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Sea is eight feet. 9 00:01:14,199 --> 00:01:17,827 [Steve] I became a hunter for the same reason that most hunters do. 10 00:01:18,244 --> 00:01:19,871 Because my father was a hunter. 11 00:01:20,747 --> 00:01:26,544 It tends to move along like that, along a line of patrilineal descent. 12 00:01:28,671 --> 00:01:30,965 My father hunted, and his father hunted. 13 00:01:31,049 --> 00:01:32,967 My maternal grandfather hunted. 14 00:01:36,221 --> 00:01:38,306 It was what we did. It's who we were. 15 00:01:41,100 --> 00:01:43,937 And it's important to mention here that I was introduced to it 16 00:01:44,020 --> 00:01:47,106 as an act of love for the natural world. 17 00:01:53,071 --> 00:01:57,242 I know now that that sounds suspicious to some people. 18 00:01:57,325 --> 00:02:00,453 This idea of hunting as a manifestation 19 00:02:00,537 --> 00:02:04,290 of love for the land and its animals. 20 00:02:04,374 --> 00:02:07,585 It might reasonably be asked, "Wouldn't it be the opposite? 21 00:02:08,294 --> 00:02:10,088 Wouldn't it be an act of aggression?" 22 00:02:12,465 --> 00:02:17,720 I'm open to discussing this with anyone who cares enough to share their thoughts. 23 00:02:20,849 --> 00:02:22,851 Though I have no illusions. 24 00:02:24,727 --> 00:02:28,064 There always be a rift between hunters and non-hunters. 25 00:02:29,816 --> 00:02:30,692 [moderator] Questions? 26 00:02:30,775 --> 00:02:33,444 Steven, don't you think these animals you've killed 27 00:02:33,528 --> 00:02:36,364 want to live as much as you or I do? 28 00:02:36,990 --> 00:02:41,035 In fact, isn't this just a rationalization for murdering innocent creatures, 29 00:02:41,161 --> 00:02:44,122 to shoot innocent animals, animals that have beating hearts, 30 00:02:44,205 --> 00:02:46,082 that run from you simply because they want to live? 31 00:02:46,166 --> 00:02:48,710 They're not armed with copper bullets or lead bullets. 32 00:02:48,877 --> 00:02:51,963 I hear... not really asking a question, you're making a point. 33 00:02:52,046 --> 00:02:53,423 But I'm going to answer it like a question. 34 00:02:55,049 --> 00:02:57,218 [Steve] I would say that if you look at the grand spectrum 35 00:02:57,302 --> 00:02:59,178 of species on this planet, 36 00:03:00,430 --> 00:03:03,224 you'll not find many that... 37 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,102 that don't prey on other kinds. 38 00:03:07,562 --> 00:03:11,816 People say generally, behaviorally, and anatomically, modern humans 39 00:03:11,900 --> 00:03:14,527 have been around for maybe 75,000 years. 40 00:03:14,819 --> 00:03:17,864 On this continent alone, people hunted for 15,000 years, 41 00:03:17,947 --> 00:03:19,991 notwithstanding the last couple hundred years. 42 00:03:21,034 --> 00:03:25,496 So, to not hunt is a fairly new experiment, in a human sense. 43 00:03:27,332 --> 00:03:29,667 To ask a wolf not to hunt anymore... 44 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:32,420 is an impossible question. 45 00:03:34,547 --> 00:03:39,385 So, if someone comes to me and says that they don't want human hunting, 46 00:03:39,469 --> 00:03:43,640 "We don't want to hunt." I'm kind of like, "Coming from what perspective?" 47 00:03:44,015 --> 00:03:45,391 That life is sacred. 48 00:03:46,267 --> 00:03:48,353 Yeah, I... I know that life is sacred. 49 00:03:49,687 --> 00:03:51,147 I admire the deer. 50 00:03:51,814 --> 00:03:55,193 But I admire the idea of deer more than the individual deer. 51 00:03:56,569 --> 00:04:01,199 And I can assure you that I know more about deer, than you ever will. 52 00:04:01,908 --> 00:04:03,785 And I've learned that through hunting for them, 53 00:04:03,868 --> 00:04:06,162 and I probably care about them in a way that's deeper 54 00:04:06,246 --> 00:04:08,081 than something you were going to experience 55 00:04:08,164 --> 00:04:10,625 from having a removed perspective on it. 56 00:04:12,126 --> 00:04:14,671 [Steve] The rift between hunters and non-hunters, 57 00:04:14,754 --> 00:04:17,257 it's been around since biblical times. 58 00:04:19,300 --> 00:04:23,763 My hope for the future would be that people who don't hunt... 59 00:04:24,597 --> 00:04:29,185 would come to recognize hunting as a positive force. 60 00:04:30,812 --> 00:04:33,731 What tricks people up, in recognizing that, 61 00:04:34,065 --> 00:04:38,027 is the contradiction that I return to all the time. 62 00:04:38,611 --> 00:04:41,030 You love animals, and you kill them. 63 00:04:52,417 --> 00:04:55,378 [Steve] The South African writer, Laurens van der Post, 64 00:04:55,461 --> 00:04:58,965 wrote that the San hunters of the Kalahari believed 65 00:04:59,048 --> 00:05:01,217 that the stars were great hunters. 66 00:05:03,803 --> 00:05:07,598 And when the stars twinkled, they were sharing hunting stories. 67 00:05:12,353 --> 00:05:13,771 Whether he was correct 68 00:05:13,855 --> 00:05:17,400 in his interpretation of their beliefs is not clear. 69 00:05:19,485 --> 00:05:22,989 But reading that forced me to consider this idea 70 00:05:23,197 --> 00:05:26,117 that there are as many hunting stories out there 71 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:28,369 as there are stars in the sky. 72 00:05:42,216 --> 00:05:44,302 Mine, being just one of them, 73 00:05:44,635 --> 00:05:47,096 that happened to begin when I was very young. 74 00:06:07,784 --> 00:06:11,287 Sometimes I do wonder about having been introduced to hunting 75 00:06:11,370 --> 00:06:15,249 much later in life and under different circumstances... 76 00:06:18,961 --> 00:06:21,464 just to see if I would think of it differently. 77 00:06:29,806 --> 00:06:33,851 Because I do admit that I inherited much of my perspective. 78 00:06:35,603 --> 00:06:37,438 I reassess it constantly, 79 00:06:37,939 --> 00:06:42,235 but the core beliefs were right there, waiting for me at birth. 80 00:06:51,828 --> 00:06:55,289 My dad hunted deer from up in the trees with his bow. 81 00:06:56,457 --> 00:06:59,335 And my two brothers and I spent a lot of time with him, 82 00:06:59,460 --> 00:07:03,131 perched up on these portable platforms that we call "tree stands." 83 00:07:05,341 --> 00:07:09,262 Watching anxiously for a deer to come and pass beneath us. 84 00:07:11,139 --> 00:07:13,724 It was like we were some family of cougars, 85 00:07:14,142 --> 00:07:15,601 waiting in ambush. 86 00:07:18,271 --> 00:07:21,691 When you turn 12, you were sent off to sit in your own tree. 87 00:07:23,568 --> 00:07:27,113 And I remember vividly the fear of the dark 88 00:07:27,196 --> 00:07:28,739 when it fell on the woods. 89 00:07:32,577 --> 00:07:36,080 And then, the relief of seeing my brother's flashlight 90 00:07:36,247 --> 00:07:38,291 coming through the trees to find me. 91 00:07:40,334 --> 00:07:44,338 Hunting was a glue that held our family together. 92 00:07:45,173 --> 00:07:47,675 And I grew up into a guy who writes about hunting, 93 00:07:47,758 --> 00:07:50,344 and talks about hunting as an occupation. 94 00:07:50,678 --> 00:07:54,682 My brothers became professional biologists and ecologists. 95 00:07:55,057 --> 00:07:59,145 Inspired by hunting to better understand the mechanisms, 96 00:07:59,479 --> 00:08:04,442 the interconnected cogs and wheels of the natural world. 97 00:08:08,279 --> 00:08:11,157 There's just not much thought in it, early on. 98 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,743 It was just kind of a foregone conclusion that, 99 00:08:13,826 --> 00:08:17,371 that was the sort of thing you would do with Dad, 100 00:08:17,455 --> 00:08:19,624 uh, when you had free time. 101 00:08:19,707 --> 00:08:21,709 We grew up hunting and... 102 00:08:21,792 --> 00:08:27,131 It was just, part of our lifestyle and we always ate off the land and... 103 00:08:28,132 --> 00:08:32,094 [Danny] If I was in a position where I had to defend myself to an anti-hunter, 104 00:08:32,178 --> 00:08:36,557 the first thing that I would do is make it clear that this is about food. 105 00:08:43,814 --> 00:08:47,860 That I, when I go on a hunting trip, I'm going out there to bring home 106 00:08:48,444 --> 00:08:51,072 every usable scrap of meat on that animal, 107 00:08:51,155 --> 00:08:54,700 cut it up and get it in my freezer, and spend the next year eating it. 108 00:08:55,660 --> 00:09:01,457 And, you know, I... I think that's one commonly held misconception, 109 00:09:01,916 --> 00:09:04,001 is that, uh, hunters are out there 110 00:09:04,085 --> 00:09:08,047 to satisfy some bloodlust that has nothing to do with food. 111 00:09:09,090 --> 00:09:11,425 The modern American hunter is a lot of different things. 112 00:09:11,509 --> 00:09:13,511 I don't think you can make a composite 113 00:09:13,594 --> 00:09:16,639 and say this is the average or the... 114 00:09:17,306 --> 00:09:19,892 the, uh... The norm. 115 00:09:21,143 --> 00:09:24,313 Uh, I think you're just doomed to failure. 116 00:09:24,397 --> 00:09:27,108 I was born in Buffalo, New York, but my dad is from Chicago. 117 00:09:27,191 --> 00:09:28,985 He was an affirmed city boy. 118 00:09:29,068 --> 00:09:31,320 As I matured as a hunter, 119 00:09:31,404 --> 00:09:33,447 I was also maturing professionally as a chef. 120 00:09:33,531 --> 00:09:36,325 I served all my time in the US military in the Navy SEAL teams. 