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Tonight, the reunion continues.

Your shoplifting arrest, was that the low point?

- When I took the first drink was my low point.

- Are we good? Are we good?

And I felt like we were. Weren't we?

- There was some kind of an intention there.

- You called Erika a pussy. - And a liar.

[laughter]

- I could tell that you had underwear on.

- I did.

- Lisa's just never seen that kind of underwear before.

[laughter]

Even if I didn't like you at times, I always loved you.

[tense music]

- I'm sorry that you find me manipulative.

- I don't trust you.

- Do I really look like a woman to you that needs pity?

♪ ♪

- You talk around and around,

and it just makes me so fáááing crazy.

I gotta walk away for a second.

Just own it, Lisa! Fáááing own it!

- This isn't a soap opera. This is reality.

- When were you in an abusive relationship?

He hurt you.

- Sorry.

[indistinct]

- Let's go right to the Munchausen conversation.

This was not malicious.

- But to repeat this in front of the whole world...

♪ ♪

- I'm gonna be really, really honest.

We were at my birthday party, and you came,

which was fantastic.

I was thrilled to see you.

You came with no makeup. You left.

Ken had said you look terrible.

Harry said, "You know what? That's not okay.

This woman is sick, and that's that."

And you went, "There goes our fáááing storyline."

- No, I did not say that. - Yes, you did.

- Well, the cameras were there all night.

- You said, "There goes our fáááing storyline."

- I wouldn't say, "There goes our storyline."

- But wait, I'm not done. I'm not done, I'm not done.

We all talked about it. - Yeah? Yeah?

- I shared it with both of you, the Munchausen.

"True Munchausen syndrome,

"wherein those affected feign disease, illness,

"or psychological trauma to draw attention,

sympathy or reassurance to themselves."

You encouraged me to say "Munchausen."

- No way. Why... I would say...

When you brought it up I said to you,

"I don't think we should be talking about this."

- Sorry, you encouraged me.

- Are you okay? - And guess what, I did it.

- Is she okay? - Oh, so you did it for me?

- I did it, I did it. - Oh, come on.

- I did it. - Come on.

- I did it and I'm sorry. I did it.

[tense music]

- You're saying that you brought up...

- But I'm owning it. But I'm owning it.

But you have to own the phone call.

Own it. Just own that you encouraged me to do it.

- You say I called you and said bring up Munchausen's?

- You didn't use the word. You didn't need to use the word.

- What do you mean?

- You said... Lisa, the word you said...

- Oh, my God, no.

♪ ♪

- I don't know, it's just so fáááing hurtful.

It's just crazy.

I just don't want them to see me cry.

- Just take a second.

- [exhales]

It's just... I just don't get it.

You know? - I understand.

It's very disappointing. What can I do?

- You guys all know what I'm talking about!

[indistinct chatter]

I put it out into the fáááing zeitgeist.

It's become a word. I did that.

Yes, I did.

- I want to wait for Yolanda to come back because...

- How's Yolanda? - She's good.

She's just getting it together. Just had a mild meltdown.

- [sighs]

- She'll be back. - Okay.

- Just give her a second to pull it together.

- Okay. - I am not...

- But we never thought she had Munchausen's.

- I would never have brought that word out

if you hadn't called me to encourage me.

- I would not call you and say,

"Bring up the word Munchausen's."

- You didn't say the word. You didn't have to say it.

- Oh, my God.

- Lisa, we've known each other a long time.

- Yeah, we have. - And I know you.

And that's what you did.

And I was stupid enough to just go,

"Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna do it."

- You say what you want, Lisa.

- That's right. - You cannot pass it on to me.

- I won't, but you just need... I'm not gonna pass it on to you.

I said it, but you need to own the fact that you called me.

This was a big thing. - Munchausen was a label,

and none of us thought she had Munchausen's.

- No, we didn't. - We didn't.

- Okay, I want to just reset this,

because Yolanda's coming back.

So, Yolanda, we're hearing two different things

on this issue of Rinna's accusation

that Vanderpump said, "There goes the storyline."

Who do you believe?

- I am really confused.

I want to believe what you're saying,

but I'm doubting it, because I lost my compass.

I had a hard time really going like,

"God, who do I believe? Is... is this truthful?

Is this... do they really mean what they're saying?"

And it's very confusing for me.

- I was wrong to doubt you, totally.

- Lisa, we've seen you through the years do things...

You know, even if you don't do it on purpose,

trying to manipulate things, but, you know...

You know, you're great at what you do.

You're a very powerful woman.

You're beautiful, you're funny, you make us laugh.

But I think in certain times you manipulate things

in a certain way that will look great for the show,

but you can't run over dead bodies to get a great show.

- Exactly. - Yep.

- Sometimes the integrity in it and the compassion

for other people should be first.

- And that got lost among all of us, I think.

- And that got lost in this whole story.

- Does that mean that you do believe that she said that?

- I don't...

It's possible. - That Lisa...

- It's possible.

- Well, that's where it goes back

to the very beginning of the birthday.

And for you to say,

"You know, there goes our fáááing storyline," it's like...

- Oh, please, I would not say, "There goes our storyline."

- It goes back to that. You did, and I'm gonna say...

