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And at least eight dead
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at the We Are All
from Somewhere Else...
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- Can we go any faster?
- I'm doing my best, ma'am.
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After a gunman opened fire
with an automatic weapon.
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In addition to the dead,
we're receiving reports
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of as many as
200 people injured.
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Okay, hang on a second!
Hang on.
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Rapid track!
Trauma Bay Four!
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Walking wounded needs to be
escorted to Station One!
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Dr. Kinsey!
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I got here
as fast as I could.
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Dr. Park could really
use you in Bay One.
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Kinsey, you made it!
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I'm taking this one
up to the OR.
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I need you
to jump on
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this fellow behind me.
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- What do we have?
- Ryan Watkins.
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Male, lower abdominal
gunshot wound.
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Next OR should open
in ten minutes.
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Get started on him
as soon as you can.
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Will do.
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Oh, man, not a lot left
to put back together.
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Like a river.
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How is his pulse?
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Last I checked, thready.
Barely there.
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Dr. Kinsey?
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We're losing this patient.
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Her oxygen is
in the toilet.
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She's not
getting any air.
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Looks like
a pneumothorax.
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Oh, no. Sounds like
she's got blood in her lungs.
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Potential hemopneumo.
How long has she been like this?
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How long has she
not been breathing?
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I called you
the moment I noticed.
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Just got a text.
The OR is ready.
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We got to get going
on this guy
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or might as well just send him
directly to the morgue.
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Doctor, we got to go.
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You know what a REBOA is?
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Heard of it.
Never seen it done.
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I want to
give him one.
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It'll stop his bleeding
for 20, 30 minutes.
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That'll give me a chance
to work on her.
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That way maybe
we can save them both.
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Isn't that kind of
the definition of a Hail Mary?
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I don't know,
I'm not into football
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and I don't go to church.
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I need a REBOA and
some chest tubes, stat.
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You're really
going to use a REBOA?
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But Dr. Park told you
to operate on him now.
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I know. But I'm not even sure
we can save him.
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In fact, the only thing
I'm certain of is,
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we take the time to get him
over to the OR,
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we're absolutely
losing her.
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But what if
it doesn't work?
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What if we lose them both?
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It's going to work.
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I think I need to have
a quick chat with Dr. Park.
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Walk away from that patient,
don't bother coming back.
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Here's your
REBOA and your chest tubes.
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Great.
Let's make some miracles.
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Let's hail some Marys.
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Hey.
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Ah...
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I can't lie.
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Feel pretty strange
about this.
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No. Bull's right.
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You need your own office.
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I've been a lawyer
for a minute and a half.
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I can work
in the conference room.
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I'm happy to work
in the conference room.
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But you're Benjamin Col�n.
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Hell, rumor has it
that you're running for D.A.
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of the greatest city
in the world.
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You need a place
of your own, man.
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You need an office where
you can hang that law degree
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up on the wall.
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Well, you've got
a law degree.
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I certainly do.
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And now I'm working towards
a wall to hang it on.
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Sorry to break up
this legal convention,
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but the big guy
is waiting for you
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in the conference room.
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I had just finished
my rounds at the hospital
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about
two and a half hours earlier.
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I was climbing out
of the shower
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when one of
the ER nurses called
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and said they were expecting...
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I thought she said
hundreds of patients.
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But then I thought
I must have misheard.
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But then she said
there was some kind of
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mass casualty situation
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and they were calling in every
off-duty doctor in the area.
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It was all hands on deck.
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Hmm. How many
patients
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did Mercy actually
receive that night?
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Over 200.
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All with
penetrating gunshot wounds.
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And the deceased...
Uh, Ryan Watkins...
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He was your first patient?
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He was supposed to be.
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Soon as I got there,
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I conferred with Dr. Park,
the chief trauma surgeon.
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And he was taking
another patient up to the OR,
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so he told me to get started
on Mr. Watkins.
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Was there
any special reason
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why Dr. Park wanted you
to operate on Watkins first?
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I mean, it sounds like
there were plenty of people
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needing immediate care.
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No.
I think
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Dr. Park just considered
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his injuries
the most critical.
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But then
I saw this woman.
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And to my eye,
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she was in as equally bad shape
as Mr. Watkins.
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She had a lot of blood
and air in her chest.
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Struggling to breathe.
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I needed to drain that blood
and air fast or we'd lose her.
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But if I had operated
on him first,
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that woman
absolutely would have died
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while waiting for treatment.
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Whereas if I could just keep
Mr. Watkins alive
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for a half hour,
I could definitely save her
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and maybe save him, too.
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You know, one way,
I'm staring at
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a likely
lose-lose situation.
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The other, I was certain
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at least one of them
was going to live.
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That's why you used
this REBOA thing?
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I'm sorry.
What is a REBOA?
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It stands for
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Resuscitative Endovascular
Balloon Occlusion of the Aorta.
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It's a kind of
internal tourniquet.
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A balloon catheter
that you position
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in a person's aorta to
prevent them from bleeding out.
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It buys you time.
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Which was what I needed.
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But it didn't work.
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Well, the other patient
needed chest tubes.
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That should have taken
20 minutes, tops.
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But once I got in there,
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it was more complicated
than I had anticipated.
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And by the time I got her stable
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and got back to Mr. Watkins,
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40, 45 minutes had gone by.
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And he-he didn't make it.
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I tried, but...
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So, the plaintiff,
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Mr. Watkins' mother, is saying
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that the REBOA
should never have been used.
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Especially not
for 40 minutes.
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They are arguing that the REBOA
is not even considered
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an acceptable
standard of care.
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I'm not denying it's a
controversial technique.
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I mean, usually it's
only a stop-gap measure
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to buy you the ten,
15 minutes it takes
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to get a patient
into the OR and opened up.
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For what it's worth, I've
personally made the REBOA work
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for up to an hour.
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Before I went into
trauma,
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I was a military medic
in Afghanistan,
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and I used it there
all the time.
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Well, it'd be great
if we could get someone in
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to testify to that...
Other than you.
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You know, I didn't see
your picture on the website.
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Ex-Excuse me?
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When I was researching
the Trial Analysis Corporation.
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I remember
reading about a lawyer,
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but I don't think he was you.
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Mr. Palmer has been
with the firm
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for over five years
in a variety of capacities.
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He's handled several cases
on his own,
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but he did just officially
pass the bar this last summer.
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But do you have any experience
in medical malpractice?
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This firm has handled hundreds
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of medical malpractice cases,
and I personally
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- have super...
- But Mr. Palmer?
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This will be my first.
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There's another attorney here.
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And he has lots of experience
in medical...
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No. I'm the
trial scientist.
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I'm the tactician.
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And I am telling you
he's the one to plead this case.
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Now,
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if you don't agree with that,
there are plenty
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of other companies
I'm sure you can go to
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that would be happy
to take your money.
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But, Dr. Kinsey,
this is a jury trial.
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It's six people.
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And they're going to decide
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whether you're innocent
or guilty.
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They are going
to decide
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whether you live
the rest of your life
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in relative comfort
or all-consuming debt.
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They're gonna decide
whether you get to use
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the salutation "Doctor" in front
of your name ever again.
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The other side is going to bring
all kinds of sage, old men
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who will offer intimidating
and confusing medical testimony.
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They'll try and bully
their way to a verdict.
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Now, here's
what I know.
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You give people
a choice
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between something
they understand
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and something
they don't understand,
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they will almost always lean
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in the direction of
the thing they understand.
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This case isn't
about medicine.
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It's about being able
to talk to six people.
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Being able to put them
in your shoes
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when you had to make
the decisions you had to make.
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And I'm telling you,
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this is the man for the job.
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Now...
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are we going to court
or not?
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I appreciate your
confidence in me.
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It's no big deal.
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I meant what I said.
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I think you're
the right man for the job.
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I think the jurors
are going to appreciate
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being talked to
by someone like them.
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Someone
who doesn't
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eat, sleep and drink
medical malpractice.
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Someone who's just
trying to figure out
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what really
happened here.
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So, voir dire.
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You
have any thoughts?
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So, in a perfect world,
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we would love
to be talking to people
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who are at least willing
to entertain the idea
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that Dr. Kinsey, finding herself
in an impossible situation,
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made the best decisions
she could...
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if not to save every life,
then to save most lives.
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It really is a case study
in lifeboat ethics.
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It is funny.
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Not one press
report I've read
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mentions that
Dr. Kinsey saved
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five other lives
that day.
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Truth is,
our client's a hero.
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The jury needs
to hear that.
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And they need to hear it
during voir dire.
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Everybody here know who
Sully Sullenberger is?
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Yeah.
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He's the pilot who landed
the plane on the Hudson River.
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That's him.
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Man behind
the "Miracle on the Hudson."
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A hero. Right?
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Anybody remember why he had
to land that plane on the river?
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Yes.
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The plane hit
some birds, I think.
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Yes, it did.
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And it put that man
in an impossible situation.
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Air traffic control
had already ordered him
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back to the airport.
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He was convinced
he wouldn't make it.
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So he improvised
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and decided
to attempt a water landing.