121 00:09:36,409 --> 00:09:38,661 I work for a software development company. 122 00:09:38,744 --> 00:09:41,455 I currently serve in the United States Senate, uh... 123 00:09:41,539 --> 00:09:44,166 on behalf of the residents of New Mexico. 124 00:09:44,250 --> 00:09:47,378 I was born and raised predominantly in Adairville, Kentucky, 125 00:09:47,461 --> 00:09:49,213 uh, next to the Cumberland River. 126 00:09:49,297 --> 00:09:51,966 I guess it's not the meat, really. 127 00:09:52,049 --> 00:09:55,678 I mean, if cabbages had legs and walked around, 128 00:09:55,761 --> 00:09:56,762 I'd probably hunt them too. 129 00:09:56,846 --> 00:09:59,181 Ever since I was a kid, I wanted to be, 130 00:09:59,432 --> 00:10:01,601 you know, the guy who'd wander around in the woods, 131 00:10:01,684 --> 00:10:04,270 you know, hunting and fishing and trapping. 132 00:10:04,353 --> 00:10:07,064 I had my father up until age seven. 133 00:10:07,148 --> 00:10:08,482 He passed away. 134 00:10:08,691 --> 00:10:11,193 I then was raised by my uncles. 135 00:10:11,736 --> 00:10:17,199 A lot of my uncles were hunters, so, they taught me quite a bit about it. 136 00:10:17,283 --> 00:10:19,243 Everybody has their own thing, 137 00:10:19,327 --> 00:10:22,663 you like to do crochet and paint your house every day, 138 00:10:22,747 --> 00:10:24,123 I like to go hunting. 139 00:10:24,206 --> 00:10:26,667 The average American walking the street 140 00:10:26,834 --> 00:10:30,379 does not think highly of hunters and the way that they're characterized. 141 00:10:30,630 --> 00:10:34,175 This kind of macho image of glorifying violence. 142 00:10:34,508 --> 00:10:37,345 Hunters in general have a PR problem. 143 00:10:37,470 --> 00:10:40,097 A Tampa area man has some explaining to do 144 00:10:40,181 --> 00:10:44,894 after he says he mistook his girlfriend for a wild hog and shot her. 145 00:10:48,147 --> 00:10:50,274 [man 1] Got him. [chuckles] 146 00:10:50,608 --> 00:10:52,401 [men laughing] 147 00:11:00,951 --> 00:11:05,331 [news announcer] In Zimbabwe, Cecil The Lion was as famous as Simba. 148 00:11:05,498 --> 00:11:08,459 That is until this Minnesota dentist came along 149 00:11:08,542 --> 00:11:10,836 like some modern-day Ernest Hemingway. 150 00:11:11,087 --> 00:11:15,091 Dr. Walter Palmer paid $55,000 for a license 151 00:11:15,174 --> 00:11:19,762 to hunt in Zimbabwe, killing Cecil and skinned for a trophy. 152 00:11:20,137 --> 00:11:23,057 Some rich asshole who wants to go to Africa 153 00:11:23,140 --> 00:11:26,894 and shoot a prized lion that's got a GPS collar on it, 154 00:11:26,977 --> 00:11:29,688 that was right next door to a national refuge. 155 00:11:29,772 --> 00:11:34,610 Holy shit. It's the worst example of what hunting is. 156 00:11:35,236 --> 00:11:38,572 Yeah, I would say the most egregious method of hunting 157 00:11:38,656 --> 00:11:40,825 would be a kind of trophy hunting. 158 00:11:47,915 --> 00:11:49,625 [Doug] I do a certain amount of trophy hunting. 159 00:11:50,626 --> 00:11:51,544 Sure. 160 00:11:54,255 --> 00:11:55,464 We have a 400-acre farm. 161 00:11:55,548 --> 00:11:58,092 It's been in my family for 115 years. 162 00:11:58,384 --> 00:12:02,012 I spend a few days every year hunting on the farm. 163 00:12:02,263 --> 00:12:04,765 Part of the motivation for hunting is... 164 00:12:06,475 --> 00:12:08,185 ...what some folks are going to call a trophy. 165 00:12:09,228 --> 00:12:10,271 Mounts on the wall. 166 00:12:13,566 --> 00:12:15,276 There isn't a set of antlers 167 00:12:15,443 --> 00:12:18,779 hanging on our wall that I can't tell you the story of. 168 00:12:23,742 --> 00:12:26,787 This would have been an acorn when my great-grandfather bought the place. 169 00:12:31,208 --> 00:12:33,043 What kind of tree is this one, Steve? 170 00:12:36,088 --> 00:12:37,131 [Steve] Hickory. 171 00:12:37,298 --> 00:12:38,340 [Doug] What kind of hickory? 172 00:12:38,424 --> 00:12:39,383 [Steve] Shagbark. 173 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:41,093 [Doug] What kind of tree is this one? 174 00:12:45,014 --> 00:12:46,891 -[Steve] It's a maple. -[Doug] What kind of maple? 175 00:12:47,766 --> 00:12:50,060 -[Steve] Sugar? -[Doug] Red maple. 176 00:12:53,439 --> 00:12:54,773 [Doug] As I was growing up, 177 00:12:55,107 --> 00:12:57,568 you saw something with an antler on it, you shot it. 178 00:13:02,865 --> 00:13:05,451 A three-and-a-half or four-year-old buck, 179 00:13:05,534 --> 00:13:08,496 larger antlers... bigger deer just didn't exist. 180 00:13:09,955 --> 00:13:12,875 And what did exist was a whole bunch of does. 181 00:13:12,958 --> 00:13:14,460 Twenty or thirty to one. 182 00:13:19,256 --> 00:13:22,676 My brother Matthew was the first one who started talking about 183 00:13:22,843 --> 00:13:24,845 some of the principles of deer management. 184 00:13:28,057 --> 00:13:32,603 Matt was... much younger than the rest of us. 185 00:13:34,772 --> 00:13:37,107 Matt, of all of us, was the... 186 00:13:37,733 --> 00:13:39,944 one who was most interested in hunting. 187 00:13:41,487 --> 00:13:44,114 He got real interested in the idea of, 188 00:13:44,198 --> 00:13:46,825 "Let the small bucks go so that they can get bigger." 189 00:13:47,493 --> 00:13:49,828 Eventually it became the idea of management 190 00:13:49,912 --> 00:13:53,040 to mimic what we would expect in nature 191 00:13:53,123 --> 00:13:56,293 more of a one-to-one balance, doe to buck. 192 00:13:56,544 --> 00:13:57,920 There's a lot of good reasons for doing that. 193 00:13:58,003 --> 00:14:00,798 It was good for the deer. It was good for the freezer. 194 00:14:00,881 --> 00:14:02,675 It was good for the trophy management. 195 00:14:02,758 --> 00:14:06,845 And as we found out over time, it was also good for our forests, 196 00:14:06,971 --> 00:14:10,349 and for our crops, to try to control that herd a little bit more. 197 00:14:10,808 --> 00:14:14,436 The last year that Matthew hunted, he and I had a real successful hunt. 198 00:14:14,645 --> 00:14:17,565 Biggest buck I'd seen up to that point jumped up, 199 00:14:18,399 --> 00:14:20,568 in a field across the road from the buildings, 200 00:14:20,693 --> 00:14:22,111 I was able to shoot the deer. 201 00:14:22,695 --> 00:14:24,363 Biggest buck I'd shot up to that time. 202 00:14:25,531 --> 00:14:29,785 And my dad says, "Boy, that's a really good buck, Doug, congratulations." 203 00:14:32,079 --> 00:14:36,000 And Matt says, "Yeah, but that had been a nice buck next year." 204 00:14:38,961 --> 00:14:42,464 [Doug] Matthew was a man of few words, unlike the rest of the family. 205 00:14:42,673 --> 00:14:45,009 And when he said that, it stuck in my head. 206 00:14:45,217 --> 00:14:48,345 And, when he died a couple months later, 207 00:14:48,429 --> 00:14:50,222 it took on even more meaning. 208 00:14:52,641 --> 00:14:54,393 Got a phone call from my father, 209 00:14:54,810 --> 00:14:57,104 telling me that Matt had been in a terrible accident, 210 00:14:57,187 --> 00:15:01,150 and... didn't expect him to live. 211 00:15:05,946 --> 00:15:07,323 We as a family, 212 00:15:07,823 --> 00:15:12,494 decided we were going to figure out a management strategy for the farm, 213 00:15:12,912 --> 00:15:14,705 to honor his legacy 214 00:15:15,289 --> 00:15:17,082 and our family's legacy. 215 00:15:17,625 --> 00:15:21,253 And in those years we just, through our NBNY, 216 00:15:21,337 --> 00:15:23,255 "Nice Buck Next Year" idea, 217 00:15:23,505 --> 00:15:25,174 we kept getting bigger and bigger deer. 218 00:15:28,719 --> 00:15:30,429 That's the tree that we came to see. 219 00:15:32,890 --> 00:15:35,726 It has since died, seven years ago, 220 00:15:35,809 --> 00:15:39,396 from Dutch Elm Disease, that they all eventually succumb to. 221 00:15:40,773 --> 00:15:43,776 Ten years ago, the biggest deer that's ever been shot on this farm 222 00:15:43,859 --> 00:15:46,236 and really the biggest deer that's ever been seen on this farm 223 00:15:46,403 --> 00:15:47,613 was shot from here. 224 00:15:49,114 --> 00:15:50,824 We named that deer after I killed it. 225 00:15:51,867 --> 00:15:55,287 Uh, we called it The Standard By Which All Others Will Be Judged. 226 00:15:57,623 --> 00:15:59,166 When I saw this deer, 227 00:16:00,376 --> 00:16:02,503 it was about 12 years after Matthew died. 228 00:16:03,629 --> 00:16:05,589 I'm in the stand for ten, twelve minutes. 229 00:16:06,340 --> 00:16:10,761 And I hear this... [grunts] Down in the, on the edge of the swamp. 230 00:16:11,887 --> 00:16:13,931 Biggest deer I ever saw. That was the deer. 231 00:16:14,014 --> 00:16:17,142 I knew instantly when I saw it that that was the deer. 232 00:16:20,354 --> 00:16:24,441 He walks up within about 25 or 30 yards of that stand 233 00:16:25,275 --> 00:16:28,153 and I put the crosshairs on his chest and pulled the trigger. 234 00:16:28,362 --> 00:16:31,573 It was instantly dead, it absorbed all the energy of that bullet. 235 00:16:35,494 --> 00:16:39,498 After I shot it, it was just this moment of... 236 00:16:40,290 --> 00:16:44,211 thinking about my brother, his ideas about, "Let's manage." 237 00:16:45,379 --> 00:16:47,464 I was overwhelmed by it, quite honestly. 238 00:16:51,260 --> 00:16:52,803 That's the story of The Standard. 