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AND GOOD EVENING.
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WE HAVE EXCLUSIVE DETAILS --
A NEW COMMUNICATION THAT
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COULD BE FROM THE SERIAL
KILLER BTK.
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Woman: NOW POLICE BELIEVE BTK
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IS ALIVE AND LIVING
IN WICHITA.
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BTK'S TRADEMARK,
WRITING LETTERS TO THE PAPER,
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DETAILING HIS MURDERS
AND TAUNTING POLICE.
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Otis: IT WAS JUST SO HARD TO
BELIEVE THAT
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A SERIAL KILLER WHO WAS VERY
ACTIVE IN THE '70s,
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WHO HAD DISAPPEARED FOR MANY,
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MANY YEARS AFTER SEVERAL
HOMICIDES AND HAD NEVER BEEN
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HEARD FROM EVER,
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WAS SUDDENLY,
IN 2004, SENDING
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PICTURES TO THE POLICE.
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Peters: ABSOLUTELY
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EVERYONE WAS IN SHOCK,
SAID, "NO WAY."
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THERE'S NO WAY
THIS IS TRUE.
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IT CAN'T BE
THAT HE'S STILL AROUND.
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Kelly: PEOPLE WHO WERE OLD
ENOUGH TO REMEMBER THE ORIGINAL
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BTK MURDERS STARTED TO FEEL
THAT FAMILIAR FEAR.
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WHAT IF THIS GUY STRUCK AGAIN?
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Hatteberg: THERE'S NOW
A WHOLE GENERATION OF PEOPLE
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WHO HAVE NOT BEEN
AFRAID OF BTK.
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NOW HE HAS ONCE AGAIN
RE-EMERGED.
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THAT TERRIFIED A WHOLE NEW
GENERATION OF PEOPLE,
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PARTICULARLY WOMEN.
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Kelly: THE POLICE TOOK
THIS THREAT VERY SERIOUSLY.
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THEY FELT THAT BTK WAS
ANNOUNCING THAT HE WAS
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ACTIVE AGAIN,
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THAT HE WAS ON THE PROWL,
AND THAT HE WAS DANGEROUS
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Narrator: LIEUTENANT LANDWEHR
AND COMMAND STAFF
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QUICKLY ASSEMBLE A TASK FORCE,
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THE SECOND IN 20 YEARS CHARGED
WITH BRINGING DOWN BTK.
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Otis:
THE LOGISTICS WERE INCREDIBLE,
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BECAUSE WE REALLY HAD NO PLACE
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IN OUR CITY HALL TO HOUSE
AS MANY PEOPLE AS WE'RE GOING
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TO NEED, SO WE FOUND ROOM
AT OUR TRAINING CENTER.
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PHONES HAD TO BE INSTALLED,
COMPUTERS HAD TO BE INSTALLED.
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IT WAS A LOT OF
DIFFERENT THINGS GOING ON.
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Relph:
THIS WAS YOUR CRACK AT
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THE MOST INFAMOUS CRIME
IN WICHITA'S HISTORY.
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I'M GONNA GET THAT GUY THAT
SCARED ME WHEN I WAS A KID.
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[ PHONE RINGING ]
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Otis: WITHIN 24 HOURS,
WE HAD OVER 200 TIPS
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AND IN THE FIRST 48 HOURS,
WE WERE PUSHING 700 TIPS.
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Narrator: THIS NEW TASK FORCE IS
UNDER NO ILLUSIONS ABOUT HOW
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HARD IT WILL BE TO CATCH
THE ELUSIVE BTK,
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YET THEY NOW HAVE ONE
BIG ADVANTAGE.
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WE BELIEVED WE HAD BTK'S DNA,
AND THAT'S WHAT
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THE INVESTIGATORS
IN THE '70s NEVER HAD.
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Narrator: IN 1986,
BLOOD AND SKIN WAS
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REMOVED FROM UNDER
VICKI WEGERLE'S FINGERNAILS,
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BUT CONCLUSIVE DNA TESTING
WAS STILL YEARS AWAY.
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WHEN SEMEN WAS FOUND
AT THE OTERO AND FOX SCENES,
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DNA WASN'T EVEN A CONCEPT.
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Otis: OVER THE YEARS,
LIEUTENANT LANDWEHR
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WOULD REGULARLY CHECK WITH
OUR LOCAL DNA LAB
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ABOUT TESTING
THAT OLD EVIDENCE.
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BUT IN THE '80s
AND EARLY '90s,
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DNA TECHNOLOGY HAD NOT GROWN
TO WHERE YOU COULD GET A SMALL
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AMOUNT OF DNA TO TEST OUT.
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YOU'D HAVE TO BURN UP
THE WHOLE SAMPLE.
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AND THE LIEUTENANT, GOD BLESS
HIM, HAD THE FORESIGHT TO
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REALIZE THAT IF WE TEST ONE OF
THESE SAMPLES, AND WE DON'T GET
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WHAT WE WANT,
OUR WHOLE SAMPLE'S GONE,
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AND IF WE DON'T GET A PROFILE,
WE'RE -- WE'RE SCREWED.
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Relph: I GIVE LANDWEHR
INCREDIBLE CREDIT FOR
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THE JUDICIOUSNESS
OF THAT EVIDENCE, 'CAUSE,
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YOU KNOW, ONCE YOU USE IT UP,
YOU CAN'T GO ASKING FOR MORE.
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Narrator: BY 2004,
THE SCIENCE PROVES IRREFUTABLE.
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Otis: WE HAD THE SAME
DNA PROFILE IN THE OTERO CASE,
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THE NANCY FOX CASE,
AND THE VICKI WEGERLE CASE.
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SO INSTEAD OF TRYING TO FIGURE
OUT WHERE A NAMED PERSON
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IN A TIP WAS
IN 1974 OR 1976,
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ALL WE NEEDED
WAS A DNA SAMPLE.
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Gouge: SO WHEN WE WOULD GET
A TIP ON A SUSPECT,
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WE WOULD SIMPLY EXPLAIN TO
THEM THAT THE EASIEST WAY TO
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ELIMINATE THEM FROM SUSPICION
WOULD BE TO DO A DNA SWAB.
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Relph: THE TIPS,
WE WORKED FOR ABOUT 5,000,
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AND ACTUAL SWABBINGS WERE
SOMEWHERE AROUND 17 TO 1,800.
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WE ALSO ASSURED PEOPLE
THAT THOSE SAMPLES WOULD BE
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DESTROYED AND WOULDN'T BE USED
FOR ANY OTHER CASE.
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Narrator: ON MAY 4th, A SECOND
LETTER BELIEVED TO BE FROM BTK
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IS DELIVERED TO KAKE-TV.
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WHEN I ARRIVED,
THERE WERE CAMERAS SET UP,
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FILMING THE ENTRANCE
OF THE DETECTIVES COMING IN
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TO PICK UP THE PACKAGE --
THEY DID A PRODUCTION ON IT.
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Woman: IT WAS JUST BEFORE NOON
ON WEDNESDAY
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WHEN A LETTER ARRIVED
IN OUR STUDIOS.
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THE SENDER --
POSSIBLY BTK.
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KAKE-TV 10
AND THE ADDRESS TO THE STATION
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WAS TYPED ON A LABEL.
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THE RETURN ADDRESS WAS FROM
THOMAS B. KING,
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408 CLAYTON STREET,
WICHITA, KANSAS, 67203,
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AN ADDRESS
THAT DOES NOT EXIST.
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Narrator: THIS COMMUNICATION
CONTAINS 13 CHAPTER HEADINGS,
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APPARENTLY FOR A BOOK,
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AND A HOMEMADE
WORD SEARCH PUZZLE.
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Otis: WE WERE ABLE TO
FIND THE WORDS
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THAT TALKED ABOUT
THE M.O. OF HIS MURDERS.
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I THINK HE WAS SHOWING OFF.
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I THINK HE WAS
PROUD TO TELL US
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HOW HE COMMITTED HIS CRIMES.
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Gouge: IT BECAME CLEAR
THAT HE WANTED TO TELL HIS STORY
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RATHER THAN TO HAVE
OTHERS TO TELL HIS STORY,
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SO HIS IDEA WAS
THAT HE WOULD OUTSMART
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EVERYONE AND CONTINUE
TO GET AWAY WITH THIS.
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Peters: THE THING
THAT SCARED ME THE MOST
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WERE THE CHAPTERS.
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THE LAST CHAPTER
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WAS ENTITLED
"WILL THERE BE MORE?"
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SCARED US HALF TO DEATH.
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BTK IS A KAKE VIEWER
AND HAS BEEN FOR YEARS.
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HE HAS COMMUNICATED WITH US
SINCE THE '70s,
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AND IT CONTINUES TODAY.
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WE KNOW HE IS WATCHING,
AND WE KNOW HE IS LISTENING,
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AND TO HIM WE SAY, THE MESSAGE
HAS BEEN RECEIVED AND PASSED ON.
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KAKE-TV WAS HIS STATION,
AND KAKE-TV
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GOT THOSE COMMUNICATIONS
ON THE AIR.
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IT'S WHAT HE WANTED
IN THE '70s.
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IT'S WHAT HE WANTED IN 2004.
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WE ARE HERE, WE ARE LISTENING
AND COMMUNICATING.
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I THINK THAT HE ACTUALLY
THOUGHT OF
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THE PEOPLE OF KAKE AS
HIS FRIENDS,
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LONG-DISTANCE FRIENDS
AND THROUGH THE TV ONLY,
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BUT THAT'S WHY HE DIRECTED SO
MANY COMMUNICATIONS AT US.
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HE FELT COMFORTABLE.
HE KNEW US.
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Narrator: WITHIN A MONTH,
A THIRD LETTER
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IS DISCOVERED
TAPED TO THE BACK
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OF A STOP SIGN
ON A BUSY STREET.
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THE CONTENTS ARE PARTICULARLY
DISTURBING AS THEY DETAIL
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THE OTERO FAMILY KILLINGS.
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HE MENTIONS WHERE EVERY VICTIM
WAS FOUND AND WHAT CLOTHING
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THEY WERE WEARING
AND HOW THEY WERE BOUND
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AND WHAT KIND
OF KNOTS WERE USED.
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HE THOUGHT TO HIMSELF, "SAY,
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"THIS MAY BE IT,
A PERFECT SETUP,
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"A PERSON HE COULD TIE UP,
TORTURE, AND MAYBE KILL.
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"IN JUST A FLASH,
HE ORDERED THEM BACK INSIDE,
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"CONFRONTING THE FAMILY.
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"HE SLIPPED THE GARROTE
AROUND THE GIRL'S NECK.
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"SHE GRASPED.
HER EYES BULGED.
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"THEN SHE PASSED OUT.
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"REX MADE A CLOVE HITCH
AND PLACED IT OVER JULIE'S NECK.
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"SHE CRIED,
'GOD HAVE MERCY ON YOU,'
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"BEFORE HE TIGHTENED THE NOOSE.
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"RETURNING TO THE BASEMENT,
HE FOUND
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"JOSEPHINE AWAKE
AND LOOKING AT THE CEILING.
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"HE PICKED HER UP AND TOOK HER
TIED BODY TO THE SEWER PIPE.
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"'DON'T WORRY, BABY,
HE SAID.
