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Phil spector interview.
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Roll 28.
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Ok. Good. Go.
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Good. Here we go.
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There. Yeah.
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What is this?
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He's wearing a button
that says "back"
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to mono."
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"Back to mono."
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Yeah. All right.
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"The wall of sound."
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All it is is, it's reverb.
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You cook it down.
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You mix it down time and again.
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Oh, that reverb... what
it is is, it's mud. It's...
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Good morning, maggie. Hello.
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Excuse me. Could I have
a glass of water, please?
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Of course.
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Thank you.
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He has us in there... 40
musicians, 20 hours a day,
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working on one note... One note...
Until it's perfect.
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Thank you.
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Thank you very much.
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Not at all. Not at all.
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Excuse me. Here you are.
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Thank you. You're welcome.
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Wasn't much of a singer, but..
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Ok.
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Linda!
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Where's she staying? Someone!
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Get her bags to the hotel!
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Get her installed.
Whatever she needs!
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New york's on the phone.
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About what?
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Your television show.
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Television show... it can wait.
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The gun, the blood
spatter, that whole wall.
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Lana clarkson, suicide threats,
depression... james,
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you know what I'm looking for.
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Did they feed you on the plane?
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What do you think I am... crazy?
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Get her something to eat.
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I don't need anything to eat.
I need a doctor.
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Nick stavros, rpi...
Linda kenney baden.
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Hi. I won't touch you.
I'm very sick.
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I need the case laws on televised,
federal and california.
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Grounds for exception,
grounds for appeal.
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At least we can slow them down.
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Linda!
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Could you get me
a cup of tea, please?
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Here's the part never cut in.
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Raw footage.
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Phil spector interview.
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Roll 28.
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That was fantastic.
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Some wonderful material.
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I'm so grateful to you.
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Oh, thank you.
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Excellent.
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Who is the girl in the picture?
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I don't know her name.
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Phil didn't, either.
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Phil... he can attract a girl?
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Why not? He can attract a girl.
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He can get her to his house.
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Afterwards, he's on his track.
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How can he keep her there?
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You tell me.
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With a gun.
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He thinks he has to
have a gun..
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I think we've covered
just about everything.
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Ah.
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Some questions at... Ok.
All right, all right.
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Linda, please.
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Come on. We've got 3 days'
worth to do in half an hour.
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How far this goes back.
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To the desert.
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To the moors...
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Thank you for coming.
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You said that.
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"Telegraph," london,
fax to phil.
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Day of the shooting.
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"Lost genius of rock 'n' roll".
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Yeah, I know about the article.
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What you don't know...
Read the article...
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He's been cold sober
for 10 years.
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Cold sober. That night, house
of blues and lana clarkson.
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Uh-huh.
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Article sets him off.
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Hmm. That's a shame.
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It sets him off.
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Yes, but how does that
help your case?
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My case, in court
tomorrow, all right?
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How does it help your case
that he's nuts and he's drunk?
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He still put the gun
in the girl's mouth.
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We've got right there...
Yeah, I read that.
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Maggie, play her the fucking
audiotape, first officers?
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I read it.
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I want you to hear it.
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Phil and the first officers.
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Let's go. Uh.
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This piece of shit!
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I don't know what
the fucking problem was,
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but she certainly had no right
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to come to my fucking castle and
blow her fucking head open!
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I don't see the case.
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No? He's drunk. He's enraged.
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He mouths off to the cops.
Why is he enraged?
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You heard it.
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Is that a man who
just shot somebody?
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That's hearsay. They'll
never allow it into court.
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"The people vs. Cruz".
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James?
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"The people vs. Lou."
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He put the gun in the
girl's mouth... No.
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He pulled the trigger.
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Where's the blood? Where's
the massive blood spatter?
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I don't know where the
massive blood spatter is.
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This is my vacation in venice...
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First-class tickets,
5-star hotel.
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You know, we have a
meeting with him tonight.
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Not me.
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You're here. Why are you here?
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I do it for a living.
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I'm listening.
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62 grand worth of a vacation.
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My hourly rate, out of the
office, door to door,
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24 hours a day.
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30 grand on top,
and I'll give you 3 days,
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if that's any use to you.
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Thank you.
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So is that any use to you?
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You give me your assessment.
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And you put back my vacation
and you pay for it.
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Stop negotiating.
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And I need a shot.
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Will you find me a doctor?
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James!
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James, drive her to the hotel.
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A doctor when she gets there.
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You walk her to the room.
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Other side have those outtakes?
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Not yet.
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They're filing to admit the
testimony of 5 women...
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Yeah, I read the
grand jury testimony.
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This is gonna be your office.
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Oh, 5 women. Count them.
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5 women on oath before
the grand jury.
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"He pulled a gun on me.
He wanted sex."
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Cold sober for 10 years, and
now he's just getting...
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Well, so what, bruce? You ever
hear the phrase "to hell with it?"
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You've got a gun nut.
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He goes around waving
loaded guns.
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You've got 5 women
come out of the woodwork...
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"He did the same thing to me."
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You've got the chauffeur.
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The chauffeur is on record...
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"I think I just
killed somebody."
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Well, exclude the woman.
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How? On ewol?
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You bet.
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No, I say the judge
allows it under caitlyn.
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In which case it's reversible.
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I'm doing a tv show.
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Really? About the case?
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No, independent of the case.
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Oh, great.
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Now, the chauffeur.
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Bruce, bruce, bruce,
he shot the girl.
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He shot the girl, all right?
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He's a freak.
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Those are the public
who don't hate him.
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He's a genius.
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He transformed the
entire music industry.
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What's that... what's that
kid's name... james?
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James. James?
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I'm linda kenney baden.
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Could you tell me what this is?
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I'll give you a dollar
if you can tell me.
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Is it something
to do with music?
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Why would you say that?
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Because the case
has to do with music.
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No, no, no.
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The case has nothing
to do with music.
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No. This is an insert that allows
a 45 rpm record to be played
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on an lp phonograph, ok?
Now... Ok.
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What is this?
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Something to do with
an early computer.
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Mmm.
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Put it on your key chain.
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It's a piece of the past.
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Mmm.
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This kid doesn't know
what a phonograph is,
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a 45, a... a transistor radio.
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Nobody on the jury is gonna
know anything except your guy's
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a murderer and a freak.
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The girl killed herself.
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Well, maybe, but I don't
want to take that case.
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There... I don't like that case.
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There is no evidence.
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There's no blood
spatter on his cuff.
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Well, you've got... as
to the blood spatter...
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There is no blood spatter
on the back wall. Why?
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Why?
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Linda, the bullet
lodged in the skull.
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The skull was intact.
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All the blood in the
brain matter had to come
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out of the mouth toward him.
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Exact model of
the coat he wore.
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Exact model.
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Blood spatter?
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You find it. Go ahead.
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It's more than a pinpoint, bruce.
I read the report.
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It's more than one, and...
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And it is inconsistent with
anything but a defensive...
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Bruce...
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A defensive movement. And the angle
of the shot is inconsistent.
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The only way he walks...
I think he's not guilty.
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Of course you do. The only way,
however, that he walks is what?
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She shot herself.
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That's right. Why?
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She was depressed.
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We have a history
of e-mails, comments...
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They let o.J. Go. They
let michael jackson go.
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They are not gonna let him go.
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They will be trying him for
the murder of o.J.'S wife,
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and they will find him guilty.
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Put on the tape.
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The girl was crazy, linda.
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She made this tape to promote
herself as an actress.
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Go ahead.
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Dead broke tower,
the one and only...
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I need some groceries
at the hotel, please.
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Little richard.
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Richard, which do you prefer?
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"Little" or "richard"?
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Folks just call me
whatever it is that
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jumps in their head at that
moment, then come out with it.
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There was this one man
at a club I was playing
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down in memphis, my
house at one time.
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And I'd like to
thank you, dizzy,
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for having me on the show.
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Well, dizzy, follow me?
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Yes, richard, I do.
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Your car is here.
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Well, its... thanks.
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Dilly. "Richard" or "little,"
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whichever you prefer.
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Tell us, las vegas, what we...
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The girl, bruce... you show
that in the courtroom,
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what do you get?
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You get sympathy.
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Your only realpolitik,
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your only shot is
to attack the girl,
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and that's a loser because
the jury turns away from you
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like that.
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Ok.
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I got a guy...
Sure looks guilty.
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You tell me, what do I do?
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Sex symbol... He changed
the tune as he came to me.
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He's entitled to a defense.
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What would you tell
your students?
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Would you say, "don't take
the case if it offends"
264
00:10:29,095 --> 00:10:30,095
your sensibilities,"
265
00:10:30,129 --> 00:10:31,463
or is he presumed innocent?
266
00:10:31,497 --> 00:10:32,931
Because you're screwed up,
267
00:10:32,965 --> 00:10:35,367
because you read the same
gossip everybody else did,
268
00:10:35,401 --> 00:10:36,868
so you think he's guilty.
269
00:10:36,902 --> 00:10:37,869
All right, they
think he's guilty.
270
00:10:37,903 --> 00:10:40,038
What are you going
to do about it?
271
00:10:40,072 --> 00:10:41,640
I won't attack the girl.
272
00:10:41,674 --> 00:10:44,009
Oh, yeah. Gonna happen.
Hallelujah!
273
00:10:44,043 --> 00:10:48,013
Hallelujah. Yeah.
274
00:10:56,822 --> 00:10:58,657
Linda!
275
00:10:58,691 --> 00:11:00,492
Linda!
276
00:11:03,396 --> 00:11:07,198
I can't try the case I wish I
had, the defendant I wish I had,
277
00:11:07,233 --> 00:11:10,935
and I inherited the jury.
278
00:11:10,970 --> 00:11:13,004
In a locked room,
he shot the girl.
279
00:11:13,039 --> 00:11:14,706
What can I do to defend him?
280
00:11:14,740 --> 00:11:15,674
He's got cancer, linda.
281
00:11:15,708 --> 00:11:16,948
You don't go
to a dermatologist.
282
00:11:16,976 --> 00:11:18,243
You got cancer, you come to me.
283
00:11:18,277 --> 00:11:19,678
Now, what is my case?
284
00:11:19,712 --> 00:11:21,112
Bruce, new york's on the phone.
285
00:11:21,147 --> 00:11:23,014
It's urgent.
286
00:11:24,517 --> 00:11:25,684
I won't attack the girl.
287
00:11:25,718 --> 00:11:27,752
Then you tell me.
288
00:11:27,787 --> 00:11:29,227
The doctor
will meet us at the hotel.
289
00:11:31,724 --> 00:11:33,358
Thank you.
290
00:11:38,364 --> 00:11:39,864
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
291
00:11:43,469 --> 00:11:45,537
The guns were about the girls.
292
00:11:45,571 --> 00:11:49,274
This guy, his feet
size is zero.
293
00:11:49,308 --> 00:11:51,242
I mean, he couldn't
get laid in a whorehouse
294
00:11:51,277 --> 00:11:52,477
with a money machine.
295
00:11:52,511 --> 00:11:55,413
Now... now he's the starmaker.
296
00:11:55,448 --> 00:11:58,983
He's fucking the ronettes,
darlene love, cher...
297
00:11:59,018 --> 00:12:01,686
Who the fuck knows who he's
fucking... angela lansbury.
298
00:12:01,721 --> 00:12:03,655
I don't know.
299
00:12:03,689 --> 00:12:06,524
Now look. His power
is starting to wane.
300
00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:08,993
Do you think he's
gonna give that up?
301
00:12:09,028 --> 00:12:10,195
He's following ronnie around.
302
00:12:10,229 --> 00:12:11,763
She goes for a cup of coffee,
303
00:12:11,797 --> 00:12:14,199
he's got 3 private
detectives on her trail.
304
00:12:14,233 --> 00:12:15,700
Mm-hmm.
305
00:12:15,735 --> 00:12:18,536
The whole thing was about,
"how do I keep these broads?"
306
00:12:18,571 --> 00:12:20,605
But he didn't
want to keep them.
307
00:12:20,639 --> 00:12:21,840
That's true.
308
00:12:21,874 --> 00:12:23,108
Why?
309
00:12:23,142 --> 00:12:24,275
Ha.
310
00:12:24,310 --> 00:12:27,579
He didn't know what love was.
311
00:12:27,613 --> 00:12:32,851
He knew what pussy was, and
that's as close as he came.
312
00:12:32,885 --> 00:12:34,552
What's your favorite
of all the things
313
00:12:34,587 --> 00:12:36,387
that you mixed in those days?
314
00:12:36,422 --> 00:12:38,690
Well, I mean, "river
deep", mountain high."
315
00:12:38,724 --> 00:12:39,758
Yes.
316
00:12:39,792 --> 00:12:40,759
That was the anthem.
317
00:12:40,793 --> 00:12:42,660
Fantastic. Yeah.
318
00:12:42,695 --> 00:12:44,696
Probably one of the greatest
recordings ever made.
319
00:12:44,730 --> 00:12:46,197
At least, that's
what phil would say.
320
00:12:46,232 --> 00:12:49,567
Yeah. So I suppose you
guys were editing
321
00:12:49,602 --> 00:12:51,603
everything with a razor?
322
00:12:51,637 --> 00:12:52,837
Well, it was the old days.
323
00:12:52,872 --> 00:12:55,340
You know, you got to clip
everything, and it was mono,
324
00:12:55,374 --> 00:12:56,608
so you know.
325
00:12:56,642 --> 00:12:58,443
Quarter-inch tape?
326
00:12:58,477 --> 00:13:04,149
Quarter-inch tape, reel to
reel, 8 track, live sound.
327
00:13:04,183 --> 00:13:06,518
It was more realistic to be live
than there was mono.
328
00:13:08,154 --> 00:13:09,220
I've always wanted to know...
329
00:13:09,255 --> 00:13:11,289
What's the difference
between rich...
330
00:13:41,854 --> 00:13:43,588
His father.
331
00:13:43,622 --> 00:13:46,157
He says his father shot
himself when he was 5,
332
00:13:46,192 --> 00:13:47,826
but philip was 5 in 1944.
333
00:13:47,860 --> 00:13:49,594
He didn't shoot himself
when he was 5.
334
00:13:49,628 --> 00:13:51,696
He killed himself
when phil was 10... 1949.
335
00:13:51,730 --> 00:13:52,697
How? With a gun?
336
00:13:52,731 --> 00:13:54,065
Uh-uh.
337
00:13:54,099 --> 00:13:57,035
Took the gas pipe, went into
the garage, turned the car on.
338
00:13:57,069 --> 00:13:58,102
Mmm.
339
00:13:58,137 --> 00:13:59,137
You ever meet him?
340
00:13:59,171 --> 00:14:00,672
No, ma'am.
341
00:14:00,706 --> 00:14:02,207
I'm linda. Please.
342
00:14:12,685 --> 00:14:13,766
Here we go.
343
00:14:16,689 --> 00:14:19,591
mr. spector
prefers you to walk.
344
00:14:21,994 --> 00:14:24,362
Just the woman. Just the woman.
345
00:14:24,396 --> 00:14:26,231
It's ok.
346
00:17:27,012 --> 00:17:32,183
♪ Anybody here seen my
old friend abraham ♪
347
00:17:32,217 --> 00:17:37,555
♪ and can you tell me
where he's gone? ♪
348
00:17:37,589 --> 00:17:45,463
"Abraham, martin,
and john," 1968,
349
00:17:45,497 --> 00:17:48,232
and then they threw in
bobby... bobby kennedy.
350
00:17:48,267 --> 00:17:52,503
Now, we know lincoln
freed the slaves,
351
00:17:52,538 --> 00:17:57,008
dr. king fought for
equality, john...
352
00:17:57,042 --> 00:17:59,402
Screw the nazi spy
and anything else
353
00:17:59,411 --> 00:18:01,646
that would hold still
for 10 minutes.
354
00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:05,750
What the hell did bobby do?
355
00:18:05,784 --> 00:18:07,685
He fucked with the teamsters.
356
00:18:07,719 --> 00:18:09,120
Get over here.
357
00:18:09,154 --> 00:18:16,027
Now, if you look at the dates,
"abraham, martin, and john"
358
00:18:16,061 --> 00:18:21,099
was recorded june 2, 1968.
359
00:18:21,133 --> 00:18:25,970
That's 3 days before
they shot bobby.
360
00:18:26,004 --> 00:18:30,141
They went back, chucked
him in as garnish.
361
00:18:30,175 --> 00:18:33,311
Traiga bebidas a la sala
de música, por favor!
362
00:18:33,345 --> 00:18:34,412
Sí, señor.
363
00:18:34,446 --> 00:18:36,314
Here.
364
00:18:36,348 --> 00:18:41,385
Now, teddy... teddy
kennedy drowns a girl
365
00:18:41,420 --> 00:18:43,387
on martha's vineyard.
