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I played some weird games
with girlfriends.
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We were just...
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and I didn't know
that was sexual.
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I didn't know what sex
was, to be honest.
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We had five weeks of sex
education at private school,
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I still didn't know
I had a vagina.
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He was in
a punk rock band
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and I had the biggest
crush on him.
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I was with him,
like, off and on
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for two or three years.
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I thought he was the
greatest thing in the world.
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I kept asking him
to marry me.
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I look back and I go,
what the heck, you know?
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Like, I was
15 years old.
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Like, what was I thinking
about marriage already for?
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I've been doing it
since I was 13.
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I didn't know
how sex really happened.
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I only saw,
like, Blue Lagoon
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and I saw them, like,
get on top of each other.
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So when I had
my boyfriend
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and he tried
to have sex with me,
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and I was, like,
you're doing it wrong.
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And he's, like, how do you
think people have sex?
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And I was, like,
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you just get on top
of me and rub like that.
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He goes, no,
it goes inside.
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And I was like, no,
it hurts.
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And he said, okay,
turn over
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and we just did anal for,
like, a year and a half.
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? Are we under attack
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? In this zone?
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? Tell me your name
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? Is it for fame?
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? Are we under attack
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? In this zone?
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? Tell me your name
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? Visual frame
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? Are we under attack
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? In this zone?
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This is not
a story about pornography.
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This is a story about women,
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their dreams, their desires,
and their lives.
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I had an idea
for my third fine-art book
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to take images of the most
sexualized women on the planet
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and portray them
in a totally different light,
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strip away
the porn-star mask,
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allowing for their true
essence to shine through,
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as the exaggerated image
of a porn star
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has stuck with us
for so long.
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As an artist,
I felt the need
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to change the way we view
these women visually,
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yet I was unaware
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of the bigger picture
that would unfold.
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I called my friend Mike Moz,
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a veteran in the adult
entertainment world,
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and asked him
to put together
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a group of some of
the most successful names
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in the business.
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Yet I soon realized
that many people around me
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started to ask
why would I immerse myself
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in the world of pornography,
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which is still perceived
by so many
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that know nothing about
the business as taboo.
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It was this reaction
that opened my eyes,
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taking this project
to a whole new level,
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raising many questions
in my mind
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as to why porn stars
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are looked down upon
in our society,
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yet we watch their movies
for our own sexual pleasure,
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and the fact that we use sex
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as our ultimate power tool
in many areas of our lives.
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So I took on a house
in the Hollywood Hills
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and brought my creative team
together,
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invited 16 women
currently in the business
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to pose for my art book
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whilst filming
the making of the process
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for a documentary,
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and from this
Aroused was born.
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During the three hours I was
going to spend with each girl,
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I planned to ask questions
about their lives,
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creating a platform
for their voices to be heard.
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So here we are
preparing to meet
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some of the most
successful women
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in the business of sex.
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It's easy money,
but is it easy being naked
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and having sex with someone
you don't know?
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At first, no,
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it wasn't.
I'm sure.
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It wasn't.
I was very timid.
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I didn't really
move my body.
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You could tell
I was a little...
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if you see some
of my earlier scenes
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and you do some research
on Misty Stone...
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Yeah, right?
Can't wait.
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Which I'll wait until after,
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because I wanted
to meet the person.
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Oh, I dig it.
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I don't want to meet
the porn star.
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And if I'd known
and seen the work before,
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I wouldn't... couldn't look at you
in the same light as this.
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I feel like this is
a very innocent place
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for me to be sitting.
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No matter who I meet,
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I feel like that
blank canvas to me is...
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because then it's a genuine
I-want-to-get-to-know-you.
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It's after
that I can see your work
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and then go, wow, so she said
this and she's done this.
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And I think that's
when the story unfolds
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in a different head space
for me.
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Oh, my goodness,
she's so awesome.
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Wow, I love that.
But it's the truth.
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Mike's bringing...
sent me some Wikipedia
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so I know who you are,
of course.
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I'm not used
to this treatment
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because, honestly, we get
treated so differently
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because of what we do,
you know what I mean?
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So you wanting to
really get to know me?
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Oh, my goodness, do you know
how that makes me feel?
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Amazing. Thank you.
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Really?
Yes.
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My first tattoo
is my mom's signature
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of her first
and middle name.
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She is my best friend.
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We both died in my childbirth
and were revived.
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I mean, we've been through
everything together.
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My mom and I talk
about everything.
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When I was 13 years old,
to push her buttons,
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I said, Mom, what would you do
if I became a stripper?
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She said, well,
if you're gonna do it,
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make sure that you dance
in a city
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where you'll make
a lot of money
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so that your time
is worth it.
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I looked a lot different
in school.
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I was very...
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I was very Puerto Rican.
Really?
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I had long, burgundy,
scrunched-up gelled hair,
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glued-down bangs
and big loop earrings
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and big bubble jackets
and, like, 18 pairs of Nikes
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and Taylors and stuff.
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And then I just changed,
you know.
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I left school very young
to go to beauty school.
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I was always, I would say,
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growing up,
I was a daddy's girl.
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I always was with my dad,
but as I got older,
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I feel like... 'cause
my parents got divorced,
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so I lived with my mom,
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so I felt like I was forced into
a relationship with my mother
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if I wanted to have
a social life.
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I come from
a really big family.
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There's eight kids.
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And I do remember my dad
was very...
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You know, he was a bishop
and he was in the Air Force,
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and so he was always gone.
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He had too much to do,
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and so, like,
there's always been
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this huge desire
for attention in me.
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I moved, like,
55 times as a kid.
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Shut up.
Swear, yeah.
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That's, like, when
I stopped counting.
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My parents divorced
when I was young,
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so I didn't grow up...
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I had my stepdad, but...
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Right, but not
with your dad.
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No, mm-mm.
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Didn't see him or just...
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No, mm-mm.
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Out of the loop.
Mm-hmm.
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Still out of the loop?
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Prefer not to see him.
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I make a choice,
a valiant choice
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not to participate
in seeing him.
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My mom was taking care of
my brothers and sisters,
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but because my mom had me
when she was 15 years old,
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my grandparents
had always raised me.
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My grandpa
was always my dad,
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and so it was actually...
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now that I look back on it
as an adult,
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I really... I cherish
that they were there
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to take care of me,
you know,
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because my mom was so young
that, who knows, you know.
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With young parents,
you just never know.
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I moved in with my dad
for a couple of years.
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It was a very turbulent
situation.
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When I turned 16,
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he kicked me out
and that was that.
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And we didn't talk again
until just a month ago.
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23 years of my life,
we didn't talk.
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I would go to school
with a full face of makeup
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and, like, my hair,
like, flat-ironed.
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And the teachers are, like,
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"Why don't you go
wash it off?"
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And I didn't get it,
you know.
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I thought
it was embarrassing
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to be seen without
a full face of makeup.
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Literally at, like,
10 years old,
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I thought
I was a little woman
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because I was kind of,
within our little family,
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grasping to try to assume
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this, like, adult,
maternal role, you know,
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because
it just wasn't there.
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My family was raised...
half was reform
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and half was Catholic.
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And then personally I was
raised nondenominational
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and then I married
a preacher when I was 18
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who was missionary Baptist.
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So that is how religious
my background is.
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I used to, like, teach vacation
Bible school to the kids
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and Sunday school and
all those wonderful things
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that I still truly
totally believe in.
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I haven't lost my religion.
I still believe in God
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and I still have the things
that I, you know, relate to
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as far as religion goes.
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And for me, I still think
that no matter who God is
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or what God you believe in
or what you want to think,
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you should still be able
to live your life
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the way you think
is best humanly possible.
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I went to private
Christian school.
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I mean, I was no
stranger to the Bible.
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I've read it
inside and out.
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Like, I remember I had
to memorize a new verse
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every single day
and recite it.
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I was schooled
in the religious way.
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I was at that church
six days a week.
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There'd be two services.
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There'd be Sunday school,
then church on Sundays.
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Monday through Friday,
I'm in school
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and then I'm in daycare
till my mom gets off work,
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which is Christian daycare.
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Missionettes on Wednesday,
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which is like
Christian Girl Scouts.
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And then Saturday
occasionally I'd get drug in
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'cause my mom
had choir practice.
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So I lived at that church.
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And even then, I remember
I would sit in class
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and they would say something
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and it just
wouldn't make sense.
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They would say something
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that defied logic
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even to a third-grader.
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And, um... so I just...
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I didn't feel
any guilt about sex
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by the time
it got down to that.
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Church was, like, forced.
You know what I mean?
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When I was really, really
young, I was all about it.
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I loved going
to Sunday school
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and, you know,
things like that.
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I was, like, sort of
the preacher's pet,
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I guess you could say.
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That sounds kind of sexual.
It wasn't at all.
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Just that I was, like,
you know,
251
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the shining little star
in the bunch
252
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and had all of Genesis
memorized
253
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by my fourth birthday,
you know.
254
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But then one day,
I just woke up
255
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and I realized
that it's just a story,
256
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at least in my opinion.
257
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I respect
any and all religions
258
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as long as, you know,
they're about, you know,
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the greater good of all.
260
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You know what I mean?
261
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But for me, I just kind of
came to look at religion
262
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as, like, a placebo
that people need
263
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to get them through
dark moments
264
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and to sort of
guide their ships.
265
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But I just kind of
went renegade
266
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and decided I didn't want
any of those things, you know.
267
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You know who I love?
Deepak Chopra.
268
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First time I went
to one of his seminars,
269
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I hate to tell you,
it changed my life.
270
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Changed my life.
271
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Just how he says,
you know,
272
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think about loading all these
things into your suitcases
273
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and how heavy it's gonna get
274
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and all those little things
that just...
275
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Yeah, you know what?
You're right.
276
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Made a difference.
Let it go.
277
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Do you have a strong
religious connection at all?
278
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Mm-mm, no.
279
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My mom's Catholic,
you know.
280
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I was baptized Catholic,
but, no, we didn't really...
281
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You know,
we had a pretty...
282
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I pretty much was able
to do whatever I wanted,
283
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which is probably
why I'm here.
284
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I just was very naive
and didn't really, like...
285
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I grew up being scared
to say what I really felt.
286
00:14:25,968 --> 00:14:28,943
You know, I think my mom's
intentions were good,
287
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but she really
raised us kids
288
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to kind of suppress that.
289
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You know, like,
don't speak up kinda.
290
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And that kind of hurt me
in a lot of ways.
291
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Growing up, it was,
like, man, you know...
292
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Being 30 years old now,
293
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I'm finally being
able to go, okay,
294
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I can say this
and it's okay,
295
00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,519
and I'm not gonna,
like, get hurt
296
00:14:47,536 --> 00:14:50,288
and these people aren't gonna
be angry at me, you know.
297
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It was a lot of work
to be able to do that.
298
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But I think
one of the reasons
299
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that's it's so common
300
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for girls in adult not
to have fathers in the home
301
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is not really because
they're damaged,
302
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but because there's not
someone there to disappoint.
303
00:15:09,731 --> 00:15:10,994
I mean, it's one thing
304
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to disappoint your mom
like that.
305
00:15:12,212 --> 00:15:13,874
It's another
to disappoint your dad.
306
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And if you don't have
a dad to disappoint,
307
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that barrier is not there.
308
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And so lots of people,
especially now,
309
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are children of divorce
310
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and one-parent homes and
everything, but it's just...
311
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I find with adult
that it's always
312
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just a matter of how many
barriers were there,
313
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because there are barriers.
314
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It's a social no-no.
It's taboo.
315
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So if it's a child
coming in from foster care,
316
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they have no one
to disappoint.
317
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If it's a child coming in
from one parent,
318
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especially the mom,
319
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they don't have a dad
to disappoint.
320
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If it's a child... you know...
And they're not fucked up.
321
00:15:47,247 --> 00:15:50,366
They don't have to worry
about that responsibility.
322
00:15:50,398 --> 00:15:52,429
If it's a child
who moved around a lot,
323
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they don't have the roots
in the community
324
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that they can disappoint.
325
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And so the less
grounded you are
326
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into a community
and a family,
327
00:16:00,079 --> 00:16:01,598
the easier it is to go off
and do things
328
00:16:01,647 --> 00:16:02,960
that go against that.
329
00:16:04,484 --> 00:16:06,484
Listening to these stories,
330
00:16:06,516 --> 00:16:08,292
I also wanted
a different perspective,
331
00:16:08,324 --> 00:16:09,764
so I approached an agent
332
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and veteran
of the adult industry.
333
00:16:11,818 --> 00:16:14,570
People who don't know
our industry will say,
334
00:16:14,602 --> 00:16:17,386
well, surely they wanted
to be a Hollywood actress.
335
00:16:17,418 --> 00:16:18,666
No, they didn't.
336
00:16:18,698 --> 00:16:21,257
They're not
failed actresses.
337
00:16:21,306 --> 00:16:23,273
They've been promiscuous
all their lives
338
00:16:23,307 --> 00:16:27,129
and when they reach 18,
you know what?
339
00:16:27,147 --> 00:16:28,506
I'm giving it away
for free.
340
00:16:28,538 --> 00:16:30,265
I might as well
do it on camera.
341
00:16:30,383 --> 00:16:32,270
They don't think,
well, in the future
342
00:16:32,584 --> 00:16:35,896
it might hinder
a normal relationship
343
00:16:36,781 --> 00:16:39,868
or it will be difficult
to raise children
344
00:16:39,901 --> 00:16:42,157
knowing that one day
that's gonna come up.
345
00:16:42,206 --> 00:16:45,276
We want 18-year-olds
because they're fresh,
346
00:16:45,309 --> 00:16:47,676
because they have
tight bodies,
347
00:16:48,144 --> 00:16:51,503
and because that's what
a lot of guys who jerk off
348
00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:53,200
want to jerk off to.
