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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:49,463 --> 00:00:50,533 - Man, narrating: There was 2 00:00:50,567 --> 00:00:52,431 no emotion in my blood. 3 00:00:52,466 --> 00:00:53,708 There was no anger. 4 00:00:53,743 --> 00:00:55,434 There was nothing. 5 00:00:55,469 --> 00:00:58,817 It was dead silence in my brain. 6 00:00:58,851 --> 00:01:01,440 Dead, cold quiet. 7 00:01:01,475 --> 00:01:03,132 He looked at me... 8 00:01:03,166 --> 00:01:05,030 he walked past me... 9 00:01:05,065 --> 00:01:07,136 and then I heard my head. 10 00:01:07,170 --> 00:01:09,655 It said, "do it, do it, do it, 11 00:01:09,690 --> 00:01:12,624 do it," over and over again. 12 00:02:02,605 --> 00:02:09,439 The catcher in the rye of my generation, chapter 27. 13 00:02:38,572 --> 00:02:42,541 My whole life has pointed in one direction. 14 00:02:42,576 --> 00:02:44,957 I can see that now. 15 00:02:44,992 --> 00:02:47,201 There has never been any choice for me. 16 00:03:00,490 --> 00:03:04,322 You never find your identity by looking for it. 17 00:03:25,239 --> 00:03:26,240 - Ronald Reagan on radio: They 18 00:03:26,275 --> 00:03:27,414 say that the united states has 19 00:03:27,448 --> 00:03:29,070 had its day in the sun, that our 20 00:03:29,105 --> 00:03:31,728 nation has passed its zenith... 21 00:03:31,763 --> 00:03:33,351 they expect you to tell your 22 00:03:33,385 --> 00:03:35,215 children that the American 23 00:03:35,249 --> 00:03:37,838 people no longer have the will 24 00:03:37,872 --> 00:03:39,702 to cope with their problems, 25 00:03:39,736 --> 00:03:41,186 that the future will be one of 26 00:03:41,221 --> 00:03:44,258 sacrifice and few opportunities. 27 00:03:44,293 --> 00:03:48,573 My fellow citizens, I utterly reject that view. 28 00:04:42,074 --> 00:04:43,421 - Hey, man, you're late. 29 00:04:43,455 --> 00:04:44,801 - I thought you weren't in 30 00:04:44,836 --> 00:04:46,113 till Monday. 31 00:04:46,147 --> 00:04:49,496 - Boss called... Arthur's ill... new guy ain't here yet. 32 00:04:49,530 --> 00:04:50,635 - You're kidding. 33 00:04:50,669 --> 00:04:52,119 It's almost 11:30. 34 00:04:52,153 --> 00:04:52,844 - I know. 35 00:04:52,878 --> 00:04:55,329 I've been here since 7. 36 00:04:55,364 --> 00:04:57,849 - Man on tv: ...will get things under way there in the 37 00:04:57,883 --> 00:04:59,333 music hall... 38 00:04:59,368 --> 00:05:00,576 - What's going on over there? 39 00:05:00,610 --> 00:05:03,544 - Woman on tv: Good evening... 40 00:05:03,579 --> 00:05:04,476 - Someone jammed gum 41 00:05:04,511 --> 00:05:06,444 in the locks. 42 00:05:06,478 --> 00:05:07,514 - Animals. - That's what I said. 43 00:05:07,548 --> 00:05:10,102 - Next Tuesday is election day. 44 00:05:10,137 --> 00:05:12,035 Before going to the polls, 45 00:05:12,070 --> 00:05:13,899 voters want to understand 46 00:05:13,934 --> 00:05:14,693 the issues. 47 00:05:14,728 --> 00:05:15,625 - Chapman: You called in? 48 00:05:15,660 --> 00:05:16,799 - It's all yours. 49 00:05:16,833 --> 00:05:17,593 - Voters will have an 50 00:05:17,627 --> 00:05:20,837 opportunity to see and hear the 51 00:05:20,872 --> 00:05:22,874 major party candidates for the 52 00:05:22,908 --> 00:05:26,671 presidency state their views on 53 00:05:26,705 --> 00:05:29,432 issues that affect us all. 54 00:05:29,467 --> 00:05:30,537 - Man on tv: The candidates 55 00:05:30,571 --> 00:05:32,435 will debate questions on 56 00:05:32,470 --> 00:05:34,057 domestic, economic, foreign 57 00:05:34,092 --> 00:05:35,887 policy and national security 58 00:05:35,921 --> 00:05:36,888 issues. 59 00:05:36,922 --> 00:05:38,268 The questions are going to be 60 00:05:38,303 --> 00:05:40,063 posed by a panel of 61 00:05:40,098 --> 00:05:41,617 distinguished journalists who 62 00:05:41,651 --> 00:05:42,756 are here with me. 63 00:05:43,515 --> 00:05:44,861 ...they are: Marvin stone, the 64 00:05:44,896 --> 00:05:46,863 editor of u.s. News & world 65 00:05:46,898 --> 00:05:47,864 report... 66 00:05:54,837 --> 00:05:58,012 - Yes, hello? 67 00:05:58,047 --> 00:05:59,151 Hello? 