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- Man, narrating: There was
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no emotion in my blood.
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There was no anger.
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There was nothing.
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It was dead silence in my brain.
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Dead, cold quiet.
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He looked at me...
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he walked past me...
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and then I heard my head.
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It said, "do it, do it, do it,
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do it," over and over again.
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The catcher in the rye of my
generation, chapter 27.
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My whole life has pointed
in one direction.
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I can see that now.
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There has never been
any choice for me.
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You never find your identity
by looking for it.
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- Ronald Reagan on radio: They
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say that the united states has
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had its day in the sun, that our
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nation has passed its zenith...
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they expect you to tell your
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children that the American
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people no longer have the will
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to cope with their problems,
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that the future will be one of
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sacrifice and few opportunities.
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My fellow citizens, I utterly
reject that view.
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- Hey, man, you're late.
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- I thought you weren't in
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till Monday.
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- Boss called... Arthur's
ill... new guy ain't here yet.
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- You're kidding.
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It's almost 11:30.
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- I know.
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I've been here since 7.
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- Man on tv: ...will get things
under way there in the
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music hall...
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- What's going on over there?
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- Woman on tv: Good evening...
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- Someone jammed gum
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in the locks.
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- Animals.
- That's what I said.
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- Next Tuesday is election day.
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Before going to the polls,
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voters want to understand
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the issues.
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- Chapman: You called in?
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- It's all yours.
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- Voters will have an
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opportunity to see and hear the
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major party candidates for the
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presidency state their views on
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issues that affect us all.
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- Man on tv: The candidates
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will debate questions on
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domestic, economic, foreign
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policy and national security
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issues.
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The questions are going to be
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posed by a panel of
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distinguished journalists who
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are here with me.
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...they are: Marvin stone, the
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editor of u.s. News & world
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report...
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- Yes, hello?
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Hello?
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- Chapman on phone: Bang-bang,
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you're dead.
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- Hello?
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- Twelve hours of work
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and I still can't sleep.
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The days go on and on...
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and they don't end.
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My body fights me, always.
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It won't sleep, it won't eat.
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The headaches are getting worse.
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- Thank you,
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me too.
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Hey... mark. - Mother...
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- Hey.
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- What are you doing?
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- Well, it's very nice to see
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you too, mark.
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- Everything o.k. Over here?
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- Oh, yeah, sure,
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everything's fine.
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This is Makana.
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Makana, this is mark.
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Mark is an old--
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- I'm her son.
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- Oh... you...
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Don't listen to him.
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I was really never much of a
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mother to him, we were more like
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best friends.
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Weren't we, mark?- Mmm.
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- Mind you, where we come from,
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sometimes that's one
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and the same.
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Makana's gonna take me surfin'.
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- Bye!
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- Chapman: My mother was a
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dreamer... moody... right out of
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glass menagerie.
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She was afraid of getting old
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and said she'd commit suicide
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when she turned 50.
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She felt romantic about
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Charles Boyer, but remote
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from my father.
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I don't think I ever hugged
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my father.
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He never told me he loved me and
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he never said he was sorry.
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My mother always said he
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couldn't show these kinds of
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things, couldn't show any kind
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of emotional love.
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One time, he pushed my head
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in a plate of spaghetti.
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Sometimes I fantasized about
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getting a gun and blowing
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him away.
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She said she only married him
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to have me.
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Why?
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Normal kids don't grow up
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to shoot ex-Beatles.
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All my life needed was a sense
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of someplace to go.
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I don't believe you should
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devote your life to morbid
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self-attention.
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I believe that one should become
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a person like other people.
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I was starting to hate people.
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The slightest rebuff or
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rejection would send me
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into a frenzy.
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Bang-bang, you're dead.
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Bang-bang, you're dead.
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...i began withdrawing
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from the world.
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I was losing everything
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I cared about.
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... Things used
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to be o.k.
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... I just don't know
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if I can...
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if I can keep up, o.k.?
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If I can keep up with
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everything... everything,
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you know?
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You... mom... my job...
I can't come down.
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In my head, I can't come down!
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I feel like a victim right now,
o.k.?
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I just feel like I have no
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control over my world...
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over ourworld, you know,
and I need you.
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I need you to understand!
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Do you understand?
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Understand me, please!
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- We know it's you.
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- Yeah?
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- If you persist
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in harassing...
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- Oh, come on.
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- If you persist in harassing
us, you'll be served with
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a restraining order.
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- Yeah, and what the fuck do
you think this is?
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You get people to buy into
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this crap and then you screw
their savings.
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- No.
- And then you force them to
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take out a second mortgage.
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- This is your last warning.
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- And we of the church believe
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that the laws of god forbid man
to destroy his own kind.
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- Correct.
- To destroy the sanity
of another.
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- Correct.
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- To destroy or enslave
another soul.
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- If you persist, we'll call
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the police and inform
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the medical authorities.
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I'm sure you don't want to go
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back to the hospital.
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Castle memorial mental
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health clinic.
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June 21st, 1977.
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- A science fiction writer
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is not a god.
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You're not a religion.
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...my life was either happiness
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or despair.
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I had no stable sense
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of self-esteem.
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I felt I was nothing, a nobody.
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I took refuge in public places.
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I loved the library.
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I loved the smell of books.
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All that learning.
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It's the essence
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of something orderly.
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Miss Blakeslee taught me
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the value of books.
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Thurber... ogden nash...
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once a month she brought us in
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and taught us how to use
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the library.
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I volunteered as an assistant.
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Things you like as a child stay
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with you for life.
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I was searching for some kind of
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guidance... a mission...
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and for my sins, I found one.
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I hadn't read it since I was 16.
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Now it burned in my hand.
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It was like an electric current
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passing through my body,
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lighting up all the cells
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in my brain.
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Here was something I could
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identify with, an unphoney way
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of life.
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And the more I read, the more
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I saw myself in its pages.
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I was actually becoming its
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hero, holden Caulfield.
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I started reading the catcher in
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the ryeand I couldn't put it
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down until I got to the end.
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And then I read it again.
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And I held it between my hands
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and I put it against my face
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and I inhaled deeply.
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And I read it again, drinking in
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the aroma that's sort of...
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Antiseptic smell...
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...between my nostrils and my
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skin, drinking in the aroma...
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that sort of antiseptic smell...
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...my nostrils and my skin...
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a way to live an honest life,
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an unphoney way of life is a way
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that I can identify with.
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I remember my mind
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is disheveled.
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It's ripped and torn.
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There is a tornado in my mind,
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circling around my brain.
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Bits and pieces crashing into
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the walls.
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The debris.
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Broken things, cloudy things...
things I can't see.
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...well?
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- I don't see much point
in it.
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- You realize this is one of
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the most brilliant studies of
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adolescence ever written?
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- He sounds a mess to me.
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- Of course he's a mess,
but he realizes he's a mess.
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He tries to express
what he feels.
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He's a human being
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for all his faults.
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- I don't like the way
he talks.
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- I don't like the way you
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talk, but I listen.
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- I suppose it's very clever,
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the way he writes and all.
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- Gloria, I gave you the book
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because I thought you would
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identify with him... with me.
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I'm holden Caulfield.
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He doesn't fit anywhere
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and I don't.
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Don't you even read books?
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- I read books.
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- No, not magazines and travel
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brochures and books about Japan,
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but realbooks, realbooks with
emotions and real people.
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- Yes, I do, actually.
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And who says Japan doesn't have
real people?
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- Well, Japan... you know what
I mean.
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That's why you need to
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understand the catcher.
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You need to understand holden.
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If you understand holden...
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how you gonna understand me?
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Real books, I'm talking about
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art and literature and you know,
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things that people read.
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- Don't be so arrogant.
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- I mean, don't you even
294
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feel sorry for him?
295
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...i was identifying with
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a 16-year-old boy in a book in
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New York city, and here I am,
298
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a 25-year-old man in Hawaii
who was married.
...hi.
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- Chapman's mother: Hi.
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- I'm holden Caulfield.
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He doesn't fit anywhere,
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and I don't.
303
00:20:20,736 --> 00:20:22,773
- This is not realistic.
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- Hi, honey.
- I know.
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Well... sometimes
306
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I get aggravated.
307
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- O.k., it's all right.
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It's o.k.
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- Chapman: It was a statement.
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Here is my identity.
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Here is where my pain is.
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"I keep picturing all these
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little kids playing some game in
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this big field of rye and all.
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Thousands of little kids,
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and nobody's around...
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nobody big, I mean, except me,
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and I'm standing at the edge
319
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of this crazy cliff.
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What I have to do, I have
321
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to catch everybody if they start
322
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to go over the cliff.
323
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I mean, if they're running and
324
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they don't look where they're
325
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going, I have to come out from
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somewhere and catch them.
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That's all I'll do all day.
328
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I'd just stand there and be
329
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the catcher in the rye and all.
330
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I know it's crazy,
331
00:21:23,316 --> 00:21:24,628
but that's the only thing
332
00:21:24,662 --> 00:21:26,526
I'd really like to be.
333
00:21:26,561 --> 00:21:32,014
I know it's crazy."
334
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Chapter 22... page 173.
335
00:21:51,171 --> 00:21:53,553
Then I found another book,
336
00:21:53,588 --> 00:21:54,692
just as holden Caulfield had
337
00:21:54,727 --> 00:21:58,075
bled through the ink of catcher,
338
00:21:58,109 --> 00:22:00,319
John Lennon now entered my mind.
339
00:22:05,393 --> 00:22:06,359
There was John Lennon
340
00:22:06,394 --> 00:22:08,637
on the cover.
341
00:22:08,672 --> 00:22:10,294
He was on liberty island where
342
00:22:10,329 --> 00:22:11,985
the statue of liberty is.
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00:22:12,020 --> 00:22:13,470
He was right at the base of
344
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the statue of liberty with
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his glasses and cap with
346
00:22:15,782 --> 00:22:17,508
the scarf around his neck,
347
00:22:17,543 --> 00:22:20,580
having his photograph taken.
348
00:22:20,615 --> 00:22:21,788
I looked through the book at
349
00:22:21,823 --> 00:22:23,376
the pictures of John Lennon on
350
00:22:23,411 --> 00:22:24,722
the gabled roof of the Dakota
351
00:22:24,757 --> 00:22:26,345
building in New York.
352
00:22:32,420 --> 00:22:33,213
Those photographs of him
353
00:22:33,248 --> 00:22:34,387
on the roof, they entered
354
00:22:34,422 --> 00:22:35,630
my mind and they took on
355
00:22:35,664 --> 00:22:38,391
a life of their own.
356
00:22:38,426 --> 00:22:39,323
And at some point,
357
00:22:39,358 --> 00:22:42,430
after looking at those pictures,
358
00:22:42,464 --> 00:22:49,437
I became enraged at him.
359
00:22:49,471 --> 00:22:53,130
Something inside me just broke.
360
00:22:53,164 --> 00:22:55,339
The great John Lennon, who told
361
00:22:55,374 --> 00:22:58,480
us to imagine no possessions,
362
00:22:58,515 --> 00:22:59,964
and there he was with millions
363
00:22:59,999 --> 00:23:02,829
of dollars and yachts and farms
364
00:23:02,864 --> 00:23:04,141
and country estates, laughing at
365
00:23:04,175 --> 00:23:05,245
people like me who believed
366
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,524
all the lies and bought
367
00:23:07,558 --> 00:23:10,250
all the records.
368
00:23:10,285 --> 00:23:14,185
It reeked of phoniness.
369
00:23:14,220 --> 00:23:19,501
Confirmation.
370
00:23:19,536 --> 00:23:21,745
As soon as I saw that picture,
371
00:23:21,779 --> 00:23:28,061
I knew I was going to kill him.
372
00:23:37,174 --> 00:23:38,658
It was like I had been handed
373
00:23:38,693 --> 00:23:42,213
something, a solution.
374
00:23:42,248 --> 00:23:43,698
For the first time in years, all
375
00:23:43,732 --> 00:23:47,011
my thoughts were synchronized.
376
00:23:47,046 --> 00:23:48,461
It's what holden had fantasized
377
00:23:48,496 --> 00:23:50,049
about in the book, killing
378
00:23:50,083 --> 00:23:52,776
the big, fat guy in the hotel--
379
00:23:52,810 --> 00:23:56,504
the pimp, the phoney.
380
00:24:02,993 --> 00:24:05,444
- All done for
the morning, sir?
381
00:24:05,478 --> 00:24:06,928
- All through.
- Yeah?
382
00:24:06,962 --> 00:24:07,653
Pretty rough night?
383
00:24:07,687 --> 00:24:09,344
- Oh, you know, the usual.
384
00:24:09,378 --> 00:24:12,589
- Yeah?
385
00:24:12,623 --> 00:24:14,936
Yeah.
386
00:24:19,423 --> 00:24:21,114
Well... you have yourself
387
00:24:21,149 --> 00:24:22,702
a good morning, sir.
388
00:24:22,737 --> 00:24:23,496
- You too, good-bye.
389
00:24:23,531 --> 00:24:28,605
- Good-bye, my friend.
390
00:24:35,163 --> 00:24:36,751
- Chapman: I had found my
391
00:24:36,785 --> 00:24:40,858
identity but I had lost my life.
392
00:24:40,893 --> 00:24:43,689
- Mark!
393
00:24:43,723 --> 00:24:45,104
Mark!
394
00:24:45,138 --> 00:24:46,312
Mark!
395
00:25:08,161 --> 00:25:09,404
- Chapman: I would sit up all
396
00:25:09,438 --> 00:25:11,302
night playing Beatles records,
397
00:25:11,337 --> 00:25:12,545
speeding them up, slowing them
398
00:25:12,580 --> 00:25:16,549
down, interjecting my own words.
399
00:25:16,584 --> 00:25:18,378
I would strip naked, gritting
400
00:25:18,413 --> 00:25:20,484
my teeth and summoning the devil
401
00:25:20,519 --> 00:25:24,592
and wild things in my mind.
402
00:25:24,626 --> 00:25:26,317
I was sending out telegrams to
403
00:25:26,352 --> 00:25:29,493
satan, "give me the opportunity
404
00:25:29,528 --> 00:25:34,084
to kill John Lennon."
405
00:25:38,985 --> 00:25:40,884
...i'm 25 years old.
406
00:25:40,918 --> 00:25:42,161
I've made a decision.
407
00:25:42,195 --> 00:25:44,232
My decision... is I'm gonna
408
00:25:44,266 --> 00:25:45,474
go travel.
409
00:25:45,509 --> 00:25:46,372
- You're going to abandon
410
00:25:46,406 --> 00:25:47,615
your wife and your mother and
411
00:25:47,649 --> 00:25:49,444
leave... go thousands of miles
412
00:25:49,478 --> 00:25:50,997
away and you just want to start
413
00:25:51,032 --> 00:25:52,136
with New York City, right?
414
00:25:52,171 --> 00:25:53,137
- It's always
about you, mother.