239 00:16:56,265 --> 00:16:59,393 You want to call it a trophy, I call it remembrance of a hunt. 240 00:17:16,452 --> 00:17:18,537 [wind howling] 241 00:17:24,126 --> 00:17:26,628 [Steve] In the earliest years of the 20th century, 242 00:17:26,712 --> 00:17:29,339 the Arctic explorer, Vilhjalmur Stefansson, 243 00:17:29,423 --> 00:17:32,968 was still out making initial contacts with groups of Inuit hunters 244 00:17:33,052 --> 00:17:34,845 in the Canadian high Arctic. 245 00:17:36,972 --> 00:17:41,060 And he describes these hunters' practice of bringing home 246 00:17:41,143 --> 00:17:46,482 the heads of bears, in order to place their head in their home or lodge 247 00:17:46,565 --> 00:17:50,152 so that the bear would be able to observe the hunter and his family. 248 00:17:51,945 --> 00:17:56,033 The thinking being that the bear would, in some mystical afterlife, 249 00:17:56,116 --> 00:18:00,120 explain to other bears, that if you're going to get killed by someone, 250 00:18:00,204 --> 00:18:02,372 this guy is a good choice. 251 00:18:02,539 --> 00:18:05,000 Because he's an honorable man. 252 00:18:07,711 --> 00:18:11,256 Now, I decorate my home with all kinds of hides and skulls 253 00:18:11,340 --> 00:18:13,759 from the animals that I've hunted and eaten. 254 00:18:16,595 --> 00:18:19,765 And it does occur to me at times to ask, 255 00:18:20,808 --> 00:18:25,020 "If they are looking out on me, what do they see?" 256 00:18:37,616 --> 00:18:40,786 At the end of the 19th century, there is a pretty influential historian 257 00:18:40,869 --> 00:18:42,913 by the name of Frederick Jackson Turner. 258 00:18:42,996 --> 00:18:47,626 Um, and he famously decrees that, "The frontier is closed." 259 00:18:49,419 --> 00:18:52,506 In essence, what he meant was that white settlement 260 00:18:52,965 --> 00:18:55,217 had expanded across the continent. 261 00:18:55,384 --> 00:18:59,346 And he was concerned about what this might hold, 262 00:18:59,429 --> 00:19:02,808 as were many others, for the future of the country. 263 00:19:03,892 --> 00:19:08,355 Many Americans at the turn of the century believed that America's unique character 264 00:19:08,438 --> 00:19:11,233 stemmed from the process of frontiering, 265 00:19:11,316 --> 00:19:14,278 stemmed from engagement with wilderness 266 00:19:14,361 --> 00:19:18,031 and fighting against indigenous peoples, 267 00:19:18,115 --> 00:19:20,492 and sort of, the conquest of the continent. 268 00:19:23,996 --> 00:19:25,664 Among a certain subset, 269 00:19:26,039 --> 00:19:27,708 particularly urban men, 270 00:19:28,250 --> 00:19:32,045 hunting embodied a certain rugged individualism 271 00:19:32,129 --> 00:19:34,464 that they associate with the national character. 272 00:19:36,091 --> 00:19:38,385 There have also always been subsistence hunters, 273 00:19:38,468 --> 00:19:42,389 who hunted for utilitarian reasons, out of necessity. 274 00:19:43,223 --> 00:19:45,684 But the emergence of the sport hunter 275 00:19:45,767 --> 00:19:49,271 as an iconic American figure is something new. 276 00:19:56,111 --> 00:19:58,614 [male reporter] The victory flash electrified Times Square, 277 00:19:58,697 --> 00:19:59,948 keyed to the bursting point 278 00:20:00,032 --> 00:20:02,910 as the magic word of complete surrender came through. 279 00:20:03,869 --> 00:20:05,746 [Randall] The end of World War II 280 00:20:06,246 --> 00:20:09,082 is a hugely significant moment in the history of hunting. 281 00:20:11,418 --> 00:20:16,173 As millions of American men are returning home from tours of duty, 282 00:20:17,132 --> 00:20:20,302 sport hunting experiences a surge in popularity. 283 00:20:23,180 --> 00:20:25,599 They take to the field in record numbers, 284 00:20:25,724 --> 00:20:27,893 many of them for the first time in their lives. 285 00:20:30,229 --> 00:20:32,814 As the editor of Outdoor Life put it, 286 00:20:34,191 --> 00:20:38,070 "You can't expose millions of young men to the joys of living outdoors 287 00:20:38,153 --> 00:20:41,949 and using firearms, and not make hunters out of them." 288 00:20:44,451 --> 00:20:47,579 The number of hunters skyrockets in the 1940s 289 00:20:47,663 --> 00:20:50,082 from about eight million to 13 million. 290 00:20:50,874 --> 00:20:54,253 And that means that roughly one in four American men... 291 00:20:55,712 --> 00:20:56,713 were hunters. 292 00:21:21,947 --> 00:21:25,158 [Steve] One of many things I love about hunting 293 00:21:25,242 --> 00:21:29,871 is that it pushes me to go to places I would otherwise have no business going. 294 00:21:31,581 --> 00:21:34,584 It melds wanderlust and pragmatism. 295 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:40,924 I respect a mountaineer who goes up a mountain 296 00:21:41,008 --> 00:21:43,093 and comes down with nothing tangible, 297 00:21:45,137 --> 00:21:46,888 but I'm drawn to the kind of climbing 298 00:21:46,972 --> 00:21:50,142 that has you coming back down with a load of meat on your shoulders. 299 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:58,734 In anthropology, there is an idea that I was both of those things equally. 300 00:21:58,859 --> 00:22:01,611 A curiosity about what's over the next hill, 301 00:22:01,903 --> 00:22:03,864 and a desire to eat it... 302 00:22:04,781 --> 00:22:09,453 that accounts for our species' stunningly rapid colonization of the world. 303 00:22:12,873 --> 00:22:17,294 The first Americans to pass through Beringia and enter the Western Hemisphere 304 00:22:17,377 --> 00:22:21,173 started hunting on this continent some 20,000 years ago. 305 00:22:21,340 --> 00:22:25,677 Euro-Americans have been hunting it for 500 years. 306 00:22:27,763 --> 00:22:30,599 I think of those earliest hunters often. 307 00:22:31,224 --> 00:22:36,938 Would they be surprised that the subject of ethics has become so intertwined 308 00:22:37,022 --> 00:22:39,733 with all of our conversations around hunting. 309 00:22:40,942 --> 00:22:44,738 How could such an ancient, ancestral practice be governed 310 00:22:44,821 --> 00:22:48,825 by such contemporary notions about morality and behavior? 311 00:22:53,663 --> 00:22:55,999 It's not a small thing to take an animal's life. 312 00:22:56,500 --> 00:22:58,919 It's very intense. It's very emotional. 313 00:22:59,419 --> 00:23:01,797 We're hunting sentient beings, 314 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,132 who suffer and who are highly complex, 315 00:23:04,216 --> 00:23:05,759 who have moral status. 316 00:23:05,842 --> 00:23:09,012 There's something that we have to consider now that we're more enlightened, 317 00:23:09,471 --> 00:23:12,891 the burden of morality, the burden of being ethical. 318 00:23:19,106 --> 00:23:20,857 [Ron] And when I first see 319 00:23:22,025 --> 00:23:23,902 the deer that I'm going to shoot, 320 00:23:25,112 --> 00:23:28,281 my concentration is on getting 321 00:23:28,865 --> 00:23:32,953 to where I'm going to have a steady, clear, concise shot, 322 00:23:33,495 --> 00:23:35,664 so that that animal does not suffer. 323 00:23:36,206 --> 00:23:38,250 And that's all that's going through my mind. 324 00:23:40,377 --> 00:23:41,878 [Joe] It might not work out, 325 00:23:42,712 --> 00:23:45,674 you might not see the animal, you might not get close enough, 326 00:23:45,757 --> 00:23:48,176 you might get winded. You might even miss. 327 00:23:48,260 --> 00:23:53,431 But, did you do your best to make sure that none of those things happened? 328 00:23:53,515 --> 00:23:55,517 And if you don't, you feel terrible. 329 00:23:58,979 --> 00:24:02,107 [Jones] The fact that hunters themselves acknowledge 330 00:24:02,858 --> 00:24:05,402 that there should be a sportsmanlike way 331 00:24:05,694 --> 00:24:08,071 to dispatch, say a deer, 332 00:24:08,947 --> 00:24:11,491 that speaks to the fact that they believe 333 00:24:11,575 --> 00:24:17,247 that there is a moral and ethical aspect dimension to that act. 334 00:24:21,334 --> 00:24:26,423 Animal ethics, in a nutshell, is to have more people recognize 335 00:24:26,590 --> 00:24:29,676 that you're dealing with moral beings, not just objects. 336 00:24:31,344 --> 00:24:33,972 Human beings were always thought to be... 337 00:24:34,931 --> 00:24:38,059 superior, not only intellectually 338 00:24:38,143 --> 00:24:41,354 and physiologically in certain ways, but morally. 339 00:24:41,938 --> 00:24:44,858 This is a view known as "human exceptionalism." 340 00:24:47,360 --> 00:24:50,322 And that claim starts to be challenged. 341 00:24:51,531 --> 00:24:56,536 The question in animal ethics, it's, what makes all human beings 342 00:24:56,620 --> 00:25:00,207 morally superior to every animal on the planet? 343 00:25:00,665 --> 00:25:04,461 Why is it this way, and should it be that way? 344 00:25:05,378 --> 00:25:07,339 And that's a tough question to answer. 345 00:25:11,259 --> 00:25:13,595 [Doug] The actual killing of an animal, 346 00:25:15,180 --> 00:25:19,392 the finality of it is... hard to describe. 347 00:25:20,769 --> 00:25:22,729 But you've done something that you can't undo. 348 00:25:27,317 --> 00:25:31,404 [Steve] What does go on between a hunter and his prey? 349 00:25:33,531 --> 00:25:35,825 [imitating deer call] 350 00:25:40,038 --> 00:25:44,584 The biologist E. O. Wilson popularized the term "biophilia." 