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To start with, yes of course,
I want to play football.
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My philosophy was:
we want to win the game.
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We have to master the game.
You need to have the ball.
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You need great technique.
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You also need match intelligence.
That's clear. You need time.
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You need money to do that,
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but you also need physical potential.
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Everyone says
mental strength is very important.
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But to have
mental strength on the pitch,
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you need players who,
before all else,
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are able to run.
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Who are able to run. Do you understand?
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Because saying,
"He has a super mentality,
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but he can't run back and forth,"
that's no use.
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And if you have a player on the team,
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who does nothing defensively,
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you don't have a team.
You don't have a team.
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That's dangerous.
Losing possession here, counter...
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Nowadays you have to be able to play
hurt. They can suffer, really suffer.
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This is...
You asked me about my philosophy.
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To play football, but...
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You can have a team, a real team.
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And then you can wage war,
if you have that.
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If you have that.
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TRAINING CAMP, MARBELLA
JANUARY 2019
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Okay, guys. We'll do two rounds
of circuit training.
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Then we can watch some football.
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In the summer,
we didn't know how Dortmund were doing.
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The squad had changed significantly.
There were many new players.
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Plus a new manager. These
are factors for which you can't plan.
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Football isn't a drawing board.
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We want to improve a lot,
to play good football.
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If someone had told us on July 1st
that we'd be here in Marbella,
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leading the table by six points,
I'd have said, "Who? Us?"
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It's gone far better
than we ever imagined
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in our wildest dreams, which of course
causes problems in itself.
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Increased expectations.
All around Borussia Dortmund,
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we face more media pressure.
But it could be worse.
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We want to play good football,
but of course also winning football.
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Sadly both those things
aren't always possible.
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We've seen that before.
Sometimes you have to win ugly.
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The philosophy's very clear.
We want to play good football.
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We want to excite the fans.
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And the manager brings
the perfect qualities to implement that.
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Two rounds of exercises.
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This year we had a super team.
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Lots of young players
had a great deal of success.
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We're proud of that, but the project is
just starting, there's a long way to go.
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MATCHDAY 1
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At the home game,
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they really let Leipzig
play to their strengths in Dortmund.
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They were able to counter quickly.
We were playing quite high,
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and we left gaps.
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They could have led 2:0.
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Luckily that didn't happen.
Bürki made saves. That was crucial.
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In the end we won 4:1.
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I'm glad I was there at that moment
and could help the team.
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That's really when it started
with our good run, I'd say.
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MATCHDAY 5
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At some point it really started.
They were flying.
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Jadon Sancho showed
what an outstanding street footballer
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he is on the pitch as well.
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MATCHDAY 6
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Paco Alcácer came on very late
and scored instantly.
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Everything worked in that phase.
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Paco Alcácer totally amazed me.
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He came, he saw, he scored.
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It's incredible
how little time he needed
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to acclimatize in Dortmund.
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He's a natural-born scorer,
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and also he's someone
his team-mates can link up with.
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It's quite a rare combination,
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with classic center-forwards,
with classic penalty box strikers.
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TRAINING CAMP, MARBELLA
JANUARY 2019
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We thought long and hard
about who to play at No. 9.
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We had Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang
for years there most recently.
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And in that phase
it became theoretically possible
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that we could take Paco on loan.
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That Barcelona were willing
to let him go.
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We knew him from Valencia.
Then he moved to Barça.
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Normally he'd be off our radar.
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But the problems they're having
with competition are well known.
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And of course Paco has had
a huge impact here, because he
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has a finishing quality
that I have rarely seen before.
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On the other hand,
we also had a bit of luck.
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At the time of Paco's transfer, no one
thought he'd score 12 goals in 12 games.
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You always have to stay humble.
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I'm sure we made
a lot of good decisions.
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You have to compliment Michael Zorc,
who was in control overall.
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But a bit of luck is part of it too.
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MATCHDAY 7
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Mario Götze had made an almost
traumatically poor start to the season.
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In the summer he wasn't called up
for the World Cup.
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Then he lost his starting place
at Borussia Dortmund.
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At times he wasn't even on the bench.
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Against Augsburg, he came on,
he got involved at once, he was there.
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For me it wasn't a redemption,
but it was a moment when I thought
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the previous months hadn't gone well,
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then coming on and scoring,
at home in front of the south stand,
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it was all perfect,
and it was a special moment for me.
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I could feel all the positive energy
being showered on me.
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For me personally
it was a very emotional match.
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It think that was something
that did him personally a world of good.
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Also because of the fact that everybody
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celebrated for him.
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That everyone in the stadium
that afternoon knew
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just what that goal, what that moment,
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that explosion, meant to Mario Götze.
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The Dortmund fans in the south stand
weren't always his greatest friends.
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There were still quite a lot of them
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who hadn't forgiven him
for going to Bayern Munich,
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who didn't give him a friendly welcome
when he came back.
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The Augsburg game,
where we won 4:3 in the 96th minute
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with Paco's free kick, those are
emotions you rarely have in football.
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That was extremely important
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for us as a team
for the remainder of the season.
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It was fantastic.
I was totally stoked after the match.
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It was crazy.
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But the next day
you still have to analyze the match,
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and realize it was very, very hard.
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MATCHDAY 11
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Bayern was a brilliant game,
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because on that day, Bayern also played
very well. It was an excellent match.
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And then to win it,
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and for all the people watching
to think it was a fair result,
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that boosts your self-confidence
to another level.
