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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:01:29,047 --> 00:01:33,051 Continuing today's hearing on future VA funding... 2 00:01:33,051 --> 00:01:35,762 the Senate Committee on Veterans' Affairs... 3 00:01:35,762 --> 00:01:36,597 is called back to order. 4 00:01:36,597 --> 00:01:38,181 We'll hear from our next witness. 5 00:01:38,181 --> 00:01:41,810 Will you please stand and raise your right hand? 6 00:01:47,065 --> 00:01:49,443 My apologies. 7 00:01:49,443 --> 00:01:51,612 Please raise your right hand. 8 00:01:51,612 --> 00:01:53,822 Do you swear that the testimony you're about to give... 9 00:01:53,822 --> 00:01:55,782 this committee will be the truth, the whole truth... 10 00:01:55,782 --> 00:01:58,744 and nothing but the truth, so help you God? 11 00:01:58,744 --> 00:01:59,578 I do. 12 00:01:59,578 --> 00:02:00,912 Please state your name. 13 00:02:00,912 --> 00:02:05,334 Private First Class Adam Green, United States Army, retired. 14 00:02:05,334 --> 00:02:08,962 Mr. Green, I understand you've prepared a statement? 15 00:02:08,962 --> 00:02:09,671 I have, sir. 16 00:02:09,671 --> 00:02:13,425 You may enter it into the record at this time. 17 00:02:23,310 --> 00:02:29,274 Mr. Chairman, members of the Committee... 18 00:02:29,983 --> 00:02:32,527 I want to thank you for the opportunity... 19 00:02:32,527 --> 00:02:34,237 to speak with you today. 20 00:02:34,237 --> 00:02:37,574 I served in the military f-- 21 00:02:40,535 --> 00:02:44,498 I'm sorry, if I could just-- 22 00:02:44,498 --> 00:02:47,584 Sure, go ahead. 23 00:02:47,584 --> 00:02:49,294 Thank you, sir. 24 00:02:55,050 --> 00:02:57,803 I've always liked numbers. 25 00:02:57,803 --> 00:03:00,263 Whenever I have a hard time wrapping my head around... 26 00:03:00,263 --> 00:03:05,143 something, I find that numbers make things clearer for me. 27 00:03:05,143 --> 00:03:08,563 They help me understand decisions that are made... 28 00:03:08,563 --> 00:03:13,360 and the impacts of those decisions. 29 00:03:13,944 --> 00:03:14,861 So, if it's all right... 30 00:03:14,861 --> 00:03:19,908 I'd like the start with the number 1.4 million. 31 00:03:19,908 --> 00:03:21,410 That's the number of men and women... 32 00:03:21,410 --> 00:03:26,039 who are currently serving in our military. 33 00:03:26,039 --> 00:03:27,791 555... 34 00:03:27,791 --> 00:03:30,836 that's how many days passed before we invaded one country... 35 00:03:30,836 --> 00:03:34,840 after having been attacked by another. 36 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:39,344 19... is how old I was when I enlisted. 37 00:03:40,303 --> 00:03:43,348 Three is the number of hours that passed from the time... 38 00:03:43,348 --> 00:03:46,184 I arrived in Iraq to the time our transport... 39 00:03:46,184 --> 00:03:48,019 was destroyed by an l.E.D. 40 00:03:48,019 --> 00:03:50,814 And then there's six. 41 00:03:52,274 --> 00:03:55,569 That's the number of inches the piece of shrapnel was... 42 00:03:55,569 --> 00:03:58,447 that severed my spinal cord. 43 00:04:02,451 --> 00:04:07,205 The only problems with numbers is they can be impersonal. 44 00:04:08,081 --> 00:04:12,169 A decision you made had a life-changing impact on me... 45 00:04:12,169 --> 00:04:14,588 and a lot of soldiers like me. 46 00:04:14,588 --> 00:04:16,298 Now, I'm not a military expert. 47 00:04:16,298 --> 00:04:20,677 I don't know a whole lot about geopolitical affairs. 48 00:04:20,677 --> 00:04:22,554 L'm just an ordinary American. 49 00:04:22,554 --> 00:04:24,431 And I understand that you've asked me here... 50 00:04:24,431 --> 00:04:26,850 because you all have some questions for me, 51 00:04:26,850 --> 00:04:34,399 but if it's all right, I'd like to ask all of you a question. 52 00:04:40,447 --> 00:04:43,325 How the hell did this happen? 53 00:04:43,658 --> 00:04:46,912 My fellow citizens, at this hour... 54 00:04:46,912 --> 00:04:49,873 American and coalition forces are in the early stages... 55 00:04:49,873 --> 00:04:53,543 of military operations to disarm Iraq, to free... 56 00:04:53,543 --> 00:04:57,422 its people and to defend the world from grave danger. 57 00:04:57,422 --> 00:05:00,383 The start of the campaign called Shock and Awe. 58 00:05:00,383 --> 00:05:01,343 Shock and Awe. 59 00:05:01,343 --> 00:05:03,053 Shock and Awe.N Shock and Awe, indeed. 60 00:05:04,971 --> 00:05:06,723 The massive military operation... 61 00:05:06,723 --> 00:05:08,475 to topple Saddam Hussein is now in effect. 62 00:05:08,475 --> 00:05:10,185 Firing 600 Cruise missiles... 63 00:05:10,185 --> 00:05:12,145 and every type of war plane in the American arsenal. 64 00:05:12,145 --> 00:05:14,481 A fearsome display of American military might. 65 00:05:14,481 --> 00:05:16,107 The scale of this attack... 66 00:05:16,107 --> 00:05:18,235 is considerably higher than anything we've seen before. 67 00:05:18,235 --> 00:05:20,612 We're taking out whole buildings... 68 00:05:20,612 --> 00:05:21,780 with these Cruise missiles. 69 00:05:21,780 --> 00:05:23,448 U.S. war planes unleashed... 70 00:05:23,448 --> 00:05:25,659 to promise massive bombardment of Baghdad. 71 00:05:25,659 --> 00:05:27,828 3,000 Tomahawk Cruise missiles... 72 00:05:27,828 --> 00:05:30,914 satellite-guided precision bombs, laser-guided bombs. 73 00:05:30,914 --> 00:05:32,791 I think the citizens of Baghdad know... 74 00:05:32,791 --> 00:05:35,669 exactly what the Pentagon means by Shock and Awe. 75 00:05:35,669 --> 00:05:37,629 Just over the Kuwait-Iraq border... 76 00:05:37,629 --> 00:05:40,799 we watched as columns of troops moved into the country. 77 00:05:40,799 --> 00:05:42,384 They're well on their way to Baghdad. 78 00:05:42,384 --> 00:05:43,510 They have met resistance. 79 00:05:43,510 --> 00:05:45,512 We can't leave the television... 80 00:05:45,512 --> 00:05:49,724 every tank, every helicopter-- is that my son? 81 00:05:49,724 --> 00:05:53,103 Now Baghdad is within striking distance... 82 00:05:53,103 --> 00:05:54,563 just a few short miles away... 83 00:05:54,563 --> 00:05:57,691 as U.S. troops make their final push forward. 84 00:05:57,691 --> 00:05:59,651 We want to slaughter them all... 85 00:05:59,651 --> 00:06:02,612 those invaders, their tombs will be here in Iraq. 86 00:06:02,612 --> 00:06:04,990 If Saddam HusseinNis alive, he is quote... 87 00:06:04,990 --> 00:06:08,493 "Not in control of his military and of his government." 88 00:06:08,493 --> 00:06:11,872 These are opening stagesNof what will be a broad... 89 00:06:11,872 --> 00:06:12,789 and concerted campaign. 90 00:06:12,789 --> 00:06:17,043 Could be longer and more difficult than some predict. 91 00:06:17,043 --> 00:06:19,296 And helping Iraqis achieve a united, stable... 92 00:06:19,296 --> 00:06:23,508 and free country will require our sustained commitment. 93 00:06:23,508 --> 00:06:28,221 And you can know that our forces will be coming home... 94 00:06:28,221 --> 00:06:31,516 as soon as their work is done. 95 00:06:33,977 --> 00:06:37,397 Keep movmg! Keep moving! Let's go! 96 00:06:39,024 --> 00:06:40,859 Where are they taking us? Shut up. Head down. 97 00:06:40,859 --> 00:06:43,069 Keep your mouth shut or I'll blow your fucking head off. 98 00:06:43,069 --> 00:06:45,405 All right, all right. Are you a soldier? 99 00:06:45,405 --> 00:06:47,115 Journalist. Who do you work for? 100 00:06:47,115 --> 00:06:49,409 Knight Ridder. Never heard of it. 101 00:06:49,409 --> 00:06:51,870 You should read more. 102 00:06:55,707 --> 00:06:57,125 What is your name? 103 00:06:57,125 --> 00:06:59,544 Jonathan Landay. 104 00:07:01,338 --> 00:07:04,591 Goodbye, Jonathan Landay. 105 00:07:09,095 --> 00:07:11,348 Exercise complete. 106 00:07:11,348 --> 00:07:14,935 What you have just engaged in is called The Gray Man Exercise. 107 00:07:14,935 --> 00:07:16,853 And what you have just witnessed... 108 00:07:16,895 --> 00:07:20,273 is a colossal failure of that exercise. 109 00:07:20,315 --> 00:07:22,359 If a journalist is captured... 110 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:23,526 terrorists may keep you alive... 111 00:07:23,568 --> 00:07:27,530 in hopes of getting information or exchanging you for a ransom. 112 00:07:27,530 --> 00:07:31,117 But if you give them a reason to kill you, they will. 113 00:07:31,117 --> 00:07:33,578 The purpose of this exercise is to teach you... 114 00:07:33,578 --> 00:07:36,873 how to avoid drawing the attention of your captors. 115 00:07:36,873 --> 00:07:38,416 Hence the name, Gray Man. 116 00:07:38,416 --> 00:07:39,209 Can you untie me? 117 00:07:39,209 --> 00:07:41,169 This could save your life one day, you understand? 118 00:07:41,169 --> 00:07:43,713 I do, I've been in 11 war zones, I've been shot at... 119 00:07:43,713 --> 00:07:46,716 I've been held captive, I take this very seriously. 120 00:07:46,716 --> 00:07:50,845 But if you don't untie me right now, I may lose my job. 121 00:07:50,845 --> 00:07:53,848 And I'm fairly certain that none of this training... 122 00:07:53,848 --> 00:07:54,933 is going to be very useful... 123 00:07:54,933 --> 00:07:58,269 when I'm mopping the floor at Staples. 124 00:08:05,610 --> 00:08:07,112 Both of the twin towers... 125 00:08:07,112 --> 00:08:09,906 the World Trade Center in New York's lower Manhattan... 126 00:08:09,906 --> 00:08:13,410 have been struck by planes this morning within 20 minutes. 127 00:08:13,410 --> 00:08:15,453 First, it was the North Tower that was struck... 128 00:08:15,453 --> 00:08:18,832 with a gaping hole left in two sides of that building. 129 00:08:18,832 --> 00:08:19,541 Good God. 130 00:08:19,541 --> 00:08:21,459 20 minutes later, the second building... 131 00:08:21,459 --> 00:08:24,629 the second tower in that World Trade Center complex-- 132 00:08:24,629 --> 00:08:26,464 I think we should keep Elizabeth in school. 133 00:08:26,464 --> 00:08:28,341 Yeah, no, I think that's a good idea. 134 00:08:28,341 --> 00:08:29,217 Why freak her out, huh? 135 00:08:29,217 --> 00:08:33,263 And I'll call Ali and Jennifer as soon as the phones open up. 136 00:08:33,263 --> 00:08:34,931 I love you. I love you. 137 00:08:34,931 --> 00:08:35,557 Okay. 138 00:08:35,557 --> 00:08:37,058 We should tell you that... 139 00:08:37,058 --> 00:08:38,560 we have gotten calls from people... 140 00:08:38,560 --> 00:08:41,104 who live and work around the Pentagon who have told us... 141 00:08:41,104 --> 00:08:42,564 that they have seen something... 142 00:08:42,564 --> 00:08:44,441 that they have described as an explosion. 143 00:08:44,441 --> 00:08:48,820 This is information we have not been able to confirm. 144 00:09:24,481 --> 00:09:26,149 Get up. 145 00:09:28,777 --> 00:09:30,070 Sorry, Dad. 146 00:09:30,070 --> 00:09:32,489 Monday Night Football went long. 147 00:09:32,489 --> 00:09:35,450 Let's clean this place up. 148 00:09:41,372 --> 00:09:43,333 Trade Center here in New York... 149 00:09:43,333 --> 00:09:44,626 have been hit by airplanes. 150 00:09:44,626 --> 00:09:48,088 In Washington, there is a large fire at the Pentagon. 151 00:09:48,088 --> 00:09:49,506 The Pentagon has been evacuated. 152 00:09:49,506 --> 00:09:52,801 And there is, you can see, perhaps, the second tower... 153 00:09:52,801 --> 00:09:57,514 the front tower, the top portion of which is collapsing. 154 00:09:57,514 --> 00:09:58,973 Good Lord. 155 00:09:58,973 --> 00:10:04,562 Lot of people going to need a drink tonight. 156 00:10:04,562 --> 00:10:07,398 Soldiers drink free. 157 00:10:09,192 --> 00:10:12,028 There are no words. 158 00:10:12,028 --> 00:10:15,949 All federal office buildings now... 159 00:10:15,949 --> 00:10:19,035 all federal office buildings in Washington, D.C. 160 00:10:19,035 --> 00:10:21,913 are being evacuated as we speak to you now. 161 00:10:21,913 --> 00:10:24,999 We are in the middle of an extraordinary catastrophe. 162 00:10:24,999 --> 00:10:28,002 The most important things to tell you if you just joined... 163 00:10:28,002 --> 00:10:31,089 in is that what has all the makings of an extraordinarily.. 164 00:10:31,089 --> 00:10:35,385 well-planned terrorist attack on both Washington and New York 165 00:10:35,385 --> 00:10:36,636 has taken place this morning. 166 00:10:36,636 --> 00:10:38,388 The Trade Centers here in New York... 167 00:10:38,388 --> 00:10:41,391 the two World Trade Center towers have collapsed... 168 00:10:41,391 --> 00:10:45,353 after being hit by planes. 169 00:10:47,230 --> 00:10:51,192 Yeah, this is John Walcott from Knight Ridder. 170 00:10:51,192 --> 00:10:51,860 Is he there? 171 00:10:51,860 --> 00:10:56,990 Yeah, okay, well, tell him l'll try him back later. 172 00:10:56,990 --> 00:10:58,241 Thank you. 173 00:10:58,241 --> 00:10:59,492 I just spoke with my wife. 174 00:10:59,492 --> 00:11:02,370 She and the kids are afraid to leave the house. 175 00:11:02,370 --> 00:11:04,622 What are they doing over there? 176 00:11:04,622 --> 00:11:06,416 They're watching the White House. 177 00:11:06,416 --> 00:11:08,251 To see if it gets hit? 178 00:11:08,251 --> 00:11:08,751 Yes. 179 00:11:08,751 --> 00:11:11,087 Oh, Jesus. All right, go home to your family. 180 00:11:11,087 --> 00:11:15,133 And tell your colleagues that maybe they want to stay away... 181 00:11:15,133 --> 00:11:16,384 from the windows, okay? 182 00:11:16,384 --> 00:11:18,595 Thanks, John. Yeah. 183 00:11:18,595 --> 00:11:22,599 Okay. All right. Okay. 184 00:11:22,599 --> 00:11:26,853 Their working thesis is that this is overseas terrorism... 185 00:11:26,853 --> 00:11:27,729 not domestic. 186 00:11:27,729 --> 00:11:30,231 Attention will quickly turn to the bin Laden group... 187 00:11:30,231 --> 00:11:31,608 because it has long tentacles. 188 00:11:31,608 --> 00:11:34,736 There are very few others that could have pulled this off. 189 00:11:34,736 --> 00:11:35,945 Are we sending somebody to New York? 190 00:11:35,945 --> 00:11:39,240 Ken Moore at Suvu was already up there covering Wall Street. 191 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:40,867 What's going on over at State? 192 00:11:40,867 --> 00:11:41,784 Powell's in Peru. 193 00:11:41,784 --> 00:11:43,703 They're working on getting him home as soon as possible. 194 00:11:43,703 --> 00:11:46,873 All right, what we need to do is track the President. 195 00:11:46,873 --> 00:11:49,500 Track his top people and find out... 196 00:11:49,500 --> 00:11:51,252 who's responsible for all this. 197 00:11:51,252 --> 00:11:53,796 We need as many sources at as many agencies... 198 00:11:53,796 --> 00:11:57,217 to go on the record and tell us all what we know has to be true. 199 00:11:57,217 --> 00:12:01,221 Al Qaeda! Al Qaeda! lt's Al Qaeda. 200 00:12:01,221 --> 00:12:03,556 It's definitely Al Qaeda. 201 00:12:04,098 --> 00:12:06,017 What the hell are you wearing? 202 00:12:06,017 --> 00:12:08,019 Well, the wifey wanted to evacuate... 203 00:12:08,019 --> 00:12:12,607 but she locked the cat and the keys in the cars. 204 00:12:12,607 --> 00:12:14,275 So, I biked in. 205 00:12:14,275 --> 00:12:18,404 We need to know how they pulled this off. 206 00:12:18,404 --> 00:12:20,907 Anybody needs to go home to their family... 