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EDGAR MITCHELL: Until
the current period,
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or until the last 30 years,
it was conventional wisdom
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both in science and theology--
we're alone in the universe,
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the whole, single
repository of life
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anywhere in the known universe.
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Well, no one believes
that anymore.
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NARRATOR: In 1961, astronomer
and astrophysicist Dr. Frank
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Drake devised the Drake
equation, which calculates
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the number of worlds
with intelligent life
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capable of technologically
communicating with us.
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According to Drake's
own calculations,
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there are 10,000
communicative civilizations
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in the Milky Way galaxy.
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Four decades later,
the Drake equation
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has been greatly expanded on
by Dr. Amir Aczel, bestselling
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author and Associate
Professor of Mathematics
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and Statistics at Bentley
College, Massachusetts.
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His latest book,
"Probability 1,"
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deals with why there
must be intelligent life
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in the universe.
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My calculation
of "Probability 1"
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goes far beyond what was
explored with Drake's equation.
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Drake's equation refers
only to our galaxy.
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My calculation goes to the
visible universe as a whole,
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which has billions
of galaxies, each
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containing billions of stars.
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So if you multiply
all these numbers,
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you get tremendous odds
for the existence of life.
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I think one of the main
changes that has taken place
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in recent years in
astronomers' views
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of whether or not there might
be other civilizations elsewhere
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in the universe has
to do with the fact
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that we've discovered dozens
of other planetary systems
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around other stars.
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Now in most cases,
the planets are
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giant planets like
Jupiter, not the kind
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that would harbor life.
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But where there are
those kinds of planets,
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there are likely
to be other planets
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too, in those solar systems.
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And so we're optimistic these
days about life elsewhere.
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What's the nature of
the universe we live in?
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What is our relationship
to the larger reality?
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I looked up and all of
a sudden there was this,
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you know-- gotta say
it-- flying saucer.
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Didn't even make a sound.
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Not even a sound.
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A little bit of swamp
light appears here.
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It goes out, another
one appears over here.
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That goes out.
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MAN: [SPEAKING SPANISH]
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[SPEAKING RUSSIAN]
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Man, it was just, phew, gone.
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[SPEAKING FRENCH]
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I saw one, but I don't know
where-- it just disappeared.
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INTERVIEWER (ON TV):
There is nothing to hide?
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There's nothing to hide at all.
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I was a part of the
United States Air
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Force cover-up for 18 years.
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There's no way,
within the military
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or within the government, of
keeping track of something
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that is classified.
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MAN: Yeah, awful.
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It clearly had a shape
to it, and a big shape.
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This should be the subject
of rigorous scientific
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investigation and not
the subject of rubbishing
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by tabloid newspapers.
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I am here to discuss the
so-called flying saucers.
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The Air Force interest
in this problem
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has been due to our
feeling of an obligation
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to identify and analyze to the
best of our ability anything
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in the air that may have the
possibility of threat or menace
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to the United States.
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In pursuit of this
obligation, since 1947,
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we have received and analyzed
between 1,000 and 2,000
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reports.
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There have been a certain
percentage of this volume
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of reports that have been
made by credible observers of
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relatively incredible things.
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It is this group of
observations that we
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now are attempting to resolve.
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NARRATOR: For the last 50
years, 95% of all UFO incidents
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have been explained in
down-to-earth, conventional
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terms.
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These explanations include
misidentified aircraft, weather
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balloons, atmospheric
phenomena, light aberrations,
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mass hallucinations,
hoaxes, and swamp gas.
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However, these
explanations cannot
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be applied to the remaining 5%.
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The cumulative
evidence in these cases
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leads towards a
possible conclusion
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that some UFOs are
not of Earth origin.
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In this documentary, we will
present unexplained cases
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from around the world,
investigate 50 years
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of official contradictions
and denials,
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and put forth possible
reasons for secrecy.
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We will examine scientific
theories on interstellar travel
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and discuss the current
movement for official disclosure
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on a subject that has primarily
been considered unworthy
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of serious investigation.
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The case of the Phoenix
Lights began on an evening
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in March of 1997.
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ANNOUNCER (ON TV):
Late breaking.
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You're watching
News 15 at 10:00.
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MARC BAILEY (ON TV):
Do these lights belong
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to visitors from outer space?
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Hundreds of people
across the valley
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think it's a
distinct possibility.
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Good evening, I'm Marc Bailey.
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And I'm Robin Sewell.
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Thanks for joining us.
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We start tonight with
those strange dots of light
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that were the talk of the town.
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Tonight--
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NARRATOR: As reported,
multiple UFOs were sighted
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throughout the Phoenix basin.
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Numerous eyewitnesses
were already outside,
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looking up into the night
sky to catch a glimpse
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of the Hale-Bopp comet.
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Yeah, everybody was
excited about the comet.
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But in the middle of that,
these very mysterious lights
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appeared over Phoenix,
over Maricopa County.
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NARRATOR: Michael Tanner is part
of a team of investigators who
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received roughly 800
reports from eyewitnesses
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regarding the Phoenix incident.
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Between 8:15 and 8:45,
we had an enormous craft
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at varying altitudes come
right through the center
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of the valley of Phoenix,
led by a formation
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of orbs that were
clearly visible
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through most of this state.
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It passed right in front
of us, just about-- right
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above eye's length.
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My estimate of the size of
the craft from the nose as it
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passed us, where we
lived, to the end
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of the left wing that
passed in front of us
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was over 5,000 foot long.
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It's coming across the
sky, and as it's moving,
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it's blocking and
unblocking the stars.
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There was actually a shape.
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It was actually five lights
that were a V, one in front
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and two on each side.
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And it was perfect.
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It was a perfect triangle.
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The object we saw, if
we opened up a newspaper,
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you could not block out
the object that we saw.
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People say, Mike, nah,
you saw a B-2 bomber.
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My response was, we could
land all 40 of our B-2 bombers
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on the wing of that craft.
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If you can picture Camelback
Mountain, a well-known landmark
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in Phoenix, something
about four times
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that size levitating down
the road with lights on it,
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that'll give you an
idea what this was like.
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And he says, you're not
going to believe what I saw.
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And I said, yes, I would.
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I says, that's all that's been
on the news all night long,
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is this, this craft.
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The community got
pretty excited about it.
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There was a lot of-- a lot of
press and borderline hysteria,
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almost.
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Explanations have been
tossed about-- that they
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were flares, that they were
planes flying in formation.
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But Marc and Robin, we
checked with the FAA today,
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we checked with Sky Harbor, and
we checked with Luke Air Force
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Base, and there's been
no official explanation
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of those strange bright
lights last night.
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NARRATOR: Truck
driver Bill Greiner
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was driving south on I-17
towards Luke Air Force Base.
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He witnessed several fighter
jets scramble to intercept
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two UFOs directly overhead.
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I pulled my truck alongside
the west silos, which
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faces Luke Air Force Base.
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It was, like, right there,
and I was here unloading.
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Everything was completely quiet.
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It was, like, really eerie.
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There was one
right over the base
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and then there was another
one out toward Wickenburg,
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and these things
were just hovering.
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They were huge orbs.
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But they didn't make
no sound or nothing.
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They were just hovering
right there over the base.
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All of a sudden, I hear
a lot of roaring come
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out of Luke Air Force Base.
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And here there is two
fighters coming out,
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and they had the
afterburners on 'cause
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there were huge flames coming
out the back of these things.
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Ripped right around
the back of me
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and shot right for those things.
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Then they disappeared on them
and it was just, phew, gone.
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The military says the
lights over Arizona
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last night were
flares, but the people
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who saw the lights
last night say
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they couldn't have been flares.
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NARRATOR: In central Phoenix, in
what is known as the Sunnyslope
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area, the Ley family were
coming home in the early evening
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to watch for the
Hale-Bopp comet when
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they witnessed a
very large craft
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fly directly over their house.
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You know, 'cause when
the craft went over,
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I really focused on the light.
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The tip was right out in the
street and the arm is going by,
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and the end of the arm was
at least to that mountain
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over there.
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It was 600, 700 feet away,
with these huge lights
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set inside of it.
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And I look inside and
it's, like-- it's wavy.
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When you look down the street
on a hot day in Phoenix,
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above the street,
like, it's really wavy
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and you see everything
kind of distorted.
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That's what it looked like up
inside the middle of the craft.
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And it just skimmed by.
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Didn't even make a sound.
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Not even a sound.
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NARRATOR: Further
eyewitness testimony
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came from Stacey
Roads and her daughter
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Emily, who both saw a giant
craft fly over their car.
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It was gunmetal black.
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It wasn't shiny, it
wasn't invisible.
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It was more of a dull,
bluish-black color.
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And we both just
stayed there and looked
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at it for a couple minutes,
and it was completely silent.
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NARRATOR: Mike Fortson
spotted the same craft
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from his backyard in
Chandler, a suburb of Phoenix.
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When you're looking to the
north, towards Phoenix proper,
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the lights of the city
of Phoenix and Tempe
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and Scottsdale
and all these here
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will form a gray background.
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And this was a
black object coming
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through a gray background.
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We had no problem whatsoever
seeing this vehicle.
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We knew it wasn't
really ours because it
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was just too doggone big.
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Matter of fact,
"profoundly massive"
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is a better way to describe it.
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We don't really have words
in our language to describe
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something that large.
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It was huge.
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NARRATOR: Councilwoman
Frances Barwood
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was approached by a
reporter who complained
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about the lack of response
from local government
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regarding the sightings.
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What this reporter said
was that they had gone
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to every level of government,
including the City of Phoenix,
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and nobody would talk to them.
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That this object went from
north of Prescott and Paulden
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all the way down
to Tucson and then
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was also seen in
Wickenburg, and nobody
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would give them any answer.
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They either told them
that they were not
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going to talk about it at all
or that there was nothing--
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that nothing happened.
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NARRATOR: Responding to mounting
pressure from his constituents,
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Governor Fife Symington
held a press conference.
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Oh, I'm going to
order a full, you know,
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investigation of
this through DPS.
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We're going to make all
the necessary inquiries
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and we're gonna get
to the bottom of it.
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We're gonna find out
if it was a UFO--
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[MUSIC PLAYING]
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NARRATOR: Later that
day, Governor Symington
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held an unscheduled
live press conference
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to announce that they
had discovered the source
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behind the Phoenix Lights.
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FIFE SYMINGTON (ON
TV): Now I'll ask
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Officer Stein and his
colleagues to escort
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the accused into the
room, so that we may
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all look upon the guilty party.
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[LAUGHTER]
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Now this just goes
to show that you
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guys are entirely too serious.
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[LAUGHTER]
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I think everybody pretty
much laughed at it.
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I thought it was
really disgusting.
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He was just
dismissing everything
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that these people had
seen and said, just
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like we're all Looney Tunes.
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I just thought that was a
really improper attitude
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for somebody in his position.
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Nobody in state, local,
federal, military-- nobody
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wanted to talk about it.
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They didn't want to
interview witnesses.
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They said it didn't happen.
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They said it didn't
concern them.
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There was one councilwoman,
Frances Barwood.
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She's the one that spoke up and
said, why don't we investigate?
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And then when it came
time for her election,
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she lost, and the press,
the media, everybody else
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was really trashing her bad.
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Why is everybody so afraid?
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And the only thing I
can think of is, one,
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they were afraid
of their careers.
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Which, you know, comes to a
point of what's more important,
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your soul or your job?
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And I guess to them,
it's their job.
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And the second thing
is the scorn factor.
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NARRATOR: In 2006, we caught
up with Governor Fife Symington
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to find out what really
happened and whether he believed
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the military's explanation
that the Phoenix
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Lights were just flares.
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I was never satisfied
with the explanation
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that they were
high-altitude flares.
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It didn't look like that.
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They were too-- it was
all too symmetrical.
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I mean, it clearly had a
shape to it, and a big shape.
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And it was a constant shape.
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And you can't control
flares that way.
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There's just no way
they were flares.
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NARRATOR: We also
asked him what he
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wanted to accomplish
with his alien stunt
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at the press conference.
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The hysteria that was
building with Francis
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Barwood on the city
council and some others.
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And I thought it
was just-- you know,
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they were just getting too,
you know, overboard about it.
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I mean, it was unbelievable
the hysteria that was building,
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and I just felt that there
was a need for some levity,
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and we were known, once in
awhile, to pull a prank.
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And I dressed my chief
of staff up as a Martian.
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We led him in in this
Martian costume in handcuffs
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with the Department of
Public Safety police officers
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and it was just hilarious.
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And it was just a total meltdown
at the press conference.
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It was a spoof.
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And now I'll ask Officer
Stein and his colleagues
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to escort the
accused into the room
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so that we may all look
upon the guilty party.
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Don't get him too
close to me, please.
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NARRATOR: We confronted him
with a tape recording from one
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of his many constituents
who failed to find
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the humor in this staged event.
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It's been a long
time since I've
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been put on the spot on TV.
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[LAUGHTER]
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STACEY ROADS (ON TAPE): Is
this still a matter of ridicule
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to him after he came out
on TV with his alien,
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making us all look
a little foolish?
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We've all remained unwavering
of our descriptions.
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A lot of evidence has
been provided since then
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and I'm wondering
if he still feels
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this is a matter of
ridicule or if he
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has taken a new stance on this.
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Well, it's a good question.
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And of course, as
I said earlier,
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I never felt that
the overall situation
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was a matter of ridicule.
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We certainly took
advantage of it.
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Now this just goes
to show that you
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guys are entirely too serious.
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[LAUGHTER]
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Yeah, you know, if I had
to do it all over again,
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I probably would have
handled it differently.
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But at least I have
the opportunity now
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to correct the record,
and that's important.
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NARRATOR: In
correcting the record,
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he told us what
he would say now.
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I would say that, at
that time, over Phoenix,
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we all experienced a very
exciting sighting of some kind
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of a craft of unknown origin.
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Nobody's ever been
able to explain it.
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And that it was-- most of us
feel that it was definitely,
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you know, of alien origin--
enormous, inexplicable.
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Probably one of the major
sightings in modern history
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in the country,
'cause a lot of people
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saw it in Maricopa
County, and I saw it too.
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And we never got to
the bottom of it.
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We never found out
what they were.
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[MUSIC PLAYING]
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NARRATOR: The US military's
involvement in the UFO subject
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dates back to World War II.
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It began with the
sighting by Air Force
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pilots of mysterious,
luminous orbs called
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"foo fighters," which would
pace aircraft during missions
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and then dart away.
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They'd fly circles around
anything we've got flying.
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That strange behavior
includes the ability
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to both hover and move at
extremely high velocity,
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to make a right-angle
turns at high speed,
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to go straight
up, straight down.
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All of this, typically,
without any noise,
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without any visible external
engine, without any wings,
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without any tail.
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We simply could not do
that back 50 years ago.
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NARRATOR: In the summer
of 1947, numerous UFOs
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were spotted by local
authorities, airline pilots,
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and civilians worldwide.
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By July, these sightings
made headlines in newspapers
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all across the United States,
culminating on the 8th of July
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with the alleged recovery
of a crashed disc on a ranch
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near Roswell, New Mexico.
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The military were
quick to respond.
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They sent agents out
all over this area
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here to try to get
information on Roswell.
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And yet, we stood
back like fools
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and said that it didn't exist.
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It was a weather balloon.
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NARRATOR: 50 years after the
incident, Colonel Phillip J
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Corso, formerly a member of
the National Security Council,
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revealed that the weather
balloons over Roswell
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was a cover story for the
crash of an alien craft.
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We had to cover to protect
our own installation,
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'cause they tabbed
us as kooks and it
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would destroy our organization.
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You had to understand
what was going
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on in the government and the
climate of opinion and all.
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So, discretion
better part of valor,
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we just kept it to ourselves.
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Only some certain people knew
about it, head to head, brain
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to brain-- no paper trail.
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NARRATOR: Although the official
position claimed that UFOs
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didn't exist, this
secret memorandum
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written by General Nathan
Twining suggests otherwise.
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The consensus expressed by
the Air Materiel Command
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was that "the
phenomenon reported
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is something real and not
visionary or fictitious."
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The memo continues, "There are
objects probably approximating
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the shape of a disc of
such appreciable size
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as to appear to be as large
as a man-made aircraft."
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In this chaotic climate
and in an effort
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to reorganize the US military,
President Truman passed
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the National Security Act.
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This act built the framework
for America's modern
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national security structure.
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Among other things, the act
established the National
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Security Council and the CIA.
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The National
Security Act of 1947
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allowed for the creation
of a state within a state.
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NARRATOR: Author of "UFOs and
the National Security State,"
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Richard Dolan asserts that
the signing of the National
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Security Act created an
intelligence infrastructure
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capable of maintaining a
very high level of secrecy.
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One with an enormous
amount of power,
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an enormous amount of wealth,
an enormous amount of secrecy
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and latitude of action.
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NARRATOR: The level of secrecy
imposed by the US government
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on the UFO issue is revealed
in this top secret memorandum.
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It was written in 1950 by
electronics engineer Wilbert
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Smith, a high-ranking ranking
official in the Canadian
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Department of Transport.
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After a meeting with a top
government scientist employed
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by the Pentagon, Smith was
informed that "flying saucers
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exist," and more significantly,
"the matter is the most highly
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classified subject in the
United States government,
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rating higher even
than the H-bomb."
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[EXPLOSION]
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In my opinion, I think they
were wary that it would panic
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the public if they knew
that someone had vehicles
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that had this kind
of performance way
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back right after World War II.
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NARRATOR: On a clear
night in February of 1951,
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Lieutenant Graham Bethune
sat at the controls
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of a US Navy transport plane en
route from Iceland to America.
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The flight was routine until
Bethune spotted a strange group
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of lights below his aircraft.
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And we were at 10,000 feet--
this is about 15 miles away.
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It came up to us like
that, just about that fast.
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And of course, I disengaged the
autopilot to put the nose over.
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I thought we'd be able
to go under this thing
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and not collide with it.
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And when I did, it's
staring me in the face
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and you couldn't see
anything out of the cockpit.