349
00:16:53,264 --> 00:16:54,479
They don't want
to jerk off
350
00:16:54,513 --> 00:16:56,432
to a woman that looks
like their wife
351
00:16:56,464 --> 00:16:59,328
even if their wife
is beautiful.
352
00:17:00,179 --> 00:17:02,611
So the first
three years,
353
00:17:02,660 --> 00:17:03,938
if they work
from 18 to 21,
354
00:17:03,972 --> 00:17:05,218
none of them are smart.
355
00:17:05,251 --> 00:17:07,011
I don't care
who they are.
356
00:17:07,043 --> 00:17:11,490
They're gonna blow through
$150,000, $250,000.
357
00:17:11,523 --> 00:17:12,819
So for that,
I would like them...
358
00:17:12,851 --> 00:17:15,778
spend 18 to 21,
get some education.
359
00:17:15,811 --> 00:17:17,922
See if this is really
what you want to do
360
00:17:17,939 --> 00:17:22,579
because you will have
a scarlet letter on you.
361
00:17:22,611 --> 00:17:24,147
You will.
362
00:17:35,113 --> 00:17:37,336
The more time I spent
getting to know these women,
363
00:17:37,401 --> 00:17:38,728
the more
I kept thinking about
364
00:17:38,777 --> 00:17:42,445
the changes in the world we live
in regarding our views on sex.
365
00:17:42,470 --> 00:17:44,944
We frown upon these women
in the sex industry
366
00:17:44,969 --> 00:17:48,130
who are making films to fulfill
the ever-growing demand.
367
00:17:48,201 --> 00:17:50,080
Yet if there was no need
for porn,
368
00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:51,916
these women
would be choosing
369
00:17:51,941 --> 00:17:53,822
a completely different
life path.
370
00:17:53,893 --> 00:17:55,045
Sex is everywhere
371
00:17:55,077 --> 00:17:57,780
and right in front of our noses
on a daily basis,
372
00:17:58,192 --> 00:18:00,927
somewhat distorting
its sensuous roots.
373
00:18:00,944 --> 00:18:03,056
One can see advertising
up on giant billboards
374
00:18:03,136 --> 00:18:04,976
trying to sell a product,
375
00:18:05,056 --> 00:18:08,367
yet the subliminal message depicts
some sort of sexual innuendo
376
00:18:09,145 --> 00:18:12,008
stating that sex holds
the power and without it,
377
00:18:12,041 --> 00:18:15,000
this product
holds no value to you.
378
00:18:16,649 --> 00:18:19,609
From the media with its
mainstream publications
379
00:18:19,641 --> 00:18:24,520
to the high-art intellectual magazines
that sell across the globe...
380
00:18:24,934 --> 00:18:28,470
reality TV shows
that stream uncensored
381
00:18:28,503 --> 00:18:32,534
live on the Internet
all day, every day...
382
00:18:32,838 --> 00:18:35,062
to the pop icons
we so love and adore
383
00:18:35,094 --> 00:18:37,350
who use their sexuality
384
00:18:37,382 --> 00:18:40,389
to pull you into their
extraordinary world...
385
00:18:41,497 --> 00:18:43,915
ultimately, sex sells.
386
00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:47,379
Yet why are we so willing
to let sex be the indicator
387
00:18:47,427 --> 00:18:48,818
as to whether
something tastes better,
388
00:18:48,851 --> 00:18:50,114
runs faster,
389
00:18:50,148 --> 00:18:54,131
or makes you look and smell
more attractive?
390
00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:57,311
The lines are blurring
391
00:18:57,328 --> 00:19:00,207
between the messages we are
sending out into the world.
392
00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,608
Whether you think sex
is the root of all evil
393
00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:06,967
or the thing that connects you to God,
everyone is partaking in a sacred ritual.
394
00:19:07,178 --> 00:19:09,897
So ultimately,
how far are we willing to go
395
00:19:09,930 --> 00:19:12,809
to forget the true power
of who we really are
396
00:19:12,841 --> 00:19:15,641
as we are letting go
of our innate sensuality
397
00:19:16,142 --> 00:19:19,037
for our obsession
with sexuality?
398
00:19:31,554 --> 00:19:35,984
When I first came into the business,
I couldn't say the word blowjob.
399
00:19:36,017 --> 00:19:37,158
Forget throat fuck
400
00:19:38,587 --> 00:19:40,497
and fisting.
401
00:19:40,528 --> 00:19:42,927
And after about
three months of working...
402
00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,887
I don't know if you know him...
Clive McLean is his name.
403
00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:49,103
He shot for Hustler for
29 years before he died.
404
00:19:49,137 --> 00:19:51,360
And they have a beautiful
ranch in Sunland,
405
00:19:51,392 --> 00:19:55,311
and, okay, I've become
adjusted to the porn life,
406
00:19:55,328 --> 00:19:57,381
and after three months,
I went up there
407
00:19:57,406 --> 00:19:58,844
and I said,
put the kettle on.
408
00:19:58,877 --> 00:19:59,948
I need to chat to you.
409
00:19:59,982 --> 00:20:04,341
I said because, morally, I don't think
women should sell themselves for sex.
410
00:20:04,490 --> 00:20:06,106
I said,
so if I don't believe
411
00:20:06,138 --> 00:20:09,209
what they're doing is moral,
what sort of person am I?
412
00:20:09,258 --> 00:20:11,401
I'm getting a paycheck
off of their pussies.
413
00:20:11,418 --> 00:20:13,497
It makes me worse.
414
00:20:13,530 --> 00:20:15,161
Someone's gonna
do your job, Fran,
415
00:20:15,194 --> 00:20:17,497
and there's always
gonna be people like you.
416
00:20:17,530 --> 00:20:19,049
And they can either choose
417
00:20:19,082 --> 00:20:20,857
to have someone that doesn't
give a shit about them
418
00:20:20,890 --> 00:20:21,769
or someone like you
419
00:20:21,802 --> 00:20:24,217
who might actually care
about them.
420
00:20:25,293 --> 00:20:28,499
I never believed I would
actually do it, you know.
421
00:20:28,601 --> 00:20:30,312
It's one of those things
422
00:20:30,345 --> 00:20:32,120
where I think
the greatest reservation
423
00:20:32,169 --> 00:20:33,608
lies in people discovering you
424
00:20:33,641 --> 00:20:35,048
and treating you differently
425
00:20:35,082 --> 00:20:37,401
because of what you do,
you know.
426
00:20:38,451 --> 00:20:40,889
And I was always
petrified of that.
427
00:20:40,975 --> 00:20:43,358
I knew that there was
a lot of money to be made,
428
00:20:43,375 --> 00:20:44,686
and so that
was the motivation.
429
00:20:44,735 --> 00:20:47,134
Anyone who tells you
it isn't is full of shit.
430
00:20:48,335 --> 00:20:49,726
An agent approached me
431
00:20:49,758 --> 00:20:51,646
and said we'd like to bring you
out to California.
432
00:20:51,678 --> 00:20:54,846
We see that you do some...
We see that you do nude work,
433
00:20:54,879 --> 00:20:57,518
and all you would be doing
is Playbolevel.
434
00:20:57,677 --> 00:21:00,092
And so on my first shoot
when they said, "Okay,
435
00:21:00,186 --> 00:21:02,108
now we're gonna film,"
I go, "Film what?"
436
00:21:02,758 --> 00:21:04,869
And they said,
"Your solo scene."
437
00:21:04,918 --> 00:21:08,197
And I said, "Of course it's
solo, but what are we filming?"
438
00:21:08,231 --> 00:21:10,229
They go,
"Your masturbation scene."
439
00:21:10,424 --> 00:21:13,287
I go, "I hate to admit this
440
00:21:13,304 --> 00:21:15,835
"and you're not gonna believe me, but
I've never masturbated in my life."
441
00:21:15,859 --> 00:21:17,858
And they go, "Well,
how is that possible?"
442
00:21:17,891 --> 00:21:21,378
I go, "I always had
somebody to do it for me."
443
00:21:21,739 --> 00:21:24,858
But I sat there just
deer-in-the-headlights
444
00:21:24,891 --> 00:21:28,618
and I said, "So how much am I
getting paid for the day?"
445
00:21:28,667 --> 00:21:30,666
And they told me
and my jaw dropped
446
00:21:30,699 --> 00:21:32,426
because not only was that
the biggest paycheck
447
00:21:32,459 --> 00:21:34,106
I'd ever gotten in one day,
448
00:21:34,953 --> 00:21:38,632
that's the biggest check
I'd ever gotten in my life.
449
00:21:39,075 --> 00:21:41,145
I get paid to have sex.
450
00:21:41,349 --> 00:21:43,349
Like, why doesn't
everybody do that?
451
00:21:43,381 --> 00:21:45,060
We do it for free
all the time.
452
00:21:45,093 --> 00:21:47,012
If you can make money,
why not?
453
00:21:47,567 --> 00:21:49,760
I remember going online
to find an agent
454
00:21:49,847 --> 00:21:52,014
because I wanted
to do nude modeling.
455
00:21:52,171 --> 00:21:53,649
And when I went there,
456
00:21:53,719 --> 00:21:55,807
I went in, took
my Polaroid, of course.
457
00:21:56,011 --> 00:21:57,274
And when I walked out,
458
00:21:57,291 --> 00:21:59,242
I guess I didn't really
pay attention
459
00:21:59,291 --> 00:22:00,970
to what was hanging
on the walls.
460
00:22:01,003 --> 00:22:03,882
And it was a hardcore
adult company.
461
00:22:04,858 --> 00:22:05,903
And I was, like,
462
00:22:06,005 --> 00:22:08,324
well, that's not, you know,
what I signed up for.
463
00:22:08,357 --> 00:22:09,796
I was just trying
to do, you know,
464
00:22:09,845 --> 00:22:12,452
nude modeling like
Penthouse style stuff.
465
00:22:13,191 --> 00:22:15,094
And the owner of the company
466
00:22:15,111 --> 00:22:17,222
and one of the directors
loved me so much,
467
00:22:17,271 --> 00:22:19,969
they were, like, please,
please, please do this.
468
00:22:20,068 --> 00:22:22,755
He was, like, we'll pay you
a better amount...
469
00:22:22,788 --> 00:22:24,051
you know, we'll pay you
this amount of money,
470
00:22:24,084 --> 00:22:25,315
which was better
than any other girl
471
00:22:25,348 --> 00:22:26,595
was getting at that moment.
472
00:22:26,628 --> 00:22:28,547
And they said if
I didn't feel comfortable,
473
00:22:28,579 --> 00:22:29,555
if I didn't like it,
474
00:22:29,588 --> 00:22:31,187
I didn't have to sign
the model release
475
00:22:31,236 --> 00:22:32,739
and they'll still pay me.
476
00:22:32,756 --> 00:22:35,907
So giving me
that freedom to choose
477
00:22:35,940 --> 00:22:37,667
whether I like it or not
during it,
478
00:22:37,700 --> 00:22:39,075
not a lot of people
479
00:22:39,108 --> 00:22:42,836
get that first experience
in the business.
480
00:22:43,994 --> 00:22:48,073
So elongate a female
performer's career.
481
00:22:48,106 --> 00:22:51,353
The idea is you come in,
482
00:22:51,402 --> 00:22:53,765
you start off doing
girl-girl and solos
483
00:22:53,813 --> 00:22:54,916
until you're comfortable
484
00:22:54,949 --> 00:22:56,436
being in front
of the camera.
485
00:22:56,484 --> 00:22:58,739
Then you'll introduce
a boy.
486
00:22:59,527 --> 00:23:01,638
Then after six months
of that,
487
00:23:01,671 --> 00:23:03,958
you'll be seen on camera
with two boys.
488
00:23:04,934 --> 00:23:06,232
Keep it stretched out.
489
00:23:06,358 --> 00:23:07,845
Don't give your fans
490
00:23:07,878 --> 00:23:10,165
and the public
and the porn world
491
00:23:10,198 --> 00:23:11,989
all of your body
all at once
492
00:23:12,596 --> 00:23:14,971
because if you're 18
and you do that,
493
00:23:15,096 --> 00:23:16,727
you won't see past 24
494
00:23:16,744 --> 00:23:19,943
because you would have
done everything.
495
00:23:20,393 --> 00:23:22,440
Smart women
that you've met
496
00:23:22,473 --> 00:23:25,000
that are in
their later thirties,
497
00:23:25,405 --> 00:23:26,956
they've done it
the right way.
498
00:23:26,973 --> 00:23:28,262
They've held off.
499
00:23:28,702 --> 00:23:30,029
Sure,
we'll give it to you,
500
00:23:30,078 --> 00:23:32,349
but you're gonna
have to wait for it.
501
00:23:32,891 --> 00:23:34,656
And then the fans
have got it.
502
00:24:43,775 --> 00:24:44,942
I was in New York
503
00:24:44,991 --> 00:24:47,441
and I was dancing at
one of the clubs there.
504
00:24:47,582 --> 00:24:49,821
And I just woke up
one morning
505
00:24:49,854 --> 00:24:51,933
and I was, like, I'm just
sick of this lifestyle.
506
00:24:51,966 --> 00:24:55,133
Like, I'm out
till 5, 6 A.M.
507
00:24:55,166 --> 00:24:57,037
I sleep
until 5, 6 P.M.
508
00:24:57,086 --> 00:24:58,845
I get up,
I go blow some money,
509
00:24:58,893 --> 00:25:00,845
and then I go to work
and I do it again.
510
00:25:00,878 --> 00:25:02,285
You know, it was just
like this vicious cycle,
511
00:25:02,317 --> 00:25:03,692
and I was drinking a lot.