- So we're on camera, we've got mics on,

and I go, "There goes our storyline"?

- Yeah.

- She called me right after and said that you said that.

- I called Eileen. - Well, weren't you there?

- No. - No, she wasn't.

You knew this story was gonna get told.

- But not "storyline."

Yolanda was putting out there publicly...

- God damn it, you talk around and around,

and it just makes me so fáááing crazy.

I gotta walk away for a second.

Just for a second.

It's like you just talk around and around

until everybody just goes fáááing crazy.

Just own, Lisa! Fáááing own it!

Own it!

Be done with it.

- Own what? - [sighs]

- Why... why are you saying...

I don't actually understand what you're saying.

"There goes our storyline"?

- You manipulate...

- You fáááing manipulate everything!

Just own it. - Oh, my God.

- Lisa, and I have to say, that's what's bad about this...

- Oh, please, you two have been...

- Oh, shut up. You know what?

Just fáááing own it!

- Did I say, "There goes our storyline"?

- I'm owning my sháá! - I didn't hear.

- I always said... What did I always say to you?

- Ahh!

- But true to yourself and... please.

- Don't talk about it. Just say it.

- Okay. - That is such B.S.

- You mentioned that Mohamed said

that... that Yolanda's kids didn't have Lyme disease.

That their kids didn't have Lyme disease.

- Well, I said to Yolanda,

"Maybe he never wanted me to know."

And I understand that because... - And I told you that.

And I told Mohamed after that lunch, I said,

"Mohamed, what exactly did you say to Lisa Vanderpump?"

And said, "I said they're fine."

But, you know, it did harm your friendship, right?

Because you guys don't talk anymore.

- You don't speak anymore because of it?

- It ruined the friendship,

and they were really, really close friends.

- Well, he thought I'd been saying negative things

about his kids.

- So you're not speaking as a result of this?

- Well, he said, "I've calmed down now."

So yeah, I think we need to put it back on track.

- But you brought it up at the barbecue going,

"What did Mohamed say about the children," right?

- Yeah, but I don't know... I don't know that...

- 'Cause no one knew that they had Lyme disease

until you told me in the park. - But I told you...

I told you in the park previously.

Why didn't you believe me?

- I didn't say I didn't believe you.

I said, "What's happening with Bella and Anwar?"

- But I told you what was happening with Bella and Anwar.

- Because when you said they had Lyme disease,

that was the first time I'd ever heard that.

- I don't think that it's that horrendous of a question

to say, "How are they? What's going on with them?"

I don't think that that's, like, outrageous to say that.

What the response was is what triggered the problem.

But, like she said, that came from Mohamed saying...

Not wanting her to know. - But as I said to you at lunch,

maybe... I'm sure he never wanted me to know.

- I brought you their tests,

and I want you to take it home and read it.

- No.

If Mohamed said they're healthy,

I... that's him being defensive and telling me to shut up.

- He didn't want to talk about it.

- Yeah. - You okay?

- I don't know. I feel bad for her.

- I do, too.

- Erika, Lucy from Springfield, Missouri, said,

"You were my new favorite until you didn't admit

"you were the one who told Yolanda

"about Kyle and Vanderpump talking about her kids.

"You're supposed to be all about the truth.

Why did you just sit there in silence?"

- I was so tired from the show.

Totally did not understand the question.

And once I figured it out the next day,

I was like, "Hey, I was the one that did it."

That's the truth.

- Rinna, you called Erika a pussy for not standing up...

- And a liar.

- Did I say liar?

- You called me a pussy and a liar,

but, listen, I can sit here...

- I didn't... - Here's the thing with that.

If I was, I would tell you,

but, you know, I really just...

I was... I didn't know, and I was like...

- No, I was getting blamed for it,

and you know what? Okay.

- It's fine. I don't... I don't hold any...

- You know what, you texted me instantly,

and you said "pussy," and we had a funny moment.

- I said, "Why did you call me a pussy, you bitch?

I didn't even bring up your name."

- It was funny actually, but... - It was fine.

- It wasn't even about who told me.

It was the information that I had...

- But then those girls thought I had said it, so...

- And the whole time, it was me.

- But that wasn't...

All of a sudden, we're talking about who said it?

Who fáááing cares who said it?

- It matters, really. - It was about what was said.

I shared because I got more and more frustrated

every day that I was sick

with not being able to find a cure.

If you come and spend one day with me

at the Lyme clinic,

if you see the parents sell their house

to live in a little shááty van...

- I understand that. - To cure their children,

you all would be ashamed of what you're saying.

- We are. - We are sorry.

- I'm sorry. I'm sorry. - We're sorry.

- Because it is so much worse than you can ever imagine.

- You know what, I'm sorry. - We're sorry.

- This is more important than anything.

I don't want you to cry.

- Of course I'm crying. It's my life you're talking about.

- So sorry. - I'm sorry.

- Trust me, I have so much...

- We should have come around you.

We should have come around you,

and we should have helped you no matter what

and done no matter what we could have to done to help you.

- I know you don't believe it,

but she was behind it.

- I don't want to be living under a rock.

I have so much things to be grateful for.

I have three chil... I have two daughters

that are on top of the world.

