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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,956 --> 00:00:04,489 A teenager's diary. 2 00:00:04,544 --> 00:00:06,605 It's not an easy read, is it? No. 3 00:00:06,817 --> 00:00:07,965 We have a DNA match 4 00:00:07,997 --> 00:00:09,317 from the window that you smashed. 5 00:00:09,364 --> 00:00:12,060 I'd been in there the previous evening, seen the silverware, 6 00:00:12,122 --> 00:00:14,420 it was an utterly shameful thing to do. 7 00:00:14,460 --> 00:00:15,500 It's finished me. 8 00:00:15,590 --> 00:00:18,110 She's kicked me out, Jamie, can I kip at yours for a bit? 9 00:00:18,184 --> 00:00:19,902 Find a hotel like a normal person! 10 00:00:19,943 --> 00:00:22,078 You might want to just want consider something though, 11 00:00:22,132 --> 00:00:24,156 I know stuff about your boy. 12 00:00:24,218 --> 00:00:26,012 Eliot Hollis. He was about to turn 16. 13 00:00:26,100 --> 00:00:29,460 Two arrests, and one for stealing his dad's car. 14 00:00:29,542 --> 00:00:31,702 We should prioritise Chris Lowe right now. 15 00:00:31,742 --> 00:00:34,394 He'd used his credit card to visit child abuse websites. 16 00:00:34,433 --> 00:00:37,100 Is there anywhere you and Asif can go and stay 17 00:00:37,140 --> 00:00:38,660 that Christopher doesn't know about? 18 00:00:38,913 --> 00:00:40,675 Your mum, she's now threatened 19 00:00:40,700 --> 00:00:43,310 to go to the police with evidence of some wrongdoing 20 00:00:43,335 --> 00:00:44,685 I've apparently committed. 21 00:00:44,710 --> 00:00:48,687 He abused me. Mentally, physically, sometimes even sexually. 22 00:00:48,755 --> 00:00:50,515 And that's not a violent man? 23 00:00:50,540 --> 00:00:52,900 Feel like I'm slightly losing the plot. 24 00:00:52,959 --> 00:00:55,159 You're just tired, it makes everything seem worse. 25 00:00:55,210 --> 00:00:57,772 I wish to apologise to Mr Carr, and his family, 26 00:00:57,808 --> 00:00:59,968 we will be seeking prosecution 27 00:01:00,020 --> 00:01:04,900 for any online activity that seeks to incite violence against Mr Carr. 28 00:01:05,214 --> 00:01:06,218 Peter Carr? 29 00:01:06,246 --> 00:01:07,966 FLESH RIPS Urgh! 30 00:01:19,577 --> 00:01:21,857 ? All we do is hide away 31 00:01:23,460 --> 00:01:26,100 ? All we do is All we do is hide away 32 00:01:27,300 --> 00:01:29,420 ? All we do is lie in wait 33 00:01:30,918 --> 00:01:34,238 ? All we do is All we do is lie in wait 34 00:01:34,934 --> 00:01:38,014 ? I've been upside-down 35 00:01:38,552 --> 00:01:42,152 ? I don't wanna be the right way round 36 00:01:42,272 --> 00:01:45,792 ? Can't find paradise on the ground. ? 37 00:01:56,900 --> 00:01:59,260 SIREN BLARES Over here! 38 00:02:06,460 --> 00:02:08,300 Well, we all mess up, we're all fallible, 39 00:02:08,500 --> 00:02:10,895 we've all done things of which we are ashamed. 40 00:02:11,285 --> 00:02:13,418 The trick in life, I think... 41 00:02:13,740 --> 00:02:14,860 is knowing which things 42 00:02:14,966 --> 00:02:17,629 we should forgive ourselves for, and which not. 43 00:02:17,957 --> 00:02:20,500 Except I'm not sure it really is that. 44 00:02:20,700 --> 00:02:23,940 Suspect is a white male, mid-40s, wearing a navy top 45 00:02:24,100 --> 00:02:25,420 and a grey baseball cap. 46 00:02:25,620 --> 00:02:27,140 Last seen walking toward Burleigh Road, 47 00:02:27,340 --> 00:02:29,500 witnesses said he had a knife in his hand. Over. 48 00:02:29,540 --> 00:02:31,220 I think a part of me wonders 49 00:02:31,420 --> 00:02:34,580 if I'm just coming to a natural conclusion here. 50 00:02:34,740 --> 00:02:37,575 I've been doing this for... 28 years? 51 00:02:39,940 --> 00:02:41,580 There are other things to do in life. 52 00:02:43,897 --> 00:02:45,217 Not like this. 53 00:02:45,539 --> 00:02:47,659 So why did you retire? 54 00:02:47,684 --> 00:02:50,355 I didn't retire. I was A19-ed. 55 00:02:50,544 --> 00:02:52,544 In the cutbacks. Ah. 56 00:02:52,682 --> 00:02:55,602 The truth is, what I did, what you still do, 57 00:02:56,082 --> 00:02:59,355 when you lose it, you realise what a privilege it was. 58 00:02:59,535 --> 00:03:00,830 To be able to help people, 59 00:03:00,885 --> 00:03:03,045 often at the very worst moment of their lives, 60 00:03:03,087 --> 00:03:05,367 to find faith in the world again. 61 00:03:06,300 --> 00:03:09,145 Cos I genuinely believe that's a big part of what we do. 62 00:03:09,403 --> 00:03:11,968 Restore a little shape, a little order, 63 00:03:11,993 --> 00:03:13,673 a little meaning to the world. 64 00:03:14,114 --> 00:03:17,194 I mean, not so much on traffic duty, but, erm... 65 00:03:23,380 --> 00:03:26,707 And obviously Naked Gun. Yeah, oh, say, Naked Gun. 66 00:03:26,756 --> 00:03:27,756 Midnight Run? 67 00:03:27,792 --> 00:03:30,160 Oh, man, Midnight Run. Yep. Definitely. 68 00:03:30,258 --> 00:03:31,817 And Fargo would be on there. 69 00:03:31,841 --> 00:03:33,721 "You're darn tootin'!" "OK, hun!" 70 00:03:33,796 --> 00:03:35,036 BOTH CHUCKLE 71 00:03:35,516 --> 00:03:38,457 His BP and stats are very low now. 72 00:03:38,852 --> 00:03:40,972 Get me four units of red cells... 73 00:03:41,660 --> 00:03:44,740 Well, that was a great evening, thank you. 74 00:03:45,838 --> 00:03:48,238 I'd really like to do it again sometime. 75 00:03:49,039 --> 00:03:50,639 Yeah, me too. 76 00:03:51,271 --> 00:03:53,191 All right, this is me. 77 00:03:57,380 --> 00:04:00,260 HE LAUGHS NERVOUSLY 78 00:04:00,420 --> 00:04:01,700 Well, anyway... 79 00:04:02,740 --> 00:04:04,220 ..good night, then. 80 00:04:08,780 --> 00:04:09,780 Good night. 81 00:04:14,500 --> 00:04:16,500 MOBILE RINGS 82 00:04:16,700 --> 00:04:19,100 Yes, it went very well, and no, I didn't snog him. 83 00:04:19,300 --> 00:04:21,300 Sorry, boss, that's not what I was ringing about. 84 00:04:22,300 --> 00:04:23,780 What? Pete Carr. 85 00:04:23,980 --> 00:04:26,660 He's been attacked outside his office. Stabbed. 86 00:04:26,820 --> 00:04:27,980 Oh, no! 87 00:04:29,700 --> 00:04:31,620 They say he's gonna be OK, but... 88 00:04:32,860 --> 00:04:34,460 No, no! 89 00:04:47,700 --> 00:04:50,180 He still had the knife on him when they nicked him. 90 00:04:50,340 --> 00:04:51,500 Who was he? 91 00:04:51,660 --> 00:04:53,180 Some local nutjob. 92 00:04:53,340 --> 00:04:54,780 Links to far-right groups, 93 00:04:54,980 --> 00:04:57,220 got geed up by all the online paedophile stuff. 94 00:04:57,420 --> 00:05:00,540 So we go after all those... fuckers. Absolutely. 95 00:05:12,020 --> 00:05:15,980 She's exaggerating. Tim and I were out for about 45 minutes, 96 00:05:16,140 --> 00:05:17,420 and Pete just went down the pub. 97 00:05:17,460 --> 00:05:18,540 And Chris Lowe? 98 00:05:18,740 --> 00:05:20,796 I don't know where Chris went, you'd have to ask him. 99 00:05:20,820 --> 00:05:23,580 But you accept you were all out of the house 100 00:05:23,780 --> 00:05:26,220 at various points between 9pm and midnight? 101 00:05:26,420 --> 00:05:28,300 Yes. So why did you lie? 102 00:05:28,500 --> 00:05:30,980 I would have thought that had become blindingly obvious. 103 00:05:31,180 --> 00:05:32,780 I thought there was a very good chance 104 00:05:32,980 --> 00:05:34,540 anything I told you would be leaked, 105 00:05:34,740 --> 00:05:36,940 and given my best friend is now in intensive care, 106 00:05:37,100 --> 00:05:38,300 entirely because of you, 107 00:05:38,500 --> 00:05:40,380 I think I had pretty good reason to be nervous. 108 00:05:44,300 --> 00:05:46,900 Can we move on to your car, Mr Hollis? 109 00:05:47,100 --> 00:05:50,100 Which, in fact, matches exactly the description 110 00:05:50,300 --> 00:05:53,260 of a car seen driving erratically at approximately 12:20am 111 00:05:53,460 --> 00:05:55,300 on the morning that Hayley went missing. 112 00:05:55,500 --> 00:05:57,660 And how many dark saloons with trailer bars 113 00:05:57,700 --> 00:05:59,380 would there be in the Hardy area? 114 00:05:59,580 --> 00:06:01,100 We didn't ask your opinion, Miss Gray. 115 00:06:01,260 --> 00:06:02,660 Although she's right. 116 00:06:02,860 --> 00:06:05,660 But I suspect even my ex-wife will confirm I was in the house 117 00:06:05,820 --> 00:06:07,300 in bed at 12:20am. 118 00:06:12,500 --> 00:06:15,180 How old was your son... 119 00:06:16,180 --> 00:06:18,140 ..that New Year's Eve, James? 120 00:06:19,220 --> 00:06:20,860 How old was Eliot? 121 00:06:22,940 --> 00:06:24,220 15. 122 00:06:25,700 --> 00:06:28,100 Actually, only a few weeks off 16, I believe. 