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(THUNDER RUMBLING)
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(RAIN PATTERING)
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DR. THOMAS BURTON: Some peoplecall me a folklorist,
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sometimes a filmmaker.
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Some people call me
a closet anthropologist.
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I'm a retired professor,
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but still a student
of southern Appalachia, really.
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(CLICKING)
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DR. BURTON: The archives startedback in the late '60s.
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A colleague and I
studied folklore
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and talked folklore,
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and we wanted to preserve it.
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So that's how
the Archives of Appalachia
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was established.
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I find that in collecting
their life stories,
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traditions, and beliefs,
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it's, uh, really one way
of understanding
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our own history.
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This is oral history
and folklore.
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Appalachian folklore.
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♪ (QUIET MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
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With people that I've researched
and recorded,
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it gives them a little bit
of immortality.
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♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
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-(CRICKETS CHIRPING)
-(INDISTINCT CHATTER)
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In one case,
we made a documentary
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about mountain people
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and the tradition
of handling serpents.
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PREACHER: Now, we have, uh,three rattlesnakes,
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our guests tonight.
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I know that according
to what the scripture said
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in Saint Mark 16,
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was that they shall
take up serpents.
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Not many places left
where you can obey God
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in the fullest and then
without fear of reprisal.
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DR. BURTON: While we werefilming the service,
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one of those church members
was bitten.
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(INDISTINCT CLAMOR)
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What happened in that church
had a profound effect on me.
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(INDISTINCT CHATTER)
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PREACHER: In the name of Jesus!
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(SOUND DISTORTING)
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(WOMAN SCREAMS)
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(INDISTINCT CHATTER)
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PREACHER:
Lord, in Jesus's name...
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-The law is final.
-(WOMAN CHEERS)
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PREACHER: Yes, God.
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(WOMAN SPEAKING INDISTINCTLY)
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DR. BURTON:
That night was my initiation
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into serpent handling.
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And of course, I didn't know
that it would lead
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to over 40 years of studying
Pentecostal serpent handlers.
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But out of all
of my experiences,
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there is one that stands out
from all the rest.
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This story is a story
of the Serpent and the Spirit.
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♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
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♪ (MUSIC CONTINUES) ♪
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♪ (TENSE VIOLIN MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
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DAVID KENNAMER:
My name is David Kennamer,
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born and raised
here in Scottsboro.
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I'm a paramedic.
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And, uh, this is my partner,
Bobby, who is an EMT.
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He was my driver that night.
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Well, working on the ambulance,
you eat when you can.
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We was here at the Piggly Wiggly
when they gave us the call
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and that's when we said,
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"Well, we're not gonna
get to eat anytime soon."
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(LAUGHS)
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-(INDISTINCT RADIO CHATTER)
-(ENGINE STARTS)
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DAVID: We got the call,uh, to head out to Barbee Lane
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to a snake bite victim.
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(SIREN WAILING)
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(RADIO CHATTER)
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DAVID: At the time,we didn't know any more about it
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than a possible snake bite.
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BOBBY CARSON: We have gottencalls like this before,
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but when you get there,
there's nothing to it.
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(SIREN WAILING)
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DAVID: And as we got closer, uh,
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they told us to, uh,
go in Code One,
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which is with the lights
and sirens off.
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(SIREN STOPS)
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They didn't know exactly why,
but if the patient
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or whoever's calling you
tell you this,
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you need to listen to them.
There's a reason for this.
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And it was dark.
There's no streetlights.
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BOBBY: Nope.
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DAVID: So the only lights we hadwere what was on us.
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BOBBY: I don't like snakes.
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You don't come to me
with a snake.
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That'd be like
pointing a gun at me.
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(DAVID LAUGHS)
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♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
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DAVID: This lady was walking
towards us.
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(TIRES SCREECH)
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(DOGS BARKING)
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(OWL HOOTING)
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(BREATHING HEAVILY)
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It's a critical situation.
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(SIREN WAILING)
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It was black.
The skin was starting to die.
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That's when I got
real concerned
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because that gets
in your blood stream,
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it can go to your heart.
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We've gotta get this girl
over there in a hurry.
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(SIREN WAILING)
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JEANETTE GREEN: There werelots of strange things,
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lots of strange things.
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You never know
what's coming in.
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This snake bite was different.
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Uh, we didn't see
a lot of snake bites
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to the magnitude of, uh...
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the one that occurred
that night.
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(SIREN WAILING)
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DAVID: With us, we don't carryany antivenom.
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And now, this is for the doctors
to decide if they need it,
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what kind they need.
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JEANETTE:
We treated her, but you know,
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small county hospital,
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uh, we didn't have antivenom.
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DAVID: Then we load her back up
and I tell Bobby,
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"Get me to Birmingham."
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(SIREN WAILING)
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♪ (SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
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I can only get a limited
amount of information
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in the back of the ambulance.
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She described
a very gruesome story
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of her husband
trying to kill her.
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(THUNDER RUMBLING)
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♪ (SLOW MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
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CHIEF RALPH DAWE: Back then,
I was working as a patrolman.
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Been a police officer for...
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in March, it'll be 30 years.
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I was here two years,
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when this all happened.
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All I thought about was the pain
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and what was going
through her head mentally,
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you know,
whether she's gonna live or die
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and make it to the hospital
or not.
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And the idea that somebody...
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close to her...
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made her get bit.
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Allegedly.
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OFFICER: Drop the gun!
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(VOICES ECHOING)
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OFFICER: Drop it!
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CHIEF DAWE: Our officerspractice on different scenarios
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with making contact
with bad people.
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(GUNSHOTS)
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(LAUGHS)
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I've been in meth homes before
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that they actually had
pet rattlesnakes in the house.
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I've heard this story
since I was a kid.
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My dad was an investigator
at the sheriff's office
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when, uh, Chief Dawe--
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when this--
when this whole case went down.
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It's not a story
you hear every day,
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anywhere else in the world.
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Religion, relationships,
and murder.
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-Booze.
-And booze.
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Tie all four of those together,
and you've got a story,
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there's no question there.
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(RATTLING)
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REPORTER 1: Scottsboro policesay this five-foot-long
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poisonous rattlesnake
was used as a weapon.
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This snake and 15 others
are owned by Glenn Summerford.
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But earlier this week,
police say,
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Summerford used the snakes
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to assault his wife,
Darlene Summerford.
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♪ (SOMBER MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
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CLARENCE BOLTE: Well,I was the lead investigator.
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But as to whether that
qualifies me or not,
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I don't know.
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I was just a police officer
doing a job.
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Well I received a report
one morning about a...
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woman being bit
by a rattlesnake.
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-♪ (DELICATE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
-(DOG BARKING)
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We went out
to her husband's house.
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He gave us permission
to search his property.
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He carried us out there
to where they kept the snakes.
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He had them in a locked shed
or something.
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And he unlocked it,
and we went in,
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and in these cages...
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(INDISTINCT CHATTER)
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...is where the snakes were.
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That was the weapon
that was used in the crime.
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(CHATTER CONTINUES)
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And this is collected
as evidence.
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The snake became the evidence.
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MAN 1:
Bring this new box out here.
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MAN 2: All right.
Let me get this top down.
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MAN 1: (LAUGHING)
Yeah, please, get the top down.
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-(MAN 3 LAUGHS)
-(SNAKE RATTLING)
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MAN 1: Holy smoke.
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CLARENCE: The biggest one,a big diamondback.
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Big snake.
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(INDISTINCT CHATTER)
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CLARENCE:
They put this noose around him
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and took him out and yeah, he--
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he put up a fight.
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-(MAN 3 SHOUTS)
-SNAKE HISSES
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MAN 2: Get that sucker.
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(LAUGHTER)
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MAN 1: Holy-- Should get that
on him, yeah.
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Oh, mercy!
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(LAUGHTER)
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CLARENCE:
We confiscated all of them.
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MAN 2:
Think that's going pretty good.
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CLARENCE: Because all of themwere potential weapons
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that could be used.
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It's the first time I've ever
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had anything like that happen.
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And nothing else since.
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We got all the snakes,
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and then we went
inside the house
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and we searched
inside the house.
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Just about every room
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was disarranged.
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You know, I mean
there was chairs turned over,
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covers strowed around.
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I couldn't really determine
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if there had been
a fight or not,
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because of everything
just strowed around like it was.
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We didn't find any weapons
or anything of that nature.
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There was a purse,
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one of these bag-like purses
hanging on the--
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on the door.
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And it started moving.
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And I thought, "Now we're gonna
find a snake in there."
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-(RADIO CHATTER)
-♪ (MUSIC SWELLS DRAMATICALLY) ♪
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CLARENCE: A raccoonjumped out of the purse
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and ran off up the wall.
