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It was just a real quick,
out-of-the-dark shot,
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and then it was over.
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He did not see it coming.
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A shot from the dark.
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It was absolutely terrible.
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There was half
of his head missing.
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It's something that I don't
think I'll ever forget.
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A secret lurking
around every corner.
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This mystery woman
shows up at the house
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who reported, "hey,
I'm having car trouble."
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We see
a text message that says,
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"you didn't see me,
and I didn't see you."
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He said that
he had no weapons.
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So why is he walking around
with a shotgun shell
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in his pocket?
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Her immediate
response to me was,
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"I want my lawyer."
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That tells me
she's hiding something.
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Yes, you have an alibi,
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but could they be trying to
protect each other in some sort
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of bigger and nefarious action?
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The truth will be revealed.
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The DNA matches...
It's on the bus stock,
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on the trigger,
and on the handle.
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If there was one aha moment
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in the entire investigation,
that's it.
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Every day in North America,
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dozens of people are murdered.
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The key to solving
the toughest of these homicides
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lies in the final 24 hours
of the victim's life.
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To crack the case,
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detectives must reconstruct
that critical time line,
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the minutes and hours
containing evidence
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that can help unlock the mystery
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and catch the killer.
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Bluffton, south Carolina...
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A lowcountry town brimming
with southern charm.
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Bluffton is a coastal
town with a lot of emphasis on
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outdoor activities,
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water activities, and then,
of course, fresh seafood.
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Although there's only
20,000 or so who live
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in bluffton, tons of people
come in, and that's tourism.
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I mean, it's... the
hospitality industry is big.
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It still has
that small-town feel
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where everybody seems to
know everybody.
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We were actually just
recently nominated as
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the safest city in the state
of south Carolina.
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But one Autumn evening,
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bluffton's reputation
for safety is shattered.
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The 911 call came in
at 1:10 A.M.
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On October 28, 2015.
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Police rush to
the scene of the crime.
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The victim was sitting on
a couch, so he's sitting up.
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He is slumped over
to the side slightly,
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but his legs are crossed.
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If not for the obvious wound
that he had on his head,
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you'd think he'd fallen
asleep there, you know,
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passed out or something.
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There was a entrance
wound on the left side
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of his head and an exit wound
on the right side
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with half of his head missing.
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There was brain matter
scattered across the wall.
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The victim is
33-year-old restaurant owner,
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Jonathan cherol.
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John appeared to be
very well-liked,
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um, in the community,
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very outgoing, very friendly.
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Jonathan, by all accounts,
was kind of
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the all-American,
good-looking guy.
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He was a businessman,
pretty charming,
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the ladies liked him,
he had a lot of charisma.
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Tasked with
investigating Jonathan's murder
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are detective baker odom and
captain Joseph babkiewicz.
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I was on the force
for about 10 years
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when this happened,
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but it was only
my second homicide,
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so it was fairly new to me,
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and it's something that
I don't think I'll ever forget.
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As detectives survey
the crime scene,
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they aim to get a snapshot of
just how the attack went down.
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One thing
that we noticed is
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the two shotgun shells that were
on the ground,
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so we knew two shotgun shots
were fired.
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One hit our victim, John cherol,
in the head.
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The other one went off
into the garage.
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The absolute devastation
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caused by a shotgun could be
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the objective,
because a pellet-based round
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works like shrapnel
and covers a large area,
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meaning that if you weren't
a crack shot, you could still
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probably cause some
serious damage
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if you were just in
the ballpark.
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You've got a small
treeline or some shrubs that
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really separate your backyard
from the fairway
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and that provide
the perfect cover
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and concealment for someone
who wanted to spy or,
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in this case, murder somebody.
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To find
Jonathan cherol's killer,
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investigators will need to
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piece together the last
24 hours of his life.
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He was holding on to a cellphone
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that he never dropped
after he got shot,
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which we thought was unusual.
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The first thing
that comes to my mind
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is that he did not
see it coming.
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It seems very clear
at that point that it
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was just a real quick,
out-of-the-dark shot,
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and then it was over.
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The sniper-style
attack perplexes detectives.
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We're all kind of
a little baffled by
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what's going on here.
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Is this a targeted thing?
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One of the first things
that we're thinking is, well,
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we're gonna figure out
everything about
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John's background,
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who might have had
issues with him.
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Detectives start
building their time line
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by speaking with the man who was
with Jonathan when he was shot
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right off the bat,
we want to speak with gene.
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Gene tells them
that on Tuesday,
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October 27th, Jonathan was
hanging out with friends
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from about noon to five o'clock.
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Gene is working that day.
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He gets off work at 11:35 P.M.,
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and he goes to Jonathan's
and arrives around midnight
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that night.
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So a 12:53 A.M.,
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Jonathan on the back porch,
he's shot and killed.
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His buddy gene says,
"I'm out of here."
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He goes to run in the house,
gene reports
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that he looks kind of
where the shot came from
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or where he thought
it came from.
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He didn't see anything.
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He didn't see anybody,
but it was dark,
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and he was probably running
for his life.
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Gene immediately yelled
for John's roommate,
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Rupert, told him
that John had been shot,
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and he ran and called 911.
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As it turns out,
Jonathan's roommate,
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Rupert, was sleeping when
the shooting occurred
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and didn't hear a thing.
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Detectives asked gene
if he was aware of
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anything unusual transpiring
over the course of the night.
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According to what
Jonathan told gene,
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around 10:53 P.M.,
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a strange female just happens
to pull into his driveway.
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This mystery woman shows
up at the house who reported,
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"hey, I'm having car trouble,"
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and so we went out
to try to help her.
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This mystery woman
tries to kiss Jonathan,
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which he finds very strange,
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and he told gene
he didn't know the woman.
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Jonathan tells gene
that she tried getting
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into the house, and he wouldn't
let her into the house,
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and she eventually got back
into the car,
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was able to start her car,
and go on her way.
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There is no question
in my mind that this
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could potentially be related
to Jonathan being shot.
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Detectives canvass
the neighborhood,
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hoping to find information
that will lead them to
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the mystery woman.
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As it turns out,
John's house is also very close
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to one of the exits
of the neighborhood,
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and at that exit,
and just like all the exits for
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this neighborhood, they have
security cameras facing into
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the neighborhood and facing
out of the neighborhood.
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Police officers grab
security footage, and they,
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in fact, find that there was
a mystery woman who showed up
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at John's driveway,
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but the mystery gets deeper at
that point,
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because body language
doesn't support
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the fact that Jonathan and this
woman didn't know each other.
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It is clear from the
video that John knew this woman
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and that she was an acquaintance
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or possibly a friend of his.
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So now you have gene,
who reports that
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Jonathan was freaked out
by some mystery guest,
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but then you have video
that clearly shows
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that the mystery guest
wasn't a stranger at all.
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Who's lying? Did Jonathan lie
to gene for some reason?