366
00:18:43,422 --> 00:18:46,290
Walks away from
the scene of the crime...
367
00:18:46,325 --> 00:18:50,228
Hid under a blanket 72 hours...
368
00:18:50,262 --> 00:18:56,100
A teenage girl who he
had befriended...
369
00:18:56,135 --> 00:19:00,605
Drowns her in a
volkswagen... 300 million
370
00:19:00,639 --> 00:19:04,208
americans, nobody says "boo."
371
00:19:04,243 --> 00:19:08,045
And p. S... teddy kennedy,
what in the world
372
00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:10,081
had he ever accomplished?
373
00:19:10,115 --> 00:19:13,351
His family tossed him the bone.
374
00:19:13,385 --> 00:19:16,254
"Oh, you can't get
your masseuse license?
375
00:19:16,288 --> 00:19:19,423
"Here, sit in the senate
40 years.
376
00:19:19,458 --> 00:19:23,094
Have fun."
377
00:19:23,128 --> 00:19:28,299
A girl shoots herself
in my house,
378
00:19:28,333 --> 00:19:32,670
and that is the legacy my
children will live with.
379
00:19:32,704 --> 00:19:33,938
Come on in.
380
00:19:33,972 --> 00:19:38,309
If I go in there, will you
keep me there by force?
381
00:19:38,343 --> 00:19:40,912
Here we go.
382
00:19:42,247 --> 00:19:44,549
So where's bruce?
383
00:19:44,583 --> 00:19:46,817
Bruce had to go back
to new york.
384
00:19:46,852 --> 00:19:47,818
Ah... ooh.
385
00:19:47,853 --> 00:19:49,687
He went back to new york.
386
00:19:49,721 --> 00:19:51,656
God, you keep it cold in here.
387
00:19:51,690 --> 00:19:53,925
No, I need it cold.
388
00:19:53,959 --> 00:19:55,159
You know why I like bruce?
389
00:19:55,194 --> 00:19:56,494
Why?
390
00:19:56,528 --> 00:19:59,197
He got john gotti off.
391
00:19:59,231 --> 00:20:00,932
Stone killer, mafia chief,
392
00:20:00,966 --> 00:20:05,403
bruce walked him out of
court, guilty as errol flynn.
393
00:20:05,437 --> 00:20:06,671
Oh, you are cold.
394
00:20:06,705 --> 00:20:07,705
Mmm.
395
00:20:07,739 --> 00:20:11,475
Come on. We'll warm you up.
396
00:20:11,510 --> 00:20:13,044
Here. Here you go.
397
00:20:14,713 --> 00:20:19,684
You know, I always wanted
to get out of all of this.
398
00:20:19,718 --> 00:20:21,485
You know?
399
00:20:23,689 --> 00:20:27,491
Lawrence de arabia...
He got out.
400
00:20:27,526 --> 00:20:29,327
You know?
401
00:20:29,361 --> 00:20:34,065
I wanted to be an interpreter
in the united nations.
402
00:20:34,099 --> 00:20:40,071
People scoffed at that, but...
It's a matter of record.
403
00:20:40,105 --> 00:20:42,039
I always spoke spanish.
404
00:20:42,074 --> 00:20:47,111
You'll find it in my love of
the latino beat, in my songs.
405
00:20:47,145 --> 00:20:49,981
After the beatles, there
was still a lot to do.
406
00:20:50,015 --> 00:20:51,882
I didn't want to do it.
407
00:20:51,917 --> 00:20:53,985
Just didn't want to do it.
408
00:20:57,756 --> 00:21:00,358
You didn't want to do it? Why?
409
00:21:00,392 --> 00:21:02,260
I'd done it.
410
00:21:02,294 --> 00:21:04,228
What more was there left
for me to do?
411
00:21:04,263 --> 00:21:05,196
What?
412
00:21:05,230 --> 00:21:08,566
The girls, the money,
the fame. No.
413
00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:12,136
You know, I thought
I'd move to belize.
414
00:21:12,170 --> 00:21:14,105
Is that a fantasy?
415
00:21:14,139 --> 00:21:16,274
Everything I've done in my
life has been a fantasy.
416
00:21:16,308 --> 00:21:17,642
I made it happen.
417
00:21:17,676 --> 00:21:20,111
I couldn't keep you here
by force
418
00:21:20,145 --> 00:21:22,613
because they took all my guns.
419
00:21:26,885 --> 00:21:31,222
You know, it never escaped
me that people thought,
420
00:21:31,256 --> 00:21:38,029
or were taught to think,
that I was a clown
421
00:21:38,063 --> 00:21:39,664
or freak of some sort
422
00:21:39,698 --> 00:21:45,603
and that my accomplishments
were somehow not to be admired.
423
00:21:45,637 --> 00:21:50,641
But in their breadth of
number, the sign of a freak.
424
00:21:53,011 --> 00:21:55,046
But I understand.
425
00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,482
It's called "envy."
426
00:21:58,517 --> 00:22:02,687
I believe it's even
mentioned in the bible.
427
00:22:02,721 --> 00:22:06,791
Extraordinary
accomplishments, linda,
428
00:22:06,825 --> 00:22:11,228
transforms the grateful
into an audience
429
00:22:11,263 --> 00:22:15,566
and the envious, linda,
into a mob.
430
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:16,701
You watch.
431
00:22:16,735 --> 00:22:19,603
See if I'm not right.
432
00:22:19,638 --> 00:22:24,308
It stems from a feeling
of inadequacy
433
00:22:24,343 --> 00:22:27,712
which is a lack of courage.
434
00:22:27,746 --> 00:22:29,146
Yeah, I understand.
435
00:22:29,181 --> 00:22:34,885
I had it, too, but I dealt
with it by doing something.
436
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:36,754
You know?
437
00:22:36,788 --> 00:22:38,856
What was I to do?
438
00:22:38,890 --> 00:22:40,091
Did I tear anybody down?
439
00:22:40,125 --> 00:22:43,794
No.
440
00:22:43,829 --> 00:22:45,763
They were no threat to me.
441
00:22:45,797 --> 00:22:48,032
I was too busy.
442
00:22:49,735 --> 00:22:50,701
It's pretty, eh?
443
00:22:50,736 --> 00:22:51,736
Hmm.
444
00:22:51,770 --> 00:22:52,837
Here you go.
445
00:22:52,871 --> 00:22:55,039
Thank you.
446
00:22:55,073 --> 00:22:58,642
Why do you have so many guns?
447
00:22:58,677 --> 00:22:59,744
I might need one.
448
00:22:59,778 --> 00:23:01,812
Why would you need
more than one?
449
00:23:01,847 --> 00:23:02,847
I don't know.
450
00:23:02,848 --> 00:23:04,148
How many pairs of
shoes do you have?
451
00:23:04,182 --> 00:23:05,182
Mmm.
452
00:23:05,217 --> 00:23:07,151
How many feet?
453
00:23:07,185 --> 00:23:09,320
But they're gone.
454
00:23:09,354 --> 00:23:12,156
And I'm not going to shoot
you, so why don't we sit down?
455
00:23:12,190 --> 00:23:15,226
Mmm. Thank you.
456
00:23:15,260 --> 00:23:18,629
So how do you feel about guns?
457
00:23:18,663 --> 00:23:19,663
How do you feel about them?
458
00:23:19,698 --> 00:23:20,998
I can take them or leave them.
459
00:23:21,032 --> 00:23:25,302
Yeah, but if you leave them and
somebody pulls one on you,
460
00:23:25,337 --> 00:23:29,006
well, there you are... Anybody
ever pull a gun on you?
461
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:30,674
You think I shot
the girl, linda?
462
00:23:30,709 --> 00:23:31,675
Hmm.
463
00:23:31,710 --> 00:23:32,676
You're smart.
464
00:23:32,711 --> 00:23:33,911
High praise, indeed.
465
00:23:33,945 --> 00:23:34,945
You think I shot the girl?
466
00:23:34,980 --> 00:23:36,847
Your chauffer is on record.
467
00:23:36,882 --> 00:23:40,551
"My boss came out. I think
I just killed somebody."
468
00:23:49,027 --> 00:23:49,960
Tomorrow's "times,"
469
00:23:49,995 --> 00:23:53,898
today's "times," you're quoted
470
00:23:53,932 --> 00:23:56,333
as denouncing "the
hitler-like d.A."
471
00:23:56,368 --> 00:23:58,569
And his storm
trooper henchmen."
472
00:23:58,603 --> 00:24:01,605
Do you let people
screw with you?
473
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:06,444
That's the white piano. That's
where john wrote "imagine."
474
00:24:06,478 --> 00:24:12,082
Lenny, lenny bruce, he
would sit here at the end,
475
00:24:12,117 --> 00:24:13,617
talking about the
fourth amendment.
476
00:24:13,652 --> 00:24:15,953
That's how nuts
they had him at the end.
477
00:24:15,987 --> 00:24:21,959
Shooting smack, talking
about the commerce clause.
478
00:24:21,993 --> 00:24:23,861
Wisest man I ever met.
479
00:24:23,895 --> 00:24:26,864
There's john, john lennon,
clubbed up with his wife at
480
00:24:26,898 --> 00:24:32,136
the dakota, prior to which he was living
in 21/2 rooms in the east village,
481
00:24:32,170 --> 00:24:36,140
head shaved, hadn't bathed
in a year and a half.
482
00:24:36,174 --> 00:24:37,675
This genius.
483
00:24:37,709 --> 00:24:38,709
What's this?
484
00:24:38,743 --> 00:24:40,044
Thank you, vernon.
485
00:24:42,147 --> 00:24:43,547
Do we know him?
486
00:24:43,582 --> 00:24:46,584
As your attorney,
I must counsel you not,
487
00:24:46,618 --> 00:24:50,154
whatever the provocation,
not to talk to anyone.
488
00:24:50,188 --> 00:24:53,190
They're indicting me
for murder.
489
00:24:56,795 --> 00:24:58,229
All right, sorry.
490
00:24:58,263 --> 00:25:01,298
"You... you lost that
loving feeling".
491
00:25:01,333 --> 00:25:02,366
What was it?
492
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,401
Are you kidding me?
493
00:25:04,436 --> 00:25:05,636
What was it?
494
00:25:05,670 --> 00:25:09,940
It was... it was the
greatest song ever released.
495
00:25:09,975 --> 00:25:13,911
I sold over 2.5 million copies.
496
00:25:13,945 --> 00:25:16,080
You say the jews invented
the music business.
497
00:25:16,114 --> 00:25:18,849
The jews didn't invent
the music business.
498
00:25:18,884 --> 00:25:19,984
I invented the music business.
499
00:25:20,018 --> 00:25:24,054
7th avenue, new york,
there's a statue,
500
00:25:24,089 --> 00:25:25,723
a little old
jewish guy, yarmulke,
501
00:25:25,757 --> 00:25:27,558
bent over a sewing machine.
502
00:25:27,592 --> 00:25:29,860
He's that guy who invented
ready to wear.
503
00:25:29,895 --> 00:25:32,229
I invented the music business.
504
00:25:32,264 --> 00:25:33,664
Where's the statue of me?
505
00:25:33,698 --> 00:25:37,835
Where's the presidential medal?
506
00:25:43,375 --> 00:25:45,109
Sidney pottier broke
the color barrier?
507
00:25:45,143 --> 00:25:47,378
Are you kidding me?
508
00:25:47,412 --> 00:25:50,047
He was playing superman.
509
00:25:50,081 --> 00:25:51,982
You want to know who he was?
510
00:25:52,017 --> 00:25:56,420
He was an uptight frightened
white guy's version
511
00:25:56,454 --> 00:25:57,755
of a black man.
512
00:25:57,789 --> 00:25:59,390
I put the ronettes
in their home.
513
00:25:59,424 --> 00:26:03,827
I put black america
in the white home.
514
00:26:03,862 --> 00:26:06,764
The first time you got
felt up, the first time
515
00:26:06,798 --> 00:26:10,768
you got somebody's
hand on you... guess what.
516
00:26:10,802 --> 00:26:12,369
You were listening
to one of my songs.
517
00:26:12,404 --> 00:26:14,572
Did you kill that girl?
518
00:26:14,606 --> 00:26:17,641
I thought attorneys
never ask that question.
519
00:26:17,676 --> 00:26:19,710
I'm the christmas help.
I'm going home.
520
00:26:19,744 --> 00:26:21,445
Ah.
521
00:26:21,479 --> 00:26:23,948
"I think I just
killed somebody."
522
00:26:23,982 --> 00:26:29,053
My chauffeur at the time
barely spoke english.
523
00:26:29,087 --> 00:26:32,222
I came out, having
seen what I saw,
524
00:26:32,257 --> 00:26:36,827
and I said, "I think
I should call somebody."
525
00:26:36,861 --> 00:26:39,196
Is that true, philip?
526
00:26:39,230 --> 00:26:40,497
That's what my mother
used to call me.
527
00:26:40,532 --> 00:26:43,000
Did you shoot her?
528
00:26:43,034 --> 00:26:45,903
Lana clarkson?
529
00:26:45,937 --> 00:26:47,671
Listen. Listen.
530
00:26:47,706 --> 00:26:48,772
Come.
531
00:26:48,807 --> 00:26:52,242
Let me tell you about
lana clarkson.
532
00:26:52,277 --> 00:26:59,516
All her life, all she
wanted was this thing.
533
00:26:59,551 --> 00:27:05,556
It was a drug. She thought
it was called "fame,"
534
00:27:05,590 --> 00:27:11,595
and to put here in here, in
hollywood, with this drug all around,
535
00:27:11,630 --> 00:27:14,498
why don't you put a diabetic
in a chocolate shop?
536
00:27:14,532 --> 00:27:16,934
Why don't you hire
a recovering coke-head
537
00:27:16,968 --> 00:27:20,304
to work in a meth lab?
538
00:27:20,338 --> 00:27:23,340
Did hollywood kill marilyn?
539
00:27:23,375 --> 00:27:29,313
She killed herself with help
from an unfulfillable longing.
540
00:27:29,347 --> 00:27:34,952
Or maybe she just got drunk
and lost count of the pills.
541
00:27:34,986 --> 00:27:36,854
Did you ever do that?
542
00:27:36,888 --> 00:27:41,425
Lana clarkson, at her death,
had more prescription
543
00:27:41,459 --> 00:27:43,927
pharmaceuticals in her
than walgreen's.
544
00:27:43,962 --> 00:27:45,496
No, no.
545
00:27:45,530 --> 00:27:47,665
The toxicology screens
showed she had only...
546
00:27:47,699 --> 00:27:48,699
Bullshit. Bullshit!
547
00:27:48,733 --> 00:27:50,901
I looked in her eyes!
548
00:27:50,935 --> 00:27:53,203
She had the equivalent of two
vicodin and some antihistamine.
549
00:27:53,238 --> 00:27:54,905
Come on, the prosecution...
550
00:27:54,939 --> 00:27:58,342
Do you think I don't know
a hophead when I see one?
551
00:27:58,376 --> 00:27:59,410
.14.
552
00:27:59,444 --> 00:28:01,178
All right, that's it.
553
00:28:01,212 --> 00:28:02,980
She was gone.
554
00:28:03,014 --> 00:28:04,014
Please.
555
00:28:04,049 --> 00:28:05,049
Please.
556
00:28:05,083 --> 00:28:09,119
I can't go on about that stuff.
557
00:28:09,154 --> 00:28:10,688
I'm done.
558
00:28:12,357 --> 00:28:15,092
Gonna wear that cross tomorrow?
559
00:28:18,530 --> 00:28:21,165
It's a mayan artifact.
560
00:28:21,199 --> 00:28:23,400
I have a question, linda.
561
00:28:23,435 --> 00:28:27,638
If jesus was so big,
why did they kill him?
562
00:28:27,672 --> 00:28:28,906
Because he was the son of god.
563
00:28:28,940 --> 00:28:30,340
No!
564
00:28:30,375 --> 00:28:32,476
Because he was still
the son of god.
565
00:28:32,510 --> 00:28:34,678
"Still" is not news.
566
00:28:34,713 --> 00:28:38,348
Somebody is "still"
the greatest beauty, actor,
567
00:28:38,383 --> 00:28:41,452
record producer... you can't
put that in the paper.
568
00:28:41,486 --> 00:28:42,920
What is news, then?
569
00:28:42,954 --> 00:28:46,223
News is that he likes
little boys,
570
00:28:46,257 --> 00:28:50,561
that he's a thief, that
he cheats on his wife.
571
00:28:50,595 --> 00:28:54,565
Or in the absence of any
fault, that he's just
572
00:28:54,599 --> 00:28:56,834
too goddamn big
for his fucking britches,
573
00:28:56,868 --> 00:29:00,571
which is why
they killed christ.
574
00:29:00,605 --> 00:29:02,906
See this here?
575
00:29:02,941 --> 00:29:05,843
"You lost that loving
feeling", this was...