207 00:12:20,907 --> 00:12:22,742 feel free to do so. 208 00:12:22,742 --> 00:12:25,119 Just came from the family. 209 00:12:25,119 --> 00:12:28,539 Let's get to work. 210 00:12:29,123 --> 00:12:29,999 It's Walcott. 211 00:12:29,999 --> 00:12:32,585 Today, our fellow citizens, our way of life... 212 00:12:32,585 --> 00:12:37,465 our very freedom, came under attack in a series... 213 00:12:37,465 --> 00:12:40,760 of deliberate and deadly terrorist acts. 214 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:42,720 Adam, hand me the Jameson, please. 215 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,014 Yes, sir. Here you go. 216 00:12:45,014 --> 00:12:46,975 Thank you, son. 217 00:12:47,642 --> 00:12:49,686 It's on the house, gentlemen. 218 00:12:49,686 --> 00:12:50,186 Thanks. 219 00:12:50,186 --> 00:12:53,273 Dad's saying we're staying open as late as they want. 220 00:12:53,273 --> 00:12:55,441 They must be scared. 221 00:12:55,441 --> 00:12:58,611 They're Rangers. They're boys. 222 00:12:58,611 --> 00:13:02,782 Our military is powerful and it's prepared. 223 00:13:02,824 --> 00:13:04,534 The search is underway for those... 224 00:13:04,534 --> 00:13:05,827 who are behind these evil acts. 225 00:13:05,868 --> 00:13:08,454 I've directed the full resources of our intelligence. 226 00:13:08,454 --> 00:13:12,333 and law enforcement communities to find those responsible... 227 00:13:12,333 --> 00:13:16,170 and to bring them to justice. 228 00:13:18,464 --> 00:13:21,175 It's been 33 hours since the terrible... 229 00:13:21,217 --> 00:13:23,469 and unprecedented attack on the United States. 230 00:13:23,511 --> 00:13:26,723 There is, as we've said, an enormous search and rescue... 231 00:13:26,764 --> 00:13:31,477 operation, and enormous and intense criminal investigation. 232 00:13:31,477 --> 00:13:33,604 And we're just beginning to understand... 233 00:13:33,604 --> 00:13:35,690 the extents of the catastrophe. 234 00:13:35,690 --> 00:13:37,233 I feel like I haven't slept in a month. 235 00:13:37,233 --> 00:13:39,610 It's going to be a bunch of zombies running this town. 236 00:13:39,610 --> 00:13:41,696 What do you know about the preliminary plans... 237 00:13:41,696 --> 00:13:42,572 to go after bin Laden? 238 00:13:42,572 --> 00:13:44,240 I don't have anything to give you on that yet. 239 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,576 Ok, well, how long before we're on the ground in Afghanistan... 240 00:13:46,576 --> 00:13:48,202 and how long do they project we'll be there? 241 00:13:48,202 --> 00:13:51,998 Look, I'm trying to get answers to the same questions you are. 242 00:13:51,998 --> 00:13:55,585 What I can say is, most of the talk this morning... 243 00:13:55,585 --> 00:13:58,129 hasn't been about Afghanistan. 244 00:13:58,129 --> 00:14:00,798 Well, what's it been about? 245 00:14:02,175 --> 00:14:02,717 Iraq? 246 00:14:02,717 --> 00:14:05,428 I got it from a source at State who got it from the Pentagon. 247 00:14:05,428 --> 00:14:07,347 In connection with the attacks? 248 00:14:07,347 --> 00:14:09,807 Crackpot theories from people who don't know... 249 00:14:09,807 --> 00:14:11,893 what the hell they're talking about 250 00:14:11,893 --> 00:14:13,519 It was Rumsfeld. 251 00:14:13,519 --> 00:14:14,020 Really? 252 00:14:14,020 --> 00:14:16,606 Yeah, apparently, there's a lot of people over at Defense... 253 00:14:16,606 --> 00:14:18,733 that think this had to be State-sponsored. 254 00:14:18,733 --> 00:14:22,403 I mean, not just Rumsfeld, there's also that smug... 255 00:14:22,403 --> 00:14:26,199 son of a bitch at the Defense Policy Board... 256 00:14:26,199 --> 00:14:27,408 the Prince of Darkness? 257 00:14:27,408 --> 00:14:29,118 Richard Perle. Right. Perle. 258 00:14:29,118 --> 00:14:31,371 And that nee-con over at the Protect... 259 00:14:31,371 --> 00:14:33,915 for the New American whatever the fuck... 260 00:14:33,915 --> 00:14:35,333 New American Century, Bill Kristol. 261 00:14:35,333 --> 00:14:36,751 That giant butthole, Bill Kristol. 262 00:14:36,751 --> 00:14:41,214 And he's got to be creaming his little jammies over this. 263 00:14:41,214 --> 00:14:42,256 Yeah, these think-tank boys... 264 00:14:42,256 --> 00:14:44,634 have been trying to push out Saddam Hussein since '97. 265 00:14:44,634 --> 00:14:48,721 They have this crazy theory that if they can just stick... 266 00:14:48,721 --> 00:14:51,015 a Western-style of democracy in the Middle East... 267 00:14:51,015 --> 00:14:53,684 it's going to magically proliferate... 268 00:14:53,684 --> 00:14:54,727 and wind up protecting Israel. 269 00:14:54,727 --> 00:14:57,772 You got to give them credit for creative thinking. 270 00:14:57,772 --> 00:14:59,273 It's Ivory Tower crap. 271 00:14:59,273 --> 00:15:02,360 I mean, in what world do they think that Osama bin Laden... 272 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:05,530 and Saddam Hussein hatched this thing up together? 273 00:15:05,530 --> 00:15:07,782 Let's find out if these dickweeds... 274 00:15:07,782 --> 00:15:10,076 are serious about Iraq, okay? 275 00:15:10,076 --> 00:15:12,745 Look, I'm not saying there's a link to Iraq... 276 00:15:12,745 --> 00:15:13,579 and neither is my boss. 277 00:15:13,579 --> 00:15:15,748 This is just something we're hearing. 278 00:15:15,748 --> 00:15:16,457 From whom? 279 00:15:16,457 --> 00:15:19,293 Who told me or where is it coming from? 280 00:15:19,293 --> 00:15:20,711 Take your pick. 281 00:15:20,711 --> 00:15:21,838 Someone at the Pentagon. 282 00:15:21,838 --> 00:15:24,006 In the Vice President's office? 283 00:15:24,006 --> 00:15:24,882 It's just theories. 284 00:15:24,882 --> 00:15:27,385 Are there any Senators talking to anyone... 285 00:15:27,385 --> 00:15:29,512 saying anything different? 286 00:15:29,512 --> 00:15:30,596 I know Powell's objected... 287 00:15:30,596 --> 00:15:34,725 to going into anywhere other than Afghanistan. 288 00:16:06,674 --> 00:16:07,216 Go away. 289 00:16:07,216 --> 00:16:08,301 One question and I'm gone. 290 00:16:08,301 --> 00:16:10,011 L'm not talking to you on the record. 291 00:16:10,011 --> 00:16:14,724 Anonymous source, intelligence community. 292 00:16:15,099 --> 00:16:16,851 You can't use my name. 293 00:16:16,851 --> 00:16:19,228 Never have, never will. 294 00:16:19,228 --> 00:16:20,229 Or my agency- 295 00:16:20,229 --> 00:16:22,732 Pinky swear. 296 00:16:24,233 --> 00:16:26,444 One question. 297 00:16:26,444 --> 00:16:30,656 Are you looking into an Iraqi connection? 298 00:16:31,699 --> 00:16:34,452 Who's the you in that question? 299 00:16:34,452 --> 00:16:36,245 Are we in the United States? 300 00:16:36,245 --> 00:16:37,997 There are some people. 301 00:16:37,997 --> 00:16:39,373 Are we in my agency? 302 00:16:39,373 --> 00:16:41,417 Not that I'm aware of. 303 00:16:41,417 --> 00:16:44,337 Am I, personally? 304 00:16:44,337 --> 00:16:45,838 No way. 305 00:16:45,838 --> 00:16:48,716 Okay, the second part to the question. 306 00:16:48,716 --> 00:16:49,800 No. 307 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:51,886 Thank you. 308 00:16:52,678 --> 00:16:55,139 So, no one you work with at the Library of Congress has ever... 309 00:16:55,139 --> 00:16:57,350 found a link between Saddam Hussein and Al Qaeda? 310 00:16:57,350 --> 00:17:00,520 No one I work with would expect to find a link. 311 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:01,521 So, as far as you know... 312 00:17:01,521 --> 00:17:03,356 there's nothing substantial to tie Iraq to bin Laden? 313 00:17:03,356 --> 00:17:04,774 There's nothing even circumstantial. 314 00:17:04,774 --> 00:17:06,734 To lump together a secular leader like Saddam... 315 00:17:06,734 --> 00:17:10,112 with an Islamic extremist like bin Laden is simply... 316 00:17:10,112 --> 00:17:13,449 to have no understanding of the Muslim world. 317 00:17:17,078 --> 00:17:17,995 It's a bit timid. 318 00:17:17,995 --> 00:17:20,665 No one's actually come out and said anything publicly yet. 319 00:17:20,665 --> 00:17:22,917 Maybe it's just backroom speculation. 320 00:17:22,917 --> 00:17:24,043 Pretty dangerous speculation. 321 00:17:24,043 --> 00:17:26,128 Can't we hit it harder than this? 322 00:17:26,128 --> 00:17:27,880 The attacks were just 10 days ago. 323 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:29,465 Everyone's trying to play catch-up. 324 00:17:29,465 --> 00:17:31,008 Got to press our reliables. 325 00:17:31,008 --> 00:17:32,718 L'll reach out to The Italian Lady. 326 00:17:32,718 --> 00:17:34,929 You think you can get Loose Nukes to go on the record? 327 00:17:34,929 --> 00:17:37,306 I'm lucky to get her on deep background. 328 00:17:37,306 --> 00:17:41,060 Well, double down on the Charm Offensive. 329 00:17:41,060 --> 00:17:43,354 Buongiorno, this is Warren Strobel. 330 00:17:43,354 --> 00:17:46,732 I was looking to get your advice on a critical scheduling matter. 331 00:17:46,732 --> 00:17:50,152 If you could contact me at your earliest possible convenience... 332 00:17:50,152 --> 00:17:53,573 I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you. 333 00:17:53,573 --> 00:17:54,699 Hello. 334 00:17:54,699 --> 00:17:55,741 Yeah, hi, it's Jonathan. 335 00:17:55,741 --> 00:17:57,493 I don't have anything for you. 336 00:17:57,493 --> 00:18:00,830 No, I know, I know, but I'm doing a story... 337 00:18:00,830 --> 00:18:02,790 on the administration's seeming interest in Iraq. 338 00:18:02,790 --> 00:18:05,084 Jonathan, we're not going to talk about this. 339 00:18:05,084 --> 00:18:07,795 No, I know, I know I'm not talking about this... 340 00:18:07,795 --> 00:18:11,966 because it's off the record, but can you give me some indication? 341 00:18:11,966 --> 00:18:14,093 Bye, Jonathan. 342 00:18:15,428 --> 00:18:16,804 What'd she say? 343 00:18:16,804 --> 00:18:18,723 She sends her love. 344 00:18:18,723 --> 00:18:20,141 Across the nation... 345 00:18:20,141 --> 00:18:21,684 flags have been flying off the shelves. 346 00:18:21,684 --> 00:18:25,605 A wave of patriotism has been spreading across America. 347 00:18:25,605 --> 00:18:30,067 At times like this, ifs what we do in America. 348 00:18:30,067 --> 00:18:33,362 We the People pull together. 349 00:18:33,362 --> 00:18:35,448 They had a discussion in school today... 350 00:18:35,448 --> 00:18:38,242 about why America is so great, right? 351 00:18:38,242 --> 00:18:39,910 Yeah, and what'd you say? 352 00:18:39,910 --> 00:18:41,329 It's a free country. 353 00:18:41,329 --> 00:18:42,913 That's a great answer. 354 00:18:42,913 --> 00:18:44,582 That's Mama's boy. 355 00:18:44,582 --> 00:18:46,167 May I be done now? 356 00:18:46,167 --> 00:18:48,127 Not until I get a big hug. 357 00:18:48,127 --> 00:18:51,589 Okay, after your mom gets a hug. 358 00:18:51,589 --> 00:18:53,841 Oh, whoa! 359 00:18:55,718 --> 00:18:57,470 Proud of you, munchie. 360 00:18:57,470 --> 00:18:59,889 Love you. 361 00:19:00,473 --> 00:19:05,227 They're really pushing this nationalism thing at school. 362 00:19:05,269 --> 00:19:06,145 What do you expect? 363 00:19:06,187 --> 00:19:08,356 Of course, there's going to be patriotism now. 364 00:19:08,356 --> 00:19:12,693 Oh, you want to call it patriotism? 365 00:19:12,693 --> 00:19:13,527 Fine. 366 00:19:13,569 --> 00:19:14,904 It smells a lot like nationalism to me. 367 00:19:14,945 --> 00:19:20,701 That's how it started in Yugoslavia before the war. 368 00:19:20,743 --> 00:19:23,454 Tore my country apart. 369 00:19:46,143 --> 00:19:48,979 You want some help? 370 00:19:48,979 --> 00:19:52,316 No, I'm okay, thank you. 371 00:19:53,776 --> 00:19:55,861 Okay, have a good night. 372 00:19:55,861 --> 00:19:57,405 Good night. 373 00:20:04,120 --> 00:20:06,622 How real is the Iraqi conversation? 374 00:20:06,622 --> 00:20:09,041 There's an argument taking place. 375 00:20:09,041 --> 00:20:12,086 Yeah? Who's winning it? 376 00:20:12,086 --> 00:20:12,837 I couldn't say. 377 00:20:12,837 --> 00:20:17,174 Look, my boss is gonna send me to Afghanistan, and all I want.. 378 00:20:17,174 --> 00:20:20,553 To know is should he be buying a roundtrip ticket... 379 00:20:20,553 --> 00:20:26,392 or is Afghanistan just a layover on the way to Baghdad? 380 00:20:29,603 --> 00:20:31,897 I can't tell you anything. 381 00:20:31,897 --> 00:20:33,983 I believe major acts of terrorism... 382 00:20:33,983 --> 00:20:36,902 against the U.S. are state-sponsored. 383 00:20:36,902 --> 00:20:40,030 So, we asked ourselves, "Who could have been behind... 384 00:20:40,030 --> 00:20:44,034 the most massive terrorist assault in human history... 385 00:20:44,034 --> 00:20:44,785 "which state?" 386 00:20:44,785 --> 00:20:50,332 I think Iraq is the state that most immediately comes to mind. 387 00:20:50,332 --> 00:20:53,210 This is an idea which in... 388 00:20:53,210 --> 00:20:55,588 is gaining increased credibility. 389 00:20:55,588 --> 00:20:57,047 Knight Ridder, it's Strobel. 390 00:20:57,047 --> 00:20:58,716 Jim Woolsey is going to Europe... 391 00:20:58,716 --> 00:21:00,551 to try to find a link between Saddam... 392 00:21:00,551 --> 00:21:04,388 and the 1993 World Trade Center bombing. 393 00:21:04,930 --> 00:21:05,806 ls he freelancing? 394 00:21:05,806 --> 00:21:08,893 He was sent on an official government jet. 395 00:21:08,893 --> 00:21:10,394 Jesus, who sent him? 396 00:21:10,394 --> 00:21:13,773 The deputy defense secretary. 397 00:21:13,773 --> 00:21:15,441 Can you meet for coffee? 398 00:21:15,441 --> 00:21:18,194 I'll be in touch. 399 00:21:18,360 --> 00:21:20,821 Hi, this is Warren Strobel with Knight Ridder. 400 00:21:20,821 --> 00:21:21,864 I'm working on a story... 401 00:21:21,864 --> 00:21:24,241 about former CIA director James Woolsey traveling to Europe. 402 00:21:24,241 --> 00:21:25,534 Do you know anything about that? 403 00:21:25,534 --> 00:21:28,621 I didn't have anything to do with that. 404 00:21:28,621 --> 00:21:30,664 But you're aware that such a trip has taken place? 405 00:21:30,664 --> 00:21:34,710 I can't be your only source on this. 406 00:21:34,710 --> 00:21:37,755 All right, stay in touch. 407 00:21:38,964 --> 00:21:40,716 Hey, John. 408 00:21:40,716 --> 00:21:42,635 Woolsey was sent to Europe to look for evidence... 409 00:21:42,635 --> 00:21:45,471 linking Saddam to the World Trade Center bombing in '93. 410 00:21:45,471 --> 00:21:49,600 Wouldn't be a fool's errand if they didn't send a fool. 411 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,185 This came from The Italian Lady? 412 00:21:51,185 --> 00:21:52,520 And a diplomat who can confirm... 413 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:53,646 the trip was arranged by Wolfowitz. 414 00:21:53,646 --> 00:21:55,272 What the hell is going on over at Defense? 415 00:21:55,272 --> 00:21:57,274 Question is, are they trying to figure out... 416 00:21:57,274 --> 00:21:58,776 if there's any truth to their theory... 417 00:21:58,776 --> 00:22:01,821 or are they already convinced their theory is true? 418 00:22:01,821 --> 00:22:03,697 You're sure about this Woolsey trip? 419 00:22:03,697 --> 00:22:06,116 Positive. You have a third source? 