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Wow, this place is beautiful.
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A gifted designer
started his business
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when he was just 8 years old...
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So you make all of this stuff?
Ben: Yep.
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Lemonis: This is all yours, too?
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Ben: Yep, these are
all of our designs.
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Lemonis: Wow.
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...eventually building
a million-dollar home brand
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around his dazzling creations.
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Now, Ben's Garden
has stopped growing.
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Ben: I want to scale,
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and that's what I've been
really stuck on.
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Lemonis: And so has
your business gone down?
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Ben: Yes.
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Lemonis: Though owner Ben Busko
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has overcome
incredible challenges...
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Ben: I was diagnosed
with Asperger's Syndrome,
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which is a form of autism.
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Lemonis: ...he still
struggles as a leader.
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Victoria: There's a lot
of finger pointing
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that I'm not doing my job.
I'm not doing anything.
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I'm costing the company money.
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Lemonis: Putting not only
his company at risk...
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This is a terrible
representation of the business.
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I'm embarrassed.
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...but his most important
relationships, as well.
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Ben: Then I said,
"Well, what's the plan?"
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Is there a timeline?
Kristin: You didn't say that.
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Ben: Something like that.
Kristin: You didn't say that.
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You didn't say that.
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That's when you said you're the
"Real Housewives of New Jersey."
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Lemonis: If I can't help him
learn to respect his staff...
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Ben: To be frank, I don't really
see a relationship continuing.
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Lemonis: ...and relinquish
some control...
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Do you not trust people?
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Ben: No, I don't.
Kristin: There's been times
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when he's said to me
he hasn't trusted me.
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Lemonis: ...this business
may just wither away.
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Ben: This is my home.
This is my life.
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Sometimes I can't shake it
if I don't feel comfortable.
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Lemonis: My name
is Marcus Lemonis,
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and I risk my own money
to save struggling businesses.
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We're not going to wake up
every morning,
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wondering if we have a job.
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We're going to wake up
every morning
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wondering how many jobs
we have to do.
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It's not always pretty.
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Everything's going to change.
Everything.
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But I do it to save jobs,
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and I do it to make money.
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This...
Let's go to work.
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...is "The Profit."
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♪♪
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The home decor market is huge.
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It's something like
$600 billion,
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which makes it
interesting to me,
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but it also makes me reluctant
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because I know how hard
it is to stand out.
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So, when I heard about
this designer Ben Busko
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who makes nearly everything
he sells,
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I thought,
maybe this is a way in.
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Wow.
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Wow, this place is beautiful.
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Ben's space almost feels
like an oxymoron to New York.
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You go outside, and there's
traffic and sirens and horns.
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And you walk into his store.
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It's quiet.
It's peaceful.
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It's beautifully decorated.
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It just feels like an oasis.
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How are you? I'm Marcus.
Kristin: I'm Kristin.
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Lemonis: Nice to meet you.
The store is gorgeous.
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Kristin: Thank you.
Fernando: Fernando.
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Lemonis: Fernando?
Fernando: Yes.
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Lemonis: Nice to meet you.
I'm Marcus.
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Ben: I'm Benjamin, Mr. Lemonis.
Lemonis: Benjamin, how are you?
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Ben: I'm very well.
Lemonis: Ben or Benjamin?
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Ben: Well,
Benjamin when I'm in trouble.
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Lemonis: You're not in trouble.
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Ben: So, Ben's the way to go.
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Lemonis: Ben,
this store is gorgeous.
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It's really well-merchandised.
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I'm really impressed by it.
Ben: Thanks.
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Lemonis: Is everything in
the store stuff you guys make?
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Ben: About 90%.
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We don't make the books
or the plants.
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Lemonis: You don't
make the books?
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Is he normally this funny?
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Kristin: He's pretty funny.
Ben: No, I'm pretty dry.
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Lemonis: So, you make
all of this stuff?
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Ben: Yep.
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Lemonis: Really nice quality.
Ben: Yeah.
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Lemonis: And all of this?
Ben: Yeah, cocktail napkins.
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I design all the product
that we sell,
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also, that we make.
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Lemonis: Wow.
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Ben: And these are coaster sets.
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We sell a monstrous
amount of them.
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They're a very easy gift
to give, and they're all unique.
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This is,
"The trouble with trouble
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is it starts out as fun."
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Lemonis: "Alcohol you later."
[ Chuckles ]
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These are excellent.
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Did you come up
with all these quotes?
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Ben: For the most part.
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Lemonis:
Everything here you did?
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Ben: Yes, all of the artwork.
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Lemonis: This is all yours, too?
Ben: Yep.
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This is decoupage.
Lemonis: That is the treatment?
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Ben: Yeah, so it's a French word
that just means
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applying paper to glass,
essentially.
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Lemonis: These are awesome.
Ben: They're practical.
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You can use them as a valet.
They're food safe, wipe clean.
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Lemonis: This retails for $68?
Ben: Mm-hmm.
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Lemonis: How are
your margins on this?
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Ben: They fluctuate
between 87% to 90% something.
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Lemonis: Percent?
Ben: Yeah.
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Lemonis: Oftentimes,
when I go into different
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retail businesses,
they have reasonable margins.
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45%, 50%, maybe even 55%.
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The reason that Ben's margins
are so much higher
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is because
there isn't a middle man.
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He's a vertically
integrated company,
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which means that he makes
everything that he sells.
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Take this $68 tray.
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A regular retailer would
buy it from a wholesaler
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for about half the price,
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giving them
a decent margin of 50%.
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But in the case of Ben,
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he actually makes the product
for maybe $6.80,
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and so he keeps all of
the margin, like, 90% of it.
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Being a good designer is hard.
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But being a good manufacturer
is also hard,
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and the fact that Ben is
good at both of them?
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I would say that's what
makes him really special.
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Who's your biggest
customer today?
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Ben: We sell to national chains
like Barnes & Noble.
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Kristin, who else do we sell to?
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Kristin: Dillard's.
Ben: Dillard's, okay.
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I want to scale and grow,
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and that's what
I've been really stuck on.
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Lemonis: And so has
your business gone down?
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Ben: Yes.
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Lemonis: Who did you
used to sell to that was
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a big part of your business
that's gone away?
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Ben: Anthropologie.
Lemonis: What else?
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Ben: Nordstrom.
Lemonis: Anything else?
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Ben: Neiman Marcus.
Lemonis: Okay.
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So what is the biggest problem
this company has?
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Ben: Staffing the right
positions and retention.
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Lemonis: And how's communication
in the company?
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Ben: In terms of, like...
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Lemonis: Do people understand
what's happening?
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Are you a good communicator?
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Ben: I try to be that.
I try to follow a lot of rules.
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So, like, this is
a binder we have.
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This is an example
of what they initial every day.
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Lemonis: So employee entry,
9:45 a.m. --
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Disarm the alarm,
open the register,
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turn on the main store lights,
answer the phone,
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review follow-ups,
be productive.
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Carefully check plants
so they do not die.
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How do you not
carefully check the plant?
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Ben: When Ben's Garden
has a store of dead plants,
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it's just Ben's,
which is a deli, so...
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[ Laughter ]
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Lemonis:
That actually was funny.
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What is your role, by the way?
Kristin: I'm the Chief of Staff.
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Lemonis: Meaning that everybody
that works in the company
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actually gets
their communication from you?
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Ben: She's very involved
in wholesale.
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I'm communicating as, like,
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an owner would
to their employees.
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Lemonis: Who trains them?
Kristin: Ben.
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He goes through training
when they start.
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Lemonis: Wouldn't the chief
of staff be doing that?
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Ben: She's very involved
in managing the --
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We have a 14,000-square-foot
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warehouse.
Lemonis: Oh, you do?
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Ben: Where we make
all these things.
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Lemonis: So, this whole section
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is third-party vendors.
Ben: Yep.
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Lemonis: So who buys the stuff
that you don't make
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for the store?
Ben: I do.
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Lemonis: So let me
understand this, Ben.
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You're the designer.
Ben: Yep.
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Lemonis: You're the buyer.
Ben: Yep.
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Merchandiser.
Lemonis: The merchandiser.
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You're the chief communicator.
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So you have your hands full.
Ben: Yep.
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♪♪
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Lemonis: And how long have
you had this business?
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Ben: Since I was 8.
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Lemonis: How old are you now?
Ben: 34.
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Lemonis: Was it a legitimate
business at 8?
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Ben: Yep.
Lemonis: That's awesome.
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Ben: Growing up,
it was really --
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My parents thought I was,
like, really special.
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Like, "Wow, this kid's
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making all this stuff
and selling all these things."
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But I wasn't communicating
with kids on the playground.
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I was water coloring at home.
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About seven years ago,
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I was diagnosed
with Asperger's Syndrome,
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which is a form of autism.
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And I think more creatively
than emotionally.
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Lemonis: And what prompted that?
Ben: Just noticed socially,
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like, I wasn't picking up
on certain things.
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I don't actually generally
liked to be touched,
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which after y--
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Lemonis:
That's going to be a problem.
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I'm a super-big hugger.
Ben: I think I --
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It kind of just creeps me out
when, like,
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I don't know someone.
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I'd be, like, okay,
this is really nice.
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And then we can let go
at any point you'd like to.
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Lemonis: So you have
a very special talent.
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Ben: Uh-huh.
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Lemonis: And you're
ridiculously creative.
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I'd love to see the warehouse.
Ben: Great.
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Lemonis: And so if
we could meet there,
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that would be great.
Ben: Okay.
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Lemonis: Then I really
want to understand
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how it all comes together.
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Ben: Okay, thank you very much.
Lemonis: Great job.
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♪♪
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♪♪
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Kristin: Hey, Marcus!
Lemonis: Hi.
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This place is huge.
Kristin: Yeah.
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Lemonis: How many
square feet is this?
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Kristin: I think it's 14,000.