123 00:06:28,300 --> 00:06:32,100 And sadly, quite a troubled young man, it seems. 124 00:06:32,260 --> 00:06:34,540 Already arrested twice, 125 00:06:34,700 --> 00:06:36,100 for possession of cannabis, 126 00:06:36,260 --> 00:06:38,140 once for ecstasy, 127 00:06:38,340 --> 00:06:41,620 and just one month before New Year's Eve 1999, 128 00:06:41,820 --> 00:06:44,620 for stealing his dad's car and driving it whilst drunk. 129 00:06:44,820 --> 00:06:46,980 Which is why I have to ask you, James... 130 00:06:48,540 --> 00:06:50,780 ..did Eliot take your car that night? 131 00:06:50,940 --> 00:06:52,300 No. 132 00:06:52,460 --> 00:06:54,580 Maybe he came across Hayley, 133 00:06:54,780 --> 00:06:57,620 maybe hitch-hiking somewhere, picked her up? 134 00:06:57,820 --> 00:07:01,100 Something happened between them, something went wrong... 135 00:07:01,260 --> 00:07:02,780 Eliot's never hurt a fly. 136 00:07:02,940 --> 00:07:04,300 Maybe it was an accident. 137 00:07:04,500 --> 00:07:06,660 The car was seen to be driving erratically. 138 00:07:06,700 --> 00:07:09,940 Maybe he was drunk, maybe he knocked her down, it was a dark, wet night. 139 00:07:10,100 --> 00:07:11,940 But in either instance, 140 00:07:12,100 --> 00:07:13,220 you found out. 141 00:07:13,420 --> 00:07:15,580 And agreed to drive the body back up to London 142 00:07:15,620 --> 00:07:17,900 to obscure your son's involvement. 143 00:07:18,100 --> 00:07:20,060 The idea that I would drive the dead body 144 00:07:20,260 --> 00:07:22,420 of a young girl my son had killed, to London, 145 00:07:22,460 --> 00:07:24,100 is... 146 00:07:24,260 --> 00:07:28,020 as absurd as it is abhorrent. 147 00:07:28,220 --> 00:07:30,700 Then can we ask you why, when we first interviewed you, 148 00:07:30,900 --> 00:07:33,260 you referred to your son as a "little boy"? 149 00:07:34,780 --> 00:07:37,020 A turn of phrase. Really? 150 00:07:37,180 --> 00:07:38,420 We think it was deliberate. 151 00:07:38,620 --> 00:07:41,500 We think that you didn't want us to even consider the idea 152 00:07:41,700 --> 00:07:44,260 that there was effectively another adult in the house that night. 153 00:07:44,340 --> 00:07:45,340 I don't want my client 154 00:07:45,540 --> 00:07:47,900 answering any more questions about his son. 155 00:07:48,100 --> 00:07:50,100 So unless you have any actual evidence, 156 00:07:50,300 --> 00:07:52,940 rather than shot-in-the-dark theories, I think we're done here. 157 00:07:55,100 --> 00:07:56,100 OK. 158 00:08:01,660 --> 00:08:02,940 Henry. 159 00:08:04,220 --> 00:08:08,860 We spoke to Maria. Pete's conscious and talking. 160 00:08:10,900 --> 00:08:13,820 Stay strong, fella, stay strong. Yeah, you too. 161 00:08:17,220 --> 00:08:19,940 It was stupid, and I apologise. 162 00:08:20,100 --> 00:08:22,500 A case of misguided loyalty. 163 00:08:22,660 --> 00:08:24,540 Misguided loyalty to who? 164 00:08:25,620 --> 00:08:27,220 Jamie. 165 00:08:27,420 --> 00:08:31,060 He rang us all after he'd first been interviewed by you, 166 00:08:31,260 --> 00:08:35,220 and he said he told you that we all stayed in that night. 167 00:08:36,740 --> 00:08:39,860 The inference I took was that we should all say the same. 168 00:08:40,060 --> 00:08:42,020 Why do you think he wanted you to lie? 169 00:08:43,220 --> 00:08:45,980 At first I thought it was because of his profile 170 00:08:46,180 --> 00:08:48,500 that he didn't want the press latching onto him. 171 00:08:49,860 --> 00:08:52,020 And, yeah, I was happy to go along with that, 172 00:08:52,060 --> 00:08:54,660 because I didn't for a nanosecond believe there was any... 173 00:08:56,380 --> 00:08:58,180 ..darker motive. 174 00:08:59,620 --> 00:09:02,620 Except then yesterday Pete rang me. 175 00:09:02,780 --> 00:09:04,140 Pete Carr. 176 00:09:05,940 --> 00:09:08,580 And he told me something about Jamie's son. 177 00:09:08,740 --> 00:09:10,450 Told you what? 178 00:09:11,140 --> 00:09:14,940 He said he'd seen Eliot climbing into the house 179 00:09:15,497 --> 00:09:17,220 through a first-floor window 180 00:09:17,260 --> 00:09:19,940 at around two in the morning on New Year's Day. 181 00:09:32,900 --> 00:09:35,837 OK, so where are we with Eliot Hollis? 182 00:09:35,900 --> 00:09:37,340 Still looking for him. 183 00:09:37,500 --> 00:09:38,620 But for what it's worth, 184 00:09:38,820 --> 00:09:40,700 I just pulled this off an online employment site 185 00:09:40,820 --> 00:09:42,180 which he signed up to in 2007, 186 00:09:42,380 --> 00:09:44,837 when he was living in the States with his dad. 187 00:09:44,900 --> 00:09:48,376 It details holiday work on a building site in the UK, so... 188 00:09:48,845 --> 00:09:52,220 OK. Let's check James Hollis's car, 189 00:09:52,420 --> 00:09:54,420 the BMW, I wanna see its service history. 190 00:09:54,446 --> 00:09:56,813 Maybe speak to the ex again, check their bank statements, 191 00:09:56,838 --> 00:09:57,918 insurance companies. 192 00:09:57,965 --> 00:10:00,365 I want to know if the car had any bodywork repairs done 193 00:10:00,397 --> 00:10:02,717 in the months immediately after Hayley died. 194 00:10:07,335 --> 00:10:09,560 I just wanna say I'm sorry, Pete. 195 00:10:10,940 --> 00:10:13,740 I was angry, and... shocked... 196 00:10:15,220 --> 00:10:17,940 ..but I also know in my heart you're a good man. 197 00:10:19,340 --> 00:10:22,724 Yeah, you've done some silly things, we both know that, but... 198 00:10:25,140 --> 00:10:26,300 ..you're a good man. 199 00:10:27,380 --> 00:10:29,740 And I want you to hear that I know that. 200 00:10:31,700 --> 00:10:36,020 Basically, I think Hayley used a sort of code, 201 00:10:36,180 --> 00:10:37,620 in her diary, 202 00:10:37,820 --> 00:10:39,460 I'm guessing for if her mum read it, 203 00:10:39,660 --> 00:10:41,620 so she wouldn't know what she was referring to. 204 00:10:41,780 --> 00:10:43,900 So, first up, 205 00:10:44,100 --> 00:10:46,820 when she has sex, I think she calls it "tea". 206 00:10:47,020 --> 00:10:49,300 And then, and I think this is actually more important, 207 00:10:49,500 --> 00:10:52,580 when she says she had some cake, I think she's saying she took drugs. 208 00:10:52,740 --> 00:10:54,740 So this is just a small selection 209 00:10:54,940 --> 00:10:57,860 of the times these words appear, but you can see a clear pattern. 210 00:10:58,060 --> 00:11:00,500 "Great cake at Marly's, then went shopping, a very nice trip." 211 00:11:00,580 --> 00:11:03,740 "Went clubbing in Portsmouth, ate cake, up till six." 212 00:11:03,940 --> 00:11:06,700 "Had tea and cake with Ade, his birthday present to me, 213 00:11:06,860 --> 00:11:08,620 "just what I always wanted." 214 00:11:08,820 --> 00:11:11,260 The reason I think this is significant 215 00:11:11,420 --> 00:11:12,420 is this reference here. 216 00:11:12,580 --> 00:11:15,940 This is dated two days before she disappeared. 217 00:11:16,140 --> 00:11:18,620 And here, she says, "G's gonna get us some cake 218 00:11:18,780 --> 00:11:21,020 "for the New Year party." 219 00:11:21,220 --> 00:11:25,020 I think this is why she left work earlier, 220 00:11:25,180 --> 00:11:26,580 I think G's is where she was going. 221 00:11:26,740 --> 00:11:30,740 Dealer, maybe? Or friend who was selling her some gear. 222 00:11:30,900 --> 00:11:32,300 Erm... 223 00:11:32,500 --> 00:11:34,940 I mean, it might explain how she could have been 224 00:11:35,100 --> 00:11:36,700 in the vicinity of the Spinney, 225 00:11:36,900 --> 00:11:39,460 which from the pub, is the opposite direction to the party. 226 00:11:41,540 --> 00:11:43,660 Nice work, Fran. 227 00:11:43,700 --> 00:11:46,020 OK, can we liaise with Hampshire Police 228 00:11:46,180 --> 00:11:47,420 on local drug dealers, 229 00:11:47,580 --> 00:11:49,260 then and now? 230 00:11:49,420 --> 00:11:51,300 But really good work, Fran. 231 00:11:52,740 --> 00:11:54,340 Thanks, guys. 232 00:11:55,340 --> 00:11:56,780 Shall we? 233 00:11:56,940 --> 00:11:58,860 Miller, hi, it's me. 234 00:12:00,660 --> 00:12:02,820 Erm... I'm sorry I haven't rung before, 235 00:12:02,860 --> 00:12:05,900 but I just needed some time on my own to think things through. 236 00:12:07,060 --> 00:12:08,780 And I wanted to say... 237 00:12:10,100 --> 00:12:14,660 ..don't believe what you might hear about me from the police. 238 00:12:14,820 --> 00:12:16,380 I'm not a bad man. 239 00:12:16,580 --> 00:12:18,860 I made some mistakes but I'm not a bad man. 240 00:12:34,300 --> 00:12:37,340 So, why did you lie, Christopher? 