68 00:05:59,186 --> 00:06:00,532 - Chapman on phone: Bang-bang, 69 00:06:00,567 --> 00:06:02,396 you're dead. 70 00:06:02,431 --> 00:06:04,156 - Hello? 71 00:06:27,559 --> 00:06:28,629 - Twelve hours of work 72 00:06:28,664 --> 00:06:31,736 and I still can't sleep. 73 00:06:31,770 --> 00:06:34,497 The days go on and on... 74 00:06:34,532 --> 00:06:37,707 and they don't end. 75 00:06:37,742 --> 00:06:41,193 My body fights me, always. 76 00:06:41,228 --> 00:06:43,989 It won't sleep, it won't eat. 77 00:06:47,924 --> 00:06:52,204 The headaches are getting worse. 78 00:07:14,434 --> 00:07:15,296 - Thank you, 79 00:07:15,331 --> 00:07:16,436 me too. 80 00:07:16,470 --> 00:07:22,027 Hey... mark. - Mother... 81 00:07:22,062 --> 00:07:23,546 - Hey. 82 00:07:23,581 --> 00:07:24,961 - What are you doing? 83 00:07:24,996 --> 00:07:26,756 - Well, it's very nice to see 84 00:07:26,791 --> 00:07:29,000 you too, mark. 85 00:07:29,034 --> 00:07:30,242 - Everything o.k. Over here? 86 00:07:30,277 --> 00:07:31,209 - Oh, yeah, sure, 87 00:07:31,243 --> 00:07:32,279 everything's fine. 88 00:07:32,313 --> 00:07:33,211 This is Makana. 89 00:07:33,245 --> 00:07:34,661 Makana, this is mark. 90 00:07:34,695 --> 00:07:35,455 Mark is an old-- 91 00:07:35,489 --> 00:07:36,317 - I'm her son. 92 00:07:36,352 --> 00:07:38,803 - Oh... you... 93 00:07:39,528 --> 00:07:41,771 Don't listen to him. 94 00:07:41,806 --> 00:07:43,117 I was really never much of a 95 00:07:43,152 --> 00:07:44,843 mother to him, we were more like 96 00:07:44,878 --> 00:07:45,672 best friends. 97 00:07:45,706 --> 00:07:47,915 Weren't we, mark?- Mmm. 98 00:07:47,950 --> 00:07:49,296 - Mind you, where we come from, 99 00:07:49,330 --> 00:07:50,159 sometimes that's one 100 00:07:50,193 --> 00:07:51,056 and the same. 101 00:07:51,091 --> 00:07:53,438 Makana's gonna take me surfin'. 102 00:07:56,855 --> 00:08:01,239 - Bye! 103 00:08:01,273 --> 00:08:02,309 - Chapman: My mother was a 104 00:08:02,343 --> 00:08:05,519 dreamer... moody... right out of 105 00:08:05,554 --> 00:08:07,728 glass menagerie. 106 00:08:07,763 --> 00:08:08,936 She was afraid of getting old 107 00:08:08,971 --> 00:08:10,386 and said she'd commit suicide 108 00:08:10,420 --> 00:08:12,871 when she turned 50. 109 00:08:12,906 --> 00:08:14,424 She felt romantic about 110 00:08:14,459 --> 00:08:17,013 Charles Boyer, but remote 111 00:08:17,048 --> 00:08:21,293 from my father. 112 00:08:21,328 --> 00:08:22,950 I don't think I ever hugged 113 00:08:22,985 --> 00:08:24,055 my father. 114 00:08:24,089 --> 00:08:25,850 He never told me he loved me and 115 00:08:25,884 --> 00:08:28,991 he never said he was sorry. 116 00:08:29,025 --> 00:08:29,923 My mother always said he 117 00:08:29,957 --> 00:08:31,062 couldn't show these kinds of 118 00:08:31,096 --> 00:08:33,513 things, couldn't show any kind 119 00:08:33,547 --> 00:08:36,861 of emotional love. 120 00:08:40,312 --> 00:08:41,728 One time, he pushed my head 121 00:08:41,762 --> 00:08:47,596 in a plate of spaghetti. 122 00:08:47,630 --> 00:08:49,287 Sometimes I fantasized about 123 00:08:49,321 --> 00:08:50,806 getting a gun and blowing 124 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:53,878 him away. 125 00:08:56,363 --> 00:08:58,192 She said she only married him 126 00:08:58,227 --> 00:09:01,471 to have me. 127 00:09:06,994 --> 00:09:07,926 Why? 128 00:09:27,221 --> 00:09:28,982 Normal kids don't grow up 129 00:09:29,016 --> 00:09:30,949 to shoot ex-Beatles. 130 00:09:48,588 --> 00:09:51,867 All my life needed was a sense 131 00:09:51,901 --> 00:09:55,215 of someplace to go. 132 00:09:55,249 --> 00:09:56,423 I don't believe you should 133 00:09:56,457 --> 00:09:58,045 devote your life to morbid 134 00:09:58,080 --> 00:09:59,737 self-attention. 135 00:09:59,771 --> 00:10:01,324 I believe that one should become 136 00:10:01,359 --> 00:10:06,088 a person like other people. 137 00:10:12,128 --> 00:10:14,993 I was starting to hate people. 138 00:10:15,028 --> 00:10:16,236 The slightest rebuff or 139 00:10:16,270 --> 00:10:17,547 rejection would send me 140 00:10:17,582 --> 00:10:18,790 into a frenzy. 