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Lemonis: Wow.
Can I get a tour?
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Kristin: Yeah, of course.
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So, right when you walk in --
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Ben: Okay, so you guys
just entered --
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You just entered through a door.
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Lemonis: Is it all right
if she does it,
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or do you want to do it?
Ben: Oh! Please.
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Kristin: So right
when you walk in,
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this is where we're hoping
to set up a sales team.
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Lemonis: Okay,
you don't have one today.
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Kristin: No.
Ben: Can we talk about the door?
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Kristin: Sure.
Lemonis: Sure.
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Ben: Okay, so this complex
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was built by Irving Bush,
and he deve--
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he made his fortune
importing bananas.
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Which is why our door
is banana yellow.
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Lemonis: Because you like
the history of it all?
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Ben: Yep. So, Kristin,
you can now join in.
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Lemonis: So this is --
this area is setup
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for the future
sales organization?
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Kristin: Yep, we hope
to build a whole sales team.
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Ben: This is where the previous
sales organization was.
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Lemonis: And what happened
to the previous one?
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Ben: They turned out
not to be so smart.
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Lemonis: Who was
their leader, you?
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Ben: Yes.
Lemonis: So...
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when you say
they weren't good enough,
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some of that culpability
has to fall back on you.
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Ben: I've never thought
of it in that way.
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Ben: Can you and I look
at the rest of the warehouse?
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I'm just going to take
some time with her.
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Ben: Okay.
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What do I do? Do I leave?
Kristin: Yeah, you --
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Ben: I'm kind of curious
to see what he looks at.
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Lemonis: So, all of this
here is inventory, yeah?
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Kristin: Yes, so all of
everything in the metal racks
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is going to be finished goods.
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Lemonis: All finished goods?
Kristin: Finished goods.
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Lemonis: How long
have you been here?
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Kristin: It's gonna
be two years in October.
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Lemonis: Two years.
What's it like working with him?
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Kristin: He does, like,
really have a great vision.
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Lemonis: Oh, yeah.
Kristin: You know?
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And, like, really,
there's not like a nicer person
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that you would want
to help succeed.
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So, like, that's what drives me.
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Lemonis: What's causing
the revolving door?
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Kristin: I think from
doing this for 25 years,
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he's got the highest standards
of all of us.
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Lemonis: So, why do I see
empties everywhere?
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Like this is an example.
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Ben: We're back ordered
on crystal paperweights,
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and we don't have 4x6 trays.
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Why don't we take a look
at a pick ticket?
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So these would be
examples of orders
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that determine
the pick quantity.
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This says we have zero on hand.
We need to make four. So --
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Lemonis: Let's keep going.
"How do you spell love," a 4x6.
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Ben: That's a best seller.
Lemonis: Zero in stock.
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Zero in hand.
Make four.
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Zero on hand. Make four.
Zero on hand. Make four.
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A lot of zeroes here.
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Ben: I'm apprehensive to spend
that much money on 4x6 trays
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when I have $700,000 worth
of on-hand inventory.
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Lemonis: You're telling me
that there's 700,000
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of inventory in here?
Ben: Yes.
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Lemonis: But what you have
is the wrong stuff.
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Unfortunately,
you have to actually put
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the right stuff on the shelf
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while you work out
of the bad stuff
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because you create gridlock.
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Ben has what I call
"inventory gridlock."
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He's made some choices
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with particular products
that aren't selling,
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and he's unwilling
to liquidate them.
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He has other products that are
selling at a super-fast rate,
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but because he doesn't have
the working capital
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because it's tied up
in bad products,
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he can't even fulfill the orders
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of the products
that people do want.
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Essentially, like,
locking up everything.
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Bad inventory management
and the wrong inventory
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are the two things
that kill companies
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when they least expect it.
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Okay, do you have
your financials?
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Ben: Yeah.
They're in this folder.
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Lemonis: Okay.
So, it shows that last year,
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the business lost $78,000.
Ben: Yes.
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Something shifted
with the economy
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and how people spend money,
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which has dramatically
affected our bottom line.
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Lemonis: Consumers
or your wholesale customers?
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Ben: Our wholesale customers,
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so they're stocking less
of our product.
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Even though they're selling out
of our product, they're --
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we're either not getting
back to them soon enough,
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and they'll be unhappy
with us --
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Lemonis: Or you don't
have it in stock.
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Ben: Uhh, yes.
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Lemonis: Okay,
that's essentially
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the business problem.
Ben: Yes.
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Lemonis: So $1,659,000
in total revenue,
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and of that,
$675,000 of it came
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from your retail stores.
Ben: Right.
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Lemonis: So the total,
the wholesale did $984,000.
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Ben: Um, I wouldn't know off
the top of my hand.
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We have a challenge
with our records.
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So I have a business consultant,
Barry Moltz.
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And so he's supposed to be
helping manage the finances.
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But since we've been
working together,
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which is now over two years,
sales have gotten worse.
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Lemonis: Because of his
direction or yours?
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Ben: Well, his influence,
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but I-I've been trying
to trust in him.
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Lemonis: Do you
not trust people?
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Ben: No, I don't.
Lemonis: Okay, well.
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That's problem number one.
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Thank you for telling me that.
Ben: I don't --
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There are still times when
Kristin will be upset with me
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because I will say something,
and it'll seem --
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It'll come off as me
not trusting her.
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Kristin: There's been times when
he's said he hasn't trusted me.
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Lemonis: So, in order
for us to work together,
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we would need to spend
a disproportionate
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amount of time working on
how you think about people,
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which means changing the way
you think about employees,
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allowing Kristin to actually
run a part of the business
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where you may not be involved,
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and I recognize what you called
and labeled a disability,
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and I want to build
an infrastructure around you
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that allows the other people
to not have to go through
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whatever the collateral damage
is from it.
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Ben: Thank you.
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Lemonis: For their sake...
Ben: No, I want it for them.
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Lemonis:
...and for the business's sake.
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Get the best out of you.
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So, Ben, I want to make
a commitment to you.
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I want to make an investment.
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♪♪
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I want to invest $200,000
for 25% of the business.
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♪♪
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Okay?
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All of a sudden,
your face changed.
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Ben: It wasn't
what I was expecting.
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Lemonis:
What were you expecting?
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Ben: Uh, like...
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a million and a half.
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Lemonis: A million
and a half dollars?
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Ben: Yeah, I think the business
is worth at least $5 million.
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That's what I'm thinking.
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Barry: I'm frustrated
that I can't help more.
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I put together
all sorts of plans
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that I thought was the way
to go forward for Ben,
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and we haven't really been able
to implement any of those plans.
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Lemonis: Do you trust Barry?
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Ben: Uh, uh...
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No.
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♪♪
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Ben: I think the business
is worth at least $5 million.
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That's what I'm thinking.
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♪♪
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Lemonis: For me, the business is
worth no more than a million.
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'Cause the business doesn't
make any money today,
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and it's not that big.
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For me, I don't want to
invest more than $400,000,
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because I don't think
the business needs
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more than $400,000.
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My offer is $400,000,
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and that would mean
that for $400,000,
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I'd get 40% of the business.
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Ben: Right.
Lemonis: Right?
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Ben: Yeah. Um...
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Um...
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Lemonis: You want to talk
about it with her
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by yourself for a minute?
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Ben: Um...
Lemonis: I'm gonna let you guys
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talk for a minute.
Ben: I'm just -- I'm just --
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Lemonis: I'ma let you
talk for a minute.
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Kristin: I think that you're
at kinda, like, a crossroad.
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Ben: Yeah.
Kristin: And you have to decide.
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Ben: I think I real--
I think I need his help.
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Kristin: So what's
the hesitation?
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Ben: That I guess now the clock
has started, and it's tick.
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And we really have to
be on our game,
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and that makes me anxious.
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Kristin: But the payoff
could be big.
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Ben: Yeah.
No, no, no, absolutely.
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So it's yes.
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Kristin: Okay.
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Ben: So now I have to hug him.
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Lemonis: Okay.
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Ben: So, we came
to a conclusion.
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I would, um...
I would like to be --
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I'd be honored to work with you.
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Lemonis: That's awesome.
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I would be, as well.
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♪♪
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Congratulations.
Ben: Thank you.
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Kristin: We're so excited.
Lemonis: Congratulations.
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Ben: Very excited.
Now we're going to --
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Now we're gonna hug.
[ Chuckles ]
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Lemonis: See,
that's not so bad, is it?
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Ben: No, no, it's not.
It's fantastic.
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Lemonis: All right.
I'll see you guys.
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♪♪
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We're going to have a little
team meeting real quick.
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The last time I was here
before I left,
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I made a decision to make
an investment in Ben's Garden.
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So I've agreed
to invest $400,000.
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We're going to work on things
like inventory and sales,
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and we're going to go see
a rep or two to improve
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your wholesale business.
Ben: Okay.
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Lemonis: Okay?
That's the easy stuff.
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One thing that I'm worried about
is fixing the culture
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of how people communicate
and how they get along.
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It appears it's a little broken.
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So, what could be improved?
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Victoria: Um...
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I guess being --
being blamed for things.
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It's a lot of finger pointing
that I'm not doing my job.
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I'm not doing anything.
I'm costing the company money.
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Sometimes I have felt that way.
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Ben: I mean, I'm really sorry
that you would feel that way.
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Lemonis: Ben,
what we're gonna work on
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is the people side of things.
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Ben: Right.
Lemonis: Okay?
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Ben: Mm-hmm.
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Lemonis: So, I want to get
back to work,
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but what I do want to do is,
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I want to see one product
from every category.
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A glass piece, a note card,
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and just put everything out.
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thank you.
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Kristin: So, I'll grab
something from each.
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Ben: I can grab the stuff.
Can you run the report?
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Ben: Actually, going forward,
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Kristin is going to be
in charge of the inventory.
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Ben: Oh.
