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Sydney control to qantas 755.
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Qantas 755.
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It was a case
of the money or the bomb...
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Who are you?
Call me mr brown.
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..In a plot ripped
straight from Hollywood...
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Do not, repeat, do not
go below 20,000 feet.
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..Mr brown threatened to blow up
a plane full of passengers.
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What type of explosive
or how it got there,
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we can only guess at this stage.
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Unless qantas payed his ransom.
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$500,000.
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It was the real-time crime
that stopped the nation.
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If you panic in the flying biz,
you're dead.
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Investigative crime reporter
Adam shand
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follows the money trail.
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How much did he give you?
100 bucks.
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100 bucks?
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So where is all the missing cash?
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Someone knows where
that money is.
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And was mr brown...
Also a murderer?
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We begin tonight
with some startling allegations
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about one of Australia's
most notorious criminals.
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It's one of Australia's
most audacious crimes.
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On may 26, 1971,
a British extortionist
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who called himself mr brown
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called the commonwealth police
at Sydney airport
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and made a frightening claim.
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He said he'd placed a bomb
on board qantas flight 755
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bound for Hong Kong.
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To prove he was serious,
mr brown told them to take a look
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inside an airport locker,
number 84,
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where they'd find
another working bomb,
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identical to the one on qf755.
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The police went
and looked in the locker.
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And what did they find?
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True to his word,
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mr brown had built
an altimeter bomb....
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..With 12 sticks of gelignite
primed to explode.
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Immediately I thought,
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"this could be
a really interesting movie."
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10 years prior to his
Oscar nomination for 'shine,'
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filmmaker Scott Hicks made a movie
about the qantas extortion.
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'Call me mr brown.'
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final call for...
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Hicks stayed true
to the real events of the day
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as they unfolded.
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He cast Chris Haywood
in the key role of mr brown.
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He made an altitude bomb
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and the police and experts
were convinced
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that it was
a working altimeter bomb.
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The replica bomb had been fitted
with an altimeter
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which meant that if there was
a bomb on flight 755,
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with 116 passengers
and 12 crew on board,
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it would be blown to smithereens
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when it descended
below 20,000 feet.
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He was very clever because
he picked a flight of nine hours,
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Sydney to Hong Kong non-stop.
In other words,
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he calculated that would
give US time to think about it.
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You know? Very clever.
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In 1971, John ulm
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was chief press and
information officer for qantas.
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Before that, he'd been
a war correspondent
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and a spitfire pilot
in world war ii.
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Was this the most
exciting/thrilling honours day
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since your war service?
I'll put it this way,
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apart from the war, my war,
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it was the most
interesting day in my life.
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John ulm was working
at qantas house in Sydney cbd
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when mr brown rang,
asking to speak with the big boss.
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The general manager
was then Bert ritchie.
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He was an ex-airline pilot,
a lovely guy,
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but he was out having lunch,
I think,
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with the rail commissioners.
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Phil hausen, who was
the deputy general manager,
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he'd been an air force officer.
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He took the call.
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But mr brown only
wanted to talk to ritchie,
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so hausen had to impersonate
the boss.
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What the hell
am I going to say to him?
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And this is about one o'clock,
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and I was in the general
manager's office the entire time.
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Hello, ritchie here.
This is mr brown.
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Mr brown.
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I understand you're threatening
US with a bomb explosion.
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Is that right?
That's right.
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In what aircraft, mr brown?
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It's all in the letter.
I'm gonna ring you back at 3pm.
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What's that?
I'll call back at three.
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These phone calls
that he made to qantas,
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which I have in my movie,
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they are verbatim transcripts
of the original phone calls.
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There's no invention there.
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Both sides are totally bemused
by the situation that they're in.
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Well, I hope,
mr brown, you know,
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there's nothing going on
that would endanger the lives
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of any of our passengers
on the aeroplane.
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By now, captain ritchie
had returned from lunch
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to be met by police.
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Detective sergeant mcneill,
breaking squad.
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Captain Richie.
You chaps took your time.
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Right.
What does qantas plan to do?
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We're treating this one for real.
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Our only concern must be
for the safety
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of the passengers and the crew.
And if it's a hoax?
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And if it isn't?
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Are you prepared to live
with that decision?
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Sydney control to qantas 755.
We're calling into Brisbane
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to check out a threatening call.
Maintain your present altitude.
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Do not, repeat, do not
go below 20,000 feet.
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The plane only had nine hours
of fuel on board,
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so the pressure was on to find
a solution with mr brown.
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The actual planning of the event
including making the bomb,
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you'd have to say involved
quite a bit of skill.
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But then the actual event itself,
carrying out the ransom demands
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seemed so amateurish.
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In some of those calls,
which were recorded,
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he seems quite uncertain about
the amount of money at one stage.
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...let me see now.
Look, we're demanding $50,000.
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$50,000?
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Right, sorry, I mean $500,000.
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You sound rather unsure
of yourself, mr brown.
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Well, I don't know much
about this sort of thing.
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Aside from the fact that it was
a very devious plot
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that he put into play,
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he seemed very ill-prepared
for success.
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And he seemed
as surprised as anyone
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when things started to actually
go in his direction
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as the day wore on.
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I thought you were taking it
a bit...You know...
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Well, I thought you wasn't
bothering too much actually.
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Not at all.
Well.
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We have an aeroplane
up there, mr brown,
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with 116 people in it.
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We're greatly concerned that they
arrive on the ground safely.
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Passenger safety has always
been the first priority at qantas,
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a tradition that goes
right back to 1920
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when the airline was founded
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by Hudson fysh
and Paul mcginness.
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Both were world war I veterans
and flying aces
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with an iron will to survive.
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A large proportion
of qantas management
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had been air force
operational people.
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The staff manager
was a flying boat pilot,
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the commercial manager
was a kittyhawk fighter pilot,
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I was a spitfire pilot,
so you know,
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in the flying biz,
we don't do panic.
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If you panic in the flying biz,
you're dead.
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It reminds me of that famous quote
from Keith Miller,
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the cricketer, who was asked
about pressure in test cricket.
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He said, "that's not pressure.
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"A messerschmitt up your arse
is pressure."
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Exactly. Exactly.
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By late afternoon,
the aircraft had been recalled
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back to Sydney where it was kept
in a holding pattern,
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burning precious fuel while hausen
negotiated with mr brown.
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The 707 left Sydney
with everything indicating
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just another routine flight
to Hong Kong,
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but the 130 people on board
were just settling down
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when first word
of any trouble was heard.
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The media seemed to be
onto the story pretty early
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while the plane was still
in the air.
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Do you recall how that leaked out?
The media actually agreed
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not to run with it for a while.
What happened then,
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later in the afternoon,
when the plane was sent
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to circle over botany bay,
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they sent out submarines,
the Navy.
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It was becoming
a really big thing
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that no one
could keep the lid on,
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so from that point,
the press knew.
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There's still a great of mystery
around the whole incident
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but the captain is known to have
radioed that he believed
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there was a live altitude bomb
on board.
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What type of explosive
or how it got there,
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we can only guess at this stage.
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Qantas agreed to pay
the entire ransom, $500,000.
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Mr brown insisted they give him
the money in the small bag
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the replica bomb had been in,
but that was never gonna work,
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so John ulm and the qantas team
had to improvise.
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So we sent somebody up
to the canteen
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who bought two suitcases,
very, very cheap.
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They were blue, I think.
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How was qantas able to get
half a million dollars so quickly?
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Well, it's a very effective
banking service in this country.
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You just sign a cheque
and you go to your bank
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and they give you
half a million dollars.
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It was a very impressive service
from our friends
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in the reserve bank.
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By now, it was getting dark.
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As the aircraft continued
to circle botany bay,
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rapidly running out of fuel,
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mr brown drove
a stolen yellow kombi Van
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through the streets of Sydney.
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He was headed for qantas house
in chifley square
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where he'd negotiated to pick up
the two blue suitcases
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full of money.
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Mr ulm, can you tell US how
the money was handed over?
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The second to last call,
very suddenly,
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gave US 15 minutes notice
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to have it available here
in Sydney.
