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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,344 --> 00:00:02,484 AND GOOD EVENING. 2 00:00:02,517 --> 00:00:03,897 WE HAVE EXCLUSIVE DETAILS -- A NEW COMMUNICATION THAT 3 00:00:03,931 --> 00:00:06,591 COULD BE FROM THE SERIAL KILLER BTK. 4 00:00:06,620 --> 00:00:08,280 Woman: NOW POLICE BELIEVE BTK 5 00:00:08,310 --> 00:00:10,690 IS ALIVE AND LIVING IN WICHITA. 6 00:00:10,724 --> 00:00:13,034 BTK'S TRADEMARK, WRITING LETTERS TO THE PAPER, 7 00:00:13,068 --> 00:00:15,478 DETAILING HIS MURDERS AND TAUNTING POLICE. 8 00:00:17,551 --> 00:00:19,071 Otis: IT WAS JUST SO HARD TO BELIEVE THAT 9 00:00:19,103 --> 00:00:22,483 A SERIAL KILLER WHO WAS VERY ACTIVE IN THE '70s, 10 00:00:22,517 --> 00:00:24,587 WHO HAD DISAPPEARED FOR MANY, 11 00:00:24,620 --> 00:00:27,970 MANY YEARS AFTER SEVERAL HOMICIDES AND HAD NEVER BEEN 12 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:29,970 HEARD FROM EVER, 13 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:34,240 WAS SUDDENLY, IN 2004, SENDING 14 00:00:34,275 --> 00:00:35,275 PICTURES TO THE POLICE. 15 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,030 Peters: ABSOLUTELY 16 00:00:39,068 --> 00:00:41,998 EVERYONE WAS IN SHOCK, SAID, "NO WAY." 17 00:00:42,034 --> 00:00:43,104 THERE'S NO WAY THIS IS TRUE. 18 00:00:43,137 --> 00:00:45,137 IT CAN'T BE THAT HE'S STILL AROUND. 19 00:00:46,241 --> 00:00:49,071 Kelly: PEOPLE WHO WERE OLD ENOUGH TO REMEMBER THE ORIGINAL 20 00:00:49,103 --> 00:00:52,723 BTK MURDERS STARTED TO FEEL THAT FAMILIAR FEAR. 21 00:00:52,758 --> 00:00:54,548 WHAT IF THIS GUY STRUCK AGAIN? 22 00:00:54,586 --> 00:00:56,926 Hatteberg: THERE'S NOW A WHOLE GENERATION OF PEOPLE 23 00:00:56,965 --> 00:00:58,785 WHO HAVE NOT BEEN AFRAID OF BTK. 24 00:00:58,827 --> 00:01:02,757 NOW HE HAS ONCE AGAIN RE-EMERGED. 25 00:01:02,793 --> 00:01:06,343 THAT TERRIFIED A WHOLE NEW GENERATION OF PEOPLE, 26 00:01:06,379 --> 00:01:08,169 PARTICULARLY WOMEN. 27 00:01:08,206 --> 00:01:11,066 Kelly: THE POLICE TOOK THIS THREAT VERY SERIOUSLY. 28 00:01:11,103 --> 00:01:13,593 THEY FELT THAT BTK WAS ANNOUNCING THAT HE WAS 29 00:01:13,620 --> 00:01:14,970 ACTIVE AGAIN, 30 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,930 THAT HE WAS ON THE PROWL, AND THAT HE WAS DANGEROUS 31 00:01:22,413 --> 00:01:24,973 Narrator: LIEUTENANT LANDWEHR AND COMMAND STAFF 32 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,140 QUICKLY ASSEMBLE A TASK FORCE, 33 00:01:27,172 --> 00:01:31,792 THE SECOND IN 20 YEARS CHARGED WITH BRINGING DOWN BTK. 34 00:01:31,827 --> 00:01:34,587 Otis: THE LOGISTICS WERE INCREDIBLE, 35 00:01:34,620 --> 00:01:37,140 BECAUSE WE REALLY HAD NO PLACE 36 00:01:37,172 --> 00:01:39,762 IN OUR CITY HALL TO HOUSE AS MANY PEOPLE AS WE'RE GOING 37 00:01:39,793 --> 00:01:41,793 TO NEED, SO WE FOUND ROOM AT OUR TRAINING CENTER. 38 00:01:43,413 --> 00:01:46,523 PHONES HAD TO BE INSTALLED, COMPUTERS HAD TO BE INSTALLED. 39 00:01:46,551 --> 00:01:50,451 IT WAS A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS GOING ON. 40 00:01:50,482 --> 00:01:51,792 Relph: THIS WAS YOUR CRACK AT 41 00:01:51,827 --> 00:01:54,337 THE MOST INFAMOUS CRIME IN WICHITA'S HISTORY. 42 00:01:54,379 --> 00:01:56,409 I'M GONNA GET THAT GUY THAT SCARED ME WHEN I WAS A KID. 43 00:01:56,448 --> 00:01:57,928 [ PHONE RINGING ] 44 00:01:57,965 --> 00:02:01,335 Otis: WITHIN 24 HOURS, WE HAD OVER 200 TIPS 45 00:02:01,379 --> 00:02:04,409 AND IN THE FIRST 48 HOURS, WE WERE PUSHING 700 TIPS. 46 00:02:04,448 --> 00:02:07,828 Narrator: THIS NEW TASK FORCE IS UNDER NO ILLUSIONS ABOUT HOW 47 00:02:07,862 --> 00:02:11,552 HARD IT WILL BE TO CATCH THE ELUSIVE BTK, 48 00:02:11,586 --> 00:02:14,716 YET THEY NOW HAVE ONE BIG ADVANTAGE. 49 00:02:14,758 --> 00:02:18,238 WE BELIEVED WE HAD BTK'S DNA, AND THAT'S WHAT 50 00:02:18,275 --> 00:02:20,545 THE INVESTIGATORS IN THE '70s NEVER HAD. 51 00:02:20,586 --> 00:02:23,136 Narrator: IN 1986, BLOOD AND SKIN WAS 52 00:02:23,172 --> 00:02:26,002 REMOVED FROM UNDER VICKI WEGERLE'S FINGERNAILS, 53 00:02:26,034 --> 00:02:29,524 BUT CONCLUSIVE DNA TESTING WAS STILL YEARS AWAY. 54 00:02:29,551 --> 00:02:32,661 WHEN SEMEN WAS FOUND AT THE OTERO AND FOX SCENES, 55 00:02:32,689 --> 00:02:35,099 DNA WASN'T EVEN A CONCEPT. 56 00:02:35,137 --> 00:02:37,377 Otis: OVER THE YEARS, LIEUTENANT LANDWEHR 57 00:02:37,413 --> 00:02:40,763 WOULD REGULARLY CHECK WITH OUR LOCAL DNA LAB 58 00:02:40,793 --> 00:02:44,523 ABOUT TESTING THAT OLD EVIDENCE. 59 00:02:44,551 --> 00:02:47,101 BUT IN THE '80s AND EARLY '90s, 60 00:02:47,137 --> 00:02:50,447 DNA TECHNOLOGY HAD NOT GROWN TO WHERE YOU COULD GET A SMALL 61 00:02:50,482 --> 00:02:51,722 AMOUNT OF DNA TO TEST OUT. 62 00:02:51,758 --> 00:02:53,658 YOU'D HAVE TO BURN UP THE WHOLE SAMPLE. 63 00:02:53,689 --> 00:02:56,339 AND THE LIEUTENANT, GOD BLESS HIM, HAD THE FORESIGHT TO 64 00:02:56,379 --> 00:02:59,689 REALIZE THAT IF WE TEST ONE OF THESE SAMPLES, AND WE DON'T GET 65 00:02:59,724 --> 00:03:01,664 WHAT WE WANT, OUR WHOLE SAMPLE'S GONE, 66 00:03:01,689 --> 00:03:06,169 AND IF WE DON'T GET A PROFILE, WE'RE -- WE'RE SCREWED. 67 00:03:06,206 --> 00:03:07,826 Relph: I GIVE LANDWEHR INCREDIBLE CREDIT FOR 68 00:03:07,862 --> 00:03:09,932 THE JUDICIOUSNESS OF THAT EVIDENCE, 'CAUSE, 69 00:03:09,965 --> 00:03:13,895 YOU KNOW, ONCE YOU USE IT UP, YOU CAN'T GO ASKING FOR MORE. 70 00:03:13,931 --> 00:03:18,141 Narrator: BY 2004, THE SCIENCE PROVES IRREFUTABLE. 71 00:03:18,172 --> 00:03:21,832 Otis: WE HAD THE SAME DNA PROFILE IN THE OTERO CASE, 72 00:03:21,862 --> 00:03:24,662 THE NANCY FOX CASE, AND THE VICKI WEGERLE CASE. 73 00:03:24,689 --> 00:03:28,309 SO INSTEAD OF TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE A NAMED PERSON 74 00:03:28,344 --> 00:03:32,314 IN A TIP WAS IN 1974 OR 1976, 75 00:03:32,344 --> 00:03:33,664 ALL WE NEEDED WAS A DNA SAMPLE. 76 00:03:36,517 --> 00:03:39,307 Gouge: SO WHEN WE WOULD GET A TIP ON A SUSPECT, 77 00:03:39,344 --> 00:03:41,834 WE WOULD SIMPLY EXPLAIN TO THEM THAT THE EASIEST WAY TO 78 00:03:41,862 --> 00:03:45,622 ELIMINATE THEM FROM SUSPICION WOULD BE TO DO A DNA SWAB. 79 00:03:46,965 --> 00:03:49,895 Relph: THE TIPS, WE WORKED FOR ABOUT 5,000, 80 00:03:49,931 --> 00:03:53,311 AND ACTUAL SWABBINGS WERE SOMEWHERE AROUND 17 TO 1,800. 81 00:03:55,275 --> 00:03:57,445 WE ALSO ASSURED PEOPLE THAT THOSE SAMPLES WOULD BE 82 00:03:57,482 --> 00:04:00,342 DESTROYED AND WOULDN'T BE USED FOR ANY OTHER CASE. 83 00:04:02,655 --> 00:04:06,755 Narrator: ON MAY 4th, A SECOND LETTER BELIEVED TO BE FROM BTK 84 00:04:06,793 --> 00:04:08,483 IS DELIVERED TO KAKE-TV. 85 00:04:10,206 --> 00:04:12,406 WHEN I ARRIVED, THERE WERE CAMERAS SET UP, 86 00:04:12,448 --> 00:04:14,478 FILMING THE ENTRANCE OF THE DETECTIVES COMING IN 87 00:04:14,517 --> 00:04:17,587 TO PICK UP THE PACKAGE -- THEY DID A PRODUCTION ON IT. 88 00:04:17,620 --> 00:04:19,690 Woman: IT WAS JUST BEFORE NOON ON WEDNESDAY 89 00:04:19,724 --> 00:04:21,664 WHEN A LETTER ARRIVED IN OUR STUDIOS. 90 00:04:21,689 --> 00:04:24,169 THE SENDER -- POSSIBLY BTK. 91 00:04:24,206 --> 00:04:27,206 KAKE-TV 10 AND THE ADDRESS TO THE STATION 92 00:04:27,241 --> 00:04:28,551 WAS TYPED ON A LABEL. 93 00:04:28,586 --> 00:04:31,516 THE RETURN ADDRESS WAS FROM THOMAS B. KING, 94 00:04:31,551 --> 00:04:36,451 408 CLAYTON STREET, WICHITA, KANSAS, 67203, 95 00:04:36,482 --> 00:04:38,412 AN ADDRESS THAT DOES NOT EXIST. 96 00:04:40,206 --> 00:04:43,826 Narrator: THIS COMMUNICATION CONTAINS 13 CHAPTER HEADINGS, 97 00:04:43,862 --> 00:04:45,932 APPARENTLY FOR A BOOK, 98 00:04:45,965 --> 00:04:48,515 AND A HOMEMADE WORD SEARCH PUZZLE. 99 00:04:48,551 --> 00:04:50,341 Otis: WE WERE ABLE TO FIND THE WORDS 100 00:04:50,379 --> 00:04:53,209 THAT TALKED ABOUT THE M.O. OF HIS MURDERS. 101 00:04:53,241 --> 00:04:54,281 I THINK HE WAS SHOWING OFF. 102 00:04:54,310 --> 00:04:57,070 I THINK HE WAS PROUD TO TELL US 103 00:04:57,103 --> 00:04:59,313 HOW HE COMMITTED HIS CRIMES. 104 00:04:59,344 --> 00:05:02,104 Gouge: IT BECAME CLEAR THAT HE WANTED TO TELL HIS STORY 105 00:05:02,137 --> 00:05:04,587 RATHER THAN TO HAVE OTHERS TO TELL HIS STORY, 106 00:05:04,620 --> 00:05:08,310 SO HIS IDEA WAS THAT HE WOULD OUTSMART 107 00:05:08,344 --> 00:05:12,484 EVERYONE AND CONTINUE TO GET AWAY WITH THIS. 108 00:05:12,517 --> 00:05:15,207 Peters: THE THING THAT SCARED ME THE MOST 109 00:05:15,241 --> 00:05:17,031 WERE THE CHAPTERS. 