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(Exhales)
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Jane?
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(Footsteps approach)
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(Latch clinks, door rumbles)
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Hi, Lisbon.
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What are you doing?
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Uh, just working.
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Okay, well, out here
in the real world,
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we have a case.
We have to go.
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Yeah. Okay.
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Uh...
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(Rumbles)
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(Latches clinking)
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(Rumbles)
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(Clinks)
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(Lock snaps shut)
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Let's go.
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You think
you're so mysterious.
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I know
what you're doing in there.
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Oh, really? What?
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You're making a list,
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trying to figure out who it is
that you've met that's Red John.
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Not just met,
shaken hands with.
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How many people are on
that list, anyway?
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A lot.
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Got a male shooting victim.
Looks to be early 20s.
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Happened about an hour ago.
No I.D.
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(Lisbon) Who called it in?
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(Rigsby) Bartender.
We're getting a statement.
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What do the witnesses
have to say?
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Uh, not sure.
Cho's talking to them.
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Has the coroner
taken a look at him yet?
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Yeah, he's on his way.
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What... what's that on his face?
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What?
Oh, boy.
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(Gasps)
Happy anniversary!
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What's goin' on?
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Come in, everybody!
(Taps bottle)
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Ladies and gentlemen,
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ten years ago,
Teresa Lisbon
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left the San Francisco
Police Department
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to join the California Bureau
of Investigation.
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Today she is without doubt
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the rootinest, tootinest,
sharp-shootinest cop
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in the whole state
of California.
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Happy anniversary, boss.
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Hear, hear.
(Man) Whoo!
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If we could start
the music, please?
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I had no idea.
(Rigsby) Let's party!
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Congratulations, Lisbon.
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(Dance music playing)
Thank you, Ron.
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Why did you do this?
(Cell phone rings)
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It was Rigsby's idea.
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Yeah?
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Is he taking
his clothes off?
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He is.
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Oh, my God.
Uh-oh. Yeah.
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Congratulations.
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Thank you, Ray.
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Haffner. Good to see you.
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You know, I really enjoyed
when we worked together.
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We should do it again sometime.
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Oh, yeah, yeah.
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You mean when you
almost got me fired?
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Yeah, that was
a lot of fun.
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Hey, um,
can we grab lunch?
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There's just something
I wanna discuss with you.
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Yeah, sure.
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All right.
I'll call you. Jane.
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How come he doesn't like me?
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You got lunch here, you got...
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Oh, look out.
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What?
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Okay, that's enough.
Shoo. Okay?
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It was fun.
But not my butt.
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(Rapid footsteps)
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That was the office.
Homicide out in Placer County.
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The team that was supposed to
cover for us today
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can't make it out there.
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Well, I don't think we can drag
Lisbon away from this.
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Can't we cover it, Cho?
Yeah. Yeah, we can.
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Okay. Where did you
find that guy?
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That was fun.
But we're done, okay?
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Oh, yeah.
Those are nice moves.
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CBI. I'm Agent Cho,
this is Patrick Jane.
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Rick Anaya.
Chief here in Elliston.
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Good to meet you.
This way.
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The bodies were found
in a secret basement
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under the barn floor.
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(Cho) And what's with
the secret basement?
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Yeah, probably built
in the '20s
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to hide booze
during prohibition.
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My dad, who was chief
before me,
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said there used to be stills
all through these parts.
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Kids were playing
in the barn,
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found a trap door,
went in, found some bones.
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If you boys
are still in town for dinner,
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Ella's Diner
on Allen street--
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best damn chili in town.
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(Sighs)
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What's the coroner say?
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Well, right now he's guessing
they died 20, 25 years ago.
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(Patrick) Whoa.
He confirms three bodies in all.
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What is it?
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Uh, looks like
a shotgun pellet.
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Yeah, we found some of those
under the bones.
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Figured they fell out the body
as they decomposed.
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No shell casings
in here, though.
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Must have shot them
somewhere else,
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brought the bodies here.
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Anything else?
Yeah, a couple of things.
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High school class ring.
Guess it fell off one of them.
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We'll check that out.
Is that it?
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No, this .38.
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And one round's
been fired.
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Not in here,
as far as we can tell.
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You see that wire?
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On the wrist?
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See, I'm guessing
at least two of the victims
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were tied up with it.
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This is very depressing.
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I'm gonna wait outside.
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(Birds chirping)
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♪ The Mentalist 5x13 ♪
The Red Barn
Original Air Date on January 27, 2013
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== sync, corrected by elderman ==
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The Red John symbol
was on the side of the barn?
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That's weird.
Yeah.
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Must have been there
15, 20 years.
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Wonder what it means.
What did Jane say?
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Nothing.
Wouldn't talk about it.
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Okay. (Sighs)
Everybody feel as bad as I do?
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Not if you feel
like you look.
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I feel fine.
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What time did you get back
to the party last night?
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A little past 10:00.
Not that you noticed.
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Yeah. That, uh, Tequila
was a killer. (Pills rattle)
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(Pill bottle snaps shut)
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Did I, uh... (Closes drawer)
Do anything embarrassing?
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Yes.
Really? What?
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Good morning.
Thank you for the party.
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It was very thoughtful.
You're welcome.
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But I am never gonna forgive you
for that stripper.
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Where are we
with the three victims?
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Coroner says they probably
died 25 years ago, so 1988.
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Talked to
the ring manufacturer.
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They traced it back
to a Lester Bradovich
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who went
to a high school in Dixon.
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Checking him out now.
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The gun that was found near
the bodies isn't registered.
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No sign of the bullet
that was fired, either.
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But I've got techs sweeping
the area around the barn.
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Nice work.
Let me know what you find.
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She was kidding, right?
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About never forgiving?
Nope.
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How was the rest
of the party?
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Torture. That can never,
ever happen again.
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Ten years, huh?
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More, actually.
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Every year with you
counts as two.
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Ah.
Are those from the crime scene?
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Yes.
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This can't be
a coincidence, can it?
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There's no such thing.
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These murders happened ten years
before Red John was even active.
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A shotgun was never
his weapon of choice.
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True.
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Well, what happened?
How'd it get there?
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Hmm.
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They're excellent questions.
You know where to find me.
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Got a hit
on Lester Bradovich.
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He had a couple of arrests
in the mid-'80s.
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Small stuff. Possession,
drunk and disorderly.
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No record of him
after 1987.
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Family?
A brother in town,
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but here's the weird thing--
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nobody ever filed
a missing persons report on him.
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That's odd.
You and Rigsby go
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and see what
the brother has to say.
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All right.
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So what did I do last night?
Come on. I'm dying here.
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You got up on the table
and sang "Bohemian Rhapsody."
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Oh. I do a pretty good
Freddie Mercury.
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That's not so embarrassing.
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Maybe not for you.
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Gordon Bradovich?
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Yeah?
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We need to talk to you
about your brother Lester.
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Lester? Are you serious?
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(Sighs)
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You're--you're positive
it's Lester?
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We're waiting for final
confirmation from the coroner,
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but we're pretty sure, yeah.
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This is just unreal.
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When was your last contact
with your brother?
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Oh, God, uh,
sometime in the late '80s.
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So you haven't seen him
in almost 25 years,
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but you never reported him
missing. Why is that?
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We didn't think
he was missing.
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I don't understand.
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Lester had been
in a lot of trouble.
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Drugs and scrapes
with the law, and...
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then, uh,
when he was about 24,
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he--he joined with this,
uh, this group.
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A little weird, but, uh,
very strict, very disciplined.
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Seemed to straighten him out.
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He, uh, he got calmer,
stopped getting into trouble.
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And what does that have to do
with his disappearance?
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Well, after about
a year with them,
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he, uh, he came
to my dad and me,
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and he said that he had
to break off all contact
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with his biological family.
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Yeah. His group said
that this was the only way
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his true identity
could emerge.
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We were pretty hurt.
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But Lester--he was totally
matter-of-fact about it,
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had to be done.
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That was...
the last time I talked to him.
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Now you're telling me
he's been dead all this time?
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I just--I-I don't even know
what to think.
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What's the name
of the group?
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Vision.
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No.
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Visualize.
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You've heard of it?
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(Cell phone rings)
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(Lisbon) Hello?
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(Haffner) Teresa.
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Ray Haffner. I've been
looking for you.
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Hey, Ray. What's up?
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I was wondering if we could
snag that lunch today
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at 1:00
at the State House Cafe.
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Sure. You wanna tell me
what this is about?
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I'm intrigued.
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Then my plan is working.
I'll see you then.
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What does he want?
Lunch.
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Mm.
Mm.
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Mr. Jane. Agent Lisbon.
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Good to see you again.
Jason Cooper.
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Brother Cooper. Ah.
(Pats back)
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Last time, uh,
I saw you was, uh,
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when Bret Stiles had just
uncovered your plan
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to take over this place.