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We could tell it was a monster,
about 300 feet in diameter.
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As it drifted out to our
right, we could see the dome.
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NARRATOR: According
to Lieutenant Bethune,
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the object remained in this
position for about a minute.
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It then accelerated rapidly and
disappeared above the horizon.
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Upon landing at an
airbase in Newfoundland,
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he was debriefed
and interrogated
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by several officers
from Naval Intelligence.
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At the conclusion, he was
ordered to never speak
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about this incident again.
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You accept anything
like that simply
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because you're in the
military and that's your job,
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defending the country.
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And whatever they tell
you to do, you do.
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NARRATOR: The identity of the
group responsible for imposing
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the secrecy around the UFO
issue was revealed to Lieutenant
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Bethune several months later in
a conversation with an officer
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from Naval Intelligence.
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And I ask him the question.
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I said, what happens
to this report?
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Where does it go?
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He said, it goes to Navy
Intelligence, the Chief
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of Naval Operations,
then it goes to a Joint
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Intelligence Committee.
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And of course, later on, I
learned that was M-A-J-I-C,
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which is Majority Agency
of Joint Intelligence.
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00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,760
Now he said, this is
a small committee,
500
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:57,510
but this committee
determined whether it would
501
00:23:57,510 --> 00:23:58,990
affect our national security.
502
00:23:58,990 --> 00:24:00,440
That if it did,
it would probably
503
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:01,790
never go anywhere else.
504
00:24:06,790 --> 00:24:10,290
[MUSIC PLAYING]
505
00:24:10,290 --> 00:24:11,590
NARRATOR: One of
the main arguments
506
00:24:11,590 --> 00:24:14,560
used to deny the possibility
of interstellar travel
507
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:15,710
is the question of distance.
508
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,090
The closest star,
Alpha Centauri,
509
00:24:23,090 --> 00:24:26,070
is 4.2 light years away.
510
00:24:26,070 --> 00:24:27,880
If astronauts
traveled to this star
511
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:29,700
at the speed they
reached the moon,
512
00:24:29,700 --> 00:24:32,280
it would take them
roughly 100,000 years.
513
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,310
ALAN SHEPARD (ON RADIO):
OK, make it smooth.
514
00:24:34,310 --> 00:24:36,070
NARRATOR: Another major
obstacle in obtaining
515
00:24:36,070 --> 00:24:39,290
interstellar travel would be
the amount of fuel required.
516
00:24:39,290 --> 00:24:40,830
When you're driving
a car, the amount
517
00:24:40,830 --> 00:24:42,520
of propellant you have to
carry in your fuel tank
518
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:46,050
is very small, just a few
percent of the weight of car.
519
00:24:46,050 --> 00:24:47,820
When you're trying to carry
enough propellant to take
520
00:24:47,820 --> 00:24:51,100
a rocket ship vast distances,
even in our solar system,
521
00:24:51,100 --> 00:24:53,670
pretty soon you find yourself
carrying a propellant
522
00:24:53,670 --> 00:24:55,200
just to propel the propellant.
523
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,360
This problem
skyrockets to infinity.
524
00:24:57,360 --> 00:24:59,820
So we'd want to go
to propulsion systems
525
00:24:59,820 --> 00:25:02,100
that very, very high
exhaust velocities.
526
00:25:02,100 --> 00:25:04,940
And with a chemical reaction--
essentially, a barely contained
527
00:25:04,940 --> 00:25:07,050
explosion with a
chemical rocket--
528
00:25:07,050 --> 00:25:08,180
you have a limit to that.
529
00:25:08,180 --> 00:25:10,430
And that limit is
currently almost
530
00:25:10,430 --> 00:25:12,230
met by the Shuttle engines.
531
00:25:12,230 --> 00:25:14,410
You can't go beyond
it very well.
532
00:25:14,410 --> 00:25:16,040
And so we have to go
to some other kinds
533
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,020
of propulsive source.
534
00:25:18,020 --> 00:25:21,350
[MUSIC PLAYING]
535
00:25:24,930 --> 00:25:26,920
NARRATOR: Even if we could
develop a radical form
536
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:30,320
of propulsion capable of
obtaining near lightspeed,
537
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,810
Einstein's theory of
relativity tells us
538
00:25:32,810 --> 00:25:35,950
that we would encounter
another enormous problem.
539
00:25:35,950 --> 00:25:38,690
There's a law of relativity
that says that the closer you
540
00:25:38,690 --> 00:25:42,250
try to accelerate something like
a rocket to the speed of light,
541
00:25:42,250 --> 00:25:43,560
the more massive it becomes.
542
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,310
And so it becomes infinitely
massive at the speed
543
00:25:46,310 --> 00:25:49,900
of light, which makes it
impossible to get there.
544
00:25:49,900 --> 00:25:52,460
A new way of thinking
about the universe--
545
00:25:52,460 --> 00:25:54,590
NARRATOR: Physics
professor, Rhodes Scholar,
546
00:25:54,590 --> 00:25:57,160
and author of the national
bestseller, "The Elegant
547
00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,580
Universe," Dr. Brian
Greene has been
548
00:25:59,580 --> 00:26:01,540
researching
relativity and quantum
549
00:26:01,540 --> 00:26:03,790
physics for several decades.
550
00:26:03,790 --> 00:26:06,360
Dr. Greene brings up another
problem with traveling
551
00:26:06,360 --> 00:26:07,690
near the speed of light.
552
00:26:07,690 --> 00:26:10,480
If astronauts one
day go to the moon
553
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,890
and beyond in ships that travel
at a substantial fraction
554
00:26:13,890 --> 00:26:16,960
of the speed of light,
when they return to Earth,
555
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:21,430
relatively really tells us
they will be in for a shock.
556
00:26:21,430 --> 00:26:24,290
Because while they may have
thought a few months went by,
557
00:26:24,290 --> 00:26:26,850
they'll get back to Earth
and they'll see that years
558
00:26:26,850 --> 00:26:29,850
and years-- hundreds,
perhaps thousands of years--
559
00:26:29,850 --> 00:26:31,280
will have gone by.
560
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,200
This is not science fiction.
561
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:34,670
This is science fact.
562
00:26:34,670 --> 00:26:38,650
So the idea of traveling
between stellar systems
563
00:26:38,650 --> 00:26:41,050
in normal space, I don't
believe, is possible.
564
00:26:41,050 --> 00:26:44,830
We're gonna have to invoke jump
gates from "Babylon 5," or warp
565
00:26:44,830 --> 00:26:46,810
drives from "Star Trek."
566
00:26:46,810 --> 00:26:50,750
And of course, in 100 years,
who knows what might develop?
567
00:26:50,750 --> 00:26:54,240
MAN: Three, two, one, zero.
568
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,320
NARRATOR: Although, at present,
the solution to interstellar
569
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,630
travel may sound
like science fiction,
570
00:26:58,630 --> 00:27:00,460
a growing number
of scientists are
571
00:27:00,460 --> 00:27:02,690
exploring radical
new theories that
572
00:27:02,690 --> 00:27:04,380
may circumvent these obstacles.
573
00:27:07,730 --> 00:27:09,660
We're beginning to discover
in theoretical physics
574
00:27:09,660 --> 00:27:11,870
that maybe our entire
universe is just
575
00:27:11,870 --> 00:27:14,440
a subset of a much
greater universe,
576
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:15,740
a multi-dimensional universe.
577
00:27:15,740 --> 00:27:17,450
That's being investigated
in modern superstring
578
00:27:17,450 --> 00:27:19,440
and M-brane theory.
579
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:20,800
In the context of
those theories,
580
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,770
there may be new possibilities
that, so to speak, step outside
581
00:27:23,770 --> 00:27:25,810
of space-time, move
somewhere else,
582
00:27:25,810 --> 00:27:29,050
and come back into our universe
at some distant location.
583
00:27:29,050 --> 00:27:31,590
Einstein teaches us
that the fabric of space
584
00:27:31,590 --> 00:27:33,600
can respond to its environment.
585
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,960
It can warp and curve.
586
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,120
And in fact, the equations
of general relativity
587
00:27:39,120 --> 00:27:43,430
allow the fabric of space
to have severe bends.
588
00:27:43,430 --> 00:27:47,480
So long as you distribute
matter and energy
589
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,640
in the appropriate
way, you can bend
590
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,690
space fairly significantly.
591
00:27:51,690 --> 00:27:54,110
So in principle, it's
possible that if you want
592
00:27:54,110 --> 00:27:57,210
to go from one end of
the universe to another,
593
00:27:57,210 --> 00:28:00,350
you don't have to travel all
along the fabric of space.
594
00:28:00,350 --> 00:28:03,230
Maybe you can bend
the fabric of space,
595
00:28:03,230 --> 00:28:06,530
and then travel from here to
here-- a very short journey--
596
00:28:06,530 --> 00:28:08,620
by a shortcut, a wormhole.
597
00:28:08,620 --> 00:28:12,090
[MUSIC PLAYING]
598
00:28:19,020 --> 00:28:21,090
NARRATOR: Continuing research
into the possibilities
599
00:28:21,090 --> 00:28:22,750
of interstellar
travel are currently
600
00:28:22,750 --> 00:28:25,350
being conducted by NASA's
Breakthrough Propulsion
601
00:28:25,350 --> 00:28:28,220
team headed by Mark Millis.
602
00:28:28,220 --> 00:28:30,530
What we're trying to do is
break it down into the smaller
603
00:28:30,530 --> 00:28:33,090
steps to attack the
critical make/break
604
00:28:33,090 --> 00:28:35,080
issues of some of the
things we need to find out.
605
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,470
Can you propel a vehicle
without propellant?
606
00:28:37,470 --> 00:28:40,240
Can you conserve
momentum in the process?
607
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:41,870
The issues of
faster-than-light travel,
608
00:28:41,870 --> 00:28:43,740
the causality violations
and things like that.
609
00:28:43,740 --> 00:28:46,200
Address those in smaller
steps to see if you
610
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:47,860
can eventually lead that way.
611
00:28:47,860 --> 00:28:52,400
MICHAEL LINDEMANN: Today we have
scientists working for NASA,
612
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,750
working for the US Air Force,
working for British Aerospace,
613
00:28:55,750 --> 00:28:57,970
working for other
firms and agencies
614
00:28:57,970 --> 00:29:01,450
that we don't even know about
that are intent on discovering
615
00:29:01,450 --> 00:29:03,700
how to do star travel.
616
00:29:03,700 --> 00:29:06,830
They have already decided it
can be done theoretically.
617
00:29:06,830 --> 00:29:09,890
Now the question is,
OK, what's the trick?
618
00:29:09,890 --> 00:29:11,650
Let's figure it out.
619
00:29:11,650 --> 00:29:15,480
If you look back 50, 100 years
to what science as we knew then
620
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:19,590
and what we could
do today, who knows
621
00:29:19,590 --> 00:29:20,880
what we could do in the future?
622
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:24,200
So I have an inherent
optimism about progress
623
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:28,510
and I think that what
seems impossible today will
624
00:29:28,510 --> 00:29:31,690
possibly be possible tomorrow.
625
00:29:31,690 --> 00:29:33,450
We're at that point of
imagining these things,
626
00:29:33,450 --> 00:29:35,490
asking these
technological questions.
627
00:29:35,490 --> 00:29:41,620
Clearly that opens the door
to at least the possibilities
628
00:29:41,620 --> 00:29:43,680
that others have
figured it out already.
629
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,920
[MUSIC PLAYING]
630
00:29:49,190 --> 00:29:51,390
MAN (ON RADIO): T-minus
15 seconds and counting.
631
00:29:51,390 --> 00:29:58,890
Nine, eight, seven, six,
five, four, three, two--
632
00:29:58,890 --> 00:30:00,290
All right, there it goes.
633
00:30:03,110 --> 00:30:07,060
NARRATOR: In 1965, Gordon Cooper
was the last American astronaut
634
00:30:07,060 --> 00:30:08,290
to go up into space alone.
635
00:30:08,290 --> 00:30:10,030
GORDON COOPER (ON RADIO):
see what they think on it.
636
00:30:10,030 --> 00:30:12,270
Now the action that I
have taken is to turn off
637
00:30:12,270 --> 00:30:14,670
my 0.05 g switch gears and my--
638
00:30:14,670 --> 00:30:17,230
NARRATOR: He orbited
the planet 22 times.
639
00:30:17,230 --> 00:30:20,650
[MUSIC PLAYING]
640
00:30:24,060 --> 00:30:27,480
[CHEERING]
641
00:30:30,060 --> 00:30:31,260
GORDON COOPER: I
think those already
642
00:30:31,260 --> 00:30:34,840
that know me know that
I've always spoken honestly
643
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,780
and straightforward to you.
644
00:30:37,780 --> 00:30:40,270
I intend to do so today.
645
00:30:40,270 --> 00:30:42,530
NARRATOR: 10 years earlier,
while stationed at Edwards Air
646
00:30:42,530 --> 00:30:44,610
Force Base, Cooper
witnessed an event that
647
00:30:44,610 --> 00:30:49,660
has yet to be explained
nearly 50 years later.
648
00:30:49,660 --> 00:30:52,250
He was supervising the
filming of a precision landing
649
00:30:52,250 --> 00:30:54,610
facility for F-86 fighter jets.
650
00:30:59,670 --> 00:31:01,780
Suddenly, a
saucer-like craft flew
651
00:31:01,780 --> 00:31:03,700
directly over the cameramen.
652
00:31:03,700 --> 00:31:06,490
Three landing gear apparatus
opened and the object
653
00:31:06,490 --> 00:31:09,050
landed on the dry lakebed.
654
00:31:09,050 --> 00:31:10,960
GORDON COOPER: It was
just a typical saucer
655
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,640
shape, that double
lenticular shape, metallic.
656
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,440
And they went out and
picked up their cameras
657
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:20,080
and moved on out
toward him, filming.
658
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,880
And he lifted off, put
the gear back in the well,
659
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:27,880
and climbed out at a very
rate of speed and disappeared.
660
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:29,290
NARRATOR: Cooper
had the film footage
661
00:31:29,290 --> 00:31:30,640
of the strange craft developed.
662
00:31:33,580 --> 00:31:35,380
By the time it returned
from processing,
663
00:31:35,380 --> 00:31:38,040
he had gone up through the
ranks to report the incident.
664
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,780
Finally, with the colonel
telling me the, uh-- you know,
665
00:31:41,780 --> 00:31:43,590
when the film
arrived at my desk,
666
00:31:43,590 --> 00:31:45,510
to put it in a carrier pouch.
667
00:31:45,510 --> 00:31:48,680
There'd be a courier there at
my office by that time already
668
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,970
and they'd arranged for him to
fly in our base airplane back
669
00:31:52,970 --> 00:31:56,890
to Washington with these films.
670
00:31:56,890 --> 00:31:59,360
MALE INTERVIEWER: Did
you watch the film?
671
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:00,850
We didn't have a
chance to run it.
672
00:32:00,850 --> 00:32:03,770
I had a chance to hold it up
to the window and look at it.
673
00:32:03,770 --> 00:32:06,570
It was certainly good film.
674
00:32:06,570 --> 00:32:07,840
NARRATOR: After
the developed film
675
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,150
was sent by plane to
Washington, it was
676
00:32:10,150 --> 00:32:11,530
never seen or heard of again.
677
00:32:11,530 --> 00:32:13,430
MALE INTERVIEWER: Did you ever
keep in touch with anybody
678
00:32:13,430 --> 00:32:14,520
about it or discuss it?
679
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,680
How would I keep in touch
with anybody about it?
680
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:19,090
There's no way
within the military
681
00:32:19,090 --> 00:32:22,040
or within the government of
keeping track of something that
682
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,960
is classified, unless you're
directly involved in it,
683
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:25,970
and I was not.
684
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:32,750
I went into space to learn
about the universe we live in,
685
00:32:32,750 --> 00:32:36,960
to get new insights, to
go beyond the boundaries
686
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,740
of our known existence.
687
00:32:38,740 --> 00:32:40,010
EDGAR MITCHELL (ON
RADIO): How's this?
688
00:32:40,010 --> 00:32:40,890
Look OK?
689
00:32:40,890 --> 00:32:44,550
NARRATOR: Apollo 14 astronaut
and sixth man on the moon Edgar
690
00:32:44,550 --> 00:32:47,890
Mitchell states in his book,
"The Way of the Explorer,"
691
00:32:47,890 --> 00:32:52,090
that he's never had firsthand
experience with UFOs.
692
00:32:52,090 --> 00:32:55,210
However, he has "met with
credible professionals
693
00:32:55,210 --> 00:32:57,560
within two governments
who have testified
694
00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,850
to their own
firsthand experiences
695
00:32:59,850 --> 00:33:03,140
with 'close encounters'
during their official duties.
696
00:33:03,140 --> 00:33:05,270
The only people I
know of that claim
697
00:33:05,270 --> 00:33:09,470
to have been in that position
are former intelligence,
698
00:33:09,470 --> 00:33:14,530
military, and government people
and some contractor people
699
00:33:14,530 --> 00:33:17,130
whose official duties
in the early days
700
00:33:17,130 --> 00:33:21,560
were to investigate
this and know about it.
701
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:25,510
Those people are under--
were under at that time--
702
00:33:25,510 --> 00:33:29,360
great restrictions
and high security
703
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,460
clearance that prevented
them from telling
704
00:33:31,460 --> 00:33:33,970
the general public about it.
705
00:33:33,970 --> 00:33:35,840
What we photographed
up there affected me
706
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:37,010
for the rest of my life.
707
00:33:37,010 --> 00:33:40,940
NARRATOR: In 1964, former US
Air Force lieutenant Bob Jacobs
708
00:33:40,940 --> 00:33:44,420
was in the 1369th photo
squadron at Vandenberg
709
00:33:44,420 --> 00:33:46,560
Air Force Base in California.
710
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,330
He was in charge of
photo-optical instrumentation
711
00:33:49,330 --> 00:33:53,140
at a tracking site in
Big Sur, 124 miles away.