110 00:05:17,068 --> 00:05:19,518 THE LAST CHAPTER 111 00:05:19,551 --> 00:05:22,971 WAS ENTITLED "WILL THERE BE MORE?" 112 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:26,170 SCARED US HALF TO DEATH. 113 00:05:26,206 --> 00:05:28,896 BTK IS A KAKE VIEWER AND HAS BEEN FOR YEARS. 114 00:05:28,931 --> 00:05:31,031 HE HAS COMMUNICATED WITH US SINCE THE '70s, 115 00:05:31,068 --> 00:05:32,518 AND IT CONTINUES TODAY. 116 00:05:32,551 --> 00:05:35,691 WE KNOW HE IS WATCHING, AND WE KNOW HE IS LISTENING, 117 00:05:35,724 --> 00:05:39,764 AND TO HIM WE SAY, THE MESSAGE HAS BEEN RECEIVED AND PASSED ON. 118 00:05:39,793 --> 00:05:42,623 KAKE-TV WAS HIS STATION, AND KAKE-TV 119 00:05:42,655 --> 00:05:44,685 GOT THOSE COMMUNICATIONS ON THE AIR. 120 00:05:44,724 --> 00:05:46,524 IT'S WHAT HE WANTED IN THE '70s. 121 00:05:46,551 --> 00:05:49,141 IT'S WHAT HE WANTED IN 2004. 122 00:05:49,172 --> 00:05:52,592 WE ARE HERE, WE ARE LISTENING AND COMMUNICATING. 123 00:05:52,620 --> 00:05:54,760 I THINK THAT HE ACTUALLY THOUGHT OF 124 00:05:54,793 --> 00:05:58,553 THE PEOPLE OF KAKE AS HIS FRIENDS, 125 00:05:58,586 --> 00:06:02,136 LONG-DISTANCE FRIENDS AND THROUGH THE TV ONLY, 126 00:06:02,172 --> 00:06:04,932 BUT THAT'S WHY HE DIRECTED SO MANY COMMUNICATIONS AT US. 127 00:06:04,965 --> 00:06:07,135 HE FELT COMFORTABLE. HE KNEW US. 128 00:06:07,172 --> 00:06:09,312 Narrator: WITHIN A MONTH, A THIRD LETTER 129 00:06:09,344 --> 00:06:11,034 IS DISCOVERED TAPED TO THE BACK 130 00:06:11,068 --> 00:06:13,378 OF A STOP SIGN ON A BUSY STREET. 131 00:06:13,413 --> 00:06:17,283 THE CONTENTS ARE PARTICULARLY DISTURBING AS THEY DETAIL 132 00:06:17,310 --> 00:06:19,340 THE OTERO FAMILY KILLINGS. 133 00:06:19,379 --> 00:06:22,309 HE MENTIONS WHERE EVERY VICTIM WAS FOUND AND WHAT CLOTHING 134 00:06:22,344 --> 00:06:24,214 THEY WERE WEARING AND HOW THEY WERE BOUND 135 00:06:24,241 --> 00:06:26,521 AND WHAT KIND OF KNOTS WERE USED. 136 00:06:26,551 --> 00:06:27,791 HE THOUGHT TO HIMSELF, "SAY, 137 00:06:27,827 --> 00:06:29,927 "THIS MAY BE IT, A PERFECT SETUP, 138 00:06:29,965 --> 00:06:32,615 "A PERSON HE COULD TIE UP, TORTURE, AND MAYBE KILL. 139 00:06:34,137 --> 00:06:36,207 "IN JUST A FLASH, HE ORDERED THEM BACK INSIDE, 140 00:06:36,241 --> 00:06:37,241 "CONFRONTING THE FAMILY. 141 00:06:39,034 --> 00:06:41,484 "HE SLIPPED THE GARROTE AROUND THE GIRL'S NECK. 142 00:06:41,517 --> 00:06:43,477 "SHE GRASPED. HER EYES BULGED. 143 00:06:43,517 --> 00:06:45,337 "THEN SHE PASSED OUT. 144 00:06:45,379 --> 00:06:48,759 "REX MADE A CLOVE HITCH AND PLACED IT OVER JULIE'S NECK. 145 00:06:48,793 --> 00:06:51,103 "SHE CRIED, 'GOD HAVE MERCY ON YOU,' 146 00:06:51,137 --> 00:06:52,897 "BEFORE HE TIGHTENED THE NOOSE. 147 00:06:52,931 --> 00:06:54,241 "RETURNING TO THE BASEMENT, HE FOUND 148 00:06:54,275 --> 00:06:57,275 "JOSEPHINE AWAKE AND LOOKING AT THE CEILING. 149 00:06:57,310 --> 00:07:00,620 "HE PICKED HER UP AND TOOK HER TIED BODY TO THE SEWER PIPE. 150 00:07:00,655 --> 00:07:03,025 "'DON'T WORRY, BABY, HE SAID. 151 00:07:03,068 --> 00:07:05,138 "'YOU'LL BE IN HEAVEN TONIGHT WITH THE REST.'" 152 00:07:07,172 --> 00:07:10,312 Narrator: ON JULY 17th, A FOURTH MISSIVE THREATENING 153 00:07:10,344 --> 00:07:14,244 MORE MURDERS IS LEFT AT THE WICHITA PUBLIC LIBRARY. 154 00:07:14,275 --> 00:07:17,275 A FIFTH LETTER, RECOVERED OCTOBER 22nd, 155 00:07:17,310 --> 00:07:21,100 IS A FABRICATED VERSION OF BTK'S LIFE STORY. 156 00:07:21,137 --> 00:07:23,337 HE ALWAYS SAW HIMSELF AS A MASTER CRIMINAL, 157 00:07:23,379 --> 00:07:26,619 SO I THINK HE WANTED TO COME UP WITH A STORY THAT CREATED HIM. 158 00:07:26,655 --> 00:07:29,305 "MOTHER SLEPT BESIDE ME AT TIMES, THE SMELLS, 159 00:07:29,344 --> 00:07:30,694 "THE FEEL OF HER UNDERCLOTHES, 160 00:07:30,724 --> 00:07:32,834 "AND SHE LET ME RUB HER HAIR. 161 00:07:32,862 --> 00:07:35,622 "IF YOU MASTURBATE, GOD WILL COME AND KILL YOU. 162 00:07:35,655 --> 00:07:38,855 "MOM -- WORDS AFTER SHE FOUND SEMINAL YELLOW STAIN IN 163 00:07:38,896 --> 00:07:42,236 "HER UNDERWEAR ONE DAY, SHE TRIED TO BEAT ME. 164 00:07:42,275 --> 00:07:43,655 "I FOUGHT BACK. 165 00:07:43,689 --> 00:07:45,789 "SHE HELD MY HANDS BEHIND MY BACK AND USED 166 00:07:45,827 --> 00:07:47,757 "THE MAN'S BELT TO WHIP ME. 167 00:07:47,793 --> 00:07:50,663 FUNNY, IT HURT, BUT SPARKY LIKED IT." 168 00:07:50,689 --> 00:07:52,589 HE WAS TRYING TO MAKE UP 169 00:07:52,620 --> 00:07:56,790 A PERSONALITY THAT WAS JUST ONE CLICHE AFTER THE OTHER. 170 00:07:56,827 --> 00:07:59,687 Narrator: LIKE CHIEF LAMUNYON IN THE 1970s, 171 00:07:59,724 --> 00:08:03,624 LIEUTENANT LANDWEHR BELIEVES HIS BEST SHOT AT CATCHING BTK 172 00:08:03,655 --> 00:08:06,305 IS TO PLAY TO HIS EGO AND LURE HIM IN 173 00:08:06,344 --> 00:08:09,144 WITH THE HOPE THAT HE'LL MAKE A MISTAKE. 174 00:08:09,172 --> 00:08:12,902 THE FBI SUGGESTED THAT WE SHOULD HAVE ONE PERSON BE 175 00:08:12,931 --> 00:08:16,521 THE FACE OF THE CASE FOR THE WICHITA POLICE DEPARTMENT, 176 00:08:16,551 --> 00:08:19,241 AND IT WAS DECIDED THAT THAT WOULD BE LIEUTENANT LANDWEHR. 177 00:08:21,068 --> 00:08:23,788 Lamunyon: AND I CAN'T STRESS THE IMPORTANCE OF WHAT 178 00:08:23,827 --> 00:08:26,307 KENNY HE DID IN THIS -- KENNY SAYS, 179 00:08:26,344 --> 00:08:28,034 "THIS IS GONNA BE SCRIPTED. 180 00:08:28,068 --> 00:08:30,208 "I'M GONNA GIVE OUT CERTAIN 181 00:08:30,241 --> 00:08:33,381 SPECIFIC INFORMATION." 182 00:08:33,413 --> 00:08:35,553 A LETTER RECEIVED BY KAKE-TV WAS TURNED OVER 183 00:08:35,586 --> 00:08:37,336 TO US LAST WEDNESDAY. 184 00:08:37,379 --> 00:08:39,339 THE FOLLOWING FACTS ABOUT BTK 185 00:08:39,379 --> 00:08:42,239 ARE BEING MADE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC 186 00:08:42,275 --> 00:08:44,475 IN HOPES OF IDENTIFYING BTK. 187 00:08:44,517 --> 00:08:46,617 THOSE RELEASES WEREN'T MEANT FOR THE PUBLIC. 188 00:08:46,655 --> 00:08:48,755 THEY WERE MEANT FOR BTK. 189 00:08:48,793 --> 00:08:50,863 HE CLAIMS THE FOLLOWING, 190 00:08:50,896 --> 00:08:52,406 HE WAS BORN IN 1939. 191 00:08:52,448 --> 00:08:53,968 Relph: KEEPING HIM TALKING. 192 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,310 NO CRIMINAL EXCEPT MAYBE THE ZODIAC HAS 193 00:08:57,344 --> 00:08:59,314 CONTINUED TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE POLICE 194 00:08:59,344 --> 00:09:00,484 AND NOT BEEN CAUGHT. 195 00:09:00,517 --> 00:09:02,377 THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST CHALLENGING CASES 196 00:09:02,413 --> 00:09:05,663 THAT, UH, I'VE NEVER BEEN INVOLVED WITH. 197 00:09:05,689 --> 00:09:07,379 Gouge: LIEUTENANT LANDWEHR WOULD SAY, 198 00:09:07,413 --> 00:09:09,143 I REALLY THINK BTK WOULD BE 199 00:09:09,172 --> 00:09:11,932 A VERY INTERESTING PERSON TO TALK TO. 200 00:09:11,965 --> 00:09:15,755 AND THAT WAS KIND OF AN INVITATION TO BTK 201 00:09:15,793 --> 00:09:17,553 TO BOND WITH HIM, 202 00:09:17,586 --> 00:09:19,826 BECAUSE WE KNEW THAT HE WOULD BE WATCHING 203 00:09:19,862 --> 00:09:23,032 EVERY NEWS CONFERENCE THAT HE COULD ABOUT HIMSELF. 204 00:09:23,068 --> 00:09:25,788 Relph: AND SO EVERY NEWS RELEASE, EVERYTHING YOU HEARD 205 00:09:25,827 --> 00:09:28,547 THROUGH THE NEWS, CAME THROUGH KENNY LANDWEHR. 206 00:09:28,586 --> 00:09:30,756 HE WOULD BECOME BTK'S ADVERSARY. 207 00:09:30,793 --> 00:09:33,243 WE ARE AGAIN ASKING FOR HELP FROM THE PUBLIC. 208 00:09:33,275 --> 00:09:36,275 Gouge: THE IDEA WAS ALSO TO SAY THAT WE WERE CLOSING IN ON HIM 209 00:09:36,310 --> 00:09:39,280 AND THAT SORT OF THING IN ORDER TO TRY TO KEEP HIM FROM 210 00:09:39,310 --> 00:09:40,900 KILLING SOMEBODY ELSE. 211 00:09:40,931 --> 00:09:42,861 THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 212 00:09:42,896 --> 00:09:45,446 BY THIS TIME, WE KNEW HE'D KILLED EIGHT. 213 00:09:45,482 --> 00:09:47,592 THE URGENCY WAS, YOU KNOW, THIS BACK AND FORTH 214 00:09:47,620 --> 00:09:50,970 COMMUNICATION IS GONNA ENTERTAIN HIM FOR SO LONG, 215 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:52,660 AND THEN HE HAVE TO UP THE ANTE. 216 00:10:00,379 --> 00:10:02,719 WE TRULY FEEL THAT HE IS TRYING TO COMMUNICATE WITH US. 217 00:10:02,758 --> 00:10:05,588 Woman: WE'VE HEARD IT TIME AND TIME AGAIN FROM POLICE. 