351 00:25:46,628 --> 00:25:50,382 The idea that humans have an innate desire to connect with nature 352 00:25:50,465 --> 00:25:51,925 and other forms of life. 353 00:25:56,930 --> 00:25:59,933 Hunting can bring about an extreme form of that, 354 00:26:00,809 --> 00:26:02,936 let's say "bio obsession," 355 00:26:04,187 --> 00:26:08,066 where the continued study and pursuit of animals brings about in the hunter 356 00:26:08,149 --> 00:26:09,943 feelings of deep admiration, 357 00:26:11,611 --> 00:26:13,154 a desire to emulate, 358 00:26:13,238 --> 00:26:17,784 and, yeah, something akin to love for the animals that they hunt. 359 00:26:21,204 --> 00:26:24,457 When else do you sit down with your... 360 00:26:25,750 --> 00:26:28,503 pair of binoculars glued to your face and just look 361 00:26:28,586 --> 00:26:32,382 at the landscape, and look at animals for hours at a time? 362 00:26:32,465 --> 00:26:35,760 It kind of forces you to learn so much. I've never learned so much 363 00:26:35,844 --> 00:26:40,598 about a single species of animal as I did when I started hunting white-tail. 364 00:26:40,682 --> 00:26:43,018 Judging bears, you know what to look for, 365 00:26:43,101 --> 00:26:46,479 the size of their head, you know, the size of their ears compared to their body. 366 00:26:46,980 --> 00:26:50,608 Sources of food that I've seen the squirrels eat, 367 00:26:50,692 --> 00:26:55,196 uh, of course, we've got the hickory nuts in our areas, 368 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,240 uh, all the acorns. 369 00:26:57,449 --> 00:26:59,284 If you're going to become a successful hunter, 370 00:26:59,367 --> 00:27:01,411 you have to learn everything about that animal. 371 00:27:01,536 --> 00:27:05,040 Let's call it the psychology of a... a deer. 372 00:27:05,332 --> 00:27:07,792 Beech trees, you know, they love hitting those things. 373 00:27:07,876 --> 00:27:09,711 Watching animals interact with each other, 374 00:27:09,794 --> 00:27:11,463 watching animals interact with the landscape. 375 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,716 Dogwood berries. They like eating those. 376 00:27:14,883 --> 00:27:18,595 You understand them, then you understand where they're gonna be at certain times. 377 00:27:18,887 --> 00:27:21,056 I've never seen anything eat a gumball. 378 00:27:21,389 --> 00:27:24,809 This deer call here... 379 00:27:26,227 --> 00:27:27,812 used to be my favorite one. 380 00:27:28,021 --> 00:27:31,358 And it would call in bucks... 381 00:27:32,484 --> 00:27:34,652 uh, at a pretty good rate. 382 00:27:34,736 --> 00:27:36,863 I mean, they'll come charging in, 383 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,199 usually with a full erection. 384 00:27:39,741 --> 00:27:42,243 And, uh, they're there for one thing. 385 00:27:44,329 --> 00:27:46,289 [deer call whistling] 386 00:27:47,499 --> 00:27:50,502 [imitating deer scream] 387 00:27:57,634 --> 00:28:00,220 [imitating deer grunts] 388 00:28:03,681 --> 00:28:05,308 [deer call whistling] 389 00:28:05,433 --> 00:28:06,476 Nope, it's not there. 390 00:28:06,976 --> 00:28:08,895 [imitating deer grunt] 391 00:28:12,399 --> 00:28:14,859 [high-pitched deer call] 392 00:28:14,943 --> 00:28:16,444 [dog barks] 393 00:28:16,778 --> 00:28:21,282 That one does it, but that there is a little bit too high-pitched one. 394 00:28:29,290 --> 00:28:31,960 [Rorke Denver] That interplay between loving the game 395 00:28:32,043 --> 00:28:34,212 you're pursuing, and killing the game you're pursuing 396 00:28:34,295 --> 00:28:37,882 and taking that life, I feel lucky to wrestle with those issues. 397 00:28:38,550 --> 00:28:41,177 I mean, I think, uh, there isn't a single animal 398 00:28:41,302 --> 00:28:44,055 I'm gonna go after that I don't have tremendous respect and love for 399 00:28:44,139 --> 00:28:48,101 and really enjoy looking at as much as I want to go hunt. 400 00:28:49,227 --> 00:28:52,564 It's, uh... I think it is a connection to the natural world 401 00:28:52,647 --> 00:28:54,149 that very few people get. 402 00:28:59,446 --> 00:29:02,657 I mean, I actually think being a hunter falls much more in line 403 00:29:02,741 --> 00:29:04,743 with the way we developed, 404 00:29:05,285 --> 00:29:07,912 you know, genetically, culturally, 405 00:29:07,996 --> 00:29:09,080 than not being a hunter. 406 00:29:09,164 --> 00:29:12,417 I mean, if our forefathers weren't probably, you know, whacking a critter 407 00:29:12,500 --> 00:29:15,128 with a rock and a stone and figured out a way to cook it and eat it, 408 00:29:15,211 --> 00:29:16,713 we're probably not sitting here. 409 00:29:16,796 --> 00:29:23,303 So I... I think there's a very primal part of hunting that seems 100% natural to me. 410 00:29:25,430 --> 00:29:28,099 [Jones] Some people would say, "Well, if it's natural, 411 00:29:28,933 --> 00:29:31,603 that's a justification enough that we should do it." 412 00:29:31,686 --> 00:29:34,022 So the "should" just comes from the fact that it's natural. 413 00:29:34,314 --> 00:29:37,192 Look, I'm a vegan, but I can't say that there aren't times 414 00:29:37,275 --> 00:29:39,611 when I think bacon smells really good, 415 00:29:39,694 --> 00:29:42,447 and I smell it, I'm like, "Damn, I could go for some of that bacon." 416 00:29:42,530 --> 00:29:46,618 Now, I'm denying myself. You could say, "You're not doing what's natural." 417 00:29:46,701 --> 00:29:49,954 But I could say, I know I'm not doing what's "natural," 418 00:29:50,038 --> 00:29:52,499 but that's because I'm a moral being, and that's what moral beings do. 419 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,044 We don't always follow through on our instincts. 420 00:29:56,711 --> 00:29:58,046 That's what makes you moral. 421 00:30:06,387 --> 00:30:09,766 [Steve] Could it be true that our canine teeth 422 00:30:09,849 --> 00:30:13,978 and our forward-facing predator eyes are really just relics? 423 00:30:14,771 --> 00:30:16,523 Just vestigial traits? 424 00:30:17,148 --> 00:30:19,526 Like our wisdom teeth and tail bones. 425 00:30:20,860 --> 00:30:24,280 If so, the transition feels incomplete. 426 00:30:24,364 --> 00:30:27,575 At least inside of me, and inside of many others. 427 00:30:28,034 --> 00:30:32,121 There's a psychological piece to being in the woods, pursuing my food. 428 00:30:33,122 --> 00:30:36,626 Civilization does us the favor of removing us 429 00:30:36,709 --> 00:30:40,380 from so many unpleasant and unsightly processes. 430 00:30:40,463 --> 00:30:42,632 All of the tasks of life. 431 00:30:43,508 --> 00:30:46,135 It allows us to lead cleaner, more sterile, 432 00:30:46,219 --> 00:30:48,388 more sedentary lives of our choosing. 433 00:30:48,721 --> 00:30:53,309 But we do carry the physical specialized tools of hunters. 434 00:30:53,935 --> 00:30:55,353 We're built for it. 435 00:30:55,603 --> 00:30:58,231 That might make you uncomfortable to think about, 436 00:30:58,314 --> 00:31:00,483 but it warrants being reckoned with. 437 00:31:08,825 --> 00:31:11,286 [Matt] Hunting colors everything I am. 438 00:31:13,204 --> 00:31:17,333 I wouldn't live in the middle of nowhere 439 00:31:17,417 --> 00:31:21,796 with a corgi and pack lamas if I... 440 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:22,964 If I didn't hunt. 441 00:31:26,634 --> 00:31:27,844 [bleats] 442 00:31:30,054 --> 00:31:33,266 I started getting some sciatic nerve pain in my left leg. 443 00:31:34,350 --> 00:31:38,521 When I found out that the sciatic nerve pain was an extension of back problems, 444 00:31:38,605 --> 00:31:42,984 I knew immediately that it was from carrying heavy packs of meat. 445 00:31:46,696 --> 00:31:47,989 So I just knew then that, 446 00:31:48,406 --> 00:31:50,783 if I was gonna keep doing the thing 447 00:31:50,867 --> 00:31:54,037 that I loved for decades to come, 448 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,372 I was going to have to do something differently. 449 00:31:56,664 --> 00:31:59,334 So I started getting pack llamas. 450 00:32:00,793 --> 00:32:03,171 So I could keep hunting, and they would carry my stuff. 451 00:32:06,591 --> 00:32:09,761 Trying to desensitize her head... His head a little bit. 452 00:32:09,886 --> 00:32:11,679 Both these guys' heads a little bit. 453 00:32:13,723 --> 00:32:16,100 Good boy. Good boy. 454 00:32:17,352 --> 00:32:21,356 So with this training, desensitization is a big part of it. 455 00:32:22,690 --> 00:32:26,945 The way you're trying to get them to do what you want 456 00:32:27,820 --> 00:32:31,658 is every time they do what you want... 457 00:32:31,741 --> 00:32:34,494 Like he's standing still right now, he's not running away, 458 00:32:34,577 --> 00:32:38,498 which, the first few times I did this, that would make him run away. 459 00:32:38,581 --> 00:32:40,249 They do not like to have their feet handled. 460 00:32:40,708 --> 00:32:43,044 So then, you reward them by walking away. 461 00:32:44,045 --> 00:32:45,755 You take the pressure off of them. 462 00:32:55,223 --> 00:32:59,477 Like this, this is just from a few training sessions that I can do this. 463 00:33:00,603 --> 00:33:02,647 They're very protective of their feet. 464 00:33:09,570 --> 00:33:12,907 [chuckles] Go on, buddy. Give him a kick on the butt. 465 00:33:13,866 --> 00:33:15,201 God, these are nothing like your old ones. 466 00:33:15,284 --> 00:33:17,704 Oh, this guy's way better than the old ones. 467 00:33:17,787 --> 00:33:18,913 -[Steve] Oh, is he? -Not Haigee, 468 00:33:18,997 --> 00:33:20,456 but he's way better than Timee. 