576
00:29:05,877 --> 00:29:08,445
This was the best
song ever released.
577
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,080
They told me it was too long.
578
00:29:10,115 --> 00:29:13,117
Came in at 4 minutes
and 5 seconds.
579
00:29:13,151 --> 00:29:17,221
Nobody could release
a cut over 21/2 minutes.
580
00:29:17,255 --> 00:29:19,089
So, what did I do?
581
00:29:19,124 --> 00:29:21,425
I redid the labels.
582
00:29:21,459 --> 00:29:26,263
"Running time 2 minutes,
48 seconds."
583
00:29:26,297 --> 00:29:30,400
I didn't change the length.
I changed the label.
584
00:29:30,435 --> 00:29:34,104
They played it.
It made everybody rich.
585
00:29:34,139 --> 00:29:37,775
It's not, linda, that you
have to go against the tide.
586
00:29:37,809 --> 00:29:42,045
Some people... some people,
that's all they can do.
587
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:43,347
You understand?
588
00:29:43,381 --> 00:29:48,852
Our friend lawrence...
5'4", s&m freak.
589
00:29:48,887 --> 00:29:52,990
Greatest general
that ever lived.
590
00:29:53,024 --> 00:29:55,826
End of his life, he retired,
591
00:29:55,860 --> 00:30:01,064
took on a false name,
enlisted as a private.
592
00:30:01,099 --> 00:30:02,366
What did he want?
593
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,234
Money, fame?
594
00:30:04,269 --> 00:30:06,603
They made him sick.
595
00:30:06,638 --> 00:30:09,973
What he wanted was what
he had in the desert.
596
00:30:10,008 --> 00:30:13,944
What he wanted was
privacy, you understand?
597
00:30:13,978 --> 00:30:15,245
They say I'm standoffish.
598
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,614
I'm not standoffish.
599
00:30:17,649 --> 00:30:20,050
I'm inaccessible.
600
00:30:20,084 --> 00:30:21,718
Always have been.
601
00:30:21,753 --> 00:30:24,588
Is it... is it that
I don't like people?
602
00:30:24,622 --> 00:30:26,590
I don't know.
603
00:30:26,624 --> 00:30:31,161
I never spend
any time with them.
604
00:30:31,196 --> 00:30:34,698
Ah. Ok.
605
00:30:34,732 --> 00:30:36,600
Ah, special for you.
606
00:30:36,634 --> 00:30:37,835
Thank you.
607
00:30:37,869 --> 00:30:38,836
Here.
608
00:30:38,870 --> 00:30:41,038
I can't even do this for you.
609
00:30:41,072 --> 00:30:43,674
My hands are shaking.
610
00:30:43,708 --> 00:30:46,977
I'm taking these drugs,
neuroleptic drugs.
611
00:30:47,011 --> 00:30:53,183
And a side effect is,
it mimics ms.
612
00:30:53,218 --> 00:30:55,819
So I can't play anymore.
613
00:30:59,757 --> 00:31:04,461
I don't see how they thought
I could have held a gun.
614
00:31:59,684 --> 00:32:01,018
Number 42
on the "rolling stones" list
615
00:32:01,052 --> 00:32:03,153
of the 500 greatest
songs of all time,
616
00:32:03,187 --> 00:32:06,189
"be my baby," 1963,
by phil spector.
617
00:32:06,224 --> 00:32:08,659
Spector is arraigned today in
los angeles superior court
618
00:32:08,693 --> 00:32:10,894
for the murder of the actress...
Cut it off, will you?
619
00:32:10,929 --> 00:32:12,529
Bruce is in the car with phil?
620
00:32:12,563 --> 00:32:15,465
That's right.
621
00:32:15,500 --> 00:32:17,134
It says he said,
"we should call somebody."
622
00:32:17,168 --> 00:32:18,468
Yeah, well, that's what
he told me he said.
623
00:32:18,503 --> 00:32:20,037
How do you get that
into the record?
624
00:32:20,071 --> 00:32:22,039
You break the chauffeur or
you put him on the stand.
625
00:32:22,073 --> 00:32:23,674
Spector? Mm-hmm.
626
00:32:23,708 --> 00:32:24,675
How can you do that?
627
00:32:24,709 --> 00:32:25,749
You can't.
628
00:32:29,414 --> 00:32:30,714
I thought you were going home.
629
00:32:30,748 --> 00:32:32,249
It's the only hard
evidence they have.
630
00:32:32,283 --> 00:32:34,551
Everything else can
be argued both sides.
631
00:32:34,619 --> 00:32:35,986
He's a freak.
632
00:32:36,020 --> 00:32:37,754
They're gonna convict him of,
"I just don't like you."
633
00:32:37,789 --> 00:32:42,059
Well, you break the
chauffeur on the stand.
634
00:32:42,093 --> 00:32:43,527
What?
635
00:32:43,561 --> 00:32:45,362
As a cop, I'd say da's got
the chauffeur jammed up.
636
00:32:45,396 --> 00:32:46,630
On illegal immigration?
637
00:32:46,664 --> 00:32:48,699
No, you're not using
enough gun.
638
00:32:48,733 --> 00:32:50,567
My money, they told
this guy, look.
639
00:32:50,601 --> 00:32:53,103
Here's a video of you
helping a woman.
640
00:32:53,137 --> 00:32:54,504
Oh, look.
She don't walk too well.
641
00:32:54,539 --> 00:32:56,073
Has she been drugged?
642
00:32:56,107 --> 00:32:58,809
Oh, and here you are helping
her to go into the house
643
00:32:58,843 --> 00:33:01,578
of this man who was paying
you, from which house
644
00:33:01,612 --> 00:33:02,713
she emerged dead.
645
00:33:02,747 --> 00:33:03,714
Guess what.
646
00:33:03,748 --> 00:33:05,349
You're an accessory to murder.
647
00:33:05,383 --> 00:33:08,085
They've got your guy jammed up
tighter than kelsey's nuts.
648
00:33:08,119 --> 00:33:11,119
Well, then he's gonna
need a good lawyer.
649
00:34:00,571 --> 00:34:02,472
Back, back. Step aside.
650
00:34:02,507 --> 00:34:03,673
Stay back.
651
00:34:03,708 --> 00:34:05,108
Phil.
652
00:34:05,143 --> 00:34:07,077
Giovanetta ricci of teleitalia.
653
00:34:07,111 --> 00:34:12,749
Phil, I'd like to be inside
your mind for just 5 minutes.
654
00:34:12,784 --> 00:34:14,384
You wouldn't like it.
655
00:34:14,419 --> 00:34:17,187
Phil!
656
00:34:21,893 --> 00:34:23,293
mr. jackson.
657
00:34:23,327 --> 00:34:25,328
Thank you, your honor.
658
00:34:25,363 --> 00:34:27,030
Good morning, everybody.
659
00:34:27,065 --> 00:34:29,099
We spent a lot of time
over the last few days
660
00:34:29,133 --> 00:34:31,134
talking about what you've
read about the case,
661
00:34:31,169 --> 00:34:32,569
what you've heard
about the case,
662
00:34:32,603 --> 00:34:35,639
what you know, what you think
you know about the case.
663
00:34:35,673 --> 00:34:38,341
This is my opportunity to talk
with you for a few minutes
664
00:34:38,376 --> 00:34:41,845
about what we expect the evidence
to show, the actual facts
665
00:34:41,879 --> 00:34:44,848
in the case, to show.
666
00:34:44,882 --> 00:34:47,517
And that evidence,
ladies and gentlemen,
667
00:34:47,552 --> 00:34:51,621
is going to paint
a very, very clear picture.
668
00:34:51,656 --> 00:34:55,192
The picture of a man,
philip spector,
669
00:34:55,226 --> 00:34:58,028
who, when he's confronted
with the right circumstances,
670
00:34:58,062 --> 00:35:00,797
when he's confronted
with the right situation,
671
00:35:00,832 --> 00:35:02,165
turns sinister and deadly.
672
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:03,733
You all right? Yeah.
673
00:35:03,768 --> 00:35:05,688
The evidence is going
to paint a picture of a man
674
00:35:05,703 --> 00:35:11,074
who on february 3, 2003, put a loaded
pistol in lana clarkson's mouth
675
00:35:11,109 --> 00:35:15,512
inside her mouth,
and shot her to death.
676
00:35:15,546 --> 00:35:18,448
This is what
the evidence will show.
677
00:35:18,483 --> 00:35:22,385
But to understand more
fully, more globally, why
678
00:35:22,420 --> 00:35:26,356
philip spector would have done
what he did, how lana clarkson
679
00:35:26,390 --> 00:35:28,825
fell victim to this man, you're
going to be introduced to evidence
680
00:35:28,860 --> 00:35:33,897
of the defendant's very
rich history of violence,
681
00:35:33,931 --> 00:35:37,134
a history of violence
against women,
682
00:35:37,168 --> 00:35:40,170
a history of violence
involving guns.
683
00:35:40,204 --> 00:35:42,939
Ladies and gentlemen, in other
words, through the presentation
684
00:35:42,974 --> 00:35:44,741
of the evidence in this case,
you're going to be introduced
685
00:35:44,775 --> 00:35:48,078
to the real philip spector.
686
00:35:48,112 --> 00:35:52,649
On february 3, 2003,
at about 5:00 in the morning,
687
00:35:52,683 --> 00:35:57,387
a single gunshot cracked the
silence of the normally very quiet
688
00:35:57,421 --> 00:35:59,923
community of
alhambra, california.
689
00:36:32,256 --> 00:36:33,890
Hey, phil!
690
00:36:33,925 --> 00:36:35,525
Hey, phil!
691
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,060
Back to mono!
692
00:36:37,094 --> 00:36:38,862
Back to mono, phil!
693
00:36:38,896 --> 00:36:40,830
Back to mono!
694
00:36:40,865 --> 00:36:42,732
Back to mono, phil!
695
00:36:42,767 --> 00:36:44,501
Back to mono.
696
00:36:44,535 --> 00:36:45,769
Thank you for saying that.
697
00:36:45,803 --> 00:36:48,171
You're welcome,
and that's blood!
698
00:36:48,206 --> 00:36:51,308
That's lana clarkson's blood!
699
00:36:51,342 --> 00:36:56,179
That's lana clarkson's
blood, you fucking murderer!
700
00:36:56,214 --> 00:36:57,254
You freak!
701
00:36:58,249 --> 00:37:01,618
Fucking murderer!
702
00:37:01,652 --> 00:37:03,086
That's her blood!
703
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,422
And so therefore, what?
704
00:37:05,456 --> 00:37:08,692
It comes down to whether she
shot herself or he shot her.
705
00:37:08,726 --> 00:37:10,927
But... Wasn't nobody
else in the room.
706
00:37:10,962 --> 00:37:12,682
What if it were impossible
that he shot her?
707
00:37:12,697 --> 00:37:14,664
The we're back to, why
did she kill herself?
708
00:37:14,699 --> 00:37:16,766
And he had pulled guns
on women in the past.
709
00:37:16,801 --> 00:37:19,102
He ain't putting that
toothpaste back in the tube.
710
00:37:19,136 --> 00:37:20,570
That information is in the air.
711
00:37:20,605 --> 00:37:21,771
It's not going back.
712
00:37:21,806 --> 00:37:23,773
And you've got the...
We've seen all the...
713
00:37:23,808 --> 00:37:26,243
We've seen... you got, um... can
you play that video?
714
00:37:26,277 --> 00:37:27,744
Of course.
715
00:37:31,349 --> 00:37:34,951
He locked the door and he
held me there at gunpoint.
716
00:37:34,986 --> 00:37:39,522
He said, "if you leave,
I'll blow your head off."
717
00:37:39,557 --> 00:37:43,526
I was standing there in
the lobby, in the door.
718
00:37:43,561 --> 00:37:47,764
I turned around, and there
was a gun pointing at me.
719
00:37:47,798 --> 00:37:48,898
I said, "stop that."
720
00:37:48,933 --> 00:37:49,933
This is going nowhere.
721
00:37:49,967 --> 00:37:51,735
Why is it going nowhere?
722
00:37:51,769 --> 00:37:54,504
Because the only way to walk
our guy out of the court...
723
00:37:54,538 --> 00:37:59,009
Because the only question
those folks want to know is,
724
00:37:59,043 --> 00:38:00,343
if she pulled the trigger,
you had better tell me
725
00:38:00,378 --> 00:38:05,949
why she did beyond all doubt,
because I do not like your guy.
726
00:38:05,983 --> 00:38:07,851
Those people in there, all their
lives have got the short end
727
00:38:07,885 --> 00:38:09,085
from the more powerful.
728
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,855
There's nothing
redeeming in our guy.
729
00:38:11,889 --> 00:38:14,024
Given the choice, they're
gonna go for payback time.
730
00:38:14,058 --> 00:38:15,258
On what evidence?
731
00:38:15,293 --> 00:38:16,993
You don't have to convince me.
732
00:38:17,028 --> 00:38:20,463
You have to convince them.
733
00:38:20,498 --> 00:38:22,399
I thought you were
going back to new york.
734
00:38:22,433 --> 00:38:24,868
I'm staying on
for the hotel food.
735
00:38:24,902 --> 00:38:26,703
Get on board
because our case is
736
00:38:26,737 --> 00:38:29,873
she's a suicidal pillhead,
and we have letters
737
00:38:29,907 --> 00:38:33,209
and we have e-mails, and we...
738
00:38:33,244 --> 00:38:37,580
I turned around, and there
was a gun pointing at me.
739
00:38:37,615 --> 00:38:40,350
I said, "stop that."
740
00:38:40,384 --> 00:38:43,853
I said, "put it down."
741
00:38:43,888 --> 00:38:46,656
"Stop. Just..."
742
00:38:46,691 --> 00:38:47,991
Stop.
743
00:38:48,025 --> 00:38:52,128
He was screaming,
"you're not going.
744
00:38:52,163 --> 00:38:54,497
"I'm not unlocking the door.
745
00:38:54,532 --> 00:38:56,132
"I'll blow you away.
746
00:38:56,167 --> 00:38:57,801
I'll shoot you."
747
00:39:05,142 --> 00:39:10,413
Now... now how many of you
think he's guilty?
748
00:39:19,690 --> 00:39:23,626
What if, with all the facts
that seem to be against him...
749
00:39:23,661 --> 00:39:24,594
The girl fucking shot herself.
750
00:39:24,628 --> 00:39:27,697
What if we have testimony
751
00:39:27,732 --> 00:39:31,534
that he'd said in public... that
phil spector had said in public
752
00:39:31,569 --> 00:39:34,437
to lana clarkson... You're
on record as saying
753
00:39:34,472 --> 00:39:37,140
you're never happy
unless you're unhappy.
754
00:39:37,174 --> 00:39:38,274
Yeah.
755
00:39:38,309 --> 00:39:39,442
So does that make me
so unusual?
756
00:39:39,477 --> 00:39:40,577
mr. spector?
757
00:39:40,611 --> 00:39:43,480
How many millions of people..
758
00:39:43,514 --> 00:39:45,849
That's good, and
how many millions...
759
00:39:45,883 --> 00:39:52,689
Freud was, god bless him,
essentially a confidence man.
760
00:39:52,723 --> 00:39:55,725
He didn't invent a cure.
He invented a disease.
761
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:56,793
- Phil!
- Yeah?
762
00:39:56,827 --> 00:39:59,429
Where do you want it from?
763
00:39:59,463 --> 00:40:02,232
Take it from measure 14.
764
00:40:02,266 --> 00:40:04,868
Freud said there was no
cure but that perhaps
765
00:40:04,902 --> 00:40:07,370
he could transform
unbearable unhappiness
766
00:40:07,405 --> 00:40:10,039
into simple human misery.
767
00:40:10,074 --> 00:40:11,775
Jack daniels can do that.
768
00:40:11,809 --> 00:40:13,510
Phil, where
do you want it from?
769
00:40:13,544 --> 00:40:14,511
Oh, man.
770
00:40:14,545 --> 00:40:15,812
A job can do that.
771
00:40:15,846 --> 00:40:17,247
Please, guys!
772
00:40:17,281 --> 00:40:18,615
What are you guys doing, man?
773
00:40:18,649 --> 00:40:21,117
Hey, malingerers,
what do you want?
774
00:40:21,152 --> 00:40:23,820
You want one of them lounge
chairs, floats in your pool?
775
00:40:23,854 --> 00:40:25,088
When did this come in?
776
00:40:25,122 --> 00:40:27,123
A little... We just got that.
777
00:40:27,158 --> 00:40:28,458
Are you cold?
778
00:40:28,492 --> 00:40:30,193
Listen, you want to
rest, go ahead.
779
00:40:30,227 --> 00:40:34,197
Rest until you feel like
picking it up at measure 14.
780
00:40:34,231 --> 00:40:35,198
I don't care.