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I thought he would have
gutted you like a trout,
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but here you are.
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Bret's generosity
is only exceeded
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by his capacity
for forgiveness.
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Mm.
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Is Mr. stiles here?
We need to speak with him.
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Unfortunately, Bret was called
out of the country this morning.
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Convenient.
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But he asked me to answer
any question you have.
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Won't you come this way?
There's tea.
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Lester Bradovich
belonged to our church.
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I believe there's a good chance
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that all three of the bodies
you found were church members.
256
00:10:20,957 --> 00:10:22,674
Well, what makes you say that,
Mr. Cooper?
257
00:10:22,676 --> 00:10:24,393
These murders occurred in 1988.
258
00:10:24,395 --> 00:10:27,462
At that time, Visualize
owned the Elliston farm.
259
00:10:27,464 --> 00:10:29,514
Everyone who worked there
was a member of the church.
260
00:10:29,516 --> 00:10:31,183
Why did Bret Stiles
own a farm?
261
00:10:31,185 --> 00:10:32,684
He had a dream.
262
00:10:32,686 --> 00:10:36,488
He saw Visualize controlling
an agricultural empire
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00:10:36,490 --> 00:10:38,940
based on wheat,
but he wanted each of the farms
264
00:10:38,942 --> 00:10:40,909
to be a self-sustaining
bio-community.
265
00:10:40,911 --> 00:10:43,862
So they had to raise their own
vegetables and livestock.
266
00:10:43,864 --> 00:10:45,914
It was a grand vision.
267
00:10:45,916 --> 00:10:47,866
The church bought
a half-dozen farms.
268
00:10:47,868 --> 00:10:51,086
Half a dozen? All run by people
that knew nothing about farming?
269
00:10:51,088 --> 00:10:53,004
Let's just say that enthusiasm
270
00:10:53,006 --> 00:10:54,956
was a poor substitute
for expertise.
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00:10:54,958 --> 00:10:57,926
They all failed
in a year or two.
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00:10:57,928 --> 00:10:59,761
Lester Bradovich
ran the Elliston farm
273
00:10:59,763 --> 00:11:01,329
with two others--
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00:11:01,331 --> 00:11:04,516
Martin Talbot
and Allan Charney.
275
00:11:04,518 --> 00:11:08,053
That's what we have on them.
276
00:11:08,055 --> 00:11:11,273
In July of 1988, when we hadn't
had any word for some weeks,
277
00:11:11,275 --> 00:11:13,141
we sent people down
to investigate.
278
00:11:13,143 --> 00:11:15,477
They found it empty.
279
00:11:15,479 --> 00:11:18,146
We assumed that Bradovich
and the others had abandoned it.
280
00:11:18,148 --> 00:11:20,398
Why didn't you file
a missing persons report?
281
00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:23,235
They were adults.
We weren't their parents.
282
00:11:23,237 --> 00:11:25,687
We assumed they'd run off.
283
00:11:25,689 --> 00:11:30,158
Besides, we have found,
then and now,
284
00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:33,879
that the police rarely take
church complaints seriously
285
00:11:33,881 --> 00:11:35,497
when we do file them.
286
00:11:39,368 --> 00:11:42,003
But we are all horrified
by what happened.
287
00:11:42,005 --> 00:11:45,590
We'll do anything at all
to assist in your investigation.
288
00:11:45,592 --> 00:11:46,808
You have my word.
289
00:11:49,812 --> 00:11:51,880
Martin Talbot was older.
No family.
290
00:11:51,882 --> 00:11:53,598
That explains why
nobody was looking for him.
291
00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:55,734
Allan Charney
had family in Idaho.
292
00:11:55,736 --> 00:11:57,486
They did file
a missing persons report,
293
00:11:57,488 --> 00:11:58,887
but nothing ever came of it.
294
00:11:58,889 --> 00:12:01,222
There's no other information
on either one of them.
295
00:12:01,224 --> 00:12:02,657
All right,
call Charney's family
296
00:12:02,659 --> 00:12:04,392
and let them know
what happened.
297
00:12:04,394 --> 00:12:07,896
Visualize is sending down
their files on Elliston farm.
298
00:12:07,898 --> 00:12:10,448
Go through 'em.
There might be something useful.
299
00:12:10,450 --> 00:12:12,584
All right. Will do.
(Receiver clatters)
300
00:12:12,586 --> 00:12:15,587
I hate cold cases.
No evidence, no witnesses,
301
00:12:15,589 --> 00:12:16,788
and where do you start?
302
00:12:16,790 --> 00:12:19,040
Oh, it's not so bad.
You know what you need?
303
00:12:19,042 --> 00:12:20,342
A viable suspect?
304
00:12:20,344 --> 00:12:23,295
Big bowl of chili verde.
Come on. Let's go.
305
00:12:36,642 --> 00:12:37,642
Ella's Diner?
306
00:12:37,644 --> 00:12:40,445
Best damn chili in town,
I'm told.
307
00:12:40,447 --> 00:12:42,480
Please tell me
we're not here for chili.
308
00:12:42,482 --> 00:12:45,434
Of course not.
We're here to find a killer.
309
00:12:54,946 --> 00:12:56,262
What are we doing here, Jane?
310
00:12:56,764 --> 00:12:58,397
Look around.
311
00:12:58,399 --> 00:13:02,952
The collective memory of this
entire town is in this room.
312
00:13:02,954 --> 00:13:04,904
Anything that happened
in the last 50 years,
313
00:13:04,906 --> 00:13:06,689
you'll find out
about it here.
314
00:13:06,691 --> 00:13:08,557
Here you go.
Thank you.
315
00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:09,725
Lemon for your tea?
316
00:13:09,727 --> 00:13:10,726
No, thanks.
317
00:13:10,728 --> 00:13:12,077
Ma'am,
we're with the CBI.
318
00:13:12,079 --> 00:13:14,029
We're investigating
some murders
319
00:13:14,031 --> 00:13:16,198
that took place in town
20 years back.
320
00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:17,900
You mean the three bodies
in the barn?
321
00:13:17,902 --> 00:13:19,535
Yeah, I heard.
322
00:13:19,537 --> 00:13:21,871
The victims were from
a group called Visualize
323
00:13:21,873 --> 00:13:24,089
that owned the farm.
Do you know anything about that?
324
00:13:24,091 --> 00:13:26,759
All I know is that
they found three dead guys.
325
00:13:26,761 --> 00:13:28,711
Can I get you anything else?
326
00:13:28,713 --> 00:13:31,180
No, thanks.
Collective memory?
327
00:13:31,182 --> 00:13:32,715
Uh, if I may,
328
00:13:32,717 --> 00:13:34,717
who told you about
the three dead guys?
329
00:13:34,719 --> 00:13:37,486
Everybody knows.
Yes, but who told you?
330
00:13:47,447 --> 00:13:48,948
Look, I don't wanna
get anybody in trouble.
331
00:13:48,950 --> 00:13:52,902
Oh, of course. Thank you.
332
00:13:56,656 --> 00:13:58,657
Patrick Jane.
I'm with the CBI.
333
00:13:58,659 --> 00:13:59,708
What's your name?
334
00:13:59,710 --> 00:14:01,827
Miles MacCambridge. Why?
335
00:14:01,829 --> 00:14:03,475
This is my colleague,
Teresa Lisbon.
336
00:14:03,500 --> 00:14:04,113
Hi.
337
00:14:04,114 --> 00:14:05,831
You're the town gossip,
I take it?
338
00:14:05,833 --> 00:14:06,882
I am?
339
00:14:06,884 --> 00:14:10,803
Retired schoolteacher,
by the looks.
340
00:14:10,805 --> 00:14:12,287
Who's your source
on the murders?
341
00:14:12,289 --> 00:14:14,473
Former student,
I'm guessing?
342
00:14:14,475 --> 00:14:16,342
Am I in some kind of trouble?
343
00:14:16,344 --> 00:14:17,927
Possibly.
No, you're not.
344
00:14:17,929 --> 00:14:19,127
Jury's still out.
345
00:14:19,129 --> 00:14:20,596
We're investigating
the murders,
346
00:14:20,598 --> 00:14:22,348
and we'd really appreciate it
if you could tell us
347
00:14:22,350 --> 00:14:25,050
anything about that farm
that we found the bodies at.
348
00:14:25,052 --> 00:14:27,937
Oh, yeah. Well, it's--it's been
through a lot of hands.
349
00:14:27,939 --> 00:14:29,104
It's not very good land.
350
00:14:29,106 --> 00:14:31,857
No one's worked it
for at least a decade.
351
00:14:31,859 --> 00:14:33,242
What about the group,
Visualize?
352
00:14:33,244 --> 00:14:35,811
They owned the farm
back in the mid-'80s?
353
00:14:35,813 --> 00:14:38,480
Sure, I remember them.
They stuck out.
