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This was definitely
a frenzy, this...
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Essentially,
the person went berserk.
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A vicious slaying.
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People were terrified.
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People need a reason
that bad things happen.
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A dark mystery
with multiple suspects.
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They were sisters, but there was
no sisterly love.
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I'm just thinking, "what do
I do if he freaks out?"
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There was a lot of hate,
there was a lot of discontent
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within that family circle.
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The truth will be revealed.
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What stood out to me
is this crime scene is...
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There was no rhyme or reason,
it just didn't make sense.
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If Keith did this,
he needs to pay for it.
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Every day in North America,
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dozens of people are murdered.
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The key to solving
the toughest of these homicides
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lies in the final 24 hours
of the victim's life.
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To crack the case,
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detectives must reconstruct
that critical timeline,
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the minutes and hours
containing evidence
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that can help unlock the mystery
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and catch the killer.
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On the banks of
the St. Joseph river
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sits niles, Michigan,
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a community brimming
with civic pride.
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So niles is...
It's a small town, um,
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everybody knows everybody.
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It's the kind of community
where you could meet
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a stranger, and you both
know the same person.
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And fortunately, we don't have
a lot of violent crime here.
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If crime happens,
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people are more than willing
to help you.
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People respect police.
Yes, sir. No, sir.
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Here, people get involved.
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But on one cold
February afternoon,
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something so shocking happens,
no one knows what to do.
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We received a 911 call
from a father who says
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that his son
and his daughter-in-law
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are deceased...
He thinks it's a homicide.
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I immediately called one of
the troopers on a cellphone.
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I actually said, "you need
to get over here."
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The victims are
Carolyn and John tarwacki,
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two beloved musicians who live
with their nephew, kelan.
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John and Carolyn
met late in life.
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They met online.
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They were just
in a great place in
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their life, because they had
found each other,
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they were happily married.
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Carolyn was a good soul,
as I put it.
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She used to pick up,
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old music instruments,
and she would repair them
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and try to help kids who
couldn't afford an instrument.
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And John was a Navy veteran.
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Hard workers, both of them.
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Tasked with
investigating their deaths,
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are detectives fabian Suarez
of the Michigan state police
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and local detective
Kristen daly,
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who has lived in this
community for 20 years.
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When we arrived there,
that's when the lightbulb went
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off for me that, these...
These people that I know.
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My sister-in-law was very
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good friends with Carolyn
in high school,
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so there was an immediate
connection there,
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and I felt a lot
more responsibility.
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Detectives begin
analyzing the crime scene,
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trying to imagine what
might have taken place.
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We walk into the foyer
area of the house.
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Obviously,
we take a quick moment,
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we stand, we scan.
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I can see John tarwacki.
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He's got stab wounds
on his back.
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We walk over to the right,
there's a living room.
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We look in there,
and we see Carolyn.
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We look to the left,
there's a bathroom there.
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One of the first things
I noticed was there's a towel
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on the floor
with hair clippings,
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and there's a razor on
the sink, so to me,
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that tells me he was
shaving his head.
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My gut feeling is the killer
is confronted by John.
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He takes the first shot.
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He hits John right in the jaw,
he shoots again,
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John throws up his arm,
and then he turns,
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and he...
Like he's trying to escape
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and he collapses right there.
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So now John is
out of the picture.
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Now the killer can take his...
Focus his attention on Carolyn.
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At the time that
you first looked at her,
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it was almost hard to tell
exactly what had happened
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to her...
She had been badly beaten.
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Being beaten is usually very,
um, very immediate.
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It usually dictates that
that's somebody that you know
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really well and you're really,
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really angry at when you see
that level of injury and that
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level of violence
visited upon somebody.
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And later, it was determined
that she was both stabbed
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and shot,
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and that's an extreme
level of violence
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against the nicest person that
you would... literally would
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ever meet,
made absolutely no sense.
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To find out
who ruthlessly killed
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this loving couple,
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police must reconstruct
the final 24 hours
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of the tarwackis' lives.
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The timeline's important in
every homicide case.
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You have to know where all
your players are in any
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given moment
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to create... either to create
an alibi or to break
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an alibi, to set your timeline
so you can discover,
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when was their vulnerability?
When did the murder occur?
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Investigators start building
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John and Carolyn's timeline
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by interviewing the person
who found them,
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John's father.
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When I first met
John tarwacki, sr.,
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obviously her was
very distraught.
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How else could you be?
You just walked in,
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you find your son and your
daughter-in-law murdered.
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He said John and Carolyn had
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an 8 A.M. meeting
at the high school.
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They never showed up.
This is not like Carolyn.
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She will not miss work.
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She will not miss appointments,
anything like that.
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So the school called
quinlan & fabish,
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which is where they worked,
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and said Carolyn
never showed up.
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Um, what happened?
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John's sister worked for
the company, too, so they called
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John's father like, "can you go
check and see what's going on?"
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He, in turn, said
he tried calling the house.
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He tried calling the cellphones,
and nothing happened.
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So he decided to get in the car
and go knock on the door.
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Hoping to flesh out
the tarwackis' timeline further,
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detectives reach out to
Carolyn's mother, Sharon.
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Sharon tells me
that she talked with
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Carolyn on the phone
that morning.
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She was having some issues
with her computer,
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so she was just venting some
frustration to her mom.
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Just a normal touching base
with your mom in the morning.
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Sharon said there was nothing
about that phone call
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that made her...
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Suspicious.
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Detectives pull
Sharon's cellphone records
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and verify that the call
started at 6:10 A.M.
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And lasted exactly 12 minutes.
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The last time she talks
to her mother is 6:22,
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um, says goodbye,
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not realizing, either one,
that it's the last time.
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But what happened
after she hung up
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with her mother
is still a mystery.
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Knowing that Carolyn
was on her computer
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that morning gives them
something to work with.
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Investigators dig
into her laptop logs.
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Carolyn logged onto
the computer at 6:43 A.M.,
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and then 7:03, the computer
goes dormant, meaning that
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there's no longer any
interaction, like,
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with the keyboard.
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Every time you hit
a key on any device,
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there is a record of that.
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And when we see habitual use
and ongoing keystrokes and then
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a sudden stoppage,
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that stoppage point serves as
a great start for what happened
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next... were they interrupted,
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were they pulled away from
the computer,
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or were they actually murdered
at that particular time?
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Based on when
the computer goes dormant,
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Carolyn and John could have
been killed any time between
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7:03 A.M.
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And just before their
bodies were found at 12:45 P.M.
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The bodies are sent off
for autopsy,
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and the forensics team starts
scouring the house for
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potential murder weapons.
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We're looking for a knife,
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and we're looking for a gun
at that point.
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We don't know if he used one of
kitchen knives.
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So we took all the knives
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that looked like they could have
been used for the murders,
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and we sent those to
the medical examiner.
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As they continue
to work their way
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through the crime scene,
investigators struggle
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to come up with a rational
theory for the murders.