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"'YOU'LL BE IN HEAVEN
TONIGHT WITH THE REST.'"
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Narrator: ON JULY 17th,
A FOURTH MISSIVE THREATENING
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MORE MURDERS IS LEFT AT
THE WICHITA PUBLIC LIBRARY.
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A FIFTH LETTER,
RECOVERED OCTOBER 22nd,
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IS A FABRICATED VERSION
OF BTK'S LIFE STORY.
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HE ALWAYS SAW HIMSELF
AS A MASTER CRIMINAL,
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SO I THINK HE WANTED TO COME UP
WITH A STORY THAT CREATED HIM.
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"MOTHER SLEPT BESIDE ME AT
TIMES, THE SMELLS,
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"THE FEEL OF HER UNDERCLOTHES,
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"AND SHE LET ME RUB HER HAIR.
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"IF YOU MASTURBATE,
GOD WILL COME AND KILL YOU.
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"MOM -- WORDS AFTER SHE FOUND
SEMINAL YELLOW STAIN IN
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"HER UNDERWEAR ONE DAY,
SHE TRIED TO BEAT ME.
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"I FOUGHT BACK.
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"SHE HELD MY HANDS
BEHIND MY BACK AND USED
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"THE MAN'S BELT TO WHIP ME.
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FUNNY, IT HURT,
BUT SPARKY LIKED IT."
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HE WAS TRYING TO MAKE UP
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A PERSONALITY THAT WAS JUST
ONE CLICHE AFTER THE OTHER.
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Narrator: LIKE CHIEF LAMUNYON
IN THE 1970s,
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LIEUTENANT LANDWEHR BELIEVES
HIS BEST SHOT AT CATCHING BTK
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IS TO PLAY TO HIS EGO
AND LURE HIM IN
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WITH THE HOPE
THAT HE'LL MAKE A MISTAKE.
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THE FBI SUGGESTED THAT
WE SHOULD HAVE ONE PERSON BE
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THE FACE OF THE CASE FOR
THE WICHITA POLICE DEPARTMENT,
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AND IT WAS DECIDED THAT THAT
WOULD BE LIEUTENANT LANDWEHR.
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Lamunyon: AND I CAN'T STRESS
THE IMPORTANCE OF WHAT
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KENNY HE DID IN THIS --
KENNY SAYS,
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"THIS IS GONNA BE SCRIPTED.
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"I'M GONNA GIVE OUT CERTAIN
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SPECIFIC INFORMATION."
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A LETTER RECEIVED BY KAKE-TV
WAS TURNED OVER
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TO US LAST WEDNESDAY.
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THE FOLLOWING
FACTS ABOUT BTK
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ARE BEING MADE AVAILABLE
TO THE PUBLIC
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IN HOPES OF IDENTIFYING BTK.
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THOSE RELEASES WEREN'T MEANT
FOR THE PUBLIC.
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THEY WERE MEANT FOR BTK.
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HE CLAIMS THE FOLLOWING,
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HE WAS BORN IN 1939.
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Relph:
KEEPING HIM TALKING.
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NO CRIMINAL EXCEPT
MAYBE THE ZODIAC HAS
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CONTINUED TO COMMUNICATE
WITH THE POLICE
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AND NOT BEEN CAUGHT.
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THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST
CHALLENGING CASES
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THAT, UH,
I'VE NEVER BEEN INVOLVED WITH.
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Gouge:
LIEUTENANT LANDWEHR WOULD SAY,
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I REALLY THINK BTK WOULD BE
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A VERY INTERESTING PERSON
TO TALK TO.
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AND THAT WAS KIND OF
AN INVITATION TO BTK
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TO BOND WITH HIM,
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BECAUSE WE KNEW
THAT HE WOULD BE WATCHING
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EVERY NEWS CONFERENCE
THAT HE COULD ABOUT HIMSELF.
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Relph: AND SO EVERY NEWS
RELEASE, EVERYTHING YOU HEARD
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THROUGH THE NEWS,
CAME THROUGH KENNY LANDWEHR.
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HE WOULD BECOME
BTK'S ADVERSARY.
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WE ARE AGAIN ASKING FOR HELP
FROM THE PUBLIC.
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Gouge: THE IDEA WAS ALSO TO SAY
THAT WE WERE CLOSING IN ON HIM
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AND THAT SORT OF THING IN
ORDER TO TRY TO KEEP HIM FROM
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KILLING SOMEBODY ELSE.
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
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BY THIS TIME,
WE KNEW HE'D KILLED EIGHT.
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THE URGENCY WAS, YOU KNOW,
THIS BACK AND FORTH
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COMMUNICATION IS GONNA
ENTERTAIN HIM FOR SO LONG,
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AND THEN HE HAVE TO UP THE ANTE.
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WE TRULY FEEL THAT HE IS
TRYING TO COMMUNICATE WITH US.
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Woman: WE'VE HEARD IT TIME
AND TIME AGAIN FROM POLICE.
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BTK IS SPEAKING OUT AND
WANTS TO MAKE SURE HE'S HEARD.
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WE KNEW WE HAD A PIVOTAL ROLE
IN GETTING THIS GUY CAUGHT.
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WE HAD TO KEEP PUTTING
THESE THINGS ON TV.
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Man: IT APPEARS BTK
IS COMMUNICATING AGAIN.
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KAKE-TV RECEIVING ANOTHER
MYSTERIOUS MESSAGE TODAY.
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WE HAD TO KEEP PUBLICIZING
EVERYTHING HE SENT US,
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EVERY CLUE HE SENT US
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BECAUSE WE KNEW THAT
WAS THE KEY
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TO GETTING HIM CAPTURED
ONE DAY.
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THIS IS A STORY
YOU'LL ONLY SEE ON KAKE,
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AND TODAY'S MESSAGE IS
EERILY SIMILAR
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TO A POSTCARD KAKE
RECEIVED LAST WEEK.
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Peters: HE WAS WATCHING ME
EVERY SINGLE NIGHT.
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HE WAS WATCHING ALL OF US,
BUT OF COURSE, HE LIKED WOMEN.
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KEEP IT ON KAKE FOR COMPLETE
LIVE TEAM COVERAGE.
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I HAD NO IDEA
WHAT HE WAS THINKING,
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WHAT HE MAY HAVE
BEEN PLANNING,
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WHAT HE MAY HAVE BEEN DOING
WHILE HE WAS WATCHING ME.
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I HAD NO IDEA.
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FOR THE SECOND TIME IN JUST
MORE THAN A WEEK,
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ANOTHER POSSIBLE
COMMUNICATION FROM BTK
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ARRIVES HERE AT OUR STUDIOS.
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THE COMMUNICATIONS
ARE GETTING MORE FREQUENT
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AND A LOT
MORE PERSONAL.
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THERE WAS ONE COMMUNICATION
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00:11:13,965 --> 00:11:16,785
THAT REALLY FRIGHTENED ME.
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ONE NIGHT I TURNED TO
THE WEATHERMAN, AND I SAID,
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I SURE HOPE IT GETS WARMER,
BECAUSE MY CO-ANCHOR AND I,
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NAMED JEFF,
WE BOTH HAD COLDS.
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WE GOT THE CRUD OR SOMETHING.
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TWO DAYS LATER, WE GET
A POSTCARD FROM BTK.
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"SORRY ABOUT SUSAN'S
AND JEFF'S COLDS."
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THIS MORNING WE HAVE MORE
INFORMATION ON
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THE LETTER SENT TO THE WICHITA
EAGLE BY THE BTK KILLER.
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Kelly:
WHEN BTK RESURFACED,
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IT REKINDLED FEAR AMONG
THE REPORTERS, TOO.
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SOME OF THEM WHO NEVER
WOULD HAVE OWNED
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A GUN BEFORE WENT TO A GUN
STORE AND PURCHASED A REVOLVER
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TO PROTECT THEMSELVES.
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SOME INSTALLED
SECURITY SYSTEMS.
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EVERYONE BECAME MORE ALERT.
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IT WAS CLEAR
THAT BTK WAS FOCUSED
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ON TAUNTING THE POLICE
BUT ALSO VERY
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FOCUSED ON JOURNALISTS,
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AND NO ONE KNEW
WHO HE MIGHT TARGET NEXT.
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Rawson: I DIDN'T REALLY FOLLOW
THE NEWS OF BTK IN 2004
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VERY CLOSELY --
IT WAS REALLY CRAZY,
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00:12:17,586 --> 00:12:18,996
BUT IT
FELT LIKE SOMEONE HAD
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COMMITTED THESE CRIMES A LONG
TIME BEFORE YOU WERE BORN.
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IT WAS JUST THIS THING
YOU READ ABOUT
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IN THE NEWS THAT WAS
HAPPENING WHERE YOU GREW UP.
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Narrator: THE SERIAL KILLER'S
SIXTH COMMUNICATION
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IS DISCOVERED
BY A MAN WALKING IN
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A LOCAL PARK
ON DECEMBER 13, 2004.
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Woman:
A WHITE PLASTIC BAG INSIDE
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AN OBJECT WRAPPED IN PLASTIC
AND A DRIVER'S LICENSE
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WITH THE NAME NANCY FOX.
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NANCY WAS KILLED IN 1977.
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Otis: THERE WAS A DOLL
SENT DEPICTING HER,
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AND THE BONDAGE NOT ONLY
MATCHED EXACTLY THE BONDAGE ON
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HER BODY WHEN SHE WAS FOUND
MURDERED, BUT THE SAME COLORS.
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IT WAS
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VERY SHOCKING TO SEE A DOLL
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WITH THE EXACT SAME BONDAGE
FROM 30 YEARS BEFORE.
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Narrator: BTK DELIGHTS
IN THE GRISLY DETAILS
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OF HOW HE CHOSE NANCY,
STALKED HER,
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BROKE INTO HER HOUSE,
AND SUBDUED HER ON HER BED.
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Relph:
"I TOLD HER I HAD A KNIFE
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00:13:16,137 --> 00:13:19,477
"AND DISPLAYED THE MAGNUM
IN MY SHOULDER HOLSTER.
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00:13:19,517 --> 00:13:21,547
"WE TALKED ABOUT SEX
AND THE HARM
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"IF SHE DIDN'T COOPERATE.
289
00:13:23,655 --> 00:13:25,855
"SHE LIT A SMOKE,
AND FINALLY, SHE SAID,
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00:13:25,896 --> 00:13:30,026
"'LET'S GET THIS OVER WITH
SO I CAN CALL THE POLICE.'
291
00:13:30,068 --> 00:13:33,168
"I PULLED DOWN HER PANTIES,
QUICKLY SLIPPED MY BELT OVER
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"HER HEAD AND ONTO THE NECK
293
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"AND PULLED TIGHT --
HER HANDS FOUND MY SCROTUM.
294
00:13:38,103 --> 00:13:40,383
"THIS INCREASED
MY SEXUAL THRILL.
295
00:13:40,413 --> 00:13:42,453
"I SPOKE SOFTLY
INTO HER LEFT EAR.
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"I WAS WANTED FOR THE OTEROS
AND OTHER MURDERS,
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00:13:45,241 --> 00:13:46,381
AND SHE WAS NEXT."
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Peters: FROM A WOMAN'S
PERSPECTIVE, A BARBIE DOLL.
