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♪ Breichiau mam sy'n
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♪ Dynn amdanat
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♪ Cariad mam sy
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♪ Dan fy mron
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♪ Ni chaiff dim amharu'th gyntun
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♪ Ni wna undyn a thi gam ♪.
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Prime Minister Tony Blair
has led political
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tributes from a grateful nation...
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Hey, Dad.
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- Morning, sunshine. You up?
- Up? I'm out and about!
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Hm, pardon me, early riser.
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What is it, Dad?
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You said there was a match today.
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Oh, yeah.
Only a crappy school thing.
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Oh, well, I wanna come. Where is it?
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No, Dad, seriously,
it's not that type of match.
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No parents are gonna be there.
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You're wrong. I'll be there.
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...the Queen's 80th birthday
celebrations.
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Her sense of duty and service,
said Mr Blair...
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We set?
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Boss.
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Morning.
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Steve.
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How's the report coming?
ACPO are asking.
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Yeah, should be with you
by the end of play today.
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Any nasty surprises?
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I wish. It's gonna be a job
for me to find something to do.
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I have a hunch you'll manage.
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What's with the TV crew, Dave?
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Old news.
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Argh!
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Hey. What's up?
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So, er, Jack just texted
to say you're picking him up
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from the match.
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Yeah. Is there a problem?
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Well, back a month
and you're running the show.
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Look, just...
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just make sure you're there.
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Fran, I'll be there.
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Go on, Jack.
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So, I was thinking, we could have
a mid-week boys' night in.
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Take-away, DVD?
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I've cleared it with Mum.
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I said I'd stay over at Ryan's.
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Can't you stay at Ryan's
another night?
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I was thinking, how about you spend
one week with me,
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one week with your mum...?
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You know, that gives Mum and Mike
some space, too.
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Did Mum ask you to do this?
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No!
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But she's fine about it,
if you are.
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Can I think about it?
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Absolutely. Yeah.
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Look, go and stay at Ryan's tonight
and we'll chat.
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Come here.
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With so many recent successes
nationwide
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where DNA has played a key role
in solving cold cases,
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attention will inevitably turn to
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unsolved murders in Wales,
most notably the double murders
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of Peter and Gwenda Dixon
in Pembrokeshire.
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Jonathan Hill reports.
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Over 17 years ago,
the couple were blasted to death
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with a shotgun by an unknown killer
as they walked along here
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at the Coastal Path in Little Haven
in Pembrokeshire.
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Despite
a huge police investigation,
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no-one was ever charged
for the crime,
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and the Dixon family's long wait
for justice continues.
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A lot of people have said
they no longer feel comfortable
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coming to this path any more.
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They say
it no longer feels the same.
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We asked Dyfed Powys Police
for a comment
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but were told that no-one
was available.
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Old news?
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Meanwhile, the identity of John
and Gwenda Dixon's vicious killer
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remains unknown.
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How you settling in, Steve?
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It's like I never left.
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I found only one area
where we're exposed.
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No thorough forensic reviews
of serious crimes.
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Most notably Coastal Path.
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You saw the news.
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Yeah. What's the story?
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The unlikelihood
of finding anything new.
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The distress that would cause
the Dixon family.
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And, if we failed,
the delight the media would take
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in hauling us through the muck.
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A few years back, they branded us
"institutionally incompetent",
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and it stuck.
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Well, it's about time
we did something about that.
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I'd like to take a look at Coastal
Path, see if there's anything there.
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That OK with you?
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You don't need my permission.
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DCI George Jones was SIO on it.
Is he still about?
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Yeah, he is. But, Steve,
go easy on the old bloke.
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Thank you for seeing me, sir.
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A police dog found them.
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Six days
after they were reported missing.
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The maggots gave us
the time of death.
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After he murdered them, the attacker
stole Peter Dixon's wallet
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and wedding ring.
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It's not much of a reason
to end two lives, is it?
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Gwenda Dixon was sexually assaulted
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with her husband lying dead
not six feet away.
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He was a sick, sadistic bastard.
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He didn't need a reason.
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We did the best we could.
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I won't be made a scapegoat.
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That's not why I'm here, sir.
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So, four days after the murders,
a man walked into
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Pembroke Bespoke Jewellers
and sold a 22-carat gold band.
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The band matched the description of
Peter Dixon's stolen wedding ring.
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And the seller of the ring
had signed the receipt J Cooper.
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Now, on the basis of
this information,
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one of your team, a DC Dylan Rees?
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He questioned a John William Cooper
of 28 Rose Meadow Lane, Birchmede.
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Cooper said that the ring
was his own
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and that he sold it
because he needed the cash,
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and then his wife
confirmed the story.
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And then no further action
was taken.
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I'm curious to hear your view
on this.
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I sent a DC to do a DCI's job.
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I should've questioned Cooper
myself, but we...
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we were swamped.
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After the case was closed,
I learnt that Rees
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drank in the same pub as Cooper,
together.
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My view is that Cooper...
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used the fact
they knew each other.
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That Rees...
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was manipulated.
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- Where's Cooper now?
- Dyffryn Prison.
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He was sentenced to 16 years in 1998
for a string of, er...
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...burglaries and robberies.
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The investigation was codenamed
Huntsman.
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They interviewed Cooper,
but didn't get anything.
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16 years in 1998...
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If he's behaved himself,
he'll be up for parole.
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Where it happened
is just below Talbenny church.
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The spot is marked by a plaque.
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The Dixons' son and daughter
leave a wreath every year.
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You found us, then.
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So, you're doing a bit of digging
on John William Cooper?
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I am.
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Let's hope you have better luck
than we did.
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Operation Huntsman.
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This was us.
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There's a few odds and sods
stored elsewhere,
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but most of this was confiscated
from Cooper's home.
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The place was a pigsty.
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You arrested him for a string of
burglaries and robberies,
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but you also questioned him
about the murders at Coastal Path.
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- Why?
- His MO, sir.
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We did him for a robbery that was
a carbon copy of the Coastal Path.
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Robbery, tied-up victim, a shotgun.
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That's why we also questioned him
about Scoveston Park.