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What stood out to me
is this crime scene
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is there was no rhyme or reason.
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There's no sign of
any forced entry whatsoever.
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There were valuables
laying around.
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You could think it was
a breaking and entering,
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someone had gone in
to steal things,
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but there was computers,
there were laptops, iPads,
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cash money laying around.
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There was even prescription
drugs in the medicine cabinet.
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It's not until they
make their way to the back of
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the house that the first clue
into the identity of the killer
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reveals itself.
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From where we're standing,
I can hear a dog going crazy,
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and it turns out this is
wrigley, a 200-pound master.
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The tarwackis had
a large dog.
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It was ginormous, and it was
on the back porch area.
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And so in their kitchen,
you turned,
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and you could either go down
in the basement,
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or you can go out
into a back porch.
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Once we get
to the back door,
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that's when we see footprints.
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One set of footprints coming in.
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One set of footprints
going... coming out.
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The footprints showed
that somebody had
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entered and exited
through the back door,
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um, which was unusual,
because they would
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have had to get past that dog,
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and that dog was incredibly
protective of Carolyn.
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So normally, if you are
a stranger, and you open
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someone's back porch door
and you are
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greeted by a large mastiff,
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you turn around and walk away.
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You don't continue
to enter the home.
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And if it's a stranger, why is
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the level of violence on
Carolyn so great?
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That told US that it was
somebody that they knew.
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Now, they're hoping
this path will
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lead them
to the killer's doorstep.
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You have to work fast.
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You gotta work furiously,
because if you did it once
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and you did it twice,
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he can definitely do it again.
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Investigators believe
that the rage-fueled homicide of
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Carolyn and John tarwacki
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was an intentional act
committed by someone
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who knew them.
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A crime like this
could be really devastating
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for a small community.
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Word would get out, and it
would likely take over
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the town within a few hours...
There would be
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a sense of, "we're all
in danger... who's next?"
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The only piece of hard
evidence investigators have
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from the crime scene
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is a trail of footprints
at the back of the house.
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Well, we're pretty sure
there's one killer.
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There's only one set
of footprints.
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The stride on the way in was
short, like a normal walking
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stride, and the straight on
the way out was wider,
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like a running stride.
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It tells US that we know
when he approached the house,
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he was calm.
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And when you left the house,
he was agitated
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and fleeing, because he had
just committed the murders.
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Once we get photographs,
they are able to get US
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a good shoe size and a very
good tread pattern.
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We could actually look
at the picture
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and see 12
in the shoe impression,
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so we knew it was
a size 12 shoe.
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And we were able to confirm
it was to a route 66 shoe
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that was put out by
K-Mart but discontinued in 2008.
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So this tells me this person
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is wearing old shoes
that were cheap,
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basically, it's not
a person that has
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a lot of money,
that's spending a lot of money.
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Using the footprints,
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detectives follow
the killer's path.
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There's the easement.
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Nobody really knows... unless
you're from that area,
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you're not gonna know that
easement's there.
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It's kind of like a power line
easement, so those footprints,
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we were able to follow 'em
away from the house towards
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what's yankee street.
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So we do a neighborhood canvass.
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It's just as it's called.
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We go to every door
within a mile
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north, west, south, east,
every direction,
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we knock on the doors.
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One of
the apartments investigators
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canvass belongs to Sherry lintz.
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When they knock on her door,
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they find her son, Keith,
there, as well.
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Keith is known to US...
He's had many,
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many problems with
law enforcement.
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We know the lintz family.
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They just... a lot of...
A lot of the family members
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have been... unfortunately,
been on the wrong side of law.
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Detective Suarez
consults local detective daly
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on whether or not she thinks
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Keith could be
a person of interest.
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I'd heard the name,
I knew that he was
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in trouble and had been
in trouble and had
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a criminal history,
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but I wasn't familiar with him,
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like, being connected to
the tarwackis at all.
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Investigators question Keith
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about whether he knew
the tarwackis
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and his whereabouts that
morning when they were killed.
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Keith lintz says he may have
walked past the residence
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and may have waved
at John tarwacki,
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but he says "no,
he doesn't know 'em."
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And Sherry lintz, she's able to
confirm to US
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that Keith was at the home
at 8 A.M.
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She said
she woke up to go to work
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and Keith was asleep
on the couch.
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She also is able to alibi him,
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saying that she actually
took Keith the work
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on the morning of the homicides.
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Satisfied with
the lintzes'' accounting of
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their whereabouts,
police move on,
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and it pays off
almost right away.
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Later on that morning,
we found a neighbor
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who said, "yep,
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"I was outside smoking
a cigarette, starting my car up,
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and that's when I see a young
man running down the alleyway."
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She is exact, she is positive
that that was,
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I believe, at 7:45 A.M.
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Those footprints were right
by her house, maybe...
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30 feet from... from her deck.
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She told US, she goes,
"you never see anybody
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"going through there
at this time of the morning.
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Nobody ever sees there,"
and that's what caught
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her attention.
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This new information
is critical.
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Assuming the running man
is the killer,
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investigators are now able to
pinpoint when the tarwackis
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were murdered.
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So as best we can figure,
it happened some time
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from the time when Carolyn's
computer goes dormant
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to 7:45,
so it's almost a... like
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a 40-minute window
that this murder
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could have occurred in.
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It's an unusual time of day
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for a double homicide
to take place.
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It was very brazen...
Nobody commits a homicide
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when everybody is getting
ready to go to work.
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You're taking the chance
of being seen.
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There's too many eyes out,
too many people are awake.
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Most homicides are gonna involve
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the time of darkness
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when not many people around
or you cannot be seen.
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The eyewitness
didn't get a good look
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at the man's face,
but she says he was tall.
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She said that she saw
a white male,
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right around six feet tall,
hard to pin down his age,
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between 20 and 30 years old,
she thought,
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wearing a dark...
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Whether it was a jacket
or a hoodie,
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but he had a hood up,
and he was running,
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um,
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past her house out towards
the main road.
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The description
immediately rings a bell
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for detective daly.
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It sounds like
it could be kelan,
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Carolyn and John's teenage
nephew, who has been
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living with them
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I was familiar with kelan,
um, because his...
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His younger brother
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had been on the same t-ball
team with my son.
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So at that point,
fabian's like, "well,
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you can be the one to go talk
to him at the school, then."
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Kelan is the son
of Carolyn's sister, Katie,
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and her husband, David.
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Kelan is kind of
a combative individual.
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One of the reasons he was
living with John and Carolyn
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was because he didn't get along
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with David,
and that they had fought
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quite a bit.
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The fights consisted of a lot
of yelling and screaming,
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so I'm just thinking, you know,
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what do I do if
he freaks out, what I do
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if he's actually the suspect
and he knows, like,
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00:18:29,575 --> 00:18:31,709
immediately why I'm there?
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We know that kelan
lives at the house.
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He automatically
becomes our first suspect,
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because he was probably
the last people
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that saw John and Carolyn alive.