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Just before 17:45,
captain ritchie
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carried the money downstairs
in the elevator
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in two blue suitcases.
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The yellow hire Van drew up
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as the telephone plan
had set it up.
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Bert ritchie approached the Van.
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This man waved a small key
which was the signal
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to indicate this was
the pickup Van.
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He couldn't get the suitcases
through the window
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which was the original plan.
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The cases won't fit.
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The man in the Van,
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who captain ritchie reported
was in his mid-20s...
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Where do you want it?
Down here.
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..Wearing what appeared
like a false beard.
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And with that...
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..Mr brown was off.
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So, where were the police
all this time?
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It's almost keystone cops
in a way.
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I'm not saying that
with a pointed disrespect.
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Qantas house has two entrances.
Hunter street has two lifts.
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The main entrance has four lifts.
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When it came to the point,
ok, the police better go down,
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all the lifts were locked
because the cleaners...
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What now?
Nobody told the cleaners.
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Go on! Get out!
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By the time the police
cottoned on to the action...
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..Mr brown was long gone
with the loot...
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He got away in the middle
of Sydney, in the rush-hour,
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in the only yellow kombi Van
in the southern hemisphere...
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..And disappeared
without a trace.
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Coming up,
was it the perfect crime?
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Perhaps we can start
by asking you
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is this the elusive mr brown?
And a Hollywood connection.
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Would you mind repeating
what you told the ticket agent?
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I told him I had placed a bomb
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aboard your flight six
to New York.
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The atmosphere here at Sydney
airport is electrifying
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as we wait out the final minutes
of what must be
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the greatest alert ever
experienced here in Sydney.
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As we've watched the skies,
we can only wait and hope.
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As the aircraft slowly
descended from 35,000 feet,
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its fuel tanks almost empty,
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mr brown collected
his ransom money,
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a call half a million dollars
from qantas house.
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The deal was he'd call back
and tell qantas
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where the bomb was hidden on board
so the flight crew could disarm it
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before the plane dropped
below 20,000 feet,
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and true to his word,
he called back.
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Hello, ritchie here.
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Now, look,
the bomb's not on the plane.
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The bomb is not on the plane?
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Well, it's better that it wasn't.
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I mean, it was dead sure
that nothing would happen.
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Here are the lights now
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of what we believe
is the big qantas jet.
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The next few minutes will tell
whether we have a safe landing.
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Less than 30 feet off
the runway now,
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the main north-south runway.
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And it's down.
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It looks like a safe landing.
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It was an enormous relief,
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especially for passengers
and crew.
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For you, what was the most nerve
wracking moment of this flight?
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Well, when we commenced descent,
I think it would be,
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but when we reached 22,000 feet
from the ground,
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there was no bomb on board.
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What time was this?
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About 20 minutes
before it landed.
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Everyone was very calm
about this, and the cabin crew,
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the stewards and the hostesses
were really wonderful.
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And you're flying again tonight?
Well, we hope so, yes.
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We really do.
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The ordeal was over
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and Australia could breathe again.
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But as police enquiries
got underway,
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it was clear they were struggling.
277
00:16:39,930 --> 00:16:44,970
They found the kombi Van,
but they had no leads on mr brown,
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so they improvised
with a mannequin.
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Mr lendrum, perhaps we can
start by asking you,
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is this the elusive mr brown?
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No, David, it is not mr brown.
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It is what might be termed
an impression
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given by three eyewitnesses
of what they consider mr brown
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looked like in a fleeting glance.
285
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And whilst the incident is still
fresh in some person's mind,
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we hope to recapture,
from that person's mind,
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his impression of this man.
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As I say, this is
a hurried operation
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and you've got to remember this,
290
00:17:18,090 --> 00:17:19,690
that almost a week
has now passed by
291
00:17:19,730 --> 00:17:21,130
since this man
picked the money up.
292
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The police had nothing
293
00:17:24,370 --> 00:17:27,250
and there was pressure
on mr brown as well.
294
00:17:30,010 --> 00:17:34,090
He was sitting on a huge pile
of unmarked $20 bills,
295
00:17:34,130 --> 00:17:37,170
and now he needed
an exit strategy.
296
00:17:38,930 --> 00:17:41,650
Very few people see
that much money at one time
297
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so I arranged to get into a bank
298
00:17:43,970 --> 00:17:46,250
and the bank very kindly put
together half a million dollars
299
00:17:46,290 --> 00:17:50,570
in $20 notes which surprisingly
takes up a big amount of space.
300
00:17:51,890 --> 00:17:55,050
It conjures up dreams
of expensive motorcars,
301
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a private plane perhaps,
a palatial mansion,
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00:17:58,050 --> 00:18:00,890
or even your own
south pacific island.
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00:18:00,930 --> 00:18:03,250
For mr brown, they are dreams
which theoretically
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00:18:03,290 --> 00:18:05,330
could become a reality.
305
00:18:05,370 --> 00:18:07,610
A lot of people started
to speculate, well,
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00:18:07,650 --> 00:18:09,930
half a million dollars
in $20 notes,
307
00:18:09,970 --> 00:18:11,690
you know, what's he gonna
do with that?
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00:18:13,050 --> 00:18:15,290
We did it, ray, we did it.
We did it!
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00:18:15,330 --> 00:18:18,570
We'll never get away with it.
We have got away with it!
310
00:18:18,610 --> 00:18:21,250
Now all we've got to do is
lie low until things cool off.
311
00:18:24,250 --> 00:18:27,490
Mr brown could not have done
this crime on his own.
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00:18:28,810 --> 00:18:31,130
His accomplice was
a Sydney bartender.
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Raymond James poynting.
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00:18:35,010 --> 00:18:38,250
He helped make the replica bomb
and typed up the letters
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00:18:38,290 --> 00:18:40,210
of demand to qantas.
316
00:18:41,890 --> 00:18:43,730
You better keep your lid
on your spending.
317
00:18:43,770 --> 00:18:45,250
How are we gonna cover ourselves
if people
318
00:18:45,290 --> 00:18:47,650
start asking questions
about the money?
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00:18:48,810 --> 00:18:51,490
It would probably be difficult
to put it into a bank account,
320
00:18:51,530 --> 00:18:54,970
at least half a million,
and although the banks
321
00:18:55,010 --> 00:18:56,730
were keen to tell me,
322
00:18:56,770 --> 00:18:58,330
I did an interview with
the bank official who said...
323
00:18:58,370 --> 00:19:00,730
We'd be delighted to get
a new account
324
00:19:00,770 --> 00:19:02,770
for half a million dollars,
325
00:19:02,810 --> 00:19:05,410
but on the other hand,
this wouldn't happen.
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00:19:05,450 --> 00:19:08,890
We'd have our checks and balances
but as it turned out,
327
00:19:08,930 --> 00:19:11,170
he was able to put
quite large sums
328
00:19:11,210 --> 00:19:14,610
into bank accounts using aliases.
329
00:19:14,650 --> 00:19:18,490
Bill day, Ivan day,
someone called Adams.
330
00:19:22,450 --> 00:19:25,010
Were people aware
of those aliases at the time?
331
00:19:25,050 --> 00:19:29,050
No. He'd been using the name
king or brown.
332
00:19:29,090 --> 00:19:32,130
King was the name
that poynting knew him under.
333
00:19:38,730 --> 00:19:40,690
It's extraordinary
that Raymond poynting
334
00:19:40,730 --> 00:19:43,570
didn't know the true identity
of mr brown,
335
00:19:43,610 --> 00:19:45,170
nor did the real estate agents
who sold him
336
00:19:45,210 --> 00:19:47,570
an old butcher shop
in the Sydney suburb of annandale
337
00:19:47,610 --> 00:19:50,690
for $14,750.
338
00:19:52,410 --> 00:19:54,650
They knew him as Billy day.
339
00:19:59,730 --> 00:20:02,490
He also used an alias to buy
an impressive penthouse
340
00:20:02,530 --> 00:20:04,850
in bondi for $41,000.
341
00:20:08,650 --> 00:20:10,490
If these crooks had played
their cards right,
342
00:20:10,530 --> 00:20:12,450
they could have got away
with this.