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IT WAS SO FRIGHTENING.
300
00:13:56,172 --> 00:14:01,972
IT WAS LIKE HE WAS TAUNTING
EVERY FEMALE OUT THERE.
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00:14:06,137 --> 00:14:08,827
Gouge: EVERY TIME WE WOULD
GET A NEW PACKAGE,
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00:14:08,862 --> 00:14:13,452
WE WOULD ALWAYS CHECK IT
FOR FINGERPRINTS, DNA,
303
00:14:13,482 --> 00:14:17,832
SALIVA ON THE STAMPS OR ON
THE SEALING OF THE ENVELOPE,
304
00:14:17,862 --> 00:14:22,342
BUT WE WERE NEVER ABLE TO
COLLECT ANY EVIDENCE LIKE THAT.
305
00:14:22,379 --> 00:14:24,789
IT TOLD ME THAT
HE WAS VERY CAREFUL,
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00:14:24,827 --> 00:14:29,897
HAD KNOWLEDGE OF FORENSICS
AND PROBABLY TOOK EXTRA STEPS TO
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00:14:29,931 --> 00:14:33,211
MAKE SURE THAT HIS DNA AND
FINGERPRINTS WEREN'T PRESENT.
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00:14:35,034 --> 00:14:38,344
Narrator: THE NEXT
COMMUNICATION, BTK'S SEVENTH,
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THREATENS TO GO MISSING FOREVER,
COURTESY OF
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A HOME DEPOT AN EMPLOYEE
WHO FINDS SOMETHING STRANGE
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IN THE BED OF HIS TRUCK.
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00:14:46,724 --> 00:14:48,664
Kelly:
HE SAW WHAT LOOKED LIKE TRASH.
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HE TOOK IT OUT, THREW IT IN
THE DUMPSTER OUTSIDE OF
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00:14:51,275 --> 00:14:54,235
HIS HOUSE,
AND WENT ON VACATION.
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00:14:56,103 --> 00:14:59,003
THAT EMPLOYEE DIDN'T REALIZE
THE SIGNIFICANCE,
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00:14:59,034 --> 00:15:02,414
DID NOT RECOGNIZE IT
AS AN IMPORTANT CLUE.
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00:15:02,448 --> 00:15:06,378
Narrator: ON JANUARY 25,
2005, KAKE-TV
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RECEIVES THE KILLER'S
EIGHTH CONTACT, A POSTCARD.
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IT SAYS, "REFERENCE
69th AND 77th STREET
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"NORTH ON SENECA STREET.
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00:15:16,689 --> 00:15:20,139
"CONTENTS -- POST TOASTIES BOX.
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"LET ME KNOW IF YOU OR PD
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"RECEIVED NUMBER SEVEN
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AT HOME DEPOT."
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00:15:28,344 --> 00:15:29,974
Hatteberg: THE POLICE DEPARTMENT
DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING
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00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,830
ABOUT THE PACKAGE
AT HOME DEPOT.
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00:15:32,862 --> 00:15:36,762
Peters: WE IMMEDIATELY WENT
THAT DAY TO THE CORNER OF
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69th AND SENECA STREET AND
FOUND THE POST TOASTIES BOX.
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00:15:40,965 --> 00:15:43,545
THAT'S AN ISOLATED AREA
IN BETWEEN VALLEY CENTER
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AND PARK CITY, AND THIS IS
THE FIRST TIME BTK
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00:15:47,379 --> 00:15:51,279
IS KNOWN TO HAVE MADE A DROP
OUTSIDE WICHITA CITY LIMITS.
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00:15:51,310 --> 00:15:54,520
Kelly: IT APPEARED THAT BTK HAD
A SOPHOMORIC SENSE OF HUMOR,
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00:15:54,551 --> 00:15:57,341
BECAUSE ON THE CEREAL BOX,
HE'D WRITTEN "KILLER,"
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00:15:57,379 --> 00:15:59,379
AS IN SERIAL [ "CEREAL" ]
KILLER.
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00:16:01,275 --> 00:16:04,275
Peters: INSIDE THE POST TOASTIES
BOX WAS ANOTHER BARBIE DOLL,
336
00:16:04,310 --> 00:16:07,450
WHICH WAS EVEN MORE
FRIGHTENING THAN THE FIRST ONE,
337
00:16:07,482 --> 00:16:09,662
BECAUSE THIS ONE WAS
JOSIE OTERO.
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00:16:11,448 --> 00:16:14,168
THIS BARBIE DOLL HAD A NOOSE
AROUND HER NECK,
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00:16:14,206 --> 00:16:17,166
WHICH WAS TIED TO A PIPE
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00:16:17,206 --> 00:16:19,756
JUST LIKE JOSIE OTERO.
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00:16:21,862 --> 00:16:25,622
AS A WOMAN,
IT WAS NOT ONLY HORRIFYING,
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00:16:25,655 --> 00:16:29,095
BUT IT MADE YOU WANT TO GET
SICK TO YOUR STOMACH.
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00:16:30,724 --> 00:16:34,414
WE KNEW THAT HE WAS
CONTINUING TO
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00:16:34,448 --> 00:16:39,308
GET THRILLS, TO BECOME EXCITED
OVER ALL THIS.
345
00:16:39,344 --> 00:16:41,724
WE KNEW HE WAS CAPABLE OF
ANOTHER KILLING.
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00:16:41,758 --> 00:16:45,968
WE KNEW HE WAS CAPABLE
OF THREE MORE KILLINGS,
347
00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,210
AND WE WERE
DEFINITELY AFRAID.
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00:16:52,344 --> 00:16:54,384
Peters: THE POST TOASTIES BOX
WAS FOUND ON
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SENECA STREET BETWEEN 69th
AND 77th STREETS NORTH.
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00:16:58,172 --> 00:17:00,212
Narrator: AT THE SAME TIME
AS THEY ARE RECOVERING
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00:17:00,241 --> 00:17:02,621
THE POST TOASTIES BOX,
KAKE STAFF
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00:17:02,655 --> 00:17:06,065
CONTACT POLICE AND ALERT THEM
TO THE LINE IN BTK'S MOST
353
00:17:06,103 --> 00:17:08,103
RECENT POSTCARD THAT MENTIONS
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00:17:08,137 --> 00:17:11,377
A PACKAGE LEFT EARLIER
AT HOME DEPOT.
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00:17:11,413 --> 00:17:13,973
DETECTIVES ARE MYSTIFIED.
356
00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,100
Otis: WE DIDN'T HAVE
ANY KIND OF A PACKAGE DROP
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00:17:16,137 --> 00:17:18,967
RECOVERED THAT WE KNEW OF
FROM HOME DEPOT.
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00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:20,830
I IMMEDIATELY CALLED
LIEUTENANT LANDWEHR,
359
00:17:20,862 --> 00:17:22,552
AND HE BEGAN
ASSIGNING DETECTIVES
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00:17:22,586 --> 00:17:25,166
TO HIT BOTH HOME DEPOT STORES
IN WICHITA.
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00:17:25,206 --> 00:17:27,206
Narrator: INVESTIGATORS COME
UP EMPTY,
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SO THEY PUT UP NOTICES ASKING
EMPLOYEES TO COME FORWARD IF
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00:17:30,793 --> 00:17:33,143
THEY RECENTLY FOUND
SOMETHING STRANGE.
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00:17:33,172 --> 00:17:35,622
THE NEXT NIGHT, I GET A PHONE
CALL FROM THE 911 DISPATCH
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00:17:35,655 --> 00:17:38,025
CENTER THAT A HOME DEPOT
EMPLOYEE WHO HAD BEEN OUT OF
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TOWN AND RETURNED HOME AND SAW
THE NOTE IN THE BREAK ROOM,
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00:17:41,620 --> 00:17:43,690
AND HE BELIEVED HE HAD
SOMETHING TO REPORT --
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00:17:43,724 --> 00:17:46,034
A CEREAL BOX
IN THE BED OF HIS PICKUP.
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00:17:46,068 --> 00:17:49,238
HE THREW IT IN HIS TRASH,
AND HE BELIEVED
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00:17:49,275 --> 00:17:50,515
THAT WHILE
HE WAS OUT OF TOWN,
371
00:17:50,551 --> 00:17:54,451
THE TRASH HAD BEEN HAULED OFF
AND TAKEN TO THE LANDFILL.
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00:17:54,482 --> 00:17:57,342
I CONTACTED LIEUTENANT
LANDWEHR IMMEDIATELY,
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AND WE STARTED PREPARING
A POLICE RECRUIT CLASS TO START
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00:18:00,896 --> 00:18:02,586
THE NEXT MORNING,
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00:18:02,620 --> 00:18:04,210
DIGGING AROUND
IN A LANDFILL WITH
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00:18:04,241 --> 00:18:06,691
A ONE-IN-A-MILLION CHANCE
OF FINDING THIS BOX.
377
00:18:06,724 --> 00:18:08,694
ABOUT AN HOUR AND A HALF
LATER, I GET A PHONE CALL FROM
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00:18:08,724 --> 00:18:09,764
THE SAME MAN, AND HE SAID,
379
00:18:09,793 --> 00:18:11,623
"I'M SORRY,
THE BOX IS STILL HERE,
380
00:18:11,655 --> 00:18:12,855
AND I HAVE IT IN MY KITCHEN."
381
00:18:15,586 --> 00:18:18,716
WELL, THAT EMPLOYEE HAD
NOT TAKEN HIS TRASH OUT
382
00:18:18,758 --> 00:18:20,208
TO THE CURB,
SO IT WAS STILL THERE,
383
00:18:20,241 --> 00:18:22,861
LIKE, A WEEK LATER,
FORTUNATELY.
384
00:18:22,896 --> 00:18:25,236
IF THAT BOX WOULD
HAVE MADE THE LANDFILL,
385
00:18:25,275 --> 00:18:27,515
THE ODDS OF RECOVERING IT
386
00:18:27,551 --> 00:18:29,831
WOULD HAVE BEEN ASTRONOMICAL.
387
00:18:29,862 --> 00:18:31,792
THE FACT THAT
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00:18:31,827 --> 00:18:33,617
THIS GENTLEMAN PUT IT IN
THE TRASH AND THEN DIDN'T
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00:18:33,655 --> 00:18:35,825
HAUL IT TO THE STREET WAS
CERTAINLY IN OUR FAVOR.
390
00:18:37,620 --> 00:18:39,720
Kelly: THE CEREAL BOX WAS
A REAL TURNING POINT
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00:18:39,758 --> 00:18:40,968
IN THE INVESTIGATION.
392
00:18:42,827 --> 00:18:45,237
Otis: INSIDE OF THAT CEREAL BOX
WERE SEVERAL ITEMS,
393
00:18:45,275 --> 00:18:47,995
BUT ONE OF THEM WAS
A POSTCARD-SIZED WRITING,
394
00:18:49,482 --> 00:18:52,242
AND ON THE BOTTOM OF IT,
BTK ASKED...
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00:18:52,275 --> 00:18:53,965
"CAN I COMMUNICATE WITH FLOPPY
AND NOT BE TRACED
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00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,100
TO A COMPUTER --
BE HONEST."
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00:18:58,862 --> 00:19:01,522
Otis: I BELIEVED THAT
THIS WAS ANOTHER TRICK.