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Or did gene make that whole
thing up for investigators?
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Was gene involved?
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Detectives are hunting
for their first suspect
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in the sniper-style murder
of Jonathan cherol,
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a mystery woman with car trouble
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who he appears to have received
on his driveway.
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At this point,
what we know about
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this mystery woman is
on the security camera,
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we've got a blond Caucasian
woman, you know, slight build.
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You know, you wouldn't be
able to pick her out of
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a mug shot based
on the security footage,
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you know, it's nighttime
and all that stuff,
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but you can still see enough
to be able to get a pretty good
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idea of who this might be if you
were to then see them later.
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We know that this mystery
woman arrives
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at Jonathan's house
around 10:53 P.M.
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Later, around 11:43, she backs
out of the driveway
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and leaves the house.
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But then
something curious catches
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detective babkiewicz's eye.
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As I'm watching the video,
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I watch it further to the time
that the 911 call came in,
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and we see the same vehicle
drive slowly past
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Jonathan's house at 12:43 A.M.
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The first thing on my mind is me
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and my team have to find out
who this female is.
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Investigators run
a check on the vehicle
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and learn that it belongs
to a local woman...
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Colette Collins.
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Colette Collins...
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Not someone necessarily you
would think would be a suspect.
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She's got no criminal history.
She's a mom.
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She's got a pretty good job, her
husband runs a local business
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in bluffton, so she doesn't
really fit that profile
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who would be involved
in such a gruesome murder.
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But Colette's car is linked
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to the scene of the crime.
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Detectives summon her to
the station for questioning.
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My first impression of Colette
is that she seemed very calm.
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If she was involved
with this murder,
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she seemed
very comfortable with it,
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and she was prepared to answer
any questions we had.
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The detectives asked
how she knows Jonathan,
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why was she there, why was
she driving by his house?
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And she says that she and her
husband are friends with him.
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They had met at one of
his bars and became friends,
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and she really describes them
as very close friends.
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She seems like she's
trying to help the police
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with the investigation,
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and she is actually upset
about the fact that something
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has happened to her friend.
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Detectives question
Colette about her whereabouts
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the night of the murder.
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She tells US that she had been
working at her job that night,
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which is a country club
in the nearby area.
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We know that Colette arrives
at Jonathan's place
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around 10:53.
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So, of course, the next
question is why are you at
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the house at, you know,
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at 10 o'clock,
11 o'clock at night?
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Why are you driving by?
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She says that her husband, Sam,
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struggles with addictions,
with drugs and alcohol,
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so they have a dry house,
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but she likes to enjoy her wine
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or her alcohol
every now and again,
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and so she describes that
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on this particular night,
she'd gone out,
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got herself a bottle of wine,
and was riding around bluffton
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drinking her wine
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and just happened to drive
down Jonathan's street.
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Colette's story that
she was out driving around
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aimlessly burning fuel,
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guzzling white wine
behind the wheel,
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I mean, it's just
so bizarre that it
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has a certain ring
of truth to it.
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But what detectives
aren't buying is Colette's
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story that she just happened
to pop in on Jonathan.
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So as they start
aligning the facts,
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they see her drive by his house,
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they see the interaction where
obviously they knew each other.
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She's out drinking.
It's late at night.
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The automatic assumption,
or at least interest, would be,
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you know, there may be
a little more to
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the relationship.
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But Colette denies any kind of
romantic entanglement with
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Jonathan, she says,
"we're all just friends.
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"In fact, my husband
and he are best friends.
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I'm kind of the third wheel,
if anything else."
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Colette claims that
after drinking and driving
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around in the car and dropping
in on Jonathan,
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she simply went home,
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arriving around one o'clock
in the morning.
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Colette tells US that Sam is
upset that she's been drinking,
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and they have some words
about that,
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but it wasn't
anything significant,
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and that that pretty much is the
end of her night at that point.
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To confirm Colette's story,
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detectives reach out
to her husband, Sam.
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Sam's got this very,
very pronounced lamp.
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He's walking with a cane
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and initially seems very,
very cooperative.
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Sam tells US that he got shot.
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It appears that it was
a drug deal gone bad.
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He actually took a shot
almost directly to his knee,
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and he's got a permanent limp
for the rest of his life.
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It messed him up pretty good.
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Sam pretty much verifies
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Colette's story that yes,
they're all friends.
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No, there's no affair going on.
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Yes, she rolled in drunk.
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He had been home all night
watching TV.
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They got into a big fight,
and then they went to bed.
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Sam was home all evening,
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and if Colette arrived home
at 1 A.M.,
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that means she would have been
driving at
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the time of the murder with
no opportunity to kill Jonathan.
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And seeing no motive for
her to kill their close friend,
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detectives remove her
as a suspect.
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We didn't have a... a...
Any indication as to why
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this happened, really.
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Didn't have any indication
as to who it might have been.
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It was just this, you know,
wide open, going all these
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different directions,
trying to find which
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thread do we go with as far as
where the suspect is.
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With no new leads to go on,
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detectives circle back to focus
on what they do know.
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So at this point
in the time line,
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you've got gene, who claims
he saw everything
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but wasn't involved.
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Then you've got
this guy, Rupert,
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who apparently was asleep
inside the home but didn't hear
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anything, didn't see anything.
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Could they be trying to
protect each other
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in some sort of bigger
and nefarious action?
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Thomas: Sometimes the killer
will put themselves
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at the scene, to deflect
their own guilt
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and involvement
and put the suspicion
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or focus onto somebody else.
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As they investigate
possible motives
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for gene and Rupert,
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detectives discover
that Rupert had
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a reason to want revenge
on Jonathan.
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As it turns out, not only are
Rupert and Jonathan roommates,
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but his family had invested
pretty heavily in some of
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Jonathan's interests, and they
lost their shirts in the deal.
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Losing a lot of money is not
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easy for people... that could
make some enemies.
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So again, as you're looking at
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the kind of execution shooting
it was,
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is this guy
or his family involved?
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Police bring Rupert in
for questioning,
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and he admits there was bad
blood between his family
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and Jonathan.
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There were some
allegations that money was
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missing and that John had
potentially been taking
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money from the business.
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Losing money
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and theft could be
a motive for murder.
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Detectives put
Rupert's and gene's timelines
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to the test,
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hoping this will shed some
light on whether they are
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telling the truth
or spreading lies.
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Rupert tells police that
he got home around 3 P.M.,
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that John and a friend of his
were there.
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They had dinner around 7 P.M.
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He went to bed
shortly thereafter.
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Around midnight, he wakes up,
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walks outside because he hears
John and gene outside
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talking, goes out there,
you know, smokes
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a cigarette and talks to them
for a few minutes.
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He then goes back inside
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and lays back down,
and he had fallen asleep again.
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Detectives compare
Rupert's story with gene's.