420 00:22:06,116 --> 00:22:07,368 Yeah. Who? 421 00:22:07,368 --> 00:22:09,662 Jim Woolsey. 422 00:22:20,756 --> 00:22:25,761 Hey, it's Walcott, you up for a field trip? 423 00:22:27,596 --> 00:22:29,139 I figured you'd be calling... 424 00:22:29,139 --> 00:22:32,309 I just didn't think it would be this soon. 425 00:22:34,228 --> 00:22:37,189 How real is the chatter about Iraq? 426 00:22:37,189 --> 00:22:37,648 Very. 427 00:22:37,648 --> 00:22:42,027 And it's diverting our attention from the people who attacked us. 428 00:22:42,027 --> 00:22:46,073 How soon before Iraq becomes the focus? 429 00:22:46,824 --> 00:22:49,243 We need to blow something up. 430 00:22:49,243 --> 00:22:51,662 Not enough targets in Afghanistan. 431 00:22:51,662 --> 00:22:52,788 What about bin Laden? 432 00:22:52,788 --> 00:22:53,747 You take out bin Laden... 433 00:22:53,747 --> 00:22:57,501 interest in the war goes right down the shitter. 434 00:22:57,751 --> 00:23:01,422 A joint offensive in its sixth day in Tora Bora... 435 00:23:01,422 --> 00:23:03,007 bin Laden 's suspected hideout... 436 00:23:03,007 --> 00:23:05,676 but still no signs of the world's most wanted man. 437 00:23:05,676 --> 00:23:10,139 U.S. B-52s pounding AI Qaeda positions from the air... 438 00:23:10,139 --> 00:23:11,599 while anti-Taliban tanks... 439 00:23:11,599 --> 00:23:13,309 and troops meet strong resistance... 440 00:23:13,309 --> 00:23:15,728 cave to cave, from Al Qaeda fighters. 441 00:23:15,728 --> 00:23:17,855 With yet more conflicting reports... 442 00:23:17,855 --> 00:23:22,026 on bin Laden 's whereabouts. 443 00:23:22,026 --> 00:23:22,902 What you got there... 444 00:23:22,902 --> 00:23:25,446 is that your State of the Union piece for tomorrow? 445 00:23:25,446 --> 00:23:27,865 Yup. You got a lunch today? 446 00:23:27,865 --> 00:23:29,241 Not with you. 447 00:23:29,241 --> 00:23:32,036 I got a one-on-one with Looney Tunes over at State. 448 00:23:32,036 --> 00:23:32,953 There's a dry hole. 449 00:23:32,953 --> 00:23:34,580 Yeah, well, I figured if I just let him ramble on... 450 00:23:34,580 --> 00:23:37,416 he'll accidentally stumble into something newsworthy. 451 00:23:37,416 --> 00:23:38,375 Yeah, well, give my best. 452 00:23:38,375 --> 00:23:40,586 I will. Hot off the presses, Beryl. 453 00:23:40,586 --> 00:23:41,879 Did you use punctuation this time? 454 00:23:41,879 --> 00:23:43,422 I even threw in a few semicolons just for you. 455 00:23:43,422 --> 00:23:47,217 I bet you're the pride of the University of Missouri. 456 00:23:47,217 --> 00:23:51,430 Terrorists who once occupied Afghanistan... 457 00:23:51,430 --> 00:23:55,434 now occupy cells at Guantanamo Bay. 458 00:23:57,186 --> 00:24:00,439 And terrorist leaders who urged followers to sacrifice... 459 00:24:00,439 --> 00:24:03,525 their lives are running' for their own. 460 00:24:03,525 --> 00:24:08,197 Now, the administration's top priority apart from our own... 461 00:24:08,197 --> 00:24:12,242 security is to ensure freedom for other countries... 462 00:24:12,242 --> 00:24:16,330 looking to embrace democracy as a way of life. 463 00:24:16,330 --> 00:24:19,750 Now, we-- excuse me-- we understand that we can't... 464 00:24:19,750 --> 00:24:21,335 be the policemen to the world... 465 00:24:21,335 --> 00:24:24,463 but we feel we have a responsibility to... 466 00:24:24,463 --> 00:24:25,756 Yeah, John Walcott. 467 00:24:25,756 --> 00:24:27,549 John! 468 00:24:27,549 --> 00:24:28,258 Dixie? 469 00:24:28,258 --> 00:24:29,593 John, can you hear me? 470 00:24:29,593 --> 00:24:30,678 Yeah, yeah, I can hear you. 471 00:24:30,678 --> 00:24:33,138 I got a call from one of our boys downrange today... 472 00:24:33,138 --> 00:24:35,140 asking me what the fuck's going on. 473 00:24:35,140 --> 00:24:36,850 Are you still in Afghanistan? 474 00:24:36,850 --> 00:24:37,935 Yeah, I'm in Afghanistan... 475 00:24:37,935 --> 00:24:39,478 but nobody knows what the mission is anymore. 476 00:24:39,478 --> 00:24:41,230 How do you bomb a country back into the Stone Age... 477 00:24:41,230 --> 00:24:43,524 that's already in the middle of the goddamn Stone Age? 478 00:24:43,524 --> 00:24:46,652 Our second goal is to prevent regimes that sponsor terror... 479 00:24:46,652 --> 00:24:51,281 from threatening America, or our friends and allies... 480 00:24:51,281 --> 00:24:52,908 with weapons of mass destruction. 481 00:24:52,908 --> 00:24:56,912 We believe that Afghanistan is ripe for freedom. 482 00:24:56,912 --> 00:25:00,374 Now, this is a country that has been struggling to free... 483 00:25:00,374 --> 00:25:03,377 itself from the repressive grip of the Taliban for years. 484 00:25:03,377 --> 00:25:06,964 We've got bin Laden on the run and they're diverting my assets. 485 00:25:06,964 --> 00:25:08,757 We may never get him in our crosshairs again. 486 00:25:08,757 --> 00:25:12,344 Whoa, whoa, wait, they're diverting your assets to where? 487 00:25:12,386 --> 00:25:14,763 Some of these regimes have been pretty quiet since... 488 00:25:14,805 --> 00:25:18,267 September the 11th, but we know their true nature. 489 00:25:18,308 --> 00:25:22,604 You know, it's a country in desperate need of the kind... 490 00:25:22,604 --> 00:25:25,357 of stability that comes with the rule of law. 491 00:25:25,357 --> 00:25:29,153 North Korea, Iran, Iraq... states like these... 492 00:25:29,153 --> 00:25:34,450 and their terrorist allies constitute an axis of evil... 493 00:25:34,450 --> 00:25:36,785 arming to threaten the peace of the world. 494 00:25:36,785 --> 00:25:37,870 You'll have to excuse me... 495 00:25:37,870 --> 00:25:41,749 Warren, but I have to prepare a briefing for Secretary Powell. 496 00:25:41,749 --> 00:25:42,291 Sure. 497 00:25:42,291 --> 00:25:43,709 Anything else you need from me? 498 00:25:43,709 --> 00:25:44,501 No, no, thank you. 499 00:25:44,501 --> 00:25:47,296 I think you've given me more than enough to chew on. 500 00:25:47,296 --> 00:25:47,921 Excellent. 501 00:25:47,921 --> 00:25:49,506 And you feel confident that Afghanistan... 502 00:25:49,506 --> 00:25:51,675 will accept a Western-style democracy? 503 00:25:51,675 --> 00:25:52,342 Oh, absolutely. 504 00:25:52,342 --> 00:25:54,762 Just as confident as we are about Iraq. 505 00:25:54,762 --> 00:25:58,766 Sounds like the debate on Iraq is getting serious. 506 00:25:58,766 --> 00:26:01,185 Oh, no, no, no, that debate is over. 507 00:26:01,185 --> 00:26:05,230 Saddam's got to go, the only question is how. 508 00:26:05,230 --> 00:26:06,607 Good talking to you, Warren. 509 00:26:06,607 --> 00:26:09,193 Yeah, you, too, sir. 510 00:26:10,319 --> 00:26:11,862 The president is going to invade Iraq. 511 00:26:11,862 --> 00:26:13,238 You got this from Looney Tunes? 512 00:26:13,238 --> 00:26:15,365 Yeah, and confirmed by a diplomat who says he met... 513 00:26:15,365 --> 00:26:18,535 with Bush, and a foreign leader recently who came away with... 514 00:26:18,535 --> 00:26:21,997 "The feeling that a decision has been made to strike Iraq." 515 00:26:21,997 --> 00:26:24,833 Do you think we can get enough to run the story? 516 00:26:24,833 --> 00:26:27,753 Unfortunately, I do. 517 00:26:39,765 --> 00:26:41,517 So much for the ceasefire. 518 00:26:41,517 --> 00:26:42,810 Yeah, well, really nice of us... 519 00:26:42,810 --> 00:26:46,688 to temporarily stop shooting at them, though. 520 00:27:06,708 --> 00:27:08,001 What are you up to, Smucker? 521 00:27:08,001 --> 00:27:12,047 You know, I tried to chat with your translator today. 522 00:27:12,047 --> 00:27:12,965 Yeah, how'd that go? 523 00:27:12,965 --> 00:27:16,510 Well, for a guy who gets paid to talk for a living... 524 00:27:16,510 --> 00:27:19,096 he was unusually quiet. 525 00:27:19,096 --> 00:27:21,306 He only talks to me. 526 00:27:21,306 --> 00:27:25,018 Really? And what'd he tell you? 527 00:27:25,018 --> 00:27:28,772 Dollar, I'll let you read all about it. 528 00:27:28,772 --> 00:27:32,401 Let me see it. 529 00:27:32,401 --> 00:27:36,572 Bin Laden's gone, isn't he? 530 00:27:36,572 --> 00:27:39,741 They missed him, didn't they? 531 00:27:39,741 --> 00:27:45,330 He was here and they fucking missed him! 532 00:27:45,914 --> 00:27:47,708 A senior U.S. military official... 533 00:27:47,708 --> 00:27:50,169 tells NBC News "Despite the crushing defeat... 534 00:27:50,169 --> 00:27:51,628 "of AI Qaeda forces at Tora Bora... 535 00:27:51,628 --> 00:27:54,798 "ifs believed now that Osama bin Laden has slipped... 536 00:27:54,798 --> 00:27:57,801 "across the border into Pakistan, seeking refuge... 537 00:27:57,801 --> 00:27:59,219 "in a lawless no man's land... 538 00:27:59,219 --> 00:28:02,472 "ruled by renegade tribal warlords." 539 00:28:02,472 --> 00:28:03,724 Oh, it's official... 540 00:28:03,724 --> 00:28:06,393 this is the saddest event I've ever attended. 541 00:28:06,393 --> 00:28:09,021 I'm going back to my apartment, drink a bottle of wine... 542 00:28:09,021 --> 00:28:10,397 and put my head in the oven. 543 00:28:10,397 --> 00:28:11,398 Okay, but before you do that... 544 00:28:11,398 --> 00:28:15,194 I really want you to meet the guy I was telling you about. 545 00:28:15,194 --> 00:28:16,570 Oh! He just walked in! 546 00:28:16,570 --> 00:28:18,572 Forget the wine, l'll kill myself now. 547 00:28:18,572 --> 00:28:23,577 No, not him... him. l'll introduce you. 548 00:28:23,577 --> 00:28:24,620 Pam, please don't. 549 00:28:24,620 --> 00:28:27,122 Warren! Hey! Oh, hi. 550 00:28:27,122 --> 00:28:28,832 Glad you could make it, come on over. 551 00:28:28,832 --> 00:28:31,960 Warren, this is a good friend of mine, Lisa Mayr. 552 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,463 Lisa, this is Warren Strobel, he's a journalist... 553 00:28:34,463 --> 00:28:37,007 and I'm gonna get another drink. 554 00:28:38,717 --> 00:28:39,801 Hi, uh, Lisa? 555 00:28:39,801 --> 00:28:41,762 Yeah. Yeah, nice to meet you. 556 00:28:41,762 --> 00:28:43,972 Hi. Uh... 557 00:28:44,306 --> 00:28:46,934 Did you ever make it into your apartment? 558 00:28:46,934 --> 00:28:51,688 Uh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, no, I'm sorry. 559 00:28:51,688 --> 00:28:56,360 Yeah, I made it in okay. Good. Good. 560 00:28:57,194 --> 00:28:59,279 So, you're a journalist? 561 00:28:59,279 --> 00:29:01,823 Yeah, yeah, for Knight Ridder. 562 00:29:01,823 --> 00:29:04,076 Oh, is that a magazine or a newspaper? 563 00:29:04,076 --> 00:29:09,414 It's actually a consortium of 31 newspapers, actually. 564 00:29:09,414 --> 00:29:11,166 Well, my stories go out to all of our newspapers... 565 00:29:11,166 --> 00:29:14,461 and each one has the option to publish or not. 566 00:29:14,461 --> 00:29:18,548 Oh, okay. I've always wondered how that worked. 567 00:29:18,548 --> 00:29:20,384 Yeah. 568 00:29:22,594 --> 00:29:26,473 Hey, I got married when I was 22. 569 00:29:26,473 --> 00:29:30,394 And we're only recently separated, so... 570 00:29:30,394 --> 00:29:33,105 This is a little awkward for me. 571 00:29:33,105 --> 00:29:34,231 It's okay. 572 00:29:34,231 --> 00:29:35,899 L'm a little out of practice. 573 00:29:35,899 --> 00:29:40,362 Why don't you start by asking me a question? 574 00:29:40,362 --> 00:29:43,657 Sure, yeah. 575 00:29:44,491 --> 00:29:47,744 Are you a Republican or a Democrat? 576 00:29:48,870 --> 00:29:49,871 Try again. 577 00:29:49,871 --> 00:29:53,458 Yeah, of course, she wants you to call her. 578 00:29:53,458 --> 00:29:54,334 She gave you her card. 579 00:29:54,334 --> 00:29:56,712 No, maybe she's just trying to gin up business. 580 00:29:56,712 --> 00:29:59,423 At a singles mixer on Valentine's Day? 581 00:29:59,423 --> 00:30:01,383 What? So, call her? I should call her? 582 00:30:01,383 --> 00:30:03,260 What? No, no, no, actually, let her dangle. 583 00:30:03,260 --> 00:30:05,846 There's nothing a woman in her 30s likes more... 584 00:30:05,846 --> 00:30:08,015 than a guy who takes his time. 585 00:30:08,015 --> 00:30:09,266 I'm fine, Arthur, I'm fine. 586 00:30:09,266 --> 00:30:12,311 It's just that I'm getting a little tired... 587 00:30:12,311 --> 00:30:13,895 of picking up your paper every morning... 588 00:30:13,895 --> 00:30:16,398 and seeing that you're not running our stories. 589 00:30:16,398 --> 00:30:17,441 I mean, last time I looked... 590 00:30:17,441 --> 00:30:21,236 The Philadelphia Inquirer was a Knight Ridder paper, right? 591 00:30:21,236 --> 00:30:25,198 The point is, there's no point in being a Knight Ridder paper.. 592 00:30:25,198 --> 00:30:27,492 If you're not going to run Knight Ridder stories. 593 00:30:27,492 --> 00:30:29,828 John, we've been through this already. 594 00:30:29,828 --> 00:30:31,079 Your stories don't fit... 595 00:30:31,079 --> 00:30:33,874 in with what we're doing over here right now. 596 00:30:33,874 --> 00:30:36,251 Don't fit? Don't fit with what? The truth? 597 00:30:36,251 --> 00:30:37,878 What's the matter, Arthur... 598 00:30:37,878 --> 00:30:39,504 the truth doesn't sell papers anymore? 599 00:30:39,504 --> 00:30:41,590 And today, for the first time... 600 00:30:41,590 --> 00:30:42,716 the administration provided... 601 00:30:42,716 --> 00:30:46,261 details for what it has always insisted was a connection... 602 00:30:46,261 --> 00:30:49,181 between Saddam Hussein and Al Qaeda. 603 00:30:49,181 --> 00:30:50,182 How strong is that case? 604 00:30:50,182 --> 00:30:52,267 Iraqi president Saddam Hussein says... 605 00:30:52,267 --> 00:30:55,228 he does not have any illegal weapons of mass destruction... 606 00:30:55,228 --> 00:30:59,107 and accused the United States of using weapons... 607 00:30:59,107 --> 00:31:01,151 as a pretext to start a war. 608 00:31:01,151 --> 00:31:05,489 Mr. Galloway, how closely did the movie conform to your book? 609 00:31:05,489 --> 00:31:08,909 The movie was about 80% accurate and 20% bullshit... 610 00:31:08,950 --> 00:31:14,373 which I guess by Hollywood standards is an accomplishment. 611 00:31:14,664 --> 00:31:17,376 What inspired you to write the book? 612 00:31:17,376 --> 00:31:19,503 Being shot at by the North Vietnamese army. 613 00:31:19,503 --> 00:31:21,546 What was the biggest difference between experiencing... 614 00:31:21,588 --> 00:31:26,385 the Battle of la Drang in person versus watching it in a theater? 615 00:31:26,385 --> 00:31:29,471 The popcorn in la Drang was saltier. 616 00:31:30,305 --> 00:31:31,014 Last question. 617 00:31:31,014 --> 00:31:33,100 Can you draw any comparisons between Vietnam... 618 00:31:33,100 --> 00:31:35,519 and what's happening today in Afghanistan? 619 00:31:35,519 --> 00:31:38,605 It's very different, but I think it is appropriate... 620 00:31:38,605 --> 00:31:42,776 that before we start dropping bombs, we think long and hard... 621 00:31:42,776 --> 00:31:46,363 about the greatest lesson we got from Vietnam. 622 00:31:46,363 --> 00:31:47,072 Which is? 623 00:31:47,072 --> 00:31:51,868 When the government fucks up, the soldiers pay the price. 624 00:31:51,868 --> 00:31:54,830 To what do I owe this unexpected visit? 625 00:31:54,830 --> 00:31:57,165 Well, I was hoping I'd get an autograph... 626 00:31:57,165 --> 00:31:59,584 from the world's most famous war correspondent. 