Lemonis: Okay?
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Kristin: Okay.
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Lemonis: It's clear to me
after this discussion
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with all the employees
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that there's a breakdown
in communication.
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So my plan for this
is very clear.
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Ben is going to focus on
creating and designing
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and coming up with new products,
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and he's going to allow Kristin
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to manage the staff
and interact with them
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in a way that can keep things
moving in all departments.
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♪♪
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So there's one, two, three,
four, five, six,
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seven, eight, nine things.
Ben: Mm-hmm.
482
00:18:21,334 --> 00:18:23,868
Lemonis: Are they in --
is this in the right order?
483
00:18:23,903 --> 00:18:25,336
Ben: Of best selling?
Lemonis: Of revenue?
484
00:18:25,371 --> 00:18:27,538
Kristin: Yeah.
Ben: I don't think so.
485
00:18:27,574 --> 00:18:30,041
Lemonis: So the first thing
is the decoupage.
486
00:18:30,076 --> 00:18:31,442
Kristin: There you go.
487
00:18:31,478 --> 00:18:32,710
Lemonis: Picture frames.
Ben: Picture frames.
488
00:18:32,745 --> 00:18:34,378
These have exploded.
489
00:18:34,414 --> 00:18:37,615
Paperweights we sell for people
who can't afford a tray.
490
00:18:37,650 --> 00:18:39,317
Lemonis: Okay.
Ben: Magnets. Pillows.
491
00:18:39,352 --> 00:18:41,085
And artwork.
492
00:18:41,121 --> 00:18:43,888
Kristin: So all three of these
don't really do that well.
493
00:18:43,923 --> 00:18:46,457
Lemonis: Six of them are great.
Three of them are terrible.
494
00:18:46,493 --> 00:18:47,959
Kristin: I would have trouble
placing these in --
495
00:18:47,994 --> 00:18:49,894
Lemonis: Great.
Don't ever make these again.
496
00:18:49,929 --> 00:18:51,896
Ben: The margins are
really great on this.
497
00:18:51,931 --> 00:18:54,499
Lemonis: It doesn't matter.
That's not her point.
498
00:18:54,534 --> 00:18:56,934
Her point is,
is that you don't sell it.
499
00:18:56,970 --> 00:18:58,769
So who cares?
Ben: No, but we do --
500
00:18:58,805 --> 00:19:00,571
We just don't sell a lot of 'em.
Kristin: We don't sell enough.
501
00:19:00,607 --> 00:19:02,340
Lemonis: To justify it?
Kristin: Yeah.
502
00:19:02,375 --> 00:19:05,109
Lemonis: Should these go away?
Should the pillows go away?
503
00:19:05,145 --> 00:19:06,677
Kristin: I like
to keep it moving.
504
00:19:06,713 --> 00:19:07,979
They're not coming back.
505
00:19:08,014 --> 00:19:09,280
Lemonis:
Should the artwork go away?
506
00:19:09,315 --> 00:19:10,815
Ben: No, I would be devastated.
507
00:19:10,850 --> 00:19:13,284
Kristin: I don't think
we sell a lot of those.
508
00:19:13,319 --> 00:19:15,319
Lemonis: So, if these
are gonna go away,
509
00:19:15,355 --> 00:19:19,023
you have to start to replace
three or four things.
510
00:19:19,058 --> 00:19:22,426
Three or four new ones need
to be born and developed by you.
511
00:19:22,462 --> 00:19:25,363
We're not gonna stock stuff
that doesn't sell.
512
00:19:25,398 --> 00:19:30,501
Ben: Um...I would like to get
into candles in a big way.
513
00:19:30,537 --> 00:19:32,203
Lemonis: Okay, so that's one.
What else?
514
00:19:32,238 --> 00:19:33,704
Ben: Wrapping paper.
515
00:19:33,740 --> 00:19:35,273
Lemonis: Wrapping paper,
I have a source for that.
516
00:19:35,308 --> 00:19:36,674
Ben: Wallpaper.
517
00:19:36,709 --> 00:19:38,276
Lemonis: If you want
to be in that space,
518
00:19:38,311 --> 00:19:39,944
that's something we can explore.
519
00:19:39,979 --> 00:19:41,712
By eliminating
the three bottom sellers
520
00:19:41,748 --> 00:19:44,215
of pillows, artwork,
and magnets,
521
00:19:44,250 --> 00:19:47,985
I'm not only going to free up
cash for the top-selling items,
522
00:19:48,021 --> 00:19:50,188
but I'm going to replace
those three items
523
00:19:50,223 --> 00:19:52,823
with in-demand items
like wallpaper,
524
00:19:52,859 --> 00:19:54,492
wrapping paper, and candles.
525
00:19:54,527 --> 00:19:57,328
Giving us a chance
to regain our foothold
526
00:19:57,363 --> 00:19:58,663
in the wholesale market.
527
00:19:58,698 --> 00:20:01,132
If Ben takes
his skill of design,
528
00:20:01,167 --> 00:20:05,203
and he applies them to more
readily digestible products,
529
00:20:05,238 --> 00:20:08,039
then by definition,
you're going to sell more.
530
00:20:08,074 --> 00:20:14,845
♪♪
531
00:20:14,881 --> 00:20:16,380
Lemonis: Guys...
Barry: Hi.
532
00:20:16,416 --> 00:20:17,748
Ben: Hey, how are you?
Lemonis: Barry?
533
00:20:17,784 --> 00:20:19,417
I'm Marcus.
Barry: Hey, Marcus. Barry.
534
00:20:19,452 --> 00:20:20,918
Nice to meet you.
Lemonis: Nice to meet you.
535
00:20:20,954 --> 00:20:22,353
Hey, buddy.
Ben: Hey, how are you?
536
00:20:22,388 --> 00:20:24,188
Lemonis: I want
to address the concerns
537
00:20:24,224 --> 00:20:27,058
that Ben has about Barry,
his business consultant.
538
00:20:27,093 --> 00:20:28,826
So, I thought
it would be a good idea
539
00:20:28,861 --> 00:20:31,729
to actually get Barry and Ben
in the same room
540
00:20:31,764 --> 00:20:33,564
and find out if Ben's concerns
541
00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:37,101
are actually as legitimate
as he thinks they are.
542
00:20:37,136 --> 00:20:38,436
How long have you guys
been working together?
543
00:20:38,471 --> 00:20:39,770
Barry: About two years.
544
00:20:39,806 --> 00:20:42,406
Ben is really a genius
at what he does.
545
00:20:42,442 --> 00:20:44,775
He's really creative,
so I've tried to have him
546
00:20:44,811 --> 00:20:47,878
bring people in sales,
bring people in production,
547
00:20:47,914 --> 00:20:49,580
bring people
in customer service,
548
00:20:49,616 --> 00:20:52,583
but they've been driven away
either by the environment
549
00:20:52,619 --> 00:20:54,785
or sometimes
you get upset at them.
550
00:20:54,821 --> 00:20:56,754
They stay two weeks,
or they stay a month
551
00:20:56,789 --> 00:20:58,155
or whatever it is,
and then they leave.
552
00:20:58,191 --> 00:21:00,458
I'm frustrated
that I can't help more.
553
00:21:00,493 --> 00:21:02,293
Lemonis: So were you
helping him get his financials
554
00:21:02,328 --> 00:21:04,996
organized, as well?
Barry: I was helping monitoring
555
00:21:05,031 --> 00:21:06,464
getting the financials
organized, yes.
556
00:21:06,499 --> 00:21:08,132
Lemonis: Okay.
Barry: They're better
557
00:21:08,167 --> 00:21:10,067
than they were two years ago.
Lemonis: Oh, really? Wow.
558
00:21:10,103 --> 00:21:12,737
Barry: I put together
all sorts of plans
559
00:21:12,772 --> 00:21:15,239
that I thought was the way
to go forward for Ben,
560
00:21:15,275 --> 00:21:18,542
and we haven't really been able
to implement any of those plans.
561
00:21:18,578 --> 00:21:21,445
So I'm frustrated that
we haven't been able
562
00:21:21,481 --> 00:21:25,283
to take the necessary steps
in order to make much progress.
563
00:21:25,318 --> 00:21:27,285
Ben: But I hesitate
when you say, like,
564
00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,253
your financials are
in a good place because --
565
00:21:29,289 --> 00:21:32,256
Barry: I said they're better
than they were.
566
00:21:32,292 --> 00:21:34,325
Filing your tax returns
and not filing your tax returns,
567
00:21:34,360 --> 00:21:35,726
that's being in a better place.
568
00:21:35,762 --> 00:21:38,095
Lemonis: Do you trust Barry?
569
00:21:38,131 --> 00:21:40,765
Ben: Uh...
570
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,401
no.
571
00:21:43,436 --> 00:21:45,503
To be -- To be frank,
572
00:21:45,538 --> 00:21:47,672
I don't -- I don't --
I don't really see --
573
00:21:47,707 --> 00:21:49,974
I don't really see
a relationship continuing.
574
00:21:50,009 --> 00:21:52,977
♪♪
575
00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,148
Kristin: We'll let those go.
These go.
576
00:21:57,183 --> 00:21:58,849
Those are gone.
577
00:21:58,885 --> 00:22:01,152
Ben: That seems --
That seems like poor judgment.
578
00:22:01,187 --> 00:22:02,687
Lemonis: Don't say
we have poor judgment.
579
00:22:02,722 --> 00:22:04,655
She doesn't want all this stuff
in her inventory,
580
00:22:04,691 --> 00:22:06,924
and you don't want to say
goodbye to the size option.
581
00:22:06,959 --> 00:22:09,126
Ben: No, I don't want
to say goodbye to a sale.
582
00:22:10,897 --> 00:22:14,165
♪♪
583
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,534
Barry: I just want to help,
and by not being here,
584
00:22:16,569 --> 00:22:19,170
if that helps you,
if you needed this meeting
585
00:22:19,205 --> 00:22:21,339
to be able to separate from me,
that's okay.