141 00:10:54,619 --> 00:10:58,105 Bang-bang, you're dead. 142 00:10:58,140 --> 00:11:02,696 Bang-bang, you're dead. 143 00:11:22,854 --> 00:11:24,097 ...i began withdrawing 144 00:11:24,131 --> 00:11:27,445 from the world. 145 00:12:27,712 --> 00:12:30,232 I was losing everything 146 00:12:30,266 --> 00:12:31,647 I cared about. 147 00:13:06,475 --> 00:13:07,717 ... Things used 148 00:13:07,752 --> 00:13:10,582 to be o.k. 149 00:13:10,617 --> 00:13:12,377 ... I just don't know 150 00:13:12,412 --> 00:13:13,102 if I can... 151 00:13:13,137 --> 00:13:14,621 if I can keep up, o.k.? 152 00:13:14,655 --> 00:13:16,796 If I can keep up with 153 00:13:16,830 --> 00:13:19,453 everything... everything, 154 00:13:19,488 --> 00:13:20,420 you know? 155 00:13:20,454 --> 00:13:25,183 You... mom... my job... I can't come down. 156 00:13:25,218 --> 00:13:27,945 In my head, I can't come down! 157 00:13:27,979 --> 00:13:30,119 I feel like a victim right now, o.k.? 158 00:13:30,154 --> 00:13:31,880 I just feel like I have no 159 00:13:31,914 --> 00:13:33,157 control over my world... 160 00:13:33,191 --> 00:13:35,953 over ourworld, you know, and I need you. 161 00:13:35,987 --> 00:13:37,609 I need you to understand! 162 00:13:37,644 --> 00:13:38,852 Do you understand? 163 00:13:38,887 --> 00:13:42,235 Understand me, please! 164 00:14:06,431 --> 00:14:07,570 - We know it's you. 165 00:14:07,605 --> 00:14:13,887 - Yeah? 166 00:14:13,922 --> 00:14:14,612 - If you persist 167 00:14:14,646 --> 00:14:15,268 in harassing... 168 00:14:15,302 --> 00:14:16,510 - Oh, come on. 169 00:14:16,545 --> 00:14:18,305 - If you persist in harassing us, you'll be served with 170 00:14:18,340 --> 00:14:19,410 a restraining order. 171 00:14:19,444 --> 00:14:21,722 - Yeah, and what the fuck do you think this is? 172 00:14:21,757 --> 00:14:22,896 You get people to buy into 173 00:14:22,931 --> 00:14:24,208 this crap and then you screw their savings. 174 00:14:24,242 --> 00:14:25,968 - No. - And then you force them to 175 00:14:26,003 --> 00:14:26,935 take out a second mortgage. 176 00:14:26,969 --> 00:14:27,901 - This is your last warning. 177 00:14:27,936 --> 00:14:29,144 - And we of the church believe 178 00:14:29,178 --> 00:14:31,940 that the laws of god forbid man to destroy his own kind. 179 00:14:31,974 --> 00:14:33,251 - Correct. - To destroy the sanity of another. 180 00:14:33,286 --> 00:14:34,149 - Correct. 181 00:14:34,183 --> 00:14:35,598 - To destroy or enslave another soul. 182 00:14:35,633 --> 00:14:36,841 - If you persist, we'll call 183 00:14:36,876 --> 00:14:37,635 the police and inform 184 00:14:37,669 --> 00:14:40,362 the medical authorities. 185 00:14:40,396 --> 00:14:42,053 I'm sure you don't want to go 186 00:14:42,088 --> 00:14:44,918 back to the hospital. 187 00:14:44,953 --> 00:14:46,057 Castle memorial mental 188 00:14:46,092 --> 00:14:48,232 health clinic. 189 00:14:48,266 --> 00:14:53,168 June 21st, 1977. 190 00:14:53,202 --> 00:14:54,376 - A science fiction writer 191 00:14:54,410 --> 00:14:56,240 is not a god. 192 00:14:56,274 --> 00:14:58,690 You're not a religion. 193 00:15:19,849 --> 00:15:21,368 ...my life was either happiness 194 00:15:21,403 --> 00:15:23,543 or despair. 195 00:15:23,577 --> 00:15:24,820 I had no stable sense 196 00:15:24,854 --> 00:15:27,443 of self-esteem. 197 00:15:27,478 --> 00:15:33,933 I felt I was nothing, a nobody. 198 00:15:44,805 --> 00:15:49,638 I took refuge in public places. 199 00:15:49,672 --> 00:15:51,709 I loved the library. 200 00:15:51,743 --> 00:15:54,884 I loved the smell of books. 201 00:15:54,919 --> 00:15:57,094 All that learning. 202 00:15:57,128 --> 00:15:58,129 It's the essence 203 00:15:58,164 --> 00:15:59,510 of something orderly. 204 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:12,488 Miss Blakeslee taught me 205 00:16:12,523 --> 00:16:14,663 the value of books. 206 00:16:14,697 --> 00:16:17,390 Thurber... ogden nash... 207 00:16:17,424 --> 00:16:19,254 once a month she brought us in 208 00:16:19,288 --> 00:16:20,772 and taught us how to use 209 00:16:20,807 --> 00:16:22,671 the library. 210 00:16:22,705 --> 00:16:28,470 I volunteered as an assistant. 