627 00:31:59,584 --> 00:32:03,547 I hate this part. Reporters are not supposed to be the story. 628 00:32:03,547 --> 00:32:07,426 Reporters are not supposed to be awarded the Bronze Star, either. 629 00:32:07,426 --> 00:32:09,678 How do you like the job at State? 630 00:32:09,678 --> 00:32:11,304 I love working for General Powell... 631 00:32:11,304 --> 00:32:13,265 and I hate working for Uncle Sam. 632 00:32:13,265 --> 00:32:14,766 You miss reporting? 633 00:32:14,766 --> 00:32:16,351 After 42 years, I thought... 634 00:32:16,351 --> 00:32:17,561 I should take some time away from it. 635 00:32:17,561 --> 00:32:21,231 So, I went to work at the State Department on September 10th... 636 00:32:21,231 --> 00:32:23,567 and the next day the biggest story of my life broke. 637 00:32:23,567 --> 00:32:26,069 I'd say there's a little bit of a tug. 638 00:32:26,069 --> 00:32:30,782 We're working on something important, that's why I'm here. 639 00:32:30,782 --> 00:32:32,826 To make me envious? 640 00:32:32,826 --> 00:32:34,703 To make you an offer. 641 00:32:34,703 --> 00:32:38,498 If he gets weapons of mass destruction, Jerry. 642 00:32:38,498 --> 00:32:40,459 What does that mean for the world? 643 00:32:40,459 --> 00:32:42,002 What does that mean for the Middle East? 644 00:32:42,002 --> 00:32:44,713 Can you turn it down? I'm trying to watch the news. 645 00:32:44,713 --> 00:32:47,257 Stop calling it that. 646 00:32:47,257 --> 00:32:49,176 Hey, son. 647 00:32:53,346 --> 00:32:56,099 Adam, what's the matter? 648 00:32:56,099 --> 00:32:59,352 I met with a recruiter. 649 00:33:02,439 --> 00:33:06,276 A lot of people are gonna die, Jerry. 650 00:33:09,404 --> 00:33:10,697 You know once you sign up... 651 00:33:10,697 --> 00:33:13,325 there's no changing your mind, right? 652 00:33:13,325 --> 00:33:13,825 I know. 653 00:33:13,825 --> 00:33:16,036 What do you know? You're just a kid. 654 00:33:16,036 --> 00:33:17,871 Whose country was attacked. 655 00:33:17,871 --> 00:33:20,749 Adam, I know you want to do what you think is right... 656 00:33:20,749 --> 00:33:22,667 but war is not a video game. 657 00:33:22,667 --> 00:33:24,920 You have no idea what you're getting into. 658 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,715 I know exactly what I'm getting into. 659 00:33:32,511 --> 00:33:33,678 Here. 660 00:33:33,678 --> 00:33:39,309 Show me where Afghanistan is on this map. 661 00:33:39,309 --> 00:33:40,602 Show me. 662 00:33:40,602 --> 00:33:42,604 They're gonna send you halfway around the world to fight... 663 00:33:42,604 --> 00:33:45,607 people you didn't even know existed a year ago. 664 00:33:45,607 --> 00:33:48,151 If you know what you're getting into... 665 00:33:48,151 --> 00:33:51,988 show me where Afghanistan is on this map. 666 00:33:51,988 --> 00:33:55,700 Did anyone ever shove a map in Dad's face... 667 00:33:55,700 --> 00:33:59,204 and ask him to find Vietnam? 668 00:34:04,167 --> 00:34:08,171 We now know that Saddam has resumed... 669 00:34:08,171 --> 00:34:10,257 his efforts to acquire nuclear weapons. 670 00:34:10,257 --> 00:34:13,843 Among other sources, we've gotten this from firsthand... 671 00:34:13,843 --> 00:34:15,011 testimony from defectors. 672 00:34:15,011 --> 00:34:17,847 Many of us are convinced that Saddam Hussein... 673 00:34:17,847 --> 00:34:20,350 will acquire nuclear weapons fairly soon. 674 00:34:20,350 --> 00:34:24,688 Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein... 675 00:34:24,688 --> 00:34:26,314 now has weapons of mass destruction. 676 00:34:26,314 --> 00:34:29,359 They're dialing up the rhetoric on Iraq. 677 00:34:29,359 --> 00:34:32,696 Let's see if we can nail them down, okay? 678 00:34:33,446 --> 00:34:36,533 Twenty bucks, whoever gets the best quote. 679 00:34:36,533 --> 00:34:39,578 No, no, no, you're such a child. 680 00:34:39,578 --> 00:34:40,662 You're such a pussy. 681 00:34:40,662 --> 00:34:41,705 I'm not taking your money. 682 00:34:41,705 --> 00:34:43,206 You get all bent out of shape when you lose. 683 00:34:43,206 --> 00:34:44,916 I don't care. I'm just the same when I win or lose. 684 00:34:44,916 --> 00:34:46,835 L'm not-- it's not a bet, all right, fine. 685 00:34:46,835 --> 00:34:49,337 Warren Strobel for Senator Biden, please. 686 00:34:49,337 --> 00:34:50,005 Son of a bitch. 687 00:34:50,005 --> 00:34:52,841 Biden told Bush, "There's a reason your father didn't go... 688 00:34:52,841 --> 00:34:54,634 "to Baghdad. He knew he would have to stay... 689 00:34:54,634 --> 00:34:55,594 "for at least five years." 690 00:34:55,594 --> 00:34:58,138 I got Michael O'Hanlon at Brookings saying... 691 00:34:58,138 --> 00:35:02,183 "You definitely cannot count on it being a cakewalk." 692 00:35:02,517 --> 00:35:04,185 We gotta hit it harder than that. 693 00:35:04,185 --> 00:35:06,563 All right, well, hang on. I got an official at the U.N... 694 00:35:06,563 --> 00:35:08,064 that says, "There's widespread concern... 695 00:35:08,064 --> 00:35:10,942 "that this will destabilize the whole Middle East." 696 00:35:10,942 --> 00:35:13,361 Let me see what you have. 697 00:35:13,361 --> 00:35:14,362 Well, wait, I got-- I got-- 698 00:35:14,362 --> 00:35:17,115 Just give it to me, give, give, give. 699 00:35:17,115 --> 00:35:18,241 Okay. 700 00:35:18,241 --> 00:35:19,826 All right. 701 00:35:19,826 --> 00:35:24,372 Let's see here... all right. 702 00:36:10,168 --> 00:36:12,003 You guys are smart. 703 00:36:12,003 --> 00:36:13,922 You know what's unfolding here. 704 00:36:13,922 --> 00:36:19,427 Our readers need to know what we've learned. 705 00:36:21,513 --> 00:36:25,016 "In the best case scenario, U.S. troops could be stuck in Iraq... 706 00:36:25,016 --> 00:36:28,269 "for years trying to teach the inner workings of democracy... 707 00:36:28,269 --> 00:36:32,107 "to a nation that has never known it. In the worst case... 708 00:36:32,107 --> 00:36:36,403 "scenario, an invasion could cause Iraq's fractious ethnic... 709 00:36:36,403 --> 00:36:39,197 "groups to break off into their own mini-states... 710 00:36:39,197 --> 00:36:42,325 "trapping American combat forces in the middle... 711 00:36:42,325 --> 00:36:46,121 "of a bloody civil war for decades." 712 00:36:47,914 --> 00:36:50,291 Boss man's got balls. 713 00:36:50,291 --> 00:36:52,794 Yeah. 714 00:37:17,736 --> 00:37:26,453 Shit. 715 00:37:26,453 --> 00:37:27,871 Were those for me? 716 00:37:27,871 --> 00:37:30,331 No. Yes. 717 00:37:30,331 --> 00:37:35,044 But I thought it might be a little, I don't know... 718 00:37:35,044 --> 00:37:37,672 a little too soon to be giving each other gifts. 719 00:37:37,672 --> 00:37:40,091 It would've been all right. 720 00:37:40,091 --> 00:37:40,633 Okay. 721 00:37:40,633 --> 00:37:42,886 Well, I think they landed on my car... 722 00:37:42,886 --> 00:37:45,680 so if you want to grab them on the way to dinner... 723 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,891 maybe we can do that? 724 00:37:47,891 --> 00:37:50,393 Great. Great. 725 00:37:52,103 --> 00:37:55,899 Okay, so what was the most embarrassing thing... 726 00:37:55,899 --> 00:37:58,234 you did to prepare for tonight? 727 00:38:00,653 --> 00:38:01,780 All right. 728 00:38:01,780 --> 00:38:04,240 I will admit, that to prepare for tonight... 729 00:38:04,240 --> 00:38:06,534 I did kind of a cram session on Iraq... 730 00:38:06,534 --> 00:38:10,330 and the history of the Muslim world. 731 00:38:10,330 --> 00:38:11,498 Really? 732 00:38:11,498 --> 00:38:11,998 Yes. 733 00:38:11,998 --> 00:38:14,626 Now I know that 1400 years ago, after the death of Muhammad... 734 00:38:14,626 --> 00:38:17,212 Muslims fought over who was to be his rightful heir... 735 00:38:17,212 --> 00:38:19,380 and that caused a split into two factions... 736 00:38:19,380 --> 00:38:20,381 the Sunnis and the Shiites. 737 00:38:20,381 --> 00:38:21,633 And they've been at war ever since. 738 00:38:21,633 --> 00:38:23,718 Then, at the end of World War I, the British and the French... 739 00:38:23,718 --> 00:38:27,013 arbitrarily divided the Arab world into countries... 740 00:38:27,013 --> 00:38:28,640 putting the Sunni majority in charge. 741 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:33,353 But the country that became Iraq is made up of only 20% Sunni. 742 00:38:33,353 --> 00:38:38,274 So, Saddam Hussein, a Sunni, with an iron fist rules... 743 00:38:38,274 --> 00:38:39,609 the majority Shiite population... 744 00:38:39,609 --> 00:38:42,862 and the 20% Kurdish population in northern Iraq. 745 00:38:42,862 --> 00:38:46,115 But if Saddam Hussein were removed, it could possibly... 746 00:38:46,115 --> 00:38:49,118 reignite that 1400-year-old sectarian war. 747 00:38:49,118 --> 00:38:50,662 Now, after reading your stories... 748 00:38:50,662 --> 00:38:54,249 I know that Iran is the top sponsor of terror, not Iraq. 749 00:38:54,249 --> 00:38:58,211 That a man named Ahmed Chalabi seems to be a con artist... 750 00:38:58,211 --> 00:38:59,963 who wants to replace Saddam Hussein. 751 00:38:59,963 --> 00:39:02,423 That the neo-cons in the Bush Administration... 752 00:39:02,423 --> 00:39:03,424 are pushing for an invasion. 753 00:39:03,424 --> 00:39:07,971 And you are quickly becoming my favorite writer. 754 00:39:07,971 --> 00:39:10,098 Wow. 755 00:39:13,226 --> 00:39:18,064 Um... I guess it's my turn. 756 00:39:18,064 --> 00:39:18,982 Give it to me. 757 00:39:18,982 --> 00:39:21,985 Okay, I will admit that-- 758 00:39:21,985 --> 00:39:24,988 This is a little embarrassing. 759 00:39:24,988 --> 00:39:30,660 I asked my ex-wife to watch my two sons tonight. 760 00:39:30,660 --> 00:39:31,828 Why is that embarrassing? 761 00:39:31,828 --> 00:39:34,247 Because a babysitter would expect me home... 762 00:39:34,247 --> 00:39:38,334 at the end of the evening and-- 763 00:39:38,334 --> 00:39:40,336 Should we get the check? 764 00:39:40,336 --> 00:39:44,048 Tell your boss we're gonna run it whether he comments or not! 765 00:39:44,048 --> 00:39:47,176 Actually yes, it is a matter of life and death! 766 00:39:47,176 --> 00:39:51,931 We're talking about going to fucking war! 767 00:39:51,931 --> 00:39:54,684 Hello? 768 00:39:54,851 --> 00:39:57,812 L'm guessing that was a no comment? 769 00:39:57,812 --> 00:40:00,315 What are you grinning about? 770 00:40:00,315 --> 00:40:01,357 What? I'm not grinning. 771 00:40:01,399 --> 00:40:04,068 You're grinning. I'm not grinning. 772 00:40:04,068 --> 00:40:05,904 L'm not-- What have you got over there? 773 00:40:05,904 --> 00:40:07,447 Relax! Don't worry about it. 774 00:40:07,447 --> 00:40:08,948 Oh my God, she could do my taxes. 775 00:40:08,948 --> 00:40:10,909 All right, relax. 776 00:40:10,909 --> 00:40:14,621 Strobel, Knight Ridder. Of course. 777 00:40:17,165 --> 00:40:18,791 Okay. 778 00:40:18,791 --> 00:40:21,085 All right, I'll be right there. 779 00:40:21,085 --> 00:40:24,130 Let's go, this could be something. 780 00:40:28,301 --> 00:40:29,594 So, how does this work? 781 00:40:29,594 --> 00:40:34,223 Do you ask me questions or do I just start talking? 782 00:40:34,390 --> 00:40:36,267 Why don't you just begin... 783 00:40:36,267 --> 00:40:37,894 and we'll ask the questions when we have them. 784 00:40:37,894 --> 00:40:40,480 If it's off the record, I have to say so, right? 785 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,732 Do you want it to be off the record? 786 00:40:42,732 --> 00:40:46,986 I want people to know what I know, but not who I am. 787 00:40:46,986 --> 00:40:48,112 It'll be background. 788 00:40:48,112 --> 00:40:52,075 You'll be referred to as a U.S. official. 789 00:40:57,747 --> 00:41:01,668 So, whatever you feel comfortable telling us. 790 00:41:03,628 --> 00:41:07,548 I believe your prediction about what could and will happen... 791 00:41:07,548 --> 00:41:09,550 if we go to war is spot on. 792 00:41:09,550 --> 00:41:13,012 And we're a lot closer than you think. 793 00:41:13,012 --> 00:41:13,763 How close? 794 00:41:13,763 --> 00:41:17,100 A secret war planning group with a parallel intelligence... 795 00:41:17,100 --> 00:41:19,769 operation has been set up to bypass... 796 00:41:19,769 --> 00:41:22,438 the rest of the intelligence community. 797 00:41:22,438 --> 00:41:23,314 How do you know this? 798 00:41:23,314 --> 00:41:26,275 They meet in the building where I work. 799 00:41:26,275 --> 00:41:28,277 And which building is that? 800 00:41:28,277 --> 00:41:32,532 The one with the five sides. 801 00:41:32,532 --> 00:41:34,575 But you're not a part of that unit? 802 00:41:34,575 --> 00:41:35,368 No. 803 00:41:35,368 --> 00:41:36,869 So, how do you know about this? 804 00:41:36,869 --> 00:41:39,247 My desk is across the hall. 805 00:41:39,247 --> 00:41:40,790 What office do you work for? 806 00:41:40,790 --> 00:41:46,254 Near East South Asia division, but you can't disclose that. 807 00:41:46,254 --> 00:41:47,588 You're an analyst? 808 00:41:47,588 --> 00:41:51,342 Yes... but you can't disclose that, either. 809 00:41:51,342 --> 00:41:53,886 L'm speaking to you because I'm an American citizen... 810 00:41:53,886 --> 00:41:56,431 and I don't like what these people are doing. 811 00:41:56,431 --> 00:42:00,101 Half a dozen men, most of whom have never served... 812 00:42:00,101 --> 00:42:01,978 in the military are making decisions... 813 00:42:01,978 --> 00:42:05,523 based on shoddy intelligence, and those decisions... 814 00:42:05,523 --> 00:42:07,775 will impact our men and women in uniform. 815 00:42:07,775 --> 00:42:14,949 And as someone who has worn that uniform, I can't remain silent. 816 00:42:14,949 --> 00:42:20,288 You said shoddy intelligence. What do you mean by that? 817 00:42:20,288 --> 00:42:23,750 They've designed a process that doesn't conform... 818 00:42:23,750 --> 00:42:27,754 to any basic tenet of intelligence gathering. 819 00:42:27,754 --> 00:42:28,463 In what way? 820 00:42:28,463 --> 00:42:30,798 A decision is made, then the intelligence... 821 00:42:30,798 --> 00:42:34,719 is sought to support that decision. 822 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:35,678 How do you know this? 823 00:42:35,678 --> 00:42:38,973 They have no interest in Arabic speakers. 824 00:42:38,973 --> 00:42:41,309 Israelis come in without passes“. 825 00:42:41,309 --> 00:42:44,479 Without even being entered into a security log. 826 00:42:44,479 --> 00:42:47,690 And for years the government has been funding a group... 827 00:42:47,690 --> 00:42:52,653 of exiled dissidents called the Iraqi National Congress. 828 00:42:52,653 --> 00:42:54,113 Led by Ahmad Chalabi, we know. 829 00:42:54,113 --> 00:42:57,033 Who they want to install as the new leader of Iraq. 830 00:42:57,033 --> 00:42:59,494 Yeah, we've been trying to get a meeting with him. 831 00:42:59,494 --> 00:43:03,081 Do you know who set up this operation? 832 00:43:06,334 --> 00:43:08,419 Donald Rumsfeld. 833 00:43:08,461 --> 00:43:10,505 Is there any evidence to indicate that Iraq... 834 00:43:10,546 --> 00:43:15,426 has attempted to or is willing to supply terrorists... 835 00:43:15,426 --> 00:43:16,969 with weapons of mass destruction? 836 00:43:16,969 --> 00:43:21,808 The reports that say that something hasn't happened... 