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Okay, fellas,
when you're ready.
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Okay, fellas, get back in line.
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How did you people get
back here?
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Come on. Come on.
Sorry.
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Excuse me.
Have you got a pen?
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I'm sorry,
you can't come in here.
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Get him out of here.
You can't come in here.
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What are you doing?
This is a private session!
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Thank you.
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Thank you very, very much.
Good evening to all of you.
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Thank you.
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I am beginning
to recognize the fact
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that nothing is true.
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Nothing.
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It's all down to perception.
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My immediate family is gone.
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But that's life.
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It's the same thing
with every family,
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that someone will be left
in the end.
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And this time of life,
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I have fantastic memories,
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but everybody's memory
is different,
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so they're just my memories,
you know?
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I know that Maurice
and Robin would've had
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a different kind of memory.
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I remember Barry saying
that one day,
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we're gonna be really famous.
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And we said, "yeah."
You know, "whatever you say."
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He's the big brother, you know.
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We kind of saw ourselves
as triplets
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rather than me and Maurice
being twins,
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and we always had
the same goals growing up
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that it became impossible
to see each other
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as normal brothers.
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My ninth Christmas,
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there was an acoustic guitar
at the end of my bed,
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and Robin and Maurice started
to collaborate
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and pretend to sing with me,
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and we started doing gigs
as a teenage act.
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We emigrated
as a whole family
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from england
to Australia.
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All three of US had
the same understanding
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that we were going
to be famous
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come hell or high water.
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Our father,
he had his own band,
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but it didn't work out,
so he became our manager,
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and it was a team.
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There was US three and dad.
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And mum, of course.
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My mother,
she was always the person
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who kept the calm
between dad and US.
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Very strong, very loyal.
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The Beatles
have just arrived
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for the first time
in our country.
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When the Beatles came
on the scene,
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it was like, "that's what
we've been trying to do."
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They turned pop music
into an art form,
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and they were singing
threepart Harmony
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like we did.
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So we made up our own minds
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that we were going back to be
part of the British invasion.
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Making music was
what we wanted to do
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for the rest of our lives,
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so we thought, you know,
whatever's going to happen,
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we'll make happen.
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Before we left Australia,
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we did an album
called "spicks and specks,"
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and they became
our best demos.
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Dad and I did the rounds,
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met with industry people,
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and as we sat
in everyone's office,
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they would say the same thing:
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"No, no, I'm sorry, lads.
We can't help you."
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My dad, he was very,
you know, "we gotta do this."
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Because my dad was really
the most ambitious man,
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I think, in the gibb clan.
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We loved the Beatles,
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so dad had sent this stuff
to nems,
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the Brian Epstein offices.
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Brian Epstein,
the man who built the Beatles
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into a cult,
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is now as wellknown
as they are.
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I was doing Brian's mail
most of the time.
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There was a letter
by the father
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of these three handsome,
cute guys
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who were very proactive
and who'd had some success.
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They came from Manchester,
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but they were writing
from Australia.
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I showed it to him.
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Brian said, "yeah, yeah.
That's very nice. No, nice."
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He said,
"well, give it to Robert."
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"He's Australian
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and he's good
at these kind of things."
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Somebody sent you a tape
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of these boys
from Australia?
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Yes, they did.
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I heard it, and I was
absolutely astounded.
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It was the most brilliant
Harmony singing
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and composing I'd ever heard.
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At the time,
Robert was my manager.
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Cream was signed to Robert
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on what I thought
was an exclusive deal.
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I was surprised that
other bands were coming in.
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Robert was so eccentric.
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I mean, absolutely bonkers.
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He was Australian, but he spoke
like an English gentleman,
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and he would wear
these really big, flashy ties,
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and he had a combover,
and it was all
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who is this guy?
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Whoever this man was,
he really believed in US.
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He was almost like a parent.
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You can't deny talent,
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and the talent was so obvious.
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Somebody mentioned that
the Bee Gees were in town.
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They were good friends of mine
from Australia.
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So I phoned them up.
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I said, "is Maurice there,
then?
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Put Maurice on."
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He said,
"we've being signed up
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"by this guy
called Robert stigwood.
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"We're doing this recording.
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Why don't you come
and play guitar?"
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Caught a train into London
and found ibc studios.
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So there they were.
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There were Barry, Robin,
and Maurice
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and the drummer,
Colin petersen.
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That night, my life changed completely.
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Completely.
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The first evening
we were in there,
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there was a blackout.
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So while we were waiting
for the power to come back on,
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we just sat on the steps,
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and Barry was playing
his guitar.
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It was so echoey.
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I mean, it was a wonderful echo
in this place.
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There we were in the dark.
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The first thought was,
"in the event
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of something happening to me."
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And we thought, "well,
what could come from that?"
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We made believe
we were in a mine.
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Because it was gonna be
our first single,
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we wanted a title
that captured the imagination,
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that got people's attention.
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And "New York mining
disaster" was born then.
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We had our first hit record
within the first five months
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of being in england.
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The thrill was that it did
the same thing in america.
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We thought that we might get
a hit in england,
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but we never dreamed
that we might get a hit
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in england and america as well.
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So I came over
to the United States
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to make a record deal for them.
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I made a decision to place
the group with Atlantic.
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He said, "I'm taking you
to meet ahmet ertegun
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and to get you into
the American music scene."
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Otis Redding was playing
at the Apollo.
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Ahmet ertegun
and Robert stigwood
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took me down there
to see Otis.
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And it was amazing.
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Soul has always had
a special place
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in the Bee Gees' music.
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We've always been influenced
by black music.
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Smokey Robinson, motown,
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all that was a big influence
on US.
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Robert introduced US.
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He said, "I want you to write
a song for Otis Redding."
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"To love somebody" was born
that night.
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But unfortunately,
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Otis never got to record
the song.
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I mean,
I must have always known
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"to love somebody,"
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'cause that song is just,
like, in the ether.
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Those lyrics, "there's
a certain kind of light
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that never shone on me,"
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like, I don't even know
if he's talking about himself,
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but there was some point
where I got obsessed,
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like, tracking down
every cover version,
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like Nina Simone, the animals.
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Some great singers have sung
that song, obviously,
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but his vocal,
when he sings it,
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I can still get chills
thinking about it.
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I just remember
this music being on,
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and I'm like, "who's this?"
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And, "why, it's the Bee Gees."
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And I was like, "the Bee Gees?"
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It actually blew my mind.
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Those early records sound like
the Beatles' early records.
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It's classic '60s guitar
pop sound,
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but then it had another thing
going on.
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You've got
the brothers singing,
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and when you've got
brothers singing,
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it's like an instrument
that nobody else can buy.
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You can't go buy that sound
in a shop.
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You can buy
a Fender stratocaster
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and put it through a vox amp
and sound like buddy Holly.
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You can't sing
like the Bee Gees,
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because when you've got
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family members
singing together,
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it's unique.
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It's the blend of the tones
of each brother.
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And Robin had this wonderful,
tearjerking voice.
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Robin was a joyous kid.
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Hysterically funny.
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He took great joy
in being on television.
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This was the funniest kid
you could ever meet.
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My father always used
to call him the nanny goat.
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'Cause Robin would go...
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He'd be rehearsing
in the back of the car,
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you know,
doing all these phases
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and he'd go, "shut up!
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You sound like
a bloody nanny goat."
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Robin was always
a bit of a loner.
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I like being spontaneous.
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I like being funny
with people,
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but you won't get that
right away with me, you see.
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Robin had a wit that
no one could compete with.
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And he could be very dark too.
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Robin is not a person
who would say,
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"I love my brothers,"
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or, "group hug."
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You know, none of that stuff.
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I'm basically
a very shy person.
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I'm very hard to get to know.
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I have to really know somebody
before I reveal myself.
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You know, I mean,
that's the voice.
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That's the voice
that reaches your heart.
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We did a show
at the saville theatre,
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and Paul McCartney was there
with Jane Asher,
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because Robert had said,
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"would you come
and see the boys?"
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When you think that
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five months before all this
was going on,
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I was in pitt street buying up
the beatle fan club book,
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and now here I am
partying with these guys.
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We felt like we'd arrived.
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Now I'm living out in highgate
outside London.
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Barry's got a place
in eaton square.
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Robin's got a house
in St. George's hill,
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beautiful area.
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And mum and dad
had their own place,
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and, of course, Andy lived
with them.
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He was just like US,
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and he was always
tagging along,
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hoping that one day,
he would do this too.
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He would like to sing.
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There was a lot of hits
in that short time,
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you know,
and after all the work
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we had done through clubs
and everything,
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I felt grown up, you know,
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so we made the most of it.
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Very talented group of men,
the Bee Gees.
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Once again,
the fabulous Bee Gees.
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Here they are, and get
involved with the Bee Gees.
255
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Here they are.
256
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By then, we were flying,
257
00:15:30,583 --> 00:15:33,541
you know, just the most
amazing experience.
258
00:15:42,666 --> 00:15:43,708
As a pop group,
259
00:15:43,791 --> 00:15:45,749
this was the biggest moment
of our lives.
260
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Never expected.
261
00:15:47,333 --> 00:15:50,083
Hoped for
but never really expected.
262
00:16:04,250 --> 00:16:06,458
Then came "Massachusetts."
263
00:16:06,541 --> 00:16:08,791
Robin said, "I've got
this idea for a song."
264
00:16:08,875 --> 00:16:10,666
He sang the melody,
265
00:16:10,749 --> 00:16:13,541
and I just remember
our jaws dropping.
266
00:16:51,916 --> 00:16:55,000
For me, they connected
from very early on.
267
00:16:55,083 --> 00:16:57,624
"Massachusetts" is probably
the first song,
268
00:16:57,708 --> 00:16:59,541
I think, that really resonates.
269
00:16:59,624 --> 00:17:03,958
There is a gospel quality
to it.
270
00:17:04,041 --> 00:17:06,666
There is a folk quality to it.
271
00:17:06,749 --> 00:17:09,624
I didn't know where the hell
Massachusetts was,
272
00:17:09,708 --> 00:17:11,041
but I found myself
singing that
273
00:17:11,125 --> 00:17:15,167
and translating it
to where I was from.
274
00:17:15,250 --> 00:17:16,417
Robert runs up and he goes,
275
00:17:16,499 --> 00:17:18,833
"'Massachusetts' has just gone
to number one."
276
00:17:18,916 --> 00:17:20,000
We went, "what?"
277
00:17:20,083 --> 00:17:22,000
To have a number one
in england,
278
00:17:22,083 --> 00:17:23,875
you have no idea
how much we dreamed of this
279
00:17:23,958 --> 00:17:24,875
back in Australia.
280
00:17:36,292 --> 00:17:38,875
"Massachusetts"
from the Bee Gees.
281
00:17:38,958 --> 00:17:41,041
I met the Bee Gees
at "top of the pops."
282
00:17:41,125 --> 00:17:42,541
I was young.
283
00:17:42,624 --> 00:17:45,167
Was I 16?
Maybe I was even 17.
284
00:17:45,250 --> 00:17:48,041
Top pop girl in america,
top pop girl in britain,
285
00:17:48,125 --> 00:17:49,583
the one and only Lulu.
286
00:17:58,624 --> 00:18:02,083
The Bee Gees were always
in the studio.
287
00:18:02,167 --> 00:18:03,708
They were always recording.
288
00:18:05,208 --> 00:18:06,583
They would literally go
into the studio
289
00:18:06,666 --> 00:18:08,208
and start writing.
290
00:18:08,292 --> 00:18:11,417
I had never known
anything like that before.
291
00:18:11,499 --> 00:18:12,958
We don't usually write
our lyrics
292
00:18:13,041 --> 00:18:14,791
till the day we sing them.
293
00:18:14,875 --> 00:18:17,250
We usually write our lyrics
in the studio itself.
294
00:18:17,333 --> 00:18:19,417
That seems to work
through thick and thin.
295
00:18:19,499 --> 00:18:21,250
It always works for US.
296
00:18:21,333 --> 00:18:23,791
It's very hard to describe
how we write,
297
00:18:23,875 --> 00:18:25,292
but the only way
I can describe
298
00:18:25,375 --> 00:18:28,041
how we work at it
is by becoming one mind.
299
00:18:28,125 --> 00:18:30,208
Maurice had unique insight
300
00:18:30,292 --> 00:18:32,083
into the way
Robin and I thought.
301
00:18:33,791 --> 00:18:35,958
He would just be
fiddling around on the piano.
302
00:18:36,041 --> 00:18:38,417
He'd suddenly
play something, and,
303
00:18:38,499 --> 00:18:39,541
"what was that?"
304
00:18:39,624 --> 00:18:41,624
He was trying to please US
305
00:18:41,708 --> 00:18:44,167
and the way that we would all
try to please each other,
306
00:18:44,250 --> 00:18:46,833
and that sometimes was
the birth of a song.
307
00:18:46,916 --> 00:18:48,000
All of a sudden,
we'll wake each other's
308
00:18:48,083 --> 00:18:49,958
little instincts up
and the melodies come.
309
00:18:50,041 --> 00:18:52,499
It's wonderful
when you hear it taking shape.
310
00:18:52,583 --> 00:18:53,791
Then it all blossoms.
311
00:18:53,875 --> 00:18:55,458
The third verse
is four bars.
312
00:18:55,541 --> 00:18:56,958
It's rolling.
313
00:18:57,041 --> 00:18:58,833
They'd say, "okay,
we're ready to roll," right?
314
00:18:58,916 --> 00:19:00,791
And they'd play the song,
and I'd work the chords out.
315
00:19:00,875 --> 00:19:02,125
Colin would figure out
316
00:19:02,208 --> 00:19:03,916
what he's gonna do
on the drums.
317
00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:05,583
They'd say, "right, here we go.
318
00:19:05,666 --> 00:19:07,125
Let's go. Bang, bang, bang."
319
00:19:07,208 --> 00:19:08,167
Down it went.
320
00:19:10,541 --> 00:19:14,791
And that spontaneity
came out in the songs.
321
00:19:14,875 --> 00:19:17,916
In those days, you knocked
an album out in three weeks.
322
00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,167
I think we had
three albums out in one year.
323
00:19:32,208 --> 00:19:33,833
When we went to Europe,
324
00:19:33,916 --> 00:19:36,499
there'd always be
a big bunch of kids outside
325
00:19:36,583 --> 00:19:38,167
waiting for US to arrive.
326
00:19:38,250 --> 00:19:39,833
It was a frightening time,
327
00:19:39,916 --> 00:19:42,375
because they crawled
all over the Mercedes.
328
00:19:42,458 --> 00:19:45,292
They were on the roof.
They were at the window.
329
00:19:45,375 --> 00:19:47,208
It was crazy.
330
00:19:47,292 --> 00:19:48,583
"Hey, guys.
331
00:19:48,666 --> 00:19:50,958
Do you think we're famous?
Could be."
332
00:19:54,125 --> 00:19:55,375
The Bee Gees,
333
00:19:55,458 --> 00:19:58,333
the most exciting sound
in the world.
334
00:20:09,916 --> 00:20:12,167
If you've never been famous,
335
00:20:12,250 --> 00:20:13,583
the first time it happens,
336
00:20:13,666 --> 00:20:15,875
it's a very difficult thing
to handle.
337
00:20:15,958 --> 00:20:17,541
You don't know how to behave.
338
00:20:17,624 --> 00:20:19,167
You don't know
how to experience it.
339
00:20:19,250 --> 00:20:22,375
And that affected all of US
in its own way.
340
00:20:24,125 --> 00:20:26,417
I had six rollsroyces
before I was 21.
341
00:20:26,499 --> 00:20:27,749
I don't know
where they are now.
342
00:20:28,833 --> 00:20:30,375
But I mean,
that's how crazy it was.
343
00:20:30,458 --> 00:20:33,125
We were all very selfish
at that point.
344
00:20:33,208 --> 00:20:35,833
The testosterone kicked in,
345
00:20:35,916 --> 00:20:38,041
and the competition
of life began.
346
00:20:50,583 --> 00:20:54,083
There was always a conflict
between Barry and Robin
347
00:20:54,167 --> 00:20:56,749
'cause they both had
fantastic voices
348
00:20:56,833 --> 00:20:58,708
and Robin wanted
to sing the song
349
00:20:58,791 --> 00:21:00,041
and Barry wanted to sing it.
350
00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,624
Both of US wanted to be
individual performers.
351
00:21:12,708 --> 00:21:14,916
We all wanted
individual recognition.
352
00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:18,583
And therein lies the issue.
353
00:21:22,417 --> 00:21:26,083
I'm speaking to you
from a club in Hamburg,
354
00:21:26,167 --> 00:21:27,791
and I'm Barry gibb
of the Bee Gees.
355
00:21:27,875 --> 00:21:29,083
Robin here.
356
00:21:29,167 --> 00:21:30,958
Robin, we've heard rumors
that the group is splitting up.
357
00:21:31,041 --> 00:21:32,458
Would you like to verify
those rumors?
358
00:21:32,541 --> 00:21:33,749
If I was to say
that was true,
359
00:21:33,833 --> 00:21:35,749
then I would be
the premier of Russia.
360
00:21:35,833 --> 00:21:37,125
I don't know.
361
00:21:37,208 --> 00:21:38,250
Thank you very much,
Mr. Petersen.
362
00:21:38,333 --> 00:21:39,333
How about you, Mr. Melouney?
363
00:21:39,417 --> 00:21:40,791
No.
I don't think it is.
364
00:21:40,875 --> 00:21:43,250
No. No. No.
365
00:21:46,208 --> 00:21:50,125
I always say
that making music
366
00:21:50,208 --> 00:21:52,666
with your family
367
00:21:52,749 --> 00:21:55,916
is equally
the greatest strength
368
00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:57,791
and the greatest weakness
you could ever have
369
00:21:57,875 --> 00:21:59,833
in a musical partnership.
370
00:22:01,708 --> 00:22:03,958
To get to the top
or near the top,
371
00:22:04,041 --> 00:22:06,250
you've gotta be
incredibly driven,
372
00:22:06,333 --> 00:22:09,167
and what drives you
is your ego.
373
00:22:09,250 --> 00:22:10,666
And when you get there
374
00:22:10,749 --> 00:22:12,958
and everybody's got an ego
about it,
375
00:22:13,041 --> 00:22:15,375
it can be tricky to stay there.
376
00:22:28,250 --> 00:22:30,041
The three of US stopped
looking inwards to each other
377
00:22:30,125 --> 00:22:31,958
and all started
looking outwards
378
00:22:32,041 --> 00:22:34,666
to what we could be
individually.
379
00:22:34,749 --> 00:22:36,833
"To hell
with what my brothers think."
380
00:22:36,916 --> 00:22:39,499
And each one of US
was thinking that.