398
00:19:01,551 --> 00:19:05,311
MY FEAR WAS THAT HE WOULD
SEND US A FLOPPY DISK,
399
00:19:05,344 --> 00:19:07,934
KNOWING THAT WE COULD GET
INFORMATION FROM IT,
400
00:19:07,965 --> 00:19:10,965
THAT IT WOULD LEAD US TO MAYBE
A FALSE SUSPECT,
401
00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:12,620
AND THEN HE'D KNOW
WE LIED TO HIM.
402
00:19:16,344 --> 00:19:18,834
Narrator: OFFICERS DESCEND
ON HOME DEPOT TO
403
00:19:18,862 --> 00:19:21,522
REVIEW THEIR PARKING LOT
SURVEILLANCE FOOTAGE.
404
00:19:21,551 --> 00:19:24,001
Gouge: THIS IS POSSIBLY
THE OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO
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00:19:24,034 --> 00:19:27,484
ACTUALLY GET A LOOK AT BTK.
406
00:19:27,517 --> 00:19:30,517
BECAUSE NOW THAT WE HAVE
THE EMPLOYEE, AND WE KNEW WHAT
407
00:19:30,551 --> 00:19:33,521
TIME HE GOT OFF AND WHERE HE
PARKED, WE STARTED LOOKING AT
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00:19:33,551 --> 00:19:35,901
THE SURVEILLANCE VIDEO FROM
THE TIME OF THE DROP.
409
00:19:37,965 --> 00:19:41,165
THE VIDEO WAS VERY GRAINY,
AND THE EMPLOYEE WAS PARKED WAY
410
00:19:41,206 --> 00:19:42,336
FAR AWAY FROM THE STORE.
411
00:19:42,379 --> 00:19:46,209
AND YOU CAN SEE WHAT APPEARS
TO BE A PERSON,
412
00:19:46,241 --> 00:19:48,551
BUT IT LOOKS LIKE
A STICK FIGURE.
413
00:19:48,586 --> 00:19:50,206
NO MATTER HOW HARD
YOU STARE AT,
414
00:19:50,241 --> 00:19:53,411
NO MATTER HOW LONG
YOU LOOK AT IT,
415
00:19:53,448 --> 00:19:56,138
AND NO MATTER HOW MUCH
YOU WANT TO BE
416
00:19:56,172 --> 00:19:59,452
ABLE TO TELL SOMETHING MORE
ABOUT THE PERSON, YOU CAN'T.
417
00:19:59,482 --> 00:20:01,452
Otis: YOU COULD SEE
418
00:20:01,482 --> 00:20:04,932
A BLOBBY FIGURE GET OUT OF
THE SUV AND STAND
419
00:20:04,965 --> 00:20:06,755
AT THE BACK OF THE PICKUP
FOR A SHORT TIME.
420
00:20:08,137 --> 00:20:10,827
THERE WAS NO WAY TO IDENTIFY
THE PERSON THAT GOT OUT,
421
00:20:10,862 --> 00:20:12,522
BUT THERE WAS NO DOUBT THAT
IT WAS BTK.
422
00:20:16,379 --> 00:20:19,309
Narrator: CAREFUL ANALYSIS OF
THE VIDEO DETERMINES THE VEHICLE
423
00:20:19,344 --> 00:20:23,764
THE SUSPECT WAS DRIVING IS
SPECIFICALLY A JEEP CHEROKEE.
424
00:20:23,793 --> 00:20:26,553
THIS WAS TRULY
THE FIRST PIECE OF EVIDENCE
425
00:20:26,586 --> 00:20:29,586
WE HAD THAT BTK
DIDN'T GIVE US.
426
00:20:31,448 --> 00:20:33,028
ALL OF THE EVIDENCE
WE WERE WORKING WITH
427
00:20:33,068 --> 00:20:35,478
DURING THE TASK FORCE TIMES
428
00:20:35,517 --> 00:20:38,477
WAS GIVEN TO US BY BTK.
429
00:20:38,517 --> 00:20:41,757
THIS WAS THE FIRST PIECE OF
EVIDENCE WE HAD
430
00:20:41,793 --> 00:20:45,033
THAT BTK DIDN'T KNOW
WE HAD.
431
00:20:45,068 --> 00:20:47,378
Narrator: THIS REVELATION,
TOGETHER WITH THE KILLER'S
432
00:20:47,413 --> 00:20:49,553
INQUIRY ABOUT SENDING
A FLOPPY DISK,
433
00:20:49,586 --> 00:20:52,826
INSPIRES BOTH HOPE AND CAUTION
IN THE TASK FORCE.
434
00:20:55,206 --> 00:20:57,236
Gouge: IF THERE'S A FILE
ON A FLOPPY DISK,
435
00:20:57,275 --> 00:21:01,715
THERE'S GONNA BE INFORMATION
THAT A COMPUTER FORENSIC EXPERT
436
00:21:01,758 --> 00:21:05,618
WILL BE ABLE TO EXTRACT TO HELP
IDENTIFY AT LEAST THE LOCATION
437
00:21:05,655 --> 00:21:08,305
OR THE COMPUTER THAT WAS USED
TO WRITE THAT FILE.
438
00:21:10,206 --> 00:21:14,966
BTK ASKED US TO BE HONEST IN
OUR RESPONSE IN THE NEWSPAPER,
439
00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:18,620
AND THE RESPONSE WAS TO BE,
"REX, IT'LL BE OKAY."
440
00:21:18,655 --> 00:21:22,165
AND SO WE PUT THAT AD
IN THE PAPER FOR A WEEK,
441
00:21:24,448 --> 00:21:25,928
AND THEN THE WAITING
GAME STARTED.
442
00:21:28,551 --> 00:21:30,661
Narrator:
LESS THAN TWO WEEKS LATER,
443
00:21:30,689 --> 00:21:35,449
A SUSPICIOUS PACKAGE ARRIVES
AT ANOTHER WICHITA TV STATION,
444
00:21:35,482 --> 00:21:37,102
KSAS-TV.
445
00:21:38,758 --> 00:21:42,168
IT WAS A SMALL ENVELOPE --
IT HAS A FEW THINGS IN THERE,
446
00:21:42,206 --> 00:21:44,656
SOME MORE JEWELRY THAT WOULD
BE FROM A VICTIM
447
00:21:44,689 --> 00:21:46,099
FROM BACK IN THE DAY,
448
00:21:46,137 --> 00:21:47,967
AND THEN THERE'S
A PURPLE FLOPPY DISK.
449
00:21:50,965 --> 00:21:52,925
Gouge: I THOUGHT,
THIS IS FANTASTIC.
450
00:21:52,965 --> 00:21:56,375
I CAN'T WAIT TO GIVE THIS TO
OUR COMPUTER FORENSICS EXPERT,
451
00:21:56,413 --> 00:21:58,413
AND OUR FORENSIC COMPUTER GUY
SAID, WELL,
452
00:21:58,448 --> 00:22:00,618
THE FIRST THING WE NEED
TO DO IS X-RAY IT,
453
00:22:00,655 --> 00:22:01,855
BECAUSE WE WANT
TO MAKE SURE IT
454
00:22:01,896 --> 00:22:04,996
DOESN'T HAVE SOME KIND OF
EXPLOSIVE OR SOME KIND OF
455
00:22:05,034 --> 00:22:06,594
AN INCENDIARY DEVICE.
456
00:22:06,620 --> 00:22:09,310
WE ALL THOUGHT THAT
THAT WAS BTK'S SPEED,
457
00:22:09,344 --> 00:22:10,724
THAT HE WAS THAT SMART.
458
00:22:12,068 --> 00:22:14,028
AND THEN
THE FORENSIC COMPUTER GUY SAID,
459
00:22:14,068 --> 00:22:16,238
WE'RE GONNA PUT IT IN
A NON-NETWORKED COMPUTER,
460
00:22:16,275 --> 00:22:18,685
IN CASE IT'S FULL OF A VIRUS,
461
00:22:18,724 --> 00:22:21,934
AND WE'LL USE SOME FORENSIC
SOFTWARE TO GET INTO WHATEVER
462
00:22:21,965 --> 00:22:24,335
IS ON THAT DISK AND SEE
WHERE IT LEADS US.
463
00:22:26,241 --> 00:22:28,281
Relph: THE TWO THINGS THAT --
THAT SHOT OUT IMMEDIATELY
464
00:22:28,310 --> 00:22:30,620
WAS THAT THE DISK
HAD BEEN IN A COMPUTER
465
00:22:30,655 --> 00:22:34,965
IN PARK CITY AND ALSO IN
A CHRIST LUTHERAN CHURCH.
466
00:22:36,068 --> 00:22:38,448
Gouge: THE FILE THAT WAS
ON IT HAD BEEN PRINTED
467
00:22:38,482 --> 00:22:40,172
BY A USER NAMED DENNIS.
468
00:22:42,448 --> 00:22:44,618
WENT TO -- I THINK IT WAS
A GOOGLE SEARCH
469
00:22:44,655 --> 00:22:46,655
AND FOUND CHRIST
LUTHERAN CHURCH,
470
00:22:46,689 --> 00:22:48,929
AND WHEN HE CLICKED
ON THE OFFICERS,
471
00:22:48,965 --> 00:22:51,065
THERE WAS A PICTURE OF A MAN
NAMED DENNIS RADER,
472
00:22:51,103 --> 00:22:53,033
AND HE WAS
THE CONGREGATIONAL PRESIDENT.
473
00:22:55,241 --> 00:22:57,791
Relph: DENNIS RADER,
CHRIST LUTHERAN CHURCH,
474
00:22:57,827 --> 00:23:00,277
WERE BROUGHT TOGETHER --
BY THAT POINT,
475
00:23:00,310 --> 00:23:03,550
EVERYBODY KNEW THIS WAS --
THIS WAS THE DOMINO
476
00:23:03,586 --> 00:23:04,826
THAT WAS GONNA START IT ALL.
477
00:23:04,862 --> 00:23:08,862
ANOTHER DETECTIVE LOOKS UP
DENNIS RADER'S ADDRESS,
478
00:23:08,896 --> 00:23:11,686
AND THEN WE DROVE
TO PARK CITY
479
00:23:11,724 --> 00:23:12,934
AS FAST AS WE COULD.
480
00:23:16,137 --> 00:23:17,717
Otis: THERE WAS A BLACK
JEEP CHEROKEE IN THE DRIVEWAY.
481
00:23:17,758 --> 00:23:22,858
♪♪
482
00:23:22,896 --> 00:23:24,446
AND THEN IT WAS ON.
483
00:23:24,482 --> 00:23:26,102
IT WAS GAME ON.
484
00:23:26,137 --> 00:23:29,207
♪♪
485
00:23:33,137 --> 00:23:36,307
Narrator: INVESTIGATORS HAVE
TRACKED BTK SUSPECT,
486
00:23:36,344 --> 00:23:39,524
DENNIS RADER,
TO HIS HOME IN PARK CITY.
487
00:23:39,551 --> 00:23:41,101
Relph: I CALLED KENNY,
AND I SAID, YOU KNOW,
488
00:23:41,137 --> 00:23:43,617
CALL EVERY POLICEMAN ON DUTY.