218 00:10:05,620 --> 00:10:09,520 BTK IS SPEAKING OUT AND WANTS TO MAKE SURE HE'S HEARD. 219 00:10:09,551 --> 00:10:13,761 WE KNEW WE HAD A PIVOTAL ROLE IN GETTING THIS GUY CAUGHT. 220 00:10:13,793 --> 00:10:16,833 WE HAD TO KEEP PUTTING THESE THINGS ON TV. 221 00:10:16,862 --> 00:10:19,972 Man: IT APPEARS BTK IS COMMUNICATING AGAIN. 222 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:23,380 KAKE-TV RECEIVING ANOTHER MYSTERIOUS MESSAGE TODAY. 223 00:10:23,413 --> 00:10:27,033 WE HAD TO KEEP PUBLICIZING EVERYTHING HE SENT US, 224 00:10:27,068 --> 00:10:28,478 EVERY CLUE HE SENT US 225 00:10:28,517 --> 00:10:32,067 BECAUSE WE KNEW THAT WAS THE KEY 226 00:10:32,103 --> 00:10:34,553 TO GETTING HIM CAPTURED ONE DAY. 227 00:10:34,586 --> 00:10:36,546 THIS IS A STORY YOU'LL ONLY SEE ON KAKE, 228 00:10:36,586 --> 00:10:38,586 AND TODAY'S MESSAGE IS EERILY SIMILAR 229 00:10:38,620 --> 00:10:41,100 TO A POSTCARD KAKE RECEIVED LAST WEEK. 230 00:10:41,137 --> 00:10:44,787 Peters: HE WAS WATCHING ME EVERY SINGLE NIGHT. 231 00:10:44,827 --> 00:10:48,307 HE WAS WATCHING ALL OF US, BUT OF COURSE, HE LIKED WOMEN. 232 00:10:48,344 --> 00:10:51,034 KEEP IT ON KAKE FOR COMPLETE LIVE TEAM COVERAGE. 233 00:10:51,068 --> 00:10:55,028 I HAD NO IDEA WHAT HE WAS THINKING, 234 00:10:55,068 --> 00:10:57,138 WHAT HE MAY HAVE BEEN PLANNING, 235 00:10:57,172 --> 00:10:59,762 WHAT HE MAY HAVE BEEN DOING WHILE HE WAS WATCHING ME. 236 00:10:59,793 --> 00:11:00,903 I HAD NO IDEA. 237 00:11:00,931 --> 00:11:03,031 FOR THE SECOND TIME IN JUST MORE THAN A WEEK, 238 00:11:03,068 --> 00:11:05,618 ANOTHER POSSIBLE COMMUNICATION FROM BTK 239 00:11:05,655 --> 00:11:08,025 ARRIVES HERE AT OUR STUDIOS. 240 00:11:08,068 --> 00:11:10,098 THE COMMUNICATIONS ARE GETTING MORE FREQUENT 241 00:11:10,137 --> 00:11:11,657 AND A LOT MORE PERSONAL. 242 00:11:11,689 --> 00:11:13,929 THERE WAS ONE COMMUNICATION 243 00:11:13,965 --> 00:11:16,785 THAT REALLY FRIGHTENED ME. 244 00:11:16,827 --> 00:11:19,377 ONE NIGHT I TURNED TO THE WEATHERMAN, AND I SAID, 245 00:11:19,413 --> 00:11:22,793 I SURE HOPE IT GETS WARMER, BECAUSE MY CO-ANCHOR AND I, 246 00:11:22,827 --> 00:11:24,787 NAMED JEFF, WE BOTH HAD COLDS. 247 00:11:24,827 --> 00:11:26,717 WE GOT THE CRUD OR SOMETHING. 248 00:11:26,758 --> 00:11:31,588 TWO DAYS LATER, WE GET A POSTCARD FROM BTK. 249 00:11:31,620 --> 00:11:35,720 "SORRY ABOUT SUSAN'S AND JEFF'S COLDS." 250 00:11:37,206 --> 00:11:39,716 THIS MORNING WE HAVE MORE INFORMATION ON 251 00:11:39,758 --> 00:11:43,098 THE LETTER SENT TO THE WICHITA EAGLE BY THE BTK KILLER. 252 00:11:43,137 --> 00:11:45,097 Kelly: WHEN BTK RESURFACED, 253 00:11:45,137 --> 00:11:48,337 IT REKINDLED FEAR AMONG THE REPORTERS, TOO. 254 00:11:48,379 --> 00:11:50,449 SOME OF THEM WHO NEVER WOULD HAVE OWNED 255 00:11:50,482 --> 00:11:54,592 A GUN BEFORE WENT TO A GUN STORE AND PURCHASED A REVOLVER 256 00:11:54,620 --> 00:11:56,590 TO PROTECT THEMSELVES. 257 00:11:56,620 --> 00:11:58,860 SOME INSTALLED SECURITY SYSTEMS. 258 00:11:58,896 --> 00:12:00,966 EVERYONE BECAME MORE ALERT. 259 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:02,860 IT WAS CLEAR THAT BTK WAS FOCUSED 260 00:12:02,896 --> 00:12:06,376 ON TAUNTING THE POLICE BUT ALSO VERY 261 00:12:06,413 --> 00:12:08,553 FOCUSED ON JOURNALISTS, 262 00:12:08,586 --> 00:12:12,276 AND NO ONE KNEW WHO HE MIGHT TARGET NEXT. 263 00:12:12,310 --> 00:12:15,550 Rawson: I DIDN'T REALLY FOLLOW THE NEWS OF BTK IN 2004 264 00:12:15,586 --> 00:12:17,546 VERY CLOSELY -- IT WAS REALLY CRAZY, 265 00:12:17,586 --> 00:12:18,996 BUT IT FELT LIKE SOMEONE HAD 266 00:12:19,034 --> 00:12:21,864 COMMITTED THESE CRIMES A LONG TIME BEFORE YOU WERE BORN. 267 00:12:21,896 --> 00:12:23,926 IT WAS JUST THIS THING YOU READ ABOUT 268 00:12:23,965 --> 00:12:26,755 IN THE NEWS THAT WAS HAPPENING WHERE YOU GREW UP. 269 00:12:28,310 --> 00:12:30,790 Narrator: THE SERIAL KILLER'S SIXTH COMMUNICATION 270 00:12:30,827 --> 00:12:32,927 IS DISCOVERED BY A MAN WALKING IN 271 00:12:32,965 --> 00:12:36,475 A LOCAL PARK ON DECEMBER 13, 2004. 272 00:12:36,517 --> 00:12:38,787 Woman: A WHITE PLASTIC BAG INSIDE 273 00:12:38,827 --> 00:12:42,137 AN OBJECT WRAPPED IN PLASTIC AND A DRIVER'S LICENSE 274 00:12:42,172 --> 00:12:44,522 WITH THE NAME NANCY FOX. 275 00:12:44,551 --> 00:12:47,931 NANCY WAS KILLED IN 1977. 276 00:12:47,965 --> 00:12:49,825 Otis: THERE WAS A DOLL SENT DEPICTING HER, 277 00:12:49,862 --> 00:12:54,102 AND THE BONDAGE NOT ONLY MATCHED EXACTLY THE BONDAGE ON 278 00:12:54,137 --> 00:12:58,027 HER BODY WHEN SHE WAS FOUND MURDERED, BUT THE SAME COLORS. 279 00:12:58,068 --> 00:13:00,138 IT WAS 280 00:13:00,172 --> 00:13:03,172 VERY SHOCKING TO SEE A DOLL 281 00:13:03,206 --> 00:13:06,066 WITH THE EXACT SAME BONDAGE FROM 30 YEARS BEFORE. 282 00:13:06,103 --> 00:13:08,833 Narrator: BTK DELIGHTS IN THE GRISLY DETAILS 283 00:13:08,862 --> 00:13:11,142 OF HOW HE CHOSE NANCY, STALKED HER, 284 00:13:11,172 --> 00:13:14,692 BROKE INTO HER HOUSE, AND SUBDUED HER ON HER BED. 285 00:13:14,724 --> 00:13:16,104 Relph: "I TOLD HER I HAD A KNIFE 286 00:13:16,137 --> 00:13:19,477 "AND DISPLAYED THE MAGNUM IN MY SHOULDER HOLSTER. 287 00:13:19,517 --> 00:13:21,547 "WE TALKED ABOUT SEX AND THE HARM 288 00:13:21,586 --> 00:13:23,616 "IF SHE DIDN'T COOPERATE. 289 00:13:23,655 --> 00:13:25,855 "SHE LIT A SMOKE, AND FINALLY, SHE SAID, 290 00:13:25,896 --> 00:13:30,026 "'LET'S GET THIS OVER WITH SO I CAN CALL THE POLICE.' 291 00:13:30,068 --> 00:13:33,168 "I PULLED DOWN HER PANTIES, QUICKLY SLIPPED MY BELT OVER 292 00:13:33,206 --> 00:13:35,336 "HER HEAD AND ONTO THE NECK 293 00:13:35,379 --> 00:13:38,069 "AND PULLED TIGHT -- HER HANDS FOUND MY SCROTUM. 294 00:13:38,103 --> 00:13:40,383 "THIS INCREASED MY SEXUAL THRILL. 295 00:13:40,413 --> 00:13:42,453 "I SPOKE SOFTLY INTO HER LEFT EAR. 296 00:13:42,482 --> 00:13:45,212 "I WAS WANTED FOR THE OTEROS AND OTHER MURDERS, 297 00:13:45,241 --> 00:13:46,381 AND SHE WAS NEXT." 298 00:13:49,827 --> 00:13:52,687 Peters: FROM A WOMAN'S PERSPECTIVE, A BARBIE DOLL. 299 00:13:54,241 --> 00:13:56,141 IT WAS SO FRIGHTENING. 300 00:13:56,172 --> 00:14:01,972 IT WAS LIKE HE WAS TAUNTING EVERY FEMALE OUT THERE. 301 00:14:06,137 --> 00:14:08,827 Gouge: EVERY TIME WE WOULD GET A NEW PACKAGE, 302 00:14:08,862 --> 00:14:13,452 WE WOULD ALWAYS CHECK IT FOR FINGERPRINTS, DNA, 303 00:14:13,482 --> 00:14:17,832 SALIVA ON THE STAMPS OR ON THE SEALING OF THE ENVELOPE, 304 00:14:17,862 --> 00:14:22,342 BUT WE WERE NEVER ABLE TO COLLECT ANY EVIDENCE LIKE THAT. 305 00:14:22,379 --> 00:14:24,789 IT TOLD ME THAT HE WAS VERY CAREFUL, 306 00:14:24,827 --> 00:14:29,897 HAD KNOWLEDGE OF FORENSICS AND PROBABLY TOOK EXTRA STEPS TO 307 00:14:29,931 --> 00:14:33,211 MAKE SURE THAT HIS DNA AND FINGERPRINTS WEREN'T PRESENT. 308 00:14:35,034 --> 00:14:38,344 Narrator: THE NEXT COMMUNICATION, BTK'S SEVENTH, 309 00:14:38,379 --> 00:14:41,339 THREATENS TO GO MISSING FOREVER, COURTESY OF 310 00:14:41,379 --> 00:14:44,209 A HOME DEPOT AN EMPLOYEE WHO FINDS SOMETHING STRANGE 311 00:14:44,241 --> 00:14:46,691 IN THE BED OF HIS TRUCK. 312 00:14:46,724 --> 00:14:48,664 Kelly: HE SAW WHAT LOOKED LIKE TRASH. 313 00:14:48,689 --> 00:14:51,239 HE TOOK IT OUT, THREW IT IN THE DUMPSTER OUTSIDE OF 314 00:14:51,275 --> 00:14:54,235 HIS HOUSE, AND WENT ON VACATION. 315 00:14:56,103 --> 00:14:59,003 THAT EMPLOYEE DIDN'T REALIZE THE SIGNIFICANCE, 316 00:14:59,034 --> 00:15:02,414 DID NOT RECOGNIZE IT AS AN IMPORTANT CLUE. 317 00:15:02,448 --> 00:15:06,378 Narrator: ON JANUARY 25, 2005, KAKE-TV 318 00:15:06,413 --> 00:15:09,933 RECEIVES THE KILLER'S EIGHTH CONTACT, A POSTCARD. 319 00:15:09,965 --> 00:15:14,825 IT SAYS, "REFERENCE 69th AND 77th STREET 320 00:15:14,862 --> 00:15:16,662 "NORTH ON SENECA STREET. 321 00:15:16,689 --> 00:15:20,139 "CONTENTS -- POST TOASTIES BOX. 322 00:15:20,172 --> 00:15:23,762 "LET ME KNOW IF YOU OR PD 323 00:15:23,793 --> 00:15:26,283 "RECEIVED NUMBER SEVEN 324 00:15:26,310 --> 00:15:28,310 AT HOME DEPOT." 