469 00:33:20,915 --> 00:33:24,043 It's just what... Steve, you wouldn't believe this guy on the trail. 470 00:33:24,127 --> 00:33:26,921 He's fantastic, it's just around the barnyard. 471 00:33:35,471 --> 00:33:40,268 I... I have a very deep love 472 00:33:40,351 --> 00:33:41,686 for the places that I hunt, 473 00:33:41,769 --> 00:33:44,981 and... it sometimes gets mixed up with fear. 474 00:33:45,064 --> 00:33:46,816 I mean, some of these places are way back in there, 475 00:33:46,899 --> 00:33:48,693 and they're kind of spooky! 476 00:33:51,821 --> 00:33:55,158 I spend a lot of my bow-hunting time alone, 477 00:33:55,658 --> 00:33:58,536 which is often not fun. 478 00:33:59,454 --> 00:34:01,873 It can be boring and grueling. 479 00:34:02,874 --> 00:34:06,210 But it requires a level of dedication. 480 00:34:06,919 --> 00:34:09,297 For me, personally, when I get an elk with my bow, 481 00:34:09,380 --> 00:34:11,174 that's a major accomplishment, 482 00:34:11,549 --> 00:34:14,886 and I'm going to probably not remember 483 00:34:14,969 --> 00:34:17,722 the squirrels I shot two years from now, 484 00:34:17,805 --> 00:34:21,350 but I'll remember every single elk I've ever gotten with my bow. 485 00:34:21,851 --> 00:34:24,270 There's been many hunts where I've been on, 486 00:34:24,437 --> 00:34:26,898 where I've fought the desire... 487 00:34:28,149 --> 00:34:31,444 to go home every hour, 488 00:34:31,527 --> 00:34:33,488 every day, for days, 489 00:34:33,571 --> 00:34:37,075 and then... filled my tag. 490 00:34:37,700 --> 00:34:39,202 In a way, I feel like... 491 00:34:41,162 --> 00:34:44,040 I'm stuck being a hunter. I don't have any choice. 492 00:34:44,123 --> 00:34:45,708 I can't... I can't help it. 493 00:34:45,792 --> 00:34:48,878 I have to, uh, hunt, 494 00:34:48,961 --> 00:34:50,797 that's just what I do. That's what my... 495 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,590 That's what preoccupies my thoughts, 496 00:34:52,673 --> 00:34:54,926 that's what I-- How I spend my spare time. 497 00:34:57,011 --> 00:34:59,889 I'd be powerless to try to make it go away. 498 00:35:06,729 --> 00:35:09,607 If somebody took issue with me hunting, 499 00:35:09,982 --> 00:35:12,401 my first question to them would be, 500 00:35:12,735 --> 00:35:15,613 "Do you eat meat?" 501 00:35:16,739 --> 00:35:17,698 Um... 502 00:35:18,157 --> 00:35:20,576 Now, let's say that this is, a person that 503 00:35:20,660 --> 00:35:24,038 doesn't like the fact that I hunt, but they're vegetarian or vegan. 504 00:35:25,915 --> 00:35:29,460 I don't know what to say to them. I mean... they might have a point. 505 00:35:30,002 --> 00:35:33,339 I do not think that vegans, including myself, 506 00:35:33,464 --> 00:35:36,342 are outside the web of killing and suffering. 507 00:35:36,634 --> 00:35:39,345 I do not think that I'm morally superior because I'm a vegan. 508 00:35:39,595 --> 00:35:42,723 If I eat, you know, a carrot, 509 00:35:42,807 --> 00:35:44,934 there's probably some sentient field animal 510 00:35:45,017 --> 00:35:47,353 that died in the tilling of the soil, so... 511 00:35:47,436 --> 00:35:51,649 I have no illusions about vegans or vegetarians 512 00:35:51,732 --> 00:35:53,818 being morally pure or morally superior. 513 00:35:53,901 --> 00:35:56,362 That's not my brand of veganism. I want that clear. 514 00:35:56,445 --> 00:35:59,574 What I am saying is that, um, 515 00:35:59,991 --> 00:36:03,786 there seems to be plenty of ways to deeply, and spiritually, 516 00:36:03,870 --> 00:36:06,831 if you will, commune with nature that don't involve... 517 00:36:07,832 --> 00:36:10,793 the killing of a complex sentient being. 518 00:36:22,471 --> 00:36:25,766 [Steve] When I was young, I first started hearing the word, like "environmentalist." 519 00:36:25,850 --> 00:36:27,143 I was kind of intimidated by it, 520 00:36:27,226 --> 00:36:29,103 'cause I just thought it automatically meant somehow 521 00:36:29,187 --> 00:36:33,316 that you were against the things that I liked, which is to hunt, fish, and trap. 522 00:36:36,027 --> 00:36:39,280 Then later I learned that, in the hunting world 523 00:36:39,363 --> 00:36:41,199 or in the hunting community, we have our own word for it, 524 00:36:41,282 --> 00:36:42,700 we just call it "conservationism." 525 00:36:42,825 --> 00:36:45,828 Like, a conservationist is, is an environmentalist with a gun. 526 00:36:50,416 --> 00:36:55,546 The conservation ethic came to me out of a very selfish desire... 527 00:36:56,631 --> 00:36:59,258 to not lose the things that mattered a lot to me. 528 00:37:00,426 --> 00:37:02,929 So I'm like, "So what would I need to do, 529 00:37:03,262 --> 00:37:06,307 what is the best step to protect this landscape where I like to hunt, 530 00:37:06,599 --> 00:37:08,226 to protect my hunting grounds, 531 00:37:08,351 --> 00:37:10,144 so that I can continue to enjoy it?" 532 00:37:11,854 --> 00:37:13,481 That was the first step for me. 533 00:37:13,564 --> 00:37:16,943 The second step was to all of a sudden be like, "Okay, I like this spot, 534 00:37:17,026 --> 00:37:20,404 and I might not ever go to that one over there, 535 00:37:20,488 --> 00:37:24,075 but I'm just going to extend my desire 536 00:37:24,158 --> 00:37:25,660 to protect this place, and go like, 537 00:37:25,743 --> 00:37:28,746 'Okay, I like that one in the distance too,' you know. 538 00:37:28,829 --> 00:37:32,083 And maybe I like something in South America as well." 539 00:37:32,333 --> 00:37:34,877 And I think I just very gradually, sort of, 540 00:37:34,961 --> 00:37:37,463 began to have a conservation ethic 541 00:37:37,546 --> 00:37:40,758 that stands outside of selfishness. 542 00:37:42,426 --> 00:37:46,264 But it took me a long, long time to shed that idea, 543 00:37:46,639 --> 00:37:49,850 that you can just take and take with no regard to what's down the road. 544 00:38:13,457 --> 00:38:16,627 [Robert Abernathy] If it's a perfect morning, it is completely dead calm. 545 00:38:17,295 --> 00:38:18,838 And you get to your listening spot. 546 00:38:20,047 --> 00:38:21,382 [birds twittering] 547 00:38:21,674 --> 00:38:23,759 Generally, the first thing you hear is a cardinal, 548 00:38:23,843 --> 00:38:26,762 and then the tufted titmice are gonna start calling. 549 00:38:26,846 --> 00:38:28,764 And then all the other birds join in. 550 00:38:30,141 --> 00:38:32,143 And when the first crow calls, 551 00:38:32,226 --> 00:38:36,105 and if all goes according to plan, it'd be answered by a gobbler. 552 00:38:36,188 --> 00:38:37,606 [gobbling] 553 00:38:38,357 --> 00:38:42,403 And if a turkey sees movement, and he'll look at it, 554 00:38:42,945 --> 00:38:45,948 and he'll see movement a second time and he's gone. 555 00:38:46,157 --> 00:38:50,328 As soon as it came out of that egg, every movement that it experienced, 556 00:38:50,953 --> 00:38:55,082 it... it interpreted it as something trying to kill it and eat it. 557 00:38:56,751 --> 00:39:00,546 If you're good enough to kill a bird every three or four or five hunts, 558 00:39:01,380 --> 00:39:02,798 you're a pretty good turkey hunter. 559 00:39:13,351 --> 00:39:15,644 We can't forget that we're not turkeys. 560 00:39:15,728 --> 00:39:19,357 We are mammals, so when we're looking at a turkey, 561 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,317 we're looking at him with mammal eyes. 562 00:39:21,567 --> 00:39:24,403 When a turkey is looking at a turkey or a turkey is looking at a decoy, 563 00:39:24,487 --> 00:39:27,948 a turkey is looking with bird eyes, with avian eyes. 564 00:39:29,492 --> 00:39:32,453 My son came up with the idea, "Well, you know, why don't you 565 00:39:32,536 --> 00:39:35,748 just glue each feather on individually?" 566 00:39:36,665 --> 00:39:38,459 "Well, that'll take too long, that's crazy." 567 00:39:38,542 --> 00:39:39,627 Well, then he did it. 568 00:39:40,419 --> 00:39:43,339 And it doesn't... It's like everything, it doesn't work every time. 569 00:39:43,839 --> 00:39:45,341 But it... it works enough. 570 00:39:48,469 --> 00:39:50,304 I did not grow up hunting turkeys. 571 00:39:50,388 --> 00:39:54,392 We had no turkeys anywhere around and I remember the first turkey I saw, 572 00:39:54,475 --> 00:39:56,143 which I was in high school. 573 00:39:56,268 --> 00:39:58,729 And it was... It was crazy, I mean, I couldn't believe it. 574 00:39:58,813 --> 00:40:00,981 I could not believe I had seen a turkey. 575 00:40:01,148 --> 00:40:03,526 By the time I was born, in the mid-'50s, 576 00:40:03,609 --> 00:40:07,363 North Carolina only had turkeys in the most remote parts. 577 00:40:09,031 --> 00:40:12,660 The turkey population started crashing in the 1800s 578 00:40:12,743 --> 00:40:14,954 as soon as the settlements started. I mean, 579 00:40:15,162 --> 00:40:17,331 these were a large bird that were good to eat, 580 00:40:17,415 --> 00:40:18,624 and people killed them and ate 'em, 581 00:40:18,707 --> 00:40:20,501 and they killed them and sold 'em to the market. 582 00:40:20,584 --> 00:40:23,379 And they disappeared from most of the United States. 583 00:40:23,504 --> 00:40:25,506 But it's not that way anymore. 584 00:40:26,340 --> 00:40:29,301 Historically in the '20s, and '30s, and '40s, 585 00:40:29,385 --> 00:40:33,722 we believed that you could take a wild turkey, um, hen, 586 00:40:33,806 --> 00:40:36,475 and take the eggs, raise them up into young turkeys 587 00:40:36,559 --> 00:40:37,893 and go out and turn them to the woods. 