THAT GUY'S 100 FEET AWAY,
489
00:23:43,655 --> 00:23:45,165
I'LL GO RIP THAT DOOR OFF
THE HINGES RIGHT NOW,
490
00:23:45,206 --> 00:23:46,406
'CAUSE WE CAUGHT HIM.
491
00:23:46,448 --> 00:23:49,478
Narrator: BUT LIEUTENANT
LANDWEHR CALLS OFF HIS TROOPS,
492
00:23:49,517 --> 00:23:53,757
PUTS DENNIS RADER UNDER 24-HOUR
SURVEILLANCE, AND MAKES IT
493
00:23:53,793 --> 00:23:57,723
A PRIORITY TO GET THE SUSPECT'S
DNA FOR COMPARISON.
494
00:23:57,758 --> 00:24:01,238
THEY TURN
TO A SURPRISING SOURCE.
495
00:24:01,275 --> 00:24:03,405
Rawson: I HAD ATTENDED
COLLEGE AT KANSAS STATE.
496
00:24:03,448 --> 00:24:05,998
SOME DETECTIVES HAD GONE
TO KANSAS STATE,
497
00:24:06,034 --> 00:24:09,074
TO THE HEALTH CENTER
AND HAD, UM,
498
00:24:09,103 --> 00:24:12,003
GOTTEN A WARRANT
FOR MY MEDICAL RECORDS.
499
00:24:13,896 --> 00:24:15,756
THEY FOUND OUT I HAD HAD
500
00:24:15,793 --> 00:24:18,413
SLIDES OF, LIKE, A PAP SMEAR,
501
00:24:18,448 --> 00:24:21,658
AND THEN GOT MY DNA
OUT OF THAT.
502
00:24:21,689 --> 00:24:23,999
I RECALL IT AS BEING
THE LONGEST
503
00:24:24,034 --> 00:24:25,384
TWO DAYS IN THE WORLD.
504
00:24:27,344 --> 00:24:28,484
Otis: AND I'LL NEVER FORGET,
505
00:24:28,517 --> 00:24:30,517
THE LIEUTENANT CALLED ME
AND SAID, "GOT THE DNA BACK.
506
00:24:30,551 --> 00:24:32,031
"IT'S HIM.
507
00:24:32,068 --> 00:24:35,338
WE'RE GONNA COME IN IN
THE MORNING AND START UP."
508
00:24:35,379 --> 00:24:36,449
THERE WAS NO WAY
I WAS STAYING HOME.
509
00:24:38,310 --> 00:24:40,030
THERE WAS NOTHING TO DO.
I WASN'T GONNA SLEEP.
510
00:24:41,793 --> 00:24:45,723
SO I'LL GO UP AND CONTINUE TO
WORK AND GET READY FOR THIS.
511
00:24:45,758 --> 00:24:46,718
I PULL INTO THE BUILDING,
512
00:24:46,758 --> 00:24:48,138
I GO UP TO
OUR TASK FORCE OFFICE,
513
00:24:48,172 --> 00:24:49,552
I WALK IN,
AND EVERYBODY'S THERE.
514
00:24:53,620 --> 00:24:54,660
NOBODY STAYED HOME.
515
00:24:56,620 --> 00:24:58,660
AND JUST THAT LITTLE MOMENT,
LITTLE MOMENTS LIKE THAT,
516
00:24:58,689 --> 00:25:02,449
IT WAS FINALLY OVER,
BECAUSE IT WAS A LONG TIME,
517
00:25:02,482 --> 00:25:03,522
HAD BEEN A LONG RUN.
518
00:25:03,551 --> 00:25:11,591
♪♪
519
00:25:11,620 --> 00:25:15,030
Gouge: INITIALLY, THE DEPARTMENT
WANTED THE SWAT TEAM TO
520
00:25:15,068 --> 00:25:16,238
ARREST DENNIS RADER,
521
00:25:16,275 --> 00:25:19,755
BUT WE HAD BEEN WORKING ON
THIS CASE FOR ABOUT A YEAR.
522
00:25:19,793 --> 00:25:21,103
WE HAD A LOT INVESTED IN IT.
523
00:25:21,137 --> 00:25:25,277
WE ARE COPS, AND WE'VE
ARRESTED MURDERERS IN THE PAST.
524
00:25:25,310 --> 00:25:27,590
WE WERE QUALIFIED TO ACTUALLY
DO THIS ARREST.
525
00:25:27,620 --> 00:25:29,240
LIEUTENANT LANDWEHR LOOKED
AT THE CHIEF AND SAID,
526
00:25:29,275 --> 00:25:31,995
"MY GUYS WANT TO TAKE HIM," AND
THE CHIEF SAID, "GO GET HIM."
527
00:25:33,482 --> 00:25:36,342
ONCE WE IDENTIFIED RADER
AS THE KILLER,
528
00:25:36,379 --> 00:25:38,689
WE LEARNED THAT HE WAS
A COMPLIANCE OFFICER.
529
00:25:38,724 --> 00:25:40,594
HE WAS KIND OF
A JACK-OF-ALL-TRADES
530
00:25:40,620 --> 00:25:43,550
WHEN IT CAME TO INSPECTIONS
FOR THE CITY OF PARK CITY.
531
00:25:43,586 --> 00:25:45,686
HIS OFFICE WAS
IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT,
532
00:25:45,724 --> 00:25:48,074
SO WE COULDN'T TELL ANYBODY IN
THE CITY OF PARK CITY
533
00:25:48,103 --> 00:25:49,523
WHAT WE WERE DOING,
BECAUSE WE DIDN'T KNOW
534
00:25:49,551 --> 00:25:50,971
WHO HE WAS TIGHT WITH.
535
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:52,970
IF WE TOLD THE MAYOR,
IF THE MAYOR WOULD TELL ONE
536
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,550
MORE PERSON, AND THEN
DENNIS RADER WOULD FIND OUT.
537
00:25:55,586 --> 00:25:57,166
SO WE DECIDED
WE'RE NOT TELLING ANYBODY.
538
00:26:01,413 --> 00:26:04,143
Relph: WE ALL GOT READY,
AND GOD,
539
00:26:04,172 --> 00:26:06,592
THERE WAS ALL KINDS OF
PHASES OF PLANNING, MAN.
540
00:26:06,620 --> 00:26:07,660
THEY WERE GONNA HAVE A PLANE
541
00:26:07,689 --> 00:26:09,279
AND ALL KINDS OF CRAZY [BLEEP].
542
00:26:09,310 --> 00:26:11,520
I MEAN, GOD, WE HAD A TANK --
I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE WERE DOING
543
00:26:11,551 --> 00:26:14,691
WITH A TANK, BUT, UH, UM --
WE HAD A HELICOPTER.
544
00:26:14,724 --> 00:26:17,074
I DIDN'T KNOW IF WE WERE GONNA
ARREST SOMEBODY OR INVADE
545
00:26:17,103 --> 00:26:18,723
A SMALL COUNTRY,
BUT WE WERE READY,
546
00:26:18,758 --> 00:26:20,238
AND I DON'T CARE
IF HE WAS JAMES BOND,
547
00:26:20,275 --> 00:26:21,305
HE WASN'T GONNA
GET AWAY FROM US.
548
00:26:25,689 --> 00:26:28,239
SO WE GOT IN OUR POSITIONS,
AND WE --
549
00:26:28,275 --> 00:26:30,785
WE HEARD HE WAS JUST GOING --
WE WERE PARKED ON --
550
00:26:30,827 --> 00:26:32,757
RIGHT BESIDE A FRONTAGE ROAD
551
00:26:32,793 --> 00:26:34,213
THAT HE CAME DOWN EVERY DAY,
BECAUSE HE GOES HOME
552
00:26:34,241 --> 00:26:35,341
EVERY DAY FOR LUNCH.
553
00:26:35,379 --> 00:26:39,339
[ SIRENS WAILING ]
554
00:26:39,379 --> 00:26:42,239
[ SIRENS WAILING ]
555
00:26:42,275 --> 00:26:44,405
Otis: UNIFORMED OFFICERS
PULLED HIM OVER.
556
00:26:44,448 --> 00:26:46,758
BY THE TIME DENNIS RADER
PUT HIS TRUCK IN PARK,
557
00:26:46,793 --> 00:26:48,343
THERE WERE DETECTIVES
AT HIS DOOR.
558
00:26:50,172 --> 00:26:52,032
Gouge:
WE HAD THIS GUY IN CUSTODY.
559
00:26:53,586 --> 00:26:55,656
IT WAS SO EXCITING THAT I WAS
560
00:26:55,689 --> 00:26:58,759
SELECTED TO PUT
THE HANDCUFFS ON HIM.
561
00:27:00,413 --> 00:27:03,073
SEARCHED HIM,
STOOD HIM UP,
562
00:27:03,103 --> 00:27:05,483
AND HE LOOKED AT US
AND SAID,
563
00:27:05,517 --> 00:27:08,477
"WOULD YOU PLEASE TELL MY WIFE
I'LL BE LATE FOR LUNCH?
564
00:27:08,517 --> 00:27:10,447
I ASSUME YOU KNOW
WHERE I LIVE."
565
00:27:10,482 --> 00:27:12,972
Narrator: THE SUSPECT IS LED
TO A CAR WHICH HAS BEEN WIRED
566
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,340
WITH CAMERAS AND WHERE
LIEUTENANT KEN LANDWEHR
567
00:27:16,379 --> 00:27:17,829
WAITS TO MEET HIM.
568
00:27:17,862 --> 00:27:19,522
Relph: BUT HE DIDN'T ASK,
WHY DID SOMEBODY
569
00:27:19,551 --> 00:27:20,551
JUST PULL ME OUT OF MY TRUCK?
570
00:27:20,586 --> 00:27:23,166
WHY IS SOME -- A BOOT IS
ON MY NECK, AND HE SAID,
571
00:27:23,206 --> 00:27:25,276
"HELLO, MR. LANDWEHR."
572
00:27:25,310 --> 00:27:27,170
RIGHT THEN,
IT WAS OVER FOR SURE.
573
00:27:27,206 --> 00:27:28,966
WE KNEW WE HAD HIM.
574
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:30,380
FROM THE TIME
WE PUT HIM IN THE CAR,
575
00:27:30,413 --> 00:27:32,483
WE WENT FLYIN'.
576
00:27:32,517 --> 00:27:34,277
WE DIDN'T STOP
TILL WE WERE DEEP
577
00:27:34,310 --> 00:27:36,660
INTO THE BASEMENT
OF THE EPIC CENTER.
578
00:27:36,689 --> 00:27:39,279
Narrator: DENNIS RADER'S
DNA IS COLLECTED.
579
00:27:39,310 --> 00:27:42,140
HE'S INTERROGATED
FOR OVER 30 HOURS
580
00:27:42,172 --> 00:27:44,722
WHILE OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT
WATCH REMOTELY.
581
00:28:02,137 --> 00:28:04,477
Gouge: THE INTERVIEW WAS STARTED
BY LIEUTENANT LANDWEHR
582
00:28:04,517 --> 00:28:06,207
AND THE FBI AGENT,
583
00:28:06,241 --> 00:28:08,481
AND THERE WAS A LOT OF
JUST TALKING
584
00:28:08,517 --> 00:28:11,137
BACK AND FORTH WITH HIM,
GENERAL CONVERSATIONS ABOUT
585
00:28:11,172 --> 00:28:15,412
WHO HE WAS BEFORE HE'S FINALLY
ACTUALLY CONFRONTED.