241 00:12:38,740 --> 00:12:42,500 I lied, erm... because from the moment Hayley Reid went missing 242 00:12:42,700 --> 00:12:44,260 I sort of believed that at some point 243 00:12:44,460 --> 00:12:46,780 someone would knock on my door wanting to blame me. 244 00:12:48,620 --> 00:12:51,580 Which... I believed for a number of reasons. 245 00:12:51,780 --> 00:12:54,220 None of which include me having anything to do with her death. 246 00:12:54,340 --> 00:12:58,980 Erm... in late December 1999... 247 00:13:00,580 --> 00:13:02,820 ..I was in a bad way, mentally. 248 00:13:03,020 --> 00:13:06,580 I was in the manic phase, I know now, of a bipolar episode. 249 00:13:07,740 --> 00:13:10,660 Exacerbated by over-work, and by a personal event 250 00:13:10,820 --> 00:13:12,220 that had... 251 00:13:12,380 --> 00:13:14,300 profoundly traumatised me. 252 00:13:15,980 --> 00:13:17,180 And on New Year's Eve, 253 00:13:17,380 --> 00:13:20,260 in addition to me idiotically taking some cocaine, 254 00:13:20,420 --> 00:13:22,380 it overwhelmed me. 255 00:13:22,540 --> 00:13:24,260 And I became very unwell. 256 00:13:24,460 --> 00:13:30,020 I think I ended up leaving the house, and just, just walking, 257 00:13:30,180 --> 00:13:32,540 eh, I dunno where, 258 00:13:32,700 --> 00:13:34,500 for a couple of hours. 259 00:13:34,700 --> 00:13:37,380 And then finally, when I returned, I was exhausted 260 00:13:37,580 --> 00:13:39,060 and I fell asleep almost immediately, 261 00:13:39,220 --> 00:13:40,380 and then the next day... 262 00:13:41,740 --> 00:13:43,860 ..news started to filter through 263 00:13:43,900 --> 00:13:46,220 about this missing local girl, and... 264 00:13:47,820 --> 00:13:51,140 ..because of this personal thing that had happened, 265 00:13:51,340 --> 00:13:53,900 and I suppose to a degree because of my poor mental health, 266 00:13:54,100 --> 00:13:58,340 I became... obsessed that the police would come for me, 267 00:13:58,540 --> 00:14:00,500 that a knock on the door was imminent. 268 00:14:00,660 --> 00:14:03,140 But it-it-it didn't actually come. 269 00:14:03,340 --> 00:14:06,380 Not that day, nor the next, or the day after. It didn't come. 270 00:14:06,580 --> 00:14:08,740 But, erm... I never stopped waiting for it. 271 00:14:10,460 --> 00:14:12,980 So, when you finally showed up, DCI Stuart, 272 00:14:13,180 --> 00:14:15,460 in my head I went straight back to those first days 273 00:14:15,620 --> 00:14:17,180 after Hayley Reid went missing, 274 00:14:17,380 --> 00:14:19,340 I felt the same fear, the same panic, 275 00:14:19,500 --> 00:14:20,580 and yeah, I lied. 276 00:14:20,740 --> 00:14:22,500 I lied about where I was that night. 277 00:14:22,700 --> 00:14:26,540 That is all that I lied about, because I swear, I-I... 278 00:14:26,700 --> 00:14:28,540 I didn't hurt Hayley Reid. 279 00:14:28,700 --> 00:14:30,900 I never even met her. 280 00:14:31,100 --> 00:14:34,820 And this event, that fed into your paranoia... 281 00:14:36,340 --> 00:14:37,980 ..what was that? 282 00:14:38,140 --> 00:14:39,980 Yeah, so, uh... 283 00:14:40,180 --> 00:14:44,380 On October 12th 1999 I was arrested for credit card payments 284 00:14:44,420 --> 00:14:46,780 to online child sex abuse sites. 285 00:14:48,060 --> 00:14:51,140 The card was a business one, which meant I was arrested at the office, 286 00:14:51,340 --> 00:14:54,020 and the police told my business partner, Helen, 287 00:14:54,180 --> 00:14:55,860 because I sometimes visited 288 00:14:56,060 --> 00:14:58,540 commercial shoots involving children. 289 00:15:00,580 --> 00:15:02,380 She then told the board, 290 00:15:02,580 --> 00:15:05,220 and in January 2000, she told my wife. 291 00:15:06,540 --> 00:15:09,100 Two months later, when I was charged, the board sacked me. 292 00:15:09,260 --> 00:15:11,100 Then my wife filed for divorce. 293 00:15:11,300 --> 00:15:14,860 So, within four months of my arrest... 294 00:15:16,420 --> 00:15:18,740 ..yeah, I lost, erm... 295 00:15:18,900 --> 00:15:21,060 I lost everything. 296 00:15:21,220 --> 00:15:22,740 Everything I loved. 297 00:15:24,420 --> 00:15:27,180 My wife, Laura, and my career. 298 00:15:29,140 --> 00:15:31,100 My... CHOKES UP 299 00:15:33,820 --> 00:15:35,740 My beautiful daughter. 300 00:15:38,180 --> 00:15:41,260 Yeah. Yeah, my life just pretty much collapsed. 301 00:15:43,660 --> 00:15:45,780 But here's the thing, 302 00:15:45,940 --> 00:15:47,140 it wasn't me. 303 00:15:48,660 --> 00:15:50,900 The credit card payments, I didn't make them. 304 00:15:52,580 --> 00:15:55,980 My life had been ruined, and I was completely, 100% innocent. 305 00:16:01,900 --> 00:16:04,740 And do you happen to remember who packed the trailer? 306 00:16:04,940 --> 00:16:08,060 Jesus! You don't think...? Do you? 307 00:16:09,780 --> 00:16:13,060 I always used to pack the bags, and... 308 00:16:13,260 --> 00:16:15,540 James always used to put them in the trailer. 309 00:16:15,740 --> 00:16:19,300 OK. And your car, a BMW 3 series, I believe? 310 00:16:19,500 --> 00:16:22,300 Yeah. Do you recall if it sustained any damage over that break? 311 00:16:23,420 --> 00:16:25,900 You think it was a car accident? Do you? 312 00:16:37,140 --> 00:16:39,020 Mrs Hollis? 313 00:16:39,180 --> 00:16:41,540 He said he'd hit a deer. 314 00:16:41,740 --> 00:16:45,620 Your husband? Yes, my husband. Who else? 315 00:16:47,420 --> 00:16:50,500 Why don't you take a look at these photos, and this floor plan... 316 00:16:54,580 --> 00:16:57,460 ..and tell me if you can remember which bedroom 317 00:16:57,620 --> 00:16:59,620 you and your husband slept in, 318 00:16:59,780 --> 00:17:01,620 which bedroom your friends slept in, 319 00:17:01,780 --> 00:17:02,900 and which your son. 320 00:17:04,300 --> 00:17:05,980 No. 321 00:17:09,100 --> 00:17:10,620 My card details, like those 322 00:17:10,820 --> 00:17:13,500 of hundreds of other completely innocent people 323 00:17:13,660 --> 00:17:14,740 were cloned. 324 00:17:14,940 --> 00:17:19,140 Of course, I protested my innocence, I told them, "This is crazy. 325 00:17:19,180 --> 00:17:22,620 "I've never visited these sites, it's absurd, a mistake." 326 00:17:23,980 --> 00:17:25,940 But I was charged. 327 00:17:26,100 --> 00:17:27,460 And then... 328 00:17:29,140 --> 00:17:32,700 ..then suddenly I was living alone in a depressing flat in Acton. 329 00:17:34,380 --> 00:17:36,340 And my trial date had not been set. 330 00:17:38,180 --> 00:17:42,060 I managed to salvage some money from my separation, and I found a lawyer, 331 00:17:42,220 --> 00:17:43,660 and we hired a team of investigators 332 00:17:43,740 --> 00:17:46,140 to prove that the sites paid for were never actually visited, 333 00:17:46,300 --> 00:17:48,780 they proved that when the payments were made, 334 00:17:48,980 --> 00:17:51,700 allegedly from my work computer, I was abroad. 335 00:17:51,860 --> 00:17:55,060 And so in 2003, finally, 336 00:17:55,220 --> 00:17:56,220 the charges were dropped 337 00:17:56,380 --> 00:17:58,380 and I was granted a record deletion application 338 00:17:58,540 --> 00:18:00,420 in 2004. 339 00:18:00,580 --> 00:18:02,700 By this time Laura had remarried, 340 00:18:02,740 --> 00:18:03,780 and I hadn't seen her, 341 00:18:03,980 --> 00:18:06,540 or been allowed to see my daughter, for three years. 342 00:18:06,740 --> 00:18:09,460 I was living in shelters, or on the streets, 343 00:18:09,660 --> 00:18:12,940 without access to the medication I needed. 344 00:18:14,580 --> 00:18:16,540 LAUGHS The idea of just turning up, 345 00:18:16,740 --> 00:18:19,940 and persuading them I hadn't somehow bought my innocence... 346 00:18:23,180 --> 00:18:24,940 ..yeah, that was beyond me. 347 00:18:26,860 --> 00:18:29,700 So I had to try and begin to accept what had happened to me, 348 00:18:29,860 --> 00:18:30,940 this awful injustice, 349 00:18:31,100 --> 00:18:34,180 this catastrophic unfairness. 350 00:18:34,340 --> 00:18:36,220 To try... to try and... 351 00:18:36,380 --> 00:18:37,660 rebuild a life. 352 00:18:38,900 --> 00:18:42,380 You know, which sounds simpler than it actually was, 353 00:18:42,540 --> 00:18:43,540 because I was homeless, 354 00:18:43,740 --> 00:18:46,340 in and out of temporary accommodation for six more years... 355 00:18:49,820 --> 00:18:52,340 ..before Tim... CHOKES UP 356 00:18:52,500 --> 00:18:54,820 ..my friend, Tim, 357 00:18:54,980 --> 00:18:57,100 he finally tracked me down, 358 00:18:57,140 --> 00:19:00,300 bought me my first van, in 2010, 359 00:19:00,500 --> 00:19:03,460 then I began to live again, rather than just exist. 