415
00:25:53,172 --> 00:25:54,242
I'm not abandoning, I'm not.
416
00:25:54,276 --> 00:25:55,761
- It's not about me.
This is about you.
417
00:25:55,795 --> 00:25:58,349
You're the one who married her,
little, helpless little girl,
418
00:25:58,384 --> 00:26:00,766
and now you're gonna go away
and leave her...
419
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:02,008
Leave her in,
420
00:26:02,043 --> 00:26:02,906
under my care.
421
00:26:02,940 --> 00:26:04,148
I'm supposed to...
422
00:26:04,183 --> 00:26:06,047
- Well, Gloria is not under
your care and Gloria is not
423
00:26:06,081 --> 00:26:08,428
helpless, and neither are you.
424
00:26:08,463 --> 00:26:10,085
So you take care of you.
425
00:26:10,120 --> 00:26:11,293
Gloria will be fine on
426
00:26:11,328 --> 00:26:12,916
her own, and I'll be back
427
00:26:12,950 --> 00:26:15,228
before you know it.
428
00:26:15,263 --> 00:26:16,989
- I'm not, I'm not buying it.
429
00:26:17,023 --> 00:26:18,438
- Well, you don't have
to buy it.
430
00:26:18,473 --> 00:26:20,337
- I know when you're lying
to me.
431
00:26:20,371 --> 00:26:21,718
Now, if there's a real reason
432
00:26:21,752 --> 00:26:24,134
why you feel the need to go back
433
00:26:24,168 --> 00:26:25,549
to New York city, I want you
434
00:26:25,584 --> 00:26:27,620
to tell it to me right now.
435
00:26:39,252 --> 00:26:41,703
My decision... is I'm gonna
436
00:26:41,738 --> 00:26:42,428
go travel.
437
00:26:42,462 --> 00:26:43,636
- I don't understand the whole
438
00:26:43,671 --> 00:26:44,499
thing with New York city...
439
00:26:44,533 --> 00:26:46,846
- You don't have to understand!
440
00:26:46,881 --> 00:26:48,158
O.k., I am just doing
441
00:26:48,192 --> 00:26:50,332
what I want to do!
442
00:26:50,367 --> 00:26:51,540
You don't need to understand
443
00:26:51,575 --> 00:26:56,407
everything that I do!
444
00:27:15,116 --> 00:27:16,220
..."the phoney must die,"
445
00:27:16,255 --> 00:27:18,878
says the catcher in the rye.
446
00:27:18,913 --> 00:27:19,914
"the phoney must
447
00:27:19,948 --> 00:27:21,640
die," says the catcher in
448
00:27:21,674 --> 00:27:27,128
the rye.
449
00:27:40,175 --> 00:27:41,349
- Can I help?
450
00:27:41,383 --> 00:27:42,350
- I need something for
451
00:27:42,384 --> 00:27:44,145
protection at home.
452
00:27:44,179 --> 00:27:47,010
- O.k., uh, anything in mind?
453
00:27:47,044 --> 00:27:48,321
- What would you suggest?
454
00:27:48,356 --> 00:27:49,668
- Well, if you get a .22 and
455
00:27:49,702 --> 00:27:51,083
a burglar comes in, he's just
456
00:27:51,117 --> 00:27:52,463
gonna laugh at you.
457
00:27:52,498 --> 00:27:54,017
Handy little gun-- it's fast,
458
00:27:54,051 --> 00:27:56,571
but don't do much damage.
459
00:27:56,605 --> 00:27:59,574
But... if you get a .38,
460
00:27:59,608 --> 00:28:01,956
nobody's gonna laugh at you.
461
00:28:01,990 --> 00:28:04,579
Fine, solid gun, blue steel,
462
00:28:04,613 --> 00:28:06,788
snub nose... otherwise the same
463
00:28:06,823 --> 00:28:11,206
as a police service revolver.
464
00:28:11,241 --> 00:28:12,760
Now, that will stop anything
465
00:28:12,794 --> 00:28:14,693
that moves and it's handy,
466
00:28:14,727 --> 00:28:17,488
flexible... it's lightweight,
467
00:28:17,523 --> 00:28:19,628
reliable.
468
00:28:19,663 --> 00:28:21,182
You know, some of these guns
469
00:28:21,216 --> 00:28:22,286
are like toys, but a smith
470
00:28:22,321 --> 00:28:25,013
& Wesson... you can hit somebody
471
00:28:25,048 --> 00:28:26,428
over the head with it and
472
00:28:26,463 --> 00:28:29,742
it'll still come back dead-on.
473
00:28:29,777 --> 00:28:32,193
You can't beat quality.
474
00:28:32,227 --> 00:28:39,131
You interested in an automatic?
475
00:28:39,165 --> 00:28:40,891
- How much?
476
00:28:40,926 --> 00:28:44,757
- With specialized grips...
477
00:28:44,792 --> 00:28:46,725
169.
478
00:28:46,759 --> 00:28:50,832
- O.k., I'll take it.
479
00:29:00,842 --> 00:29:02,395
...hi, I'd like a ticket
480
00:29:02,430 --> 00:29:05,605
to New York, one way.
481
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:06,848
- Woman on phone: So long
482
00:29:06,883 --> 00:29:08,263
as you fill out a form and
483
00:29:08,298 --> 00:29:09,851
the firearm and ammunition
484
00:29:09,886 --> 00:29:10,576
are packed separately...
485
00:29:10,610 --> 00:29:11,991
- And where do I get that form?
486
00:29:12,026 --> 00:29:13,786
- At the check-in, but the gun
487
00:29:13,821 --> 00:29:15,098
has to be in your luggage.
488
00:29:15,132 --> 00:29:16,893
You can't take it onboard.
489
00:29:16,927 --> 00:29:17,894
- And that's it?
490
00:29:17,928 --> 00:29:18,791
- That's it.
491
00:29:18,826 --> 00:29:19,861
- Thank you very much.
492
00:29:19,896 --> 00:29:23,347
- Have a good flight.
493
00:29:45,473 --> 00:29:46,854
- Chapman: There's a smell
494
00:29:46,888 --> 00:29:48,407
in New York.
495
00:29:48,441 --> 00:29:50,512
It's a scary smell and a cold
496
00:29:50,547 --> 00:29:52,929
smell and I'm frightened...
497
00:29:52,963 --> 00:29:54,344
frightened of someone
498
00:29:54,378 --> 00:29:58,382
finding out my secret.
499
00:29:58,417 --> 00:29:59,694
- Cab driver: Gonna be in
500
00:29:59,728 --> 00:30:05,942
town long?
501
00:30:05,976 --> 00:30:09,152
You ever been to the city?
502
00:30:18,023 --> 00:30:20,335
Where you from, bud?
503
00:30:28,205 --> 00:30:29,068
They don't have traffic
504
00:30:29,103 --> 00:30:30,173
like this on main street
505
00:30:30,207 --> 00:30:31,174
where you live, huh?
506
00:30:31,208 --> 00:30:32,485
Have you stopped to see
507
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:36,179
central park yet?
508
00:30:36,213 --> 00:30:37,318
It's great this time
509
00:30:37,352 --> 00:30:41,011
of the year.
510
00:30:41,046 --> 00:30:43,634
A lot of snow...
511
00:30:43,669 --> 00:30:46,672
- Take me where the freaks are.
512
00:30:46,706 --> 00:30:49,468
- You are where the freaks are.
513
00:30:49,502 --> 00:30:50,952
New York is all freaks.
514
00:30:50,987 --> 00:30:54,922
You're in time square.
515
00:30:54,956 --> 00:30:57,890
This is about as big as a freak
516
00:30:57,925 --> 00:31:02,343
section as you're gonna get.
517
00:31:06,450 --> 00:31:09,074
- You ever seen John Lennon?
518
00:31:09,108 --> 00:31:12,249
- Yeah... he's around.
519
00:31:12,284 --> 00:31:14,355
Seen him in town.
520
00:31:14,389 --> 00:31:17,703
He lives up ahead here.
521
00:31:17,737 --> 00:31:19,394
Matter of fact, he lives up
522
00:31:19,429 --> 00:31:20,602
by 72nd.
523
00:31:20,637 --> 00:31:22,535
- Oh, yeah, the Dakota, right?
524
00:31:22,570 --> 00:31:24,744
- Right up there, that's right.
525
00:31:24,779 --> 00:31:26,298
You knew that, huh?
526
00:31:26,332 --> 00:31:27,437
It's right up near 72nd.
527
00:31:27,471 --> 00:31:29,991
We'll be passing it in a minute.
528
00:31:30,026 --> 00:31:31,303
- He's kind of a phoney,
529
00:31:31,337 --> 00:31:34,616
isn't he?
530
00:31:34,651 --> 00:31:38,689
- That all depends.
531
00:31:38,724 --> 00:31:40,450
- On what?
532
00:31:40,484 --> 00:31:47,733
- On his music or
his personality.
533
00:31:47,767 --> 00:31:50,598
- Maybe a little of both?
534
00:31:50,632 --> 00:31:56,466
- I guess you could say that.
535
00:31:56,500 --> 00:32:02,023
You don't like music?
536
00:32:02,058 --> 00:32:04,232
- I did once.
537
00:32:04,267 --> 00:32:07,615
- What happened?
538
00:32:07,649 --> 00:32:10,998
- I found something else.
539
00:32:11,032 --> 00:32:14,415
- Yeah, that happens, you know?
540
00:32:42,650 --> 00:32:44,479
- How much did you say it was?
541
00:32:44,514 --> 00:32:45,584
- 15.
542
00:32:45,618 --> 00:32:46,412
- Here's 20.
543
00:32:46,447 --> 00:32:49,381
- Happy holiday.
544
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:58,321
- Chapman: I checked into
545
00:32:58,355 --> 00:33:02,704
the Waldorf-Astoria...
just like holden.
546
00:34:16,744 --> 00:34:18,677
I was like a boxer in the 27th
547
00:34:18,711 --> 00:34:22,301
round, all bloody and beaten.
548
00:35:17,149 --> 00:35:18,978
It's what holden had fantasized
549
00:35:19,013 --> 00:35:20,532
about in the book, killing
550
00:35:20,566 --> 00:35:23,224
the big, fat guy in the hotel...
551
00:35:23,259 --> 00:35:27,055
the pimp, the phoney.
552
00:35:41,691 --> 00:35:42,795
sirens wailing,
553
00:35:43,762 --> 00:35:45,004
- Man on tv: If you've been
554
00:35:45,039 --> 00:35:46,834
anywhere near a television set,
555
00:35:46,868 --> 00:35:48,042
you already know that John
556
00:35:48,076 --> 00:35:51,908
Lennon of the Beatles is dead.
557
00:35:51,942 --> 00:35:52,909
- Something's gonna be
558
00:35:52,943 --> 00:35:54,704
happening soon.
559
00:35:54,738 --> 00:35:57,983
You're gonna hear about me.
560
00:35:58,017 --> 00:36:01,193
- You, uh, you famous
or something?
561
00:36:01,228 --> 00:36:03,091
- Oh, no, no.
I'm not famous.
562
00:36:03,126 --> 00:36:04,541
I just want you to be aware
563
00:36:04,576 --> 00:36:05,715
that something's gonna be
564
00:36:05,749 --> 00:36:06,819
happening soon.
565
00:36:06,854 --> 00:36:10,858
Here, turn left here at 72nd.
566
00:36:10,892 --> 00:36:11,824
- John Lennon lives
567
00:36:11,859 --> 00:36:12,791
right there.
568
00:36:12,825 --> 00:36:14,068
- Oh, yeah?
569
00:36:14,102 --> 00:36:15,518
And you can just pull over right
570
00:36:15,552 --> 00:36:18,176
up here, right around there.
571
00:36:18,210 --> 00:36:18,831
- O.k.
572
00:36:18,866 --> 00:36:19,556
- Right around that
573
00:36:19,591 --> 00:36:20,695
truck will be fine.
574
00:36:20,730 --> 00:36:23,974
- Right.
575
00:36:42,061 --> 00:36:44,271
- O.k., let's see, uh...
576
00:36:49,310 --> 00:36:51,278
$7.80.
577
00:36:51,312 --> 00:36:53,797
- You got it, sir.
578
00:36:53,832 --> 00:36:55,282
How's that?
579
00:36:55,316 --> 00:36:57,249
- That's fine.
Listen, you have a nice time
580
00:36:57,284 --> 00:36:58,457
in New York city.
581
00:36:58,492 --> 00:37:00,148
- You too.
It was a pleasure meeting you.
582
00:37:00,183 --> 00:37:03,566
- Pleasure meeting you too.
583
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:09,330
All right...
584
00:37:09,365 --> 00:37:11,884
strange guy.
585
00:37:38,532 --> 00:37:39,912
- Th... this is the Dakota,
586
00:37:39,947 --> 00:37:41,914
right? - Yup.
587
00:37:41,949 --> 00:37:43,295
- Where John Lennon lives?
588
00:37:43,330 --> 00:37:44,607
- Yes, sir.
589
00:37:44,641 --> 00:37:45,884
- Wow.
590
00:37:45,918 --> 00:37:47,092
I can't believe I'm really
591
00:37:47,126 --> 00:37:48,300
standing here, you know,
592
00:37:48,335 --> 00:37:50,302
right outside where he lives.
593
00:37:50,337 --> 00:37:51,372
Sixth floor, right?
594
00:37:51,407 --> 00:37:53,340
Robert ryan's old apartment?
595
00:37:53,374 --> 00:37:54,824
Can you see it?
596
00:37:54,858 --> 00:37:55,894
- Not from here.
597
00:37:55,928 --> 00:37:57,792
Not from here, you can't.
598
00:37:57,827 --> 00:37:58,793
- You know, rosemary's baby
599
00:37:58,828 --> 00:38:00,278
was shot here, wasn't it?
600
00:38:00,312 --> 00:38:01,071
- I don't know.
601
00:38:01,106 --> 00:38:04,489
That's what they say.
602
00:38:04,523 --> 00:38:06,870
- So is, uh, is John in town?
603
00:38:06,905 --> 00:38:08,009
- I don't know, man.
604
00:38:08,044 --> 00:38:08,976
I don't think so.
605
00:38:09,010 --> 00:38:10,011
I haven't seen him.
606
00:38:10,046 --> 00:38:11,219
I think he's traveling
607
00:38:11,254 --> 00:38:14,671
or something.
608
00:38:14,706 --> 00:38:16,949
- I'm from Hawaii.
609
00:38:16,984 --> 00:38:18,503
- Really?
610
00:38:18,537 --> 00:38:19,676
That's a pretty strong accent
611
00:38:19,711 --> 00:38:23,715
you got there from Hawaii.
612
00:38:33,034 --> 00:38:34,933
- Chapman: I cased
the whole building...
613
00:38:34,967 --> 00:38:36,383
walked all the way around it
614
00:38:36,417 --> 00:38:38,350
twice, just like
615
00:38:38,385 --> 00:38:42,389
an assassin would.