781
00:40:35,232 --> 00:40:36,166
Let me know.
782
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,201
You know, freud... Freud?
783
00:40:38,235 --> 00:40:39,769
What's freud gonna do?
784
00:40:39,804 --> 00:40:42,138
What is he gonna do...
Change the past?
785
00:40:42,173 --> 00:40:43,907
Tell the fucking client
to indulge his feelings?
786
00:40:43,941 --> 00:40:47,243
I... you know what I say? No.
787
00:40:47,278 --> 00:40:49,646
If he's got the courage,
let the guy go out
788
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:51,114
and make something of his life.
789
00:40:51,148 --> 00:40:52,182
It can be done, you know?
790
00:40:52,216 --> 00:40:53,349
Phil, where
do you want it from?
791
00:40:53,384 --> 00:40:55,585
Yeah? Yeah. Oh, barry,
what do you want?
792
00:40:55,586 --> 00:40:57,287
You want it from measure 14?
793
00:40:57,321 --> 00:40:59,222
No, you know what I want?
794
00:40:59,256 --> 00:41:02,225
I want you motherfuckers...
I'm coming.
795
00:41:02,259 --> 00:41:03,893
Hold on a minute, all right?
796
00:41:03,928 --> 00:41:07,697
Here you go. Hey.
797
00:41:07,731 --> 00:41:08,698
We'll be with you
in a minute. Don't worry.
798
00:41:08,732 --> 00:41:13,403
Don't be stupid...
Ok, motherfuckers.
799
00:41:13,437 --> 00:41:16,506
I told you you should
finish college, huh?
800
00:41:16,540 --> 00:41:19,175
Join the marines, anything
rather than throw yourself
801
00:41:19,210 --> 00:41:22,979
on my... Phil, ok...
Boundless mercy.
802
00:41:23,013 --> 00:41:24,848
Right?
803
00:41:24,882 --> 00:41:28,451
Take you in from the
cold... and you know I did.
804
00:41:28,486 --> 00:41:32,755
You should consider it a
mercy I killed a lot of you,
805
00:41:32,790 --> 00:41:34,691
save you the shame,
walter, of ruining
806
00:41:34,725 --> 00:41:37,460
this simple fucking song.
807
00:41:38,562 --> 00:41:42,999
Oh! What... Oh, my goodness.
808
00:41:43,033 --> 00:41:44,834
Send out for chinese.
809
00:41:44,869 --> 00:41:46,903
We're gonna be here a while.
810
00:41:46,937 --> 00:41:51,407
Ah, ah, ah, ah, ah. See that?
811
00:41:51,442 --> 00:41:53,343
Lesson learned.
812
00:41:53,377 --> 00:41:56,012
Ok, pretty.
We're ready for you. Mwah.
813
00:41:56,046 --> 00:41:57,614
Oh, you moved.
814
00:41:57,648 --> 00:41:58,615
Where were you?
815
00:41:58,649 --> 00:41:59,649
Ha.
816
00:41:59,683 --> 00:42:00,617
Let me see. Oh, yeah.
817
00:42:00,651 --> 00:42:01,618
Here you go.
818
00:42:01,652 --> 00:42:03,319
Thank you.
819
00:42:03,354 --> 00:42:05,622
Let him go out and
do something with his life.
820
00:42:05,656 --> 00:42:07,323
Phil, what do you want?
821
00:42:07,358 --> 00:42:13,029
Uh, play till the lemon
chicken comes.
822
00:42:14,064 --> 00:42:15,865
You're sick?
823
00:42:15,900 --> 00:42:16,900
End of a case,
if you're not sick,
824
00:42:16,934 --> 00:42:18,034
you're not working hard enough.
825
00:42:18,068 --> 00:42:19,802
It's not the end of the case.
826
00:42:19,837 --> 00:42:20,970
You're killing yourself.
827
00:42:21,005 --> 00:42:22,772
Oh, what? I wish I could
say the same for you.
828
00:42:22,806 --> 00:42:23,940
I was in new york.
829
00:42:23,974 --> 00:42:25,642
My caseload is not lim...
830
00:42:25,676 --> 00:42:27,911
I have clients I left
in new york, all right?
831
00:42:27,945 --> 00:42:29,279
Hmm.
832
00:42:29,313 --> 00:42:30,513
What is it you love this guy,
833
00:42:30,548 --> 00:42:32,248
all of a sudden you're
working yourself to death?
834
00:42:32,283 --> 00:42:33,349
He's our client!
835
00:42:33,384 --> 00:42:34,851
Oh, that's right. You told me.
836
00:42:34,885 --> 00:42:36,185
He covered you with a blanket.
837
00:42:36,220 --> 00:42:37,253
- Here you go.
- You're a cheap date.
838
00:42:37,288 --> 00:42:38,755
Oh, fuck you, bruce.
839
00:42:38,789 --> 00:42:40,490
You've got a case that
should have been thrown out.
840
00:42:40,524 --> 00:42:43,359
The cops and the da are
trying him on the o.J. Case.
841
00:42:43,394 --> 00:42:44,827
The prosecution has nothing.
842
00:42:44,862 --> 00:42:46,863
Except everyone's
conviction that he's guilty.
843
00:42:46,897 --> 00:42:48,331
We've got ballistic evidence.
844
00:42:48,365 --> 00:42:51,167
They trot up their
experts; We trot up ours.
845
00:42:51,201 --> 00:42:53,503
At the end of the day
the jury finds him guilty,
846
00:42:53,537 --> 00:42:57,040
and we have wasted their time...
Unless we indict the girl.
847
00:42:57,074 --> 00:42:58,675
Is he guilty?
848
00:42:58,709 --> 00:43:01,511
Not beyond a reasonable doubt, but
why don't you just show the yokels
849
00:43:01,545 --> 00:43:04,581
your two-toned shirts, your
cufflinks, fix your tie,
850
00:43:04,615 --> 00:43:07,050
and say the law protects
all equally?
851
00:43:07,084 --> 00:43:08,251
Is that untrue?
852
00:43:08,285 --> 00:43:09,719
It's true if you win.
853
00:43:09,753 --> 00:43:11,621
Not true for freaks.
854
00:43:11,655 --> 00:43:13,156
But for him, off he goes.
855
00:43:13,190 --> 00:43:15,058
Is that what this
is about... freaks?
856
00:43:15,092 --> 00:43:16,025
Very good, bruce.
857
00:43:16,060 --> 00:43:17,141
That's right. That's right.
858
00:43:17,161 --> 00:43:19,929
It's all about me.
It's about me.
859
00:43:19,964 --> 00:43:21,898
You know, the poor geek,
the bookworm...
860
00:43:21,932 --> 00:43:23,266
She gets judged
in the schoolyard,
861
00:43:23,300 --> 00:43:26,135
doesn't get a fair trial,
except our guy does,
862
00:43:26,170 --> 00:43:29,472
and the facts do not
support a conviction.
863
00:43:29,506 --> 00:43:31,140
I don't give a shit who he is.
864
00:43:31,175 --> 00:43:33,876
I don't give a shit
what he's done before.
865
00:43:36,347 --> 00:43:38,414
Ok.
866
00:43:38,449 --> 00:43:42,418
Marvin gaye... his father
shot him, right?
867
00:43:42,453 --> 00:43:47,523
Sam cooke... in bed with some
girl, husband comes home,
868
00:43:47,558 --> 00:43:48,625
bam, bam, bam!
869
00:43:48,659 --> 00:43:50,827
End of story.
870
00:43:50,861 --> 00:43:52,462
Who gives a shit?
871
00:43:52,496 --> 00:43:56,499
Lana clarkson shot herself.
I was there.
872
00:43:56,533 --> 00:43:59,936
Now they're treating me worse than
they treated mark david chapman.
873
00:43:59,970 --> 00:44:02,872
His name plate reads
"what a shame,"
874
00:44:02,906 --> 00:44:04,440
and he shot john lennon.
875
00:44:04,475 --> 00:44:06,309
And I, who happened
to be in the same room
876
00:44:06,343 --> 00:44:12,081
when this girl shot herself,
877
00:44:12,116 --> 00:44:15,351
I am a monster the likes
of which never saw
878
00:44:15,386 --> 00:44:17,687
the light of day.
879
00:44:17,721 --> 00:44:21,424
You... you want to explain
that to me?
880
00:44:21,458 --> 00:44:24,427
So, what is it, then?
881
00:44:24,461 --> 00:44:26,462
What are we talking about here?
882
00:44:26,497 --> 00:44:28,097
Hatred.
883
00:44:28,132 --> 00:44:30,033
What do they hate about me?
884
00:44:30,067 --> 00:44:34,137
I'm alive.
885
00:44:34,171 --> 00:44:36,606
You know the saying
"the good die young," right?
886
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,941
Why?
887
00:44:38,976 --> 00:44:43,046
Because the file is closed.
888
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:49,852
I understand. Have you said that...
This is the story.
889
00:44:49,887 --> 00:44:51,654
The girl exceeded
her shelf life.
890
00:44:51,689 --> 00:44:54,624
She's in l.a. she's down on her luck.
She is broke.
891
00:44:54,658 --> 00:44:55,625
Spector didn't help her?
892
00:44:55,659 --> 00:44:56,899
That's not his job.
893
00:44:56,927 --> 00:44:57,894
You're thinking of christ.
He's not christ.
894
00:44:57,928 --> 00:45:00,396
He's a guy. He
wanted affirmation.
895
00:45:00,431 --> 00:45:01,397
He wanted sex.
896
00:45:01,432 --> 00:45:03,332
68-year-old guy.
It's the same thing.
897
00:45:03,367 --> 00:45:04,367
What is he... pussy-crazed?
898
00:45:04,401 --> 00:45:06,602
Ok, she's working in some bar.
899
00:45:06,637 --> 00:45:08,738
A guy comes in.
She brushes him off.
900
00:45:08,772 --> 00:45:10,373
The boss says, "do you
know who that is?"
901
00:45:10,374 --> 00:45:12,208
So, what we have
is a car crash.
902
00:45:12,242 --> 00:45:13,209
She's lonely.
903
00:45:13,243 --> 00:45:14,610
What is she supposed to do?
904
00:45:14,645 --> 00:45:16,079
Hire the goodyear blimp?
905
00:45:16,113 --> 00:45:17,413
"Please help me. I'm lonely"?
906
00:45:17,448 --> 00:45:18,915
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
907
00:45:18,949 --> 00:45:20,717
What, are you arguing my case?
908
00:45:20,751 --> 00:45:22,351
Why would I kill that girl?
909
00:45:22,386 --> 00:45:23,519
You were drunk.
910
00:45:23,554 --> 00:45:25,388
I was drunk.
911
00:45:25,422 --> 00:45:27,990
I was drunk half my life.
912
00:45:28,025 --> 00:45:28,958
These women.
913
00:45:28,992 --> 00:45:30,293
Who are these women?
914
00:45:30,327 --> 00:45:34,497
These women come out and say
I pulled a gun on them.
915
00:45:34,531 --> 00:45:37,834
Where were they at the time
of the supposed offense?
916
00:45:37,868 --> 00:45:40,970
No. They came out
of the woodwork years later.
917
00:45:41,004 --> 00:45:42,004
They came out at the time.
918
00:45:42,039 --> 00:45:43,339
No. Bullshit.
919
00:45:43,373 --> 00:45:46,876
They... no. They didn't even
press their case. Come on!
920
00:45:46,910 --> 00:45:49,412
They came out when it was in
their interest to come out...
921
00:45:49,446 --> 00:45:52,648
They came out when there was
something in it for them.
922
00:45:52,683 --> 00:45:54,183
What was in it? Publicity.
923
00:45:54,218 --> 00:45:55,284
What did lana clarkson want?
924
00:45:55,319 --> 00:45:56,452
Publicity.
925
00:45:56,487 --> 00:45:57,620
What do they all want?
926
00:45:57,654 --> 00:46:00,556
People... people think
it's contagious...
927
00:46:00,591 --> 00:46:05,661
You can get it by hanging
around someone who's got it.
928
00:46:05,696 --> 00:46:09,932
I don't know this, and that idiot
whom I would have helped...
929
00:46:09,967 --> 00:46:11,300
Why not?
930
00:46:11,335 --> 00:46:15,471
Came in here and ruined my life
by sticking a gun
931
00:46:15,506 --> 00:46:18,007
in her mouth.
932
00:46:18,041 --> 00:46:20,276
For... for what?
933
00:46:20,310 --> 00:46:22,779
For what?
934
00:46:22,813 --> 00:46:24,080
For what is this retribution?
935
00:46:24,114 --> 00:46:27,083
For what am I being punished?
936
00:46:27,117 --> 00:46:30,553
For being the most
successful music producer
937
00:46:30,587 --> 00:46:32,522
in the history of the world.
938
00:46:32,556 --> 00:46:34,423
And if you think
that's bullshit,
939
00:46:34,458 --> 00:46:37,660
then you're not
as smart as I know you are.
940
00:46:40,631 --> 00:46:46,469
I am... I am so sorry
that that girl,
941
00:46:46,503 --> 00:46:50,406
that her life
was full of suffering.
942
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:54,544
I'm sorry she died.
943
00:46:54,578 --> 00:46:56,445
I didn't do it.
944
00:46:59,283 --> 00:47:02,451
The state says
the gun was in her mouth.
945
00:47:02,486 --> 00:47:04,754
If he were 10 feet away,
could he have done it?
946
00:47:04,788 --> 00:47:07,690
The prosecution says you didn't
go to her, you didn't touch her.
947
00:47:07,724 --> 00:47:09,725
Bruce.
948
00:47:14,498 --> 00:47:17,200
He throws up his hands
to avoid the paint.
949
00:47:17,234 --> 00:47:22,271
His coat has one spot of
paint on it, 10 feet away.
950
00:47:26,777 --> 00:47:30,012
This is an exact copy if
the coat mr. spector wore
951
00:47:30,047 --> 00:47:32,882
on the night of the
shooting, with a replica
952
00:47:32,916 --> 00:47:37,086
of the blood spatter...
4 spots and 2 pinpricks...
953
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:38,521
Of blood on the coat.
954
00:47:38,555 --> 00:47:41,424
You're free to examine it
if you wish.
955
00:47:49,366 --> 00:47:52,335
Here is what happens
to somebody standing
956
00:47:52,369 --> 00:47:56,439
within arm's length
of such an explosion.
957
00:47:56,473 --> 00:47:58,975
When the shot comes
from inside the mouth,
958
00:47:59,009 --> 00:48:01,043
the brain explodes.
959
00:48:01,078 --> 00:48:05,481
When the skull is intact,
as here, the brain matter
960
00:48:05,515 --> 00:48:12,088
the blood, is ejected through
the nose and the mouth.
961
00:48:12,122 --> 00:48:16,325
It seems to me mr. spector had
to have been standing a minimum
962
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:20,129
of 10 feet from the event for
him to have avoided being
963
00:48:20,163 --> 00:48:25,234
painted... painted with brain
matter and blood.
964
00:48:25,269 --> 00:48:26,602
What do you think?
965
00:48:27,704 --> 00:48:33,142
Ronnie spector interview.
966
00:48:33,176 --> 00:48:36,812
I believe... I believe
that phil at one time
967
00:48:36,847 --> 00:48:42,285
was very much like you or me,
and at the start... at the start
968
00:48:42,319 --> 00:48:47,056
of his career he was
talented and devoted
969
00:48:47,090 --> 00:48:49,926
a very serious musician.
970
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:55,131
But as the press began to write
about him as a great, an icon,
971
00:48:55,165 --> 00:49:01,904
or a genius, he began, yes,
to be affected by it
972
00:49:01,939 --> 00:49:06,575
and it affected him horribly,
like a drug,
973
00:49:06,610 --> 00:49:09,011
for it confused him.
974
00:49:09,046 --> 00:49:13,282
He was tormented... not by
the adulation, no, but by
975
00:49:13,317 --> 00:49:18,354
the question... is it true,
or is it deserved,
976
00:49:18,388 --> 00:49:23,092
and what would the answer
for that be?
977
00:49:23,126 --> 00:49:25,995
There is no answer.
978
00:49:26,029 --> 00:49:27,163
Thank you.
979
00:49:27,197 --> 00:49:29,098
Thank you very much,
mrs. spector.
980
00:49:29,132 --> 00:49:31,968
Uh, this interview was recorded
at everclear studios...
981
00:49:32,002 --> 00:49:35,237
Irene, can you get me the 911
tape... you know, the chauffer?
982
00:49:35,272 --> 00:49:36,639
Mm-hmm.
983
00:49:36,673 --> 00:49:39,742
Put it in the room for
me, let me listen to it?
984
00:49:41,645 --> 00:49:42,945
Thanks.
985
00:49:42,980 --> 00:49:43,946
What are you reporting?
986
00:49:43,981 --> 00:49:45,381
Mm-hmm.