588 00:40:37,977 --> 00:40:39,854 And that, well, that went on for decades. 589 00:40:39,937 --> 00:40:42,940 It was a... It was a massive failure and just did not work. 590 00:40:43,023 --> 00:40:45,818 And the restoration really didn't get started 591 00:40:45,901 --> 00:40:48,654 until we figured out how to trap them and how to move them. 592 00:40:48,863 --> 00:40:52,032 We started using rocket nets to capture the birds. 593 00:40:52,116 --> 00:40:54,201 And it was hunters that funded the whole thing. 594 00:40:56,245 --> 00:40:58,956 It was an army of biologists 595 00:40:59,039 --> 00:41:01,709 and technicians, and hunters all over this country 596 00:41:01,792 --> 00:41:03,544 that contributed the money and trapped the birds, 597 00:41:03,627 --> 00:41:06,839 and did that habitat management that allowed the birds to come back. 598 00:41:08,674 --> 00:41:12,428 Now wild turkeys are found in all 49 states... 599 00:41:12,511 --> 00:41:13,637 they're not in Alaska, 600 00:41:14,430 --> 00:41:18,392 and throughout southern Canada and down into Mexico. 601 00:41:21,312 --> 00:41:23,856 You know, the question is, did I do the restoration 602 00:41:23,939 --> 00:41:27,151 in order to be able to hunt turkeys all over the country? 603 00:41:27,234 --> 00:41:29,236 And maybe a part of me did. 604 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,239 But we get that question a lot, 605 00:41:32,323 --> 00:41:36,118 uh, "Well, you only wanted to turn those turkeys loose so you can shoot them." 606 00:41:36,577 --> 00:41:40,789 And it's like, that doesn't even come close 607 00:41:40,873 --> 00:41:43,959 to the experiences and the people I've met, 608 00:41:44,043 --> 00:41:48,005 and the guys that might raise money 609 00:41:48,088 --> 00:41:50,382 and work for years 610 00:41:50,799 --> 00:41:54,053 to try to get a... a wild turkey, 611 00:41:54,553 --> 00:41:58,516 or elk, or white-tail deer, or mule deer, or a pronghorn... 612 00:41:58,599 --> 00:42:00,226 restored to a habitat. 613 00:42:00,643 --> 00:42:04,271 I just don't see that level of commitment 614 00:42:04,355 --> 00:42:09,151 with any other wide group of people, 615 00:42:09,735 --> 00:42:11,320 um, other than hunters. 616 00:42:13,948 --> 00:42:15,658 [birds chirping] 617 00:42:26,460 --> 00:42:30,589 [Jim] These wild animals have a social and cultural value 618 00:42:30,756 --> 00:42:32,466 because of what they represent. 619 00:42:32,967 --> 00:42:37,805 They represent a social, cultural commitment to their existence, 620 00:42:38,097 --> 00:42:42,726 and the fact that we have worked so that they can coexist 621 00:42:42,810 --> 00:42:45,104 with a civilized society... 622 00:42:45,437 --> 00:42:49,358 and still remain wild. And that has given them a value. 623 00:42:54,321 --> 00:42:56,865 The European method of wildlife management 624 00:42:56,949 --> 00:42:59,952 attached wildlife to privilege or property. 625 00:43:00,452 --> 00:43:03,998 You could get hung for killing the King's deer. 626 00:43:05,583 --> 00:43:07,960 One particular code in England 627 00:43:08,043 --> 00:43:11,088 was that, uh, if you should take so much as a hair, 628 00:43:11,422 --> 00:43:13,382 you shall have your eyes torn out. 629 00:43:15,551 --> 00:43:18,721 By virtue of the Declaration of Independence, 630 00:43:18,804 --> 00:43:21,307 where the people became the sovereign, 631 00:43:21,765 --> 00:43:26,937 those rights and privileges that belong to the... the royalty, 632 00:43:27,104 --> 00:43:30,649 passed to the people, and they would be held in trust 633 00:43:30,733 --> 00:43:32,651 for the people, by the States. 634 00:43:33,694 --> 00:43:37,740 The irony is that before and after our decision about who owned the wildlife 635 00:43:37,823 --> 00:43:41,201 of this country, we were systematically eliminating it. 636 00:43:45,039 --> 00:43:48,417 Louis and Clark came up here in 1805 and 1806, 637 00:43:48,500 --> 00:43:52,630 they described that wildlife resource, as a resource 638 00:43:52,713 --> 00:43:57,259 that exceeded anything the eye of man had ever looked upon. 639 00:43:57,635 --> 00:44:02,097 Just a sheer abundance of wildlife that was out on the Great Plains at that time. 640 00:44:04,433 --> 00:44:09,146 Eight decades later, it had fallen to zero. 641 00:44:12,232 --> 00:44:15,361 We had become the wildlife boneyard of a continent. 642 00:44:19,114 --> 00:44:21,200 Throughout history, there have been people 643 00:44:21,283 --> 00:44:23,118 who have hunted for utilitarian reasons, 644 00:44:23,202 --> 00:44:25,537 or for, uh, commercial purposes. 645 00:44:25,621 --> 00:44:28,832 So, the United States had market hunters. 646 00:44:30,376 --> 00:44:33,295 Market hunters were individuals in the 19th century 647 00:44:33,379 --> 00:44:36,548 who would go out and kill wild animals... 648 00:44:37,341 --> 00:44:41,679 to sell their meat or hides to markets in the east. 649 00:44:43,681 --> 00:44:48,394 [Jim] In 1876, Fort Benton shipped 80,000 buffalo hides 650 00:44:48,477 --> 00:44:49,853 down the Missouri River. 651 00:44:51,105 --> 00:44:53,982 And that's kind of a centennial milepost, 652 00:44:54,066 --> 00:44:56,485 at least out in the west where we were, 653 00:44:56,985 --> 00:44:59,571 a sort of, uh, at maximum killing capacity, 654 00:44:59,655 --> 00:45:02,282 not only of the buffalo, but of all wildlife. 655 00:45:04,326 --> 00:45:07,746 Theodore Roosevelt, he has an intense interest in nature 656 00:45:07,830 --> 00:45:10,290 and this passion to go hunting, 657 00:45:10,374 --> 00:45:15,462 and he comes to the west to get to a bison before they were gone. 658 00:45:16,255 --> 00:45:18,882 He hires a guy named Joe Ferris, 659 00:45:19,299 --> 00:45:21,343 they hunt for seven days... 660 00:45:22,094 --> 00:45:24,721 and he shoots a lone wandering bull. 661 00:45:25,013 --> 00:45:26,598 And he is so excited 662 00:45:27,558 --> 00:45:30,352 that he does a war dance around the fallen bull, 663 00:45:31,186 --> 00:45:33,981 and then he gives his guide a hundred dollars. 664 00:45:35,232 --> 00:45:39,987 In '85, he had published Hunting Trips of a Ranchman & The Wilderness Hunter, 665 00:45:40,362 --> 00:45:42,739 and he left a passage in there of a rancher 666 00:45:42,823 --> 00:45:45,617 that he had talked to, who had made a journey 667 00:45:45,701 --> 00:45:49,455 of a thousand miles in northern Montana. 668 00:45:51,665 --> 00:45:54,209 To use the ranchman's own words, 669 00:45:54,293 --> 00:45:57,588 "I was never out of sight of a dead buffalo, 670 00:45:57,754 --> 00:46:00,007 and never in sight of a live one." 671 00:46:04,470 --> 00:46:07,055 Roosevelt shoots a second buffalo, 672 00:46:07,890 --> 00:46:10,976 and his reaction to it is no longer the dance. 673 00:46:12,311 --> 00:46:16,857 His commentary about killing that buffalo is a reflection 674 00:46:16,940 --> 00:46:19,485 on this nearly gone and vanished species. 675 00:46:20,819 --> 00:46:22,070 This noble beast. 676 00:46:23,489 --> 00:46:26,909 And he has a conservation epiphany. 677 00:46:29,620 --> 00:46:31,997 And that was a pretty important event. 678 00:46:34,708 --> 00:46:39,171 Theodore Roosevelt gets shunted into the Vice Presidency in 1900 679 00:46:39,505 --> 00:46:41,965 as a candidate on the McKinley ticket, 680 00:46:42,049 --> 00:46:44,134 and then McKinley gets shot. 681 00:46:44,593 --> 00:46:48,305 And all of a sudden, Theodore Roosevelt is the president. 682 00:46:49,348 --> 00:46:51,642 The National Republican Party boss said, 683 00:46:51,725 --> 00:46:54,645 "I told William McKinley it was a mistake 684 00:46:54,728 --> 00:46:57,105 to nominate that wild man. 685 00:46:57,272 --> 00:47:00,943 Now look, that damn cowboy is President of the United States." 686 00:47:02,986 --> 00:47:06,240 His first message to Congress was on conservation. 687 00:47:07,950 --> 00:47:12,329 He adds 140 million acres into the national forest system, 688 00:47:12,996 --> 00:47:16,416 and in that process, western district congressmen 689 00:47:16,500 --> 00:47:19,545 from six western states panic. 690 00:47:20,587 --> 00:47:23,632 They put a rider on an Ag Appropriations Bill 691 00:47:23,715 --> 00:47:27,553 to prohibit him from setting aside any more national forests. 692 00:47:28,178 --> 00:47:31,223 He has seven days to sign or veto that bill. 693 00:47:31,932 --> 00:47:36,645 In those seven days, he adds 16 million acres to the forest system, 694 00:47:36,728 --> 00:47:39,147 creates 21 new national forests, 695 00:47:39,690 --> 00:47:43,610 signs the executive orders creating those public states, 696 00:47:44,403 --> 00:47:47,823 and then he signs the bill forbidding him from ever doing it again. 697 00:47:49,491 --> 00:47:50,534 That's leadership. 698 00:47:52,452 --> 00:47:53,996 One generation later, 699 00:47:55,372 --> 00:47:58,875 we have the great economic depression, 700 00:47:59,293 --> 00:48:01,587 the drought, and the Dust Bowl. 701 00:48:02,754 --> 00:48:04,923 In the depth of that despair, 702 00:48:05,007 --> 00:48:07,551 we have Franklin Roosevelt, now President, 703 00:48:07,968 --> 00:48:11,805 and he calls the very first North American wildlife conference. 704 00:48:13,724 --> 00:48:16,101 This is what he told the hunters and the fishermen. 