Don't you think that if I had one day of feeling good,

I wouldn't be on the plane to Paris?

What would be the purpose of being dishonest?

- Okay...

- It just feels like such lack of compassion.

You know, if I only opened one heart,

then this... sharing this is worth it to me.

- Okay. - So let's leave it at that.

- Okay. - All right.

This is a good time to take a break.

- [exhales] - Oh, yeah, stretch my legs.

- Gosh. - Ugh.

♪ ♪

- Sorry.

- Like, one a day...

- I hope we can start over

at some point in our lives. - Yeah.

- Because I don't know what happened.

- I know. - I'm sorry.

- I know you are.

- I never really wanted to hurt you ever.

I did it, and I'm so sorry.

I really am.

- [indistinct]

- I just hope there's a silver lining in it somewhere for you,

'cause I know it must be tough,

what you're going through right now.

- Yeah. - On a lot of levels.

- It's getting easier. - Good.

- Thank you. - Okay.

- All right, [indistinct]. Stand by.

- Coming up...

You feel like you were hard to love?

- Welcome back to

"The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills Reunion."

Joining us is one of our original Housewives

and Kyle's sister, Kim Richards.

Hey, Kim. - Hi. How are you?

- I'm good. How are you?

- I'm good, thank you.

- You recently lost your ex-husband, Monty,

to lung cancer.

I'm so sorry to hear about his passing.

- Thank you so much. - How are you hanging in there?

- I'm good.

As much as I knew it was coming,

I truly didn't think it was coming when it did.

He's the best friend I ever had.

I've known this man since I'm just 19 years old.

- We laugh.

We still...

bitch with each other.

Just like, still married.

- Right?

- Best friend you ever had?

- Yes, I will never have a friend like Monty again.

- That's for sure, yeah. - Definitely.

- Kyle, knowing how close Kim and Monty were,

this must have been very hard for you too.

- Well, it's just hard knowing how difficult

it is on her too, you know?

And my niece, Brooke, her daughter, so...

- Well, the question everybody used to ask was:

Where's Kim?

This season, the question has become:

How is Kim?

But Kyle didn't want to hear it.

She wasn't even speaking to her sister

until Kim's birthday.

Take a look.

- But Kim, I haven't really been speaking

with her that much, to be honest.

First of all, we're not in the best place as you know.

- Kyle, I have to ask you,

what the hell's going on with your sister?

- I'm sure you've heard, she's in rehab.

- Well, I thought that she escaped or something.

- Well, I don't know "escape"...

- They used the word "fled."

Last I heard, Kim fled rehab in the middle of the night.

She kicked a police officer.

When is somebody gonna say enough is enough?

- [gasps] Did you see that Kim was arrested?

- Oh, my God. - Did you see that?

- Yeah, I can't believe it.

She was arrested in Target

for possible shoplifting of toys.

- Have you spoken to her?

- Do you know where she is? Do you know anything?

- Yeah.

- Are you doing what you can to help her?

- Obviously.

My sister Kim right now is a very sensitive topic to me,

and nobody seems to care.

There's literally nothing anybody can do.

Nothing anybody can say. - It's true.

- Any advice, any words of wisdom

anybody ever offers, I have fáááing done.

- I was put in a situation

that was so questionable, I had to ask these questions.

- See, now this is really uncomfortable for me.

I can't hear that right now.

- If Kyle knew my true feelings about her sister,

she may never want to have anything to do with me again.

I want you to get better.

- Like, you just threw a dart at me, honestly.

- Your life has been... Has been complicated lately.

- You don't know how my life has been.

- Kim's getting arrested right and left.

It's gross.

- It's really hard for me.

- What's hard?

- What it was like for the time

I didn't talk to you.

- I wouldn't think it would be hard,

'cause I feel like you hate me.

- I love with all my heart.

I guess I'm hard to love.

I love you.

You know, if you have faith...

- I don't have the answer.

I really don't have the answer

of how we're gonna repair our relationship

and keep it together.

- Try.

Otherwise you'll never

get to really

love me again or whatever, like...

- That's the part I have to work on.

- So, Kim, where do you stand right now

in your recovery?

- I'm sorry, um...

Well, I'm in recovery.

And I'm choosing to keep my recovery to myself.

Just because before I've opened up my recovery,

because I thought it would be good for me,

keep myself accountable.

I thought it was helping a lot of other people.

And it wasn't.

There's a clause in The 12 Traditions,

it says, "not for public television or radio,"

and there's a reason for that.

- Good.

That really got to you, huh?

- Thank you.

- It's hard watching another family go through it.

- Um, I...

Watching that with my sister,

I think at times it has been hard to...

to love me.

I guess it is.

- No, that's not true.

No, there's a difference between love and liking at times.

- But that's how she feels. That's how she feels.

- Well, I'm letting her know, as her sister, that's not true.

Even if I didn't like you at times,

I always loved you.

- Always.

- You feel like you were hard to love?

- Yes.

- Because you feel like you put her through a lot?

- Yes, I put my whole family through a lot.

- You feel guilty about that?

- Of course. Of course, I do.

I... you know...

- It's very difficult on her. It's difficult on the family.

And then she beats herself up too.