712
00:33:56,130 --> 00:33:59,360
His mission was to film an Atlas
rocket go through all three
713
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,370
stages of powered flight.
714
00:34:01,370 --> 00:34:04,400
This particular mission was
part of the Nike Zeus objective
715
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,100
for the development of
an anti-missile missile
716
00:34:07,100 --> 00:34:09,560
during the height
of the Cold War.
717
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,930
All cameras rolled as they
heard liftoff from Vandenberg
718
00:34:12,930 --> 00:34:13,630
over their radio.
719
00:34:13,630 --> 00:34:19,090
MAN (ON RADIO): Six, five,
four, three, two, one.
720
00:34:25,530 --> 00:34:30,070
ROBERT JACOBS: We were
looking down south, southwest,
721
00:34:30,070 --> 00:34:31,580
and the missile popped
up through the fog.
722
00:34:31,580 --> 00:34:34,130
It was just beautiful.
723
00:34:34,130 --> 00:34:36,060
Then our guys on
our M45 tracking
724
00:34:36,060 --> 00:34:39,830
mount with 180-inch
lenses on it got it.
725
00:34:39,830 --> 00:34:41,190
And sure enough, we
could see all three
726
00:34:41,190 --> 00:34:44,090
stages of powered flight as they
burned out and dropped away.
727
00:34:44,090 --> 00:34:46,050
And then, of course, to
our naked eye, all we saw
728
00:34:46,050 --> 00:34:49,670
was a kind of smoke trail
going off into subspace.
729
00:34:49,670 --> 00:34:52,530
So we whoopeed and
shouted and heard the film
730
00:34:52,530 --> 00:34:56,990
wrap off in the BU
telescope and figured,
731
00:34:56,990 --> 00:35:00,410
well, that was our first
big deal and we got it.
732
00:35:00,410 --> 00:35:02,430
NARRATOR: Lieutenant Jacobs
then took the cans of film
733
00:35:02,430 --> 00:35:06,510
down to Vandenberg to have
them developed that night.
734
00:35:06,510 --> 00:35:09,400
The following morning, Jacobs
was ordered to go immediately
735
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,340
to the office of
Major Florence J
736
00:35:11,340 --> 00:35:14,130
Mansmann, the ranking
optical instrumentation
737
00:35:14,130 --> 00:35:15,760
officer in charge.
738
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,130
I walked into his
office and they
739
00:35:17,130 --> 00:35:20,410
had a screen and a
16-millimeter projector set up.
740
00:35:20,410 --> 00:35:23,920
There was a couch and Major
Mansmann said sit down.
741
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:25,600
And there were two
guys, as I recall--
742
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:29,590
two guys in grey suits,
civilian clothes,
743
00:35:29,590 --> 00:35:30,610
which was fairly unusual.
744
00:35:33,650 --> 00:35:36,700
And Major Mansmann
said, "Watch this,"
745
00:35:36,700 --> 00:35:38,550
and turned on the
film projector.
746
00:35:38,550 --> 00:35:40,320
And I watched the
screen and there
747
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:44,080
was the launch from the day
or two before at Big Sur.
748
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,820
As the Atlas missile
entered the frame,
749
00:35:46,820 --> 00:35:52,580
we could see the whole third
stage, which has two rocket
750
00:35:52,580 --> 00:35:54,810
nozzles like this and one in
the center, a gimbaled one
751
00:35:54,810 --> 00:35:58,750
in the center, fill in our
frame from 100 and-- oh,
752
00:35:58,750 --> 00:35:59,920
about 160 miles.
753
00:35:59,920 --> 00:36:01,930
It pretty exciting optics.
754
00:36:01,930 --> 00:36:05,570
And then on that telescope
we could see the warhead,
755
00:36:05,570 --> 00:36:07,170
the dummy warhead.
756
00:36:07,170 --> 00:36:08,990
NARRATOR: According to
Jacobs, at this stage,
757
00:36:08,990 --> 00:36:10,920
the rocket was
travelling between 11,000
758
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:14,300
and 14,000 miles per
hour when a saucer-shaped
759
00:36:14,300 --> 00:36:16,400
craft entered the frame.
760
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,120
It flew into the
frame like this
761
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:22,690
and it shot a beam of
light at the warhead.
762
00:36:22,690 --> 00:36:25,000
Now remember, all this stuff
is flying at several thousand
763
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:26,280
miles an hour.
764
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,320
So the thing fires a beam
of light at the warhead,
765
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,010
hits it, fires
another beam of light,
766
00:36:30,010 --> 00:36:32,770
and then flies out
the way it came in.
767
00:36:32,770 --> 00:36:37,840
And the warhead
tumbles out of space.
768
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,120
Now, when the lights
came on, Major Mansmann
769
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,050
turned around, looked
at me, and said,
770
00:36:42,050 --> 00:36:44,760
were you guys screwing
around up there?
771
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,000
And I said, no, sir.
772
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,260
And he said, what was that?
773
00:36:50,260 --> 00:36:53,370
And I said, it looks to
me like we got a UFO.
774
00:36:56,820 --> 00:36:58,210
NARRATOR: Nearly
two decades later,
775
00:36:58,210 --> 00:37:00,890
several letters written by
Major Florence J Mansmann
776
00:37:00,890 --> 00:37:01,980
were obtained.
777
00:37:01,980 --> 00:37:06,770
In one dated March 8, 1983,
Major Mansmann corroborated
778
00:37:06,770 --> 00:37:09,160
Lieutenant Jacobs' story.
779
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:13,260
"In the film, the assumption was
at that time extraterrestrial.
780
00:37:13,260 --> 00:37:15,980
Details would be
sketchy and from memory.
781
00:37:15,980 --> 00:37:18,060
The shape was classic disc.
782
00:37:18,060 --> 00:37:21,900
The center seemed to
be a raised bubble."
783
00:37:21,900 --> 00:37:26,600
Now Major Mansmann said to
me, after some discussion
784
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:33,470
about it-- he said, you are
never to speak of this again.
785
00:37:33,470 --> 00:37:35,820
As far as you're concerned,
this never happened.
786
00:37:38,350 --> 00:37:40,810
NARRATOR: In another letter,
Major Mansmann describes how
787
00:37:40,810 --> 00:37:43,060
two agents took the footage.
788
00:37:43,060 --> 00:37:45,190
"They did not sign out
for all the footage,
789
00:37:45,190 --> 00:37:47,930
but took out that part
that showed the encounter
790
00:37:47,930 --> 00:37:51,820
and returned the rest of the
film as a 'complete' package.
791
00:37:51,820 --> 00:37:54,980
The one agent stated as he
handed me back the film,
792
00:37:54,980 --> 00:37:58,700
'That leaves you off the hook,
but not off any disclosure--
793
00:37:58,700 --> 00:38:03,290
understood?' Naturally, my
answer was, 'Yes, sir.'"
794
00:38:03,290 --> 00:38:05,220
Major Mansmann
never saw it again
795
00:38:05,220 --> 00:38:08,160
and, as far as I'm concerned,
nobody else ever saw it again.
796
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:09,230
Certainly not at Vandenberg.
797
00:38:09,230 --> 00:38:10,690
I'm certain that
it left Vandenberg
798
00:38:10,690 --> 00:38:11,490
and went somewhere else.
799
00:38:14,370 --> 00:38:16,310
NARRATOR: Another case
involving nuclear missiles
800
00:38:16,310 --> 00:38:18,410
happened three years
later at Malmstrom
801
00:38:18,410 --> 00:38:20,280
Air Force Base in Montana.
802
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,610
This site is the largest
missile field in the world.
803
00:38:25,870 --> 00:38:28,230
We simply were told
not to talk about it.
804
00:38:28,230 --> 00:38:31,790
We did not talk
about it to anyone.
805
00:38:31,790 --> 00:38:34,270
NARRATOR: As a Strategic Air
Command launch controller,
806
00:38:34,270 --> 00:38:36,140
Lieutenant Colonel
Robert Salas was
807
00:38:36,140 --> 00:38:38,380
one of the men responsible
for the deployment
808
00:38:38,380 --> 00:38:40,690
of nuclear Minuteman missiles.
809
00:38:40,690 --> 00:38:44,470
Three, two, one, key turn.
810
00:38:50,420 --> 00:38:52,520
NARRATOR: These missiles were to
be launched as a counterattack
811
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,670
in the event of nuclear war.
812
00:38:57,410 --> 00:39:01,070
On March 16, 1967,
Lieutenant Colonel Salas
813
00:39:01,070 --> 00:39:04,630
was on duty when he was
contacted by his topside guard
814
00:39:04,630 --> 00:39:06,960
stating that there was
an unidentified object
815
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:08,020
above the missile site.
816
00:39:08,020 --> 00:39:10,280
--as I can tell, it'll be
past the initiating area in--
817
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:11,380
NARRATOR: Salas
ordered the guard
818
00:39:11,380 --> 00:39:14,750
to observe and report back
on any further development.
819
00:39:14,750 --> 00:39:17,020
Then he called back
within a few minutes
820
00:39:17,020 --> 00:39:18,740
and was very frightened.
821
00:39:18,740 --> 00:39:21,620
I could tell by his voice
he was extremely agitated.
822
00:39:24,270 --> 00:39:26,660
He said there was
an object hovering
823
00:39:26,660 --> 00:39:29,750
outside the front
gate, a reddish-orange,
824
00:39:29,750 --> 00:39:31,550
oval-shaped object.
825
00:39:31,550 --> 00:39:34,010
And it just hung there quietly.
826
00:39:34,010 --> 00:39:38,160
I went and woke up
my commander and told
827
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:39,270
him about the two phone calls.
828
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:45,410
And as I was telling him
about the phone calls,
829
00:39:45,410 --> 00:39:51,500
our missiles went into no-go
condition, one after the other.
830
00:39:51,500 --> 00:39:56,740
We lost nearly 20
missiles that morning.
831
00:39:56,740 --> 00:39:58,250
NARRATOR: After speaking
with his commander,
832
00:39:58,250 --> 00:40:01,420
Salas again contacted
the topside guard.
833
00:40:01,420 --> 00:40:05,590
The guard said that
the UFO had vanished.
834
00:40:05,590 --> 00:40:08,750
Basically, it just
took off at high speed.
835
00:40:08,750 --> 00:40:10,780
It was no longer there.
836
00:40:10,780 --> 00:40:14,870
These missiles are
controlled individually,
837
00:40:14,870 --> 00:40:18,050
so if something did
happen within the system--
838
00:40:18,050 --> 00:40:21,360
the electrical system, let's
say, or the command and control
839
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,850
system-- for one missile,
one launch facility,
840
00:40:24,850 --> 00:40:26,180
it would not affect the others.
841
00:40:26,180 --> 00:40:27,070
One select switch off.
842
00:40:27,070 --> 00:40:28,980
Check.
843
00:40:28,980 --> 00:40:30,480
ROBERT SALAS: And in
addition, these missiles
844
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,380
are separated by miles.
845
00:40:32,380 --> 00:40:35,570
So all these things
point to the fact
846
00:40:35,570 --> 00:40:44,430
that somehow this object was
able to disable these missiles.
847
00:40:44,430 --> 00:40:46,040
NARRATOR: Later that
day, Salas was ordered
848
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:47,680
to report to the
Air Force Office
849
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:52,340
of Special Investigations for
debriefing by two OSI officers.
850
00:40:52,340 --> 00:40:55,990
And so after we gave them our
little debrief, the first thing
851
00:40:55,990 --> 00:41:00,240
the OSI guy did is
stand up and said,
852
00:41:00,240 --> 00:41:02,830
you need to sign these documents
not to disclose any of this
853
00:41:02,830 --> 00:41:04,610
to anyone, ever.
854
00:41:04,610 --> 00:41:10,630
And we signed and
basically that was it.
855
00:41:10,630 --> 00:41:13,570
Neither one of them asked
too many more questions
856
00:41:13,570 --> 00:41:16,280
and we were escorted out.
857
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:17,910
NARRATOR: Several
recently declassified
858
00:41:17,910 --> 00:41:20,730
documents support
Salas' claims of UFO
859
00:41:20,730 --> 00:41:23,390
sightings near Malmstrom.
860
00:41:23,390 --> 00:41:27,040
This preliminary report
dated the 24th of March,
861
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:31,540
1967 states that "between the
hours of 2100 and 0400 Mountain
862
00:41:31,540 --> 00:41:35,500
Standard Time numerous reports
were received by Malmstrom Air
863
00:41:35,500 --> 00:41:38,970
Force Base agencies of UFO
sightings in the Great Falls,
864
00:41:38,970 --> 00:41:41,910
Montana area."
865
00:41:41,910 --> 00:41:46,010
It goes on further to state
that "reports of a UFO landing
866
00:41:46,010 --> 00:41:49,620
near Belt, Montana were
received from several sources,
867
00:41:49,620 --> 00:41:54,690
including deputies of Cascade
County Sheriff's Office."
868
00:41:54,690 --> 00:41:57,980
Another formally classified
secret Air Force telex states
869
00:41:57,980 --> 00:42:01,690
that "the fact that no apparent
reason for the loss of 10
870
00:42:01,690 --> 00:42:03,700
missiles can be
readily identified
871
00:42:03,700 --> 00:42:09,100
as cause for grave concern
to this headquarters."
872
00:42:09,100 --> 00:42:11,870
In 1993, after
Lieutenant Colonel Salas
873
00:42:11,870 --> 00:42:13,640
had retired from
the Air Force, he
874
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,290
tried to gain access to
official Air Force records
875
00:42:16,290 --> 00:42:18,370
of the incident.
876
00:42:18,370 --> 00:42:20,350
In a letter from the
Department of the Air Force,
877
00:42:20,350 --> 00:42:23,900
he was informed that
"no UFO report affected
878
00:42:23,900 --> 00:42:27,520
national security," making
reference to an attached Air
879
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:32,490
Force fact sheet which states
"no UFO reported, investigated,
880
00:42:32,490 --> 00:42:34,580
and evaluated by
the Air Force has
881
00:42:34,580 --> 00:42:36,600
ever given any
indication of threat
882
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:38,810
to our national security."
883
00:42:38,810 --> 00:42:44,260
If 20 nuclear missiles going
down the same time UFOs are
884
00:42:44,260 --> 00:42:51,170
sighted-- nearly 20-- is not
a national security incident,
885
00:42:51,170 --> 00:42:53,850
then I don't know what is.
886
00:42:53,850 --> 00:42:55,460
NARRATOR: If unidentified
flying objects
887
00:42:55,460 --> 00:42:59,000
are capable of disabling our
most powerful weapon systems,
888
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:00,710
then understandably
the military would
889
00:43:00,710 --> 00:43:02,720
not want to reveal
any information
890
00:43:02,720 --> 00:43:05,730
exposing its vulnerability.
891
00:43:05,730 --> 00:43:08,370
This is confirmed in a letter
from the Department of the US
892
00:43:08,370 --> 00:43:11,570
Air Force which states, "as
regards this subject matter,
893
00:43:11,570 --> 00:43:14,590
mere existence or
nonexistence is currently
894
00:43:14,590 --> 00:43:17,660
and properly classified
per executive order
895
00:43:17,660 --> 00:43:20,010
and exempt from
mandatory disclosure
896
00:43:20,010 --> 00:43:22,220
under the Freedom
of Information Act
897
00:43:22,220 --> 00:43:26,990
because it would reveal defense
capability or lack thereof."
898
00:43:26,990 --> 00:43:29,160
This letter was a
response to an inquiry
899
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,920
made by electronic system
technician Lee Graham.
900
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:36,480
At the time, Mr. Graham worked
at Aerojet, a prime contractor
901
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:40,850
to the US Air Force in
developing DSP satellites.
902
00:43:40,850 --> 00:43:42,700
He asked the foreign
technology division
903
00:43:42,700 --> 00:43:45,070
if the satellite
system he worked on
904
00:43:45,070 --> 00:43:48,560
could and had detected UFOs.
905
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:52,710
Perhaps we need some outside
universal threat to make--
906
00:43:52,710 --> 00:43:54,130
NARRATOR: On five
separate occasions,
907
00:43:54,130 --> 00:43:57,420
Ronald Reagan made references
to an outside alien threat
908
00:43:57,420 --> 00:44:00,510
and the unifying effect
it would have on us all.
909
00:44:00,510 --> 00:44:03,630
One such reference was
made in September of 1987
910
00:44:03,630 --> 00:44:06,320
while addressing
the United Nations.
911
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:10,030
I occasionally think how
quickly our differences
912
00:44:10,030 --> 00:44:15,290
worldwide would vanish if we
were facing an alien threat
913
00:44:15,290 --> 00:44:18,500
from outside this world.
914
00:44:18,500 --> 00:44:23,980
And yet I ask you, is not an
alien force already among us?
915
00:44:23,980 --> 00:44:27,580
What could be more alien to
the universal aspirations
916
00:44:27,580 --> 00:44:30,950
of our peoples than war
and the threat of war?
917
00:44:36,950 --> 00:44:40,450
[MUSIC PLAYING]
918
00:44:44,450 --> 00:44:45,890
NARRATOR: Not every
government chooses
919
00:44:45,890 --> 00:44:49,390
to deny the existence of UFOs.
920
00:44:49,390 --> 00:44:52,010
Since the fall of
communism in 1989,
921
00:44:52,010 --> 00:44:53,670
information
surrounding the subject
922
00:44:53,670 --> 00:44:55,760
has become much more
accessible in Russia.
923
00:45:02,860 --> 00:45:06,010
Cosmonaut Pavel Popovich
was one of Russia's earliest
924
00:45:06,010 --> 00:45:06,830
cosmonauts.
925
00:45:06,830 --> 00:45:09,180
He joins the ranks of
an increasing number
926
00:45:09,180 --> 00:45:12,600
of military personnel who have
testified as to the validity
927
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,830
of the UFO phenomena.
928
00:45:15,830 --> 00:45:17,790
Major General Popovich
shared with us
929
00:45:17,790 --> 00:45:19,720
a sighting he had
while flying home
930
00:45:19,720 --> 00:45:23,470
from Washington DC with a
delegation of scientists.