260
00:09:16,994 --> 00:09:18,510
Didn't ask for permission.
261
00:09:19,193 --> 00:09:20,299
No time.
262
00:09:20,588 --> 00:09:22,330
He just did it.
263
00:09:22,714 --> 00:09:26,939
And managed to save
every passenger on that plane.
264
00:09:27,071 --> 00:09:29,076
A hero... right?
265
00:09:29,541 --> 00:09:31,244
Juror 21.
266
00:09:31,329 --> 00:09:33,260
It says here that
you were a police officer.
267
00:09:33,721 --> 00:09:35,447
How do you feel
about that?
268
00:09:35,532 --> 00:09:37,624
The man was given an order
and he defied it.
269
00:09:37,883 --> 00:09:39,163
Oh, I think
everything worked out
270
00:09:39,257 --> 00:09:40,565
the way
it was supposed to.
271
00:09:40,780 --> 00:09:42,494
The man was declared
a hero.
272
00:09:42,885 --> 00:09:44,252
They made a movie out of it.
273
00:09:44,337 --> 00:09:46,048
He was played
by Tom Hanks.
274
00:09:46,133 --> 00:09:48,400
I don't think
it gets any better than that.
275
00:09:48,701 --> 00:09:50,525
Ground control to Major Tom?
276
00:09:50,610 --> 00:09:52,006
Diana Merrick.
277
00:09:52,091 --> 00:09:53,596
Former NYPD.
278
00:09:53,681 --> 00:09:54,955
Took an early retirement
279
00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:56,480
after getting injured
on the job.
280
00:09:56,565 --> 00:09:57,432
Injured how?
281
00:09:57,517 --> 00:09:59,330
Suspect stabbed her
during an arrest
282
00:09:59,415 --> 00:10:02,205
and then she apparently took him
down with a fire extinguisher.
283
00:10:02,323 --> 00:10:03,705
Hit him with it.
284
00:10:03,869 --> 00:10:05,299
A woman of action.
285
00:10:05,416 --> 00:10:06,809
That's our kind of girl.
286
00:10:07,361 --> 00:10:10,479
Your Honor, juror 21
is acceptable to the defense.
287
00:10:11,181 --> 00:10:12,619
Nice work,
Counselor.
288
00:10:13,317 --> 00:10:14,596
We make
a pretty good team.
289
00:10:14,681 --> 00:10:17,283
Well, all I'm doing is
following your lead.
290
00:10:17,686 --> 00:10:20,338
Like I said,
we make a pretty good team.
291
00:10:34,365 --> 00:10:35,500
There he is.
292
00:10:35,607 --> 00:10:37,394
Oh, hustler,
hustler.
293
00:10:38,252 --> 00:10:40,755
Survived your first day
on the medical malpractice beat?
294
00:10:40,979 --> 00:10:42,979
Other side threw in the towel.
Gave up.
295
00:10:43,064 --> 00:10:44,715
Offered to pay us money
to go away.
296
00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,760
- Ooh. You are knee-deep now.
- Yeah.
297
00:10:47,845 --> 00:10:49,458
Keep shoveling.
298
00:10:49,631 --> 00:10:50,766
Bull know you're here?
299
00:10:50,850 --> 00:10:52,666
Nah,
but so what?
300
00:10:53,001 --> 00:10:57,182
Actually, I came by
to tell you I think I'm good.
301
00:10:57,799 --> 00:10:59,166
Okay.
302
00:10:59,408 --> 00:11:00,838
So tell me about tomorrow.
303
00:11:00,994 --> 00:11:02,563
Opening statements.
304
00:11:02,648 --> 00:11:05,567
Plaintiffs are gonna say that
my client made a bad decision
305
00:11:05,652 --> 00:11:07,092
she had no right to make,
306
00:11:07,338 --> 00:11:08,864
and I'm gonna tell them
about a woman
307
00:11:08,949 --> 00:11:11,260
who found herself in the middle
of a perfect storm,
308
00:11:11,937 --> 00:11:13,420
made the best choices
she could,
309
00:11:13,568 --> 00:11:14,964
and saved five lives.
310
00:11:15,431 --> 00:11:17,423
- First witness?
- Dr. Park.
311
00:11:17,619 --> 00:11:19,707
Now, he's gonna testify
that he told her to operate
312
00:11:19,792 --> 00:11:21,385
on the plaintiff first.
313
00:11:21,794 --> 00:11:23,010
I'm gonna try to imply
314
00:11:23,095 --> 00:11:24,752
that it was actually he
who was derelict,
315
00:11:24,837 --> 00:11:27,010
since he clearly didn't
consider thoroughly
316
00:11:27,095 --> 00:11:29,448
the conditions of the other
patients in the trauma bay.
317
00:11:29,695 --> 00:11:30,822
Sounds smart.
318
00:11:31,127 --> 00:11:32,486
Why, thank you, sir.
319
00:11:33,164 --> 00:11:34,392
I'm gonna go.
320
00:11:35,795 --> 00:11:37,736
Just beware of
the bank shot.
321
00:11:39,497 --> 00:11:40,716
Come again?
322
00:11:47,436 --> 00:11:48,959
- Damn.
- No, no.
323
00:11:50,231 --> 00:11:51,604
Oh, yeah.
324
00:11:52,731 --> 00:11:53,955
The bank shot.
325
00:11:55,808 --> 00:11:57,994
So you think you know
why the plaintiff
326
00:11:58,079 --> 00:12:01,338
is calling a witness,
and y-you may be right.
327
00:12:02,175 --> 00:12:05,658
But a lot of the time,
the other side
328
00:12:05,743 --> 00:12:08,479
will call a witness with
a whole other purpose entirely.
329
00:12:08,734 --> 00:12:10,000
The witness
will say everything
330
00:12:10,116 --> 00:12:11,816
you expect him to say,
but then,
331
00:12:11,901 --> 00:12:13,986
just at the last minute,
boom,
332
00:12:14,254 --> 00:12:16,611
he'll throw a whole new
fact pattern out there.
333
00:12:17,584 --> 00:12:18,643
Bank shot.
334
00:12:20,427 --> 00:12:22,424
- So what do I do?
- Two things.
335
00:12:22,599 --> 00:12:24,010
One, do your best.
336
00:12:24,132 --> 00:12:26,221
Two, stop saying
you're good.
337
00:12:26,799 --> 00:12:28,900
You shouldn't be good
until this is all over.
338
00:12:28,985 --> 00:12:31,119
And then,
only if you've won.
339
00:12:32,487 --> 00:12:33,939
Stay scared, Chunk.
340
00:12:35,505 --> 00:12:37,494
Bank shots can come
out of nowhere.
341
00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,395
Let's talk about
the evening of the shooting.
342
00:12:40,479 --> 00:12:42,455
How soon after
you got the call
343
00:12:42,540 --> 00:12:44,922
did you have someone
reach out to Dr. Kinsey
344
00:12:45,007 --> 00:12:47,322
and ask her to return
to the hospital?
345
00:12:47,599 --> 00:12:49,691
I believe
it was within minutes.
346
00:12:50,212 --> 00:12:53,557
And when she arrived,
did you tell Dr. Kinsey to take
347
00:12:53,642 --> 00:12:56,192
Mr. Watkins up to the OR
for surgery
348
00:12:56,277 --> 00:12:58,543
as soon as a room
became available?
349
00:12:58,634 --> 00:13:01,252
- I did.
- And even though
350
00:13:01,337 --> 00:13:04,759
she received that directive
from you, her superior,
351
00:13:04,846 --> 00:13:08,415
that's not
what Dr. Kinsey did, is it?
352
00:13:08,944 --> 00:13:11,040
- No.
- Now, you mentioned
353
00:13:11,125 --> 00:13:13,485
that Dr. Kinsey
decided to deploy
354
00:13:13,601 --> 00:13:14,587
a REBOA.
355
00:13:14,672 --> 00:13:16,155
Had you been consulted,
356
00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,086
would you have approved
of this decision?
357
00:13:18,171 --> 00:13:19,603
No, I would not.
358
00:13:20,691 --> 00:13:24,978
In my 27 years, I've actually
never used a REBOA.
359
00:13:25,543 --> 00:13:27,978
As far as I know,
the mainstream medical community
360
00:13:28,063 --> 00:13:32,723
has still not reached a decision
as to when, where or even if
361
00:13:32,823 --> 00:13:34,251
the REBOA should be used.
362
00:13:34,386 --> 00:13:36,814
It comes with a slew
of complications
363
00:13:36,899 --> 00:13:38,595
and high mortality rates.
364
00:13:38,680 --> 00:13:41,940
Are you surprised
the use of the REBOA resulted
365
00:13:42,025 --> 00:13:43,422
in Ryan Watkins' death?
366
00:13:43,927 --> 00:13:45,868
- No.
- No further questions
367
00:13:45,953 --> 00:13:47,337
for this witness,
Your Honor.
368
00:13:49,747 --> 00:13:52,663
I'm not a doctor, but I sense
we're bleeding out here.