987
00:49:45,415 --> 00:49:48,351
My name is adriano,
and I'm phil spector's driver.
988
00:49:48,385 --> 00:49:51,053
I think my boss
just killed somebody.
989
00:49:51,088 --> 00:49:52,655
You think your
boss killed somebody?
990
00:49:52,689 --> 00:49:53,723
Yes.
991
00:49:53,757 --> 00:49:54,657
Why do you think
he killed somebody?
992
00:49:54,691 --> 00:49:59,161
Because he... What's the speech
pathologist, the brazilian,
993
00:49:59,196 --> 00:50:00,162
you know, the interpreter?
994
00:50:00,197 --> 00:50:03,165
Uh... Have you got his number?
Yeah.
995
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:05,501
Here, let me show you.
996
00:50:05,535 --> 00:50:07,570
It's this guy, this guy here.
997
00:50:07,604 --> 00:50:09,505
Would you get me
a meeting with him?
998
00:50:09,539 --> 00:50:11,907
Sure.
999
00:50:11,942 --> 00:50:13,175
Oh, yeah, sure.
Just give me a second.
1000
00:50:13,210 --> 00:50:14,143
Of course.
1001
00:50:14,177 --> 00:50:16,545
Just got it... 5 pm.
1002
00:50:16,580 --> 00:50:17,580
It was nice meeting you.
1003
00:50:17,614 --> 00:50:23,252
You, too. Yes.
1004
00:50:29,793 --> 00:50:31,060
What did they have you
doing in there?
1005
00:50:31,094 --> 00:50:32,061
You're with the defense team?
1006
00:50:32,095 --> 00:50:33,329
I work in the office.
1007
00:50:33,363 --> 00:50:34,830
We were just watching
these cartoons
1008
00:50:34,865 --> 00:50:36,665
about what the blood
would do and so on.
1009
00:50:36,700 --> 00:50:37,700
You mean like movies?
1010
00:50:37,734 --> 00:50:38,734
Yeah.
1011
00:50:38,735 --> 00:50:39,702
And what do you think?
1012
00:50:39,736 --> 00:50:40,703
You could show me "dumbo."
1013
00:50:40,737 --> 00:50:41,904
Hey, what does that prove?
1014
00:50:41,938 --> 00:50:44,507
Anyone can make cartoons.
1015
00:50:45,442 --> 00:50:48,411
Thursday, may 7, 2009.
1016
00:50:48,445 --> 00:50:53,215
Retired lapd officer
joseph smith.
1017
00:50:57,154 --> 00:50:59,021
Colt detective special.
1018
00:50:59,056 --> 00:51:02,091
In attendance, retired federal
officer michael brown
1019
00:51:02,125 --> 00:51:04,627
with ms. linda kenney baden.
1020
00:51:04,661 --> 00:51:05,795
One round.
1021
00:51:05,829 --> 00:51:07,096
38 plus "p."
1022
00:51:07,130 --> 00:51:11,033
Hollow point, 110 grain.
1023
00:51:11,068 --> 00:51:12,101
Ok.
1024
00:51:12,135 --> 00:51:14,170
Clear the range.
1025
00:51:58,148 --> 00:52:01,984
Then they say, dr. spitz,
your various credentials...
1026
00:52:02,018 --> 00:52:03,452
We should add my publication.
1027
00:52:03,487 --> 00:52:04,920
Oh, yeah. We will add
your publication.
1028
00:52:04,955 --> 00:52:07,957
35 years in forensics.
1029
00:52:07,991 --> 00:52:09,258
Exactly.
1030
00:52:09,292 --> 00:52:11,260
Now, in your career
you have investigated...
1031
00:52:11,294 --> 00:52:14,597
Over 10,000 instances
of gunshot wounds.
1032
00:52:14,631 --> 00:52:16,031
Fatal.
1033
00:52:16,066 --> 00:52:17,600
Yes, gunshot wounds
to the head.
1034
00:52:17,634 --> 00:52:21,237
Good. And then they
show you the diagram,
1035
00:52:21,271 --> 00:52:22,705
and they say, have you ever...
1036
00:52:22,739 --> 00:52:25,941
In 35 years, that wound,
the angle of that wound
1037
00:52:25,976 --> 00:52:27,510
is absolutely
inconsistent with any
1038
00:52:27,544 --> 00:52:29,178
but a self-inflicted wound.
1039
00:52:29,212 --> 00:52:30,246
I'd put it simpler.
1040
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:31,714
I don't understand.
1041
00:52:31,748 --> 00:52:35,484
I would say, "I've only ever seen
that as a self-inflicted wound."
1042
00:52:35,519 --> 00:52:36,485
That's right.
1043
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:38,320
In 95%, that is a self-inflic...
1044
00:52:38,355 --> 00:52:40,356
No. dr. spitz, you
cannot say 95%.
1045
00:52:40,423 --> 00:52:41,557
I beg your pardon.
1046
00:52:41,591 --> 00:52:42,691
I was just using that as
a figure of speech. 90...
1047
00:52:42,726 --> 00:52:44,026
Shh, shh.
1048
00:52:44,060 --> 00:52:48,030
Good, but you know, to the
prosecution, you say 95%,
1049
00:52:48,064 --> 00:52:51,200
on cross-examination you've just
admitted that there's a 5% chance
1050
00:52:51,234 --> 00:52:52,968
that it is not
a self-inflicted wound.
1051
00:52:53,003 --> 00:52:55,704
Is there a 5% chance that
somebody else shot her?
1052
00:52:55,739 --> 00:52:56,705
There is no chance.
1053
00:52:56,740 --> 00:52:58,474
Then do not say 95%.
1054
00:52:58,508 --> 00:53:00,576
That was just
a figure of speech.
1055
00:53:00,610 --> 00:53:03,712
Sure, dr. spitz, but you've
seen 10,000 case, right?
1056
00:53:03,747 --> 00:53:06,348
5% of which, the prosecution
will point out,
1057
00:53:06,383 --> 00:53:11,554
is 500 cases in which that is
not a self-inflicted wound.
1058
00:53:11,588 --> 00:53:13,989
It is a self-inflicted wound.
1059
00:53:14,024 --> 00:53:16,659
The we require you
to so testify.
1060
00:53:16,693 --> 00:53:20,129
Now, dr. spitz, we're gonna take
a look at the bullet itself.
1061
00:53:20,163 --> 00:53:21,463
Yes.
1062
00:53:29,472 --> 00:53:32,041
That's good
if they let you use it.
1063
00:53:32,075 --> 00:53:33,175
What?
1064
00:53:33,210 --> 00:53:34,176
Oh, the tape?
1065
00:53:34,211 --> 00:53:35,544
Mm-hmm.
1066
00:53:35,579 --> 00:53:37,613
No, no. I'm not planning
on using the tape.
1067
00:53:37,647 --> 00:53:40,950
No. Listen, it is impossible
that philip took that shot.
1068
00:53:40,984 --> 00:53:43,085
If he had, his coat, his
hair, his everything
1069
00:53:43,119 --> 00:53:44,954
would have been
covered in blood.
1070
00:53:44,988 --> 00:53:47,856
We've got to break that thought
into the jury's mind...
1071
00:53:47,891 --> 00:53:49,425
He could not have done it.
1072
00:53:49,459 --> 00:53:50,759
So you don't show them
the tape?
1073
00:53:50,794 --> 00:53:53,629
No. No. I'm gonna build it.
1074
00:53:53,663 --> 00:53:56,398
Uh-huh.
1075
00:53:56,433 --> 00:53:59,435
I'm gonna build a bulletproof
plexiglas chamber
1076
00:53:59,469 --> 00:54:02,271
and put it in the courtroom.
1077
00:54:02,305 --> 00:54:05,574
I'm gonna put the wound
dummy in the chair
1078
00:54:05,609 --> 00:54:08,711
and a ballistics tech in a lab coat
and have him pull the trigger.
1079
00:54:08,745 --> 00:54:12,481
When they see the booth and the
coat, everything covered in blood,
1080
00:54:12,515 --> 00:54:15,517
the jury sees that, we just
broke their thought processes.
1081
00:54:15,552 --> 00:54:16,685
We won the case.
1082
00:54:16,720 --> 00:54:18,320
The judge will never
allow that.
1083
00:54:18,355 --> 00:54:20,489
"Culpepper v. Volkswagen."
1084
00:54:20,523 --> 00:54:22,091
I've got a hearing
tomorrow at noon.
1085
00:54:22,125 --> 00:54:23,125
She shot herself.
1086
00:54:23,159 --> 00:54:24,360
You bet she did.
1087
00:54:24,394 --> 00:54:25,828
Why?
1088
00:54:25,862 --> 00:54:29,298
Not our problem anymore.
1089
00:54:29,332 --> 00:54:31,200
It's been decided
it's inadmissible.
1090
00:54:31,234 --> 00:54:32,735
What does that mean?
1091
00:54:32,769 --> 00:54:35,004
It means you can't
legally base a demonstration
1092
00:54:35,038 --> 00:54:36,438
on a theory.
1093
00:54:36,473 --> 00:54:38,874
You know what? Why don't they
get a carpenter in there?
1094
00:54:38,908 --> 00:54:40,843
Get a carpenter in there,
build me a coffin,
1095
00:54:40,877 --> 00:54:42,177
have the judge nail me in.
1096
00:54:42,212 --> 00:54:43,178
Philip.
1097
00:54:43,213 --> 00:54:44,179
Get it over with.
1098
00:54:44,214 --> 00:54:46,982
Philip, the california law...
They see that demonstration,
1099
00:54:47,017 --> 00:54:48,350
I walk out of there free.
1100
00:54:48,385 --> 00:54:51,287
It's been decided the
judge will... and can legally
1101
00:54:51,321 --> 00:54:52,921
disallow it.
1102
00:54:52,956 --> 00:54:55,024
Therefore, to make a request
doomed to failure is...
1103
00:54:55,058 --> 00:54:56,692
Why would I kill that girl?
1104
00:54:56,726 --> 00:54:58,427
Why?
1105
00:54:58,461 --> 00:55:02,698
Because she wouldn't what?
1106
00:55:02,732 --> 00:55:03,932
She wouldn't what?
1107
00:55:03,933 --> 00:55:05,534
She would have done
anything I asked.
1108
00:55:05,568 --> 00:55:07,770
That's why she came here.
1109
00:55:07,804 --> 00:55:09,838
No. So forget why.
1110
00:55:09,873 --> 00:55:11,073
How?
1111
00:55:11,107 --> 00:55:12,308
What did I do? What did I say?
1112
00:55:12,342 --> 00:55:13,509
"Here.
1113
00:55:13,543 --> 00:55:16,779
"You hold the gun and you
put it in your mouth.
1114
00:55:16,813 --> 00:55:18,614
I'll pull the trigger."
1115
00:55:18,648 --> 00:55:19,648
Why?
1116
00:55:19,683 --> 00:55:22,251
Because I want to prove
my power.
1117
00:55:22,285 --> 00:55:25,454
My power was she got in
the car.
1118
00:55:25,488 --> 00:55:27,022
That was my power.
1119
00:55:27,057 --> 00:55:32,828
Some wretched, stunted
jewish kid, a poor kid,
1120
00:55:32,862 --> 00:55:35,698
who could have, over the years,
any fucking woman I wanted...
1121
00:55:35,732 --> 00:55:38,133
Oh, I'm gonna throw my
life away for her.
1122
00:55:38,168 --> 00:55:39,168
Why not?
1123
00:55:39,202 --> 00:55:40,936
She was a cocktail waitress.
1124
00:55:42,772 --> 00:55:45,741
In the old days, the
cops, they showed up,
1125
00:55:45,775 --> 00:55:48,210
she shot herself, they
throw her in jail
1126
00:55:48,244 --> 00:55:51,513
for fucking up my
evening, dead as she was.
1127
00:55:51,548 --> 00:55:52,715
I want you to put me
on the stand.
1128
00:55:52,749 --> 00:55:54,516
One-way ticket to the gallows.
1129
00:55:54,551 --> 00:55:58,287
I want to tell what happened.
1130
00:55:58,321 --> 00:55:59,788
What happened?
1131
00:55:59,823 --> 00:56:02,057
You got 12 seconds?
1132
00:56:04,928 --> 00:56:09,832
I was drunk. She was screwed
up out of her mind.
1133
00:56:09,866 --> 00:56:11,800
I took her home.
1134
00:56:11,835 --> 00:56:14,269
She asked me... she asked me
1135
00:56:14,304 --> 00:56:17,439
did I have any guns
around the house?
1136
00:56:17,474 --> 00:56:23,445
I said, "why?" She said,
"I find it exciting."
1137
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:25,647
Many women do.
1138
00:56:25,682 --> 00:56:28,851
So I showed her the guns,
1139
00:56:28,885 --> 00:56:31,120
I went in the other
room, I came back.
1140
00:56:31,154 --> 00:56:34,056
She's got a gun in her
hand, and she's smiling
1141
00:56:34,090 --> 00:56:38,660
provocatively, right?
1142
00:56:38,695 --> 00:56:42,564
She takes the stupid gun,
puts it in her mouth.
1143
00:56:42,599 --> 00:56:44,767
I scream, "no!"
1144
00:56:47,137 --> 00:56:49,104
The gun goes off.
1145
00:57:00,083 --> 00:57:01,817
It's interesting.
1146
00:57:01,851 --> 00:57:04,653
What?
1147
00:57:04,687 --> 00:57:07,890
The various looks, the wigs.
1148
00:57:07,924 --> 00:57:11,927
A lot of people
think they're wigs.
1149
00:57:11,961 --> 00:57:13,841
That's called prejudice.
1150
00:57:39,756 --> 00:57:42,157
Brindon, where are they?
1151
00:57:42,192 --> 00:57:43,192
They have gone.
1152
00:57:43,226 --> 00:57:44,760
We must tell torvald.
1153
00:57:44,794 --> 00:57:45,894
He was with them.
1154
00:57:45,929 --> 00:57:47,329
No.
1155
00:57:47,363 --> 00:57:49,264
Shall I alert princess isa?
1156
00:57:49,299 --> 00:57:52,134
No. Better to take
a dagger through the heart,
1157
00:57:52,168 --> 00:57:53,669
for the news would kill her.
1158
00:57:53,703 --> 00:57:57,873
Brindon... 95%. Unbelievable.
1159
00:58:00,610 --> 00:58:02,244
My boss came out
of the house and said,
1160
00:58:02,278 --> 00:58:04,046
"I think I just
killed somebody."
1161
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:05,848
"I think I should call
somebody"?
1162
00:58:05,882 --> 00:58:07,816
You want to know the case?
1163
00:58:07,851 --> 00:58:10,919
Our guy used to be a big shot.
Now he's nobody.
1164
00:58:10,954 --> 00:58:11,987
The girl... she's living
the dream.
1165
00:58:12,021 --> 00:58:14,957
Should have died 10 years ago
when she could marry money.
1166
00:58:14,991 --> 00:58:17,659
Too late now... she's
every woman's nightmare.
1167
00:58:17,694 --> 00:58:19,928
She goes home with a fella.
She ends up dead.
1168
00:58:19,963 --> 00:58:21,330
Let your guy go? Why?
1169
00:58:21,364 --> 00:58:22,498
What was he doing
there with her?
1170
00:58:22,532 --> 00:58:24,466
That's not what he's
being tried for.
1171
00:58:24,501 --> 00:58:26,301
Really?
1172
00:58:33,910 --> 00:58:35,143
What time does bruce get in?
1173
00:58:35,178 --> 00:58:36,111
1:05.
1174
00:58:36,145 --> 00:58:39,147
What if it were an accident?
1175
00:58:42,819 --> 00:58:45,120
Ah.
1176
00:58:45,154 --> 00:58:46,154
Thank you for coming today.
1177
00:58:46,189 --> 00:58:47,189
Thank you.
1178
00:58:47,223 --> 00:58:48,624
How are you?
I'm well, thank you.
1179
00:58:48,658 --> 00:58:49,758
Good.
1180
00:58:49,792 --> 00:58:50,859
My name is michael brown.
1181
00:58:50,894 --> 00:58:53,028
Jenny o'brien.
1182
00:58:53,062 --> 00:58:54,863
I'm a retired federal officer.
1183
00:58:54,898 --> 00:58:57,199
I've spent most of my government
service occupied with
1184
00:58:57,233 --> 00:59:02,137
ballistics, which is the study
of projectiles and firearms.
1185
00:59:02,171 --> 00:59:08,076
This is a model
of a firearm, a revolver.
1186
00:59:08,111 --> 00:59:12,347
As you see, it cannot
fire anything.
1187
00:59:12,382 --> 00:59:14,883
There is nothing to fire.
1188
00:59:14,918 --> 00:59:17,953
It's solid plastic.
That's all it is.
1189
00:59:17,987 --> 00:59:21,957
This model... I won't call it a
toy, because it's not a toy...