354
00:14:38,482 --> 00:14:40,833
Pretty useless as farm folk.
355
00:14:40,835 --> 00:14:43,202
How did they get along
with the other people in town?
356
00:14:43,204 --> 00:14:45,037
Were there any conflicts
that you remember?
357
00:14:45,039 --> 00:14:47,006
They mostly kept to themselves.
358
00:14:47,008 --> 00:14:50,009
I remember one person
bitching about 'em--
359
00:14:50,011 --> 00:14:51,544
a farmer named Tom Crayhew.
360
00:14:51,546 --> 00:14:53,629
Couldn't tell you
what he was upset about,
361
00:14:53,631 --> 00:14:54,997
too long ago.
362
00:14:54,999 --> 00:14:57,216
Uh, we really appreciate it.
Thank you.
363
00:14:57,218 --> 00:15:00,052
So I'm not in any trouble?
Jury's still out.
364
00:15:00,054 --> 00:15:01,303
You're fine, sir.
(Door opens)
365
00:15:01,305 --> 00:15:02,888
Looky here.
366
00:15:02,890 --> 00:15:06,025
Took me up on
my recommendation, I see?
367
00:15:06,027 --> 00:15:07,860
Tell Elena to put your check
on my tab.
368
00:15:07,862 --> 00:15:09,194
Aw, that's okay.
369
00:15:09,196 --> 00:15:12,014
Please. It's a long tab.
370
00:15:12,016 --> 00:15:14,400
Enjoy.
371
00:15:14,402 --> 00:15:16,235
(Singsongy)
You don't like him.
372
00:15:16,237 --> 00:15:18,070
(Normal voice) Former student?
Yes.
373
00:15:18,072 --> 00:15:22,157
Mean kid? Pulled on
the girls' pigtails?
374
00:15:22,159 --> 00:15:23,409
He's chief of police,
375
00:15:23,411 --> 00:15:26,295
which is a pretty
powerful position around here.
376
00:15:26,297 --> 00:15:28,047
If you'll excuse me.
377
00:15:28,049 --> 00:15:29,865
Hmm.
378
00:15:33,503 --> 00:15:35,087
Is this the stuff
from Visualize?
379
00:15:35,089 --> 00:15:37,590
Yeah, it's mostly letters
from the farm to Visualize
380
00:15:37,592 --> 00:15:39,508
asking for more help
and more money.
381
00:15:39,510 --> 00:15:41,260
And Bradovich,
Charney, and Talbot
382
00:15:41,262 --> 00:15:42,728
were the only
full-time workers.
383
00:15:42,730 --> 00:15:45,080
But Visualize was sending
temporary people all the time--
384
00:15:45,082 --> 00:15:47,349
some members,
some potential recruits.
385
00:15:47,351 --> 00:15:49,401
Their names weren't even
recorded most of the time.
386
00:15:49,403 --> 00:15:50,686
Most of the time?
387
00:15:50,688 --> 00:15:52,521
Yeah, there's one lead--
a guy named Peter Dibuono
388
00:15:52,523 --> 00:15:55,107
is listed as working at the farm
in '86 and '87.
389
00:15:55,109 --> 00:15:56,909
He might be able
to tell us something.
390
00:15:56,911 --> 00:15:58,905
I reached him on e-mail.
He's coming in to talk.
391
00:15:58,930 --> 00:15:59,579
Good.
392
00:15:59,580 --> 00:16:00,863
You and Rigsby
go to Elliston.
393
00:16:00,865 --> 00:16:02,915
Talk to a farmer
named Tom Crayhew.
394
00:16:02,917 --> 00:16:05,918
Apparently he had some sort of
beef with the Visualize farm.
395
00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:07,836
I'll be back in an hour.
Where you going?
396
00:16:07,838 --> 00:16:09,588
Lunch.
Ah.
397
00:16:09,590 --> 00:16:12,257
No, no. My hat's off.
398
00:16:12,259 --> 00:16:14,426
I-I only lasted two days
as Jane's boss.
399
00:16:14,428 --> 00:16:15,794
He nearly killed me.
400
00:16:15,796 --> 00:16:17,846
So you--you --clearly
know things that I don't.
401
00:16:17,848 --> 00:16:19,465
He is not
that hard to handle.
402
00:16:19,467 --> 00:16:22,551
Really? Seriously?
'Cause I know a couple...
403
00:16:22,553 --> 00:16:25,270
thousand people
who would disagree with that.
404
00:16:25,272 --> 00:16:27,589
So... ten years?
405
00:16:27,591 --> 00:16:29,642
People keep on saying that.
I don't know why.
406
00:16:29,644 --> 00:16:30,943
I don't feel any different.
407
00:16:30,945 --> 00:16:33,595
I'm hoping it means
you're ready for a change.
408
00:16:33,597 --> 00:16:34,897
Oh, what is that
supposed to mean?
409
00:16:34,899 --> 00:16:37,432
I'm leaving CBI.
410
00:16:37,434 --> 00:16:40,268
I've lined up some capital.
I'm starting my own firm.
411
00:16:40,270 --> 00:16:43,906
Security and investigations
for high-end clients.
412
00:16:43,908 --> 00:16:46,925
I was wondering if you'd
consider coming with me.
413
00:16:46,927 --> 00:16:48,110
Right.
414
00:16:48,112 --> 00:16:49,411
You're one of the top agents
in the division.
415
00:16:49,413 --> 00:16:50,779
Everyone knows it.
416
00:16:50,781 --> 00:16:53,165
You--you deserve a position
commensurate with your gifts.
417
00:16:53,167 --> 00:16:55,668
I am flattered, Ray,
but I like my job.
418
00:16:55,670 --> 00:16:57,219
Yeah, I like my job, too.
419
00:16:57,221 --> 00:16:59,755
I'd like it better if I'd had
a raise in the past three years.
420
00:16:59,757 --> 00:17:01,957
California's broke,
if you didn't notice.
421
00:17:01,959 --> 00:17:03,425
It's not about the money.
422
00:17:05,311 --> 00:17:07,846
That's the starting salary.
423
00:17:10,483 --> 00:17:14,603
That'll keep you in
leather jackets, I think.
424
00:17:14,605 --> 00:17:18,323
It's not about the money.
I like what I do.
425
00:17:18,325 --> 00:17:19,992
It's a good job.
It's good work.
426
00:17:19,994 --> 00:17:22,494
Is it the work,
or is it Jane?
427
00:17:22,496 --> 00:17:24,312
He's part of the work.
428
00:17:24,314 --> 00:17:27,332
Sure. And you guys--you guys
have a track record,
429
00:17:27,334 --> 00:17:29,151
I-I understand why
you wanna stick with that.
430
00:17:29,153 --> 00:17:31,870
But if there's one thing
that I've learned about Jane,
431
00:17:31,872 --> 00:17:34,289
it's that catching bad guys
is a game to him,
432
00:17:34,291 --> 00:17:36,258
and--and he's gonna
quit someday.
433
00:17:36,260 --> 00:17:38,210
Maybe because he gets
Red John,
434
00:17:38,212 --> 00:17:40,045
maybe because--what--
he just gets bored.
435
00:17:40,047 --> 00:17:41,997
When that happens,
you're gonna be on your own.
436
00:17:41,999 --> 00:17:44,850
Driving out
to some crime scene
437
00:17:44,852 --> 00:17:46,885
in the middle of nowhere
at 5:00 a.m.,
438
00:17:46,887 --> 00:17:50,389
asking Rigsby
what sort of sad story
439
00:17:50,391 --> 00:17:52,307
you gotta unravel this time.
440
00:17:55,145 --> 00:17:57,446
Is that what
you really want?
441
00:17:59,866 --> 00:18:02,201
Because I think
you deserve better.
442
00:18:02,203 --> 00:18:03,952
Think about it.
443
00:18:09,192 --> 00:18:11,160
(Shifts gears)
444
00:18:18,301 --> 00:18:19,501
Mr. Crayhew?
445
00:18:24,340 --> 00:18:27,709
Mr. Crayhew, we're with CBI.
Open up, please!
446
00:18:27,711 --> 00:18:29,211
I will not be bullied!
447
00:18:29,213 --> 00:18:30,679
Put the gun down.
448
00:18:30,681 --> 00:18:32,714
You cannot make a man
render unto Caesar
449
00:18:32,716 --> 00:18:34,650
that which he does not
choose to render.
450
00:18:34,652 --> 00:18:36,068
What?
451
00:18:36,070 --> 00:18:37,319
Sir, whatever the problem is,
452
00:18:37,321 --> 00:18:39,772
we can work it out.
Just put the gun away.
453
00:18:39,774 --> 00:18:41,723
Federal income tax
is an illegal taking
454
00:18:41,725 --> 00:18:44,243
under the Fifth Amendment of
the United States Constitution,
455
00:18:44,245 --> 00:18:45,577
and I will not pay it!