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So I had asked Kristen daly
to conduct the interview,
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because I wanted
that female perspective
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to talk to him,
probably get more information.
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We have to determine
as quickly as possible,
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is he involved?
Did he commit the crime?
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Does he know
who committed the crime?
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When I got to the school,
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and they brought him
out of his classroom,
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um, he looked confused.
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He knew who I was,
but he couldn't really
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00:19:09,281 --> 00:19:10,481
figure out why I was there.
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Kelan's sitting there,
and he's looking at US.
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I could just see the conflicting
play of emotion on his face.
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And then fabian tells him
exactly why we were there.
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He said,
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"John and Carolyn, um,
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are dead,
and we need to talk to you."
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And kelan completely
melted down.
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He just completely had
a breakdown right there.
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I said, "I need you to go
through your morning.
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"I need to tell me
exactly what you did.
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"You need to tell me exactly,
as best
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00:19:47,186 --> 00:19:48,986
you can remember,
what time things happened."
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00:19:51,290 --> 00:19:52,957
He told me that
his aunt Carolyn woke
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00:19:53,058 --> 00:19:55,092
him up in the morning,
shortly after six.
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00:19:56,962 --> 00:19:59,497
He leaves the house
about 6:30 in the morning,
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and his grandmother lives
two doors down
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00:20:02,034 --> 00:20:03,968
from John and Carolyn.
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00:20:05,370 --> 00:20:08,039
So at 6:35, he goes to
his grandmother's,
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00:20:09,074 --> 00:20:11,609
talks to her really quick,
he grabs some pop
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00:20:11,710 --> 00:20:14,145
and some beef jerky,
he's there for maybe
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00:20:14,246 --> 00:20:16,113
not even 10 minutes,
if that long,
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00:20:16,215 --> 00:20:18,983
because he catches the bus,
then, at 6:45.
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00:20:20,752 --> 00:20:22,954
Detective daly
checks kelan's alibi
402
00:20:23,088 --> 00:20:24,388
with his grandmother, Sharon.
403
00:20:27,025 --> 00:20:29,227
Sharon says she gets off
the phone with Carolyn
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00:20:29,328 --> 00:20:31,529
at 6:22,
kelan shows up
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00:20:31,630 --> 00:20:35,466
within 5, 10 minutes
of that phone conversation to
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00:20:35,567 --> 00:20:37,935
Sharon's home... kelan is calm.
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00:20:38,036 --> 00:20:41,005
He is clean, so he wouldn't
have had time to commit
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00:20:41,106 --> 00:20:42,106
those murders,
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00:20:42,140 --> 00:20:43,874
and he would have been
a mess, physically.
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00:20:45,444 --> 00:20:46,877
We follow up
with the school
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00:20:46,979 --> 00:20:49,914
with the times of buses there,
cameras in the school.
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We know he walked
into the school.
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00:20:51,683 --> 00:20:53,918
We talked to the teachers,
we know he walked into
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the classroom.
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00:20:55,654 --> 00:20:58,522
He had a backpack, and
there was an empty pop bottle,
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00:20:58,624 --> 00:21:00,458
like, in the outside of
his backpack and also
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00:21:00,559 --> 00:21:01,826
a bag of jerky,
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00:21:01,927 --> 00:21:03,828
so that corroborated his story.
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00:21:06,531 --> 00:21:08,966
Also, there was not
a good motive for kelan.
420
00:21:10,402 --> 00:21:13,137
He was in a really good place.
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00:21:13,238 --> 00:21:14,672
John and Carolyn lost
their lives,
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00:21:14,773 --> 00:21:16,540
but kelan lost his future.
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00:21:18,076 --> 00:21:20,177
With kelan's
whereabouts verified
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from 6:22 A.M. to 3:30 P.M.,
detectives conclude
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00:21:25,217 --> 00:21:27,018
he couldn't have killed
the tarwackis.
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00:21:29,288 --> 00:21:32,123
According to kelan, he hated
living with his mother
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00:21:32,224 --> 00:21:34,925
and stepfather and wanted
to stay with Carolyn
428
00:21:35,027 --> 00:21:36,827
and John permanently.
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00:21:36,895 --> 00:21:39,063
Once kelan moved
out of the home,
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00:21:39,164 --> 00:21:41,232
his grades picked up,
and he really liked it.
431
00:21:41,333 --> 00:21:44,001
Obviously, there was
no domestic problems.
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00:21:44,102 --> 00:21:46,147
There was no fighting, anything
like that in the house.
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00:21:46,171 --> 00:21:47,471
He really liked living there.
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00:21:50,442 --> 00:21:52,610
Detectives then
discover that the tarwackis
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00:21:52,711 --> 00:21:54,512
had filed
for legal guardianship,
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00:21:54,613 --> 00:21:56,380
so kelan wouldn't have to return
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00:21:56,481 --> 00:21:57,548
to his parents' home.
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00:21:59,484 --> 00:22:02,219
In fact, the attorney
had served the papers
439
00:22:02,321 --> 00:22:04,055
to kelan's mother, Katie,
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00:22:04,156 --> 00:22:06,824
just two days before
the murders took place.
441
00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,995
I knew Katie, so I...
I was already familiar
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00:22:11,096 --> 00:22:12,196
with her temperament.
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00:22:12,297 --> 00:22:14,231
She, um, doesn't care
444
00:22:14,333 --> 00:22:15,743
what you think about her,
and she will
445
00:22:15,767 --> 00:22:17,368
tell you exactly
what's on her mind.
446
00:22:19,071 --> 00:22:21,706
She can come across as very
aggressive, very combative.
447
00:22:23,041 --> 00:22:26,177
And Katie did not want
Carolyn to have guardianship,
448
00:22:26,278 --> 00:22:27,878
and she was angry,
449
00:22:27,979 --> 00:22:30,848
and knowing Katie's
personality and knowing that
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00:22:30,949 --> 00:22:32,216
she could be pretty aggressive,
451
00:22:32,317 --> 00:22:35,353
and just seeing the level of
violence visited on Carolyn,
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00:22:35,454 --> 00:22:37,688
your mind goes to that first
person who's angry.
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00:22:40,092 --> 00:22:42,526
And that circled back to Katie.
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00:22:55,006 --> 00:22:57,575
The investigation into
the brutal double homicide
455
00:22:57,676 --> 00:22:59,343
of Carolyn and John tarwacki
456
00:22:59,444 --> 00:23:02,646
is zeroing in
on Carolyn's sister, Katie.
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00:23:03,815 --> 00:23:06,117
When we interview Katie,
basically what she tells US,
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00:23:06,218 --> 00:23:09,420
growing up, Carolyn was
treated better than she was.
459
00:23:09,521 --> 00:23:12,323
They were sisters,
but there was no sisterly love.
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00:23:13,525 --> 00:23:15,126
Katie despised Carolyn.