586
00:28:16,620 --> 00:28:20,070
LANDWEHR SHOWS HIM
THE FLOPPY DISK AND EXPLAINS
587
00:28:20,103 --> 00:28:23,413
TO HIM HOW COMPUTER FORENSICS
EXPERTS WERE ABLE TO
588
00:28:23,448 --> 00:28:25,168
IDENTIFY HIM.
589
00:28:25,206 --> 00:28:28,066
HE WAS REALLY KIND OF
UPSET ABOUT THAT,
590
00:28:28,103 --> 00:28:31,243
AND HE INTERRUPTED LANDWEHR
AND SAID,
591
00:28:31,275 --> 00:28:33,335
"WHY DID YOU LIE TO ME?"
592
00:28:38,482 --> 00:28:41,002
AND LANDWEHR'S LIKE,
WELL, YOU KNOW,
593
00:28:41,034 --> 00:28:42,314
I WAS TRYING TO CATCH YOU.
594
00:28:43,689 --> 00:28:46,789
THAT WAS AMAZING TO ME.
595
00:28:46,827 --> 00:28:48,787
RADER THOUGHT THAT LANDWEHR WAS
596
00:28:48,827 --> 00:28:50,827
DOING THIS FOR THE FUN OF IT,
597
00:28:50,862 --> 00:28:53,452
THAT THEY HAD
A GOOD THING GOING.
598
00:28:53,482 --> 00:28:56,032
IT WASN'T LONG AFTER THAT
THAT THE FBI AGENT SAID,
599
00:28:56,068 --> 00:28:57,208
"JUST TELL US WHO YOU ARE."
600
00:28:58,724 --> 00:29:01,624
AND HE SAID, "I'M BTK,"
AND THEN HE REPEATED IT.
601
00:29:01,655 --> 00:29:09,965
♪♪
602
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,310
Rawson: I AM THE DAUGHTER
OF DENNIS RADER,
603
00:29:12,344 --> 00:29:16,144
WHO IS OTHERWISE KNOWN
AS THE BTK SERIAL KILLER,
604
00:29:16,172 --> 00:29:19,382
WHO MURDERED 10 INNOCENT PEOPLE
IN THE DECADES
605
00:29:19,413 --> 00:29:21,383
BETWEEN THE '70s AND THE '90s.
606
00:29:21,413 --> 00:29:28,623
♪♪
607
00:29:28,655 --> 00:29:31,235
Rawson: I MET MY HUSBAND,
DARIAN, IN 1998.
608
00:29:31,275 --> 00:29:33,965
I WAS A JUNIOR IN COLLEGE,
AND HE WAS A FRESHMAN.
609
00:29:35,448 --> 00:29:38,238
WE DATED FOR THREE YEARS,
AND THEN WE GOT ENGAGED,
610
00:29:38,275 --> 00:29:41,235
AND WE GOT MARRIED
IN THE SUMMER OF 2003.
611
00:29:42,965 --> 00:29:44,755
MY DAD HELPED US
MOVE TO MICHIGAN,
612
00:29:44,793 --> 00:29:46,213
AND THAT'S WHERE
I STARTED SUBSTITUTE TEACHING
613
00:29:46,241 --> 00:29:47,971
IN THE FALL OF 2004.
614
00:29:55,413 --> 00:29:58,523
[ KNOCK ON DOOR ]
615
00:29:58,551 --> 00:30:00,001
I HEARD A KNOCK ON MY DOOR,
616
00:30:00,034 --> 00:30:02,554
AND SO, LIKE,
I BARELY OPENED THE DOOR,
617
00:30:02,586 --> 00:30:04,476
BECAUSE MY DAD HAD ALWAYS, LIKE,
618
00:30:04,517 --> 00:30:06,137
TAUGHT ME TO BE
WARY OF STRANGERS,
619
00:30:06,172 --> 00:30:11,242
BE CAREFUL WITH, LIKE, PEOPLE
TRYING TO COME INTO YOUR HOUSE.
620
00:30:11,275 --> 00:30:12,965
HE SAID HE WAS THE FBI.
621
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,100
HE'S LIKE,
"ARE YOU KERRI RAWSON?
622
00:30:15,137 --> 00:30:16,337
"IS YOUR DAD DENNIS RADER?
623
00:30:16,379 --> 00:30:17,549
ARE YOU FROM WICHITA?"
624
00:30:17,586 --> 00:30:18,856
AND I WAS LIKE, "YES."
625
00:30:18,896 --> 00:30:22,966
AND THEN HE'S LIKE,
"YOUR DAD IS BTK."
626
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,660
AND THAT'S WHEN, LIKE,
THIS MASSIVE DISCONNECT
627
00:30:25,689 --> 00:30:30,789
JUST SORT OF, LIKE, HITS,
AND I GO INTO SHOCK.
628
00:30:30,827 --> 00:30:34,687
AND I'M NOT REALLY COMPREHENDING
WHAT HE'S TRYING TO SAY.
629
00:30:34,724 --> 00:30:36,664
AND SO IT'S SORT OF LIKE TIME
WAS STARTING TO, LIKE,
630
00:30:36,689 --> 00:30:38,859
CUT IN AND OUT FOR ME.
631
00:30:38,896 --> 00:30:41,376
WHILE THE FBI AGENT
WAS INTERVIEWING ME,
632
00:30:41,413 --> 00:30:45,313
MY HUSBAND WAS RIGHT NEXT TO ME
THE WHOLE TIME HOLDING MY HAND.
633
00:30:45,344 --> 00:30:47,484
IT WAS JUST VERY INTENSE.
634
00:30:47,517 --> 00:30:49,137
LIKE, YOU'RE OUT OF YOUR BODY.
635
00:30:49,172 --> 00:30:51,762
YOU'RE JUST IN SHOCK,
AND YOU'RE JUST CONFUSED.
636
00:30:51,793 --> 00:30:55,723
NOTHING'S RIGHT,
AND EVERYTHING'S JUST CRAZY.
637
00:30:55,758 --> 00:30:58,518
Narrator: AT THE SAME TIME,
BACK IN KANSAS,
638
00:30:58,551 --> 00:31:02,551
KERRI'S MOTHER IS ALSO GETTING
THE DEVASTATING NEWS.
639
00:31:02,586 --> 00:31:06,096
Otis: DENNIS RADER'S WIFE
WAS INITIALLY
640
00:31:06,137 --> 00:31:09,337
COMPLETELY DEFENSIVE OF HIM.
641
00:31:09,379 --> 00:31:11,719
"THERE'S NO WAY.
YOU GOT THE WRONG GUY."
642
00:31:11,758 --> 00:31:14,278
SHE WAS VERY, VERY ANGRY
AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT
643
00:31:14,310 --> 00:31:17,170
AND US FOR ARRESTING
HER HUSBAND.
644
00:31:20,034 --> 00:31:22,794
Rawson: ONE OF MY BIGGEST FEARS
WAS HOME INVASION,
645
00:31:22,827 --> 00:31:26,927
SO, HERE'S THIS VERY SURREAL
MOMENT OF THIS STRANGER
646
00:31:26,965 --> 00:31:29,925
IN YOUR HOUSE NOW NOTIFYING YOU
THAT YOUR DAD
647
00:31:29,965 --> 00:31:32,825
IS SOMEBODY
THAT INVADED PEOPLE'S HOMES.
648
00:31:32,862 --> 00:31:35,902
BUT IT, LIKE -- IT CLICKED
THAT OUR NEIGHBOR,
649
00:31:35,931 --> 00:31:38,931
MRS. HEDGE, HAD BEEN MURDERED,
650
00:31:38,965 --> 00:31:41,545
AND SO I TOLD THE AGENT
WHEN I WAS 6,
651
00:31:41,586 --> 00:31:44,096
MRS. HEDGE WAS STRANGLED,
652
00:31:44,137 --> 00:31:47,237
AND THEN IN MY HEAD, IT ROLLS --
BTK STRANGLES WOMEN,
653
00:31:47,275 --> 00:31:49,855
'CAUSE I KNEW THAT
FROM READING ABOUT HIM.
654
00:31:49,896 --> 00:31:53,856
AND IT WAS LIKE SOMETHING
DEEP SUNK IN ME
655
00:31:53,896 --> 00:31:57,406
THAT IT COULD BE MY DAD.
656
00:31:57,448 --> 00:31:59,658
BECAUSE I HAD A MEMORY OF,
657
00:31:59,689 --> 00:32:01,929
LIKE, SLEEPING WITH MY MOM
IN THE BED
658
00:32:01,965 --> 00:32:05,065
'CAUSE OF A THUNDERSTORM AND I
KNEW MY DAD WAS GONE THAT NIGHT.
659
00:32:05,103 --> 00:32:06,763
AND SO I TOLD THE AGENT,
660
00:32:06,793 --> 00:32:10,383
"I DON'T THINK MRS. HEDGE'S
MURDER'S EVER BEEN SOLVED."
661
00:32:10,413 --> 00:32:13,763
AND I SAID,
"I DON'T -- MY DAD WASN'T HOME."
662
00:32:15,827 --> 00:32:19,617
BEFORE MY FATHER'S ARREST,
HE WAS WANTED FOR EIGHT MURDERS,
663
00:32:19,655 --> 00:32:21,715
SO NOW I'M SITTING HERE
664
00:32:21,758 --> 00:32:24,548
BASICALLY GIVING THEM
A NINTH MURDER.
665
00:32:24,586 --> 00:32:26,306
I FELT LIKE I WAS
TURNING IN MY FATHER.
666
00:32:32,862 --> 00:32:36,212
Man: THIS IS KAKE NEWS,
STATION OF THE YEAR.
667
00:32:37,724 --> 00:32:40,004
Peters: A QUARTER-CENTURY
SEARCH FOR WICHITA'S
668
00:32:40,034 --> 00:32:42,974
WORST SERIAL KILLER
IS OVER.
669
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,900
POLICE CONFIRMING TODAY, THEY
HAVE MADE AN ARREST OF BTK.
670
00:32:46,931 --> 00:32:49,171
GOOD EVENING, IT IS A DAY
THAT WILL GO DOWN IN
671
00:32:49,206 --> 00:32:50,516
WICHITA HISTORY.
672
00:32:50,551 --> 00:32:54,171
THE BTK MURDER MYSTERY MAY
BE NEARING AN END.
673
00:32:54,206 --> 00:32:55,926
THAT'S RIGHT.
WICHITA POLICE AND CITY LEADERS
674
00:32:55,965 --> 00:32:58,235
CONFIRMING TODAY THAT A PERSON
OF INTEREST TAKEN IN
675
00:32:58,275 --> 00:33:01,545
FOR QUESTIONING YESTERDAY
IS IN FACT BTK.