You know, she beats herself up more than any of us ever could.

- Yeah. - Yeah.

- What are you feeling? - It's just hard.

And I'm... I'm... I'm so cheering for you, Kim.

- So am I. - I think you're amazing.

- Thank you. - I want you to know that, Kim.

I know we had some crap that went down last year,

but I really have always wanted the best for you.

- Thank you.

- And so have I.

Even though it might not look like it,

that was then and this is now,

and I want you to feel good about yourself.

You deserve it. You deserve it.

And I have only wonderful thoughts for you for the future.

- Seeing some of the things I saw,

it does hurt my feelings.

It does hurt my feelings.

- You know, your judgment of her was so strong.

- It felt like an attack, and it was so angry,

and when I did try to talk to you

at the final party,

I wasn't trying to make any trouble.

It felt like you're carrying something against me,

and I... I don't want that.

- Well, it's complicated.

- I... I said I wanted to talk to you

because I didn't want to feel like I was sitting in a room

with all these people that I like so much,

and then there's this one person, and I'm...

"I don't see you, I don't see you.

Okay, Lisa's not here."

I didn't want to do that.

- You called her dangerous.

You said that her... You called her arrest gross.

Do you take accountability

for your words towards her

and your kind of rage towards her?

- She's dangerous, if you ask me.

Flat-out dangerous.

Well, I was angry, I'll admit to that,

and, you know, I apologized to Kyle,

'cause I know it hurt her feelings.

And I don't like using those words,

and I'm sorry that I used those words.

I was angry and we didn't ever really have any closure.

- She wants to hold you accountable

and not just walk away...

- Why? Why? Why?

- We have to.

- Why do I need to be help accountable?

I don't need to be held accountable for anything.

I didn't put her anywhere.

She took a drink, she does what she does.

I wish her well.

I want her to be healthy and happy

and find love in her life, that's it.

That's it. That's it!

That's all I have for you, Kim.

I lost my sister to addiction.

I know addiction. I wish you well.

I want you to be happy.

- So why were you not sensitive to that then,

if you lost your sister?

- 'Cause maybe I'm human.

[tense music]

- Coming up...

Every time I see you, you overexaggerate,

and I like you, Eileen.

- I overexaggerate?

- I lost my sister to addiction.

I know addiction. I wish you well.

I want you to be happy.

- So why were you not sensitive to that then,

if you lost your sister?

- 'Cause maybe I'm human.

That was then and this is now.

I'm moving forward,

So if you can accept that,

that is all I can give you with my heart.

- Okay.

- You gotta be careful how you judge somebody.

- Honestly, it was behavior at my home.

- And how you talk to Eileen, I mean, come on.

- How do I ignore that behavior at my home?

- I call a thousand.

- You don't even know what you're doing, you stupid...

- I don't know what I'm doing. - Fááá you!

- Don't fáááing call me stupid.

- Don't start me with... Don't, don't.

- Jesus, guys, come on. - Stop it.

- Quiet, girls. - What did you call me?

- Child upstairs.

Obviously something was wrong.

- It was a human being suffering.

That's what was wrong. - But the point is.

- We tried to help. - No, that's the point.

No, you didn't try to help. - Can I speak?

Clearly we didn't invent your behavior.

It happened.

- Clearly. - Right.

But it wasn't like we were looking for something either.

- But you never spoke about it with anger.

- It seems like it did. - Okay.

- No, you didn't.

- When Lisa gets upset and she says something,

I see you jump in

and completely... "Girls, girls."

- You know, honestly... No, that's not true.

- Yes, it is. I've seen it.

Every time I see you, you overexaggerate,

and I like you, Eileen.

- I overexaggerate? - But it is.

And this isn't a soap opera. This is reality.

- Don't be rude.

- I'm not. It's the truth.

- Well, I want to move forward a little bit.

Rinna, you said in the Hamptons episode,

"Did I hand her a drink?

"Did I hand her a bottle of pills and say take them?

"Absolutely not, but I was Kim Richards's worst nightmare

because I was just her mirror."

You didn't like it that she said that.

- Well, I didn't like any of the things

that she said about my sister,

and she knew that.

Um, it's hurtful.

I'm looking at it and I'm thinking,

my sister's gonna see this,

my nieces and nephews are gonna see it.

So it hurts, but she knew,

and she apologized to me repeatedly.

"I feel terrible,

and I'm not gonna do that ever again,"

and, you know, that's basically what she said to me.

- Kathryn, Jocelyn from Lake Charles, Louisiana, says,

"You came down pretty hard on Lisa Rinna

"for talking about Kim Richards.

"I understand people with addictions need help.

"Weren't you missing the other part of that equation,

how addicts affect the people around them?"

- When we were sitting there at that table,

I believe you were either in rehab

or just getting out if it,

and for me it felt very insensitive,

knowing the situation that Kim was in,

to say anything less than encouraging.

I want to send that positive energy out there.

I didn't want anything to slightly get back to Kim

that everyone wasn't 100% behind her.

- It meant a lot to me,

and I just want to personally thank you for that.

Really, you know, it meant... You know, I cried when I saw it.

I really did. It just meant a lot to me.

- Thank you. - Thank you so much.