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The match against Bayern
was a boost, of course.
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We went behind twice,
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but then we came back three times.
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And that characterizes us at the moment,
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that we're willing to go beyond
the limit, that we believe in ourselves.
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We made some great transfers,
we have a good age structure,
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experienced players and young players.
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And it's a good mixture
that we have at the moment.
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We learned a lot from last season.
That's why we opted for
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more drastic measures and changes.
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We didn't really have
a good balance in the team last year.
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We were too easy to beat.
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If you as Dortmund get two points
from an easy Champions League group,
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it means you've done it all wrong.
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In the end we realized that we perhaps
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focused too much on footballing elements
of the team line-up, not on the rest.
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Also, the attack on the team bus
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had a far greater negative impact
on the following season
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than we could have imagined
in any nightmares.
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TRAINING CAMP, MARBELLA
JANUARY 2019
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You prepare for a Champions League game,
you spend ages in the hotel,
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you're glad when the bus
finally leaves for the stadium.
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We hadn't even gone 100 meters,
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and suddenly there was a huge bang.
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Then shortly afterwards a second one.
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I saw Marc Bartra screaming...
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We all tried to take cover,
because we didn't know what it was.
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Yes, it was...
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Those were the most terrible minutes
or seconds of my life, I think.
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You didn't know what was happening.
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The whole bus shook.
I heard windows shattering.
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I automatically slammed on the brakes,
as I think anyone would.
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Then I saw clouds of dust in the mirror,
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that the explosion had caused.
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And of course
I was perplexed for ten seconds, because
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I didn't know what had happened.
Then I turned around to Mr. Tuchel.
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I asked him, "Thomas,
do you know what just happened?"
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He didn't answer,
because he was preoccupied with himself.
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In the back, Marc Bartra was injured,
which I hadn't realized up front.
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There was shouting, a commotion.
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Then I saw Marc,
his wrist covered in blood.
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He was yelling,
he was sweating and pale.
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There was a hole,
like a bullet hole, in the bus.
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You didn't know if people would come in,
or what was happening.
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Were there several of them?
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You were lying on the floor,
and hoping it was over.
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We yelled that he should keep driving,
that we shouldn't stop there,
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that we should move away
from the whole thing.
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It was very frightening,
alarming to be there at that moment,
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and to look at your team mates
and friends and see fear,
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with the young players hiding
under their seats. That was really...
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something that you
don't want to experience.
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Now we have experienced it
and we're trying to deal with it.
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There was a driveway on the right that
joined the main road 100 m further on,
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There was a hedge on the right,
where the pipe bombs were positioned.
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Before long, I think I was the first,
I informed our office, using the words,
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"There's been a bomb attack on the bus."
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I said I thought
we couldn't play that day.
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At first they didn't believe me.
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The first retort I got was
"April Fool's Day was ten days ago."
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Then when I got home,
I watched the news for the first time.
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When they started talking on TV
about the bomb attack,
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attempted murder, that's when it sank in
that it had really happened.
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When they talked of 27 counts of
attempted murder, you were one of them.
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I think it got really bad for me
when you saw what could have happened.
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That we had a huge amount of luck.
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How much shrapnel was
found in the headrests,
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or didn't even hit the bus.
Or for example that
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there were cars parked between
the bus and the explosives,
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which also took
some of the force of the blast.
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Mostly I only talk about it to people
in whom I've already confided.
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Otherwise whenever there's
a quiet moment now
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and something gets dropped somewhere,
or there's a loud noise,
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unfortunately it still happens that
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you get a bigger fright
than you normally would.
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But that's also something that,
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with these conversations
or with the frequency of these moments,
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that you start to deal with better.
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I still have after-effects too.
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But I no longer
automatically associate them directly
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with someone dropping something,
when there's a loud crash.
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That causes a bit of anger in me
and I think, "Hey, be careful."
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Several people warned us
about post-traumatic problems
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that would arise
six to eight months later.
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That's what happened and
it was exacerbated by the court case.
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Players, who today go about their jobs
in quite a sheltered environment,
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were suddenly confronted
with very different things.
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On Thursdays they sit in court opposite
the bomber, who is 5 to 10 m away.
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And many players
couldn't cope with that.
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They were shattered on Thursday evening
and had to play a match two days later.
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That was a turning point. And you
saw which players were doing okay,
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and which players would be better off
with a change of environment.
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If you don't board the black and yellow
team bus, or stay at the hotel,
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then maybe you'll feel freer again.
And so we had a big clear-out.
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Perhaps we needed to do that
a year earlier, if we had realized.
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But then I'm sure we'd have been
accused of scaremongering,
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of dumping players who were victims
of a bomb attack two months previously.
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At the end of the day,
we couldn't find a better solution,
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because there is no blueprint. No club
can claim ever to have experienced this.
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Then Rapha, Jacob, Jules, Achraf,
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Ömer, Julian and Marius.
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Dortmund's club management changed
a bit. Sebastian Kehl was brought in.
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Aki Watzke and Michael Zorc asked me
if I could take a look at things.
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If I could give any input and ideas.
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A few transfers were made
to give the team a face again.
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But you need a conductor.
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The director is Lucien Favre.
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He's a very experienced manager.
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You can see wherever he's been
that his teams
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play very structured, very attractive
football, with lots of possession,
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and control the game,
and he advocates that.