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Police are able to confirm
that gene was at work
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until 11:35 and that
he arrived at Jonathan's
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around 12, but that does not
eliminate Rupert
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and gene as suspects
at this point.
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With no way to eliminate
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gene and Rupert
through their timelines,
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detectives test the men's
hands for gunshot residue.
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We tested both
their hands for gunshot residue
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to see if they had fired
a gun recently,
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and both of them came
back negative.
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With gene and Rupert cleared,
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detectives dig into
Jonathan's personal life
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looking for someone with
a motive for murder.
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Jonathan likes
the attention of the ladies.
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The ladies liked to give him
that attention.
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He's not that discerning
whether or not
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the ladies have someone else
in their lives,
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and word is around town that,
on more than one occasion, that
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may have caused a bit of drama
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in his life when husbands and
boyfriends who didn't care for
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the fact... surely Jonathan had
to know that playing with fire
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probably is not the best choice,
you know, if you're going to
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mess around with someone
else's woman,
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you're going to get people
irate at you,
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and jealousy is a big motivator.
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If your wife, your girlfriend's
stepping out on you, not only
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are you angry at her,
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but then you're also saying
that guy is the reason
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she left me.
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This guy is a guy we need
to have a conversation with.
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Detectives theorize
that the murder of
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Jonathan cherol could be
a crime of passion
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and reorient
their investigation to
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examine jealous husbands
and boyfriends.
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Gene told police that,
in particular,
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there was one woman, Annie,
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who John was friends with,
as well as gene.
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Annie had come to John and told
him that her boyfriend had
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beaten her up and that
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she was scared of him and that
he was very jealous of
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her relationships
with other people,
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um, especially John.
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Annie agrees to come in
for an interview.
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We talk to her, and she opens
up about her boyfriend, patton.
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If she really is
going to John for comfort
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and patton found out about it,
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and he has this incredibly
violent streak in him,
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patton could potentially
be our suspect.
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00:19:40,012 --> 00:19:42,180
When detectives
investigate further,
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they learn that patton has
an airtight alibi for the night
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of the murder
and wasn't in the area.
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00:19:48,420 --> 00:19:51,355
With little to go on in
Jonathan's personal life,
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00:19:51,456 --> 00:19:53,324
detectives turn
their investigation
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to his professional connections.
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In 2015,
John started a business
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00:19:58,830 --> 00:20:00,531
with another restaurant owner.
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00:20:01,900 --> 00:20:04,869
He's a good-looking,
successful businessman,
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but that's the surface...
Underneath, the businesses,
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not so financially stable.
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There were a lot of people
that Jonathan had
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00:20:14,279 --> 00:20:17,481
lost money for that had maybe
some shady dealings with.
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As a psychologist, I think it's
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common for people to have
different facades.
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We may have our personal one
or our work one,
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but sometimes where we get
into trouble is when these
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facades don't tend to mesh well
or they're in conflict.
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So in this case, it may be
possible that Jonathan's image
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that he wants to project as
a promising restaurateur
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and standup guy is now
being threatened,
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which might lead him potentially
into a decline in terms of
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his standing in the community.
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Jonathan may start
to get desperate.
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He may look for solutions
that he ordinarily wouldn't,
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00:20:52,417 --> 00:20:54,552
and so this may have been
the case.
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He got deeper and deeper into
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a cycle that he couldn't get
himself out of.
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Detectives investigate
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Jonathan's new
business partnership with
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husband and wife,
Shirley and clive.
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Shirley and clive,
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business associates with John,
I had a rough falling out.
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That gave US some
possible motive
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that could potentially lead
to the killing of John.
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With Shirley and clive
in their crosshairs,
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detectives call them into
the station for questioning.
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They tell the police about
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their business relationship
with John.
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Shortly after they entered
into this agreement,
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there were allegations of
misappropriation of funds from
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Shirley and clive about John.
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00:21:39,831 --> 00:21:41,899
Shirley's business
had been around for awhile,
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was very successful.
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They merged, and all of
a sudden, everything folds,
448
00:21:45,704 --> 00:21:47,038
and all this money is gone,
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00:21:47,139 --> 00:21:51,609
and so Shirley has seen
this business that was
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doing great,
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00:21:53,111 --> 00:21:56,414
now it's gone,
and her life is ruined now.
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John's desperate for money,
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00:21:59,851 --> 00:22:03,487
and it's well known that
desperate people are prepared
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to take risks that
they otherwise wouldn't,
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and when you're prepared
to take those risks,
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you can't necessarily
control that outcome.
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The flip side to that is,
if you're responsible or have
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a hand in making
somebody else desperate,
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00:22:16,601 --> 00:22:19,737
like Shirley and her husband,
that can come back full circle.
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00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:25,042
Shirley and clive
had a motive to kill Jonathan,
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but did they have
the opportunity?
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When detectives question
Shirley and clive
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about their whereabouts
when Jonathan was murdered,
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they say they were at home
from 9 o'clock P.M. until
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7 o'clock A.M.,
when they went to work.
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00:22:40,058 --> 00:22:42,293
During the time of the murder,
I was with her.
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She was with me.
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So it creates a very
frustrating thing.
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Yes, you have an alibi,
but it's not unheard of that
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a married couple would lie
for each other.
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So it just creates another
layer of, okay, they're alibied,
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but we can't rule them out.
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00:22:57,242 --> 00:22:59,844
Detectives ask Shirley
and clive if they own
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any guns... under pressure,
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00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,682
the couple makes
a reluctant admission.
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Turns out, they own a shotgun.
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00:23:07,786 --> 00:23:10,388
Here's pieces falling in...
Police say,
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00:23:10,489 --> 00:23:13,023
"hey, maybe we got 'em."
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They take the gun,
the bring it to ballistics.
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00:23:17,329 --> 00:23:19,330
But when the results
come back,
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00:23:19,431 --> 00:23:22,266
detectives are surprised
by what they learn.
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The shotgun did not
match the ballistics on
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00:23:25,303 --> 00:23:27,304
the shells that were found
at the crime scene.
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00:23:27,406 --> 00:23:28,606
Because of that, we were able to
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00:23:28,707 --> 00:23:32,076
eliminate both Shirley
and clive as suspects.
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00:23:34,446 --> 00:23:36,113
With their leads dried up,
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the investigation hits a wall.
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Heat really is getting
turned up on the investigators.
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00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,287
They keep coming up
with dead end
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00:23:43,388 --> 00:23:45,289
after dead end,
alibied suspect after
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00:23:45,390 --> 00:23:48,259
alibied suspect,
you've got a gruesome murder
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in a small town,
a small tourist town.
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You know, there's answers that
have to be found,
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because it's starting
to take a toll
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on a small community
that doesn't deal with murders
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00:23:57,002 --> 00:23:58,402
every single day.
497
00:23:58,503 --> 00:24:00,771
Still believing
the murder could be connected to
498
00:24:00,872 --> 00:24:02,573
Jonathan's business failings,
499
00:24:02,674 --> 00:24:05,943
detectives dig deeper
into his finances.