325 00:15:28,344 --> 00:15:29,974 Hatteberg: THE POLICE DEPARTMENT DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING 326 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,830 ABOUT THE PACKAGE AT HOME DEPOT. 327 00:15:32,862 --> 00:15:36,762 Peters: WE IMMEDIATELY WENT THAT DAY TO THE CORNER OF 328 00:15:36,793 --> 00:15:40,933 69th AND SENECA STREET AND FOUND THE POST TOASTIES BOX. 329 00:15:40,965 --> 00:15:43,545 THAT'S AN ISOLATED AREA IN BETWEEN VALLEY CENTER 330 00:15:43,586 --> 00:15:47,336 AND PARK CITY, AND THIS IS THE FIRST TIME BTK 331 00:15:47,379 --> 00:15:51,279 IS KNOWN TO HAVE MADE A DROP OUTSIDE WICHITA CITY LIMITS. 332 00:15:51,310 --> 00:15:54,520 Kelly: IT APPEARED THAT BTK HAD A SOPHOMORIC SENSE OF HUMOR, 333 00:15:54,551 --> 00:15:57,341 BECAUSE ON THE CEREAL BOX, HE'D WRITTEN "KILLER," 334 00:15:57,379 --> 00:15:59,379 AS IN SERIAL [ "CEREAL" ] KILLER. 335 00:16:01,275 --> 00:16:04,275 Peters: INSIDE THE POST TOASTIES BOX WAS ANOTHER BARBIE DOLL, 336 00:16:04,310 --> 00:16:07,450 WHICH WAS EVEN MORE FRIGHTENING THAN THE FIRST ONE, 337 00:16:07,482 --> 00:16:09,662 BECAUSE THIS ONE WAS JOSIE OTERO. 338 00:16:11,448 --> 00:16:14,168 THIS BARBIE DOLL HAD A NOOSE AROUND HER NECK, 339 00:16:14,206 --> 00:16:17,166 WHICH WAS TIED TO A PIPE 340 00:16:17,206 --> 00:16:19,756 JUST LIKE JOSIE OTERO. 341 00:16:21,862 --> 00:16:25,622 AS A WOMAN, IT WAS NOT ONLY HORRIFYING, 342 00:16:25,655 --> 00:16:29,095 BUT IT MADE YOU WANT TO GET SICK TO YOUR STOMACH. 343 00:16:30,724 --> 00:16:34,414 WE KNEW THAT HE WAS CONTINUING TO 344 00:16:34,448 --> 00:16:39,308 GET THRILLS, TO BECOME EXCITED OVER ALL THIS. 345 00:16:39,344 --> 00:16:41,724 WE KNEW HE WAS CAPABLE OF ANOTHER KILLING. 346 00:16:41,758 --> 00:16:45,968 WE KNEW HE WAS CAPABLE OF THREE MORE KILLINGS, 347 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,210 AND WE WERE DEFINITELY AFRAID. 348 00:16:52,344 --> 00:16:54,384 Peters: THE POST TOASTIES BOX WAS FOUND ON 349 00:16:54,413 --> 00:16:58,143 SENECA STREET BETWEEN 69th AND 77th STREETS NORTH. 350 00:16:58,172 --> 00:17:00,212 Narrator: AT THE SAME TIME AS THEY ARE RECOVERING 351 00:17:00,241 --> 00:17:02,621 THE POST TOASTIES BOX, KAKE STAFF 352 00:17:02,655 --> 00:17:06,065 CONTACT POLICE AND ALERT THEM TO THE LINE IN BTK'S MOST 353 00:17:06,103 --> 00:17:08,103 RECENT POSTCARD THAT MENTIONS 354 00:17:08,137 --> 00:17:11,377 A PACKAGE LEFT EARLIER AT HOME DEPOT. 355 00:17:11,413 --> 00:17:13,973 DETECTIVES ARE MYSTIFIED. 356 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,100 Otis: WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY KIND OF A PACKAGE DROP 357 00:17:16,137 --> 00:17:18,967 RECOVERED THAT WE KNEW OF FROM HOME DEPOT. 358 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:20,830 I IMMEDIATELY CALLED LIEUTENANT LANDWEHR, 359 00:17:20,862 --> 00:17:22,552 AND HE BEGAN ASSIGNING DETECTIVES 360 00:17:22,586 --> 00:17:25,166 TO HIT BOTH HOME DEPOT STORES IN WICHITA. 361 00:17:25,206 --> 00:17:27,206 Narrator: INVESTIGATORS COME UP EMPTY, 362 00:17:27,241 --> 00:17:30,761 SO THEY PUT UP NOTICES ASKING EMPLOYEES TO COME FORWARD IF 363 00:17:30,793 --> 00:17:33,143 THEY RECENTLY FOUND SOMETHING STRANGE. 364 00:17:33,172 --> 00:17:35,622 THE NEXT NIGHT, I GET A PHONE CALL FROM THE 911 DISPATCH 365 00:17:35,655 --> 00:17:38,025 CENTER THAT A HOME DEPOT EMPLOYEE WHO HAD BEEN OUT OF 366 00:17:38,068 --> 00:17:41,588 TOWN AND RETURNED HOME AND SAW THE NOTE IN THE BREAK ROOM, 367 00:17:41,620 --> 00:17:43,690 AND HE BELIEVED HE HAD SOMETHING TO REPORT -- 368 00:17:43,724 --> 00:17:46,034 A CEREAL BOX IN THE BED OF HIS PICKUP. 369 00:17:46,068 --> 00:17:49,238 HE THREW IT IN HIS TRASH, AND HE BELIEVED 370 00:17:49,275 --> 00:17:50,515 THAT WHILE HE WAS OUT OF TOWN, 371 00:17:50,551 --> 00:17:54,451 THE TRASH HAD BEEN HAULED OFF AND TAKEN TO THE LANDFILL. 372 00:17:54,482 --> 00:17:57,342 I CONTACTED LIEUTENANT LANDWEHR IMMEDIATELY, 373 00:17:57,379 --> 00:18:00,859 AND WE STARTED PREPARING A POLICE RECRUIT CLASS TO START 374 00:18:00,896 --> 00:18:02,586 THE NEXT MORNING, 375 00:18:02,620 --> 00:18:04,210 DIGGING AROUND IN A LANDFILL WITH 376 00:18:04,241 --> 00:18:06,691 A ONE-IN-A-MILLION CHANCE OF FINDING THIS BOX. 377 00:18:06,724 --> 00:18:08,694 ABOUT AN HOUR AND A HALF LATER, I GET A PHONE CALL FROM 378 00:18:08,724 --> 00:18:09,764 THE SAME MAN, AND HE SAID, 379 00:18:09,793 --> 00:18:11,623 "I'M SORRY, THE BOX IS STILL HERE, 380 00:18:11,655 --> 00:18:12,855 AND I HAVE IT IN MY KITCHEN." 381 00:18:15,586 --> 00:18:18,716 WELL, THAT EMPLOYEE HAD NOT TAKEN HIS TRASH OUT 382 00:18:18,758 --> 00:18:20,208 TO THE CURB, SO IT WAS STILL THERE, 383 00:18:20,241 --> 00:18:22,861 LIKE, A WEEK LATER, FORTUNATELY. 384 00:18:22,896 --> 00:18:25,236 IF THAT BOX WOULD HAVE MADE THE LANDFILL, 385 00:18:25,275 --> 00:18:27,515 THE ODDS OF RECOVERING IT 386 00:18:27,551 --> 00:18:29,831 WOULD HAVE BEEN ASTRONOMICAL. 387 00:18:29,862 --> 00:18:31,792 THE FACT THAT 388 00:18:31,827 --> 00:18:33,617 THIS GENTLEMAN PUT IT IN THE TRASH AND THEN DIDN'T 389 00:18:33,655 --> 00:18:35,825 HAUL IT TO THE STREET WAS CERTAINLY IN OUR FAVOR. 390 00:18:37,620 --> 00:18:39,720 Kelly: THE CEREAL BOX WAS A REAL TURNING POINT 391 00:18:39,758 --> 00:18:40,968 IN THE INVESTIGATION. 392 00:18:42,827 --> 00:18:45,237 Otis: INSIDE OF THAT CEREAL BOX WERE SEVERAL ITEMS, 393 00:18:45,275 --> 00:18:47,995 BUT ONE OF THEM WAS A POSTCARD-SIZED WRITING, 394 00:18:49,482 --> 00:18:52,242 AND ON THE BOTTOM OF IT, BTK ASKED... 395 00:18:52,275 --> 00:18:53,965 "CAN I COMMUNICATE WITH FLOPPY AND NOT BE TRACED 396 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,100 TO A COMPUTER -- BE HONEST." 397 00:18:58,862 --> 00:19:01,522 Otis: I BELIEVED THAT THIS WAS ANOTHER TRICK. 398 00:19:01,551 --> 00:19:05,311 MY FEAR WAS THAT HE WOULD SEND US A FLOPPY DISK, 399 00:19:05,344 --> 00:19:07,934 KNOWING THAT WE COULD GET INFORMATION FROM IT, 400 00:19:07,965 --> 00:19:10,965 THAT IT WOULD LEAD US TO MAYBE A FALSE SUSPECT, 401 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:12,620 AND THEN HE'D KNOW WE LIED TO HIM. 402 00:19:16,344 --> 00:19:18,834 Narrator: OFFICERS DESCEND ON HOME DEPOT TO 403 00:19:18,862 --> 00:19:21,522 REVIEW THEIR PARKING LOT SURVEILLANCE FOOTAGE. 404 00:19:21,551 --> 00:19:24,001 Gouge: THIS IS POSSIBLY THE OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO 405 00:19:24,034 --> 00:19:27,484 ACTUALLY GET A LOOK AT BTK. 406 00:19:27,517 --> 00:19:30,517 BECAUSE NOW THAT WE HAVE THE EMPLOYEE, AND WE KNEW WHAT 407 00:19:30,551 --> 00:19:33,521 TIME HE GOT OFF AND WHERE HE PARKED, WE STARTED LOOKING AT 408 00:19:33,551 --> 00:19:35,901 THE SURVEILLANCE VIDEO FROM THE TIME OF THE DROP. 409 00:19:37,965 --> 00:19:41,165 THE VIDEO WAS VERY GRAINY, AND THE EMPLOYEE WAS PARKED WAY 410 00:19:41,206 --> 00:19:42,336 FAR AWAY FROM THE STORE. 411 00:19:42,379 --> 00:19:46,209 AND YOU CAN SEE WHAT APPEARS TO BE A PERSON, 412 00:19:46,241 --> 00:19:48,551 BUT IT LOOKS LIKE A STICK FIGURE. 413 00:19:48,586 --> 00:19:50,206 NO MATTER HOW HARD YOU STARE AT, 414 00:19:50,241 --> 00:19:53,411 NO MATTER HOW LONG YOU LOOK AT IT, 415 00:19:53,448 --> 00:19:56,138 AND NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU WANT TO BE 416 00:19:56,172 --> 00:19:59,452 ABLE TO TELL SOMETHING MORE ABOUT THE PERSON, YOU CAN'T. 417 00:19:59,482 --> 00:20:01,452 Otis: YOU COULD SEE 418 00:20:01,482 --> 00:20:04,932 A BLOBBY FIGURE GET OUT OF THE SUV AND STAND 419 00:20:04,965 --> 00:20:06,755 AT THE BACK OF THE PICKUP FOR A SHORT TIME. 420 00:20:08,137 --> 00:20:10,827 THERE WAS NO WAY TO IDENTIFY THE PERSON THAT GOT OUT, 421 00:20:10,862 --> 00:20:12,522 BUT THERE WAS NO DOUBT THAT IT WAS BTK. 422 00:20:16,379 --> 00:20:19,309 Narrator: CAREFUL ANALYSIS OF THE VIDEO DETERMINES THE VEHICLE 423 00:20:19,344 --> 00:20:23,764 THE SUSPECT WAS DRIVING IS SPECIFICALLY A JEEP CHEROKEE. 424 00:20:23,793 --> 00:20:26,553 THIS WAS TRULY THE FIRST PIECE OF EVIDENCE 425 00:20:26,586 --> 00:20:29,586 WE HAD THAT BTK DIDN'T GIVE US. 426 00:20:31,448 --> 00:20:33,028 ALL OF THE EVIDENCE WE WERE WORKING WITH 427 00:20:33,068 --> 00:20:35,478 DURING THE TASK FORCE TIMES 428 00:20:35,517 --> 00:20:38,477 WAS GIVEN TO US BY BTK. 429 00:20:38,517 --> 00:20:41,757 THIS WAS THE FIRST PIECE OF EVIDENCE WE HAD 430 00:20:41,793 --> 00:20:45,033 THAT BTK DIDN'T KNOW WE HAD. 431 00:20:45,068 --> 00:20:47,378 Narrator: THIS REVELATION, TOGETHER WITH THE KILLER'S 432 00:20:47,413 --> 00:20:49,553 INQUIRY ABOUT SENDING A FLOPPY DISK, 433 00:20:49,586 --> 00:20:52,826 INSPIRES BOTH HOPE AND CAUTION IN THE TASK FORCE. 