586
00:22:21,374 --> 00:22:23,007
As you know,
I've always wanted to do
587
00:22:23,042 --> 00:22:24,875
what was in your best interest
588
00:22:24,911 --> 00:22:28,279
because in the end, I love you,
and I love what you're doing.
589
00:22:28,314 --> 00:22:29,680
And if I can be a part of it,
great.
590
00:22:29,716 --> 00:22:31,782
But if I can help by not
being a part of it,
591
00:22:31,818 --> 00:22:33,484
that's also great, too, Ben.
592
00:22:33,519 --> 00:22:35,019
Ben: I'm really good
at hiring people.
593
00:22:35,054 --> 00:22:37,855
I'm not really good
at the other part.
594
00:22:37,890 --> 00:22:39,924
Lemonis: Okay.
I think you need to --
595
00:22:39,959 --> 00:22:42,960
I think you need to stay around.
Barry: I would agree.
596
00:22:42,995 --> 00:22:45,429
Lemonis: You're going
to learn how to just not
597
00:22:45,465 --> 00:22:46,997
be so dismissive of people.
598
00:22:47,033 --> 00:22:49,033
It's not a good quality.
599
00:22:49,068 --> 00:22:51,869
And I think you need to stay
around because he has to learn
600
00:22:51,904 --> 00:22:55,539
how to work with people
in uncomfortable situations.
601
00:22:55,575 --> 00:22:57,675
And I need him to focus
on making new, cool stuff
602
00:22:57,710 --> 00:22:58,909
so he can generate some revenue.
603
00:22:58,945 --> 00:23:00,211
Barry: I would agree with that.
604
00:23:00,246 --> 00:23:02,213
Lemonis: I want Ben
to understand
605
00:23:02,248 --> 00:23:04,882
that everybody has a role
in the company.
606
00:23:04,917 --> 00:23:06,751
And whether
that's Barry fixing the books
607
00:23:06,786 --> 00:23:08,552
or Kristin working
with the staff,
608
00:23:08,588 --> 00:23:10,988
that he has to rely
on other people
609
00:23:11,023 --> 00:23:14,592
to help make the business
as good as he wants it to be.
610
00:23:14,627 --> 00:23:16,527
He can't do it all himself.
611
00:23:16,562 --> 00:23:17,995
Ben: I just want it to be --
612
00:23:18,030 --> 00:23:19,830
I don't want it to be,
like, uncomfortable.
613
00:23:19,866 --> 00:23:22,233
Lemonis: For who?
Ben: For anyone.
614
00:23:22,268 --> 00:23:24,368
Lemonis: Barry's
not uncomfortable.
615
00:23:24,404 --> 00:23:26,170
Ben: Okay.
Lemonis: You want to hug Barry?
616
00:23:26,205 --> 00:23:28,439
Barry: I've hugged him before.
This is not the first time.
617
00:23:28,474 --> 00:23:30,808
Ben: Oh, Barry,
you're a germ freak.
618
00:23:30,843 --> 00:23:32,676
Barry: That's not true.
I hug people.
619
00:23:32,712 --> 00:23:34,578
I just don't kiss them.
Lemonis: High five?
620
00:23:34,614 --> 00:23:36,447
Is that permitted, or --
Ben: Yeah.
621
00:23:36,482 --> 00:23:38,082
Lemonis: Okay.
No, I'm not a germ freak.
622
00:23:38,117 --> 00:23:40,084
Lemonis: Good.
623
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,921
♪♪
624
00:23:43,956 --> 00:23:45,790
I'm taking Ben to Agilex.
625
00:23:45,825 --> 00:23:48,959
It's one of the country's
premiere fragrance developers.
626
00:23:48,995 --> 00:23:50,728
I want to accomplish two things.
627
00:23:50,763 --> 00:23:54,031
One, I want him to be able
to launch his candle business,
628
00:23:54,066 --> 00:23:56,434
which is a replacement
for an under performer,
629
00:23:56,469 --> 00:23:58,235
but more importantly,
630
00:23:58,271 --> 00:24:02,406
I wanted to see what his actual
creative process was like.
631
00:24:02,442 --> 00:24:04,875
Ben: Hi, guys, I'm Ben.
All: Hi, Ben! Welcome!
632
00:24:04,911 --> 00:24:06,143
Natalie: This is the team
that put together
633
00:24:06,179 --> 00:24:07,545
our presentation today.
634
00:24:07,580 --> 00:24:08,913
Ben: Okay.
Natalie: They did some work,
635
00:24:08,948 --> 00:24:11,081
and they looked
at your brand online.
636
00:24:11,117 --> 00:24:12,950
Christie: Products are gorgeous.
Ben: Thank you.
637
00:24:12,985 --> 00:24:15,453
Christie: So, the job
of marketing is to inspire,
638
00:24:15,488 --> 00:24:17,955
and given that your company name
is Ben's Garden,
639
00:24:17,990 --> 00:24:20,958
we immediately took it
to the modern farmhouse,
640
00:24:20,993 --> 00:24:23,494
which is a really big trend
among consumers right now.
641
00:24:23,529 --> 00:24:26,096
Ben: Right.
642
00:24:26,132 --> 00:24:27,898
Christie: But, like --
So, I'm imagining
643
00:24:27,934 --> 00:24:29,800
a collection of scents.
644
00:24:29,836 --> 00:24:33,737
There were four main categories
of sentiment
645
00:24:33,773 --> 00:24:35,272
that people would
connect with.
646
00:24:35,308 --> 00:24:38,943
So, like, family, love,
friendship, and baby.
647
00:24:38,978 --> 00:24:42,346
So, I'm imagining
four main categories
648
00:24:42,381 --> 00:24:44,315
that form a collection.
649
00:24:44,350 --> 00:24:46,283
Christie:
Let's smell a little bit.
650
00:24:46,319 --> 00:24:47,618
Natalie: Yeah, let's smell.
651
00:24:47,653 --> 00:24:49,220
Nancy: Do you see
a little bit of greenness
652
00:24:49,255 --> 00:24:50,521
in the top note?
Ben: I do, I do.
653
00:24:50,556 --> 00:24:51,856
This one is too light
654
00:24:51,891 --> 00:24:53,324
and a little too green.
655
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:54,425
Lemonis: Let's keep it rolling.
656
00:24:54,460 --> 00:24:56,160
Ben: This I don't really smell.
657
00:24:56,195 --> 00:24:59,830
Nancy: It's based upon vanilla,
bourbon, and woodiness.
658
00:24:59,866 --> 00:25:01,832
Natalie: Do you like it?
Ben: No.
659
00:25:01,868 --> 00:25:04,034
To me, it smells
like heavy floral.
660
00:25:04,070 --> 00:25:05,603
This is a no.
661
00:25:05,638 --> 00:25:07,771
I can't identify the components.
662
00:25:07,807 --> 00:25:09,006
Nancy: Basil and sage.
663
00:25:09,041 --> 00:25:10,508
Ben: Oh, basil is popular.
664
00:25:10,543 --> 00:25:11,775
Nancy: Do you want
to smell it again?
665
00:25:11,811 --> 00:25:14,512
Ben: No.
666
00:25:14,547 --> 00:25:17,615
Lemonis: I think Ben kind of
lacks the communication filter
667
00:25:17,650 --> 00:25:19,350
that most of us have.
668
00:25:19,385 --> 00:25:21,619
And so he just tells you
exactly what he thinks.
669
00:25:21,654 --> 00:25:24,488
And if you don't know him,
you could get offended.
670
00:25:24,524 --> 00:25:26,190
But it's also part of his charm.
671
00:25:26,225 --> 00:25:28,959
Ben, I think you got to
really try to collaborate
672
00:25:28,995 --> 00:25:31,362
better than this.
Ben: Okay.
673
00:25:31,397 --> 00:25:34,131
♪♪
674
00:25:34,166 --> 00:25:35,399
So, this one's pleasant.
675
00:25:35,434 --> 00:25:37,735
It smells like lilac
or something.
676
00:25:37,770 --> 00:25:39,236
Nancy: And you're
absolutely right.
677
00:25:39,272 --> 00:25:40,704
And jasmine.
Ben: Okay.
678
00:25:40,740 --> 00:25:42,239
Nancy: And there's
some citrus on top.
679
00:25:42,275 --> 00:25:44,208
Lemonis: So that's a yes.
Ben: This would be a yes.
680
00:25:44,243 --> 00:25:45,876
Lemonis: So we have one yes.
681
00:25:45,912 --> 00:25:49,079
Ben: This, I like the citrus.
682
00:25:49,115 --> 00:25:53,584
I think that it would be
directly geared to, like --
683
00:25:53,619 --> 00:25:55,519
"Love you to the moon and back"
would be a quote
684
00:25:55,555 --> 00:25:57,221
we could use
or something like that.
685
00:25:57,256 --> 00:25:59,189
All: Aww.
Lemonis: There's no question
686
00:25:59,225 --> 00:26:02,059
that Ben has unbelievable ideas.
687
00:26:02,094 --> 00:26:05,229
He is one of the smartest people
that I have ever worked with,
688
00:26:05,264 --> 00:26:07,231
and he has one
of the worst filters
689
00:26:07,266 --> 00:26:09,099
I've ever experienced
in my life.
690
00:26:09,135 --> 00:26:12,403
And so they'll go work
on creating libraries
691
00:26:12,438 --> 00:26:14,004
of fragrances.
Ben: Mm-hmm.
692
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:15,906
Lemonis: You're gonna go
to work on creating designs
693
00:26:15,942 --> 00:26:17,274
around those four.
694
00:26:17,310 --> 00:26:19,076
Kristin, this is a project.
695
00:26:19,111 --> 00:26:20,544
We have to project manage it.