616
00:39:15,076 --> 00:39:16,319
- John Lennon on radio: When we
617
00:39:16,354 --> 00:39:17,700
first moved here, we actually
618
00:39:17,734 --> 00:39:18,632
lived in the village,
619
00:39:18,666 --> 00:39:19,667
in greenwich village, which is
620
00:39:19,702 --> 00:39:21,220
sort of the artsy-fartsy section
621
00:39:21,255 --> 00:39:22,429
of town for those that don't
622
00:39:22,463 --> 00:39:24,223
know, where all the students and
623
00:39:24,258 --> 00:39:25,984
the would-be's live, you know,
624
00:39:26,018 --> 00:39:27,848
and a few old poets and that.
625
00:39:28,607 --> 00:39:30,298
She told me, "yes, you can walk
626
00:39:30,333 --> 00:39:31,299
on the streets," you know.
627
00:39:31,334 --> 00:39:32,991
I mean, it took me two years
628
00:39:33,025 --> 00:39:35,545
to unwind.
629
00:39:35,580 --> 00:39:36,546
- Chapman: Shooting a man
630
00:39:36,581 --> 00:39:39,273
is no easy thing.
631
00:39:39,307 --> 00:39:40,101
It takes a lot
632
00:39:40,136 --> 00:39:43,484
of inner strength.
633
00:39:43,519 --> 00:39:44,865
- I can go right out
634
00:39:44,899 --> 00:39:46,314
this door now and go
635
00:39:46,349 --> 00:39:47,488
in a restaurant.
636
00:39:47,523 --> 00:39:49,352
Do you want to know how great
637
00:39:49,387 --> 00:39:50,595
that is?
638
00:39:50,629 --> 00:39:51,596
Or go to the movies?
639
00:39:51,630 --> 00:39:53,011
I mean, people come up and ask
640
00:39:53,045 --> 00:39:55,841
for autographs or say "hi" but
641
00:39:55,876 --> 00:39:58,188
they won't bug you, you know?
642
00:40:12,133 --> 00:40:13,411
- Man on tv: Don't you forget
643
00:40:13,445 --> 00:40:14,446
what the Beatles have said.
644
00:40:14,481 --> 00:40:15,896
Don't forget to take your Beatle
645
00:40:15,930 --> 00:40:17,035
records and your Beatle
646
00:40:17,069 --> 00:40:18,450
paraphernalia to any one of our
647
00:40:18,485 --> 00:40:20,279
14 pick-up points in Birmingham,
648
00:40:20,314 --> 00:40:22,178
Alabama, and turn them in,
649
00:40:22,212 --> 00:40:23,593
this week if possible.
650
00:40:27,528 --> 00:40:28,598
- Chapman: I had found
651
00:40:28,633 --> 00:40:30,186
my identity...
652
00:40:30,220 --> 00:40:34,777
but I had lost my life.
653
00:40:34,811 --> 00:40:35,778
..."the phoney must die,"
654
00:40:35,812 --> 00:40:40,438
says the catcher in the rye.
655
00:40:43,337 --> 00:40:44,165
"the phoney must die,"
656
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,651
says the catcher in the rye.
657
00:40:55,522 --> 00:40:56,419
"the phoney must die,"
658
00:40:56,454 --> 00:40:58,179
says the catcher in the rye.
659
00:41:26,345 --> 00:41:27,346
- One dollar here,
660
00:41:27,381 --> 00:41:29,107
one dollar...
661
00:41:32,282 --> 00:41:33,214
- Man in movie: ...the raging
662
00:41:33,249 --> 00:41:34,561
bull... let's hear it for the
663
00:41:34,595 --> 00:41:36,942
great Jake la Motta, ladies and
664
00:41:36,977 --> 00:41:38,081
gentlemen!
665
00:41:40,256 --> 00:41:41,533
- Announcer: He was
a fighter...
666
00:41:41,568 --> 00:41:43,052
- Why does he have to make
667
00:41:43,086 --> 00:41:44,191
it so hard on himself?
668
00:41:45,675 --> 00:41:46,814
- Announcer: A winner...
669
00:41:46,849 --> 00:41:48,229
A loser...
670
00:41:48,264 --> 00:41:49,541
- I done a lot
671
00:41:49,576 --> 00:41:50,438
of bad things, Joey.
672
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,333
- Announcer: In this
673
00:42:23,368 --> 00:42:25,128
typical town...
674
00:42:25,163 --> 00:42:27,372
in this comfortable home...
675
00:42:27,406 --> 00:42:29,719
three ordinary people are
676
00:42:29,754 --> 00:42:31,410
about to live
677
00:42:31,445 --> 00:42:34,482
an extraordinary story...
678
00:42:41,524 --> 00:42:42,387
- Young man: You know,
679
00:42:42,421 --> 00:42:43,595
I used to figure you had
680
00:42:43,630 --> 00:42:45,321
a handle for everything...
681
00:42:45,355 --> 00:42:46,874
you knew it all...
682
00:42:46,909 --> 00:42:48,186
and I know that wasn't fair,
683
00:42:48,220 --> 00:42:49,739
but you always made us feel like
684
00:42:49,774 --> 00:42:50,913
everything was gonna be
685
00:42:50,947 --> 00:42:52,155
all right.
686
00:42:52,190 --> 00:42:54,606
I really admire you for it.
687
00:42:54,641 --> 00:42:55,918
- Oh, don't admire people
688
00:42:55,952 --> 00:42:57,160
too much.
689
00:42:57,195 --> 00:42:58,576
They'll disappoint
690
00:42:58,610 --> 00:43:02,752
you sometimes.
691
00:43:02,787 --> 00:43:08,516
- I love you.
692
00:43:11,312 --> 00:43:14,246
- I love you too.
693
00:43:43,897 --> 00:43:45,208
- Chapman: I had an experience
694
00:43:45,243 --> 00:43:47,107
in that theater.
695
00:43:47,141 --> 00:43:48,626
Somehow, in that brief time,
696
00:43:48,660 --> 00:43:50,317
my rage against John Lennon
697
00:43:50,351 --> 00:43:52,319
was defeated.
698
00:43:52,353 --> 00:43:56,323
A volcano was capped.
699
00:43:59,084 --> 00:44:01,915
I realized I had a wife at home
700
00:44:01,949 --> 00:44:06,195
who loved me.
701
00:44:06,229 --> 00:44:10,233
...Gloria, hi, it's me.
702
00:44:10,268 --> 00:44:12,580
I'm comin' home.
703
00:44:12,615 --> 00:44:15,445
I've won a great victory.
704
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,690
Your love has saved me.
705
00:44:18,725 --> 00:44:20,347
I was gonna kill him but your
706
00:44:20,381 --> 00:44:23,419
love saved me.
707
00:44:23,453 --> 00:44:27,112
You know what I'm talking about.
708
00:44:27,147 --> 00:44:30,978
Gloria, listen... just listen.
709
00:44:31,013 --> 00:44:34,154
I was gonna kill...
710
00:44:34,188 --> 00:44:36,466
John Lennon, but our paths
711
00:44:36,501 --> 00:44:38,606
didn't cross.
712
00:44:43,404 --> 00:44:45,613
...you don't believe me.
713
00:44:45,648 --> 00:44:47,201
I even got to know the doorman
714
00:44:47,236 --> 00:44:50,584
where Lennon lives.
715
00:44:50,618 --> 00:44:51,965
I could have done it.
716
00:44:51,999 --> 00:44:54,899
Your love has saved me, Gloria.
717
00:44:54,933 --> 00:44:56,521
I just want to come back home
718
00:44:56,555 --> 00:44:57,487
to you, no one else,
719
00:44:57,522 --> 00:45:00,767
there's no one else.
720
00:45:00,801 --> 00:45:02,354
I made such a big mistake
721
00:45:02,389 --> 00:45:04,529
coming here.
722
00:45:04,563 --> 00:45:07,118
But I could have done it.
723
00:45:07,152 --> 00:45:08,671
I really could have done it.
724
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,715
...i lied to my wife.
725
00:45:17,749 --> 00:45:19,371
I told her I threw away the gun
726
00:45:19,406 --> 00:45:22,789
in the ocean, which I didn't.
727
00:45:22,823 --> 00:45:25,584
I told her it was over...
728
00:45:25,619 --> 00:45:29,174
it wasn't.
729
00:45:37,182 --> 00:45:40,668
16 days later, I was back.
730
00:45:40,703 --> 00:45:42,222
I told my wife I was going
731
00:45:42,256 --> 00:45:44,431
to find a new career.
732
00:46:02,863 --> 00:46:03,726
in the distance,
733
00:46:06,971 --> 00:46:07,868
- Heavenly treasures
734
00:46:07,903 --> 00:46:09,042
are what the spirit
735
00:46:09,076 --> 00:46:12,735
of god gives...
736
00:46:12,770 --> 00:46:14,461
and so the poor people also have
737
00:46:14,495 --> 00:46:19,846
the spirit of god in them...
738
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:24,160
well, that's what I'm saying...
739
00:46:24,195 --> 00:46:25,265
that, that's what
740
00:46:25,299 --> 00:46:27,715
the antichrist said...
741
00:47:34,852 --> 00:47:36,957
- Hi, you gals waitin'
742
00:47:36,992 --> 00:47:37,751
for somebody?
743
00:47:37,785 --> 00:47:38,925
- Well, as matter of fact,
744
00:47:38,959 --> 00:47:40,374
we were waiting for you.
745
00:47:40,409 --> 00:47:41,720
- It wasn't worth it.
746
00:47:44,137 --> 00:47:45,483
- I'm sorry,
747
00:47:45,517 --> 00:47:47,278
we're only teasing.
748
00:47:47,312 --> 00:47:50,660
I'm Jude, this is Jeryl.
749
00:47:54,147 --> 00:47:55,700
- I know.
750
00:47:55,734 --> 00:47:57,012
I heard John Lennon lives here,
751
00:47:57,046 --> 00:47:58,461
I was, uh, hoping to get his
752
00:47:58,496 --> 00:47:59,497
autograph-- is he around?
753
00:47:59,531 --> 00:48:00,498
Have you seen him?
754
00:48:00,532 --> 00:48:02,120
- Um, no, but he's somewhere
755
00:48:02,155 --> 00:48:03,811
in the city.
756
00:48:03,846 --> 00:48:07,022
- Good.
757
00:48:07,056 --> 00:48:08,713
I'm from Hawaii.
758
00:48:08,747 --> 00:48:09,783
- You came all the way
759
00:48:09,817 --> 00:48:11,647
from Hawaii to see John?
760
00:48:11,681 --> 00:48:12,855
- I'm a big fan.
761
00:48:12,890 --> 00:48:14,684
- You must be.
762
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:15,720
- Well, I'm also here
763
00:48:15,754 --> 00:48:17,342
on business, and just thought
764
00:48:17,377 --> 00:48:20,483
I'd take a look.
765
00:48:20,518 --> 00:48:21,484
- Well, Jeryl and I
766
00:48:21,519 --> 00:48:23,003
are considered family.
767
00:48:23,038 --> 00:48:24,556
- Yeah, so much so that John
768
00:48:24,591 --> 00:48:26,179
and Yoko call us by name.
769
00:48:26,213 --> 00:48:27,490
- Yeah, sometimes they stop us
770
00:48:27,525 --> 00:48:29,492
on the street to have a chat.
771
00:48:29,527 --> 00:48:30,183
- Wow...
772
00:48:30,217 --> 00:48:32,150
I just want an autograph.
773
00:48:32,185 --> 00:48:33,703
Oh, I should have brought a book
774
00:48:33,738 --> 00:48:35,705
or something!
775
00:48:35,740 --> 00:48:36,879
- Oh, why don't you get
776
00:48:36,914 --> 00:48:38,087
double fantasy?
777
00:48:38,122 --> 00:48:39,261
Even if you don't get an
778
00:48:39,295 --> 00:48:41,504
autograph, it's a great album.
779
00:48:41,539 --> 00:48:42,505
- Hey, yeah,
780
00:48:42,540 --> 00:48:43,817
maybe I'll do that.
781
00:48:43,851 --> 00:48:45,025
They'd never believe it
782
00:48:45,060 --> 00:48:46,544
back home.
783
00:48:46,578 --> 00:48:48,028
- O.k., well, we're going
784
00:48:48,063 --> 00:48:50,341
to go get something to eat now.
785
00:48:50,375 --> 00:48:52,205
So, it was nice meeting you.
786
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:53,102
- Well, I'll be here
787
00:48:53,137 --> 00:48:54,517
until at least midnight.
788
00:48:54,552 --> 00:48:55,622
- Well, see you later then.
789
00:48:55,656 --> 00:48:57,037
- Well, maybe we can all have
790
00:48:57,072 --> 00:48:58,694
dinner tonight?
791
00:48:58,728 --> 00:49:00,075
My treat!
792
00:49:00,972 --> 00:49:03,078
Do you like Japanese?
793
00:49:10,706 --> 00:49:12,397
- Man, whistling: Taxi!
794
00:49:17,816 --> 00:49:18,817
- "he was so
795
00:49:18,852 --> 00:49:20,750
nice... I just can't believe
796
00:49:20,785 --> 00:49:22,235
he was the one..."
797
00:50:48,390 --> 00:50:49,632
...the more I found out,
798
00:50:49,667 --> 00:50:52,428
the more angry I became.
799
00:50:52,463 --> 00:50:53,636
The guy owned five luxury
800
00:50:53,671 --> 00:50:56,156
apartments in the Dakota...
801
00:50:56,191 --> 00:50:57,847
four farms in Virginia,
802
00:50:57,882 --> 00:51:00,471
Vermont and upstate New York.
803
00:51:00,505 --> 00:51:02,990
250 head of prize holstein
804
00:51:03,025 --> 00:51:04,095
cattle worth more
805
00:51:04,130 --> 00:51:07,133
than $100,000 each.
806
00:51:07,167 --> 00:51:10,239
A vast weekend home in Florida.
807
00:51:10,274 --> 00:51:15,106
A 63-foot ocean-going yacht.
This from a man who told us
808
00:51:15,141 --> 00:51:19,386
to "imagine no possessions."
809
00:52:34,496 --> 00:52:35,911
...when I heard the homos next
810
00:52:35,945 --> 00:52:37,464
door, I flew into a rage
811
00:52:37,499 --> 00:52:40,191
inside myself.
812
00:52:40,226 --> 00:52:45,196
They disgusted me.
813
00:52:45,231 --> 00:52:46,542
Travis was right.
814
00:52:46,577 --> 00:52:49,545
"one day a real rain will come
and wash all the scum off
815
00:52:49,580 --> 00:52:51,927
the street."
816
00:53:31,932 --> 00:53:32,968
- Frank! Frank!
817
00:53:35,246 --> 00:53:36,420
- Chapman: George c. Scott...
818
00:53:38,284 --> 00:53:40,941
- Johnny Carson...