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00:23:16,228 --> 00:23:18,896
She tells US,
"hey, I didn't kill my sister,
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00:23:18,997 --> 00:23:20,131
but I'm not gonna miss her."
463
00:23:21,767 --> 00:23:22,900
She told me,
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00:23:23,001 --> 00:23:25,236
"I've always believed that
Carolyn was trying to take
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00:23:25,337 --> 00:23:27,705
my son because she didn't
have kids of her own."
466
00:23:27,806 --> 00:23:29,440
And she really believed this.
467
00:23:29,541 --> 00:23:31,575
So obviously,
this raises a flag.
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00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:36,800
It almost seemed like
she didn't care.
469
00:23:37,449 --> 00:23:38,516
A normal person,
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you tell them that their
brother or sister has died,
471
00:23:41,186 --> 00:23:43,621
it doesn't matter if
they fought 20 minutes ago,
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00:23:43,722 --> 00:23:44,755
they're devastated.
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00:23:44,856 --> 00:23:46,816
This is their sibling.
This is somebody they love.
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00:23:47,859 --> 00:23:49,693
And she didn't act
like your normal...
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00:23:51,062 --> 00:23:53,931
Sibling to a victim
of a horrendous crime.
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00:23:54,032 --> 00:23:55,099
She was a little detached.
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00:23:58,170 --> 00:24:00,938
When people
don't react as expected
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00:24:01,039 --> 00:24:03,040
in a police interview,
it immediately throws up
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00:24:03,141 --> 00:24:05,443
a red flag...
Why are they acting this way?
480
00:24:05,544 --> 00:24:07,878
Are they potentially
involved in this crime?
481
00:24:07,979 --> 00:24:11,315
Um, do they dislike,
you know,
482
00:24:11,416 --> 00:24:14,318
a person enough
to commit an act of violence?
483
00:24:16,154 --> 00:24:18,122
And in this case,
you're wondering, you know,
484
00:24:18,256 --> 00:24:21,225
could this sister have engaged
in something violent
485
00:24:21,326 --> 00:24:23,594
towards this couple?
486
00:24:24,896 --> 00:24:27,898
But some things just
don't add up with this theory.
487
00:24:27,999 --> 00:24:30,935
The eyewitness said
she saw a man between 20
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00:24:31,036 --> 00:24:33,504
and 30 years old fleeing
the scene,
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00:24:33,605 --> 00:24:35,239
not a 43-year-old woman,
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00:24:36,508 --> 00:24:39,910
and she said this happened
at 7:45 A.M.
491
00:24:41,112 --> 00:24:44,482
Katie actually lived pretty
much next door to me.
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00:24:44,583 --> 00:24:47,451
She is a bus driver
for this same school district,
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00:24:47,552 --> 00:24:51,422
and she drove the bus
past my house every morning.
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00:24:52,557 --> 00:24:55,226
So we were able to confirm with
the bus garage that yes,
495
00:24:55,327 --> 00:24:56,327
Katie showed up to work,
496
00:24:56,394 --> 00:24:58,529
she came on time, and she was
driving her bus,
497
00:24:58,630 --> 00:25:00,965
and there just wasn't time
during a bus route for
498
00:25:01,066 --> 00:25:02,946
her to stop of the house
and commit this murder.
499
00:25:04,302 --> 00:25:06,504
Detectives consider
a different theory.
500
00:25:07,706 --> 00:25:10,474
I know that she didn't
commit this... the homicide,
501
00:25:10,575 --> 00:25:13,177
but maybe the husband
decided to do it.
502
00:25:16,047 --> 00:25:17,681
Through police reports,
503
00:25:17,782 --> 00:25:21,018
we know that David drank,
we believe he had
504
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:22,119
a drinking problem.
505
00:25:24,923 --> 00:25:27,291
We know that there's a lot of,
you know,
506
00:25:27,392 --> 00:25:29,593
domestic violence in that home.
507
00:25:29,694 --> 00:25:30,861
There was a lot of hate.
508
00:25:30,962 --> 00:25:33,197
There was a lot of discontent
within that family circle.
509
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:36,934
So if you want
to keep your wife happy,
510
00:25:37,035 --> 00:25:39,003
you want to keep
your family happy,
511
00:25:39,104 --> 00:25:40,904
you're gonna want to do
something to help her.
512
00:25:44,376 --> 00:25:48,012
David was quiet to Katie's,
you know, more bombastic,
513
00:25:48,113 --> 00:25:51,649
volatile personality,
but we had...
514
00:25:51,750 --> 00:25:54,084
Nobody had any doubt that
if she'd asked him to do this,
515
00:25:54,185 --> 00:25:55,625
that he would have
done that for her.
516
00:25:56,888 --> 00:25:59,423
With David now in
their cross hairs,
517
00:25:59,524 --> 00:26:02,359
detectives put the timeline
to the test to determine
518
00:26:02,460 --> 00:26:04,962
where he was when
the tarwackis were killed.
519
00:26:06,164 --> 00:26:09,166
I believe, from
the timeline we built up,
520
00:26:09,267 --> 00:26:11,268
we know that the morning
of the homicides,
521
00:26:11,369 --> 00:26:14,705
David had to take the kids
to the babysitters.
522
00:26:14,806 --> 00:26:17,775
He says he was
there at 7:30 A.M.
523
00:26:17,876 --> 00:26:19,710
Dropping the kids off.
524
00:26:19,811 --> 00:26:21,178
We go to the babysitter,
525
00:26:21,246 --> 00:26:23,981
and we were able to
substantiate his whereabouts.
526
00:26:25,150 --> 00:26:27,451
He works in south bend,
527
00:26:27,552 --> 00:26:32,323
so it takes him almost
20 minutes to get to work.
528
00:26:32,424 --> 00:26:34,525
He started work at 8 A.M.
529
00:26:34,626 --> 00:26:36,260
We follow up on his work.
530
00:26:36,361 --> 00:26:39,296
We know that at that work, they
actually have palm scanners
531
00:26:39,397 --> 00:26:41,165
to get into the building.
532
00:26:41,266 --> 00:26:43,534
We know that he put his palm
there, that he scanned
533
00:26:43,635 --> 00:26:45,536
his palm, and we know
that he was at work,
534
00:26:52,010 --> 00:26:53,290
So there was no way
that he would
535
00:26:53,378 --> 00:26:55,058
have been the killer,
that he was involved.
536
00:26:57,616 --> 00:26:59,850
Having eliminated
all three of the people
537
00:26:59,951 --> 00:27:02,753
closest to the tarwackis
from the suspect pool,
538
00:27:02,854 --> 00:27:04,054
detectives are stumped.
539
00:27:05,824 --> 00:27:08,492
There are so many things
about this case that...
540
00:27:08,593 --> 00:27:09,960
That didn't flow
541
00:27:10,061 --> 00:27:12,029
from a normal
investigative standpoint.