456
00:18:45,579 --> 00:18:47,079
Sir, we're not
with the I.R.S.
457
00:18:47,081 --> 00:18:47,669
Says you.
458
00:18:47,694 --> 00:18:49,199
We have nothing to do
with your taxes.
459
00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,700
We wanna talk about some
killings at a nearby farm.
460
00:18:53,586 --> 00:18:56,255
You're not federal agents?
461
00:18:56,257 --> 00:18:57,372
You're not here to collect?
462
00:18:57,374 --> 00:19:00,709
No, sir. California Bureau
of Investigation.
463
00:19:00,711 --> 00:19:03,045
Now put the gun down.
Do it now.
464
00:19:06,299 --> 00:19:09,301
Yeah, I remember
those clowns from Visualize.
465
00:19:09,303 --> 00:19:12,304
That land's
right next to mine.
466
00:19:12,306 --> 00:19:13,939
Killed everything
they--they touched.
467
00:19:13,941 --> 00:19:15,724
Plus they were thieves.
468
00:19:15,726 --> 00:19:17,309
Why thieves?
469
00:19:17,311 --> 00:19:19,928
Well, they stole
my damn water.
470
00:19:19,930 --> 00:19:21,980
I got a stream
up that way.
471
00:19:21,982 --> 00:19:23,866
They diverted it
into their fields,
472
00:19:23,868 --> 00:19:25,651
like I wouldn't notice.
473
00:19:25,653 --> 00:19:31,073
So me and my 12-gauge went
to talk it over with them.
474
00:19:31,075 --> 00:19:34,376
I told those wackadoodles
to stop stealing my water,
475
00:19:34,378 --> 00:19:36,078
and one of 'em
pulled a revolver.
476
00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,163
I thought we were gonna
have a shooting right there.
477
00:19:38,165 --> 00:19:39,614
Do you recall
what kind of revolver it was?
478
00:19:39,616 --> 00:19:40,799
Nope.
479
00:19:40,801 --> 00:19:45,838
Was one of these...
the man that threatened you?
480
00:19:50,476 --> 00:19:53,595
It was that one.
481
00:19:53,597 --> 00:19:58,433
He was wound up.
Had that look, you know?
482
00:19:58,435 --> 00:20:00,269
Just ready to go.
483
00:20:00,271 --> 00:20:02,487
I truly thought I was gonna have
to shoot him right there.
484
00:20:02,489 --> 00:20:05,807
But I didn't.
485
00:20:05,809 --> 00:20:09,611
I didn't.
I swear to God.
486
00:20:09,613 --> 00:20:12,831
But I don't condemn
whoever did shoot him, though.
487
00:20:12,833 --> 00:20:15,317
You've heard how
they treated their animals?
488
00:20:15,319 --> 00:20:16,501
No. How?
489
00:20:16,503 --> 00:20:21,206
They... tortured 'em,
basically.
490
00:20:21,208 --> 00:20:23,592
Unnatural stuff.
491
00:20:23,594 --> 00:20:25,043
Satanic ritual stuff.
492
00:20:25,045 --> 00:20:26,929
Really?
You know that for a fact?
493
00:20:26,931 --> 00:20:28,997
If you don't believe me,
talk to the Vet.
494
00:20:28,999 --> 00:20:31,049
She was on 'em all the time
495
00:20:31,051 --> 00:20:33,936
about how they were treating
their stock.
496
00:20:33,938 --> 00:20:35,837
She was ready to call
the county on 'em.
497
00:20:35,839 --> 00:20:37,806
And what's this vet's name?
498
00:20:37,808 --> 00:20:39,358
I think she retired now.
499
00:20:39,360 --> 00:20:41,560
Mm.
500
00:20:41,562 --> 00:20:43,979
Preston. That's it.
501
00:20:50,653 --> 00:20:51,904
(Jane) Hello, Lisbon.
502
00:20:51,906 --> 00:20:54,456
Are you ever gonna
let me in there again?
503
00:20:54,458 --> 00:20:55,690
How was lunch?
504
00:20:55,692 --> 00:20:58,410
Lovely.
Haffner offered me a job.
505
00:20:58,412 --> 00:21:00,045
(Latch clinks)
506
00:21:00,047 --> 00:21:02,030
(Door rumbles)
507
00:21:02,032 --> 00:21:03,382
Really?
508
00:21:03,384 --> 00:21:04,333
You gonna take it?
509
00:21:04,335 --> 00:21:05,918
Right now
I'm considering it.
510
00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,170
Come on. We have to
go talk to the Vet.
511
00:21:08,172 --> 00:21:09,087
(Rumbles)
512
00:21:09,089 --> 00:21:11,757
(Clattering)
Oh, my God.
513
00:21:11,759 --> 00:21:14,509
(Rumbles)
514
00:21:14,511 --> 00:21:15,978
(Lock snaps shut)
515
00:21:17,713 --> 00:21:20,399
(Dog barks)
516
00:21:24,354 --> 00:21:27,155
(Toy squeaks)
This one's for Doug.
517
00:21:27,157 --> 00:21:28,440
Dr. Ellen Preston?
518
00:21:28,442 --> 00:21:30,192
Oh, uh, no, I'm...
519
00:21:30,194 --> 00:21:32,945
Dr. Preston's my mom.
I'm Holly Preston.
520
00:21:32,947 --> 00:21:34,780
Holly. Pretty good
with those dogs.
521
00:21:34,782 --> 00:21:37,115
Oh, well, thanks.
I should be.
522
00:21:37,117 --> 00:21:40,085
I'm with them all day. (Dog panting)
I run a doggy day care.
523
00:21:40,087 --> 00:21:41,920
Is there something
I can do for you?
524
00:21:41,922 --> 00:21:43,338
We're with the CBI.
525
00:21:43,340 --> 00:21:45,340
We need to ask
your mother some questions.
526
00:21:45,342 --> 00:21:46,541
(Dog barks)
527
00:21:46,543 --> 00:21:47,575
Oh.
528
00:21:47,577 --> 00:21:49,577
Is that a problem?
529
00:21:49,579 --> 00:21:52,297
(Holly) She was diagnosed
with Alzheimer's
530
00:21:52,299 --> 00:21:54,349
about eight years ago.
531
00:21:54,351 --> 00:21:55,750
She still responds,
532
00:21:55,752 --> 00:21:58,353
but she's not very good at
talking to people anymore.
533
00:21:58,355 --> 00:22:00,105
I'm sorry.
534
00:22:00,107 --> 00:22:01,589
(Lisbon) Oh, don't be.
535
00:22:01,591 --> 00:22:02,808
She looks peaceful.
536
00:22:02,810 --> 00:22:05,110
She is... mostly.
537
00:22:05,112 --> 00:22:06,194
(Lisbon) You've probably heard
538
00:22:06,196 --> 00:22:08,397
we found three bodies
on a nearby farm.
539
00:22:08,399 --> 00:22:10,065
25 years ago,
the farm was owned
540
00:22:10,067 --> 00:22:13,235
by a church called Visualize.
Does that ring a bell?
541
00:22:13,237 --> 00:22:16,571
I've heard about them.
They made kind of a splash.
542
00:22:16,573 --> 00:22:19,374
Hi, little boy.
Who's a good boy?
543
00:22:19,376 --> 00:22:21,493
Yeah. Oh, he likes that.
You like that?
544
00:22:21,495 --> 00:22:24,279
Is... that what you wanted
to talk to my mom about?
545
00:22:24,281 --> 00:22:25,747
We heard
that she was concerned
546
00:22:25,749 --> 00:22:27,916
about the way some of
the animals were being treat.
547
00:22:27,918 --> 00:22:29,584
We just wanted to know
what that was about.
548
00:22:29,586 --> 00:22:32,954
Rumor has it they were
performing satanic rituals.
549
00:22:32,956 --> 00:22:35,891
What? (Sighs)
We'd heard there may have been
550
00:22:35,893 --> 00:22:38,927
some unnatural acts going on.
551
00:22:38,929 --> 00:22:41,313
Have you been talking
to Tom Crayhew?
552
00:22:41,315 --> 00:22:43,131
Why? Does it sound like him?
553
00:22:43,133 --> 00:22:45,017
Oh, exactly like him.
554
00:22:45,019 --> 00:22:48,937
I would remember if my mom
thought something was happening.
555
00:22:48,939 --> 00:22:50,489
There were no rituals.
556
00:22:50,491 --> 00:22:52,357
I think my mom
was just concerned
557
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,359
that the farm was failing.
558
00:22:54,361 --> 00:22:56,144
People take it out
on the animals
559
00:22:56,146 --> 00:22:57,079
once a place goes south.
560
00:22:57,081 --> 00:22:59,147
Did you ever go up there?
No.
561
00:22:59,149 --> 00:23:02,200
I was 16, and I was
all about boys then.