369
00:13:54,048 --> 00:13:55,617
Before I begin
my questioning,
370
00:13:55,702 --> 00:13:57,012
I'd just like to thank you,
Dr. Park,
371
00:13:57,096 --> 00:13:59,667
you and the entire
Mercy Hospital team,
372
00:13:59,752 --> 00:14:02,410
for all of your hard work
during that awful night.
373
00:14:02,585 --> 00:14:03,650
Thank you.
374
00:14:03,817 --> 00:14:06,961
Now, you testified that
mere minutes after receiving
375
00:14:07,046 --> 00:14:08,657
the call about
the mass shooting,
376
00:14:08,749 --> 00:14:11,276
you directed someone
to call Dr. Kinsey
377
00:14:11,361 --> 00:14:13,063
and see if she'd be able
to come back to work.
378
00:14:13,147 --> 00:14:15,882
Yes. Even though she just
finished a 12-hour shift.
379
00:14:15,967 --> 00:14:17,058
Yes.
380
00:14:17,143 --> 00:14:18,887
You must hold her
in pretty high regard,
381
00:14:18,971 --> 00:14:20,048
wouldn't you say?
382
00:14:20,886 --> 00:14:22,134
I suppose so.
383
00:14:22,219 --> 00:14:25,312
In fact, you hired her,
didn't you?
384
00:14:25,562 --> 00:14:27,759
I was among the people
on the committee
385
00:14:27,844 --> 00:14:30,110
that weighed in
on her hiring, yes.
386
00:14:30,384 --> 00:14:33,597
I think it stands to reason
that at some point
387
00:14:33,845 --> 00:14:37,017
you had a high degree of faith
in Dr. Kinsey's decision-making.
388
00:14:37,102 --> 00:14:38,032
Wouldn't you say?
389
00:14:38,117 --> 00:14:40,306
And it's Chunk Palmer
on the 20.
390
00:14:42,337 --> 00:14:43,486
I'm waiting for an answer,
Dr. Park.
391
00:14:43,570 --> 00:14:45,478
Objection,
Your Honor. Relevance.
392
00:14:45,563 --> 00:14:48,446
This trial is not about
why Dr. Kinsey was hired.
393
00:14:48,531 --> 00:14:50,728
It is about why she
did what she did
394
00:14:50,813 --> 00:14:54,696
after being given specific
instructions by her superior.
395
00:14:54,819 --> 00:14:56,998
Objection sustained.
Ask another question,
396
00:14:57,121 --> 00:14:58,439
Counselor.
397
00:14:58,693 --> 00:15:01,090
Situations like this,
a-a mass shooting,
398
00:15:01,285 --> 00:15:02,603
are fast-moving
399
00:15:02,688 --> 00:15:04,345
- and fluid, aren't they?
- Of course.
400
00:15:04,438 --> 00:15:07,040
And so, as patients
are moved from EMS
401
00:15:07,125 --> 00:15:10,218
to emergency room doctors
to trauma surgeons,
402
00:15:10,519 --> 00:15:14,009
quite often their condition
changes rapidly, doesn't it?
403
00:15:14,094 --> 00:15:15,126
That's correct.
404
00:15:15,211 --> 00:15:17,204
And am I safe in
assuming that, ideally,
405
00:15:17,289 --> 00:15:20,814
you would want them to be
reassessed as often as possible?
406
00:15:20,899 --> 00:15:22,275
Of course.
So,
407
00:15:22,444 --> 00:15:24,735
the night that you decided
that Mr. Watkins
408
00:15:24,906 --> 00:15:27,579
should be operated on
prior to anyone else,
409
00:15:27,736 --> 00:15:30,860
isn't it possible that while
that was the right decision
410
00:15:31,022 --> 00:15:34,115
when you made it, it might not
have been the right decision
411
00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:35,813
five or ten minutes later?
412
00:15:36,178 --> 00:15:37,634
And isn't
it possible
413
00:15:37,719 --> 00:15:39,282
that on Dr. Kinsey's subsequent,
414
00:15:39,367 --> 00:15:41,181
more thorough
examination,
415
00:15:41,266 --> 00:15:43,767
and faced with two
critically wounded patients,
416
00:15:43,852 --> 00:15:46,735
she could reasonably disagree
with your assessment?
417
00:15:46,862 --> 00:15:48,704
She lost a patient.
418
00:15:48,789 --> 00:15:52,642
If she had done what you told
her, she could have lost two.
419
00:15:52,734 --> 00:15:54,962
- Bingo.
- Objection, Your Honor.
420
00:15:55,047 --> 00:15:57,062
Counsel is testifying.
421
00:15:57,260 --> 00:15:59,396
Objection sustained.
The jury will disregard
422
00:15:59,481 --> 00:16:00,816
counsel's last statement.
423
00:16:00,901 --> 00:16:02,902
It's already forever burned
in their brains.
424
00:16:02,987 --> 00:16:04,296
Mr. Palmer?
425
00:16:04,381 --> 00:16:06,951
You do know the difference
between a question
426
00:16:07,036 --> 00:16:08,676
and a statement, don't you?
427
00:16:08,761 --> 00:16:09,652
You bet he does.
428
00:16:09,737 --> 00:16:11,621
I do, Your Honor,
and I apologize
429
00:16:11,713 --> 00:16:14,457
to the court and to the jury
and the witness.
430
00:16:14,542 --> 00:16:16,066
Your apology's accepted.
431
00:16:16,427 --> 00:16:18,785
You get one, Mr. Palmer.
432
00:16:19,642 --> 00:16:21,473
Any more questions
for this witness?
433
00:16:21,558 --> 00:16:22,973
Not at this time, Your Honor.
434
00:16:24,452 --> 00:16:26,020
Permission to redirect?
435
00:16:26,365 --> 00:16:28,152
Go ahead,
Ms. Grossman.
436
00:16:28,448 --> 00:16:29,832
Now, Dr. Park,
437
00:16:29,917 --> 00:16:32,809
this isn't the first time
that Dr. Kinsey has gone rogue
438
00:16:32,894 --> 00:16:34,801
while on your watch,
is it?
439
00:16:34,886 --> 00:16:37,434
No, it is not.
440
00:16:37,958 --> 00:16:39,876
Could you
elaborate for us, please?
441
00:16:39,961 --> 00:16:41,832
It was three months or so
442
00:16:41,917 --> 00:16:43,661
after Dr. Kinsey
joined our staff.
443
00:16:43,746 --> 00:16:46,168
We had a patient,
a car crash victim.
444
00:16:46,619 --> 00:16:50,626
Upon examination we realized she
had cirrhosis... liver disease...
445
00:16:50,725 --> 00:16:52,077
And had developed ascites,
446
00:16:52,162 --> 00:16:55,645
essentially an accumulation
of fluid in the abdomen
447
00:16:55,730 --> 00:16:59,895
which can cause kidney or
liver failure if left untreated.
448
00:17:00,154 --> 00:17:02,725
And you had Dr. Kinsey
work on this patient?
449
00:17:02,810 --> 00:17:06,855
Yes. A common procedure
is to drain the fluid
450
00:17:06,944 --> 00:17:09,689
through what's called
therapeutic paracentesis.
451
00:17:09,820 --> 00:17:12,801
You have to very carefully
hold a needle
452
00:17:12,893 --> 00:17:14,512
while the fluid drains.
453
00:17:14,597 --> 00:17:18,980
If the patient moves
or if the needle slips,
454
00:17:19,065 --> 00:17:22,246
it could puncture the liver,
causing internal bleeding.
455
00:17:22,457 --> 00:17:25,593
And so you had Dr. Kinsey
perform this procedure?
456
00:17:25,678 --> 00:17:26,926
That's correct.
457
00:17:27,011 --> 00:17:28,537
But apparently, there was
458
00:17:28,622 --> 00:17:31,254
an urgent situation
down the hall,
459
00:17:31,693 --> 00:17:33,524
and instead of stopping
the procedure
460
00:17:33,609 --> 00:17:37,465
and pulling the needle out
to go and attend to the problem,
461
00:17:37,900 --> 00:17:41,733
Dr. Kinsey decided to tape
the needle in place,
462
00:17:41,818 --> 00:17:44,650
I suppose hoping
that it would auto-drain
463
00:17:44,735 --> 00:17:46,809
while she was off
assisting down the hall.
464
00:17:46,894 --> 00:17:48,723
Is that
something that's recommended
465
00:17:48,808 --> 00:17:50,465
while performing
this procedure?
466
00:17:50,586 --> 00:17:52,293
No. Absolutely not.
467
00:17:52,508 --> 00:17:54,600
You never leave
a sharp instrument
468
00:17:54,685 --> 00:17:56,762
sticking out
of a patient unattended.
469
00:17:56,847 --> 00:17:58,852
Luckily, I came by
to check on the procedure.
470
00:17:58,937 --> 00:18:01,410
I pulled the needle,
preserving the patient's safety,
471
00:18:01,495 --> 00:18:04,309
and had a very long talk
with Dr. Kinsey.
472
00:18:04,394 --> 00:18:09,473
The thing is, it was clever,
but not responsible medicine.
473
00:18:10,062 --> 00:18:11,449
So,
474
00:18:12,247 --> 00:18:14,785
it appears that Dr. Kinsey
has a history
475
00:18:14,870 --> 00:18:17,770
of maverick medical procedures
that risk patient health.