819
00:53:40,976 --> 00:53:44,945
Jackie Onassis...
820
00:53:47,016 --> 00:53:48,846
On the streets, among all
821
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:51,262
the freaks and queers and bums
822
00:53:51,297 --> 00:53:53,540
and whores...
823
00:53:53,575 --> 00:53:56,888
I knew holden was right.
824
00:53:56,923 --> 00:53:59,581
It was all very clear.
825
00:54:03,550 --> 00:54:06,035
Here is a little man who has
826
00:54:06,070 --> 00:54:07,692
nothing, going against
827
00:54:07,727 --> 00:54:09,349
a giant phoney.
828
00:54:19,290 --> 00:54:20,809
I wanted to go and shoot 'em
829
00:54:20,843 --> 00:54:26,746
all... and I almost did.
830
00:54:26,780 --> 00:54:28,023
But what glory is there
831
00:54:28,057 --> 00:54:30,750
in killing unknowns?
832
00:54:33,270 --> 00:54:35,272
In the book, holden checked out
833
00:54:35,306 --> 00:54:36,687
of his miserable room
834
00:54:36,721 --> 00:54:38,136
in a cheap hotel.
835
00:54:39,517 --> 00:54:42,382
My $16-a-night Y.M.C.A. Full
836
00:54:42,417 --> 00:54:46,352
of queers now became room 2374
837
00:54:46,386 --> 00:54:49,320
at the Sheraton.
838
00:54:49,355 --> 00:54:51,874
Hell to heaven in a cab ride.
839
00:54:58,709 --> 00:55:00,504
- Woman on tv: Hey Trina,
it's Bree...
840
00:55:00,538 --> 00:55:01,574
- I could have killed those
841
00:55:01,608 --> 00:55:02,644
queers, I really could have.
842
00:55:02,678 --> 00:55:03,783
- Woman on tv: Yeah, listen,
843
00:55:03,817 --> 00:55:05,129
I could use a quick 50.
844
00:55:05,163 --> 00:55:07,683
Got a commuter for me?
845
00:55:07,718 --> 00:55:10,341
...good evening.
846
00:55:10,376 --> 00:55:13,344
If you'd like that...
847
00:55:13,379 --> 00:55:15,001
have you ever been with a woman
848
00:55:15,035 --> 00:55:17,452
before, paying her?
849
00:55:17,486 --> 00:55:18,832
Do you like it?
850
00:55:18,867 --> 00:55:20,178
I mean, I have the feeling
851
00:55:20,213 --> 00:55:21,318
that that turns you on
852
00:55:21,352 --> 00:55:23,354
very particularly.
853
00:55:23,389 --> 00:55:24,942
What turns me on is because
854
00:55:24,976 --> 00:55:27,462
I have a good imagination
855
00:55:27,496 --> 00:55:31,707
and I like it... pleasing.
856
00:55:31,742 --> 00:55:33,122
Do you mind if I take
857
00:55:33,157 --> 00:55:34,538
my sweater off?
858
00:55:34,572 --> 00:55:35,677
Well, I think in the confines
859
00:55:35,711 --> 00:55:37,472
of one's house, one should be
860
00:55:37,506 --> 00:55:39,819
free of clothing
861
00:55:39,853 --> 00:55:41,752
and inhibitions.
862
00:55:41,786 --> 00:55:43,063
Oh, inhibitions are always nice
863
00:55:43,098 --> 00:55:44,168
because they're so nice
864
00:55:44,202 --> 00:55:46,688
to overcome.
865
00:55:50,485 --> 00:55:52,487
- Hi, I'd like an escort
866
00:55:52,521 --> 00:55:56,145
for the evening.
867
00:55:56,180 --> 00:55:58,700
Yes... someone foreign.
868
00:55:58,734 --> 00:56:01,461
Do you have any foreign women?
869
00:56:01,496 --> 00:56:02,669
Someone exotic.
870
00:56:02,704 --> 00:56:03,670
I'd like someone
871
00:56:03,705 --> 00:56:10,297
from another country.
872
00:56:10,332 --> 00:56:11,540
Good...
873
00:56:11,575 --> 00:56:13,818
but she's gotta be quiet.
874
00:56:13,853 --> 00:56:15,475
If she doesn't talk,
875
00:56:15,510 --> 00:56:19,203
I will tip her very well.
876
00:56:19,237 --> 00:56:20,860
O.k.?
877
00:56:20,894 --> 00:56:23,276
I'm at the Sheraton hotel,
878
00:56:23,310 --> 00:56:27,418
room 2730.
879
00:56:27,453 --> 00:56:29,178
Caulfield.
880
00:56:29,213 --> 00:56:33,459
Holden Caulfield.
881
00:56:46,368 --> 00:56:47,438
...i kept walking around
882
00:56:47,473 --> 00:56:48,646
the room, waiting for this
883
00:56:48,681 --> 00:56:51,580
prostitute to show up.
884
00:56:51,615 --> 00:56:52,305
I kept hoping
885
00:56:52,339 --> 00:56:53,340
she'd be good-looking.
886
00:56:53,375 --> 00:56:55,170
I didn't care too much though.
887
00:56:55,204 --> 00:56:57,206
I sort of just wanted to get it
888
00:56:57,241 --> 00:56:58,760
over with.
889
00:57:02,039 --> 00:57:03,247
I was startin' to feel
890
00:57:03,281 --> 00:57:04,455
pretty sexy and all.
891
00:57:04,490 --> 00:57:09,322
I was a little nervous anyway.
892
00:57:09,356 --> 00:57:11,497
Finally, somebody knocked
893
00:57:11,531 --> 00:57:13,671
on the door.
894
00:57:27,685 --> 00:57:29,963
- Hi, I'm pia.
895
00:57:29,998 --> 00:57:33,450
- Thank you for coming.
896
00:57:41,458 --> 00:57:45,323
You can relax, I'm not kinky.
897
00:57:45,358 --> 00:57:46,877
I'm clean.
898
00:57:46,911 --> 00:57:48,361
I'm not weird.
899
00:57:48,395 --> 00:57:50,156
In fact, I'm not even all that
900
00:57:50,190 --> 00:57:54,471
interested in sex.
901
00:57:54,505 --> 00:57:56,403
I just want to be in the company
902
00:57:56,438 --> 00:57:59,717
of a woman tonight.
903
00:58:02,306 --> 00:58:05,585
I'm expecting that tomorrow will
904
00:58:05,620 --> 00:58:10,038
be a very difficult day for me.
905
00:58:10,072 --> 00:58:12,419
Would you like a drink?
906
00:58:12,454 --> 00:58:15,077
- I don't drink.
907
00:58:15,112 --> 00:58:16,009
- Well, tonight's
908
00:58:16,044 --> 00:58:16,976
your night off.
909
00:58:17,010 --> 00:58:21,256
We can do whatever you want.
910
00:58:26,848 --> 00:58:30,645
Take your dress off.
911
00:58:55,704 --> 00:58:57,982
- Um... turn on the radio.
912
00:58:58,017 --> 00:58:59,501
I think somebody saw me come in
913
00:58:59,536 --> 00:59:01,641
the room... I don't...
914
00:59:01,676 --> 00:59:03,160
I don't want jail.
915
00:59:03,194 --> 00:59:04,575
- Of course.
916
00:59:19,141 --> 00:59:21,558
Would you like a massage?
917
00:59:21,592 --> 00:59:22,800
- Sure, why not?
918
00:59:28,841 --> 00:59:29,980
- A real man doesn't have
919
00:59:30,014 --> 00:59:33,742
to take from a woman.
920
00:59:33,777 --> 00:59:34,950
A real man doesn't have
921
00:59:34,985 --> 00:59:38,747
to use a woman.
922
00:59:38,782 --> 00:59:43,718
He can give.
923
00:59:43,752 --> 00:59:44,719
He can give.
924
01:01:02,037 --> 01:01:03,763
...i woke up knowing somehow
925
01:01:03,798 --> 01:01:06,628
that this was the day...
926
01:01:06,663 --> 01:01:08,734
that when I left that room,
927
01:01:08,768 --> 01:01:10,321
that would be the last time
928
01:01:10,356 --> 01:01:13,152
I would see the room again.
929
01:02:18,665 --> 01:02:20,702
I had never seen John Lennon
930
01:02:20,737 --> 01:02:22,497
up to that point.
931
01:02:22,531 --> 01:02:23,809
I only knew that he was
932
01:02:23,843 --> 01:02:26,881
in the Dakota...
933
01:02:26,915 --> 01:02:28,779
but... I somehow knew that
934
01:02:28,814 --> 01:02:30,954
this was it.
935
01:02:30,988 --> 01:02:32,610
This was the day.
936
01:03:13,375 --> 01:03:17,241
I'm holden Caulfield.
937
01:03:17,276 --> 01:03:21,452
I am... holden Caulfield.
938
01:03:21,487 --> 01:03:24,007
Iam holden Caulfield.
939
01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:38,780
Hello, I'm holden Caulfield.
940
01:03:38,815 --> 01:03:41,058
I'mholden Caulfield.
941
01:04:01,527 --> 01:04:03,978
So I laid out on the dresser
942
01:04:04,012 --> 01:04:05,496
a tableau of everything that was
943
01:04:05,531 --> 01:04:07,947
important in my life.
944
01:04:07,982 --> 01:04:09,362
So it would say,
945
01:04:09,397 --> 01:04:11,433
"look, this is me.
946
01:04:11,468 --> 01:04:14,781
This is my past, and I'm going,
947
01:04:14,816 --> 01:04:18,371
gone to another place."
948
01:04:28,381 --> 01:04:29,589
I practiced what it was gonna
949
01:04:29,624 --> 01:04:31,212
look like when the police came
950
01:04:31,246 --> 01:04:33,283
into the room.
951
01:04:33,317 --> 01:04:35,423
It was like going through a door
952
01:04:35,457 --> 01:04:36,665
and I knew I was going
953
01:04:36,700 --> 01:04:38,667
to go through a door.
954
01:04:38,702 --> 01:04:40,566
The poet's door.
955
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:42,464
William blake's door.
956
01:04:42,499 --> 01:04:45,433
Jim morrison's door.
957
01:04:45,467 --> 01:04:46,813
It was like I was going
958
01:04:46,848 --> 01:04:49,264
through a giant door...
959
01:04:49,299 --> 01:04:51,197
and I was.
960
01:04:51,232 --> 01:04:55,926
I was leaving my past.
961
01:04:55,961 --> 01:04:57,894
My very soul was breathing
962
01:04:57,928 --> 01:04:58,791
between the pages of
963
01:04:58,825 --> 01:05:03,140
the catcher in the rye.
964
01:05:36,898 --> 01:05:37,761
- Chapman: Give me
965
01:05:37,795 --> 01:05:39,418
the strength.
966
01:05:39,452 --> 01:05:41,178
Please... give me
967
01:05:41,213 --> 01:05:43,836
the strength to do it.
968
01:05:43,870 --> 01:05:45,803
It has to be done.
969
01:05:45,838 --> 01:05:48,461
Please give me the strength.
970
01:05:48,496 --> 01:05:51,637
The phonies have to know.
971
01:06:14,142 --> 01:06:15,454
- Hey man, how's it goin'?
972
01:06:15,488 --> 01:06:16,731
- Hey, how's it going?
973
01:06:16,765 --> 01:06:17,697
- All right, right.
974
01:06:17,732 --> 01:06:18,767
You stayin' warm out here?
975
01:06:18,802 --> 01:06:20,217
- I'm trying.
- Yeah.
976
01:06:20,252 --> 01:06:21,632
Hey, have you seen
anybody today?
977
01:06:21,667 --> 01:06:22,875
- No, I haven't.
- No?
978
01:06:22,909 --> 01:06:23,634
- Been quiet?
979
01:06:23,669 --> 01:06:25,774
- Yeah, nobody's come out.
980
01:06:25,809 --> 01:06:27,259
- Chapman: Jose... hey man.
981
01:06:27,293 --> 01:06:28,985
- What's goin' on?
982
01:06:29,019 --> 01:06:30,400
- How are ya?
- Good.
983
01:06:30,434 --> 01:06:31,125
- Photographer: Hi.
984
01:06:31,159 --> 01:06:32,781
- Hey, I'm mark.
- I'm Paul.
985
01:06:32,816 --> 01:06:34,611
- How are ya?
- All right, how are you?
986
01:06:34,645 --> 01:06:35,301
- Good.
987
01:06:35,336 --> 01:06:36,682
So you guys seen Lennon yet?
988
01:06:36,716 --> 01:06:39,064
- No, I haven't.
- No, we were just talking
about that.
989
01:06:39,098 --> 01:06:41,342
- He hasn't been out.
990
01:06:41,376 --> 01:06:42,688
- You're a photographer?
991
01:06:42,722 --> 01:06:43,516
- Oh, yeah.
992
01:06:43,551 --> 01:06:44,586
- You get pictures of him?
993
01:06:44,621 --> 01:06:45,794
- Oh, yeah, all the time.
994
01:06:45,829 --> 01:06:47,141
- Wow, that's great.
995
01:06:47,175 --> 01:06:49,833
- Yeah, it's pretty cool.
996
01:06:49,867 --> 01:06:52,491
So, uh... you new in town?
997
01:06:52,525 --> 01:06:55,321
- Uh... yeah, I'm on vacation.
998
01:06:55,356 --> 01:06:59,049
I'm from Hawaii, Honolulu.
999
01:06:59,084 --> 01:07:00,326
- Really?
- Yup.
1000
01:07:00,361 --> 01:07:01,741
- I didn't realize people from
1001
01:07:01,776 --> 01:07:04,744
Honolulu had a southern drawl.
1002
01:07:04,779 --> 01:07:06,367
Where are you staying
in New York?
1003
01:07:06,401 --> 01:07:07,471
- Why'd you ask me that?
1004
01:07:07,506 --> 01:07:09,370
What the hell do you wanna
know that for?
1005
01:07:09,404 --> 01:07:10,785
No, don't walk away-- why do you
1006
01:07:10,819 --> 01:07:12,787
want to know where I'm staying
in New York?
1007
01:07:12,821 --> 01:07:13,719
- Easy, man-- take it easy.
1008
01:07:13,753 --> 01:07:15,686
I'm only making conversation.
1009
01:07:15,721 --> 01:07:21,382
You're the one who started it...
1010
01:07:21,416 --> 01:07:25,834
right?
1011
01:07:25,869 --> 01:07:28,044
- Sorry.
1012
01:07:30,701 --> 01:07:33,635
- Well, that was weird.
1013
01:07:33,670 --> 01:07:34,878
- Yeah...
1014
01:07:34,912 --> 01:07:37,329
that's New York.
1015
01:07:39,365 --> 01:07:41,816
- Well... looks like it's down
1016
01:07:41,850 --> 01:07:44,646
to us die-hard Beatleholics now.