696
00:26:20,580 --> 00:26:22,413
There's going to be dates
and times and tasks,
697
00:26:22,448 --> 00:26:25,215
and we have to hit 'em, okay?
698
00:26:25,251 --> 00:26:27,284
Thank you so much.
So much fun.
699
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:28,586
Natalie: it was a pleasure
to meet you, Ben.
700
00:26:28,621 --> 00:26:30,421
Thank you so much.
Ben: Thank you.
701
00:26:30,456 --> 00:26:31,622
Thank you again.
Natalie: Thanks, again.
702
00:26:31,657 --> 00:26:33,891
Kristin: Bye, guys.
Thank you.
703
00:26:33,926 --> 00:26:37,094
♪♪
704
00:26:37,129 --> 00:26:38,963
Lemonis: Can we see
all the 10 designs?
Ben: Yes.
705
00:26:38,998 --> 00:26:41,265
Lemonis: Ben is hard at work
designing new products.
706
00:26:41,300 --> 00:26:43,534
You go this done already?
Ben: Yeah.
707
00:26:43,569 --> 00:26:45,703
Lemonis: As part of
our textile initiative,
708
00:26:45,738 --> 00:26:48,706
Ben has created 10 new designs
for wrapping paper.
709
00:26:48,741 --> 00:26:50,074
These are awesome.
Ben: Thank you.
710
00:26:50,109 --> 00:26:51,475
Lemonis: When I look
at this work,
711
00:26:51,510 --> 00:26:54,211
it motivates me
to want to work harder.
712
00:26:54,246 --> 00:26:55,913
Ben: This is my favorite one.
Lemonis: What's this one?
713
00:26:55,948 --> 00:26:57,247
The "hello."
714
00:26:57,283 --> 00:26:58,916
This is actually
really nice-looking.
715
00:26:58,951 --> 00:27:00,718
Next, we're taking Ben's designs
716
00:27:00,753 --> 00:27:03,253
to a textile company
called Flavor Paper.
717
00:27:03,289 --> 00:27:04,622
Jon: Pleasure to meet you.
Lemonis: Nice to meet you.
718
00:27:04,657 --> 00:27:06,290
This is my friend, Ben.
Jon: Hey, Ben.
719
00:27:06,325 --> 00:27:08,626
Lemonis: Where they can
bring his creations to life
720
00:27:08,661 --> 00:27:10,628
in large format as wallpaper.
721
00:27:10,663 --> 00:27:12,796
I mean, that is spectacular.
722
00:27:12,832 --> 00:27:16,567
Jon: I can see doing "hello"
in every language known to man.
723
00:27:16,602 --> 00:27:17,601
Lemonis: Awesome.
724
00:27:17,637 --> 00:27:19,136
Also, Ben is designing
725
00:27:19,171 --> 00:27:21,805
and choosing new packaging
for his candle line.
726
00:27:21,841 --> 00:27:23,807
What's the newest one?
727
00:27:23,843 --> 00:27:25,342
Ben: This one.
728
00:27:25,378 --> 00:27:27,244
Lemonis: Absolutely beautiful.
Ben: Thanks.
729
00:27:27,279 --> 00:27:32,583
♪♪
730
00:27:32,618 --> 00:27:34,785
Kristin: So,
all of these are bad.
731
00:27:34,820 --> 00:27:37,221
Sizes that we're just not
moving forward with.
732
00:27:37,256 --> 00:27:39,123
Lemonis: And then what we'll do
is we'll just build piles
733
00:27:39,158 --> 00:27:41,158
with that, okay?
734
00:27:41,193 --> 00:27:42,826
Kristin continues
to move forward
735
00:27:42,862 --> 00:27:44,528
on the process
of cleansing the inventory,
736
00:27:44,563 --> 00:27:46,964
and I tasked her
with separating out
737
00:27:46,999 --> 00:27:48,999
the top sellers
from the low sellers.
738
00:27:49,035 --> 00:27:51,835
And then take those low sellers
and liquidate them.
739
00:27:51,871 --> 00:27:54,538
Kristin: 6x10, 4x9.
740
00:27:54,573 --> 00:27:56,106
Lemonis: The items
that we're liquidating
741
00:27:56,142 --> 00:27:58,809
aren't just the pillows,
the magnets, and the art,
742
00:27:58,844 --> 00:28:01,979
but the slow movers
inside of the good categories
743
00:28:02,014 --> 00:28:05,049
like the oddball sizes
of the trays.
744
00:28:05,084 --> 00:28:06,850
Kristin: Those are gone.
745
00:28:07,887 --> 00:28:11,021
♪♪
746
00:28:11,057 --> 00:28:15,159
Ben: So we're getting rid
of 8x10, 8x12, and 9x14?
747
00:28:15,194 --> 00:28:17,461
Kristin: Yeah.
748
00:28:17,496 --> 00:28:19,363
Ben: Completely?
Kristin: Yes.
749
00:28:19,398 --> 00:28:21,699
Ben: That seems --
that seems like poor judgment.
750
00:28:21,734 --> 00:28:22,833
Lemonis: Don't say
we have poor judgment.
751
00:28:22,868 --> 00:28:24,234
Don't judge us.
752
00:28:24,270 --> 00:28:26,637
Ben: I think cutting
some of this stuff,
753
00:28:26,672 --> 00:28:28,138
we'll lose opportunity.
754
00:28:28,174 --> 00:28:29,673
Lemonis:
That's not her argument.
755
00:28:29,709 --> 00:28:32,142
Ben: I know her argument.
Lemonis: Her argument is,
756
00:28:32,178 --> 00:28:34,178
she doesn't want all this stuff
in her inventory,
757
00:28:34,213 --> 00:28:36,380
and you don't want to say
goodbye to the size option.
758
00:28:36,415 --> 00:28:39,783
Ben: No, I don't want
to say goodbye to a sale.
759
00:28:41,454 --> 00:28:42,820
Lemonis: If your business
is in trouble,
760
00:28:42,855 --> 00:28:45,222
and you need my help,
log on to...
761
00:28:47,860 --> 00:28:49,960
♪♪
762
00:28:49,995 --> 00:28:52,062
Lemonis: She doesn't want
all this stuff in her inventory,
763
00:28:52,098 --> 00:28:54,331
and you don't want to say
goodbye to the size option.
764
00:28:54,366 --> 00:28:57,768
Ben: No, I don't want
to say goodbye to a sale.
765
00:28:57,803 --> 00:29:00,070
I just want you guys to be aware
766
00:29:00,106 --> 00:29:02,439
of opportunities
I know we will lose.
767
00:29:02,475 --> 00:29:03,874
Lemonis: I don't want
to tie up cash.
768
00:29:03,909 --> 00:29:05,209
I want to put cash in things
769
00:29:05,244 --> 00:29:06,810
that are right
in the strike zone.
770
00:29:06,846 --> 00:29:08,145
Ben: Okay.
Lemonis: Look...
771
00:29:08,180 --> 00:29:10,013
I know that it's hard for Ben
772
00:29:10,049 --> 00:29:11,949
to put his faith
in other people,
773
00:29:11,984 --> 00:29:15,285
but it's my job to push him
along that path.
774
00:29:15,321 --> 00:29:16,820
If he doesn't rely
on other people
775
00:29:16,856 --> 00:29:18,288
to help his business,
776
00:29:18,324 --> 00:29:20,491
I don't know that it could
actually survive.
777
00:29:20,526 --> 00:29:22,459
Do you trust her judgment?
778
00:29:23,829 --> 00:29:25,462
Ben: Um...
779
00:29:25,498 --> 00:29:27,664
I trust her judgment.
780
00:29:27,700 --> 00:29:29,333
Lemonis: So, you're not
going to worry about it?
781
00:29:29,368 --> 00:29:31,201
Ben: I'm not -- I'm not --
I mean, I'm not worried.
782
00:29:31,237 --> 00:29:34,705
I just -- I would like to help.
Whene-- Kristin knows this.
783
00:29:34,740 --> 00:29:36,473
I worry about not
being able to help.
784
00:29:36,509 --> 00:29:37,941
Lemonis:
And we're grateful for that,
785
00:29:37,977 --> 00:29:40,444
but we need you to focus
on making this money.
786
00:29:40,479 --> 00:29:41,578
Ben: Okay.
787
00:29:43,649 --> 00:29:47,551
♪♪
788
00:29:47,586 --> 00:29:49,253
Kristin: This is the scan bob,
789
00:29:49,288 --> 00:29:51,622
and this will show you
exactly how to link it up.
790
00:29:51,657 --> 00:29:54,625
Lemonis: In order to give Ben
more time to focus on design,
791
00:29:54,660 --> 00:29:56,493
I've asked Kristin
to train Fernando
792
00:29:56,529 --> 00:29:58,162
on being the store manager.
793
00:29:58,197 --> 00:30:00,197
Kristin: So go ahead
and click that,
794
00:30:00,232 --> 00:30:03,033
and that kind of, like, links
the iPad to the scanner.
795
00:30:03,068 --> 00:30:04,301
Lemonis: Meanwhile,
Ben is working
796
00:30:04,336 --> 00:30:08,205
on his three new product lines.
797
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,073
And Barry is working
on streamlining
798
00:30:10,109 --> 00:30:13,177
the entire accounting process
with the help of my team.
799
00:30:13,212 --> 00:30:15,312
Barry: You can go in,
and you can actually look
800
00:30:15,347 --> 00:30:18,549
at the journal entries,
but this can't stay where it is.
801
00:30:18,584 --> 00:30:20,818
Lemonis: While I was hoping
that Ben would be happy
802
00:30:20,853 --> 00:30:23,554
about all the progress
and maybe even ease up a little
803
00:30:23,589 --> 00:30:24,888
on Kristin...
Kristin: The problem is,
804
00:30:24,924 --> 00:30:26,657
they're everywhere.