476
00:18:17,855 --> 00:18:19,686
Objection.
Counsel is testifying.
477
00:18:19,778 --> 00:18:21,629
Rephrase,
Ms. Grossman.
478
00:18:21,714 --> 00:18:23,241
I'll withdraw the statement.
479
00:18:23,839 --> 00:18:25,473
No further questions.
480
00:18:31,452 --> 00:18:33,121
Where the hell
did that come from?
481
00:18:33,817 --> 00:18:34,996
Bank shot.
482
00:18:37,028 --> 00:18:38,482
You have to
understand. From my perspective,
483
00:18:38,566 --> 00:18:40,121
it was a nonevent.
484
00:18:40,402 --> 00:18:43,239
The woman's abdomen was draining
just fine and I was attending
485
00:18:43,324 --> 00:18:44,380
to another patient.
486
00:18:44,697 --> 00:18:45,880
Dr. Park came by,
487
00:18:45,965 --> 00:18:47,287
and I wasn't doing it
the way he would do it,
488
00:18:47,371 --> 00:18:50,090
but that doesn't mean
I was doing it improperly.
489
00:18:50,512 --> 00:18:52,036
I don't mean
to cast aspersions,
490
00:18:52,121 --> 00:18:55,427
but Park, he's the kind of guy
who's gonna keep making his bed
491
00:18:55,512 --> 00:18:58,496
until it's absolutely perfect,
even when the house is on fire.
492
00:18:58,815 --> 00:19:01,013
Be that as it may,
the plaintiff's attorney
493
00:19:01,098 --> 00:19:03,083
has already planted it
in the jury's mind
494
00:19:03,168 --> 00:19:05,699
that you're some kind
of rebel doctor,
495
00:19:05,784 --> 00:19:07,918
willing to compromise
your patient's well-being
496
00:19:08,003 --> 00:19:10,396
for the satisfaction
of doing it your way.
497
00:19:10,644 --> 00:19:11,753
Do you know
498
00:19:11,838 --> 00:19:13,408
a Dr. Kendra Collier?
499
00:19:14,245 --> 00:19:15,683
Name rings a bell.
500
00:19:16,091 --> 00:19:18,968
Uh, maybe the military?
Maybe Afghanistan?
501
00:19:19,053 --> 00:19:20,824
Well, she's on
this revised witness list
502
00:19:20,908 --> 00:19:23,000
and is first up
to testify tomorrow.
503
00:19:23,877 --> 00:19:24,974
Sorry.
504
00:19:25,448 --> 00:19:28,621
In case it jogs your memory,
she is a critical care physician
505
00:19:28,706 --> 00:19:30,024
out of San Antonio?
506
00:19:30,753 --> 00:19:32,200
Never been
to San Antonio.
507
00:19:32,284 --> 00:19:33,277
Okay, how's this?
508
00:19:33,362 --> 00:19:35,636
From 2004 to
2009, she worked
509
00:19:35,721 --> 00:19:37,944
at Landstuhl Regional
Medical Facility in Germany.
510
00:19:38,029 --> 00:19:40,270
Okay. Military doctor,
I got that part right,
511
00:19:40,355 --> 00:19:42,006
but I never served
in Germany.
512
00:19:42,108 --> 00:19:43,797
So you have no
clue why they're calling her
513
00:19:43,881 --> 00:19:45,014
to testify?
514
00:19:45,099 --> 00:19:48,194
Uh, San Antonio to New York City
is a pretty pricy plane ticket.
515
00:19:48,553 --> 00:19:49,913
There's got to be a reason
that they're willing
516
00:19:49,997 --> 00:19:51,390
to go to
so much trouble.
517
00:19:52,368 --> 00:19:54,279
I'm sorry.
I don't know who she is.
518
00:19:55,106 --> 00:19:57,834
Well, I guess we will
all find out tomorrow.
519
00:20:01,229 --> 00:20:02,662
We making a stop?
520
00:20:02,819 --> 00:20:04,944
I asked Benny to join us.
521
00:20:05,029 --> 00:20:06,654
He's gonna sit with me
in the gallery.
522
00:20:06,748 --> 00:20:09,350
I need an extra set
of eyes and ears.
523
00:20:13,194 --> 00:20:14,365
Morning, fellas.
524
00:20:14,467 --> 00:20:17,081
Well, isn't this
a nice surprise?
525
00:20:17,321 --> 00:20:19,390
I was just reading about
you in the newspaper here.
526
00:20:19,475 --> 00:20:20,596
At least I think it's you.
527
00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:22,452
The way they spelled
your name made it sound
528
00:20:22,537 --> 00:20:24,647
like you're a part of
somebody's digestive system.
529
00:20:24,858 --> 00:20:26,178
"Benny Colon."
530
00:20:28,488 --> 00:20:31,451
Seriously, man, congratulations.
You got my vote.
531
00:20:31,536 --> 00:20:34,394
Yeah, that's just 'cause
you want your old office back.
532
00:20:35,042 --> 00:20:37,037
So you made
the announcement last night?
533
00:20:37,262 --> 00:20:39,179
Not me, personally,
but yeah.
534
00:20:39,264 --> 00:20:40,826
It's finally out there.
535
00:20:41,135 --> 00:20:43,352
I think they were afraid
if they didn't announce it soon,
536
00:20:43,436 --> 00:20:45,578
I was going to change my mind.
537
00:20:45,662 --> 00:20:47,006
Dr. Collier,
538
00:20:47,091 --> 00:20:49,662
the defendant, Dr. Kinsey,
in her deposition, claims
539
00:20:49,747 --> 00:20:54,237
that she successfully deployed
a REBOA for over one hour
540
00:20:54,322 --> 00:20:58,546
in a Colonel Mark Winston during
her service in Afghanistan.
541
00:20:58,631 --> 00:21:00,288
Now, you were part
542
00:21:00,373 --> 00:21:02,023
of the treatment
team at Landstuhl
543
00:21:02,108 --> 00:21:04,248
- for that same soldier, correct?
- Correct.
544
00:21:04,332 --> 00:21:07,208
Can you tell us about
Colonel Winston's injuries?
545
00:21:07,717 --> 00:21:11,038
Winston's unit was hit with
an improvised explosive device
546
00:21:11,122 --> 00:21:12,431
in Afghanistan.
547
00:21:12,515 --> 00:21:14,476
He suffered massive
abdominal wounds
548
00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,305
and had to be transferred to
the Kandahar base for surgery,
549
00:21:17,389 --> 00:21:19,639
and then to us in Landstuhl
for further treatment.
550
00:21:19,869 --> 00:21:22,476
He survived the transports,
but died in our care
551
00:21:22,561 --> 00:21:23,659
eight days later.
552
00:21:23,743 --> 00:21:24,878
Oh, no...
553
00:21:25,139 --> 00:21:27,279
Were his wounds
just too severe?
554
00:21:27,364 --> 00:21:30,537
His wounds were very severe.
But that's not what killed him.
555
00:21:31,053 --> 00:21:33,256
Well, then, what did?
556
00:21:33,473 --> 00:21:35,478
Well, as you mentioned,
the medical team
557
00:21:35,563 --> 00:21:37,539
who performed the initial
transport in Afghanistan,
558
00:21:37,623 --> 00:21:39,678
the one supervised
by Dr. Kinsey,
559
00:21:39,763 --> 00:21:43,857
used a REBOA to keep the colonel
from hemorrhaging during flight.
560
00:21:44,105 --> 00:21:47,068
Unfortunately,
the transport took an hour,
561
00:21:47,223 --> 00:21:50,459
and that's a long time to
cut off someone's blood supply.
562
00:21:50,650 --> 00:21:53,194
So you're saying
it was the REBOA
563
00:21:53,279 --> 00:21:55,458
that led to Colonel Winston's
death?
564
00:21:55,593 --> 00:21:57,069
Essentially, yes.
565
00:21:57,154 --> 00:21:59,172
The REBOA pretty much
killed his legs,
566
00:21:59,257 --> 00:22:01,834
and Winston ultimately
died of sepsis.
567
00:22:01,919 --> 00:22:03,055
But this didn't happen
568
00:22:03,139 --> 00:22:05,358
in the case of
Ryan Watkins, did it?
569
00:22:05,443 --> 00:22:08,014
Same cause,
different complication.
570
00:22:08,302 --> 00:22:11,209
In Mr. Watkins' case,
it wasn't his legs,
571
00:22:11,443 --> 00:22:13,217
but the end result
was the same.
572
00:22:13,302 --> 00:22:17,299
So, in your professional
opinion, was it reasonable
573
00:22:17,384 --> 00:22:21,499
for Dr. Kinsey to assume that
she could successfully deploy
574
00:22:21,584 --> 00:22:24,833
a REBOA for such
a lengthy period of time
575
00:22:24,918 --> 00:22:27,669
in either Colonel Winston or,
for that matter,
576
00:22:27,754 --> 00:22:29,973
in the case of Ryan Watkins?
577
00:22:30,622 --> 00:22:31,739
No.