211 00:16:28,504 --> 00:16:30,403 Things you like as a child stay 212 00:16:30,437 --> 00:16:36,547 with you for life. 213 00:16:36,581 --> 00:16:38,135 I was searching for some kind of 214 00:16:38,169 --> 00:16:41,897 guidance... a mission... 215 00:16:41,931 --> 00:16:46,591 and for my sins, I found one. 216 00:16:52,494 --> 00:16:56,429 I hadn't read it since I was 16. 217 00:16:56,463 --> 00:16:59,018 Now it burned in my hand. 218 00:16:59,052 --> 00:17:00,536 It was like an electric current 219 00:17:00,571 --> 00:17:01,779 passing through my body, 220 00:17:01,813 --> 00:17:03,160 lighting up all the cells 221 00:17:03,194 --> 00:17:05,127 in my brain. 222 00:17:05,162 --> 00:17:06,163 Here was something I could 223 00:17:06,197 --> 00:17:09,338 identify with, an unphoney way 224 00:17:09,373 --> 00:17:10,719 of life. 225 00:17:10,753 --> 00:17:13,273 And the more I read, the more 226 00:17:13,308 --> 00:17:16,621 I saw myself in its pages. 227 00:17:16,656 --> 00:17:18,209 I was actually becoming its 228 00:17:18,244 --> 00:17:21,350 hero, holden Caulfield. 229 00:17:32,775 --> 00:17:33,845 I started reading the catcher in 230 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:35,468 the ryeand I couldn't put it 231 00:17:35,502 --> 00:17:37,573 down until I got to the end. 232 00:17:37,608 --> 00:17:40,231 And then I read it again. 233 00:17:40,266 --> 00:17:41,681 And I held it between my hands 234 00:17:41,715 --> 00:17:43,165 and I put it against my face 235 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:44,580 and I inhaled deeply. 236 00:17:44,615 --> 00:17:46,272 And I read it again, drinking in 237 00:17:46,306 --> 00:17:47,825 the aroma that's sort of... 238 00:17:49,102 --> 00:17:50,345 Antiseptic smell... 239 00:17:51,863 --> 00:17:52,830 ...between my nostrils and my 240 00:17:52,864 --> 00:17:53,831 skin, drinking in the aroma... 241 00:17:53,865 --> 00:17:55,936 that sort of antiseptic smell... 242 00:17:58,215 --> 00:17:59,768 ...my nostrils and my skin... 243 00:17:59,802 --> 00:18:01,494 a way to live an honest life, 244 00:18:01,528 --> 00:18:03,358 an unphoney way of life is a way 245 00:18:03,392 --> 00:18:05,014 that I can identify with. 246 00:18:10,227 --> 00:18:11,400 I remember my mind 247 00:18:11,435 --> 00:18:12,919 is disheveled. 248 00:18:12,953 --> 00:18:13,954 It's ripped and torn. 249 00:18:13,989 --> 00:18:15,473 There is a tornado in my mind, 250 00:18:15,508 --> 00:18:19,132 circling around my brain. 251 00:18:19,167 --> 00:18:20,685 Bits and pieces crashing into 252 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:22,377 the walls. 253 00:18:22,411 --> 00:18:23,516 The debris. 254 00:18:23,550 --> 00:18:27,140 Broken things, cloudy things... things I can't see. 255 00:18:45,607 --> 00:18:46,470 ...well? 256 00:18:46,504 --> 00:18:48,472 - I don't see much point in it. 257 00:18:48,506 --> 00:18:49,680 - You realize this is one of 258 00:18:49,714 --> 00:18:50,957 the most brilliant studies of 259 00:18:50,991 --> 00:18:52,786 adolescence ever written? 260 00:18:52,821 --> 00:18:56,411 - He sounds a mess to me. 261 00:18:56,445 --> 00:18:59,793 - Of course he's a mess, but he realizes he's a mess. 262 00:18:59,828 --> 00:19:01,933 He tries to express what he feels. 263 00:19:01,968 --> 00:19:02,934 He's a human being 264 00:19:02,969 --> 00:19:05,247 for all his faults. 265 00:19:05,282 --> 00:19:07,076 - I don't like the way he talks. 266 00:19:07,111 --> 00:19:08,492 - I don't like the way you 267 00:19:08,526 --> 00:19:09,803 talk, but I listen. 268 00:19:09,838 --> 00:19:12,358 - I suppose it's very clever, 269 00:19:12,392 --> 00:19:13,669 the way he writes and all. 270 00:19:13,704 --> 00:19:14,946 - Gloria, I gave you the book 271 00:19:14,981 --> 00:19:16,085 because I thought you would 272 00:19:16,120 --> 00:19:19,296 identify with him... with me. 273 00:19:19,330 --> 00:19:20,676 I'm holden Caulfield. 274 00:19:20,711 --> 00:19:21,953 He doesn't fit anywhere 275 00:19:21,988 --> 00:19:23,023 and I don't. 276 00:19:23,058 --> 00:19:24,749 Don't you even read books? 