- But, you know, she's lived it,

so you have that, you know, compassion

and empathy for those who struggle.

- And, Erika, you know, you too, you know,

you were really just...

That whole moment there was so powerful for me.

- I've dealt with this just as Kathryn's dealing now.

- How have you dealt with it?

- Well, in my family. I lost someone, you know?

He was 29 years old.

So I'm behind you 100%.

I know how this is.

- There have been a lot of conflicting stories

about your shoplifting arrest.

What happened that day?

- You know, I really can't talk about it,

'cause it is a court case,

and so I'm really not at liberty to discuss that.

- Was that the low point?

- Last year was just a low point.

- A low year. - It wasn't a high one.

- It was not a great year all the way around.

- A low year.

- You know, when I took the drink,

when I took the first drink was my low point.

- Yes.

- When I took the drink two weeks prior...

- Yeah. - Yes.

- That was my one drink. I'm done.

- Right.

- That's when I knew

it doesn't get any lower than that.

So, you know, that was my... that was my...

That was it.

- Lisa Rinna. - Yeah.

- You told the other ladies that you were enraged

with Yolanda for being friends with Kim and Brandi.

- Oh, that was a word thing that came out.

Like, I guess you used "annihilate"

when you were talking about Faye.

Sometimes words come out. That was then, this is now.

I'm over it.

[laughter]

- It's so easy to do. - No, I know.

- We're having to deal with... - Really, you know what I mean?

You know, at the moment... - See, here's the thing.

You are... I mean, it's good... - What?

- You're being a little Marco Rubio with your talking points,

and you are... but you are...

- Don't say that, Andy.

Do not say I am being like Marco Rubio.

No, uh-uh.

- With the talking point, because you are...

- No, it's not okay for you to do that.

- Oh, for me? Lisa, you...

- What do you want... What do you want me to say?

- Well, no because... No because you...

- Kim's here with us. I wish her well.

- No, I know. I guess... - I really want to move on.

What is the big deal?

- And I think everyone appreciates that.

I think that what I'm sensing the frustration

at least among Yolanda

is that you said a lot of strong things

that you obviously felt very strongly about.

- At the time, I did. - In a rage.

- And it seems like you're just sweeping them all under the rug.

- I'm not sweeping them under the rug.

- You know, but if you would have come to me and said,

"Yolanda, you know, just I'm sensitive about the fact

that you're still friends with Brandi or Kim,"

that would have felt different.

- I guess I could have done a lot of things,

and you could have come to me and said, "You know..."

- It's not your business!

She invited me and I spoke to my girlfriend.

- So I thought you should have been there.

- But it's not your business.

- That's all, big deal.

- Kyle, you've admitted that both you and Kim

are experts at sweeping things under the carpet.

- Mm-hmm, professional.

- Are you still doing that?

- Professional sweepers.

- Yeah, we're better, but we're not wonderful.

But we're good now.

Like, right now I feel like so much stuff has come up,

and we had to discuss things even when we didn't want to,

especially because of the show.

Now it's just sort of trying to start a new chapter.

I'm starting fresh,

so maybe that's sweeping things under the carpet,

or just trying to start fresh.

- Sometimes I think you do need

to sweep things under the carpet,

especially if...

- I mean, you're also a professional sweeper.

- Yeah, no, but sometimes you do need to,

like with what's gone down.

- I bought Kyle a broom for her birthday.

- You did? - Yes.

- That's funny. - And she bought me one.

- But what's the point of rehashing it?

You've just got to start from now, right?

- Sometimes it makes it worse, to be honest,

especially our stuff is so deep and, you know,

intense for us.

It's almost too much sometimes.

- When you fail, you feel more and more inadequate.

And like you said, you feel like you don't deserve to be loved.

But you know what? You deserve to be loved,

and we're cheering for your journey.

And you are gonna fáááing make it, okay?

- Yeah, I know. - And it's gonna stick.

- Yeah. - Okay?

- Well, Kim, it's great to see you.

- Thank you so much. - Yeah.

- It's great to see you doing so well.

- Congratulations. - Thank you so much.

- Congratulations. - Thank you.

You guys are awesome. - Thanks. We'll be right back.

Coming up...

Who looked the most like a hooker?

- I'm out because I look like a hooker all the time.

[laughter]

- Welcome back to

"The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills Reunion."

Kathryn, do you ever get mistaken for Aviva

from "The Real Housewives of New York"?

- I never have until I started doing this.

Do I look like Aviva?

- I don't think so at all.

- Maybe just, like, a teeny bit.

- I mean, I wouldn't have thought of it

unless you said it. - Right.

How is your new hearing device working?

- It's amazing.

I forget to wear it sometimes and...

- Are you wearing it today?

- I forgot them.

- Ah! - You did?

- I left them in San Diego,

and Donnie was gonna drive back to get 'em.

I said, "I'm sure it's gonna be quiet.

It's gonna be a tight environment."

But if there was background music and a lot of noise,

I would need them.

But in this situation, I'm hearing everything 100%.

- Okay, good.

Whether the theme is "Moulin Rouge!,"

a non-barbecue barbecue

or carnival of butts,

the ladies of Beverly Hills sure know how to party.