434 00:20:55,206 --> 00:20:57,236 Gouge: IF THERE'S A FILE ON A FLOPPY DISK, 435 00:20:57,275 --> 00:21:01,715 THERE'S GONNA BE INFORMATION THAT A COMPUTER FORENSIC EXPERT 436 00:21:01,758 --> 00:21:05,618 WILL BE ABLE TO EXTRACT TO HELP IDENTIFY AT LEAST THE LOCATION 437 00:21:05,655 --> 00:21:08,305 OR THE COMPUTER THAT WAS USED TO WRITE THAT FILE. 438 00:21:10,206 --> 00:21:14,966 BTK ASKED US TO BE HONEST IN OUR RESPONSE IN THE NEWSPAPER, 439 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:18,620 AND THE RESPONSE WAS TO BE, "REX, IT'LL BE OKAY." 440 00:21:18,655 --> 00:21:22,165 AND SO WE PUT THAT AD IN THE PAPER FOR A WEEK, 441 00:21:24,448 --> 00:21:25,928 AND THEN THE WAITING GAME STARTED. 442 00:21:28,551 --> 00:21:30,661 Narrator: LESS THAN TWO WEEKS LATER, 443 00:21:30,689 --> 00:21:35,449 A SUSPICIOUS PACKAGE ARRIVES AT ANOTHER WICHITA TV STATION, 444 00:21:35,482 --> 00:21:37,102 KSAS-TV. 445 00:21:38,758 --> 00:21:42,168 IT WAS A SMALL ENVELOPE -- IT HAS A FEW THINGS IN THERE, 446 00:21:42,206 --> 00:21:44,656 SOME MORE JEWELRY THAT WOULD BE FROM A VICTIM 447 00:21:44,689 --> 00:21:46,099 FROM BACK IN THE DAY, 448 00:21:46,137 --> 00:21:47,967 AND THEN THERE'S A PURPLE FLOPPY DISK. 449 00:21:50,965 --> 00:21:52,925 Gouge: I THOUGHT, THIS IS FANTASTIC. 450 00:21:52,965 --> 00:21:56,375 I CAN'T WAIT TO GIVE THIS TO OUR COMPUTER FORENSICS EXPERT, 451 00:21:56,413 --> 00:21:58,413 AND OUR FORENSIC COMPUTER GUY SAID, WELL, 452 00:21:58,448 --> 00:22:00,618 THE FIRST THING WE NEED TO DO IS X-RAY IT, 453 00:22:00,655 --> 00:22:01,855 BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IT 454 00:22:01,896 --> 00:22:04,996 DOESN'T HAVE SOME KIND OF EXPLOSIVE OR SOME KIND OF 455 00:22:05,034 --> 00:22:06,594 AN INCENDIARY DEVICE. 456 00:22:06,620 --> 00:22:09,310 WE ALL THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS BTK'S SPEED, 457 00:22:09,344 --> 00:22:10,724 THAT HE WAS THAT SMART. 458 00:22:12,068 --> 00:22:14,028 AND THEN THE FORENSIC COMPUTER GUY SAID, 459 00:22:14,068 --> 00:22:16,238 WE'RE GONNA PUT IT IN A NON-NETWORKED COMPUTER, 460 00:22:16,275 --> 00:22:18,685 IN CASE IT'S FULL OF A VIRUS, 461 00:22:18,724 --> 00:22:21,934 AND WE'LL USE SOME FORENSIC SOFTWARE TO GET INTO WHATEVER 462 00:22:21,965 --> 00:22:24,335 IS ON THAT DISK AND SEE WHERE IT LEADS US. 463 00:22:26,241 --> 00:22:28,281 Relph: THE TWO THINGS THAT -- THAT SHOT OUT IMMEDIATELY 464 00:22:28,310 --> 00:22:30,620 WAS THAT THE DISK HAD BEEN IN A COMPUTER 465 00:22:30,655 --> 00:22:34,965 IN PARK CITY AND ALSO IN A CHRIST LUTHERAN CHURCH. 466 00:22:36,068 --> 00:22:38,448 Gouge: THE FILE THAT WAS ON IT HAD BEEN PRINTED 467 00:22:38,482 --> 00:22:40,172 BY A USER NAMED DENNIS. 468 00:22:42,448 --> 00:22:44,618 WENT TO -- I THINK IT WAS A GOOGLE SEARCH 469 00:22:44,655 --> 00:22:46,655 AND FOUND CHRIST LUTHERAN CHURCH, 470 00:22:46,689 --> 00:22:48,929 AND WHEN HE CLICKED ON THE OFFICERS, 471 00:22:48,965 --> 00:22:51,065 THERE WAS A PICTURE OF A MAN NAMED DENNIS RADER, 472 00:22:51,103 --> 00:22:53,033 AND HE WAS THE CONGREGATIONAL PRESIDENT. 473 00:22:55,241 --> 00:22:57,791 Relph: DENNIS RADER, CHRIST LUTHERAN CHURCH, 474 00:22:57,827 --> 00:23:00,277 WERE BROUGHT TOGETHER -- BY THAT POINT, 475 00:23:00,310 --> 00:23:03,550 EVERYBODY KNEW THIS WAS -- THIS WAS THE DOMINO 476 00:23:03,586 --> 00:23:04,826 THAT WAS GONNA START IT ALL. 477 00:23:04,862 --> 00:23:08,862 ANOTHER DETECTIVE LOOKS UP DENNIS RADER'S ADDRESS, 478 00:23:08,896 --> 00:23:11,686 AND THEN WE DROVE TO PARK CITY 479 00:23:11,724 --> 00:23:12,934 AS FAST AS WE COULD. 480 00:23:16,137 --> 00:23:17,717 Otis: THERE WAS A BLACK JEEP CHEROKEE IN THE DRIVEWAY. 481 00:23:17,758 --> 00:23:22,858 ♪♪ 482 00:23:22,896 --> 00:23:24,446 AND THEN IT WAS ON. 483 00:23:24,482 --> 00:23:26,102 IT WAS GAME ON. 484 00:23:26,137 --> 00:23:29,207 ♪♪ 485 00:23:33,137 --> 00:23:36,307 Narrator: INVESTIGATORS HAVE TRACKED BTK SUSPECT, 486 00:23:36,344 --> 00:23:39,524 DENNIS RADER, TO HIS HOME IN PARK CITY. 487 00:23:39,551 --> 00:23:41,101 Relph: I CALLED KENNY, AND I SAID, YOU KNOW, 488 00:23:41,137 --> 00:23:43,617 CALL EVERY POLICEMAN ON DUTY. THAT GUY'S 100 FEET AWAY, 489 00:23:43,655 --> 00:23:45,165 I'LL GO RIP THAT DOOR OFF THE HINGES RIGHT NOW, 490 00:23:45,206 --> 00:23:46,406 'CAUSE WE CAUGHT HIM. 491 00:23:46,448 --> 00:23:49,478 Narrator: BUT LIEUTENANT LANDWEHR CALLS OFF HIS TROOPS, 492 00:23:49,517 --> 00:23:53,757 PUTS DENNIS RADER UNDER 24-HOUR SURVEILLANCE, AND MAKES IT 493 00:23:53,793 --> 00:23:57,723 A PRIORITY TO GET THE SUSPECT'S DNA FOR COMPARISON. 494 00:23:57,758 --> 00:24:01,238 THEY TURN TO A SURPRISING SOURCE. 495 00:24:01,275 --> 00:24:03,405 Rawson: I HAD ATTENDED COLLEGE AT KANSAS STATE. 496 00:24:03,448 --> 00:24:05,998 SOME DETECTIVES HAD GONE TO KANSAS STATE, 497 00:24:06,034 --> 00:24:09,074 TO THE HEALTH CENTER AND HAD, UM, 498 00:24:09,103 --> 00:24:12,003 GOTTEN A WARRANT FOR MY MEDICAL RECORDS. 499 00:24:13,896 --> 00:24:15,756 THEY FOUND OUT I HAD HAD 500 00:24:15,793 --> 00:24:18,413 SLIDES OF, LIKE, A PAP SMEAR, 501 00:24:18,448 --> 00:24:21,658 AND THEN GOT MY DNA OUT OF THAT. 502 00:24:21,689 --> 00:24:23,999 I RECALL IT AS BEING THE LONGEST 503 00:24:24,034 --> 00:24:25,384 TWO DAYS IN THE WORLD. 504 00:24:27,344 --> 00:24:28,484 Otis: AND I'LL NEVER FORGET, 505 00:24:28,517 --> 00:24:30,517 THE LIEUTENANT CALLED ME AND SAID, "GOT THE DNA BACK. 506 00:24:30,551 --> 00:24:32,031 "IT'S HIM. 507 00:24:32,068 --> 00:24:35,338 WE'RE GONNA COME IN IN THE MORNING AND START UP." 508 00:24:35,379 --> 00:24:36,449 THERE WAS NO WAY I WAS STAYING HOME. 509 00:24:38,310 --> 00:24:40,030 THERE WAS NOTHING TO DO. I WASN'T GONNA SLEEP. 510 00:24:41,793 --> 00:24:45,723 SO I'LL GO UP AND CONTINUE TO WORK AND GET READY FOR THIS. 511 00:24:45,758 --> 00:24:46,718 I PULL INTO THE BUILDING, 512 00:24:46,758 --> 00:24:48,138 I GO UP TO OUR TASK FORCE OFFICE, 513 00:24:48,172 --> 00:24:49,552 I WALK IN, AND EVERYBODY'S THERE. 514 00:24:53,620 --> 00:24:54,660 NOBODY STAYED HOME. 515 00:24:56,620 --> 00:24:58,660 AND JUST THAT LITTLE MOMENT, LITTLE MOMENTS LIKE THAT, 516 00:24:58,689 --> 00:25:02,449 IT WAS FINALLY OVER, BECAUSE IT WAS A LONG TIME, 517 00:25:02,482 --> 00:25:03,522 HAD BEEN A LONG RUN. 518 00:25:03,551 --> 00:25:11,591 ♪♪ 519 00:25:11,620 --> 00:25:15,030 Gouge: INITIALLY, THE DEPARTMENT WANTED THE SWAT TEAM TO 520 00:25:15,068 --> 00:25:16,238 ARREST DENNIS RADER, 521 00:25:16,275 --> 00:25:19,755 BUT WE HAD BEEN WORKING ON THIS CASE FOR ABOUT A YEAR. 522 00:25:19,793 --> 00:25:21,103 WE HAD A LOT INVESTED IN IT. 523 00:25:21,137 --> 00:25:25,277 WE ARE COPS, AND WE'VE ARRESTED MURDERERS IN THE PAST. 524 00:25:25,310 --> 00:25:27,590 WE WERE QUALIFIED TO ACTUALLY DO THIS ARREST. 525 00:25:27,620 --> 00:25:29,240 LIEUTENANT LANDWEHR LOOKED AT THE CHIEF AND SAID, 526 00:25:29,275 --> 00:25:31,995 "MY GUYS WANT TO TAKE HIM," AND THE CHIEF SAID, "GO GET HIM." 527 00:25:33,482 --> 00:25:36,342 ONCE WE IDENTIFIED RADER AS THE KILLER, 528 00:25:36,379 --> 00:25:38,689 WE LEARNED THAT HE WAS A COMPLIANCE OFFICER. 529 00:25:38,724 --> 00:25:40,594 HE WAS KIND OF A JACK-OF-ALL-TRADES 530 00:25:40,620 --> 00:25:43,550 WHEN IT CAME TO INSPECTIONS FOR THE CITY OF PARK CITY. 531 00:25:43,586 --> 00:25:45,686 HIS OFFICE WAS IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, 532 00:25:45,724 --> 00:25:48,074 SO WE COULDN'T TELL ANYBODY IN THE CITY OF PARK CITY 533 00:25:48,103 --> 00:25:49,523 WHAT WE WERE DOING, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T KNOW 534 00:25:49,551 --> 00:25:50,971 WHO HE WAS TIGHT WITH. 535 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:52,970 IF WE TOLD THE MAYOR, IF THE MAYOR WOULD TELL ONE 536 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,550 MORE PERSON, AND THEN DENNIS RADER WOULD FIND OUT. 537 00:25:55,586 --> 00:25:57,166 SO WE DECIDED WE'RE NOT TELLING ANYBODY. 