1190
00:59:21,991 --> 00:59:23,892
Is designed for purposes
of demonstration.
1191
00:59:23,927 --> 00:59:25,394
Ok?
1192
00:59:25,428 --> 00:59:26,495
Mmm.
1193
00:59:26,529 --> 00:59:31,266
Basically... it's
a garage door opener.
1194
00:59:31,301 --> 00:59:34,301
Now, here is one thing
this model can do.
1195
00:59:34,304 --> 00:59:38,840
If the trigger is depressed,
it sends a signal...
1196
00:59:40,009 --> 00:59:42,544
The light and the alarm go off.
1197
00:59:45,114 --> 00:59:47,082
You all received your
checks for coming in today?
1198
00:59:47,116 --> 00:59:48,250
Yes.
1199
00:59:48,284 --> 00:59:49,818
Fine.
1200
00:59:49,852 --> 00:59:52,688
In addition to your honorarium,
in addition to that,
1201
00:59:52,722 --> 00:59:56,425
if you can insert the model in your
mouth without pulling the trigger,
1202
00:59:56,459 --> 00:59:58,760
you'll receive $300.
1203
00:59:58,795 --> 01:00:00,362
You understand?
1204
01:00:00,396 --> 01:00:03,599
Yeah.
1205
01:00:03,633 --> 01:00:05,067
Wrapped in plastic.
1206
01:00:05,101 --> 01:00:07,169
Completely sterile.
1207
01:00:07,203 --> 01:00:10,038
Please remove it
from the plastic.
1208
01:00:15,411 --> 01:00:19,014
Now without pulling
the trigger,
1209
01:00:19,048 --> 01:00:21,750
insert the model in your mouth.
1210
01:00:23,519 --> 01:00:24,886
Close it.
1211
01:00:24,921 --> 01:00:27,489
For god's sakes, what the
fuck are you doing?!
1212
01:00:27,523 --> 01:00:29,364
Take it out!
Take it out of your mouth!
1213
01:00:36,566 --> 01:00:40,268
That's our case.
1214
01:00:40,303 --> 01:00:41,737
And what does forensics say?
1215
01:00:41,771 --> 01:00:44,740
Forensics says the gun
was inside her mouth,
1216
01:00:44,774 --> 01:00:47,175
handle and trigger guard
down, which means that
1217
01:00:47,210 --> 01:00:48,510
the front sight was up.
1218
01:00:48,544 --> 01:00:52,147
Now, somebody yells, "take
that gun out of your mouth."
1219
01:00:52,181 --> 01:00:54,082
She pulls it out fast.
1220
01:00:54,117 --> 01:00:57,085
The front sight gets caught
on her upper teeth,
1221
01:00:57,120 --> 01:00:59,921
hand keeps pulling, depresses
the trigger, the gun goes off.
1222
01:00:59,956 --> 01:01:00,989
It's not in evidence.
1223
01:01:01,024 --> 01:01:02,157
I'll put it in the closing.
1224
01:01:02,191 --> 01:01:03,492
It's too late.
I'll tell you why.
1225
01:01:03,526 --> 01:01:05,446
Everybody at that point
assumes that he's guilty.
1226
01:01:05,461 --> 01:01:07,596
Linda, all of this,
the rubber gun?
1227
01:01:07,630 --> 01:01:09,564
I won't take the rubber
gun to court.
1228
01:01:09,599 --> 01:01:11,099
Linda...
1229
01:01:11,134 --> 01:01:12,968
It's so clear. The judge
didn't allow clarkson's diary.
1230
01:01:13,002 --> 01:01:16,171
He won't allow... Linda,
the point is, all right,
1231
01:01:16,205 --> 01:01:18,440
they think he's a monster.
1232
01:01:18,474 --> 01:01:19,874
You take the skull in,
they're sure.
1233
01:01:19,876 --> 01:01:21,743
Monster. Lives in a
cave. Look at the skull.
1234
01:01:21,778 --> 01:01:23,845
They turn away from your
client and his evidence.
1235
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:25,047
I make them look at it.
1236
01:01:25,081 --> 01:01:26,581
You're thrashing, linda.
1237
01:01:26,616 --> 01:01:28,417
I'm telling you that if she put
the gun in her own mouth...
1238
01:01:28,451 --> 01:01:29,685
And she did...
1239
01:01:29,719 --> 01:01:31,887
And I am telling you, the
only way you can introduce
1240
01:01:31,921 --> 01:01:36,324
all this fucking ben-hur is in
support of direct testimony.
1241
01:01:36,359 --> 01:01:38,694
Remember procedure, which testimony
only comes and could come
1242
01:01:38,728 --> 01:01:42,397
on direct from mr. spector.
1243
01:01:42,432 --> 01:01:43,865
Are you gonna put him
on the stand,
1244
01:01:43,900 --> 01:01:46,501
or should I just fucking
go jump under a train.
1245
01:01:46,536 --> 01:01:48,136
What?
1246
01:01:53,743 --> 01:01:55,377
Take care of yourself.
1247
01:02:00,183 --> 01:02:03,285
Thank you, ben.
1248
01:02:03,319 --> 01:02:05,754
People say diet is bullshit.
1249
01:02:05,788 --> 01:02:06,955
Diet is not bullshit.
1250
01:02:06,989 --> 01:02:09,224
I want to talk to you
about tomorrow.
1251
01:02:09,258 --> 01:02:10,325
What's this?
1252
01:02:10,359 --> 01:02:12,461
That's a note from bruce.
1253
01:02:12,495 --> 01:02:14,129
A note?
1254
01:02:18,801 --> 01:02:21,937
"My personal numbers"
in case of what?
1255
01:02:21,971 --> 01:02:25,207
In the case you need him.
1256
01:02:25,241 --> 01:02:26,541
These numbers are in new york.
1257
01:02:26,576 --> 01:02:27,697
Yeah. Well, bruce went back.
1258
01:02:27,710 --> 01:02:28,677
Look here.
1259
01:02:28,711 --> 01:02:31,713
This is the statement...
Bruce went back to new york?
1260
01:02:31,748 --> 01:02:33,448
Yeah, sure. You knew
he was going back.
1261
01:02:33,483 --> 01:02:34,750
To do his television show.
1262
01:02:34,784 --> 01:02:37,152
No. He didn't go back
to do his television show.
1263
01:02:37,186 --> 01:02:40,522
He left me to do... Philip.
1264
01:02:40,556 --> 01:02:42,758
Philip, you told him
you didn't wish him to...
1265
01:02:42,792 --> 01:02:44,392
Do you recall the closing?
1266
01:02:44,427 --> 01:02:47,129
You agreed, the judge agreed
that bruce could retire
1267
01:02:47,163 --> 01:02:48,163
before the closing.
1268
01:02:48,197 --> 01:02:49,664
Retire from the case?
1269
01:02:49,699 --> 01:02:50,932
Yes. Well, you agreed.
1270
01:02:50,967 --> 01:02:52,334
What, I agreed? What
do you mean, I agreed?
1271
01:02:52,368 --> 01:02:56,171
I agreed to what?
I agreed to what?
1272
01:02:56,205 --> 01:02:57,339
It's relevant to this?
1273
01:02:57,373 --> 01:02:59,107
No, no, no, no.
1274
01:02:59,142 --> 01:03:00,475
No. This is unethical.
1275
01:03:00,510 --> 01:03:03,011
He withdrew in open court, philip.
You were there.
1276
01:03:03,045 --> 01:03:04,713
I didn't understand.
1277
01:03:04,747 --> 01:03:05,747
Well, you discussed this.
1278
01:03:05,782 --> 01:03:10,318
When I paid him $1 million
to defend my life?
1279
01:03:10,353 --> 01:03:13,121
You and the judge
and bruce cutler, remember?
1280
01:03:13,156 --> 01:03:14,356
You all talked about this.
1281
01:03:14,390 --> 01:03:17,359
I thought he was going
on a trip. Come on!
1282
01:03:17,393 --> 01:03:19,594
"These are my
new york numbers"?
1283
01:03:19,629 --> 01:03:20,695
He has other clients.
1284
01:03:20,730 --> 01:03:21,897
He left me.
1285
01:03:21,931 --> 01:03:24,132
He left me to do
his television show.
1286
01:03:24,167 --> 01:03:25,400
Don't break my heart.
1287
01:03:25,434 --> 01:03:30,472
And I paid him $1 million,
and I foolishly expected
1288
01:03:30,506 --> 01:03:32,974
from him, loyalty.
1289
01:03:33,009 --> 01:03:34,476
For... for what?
1290
01:03:34,510 --> 01:03:35,477
For life?
1291
01:03:35,511 --> 01:03:36,778
No.
1292
01:03:36,813 --> 01:03:40,682
For the duration
of a trial, in which
1293
01:03:40,716 --> 01:03:43,685
he pleaded with me
to give him the job.
1294
01:03:43,719 --> 01:03:44,686
Why did he want the job?
1295
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:45,821
Why?
1296
01:03:45,855 --> 01:03:47,155
Because he liked me?
1297
01:03:47,190 --> 01:03:48,824
He despised me.
1298
01:03:48,858 --> 01:03:54,362
He wanted the job because I
needed him, because I was weak.
1299
01:03:54,397 --> 01:03:56,064
He was strong.
1300
01:03:56,098 --> 01:03:58,900
He wanted my money.
1301
01:03:58,935 --> 01:04:00,101
I don't understand that?
1302
01:04:00,136 --> 01:04:03,138
Philip, you agreed
in front of a judge...
1303
01:04:03,172 --> 01:04:04,706
I thought he was
going shopping.
1304
01:04:04,740 --> 01:04:05,674
Please.
1305
01:04:05,708 --> 01:04:07,108
Who was there to
tell me different?
1306
01:04:07,143 --> 01:04:09,244
Who? Who could have?
I'm ignorant.
1307
01:04:09,278 --> 01:04:10,745
What do I know
about these things?
1308
01:04:10,780 --> 01:04:14,015
Who could have sat me down and
told me and explained it to me?
1309
01:04:14,050 --> 01:04:15,016
Who?
1310
01:04:15,051 --> 01:04:16,484
My lawyer.
1311
01:04:16,519 --> 01:04:17,519
That's who.
1312
01:04:17,553 --> 01:04:18,520
Who's gone.
1313
01:04:18,554 --> 01:04:20,589
You let him go.
1314
01:04:29,198 --> 01:04:31,199
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry you're upset.
1315
01:04:31,234 --> 01:04:34,536
I know you are.
1316
01:04:34,570 --> 01:04:35,670
So.
1317
01:04:35,705 --> 01:04:39,274
What do we do now?
1318
01:04:39,308 --> 01:04:44,112
If you testify, we get to
do the demonstrations.
1319
01:04:44,146 --> 01:04:45,306
I don't get that.
1320
01:04:45,314 --> 01:04:48,483
That means I've got
to put you on the stand.
1321
01:04:48,517 --> 01:04:49,551
All right.
1322
01:04:49,585 --> 01:04:51,653
You do understand
what that means?
1323
01:04:51,687 --> 01:04:54,122
I get to tell my story.
1324
01:04:54,156 --> 01:04:57,158
It means they get to
tear you apart.
1325
01:04:57,193 --> 01:05:01,763
Well, you defend me.
1326
01:05:05,201 --> 01:05:08,737
You ever know anyone
who was disfigured?
1327
01:05:08,771 --> 01:05:13,275
I mean, you know, some
serious hard to look at?
1328
01:05:13,309 --> 01:05:16,244
After a time... after a time,
you come not to notice.
1329
01:05:28,224 --> 01:05:30,258
Can you turn on the lights?
1330
01:05:35,531 --> 01:05:36,498
All right.
1331
01:05:36,532 --> 01:05:38,199
It's impressive.
1332
01:05:38,234 --> 01:05:40,201
All right. All right.
1333
01:05:40,236 --> 01:05:42,904
Ok.
1334
01:05:42,939 --> 01:05:46,141
The defense calls
philip spector.
1335
01:05:51,547 --> 01:05:53,581
Place your left
hand on the bible.
1336
01:05:53,616 --> 01:05:55,350
Raise your right hand.
1337
01:05:55,384 --> 01:05:57,819
Do you solemnly swear that the
testimony you're about to give
1338
01:05:57,853 --> 01:06:00,622
in the matter now
before this court is
1339
01:06:00,656 --> 01:06:02,390
the truth, the whole truth,
and nothing but the truth?
1340
01:06:02,425 --> 01:06:03,925
I do.
1341
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:05,060
State your name.
1342
01:06:05,094 --> 01:06:07,429
Philip spector.
1343
01:06:07,463 --> 01:06:09,364
Please be seated.
1344
01:06:11,067 --> 01:06:13,702
Now, mr. spector, I would
like you to describe,
1345
01:06:13,736 --> 01:06:16,237
in as much detail as
you can recall,
1346
01:06:16,272 --> 01:06:19,307
the events of the night
of february 2, 2003.
1347
01:06:19,342 --> 01:06:24,946
Uh, I had a date with a girl.
1348
01:06:24,981 --> 01:06:26,281
Objection!
1349
01:06:26,315 --> 01:06:27,716
Could the witness
be more specific?
1350
01:06:27,750 --> 01:06:29,384
Could he state the name
of the girl, please?
1351
01:06:29,418 --> 01:06:31,720
Yes. State the name
of the girl, please.
1352
01:06:31,754 --> 01:06:35,056
Her name was lana clarkson.
1353
01:06:35,091 --> 01:06:36,992
Would you speak up, please?
1354
01:06:41,597 --> 01:06:45,200
Lana clarkson.
1355
01:06:45,234 --> 01:06:49,738
I had a date with a girl
named lana clarkson.
1356
01:06:49,772 --> 01:06:51,106
Now.
1357
01:06:51,140 --> 01:06:54,776
mr. spector, did you kill
lana clarkson?
1358
01:06:54,810 --> 01:06:56,745
No.
1359
01:06:56,779 --> 01:06:59,080
Did you put
a revolver in her mouth?
1360
01:06:59,115 --> 01:07:00,048
No.
1361
01:07:00,082 --> 01:07:01,983
Did you suggest that she do so?
1362
01:07:02,018 --> 01:07:03,018
No.
1363
01:07:03,052 --> 01:07:04,786
Did you threaten her? No.
1364
01:07:04,820 --> 01:07:06,621
Did you keep her
in your house by force?
1365
01:07:06,655 --> 01:07:09,691
No. She wanted to stay...
Objection.
1366
01:07:09,725 --> 01:07:13,528
Sustained.
1367
01:07:13,562 --> 01:07:15,930
Did you keep her in your house by force?
Yes or no.
1368
01:07:15,965 --> 01:07:17,632
No.
1369
01:07:17,666 --> 01:07:21,469
All right.
1370
01:07:25,775 --> 01:07:27,142
All right. Good.
1371
01:07:27,176 --> 01:07:30,311
mr. spector, your attitude is...
Objection, your honor.
1372
01:07:30,346 --> 01:07:31,513
Is this the prosecution's
closing?
1373
01:07:31,547 --> 01:07:33,915
As if not... Sustained.
1374
01:07:33,949 --> 01:07:35,550
All right. As we continue,
and I thank the court
1375
01:07:35,584 --> 01:07:37,652
for its patience, and I would ask
mr. spector if he would be good enough
1376
01:07:37,686 --> 01:07:39,421
to discard the tactic
of "I don't remember,"
1377
01:07:39,455 --> 01:07:41,589
as the jury, I again assure you...
Objection, your honor.
1378
01:07:41,624 --> 01:07:43,158
Objection sustained.
1379
01:07:43,192 --> 01:07:45,794
mr. spector, would you
please keep your voice up?
1380
01:07:45,828 --> 01:07:47,629
It's been a long
day, your honor.
1381
01:07:47,663 --> 01:07:50,031
I suggest we
reconvene tomorrow.
1382
01:07:50,066 --> 01:07:52,233
Your honor, I object to the
defense's tactic of interruption,
1383
01:07:52,268 --> 01:07:54,202
and I ask the court's
indulgence that I may
1384
01:07:54,236 --> 01:07:55,737
close out this line
of questioning.
1385
01:07:55,771 --> 01:07:57,038
Yes. Your request is granted.
You may continue.
1386
01:07:57,073 --> 01:07:58,173
Thank you, your honor.
1387
01:07:58,207 --> 01:07:59,374
Ok.
1388
01:07:59,408 --> 01:08:01,509
mr. spector,
you have testified that.
1389
01:08:01,544 --> 01:08:04,079
"I came back into the room."
1390
01:08:04,113 --> 01:08:05,947
"She had the gun in her mouth."
1391
01:08:05,981 --> 01:08:08,416
I screamed no!
1392
01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:12,120
Have you asked me a question?
1393
01:08:12,154 --> 01:08:13,088
I'm about to.