277 00:19:24,784 --> 00:19:25,647 - I read books. 278 00:19:25,681 --> 00:19:27,545 - No, not magazines and travel 279 00:19:27,580 --> 00:19:29,375 brochures and books about Japan, 280 00:19:29,409 --> 00:19:33,482 but realbooks, realbooks with emotions and real people. 281 00:19:33,517 --> 00:19:35,657 - Yes, I do, actually. 282 00:19:35,691 --> 00:19:38,177 And who says Japan doesn't have real people? 283 00:19:38,211 --> 00:19:40,489 - Well, Japan... you know what I mean. 284 00:19:40,524 --> 00:19:42,560 That's why you need to 285 00:19:42,595 --> 00:19:43,596 understand the catcher. 286 00:19:43,630 --> 00:19:45,114 You need to understand holden. 287 00:19:45,149 --> 00:19:47,807 If you understand holden... 288 00:19:47,841 --> 00:19:49,429 how you gonna understand me? 289 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,160 Real books, I'm talking about 290 00:19:56,195 --> 00:19:59,198 art and literature and you know, 291 00:19:59,232 --> 00:20:00,060 things that people read. 292 00:20:00,095 --> 00:20:01,545 - Don't be so arrogant. 293 00:20:01,579 --> 00:20:03,098 - I mean, don't you even 294 00:20:03,132 --> 00:20:05,065 feel sorry for him? 295 00:20:05,100 --> 00:20:06,170 ...i was identifying with 296 00:20:06,205 --> 00:20:07,896 a 16-year-old boy in a book in 297 00:20:07,930 --> 00:20:10,139 New York city, and here I am, 298 00:20:10,174 --> 00:20:15,938 a 25-year-old man in Hawaii who was married. ...hi. 299 00:20:15,973 --> 00:20:17,043 - Chapman's mother: Hi. 300 00:20:17,077 --> 00:20:18,113 - I'm holden Caulfield. 301 00:20:18,147 --> 00:20:19,632 He doesn't fit anywhere, 302 00:20:19,666 --> 00:20:20,702 and I don't. 303 00:20:20,736 --> 00:20:22,773 - This is not realistic. 304 00:20:22,807 --> 00:20:24,188 - Hi, honey. - I know. 305 00:20:24,223 --> 00:20:25,120 Well... sometimes 306 00:20:25,154 --> 00:20:26,363 I get aggravated. 307 00:20:26,397 --> 00:20:27,778 - O.k., it's all right. 308 00:20:27,812 --> 00:20:29,055 It's o.k. 309 00:20:29,089 --> 00:20:30,643 - Chapman: It was a statement. 310 00:20:30,677 --> 00:20:33,542 Here is my identity. 311 00:20:33,577 --> 00:20:36,994 Here is where my pain is. 312 00:20:48,557 --> 00:20:49,731 "I keep picturing all these 313 00:20:49,765 --> 00:20:50,973 little kids playing some game in 314 00:20:51,008 --> 00:20:53,838 this big field of rye and all. 315 00:20:53,873 --> 00:20:55,840 Thousands of little kids, 316 00:20:55,875 --> 00:20:57,773 and nobody's around... 317 00:20:57,808 --> 00:21:01,121 nobody big, I mean, except me, 318 00:21:01,156 --> 00:21:02,606 and I'm standing at the edge 319 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:04,677 of this crazy cliff. 320 00:21:04,711 --> 00:21:06,092 What I have to do, I have 321 00:21:06,126 --> 00:21:07,749 to catch everybody if they start 322 00:21:07,783 --> 00:21:09,371 to go over the cliff. 323 00:21:09,406 --> 00:21:10,614 I mean, if they're running and 324 00:21:10,648 --> 00:21:11,753 they don't look where they're 325 00:21:11,787 --> 00:21:13,237 going, I have to come out from 326 00:21:13,272 --> 00:21:14,894 somewhere and catch them. 327 00:21:14,928 --> 00:21:17,690 That's all I'll do all day. 328 00:21:17,724 --> 00:21:19,416 I'd just stand there and be 329 00:21:19,450 --> 00:21:22,315 the catcher in the rye and all. 330 00:21:22,350 --> 00:21:23,282 I know it's crazy, 331 00:21:23,316 --> 00:21:24,628 but that's the only thing 332 00:21:24,662 --> 00:21:26,526 I'd really like to be. 333 00:21:26,561 --> 00:21:32,014 I know it's crazy." 334 00:21:32,049 --> 00:21:37,882 Chapter 22... page 173. 335 00:21:51,171 --> 00:21:53,553 Then I found another book, 336 00:21:53,588 --> 00:21:54,692 just as holden Caulfield had 337 00:21:54,727 --> 00:21:58,075 bled through the ink of catcher, 338 00:21:58,109 --> 00:22:00,319 John Lennon now entered my mind. 339 00:22:05,393 --> 00:22:06,359 There was John Lennon 340 00:22:06,394 --> 00:22:08,637 on the cover. 