538 00:26:01,413 --> 00:26:04,143 Relph: WE ALL GOT READY, AND GOD, 539 00:26:04,172 --> 00:26:06,592 THERE WAS ALL KINDS OF PHASES OF PLANNING, MAN. 540 00:26:06,620 --> 00:26:07,660 THEY WERE GONNA HAVE A PLANE 541 00:26:07,689 --> 00:26:09,279 AND ALL KINDS OF CRAZY [BLEEP]. 542 00:26:09,310 --> 00:26:11,520 I MEAN, GOD, WE HAD A TANK -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE WERE DOING 543 00:26:11,551 --> 00:26:14,691 WITH A TANK, BUT, UH, UM -- WE HAD A HELICOPTER. 544 00:26:14,724 --> 00:26:17,074 I DIDN'T KNOW IF WE WERE GONNA ARREST SOMEBODY OR INVADE 545 00:26:17,103 --> 00:26:18,723 A SMALL COUNTRY, BUT WE WERE READY, 546 00:26:18,758 --> 00:26:20,238 AND I DON'T CARE IF HE WAS JAMES BOND, 547 00:26:20,275 --> 00:26:21,305 HE WASN'T GONNA GET AWAY FROM US. 548 00:26:25,689 --> 00:26:28,239 SO WE GOT IN OUR POSITIONS, AND WE -- 549 00:26:28,275 --> 00:26:30,785 WE HEARD HE WAS JUST GOING -- WE WERE PARKED ON -- 550 00:26:30,827 --> 00:26:32,757 RIGHT BESIDE A FRONTAGE ROAD 551 00:26:32,793 --> 00:26:34,213 THAT HE CAME DOWN EVERY DAY, BECAUSE HE GOES HOME 552 00:26:34,241 --> 00:26:35,341 EVERY DAY FOR LUNCH. 553 00:26:35,379 --> 00:26:39,339 [ SIRENS WAILING ] 554 00:26:39,379 --> 00:26:42,239 [ SIRENS WAILING ] 555 00:26:42,275 --> 00:26:44,405 Otis: UNIFORMED OFFICERS PULLED HIM OVER. 556 00:26:44,448 --> 00:26:46,758 BY THE TIME DENNIS RADER PUT HIS TRUCK IN PARK, 557 00:26:46,793 --> 00:26:48,343 THERE WERE DETECTIVES AT HIS DOOR. 558 00:26:50,172 --> 00:26:52,032 Gouge: WE HAD THIS GUY IN CUSTODY. 559 00:26:53,586 --> 00:26:55,656 IT WAS SO EXCITING THAT I WAS 560 00:26:55,689 --> 00:26:58,759 SELECTED TO PUT THE HANDCUFFS ON HIM. 561 00:27:00,413 --> 00:27:03,073 SEARCHED HIM, STOOD HIM UP, 562 00:27:03,103 --> 00:27:05,483 AND HE LOOKED AT US AND SAID, 563 00:27:05,517 --> 00:27:08,477 "WOULD YOU PLEASE TELL MY WIFE I'LL BE LATE FOR LUNCH? 564 00:27:08,517 --> 00:27:10,447 I ASSUME YOU KNOW WHERE I LIVE." 565 00:27:10,482 --> 00:27:12,972 Narrator: THE SUSPECT IS LED TO A CAR WHICH HAS BEEN WIRED 566 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,340 WITH CAMERAS AND WHERE LIEUTENANT KEN LANDWEHR 567 00:27:16,379 --> 00:27:17,829 WAITS TO MEET HIM. 568 00:27:17,862 --> 00:27:19,522 Relph: BUT HE DIDN'T ASK, WHY DID SOMEBODY 569 00:27:19,551 --> 00:27:20,551 JUST PULL ME OUT OF MY TRUCK? 570 00:27:20,586 --> 00:27:23,166 WHY IS SOME -- A BOOT IS ON MY NECK, AND HE SAID, 571 00:27:23,206 --> 00:27:25,276 "HELLO, MR. LANDWEHR." 572 00:27:25,310 --> 00:27:27,170 RIGHT THEN, IT WAS OVER FOR SURE. 573 00:27:27,206 --> 00:27:28,966 WE KNEW WE HAD HIM. 574 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:30,380 FROM THE TIME WE PUT HIM IN THE CAR, 575 00:27:30,413 --> 00:27:32,483 WE WENT FLYIN'. 576 00:27:32,517 --> 00:27:34,277 WE DIDN'T STOP TILL WE WERE DEEP 577 00:27:34,310 --> 00:27:36,660 INTO THE BASEMENT OF THE EPIC CENTER. 578 00:27:36,689 --> 00:27:39,279 Narrator: DENNIS RADER'S DNA IS COLLECTED. 579 00:27:39,310 --> 00:27:42,140 HE'S INTERROGATED FOR OVER 30 HOURS 580 00:27:42,172 --> 00:27:44,722 WHILE OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT WATCH REMOTELY. 581 00:28:02,137 --> 00:28:04,477 Gouge: THE INTERVIEW WAS STARTED BY LIEUTENANT LANDWEHR 582 00:28:04,517 --> 00:28:06,207 AND THE FBI AGENT, 583 00:28:06,241 --> 00:28:08,481 AND THERE WAS A LOT OF JUST TALKING 584 00:28:08,517 --> 00:28:11,137 BACK AND FORTH WITH HIM, GENERAL CONVERSATIONS ABOUT 585 00:28:11,172 --> 00:28:15,412 WHO HE WAS BEFORE HE'S FINALLY ACTUALLY CONFRONTED. 586 00:28:16,620 --> 00:28:20,070 LANDWEHR SHOWS HIM THE FLOPPY DISK AND EXPLAINS 587 00:28:20,103 --> 00:28:23,413 TO HIM HOW COMPUTER FORENSICS EXPERTS WERE ABLE TO 588 00:28:23,448 --> 00:28:25,168 IDENTIFY HIM. 589 00:28:25,206 --> 00:28:28,066 HE WAS REALLY KIND OF UPSET ABOUT THAT, 590 00:28:28,103 --> 00:28:31,243 AND HE INTERRUPTED LANDWEHR AND SAID, 591 00:28:31,275 --> 00:28:33,335 "WHY DID YOU LIE TO ME?" 592 00:28:38,482 --> 00:28:41,002 AND LANDWEHR'S LIKE, WELL, YOU KNOW, 593 00:28:41,034 --> 00:28:42,314 I WAS TRYING TO CATCH YOU. 594 00:28:43,689 --> 00:28:46,789 THAT WAS AMAZING TO ME. 595 00:28:46,827 --> 00:28:48,787 RADER THOUGHT THAT LANDWEHR WAS 596 00:28:48,827 --> 00:28:50,827 DOING THIS FOR THE FUN OF IT, 597 00:28:50,862 --> 00:28:53,452 THAT THEY HAD A GOOD THING GOING. 598 00:28:53,482 --> 00:28:56,032 IT WASN'T LONG AFTER THAT THAT THE FBI AGENT SAID, 599 00:28:56,068 --> 00:28:57,208 "JUST TELL US WHO YOU ARE." 600 00:28:58,724 --> 00:29:01,624 AND HE SAID, "I'M BTK," AND THEN HE REPEATED IT. 601 00:29:01,655 --> 00:29:09,965 ♪♪ 602 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,310 Rawson: I AM THE DAUGHTER OF DENNIS RADER, 603 00:29:12,344 --> 00:29:16,144 WHO IS OTHERWISE KNOWN AS THE BTK SERIAL KILLER, 604 00:29:16,172 --> 00:29:19,382 WHO MURDERED 10 INNOCENT PEOPLE IN THE DECADES 605 00:29:19,413 --> 00:29:21,383 BETWEEN THE '70s AND THE '90s. 606 00:29:21,413 --> 00:29:28,623 ♪♪ 607 00:29:28,655 --> 00:29:31,235 Rawson: I MET MY HUSBAND, DARIAN, IN 1998. 608 00:29:31,275 --> 00:29:33,965 I WAS A JUNIOR IN COLLEGE, AND HE WAS A FRESHMAN. 609 00:29:35,448 --> 00:29:38,238 WE DATED FOR THREE YEARS, AND THEN WE GOT ENGAGED, 610 00:29:38,275 --> 00:29:41,235 AND WE GOT MARRIED IN THE SUMMER OF 2003. 611 00:29:42,965 --> 00:29:44,755 MY DAD HELPED US MOVE TO MICHIGAN, 612 00:29:44,793 --> 00:29:46,213 AND THAT'S WHERE I STARTED SUBSTITUTE TEACHING 613 00:29:46,241 --> 00:29:47,971 IN THE FALL OF 2004. 614 00:29:55,413 --> 00:29:58,523 [ KNOCK ON DOOR ] 615 00:29:58,551 --> 00:30:00,001 I HEARD A KNOCK ON MY DOOR, 616 00:30:00,034 --> 00:30:02,554 AND SO, LIKE, I BARELY OPENED THE DOOR, 617 00:30:02,586 --> 00:30:04,476 BECAUSE MY DAD HAD ALWAYS, LIKE, 618 00:30:04,517 --> 00:30:06,137 TAUGHT ME TO BE WARY OF STRANGERS, 619 00:30:06,172 --> 00:30:11,242 BE CAREFUL WITH, LIKE, PEOPLE TRYING TO COME INTO YOUR HOUSE. 620 00:30:11,275 --> 00:30:12,965 HE SAID HE WAS THE FBI. 621 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,100 HE'S LIKE, "ARE YOU KERRI RAWSON? 622 00:30:15,137 --> 00:30:16,337 "IS YOUR DAD DENNIS RADER? 623 00:30:16,379 --> 00:30:17,549 ARE YOU FROM WICHITA?" 624 00:30:17,586 --> 00:30:18,856 AND I WAS LIKE, "YES." 625 00:30:18,896 --> 00:30:22,966 AND THEN HE'S LIKE, "YOUR DAD IS BTK." 626 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,660 AND THAT'S WHEN, LIKE, THIS MASSIVE DISCONNECT 627 00:30:25,689 --> 00:30:30,789 JUST SORT OF, LIKE, HITS, AND I GO INTO SHOCK. 628 00:30:30,827 --> 00:30:34,687 AND I'M NOT REALLY COMPREHENDING WHAT HE'S TRYING TO SAY. 629 00:30:34,724 --> 00:30:36,664 AND SO IT'S SORT OF LIKE TIME WAS STARTING TO, LIKE, 630 00:30:36,689 --> 00:30:38,859 CUT IN AND OUT FOR ME. 631 00:30:38,896 --> 00:30:41,376 WHILE THE FBI AGENT WAS INTERVIEWING ME, 632 00:30:41,413 --> 00:30:45,313 MY HUSBAND WAS RIGHT NEXT TO ME THE WHOLE TIME HOLDING MY HAND. 633 00:30:45,344 --> 00:30:47,484 IT WAS JUST VERY INTENSE. 634 00:30:47,517 --> 00:30:49,137 LIKE, YOU'RE OUT OF YOUR BODY. 635 00:30:49,172 --> 00:30:51,762 YOU'RE JUST IN SHOCK, AND YOU'RE JUST CONFUSED. 636 00:30:51,793 --> 00:30:55,723 NOTHING'S RIGHT, AND EVERYTHING'S JUST CRAZY. 637 00:30:55,758 --> 00:30:58,518 Narrator: AT THE SAME TIME, BACK IN KANSAS, 638 00:30:58,551 --> 00:31:02,551 KERRI'S MOTHER IS ALSO GETTING THE DEVASTATING NEWS. 639 00:31:02,586 --> 00:31:06,096 Otis: DENNIS RADER'S WIFE WAS INITIALLY 640 00:31:06,137 --> 00:31:09,337 COMPLETELY DEFENSIVE OF HIM. 641 00:31:09,379 --> 00:31:11,719 "THERE'S NO WAY. YOU GOT THE WRONG GUY." 642 00:31:11,758 --> 00:31:14,278 SHE WAS VERY, VERY ANGRY AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT 643 00:31:14,310 --> 00:31:17,170 AND US FOR ARRESTING HER HUSBAND. 644 00:31:20,034 --> 00:31:22,794 Rawson: ONE OF MY BIGGEST FEARS WAS HOME INVASION, 645 00:31:22,827 --> 00:31:26,927 SO, HERE'S THIS VERY SURREAL MOMENT OF THIS STRANGER 646 00:31:26,965 --> 00:31:29,925 IN YOUR HOUSE NOW NOTIFYING YOU THAT YOUR DAD 647 00:31:29,965 --> 00:31:32,825 IS SOMEBODY THAT INVADED PEOPLE'S HOMES. 