837 00:43:21,808 --> 00:43:25,103 are always interesting to me because as we know... 838 00:43:25,103 --> 00:43:29,899 there are known knowns, there are things we know we know. 839 00:43:29,899 --> 00:43:31,984 We also know there are known unknowns. 840 00:43:31,984 --> 00:43:35,780 That is to say, we know there are some things we do not know. 841 00:43:35,780 --> 00:43:38,282 But there are also unknown unknowns. 842 00:43:38,282 --> 00:43:39,826 The one's we don't know we don't know. 843 00:43:39,826 --> 00:43:42,703 We're working on a theory that the administration... 844 00:43:42,703 --> 00:43:44,247 has already decided to go to war... 845 00:43:44,247 --> 00:43:46,707 and is now focused on how to justify it. 846 00:43:46,707 --> 00:43:47,792 It's not a theory. 847 00:43:47,792 --> 00:43:50,128 We've also been told by a number of individuals that... 848 00:43:50,128 --> 00:43:53,381 Rumsfeld's the one spearheading this intelligence gathering. 849 00:43:53,381 --> 00:43:55,925 I wouldn't exactly call it intelligence gathering. 850 00:43:55,925 --> 00:43:58,052 It's more like intelligence cherry picking. 851 00:43:58,052 --> 00:43:59,846 And if they don't find any cherries... 852 00:43:59,846 --> 00:44:01,097 they just grab a piece of shit... 853 00:44:01,097 --> 00:44:05,143 and they paint it red, and they stick it in a Shirley Temple. 854 00:44:05,143 --> 00:44:07,812 You seem irritated. 855 00:44:07,812 --> 00:44:10,606 L'm out there looking for weapons that might not exist... 856 00:44:10,606 --> 00:44:13,526 to justify a war that might not be wise. 857 00:44:13,526 --> 00:44:18,698 And have you found any evidence of WMD? 858 00:44:18,698 --> 00:44:19,615 No, sir. 859 00:44:19,615 --> 00:44:21,367 But Saddam is looking to acquire nukes, right? 860 00:44:21,367 --> 00:44:24,412 Yeah, and I'm trying to fuck Jennifer Lopez, but I have... 861 00:44:24,412 --> 00:44:26,831 a sinking feeling that neither of those things is gonna happen. 862 00:44:26,831 --> 00:44:32,628 So, we won't use your identity, but can we get a quote? 863 00:44:32,628 --> 00:44:33,212 Sure. 864 00:44:33,212 --> 00:44:35,423 Have you found anything to support the administration's... 865 00:44:35,423 --> 00:44:39,594 theory that Saddam is close to or has acquired nuclear weapons? 866 00:44:39,594 --> 00:44:40,845 We've searched every cave... 867 00:44:40,845 --> 00:44:43,181 and looked up every camel's ass in Iraq. 868 00:44:43,181 --> 00:44:49,395 So, here's your quote, "no fucking way." 869 00:44:50,104 --> 00:44:52,315 Might have to clean that up a bit. 870 00:44:52,315 --> 00:44:54,984 Quite colorful, though. 871 00:44:54,984 --> 00:44:56,485 Uh, honey, I think someone... 872 00:44:56,485 --> 00:44:58,237 is stealing our New York Times. 873 00:44:58,237 --> 00:44:59,655 I canceled it. 874 00:44:59,655 --> 00:45:01,574 Why would you do that? 875 00:45:01,574 --> 00:45:02,867 It's propaganda. 876 00:45:02,867 --> 00:45:03,659 I need that for my work. 877 00:45:03,659 --> 00:45:06,495 It's packaging press releases from the White House... 878 00:45:06,495 --> 00:45:08,664 the State Department, and the Pentagon. 879 00:45:08,664 --> 00:45:11,667 Sorry, that's not a real newspaper. 880 00:45:17,882 --> 00:45:19,759 How was your day? 881 00:45:19,759 --> 00:45:21,969 Warren and I met with some gentleman... 882 00:45:21,969 --> 00:45:24,597 from the intelligence community who confirmed that... 883 00:45:24,597 --> 00:45:26,515 there's no real evidence to support... 884 00:45:26,515 --> 00:45:30,978 the administration's claim on WMD. 885 00:45:32,647 --> 00:45:34,607 What have I been telling you? 886 00:45:34,607 --> 00:45:40,613 Well, unfortunately, I can't use your gut as a reliable source. 887 00:45:44,408 --> 00:45:47,411 You know, this is what they do. They lie. 888 00:45:47,411 --> 00:45:51,540 Yeah, and we try to hold them accountable. 889 00:45:53,501 --> 00:45:55,795 I hope I'm wrong. I really, really do. 890 00:45:55,795 --> 00:45:59,340 But the Bush Administration, they don't care about the truth. 891 00:45:59,340 --> 00:46:01,884 They don't even respond to your articles. 892 00:46:01,884 --> 00:46:04,762 If they want a war, they're gonna get one. 893 00:46:04,762 --> 00:46:08,140 And there's nothing that you or the first amendment... 894 00:46:08,140 --> 00:46:10,559 is gonna do to stop them. 895 00:46:23,531 --> 00:46:26,284 Extra, extra, read all about it. 896 00:46:30,871 --> 00:46:34,834 "Over the past 14 months, Iraq has tried to buy thousands... 897 00:46:34,834 --> 00:46:38,337 "of specially design aluminum tubes, which American... 898 00:46:38,337 --> 00:46:40,464 "officials believe were intended as components... 899 00:46:40,464 --> 00:46:44,635 "of centrifuges to enrich uranium." 900 00:46:44,635 --> 00:46:46,637 Well, one thing's for sure. 901 00:46:46,637 --> 00:46:48,055 What's that? 902 00:46:48,055 --> 00:46:51,183 We can't both be right. 903 00:46:54,061 --> 00:46:55,438 Who're you calling? 904 00:46:55,438 --> 00:46:56,314 Loose Nukes. 905 00:46:56,314 --> 00:46:58,107 If she wouldn't talk to you about going into Iraq... 906 00:46:58,107 --> 00:47:00,901 what makes you think she's gonna go on the record on WMD? 907 00:47:00,901 --> 00:47:05,156 Charm Offensive. Watch and learn, son. 908 00:47:08,743 --> 00:47:10,828 Landay. 909 00:47:12,496 --> 00:47:15,291 It's Joe Galloway. Wow. 910 00:47:15,291 --> 00:47:17,585 Man even walks like he has a Bronze Star. 911 00:47:17,585 --> 00:47:19,003 LOOSE NUKES Hello. 912 00:47:19,003 --> 00:47:21,672 Oh, hi, yeah, it's Landay. 913 00:47:21,672 --> 00:47:22,590 Hello, Jonathan. 914 00:47:22,590 --> 00:47:27,970 Hi. Crazy weather we're having, huh? 915 00:47:27,970 --> 00:47:30,139 You're calling me to chat about the weather? 916 00:47:30,139 --> 00:47:35,102 No, no, yeah. Actually, I wanted to ask you about WMD. 917 00:47:35,102 --> 00:47:37,063 It'll be deep, deep background. 918 00:47:37,063 --> 00:47:38,564 Goodbye, Jonathan. 919 00:47:38,564 --> 00:47:40,983 No wait, don't hang up. 920 00:47:40,983 --> 00:47:45,363 That Charm Offensive... that's formidable. 921 00:47:45,363 --> 00:47:48,824 Listen, we need you here. 922 00:47:48,824 --> 00:47:51,994 You've developed sources over the years that have access... 923 00:47:51,994 --> 00:47:55,289 that Landay and Strobel just can't get. 924 00:47:55,289 --> 00:47:56,832 L'll make it easy on you. 925 00:47:56,832 --> 00:47:57,875 L'll give you a column... 926 00:47:57,875 --> 00:48:02,129 and your name doesn't have to appear on anything else. 927 00:48:02,129 --> 00:48:04,882 Whatever else you want to write on the side, you can... 928 00:48:04,882 --> 00:48:07,843 and of course, there won't be any glory, but-- 929 00:48:07,843 --> 00:48:10,888 Glory's for young men. 930 00:48:12,723 --> 00:48:14,350 Let me percolate on it. 931 00:48:14,350 --> 00:48:16,769 Let me turn to the issue of Iraq. 932 00:48:16,769 --> 00:48:19,563 You have said that it poses... 933 00:48:19,563 --> 00:48:22,066 a mortal threat to the United States. 934 00:48:22,066 --> 00:48:24,568 How? Define "mortal threat." 935 00:48:24,568 --> 00:48:30,324 Well, this'll take some time, but it's important for us... 936 00:48:30,324 --> 00:48:31,450 as I mentioned earlier... 937 00:48:31,450 --> 00:48:34,912 to remember that the world has changed, that prior to-- 938 00:48:34,912 --> 00:48:36,539 I'd forgotten the world had changed. 939 00:48:36,539 --> 00:48:38,249 So did I. I'm so happy he mentioned that. 940 00:48:38,249 --> 00:48:41,961 What, specifically, has he obtained that you believe... 941 00:48:41,961 --> 00:48:44,672 would enhance his nuclear development program? 942 00:48:44,672 --> 00:48:46,715 Well, in the nuclear weapons arena... 943 00:48:46,715 --> 00:48:49,218 you've got specifically aluminum tubes. 944 00:48:49,218 --> 00:48:51,178 There's a story in The New York Times this morning... 945 00:48:51,178 --> 00:48:54,181 this is and I want to attribute to The Times. 946 00:48:54,181 --> 00:48:55,891 I don't want to talk about, obviously... 947 00:48:55,891 --> 00:48:59,186 specific intelligence sources, but it's now public that... 948 00:48:59,228 --> 00:49:04,191 in fact he has been seeking to acquire, and we have been... 949 00:49:04,233 --> 00:49:07,445 able to intercept and prevent him from acquiring... 950 00:49:07,445 --> 00:49:08,779 through this particular channel“... 951 00:49:08,821 --> 00:49:11,574 the kinds of tubes that are necessary... 952 00:49:11,615 --> 00:49:12,491 to build a centrifuge. 953 00:49:12,533 --> 00:49:15,619 And the centrifuge is required to take low-grade uranium... 954 00:49:15,661 --> 00:49:19,206 and enhance it into highly enriched uranium... 955 00:49:19,206 --> 00:49:22,001 which is what you have to have in order to build a bomb. 956 00:49:22,001 --> 00:49:24,670 Lucky for him, someone leaked that to The Times. 957 00:49:24,670 --> 00:49:28,174 Avoids the pesky nuisance of being arrested... 958 00:49:28,174 --> 00:49:29,383 for revealing classified information. 959 00:49:29,383 --> 00:49:32,303 One can only wonder how Judy Miller and Michael Gordon... 960 00:49:32,303 --> 00:49:33,220 got that information. 961 00:49:33,220 --> 00:49:36,182 Does it bother you, bug you... 962 00:49:36,182 --> 00:49:39,310 that you have not captured Osama bin Laden in over a year? 963 00:49:39,310 --> 00:49:46,358 I'd like to see him on television in handcuffs... 964 00:49:46,358 --> 00:49:48,777 if I can put it into those terms. 965 00:49:48,777 --> 00:49:50,070 I think all of us would. 966 00:49:50,070 --> 00:49:53,365 But I don't lay awake at night concerned about that. 967 00:49:53,365 --> 00:49:56,118 There's one school of thought that says he's already dead. 968 00:49:56,118 --> 00:49:58,287 We haven't heard anything of him in many months. 969 00:49:58,287 --> 00:49:59,413 What do you think? 970 00:49:59,413 --> 00:50:00,831 I don't know, I really don't know. 971 00:50:00,831 --> 00:50:02,124 I can argue it round or flat. 972 00:50:02,124 --> 00:50:05,252 I didn't know we were still debating the shape of the earth. 973 00:50:05,252 --> 00:50:08,172 L've got sources on both sides. 974 00:50:08,756 --> 00:50:11,967 But the U.S. military would be enormously effective... 975 00:50:11,967 --> 00:50:12,968 in this circumstance. 976 00:50:12,968 --> 00:50:16,055 And I don't think it would be that tough a fight. 977 00:50:16,055 --> 00:50:17,806 That is, I don't think there's any question... 978 00:50:17,806 --> 00:50:20,851 that we would prevail and we would achieve our objective. 979 00:50:20,851 --> 00:50:23,395 Landay. 980 00:50:23,395 --> 00:50:25,481 Yeah? 981 00:50:25,481 --> 00:50:28,776 We are right, aren't we? 982 00:50:30,319 --> 00:50:32,988 Everybody, listen up. 983 00:50:36,325 --> 00:50:38,994 We're not NBC. 984 00:50:39,203 --> 00:50:41,288 We're not ABC. We're not CBS. 985 00:50:41,288 --> 00:50:45,417 We're not FOX. We're not CNN. 986 00:50:45,584 --> 00:50:47,670 We're not The New York Times. 987 00:50:47,670 --> 00:50:50,673 We're not The Washington Post. 988 00:50:51,799 --> 00:50:54,510 We are Knight Ridder. 989 00:50:57,096 --> 00:51:03,435 We have readers who live in towns with military bases. 990 00:51:03,435 --> 00:51:06,939 Fort Benning, Fort Bragg, Fort Jackson... 991 00:51:06,939 --> 00:51:13,320 and over 40 other military bases throughout this country. 992 00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:18,325 If every other news organization wants to be stenographers... 993 00:51:18,325 --> 00:51:22,621 for the Bush administration, let them. 994 00:51:23,247 --> 00:51:28,794 We don't write for people who send other people's kids to war. 995 00:51:29,461 --> 00:51:35,217 We write for people whose kids get sent to war. 996 00:51:36,885 --> 00:51:39,221 So, when the government says something... 997 00:51:39,221 --> 00:51:43,017 you only have one question to ask. 998 00:51:45,811 --> 00:51:48,314 Is it true? 999 00:51:53,694 --> 00:51:56,447 L'm through percolating. 1000 00:51:58,782 --> 00:51:59,867 Let's get to work. 1001 00:51:59,867 --> 00:52:02,703 Administration officials spanned out on the Sunday talk shows... 1002 00:52:02,703 --> 00:52:04,663 to make the case for an invasion of Iraq. 1003 00:52:04,663 --> 00:52:08,208 Who else is involved in The Office of Special Planning? 1004 00:52:08,208 --> 00:52:11,170 Wolfowitz, Feith, couple others. 1005 00:52:11,170 --> 00:52:13,547 Instead of listening to people who have spent their careers... 1006 00:52:13,547 --> 00:52:17,676 evaluating threats, they're streaming questionable intel... 1007 00:52:17,676 --> 00:52:19,970 from unreliable sources and taking it... 1008 00:52:19,970 --> 00:52:21,055 directly to the White House. 1009 00:52:21,055 --> 00:52:23,307 George Tenet, Director of Central Intelligence... 1010 00:52:23,307 --> 00:52:26,226 told Senators, he could not rule out cooperation... 1011 00:52:26,226 --> 00:52:28,729 between Osama bin Laden and AI Qaeda. 1012 00:52:30,064 --> 00:52:32,191 I've seen the specs on those aluminum tubes. 1013 00:52:32,191 --> 00:52:35,027 They're too small to be used for enriching uranium. 1014 00:52:35,027 --> 00:52:35,861 What does that mean? 1015 00:52:35,861 --> 00:52:37,446 They can't be used for a nuclear bomb. 1016 00:52:37,446 --> 00:52:39,198 The President of the United States... 1017 00:52:39,198 --> 00:52:41,241 said we're not going to permit nations to develop... 1018 00:52:41,241 --> 00:52:42,368 weapons of mass destruction... 1019 00:52:42,368 --> 00:52:44,495 as they're gonna supply those weapons to a network... 1020 00:52:44,495 --> 00:52:46,372 of terrorism that could attack the United States. 1021 00:52:46,372 --> 00:52:49,083 Cheney is trying to shut out Powell. 1022 00:52:49,083 --> 00:52:50,959 Where'd you get this stuff? 1023 00:52:50,959 --> 00:52:51,710 Old friend. 1024 00:52:51,710 --> 00:52:53,796 We're starting to see a consensus from within... 1025 00:52:53,796 --> 00:52:55,881 the administration for the removal of Saddam Hussein. 1026 00:52:55,881 --> 00:52:57,633 The administration has pointed... 1027 00:52:57,633 --> 00:53:00,594 to a secret meeting in Prague between Iraqi intelligence... 1028 00:53:00,594 --> 00:53:02,012 and 9/11 hijacker, Mohamed Atta. 1029 00:53:02,012 --> 00:53:04,181 Bush administration is pressing the United Nations... 1030 00:53:04,181 --> 00:53:06,767 Security Council for a resolution... 1031 00:53:06,767 --> 00:53:07,810 to put pressure on Iraq. 1032 00:53:07,810 --> 00:53:09,728 President Bush will address the United Nations today... 1033 00:53:09,728 --> 00:53:13,023 in hopes of putting together a multi-national coalition... 1034 00:53:13,023 --> 00:53:14,108 to disarm Saddam Hussein. 1035 00:53:14,108 --> 00:53:16,944 The White House is lobbying Congress to authorize... 1036 00:53:16,944 --> 00:53:18,445 the use of force in Iraq. 1037 00:53:18,445 --> 00:53:21,156 The minute these guys get their hands on anything... 1038 00:53:21,156 --> 00:53:22,408 remotely resembling evidence... 1039 00:53:22,408 --> 00:53:24,118 they leak it to The New York Times. 