381
00:22:46,083 --> 00:22:47,292
To travel the world
when you're young
382
00:22:47,375 --> 00:22:48,458
with a family member
383
00:22:48,541 --> 00:22:50,875
gives you a certain sense
of who you are
384
00:22:50,958 --> 00:22:52,958
and where you've come from
and all that.
385
00:22:53,041 --> 00:22:56,167
So you kind of walk
that tightrope.
386
00:22:56,250 --> 00:22:58,208
We'd been together
all our lives, don't forget.
387
00:22:58,292 --> 00:22:59,875
We'd been together
since Robin and I were five,
388
00:22:59,958 --> 00:23:01,417
singing professionally.
389
00:23:01,499 --> 00:23:02,749
You know, it's a lot of years.
390
00:23:02,833 --> 00:23:05,041
We'd been kids living
together with each other
391
00:23:05,125 --> 00:23:06,708
right up until
the time we arrived
392
00:23:06,791 --> 00:23:09,375
and even after we arrived
in england.
393
00:23:14,458 --> 00:23:15,708
Robin was first to say,
394
00:23:15,791 --> 00:23:18,541
"well, I'm quitting
the group."
395
00:23:18,624 --> 00:23:22,499
I stopped really knowing Robin
396
00:23:22,583 --> 00:23:26,250
and his personal life
once we became famous.
397
00:23:26,333 --> 00:23:27,708
And the same with mo.
398
00:23:27,791 --> 00:23:31,375
Our three lives were
three different lives.
399
00:23:31,458 --> 00:23:33,666
We were no longer living
the same life.
400
00:23:40,791 --> 00:23:42,208
Brothers...
401
00:23:42,292 --> 00:23:44,749
In general,
it's a very complicated thing,
402
00:23:44,833 --> 00:23:46,875
you know?
403
00:23:46,958 --> 00:23:48,208
Emotions are heightened,
404
00:23:48,292 --> 00:23:52,167
and there's things that go back
to childhood about, you know,
405
00:23:52,250 --> 00:23:54,833
if one kid got more attention
than the other,
406
00:23:54,916 --> 00:23:56,708
and all these things play out
407
00:23:56,791 --> 00:23:58,541
in front of just a small group
of friends,
408
00:23:58,624 --> 00:24:00,875
but when you magnify that
with the whole world,
409
00:24:00,958 --> 00:24:02,791
it changes the game
a little bit.
410
00:24:02,875 --> 00:24:04,875
Robin, that's a good picture.
411
00:24:04,958 --> 00:24:07,583
That's you, Barry,
Colin, Vince.
412
00:24:07,666 --> 00:24:09,749
That's correct, yes.
Do you miss 'em?
413
00:24:09,833 --> 00:24:11,125
Well, it's not really
a matter
414
00:24:11,208 --> 00:24:12,458
of missing them, really.
415
00:24:12,541 --> 00:24:14,083
But I still see them
on and off, you know,
416
00:24:14,167 --> 00:24:16,125
so that's the way things go.
417
00:24:16,208 --> 00:24:18,000
I'll show you
the studio anyway.
418
00:24:21,417 --> 00:24:24,624
It was really me and Robin
that were in conflict,
419
00:24:24,708 --> 00:24:26,624
and I think
Maurice was in the middle.
420
00:24:26,708 --> 00:24:28,458
Story of my life, really.
421
00:24:28,541 --> 00:24:29,499
Barry would call me up
and say,
422
00:24:29,583 --> 00:24:30,666
"well, can you call Robin
and tell him
423
00:24:30,749 --> 00:24:31,791
if he wants to do this?"
424
00:24:31,875 --> 00:24:33,125
And Robin would go,
"well, give Barry a call
425
00:24:33,208 --> 00:24:34,292
and let him know
that I'm gonna be over."
426
00:24:34,375 --> 00:24:35,624
I said,
"Robin, you call Barry."
427
00:24:35,708 --> 00:24:36,958
"Barry, you call Robin."
428
00:24:37,041 --> 00:24:39,125
And they both said,
"no, we won't."
429
00:24:39,208 --> 00:24:41,000
And for 18 months,
they never did.
430
00:24:41,083 --> 00:24:42,833
We had this fascination
431
00:24:42,916 --> 00:24:46,250
with calling
the newspapers up.
432
00:24:46,333 --> 00:24:49,417
You called "nme" or you called
"disc" or "music echo"
433
00:24:49,499 --> 00:24:50,791
and you'd say...
434
00:24:50,875 --> 00:24:52,583
"Robin said this about me,
and I just wanna be able
435
00:24:52,666 --> 00:24:55,167
to correct the record,"
and all that stuff.
436
00:24:55,250 --> 00:24:57,583
It was a whole
strange episode of our lives,
437
00:24:57,666 --> 00:25:00,292
but a lot of things
had gone down at that time,
438
00:25:00,375 --> 00:25:04,000
and we needed time apart
to think about them.
439
00:25:04,083 --> 00:25:06,541
At caxton hall,
vip transport
440
00:25:06,624 --> 00:25:09,208
for very important pop star
Barry gibb.
441
00:25:09,292 --> 00:25:10,333
He's getting married
442
00:25:10,417 --> 00:25:12,167
to 20yearold
former miss Edinburgh
443
00:25:12,250 --> 00:25:13,833
Linda gray.
444
00:25:16,417 --> 00:25:18,708
Their world was crazy
at that time.
445
00:25:18,791 --> 00:25:20,833
You know, at one time,
there was three brothers,
446
00:25:20,916 --> 00:25:24,167
and then all of a sudden,
it was three wives.
447
00:25:24,250 --> 00:25:27,000
Maurice gibb and Lulu
became Mr. and Mrs.
448
00:25:27,083 --> 00:25:28,791
At St. James' parish church
449
00:25:28,875 --> 00:25:31,333
at gerrards cross
in buckinghamshire.
450
00:25:31,417 --> 00:25:34,541
You think,
by marrying someone
451
00:25:34,624 --> 00:25:37,375
that you absolutely adore,
452
00:25:37,458 --> 00:25:39,708
you think it's gonna solve
all your problems,
453
00:25:39,791 --> 00:25:42,499
but really... At caxton hall,
455
00:25:42,583 --> 00:25:45,083
Robin gibb of the Bee Gees
marries Molly hullis.
456
00:25:46,458 --> 00:25:48,541
Molly was
my first real love.
457
00:25:48,624 --> 00:25:50,417
The first serious one.
458
00:25:50,499 --> 00:25:52,375
But it was
a very traumatic time for me.
459
00:25:55,458 --> 00:25:57,583
I went with my manager.
460
00:25:57,666 --> 00:25:59,000
He said, "look, Robin,
461
00:25:59,083 --> 00:26:00,583
I'm gonna send you
to New Zealand."
462
00:26:00,666 --> 00:26:03,666
He says, "you're doing
the redwood park festival."
463
00:26:03,749 --> 00:26:04,833
So I went there,
and of course,
464
00:26:04,916 --> 00:26:06,583
it was advertised
that the Bee Gees were coming,
465
00:26:06,666 --> 00:26:08,041
not just Robin gibb, you see.
466
00:26:11,791 --> 00:26:13,833
All right.
Okay.
467
00:26:13,916 --> 00:26:16,208
How'd you feel last night?
468
00:26:16,292 --> 00:26:17,583
I have an obligation
to my audience
469
00:26:17,666 --> 00:26:19,041
not to look scared, and...
470
00:26:19,125 --> 00:26:22,250
I can't say
I really felt scared.
471
00:26:22,333 --> 00:26:23,458
I was terrified.
472
00:26:37,791 --> 00:26:40,041
All three of US
became isolated,
473
00:26:40,125 --> 00:26:44,083
and all three of US
did things to each other
474
00:26:44,167 --> 00:26:46,083
that I think
we're all sorry for.
475
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:50,083
We loved each other.
476
00:26:50,167 --> 00:26:52,624
There was an enormous amount
of love between US.
477
00:26:52,708 --> 00:26:54,749
Growing up,
we did everything together.
478
00:26:54,833 --> 00:26:57,375
We often thought
we were triplets.
479
00:26:57,458 --> 00:27:00,125
Because we all had
the same love.
480
00:27:00,208 --> 00:27:01,208
We had the same sense of humor.
481
00:27:01,292 --> 00:27:03,375
We had the same love
of the same kind of music.
482
00:27:03,458 --> 00:27:05,458
Just typical kids, you know?
483
00:27:05,541 --> 00:27:07,958
But the one thing
that no one else was doing
484
00:27:08,041 --> 00:27:09,458
was that we were singing
in Harmony,
485
00:27:09,541 --> 00:27:12,250
and beyond anything else,
that's all we cared about.
486
00:27:14,583 --> 00:27:16,916
We fell in love
with the mills brothers.
487
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,958
They all did something unique
in their own way.
488
00:27:20,041 --> 00:27:20,958
And at the same time,
489
00:27:21,041 --> 00:27:23,000
Robin and I did
two different leads,
490
00:27:23,083 --> 00:27:25,666
and Maurice would always know
where to put that other melody
491
00:27:25,749 --> 00:27:27,000
to make a threepart Harmony.
492
00:27:27,083 --> 00:27:29,791
They mirrored
what we wanted to be.
493
00:27:29,875 --> 00:27:32,458
Do you find you miss
Robin and Maurice musically?
494
00:27:32,541 --> 00:27:33,624
Yeah.
495
00:27:33,708 --> 00:27:35,749
Not musically.
496
00:27:35,833 --> 00:27:38,292
I miss them both as brothers.
497
00:27:38,375 --> 00:27:40,749
Something
about entering the world
498
00:27:40,833 --> 00:27:43,125
from the same place,
I think, has an effect
499
00:27:43,208 --> 00:27:44,916
on your ability
to sing together,
500
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:49,541
your creative awareness,
and your artistic voice.
501
00:27:49,624 --> 00:27:52,875
Could we see the Bee Gees
back together again?
502
00:27:52,958 --> 00:27:56,167
That's a very strong point
that it could be.
503
00:27:56,250 --> 00:27:57,333
I can't say definitely,
504
00:27:57,417 --> 00:27:59,875
but I'd like to see
the Bee Gees again.
505
00:28:02,458 --> 00:28:05,375
Mr. Epstein has been
unwell now for some months.
506
00:28:05,458 --> 00:28:07,458
And he's been in the habit
of taking tablets
507
00:28:07,541 --> 00:28:09,208
to help him sleep at night.
508
00:28:09,292 --> 00:28:11,292
He was found
in his secondfloor bedroom
509
00:28:11,375 --> 00:28:14,167
just after 2:00 this afternoon
by his housekeeper.
510
00:28:14,250 --> 00:28:17,666
When Brian died
and we restructured nems,
511
00:28:17,749 --> 00:28:19,333
Robert asked to become
512
00:28:19,417 --> 00:28:21,000
a more important
senior executive
513
00:28:21,083 --> 00:28:22,833
for the Beatles,
514
00:28:22,916 --> 00:28:24,708
and that wasn't acceptable
to them,
515
00:28:24,791 --> 00:28:28,250
so he then left the company
516
00:28:28,333 --> 00:28:31,875
and took with him Eric Clapton
and Bee Gees
517
00:28:31,958 --> 00:28:33,833
so he could start off
on his own.
518
00:28:33,916 --> 00:28:35,208
We were an asset.
519
00:28:35,292 --> 00:28:37,041
We were one of those people
Robert needed
520
00:28:37,125 --> 00:28:39,041
as an element of going public.
521
00:28:40,791 --> 00:28:42,375
It was at the launching
of the company
522
00:28:42,458 --> 00:28:43,958
where we started
to communicate again.
523
00:28:45,958 --> 00:28:47,916
And once we came back
together again,
524
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,666
we wrote "lonely days,"
525
00:28:49,749 --> 00:28:52,875
which reflected the idea
that we'd been broken up.
526
00:28:52,958 --> 00:28:56,708
We'd always been boys
going up together,
527
00:28:56,791 --> 00:28:59,208
and I think
we came back together as men.
528
00:28:59,292 --> 00:29:01,292
We respected
each other's opinions,
529
00:29:01,375 --> 00:29:02,875
which we didn't before that.
530
00:29:05,083 --> 00:29:06,208
If anything,
that was the good thing
531
00:29:06,292 --> 00:29:07,666
about the breakup.
532
00:29:12,875 --> 00:29:14,875
I had already started
a first verse and chorus.
533
00:29:14,958 --> 00:29:17,250
I knew what "how can you mend
a broken heart?" Was,
534
00:29:17,333 --> 00:29:19,125
but then Robin walks in.
535
00:29:19,208 --> 00:29:21,250
I said, "I'm just working
on this song.
536
00:29:21,333 --> 00:29:22,624
Do you wanna do it with me?"
537
00:29:22,708 --> 00:29:23,958
And he went,
"yeah, of course."
538
00:29:29,499 --> 00:29:31,458
We'd been apart
for two years.
539
00:29:31,541 --> 00:29:32,624
If we hadn't been brothers,
540
00:29:32,708 --> 00:29:34,208
we wouldn't have lasted
half an hour.
541
00:29:34,292 --> 00:29:36,250
It just wouldn't have happened.
542
00:29:44,958 --> 00:29:48,583
Things started to just improve
over time, you know?
543
00:29:52,333 --> 00:29:54,292
We became the Bee Gees again.
544
00:30:07,250 --> 00:30:08,749
We came back together,
and we made
545
00:30:08,833 --> 00:30:10,417
two number one records
in america,
546
00:30:10,499 --> 00:30:12,083
so we were on a bit of a high.
547
00:30:14,708 --> 00:30:17,292
But we were
not really that good
548
00:30:17,375 --> 00:30:20,958
when it came to just doing
anything without a pill,
549
00:30:21,041 --> 00:30:22,791
you know,
or without a drink.
550
00:30:22,875 --> 00:30:24,125
It was destroying US.
551
00:30:26,541 --> 00:30:29,333
And that became the battle,
552
00:30:29,417 --> 00:30:31,833
the fight to survive
being a pop group.
553
00:30:47,541 --> 00:30:50,292
Thank you very, very much
on behalf of my brothers,
554
00:30:50,375 --> 00:30:56,083
Robin and Maurice,
556
00:30:56,167 --> 00:30:59,417
and this beautiful orchestra,
557
00:30:59,499 --> 00:31:03,208
our lead guitarist,
Alan Kendall...
558
00:31:03,292 --> 00:31:04,333
Robert stigwood said,
559
00:31:04,417 --> 00:31:06,333
"the Bee Gees are gonna go
on a tour,
560
00:31:06,417 --> 00:31:08,666
and they want a guitar player
who can play bass as well,"
561
00:31:08,749 --> 00:31:10,666
'cause in those days,
562
00:31:10,749 --> 00:31:14,791
Maurice played bass, but he
would go on piano sometimes.
563
00:31:14,875 --> 00:31:18,499
And so I called him and I said,
"well, I can't play bass,"
564
00:31:18,583 --> 00:31:21,000
and he said,
"just say you can play bass,"
565
00:31:21,083 --> 00:31:23,083
so I said, "okay,
I can play bass."
566
00:31:25,958 --> 00:31:29,250
I'll be honest, I was
very much into the lifestyle.
567
00:31:29,333 --> 00:31:30,541
I just loved
being on the road.
568
00:31:30,624 --> 00:31:33,083
I loved playing music,
chasing women.
569
00:31:34,833 --> 00:31:36,000
Maurice is so funny,
570
00:31:36,083 --> 00:31:38,041
'cause he was good
at magic tricks,
571
00:31:38,125 --> 00:31:41,208
and he'd like
to drink a little, as I did.
572
00:31:41,292 --> 00:31:43,250
Robin, I never really knew.
573
00:31:43,333 --> 00:31:46,583
I mean, I'd converse with him
but not as much as the others.
574
00:31:46,666 --> 00:31:48,916
And I would bump into him
every now and then
575
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,875
wandering the corridors
of the hotel.
576
00:31:51,958 --> 00:31:55,041
And there's Barry
with his glamorous wife
577
00:31:55,125 --> 00:31:57,083
smoking a bowl, you know?
578
00:31:58,458 --> 00:32:00,916
My early days
with the Bee Gees
579
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,791
were, for me, thrilling,
580
00:32:03,875 --> 00:32:06,375
even though I can understand
why it wasn't for them,
581
00:32:06,458 --> 00:32:08,958
'cause they weren't
necessarily selling out.
582
00:32:11,708 --> 00:32:12,916
When we were broken up,
583
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,958
the world changed radically
very quickly.
584
00:32:16,041 --> 00:32:17,749
And that was the beginning
of the period
585
00:32:17,833 --> 00:32:20,583
when there was just
no interest in US at all.
586
00:32:20,666 --> 00:32:22,292
Remember, we were on tour.
587
00:32:22,375 --> 00:32:23,875
They'd try to keep Robin
588
00:32:23,958 --> 00:32:25,708
from looking out
into the audience,
589
00:32:25,791 --> 00:32:27,916
in case it was only half full.
590
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,541
When we got back home,
I turned to more drinking.
591
00:32:30,624 --> 00:32:33,583
I'd go to the pubs.
The police knew my car.
592
00:32:33,666 --> 00:32:36,583
I was becoming the town drunk.
593
00:32:36,666 --> 00:32:38,624
I mean, I think I had
about 2 grand in the bank
594
00:32:38,708 --> 00:32:40,833
and lived next order
to a fish and chips shop.
595
00:32:40,916 --> 00:32:42,916
So by '74,
596
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,292
we didn't think there was
gonna be much of a future.
597
00:32:46,375 --> 00:32:48,958
When you become famous,
you think everyone loves you
598
00:32:49,041 --> 00:32:50,250
and they're gonna love you
forever,
599
00:32:50,333 --> 00:32:51,624
and it's not true.
600
00:32:55,708 --> 00:32:57,292
All of a sudden now,
we had to work the clubs
601
00:32:57,375 --> 00:32:59,208
at the north of england
to pay the taxman,
602
00:32:59,292 --> 00:33:01,083
so we had
the sheffield fiesta,
603
00:33:01,167 --> 00:33:02,458
the golden garter
in Manchester,
604
00:33:02,541 --> 00:33:04,292
batley variety club,
605
00:33:04,375 --> 00:33:06,083
great clubs of our time.
606
00:33:06,167 --> 00:33:07,749
The batley thing,
607
00:33:07,833 --> 00:33:10,125
it's where all the hasbeens
went to play,
608
00:33:10,208 --> 00:33:11,624
and not saying
that they were hasbeens,
609
00:33:11,708 --> 00:33:14,292
but it was like, "god,
not batley," you know?
610
00:33:16,417 --> 00:33:19,375
I was a waitress
at the batley variety club.