360 00:19:03,660 --> 00:19:06,620 Then one week ago, you turn up, and ask a man who has lost everything, 361 00:19:06,780 --> 00:19:09,700 through, what, just simple bad luck, 362 00:19:09,900 --> 00:19:13,540 someone... someone who knows what can happen, 363 00:19:13,740 --> 00:19:15,540 and you ask him where he was that night. 364 00:19:19,220 --> 00:19:21,100 Yeah, so, that's why I lied. 365 00:19:22,180 --> 00:19:23,380 That. 366 00:19:24,420 --> 00:19:26,420 (That.) 367 00:19:26,620 --> 00:19:30,060 James Hollis's ex remembers his son slept in a box room. 368 00:19:30,220 --> 00:19:32,380 The only box room in the house 369 00:19:32,580 --> 00:19:34,740 has a window that goes out onto a flat roof. 370 00:19:34,780 --> 00:19:36,300 Which supports Tim Finch's claim 371 00:19:36,500 --> 00:19:38,380 that Pete Carr saw him seen climbing in at 2am. 372 00:19:38,540 --> 00:19:40,020 Exactly. 373 00:19:41,220 --> 00:19:43,700 Yeah. PHONE RINGS 374 00:19:43,860 --> 00:19:44,980 Jake Collier. 375 00:19:46,020 --> 00:19:49,260 She's in an interview at the moment, can I pass on a message? 376 00:19:52,580 --> 00:19:54,700 Hello, is it Maria? 377 00:19:54,900 --> 00:19:56,740 SNIFFS Yeah. 378 00:19:56,940 --> 00:19:59,260 Sorry, I was just having a quick nap. 379 00:19:59,460 --> 00:20:03,020 I'm Dr Walsh. I'm one of the doctors who's been looking after Peter. 380 00:20:03,180 --> 00:20:05,740 Oh, right. Yes. How's he doing? 381 00:20:14,700 --> 00:20:16,060 (Shit.) 382 00:20:17,740 --> 00:20:20,100 D'you believe him? I dunno. 383 00:20:21,140 --> 00:20:22,540 Maybe. 384 00:20:22,700 --> 00:20:24,180 You speak to the legal firm, 385 00:20:24,380 --> 00:20:27,140 I'll try and track down the unit that investigated him. OK. 386 00:20:27,340 --> 00:20:29,140 KNOCK ON DOOR Guv? 387 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,720 King's Lynn nick just rang. Peter Carr's died. 388 00:20:33,365 --> 00:20:35,205 Heart attack. 389 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:44,840 SOBBING 390 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:04,760 PHONE RINGS 391 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,560 'Please leave your message after the tone.' 392 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,120 Mrs Carr, it's DCI Cassie Stuart. 393 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,480 I just wanted to ring and say... how.. 394 00:21:18,010 --> 00:21:19,930 ..desperately sad I was... 395 00:21:22,212 --> 00:21:24,532 ..to hear about your husband's death. 396 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,440 DCI Stuart? DCI Stuart, have you got anything to say? 397 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,280 CAMERAS CLICK 398 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:36,440 ALL SHOUT What will you say to his family? 399 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:38,280 D'you blame yourself, DCI Stuart? 400 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,200 WINDOWS THUMPED 401 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:44,160 '..and as his wife comforts their two young sons tonight, 402 00:21:44,360 --> 00:21:48,864 'I think the death of Mr Carr raises a number of important questions. 403 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,520 'Firstly, what new laws, if any, do we need, 404 00:21:52,844 --> 00:21:54,604 'in order to better restrict 405 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,145 'the sort of hateful social media campaign 406 00:21:57,184 --> 00:22:00,840 'that undoubtedly contributed towards his murder? 407 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:04,720 'And secondly, I think we need to ask how problematic it is 408 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,600 'that such major criminal investigations 409 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:13,070 'as this one, are increasingly being held under such a public gaze. 410 00:22:13,688 --> 00:22:16,760 'With police so far refusing to confirm 411 00:22:16,874 --> 00:22:19,834 'whether Peter Carr remained a suspect, 412 00:22:19,883 --> 00:22:22,828 'the parents of Hayley Reid must be asking themselves 413 00:22:22,930 --> 00:22:25,320 'the most painful question. 414 00:22:25,707 --> 00:22:28,559 'Has the killer of their beloved daughter 415 00:22:28,675 --> 00:22:32,995 'taken the secret of her final moments to his grave? 416 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,320 'This is Rohit Katru, outside Bishop's -' 417 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:40,440 DOOR CLOSES 418 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:42,720 Hey. 419 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:46,200 I just went out to grab a bag. I didn't forget to turn it off. 420 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,240 Dad - I just want to say that I've been... 421 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,880 ..thinking about what we were discussing the other day. 422 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:59,240 And I am genuinely sorry about what you are going through. 423 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,480 I'm fine. The problems at work 424 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,000 or whatever it is personally. 425 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,040 My personal life is fine, too. 426 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,920 Of course... I'll always be there, you know? 427 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:11,880 To give you whatever I can, 428 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:13,240 whenever you need it. 429 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,240 Wow. Well, thank you so much. 430 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,000 It's just that, erm... 431 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,120 ..well, at the moment I think it would be better for both of us 432 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,560 if I were to give you a bit of space. 433 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:25,920 So I think it's best if I move in with Jenny for a bit. 434 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:27,520 All right. 435 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:29,440 Anyway... 436 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,840 it'll be a rehearsal for us, you know? 437 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:33,800 "Rehearsal." 438 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:37,920 I asked her last night if she'd marry me. 439 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:39,600 She said she would. 440 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,280 So, we'll probably... 441 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,040 buy somewhere together, next year. 442 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,920 Sorry, you mean, like, move in together? Cos you can't... 443 00:23:47,120 --> 00:23:48,760 you can't buy somewhere together, can you? 444 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,360 Cos you're the only one with any money. 445 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,560 I never thought that we'd fall out about money. 446 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:05,720 I'll give you a call tomorrow. 447 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,040 I love you, sweetheart. 448 00:24:10,120 --> 00:24:11,560 Yeah! 449 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,600 DOOR CLOSES 450 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,200 I miss... us... 451 00:24:16,360 --> 00:24:17,960 as a family. 452 00:24:18,120 --> 00:24:20,240 I miss us all being together. 453 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:22,960 I miss you. 454 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,000 And I missed you, Aisha. 455 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:28,480 When you left for your soulmate. 456 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,200 D'you remember? 457 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,040 The girls missed you so much. 458 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:36,520 And I'm so sorry for that. 459 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,880 For all the mistakes I made, which I want to put right. 