931
00:45:23,470 --> 00:45:24,170
[SPEAKING RUSSIAN]
932
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,150
NARRATOR: The pilots
contacted ground control.
933
00:46:06,150 --> 00:46:09,050
Ground control did not
detect anything on radar,
934
00:46:09,050 --> 00:46:10,740
even though the
object could be seen
935
00:46:10,740 --> 00:46:14,310
by all occupants of the plane.
936
00:46:14,310 --> 00:46:15,110
[SPEAKING RUSSIAN]
937
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:52,570
MAN: Now we're going to meet
the head of Special Intelligence
938
00:46:52,570 --> 00:46:56,970
section of the Center for
Space Communication of Russia,
939
00:46:56,970 --> 00:46:58,920
Major General Vasily Alexeyev.
940
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:02,850
It's like CIA, but I
don't know how to tell--
941
00:47:02,850 --> 00:47:05,470
NARRATOR: Just outside
Moscow is Star City.
942
00:47:05,470 --> 00:47:08,820
This is the home of the
Russian Space Program.
943
00:47:08,820 --> 00:47:12,290
[SPEAKING RUSSIAN]
944
00:47:22,210 --> 00:47:23,640
NARRATOR: During the
Space Race of the late
945
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:25,320
'50s and early '60s--
946
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:26,670
[SPEAKING RUSSIAN]
947
00:47:28,030 --> 00:47:29,840
NARRATOR: --the Russians
also experienced
948
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:31,140
numerous sightings of UFOs.
949
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:39,140
MAN (ON RADIO):
[SPEAKING RUSSIAN]
950
00:47:45,140 --> 00:47:47,760
NARRATOR: In Star City, we
met with General Alexeyev, who
951
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,560
spoke with us about the
history of unidentified flying
952
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:51,730
objects over Russia.
953
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:57,020
[SPEAKING RUSSIAN]
954
00:48:26,270 --> 00:48:28,880
NARRATOR: During the Cold
War with the Soviet Union,
955
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:30,860
the U2 spy plane
was one of the most
956
00:48:30,860 --> 00:48:33,100
highly classified projects.
957
00:48:33,100 --> 00:48:36,520
In the late '50s, Gordon Cooper
was involved with its research
958
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:37,930
and development.
959
00:48:37,930 --> 00:48:41,060
Being familiar with that
era's cutting edge technology,
960
00:48:41,060 --> 00:48:43,370
Cooper was certain that
the craft he'd seen
961
00:48:43,370 --> 00:48:46,010
was not manufactured
on this planet.
962
00:48:46,010 --> 00:48:50,370
I mean, we didn't have
any vehicles of that kind.
963
00:48:50,370 --> 00:48:54,860
And I was 99.9% sure
that the Russians didn't
964
00:48:54,860 --> 00:48:57,420
have any of that type either.
965
00:48:57,420 --> 00:48:58,180
[SPEAKING RUSSIAN]
966
00:49:17,770 --> 00:49:20,370
NARRATOR: By the '70s, the
Russian military began to take
967
00:49:20,370 --> 00:49:22,760
the UFO subject very seriously.
968
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:23,990
[SPEAKING RUSSIAN]
969
00:49:37,810 --> 00:49:39,450
NARRATOR: At this
point, the Soviet Union
970
00:49:39,450 --> 00:49:41,500
allocated a great
sum of money towards
971
00:49:41,500 --> 00:49:44,940
a thorough investigation
of the UFO phenomena.
972
00:49:44,940 --> 00:49:45,840
[SPEAKING RUSSIAN]
973
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:07,680
NARRATOR: After the fall
of the Soviet Union,
974
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:11,020
glasnost brought about
a new era of openness.
975
00:50:11,020 --> 00:50:14,650
We traveled to Mineral Water, a
city near the Chechnyan border,
976
00:50:14,650 --> 00:50:17,220
where we met with Deputy
Minister of the Interior
977
00:50:17,220 --> 00:50:19,690
Colonel Opravich.
978
00:50:19,690 --> 00:50:21,750
He shared with us
a sighting he had
979
00:50:21,750 --> 00:50:24,560
while flying in a
commercial jet over Russia.
980
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:27,270
He, along with 100
other passengers,
981
00:50:27,270 --> 00:50:30,450
noticed a spherical
object outside the plane.
982
00:50:30,450 --> 00:50:31,260
[SPEAKING RUSSIAN]
983
00:50:59,630 --> 00:51:01,430
NARRATOR: This sighting
led the colonel
984
00:51:01,430 --> 00:51:04,060
to do extensive research
on UFO full incidents
985
00:51:04,060 --> 00:51:05,990
throughout Russia.
986
00:51:05,990 --> 00:51:06,690
[SPEAKING RUSSIAN]
987
00:51:31,130 --> 00:51:34,500
[MUSIC PLAYING]
988
00:51:40,300 --> 00:51:44,060
NARRATOR: 140 miles north of
London is Bentwaters, England.
989
00:51:44,060 --> 00:51:47,750
In December of 1980, a
United States Air Force Base
990
00:51:47,750 --> 00:51:50,240
armed with nuclear
weapons was reportedly
991
00:51:50,240 --> 00:51:52,460
the site of a series
of UFO encounters
992
00:51:52,460 --> 00:51:54,070
over a three day period.
993
00:52:10,970 --> 00:52:14,200
NARRATOR: Responding to reports
of a possible downed aircraft,
994
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:16,790
three patrolman were sent
out to Rendlesham Forest
995
00:52:16,790 --> 00:52:19,230
to investigate.
996
00:52:19,230 --> 00:52:21,500
Airman First Class
Edward Cabansag
997
00:52:21,500 --> 00:52:24,220
was one of the security
officers present.
998
00:52:24,220 --> 00:52:27,560
That night, we were
on Security One,
999
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:29,840
which is in charge
of mobile security
1000
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:31,690
for the Woodbridge base.
1001
00:52:31,690 --> 00:52:35,550
And we responded
to Jim Burrough's
1002
00:52:35,550 --> 00:52:39,460
sighting of something out on
the edge of the flight line.
1003
00:52:39,460 --> 00:52:41,320
Well, the controller
on the radio
1004
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:43,150
broadcast over the
air that go down
1005
00:52:43,150 --> 00:52:45,090
and check out a possible UFO.
1006
00:52:45,090 --> 00:52:47,410
NARRATOR: Another security
officer present was Airman
1007
00:52:47,410 --> 00:52:50,010
First Class John Burroughs.
1008
00:52:50,010 --> 00:52:52,760
So it was like me-- it
was Penniston and me,
1009
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:54,520
and then Cabansag to my right.
1010
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:57,690
It was apparent that it
wasn't an aircraft crash.
1011
00:52:57,690 --> 00:52:58,990
We knew that much.
1012
00:52:58,990 --> 00:53:00,790
NARRATOR: Staff
Sergeant Jim Penniston
1013
00:53:00,790 --> 00:53:03,500
was sent down to lead
Burroughs and Cabansag
1014
00:53:03,500 --> 00:53:05,560
to investigate the object.
1015
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:10,990
There was a craft of
some sort that was sitting
1016
00:53:10,990 --> 00:53:12,180
just inside the treeline.
1017
00:53:12,180 --> 00:53:14,730
NARRATOR: As the three officers
approached the alleged crash
1018
00:53:14,730 --> 00:53:16,880
site, it became obvious
that it wasn't what
1019
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:18,260
they were prepared for.
1020
00:53:18,260 --> 00:53:20,220
Burroughs would say to Jim
Penniston, do you see that?
1021
00:53:20,220 --> 00:53:20,920
Do you see?
1022
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,980
Do you see what's out there
at the edge of the trees?
1023
00:53:23,980 --> 00:53:26,310
It was this bright
lights, you know?
1024
00:53:26,310 --> 00:53:28,700
And the only way
you can describe it
1025
00:53:28,700 --> 00:53:30,360
is, I guess you'd
call it an object.
1026
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:31,730
At that point in
time, three of us
1027
00:53:31,730 --> 00:53:33,940
had direct observation
of the craft.
1028
00:53:33,940 --> 00:53:37,550
The closer we would get to it,
we would lose communication,
1029
00:53:37,550 --> 00:53:40,940
you know, with central
security control.
1030
00:53:40,940 --> 00:53:42,980
NARRATOR: Cabansag was
sent back towards the base
1031
00:53:42,980 --> 00:53:44,640
to help transmit
radio communications
1032
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:46,830
between the other
two officers, who
1033
00:53:46,830 --> 00:53:49,080
went further to investigate.
1034
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:50,450
The only noise we
heard out in the woods
1035
00:53:50,450 --> 00:53:52,420
was the noise of the animals.
1036
00:53:52,420 --> 00:53:54,700
Just as Burroughs and
I entered the treeline,
1037
00:53:54,700 --> 00:53:57,700
the shape of the
craft was defined.
1038
00:53:57,700 --> 00:54:00,610
The closer we got, the more
the white light dissipated.
1039
00:54:00,610 --> 00:54:04,130
But what appeared was
a triangular craft.
1040
00:54:04,130 --> 00:54:07,290
When we approached
it, it was-- oh, I
1041
00:54:07,290 --> 00:54:09,560
say it measured
probably about nine
1042
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:15,040
feet long, maybe six feet high.
1043
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,700
A little higher-- maybe
six and a half feet.
1044
00:54:17,700 --> 00:54:20,750
The lighting emanated from
the fabric of the craft
1045
00:54:20,750 --> 00:54:22,310
and it would
actually move around.
1046
00:54:22,310 --> 00:54:23,230
I mean, it would move.
1047
00:54:23,230 --> 00:54:25,290
You'd have different
locations where
1048
00:54:25,290 --> 00:54:26,770
maybe a little blue
lighting was going
1049
00:54:26,770 --> 00:54:29,750
into it, or maybe a little red.
1050
00:54:29,750 --> 00:54:31,610
And then there
must've been some type
1051
00:54:31,610 --> 00:54:34,700
of lighting underneath of
it, because it silhouetted
1052
00:54:34,700 --> 00:54:37,970
the aircraft itself.
1053
00:54:37,970 --> 00:54:40,670
What I did that night is
I had my notebook with me.
1054
00:54:40,670 --> 00:54:44,020
I went around and started doing
a 360 walk around the area,
1055
00:54:44,020 --> 00:54:46,490
taking and recording
my observations.
1056
00:54:46,490 --> 00:54:48,740
I was looking underneath
the craft like that.
1057
00:54:48,740 --> 00:54:51,930
I had taken quite
detailed notes on that.
1058
00:54:51,930 --> 00:54:55,190
"Type of aircraft still unknown.
1059
00:54:55,190 --> 00:54:57,870
No apparent landing gear.
1060
00:54:57,870 --> 00:55:02,310
No sound, but appears to
be pulsating somehow."
1061
00:55:02,310 --> 00:55:03,940
Yeah, it was pretty
nerve-racking.
1062
00:55:03,940 --> 00:55:07,440
I mean, when there's something
there right in front of you,
1063
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:08,730
you don't know what it is.
1064
00:55:08,730 --> 00:55:13,740
I would go ahead and feel
the craft, which was warm.
1065
00:55:13,740 --> 00:55:17,160
There were static
electricity in the air.
1066
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:18,560
"Very warm to touch.
1067
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:21,560
Identifying markings
are on left front side."
1068
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:25,900
As I came around to the
one side of the craft,
1069
00:55:25,900 --> 00:55:31,510
there was etching on the--
facing me just above the center
1070
00:55:31,510 --> 00:55:33,460
part of the craft itself.
1071
00:55:33,460 --> 00:55:35,290
Course, this is done
all freehand as I
1072
00:55:35,290 --> 00:55:37,100
was walking around the craft.
1073
00:55:37,100 --> 00:55:40,300
But these symbols ran
from left to right across.
1074
00:55:40,300 --> 00:55:43,270
And then underneath
that line of symbols
1075
00:55:43,270 --> 00:55:48,100
was this, which is triangular,
and some type of circle here,
1076
00:55:48,100 --> 00:55:51,330
some type of circle here,
and a larger circle here.
1077
00:55:51,330 --> 00:55:54,460
And of course, all this was
filled in with the, like,
1078
00:55:54,460 --> 00:55:56,410
the etching part of it.
1079
00:55:56,410 --> 00:55:58,020
Like you would etch glass.
1080
00:55:58,020 --> 00:56:00,640
So those symbols
were raised and they
1081
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:06,040
had a different feel than the
rest of fabric of the craft.
1082
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:10,970
Liftoff occurred at 2:45 with no
sound, no air disturbance, and
1083
00:56:10,970 --> 00:56:13,500
no other identifying markings.
1084
00:56:13,500 --> 00:56:15,430
Myself and, at that
time, Burroughs,
1085
00:56:15,430 --> 00:56:20,570
we were a fairly good distance--
maybe 30 feet-- away from it.
1086
00:56:20,570 --> 00:56:23,770
And we had taken a
defensive position
1087
00:56:23,770 --> 00:56:25,240
on that, on the ground.
1088
00:56:25,240 --> 00:56:26,700
I mean, it was
threatening to me,
1089
00:56:26,700 --> 00:56:29,450
but it wasn't the type that
you were going to shoot on.
1090
00:56:29,450 --> 00:56:32,010
And also the fact was
that what would happen
1091
00:56:32,010 --> 00:56:34,290
if I would have shot at him?
1092
00:56:34,290 --> 00:56:37,760
What good would it have done?
1093
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:43,570
And then it started moving
back in between the trees,
1094
00:56:43,570 --> 00:56:48,290
with absolutely no sound,
no air disturbance at all.
1095
00:56:48,290 --> 00:56:50,260
Whatever it was,
went up and shot
1096
00:56:50,260 --> 00:56:52,500
back up out over the trees,
just like it was there
1097
00:56:52,500 --> 00:56:54,060
and it was gone.
1098
00:56:54,060 --> 00:56:55,250
"Takeoff.
1099
00:56:55,250 --> 00:56:56,460
Unknown speed."
1100
00:56:56,460 --> 00:57:01,540
And I write, "Impossible."
1101
00:57:01,540 --> 00:57:02,820
NARRATOR: Details
of this sighting
1102
00:57:02,820 --> 00:57:04,840
were first made
public when this Air
1103
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:08,320
Force memo was obtained through
the Freedom of Information Act.
1104
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:11,190
It states, "The
object was described
1105
00:57:11,190 --> 00:57:14,510
as being triangular in
shape, approximately two
1106
00:57:14,510 --> 00:57:17,440
to three meters across
the base and approximately
1107
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:19,090
two meters high.
1108
00:57:19,090 --> 00:57:23,470
It had a red light on top and a
bank of blue lights underneath.
1109
00:57:23,470 --> 00:57:25,240
As the patrolman
approached the object,
1110
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:28,820
it maneuvered through the
trees and disappeared."
1111
00:57:28,820 --> 00:57:30,870
This Air Force memo
was written by Deputy
1112
00:57:30,870 --> 00:57:33,550
Base Commander Charles Halt.
1113
00:57:33,550 --> 00:57:35,610
General Gordon Williams,
who was commander
1114
00:57:35,610 --> 00:57:39,520
of the base at the time, denies
either seeing or authorizing
1115
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:41,360
the release of this memo.
1116
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:44,390
In a tape recording presented
to General Williams, Airman
1117
00:57:44,390 --> 00:57:47,860
Burroughs questions how
a story of this magnitude
1118
00:57:47,860 --> 00:57:49,000
could escape his oversight,
1119
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:50,970
JOHN BURROUGHS (ON TAPE): How
did Colonel Halt's memo go up
1120
00:57:50,970 --> 00:57:53,990
without you knowing
about it and reviewing
1121
00:57:53,990 --> 00:57:55,360
it and allowing it to happen?
1122
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:56,730
Anything that left
that base and then was
1123
00:57:56,730 --> 00:57:58,480
significant to have
warned government
1124
00:57:58,480 --> 00:57:59,860
would have to be cleared by you.
1125
00:57:59,860 --> 00:58:00,930
MALE INTERVIEWER: You hear that?
1126
00:58:00,930 --> 00:58:01,910
Yeah, I did.
1127
00:58:01,910 --> 00:58:04,010
Let me answer that last
part about that memo.
1128
00:58:04,010 --> 00:58:04,710
MALE INTERVIEWER: OK.
1129
00:58:04,710 --> 00:58:06,720
Yeah, I agree.
1130
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:08,960
That went under the door
and I didn't see it.
1131
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:09,660
No.
1132
00:58:09,660 --> 00:58:11,420
Did he have a motivation
in doing that?
1133
00:58:11,420 --> 00:58:13,560
Did he think that if
he brought it in to me,
1134
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:15,350
I would have stepped on it?
1135
00:58:15,350 --> 00:58:17,770
I certainly would have looked
at it very carefully, because it
1136
00:58:17,770 --> 00:58:20,290
had some things in
there that I don't think
1137
00:58:20,290 --> 00:58:23,240
we were prepared to defend.
1138
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:24,420
NARRATOR: Lieutenant
Colonel Halt
1139
00:58:24,420 --> 00:58:27,840
was most likely motivated to
write this memo because he too
1140
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:29,920
was a witness to a
second occurrence,
1141
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:33,670
as himself states at the
bottom of the document--
1142
00:58:33,670 --> 00:58:37,130
"Numerous individuals, including
the undersigned, witnessed
1143
00:58:37,130 --> 00:58:41,990
the activities," signed Charles
I Halt, Lieutenant Colonel,
1144
00:58:41,990 --> 00:58:45,220
United States Air Force.
1145
00:58:45,220 --> 00:58:47,940
He captured the encounter
on his pocket tape recorder.
1146
00:59:04,630 --> 00:59:06,430
I believe that he went
out there to debunk
1147
00:59:06,430 --> 00:59:09,210
the whole situation
and I think he
1148
00:59:09,210 --> 00:59:14,900
got in the middle of a situation
he couldn't explain either.