[upbeat music]

- Hello, Lisa. - How are you doing?

- I'm gonna do a little barbecue here at the house

just with the girls.

- It's pretty with all of the grape, the purple.

- Oh, my God, I thought you said barbecue.

- I know, but, you know...

- You said barbecue. I said casual.

- I know, but you...

I'm gonna stop using the word barbecue.

- [sighs] Let's go get a cocktail.

- Party!

- Oh, my God, there's, like, men with their shirts off.

- Ohh.

- It's not a barbecue.

There's no weenies on the grill.

The weenies are in the pool.

- We should have, like, a butt contest.

- No thanks.

Cheers to all of you.

[cheering] - Whoo!

[screaming]

- I'm a little bored.

We need a little spark of something

to grab my attention.

[screaming]

[laughter]

- I don't think he'll be forgetting

his 70th birthday anytime soon.

- [indistinct]

[exciting music]

- Oh, my God, look at us.

We are like fáááing cheap hookers.

♪ ♪

- Whoo! - There you go.

[cheering]

- Wouldn't be a season of

"The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills"

if we didn't get some splits from Kyle.

- That's my party trick, okay?

Leave me alone.

- I love it.

- Talk to me about the hat tree

at Ken's birthday party. I've never seen...

- I thought it would just be a fun thing to do, you know?

It was just, like, great visuals,

an English garden party.

♪ ♪

- What would you like? You have to pick one.

- And so, yeah, I went out and bought the hats,

and it was very cute.

And of course it rained like a typical English garden party.

- I loved it. I thought it was a great party.

- Every time you had an event this year, it rained.

- It rained. - Every single time.

- Ken is 70. He had both hips replaced.

- Yeah, yeah. - He got pushed in that pool.

I think everyone was very freaked out about that.

Were you? - Really upsetting.

- Well, yeah, but his hips are strong.

I mean, they're stronger than they were, trust me,

than, you know, before he had them done.

- Did that flip you out or not?

- Yeah, I didn't like it

because he could have hit his head on the side, you know?

So it's a white suit, it's shoes, it's a watch.

- Very concerned about his shoes, by the way.

- But, you know, he was, like, shocked,

and he kinda just went down under the water,

like, "Oh, I'm just gonna..." - Yeah, of course.

- And everybody was like, "Ahh!"

- Erika, Jennifer from San Francisco wants to know

what Tom thinks of all those young, shirtless guys

in his pool.

- Not much.

[laughter]

Honestly.

I mean, those are my boys that I'm on the road with.

- I like your road boys.

Kyle, Ben from Chandler, Arizona, said,

"Who throws a barbecue and then wears a long, flowing dress

after she's told everyone else to dress casually?"

- I'll tell you who does that,

the person that feels chubby and the jeans don't look cute.

- It was a maxi dress.

- I wear according to how I feel about my body.

- Okay.

- So if I feel good in jeans and a T-shirt, I will.

If I don't, then I wear this dress.

- I have to assume you're feeling great today.

- I'm feeling okay.

There's certain things I don't, but whatever.

I don't need to point out my flaws.

- So once and for all,

define the meaning of a barbecue to me.

- When I have a barbecue,

it means everyone come over and we eat outside.

And there's times that Mauricio will cook on the barbecue,

but if he's not there to cook,

I don't even know how to turn the barbecue on.

And then I don't want to be cooking,

'cause then I don't get to talk to anybody and hang out.

So then it becomes a dinner party outside.

So I will never say "barbecue" again

unless there's a hot dog there.

- But why do men who don't cook all year,

suddenly they get a barbecue

and they think they're, like, a bloody chef.

- But usually barbecue's, like, flip-flops and jeans, right?

- Yeah, but, you know, we make it...

There's times it is like that.

Many times you come in a bathing suit and a cover-up.

- Erika, what's your definition of a barbecue?

Hot guys in Speedos?

- I think you clearly saw it.

I wanted food and liquor

and invited my dancer boys over

and, you know.

- I'm gonna have a real barbecue next year,

like a real one where we grill on the grill.

Harry will make Kobe beef, which is out of this world,

and we'll have a real barbecue.

- Can we have ribs?

- We can have ribs. We can have hamburgers.

Whatever, I'll take the orders now.

- I was just happy 'cause Erika's barbecue

made mine look like, you know...

Hers looked like Mardi Gras next to mine,

so I was happy.

- 'Cause you didn't have a grill either, I don't think.

- Um, we did, but I wasn't doing it.

- I know you weren't gonna do it.

- Eileen, you and Lisa Rinna

joked about looking like hookers

at the "Moulin Rouge!" party.

Out of the entire group, who looked the most like a hooker?

- Who looked the most like a hooker?

- I don't know.

- I'm out because I look like a hooker all the time.

- You do not.

- You actually had long sleeves.

- Yeah, which is why I did it that way.

I changed it up. I was like, hmm.

- Thank God for the bow or...

- Ah, you've got no underwear on.

- Yes, I do. - Yes, she does, she does.

I've already seen it. - What's that make yours then?

- Did any of you get lucky that night?

- You did. - Oh, nice.

- Did you keep it on or did you take it off?

- I had fishnets on, so obviously.