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But, and this perhaps differs
from certain previous years,
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he still tries to bring
a proper, healthy balance to our game.
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He gives the team a clear signature.
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What makes the uniqueness of a manager
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is that you recognize
from the style of play,
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without having to see the uniforms,
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that this is a team
that plays like Lucien Favre,
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that plays like Guardiola
or like Jürgen Klopp.
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I can't say what he'd do
in his free time otherwise.
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I only know him
meticulously attending to all the things
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that are needed to win the next match.
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He knows the opposition inside out.
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If he's overlooked something,
he rewinds the video and shows everyone.
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He really wants everyone to understand
what he means.
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And for us to be like that too.
For us to live football as well.
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And that's exactly what we need.
We need the example of how he does it.
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Come on, come on. Hey!
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He loves watching football, talking
football and thinking about football.
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He loves standing at the tactics board,
tinkering with new ideas to implement.
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Someone with his career,
in the business for so long,
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who stills questions things every day,
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looking for new approaches
and solutions, that impresses me a lot.
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He tries to improve small details
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in the players,
which all together have a big effect.
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I've seen it in a lot of players
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who have developed in small areas
without noticing,
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but who do things differently
from six months before.
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You can always improve technique.
And there's a lot they can learn.
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Who can make a diagonal pass
with left and right?
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Instead of using the right foot,
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and you lose ten seconds,
and your opponents are already there.
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You have to see who can do that.
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Who has the potential to do that?
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In six months, in a year and so on.
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At the same time,
he's also very, very human.
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Very, very happy about things
when they work.
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As a team, we're always so glad
when we see he's glad
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that something works out
that we've practiced.
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And that's the special spirit
that we've developed
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since the summer,
that we push each other,
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but also show each other respect,
if we've achieved these things together.
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Borussia Dortmund has to some extent
broken with its own transfer philosophy.
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That means they no longer just bank on
young talent that can be developed,
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because last season they noticed
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that in certain pressure situations
the team didn't really seem to fight.
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That in some games they even collapsed.
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They also lacked a bit of experience.
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In our meetings,
Matthias Sammer kept describing
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a certain type of player that we lacked,
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without us even knowing
that Witsel was coming on to the market.
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I remember Michael coming to us suddenly
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whereupon we had another meeting,
and he said,
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"Witsel is coming on to the market,
maybe we have a chance."
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And all four of us
were totally electrified,
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because he's the player type
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that in theory we'd have come up with
beforehand as a transfer target.
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Morning, Axel.
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We call it the king transfer, as Axel is
the head of the team in that position.
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You never feel like he'll lose the ball.
Even in tricky situations
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he doesn't lose it. He gives his all,
no matter how it makes him look.
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Axel is someone we could have done with
in the last few years.
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His calm on the ball, the structure,
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the way he plays football,
and prepares for matches and trains.
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He's an extremely intelligent player,
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who dictates and demonstrates
the rhythm to this team.
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It's was a stroke of luck
that he was available,
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that I got a call saying, "Axel Witsel
could be coming on the market.
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He wants to leave China."
With such outstanding quality,
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I believe he could play a part
in any team in the world.
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After a great World Cup with Belgium,
I thought it was the right moment.
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I thought it was my last chance,
to return to Europe to a big club.
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And also with it being Dortmund,
I didn't hesitate for a second.
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CHAMPIONS LEAGUE GROUP STAGE
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We progressed through
the Champions League very well.
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That's quite unusual
in the Champions League,
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conceding only two goals in the
group stage, in only one of six games.
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We were looking good, very stable.
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For me overall,
the best game this team played,
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where you could see the huge potential
this squad has,
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was the home Champions League match
against Atlético Madrid.
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I think Atlético Madrid
is the most difficult team
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you can play against
when it comes to scoring goals.
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And Borussia Dortmund tore them apart.
I found that deeply impressive.
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For me it was also the best game
that Mario Götze has played for years.
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TRAINING CAMP, MARBELLA
JANUARY 2019
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Jadon Sancho's a real street footballer.
There aren't many of them left now.
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People often
get called street footballers,
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but really they've pretty much died out
in Central Europe.
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We only ever deal in probabilities.
Never certainties.
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I'd never say, "I know.
It was obvious. It was bound to happen."
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There's always a risk, and the younger
the players are, the bigger the risk is.
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But still, a year ago we decided
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to pay 7.5 million
for the then 17-year-old,
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even though he hadn't played a minute
in the Premier League.
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It was only based on his talent,
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which we had seen
in the England youth teams,
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that we concluded
that the lad needed one to three years
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before he could help Borussia Dortmund.
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But it happened so fast...
He's still a youth player.
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He could play for our A-youth team
against Preussen Münster, going by age.
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But he has unbelievable quality.
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And what's even more amazing,
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is the consistency of his performances.
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I think he's broken every record in
England. The lad has a massive future.
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That you can say with certainty!
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Age isn't a limiting factor for us here.
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I really like working with young people,
and so does the manager.
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Because the aims
are often the same.
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I think what we've
developed well in recent years,
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is, if you like,
the calling card we can present.
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So as well as the targets we've set,
which are quite ambitious,
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we're also a good step to take
for young players
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wanting to develop to the highest level.
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Jadon Sancho isn't only
a gifted dribbler,
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but in addition to that,
which combined makes his greatest skill,
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even when he's dribbling and moving
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he looks up,
sees a team mate in a better position
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and then puts in
a precise pass to him.