500
00:24:06,044 --> 00:24:07,645
He owes a lot of people
a lot of money,
501
00:24:07,746 --> 00:24:10,080
because he was begging
from Peter to pay Paul,
502
00:24:10,182 --> 00:24:11,849
and so now the walls
start closing in.
503
00:24:11,950 --> 00:24:14,418
If you're getting money from
here and here to pay this guy
504
00:24:14,519 --> 00:24:16,086
and you understand
how debt works,
505
00:24:16,188 --> 00:24:18,823
all of a sudden, that whole
game is gonna end.
506
00:24:18,924 --> 00:24:20,124
That whole game is gonna stop,
507
00:24:20,225 --> 00:24:22,526
and everyone at the same time
is gonna have their hands out,
508
00:24:22,627 --> 00:24:24,228
and that could create
a serious issue
509
00:24:24,329 --> 00:24:25,729
for somebody who owes
a lot of people
510
00:24:25,831 --> 00:24:26,931
a lot of money in a small town.
511
00:24:28,266 --> 00:24:30,000
The deeper detectives dig,
512
00:24:30,101 --> 00:24:31,836
the more they learn
that Jonathan's
513
00:24:31,937 --> 00:24:34,271
complicated money issues
weren't restricted
514
00:24:34,372 --> 00:24:36,740
to his business dealings.
515
00:24:36,842 --> 00:24:40,010
Jonathan was
in great debt because
516
00:24:40,111 --> 00:24:42,346
he has some type of
drug problem.
517
00:24:42,447 --> 00:24:46,183
John was into the use of
anti-anxiety medication
518
00:24:46,284 --> 00:24:49,153
and potentially some
other drugs, as well.
519
00:24:49,254 --> 00:24:51,355
The deeper he got into trying to
520
00:24:51,456 --> 00:24:53,891
be successful with
the restaurant business,
521
00:24:53,992 --> 00:24:58,829
the deeper he got in with
his issues with pills and drugs,
522
00:24:58,930 --> 00:25:02,566
and all of a sudden,
he's got this habit.
523
00:25:02,667 --> 00:25:03,667
It's a serious problem.
524
00:25:05,871 --> 00:25:07,805
I can't even begin to
imagine what was going through
525
00:25:07,906 --> 00:25:10,241
Jonathan's life
personally, late at night,
526
00:25:10,342 --> 00:25:12,576
when the demons come where
he spends all day being
527
00:25:12,677 --> 00:25:14,912
this super charismatic
ladies man and having fun,
528
00:25:15,013 --> 00:25:17,681
and I'm sure he was, and
spending other people's money,
529
00:25:17,782 --> 00:25:20,084
but he had to have been
cognizant that... that
530
00:25:20,185 --> 00:25:23,053
stuff was coming down, husbands
are getting more aware,
531
00:25:23,154 --> 00:25:24,388
the boyfriends are getting
more aware,
532
00:25:24,489 --> 00:25:27,124
the bills are coming due,
his business is closed.
533
00:25:27,225 --> 00:25:29,226
He probably was feeling
like his whole world,
534
00:25:29,327 --> 00:25:31,562
this whole big castle
that he created,
535
00:25:31,663 --> 00:25:33,430
is slowly crumbling down
upon him.
536
00:25:34,833 --> 00:25:36,667
When investigators
probe Jonathan's
537
00:25:36,768 --> 00:25:38,602
cellphone records for clues,
538
00:25:38,703 --> 00:25:40,971
they make a shocking discovery.
539
00:25:41,072 --> 00:25:44,542
The last text that he gets
is, "shoot his ass.
540
00:25:44,643 --> 00:25:45,910
I don't give an f anymore."
541
00:25:48,179 --> 00:25:50,681
That number that he had
been texting,
542
00:25:50,782 --> 00:25:52,449
we got a search warrant
for that, as well,
543
00:25:52,551 --> 00:25:54,952
and determined that it
belonged to Josh.
544
00:25:56,154 --> 00:25:58,556
Just is... wouldn't necessarily
call him a regular,
545
00:25:58,657 --> 00:26:02,259
but we see him more than
we'd like to, you know,
546
00:26:02,360 --> 00:26:03,360
with the police department,
547
00:26:03,461 --> 00:26:06,564
and he's been in and out of
jail a few times,
548
00:26:06,665 --> 00:26:10,401
mainly small level
narcotic stuff.
549
00:26:10,502 --> 00:26:12,336
Josh is questioned
by detectives
550
00:26:12,437 --> 00:26:13,938
at the local detention center.
551
00:26:15,607 --> 00:26:18,609
Between 12 and 5, Jonathan
and Josh were running errands.
552
00:26:18,710 --> 00:26:20,110
We know from 5 to 7,
553
00:26:20,211 --> 00:26:21,545
both Josh and Jonathan were at
554
00:26:21,646 --> 00:26:24,315
the house, and they were
playing video games.
555
00:26:24,416 --> 00:26:26,884
And then Josh leaves.
556
00:26:28,253 --> 00:26:31,155
Josh's phone records
confirm he was nowhere near
557
00:26:31,256 --> 00:26:33,691
Jonathan's house at the time
of the murder,
558
00:26:33,792 --> 00:26:35,326
but he does offer up information
559
00:26:35,427 --> 00:26:37,194
that could lead
to a new suspect.
560
00:26:38,730 --> 00:26:41,165
Josh told US John
was going from drug dealer
561
00:26:41,266 --> 00:26:43,567
to drug dealer
to whoever who would
562
00:26:43,668 --> 00:26:46,503
supply him until
he got so far into debt
563
00:26:46,605 --> 00:26:48,005
that he wasn't able
to repay them.
564
00:26:49,174 --> 00:26:50,975
Did he borrow the money
from the wrong person
565
00:26:51,076 --> 00:26:52,743
who said,
"hey, it's time to pay up,"
566
00:26:52,844 --> 00:26:54,511
and he didn't have
the money to pay up?
567
00:26:54,613 --> 00:26:55,946
Could that be a motive?
568
00:26:56,047 --> 00:26:58,315
Could that have led up
to his ultimate demise?
569
00:27:07,626 --> 00:27:10,461
While investigating
Jonathan cherol's murder,
570
00:27:10,562 --> 00:27:13,564
police have uncovered a history
of business debts,
571
00:27:13,698 --> 00:27:17,835
a pill addiction, and unpaid
tabs with drug dealers,
572
00:27:17,936 --> 00:27:19,903
and now his friend Josh
573
00:27:20,005 --> 00:27:21,972
is providing more information
about him.
574
00:27:24,976 --> 00:27:28,278
The cops learn from Josh
that he now owes all kinds of
575
00:27:28,380 --> 00:27:30,714
drug dealers,
all kinds of bad guys, money,
576
00:27:30,815 --> 00:27:33,984
so desperate man
requires desperate measures.