1017
01:07:46,614 --> 01:07:48,719
Look, I'm sorry if I came on
1018
01:07:48,754 --> 01:07:49,962
a little strong.
1019
01:07:49,996 --> 01:07:51,205
I've been standing out here
1020
01:07:51,239 --> 01:07:54,932
for nearly three days now.
1021
01:07:54,967 --> 01:07:55,864
- You strike up a conversation
1022
01:07:55,899 --> 01:07:57,383
with a guy like he's your long
1023
01:07:57,418 --> 01:07:58,867
lost cousin and then you get
1024
01:07:58,902 --> 01:08:01,525
all hostile.
1025
01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:03,872
- I... I'm bored and I'm far
1026
01:08:03,907 --> 01:08:05,495
away from home, so I try
1027
01:08:05,529 --> 01:08:06,634
to talk to people for
1028
01:08:06,668 --> 01:08:08,567
a little companionship.
1029
01:08:08,601 --> 01:08:10,879
I'm tired... so I guess that's
1030
01:08:10,914 --> 01:08:13,503
why I flew off the handle.
1031
01:08:13,537 --> 01:08:16,713
I'm sorry, o.k.?
1032
01:08:16,747 --> 01:08:18,094
- O.k.
1033
01:08:21,097 --> 01:08:23,271
Hey, relax.
No one's gonna steal your album
1034
01:08:23,306 --> 01:08:23,961
around here.
1035
01:08:36,664 --> 01:08:38,700
- Chapman: ...you get a lot
of shots of John?
1036
01:08:38,735 --> 01:08:40,185
- Oh, yeah, all the time.
1037
01:08:40,219 --> 01:08:41,979
Hey, here he comes.
1038
01:08:55,303 --> 01:08:59,273
- Chapman: Thanks, John.
1039
01:08:59,307 --> 01:09:00,308
- Is that good?
1040
01:09:00,343 --> 01:09:01,344
Anything else?
1041
01:09:01,378 --> 01:09:02,241
- Thanks.
- You're welcome.
1042
01:09:02,276 --> 01:09:03,035
- Chapman: Thanks, John.
1043
01:09:03,069 --> 01:09:05,900
- Cheers.
1044
01:09:50,634 --> 01:09:52,326
- Oh, you lucked out big time.
1045
01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:53,706
That's pretty special.
1046
01:09:53,741 --> 01:09:56,295
Big stars don't usually put
the date.
1047
01:09:56,330 --> 01:09:57,676
- Chapman: Wow.
- That's a collector's item.
1048
01:09:57,710 --> 01:09:59,091
- You know, wait until they see
1049
01:09:59,125 --> 01:10:01,058
this back in Hawaii.
1050
01:10:01,093 --> 01:10:02,508
Did you get any of me?
1051
01:10:02,543 --> 01:10:03,992
- I think so.
- I'll give you anything
1052
01:10:04,027 --> 01:10:07,099
for that picture, anything.
1053
01:10:07,133 --> 01:10:08,411
Did I have my hat on
1054
01:10:08,445 --> 01:10:09,584
or was it off?
1055
01:10:09,619 --> 01:10:11,103
I-I don't want to be standing
1056
01:10:11,137 --> 01:10:11,862
next to John Lennon
1057
01:10:11,897 --> 01:10:13,001
with this stupid hat on.
1058
01:10:13,036 --> 01:10:14,210
Was it on or off?
1059
01:10:14,244 --> 01:10:15,452
- I think it was on.
1060
01:10:15,487 --> 01:10:19,836
- Shit!
Uh... listen, is there any way
1061
01:10:19,870 --> 01:10:21,217
you could get me
that picture tonight?
1062
01:10:21,251 --> 01:10:23,460
I'll give you $50 for it.
1063
01:10:23,495 --> 01:10:25,048
- I live in new jersey.
1064
01:10:25,082 --> 01:10:26,981
- O.k., meet me here tomorrow
1065
01:10:27,015 --> 01:10:30,226
and I'll give you $50-- deal?
1066
01:10:30,260 --> 01:10:33,056
- O.k.
1067
01:10:33,090 --> 01:10:35,127
- Jesus.
1068
01:10:35,161 --> 01:10:36,749
Wait until they see that picture
1069
01:10:36,784 --> 01:10:38,889
back in Hawaii.
1070
01:10:38,924 --> 01:10:40,960
Hell, me... standing next
1071
01:10:40,995 --> 01:10:42,721
to John Lennon.
1072
01:10:42,755 --> 01:10:45,137
Hoo!
1073
01:10:59,841 --> 01:11:02,292
- That's it, I'm gone.
1074
01:11:02,327 --> 01:11:04,467
Good luck.
1075
01:11:04,501 --> 01:11:06,123
- You know, I-I-I'm staying
1076
01:11:06,158 --> 01:11:07,055
at the Sheraton.
1077
01:11:07,090 --> 01:11:08,540
Like I said, you can't be too
1078
01:11:08,574 --> 01:11:10,162
careful, especially in a city
1079
01:11:10,196 --> 01:11:11,232
like this.
1080
01:11:11,267 --> 01:11:12,198
I mean, you never know
1081
01:11:12,233 --> 01:11:13,579
who you're talking to.
1082
01:11:13,614 --> 01:11:14,787
You know, I'm not from Hawaii
1083
01:11:14,822 --> 01:11:16,237
originally, I'm from Georgia.
1084
01:11:16,272 --> 01:11:17,273
I grew up just outside
1085
01:11:17,307 --> 01:11:18,584
of Atlanta in Decatur.
1086
01:11:18,619 --> 01:11:19,999
You know-- Decatur, Georgia?
1087
01:11:20,034 --> 01:11:21,069
I've traveled all around
1088
01:11:21,104 --> 01:11:23,624
the world, but Hawaii is
the place I belong.
1089
01:11:23,658 --> 01:11:24,659
I probably wouldn't be alive
1090
01:11:24,694 --> 01:11:26,523
today if I hadn't moved there
three years ago.
1091
01:11:26,558 --> 01:11:28,594
You wouldn't believe what I went
there for.
1092
01:11:28,629 --> 01:11:29,561
I've lived
1093
01:11:29,595 --> 01:11:30,458
a very ironical life.
1094
01:11:30,493 --> 01:11:31,839
- I'll be back tomorrow night
1095
01:11:31,873 --> 01:11:32,529
with the picture.
1096
01:11:32,564 --> 01:11:33,496
- You really ought to wait.
1097
01:11:33,530 --> 01:11:34,945
I mean, they could be back any
1098
01:11:34,980 --> 01:11:35,981
minute, they'll be back
1099
01:11:36,015 --> 01:11:36,947
before midnight.
1100
01:11:36,982 --> 01:11:38,570
- Look, you got your autograph
from John.
1101
01:11:38,604 --> 01:11:39,847
Give it up for the day
1102
01:11:39,881 --> 01:11:40,882
and get some rest.
1103
01:11:40,917 --> 01:11:46,474
- No... I'm gonna get Yoko's.
1104
01:11:46,509 --> 01:11:50,340
Hey, uh, uh... why don't I take
your picture with him
1105
01:11:50,375 --> 01:11:52,929
when he comes back?
I know about cameras,
I've used 'em before.
1106
01:11:52,963 --> 01:11:54,344
- I see John all the time.
1107
01:11:54,379 --> 01:11:56,829
I can get my picture taken
with him anytime.
1108
01:11:56,864 --> 01:11:57,899
I'm going home.
1109
01:11:57,934 --> 01:12:00,626
- Well, suppose you don't see
him again?
1110
01:13:54,464 --> 01:13:56,466
- Chapman: Mr. Lennon?
1111
01:14:32,088 --> 01:14:35,471
- Yoko, sobbing: John...
1112
01:14:54,766 --> 01:14:55,836
- Doorman: Go, go--
1113
01:14:55,870 --> 01:14:56,975
get out of here!
1114
01:14:57,009 --> 01:14:58,045
- But where would I go?
1115
01:14:58,079 --> 01:15:00,357
- I don't know.
1116
01:15:10,540 --> 01:15:11,610
- Chapman: ...it was like
1117
01:15:11,645 --> 01:15:12,784
a movie.
1118
01:15:12,818 --> 01:15:15,925
It was like I was in a movie.
1119
01:15:15,959 --> 01:15:17,064
I got a gun.
1120
01:15:17,098 --> 01:15:19,515
I got hollow point bullets.
1121
01:15:19,549 --> 01:15:21,378
I thought he would just drop
1122
01:15:21,413 --> 01:15:22,448
right in front of me
1123
01:15:22,483 --> 01:15:24,520
and that was it.
1124
01:15:24,554 --> 01:15:26,142
I thought he was just gonna fall
1125
01:15:26,176 --> 01:15:28,558
down like in the movies...
1126
01:15:28,593 --> 01:15:30,905
fall down dead.
1127
01:15:46,334 --> 01:15:47,543
- Officer shouting: Police!
1128
01:15:47,577 --> 01:15:49,648
Freeze!Hands on your head!
1129
01:15:49,683 --> 01:15:52,133
Do it!Do it now!
1130
01:15:53,169 --> 01:15:55,205
- Police!Don't move!
1131
01:15:59,106 --> 01:16:00,521
- He shot John Lennon!
1132
01:16:48,776 --> 01:16:49,674
- Come on, John.
1133
01:16:49,708 --> 01:16:51,572
- Hold it there.
1134
01:16:51,607 --> 01:16:54,679
- Yeah, yeah, yes... o.k.
1135
01:16:54,713 --> 01:17:00,029
Come on... John, hang in.
1136
01:17:00,063 --> 01:17:02,687
Come on, come on.
1137
01:17:08,693 --> 01:17:09,521
- Chapman: Please,
1138
01:17:09,555 --> 01:17:12,697
don't hurt me.
1139
01:17:21,050 --> 01:17:22,741
...i murdered a man,
1140
01:17:22,776 --> 01:17:24,467
but not only did I fall,
1141
01:17:24,501 --> 01:17:25,986
I took a lot more with me
1142
01:17:26,020 --> 01:17:28,091
than just myself.
1143
01:17:28,126 --> 01:17:29,852
A whole era ended.
1144
01:17:29,886 --> 01:17:30,818
It was the last nail
1145
01:17:30,853 --> 01:17:34,235
in the coffin of the '60s.
1146
01:17:38,481 --> 01:17:39,516
- Man on tv: ...shortly
1147
01:17:39,551 --> 01:17:40,448
before 11 p.m.
1148
01:17:41,864 --> 01:17:43,348
He was dead on arrival.
1149
01:17:47,973 --> 01:17:49,354
- If you've been anywhere near
1150
01:17:49,388 --> 01:17:51,356
a television set or a radio
1151
01:17:51,390 --> 01:17:52,702
these past few hours,
1152
01:17:52,737 --> 01:17:53,703
you already know that
1153
01:17:53,738 --> 01:17:55,429
John Lennon of the Beatles
1154
01:17:55,463 --> 01:17:56,257
is dead.
1155
01:17:56,292 --> 01:17:57,224
- He's not dead.
1156
01:17:57,258 --> 01:18:00,434
John Lennon can't be dead.
1157
01:18:16,243 --> 01:18:17,175
- Woman on tv: The suspect
1158
01:18:17,209 --> 01:18:18,832
at this time is-- first of all,
1159
01:18:18,866 --> 01:18:20,350
his identity, 25-year-old
1160
01:18:20,385 --> 01:18:23,699
mark David chapman... he comes
1161
01:18:23,733 --> 01:18:24,458
from Hawaii.
1162
01:18:24,492 --> 01:18:25,562
Police tell me he's been
1163
01:18:25,597 --> 01:18:26,702
in the New York area about
1164
01:18:26,736 --> 01:18:29,877
a week, and began to hang around
1165
01:18:29,912 --> 01:18:31,534
the Dakota apartment over
1166
01:18:31,568 --> 01:18:33,191
the weekend, asking about
1167
01:18:33,225 --> 01:18:34,054
John Lennon.
1168
01:18:34,088 --> 01:18:35,365
He apparently ran into him
1169
01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:37,264
for the first time this evening
1170
01:18:37,298 --> 01:18:39,818
about 5:00, asking Lennon
1171
01:18:39,853 --> 01:18:41,268
for his autograph.
1172
01:18:41,302 --> 01:18:42,441
Lennon gave it to him on
1173
01:18:42,476 --> 01:18:45,962
the jacket cover of a record.
1174
01:18:45,997 --> 01:18:47,412
Lennon went off to a recording
1175
01:18:47,446 --> 01:18:48,931
session and we are told that
1176
01:18:48,965 --> 01:18:51,657
chapman remained at the hotel
1177
01:18:51,692 --> 01:18:53,936
until mr. Lennon returned
1178
01:18:53,970 --> 01:18:56,214
about 11:00 this evening.
1179
01:18:56,248 --> 01:18:57,974
Police officials, um, describe
1180
01:18:58,009 --> 01:18:59,735
what happened this way: They say
1181
01:18:59,769 --> 01:19:00,770
that chapman came up
1182
01:19:00,805 --> 01:19:02,461
from behind, yelled out
1183
01:19:02,496 --> 01:19:04,498
mr. Lennon's name and emptied
1184
01:19:04,532 --> 01:19:06,258
a .38 revolver...
1185
01:19:07,121 --> 01:19:08,019
...there were at least
1186
01:19:08,053 --> 01:19:09,020
five shots spent...
1187
01:19:11,056 --> 01:19:12,092
...there is very little known
1188
01:19:12,126 --> 01:19:14,335
about 25-year-old chapman.
1189
01:19:14,370 --> 01:19:16,648
He has been taken to the 20th
1190
01:19:16,682 --> 01:19:19,478
police precinct, fingerprinted.
1191
01:19:19,513 --> 01:19:20,790
They're checking for prior
1192
01:19:20,825 --> 01:19:23,103
arrest records, also for
1193
01:19:23,137 --> 01:19:24,552
any motive.
1194
01:19:24,587 --> 01:19:26,175
They don't have any yet...
1195
01:19:26,209 --> 01:19:27,245
- Officer: Hurry up in there.
1196
01:19:27,279 --> 01:19:28,177
- They've charged him
1197
01:19:28,211 --> 01:19:29,040
officially with murder,
1198
01:19:29,074 --> 01:19:30,662
but the reason for this attack--
1199
01:19:30,696 --> 01:19:31,628
unknown.
1200
01:19:31,663 --> 01:19:33,630
- Officer: Have a seat.
1201
01:19:36,461 --> 01:19:39,326
O.k., calm down, all right?
1202
01:19:40,810 --> 01:19:41,984
I'm going to take off your
1203
01:19:42,018 --> 01:19:43,364
cuffs, make you a little bit
1204
01:19:43,399 --> 01:19:44,055
more comfortable.
1205
01:19:54,168 --> 01:19:55,618
State your name.
1206
01:19:55,652 --> 01:19:57,309
- Mark David chapman.
1207
01:19:57,344 --> 01:19:58,655
- Your age?