705 00:48:16,310 --> 00:48:19,187 He says, "Look, people, if you want these resources, 706 00:48:19,271 --> 00:48:20,731 you're gonna have to do it." 707 00:48:20,939 --> 00:48:23,942 And the wildlife conservation ethic... 708 00:48:24,735 --> 00:48:26,194 begins to take root. 709 00:48:27,613 --> 00:48:29,448 They put through Congress 710 00:48:29,531 --> 00:48:32,326 the Pittman-Robertson Wildlife Restoration Act. 711 00:48:33,452 --> 00:48:36,872 And it's been fueling wildlife restoration 712 00:48:37,289 --> 00:48:38,915 for 80 years. 713 00:48:40,584 --> 00:48:43,045 The hunters that rose up 714 00:48:43,128 --> 00:48:45,922 in the wake of the market shooters, 715 00:48:46,006 --> 00:48:49,217 rose up with a conservation ethic because it was essential. 716 00:48:49,426 --> 00:48:52,387 We wouldn't have hunting if that hadn't happened. 717 00:49:01,313 --> 00:49:02,981 [Martin] I mean, I think it's worth considering 718 00:49:03,065 --> 00:49:06,610 that many of the animals that we see all the time 719 00:49:07,152 --> 00:49:08,779 used to be really rare. 720 00:49:10,405 --> 00:49:12,032 You know, if you go to places 721 00:49:12,115 --> 00:49:16,745 where those species don't have that cultural or economic value, 722 00:49:17,287 --> 00:49:19,915 um, over time, they get crowded out. 723 00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:21,458 They're not there anymore. 724 00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,169 Uh, it... it happens all over the world. 725 00:49:24,878 --> 00:49:29,800 And it's not that way in the United States. 726 00:49:32,803 --> 00:49:36,348 We have, not only public wildlife through the North American model, 727 00:49:36,682 --> 00:49:37,724 but public lands. 728 00:49:38,934 --> 00:49:41,561 Hunters pay for that conservation. 729 00:49:43,647 --> 00:49:48,402 The picture of hunting revenue in the US is on a both state and federal level. 730 00:49:50,570 --> 00:49:54,199 On the state side, you've got the sale hunting licenses tags 731 00:49:54,282 --> 00:49:58,870 and stamps as the primary source of revenue for fish in wildlife commissions, 732 00:49:58,954 --> 00:50:02,416 and that's to the tune of about a billion dollars annually across the country. 733 00:50:03,750 --> 00:50:06,253 That is only paid for by people who are hunting. 734 00:50:07,879 --> 00:50:11,049 On the federal side, you've got stemming from the Pittman-Robertson Act, 735 00:50:11,133 --> 00:50:13,844 uh, a federal excise tax on hunting equipment. 736 00:50:13,927 --> 00:50:16,763 So it only hits people who are buying hunting equipment, 737 00:50:16,847 --> 00:50:18,682 and that money gets put in the federal fund. 738 00:50:20,016 --> 00:50:22,602 And that fund is then distributed to the States, 739 00:50:22,811 --> 00:50:24,646 but only if they meet certain requirements, right? 740 00:50:24,730 --> 00:50:28,316 And the first requirement is that all the money that the state's generated 741 00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,528 via the sales of hunting licenses, tags and stamps, 742 00:50:31,862 --> 00:50:35,699 has to be spent by that actual Fish and Wildlife Commission. 743 00:50:35,782 --> 00:50:39,119 It can't get diluted across the budget, it has to stay for fish and wildlife. 744 00:50:39,578 --> 00:50:43,957 And this is a cool part too, is if that money is, for whatever reason, 745 00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:45,667 not spent within two years, 746 00:50:45,751 --> 00:50:48,795 it gets reallocated to the Migratory Bird Conservation Act. 747 00:50:49,212 --> 00:50:52,257 In a holistic sense, it's a really, really tight structure. 748 00:50:52,340 --> 00:50:55,177 It's an example of pretty effective regulation 749 00:50:55,260 --> 00:50:57,637 and it's cool to see the mechanics of how it all works. 750 00:51:04,227 --> 00:51:07,230 [birds cooing] 751 00:51:22,329 --> 00:51:24,414 [Steve] I hunt many things in many places, 752 00:51:24,498 --> 00:51:27,834 but I feel best and most fulfilled hunting in places 753 00:51:28,084 --> 00:51:31,588 where it's physically difficult and a bit hazardous. 754 00:51:34,341 --> 00:51:36,885 I enjoy moving through nasty country. 755 00:51:36,968 --> 00:51:39,346 I like the climb. I don't mind suffering the cold. 756 00:51:39,429 --> 00:51:42,724 I like being in places where I have to struggle against obstacles. 757 00:51:44,893 --> 00:51:48,438 I could get a deer other places and in easier ways, 758 00:51:48,522 --> 00:51:51,399 but intentionally handicapping our endeavors 759 00:51:51,483 --> 00:51:55,195 is one of those peculiar hallmarks of our species. 760 00:51:56,571 --> 00:52:01,159 In hunting, we refer to this system of handicapping as "fair chase." 761 00:52:02,702 --> 00:52:06,289 Now, it's a slippery concept in that it's hard to define 762 00:52:06,373 --> 00:52:09,626 in a way that everyone is going to agree on. 763 00:52:09,709 --> 00:52:12,838 But it has to do with evening the playing field 764 00:52:12,921 --> 00:52:14,840 between predator and prey. 765 00:52:15,882 --> 00:52:21,388 Diminishing, sometimes greatly, the certainty of the hunter's success. 766 00:52:21,805 --> 00:52:24,808 Many of these handicaps are codified by law. 767 00:52:25,100 --> 00:52:27,686 Weapons that can and cannot be used, 768 00:52:27,769 --> 00:52:30,981 hours of the day that are allowable for hunting. 769 00:52:31,106 --> 00:52:34,734 Restriction on age classes and gender of animals 770 00:52:34,818 --> 00:52:36,278 that can be harvested. 771 00:52:36,361 --> 00:52:38,697 But many hunters go it one better, 772 00:52:38,780 --> 00:52:42,534 and add layers of personal prohibitions. 773 00:52:42,909 --> 00:52:45,287 Weapons they could use, but don't. 774 00:52:45,370 --> 00:52:48,748 Age classes of animals they could kill, but won't. 775 00:52:49,332 --> 00:52:53,628 Much of it is subjective. It's deeply personal. 776 00:52:53,712 --> 00:52:58,758 Hunting plays out in your head as much as it does out on the land. 777 00:52:59,467 --> 00:53:03,013 Your version of it needs to leave you feeling right. 778 00:53:03,930 --> 00:53:07,309 It needs to leave you feeling good about what you've done. 779 00:53:11,021 --> 00:53:15,775 All hunters need to find that line for themselves. 780 00:53:30,874 --> 00:53:32,417 [gunshot] 781 00:53:37,255 --> 00:53:38,965 [gun clicks] 782 00:53:52,395 --> 00:53:56,274 The first time I killed a deer, I was 13. 783 00:53:57,817 --> 00:54:01,488 I got one with a rifle in Michigan where I grew up. 784 00:54:02,739 --> 00:54:04,407 It was so close, I was like I couldn't miss. 785 00:54:04,491 --> 00:54:07,494 I was held right where I could see on it. Bam. 786 00:54:12,082 --> 00:54:13,792 I got it and I ran over there, 787 00:54:14,084 --> 00:54:19,673 and I was kind of surprised to see the deer hadn't died yet, you know. 788 00:54:19,756 --> 00:54:24,219 And... and now looking back on it, you just, very quickly shoot it again, 789 00:54:24,302 --> 00:54:26,221 but I was young and inexperienced. 790 00:54:26,304 --> 00:54:28,264 And I didn't know, and I... And I... 791 00:54:28,598 --> 00:54:30,809 jumped in there and I killed the deer with a knife. 792 00:54:34,771 --> 00:54:39,693 And, like, looking at it, I mean, like, yeah, it was kind of like, a violent act. 793 00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:44,072 And... and I recognize that there is a violence to hunting. 794 00:54:44,531 --> 00:54:46,658 It is different than a human-on-human violence, 795 00:54:47,450 --> 00:54:49,536 but there is a violence to it. 796 00:54:51,913 --> 00:54:56,292 But, I think that it's a funny little exercise 797 00:54:56,376 --> 00:54:58,837 to act as though you can be alive today... 798 00:55:00,463 --> 00:55:04,009 and be a breathing, living, eating person 799 00:55:04,092 --> 00:55:08,263 who's dining in restaurants and going to the grocery store, 800 00:55:09,014 --> 00:55:15,270 and to somehow feel as though you've escaped the cycle of violence 801 00:55:15,353 --> 00:55:18,732 that drives all existence, and that drives nature. 802 00:55:32,287 --> 00:55:34,289 [Ron] Whenever I kill a deer, 803 00:55:35,206 --> 00:55:36,958 I always have that, um... 804 00:55:39,169 --> 00:55:42,130 degree of sorrow for the animal. 805 00:55:42,839 --> 00:55:43,965 For the kill. 806 00:55:44,424 --> 00:55:46,176 I don't feel guilty about it, 807 00:55:46,259 --> 00:55:50,055 but you feel sorry for the animal 808 00:55:50,138 --> 00:55:54,142 in taking him out of life... for your benefit. 809 00:55:54,225 --> 00:55:57,312 And I don't think I'll ever get over that. 810 00:55:58,021 --> 00:56:02,108 I think it's what every hunter should have. 811 00:56:03,109 --> 00:56:04,569 Those emotions should be listened to 812 00:56:04,652 --> 00:56:09,282 because they... they... They represent the better parts of our nature. 813 00:56:09,783 --> 00:56:13,244 The feelings of empathy and sympathy, 814 00:56:13,328 --> 00:56:16,414 the feelings of having ended an animal's life. 815 00:56:16,498 --> 00:56:19,751 And I think the question then to ask is, 816 00:56:19,834 --> 00:56:23,546 "Was it necessary what I just did? Did I have to do that? Is that... 817 00:56:24,798 --> 00:56:26,049 What is... What is... 818 00:56:26,132 --> 00:56:29,552 What is my heart telling me about what just transpired?" 