Ben: So, umm --
805
00:30:26,692 --> 00:30:28,358
Kristin: It's not really like --
Ben: They're not everywhere.
806
00:30:28,394 --> 00:30:30,327
They're under
their respective work tables.
807
00:30:30,362 --> 00:30:32,062
Lemonis: ...apparently,
that's not the case.
808
00:30:32,097 --> 00:30:35,199
♪♪
809
00:30:35,234 --> 00:30:36,934
What's happening?
Kristin: Good to see you.
810
00:30:36,969 --> 00:30:39,069
How are you?
Lemonis: Good to see you.
811
00:30:39,104 --> 00:30:41,605
Over the last week,
I've gotten random texts
812
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,508
from both Kristin and Ben
separately expressing
813
00:30:44,543 --> 00:30:46,577
their frustration
with each other.
814
00:30:46,612 --> 00:30:49,580
And rather than going back
and forth like it's high school,
815
00:30:49,615 --> 00:30:51,748
I asked them both to sit down
around the table
816
00:30:51,784 --> 00:30:55,853
and find out exactly
what's going on.
817
00:30:55,888 --> 00:30:57,521
How's it been going
between the two of you?
818
00:30:57,556 --> 00:31:00,524
Ben: Pretty bad.
Lemonis: How come?
819
00:31:00,559 --> 00:31:03,927
Ben: We're having --
We're not communicating.
820
00:31:03,963 --> 00:31:08,198
And her disposition
has changed in saying,
821
00:31:08,234 --> 00:31:10,033
I'm in charge of everything.
822
00:31:10,069 --> 00:31:11,635
Kristin: I've never said that.
823
00:31:11,670 --> 00:31:15,105
Ben: Just because Marcus
gave you more responsibility,
824
00:31:15,140 --> 00:31:16,974
it doesn't give you the right
to say this.
825
00:31:17,009 --> 00:31:18,942
Kristin: I really hate
to break it to you, Ben,
826
00:31:18,978 --> 00:31:21,445
but I've never said that.
Lemonis: Where's the strife
827
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,280
between the two of you
coming from?
828
00:31:23,315 --> 00:31:27,784
Ben: It really started with
the pick up of the merchandise.
829
00:31:27,820 --> 00:31:29,453
Kristin: Inventory.
830
00:31:29,488 --> 00:31:31,889
Lemonis: The inventory
that I had put on the floor,
831
00:31:31,924 --> 00:31:34,925
and a good chunk of it was sold,
and the cash was brought in.
832
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:36,426
Ben: Right, but --
833
00:31:36,462 --> 00:31:38,328
Lemonis: So then what
upset you about that?
834
00:31:38,364 --> 00:31:41,765
Ben: I don't understand how
to steer a ship or how to lead
835
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,934
when I don't know
when things are happening.
836
00:31:43,969 --> 00:31:47,137
When Kristin had sent me
a text message saying,
837
00:31:47,172 --> 00:31:48,805
"The stuff's on a pallet.
838
00:31:48,841 --> 00:31:50,374
The stuff's been palletized."
839
00:31:50,409 --> 00:31:52,309
And then I said,
"Well, what's the plan?
840
00:31:52,344 --> 00:31:54,244
Is there a timeline?"
Kristin: You didn't say that.
841
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:55,879
Ben: Something like that.
Kristin: You didn't say that.
842
00:31:55,915 --> 00:31:58,348
You didn't say that.
You didn't say that.
843
00:31:58,384 --> 00:32:01,418
You did not say that.
I'm sorry, no.
844
00:32:01,453 --> 00:32:03,921
You did not say that.
845
00:32:03,956 --> 00:32:05,856
As always,
you're always fantastic
846
00:32:05,891 --> 00:32:08,025
about communicating.
Ben: Right.
847
00:32:08,060 --> 00:32:10,627
Kristin: And I wrote back,
if it's not working for you,
848
00:32:10,663 --> 00:32:12,629
I could work on it,
and you wrote back, "Doubt it."
849
00:32:12,665 --> 00:32:14,431
Ben: Right, "Doubt it."
Kristin: I mean, doubt it?
850
00:32:14,466 --> 00:32:16,333
Ben: And I never got a response.
Kristin: That's when you said
851
00:32:16,368 --> 00:32:19,503
you're the
"Real Housewives of New Jersey."
852
00:32:19,538 --> 00:32:21,371
This is just so ugly.
853
00:32:21,407 --> 00:32:23,273
Even coming here,
you know, this morning.
854
00:32:23,309 --> 00:32:25,709
It's just, like...
It's ugly.
855
00:32:25,744 --> 00:32:27,344
Lemonis: I really felt
like I was making
856
00:32:27,379 --> 00:32:29,813
a lot of progress with Ben,
but it's obvious to me
857
00:32:29,848 --> 00:32:33,684
that he still is reluctant
to trust people.
858
00:32:33,719 --> 00:32:36,820
When it really comes down to it,
I'm not confident
859
00:32:36,855 --> 00:32:39,823
that Ben's willing
to give up control just yet.
860
00:32:39,858 --> 00:32:41,692
I think the question
that you have to decide is,
861
00:32:41,727 --> 00:32:43,560
do you want to work
with Kristin anymore?
862
00:32:43,595 --> 00:32:45,028
I mean, I think we should
just get to that.
863
00:32:45,064 --> 00:32:48,231
Kristin: Just, yeah.
864
00:32:48,267 --> 00:32:49,967
Ben: Um...
865
00:32:50,002 --> 00:32:53,070
I don't know. I just--
Lemonis: Be honest.
866
00:32:53,105 --> 00:32:56,073
Ben: I think I just, um...
867
00:32:56,108 --> 00:32:57,607
Uh...
868
00:32:59,712 --> 00:33:01,011
Ben: This is, like,
an example of what
869
00:33:01,046 --> 00:33:03,046
your reps on the road would use.
870
00:33:03,082 --> 00:33:04,681
Scott: Just looking
at this product,
871
00:33:04,717 --> 00:33:06,416
we're not going
to necessarily see
872
00:33:06,452 --> 00:33:09,052
what the brand
is really all about.
873
00:33:09,088 --> 00:33:11,588
Ben: I guess this would --
Although -- Uhh...
874
00:33:11,623 --> 00:33:14,057
Lemonis: Ben, I want to just --
I want to just stop.
875
00:33:15,494 --> 00:33:18,962
Lemonis: I think the question
that you have to decide is,
876
00:33:18,998 --> 00:33:20,864
do you want to work
with Kristin anymore?
877
00:33:20,899 --> 00:33:22,199
I mean, I think we should
just get to that.
878
00:33:22,234 --> 00:33:23,867
Kristin: Just, yeah.
879
00:33:23,902 --> 00:33:25,869
Ben: I don't know --
I just -- I, uh...
880
00:33:25,904 --> 00:33:27,471
Lemonis: Be honest.
881
00:33:27,506 --> 00:33:30,674
Ben: It's not that I don't
want to work with her.
882
00:33:30,709 --> 00:33:33,343
It's just that, um...
883
00:33:33,379 --> 00:33:35,846
I guess I'm used
to people not --
884
00:33:35,881 --> 00:33:38,415
people disagreeing with me
and then leaving.
885
00:33:38,450 --> 00:33:40,217
Lemonis: And so is that
what you're anticipating us
886
00:33:40,252 --> 00:33:42,219
both doing?
Ben: Yes.
887
00:33:42,254 --> 00:33:43,720
Lemonis: Is that what
you want us to do?
888
00:33:43,756 --> 00:33:45,022
Ben: No.
889
00:33:47,793 --> 00:33:51,228
This is my home, this business.
890
00:33:51,263 --> 00:33:53,597
This is my life.
891
00:33:53,632 --> 00:33:57,567
And I can't --
sometimes I can't shake it
892
00:33:57,603 --> 00:34:00,237
if I don't feel comfortable.
Lemonis: I understand.
893
00:34:00,272 --> 00:34:02,072
The only way this company
can move forward is
894
00:34:02,107 --> 00:34:07,244
if there are people around you
that you truly trust.
895
00:34:07,279 --> 00:34:11,715
And will take
some criticism from
896
00:34:11,750 --> 00:34:14,684
and not be upset about it.
897
00:34:14,720 --> 00:34:16,920
♪♪
898
00:34:16,955 --> 00:34:18,922
Where do we go from here?
899
00:34:18,957 --> 00:34:21,058
Ben: Kristin and I have
always been most effective
900
00:34:21,093 --> 00:34:22,759
when we work hand-in-hand.
901
00:34:22,795 --> 00:34:26,129
Kristin: Let's give it a whirl.
What do we have to lose?
902
00:34:26,165 --> 00:34:29,800
If anything, like, I kind of see
this as like the bottom.
903
00:34:29,835 --> 00:34:32,469
So we could only kind
of climb back up.
904
00:34:32,504 --> 00:34:34,137
Lemonis: Kristin,
we trust you
905
00:34:34,173 --> 00:34:35,739
to make good decisions
for our business,
906
00:34:35,774 --> 00:34:37,374
and we need you
to actually make them.
907
00:34:37,409 --> 00:34:38,909
Kristin: Okay.
Lemonis: But you got to let her
908
00:34:38,944 --> 00:34:40,877
help you.
Ben: I understand.
909
00:34:40,913 --> 00:34:43,547
Lemonis: Do you feel better?
910
00:34:43,582 --> 00:34:45,282
Ben: Yeah, I do.
911
00:34:45,317 --> 00:34:46,917
Kristin: Thanks.
912
00:34:46,952 --> 00:34:49,052
Lemonis: After Ben vented
his frustrations
913
00:34:49,088 --> 00:34:50,854
and his anxiety about Kristin,
914
00:34:50,889 --> 00:34:53,390
he committed to trying
to do better.
915
00:34:53,425 --> 00:34:54,891
Okay, buddy.