611
00:33:19,458 --> 00:33:23,499
I really wasn't a fan
of the Bee Gees.
612
00:33:23,583 --> 00:33:25,708
The only thing I knew
about them was,
613
00:33:25,791 --> 00:33:26,791
you know, Maurice was mar
614
00:33:26,875 --> 00:33:29,541
well, he was going through
a divorce with Lulu.
615
00:33:29,624 --> 00:33:33,041
Yvonne came in,
and I saw her eyes.
616
00:33:33,125 --> 00:33:34,292
I don't know
about the rest of her.
617
00:33:34,375 --> 00:33:36,000
I just saw her eyes.
618
00:33:36,083 --> 00:33:39,000
And I said,
"I'm gonna marry her."
619
00:33:39,083 --> 00:33:41,583
And I knew
I was gonna marry her.
620
00:33:41,666 --> 00:33:43,125
He was so cute.
621
00:33:43,208 --> 00:33:45,833
His personality was amazing.
622
00:33:45,916 --> 00:33:47,624
Maurice had
this childlike quality,
623
00:33:47,708 --> 00:33:50,333
which is something
very special in men.
624
00:33:50,417 --> 00:33:53,708
He loved dressing up
in police uniforms.
625
00:33:53,791 --> 00:33:55,875
Wherever we went on tour,
626
00:33:55,958 --> 00:33:57,708
they'd give him a hat,
give him a badge.
627
00:33:57,791 --> 00:33:58,791
Is that his wallet?
It's a badge.
628
00:33:58,875 --> 00:34:00,333
Whoa!
629
00:34:00,417 --> 00:34:02,666
What was that?
I'm not showing you now.
630
00:34:02,749 --> 00:34:04,041
People loved him.
631
00:34:04,125 --> 00:34:05,875
He had the best smile ever.
632
00:34:05,958 --> 00:34:09,375
I remember him teaching me
the showbiz smile,
633
00:34:09,458 --> 00:34:10,875
and he said,
"well, the trick is,
634
00:34:10,958 --> 00:34:13,250
"you don't move your eyes
635
00:34:13,333 --> 00:34:15,583
and you just go like this."
636
00:34:17,458 --> 00:34:19,000
And I'll be honest with you,
637
00:34:19,083 --> 00:34:22,208
I think Maurice was the glue
that held it all together.
638
00:34:22,292 --> 00:34:24,000
I'm Mr. Fixit.
639
00:34:24,083 --> 00:34:27,083
Either some discrepancy
between Barry and Robin,
640
00:34:27,167 --> 00:34:28,916
or if we're gonna make
a decision about something,
641
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:30,375
"well, what does
Maurice think?"
642
00:34:30,458 --> 00:34:33,708
But most of the time,
I'm like my mum.
643
00:34:33,791 --> 00:34:34,916
I'm the peacemaker.
644
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:36,708
You know,
if they'd not been brothers,
645
00:34:36,791 --> 00:34:38,875
they would not be together.
646
00:34:38,958 --> 00:34:41,250
No doubt in my mind.
647
00:34:46,125 --> 00:34:48,250
I met the Gibbs
when they were on a bit of a
648
00:34:48,333 --> 00:34:50,125
shall we say, a downturn
in their career.
649
00:34:50,208 --> 00:34:51,624
Robert stigwood made me,
650
00:34:51,708 --> 00:34:53,624
unaccountably,
the head of his record label.
651
00:34:53,708 --> 00:34:55,916
I was only 21 years old.
652
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,417
I truly believed
it was because I was
653
00:34:57,499 --> 00:34:59,791
the only guy in the room
that I got the job.
654
00:34:59,875 --> 00:35:00,916
It was odd to me
because I thought,
655
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:02,041
"if they can write those songs,
656
00:35:02,125 --> 00:35:03,791
how come they can't
be consistent?"
657
00:35:03,875 --> 00:35:05,083
If you got the ability
to write
658
00:35:05,167 --> 00:35:06,250
"how can you mend
a broken heart?"
659
00:35:06,333 --> 00:35:07,541
And "to love somebody,"
660
00:35:07,624 --> 00:35:09,583
where does that talent go?
661
00:35:09,666 --> 00:35:13,208
I mean, there was two albums
in a row that were dismal.
662
00:35:13,292 --> 00:35:15,292
Ahmet ertegun
said to Robert,
663
00:35:15,375 --> 00:35:17,250
"you know,
maybe their time has gone,"
664
00:35:17,333 --> 00:35:18,749
'cause it was Atlantic
who were paying
665
00:35:18,833 --> 00:35:19,958
for these recordings,
666
00:35:20,041 --> 00:35:22,250
and Robert wouldn't hear of it,
of course.
667
00:35:22,333 --> 00:35:24,125
He would never let
the Bee Gees go.
668
00:35:24,208 --> 00:35:27,833
There was this thing
about stigwood
669
00:35:27,916 --> 00:35:31,417
stigwood and his loyalties.
670
00:35:31,499 --> 00:35:33,666
I had a kind
of deepseated resentment
671
00:35:33,749 --> 00:35:37,458
about the fact that,
you know, they were still
672
00:35:37,541 --> 00:35:38,499
his favorite.
673
00:35:42,417 --> 00:35:44,833
I had come
out of a long period
674
00:35:44,916 --> 00:35:46,624
of addiction and alcoholism,
675
00:35:46,708 --> 00:35:49,583
and I went into
the sort of recovery period.
676
00:35:51,250 --> 00:35:54,292
All these musical ambitions
came to the surface,
677
00:35:54,375 --> 00:35:57,666
so I went to Miami to record.
678
00:36:00,958 --> 00:36:02,125
We had a conversation
with Eric
679
00:36:02,208 --> 00:36:03,958
about making a comeback.
680
00:36:04,041 --> 00:36:05,167
Eric said, "well,
I've just made this album
681
00:36:05,250 --> 00:36:07,749
"called '461 ocean boulevard'
in Miami.
682
00:36:07,833 --> 00:36:09,333
"Why don't you guys
make an album in america
683
00:36:09,417 --> 00:36:11,499
"instead of always
making an album in england,
684
00:36:11,583 --> 00:36:13,417
"and maybe the change
of environment
685
00:36:13,499 --> 00:36:15,666
will do something for you?"
686
00:36:15,749 --> 00:36:18,041
The studio there
was unbelievable,
687
00:36:18,125 --> 00:36:21,666
and I think that's what
688
00:36:21,749 --> 00:36:23,833
the suggestion was about,
really.
689
00:36:23,916 --> 00:36:27,833
I thought those guys
were actually an R&B band
690
00:36:27,916 --> 00:36:30,541
that hadn't really
worked that out yet.
691
00:36:30,624 --> 00:36:32,833
And I thought,
"man, this would be so good
692
00:36:32,916 --> 00:36:36,000
if they could pick up
on what's going on in america."
693
00:36:36,083 --> 00:36:39,624
I do know that they had
to change something.
694
00:36:39,708 --> 00:36:40,833
That's when the whole idea
695
00:36:40,916 --> 00:36:43,958
of actually being
more of a band together
696
00:36:44,041 --> 00:36:45,125
rather than, you know,
697
00:36:45,208 --> 00:36:47,499
musicians and orchestras
and all that stuff.
698
00:36:49,375 --> 00:36:51,375
Alan Kendall,
who was a friend of mine,
699
00:36:51,458 --> 00:36:54,624
said, "the Bee Gees
are looking for a drummer.
700
00:36:54,708 --> 00:36:56,916
You know, are you interested?"
701
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,708
And I went, "yes."
702
00:36:59,791 --> 00:37:02,624
"I think I'm interested.
Yeah. I am interested."
703
00:37:02,708 --> 00:37:05,208
We needed to get
more energized
704
00:37:05,292 --> 00:37:06,708
and don't rely so much
705
00:37:06,791 --> 00:37:09,083
on the ballads
that we had been doing.
706
00:37:09,167 --> 00:37:12,041
We wanted to be a band
so bad,
707
00:37:12,125 --> 00:37:14,041
and that was basically
the birth of it.
708
00:37:14,125 --> 00:37:16,875
We had a great bass player,
Maurice.
709
00:37:16,958 --> 00:37:19,041
We had a great guitar player,
Alan.
710
00:37:19,125 --> 00:37:20,541
So really,
the only thing we needed
711
00:37:20,624 --> 00:37:22,375
was a keyboard player,
712
00:37:22,458 --> 00:37:24,375
and I thought, "blue."
713
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:32,708
Dennis called and said,
714
00:37:32,791 --> 00:37:34,375
"look, you know,
I'm putting a band together
715
00:37:34,458 --> 00:37:35,624
"with the Bee Gees,
716
00:37:35,708 --> 00:37:39,167
"and I've spoken to Barry,
and everybody's in agreement.
717
00:37:39,250 --> 00:37:40,916
Are you interested?"
718
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:42,749
I said, "no. No.
719
00:37:42,833 --> 00:37:45,916
I'm having great fun.
I'm in a rock and roll band."
720
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:47,708
Queen was our support act.
721
00:37:47,791 --> 00:37:50,749
I'm touring america and living
the rock and roll life.
722
00:37:57,958 --> 00:38:01,041
We'd grown up together
playing in bands in Cardiff.
723
00:38:01,125 --> 00:38:02,417
I said,
"we've known each other
724
00:38:02,499 --> 00:38:03,541
for a long time, right?"
725
00:38:03,624 --> 00:38:06,333
He said,
"den, don't do this to me."
726
00:38:06,417 --> 00:38:08,417
And I said,
"I am doing it to you."
727
00:38:08,499 --> 00:38:10,541
I said, "just do me one favor:
728
00:38:10,624 --> 00:38:12,417
"Meet Barry.
729
00:38:12,499 --> 00:38:15,791
"And after you've met Barry,
if you don't wanna do it,
730
00:38:15,875 --> 00:38:17,624
I'll leave you alone."
731
00:38:19,208 --> 00:38:21,292
Maurice and I had moved
to the Isle of Man,
732
00:38:21,375 --> 00:38:22,958
which is where we were born.
733
00:38:23,041 --> 00:38:25,916
Blue was the guy who was gonna
come to the Isle of Man
734
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,167
and audition for US on piano.
735
00:38:32,875 --> 00:38:34,583
We were staying
in Barry's house,
736
00:38:34,666 --> 00:38:37,624
and it was Linda,
and then Maurice came over
737
00:38:37,708 --> 00:38:40,292
and huey, the father.
738
00:38:40,375 --> 00:38:43,000
Instantly, you feel
comfortable with them.
739
00:38:43,083 --> 00:38:45,417
They started talking
about synthesizers
740
00:38:45,499 --> 00:38:49,749
and moogs, and blue had them all.
742
00:38:49,833 --> 00:38:51,583
There's the sunday evening
I was leaving,
743
00:38:51,666 --> 00:38:55,083
and huey said, "hey,
we haven't heard you play."
744
00:38:56,250 --> 00:38:58,833
But my piano was so bad
745
00:38:58,916 --> 00:39:02,000
that he played something
and it just sounded awful.
746
00:39:02,083 --> 00:39:04,624
It was just, like,
totally embarrassing.
747
00:39:04,708 --> 00:39:07,000
I said, "sounds fine
to me, man.
748
00:39:07,083 --> 00:39:08,292
Let's do it," you know?
749
00:39:08,375 --> 00:39:10,000
Barry offered him the job.
750
00:39:10,083 --> 00:39:12,208
I'd always loved the music,
751
00:39:12,292 --> 00:39:14,666
but the first time
you ever hear the Bee Gees
752
00:39:14,749 --> 00:39:16,499
just when they're in a room
like this,
753
00:39:16,583 --> 00:39:18,167
you know, it's just magic.
754
00:39:18,250 --> 00:39:20,833
I think that's
what won me over with them.
755
00:39:20,916 --> 00:39:22,083
I said yes,
756
00:39:22,167 --> 00:39:25,167
and January the 1st, we left.
757
00:39:51,583 --> 00:39:53,250
Miami's a gateway city,
758
00:39:53,333 --> 00:39:56,041
but in those days,
it was kind of sleepy.
759
00:39:56,125 --> 00:39:59,333
You know, a little off
the beaten path.
760
00:39:59,417 --> 00:40:01,916
But in the winter,
that was the place to be,
761
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,875
so Atlantic records
would always book their acts
762
00:40:04,958 --> 00:40:06,541
down at criteria.
763
00:40:08,666 --> 00:40:10,250
I was about
the number three engineer
764
00:40:10,333 --> 00:40:11,375
at the studio.
765
00:40:11,458 --> 00:40:12,499
I worked my way up,
766
00:40:12,583 --> 00:40:14,833
and I was at that point
in my career
767
00:40:14,916 --> 00:40:17,167
where I was ready for anything.
768
00:40:24,833 --> 00:40:26,791
When we got to Miami,
all of a sudden, sunshine,
769
00:40:26,875 --> 00:40:28,708
and, you know?
770
00:40:28,791 --> 00:40:30,458
This is paradise.
771
00:40:30,541 --> 00:40:31,541
We'd come from england,
772
00:40:31,624 --> 00:40:34,083
and so there was nothing
sleepy about america.
773
00:40:34,167 --> 00:40:36,250
Put them in the same house
I'd rented for Eric Clapton,
774
00:40:36,333 --> 00:40:38,417
461 ocean boulevard.
775
00:40:38,499 --> 00:40:39,958
I think the first thing
all of US did was
776
00:40:40,041 --> 00:40:41,958
take pictures against
that palm tree, you know,
777
00:40:42,041 --> 00:40:44,250
doing the Eric Clapton pose.
778
00:40:47,167 --> 00:40:48,541
Being in that house
together,
779
00:40:48,624 --> 00:40:50,292
you know, we were creative,
780
00:40:50,375 --> 00:40:51,292
and we were a family.
781
00:40:51,375 --> 00:40:53,083
I mean, I felt like that.
782
00:40:53,167 --> 00:40:55,041
It did make US close.
783
00:40:55,125 --> 00:40:58,041
I mean, you had to be.
And we'd all watch TV at night.
784
00:40:58,125 --> 00:41:00,083
The chemistry
was very exciting.
785
00:41:00,167 --> 00:41:01,292
When you got up
in the morning,
786
00:41:01,375 --> 00:41:02,958
you went to breakfast;
You had a cup of tea.
787
00:41:03,041 --> 00:41:05,833
It was all very relaxed.
788
00:41:11,250 --> 00:41:13,624
It was strange, considering
the amount of pressure
789
00:41:13,708 --> 00:41:16,083
that was really on the Bee Gees
at that time.
790
00:41:16,167 --> 00:41:17,541
They were about to drop US.
791
00:41:17,624 --> 00:41:19,417
We had to adopt a new sound.
792
00:41:19,499 --> 00:41:21,167
We had to adopt
a new attitude.
793
00:41:21,250 --> 00:41:23,624
So the next step was,
we brought arif mardin in
794
00:41:23,708 --> 00:41:24,791
to produce them.
795
00:41:28,875 --> 00:41:30,125
We'd often work
with other people,
796
00:41:30,208 --> 00:41:31,499
but they weren't producers,
797
00:41:31,583 --> 00:41:34,000
and this man
was a literal producer.
798
00:41:34,083 --> 00:41:36,417
They had expressed
how much they wanted to do
799
00:41:36,499 --> 00:41:38,250
American R&B kind of stuff,
800
00:41:38,333 --> 00:41:41,000
and arif was, you know,
top of the heap for that.
801
00:41:41,083 --> 00:41:44,208
Arif was so instrumental
in producing black artists,
802
00:41:44,292 --> 00:41:45,666
and we wanted that input.
803
00:41:51,375 --> 00:41:54,333
We actually did an album
with arif before that,
804
00:41:54,417 --> 00:41:57,000
but arif said, "we've gotta go
more into R&B,"
805
00:41:57,083 --> 00:41:58,791
and we started
working together
806
00:41:58,875 --> 00:42:02,083
right here in Miami,
down at criteria.
807
00:42:03,083 --> 00:42:05,000
Well, I was in studio b,
808
00:42:05,083 --> 00:42:06,875
and arif says to me,
809
00:42:06,958 --> 00:42:09,875
"Carl, have I got a group
for you."
810
00:42:09,958 --> 00:42:12,666
And of course, everybody knew
the Bee Gees.
811
00:42:12,749 --> 00:42:14,833
It was a surprise
out of nowhere.
812
00:42:14,916 --> 00:42:16,000
I was excited.
813
00:42:16,083 --> 00:42:17,250
You know,
they sing like angels.
814
00:42:17,333 --> 00:42:20,125
And they were as excited
as I was.
815
00:42:20,208 --> 00:42:22,333
And arif was right in there
with them.
816
00:42:22,417 --> 00:42:23,499
He said, "look,
817
00:42:23,583 --> 00:42:25,916
"if you're ever going
to break out brandnew,
818
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:27,083
"you gotta start now.
819
00:42:27,167 --> 00:42:28,417
"You gotta shock the pants
off these people
820
00:42:28,499 --> 00:42:29,708
who don't believe in you."
821
00:42:29,791 --> 00:42:32,541
Robert came and saw US
when we were making the album,
822
00:42:32,624 --> 00:42:35,499
sat down with US on the beach,
and said, "right.
823
00:42:35,583 --> 00:42:37,250
"We're gonna start
from scratch.
824
00:42:37,333 --> 00:42:38,791
"This is gonna be it.
825
00:42:38,875 --> 00:42:40,083
Let's make it big."
826
00:42:42,125 --> 00:42:44,250
If you said to me or anyone,
827
00:42:44,333 --> 00:42:46,875
"just go and write a hit song
right now,"
828
00:42:46,958 --> 00:42:48,708
they would be able to craft
something good,
829
00:42:48,791 --> 00:42:51,000
but it would probably be
missing this magic
830
00:42:51,083 --> 00:42:53,208
that, if you work in music
long enough,
831
00:42:53,292 --> 00:42:56,791
you understand
is running everything.
832
00:42:56,875 --> 00:42:59,708
Like surfers with waves.
Surfers don't make the waves.
833
00:42:59,791 --> 00:43:01,833
Fishermen don't make the fish.
834
00:43:01,916 --> 00:43:03,333
Songwriters don't really
write songs.
835
00:43:03,417 --> 00:43:04,749
You receive songs.
836
00:43:06,499 --> 00:43:08,916
Driving backwards
and forwards to criteria,
837
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,417
this clickityclick thing
was going on in this bridge
838
00:43:11,499 --> 00:43:13,292
every time we crossed over it.
839
00:43:13,375 --> 00:43:14,708
And in my head,
it sounded like,
840
00:43:14,791 --> 00:43:15,749
"ch, chch, chch."