512
00:25:03,726 --> 00:25:06,445
And I didn't necessarily
think that adult
513
00:25:06,478 --> 00:25:08,813
would be, like,
my saving grace, you know.
514
00:25:08,845 --> 00:25:10,653
I just thought it was something
else that I could do.
515
00:25:10,686 --> 00:25:12,653
If I didn't experience
this firsthand,
516
00:25:12,685 --> 00:25:14,205
I wouldn't believe it.
517
00:25:14,871 --> 00:25:17,911
But I am actually
more together and stable
518
00:25:17,944 --> 00:25:20,391
than I've ever been
in my whole life, you know.
519
00:25:21,042 --> 00:25:23,681
Financially,
520
00:25:23,713 --> 00:25:25,964
you know, as far as
having a little home
521
00:25:26,144 --> 00:25:28,703
and just trying
to just build a life.
522
00:25:28,798 --> 00:25:32,797
And I know it sounds... again,
it sounds insane, you know,
523
00:25:33,740 --> 00:25:36,636
that I found
my stability in porn.
524
00:25:36,754 --> 00:25:39,296
It just doesn't sound
like it makes sense,
525
00:25:39,555 --> 00:25:41,746
but that's what I did.
526
00:25:52,855 --> 00:25:55,493
Because in a sense they're
becoming younger and younger,
527
00:25:55,511 --> 00:25:59,190
I feel,
in their interest in sex,
528
00:25:59,223 --> 00:26:00,919
because it's all
on the Internet.
529
00:26:01,005 --> 00:26:03,517
You can download it,
you can get to it quicker.
530
00:26:04,083 --> 00:26:07,437
Do you find there's a lot of
18-year-olds coming to you?
531
00:26:07,726 --> 00:26:10,253
Like, literally, you're, like,
let me see your passport?
532
00:26:10,302 --> 00:26:11,404
They walk in,
that's all they know.
533
00:26:11,438 --> 00:26:12,701
They don't know
anything else.
534
00:26:12,734 --> 00:26:14,621
They just know
they can fuck,
535
00:26:14,654 --> 00:26:16,333
they like the attention.
536
00:26:16,382 --> 00:26:18,861
Do you think a lot of these
girls are sex addicts?
537
00:26:19,934 --> 00:26:21,213
Um...
538
00:26:21,245 --> 00:26:23,932
No. I think they're more
attention addicts.
539
00:26:25,496 --> 00:26:28,023
When stripping and porn
came into the picture,
540
00:26:28,056 --> 00:26:31,527
it was, like, wow,
like, a lot of attention.
541
00:26:31,544 --> 00:26:33,623
And also the attention
of feeling sexy,
542
00:26:33,656 --> 00:26:35,383
because I didn't get
that kind of attention
543
00:26:35,415 --> 00:26:36,663
growing up either.
544
00:26:37,181 --> 00:26:38,300
I was not that girl,
you know.
545
00:26:38,349 --> 00:26:39,739
Like, people
wouldn't look at me
546
00:26:39,788 --> 00:26:41,068
and, like, want to date me.
547
00:26:41,100 --> 00:26:43,500
So it was, like, ooh,
I felt sexy, too, you know?
548
00:26:44,012 --> 00:26:45,419
But I don't know
where that came from.
549
00:26:45,453 --> 00:26:46,780
I really... I'd love to know.
550
00:26:46,829 --> 00:26:47,980
Well, it turns on
the switch.
551
00:26:48,013 --> 00:26:49,900
When you know that
you're having a gap.
552
00:26:49,933 --> 00:26:51,340
My dad traveled at times.
I get it.
553
00:26:51,372 --> 00:26:52,908
That switch turns
and you're, like, oh, wait,
554
00:26:52,941 --> 00:26:55,148
but I can get it from here
and this makes me feel good.
555
00:26:55,180 --> 00:26:56,988
Because I think
we all want to be loved
556
00:26:57,021 --> 00:26:58,988
on a very, you know,
profound level.
557
00:26:59,028 --> 00:27:00,779
You have a child,
so you know that.
558
00:27:00,883 --> 00:27:03,114
You know
you need to feed her
559
00:27:03,202 --> 00:27:06,370
to make her feel that
she is really cared about.
560
00:27:06,616 --> 00:27:07,608
So kind of it's that.
561
00:27:07,633 --> 00:27:10,975
When you moved
into stripping,
562
00:27:11,694 --> 00:27:14,911
was it with intention to go
into porn or was it just...
563
00:27:15,271 --> 00:27:17,639
Not at all.
Like, not at all.
564
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:19,927
The same girlfriend
565
00:27:19,959 --> 00:27:21,639
that got me hooked up
in the bachelor parties,
566
00:27:21,687 --> 00:27:23,350
we hadn't been hanging out
all the time.
567
00:27:23,368 --> 00:27:25,127
I randomly
got a call from her.
568
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:26,759
She's in L.A. doing porn
569
00:27:26,808 --> 00:27:30,391
and she's with an agent
who will give her 100 bucks
570
00:27:30,408 --> 00:27:32,679
if she would, you know,
scout girls for him.
571
00:27:32,728 --> 00:27:33,767
So she was, like, hey,
572
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:34,966
you want to come out
and try this?
573
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:36,199
And that's how it happened.
574
00:27:36,248 --> 00:27:38,887
I was on the plane
the next day and...
575
00:27:40,812 --> 00:27:44,971
I started stripping
when I was 15 years old.
576
00:27:45,986 --> 00:27:48,305
I think back then,
'cause I was really young,
577
00:27:48,345 --> 00:27:50,080
I probably liked attention,
you know.
578
00:27:50,112 --> 00:27:51,280
I liked attention.
579
00:27:51,328 --> 00:27:52,671
I really wasn't thinking
about the money.
580
00:27:52,688 --> 00:27:55,248
But I had won a dance
contest in Hollywood.
581
00:27:55,281 --> 00:27:57,372
I used to hang
around Hollywood a lot
582
00:27:57,403 --> 00:27:59,442
and I knew everybody
back then,
583
00:27:59,459 --> 00:28:01,150
so I would get in
all the clubs.
584
00:28:01,291 --> 00:28:03,224
And I met a guy there
who was, like,
585
00:28:03,326 --> 00:28:05,432
"I know how you can make
a lot of money."
586
00:28:05,464 --> 00:28:06,855
And I was, like,
really? How?
587
00:28:06,936 --> 00:28:08,775
He's, like, my friend owns
a bachelor party company.
588
00:28:08,972 --> 00:28:11,130
And I said, but I'm not
of age, you know.
589
00:28:11,163 --> 00:28:12,459
I'm only 15.
590
00:28:12,491 --> 00:28:14,731
He's, like, oh, it's okay,
they won't ask for ID.
591
00:28:14,780 --> 00:28:17,371
And so I started stripping
at bachelor parties
592
00:28:17,404 --> 00:28:18,682
when I was young.
593
00:28:18,700 --> 00:28:19,851
I like to have sex.
594
00:28:19,900 --> 00:28:24,970
I mean, when I was younger,
yeah, I was probably...
595
00:28:25,772 --> 00:28:27,132
I'd look back now
596
00:28:27,165 --> 00:28:29,719
and probably say silly girl,
silly young girl.
597
00:28:29,744 --> 00:28:31,623
I was never afraid of sex.
598
00:28:32,225 --> 00:28:34,168
So it was just like, okay,
599
00:28:34,363 --> 00:28:36,347
so people are gonna get
to see me having sex
600
00:28:36,364 --> 00:28:37,915
and people are gonna
get to see me naked.
601
00:28:37,947 --> 00:28:39,563
And I figured that,
602
00:28:39,596 --> 00:28:44,395
after I'd done the first,
like, time on the camera,
603
00:28:44,911 --> 00:28:48,125
I was either gonna love it
or hate it.
604
00:28:48,159 --> 00:28:49,822
You know, and if
I didn't like it,
605
00:28:49,871 --> 00:28:53,229
I knew I could just walk away.
606
00:28:53,469 --> 00:28:55,468
My family,
they're very judgmental
607
00:28:55,517 --> 00:28:59,195
and they kind of made it
seem like, oh, really?
608
00:28:59,229 --> 00:29:00,748
So this is what
you're gonna do?
609
00:29:00,797 --> 00:29:02,748
So what are you
getting paid?
610
00:29:02,780 --> 00:29:04,668
Who are you?
I don't see you on TV.
611
00:29:04,700 --> 00:29:06,267
You know,
so it became, like, okay,
612
00:29:06,300 --> 00:29:07,516
so if you're gonna do it,
613
00:29:07,549 --> 00:29:08,876
then you need to be
the best at it.
614
00:29:09,128 --> 00:29:11,975
And I thrived on that
and I became the best at it
615
00:29:12,132 --> 00:29:14,134
and I just kept growing
and growing and growing.
616
00:29:14,323 --> 00:29:15,746
And I'm still not exactly
617
00:29:15,804 --> 00:29:17,771
where I want to be
in this industry,
618
00:29:18,100 --> 00:29:20,195
but, yeah, family had
a whole lot to do with that.
619
00:29:20,229 --> 00:29:21,428
Mom has always
been supportive.
620
00:29:21,460 --> 00:29:22,788
I love you, baby.
621
00:29:22,837 --> 00:29:23,876
But, you know,
622
00:29:23,957 --> 00:29:25,460
my family made it
kind of hard at first.
623
00:29:25,477 --> 00:29:28,516
But now that I am
where I am, oh, my goodness,
624
00:29:28,549 --> 00:29:30,868
the support that I have
from them is amazing.
625
00:29:30,916 --> 00:29:32,675
My dad's in the Air Force
626
00:29:32,709 --> 00:29:33,956
and then my mom
just, you know,
627
00:29:33,988 --> 00:29:35,107
she does different things,
secretary,
628
00:29:35,156 --> 00:29:36,596
she's worked at a bank.
629
00:29:36,628 --> 00:29:38,035
And I lived in Oklahoma,
630
00:29:38,069 --> 00:29:40,179
like I said, the only state
you can't buy porn.
631
00:29:40,197 --> 00:29:42,900
There's just
no easy way to do it.
632
00:29:43,334 --> 00:29:45,916
There's no way to tell them.
You can't hide it.
633
00:29:46,112 --> 00:29:47,474
Somebody's gonna see it.
634
00:29:47,577 --> 00:29:49,493
And there's
no softening the fact
635
00:29:49,611 --> 00:29:51,657
that you tell your parents,
"Hey, I'm doing porn." No.
636
00:29:51,690 --> 00:29:53,418
They knew I was always
in trouble, you know.
637
00:29:53,451 --> 00:29:55,305
But I actually
lost my virginity
638
00:29:55,339 --> 00:29:56,586
with my first husband.
639
00:29:56,618 --> 00:29:59,466
So I actually wasn't,
like, messing around.
640
00:29:59,498 --> 00:30:00,538
Like, I was always sexual...
641
00:30:00,587 --> 00:30:01,817
But not promiscuous.
642
00:30:01,866 --> 00:30:03,226
I didn't lose my virginity
until I was 17.
643
00:30:03,259 --> 00:30:06,538
I came home
and I said, "Mom, Dad,
644
00:30:07,529 --> 00:30:08,648
I'm moving to L.A."
645
00:30:08,666 --> 00:30:10,408
And they're, like,
what? Why?
646
00:30:10,426 --> 00:30:11,849
Because it came
out of nowhere.
647
00:30:11,881 --> 00:30:13,625
It wasn't, like, oh, I was
thinking about doing this.
648
00:30:13,658 --> 00:30:16,393
They're, like, "Why are
you moving to L.A.?"
649
00:30:16,425 --> 00:30:17,944
I was, like, "To do porn."
650
00:30:17,978 --> 00:30:20,170
My dad called me
every name in the book.
651
00:30:21,150 --> 00:30:23,615
"What the fuck?
Oh, my God!"
652
00:30:23,685 --> 00:30:27,740
My mom was just like
a deer in the headlights.
653
00:30:27,772 --> 00:30:30,092
The only porno
that I ever saw
654
00:30:30,141 --> 00:30:31,371
that I came across,
655
00:30:31,420 --> 00:30:32,972
my parents
made a home video,
656
00:30:33,021 --> 00:30:34,443
which was
quite disturbing.
657
00:30:34,477 --> 00:30:35,692
Yeah, I know.
I was being nosy
658
00:30:35,741 --> 00:30:39,132
in my parents' closet
with my stepsister
659
00:30:39,165 --> 00:30:40,763
and we came across
some videos
660
00:30:40,781 --> 00:30:43,099
and we put it in
not knowing what it was.
661
00:30:44,146 --> 00:30:46,833
And, yeah, not sexy,
so I turned it off
662
00:30:46,867 --> 00:30:48,274
and screamed and was
scarred for life.
663
00:30:48,306 --> 00:30:50,737
My father still doesn't
know I ever watched it
664
00:30:50,783 --> 00:30:52,199
or ever saw it.
665
00:30:52,498 --> 00:30:54,626
When I finally started
getting recognized,
666
00:30:54,674 --> 00:30:56,977
I was, like, okay,
I'm a porn star.
667
00:30:57,027 --> 00:30:58,513
Now let's do this.
668
00:30:58,546 --> 00:31:01,058
Because, like, what I discussed
with them earlier, it did...
669
00:31:01,090 --> 00:31:03,074
It got to a point
where it was, like, okay,
670
00:31:03,106 --> 00:31:04,786
if I'm gonna do this,
671
00:31:04,818 --> 00:31:06,225
I'm gonna be the best I can be
672
00:31:06,258 --> 00:31:08,626
and maybe try and be
the best there can be
673
00:31:08,658 --> 00:31:10,257
or is or ever was.