1208
01:19:58,690 --> 01:19:59,795
- 25.
1209
01:19:59,829 --> 01:20:01,106
- Your address.
1210
01:20:01,141 --> 01:20:02,867
- 55 Kukui street,
1211
01:20:02,901 --> 01:20:04,351
Honolulu, Hawaii.
1212
01:20:04,385 --> 01:20:06,318
- O.k., do me a favor
and stand up.
1213
01:20:06,353 --> 01:20:09,149
I just want to check
your pockets.
1214
01:20:17,191 --> 01:20:19,642
Have a seat, all right?
1215
01:20:32,966 --> 01:20:33,932
- Chapman: I remember a lot
1216
01:20:33,967 --> 01:20:35,554
of pain and a lot of confusion
1217
01:20:35,589 --> 01:20:38,109
when I dictated the statement.
1218
01:20:38,143 --> 01:20:39,938
I was in a very unreal,
1219
01:20:39,973 --> 01:20:41,629
very surreal world.
1220
01:20:41,664 --> 01:20:43,666
I was in an utter panic of sheer
1221
01:20:43,700 --> 01:20:45,288
terror and wanted things to go
1222
01:20:45,323 --> 01:20:46,911
back to the way they were before
1223
01:20:46,945 --> 01:20:49,879
I had pulled the trigger.
1224
01:20:49,914 --> 01:20:52,226
I felt anger spreading over
1225
01:20:52,261 --> 01:20:53,676
my mind as I was dictating
1226
01:20:53,710 --> 01:20:54,884
the statement and talking about
1227
01:20:54,919 --> 01:20:57,404
catcher in the rye,like I was
1228
01:20:57,438 --> 01:20:59,647
being sucked into a giant wave
1229
01:20:59,682 --> 01:21:01,339
that I couldn't swim out of
1230
01:21:01,373 --> 01:21:02,788
or even come up for air.
1231
01:21:07,138 --> 01:21:10,727
...i didn't wanna kill anybody.
1232
01:21:10,762 --> 01:21:12,315
And I really don't know why
1233
01:21:12,350 --> 01:21:14,559
I did it.
1234
01:21:14,593 --> 01:21:17,942
I asked god to help me...
1235
01:21:17,976 --> 01:21:19,909
but we're all responsible
1236
01:21:19,944 --> 01:21:21,807
for our own actions.
1237
01:21:25,190 --> 01:21:26,260
I came to New York
1238
01:21:26,295 --> 01:21:30,540
five weeks ago.
1239
01:21:30,575 --> 01:21:32,301
I stayed at the Y.M.C.A.
1240
01:21:32,335 --> 01:21:33,681
On 62nd street...
1241
01:21:48,317 --> 01:21:50,146
- Female reporter: Mourners
began gathering here soon after
1242
01:21:50,181 --> 01:21:54,185
the news of Lennon's death and
there are easily now a thousand
1243
01:21:54,219 --> 01:21:57,326
mourners who've come to pay
tribute to him.
1244
01:21:57,360 --> 01:22:00,260
At the beginning, it was a very
solemn vigil.
1245
01:22:00,294 --> 01:22:01,502
Many held candles...
1246
01:22:01,537 --> 01:22:02,503
- ...up to
1247
01:22:02,538 --> 01:22:05,230
a thousand admirers at one time.
1248
01:22:05,265 --> 01:22:06,714
Lennon's wife, Yoko Ono, at one
1249
01:22:06,749 --> 01:22:10,615
time sent a message down asking
the mourners to disperse,
1250
01:22:10,649 --> 01:22:13,721
and most of them did, but they
are starting to return again,
1251
01:22:13,756 --> 01:22:18,071
playing the familiar songs that
are so connected with John
1252
01:22:18,105 --> 01:22:21,246
Lennon and some also for
the Beatles as a group.
1253
01:22:21,281 --> 01:22:24,698
The feeling is of tremendous
loss and these people feel it
1254
01:22:24,732 --> 01:22:25,975
very personally.
1255
01:22:26,010 --> 01:22:27,563
The profound loss to the music
1256
01:22:27,597 --> 01:22:30,324
world is... is yet to be
accounted for.
1257
01:22:30,359 --> 01:22:31,360
- Detective: You guys all set?
1258
01:22:31,394 --> 01:22:32,637
- Officer: Come on, look alive,
1259
01:22:32,671 --> 01:22:33,569
let's get going.
1260
01:22:33,603 --> 01:22:35,467
Move it.
1261
01:22:35,502 --> 01:22:39,057
- Give me a vest.
1262
01:22:39,092 --> 01:22:41,473
Hold him up right here.
1263
01:22:41,508 --> 01:22:42,923
Get the vest on him.
1264
01:22:42,958 --> 01:22:44,994
- Take your glasses off.
1265
01:22:45,029 --> 01:22:47,686
Hold your hands up.
1266
01:22:47,721 --> 01:22:49,033
- I'm not gonna have jack ruby
1267
01:22:49,067 --> 01:22:50,482
kill you in my station house,
1268
01:22:50,517 --> 01:22:52,795
you understand?
1269
01:22:52,829 --> 01:22:54,452
Come on, secure that.
1270
01:22:54,486 --> 01:22:55,660
All right, listen up, guys.
1271
01:22:55,694 --> 01:22:56,972
We got the man who shot
1272
01:22:57,006 --> 01:22:57,973
John Lennon here.
1273
01:22:58,007 --> 01:22:59,905
I don't want any Oswalds,
1274
01:22:59,940 --> 01:23:00,665
you got it?
1275
01:23:00,699 --> 01:23:01,562
- Give me a coat,
1276
01:23:01,597 --> 01:23:02,667
I want a coat.
1277
01:23:02,701 --> 01:23:06,705
- Get him a coat.
No fuck-ups, you understand me?
1278
01:23:06,740 --> 01:23:08,121
You ready?
1279
01:23:08,155 --> 01:23:10,019
Move.
1280
01:23:10,054 --> 01:23:12,435
The door.
1281
01:23:12,470 --> 01:23:14,437
Move it up, all right, let's go.
1282
01:23:15,438 --> 01:23:16,715
- Detective: Jesus christ!
1283
01:23:16,750 --> 01:23:18,821
Get them back-- let's go!
1284
01:23:18,855 --> 01:23:22,790
Move the fuck back!
1285
01:23:26,242 --> 01:23:27,140
- Chapman: I remember from
1286
01:23:27,174 --> 01:23:29,107
the darkness inside the coat
1287
01:23:29,142 --> 01:23:30,626
a tremendous tumult occurring
1288
01:23:30,660 --> 01:23:32,490
as we walked from one door
1289
01:23:32,524 --> 01:23:34,871
to another door.
1290
01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:45,365
- Chapman: I looked down...
1291
01:23:45,399 --> 01:23:47,263
and the ground was lit up
1292
01:23:47,298 --> 01:23:49,196
by white light.
1293
01:23:49,231 --> 01:23:51,612
It was almost like I was walking
1294
01:23:51,647 --> 01:23:53,614
on just one giant, pulsating
1295
01:23:53,649 --> 01:23:57,411
beam of light under my feet.
1296
01:24:08,664 --> 01:24:11,805
- Move back!
1297
01:24:19,951 --> 01:24:21,608
- Jesus christ!
1298
01:24:23,161 --> 01:24:26,130
- Officer: Shh.
1299
01:24:26,164 --> 01:24:28,925
- Culley, get on the door.
1300
01:24:28,960 --> 01:24:29,581
Relax.
1301
01:24:41,283 --> 01:24:43,147
So...
1302
01:24:43,181 --> 01:24:44,941
why'd you do it?
1303
01:24:52,052 --> 01:24:54,986
- I like John Lennon.
1304
01:25:02,166 --> 01:25:04,685
- Detective: So do I.
1305
01:25:04,720 --> 01:25:05,790
- Boss, it's clear.
1306
01:25:05,824 --> 01:25:08,689
Let's go.
1307
01:25:08,724 --> 01:25:10,450
- Culley, let's go.
1308
01:25:19,390 --> 01:25:21,254
- Chapman: I was mr. Nobody
1309
01:25:21,288 --> 01:25:23,083
till I killed the biggest
1310
01:25:23,118 --> 01:25:24,774
somebody on earth.
1311
01:25:40,963 --> 01:25:41,860
- Male reporter: Outside the
1312
01:25:41,895 --> 01:25:44,069
courtroom were many Lennon fans.
1313
01:25:44,104 --> 01:25:45,519
Security measures were strict
1314
01:25:45,554 --> 01:25:47,142
when they filed in as there've
1315
01:25:47,176 --> 01:25:48,246
been many threats against
1316
01:25:48,281 --> 01:25:52,388
chapman's life since the murder.
1317
01:25:52,423 --> 01:25:54,356
- Chapman: I was nothing...
1318
01:25:54,390 --> 01:25:56,530
then I was a big shot.
1319
01:25:56,565 --> 01:25:57,807
This was the hottest thing
1320
01:25:57,842 --> 01:25:59,533
in the city at the time.
1321
01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:05,367
- Detective: Who are you?
1322
01:26:05,401 --> 01:26:06,264
Get out of here!
1323
01:26:06,299 --> 01:26:08,128
Get out of here!
1324
01:26:08,163 --> 01:26:10,475
Get the fuck out of here now!
1325
01:26:10,510 --> 01:26:11,442
Get him in the car!
1326
01:26:11,476 --> 01:26:12,995
Get him in the fuckin' car!
1327
01:26:13,029 --> 01:26:15,308
Let's go!
1328
01:26:20,934 --> 01:26:22,142
Let's go!
1329
01:26:41,161 --> 01:26:42,024
- Female reporter: 25-year-old
1330
01:26:42,058 --> 01:26:43,991
mark David chapman of Hawaii was
1331
01:26:44,026 --> 01:26:45,648
described as having a smirk
1332
01:26:45,683 --> 01:26:46,822
on his face.
1333
01:26:46,856 --> 01:26:48,548
Police, calling him a "wacko,"
1334
01:26:48,582 --> 01:26:49,894
charged him with murder.
1335
01:26:49,928 --> 01:26:51,654
John's wife, Yoko Ono, issued
1336
01:26:51,689 --> 01:26:53,242
a statement to the weeping crowd
1337
01:26:53,277 --> 01:26:55,037
of 500 who gathered quickly
1338
01:26:55,071 --> 01:26:56,556
outside the co-op.
1339
01:26:56,590 --> 01:26:58,247
She said, "John loved and prayed
1340
01:26:58,282 --> 01:26:59,490
for the human race.
1341
01:26:59,524 --> 01:27:01,906
Please do the same for him."
1342
01:27:01,940 --> 01:27:03,597
John Lennon and Paul McCartney
1343
01:27:03,632 --> 01:27:05,185
wrote more hit songs than any
1344
01:27:05,220 --> 01:27:06,807
composers in modern history,
1345
01:27:06,842 --> 01:27:08,257
and they're generally considered
1346
01:27:08,292 --> 01:27:09,638
to have been the spirit behind
1347
01:27:09,672 --> 01:27:11,018
many of the social changes
1348
01:27:11,053 --> 01:27:13,504
of the '60s and '70s.
1349
01:27:13,538 --> 01:27:15,644
- Hey, get back down there.
1350
01:27:15,678 --> 01:27:17,370
All I care about is getting you
1351
01:27:17,404 --> 01:27:18,992
out of here before someone kills
1352
01:27:19,026 --> 01:27:20,994
you, you understand?
1353
01:27:28,967 --> 01:27:29,658
- Male reporter: At the
1354
01:27:29,692 --> 01:27:30,521
arraignment mark David chapman
1355
01:27:30,555 --> 01:27:31,625
was charged with second-degree
1356
01:27:31,660 --> 01:27:33,040
murder, the most serious charge
1357
01:27:33,075 --> 01:27:34,870
in New York state for killing
1358
01:27:34,904 --> 01:27:36,596
a non-law officer.
1359
01:27:36,630 --> 01:27:37,631
He was then taken here
1360
01:27:37,666 --> 01:27:38,805
to bellevue hospital
1361
01:27:38,839 --> 01:27:39,702
for psychiatric exams.
1362
01:27:40,462 --> 01:27:41,739
...everywhere he goes, chapman
1363
01:27:41,773 --> 01:27:42,843
is forced to wear two
1364
01:27:42,878 --> 01:27:44,224
bulletproof jackets.
1365
01:27:44,259 --> 01:27:45,190
The threat of a lynching
1366
01:27:45,225 --> 01:27:46,916
is almost too much for police.
1367
01:27:46,951 --> 01:27:48,435
- They fear that fans might
1368
01:27:48,470 --> 01:27:50,955
decide to storm the hospital.
1369
01:28:07,972 --> 01:28:08,662
- Chapman: I remember
1370
01:28:08,697 --> 01:28:09,525
cockroaches and
1371
01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:11,113
I remember filth...
1372
01:28:11,147 --> 01:28:12,977
and I remember a smell...
1373
01:28:13,011 --> 01:28:15,876
I remember loud disco music,
1374
01:28:15,911 --> 01:28:17,809
and I remember just a terrible
1375
01:28:17,844 --> 01:28:19,328
feeling of something like
1376
01:28:19,363 --> 01:28:22,262
a Fellini film.
1377
01:28:34,792 --> 01:28:35,793
- Female reporter: ...and music
1378
01:28:35,827 --> 01:28:36,932
critic Robert palmer who
1379
01:28:36,966 --> 01:28:38,002
recently interviewed
1380
01:28:38,036 --> 01:28:38,865
John Lennon.
1381
01:28:38,899 --> 01:28:40,107
John Coleman, of course, will
1382
01:28:40,142 --> 01:28:41,592
bring us weather news this
1383
01:28:41,626 --> 01:28:44,215
morning, but now at 30 minutes,
1384
01:28:44,249 --> 01:28:46,493
almost 31, after 7:00,
1385
01:28:46,528 --> 01:28:48,115
Steve bell has the news.
1386
01:28:48,150 --> 01:28:49,427
- Bell: Thank you, Stephanie.
1387
01:28:49,462 --> 01:28:50,532
Good morning, everyone.
1388
01:28:50,566 --> 01:28:52,499
New York city police have now
1389
01:28:52,534 --> 01:28:54,363
arrested and charged a suspect
1390
01:28:54,398 --> 01:28:55,606
in last night's murder
1391
01:28:55,640 --> 01:28:56,503
of John Lennon.
1392
01:28:56,538 --> 01:28:58,436
He's 25-year-old David chapman
1393
01:28:58,471 --> 01:29:00,369
of Hawaii who police say had
1394
01:29:00,404 --> 01:29:01,508
been in New York for about
1395
01:29:01,543 --> 01:29:03,130
a week, apparently stalking
1396
01:29:03,165 --> 01:29:03,890
Lennon.
1397
01:29:03,924 --> 01:29:05,443
The police describe chapman
1398
01:29:05,478 --> 01:29:06,444
as "a wacko."