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Within a few days,
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Glenn Summerford was arrested,
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and they ended up charging him
with attempted murder
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and carried him into court.
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(DOOR CREAKING)
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CLARENCE: But your factsand your evidence
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is what makes your case.
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Your biggest thing you had
was her statement against him.
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"Well, he forced me with a gun
to do this,
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and I was bitten twice."
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And then him saying
she had gone out there
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to commit suicide.
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and they'd had an argument,
and he got drunk, passed out,
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and when he woke up,
she'd got bit by the snake.
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This hinged mainly
on the victim.
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So I was surprised
that we got in there.
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I didn't think the case
was that strong.
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THEO LOVE: Why did these peoplehave snakes?
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They handled them
in their religious service.
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There was some videos
collected as evidence.
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We turned them over
to the district attorney.
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♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
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(BIRDS CHIRPING)
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MAN 4: You need help?
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DARLENE SUMMERFORD:
...before you go in.
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(INDISTINCT CHATTER)
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They ain't started nothing.
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MAN 5: Now come on,
what you asking for?
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Everybody's in church.
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-MAN 6: Yeah, Lord.
-(SNAKE RATTLES)
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(INDISTINCT PRAYING)
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PREACHER: Praise you, Lord.
Thank you, Jesus.
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-Glory to God Jesus.
-♪ (INDISTINCT SINGING) ♪
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(SINGING) ♪ I believeThe more you wander... ♪
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(OVERLAPPING PREACHING
AND SINGING)
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(SINGING AND PREACHING CONTINUE)
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(HISSING)
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(PRAYING AND SINGING)
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♪ (INDISTINCT SINGING) ♪
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GLENN SUMMERFORD: Praise God,
praise God, praise God. Glory.
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(RADIO CHATTER)
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CHIEF DAWE: I think people
that live up on the mountain
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tend to take care
of their own problems.
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They don't-- they don't need
or want the policing
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that you would find
here in Scottsboro.
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Back then, you know,
people didn't realize
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that that element had moved
down here in the valley
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in Scottsboro and was,
you know, operating here.
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I don't think any person
in Scottsboro
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would like that to be
prevalent in their city.
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I think they're ashamed
of the whole idea
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of snake handling.
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You know,
a lot of people were like,
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"Well, we didn't know
they were here," you know?
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They didn't know.
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Until something bad happens.
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♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
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(INDISTINCT CHATTER)
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In opening arguments here
this afternoon,
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the prosecution painted
Glenn Summerford
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as a brutal, jealous husband
who tried to kill his wife
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using rattlesnakes
as the weapon.
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REPORTER 2:
To the defense,
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Darlene was a troubled woman
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trying to send her husband
to prison
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by fabricating a murder story
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based on the reptiles
with whom she was obsessed.
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GARY LACKEY: The evidencewill show that, uh,
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this lady is a snake handler
from way back,
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and that if she handled
any snakes and was bitten,
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she did it voluntarily
and no one forced her to.
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CHIEF DAWE:
He was trying to kill her.
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He was going to try to get away
with killing her
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by saying she got bit
by a snake accidentally.
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Jesus lives,
that's all I know to say.
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REPORTER 3: Glenn Summerfordwas tried for attempted murder.
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He tried to kill me.
I know that was what he done.
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He tried to kill me.
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What do the people
in the church think about this?
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They believe I just told
this whole story,
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and just made
this whole story up.
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PARISHIONER:
The man was put on trial
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not for what he did
but for what he stands for.
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For serpent handling.
The word of God.
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And it is the word of God.
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(SIGHS)
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I really don't know that much
about their religion.
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What they did at their church,
that's their business.
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She testified before the jury.
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On Friday, after she got bit,
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he wouldn't let her go
to the doctor.
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The following morning,
on Saturday,
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he carried her several places.
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Then after dark on Saturday,
he forced her hand down
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in that snake cage again,
and she was bit one more time.
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♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
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She says one thing
and he says something else,
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so did it occur?
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I can't tell you yes or no.
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Because it wasn't my decision
to decide.
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Go to the court if you want
to know what happened.
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♪ (SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
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(DOOR CREAKS OPEN)
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TALITHA LOVIN: These are boxes
going back at least 30 years
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of all the cases
in Jackson County.
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00:19:53,125 --> 00:19:55,709
Back before steno machines
went digital,
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they used to write to paper.
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00:19:57,500 --> 00:20:02,042
We're looking for January
through June of 1992.
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♪ (SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
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I bet this is it.
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State versus Glenn Summerford.
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00:20:16,876 --> 00:20:19,083
(DOOR CREAKING)
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TALITHA:
I'm the one that sits there
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and writes everything down
that's said in court.
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It's typing
in a different language.
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Court reporters are certified
at 225 words a minute,
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so if you tried to type
on a regular keyboard,
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there is no way. I mean,
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your fingers would be burning,
smoking, everything,
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00:20:37,500 --> 00:20:39,083
so that wouldn't be possible.
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So this is shorthand.
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Instead of symbols,
we use letters.
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"He started screaming
and hollering
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and accusing me
of running around.
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00:21:00,083 --> 00:21:04,751
And then he said
that he was going to go...
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make me get bit and die,
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and say it was going
to look like a suicide,
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and he was going
to tell everybody when I died,
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he just woke up."
365
00:21:20,292 --> 00:21:23,834
"Question: Did he carry you
anywhere then?"
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"He grabbed me
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and held this gun to my head,
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and he made me
go out to the shed.
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He said if I didn't
reach over there
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and pick up that snake,
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he was going to stick
my face in it.
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He had me by the hair
of the head
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and the gun right here.
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I was praying,
and I reached in there
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and got to get it.
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00:21:57,083 --> 00:22:01,334
I picked it up,
but it bit me on the thumb."
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00:22:03,834 --> 00:22:04,792
(CLOCK TOLLING)
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00:22:04,876 --> 00:22:06,792
She was bitten
two different times,
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and he did not allow her
to seek medical attention,
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which is attempted murder.
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REPORTER 4: The juryfound Summerford guilty.
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He had two prior felony
convictions,
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and under
our habitual offender act,
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the least sentence
was 99 years,
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uh, so I didn't have
much choice.
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00:22:26,125 --> 00:22:28,459
♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
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00:22:33,042 --> 00:22:36,167
DR. BURTON: When I first startedresearching this story,
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00:22:36,250 --> 00:22:41,042
it wasn't about reopening
Glenn Summerford's case.
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00:22:41,125 --> 00:22:43,584
It was about understanding it.
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00:22:46,959 --> 00:22:49,417
These are the tapes
that I made
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00:22:49,500 --> 00:22:53,083
relative to
the Glenn Summerford trial
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00:22:53,167 --> 00:22:58,083
and the incident of his
being put in prison.
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00:22:58,167 --> 00:23:01,250
♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
394
00:23:03,876 --> 00:23:06,042
(RATTLESNAKE HISSES)
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DR. BURTON (ON TAPE):
Interview with Glenn Summerford
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00:23:13,209 --> 00:23:16,083
at Limestone
Correctional Facility.
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00:23:37,250 --> 00:23:40,459
(BIRDS SINGING)
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00:23:40,542 --> 00:23:43,626
♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
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00:23:47,584 --> 00:23:49,375
GLENN (ON TAPE):
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00:23:53,083 --> 00:23:55,751
(RAUCOUS LAUGHTER)
401
00:24:32,125 --> 00:24:34,000
(APPROACHING FOOTSTEPS)
402
00:24:41,792 --> 00:24:43,667
(COINS JANGLING)
403
00:25:00,459 --> 00:25:01,792
GLENN:
404
00:25:09,125 --> 00:25:11,667
♪ (DETERMINED MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
405
00:25:26,792 --> 00:25:27,876
(YOUNG GLENN GRUNTS)
406
00:26:09,500 --> 00:26:10,834
(YOUNG GLENN GRUNTING)
407
00:26:12,417 --> 00:26:13,459
(GLENN'S STEPFATHER GRUNTS)
408
00:26:21,834 --> 00:26:23,083
(THUNDER RUMBLING)
409
00:26:39,417 --> 00:26:45,083
DORIS SUMMERFORD:
♪ (SINGING INDISTINCTLY) ♪
410
00:26:47,209 --> 00:26:49,417
♪ (CONTINUES SINGING) ♪
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00:26:51,500 --> 00:26:53,667
♪ It seemed the waves ♪
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00:26:53,751 --> 00:26:56,250
♪ Would not obey ♪
413
00:26:56,334 --> 00:27:01,417
♪ The master's call
For peace ♪
414
00:27:02,709 --> 00:27:06,000
Y'all still filmin'?