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20 years ago, Scoveston Park?
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21 years ago now.
December, '85.
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Theft, arson and double murder.
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- Brother and sister.
- Richard and Helen Thomas.
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The difference was that
the killer resorted to arson
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to cover his tracks.
He started a fire.
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He completely destroyed the place.
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Tough on evidence gathering.
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Yeah.
And even tougher on forensics.
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Did Cooper tell you anything
in the interviews?
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Nothing. When we mentioned
the murders, he just shut down.
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We had to move on.
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With all the lesser offences,
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we found almost every single
stolen item in his home.
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You charge them with
what you can prove.
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- Did you speak to the family?
- We did.
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Yeah, the wife gave us nothing.
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She was more frightened of him
than us.
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The son was useful.
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Yeah, he hated his dad, though.
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He wanted nothing to do with him.
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The reason your Disability
Allowance payment has been delayed
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is because
you changed your first name.
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Yeah, eight years ago,
by statutory declaration.
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I gave you people
a copy of the certificate!
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Look...
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I've had enough of this.
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Can you get a manager on the line,
please?
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I'm not authorised to do that, sir.
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- What's your first name, Mr Cooper?
- Andrew.
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Not Adrian, Andrew.
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Andrew Cooper.
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And...
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don't talk to me
like I'm an idiot.
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- Hold the line, please, sir.
- No, please don't...
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Please continue to
hold. Your call is important to us.
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- Hi, Dad.
- Oh, hello!
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Laundry.
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The machine at the salon's on the
blink and you're closer than Mum's.
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Well...
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...good to know
I'm useful for something.
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Payment.
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"Maximum hold."
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Thank you, love.
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The place is looking nice now.
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Very tidy.
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It'll do, until I find something
a bit more permanent.
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Do you want to stay,
have a bite to eat?
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Sorry.
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Late for the cinema.
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OK, love, enjoy yourself.
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Jack's really chuffed
that you're back.
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Is he?
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Don't try too hard.
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Just give him a bit of time.
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Right, OK.
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I'll pick up the stuff tomorrow.
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Hey...
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When did you become so mature?
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Ages ago.
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I'm a girl.
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John William Cooper.
Do you know him?
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Yeah, I've heard of him.
And Operation Huntsman, obviously.
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What would you say if I told you
his offending kit for the robberies
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was black gloves, balaclava
and shotgun?
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I'd say Nolton Hill Estate.
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The shotgun he used,
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recovered from a robbery gone wrong
in the village of Sardis.
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It was the customised shoulder strap
which got my attention.
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Sawn-off, modified stock.
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Jesus, Steve, is it him?
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Him who?
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What's going on?
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Do you remember Nolton Hill?
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Ten years ago.
A few months before I left.
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A masked man with a shotgun
attacked five teenagers
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near the Nolton Hill Estate.
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One of the girls was raped.
Another sexually assaulted.
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- It was never solved.
- I remember.
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DI Richards and myself
were called in to assist.
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The two boys knew about guns.
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Yeah, they used to do
a bit of rabbiting.
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Their description of the shotgun
that the attacker used
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exactly matched that gun.
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Hang on. Back up a bit, Steve.
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The last I heard,
you were looking at Coastal Path.
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I was.
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I am.
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And that led me to this.
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I'll ask you again, John,
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regarding the murders
of Peter and Gwenda Dixon
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on the morning
of Thursday 29th June, 1989,
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were you the person responsible?
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I am not a murderer.
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- Strong accent.
- South Pembrokeshire.
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Watch this...
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John, what about Scoveston Park?
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We have witnesses who say that
you knew Richard and Helen Thomas.
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My client is exercising
his right to silence.
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00:17:57,125 --> 00:17:59,858
John...
Come on, John, don't be like that.
256
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John.
257
00:18:02,405 --> 00:18:03,524
John!
258
00:18:04,645 --> 00:18:06,125
Steve...
259
00:18:06,165 --> 00:18:08,844
ever since Huntsman,
gossip has put Cooper in the frame
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00:18:08,845 --> 00:18:11,283
- for 101 offences.
- I'm talking about just three.
261
00:18:11,284 --> 00:18:14,964
Coastal Path, Scoveston Park,
Nolton Hill.
262
00:18:17,365 --> 00:18:19,484
I think he did them all.
263
00:18:52,365 --> 00:18:54,244
Not now, Jack.
264
00:19:00,365 --> 00:19:01,645
Here they come.
265
00:19:04,405 --> 00:19:07,044
How did Operation Huntsman
miss all this?
266
00:19:07,045 --> 00:19:08,243
They didn't, ma'am.
267
00:19:08,244 --> 00:19:10,443
They questioned Cooper
on all three cases
268
00:19:10,444 --> 00:19:12,244
and he just stayed mute.
269
00:19:12,284 --> 00:19:15,932
Plus, as I touched on earlier,
there was no hard evidence.
270
00:19:16,805 --> 00:19:18,683
Where's your hard evidence, Steve?
271
00:19:18,684 --> 00:19:21,444
It's waiting for us to find, ma'am.
272
00:19:21,484 --> 00:19:24,084
Thanks to Huntsman
and the original investigations,
273
00:19:24,085 --> 00:19:27,405
we have access to over 3,000
exhibits in storage.
274
00:19:27,444 --> 00:19:31,124
That's a potential treasure trove
of victim and perpetrator DNA.
275
00:19:31,125 --> 00:19:32,523
At the time of Huntsman,
276
00:19:32,524 --> 00:19:35,084
the science wasn't up to scratch
on age-degraded trace DNA.
277
00:19:35,085 --> 00:19:38,221
But as we know,
things have come a long way since.
278
00:19:38,885 --> 00:19:40,644
Say you get enough to charge him.
279
00:19:40,645 --> 00:19:44,324
Charging a man with the murders
of four adults is clear, simple.
280
00:19:44,325 --> 00:19:47,724
But you add five minors, rape,
sexual assault,
281
00:19:47,764 --> 00:19:49,804
the Crown's case could seem muddled.
282
00:19:49,805 --> 00:19:52,125
The CPS won't like that.