578
00:22:31,942 --> 00:22:34,904
You just can't keep it in
that long and expect it to work.
579
00:22:35,394 --> 00:22:36,942
No further questions.
580
00:22:37,294 --> 00:22:39,081
Your witness, Mr. Palmer.
581
00:22:39,166 --> 00:22:41,171
Ask the judge
for a short recess.
582
00:22:41,442 --> 00:22:43,391
I think the two of us
should confer with Benny.
583
00:22:43,614 --> 00:22:44,911
I got this.
584
00:22:46,958 --> 00:22:50,529
Okay, I just listened
to your testimony, Dr. Collier,
585
00:22:50,684 --> 00:22:53,473
and I have to tell you
I'm a little confused.
586
00:22:53,558 --> 00:22:54,918
Let me see if I can't
help you, then.
587
00:22:55,002 --> 00:22:57,778
Great. So, let's
start back at the beginning.
588
00:22:58,234 --> 00:23:00,065
A patient like Colonel Winston,
589
00:23:00,360 --> 00:23:02,653
all these abdominal wounds...
590
00:23:03,688 --> 00:23:06,653
There any way he's gonna survive
a 60-minute transport
591
00:23:06,738 --> 00:23:09,436
without some sort
of hemorrhage control?
592
00:23:11,429 --> 00:23:14,435
No.And without some sort
of hemorrhage control,
593
00:23:14,597 --> 00:23:17,429
how quickly is someone
in the colonel's condition
594
00:23:17,708 --> 00:23:20,989
likely to bleed out?
30 minutes?
595
00:23:22,793 --> 00:23:24,106
15 minutes?
596
00:23:26,762 --> 00:23:29,255
Would he have even
lasted five minutes?
597
00:23:31,001 --> 00:23:32,286
Less than five minutes.
598
00:23:32,371 --> 00:23:34,036
So the options were either
599
00:23:34,121 --> 00:23:36,169
let the patient die
on the helicopter,
600
00:23:36,254 --> 00:23:40,403
or deploy this REBOA
and get him to a facility
601
00:23:40,488 --> 00:23:43,208
where he could be treated
and possibly saved?
602
00:23:44,020 --> 00:23:45,278
Isn't that correct?
603
00:23:45,684 --> 00:23:47,880
Basically, yes.
So the REBOA
604
00:23:48,148 --> 00:23:50,255
bought him time.
605
00:23:50,908 --> 00:23:54,132
In fact, it bought him
eight days, didn't it?
606
00:23:54,217 --> 00:23:56,192
Because had it not
been used,
607
00:23:56,505 --> 00:23:57,778
he would have died on day one.
608
00:23:57,863 --> 00:23:59,192
Isn't that correct?
609
00:23:59,434 --> 00:24:00,598
Yes,
that would be correct.
610
00:24:00,683 --> 00:24:01,825
So let me ask you
a question.
611
00:24:01,910 --> 00:24:03,481
During the time
that you were
612
00:24:03,599 --> 00:24:05,528
treating the colonel
in Landstuhl,
613
00:24:05,738 --> 00:24:08,265
did his family
come to see him?
614
00:24:08,350 --> 00:24:10,419
His wife, his son?
615
00:24:11,069 --> 00:24:12,813
Yes, I believe they did.
616
00:24:13,069 --> 00:24:16,208
So the REBOA,
the dreaded REBOA,
617
00:24:16,715 --> 00:24:20,331
actually allowed the colonel
to have eight more days
618
00:24:20,416 --> 00:24:23,528
to spend with his family
and to say goodbye to them?
619
00:24:24,574 --> 00:24:25,795
Isn't that correct?
620
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:27,723
Yes.
621
00:24:27,929 --> 00:24:29,364
I suppose it did.
622
00:24:30,340 --> 00:24:32,083
Sounds like Dr. Kinsey
623
00:24:32,168 --> 00:24:34,333
- made the right choice to me.
- Objection!
624
00:24:34,418 --> 00:24:35,901
Counsel is testifying.
625
00:24:36,134 --> 00:24:37,312
Objection sustained.
626
00:24:37,397 --> 00:24:39,583
The jury will ignore
counsel's last question.
627
00:24:39,898 --> 00:24:42,895
I do apologize, Your Honor.
No further questions.
628
00:24:43,848 --> 00:24:47,950
Gosh, I knew him when he used to
tell clients what color shirts
629
00:24:48,034 --> 00:24:49,934
to wear to their depositions.
630
00:24:51,239 --> 00:24:53,856
Very impressive
cross-examination, Chunk.
631
00:24:53,941 --> 00:24:55,095
Thank you.
632
00:24:55,180 --> 00:24:56,950
I'm glad you think so,
Counselor.
633
00:24:57,387 --> 00:25:01,292
Mr. Palmer, the next time I tell
you to ask for a short recess,
634
00:25:01,493 --> 00:25:03,280
ask for a short recess.
635
00:25:03,692 --> 00:25:05,098
Bull, the man did great.
636
00:25:05,183 --> 00:25:06,568
And then we will
go out into the hall,
637
00:25:06,652 --> 00:25:08,919
you will share your thoughts,
I will share my thoughts,
638
00:25:09,017 --> 00:25:10,935
and Mr. Col�n, who is not yet
the city's D.A.,
639
00:25:11,020 --> 00:25:12,329
will offer his
point of view,
640
00:25:12,414 --> 00:25:14,692
and then I will decide
what we are going to do.
641
00:25:15,106 --> 00:25:17,106
Do we all understand
each other?
642
00:25:18,786 --> 00:25:20,676
Well, I understand
what you're saying,
643
00:25:20,761 --> 00:25:22,489
but I don't know why
you're saying it.
644
00:25:22,574 --> 00:25:24,426
Because you got lucky,
Chunk.
645
00:25:25,052 --> 00:25:26,970
We walked into court today
knowing very little
646
00:25:27,055 --> 00:25:28,190
about that doctor.
647
00:25:28,360 --> 00:25:30,365
We didn't even know
why she was testifying.
648
00:25:30,471 --> 00:25:32,474
She could have just as easily
answered your question
649
00:25:32,558 --> 00:25:35,260
that it was her medical skill
that kept that man alive
650
00:25:35,345 --> 00:25:37,088
for eight days,
and it would have been 20
651
00:25:37,173 --> 00:25:38,874
had our client
not used a REBOA.
652
00:25:39,100 --> 00:25:41,279
But she didn't say
any of that, did she?
653
00:25:41,364 --> 00:25:42,970
Don't confuse luck
with skill.
654
00:25:43,358 --> 00:25:44,580
I'm not confused.
655
00:25:44,665 --> 00:25:46,009
I took a shot
and it paid off.
656
00:25:46,094 --> 00:25:48,197
Well, we don't take shots
with other people's lives
657
00:25:48,282 --> 00:25:50,473
and livelihoods,
and we don't ask questions
658
00:25:50,558 --> 00:25:51,767
we don't know
the answers to.
659
00:25:51,852 --> 00:25:54,292
And we certainly don't
ignore the opportunity
660
00:25:54,377 --> 00:25:57,166
to compare notes with two people
whose combined experience
661
00:25:57,251 --> 00:26:00,341
equals almost as much time
as you've been on the planet.
662
00:26:04,458 --> 00:26:06,494
He's running for office,
you're going rogue.
663
00:26:08,573 --> 00:26:09,884
Believe me,
I'd go to court
664
00:26:09,969 --> 00:26:11,486
and ask the questions
myself if I could.
665
00:26:20,041 --> 00:26:21,785
Sorry. Sorry, sorry.
666
00:26:22,072 --> 00:26:24,072
I couldn't get a cab.
I ended up taking the subway.
667
00:26:24,463 --> 00:26:26,042
And forgive me,
I never got a chance
668
00:26:26,127 --> 00:26:28,088
to tell you how impressive
you were yesterday,
669
00:26:28,173 --> 00:26:29,987
cross-examining that doctor
from San Antonio.
670
00:26:30,072 --> 00:26:32,767
Thank you.
Just got lucky.
671
00:26:32,994 --> 00:26:34,299
Whatever. It worked.
672
00:26:34,422 --> 00:26:36,158
So, what does today hold?
673
00:26:36,447 --> 00:26:38,190
That's what we're here
to ask you.
674
00:26:38,361 --> 00:26:40,932
The first witness up today
is Nurse Darna Bautista.
675
00:26:41,016 --> 00:26:43,486
Now, she worked with you
the night that Mr. Watkins died.
676
00:26:43,830 --> 00:26:45,284
Any idea
what she's gonna say?
677
00:26:46,353 --> 00:26:47,611
That I'm a bitch.
678
00:26:47,853 --> 00:26:49,658
She idolizes
Dr. Park.
679
00:26:49,931 --> 00:26:51,503
When I said I wasn't
gonna do things
680
00:26:51,588 --> 00:26:54,065
in exactly the way...
in exactly the order
681
00:26:54,150 --> 00:26:55,773
that Dr. Park indicated,
682
00:26:56,111 --> 00:26:57,831
she looked like she was
gonna have a stroke.