542
00:27:12,130 --> 00:27:14,498
We were still really focused,
at their point, on
543
00:27:14,599 --> 00:27:15,966
this is somebody that they knew,
544
00:27:16,067 --> 00:27:18,402
somebody that was angry
with them,
545
00:27:18,536 --> 00:27:21,305
and we had talked to everybody
that we knew that
546
00:27:21,406 --> 00:27:25,042
knew John and Carolyn, um,
we talked to John's,
547
00:27:25,143 --> 00:27:26,243
you know, ex-wives.
548
00:27:26,344 --> 00:27:29,847
We dug deep into his past
trying to find a motive,
549
00:27:29,948 --> 00:27:31,228
and just nothing
was panning out.
550
00:27:31,316 --> 00:27:33,450
Everything was
coming up a dead end.
551
00:27:33,551 --> 00:27:35,619
Investigators are
forced to consider
552
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,154
whether the murders
may have been
553
00:27:37,255 --> 00:27:40,224
more random than
they first appeared.
554
00:27:40,325 --> 00:27:42,159
People were terrified.
555
00:27:42,260 --> 00:27:44,528
People need a reason
that bad things happen.
556
00:27:44,629 --> 00:27:47,464
When there's no reason that
something bad has happened,
557
00:27:47,565 --> 00:27:49,867
then everybody thinks...
558
00:27:49,968 --> 00:27:51,802
Then that can be me,
559
00:27:51,903 --> 00:27:53,437
and that freaks people out,
obviously.
560
00:27:53,538 --> 00:27:55,673
We all like to believe
that if we just do
561
00:27:55,774 --> 00:27:57,051
the right thing
at the right time,
562
00:27:57,075 --> 00:27:57,975
then we're all safe.
563
00:27:58,076 --> 00:28:00,344
But that's not clearly
how the world works.
564
00:28:03,214 --> 00:28:04,525
That was the first time
that I ever
565
00:28:04,549 --> 00:28:06,550
had trouble sleeping
after a case.
566
00:28:10,088 --> 00:28:11,255
It was awful.
567
00:28:11,356 --> 00:28:13,691
It was awful,
because it was unsolved,
568
00:28:13,792 --> 00:28:15,559
and...
569
00:28:15,660 --> 00:28:18,996
Just no... no idea
at that point.
570
00:28:19,097 --> 00:28:20,474
And the other thing
that haunts you is
571
00:28:20,498 --> 00:28:22,199
did you miss something?
572
00:28:22,300 --> 00:28:24,401
As it turns out,
they did.
573
00:28:26,271 --> 00:28:29,339
I received a call from
the mother, Sharon mcknight,
574
00:28:29,441 --> 00:28:32,109
who was cleaning out
the house to sell.
575
00:28:32,243 --> 00:28:34,244
She is cleaning out
the refrigerator,
576
00:28:34,345 --> 00:28:36,680
thawing out the freezer,
and as she's removing items,
577
00:28:36,781 --> 00:28:39,783
she says she found...
She found a bloody knife.
578
00:28:41,586 --> 00:28:44,755
I was actually here at work...
I immediately respond to
579
00:28:44,856 --> 00:28:47,324
the location along with
one of my troopers.
580
00:28:47,425 --> 00:28:49,727
Sure enough, there's a bloody
knife in the freezer.
581
00:29:02,273 --> 00:29:04,708
Investigators have
just discovered that they missed
582
00:29:04,809 --> 00:29:06,009
a key piece of evidence
583
00:29:06,111 --> 00:29:08,645
while processing the murder
scene of Carolyn
584
00:29:08,747 --> 00:29:11,315
and John tarwacki...
A bloody knife.
585
00:29:12,917 --> 00:29:16,253
The sickness feeling that goes
over use like, "wow,
586
00:29:16,354 --> 00:29:17,521
how did we miss it?"
587
00:29:17,655 --> 00:29:20,390
We missed it... I mean,
I'm the lead investigator.
588
00:29:20,492 --> 00:29:23,794
I have to take responsibility
for everything that goes wrong.
589
00:29:23,895 --> 00:29:26,096
So, yeah, it's my responsibly
590
00:29:26,197 --> 00:29:27,308
to make sure everything
was done.
591
00:29:27,332 --> 00:29:28,599
It wasn't done properly.
592
00:29:29,768 --> 00:29:31,969
The knife is processed,
DNA shows that
593
00:29:32,070 --> 00:29:35,272
it is Carolyn and it is
John's blood on the knife,
594
00:29:35,373 --> 00:29:37,141
but unfortunately,
there is no third party.
595
00:29:37,242 --> 00:29:39,810
We were hoping maybe to find
DNA from our suspect
596
00:29:39,911 --> 00:29:41,779
that could be identified,
but there was not.
597
00:29:43,014 --> 00:29:45,082
Having hit yet
another roadblock,
598
00:29:45,183 --> 00:29:46,416
the case goes cold.
599
00:29:47,452 --> 00:29:50,254
Then, 2.5 years later,
detective Suarez receives
600
00:29:50,355 --> 00:29:54,124
a call that breathes new life
into the investigation.
601
00:29:54,225 --> 00:29:57,594
Patricia wilds
was a local young lady.
602
00:29:57,695 --> 00:30:00,998
She had a run-in with
a local police officer.
603
00:30:01,099 --> 00:30:02,859
She was stopped, she was
arrested, I believe,
604
00:30:02,901 --> 00:30:04,635
for driving with
a license suspended.
605
00:30:05,737 --> 00:30:07,504
When they brought her in
and they booked her,
606
00:30:07,605 --> 00:30:08,839
she told 'em,
607
00:30:08,940 --> 00:30:11,508
"I'd like to talk to
the detective who's in charge of
608
00:30:11,609 --> 00:30:13,443
"the tarwacki homicide,
because I think
609
00:30:13,545 --> 00:30:15,245
I have information
as to who killed them."
610
00:30:17,315 --> 00:30:20,350
This officer obviously
calls me right away home.
611
00:30:20,451 --> 00:30:22,196
I believe it was three in
the morning or something
612
00:30:22,220 --> 00:30:24,621
like that, so I obviously
come to work right away.
613
00:30:26,724 --> 00:30:29,226
I start interviewing
Patricia wilds, and she
614
00:30:29,327 --> 00:30:31,161
brings up the name
of Keith lintz...
615
00:30:31,262 --> 00:30:33,897
Keith lintz, who we had
talked to initially
616
00:30:33,998 --> 00:30:35,532
but was not on the radar.
617
00:30:39,404 --> 00:30:41,839
26-year-old
Keith lintz with someone
618
00:30:41,940 --> 00:30:45,509
they interviewed on the very
first day of the investigation.
619
00:30:45,610 --> 00:30:46,910
His mother, Sherry, told them
620
00:30:47,011 --> 00:30:49,680
Keith was at home with her
at the time of the murder,
621
00:30:49,781 --> 00:30:52,449
and back then, they had
no reason to doubt her.