1399
01:29:06,479 --> 01:29:08,204
They say he shot Lennon five
1400
01:29:08,239 --> 01:29:09,965
times as the musician returned
1401
01:29:09,999 --> 01:29:11,518
to his apartment last night,
1402
01:29:11,553 --> 01:29:13,175
then dropped his gun and waited
1403
01:29:13,209 --> 01:29:13,900
for police.
1404
01:29:13,934 --> 01:29:15,142
Authorities say they do not know
1405
01:29:15,177 --> 01:29:17,144
of any motive for that killing.
1406
01:29:17,179 --> 01:29:18,491
Informed of Lennon's death this
1407
01:29:18,525 --> 01:29:20,044
morning, his former songwriter
1408
01:29:20,078 --> 01:29:21,839
partner in the Beatles, Paul
1409
01:29:21,873 --> 01:29:23,530
McCartney said, "I can't take
1410
01:29:23,565 --> 01:29:25,463
it, John was a great guy.
1411
01:29:25,498 --> 01:29:26,637
He's going to be missed
1412
01:29:26,671 --> 01:29:27,465
by the whole world."
1413
01:29:27,500 --> 01:29:28,604
As June Massell reports, many of
1414
01:29:28,639 --> 01:29:30,675
John Lennon's fans and admirers
1415
01:29:30,710 --> 01:29:31,952
heard about his death on late
1416
01:29:31,987 --> 01:29:35,266
night radio music programs.
1417
01:29:35,300 --> 01:29:36,474
- John Lennon will be
1418
01:29:36,509 --> 01:29:37,648
remembered as a gifted
1419
01:29:37,682 --> 01:29:39,201
and talented musician.
1420
01:29:39,235 --> 01:29:40,409
The Beatles were the top pop
1421
01:29:40,444 --> 01:29:42,135
music group in the world from
1422
01:29:42,169 --> 01:29:43,688
the time their first album
1423
01:29:43,723 --> 01:29:45,621
was released in 1964
1424
01:29:45,656 --> 01:29:48,486
until they broke up in 1970.
1425
01:29:48,521 --> 01:29:49,867
With Lennon at the time of the
1426
01:29:49,901 --> 01:29:52,179
shooting was his wife, Yoko Ono,
1427
01:29:52,214 --> 01:29:53,974
who Lennon once said helped him
1428
01:29:54,009 --> 01:29:55,320
find his identity.
1429
01:29:55,355 --> 01:29:56,908
When doctors told her Lennon was
1430
01:29:56,943 --> 01:29:58,841
dead, she cried, "tell me
1431
01:29:58,876 --> 01:30:00,256
it isn't true."
1432
01:30:00,291 --> 01:30:03,777
June Massell, abc news, Chicago.
1433
01:30:10,163 --> 01:30:11,440
- Chapman: I didn't care what
1434
01:30:11,475 --> 01:30:13,408
the doctors thought about me.
1435
01:30:13,442 --> 01:30:15,858
I was above and beyond them.
1436
01:30:15,893 --> 01:30:18,551
I was with a pure, holy purpose
1437
01:30:18,585 --> 01:30:20,207
and there was nothing they could
1438
01:30:20,242 --> 01:30:23,348
do that would touch it.
1439
01:30:23,383 --> 01:30:27,456
I thought they were all phonies.
1440
01:30:27,491 --> 01:30:31,495
I became a savior, a prophet.
1441
01:30:31,529 --> 01:30:33,600
The catcher in the rye
1442
01:30:33,635 --> 01:30:35,153
of my generation.
1443
01:31:08,014 --> 01:31:12,328
- Hello, mr. Chapman.
1444
01:31:12,363 --> 01:31:14,123
How are you?
1445
01:31:19,474 --> 01:31:20,302
Have you had
1446
01:31:20,336 --> 01:31:23,754
a comfortable night?
1447
01:31:23,788 --> 01:31:27,274
- I slept fine.
1448
01:31:27,309 --> 01:31:29,380
- Good.
1449
01:31:29,414 --> 01:31:31,416
Do you know where you are?
1450
01:31:31,451 --> 01:31:33,695
- Bellevue hospital.
1451
01:31:33,729 --> 01:31:35,213
- Mm-hmm, right.
1452
01:31:35,248 --> 01:31:36,525
- Correct.
1453
01:31:36,560 --> 01:31:38,769
- Why are you here?
1454
01:31:38,803 --> 01:31:39,873
- For the murder
1455
01:31:39,908 --> 01:31:41,841
of John Lennon.
1456
01:31:43,152 --> 01:31:46,777
- Did you kill John Lennon?
1457
01:31:46,811 --> 01:31:48,917
- You ought to know that.
1458
01:31:48,951 --> 01:31:53,508
- Yes, I do.
1459
01:31:53,542 --> 01:31:56,476
- Next question.
1460
01:31:56,511 --> 01:32:01,723
- Why did you kill John Lennon?
1461
01:32:01,757 --> 01:32:04,346
- Uh, that's tough to answer.
1462
01:32:04,380 --> 01:32:06,797
Probably, uh... a number
1463
01:32:06,831 --> 01:32:10,007
of different reasons.
1464
01:32:10,041 --> 01:32:11,871
- Let's start,
I have a lot of time.
1465
01:32:11,905 --> 01:32:13,700
- I'm sure you do.
1466
01:32:13,735 --> 01:32:14,632
A lot of questions,
1467
01:32:14,667 --> 01:32:16,634
a lot of answers.
1468
01:32:16,669 --> 01:32:19,119
- You provide the answers.
1469
01:32:19,154 --> 01:32:21,536
I ask the questions.
1470
01:32:24,642 --> 01:32:29,233
So, give me one reason.
1471
01:32:29,267 --> 01:32:30,303
- Because I thought
1472
01:32:30,337 --> 01:32:31,684
he was a phoney.
1473
01:32:31,718 --> 01:32:34,376
- A phoney. - Mm-hmm.
1474
01:32:34,410 --> 01:32:35,584
- Didn't like his music,
1475
01:32:35,619 --> 01:32:36,758
is that it?
1476
01:32:36,792 --> 01:32:37,828
- No, actually,
1477
01:32:37,862 --> 01:32:40,451
I loved his music.
1478
01:32:40,485 --> 01:32:43,178
- You didn't like his lyrics?
1479
01:32:43,212 --> 01:32:45,007
- Well, I... I thought
1480
01:32:45,042 --> 01:32:46,250
I understood his lyrics,
1481
01:32:46,284 --> 01:32:50,081
but I guess I didn't.
1482
01:32:50,116 --> 01:32:51,117
- What's phoney
1483
01:32:51,151 --> 01:32:57,641
about John Lennon?
1484
01:32:57,675 --> 01:32:58,676
Have you ever thought
1485
01:32:58,711 --> 01:33:03,957
about death before?Killing?
1486
01:33:06,270 --> 01:33:09,031
- Killing... yeah, I have
1487
01:33:09,066 --> 01:33:09,791
thought about death,
1488
01:33:09,825 --> 01:33:12,483
I have thought about killing.
1489
01:33:12,517 --> 01:33:15,106
I just killed a man.
1490
01:33:15,141 --> 01:33:18,627
Is that killing enough for you?
1491
01:33:18,662 --> 01:33:19,766
- Do you ever think about
1492
01:33:19,801 --> 01:33:23,045
suicide or taking yourself out
1493
01:33:23,080 --> 01:33:25,289
of pain in some other way?
1494
01:33:25,323 --> 01:33:26,428
- Yeah, I've thought
1495
01:33:26,462 --> 01:33:28,361
about suicide.
1496
01:33:28,395 --> 01:33:30,156
I tried to wipe myself out
1497
01:33:30,190 --> 01:33:32,641
before I wiped John Lennon out.
1498
01:33:32,676 --> 01:33:35,195
- You did?
- Yeah.
1499
01:33:35,230 --> 01:33:37,646
- And what happened?
1500
01:33:37,681 --> 01:33:39,821
- I couldn't do it.
1501
01:33:39,855 --> 01:33:41,339
I was too chicken.
1502
01:33:41,374 --> 01:33:42,099
- You were, huh?
1503
01:33:42,133 --> 01:33:43,583
- Yeah, went up on top of the
1504
01:33:43,618 --> 01:33:49,589
empire state building... and...
1505
01:33:49,624 --> 01:33:52,143
wanted to blow my brains out.
1506
01:33:52,178 --> 01:33:53,213
- Why is that?
1507
01:33:54,352 --> 01:33:57,010
I believe nobody's ever done
1508
01:33:57,045 --> 01:33:59,495
it before.
1509
01:33:59,530 --> 01:34:03,914
It would be all over
the newspapers.
1510
01:34:03,948 --> 01:34:06,882
- What stopped you?
1511
01:34:06,917 --> 01:34:09,713
- Picturing myself...
1512
01:34:09,747 --> 01:34:11,887
hittin' the bottom.
1513
01:34:11,922 --> 01:34:13,924
The fear... the fear
1514
01:34:13,958 --> 01:34:18,307
of physical pain.
1515
01:34:18,342 --> 01:34:22,035
Pictured my brains
on the ground.
1516
01:34:22,070 --> 01:34:23,347
I thought I still might
1517
01:34:23,381 --> 01:34:25,625
be alive.
1518
01:34:29,733 --> 01:34:34,703
- Do you have that same picture
in your head about John Lennon?
1519
01:34:34,738 --> 01:34:40,744
Do you think he felt
the pain you felt?
1520
01:34:40,778 --> 01:34:47,992
- Well, I'm sure he felt, uh...
pain... I don't know... I guess
1521
01:34:48,027 --> 01:34:51,409
I didn't really know him.
1522
01:34:55,724 --> 01:35:01,281
- Did he do something to you,
personally?
1523
01:35:03,214 --> 01:35:04,802
I don't want to talk anymore.
1524
01:35:04,837 --> 01:35:07,702
I don't want to talk
about the killing.
1525
01:35:07,736 --> 01:35:11,257
I'm trying to block it out
of my mind.
1526
01:35:11,291 --> 01:35:12,534
- Why is that?
1527
01:35:12,568 --> 01:35:16,020
- Why do you think?
1528
01:35:16,055 --> 01:35:18,057
- I don't know.
1529
01:35:18,091 --> 01:35:19,472
- Have you ever killed anyone?
1530
01:35:19,506 --> 01:35:21,232
- No, I haven't.
1531
01:35:21,267 --> 01:35:24,132
- You ever seen someone dead?
1532
01:35:24,166 --> 01:35:25,029
- Yes.
1533
01:35:25,064 --> 01:35:28,067
- Bullet wounds, blood?
1534
01:35:28,101 --> 01:35:33,072
- Did you get excited
about that?
1535
01:35:33,106 --> 01:35:36,592
- I'm done talking.
1536
01:35:47,293 --> 01:35:53,678
- It's conviction, you want,
is it?
1537
01:35:53,713 --> 01:35:54,990
Or is it fame?
1538
01:35:55,025 --> 01:35:56,371
- We're done.
1539
01:35:56,405 --> 01:35:58,131
I'm done... talking.
1540
01:35:58,166 --> 01:35:59,443
- You certainly are.
1541
01:35:59,477 --> 01:36:00,409
- Yeah, yeah.
1542
01:36:00,444 --> 01:36:02,342
- Thank you, mr. Chapman.
1543
01:36:02,377 --> 01:36:07,762
It was great talking to you.
1544
01:36:44,799 --> 01:36:47,802
- Automated female voice:
Step through.
1545
01:37:09,582 --> 01:37:10,376
...for this killer.
1546
01:37:10,410 --> 01:37:11,480
- Clear.
1547
01:37:15,968 --> 01:37:18,211
Step through.
1548
01:37:41,062 --> 01:37:44,410
- Inmate: Hey, killer!
1549
01:37:50,347 --> 01:37:53,281
See you soon, killer!
1550
01:38:01,668 --> 01:38:02,462
- Male reporter: Lennon's
1551
01:38:02,497 --> 01:38:03,774
killer had several days of
1552
01:38:03,808 --> 01:38:05,638
psychiatric examination under
1553
01:38:05,672 --> 01:38:08,158
a 24-hour suicide watch before
1554
01:38:08,192 --> 01:38:10,263
being moved to Rikers island
1555
01:38:10,298 --> 01:38:11,644
jail to a more secure cell
1556
01:38:11,678 --> 01:38:13,439
for his own protection from
1557
01:38:13,473 --> 01:38:14,405
other prisoners...
1558
01:38:14,440 --> 01:38:15,337
- Guard: Do you want
1559
01:38:15,372 --> 01:38:16,062
to give me that?
1560
01:38:16,097 --> 01:38:17,719
- N-no, it's o.k.
1561
01:38:17,753 --> 01:38:18,685
- ...following a threat
1562
01:38:18,720 --> 01:38:20,653
scrawled on a prison wall.
1563
01:38:20,687 --> 01:38:23,311
"you don't have much time left.
1564
01:38:23,345 --> 01:38:27,142
Soon, killer. Soon."
1565
01:38:30,766 --> 01:38:31,802
- Chapman: Within days,
1566
01:38:31,836 --> 01:38:32,976
the lawyer assigned
1567
01:38:33,010 --> 01:38:36,358
to represent me withdrew.
1568
01:38:36,393 --> 01:38:37,704
This from a guy with a rep
1569
01:38:37,739 --> 01:38:40,673
for defending no-hope clients.
1570
01:38:58,622 --> 01:39:00,796
I began reading catcheragain
1571
01:39:00,831 --> 01:39:02,281
and it was like I was reading
1572
01:39:02,315 --> 01:39:04,628
a whole other book from
1573
01:39:04,662 --> 01:39:06,250
the one I had read before,
1574
01:39:06,285 --> 01:39:07,631
like I was reading a blueprint
1575
01:39:07,665 --> 01:39:11,014
of what had happened to me.
1576
01:39:11,048 --> 01:39:11,980
I made a list of
1577
01:39:12,015 --> 01:39:15,225
50 total coincidences.
1578
01:39:15,259 --> 01:39:16,951
It was like the whole killing
1579
01:39:16,985 --> 01:39:18,780
was set up by destiny, just
1580
01:39:18,814 --> 01:39:21,541
something that was meant to be.
1581
01:39:21,576 --> 01:39:23,233
That's when I realized that
1582
01:39:23,267 --> 01:39:24,648
John Lennon had been killed
1583
01:39:24,682 --> 01:39:25,890
to promote the reading of
1584
01:39:25,925 --> 01:39:28,514
the catcher in the rye.
1585
01:39:28,548 --> 01:39:30,861
And that same electric
current passed through
1586
01:39:30,895 --> 01:39:33,381
my body again and lit up all
1587
01:39:33,415 --> 01:39:36,971
the cells of my brain.
1588
01:39:47,153 --> 01:39:51,295
I became euphoric, knowing
now there was a reason beyond
1589
01:39:51,330 --> 01:39:54,540
myself for what I had done.