283
00:19:52,165 --> 00:19:55,364
Perhaps it would be wiser to confine
the review to the two murders.
284
00:19:55,365 --> 00:19:59,565
With respect, ma'am, I interviewed
the five victims as a WDC.
285
00:19:59,605 --> 00:20:02,605
And it made quite an impression
on me.
286
00:20:02,645 --> 00:20:05,084
So much so, I've kept tabs on them
over the years.
287
00:20:05,085 --> 00:20:07,443
Now, some are doing better
than others, but...
288
00:20:07,444 --> 00:20:10,125
all of them have been
scarred for life.
289
00:20:10,165 --> 00:20:12,523
They had their childhood
stolen from them that night.
290
00:20:12,524 --> 00:20:15,524
They deserve another chance
at justice.
291
00:20:15,565 --> 00:20:17,844
As do all the victims
and their families.
292
00:20:17,845 --> 00:20:19,884
All I'm saying is,
if you try to prove too much,
293
00:20:19,885 --> 00:20:22,045
you could lose everything.
294
00:20:22,085 --> 00:20:26,364
The killings at Scoveston Park and
Coastal Path are like two bricks.
295
00:20:26,365 --> 00:20:29,963
And the attacks on the kids is
the mortar that holds them together.
296
00:20:29,964 --> 00:20:32,484
It has elements of both cases.
297
00:20:32,524 --> 00:20:34,405
And, ma'am, erm...
298
00:20:34,444 --> 00:20:35,923
what are the odds that offences,
299
00:20:35,924 --> 00:20:38,964
which share so much similar
fact evidence,
300
00:20:39,004 --> 00:20:42,652
in such a small area,
were committed by more than one man?
301
00:20:45,605 --> 00:20:49,044
You know, if we reinvestigate
and it doesn't go our way,
302
00:20:49,045 --> 00:20:53,405
the media, the public, the families,
they'll crucify us.
303
00:20:53,444 --> 00:20:56,452
And if we don't go ahead,
it could be far worse.
304
00:20:56,724 --> 00:20:58,084
We've put a call into MAPPA.
305
00:20:58,085 --> 00:21:00,404
A date's been set
for his parole hearing.
306
00:21:00,405 --> 00:21:02,124
He could be out in three months.
307
00:21:02,125 --> 00:21:04,244
If he did do these murders,
308
00:21:04,284 --> 00:21:06,751
he is, by definition,
a serial killer.
309
00:21:07,565 --> 00:21:11,284
And given the opportunity,
men like him...
310
00:21:11,325 --> 00:21:13,005
they always kill again.
311
00:21:26,244 --> 00:21:27,645
Next.
312
00:21:52,165 --> 00:21:55,484
The next time you visit,
make an effort, will you?
313
00:21:57,565 --> 00:21:59,964
You look like an old woman.
314
00:22:00,004 --> 00:22:01,805
Adrian's back.
315
00:22:01,845 --> 00:22:03,045
What?
316
00:22:03,085 --> 00:22:04,923
I saw Shirley from Birchmede.
317
00:22:04,924 --> 00:22:07,804
Her daughter's a receptionist
in the hospital.
318
00:22:07,805 --> 00:22:10,203
Apparently,
he was walking with a stick.
319
00:22:10,204 --> 00:22:11,524
A stick?
320
00:22:11,565 --> 00:22:14,124
- Well, that's gotta be a scam.
- Well, that's what she said.
321
00:22:14,125 --> 00:22:16,124
Anyway, Adrian wasn't like that.
322
00:22:16,125 --> 00:22:17,484
He was a worker.
323
00:22:17,524 --> 00:22:19,404
What, you're defending him now,
are you, hm?
324
00:22:19,405 --> 00:22:21,684
He's dead to us.
325
00:22:36,244 --> 00:22:38,845
Sorry, Andrew. Did I hurt you?
326
00:22:38,885 --> 00:22:40,645
It wasn't you.
327
00:22:41,805 --> 00:22:44,404
It's all right, just relax,
I've got you.
328
00:23:15,885 --> 00:23:18,004
28 Rose Meadow Lane.
329
00:23:18,045 --> 00:23:20,712
Cooper's last home
before he went inside.
330
00:23:21,724 --> 00:23:24,003
Walk in any direction
from this point
331
00:23:24,004 --> 00:23:27,324
and you'll hit a home he targeted
between '83 and '96.
332
00:23:27,325 --> 00:23:29,003
It's the hub of the wheel.
333
00:23:29,004 --> 00:23:30,684
In this tiny area,
334
00:23:30,724 --> 00:23:34,204
34 burglaries and robberies,
one rape of a minor,
335
00:23:34,244 --> 00:23:36,511
one indecent assault of a minor...
336
00:23:37,085 --> 00:23:38,605
...and two murders.
337
00:23:41,125 --> 00:23:42,725
If walls could talk.
338
00:23:49,845 --> 00:23:51,565
Been back since?
339
00:23:51,605 --> 00:23:54,405
A few times to see how the kids
were doing.
340
00:23:59,444 --> 00:24:02,844
So, I was thinking a start-up team
of six, including us,
341
00:24:02,845 --> 00:24:04,124
cherry-picked from division.
342
00:24:04,125 --> 00:24:06,885
That way, we can keep things covert
343
00:24:06,924 --> 00:24:08,523
and it should be easier
on our budget.
344
00:24:08,524 --> 00:24:10,284
Mm, sounds like a plan.
345
00:24:11,605 --> 00:24:13,884
I really appreciate you bringing me
in on this, Steve.
346
00:24:13,885 --> 00:24:16,405
Your reputation brought you in.
347
00:24:16,444 --> 00:24:18,885
WDC to DI in ten years.
348
00:24:18,924 --> 00:24:20,924
Says Mr DS to Superintendent.
349
00:24:20,964 --> 00:24:22,405
London.
350
00:24:22,444 --> 00:24:24,244
The worst years of my life.
351
00:24:27,444 --> 00:24:30,708
Yeah, I was sorry to hear about
you and your missus.
352
00:24:30,964 --> 00:24:32,645
It is what it is.