- She tore a hole through the fishnets.

Come on, let's be serious.

- They're sexy outfits. It's fun.

- Vanderpump, you didn't think Kathryn

was wearing underwear that night.

Was that because you weren't wearing underwear that night?

- [gasps]

- I probably went out with my big knickers.

- Oh, my gosh.

- My brother saw that,

and he called me and said, "Don't ever do that again."

My big brother, and he was laughing.

- I could tell that you had underwear on.

- I did.

- Lisa's just never seen that kind of underwear before.

- Shut up, you.

- Coming up...

- If I reacted a certain way,

it's because I don't trust you.

[tense music]

- Back in Beverly Hills with the ladies.

I'm Andy Cohen.

How did the affair start?

It was the question that haunted Eileen and Lisa Vanderpump

for months, leading to hurt feelings,

tense words and awkward apologies.

Take a look.

- I've been married three times.

- No. And then you met Vinny.

- Yeah, I met him on my show.

- How did the affair start then?

- Out of nowhere, she brought up how Vinny and I met.

I was clearly uncomfortable

because I'm in public, and we're talking about this,

and she's not letting it go.

You asked me about how I met Vinny.

- Yeah.

- And you kind of kept going on,

and I was just really uncomfortable.

- I apologize if I asked you too many questions.

If you ever don't want to discuss something,

surely you just say, "Oh, I don't want to talk about that."

This doesn't make any sense to me.

I'm sorry for asking you about your life,

but I only ever looked to your relationship with Vinny...

- Well, that's not my life. That's a tiny part of my life.

- Okay, well, I can't do anything right then, can I?

- I never really felt like the apology was sincere.

I feel like you felt more on the spot about it,

instead of understanding where I was coming from.

- I'm truly sorry for saying the wrong thing

or for saying anything at all.

- For anything at all. - You know what? We're good.

- How good? 'Cause I need to be really fáááing good.

- I feel like I'm pounding on Vanderpump,

and it doesn't go anywhere,

and I feel like I'm being a bitch now.

- I know. - Everybody runs for cover.

- You are so right.

- Why is it okay for me to take the bullet all the time?

- What's the big deal saying...

- The big way is, you know what, when you do this, own it.

Just say, "I'm sorry."

- I'm sorry for saying "the affair."

Oh, my God, it's like a dog with a bone.

[growls]

- You know what you have to say?

- Apologize for using the wrong terminology.

- No, not like that. You're gonna say to her,

"I honestly had no idea that would hurt you like that,

and I apologize."

- I totally never intended to hurt you,

and I... I'm really sorry for that.

I just wanted you to know.

- And I want you to know

that I really appreciate you saying that.

- I told her what I wanted her to hear

to make the situation better.

- But the big thing is, is that you meant it.

- I meant, "I'm sorry I upset you.'

- Not, "I'm sorry for what I did."

- Well, that kind of says it all.

- What was your reaction when you saw that?

- Vindicated.

I felt vindicated.

Because I never felt that your apology was sincere, ever.

And you know what's so ironic about this,

when you asked me about, "When did the affair start?"

I was like, "Okay, that's..."

I know that you're smart.

You're pretty calculated.

I don't think things come out of your mouth flippantly.

- Eileen, we were sitting there for an hour talking.

- May I... - Yeah, sure.

- Could I finish my point of view?

Okay, so, you know, I was uncomfortable,

and obviously I try to get resolution.

But I went to you nicely.

This wasn't even a confrontation.

I just said, "You know what, I felt uncomfortable.

What was that about?"

And you were just like...

- And I encouraged her to do it. - Yes, she did.

- I didn't understand it, because it was two days later.

- But then, well, whatever.

- And we'd had lunch and dinner, and then you suddenly said...

- Well, whatever it was, when it was,

I was nice about it.

- Yeah.

- And you just got very dismissive.

- You had an affair and you got married

and it was... - Are you kidding me?

You're completely... - I didn't understand that.

- You're completely missing the point again.

Completely.

This isn't even about you saying it.

- Why do you think she's offended?

- It's... I have to tell you. Andy...

- Lisa, do you know? - No, well, to me

the word "affair" and having it doesn't seem to be...

- Everybody is missing this. It's not even about that.

It's about how you treated me when I went to you very nicely

and said you made me feel uncomfortable,

and you dismissed me, and you were condescending.

And that felt like manipulation.

- Okay. - Okay?

And the other thing

is if I reacted a certain way that night,

it's because I don't trust you.

I felt there was some kind of an intention there.

- Why didn't you tell her, in the moment,

I'm not comfortable... - I absolutely should have.

I absolutely should have, but I was taken aback.

- But that's why I was taken back

when you said two days later.

- Well, whatever. I wasn't dismissive of you.

- You know what I mean? - I wasn't dismissive of you.

- 'Cause I said, "Go to Lisa.

"She'll be open with you and go tell her how you feel.

"She'll be like,

'How great, you came to me and said your feelings.'"

And... and... - I was taken back,

because I'd seen her for lunch and dinner,

and she was fine and she was friendly,

and then she said...

- I was friendly when I came to you.

- Yeah. - So why are you making it sound

like some kind of a confrontation, which it wasn't?