(LAUGHS)
415
00:27:06,876 --> 00:27:09,042
My name is Doris Summerford.
416
00:27:10,042 --> 00:27:12,959
I'm Glenn Summerford's wife.
417
00:27:16,834 --> 00:27:18,667
Was. (CHUCKLES)
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00:27:19,959 --> 00:27:22,292
I've always liked to sing,
419
00:27:22,375 --> 00:27:24,459
but, uh, see,
according to my family
420
00:27:24,542 --> 00:27:26,876
I can't carry a tune
in a bucket,
421
00:27:26,959 --> 00:27:29,500
so I just mostly sing to me.
422
00:27:29,584 --> 00:27:32,167
(CHUCKLES) And the good Lord.
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00:27:32,250 --> 00:27:33,667
He don't complain.
424
00:27:34,584 --> 00:27:38,167
-(BIRDS CALLING)
-(INSECTS BUZZING)
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00:27:40,209 --> 00:27:43,626
DORIS: I met himwhen I was in the first grade.
426
00:27:43,709 --> 00:27:47,500
He run up and hollered
he was gonna marry me,
427
00:27:47,584 --> 00:27:51,500
and I said, "No, you ain't."
(LAUGHS)
428
00:27:51,584 --> 00:27:55,167
September 14th of '63,
we got married,
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00:27:55,250 --> 00:27:59,417
which tells you how dumb I was.
(LAUGHS)
430
00:27:59,500 --> 00:28:01,876
When I gave my heart away,
I gave it all away.
431
00:28:03,167 --> 00:28:04,626
-I loved him...
-(YOUNG DORIS GIGGLES)
432
00:28:04,709 --> 00:28:07,542
...and I tried to do
about anything he said to do.
433
00:28:09,209 --> 00:28:12,667
It was taken
right after we got married.
434
00:28:12,751 --> 00:28:14,542
He had been down there
in the shed,
435
00:28:14,626 --> 00:28:16,959
him and one
of his buddies, boxing.
436
00:28:17,042 --> 00:28:19,250
He loved to fight
before we got married,
437
00:28:19,334 --> 00:28:22,375
and he still fought
after we got married. (LAUGHS)
438
00:28:25,334 --> 00:28:27,459
If he was out drinkin',
439
00:28:27,542 --> 00:28:29,459
you come up
and said something to him,
440
00:28:29,542 --> 00:28:32,876
got in his face, you might
wind up sittin' on the floor.
441
00:28:35,626 --> 00:28:37,500
(OWL HOOTING)
442
00:28:39,542 --> 00:28:42,209
(OWL HOOTING)
443
00:28:44,959 --> 00:28:49,751
DR. BURTON: Glenn wasa really rough, tough person
444
00:28:49,834 --> 00:28:51,459
in the early part of his life,
445
00:28:51,542 --> 00:28:53,876
before he was really converted.
446
00:28:57,918 --> 00:29:01,209
That was the kind of person
they knew Glenn to be,
447
00:29:01,292 --> 00:29:03,709
especially when he was drinking.
448
00:29:08,626 --> 00:29:12,375
Earlier in his life,
he was convicted
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00:29:12,459 --> 00:29:16,667
of two... what were then
considered felonies,
450
00:29:16,751 --> 00:29:20,918
and he had a history
of conflict with the law.
451
00:29:38,667 --> 00:29:40,500
(MEN SHOUTING INDISTINCTLY)
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00:29:40,584 --> 00:29:43,292
GLENN:
453
00:29:53,334 --> 00:29:54,500
(PANTING)
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00:29:55,584 --> 00:29:56,626
So...
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00:29:56,709 --> 00:29:58,375
(INDISTINCT CHANTING)
456
00:29:58,459 --> 00:29:59,584
(ALL CHEER)
457
00:30:03,709 --> 00:30:05,292
GLENN:
458
00:30:09,125 --> 00:30:10,417
DR. BURTON:
459
00:30:10,500 --> 00:30:12,125
GLENN:
460
00:30:15,042 --> 00:30:17,876
♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
461
00:30:48,500 --> 00:30:51,250
-(CRICKETS CHIRPING)
-(WATER SPLASHING)
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00:31:14,125 --> 00:31:16,209
(BREATHING HEAVILY)
463
00:31:27,709 --> 00:31:29,500
(WATER SPLASHING)
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00:31:29,834 --> 00:31:31,375
GLENN:
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00:31:36,709 --> 00:31:39,167
(SARAH LAUGHS)
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00:31:49,459 --> 00:31:53,417
DORIS: He always said somebodycaused the house fire.
467
00:31:53,500 --> 00:31:57,375
But it, uh, never was provable.
468
00:31:58,250 --> 00:31:59,542
(GLASS BREAKING)
469
00:32:01,667 --> 00:32:05,209
Glenn Jr. was the one
that woke us up
470
00:32:05,292 --> 00:32:07,709
about 4:30, 5 o'clock
in the morning.
471
00:32:28,292 --> 00:32:31,292
DORIS: I was reaching for herwhen I caught on fire.
472
00:32:31,375 --> 00:32:33,083
-GLENN: Come on!
-(DORIS SCREAMS)
473
00:32:36,918 --> 00:32:40,375
He said he saw my hair blaze up,
474
00:32:40,459 --> 00:32:42,667
and he grabbed me,
475
00:32:42,751 --> 00:32:46,709
and, well, was trying
to put me out,
476
00:32:46,792 --> 00:32:49,209
and I was fighting him,
and he said
477
00:32:49,292 --> 00:32:51,167
we both went out the window.
478
00:32:58,250 --> 00:33:01,334
♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
479
00:33:24,209 --> 00:33:27,417
He tried to get back
in the window and some of the...
480
00:33:27,500 --> 00:33:29,918
neighbors had got there and...
481
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:31,834
they held him back.
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00:33:34,250 --> 00:33:36,918
I kept hollering,
"My baby! My baby!"
483
00:33:39,751 --> 00:33:43,042
Sarah was one year,
eight months,
484
00:33:43,125 --> 00:33:45,250
twenty-five days old
when she died.
485
00:33:46,250 --> 00:33:48,876
But in her short life,
486
00:33:49,918 --> 00:33:52,792
she had a... a lot of love.
487
00:34:24,751 --> 00:34:27,167
DORIS: He carried usto the hospital.
488
00:34:28,209 --> 00:34:29,876
I was leaving my baby,
489
00:34:30,667 --> 00:34:32,375
and I wasn't liking it.
490
00:34:32,459 --> 00:34:34,834
But there wasn't nothing
I could do about it.
491
00:34:39,167 --> 00:34:40,292
(MUMBLES)
492
00:34:55,375 --> 00:34:57,918
Glenn wasn't the same
after that.
493
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,209
He would go down
and sit at the cemetery.
494
00:35:04,542 --> 00:35:05,667
Uh...
495
00:35:06,584 --> 00:35:09,292
He wouldn't talk
that much about her.
496
00:35:12,250 --> 00:35:16,626
He-- I don't know whether
he kind of blamed his self
497
00:35:16,709 --> 00:35:18,918
'cause he couldn't get
back in there to her.
498
00:35:21,375 --> 00:35:24,959
-(INDISTINCT CHATTER)
-(FAUCET RUNNING)
499
00:35:25,042 --> 00:35:28,542
DORIS: We did pretty goodmost of the time,
500
00:35:29,292 --> 00:35:30,709
but, uh...
501
00:35:32,167 --> 00:35:33,667
you didn't argue with him.
502
00:35:37,167 --> 00:35:38,918
I loved him,
503
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,500
but at times
I was afraid of him.
504
00:35:44,167 --> 00:35:45,876
Fear and love.
505
00:35:45,959 --> 00:35:47,500
They went together.
506
00:35:48,626 --> 00:35:51,667
I had to be very careful
what I said and what I did.
507
00:35:52,417 --> 00:35:54,375
To me, he was just abusive...
508
00:35:55,083 --> 00:35:56,459
at times.
509
00:35:56,542 --> 00:35:59,751
He could be good,
he could be bad.
510
00:35:59,834 --> 00:36:01,959
THEO: Do you thinkGlenn's capable of murder?
511
00:36:07,918 --> 00:36:09,000
Possibly.
512
00:36:10,834 --> 00:36:12,876
(INDISTINCT CHATTER)
513
00:36:39,626 --> 00:36:44,500
The original story, I presume,
514
00:36:44,584 --> 00:36:48,375
of the "serpent" in the Bible
515
00:36:48,459 --> 00:36:49,918
begins in Genesis.
516
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,125
Satan appears
in the form of a serpent
517
00:36:53,209 --> 00:36:57,417
to tempt Eve with the fruit
of knowledge of good and evil.