1394
01:08:13,122 --> 01:08:14,089
Ok.
1395
01:08:14,123 --> 01:08:15,123
Where did the gun come from?
1396
01:08:15,157 --> 01:08:16,091
Objection. We've testified.
1397
01:08:16,125 --> 01:08:17,459
Where did the gun come
from, mr. spector?
1398
01:08:17,493 --> 01:08:19,427
You've testified
that you had 9...
1399
01:08:19,462 --> 01:08:21,896
9 firearms on your property
to which you have admitted.
1400
01:08:21,931 --> 01:08:23,331
Objection.
1401
01:08:23,365 --> 01:08:24,299
Was it one of these?
1402
01:08:24,333 --> 01:08:25,767
Objection. Overruled.
1403
01:08:25,801 --> 01:08:28,203
Or is this, say, an outlier
which you have forgot?
1404
01:08:28,237 --> 01:08:30,939
As you forgot the incident
with debra robertie
1405
01:08:30,973 --> 01:08:32,640
in which you, in joking,
pulled a gun on her?
1406
01:08:32,675 --> 01:08:33,715
All right, no.
1407
01:08:33,742 --> 01:08:35,743
Wait, wait, wait.
1408
01:08:35,778 --> 01:08:37,579
I have a sheaf of affidavits.
1409
01:08:37,613 --> 01:08:39,013
One moment, please.
1410
01:08:39,048 --> 01:08:41,249
Of your behavior
around women, with guns.
1411
01:08:41,283 --> 01:08:43,585
Of coercion, assault...
Objection.
1412
01:08:43,619 --> 01:08:45,553
Of coercion and battery,
unlawful imprisonment.
1413
01:08:45,588 --> 01:08:49,157
Your honor, the evidence in this court...
Incarcerated?
1414
01:08:49,191 --> 01:08:50,158
Your honor, mr. spector
has never been accused...
1415
01:08:50,192 --> 01:08:51,526
Convicted.
1416
01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:52,961
And this is
the essence of this case.
1417
01:08:52,995 --> 01:08:55,597
There is no legally admissible
evidence, which is to say
1418
01:08:55,631 --> 01:08:57,832
there is no evidence... All
right, all right, all right.
1419
01:08:57,867 --> 01:09:00,602
And I would move for a direct...
1420
01:09:00,636 --> 01:09:04,038
I have a tape... I have a tape
of your wife ronnie spector,
1421
01:09:04,073 --> 01:09:06,808
in which she testifies
to your repeated cruelties
1422
01:09:06,842 --> 01:09:09,410
and assaults.
1423
01:09:09,445 --> 01:09:11,846
Physical, verbal, and sexual.
1424
01:09:11,881 --> 01:09:13,314
No, no, no, no. Your
honor, mr. spector...
1425
01:09:13,349 --> 01:09:14,716
Shut that fucking thing off.
1426
01:09:14,750 --> 01:09:17,252
Ok, let her come
into the court.
1427
01:09:17,286 --> 01:09:19,921
Where did she say this
in a court of law?
1428
01:09:19,955 --> 01:09:22,924
Have her come in here,
let her... let her
1429
01:09:22,958 --> 01:09:25,059
come here and beat me.
1430
01:09:25,094 --> 01:09:28,196
Let that psychotic bitch
come forward in court
1431
01:09:28,230 --> 01:09:30,965
and swear where she can
be cross-examined...
1432
01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:32,267
"He threatened me."
1433
01:09:32,301 --> 01:09:33,635
Turn that fucking thing off.
1434
01:09:33,669 --> 01:09:34,969
"He beat me such that I..."
1435
01:09:35,004 --> 01:09:39,040
That sick, no-talent... "He
kept me from my children."
1436
01:09:39,074 --> 01:09:40,508
Turn that fucking thing off!
1437
01:09:40,543 --> 01:09:43,011
If I hadn't found her...
"He locked me in my room."
1438
01:09:43,045 --> 01:09:48,349
If I hadn't found her in the
gutter, what do you think?
1439
01:09:48,384 --> 01:09:51,286
Do you think these singers
made those songs?
1440
01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:52,287
I made those songs.
1441
01:09:52,321 --> 01:09:53,288
Your honor.
1442
01:09:53,322 --> 01:09:54,856
Ah, fuck this.
1443
01:09:54,890 --> 01:09:57,325
Fuck this whole thing,
this fucking charade.
1444
01:09:57,359 --> 01:09:58,693
And what do you do?
1445
01:09:58,727 --> 01:10:00,161
Who are you?
1446
01:10:00,196 --> 01:10:01,996
How dare you?
1447
01:10:02,031 --> 01:10:03,998
Who... who do you think you are,
1448
01:10:04,033 --> 01:10:06,234
to come in here and accuse me?
1449
01:10:06,268 --> 01:10:07,769
Philip.
1450
01:10:07,803 --> 01:10:09,037
I understand. I know
what's going on.
1451
01:10:09,071 --> 01:10:11,506
Philip... Shut up!
1452
01:10:11,540 --> 01:10:13,908
Because I'm paying the lot
of you for this whole thing.
1453
01:10:13,943 --> 01:10:16,477
I understand
1454
01:10:16,512 --> 01:10:23,351
that this semi-talented
nowhere, this backup singer,
1455
01:10:23,385 --> 01:10:26,154
to whom I gave
everything I own...
1456
01:10:26,188 --> 01:10:30,592
My life, her life, my children.
1457
01:10:30,626 --> 01:10:35,597
And to have you come in here
quoting her libelous, non-sworn,
1458
01:10:35,631 --> 01:10:39,133
cowardly bullshit!
1459
01:10:39,168 --> 01:10:42,670
What does it cost her
to lash out at me?
1460
01:10:42,705 --> 01:10:43,805
Or you, for that matter?
1461
01:10:43,839 --> 01:10:45,373
Philip, this is a rehearsal.
1462
01:10:45,407 --> 01:10:46,774
I know it's a rehearsal!
1463
01:10:46,809 --> 01:10:49,110
Damn it! What do you
think I am?
1464
01:10:49,144 --> 01:10:50,578
An idiot?
1465
01:10:50,613 --> 01:10:52,046
Do you think I'm a fool?
1466
01:10:52,081 --> 01:10:53,948
Do you think I don't
know what this is about?
1467
01:10:53,983 --> 01:10:56,851
I've played this game a
million times before.
1468
01:10:56,885 --> 01:10:59,187
I know how the game is played!
1469
01:10:59,221 --> 01:11:02,501
I've done this my whole life.
What do you think?
1470
01:11:04,426 --> 01:11:08,263
They kill men for
telling the truth.
1471
01:11:08,297 --> 01:11:09,497
This is the truth!
1472
01:11:09,531 --> 01:11:11,633
All right. All right. All out.
1473
01:11:11,667 --> 01:11:12,788
- Everybody out.
- Uh, but...
1474
01:11:13,969 --> 01:11:16,471
Ok.
1475
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:26,447
I worked my whole life.
1476
01:11:28,784 --> 01:11:32,520
I worked my whole life.
1477
01:11:32,554 --> 01:11:34,322
All right?
1478
01:11:34,356 --> 01:11:35,623
It's not all right.
1479
01:11:35,658 --> 01:11:37,659
It's not all right.
It's not all right.
1480
01:11:37,693 --> 01:11:39,560
It's certainly not
all right, philip.
1481
01:11:39,595 --> 01:11:42,196
If you go off like that
in the courtroom...
1482
01:11:42,231 --> 01:11:45,533
And I know you put the woman
up there to see if I'd go off.
1483
01:11:45,567 --> 01:11:46,868
This is not going off.
1484
01:11:46,902 --> 01:11:49,737
Not re-fucking-motely.
1485
01:11:49,772 --> 01:11:52,092
Would you like to
trust me, philip?
1486
01:11:52,107 --> 01:11:54,442
You might want to trust me,
because I'm the last person
1487
01:11:54,476 --> 01:11:57,045
who both, "a," believes in
you and "b" has the power
1488
01:11:57,079 --> 01:11:58,212
to help your case.
1489
01:11:58,247 --> 01:11:59,414
Oh, is that why
you brought back...
1490
01:11:59,448 --> 01:12:00,682
Shut up, philip. Now listen.
1491
01:12:00,716 --> 01:12:04,605
You know the difference between
your different behaviors.
1492
01:12:05,587 --> 01:12:07,322
I act the same with everyone.
1493
01:12:07,356 --> 01:12:08,990
No, nobody does.
1494
01:12:09,024 --> 01:12:10,358
You didn't act the same
around your bands.
1495
01:12:10,392 --> 01:12:12,260
You didn't act the same
around the beatles
1496
01:12:12,294 --> 01:12:14,128
like you did with
an autograph-seeker.
1497
01:12:14,163 --> 01:12:16,164
You can control your behavior.
1498
01:12:16,198 --> 01:12:17,799
Why is this important?
1499
01:12:17,833 --> 01:12:19,000
Because if you don't,
1500
01:12:19,034 --> 01:12:22,437
you're going to jail for
the rest of your life.
1501
01:12:22,471 --> 01:12:23,871
The prosecution is
gonna do everything
1502
01:12:23,906 --> 01:12:29,277
in its power to enrage you
because that's all they have.
1503
01:12:29,311 --> 01:12:31,245
That is what we are
doing here today.
1504
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:35,083
They have no facts.
They have to break you.
1505
01:12:35,117 --> 01:12:37,118
You see, if you go off,
the jury will say,
1506
01:12:37,152 --> 01:12:39,721
"he did it now. I'm
sure he did it then,"
1507
01:12:39,755 --> 01:12:41,055
and they'll put you away.
1508
01:12:41,090 --> 01:12:42,757
I had no trouble
with the beatles.
1509
01:12:42,791 --> 01:12:45,126
And you will have no
trouble with the d.A.
1510
01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:47,695
If you recall that you
want something from him
1511
01:12:47,730 --> 01:12:51,265
and you will go free.
1512
01:12:51,300 --> 01:12:54,369
Now, I want something from you.
1513
01:12:54,403 --> 01:12:56,971
I want you to give up the
pills, give up the wine
1514
01:12:57,005 --> 01:12:58,973
for the 2 or 3 days
you'll be on the stand
1515
01:12:59,007 --> 01:13:00,508
and keep your composure,
1516
01:13:00,542 --> 01:13:01,676
just like you did
around the beatles.
1517
01:13:01,710 --> 01:13:05,413
I mean, if paul disagreed with
you, did you scream at him?
1518
01:13:05,447 --> 01:13:07,115
On "let it be"?
1519
01:13:07,149 --> 01:13:10,017
I was proved right.
1520
01:13:10,052 --> 01:13:12,887
And you will be
proved right here
1521
01:13:12,921 --> 01:13:14,922
if you keep your composure.
1522
01:13:14,957 --> 01:13:17,191
But if you don't, you won't.
1523
01:13:17,226 --> 01:13:21,929
I promise you that I will
be prepared mentally,
1524
01:13:21,964 --> 01:13:25,233
spiritually, and that I
will make a good impression
1525
01:13:25,267 --> 01:13:30,204
and... keep their respect.
1526
01:13:30,239 --> 01:13:32,173
I understand.
1527
01:13:32,207 --> 01:13:35,343
Thank you.
1528
01:13:35,377 --> 01:13:36,344
You know why?
1529
01:13:36,378 --> 01:13:37,845
Why?
1530
01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:43,351
Not for what they think of me,
but what you think of me.
1531
01:13:43,385 --> 01:13:47,107
Thank you. I take that
as a great compliment.
1532
01:13:50,626 --> 01:13:55,029
Vicky, where's the car?
1533
01:13:55,063 --> 01:13:56,030
So.
1534
01:13:56,064 --> 01:13:57,098
All right?
1535
01:13:57,132 --> 01:13:58,766
Yeah. I'm just
saving it... you know,
1536
01:13:58,801 --> 01:14:03,771
saving my best work
for when we're rolling.
1537
01:14:03,806 --> 01:14:05,573
I'm a little tired, too,
I think.
1538
01:14:05,607 --> 01:14:08,643
Best I go home
and rest for tomorrow.
1539
01:14:08,677 --> 01:14:10,411
No, I get it.
1540
01:14:10,446 --> 01:14:14,148
It... it don't start getting
better till it's gotten bad.
1541
01:14:14,183 --> 01:14:15,583
I'm equal to it.
1542
01:14:15,617 --> 01:14:19,654
Hey, guys, you want to see
if the car's ready, please?
1543
01:14:19,688 --> 01:14:20,655
I got it.
1544
01:14:20,689 --> 01:14:21,656
Anyway, thank you.
1545
01:14:21,690 --> 01:14:23,291
No.
1546
01:14:23,325 --> 01:14:25,159
This was a good idea.
1547
01:14:25,194 --> 01:14:26,494
You rest up.
We'll see you tomorrow.
1548
01:14:26,528 --> 01:14:28,763
Ok.
1549
01:14:28,797 --> 01:14:30,665
So thank you all.
1550
01:14:30,699 --> 01:14:37,171
Let me just say I know you
were paid to get me prepared.
1551
01:14:37,206 --> 01:14:38,973
You did an excellent job.
1552
01:14:39,007 --> 01:14:46,347
You were paid to perform, and
your performance was perfect.
1553
01:14:46,381 --> 01:14:49,884
So can I do as well as you?
1554
01:14:49,918 --> 01:14:52,920
Tomorrow, we'll see.
1555
01:14:52,955 --> 01:14:56,691
If I do, it's because
of you, right?
1556
01:14:56,725 --> 01:14:58,926
Thank you.
1557
01:14:58,961 --> 01:14:59,994
Linda, you want to go
to the car?
1558
01:15:00,028 --> 01:15:01,429
Yeah.
1559
01:15:04,132 --> 01:15:08,569
What you're doing,
linda, is good.
1560
01:15:08,604 --> 01:15:12,807
It's what I always tried to do,
so I know what you're doing.
1561
01:15:12,841 --> 01:15:16,410
What am I doing, philip?
1562
01:15:16,445 --> 01:15:19,547
You're defending the artist.
1563
01:15:19,581 --> 01:15:22,216
I know you're not well.
1564
01:15:22,251 --> 01:15:25,586
I know what this
is costing you.
1565
01:15:25,621 --> 01:15:28,122
That's what I go by.
1566
01:15:28,156 --> 01:15:32,426
I've met a lot of crazy
people in my life.
1567
01:15:32,461 --> 01:15:38,866
I've met very few sane
ones that I could talk to.
1568
01:15:43,939 --> 01:15:46,240
All right.
1569
01:15:46,275 --> 01:15:47,515
Here we go.
1570
01:15:53,682 --> 01:15:55,416
He don't look good.
1571
01:15:55,450 --> 01:15:57,785
He's tired.
1572
01:15:57,819 --> 01:16:01,422
Are you going to keep him up
on the stand all day tomorrow?
1573
01:16:01,456 --> 01:16:04,425
I'm gonna keep him up there
till they all get used to him,
1574
01:16:04,459 --> 01:16:06,761
after which he will no
longer be an oddity
1575
01:16:06,795 --> 01:16:09,897
but a beloved eccentric,
1576
01:16:09,932 --> 01:16:11,465
and they'll be telling
their grandchildren
1577
01:16:11,500 --> 01:16:14,835
how they helped to set
an innocent man free.
1578
01:16:24,913 --> 01:16:26,681
Linda, hi.
1579
01:16:26,715 --> 01:16:28,149
You know my wife kelly.
1580
01:16:28,183 --> 01:16:29,216
Linda kenney baden.
1581
01:16:29,251 --> 01:16:30,384
No. Hi.
1582
01:16:30,419 --> 01:16:31,752
How do you do?
1583
01:16:31,787 --> 01:16:33,187
Honey, the tickets.
1584
01:16:33,221 --> 01:16:34,789
The tickets... I'm sorry.
1585
01:16:34,823 --> 01:16:36,991
I'll be right back.
1586
01:16:39,094 --> 01:16:41,495
So how long have
you two been married?
1587
01:16:41,530 --> 01:16:43,698
I've been following your trial.
1588
01:16:43,732 --> 01:16:47,368
How could you defend that man?
1589
01:16:47,402 --> 01:16:49,537
What does your pin mean?
1590
01:16:49,571 --> 01:16:50,705
Medical aid for africa.
1591
01:16:50,739 --> 01:16:51,672
And are you active in that?
1592
01:16:51,707 --> 01:16:52,807
Yes, I am.
1593
01:16:52,841 --> 01:16:54,175
So you're compassionate.
1594
01:16:54,209 --> 01:16:55,176
All right.
1595
01:16:55,210 --> 01:16:56,544
So would you hire
an ex-convict?
1596
01:16:56,578 --> 01:16:57,878
I might.