648 00:31:32,862 --> 00:31:35,902 BUT IT, LIKE -- IT CLICKED THAT OUR NEIGHBOR, 649 00:31:35,931 --> 00:31:38,931 MRS. HEDGE, HAD BEEN MURDERED, 650 00:31:38,965 --> 00:31:41,545 AND SO I TOLD THE AGENT WHEN I WAS 6, 651 00:31:41,586 --> 00:31:44,096 MRS. HEDGE WAS STRANGLED, 652 00:31:44,137 --> 00:31:47,237 AND THEN IN MY HEAD, IT ROLLS -- BTK STRANGLES WOMEN, 653 00:31:47,275 --> 00:31:49,855 'CAUSE I KNEW THAT FROM READING ABOUT HIM. 654 00:31:49,896 --> 00:31:53,856 AND IT WAS LIKE SOMETHING DEEP SUNK IN ME 655 00:31:53,896 --> 00:31:57,406 THAT IT COULD BE MY DAD. 656 00:31:57,448 --> 00:31:59,658 BECAUSE I HAD A MEMORY OF, 657 00:31:59,689 --> 00:32:01,929 LIKE, SLEEPING WITH MY MOM IN THE BED 658 00:32:01,965 --> 00:32:05,065 'CAUSE OF A THUNDERSTORM AND I KNEW MY DAD WAS GONE THAT NIGHT. 659 00:32:05,103 --> 00:32:06,763 AND SO I TOLD THE AGENT, 660 00:32:06,793 --> 00:32:10,383 "I DON'T THINK MRS. HEDGE'S MURDER'S EVER BEEN SOLVED." 661 00:32:10,413 --> 00:32:13,763 AND I SAID, "I DON'T -- MY DAD WASN'T HOME." 662 00:32:15,827 --> 00:32:19,617 BEFORE MY FATHER'S ARREST, HE WAS WANTED FOR EIGHT MURDERS, 663 00:32:19,655 --> 00:32:21,715 SO NOW I'M SITTING HERE 664 00:32:21,758 --> 00:32:24,548 BASICALLY GIVING THEM A NINTH MURDER. 665 00:32:24,586 --> 00:32:26,306 I FELT LIKE I WAS TURNING IN MY FATHER. 666 00:32:32,862 --> 00:32:36,212 Man: THIS IS KAKE NEWS, STATION OF THE YEAR. 667 00:32:37,724 --> 00:32:40,004 Peters: A QUARTER-CENTURY SEARCH FOR WICHITA'S 668 00:32:40,034 --> 00:32:42,974 WORST SERIAL KILLER IS OVER. 669 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,900 POLICE CONFIRMING TODAY, THEY HAVE MADE AN ARREST OF BTK. 670 00:32:46,931 --> 00:32:49,171 GOOD EVENING, IT IS A DAY THAT WILL GO DOWN IN 671 00:32:49,206 --> 00:32:50,516 WICHITA HISTORY. 672 00:32:50,551 --> 00:32:54,171 THE BTK MURDER MYSTERY MAY BE NEARING AN END. 673 00:32:54,206 --> 00:32:55,926 THAT'S RIGHT. WICHITA POLICE AND CITY LEADERS 674 00:32:55,965 --> 00:32:58,235 CONFIRMING TODAY THAT A PERSON OF INTEREST TAKEN IN 675 00:32:58,275 --> 00:33:01,545 FOR QUESTIONING YESTERDAY IS IN FACT BTK. 676 00:33:01,586 --> 00:33:03,306 Man: WE KNOW HE'S 59 YEARS OLD, 677 00:33:03,344 --> 00:33:05,664 HE'S MARRIED WITH TWO GROWN CHILDREN, 678 00:33:05,689 --> 00:33:07,929 AND HE WAS THE PARK CITY COMPLIANCE OFFICER, 679 00:33:07,965 --> 00:33:09,855 AND HE LISTED AS HIS HOBBIES, 680 00:33:09,896 --> 00:33:14,166 "RAISING HIS CHILDREN, SCOUTING, AND GARDENING," 681 00:33:14,206 --> 00:33:16,856 AND NOW EVERYBODY IS JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT 682 00:33:16,896 --> 00:33:18,586 HOW THE MAN THEY KNEW 683 00:33:18,620 --> 00:33:20,690 AS THE PRESIDENT OF THE CONGREGATION AT THIS CHURCH 684 00:33:20,724 --> 00:33:23,454 COULD POSSIBLY BE BTK. 685 00:33:23,482 --> 00:33:25,142 Peters: ONE OF OUR EMPLOYEES WAS A MEMBER OF 686 00:33:25,172 --> 00:33:27,032 CHRIST LUTHERAN. 687 00:33:27,068 --> 00:33:31,098 COUPLE OF MONTHS BEFORE BTK WAS CAUGHT, THIS EMPLOYEE SAID, 688 00:33:31,137 --> 00:33:33,997 "THERE'S A GROUP FROM CHRIST LUTHERAN THAT WANTS A TOUR OF 689 00:33:34,034 --> 00:33:36,174 THE STUDIO." WE HAD SEVERAL TOURS. 690 00:33:36,206 --> 00:33:38,166 WE HAD PEOPLE WHO SAT IN ON THE NEWSCAST. 691 00:33:38,206 --> 00:33:40,656 WE HAD PEOPLE WHO TOOK PICTURES. 692 00:33:40,689 --> 00:33:43,239 THIS EMPLOYEE WALKS INTO THE NEWSROOM 693 00:33:43,275 --> 00:33:44,755 THE DAY BTK WAS CAUGHT, 694 00:33:46,448 --> 00:33:52,548 WIDE-EYED LIKE THIS, AND SAYS, "OH MY GOSH, 695 00:33:52,586 --> 00:33:56,446 "BTK WAS A MEMBER OF THE TOUR GROUP. 696 00:33:56,482 --> 00:34:01,722 "HE WAS IN OUR STUDIO WATCHING THE NEWS. 697 00:34:01,758 --> 00:34:05,098 HE WAS 5 FEET FROM US." 698 00:34:05,137 --> 00:34:08,337 MY HEART WENT TO MY STOMACH. 699 00:34:08,379 --> 00:34:10,169 THE REALIZATION 700 00:34:10,206 --> 00:34:12,856 THAT HE HAD BEEN 701 00:34:12,896 --> 00:34:14,476 A FEW FEET FROM ME 702 00:34:16,758 --> 00:34:20,588 AND WAS WATCHING ME IN PERSON. 703 00:34:20,620 --> 00:34:22,690 THANK GOD HE HAD ALREADY BEEN CAUGHT, 704 00:34:22,724 --> 00:34:25,764 BECAUSE I WOULDN'T HAVE GONE ON THE NEWS 705 00:34:25,793 --> 00:34:28,413 THE NEXT DAY -- I WOULD HAVE RUN FOR IT. 706 00:34:29,689 --> 00:34:32,309 Woman: RADER WAS ALTERNATELY DESCRIBED AS A GOOD FATHER 707 00:34:32,344 --> 00:34:33,934 AND POLITE NEIGHBOR TO 708 00:34:33,965 --> 00:34:37,135 OVERBEARING AND EERIE, AN OVERLY METICULOUS COMPLIANCE 709 00:34:37,172 --> 00:34:38,832 OFFICER WHO WOULD GO AROUND 710 00:34:38,862 --> 00:34:42,102 MEASURING GRASS AND WRITING UP ALL SORTS OF CODE VIOLATIONS. 711 00:34:43,862 --> 00:34:45,592 Rawson: DAD REALLY LIKED UNIFORMS. 712 00:34:48,137 --> 00:34:49,687 HE ALWAYS WANTED TO LOOK A CERTAIN WAY 713 00:34:49,724 --> 00:34:51,624 TO KIND OF HIDE WHO HE REALLY IS. 714 00:34:51,655 --> 00:34:52,855 WE'VE BEEN TRACKING IT DOWN -- 715 00:34:52,896 --> 00:34:55,756 THE DOGS ARE SOMEWHAT TERRITORIAL AS WELL AS VICIOUS. 716 00:34:55,793 --> 00:34:59,033 Peters: MY VISION OF HIM WAS AN OUTCAST, 717 00:34:59,068 --> 00:35:03,758 A LONER, SOMEONE WITH LONG, SCRAGGLY HAIR. 718 00:35:03,793 --> 00:35:07,793 HE WAS THE DIRECT OPPOSITE OF THAT. 719 00:35:07,827 --> 00:35:10,827 Hatteberg: IN THE 1970s TO THE 1980s, 720 00:35:10,862 --> 00:35:13,282 HE WORKED FOR ADT, THE ALARM COMPANY. 721 00:35:13,310 --> 00:35:16,860 HE'S IN YOUR HOUSE, INSTALLING THE ALARM SYSTEM, 722 00:35:16,896 --> 00:35:18,826 AND HE'S A SERIAL KILLER. 723 00:35:18,862 --> 00:35:21,032 AND HE'S A BOY SCOUT LEADER, 724 00:35:21,068 --> 00:35:23,788 AND HE WOULD GO CAMPING WITH HIS SON. 725 00:35:23,827 --> 00:35:25,547 AND HE'S ALSO THE LONGEST-RUNNING 726 00:35:25,586 --> 00:35:27,856 SERIAL KILLER IN U.S. HISTORY. 727 00:35:30,793 --> 00:35:33,863 [ INDISTINCT TALKING ] 728 00:35:33,896 --> 00:35:36,786 ONCE HE BEGAN TO CONFESS, THE STRESS WAS 729 00:35:36,827 --> 00:35:37,997 LIFTED IMMEDIATELY. 730 00:35:38,034 --> 00:35:42,344 HE CONFESSED TO THE EIGHT KNOWN BTK HOMICIDES 731 00:35:42,379 --> 00:35:43,789 AND THEN TWO MORE HOMICIDES THAT OCCURRED 732 00:35:43,827 --> 00:35:46,717 IN THE PARK CITY AREA. 733 00:35:46,758 --> 00:35:50,068 HE CONFESSED TO THE MURDERS OF MARINE HEDGE 734 00:35:50,103 --> 00:35:51,213 AND DOLORES DAVIS. 735 00:35:52,689 --> 00:35:58,029 MARINE HEDGE LIVED RIGHT DOWN THE STREET FROM DENNIS RADER. 736 00:35:58,068 --> 00:36:01,478 THEY PROBABLY SAW EACH OTHER TAKING OUT THE GARBAGE. 737 00:36:01,517 --> 00:36:04,167 "HI, DENNIS." "HI, MARINE. HOW YOU DOING?" 738 00:36:06,206 --> 00:36:08,406 AND HE HAD TO HAVE BEEN PLANNING 739 00:36:08,448 --> 00:36:09,998 WHAT HE WAS GONNA DO WITH HER. 740 00:36:10,034 --> 00:36:18,074 ♪♪ 741 00:36:18,103 --> 00:36:21,173 MAN, IT WAS JUST LIKE, OVERWHELMING. 742 00:36:21,206 --> 00:36:25,926 MY MOTHER DIED AT THE HANDS OF ONE OF THE MOST 743 00:36:25,965 --> 00:36:30,785 DISGUSTING SOCIAL MALIGNANCIES THAT'S EVER, YOU KNOW, 744 00:36:30,827 --> 00:36:33,237 BEEN INTRODUCED INTO THIS WORLD. 745 00:36:33,275 --> 00:36:36,095 Narrator: ANALYSIS OF THE TWO GOADING ANONYMOUS LETTERS 746 00:36:36,137 --> 00:36:37,657 JEFFREY DAVIS RECEIVED 747 00:36:37,689 --> 00:36:40,169 BACK IN THE '90s CONFIRMS THAT THE WRITER 748 00:36:40,206 --> 00:36:42,026 WAS DENNIS RADER. 749 00:36:42,068 --> 00:36:44,028 [ GLASS BREAKING ] 750 00:36:44,068 --> 00:36:47,448 Davis: YOU ALWAYS IMAGINE THE FACE OF THE DEVIL. 751 00:36:48,827 --> 00:36:52,827 AND HERE'S THIS ELMER FUDD LOOKING LITTLE OAF WITH 752 00:36:52,862 --> 00:36:56,002 A STUPID HAIRCUT AND A DUMB LOOK ON HIS FACE, 753 00:36:56,034 --> 00:36:59,074 AND I THOUGHT, OH, YOU'RE REAL INTIMIDATING. 754 00:36:59,103 --> 00:37:00,453 YEAH, YOU COULD PROBABLY SCARE A WOMAN 755 00:37:00,482 --> 00:37:02,172 IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, 756 00:37:02,206 --> 00:37:05,896 BUT YOU'RE JUST A -- YOU'RE JUST A LITTLE COCKROACH. 757 00:37:05,931 --> 00:37:08,621 Narrator: POLICE ARE TOLD SHOCKING DETAILS BEHIND 758 00:37:08,655 --> 00:37:11,275 THE MURDERS OF HEDGE AND DAVIS. 759 00:37:11,310 --> 00:37:14,590 HE WAS ON BOY SCOUT CAMPOUTS WITH MY BROTHER. 760 00:37:14,620 --> 00:37:17,310 HE USED THE BOY SCOUTS FOR AN ALIBI TWICE, 761 00:37:17,344 --> 00:37:21,344 UM, WITH MRS. HEDGE'S MURDER AND ALSO MRS. DAVIS'S MURDER. 