518
00:36:57,500 --> 00:37:00,792
As result of her eating
the apple,
519
00:37:00,876 --> 00:37:04,125
some people believe
that women
520
00:37:04,209 --> 00:37:07,083
are symbolic of temptation
and sin.
521
00:37:07,792 --> 00:37:10,542
♪ (SOMBER MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
522
00:37:28,167 --> 00:37:30,751
Darlene, Glenn,
and the good Lord
523
00:37:30,834 --> 00:37:32,584
is all that knows what happened.
524
00:37:34,209 --> 00:37:37,042
'Cause I have heard
525
00:37:37,125 --> 00:37:39,834
both of 'em tell the truth,
526
00:37:39,918 --> 00:37:42,250
and I've heard
both of 'em tell lies.
527
00:37:44,083 --> 00:37:46,709
I don't know exactly
when him and her
528
00:37:46,792 --> 00:37:48,834
started seeing each other,
529
00:37:48,918 --> 00:37:52,292
but in '74, I think it was,
530
00:37:52,375 --> 00:37:54,334
him and her got married.
531
00:37:55,042 --> 00:37:57,083
They got married on my birthday.
532
00:37:57,876 --> 00:37:59,959
(LAUGHS)
533
00:38:00,042 --> 00:38:01,709
I always told him he didn't--
534
00:38:01,792 --> 00:38:03,959
he wanted to make sure
I didn't forget.
535
00:38:06,375 --> 00:38:09,542
♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
536
00:38:30,167 --> 00:38:32,125
DARLENE:
537
00:38:39,250 --> 00:38:40,417
(LAUGHS)
538
00:38:50,584 --> 00:38:52,459
(LAUGHING)
539
00:39:25,959 --> 00:39:29,125
(MARTY FUSSING)
540
00:39:31,667 --> 00:39:35,000
(CRYING)
541
00:39:52,751 --> 00:39:55,334
♪ (QUIET MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
542
00:40:04,626 --> 00:40:05,918
(DOOR CREAKS OPEN)
543
00:40:07,834 --> 00:40:10,125
MARTY SUMMERFORD:
I ain't never really talkedto nobody about it,
544
00:40:10,209 --> 00:40:11,584
you know, uh...
545
00:40:12,250 --> 00:40:14,542
not never been somethin'
546
00:40:14,626 --> 00:40:17,250
that I cared much about talkin'
about, but...
547
00:40:18,834 --> 00:40:20,876
heck, I lived it though.
548
00:40:25,834 --> 00:40:27,709
(CAR ENGINE STARTS)
549
00:40:29,417 --> 00:40:31,042
I was probably the poorest kid
that ever went
550
00:40:31,125 --> 00:40:33,167
to Scottsboro School,
you know?
551
00:40:33,250 --> 00:40:35,667
Got picked on a lot.
Fought a lot.
552
00:40:35,751 --> 00:40:39,042
Daddy always told me, "Boy,
don't you ever start a fight."
553
00:40:39,125 --> 00:40:41,792
He said, "But if someone else
starts it you better finish it,
554
00:40:41,876 --> 00:40:43,792
or I'll finish it
when you get home."
555
00:40:44,918 --> 00:40:47,876
He was probably
the toughest man I ever seen.
556
00:40:47,959 --> 00:40:51,334
He cast a big shadow,
you know?
557
00:40:51,417 --> 00:40:53,250
Hard to hold up to that.
558
00:40:54,250 --> 00:40:57,334
♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
559
00:41:18,500 --> 00:41:20,918
MARTY: I gotta be carefulwith what I say, but...
560
00:41:24,083 --> 00:41:27,709
Daddy, when he was mad
at somebody, he didn't--
561
00:41:27,792 --> 00:41:29,375
he didn't really
have a conscience
562
00:41:29,459 --> 00:41:31,042
before he got church.
563
00:41:34,876 --> 00:41:36,334
-(GLENN CURSING)
-(CLATTERING)
564
00:41:36,417 --> 00:41:38,626
MARTY: There was this one guy,tried to hit on my mom.
565
00:41:38,709 --> 00:41:40,167
He was drunk,
they was drinking,
566
00:41:40,250 --> 00:41:42,542
and he kept trying to
hit on my mom.
567
00:41:42,626 --> 00:41:45,167
Daddy end up whooping him
like that,
568
00:41:45,250 --> 00:41:46,459
knocking his eyeball out.
569
00:41:46,542 --> 00:41:48,626
And he did that
with a pair of vice grips.
570
00:41:48,709 --> 00:41:51,667
I mean he-- he didn't care.
571
00:41:51,751 --> 00:41:53,834
He threw him off
a waterfall for dead.
572
00:41:53,918 --> 00:41:55,292
We just left him.
573
00:41:55,375 --> 00:41:57,000
(FLIES BUZZING)
574
00:42:04,209 --> 00:42:06,918
DR. BURTON:
Glenn was the kind of person,
575
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,709
if he wanted her dead,
she would be dead.
576
00:42:10,792 --> 00:42:14,542
That was the kind of person
they knew Glenn to be
577
00:42:14,626 --> 00:42:19,375
up to this point
that he became redeemed.
578
00:42:19,459 --> 00:42:22,918
When he went through
that redemption,
579
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:28,209
then he was a holy man
who was intent on doing right.
580
00:42:28,292 --> 00:42:33,542
And to him, this would
explain his innocence.
581
00:42:34,375 --> 00:42:37,250
♪ (SOMBER MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
582
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,375
♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
583
00:43:48,584 --> 00:43:52,375
♪ (MUSIC BUILDS) ♪
584
00:43:59,959 --> 00:44:02,459
(FIRE CRACKLING)
585
00:44:08,292 --> 00:44:10,918
DR. BURTON:
Holiness Pentecostals like Glenn
586
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:15,000
believe a man can be redeemed
587
00:44:15,083 --> 00:44:17,375
from previous sins
588
00:44:17,459 --> 00:44:22,834
and attain a new state
of sanctification.
589
00:44:24,083 --> 00:44:27,959
Glenn wanted to be
a man of God.
590
00:44:30,459 --> 00:44:33,709
(WATER DRIPPING)
591
00:44:35,751 --> 00:44:40,584
GLENN:
592
00:44:43,626 --> 00:44:46,292
(DISTANT CHANTING AND SINGING)
593
00:44:54,042 --> 00:44:55,083
(CHUCKLES)
594
00:45:00,250 --> 00:45:03,250
(RATTLING)
595
00:45:11,334 --> 00:45:14,626
♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
596
00:45:30,209 --> 00:45:32,542
DR. BURTON:
Holiness Pentecostals
597
00:45:32,626 --> 00:45:35,667
go out to a stream or to a lake
598
00:45:35,751 --> 00:45:39,375
and baptize by immersion
599
00:45:39,459 --> 00:45:41,334
for the remission of sin.
600
00:45:45,542 --> 00:45:49,375
Born again
by the water and the Spirit.
601
00:45:49,459 --> 00:45:52,626
♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
602
00:46:03,959 --> 00:46:07,375
DR. BURTON:
603
00:46:11,417 --> 00:46:14,292
♪ (MUSIC BUILDS) ♪
604
00:46:17,834 --> 00:46:19,459
(GASPS)
605
00:46:22,125 --> 00:46:24,876
(PANTING)
606
00:46:24,959 --> 00:46:28,876
DR. BURTON: Why does anyonehave a conversion
607
00:46:28,959 --> 00:46:30,709
from one life to another?
608
00:46:30,792 --> 00:46:33,959
That's-- that's a psychological,
609
00:46:34,042 --> 00:46:36,292
emotional experience
610
00:46:36,375 --> 00:46:40,125
that would be different
in every individual's life.
611
00:46:40,667 --> 00:46:41,876
Why?
612
00:46:41,959 --> 00:46:45,417
(CHUCKLES) A lot of peoplehit the bottom and die.
613
00:46:45,500 --> 00:46:48,250
A lot of people
hit the bottom and don't die.
614
00:46:48,334 --> 00:46:52,459
Some of 'em hit the bottom
and find Jesus.
615
00:46:58,709 --> 00:47:02,709
(INDISTINCT RADIO CHATTER)
616
00:47:02,792 --> 00:47:04,959
A crime happens and you go--
and you go out
617
00:47:05,042 --> 00:47:07,667
to your usual suspects, right?
618
00:47:07,751 --> 00:47:10,500
And you go ask them
about the crime and then,
619
00:47:10,584 --> 00:47:12,709
you know, "Oh, no, no, I'm good,
620
00:47:12,792 --> 00:47:15,751
I don't do that no more,
I go to church and..."
621
00:47:15,834 --> 00:47:17,334
But, you know...