1149
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:19,760
He came toward us.
1150
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:22,140
It stopped overhead
and sent out a beam.
1151
00:59:22,140 --> 00:59:24,230
Now, the beam wasn't
like an ordinary beam
1152
00:59:24,230 --> 00:59:25,410
of light that radiates out.
1153
00:59:25,410 --> 00:59:28,020
It was a focused beam, like a
laser beam, that illuminated
1154
00:59:28,020 --> 00:59:29,770
the ground in a small
circle, probably
1155
00:59:29,770 --> 00:59:30,920
two foot or so in diameter.
1156
00:59:38,980 --> 00:59:41,450
When I gave the tape that
I made to my superior,
1157
00:59:41,450 --> 00:59:44,110
he took and played
it to 3rd Air Force,
1158
00:59:44,110 --> 00:59:46,650
to the commander and
the staff, and they all
1159
00:59:46,650 --> 00:59:47,350
scratched their head.
1160
00:59:47,350 --> 00:59:49,210
And the answer finally
was, it's a British affair.
1161
00:59:49,210 --> 00:59:49,910
Leave it with him.
1162
00:59:49,910 --> 00:59:51,320
Give it back to them.
1163
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:54,010
Hence I wrote the memo
that has become public.
1164
00:59:54,010 --> 00:59:57,410
I think that Halt was
definitely wrong in doing that.
1165
00:59:57,410 --> 01:00:01,600
Once that cat was
out of the bag,
1166
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:04,280
you know, I couldn't put Humpty
Dumpty back together again
1167
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:08,700
and it lived its own life.
1168
01:00:08,700 --> 01:00:10,240
NARRATOR: What did
happen over a period
1169
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:12,160
of three days at Bentwaters?
1170
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:16,210
Did a UFO actually land at
a US Air Base in England?
1171
01:00:16,210 --> 01:00:18,810
That is one explanation,
that it actually happened
1172
01:00:18,810 --> 01:00:21,490
as Colonel Halt reported.
1173
01:00:21,490 --> 01:00:26,270
The other explanation
is that it didn't.
1174
01:00:26,270 --> 01:00:31,170
And in that case, one is bound
to assume that's Colonel Halt
1175
01:00:31,170 --> 01:00:34,460
and all his men
were hallucinating.
1176
01:00:34,460 --> 01:00:36,530
NARRATOR: The British
Ministry of Defense's position
1177
01:00:36,530 --> 01:00:38,680
is that nothing that
took place at Bentwaters
1178
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:40,880
was of any defense interest.
1179
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:43,700
This view is criticized by
former Chief of the Defense
1180
01:00:43,700 --> 01:00:46,860
Staff Admiral Lord Hill Norton.
1181
01:00:46,860 --> 01:00:52,780
That the colonel of an American
Air Force Base in Suffolk
1182
01:00:52,780 --> 01:00:56,020
and his merry men are
hallucinating when there
1183
01:00:56,020 --> 01:00:59,200
are nuclear-armed
aircraft on the base
1184
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:01,260
must be of defense interest.
1185
01:01:01,260 --> 01:01:04,900
If indeed what he says took
place, did take place--
1186
01:01:04,900 --> 01:01:07,540
and why on earth
should he make it up--
1187
01:01:07,540 --> 01:01:13,080
then surely the entry of a
vehicle from outer space,
1188
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:15,900
certainly not
man-made, to a defense
1189
01:01:15,900 --> 01:01:20,700
base in this country also cannot
fail to be of defense interest.
1190
01:01:20,700 --> 01:01:22,940
The public position at
the Ministry of Defense
1191
01:01:22,940 --> 01:01:27,260
is that UFOs pose no threat
to the defense of the realm.
1192
01:01:27,260 --> 01:01:29,500
Well, I quite understand
such statements--
1193
01:01:29,500 --> 01:01:31,600
and indeed, during
my tour of duty,
1194
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:34,160
I probably wrote
statements like that.
1195
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:37,910
NARRATOR: From 1992 to
1995, the British government
1196
01:01:37,910 --> 01:01:42,040
employed Nick Pope to
investigate UFO reports.
1197
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:44,510
He now differs with
their position.
1198
01:01:44,510 --> 01:01:46,200
While it's true
to say that there's
1199
01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:49,800
been no overt hostile
action, it certainly
1200
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:52,890
seems to me premature
to say that there
1201
01:01:52,890 --> 01:01:55,090
is nothing of any
defense significance
1202
01:01:55,090 --> 01:01:57,760
when you don't
know what they are.
1203
01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:02,230
They claim that something from
outside the Earth's atmosphere
1204
01:02:02,230 --> 01:02:05,000
landed at their Air Force base.
1205
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:06,960
They went and stood by it.
1206
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:07,980
They inspected it.
1207
01:02:07,980 --> 01:02:08,770
They photographed.
1208
01:02:08,770 --> 01:02:09,470
It.
1209
01:02:09,470 --> 01:02:12,160
The following day, they
took tests on the ground
1210
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:15,370
where it had been and
found radioactive traces.
1211
01:02:34,770 --> 01:02:37,580
When we went back out there
in the area the next morning,
1212
01:02:37,580 --> 01:02:40,060
after we got off duty, and
found areas where something was
1213
01:02:40,060 --> 01:02:42,020
damaged, that's when we
were even more, like, what's
1214
01:02:42,020 --> 01:02:43,460
going on, you know?
1215
01:02:43,460 --> 01:02:48,630
I think it's fairly well known
that Colonel Halt and his team
1216
01:02:48,630 --> 01:02:51,650
examined the landing
site very carefully,
1217
01:02:51,650 --> 01:02:56,950
both the damage to the trees
and the three indentations
1218
01:02:56,950 --> 01:03:00,060
found on the forest floor
where this metallic craft
1219
01:03:00,060 --> 01:03:01,830
was seen to land.
1220
01:03:01,830 --> 01:03:04,910
Jim went back two days
later and made plaster casts.
1221
01:03:04,910 --> 01:03:05,860
You can see the size.
1222
01:03:05,860 --> 01:03:07,410
It's approximately
8 to 10 inches
1223
01:03:07,410 --> 01:03:12,420
across and about three inches
deep at the maximum point.
1224
01:03:12,420 --> 01:03:13,880
This is cast number two.
1225
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:16,830
He made an impression of all
three of the indentations,
1226
01:03:16,830 --> 01:03:19,060
and they were all identical.
1227
01:03:19,060 --> 01:03:21,050
NARRATOR: The United
States Air Force position
1228
01:03:21,050 --> 01:03:23,260
is that there was a
sighting on the base
1229
01:03:23,260 --> 01:03:25,480
witnessed by both
high-ranking officers
1230
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:27,740
and base security police.
1231
01:03:27,740 --> 01:03:30,570
However, according to the
United States Air Force,
1232
01:03:30,570 --> 01:03:33,360
military personnel mistook
a stationary lighthouse
1233
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:35,560
for a UFO.
1234
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:40,590
I was told to sign
some paperwork stating
1235
01:03:40,590 --> 01:03:43,990
that what I saw
out there was just
1236
01:03:43,990 --> 01:03:47,790
the beacon that was out
there and that there was
1237
01:03:47,790 --> 01:03:50,270
nothing out of the ordinary.
1238
01:03:50,270 --> 01:03:53,130
A 45-minute investigation
on the ground
1239
01:03:53,130 --> 01:03:55,650
with a craft that you're
touching and feeling
1240
01:03:55,650 --> 01:03:59,330
and observing and
doing a walk around,
1241
01:03:59,330 --> 01:04:01,210
to be confused with
lights in the sky
1242
01:04:01,210 --> 01:04:05,610
or a lighthouse or--
it's just totally absurd.
1243
01:04:05,610 --> 01:04:06,840
Lighthouses don't fly.
1244
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:08,560
They don't go up,
they don't go back.
1245
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:10,340
I mean, you know?
1246
01:04:10,340 --> 01:04:12,910
And then you could say, well,
if you were a half a mile away
1247
01:04:12,910 --> 01:04:14,040
and you thought
something moved up
1248
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:16,320
and the beacon was still-- the
fact is, we were right on top
1249
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:18,870
of whatever was right there,
so there's no way that
1250
01:04:18,870 --> 01:04:20,330
was a lighthouse beacon.
1251
01:04:20,330 --> 01:04:25,180
Three competent Air
Force guys saw it,
1252
01:04:25,180 --> 01:04:27,590
told not to ever talk about it.
1253
01:04:27,590 --> 01:04:30,140
NARRATOR: Georgina Bruni has
been researching the Bentwaters
1254
01:04:30,140 --> 01:04:32,500
Incident for over five years.
1255
01:04:32,500 --> 01:04:34,660
Her book, "You Can't
Tell the People,"
1256
01:04:34,660 --> 01:04:37,350
is the definitive
account of this case.
1257
01:04:37,350 --> 01:04:40,020
In May of 2001, she
was one of the first
1258
01:04:40,020 --> 01:04:43,190
to receive a number of
previously classified documents
1259
01:04:43,190 --> 01:04:46,870
from the Ministry of Defense
about the Bentwaters Incident.
1260
01:04:46,870 --> 01:04:49,290
These documents are known
as the Rendlesham Files.
1261
01:04:49,290 --> 01:04:52,380
In one of the first
documents in the file,
1262
01:04:52,380 --> 01:04:58,070
we have now, in black and
white, that General Gabriel, who
1263
01:04:58,070 --> 01:05:01,560
was the chief of the United
States Air Force in Europe,
1264
01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:04,240
was handed taped evidence.
1265
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:05,580
NARRATOR: Why would
General Gabriel,
1266
01:05:05,580 --> 01:05:07,970
one of the most important
members of the US military
1267
01:05:07,970 --> 01:05:11,130
in Europe, be handed
evidence for the incident
1268
01:05:11,130 --> 01:05:14,060
unless it was of
extreme significance?
1269
01:05:14,060 --> 01:05:16,170
You had the largest attack
fighter wing in the United
1270
01:05:16,170 --> 01:05:17,880
States Air Force, OK?
1271
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:19,660
Through the British,
they released documents
1272
01:05:19,660 --> 01:05:22,720
admitting that General
Gabriel came down and took
1273
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:24,510
all the information,
and it's proven
1274
01:05:24,510 --> 01:05:25,780
that this stuff disappeared.
1275
01:05:25,780 --> 01:05:27,440
Where did all the reports go?
1276
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:29,460
You know, we had got
General Gabriel out there,
1277
01:05:29,460 --> 01:05:34,470
we had-- who was the top
Air Force general in Europe,
1278
01:05:34,470 --> 01:05:36,270
there three days later.
1279
01:05:36,270 --> 01:05:37,990
Why was he there?
1280
01:05:37,990 --> 01:05:40,600
Well, he's there to
manage what was going on.
1281
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:42,100
He was there for
information control.
1282
01:05:42,100 --> 01:05:44,480
He was there to obtain evidence.
1283
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:49,180
He was there for all that stuff
that they're denying happened.
1284
01:05:49,180 --> 01:05:51,550
The other significant
factor is that this
1285
01:05:51,550 --> 01:05:53,470
is not ufologists talking here.
1286
01:05:53,470 --> 01:05:56,720
We have the Defense
Intelligence staff carrying out
1287
01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:59,670
their own investigation
and admitting
1288
01:05:59,670 --> 01:06:03,970
that the radiation readings were
10 times higher than normal.
1289
01:06:03,970 --> 01:06:06,040
NARRATOR: One other document
released in the Rendlesham
1290
01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:10,190
Files is this defensive
press line issued by the MOD
1291
01:06:10,190 --> 01:06:12,030
instructing the
authorities how they
1292
01:06:12,030 --> 01:06:13,960
should respond to the media.
1293
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:17,220
It states that, "MOD was
satisfied that there was
1294
01:06:17,220 --> 01:06:21,660
nothing of defense interest" and
"there was no question of any
1295
01:06:21,660 --> 01:06:24,350
contact with 'alien beings.'"
1296
01:06:24,350 --> 01:06:27,850
We were told not to talk
about it, so we didn't.
1297
01:06:27,850 --> 01:06:33,470
What we saw out there was
definitely unidentifiable.
1298
01:06:33,470 --> 01:06:35,940
What I saw did not appear
to be man-made it was way
1299
01:06:35,940 --> 01:06:38,010
beyond any technology
we had at the time,
1300
01:06:38,010 --> 01:06:39,410
and probably even do today.
1301
01:06:39,410 --> 01:06:41,530
I could never
identify what it was.
1302
01:06:41,530 --> 01:06:43,740
It's why I've always
called it a UFO.
1303
01:06:43,740 --> 01:06:52,190
I can say without a doubt
that we're probably not alone.
1304
01:06:59,190 --> 01:07:02,160
NARRATOR: In the southwest of
England, just outside Somerset,
1305
01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:03,280
there was another sighting.
1306
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:05,630
It was captured on videotape.
1307
01:07:05,630 --> 01:07:07,730
MAN 1 (ON TAPE): Got it.
1308
01:07:07,730 --> 01:07:09,330
Got it.
1309
01:07:09,330 --> 01:07:11,060
MAN 2 (ON TAPE): Yeah, I
think it's coming this way.
1310
01:07:11,060 --> 01:07:11,890
Yeah.
1311
01:07:11,890 --> 01:07:13,090
MAN 1 (ON TAPE):
Yeah, I can see it.
1312
01:07:15,750 --> 01:07:16,520
MAN 2 (ON TAPE): Is it?
1313
01:07:20,930 --> 01:07:22,170
It is.
1314
01:07:22,170 --> 01:07:23,960
MAN 1 (ON TAPE): That's amazing.
1315
01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:26,800
The UFO that you
saw originally was
1316
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:30,810
spotted approximately
about 200 yards
1317
01:07:30,810 --> 01:07:33,060
to the left of the aerial mast.
1318
01:07:33,060 --> 01:07:37,690
And I suppose it was probably
at about 500 feet up.
1319
01:07:37,690 --> 01:07:38,450
It was very low--
1320
01:07:38,450 --> 01:07:39,250
MALE INTERVIEWER: Right.
1321
01:07:39,250 --> 01:07:40,390
DAVID KINGSTON: --in the sky.
1322
01:07:40,390 --> 01:07:41,720
MALE INTERVIEWER: And this is
a radio communications tower?
1323
01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:43,640
DAVID KINGSTON: This is
our radio communications.
1324
01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:47,180
They've got three
military masts on there.
1325
01:07:47,180 --> 01:07:52,180
And it sends out-- one
is a navigational signal,
1326
01:07:52,180 --> 01:07:54,280
which is used for aircraft.
1327
01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:56,800
The other two aerials
are near the top.
1328
01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:59,810
We're not quite sure, but
there is a pulsed frequency
1329
01:07:59,810 --> 01:08:01,450
that comes from them.
1330
01:08:08,770 --> 01:08:12,100
The actual UFO, from
the time it was first
1331
01:08:12,100 --> 01:08:16,130
seen by Rod Dickinson,
who did the filming,
1332
01:08:16,130 --> 01:08:18,290
it lasted approximately
12 minutes.
1333
01:08:18,290 --> 01:08:21,930
So it was quite a long
period of time for a daylight
1334
01:08:21,930 --> 01:08:24,550
sighting to occur.
1335
01:08:24,550 --> 01:08:27,280
NARRATOR: We took this tape
to be analyzed by Lucasfilms'
1336
01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:30,280
special effects division,
Industrial Light & Magic
1337
01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:33,080
in San Rafael, California.
1338
01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:36,000
Here we met with Bill George,
an Academy Award winning
1339
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:37,970
visual effects supervisor.
1340
01:08:37,970 --> 01:08:40,290
Over the last 20 years,
his special effects
1341
01:08:40,290 --> 01:08:42,120
have been featured
in films like "Star
1342
01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:44,180
Wars-- The Phantom Menace."
1343
01:08:44,180 --> 01:08:46,590
The optical zoom
certainly would--
1344
01:08:46,590 --> 01:08:47,790
NARRATOR: He
analyzed this footage
1345
01:08:47,790 --> 01:08:49,530
to determine its authenticity.
1346
01:08:49,530 --> 01:08:50,920
BILL GEORGE: But there
are several things
1347
01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:53,150
that I see when the
footage is running
1348
01:08:53,150 --> 01:08:55,060
that tells me that
this was actually
1349
01:08:55,060 --> 01:08:56,580
there when this was filmed.
1350
01:08:56,580 --> 01:08:59,280
First of all, it's
the shake, the shake.
1351
01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:01,490
If you were to give me a
background plate of just
1352
01:09:01,490 --> 01:09:04,080
this sky and say, we want you
to take this image of a flying
1353
01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:07,090
saucer and match it in, that
something that's technically
1354
01:09:07,090 --> 01:09:08,790
very difficult to
do because you have
1355
01:09:08,790 --> 01:09:10,770
to match-- putting the
two elements together,
1356
01:09:10,770 --> 01:09:12,900
you have to match the shake.
1357
01:09:12,900 --> 01:09:15,400
Now, certainly, we have
computers that can track that,
1358
01:09:15,400 --> 01:09:17,500
but this is just-- this
is all over the map.
1359
01:09:17,500 --> 01:09:20,670
A couple other cues that tell
me that this is actually there
1360
01:09:20,670 --> 01:09:23,190
when it was being filmed
was that is going in and out
1361
01:09:23,190 --> 01:09:26,890
of focus with the background
because the camera is
1362
01:09:26,890 --> 01:09:28,720
trying to compensate
and trying to focus.
1363
01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:30,470
It probably has some
sort of autofocus.
1364
01:09:30,470 --> 01:09:32,070
So the background
is going in and out
1365
01:09:32,070 --> 01:09:34,990
of focus along with the object.
1366
01:09:34,990 --> 01:09:37,350
There are these dark things
flying through frame,
1367
01:09:37,350 --> 01:09:39,040
and if someone was to
have to put that in there,
1368
01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:41,430
they would have to composite
it in behind the birds.
1369
01:09:41,430 --> 01:09:43,200
It would be a technical problem.