341 00:22:08,672 --> 00:22:10,294 He was on liberty island where 342 00:22:10,329 --> 00:22:11,985 the statue of liberty is. 343 00:22:12,020 --> 00:22:13,470 He was right at the base of 344 00:22:13,504 --> 00:22:14,505 the statue of liberty with 345 00:22:14,540 --> 00:22:15,748 his glasses and cap with 346 00:22:15,782 --> 00:22:17,508 the scarf around his neck, 347 00:22:17,543 --> 00:22:20,580 having his photograph taken. 348 00:22:20,615 --> 00:22:21,788 I looked through the book at 349 00:22:21,823 --> 00:22:23,376 the pictures of John Lennon on 350 00:22:23,411 --> 00:22:24,722 the gabled roof of the Dakota 351 00:22:24,757 --> 00:22:26,345 building in New York. 352 00:22:32,420 --> 00:22:33,213 Those photographs of him 353 00:22:33,248 --> 00:22:34,387 on the roof, they entered 354 00:22:34,422 --> 00:22:35,630 my mind and they took on 355 00:22:35,664 --> 00:22:38,391 a life of their own. 356 00:22:38,426 --> 00:22:39,323 And at some point, 357 00:22:39,358 --> 00:22:42,430 after looking at those pictures, 358 00:22:42,464 --> 00:22:49,437 I became enraged at him. 359 00:22:49,471 --> 00:22:53,130 Something inside me just broke. 360 00:22:53,164 --> 00:22:55,339 The great John Lennon, who told 361 00:22:55,374 --> 00:22:58,480 us to imagine no possessions, 362 00:22:58,515 --> 00:22:59,964 and there he was with millions 363 00:22:59,999 --> 00:23:02,829 of dollars and yachts and farms 364 00:23:02,864 --> 00:23:04,141 and country estates, laughing at 365 00:23:04,175 --> 00:23:05,245 people like me who believed 366 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,524 all the lies and bought 367 00:23:07,558 --> 00:23:10,250 all the records. 368 00:23:10,285 --> 00:23:14,185 It reeked of phoniness. 369 00:23:14,220 --> 00:23:19,501 Confirmation. 370 00:23:19,536 --> 00:23:21,745 As soon as I saw that picture, 371 00:23:21,779 --> 00:23:28,061 I knew I was going to kill him. 372 00:23:37,174 --> 00:23:38,658 It was like I had been handed 373 00:23:38,693 --> 00:23:42,213 something, a solution. 374 00:23:42,248 --> 00:23:43,698 For the first time in years, all 375 00:23:43,732 --> 00:23:47,011 my thoughts were synchronized. 376 00:23:47,046 --> 00:23:48,461 It's what holden had fantasized 377 00:23:48,496 --> 00:23:50,049 about in the book, killing 378 00:23:50,083 --> 00:23:52,776 the big, fat guy in the hotel-- 379 00:23:52,810 --> 00:23:56,504 the pimp, the phoney. 380 00:24:02,993 --> 00:24:05,444 - All done for the morning, sir? 381 00:24:05,478 --> 00:24:06,928 - All through. - Yeah? 382 00:24:06,962 --> 00:24:07,653 Pretty rough night? 383 00:24:07,687 --> 00:24:09,344 - Oh, you know, the usual. 384 00:24:09,378 --> 00:24:12,589 - Yeah? 385 00:24:12,623 --> 00:24:14,936 Yeah. 386 00:24:19,423 --> 00:24:21,114 Well... you have yourself 387 00:24:21,149 --> 00:24:22,702 a good morning, sir. 388 00:24:22,737 --> 00:24:23,496 - You too, good-bye. 389 00:24:23,531 --> 00:24:28,605 - Good-bye, my friend. 390 00:24:35,163 --> 00:24:36,751 - Chapman: I had found my 391 00:24:36,785 --> 00:24:40,858 identity but I had lost my life. 392 00:24:40,893 --> 00:24:43,689 - Mark! 393 00:24:43,723 --> 00:24:45,104 Mark! 394 00:24:45,138 --> 00:24:46,312 Mark! 395 00:25:08,161 --> 00:25:09,404 - Chapman: I would sit up all 396 00:25:09,438 --> 00:25:11,302 night playing Beatles records, 397 00:25:11,337 --> 00:25:12,545 speeding them up, slowing them 398 00:25:12,580 --> 00:25:16,549 down, interjecting my own words. 399 00:25:16,584 --> 00:25:18,378 I would strip naked, gritting 400 00:25:18,413 --> 00:25:20,484 my teeth and summoning the devil 401 00:25:20,519 --> 00:25:24,592 and wild things in my mind. 402 00:25:24,626 --> 00:25:26,317 I was sending out telegrams to 403 00:25:26,352 --> 00:25:29,493 satan, "give me the opportunity 404 00:25:29,528 --> 00:25:34,084 to kill John Lennon." 405 00:25:38,985 --> 00:25:40,884 ...i'm 25 years old. 406 00:25:40,918 --> 00:25:42,161 I've made a decision. 407 00:25:42,195 --> 00:25:44,232 My decision... is I'm gonna 408 00:25:44,266 --> 00:25:45,474 go travel. 409 00:25:45,509 --> 00:25:46,372 - You're going to abandon 410 00:25:46,406 --> 00:25:47,615 your wife and your mother and 411 00:25:47,649 --> 00:25:49,444 leave... go thousands of miles 412 00:25:49,478 --> 00:25:50,997 away and you just want to start 413 00:25:51,032 --> 00:25:52,136 with New York City, right? 