1040 00:53:24,118 --> 00:53:26,078 Now, I understand the position you're in... 1041 00:53:26,078 --> 00:53:28,789 but please don't hang up on me. 1042 00:53:28,789 --> 00:53:29,873 Okay. 1043 00:53:29,873 --> 00:53:33,293 Okay, the vice president of the United States... 1044 00:53:33,293 --> 00:53:36,672 went to the V.F.W. and said that Saddam Hussein... 1045 00:53:36,672 --> 00:53:40,050 is on the threshold of developing a nuclear weapon. 1046 00:53:40,050 --> 00:53:42,886 Then he goes on national television... 1047 00:53:42,886 --> 00:53:44,388 and says the same thing. 1048 00:53:44,388 --> 00:53:47,599 Your question? 1049 00:53:47,599 --> 00:53:50,060 Ask the question. 1050 00:53:50,060 --> 00:53:53,063 What I want to know is, is Dick Cheney ignoring... 1051 00:53:53,063 --> 00:53:56,024 good intelligence that contradicts his assumptions... 1052 00:53:56,024 --> 00:54:00,362 or is he just getting bad intelligence? 1053 00:54:00,362 --> 00:54:04,783 The vice president is lying. 1054 00:54:06,118 --> 00:54:07,703 Thank you, thank you so much. 1055 00:54:07,703 --> 00:54:10,622 What? What, what, what? What'd she say? 1056 00:54:10,622 --> 00:54:11,790 He's lying. 1057 00:54:11,790 --> 00:54:13,792 He's lying. Cheney is lying. 1058 00:54:13,792 --> 00:54:15,919 Cheney's lying! Cheney's lying! 1059 00:54:15,919 --> 00:54:19,131 He's lying! John! He's lying! 1060 00:54:19,131 --> 00:54:20,966 John! 1061 00:54:20,966 --> 00:54:22,301 Where the hell is he? 1062 00:54:22,301 --> 00:54:23,469 Here we go. Here we go. 1063 00:54:23,469 --> 00:54:25,846 He's lying- He's lying- 1064 00:54:25,846 --> 00:54:27,639 Cheney's lying- 1065 00:54:27,639 --> 00:54:29,475 Where did this come from? 1066 00:54:29,475 --> 00:54:31,143 Loose Nukes. 1067 00:54:31,143 --> 00:54:31,685 Okay. 1068 00:54:31,685 --> 00:54:34,188 Now, we know what's being talk about, we got to get inside... 1069 00:54:34,188 --> 00:54:38,275 those meetings and find out if there's a dissenting opinion. 1070 00:54:38,275 --> 00:54:40,110 I may have a guy. 1071 00:54:40,110 --> 00:54:41,570 Anybody we know? 1072 00:54:41,570 --> 00:54:43,739 The Usual Suspect. 1073 00:54:53,540 --> 00:54:55,626 You didn't want to do this in a parking garage? 1074 00:54:55,667 --> 00:54:58,712 If there was one that served Pad Thai, I would. 1075 00:54:58,712 --> 00:55:00,798 How's civilian life? 1076 00:55:00,798 --> 00:55:03,675 My retirement lasted about four hours. 1077 00:55:03,675 --> 00:55:04,676 You're with Knight Ridder? 1078 00:55:04,718 --> 00:55:08,055 I don't even have a desk yet. How the hell do you know that? 1079 00:55:08,096 --> 00:55:08,764 I have my ways. 1080 00:55:08,764 --> 00:55:11,600 You been following what we're doing over there? 1081 00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:12,976 Yes, I have. 1082 00:55:13,018 --> 00:55:13,519 And? 1083 00:55:13,519 --> 00:55:15,354 You two may be singlehandedly saving... 1084 00:55:15,354 --> 00:55:17,898 the Fourth Estate from extinction. 1085 00:55:17,898 --> 00:55:21,151 Mainstream media hasn't picked up a thing we been running. 1086 00:55:21,151 --> 00:55:23,070 Should be all the confirmation you need... 1087 00:55:23,070 --> 00:55:25,280 that you're onto something. 1088 00:55:27,533 --> 00:55:29,618 What can I do for you? 1089 00:55:29,618 --> 00:55:32,371 We need some help with the higher ups. 1090 00:55:32,371 --> 00:55:33,163 How high? 1091 00:55:33,163 --> 00:55:34,414 High as you can get us. 1092 00:55:34,414 --> 00:55:35,749 You've been around a long time, Joe. 1093 00:55:35,749 --> 00:55:38,293 I doubt there's anything there that'll surprise you. 1094 00:55:38,293 --> 00:55:40,087 I was married one time to a woman who thought... 1095 00:55:40,087 --> 00:55:42,172 New Hampshire was the capital of Massachusetts. 1096 00:55:42,172 --> 00:55:45,843 There's always something you don't see coming. 1097 00:55:45,843 --> 00:55:48,512 What do you want to know? 1098 00:55:48,512 --> 00:55:51,932 Everything the administration doesn't want us to know. 1099 00:55:51,932 --> 00:55:56,520 You and I are going to be eating a lot of Pad Thai. 1100 00:56:00,482 --> 00:56:02,442 What kind of time frame are we looking at? 1101 00:56:02,442 --> 00:56:03,819 Next month, Congress is scheduled to vote... 1102 00:56:03,819 --> 00:56:05,571 on whether or not to give the president... 1103 00:56:05,571 --> 00:56:07,322 the authorization to go to war. 1104 00:56:07,322 --> 00:56:08,198 Are the votes there? 1105 00:56:08,198 --> 00:56:09,324 The administration thinks so. 1106 00:56:09,324 --> 00:56:15,247 Mr. President, 38 years ago, I, Robert C. Byrd... 1107 00:56:15,247 --> 00:56:18,208 voted on the Tonkin Gulf Resolution. 1108 00:56:18,208 --> 00:56:22,546 The resolution that authorized the president to use military... 1109 00:56:22,546 --> 00:56:23,881 force to repel armed attacks... 1110 00:56:23,881 --> 00:56:28,135 and to prevent further communist aggression in Southeast Asia. 1111 00:56:28,135 --> 00:56:32,055 A joint resolution to authorize the use of United States... 1112 00:56:32,055 --> 00:56:35,893 armed forces against Iraq should be brought to a close. 1113 00:56:35,893 --> 00:56:38,353 The clerk will call the roll. 1114 00:56:38,353 --> 00:56:40,647 Mr. Biden, aye. 1115 00:56:40,647 --> 00:56:41,899 Mrs. Clinton, aye. 1116 00:56:41,899 --> 00:56:44,484 It was this resolution that provided the basis... 1117 00:56:44,484 --> 00:56:48,989 for American involvement in the war in Vietnam. 1118 00:56:48,989 --> 00:56:51,283 Mr. Kerry, aye. 1119 00:56:51,283 --> 00:56:53,702 Mr. Lieberman, aye. 1120 00:56:53,702 --> 00:56:55,370 Mr. Lott, aye. 1121 00:56:55,370 --> 00:56:56,914 It was this resolution... 1122 00:56:56,914 --> 00:57:02,502 that lead to the deaths of 58,000 Americans. 1123 00:57:02,502 --> 00:57:04,838 Mr. McCain, aye. 1124 00:57:04,838 --> 00:57:06,131 Mr. McConnell, aye. 1125 00:57:06,131 --> 00:57:11,637 After all that carnage, we began to learn that in voting... 1126 00:57:11,637 --> 00:57:13,680 for the Tonkin Gulf resolution... 1127 00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:17,184 we were basing our votes on bad information. 1128 00:57:17,184 --> 00:57:19,686 And history is repeating itself. 1129 00:57:19,686 --> 00:57:21,104 Mr. Santorum, aye. 1130 00:57:21,104 --> 00:57:24,775 I urge senators to go down on the Capital Mall... 1131 00:57:24,775 --> 00:57:26,944 and look at the Vietnam Memorial. 1132 00:57:26,944 --> 00:57:30,781 Nearly every day, you will find someone at that wall... 1133 00:57:30,781 --> 00:57:32,908 weeping for a loved one. 1134 00:57:32,908 --> 00:57:34,284 Mr. Sessions, aye. 1135 00:57:34,284 --> 00:57:37,663 I will always remember the words of Senator Wayne Morse. 1136 00:57:37,663 --> 00:57:39,331 Mr. Specter, aye. 1137 00:57:39,331 --> 00:57:41,792 He stated, "The resolution will pass and senators... 1138 00:57:41,792 --> 00:57:45,003 "who vote for it will live to regret it." 1139 00:57:45,003 --> 00:57:47,965 We got K-10, we got Dixie, we don't need another source. 1140 00:57:47,965 --> 00:57:48,840 You know we got this. 1141 00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:51,176 Look, when you're accusing the secretary of defense... 1142 00:57:51,176 --> 00:57:52,594 of running a shadow intelligence unit... 1143 00:57:52,594 --> 00:57:55,806 out of the Pentagon, it's nice to have a little insurance. 1144 00:57:55,806 --> 00:57:58,308 That's all I'm saying. 1145 00:58:00,519 --> 00:58:03,855 All right, let's share it with the rest of the class. 1146 00:58:03,855 --> 00:58:04,898 You want to tell them? 1147 00:58:04,898 --> 00:58:09,403 Earlier today, I was summoned to the Pentagon. 1148 00:58:09,403 --> 00:58:09,903 By Whom? 1149 00:58:09,903 --> 00:58:13,031 Rumsfeld, OI' Limp Dick sent a message saying... 1150 00:58:13,031 --> 00:58:14,908 "All your sources are retired generals." 1151 00:58:14,908 --> 00:58:16,702 And I said, "All due respect, sir... 1152 00:58:16,702 --> 00:58:19,496 "80% of my sources are active military." 1153 00:58:19,496 --> 00:58:21,123 "Some of them are working in this building... 1154 00:58:21,123 --> 00:58:23,291 "and some of them are actually working on your staff." 1155 00:58:23,291 --> 00:58:26,586 "And hell, one or two of them might even be in this room." 1156 00:58:26,586 --> 00:58:28,588 Did you actually have sources in the room? 1157 00:58:28,588 --> 00:58:33,260 No, but it was fun watching him sweat like whores in church. 1158 00:58:34,344 --> 00:58:36,972 How close are we to getting something we can run with 1159 00:58:36,972 --> 00:58:38,640 on the Office of Special Plans? 1160 00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:39,516 Well, we already got-- 1161 00:58:39,516 --> 00:58:42,352 No, we're just gonna check with a couple more sources. 1162 00:58:42,352 --> 00:58:44,771 What's wrong with the sources you have? 1163 00:58:44,771 --> 00:58:46,732 Well, we just want to be certain. 1164 00:58:46,732 --> 00:58:50,152 You know, you sit on a story like this, the dam bursts. 1165 00:58:50,152 --> 00:58:53,155 Let's just move on this, okay, boys? 1166 00:58:56,158 --> 00:58:57,534 When are you gonna be finished? 1167 00:58:57,534 --> 00:59:02,456 Just a few more minutes, baby. 1168 00:59:03,707 --> 00:59:08,045 I can't sleep with the computer light on. 1169 00:59:08,045 --> 00:59:11,423 Actually, I'm done. 1170 00:59:14,885 --> 00:59:17,637 So, what are you working on? 1171 00:59:17,637 --> 00:59:20,515 Rumsfeld has a secret Intel group that's going... 1172 00:59:20,515 --> 00:59:26,938 around the CIA to manufacture a case for war. 1173 00:59:30,734 --> 00:59:33,236 What the fuck, Jonathan? 1174 00:59:33,236 --> 00:59:34,029 What? 1175 00:59:34,029 --> 00:59:37,240 Have you been talking about this on the phone? 1176 00:59:38,950 --> 00:59:40,327 Yeah, of course. 1177 00:59:40,327 --> 00:59:42,704 So, what? 1178 00:59:44,414 --> 00:59:47,918 They will hear you. Vlatka. 1179 00:59:47,918 --> 00:59:51,505 You're writing about infighting between spy agencies. 1180 00:59:51,505 --> 00:59:52,047 So? 1181 00:59:52,047 --> 00:59:54,091 They're spy agencies, Jonathan. 1182 00:59:54,091 --> 00:59:57,219 They listen to your calls, they read your emails. 1183 00:59:57,219 --> 00:59:59,262 They probably bugged this house. 1184 00:59:59,262 --> 01:00:01,264 You're being paranoid. 1185 01:00:01,264 --> 01:00:02,182 You're being naive. 1186 01:00:02,182 --> 01:00:06,061 This isn't Yugoslavia, this is America. 1187 01:00:06,061 --> 01:00:08,230 America has changed. 1188 01:00:08,230 --> 01:00:09,272 War is big business for them. 1189 01:00:09,272 --> 01:00:11,858 You get in their way, they're gonna kill you. 1190 01:00:11,858 --> 01:00:17,114 Honey, you are being ridiculous. All right? Come on. 1191 01:00:17,114 --> 01:00:19,950 Don't you get it? 1192 01:00:19,950 --> 01:00:23,328 You know what these people are capable of? 1193 01:00:23,328 --> 01:00:26,206 You have a family! 1194 01:00:26,206 --> 01:00:30,293 Vlatka. Vlatka! 1195 01:00:33,421 --> 01:00:38,593 Oh, somebody's struggling. What's the matter? 1196 01:00:38,593 --> 01:00:42,305 Oh, Vlatka kept me up all night. 1197 01:00:42,305 --> 01:00:42,931 All right! 1198 01:00:42,931 --> 01:00:47,686 No, not that like that. It was conspiracy theories. 1199 01:00:47,686 --> 01:00:48,353 About what? 1200 01:00:48,353 --> 01:00:52,232 Oh... she thinks the government is monitoring us. 1201 01:00:52,232 --> 01:00:56,319 I mean, it's ridiculous. 1202 01:00:57,821 --> 01:00:59,906 Check your email. 1203 01:01:11,209 --> 01:01:13,211 John, you got to see this. 1204 01:01:13,211 --> 01:01:14,462 Oh, hold on a second. 1205 01:01:14,462 --> 01:01:19,509 Arthur, I really don't want to have this conversation again. 1206 01:01:20,969 --> 01:01:24,973 He hung up. What is it? 1207 01:01:31,646 --> 01:01:33,648 What do we do? 1208 01:01:51,082 --> 01:01:53,335 You're such a wuss. You're a wuss. 1209 01:01:53,335 --> 01:01:54,669 You're a much bigger wuss. 1210 01:01:54,669 --> 01:01:56,880 Shut up, will you stop it, you're being a child. 1211 01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:58,215 You're being a-- Shut up! 1212 01:01:58,215 --> 01:02:01,218 Today's UN Security Council resolution 1213 01:02:01,218 --> 01:02:05,180 can be boiled down to four words, the clock is ticking. 1214 01:02:05,180 --> 01:02:09,434 Iraq's only alternative to full compliance, President Bush... 1215 01:02:09,434 --> 01:02:12,354 made clear today, is of military confrontation. 1216 01:02:12,354 --> 01:02:16,274 The full disarmament of weapons of mass destruction... 1217 01:02:16,274 --> 01:02:17,317 by Iraq will occur. 1218 01:02:17,317 --> 01:02:24,491 The only question for the Iraqi regime is to decide how. 1219 01:02:35,710 --> 01:02:37,212 Son of a bitch. 1220 01:02:37,212 --> 01:02:37,837 They beat us. 1221 01:02:37,837 --> 01:02:40,257 But they missed the whole point of why the unit was set up. 1222 01:02:40,257 --> 01:02:42,425 It doesn't matter, they got the scoop. 1223 01:02:42,425 --> 01:02:43,051 With What? 1224 01:02:43,051 --> 01:02:45,095 There's nothing about cherry picking intelligence. 1225 01:02:45,095 --> 01:02:47,973 There's nothing about bypassing other agencies. 1226 01:02:47,973 --> 01:02:49,057 We can still run ours. 1227 01:02:49,057 --> 01:02:50,350 John, no one's gonna pay attention... 1228 01:02:50,350 --> 01:02:53,853 to a second story explaining all that. 1229 01:02:53,853 --> 01:02:54,729 We had it. 1230 01:02:54,729 --> 01:02:57,107 Goddamn it, Walcott's gonna be pissed. 1231 01:02:57,107 --> 01:03:00,318 Maybe he hadn't seen it yet. 1232 01:03:12,372 --> 01:03:15,458 How is it possible he hasn't talked to us all day? 1233 01:03:15,458 --> 01:03:19,337 He's giving us the silent treatment. 1234 01:03:21,631 --> 01:03:23,758 Oh, shit, here he comes. 1235 01:03:23,758 --> 01:03:26,553 Oh, Jesus. 1236 01:03:31,182 --> 01:03:33,852 You had the story. 1237 01:03:34,144 --> 01:03:37,564 Don't ever forget how it feels to get beat. 1238 01:03:40,692 --> 01:03:42,986 The only information Congress is getting... 1239 01:03:42,986 --> 01:03:45,071 is coming directly from the administration. 1240 01:03:45,071 --> 01:03:47,907 Iraq is a huge country about the size of France... 1241 01:03:47,907 --> 01:03:50,118 if they want to hide their weapons of mass destruction... 1242 01:03:50,118 --> 01:03:51,619 they're going to be able to do so. 1243 01:03:51,619 --> 01:03:54,331 They're not going to rethink their positions... 1244 01:03:54,331 --> 01:03:56,458 unless they are provided with independent intel. 1245 01:03:56,458 --> 01:03:59,544 No one who's supported the authorization for war... 1246 01:03:59,544 --> 01:04:03,048 in Congress, in Iraq, not the president... 1247 01:04:03,048 --> 01:04:06,885 I am sure would go to war just because he wants to go to war. 1248 01:04:06,885 --> 01:04:10,388 Rumsfeld's been trying to sell this idea that an Iraqi... 1249 01:04:10,388 --> 01:04:15,643 intelligence officer offered bin Laden safe haven in '99. 1250 01:04:15,643 --> 01:04:16,186 Yeah. 1251 01:04:16,186 --> 01:04:18,438 Well, if that offer actually had happened... 1252 01:04:18,438 --> 01:04:21,816 bin Laden would have told Saddam to go fuck himself. 