841
00:43:19,208 --> 00:43:20,708
And it was gone.
842
00:43:20,791 --> 00:43:23,749
And eventually, I started
singing to it in my head.
843
00:43:26,749 --> 00:43:28,083
I remember going
to the studio.
844
00:43:28,167 --> 00:43:30,624
Barry said, "can you do
chicken picking, Alan?"
845
00:43:30,708 --> 00:43:33,583
I didn't really know
what it was.
846
00:43:33,666 --> 00:43:35,708
So I just played this one note
and muted it.
847
00:43:35,791 --> 00:43:37,083
Thought it sounded
like a chicken.
848
00:43:39,958 --> 00:43:41,250
And mixed
with Barry's rhythm part,
849
00:43:41,333 --> 00:43:43,208
it really worked, you know?
850
00:44:01,083 --> 00:44:02,125
At that time, you know,
851
00:44:02,208 --> 00:44:04,499
a handful of R&B artists
were using synthesizers,
852
00:44:04,583 --> 00:44:08,125
so we went into this field
853
00:44:08,208 --> 00:44:10,499
pioneering, in a way.
854
00:44:14,749 --> 00:44:18,499
Music is this huge energy
flying around everywhere,
855
00:44:18,583 --> 00:44:20,791
and if you're lucky,
you get little slices of it
856
00:44:20,875 --> 00:44:21,916
that turn into songs.
857
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:23,083
There is a sort of
858
00:44:23,167 --> 00:44:25,167
like a radio transmitter.
It's exactly like that.
859
00:44:25,250 --> 00:44:26,791
It's almost as if
somebody's already written
860
00:44:26,875 --> 00:44:28,916
the songs in the air
and they're giving them to US.
861
00:44:35,916 --> 00:44:37,041
It was Robert
who really pressed
862
00:44:37,125 --> 00:44:39,333
for "jive talkin'" to come out
as the first single,
863
00:44:39,417 --> 00:44:41,875
because it was something
totally unexpected from US.
864
00:44:41,958 --> 00:44:43,125
We sent the record out
865
00:44:43,208 --> 00:44:44,666
but without naming
the Bee Gees on it,
866
00:44:44,749 --> 00:44:48,167
because by then,
their stock had fallen so low
867
00:44:48,250 --> 00:44:49,875
with radio stations
in america,
868
00:44:49,958 --> 00:44:52,167
and within hours
869
00:44:52,250 --> 00:44:53,624
of the record landing
at all the radio stations,
870
00:44:53,708 --> 00:44:55,000
they were calling in, saying,
"who is this?
871
00:44:55,083 --> 00:44:56,458
This is amazing."
872
00:44:59,375 --> 00:45:01,833
The British group who move
into number one this week
873
00:45:01,916 --> 00:45:02,833
hit number one
874
00:45:02,916 --> 00:45:05,292
exactly four years ago
to the week.
875
00:45:06,458 --> 00:45:09,167
The brandnew number one song
in the usa,
876
00:45:09,250 --> 00:45:12,041
the Bee Gees
and "jive talkin'."
877
00:45:16,875 --> 00:45:18,375
When "jive talkin'"
came out,
878
00:45:18,458 --> 00:45:19,624
everybody went, "who?
879
00:45:19,708 --> 00:45:21,541
"The Bee Gees?
'Broken heart' Bee Gees?
880
00:45:21,624 --> 00:45:22,916
Are you kidding?"
881
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:24,541
Something different
was happening,
882
00:45:24,624 --> 00:45:26,167
and the brothers felt it too.
883
00:45:26,250 --> 00:45:27,417
Miami, Miami beach,
884
00:45:27,499 --> 00:45:29,499
that whole vibe
turned them on.
885
00:45:29,583 --> 00:45:31,875
I just fell in love
with the atmosphere here.
886
00:45:31,958 --> 00:45:34,749
It reminded me so much
of growing up in Australia.
887
00:45:35,624 --> 00:45:36,833
That's great, Rob.
888
00:45:36,916 --> 00:45:38,875
And from "jive talkin'"
onwards,
889
00:45:38,958 --> 00:45:40,875
we kicked it up.
890
00:45:40,958 --> 00:45:43,167
The songwriting was
just very unique.
891
00:45:43,250 --> 00:45:44,333
Nothing like it.
892
00:45:44,417 --> 00:45:45,708
They would write on the spot,
893
00:45:45,791 --> 00:45:47,875
and they would bounce
off each other.
894
00:45:47,958 --> 00:45:50,417
Okay, you let US know
when you're ready.
895
00:45:50,499 --> 00:45:52,208
"Nights on Broadway"
was one of those.
896
00:45:52,292 --> 00:45:54,292
The guys had been to New York,
and they go, "this is
897
00:45:54,375 --> 00:45:56,250
we gotta write
a New York kind of song."
898
00:45:56,333 --> 00:45:57,833
Here we go.
Take ten.
899
00:45:57,916 --> 00:45:59,916
They just did it naturally
in the studio,
900
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:01,417
and everybody chipped in.
901
00:46:01,499 --> 00:46:02,458
Three, four.
902
00:46:13,624 --> 00:46:15,583
Ahmet ertegun came to Miami.
903
00:46:15,666 --> 00:46:18,083
He was there when we were
cutting "nights on Broadway."
904
00:46:18,167 --> 00:46:20,458
At the time,
it was "lights on Broadway."
905
00:46:25,958 --> 00:46:28,458
And ahmet went, "no."
906
00:46:28,541 --> 00:46:30,791
He said, "you know,
you've got to get more adult
907
00:46:30,875 --> 00:46:32,375
about the song."
908
00:46:32,458 --> 00:46:34,749
So "lights on Broadway"
became "nights on Broadway."
909
00:47:04,791 --> 00:47:06,250
We were completing
"nights on Broadway."
910
00:47:06,333 --> 00:47:08,167
We'd just done
most of the vocal tracks.
911
00:47:08,250 --> 00:47:09,499
Usually, you know,
at the end, you know,
912
00:47:09,583 --> 00:47:11,167
you have some adlibs
or some kind of thing
913
00:47:11,250 --> 00:47:12,666
to take US away
from the original melody
914
00:47:12,749 --> 00:47:13,958
and have some fun.
915
00:47:14,041 --> 00:47:15,666
Arif suggested to the band,
916
00:47:15,749 --> 00:47:18,167
"hey, you know, we really need
some kind of background parts
917
00:47:18,250 --> 00:47:21,375
that come in and express
the meaning of the song."
918
00:47:21,458 --> 00:47:23,833
He was looking for one of US
to scream,
919
00:47:23,916 --> 00:47:25,875
in tune, if possible.
920
00:47:25,958 --> 00:47:28,208
I said, "I'll go out
and give it a shot."
921
00:47:28,292 --> 00:47:30,624
Are we almost ready?
Let's do it.
922
00:47:30,708 --> 00:47:32,000
So he went out there
and he did
923
00:47:32,083 --> 00:47:35,666
the "blaming it alls."
924
00:47:41,083 --> 00:47:42,875
Everybody in the control room
woke up,
925
00:47:42,958 --> 00:47:45,666
and it was like,
"this is a new sound."
926
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:51,333
I was thinking,
"my god, I don't
927
00:47:51,417 --> 00:47:52,458
"where is this coming from?
928
00:47:52,541 --> 00:47:53,499
I can do this."
929
00:47:53,583 --> 00:47:55,958
My whole life, I didn't know
I could do this.
930
00:47:56,041 --> 00:47:57,333
Everybody's giving me credit.
931
00:47:57,458 --> 00:47:59,583
No, he was singing it.
I said, "keep on doing it."
932
00:48:07,250 --> 00:48:09,083
Arif brought it out of US,
all that.
933
00:48:09,167 --> 00:48:10,708
I mean, we weren't the first
to sing falsetto.
934
00:48:14,624 --> 00:48:15,708
We loved the stylistics.
935
00:48:15,791 --> 00:48:18,708
We loved the spinners,
the delfonics.
936
00:48:18,791 --> 00:48:21,333
They were all
falsetto lead singers.
937
00:48:29,292 --> 00:48:31,250
There's something to be said
about all music
938
00:48:31,333 --> 00:48:33,541
is that it doesn't happen
in a vacuum.
939
00:48:33,624 --> 00:48:37,208
The falsetto is very much
a black tradition,
940
00:48:37,292 --> 00:48:38,541
but they've translated it
941
00:48:38,624 --> 00:48:42,624
into this interesting
interpretation of soul.
942
00:48:42,708 --> 00:48:44,458
But I guess
more importantly for me,
943
00:48:44,541 --> 00:48:45,458
it's emotional.
944
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:52,417
Because we were so excited
about this,
945
00:48:52,499 --> 00:48:54,791
we started writing songs
for this voice.
946
00:48:54,875 --> 00:48:57,250
It created another dimension
of sound
947
00:48:57,333 --> 00:48:59,417
that's what we thought
you know, emotionally.
948
00:48:59,499 --> 00:49:02,875
It became another icon
of the Gibbs.
949
00:49:02,958 --> 00:49:05,417
Everybody knew,
when you heard that falsetto,
950
00:49:05,499 --> 00:49:07,041
that's the Bee Gees.
951
00:49:16,499 --> 00:49:17,749
When we sing songs like...
952
00:49:21,708 --> 00:49:23,499
It's Barry and Robin
singing in unison.
953
00:49:23,583 --> 00:49:27,000
But they mesh together so well
that it sounds like one voice.
954
00:49:27,083 --> 00:49:30,125
But it's a different voice
from them separately.
955
00:49:38,875 --> 00:49:40,916
It's delivered
with such delicacy,
956
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:45,624
and the message in the lyrics
957
00:49:45,708 --> 00:49:49,624
was what guys should say,
didn't say, couldn't say,
958
00:49:49,708 --> 00:49:50,791
for whatever reasons.
959
00:49:50,875 --> 00:49:52,624
It's the kind of music
you might've bought
960
00:49:52,708 --> 00:49:53,749
and given to your girlfriend.
961
00:49:55,083 --> 00:49:57,333
But that's what was special
about them.
962
00:49:57,417 --> 00:50:00,958
Both:
963
00:50:04,624 --> 00:50:07,167
"Main course" became
a turning point for US.
964
00:50:07,250 --> 00:50:08,958
Dennis bryon on drums
965
00:50:09,041 --> 00:50:12,000
and blue Weaver
and Alan Kendall,
966
00:50:12,083 --> 00:50:13,708
that became our band.
967
00:50:23,375 --> 00:50:26,708
One of their best qualities
was adaptability.
968
00:50:26,791 --> 00:50:30,833
In many ways,
they were chameleons of pop.
969
00:50:30,916 --> 00:50:32,333
The way they changed
970
00:50:32,417 --> 00:50:34,458
and the groove
they got into there
971
00:50:34,541 --> 00:50:36,499
was so profound.
972
00:50:36,583 --> 00:50:40,000
If that was something
that was initiated by me,
973
00:50:40,083 --> 00:50:41,083
I can't think of any
974
00:50:41,167 --> 00:50:43,833
one of the great things
I've done in my life.
975
00:50:43,916 --> 00:50:45,583
I'll take full credit.
976
00:50:54,167 --> 00:50:57,583
We're getting ready
to record the next album,
977
00:50:57,666 --> 00:50:58,666
and we get this phone call
978
00:50:58,749 --> 00:51:01,666
that arif can't be involved
in this album.
979
00:51:04,083 --> 00:51:06,375
Robert chose to take
980
00:51:06,458 --> 00:51:08,417
the organization away
from Atlantic records
981
00:51:08,499 --> 00:51:11,041
and go private.
982
00:51:11,125 --> 00:51:13,333
Atlantic, who were not happy
about that, said,
983
00:51:13,417 --> 00:51:14,708
"well, you're not using
arif anymore
984
00:51:14,791 --> 00:51:16,375
as a house producer."
985
00:51:16,458 --> 00:51:18,041
I said,
"what about the next album?"
986
00:51:18,125 --> 00:51:19,583
Arifyou know, I said,
987
00:51:19,666 --> 00:51:21,916
"who do you think can continue
where you left off?"
988
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:25,749
I got a call from Barry,
989
00:51:25,833 --> 00:51:27,791
and he said,
"I want my studio time back
990
00:51:27,875 --> 00:51:28,958
and I wanna work with you."
991
00:51:33,333 --> 00:51:35,000
And I'm in the control room.
992
00:51:35,083 --> 00:51:36,708
I said to Dennis, the drummer,
I says, you know,
993
00:51:36,791 --> 00:51:37,875
"that pattern you're playing
right now
994
00:51:37,958 --> 00:51:39,583
is just a little too busy."
995
00:51:41,833 --> 00:51:43,417
He said,
"well, what do you mean?"
996
00:51:43,499 --> 00:51:45,458
I said, "I can't get
into specifics
997
00:51:45,541 --> 00:51:47,250
about the note values."
998
00:51:47,333 --> 00:51:50,250
I didn't have a technical term
for the open and closed hihat
999
00:51:50,333 --> 00:51:51,583
or any of that stuff.
1000
00:51:51,666 --> 00:51:55,250
So apparently, you know,
I needed a communicator.
1001
00:51:58,292 --> 00:51:59,666
I was working
as an independent producer
1002
00:51:59,749 --> 00:52:01,958
on some pub band in London.
1003
00:52:02,041 --> 00:52:04,417
Carl called and he said,
"what are you doing?"
1004
00:52:04,499 --> 00:52:05,916
And I said,
"well, I just finished the mix.
1005
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:06,958
I'm on a plane tomorrow."
1006
00:52:07,041 --> 00:52:08,916
Albhy went
to berklee school of music
1007
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:09,958
in new england,
1008
00:52:10,041 --> 00:52:12,458
and he was
one of my best friends.
1009
00:52:12,541 --> 00:52:14,749
And he says, "I'll be
on the next flight to Florida."
1010
00:52:17,292 --> 00:52:19,958
I got off the plane.
I went straight to the studio.
1011
00:52:20,041 --> 00:52:21,125
I walked in.
1012
00:52:21,208 --> 00:52:23,167
They were working
on "you should be dancing."
1013
00:52:23,250 --> 00:52:24,292
They came in the control room,
1014
00:52:24,375 --> 00:52:25,916
and Barry said,
"what did you think?"
1015
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:27,458
And I said,
"well, I just got in,
1016
00:52:27,541 --> 00:52:29,624
but sounds awfully good."
1017
00:52:29,708 --> 00:52:32,125
We seemed to hit it off,
so I came back the next day.
1018
00:52:32,208 --> 00:52:34,292
Now, what you have
to remember at the time,
1019
00:52:34,375 --> 00:52:35,499
albhy was a hippie.
1020
00:52:35,583 --> 00:52:37,125
I mean, he was just different.
1021
00:52:39,916 --> 00:52:42,125
Albhy used to hang
around the studio,
1022
00:52:42,208 --> 00:52:43,624
and I got on really well
with him.
1023
00:52:43,708 --> 00:52:46,791
I found out he played
on "I shot the sheriff"
1024
00:52:46,875 --> 00:52:47,958
with Eric.
1025
00:52:48,041 --> 00:52:51,499
Albhy had an inroad
into technology,
1026
00:52:51,583 --> 00:52:52,749
and he had a great ear.
1027
00:52:52,833 --> 00:52:55,624
Everybody just seemed to be,
I think, relieved
1028
00:52:55,708 --> 00:52:59,000
to have another ear
in the control room
1029
00:52:59,083 --> 00:53:01,250
to hear what they were doing
as a whole.
1030
00:53:10,250 --> 00:53:12,167
In the beginning, when I came,
1031
00:53:12,250 --> 00:53:14,666
the three brothers
were clearly a unit.
1032
00:53:14,749 --> 00:53:16,499
Each of them knew
the way their brothers sang
1033
00:53:16,583 --> 00:53:18,041
and would be on the same mic
1034
00:53:18,125 --> 00:53:19,833
and they would lean in
or lean out
1035
00:53:19,916 --> 00:53:22,125
or complement
each other's voices.
1036
00:53:22,208 --> 00:53:24,000
They were in perfect synchrony.
1037
00:53:31,958 --> 00:53:34,499
We found another sound.
We found a new sound.
1038
00:53:34,583 --> 00:53:36,666
I came up
with a lot of new ideas
1039
00:53:36,749 --> 00:53:38,333
to suit the falsetto.
1040
00:53:38,417 --> 00:53:40,208
Everybody was saying
the same thing:
1041
00:53:40,292 --> 00:53:42,541
"Do that falsetto again.
Do that falsetto again."
1042
00:53:42,624 --> 00:53:45,041
And so that was fine for me.
I was having a ball.
1043
00:53:50,791 --> 00:53:54,375
A lot of new music has been
coming out of Miami lately,
1044
00:53:54,458 --> 00:53:56,541
enough so
that we've even heard mentioned
1045
00:53:56,624 --> 00:53:59,041
the term "Miami sound."
1046
00:54:06,791 --> 00:54:08,708
This is actually
a really important period
1047
00:54:08,791 --> 00:54:11,833
for musicianship and production
and songwriting
1048
00:54:11,916 --> 00:54:13,791
that targets the dance floor.
1049
00:54:17,333 --> 00:54:18,583
It's a different
emotional energy,
1050
00:54:18,666 --> 00:54:21,083
which is about,
can you make the body move?
1051
00:54:21,167 --> 00:54:22,958
Can you make the body happy?
1052
00:54:29,666 --> 00:54:31,083
And certain songs
sounded like
1053
00:54:31,167 --> 00:54:34,791
the human embodiment
of a brass section.
1054
00:54:34,875 --> 00:54:36,916
The same way
a horn just punches...
1055
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:38,250
Yeah.
1056
00:54:38,333 --> 00:54:39,958
That's what Barry's voice
reminds me of.
1057
00:54:45,708 --> 00:54:49,417
I was always into arrangement
of instruments.
1058
00:54:49,499 --> 00:54:50,708
"You should be dancing,"
1059
00:54:50,791 --> 00:54:54,208
their voices together
sound like trumpets to me.
1060
00:54:58,083 --> 00:54:59,624
I am not high,
for the record.
1061
00:54:59,708 --> 00:55:02,958
I just wanna
1062
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:07,916
it was a discovery.
1063
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:09,916
We've discovered
a new audience.
1064
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:10,916
At the clubs,
1065
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,499
"you should be dancing"
exploded.
1066
00:55:13,583 --> 00:55:15,666
Not just, "well,
I heard that record
1067
00:55:15,749 --> 00:55:16,916
and I really liked it."
1068
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:21,417
It was three times a night
at any club that you went to.
1069
00:55:21,499 --> 00:55:23,292
There was a whole industry
1070
00:55:23,375 --> 00:55:26,208
that was built
around this clubbing thing.