577
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:35,619
He comes up
with this grand plan.
578
00:27:37,122 --> 00:27:38,989
Johnson thought Seth was
an easy target,
579
00:27:39,090 --> 00:27:40,758
because Seth had a limp to him,
580
00:27:40,859 --> 00:27:43,160
and so he set up
a robbery at his house.
581
00:27:44,429 --> 00:27:47,197
He figures that if he takes
Seth out, not only
582
00:27:47,298 --> 00:27:48,799
does he erase
his debt with Seth,
583
00:27:48,900 --> 00:27:51,435
but he steals Seth's money,
and he pays off all
584
00:27:51,536 --> 00:27:54,638
the other dealers... problem
solved, no fuss, no muss,
585
00:27:56,374 --> 00:27:59,877
I think plans that
Jonathan may have had seem
586
00:27:59,978 --> 00:28:03,147
to US, on the face of it,
as completely implausible,
587
00:28:03,248 --> 00:28:04,748
but you know,
when you're involved in
588
00:28:04,849 --> 00:28:09,053
a drug culture or subculture,
that's inherently violent.
589
00:28:10,889 --> 00:28:14,158
Jonathan's young, he may not
have fully understood
590
00:28:14,259 --> 00:28:17,428
the extent of the danger he may
have been putting himself in,
591
00:28:17,529 --> 00:28:20,898
but also people evaluate that
danger differently when they're
592
00:28:20,999 --> 00:28:23,867
under the influence of
substances or they're desperate.
593
00:28:23,968 --> 00:28:25,436
It makes you consider options
594
00:28:25,537 --> 00:28:28,272
that maybe you ordinarily
wouldn't have.
595
00:28:28,373 --> 00:28:30,941
Detectives need
to track down this Seth person
596
00:28:31,042 --> 00:28:32,476
as soon as possible,
597
00:28:32,577 --> 00:28:34,678
but they only have a first
name to go on.
598
00:28:36,014 --> 00:28:38,048
So cops then turned to Josh
again and say,
599
00:28:38,149 --> 00:28:40,117
"okay, who's Seth?"
600
00:28:40,218 --> 00:28:41,885
Who is this guy
that Jonathan felt that
601
00:28:41,986 --> 00:28:44,421
he could take out and solve
all his problems?
602
00:28:44,522 --> 00:28:49,059
So finally, Josh says,
"I don't know who Seth is,
603
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:50,427
"but I know who he's married to.
604
00:28:51,863 --> 00:28:53,030
Colette Collins."
605
00:28:55,366 --> 00:28:57,868
Now, if Seth is married
to Colette,
606
00:28:57,969 --> 00:29:01,872
that must mean, obviously,
that Seth is code for Sam.
607
00:29:05,977 --> 00:29:07,811
And that's absolutely
a moment
608
00:29:07,912 --> 00:29:08,812
where we're like, okay here...
609
00:29:08,913 --> 00:29:09,980
This is a big piece right here.
610
00:29:10,081 --> 00:29:12,449
We just got handed
something that...
611
00:29:12,517 --> 00:29:15,152
This is going to absolutely
cement the direction
612
00:29:15,253 --> 00:29:17,187
we're going in, finding
the guy that killed John.
613
00:29:19,324 --> 00:29:20,858
Sam and Colette Collins,
614
00:29:20,959 --> 00:29:22,159
the couple who claimed
to have been
615
00:29:22,260 --> 00:29:25,262
close friends with Jonathan
both have alibis.
616
00:29:26,698 --> 00:29:29,566
But knowing Jonathan had
planned a robbery and attack on
617
00:29:29,667 --> 00:29:32,603
Seth, also known
as Sam, detectives
618
00:29:32,704 --> 00:29:35,839
shift their focus back to
the couple and pay a visit to
619
00:29:35,940 --> 00:29:37,407
their home.
620
00:29:37,509 --> 00:29:40,177
There are several bulletholes
in the house,
621
00:29:40,278 --> 00:29:41,979
both that appeared to be
entering in
622
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:43,947
the house and exiting
to the house.
623
00:29:44,048 --> 00:29:45,516
So at some point, there was
624
00:29:45,617 --> 00:29:47,351
a shootout that occurred
over at the house.
625
00:29:49,988 --> 00:29:52,022
When we get a little more
detailed in questioning,
626
00:29:52,123 --> 00:29:55,058
Sam eventually does say
something happened,
627
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,795
and as I asked him more,
if he... if he thought
628
00:29:57,896 --> 00:30:01,365
that John was involved,
he says that John was over
629
00:30:01,466 --> 00:30:03,267
at the house, was acting weird,
630
00:30:03,368 --> 00:30:04,501
and then John left.
631
00:30:04,602 --> 00:30:06,470
A short time later,
these guys come
632
00:30:06,571 --> 00:30:09,273
up to Sam's house
and try to Rob him,
633
00:30:09,374 --> 00:30:12,276
so he did suspect John of
634
00:30:12,377 --> 00:30:13,777
setting the whole thing up.
635
00:30:13,878 --> 00:30:16,947
He said he wasn't mad at John
for it and that he just
636
00:30:17,048 --> 00:30:20,050
wanted to go after the people
that robbed his house.
637
00:30:21,586 --> 00:30:23,587
So police then
ask Sam, all right,
638
00:30:23,688 --> 00:30:25,689
if you knew that Jonathan was
in all this trouble,
639
00:30:25,790 --> 00:30:27,891
if you knew that he owed
a bunch of drug dealers,
640
00:30:27,992 --> 00:30:29,893
why didn't you tell US
last time we talked?
641
00:30:29,994 --> 00:30:32,062
And Sam said,
"hey, the guy's my best friend,
642
00:30:32,163 --> 00:30:33,530
I'm gonna protect him."
643
00:30:33,631 --> 00:30:37,034
But detectives aren't
buying Sam's story.
644
00:30:37,135 --> 00:30:38,168
At that point in time,
645
00:30:38,269 --> 00:30:40,671
I immediately think he's got
the strongest motive
646
00:30:40,772 --> 00:30:43,307
out of all our suspects
to kill John cherol.
647
00:30:44,843 --> 00:30:47,344
But our thought was how
is he making it 100 yards from
648
00:30:47,445 --> 00:30:49,613
the street down to the house,
shooting the shotgun,
649
00:30:49,714 --> 00:30:51,114
and then getting away in time?
650
00:30:51,216 --> 00:30:52,749
Because he...
He's got this limp.
651
00:30:54,118 --> 00:30:56,687
And that puts
Colette Collins right in
652
00:30:56,788 --> 00:30:59,056
investigative suspicion central.
653
00:31:00,391 --> 00:31:03,694
As this man is getting shot,
Colette is driving by
654
00:31:03,795 --> 00:31:05,896
his house... I'm sorry,
but it is not
655
00:31:05,997 --> 00:31:08,532
a galactic leap to put
those two things together.