343
00:20:12,490 --> 00:20:15,170
They could have left the country
undetected with the loot,
344
00:20:15,210 --> 00:20:18,450
but mr brown had come to love
the good life around Sydney,
345
00:20:18,490 --> 00:20:21,370
and he was keen
to enjoy his money.
346
00:20:27,250 --> 00:20:29,690
The police machine
is painstakingly checking down
347
00:20:29,730 --> 00:20:31,610
a number of lines,
hoping they'll turn up
348
00:20:31,650 --> 00:20:33,370
the lead they're seeking.
349
00:20:39,210 --> 00:20:41,850
The police were desperate
to solve the case.
350
00:20:41,890 --> 00:20:45,490
They'd posted a $50,000 reward
for information
351
00:20:45,530 --> 00:20:50,250
leading to mr brown,
and they soon hit the jackpot.
352
00:20:51,490 --> 00:20:56,330
Both he and his accomplice
poynting just went mad.
353
00:20:58,930 --> 00:21:01,770
Bought six or eight
expensive cars,
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00:21:01,810 --> 00:21:04,290
paid all in $20 bills.
355
00:21:04,330 --> 00:21:06,810
He really blew his own cover.
356
00:21:10,330 --> 00:21:11,890
There it is.
357
00:21:17,210 --> 00:21:20,570
When the police finally
caught up with mr brown...
358
00:21:21,450 --> 00:21:23,930
..He scrambled for another alias.
359
00:21:24,770 --> 00:21:27,370
What's your full name?
Raymond James poynting.
360
00:21:27,410 --> 00:21:29,610
Right, mr poynting.
361
00:21:29,650 --> 00:21:31,570
You don't mind if we have
a look in your boot, do you?
362
00:21:31,610 --> 00:21:33,210
Hey, boss. Take a look at this.
363
00:21:34,490 --> 00:21:36,250
The jig was up.
364
00:21:39,210 --> 00:21:43,650
Poynting was also arrested...
In his own name.
365
00:21:44,970 --> 00:21:48,610
Ray, fancy seeing you here.
366
00:21:49,490 --> 00:21:50,730
Is this the man you know
as Peter king?
367
00:21:50,770 --> 00:21:52,570
Yeah.
368
00:21:52,610 --> 00:21:54,210
It is.
369
00:21:55,930 --> 00:22:00,210
I put it to you that you are
in fact Peter pasquale macari,
370
00:22:00,250 --> 00:22:02,170
wanted in england
on various charges.
371
00:22:02,210 --> 00:22:03,930
Macari?
372
00:22:03,970 --> 00:22:06,210
I'm Peter macari.
373
00:22:07,890 --> 00:22:10,330
And I'm mr brown.
374
00:22:19,010 --> 00:22:20,650
Next...
375
00:22:24,490 --> 00:22:26,730
..The mount isa connection.
376
00:22:26,770 --> 00:22:28,370
We pulled him out of the mine.
377
00:22:28,410 --> 00:22:31,530
And the line manager
I remember saying,
378
00:22:31,570 --> 00:22:34,970
"why did you do it?" And I
thought, "why did I do what?"
379
00:22:42,450 --> 00:22:44,730
Peter macari, aka mr brown,
380
00:22:44,770 --> 00:22:47,650
Billy day, Peter king
and a host of other aliases
381
00:22:47,690 --> 00:22:50,250
has been arrested
over the qantas bomb hoax,
382
00:22:50,290 --> 00:22:52,130
but how did he come up
with this simple
383
00:22:52,170 --> 00:22:54,650
but highly effective
extortion plot?
384
00:22:54,690 --> 00:22:57,690
Well, it turns out his inspiration
came from Hollywood.
385
00:23:07,250 --> 00:23:11,610
In 1966, 'twilight zone' creator
Rob serling
386
00:23:11,650 --> 00:23:13,490
terrified American viewers
387
00:23:13,530 --> 00:23:16,890
in his TV movie
'the doomsday flight.'
388
00:23:17,650 --> 00:23:20,730
after flight six took off
from Los Angeles,
389
00:23:20,770 --> 00:23:23,490
a stranger called
from a public phone
390
00:23:23,530 --> 00:23:26,090
to reveal his fiendish plot.
391
00:23:26,130 --> 00:23:27,290
He's on two.
392
00:23:27,330 --> 00:23:29,770
Would you mind repeating
what you told the ticket agent?
393
00:23:29,810 --> 00:23:31,690
I wouldn't mind at all.
394
00:23:31,730 --> 00:23:34,290
I told him I placed a bomb
395
00:23:34,330 --> 00:23:36,690
aboard your flight six
to New York.
396
00:23:37,450 --> 00:23:40,490
Just like Peter macari
five years later,
397
00:23:40,530 --> 00:23:43,410
the movie villain had built
an altimeter bomb...
398
00:23:44,890 --> 00:23:46,890
..But in 'the doomsday flight',
399
00:23:46,930 --> 00:23:50,250
the villain managed to hide
his bomb aboard the plane.
400
00:23:52,090 --> 00:23:56,050
In the film, the bomb is on
the plane in the pilot's bag.
401
00:23:56,810 --> 00:23:59,050
Macari thought,
"well, I can do this
402
00:23:59,090 --> 00:24:01,570
"without a bomb on the plane,"
which was quite clever.
403
00:24:01,610 --> 00:24:03,290
It was, yeah,
there's no doubt about that.
404
00:24:05,170 --> 00:24:07,210
In 1971, Brian Harding
405
00:24:07,250 --> 00:24:10,610
was in the new south wales
breaking squad.
406
00:24:11,970 --> 00:24:15,490
It was his job to investigate
the replica bomb
407
00:24:15,530 --> 00:24:18,770
and see if anyone else
was involved in the hoax
408
00:24:18,810 --> 00:24:21,810
besides macari and poynting.
409
00:24:23,850 --> 00:24:26,130
Of course, the detonators
and the explosives
410
00:24:26,170 --> 00:24:28,850
came over to the breaking squad
for investigation,
411
00:24:28,890 --> 00:24:30,490
and fairly early in the piece,
412
00:24:30,530 --> 00:24:32,090
we establish that
they were from mount isa.
413
00:24:35,330 --> 00:24:37,730
Mount isa was, and still is,
414
00:24:37,770 --> 00:24:40,850
a very large mining town
in queensland.
415
00:24:42,650 --> 00:24:45,930
Police believed macari
had a connection there.
416
00:24:47,690 --> 00:24:49,610
We went up to mount isa
417
00:24:49,650 --> 00:24:51,490
and through a process
of elimination,
418
00:24:51,530 --> 00:24:54,050
we identified
a particular person.
419
00:24:56,050 --> 00:24:58,330
His name was frank sorohan.
420
00:24:58,370 --> 00:25:01,170
And do you recall
the circumstances of the arrest?
421
00:25:01,210 --> 00:25:03,650
We pulled him out of the mine.
422
00:25:03,690 --> 00:25:07,810
And there's these guys dressed
in suits all around the place
423
00:25:07,850 --> 00:25:10,130
and I didn't know
what was going on
424
00:25:10,170 --> 00:25:12,170
and they grabbed me.
425
00:25:13,010 --> 00:25:16,530
This is the first time
frank sorohan has spoken publicly
426
00:25:16,570 --> 00:25:18,730
about his role in
the great qantas hoax.
427
00:25:18,770 --> 00:25:21,570
I skyped him
in outback queensland,
428
00:25:21,610 --> 00:25:23,210
where he still lives.
429
00:25:23,250 --> 00:25:29,530
They took me up to the manager,
the mine manager,
430
00:25:29,570 --> 00:25:32,090
and the mine manager,
I remember him saying,
431
00:25:32,130 --> 00:25:33,610
"why did you do it?"
432
00:25:33,650 --> 00:25:36,730
And I thought,
"why did I do what?"
433
00:25:38,330 --> 00:25:42,770
Frank sorohan was a naive
20-year-old mine worker
434
00:25:42,810 --> 00:25:47,730
when Peter macari arrived
in mount isa in early 1971.
435
00:25:49,650 --> 00:25:54,010
Met him uptown at a cafe there.