1071
00:55:26,292 --> 00:55:30,458
"Billboard" started a chart
that was dance music chart.
1072
00:55:30,541 --> 00:55:34,499
This billiondollar industry
was being built
1073
00:55:34,583 --> 00:55:36,499
way before the Bee Gees.
1074
00:55:36,583 --> 00:55:38,624
A lot of people don't realize
1075
00:55:38,708 --> 00:55:42,708
disco started in the gay
and the black community.
1076
00:55:42,791 --> 00:55:44,167
People don't understand
1077
00:55:44,250 --> 00:55:46,791
what it was like back then
for gay people.
1078
00:55:46,875 --> 00:55:48,375
There was a law in New York
1079
00:55:48,458 --> 00:55:51,833
that did not allow
people of the same sex
1080
00:55:51,916 --> 00:55:53,333
to dance together
1081
00:55:53,417 --> 00:55:57,000
in a place
that had a liquor license.
1082
00:55:57,083 --> 00:55:59,041
And then the law changed,
1083
00:55:59,125 --> 00:56:01,875
and that allowed me
to open my club.
1084
00:56:03,458 --> 00:56:06,292
A new era
of dance music started
1085
00:56:06,375 --> 00:56:09,041
in the gay underground clubs.
1086
00:56:13,749 --> 00:56:18,333
So the record industry wants
to name it,
1087
00:56:18,458 --> 00:56:20,749
package it, sell it.
1088
00:56:20,833 --> 00:56:23,541
That was the explosion
1089
00:56:23,624 --> 00:56:26,000
of the disco sound.
1090
00:56:32,791 --> 00:56:35,541
We're down
at criteria sound studios,
1091
00:56:35,624 --> 00:56:37,875
and currently, it's the studio
1092
00:56:37,958 --> 00:56:40,292
that's being used
by the Bee Gees.
1093
00:56:40,375 --> 00:56:43,041
What particular thing
about the studio
1094
00:56:43,125 --> 00:56:44,333
makes it so attractive?
1095
00:56:44,417 --> 00:56:46,333
It's cheap.
It's cheap, yeah.
1096
00:56:46,417 --> 00:56:50,208
No.
Cheap it isn't, but
1097
00:56:50,292 --> 00:56:53,000
but the actual atmosphere
of the place is very relaxing.
1098
00:56:53,083 --> 00:56:54,583
We create better here
than we do anywhere else.
1099
00:56:54,666 --> 00:56:55,708
Yeah.
1100
00:56:55,791 --> 00:56:57,208
That's my story,
and I'm sticking to it.
1101
00:57:02,458 --> 00:57:04,916
America was
the ultimate dream.
1102
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,250
As three kids, we said,
1103
00:57:07,333 --> 00:57:09,250
"one day, we're gonna have
houses in america
1104
00:57:09,333 --> 00:57:11,583
all next door to each other
with swimming pools."
1105
00:57:12,875 --> 00:57:14,125
And we thought,
"that'll be great."
1106
00:57:19,499 --> 00:57:21,791
It was a huge uprooting.
1107
00:57:23,541 --> 00:57:25,541
It's a very large family,
1108
00:57:25,624 --> 00:57:28,417
and it just kept getting
bigger and bigger over time.
1109
00:57:30,333 --> 00:57:33,583
Mum and dad came to Miami
as quickly as we did.
1110
00:57:33,666 --> 00:57:35,749
I think they were probably
the happiest they'd ever been
1111
00:57:35,833 --> 00:57:36,958
in their lives.
1112
00:57:37,041 --> 00:57:40,375
And of course,
Andy came here with them.
1113
00:57:42,541 --> 00:57:45,833
Andy was a gift
out of left field.
1114
00:57:45,916 --> 00:57:50,000
But I never knew he existed
until one day, he shows up
1115
00:57:50,083 --> 00:57:52,958
fresh from Australia.
1116
00:57:53,041 --> 00:57:55,083
Andy was a great kid.
1117
00:57:55,167 --> 00:57:57,458
He could do anything
he set his mind to.
1118
00:57:57,541 --> 00:58:00,125
Barry was Andy's idol.
1119
00:58:00,208 --> 00:58:02,250
They were almost like twins.
1120
00:58:02,333 --> 00:58:03,583
We were very much alike.
1121
00:58:03,666 --> 00:58:05,833
We looked alike.
We had the same birthmarks.
1122
00:58:05,916 --> 00:58:07,624
I would say that we were
as much like twins
1123
00:58:07,708 --> 00:58:09,624
as Maurice and Robin.
1124
00:58:09,708 --> 00:58:11,583
"Main course"
and "children of the world,"
1125
00:58:11,666 --> 00:58:12,624
which followed that,
1126
00:58:12,708 --> 00:58:13,749
they were, like,
triple platinum.
1127
00:58:13,833 --> 00:58:16,624
I think he really wanted
to be a part of that.
1128
00:58:16,708 --> 00:58:18,458
They suggested
that I go to Australia,
1129
00:58:18,541 --> 00:58:20,125
as my brothers first did
in 1958
1130
00:58:20,208 --> 00:58:21,791
when I was only
five months old,
1131
00:58:21,875 --> 00:58:25,000
and start working there
and get some records released.
1132
00:58:25,083 --> 00:58:27,167
Andy was very young then.
1133
00:58:27,250 --> 00:58:29,125
He had his little band.
1134
00:58:29,208 --> 00:58:30,708
It was a process
of building him up,
1135
00:58:30,791 --> 00:58:34,083
getting him to play live,
getting him to be an artist.
1136
00:58:34,167 --> 00:58:35,499
I was there for two years.
1137
00:58:35,583 --> 00:58:36,833
Out of the blue,
a phone call came
1138
00:58:36,916 --> 00:58:37,791
from my brother Barry
1139
00:58:37,875 --> 00:58:39,541
and said,
"I wanna produce you,"
1140
00:58:39,624 --> 00:58:41,375
and I think it was, like,
two weeks or something,
1141
00:58:41,458 --> 00:58:44,499
I was in the studio
to do a new album in Miami.
1142
00:58:44,583 --> 00:58:46,167
I didn't think I was ready.
1143
00:58:46,250 --> 00:58:47,208
The first few times
1144
00:58:47,292 --> 00:58:49,375
on a real professional
studio microphone,
1145
00:58:49,458 --> 00:58:51,499
Andy was, like, petrified,
1146
00:58:51,583 --> 00:58:54,041
but, you know, Barry was there
1147
00:58:54,125 --> 00:58:56,875
and guided him through
and helped him with lyrics.
1148
00:58:56,958 --> 00:58:59,666
He was very receptive
to new ideas.
1149
00:59:02,875 --> 00:59:05,083
And it didn't take him long,
you know,
1150
00:59:05,167 --> 00:59:08,208
to find, like, you know,
another groove.
1151
00:59:21,292 --> 00:59:23,708
The Bee Gees' point of view
was about having hit records
1152
00:59:23,791 --> 00:59:24,708
and being on the radio,
1153
00:59:24,791 --> 00:59:27,208
and so the greatest gift
that you could give
1154
00:59:27,292 --> 00:59:28,583
to your younger brother
1155
00:59:28,666 --> 00:59:30,417
would be to give him
that success,
1156
00:59:30,499 --> 00:59:33,333
to write songs with him,
to teach him to be a star.
1157
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:41,541
And then suddenly,
out of nowhere,
1158
00:59:41,624 --> 00:59:43,916
Andy had about three
number ones in a row.
1159
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:45,875
He was a teen idol.
1160
00:59:45,958 --> 00:59:47,958
There was talk about him
becoming a bee gee.
1161
00:59:48,041 --> 00:59:50,208
I think Robert saw
he had a younger audience.
1162
00:59:50,292 --> 00:59:52,208
Smart to keep him on his own.
1163
01:00:00,791 --> 01:00:02,749
All of a sudden,
he was the big thing.
1164
01:00:02,833 --> 01:00:05,041
There was a period
when we lived in the shadow
1165
01:00:05,125 --> 01:00:07,749
of Andy's band.
1166
01:00:16,833 --> 01:00:18,541
After
"children of the world" album,
1167
01:00:18,624 --> 01:00:19,749
the next project,
1168
01:00:19,833 --> 01:00:22,000
we were booked
to record in France
1169
01:00:22,083 --> 01:00:24,916
'cause of the Elton John album
"honky ch�teau."
1170
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:26,125
It sounded great.
1171
01:00:30,833 --> 01:00:33,000
Robert sent US there
1172
01:00:33,083 --> 01:00:34,666
I think it was
some kind of tax thing.
1173
01:00:34,749 --> 01:00:37,458
We thought, "well, if this
studio sounds that good,
1174
01:00:37,541 --> 01:00:39,292
"hell yeah, let's go off
to France.
1175
01:00:39,375 --> 01:00:40,333
Why not?
1176
01:00:44,916 --> 01:00:48,583
It wasn't the honky ch�teau
that Elton John had used.
1177
01:00:51,749 --> 01:00:53,624
Now, ch�teau sounds
absolutely gorgeous,
1178
01:00:53,708 --> 01:00:54,791
doesn't it?
1179
01:00:54,875 --> 01:00:56,958
Beautiful building,
great grounds and gardens
1180
01:00:57,041 --> 01:00:58,458
and ponds and fountains.
1181
01:00:58,541 --> 01:00:59,458
No.
1182
01:00:59,541 --> 01:01:01,458
It's nothing like that.
1183
01:01:01,541 --> 01:01:05,333
It was a halfbuilt castle,
no central heating, nothing,
1184
01:01:05,417 --> 01:01:06,458
and it was a dump.
1185
01:01:06,541 --> 01:01:08,958
We seemed to be
in the middle of nowhere.
1186
01:01:09,041 --> 01:01:11,083
Not a happy place to be.
1187
01:01:11,167 --> 01:01:12,833
It was really
kind of decrepit.
1188
01:01:12,916 --> 01:01:15,292
I think it'd been used
to make porn movies.
1189
01:01:15,375 --> 01:01:17,167
This was not right.
1190
01:01:17,250 --> 01:01:19,167
But because there was
a contract,
1191
01:01:19,250 --> 01:01:22,417
we just decided to, you know,
plow on through.
1192
01:01:22,499 --> 01:01:24,125
We were going there
to mix a live album
1193
01:01:24,208 --> 01:01:26,375
called "here at last...Live."
1194
01:01:26,458 --> 01:01:28,333
But also,
we were getting songs ready
1195
01:01:28,417 --> 01:01:29,583
for our new studio album,
1196
01:01:29,666 --> 01:01:32,000
which would be the followup
to "children of the world."
1197
01:01:32,083 --> 01:01:35,333
And we got a call
from Robert stigwood.
1198
01:01:41,624 --> 01:01:43,000
A friend of mine, Nik cohn,
1199
01:01:43,083 --> 01:01:45,041
wrote this piece
for "New York" magazine,
1200
01:01:45,125 --> 01:01:46,833
"tribal rites
of the new Saturday night."
1201
01:01:46,916 --> 01:01:50,375
Disco was really underway,
in Manhattan, anyway,
1202
01:01:50,458 --> 01:01:52,041
but Nik cohn's point was that
1203
01:01:52,125 --> 01:01:54,000
rather than just being
underground gay clubs,
1204
01:01:54,083 --> 01:01:56,375
straight couples are now going
to do the hustle
1205
01:01:56,458 --> 01:01:58,541
on a Saturday night
in the suburbs.
1206
01:01:58,624 --> 01:01:59,875
So I got Robert to buy
the film rights
1207
01:01:59,958 --> 01:02:02,708
to a magazine article,
of which there was no story.
1208
01:02:02,791 --> 01:02:04,417
But it caught
Robert's attention
1209
01:02:04,499 --> 01:02:06,292
because he saw
1210
01:02:06,375 --> 01:02:08,083
that that's a lead role
for an actor
1211
01:02:08,167 --> 01:02:09,708
if it was a movie.
1212
01:02:09,791 --> 01:02:10,749
He announced
1213
01:02:10,833 --> 01:02:12,208
at the Beverly Hills hotel
at breakfast,
1214
01:02:12,292 --> 01:02:14,499
"I'm signing John Travolta
to a threepicture deal,"
1215
01:02:14,583 --> 01:02:15,833
and people thought he was mad.
1216
01:02:15,916 --> 01:02:17,499
He was a TV actor.
1217
01:02:17,583 --> 01:02:19,833
No one gets a million dollars
for three pictures.
1218
01:02:19,916 --> 01:02:21,708
Turned out to be the bargain
of the century, of course,
1219
01:02:21,791 --> 01:02:23,417
because he got him
for "grease"
1220
01:02:23,499 --> 01:02:25,041
and the movie
we don't talk about,
1221
01:02:25,125 --> 01:02:26,708
"moment by moment,"
1222
01:02:26,791 --> 01:02:28,208
but two out of three's not bad.
1223
01:02:30,458 --> 01:02:31,875
I was still running
rso records,
1224
01:02:31,958 --> 01:02:34,499
so my job was
to do the soundtrack,
1225
01:02:34,583 --> 01:02:35,875
and my brief was,
1226
01:02:35,958 --> 01:02:37,916
"put all of your favorite
disco tracks
1227
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:39,125
"and everyone will play it
at a party
1228
01:02:39,208 --> 01:02:40,417
and they'll
never stop dancing."
1229
01:02:45,666 --> 01:02:47,417
These were comparatively easy,
1230
01:02:47,499 --> 01:02:50,916
but we needed the Bee Gees
to write a few songs.
1231
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:52,541
Phone call came through
from Robert,
1232
01:02:52,624 --> 01:02:54,417
saying, "I wanna make
this film."
1233
01:02:54,499 --> 01:02:56,749
He said, "but I'm gonna need
two or three songs."
1234
01:02:56,833 --> 01:02:59,083
It wasn't the idea that they
would do the soundtrack.
1235
01:02:59,167 --> 01:03:00,292
We knew they were busy.
1236
01:03:00,375 --> 01:03:02,208
"But have you got some songs?"
Robert said,
1237
01:03:02,292 --> 01:03:05,250
and they said, "yeah, sure."
1238
01:03:05,333 --> 01:03:07,749
Robert said,
"I'm sending you a script."
1239
01:03:07,833 --> 01:03:10,417
But we decided
not to read the script.
1240
01:03:10,499 --> 01:03:12,624
We weren't writing
the "fever" music.
1241
01:03:12,708 --> 01:03:16,417
We were writing our new album
and just having fun doing it.
1242
01:03:16,499 --> 01:03:17,666
They already had
a couple of tunes
1243
01:03:17,749 --> 01:03:19,167
or some titles, anyway.
1244
01:03:19,250 --> 01:03:20,624
We thought,
"let's leave it with them."
1245
01:03:20,708 --> 01:03:25,458
What we ended up doing
was the demos of these songs.
1246
01:03:25,541 --> 01:03:26,499
And I was really surprised
1247
01:03:26,583 --> 01:03:27,958
that, you know, it was
only a few weeks later
1248
01:03:28,041 --> 01:03:30,083
we got the songs.
1249
01:03:30,167 --> 01:03:34,749
We got a cassette,
and to this day, it's amazing.
1250
01:03:47,875 --> 01:03:48,958
It was just one
after the other.
1251
01:03:49,041 --> 01:03:51,333
You know, "stayin' alive,"
"more than a woman,"
1252
01:03:51,417 --> 01:03:53,833
"how deep is your love,"
"if I can't have you,"
1253
01:03:53,916 --> 01:03:54,958
"night fever"
1254
01:03:55,041 --> 01:03:56,292
on one cassette.
1255
01:03:56,375 --> 01:03:58,333
And I thought, "yes.
1256
01:03:58,417 --> 01:03:59,875
We've got a soundtrack."
1257
01:03:59,958 --> 01:04:01,791
You know,
you listen to that tape,
1258
01:04:01,875 --> 01:04:03,499
whoever was playing
on those records,
1259
01:04:03,583 --> 01:04:04,541
they would've been hits.
1260
01:04:04,624 --> 01:04:05,791
Those songs are so good.
1261
01:04:05,875 --> 01:04:07,958
You think, "shit," you know?
1262
01:04:08,041 --> 01:04:10,167
"That's so cool."
1263
01:04:10,250 --> 01:04:11,458
We had the demos,
1264
01:04:11,541 --> 01:04:12,708
and then we went
into the process
1265
01:04:12,791 --> 01:04:14,624
of making real records.
1266
01:04:14,708 --> 01:04:17,624
Barry and Carl and I lived
in that control room,
1267
01:04:17,708 --> 01:04:19,167
I don't know, 16 hours a day.
1268
01:04:19,250 --> 01:04:21,541
Yeah.
That was the only thing to do.
1269
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:25,833
We recorded
"night fever" first.
1270
01:04:25,916 --> 01:04:27,458
We actually had that
in the can.
1271
01:04:29,583 --> 01:04:32,499
Robert called and said,
"I need a title for the film."
1272
01:04:32,583 --> 01:04:35,292
"What I've got at the moment,"
I said, "is two titles:
1273
01:04:35,375 --> 01:04:37,499
'Stayin' alive'
and 'night fever.'"
1274
01:04:37,583 --> 01:04:40,499
and he said, "'night fever.'
1275
01:04:40,583 --> 01:04:42,208
" he said, "sounds okay,"
he said,
1276
01:04:42,292 --> 01:04:45,083
"but it sounds
a bit too pornographic.
1277
01:04:45,167 --> 01:04:47,749
It'd need to be called
'Saturday night,'" he said.
1278
01:04:47,833 --> 01:04:49,916
So it turned
into "Saturday night fever."
1279
01:04:55,125 --> 01:04:57,875
We were editing "fever"
on the lot at Paramount.
1280
01:04:57,958 --> 01:05:00,333
I was deluged
by Paramount people saying,
1281
01:05:00,417 --> 01:05:02,375
"how's your little disco movie
coming along?"
1282
01:05:02,458 --> 01:05:03,916
So that was a bit patronizing.
1283
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:05,375
But the inspiring thing was
1284
01:05:05,458 --> 01:05:07,333
that stigwood,
during postproduction, said,
1285
01:05:07,417 --> 01:05:08,749
"why do we wait
for the release of the film?
1286
01:05:08,833 --> 01:05:09,958
Let's put out a single now."
1287
01:05:10,041 --> 01:05:12,250
And then he started
with the heads of Paramount,
1288
01:05:12,333 --> 01:05:13,375
like, "how many theaters?"
1289
01:05:13,458 --> 01:05:15,167
And they told him
something like 200.
1290
01:05:15,250 --> 01:05:17,708
He said, "I'm releasing
the record in every city.
1291
01:05:17,791 --> 01:05:19,875
Why can't it be
in every single city?"