676
00:33:01,586 --> 00:33:03,306
Man:
WE KNOW HE'S 59 YEARS OLD,
677
00:33:03,344 --> 00:33:05,664
HE'S MARRIED
WITH TWO GROWN CHILDREN,
678
00:33:05,689 --> 00:33:07,929
AND HE WAS THE PARK CITY
COMPLIANCE OFFICER,
679
00:33:07,965 --> 00:33:09,855
AND HE LISTED AS HIS HOBBIES,
680
00:33:09,896 --> 00:33:14,166
"RAISING HIS CHILDREN,
SCOUTING, AND GARDENING,"
681
00:33:14,206 --> 00:33:16,856
AND NOW EVERYBODY IS
JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT
682
00:33:16,896 --> 00:33:18,586
HOW THE MAN THEY KNEW
683
00:33:18,620 --> 00:33:20,690
AS THE PRESIDENT OF
THE CONGREGATION AT THIS CHURCH
684
00:33:20,724 --> 00:33:23,454
COULD POSSIBLY BE BTK.
685
00:33:23,482 --> 00:33:25,142
Peters: ONE OF OUR EMPLOYEES
WAS A MEMBER OF
686
00:33:25,172 --> 00:33:27,032
CHRIST LUTHERAN.
687
00:33:27,068 --> 00:33:31,098
COUPLE OF MONTHS BEFORE BTK
WAS CAUGHT, THIS EMPLOYEE SAID,
688
00:33:31,137 --> 00:33:33,997
"THERE'S A GROUP FROM CHRIST
LUTHERAN THAT WANTS A TOUR OF
689
00:33:34,034 --> 00:33:36,174
THE STUDIO."
WE HAD SEVERAL TOURS.
690
00:33:36,206 --> 00:33:38,166
WE HAD PEOPLE WHO SAT
IN ON THE NEWSCAST.
691
00:33:38,206 --> 00:33:40,656
WE HAD PEOPLE
WHO TOOK PICTURES.
692
00:33:40,689 --> 00:33:43,239
THIS EMPLOYEE WALKS INTO
THE NEWSROOM
693
00:33:43,275 --> 00:33:44,755
THE DAY BTK WAS CAUGHT,
694
00:33:46,448 --> 00:33:52,548
WIDE-EYED LIKE THIS,
AND SAYS, "OH MY GOSH,
695
00:33:52,586 --> 00:33:56,446
"BTK WAS A MEMBER
OF THE TOUR GROUP.
696
00:33:56,482 --> 00:34:01,722
"HE WAS IN OUR STUDIO
WATCHING THE NEWS.
697
00:34:01,758 --> 00:34:05,098
HE WAS 5 FEET FROM US."
698
00:34:05,137 --> 00:34:08,337
MY HEART WENT TO MY STOMACH.
699
00:34:08,379 --> 00:34:10,169
THE REALIZATION
700
00:34:10,206 --> 00:34:12,856
THAT HE HAD BEEN
701
00:34:12,896 --> 00:34:14,476
A FEW FEET FROM ME
702
00:34:16,758 --> 00:34:20,588
AND WAS WATCHING ME IN PERSON.
703
00:34:20,620 --> 00:34:22,690
THANK GOD HE HAD ALREADY
BEEN CAUGHT,
704
00:34:22,724 --> 00:34:25,764
BECAUSE I WOULDN'T
HAVE GONE ON THE NEWS
705
00:34:25,793 --> 00:34:28,413
THE NEXT DAY --
I WOULD HAVE RUN FOR IT.
706
00:34:29,689 --> 00:34:32,309
Woman: RADER WAS ALTERNATELY
DESCRIBED AS A GOOD FATHER
707
00:34:32,344 --> 00:34:33,934
AND POLITE NEIGHBOR TO
708
00:34:33,965 --> 00:34:37,135
OVERBEARING AND EERIE,
AN OVERLY METICULOUS COMPLIANCE
709
00:34:37,172 --> 00:34:38,832
OFFICER WHO WOULD GO AROUND
710
00:34:38,862 --> 00:34:42,102
MEASURING GRASS AND WRITING UP
ALL SORTS OF CODE VIOLATIONS.
711
00:34:43,862 --> 00:34:45,592
Rawson:
DAD REALLY LIKED UNIFORMS.
712
00:34:48,137 --> 00:34:49,687
HE ALWAYS WANTED
TO LOOK A CERTAIN WAY
713
00:34:49,724 --> 00:34:51,624
TO KIND OF HIDE
WHO HE REALLY IS.
714
00:34:51,655 --> 00:34:52,855
WE'VE BEEN TRACKING IT DOWN --
715
00:34:52,896 --> 00:34:55,756
THE DOGS ARE SOMEWHAT
TERRITORIAL AS WELL AS VICIOUS.
716
00:34:55,793 --> 00:34:59,033
Peters: MY VISION OF HIM WAS
AN OUTCAST,
717
00:34:59,068 --> 00:35:03,758
A LONER, SOMEONE WITH LONG,
SCRAGGLY HAIR.
718
00:35:03,793 --> 00:35:07,793
HE WAS
THE DIRECT OPPOSITE OF THAT.
719
00:35:07,827 --> 00:35:10,827
Hatteberg: IN THE 1970s
TO THE 1980s,
720
00:35:10,862 --> 00:35:13,282
HE WORKED FOR ADT,
THE ALARM COMPANY.
721
00:35:13,310 --> 00:35:16,860
HE'S IN YOUR HOUSE,
INSTALLING THE ALARM SYSTEM,
722
00:35:16,896 --> 00:35:18,826
AND HE'S A SERIAL KILLER.
723
00:35:18,862 --> 00:35:21,032
AND HE'S A BOY SCOUT LEADER,
724
00:35:21,068 --> 00:35:23,788
AND HE WOULD GO CAMPING
WITH HIS SON.
725
00:35:23,827 --> 00:35:25,547
AND HE'S ALSO
THE LONGEST-RUNNING
726
00:35:25,586 --> 00:35:27,856
SERIAL KILLER IN U.S. HISTORY.
727
00:35:30,793 --> 00:35:33,863
[ INDISTINCT TALKING ]
728
00:35:33,896 --> 00:35:36,786
ONCE HE BEGAN TO CONFESS,
THE STRESS WAS
729
00:35:36,827 --> 00:35:37,997
LIFTED IMMEDIATELY.
730
00:35:38,034 --> 00:35:42,344
HE CONFESSED TO THE EIGHT
KNOWN BTK HOMICIDES
731
00:35:42,379 --> 00:35:43,789
AND THEN TWO MORE HOMICIDES
THAT OCCURRED
732
00:35:43,827 --> 00:35:46,717
IN THE PARK CITY AREA.
733
00:35:46,758 --> 00:35:50,068
HE CONFESSED TO THE MURDERS
OF MARINE HEDGE
734
00:35:50,103 --> 00:35:51,213
AND DOLORES DAVIS.
735
00:35:52,689 --> 00:35:58,029
MARINE HEDGE LIVED RIGHT DOWN
THE STREET FROM DENNIS RADER.
736
00:35:58,068 --> 00:36:01,478
THEY PROBABLY SAW EACH OTHER
TAKING OUT THE GARBAGE.
737
00:36:01,517 --> 00:36:04,167
"HI, DENNIS."
"HI, MARINE. HOW YOU DOING?"
738
00:36:06,206 --> 00:36:08,406
AND HE HAD TO HAVE
BEEN PLANNING
739
00:36:08,448 --> 00:36:09,998
WHAT HE WAS GONNA
DO WITH HER.
740
00:36:10,034 --> 00:36:18,074
♪♪
741
00:36:18,103 --> 00:36:21,173
MAN, IT WAS JUST
LIKE, OVERWHELMING.
742
00:36:21,206 --> 00:36:25,926
MY MOTHER DIED AT THE HANDS
OF ONE OF THE MOST
743
00:36:25,965 --> 00:36:30,785
DISGUSTING SOCIAL MALIGNANCIES
THAT'S EVER, YOU KNOW,
744
00:36:30,827 --> 00:36:33,237
BEEN INTRODUCED INTO THIS WORLD.
745
00:36:33,275 --> 00:36:36,095
Narrator: ANALYSIS OF THE TWO
GOADING ANONYMOUS LETTERS
746
00:36:36,137 --> 00:36:37,657
JEFFREY DAVIS RECEIVED
747
00:36:37,689 --> 00:36:40,169
BACK IN THE '90s CONFIRMS
THAT THE WRITER
748
00:36:40,206 --> 00:36:42,026
WAS DENNIS RADER.
749
00:36:42,068 --> 00:36:44,028
[ GLASS BREAKING ]
750
00:36:44,068 --> 00:36:47,448
Davis: YOU ALWAYS IMAGINE
THE FACE OF THE DEVIL.
751
00:36:48,827 --> 00:36:52,827
AND HERE'S THIS ELMER FUDD
LOOKING LITTLE OAF WITH
752
00:36:52,862 --> 00:36:56,002
A STUPID HAIRCUT
AND A DUMB LOOK ON HIS FACE,
753
00:36:56,034 --> 00:36:59,074
AND I THOUGHT, OH,
YOU'RE REAL INTIMIDATING.
754
00:36:59,103 --> 00:37:00,453
YEAH, YOU COULD
PROBABLY SCARE A WOMAN
755
00:37:00,482 --> 00:37:02,172
IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT,
756
00:37:02,206 --> 00:37:05,896
BUT YOU'RE JUST A -- YOU'RE JUST
A LITTLE COCKROACH.
757
00:37:05,931 --> 00:37:08,621
Narrator: POLICE ARE TOLD
SHOCKING DETAILS BEHIND
758
00:37:08,655 --> 00:37:11,275
THE MURDERS OF HEDGE
AND DAVIS.
759
00:37:11,310 --> 00:37:14,590
HE WAS ON BOY SCOUT CAMPOUTS
WITH MY BROTHER.
760
00:37:14,620 --> 00:37:17,310
HE USED THE BOY SCOUTS
FOR AN ALIBI TWICE,
761
00:37:17,344 --> 00:37:21,344
UM, WITH MRS. HEDGE'S MURDER
AND ALSO MRS. DAVIS'S MURDER.
762
00:37:24,344 --> 00:37:25,974
Hatteberg:
HE WOULD GET UP LATE AT NIGHT
763
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,310
AFTER EVERYBODY ELSE
HAD GONE TO SLEEP,
764
00:37:28,344 --> 00:37:32,764
AND HE FOUND MARINE HEDGE,
KILLED HER.
765
00:37:32,793 --> 00:37:36,143
[ OWL HOOTING ]
766
00:37:36,172 --> 00:37:40,342
Peters: HE LEFT ANOTHER
BOY SCOUT OVERNIGHT,
767
00:37:40,379 --> 00:37:43,899
WENT AND KILLED DOLORES DAVIS,
768
00:37:43,931 --> 00:37:45,971
TOOK HER BODY,
769
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:51,280
PUT SOME SORT OF SCARY,
HORRIBLE MASK OVER HER FACE,
770
00:37:51,310 --> 00:37:54,030
AND WENT AND DUMPED HER BODY
UNDER A BRIDGE.
771
00:37:55,413 --> 00:37:59,973
SO TO DO THAT,
HOW SICK DO YOU HAVE TO BE?
772
00:38:01,793 --> 00:38:04,593
AS HE WAS GOING BACK TO
THE BOY SCOUT OVERNIGHT,
773
00:38:04,620 --> 00:38:07,030
HE ACTUALLY STOPPED AT
A SERVICE STATION TO CHANGE
774
00:38:07,068 --> 00:38:10,378
HIS CLOTHES, BECAUSE HE HAD
JUST COMMITTED A MURDER.