436
00:25:54,050 --> 00:25:57,850
You know, you used to go uptown,
play pool and things like that
437
00:25:57,890 --> 00:26:00,810
back in the day,
and met him there.
438
00:26:01,850 --> 00:26:05,490
And sort of just got talking,
and then he started
439
00:26:05,530 --> 00:26:08,130
asking about explosives
and things like that.
440
00:26:11,090 --> 00:26:13,810
See what I mean? Simple.
441
00:26:13,850 --> 00:26:15,570
Can you get any more
of this stuff?
442
00:26:15,610 --> 00:26:19,570
Without anyone finding out?
Maybe.
443
00:26:19,610 --> 00:26:21,370
What do you want it for?
444
00:26:21,410 --> 00:26:24,410
Just a little project
I had in mind.
445
00:26:24,450 --> 00:26:25,970
Blow up a couple
of tree stumps. Harmless.
446
00:26:28,090 --> 00:26:30,170
Well, we'll see
what we can do?
447
00:26:31,370 --> 00:26:34,170
So I brought some up
from underground
448
00:26:34,210 --> 00:26:35,570
and gave it to him.
I didn't sell them to him.
449
00:26:35,610 --> 00:26:40,210
He came back to isa
after the hoax
450
00:26:40,250 --> 00:26:42,570
and he gave me some money,
451
00:26:42,610 --> 00:26:47,330
and I had that in my locker
when the cops got me.
452
00:26:47,370 --> 00:26:48,770
How much did he give you?
453
00:26:48,810 --> 00:26:51,890
100 bucks.
100 bucks?
454
00:26:51,930 --> 00:26:53,050
Yeah.
455
00:26:53,090 --> 00:26:55,650
Mate, he'd just made
$500,000, frank,
456
00:26:55,690 --> 00:26:57,970
and you got 100 bucks!
457
00:26:58,010 --> 00:27:02,450
I think he was
also checking on me
458
00:27:02,490 --> 00:27:04,410
to see if the penny had dropped,
459
00:27:04,450 --> 00:27:06,130
and clearly it hadn't.
460
00:27:09,850 --> 00:27:13,770
Sorohan was charged
by the police as an accessory
461
00:27:13,810 --> 00:27:16,690
but the charges were dropped
when the court accepted
462
00:27:16,730 --> 00:27:19,770
he had no idea
what macari was up to.
463
00:27:22,330 --> 00:27:25,810
Macari was sentenced
to nine years in jail.
464
00:27:27,850 --> 00:27:30,250
Summing up,
judge staunton described macari
465
00:27:30,290 --> 00:27:32,090
as a clever
and resourceful criminal.
466
00:27:32,130 --> 00:27:34,770
He said macari
had been instrumental
467
00:27:34,810 --> 00:27:36,850
in bringing into action
the defence systems
468
00:27:36,890 --> 00:27:40,010
of the country and had disrupted
an international airline.
469
00:27:40,610 --> 00:27:43,290
Judge staunton added he was
satisfied that macari
470
00:27:43,330 --> 00:27:45,850
was not in the least contrite.
471
00:27:57,890 --> 00:28:00,290
How much did he talk
about the plot?
472
00:28:00,330 --> 00:28:02,650
Well, not very much really.
473
00:28:02,690 --> 00:28:04,090
Everyone knew that he did it.
474
00:28:10,770 --> 00:28:12,450
His greatest claim to fame
at maitland, I think,
475
00:28:12,490 --> 00:28:14,130
was he was the projectionist
476
00:28:14,170 --> 00:28:17,210
on the Saturday afternoon movies.
You know, in those days,
477
00:28:17,250 --> 00:28:19,450
you used to have
a movie projector.
478
00:28:19,490 --> 00:28:21,330
They didn't show
'doomsday flight?'
479
00:28:21,370 --> 00:28:23,570
not while I was there.
480
00:28:26,970 --> 00:28:28,770
The prisoners were more
interested in what happened
481
00:28:28,810 --> 00:28:30,890
to macari's loot
from the qantas hoax.
482
00:28:30,930 --> 00:28:32,370
Let's face it.
483
00:28:32,410 --> 00:28:34,730
500 grand was a lot
of money back in 1971.
484
00:28:34,770 --> 00:28:35,970
It still is today.
485
00:28:36,730 --> 00:28:39,530
We know that macari bought
the old butcher shop in annandale.
486
00:28:42,650 --> 00:28:44,410
After he went to jail,
it was discovered
487
00:28:44,450 --> 00:28:45,730
he'd bricked up the chimney...
488
00:28:47,090 --> 00:28:50,410
..And behind those bricks,
the police found a big pile
489
00:28:50,450 --> 00:28:52,170
of $20 notes.
490
00:28:52,890 --> 00:28:55,890
Soon, they found another $70,000
491
00:28:55,930 --> 00:28:58,890
stashed beneath floorboards
in a house in balmain.
492
00:29:02,850 --> 00:29:04,610
Even though there are still
thousands of dollars
493
00:29:04,650 --> 00:29:06,930
to be accounted for,
police believe they've recovered
494
00:29:06,970 --> 00:29:09,370
the majority of money
from the qantas hoax.
495
00:29:09,410 --> 00:29:12,570
The next step in the case will be
for detectives to question macari
496
00:29:12,610 --> 00:29:16,170
in the hope that he may reveal
where the remainder can be found.
497
00:29:19,770 --> 00:29:21,890
The only time
I really saw him upset
498
00:29:21,930 --> 00:29:25,290
was when they recovered
all his money
499
00:29:25,330 --> 00:29:28,010
and he wasn't too happy that day.
500
00:29:28,050 --> 00:29:29,610
Because he was thinking
he'd probably get out
501
00:29:29,650 --> 00:29:30,850
and there's his little stoop
to come back to.
502
00:29:30,890 --> 00:29:32,530
Well, I would assume
that's what he was thinking.
503
00:29:34,370 --> 00:29:37,170
With the cash counted
and the property sold,
504
00:29:37,210 --> 00:29:41,970
there was still
about $250,000 missing,
505
00:29:42,010 --> 00:29:44,810
and to this day,
it has never been recovered.
506
00:29:46,770 --> 00:29:48,450
Did he ever get any attention
from other inmates
507
00:29:48,490 --> 00:29:51,170
about saying, "well, we know half
the money is still outstanding."
508
00:29:51,210 --> 00:29:54,010
Yeah, a couple of well-known
crims fronted him.
509
00:29:54,050 --> 00:29:55,850
Said, "listen,
where's the money?"
510
00:29:55,890 --> 00:29:57,530
But he said, "look,
there's none left,
511
00:29:57,570 --> 00:30:00,290
"I don't know where it's gone,"
and they just let it go at that.
512
00:30:01,450 --> 00:30:05,410
When Peter macari
was released from jail in 1980,
513
00:30:05,450 --> 00:30:08,170
he was taken straight
to the airport
514
00:30:08,210 --> 00:30:10,330
to be deported back to britain.
515
00:30:11,530 --> 00:30:13,970
He was still holding
his secrets close.
516
00:30:32,170 --> 00:30:35,490
Macari has now been handed
over to three security officers
517
00:30:35,530 --> 00:30:38,490
who will stay with him
all the way to London,
518
00:30:38,530 --> 00:30:42,170
and isn't it ironic that this,
his last fight out of Australia,
519
00:30:42,210 --> 00:30:44,930
is by courtesy of qantas.
520
00:30:50,730 --> 00:30:52,330
Next...
521
00:30:53,050 --> 00:30:55,490
Peter macari,
the man known as mr brown,
522
00:30:55,530 --> 00:30:58,570
was implicated in
a murder mystery a year earlier.
523
00:30:58,610 --> 00:31:02,610
Is Peter macari also a murderer?
524
00:31:02,650 --> 00:31:05,330
Did that strike you
as a motive for murder?
525
00:31:17,930 --> 00:31:21,250
We're rolling the story
forward to 1994.
526
00:31:22,050 --> 00:31:24,250
Two decades after the qantas hoax.
527
00:31:24,290 --> 00:31:26,210
Sydney reporter basil sweeney
528
00:31:26,250 --> 00:31:29,530
finds a new, darker angle
to the story.