683
00:26:57,939 --> 00:27:00,049
When you say
she idolizes Dr. Park,
684
00:27:00,134 --> 00:27:00,987
what does that mean?
685
00:27:01,072 --> 00:27:02,814
They were friends?
Lovers?
686
00:27:03,025 --> 00:27:04,470
No, I don't think so.
687
00:27:04,555 --> 00:27:06,736
I just know she thinks
he walks on water.
688
00:27:07,651 --> 00:27:10,221
Nurse Bautista,
you were one of the ER nurses
689
00:27:10,306 --> 00:27:12,572
working at Mercy
the evening of the shooting?
690
00:27:12,656 --> 00:27:13,783
Yes, I was.
691
00:27:13,868 --> 00:27:16,128
I was providing care
for Ryan Watkins.
692
00:27:16,213 --> 00:27:18,230
First under the supervision
of Dr. Park,
693
00:27:18,314 --> 00:27:20,486
and then under the supervision
of Dr. Kinsey.
694
00:27:20,838 --> 00:27:23,627
And did you have occasion
to tell Dr. Kinsey
695
00:27:23,711 --> 00:27:25,106
anything about her patient?
696
00:27:25,190 --> 00:27:26,542
I did.
697
00:27:26,626 --> 00:27:28,632
I'm guessing you're
talking about
698
00:27:28,716 --> 00:27:30,111
normal medical information
699
00:27:30,195 --> 00:27:32,689
that a doctor might expect
a nurse to provide.
700
00:27:32,858 --> 00:27:34,142
Yes
701
00:27:34,517 --> 00:27:36,705
But I also shared
something else with her.
702
00:27:36,989 --> 00:27:39,025
Something I shouldn't
have shared.
703
00:27:39,767 --> 00:27:41,025
Something that wasn't true,
704
00:27:41,110 --> 00:27:42,838
although I didn't
know it at the time.
705
00:27:42,923 --> 00:27:44,232
What did she say to you?
706
00:27:44,317 --> 00:27:47,111
I honestly don't know.
Nothing beyond the usual.
707
00:27:47,244 --> 00:27:48,697
And what was that?
708
00:27:49,118 --> 00:27:52,955
You have to understand,
it was chaos that night.
709
00:27:53,218 --> 00:27:55,611
There was all kinds of
misinformation flying around.
710
00:27:55,716 --> 00:27:57,678
At one point we heard
there were three gunmen.
711
00:27:57,763 --> 00:27:59,244
At another point,
somebody wrote a tweet
712
00:27:59,328 --> 00:28:01,166
that the shooting was
a terrorist operation.
713
00:28:01,251 --> 00:28:04,150
We understand how stressful
this situation
714
00:28:04,235 --> 00:28:06,512
must have been for you,
Ms. Bautista,
715
00:28:06,597 --> 00:28:08,297
but what is it
716
00:28:08,397 --> 00:28:09,964
you said to Dr. Kinsey?
717
00:28:11,149 --> 00:28:13,589
When EMS brought in Mr. Watkins
718
00:28:13,673 --> 00:28:15,541
into the ER that night...
719
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:21,580
I was led to believe that he,
um, Mr. Watkins...
720
00:28:22,853 --> 00:28:24,111
was the shooter.
721
00:28:25,244 --> 00:28:27,952
And you shared that
with Dr. Kinsey?
722
00:28:28,322 --> 00:28:29,548
Yes, I did.
723
00:28:29,696 --> 00:28:30,910
Obviously, I don't know if that
724
00:28:30,994 --> 00:28:33,220
had anything to do
with Dr. Kinsey's decision,
725
00:28:33,488 --> 00:28:35,431
but I know it would have
affected me
726
00:28:35,695 --> 00:28:36,798
if I had been
in her shoes.
727
00:28:36,883 --> 00:28:38,853
Objection.
The witness is speculating,
728
00:28:38,938 --> 00:28:40,093
offering her opinion.
729
00:28:40,178 --> 00:28:42,095
Sustained. Jury will ignore.
730
00:28:42,277 --> 00:28:45,925
So, Nurse
Bautista, in a situation like this,
731
00:28:46,010 --> 00:28:48,642
is it a doctor's job
to determine
732
00:28:48,727 --> 00:28:53,213
whose life is more valuable,
who deserves to be saved?
733
00:28:53,319 --> 00:28:56,935
Your Honor, opposing counsel is
soliciting the witness's opinion
734
00:28:57,066 --> 00:28:58,331
using different phrasing.
735
00:28:58,501 --> 00:29:00,288
Sustained.
Ms. Grossman,
736
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,291
the ice is paper-thin
where you're standing.
737
00:29:03,375 --> 00:29:04,611
You understand me?
738
00:29:04,696 --> 00:29:06,831
I do, Your Honor,
and I withdraw the question.
739
00:29:07,086 --> 00:29:08,656
No further questions.
740
00:29:08,772 --> 00:29:10,908
I promise you, I have no
recollection of anyone saying
741
00:29:10,992 --> 00:29:12,474
that any of the people
we were trying to save
742
00:29:12,558 --> 00:29:13,707
that night might have
been the shooter.
743
00:29:13,791 --> 00:29:15,042
I know, I know.
744
00:29:15,126 --> 00:29:16,713
Ask for a short recess.
745
00:29:19,408 --> 00:29:22,658
Okay, we basically
have two choices.
746
00:29:22,986 --> 00:29:25,618
We can go back in there
and say we have
747
00:29:26,033 --> 00:29:27,595
no more questions
for the nurse
748
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,845
and start our case by
putting on Dr. Kinsey.
749
00:29:29,930 --> 00:29:31,282
That's a horrible choice.
750
00:29:31,493 --> 00:29:33,151
Or we go back in there and
say we have no questions
751
00:29:33,235 --> 00:29:35,940
for the nurse
and rest our case as well,
752
00:29:36,025 --> 00:29:38,065
and stake everything
on closing arguments.
753
00:29:38,353 --> 00:29:41,345
Oh, my God,
so we're just... giving up?
754
00:29:41,593 --> 00:29:43,478
With all due respect,
Dr. Bull,
755
00:29:43,563 --> 00:29:45,260
but why wouldn't you want me
to go back in there
756
00:29:45,344 --> 00:29:46,478
and grill that nurse?
757
00:29:46,563 --> 00:29:48,423
Get her to admit that
she never said those things.
758
00:29:48,507 --> 00:29:49,668
And how are you
gonna do that?
759
00:29:50,494 --> 00:29:53,689
How are you going to prove
someone didn't say something?
760
00:29:53,877 --> 00:29:55,681
How are you gonna prove
a negative?
761
00:29:56,298 --> 00:29:58,085
It's just gonna be
her word against ours,
762
00:29:58,169 --> 00:30:00,522
and no one is accusing her of
having allowed someone to die.
763
00:30:00,606 --> 00:30:02,873
But we can't let that jury
think that
764
00:30:02,957 --> 00:30:04,959
what that nurse said
is the truth.
765
00:30:06,718 --> 00:30:08,853
That's why we're gonna put
Dr. Kinsey on the stand.
766
00:30:09,322 --> 00:30:11,881
You can deny
having heard it.
767
00:30:12,039 --> 00:30:13,141
And, yes,
768
00:30:13,226 --> 00:30:16,369
it will still be your word
against the nurse's,
769
00:30:16,767 --> 00:30:18,900
but at least we will have
answered the accusation.
770
00:30:19,147 --> 00:30:20,603
It will be on the record.
771
00:30:20,688 --> 00:30:22,899
And then we will get you
off the stand
772
00:30:22,984 --> 00:30:25,599
as quickly as possible and
move on to closing arguments.
773
00:30:25,684 --> 00:30:28,167
So, wait, there are
no other witnesses?
774
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,552
What about the people
I saved that night?
775
00:30:30,636 --> 00:30:32,037
- Their family members.
- No.
776
00:30:32,144 --> 00:30:34,939
The second we swear them in,
opposing counsel will challenge
777
00:30:35,024 --> 00:30:38,857
on the basis of relevance,
and we will lose.
778
00:30:38,990 --> 00:30:40,691
Because your ability
to help them
779
00:30:40,908 --> 00:30:44,009
isn't relevant to the question
of whether you were reckless
780
00:30:44,094 --> 00:30:46,270
in your treatment
of Mr. Watkins.
781
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,588
I'm sorry,
it just isn't.
782
00:30:50,596 --> 00:30:51,861
Dr. Kinsey,
783
00:30:51,986 --> 00:30:54,292
do you recall Nurse Bautista
telling you
784
00:30:54,377 --> 00:30:57,900
that Ryan Watkins, the man whose
life you were trying to save,
785
00:30:57,985 --> 00:31:00,381
was in fact the man
who killed 38 people
786
00:31:00,565 --> 00:31:03,548
at the "We Are All from
Somewhere Else" demonstration?
787
00:31:03,705 --> 00:31:07,642
No. I have no recollection
of that. None.
788
00:31:08,353 --> 00:31:11,506
And for what it's worth,
had she told me,
789
00:31:11,590 --> 00:31:14,161
it would have made no difference
in my decision-making
790
00:31:14,245 --> 00:31:16,548
with regard to Mr. Watkins'
care that night.