460 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:41,120 Now! 461 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,720 It's too late. We've moved on. 462 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:45,000 I've moved on. 463 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:48,360 Then... 464 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,840 you... love her, do you, 465 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:52,600 this... Sal? 466 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:53,760 Yes, I do. 467 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,800 And the girls, I mean... 468 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,800 Surely we owe it to them to ask what they'd like? 469 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:02,560 "We"? 470 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:06,280 Surely you can't deny them that. I mean, if they want it, 471 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,840 the chance for us all to be together again. 472 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:11,600 A proper family. 473 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,320 You always said the girls came first. 474 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,160 But I never meant for anyone to actually DO anything! 475 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:23,840 OK. 476 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:27,080 Can I read what your last post said? 477 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,760 "For too long, paedophiles, rapists and murderers 478 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:34,960 "have been treated as if they were the victims. 479 00:25:35,120 --> 00:25:37,240 "but enough is enough. 480 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,680 "If the government won't bring back the death penalty for such crimes, 481 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,600 "perhaps it's time for honest, law-abiding citizens, 482 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,080 "to take matters into their own hands." 483 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,520 And then you've put a picture of Peter Carr 484 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,920 with his work address, under the headline, "Monster". 485 00:25:52,120 --> 00:25:54,560 But I never said to anyone to kill him! 486 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:55,960 So when you said it was time 487 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,440 for people to take matters into their own hands, 488 00:25:58,600 --> 00:25:59,920 what did you mean, exactly? 489 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,640 I just wanted a job. 490 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,720 I'm 27, and I have a degree in journalism 491 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,800 that's cost me the best part of 50 grand. 492 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:15,960 And I have never 493 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,120 had proper paid work in my chosen field, 494 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,440 despite having written hundreds of job applications. 495 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,600 So I was just trying to... shock. 496 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,520 Cos... that's what you need to do these days. 497 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:34,000 Otherwise no-one hears you, no-one listens. 498 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,640 And if no-one listens, what are you? 499 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:40,360 You're no-one. 500 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,480 In terms of the IPCC it's a mandatory referral. 501 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,800 I don't really have any choice. 502 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:53,880 And the case? 503 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,240 The Reid family have reiterated their faith in you. 504 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,240 For now, the case remains yours. 505 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:02,880 Thank you. 506 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,720 Oh, just ask the actual fucking question, Em, please. 507 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,040 Look, I've got ten minutes before I'm due back, 508 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,840 and I really don't have time for endless, dreary euphemisms. 509 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,216 You don't have to get so unpleasant, Dad. Oh, you think? 510 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:27,800 It's just that, as your father, 511 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,280 I thought you might already know the answer. 512 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,200 I'm sorry. 513 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,640 I'm very stressed by all of this. 514 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,560 But, no. 515 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,680 I never hit your mum. 516 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,200 Apologies, but I... have a two o'clock. 517 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,440 And for the avoidance of any doubt, 518 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,960 I'm not a psychopathic murderer, either. 519 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,400 Just pull the door to, when you leave. 520 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:04,840 Love you. 521 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,360 DOOR CLOSES 522 00:28:25,360 --> 00:28:27,280 Els? 523 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,520 If you don't tell me the truth, Eliot, 524 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:42,920 I can't continue to protect you. Like you have for the past 32 years? 525 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,600 Protect me from what? Have you had a good look at me recently, Dad? 526 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,960 Prison. And I will happily do that. 527 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,320 I will lie for you, and say I was driving that night. 528 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:51,720 But you have to tell me the truth. 529 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:53,400 I've already told you a million times. 530 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:54,920 I don't think so. 531 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,600 Yes, I have. I was driving, I hit something, I don't know what. 532 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,160 I went out to look for it and couldn't find anything. That's it. 533 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,680 No. Yes! Because you actually went back that night. 534 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,040 I what?! I think you actually found her, 535 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:06,080 and then you hid her, 536 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,320 and then you went back to get her a few nights later. 537 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,640 What the fuck are you talking about? Tell me the truth, please, Eliot! 538 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,840 It's been 18 years, I need to hear it, now, I need to hear the truth! 539 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:21,120 Where was she found? Oh, you KNOW where she was found! 540 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,480 I don't! I've been using since you first called me! 541 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:24,960 Where was she found? 542 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,120 Tell me, where was she found?! She was buried in London. 