529
00:31:29,570 --> 00:31:32,970
He writes of a young englishman,
William Albert day,
530
00:31:33,010 --> 00:31:35,530
known as Billy, who vanished
during a working holiday
531
00:31:35,570 --> 00:31:37,890
in new south wales in 1970.
532
00:31:37,930 --> 00:31:40,210
By now, always everyone
except his family
533
00:31:40,250 --> 00:31:42,970
has forgotten about Billy,
but sweeney reveals
534
00:31:43,010 --> 00:31:45,770
that the last person
to see Billy day
535
00:31:45,810 --> 00:31:49,250
was Peter macari,
the qantas extortionist,
536
00:31:49,290 --> 00:31:52,690
and the story strongly suggests
that macari had a hand
537
00:31:52,730 --> 00:31:54,610
in Billy day's fate.
538
00:31:54,650 --> 00:31:57,570
We begin tonight with some
startling allegations
539
00:31:57,610 --> 00:32:00,930
about one of Australia's
most notorious criminals.
540
00:32:00,970 --> 00:32:03,570
Peter macari,
the man known as mr brown,
541
00:32:03,610 --> 00:32:07,010
was implicated in
a murder mystery a year earlier.
542
00:32:08,050 --> 00:32:09,290
Macari's name raised again
543
00:32:09,330 --> 00:32:11,970
as the centre
of another investigation,
544
00:32:12,010 --> 00:32:15,890
this time into the disappearance
of English tourist bill day,
545
00:32:15,930 --> 00:32:19,170
who vanished a year
before the extortion.
546
00:32:20,810 --> 00:32:23,090
My name's Mark Murdoch,
and in 1994,
547
00:32:23,130 --> 00:32:25,490
I was detective sergeant
at the homicide squad.
548
00:32:25,530 --> 00:32:28,130
I was just fortunate
or unfortunate enough
549
00:32:28,170 --> 00:32:30,370
to allocated the investigation.
550
00:32:33,570 --> 00:32:36,890
As the lead investigator,
Murdoch's first job
551
00:32:36,930 --> 00:32:40,450
was to speak to the day family
who told him their son
552
00:32:40,490 --> 00:32:43,690
had travelled
to Australia in 1969.
553
00:32:47,450 --> 00:32:49,370
If you could tell me who you are
554
00:32:49,410 --> 00:32:52,210
and your relationship
to Billy day.
555
00:32:52,250 --> 00:32:56,530
I'm Trevor day.
I'm bill's youngest brother.
556
00:32:56,570 --> 00:32:59,170
I'm from Ipswich in england.
557
00:33:03,930 --> 00:33:06,610
I was only a young kid
when bill went to Australia.
558
00:33:08,050 --> 00:33:11,490
What are your memories of him?
He was a lovable bloke.
559
00:33:11,530 --> 00:33:13,450
He was a good-looking bloke
and he was always smiling.
560
00:33:15,250 --> 00:33:17,170
He was as tough as old boots.
561
00:33:17,210 --> 00:33:19,290
A solid, big bloke?
Solid bloke.
562
00:33:19,330 --> 00:33:21,130
I think he was
a middleweight boxer.
563
00:33:23,170 --> 00:33:26,050
Not the kind of person
you could trifle with.
564
00:33:26,090 --> 00:33:28,730
No, no.
565
00:33:30,890 --> 00:33:34,690
Bill day came to Australia
with his mate Dave Burt,
566
00:33:34,730 --> 00:33:37,890
two young blokes
in search of a better life.
567
00:33:39,090 --> 00:33:41,010
How often do you think
of your old mate Billy day?
568
00:33:41,050 --> 00:33:42,450
Quite often.
569
00:33:42,490 --> 00:33:44,650
Sometimes I lay in bed at night
and I think,
570
00:33:44,690 --> 00:33:47,010
"I wonder whatever happened
to bill."
571
00:33:47,050 --> 00:33:50,130
He was a real good mate,
and as you know,
572
00:33:50,170 --> 00:33:53,170
he hasn't been seen for around
about 50 years, so...
573
00:33:54,090 --> 00:33:55,650
What do you think happened to him?
574
00:33:55,690 --> 00:33:58,690
I think he most probably
got murdered.
575
00:34:02,610 --> 00:34:05,890
The two friends had worked
and travelled around Australia
576
00:34:05,930 --> 00:34:07,490
for nearly a year.
577
00:34:07,530 --> 00:34:10,410
Bill day had come
to Sydney on his own.
578
00:34:11,850 --> 00:34:14,970
Day and Burt had found some work
in a copper mine in bougainville,
579
00:34:15,010 --> 00:34:16,890
but he suggested
that bill could stay
580
00:34:16,930 --> 00:34:19,530
with some englishman he knew
that were an sharing apartment
581
00:34:19,570 --> 00:34:21,930
in this building behind me.
582
00:34:23,170 --> 00:34:25,410
So bill moved in.
583
00:34:25,450 --> 00:34:27,930
Soon, he was invited to go
on a road trip
584
00:34:27,970 --> 00:34:29,690
with one of the men
living in the apartment.
585
00:34:30,570 --> 00:34:34,850
He knew that man as Peter brown,
when in fact, he was Peter macari.
586
00:34:40,650 --> 00:34:43,610
Bill day wrote to his family
in the UK
587
00:34:43,650 --> 00:34:45,490
three to four times a week
588
00:34:45,530 --> 00:34:48,650
for a period
in excess of 12 months.
589
00:34:49,490 --> 00:34:52,810
Now, the last letter that
the family received from bill
590
00:34:52,850 --> 00:34:57,650
was in june/july 1970,
when bill told them
591
00:34:57,690 --> 00:35:00,930
that he was going to travel
in a campervan
592
00:35:00,970 --> 00:35:04,370
from Sydney to queensland
with Peter brown.
593
00:35:11,290 --> 00:35:15,090
It's not clear how far north
the two of them travelled...
594
00:35:16,130 --> 00:35:18,730
..But only one of them came back.
595
00:35:19,730 --> 00:35:21,730
And that was Peter macari.
596
00:35:22,970 --> 00:35:25,530
This is all before
the hoax takes place.
597
00:35:25,570 --> 00:35:28,690
The theory has long been
that Billy day
598
00:35:28,730 --> 00:35:30,410
perhaps knew
what was going to happen
599
00:35:30,450 --> 00:35:32,290
and was gonna blow the whistle.
600
00:35:32,330 --> 00:35:34,530
Did that strike you
as a motive for murder?
601
00:35:36,610 --> 00:35:38,810
Quite possibly.
602
00:35:38,850 --> 00:35:41,930
Day was last heard of
between June
603
00:35:41,970 --> 00:35:45,330
and August 1970.
On the evidence,
604
00:35:45,370 --> 00:35:48,170
it would appear that macari
didn't start to really hatch
605
00:35:48,210 --> 00:35:50,330
the plot for the qantas extortion
606
00:35:50,370 --> 00:35:53,330
and really put the wheels
in motion, if you like,
607
00:35:53,370 --> 00:35:55,890
until the very early part
of 1971,
608
00:35:55,930 --> 00:36:00,450
which was well past the time that
day had dropped off the planet.
609
00:36:02,410 --> 00:36:05,290
So, what else could
have motivated a murder?
610
00:36:06,690 --> 00:36:10,490
In 1970, macari was wanted
by authorities in britain
611
00:36:10,530 --> 00:36:12,730
for a string of offences.
612
00:36:12,770 --> 00:36:16,490
Firearms, property, and sexual.
613
00:36:19,410 --> 00:36:21,970
Macari was gay which,
at that time,
614
00:36:22,010 --> 00:36:24,930
was a crime in england,
and in new south wales.
615
00:36:26,130 --> 00:36:30,450
What did day really know
about his travelling companion?
616
00:36:34,890 --> 00:36:36,930
Was Billy day gay?
617
00:36:36,970 --> 00:36:40,650
Bill, he definitely
wasn't homosexual.
618
00:36:40,690 --> 00:36:43,770
It's been proven since
that macari was.
619
00:36:43,810 --> 00:36:48,770
At the time, like macari,
I think he's a very good conman,
620
00:36:48,810 --> 00:36:51,290
or he must have been because,
well, he had me conned.