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That takes skill.
Not everyone can do that.
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TRAINING CAMP - OSTEOPATHY ROOM
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Jadon's 18. We have to
be careful not to overload him,
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as things can come to
a standstill for six months.
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But he's an instinctive footballer.
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He knows the right thing to do
from the flow of the move.
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You can't coach that.
Either you have it or you don't.
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He has the ability to become one of
the really great players in Europe.
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He needs consistency
and to get over difficulties,
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and to keep pushing himself.
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One must never forget how young he is.
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All the hype around him this season
isn't easy for him to deal with either.
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Being confronted with transfer fees
in the hundreds of millions
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at that age, with all the challenges,
it's really not easy for him.
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He became an England regular very fast
and gets lots of media attention there.
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So part of what the club is doing
is to keep him grounded.
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To tell him he'll keep developing,
and that he still needs
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a little time to process it all
and to take the next step.
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I have no sporting worries about him.
But all the stuff around him, the hype,
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if he learns to deal with it,
with his environment and family,
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he'll become a great. But he still has
a few challenges to meet.
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TRAINING CAMP - LUGGAGE ROOM
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Franky, do you have a long-armed
under-shirt for me? And a short one?
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Long and short?
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Long in L and short in XL, please.
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Dženis, wait!
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Wait!
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This isn't a job, where you sit around,
do your work and then go home.
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You're totally involved with the club.
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You have highs and lows,
and I've been through it all.
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We've won the league,
won the double, we've won the cup.
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When things are going badly,
we have to stick together
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and put things right,
and we always manage to do that.
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Sure, they have moods.
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If you have any knowledge of people,
then you know
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whether to speak to Player X now
or wait till lunchtime.
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You have to be able to do that.
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I spoke to them the way they did to me.
If that didn't suit them,
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they came back two days later
and had calmed down.
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I have the nerve to do that.
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I trained as a mining mechanic
for three years.
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I did my apprenticeship in the "Fürst
Hardenberg" and "Minister Stein" pits.
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I was underground for over ten years
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until I came up for health reasons
after I slipped a disk.
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It was a great time.
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And it saddens me that
the last mine has been closed down.
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Because with all the pits we had
all around Dortmund,
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something has died out.
And my buddies who are out of work now,
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you feel for them. That's how it is.
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Dortmund's kit man Frank Gräfen is a
real rarity today with his mining past.
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An absolute exception.
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This connection between mining
and football used to be the norm.
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That's how Dortmund
first got put on the map.
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Dortmund stands for steel,
iron and coal on the one hand,
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and for the Hall of Westphalia
and Borussia Dortmund on the other.
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You virtually breathe
that down-to-earthness.
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You didn't have to seek it out. It was
just there. You found it everywhere.
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I got to know Adi Preissler
and various old warriors there
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and I was always hearing about
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the significance of the club
for the city and the region.
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You absorb that, and there was
a massive sense of identity.
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All the commotion surrounding it today
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didn't exist then,
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The simple saying,
"Let's get down to brass tacks",
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has been the most formative one
for me to this day.
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I could identify with people
who lived by that.
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If you ask me today about the
breed of people I feel really close to,
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then it's the people in
and around Dortmund. Definitely.
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FOOTBALL CHAMPIONSHIPS
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Despite bad weather, almost 70,000
are packed into the Olympic Stadium
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for the final of the German League.
Dortmund, in light shirts, vs Karlsruhe.
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Following a scramble in the Karlsruhe
goal mouth, Niepieklo gets the ball
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and scores an unstoppable goal.
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In the 27th minute, Kelbassa heads in
a corner. 2:1 to Dortmund.
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Borussia Dortmund
beats Karlsruher SC 4:2
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and deservedly become German champions.
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GERMAN LEAGUE WINNERS 1956 AND 1957
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Before their success in the 50's,
Borussia Dortmund were
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only involved as also-rans.
That changed fundamentally, of course.
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In those days the players were
all from the area, they were locals.
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Charlie Schütz from Lütgendortmund,
Lothar Emmerich from Dorstfeld,
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Willi Sturm, Aki Schmidt. Hoppy Kurrat
was from Borsigplatz, he lived there.
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On the right, all in white, FC Cologne.
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'63 was the last time the old format
of the German League was played.
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The odds-on favorites were FC Cologne,
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with Hornig, Schnellinger,
Schäfer and so on.
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It was a great team.
We were rank outsiders.
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It was unbelievably hot.
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I know my parents
travelled there by bus.
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Goal!
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When I think that
we beat Cologne 3:1,
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at my young age, that was
the greatest success you could imagine.
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Being a German Champion
at 22 was unimaginable.
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Beating Liverpool 2:1 for a big title,
the Cup Winners' Cup, was crucial.
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They got into the final in 1966,
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though Liverpool were the favorites.
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Emmerich.
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Aki Schmidt... Emmerich.
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It went to extra time.
It was 1:1 after 90 minutes.
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It was an energy-sapping match.
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And as luck would have it,
Stan Libuda, a great right winger,
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both for Schalke and for us,
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got the ball in the 106th minute
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and put a long looping chip
into the English goal...
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Libuda's ball drops into the goal!
Into the goal!
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Into the goal. That's unbelievable.
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EUROPEAN CUP WINNERS' CUP 1966
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They rolled the red carpet out for us.
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00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:59,880
People on both sides of the autobahn
were waving black and yellow flags.