622
00:47:17,417 --> 00:47:20,792
it's just all a farce.
(CHUCKLES)
623
00:47:25,542 --> 00:47:27,417
MARTY: When he--when he started going to church,
624
00:47:27,500 --> 00:47:29,250
it was hard for people
to understand
625
00:47:29,334 --> 00:47:31,584
how somebody could change
that quick, you know?
626
00:47:31,667 --> 00:47:34,375
And I might be part of
the reason he got in church.
627
00:47:34,459 --> 00:47:36,459
He wanted to be a better daddy.
628
00:47:36,542 --> 00:47:39,375
♪ (SINGING INDISTINCTLY) ♪
629
00:47:46,292 --> 00:47:48,751
There's always something good
that comes of it.
630
00:47:54,667 --> 00:47:56,209
And so, everybody praise...
631
00:47:57,083 --> 00:47:59,792
GLENN:
632
00:48:09,125 --> 00:48:11,334
♪ (SOMBER MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
633
00:48:20,375 --> 00:48:22,250
MARTY: The nighthe got the Holy Ghost,
634
00:48:22,334 --> 00:48:25,417
he prayed all night long.
I remember it.
635
00:48:25,500 --> 00:48:27,334
It was pretty wild.
636
00:48:27,417 --> 00:48:29,959
He dranked all the time
before that.
637
00:48:30,042 --> 00:48:32,584
He quit that instant.
He was done.
638
00:48:33,500 --> 00:48:34,542
Tears rolled up in his eyes
639
00:48:34,626 --> 00:48:36,334
and he said,
"I'm not that man no more."
640
00:48:36,417 --> 00:48:38,250
(INDISTINCT CHATTER)
641
00:48:38,334 --> 00:48:40,125
MARTY: 'Cause he didn't justchange one thing,
642
00:48:40,209 --> 00:48:43,292
he changed his whole life.
I mean everything.
643
00:48:43,375 --> 00:48:45,584
It was like someone else
just stepped in his body
644
00:48:45,667 --> 00:48:47,626
and it wasn't even him no more,
you know?
645
00:48:49,709 --> 00:48:52,834
♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
646
00:48:56,584 --> 00:48:58,500
He was on his knees all night.
647
00:48:59,250 --> 00:49:01,751
(VOICES WHISPERING)
648
00:49:04,167 --> 00:49:06,083
His knees was on fire.
649
00:49:09,959 --> 00:49:13,375
When he got up, the whole
knees of his pants was gone.
650
00:49:13,459 --> 00:49:16,125
It was like
he was a whole new man.
651
00:49:16,209 --> 00:49:19,167
Nothing could hurt him
when he was in the Spirit.
652
00:49:20,459 --> 00:49:22,834
DR. BURTON: In the Bible...
653
00:49:29,918 --> 00:49:32,083
(GLENN SPEAKING IN TONGUES)
654
00:49:34,626 --> 00:49:35,876
Glory to God.
655
00:49:36,626 --> 00:49:40,250
(SPEAKING IN TONGUES)
656
00:49:40,334 --> 00:49:43,209
A lot of serpent handlers
believe
657
00:49:43,292 --> 00:49:47,292
that they should be anointed
with the Holy Spirit
658
00:49:47,375 --> 00:49:51,125
in order to handle serpents
or do these other signs,
659
00:49:51,209 --> 00:49:56,167
and that confirms
that they have God's power.
660
00:49:56,918 --> 00:50:00,876
The principle verse in...
661
00:50:31,709 --> 00:50:37,042
Those are the so-called
five signs
662
00:50:38,167 --> 00:50:41,292
that will follow
them that believe.
663
00:50:42,042 --> 00:50:43,918
(RATTLING)
664
00:50:44,417 --> 00:50:47,000
DR. BURTON:
665
00:51:03,626 --> 00:51:06,626
MARTY: Daddy always saidhe was just a man, you know?
666
00:51:06,709 --> 00:51:08,918
He wasn't nothin' without God.
667
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:10,417
He couldn't do nothin'
without God.
668
00:51:10,500 --> 00:51:13,209
I've seen him pray
for people in wheelchairs,
669
00:51:13,292 --> 00:51:14,876
and they'd get up and walk.
670
00:51:14,959 --> 00:51:18,667
Like 80-year-old people
that hadn't walked in 20 years.
671
00:51:18,751 --> 00:51:21,375
They'd get up and run
all over the church.
672
00:51:21,459 --> 00:51:23,167
It had to be God
'cause nothin' else
673
00:51:23,250 --> 00:51:24,667
could do nothin' like that.
674
00:51:29,792 --> 00:51:32,751
♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
675
00:51:37,626 --> 00:51:39,834
(FEMALE VOICE 1)
676
00:51:53,542 --> 00:51:54,667
(BONES CRACKING)
677
00:51:59,375 --> 00:52:00,292
(KNIFE CHOPPING)
678
00:52:00,375 --> 00:52:02,542
(FEMALE VOICE 2)
679
00:52:04,542 --> 00:52:05,959
(FLESH CUTS)
680
00:52:06,042 --> 00:52:08,125
(FLY BUZZING)
681
00:52:13,125 --> 00:52:14,626
♪ (MUSIC SWELLS) ♪
682
00:52:20,125 --> 00:52:22,500
(MALE VOICE)
683
00:52:23,417 --> 00:52:24,709
(DOG PANTS, WHINES)
684
00:52:27,709 --> 00:52:29,626
(LOW RUMBLING)
685
00:52:41,125 --> 00:52:42,959
-(INDISTINCT CLAMOR)
-(BUZZING)
686
00:52:52,167 --> 00:52:54,584
Praise God tonight.
We've got power tonight.
687
00:52:54,667 --> 00:52:58,000
(CONTINUES INDISTINCTLY)
688
00:52:59,709 --> 00:53:02,918
MARTY: I saw demons cast out.I saw my daddy do it.
689
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:07,667
I wasn't but about eight,
maybe nine.
690
00:53:07,751 --> 00:53:10,292
I saw him cast one out
of a guy one night at church,
691
00:53:10,375 --> 00:53:15,125
and it literally came out
and run across the floor.
692
00:53:15,209 --> 00:53:18,042
I mean, it was--
it was crazy looking.
693
00:53:18,125 --> 00:53:19,709
But there was somethin'
come out of him
694
00:53:19,792 --> 00:53:21,042
just run right across the floor.
695
00:53:21,125 --> 00:53:22,334
And it was
runnin' around everywhere
696
00:53:22,417 --> 00:53:24,459
trying to get back into
somebody else.
697
00:53:24,542 --> 00:53:26,209
And they just kept prayin'.
698
00:53:26,292 --> 00:53:28,626
♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
699
00:53:30,584 --> 00:53:35,167
(INDISTINCT CLAMOR, SHOUTING)
700
00:53:37,375 --> 00:53:39,751
MARTY:
It was almost like a fog-like.
701
00:53:41,125 --> 00:53:44,209
I don't know what it was--
it was-- you can't explain it.
702
00:53:45,459 --> 00:53:46,876
(ROARS)
703
00:53:46,959 --> 00:53:48,459
(DORIS LAUGHS)
704
00:53:48,542 --> 00:53:51,667
DORIS: There's more evil todaythan there ever has been.
705
00:53:52,042 --> 00:53:53,500
(CHUCKLES)
706
00:53:53,584 --> 00:53:56,042
So if you get scared enough,
you gonna pray.
707
00:53:59,167 --> 00:54:01,584
But it's supposed to be scary.
708
00:54:03,417 --> 00:54:04,959
Fear the Lord.
709
00:54:05,042 --> 00:54:08,292
♪ (OMINOUS MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
710
00:54:09,125 --> 00:54:12,375
(DISTANT GROWLING)
711
00:54:27,250 --> 00:54:28,334
(DISHES CLATTERING)
712
00:54:28,417 --> 00:54:29,959
GLENN:
713
00:54:30,042 --> 00:54:32,584
(RACCOON CHITTERING)
714
00:54:37,292 --> 00:54:39,125
-(RACCOON SCREECHES)
-(DARLENE YELPS)
715
00:54:39,918 --> 00:54:41,125
(SOBS)
716
00:54:41,209 --> 00:54:43,209
GLENN:
717
00:54:47,334 --> 00:54:49,334
MARTY: I don't think
nobody's ever really told
718
00:54:49,417 --> 00:54:50,792
the truth about it.
719
00:54:50,876 --> 00:54:53,626
And I know right there
where she said she got bit,
720
00:54:53,709 --> 00:54:55,834
a 'coon bit her
about a week before that.
721
00:54:55,918 --> 00:54:58,667
And that's the only
bite marks I've seen on her.