1292
01:05:19,958 --> 01:05:21,208
So they made a deal
1293
01:05:21,292 --> 01:05:23,250
whereby if the record got
to the top 20,
1294
01:05:23,333 --> 01:05:25,083
they would increase
the number of screens.
1295
01:05:25,167 --> 01:05:27,208
If it got top ten,
they'd go more.
1296
01:05:27,292 --> 01:05:28,749
He said,
"I need the first record
1297
01:05:28,833 --> 01:05:29,791
to be number one."
1298
01:05:34,458 --> 01:05:37,583
Stigwood phoned up
and said to Barry,
1299
01:05:37,666 --> 01:05:39,083
"I need the best love song
1300
01:05:39,167 --> 01:05:42,083
you've ever written
for the movie."
1301
01:05:42,167 --> 01:05:44,916
So we went into a room
in the ch�teau.
1302
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:46,916
Chopin had stayed there.
1303
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:48,541
So every time I looked
at this piano,
1304
01:05:48,624 --> 01:05:51,208
I envisaged chopin
sitting down and playing.
1305
01:05:52,833 --> 01:05:53,875
I sat down at the piano
1306
01:05:53,958 --> 01:05:56,417
and thought
of his prelude in e flat,
1307
01:05:56,499 --> 01:05:59,875
and I knew Barry could sing
in e flat.
1308
01:05:59,958 --> 01:06:01,250
When we were working
like that,
1309
01:06:01,333 --> 01:06:03,083
I had a cassette player.
1310
01:06:19,541 --> 01:06:21,958
And I'm sure it happened
at that point.
1311
01:06:22,041 --> 01:06:24,208
Through
the stained glass window
1312
01:06:24,292 --> 01:06:27,000
came a beam of sunlight,
you know?
1313
01:06:40,749 --> 01:06:44,000
And that's a memory
that'll last me all my life.
1314
01:06:44,083 --> 01:06:46,208
Never forget it.
1315
01:06:46,292 --> 01:06:47,333
Never forget it.
1316
01:06:50,708 --> 01:06:51,666
You know, all the feelings,
1317
01:06:51,749 --> 01:06:53,208
all the emotions
are still there.
1318
01:06:53,292 --> 01:06:55,875
When you talk about it,
it all comes back, you know?
1319
01:06:58,167 --> 01:07:04,666
I have a my heart is in that song.
1321
01:08:03,125 --> 01:08:05,541
Everything came together.
1322
01:08:05,624 --> 01:08:08,417
But sadly,
Dennis had had some bad news.
1323
01:08:08,499 --> 01:08:11,624
My mother was in hospital.
She had Alzheimer's.
1324
01:08:11,708 --> 01:08:14,875
So, you know, I told Barry
what was going on.
1325
01:08:14,958 --> 01:08:18,292
He said, you know, "get dick
to book you a flight now."
1326
01:08:18,375 --> 01:08:22,375
He had to fly back to the UK,
and we had no drummer.
1327
01:08:22,458 --> 01:08:24,417
We thought, "well, we gotta
carry on writing
1328
01:08:24,499 --> 01:08:26,916
and getting
these tracks together."
1329
01:08:29,333 --> 01:08:30,875
Okay, I know now.
1330
01:08:35,083 --> 01:08:37,375
When I was at berklee,
I had studied things
1331
01:08:37,458 --> 01:08:39,041
where they were
moving tapes around
1332
01:08:39,125 --> 01:08:41,541
and make sort of these
interesting Sonic loops.
1333
01:08:41,624 --> 01:08:43,749
And when Dennis was not there,
1334
01:08:43,833 --> 01:08:46,125
I said,
"well, why don't we just
1335
01:08:46,208 --> 01:08:47,458
"take a bar
out of 'night fever'?
1336
01:08:47,541 --> 01:08:48,833
"I think
it's a little slower tempo.
1337
01:08:48,916 --> 01:08:50,333
"We'll slow it down
a little bit
1338
01:08:50,417 --> 01:08:51,791
and see if we can make a loop
out of it."
1339
01:08:57,749 --> 01:09:00,833
We found a bar that we thought
had a really nice feel to it.
1340
01:09:00,916 --> 01:09:02,458
We copied it over to a...
1341
01:09:02,541 --> 01:09:05,333
1/2 inch fourtrack.
1/2 inch fourtrack.
1342
01:09:05,417 --> 01:09:08,749
And spliced the tape
into a loop.
1343
01:09:08,833 --> 01:09:09,791
Tape dump.
1344
01:09:13,541 --> 01:09:15,000
I was pretty good
at imagining
1345
01:09:15,083 --> 01:09:16,624
what you might be able to do,
1346
01:09:16,708 --> 01:09:18,749
but Carl was able
to make it happen.
1347
01:09:18,833 --> 01:09:22,624
It was just necessity
being the mother of invention.
1348
01:09:22,708 --> 01:09:24,958
No one had taken
a drumbeat before
1349
01:09:25,041 --> 01:09:27,541
and created a twobar phrase.
1350
01:09:27,624 --> 01:09:29,791
We were breaking new ground.
1351
01:09:29,875 --> 01:09:30,958
Perfect. Good.
1352
01:09:31,041 --> 01:09:34,541
This is the first time
we had ever taken the song
1353
01:09:34,624 --> 01:09:36,875
and built it piece by piece
from the ground up,
1354
01:09:36,958 --> 01:09:38,458
and we started
with this drum loop.
1355
01:09:40,083 --> 01:09:41,791
And then we did a bass line.
1356
01:09:43,749 --> 01:09:44,833
And then a guitar part.
1357
01:09:49,916 --> 01:09:53,250
Never again would we rely
as much on the liveness.
1358
01:09:53,333 --> 01:09:54,208
We would always know
1359
01:09:54,292 --> 01:09:55,541
that we could
construct the song
1360
01:09:55,624 --> 01:09:56,833
and put the pieces together
1361
01:09:56,916 --> 01:09:59,499
based on the original vision
of the song
1362
01:09:59,583 --> 01:10:01,000
and how we imagined it.
1363
01:10:04,083 --> 01:10:07,624
I got back to the sessions,
and there was just a buzz.
1364
01:10:07,708 --> 01:10:08,624
When we did it, we thought,
1365
01:10:08,708 --> 01:10:10,167
"we're just doing this
temporarily,"
1366
01:10:10,250 --> 01:10:11,499
and when Dennis comes back,
1367
01:10:11,583 --> 01:10:13,167
we'll replace it
with real drums,"
1368
01:10:13,250 --> 01:10:15,875
but what happened is,
the feel was so amazing
1369
01:10:15,958 --> 01:10:17,041
that we couldn't get rid of it.
1370
01:10:17,125 --> 01:10:19,375
He played it for me,
and I could tell
1371
01:10:19,458 --> 01:10:21,000
from the first listen.
1372
01:10:21,083 --> 01:10:24,541
I said, "man, that is amazing."
1373
01:10:24,624 --> 01:10:26,417
When you listen
to the drum track
1374
01:10:26,499 --> 01:10:29,000
on "stayin' alive,"
like, by itself,
1375
01:10:29,083 --> 01:10:31,708
it's really this super rugged,
like, tough thing.
1376
01:10:31,791 --> 01:10:35,875
It's like...
1377
01:10:35,958 --> 01:10:37,499
It's not pretty or pop
like you remember.
1378
01:10:37,583 --> 01:10:38,499
It's pretty tough.
1379
01:10:41,791 --> 01:10:43,499
"Stayin' alive"
was the influence
1380
01:10:43,583 --> 01:10:45,541
that New York gave to US.
1381
01:10:45,624 --> 01:10:47,041
And the energy level
at that point
1382
01:10:47,125 --> 01:10:50,333
in the late '70s
was really that, you know?
1383
01:10:50,417 --> 01:10:51,875
It's survival. It's survival.
1384
01:10:51,958 --> 01:10:52,875
This is '77.
1385
01:10:52,958 --> 01:10:54,749
Everybody know
that time is hard now.
1386
01:10:54,833 --> 01:10:56,250
You know,
if I was out there myself,
1387
01:10:56,333 --> 01:10:57,791
I would've got
what I wanted too.
1388
01:10:57,875 --> 01:10:58,916
You were not
among the looters?
1389
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:00,749
No, I wasn't.
Unfortunate.
1390
01:11:00,833 --> 01:11:01,958
Do you feel
personally threatened
1391
01:11:02,041 --> 01:11:03,250
by the .44 caliber killer?
1392
01:11:03,333 --> 01:11:04,417
Yes, I do.
1393
01:11:04,499 --> 01:11:05,583
I don't feel free to go out,
1394
01:11:05,666 --> 01:11:08,083
to walk the streets
or go out at all.
1395
01:11:08,167 --> 01:11:10,208
Very few people realize
1396
01:11:10,292 --> 01:11:11,583
it's to do with anything
but dance,
1397
01:11:11,666 --> 01:11:14,125
but the lyrics don't talk
about dance at all,
1398
01:11:14,208 --> 01:11:16,583
and the lyrics
very obviously state
1399
01:11:16,666 --> 01:11:18,125
the scenario of survival.
1400
01:11:34,499 --> 01:11:37,624
I mean, that could very easily
have just been a horn line,
1401
01:11:37,708 --> 01:11:39,624
but instead,
their voices are so sick,
1402
01:11:39,708 --> 01:11:42,250
they're like,
"nah, we're gonna sing it."
1403
01:11:46,458 --> 01:11:49,041
The general fever
at the time
1404
01:11:49,125 --> 01:11:51,624
was, "you must see this film."
1405
01:11:51,708 --> 01:11:55,292
The songs precipitated
the interest.
1406
01:11:55,375 --> 01:11:57,958
It was
this cultural phenomenon.
1407
01:12:00,875 --> 01:12:02,125
In the first week
of release,
1408
01:12:02,208 --> 01:12:05,167
they were having to hire
extra staff in some cinemas
1409
01:12:05,250 --> 01:12:06,624
to stop them dancing
in the aisles.
1410
01:12:10,417 --> 01:12:11,749
Other movies
were being put back
1411
01:12:11,833 --> 01:12:14,208
or taken out of other screens
to make room for "fever."
1412
01:12:14,292 --> 01:12:16,666
I mean, it was really
quite a phenomenon.
1413
01:12:16,749 --> 01:12:19,333
John took me aside
at one point and said,
1414
01:12:19,417 --> 01:12:20,458
"hey, what do you think?
1415
01:12:20,541 --> 01:12:23,292
You think maybe
an academy award nomination?"
1416
01:12:23,375 --> 01:12:24,791
And I'm thinking,
"Jesus Christ, no."
1417
01:12:24,875 --> 01:12:26,292
I mean, this is ridiculous.
1418
01:12:26,375 --> 01:12:28,333
It's a dance movie, you know?
1419
01:12:28,417 --> 01:12:29,458
He had the last laugh.
1420
01:12:29,541 --> 01:12:31,833
And John Travolta
in "Saturday night fever."
1421
01:12:34,708 --> 01:12:35,666
The "fever" thing happened.
1422
01:12:35,749 --> 01:12:37,167
That's when
everything exploded.
1423
01:12:37,250 --> 01:12:39,000
Other record companies
were printing it.
1424
01:12:39,083 --> 01:12:40,958
Then our record company
couldn't keep up the pace.
1425
01:12:41,041 --> 01:12:42,000
We didn't know
what was going on
1426
01:12:42,083 --> 01:12:44,958
because this was
just a soundtrack.
1427
01:12:45,041 --> 01:12:46,041
Could I ask, for example,
1428
01:12:46,125 --> 01:12:48,541
what "Saturday night fever"
has grossed thus far?
1429
01:12:48,624 --> 01:12:50,833
Around 110 million.
1430
01:12:50,916 --> 01:12:53,666
At the moment.
In america.
1431
01:12:53,749 --> 01:12:55,499
In america?
In america, yeah.
1432
01:12:55,583 --> 01:12:56,833
And the album?
1433
01:12:56,916 --> 01:12:58,958
The album, I think,
is nearing
1434
01:12:59,041 --> 01:13:02,292
18 million
double albums worldwide.
1435
01:13:02,375 --> 01:13:04,208
But I mean, that would be
the recordbreaker of all time.
1436
01:13:04,292 --> 01:13:07,375
Yes, it's already
the biggestgrossing album
1437
01:13:07,458 --> 01:13:09,041
in the history of music.
1438
01:13:09,125 --> 01:13:11,541
The statistics
are just incredible.
1439
01:13:11,624 --> 01:13:14,250
Four singles
from "Saturday night fever"
1440
01:13:14,333 --> 01:13:17,208
have hit number one
since the album was released,
1441
01:13:17,292 --> 01:13:20,333
more than from any other
new album in history.
1442
01:13:20,417 --> 01:13:22,208
That's just a few
of the statistics
1443
01:13:22,292 --> 01:13:25,041
that lead to gold records
like this.
1444
01:13:25,125 --> 01:13:27,125
And so it's my privilege
to say,
1445
01:13:27,208 --> 01:13:29,417
ladies and gentlemen,
will you welcome
1446
01:13:29,499 --> 01:13:31,041
the Bee Gees!
1447
01:13:33,833 --> 01:13:37,250
Has it changed your lives,
the enormous success of it?
1448
01:13:38,916 --> 01:13:41,791
Yes, I can safely say
it's changed our lives.
1449
01:13:44,333 --> 01:13:46,791
The Bee Gees, I think,
were stunned by their success.
1450
01:13:49,333 --> 01:13:51,875
We were aware we were
creating a specific sound,
1451
01:13:51,958 --> 01:13:53,375
but we didn't know
what it was gonna do.
1452
01:13:55,208 --> 01:13:57,250
It did end up with them
having half the top ten
1453
01:13:57,333 --> 01:13:59,125
with these songs.
1454
01:13:59,208 --> 01:14:00,333
It was extraordinary.
1455
01:14:00,417 --> 01:14:01,749
Kind of the same domination
the Beatles had
1456
01:14:01,833 --> 01:14:03,292
in the '60s in america.
1457
01:14:05,875 --> 01:14:08,292
They were just everywhere.
1458
01:14:08,375 --> 01:14:10,250
But our own friends
don't treat US the same way.
1459
01:14:10,333 --> 01:14:11,749
What, from a distance,
they treat you?
1460
01:14:11,833 --> 01:14:14,083
Well, I was speaking to one
of my friends the other day,
1461
01:14:14,167 --> 01:14:15,916
and as he was cleaning
my shoes, I said, "listen."
1462
01:14:17,375 --> 01:14:18,916
Stigwood said,
1463
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:20,583
"let's give the band
half a point or a quarter."
1464
01:14:20,666 --> 01:14:23,791
Now, that's not a percentage.
That's a tiny amount of money.
1465
01:14:23,875 --> 01:14:25,125
But when you sell
as many copies
1466
01:14:25,208 --> 01:14:27,708
as "Saturday night fever" sold,
1467
01:14:27,791 --> 01:14:29,833
it turns out to be big money.
1468
01:14:31,916 --> 01:14:32,916
What are you doing
1469
01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:34,541
with these millions
of dollars?
1470
01:14:34,624 --> 01:14:36,292
What are you doing
with your millions of dollars?
1471
01:14:36,375 --> 01:14:38,666
No.
1472
01:14:38,749 --> 01:14:40,458
It is the biggest night
of the year
1473
01:14:40,541 --> 01:14:41,833
for people
in the recording industry,
1474
01:14:41,916 --> 01:14:42,916
the grammy awards.
1475
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:45,458
And the winner is
"Saturday night fever."
1476
01:14:45,541 --> 01:14:48,250
Whoo!
1477
01:14:48,333 --> 01:14:51,292
For a soundtrack to win
best album was amazing.
1478
01:14:51,375 --> 01:14:52,791
It went on to be
one of the bestselling albums
1479
01:14:52,875 --> 01:14:54,167
in history.
1480
01:14:56,875 --> 01:14:59,125
We didn't know we were
defining the culture.
1481
01:14:59,208 --> 01:15:01,250
We were just still
Barry, Maurice, and Robin
1482
01:15:01,333 --> 01:15:02,749
wondering what the hell's
going on.
1483
01:15:11,083 --> 01:15:13,208
The fever
has been contagious.
1484
01:15:13,292 --> 01:15:16,000
Discos, the places in which
to dance away the night
1485
01:15:16,083 --> 01:15:18,167
and the morning hours,
are thriving.
1486
01:15:18,250 --> 01:15:19,791
What the fever has done
is made
1487
01:15:19,875 --> 01:15:22,916
just about anything
related to disco profitable.
1488
01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:24,499
Where there's money
to be made,
1489
01:15:24,583 --> 01:15:26,292
disco is the business.
1490
01:15:26,375 --> 01:15:29,499
We didn't categorize
our songs as disco,
1491
01:15:29,583 --> 01:15:31,916
but then we weren't thinking
that way at all.
1492
01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:33,333
We were just thinking
about writing songs
1493
01:15:33,417 --> 01:15:35,624
based on this discovery
of this falsetto voice
1494
01:15:35,708 --> 01:15:37,833
and how well
that seemed to work.
1495
01:15:37,916 --> 01:15:39,041
What the Bee Gees brought,
1496
01:15:39,125 --> 01:15:41,833
I always felt
they brought melody to disco.
1497
01:15:41,916 --> 01:15:45,167
Most disco at that point
was melodyfree, you know?
1498
01:15:45,250 --> 01:15:47,583
This was a different take
on disco.
1499
01:15:47,666 --> 01:15:49,458
It was completely for
1500
01:15:49,541 --> 01:15:51,541
for the broadest
possible audience.
1501
01:15:51,624 --> 01:15:52,749
You got the lyrics?
Yes.
1502
01:15:52,833 --> 01:15:53,791
Great.
Right here.
1503
01:15:53,875 --> 01:15:55,250
Okay. Let's go.
Straight into it.
1504
01:15:56,833 --> 01:15:58,708
One, two, three, four.
1505
01:16:02,292 --> 01:16:03,833
Right.
Okay.
1506
01:16:12,958 --> 01:16:15,375
Hey, guys.
It's too slow.
1507
01:16:15,458 --> 01:16:16,583
It would be nice
if we could find a bigger sound
1508
01:16:16,666 --> 01:16:17,666
for that solo.
1509
01:16:17,749 --> 01:16:18,666
Great.
1510
01:16:18,749 --> 01:16:19,666
The way we rehearsed it
last night.
1511
01:16:19,749 --> 01:16:21,916
All right.
1512
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:23,041
Yeah.
Just like that.
1513
01:16:23,125 --> 01:16:24,041
Yeah. Beautiful.
1514
01:16:24,125 --> 01:16:25,375
Bring that sound in.
That's great.