775
00:38:10,413 --> 00:38:12,413
A HIGHWAY PATROLMAN
SPOTTED HIM
776
00:38:12,448 --> 00:38:14,548
AND ASKED HIM
WHAT HE WAS DOING.
777
00:38:14,586 --> 00:38:16,096
HE HAD A GOOD EXCUSE.
778
00:38:16,137 --> 00:38:17,587
I'M IN A BOY SCOUT OVERNIGHT,
779
00:38:17,620 --> 00:38:21,480
AND I THOUGHT I'D COME TO
A RESTROOM TO CHANGE MY CLOTHES,
780
00:38:21,517 --> 00:38:24,237
BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT
TO CHANGE IT IN A TENT.
781
00:38:24,275 --> 00:38:26,475
WELL, THAT'S SOMETHING
THE HIGHWAY PATROL OFFICER,
782
00:38:26,517 --> 00:38:29,857
OF COURSE, IS GONNA BELIEVE,
IT'S VERY BELIEVABLE.
783
00:38:29,896 --> 00:38:33,756
HE ACTUALLY WENT BACK TO
THE BOY SCOUT OVERNIGHT,
784
00:38:33,793 --> 00:38:37,213
AND PROBABLY JUST SO PLEASED
WITH HIMSELF,
785
00:38:37,241 --> 00:38:40,141
FELL ASLEEP NEXT TO HIS SON.
786
00:38:40,172 --> 00:38:44,552
HERE'S A GUY WHO CAN BE WITH
HIS SON AT A BOY SCOUT CAMP
787
00:38:44,586 --> 00:38:47,826
IN ONE MOMENT
AND AN HOUR LATER BE OUT
788
00:38:47,862 --> 00:38:49,722
KILLING SOMEONE.
789
00:38:49,758 --> 00:38:53,028
THAT RIGHT THERE REALLY
SHOWS YOU HOW THAT
790
00:38:53,068 --> 00:38:56,028
CANCEROUS MUSCLE
THAT HE CALLS A MIND WORKS.
791
00:38:58,586 --> 00:39:00,446
AND THAT IN-YOUR-FACE
ABOUT "YOUR MOTHER
792
00:39:00,482 --> 00:39:02,212
MUST HAVE BEEN
TERRIFIED," I'LL BET YOU
793
00:39:02,241 --> 00:39:03,931
MY FACE JUST WENT BEET RED,
794
00:39:03,965 --> 00:39:07,095
BECAUSE BASICALLY THAT'S
EXACTLY WHAT HE'S SAYING.
795
00:39:07,137 --> 00:39:08,337
"THAT'S WHAT I DID --
796
00:39:08,379 --> 00:39:10,209
I TERRIFIED YOUR MOTHER
BEFORE I KILLED HER."
797
00:39:11,827 --> 00:39:13,547
HE DUMPED HER BODY,
BUT HE DIDN'T HAVE TIME
798
00:39:13,586 --> 00:39:15,406
TO DO THE THINGS HE WANTED
TO DO WITH HER,
799
00:39:15,448 --> 00:39:17,968
SO HE LEFT FOR A COUPLE OF
DAYS, AND WHEN HE CAME BACK,
800
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:22,030
SHE WASN'T TURNING HIM ON,
BECAUSE HER FACE WAS STARTING
801
00:39:22,068 --> 00:39:23,758
TO DECOMPOSE.
802
00:39:23,793 --> 00:39:27,383
SO HE THOUGHT HE MIGHT
BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE
803
00:39:27,413 --> 00:39:29,863
MORE SEXUAL EXCITEMENT IF
HE WOULD TAKE THAT PORCELAIN
804
00:39:29,896 --> 00:39:32,446
MASK THAT HE HAD
AND PUT IT ON HER.
805
00:39:32,482 --> 00:39:34,972
BUT HE SAID THE MASK DIDN'T DO
IT FOR HIM, BECAUSE THE REST OF
806
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:36,380
HER BODY WAS DECOMPOSING, TOO,
807
00:39:36,413 --> 00:39:38,173
SO HE JUST LET HER BODY
THERE UNDER THE BRIDGE.
808
00:39:41,793 --> 00:39:44,033
Narrator: UNDER THE DIRECTION
OF LIEUTENANT LANDWEHR,
809
00:39:44,068 --> 00:39:47,548
INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS OF
THE BTK TASK FORCE HAD BEEN
810
00:39:47,586 --> 00:39:50,406
ASSIGNED SPECIFIC MURDERS
TO FOCUS ON.
811
00:39:50,448 --> 00:39:52,548
NOW THEY TAKE TURNS
QUESTIONING THE KILLER
812
00:39:52,586 --> 00:39:53,926
ABOUT THEM.
813
00:39:53,965 --> 00:39:56,515
HIS RECALL -- THERE'S NO DOUBT
ABOUT HIS RECALL.
814
00:39:56,551 --> 00:39:59,691
HE HAD A PHOTOGRAPHIC MEMORY
OF THOSE MURDERS AND THE SCENES.
815
00:39:59,724 --> 00:40:03,284
AND NOW HE'S ABLE TO ACTUALLY
RELATE THAT AND TAKE FULL
816
00:40:03,310 --> 00:40:05,790
CREDIT FOR EVERYTHING
THAT HE HAD DONE.
817
00:40:05,827 --> 00:40:08,827
HE APPEARED TO BE COMING
AROUSED AS
818
00:40:08,862 --> 00:40:11,932
HE STARTED TO TALK
ABOUT THE MURDERS.
819
00:40:11,965 --> 00:40:13,685
I WAS LIKE,
"YOU FILTHY PIG."
820
00:40:13,724 --> 00:40:14,794
HE THOUGHT HE WAS...
821
00:40:16,310 --> 00:40:17,380
THE PRINCE OF DARKNESS.
822
00:40:17,413 --> 00:40:19,763
HE THOUGHT HE WAS
FROM THE DARK SIDE.
823
00:40:19,793 --> 00:40:22,413
Gouge: HE THOUGHT
HE WAS A CELEBRITY
824
00:40:22,448 --> 00:40:24,788
AND THAT WE SHOULD BE HONORED
TO BE IN
825
00:40:24,827 --> 00:40:29,207
THE ROOM WITH HIM IN ORDER TO
SHARE THIS EXPERIENCE WITH HIM.
826
00:40:29,241 --> 00:40:32,001
HE SAID, YOU KNOW, "I'M LIKE
A LION ON THE SERENGETI.
827
00:40:32,034 --> 00:40:33,764
YOU CAN'T ASK THEM
NOT TO HUNT."
828
00:40:33,793 --> 00:40:35,483
IT WAS LIKE,
I'M THIS WAY.
829
00:40:36,965 --> 00:40:38,445
YOU JUST GOTTA ACCEPT IT.
830
00:40:38,482 --> 00:40:39,722
HE ALMOST TOOK ON A ROLE OF
831
00:40:39,758 --> 00:40:42,758
AN INSTRUCTOR -- WHEN HE WAS
TELLING US ABOUT THE CASES,
832
00:40:42,793 --> 00:40:45,173
IT WAS, THIS IS HOW I GOT
MYSELF PREPARED FOR IT,
833
00:40:45,206 --> 00:40:46,856
'CAUSE STRANGLING PEOPLE'S
HARDER THAN YOU THINK.
834
00:40:46,896 --> 00:40:48,026
YOU KNOW, HE SAID THAT.
835
00:40:48,068 --> 00:40:49,858
BTK USED A SMALL SQUEEZE BALL
836
00:40:49,896 --> 00:40:52,966
THAT HE KEPT
ON HIS BEDSIDE TABLE.
837
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,970
WRITTEN ON IT WAS THE SLOGAN,
"LIFE IS GOOD."
838
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,520
HE USED THAT BALL TO
STRENGTHEN HIS HANDS
839
00:40:58,551 --> 00:41:01,001
SO THAT HE COULD MORE EASILY
STRANGLE HIS VICTIMS.
840
00:41:01,034 --> 00:41:03,554
IT BOTHERS ME
TO THIS DAY.
841
00:41:07,344 --> 00:41:10,454
Hatteberg:
HE WAS A MAN WITH NO SOUL,
842
00:41:10,482 --> 00:41:13,382
AND HE WAS THE MOST
EVIL PERSON I EVER MET.
843
00:41:15,758 --> 00:41:18,548
RADER HAD A NOTION
ABOUT HIMSELF,
844
00:41:18,586 --> 00:41:21,586
AND STILL DOES,
THAT HE WAS A GOOD GUY,
845
00:41:21,620 --> 00:41:24,760
ESSENTIALLY, WHO DID
SOME BAD THINGS.
846
00:41:28,103 --> 00:41:29,033
TO HIS MIND,
847
00:41:29,068 --> 00:41:32,168
THAT MEANT HE WAS HELPFUL
TO NEIGHBORS.
848
00:41:32,206 --> 00:41:36,516
HE WAS A GOOD FATHER, A GOOD
HUSBAND, A GOOD PROVIDER.
849
00:41:36,551 --> 00:41:40,661
HE WAS A HARD-WORKING MEMBER
OF HIS CHURCH.
850
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,140
OCCASIONALLY, HE HAD FORAYS
INTO HIS DARK SIDE,
851
00:41:47,172 --> 00:41:50,102
WHERE HE WOULD STALK PEOPLE,
852
00:41:50,137 --> 00:41:52,477
BREAK INTO THEIR HOUSES,
AND KILL THEM.
853
00:41:54,310 --> 00:41:57,480
BUT THOSE WERE,
IN HIS MIND, ABERRATIONS.
854
00:41:57,517 --> 00:41:59,477
THEY WERE NOT REALLY
WHO HE WAS.
855
00:41:59,517 --> 00:42:01,687
IT'S STILL VERY HARD TO
HEAR PEOPLE CALL HIM
856
00:42:01,724 --> 00:42:05,244
A MONSTER OR CALL HIM EVIL
OR SAY, LIKE,
857
00:42:05,275 --> 00:42:08,205
UM, HE SHOULD WALK
THE GREEN MILE AND FRY.
858
00:42:08,241 --> 00:42:09,931
I MEAN, THESE ARE THINGS
PEOPLE LITERALLY HAVE SAID
859
00:42:09,965 --> 00:42:11,065
TO MY FACE.
860
00:42:12,448 --> 00:42:13,898
IT'S HARD FOR ME
TO HEAR THAT,
861
00:42:13,931 --> 00:42:17,101
BECAUSE THAT'S NOT
THE PERSON I KNOW.
862
00:42:18,931 --> 00:42:20,761
YOU KNOW, PEOPLE LIKE TO SAY,
"YOUR WHOLE
863
00:42:20,793 --> 00:42:23,523
"LIFE WAS A LIE, BECAUSE
YOU LIVED WITH BTK.
864
00:42:23,551 --> 00:42:25,411
YOU NEVER LIVED WITH
THE MAN YOU THOUGHT YOU DID."
865
00:42:25,448 --> 00:42:28,098
YES, BUT I STILL LIVED
WITH MY DAD.
866
00:42:28,137 --> 00:42:31,237
♪♪
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