722
00:54:58,751 --> 00:55:01,083
I don't know if she got bit
or not.
723
00:55:01,167 --> 00:55:03,542
Yeah, she handled snakes
all the time.
724
00:55:04,375 --> 00:55:06,250
They wouldn't bite her neither.
725
00:55:09,250 --> 00:55:10,834
I mean, you know,
726
00:55:10,918 --> 00:55:13,584
she could've got bit.
I ain't saying she didn't.
727
00:55:13,667 --> 00:55:16,125
But I've always kinda
questioned it to myself,
728
00:55:16,209 --> 00:55:18,000
you know? I've never
really asked her that.
729
00:55:18,083 --> 00:55:20,000
Never really talked to her
about it.
730
00:55:20,083 --> 00:55:23,167
She's not a person that you
can really talk to like that,
731
00:55:23,250 --> 00:55:25,125
you know? Uh...
732
00:55:25,209 --> 00:55:28,042
It was always hard for me
and her to get close.
733
00:55:28,876 --> 00:55:30,667
She had lost a kid before.
734
00:55:31,918 --> 00:55:34,584
DR. BURTON: Beforeshe was married to Glenn,
735
00:55:34,667 --> 00:55:36,834
she had a child, Bobby Joe,
736
00:55:36,918 --> 00:55:39,292
and it was taken away
from her
737
00:55:39,375 --> 00:55:41,918
because of her misconduct.
738
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:47,918
And I think that had
a profound effect on her
739
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:52,626
doing anything
that would prevent her
740
00:55:53,209 --> 00:55:54,918
keeping Marty.
741
00:56:17,167 --> 00:56:18,459
(CAR APPROACHING)
742
00:56:23,459 --> 00:56:24,667
(CAR DOOR OPENS)
743
00:56:46,250 --> 00:56:47,667
(ENGINE STARTS)
744
00:57:12,876 --> 00:57:14,417
GLENN:
745
00:57:35,375 --> 00:57:36,792
(DOOR CREAKING)
746
00:57:52,334 --> 00:57:55,292
♪ (SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC PLAYS) ♪
747
00:58:02,250 --> 00:58:05,834
(SNAKES RATTLING, HISSING)
748
00:58:12,584 --> 00:58:14,250
(RATTLING)
749
00:58:33,042 --> 00:58:35,876
♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
750
00:58:50,459 --> 00:58:53,292
♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
751
00:59:14,751 --> 00:59:16,959
DR. BURTON:
752
00:59:18,167 --> 00:59:20,751
GLENN:
753
00:59:23,292 --> 00:59:25,626
(PILLS RATTLING)
754
00:59:41,167 --> 00:59:42,292
(DOOR SLAMS)
755
00:59:42,375 --> 00:59:44,626
♪ (SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
756
00:59:46,375 --> 00:59:48,375
(MARTY PANTING)
757
01:00:00,667 --> 01:00:02,792
♪ (MUSIC INTENSIFIES) ♪
758
01:00:06,918 --> 01:00:08,626
(DARLENE STRUGGLING)
759
01:00:11,292 --> 01:00:12,876
(DARLENE GASPS)
760
01:00:20,834 --> 01:00:21,876
(RETCHING)
761
01:00:24,334 --> 01:00:26,876
(COUGHING)
762
01:00:30,792 --> 01:00:32,000
GLENN:
763
01:00:32,083 --> 01:00:34,083
DR. BURTON:
764
01:00:35,626 --> 01:00:38,167
GLENN:
765
01:00:45,459 --> 01:00:47,876
DR. BURTON:
766
01:01:03,083 --> 01:01:05,792
(RATTLING)
767
01:01:09,792 --> 01:01:12,125
DR. BURTON: One way of lookingat this whole thing
768
01:01:12,209 --> 01:01:15,250
is like in a witch trial
in New England.
769
01:01:15,334 --> 01:01:19,375
If Darlene was bitten,
that would prove that, uh,
770
01:01:19,459 --> 01:01:20,584
that she was guilty.
771
01:01:20,667 --> 01:01:23,500
If she handled the serpents
and wasn't bitten,
772
01:01:23,584 --> 01:01:28,334
then it very likely would prove
that she wasn't guilty.
773
01:01:28,417 --> 01:01:33,751
He would be using the serpent
as divine verification.
774
01:01:35,209 --> 01:01:37,834
GLENN:
775
01:01:58,834 --> 01:02:01,083
DR. BURTON:
The next morning, they get up
776
01:02:01,167 --> 01:02:05,209
and they go to return videos
777
01:02:05,292 --> 01:02:07,250
at the video shop.
778
01:02:07,626 --> 01:02:10,375
GLENN:
779
01:02:15,292 --> 01:02:16,626
(STORE BELL RINGING)
780
01:02:25,792 --> 01:02:27,417
(CAR ENGINE REVVING)
781
01:02:28,667 --> 01:02:31,417
DR. BURTON:
782
01:02:33,125 --> 01:02:35,125
GLENN:
783
01:03:23,459 --> 01:03:24,918
(SNORING)
784
01:03:36,709 --> 01:03:39,459
CLARENCE:
There was a note that was found.
785
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:41,542
A suicide note.
786
01:03:43,417 --> 01:03:46,250
Seemed like it was written
to the boy.
787
01:03:47,751 --> 01:03:50,042
(PENCIL SCRATCHING)
788
01:03:50,125 --> 01:03:52,792
TALITHA:
"Marty, I love you. I love.
789
01:03:52,876 --> 01:03:56,167
Do what Daddy says.
Daddy was asleep.
790
01:03:56,250 --> 01:03:59,876
I tried to fix everything,
but it didn't work out.
791
01:03:59,959 --> 01:04:00,959
Don't blame Daddy
792
01:04:01,042 --> 01:04:03,334
because he loves me
and trying to help me.
793
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:05,918
But I wouldn't listen.
794
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:08,959
Daddy's asleep and he don't know
what I'm doing.
795
01:04:09,042 --> 01:04:11,792
Marty, always remember,
I love you for the good,
796
01:04:11,876 --> 01:04:13,709
not the bad, but love you.
797
01:04:13,792 --> 01:04:15,751
Try to get right. Your mama.
798
01:04:16,584 --> 01:04:18,542
I went out and got snake bit.
799
01:04:18,626 --> 01:04:20,500
Glenn is asleep and don't know.
800
01:04:20,584 --> 01:04:22,959
You and Daddy live right, okay?
801
01:04:23,500 --> 01:04:24,834
I love you."
802
01:04:27,751 --> 01:04:29,000
"Question:
803
01:04:29,083 --> 01:04:31,876
Is it the note you wrote
on that occasion?"
804
01:04:33,209 --> 01:04:35,209
"Answer: Yes."
805
01:04:35,292 --> 01:04:37,667
♪ (MUSIC FADES) ♪
806
01:04:37,751 --> 01:04:39,751
(CRICKETS CHIRPING)
807
01:04:41,334 --> 01:04:44,667
THEO: Do you--Do you rememberthe note that you left?
808
01:04:44,751 --> 01:04:47,000
DARLENE: Oh, yeah, that--He made me write that note.
809
01:04:47,083 --> 01:04:49,042
♪ (SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
810
01:05:03,626 --> 01:05:04,959
(COUGHS)
811
01:05:08,334 --> 01:05:09,500
(COUGHS)
812
01:05:23,667 --> 01:05:26,584
(SNORING)
813
01:05:29,292 --> 01:05:32,375
(DOOR CREAKS)
814
01:05:38,083 --> 01:05:39,959
DARLENE:
815
01:05:49,292 --> 01:05:51,125
(DEMON GROWLING)
816
01:05:57,542 --> 01:05:58,584
(YELPS)
817
01:06:10,709 --> 01:06:11,876
(DEMON SCREECHES)
818
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:22,209
Yep.
819
01:06:27,083 --> 01:06:28,083
(GLENN GRUNTS)
820
01:06:29,083 --> 01:06:30,167
DARLENE:
821
01:06:31,584 --> 01:06:32,709
(DARLENE YELLS)
822
01:06:34,417 --> 01:06:35,542
And...
823
01:06:37,125 --> 01:06:39,709
♪ (OMINOUS MUSIC PLAYS) ♪
824
01:06:43,334 --> 01:06:46,250
♪ (MUSIC CONTINUES) ♪
825
01:06:46,334 --> 01:06:49,542
DR. BURTON: Nobody knowswhat really happened.
826
01:06:49,626 --> 01:06:53,709
We have what Glenn
says happened,
827
01:06:53,792 --> 01:06:57,375
and we have what Darlene
says that happened.