674
00:31:10,274 --> 00:31:11,745
I wanted, at that point,
675
00:31:11,794 --> 00:31:14,379
knew, like, okay,
now this is my career.
676
00:31:14,654 --> 00:31:17,485
Now I'm not just
gonna do it half-assed.
677
00:31:17,842 --> 00:31:19,495
I'm gonna do it all the way.
678
00:31:19,605 --> 00:31:21,640
So I want to rise to the top.
Of course.
679
00:31:22,289 --> 00:31:24,403
About three months in,
I was gonna stay.
680
00:31:24,428 --> 00:31:26,476
But when I really, actually
started doing porn,
681
00:31:26,508 --> 00:31:28,235
I didn't feel like
I was doing porn.
682
00:31:28,268 --> 00:31:31,548
And then again, I wasn't
raised even watching porn
683
00:31:31,629 --> 00:31:32,796
or knowing what porn is.
684
00:31:32,828 --> 00:31:34,699
So my mind
didn't wrap around,
685
00:31:34,717 --> 00:31:35,996
like, this was porn,
you know,
686
00:31:36,029 --> 00:31:37,467
because my parents
never hid me from it.
687
00:31:37,516 --> 00:31:38,876
It was never in my house,
it was never around.
688
00:31:38,909 --> 00:31:40,299
It wasn't something
we talked about.
689
00:31:40,316 --> 00:31:41,739
I was raised very religious,
690
00:31:41,757 --> 00:31:44,504
so my mind didn't think of it
as something bad either.
691
00:31:44,529 --> 00:31:46,236
I just didn't know
what it was.
692
00:31:46,917 --> 00:31:49,685
I wasn't forced to do
anything I didn't want to.
693
00:31:49,734 --> 00:31:50,756
Nobody ruined my life.
694
00:31:50,773 --> 00:31:52,356
It was a decision that
for the rest of my life
695
00:31:52,374 --> 00:31:54,325
I'm gonna have to deal with
someone questioning me
696
00:31:54,374 --> 00:31:56,516
because I did do, you know,
an adult film and whatnot.
697
00:31:56,533 --> 00:31:59,234
But at the end of the day,
I did it because I wanted to
698
00:31:59,344 --> 00:32:01,557
and I feel confident enough
to, you know,
699
00:32:01,621 --> 00:32:03,701
take responsibility
for my own actions.
700
00:32:04,137 --> 00:32:08,041
Do you think you can have
this career as an adult star
701
00:32:08,073 --> 00:32:09,992
and be able
to have an impact
702
00:32:10,026 --> 00:32:11,144
beyond the sex?
703
00:32:11,178 --> 00:32:13,576
You know, what happened was
704
00:32:13,625 --> 00:32:16,200
the second that I started
doing scenes...
705
00:32:16,234 --> 00:32:17,385
like, when I went in,
706
00:32:17,417 --> 00:32:19,576
because
it was so easy for me
707
00:32:19,609 --> 00:32:22,104
to take one look at
the girls at the convention
708
00:32:22,138 --> 00:32:24,505
before I signed and see it
for what it was,
709
00:32:24,537 --> 00:32:29,465
I assumed that anyone
who was given a glimmer
710
00:32:30,156 --> 00:32:31,388
could see it
for what it was.
711
00:32:31,420 --> 00:32:34,476
So I didn't think
that the prejudices
712
00:32:34,508 --> 00:32:36,747
would be hard ones
to break down.
713
00:32:37,284 --> 00:32:40,931
And then I remember
it wasn't people who knew me
714
00:32:40,965 --> 00:32:42,995
who were telling me, oh,
you've made a big mistake
715
00:32:43,028 --> 00:32:45,715
and, oh, you're never gonna
amount to anything now,
716
00:32:45,748 --> 00:32:46,978
you've ruined your life.
717
00:32:47,010 --> 00:32:49,956
It was strangers.
And I remember at first
718
00:32:50,005 --> 00:32:52,324
I was like, ha-ha, you're
funny, that's so ignorant.
719
00:32:52,356 --> 00:32:55,027
And then
it was a growing voice
720
00:32:55,045 --> 00:32:56,324
as I got a growing name.
721
00:32:56,357 --> 00:32:58,099
There were more people
who want to tell you
722
00:32:58,133 --> 00:32:59,779
"You're too pretty for this,
you're too this for that."
723
00:32:59,813 --> 00:33:01,060
I'm, like, what do you mean?
724
00:33:01,092 --> 00:33:03,219
That makes no sense
to be "too pretty" for porn.
725
00:33:03,252 --> 00:33:04,658
I mean, they want pretty.
726
00:33:04,829 --> 00:33:06,046
I mean, they don't...
727
00:33:06,971 --> 00:33:08,227
How can you be...
728
00:33:08,431 --> 00:33:11,406
It's like saying you're
too good of an actress
729
00:33:11,439 --> 00:33:13,647
to be an actress.
It's stupid.
730
00:33:14,188 --> 00:33:16,921
I immediately started in
this business when I was 18,
731
00:33:16,953 --> 00:33:18,424
so I was still
very much a baby
732
00:33:18,473 --> 00:33:19,671
and hadn't fully developed.
733
00:33:19,704 --> 00:33:22,535
My mom got implants
when I was in school.
734
00:33:22,552 --> 00:33:25,111
I saw the transformation
of her,
735
00:33:25,145 --> 00:33:27,015
how she felt more womanly.
736
00:33:27,032 --> 00:33:28,632
And when I signed
my contract, they're, like,
737
00:33:28,664 --> 00:33:30,344
have you ever thought
of getting implants?
738
00:33:30,376 --> 00:33:32,551
I was, like,
I've always wanted them.
739
00:33:33,111 --> 00:33:35,671
So they're, like, okay,
then we will manage you
740
00:33:35,703 --> 00:33:37,462
and, you know, take you
to the right people
741
00:33:37,479 --> 00:33:39,271
so we can get it done right.
742
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:40,550
So I was happy
743
00:33:40,599 --> 00:33:43,478
that they guided me
in the right position
744
00:33:43,543 --> 00:33:45,350
and that I had a company
that stood behind me
745
00:33:45,384 --> 00:33:47,191
even at such a young age.
746
00:33:47,508 --> 00:33:49,315
I never thought
I'd be a porn star.
747
00:33:49,364 --> 00:33:51,603
I was gonna be
a weather girl.
748
00:33:51,636 --> 00:33:54,916
I did, and I even had
a full ride
749
00:33:54,965 --> 00:33:56,595
to O.U. for
meteorology school.
750
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,376
So I was actually
gonna be a weather girl.
751
00:33:59,408 --> 00:34:01,290
I was into sex,
and even at 18,
752
00:34:01,375 --> 00:34:02,927
like most girls
that get in.
753
00:34:03,014 --> 00:34:04,222
I was, like,
oh, I could do porn.
754
00:34:04,254 --> 00:34:05,630
But I didn't want to,
I was like, no,
755
00:34:05,662 --> 00:34:06,942
'cause what if I do it
and then I regret it
756
00:34:06,974 --> 00:34:08,413
or I don't like it?
757
00:34:08,430 --> 00:34:09,582
You thought about that?
758
00:34:09,631 --> 00:34:11,133
I did, I did, and
I waited until I was 22.
759
00:34:13,127 --> 00:34:16,486
Is there a lot of people
in the industry whacked out?
760
00:34:16,914 --> 00:34:18,289
The girls especially?
761
00:34:19,477 --> 00:34:21,046
Like any industry,
by the way.
762
00:34:21,164 --> 00:34:23,549
I know, you know, with
the modeling industry,
763
00:34:23,580 --> 00:34:25,115
the various industries
that I've been in, of course,
764
00:34:25,148 --> 00:34:26,891
and the entertainment
industry,
765
00:34:26,924 --> 00:34:28,795
drugs are prevalent.
It's there.
766
00:34:28,844 --> 00:34:29,963
I know a lot of the girls
were explaining
767
00:34:29,996 --> 00:34:31,435
how they've had sex
with other girls
768
00:34:31,468 --> 00:34:32,843
or girls come onto the set
769
00:34:32,876 --> 00:34:34,284
and in the bathroom
every five minutes.
770
00:34:34,316 --> 00:34:35,563
And none of them
will say anything.
771
00:34:35,597 --> 00:34:36,700
None of them seem
to want to get involved.
772
00:34:36,732 --> 00:34:38,283
And it kind of
breaks my heart
773
00:34:38,317 --> 00:34:40,844
that they just want
to get the job done,
774
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:42,732
that nobody's...
775
00:34:43,172 --> 00:34:46,467
Well, they're
taking drugs on set
776
00:34:46,500 --> 00:34:49,171
because they're not happy
about what they're doing.
777
00:34:49,220 --> 00:34:50,403
They're taking drugs on set
778
00:34:50,420 --> 00:34:53,188
because they see a guy
with a cock like this.
779
00:34:53,220 --> 00:34:56,691
They know that's not going
anywhere without a Vicodin.
780
00:34:56,740 --> 00:34:58,723
I'm blessed.
I have a normal home life.
781
00:34:58,741 --> 00:35:00,483
I have a husband,
I have a kid.
782
00:35:00,500 --> 00:35:02,883
I have friends
that keep me in check.
783
00:35:02,900 --> 00:35:06,147
I do like some of
the porn girls very much.
784
00:35:06,936 --> 00:35:08,551
They are great company.
785
00:35:08,584 --> 00:35:10,119
I have a lot of fun
with them,
786
00:35:10,153 --> 00:35:11,176
a lot in common.
787
00:35:11,208 --> 00:35:12,967
And I will bring them
to my house.
788
00:35:13,016 --> 00:35:14,679
Do you think these girls
have lost a sense
789
00:35:14,713 --> 00:35:16,183
of who they really are
as women
790
00:35:16,217 --> 00:35:17,463
when they come into
that office?
791
00:35:17,496 --> 00:35:21,016
Yes. Not as women,
but they become
792
00:35:21,048 --> 00:35:24,264
the person they are
on the screen.
793
00:35:24,616 --> 00:35:26,935
They lose a sense
of themselves.
794
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,376
Do you think they're leaving
their soul at the door
795
00:35:29,408 --> 00:35:31,279
when they walk in
or do you think...
796
00:35:31,328 --> 00:35:32,879
I think every time
797
00:35:32,928 --> 00:35:36,687
someone does a scene
in front of a camera
798
00:35:37,610 --> 00:35:41,978
that a tiny bit
of their soul disappears.
799
00:35:42,010 --> 00:35:44,895
So I think as fast as
the money they might make,
800
00:35:45,021 --> 00:35:48,460
I think they will need to spend
half of that on therapy.
801
00:35:48,509 --> 00:35:50,540
"Why I did it
in the first place."
802
00:36:00,718 --> 00:36:02,461
Over the past several years,
803
00:36:02,494 --> 00:36:04,781
I've been fortunate enough
to photograph
804
00:36:04,814 --> 00:36:06,221
some of the most
successful people
805
00:36:06,254 --> 00:36:07,853
in the entertainment
industry,
806
00:36:07,887 --> 00:36:09,133
and I'm no stranger
807
00:36:09,166 --> 00:36:11,384
to creating
thought-provoking imagery:
808
00:36:11,525 --> 00:36:14,692
From artwork for
Grammy-nominated artists
809
00:36:15,021 --> 00:36:16,405
or exploring what happens
810
00:36:16,450 --> 00:36:18,429
behind the closed doors
of a hotel
811
00:36:18,592 --> 00:36:22,367
in the art photograph book
Room 23...
812
00:36:28,269 --> 00:36:32,108
to shooting beautiful women
for erotic stories in Paris.
813
00:36:32,749 --> 00:36:37,292
This was for my first
fine-art book, Paper Thin.
814
00:36:39,098 --> 00:36:40,953
Yet one of my dreams
was to shoot for Playboy
815
00:36:40,987 --> 00:36:43,545
because of its iconic imagery
of the past,
816
00:36:44,009 --> 00:36:45,496
and my dream was realized
817
00:36:45,529 --> 00:36:48,137
when they gave me their
cover story with Lisa Rinna,
818
00:36:48,169 --> 00:36:50,761
a woman very much in touch
with her body.
819
00:36:51,472 --> 00:36:54,771
Yet having the most sexualized
women in bed just for me
820
00:36:54,796 --> 00:36:57,771
was daunting, as I felt
that capturing their sensuality
821
00:36:57,804 --> 00:37:00,603
may not be as easy
as one would think.
822
00:37:08,044 --> 00:37:09,755
Okay, so what
we're gonna do
823
00:37:09,772 --> 00:37:11,051
is we're gonna have you
on the bed,
824
00:37:11,084 --> 00:37:12,443
take your robe off,
825
00:37:12,476 --> 00:37:15,132
and have you lie
in the center of the bed.
826
00:37:17,452 --> 00:37:19,195
Keep moving
around the space
827
00:37:19,212 --> 00:37:20,651
and I'm gonna
move around you.
828
00:37:20,684 --> 00:37:21,931
And your lights are here,
829
00:37:21,964 --> 00:37:23,883
so you're gonna play
to the light.
830
00:37:23,932 --> 00:37:25,963
If you move your face
away from it
831
00:37:26,012 --> 00:37:28,331
and you feel darkness,
you will be in dark.
832
00:37:38,226 --> 00:37:39,377
The hardest thing for me
833
00:37:39,410 --> 00:37:41,633
is pulling the sexy
out of the girl
834
00:37:41,666 --> 00:37:44,410
and have them really get
in touch with their sensual.
835
00:37:44,472 --> 00:37:46,441
You need to soften the eyes
836
00:37:46,491 --> 00:37:50,130
so that you show
a vulnerable side of yourself.