1515
01:16:25,458 --> 01:16:26,791
Yeah.
1516
01:16:26,875 --> 01:16:28,375
Okay, let's try it again.
Okay.
1517
01:16:28,458 --> 01:16:30,583
One, two, three, four.
1518
01:16:47,292 --> 01:16:49,041
When we brought out
"spirits having flown,"
1519
01:16:49,125 --> 01:16:51,083
it did phenomenally well.
1520
01:16:51,167 --> 01:16:54,250
At the same time, "fever" was
still in the top ten.
1521
01:16:54,333 --> 01:16:56,749
You know, we could've left it
another year,
1522
01:16:56,833 --> 01:16:59,333
and it still probably would've
been a little too soon
1523
01:16:59,417 --> 01:17:01,458
with what was going on
with "fever."
1524
01:17:10,666 --> 01:17:11,833
Good morning, everybody.
1525
01:17:11,916 --> 01:17:13,791
Charley steiner, 99x.
1526
01:17:13,875 --> 01:17:15,624
As is per usual for Monday,
1527
01:17:15,708 --> 01:17:19,125
a very busy day
coming into town.
1528
01:17:19,208 --> 01:17:21,833
I'm working
at a top 40 station
1529
01:17:21,916 --> 01:17:23,791
in New York, big one,
1530
01:17:23,875 --> 01:17:26,583
wxlo, but it was known as 99x.
1531
01:17:26,666 --> 01:17:29,541
And I was
the morning news guy.
1532
01:17:29,624 --> 01:17:33,499
Most radio stations
had a very small playlist,
1533
01:17:33,583 --> 01:17:37,791
and the Bee Gees probably had
the top four, top five hits
1534
01:17:37,875 --> 01:17:38,875
any given week.
1535
01:17:38,958 --> 01:17:40,958
13 cfrw.
1536
01:17:41,041 --> 01:17:42,250
Music of the Bee Gees
and "tragedy."
1537
01:17:42,333 --> 01:17:43,292
Get out on the dance floor
1538
01:17:43,375 --> 01:17:45,125
and do one more
with the Bee Gees.
1539
01:17:45,208 --> 01:17:46,791
All the gibb brothers
together, the Bee Gees,
1540
01:17:46,875 --> 01:17:47,958
"you should be dancing."
1541
01:17:48,041 --> 01:17:49,499
You should be shaking
that thing one time.
1542
01:17:49,583 --> 01:17:52,333
And for those of US
at the radio station,
1543
01:17:52,417 --> 01:17:55,125
we're we're gonna take hostages.
1545
01:17:56,958 --> 01:17:59,167
And if you haven't had
enough Bee Gees music yet,
1546
01:17:59,250 --> 01:18:01,333
well, we've got more.
1547
01:18:01,417 --> 01:18:04,167
Guess you could kind of
call it overgiving.
1548
01:18:04,250 --> 01:18:05,666
And then Andy gibb too.
1549
01:18:05,749 --> 01:18:09,125
He was like the caboose
on this musical train.
1550
01:18:09,208 --> 01:18:12,958
It was like waves in the sea.
1551
01:18:17,292 --> 01:18:19,375
You're right on the top
of the world.
1552
01:18:19,458 --> 01:18:22,666
What is it that drives you
back on the road?
1553
01:18:22,749 --> 01:18:25,375
When we make records
and when we're in the studio,
1554
01:18:25,458 --> 01:18:28,333
we never really see
who buys those records.
1555
01:18:28,417 --> 01:18:30,292
I think getting on the road
means that to US.
1556
01:18:30,375 --> 01:18:33,208
It means that we come
facetoface with people
1557
01:18:33,292 --> 01:18:34,833
to whom our records mean a lot.
1558
01:18:34,916 --> 01:18:38,208
But to be sure, doing a tour
is an enormous amount of work.
1559
01:18:38,292 --> 01:18:40,541
The only thing that I noticed
that's not right is,
1560
01:18:40,624 --> 01:18:41,875
it doesn't actually say
the Bee Gees,
1561
01:18:41,958 --> 01:18:43,041
and I think
it should actually
1562
01:18:43,125 --> 01:18:44,125
the Bee Gees' name should be
1563
01:18:44,208 --> 01:18:46,583
it should be "Bee Gees,
spirits having flown."
1564
01:18:49,292 --> 01:18:52,000
The '79 tour
was a complete sellout.
1565
01:18:52,083 --> 01:18:55,000
The Bee Gees hadn't toured
since 1976,
1566
01:18:55,083 --> 01:18:56,624
and that tour was a promotion
1567
01:18:56,708 --> 01:18:58,083
for the "spirits having flown"
album,
1568
01:18:58,167 --> 01:18:59,417
but it was celebrating
1569
01:18:59,499 --> 01:19:01,541
"Saturday night fever"
as well, you know.
1570
01:19:01,624 --> 01:19:03,541
25,000 people
are supposed to be here.
1571
01:19:03,624 --> 01:19:04,791
It's gonna be great.
1572
01:19:04,875 --> 01:19:06,375
You don't mind the Bee Gees
in the rain?
1573
01:19:06,458 --> 01:19:07,916
No.
No, not at all.
1574
01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:09,916
We've been here
since 9:00 this morning.
1575
01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:12,041
They're worth waiting
in the rain for.
1576
01:19:12,125 --> 01:19:14,583
I mean, it was huge.
1577
01:19:14,666 --> 01:19:16,749
Dodger stadium,
places like that.
1578
01:19:16,833 --> 01:19:18,875
We used to dream of this.
1579
01:19:18,958 --> 01:19:20,958
Having people in the audience
like Barbra Streisand
1580
01:19:21,041 --> 01:19:22,749
watching your show
and loving it, you know,
1581
01:19:22,833 --> 01:19:25,292
I mean, these are fantasies.
1582
01:19:25,375 --> 01:19:27,083
You're in a sort
of goldfish bowl on tour.
1583
01:19:27,167 --> 01:19:28,417
You know, it's like,
you don't see much
1584
01:19:28,499 --> 01:19:29,417
of what's going on out there.
1585
01:19:29,499 --> 01:19:31,083
Anyway, the most
important thing is
1586
01:19:31,167 --> 01:19:32,292
what we're gonna do
after the show.
1587
01:19:32,375 --> 01:19:33,708
What do you wanna do?
1588
01:19:33,791 --> 01:19:35,083
That's what we're here
to talk about.
1589
01:19:35,167 --> 01:19:36,583
It's here.
1590
01:19:36,666 --> 01:19:38,417
The disco body shaper,
1591
01:19:38,499 --> 01:19:40,666
the brandnew
exerciser sensation
1592
01:19:40,749 --> 01:19:42,250
that's sweeping the country.
1593
01:19:42,333 --> 01:19:44,083
Send for yours today.
1594
01:19:44,167 --> 01:19:47,499
Buy it today,
be a disco star tonight.
1595
01:19:47,583 --> 01:19:49,583
Let's disco to burger king.
1596
01:19:49,666 --> 01:19:51,749
It all goes back
to one thing
1597
01:19:51,833 --> 01:19:53,417
and the same thing
that's happening now:
1598
01:19:53,499 --> 01:19:54,583
Greed.
1599
01:19:56,375 --> 01:20:00,292
Greed is the thing
that happens in people
1600
01:20:00,375 --> 01:20:03,333
that really ruins
a lot of shit.
1601
01:20:05,041 --> 01:20:06,000
In the beginning,
1602
01:20:06,083 --> 01:20:07,958
you would buy
a discobannered record
1603
01:20:08,041 --> 01:20:09,791
and it would be a great song,
1604
01:20:09,875 --> 01:20:11,666
no matter which one
you picked out.
1605
01:20:14,583 --> 01:20:18,833
But then some executive
in diapers decided,
1606
01:20:18,916 --> 01:20:21,000
"let's put 'disco'
1607
01:20:21,083 --> 01:20:23,749
on all these records
we wanna sell,"
1608
01:20:23,833 --> 01:20:26,125
and it wasn't
good music anymore.
1609
01:20:26,208 --> 01:20:27,958
It was garbage.
1610
01:20:33,208 --> 01:20:35,749
Get down, mama.
1611
01:20:35,833 --> 01:20:37,000
So that was, I think,
the straw
1612
01:20:37,083 --> 01:20:38,208
that broke the camel's back.
1613
01:20:40,791 --> 01:20:42,916
Disco
as a purely musical form
1614
01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:45,000
is, you know, dead.
1615
01:20:45,083 --> 01:20:46,000
I hated it.
1616
01:20:46,083 --> 01:20:47,458
Couldn't think
of anything redeem
1617
01:20:47,541 --> 01:20:48,666
it was old people's music.
1618
01:20:48,749 --> 01:20:51,333
It was a very easy thing
1619
01:20:51,417 --> 01:20:54,833
to get involved with
for commercial reasons.
1620
01:20:58,458 --> 01:20:59,833
I'd like to show you
1621
01:20:59,916 --> 01:21:02,208
how we destroy
the disco records.
1622
01:21:02,292 --> 01:21:04,499
This is how I do it.
1623
01:21:04,583 --> 01:21:06,833
Have to kind of get worked up
a little bit.
1624
01:21:06,916 --> 01:21:08,125
It's like
yeah.
1625
01:21:08,208 --> 01:21:10,000
And then I just
1626
01:21:12,041 --> 01:21:13,333
oof.
That felt good.
1627
01:21:14,541 --> 01:21:16,333
Our next guest tonight
is Steve dahl.
1628
01:21:16,417 --> 01:21:19,208
And he is a disc jockey
for station wlupfm
1629
01:21:19,292 --> 01:21:20,875
out in Chicago, Illinois,
1630
01:21:20,958 --> 01:21:22,541
and he hates disco music.
1631
01:21:22,624 --> 01:21:25,375
Steve dahl was kind of hard
to avoid in Chicago.
1632
01:21:34,125 --> 01:21:36,541
Steve dahl was on the radio
saying, "disco sucks.
1633
01:21:36,624 --> 01:21:38,541
Disco sucks."
1634
01:21:38,624 --> 01:21:40,541
I was 14.
1635
01:21:40,624 --> 01:21:42,541
I listened to the loop,
1636
01:21:42,624 --> 01:21:45,666
the radio station that this
kind of centered around.
1637
01:21:45,749 --> 01:21:47,708
He brings helium
to the studio,
1638
01:21:47,791 --> 01:21:50,417
inhales it and imitates
the Bee Gees on the air,
1639
01:21:50,499 --> 01:21:52,208
and then breaks up
their records.
1640
01:22:01,333 --> 01:22:04,916
You know, when you do
all those things,
1641
01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:06,458
like put out garbage,
1642
01:22:06,541 --> 01:22:10,250
you know, have radio
beingfeeling ostracized
1643
01:22:10,333 --> 01:22:13,250
and a lot of straight people
feeling threatened,
1644
01:22:13,333 --> 01:22:17,250
it creates a real poison.
1645
01:22:19,708 --> 01:22:21,041
Hello again, everybody.
1646
01:22:21,125 --> 01:22:23,916
Harry caray and Jimmy piersall
from comiskey park,
1647
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:27,417
where we're gonna have
a wild night tonight,
1648
01:22:27,499 --> 01:22:29,041
a twilight doubleheader.
1649
01:22:29,125 --> 01:22:31,583
I was an Usher
at comiskey park.
1650
01:22:31,666 --> 01:22:33,125
That was my first job.
1651
01:22:33,208 --> 01:22:36,250
Look at that crowd
out there.
1652
01:22:36,333 --> 01:22:37,375
50,000 people,
1653
01:22:37,458 --> 01:22:38,708
the largest crowd
of the season,
1654
01:22:38,791 --> 01:22:41,250
showed up
at Chicago's comiskey park.
1655
01:22:41,333 --> 01:22:43,125
Many had come
for disco demolition night,
1656
01:22:43,250 --> 01:22:44,916
a promotional gimmick.
1657
01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:47,958
15,000 others had to be
turned away.
1658
01:22:48,041 --> 01:22:49,125
Steve dahl says,
1659
01:22:49,208 --> 01:22:52,333
"we're gonna let everybody in
the white sox park
1660
01:22:52,417 --> 01:22:55,417
"for 98�
1661
01:22:55,499 --> 01:22:57,250
"if you bring a disco record,
1662
01:22:57,333 --> 01:22:58,791
"and we're gonna blow
those records up
1663
01:22:58,875 --> 01:23:00,333
in the middle of center field."
1664
01:23:02,708 --> 01:23:05,125
We're letting people in.
1665
01:23:05,208 --> 01:23:09,250
I pointed out
to my chief Usher,
1666
01:23:09,333 --> 01:23:11,833
"that record, that record,
that record,
1667
01:23:11,916 --> 01:23:14,167
"that record, that record,
that record,
1668
01:23:14,250 --> 01:23:16,250
"those aren't disco records.
1669
01:23:16,333 --> 01:23:18,583
Those are just
those are R&B records."
1670
01:23:20,958 --> 01:23:24,000
And the thing that I noticed
1671
01:23:24,083 --> 01:23:26,333
more than anything
1672
01:23:26,417 --> 01:23:29,167
was just mostly black records.
1673
01:23:30,875 --> 01:23:31,958
At the same time
1674
01:23:32,041 --> 01:23:34,000
all this stuff is going down
in Chicago,
1675
01:23:34,083 --> 01:23:35,833
we were playing the stadiums.
1676
01:23:35,916 --> 01:23:38,375
It was an amazing tour.
1677
01:23:38,458 --> 01:23:41,000
We were sort of, like,
in our own little world,
1678
01:23:41,083 --> 01:23:43,125
not thinking about
the outside world.
1679
01:24:15,791 --> 01:24:18,333
He struck him out,
and the ball game is over.
1680
01:24:22,833 --> 01:24:26,375
Okay, let's Usher Steve
down to the explosives
1681
01:24:26,458 --> 01:24:30,375
with a loud
"disco sucks" chant.
1682
01:24:30,458 --> 01:24:32,375
Disco sucks!
1683
01:24:32,458 --> 01:24:34,583
All: Disco sucks!
1684
01:24:34,666 --> 01:24:36,666
Disco sucks!
1685
01:24:36,749 --> 01:24:38,833
Disco sucks!
1686
01:24:38,916 --> 01:24:40,749
Disco sucks!
1687
01:24:40,833 --> 01:24:42,250
Disco sucks!
1688
01:24:43,958 --> 01:24:45,541
Ladies and gentlemen,
our brother Andy.
1689
01:25:25,583 --> 01:25:26,749
Come on!
1690
01:25:26,833 --> 01:25:28,541
Andy joined US onstage
for "you should be dancing,"
1691
01:25:28,624 --> 01:25:30,958
and it was
the four of US together,
1692
01:25:31,041 --> 01:25:32,583
and Andy joined my mic,
1693
01:25:32,666 --> 01:25:34,458
so we were singing
around the one mic,
1694
01:25:34,541 --> 01:25:36,666
and he kept looking up,
and he stood back and he goes,
1695
01:25:36,749 --> 01:25:39,041
"can you believe this shit?"
1696
01:25:41,333 --> 01:25:43,749
Nobody could believe
what was going on.
1697
01:25:43,833 --> 01:25:45,125
And to see
the four of US onstage,
1698
01:25:45,208 --> 01:25:46,583
when I looked over
and saw Barry and Robin
1699
01:25:46,666 --> 01:25:48,000
and I saw Andy in front of me,
I thought,
1700
01:25:48,083 --> 01:25:50,458
"this is how it's gotta be."
1701
01:25:58,916 --> 01:26:00,624
How 'bout the Bee Gees?
1702
01:26:04,541 --> 01:26:06,292
Well, listen, we took
all the disco records
1703
01:26:06,375 --> 01:26:08,499
that you brought tonight,
1704
01:26:08,583 --> 01:26:11,708
threw 'em in a giant box,
1705
01:26:11,791 --> 01:26:15,333
and we're gonna blow 'em up
real good.
1706
01:26:28,250 --> 01:26:32,499
One, two, three, boom!
1707
01:26:37,708 --> 01:26:40,000
That blew 'em up real good!
1708
01:26:48,375 --> 01:26:51,167
They'd tell you as an Usher,
every now and then,
1709
01:26:51,250 --> 01:26:53,125
you're gonna get
a drunk person
1710
01:26:53,208 --> 01:26:54,833
storming the field.
1711
01:26:54,916 --> 01:26:57,375
Try to grab 'em,
hold on to 'em, or whatever.
1712
01:26:57,458 --> 01:27:00,167
But everybody ran on the field.
1713
01:27:08,916 --> 01:27:11,208
When I got older,
I recognized
1714
01:27:11,292 --> 01:27:15,708
that this was actually the end
of a era.
1715
01:27:18,292 --> 01:27:19,708
It was a book burning.
1716
01:27:19,791 --> 01:27:22,167
It was a racist,
1717
01:27:22,250 --> 01:27:25,041
homophobic book burning.
1718
01:27:25,125 --> 01:27:28,666
And the Bee Gees
got caught up in that
1719
01:27:28,749 --> 01:27:31,083
because they were
part of that culture
1720
01:27:31,167 --> 01:27:33,875
that was lifting
a lot of people up.
1721
01:27:39,666 --> 01:27:40,958
Thank you.
We love you.
1722
01:27:41,041 --> 01:27:43,333
And we'll see you again.
Byebye.
1723
01:27:50,000 --> 01:27:53,791
Nearly 7,000 spectators held
their very own demolition.
1724
01:27:53,875 --> 01:27:56,666
Game two of the doubleheader
was canceled last night.
1725
01:27:56,749 --> 01:28:00,208
That game will be forfeited.
1726
01:28:00,292 --> 01:28:02,499
The antidisco movement
1727
01:28:02,583 --> 01:28:05,083
was almost antibee gees
at that point.
1728
01:28:05,167 --> 01:28:07,916
Ironically, the soundtrack
to "Saturday night fever,"
1729
01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:09,916
the album
that made them superstars,
1730
01:28:10,000 --> 01:28:12,583
also branded them
as a disco group.
1731
01:28:12,666 --> 01:28:14,250
Because you can dance to it,
I mean,
1732
01:28:14,333 --> 01:28:15,916
doesn't necessarily make it
a disco song.
1733
01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:17,583
I mean, you can dance
to lots of songs.
1734
01:28:17,666 --> 01:28:20,000
You really don't wanna be
labeled "disco"...
1735
01:28:20,083 --> 01:28:21,292
No, no.
At all, do you?
1736
01:28:21,375 --> 01:28:23,000
Because our music
is a variety
1737
01:28:23,083 --> 01:28:24,250
of different kinds of music.
1738
01:28:24,333 --> 01:28:25,958
It shouldn't be called
just that.