414 00:25:52,171 --> 00:25:53,137 - It's always about you, mother. 415 00:25:53,172 --> 00:25:54,242 I'm not abandoning, I'm not. 416 00:25:54,276 --> 00:25:55,761 - It's not about me. This is about you. 417 00:25:55,795 --> 00:25:58,349 You're the one who married her, little, helpless little girl, 418 00:25:58,384 --> 00:26:00,766 and now you're gonna go away and leave her... 419 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:02,008 Leave her in, 420 00:26:02,043 --> 00:26:02,906 under my care. 421 00:26:02,940 --> 00:26:04,148 I'm supposed to... 422 00:26:04,183 --> 00:26:06,047 - Well, Gloria is not under your care and Gloria is not 423 00:26:06,081 --> 00:26:08,428 helpless, and neither are you. 424 00:26:08,463 --> 00:26:10,085 So you take care of you. 425 00:26:10,120 --> 00:26:11,293 Gloria will be fine on 426 00:26:11,328 --> 00:26:12,916 her own, and I'll be back 427 00:26:12,950 --> 00:26:15,228 before you know it. 428 00:26:15,263 --> 00:26:16,989 - I'm not, I'm not buying it. 429 00:26:17,023 --> 00:26:18,438 - Well, you don't have to buy it. 430 00:26:18,473 --> 00:26:20,337 - I know when you're lying to me. 431 00:26:20,371 --> 00:26:21,718 Now, if there's a real reason 432 00:26:21,752 --> 00:26:24,134 why you feel the need to go back 433 00:26:24,168 --> 00:26:25,549 to New York city, I want you 434 00:26:25,584 --> 00:26:27,620 to tell it to me right now. 435 00:26:39,252 --> 00:26:41,703 My decision... is I'm gonna 436 00:26:41,738 --> 00:26:42,428 go travel. 437 00:26:42,462 --> 00:26:43,636 - I don't understand the whole 438 00:26:43,671 --> 00:26:44,499 thing with New York city... 439 00:26:44,533 --> 00:26:46,846 - You don't have to understand! 440 00:26:46,881 --> 00:26:48,158 O.k., I am just doing 441 00:26:48,192 --> 00:26:50,332 what I want to do! 442 00:26:50,367 --> 00:26:51,540 You don't need to understand 443 00:26:51,575 --> 00:26:56,407 everything that I do! 444 00:27:15,116 --> 00:27:16,220 ..."the phoney must die," 445 00:27:16,255 --> 00:27:18,878 says the catcher in the rye. 446 00:27:18,913 --> 00:27:19,914 "the phoney must 447 00:27:19,948 --> 00:27:21,640 die," says the catcher in 448 00:27:21,674 --> 00:27:27,128 the rye. 449 00:27:40,175 --> 00:27:41,349 - Can I help? 450 00:27:41,383 --> 00:27:42,350 - I need something for 451 00:27:42,384 --> 00:27:44,145 protection at home. 452 00:27:44,179 --> 00:27:47,010 - O.k., uh, anything in mind? 453 00:27:47,044 --> 00:27:48,321 - What would you suggest? 454 00:27:48,356 --> 00:27:49,668 - Well, if you get a .22 and 455 00:27:49,702 --> 00:27:51,083 a burglar comes in, he's just 456 00:27:51,117 --> 00:27:52,463 gonna laugh at you. 457 00:27:52,498 --> 00:27:54,017 Handy little gun-- it's fast, 458 00:27:54,051 --> 00:27:56,571 but don't do much damage. 459 00:27:56,605 --> 00:27:59,574 But... if you get a .38, 460 00:27:59,608 --> 00:28:01,956 nobody's gonna laugh at you. 461 00:28:01,990 --> 00:28:04,579 Fine, solid gun, blue steel, 462 00:28:04,613 --> 00:28:06,788 snub nose... otherwise the same 463 00:28:06,823 --> 00:28:11,206 as a police service revolver. 464 00:28:11,241 --> 00:28:12,760 Now, that will stop anything 465 00:28:12,794 --> 00:28:14,693 that moves and it's handy, 466 00:28:14,727 --> 00:28:17,488 flexible... it's lightweight, 467 00:28:17,523 --> 00:28:19,628 reliable. 468 00:28:19,663 --> 00:28:21,182 You know, some of these guns 469 00:28:21,216 --> 00:28:22,286 are like toys, but a smith 470 00:28:22,321 --> 00:28:25,013 & Wesson... you can hit somebody 471 00:28:25,048 --> 00:28:26,428 over the head with it and 472 00:28:26,463 --> 00:28:29,742 it'll still come back dead-on. 473 00:28:29,777 --> 00:28:32,193 You can't beat quality. 474 00:28:32,227 --> 00:28:39,131 You interested in an automatic? 475 00:28:39,165 --> 00:28:40,891 - How much? 476 00:28:40,926 --> 00:28:44,757 - With specialized grips... 477 00:28:44,792 --> 00:28:46,725 169. 