791
00:31:17,298 --> 00:31:18,993
It's my job to help people,
792
00:31:19,330 --> 00:31:20,767
not to judge them.
793
00:31:20,852 --> 00:31:24,468
So tell us, why'd you
do what you did?
794
00:31:25,286 --> 00:31:28,435
Why'd you defy your superior
and decide to work
795
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,220
on someone else first?
796
00:31:31,604 --> 00:31:33,217
Once Dr. Park left
797
00:31:33,302 --> 00:31:36,103
and I had a chance to examine
Mr. Watkins for myself,
798
00:31:37,353 --> 00:31:40,231
I realized,
he was really far gone.
799
00:31:40,650 --> 00:31:42,711
The likelihood of us
saving him that night
800
00:31:42,795 --> 00:31:45,494
in the OR was slim at best.
801
00:31:46,236 --> 00:31:48,848
It was also clear to me
that whatever we did,
802
00:31:48,932 --> 00:31:50,439
it was going to take hours.
803
00:31:51,097 --> 00:31:52,548
So when I saw
that young woman,
804
00:31:52,633 --> 00:31:55,422
and realized
with about a half an hour
805
00:31:56,291 --> 00:31:59,002
I could get her to a place
where she could pull through...
806
00:32:01,947 --> 00:32:03,447
I... I had no choice.
807
00:32:04,714 --> 00:32:08,736
And what did Dr. Park say
later on that night
808
00:32:08,821 --> 00:32:11,298
when he found out that
Mr. Watkins didn't make it?
809
00:32:12,490 --> 00:32:15,395
I actually didn't see Dr. Park
the rest of the night.
810
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,963
I mean, there were literally
hundreds of people
811
00:32:18,048 --> 00:32:20,494
seeking treatment;
I was pretty much on my own.
812
00:32:20,579 --> 00:32:22,279
So working on your own,
813
00:32:22,661 --> 00:32:24,213
without any supervision,
814
00:32:24,997 --> 00:32:28,603
how many people did you
personally save that night?
815
00:32:29,963 --> 00:32:32,892
I... I'm not really sure
how you would define "saved."
816
00:32:32,977 --> 00:32:35,861
How many people would have died
that night
817
00:32:35,968 --> 00:32:37,625
without you
having treated them?
818
00:32:38,494 --> 00:32:40,791
At least five
that I'm aware of.
819
00:32:41,931 --> 00:32:43,207
Five.
820
00:32:44,447 --> 00:32:45,992
No further questions,
Your Honor.
821
00:32:46,314 --> 00:32:47,330
Very well.
822
00:32:47,415 --> 00:32:50,203
Does the plaintiff have
any questions for the witness?
823
00:32:50,288 --> 00:32:51,923
I do, Your Honor.
824
00:32:53,001 --> 00:32:54,166
Just one.
825
00:32:54,783 --> 00:32:56,089
So...
826
00:32:56,392 --> 00:33:00,236
you believe that you
saved five lives that night?
827
00:33:02,127 --> 00:33:04,611
And how many do you believe
you lost?
828
00:33:04,877 --> 00:33:06,369
Objection!
829
00:33:06,461 --> 00:33:07,877
Asked and answered.
830
00:33:08,463 --> 00:33:11,158
Never mind.
I withdraw the question.
831
00:33:15,986 --> 00:33:18,817
On August 25th, as
hundreds of people
832
00:33:18,901 --> 00:33:20,970
prepared to defy
the COVID virus
833
00:33:21,055 --> 00:33:23,057
and stage a mass protest
of our government's
834
00:33:23,142 --> 00:33:25,846
policies towards people
born in other countries
835
00:33:25,931 --> 00:33:27,541
who dream of better
lives in America...
836
00:33:27,642 --> 00:33:29,369
I think you're gonna
turn the jury off.
837
00:33:29,454 --> 00:33:30,633
These images are
so disturbing,
838
00:33:30,717 --> 00:33:32,917
I can't even hear what Chunk
is saying.
839
00:33:33,056 --> 00:33:34,496
- On these shores...
- Chunk.
840
00:33:34,611 --> 00:33:38,510
Marissa is worried that
the images are too violent,
841
00:33:38,595 --> 00:33:39,979
that they're gonna
turn the jury off.
842
00:33:40,063 --> 00:33:41,205
Well, I disagree.
843
00:33:42,541 --> 00:33:45,018
The more graphic, the more
in your face, the better.
844
00:33:45,220 --> 00:33:46,715
See, you're trying to
make the jury understand
845
00:33:46,799 --> 00:33:48,884
what it must have been
like for Dr. Kinsey,
846
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:50,719
standing in the middle
of all that,
847
00:33:50,803 --> 00:33:53,150
trying to save as many lives
as possible.
848
00:33:53,607 --> 00:33:55,401
Do you do what
you're told
849
00:33:55,486 --> 00:33:57,204
or do you do what
you know is right?
850
00:33:57,423 --> 00:33:59,640
- I second that.
- Yeah, but you're
851
00:33:59,725 --> 00:34:01,054
ex-law enforcement.
852
00:34:01,139 --> 00:34:02,524
You've seen a lot of blood
and guts in your life.
853
00:34:02,608 --> 00:34:04,577
I mean, we've got
a nursery school teacher
854
00:34:04,662 --> 00:34:07,022
- on the jury. A seminary student...
- Wait. Wait a minute.
855
00:34:08,936 --> 00:34:11,622
Taylor, back it up
about 30 seconds.
856
00:34:15,566 --> 00:34:17,651
Okay, okay.
Stop it right there.
857
00:34:18,525 --> 00:34:21,339
Isn't this the guy who
testified against our client?
858
00:34:21,660 --> 00:34:24,754
Told our client to operate
on Ryan Watkins first?
859
00:34:24,839 --> 00:34:26,215
Her direct superior?
860
00:34:26,300 --> 00:34:27,894
Yeah, that's him.
That's Dr. Park.
861
00:34:27,979 --> 00:34:30,456
Watch what he does.
Unfreeze it, Taylor.
862
00:34:35,853 --> 00:34:37,393
Oh, freeze that.
863
00:34:37,980 --> 00:34:39,409
Weird thing to do.
864
00:34:39,494 --> 00:34:40,847
Especially in the
middle of COVID.
865
00:34:40,993 --> 00:34:42,206
He knows her.
866
00:34:43,069 --> 00:34:44,480
8:28 in the evening.
867
00:34:44,565 --> 00:34:47,179
About ten minutes
after Dr. Kinsey arrived.
868
00:34:47,470 --> 00:34:50,647
And this is the patient that
Dr. Park took to the OR
869
00:34:50,732 --> 00:34:53,316
when he told Dr. Kinsey
to take care of Ryan.
870
00:34:55,318 --> 00:34:56,393
Okay.
871
00:34:56,485 --> 00:34:57,505
I'm-I'm lost.
872
00:34:57,590 --> 00:34:58,702
That's two of us.
873
00:34:58,787 --> 00:35:00,123
What are you guys
getting at?
874
00:35:00,208 --> 00:35:02,733
Well, we always said this was
a case about lifeboat ethics,
875
00:35:02,818 --> 00:35:05,834
we just didn't know there was
a whole other boat involved.
876
00:35:09,513 --> 00:35:11,234
Between now
and tomorrow morning,
877
00:35:11,318 --> 00:35:13,055
I need you to find out
everything that you can
878
00:35:13,139 --> 00:35:14,701
about that woman
on the gurney.
879
00:35:15,584 --> 00:35:17,633
I'll be damned if I go back
into that courtroom
880
00:35:17,803 --> 00:35:20,414
and ask a question I don't
already know the answer to.
881
00:35:22,275 --> 00:35:23,584
Your Honor,
882
00:35:23,669 --> 00:35:24,803
with your permission...
883
00:35:24,888 --> 00:35:27,091
I know that we already
rested our case...
884
00:35:27,248 --> 00:35:29,272
But before we begin
closing arguments,
885
00:35:29,357 --> 00:35:30,452
the defense would
like to call
886
00:35:30,536 --> 00:35:32,177
one last witness.
Actually,
887
00:35:32,262 --> 00:35:33,527
we would like to recall
888
00:35:33,737 --> 00:35:35,133
one last witness.
889
00:35:35,466 --> 00:35:37,919
If Dr. Park could
take the stand.
890
00:35:38,230 --> 00:35:39,873
Dr. Park, I
appreciate you
891
00:35:39,958 --> 00:35:42,302
coming in last minute
to testify in court today.
892
00:35:43,716 --> 00:35:45,982
Now, I have to
be honest with you,
893
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:47,334
I need your help.
894
00:35:47,866 --> 00:35:52,047
I've actually never served on a
medical malpractice case before.
895
00:35:52,272 --> 00:35:53,711
And I'd be dishonest
896
00:35:53,795 --> 00:35:55,539
with you if I told you
that I had
897
00:35:55,623 --> 00:35:57,701
any understanding
whatsoever
898
00:35:57,786 --> 00:35:59,295
of medical ethics.