828
01:06:57,459 --> 01:06:59,751
There were no other witnesses
829
01:06:59,834 --> 01:07:02,500
that know what happened
that night.
830
01:07:03,209 --> 01:07:05,584
Except maybe Marty.
831
01:07:08,959 --> 01:07:10,959
MARTY: Daddy tried hardto live for God.
832
01:07:11,584 --> 01:07:13,125
He tried real hard.
833
01:07:13,959 --> 01:07:15,083
And I always heard
834
01:07:15,167 --> 01:07:16,918
the harder you try
to live for God,
835
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:19,250
the harder the devil
will fight to keep you.
836
01:07:21,125 --> 01:07:23,083
I remember it. I was a kid.
837
01:07:23,167 --> 01:07:25,834
-I didn't want 'em fightin',
you know?
-(DARLENE GRUNTS)
838
01:07:25,918 --> 01:07:28,500
-MARTY: I didn't knowwhat was really going on.
-(GLASS SHATTERS)
839
01:07:28,584 --> 01:07:31,626
They'd been fighting and chasing
one another around the yard.
840
01:07:32,876 --> 01:07:34,167
And I just walked up,
and you know,
841
01:07:34,250 --> 01:07:35,834
it was the first thought
that went through my head,
842
01:07:35,918 --> 01:07:37,792
I had a bow and arrow
in my hand.
843
01:07:37,876 --> 01:07:40,083
I just whiz one by him.
844
01:07:41,542 --> 01:07:43,709
-(GUN COCKS)
-(DOG BARKING)
845
01:07:45,209 --> 01:07:46,417
(ARROW WHOOSHES)
846
01:07:47,334 --> 01:07:49,918
(DOGS BARKING IN DISTANCE)
847
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:52,667
MARTY: I was tryin' to protectmy mama, I thought.
848
01:07:56,500 --> 01:07:57,584
It's a scary thought
849
01:07:57,667 --> 01:07:59,292
thinking you could've killed
your daddy, though.
850
01:08:00,792 --> 01:08:02,834
Uh, some things
are best forgotten.
851
01:08:06,375 --> 01:08:09,209
So they called my brother-in-law
and sister to come and get me.
852
01:08:15,918 --> 01:08:19,417
(RATTLING)
853
01:08:23,083 --> 01:08:24,292
(HISSES)
854
01:08:26,334 --> 01:08:27,500
DARLENE:
855
01:08:43,792 --> 01:08:46,375
DR. BURTON:
The next morning, they get up,
856
01:08:46,459 --> 01:08:50,792
and they go to return the videos
857
01:08:50,876 --> 01:08:54,459
at the Lakeside Grocery
and Video Shop.
858
01:08:54,542 --> 01:08:57,125
Darlene goes in
to return the videos.
859
01:08:57,209 --> 01:08:59,375
(DARLENE BREATHING HEAVILY)
860
01:08:59,459 --> 01:09:01,751
DR. BURTON: And she saysher hand is swollen
861
01:09:01,834 --> 01:09:03,542
at that point, somewhat.
862
01:09:05,209 --> 01:09:06,918
DARLENE:
863
01:09:24,083 --> 01:09:26,125
-(LAUGHS)
-(DARLENE GASPS)
864
01:09:26,751 --> 01:09:28,667
SALLY JESSY RAPHAEL:
865
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:35,292
CHARLOTTE COLÓN:
866
01:09:49,584 --> 01:09:50,626
Right.
867
01:09:51,167 --> 01:09:53,209
(COUGHING)
868
01:09:53,292 --> 01:09:55,500
CLARENCE: Everybody saysthis is a cruel world.
869
01:09:55,584 --> 01:09:57,751
This isn't a cruel world.
870
01:09:57,834 --> 01:10:00,167
It's a lovely world,
it's a good world.
871
01:10:01,250 --> 01:10:03,334
But the people that are in it,
872
01:10:04,292 --> 01:10:06,334
is what's making it cruel.
873
01:10:06,417 --> 01:10:10,667
♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
874
01:10:12,542 --> 01:10:15,292
There was a point, uh,
in the interviews
875
01:10:15,375 --> 01:10:18,125
that he was saying
that he did not drink.
876
01:10:18,209 --> 01:10:21,417
He would say things like,
"If I had been drunk,
877
01:10:21,500 --> 01:10:23,250
then there would have been
a problem.
878
01:10:23,334 --> 01:10:26,292
I could have lost it,
or gone off,
879
01:10:26,375 --> 01:10:29,959
and done some real serious
damage or something."
880
01:10:30,042 --> 01:10:32,292
But I talked
to several other people
881
01:10:32,375 --> 01:10:36,626
and they said
he was obviously inebriated.
882
01:10:38,167 --> 01:10:39,792
(ON TAPE)
883
01:11:08,250 --> 01:11:09,417
(GUN COCKS)
884
01:11:28,083 --> 01:11:30,459
DWIGHT DUKE: It was supposedto be addressed to her son.
885
01:11:30,542 --> 01:11:33,042
It states about
three different times
886
01:11:33,125 --> 01:11:36,083
that, "Daddy doesn't know
about this."
887
01:11:36,167 --> 01:11:37,459
"Daddy loves us."
888
01:11:38,083 --> 01:11:39,125
Um, "Daddy's asleep
889
01:11:39,209 --> 01:11:41,542
and doesn't know
that I'm doing this."
890
01:11:41,626 --> 01:11:43,542
"You and Daddy live right."
891
01:11:43,626 --> 01:11:47,209
And it just keeps
not referring to her,
892
01:11:47,292 --> 01:11:49,709
but kept giving Glenn an alibi.
893
01:11:56,500 --> 01:11:57,667
(LAUGHS)
894
01:12:03,709 --> 01:12:04,709
(GUN COCKS)
895
01:12:06,500 --> 01:12:07,709
(THUNDER RUMBLING)
896
01:12:08,834 --> 01:12:10,000
GLENN: Come on!
897
01:12:10,459 --> 01:12:12,709
SALLY:
898
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:15,500
He grabbed me by the hair...
899
01:12:15,584 --> 01:12:16,667
(DARLENE GRUNTS)
900
01:12:21,167 --> 01:12:22,250
(SCREAMS)
901
01:12:27,500 --> 01:12:28,918
(RATTLING)
902
01:12:33,375 --> 01:12:34,918
-(GUN COCKS)
-(HISSES)
903
01:12:38,500 --> 01:12:39,959
(GRUNTS, CRIES)
904
01:12:40,959 --> 01:12:43,834
(SOBBING)
905
01:12:45,792 --> 01:12:46,876
(SOBBING) Let go of me.
906
01:12:50,959 --> 01:12:52,500
(RATTLING)
907
01:12:52,584 --> 01:12:54,792
DARLENE: (SOBBING) No! No!
908
01:13:12,417 --> 01:13:13,459
(IMITATES STING)
909
01:13:18,375 --> 01:13:21,042
(BREATHING HEAVILY)
910
01:13:30,334 --> 01:13:31,751
(LAUGHS)
911
01:13:36,334 --> 01:13:39,000
(BREATHING HEAVILY)
912
01:13:44,417 --> 01:13:45,667
(GLENN SNORES)
913
01:13:48,626 --> 01:13:51,250
♪ (SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
914
01:13:53,375 --> 01:13:55,375
(DARLENE PANTING)
915
01:14:16,042 --> 01:14:19,250
-(DISTANT BARKING)
-(VEHICLE APPROACHING)
916
01:14:19,584 --> 01:14:21,792
DARLENE:
917
01:14:24,459 --> 01:14:27,626
♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
918
01:14:34,125 --> 01:14:35,375
(DOOR SLAMS)
919
01:14:37,417 --> 01:14:38,626
(DARLENE CHUCKLES)
920
01:14:43,042 --> 01:14:46,459
(SIREN WAILING)
921
01:14:46,542 --> 01:14:50,083
DR. BURTON: The trial lastedonly two and a half days
922
01:14:50,167 --> 01:14:54,167
and ended with Glenn
being found guilty
923
01:14:54,250 --> 01:14:55,751
of attempted murder.
924
01:14:55,834 --> 01:14:58,459
He was a former
two-time offender,
925
01:14:58,542 --> 01:15:03,918
and the judge had no recourse
but to give him 99 years.
926
01:15:05,042 --> 01:15:07,042
REPORTER 5:
The career of Glenn Summerford,
927
01:15:07,125 --> 01:15:09,542
Pentecostal minister,
snake handler,
928
01:15:09,626 --> 01:15:12,584
and now convicted felon,
is over.
929
01:15:12,667 --> 01:15:14,751
(SIGHS) I say, thank you, Lord.
(CHUCKLES)
930
01:15:14,834 --> 01:15:17,709
I mean, that's all I can
think of, you know, just...