543 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:39,640 What? 544 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:43,560 (No.) 545 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:44,720 What? 546 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,120 DOG BARKS Come on! 547 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,080 Good boy! 548 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,160 Wooh! DOG BARKS 549 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,520 Boss. Yep. 550 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,680 Uh, so, just got off the phone to Eastleigh nick, 551 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:22,360 which is the nearest one to Middenham, 552 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:26,040 so they've identified our 'G' as local drug dealer, 553 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:27,560 nickname 'Gandalf', 554 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:28,880 real name, Nigel Farndale. 555 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,440 He's got a 30-year record of drug offences, so they're gonna 556 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,680 pull him up and bring him straight in. OK. Thank you. 557 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,600 James Hollis is downstairs, with his son. 558 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,840 For the past 18 years 559 00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:00,520 I have believed that my son killed Hayley Reid. 560 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,960 Because he did steal my car, he was drunk, 561 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,080 and when he got back home at two in the morning 562 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,280 and I found him in his room in a terrible state, 563 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:14,840 he told me that he'd hit something. 564 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,600 He said that he'd got out to see what it was, 565 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,360 but couldn't find anything. 566 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,840 And although his gut instinct told him that it was just an animal... 567 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:26,920 ..he was also very scared... 568 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:29,960 ..that it might be a person. 569 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,240 Which fear grew, when the next day 570 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,160 news that Hayley Reid was missing started to filter through. 571 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,240 And the fact they couldn't find her 572 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,000 also, uh... fitted 573 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,120 because the road he was on 574 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,480 was next to the river 575 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,200 which had burst its banks following the heavy rain. 576 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,760 Meaning we had to consider 577 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,040 the awful possibility... 578 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,040 ..that she had been knocked into the water, washed down the river, 579 00:31:58,200 --> 00:31:59,680 and out to sea. 580 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,440 And for 18 years 581 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,800 he and I have hidden that, uh... 582 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,320 dreadful secret, and I'm so, so sorry for that. 583 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,280 And then she was found. 584 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,800 The nightmare should have been over. Except... 585 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,800 INHALES SHARPLY ..instead of finally 586 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:22,680 believing that he was innocent... 587 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:29,400 ..I started to believe that not only had he hit her, 588 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,720 but he'd actually found her, 589 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:33,240 and hidden her 590 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,800 to drive back down a few days later, 591 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,960 retrieve the body... and bury it in London. 592 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:43,920 Oh, it, erm... 593 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:48,520 might seem a terrible thing to believe about your son. 594 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,520 But... 595 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,560 18 years of this... 596 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,520 toxic secret between us, and... 597 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:02,040 ..seeing the consequences of that in everything my son has become... 598 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,800 ..has made my judgement bad. 599 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,440 And how do you know he didn't do exactly what you've described? 600 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:18,040 Because when I finally found him, just a few hours ago, 601 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:19,640 and talked to him properly 602 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:23,360 for the first time since Hayley had been found... 603 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:28,520 he reminded me that we drove back early on the 2nd, 604 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:30,200 to put him on a flight to Switzerland 605 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,160 for a school skiing trip. 606 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,800 He was away for ten days. There will be school records. 607 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,160 He could have driven back down there once he got back. 608 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,720 By which time the police and half the world's press 609 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,360 were in Middenham, so I don't think so. 610 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,120 But, listen, we're not hiding anymore. 611 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,440 He's here, to answer your questions. So ask him. 612 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:52,720 But... 613 00:33:53,177 --> 00:33:56,057 I think he did just hit a deer that night. 614 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,400 And by me... enabling him 615 00:34:01,997 --> 00:34:04,637 to not face up to his responsibilities... 616 00:34:08,201 --> 00:34:10,121 ..I've messed up his whole life. 617 00:34:13,505 --> 00:34:15,745 For absolutely no reason at all. 618 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,473 So, I'm gonna stay in the van tonight, 619 00:34:30,574 --> 00:34:33,174 because I want you to have the time you need, 620 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,520 you know, to absorb everything. 621 00:34:36,552 --> 00:34:39,552 And when might the police know, do you think... 622 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:43,800 ..that you're not a suspect anymore? 623 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:46,760 I don't know. 624 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,176 But if it's worth me saying one more time, 625 00:34:50,274 --> 00:34:51,874 you know, it wasn't me. 626 00:34:52,098 --> 00:34:55,378 Not Hayley Reid, not the credit card stuff, not anything. 627 00:34:57,720 --> 00:34:59,280 And sometimes... 628 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,560 we have to, you must know this, 629 00:35:01,998 --> 00:35:03,958 we have to accept that... 630 00:35:04,849 --> 00:35:07,329 ..that life can be just random, 631 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,080 and cruel, 632 00:35:09,535 --> 00:35:12,960 before being, in the blink of an eye, 633 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,000 just as randomly wonderful. 634 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:26,000 SHE SOBS 635 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:35,160 DOOR CLOSES 636 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:39,960 CAR LOCK CLICKS 637 00:35:42,981 --> 00:35:44,141 Eliot? 