622
00:30:53,818 --> 00:30:56,687
Patricia tells US that she was
living with Keith lintz's
623
00:30:56,788 --> 00:30:59,656
brother or half-brother,
and on the night
624
00:30:59,757 --> 00:31:02,059
of the homicides,
he came to the trailer,
625
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:03,961
and she said Keith was...
626
00:31:05,029 --> 00:31:06,663
Just bouncing
all over the place.
627
00:31:09,801 --> 00:31:12,703
He kept looking out the window,
and she... she asked him,
628
00:31:12,804 --> 00:31:13,670
"what are you doing?"
She said.
629
00:31:13,805 --> 00:31:15,305
"The cops are after."
630
00:31:15,406 --> 00:31:17,274
"Why are the cops
after you?"
631
00:31:17,375 --> 00:31:18,853
And he said,
"because I left my effin'
632
00:31:18,877 --> 00:31:21,445
footprints in the yard,
and they're gonna find me."
633
00:31:23,781 --> 00:31:25,916
Patricia tells them
that Keith was heavily
634
00:31:26,017 --> 00:31:27,317
into crystal meth,
635
00:31:27,418 --> 00:31:29,653
and that night,
she was afraid of him.
636
00:31:31,723 --> 00:31:33,467
One of Patricia wilds'
big, alarming concerns
637
00:31:33,491 --> 00:31:34,835
was just the way
Keith was acting, you know,
638
00:31:34,859 --> 00:31:37,527
it was... he was acting berserk,
and she said he had a gun
639
00:31:37,629 --> 00:31:39,129
in one hand,
was waving it around,
640
00:31:39,230 --> 00:31:40,864
but she also observed him
with a couple
641
00:31:40,965 --> 00:31:42,332
other weapons in his belt line.
642
00:31:43,501 --> 00:31:46,336
That started the ball
rolling with Keith lintz,
643
00:31:46,437 --> 00:31:49,539
and we really started to dig
in on him as our main suspect.
644
00:31:51,009 --> 00:31:53,110
To confirm Patricia's story,
645
00:31:53,211 --> 00:31:56,680
detective Suarez tracks down
the mother of Keith's child.
646
00:31:56,781 --> 00:31:57,915
She's in bad shape.
647
00:31:59,217 --> 00:32:01,551
It turns out that within
a month or so,
648
00:32:01,653 --> 00:32:02,819
I believe, of the homicides,
649
00:32:02,954 --> 00:32:06,056
Keith had choked her,
beat her, choked her,
650
00:32:06,157 --> 00:32:08,592
and we were able to confirm
this through south bend police
651
00:32:08,693 --> 00:32:11,161
department records that he...
652
00:32:11,262 --> 00:32:14,097
We obviously now know, he's got
the propensity for violence.
653
00:32:17,201 --> 00:32:20,137
Now that we really got our teeth
sunk in to Keith lintz,
654
00:32:20,238 --> 00:32:22,506
we start looking
for his inner circle.
655
00:32:22,607 --> 00:32:24,141
We start getting more calls.
656
00:32:26,678 --> 00:32:29,846
The next big break really
comes from another
657
00:32:29,948 --> 00:32:30,948
ex-girlfriend.
658
00:32:31,015 --> 00:32:34,051
She had a birthday party
for one of her sons,
659
00:32:34,152 --> 00:32:35,652
and the mother told her,
660
00:32:35,787 --> 00:32:37,387
why do you have
Keith lintz here?
661
00:32:37,488 --> 00:32:40,057
He killed the tarwackis.
Get him out of my home.
662
00:32:40,158 --> 00:32:43,226
I don't want him in my house,
so that started a fight,
663
00:32:45,496 --> 00:32:47,030
she said she asked him,
664
00:32:47,131 --> 00:32:50,600
"why do people think
you killed the tarwackis?"
665
00:32:50,702 --> 00:32:51,702
And he told her,
666
00:32:51,769 --> 00:32:53,570
"well, because they found
my footprints there,
667
00:32:53,671 --> 00:32:54,915
"but I was just taking
a shortcut
668
00:32:54,939 --> 00:32:56,340
to my grandparents' house."
669
00:32:59,410 --> 00:33:00,711
It seemed to believable.
670
00:33:01,946 --> 00:33:02,990
If you're gonna make a story up,
671
00:33:03,014 --> 00:33:04,425
why do you make the footprints
in the snow up?
672
00:33:04,449 --> 00:33:06,416
Because we never
had released that,
673
00:33:06,517 --> 00:33:09,386
and people didn't know
we had that as evidence.
674
00:33:09,487 --> 00:33:12,155
Detectives now
strongly believe Keith murdered
675
00:33:12,256 --> 00:33:15,959
Carolyn and John tarwacki,
but they need proof.
676
00:33:16,060 --> 00:33:20,130
They go back to Sherry lintz,
hoping to break his alibi.
677
00:33:20,231 --> 00:33:23,800
She reiterates the Keith was
sleeping on the couch at 8 A.M.
678
00:33:23,901 --> 00:33:26,403
And that she drove him
to work at nine.
679
00:33:26,504 --> 00:33:28,338
So now we're...
We're working on it.
680
00:33:28,439 --> 00:33:30,774
We have to confirm his timeline,
681
00:33:30,875 --> 00:33:33,377
and at that time,
he was working at Walmart
682
00:33:33,478 --> 00:33:36,146
in mishawaka, Indiana.
683
00:33:36,247 --> 00:33:38,115
We were able to determine
through work records
684
00:33:38,216 --> 00:33:39,116
that was not true.
685
00:33:39,217 --> 00:33:41,284
He never did show up for work.
686
00:33:41,386 --> 00:33:42,686
He didn't call in sick.
687
00:33:42,787 --> 00:33:46,490
He didn't call in at all,
so we know that he's not there.
688
00:33:46,591 --> 00:33:48,125
We believe mom's lying.
689
00:33:48,226 --> 00:33:51,528
If only detectives
had checked Keith's alibi
690
00:33:51,629 --> 00:33:54,464
back on day one
of the investigation,
691
00:33:54,565 --> 00:33:56,967
they would have realized that
he had both the means
692
00:33:57,068 --> 00:34:00,003
and the opportunity
to kill the tarwackis.
693
00:34:01,739 --> 00:34:03,473
It's not uncommon
to see in a lot
694
00:34:03,574 --> 00:34:06,209
of cases go cold...
In this case, three years,
695
00:34:06,310 --> 00:34:07,888
it doesn't matter if it's
three months, three years,
696
00:34:07,912 --> 00:34:08,812
30 years...
697
00:34:08,913 --> 00:34:11,048
I'll often tell investigators,
the name of
698
00:34:11,149 --> 00:34:13,683
the offender is probably
already in the file.
699
00:34:13,785 --> 00:34:16,353
He's probably already even
been interviewed
700
00:34:16,454 --> 00:34:20,223
and falsely or wrongly
screened out or excluded.