1370
01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:45,820
NARRATOR: Bill George couldn't
say it was a real UFO,
1371
01:09:45,820 --> 01:09:48,160
but he could confirm
for us that the object
1372
01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:49,810
was not added in later.
1373
01:09:49,810 --> 01:09:51,810
Given those clues,
I'm convinced
1374
01:09:51,810 --> 01:09:56,790
that this object was there
when this person was taping.
1375
01:09:56,790 --> 01:09:59,050
NARRATOR: In 1968,
the UFO subject
1376
01:09:59,050 --> 01:10:02,560
was being debated at the
highest levels of government.
1377
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:04,630
The debate was triggered
by a major sighting
1378
01:10:04,630 --> 01:10:05,990
over the state of Michigan.
1379
01:10:05,990 --> 01:10:07,520
[BEEPING]
1380
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:09,810
And I could see the
lights on either side.
1381
01:10:09,810 --> 01:10:11,470
And then the red light
was sort of casting
1382
01:10:11,470 --> 01:10:15,490
a glow over the whole thing,
so it looked like a round disc.
1383
01:10:15,490 --> 01:10:16,730
When it got to the
top of the trees,
1384
01:10:16,730 --> 01:10:20,750
it stopped, and a blue and
a white light come on it.
1385
01:10:20,750 --> 01:10:21,450
Good evening.
1386
01:10:21,450 --> 01:10:24,700
NARRATOR: Walter Cronkite
reported the incident on CBS.
1387
01:10:24,700 --> 01:10:26,730
WALTER CRONKITE: Residents
of the area saw it.
1388
01:10:26,730 --> 01:10:28,280
The police saw it.
1389
01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:30,430
Sergeant Newell Schneider
of the Sheriff's office
1390
01:10:30,430 --> 01:10:32,750
remembered it well
enough to draw it.
1391
01:10:32,750 --> 01:10:34,130
MALE REPORTER: What
do you think it was?
1392
01:10:34,130 --> 01:10:35,930
NEWELL SCHNEIDER: Oh, if
they call it a flying saucer,
1393
01:10:35,930 --> 01:10:37,410
that's what it is.
1394
01:10:37,410 --> 01:10:38,890
The Air Force sent
its consultant,
1395
01:10:38,890 --> 01:10:43,440
Allen Hynek in to review
what had been going on.
1396
01:10:43,440 --> 01:10:48,900
And Hynek, after about one
or two days in the field,
1397
01:10:48,900 --> 01:10:50,480
had to face a big
press conference.
1398
01:10:50,480 --> 01:10:52,860
He said, well, I don't
know what was going on.
1399
01:10:52,860 --> 01:10:56,050
It may have been marsh gas.
1400
01:10:56,050 --> 01:10:58,490
A little bit of swamp
light appears here.
1401
01:10:58,490 --> 01:10:59,190
It goes out.
1402
01:10:59,190 --> 01:11:00,480
Another one appears over here.
1403
01:11:00,480 --> 01:11:01,530
That goes out then.
1404
01:11:01,530 --> 01:11:03,990
But the illusion as
viewed from a distance
1405
01:11:03,990 --> 01:11:06,610
is that the objects have
moved back and forth.
1406
01:11:06,610 --> 01:11:09,430
The public was
absolutely furious
1407
01:11:09,430 --> 01:11:11,650
and the press kind
of made fun of it.
1408
01:11:11,650 --> 01:11:18,100
And Congressman Ford of Michigan
thought he would take action,
1409
01:11:18,100 --> 01:11:21,360
and he calls for public
hearings by the Armed
1410
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:23,480
Services Committee.
1411
01:11:23,480 --> 01:11:25,390
This matter should be brought--
1412
01:11:25,390 --> 01:11:27,690
NARRATOR: In an exclusive
telephone interview,
1413
01:11:27,690 --> 01:11:31,080
the late President Gerald
Ford confirmed his involvement
1414
01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:31,780
in the investigation.
1415
01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:46,700
NARRATOR: Congress
heard testimony
1416
01:11:46,700 --> 01:11:48,530
from a number of witnesses.
1417
01:11:48,530 --> 01:11:51,020
Former Marine Corps
Major Donald Keyhoe
1418
01:11:51,020 --> 01:11:54,680
asserted that there was far
more to UFOs that swamp gas.
1419
01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:56,060
In fact, the Air
Force at one time
1420
01:11:56,060 --> 01:11:57,940
had a top secret estimate
that these things
1421
01:11:57,940 --> 01:12:00,570
were interplanetary spaceships.
1422
01:12:00,570 --> 01:12:03,020
Today, we have
over 10,000 cases
1423
01:12:03,020 --> 01:12:07,430
at Wright-Patterson Air Force
Base, of which 646 of these
1424
01:12:07,430 --> 01:12:09,020
remain unidentified.
1425
01:12:09,020 --> 01:12:12,010
The Air Force has been accused
from time to time of hiding
1426
01:12:12,010 --> 01:12:13,620
information about UFO.
1427
01:12:13,620 --> 01:12:15,550
What do you have to say
to that, Colonel Tacker?
1428
01:12:15,550 --> 01:12:18,310
Well, these charges
are absolutely untrue.
1429
01:12:18,310 --> 01:12:19,940
NARRATOR: The Air Force
continued to maintain
1430
01:12:19,940 --> 01:12:21,620
that it was hiding nothing.
1431
01:12:21,620 --> 01:12:24,050
And we've always honored
the accredited media
1432
01:12:24,050 --> 01:12:27,720
when they want to investigate
a given specific sighting.
1433
01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:28,850
TV HOST: There is
nothing to hide?
1434
01:12:28,850 --> 01:12:31,150
There is nothing
to hide at all.
1435
01:12:31,150 --> 01:12:34,930
Now, this is not an attack
on the Air Force spokesman
1436
01:12:34,930 --> 01:12:36,600
or the project spokesman.
1437
01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:41,770
They are simply following
orders to explain away all UFO
1438
01:12:41,770 --> 01:12:45,680
sightings as quickly as
possible when they become public
1439
01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:49,160
and deny that UFOs really exist.
1440
01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:51,320
So it was pressure
from Congress
1441
01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:57,620
that led to the study that ended
up not being an open study that
1442
01:12:57,620 --> 01:12:58,970
was a few days long.
1443
01:12:58,970 --> 01:13:01,940
It ended up by being a project
given to a university that
1444
01:13:01,940 --> 01:13:04,890
lasted 18 months.
1445
01:13:04,890 --> 01:13:06,060
NARRATOR: In an
effort to maintain
1446
01:13:06,060 --> 01:13:08,230
a neutral investigation,
it was assigned
1447
01:13:08,230 --> 01:13:09,440
to the University of Colorado.
1448
01:13:12,150 --> 01:13:15,610
The university gathered a
team of 11 eminent scientists.
1449
01:13:15,610 --> 01:13:18,470
They were to analyze and make
public their conclusions of
1450
01:13:18,470 --> 01:13:20,230
the most compelling UFO cases.
1451
01:13:23,530 --> 01:13:26,730
As reported in a 1968
feature article published
1452
01:13:26,730 --> 01:13:29,320
by "Look" magazine,
the university study
1453
01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:32,390
was doomed from the beginning.
1454
01:13:32,390 --> 01:13:34,840
The project leader,
Dr. Edward Condon,
1455
01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:37,780
appeared to be biased
from the start.
1456
01:13:37,780 --> 01:13:42,270
In February of 1967, he
stated, "My attitude right now
1457
01:13:42,270 --> 01:13:45,350
is that there's nothing to it."
1458
01:13:45,350 --> 01:13:47,120
He added, "But I'm
not supposed to reach
1459
01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:51,120
a conclusion for another year."
1460
01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:54,150
The "Look" article goes on to
describe how two scientists
1461
01:13:54,150 --> 01:13:56,780
were fired over a leaked
memo written by one
1462
01:13:56,780 --> 01:13:59,240
of the project's managers.
1463
01:13:59,240 --> 01:14:01,230
This memo dictated
what the project's
1464
01:14:01,230 --> 01:14:06,450
conclusions were to be before
the project even started.
1465
01:14:06,450 --> 01:14:09,180
The leaked memo read,
"The trick would be,
1466
01:14:09,180 --> 01:14:12,030
I think, to describe the
project so that, to the public,
1467
01:14:12,030 --> 01:14:14,640
it would appear a
totally objective study
1468
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:16,470
but, to the
scientific community,
1469
01:14:16,470 --> 01:14:19,060
would present the image of
a group of non-believers
1470
01:14:19,060 --> 01:14:21,030
trying their best
to be objective,
1471
01:14:21,030 --> 01:14:23,450
but having an almost
zero expectation
1472
01:14:23,450 --> 01:14:28,770
of finding a saucer."
1473
01:14:28,770 --> 01:14:32,390
When Representative J Edward
Roush read the leaked memo
1474
01:14:32,390 --> 01:14:35,650
and all the controversy
published by "Look" magazine,
1475
01:14:35,650 --> 01:14:38,510
he urged Congress to take
over the investigation
1476
01:14:38,510 --> 01:14:43,400
because he challenged the
objectivity of the study.
1477
01:14:43,400 --> 01:14:46,730
His plea was ignored.
1478
01:14:46,730 --> 01:14:48,810
Left unchecked, the
project chairman
1479
01:14:48,810 --> 01:14:51,890
announced the conclusions to
the anxiously waiting press.
1480
01:14:55,140 --> 01:14:56,900
Dr. Condon stated
that "nothing has
1481
01:14:56,900 --> 01:14:58,890
come from the study
of UFOs that has
1482
01:14:58,890 --> 01:15:02,950
added to scientific knowledge."
1483
01:15:02,950 --> 01:15:07,270
It is not a fair
and accurate summary
1484
01:15:07,270 --> 01:15:11,100
of the body of the report,
which a summary should be.
1485
01:15:11,100 --> 01:15:13,770
NARRATOR: Three decades
later, Dr. Peter Sturrock
1486
01:15:13,770 --> 01:15:16,560
an astrophysicist from
Stanford University,
1487
01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:19,160
takes a close look at some
of the case studies never
1488
01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:21,480
mentioned in Condon's summary.
1489
01:15:21,480 --> 01:15:24,560
The Condon Report is
really a complex document.
1490
01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:27,520
If you're looking for what they
thought were wild goose chases,
1491
01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:29,030
you'll find those.
1492
01:15:29,030 --> 01:15:30,600
If you're looking
to see whether there
1493
01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:34,990
any intriguing cases that were
really challenges to the staff,
1494
01:15:34,990 --> 01:15:36,220
you'll find them.
1495
01:15:36,220 --> 01:15:38,900
And if you want to see whether
the staff thought anything
1496
01:15:38,900 --> 01:15:41,310
was what they called,
quote, "a real UFO,"
1497
01:15:41,310 --> 01:15:43,110
you'll find that too.
1498
01:15:43,110 --> 01:15:45,720
There are two regular
visual cases analyzed
1499
01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:47,010
by McDonald and Thayer.
1500
01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:06,780
NARRATOR: Another case
summary was that--
1501
01:16:14,620 --> 01:16:17,380
PETER STURROCK: And there
are two photographic cases
1502
01:16:17,380 --> 01:16:20,810
analyzed by William Hartmann who
he thought were possible UFOs.
1503
01:16:43,820 --> 01:16:45,120
PETER STURROCK: But
they do not feature
1504
01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:46,850
at all in Condon's summary.
1505
01:16:46,850 --> 01:16:49,510
The part that most
people read, the part
1506
01:16:49,510 --> 01:16:52,950
that the press referred
to, were the few pages
1507
01:16:52,950 --> 01:16:56,980
of recommendations
and about one chapter,
1508
01:16:56,980 --> 01:16:59,310
a short chapter of
summary, that were
1509
01:16:59,310 --> 01:17:02,350
written entirely by Condon.
1510
01:17:02,350 --> 01:17:03,730
NARRATOR: While the
panel of scientists
1511
01:17:03,730 --> 01:17:06,550
conducted an objective
investigation as requested
1512
01:17:06,550 --> 01:17:08,990
by Congress, the
project leader appeared
1513
01:17:08,990 --> 01:17:11,600
to have ignored the data
and asserted that there was
1514
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:13,060
nothing to the UFO phenomena.
1515
01:17:16,350 --> 01:17:19,730
On December 18, 1969,
the New York Times
1516
01:17:19,730 --> 01:17:23,610
quoted Dr. Condon saying it "was
a bunch of damned nonsense,"
1517
01:17:23,610 --> 01:17:25,690
and that he was sorry
that he "ever got involved
1518
01:17:25,690 --> 01:17:29,010
with such foolishness."
1519
01:17:29,010 --> 01:17:32,800
Condon's 30-year-old conclusions
are still being used today
1520
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:35,260
as a benchmark to
prevent further official
1521
01:17:35,260 --> 01:17:36,320
scientific investigation.
1522
01:17:40,650 --> 01:17:43,230
One of the problems
with so-called UFO
1523
01:17:43,230 --> 01:17:46,360
research by debunkers is
they ask the wrong question.
1524
01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:48,490
Their question
is, what are UFOs?
1525
01:17:48,490 --> 01:17:51,770
Really what they're saying is,
are all UFOs alien spacecraft?
1526
01:17:51,770 --> 01:17:53,600
And the answer,
of course, is no.
1527
01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:56,380
The proper question is, are any?
1528
01:17:56,380 --> 01:17:59,850
[MUSIC PLAYING]
1529
01:18:19,190 --> 01:18:22,670
MAN 1 (ON TAPE):
[SPEAKING PORTUGUESE]
1530
01:18:22,670 --> 01:18:24,150
WOMAN (ON TAPE):
[SPEAKING PORTUGUESE]
1531
01:18:24,150 --> 01:18:27,630
MAN 1 (ON TAPE):
[SPEAKING PORTUGUESE]
1532
01:18:27,630 --> 01:18:30,110
MAN 2 (ON TAPE):
[SPEAKING PORTUGUESE]
1533
01:18:52,030 --> 01:18:54,300
It was, you know-- it
was shaped like a saucer.
1534
01:18:54,300 --> 01:18:56,680
I hate to use those
trite terms, but that's
1535
01:18:56,680 --> 01:18:57,890
what it was shaped like.
1536
01:18:57,890 --> 01:19:00,840
I looked up and all of
a sudden there was this,
1537
01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:04,640
you know-- gotta say
it, flying saucer,
1538
01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:08,020
you know, kind of
looking like it was
1539
01:19:08,020 --> 01:19:10,100
not particularly far above us.
1540
01:19:10,100 --> 01:19:12,970
If you look at tree
limb, it seems to me
1541
01:19:12,970 --> 01:19:16,660
that when it floated across
the road, it was to just about
1542
01:19:16,660 --> 01:19:17,640
that far away.
1543
01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:18,950
You saw that it
was actually moving,
1544
01:19:18,950 --> 01:19:20,600
but the fact was it
just went-- zoom!
1545
01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:22,140
And it was just gone.
1546
01:19:22,140 --> 01:19:25,860
Nothing we had
at the time could
1547
01:19:25,860 --> 01:19:29,200
fit the description,
size, shape,
1548
01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:32,920
or performance of this craft.
1549
01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:35,910
MAN (ON TAPE):
[SPEAKING SPANISH]
1550
01:19:42,580 --> 01:19:45,730
[MUSIC PLAYING]
1551
01:20:02,490 --> 01:20:04,390
NARRATOR: It appears
that many people in power
1552
01:20:04,390 --> 01:20:08,230
are being kept out of the loop
regarding the UFO phenomenon.
1553
01:20:08,230 --> 01:20:10,450
At the same time,
covert operations
1554
01:20:10,450 --> 01:20:13,400
being conducted by the
military-industrial complex
1555
01:20:13,400 --> 01:20:15,920
seemed to have escaped
government supervision.
1556
01:20:19,150 --> 01:20:21,070
In the councils
of government, we
1557
01:20:21,070 --> 01:20:23,390
must guard against
the acquisition
1558
01:20:23,390 --> 01:20:27,080
of unwarranted influence,
whether sought or unsought,
1559
01:20:27,080 --> 01:20:30,450
by the military-industrial
complex.
1560
01:20:30,450 --> 01:20:32,240
NARRATOR: In his farewell
address to the nation,
1561
01:20:32,240 --> 01:20:34,370
President Eisenhower
cautioned the public
1562
01:20:34,370 --> 01:20:36,970
about the relationship
between the US military
1563
01:20:36,970 --> 01:20:39,920
and the industrial sector
which supplies the military
1564
01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:42,190
with weaponry and equipment.
1565
01:20:42,190 --> 01:20:44,750
Eisenhower felt that
if gone unchecked,
1566
01:20:44,750 --> 01:20:48,870
the military-industrial complex
would become too powerful.
1567
01:20:48,870 --> 01:20:51,010
The potential for
the disastrous rise
1568
01:20:51,010 --> 01:20:55,410
of misplaced power
exists and will persist.
1569
01:20:55,410 --> 01:20:57,920
We must never let the
weight of this combination
1570
01:20:57,920 --> 01:21:01,660
endanger our liberties
or democratic processes.
1571
01:21:01,660 --> 01:21:05,130
Well, I think he was telling us
the military-industrial complex
1572
01:21:05,130 --> 01:21:10,470
will stick you in the back if
you are not totally vigilant.
1573
01:21:10,470 --> 01:21:13,540
And I think he felt like
he had not be vigilant.
1574
01:21:13,540 --> 01:21:16,660
I think he felt like he
trusted too many people.
1575
01:21:16,660 --> 01:21:18,230
NARRATOR: Brigadier
General Stephen Lovekin
1576
01:21:18,230 --> 01:21:20,770
served under President
Eisenhower in the White
1577
01:21:20,770 --> 01:21:24,460
House Army Signaling Agency.
1578
01:21:24,460 --> 01:21:26,760
He recalls Eisenhower's
concern with the
1579
01:21:26,760 --> 01:21:29,250
military-industrial complex.