837
00:37:50,162 --> 00:37:52,042
I think that's
a very hard thing to do
838
00:37:52,074 --> 00:37:54,064
because somehow
your guard has to go down
839
00:37:54,089 --> 00:37:56,591
in order to allow that
to come through.
840
00:37:56,616 --> 00:37:59,401
But I know that that's
really the essence
841
00:37:59,434 --> 00:38:00,729
of what these images
are all about
842
00:38:00,762 --> 00:38:04,809
is trying to find the you
behind the porn star.
843
00:38:05,379 --> 00:38:07,539
? So you call me
844
00:38:07,588 --> 00:38:09,186
? I keep looking back
845
00:38:09,219 --> 00:38:10,626
? 'Cause you want it
846
00:38:10,659 --> 00:38:12,466
? I keep looking back
847
00:38:12,499 --> 00:38:14,307
? 'Cause I need it
848
00:38:14,339 --> 00:38:16,018
? I keep looking back
849
00:38:16,067 --> 00:38:17,298
? Come on, feed it
850
00:38:17,347 --> 00:38:19,459
? I keep looking back
851
00:38:19,491 --> 00:38:20,770
? ' Cause I found it
852
00:38:20,787 --> 00:38:22,339
? I keep looking back
853
00:38:22,371 --> 00:38:23,938
? I can tease it
854
00:38:23,971 --> 00:38:27,266
? I keep looking back
for love ?
855
00:38:28,427 --> 00:38:29,706
The hardest thing
I find
856
00:38:29,739 --> 00:38:31,674
is to take yourself
out of where you are,
857
00:38:31,708 --> 00:38:33,114
the lights, the people,
the whole thing.
858
00:38:33,147 --> 00:38:34,426
So if you can put yourself
in that place
859
00:38:34,475 --> 00:38:37,834
and just run with it
or just connect with me
860
00:38:37,867 --> 00:38:39,754
and just be
in that space,
861
00:38:39,787 --> 00:38:41,578
then it becomes
a bit more of a dance.
862
00:38:41,595 --> 00:38:43,674
And I think, for me,
modeling
863
00:38:43,707 --> 00:38:45,880
or being in front of
the camera is a dance.
864
00:38:45,949 --> 00:38:47,856
It's knowing
it's not easy,
865
00:38:48,082 --> 00:38:49,233
but when you
get it down...
866
00:38:49,258 --> 00:38:50,296
And it's a silent focus.
867
00:38:50,321 --> 00:38:52,491
You can just get in that zone
and nothing fazes you.
868
00:38:52,525 --> 00:38:54,052
Nothing. It's
a softening of the eyes.
869
00:38:54,077 --> 00:38:55,324
It's the letting go.
870
00:38:55,357 --> 00:38:57,788
More like you've never
seen something before.
871
00:38:57,821 --> 00:38:59,084
That, I think, evokes
872
00:38:59,117 --> 00:39:01,384
more of an innate
connection to yourself.
873
00:39:02,992 --> 00:39:09,833
? That's the time
I'm home ?
874
00:39:09,896 --> 00:39:12,983
Not too... yeah, closed
is better. Closed.
875
00:39:13,339 --> 00:39:15,226
This is so hard,
I swear to God.
876
00:39:15,259 --> 00:39:16,346
No, no, I'm trying
to pull you back.
877
00:39:16,371 --> 00:39:17,963
I could never be
a real model.
878
00:39:18,026 --> 00:39:24,025
? There's my girl back home
879
00:39:24,554 --> 00:39:26,185
Yeah, every
single picture.
880
00:39:26,218 --> 00:39:27,353
Oh, no.
I absolutely hate it.
881
00:39:27,386 --> 00:39:28,505
You know, this is
the first picture
882
00:39:28,554 --> 00:39:30,265
I've ever loved,
by the way.
883
00:39:30,796 --> 00:39:32,475
? So you call me
884
00:39:32,508 --> 00:39:34,315
? I keep looking back
885
00:39:34,348 --> 00:39:35,867
? 'Cause you want it
886
00:39:35,916 --> 00:39:37,755
? I keep looking back
887
00:39:37,788 --> 00:39:39,195
? 'Cause I need it
888
00:39:39,228 --> 00:39:41,355
? I keep looking back
889
00:39:41,388 --> 00:39:42,539
? Come on, feed it
890
00:39:42,556 --> 00:39:44,395
? I keep looking back
891
00:39:44,428 --> 00:39:46,235
? 'Cause I found it
892
00:39:46,268 --> 00:39:48,155
? I keep looking back
893
00:39:48,188 --> 00:39:49,483
? And you tease it
894
00:39:49,516 --> 00:39:53,387
? I keep looking back
for love ?
895
00:39:59,159 --> 00:40:01,030
? So you call me
896
00:40:01,079 --> 00:40:02,790
? I keep looking back
897
00:40:02,839 --> 00:40:04,710
? 'Cause you want it
898
00:40:04,759 --> 00:40:06,310
? I keep looking back
899
00:40:06,359 --> 00:40:07,750
? 'Cause you need it
900
00:40:07,799 --> 00:40:09,478
? I keep looking back
901
00:40:09,511 --> 00:40:11,350
? Come on, feed it
902
00:40:11,846 --> 00:40:13,573
? I keep looking back
903
00:40:13,606 --> 00:40:15,364
? 'Cause I found it
904
00:40:15,382 --> 00:40:17,253
? I keep looking back
905
00:40:17,285 --> 00:40:18,565
? And you tease it
906
00:40:18,582 --> 00:40:21,813
? I keep looking back
for love ?
907
00:40:55,537 --> 00:40:57,952
All I know is being
in front of the camera,
908
00:40:57,985 --> 00:41:00,160
and in my industry,
909
00:41:00,193 --> 00:41:04,096
it's not always
the most glamorous images.
910
00:41:05,013 --> 00:41:06,733
I'm not always doing things
911
00:41:06,804 --> 00:41:13,162
that I feel is flattering
or appealing in any way.
912
00:41:15,148 --> 00:41:17,850
So it's a little difficult
sometimes
913
00:41:18,888 --> 00:41:22,865
to, you know, just be
an object to someone.
914
00:41:23,874 --> 00:41:26,193
Gradually going into
the adult industry
915
00:41:26,226 --> 00:41:28,545
was fairly easy for me.
916
00:41:28,577 --> 00:41:30,689
I was a bit timid,
you know, at first
917
00:41:30,722 --> 00:41:35,073
and I wasn't as comfortable
with my body as I am now.
918
00:41:35,106 --> 00:41:37,025
But as I grew, you know,
919
00:41:37,058 --> 00:41:40,096
it just became who I am,
you know.
920
00:41:40,911 --> 00:41:43,630
I was always comfortable
in my own skin.
921
00:41:43,663 --> 00:41:48,270
But I feel, like,
comfortable in my own body
922
00:41:48,303 --> 00:41:49,582
is a little bit different.
923
00:41:49,631 --> 00:41:54,494
I felt like I really
knew myself sexually.
924
00:41:54,527 --> 00:41:57,373
I was releasing things
that I'd never done before,
925
00:41:57,391 --> 00:41:59,917
feeling things
I'd never done before.
926
00:42:00,043 --> 00:42:02,971
And it was exciting.
It was intriguing.
927
00:42:03,073 --> 00:42:05,121
Being sensual
is like the beginnings
928
00:42:05,170 --> 00:42:09,865
that give you the butterflies
or the goosebumps.
929
00:42:10,983 --> 00:42:13,030
You know,
almost like a first date.
930
00:42:13,063 --> 00:42:16,950
The sensuality just, like,
gets you excited for the sex.
931
00:42:29,414 --> 00:42:32,502
I was shy about porn
and my sexuality.
932
00:42:32,551 --> 00:42:34,822
I hated on girls like that,
933
00:42:35,444 --> 00:42:37,891
girls that embraced
their sexuality
934
00:42:37,940 --> 00:42:40,178
and women that flaunted it
935
00:42:40,212 --> 00:42:43,811
or women that could watch
porn with their husbands.
936
00:42:43,860 --> 00:42:46,003
I was, like, ugh, how gross.
937
00:42:46,020 --> 00:42:48,755
And then once
I started embracing that
938
00:42:48,788 --> 00:42:50,585
and finding out
what I like,
939
00:42:50,726 --> 00:42:54,484
it wasn't
just about him anymore.
940
00:42:54,838 --> 00:43:00,406
Sexuality is the way
I would express myself
941
00:43:00,439 --> 00:43:06,086
and sensuality
is how I feel on the inside.
942
00:43:07,006 --> 00:43:12,914
Yeah, I think that's
how I differ the two.
943
00:43:13,008 --> 00:43:14,575
Sensuality and sexuality
944
00:43:14,608 --> 00:43:18,879
are just two tremendously
different topics.
945
00:43:18,896 --> 00:43:21,455
I know that my life in
the industry through myself,
946
00:43:21,488 --> 00:43:22,814
through my fans,
947
00:43:22,848 --> 00:43:25,759
through other people
that I've watched, met,
948
00:43:25,776 --> 00:43:28,479
and learned from,
I've grown to understand
949
00:43:28,496 --> 00:43:30,135
there's
so many different levels
950
00:43:30,172 --> 00:43:33,931
of how you can show your
sexuality to the world.
951
00:43:35,768 --> 00:43:39,374
I think the more women
own their sexuality,
952
00:43:39,460 --> 00:43:41,432
the more the world's
going to be equal,
953
00:43:41,457 --> 00:43:44,480
the more there's going
to be a level of humanity,
954
00:43:44,513 --> 00:43:49,279
because when you're told that
if you have these parts,
955
00:43:49,297 --> 00:43:50,925
you can only be this
956
00:43:50,996 --> 00:43:53,475
and if you have these parts,
you can have this,
957
00:43:53,524 --> 00:43:55,507
then you're segregated still
958
00:43:55,524 --> 00:43:59,187
and there's not
an equal playing field.
959
00:43:59,402 --> 00:44:00,713
So I don't think it's bad
960
00:44:00,746 --> 00:44:03,160
for women to completely
take back their sexuality.
961
00:44:03,194 --> 00:44:04,553
And if it's a pendulum
962
00:44:04,602 --> 00:44:07,161
where it's swinging
from one end to the other,
963
00:44:07,194 --> 00:44:10,393
it's gonna eventually
land in the middle.
964
00:44:12,283 --> 00:44:15,290
Obviously, I have moments
where, you know,
965
00:44:15,323 --> 00:44:17,160
perhaps something
will get under my skin.
966
00:44:17,210 --> 00:44:18,440
I'm human, you know.
967
00:44:18,490 --> 00:44:20,543
I think it's human
to doubt yourself
968
00:44:20,848 --> 00:44:24,671
and I think that if you
never sit and self-reflect,
969
00:44:24,688 --> 00:44:27,439
you know, you probably need
to reprioritize.
970
00:44:27,488 --> 00:44:29,407
I do doubt myself
from time to time,
971
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,550
but I don't know
if it's 'cause
972
00:44:31,568 --> 00:44:34,910
I just gave up trying
to fit a mold
973
00:44:34,928 --> 00:44:36,991
of what, like, society
wants me to be.
974
00:44:39,057 --> 00:44:40,993
You see a lot of,
like, bravado
975
00:44:41,026 --> 00:44:44,465
and, like, a false sense
of importance with girls.
976
00:44:46,418 --> 00:44:47,664
Rule of thumb was always
977
00:44:47,697 --> 00:44:49,393
that I didn't want to do
anything on camera
978
00:44:49,426 --> 00:44:51,393
that I've never done
in my personal life.
979
00:44:51,426 --> 00:44:55,585
I've watched so many girls
do their first anal scene
980
00:44:56,031 --> 00:44:58,334
because they got offered
a little bit more money for it
981
00:44:58,351 --> 00:44:59,630
and they were gonna do it
on camera
982
00:44:59,663 --> 00:45:01,533
or their first DP
or their first gang bang.
983
00:45:01,551 --> 00:45:03,470
And I think to myself,
when I'm older
984
00:45:03,551 --> 00:45:05,150
and I'm looking back
at my life,
985
00:45:05,183 --> 00:45:09,353
do I want to remember all
of those experiences that way?
986
00:45:09,494 --> 00:45:11,669
I came in
wanting to be vulnerable
987
00:45:11,701 --> 00:45:13,906
and wanting to be honest
988
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:18,751
and share the person
outside of just the body
989
00:45:18,784 --> 00:45:20,222
doing things onscreen.
990
00:45:20,255 --> 00:45:23,343
And I wanted to bring that
entire personality to it.
991
00:45:23,392 --> 00:45:24,591
I mean, I was a shy kid.
992
00:45:24,623 --> 00:45:26,690
I couldn't give
a book report in class.
993
00:45:26,729 --> 00:45:29,977
I would stutter
and get red and shake.
994
00:45:30,010 --> 00:45:31,540
I was too nervous.
995
00:45:32,377 --> 00:45:34,104
And that's actually
one thing
996
00:45:34,138 --> 00:45:35,977
I can really thank
the adult industry for.
997
00:45:36,010 --> 00:45:38,056
I needed help socially
opening up
998
00:45:38,089 --> 00:45:41,496
and taking risks and
putting myself out there.
999
00:45:41,545 --> 00:45:43,368
And so now I've gone
from the kid
1000
00:45:43,386 --> 00:45:44,665
who can't stand up
in front of class
1001
00:45:44,698 --> 00:45:46,985
to a porn star
who can host award shows
1002
00:45:47,018 --> 00:45:48,105
and go on television
1003
00:45:48,138 --> 00:45:49,945
and answer
the most intimate, personal,
1004
00:45:50,026 --> 00:45:55,422
almost offensive questions,
and it doesn't even faze me.