656
00:31:10,068 --> 00:31:12,302
Detectives theorize
that Colette could have been
657
00:31:12,403 --> 00:31:14,571
the shooter and Sam
the mastermind
658
00:31:14,672 --> 00:31:17,407
and haul them both down to
the station for questioning.
659
00:31:18,676 --> 00:31:19,877
They start with Colette.
660
00:31:21,446 --> 00:31:24,781
Colette doesn't tell
the police about
661
00:31:24,883 --> 00:31:28,752
this home invasion that had
occurred just a month prior.
662
00:31:28,853 --> 00:31:31,722
In fact, when asked about
the gunshots in the walls
663
00:31:31,823 --> 00:31:32,990
in the house,
664
00:31:33,091 --> 00:31:36,960
she tells police that they
were there when they, in fact,
665
00:31:37,061 --> 00:31:38,862
moved into the house.
666
00:31:38,963 --> 00:31:41,565
When detectives push
Colette for information about
667
00:31:41,666 --> 00:31:44,401
Jonathan's murder, she clams up.
668
00:31:44,502 --> 00:31:46,103
Her immediate response to me
669
00:31:46,204 --> 00:31:47,671
after speaking with her was,
670
00:31:47,772 --> 00:31:49,940
"I want my lawyer.
I want my attorney."
671
00:31:50,041 --> 00:31:52,643
That tells me
she's hiding something.
672
00:31:52,744 --> 00:31:54,811
With Colette
stonewalling them,
673
00:31:54,913 --> 00:31:56,513
detectives lean on Sam.
674
00:31:56,614 --> 00:32:01,118
We asked him if he'd be
willing to give a DNA sample,
675
00:32:01,219 --> 00:32:03,053
and he very readily said,
676
00:32:03,154 --> 00:32:04,454
"absolutely, I've got
no problem with that,"
677
00:32:04,522 --> 00:32:06,823
and he gives US a DNA sample.
678
00:32:08,526 --> 00:32:11,695
But when police ask
Sam about any guns in his home,
679
00:32:11,796 --> 00:32:14,464
his entire attitude changes.
680
00:32:14,565 --> 00:32:16,667
Sam tells law enforcement that
681
00:32:16,768 --> 00:32:18,869
he does not have
any guns in the home,
682
00:32:18,970 --> 00:32:23,307
and the police then ask Sam
if they can search the home.
683
00:32:24,809 --> 00:32:28,245
And at that point, Sam asked
for a lawyer and says, "no."
684
00:32:30,181 --> 00:32:32,816
With Sam and Colette
refusing to talk,
685
00:32:32,917 --> 00:32:34,851
detectives have little
to go on to get
686
00:32:34,953 --> 00:32:36,286
a search warrant for their home.
687
00:32:37,622 --> 00:32:39,122
Search warrants
are among the most
688
00:32:39,223 --> 00:32:41,758
effective tools
in securing evidence
689
00:32:41,859 --> 00:32:44,394
and can make or break cases.
690
00:32:44,495 --> 00:32:46,863
So when you don't get a search
warrant, that sort of leaves
691
00:32:46,965 --> 00:32:48,465
investigators on their heels,
692
00:32:48,566 --> 00:32:51,001
and you have to sort
of improvise.
693
00:32:51,102 --> 00:32:53,904
One of the best substitutes in
lieu of a search warrant
694
00:32:54,005 --> 00:32:56,239
and which can actually get you
enough evidence to get
695
00:32:56,341 --> 00:32:57,774
the search warrant
is through good,
696
00:32:57,875 --> 00:32:59,943
dedicated surveillance.
697
00:33:00,044 --> 00:33:02,646
Detectives regroup
as the investigation
698
00:33:02,747 --> 00:33:05,915
into Jonathan's murder
hits a roadblock.
699
00:33:05,984 --> 00:33:08,585
This investigation
is pressure on
700
00:33:08,686 --> 00:33:10,787
myself and my team...
We were getting
701
00:33:10,888 --> 00:33:12,990
pressured by people
from the town.
702
00:33:13,091 --> 00:33:14,358
They want this case solved.
703
00:33:14,459 --> 00:33:15,726
They want to know that
there's not
704
00:33:15,827 --> 00:33:17,961
a killer running around town,
705
00:33:18,062 --> 00:33:21,832
and number one is pressure
from the family.
706
00:33:21,933 --> 00:33:23,967
We want to give closure
to that family as quickly
707
00:33:24,068 --> 00:33:26,269
as possible and catch
the person responsible
708
00:33:26,371 --> 00:33:28,271
for their son's death.
709
00:33:28,373 --> 00:33:31,942
But then detectives
finally catch a break.
710
00:33:32,043 --> 00:33:33,577
A patrolman
711
00:33:33,678 --> 00:33:37,581
had issued a traffic stop on
a vehicle driven by Sam Collins.
712
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,755
The officer ends up searching
713
00:33:44,856 --> 00:33:46,790
the vehicle,
because he smelled weed.
714
00:33:46,891 --> 00:33:49,259
He does find some drugs
in the car,
715
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:53,930
but in Sam's pocket
is a shotgun shell.
716
00:33:58,236 --> 00:34:01,004
Sam had already told US
that he had no weapons.
717
00:34:01,105 --> 00:34:04,107
So why is he walking around with
a shotgun shell in his pocket?
718
00:34:05,710 --> 00:34:07,711
A 12-Gauge shotgun shell,
719
00:34:07,812 --> 00:34:11,348
the same type of round
that was used to kill Jonathan.
720
00:34:13,217 --> 00:34:15,118
But that's not
the only discovery
721
00:34:15,219 --> 00:34:16,620
the officer makes.
722
00:34:16,721 --> 00:34:19,122
When Sam steps
out of the car,
723
00:34:19,223 --> 00:34:20,891
no cane, he has a limp,
724
00:34:20,992 --> 00:34:23,460
but it's not nearly as
pronounced as it was the day
725
00:34:23,561 --> 00:34:25,195
they came in and talked to US.
726
00:34:25,296 --> 00:34:26,930
And so now we're thinking,
well, he was puttin' on an act.
727
00:34:27,031 --> 00:34:30,367
And if he was putting on an act,
why was he putting on an act?
728
00:34:30,468 --> 00:34:31,701
If there was one kind of
729
00:34:31,803 --> 00:34:34,571
aha moment in the entire
investigation, that's it.
730
00:34:35,873 --> 00:34:37,641
Sam is booked on
drug possession
731
00:34:37,742 --> 00:34:40,277
charges and taken to
the county jail.
732
00:34:40,378 --> 00:34:42,412
The shotgun shell in
his pocket is enough for
733
00:34:42,513 --> 00:34:44,314
investigators to get
their search warrant
734
00:34:44,415 --> 00:34:46,349
for the Collins home.