562
00:23:02,202 --> 00:23:05,337
I wouldn't go to the farm
with my mom if I could avoid it.
563
00:23:05,339 --> 00:23:07,155
Well,
all the academic achievements
564
00:23:07,157 --> 00:23:09,875
suggest you were focused
on a little more than just boys.
565
00:23:09,877 --> 00:23:12,094
Well, maybe now and then,
566
00:23:12,096 --> 00:23:16,181
but that was
a long time ago.
567
00:23:16,183 --> 00:23:18,717
Is that all you wanted
to ask about?
568
00:23:18,719 --> 00:23:20,802
Yes. Yeah.
Thank you for your time.
569
00:23:20,804 --> 00:23:23,305
Jane. Jane.
Yes. Who's that, huh?
570
00:23:23,307 --> 00:23:26,174
Is that good?
That's really good. (Chuckles)
571
00:23:26,176 --> 00:23:28,443
Jane?
That's really good.
572
00:23:33,900 --> 00:23:36,184
Agent Van Pelt?
Yes?
573
00:23:36,186 --> 00:23:38,019
Father Peter Dibuono.
You asked to see me?
574
00:23:38,021 --> 00:23:40,238
Obviously,
I haven't been a member
575
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:41,623
of Visualize for some time.
576
00:23:41,625 --> 00:23:45,193
If I were to be kind
to my younger self,
577
00:23:45,195 --> 00:23:47,362
I would say
that my time with them
578
00:23:47,364 --> 00:23:50,916
was an early stage
in a long spiritual journey.
579
00:23:50,918 --> 00:23:52,417
What if you
weren't being kind?
580
00:23:52,419 --> 00:23:54,469
I was a stupid punk
who didn't know any better.
581
00:23:54,471 --> 00:23:57,839
Bret Stiles says a lot
of things that sound good
582
00:23:57,841 --> 00:24:00,092
if you don't think
about 'em too hard.
583
00:24:00,094 --> 00:24:01,876
Some of what he says
makes sense, though.
584
00:24:01,878 --> 00:24:06,731
Yes. And there's a core of truth
in every good lie.
585
00:24:06,733 --> 00:24:08,900
All that talk
about self-actualization
586
00:24:08,902 --> 00:24:10,936
can be very, very seductive.
587
00:24:10,938 --> 00:24:13,688
Oh, it's not just seduction.
What's wrong with wanting to be
588
00:24:13,690 --> 00:24:16,108
the most powerful version
of you you can be?
589
00:24:16,110 --> 00:24:17,526
If you were a good person,
590
00:24:17,528 --> 00:24:19,361
it would just make you
an even better one.
591
00:24:19,363 --> 00:24:22,730
Well, it depends on how
you look at it, I guess.
592
00:24:22,732 --> 00:24:25,250
You wanted to ask me
about the Elliston farm?
593
00:24:25,252 --> 00:24:26,568
You worked there, right?
594
00:24:26,570 --> 00:24:30,038
No, I ran it.
From mid-'86 to late '87.
595
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,090
That was a crazy time.
596
00:24:32,092 --> 00:24:33,842
There was a lot of pressure
from Visualize
597
00:24:33,844 --> 00:24:35,177
to make that place work.
598
00:24:35,179 --> 00:24:38,013
We just didn't have
the people or the expertise.
599
00:24:38,015 --> 00:24:41,349
And that's why they brought
Bradovich in to take over.
600
00:24:41,351 --> 00:24:42,601
Lester Bradovich?
601
00:24:42,603 --> 00:24:45,720
Mm-hmm, and Lester--
he was a true believer.
602
00:24:45,722 --> 00:24:48,306
He worked people
insanely hard--
603
00:24:48,308 --> 00:24:49,691
18, 20 hours a day.
604
00:24:49,693 --> 00:24:54,029
No one lasted long except
for him, Talbot and Charney.
605
00:24:54,031 --> 00:24:58,033
After I left, um, I heard--
this is just a rumor--
606
00:24:58,035 --> 00:25:01,102
that--that Lester had been
giving people drugs
607
00:25:01,104 --> 00:25:03,538
to keep them working
when they were tired.
608
00:25:03,540 --> 00:25:04,623
What kind of drugs?
609
00:25:04,625 --> 00:25:05,991
I don't know.
I don't know.
610
00:25:05,993 --> 00:25:08,276
Speed, I would guess.
611
00:25:08,278 --> 00:25:09,828
But he must have
been desperate,
612
00:25:09,830 --> 00:25:12,247
because there were
so many ex-addicts
613
00:25:12,249 --> 00:25:13,331
in the church at that time
614
00:25:13,333 --> 00:25:16,718
that Visualize
was very strict about drugs.
615
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,386
If he couldn't get
the drugs from the church,
616
00:25:18,388 --> 00:25:19,621
where would he get 'em?
617
00:25:19,623 --> 00:25:22,224
I have no idea.
618
00:25:23,543 --> 00:25:26,428
Father Dibuono.
Uh, Patrick Jane.
619
00:25:26,430 --> 00:25:28,563
Uh, Agent Van Pelt told me
you used to work
620
00:25:28,565 --> 00:25:29,981
on the Elliston farm.
621
00:25:29,983 --> 00:25:30,965
That's right.
622
00:25:30,967 --> 00:25:33,134
May I show you something?
623
00:25:33,136 --> 00:25:34,819
Do you know what that is?
624
00:25:34,821 --> 00:25:38,073
Uh, sure.
Yeah, I saw that.
625
00:25:38,075 --> 00:25:40,492
When?
626
00:25:40,494 --> 00:25:42,077
A few months
after I left the farm,
627
00:25:42,079 --> 00:25:44,646
I, uh, I went back
for a visit,
628
00:25:44,648 --> 00:25:46,665
and that's when I saw it.
629
00:25:46,667 --> 00:25:48,700
Talbot said that some kid
who worked on the farm--
630
00:25:48,702 --> 00:25:49,834
he did it.
631
00:25:49,836 --> 00:25:51,586
"Some kid," that's all
he said about it?
632
00:25:51,588 --> 00:25:53,205
Yeah, yeah. Some kid.
633
00:25:53,207 --> 00:25:55,373
How old was Talbot?
634
00:25:55,375 --> 00:25:57,375
Uh, 50-something?
635
00:25:57,377 --> 00:26:02,997
Ah. So anyone under the age
of 30 could be "some kid".
636
00:26:02,999 --> 00:26:06,218
You know, I asked Talbot
what it meant,
637
00:26:06,220 --> 00:26:07,219
the smiley face.
638
00:26:07,221 --> 00:26:09,003
He said,
"what does anything mean?"
639
00:26:09,005 --> 00:26:10,438
Hmm.
640
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:15,843
But he said it with this really
deranged expression on his face.
641
00:26:15,845 --> 00:26:18,980
There was a bad vibe
about that place.
642
00:26:18,982 --> 00:26:21,349
Evil.
643
00:26:21,351 --> 00:26:25,120
I didn't spend
more than half an hour there,
644
00:26:25,122 --> 00:26:26,154
and I never went back.
645
00:26:26,156 --> 00:26:28,206
And you've never seen
that image
646
00:26:28,208 --> 00:26:29,857
anywhere else ever since?
647
00:26:29,859 --> 00:26:33,411
No. No. But I've been out
of the country a lot.
648
00:26:33,413 --> 00:26:37,031
Missionary work.
Central America. (Bell dings)
649
00:26:38,634 --> 00:26:40,085
Is something the matter,
Mr. Jane?
650
00:26:40,087 --> 00:26:43,505
No. No, not at all.
Appreciate your time.
651
00:26:46,309 --> 00:26:48,440
(Bell dings)
652
00:27:01,394 --> 00:27:02,795
When the murders occurred,
653
00:27:02,797 --> 00:27:05,631
Bradovich was pushing the farm
workers as hard as possible.
654
00:27:05,633 --> 00:27:07,857
They were stealing water
from neighboring farms,
655
00:27:07,957 --> 00:27:10,123
and still failing
to make the farm produce.
656
00:27:10,125 --> 00:27:12,259
How does any of that
get the three of them killed?
657
00:27:12,261 --> 00:27:13,344
Well, I checked on Crayhew.
658
00:27:13,346 --> 00:27:14,862
He spent some time
with a right-wing militia
659
00:27:14,864 --> 00:27:15,996
in the mid-'80s.
660
00:27:15,998 --> 00:27:17,164
The county sheriff
still thinks
661
00:27:17,166 --> 00:27:18,332
he's got a lot more guns
on that farm.
662
00:27:18,334 --> 00:27:19,683
(Lisbon)
It wouldn't surprise me.
663
00:27:19,685 --> 00:27:21,819
What about the forensics team
that was searching the farm?
664
00:27:21,821 --> 00:27:23,270
Did they come up
with anything?