1005
00:45:55,500 --> 00:45:57,604
It's like being
a superhero.
1006
00:45:57,745 --> 00:46:01,311
It really helps to have
a stage name, of course.
1007
00:46:01,345 --> 00:46:03,983
This is better to sell.
1008
00:46:05,461 --> 00:46:08,692
It can become a brand,
1009
00:46:09,528 --> 00:46:14,537
but it also helps because
when you build a character,
1010
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:19,895
you give yourself another chance
to have a second life.
1011
00:46:20,742 --> 00:46:26,044
We look at the world
and we think we know
1012
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,065
what the world wants to see
1013
00:46:28,112 --> 00:46:31,318
and then we project that
into our personalities.
1014
00:46:31,435 --> 00:46:34,474
So I have Ash on set
doing my movies
1015
00:46:35,034 --> 00:46:38,681
and she's a million and one
times less censored
1016
00:46:38,714 --> 00:46:40,312
than, you know,
1017
00:46:40,361 --> 00:46:42,505
Ash out to eat at dinner
in Hollywood.
1018
00:46:44,973 --> 00:46:47,277
I guess she's someone
that I had to invent
1019
00:46:47,310 --> 00:46:52,212
to separate myself from
being in the Fantasyland,
1020
00:46:52,259 --> 00:46:56,275
being in Neverland
or being in the real world
1021
00:46:56,308 --> 00:46:58,083
where you kind of
have to be an adult
1022
00:46:58,111 --> 00:47:00,446
and, you know, be practical,
1023
00:47:00,798 --> 00:47:03,084
'cause Asphxia
is not practical at all.
1024
00:47:03,119 --> 00:47:05,678
She's very much...
she's just insane,
1025
00:47:06,260 --> 00:47:11,282
but you have to have, you know,
a balance of the two.
1026
00:47:11,299 --> 00:47:12,658
I'm glad.
1027
00:47:12,692 --> 00:47:14,819
In a lot of ways,
I feel Asphxia saved my life
1028
00:47:14,852 --> 00:47:18,467
because she's helped me
come out of my shell
1029
00:47:18,500 --> 00:47:22,131
and I feel like I don't care
if I make an ass of myself
1030
00:47:22,163 --> 00:47:24,851
or, you know,
act inappropriate
1031
00:47:24,876 --> 00:47:26,997
because
I won't feel shameful
1032
00:47:27,075 --> 00:47:29,281
because Asphxia
doesn't feel shameful.
1033
00:47:29,314 --> 00:47:30,689
Well, I am.
1034
00:47:30,723 --> 00:47:34,081
The other half of me would
never do anything like that.
1035
00:47:34,114 --> 00:47:36,993
I really don't think
it's quite hit me yet
1036
00:47:37,010 --> 00:47:38,753
that I'm a porn star.
1037
00:47:38,771 --> 00:47:41,809
See, I even make a bizarre
face when I say that.
1038
00:47:42,181 --> 00:47:43,540
Porn star? Am I?
1039
00:47:43,572 --> 00:47:46,947
In this industry, everyone
has two names most times,
1040
00:47:46,981 --> 00:47:51,156
so very clichรฉ,
and I didn't want that.
1041
00:47:51,339 --> 00:47:52,571
My agent was like, you know,
1042
00:47:52,603 --> 00:47:54,139
you have to have
a last name.
1043
00:47:54,219 --> 00:47:56,059
He's, like, why don't you
use Alexis Texas
1044
00:47:56,091 --> 00:47:57,658
because you're from Texas?
1045
00:47:58,304 --> 00:48:01,870
And at first, I found it
very kind of silly
1046
00:48:02,399 --> 00:48:04,229
and I didn't think
it was very sexy.
1047
00:48:04,253 --> 00:48:07,420
But I know I also didn't
want to be a Love or a Sky
1048
00:48:07,452 --> 00:48:09,452
or just the typical
porno names.
1049
00:48:10,193 --> 00:48:14,063
Even though as much as
Alexis Texas is a persona,
1050
00:48:14,112 --> 00:48:16,991
it's still, like I said,
a part of Alexis.
1051
00:48:17,025 --> 00:48:19,103
And, you know,
I've made that character
1052
00:48:19,136 --> 00:48:20,304
who I want it to be,
1053
00:48:20,353 --> 00:48:21,824
who I knew people would like
1054
00:48:21,857 --> 00:48:23,151
or the things
that people like.
1055
00:48:23,185 --> 00:48:26,624
And I still, you know, am
perfecting that character.
1056
00:48:27,499 --> 00:48:30,426
I've always been Nina,
you know.
1057
00:48:30,474 --> 00:48:32,457
And even
when I'm on sets,
1058
00:48:32,475 --> 00:48:35,786
I usually have people
address me by my real name.
1059
00:48:35,818 --> 00:48:37,993
I find it weird
to respond to Brooklyn
1060
00:48:38,027 --> 00:48:40,425
and sometimes there's
a lag in my response
1061
00:48:40,458 --> 00:48:41,914
when my name is called
1062
00:48:41,946 --> 00:48:45,332
'cause I don't realize
people are talking to me.
1063
00:48:45,356 --> 00:48:48,356
I think I probably just
chose the stage name
1064
00:48:48,381 --> 00:48:51,068
'cause that's what
people do, you know.
1065
00:48:52,323 --> 00:48:54,114
There is a difference
1066
00:48:54,131 --> 00:48:57,443
between people that are
just working actors in porn
1067
00:48:57,475 --> 00:49:01,475
and then people that
are porn stars, I guess.
1068
00:49:01,492 --> 00:49:06,434
They see themselves as
a movie star or a rock star,
1069
00:49:07,402 --> 00:49:10,633
somebody that's, like,
bigger than life, you know,
1070
00:49:10,666 --> 00:49:12,953
instead of just
this is your job, you know,
1071
00:49:12,985 --> 00:49:14,440
and you just do it as a job,
1072
00:49:14,474 --> 00:49:16,808
and when you go home,
you're, like, your normal self.
1073
00:49:16,842 --> 00:49:19,800
I think sometimes
they actually transform
1074
00:49:19,833 --> 00:49:22,712
into these characters
that they create.
1075
00:49:23,450 --> 00:49:26,082
Civilians,
they don't understand.
1076
00:49:26,380 --> 00:49:27,788
That's why we call you
civilians,
1077
00:49:27,820 --> 00:49:29,227
because you're different.
You don't understand.
1078
00:49:29,260 --> 00:49:30,635
You're not us.
1079
00:49:30,669 --> 00:49:32,584
You don't understand
the risks that we take.
1080
00:49:32,615 --> 00:49:34,341
You don't understand the things
that we've gone through
1081
00:49:34,376 --> 00:49:35,495
to be where we are.
1082
00:49:35,544 --> 00:49:36,662
You don't understand
the ridicule
1083
00:49:36,696 --> 00:49:39,015
that the civilians give us,
you know.
1084
00:49:39,064 --> 00:49:41,574
I mean, we have fans.
We have fans that love us.
1085
00:49:41,623 --> 00:49:44,054
But we have people
who hate us and spit on us.
1086
00:49:44,087 --> 00:49:46,503
We use the term civilian
1087
00:49:46,535 --> 00:49:48,775
as somebody basically
who doesn't do porn
1088
00:49:48,824 --> 00:49:52,103
or, you know, isn't involved
in the adult world.
1089
00:49:52,768 --> 00:49:55,712
And they don't think
the same way, you know, we do.
1090
00:49:55,744 --> 00:49:57,839
Like, sex and our body parts
1091
00:49:57,857 --> 00:49:59,279
and the things
that happen to our bodies
1092
00:49:59,296 --> 00:50:00,559
are part of our everyday life
1093
00:50:00,577 --> 00:50:01,936
and we're not afraid
to talk about it.
1094
00:50:01,968 --> 00:50:04,175
It's hard to say that
we're different people
1095
00:50:04,209 --> 00:50:05,647
because it's really not.
1096
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,768
It's just I'm willing
to put my sex life on camera
1097
00:50:08,801 --> 00:50:11,007
and talk about it,
and you're not.
1098
00:50:11,544 --> 00:50:13,531
We're not that different,
and that's the point.
1099
00:50:13,556 --> 00:50:15,316
We have no filter.
1100
00:50:15,349 --> 00:50:17,236
There you go.
Civilians have filters.
1101
00:50:17,269 --> 00:50:19,156
We don't have any.
1102
00:50:19,189 --> 00:50:22,386
Sometimes people go,
oh, so what you do?
1103
00:50:22,411 --> 00:50:24,148
I'm, like, I act and model.
1104
00:50:24,180 --> 00:50:25,908
What movies
have you been in?
1105
00:50:25,956 --> 00:50:27,428
Who do you model for?
And I'm, like, mmm,
1106
00:50:27,477 --> 00:50:33,075
it's, like, naughty modeling,
and they go, oh.
1107
00:50:34,042 --> 00:50:36,729
We have real feelings
and personalities.
1108
00:50:36,763 --> 00:50:37,849
We are real people.
1109
00:50:37,882 --> 00:50:39,001
Just because
you don't like me
1110
00:50:39,050 --> 00:50:40,233
or you don't like what I do,
1111
00:50:40,251 --> 00:50:42,250
don't come at me,
like, you know,
1112
00:50:42,282 --> 00:50:44,122
snobby or bitchy, you know.
1113
00:50:44,170 --> 00:50:45,450
Just because I do porn
1114
00:50:45,482 --> 00:50:48,233
doesn't mean that I'm just
a filthy, disgusting person.
1115
00:50:48,250 --> 00:50:49,561
We're probably a lot cleaner
1116
00:50:49,610 --> 00:50:51,289
than some of the civilians
out there,
1117
00:50:51,322 --> 00:50:54,195
and it baffles me the way
that we get treated.
1118
00:50:54,368 --> 00:50:56,223
I've had
a couple people, like,
1119
00:50:56,257 --> 00:50:58,176
"Go back from
where you come from."
1120
00:50:58,208 --> 00:50:59,344
I'm, like,
where do I come from?
1121
00:50:59,376 --> 00:51:01,183
Am I a different breed
or something?
1122
00:51:01,216 --> 00:51:04,655
Actually, I had a girl
throw me a Bible at me.
1123
00:51:04,689 --> 00:51:06,367
Honestly,
it was kind of funny.
1124
00:51:06,384 --> 00:51:08,447
I'm not gonna lie.
I kind of laughed.
1125
00:51:08,464 --> 00:51:09,887
But I was, like,
just because
1126
00:51:09,905 --> 00:51:12,464
I choose to do something
that you don't agree with,
1127
00:51:12,496 --> 00:51:15,215
you know, one,
how do you know who I am
1128
00:51:15,618 --> 00:51:17,735
'cause that obviously means
you watched it
1129
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:19,733
or you knew me somehow.
1130
00:51:19,774 --> 00:51:22,556
But it never made me regret.
I was, like, you know,
1131
00:51:22,573 --> 00:51:26,764
it just made me start hating
how judgmental people are.
1132
00:51:26,813 --> 00:51:29,533
I never, ever regretted
anything I've done.
1133
00:51:29,565 --> 00:51:31,724
Like, I love it so much,
you know.
1134
00:51:31,773 --> 00:51:32,956
Otherwise I wouldn't do it.
1135
00:51:32,974 --> 00:51:35,293
I feel like I have
an elegance in me
1136
00:51:35,325 --> 00:51:39,964
and, I don't know,
like, a beauty
1137
00:51:39,997 --> 00:51:43,404
in the filthy things
that I do.
1138
00:51:44,324 --> 00:51:46,595
And I've been
very promiscuous
1139
00:51:46,628 --> 00:51:47,763
my whole entire life.
1140
00:51:47,796 --> 00:51:49,155
That's just
the way I am.
1141
00:51:49,188 --> 00:51:51,843
I've never been called
a slut or a dirty whore.
1142
00:51:51,877 --> 00:51:53,475
Maybe on the DVDs.
1143
00:51:53,508 --> 00:51:54,915
You know how it is
in the industry.
1144
00:51:54,948 --> 00:51:56,884
But in real life,
I've never been...
1145
00:51:56,916 --> 00:51:59,764
and even now,
my friends look at me
1146
00:51:59,796 --> 00:52:01,316
and I can see
in a very classy way
1147
00:52:01,348 --> 00:52:02,563
I'm never looked at.
1148
00:52:02,628 --> 00:52:05,075
So beauty and filth
is the balance
1149
00:52:05,157 --> 00:52:08,227
between the beautiful
woman that I am
1150
00:52:08,245 --> 00:52:10,307
and the filthy whore.
1151
00:52:47,450 --> 00:52:48,697
I've loved what I do
1152
00:52:48,730 --> 00:52:50,927
ever since the first time
I stepped on film.
1153
00:52:50,952 --> 00:52:53,190
Nothing could have taught me
what I've learned in porn.
1154
00:52:53,224 --> 00:52:57,350
In college, there is
no class for that.
1155
00:52:57,399 --> 00:53:00,039
So I'm kind of getting
everything I need
1156
00:53:00,071 --> 00:53:01,638
to feel fulfilled from porn.
1157
00:53:01,671 --> 00:53:04,070
If it's not giving it
to me directly,
1158
00:53:04,119 --> 00:53:05,510
it's financing it
1159
00:53:05,559 --> 00:53:07,319
or it's sending me off
to weird countries
1160
00:53:07,383 --> 00:53:12,598
where I run into the most
amazing things I've ever seen.
1161
00:53:45,206 --> 00:53:48,150
I have to say, I thought
when I got in the business,
1162
00:53:48,182 --> 00:53:50,709
there was going to be platters
of cocaine everywhere
1163
00:53:50,742 --> 00:53:54,437
and champagne and drinking
and all that stuff.