931
01:15:19,042 --> 01:15:21,918
I know that he got it,
you know, what he deserved.
932
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:25,125
REPORTER 5:
With their minister headedfrom the pulpit to prison,
933
01:15:25,209 --> 01:15:28,250
many followers say the future
of the Church of Jesus
934
01:15:28,334 --> 01:15:29,542
is in jeopardy.
935
01:15:29,626 --> 01:15:34,334
Others remain convinced
Glenn Summerford isn't guilty.
936
01:15:45,459 --> 01:15:47,000
SALLY: All right,let me ask our psychologist.
937
01:15:47,083 --> 01:15:49,417
How does she deal with
going back to her community,
938
01:15:49,500 --> 01:15:51,792
where the people
believe the minister?
939
01:15:51,876 --> 01:15:53,542
There will be some
who believe the minister
940
01:15:53,626 --> 01:15:54,792
and some who don't.
941
01:15:54,876 --> 01:15:57,042
I-- I think
with great difficulty,
942
01:15:57,125 --> 01:15:58,792
because it's almost like
a double abuse,
943
01:15:58,876 --> 01:16:00,417
you know,
you're abused by the person
944
01:16:00,500 --> 01:16:01,876
and then when you go out
in public
945
01:16:01,959 --> 01:16:03,417
and you're not believed,
you're abused again.
946
01:16:03,500 --> 01:16:05,876
-I think it will take
a lot of support.
-(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
947
01:16:13,250 --> 01:16:14,626
DARLENE:
948
01:16:27,584 --> 01:16:29,709
(BIRDS SINGING)
949
01:16:30,459 --> 01:16:32,459
MARTY: I lost both my parents.
950
01:16:35,751 --> 01:16:37,709
I didn't get to live
with neither one of 'em.
951
01:16:42,834 --> 01:16:46,500
♪ (SOMBER MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
952
01:16:51,209 --> 01:16:53,626
MARTY: It affected me a lot'cause I really didn't know
953
01:16:53,709 --> 01:16:56,417
how to raise the kids, you know?
Uh...
954
01:16:57,375 --> 01:16:58,959
I didn't have no experience.
955
01:16:59,959 --> 01:17:01,626
I got good kids, though.
956
01:17:02,250 --> 01:17:04,125
My kids are great.
957
01:17:04,209 --> 01:17:05,709
I really love 'em.
958
01:17:06,417 --> 01:17:08,000
I'd do anything for 'em.
959
01:17:09,209 --> 01:17:11,959
I tried not to be
as tough as my dad.
960
01:17:12,042 --> 01:17:14,083
I wanna be a good father.
961
01:17:14,167 --> 01:17:16,918
Yeah, this is my daughter,
Hayley, here's the, um...
962
01:17:17,751 --> 01:17:19,918
My little mini-me.
963
01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:22,792
Yeah, I made sure they always
had a mom and daddy, you know.
964
01:17:24,626 --> 01:17:28,417
I grew up on deer and dove
and rabbit and squirrel
965
01:17:28,500 --> 01:17:30,209
and all that stuff, so...
966
01:17:30,292 --> 01:17:32,459
MARTY:
Country as cornbread, I guess.
967
01:17:32,542 --> 01:17:34,959
I guess we was kinda
made for one another.
968
01:17:38,209 --> 01:17:40,334
HEATHER SUMMERFORD:
We fought hardto have what we have now.
969
01:17:40,417 --> 01:17:41,417
MARTY: Yeah.
970
01:17:41,500 --> 01:17:43,542
HEATHER: And last weekwe was married 20.
971
01:17:43,626 --> 01:17:45,334
MARTY: I don't knowwhy she's crazy about me,
972
01:17:45,417 --> 01:17:46,834
but she is.
973
01:17:48,250 --> 01:17:51,000
I always been kinda crazy
about her, I reckon.
974
01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:55,918
I look back at it now
and it's like,
975
01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:57,125
if I'd stayed there,
976
01:17:57,209 --> 01:17:59,542
then ain't no tellin'
where I'd be right now.
977
01:18:01,542 --> 01:18:03,584
I never really been
a real religious man,
978
01:18:03,667 --> 01:18:05,500
but I got family.
979
01:18:06,125 --> 01:18:07,667
That's all I need.
980
01:18:13,292 --> 01:18:15,709
THEO: Do you think we believe
what we want to believe?
981
01:18:17,584 --> 01:18:19,542
It might be
the other way around.
982
01:18:21,250 --> 01:18:24,250
We believe things
whether we want to or not.
983
01:18:26,292 --> 01:18:29,375
In one of those services
that I had gone to earlier,
984
01:18:29,459 --> 01:18:32,334
the preacher came back
in a service
985
01:18:32,417 --> 01:18:34,584
and anointed me with oil.
986
01:18:34,667 --> 01:18:37,918
And I kind of wanted
to feel, at that point,
987
01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:41,459
the infusion of the Spirit,
you know?
988
01:18:41,542 --> 01:18:43,584
Have a real...
989
01:18:43,667 --> 01:18:48,292
real spiritual experience,
you know.
990
01:18:48,375 --> 01:18:50,626
But nothing happened.
(CHUCKLES)
991
01:18:52,626 --> 01:18:54,125
We may want to believe,
992
01:18:54,209 --> 01:18:57,417
and it would be nice
to have an experience
993
01:18:57,500 --> 01:19:00,584
like Glenn,
but I never got that.
994
01:19:01,459 --> 01:19:04,167
♪ (TENSE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
995
01:19:05,459 --> 01:19:08,042
DARLENE:
996
01:19:11,209 --> 01:19:13,292
THEO:
997
01:19:13,375 --> 01:19:14,792
DARLENE:
998
01:19:18,250 --> 01:19:21,042
-♪ (EERIE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
-(INDISTINCT WHISPERING)
999
01:19:23,709 --> 01:19:27,500
♪ (SOMBER PIANO MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
1000
01:19:29,375 --> 01:19:32,417
DR. BURTON: Glenn believesin the providence of God.
1001
01:19:32,500 --> 01:19:35,542
If God wants him
to be left in prison,
1002
01:19:35,626 --> 01:19:37,292
then he'll be left in there.
1003
01:19:37,375 --> 01:19:42,042
If He wants him out,
then that will be provided.
1004
01:19:44,542 --> 01:19:47,834
♪ (MUSIC CONTINUES) ♪
1005
01:19:47,918 --> 01:19:49,584
The last time I saw him
1006
01:19:49,667 --> 01:19:51,209
was before the escape.
1007
01:19:51,292 --> 01:19:54,250
-(DOGS BARKING)
-(MEN SHOUTING DISTANTLY)
1008
01:19:56,876 --> 01:20:00,042
DR. BURTON: The whole storyof Glenn Summerford
1009
01:20:00,125 --> 01:20:03,042
has become Appalachian folklore
1010
01:20:03,125 --> 01:20:05,584
just like some
of the scriptures.
1011
01:20:07,959 --> 01:20:11,709
The name "Pentecostal"
comes from a verse in Acts
1012
01:20:11,792 --> 01:20:15,709
in the second chapter,
the day of Pentecost.
1013
01:20:18,959 --> 01:20:24,209
The scripture says,
"There was a loud noise
1014
01:20:24,292 --> 01:20:27,042
like a great thunder.
1015
01:20:27,125 --> 01:20:32,375
And then cloven tongues,
like as of fire,
1016
01:20:33,584 --> 01:20:38,667
descended and sat on them.
1017
01:20:38,751 --> 01:20:44,334
And they were filled
with the Holy Spirit."
1018
01:20:44,417 --> 01:20:47,542
♪ (MUSIC FADES) ♪
1019
01:20:49,167 --> 01:20:52,250
(CRICKETS CHIRPING)
1020
01:20:56,584 --> 01:20:58,125
(WATER LAPPING)
1021
01:21:31,792 --> 01:21:32,959
GLENN: Mm-hmm.
1022
01:21:36,626 --> 01:21:38,584
(FIRE CRACKLING)
1023
01:21:40,292 --> 01:21:44,292
♪ (MUSIC INTENSIFIES) ♪
1024
01:21:48,125 --> 01:21:50,959
(VOICES WHISPERING)
1025
01:21:56,375 --> 01:21:59,167
(WHISPERING CONTINUES)
1026
01:22:15,083 --> 01:22:16,834
(DOGS BARKING)
1027
01:22:18,125 --> 01:22:20,834
(SIREN WAILS)
1028
01:22:20,918 --> 01:22:23,959
♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
1029
01:23:22,375 --> 01:23:26,500
♪ (MUSIC CONTINUES) ♪
1030
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:35,876
♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪
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