1253 01:04:21,816 --> 01:04:23,485 What do you make of the statement made... 1254 01:04:23,485 --> 01:04:26,196 by the Iraqi government that Iraq has no weapons... 1255 01:04:26,196 --> 01:04:29,240 of mass destruction and is not developing? 1256 01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:31,659 They're lying. 1257 01:04:33,036 --> 01:04:34,204 Next. 1258 01:04:34,204 --> 01:04:35,288 Your daughter is lovely. 1259 01:04:35,288 --> 01:04:37,248 Well, I wish I could take credit. 1260 01:04:37,248 --> 01:04:38,708 She gets it from her mother. 1261 01:04:38,708 --> 01:04:39,876 Dad, can I get you anything? 1262 01:04:39,876 --> 01:04:41,836 Oh, no, thanks, sweetie. Mr. Strobel? 1263 01:04:41,836 --> 01:04:44,547 I'm fine. All right. 1264 01:04:47,092 --> 01:04:47,884 Just real casual. 1265 01:04:47,884 --> 01:04:50,595 Tom and I were just talking about your latest article. 1266 01:04:50,595 --> 01:04:51,221 Oh, yeah? 1267 01:04:51,221 --> 01:04:52,722 Seems like you don't trust politicians. 1268 01:04:52,722 --> 01:04:56,017 Well, that's a pretty solid rule of journalism. 1269 01:04:56,017 --> 01:04:58,228 Even when they're talking about war? 1270 01:04:58,228 --> 01:05:00,438 Especially when they're talking about war. 1271 01:05:00,438 --> 01:05:02,941 You really believe there's no WMD? 1272 01:05:02,941 --> 01:05:04,567 Our names are on the article. 1273 01:05:04,567 --> 01:05:06,778 They don't say that there's no WMD. 1274 01:05:06,778 --> 01:05:08,321 They just said that the administration... 1275 01:05:08,321 --> 01:05:09,447 hasn't offered any proof of WMD. 1276 01:05:09,447 --> 01:05:12,325 And you don't think they'll find any? 1277 01:05:12,325 --> 01:05:15,120 No, I don't. 1278 01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:16,454 You don't know that. 1279 01:05:16,454 --> 01:05:17,247 No, we don't. 1280 01:05:17,247 --> 01:05:19,749 But before we send our kids to their possible deaths... 1281 01:05:19,749 --> 01:05:21,209 don't you think the administration... 1282 01:05:21,209 --> 01:05:23,169 has an obligation to provide proof of their rationale? 1283 01:05:23,169 --> 01:05:26,423 What if that proof comes in the form of a mushroom cloud? 1284 01:05:26,423 --> 01:05:29,467 Okay, you've been watching Fox News again? 1285 01:05:29,467 --> 01:05:32,679 Rice, Cheney, and President Bush have all said the same thing. 1286 01:05:32,679 --> 01:05:34,347 Oh, well, then it must be true. 1287 01:05:34,347 --> 01:05:36,307 You kids are too young to remember... 1288 01:05:36,307 --> 01:05:38,601 how close we came to nuclear war in '62. 1289 01:05:38,601 --> 01:05:40,311 Hell, Warren, you were born the very day... 1290 01:05:40,311 --> 01:05:43,481 President Kennedy ordered the blockade against Cuba. 1291 01:05:43,481 --> 01:05:47,193 The most powerful enemy we knew was gonna put nuclear weapons... 1292 01:05:47,193 --> 01:05:48,862 90 miles off our coast. 1293 01:05:48,862 --> 01:05:50,155 The president had to demonstrate strength. 1294 01:05:50,155 --> 01:05:54,576 And the next day, Kennedy sent Adlai Stevenson to the U.N... 1295 01:05:54,576 --> 01:05:57,829 to offer proof that the missiles existed. 1296 01:05:58,288 --> 01:05:59,205 It's not just Fox News. 1297 01:05:59,205 --> 01:06:02,792 It's the Washington Post. lt's The New York Times. 1298 01:06:02,792 --> 01:06:06,212 Hell, proof is coming from every major media outlet... 1299 01:06:06,212 --> 01:06:10,008 in the country, except yours. 1300 01:06:11,009 --> 01:06:11,634 Okay. 1301 01:06:11,634 --> 01:06:18,641 Uh, I think I forgot the hamburger buns, excuse me. 1302 01:06:19,350 --> 01:06:23,062 I'm going to grab a beer. 1303 01:06:25,023 --> 01:06:27,275 Jesus, Dad. 1304 01:06:37,785 --> 01:06:39,287 Are you okay, bro? 1305 01:06:39,287 --> 01:06:41,206 Yeah. 1306 01:06:42,457 --> 01:06:45,877 Are we good reporters? 1307 01:06:45,877 --> 01:06:46,544 What? 1308 01:06:46,544 --> 01:06:49,130 I mean, are we doing anything... 1309 01:06:49,172 --> 01:06:50,590 other than practicing good journalism? 1310 01:06:50,590 --> 01:06:52,926 No, we're doing exactly what we're supposed-- 1311 01:06:52,926 --> 01:06:55,803 Then, why the fuck are we the only ones... 1312 01:06:55,803 --> 01:06:58,890 running these fucking stories?! 1313 01:07:05,438 --> 01:07:07,899 He just wanted you to see all sides to him... 1314 01:07:07,941 --> 01:07:10,735 before you take it to the next level. 1315 01:07:14,697 --> 01:07:16,574 Almost three months ago, the United Nations... 1316 01:07:16,574 --> 01:07:19,202 Security Council gave Saddam Hussein... 1317 01:07:19,202 --> 01:07:21,996 his final chance to disarm. 1318 01:07:21,996 --> 01:07:23,540 Our intelligence officials estimate... 1319 01:07:23,540 --> 01:07:25,291 that Saddam Hussein had the materials to produce... 1320 01:07:25,291 --> 01:07:28,253 What's the point of having U.N. weapons inspections... 1321 01:07:28,253 --> 01:07:30,838 if Bush and Cheney are just going to ignore the results? 1322 01:07:30,838 --> 01:07:34,133 Well, when you're creating your own reality... 1323 01:07:34,133 --> 01:07:35,969 it's pretty easy to ignore the facts. 1324 01:07:35,969 --> 01:07:38,513 And so what? Due diligence is too inconvenient... 1325 01:07:38,513 --> 01:07:41,307 for the mainstream media at this point? 1326 01:07:41,307 --> 01:07:43,393 When news is a profit center-- 1327 01:07:43,393 --> 01:07:45,436 Access becomes currency. 1328 01:07:45,436 --> 01:07:46,980 Exactly. 1329 01:07:47,814 --> 01:07:49,566 L'm proud of you, John. 1330 01:07:49,566 --> 01:07:50,358 Why? 1331 01:07:50,358 --> 01:07:53,903 For not wavering. 1332 01:07:53,903 --> 01:07:55,363 It's got to be tough. 1333 01:07:55,363 --> 01:07:56,322 It's not that tough. 1334 01:07:56,322 --> 01:08:01,703 I know who their sources are and I know who our sources are. 1335 01:08:01,703 --> 01:08:04,998 "Iraqi Dissidents Reassured in a Talk with Bush... 1336 01:08:04,998 --> 01:08:07,458 "About the Post-Hussein Era." 1337 01:08:07,458 --> 01:08:08,251 By Judith Miller. 1338 01:08:08,251 --> 01:08:10,920 She'd quote a carnival fortune teller... 1339 01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:13,423 if he was willing to say Iraq had WMD. 1340 01:08:13,423 --> 01:08:16,259 We gotta dig into the declassified... 1341 01:08:16,259 --> 01:08:17,552 national intelligence estimate... 1342 01:08:17,552 --> 01:08:20,847 and find out if there are any gems in there. 1343 01:08:20,847 --> 01:08:21,764 Yeah, I'd love to see... 1344 01:08:21,764 --> 01:08:23,641 what they redacted from the classified version. 1345 01:08:23,641 --> 01:08:25,893 Oh, what's going on with Chalabi? 1346 01:08:25,893 --> 01:08:26,686 We're on it. 1347 01:08:26,686 --> 01:08:28,396 L'm gonna keep an eye on my old boss. 1348 01:08:28,396 --> 01:08:29,522 I got a feeling. Yeah... 1349 01:08:29,522 --> 01:08:34,068 Colin may be the last person standing between peace and war. 1350 01:08:34,068 --> 01:08:36,362 Yeah. 1351 01:08:44,287 --> 01:08:46,664 Goddamn it! 1352 01:08:51,878 --> 01:08:53,588 Fuck! 1353 01:08:57,717 --> 01:08:59,969 Angela, did the mayor set a date... 1354 01:08:59,969 --> 01:09:00,845 for the fundraiser yet? 1355 01:09:00,845 --> 01:09:03,640 Hey, Arthur, I was totally wrong. 1356 01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:06,434 Your head isn't literally up your ass. 1357 01:09:06,434 --> 01:09:09,395 It's always a pleasure to see you, John... 1358 01:09:09,395 --> 01:09:11,606 but would you please wait outside? 1359 01:09:11,606 --> 01:09:14,192 You know, it's bad enough you're ignoring all our work... 1360 01:09:14,192 --> 01:09:16,819 but the fact that you're running these bullshit... 1361 01:09:16,819 --> 01:09:20,406 Judy Miller pieces is unconscionable. 1362 01:09:20,406 --> 01:09:21,699 Not in here, John. Okay, please? 1363 01:09:21,699 --> 01:09:25,828 Let's take it in my office. Excuse me. 1364 01:09:25,828 --> 01:09:26,954 Jesus. 1365 01:09:26,954 --> 01:09:29,874 Look, as painful as this might seem... 1366 01:09:29,874 --> 01:09:30,958 I don't answer to you, John. 1367 01:09:30,958 --> 01:09:33,503 Yes, as evidenced by the fact that you still have a job. 1368 01:09:33,503 --> 01:09:35,755 You know what, my responsibility is to my readers. 1369 01:09:35,755 --> 01:09:37,090 They're citizens who are patriots... 1370 01:09:37,090 --> 01:09:39,467 they're citizens who support our troops. 1371 01:09:39,467 --> 01:09:41,260 And how do you do that, Arthur? 1372 01:09:41,260 --> 01:09:43,971 By going down on The New York Times? 1373 01:09:43,971 --> 01:09:46,015 I don't have time for this. 1374 01:09:46,015 --> 01:09:47,558 No, you don't have time. 1375 01:09:47,558 --> 01:09:48,559 You don't have time. 1376 01:09:48,559 --> 01:09:50,061 You know, one day, The New York Times... 1377 01:09:50,061 --> 01:09:51,562 is going to apologize to its readers. 1378 01:09:51,562 --> 01:09:55,566 And when that day comes, are you gonna write your own apology? 1379 01:09:55,566 --> 01:09:58,528 Or are you just going to run theirs? 1380 01:09:58,528 --> 01:10:01,197 Have a nice day, John. 1381 01:10:02,031 --> 01:10:04,617 It is beginning to look more and more as though... 1382 01:10:04,617 --> 01:10:06,411 war with Iraq is inevitable. 1383 01:10:06,411 --> 01:10:09,580 The Showdown with Iraq and the countdown to a speech... 1384 01:10:09,580 --> 01:10:11,749 by Secretary of State Colin Powell... 1385 01:10:11,749 --> 01:10:13,626 that could move the world closer to war. 1386 01:10:13,626 --> 01:10:16,212 There's not much left for the soldiers to do but wait... 1387 01:10:16,212 --> 01:10:20,341 for orders to attack, Ryan Chillcoat reports... 1388 01:10:20,341 --> 01:10:22,802 That's so frustrating. 1389 01:10:22,802 --> 01:10:26,097 I don't know that I could do what you do. 1390 01:10:27,181 --> 01:10:28,391 You know, I once got it in my head... 1391 01:10:28,391 --> 01:10:30,268 that I should hike the Appalachian Trail. 1392 01:10:30,268 --> 01:10:32,478 Thought that it would just be a good challenge for myself. 1393 01:10:32,478 --> 01:10:37,567 Then I look at it on a map and it's like 2200 miles. 1394 01:10:39,193 --> 01:10:40,653 I realized... 1395 01:10:40,653 --> 01:10:42,864 That it would take a lifetime? 1396 01:10:42,864 --> 01:10:44,991 Yeah. 1397 01:10:47,618 --> 01:10:50,121 Or we could walk it together. 1398 01:10:51,247 --> 01:10:55,001 L'm gonna hold you to that. 1399 01:10:55,001 --> 01:10:56,544 Worldwide resistance is mounting... 1400 01:10:56,544 --> 01:11:00,339 against America's military intervention into Iraq. 1401 01:11:00,339 --> 01:11:03,217 From US cities to Europe and the Middle East... 1402 01:11:03,217 --> 01:11:06,512 demonstrators have taken to the streets in opposition... 1403 01:11:06,512 --> 01:11:11,100 to the United States' threat to invade Iraq. 1404 01:11:17,565 --> 01:11:19,692 Mr. Strobel, Mr. Landay, how do you do? 1405 01:11:19,692 --> 01:11:21,110 Hello. I'm Entifadh Qanbar. 1406 01:11:21,110 --> 01:11:23,738 Hi. Now, please, follow me. 1407 01:11:24,614 --> 01:11:25,364 Who's this dude? 1408 01:11:25,364 --> 01:11:30,203 Guy who used to deliver pizzas. I'm not kidding. 1409 01:11:30,203 --> 01:11:31,871 Minister Chalabi, Mr. Jonathan Landay... 1410 01:11:31,871 --> 01:11:36,209 and Warren Strobel from Knight Ridder News. 1411 01:11:36,209 --> 01:11:37,752 Gentlemen, welcome. 1412 01:11:37,752 --> 01:11:42,215 Hey. Thank you for finally agreeing to meet with us. 1413 01:11:42,215 --> 01:11:44,717 I've been very busy. 1414 01:11:44,717 --> 01:11:46,427 Talking to our competitors. 1415 01:11:46,427 --> 01:11:49,013 I speak with whomever wishes to speak with me. 1416 01:11:49,013 --> 01:11:51,307 After all, I have nothing to hide... 1417 01:11:51,307 --> 01:11:55,269 which is more than I can say for Saddam. 1418 01:11:55,269 --> 01:11:57,188 Okay, well, since you brought him up... 1419 01:11:57,188 --> 01:11:58,397 I thought we might talk about what... 1420 01:11:58,397 --> 01:12:00,733 you know about his weapons and how he might be hiding them. 1421 01:12:00,733 --> 01:12:06,572 He has WMD and he's hiding them, that I know. 1422 01:12:06,572 --> 01:12:08,574 Right, and you know that how? 1423 01:12:08,574 --> 01:12:11,619 I know everything that's happening in my country. 1424 01:12:11,619 --> 01:12:15,248 Even though Iraq hasn't been your country for over a decade? 1425 01:12:15,248 --> 01:12:19,836 I may be an exile, but I'm still an Iraqi. 1426 01:12:19,836 --> 01:12:22,296 Well, I think the point my colleague is trying to make... 1427 01:12:22,296 --> 01:12:25,675 is how would you, an enemy of Saddam, in exile... 1428 01:12:25,675 --> 01:12:29,303 have access to such valuable information? 1429 01:12:29,303 --> 01:12:31,097 I maintain close relationships... 1430 01:12:31,097 --> 01:12:33,349 with dissident intelligence sources. 1431 01:12:33,349 --> 01:12:35,726 Is there a way we can verify that? 1432 01:12:35,726 --> 01:12:36,435 No. 1433 01:12:36,435 --> 01:12:38,729 See, that's kind of a problem for us... 1434 01:12:38,729 --> 01:12:39,856 because we can't write a story-- 1435 01:12:39,856 --> 01:12:46,404 I want what America wants, a free and democratic Iraq. 1436 01:12:46,445 --> 01:12:47,655 With you as its leader? 1437 01:12:47,697 --> 01:12:51,158 If the people of Iraq wish for me to return, yes. 1438 01:12:51,158 --> 01:12:55,538 I want the opportunity to help rebuild my country... 1439 01:12:55,538 --> 01:12:57,874 the way Mandela did in South Africa. 1440 01:12:57,915 --> 01:13:02,753 But Mandela didn't ask the U.S. to invade his country. 1441 01:13:02,795 --> 01:13:05,298 He wasn't fighting terrorists. 1442 01:13:05,298 --> 01:13:08,467 With all due respect, that's where the red flags... 1443 01:13:08,467 --> 01:13:09,302 start to go up for us. 1444 01:13:09,343 --> 01:13:12,930 Are you implying that I've created a false narrative... 1445 01:13:12,930 --> 01:13:13,764 for my own pursuits? 1446 01:13:13,764 --> 01:13:17,059 Is there another reason why you'd create a false narrative? 1447 01:13:17,059 --> 01:13:19,270 I don't lie! 1448 01:13:19,270 --> 01:13:22,440 Saddam Hussein has mobile chemical... 1449 01:13:22,440 --> 01:13:23,816 and biological weapons labs. 1450 01:13:23,816 --> 01:13:27,945 He has a nuclear program. He has ties to terrorists. 1451 01:13:27,945 --> 01:13:31,908 And if you don't believe me, just ask the many other... 1452 01:13:31,908 --> 01:13:33,659 defectors and hear what they say. 1453 01:13:33,659 --> 01:13:35,620 They will all tell you the same thing. 1454 01:13:35,620 --> 01:13:41,918 Don't they all get their information from you? 1455 01:13:43,961 --> 01:13:47,048 If you were wondering why it took so long for me... 1456 01:13:47,048 --> 01:13:52,553 to meet with you, it's this smug attitude. 1457 01:13:52,553 --> 01:13:56,641 You have no intention of reporting anything I've said. 1458 01:13:56,641 --> 01:13:59,477 Do you want us to just be your cheerleaders? 1459 01:13:59,477 --> 01:14:01,228 All right, I think we should go. 1460 01:14:01,228 --> 01:14:04,106 Thank you for your time. 1461 01:14:04,106 --> 01:14:08,569 Now I see why no one reads anything you write. 