1164
00:53:54,471 --> 00:53:56,438
And it wasn't at all
like that.
1165
00:53:56,470 --> 00:53:59,221
It was makeup on set
at 7 A.M.
1166
00:53:59,238 --> 00:54:00,838
And we did features
in the nineties.
1167
00:54:00,918 --> 00:54:04,870
We didn't have gonzo, so you
were on set 16 hours a day.
1168
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:07,524
You had your dialogue,
1169
00:54:07,564 --> 00:54:09,403
you were there
all day long working.
1170
00:54:09,436 --> 00:54:11,115
So it was
a lot of difference.
1171
00:54:11,148 --> 00:54:12,875
I kind of actually wish
1172
00:54:12,916 --> 00:54:14,654
there was
a little more party,
1173
00:54:14,686 --> 00:54:17,677
but it wasn't
at all like that.
1174
00:54:18,121 --> 00:54:21,721
When I was 18,
probably about 18 to 20,
1175
00:54:21,753 --> 00:54:23,704
I was making
more gonzo movies,
1176
00:54:23,721 --> 00:54:25,640
which are just straight sex,
1177
00:54:25,673 --> 00:54:27,881
wham-bam-
thank-you-ma'am type,
1178
00:54:27,913 --> 00:54:30,120
not really
high-end production.
1179
00:54:30,153 --> 00:54:32,312
Well, I love to be choked.
I love to be slapped.
1180
00:54:32,361 --> 00:54:35,752
I love to spit.
I love to smack girls.
1181
00:54:35,801 --> 00:54:36,920
I love to...
I am dirty.
1182
00:54:36,953 --> 00:54:38,200
Just 'cause I look like this
1183
00:54:38,233 --> 00:54:41,304
doesn't mean
that I don't get crazy.
1184
00:54:41,321 --> 00:54:42,920
That's what I like to do
sexually.
1185
00:54:42,953 --> 00:54:47,064
Just 'cause that's taboo to
what everybody wants to think,
1186
00:54:48,671 --> 00:54:51,262
in my world I guarantee you
1187
00:54:51,303 --> 00:54:55,383
80% of people sexually
have been choked or smacked
1188
00:54:55,415 --> 00:54:57,445
or hit or got a little rough
in their life.
1189
00:54:57,464 --> 00:55:00,054
They're just afraid
to say that it's okay.
1190
00:55:00,103 --> 00:55:02,582
So for whatever reason,
you know,
1191
00:55:02,616 --> 00:55:04,294
the people that have
decided to speak up
1192
00:55:04,327 --> 00:55:08,023
have pointed out that maybe
that's, you know, wrong
1193
00:55:08,055 --> 00:55:10,246
when it's really not.
It's really not.
1194
00:55:10,296 --> 00:55:11,814
I guess it really comes down
1195
00:55:11,846 --> 00:55:14,246
to people are just afraid
to express themselves
1196
00:55:14,263 --> 00:55:19,094
and they want to pick on
the ones that can.
1197
00:55:20,104 --> 00:55:22,439
But then sometimes
it'll be, like, times
1198
00:55:22,473 --> 00:55:25,527
when the guy will want to call
you, like, really dirty names
1199
00:55:25,622 --> 00:55:28,357
and I'm terrible for it,
1200
00:55:28,498 --> 00:55:30,352
because a lot of my fans
like me to say,
1201
00:55:30,385 --> 00:55:32,737
"Oh, come fuck me,
you dirty bastard."
1202
00:55:33,216 --> 00:55:36,031
But if a guy suddenly
wanted to turn around to me
1203
00:55:36,066 --> 00:55:39,632
and say, like, "Get down on
your knees, you dirty bitch,
1204
00:55:39,665 --> 00:55:41,200
and suck my cock,"
1205
00:55:41,544 --> 00:55:44,279
I don't know whether I could
let him get away with it.
1206
00:55:45,119 --> 00:55:50,512
If you want to enjoy porn,
never go to a porn set
1207
00:55:50,583 --> 00:55:54,982
because if you actually saw
what went on to make that movie,
1208
00:55:55,031 --> 00:55:59,142
you would probably never
jerk off to it again.
1209
00:55:59,191 --> 00:56:00,790
When we film,
it is mechanical
1210
00:56:00,823 --> 00:56:04,534
because you are going
from position A to B to C.
1211
00:56:05,298 --> 00:56:06,769
You're stopping in between.
1212
00:56:06,810 --> 00:56:09,332
You're not trying to catch
smooth transitions.
1213
00:56:09,364 --> 00:56:11,444
I thought, you know, there was
the chance when I flew out here
1214
00:56:11,492 --> 00:56:15,363
that I would be shooting in
some overweight guy's basement.
1215
00:56:15,396 --> 00:56:16,515
You know what I mean?
1216
00:56:16,532 --> 00:56:18,754
And for the most part,
you know,
1217
00:56:18,773 --> 00:56:21,971
the shoots that I've been on
have been pretty professional.
1218
00:56:22,497 --> 00:56:24,544
We have sex on camera.
1219
00:56:24,857 --> 00:56:26,535
When you're
behind the scenes,
1220
00:56:26,562 --> 00:56:27,921
it's not that glamorous.
1221
00:56:27,970 --> 00:56:30,129
I mean,
the finished product is
1222
00:56:30,162 --> 00:56:32,512
and, yes,
we please our customers,
1223
00:56:32,531 --> 00:56:35,121
but when we're filming it,
it's not always that way.
1224
00:56:35,170 --> 00:56:38,369
So it's very much when
people look down on it,
1225
00:56:38,402 --> 00:56:40,562
you're, like, it actually
wasn't as easy
1226
00:56:40,610 --> 00:56:43,083
and as much fun as
you think it is, you know.
1227
00:56:43,108 --> 00:56:44,613
So you're judging something
1228
00:56:44,645 --> 00:56:46,387
when you haven't even
been on set.
1229
00:56:46,404 --> 00:56:47,524
You don't know
all the hardships,
1230
00:56:47,556 --> 00:56:50,915
and it's really hard
for the men.
1231
00:56:51,744 --> 00:56:53,668
It's more of a job
for the men
1232
00:56:53,693 --> 00:56:57,311
because they have to
keep going no matter what.
1233
00:57:01,466 --> 00:57:03,722
You know, if I could be
in this industry forever,
1234
00:57:03,755 --> 00:57:05,034
I would be fine with that.
1235
00:57:05,083 --> 00:57:07,802
And then just independently,
you know, you know,
1236
00:57:07,835 --> 00:57:09,562
continue in the pursuit
of knowledge
1237
00:57:09,595 --> 00:57:12,122
and go to school
just for the sake of doing it.
1238
00:57:12,155 --> 00:57:13,466
But, unfortunately,
I don't think
1239
00:57:13,483 --> 00:57:14,922
that that's where
we're headed
1240
00:57:14,955 --> 00:57:17,482
with, you know, the piracy
1241
00:57:17,515 --> 00:57:20,154
and the economy
being such an issue.
1242
00:57:21,486 --> 00:57:24,093
I don't know
that this will last
1243
00:57:24,142 --> 00:57:26,764
for more than five years.
1244
00:57:26,782 --> 00:57:28,493
I definitely don't think so.
1245
00:57:28,525 --> 00:57:31,186
It does definitely raise
the question in my mind,
1246
00:57:31,256 --> 00:57:34,813
like, shit, did I maybe
jump into this
1247
00:57:36,025 --> 00:57:37,624
and did I fuck myself?
1248
00:57:37,687 --> 00:57:39,960
I don't know.
No pun intended.
1249
00:57:40,015 --> 00:57:41,774
I don't think
I would have done well
1250
00:57:41,807 --> 00:57:44,526
being in this industry
when I was younger.
1251
00:57:45,045 --> 00:57:48,308
I don't think I was
as strong a person,
1252
00:57:48,341 --> 00:57:50,964
and I don't know.
1253
00:57:50,997 --> 00:57:53,988
I just wasn't
as confident in myself
1254
00:57:54,545 --> 00:57:56,448
and I think
I would have ended up
1255
00:57:56,465 --> 00:57:57,760
being one of them
young girls
1256
00:57:57,793 --> 00:57:59,984
that gets manipulated.
1257
00:58:00,017 --> 00:58:03,184
If you asked me where
the girls of 2005 were,
1258
00:58:03,217 --> 00:58:04,336
they're gone.
1259
00:58:04,385 --> 00:58:05,584
Nobody knows them.
1260
00:58:05,617 --> 00:58:07,008
The girls now
1261
00:58:07,834 --> 00:58:10,366
don't even know
the porn stars of my era
1262
00:58:10,421 --> 00:58:12,260
and eventually
they will fade away.
1263
00:58:12,293 --> 00:58:14,626
You won't be needed anymore.
1264
00:58:14,728 --> 00:58:17,079
Your services
will not be needed.
1265
00:58:17,112 --> 00:58:19,287
You will be
what they call shot-out
1266
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:23,602
and they will move on
to the next girls.
1267
00:58:23,759 --> 00:58:25,066
One time I did a scene
1268
00:58:25,091 --> 00:58:27,051
and I felt like
I was a piece of meat,
1269
00:58:27,076 --> 00:58:29,204
like, thrown into
a lion's cage.
1270
00:58:29,253 --> 00:58:32,515
I cried after the scene
because I felt, like, so used.
1271
00:58:32,533 --> 00:58:37,332
Like, no one asked me
if I wanted to drink 12 loads
1272
00:58:37,365 --> 00:58:39,444
out of a cup with a straw.
No one asked me that.
1273
00:58:39,493 --> 00:58:42,602
They just told everybody else
1274
00:58:42,665 --> 00:58:44,313
this is what we're gonna do
and we're not gonna ask her
1275
00:58:44,346 --> 00:58:46,217
'cause they knew I wasn't
gonna want to do it.
1276
00:58:46,234 --> 00:58:47,593
But they don't
think about, like,
1277
00:58:47,626 --> 00:58:49,593
how that person's gonna feel
when they're done
1278
00:58:49,626 --> 00:58:51,065
and how that affects them
1279
00:58:51,679 --> 00:58:53,790
for the rest of their lives,
you know.
1280
00:58:55,395 --> 00:58:59,115
I always feel that people
think that porn
1281
00:58:59,217 --> 00:59:02,332
causes these girls
to have drug problems
1282
00:59:02,445 --> 00:59:04,732
and, you know,
bad influences and all that.
1283
00:59:04,757 --> 00:59:06,356
But for me, myself,
1284
00:59:06,371 --> 00:59:10,098
I did drugs previous
to entering the business
1285
00:59:10,147 --> 00:59:12,466
and it just gave me
more time and more money
1286
00:59:12,499 --> 00:59:14,146
to do more drugs.
1287
00:59:14,739 --> 00:59:19,251
So it didn't really,
you know, influence me.
1288
00:59:19,268 --> 00:59:22,899
I had already been doing it.
1289
00:59:22,932 --> 00:59:25,939
I was no longer able to work
without partying
1290
00:59:25,972 --> 00:59:28,819
and when I stopped partying,
I couldn't work,
1291
00:59:28,852 --> 00:59:32,099
so I kind of
had to say goodbye.
1292
00:59:32,443 --> 00:59:34,042
It's good to be
in the place that I am
1293
00:59:34,075 --> 00:59:35,754
where I'm comfortable
with myself
1294
00:59:35,802 --> 00:59:38,425
and I'm happy for once.
1295
00:59:39,294 --> 00:59:42,253
I have a very good life now.
1296
00:59:44,582 --> 00:59:50,308
You know, you get where
your whole life is just...
1297
00:59:50,808 --> 00:59:54,055
You have to keep this look
in order to make money
1298
00:59:54,088 --> 00:59:56,807
and it gets very difficult,
you know,
1299
00:59:56,856 --> 00:59:58,535
where if you don't have it,
1300
00:59:58,568 --> 01:00:00,407
you're not gonna be able
to make money.
1301
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:02,678
But you have to
eventually use your head,
1302
01:00:02,696 --> 01:00:05,975
and that's what my husband
helps me with.
1303
01:00:06,008 --> 01:00:09,079
You don't have
to look like this forever.
1304
01:00:11,864 --> 01:00:14,503
Lucky for me, he's in
the same line of work.
1305
01:00:14,536 --> 01:00:18,855
It's really nice
to come home to someone
1306
01:00:18,904 --> 01:00:20,279
and just complain
1307
01:00:20,312 --> 01:00:22,695
about everything that
happened through your day
1308
01:00:22,744 --> 01:00:24,903
or just come home
and be ecstatic
1309
01:00:24,936 --> 01:00:26,647
about everything
that you did in your day
1310
01:00:26,664 --> 01:00:29,046
and they're cool about it.
1311
01:00:29,789 --> 01:00:32,860
Everyone I date, like, needs
to know going in what I do,
1312
01:00:32,902 --> 01:00:34,581
and I try
to make that a point,
1313
01:00:34,614 --> 01:00:37,060
because if you're not gonna be
okay with it right off the bat,
1314
01:00:37,094 --> 01:00:38,421
you're never
gonna be okay with it.
1315
01:00:38,454 --> 01:00:41,444
Porno sex and home sex are
completely different things,
1316
01:00:41,882 --> 01:00:43,402
entirely
different situations.
1317
01:00:43,435 --> 01:00:45,242
Like, I get asked that
all the time
1318
01:00:45,275 --> 01:00:46,842
if people think that,
you know,
1319
01:00:46,875 --> 01:00:50,474
that that's, like, you know,
how we all have sex at home.
1320
01:00:50,506 --> 01:00:53,193
Like, it's not how we all
have sex at home at all.
1321
01:00:53,226 --> 01:00:55,252
It's completely different.