621
00:36:51,330 --> 00:36:53,370
I didn't think he was homosexual,
622
00:36:53,410 --> 00:36:56,050
and most probably
the same with bill.
623
00:36:56,090 --> 00:36:57,330
"Yeah, I'll go on
a trip with him,"
624
00:36:57,370 --> 00:36:59,090
and things changed,
625
00:36:59,130 --> 00:37:03,050
and maybe bill wanted
to get out of the place.
626
00:37:03,090 --> 00:37:07,850
Macari's come back later
and shot him or whatever.
627
00:37:09,130 --> 00:37:13,410
Dave Burt believes Peter macari
was carrying a gun on that trip.
628
00:37:14,490 --> 00:37:17,970
He saw a Winchester rifle
in macari's campervan
629
00:37:18,010 --> 00:37:20,250
when he was in Sydney.
630
00:37:20,290 --> 00:37:25,010
There's also the question of
macari's controlling personality.
631
00:37:25,810 --> 00:37:28,970
Macari seemed to select people
like Billy day,
632
00:37:29,010 --> 00:37:30,650
whether they were gay or not,
633
00:37:30,690 --> 00:37:32,810
compliant people
he could manipulate.
634
00:37:32,850 --> 00:37:37,210
Very much so.
He was the person who...
635
00:37:37,250 --> 00:37:40,330
He was in charge,
he called the shots.
636
00:37:41,290 --> 00:37:43,610
He's co-accused
in the qantas extortion.
637
00:37:43,650 --> 00:37:46,410
Ray poynting was certainly
someone that he knew
638
00:37:46,450 --> 00:37:48,170
would do what was told.
639
00:37:50,570 --> 00:37:54,250
Maybe bill day
wouldn't do what he was told.
640
00:37:54,290 --> 00:37:56,770
Perhaps that's why he disappeared.
641
00:38:01,650 --> 00:38:05,490
Regardless, macari started
using bill day's identity
642
00:38:05,530 --> 00:38:09,050
soon after the road trip in 1970.
643
00:38:11,850 --> 00:38:13,930
Used day's name
to book accommodation,
644
00:38:13,970 --> 00:38:18,490
buy plane tickets,
purchase property...
645
00:38:19,890 --> 00:38:22,250
..Open bank accounts.
646
00:38:22,290 --> 00:38:25,690
Mr macari has used
mr day's identity
647
00:38:25,730 --> 00:38:27,490
on no less than 30 occasions,
648
00:38:27,530 --> 00:38:31,010
between November 1970
and August 4, 1971,
649
00:38:31,050 --> 00:38:32,570
when he was ultimately arrested
650
00:38:32,610 --> 00:38:33,930
for his role
in the qantas extortion.
651
00:38:42,970 --> 00:38:46,650
When police arrested Peter macari,
Dave Burt was back in Sydney.
652
00:38:46,690 --> 00:38:49,330
He was with his mates having
a beer in a beachside hotel
653
00:38:49,370 --> 00:38:51,170
when he saw a photograph of macari
654
00:38:51,210 --> 00:38:53,450
on the front page
of a newspaper.
655
00:38:53,490 --> 00:38:56,810
I said to my mates,
"bloody hell, I know that bloke."
656
00:39:00,050 --> 00:39:04,010
I start reading the story
and it mentioned my mate bill day
657
00:39:04,050 --> 00:39:06,170
and he'd bought
an e type jag in his name
658
00:39:06,210 --> 00:39:09,570
and I thought, "I'd better
do something about this."
659
00:39:09,610 --> 00:39:11,690
So I hopped in the taxi and
went up to the police station.
660
00:39:13,970 --> 00:39:16,490
Bert attempted
to persuade the police
661
00:39:16,530 --> 00:39:19,890
to investigate the disappearance
of his mate,
662
00:39:19,930 --> 00:39:22,890
but says he was fobbed off.
663
00:39:22,930 --> 00:39:26,810
Unfortunately,
there was no evidence
664
00:39:26,850 --> 00:39:30,250
day was ever recorded
as a missing person
665
00:39:30,290 --> 00:39:33,890
in new south wales
or queensland until 1995.
666
00:39:34,810 --> 00:39:39,170
So, there was a massive lost
opportunity there for 25 years
667
00:39:39,210 --> 00:39:42,770
where things could have
been done but weren't.
668
00:39:46,330 --> 00:39:49,370
Coming up, the interview...
669
00:39:49,410 --> 00:39:51,490
Was he a good liar?
An excellent liar.
670
00:39:51,530 --> 00:39:54,290
He's only tell you
what he wanted you to know.
671
00:39:54,330 --> 00:39:59,130
Did Peter macari
also kill his own brother?
672
00:39:59,170 --> 00:40:03,130
Macari was either very unlucky
or there's something more to it.
673
00:40:08,930 --> 00:40:11,890
In 1994,
detective sergeant Mark Murdoch
674
00:40:11,930 --> 00:40:13,490
began investigating
the disappearance
675
00:40:13,530 --> 00:40:15,650
and possible murder of Billy day
676
00:40:15,690 --> 00:40:17,130
on behalf of the coroner.
677
00:40:18,970 --> 00:40:22,530
He didn't have a body so one
of his first lines of enquiry
678
00:40:22,570 --> 00:40:24,970
was to check amongst
the unidentified remains
679
00:40:25,010 --> 00:40:27,970
of more than 400 people
that had been found
680
00:40:28,010 --> 00:40:32,810
in new south wales and queensland
between 1970 and 1994.
681
00:40:32,850 --> 00:40:36,130
This was a classic needle
in a haystack situation,
682
00:40:36,170 --> 00:40:38,210
a long shot,
but without DNA,
683
00:40:38,250 --> 00:40:40,250
medical and dental records
for day,
684
00:40:40,290 --> 00:40:43,610
this would prove to be
a forensic dead-end at this stage.
685
00:40:46,890 --> 00:40:48,570
Whilst trying to keep
an open mind
686
00:40:48,610 --> 00:40:50,450
during the course
of the investigation...
687
00:40:52,090 --> 00:40:53,810
...most significant lines
of enquiry
688
00:40:53,850 --> 00:40:55,050
came back to mr macari.
689
00:40:57,010 --> 00:40:59,690
Detective Murdoch
only ever had one person
690
00:40:59,730 --> 00:41:01,890
of interest in his enquiry.
691
00:41:01,930 --> 00:41:05,810
And that was the qantas hoaxer
Peter macari,
692
00:41:05,850 --> 00:41:09,090
who'd been in an out of jail
in britain and Australia
693
00:41:09,130 --> 00:41:11,690
since the age of 18.
694
00:41:12,610 --> 00:41:15,810
Since being deported back
to britain in 1980,
695
00:41:15,850 --> 00:41:18,370
he'd spent yet more time in jail.
696
00:41:19,490 --> 00:41:24,210
When detective Murdoch flew over
to interview him in 1995,
697
00:41:24,250 --> 00:41:29,890
macari was once again a free man,
living on a houseboat.
698
00:41:33,530 --> 00:41:36,490
We just had to sit in the car
and wait for the tide to go out,
699
00:41:36,530 --> 00:41:40,210
and for the houseboat to settle
on the bottom of the bay
700
00:41:40,250 --> 00:41:43,130
before we could walk out
and grab him,
701
00:41:43,170 --> 00:41:46,170
so it was an interesting day.
702
00:41:50,810 --> 00:41:53,090
Was he living in any kind
of luxury on that?
703
00:41:53,130 --> 00:41:55,210
...very limited means.
704
00:41:55,250 --> 00:41:57,170
The houseboat was an old thing,
705
00:41:57,210 --> 00:42:00,290
more a bit
of an old fishing trawler.
706
00:42:01,810 --> 00:42:04,410
I think any money he had,
he'd well and truly spent.
707
00:42:06,730 --> 00:42:09,090
Despite no outward appearance
of wealth,
708
00:42:09,130 --> 00:42:12,930
macari made sure his lawyer
was present
709
00:42:12,970 --> 00:42:14,810
for the police interview.