665
00:27:23,272 --> 00:27:25,823
Nothing yet. They're still looking.
Stay on 'em.
666
00:27:25,825 --> 00:27:28,308
I'm interested in the drugs
the good father mentioned.
667
00:27:28,310 --> 00:27:29,860
He said
it was just a rumor.
668
00:27:29,862 --> 00:27:31,745
Well, if Bradovich is working
them around the clock,
669
00:27:31,747 --> 00:27:34,581
I'm betting they had
a little chemical help.
670
00:27:34,583 --> 00:27:36,033
And if they didn't get it
from Visualize,
671
00:27:36,035 --> 00:27:37,785
then where did they
get it from?
672
00:27:37,787 --> 00:27:38,702
Who knows?
673
00:27:38,704 --> 00:27:40,955
Everyone who could tell us
is dead.
674
00:27:40,957 --> 00:27:43,257
Not everyone.
675
00:27:44,509 --> 00:27:47,177
Hmm. Nope.
676
00:27:47,179 --> 00:27:49,430
Don't remember
any of 'em.
677
00:27:49,432 --> 00:27:52,299
Of course, I was just...
(Exhales) 17 at the time.
678
00:27:52,301 --> 00:27:55,719
Not likely to run
into boys like these.
679
00:27:55,721 --> 00:27:58,839
And, uh, as far
as drug deals in 1988,
680
00:27:58,841 --> 00:28:01,058
I couldn't tell you
anything about that.
681
00:28:01,060 --> 00:28:04,278
Wasn't bustin' drug dealers
quite yet.
682
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:05,195
Hmm.
683
00:28:05,197 --> 00:28:06,814
Would your office
have any record
684
00:28:06,816 --> 00:28:08,615
of drug arrests back then?
685
00:28:08,617 --> 00:28:11,068
A lot of the old files
have been archived.
686
00:28:11,070 --> 00:28:13,203
They're in some warehouse
in Fresno.
687
00:28:13,205 --> 00:28:15,205
I can send somebody
to go look,
688
00:28:15,207 --> 00:28:17,074
but it's gonna--
it's gonna take a while.
689
00:28:17,076 --> 00:28:18,575
Hmm. Could do that.
690
00:28:18,577 --> 00:28:21,378
Or you could just tell us
what drugs you sold 'em.
691
00:28:21,380 --> 00:28:23,047
(Laughs) Excuse me?
692
00:28:23,049 --> 00:28:24,715
You were dealing drugs
back then, weren't you?
693
00:28:24,717 --> 00:28:25,916
And they were clients.
694
00:28:25,918 --> 00:28:28,302
Whatever gives you the idea
that I dealt drugs?
695
00:28:28,304 --> 00:28:30,971
You're self-indulgent.
You're corrupt.
696
00:28:30,973 --> 00:28:33,140
You pretended
not to know Bradovich
697
00:28:33,142 --> 00:28:35,142
when clearly,
you recognize him.
698
00:28:35,144 --> 00:28:37,261
You knew we were gonna
talk about drugs.
699
00:28:37,263 --> 00:28:39,046
So why lie
about not selling 'em?
700
00:28:39,048 --> 00:28:40,814
Look, I'm--I'm not
sitting still for this, okay?
701
00:28:40,816 --> 00:28:43,717
You withhold information from us
during this investigation,
702
00:28:43,719 --> 00:28:45,519
it's considered
obstruction of justice.
703
00:28:45,521 --> 00:28:47,354
They'll take your badge
for that.
704
00:28:47,356 --> 00:28:49,890
You might have to start paying
for that chili verde.
705
00:28:50,742 --> 00:28:54,611
(Inhales and exhales)
706
00:28:57,582 --> 00:29:01,251
I might have dealt
a little in high school.
707
00:29:01,253 --> 00:29:03,537
Lot of people did, okay?
It wasn't no big deal.
708
00:29:03,539 --> 00:29:05,572
And by the way,
I'm pretty sure
709
00:29:05,574 --> 00:29:08,742
the statute of limitations
has expired on that.
710
00:29:08,744 --> 00:29:11,178
Did you sell drugs
to Bradovich?
711
00:29:11,180 --> 00:29:14,098
This is between us, right?
712
00:29:14,100 --> 00:29:15,749
Law officer
to law officer?
713
00:29:15,751 --> 00:29:17,250
Chief...
714
00:29:19,304 --> 00:29:22,556
He was looking for speed
to keep his people working.
715
00:29:22,558 --> 00:29:24,758
I sold him some.
716
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,528
But right away,
he came back for more.
717
00:29:27,530 --> 00:29:29,396
A lot more.
718
00:29:29,398 --> 00:29:32,099
I didn't have the kind
of quantity he wanted,
719
00:29:32,101 --> 00:29:36,403
so I put him in touch with some
serious guys I knew in Stockton.
720
00:29:36,405 --> 00:29:38,572
Scary dudes.
721
00:29:38,574 --> 00:29:40,491
Hell, maybe they killed 'em.
722
00:29:42,794 --> 00:29:46,046
I'm gonna need those names.
723
00:29:52,554 --> 00:29:55,122
Two of the drug dealers
Anaya gave us are dead.
724
00:29:55,124 --> 00:29:56,957
The other one's
on death row in Texas.
725
00:29:56,959 --> 00:29:58,942
I've got a call in
to the Department of Corrections
726
00:29:58,944 --> 00:29:59,977
to see if I can interview him.
727
00:29:59,979 --> 00:30:01,962
Oh, remember
the missing bullet
728
00:30:01,964 --> 00:30:03,897
from the gun
we found near the bodies?
729
00:30:03,899 --> 00:30:05,632
Techs finally found it.
730
00:30:05,634 --> 00:30:08,185
It was buried in the dirt
in front of the barn.
731
00:30:08,187 --> 00:30:09,903
Like somebody
had shot into the ground.
732
00:30:09,905 --> 00:30:10,971
Where outside the barn?
733
00:30:10,973 --> 00:30:12,606
Right in front
of the big painted face.
734
00:30:12,608 --> 00:30:14,024
Hmm.
735
00:30:14,026 --> 00:30:15,359
So what do you think?
736
00:30:15,361 --> 00:30:16,810
Should I go to Texas
and talk to this guy?
737
00:30:16,812 --> 00:30:19,346
By all means, take a trek
to the Lone Star state.
738
00:30:19,348 --> 00:30:22,199
But I think I can
solve this case quicker.
739
00:30:22,201 --> 00:30:23,450
How?
740
00:30:23,452 --> 00:30:25,869
Get everyone we've interviewed
to Ella's Diner
741
00:30:25,871 --> 00:30:27,304
first thing tomorrow morning.
742
00:30:27,306 --> 00:30:28,622
Well, why the diner?
743
00:30:28,624 --> 00:30:30,707
For the coffee, of course.
744
00:30:36,631 --> 00:30:38,098
Hey, Ray.
745
00:30:38,100 --> 00:30:40,851
Hey. I was, uh,
just checking in.
746
00:30:40,853 --> 00:30:42,335
Seeing if you had a chance
to think about the offer.
747
00:30:42,337 --> 00:30:44,388
I think you already know
my answer.
748
00:30:44,390 --> 00:30:46,840
You're missing out
on something big.
749
00:30:46,842 --> 00:30:48,192
I'm sure I am.
750
00:30:48,194 --> 00:30:50,611
How's the case?
You getting anywhere?
751
00:30:50,613 --> 00:30:51,862
We're making progress.
752
00:30:51,864 --> 00:30:53,313
Did you get anything from
the stuff Cooper sent down?
753
00:30:53,315 --> 00:30:55,515
No, not much.
754
00:30:55,517 --> 00:30:56,683
Hmm.
755
00:30:58,519 --> 00:31:02,706
Ray, Jason Cooper's name
isn't on that board.
756
00:31:02,708 --> 00:31:03,907
So?
757
00:31:03,909 --> 00:31:08,128
How did you know
that he sent us material?
758
00:31:08,130 --> 00:31:10,197
Someone on your team
must have told me.
759
00:31:10,199 --> 00:31:13,750
No one else knew
except myself and Jane.
760
00:31:15,854 --> 00:31:18,371
Did somebody from
the church tell you?
761
00:31:20,175 --> 00:31:21,758
Ray?
762
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,393
Are you a member
of Visualize?
763
00:31:25,563 --> 00:31:28,815
As a matter of fact, I am.
764
00:31:28,817 --> 00:31:30,217
I don't talk about it much.
765
00:31:30,219 --> 00:31:32,269
People tend to
take it the wrong way--
766
00:31:32,271 --> 00:31:34,321
the way that you're taking it
right now, I think.
767
00:31:34,323 --> 00:31:35,439
Oh, that's not true.
768
00:31:35,441 --> 00:31:36,607
Really?
769
00:31:36,609 --> 00:31:38,275
No.