465
00:40:00,240 --> 00:40:03,360
Right into the city, via Borsigplatz.
466
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:08,160
The city was filled with people.
You can't imagine what it was like.
467
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:12,520
And then we really enjoyed
what we had achieved.
468
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:19,840
It was very special for
the region here and for all of Germany.
469
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:23,560
It was the second biggest
football success after World War II.
470
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:25,880
The first World Cup win in '54,
471
00:40:26,240 --> 00:40:30,720
and in '66, a German team
first won the Cup Winners' Cup.
472
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,280
That boosted people's
self-esteem in the region.
473
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:38,800
Particularly here, where it's all about
work, hard grueling work.
474
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:43,920
For them that was something that
they could really look up to.
475
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:51,280
START OF SECOND HALF OF SEASON
JANUARY 2019
476
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:57,600
If we want to be at the top in the end,
we need to get hungrier,
477
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:01,000
because the competition are improving.
478
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,640
I don't know if we can.
I ask myself that 20 times a day.
479
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:06,960
I don't know this team well enough yet.
480
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:16,760
Everything worked in the first 18 ties.
You walked on the pitch thinking,
481
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,920
"So what if they take a 1:0 lead?
We'll win."
482
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,760
It's certainly possible.
But I definitely think that
483
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,600
the second round of 18 games
will be extremely hard.
484
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:29,680
Bayern Munich will have a resurgence.
485
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:33,880
It will be a challenge for us,
486
00:41:34,240 --> 00:41:36,560
starting with the Leipzig match,
487
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:41,240
to muster the same desire to win
as in the first half of the season.
488
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,600
We didn't win every match
5:0 walking away,
489
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,360
some were hard-fought and turned-around.
490
00:41:47,720 --> 00:41:49,960
Can we do that again? Have we
491
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:54,840
drawn any false conclusions from
the situation in the table right now?
492
00:41:55,200 --> 00:42:00,080
The Christmas tree's decorated, everyone
says you're favorites for the title.
493
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,680
There's no reason for us
to change our approach,
494
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:08,120
even if we're the team to beat.
So what? So be it. It's irrelevant.
495
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:19,760
It will be hard in Leipzig.
496
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:24,080
It'll be war.
We have to go into the contact,
497
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,520
be physically prepared. They're strong.
498
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:31,080
Especially in Leipzig.
I don't think they've lost at home.
499
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:35,200
I wouldn't say the game will decide
who wins the league.
500
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,160
But if we do win in Leipzig,
501
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,600
we'll stay in an upward spiral,
like we have now.
502
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,120
And we have to continue on that spiral.
503
00:42:54,960 --> 00:43:00,200
We knew if we didn't perform in Leipzig,
it wouldn't be a great start.
504
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:04,840
So it was an important game to
set us up for the rest of the season.
505
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:17,200
For one thing, it was a great goal.
You don't score those every day.
506
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,960
It was also symbolic of
Axel Witsel in the first 18 games.
507
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:25,400
He surprised many people by
seizing the central role.
508
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:30,560
He came here, and we all know Dortmund
fans are critical of mercenaries.
509
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:34,600
Then someone comes, who played
for years in Russia and China.
510
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:39,200
And you think, in terms of quality,
another league would be enough for him.
511
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,520
So what does he want?
Does he just want to cash in?
512
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,280
And I think Axel Witsel
gave the best answer.
513
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,200
He showed he wants success,
he wants to win.
514
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,640
I think he has
the best passing stats in Europe.
515
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:56,000
He's very important. Now we know why
he's called the "lifeboat" in Belgium.
516
00:43:56,360 --> 00:44:00,760
He often saves his team. If need be,
with goals, like against Leipzig.
517
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:05,760
MATCHDAY 18
518
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,120
The win in Leipzig was a big point.
No question.
519
00:44:12,240 --> 00:44:15,280
During the match,
I was pretty sure we'd win,
520
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:19,000
because we were in
better overall form that day.
521
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,400
Bravo, guys!
522
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:27,240
JANUARY 23, 2019
523
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,920
I've been doing this with Aki Watzke
for over a decade.
524
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,800
When there are problems,
you may sometimes run the risk
525
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:42,480
of always having the same answers,
always reaching for the same textbook,
526
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:47,120
and always using the same recipes
to find solutions.
527
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:51,680
So I think it's good
to have someone like Matthias Sammer
528
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:56,400
who isn't part of the club,
who observes everything from a distance.
529
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:58,800
He doesn't have to be there often.
530
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,360
We know Matthias,
531
00:45:01,720 --> 00:45:06,120
and the warts-and-all appraisal
that he gives,
532
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:10,720
so that we can perhaps come to
new ways of solving things.
533
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:16,120
I was interested,
because the next step for me
534
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:20,240
wasn't to return to an
active management role anywhere.
535
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:25,080
I can't and I don't want to be a danger
to anyone active in the sport.
536
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:29,760
No manager or club executive
needs to be scared of me anymore
537
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:32,760
in the sense that I'm angling for
a position in a club.
538
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,960
Congratulations.
- What for? - Saturday.
539
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,800
I've been a player, a manager,
responsible for youth players
540
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,640
and I've worked in
club management roles.
541
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:50,600
I think I have some understanding
of what makes people tick.
542
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,480
And I've made it quite clear
543
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:55,680
I don't want to be
any of those things now.
544
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:59,600
Maybe I'd like to be a player again,
but that isn't really possible.