710
00:42:23,530 --> 00:42:27,290
What transpired next was
a very carefully constructed set
711
00:42:27,330 --> 00:42:30,450
of answers from macari
about the hoax
712
00:42:30,490 --> 00:42:33,410
and the disappearance of bill day.
713
00:42:33,450 --> 00:42:35,370
Was he proud of the qantas hoax?
714
00:42:35,410 --> 00:42:39,010
He spoke about it
like it happened yesterday.
715
00:42:39,050 --> 00:42:41,730
It was very, very fresh
in his mind.
716
00:42:41,770 --> 00:42:45,250
A great deal of accuracy
about events, times.
717
00:42:46,450 --> 00:42:50,290
But macari was not so fresh
on the subject
718
00:42:50,330 --> 00:42:53,890
of how he assumed
the identity of bill day.
719
00:42:55,250 --> 00:42:57,650
The line of questioning
was put to macari.
720
00:42:57,690 --> 00:43:00,770
Like, ok, as it turned out,
he used the name William day
721
00:43:00,810 --> 00:43:04,010
on numerous occasions.
722
00:43:04,050 --> 00:43:05,970
"Here is the evidence
of the occasions
723
00:43:06,010 --> 00:43:09,730
"you used day's name.
What can you tell me about day?"
724
00:43:09,770 --> 00:43:16,730
And his response to that was that
he couldn't remember bill day.
725
00:43:16,770 --> 00:43:18,210
He doesn't remember meeting him.
726
00:43:19,410 --> 00:43:21,610
He didn't recognise
a photo of day
727
00:43:21,650 --> 00:43:23,530
when I showed him his photo.
728
00:43:24,250 --> 00:43:26,810
He says that he adopts the name
of people that he knows,
729
00:43:26,850 --> 00:43:29,810
but he has no recollection of day
or ever having meeting him.
730
00:43:31,250 --> 00:43:34,330
Was he a good liar?
An excellent liar.
731
00:43:34,370 --> 00:43:37,410
He's cunning, charismatic.
732
00:43:39,050 --> 00:43:42,010
He'd only tell you
what he wanted you to know.
733
00:43:42,810 --> 00:43:45,290
If you wanted to tease
something else out of him,
734
00:43:45,330 --> 00:43:47,570
you basically had to be able
to prove to him
735
00:43:47,610 --> 00:43:49,570
that what he was saying
wasn't right.
736
00:43:52,090 --> 00:43:54,090
And that was as close
as Murdoch came
737
00:43:54,130 --> 00:43:57,730
to pinning the disappearance
of bill day on macari.
738
00:43:58,810 --> 00:44:02,170
In the absence of a body,
he didn't have enough
739
00:44:02,210 --> 00:44:04,570
to charge the qantas hoaxer.
740
00:44:06,090 --> 00:44:08,650
Do you conclude
that he was a murderer?
741
00:44:12,370 --> 00:44:14,530
Look, I wouldn't put it past him.
742
00:44:14,570 --> 00:44:18,250
Can't prove it,
but I wouldn't put it past him.
743
00:44:22,130 --> 00:44:24,690
While he was in england,
detective Murdoch
744
00:44:24,730 --> 00:44:27,250
discovered that British police
were investigating
745
00:44:27,290 --> 00:44:31,610
the disappearance and murder
of Peter macari's brother George
746
00:44:31,650 --> 00:44:33,730
in 1962.
747
00:44:35,690 --> 00:44:39,970
Peter macari's brother George
mysteriously vanished in england,
748
00:44:40,010 --> 00:44:42,930
his body later found
in a shallow grave.
749
00:44:42,970 --> 00:44:45,570
Macari was the last person
to see him alive
750
00:44:45,610 --> 00:44:47,570
and was interviewed by police,
751
00:44:47,610 --> 00:44:50,490
but no one has ever been
charged with the murder.
752
00:44:55,370 --> 00:44:57,970
You've got Peter macari
being the last person
753
00:44:58,010 --> 00:45:01,410
who had dealings with his brother
before he disappeared
754
00:45:01,450 --> 00:45:03,890
and was subsequently
found deceased,
755
00:45:03,930 --> 00:45:07,690
but you've also now got him
the last known person
756
00:45:07,730 --> 00:45:10,810
to have had contact
with William day
757
00:45:10,850 --> 00:45:12,650
before he essentially
dropped off the planet.
758
00:45:12,690 --> 00:45:17,410
Again, coincidence
indicates that macari
759
00:45:17,450 --> 00:45:23,650
was either very unlucky
or there's something more to it.
760
00:45:32,330 --> 00:45:35,130
In 2013, Peter macari took
all of his secrets
761
00:45:35,170 --> 00:45:36,810
with him to the grave.
762
00:45:37,850 --> 00:45:40,170
He committed suicide
without leaving a note.
763
00:45:40,210 --> 00:45:43,770
He left no clues
and he made no admissions.
764
00:45:43,810 --> 00:45:46,650
He might have redeemed himself
by helping police
765
00:45:46,690 --> 00:45:49,330
to bring Billy day home,
but he chose not to.
766
00:45:55,250 --> 00:45:57,730
Still to come...
767
00:45:57,770 --> 00:46:00,250
Who are you?
Call me mr brown.
768
00:46:00,290 --> 00:46:03,570
..The business of being mr brown.
769
00:46:03,610 --> 00:46:05,290
They were offering US
a million dollars!
770
00:46:06,610 --> 00:46:09,330
We thought,
"we've turned into mr brown!"
771
00:46:15,210 --> 00:46:17,930
Peter macari,
the famous qantas hoaxer,
772
00:46:17,970 --> 00:46:21,570
left a terrible trail
of destruction wherever he went.
773
00:46:22,810 --> 00:46:25,650
He was an enigma,
a man of riddles,
774
00:46:25,690 --> 00:46:28,970
and someone who left
so many questions unanswered.
775
00:46:30,370 --> 00:46:33,610
Especially for the family
of bill day.
776
00:46:37,410 --> 00:46:40,330
Macari took
his secret to the grave.
777
00:46:40,370 --> 00:46:43,010
It's a family tragedy
that's never gone away.
778
00:46:43,050 --> 00:46:45,610
Yeah, and it's...
779
00:46:47,850 --> 00:46:49,930
Until mum passed away,
780
00:46:49,970 --> 00:46:53,730
I suppose it was always
on her lips
781
00:46:53,770 --> 00:46:55,490
all the time.
782
00:46:55,530 --> 00:46:58,170
When something happened,
it was bill's birthday
783
00:46:58,210 --> 00:47:00,610
or certain times of the year,
784
00:47:00,650 --> 00:47:02,690
that always came flooding back.
785
00:47:05,410 --> 00:47:07,930
You can't lose that.
786
00:47:10,250 --> 00:47:12,090
You still think he's alive?
787
00:47:12,130 --> 00:47:15,050
I'd like to think he's alive,
more so than dead.
788
00:47:17,050 --> 00:47:19,010
If there's no body,
789
00:47:19,050 --> 00:47:20,970
there has to be a little bit
of hope, I suppose.
790
00:47:22,290 --> 00:47:26,370
If Billy is still out there,
and he does see this,
791
00:47:26,410 --> 00:47:28,450
what would be your message to him?
792
00:47:28,490 --> 00:47:32,010
I'd just say, "bill,
I'd love to meet you.
793
00:47:32,050 --> 00:47:35,010
"I love you."
It's been a long bloody time
794
00:47:35,050 --> 00:47:37,850
since I clapped eyes on him,
795
00:47:37,890 --> 00:47:39,770
and I'm sure the rest
of the family
796
00:47:39,810 --> 00:47:42,370
would love to see him, but...
797
00:47:42,410 --> 00:47:45,890
If he don't want to see US,
then that's fine.
798
00:47:52,570 --> 00:47:54,890
Is the file is still in a state,
do you think,
799
00:47:54,930 --> 00:47:56,450
that if someone went back
through it now
800
00:47:56,490 --> 00:47:59,570
and looked at the DNA evidence
and so forth,
801
00:47:59,610 --> 00:48:01,810
do you think it's possible to
take this forward again somehow?
802
00:48:01,850 --> 00:48:03,850
Yeah, I wouldn't see why not.