1580
01:21:29,250 --> 01:21:32,880
He realized that he
was losing control.
1581
01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:37,550
He realized that this, this--
the phenomenon of whatever
1582
01:21:37,550 --> 01:21:41,890
it was that we were
faced with was not
1583
01:21:41,890 --> 01:21:43,080
going to be in the best hands.
1584
01:21:43,080 --> 01:21:46,400
And that, that-- those were
the-- as far as I can remember,
1585
01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:49,730
that was the expression
that was used--
1586
01:21:49,730 --> 01:21:57,080
"It's not going to be
in the best hands."
1587
01:21:57,080 --> 01:21:59,690
NARRATOR: Almost as great as the
mystery surrounding the origin
1588
01:21:59,690 --> 01:22:03,540
of UFOs is the wall of denial
encountered even by the most
1589
01:22:03,540 --> 01:22:05,210
powerful citizens in the land.
1590
01:22:08,890 --> 01:22:11,600
In October of 1969,
President Jimmy
1591
01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:15,660
Carter, who was then governor
of Georgia, had a UFO sighting.
1592
01:22:15,660 --> 01:22:18,200
He filed a report with the
National Investigations
1593
01:22:18,200 --> 01:22:21,230
Committee on Aerial Phenomena.
1594
01:22:21,230 --> 01:22:23,140
In the report, he
described a sharply
1595
01:22:23,140 --> 01:22:26,500
outlined, self-luminous object
about the size of the moon.
1596
01:22:29,030 --> 01:22:33,930
It maneuvered silently
in front of 10 witnesses.
1597
01:22:33,930 --> 01:22:36,330
At a recent book tour,
we asked President Jimmy
1598
01:22:36,330 --> 01:22:38,630
Carter about his sighting.
1599
01:22:38,630 --> 01:22:39,680
What happened to--
1600
01:22:39,680 --> 01:22:42,100
MALE INTERVIEWER: The UFOs.
1601
01:22:42,100 --> 01:22:43,560
I don't really know
what happened to it.
1602
01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:46,180
I saw one, but I don't know
where-- it just disappeared.
1603
01:22:46,180 --> 01:22:47,670
MALE REPORTER: Well,
this is a first.
1604
01:22:47,670 --> 01:22:48,670
A president and--
1605
01:22:48,670 --> 01:22:50,820
NARRATOR: During Jimmy
Carter's presidential campaign,
1606
01:22:50,820 --> 01:22:55,710
he promised to make public what
the government knew about UFOs.
1607
01:22:55,710 --> 01:22:58,370
In an effort to fulfill this
promise, President Carter's
1608
01:22:58,370 --> 01:23:01,400
scientific adviser Frank
Press wrote a letter
1609
01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:04,010
requesting that NASA
lead the investigations
1610
01:23:04,010 --> 01:23:05,440
into the UFO phenomena.
1611
01:23:09,900 --> 01:23:11,980
When news of this
pending investigation
1612
01:23:11,980 --> 01:23:16,210
reached Air Force Colonel
Charles Senn, he wrote NASA.
1613
01:23:16,210 --> 01:23:18,610
In closing, he
stated, "I sincerely
1614
01:23:18,610 --> 01:23:21,300
hope you are successful
in preventing a reopening
1615
01:23:21,300 --> 01:23:25,780
of UFO investigations."
1616
01:23:25,780 --> 01:23:29,510
Whatever activity is going
on, to the extent that it is
1617
01:23:29,510 --> 01:23:32,820
a clandestine group, a
quasi-government group,
1618
01:23:32,820 --> 01:23:39,780
a quasi-private group,
it is without any type,
1619
01:23:39,780 --> 01:23:44,490
as far as I can tell, of high
level government oversight.
1620
01:23:44,490 --> 01:23:46,790
And that is a great concern.
1621
01:23:46,790 --> 01:23:49,740
NARRATOR: In December
of 1977, NASA officially
1622
01:23:49,740 --> 01:23:52,080
declined President
Carter's request,
1623
01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:55,290
proposing that it "take no
steps to establish a research
1624
01:23:55,290 --> 01:24:00,330
activity in this area."
1625
01:24:00,330 --> 01:24:02,160
MALE INTERVIEWER: Did you
ask when you were president--
1626
01:24:08,950 --> 01:24:10,920
[BEEPING]
1627
01:24:10,920 --> 01:24:12,990
MALE BROADCASTER (ON RADIO): The
American Broadcasting Company
1628
01:24:12,990 --> 01:24:14,680
and affiliated stations
present "Headline
1629
01:24:14,680 --> 01:24:16,340
Edition" with Taylor Grant.
1630
01:24:16,340 --> 01:24:18,220
TAYLOR GRANT (ON RADIO):
The 509th Atomic Bomb Group
1631
01:24:18,220 --> 01:24:21,420
headquarters at Roswell, New
Mexico reports that it has
1632
01:24:21,420 --> 01:24:24,120
received one of the discs,
which landed on a ranch
1633
01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:25,490
outside Roswell.
1634
01:24:25,490 --> 01:24:27,800
Colonel William Blanchard
of the Roswell air base
1635
01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:31,610
refuses to give details of what
the flying disc looks like.
1636
01:24:31,610 --> 01:24:33,870
NARRATOR: New Mexico
congressman Steven Schiff
1637
01:24:33,870 --> 01:24:36,930
was pressed by his constituents
into making inquiries
1638
01:24:36,930 --> 01:24:38,960
regarding the Roswell Incident.
1639
01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:40,870
I think a number of people
getting their information
1640
01:24:40,870 --> 01:24:45,260
from news stories-- not in
all cases, but in many cases--
1641
01:24:45,260 --> 01:24:47,840
are not getting all
of the information.
1642
01:24:47,840 --> 01:24:49,980
NARRATOR: In a 1997
radio interview,
1643
01:24:49,980 --> 01:24:52,580
he recalls what happened
when he made inquiries
1644
01:24:52,580 --> 01:24:53,760
with the Department of Defense.
1645
01:25:11,910 --> 01:25:14,320
NARRATOR: After a second attempt
with the Department of Defense,
1646
01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:16,160
Congressman Schiff
was again referred
1647
01:25:16,160 --> 01:25:17,210
to the National Archives.
1648
01:25:50,800 --> 01:25:53,690
NARRATOR: Evidently, former
director of the FBI J Edgar
1649
01:25:53,690 --> 01:25:56,710
Hoover was also denied
access, as he stated
1650
01:25:56,710 --> 01:26:00,750
in his own handwriting
in July of 1947--
1651
01:26:00,750 --> 01:26:04,800
"We must insist upon full
access to discs recovered."
1652
01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:06,790
Hoover continued,
"The Army grabbed
1653
01:26:06,790 --> 01:26:08,340
it and wouldn't
let the Bureau have
1654
01:26:08,340 --> 01:26:10,550
it for cursory examination."
1655
01:26:10,550 --> 01:26:13,840
[MUSIC PLAYING]
1656
01:26:16,670 --> 01:26:18,950
We will stand against
the forces of--
1657
01:26:18,950 --> 01:26:20,680
NARRATOR: A more recent
inquiry was apparently
1658
01:26:20,680 --> 01:26:22,590
made by President Bill Clinton.
1659
01:26:22,590 --> 01:26:25,410
Let us stand up
and talk against it.
1660
01:26:25,410 --> 01:26:27,180
NARRATOR: He asked
Associate Attorney General
1661
01:26:27,180 --> 01:26:30,650
Webster Hubbell to investigate.
1662
01:26:30,650 --> 01:26:34,640
Webb Hubbell and Bill
Clinton were old friends.
1663
01:26:34,640 --> 01:26:36,970
In his book, "Friends
in High Places,"
1664
01:26:36,970 --> 01:26:39,620
Hubbell recalls a special
favor that President Clinton
1665
01:26:39,620 --> 01:26:41,610
made after he first
came into office.
1666
01:26:45,800 --> 01:26:48,280
"'Webb,' he said, 'if I
put you over at Justice,
1667
01:26:48,280 --> 01:26:49,830
I want you to find
out the answers
1668
01:26:49,830 --> 01:26:51,180
to two questions for me.
1669
01:26:51,180 --> 01:26:53,090
One, who killed JFK?
1670
01:26:53,090 --> 01:26:57,220
And two, are there UFOs?'
He was dead serious."
1671
01:26:57,220 --> 01:26:59,940
Hubbell had looked into
both, but wasn't satisfied
1672
01:26:59,940 --> 01:27:03,530
with the answers he was getting.
1673
01:27:03,530 --> 01:27:06,940
When we asked Mr. Hubbell about
this incident, he replied--
1674
01:27:21,740 --> 01:27:23,770
NARRATOR: We contacted
President Bill Clinton
1675
01:27:23,770 --> 01:27:25,540
and received this letter.
1676
01:27:25,540 --> 01:27:28,820
It is a response from NASA
stating that "No government
1677
01:27:28,820 --> 01:27:33,120
agency is currently responsible
for investigating UFOs
1678
01:27:33,120 --> 01:27:35,050
because there is
no factual evidence
1679
01:27:35,050 --> 01:27:38,040
that alien life exists
on other planets
1680
01:27:38,040 --> 01:27:42,270
or that UFOs are
related to aliens."
1681
01:27:42,270 --> 01:27:43,700
See, this is what
you'd be up against.
1682
01:27:43,700 --> 01:27:44,800
Who are you gonna see?
1683
01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:46,400
The moment you go see
somebody, they'll say,
1684
01:27:46,400 --> 01:27:47,130
oh, we can't tell you.
1685
01:27:47,130 --> 01:27:47,870
It's top secret.
1686
01:27:47,870 --> 01:27:49,380
What are you gonna do?
1687
01:27:49,380 --> 01:27:51,190
You have to walk out.
1688
01:27:51,190 --> 01:27:53,480
So you see how the
government operates?
1689
01:27:53,480 --> 01:27:55,980
How they can-- you say you
should go there and ask them.
1690
01:27:55,980 --> 01:27:58,040
Who you gonna go to?
1691
01:27:58,040 --> 01:27:59,710
Even with the
experience I had being
1692
01:27:59,710 --> 01:28:01,660
on the top of the
government all the years,
1693
01:28:01,660 --> 01:28:05,600
I couldn't tell
you who to go see.
1694
01:28:05,600 --> 01:28:08,920
[MUSIC PLAYING]
1695
01:28:11,770 --> 01:28:13,790
NARRATOR: Paris, 1999.
1696
01:28:13,790 --> 01:28:18,240
The most important UFO study in
recent decades is made public.
1697
01:28:18,240 --> 01:28:20,850
This was presented to the
President and Prime Minister
1698
01:28:20,850 --> 01:28:24,270
of France, urging diplomatic
action with the US
1699
01:28:24,270 --> 01:28:26,770
through the European Union.
1700
01:28:26,770 --> 01:28:28,660
The report was
compiled by the COMETA
1701
01:28:28,660 --> 01:28:32,230
group, which investigated
over 500 UFO cases
1702
01:28:32,230 --> 01:28:33,820
from around the world.
1703
01:28:33,820 --> 01:28:36,760
This report, which
came from a high level
1704
01:28:36,760 --> 01:28:39,590
group of French military
officers primarily,
1705
01:28:39,590 --> 01:28:44,750
as well as some scientists,
is the most strongly worded,
1706
01:28:44,750 --> 01:28:48,380
pro-UFO document ever
written in any language
1707
01:28:48,380 --> 01:28:53,230
that has been made public
by a group of this stature.
1708
01:28:53,230 --> 01:28:54,400
NARRATOR: The COMETA
group consists
1709
01:28:54,400 --> 01:28:57,630
of generals and admirals of
the French military as well
1710
01:28:57,630 --> 01:29:00,810
as top-level scientists,
such as-- Andre Lebeau,
1711
01:29:00,810 --> 01:29:05,100
director of CNES, the
French equivalent of NASA;
1712
01:29:05,100 --> 01:29:08,500
General Bernard Norlain, former
Commander French Tactical Air
1713
01:29:08,500 --> 01:29:12,490
Force; and Jean-Claude
Ribes, the former director
1714
01:29:12,490 --> 01:29:14,780
of the Observatory
at Lyon, France.
1715
01:29:14,780 --> 01:29:18,190
The title of the report
is "UFOs and Defense--
1716
01:29:18,190 --> 01:29:20,750
What Must We Prepare For?"
1717
01:29:20,750 --> 01:29:24,740
Now, it's 92 pages of
text after that title.
1718
01:29:24,740 --> 01:29:26,210
NARRATOR: The COMETA
group received
1719
01:29:26,210 --> 01:29:29,490
data collected by numerous
scientific agencies.
1720
01:29:29,490 --> 01:29:31,780
Much of its content
was based on reports
1721
01:29:31,780 --> 01:29:34,270
from military and
civilian pilots.
1722
01:29:34,270 --> 01:29:37,780
This official document was an
internal military investigation
1723
01:29:37,780 --> 01:29:42,530
that was never intended
for the general public.
1724
01:29:42,530 --> 01:29:44,940
The report also contains a
selection of photographs.
1725
01:29:47,950 --> 01:29:50,760
These photos were subjected
to scientific analysis
1726
01:29:50,760 --> 01:29:53,390
in an effort to
determine authenticity.
1727
01:29:53,390 --> 01:29:56,790
[MUSIC PLAYING]
1728
01:30:07,500 --> 01:30:09,820
COMETA also examined
physical evidence,
1729
01:30:09,820 --> 01:30:12,220
such as plant and
soil samples taken
1730
01:30:12,220 --> 01:30:15,010
from alleged landing sites.
1731
01:30:15,010 --> 01:30:18,470
One such case occurred
on January 8, 1981
1732
01:30:18,470 --> 01:30:21,010
in Southern France.
1733
01:30:21,010 --> 01:30:24,790
There was only a single
witness to that event.
1734
01:30:24,790 --> 01:30:29,260
He was working in
his small farm.
1735
01:30:29,260 --> 01:30:32,520
Late one afternoon, he
heard a whistling sound.
1736
01:30:32,520 --> 01:30:34,430
NARRATOR: He looked up
and just above the trees
1737
01:30:34,430 --> 01:30:36,250
was this strange craft.
1738
01:30:36,250 --> 01:30:41,680
It descended and landed 30
feet away in his garden.
1739
01:30:41,680 --> 01:30:42,840
[SPEAKING FRENCH]
1740
01:30:48,300 --> 01:30:49,790
He told his wife
about it in the evening
1741
01:30:49,790 --> 01:30:51,690
and she thought
that he was joking.
1742
01:30:51,690 --> 01:30:53,560
[SPEAKING FRENCH]
1743
01:30:54,450 --> 01:30:55,950
PETER STURROCK: They
went back in the morning
1744
01:30:55,950 --> 01:30:59,360
to look at the area and they
found traces on the ground.
1745
01:30:59,360 --> 01:31:00,180
[SPEAKING FRENCH]
1746
01:31:09,410 --> 01:31:12,820
The scientists came
out in a week or two
1747
01:31:12,820 --> 01:31:17,220
and they took further
samples of soils.
1748
01:31:17,220 --> 01:31:20,290
They also took
samples of plants,
1749
01:31:20,290 --> 01:31:22,950
and the analysis of the soil and
plants were very interesting.
1750
01:31:22,950 --> 01:31:25,270
They were carried out
quite professionally.
1751
01:31:25,270 --> 01:31:29,430
And there was evidence of
compression of the soil
1752
01:31:29,430 --> 01:31:31,740
and there was a clear
evidence of damage
1753
01:31:31,740 --> 01:31:34,330
to the plants, the
kind of injury that
1754
01:31:34,330 --> 01:31:37,070
could happen because
of heating-- due
1755
01:31:37,070 --> 01:31:39,130
to microwaves, for instance.
1756
01:31:39,130 --> 01:31:41,440
So there was good physical
evidence in that case.
1757
01:31:41,440 --> 01:31:43,370
And moreover, there
were two kinds
1758
01:31:43,370 --> 01:31:46,270
of physical evidence--
injury, damage to the soil
1759
01:31:46,270 --> 01:31:48,310
and damage to plants.
1760
01:31:48,310 --> 01:31:49,710
NARRATOR: Despite the
physical evidence,
1761
01:31:49,710 --> 01:31:52,110
the small town of
Trans-en-Provence
1762
01:31:52,110 --> 01:31:55,100
labeled the farmer as a
flying saucer fanatic.
1763
01:31:55,100 --> 01:31:56,140
[SPEAKING FRENCH]
1764
01:32:05,020 --> 01:32:07,610
NARRATOR: A number of cases
analyzed by the COMETA group
1765
01:32:07,610 --> 01:32:10,820
came from military pilots
involved in UFO incidents.
1766
01:32:14,130 --> 01:32:18,060
One of the most dramatic cases
occurred in September of 1976,
1767
01:32:18,060 --> 01:32:21,100
when a Phantom F-4
jet flown by a pilot
1768
01:32:21,100 --> 01:32:23,510
from the Iranian Royal
Air Force attempted
1769
01:32:23,510 --> 01:32:25,320
to fire a missile at a UFO.
1770
01:32:28,060 --> 01:32:31,860
In the same instant, the pilot's
fire control console and radio
1771
01:32:31,860 --> 01:32:32,560
went dead.
1772
01:32:36,140 --> 01:32:39,530
At this point, a smaller craft
emerged from the main UFO
1773
01:32:39,530 --> 01:32:41,410
and circled around the jet.
1774
01:32:44,410 --> 01:32:47,020
The pilot then took
evasive action and power
1775
01:32:47,020 --> 01:32:48,810
to his controls returned.
1776
01:32:48,810 --> 01:32:49,870
He escaped unharmed.
1777
01:32:52,870 --> 01:32:57,830
In this report, they say,
in effect, UFOs are real.
1778
01:33:02,460 --> 01:33:05,410
Ergo, the extraterrestrial
hypothesis may,
1779
01:33:05,410 --> 01:33:08,300
in some cases, be
the best or only real
1780
01:33:08,300 --> 01:33:10,880
answer and cannot be ignored.