545
00:45:59,960 --> 00:46:03,440
Knowing that has to be
the starting point. So I always try
546
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:08,120
to present arguments
from the perspective of the whole.
547
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,000
Then the call came.
548
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:15,680
I was quite clear
549
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,720
that I wanted to get back
into professional football,
550
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:22,520
but I also wanted to go
to the club I love, Borussia Dortmund.
551
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,800
Because the role
hadn't existed in that form,
552
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:29,920
the need for it had grown
to some extent over the year.
553
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:33,920
You cannot simultaneously
initiate transfers
554
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,400
be having talks, be abroad,
555
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:40,160
complete transfers,
and always be the contact person,
556
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,480
for the team, for the manager,
for players that are maybe injured
557
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:45,920
or are unhappy
about not playing enough.
558
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,160
So I thought it was urgently necessary
559
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:53,960
to bring somebody in
to help and support us,
560
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:58,400
but who is also a heavyweight.
561
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:02,720
And I think we made
a good choice in Sebastian Kehl.
562
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:07,240
Let's begin. What's your take on it
from watching on TV?
563
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,440
The problems in defense...
564
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:17,120
As a calculated pessimist,
which one can be in phases like this,
565
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:21,880
you have to prepare yourself
for when it gets really difficult.
566
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,720
It was an exceptional reaction
by the team to match them.
567
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,920
Leipzig hadn't lost a game
at home till then.
568
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,800
So my gut feeling would have been,
569
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:37,280
"If you take a point there,
it would be important for team morale."
570
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:43,000
The middle was rock solid, in my eyes.
Everything else stabilized as a result.
571
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:47,120
Especially in the center of midfield,
with Axel and...
572
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,720
Delaney, no question about it.
573
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:53,360
When it comes to
analysis of potential players,
574
00:47:53,720 --> 00:47:57,760
Matthias is the one
who has lots of input.
575
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,320
At the end of the day, this is a meeting
576
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:05,280
that's intended to give Michael Zorc
some orientation and assistance.
577
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:11,080
Because ultimately he has to make
the decisions. We don't vote on them.
578
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:15,240
It's clear that Michael
is responsible for the transfer area.
579
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,400
And he has to decide.
But he would be stupid
580
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,840
if he didn't take
the others' assessments seriously.
581
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:25,720
I discussed it previously with Michael,
saying we should open up,
582
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:30,280
due to the realization that the business
is getting ever more complex.
583
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:32,080
And it worked.
584
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:35,200
Before we start talking
about transfer concepts,
585
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:37,840
what is still current
from your perspective?
586
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:43,920
Well, Balerdi...
We've brought him forward to the winter.
587
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,680
The transfer was originally planned
for the summer. Why is this?
588
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:53,400
There was suddenly some pressure
from other clubs expressing interest.
589
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:57,720
And also, even though
the transfer would give us options,
590
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:03,400
in connection with our injury situation
in central defense...
591
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:08,040
First of all, it was very big
of Aki Watzke and Michael Zorc
592
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:12,760
to say at all, "We're expanding the team
of experts and areas of responsibility."
593
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:16,160
Because they also knew
they were bringing in two guys
594
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:19,200
who are active in the media,
595
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:24,800
who make their presence felt and have
a certain self-confidence about them.
596
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:29,840
But I think it will all lead to
us making better decisions.
597
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:34,080
To us having an
even better team in the future.
598
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:36,840
Hopefully we'll succeed.
599
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:42,520
I've brought the up-to-date results
from the performance test we did.
600
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:47,280
There are some changes. We'll probably
have to speak to the rehab department,
601
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:51,280
and to the athletic department
about getting one or two to a new level.
602
00:49:54,520 --> 00:50:03,240
MATCHDAY 19
603
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,560
Hakimi is a huge talent.
604
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:25,520
He's much more than just a right-back.
He's fast,
605
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,600
he has great close ball control,
606
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,520
he's dangerous in front of goal,
he has vision.
607
00:50:32,240 --> 00:50:37,680
In many other Bundesliga teams
he'd have prominent role in attack.
608
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:40,000
He could do that. Without a doubt.
609
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:44,560
A great player. A real enrichment for
Borussia Dortmund and the Bundesliga.
610
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,120
We have him for another year and a half.
611
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:50,680
I wonder if Borussia Dortmund
can keep him for longer.
612
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:53,800
If I was Real Madrid
or had a say in the matter,
613
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,840
then Dortmund wouldn't have
a chance of keeping him.
614
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:11,680
Achraf provided a great assist
for my second goal.
615
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:16,480
He gave his opponent no chance,
he stole the ball and played me in.
616
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:21,440
Nowadays it's extremely important
to have wide players in attack,
617
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:27,520
who win one-on-ones and create
situations where you have more players.
618
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:32,360
I've played every three days
at this level for ten years,
619
00:51:32,720 --> 00:51:35,160
My body is getting older,
that's normal,
620
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:39,640
and for young players to come along too,
that's part of football.
621
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:44,880
Achraf is incredibly dynamic and lively.
622
00:51:45,240 --> 00:51:48,120
He's the fastest player in our team.
623
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:54,400
Seeing these guys deal with situations
in such a relaxed way at their age
624
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:59,560
is still hard to believe. To be honest,
only these signings are improving us.
625
00:51:59,920 --> 00:52:02,320
It doesn't help me or the club
626
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:07,760
if we don't improve in certain positions
or create competition for them.