353
00:24:49,264 --> 00:24:52,336
They were so close to home
when he attacked them.
354
00:24:53,185 --> 00:24:55,064
It looks so bloody ordinary.
355
00:24:59,585 --> 00:25:01,704
To Operation Ottawa.
356
00:25:05,145 --> 00:25:06,745
To Operation Ottawa.
357
00:26:08,467 --> 00:26:09,667
It's all right.
358
00:26:10,906 --> 00:26:12,866
This is home.
359
00:26:12,906 --> 00:26:14,786
The first rule of Operation Ottawa
360
00:26:14,787 --> 00:26:17,506
is you do not talk about
Operation Ottawa.
361
00:26:17,507 --> 00:26:19,706
The second rule of Operation Ottawa
is...?
362
00:26:19,707 --> 00:26:22,240
You do not talk about
Operation Ottawa.
363
00:26:22,507 --> 00:26:24,787
It's from Fight Club.
It's a film.
364
00:26:24,826 --> 00:26:27,666
Thank you, Barry Norman.
365
00:26:27,707 --> 00:26:32,066
We don't say a word to friends,
colleagues or family.
366
00:26:32,106 --> 00:26:34,586
Yeah, they'll get narky with us,
but it's the way it has to be.
367
00:26:34,587 --> 00:26:37,625
We don't want Cooper, or the media,
seeing us coming.
368
00:26:37,626 --> 00:26:39,106
Boss...
369
00:26:39,146 --> 00:26:41,866
Cold cases are 99% forensics.
370
00:26:41,906 --> 00:26:44,239
So, we need to do everything we can
371
00:26:44,267 --> 00:26:48,467
to help the scientists
find that DNA golden nugget,
372
00:26:48,507 --> 00:26:53,227
the DNA hit that unites culprit and
victim in the same time and place.
373
00:26:53,267 --> 00:26:54,506
Now, our forensics
374
00:26:54,507 --> 00:26:57,585
mustn't be tainted by any of
the work that's gone before.
375
00:26:57,586 --> 00:27:01,065
Previous investigations
had all their testing done in-house
376
00:27:01,066 --> 00:27:02,986
by the Forensic Science Service.
377
00:27:02,987 --> 00:27:05,146
But the science has moved on.
378
00:27:05,187 --> 00:27:07,425
We need a fresh pair of eyes
on this.
379
00:27:07,426 --> 00:27:08,547
Angela Gallop.
380
00:27:10,187 --> 00:27:11,746
She has been involved in
381
00:27:11,747 --> 00:27:13,986
some of the highest profile cases
of the last ten years.
382
00:27:13,987 --> 00:27:17,987
Lynette White, Stephen Lawrence,
Damilola Taylor.
383
00:27:18,027 --> 00:27:20,226
Dr Gallop and her team
are the best in the business.
384
00:27:20,227 --> 00:27:22,106
But they can only find
what they're looking for
385
00:27:22,107 --> 00:27:24,586
if they look in the right place.
And that's where we come in.
386
00:27:24,587 --> 00:27:26,466
We need to identify which items
of evidence
387
00:27:26,467 --> 00:27:30,906
are most likely to carry Cooper
and/or victim DNA in whatever form.
388
00:27:30,947 --> 00:27:33,507
Skin, hair, saliva, semen, blood.
389
00:27:33,547 --> 00:27:35,345
Now, in an ideal world,
there'd be no limit
390
00:27:35,346 --> 00:27:37,546
to the amount of exhibits
we could send for analysis.
391
00:27:37,547 --> 00:27:39,027
But...
392
00:27:39,066 --> 00:27:40,546
forensic work is not cheap.
393
00:27:40,547 --> 00:27:43,346
And our budget is finite.
394
00:27:43,386 --> 00:27:45,747
In short, whatever we send
395
00:27:45,787 --> 00:27:48,520
needs to be chosen
very fucking carefully.
396
00:27:53,626 --> 00:27:55,145
Our first case tonight
397
00:27:55,146 --> 00:27:57,786
is an extraordinary double murder
in South Wales.
398
00:27:57,787 --> 00:28:00,267
On the evening of 22nd December,
1985,
399
00:28:00,307 --> 00:28:02,905
Richard Thomas
and his sister, Helen Thomas,
400
00:28:02,906 --> 00:28:04,706
were attacked in their home
401
00:28:04,707 --> 00:28:06,706
at Scoveston Park,
three miles outside Milford.
402
00:28:06,707 --> 00:28:08,506
She was shot,
probably in her bedroom.
403
00:28:08,507 --> 00:28:10,546
And it was in that room
at about ten o'clock
404
00:28:10,547 --> 00:28:12,226
that the fire was started.
405
00:28:12,227 --> 00:28:15,905
Richard Thomas died of shotgun
wounds to the stomach and the head.
406
00:28:15,906 --> 00:28:20,307
Emergency services were called
at 1:15am on 23rd of December.
407
00:28:20,346 --> 00:28:23,385
Scene of Crime Officers entered
the property the following morning
408
00:28:23,386 --> 00:28:24,905
and found Helen Thomas' body
on a bed.
409
00:28:24,906 --> 00:28:26,706
It's believed
she was sexually assaulted.
410
00:28:26,707 --> 00:28:29,187
On the morning of June 29th, 1989,
411
00:28:29,227 --> 00:28:33,826
Peter and Gwenda Dixon were murdered
on the Pembrokeshire Coastal Path
412
00:28:33,866 --> 00:28:35,145
near Little Haven.
413
00:28:35,146 --> 00:28:38,186
The couple from Oxford
decided to take a short walk
414
00:28:38,187 --> 00:28:40,385
while they waited for their tent
to dry.
415
00:28:40,386 --> 00:28:43,546
Their bodies were found six days
later on the cliffs at Little Haven.
416
00:28:43,547 --> 00:28:47,066
Now, one of Wales
most spectacular beauty spots...
417
00:28:47,106 --> 00:28:52,586
Between 7:45pm and 8:45pm
on Wednesday 6th March, 1996,
418
00:28:52,626 --> 00:28:57,586
five children, aged between 15
and 16, were attacked in a field
419
00:28:57,626 --> 00:28:58,986
next to the Norton Hill Estate.