Smile.
916
00:34:54,927 --> 00:34:56,493
Ben: Thank you.
Kristin: Thanks, Marcus.
917
00:34:56,528 --> 00:34:58,728
Lemonis: And he's open-minded
to the idea
918
00:34:58,764 --> 00:35:01,465
that other people can help him
in his business.
919
00:35:01,500 --> 00:35:02,933
That's progress.
920
00:35:02,968 --> 00:35:04,634
Ben: Thank you.
Lemonis: Take care, buddy.
921
00:35:06,705 --> 00:35:13,477
♪♪
922
00:35:13,512 --> 00:35:15,645
Back at the warehouse,
Kristin has been doing
923
00:35:15,681 --> 00:35:17,981
an amazing job
managing the inventory.
924
00:35:18,016 --> 00:35:21,418
Kristin: So I did $20,000
the first two days,
925
00:35:21,453 --> 00:35:23,687
and then yesterday,
I probably sold another $10,000,
926
00:35:23,722 --> 00:35:25,288
so it's probably like
40 grand all-in.
927
00:35:25,324 --> 00:35:27,090
Lemonis: Have you been able
to order raw materials
928
00:35:27,126 --> 00:35:29,025
that solve our cold products?
Kristin: yes.
929
00:35:29,061 --> 00:35:29,993
Lemonis: Great.
930
00:35:30,028 --> 00:35:31,361
And Ben is staying focused
931
00:35:31,396 --> 00:35:32,963
on the development
of the new products.
932
00:35:32,998 --> 00:35:35,165
Natalie: This is all
the individual ingredients.
933
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,200
Ben: Wow.
Lemonis: So he's back at Agilex,
934
00:35:37,236 --> 00:35:39,603
finalizing the scent
and candle line.
935
00:35:39,638 --> 00:35:41,738
Natalie: Okay, I'm going
to make this one 6%, okay?
936
00:35:41,773 --> 00:35:43,440
Ben: Yeah, I love it.
937
00:35:43,475 --> 00:35:45,142
Lemonis:
And completing the designs
938
00:35:45,177 --> 00:35:47,144
for the wallpaper
and wrapping paper.
939
00:35:47,179 --> 00:35:48,445
Ben: So this would be,
940
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,013
"Make a wish.
It's your birthday."
941
00:35:50,048 --> 00:35:53,283
Lemonis: These are excellent.
Ben: Yeah, thanks.
942
00:35:53,318 --> 00:35:58,889
♪♪
943
00:35:58,924 --> 00:36:00,857
Lemonis: Although
it's going to take a while
944
00:36:00,893 --> 00:36:02,993
for the newly created products
to go into production,
945
00:36:03,028 --> 00:36:05,028
I wanted to start
to generate some revenue,
946
00:36:05,063 --> 00:36:06,563
so I've set up
a huge opportunity
947
00:36:06,598 --> 00:36:08,198
with the Harper Group.
948
00:36:08,233 --> 00:36:10,734
The Harper Group is one
of the foremost rep groups
949
00:36:10,769 --> 00:36:12,302
in the marketplace.
950
00:36:12,337 --> 00:36:14,838
Are you ready to go in?
Ben: I'm very excited.
951
00:36:14,873 --> 00:36:16,806
Lemonis: A rep group
essentially acts
952
00:36:16,842 --> 00:36:19,543
as a sales agent that will
wholesale the products
953
00:36:19,578 --> 00:36:22,546
to other retailers
around the country.
954
00:36:22,581 --> 00:36:24,214
We need the rep group.
955
00:36:24,249 --> 00:36:25,582
Scott: So we kind of work in
956
00:36:25,617 --> 00:36:27,584
four primary product categories.
Ben: Okay.
957
00:36:27,619 --> 00:36:29,052
Scott: We work in personal care,
home fragrance.
958
00:36:29,087 --> 00:36:31,254
We work in personal accessories
in gift.
959
00:36:31,290 --> 00:36:32,889
We work in a little home
and tabletop,
960
00:36:32,925 --> 00:36:34,257
and then we have our paper
961
00:36:34,293 --> 00:36:36,059
and publishing business,
as well.
962
00:36:36,094 --> 00:36:37,861
Ben: Very good.
963
00:36:37,896 --> 00:36:39,930
Kristin: We were interested
in having you rep our brand.
964
00:36:39,965 --> 00:36:41,698
Scott: Oh, that would be great.
965
00:36:41,733 --> 00:36:43,333
Kristin: So we do a little bit
of tabletop, home decor --
966
00:36:43,368 --> 00:36:46,903
Ben: So we're here --
I make home --
967
00:36:46,939 --> 00:36:50,540
We make home and gifts
gifts and stationery.
968
00:36:50,576 --> 00:36:53,577
And we were interested in --
969
00:36:53,612 --> 00:36:56,846
Do we have like a table?
Scott: Absolutely.
970
00:36:56,882 --> 00:37:00,717
Ben: So these are examples
of key products of, like,
971
00:37:00,752 --> 00:37:03,119
what your reps on the road
would use.
972
00:37:03,155 --> 00:37:07,757
♪♪
973
00:37:07,793 --> 00:37:09,426
Scott: Just looking
at this product here,
974
00:37:09,461 --> 00:37:11,428
we're not going
to necessarily see
975
00:37:11,463 --> 00:37:14,431
what the brand
is really all about.
976
00:37:14,466 --> 00:37:17,934
I mean, really, Ben,
what we find is that
977
00:37:17,970 --> 00:37:20,270
if the retailer
is new to the brand,
978
00:37:20,305 --> 00:37:22,939
they're gonna wanna see
and feel the product.
979
00:37:22,975 --> 00:37:25,008
Especially
some of the bestsellers
980
00:37:25,043 --> 00:37:27,410
in each of the categories
in order to show that.
981
00:37:27,446 --> 00:37:29,079
Ben: Okay.
Scott: If our team
982
00:37:29,114 --> 00:37:31,615
doesn't have the right tools
983
00:37:31,650 --> 00:37:33,617
when they're in the stores,
sometimes that can be
984
00:37:33,652 --> 00:37:36,620
an impediment
to trying to get sales.
985
00:37:36,655 --> 00:37:38,455
Lemonis: I'm frustrated
with the fact that Ben didn't
986
00:37:38,490 --> 00:37:41,091
even bring any of the new stuff
that he's been working on.
987
00:37:41,126 --> 00:37:43,627
He could have at least
brought a few samples,
988
00:37:43,662 --> 00:37:45,962
even if they weren't
perfectly ready.
989
00:37:45,998 --> 00:37:48,765
Now I know why his sales people
have struggled.
990
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,968
An artist is terrible at picking
the frame for the art,
991
00:37:52,004 --> 00:37:53,303
and it's the same for Ben
992
00:37:53,338 --> 00:37:55,305
where he doesn't
actually understand
993
00:37:55,340 --> 00:37:56,840
the kind of packaging
994
00:37:56,875 --> 00:37:58,475
that needs to go around his art
995
00:37:58,510 --> 00:38:02,012
for the salesperson
to actually deliver it.
996
00:38:02,047 --> 00:38:05,649
Ben: I guess this would --
Although terribly --
997
00:38:05,684 --> 00:38:09,753
Uh...uh...
not a terrible introduction.
998
00:38:09,788 --> 00:38:13,023
Lemonis: Ben, I'm embarrassed.
999
00:38:13,058 --> 00:38:15,158
I want to just --
I want to just stop.
1000
00:38:18,363 --> 00:38:21,264
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and business advice,
1001
00:38:21,300 --> 00:38:22,565
visit...
1002
00:38:25,671 --> 00:38:30,407
Lemonis: Ben, I'm embarrassed,
so I want to just --
1003
00:38:30,442 --> 00:38:33,343
I want to just stop.
1004
00:38:33,378 --> 00:38:35,312
Ben: Okay.
1005
00:38:35,347 --> 00:38:40,717
Lemonis: This is a terrible
representation of the business.
1006
00:38:40,752 --> 00:38:42,652
Ben: Oh.
Lemonis: I'm not comfortable
1007
00:38:42,688 --> 00:38:45,388
asking him to take on
this product.
1008
00:38:45,424 --> 00:38:47,857
Ben: We did this based
upon past experience,
1009
00:38:47,893 --> 00:38:49,426
but from both of your reactions,
1010
00:38:49,461 --> 00:38:51,361
this wasn't what
you were expecting,
1011
00:38:51,396 --> 00:38:54,030
and you expected more of me.
1012
00:38:54,066 --> 00:38:56,399
So I'm embarrassed.
1013
00:38:56,435 --> 00:38:57,867
Lemonis: Let's turn it
into a positive.
1014
00:38:57,903 --> 00:38:59,536
Ben: Right.
1015
00:38:59,571 --> 00:39:02,272
Lemonis: When I went into
the store in Soho, blown away.
1016
00:39:02,307 --> 00:39:03,773
I apologize,
and I'm being sincere.
1017
00:39:03,809 --> 00:39:06,242
I don't know what your schedule
is tonight.
1018
00:39:06,278 --> 00:39:09,612
Is there any possible way that
you could swing by the store
1019
00:39:09,648 --> 00:39:12,382
so we can get, like, a restart?
1020
00:39:12,417 --> 00:39:13,850
Scott: Yeah, we can do that.
1021
00:39:13,885 --> 00:39:15,952
Lemonis: Look,
this was a total mess,
1022
00:39:15,987 --> 00:39:17,921
and I knew that
if I could get Scott
1023
00:39:17,956 --> 00:39:21,224
to come to Ben's store,
he would see what I saw.
1024
00:39:21,259 --> 00:39:25,261
If we could just pack up --
Ben: There's not very much.
1025
00:39:25,297 --> 00:39:27,797
Lemonis: I didn't say it,
but thank you for --
1026
00:39:27,833 --> 00:39:30,867
genuinely sorry, but I want
to put our best foot forward.