1597
01:16:57,913 --> 01:17:00,681
So suppose she was
convicted of, say, theft
1598
01:17:00,716 --> 01:17:03,384
and she comes to you, she tells you
her story, and you judge she deserves
1599
01:17:03,418 --> 01:17:07,254
a break, so you give her a job,
and then after a year or so,
1600
01:17:07,289 --> 01:17:08,389
the household money
goes missing.
1601
01:17:08,423 --> 01:17:09,957
Do you suspect her first?
1602
01:17:09,992 --> 01:17:12,927
I would of course check...
Of course you do.
1603
01:17:12,961 --> 01:17:15,796
No matter how much you're
committed to "presumed innocent,"
1604
01:17:15,831 --> 01:17:17,732
you will suspect her first.
1605
01:17:17,766 --> 01:17:20,935
I work in the music business.
1606
01:17:20,969 --> 01:17:23,037
I know something
about your client.
1607
01:17:23,071 --> 01:17:24,438
He's a terrible man.
1608
01:17:24,473 --> 01:17:25,906
He's not being tried for that.
1609
01:17:25,941 --> 01:17:27,274
Do you think he shot her?
1610
01:17:27,309 --> 01:17:29,043
I don't see how he could have.
1611
01:17:29,077 --> 01:17:31,078
Can you prove that
he didn't shoot her?
1612
01:17:31,113 --> 01:17:33,114
Well, that's not my job.
1613
01:17:33,148 --> 01:17:35,716
By the way... I got them.
1614
01:17:35,751 --> 01:17:38,019
Did you know that your
husband is cheating on you?
1615
01:17:38,053 --> 01:17:39,420
That's ridiculous.
1616
01:17:39,454 --> 01:17:41,756
And that's called "giving him
the benefit of the doubt."
1617
01:17:41,790 --> 01:17:42,723
It's good to see you, linda.
1618
01:17:42,758 --> 01:17:43,758
You, too.
1619
01:17:43,792 --> 01:17:44,759
Good night.
1620
01:17:44,793 --> 01:17:46,527
Good night.
1621
01:17:46,561 --> 01:17:48,129
Do you think
you'll get him off?
1622
01:17:48,163 --> 01:17:49,397
Yes, I do.
1623
01:17:49,431 --> 01:17:51,532
If you get him off,
what will you do
1624
01:17:51,566 --> 01:17:53,834
when he kills the next girl?
1625
01:18:59,534 --> 01:19:02,236
[Alarm ringing]
1626
01:19:23,391 --> 01:19:26,994
As we near the end of a
long... a very long trial,
1627
01:19:27,028 --> 01:19:29,997
phil spector, once the darling
of the music industry,
1628
01:19:30,031 --> 01:19:34,769
having sold millions of
records, now facing a jury,
1629
01:19:34,803 --> 01:19:38,472
charged with the shooting death
of actress lana clarkson.
1630
01:19:38,507 --> 01:19:40,007
What are we seeing down
there, patty?
1631
01:19:40,041 --> 01:19:41,342
That's right, bill.
1632
01:19:41,376 --> 01:19:43,844
His name is in the record books,
and we all know his music,
1633
01:19:43,879 --> 01:19:47,982
but the trial, the charge, have
nothing to do with his profession
1634
01:19:48,016 --> 01:19:49,483
but of course with
his personal life.
1635
01:19:49,518 --> 01:19:51,986
I know this is the day that
you've all been waiting for.
1636
01:19:52,020 --> 01:19:54,622
You've been waiting
on his arrival,
1637
01:19:54,656 --> 01:19:58,159
and here, yes, here is
phil spector.
1638
01:19:58,193 --> 01:19:59,326
Ready.
1639
01:19:59,361 --> 01:20:00,594
dr. spitz, you
understand we won't be
1640
01:20:00,629 --> 01:20:02,863
getting to you for several
days because... Yes.
1641
01:20:02,898 --> 01:20:05,566
We will be examining mr. spector...
I understand.
1642
01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:06,667
But I thought it was important
for you to hear the testimony
1643
01:20:06,701 --> 01:20:07,701
on direct.
1644
01:20:07,736 --> 01:20:08,669
Are you gonna
keep him up there all day?
1645
01:20:08,703 --> 01:20:09,703
Linda.
1646
01:20:09,738 --> 01:20:10,805
When are you doing
the demonstrations?
1647
01:20:10,839 --> 01:20:12,673
I've got to introduce
it on redirect.
1648
01:20:12,707 --> 01:20:13,674
Uh, excuse me.
1649
01:20:13,708 --> 01:20:15,709
Not 95%. I understand.
1650
01:20:15,744 --> 01:20:16,677
That is self-inflicted.
1651
01:20:16,711 --> 01:20:18,712
Yes. Sorry. Excuse me.
1652
01:20:18,747 --> 01:20:21,415
Yes. No, no, no.
Not yet. Not yet.
1653
01:20:21,449 --> 01:20:24,385
Um, hello? Listen.
Hello? Listen.
1654
01:20:24,419 --> 01:20:29,023
I want to inspect the ballistic
test materials tonight, ok?
1655
01:20:34,763 --> 01:20:36,063
James?
1656
01:20:36,097 --> 01:20:37,331
Ok.
1657
01:20:37,365 --> 01:20:40,835
When we've got him...
No, no, no, no.
1658
01:20:40,869 --> 01:20:41,802
Either way. Either way.
1659
01:20:41,837 --> 01:20:45,539
When he's on the stand, I...
If you see me do this...
1660
01:20:45,574 --> 01:20:47,474
Ok? This. Uh-huh.
1661
01:20:47,509 --> 01:20:50,010
You come from the back of the
court and you pass me a note,
1662
01:20:50,045 --> 01:20:52,079
only make sure it's not
blank, because fiedler
1663
01:20:52,113 --> 01:20:54,949
might ask to see it,
so it should say.
1664
01:20:54,983 --> 01:20:56,984
"Communication from
bruce cutler.
1665
01:20:57,018 --> 01:20:58,118
New york. Urgent."
1666
01:20:58,153 --> 01:21:00,321
Can he keep it
together on the stand?
1667
01:21:00,355 --> 01:21:02,323
He's got to, all right?
1668
01:21:02,357 --> 01:21:05,025
We're here outside
the state courthouse, where
1669
01:21:05,060 --> 01:21:09,496
phil spector has just made
a rather spectacular entrance.
1670
01:21:09,531 --> 01:21:11,732
Stay with him... stay with him as
long as you can stay with him,
1671
01:21:11,766 --> 01:21:14,001
and then get the
reactions of the crowd.
1672
01:21:14,035 --> 01:21:16,170
Is he out of his mind?
1673
01:21:16,204 --> 01:21:17,905
Follow him. Follow him through.
1674
01:21:17,939 --> 01:21:19,840
Follow on phil.
1675
01:21:19,875 --> 01:21:21,508
Oh, my god.
1676
01:21:23,411 --> 01:21:25,813
Phil spector has just
entered the courthouse.
1677
01:21:25,881 --> 01:21:28,349
As you know, reporters are not
allowed into the courthouse,
1678
01:21:28,383 --> 01:21:31,185
but if you stay with us,
we will be out here
1679
01:21:31,219 --> 01:21:32,753
waiting for his return.
1680
01:21:32,787 --> 01:21:36,023
We will be back with you.
We'll have the news of the day.
1681
01:21:36,057 --> 01:21:37,992
Stay with us.
1682
01:21:38,026 --> 01:21:40,227
We will be waiting...
1683
01:21:43,565 --> 01:21:45,733
Folks, clear the way.
1684
01:21:45,767 --> 01:21:46,700
Excuse me. Excuse me.
1685
01:21:46,735 --> 01:21:48,269
Let me through.
1686
01:21:52,874 --> 01:21:55,709
You on that side,
you on that side.
1687
01:21:57,245 --> 01:21:58,212
Coming out.
1688
01:21:58,246 --> 01:21:59,179
I need you at the perimeter.
1689
01:21:59,214 --> 01:22:01,448
No one without
the yellow pass passes.
1690
01:22:01,483 --> 01:22:03,384
Get back.
1691
01:22:03,418 --> 01:22:04,451
Give them room
on the elevators.
1692
01:22:04,486 --> 01:22:05,419
Outside...
1693
01:22:41,122 --> 01:22:43,624
What is it?
1694
01:22:43,658 --> 01:22:48,862
Well, it's pneumonia, philip.
1695
01:22:50,999 --> 01:22:54,101
Oh, pneumonia?
1696
01:22:54,135 --> 01:22:56,503
Oh, man.
1697
01:22:56,538 --> 01:22:59,506
You got to take
care of yourself.
1698
01:22:59,541 --> 01:23:02,843
Look in the mirror.
1699
01:23:02,877 --> 01:23:05,646
You're concerned
about my appearance.
1700
01:23:05,680 --> 01:23:06,714
Look in the mirror, philip.
1701
01:23:06,748 --> 01:23:12,853
I know. I wanted, linda,
to look my best today.
1702
01:23:12,887 --> 01:23:15,556
I know you're concerned
about my hair.
1703
01:23:15,590 --> 01:23:21,161
My hair... listen to me.
My hair is an homage.
1704
01:23:21,196 --> 01:23:25,666
Philip... To jimi hendrix. Yes?
Who suffered... Look...
1705
01:23:25,700 --> 01:23:29,003
Who suffered, who was
persecuted philip...
1706
01:23:29,037 --> 01:23:30,738
Please, just don't make a
big thing out of this.
1707
01:23:30,772 --> 01:23:32,172
This is not as
outrageous as it looks.
1708
01:23:32,207 --> 01:23:34,141
Philip... Linda, what is it?
1709
01:23:34,175 --> 01:23:35,209
It's not a big thing.
1710
01:23:35,243 --> 01:23:36,176
Here, let me just tell you.
1711
01:23:36,211 --> 01:23:39,346
I spent quite a bit
of time on this.
1712
01:23:39,381 --> 01:23:42,583
I've been up since 4:00
in the morning, right?
1713
01:23:42,617 --> 01:23:47,988
And the truth... the truth
is that backlit, this...
1714
01:23:48,023 --> 01:23:52,926
Listen... Listen to me. I
know about these things.
1715
01:23:52,961 --> 01:23:54,762
I know these things. I'm
an expert at these things.
1716
01:23:54,796 --> 01:23:57,064
What things?
1717
01:23:57,098 --> 01:23:58,799
Show business, linda.
1718
01:23:58,833 --> 01:24:00,968
Putting on a show.
1719
01:24:01,002 --> 01:24:02,369
Will you grant me that?
1720
01:24:02,404 --> 01:24:05,339
Sure. All right.
1721
01:24:05,373 --> 01:24:07,875
The amount of time I spent
with the ronettes,
1722
01:24:07,909 --> 01:24:12,513
the crystals, with darlene, with
the bobby socks, with tina,
1723
01:24:12,547 --> 01:24:15,282
on their clothes,
on their dresses.
1724
01:24:15,316 --> 01:24:18,185
One might have even whispered
at the time, many things...
1725
01:24:18,219 --> 01:24:19,520
Philip...
1726
01:24:19,554 --> 01:24:21,221
One might have even... listen to me.
Listen to me, linda.
1727
01:24:21,289 --> 01:24:26,527
One might have even whispered,
"this man is queer."
1728
01:24:26,561 --> 01:24:29,063
Further, had I been queer,
1729
01:24:29,097 --> 01:24:32,199
it wouldn't have mattered
because I never cared
1730
01:24:32,233 --> 01:24:34,201
who put what into whom.
1731
01:24:34,235 --> 01:24:37,004
What business was that of mine?
1732
01:24:37,038 --> 01:24:38,038
I'm quoted on that.
1733
01:24:39,874 --> 01:24:41,942
Yes, we're coming.
1734
01:24:41,976 --> 01:24:43,777
I presume they want us
back in court.
1735
01:24:43,812 --> 01:24:44,912
Yes, that's it.
1736
01:24:44,946 --> 01:24:46,547
So...
1737
01:24:48,216 --> 01:24:54,354
I want you to put
your mind at rest.
1738
01:24:54,389 --> 01:24:58,492
When I'm up there, should they
mention my hair, and they may,
1739
01:24:58,526 --> 01:25:01,361
I'll be proud to tell them
just what I told you.
1740
01:25:03,832 --> 01:25:06,333
All right?
1741
01:25:06,367 --> 01:25:10,370
I'm ready.
1742
01:25:10,405 --> 01:25:12,206
All right.
1743
01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:15,409
I'm ready.
1744
01:25:15,443 --> 01:25:17,978
All rise.
1745
01:25:18,012 --> 01:25:20,447
The superior court for the county
of los angeles, hear ye, hear ye,
1746
01:25:20,482 --> 01:25:23,016
"people vs. Philip spector."
1747
01:25:23,051 --> 01:25:25,552
The honorable judge larry
paul fidler presiding.
1748
01:25:25,587 --> 01:25:27,154
All having business before
this court come forward
1749
01:25:27,188 --> 01:25:28,288
and you will be heard.
1750
01:25:28,323 --> 01:25:29,289
Be seated.
1751
01:25:34,896 --> 01:25:36,730
ms. baden,
I believe you wanted to call
1752
01:25:36,764 --> 01:25:39,244
one more witness
for the defense.
1753
01:25:43,371 --> 01:25:46,173
Counselor?
1754
01:25:49,677 --> 01:25:53,514
ms. baden, I'm waiting.
1755
01:25:53,548 --> 01:25:54,481
[Clears throat.
1756
01:25:54,516 --> 01:25:56,884
Counselor!
1757
01:25:56,918 --> 01:25:59,486
Yes, your honor. I'm sorry.
1758
01:26:02,323 --> 01:26:07,461
The defense calls... The defense calls dr.
werner spitz.
1759
01:26:09,864 --> 01:26:11,865
Excuse me.
1760
01:26:11,900 --> 01:26:13,734
All right.
1761
01:26:13,768 --> 01:26:15,102
Excuse me.
1762
01:26:20,441 --> 01:26:22,809
Philip, we'll just...
Let's see tomorrow,
1763
01:26:22,844 --> 01:26:24,077
we'll see how it goes.
1764
01:26:24,112 --> 01:26:26,346
Raise your right hand.
1765
01:26:26,381 --> 01:26:29,082
Do you solemnly swear that the
testimony you're about to give
1766
01:26:29,117 --> 01:26:30,484
in the matter now
before this court...
1767
01:26:30,518 --> 01:26:33,987
Phil spector has arrived.
Take a look behind me
1768
01:26:34,022 --> 01:26:37,491
as his mercedes begins to make
its way down the drive.
1769
01:26:37,525 --> 01:26:40,894
You can see his driver going at
a very fast speed
1770
01:26:40,929 --> 01:26:43,597
while the protesters are yelling
"justice for lana."
1771
01:26:43,631 --> 01:26:46,633
Here he comes as he makes his
way down the street,
1772
01:26:46,668 --> 01:26:52,272
up to his mansion, and he's
pulling up to... Go ahead.
1773
01:26:52,307 --> 01:26:53,307
No, no, no, no, no.
1774
01:26:53,341 --> 01:26:54,274
Stop. Get back.
1775
01:26:54,309 --> 01:26:55,576
Hold on.
1776
01:26:55,610 --> 01:26:56,910
On the driveway...
1777
01:27:03,685 --> 01:27:04,685
I've got one for you.
1778
01:27:04,719 --> 01:27:05,686
All right.
1779
01:27:05,720 --> 01:27:07,387
Why the barbed wire?
1780
01:27:07,422 --> 01:27:08,989
To keep people out.
1781
01:27:09,023 --> 01:27:12,626
Nobody was trying to get in.
1782
01:27:12,660 --> 01:27:15,662
Why does the monster
live in a castle?
1783
01:27:15,697 --> 01:27:17,531
Why does the minotaur
live in a cave?
1784
01:27:17,565 --> 01:27:19,333
I mean, he could live
wherever he wanted.
1785
01:27:19,367 --> 01:27:21,235
Why does he live in a cave?
1786
01:27:21,269 --> 01:27:23,537
Why does the minotaur
live in a cave?
1787
01:27:23,571 --> 01:27:26,306
To keep himself
from doing harm.
1788
01:27:26,341 --> 01:27:28,375
But he came out.
1789
01:27:34,582 --> 01:27:38,151
I believe he is not guilty.
1790
01:27:38,186 --> 01:27:40,220
Are you sure?
1791
01:27:40,255 --> 01:27:42,289
No.
1792
01:27:42,323 --> 01:27:44,558
But I have a reasonable doubt.
1793
01:27:46,127 --> 01:27:47,861
This is brian jennings.
1794
01:27:47,895 --> 01:27:50,998
Another day, another
turn in the saga.
1795
01:27:51,032 --> 01:27:55,068
Phil spector retired for the
night to his home that
1796
01:27:55,103 --> 01:27:56,737
that he calls his "castle."
1797
01:27:56,771 --> 01:27:59,006
And we'll leave you
for tonight, too.128709
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