420
00:28:58,987 --> 00:29:01,947
On the evening of November 22nd,
1996,
421
00:29:01,987 --> 00:29:05,906
a bungalow in Sardis,
six miles from Milford, was burgled.
422
00:29:05,947 --> 00:29:09,666
The victim was confronted
by a man in a balaclava.
423
00:29:09,707 --> 00:29:11,226
They were approached
by a masked man.
424
00:29:11,227 --> 00:29:13,506
The children were threatened,
told to lie on the ground.
425
00:29:13,507 --> 00:29:16,506
One of the girls was raped,
another indecently assaulted.
426
00:29:16,507 --> 00:29:20,065
The victim managed to press a panic
alarm, causing the offender to flee,
427
00:29:20,066 --> 00:29:21,986
depositing personal items as he ran.
428
00:29:21,987 --> 00:29:26,426
These included stolen jewellery,
items of clothing, a balaclava,
429
00:29:26,467 --> 00:29:30,066
some black gloves
and his double-barrel shotgun.
430
00:29:30,106 --> 00:29:32,306
One of the boys was struck
in the head
431
00:29:32,307 --> 00:29:34,546
with a sawn-off
double-barrel shotgun.
432
00:29:34,547 --> 00:29:38,747
Then husband and wife
were shot at point-blank range.
433
00:29:38,787 --> 00:29:42,345
Forensic evidence suggests
Gwenda Dixon was sexually assaulted
434
00:29:42,346 --> 00:29:44,066
at this location here.
435
00:29:44,106 --> 00:29:46,786
Most of the evidence
was destroyed in the fire.
436
00:29:46,787 --> 00:29:49,786
They did manage to retrieve
a sock belonging to Mr Thomas
437
00:29:49,787 --> 00:29:51,786
and a few other items,
but that's it.
438
00:29:51,787 --> 00:29:54,987
- No DNA would have survived a fire like that.
- No.
439
00:29:55,027 --> 00:29:57,385
Just save our money for items
more likely to yield a hit.
440
00:29:57,386 --> 00:29:59,119
Coastal Path, Nolton Hill.
441
00:29:59,146 --> 00:30:00,346
Agreed.
442
00:30:00,386 --> 00:30:02,746
But we still need to recover
any Scoveston Park exhibits
443
00:30:02,747 --> 00:30:05,214
that would support
our take on his MO.
444
00:30:06,146 --> 00:30:07,386
Exactly.
445
00:30:07,426 --> 00:30:08,665
Tied-up victims.
446
00:30:08,666 --> 00:30:11,145
The rope used to bind
Helen Thomas' hands.
447
00:30:11,146 --> 00:30:13,747
Helen Thomas' bra was torn.
448
00:30:13,787 --> 00:30:15,626
That's sexual assault.
449
00:30:33,826 --> 00:30:34,947
MTJ/29.
450
00:30:34,987 --> 00:30:36,947
- Er, clothing.
- Yeah.
451
00:30:37,987 --> 00:30:39,747
CJE/2.
452
00:30:39,787 --> 00:30:41,065
Nolton Hill rainbow T-shirt.
453
00:30:41,066 --> 00:30:42,665
Give me ten patch tests
454
00:30:42,666 --> 00:30:45,105
on that, corresponding with
the victim's bruising.
455
00:30:45,106 --> 00:30:46,187
Yeah.
456
00:30:46,227 --> 00:30:48,386
- CJE/16.
- Coastal Path rope.
457
00:30:48,426 --> 00:30:50,187
Despite a massive search
458
00:30:50,227 --> 00:30:52,425
for a suspect seen using
the Dixons' cash card...
459
00:30:52,426 --> 00:30:54,946
Peter Dixon's bank card
was used to withdraw cash
460
00:30:54,947 --> 00:30:57,346
from NatWest cashpoint machines
461
00:30:57,386 --> 00:31:00,507
at Pembroke, Haverfordwest
and Carmarthen.
462
00:31:00,547 --> 00:31:02,065
A man wearing shorts
463
00:31:02,066 --> 00:31:04,786
was seen by a member of the public
making one of these withdrawals.
464
00:31:04,787 --> 00:31:08,547
From this siting, police made
this artist's impression.
465
00:31:14,507 --> 00:31:18,707
Exhibit reference number MTJ/14,
black balaclava.
466
00:31:18,747 --> 00:31:21,707
Exhibit reference PH/2,
double-barrel shotgun.
467
00:31:22,947 --> 00:31:24,947
- The Sardis gun, yeah?
- Yeah.
468
00:31:25,507 --> 00:31:28,466
12 patches tested.
Six on the barrel, six on the stock.
469
00:31:28,467 --> 00:31:33,146
In total, officers recovered 66
items in a fairly straight line
470
00:31:33,187 --> 00:31:37,987
from the bungalow in Sardis
to 28 Rose Meadow Lane.
471
00:31:39,547 --> 00:31:42,027
The home of John William Cooper.
472
00:31:58,187 --> 00:31:59,187
Dad?
473
00:32:00,267 --> 00:32:01,426
Hiya, Jack!
474
00:32:03,146 --> 00:32:06,787
- Have I come at a bad time?
- No, no, of course not.
475
00:32:06,826 --> 00:32:07,906
Well...
476
00:32:07,947 --> 00:32:09,947
let the male bonding commence.
477
00:32:11,146 --> 00:32:13,345
Does your mother know you're here?
478
00:32:13,346 --> 00:32:16,766
Yeah. You don't need to check, Dad,
she knows.
479
00:32:16,768 --> 00:32:19,322
You two haven't had a fight,
by any chance?
480
00:32:19,323 --> 00:32:21,346
Nothing major.
481
00:32:21,386 --> 00:32:22,747
All right.
482
00:32:22,787 --> 00:32:23,787
OK.
483
00:32:25,267 --> 00:32:28,000
Well, you know where it is.
Go and unpack.
484
00:32:44,227 --> 00:32:46,426
- Morning.
- Yeah, Steve.