627
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:12,800
It's important not to get discouraged,
and also to treat each other
628
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:16,800
with respect and to
push each other on to the highest level.
629
00:52:19,720 --> 00:52:26,040
NEW YORK TIMES INTERVIEW
FEBRUARY 2019
630
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:14,960
I was born here
and spent my whole childhood here.
631
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:20,240
You absorb the Borussia Dortmund DNA.
I went to the stadium with my parents.
632
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:24,160
Back then of course, there was
no way of knowing that one day
633
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:29,520
I would run out into the stadium
and play before that massive backdrop.
634
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:33,760
So it's really a dream
that came true at some point.
635
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,840
So yeah, I'm pretty proud for sure.
636
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:58,880
I'm going to be a father of a beautiful
daughter. That will bring changes.
637
00:53:59,240 --> 00:54:04,600
I don't want to end up one day
wishing that I'd enjoyed my time more.
638
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,320
I think that would hurt me the most.
639
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:09,560
I'm still finding my way of course,
640
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:14,320
but I know what I want
and I've made a solid start to life.
641
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:19,680
Of course, the injuries were
difficult for me, also mentally.
642
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,080
Nevertheless, they were "only injuries".
643
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:25,200
Other people are worse off.
You have to view it like that.
644
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:49,920
A bit lower, please.
You know how it works.
645
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:53,080
A cruciate ligament injury
is as bad as it gets.
646
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:57,280
The team went back out for
the second half. I bandaged his knee.
647
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:01,880
Then you're in the dressing room
and all you can do is reassure him.
648
00:55:02,240 --> 00:55:06,600
He knew fine well something serious
had happened. The doctor checked him.
649
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,160
You virtually grieve with him.
650
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:12,360
There's so little you can do
in that situation.
651
00:55:12,720 --> 00:55:16,160
Now, this is known as
the "torture method".
652
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:19,840
It's not that bad.
- Yes, sure.
653
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:22,440
There were phases when I
654
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:27,640
really had to struggle hard
to bear it any longer.
655
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:29,400
It was a very difficult time,
656
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:34,040
when you keep on learning about
other things going on in the world,
657
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:36,400
to make the world a better place.
658
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:40,960
I have to say,
that cruciate ligament injury, it was...
659
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:44,040
That was the most painful thing.
660
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:50,000
I can reassure him,
and convince him with my therapy,
661
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:54,040
that it will work.
You just can't rush such a long process.
662
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:56,880
Sure, there's pressure from all sides.
663
00:55:57,240 --> 00:56:01,520
The club says, "When will he be fit?
When can he play? We need him."
664
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:04,760
The manager asks how it's looking.
You're always discussing it.
665
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:09,200
You can't be swayed by that. As a
therapist, you must go your own way.
666
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:12,680
It's primarily about the player.
The rest is secondary.
667
00:56:13,240 --> 00:56:16,600
Come on, Thomas, not so hard.
- It's always like this.
668
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,800
I kept telling Marco,
"You'll have to go beyond your limits.
669
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:22,040
And me beyond mine.
670
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:27,240
Because if we don't, you won't be able
to bend your knee the way you should."
671
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:31,040
Move your foot forward a bit.
672
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:35,400
When we're trying to integrate him
in team training again,
673
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:37,640
it's walking on the razor's edge.
674
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:41,000
But it's teamwork.
We have a good doctor, good physios.
675
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:44,520
We've worked together closely
and talked to Marco a lot.
676
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:46,600
You develop a feeling for it.
677
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:49,920
Enough.
678
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:54,680
Unfortunately Marco has
always had the problem
679
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:58,000
of being sidelined
too long and too often.
680
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:01,440
And now we finally have the scenario
681
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:05,600
where he's stayed free of injury
for a longer period of time,
682
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:11,360
Now we're seeing what can happen
when he can play for six months,
683
00:57:11,720 --> 00:57:16,040
when he can make his mark on every match
and is involved in goals.
684
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:21,760
And above all, the development he's made
in terms of character.
685
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:25,200
He coy about it,
he doesn't like talking about it,
686
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:29,640
but it is a special honor for him
to be captain of Borussia Dortmund.
687
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:59,200
You sit on the outside feeling amazed
how well he's doing personally.
688
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:04,680
Not just his knee, but how he accepted
it and got over such a serious injury.
689
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:21,800
You celebrate in a different way.
I'm even more glad about every goal
690
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:26,360
than before. It's great to see
things are going so well.
691
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:34,920
Marco isn't only a player,
who makes a difference on the pitch.
692
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:38,080
He's also extremely important
in the dressing room.
693
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:42,520
He knows the club extremely well
and he plays a large part
694
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:47,480
in integrating young players and
new signings. He does that really well.
695
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:56,480
Marco is now living the role as captain.
696
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:59,080
He's grown with the responsibility.
697
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:03,800
You can see how much he enjoys it.
He's playing his best season ever.
698
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:06,760
It's absolutely world-class
the way he's playing.
699
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:16,920
It may be difficult, but to
achieve the impossible with the club,
700
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:21,480
like winning the Champions League,
it really motivates you.
701
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:25,840
That's why you go to the training
ground every day and try to improve.
702
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:29,400
The aim is also for Dortmund to
win the Bundesliga at some point.
703
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:34,520
That wouldn't only be
my childhood dream, it would be massive.