638 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:45,720 D'you wanna fuck off, Dad? 639 00:35:55,720 --> 00:35:57,712 He's right, I'm afraid. 640 00:35:58,404 --> 00:36:00,282 Within five days of her disappearance 641 00:36:00,369 --> 00:36:01,769 Middenham was crawling with police, 642 00:36:01,813 --> 00:36:05,063 there were search parties, choppers with cameras, road blocks, 643 00:36:05,180 --> 00:36:06,840 if she was murdered in Middenham, 644 00:36:06,930 --> 00:36:10,227 it was always my belief she had to have been moved within a day or so. 645 00:36:10,782 --> 00:36:12,120 KNOCK ON DOOR 646 00:36:12,162 --> 00:36:13,243 Sorry. 647 00:36:13,438 --> 00:36:14,918 They're looking at their records now, 648 00:36:15,048 --> 00:36:17,328 but the teacher I spoke to remembers the skiing trip well 649 00:36:17,379 --> 00:36:18,946 and remembers Eliot being on it, 650 00:36:19,055 --> 00:36:21,015 because he was such a pain in the arse. 651 00:36:21,410 --> 00:36:22,564 Right. 652 00:36:22,660 --> 00:36:24,780 And Nigel Farndale's here. 653 00:36:25,266 --> 00:36:26,313 Thanks. 654 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,560 Did you talk to the son? Uh, briefly. 655 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:31,560 And? My sense was 656 00:36:31,720 --> 00:36:33,840 he is telling the truth. 657 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,320 So for now we're letting them both go. 658 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:43,120 I better speak to this Farndale bloke. 659 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,800 Yeah, I better push off. No, thank you for coming in. 660 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,040 No worries. 661 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,920 Uh, look, I'm probably gonna head back down to Hampshire tomorrow, 662 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:55,680 so... Right. 663 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:57,960 But, erm... can I call you? 664 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,440 I don't know if this is a good idea, right now, John. 665 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:14,840 I've just got so much... 666 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,760 ..c-crap on, right now, that I need to sort out. 667 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,280 And... I'm not sure starting, uh... 668 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,480 It wouldn't be fair on you. 669 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:28,280 Sorry. 670 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:31,960 I'll call you, then. 671 00:37:59,960 --> 00:38:03,160 I mean, we all lived together for 10, 11 years, Mum, 672 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,560 we never saw him do anything like... 673 00:38:06,720 --> 00:38:09,880 You know, the photos, were they even you, or was it make-up, or...? 674 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:11,400 I dunno. 675 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,440 Help me out here, cos I'm struggling. 676 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,000 Well... 677 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,360 you're not struggling, Em, or you wouldn't be here. 678 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,800 You wouldn't have driven five hours just to ask! 679 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,480 Listen, I know I shouldn't have asked for the money, 680 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,440 it was stupid, but it was the first time in nearly 30 years 681 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,360 I felt like I had the upper hand. 682 00:38:32,240 --> 00:38:33,800 And I got a little giddy. 683 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:35,520 Although... 684 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,880 ..for what it's worth, he never did pay the settlement. 685 00:38:42,720 --> 00:38:46,080 These are the letters from my lawyer to his. 686 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,480 I instructed mine to stop fighting in 2005, 687 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,960 after your father put his hands around my neck, at our old house, 688 00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:58,480 and threatened to kill me. 689 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:05,400 Of course you and Clare never saw stuff, I did everything I could 690 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,480 to keep it from you both. 691 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:09,120 As did he. 692 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,440 For different reasons, obviously. 693 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,440 But that takes its toll, 694 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:16,600 sweetheart, living that lie. 695 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:22,240 To keep smiling, as you told me about all your fun times with him. 696 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,680 The lovely holidays with him. 697 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,640 When I knew... what he really was. 698 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,920 It took its toll on me, 699 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,480 and in turn, my problems served his deception well. 700 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,360 The photos were genuine, my love. 701 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,720 And you're here now because some part of you, 702 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,680 some subconscious part, 703 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,440 has always known that something was wrong. 704 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,160 And it gives me no pleasure at all 705 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,320 to tell you that you are right. 706 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,800 Yes, she came to my house that night. 707 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,080 Mm-hm. And that was to buy? 708 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,560 In 2000, it would have been E's, I'd imagine. 709 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,880 You didn't think to mention this to the police at the time? 710 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,400 I had a house full of gear! 711 00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,280 I knew I hadn't done anything wrong, so... 712 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,600 But, yeah, I'm sorry. I should have. 713 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,720 Do you remember what time she arrived? 714 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,560 Would have been about... twenty past eleven. 715 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,240 How do you remember so specifically? 716 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,720 Cos we chatted a bit, maybe ten minutes, then we left together. 717 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:44,360 I went to a party in Alcross, which is about half an hour aways, 718 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,720 and I remember I got there just as Big Ben was chiming. 719 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,720 And when she left, did she say where she was going? 720 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,200 She said straight to her party. 721 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,640 Erm, can you... 722 00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:01,960 show me where you were living, in 1999? 723 00:41:05,240 --> 00:41:08,280 So, if what he's saying is true, 724 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,160 then to get from the Farndales to the party house, 725 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,080 there's absolutely no reason for her to be passing the church. 