701
00:34:20,324 --> 00:34:22,559
And I say always go back to
what you did first
702
00:34:22,660 --> 00:34:24,127
and re-examine it
with fresh eyes,
703
00:34:24,228 --> 00:34:25,796
and we see in this case,
sure enough,
704
00:34:25,897 --> 00:34:28,165
he's spoken to in
the canvass and not asked
705
00:34:28,266 --> 00:34:29,666
the right questions
and ruled out.
706
00:34:33,404 --> 00:34:35,172
Obviously, Keith
is on the radar now.
707
00:34:37,141 --> 00:34:38,675
We tried looking
for his whereabouts.
708
00:34:38,776 --> 00:34:41,611
We find out that Keith has fled
to Nashville, Tennessee.
709
00:34:43,147 --> 00:34:45,315
The next day,
I had to go to the doctor.
710
00:34:45,416 --> 00:34:48,752
My blood pressure
was 200 over 195.
711
00:34:51,155 --> 00:34:52,322
We have to track him down.
712
00:34:54,158 --> 00:34:56,326
If Keith did this,
he needs to pay for it.
713
00:35:09,307 --> 00:35:11,374
Investigators
believe Keith lintz
714
00:35:11,476 --> 00:35:13,844
killed Carolyn
and John tarwacki.
715
00:35:15,746 --> 00:35:18,849
After an exhaustive search,
they finally track him down
716
00:35:18,950 --> 00:35:20,283
in a Nashville jail,
717
00:35:20,384 --> 00:35:22,719
imprisoned on some
minor traffic charges.
718
00:35:24,355 --> 00:35:26,356
So Keith and I have history.
719
00:35:26,457 --> 00:35:28,625
He doesn't like me.
I don't like him.
720
00:35:28,726 --> 00:35:30,437
There comes a point
in time where you really
721
00:35:30,461 --> 00:35:32,181
have to suck up
your ego as an investigator.
722
00:35:32,263 --> 00:35:33,830
As much as I want to go
interview Keith,
723
00:35:33,931 --> 00:35:37,100
I know that if I go,
he's not gonna say a thing.
724
00:35:38,236 --> 00:35:40,871
So I sent a couple other
detectives to talk to him.
725
00:35:43,941 --> 00:35:46,376
They do lengthy interviews
with him.
726
00:35:46,477 --> 00:35:48,778
He denies, denies, denies
being involved,
727
00:35:51,516 --> 00:35:54,484
but he also thinks that
he can beat a polygraph,
728
00:35:54,585 --> 00:35:57,420
and he... he volunteers
to take polygraphs.
729
00:35:59,590 --> 00:36:01,091
He failed both tests miserably.
730
00:36:04,195 --> 00:36:07,164
So we know that Keith
is our main suspect,
731
00:36:07,265 --> 00:36:09,699
but we don't have that final
nail in the coffin.
732
00:36:11,102 --> 00:36:13,136
But then they get
a phone call from
733
00:36:13,237 --> 00:36:15,705
a man by the name of
Shane Zimmerman.
734
00:36:15,806 --> 00:36:19,075
He says he's got information
about the homicide.
735
00:36:20,978 --> 00:36:22,879
Shane Zimmerman
is hitting the lotto,
736
00:36:22,980 --> 00:36:25,682
hitting all seven numbers
in the powerball.
737
00:36:25,783 --> 00:36:27,684
It's just something
that you don't expect
738
00:36:27,785 --> 00:36:29,152
out of the blue to come,
739
00:36:29,253 --> 00:36:31,788
even though we are
on the right trail.
740
00:36:31,889 --> 00:36:33,690
Shane Zimmerman
describes himself
741
00:36:33,791 --> 00:36:34,891
as a childhood friend
742
00:36:34,992 --> 00:36:37,294
of the prime suspect,
Keith lintz,
743
00:36:37,395 --> 00:36:40,030
who just happens to be sharing
a cell with him
744
00:36:40,131 --> 00:36:42,065
at this very moment.
745
00:36:42,166 --> 00:36:44,167
Shane says,
"Keith told me he did it.
746
00:36:44,268 --> 00:36:46,269
"He can't take it back,
but he says he did it.
747
00:36:46,370 --> 00:36:49,206
He was crying... one night,
he was in his bunk, crying."
748
00:36:51,542 --> 00:36:53,176
And Shane says,
"what's wrong?"
749
00:36:54,378 --> 00:36:56,223
He says, "I killed them.
I killed those people."
750
00:36:56,247 --> 00:36:57,491
He goes, "they didn't
deserve to die,
751
00:36:57,515 --> 00:36:59,749
but I can't take it back."
752
00:36:59,850 --> 00:37:01,952
In order
to secure a conviction,
753
00:37:02,053 --> 00:37:05,689
investigators need Keith's
confession on tape.
754
00:37:05,790 --> 00:37:07,624
Shane Zimmerman didn't
want anything.
755
00:37:09,994 --> 00:37:12,629
He said, "I've screwed up
my entire life."
756
00:37:12,730 --> 00:37:14,598
He goes, "for once in my life,
I'm going to do
757
00:37:14,699 --> 00:37:15,832
something right."
758
00:37:17,802 --> 00:37:19,603
Shane agrees to wear a wire
759
00:37:19,704 --> 00:37:21,404
and heads back into the cell.
760
00:37:22,707 --> 00:37:24,874
But we tell them,
"don't ask questions.
761
00:37:24,976 --> 00:37:27,077
"You don't interrogate.
You don't interview.
762
00:37:27,178 --> 00:37:28,511
"You just act
as a listening post.
763
00:37:28,613 --> 00:37:30,480
"If he wants to talk
about it, you talk,
764
00:37:30,581 --> 00:37:31,982
you listen."
765
00:37:32,083 --> 00:37:33,250
On their end,
766
00:37:33,351 --> 00:37:36,052
police push Keith
in a series of interviews,
767
00:37:36,153 --> 00:37:39,489
keeping the murders
at the top of his mind.
768
00:37:39,590 --> 00:37:41,635
They said, "hey, Keith, we know
sometimes you can go into
769
00:37:41,659 --> 00:37:45,929
"drug-induced hysteria,
and this is what happened
770
00:37:46,030 --> 00:37:47,030
in this case, isn't it?"
771
00:37:47,098 --> 00:37:48,932
And, you know, obviously,
he denied it there,
772
00:37:49,033 --> 00:37:50,911
but when he went back into
the cell and was talking
773
00:37:50,935 --> 00:37:52,969
to... to Shane, Shane...
774
00:37:53,070 --> 00:37:54,715
He told Shane, he goes,
"man, they had it...
775
00:37:54,739 --> 00:37:56,840
They had it right on.
That's what happened."
776
00:37:59,143 --> 00:38:01,511
Finally,
Keith breaks down and spills
777
00:38:01,579 --> 00:38:03,647
the whole story of
the murders to Shane.
778
00:38:05,916 --> 00:38:08,351
Zimmerman was a hammer that
we hammered that nail home,
779
00:38:08,452 --> 00:38:11,921
so it was an incredible
stroke of luck.