735
00:34:46,451 --> 00:34:49,486
We find a metal safe, and
736
00:34:49,587 --> 00:34:51,955
the first thing that goes
through our mind is the shotgun
737
00:34:52,056 --> 00:34:54,758
that was used in this crime
scene is in that safe.
738
00:34:54,859 --> 00:34:57,661
We've got our case solved.
We've got the murder weapon.
739
00:34:57,762 --> 00:34:59,229
It's inside this safe.
740
00:34:59,330 --> 00:35:01,731
We asked Colette
to open the safe,
741
00:35:01,833 --> 00:35:04,434
and she says she doesn't
remember the code.
742
00:35:04,535 --> 00:35:06,436
We call a locksmith out.
743
00:35:06,537 --> 00:35:09,106
Takes him about an hour
to open up the safe.
744
00:35:10,408 --> 00:35:11,808
And when he opens it up,
745
00:35:11,909 --> 00:35:14,878
it's empty... we do not have
a murder weapon.
746
00:35:15,947 --> 00:35:17,614
Detectives get
a search warrant
747
00:35:17,715 --> 00:35:19,616
for Sam and Colette's
phone records.
748
00:35:20,918 --> 00:35:23,487
So we've got 12:53 A.M.,
749
00:35:23,588 --> 00:35:26,156
John is shot and killed
on his back porch.
750
00:35:26,257 --> 00:35:27,858
Then at 2:24 A.M.,
751
00:35:27,959 --> 00:35:30,260
we've got this text message
from a phone
752
00:35:30,361 --> 00:35:34,431
used by Sam Collins
to an unknown individual
753
00:35:34,532 --> 00:35:37,167
tellin' him that
he's returned his shotgun.
754
00:35:37,268 --> 00:35:42,606
And then we go on, and we see
a second text message
755
00:35:42,707 --> 00:35:45,542
that says, "you didn't see me,
and I didn't see you."
756
00:35:52,350 --> 00:35:55,318
Detectives are closing
in on Sam and Colette Collins
757
00:35:55,453 --> 00:35:58,822
as the prime suspects
in Jonathan cherol's murder
758
00:35:58,923 --> 00:36:00,323
and focus on tying them to
759
00:36:00,424 --> 00:36:03,093
the scene of the crime
through text messages
760
00:36:03,194 --> 00:36:04,594
Sam sent about a gun.
761
00:36:05,630 --> 00:36:07,164
This says
a couple of things.
762
00:36:07,265 --> 00:36:09,199
It puts Sam with a shotgun.
763
00:36:09,300 --> 00:36:10,333
Guy's killed with a shotgun.
764
00:36:10,434 --> 00:36:12,135
But the bigger thing it does
is it destroys
765
00:36:12,236 --> 00:36:14,538
his entire alibi, because,
remember, he had said,
766
00:36:14,639 --> 00:36:16,339
"I was at home.
My wife came home drunk.
767
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:17,674
"We fought,
and we went to sleep.
768
00:36:17,775 --> 00:36:19,509
I don't know what happened
to this guy."
769
00:36:19,610 --> 00:36:21,745
Well here by his own
cellphone record,
770
00:36:21,846 --> 00:36:24,614
he's out dropping a shotgun
off at a buddy's house.
771
00:36:26,484 --> 00:36:29,252
Who was this person?
Where is this shotgun?
772
00:36:29,353 --> 00:36:31,221
And we need it is
what's going through
773
00:36:31,322 --> 00:36:32,656
police's mind at this point.
774
00:36:33,724 --> 00:36:36,159
Detectives trace
the unknown number to a friend
775
00:36:36,260 --> 00:36:38,128
of Sam's by the name of William
776
00:36:38,229 --> 00:36:40,063
and go to
ask him some questions.
777
00:36:41,966 --> 00:36:44,768
William tells them
about his relationship
778
00:36:44,869 --> 00:36:46,836
with Sam and Colette Collins.
779
00:36:46,938 --> 00:36:48,338
He had known Sam for
780
00:36:48,439 --> 00:36:51,775
a number of years through
the construction business.
781
00:36:51,876 --> 00:36:55,745
Sam had asked William
to borrow a gun.
782
00:36:55,846 --> 00:36:59,950
He told William that he was
concerned for his safety.
783
00:37:00,051 --> 00:37:02,052
He thought somebody was
maybe trying
784
00:37:02,153 --> 00:37:05,322
to harm him or his family.
785
00:37:05,423 --> 00:37:07,257
William did not think
anything about it,
786
00:37:07,358 --> 00:37:12,963
so he let Sam borrow a shotgun
about a month or a few weeks
787
00:37:13,064 --> 00:37:14,965
prior to the murder
of John cherol.
788
00:37:16,467 --> 00:37:17,901
Williams says,
"you're welcome to take it.
789
00:37:19,103 --> 00:37:20,437
"I haven't shot it
since he came back.
790
00:37:20,538 --> 00:37:21,738
I just put it away."
791
00:37:21,839 --> 00:37:26,009
We got excited,
but we didn't get too excited.
792
00:37:26,110 --> 00:37:29,579
We submit the gun to
the laboratory,
793
00:37:30,815 --> 00:37:31,881
and the ballistics came back
794
00:37:31,983 --> 00:37:34,317
a match to the shells
found at the crime scene.
795
00:37:35,786 --> 00:37:37,954
This is the moment
for law enforcement
796
00:37:38,055 --> 00:37:39,589
where it all comes together.
797
00:37:41,025 --> 00:37:43,260
We then submit it for DNA,
798
00:37:43,361 --> 00:37:45,695
and the laboratory said,
799
00:37:45,796 --> 00:37:48,598
"the DNA matches Sam Collins."
800
00:37:48,666 --> 00:37:51,868
It's on the bus stock, on
the trigger, and on the handle.
801
00:37:53,070 --> 00:37:54,938
We all just screamed.
We were excited.
802
00:37:56,140 --> 00:37:58,575
Based on the physical
evidence that's there
803
00:37:58,676 --> 00:38:00,510
and the time line
from the video footage,
804
00:38:00,611 --> 00:38:03,780
the security cameras, we can put
Colette right in front of
805
00:38:03,881 --> 00:38:06,516
Jonathan's house at the time
of the murder.
806
00:38:08,219 --> 00:38:11,154
Detectives now have
solid proof that Sam had
807
00:38:11,255 --> 00:38:14,624
the means and the opportunity
to kill Jonathan.
808
00:38:14,725 --> 00:38:16,559
But what about the motive?
809
00:38:16,661 --> 00:38:20,330
John was interested
in obtaining drugs,
810
00:38:20,431 --> 00:38:23,333
and he knew that
811
00:38:23,434 --> 00:38:27,771
Sam had anxiety medication
and different pills,
812
00:38:27,872 --> 00:38:32,642
and he was in debt to Sam
for about $1,200,
813
00:38:32,743 --> 00:38:34,911
and that's why he was murdered.