1739
01:28:26,041 --> 01:28:28,000
So people hated disco.
1740
01:28:28,083 --> 01:28:30,167
Hated it.
1741
01:28:30,250 --> 01:28:31,583
We had FBI
and secret service
1742
01:28:31,666 --> 01:28:33,624
around the airplane every time
we landed in a certain place
1743
01:28:33,708 --> 01:28:35,458
'cause of the bomb threats.
1744
01:28:35,541 --> 01:28:37,958
It was scary stuff.
1745
01:28:38,041 --> 01:28:39,292
We were perplexed,
1746
01:28:39,375 --> 01:28:40,708
'cause I got that vibe
from them.
1747
01:28:40,791 --> 01:28:42,499
You know,
"why are people doing this?"
1748
01:28:42,583 --> 01:28:44,250
The Bee Gees claim
1749
01:28:44,333 --> 01:28:46,458
some radio stations
around the country
1750
01:28:46,541 --> 01:28:49,167
are refusing to play
their new single.
1751
01:28:49,250 --> 01:28:50,458
The Bee Gees are not allowed
to have a hit
1752
01:28:50,541 --> 01:28:51,791
because they had
a lot of success
1753
01:28:51,875 --> 01:28:52,958
with "Saturday night fever."
1754
01:28:53,041 --> 01:28:54,125
That, to me, is crap.
1755
01:28:54,208 --> 01:28:56,791
Radio is, of course,
very difficult to get back
1756
01:28:56,875 --> 01:28:58,250
once you lose them.
1757
01:28:58,333 --> 01:29:00,541
Back then,
if you weren't on the radio,
1758
01:29:00,624 --> 01:29:01,624
there was nothing.
1759
01:29:01,708 --> 01:29:03,541
Let's all grow up.
We're just a pop group.
1760
01:29:03,624 --> 01:29:04,833
We're not a political force.
1761
01:29:04,916 --> 01:29:06,333
We're just making music.
1762
01:29:06,417 --> 01:29:07,916
But I don't think there's
any reason to chalk US off
1763
01:29:08,000 --> 01:29:09,499
because we existed in the '70s
1764
01:29:09,583 --> 01:29:11,499
and we would like to exist
in the '80s, you know.
1765
01:29:11,583 --> 01:29:14,375
Does anybody mind if we exist
in the '80s, thank you?
1766
01:29:14,458 --> 01:29:17,000
It was so overwhelming,
1767
01:29:17,083 --> 01:29:20,041
and the whole dynamic changed.
1768
01:29:20,125 --> 01:29:22,791
There were just crazy days.
1769
01:29:22,875 --> 01:29:25,041
I preferred Maurice
as Maurice not being a bee gee,
1770
01:29:25,125 --> 01:29:26,499
if that makes sense to you.
1771
01:29:26,583 --> 01:29:30,041
I preferred him as Maurice,
not being a bee gee.
1772
01:29:30,125 --> 01:29:31,708
Suddenly, they realized
1773
01:29:31,791 --> 01:29:34,000
that they were in
a different position.
1774
01:29:34,083 --> 01:29:37,083
Robin went through a kind of
1775
01:29:37,167 --> 01:29:39,833
it wasn't a breakdown,
but it was just something
1776
01:29:39,916 --> 01:29:43,208
where he felt very shy
of being in public
1777
01:29:43,292 --> 01:29:45,417
and doing things for a while.
1778
01:29:45,499 --> 01:29:48,041
The backlash was
a very frightening experience.
1779
01:29:48,125 --> 01:29:49,833
When things get to that point,
1780
01:29:49,916 --> 01:29:53,208
you're out of control
of the whole thing.
1781
01:29:53,292 --> 01:29:55,167
We thought the Bee Gees
better go on the back burner
1782
01:29:55,250 --> 01:29:57,375
for a while
until this dies down
1783
01:29:57,458 --> 01:29:59,041
or something, you know.
1784
01:29:59,125 --> 01:30:01,417
We couldn't do anything
as the Bee Gees at all.
1785
01:30:03,292 --> 01:30:05,458
Well, backlash,
I'm really good on.
1786
01:30:09,666 --> 01:30:13,541
Any band that is successful
1787
01:30:13,624 --> 01:30:16,499
is going to have
1788
01:30:16,583 --> 01:30:20,208
some form of resist
that's just the law of nature.
1789
01:30:21,292 --> 01:30:23,417
When they get so successful,
1790
01:30:23,499 --> 01:30:24,916
sometimes the only
interesting thing
1791
01:30:25,000 --> 01:30:27,292
to say about them is,
"I don't like them.
1792
01:30:27,375 --> 01:30:29,458
"Everyone else likes, you know,
'how deep is your love.'
1793
01:30:29,541 --> 01:30:32,333
I don't
you know, it's stupid."
1794
01:30:32,417 --> 01:30:34,250
For bands of my generation,
1795
01:30:34,333 --> 01:30:36,250
you understand
about the ups and downs.
1796
01:30:36,333 --> 01:30:38,583
You can see it.
Like, where are the pitfalls?
1797
01:30:38,666 --> 01:30:40,916
What is the shit
you're gonna take?
1798
01:30:41,000 --> 01:30:43,083
When might this happen?
When might that happen?
1799
01:30:43,167 --> 01:30:44,958
For those people
that were on the first wave
1800
01:30:45,041 --> 01:30:48,208
of sort of global
pop superstardom,
1801
01:30:48,292 --> 01:30:49,958
if you wanna call it that,
1802
01:30:50,041 --> 01:30:51,083
it was new to them.
1803
01:30:51,167 --> 01:30:52,916
Like, "why does everyone
suddenly hate our band?
1804
01:30:53,000 --> 01:30:55,083
"We sold 8 billion records
last year.
1805
01:30:55,167 --> 01:30:57,208
What's the deal?"
1806
01:30:57,292 --> 01:30:59,458
So it's confusing.
1807
01:30:59,541 --> 01:31:01,250
It was not
just the Bee Gees
1808
01:31:01,333 --> 01:31:07,458
but the idea of dance in that period,
1810
01:31:07,541 --> 01:31:10,417
it was no longer acceptable
1811
01:31:10,499 --> 01:31:13,000
for this kind of music
to carry the weight,
1812
01:31:13,083 --> 01:31:15,000
to carry the industry.
1813
01:31:16,666 --> 01:31:18,499
Everybody was at that point
in their lives
1814
01:31:18,583 --> 01:31:22,375
where they began to look
for other things to do.
1815
01:31:23,875 --> 01:31:26,417
And Andy was having
problems too.
1816
01:31:26,499 --> 01:31:30,125
Andy? Andy... I saw him in Malibu.
1818
01:31:30,208 --> 01:31:31,250
He'd been involved
1819
01:31:31,333 --> 01:31:33,624
with a lot of people
who were doing drugs,
1820
01:31:33,708 --> 01:31:35,333
and he was doing drugs.
1821
01:31:35,417 --> 01:31:37,791
He was doing cocaine.
1822
01:31:37,875 --> 01:31:40,583
I talked to him
outside on the balcony,
1823
01:31:40,666 --> 01:31:42,583
saying, you know, "this is
really a nice house, Andy.
1824
01:31:42,666 --> 01:31:44,749
"It's a nice car out there,
that Porsche.
1825
01:31:44,833 --> 01:31:46,000
"Really nice.
1826
01:31:46,083 --> 01:31:48,375
You're not gonna keep all this,
you know."
1827
01:31:48,458 --> 01:31:49,833
And he said,
"what do you mean?"
1828
01:31:49,916 --> 01:31:51,833
I said,
"you do what you're doing,
1829
01:31:51,916 --> 01:31:53,333
"this stuff will vanish.
1830
01:31:53,417 --> 01:31:54,791
"All this stuff will go.
1831
01:31:54,875 --> 01:31:57,167
Your career will go
out the window, everything."
1832
01:31:57,250 --> 01:32:00,208
And he says, "I know. I know.
I know what I have to do."
1833
01:32:00,292 --> 01:32:03,041
There was a lot of chaos
that I didn't witness,
1834
01:32:03,125 --> 01:32:05,666
but I was aware of it.
1835
01:32:05,749 --> 01:32:07,000
We were scattered
all over the place
1836
01:32:07,083 --> 01:32:08,333
for a little while.
1837
01:32:10,292 --> 01:32:14,041
Robin was either in New York,
or Maurice was in england.
1838
01:32:14,125 --> 01:32:15,499
I was alone at the time,
1839
01:32:15,583 --> 01:32:18,000
and I got a phone call
from Barbra.
1840
01:32:20,791 --> 01:32:23,333
She asked me
about writing songs for her,
1841
01:32:23,417 --> 01:32:26,666
and that terrified me.
1842
01:32:26,749 --> 01:32:29,375
I don't know if I can do this,
you know?
1843
01:32:29,458 --> 01:32:30,708
So I called my brothers,
1844
01:32:30,791 --> 01:32:33,375
and I said,
"this is what we gotta do.
1845
01:32:33,458 --> 01:32:35,499
And let's do it."
1846
01:32:35,583 --> 01:32:37,749
And that's how
the "guilty" album came about.
1847
01:32:41,958 --> 01:32:44,833
We really could not get
on the radio.
1848
01:32:44,916 --> 01:32:48,375
So the whole idea was
to write for other people.
1849
01:32:48,458 --> 01:32:49,708
Let's be songwriters.
1850
01:32:49,791 --> 01:32:52,417
Let's try and graduate
from being a group
1851
01:32:52,499 --> 01:32:55,583
that's probably...
1852
01:32:55,666 --> 01:32:58,000
Beginning to fade, you know?
1853
01:32:58,083 --> 01:33:00,708
Let's see if we can
dance around that.
1854
01:33:10,292 --> 01:33:12,583
It was more about outlets
for writing,
1855
01:33:12,666 --> 01:33:16,125
writing songs
that aren't Bee Gees songs.
1856
01:33:16,208 --> 01:33:18,083
They have an attitude
somewhere else.
1857
01:33:33,541 --> 01:33:36,083
Now, Robin, you and Barry
cowrote "woman in love,"
1858
01:33:36,167 --> 01:33:38,541
which became
the international smash.
1859
01:33:38,624 --> 01:33:41,208
Was it difficult
taking the woman's perspective?
1860
01:33:41,292 --> 01:33:43,791
No.
1861
01:33:43,875 --> 01:33:45,250
It's our way of doing things.
1862
01:33:45,333 --> 01:33:46,292
We will assume that role
1863
01:33:46,375 --> 01:33:47,916
within the song
to write the song.
1864
01:33:48,000 --> 01:33:49,875
After
the Barbra Streisand album,
1865
01:33:49,958 --> 01:33:52,083
managers would call up
all the time:
1866
01:33:52,167 --> 01:33:53,958
"Gee, can I get together
with you guys?
1867
01:33:54,041 --> 01:33:55,333
Will you make my record?"
1868
01:33:55,417 --> 01:33:56,833
And, you know,
established artists.
1869
01:34:12,708 --> 01:34:13,791
It was just as important
for US
1870
01:34:13,875 --> 01:34:15,583
to have an artist singing
one of our songs
1871
01:34:15,666 --> 01:34:18,333
and being on the radio
as it was for ourselves.
1872
01:34:27,666 --> 01:34:29,458
When you write a song
with someone in mind
1873
01:34:29,541 --> 01:34:31,000
that you really love
1874
01:34:31,083 --> 01:34:33,833
and then that person ends up
singing it,
1875
01:34:33,916 --> 01:34:35,624
there's no reward like it.
1876
01:34:47,708 --> 01:34:50,833
We wrote so many
different types of song,
1877
01:34:50,916 --> 01:34:53,666
and that created
that new determination
1878
01:34:53,749 --> 01:34:56,833
for US to become
the Bee Gees again.
1879
01:35:05,916 --> 01:35:07,583
I think, over time,
1880
01:35:07,666 --> 01:35:10,041
we became
more and more unified.
1881
01:35:10,125 --> 01:35:11,499
By '85,
1882
01:35:11,583 --> 01:35:13,041
we really got it together
as a group.
1883
01:35:15,250 --> 01:35:17,791
We became a real band again.
1884
01:35:29,833 --> 01:35:31,624
We never really had
a category.
1885
01:35:31,708 --> 01:35:33,875
We just had different periods,
1886
01:35:33,958 --> 01:35:36,499
and we managed to fit
into different eras,
1887
01:35:36,583 --> 01:35:38,375
and we saw a lot of people
1888
01:35:38,458 --> 01:35:41,499
who were the champions
of their era come and go.
1889
01:35:41,583 --> 01:35:44,499
We didn't always connect,
but we stayed around.
1890
01:35:44,583 --> 01:35:46,791
We managed to defy
the criticism
1891
01:35:46,875 --> 01:35:47,875
most of the time.
1892
01:35:54,666 --> 01:35:55,875
And I just hope and pray
1893
01:35:55,958 --> 01:35:58,250
that the music lasts,
you know?
1894
01:35:58,333 --> 01:35:59,749
Because I begin to recognize
1895
01:35:59,833 --> 01:36:01,875
that there's not as much time
in front of me
1896
01:36:01,958 --> 01:36:04,624
as there is behind me.
1897
01:36:10,833 --> 01:36:11,916
Hi, Australia.
1898
01:36:12,000 --> 01:36:13,791
This is Andy gibb
here in Miami,
1899
01:36:13,875 --> 01:36:15,583
and I'd like to wish
all you kids
1900
01:36:15,666 --> 01:36:16,958
one more time?
1901
01:36:20,000 --> 01:36:21,083
Hi, Australia.
1902
01:36:21,167 --> 01:36:22,749
This is Andy gibb
here in Miami,
1903
01:36:22,833 --> 01:36:24,125
and I'd like to wish
all the kids
1904
01:36:24,208 --> 01:36:26,791
and all my friends in Australia
a very merry Christmas
1905
01:36:26,875 --> 01:36:28,125
and a happy new year.
1906
01:36:48,499 --> 01:36:49,666
Barry was first,
1907
01:36:49,749 --> 01:36:51,791
and then, in fact, Robin's
half an hour older than I am,
1908
01:36:51,875 --> 01:36:53,250
and we're twins,
1909
01:36:53,333 --> 01:36:55,958
and that's
how we basically met.
1910
01:37:10,250 --> 01:37:11,458
Robert stigwood,
this is for you.
1911
01:37:11,541 --> 01:37:12,458
No, you didn't do it.
1912
01:37:12,541 --> 01:37:13,791
You gotta react to the thing.
What line?
1913
01:37:13,875 --> 01:37:14,958
The reaction?
1914
01:37:15,041 --> 01:37:15,958
Yeah.
All right.
1915
01:37:16,041 --> 01:37:17,499
It's a closeup.
Okay.
1916
01:37:17,583 --> 01:37:19,041
Yeah, that's right.
Sorry, do it again.
1917
01:37:19,125 --> 01:37:20,458
Yeah, do it again.
Do it again.
1918
01:37:20,541 --> 01:37:22,000
Okay.
1919
01:37:22,083 --> 01:37:23,624
Robert stigwood,
this is for you.
1920
01:37:46,250 --> 01:37:47,292
Ladies and gentlemen,
1921
01:37:47,375 --> 01:37:49,833
an Oscar nominee
for "Saturday night fever,"
1922
01:37:49,916 --> 01:37:52,458
John Travolta.
1923
01:37:52,541 --> 01:37:54,541
Tonight
1924
01:37:54,624 --> 01:37:57,125
the recording academy
is celebrating
1925
01:37:57,208 --> 01:38:00,167
three brothers
who changed my life
1926
01:38:00,250 --> 01:38:02,541
and the world of music forever,
1927
01:38:02,624 --> 01:38:05,624
and though brothers Robin
and Maurice are sadly gone,
1928
01:38:05,708 --> 01:38:08,666
we are thrilled to be joined
by a brother like no other,
1929
01:38:08,749 --> 01:38:11,458
one of the most successful
singersongwriters
1930
01:38:11,541 --> 01:38:14,417
of our times,
my friend Barry gibb.
1931
01:38:40,250 --> 01:38:43,292
They're a brilliant chapter
in the book of music.
1932
01:38:43,375 --> 01:38:44,875
You know,
some people are a footnote.
1933
01:38:44,958 --> 01:38:45,916
Some people take up
1934
01:38:46,000 --> 01:38:48,458
the Beatles and Dylan
take up huge
1935
01:38:48,541 --> 01:38:49,875
but the Bee Gees are there.
1936
01:38:57,292 --> 01:38:59,458
You go back and look
at their body of work,
1937
01:38:59,541 --> 01:39:01,916
and it's some of the best
songs ever written.
1938
01:39:05,292 --> 01:39:06,749
There's nothing else to say
about the Bee Gees
1939
01:39:06,833 --> 01:39:08,417
except they were
fucking awesome.
1940
01:39:52,041 --> 01:39:55,458
When I think about it now,
1941
01:39:55,541 --> 01:39:57,875
I think about
how it all sort of started.
1942
01:39:59,541 --> 01:40:01,791
We just had this dream,
1943
01:40:01,875 --> 01:40:04,292
and we thought, "well,
1944
01:40:04,375 --> 01:40:06,292
what do we want
to be famous for?"
1945
01:40:08,417 --> 01:40:11,041
It turns out
it was the songwriting.
1946
01:40:14,916 --> 01:40:18,041
And I think
everything we set out to do,
1947
01:40:18,125 --> 01:40:20,208
we did, against all odds.
1948
01:40:22,417 --> 01:40:24,333
I can't honestly come to terms
with the fact
1949
01:40:24,417 --> 01:40:26,167
that they're not here anymore.
1950
01:40:26,250 --> 01:40:28,167
Never been able to do that.
1951
01:40:32,417 --> 01:40:34,167
I'm always reliving it.
1952
01:40:34,250 --> 01:40:35,499
It's always,
"what would Robin think?"
1953
01:40:35,583 --> 01:40:37,333
Or, "what would
Maurice think?"
1954
01:40:37,417 --> 01:40:39,167
And Andy.
1955
01:40:39,250 --> 01:40:40,624
It never goes away.
1956
01:40:43,749 --> 01:40:47,041
And what I wanted
to say earlier
1957
01:40:47,125 --> 01:40:49,000
is that I'd rather have 'em
all back here,
1958
01:40:49,083 --> 01:40:50,583
no hits at all.
1959
01:44:56,125 --> 01:44:59,167
Barry, Barry, Barry,
1960
01:44:59,250 --> 01:45:03,666
Barry, Barry, Barry,
Barry, Barry, Barry,
1961
01:45:03,749 --> 01:45:08,624
Barry, Barry, Barry,
Barry, Barry, Barry.
1962
01:45:14,208 --> 01:45:16,833
One, two, three, four.
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