770
00:31:38,277 --> 00:31:41,361
Look,
I was a screwed-up kid.
771
00:31:41,363 --> 00:31:43,330
I was headed down
a bad path,
772
00:31:43,332 --> 00:31:45,332
and some people from Visualize
took an interest
773
00:31:45,334 --> 00:31:48,035
and helped straighten me out.
774
00:31:48,037 --> 00:31:52,089
I-I-I don't think
that Bret Stiles is God.
775
00:31:52,091 --> 00:31:55,242
You know, he just happens to say
some things that I believe.
776
00:31:55,244 --> 00:31:57,761
The money to fund
your agency--
777
00:31:57,763 --> 00:31:59,046
is that coming
from Visualize?
778
00:31:59,048 --> 00:32:00,797
Some, not all.
779
00:32:00,799 --> 00:32:02,532
(Chuckles)
780
00:32:02,534 --> 00:32:04,218
(Laughs) Teresa,
stop looking at me
781
00:32:04,220 --> 00:32:05,585
like I just
turned into a robot.
782
00:32:05,587 --> 00:32:08,604
It's just me.
783
00:33:31,392 --> 00:33:32,794
Just in time, Lisbon.
784
00:33:32,795 --> 00:33:34,629
Morning, Jane. Nice party.
785
00:33:34,631 --> 00:33:36,047
Can I get some of that coffee?
786
00:33:36,049 --> 00:33:36,998
Nope.
787
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,250
This is only
for the suspects.
788
00:33:39,252 --> 00:33:40,701
What?
For who?
789
00:33:40,703 --> 00:33:42,503
What did you say?
That's right.
790
00:33:42,505 --> 00:33:43,638
You're all here
791
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,257
because one of you
killed Lester Bradovich,
792
00:33:46,259 --> 00:33:49,844
Martin Talbot,
and Allen Charney.
793
00:33:49,846 --> 00:33:52,396
Why would I kill three members
of my own church?
794
00:33:52,398 --> 00:33:53,981
Well, because the farm
was failing,
795
00:33:53,983 --> 00:33:55,766
and Bret Stiles
didn't want that to happen.
796
00:33:55,768 --> 00:33:56,984
But maybe it wasn't you.
797
00:33:56,986 --> 00:33:59,904
Mr. Bradovich here
was angry with his brother
798
00:33:59,906 --> 00:34:01,188
for abandoning his family.
799
00:34:01,190 --> 00:34:04,391
Even if I was, why would I kill
the other two guys?
800
00:34:04,393 --> 00:34:06,744
Who knows
how a homicidal maniac thinks?
801
00:34:06,746 --> 00:34:08,696
Homicidal maniac?
802
00:34:08,698 --> 00:34:10,948
I was 16, Mr. Jane.
803
00:34:10,950 --> 00:34:12,399
Yes, but your mother
was an adult,
804
00:34:12,401 --> 00:34:13,951
and she was angry
with the farmers
805
00:34:13,953 --> 00:34:16,003
over how they were
treating the animals.
806
00:34:16,005 --> 00:34:19,790
Are you seriously saying
my mother killed these people?
807
00:34:19,792 --> 00:34:21,626
You're right.
Maybe it was the priest.
808
00:34:21,628 --> 00:34:24,578
He was angry because he was
displaced as the farm's leader.
809
00:34:24,580 --> 00:34:25,947
No, I wasn't.
810
00:34:25,949 --> 00:34:28,749
Then there's the angry farmer
and the police chief.
811
00:34:28,751 --> 00:34:32,086
Whoever did this,
it was definitely one of you,
812
00:34:32,088 --> 00:34:34,254
and in a moment,
we're gonna find out which one.
813
00:34:34,256 --> 00:34:36,423
But first...
814
00:34:36,425 --> 00:34:39,894
more coffee, anyone?
815
00:34:39,896 --> 00:34:41,228
(Whispers) No.
816
00:34:41,230 --> 00:34:44,665
(Crying) No. No. No. No.
Mom. Mom.
817
00:34:44,667 --> 00:34:45,650
No, no, no.
Mom...
818
00:34:45,652 --> 00:34:47,451
Mom, take it easy.
(Whimpering)
819
00:34:47,453 --> 00:34:49,320
What's her problem?
Why's she so upset?
820
00:34:49,322 --> 00:34:52,123
She recognizes the symbol.
There was one at the farm.
821
00:34:52,125 --> 00:34:54,325
You mean the face on the barn?
Right.
822
00:34:54,327 --> 00:34:55,626
And she knows
what happened underneath it.
823
00:34:55,628 --> 00:34:56,994
Are you saying
she's the killer?
824
00:34:56,996 --> 00:34:59,080
We're gonna have to ask
your mother some questions.
825
00:34:59,082 --> 00:35:00,331
No. You can't.
826
00:35:00,333 --> 00:35:01,666
Ms. Preston,
you got no choice.
827
00:35:01,668 --> 00:35:02,616
She won't understand.
828
00:35:02,618 --> 00:35:04,552
Well, we're gonna
have to try.
829
00:35:04,554 --> 00:35:05,569
Come on.
We'll treat her right.
830
00:35:05,571 --> 00:35:07,171
No. It's not her.
831
00:35:07,173 --> 00:35:09,840
It's me. (Breathing heavily)
832
00:35:11,343 --> 00:35:13,293
It's me.
833
00:35:13,295 --> 00:35:17,231
You thought it was me
when we met, didn't you?
834
00:35:17,233 --> 00:35:19,800
I thought that was
a possibility.
835
00:35:19,802 --> 00:35:20,968
Young woman, high-achieving,
836
00:35:20,970 --> 00:35:23,604
ends up running
a doggy day care.
837
00:35:23,606 --> 00:35:26,273
Suggested something went wrong
along the way.
838
00:35:26,275 --> 00:35:28,976
Yeah.
839
00:35:28,978 --> 00:35:31,912
That sounds about right.
840
00:35:31,914 --> 00:35:34,081
(Exhales)
841
00:35:34,937 --> 00:35:40,057
My mother was concerned
about the Visualize farm.
842
00:35:40,059 --> 00:35:45,345
I was riding along when she made
a visit in the area.
843
00:35:45,347 --> 00:35:48,065
And she saidshe wanted to check on them
844
00:35:48,067 --> 00:35:51,202
to see what was going on.
845
00:35:51,954 --> 00:35:53,705
It had rained that day...
(Turns off engine)
846
00:35:53,707 --> 00:35:56,074
So the ground was wet.
847
00:35:56,076 --> 00:35:59,693
(Crickets chirping)
848
00:35:59,695 --> 00:36:02,964
You stay here.
I'll be just a minute.
849
00:36:08,870 --> 00:36:11,756
Next thing I knew,
I heard someone shouting.
850
00:36:11,758 --> 00:36:13,041
Don't tell me what to do!
851
00:36:13,043 --> 00:36:14,225
There are laws.
852
00:36:14,227 --> 00:36:15,510
I don't care
about any of your laws!
853
00:36:15,512 --> 00:36:16,477
Laws that say this animal
854
00:36:16,479 --> 00:36:18,146
has to be fed
and taken care of!
855
00:36:18,148 --> 00:36:20,648
And if you won't take care
of it, I will report you!
856
00:36:20,650 --> 00:36:23,201
I... I should...
857
00:36:23,203 --> 00:36:25,052
You want me
to take care of it? Fine!
858
00:36:25,054 --> 00:36:26,654
I'll take care of it!
(Gunshot)
859
00:36:26,656 --> 00:36:27,688
(Squeals)
860
00:36:27,690 --> 00:36:28,906
(Breathing heavily)
861
00:36:28,908 --> 00:36:33,894
He looked so crazy.
Just out of his mind.
862
00:36:33,896 --> 00:36:35,780
Well,
he was amped up on speed.
863
00:36:35,782 --> 00:36:37,615
He'd been sleep-deprived
for weeks.
864
00:36:37,617 --> 00:36:39,984
He was out of his mind.
865
00:36:39,986 --> 00:36:41,669
What happened next?
866
00:36:41,671 --> 00:36:43,921
Oh, you son of a bitch!
867
00:36:43,923 --> 00:36:46,574
(Slaps)
868
00:36:46,576 --> 00:36:48,009
(Holly) Mom!
869
00:36:48,011 --> 00:36:50,711
(Ellen screaming)
870
00:36:50,713 --> 00:36:52,430
(Grunting)
871
00:36:52,432 --> 00:36:55,716
I thought he was gonna
kill my mother.
872
00:36:55,718 --> 00:36:57,468
I had to do something.
873
00:36:57,470 --> 00:36:59,353
Hey!
874
00:36:59,355 --> 00:37:01,305
Get off her!
875
00:37:01,307 --> 00:37:02,807
Hey!
(Gun cocks)
876
00:37:02,809 --> 00:37:03,975
(Fires)
877
00:37:05,444 --> 00:37:07,228
(Breathing heavily)
878
00:37:07,230 --> 00:37:10,264
I-I don't understand...