899
00:35:59,425 --> 00:36:00,904
How it all works.
900
00:36:01,063 --> 00:36:02,787
What it means.
Now, you,
901
00:36:02,872 --> 00:36:05,560
as the head surgeon
at Mercy Hospital,
902
00:36:06,193 --> 00:36:09,202
this is something you know
a lot about, am I right?
903
00:36:09,895 --> 00:36:12,303
Actually, I've written
a number of papers,
904
00:36:12,570 --> 00:36:15,881
presided over a number of
seminars on the topic, yes.
905
00:36:16,035 --> 00:36:16,998
So...
906
00:36:17,083 --> 00:36:18,513
baseline question.
907
00:36:19,349 --> 00:36:23,045
What happens when doctors
let their personal feelings
908
00:36:23,178 --> 00:36:25,485
get in the way
of treating a patient?
909
00:36:26,798 --> 00:36:29,195
Well, all kinds of
bad things can happen.
910
00:36:29,310 --> 00:36:31,402
Physicians have been known
to freeze,
911
00:36:31,487 --> 00:36:33,449
to second-guess themselves.
912
00:36:33,904 --> 00:36:38,713
But I guess the biggest concern
you see and hear about
913
00:36:38,797 --> 00:36:40,932
is doctors making bad calls
914
00:36:41,016 --> 00:36:42,543
because they're not
thinking clearly.
915
00:36:42,627 --> 00:36:44,529
They're not thinking
critically.
916
00:36:45,029 --> 00:36:46,099
Thank you.
917
00:36:46,390 --> 00:36:47,525
Thank you, Dr. Park.
918
00:36:47,610 --> 00:36:49,935
Thanks for clearing that up
for me.
919
00:36:50,678 --> 00:36:51,940
Oh.
920
00:36:53,780 --> 00:36:57,404
Actually, just one last thing.
921
00:36:58,215 --> 00:37:02,092
When they brought
Ryan Watkins in that night,
922
00:37:02,348 --> 00:37:04,828
how many patients did they
bring in with him?
923
00:37:06,910 --> 00:37:08,654
Including Ryan, three.
924
00:37:08,903 --> 00:37:10,810
- He and two others
- .Okay.
925
00:37:11,113 --> 00:37:13,509
So we know that you
told Dr. Kinsey
926
00:37:13,594 --> 00:37:16,013
to operate
on Ryan Watkins first.
927
00:37:16,761 --> 00:37:18,853
Now, that person she
actually chose to treat,
928
00:37:18,938 --> 00:37:20,232
did she come in
with Ryan?
929
00:37:20,373 --> 00:37:21,423
Yes.
930
00:37:21,508 --> 00:37:22,724
And what about
the third?
931
00:37:22,809 --> 00:37:25,464
Did we ever hear about
what happened to the third?
932
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,571
I took her up to the OR
for immediate surgery.
933
00:37:29,656 --> 00:37:30,878
I see.
934
00:37:30,963 --> 00:37:33,490
And-and what was the extent
of her injuries?
935
00:37:33,865 --> 00:37:35,678
She had been shot
in the shoulder.
936
00:37:35,786 --> 00:37:38,009
And would you
say that her injuries were
937
00:37:38,217 --> 00:37:40,467
more urgent than
the abdominal gunshot wound
938
00:37:40,552 --> 00:37:42,557
suffered by Ryan Watkins?
939
00:37:42,817 --> 00:37:47,045
Or the hemopneumothorax
that Dr. Kinsey treated?
940
00:37:51,646 --> 00:37:52,868
Dr. Park?
941
00:37:53,209 --> 00:37:55,138
I need you to
answer the question.
942
00:37:56,225 --> 00:37:58,967
No.
I would not say her injuries
943
00:37:59,138 --> 00:38:01,256
were more urgent
than those sustained
944
00:38:01,341 --> 00:38:03,346
by the two patients
you asked me about.
945
00:38:03,838 --> 00:38:05,076
That's odd.
946
00:38:05,288 --> 00:38:08,468
So if her injuries were
less than severe,
947
00:38:08,553 --> 00:38:11,631
why did you decide
to operate on her first?
948
00:38:16,381 --> 00:38:19,209
Dr. Park, did you know
the patient that you worked on?
949
00:38:21,827 --> 00:38:22,872
Yes.
950
00:38:23,943 --> 00:38:25,162
Personally?
951
00:38:25,467 --> 00:38:26,816
Yes.
952
00:38:30,354 --> 00:38:34,709
She's Nurse Bautista's
20-year-old daughter.
953
00:38:37,438 --> 00:38:38,881
My goddaughter.
954
00:38:40,649 --> 00:38:42,982
So is that why you
treated her first?
955
00:38:45,636 --> 00:38:47,511
If you had not
known that patient,
956
00:38:47,596 --> 00:38:50,080
if you had not let
this affect you,
957
00:38:50,165 --> 00:38:52,863
who would you have taken up
to that operating room?
958
00:38:55,296 --> 00:38:56,920
Ryan Watkins.
959
00:38:58,924 --> 00:39:00,881
So if there was
960
00:39:01,461 --> 00:39:03,683
an error in judgment
that night,
961
00:39:03,768 --> 00:39:06,555
it was not
Dr. Kinsey's,
962
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,279
was it?
963
00:39:08,455 --> 00:39:10,162
No. It was not.
964
00:39:15,579 --> 00:39:17,951
I told you he was
the right man for the job.
965
00:39:24,524 --> 00:39:26,178
Can you stop all that racket?
966
00:39:26,438 --> 00:39:28,878
Some of us are in the midst of
our own private euphorias
967
00:39:28,963 --> 00:39:32,185
and you're ruining it with the
sound of all this manual labor.
968
00:39:32,270 --> 00:39:33,400
Well, well, well.
969
00:39:33,498 --> 00:39:35,081
If it isn't
Clarence Darrow.
970
00:39:36,287 --> 00:39:38,761
Hey.
Congratulations again.
971
00:39:38,846 --> 00:39:39,974
You killed it today.
972
00:39:40,059 --> 00:39:41,349
I did.
973
00:39:41,504 --> 00:39:42,748
Yeah.
974
00:39:42,951 --> 00:39:45,826
What brings you out on this
cold and wintery night?
975
00:39:46,254 --> 00:39:47,966
Couldn't sleep.
976
00:39:48,434 --> 00:39:51,049
I'd close my eyes
and I'd keep seeing
977
00:39:51,172 --> 00:39:53,099
the jury handing down
that verdict.
978
00:39:53,490 --> 00:39:54,929
That look of satisfaction
979
00:39:55,035 --> 00:39:57,083
and pride on Bull's face.
980
00:39:57,459 --> 00:39:59,661
The gratitude
on Dr. Kinsey's.
981
00:40:00,092 --> 00:40:03,533
I'm a grown man and it is
embarrassing to be this much
982
00:40:03,627 --> 00:40:05,853
in love with what you do
for a living, you know?
983
00:40:06,352 --> 00:40:10,830
Anyway, I, uh, I got out,
took a walk.
984
00:40:11,107 --> 00:40:12,346
Tried to clear my head.
985
00:40:12,434 --> 00:40:14,310
Walked across the bridge
when suddenly I realized,
986
00:40:14,394 --> 00:40:15,833
I might die of frostbite
987
00:40:16,057 --> 00:40:18,666
and I'm in desperate need
of a clean bathroom.
988
00:40:19,007 --> 00:40:20,697
Mention my name,
you get a good seat.
989
00:40:20,782 --> 00:40:21,978
I already did.
990
00:40:25,036 --> 00:40:28,588
You know, the other night
in Bull's SUV?
991
00:40:30,202 --> 00:40:31,416
I was ready to quit.
992
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,666
- Mm.
- I figured.
993
00:40:35,281 --> 00:40:37,416
I've been ready to quit
about a half a dozen times
994
00:40:37,501 --> 00:40:38,510
over the years.
995
00:40:38,595 --> 00:40:39,643
Really?
996
00:40:40,007 --> 00:40:41,267
What stopped you?
997
00:40:42,591 --> 00:40:44,010
I don't know.
998
00:40:44,584 --> 00:40:47,283
I get one foot
out the door,
999
00:40:47,489 --> 00:40:50,495
and then I realize
he was mostly right
1000
00:40:50,580 --> 00:40:54,307
about whatever it was he was
saying or talking about.
1001
00:40:54,911 --> 00:40:58,260
Plus, I think we make
each other smarter.
1002
00:40:58,676 --> 00:40:59,981
Better.
1003
00:41:01,548 --> 00:41:05,381
He's a really, really
smart dude, Chunk.
1004
00:41:05,645 --> 00:41:08,242
And I don't think he would
want you around
1005
00:41:08,327 --> 00:41:10,900
if he didn't think
you were a smart dude, too.
1006
00:41:14,135 --> 00:41:16,369
Congratulations again,
Chunk.
1007
00:41:16,454 --> 00:41:17,937
Now, if you'll excuse me,
1008
00:41:18,272 --> 00:41:20,190
I got to finish
my interior decorating
1009
00:41:20,275 --> 00:41:22,119
so I can go home
and get some sleep.
75056
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