- Because I was thinking, I didn't understand.

- You know why, Lisa? 'Cause everything feels

like a confrontation to you if anybody asks you anything.

- I didn't realize and felt that I did anything wrong.

- It's about how she feels, and all you had to do was go,

"I see you. I hear you.

I know how you feel. I'm sorry."

That's all you had to do.

- Okay, I do see you, I feel you, I hear you,

and I'm... - No, I'm not laughing at you.

I'm laughing at your words.

I don't need you to feel me or see me or hear me.

- But I can't...

- It's okay. - I'm sorry.

- Okay, so she's saying it was really about your behavior

when she went to you saying she was uncomfortable.

- How your apology was very dismissive

and wasn't sincere at all.

- Do you then, looking back on it...

- Probably should have said, "Okay, I'm not getting this.

I'm not understanding how I've hurt you," you know?

Because I didn't realize that I'd hurt her.

I really didn't. I really didn't.

That's why I went up Burj Khalifa.

- She said so to your face.

- Lisa, Lisa.

Lisa, she was coaching you on how to say, "I'm sorry."

Then you said, "I just said it

because I don't want her to be upset anymore."

You didn't mean it. Still, okay, I know.

- Yeah, I didn't want you to be upset anymore.

- Let me ask Erika, Paul from North Hollywood said,

"Did you think Lisa Vanderpump's questions

about Eileen and Vince's affair were innocent or calculated?"

- She got the reaction she wanted out of Eileen.

Eileen was hurt. She asked for the apology.

She didn't get it. - You know, I'm sitting there.

I don't think she has any malicious intent.

To me, like I said, there's certain triggers,

and then it was the apology wasn't, you know, what you...

- And I don't trust you,

and that really is the basis of this.

- Theresa from Washington, D.C. said,

"Lisa Vanderpump lost her you-know-what

"the day in her garden when she said she needed

to be really fáááing good to move on."

- 'Cause I wanted to make sure that we were good.

I wanted to say, "Are you good? Can we get past this?

Can we... are we good? Are we good?"

And I felt like we were.

- You felt like we were? - Yeah.

- Okay. - Weren't we?

- [laughs]

No?

- You know, it really does feel

like just two different planets.

But I think the point I was trying to make

is that, um, you manipulate.

I'm sorry, but there it is.

- I'm sorry that you find me manipulative.

[tense music]

♪ ♪

- Coming up...

When were you in an abusive relationship?

♪ ♪

- Eileen, Caroline from Estes Park, Colorado, said,

"Hold on, you didn't want to talk

"about your past relationships.

"But what's the difference between talking about the affair

and talking about being abused?"

- That's what... I didn't understand that either.

Suddenly she was bringing up something that...

- Two different things.

- That's a completely different thing.

- Is it? - That's a completely diff...

And again, and again, I think I also just said

that was a loaded thing,

what you brought up at dinner,

and it really wasn't about that.

The thing about being in an abusive relationship

was really about letting people know

who I am and what I've been through,

and that's what it was really about.

And I read your blog, and that was incredibly offensive.

You spoke about how you had been

in an abusive relationship, but you don't feel the need

to share it and... - That's absolutely true.

- That's so interesting

because I remember where you were all sitting around,

and you were all saying,

we're sharing something that happened in our pasts,

and I think they turned to you

and said, "Has anything happened to you that you want to share?

What keeps you up at night?"

- But I didn't even want to share.

- Your biggest problem can't be getting a pony

onto a private plane.

- Lisa's very good at getting everybody else's story

and not really... and being very guarded about her own.

- I'm not guarded about myself.

- That's Eileen's point.

Like, you want to share her stuff...

- But the affair thing, word was out there.

Because I didn't have an inkling.

I didn't have an inkling until she told me two days ago.

- You can see the look on her face, she's like...

- What difference does it make?

It was the way you reacted to me that really set me off.

I didn't like it.

It was dismissive, it was manipulative.

- Well, I apologize for not reacting properly.

- It is interesting that you shared about...

When were you in an abusive relationship?

- Oh, my God.

I was 19.

And I was threatened and physically hurt.

- How long was that relationship?

- The relationship was quite a long time.

- Aww.

- He hurt you?

[somber music]

♪ ♪

- Once.

Sorry.

♪ ♪

- Next week, the reunion concludes.

- This is, like, a desperate...

- You're desperate, honey. Not me.

What you did was a áááá move.

- You just can't figure out, am I a people pleaser

or am I bipolar crazy and a crazy bitch?

- Can I tell her that you called her a harmless old lady?

- I'm assuming you're a member of the mile high club.

[laughter]

- Does "Housewives" trump daytime in the drama department?

- Oh, my God.

- When you go through it, you don't really understand

that you don't know what's going on.

- Is there anyone that you want to apologize to?

[tense music]

- Hey, guys!

I'm drinking wine and no one can say a damn thing.

♪ ♪

- You told... I never heard the world Munchausen

until you brought it up. Why'd you say we did it?

- You fáááing called me on the phone.

- She's not a liar, Lisa. - You know what?

- Everyone has their issue. No one's a fáááing angel here.

- How do you think you can move forward with your friendship?

♪ ♪

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