803
00:48:03,890 --> 00:48:07,770
DNA technology
and other scientific means
804
00:48:07,810 --> 00:48:11,130
have advanced significantly
since this investigation
805
00:48:11,170 --> 00:48:13,490
was undertaken in 1995.
806
00:48:13,530 --> 00:48:15,210
Like, it's 20 odd years ago.
807
00:48:21,170 --> 00:48:23,290
Bill's brother Trevor
recently supplied his DNA
808
00:48:23,330 --> 00:48:25,890
to the police in the hope
that they can use science
809
00:48:25,930 --> 00:48:27,970
to find out what really happened
to Billy day
810
00:48:28,010 --> 00:48:30,250
and to bring closure
to his family.
811
00:48:43,050 --> 00:48:44,810
Commonwealth police mascot,
constable boyce speaking.
812
00:48:44,850 --> 00:48:47,290
Can I speak
to the officer in charge?
813
00:48:47,330 --> 00:48:48,810
It's for you.
814
00:48:48,850 --> 00:48:50,290
Who is it?
815
00:48:51,210 --> 00:48:53,690
Who are you?
Call me mr brown.
816
00:49:00,890 --> 00:49:04,930
Back in 1986,
filmmaker Scott Hicks
817
00:49:04,970 --> 00:49:07,970
was facing closure
of a different kind.
818
00:49:09,010 --> 00:49:11,010
During the final stages
of production
819
00:49:11,050 --> 00:49:13,450
for 'call me mr brown,'
820
00:49:13,490 --> 00:49:16,610
qantas tried to block
the movie's release.
821
00:49:18,730 --> 00:49:20,890
And they sent a delegation
to south Australia
822
00:49:20,930 --> 00:49:23,290
to monster the premier
of south Australia,
823
00:49:23,330 --> 00:49:24,330
then John bannon,
824
00:49:24,370 --> 00:49:26,130
and said to them,
"you have to stop this film,
825
00:49:26,170 --> 00:49:27,610
"you've got to put a stop to it."
826
00:49:27,650 --> 00:49:30,010
And that is...
On what grounds?
827
00:49:30,050 --> 00:49:33,690
On the grounds that it was
jeopardising aircraft security,
828
00:49:33,730 --> 00:49:36,650
which was exactly why we
had tried to make sure
829
00:49:36,690 --> 00:49:38,370
that they would review it
beforehand
830
00:49:38,410 --> 00:49:41,010
and make sure it didn't,
but they were smartly reminded
831
00:49:41,050 --> 00:49:45,890
by the premier that this
is a democracy.
832
00:49:45,930 --> 00:49:47,250
We have a thing called
freedom of speech,
833
00:49:47,290 --> 00:49:50,410
and we're not in the habit
of shutting films down.
834
00:49:52,450 --> 00:49:55,410
It's no good, we could be
facing a major disaster.
835
00:49:55,450 --> 00:49:58,210
So their next move was to talk
to US about possibly buying
836
00:49:58,250 --> 00:50:02,130
all the world rights to the movie
so that they could Bury it.
837
00:50:04,250 --> 00:50:06,810
Finish packing and bring it
to my office immediately.
838
00:50:06,850 --> 00:50:09,010
First time I've ever seen
half a million in cash.
839
00:50:09,050 --> 00:50:13,130
And we thought,
"we've turned into mr brown!"
840
00:50:14,530 --> 00:50:17,010
It was just...
841
00:50:17,050 --> 00:50:19,490
They were offering a bag of cash
as they'd given to mr brown.
842
00:50:19,530 --> 00:50:20,770
They were offering US $1 million.
843
00:50:20,810 --> 00:50:23,370
He only got half a million,
so, you know.
844
00:50:23,410 --> 00:50:28,050
In the end, qantas got their way
by paying the broadcaster
845
00:50:28,090 --> 00:50:30,490
not to show the movie.
846
00:50:30,530 --> 00:50:32,810
Listen to me, you bastard,
847
00:50:32,850 --> 00:50:34,570
there's real-life money
in these cases.
848
00:50:34,610 --> 00:50:36,970
Now you do your part
and phone US back.
849
00:50:40,530 --> 00:50:42,450
True to their word,
they buried the movie.
850
00:50:42,490 --> 00:50:45,050
To my knowledge, it's never
been screened in Australia,
851
00:50:45,090 --> 00:50:48,090
so it really sort of disappeared
without a trace,
852
00:50:48,130 --> 00:50:50,770
a bit like the rest
of macari's money.
853
00:50:58,610 --> 00:51:01,730
There is the one intriguing aspect
to the whole affair.
854
00:51:01,770 --> 00:51:04,370
There's still a quarter
of $1 million outstanding
855
00:51:04,410 --> 00:51:05,410
of the extortion money
856
00:51:05,450 --> 00:51:07,330
that qantas paid to Peter macari.
857
00:51:07,370 --> 00:51:09,930
So, where did it go?
858
00:51:10,690 --> 00:51:14,170
He certainly told me his thoughts
on where the money ended up.
859
00:51:14,210 --> 00:51:16,570
But...
Where was that?
860
00:51:16,610 --> 00:51:18,770
He said the police got it.
861
00:51:22,050 --> 00:51:24,930
He survived jail here
as an openly gay man
862
00:51:24,970 --> 00:51:28,410
in a very heavy jail
and seems to do pretty well,
863
00:51:28,450 --> 00:51:30,410
thrives in there even.
864
00:51:32,490 --> 00:51:35,130
You wonder whether a little bit
of money changed hands
865
00:51:35,170 --> 00:51:37,410
outside the walls to make sure
that's happened.
866
00:51:37,450 --> 00:51:41,450
Is that a common practice?
Yeah. Absolutely.
867
00:51:41,490 --> 00:51:43,690
Everyone in jail
would have known who he was
868
00:51:43,730 --> 00:51:48,010
and everyone in jail would have
known he had money somewhere.
869
00:51:49,730 --> 00:51:52,130
But there's no evidence
that the police got it
870
00:51:52,170 --> 00:51:54,930
or prison officers got it
or anyone else got it.
871
00:51:57,010 --> 00:52:00,530
Frank sorohan, the miner
who supplied the gelignite
872
00:52:00,570 --> 00:52:03,810
for the replica bomb,
spent time in a jail cell
873
00:52:03,850 --> 00:52:06,330
with macari and poynting.
874
00:52:07,610 --> 00:52:09,890
And what were the discussions
in there?
875
00:52:09,930 --> 00:52:11,930
He told me a few things.
876
00:52:11,970 --> 00:52:18,410
He told me he had money
hidden underwater at Sydney
877
00:52:18,450 --> 00:52:20,450
and stuff like that,
878
00:52:20,490 --> 00:52:24,410
but I think that was just
a bullshit story.
879
00:52:29,130 --> 00:52:33,090
We speculate in the film
there's a safe under the sea.
880
00:52:35,610 --> 00:52:38,410
Macari did buy scuba-diving gear
in the midst of his
881
00:52:38,450 --> 00:52:40,570
orgy of spending,
and a waterproof safe,
882
00:52:40,610 --> 00:52:43,090
so we thought logically,
he probably secreted
883
00:52:43,130 --> 00:52:44,410
some money down there.
884
00:52:48,690 --> 00:52:50,450
Was he specific about it?
885
00:52:50,490 --> 00:52:53,210
Did he mention which cave,
which beach?
886
00:52:53,250 --> 00:52:56,370
He did say but I can't remember.
887
00:52:56,410 --> 00:52:58,730
You can't remember, frank? Crikey!
888
00:52:58,770 --> 00:53:02,010
It's buried in Sydney.
In Sydney? That's a big area!
889
00:53:02,050 --> 00:53:05,530
It's only little.
890
00:53:12,930 --> 00:53:16,010
Because it was never found.
Well, yeah,
891
00:53:16,050 --> 00:53:19,130
they say it was never found.
Who knows?
892
00:53:19,170 --> 00:53:20,890
It's a great mystery.
893
00:53:20,930 --> 00:53:23,090
Someone knows
where that money is.
894
00:53:23,130 --> 00:53:25,210
Let's go!
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