780
00:38:12,023 --> 00:38:13,433
With their informant's help,
781
00:38:13,457 --> 00:38:16,059
investigators are able
to piece together
782
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,796
John and Carolyn's
final 24 hours.
783
00:38:19,897 --> 00:38:23,133
We find out that Keith
and his brother, Brian,
784
00:38:23,234 --> 00:38:24,567
are drinking all night long.
785
00:38:26,137 --> 00:38:27,737
They're doing drugs
the entire night.
786
00:38:29,206 --> 00:38:31,107
That morning of the murders,
787
00:38:31,208 --> 00:38:33,243
Keith gets in a fight
with the mother,
788
00:38:33,344 --> 00:38:36,780
because he wants more money
to go buy drugs.
789
00:38:36,881 --> 00:38:38,548
This is very early in
the morning
790
00:38:38,649 --> 00:38:40,884
prior to the homicides.
791
00:38:40,985 --> 00:38:45,255
We believe that after the mother
would not give Keith money,
792
00:38:45,356 --> 00:38:47,190
he probably planned on doing
a home invasion.
793
00:38:51,762 --> 00:38:54,431
John is finishing getting
ready for work.
794
00:38:54,532 --> 00:38:56,032
He is shaving.
795
00:38:59,337 --> 00:39:01,905
Carolyn's on
her computer at 7:03.
796
00:39:03,407 --> 00:39:08,278
And sometime between there
and 7:45, Keith lintz is
797
00:39:08,379 --> 00:39:13,183
walking down the road and
walks down that back alley.
798
00:39:13,284 --> 00:39:15,452
He may have seen
this house that looked like
799
00:39:15,553 --> 00:39:16,619
an easy target,
800
00:39:16,721 --> 00:39:18,888
and knowing the area,
he walks around to the back.
801
00:39:20,691 --> 00:39:21,958
He then goes in the house.
802
00:39:24,662 --> 00:39:25,962
Keith used to have pit bulls,
803
00:39:26,063 --> 00:39:27,423
so this guy was not
scared of dogs.
804
00:39:30,568 --> 00:39:31,968
He lets wrigley the dog into
805
00:39:32,069 --> 00:39:33,903
the back room and closes
the door behind him.
806
00:39:37,641 --> 00:39:39,609
I don't think he was expecting
807
00:39:39,710 --> 00:39:41,478
for John and Carolyn to be home.
808
00:39:43,180 --> 00:39:45,382
Especially if the dog
was, like, in the back,
809
00:39:45,483 --> 00:39:47,417
maybe he thought,
"these people are gone.
810
00:39:47,518 --> 00:39:48,598
Maybe there's nobody home."
811
00:39:51,288 --> 00:39:52,789
I believe
that she saw Keith
812
00:39:52,890 --> 00:39:54,724
coming in through the back door.
813
00:39:54,825 --> 00:39:56,259
Keith already had his gun out.
814
00:39:59,063 --> 00:40:00,463
He may have been
doing, obviously,
815
00:40:00,564 --> 00:40:03,600
meth and maybe
some coke or crack.
816
00:40:03,701 --> 00:40:05,335
I believe that she screams.
817
00:40:05,436 --> 00:40:08,638
John comes out of the bathroom,
encounters Keith.
818
00:40:10,641 --> 00:40:11,718
He was just out of his mind.
819
00:40:11,742 --> 00:40:13,053
I don't... I don't think
that he went
820
00:40:13,077 --> 00:40:15,111
in there with the intent
to murder anyone.
821
00:40:15,212 --> 00:40:17,647
I think he went in there
with the intent to Rob,
822
00:40:21,652 --> 00:40:24,354
and all of sudden he'd just been
confronted by two people.
823
00:40:24,455 --> 00:40:27,223
It's a fight or flight, and
he decided to kill them both.
824
00:40:42,907 --> 00:40:45,108
I think my biggest
takeaway from this case
825
00:40:45,209 --> 00:40:49,913
was not to prejudge
what you may see at a scene.
826
00:40:52,917 --> 00:40:57,153
This case would suggest that
maybe there was emotion here
827
00:40:57,254 --> 00:40:58,688
that had evolved to
828
00:40:58,789 --> 00:41:00,757
a certain level
where people got angry
829
00:41:00,858 --> 00:41:02,325
and perpetrated violence,
830
00:41:02,426 --> 00:41:05,528
and really, what it says to me,
is... is sometimes, you know,
831
00:41:05,629 --> 00:41:08,364
by sheer happenstance
or... or drug use,
832
00:41:08,466 --> 00:41:11,000
it can culminate in explosive
violence in a way that seems
833
00:41:11,101 --> 00:41:12,702
personal when really, it's just
834
00:41:12,803 --> 00:41:16,139
disorganized, frantic,
unexplainable behavior.
835
00:41:20,077 --> 00:41:21,778
Keith lintz
is charged with
836
00:41:21,879 --> 00:41:24,113
two counts of
first degree murder.
837
00:41:24,215 --> 00:41:26,015
He's convicted
and sentenced to life
838
00:41:26,116 --> 00:41:27,951
without the possibility
of parole.
839
00:41:31,021 --> 00:41:33,156
The timeline was incredibly
important, because you had
840
00:41:33,257 --> 00:41:35,058
this 35-, 40-minute window
841
00:41:35,159 --> 00:41:38,061
where this crime occurred,
and putting together
842
00:41:38,162 --> 00:41:39,362
this timeline
843
00:41:39,463 --> 00:41:42,565
made it absolutely clear, when
we caught the guy, who it was.
844
00:41:50,207 --> 00:41:53,376
As the father, John tarwacki,
said, there is no closure,
845
00:41:53,477 --> 00:41:56,012
and I also believe
there is no closure.
846
00:41:56,113 --> 00:41:57,580
You may get a conviction,
847
00:41:57,681 --> 00:41:59,201
but it's not gonna
bring your kid back,
848
00:41:59,283 --> 00:42:01,484
not gonna...
It's not gonna change anything.
849
00:42:01,585 --> 00:42:03,785
Every time Christmas comes
around, every time a birthday
850
00:42:03,821 --> 00:42:05,522
comes around,
they're not gonna be there.
851
00:42:08,425 --> 00:42:09,903
But what sticks with me
most about
852
00:42:09,927 --> 00:42:11,895
this case is just how
senseless it was.
853
00:42:13,030 --> 00:42:15,765
These were two normal people
getting ready for work,
854
00:42:15,866 --> 00:42:19,636
and somebody made up their
mind that they wanted something
855
00:42:19,737 --> 00:42:21,381
and was gonna do whatever
they could to get it.
856
00:42:21,405 --> 00:42:23,606
It just... it's senseless.
It made no sense.
857
00:42:23,707 --> 00:42:26,643
And it still doesn't,
even after all this time.
858
00:42:26,744 --> 00:42:28,264
I don't know how you recover
from that.
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