485
00:32:46,467 --> 00:32:48,467
You need to re-route to HQ.
486
00:32:48,507 --> 00:32:50,747
We've got a fly in the ointment.
487
00:33:03,586 --> 00:33:05,027
Morning.
488
00:33:05,066 --> 00:33:06,706
Jonathan Hill for Steve Wilkins.
489
00:33:06,707 --> 00:33:08,574
- Just a moment.
- Thank you.
490
00:33:22,547 --> 00:33:23,987
Mr Hill.
491
00:33:24,027 --> 00:33:27,739
Detective Superintendent
Steve Wilkins, Deputy Head of CID.
492
00:33:28,547 --> 00:33:30,546
Comms referred your query to me.
493
00:33:30,547 --> 00:33:32,466
I understand
you want to make a programme
494
00:33:32,467 --> 00:33:34,534
about the Coastal Path murders.
495
00:33:35,227 --> 00:33:38,345
Erm, actually,
it's a bit more specific than that.
496
00:33:38,346 --> 00:33:40,065
Erm, I would like
to make a documentary
497
00:33:40,066 --> 00:33:42,987
exploring the possibility that...
498
00:33:43,027 --> 00:33:44,786
the double murders at Coastal Path
499
00:33:44,787 --> 00:33:48,179
might be linked to the ones
at Scoveston Park in 1985.
500
00:33:48,866 --> 00:33:50,933
That would be a problem for us.
501
00:33:51,866 --> 00:33:53,386
How do you mean?
502
00:33:53,426 --> 00:33:57,138
Mr Hill, what I'm about to tell you
cannot leave this room.
503
00:33:59,106 --> 00:34:03,586
I'm not in the habit of agreeing to
things before I know what they are.
504
00:34:03,747 --> 00:34:06,466
We are re-investigating
the two offences.
505
00:34:09,346 --> 00:34:11,825
Right, and how would
a documentary about the murders
506
00:34:11,826 --> 00:34:13,266
interfere with that?
507
00:34:13,267 --> 00:34:16,666
The killer, or killers,
think they've got away with murder.
508
00:34:16,667 --> 00:34:19,025
A news piece would rattle them,
make them vigilant.
509
00:34:19,026 --> 00:34:22,930
And that would be weeks of
covert police work down the toilet.
510
00:34:23,426 --> 00:34:24,747
So...
511
00:34:24,787 --> 00:34:26,466
I'll tell you what.
512
00:34:26,506 --> 00:34:28,706
If you agree to shelve
your proposed documentary,
513
00:34:28,707 --> 00:34:30,986
maintain a news blackout,
514
00:34:31,026 --> 00:34:33,227
when we're ready to go public,
515
00:34:33,267 --> 00:34:36,134
I will see to it that
you get the exclusive.
516
00:34:40,386 --> 00:34:41,587
OK.
517
00:34:42,707 --> 00:34:43,987
OK, it's a deal.
518
00:34:46,906 --> 00:34:48,545
I want Dyfed Powys Police
519
00:34:48,546 --> 00:34:52,147
and the media to stop fighting
and start collaborating.
520
00:34:52,187 --> 00:34:53,667
But...
521
00:34:53,707 --> 00:34:55,826
if you fuck me on this,
522
00:34:55,866 --> 00:35:00,067
I will see to it that every officer
from CID to peach-fuzz PC
523
00:35:00,107 --> 00:35:03,371
knows that Jonathan Hill
is not a man to be trusted.
524
00:35:10,742 --> 00:35:11,943
Boss...
525
00:35:15,262 --> 00:35:17,063
What the fuck are those?
526
00:35:17,103 --> 00:35:18,861
Professional portrait photos.
527
00:35:18,862 --> 00:35:20,983
They had them done in 1978
528
00:35:21,023 --> 00:35:24,095
after he won all that money
on the Spot The Ball.
529
00:35:26,423 --> 00:35:27,781
Those teeth don't look real.
530
00:35:27,782 --> 00:35:30,622
They're the only two photographs
Huntsman found in the whole house.
531
00:35:30,623 --> 00:35:32,821
I've done a lot of evidence recovery
in my time.
532
00:35:32,822 --> 00:35:34,422
Two photos in a family home?
533
00:35:34,423 --> 00:35:36,262
- It's not right.
- Mm.
534
00:35:36,302 --> 00:35:39,950
- Together, but apart.
- And their son nowhere to be seen.
535
00:35:57,182 --> 00:35:59,943
You've been the model prisoner,
Mr Cooper.
536
00:35:59,983 --> 00:36:02,181
How confident are you
that you can maintain
537
00:36:02,182 --> 00:36:05,663
this change for the better
in the outside world?
538
00:36:05,702 --> 00:36:07,463
100%, your honour.
539
00:36:07,503 --> 00:36:11,143
One of the offences
involved violence towards a woman.
540
00:36:11,182 --> 00:36:13,302
What can you say to reassure us
541
00:36:13,342 --> 00:36:16,662
that you no longer pose a threat to
the female members of the community?
542
00:36:16,663 --> 00:36:18,796
I'm not the same man that I was.
543
00:36:18,822 --> 00:36:21,289
The love and the loyalty
of my wife...
544
00:36:22,862 --> 00:36:24,663
...has helped me with that.
545
00:36:24,702 --> 00:36:27,102
Your wife has been
a regular visitor.
546
00:36:28,143 --> 00:36:31,423
But your son, Adrian,
hasn't visited you once.
547
00:36:33,382 --> 00:36:36,022
I haven't been the best father,
I'll admit that.
548
00:36:36,023 --> 00:36:39,671
Although, I do plan to
make it up to him, if he'll let me.
549
00:36:39,822 --> 00:36:42,222
I'm 62,
Adrian is nearly 40,
550
00:36:42,262 --> 00:36:43,423
so...
551
00:36:45,023 --> 00:36:48,479
Craig says that a man
is never too old to want his dad.
552
00:36:50,862 --> 00:36:52,862
AGJ/28.
553
00:36:52,902 --> 00:36:55,302
"AGJ/28"...
554
00:36:57,063 --> 00:36:59,782
- That's rejected.