704
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:37,480
THE BUNDESLIGA TROPHY
WITHIN REACH FOR ALL OF BORUSSIA!
705
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:41,240
MARCO REUS HASN'T SCORED MORE
AGAINST ANY OTHER CLUB!
706
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:51,440
GERMAN CUP ROUND OF SIXTEEN
707
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:55,040
For the neutral, it was a festival.
708
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:58,840
It ticked all the boxes of
what you expect from a German Cup tie.
709
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:03,760
We knew from the start
it would be a difficult match.
710
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:08,800
As well as that, our top two
goalkeepers were out due to illness.
711
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:14,400
That was the day I'd been
longing for since I was a boy.
712
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:17,680
I'd been on the bench
for two Bundesliga games.
713
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:20,640
I got my first experience there.
714
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:25,000
Of course, I never imagined
that they would both be sidelined,
715
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:28,120
and that I'd be playing
my first professional match.
716
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:34,040
Maybe in my hopes or dreams,
but I wasn't really expecting it.
717
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:39,400
The first thing that
went through my head was,
718
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:42,960
"Cool, finally I get my chance."
719
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:46,000
But at the back of my mind
I could feel the tension.
720
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:47,920
Playing in front of 80,000,
721
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:51,800
and the icing on the cake,
it was against my old team.
722
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:55,640
I knew nearly all of the opposing team.
723
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:03,360
I'd told him, "Sometimes it's easier
to play in front of 80,000 than 5,000."
724
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:06,640
The game got off
to an unfortunate start for him.
725
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:20,200
He hadn't yet made a save,
and the deflected free kick went in.
726
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:22,760
Absolutely unstoppable.
Nothing he could do.
727
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:29,360
We were at home, conceded early.
In that situation we knew
728
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:34,760
they'd sit deeper, play on the counter,
making it harder for us to score.
729
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:48,640
Axel Witsel seems like someone
who's seen it all before,
730
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:53,520
who won't get ruffled
by any dicey situations.
731
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:57,640
Against Werder Bremen,
where not much was on for the team,
732
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:01,880
with few scoring opportunities,
he then drew that foul
733
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:04,520
just outside the penalty area.
734
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:10,880
He a crafty fox.
And that craftiness is an attitude,
735
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:16,000
which the team, for all its talent
in years gone by, has missed a bit.
736
01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:21,960
It was a great position for a free kick,
both for me and for Rapha.
737
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:25,520
The referee said, "Marco,
this is the last play of the half."
738
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:27,440
And I thought,
739
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:31,360
"Either we come up with something,
or it's the old-fashioned way,
740
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:34,280
and we take a direct shot."
741
01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:51,080
If it went over the wall and came down,
I knew it would be hard for the goalie,
742
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:54,520
because the ball was
extremely close to the goal.
743
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:59,440
So I needed to whip it in,
so the ball would fall nicely.
744
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:10,640
Marco Reus had to go off at half-time.
He had twinges in the adductor area.
745
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:14,200
The goal scorer,
the player wearing number 11,
746
01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:16,920
Marco...
- Reus!
747
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:21,600
As a footballer you think
you're hardened, it won't be that bad.
748
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:24,600
I wanted to continue playing, of course.
749
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:27,840
At the start of the match
I noticed it was a bit worse.
750
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:35,480
In the second half, without Marco Reus,
you noticed something was lacking.
751
01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:42,360
Eric Oelschlägel was exuding confidence,
752
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:46,080
and he even got a hand
to the free kick by Max Kruse,
753
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:50,800
which was hard to stop,
and saved us, so we got into extra time.
754
01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:54,760
That game will have taken him
longer than two days to process!
755
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:28,840
When you score in extra time,
in the half-hour you have,
756
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:32,800
out on the pitch you start thinking,
"Okay, we've done it."
757
01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:38,040
We were proved wrong. You have to
play till the 120th, the 125th minute,
758
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:42,880
and be at your maximum level,
to stay focused and win the match.
759
01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:50,280
It was extremely bitter
for Eric Oelschlägel
760
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:53,880
that he didn't look good
when it went to 3:3.
761
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:56,280
That is a personal tragedy.
762
01:04:56,640 --> 01:05:01,760
I don't think it will bowl him over,
but it is bitter for Borussia Dortmund.
763
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:06,960
It was our own fault,
And of course it's worst
764
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:11,560
when you're on the bench
and want to help the team yourself.
765
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:25,360
I knew from my time at Bremen
how lots of players take penalties.
766
01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:29,000
I knew I'm quite good with penalties.
767
01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:37,400
But overall, I have to admit
the Bremen penalty-takers were better.
768
01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:50,040
You can play badly or have no chance,
but to lead twice in extra time,
769
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:53,960
then as the home team,
and also with the quality we have,
770
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:59,000
you have to see out the win
and not let it come down to penalties.
771
01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:02,880
We failed to do that.
Overall, we didn't defend well enough.
772
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:08,720
It's annoying, to be honest, because we
wanted to progress in the competition.
773
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:11,880
No, we'll do it here.
774
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:16,040
We were playing Bremen. Tough opponents
for everyone this season.
775
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:21,360
They're hard to play against. Good team.
It was 3:3 in the end. We're out.
776
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:26,200
But Piszczek wasn't there.
Akanji wasn't there. Sancho was ill.
777
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:30,440
Marco went off at half-time.
Two goalkeepers weren't there...
778
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:33,440
No one's talking about that?
70657
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