1027
00:39:30,902 --> 00:39:32,202
Scott: No, that's fine.
1028
00:39:34,139 --> 00:39:37,974
♪♪
1029
00:39:38,009 --> 00:39:39,242
Ben: Hello!
1030
00:39:39,277 --> 00:39:40,443
Scott: How are you?
Ben: Great.
1031
00:39:40,479 --> 00:39:43,546
Welcome to Ben's Garden,
round two.
1032
00:39:43,582 --> 00:39:45,448
Scott: Wow.
1033
00:39:45,484 --> 00:39:47,784
This is really very impressive.
1034
00:39:47,819 --> 00:39:50,387
This is a completely
different vibe and feel
1035
00:39:50,422 --> 00:39:52,889
from what we saw
in the showroom, for sure.
1036
00:39:52,924 --> 00:39:54,257
Ben: I'm really embarrassed
1037
00:39:54,292 --> 00:39:58,094
and still kind of,
like, unsettled.
1038
00:39:58,130 --> 00:40:00,430
I don't -- I generally try
to get things right.
1039
00:40:00,465 --> 00:40:04,667
Scott: Uh-huh.
So, I'm going to --
1040
00:40:04,703 --> 00:40:07,337
Kristin might lead
for a little bit
1041
00:40:07,372 --> 00:40:09,139
to walk through things.
1042
00:40:09,174 --> 00:40:11,341
Kristin: When you come
right in through the door,
1043
00:40:11,376 --> 00:40:12,942
our number-one category
1044
00:40:12,978 --> 00:40:14,644
that we sell through
is going to be decoupage.
1045
00:40:14,679 --> 00:40:16,513
Scott: I was just going to say,
so you're keeping
1046
00:40:16,548 --> 00:40:18,848
your high-selling categories
up front
1047
00:40:18,884 --> 00:40:21,084
so that's the first thing
that the consumers see.
1048
00:40:21,119 --> 00:40:23,653
Scott: Oh, it's beautiful.
Kristin: Then the next category
1049
00:40:23,688 --> 00:40:26,423
that we excel very well
at would be tabletop.
1050
00:40:26,458 --> 00:40:28,324
So our coasters are fantastic.
1051
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,160
They come in these
great giftable boxes,
1052
00:40:30,195 --> 00:40:31,795
which is very easy
1053
00:40:31,830 --> 00:40:33,596
for our wholesale customers
to kind of gift wrap.
1054
00:40:33,632 --> 00:40:36,166
They come ribboned,
and they're all set to go.
1055
00:40:36,201 --> 00:40:38,268
And then a really
fantastic category
1056
00:40:38,303 --> 00:40:41,304
that does really well for us
would be photo frames.
1057
00:40:41,339 --> 00:40:43,106
And they, too, will come
in the really great
1058
00:40:43,141 --> 00:40:45,208
orange and yellow boxes.
1059
00:40:45,243 --> 00:40:48,778
Scott: That's very cool.
This is really very impressive.
1060
00:40:48,814 --> 00:40:50,513
In the showroom,
when I saw the samples
1061
00:40:50,549 --> 00:40:52,182
and the product that you had,
1062
00:40:52,217 --> 00:40:54,617
it in no way reflects
what is here.
1063
00:40:54,653 --> 00:40:57,320
Now seeing this and immersing us
1064
00:40:57,355 --> 00:40:59,355
in the experience
and in the product,
1065
00:40:59,391 --> 00:41:01,291
I think it's a great
opportunity for us.
1066
00:41:01,326 --> 00:41:03,526
Lemonis: So, is this
approved to do a deal?
1067
00:41:03,562 --> 00:41:05,628
Scott: It's approved.
Thank you very much.
1068
00:41:05,664 --> 00:41:06,663
Ben: Thank you.
Kristin: Love it.
1069
00:41:06,698 --> 00:41:08,031
Ben: We look forward to it.
1070
00:41:08,066 --> 00:41:10,066
Lemonis:
Kristin really stepped up,
1071
00:41:10,101 --> 00:41:12,969
and Ben actually
let her do the talking.
1072
00:41:13,004 --> 00:41:14,070
Finally.
1073
00:41:14,105 --> 00:41:15,505
Ben: Thank you for coming here.
1074
00:41:15,540 --> 00:41:16,973
Scott: Of course, yeah.
1075
00:41:17,008 --> 00:41:18,408
Ben: And I'm sorry for what --
I'm sorry for --
1076
00:41:18,443 --> 00:41:20,176
Lemonis: No.
We're moved on past that.
1077
00:41:20,212 --> 00:41:22,145
We're all good.
Ben: I'm learning.
1078
00:41:22,180 --> 00:41:23,880
I got to stop sometimes.
I just keep going.
1079
00:41:23,915 --> 00:41:25,014
Lemonis: Don't talk
past the sale.
1080
00:41:25,050 --> 00:41:26,716
He said yes.
1081
00:41:26,751 --> 00:41:28,251
All right, thanks, Scott.
Ben: All right, thank you.
1082
00:41:28,286 --> 00:41:29,319
Lemonis: See you, buddy.
1083
00:41:31,022 --> 00:41:34,524
♪♪
1084
00:41:34,559 --> 00:41:36,059
Kristin: Hi!
Lemonis: Hi, how are you?
1085
00:41:36,094 --> 00:41:37,760
Kristin: Good to see you.
Lemonis: Where's Ben at?
1086
00:41:37,796 --> 00:41:40,563
Kristin: He's on his way.
Lemonis: He texted me,
1087
00:41:40,599 --> 00:41:42,565
and he said he couldn't
get his bow tie on.
1088
00:41:42,601 --> 00:41:44,400
Now that Ben's landed
the Harper Group,
1089
00:41:44,436 --> 00:41:45,668
and he's developed
the new products...
1090
00:41:45,704 --> 00:41:47,337
Hey!
1091
00:41:47,372 --> 00:41:49,772
...I wanted to invite
local sales reps and customers
1092
00:41:49,808 --> 00:41:54,010
to Ben's Soho store for product
unveiling and a celebration.
1093
00:41:54,045 --> 00:41:56,546
Is Ben's mother here?
Ben: Mom?
1094
00:41:56,581 --> 00:41:59,516
Lemonis: Oh, hi, Ben's mother.
1095
00:41:59,551 --> 00:42:01,117
I'm Marcus, by the way.
Mira: Nice to meet you.
1096
00:42:01,152 --> 00:42:02,752
Lemonis: Can I hug you?
Oh, my God.
1097
00:42:02,787 --> 00:42:04,587
Your mom's a hugger.
I love that.
1098
00:42:04,623 --> 00:42:08,758
Ben: Thank you very much
for coming and celebrating
1099
00:42:08,793 --> 00:42:10,793
what we're trying to do here.
1100
00:42:10,829 --> 00:42:12,262
Woman: We're excited
to see your talent.
1101
00:42:12,297 --> 00:42:14,764
Ben: So, well,
I appreciate that.
1102
00:42:14,799 --> 00:42:16,533
So thank you very much.
1103
00:42:16,568 --> 00:42:20,370
I think the experience
has enriched my life
1104
00:42:20,405 --> 00:42:23,940
and really brightened my future.
1105
00:42:23,975 --> 00:42:25,408
Lemonis:
There's a lot of new products.
1106
00:42:25,443 --> 00:42:27,644
Ben: Yep, so these are
all of our designs.
1107
00:42:27,679 --> 00:42:31,948
I designed the candles and
wrapping paper and wallpaper.
1108
00:42:31,983 --> 00:42:34,117
All these things are things
that I have wanted
1109
00:42:34,152 --> 00:42:35,752
to work on for a long time,
1110
00:42:35,787 --> 00:42:39,923
and Marcus has been able
to create these opportunities
1111
00:42:39,958 --> 00:42:41,925
to manifest themselves.
1112
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:43,459
Lemonis: You want to tell
everybody to have a good time,
1113
00:42:43,495 --> 00:42:45,161
or what do you want to do?
Ben: Please, enjoy.
1114
00:42:45,196 --> 00:42:47,564
Lemonis: Thank you for coming.
Ben: Thank you.
1115
00:42:47,599 --> 00:42:48,831
Lemonis: the new products
1116
00:42:48,867 --> 00:42:50,400
and the deal
with the Harper Group
1117
00:42:50,435 --> 00:42:53,069
should help us clear
at least $2 million
1118
00:42:53,104 --> 00:42:55,405
in wholesale business
during the next year --
1119
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:56,973
double what we currently do.
1120
00:42:57,008 --> 00:43:01,578
Ben: Virginia, hi,
you are the sweetest thing.
1121
00:43:01,613 --> 00:43:02,946
Lemonis:
And in my journey with Ben,
1122
00:43:02,981 --> 00:43:04,814
I've seen a ton of growth.
1123
00:43:04,849 --> 00:43:07,083
I do like the fact that
he's more self-aware
1124
00:43:07,118 --> 00:43:09,819
of how his interaction
with people can affect them,
1125
00:43:09,854 --> 00:43:13,656
and he's now trusting people
to pitch in.
1126
00:43:13,692 --> 00:43:16,292
And it really allows Ben
to focus on the things
1127
00:43:16,328 --> 00:43:20,330
that he's spectacular at --
designing and creating.
1128
00:43:20,365 --> 00:43:23,800
This guy may be
the most creative person
1129
00:43:23,835 --> 00:43:26,269
that I have ever met.
Ben: Thank you.
1130
00:43:26,304 --> 00:43:27,537
Lemonis: I'll see
you soon, okay?
1131
00:43:27,572 --> 00:43:29,372
Ben: Thank you for coming.
Really.
1132
00:43:29,407 --> 00:43:31,941
You're really very nice.
Lemonis: I'll see you soon.
1133
00:43:31,977 --> 00:43:34,677
♪♪
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