- Negative for DNA.
555
00:36:59,822 --> 00:37:01,742
AGJ/39.
556
00:37:01,782 --> 00:37:03,423
"AGJ/39"...
557
00:37:05,943 --> 00:37:08,221
- That's rejected, too.
- Negative for DNA.
558
00:37:08,222 --> 00:37:11,622
Is it just me, or is this beginning
to look a bit bloody hopeless?
559
00:37:11,623 --> 00:37:13,262
DC Rowe...
560
00:37:13,302 --> 00:37:15,062
if we can't keep the faith,
561
00:37:15,063 --> 00:37:18,142
we have no right representing
the victims or their families.
562
00:37:18,143 --> 00:37:19,423
Sorry, boss.
563
00:37:19,463 --> 00:37:20,901
- Momentary lapse.
- All right.
564
00:37:20,902 --> 00:37:22,782
Yeah, thanks.
565
00:37:24,103 --> 00:37:26,262
- Boss...
- Yeah?
566
00:37:26,302 --> 00:37:28,423
Cooper's been granted parole.
567
00:37:28,463 --> 00:37:30,382
That was Dyffryn Prison.
568
00:37:30,423 --> 00:37:34,135
They've no idea who they're dealing
with. He's played them.
569
00:37:39,757 --> 00:37:45,318
John Cooper is the prime suspect
in a major crime review.
570
00:37:46,918 --> 00:37:51,117
I am requesting his release
on parole be revoked.
571
00:37:53,557 --> 00:37:55,757
Well, what's the crime?
572
00:37:55,798 --> 00:37:58,197
I can't share that information.
573
00:37:58,237 --> 00:38:01,477
Well, clearly, you don't have
a case, or you'd be charging him.
574
00:38:01,478 --> 00:38:05,878
Cooper is a dangerous man.
That is a matter of public record.
575
00:38:05,918 --> 00:38:07,798
People change.
576
00:38:07,838 --> 00:38:09,477
That's a matter of rehabilitation.
577
00:38:09,478 --> 00:38:13,677
I'm sure your client can be
very agreeable when it suits him.
578
00:38:13,717 --> 00:38:16,997
Your timing is not convenient,
Superintendent Wilkins.
579
00:38:16,998 --> 00:38:20,902
Can you at least give us a date
when you expect to charge him?
580
00:38:21,838 --> 00:38:22,997
Not at present.
581
00:38:22,998 --> 00:38:26,838
But in the meantime,
John's rights can just go hang?
582
00:38:26,878 --> 00:38:29,278
The safety of the public
comes first.
583
00:38:30,157 --> 00:38:32,090
I think we all agree on that.
584
00:38:56,197 --> 00:38:58,730
Although we've got
a stay of execution,
585
00:38:58,757 --> 00:39:02,341
he's guaranteed another
parole hearing within 3-6 months.
586
00:39:02,358 --> 00:39:05,037
If, by then, Dr Gallop and her team
still haven't found
587
00:39:05,038 --> 00:39:08,237
our golden nugget,
he'll be released.
588
00:39:08,277 --> 00:39:10,437
But we're not gonna let that happen.
589
00:39:10,438 --> 00:39:13,077
It's time to send Cooper a message.
590
00:39:16,597 --> 00:39:18,038
Good evening.
591
00:39:18,077 --> 00:39:20,797
Organisers say we're on the eve
of the biggest industrial dispute
592
00:39:20,798 --> 00:39:23,518
since the national strike of 1926.
593
00:39:23,557 --> 00:39:24,997
So, what's it all about,
594
00:39:24,998 --> 00:39:27,798
and how will it affect you
and your family?
595
00:39:32,998 --> 00:39:34,597
- Cheers.
- Cheers.
596
00:39:41,998 --> 00:39:43,636
We think one man
did all four murders
597
00:39:43,637 --> 00:39:46,197
and we need your help to catch him.
598
00:39:46,237 --> 00:39:47,837
I want to make a personal televised
599
00:39:47,838 --> 00:39:50,317
appeal for information
on the evening news.
600
00:39:50,318 --> 00:39:52,116
Do you think you'll get
anything useful?
601
00:39:52,117 --> 00:39:54,237
It's a smokescreen.
602
00:39:54,277 --> 00:39:55,957
We're going to interview
the suspect.
603
00:39:55,958 --> 00:39:59,276
I want to use the appeal
to send a message to him in advance.
604
00:39:59,277 --> 00:40:02,037
Plant something in his brain,
make him good and paranoid.
605
00:40:02,038 --> 00:40:04,276
We're reinvestigating the cases
and we...
606
00:40:04,277 --> 00:40:07,285
are confident we'll catch
the culprit using DNA.
607
00:40:08,157 --> 00:40:09,556
Have you found something?
608
00:40:09,557 --> 00:40:11,117
No.
609
00:40:11,157 --> 00:40:12,797
But he doesn't know that.
610
00:40:12,798 --> 00:40:15,317
And who better than the killer
to help us refine our search?
611
00:40:15,318 --> 00:40:17,757
Handled right, liars have a way of
612
00:40:17,798 --> 00:40:20,331
telling you more
than is good for them.
613
00:40:21,438 --> 00:40:23,636
OK, I'm on board,
but just one thing,
614
00:40:23,637 --> 00:40:25,957
how can you be sure he'll be
watching when you need him to?
615
00:40:25,958 --> 00:40:28,197
He's a creature of habit.
616
00:40:28,237 --> 00:40:32,438
I have it on good authority
that he never misses Wales Tonight.
617
00:40:45,038 --> 00:40:46,438
Ta.
618
00:40:48,838 --> 00:40:50,638
About the news thing, boss.
619
00:40:51,478 --> 00:40:54,236
Are you gonna mention the kids?
Nolton Hill?
620
00:40:54,237 --> 00:40:55,717
Definitely not.
621
00:40:56,958 --> 00:40:59,397
Why upset them
when we don't even know if the CPS
622
00:40:59,398 --> 00:41:02,198
will include the offence
on the indictment?
623
00:41:07,478 --> 00:41:11,126
There is someone who we should
give a heads-up to, though.