1781
01:33:14,520 --> 01:33:17,040
They are technological.
1782
01:33:17,040 --> 01:33:19,840
They do things that
we probably can't do.
1783
01:33:25,040 --> 01:33:28,380
And, all that being
said, this obviously
1784
01:33:28,380 --> 01:33:34,380
constitutes a major concern for
global defense and security.
1785
01:33:34,380 --> 01:33:35,710
NARRATOR: When the
report was completed,
1786
01:33:35,710 --> 01:33:38,930
it was given to a number of
leading French journalists.
1787
01:33:38,930 --> 01:33:43,040
One of these was Bernard
Thouanel, the editor of "VSD."
1788
01:33:43,040 --> 01:33:46,960
"VSD" is a French weekly
magazine, like "Time Life."
1789
01:33:46,960 --> 01:33:50,450
We are a general
press publication.
1790
01:33:50,450 --> 01:33:53,690
It's not specialized in
UFO sightings at all.
1791
01:33:53,690 --> 01:33:55,480
NARRATOR: The COMETA
group allowed "VSD"
1792
01:33:55,480 --> 01:33:57,400
to publish the
report, provided it
1793
01:33:57,400 --> 01:33:59,560
was not manipulated in any way.
1794
01:33:59,560 --> 01:34:03,270
If the public was aware
of the COMETA Report,
1795
01:34:03,270 --> 01:34:05,380
then the COMETA
Report was not going
1796
01:34:05,380 --> 01:34:08,280
to disappear in any
kind of official
1797
01:34:08,280 --> 01:34:12,160
or semi-official dark
hole, so to speak.
1798
01:34:12,160 --> 01:34:15,620
Then the COMETA Report
became a public fact,
1799
01:34:15,620 --> 01:34:19,230
and it remains a public fact.
1800
01:34:19,230 --> 01:34:21,360
NARRATOR: To date, the report
has not been officially
1801
01:34:21,360 --> 01:34:24,740
published outside of
France, and so far,
1802
01:34:24,740 --> 01:34:27,990
only one article published
in the "Boston Globe"
1803
01:34:27,990 --> 01:34:29,850
has appeared in the US press.
1804
01:34:29,850 --> 01:34:30,980
LESLIE KEAN: I
applied a very high
1805
01:34:30,980 --> 01:34:34,710
standard to the story because
of its controversial nature.
1806
01:34:34,710 --> 01:34:36,930
I was basically retelling
what the generals
1807
01:34:36,930 --> 01:34:38,900
and the other people had
concluded in their report.
1808
01:34:38,900 --> 01:34:40,380
I looked at government
documents that
1809
01:34:40,380 --> 01:34:43,170
dealt with the issue of
national security and UFOs,
1810
01:34:43,170 --> 01:34:46,750
which was what the generals
were dealing with in France.
1811
01:34:46,750 --> 01:34:48,000
NARRATOR: Despite
her thoroughness,
1812
01:34:48,000 --> 01:34:50,400
Leslie Kean encountered
much resistance
1813
01:34:50,400 --> 01:34:52,290
in getting the story published.
1814
01:34:52,290 --> 01:34:54,020
LESLIE KEAN: I went to
many papers, many of whom
1815
01:34:54,020 --> 01:34:55,290
I'd published with in the past.
1816
01:34:55,290 --> 01:34:56,930
People laughed,
hung up the phone.
1817
01:34:56,930 --> 01:34:59,580
The subject matter is
ridiculed in the media.
1818
01:34:59,580 --> 01:35:02,460
And so even though I was dealing
with facts in this article
1819
01:35:02,460 --> 01:35:05,570
and high-level journalism,
they weren't interested because
1820
01:35:05,570 --> 01:35:06,440
of the subject matter.
1821
01:35:06,440 --> 01:35:08,510
This was really,
really frustrating,
1822
01:35:08,510 --> 01:35:11,300
because I thought this was
an extremely important story
1823
01:35:11,300 --> 01:35:13,180
and I know that
it was newsworthy.
1824
01:35:13,180 --> 01:35:15,140
Most Americans have
never heard of it.
1825
01:35:15,140 --> 01:35:18,600
The group hasn't published
an English translation
1826
01:35:18,600 --> 01:35:20,990
that anybody can get ahold of.
1827
01:35:20,990 --> 01:35:26,870
And they seem to be on the trail
of saying, hey, you Americans,
1828
01:35:26,870 --> 01:35:29,450
you're holding back technology
that you've learned from flying
1829
01:35:29,450 --> 01:35:31,460
saucers from your allies.
1830
01:35:31,460 --> 01:35:34,120
So it's a message to the
Pentagon, not to the public.
1831
01:35:34,120 --> 01:35:36,410
They know the Pentagon
knows they're real.
1832
01:35:36,410 --> 01:35:38,740
So it's an important
report for what it says.
1833
01:35:38,740 --> 01:35:44,100
No other report with names, with
people, with excellent cases--
1834
01:35:44,100 --> 01:35:47,160
this is not anonymous
reporting now--
1835
01:35:47,160 --> 01:35:48,780
has come close to
taking as strong
1836
01:35:48,780 --> 01:35:52,160
a stand that some UFOs are
extraterrestrial spacecraft.
1837
01:35:54,970 --> 01:35:58,870
NARRATOR: In 2007, the
French National Space Agency
1838
01:35:58,870 --> 01:36:02,970
CNES released a half
century of previously
1839
01:36:02,970 --> 01:36:04,940
classified UFO reports.
1840
01:36:09,280 --> 01:36:12,770
[MUSIC PLAYING]
1841
01:36:12,770 --> 01:36:15,400
A group calling itself
the Disclosure Project
1842
01:36:15,400 --> 01:36:17,840
is in Washington this week
calling on Congress to hold
1843
01:36:17,840 --> 01:36:19,220
public hearings on UFOs.
1844
01:36:19,220 --> 01:36:21,760
Is there really life
on other planets?
1845
01:36:21,760 --> 01:36:23,610
Some former military
and government
1846
01:36:23,610 --> 01:36:25,450
personnel say they have proof--
1847
01:36:25,450 --> 01:36:29,090
--group of people who claim
they have seen UFOs is calling
1848
01:36:29,090 --> 01:36:30,490
on Congress to open hearings.
1849
01:36:30,490 --> 01:36:32,820
What do members plan to
do with their information?
1850
01:36:32,820 --> 01:36:36,430
They hope Congress and
President Bush take notice.
1851
01:36:36,430 --> 01:36:37,630
[APPLAUSE]
1852
01:36:37,630 --> 01:36:40,090
MALE REPORTER: Before a crowd
of believers and skeptics,
1853
01:36:40,090 --> 01:36:43,380
with cameras rolling, members
of a group calling itself
1854
01:36:43,380 --> 01:36:45,630
the Disclosure
Project stood up one
1855
01:36:45,630 --> 01:36:49,020
by one to tell personal
experiences involving
1856
01:36:49,020 --> 01:36:51,490
what they say are UFOs.
1857
01:36:51,490 --> 01:36:56,940
I have with me the voice
tapes of the controllers
1858
01:36:56,940 --> 01:36:58,590
that were involved.
1859
01:36:58,590 --> 01:37:02,740
I have a copy of the original
of the video that we took,
1860
01:37:02,740 --> 01:37:04,760
which is rather interesting.
1861
01:37:04,760 --> 01:37:09,390
And it's called the UFO
incident, Japan 1648,
1862
01:37:09,390 --> 01:37:10,280
I believe the number was.
1863
01:37:10,280 --> 01:37:14,160
It happened on November
the 18th, 1986.
1864
01:37:14,160 --> 01:37:18,400
When it was all done, the
CIA-- one of the CIA men
1865
01:37:18,400 --> 01:37:20,730
told the people they were
now sworn to secrecy,
1866
01:37:20,730 --> 01:37:24,610
that this meeting never happened
and this event never happened.
1867
01:37:24,610 --> 01:37:25,650
We have another--
1868
01:37:25,650 --> 01:37:27,440
NARRATOR: The Disclosure
Project was formed
1869
01:37:27,440 --> 01:37:30,700
by Dr. Steven Greer in 1993.
1870
01:37:30,700 --> 01:37:32,480
Since then, he has
gathered together
1871
01:37:32,480 --> 01:37:35,620
over 200 military and
civilian witnesses
1872
01:37:35,620 --> 01:37:39,260
who experienced UFO events
during their official duties.
1873
01:37:39,260 --> 01:37:44,120
We had ground visual, ground
radar, airborne visual,
1874
01:37:44,120 --> 01:37:48,590
and airborne radar confirmation
of some of these sightings.
1875
01:37:48,590 --> 01:37:51,390
NARRATOR: Witnesses ranged
from FAA controllers
1876
01:37:51,390 --> 01:37:53,660
to military communications
specialists.
1877
01:37:53,660 --> 01:37:56,450
And I can clearly recall
seeing a message that
1878
01:37:56,450 --> 01:38:00,940
went through my crypto center
which said that a UFO had
1879
01:38:00,940 --> 01:38:03,440
crashed on the island
of Spitsbergen, Norway
1880
01:38:03,440 --> 01:38:06,260
and a team of scientists were
coming to investigate it.
1881
01:38:06,260 --> 01:38:08,970
NARRATOR: Many witnesses
provided official documentation
1882
01:38:08,970 --> 01:38:10,410
of their event.
1883
01:38:10,410 --> 01:38:15,620
Out of the National Archives,
I have the 18-page official
1884
01:38:15,620 --> 01:38:17,630
Navy and Air Force report.
1885
01:38:17,630 --> 01:38:20,110
So the truth is here.
1886
01:38:20,110 --> 01:38:23,970
I will testify under oath
before Congress that everything
1887
01:38:23,970 --> 01:38:25,830
that I have said is true.
1888
01:38:25,830 --> 01:38:29,270
[APPLAUSE]
1889
01:38:31,740 --> 01:38:33,250
I think it's time
to open the books.
1890
01:38:33,250 --> 01:38:36,320
NARRATOR: In October of 2002,
former White House Chief
1891
01:38:36,320 --> 01:38:40,200
of Staff John Podesta urged the
release of secret government
1892
01:38:40,200 --> 01:38:41,820
UFO records.
1893
01:38:41,820 --> 01:38:45,050
He cited the importance to
the public of declassifying
1894
01:38:45,050 --> 01:38:46,340
government documents.
1895
01:38:46,340 --> 01:38:49,430
It's time to find
out what the truth
1896
01:38:49,430 --> 01:38:51,530
really is that's out there.
1897
01:38:51,530 --> 01:38:54,090
We ought to do it, really,
because it's right.
1898
01:38:54,090 --> 01:38:57,500
We ought to do it because the
American people, quite frankly,
1899
01:38:57,500 --> 01:38:59,280
can handle the truth.
1900
01:38:59,280 --> 01:39:02,240
And we ought to do it
because it's the law.
1901
01:39:02,240 --> 01:39:04,400
NARRATOR: It's not surprising
that government officials
1902
01:39:04,400 --> 01:39:06,830
of this stature are
requesting the release
1903
01:39:06,830 --> 01:39:09,940
of official UFO information,
because sightings
1904
01:39:09,940 --> 01:39:12,620
over major cities persist.
1905
01:39:12,620 --> 01:39:17,130
In December 2006, a number
of United Airlines employees
1906
01:39:17,130 --> 01:39:20,690
witnessed a disc-shaped
craft hovering over Chicago's
1907
01:39:20,690 --> 01:39:22,650
O'Hare Airport for two minutes.
1908
01:39:22,650 --> 01:39:26,500
The incident was reported
in the national media.
1909
01:39:26,500 --> 01:39:29,980
[MUSIC PLAYING]
1910
01:39:57,320 --> 01:40:00,800
[CHATTER]
1911
01:40:11,730 --> 01:40:13,720
WOMAN: Oh my god!
1912
01:40:13,720 --> 01:40:16,690
[MUSIC PLAYING]
1913
01:40:16,690 --> 01:40:19,370
NARRATOR: Often in
reliable UFO cases,
1914
01:40:19,370 --> 01:40:22,570
the official explanation is
more unbelievable than the event
1915
01:40:22,570 --> 01:40:23,440
itself.
1916
01:40:23,440 --> 01:40:27,670
I had the evidence that
a crash did happen here.
1917
01:40:32,350 --> 01:40:34,270
And then the red light
was sort of casting
1918
01:40:34,270 --> 01:40:38,200
a glow over the whole thing,
so it looked like a round disc.
1919
01:40:42,840 --> 01:40:45,080
I saw one, but I don't know
where-- it just disappeared.
1920
01:40:50,490 --> 01:40:53,070
People say, Mike, no,
you saw a B-2 bomber.
1921
01:40:53,070 --> 01:40:55,880
My response was, we could
land all 40 of our B-2 bombers
1922
01:40:55,880 --> 01:40:57,040
on the wing of that craft.
1923
01:41:01,370 --> 01:41:05,240
I would go ahead and feel
the craft, which was warm.
1924
01:41:12,290 --> 01:41:15,670
There is a serious possibility
that we all being visited
1925
01:41:15,670 --> 01:41:18,410
and have been visited
for many years
1926
01:41:18,410 --> 01:41:23,880
by people from outer space,
from other civilizations.
1927
01:41:23,880 --> 01:41:27,120
That it behooves us, in
case some of these people
1928
01:41:27,120 --> 01:41:30,120
in the future or now
should turn hostile,
1929
01:41:30,120 --> 01:41:32,900
to find out who they are,
where they come from,
1930
01:41:32,900 --> 01:41:34,080
and what they want.
1931
01:41:34,080 --> 01:41:37,600
Well, if the accounts
are to be believed,
1932
01:41:37,600 --> 01:41:40,220
yes, there have
been ET visitation.
1933
01:41:40,220 --> 01:41:43,200
There have been crashed craft.
1934
01:41:43,200 --> 01:41:48,210
There have been material
and bodies recovered.
1935
01:41:48,210 --> 01:41:52,430
And there is some group
of people somewhere
1936
01:41:52,430 --> 01:41:56,570
that may or may not be
associated with government
1937
01:41:56,570 --> 01:41:58,620
at this point, but
certainly were at one
1938
01:41:58,620 --> 01:42:01,870
time, that have this knowledge.
1939
01:42:01,870 --> 01:42:04,500
The thing you have to
remember is that absolute power
1940
01:42:04,500 --> 01:42:06,080
corrupts absolutely.
1941
01:42:06,080 --> 01:42:07,680
When you've got the
knowledge and the budget,
1942
01:42:07,680 --> 01:42:09,750
nobody looking
over your shoulder,
1943
01:42:09,750 --> 01:42:12,380
there's a great temptation
to think that you know best.
1944
01:42:12,380 --> 01:42:14,210
To heck with the public, they
don't know enough to have
1945
01:42:14,210 --> 01:42:15,900
a sensible opinion.
1946
01:42:15,900 --> 01:42:17,050
That's unfortunate.
1947
01:42:17,050 --> 01:42:17,900
[SPEAKING RUSSIAN]
1948
01:42:37,930 --> 01:42:40,720
I just wish that government
entities that are involved
1949
01:42:40,720 --> 01:42:43,510
in trying to always
stop the investigation
1950
01:42:43,510 --> 01:42:47,410
or put out some flaky story
about some observation that was
1951
01:42:47,410 --> 01:42:50,270
legitimate-- I don't know
why people just don't stop
1952
01:42:50,270 --> 01:42:52,760
and, and-- and in government--
and just sort of, you know,
1953
01:42:52,760 --> 01:42:53,830
open the books for everybody.
1954
01:42:53,830 --> 01:42:55,460
We all ought to be included.
1955
01:42:55,460 --> 01:42:56,750
It's something that
we should embrace
1956
01:42:56,750 --> 01:42:58,090
and not be fearful about.
1957
01:42:58,090 --> 01:42:59,760
That's-- that's how
I feel about it.
1958
01:42:59,760 --> 01:43:04,120
Since the subject is clearly
of great interest to the public,
1959
01:43:04,120 --> 01:43:08,430
I think that the scientific
community owes it to the public
1960
01:43:08,430 --> 01:43:11,110
to really pay attention
to the subject
1961
01:43:11,110 --> 01:43:14,930
and make a thorough,
extensive, and careful
1962
01:43:14,930 --> 01:43:18,570
investigation, and then share
with the public whatever
1963
01:43:18,570 --> 01:43:19,360
they find.
1964
01:43:19,360 --> 01:43:20,530
MALE INTERVIEWER:
A story this big,
1965
01:43:20,530 --> 01:43:22,790
there's no way it could be
kept secret from the public.
1966
01:43:22,790 --> 01:43:24,830
What do you say to someone
like that, who says that?
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1968
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NARRATOR: If structured
craft of unknown origin
1969
01:43:35,830 --> 01:43:39,360
are penetrating our skies, the
people best equipped to know
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01:43:39,360 --> 01:43:40,060
are the military.
1971
01:43:40,060 --> 01:43:42,700
And we will provide you
with all the information
1972
01:43:42,700 --> 01:43:43,900
that you need.
1973
01:43:43,900 --> 01:43:45,470
NARRATOR: Numerous
military witnesses
1974
01:43:45,470 --> 01:43:49,140
are prepared to testify in
great detail that need immunity
1975
01:43:49,140 --> 01:43:51,200
from their security oaths.
1976
01:43:51,200 --> 01:43:52,940
Congress is currently
being lobbied
1977
01:43:52,940 --> 01:43:56,200
to provide a platform for
such testimony, but so far,
1978
01:43:56,200 --> 01:43:56,900
to no avail.
1979
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The discovery that we are being
visited by extraterrestrials
1980
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would be one of the
greatest in human history.
1981
01:44:07,490 --> 01:44:09,340
Such a discovery
would profoundly
1982
01:44:09,340 --> 01:44:11,400
alter the perception
of ourselves
1983
01:44:11,400 --> 01:44:13,720
and our place in the universe.
1984
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1985
01:46:15,230 --> 01:46:18,450
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1986
01:46:23,550 --> 01:46:26,900
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