762 00:37:24,344 --> 00:37:25,974 Hatteberg: HE WOULD GET UP LATE AT NIGHT 763 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,310 AFTER EVERYBODY ELSE HAD GONE TO SLEEP, 764 00:37:28,344 --> 00:37:32,764 AND HE FOUND MARINE HEDGE, KILLED HER. 765 00:37:32,793 --> 00:37:36,143 [ OWL HOOTING ] 766 00:37:36,172 --> 00:37:40,342 Peters: HE LEFT ANOTHER BOY SCOUT OVERNIGHT, 767 00:37:40,379 --> 00:37:43,899 WENT AND KILLED DOLORES DAVIS, 768 00:37:43,931 --> 00:37:45,971 TOOK HER BODY, 769 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:51,280 PUT SOME SORT OF SCARY, HORRIBLE MASK OVER HER FACE, 770 00:37:51,310 --> 00:37:54,030 AND WENT AND DUMPED HER BODY UNDER A BRIDGE. 771 00:37:55,413 --> 00:37:59,973 SO TO DO THAT, HOW SICK DO YOU HAVE TO BE? 772 00:38:01,793 --> 00:38:04,593 AS HE WAS GOING BACK TO THE BOY SCOUT OVERNIGHT, 773 00:38:04,620 --> 00:38:07,030 HE ACTUALLY STOPPED AT A SERVICE STATION TO CHANGE 774 00:38:07,068 --> 00:38:10,378 HIS CLOTHES, BECAUSE HE HAD JUST COMMITTED A MURDER. 775 00:38:10,413 --> 00:38:12,413 A HIGHWAY PATROLMAN SPOTTED HIM 776 00:38:12,448 --> 00:38:14,548 AND ASKED HIM WHAT HE WAS DOING. 777 00:38:14,586 --> 00:38:16,096 HE HAD A GOOD EXCUSE. 778 00:38:16,137 --> 00:38:17,587 I'M IN A BOY SCOUT OVERNIGHT, 779 00:38:17,620 --> 00:38:21,480 AND I THOUGHT I'D COME TO A RESTROOM TO CHANGE MY CLOTHES, 780 00:38:21,517 --> 00:38:24,237 BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT TO CHANGE IT IN A TENT. 781 00:38:24,275 --> 00:38:26,475 WELL, THAT'S SOMETHING THE HIGHWAY PATROL OFFICER, 782 00:38:26,517 --> 00:38:29,857 OF COURSE, IS GONNA BELIEVE, IT'S VERY BELIEVABLE. 783 00:38:29,896 --> 00:38:33,756 HE ACTUALLY WENT BACK TO THE BOY SCOUT OVERNIGHT, 784 00:38:33,793 --> 00:38:37,213 AND PROBABLY JUST SO PLEASED WITH HIMSELF, 785 00:38:37,241 --> 00:38:40,141 FELL ASLEEP NEXT TO HIS SON. 786 00:38:40,172 --> 00:38:44,552 HERE'S A GUY WHO CAN BE WITH HIS SON AT A BOY SCOUT CAMP 787 00:38:44,586 --> 00:38:47,826 IN ONE MOMENT AND AN HOUR LATER BE OUT 788 00:38:47,862 --> 00:38:49,722 KILLING SOMEONE. 789 00:38:49,758 --> 00:38:53,028 THAT RIGHT THERE REALLY SHOWS YOU HOW THAT 790 00:38:53,068 --> 00:38:56,028 CANCEROUS MUSCLE THAT HE CALLS A MIND WORKS. 791 00:38:58,586 --> 00:39:00,446 AND THAT IN-YOUR-FACE ABOUT "YOUR MOTHER 792 00:39:00,482 --> 00:39:02,212 MUST HAVE BEEN TERRIFIED," I'LL BET YOU 793 00:39:02,241 --> 00:39:03,931 MY FACE JUST WENT BEET RED, 794 00:39:03,965 --> 00:39:07,095 BECAUSE BASICALLY THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HE'S SAYING. 795 00:39:07,137 --> 00:39:08,337 "THAT'S WHAT I DID -- 796 00:39:08,379 --> 00:39:10,209 I TERRIFIED YOUR MOTHER BEFORE I KILLED HER." 797 00:39:11,827 --> 00:39:13,547 HE DUMPED HER BODY, BUT HE DIDN'T HAVE TIME 798 00:39:13,586 --> 00:39:15,406 TO DO THE THINGS HE WANTED TO DO WITH HER, 799 00:39:15,448 --> 00:39:17,968 SO HE LEFT FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS, AND WHEN HE CAME BACK, 800 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:22,030 SHE WASN'T TURNING HIM ON, BECAUSE HER FACE WAS STARTING 801 00:39:22,068 --> 00:39:23,758 TO DECOMPOSE. 802 00:39:23,793 --> 00:39:27,383 SO HE THOUGHT HE MIGHT BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE 803 00:39:27,413 --> 00:39:29,863 MORE SEXUAL EXCITEMENT IF HE WOULD TAKE THAT PORCELAIN 804 00:39:29,896 --> 00:39:32,446 MASK THAT HE HAD AND PUT IT ON HER. 805 00:39:32,482 --> 00:39:34,972 BUT HE SAID THE MASK DIDN'T DO IT FOR HIM, BECAUSE THE REST OF 806 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:36,380 HER BODY WAS DECOMPOSING, TOO, 807 00:39:36,413 --> 00:39:38,173 SO HE JUST LET HER BODY THERE UNDER THE BRIDGE. 808 00:39:41,793 --> 00:39:44,033 Narrator: UNDER THE DIRECTION OF LIEUTENANT LANDWEHR, 809 00:39:44,068 --> 00:39:47,548 INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS OF THE BTK TASK FORCE HAD BEEN 810 00:39:47,586 --> 00:39:50,406 ASSIGNED SPECIFIC MURDERS TO FOCUS ON. 811 00:39:50,448 --> 00:39:52,548 NOW THEY TAKE TURNS QUESTIONING THE KILLER 812 00:39:52,586 --> 00:39:53,926 ABOUT THEM. 813 00:39:53,965 --> 00:39:56,515 HIS RECALL -- THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT HIS RECALL. 814 00:39:56,551 --> 00:39:59,691 HE HAD A PHOTOGRAPHIC MEMORY OF THOSE MURDERS AND THE SCENES. 815 00:39:59,724 --> 00:40:03,284 AND NOW HE'S ABLE TO ACTUALLY RELATE THAT AND TAKE FULL 816 00:40:03,310 --> 00:40:05,790 CREDIT FOR EVERYTHING THAT HE HAD DONE. 817 00:40:05,827 --> 00:40:08,827 HE APPEARED TO BE COMING AROUSED AS 818 00:40:08,862 --> 00:40:11,932 HE STARTED TO TALK ABOUT THE MURDERS. 819 00:40:11,965 --> 00:40:13,685 I WAS LIKE, "YOU FILTHY PIG." 820 00:40:13,724 --> 00:40:14,794 HE THOUGHT HE WAS... 821 00:40:16,310 --> 00:40:17,380 THE PRINCE OF DARKNESS. 822 00:40:17,413 --> 00:40:19,763 HE THOUGHT HE WAS FROM THE DARK SIDE. 823 00:40:19,793 --> 00:40:22,413 Gouge: HE THOUGHT HE WAS A CELEBRITY 824 00:40:22,448 --> 00:40:24,788 AND THAT WE SHOULD BE HONORED TO BE IN 825 00:40:24,827 --> 00:40:29,207 THE ROOM WITH HIM IN ORDER TO SHARE THIS EXPERIENCE WITH HIM. 826 00:40:29,241 --> 00:40:32,001 HE SAID, YOU KNOW, "I'M LIKE A LION ON THE SERENGETI. 827 00:40:32,034 --> 00:40:33,764 YOU CAN'T ASK THEM NOT TO HUNT." 828 00:40:33,793 --> 00:40:35,483 IT WAS LIKE, I'M THIS WAY. 829 00:40:36,965 --> 00:40:38,445 YOU JUST GOTTA ACCEPT IT. 830 00:40:38,482 --> 00:40:39,722 HE ALMOST TOOK ON A ROLE OF 831 00:40:39,758 --> 00:40:42,758 AN INSTRUCTOR -- WHEN HE WAS TELLING US ABOUT THE CASES, 832 00:40:42,793 --> 00:40:45,173 IT WAS, THIS IS HOW I GOT MYSELF PREPARED FOR IT, 833 00:40:45,206 --> 00:40:46,856 'CAUSE STRANGLING PEOPLE'S HARDER THAN YOU THINK. 834 00:40:46,896 --> 00:40:48,026 YOU KNOW, HE SAID THAT. 835 00:40:48,068 --> 00:40:49,858 BTK USED A SMALL SQUEEZE BALL 836 00:40:49,896 --> 00:40:52,966 THAT HE KEPT ON HIS BEDSIDE TABLE. 837 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,970 WRITTEN ON IT WAS THE SLOGAN, "LIFE IS GOOD." 838 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,520 HE USED THAT BALL TO STRENGTHEN HIS HANDS 839 00:40:58,551 --> 00:41:01,001 SO THAT HE COULD MORE EASILY STRANGLE HIS VICTIMS. 840 00:41:01,034 --> 00:41:03,554 IT BOTHERS ME TO THIS DAY. 841 00:41:07,344 --> 00:41:10,454 Hatteberg: HE WAS A MAN WITH NO SOUL, 842 00:41:10,482 --> 00:41:13,382 AND HE WAS THE MOST EVIL PERSON I EVER MET. 843 00:41:15,758 --> 00:41:18,548 RADER HAD A NOTION ABOUT HIMSELF, 844 00:41:18,586 --> 00:41:21,586 AND STILL DOES, THAT HE WAS A GOOD GUY, 845 00:41:21,620 --> 00:41:24,760 ESSENTIALLY, WHO DID SOME BAD THINGS. 846 00:41:28,103 --> 00:41:29,033 TO HIS MIND, 847 00:41:29,068 --> 00:41:32,168 THAT MEANT HE WAS HELPFUL TO NEIGHBORS. 848 00:41:32,206 --> 00:41:36,516 HE WAS A GOOD FATHER, A GOOD HUSBAND, A GOOD PROVIDER. 849 00:41:36,551 --> 00:41:40,661 HE WAS A HARD-WORKING MEMBER OF HIS CHURCH. 850 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,140 OCCASIONALLY, HE HAD FORAYS INTO HIS DARK SIDE, 851 00:41:47,172 --> 00:41:50,102 WHERE HE WOULD STALK PEOPLE, 852 00:41:50,137 --> 00:41:52,477 BREAK INTO THEIR HOUSES, AND KILL THEM. 853 00:41:54,310 --> 00:41:57,480 BUT THOSE WERE, IN HIS MIND, ABERRATIONS. 854 00:41:57,517 --> 00:41:59,477 THEY WERE NOT REALLY WHO HE WAS. 855 00:41:59,517 --> 00:42:01,687 IT'S STILL VERY HARD TO HEAR PEOPLE CALL HIM 856 00:42:01,724 --> 00:42:05,244 A MONSTER OR CALL HIM EVIL OR SAY, LIKE, 857 00:42:05,275 --> 00:42:08,205 UM, HE SHOULD WALK THE GREEN MILE AND FRY. 858 00:42:08,241 --> 00:42:09,931 I MEAN, THESE ARE THINGS PEOPLE LITERALLY HAVE SAID 859 00:42:09,965 --> 00:42:11,065 TO MY FACE. 860 00:42:12,448 --> 00:42:13,898 IT'S HARD FOR ME TO HEAR THAT, 861 00:42:13,931 --> 00:42:17,101 BECAUSE THAT'S NOT THE PERSON I KNOW. 862 00:42:18,931 --> 00:42:20,761 YOU KNOW, PEOPLE LIKE TO SAY, "YOUR WHOLE 863 00:42:20,793 --> 00:42:23,523 "LIFE WAS A LIE, BECAUSE YOU LIVED WITH BTK. 864 00:42:23,551 --> 00:42:25,411 YOU NEVER LIVED WITH THE MAN YOU THOUGHT YOU DID." 865 00:42:25,448 --> 00:42:28,098 YES, BUT I STILL LIVED WITH MY DAD. 866 00:42:28,137 --> 00:42:31,237 ♪♪ 65605

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