1590
01:39:55,817 --> 01:39:57,819
- Male reporter: Shots have
reportedly been fired as
1591
01:39:57,853 --> 01:39:58,820
president Reagan left
1592
01:39:58,854 --> 01:40:01,719
the Washington Hilton hotel
this afternoon.
1593
01:40:01,754 --> 01:40:04,136
White house officials say
the president was not hit,
1594
01:40:04,170 --> 01:40:08,623
but there are reports that three
people were wounded by gunfire.
1595
01:40:13,317 --> 01:40:14,629
Correspondent Joe Ewog was there
1596
01:40:14,663 --> 01:40:16,044
when the shooting happened.
1597
01:40:16,079 --> 01:40:17,114
- A quick series
1598
01:40:17,149 --> 01:40:20,014
of explosions, uh, sounding
like firecrackers.
1599
01:40:20,048 --> 01:40:21,567
...into the back seat by one of
1600
01:40:21,601 --> 01:40:22,982
the secret service agents.
1601
01:40:23,017 --> 01:40:24,535
Uh, right after that,
there was a...
1602
01:40:24,570 --> 01:40:25,985
- He got that from me.
1603
01:40:26,020 --> 01:40:27,228
- ...policemen swarming around,
1604
01:40:27,262 --> 01:40:28,401
uh, the man with the gun,
1605
01:40:28,436 --> 01:40:30,231
uh, surged back towards where
1606
01:40:30,265 --> 01:40:31,508
I was standing near one of
1607
01:40:31,542 --> 01:40:32,750
the doors to the hotel.
1608
01:40:32,785 --> 01:40:33,613
They quickly subdued and
1609
01:40:33,648 --> 01:40:34,856
wrestled him to the ground and
1610
01:40:34,890 --> 01:40:36,340
then put him in a police car.
1611
01:40:36,375 --> 01:40:37,341
- Male reporter: John hinckley,
1612
01:40:37,376 --> 01:40:38,308
jr. Had become obsessed
1613
01:40:38,342 --> 01:40:40,068
by movie actress Jodie foster
1614
01:40:40,103 --> 01:40:41,897
and had imagined that she would
1615
01:40:41,932 --> 01:40:43,968
be impressed if he murdered
1616
01:40:44,003 --> 01:40:46,419
the president.
1617
01:40:46,454 --> 01:40:48,352
- Chapman: Good idea.
1618
01:40:48,387 --> 01:40:49,388
I had a backup list
1619
01:40:49,422 --> 01:40:51,424
but Reagan wasn't on it.
1620
01:40:51,459 --> 01:40:53,150
I was going for, uh, Jackie
1621
01:40:53,185 --> 01:40:57,327
Onassis, George c. Scott, Johnny
1622
01:40:57,361 --> 01:41:01,434
Carson if I couldn't get Lennon.
1623
01:41:08,269 --> 01:41:11,134
- Very anxious...
1624
01:41:11,168 --> 01:41:12,445
hyperventilating
1625
01:41:12,480 --> 01:41:15,241
and exhausted...
1626
01:41:15,276 --> 01:41:16,725
cooperative.
1627
01:41:16,760 --> 01:41:20,626
Insatiable need for attention.
1628
01:41:20,660 --> 01:41:21,420
- Have you seen, uh,
1629
01:41:21,454 --> 01:41:24,388
any other doctors at all?
1630
01:41:24,423 --> 01:41:25,424
- Grandiose visions
1631
01:41:25,458 --> 01:41:28,220
of himself...
1632
01:41:28,254 --> 01:41:30,981
mood fluctuations.
1633
01:41:31,015 --> 01:41:32,051
- Bingo.
1634
01:41:32,086 --> 01:41:35,399
- Paranoid tendencies...
1635
01:41:35,434 --> 01:41:37,125
rage.
1636
01:41:37,160 --> 01:41:38,230
- What was the logic
1637
01:41:38,264 --> 01:41:40,611
behind all this?
1638
01:41:40,646 --> 01:41:44,132
But you said you loved the man.
1639
01:41:44,167 --> 01:41:46,169
- Tell me about your mother.
1640
01:41:46,203 --> 01:41:49,896
Are you able to see that...
1641
01:41:49,931 --> 01:41:51,243
you're a separate person
1642
01:41:51,277 --> 01:41:55,212
from the person in the book?
1643
01:41:59,285 --> 01:42:00,114
- Chapman: My mission was
1644
01:42:00,148 --> 01:42:02,150
now to promote the catcher in
1645
01:42:02,185 --> 01:42:03,841
the rye.
1646
01:42:03,876 --> 01:42:05,326
I was gonna use my trial, the
1647
01:42:05,360 --> 01:42:07,983
trial of a century, to promote
1648
01:42:08,018 --> 01:42:13,092
the reading of that book.
1649
01:42:13,127 --> 01:42:14,645
- Two weeks before the trial,
1650
01:42:14,680 --> 01:42:15,888
chapman has instructed
1651
01:42:15,922 --> 01:42:17,476
his lawyers that he wishes
1652
01:42:17,510 --> 01:42:19,063
to plead guilty.
1653
01:42:19,098 --> 01:42:20,375
In a statement today, chapman
1654
01:42:20,410 --> 01:42:22,826
says that god had spoken to him
1655
01:42:22,860 --> 01:42:25,484
and wanted him to plead guilty.
1656
01:42:25,518 --> 01:42:27,106
Defense lawyer Jonathan marks
1657
01:42:27,141 --> 01:42:29,315
has asked judge Dennis Edwards
1658
01:42:29,350 --> 01:42:31,248
to have a panel re-examine him
1659
01:42:31,283 --> 01:42:32,870
to determine if he was competent
1660
01:42:32,905 --> 01:42:35,287
enough to make such a decision.
1661
01:42:35,321 --> 01:42:40,464
The judge refused.
1662
01:42:40,499 --> 01:42:42,535
- Chapman: I was never mad.
1663
01:42:42,570 --> 01:42:44,399
I was blessed.
1664
01:42:44,434 --> 01:42:45,918
But there was one more task
1665
01:42:45,952 --> 01:42:48,886
I had to endure.
1666
01:42:48,921 --> 01:42:54,064
I had to be purified...
exorcised.
1667
01:42:54,098 --> 01:42:56,031
- I know you, satan.
1668
01:42:56,066 --> 01:42:57,136
- I'm a christian.
1669
01:42:57,171 --> 01:42:59,483
I can't be possessed.
1670
01:42:59,518 --> 01:43:01,796
- I command you, Satan,
to come out.
1671
01:43:01,830 --> 01:43:02,762
- I summoned them up.
1672
01:43:02,797 --> 01:43:04,212
They're not inside.
1673
01:43:08,492 --> 01:43:09,769
...no!
1674
01:43:11,461 --> 01:43:12,393
- It is christ who
1675
01:43:12,427 --> 01:43:13,325
commands you.
1676
01:43:18,744 --> 01:43:24,577
- Do you believe in God?
The devil?
1677
01:43:31,481 --> 01:43:33,966
- Chapman: Have you ever woken
up from a deep sleep with
1678
01:43:34,000 --> 01:43:35,243
the sensation that something
1679
01:43:35,278 --> 01:43:37,832
evil is in the room?
1680
01:43:37,866 --> 01:43:39,247
You're not really awake,
1681
01:43:39,282 --> 01:43:40,662
but you're not really
1682
01:43:40,697 --> 01:43:43,217
dreaming either.
1683
01:43:43,251 --> 01:43:44,425
Your eyes won't open more
1684
01:43:44,459 --> 01:43:46,220
than about halfway.
1685
01:43:46,254 --> 01:43:49,084
You just feel paralyzed
with a fear that's so powerful,
1686
01:43:49,119 --> 01:43:50,983
you don't know who you are.
1687
01:43:51,017 --> 01:43:54,814
You're so frightened you've
virtually lost your identity.
1688
01:43:54,849 --> 01:43:56,920
Fear can do that, you know.
1689
01:43:56,954 --> 01:44:00,855
It can strip you of
your identity.
1690
01:44:00,889 --> 01:44:01,580
There's nothing more
1691
01:44:01,614 --> 01:44:05,135
frightening than that... I know.
1692
01:44:06,826 --> 01:44:10,589
- Holy lord, almighty
father, everlasting god
1693
01:44:10,623 --> 01:44:11,900
and father of our lord
1694
01:44:11,935 --> 01:44:15,870
Jesus Christ who once and for
all consigned that fallen tyrant
1695
01:44:15,904 --> 01:44:17,699
to the flames of hell...
1696
01:44:18,459 --> 01:44:19,736
...who sent your only begotten
1697
01:44:19,770 --> 01:44:21,427
son into the world to crush
1698
01:44:21,462 --> 01:44:23,464
that roaring lion...
1699
01:44:23,498 --> 01:44:25,707
- Chapman: I was in
a very surreal world.
1700
01:44:25,742 --> 01:44:27,571
I was in an utter panic of sheer
1701
01:44:27,606 --> 01:44:28,745
terror and wanted things
1702
01:44:28,779 --> 01:44:30,505
to go back to the way they were
1703
01:44:30,540 --> 01:44:34,026
before I pulled the trigger.
1704
01:44:35,614 --> 01:44:39,342
- Bobby caldwell:
1705
01:45:09,337 --> 01:45:10,062
- Chapman: My whole life
1706
01:45:10,096 --> 01:45:12,720
was like that at that time...
1707
01:45:12,754 --> 01:45:15,516
a half-waking nightmare.
1708
01:45:15,550 --> 01:45:16,517
I couldn't wake up and
1709
01:45:16,551 --> 01:45:19,347
I couldn't sleep it away.
1710
01:45:19,382 --> 01:45:20,279
I was scared to death
1711
01:45:20,314 --> 01:45:22,108
but I couldn't scream.
1712
01:45:22,143 --> 01:45:23,765
I would try to scream and it
1713
01:45:23,800 --> 01:45:25,698
would remain echoing in my chest
1714
01:45:25,733 --> 01:45:29,081
without even being vocalized.
1715
01:45:29,115 --> 01:45:30,462
And that was what came out
1716
01:45:30,496 --> 01:45:31,601
that night in December
1717
01:45:31,635 --> 01:45:32,947
when John Lennon stepped out
1718
01:45:32,981 --> 01:45:35,536
of his limousine.
1719
01:45:35,570 --> 01:45:36,916
What came out of the barrel of
1720
01:45:36,951 --> 01:45:39,022
that gun that night was a giant
1721
01:45:39,056 --> 01:45:43,026
scream after all those years.
1722
01:46:00,699 --> 01:46:01,596
...listen to some of
1723
01:46:01,631 --> 01:46:03,287
the Lennon records.
1724
01:46:03,322 --> 01:46:04,254
Listen to the background
1725
01:46:04,288 --> 01:46:06,567
of some of the Beatles' songs.
1726
01:46:06,601 --> 01:46:09,466
That screaming in the
background, that's John Lennon.
1727
01:46:09,501 --> 01:46:11,019
Listen to him scream when he's
1728
01:46:11,054 --> 01:46:12,331
singing about not having his
1729
01:46:12,366 --> 01:46:14,368
mother, about being abandoned
1730
01:46:14,402 --> 01:46:17,440
by his mother and his father.
1731
01:46:17,474 --> 01:46:18,889
Poor guy's father left
1732
01:46:18,924 --> 01:46:21,029
the family then his mother
1733
01:46:21,064 --> 01:46:22,376
left him to be raised by
1734
01:46:22,410 --> 01:46:24,205
his aunt and uncle.
1735
01:46:24,239 --> 01:46:26,276
Then his mother got killed
1736
01:46:26,310 --> 01:46:27,519
after she came back to him
1737
01:46:27,553 --> 01:46:30,591
after all those years.
1738
01:46:30,625 --> 01:46:32,282
Just to think after a person had
1739
01:46:32,316 --> 01:46:33,594
been through all that he had
1740
01:46:33,628 --> 01:46:35,216
been through as a child,
1741
01:46:35,250 --> 01:46:36,424
then to get murdered by
1742
01:46:36,459 --> 01:46:41,360
somebody like me.
1743
01:46:41,395 --> 01:46:42,430
- Uh, thank you all
1744
01:46:42,465 --> 01:46:44,984
very much and god bless you.
1745
01:47:08,594 --> 01:47:09,388
- Male reporter: Under heavy
1746
01:47:09,423 --> 01:47:10,389
guard, mark chapman was brought
1747
01:47:10,424 --> 01:47:11,942
from prison to the state supreme
1748
01:47:11,977 --> 01:47:13,461
court in manhattan to hear
1749
01:47:13,496 --> 01:47:14,738
the judge's sentence.
1750
01:47:14,773 --> 01:47:16,464
Chapman showed no emotion
1751
01:47:16,499 --> 01:47:17,810
whatsoever when the sentence of
1752
01:47:17,845 --> 01:47:20,123
20 years-to-life was handed out,
1753
01:47:20,157 --> 01:47:21,642
but before that moment, there
1754
01:47:21,676 --> 01:47:23,229
was to be detailed evidence
1755
01:47:23,264 --> 01:47:27,441
about his state of mind.
1756
01:47:27,475 --> 01:47:28,683
- Chapman sat in a blue
1757
01:47:28,718 --> 01:47:30,305
t-shirt holding a copy of
1758
01:47:30,340 --> 01:47:31,721
catcher in the rye.
1759
01:47:31,755 --> 01:47:33,205
When the judge asked if he had
1760
01:47:33,239 --> 01:47:34,344
anything to say before the
1761
01:47:34,378 --> 01:47:36,484
sentence, chapman rose and read
1762
01:47:36,519 --> 01:47:39,107
a short passage from the book.
1763
01:47:39,142 --> 01:47:40,143
- Chapman: "...and I'm standing
1764
01:47:40,177 --> 01:47:42,352
at the edge of this crazy cliff.
1765
01:47:42,386 --> 01:47:44,009
What I have to do, I have
1766
01:47:44,043 --> 01:47:44,906
to catch everybody if
1767
01:47:44,941 --> 01:47:47,322
they start to go over the cliff.
1768
01:47:47,357 --> 01:47:48,462
I mean, if they're running and
1769
01:47:48,496 --> 01:47:49,566
they don't look where they're
1770
01:47:49,601 --> 01:47:51,085
going, I have to come out from
1771
01:47:51,119 --> 01:47:52,776
somewhere and catch them.
1772
01:47:52,811 --> 01:47:55,952
That's all I'll do all day.
1773
01:47:55,986 --> 01:47:57,298
I'd just stand there and be
1774
01:47:57,332 --> 01:47:59,714
the catcher in the rye and all.
1775
01:47:59,749 --> 01:48:00,888
I know it's crazy,
1776
01:48:00,922 --> 01:48:02,337
but that's the only thing
1777
01:48:02,372 --> 01:48:04,823
I'd really like to be.
1778
01:48:04,857 --> 01:48:06,997
I know it's crazy."
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