726 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,120 Or where Eliot Hollis was spotted driving the car. 727 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,480 Which would seem to suggest James Hollis 728 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:21,640 is telling the truth, 729 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,960 as was Peter Carr. 730 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:26,640 Yeah. 731 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,120 As she walked from here to here, 732 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:30,600 if she encountered anyone, 733 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,160 the more likely it would be Chris Lowe or Tim Finch. 734 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,600 And I've just come off the phone to West End Central, 735 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:39,480 who have detailed records of the credit card investigation into Lowe, 736 00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:43,040 which they themselves now admit, 737 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:44,680 with hindsight, 738 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:46,280 was flawed. 739 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,600 So he didn't just hire good lawyers? 740 00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:50,120 On balance, they think not. 741 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,760 They think he should never have been charged. 742 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,960 That doesn't mean we eliminate him as a suspect, of course, 743 00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,960 but for now, I think we should concentrate our fire elsewhere. 744 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:02,920 And some, erm, slightly better news here. 745 00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,680 Yesterday we got in touch with DVLA to see if any of our 746 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:09,000 four main suspects had any endorsements 747 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,280 for the days after New Year. 748 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,920 And my thinking was, 749 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,520 you have a dead body in your boot, 750 00:42:16,720 --> 00:42:20,160 you might be driving a little faster than normal. 751 00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:24,320 So here is a copy of Tim Finch's driving license endorsements, 752 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,000 going back 35 years. 753 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,920 There's four speeding offences on there, which is kinda normal. 754 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,280 Except for the date of the second one. 755 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,040 Shit! 756 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,120 The 3rd of January, 2000. 757 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,000 That's the day after he got back to London. 758 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:43,920 D'you know where he got it? Not yet. 759 00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:45,280 They're gonna get back to us. 760 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,280 But that... is a tickle. 761 00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,680 That's definitely a tickle. 762 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:54,760 PHONE RINGS 763 00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:56,400 DI Khan. 'Have you got a pen?' 764 00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,560 Yes, yes, I have, yep. 765 00:42:58,720 --> 00:43:00,920 '6:20am, A405 South.' 766 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:02,840 That is so helpful, thank you so much. 767 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,760 Ticket was issued at 6:20am on the A405. Which is where? 768 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:09,800 Six miles outside of Middenham. 769 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:11,960 Was he heading to, or from? 770 00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:13,600 From. 771 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,120 KNOCK ON DOOR 772 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,360 Timothy Finch, I'm arresting you on suspicion of the murder 773 00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:34,760 of Hayley Reid. 774 00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:36,200 You do not have to say anything, 775 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,560 but it may harm your defence if you do not mention now 776 00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:40,240 something you later rely on in court. 777 00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,960 As you're being arrested, we have authority to search your premises 778 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,240 under Section 32 of the Police And Criminal Evidence Act. 779 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:50,880 Would you like to get dressed, please? 780 00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,480 Why were you on the road out of Middenham, 781 00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:37,520 heading to London, 782 00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:39,640 at... 6:20am, 783 00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,360 the day after you'd returned to London? 784 00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:46,480 I'd left my laptop in the house and drove back down to pick it up. 785 00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,280 I left very early because I wanted to be back in time 786 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:50,520 for morning surgery. 787 00:44:50,720 --> 00:44:53,200 And you'd arranged this with the lettings agency? 788 00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,080 Yes. They've made no mention of that. 789 00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,960 Well, what d'you want me to say? I arranged it. 790 00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,160 Who'd you speak to? 791 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:03,840 I don't remember, it's... 792 00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:05,720 nearly 20 years ago, erm... 793 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:07,200 a bloke, I think. 794 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,320 And, what, he took you round there, did he? 795 00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:12,040 At 6am? 796 00:45:12,240 --> 00:45:14,400 No, he left the key, under a flowerpot. 797 00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,600 Apparently the house was vacant that week, 798 00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:18,760 and he said to just let myself in. 799 00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,640 So why were you speeding? 800 00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:24,896 It had taken longer that I thought to get down there. 801 00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:26,760 I was running late. KNOCK ON DOOR 802 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,200 For the purposes of the interview, DC Collier has entered the room. 803 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,760 Sorry to interrupt, Ma'am. Can I have a quick word? 804 00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,080 Excuse me. 805 00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:40,680 Interview suspended at 8:31. RECORDER BEEPS 806 00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,240 In his cellar, behind a thousand boxes of junk, 807 00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,360 we found one of those old, like, money box type things. 808 00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,440 And when we got it open, we found these. 809 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,480 A necklace, with hair still attached to the clasp, 810 00:45:57,210 --> 00:45:59,090 a scrunchie... 811 00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,280 ..and a pair of knickers. 812 00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:16,360 Subtitles by TVT 61591

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