1462 01:14:08,569 --> 01:14:12,156 I am an advocate for the removal of a vicious dictator... 1463 01:14:12,156 --> 01:14:16,911 for a free Iraq, an Iraq that will one day be a close ally... 1464 01:14:16,911 --> 01:14:21,582 to your country, to Israel, and to all of the Western world. 1465 01:14:21,582 --> 01:14:25,670 And exactly how will this happen after Saddam Hussein is gone? 1466 01:14:25,670 --> 01:14:26,671 All right, come on, Landay. 1467 01:14:26,671 --> 01:14:29,131 No, no, no, he says the world will be better off... 1468 01:14:29,131 --> 01:14:30,257 but he doesn't say how. 1469 01:14:30,257 --> 01:14:32,677 How would the removal of Saddam Hussein... 1470 01:14:32,677 --> 01:14:35,805 not plunge Iraq into a bloody civil war? 1471 01:14:35,805 --> 01:14:37,139 Tell us something that makes sense... 1472 01:14:37,139 --> 01:14:43,646 anything that makes sense, and we'll write that story today. 1473 01:14:43,646 --> 01:14:44,355 You can't! 1474 01:14:44,355 --> 01:14:46,732 Because you have no idea what happens next. 1475 01:14:46,732 --> 01:14:48,609 And neither does anyone else. John. John! 1476 01:14:48,609 --> 01:14:52,154 I would rather go back and write for my high school paper... 1477 01:14:52,154 --> 01:14:53,114 than to be used by you... 1478 01:14:53,114 --> 01:14:57,076 to sell the American public your bullshit. 1479 01:14:57,076 --> 01:14:58,452 All right. 1480 01:15:01,706 --> 01:15:05,084 By the way, it's Knight Ridden. 1481 01:15:05,084 --> 01:15:06,836 Secretary of State Colin Powell will make the case... 1482 01:15:06,836 --> 01:15:10,798 against Iraq in a nationally televised address... 1483 01:15:10,798 --> 01:15:12,633 to the UN Security Council. 1484 01:15:12,633 --> 01:15:14,635 Looks like they're bringing in the closer. 1485 01:15:14,635 --> 01:15:16,721 Mr. Secretary, are you confident... 1486 01:15:16,721 --> 01:15:18,472 you will make your case, sir? 1487 01:15:18,472 --> 01:15:19,265 You'll see. 1488 01:15:19,265 --> 01:15:21,350 What the hell game have we've been playing? 1489 01:15:21,350 --> 01:15:24,687 All we did is piss into the wind. 1490 01:15:26,272 --> 01:15:28,607 We did our jobs. 1491 01:15:28,607 --> 01:15:31,986 I should never have become a reporter. 1492 01:15:31,986 --> 01:15:36,157 Damn that Woodward and Bernstein. 1493 01:15:37,283 --> 01:15:39,910 They took down a president whose biggest crime... 1494 01:15:39,910 --> 01:15:43,581 was trying to cover up some dirty political tricks. 1495 01:15:43,581 --> 01:15:46,208 This president's about to do the worst thing any president... 1496 01:15:46,208 --> 01:15:49,962 could do and he'll probably get re-elected. 1497 01:15:51,172 --> 01:15:54,050 To the democratic experiment. 1498 01:15:56,469 --> 01:15:57,928 Thank you, Mr. President. 1499 01:15:57,928 --> 01:16:00,306 My colleagues, every statement I make today... 1500 01:16:00,306 --> 01:16:04,643 is backed up by sources, solid sources. 1501 01:16:04,643 --> 01:16:08,189 The gravity of this moment is matched by the gravity... 1502 01:16:08,189 --> 01:16:12,068 of the threat that Iraq's weapons of mass destruction... 1503 01:16:12,068 --> 01:16:12,860 pose to the world. 1504 01:16:12,860 --> 01:16:16,489 It was a set up, the whole damn thing was a set up. 1505 01:16:16,489 --> 01:16:19,742 Tenet sent Powell a stack of files this high... 1506 01:16:19,742 --> 01:16:20,951 that supported the invasion. 1507 01:16:20,951 --> 01:16:22,661 Saddam Hussein is determined... 1508 01:16:22,661 --> 01:16:25,206 to get his hands on a nuclear bomb. 1509 01:16:25,206 --> 01:16:26,207 Cheney sent Scooter Libby... 1510 01:16:26,207 --> 01:16:28,876 to push three main arguments in those files. 1511 01:16:28,876 --> 01:16:30,961 One: Saddam's human rights abuses... 1512 01:16:30,961 --> 01:16:31,962 which everybody knew about. 1513 01:16:31,962 --> 01:16:33,923 Two: his links to al Qaeda, which Powell... 1514 01:16:33,923 --> 01:16:35,716 of course, threw right in the trash. 1515 01:16:35,716 --> 01:16:40,221 And the third focused on lraq's WMD. 1516 01:16:40,221 --> 01:16:42,473 Leaving Saddam Hussein in possession of weapons... 1517 01:16:42,473 --> 01:16:44,975 of mass destruction for a few more months or years... 1518 01:16:44,975 --> 01:16:49,063 is not an option, not in a post-September 11th world. 1519 01:16:49,063 --> 01:16:52,942 Over a four-day period, Powell made every single CIA officer... 1520 01:16:52,942 --> 01:16:56,987 defend every so-called piece of evidence in those files. 1521 01:16:56,987 --> 01:16:58,697 He threw out 80% of them. 1522 01:16:58,697 --> 01:16:59,907 At the end of the four days... 1523 01:16:59,907 --> 01:17:02,368 Powell looked Tenet right in the eye and said... 1524 01:17:02,368 --> 01:17:06,872 "George, can we stand by every word of this?" 1525 01:17:06,872 --> 01:17:13,963 And Tenet said, "Everything in there is gold, I promise you." 1526 01:17:13,963 --> 01:17:15,798 To which Powell replied, "Well, that's good, George. 1527 01:17:15,798 --> 01:17:18,008 "L'm glad you feel that way, 'cause you're going to be... 1528 01:17:18,008 --> 01:17:21,095 "sitting right behind me when I present this to the world." 1529 01:17:21,095 --> 01:17:25,766 We must not fail in our duty and our responsibility... 1530 01:17:25,766 --> 01:17:27,560 to the citizens of the countries... 1531 01:17:27,560 --> 01:17:31,021 that are represented by this body. 1532 01:17:31,021 --> 01:17:33,983 Colin took one for the team. 1533 01:17:33,983 --> 01:17:35,442 Always the good soldier. 1534 01:17:35,442 --> 01:17:37,778 Has the Iraqi regime fully... 1535 01:17:37,778 --> 01:17:40,698 and unconditionally disarmed? 1536 01:17:40,698 --> 01:17:44,034 The only acceptable outcome is the one already defined... 1537 01:17:44,034 --> 01:17:47,413 by a unanimous vote of the Security Council. 1538 01:17:47,413 --> 01:17:49,748 Total disarmament. 1539 01:17:49,748 --> 01:17:51,917 Great Britain, Spain and the United States have introduced.. 1540 01:17:51,917 --> 01:17:55,671 a new resolution stating that Iraq has failed to meet... 1541 01:17:55,671 --> 01:18:02,511 the requirements of Resolution 1441. 1542 01:18:02,511 --> 01:18:06,265 This is a fact, it cannot be denied. 1543 01:18:06,265 --> 01:18:08,184 And what harm would it do to give... 1544 01:18:08,184 --> 01:18:09,393 Saddam a final ultimatum? 1545 01:18:09,393 --> 01:18:12,229 A two or three day deadline to disarm or face force? 1546 01:18:12,229 --> 01:18:15,024 September the 11th changed the strategic thinking... 1547 01:18:15,024 --> 01:18:17,693 at least as far as I was concerned... 1548 01:18:17,693 --> 01:18:19,778 for how to protect our country. 1549 01:18:19,778 --> 01:18:24,867 My job is to protect the American people. 1550 01:18:24,867 --> 01:18:28,454 Used to be that we could think that you could contain... 1551 01:18:28,454 --> 01:18:29,580 a person like Saddam Hussein... 1552 01:18:29,580 --> 01:18:33,459 that oceans would protect us from his type of terror. 1553 01:18:34,293 --> 01:18:37,504 September the 11th should say to the American people-- 1554 01:18:37,504 --> 01:18:38,964 Hello? 1555 01:18:38,964 --> 01:18:41,300 You need to pack your bags. 1556 01:18:41,300 --> 01:18:43,594 Right. 1557 01:18:43,594 --> 01:18:46,513 In the hands of a terrorist organization... 1558 01:18:46,513 --> 01:18:49,516 could be deployed here at home. 1559 01:18:49,516 --> 01:18:53,979 King, John King. This is a scripted... 1560 01:18:53,979 --> 01:18:55,105 Thank you, Mr. President. 1561 01:18:55,105 --> 01:18:57,816 Sir, how would you answer your critics who say that they-- 1562 01:18:57,816 --> 01:18:59,485 They think this is somehow personal? 1563 01:18:59,485 --> 01:19:01,487 As Senator Kennedy put it tonight... 1564 01:19:01,528 --> 01:19:03,781 he said your fixation with Saddam Hussein... 1565 01:19:03,781 --> 01:19:05,824 is making the world a more dangerous place. 1566 01:19:05,824 --> 01:19:08,160 And as you prepare the American people for the possibility... 1567 01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:10,204 of military conflict, could you share with us... 1568 01:19:10,204 --> 01:19:12,581 any of the scenarios your advisors have shared... 1569 01:19:12,623 --> 01:19:15,918 with you about worst-case scenarios? 1570 01:19:15,918 --> 01:19:23,926 You make sure the-- this country knows what's going on out there. 1571 01:19:24,385 --> 01:19:25,844 Yeah? I will. 1572 01:19:25,844 --> 01:19:30,641 I swore to protect and defend the Constitution. 1573 01:19:30,641 --> 01:19:32,518 He has weapons of mass destruction... 1574 01:19:32,518 --> 01:19:36,063 and he has used weapons of mass destruction. 1575 01:19:36,063 --> 01:19:37,314 He has trained and financed... 1576 01:19:37,314 --> 01:19:39,483 al Qaeda-type organizations before. 1577 01:19:39,483 --> 01:19:43,654 I take the threat seriously, and I'll deal with the threat. 1578 01:19:43,654 --> 01:19:46,824 I hope it can be done peacefully. 1579 01:19:46,824 --> 01:19:49,410 They hate what we stand for. 1580 01:19:49,410 --> 01:19:52,621 We love freedom, and we're not changing. 1581 01:19:52,871 --> 01:19:54,748 Mr. President, millions of Americans can... 1582 01:19:54,748 --> 01:19:58,085 recall a time when leaders from both parties set this country.. 1583 01:19:58,085 --> 01:20:01,046 on a mission of regime change in Vietnam. 1584 01:20:01,046 --> 01:20:02,464 50,000 Americans died. 1585 01:20:02,464 --> 01:20:05,926 The regime is still there in Hanoi and it hasn't harmed... 1586 01:20:05,926 --> 01:20:08,345 or threatened a single American in 30 years... 1587 01:20:08,345 --> 01:20:09,305 since the war ended. 1588 01:20:09,305 --> 01:20:11,974 What can you say tonight, sir, to the sons and daughters... 1589 01:20:11,974 --> 01:20:15,561 of the Americans who served in Vietnam to assure them that... 1590 01:20:15,561 --> 01:20:19,857 you will not lead this country down a similar path in Iraq? 1591 01:20:19,857 --> 01:20:22,151 That's a great question. 1592 01:20:22,151 --> 01:20:25,988 No doubt, there's risks with any military operation. 1593 01:20:25,988 --> 01:20:26,697 I know that. 1594 01:20:26,697 --> 01:20:29,783 lt's a good thing he can draw on all that experience he got... 1595 01:20:29,783 --> 01:20:31,660 while not serving in the National Guard. 1596 01:20:31,660 --> 01:20:35,331 But it's very clear what we intend to do. 1597 01:20:35,331 --> 01:20:38,500 And our mission won't change. 1598 01:20:39,668 --> 01:20:45,007 It could last, you know, six days, six weeks... 1599 01:20:45,007 --> 01:20:48,052 I doubt six months. 1600 01:20:48,052 --> 01:20:49,803 There's a lot of money to pay for this... 1601 01:20:49,803 --> 01:20:51,430 that doesn't have to be U.S. taxpayer money. 1602 01:20:51,430 --> 01:20:54,308 We're dealing with a country that can really finance... 1603 01:20:54,308 --> 01:20:56,977 its own reconstruction, and relatively soon. 1604 01:20:56,977 --> 01:20:59,480 There will always be some uncertainty... 1605 01:20:59,480 --> 01:21:01,940 about how quickly he can acquire nuclear weapons... 1606 01:21:01,940 --> 01:21:05,235 but we don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud. 1607 01:21:05,235 --> 01:21:06,904 Do you think the America people... 1608 01:21:06,904 --> 01:21:10,783 are prepared for a long, costly, and bloody battle... 1609 01:21:10,783 --> 01:21:12,659 with significant American casualties? 1610 01:21:12,659 --> 01:21:14,912 I don't think ifs likely to unfold that way, Tim... 1611 01:21:14,912 --> 01:21:17,122 because I really do believe we will be greeted as liberators. 1612 01:21:17,122 --> 01:21:20,125 Six weeks after the war had begun, the President... 1613 01:21:20,125 --> 01:21:23,045 is set to deliver a very carefully worded speech... 1614 01:21:23,045 --> 01:21:24,755 on a carrier in the Pacific. 1615 01:21:24,755 --> 01:21:29,343 My fellow Americans, major combat operations... 1616 01:21:29,343 --> 01:21:30,761 in Iraq have ended. 1617 01:21:30,761 --> 01:21:34,264 In the battle of Iraq, the United States... 1618 01:21:34,264 --> 01:21:37,935 and our allies have prevailed. 1619 01:22:19,309 --> 01:22:22,020 I want to go down there. 1620 01:22:39,037 --> 01:22:42,916 They were the first to die. 1621 01:22:47,004 --> 01:22:49,756 Were you there? 1622 01:22:52,634 --> 01:22:54,428 Thank you. 1623 01:22:59,433 --> 01:23:01,643 Thank you, son. 1624 01:24:05,999 --> 01:24:07,543 Jonathan, how did it feel, therefore... 1625 01:24:07,543 --> 01:24:11,171 to be the lone holdouts in this pursuit of truth and fact? 1626 01:24:11,171 --> 01:24:14,466 It was very lonely and what made it actually one... 1627 01:24:14,466 --> 01:24:15,467 of the ironies is... 1628 01:24:15,467 --> 01:24:16,969 that every time we would write something... 1629 01:24:16,969 --> 01:24:20,138 the White House would say nothing, because we realized... 1630 01:24:20,138 --> 01:24:22,474 after a while that that would have been the best... 1631 01:24:22,474 --> 01:24:25,811 advertising for our stories we could have possibly asked for. 1632 01:24:25,811 --> 01:24:27,187 There's a problem with journalism... 1633 01:24:27,187 --> 01:24:28,355 in Washington, which is access. 1634 01:24:28,355 --> 01:24:30,399 And The New York Times and others had access to the top... 1635 01:24:30,399 --> 01:24:31,984 officials who were spinning this line. 1636 01:24:31,984 --> 01:24:33,485 We talked to those people, as well... 1637 01:24:33,485 --> 01:24:35,070 but most of our reporting, Christiane... 1638 01:24:35,070 --> 01:24:37,239 was with intelligence, military... 1639 01:24:37,239 --> 01:24:38,365 and diplomatic mid-level-- 1640 01:24:38,365 --> 01:24:39,575 Lower level? Lower level. 1641 01:24:39,575 --> 01:24:41,660 The types journalists don't normally talk to or go after. 1642 01:24:41,660 --> 01:24:43,870 Can I just give a little credit, also, to the man... 1643 01:24:43,870 --> 01:24:46,039 who was our boss at the time, John Walcott. 1644 01:24:46,039 --> 01:24:48,250 Higher levels of civilization... 1645 01:24:48,250 --> 01:24:50,335 must depend even more heavily... 1646 01:24:50,377 --> 01:24:53,797 on a conscientious respect forNthe importance of honesty... 1647 01:24:53,797 --> 01:24:57,843 and clarity in reporting the facts and out of stubborn... 1648 01:24:57,884 --> 01:25:03,348 concern for accuracy in determining what the facts are. 1649 01:25:03,348 --> 01:25:08,270 We need to find some way to cover the world so that... 1650 01:25:08,270 --> 01:25:10,981 we know what's happening out there... 1651 01:25:10,981 --> 01:25:12,774 that we know the truth about it... 1652 01:25:12,774 --> 01:25:17,696 so we can avoid mistakes... 1653 01:25:17,696 --> 01:25:20,282 mistakes like Iraq. 1654 01:25:20,282 --> 01:25:22,075 The intelligence was what it was. 1655 01:25:22,075 --> 01:25:23,869 You know, people like me couldn't make it up. 1656 01:25:23,869 --> 01:25:26,163 The intelligence wasn't what it was... 1657 01:25:26,163 --> 01:25:27,581 and not everybody got it wrong. 1658 01:25:27,581 --> 01:25:31,793 Almost everybody did, except for Knight Ridder. 132722

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