814
00:38:36,981 --> 00:38:39,115
Detectives are now
able to piece together
815
00:38:39,216 --> 00:38:42,052
the final 24 hours
of Jonathan's life.
816
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,622
Around 10:53 that evening,
817
00:38:45,723 --> 00:38:49,492
Colette shows up
and talks to John,
818
00:38:49,593 --> 00:38:51,628
hangs out with John
until about 11:45.
819
00:38:52,963 --> 00:38:56,866
Gene shows up at about midnight,
once gene's there,
820
00:38:56,967 --> 00:38:59,469
him and John are hanging out,
having a good time.
821
00:39:00,538 --> 00:39:04,674
Also, around midnight,
Colette came home intoxicated.
822
00:39:04,775 --> 00:39:06,576
Sam asked her
where she had been,
823
00:39:06,677 --> 00:39:09,813
and she told him she had been
a John's house.
824
00:39:09,914 --> 00:39:11,414
Sam was angry.
825
00:39:11,515 --> 00:39:13,950
He thought that John had taken
money from him,
826
00:39:14,051 --> 00:39:16,353
that John was trying to
827
00:39:16,454 --> 00:39:19,189
kill him and that John had
something going on
828
00:39:19,290 --> 00:39:20,323
with his wife.
829
00:39:20,424 --> 00:39:22,992
And at that point,
he grabbed his gun
830
00:39:23,094 --> 00:39:26,696
and told his wife to drive him
to John cherol's house.
831
00:39:26,797 --> 00:39:29,265
Colette didn't know that
he was gonna kill Jonathan.
832
00:39:29,367 --> 00:39:32,569
He told her that he was
gonna scare Jonathan.
833
00:39:32,670 --> 00:39:33,803
You see them drive through
834
00:39:33,904 --> 00:39:36,673
the neighborhood,
pass John's around 12:43.
835
00:39:37,975 --> 00:39:42,512
12:53, Sam gets out of the car
to go through the woods
836
00:39:43,781 --> 00:39:47,083
to walk up and shoot John.
838
00:39:56,861 --> 00:40:02,332
At 12:54, this is when Colette
picks up Sam Collins.
839
00:40:02,433 --> 00:40:06,102
And he tells Colette,
"hey, I just shot Jonathan."
840
00:40:07,805 --> 00:40:09,639
Now this little piece of
information now
841
00:40:09,740 --> 00:40:13,042
implicates Colette as
an accessory after the fact.
842
00:40:13,144 --> 00:40:15,945
She's just, you know, innocent,
843
00:40:16,046 --> 00:40:16,980
never done anything wrong,
844
00:40:17,081 --> 00:40:19,949
but yet she helped
cover up a murder.
845
00:40:20,050 --> 00:40:22,018
Colette and Sam
are both charged
846
00:40:22,119 --> 00:40:23,887
with the murder
of Jonathan cherol,
847
00:40:23,988 --> 00:40:26,389
but based on
her husband's confession,
848
00:40:26,490 --> 00:40:28,958
Colette's conviction is
reduced to accessory after
849
00:40:29,059 --> 00:40:30,760
the fact, and she receives
850
00:40:30,861 --> 00:40:33,830
the maximum sentence
of 15 years.
851
00:40:33,898 --> 00:40:38,001
On October 18, 2017,
Sam Collins is convicted of
852
00:40:38,102 --> 00:40:41,037
first-degree murder
and sentenced to 50 years
853
00:40:41,138 --> 00:40:42,505
in prison.
854
00:40:42,606 --> 00:40:46,176
I guess the biggest thing
for me and what made
855
00:40:46,277 --> 00:40:49,679
me want to convict the two
of these people was their lies
856
00:40:49,780 --> 00:40:52,715
and manipulation really
got under my skin,
857
00:40:52,817 --> 00:40:56,686
and it's unfortunate that it
resulted in the death of
858
00:40:56,787 --> 00:40:58,588
Jonathan cherol,
who could have had
859
00:40:58,689 --> 00:41:00,690
a productive, successful life.
860
00:41:03,093 --> 00:41:04,260
Timelines were always important
861
00:41:04,361 --> 00:41:05,862
in a murder
investigation, period.
862
00:41:05,963 --> 00:41:08,865
You've got to put people and
players and suspect in place.
863
00:41:08,966 --> 00:41:11,100
In this case, there was
a lot more for cops to go on
864
00:41:11,202 --> 00:41:13,570
than just the word
and the time line verbally of
865
00:41:13,671 --> 00:41:15,839
suspects and witnesses.
866
00:41:15,940 --> 00:41:17,307
There was a digital time line.
867
00:41:17,408 --> 00:41:19,709
The cops were able to,
once they had the information
868
00:41:19,810 --> 00:41:22,912
put together, video cameras,
text messages,
869
00:41:23,013 --> 00:41:25,482
all those play into
the time line that narrowed in,
870
00:41:25,583 --> 00:41:27,617
honed in, destroyed the alibi
871
00:41:27,718 --> 00:41:30,386
of the two suspects and
ultimately cleared this case.
872
00:41:31,989 --> 00:41:33,256
The thing with John
is that all of
873
00:41:33,357 --> 00:41:35,391
his friends loved him.
874
00:41:35,493 --> 00:41:38,328
They were all very broken up
about John's death, you know,
875
00:41:38,429 --> 00:41:42,265
I mean... I mean, John made
an impact on people and,
876
00:41:42,366 --> 00:41:45,335
you know, he got addicted to
these anti-anxiety medication,
877
00:41:45,436 --> 00:41:47,203
and it spiraled out of control.
878
00:41:47,304 --> 00:41:50,507
But that doesn't mean
he's a bad person.
879
00:41:50,608 --> 00:41:53,676
I'd been in investigations
for eight years,
880
00:41:53,777 --> 00:41:57,947
and it was by far
the best feeling
881
00:41:58,048 --> 00:42:00,283
in the world to solve this case.
882
00:42:00,384 --> 00:42:03,253
I've dealt with some really
bad cases,
883
00:42:03,354 --> 00:42:06,823
but for some reason, this one
touched home the most,
884
00:42:06,924 --> 00:42:09,192
because it happened
in the community I live in,
885
00:42:09,293 --> 00:42:10,860
it happened in
the community I serve,
886
00:42:10,961 --> 00:42:12,862
and it doesn't happen
that often.
887
00:42:12,963 --> 00:42:17,333
And there was tremendous
pressure on my entire staff,
888
00:42:17,434 --> 00:42:20,537
and every single one of
my investigators Rose up to
889
00:42:20,638 --> 00:42:23,139
the occasion,
and we were able to
890
00:42:23,240 --> 00:42:25,708
give a grieving family
some closure,
891
00:42:25,809 --> 00:42:29,445
and that was the greatest
reward we could have had.
71281
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