624
00:41:41,677 --> 00:41:43,544
- Who is it?
- Andrew Cooper?
625
00:41:44,637 --> 00:41:46,837
- Who wants to know?
- The police.
626
00:41:53,277 --> 00:41:54,597
ID.
627
00:41:59,157 --> 00:42:00,878
Thank you.
628
00:42:03,197 --> 00:42:05,918
You're not an easy man
to track down.
629
00:42:05,958 --> 00:42:09,030
We were looking for
an Adrian, not Andrew Cooper.
630
00:42:10,157 --> 00:42:11,517
I get that a lot.
631
00:42:11,518 --> 00:42:13,037
Why did you change your name?
632
00:42:15,557 --> 00:42:17,197
Why are you here?
633
00:42:18,398 --> 00:42:21,397
We thought we should let you know
that we are...
634
00:42:21,398 --> 00:42:23,716
investigating the possibility
that your father
635
00:42:23,717 --> 00:42:27,037
may have been involved in other,
more serious crimes.
636
00:42:27,038 --> 00:42:29,317
We're going to make a public appeal
for information.
637
00:42:29,318 --> 00:42:32,454
I don't like people referring to him
as my father.
638
00:42:34,358 --> 00:42:35,838
OK, I'm sorry.
639
00:42:35,878 --> 00:42:38,197
What would you prefer?
640
00:42:38,237 --> 00:42:39,518
His name.
641
00:42:41,597 --> 00:42:43,037
What other crimes?
642
00:42:44,518 --> 00:42:45,878
Four murders.
643
00:42:45,918 --> 00:42:48,237
Scoveston Park and Coastal Path.
644
00:42:51,438 --> 00:42:54,830
I'm not getting dragged back
into all that shit again.
645
00:42:55,157 --> 00:42:57,424
I told Huntsman everything I know.
646
00:43:00,757 --> 00:43:02,236
He's got his father's eyes.
647
00:43:02,237 --> 00:43:03,636
Yeah, I clocked that.
648
00:43:03,637 --> 00:43:05,957
Why do you think
he only changed his first name?
649
00:43:05,958 --> 00:43:08,156
If you wanna lie low,
you change your surname.
650
00:43:08,157 --> 00:43:10,156
Maybe it wasn't about lying low.
651
00:43:10,157 --> 00:43:14,125
He changed his name in 1998,
the same year Cooper was put away.
652
00:43:14,157 --> 00:43:16,116
Maybe it was about starting again.
653
00:43:16,117 --> 00:43:17,878
A new name, a new life.
654
00:43:17,918 --> 00:43:20,276
Doesn't look like
that's working out too well for him.
655
00:43:20,277 --> 00:43:23,477
- The poor guy's a wreck.
- And then we come along.
656
00:44:04,557 --> 00:44:06,438
- Are you OK?
- Yeah.
657
00:44:06,478 --> 00:44:07,478
Mm-hm.
658
00:44:09,398 --> 00:44:12,198
It's just you and me
having a conversation.
659
00:44:13,358 --> 00:44:14,518
Yeah.
660
00:44:15,518 --> 00:44:18,526
In front of a few hundred thousand
people, live.
661
00:44:23,237 --> 00:44:25,518
You know, in my first year at uni,
662
00:44:25,557 --> 00:44:28,477
me and some of my mates
went camping near here.
663
00:44:28,478 --> 00:44:31,486
It was July 1989.
It was just after the murders.
664
00:44:33,038 --> 00:44:35,597
We saw all the police activity.
665
00:44:35,637 --> 00:44:37,157
The wanted posters.
666
00:44:38,358 --> 00:44:39,478
It was scary.
667
00:44:41,318 --> 00:44:42,918
Fascinating as well.
668
00:44:44,478 --> 00:44:47,614
It's what made me want to become
a crime reporter.
669
00:44:49,958 --> 00:44:51,237
Good to go?
670
00:44:52,358 --> 00:44:54,038
- Let's do it.
- Yeah.
671
00:45:14,398 --> 00:45:16,357
Good evening.
We are live in Pembrokeshire,
672
00:45:16,358 --> 00:45:18,556
where there have been
dramatic developments
673
00:45:18,557 --> 00:45:20,997
in two of Wales's
most baffling crimes -
674
00:45:20,998 --> 00:45:23,477
the murders of Richard
and Helen Thomas,
675
00:45:23,478 --> 00:45:25,156
and Peter and Gwenda Dixon.
676
00:45:25,157 --> 00:45:26,958
And now, decades on,
677
00:45:26,998 --> 00:45:29,676
these two double murders
are being reinvestigated.
678
00:45:29,677 --> 00:45:31,716
Detective Superintendent
Steve Wilkins
679
00:45:31,717 --> 00:45:34,998
is the man leading
this reinvestigation.
680
00:45:35,038 --> 00:45:38,196
Developments in DNA analysis have
revolutionised cold case reviews.
681
00:45:38,197 --> 00:45:40,636
As a team, we have brought
these processes to bear
682
00:45:40,637 --> 00:45:42,116
on these two investigations
683
00:45:42,117 --> 00:45:44,757
and they have had
a significant impact.
684
00:45:44,798 --> 00:45:48,156
We believe that somebody watching
this programme tonight
685
00:45:48,157 --> 00:45:50,797
may know who is responsible
for these terrible crimes.
686
00:45:50,798 --> 00:45:52,196
And I'm appealing to them,
687
00:45:52,197 --> 00:45:54,397
for the sake of the victims
and their families,
688
00:45:54,398 --> 00:45:55,957
to please come forward.
689
00:45:55,958 --> 00:45:58,156
And do you think
it's the same local man
690
00:45:58,157 --> 00:45:59,877
responsible for all four murders?
691
00:45:59,878 --> 00:46:01,517
I do believe that, Jonathan.
692
00:46:01,518 --> 00:46:04,357
Thanks to the advances
in DNA forensic science,
693
00:46:04,358 --> 00:46:05,917
we are now
in a much stronger position
694
00:46:05,918 --> 00:46:08,051
to catch the person responsible.
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