879
00:37:10,266 --> 00:37:13,134
Where were Charney and Talbot?
How did they get shot?
880
00:37:13,136 --> 00:37:15,486
I don't know.
881
00:37:16,822 --> 00:37:18,272
What?
882
00:37:18,274 --> 00:37:23,911
I-I don't know anything
about them, I swear. I...
883
00:37:23,913 --> 00:37:25,413
It wasn't me.
884
00:37:25,415 --> 00:37:27,748
What wasn't you?
885
00:37:29,284 --> 00:37:31,969
Holly?
886
00:37:31,971 --> 00:37:34,138
What happened
when you hid the body?
887
00:37:37,059 --> 00:37:40,294
My mother was sure
I could go to jail.
888
00:37:40,296 --> 00:37:42,396
And she couldn't
let that happen.
889
00:37:42,398 --> 00:37:44,298
She wouldn't
let that happen.
890
00:37:44,300 --> 00:37:49,821
She knew there wasa basement in the barn.
891
00:37:49,823 --> 00:37:52,190
So we went down there,
892
00:37:52,192 --> 00:37:55,076
and that's when we foundthe other two.
893
00:37:57,946 --> 00:38:01,415
Talbot and Charney's bodies
were already there?
894
00:38:01,417 --> 00:38:04,585
I-I guess it was them.
895
00:38:04,587 --> 00:38:06,787
Did you see anything else?
Anything at all?
896
00:38:06,789 --> 00:38:07,788
No.
897
00:38:07,790 --> 00:38:09,924
After we dumped the body,
898
00:38:09,926 --> 00:38:11,659
we got out of there
as fast as we could.
899
00:38:11,661 --> 00:38:16,547
I had a feeling...
900
00:38:16,549 --> 00:38:20,468
Someone was there with us.
901
00:38:23,639 --> 00:38:26,390
Someone was watching us.
902
00:38:35,033 --> 00:38:36,784
Hey. You got a second?
903
00:38:36,786 --> 00:38:38,202
Sure.
904
00:38:38,204 --> 00:38:42,039
Word is Holly Preston's only
gonna face manslaughter charges
905
00:38:42,041 --> 00:38:43,991
for the homicides.
That true?
906
00:38:43,993 --> 00:38:46,694
We suggested it to the D.D.A.,
and he agreed.
907
00:38:46,696 --> 00:38:47,695
Really?
908
00:38:47,697 --> 00:38:49,247
She claims she did it
in self-defense,
909
00:38:49,249 --> 00:38:51,365
and we believed her.
She'll serve time.
910
00:38:51,367 --> 00:38:52,633
Three guys got killed.
911
00:38:52,635 --> 00:38:55,002
She only killed one of them,
and it was in self-defense.
912
00:38:55,004 --> 00:38:56,254
That's what she says.
913
00:38:56,256 --> 00:38:58,556
Are you in the business
of taking killers at their word?
914
00:38:58,558 --> 00:38:59,807
I believe her.
915
00:38:59,809 --> 00:39:03,711
Did someone from Visualize
ask you to talk to me?
916
00:39:03,713 --> 00:39:05,429
Because you've never
come to my office
917
00:39:05,431 --> 00:39:07,398
and questioned
my arrests before.
918
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,817
Yeah, I might have
gotten some calls.
919
00:39:09,819 --> 00:39:10,818
Might've heard some concern
920
00:39:10,820 --> 00:39:12,520
that you pushed
for lighter sentences
921
00:39:12,522 --> 00:39:14,438
because the victims
were church,
922
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,357
and maybe
you don't like the church.
923
00:39:16,359 --> 00:39:17,992
Absolutely not.
924
00:39:17,994 --> 00:39:19,694
Would you be willing
to push for a murder charge,
925
00:39:19,696 --> 00:39:21,445
have another talk
with the D.D.A.?
926
00:39:21,447 --> 00:39:23,063
Absolutely not.
927
00:39:23,065 --> 00:39:28,035
Okay. Had to try.
928
00:39:28,037 --> 00:39:29,537
Thank you
for hearing me out.
929
00:39:32,124 --> 00:39:33,424
Hey, I-I heard
about Jane's trick.
930
00:39:33,426 --> 00:39:35,543
How did he make
that symbol appear on the table?
931
00:39:35,545 --> 00:39:37,845
Lemon juice.
Kid's invisible ink.
932
00:39:37,847 --> 00:39:40,131
The heat from the coffee pot
made it appear.
933
00:39:40,133 --> 00:39:42,767
Lemon juice. Of course.
934
00:39:44,219 --> 00:39:45,353
Hey, Ray...
935
00:39:45,355 --> 00:39:49,140
You said that you joined
Visualize as a teenager.
936
00:39:49,142 --> 00:39:51,859
So 1988,
you would have been 21?
937
00:39:51,861 --> 00:39:53,093
Yeah, about that.
938
00:39:53,095 --> 00:39:55,613
Did they ever send you to work
at the Elliston farm?
939
00:39:55,615 --> 00:39:57,148
Were you there?
940
00:39:58,917 --> 00:40:01,068
Lisbon, we're still
friends, right?
941
00:40:01,954 --> 00:40:04,104
Why would you ask me that?
942
00:40:14,299 --> 00:40:15,800
(Latch clinks)
943
00:40:15,802 --> 00:40:18,118
(Door rumbles)
944
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:19,086
Lisbon.
945
00:40:19,088 --> 00:40:20,621
Hi, Jane.
946
00:40:20,623 --> 00:40:21,622
What's up?
947
00:40:21,624 --> 00:40:22,923
I had something
I wanted to tell you,
948
00:40:22,925 --> 00:40:25,393
but I've had enough of this.
Let me in, or else.
949
00:40:25,395 --> 00:40:26,677
Or else what?
950
00:40:26,679 --> 00:40:28,479
I don't know, but you're not
gonna like it.
951
00:40:28,481 --> 00:40:29,630
Hmm.
952
00:40:29,632 --> 00:40:31,899
Are we partners or what?
953
00:40:33,769 --> 00:40:35,403
(Whispers)
Come in, partner.
954
00:40:38,106 --> 00:40:39,857
(Latch clinks)
955
00:40:45,330 --> 00:40:46,864
Wow.
956
00:40:47,666 --> 00:40:49,917
What did you want
to tell me?
957
00:40:54,256 --> 00:40:56,290
Visualize absolutely refuses
958
00:40:56,292 --> 00:40:58,542
to let us look at
a membership list from 1988,
959
00:40:58,544 --> 00:41:00,845
or any other year
before or after.
960
00:41:00,847 --> 00:41:03,631
And since they're a recognized
religious organization,
961
00:41:03,633 --> 00:41:05,966
no judge
will give us a warrant.
962
00:41:05,968 --> 00:41:08,552
If Red John was a member
of Visualize in 1988,
963
00:41:08,554 --> 00:41:09,787
we'll never know.
964
00:41:09,789 --> 00:41:11,138
Figures.
965
00:41:11,140 --> 00:41:12,773
Never mind.
966
00:41:12,775 --> 00:41:16,844
We know that Red John
was at Elliston farm in 1988.
967
00:41:16,846 --> 00:41:19,372
That is a huge leap forward,
Lisbon. Huge.
968
00:41:19,397 --> 00:41:20,512
How so?
969
00:41:22,851 --> 00:41:26,737
I recalled all the names
of the 2,164 people
970
00:41:26,739 --> 00:41:29,123
that I met
and shook hands with
971
00:41:29,125 --> 00:41:32,043
since Red John
murdered my family.
972
00:41:32,045 --> 00:41:34,662
I might have missed
one or two, but not many.
973
00:41:34,664 --> 00:41:39,216
807 of those names
were women.
974
00:41:39,218 --> 00:41:41,135
And Red John's
probably not a woman.
975
00:41:41,137 --> 00:41:45,473
Another 949 were men that I had
brief encounters with
976
00:41:45,475 --> 00:41:47,641
that I never saw
or heard from again.
977
00:41:47,643 --> 00:41:51,345
That leaves 408 names.
978
00:41:51,347 --> 00:41:57,234
And Elliston farm will exclude
a whole bunch more.
979
00:41:57,236 --> 00:41:59,070
I'm getting close, Lisbon.
980
00:41:59,072 --> 00:42:00,988
I'm getting very close.
981
00:42:00,990 --> 00:42:02,273
Tell me some of the names.
982
00:42:02,275 --> 00:42:04,108
There's gotta be some
that are at the top of the list.
983
00:42:04,110 --> 00:42:06,026
Sure.
984
00:42:06,028 --> 00:42:08,228
There's some
interesting names.
985
00:42:08,230 --> 00:42:09,830
Well, tell me.
986
00:42:09,855 --> 00:42:14,855
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