1322
01:00:55,463 --> 01:00:58,502
Well, you know, my man says
there is no such thing
1323
01:00:58,535 --> 01:01:00,903
as a monogamous relationship
with a porn star.
1324
01:01:00,936 --> 01:01:03,175
That's how he feels
and I feel totally opposite,
1325
01:01:03,224 --> 01:01:04,694
I'm sure, because
this is my livelihood.
1326
01:01:04,727 --> 01:01:06,487
This is my work, this is
what I do for a living.
1327
01:01:06,504 --> 01:01:10,423
And there are instances, yes,
where I enjoy myself on set.
1328
01:01:10,455 --> 01:01:11,495
I love it.
1329
01:01:11,544 --> 01:01:13,047
There are other times
where I don't enjoy it
1330
01:01:13,064 --> 01:01:14,375
and it is just work.
1331
01:01:14,424 --> 01:01:17,095
So, I mean, you have to look
at that in all aspects
1332
01:01:17,144 --> 01:01:18,951
and they don't,
and they don't understand.
1333
01:01:18,984 --> 01:01:22,865
And it messes with us
especially as a woman
1334
01:01:23,022 --> 01:01:25,420
being emotional and having
someone cheat on you
1335
01:01:25,454 --> 01:01:26,765
and hurt you in these ways
1336
01:01:26,798 --> 01:01:29,204
because this is what you do
and you're nasty.
1337
01:01:29,229 --> 01:01:31,067
Oh, my gosh,
like, are you serious?
1338
01:01:31,101 --> 01:01:32,492
It hurts your feelings.
1339
01:01:32,509 --> 01:01:34,588
So at this point, I'm almost
through with civilians
1340
01:01:34,621 --> 01:01:37,771
and I'm thinking about just
fucking with porn stars only.
1341
01:01:39,892 --> 01:01:42,371
Porn is...
you're selling a product.
1342
01:01:42,404 --> 01:01:44,371
Your person, your body,
is your product.
1343
01:01:44,420 --> 01:01:46,019
I like going to work.
It's not, like, a chore.
1344
01:01:46,052 --> 01:01:48,691
It's not like it's something
I don't want to do.
1345
01:01:49,138 --> 01:01:52,417
I love it.
1346
01:01:52,450 --> 01:01:55,776
The first thing I ever got
was chlamydia and I cried.
1347
01:01:55,810 --> 01:01:59,121
But what I looked back
and I thought was so cool
1348
01:02:00,471 --> 01:02:02,710
is that the guy
actually called me
1349
01:02:02,743 --> 01:02:04,550
and told me
on the phone, you know,
1350
01:02:04,582 --> 01:02:05,990
that his test came back
positive for it.
1351
01:02:06,023 --> 01:02:07,910
And this is before they
even tested for that.
1352
01:02:07,943 --> 01:02:09,190
He, this performer
1353
01:02:09,223 --> 01:02:11,014
would go
and get the test anyway,
1354
01:02:11,031 --> 01:02:13,829
and I thought
that was really cool.
1355
01:02:13,863 --> 01:02:18,342
And I've had gonorrhea,
you know, I have herpes.
1356
01:02:18,374 --> 01:02:20,038
Is that it?
1357
01:02:20,071 --> 01:02:21,526
Yeah, I've been lucky
enough to not get,
1358
01:02:21,559 --> 01:02:23,190
you know,
a lot of girls get HPV.
1359
01:02:23,223 --> 01:02:24,341
The guys have it, too.
1360
01:02:24,390 --> 01:02:26,096
They just don't...
you know.
1361
01:02:26,308 --> 01:02:27,571
Sometimes you have stuff
1362
01:02:27,604 --> 01:02:28,979
and you just don't know
you have it.
1363
01:02:29,012 --> 01:02:30,514
A lot of people have herpes
don't know they have it.
1364
01:02:30,580 --> 01:02:31,699
And they blame it
on porn, right?
1365
01:02:31,716 --> 01:02:33,011
Like, did you do
a full panel
1366
01:02:33,043 --> 01:02:34,098
before you got
in the business
1367
01:02:34,116 --> 01:02:35,218
and see where you're at?
1368
01:02:35,236 --> 01:02:37,027
'Cause
you can have herpes
1369
01:02:37,076 --> 01:02:39,347
and not ever have
an outbreak, you know.
1370
01:02:39,380 --> 01:02:40,691
And then
you can transfer it
1371
01:02:40,723 --> 01:02:42,515
without even having
an outbreak.
1372
01:02:42,610 --> 01:02:48,256
So I kind of just assume
most people have it.
1373
01:02:48,290 --> 01:02:51,297
Of course, in the business
when a new girl comes,
1374
01:02:51,399 --> 01:02:53,461
you don't tell her
the dark side.
1375
01:02:53,479 --> 01:02:55,398
I'm sure the same
with the modeling business
1376
01:02:55,430 --> 01:02:56,678
and everything else.
1377
01:02:56,711 --> 01:02:58,309
You're not gonna
sit there and say,
1378
01:02:58,358 --> 01:03:00,038
well, you might have an STD,
1379
01:03:00,071 --> 01:03:03,190
you're going to
definitely get an STD.
1380
01:03:03,446 --> 01:03:05,333
And there's all these factors
1381
01:03:05,367 --> 01:03:07,302
besides all the other stuff
I talked about.
1382
01:03:07,334 --> 01:03:10,166
But the health reasons,
you know,
1383
01:03:10,183 --> 01:03:13,174
if you do get something,
1384
01:03:14,066 --> 01:03:17,313
health insurance
won't even cover you.
1385
01:03:17,362 --> 01:03:19,152
You know,
a lot of these girls
1386
01:03:19,185 --> 01:03:20,993
don't have health insurance.
1387
01:03:21,881 --> 01:03:25,155
They don't go visit their
gynecologist regularly.
1388
01:03:25,233 --> 01:03:28,225
They don't know anything
that's happening down there.
1389
01:03:28,257 --> 01:03:30,784
If they do catch something,
you know,
1390
01:03:30,817 --> 01:03:32,478
it is, it's very scary.
1391
01:03:32,534 --> 01:03:34,305
And girls
come in the business
1392
01:03:34,353 --> 01:03:37,728
and when a scare happens,
it drives me crazy
1393
01:03:38,451 --> 01:03:40,641
when they all
jump on the bandwagon,
1394
01:03:40,675 --> 01:03:44,081
like, oh, my God, you mean
you can catch AIDS from this?
1395
01:03:44,115 --> 01:03:45,522
I'm, like, what do you think
1396
01:03:45,602 --> 01:03:47,202
you get paid
the big bucks for?
1397
01:03:47,235 --> 01:03:50,034
You know, stunt guys
get paid a lot of money.
1398
01:03:50,083 --> 01:03:52,513
You know why? They put
their life on the line.
1399
01:03:52,546 --> 01:03:54,322
And the same...
As soon as you start
1400
01:03:54,355 --> 01:03:57,073
having sex in this business
without a condom,
1401
01:03:57,122 --> 01:03:58,785
you're putting your life
on the line.
1402
01:03:58,803 --> 01:04:01,921
So that's why you
get paid the big bucks.
1403
01:04:02,253 --> 01:04:04,891
I know each day that I work,
I'm taking a risk.
1404
01:04:05,215 --> 01:04:07,465
I couldn't imagine
not being with someone
1405
01:04:07,490 --> 01:04:09,375
that didn't test regularly
like I do.
1406
01:04:10,305 --> 01:04:12,983
Like, it makes you
much more aware
1407
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:14,624
of what's going on
in the world.
1408
01:04:14,649 --> 01:04:16,665
When you think
about how many people
1409
01:04:16,697 --> 01:04:18,363
hook up at bars
with other people
1410
01:04:18,410 --> 01:04:19,817
and they're actually
more of a threat
1411
01:04:19,849 --> 01:04:21,240
than the adult industry are
1412
01:04:21,258 --> 01:04:23,800
to its performers
in a circle.
1413
01:04:23,818 --> 01:04:24,969
Like, if you go out
1414
01:04:25,018 --> 01:04:26,489
and have sex
with someone in a bar,
1415
01:04:26,521 --> 01:04:27,817
you don't know
where they've been.
1416
01:04:27,850 --> 01:04:29,080
You don't know what
sexual habits they have,
1417
01:04:29,097 --> 01:04:31,497
what hygiene they have.
1418
01:04:31,933 --> 01:04:33,565
But we do.
1419
01:04:33,597 --> 01:04:35,234
We know what each other
is doing.
1420
01:04:35,259 --> 01:04:37,658
We have a regimen
and we get tested.
1421
01:04:38,046 --> 01:04:40,444
So it's a lot safer
and I would hope
1422
01:04:40,477 --> 01:04:43,740
that we are promoting
safer sex to some degree.
1423
01:04:43,756 --> 01:04:46,043
The fact is, you're not
paying me to have sex.
1424
01:04:46,068 --> 01:04:47,732
You're paying me
for the right
1425
01:04:47,757 --> 01:04:50,011
to exploit that sex...
not in a bad way...
1426
01:04:50,058 --> 01:04:51,290
but you're paying me
1427
01:04:51,339 --> 01:04:52,729
for the right
to make money off of it.
1428
01:04:52,778 --> 01:04:53,962
And if you're gonna
make money off of it,
1429
01:04:53,979 --> 01:04:55,257
I'm gonna make money
off of it.
1430
01:04:55,291 --> 01:04:57,658
Otherwise, I'll have sex
behind closed doors
1431
01:04:57,690 --> 01:04:59,770
or I'll go film myself
having sex.
1432
01:04:59,818 --> 01:05:02,537
So it's more like
a fair labor thing
1433
01:05:02,571 --> 01:05:05,609
than it is I would
or wouldn't do it
1434
01:05:05,642 --> 01:05:06,970
depending on the money.
1435
01:05:07,019 --> 01:05:09,449
Porn is so dirty,
porn is so nasty, you know.
1436
01:05:09,482 --> 01:05:11,658
But porn can be so dirty
and so nasty
1437
01:05:11,690 --> 01:05:13,321
in a very sensual,
sexual way.
1438
01:05:13,339 --> 01:05:16,318
And I don't really know how
to explain how I feel about it,
1439
01:05:16,343 --> 01:05:17,783
but I belong here, baby.
1440
01:05:18,994 --> 01:05:21,028
There's always two sides
to everything.
1441
01:05:21,052 --> 01:05:22,923
Politicians get hookers
all the time
1442
01:05:22,955 --> 01:05:24,043
and they're forgiven.
1443
01:05:24,076 --> 01:05:25,567
It's normal?
That's normal?
1444
01:05:25,591 --> 01:05:28,118
We're not hiding behind
somebody's back to do it.
1445
01:05:28,352 --> 01:05:30,913
We're not sitting there
cheating on our spouses.
1446
01:05:30,938 --> 01:05:32,505
We're not breaking up
marriages.
1447
01:05:32,538 --> 01:05:35,306
Everybody that's with us
knows what we do,
1448
01:05:35,355 --> 01:05:36,426
and you watch it.
1449
01:05:36,475 --> 01:05:39,914
So, you know,
who are you to judge us?
1450
01:05:40,655 --> 01:05:42,653
This journey
has give me a chance
1451
01:05:42,686 --> 01:05:44,899
to shed light
on my own sexuality
1452
01:05:44,915 --> 01:05:47,681
and ultimately
the loss of our sensuality.
1453
01:05:48,199 --> 01:05:50,182
I believe we make judgments
on others
1454
01:05:50,216 --> 01:05:53,447
because of our own fears,
our society's ideals,
1455
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:54,967
and what has been
instilled in us
1456
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:55,959
by our forefathers.
1457
01:05:56,008 --> 01:05:58,839
So before
we make assumptions,
1458
01:05:59,307 --> 01:06:02,106
maybe we should take a look
at ourselves.
1459
01:06:02,390 --> 01:06:05,466
? Did you face
each other? ?
1460
01:06:05,490 --> 01:06:08,432
? Did you hold up
to the light? ?
1461
01:06:09,210 --> 01:06:14,184
? Did you find
another way? ?
1462
01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:19,350
? Did you feel
a little more like ?
1463
01:06:19,368 --> 01:06:22,727
? When you find
the animal? ?
1464
01:06:22,807 --> 01:06:27,047
? Did you find
another way? ?
1465
01:06:29,591 --> 01:06:32,839
? Did you face
each other? ?
1466
01:06:32,871 --> 01:06:36,423
? Did you hold up
to the light? ?
1467
01:06:36,455 --> 01:06:40,327
? Did you find
another way? ?
1468
01:06:59,711 --> 01:07:01,182
? God only knows
1469
01:07:01,684 --> 01:07:05,236
? I couldn't care
so much for ?
1470
01:07:06,868 --> 01:07:09,411
? What happened to me
1471
01:07:14,056 --> 01:07:15,494
? I only know
1472
01:07:15,527 --> 01:07:20,662
? Why I escape so much
1473
01:07:21,357 --> 01:07:25,468
? And get high for days
1474
01:07:27,981 --> 01:07:30,972
? Did you feel
a little more like ?
1475
01:07:31,005 --> 01:07:34,796
? When you find
the animal? ?
1476
01:07:34,845 --> 01:07:39,117
? Did you hide
or run away? ?
1477
01:07:42,216 --> 01:07:45,511
? Did you face each other?
1478
01:07:45,544 --> 01:07:48,902
? Did you hold up
to the love? ?
1479
01:07:48,943 --> 01:07:53,069
? Did you find
another way? ?
1480
01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:40,054
? Did you feel
a little more like ?
1481
01:08:40,072 --> 01:08:43,574
? When you find
the animal? ?
1482
01:08:43,608 --> 01:08:47,862
? Did you find
another way? ?
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