819 00:56:31,679 --> 00:56:35,141 [Danny] We're human beings and we're of this earth, 820 00:56:35,642 --> 00:56:38,978 and we've been hunting animals for thousands of years 821 00:56:39,062 --> 00:56:41,147 and to think that, that no longer applies 822 00:56:41,231 --> 00:56:46,903 just because we have technology that allows us to not necessarily hunt anymore, 823 00:56:47,237 --> 00:56:49,280 um, seems kind of ridiculous to me. 824 00:56:52,325 --> 00:56:54,953 [Steve] Why do some people respect 825 00:56:55,036 --> 00:56:57,872 every predator but themselves? 826 00:57:01,042 --> 00:57:03,336 Think of an owl perched up in a tree... 827 00:57:05,380 --> 00:57:07,090 watching for a rabbit 828 00:57:07,423 --> 00:57:09,425 that it's going to pounce on and kill. 829 00:57:10,677 --> 00:57:14,597 It does not occur to the owl to ask, "Do I belong here? 830 00:57:17,392 --> 00:57:20,145 Do I have the right to eat this rabbit and live?" 831 00:57:22,272 --> 00:57:26,109 It just is one with the natural world. 832 00:57:29,696 --> 00:57:33,158 It's impossible to untangle it, as a creature, 833 00:57:34,451 --> 00:57:36,244 from its impending actions. 834 00:57:38,663 --> 00:57:40,373 And I admire that owl. 835 00:57:41,416 --> 00:57:45,128 How good, to be so unapologetic 836 00:57:45,211 --> 00:57:47,297 about what sharp talons. 837 00:58:12,989 --> 00:58:15,867 [cutting skin] 838 00:58:38,056 --> 00:58:38,932 [bone cracking] 839 00:59:03,706 --> 00:59:07,293 Legally and morally, the animal, the instant it dies, 840 00:59:07,377 --> 00:59:11,506 it's my property, and I have an obligation to the animal 841 00:59:11,589 --> 00:59:16,803 to, um, get it skinned, get it cooled down, keep it clean... 842 00:59:16,886 --> 00:59:22,892 and start the long arduous task of getting all that meat home. 843 00:59:23,518 --> 00:59:26,896 I'm going to take an animal, I'm going to utilize everything. 844 00:59:27,355 --> 00:59:28,356 Everything. 845 00:59:28,439 --> 00:59:30,400 We don't let anything go to waste. 846 00:59:30,608 --> 00:59:32,485 Whatever we can utilize, we utilize. 847 00:59:32,569 --> 00:59:35,029 I don't buy meat, I just eat game meat, 848 00:59:35,113 --> 00:59:39,409 so, uh, that is something that I value very highly. 849 00:59:39,867 --> 00:59:41,411 If you're going to take an animal's life, 850 00:59:41,494 --> 00:59:44,872 if you're going to consume meat as part of your diet, 851 00:59:45,081 --> 00:59:47,625 you have a responsibility to use 852 00:59:47,750 --> 00:59:50,378 every last bit of that animal that you can. 853 00:59:50,628 --> 00:59:52,130 [Jones] If someone chooses to be a hunter, 854 00:59:52,964 --> 00:59:56,301 and that person decides to say, 855 00:59:56,384 --> 01:00:00,221 "Honor or respect the prey... 856 01:00:00,555 --> 01:00:05,560 by using all the parts of it and doing it in this kind of honorific manner," 857 01:00:06,269 --> 01:00:07,854 does that make a difference, 858 01:00:08,521 --> 01:00:10,356 uh, morally or ethically? 859 01:00:10,648 --> 01:00:12,609 It doesn't make a difference to the animal. 860 01:00:12,692 --> 01:00:13,776 The animal is dead. 861 01:00:17,322 --> 01:00:20,158 The animal is not gonna say, "Hey, thanks for shooting me 862 01:00:20,241 --> 01:00:22,285 and really caring and respecting me. 863 01:00:23,661 --> 01:00:26,247 That's better than you doing it maliciously and not caring." 864 01:00:27,874 --> 01:00:29,208 The animal's dead. 865 01:01:19,676 --> 01:01:22,011 [Steve] Most of the hunters that I've known in my life, 866 01:01:22,136 --> 01:01:23,763 and I have known a great many, 867 01:01:24,347 --> 01:01:27,475 struggle in some way with the violence. 868 01:01:29,894 --> 01:01:32,063 But we're the rare few, really, 869 01:01:32,772 --> 01:01:35,692 who are willing to reckon face-to-face with the fact 870 01:01:35,775 --> 01:01:37,610 that our lives cause death. 871 01:01:45,118 --> 01:01:48,538 As a hunter, you do strive for humane slaughter. 872 01:01:48,663 --> 01:01:51,833 Which might not happen every time, but the intention is there. 873 01:01:54,502 --> 01:01:58,923 And the animal lives in the purity of the natural world. 874 01:02:00,174 --> 01:02:03,469 Uncorrupted by domestication and confinement, 875 01:02:03,678 --> 01:02:06,264 until it passes into the phase 876 01:02:06,347 --> 01:02:09,100 of becoming food for me and my family. 877 01:02:11,477 --> 01:02:14,188 Who eats more purely than that? 878 01:02:18,317 --> 01:02:20,153 This is just purely personal opinion. 879 01:02:21,070 --> 01:02:23,114 I can't back this up with anything. 880 01:02:24,490 --> 01:02:26,576 But I think that a lot of people... 881 01:02:27,452 --> 01:02:31,164 feel in their heart, right... 882 01:02:31,789 --> 01:02:33,708 They want to be a hunter. 883 01:02:33,791 --> 01:02:35,585 They feel that need to be a hunter. 884 01:02:36,711 --> 01:02:38,880 But, they've been told that they can't be, 885 01:02:38,963 --> 01:02:41,007 or they've been told that it's wrong. 886 01:02:41,090 --> 01:02:43,760 And what they're looking for when they hear about food 887 01:02:43,843 --> 01:02:47,722 and this idea of like, humane slaughter, 888 01:02:47,847 --> 01:02:49,932 sustainable resources, organic. 889 01:02:50,016 --> 01:02:54,061 I think that what they're doing is they're finding a way in. 890 01:02:55,938 --> 01:02:59,400 So they know they want to go but they haven't been able to justify the leap. 891 01:02:59,650 --> 01:03:04,322 And they're trying to find emotionally a way to put a foot into that place. 892 01:03:05,364 --> 01:03:09,076 And they are just begging for a way in. 893 01:03:13,956 --> 01:03:16,709 I don't know how many are gonna actually make the leap. 894 01:03:18,169 --> 01:03:21,297 But I feel that right now, for some reason, 895 01:03:21,380 --> 01:03:24,133 a lot of people are wondering 896 01:03:24,509 --> 01:03:26,093 what's been taken from them. 897 01:03:29,430 --> 01:03:31,808 And how they might get some semblance of it back. 898 01:03:51,536 --> 01:03:54,372 The writer, Tom McGuane has an essay about hunting 899 01:03:54,455 --> 01:03:57,041 in which he recounts a conversation 900 01:03:57,208 --> 01:04:00,670 where someone takes a hunter to task by asking him, 901 01:04:01,754 --> 01:04:03,673 "Why do you have to go and kill deer? 902 01:04:05,424 --> 01:04:07,385 Why do deer have to die for you? 903 01:04:09,470 --> 01:04:11,013 Would you die for deer?" 904 01:04:12,431 --> 01:04:15,184 The hunter replies, "If it came to that." 905 01:04:20,439 --> 01:04:24,861 The conversation illustrates that central paradox. 906 01:04:25,069 --> 01:04:28,573 You love animals, but then you kill some of them. 907 01:04:30,616 --> 01:04:33,744 When wrestling with it, I believe it's important to remember 908 01:04:33,828 --> 01:04:37,665 that many of our most influential conservationists 909 01:04:37,748 --> 01:04:39,500 had a love of hunting 910 01:04:39,584 --> 01:04:45,006 that inspired in them a desire to save the land and restore wildlife. 911 01:04:45,381 --> 01:04:48,092 My hope is that hunting will continue to do this, 912 01:04:48,426 --> 01:04:51,762 to inspire in people a sense of active ownership, 913 01:04:51,846 --> 01:04:54,765 active stewardship for the land 914 01:04:54,891 --> 01:04:58,019 many generations into the future. 915 01:05:04,859 --> 01:05:08,362 [Jim] Those early hunters talked about the generations 916 01:05:08,446 --> 01:05:10,281 within the womb of time. 917 01:05:13,034 --> 01:05:14,827 To the extent that, 918 01:05:15,369 --> 01:05:19,540 each generation has a responsibility to the future. 919 01:05:21,167 --> 01:05:23,377 And I'm going to sneak in another personal story now. 920 01:05:24,712 --> 01:05:28,633 Hearing about the national forest, I walk there from my house. 921 01:05:28,758 --> 01:05:31,093 I see three hunters coming up that trail... 922 01:05:31,928 --> 01:05:35,389 and it looks to be a father and two young sons. 923 01:05:35,973 --> 01:05:38,976 And they're like poster children out of hunter education, 924 01:05:39,060 --> 01:05:43,481 control of the gun, blaze orange, serious expressions. 925 01:05:44,106 --> 01:05:47,234 And the father tiptoes up to me and whispers, 926 01:05:47,652 --> 01:05:49,612 "We don't want to get ahead of you." 927 01:05:50,404 --> 01:05:53,240 Deference to this old guy sitting by the trail. 928 01:05:54,450 --> 01:05:57,745 And I said to the father, "I think I know... 929 01:05:58,704 --> 01:06:01,165 what you're doing, and I want you ahead of me." 930 01:06:02,208 --> 01:06:05,086 And so, I gave him the high sign and the kids' face lit up 931 01:06:05,169 --> 01:06:08,756 in the pre-dawn darkness with a bright smile, 932 01:06:09,674 --> 01:06:11,717 and I watched them go up the ridge. 933 01:06:12,051 --> 01:06:13,427 And then I thought... 934 01:06:14,637 --> 01:06:20,810 "Here was three generations of people meeting in the national forest, 935 01:06:21,519 --> 01:06:25,022 enjoying the beauty of living, and the joy of life." 936 01:06:25,815 --> 01:06:28,359 I put my head in my hands and I wept, 937 01:06:29,151 --> 01:06:30,528 because of what that meant. 938 01:06:37,618 --> 01:06:40,579 [instrumental music playing] 939 01:07:37,428 --> 01:07:38,763 [music continues] 940 01:08:35,194 --> 01:08:36,862 [music continues] 941 01:08:58,801 --> 01:09:00,928 [music fades] 80916

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