478 00:28:46,759 --> 00:28:50,832 - O.k., I'll take it. 479 00:29:00,842 --> 00:29:02,395 ...hi, I'd like a ticket 480 00:29:02,430 --> 00:29:05,605 to New York, one way. 481 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:06,848 - Woman on phone: So long 482 00:29:06,883 --> 00:29:08,263 as you fill out a form and 483 00:29:08,298 --> 00:29:09,851 the firearm and ammunition 484 00:29:09,886 --> 00:29:10,576 are packed separately... 485 00:29:10,610 --> 00:29:11,991 - And where do I get that form? 486 00:29:12,026 --> 00:29:13,786 - At the check-in, but the gun 487 00:29:13,821 --> 00:29:15,098 has to be in your luggage. 488 00:29:15,132 --> 00:29:16,893 You can't take it onboard. 489 00:29:16,927 --> 00:29:17,894 - And that's it? 490 00:29:17,928 --> 00:29:18,791 - That's it. 491 00:29:18,826 --> 00:29:19,861 - Thank you very much. 492 00:29:19,896 --> 00:29:23,347 - Have a good flight. 493 00:29:45,473 --> 00:29:46,854 - Chapman: There's a smell 494 00:29:46,888 --> 00:29:48,407 in New York. 495 00:29:48,441 --> 00:29:50,512 It's a scary smell and a cold 496 00:29:50,547 --> 00:29:52,929 smell and I'm frightened... 497 00:29:52,963 --> 00:29:54,344 frightened of someone 498 00:29:54,378 --> 00:29:58,382 finding out my secret. 499 00:29:58,417 --> 00:29:59,694 - Cab driver: Gonna be in 500 00:29:59,728 --> 00:30:05,942 town long? 501 00:30:05,976 --> 00:30:09,152 You ever been to the city? 502 00:30:18,023 --> 00:30:20,335 Where you from, bud? 503 00:30:28,205 --> 00:30:29,068 They don't have traffic 504 00:30:29,103 --> 00:30:30,173 like this on main street 505 00:30:30,207 --> 00:30:31,174 where you live, huh? 506 00:30:31,208 --> 00:30:32,485 Have you stopped to see 507 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:36,179 central park yet? 508 00:30:36,213 --> 00:30:37,318 It's great this time 509 00:30:37,352 --> 00:30:41,011 of the year. 510 00:30:41,046 --> 00:30:43,634 A lot of snow... 511 00:30:43,669 --> 00:30:46,672 - Take me where the freaks are. 512 00:30:46,706 --> 00:30:49,468 - You are where the freaks are. 513 00:30:49,502 --> 00:30:50,952 New York is all freaks. 514 00:30:50,987 --> 00:30:54,922 You're in time square. 515 00:30:54,956 --> 00:30:57,890 This is about as big as a freak 516 00:30:57,925 --> 00:31:02,343 section as you're gonna get. 517 00:31:06,450 --> 00:31:09,074 - You ever seen John Lennon? 518 00:31:09,108 --> 00:31:12,249 - Yeah... he's around. 519 00:31:12,284 --> 00:31:14,355 Seen him in town. 520 00:31:14,389 --> 00:31:17,703 He lives up ahead here. 521 00:31:17,737 --> 00:31:19,394 Matter of fact, he lives up 522 00:31:19,429 --> 00:31:20,602 by 72nd. 523 00:31:20,637 --> 00:31:22,535 - Oh, yeah, the Dakota, right? 524 00:31:22,570 --> 00:31:24,744 - Right up there, that's right. 525 00:31:24,779 --> 00:31:26,298 You knew that, huh? 526 00:31:26,332 --> 00:31:27,437 It's right up near 72nd. 527 00:31:27,471 --> 00:31:29,991 We'll be passing it in a minute. 528 00:31:30,026 --> 00:31:31,303 - He's kind of a phoney, 529 00:31:31,337 --> 00:31:34,616 isn't he? 530 00:31:34,651 --> 00:31:38,689 - That all depends. 531 00:31:38,724 --> 00:31:40,450 - On what? 532 00:31:40,484 --> 00:31:47,733 - On his music or his personality. 533 00:31:47,767 --> 00:31:50,598 - Maybe a little of both? 534 00:31:50,632 --> 00:31:56,466 - I guess you could say that. 535 00:31:56,500 --> 00:32:02,023 You don't like music? 536 00:32:02,058 --> 00:32:04,232 - I did once. 537 00:32:04,267 --> 00:32:07,615 - What happened? 538 00:32:07,649 --> 00:32:10,998 - I found something else. 539 00:32:11,032 --> 00:32:14,415 - Yeah, that happens, you know? 540 00:32:42,650 --> 00:32:44,479 - How much did you say it was? 541 00:32:44,514 --> 00:32:45,584 - 15. 542 00:32:45,618 --> 00:32:46,412 - Here's 20. 543 00:32:46,447 --> 00:32:49,381 - Happy holiday. 544 00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:58,321 - Chapman: I checked into 545 00:32:58,355 --> 00:33:02,704 the Waldorf-Astoria... just like holden. 546 00:34:16,744 --> 00:34:18,677 I was like a boxer in the 27th 547 00:34:18,711 --> 00:34:22,301 round, all bloody and beaten. 548 00:35:17,149 --> 00:35:18,978 It's what holden had fantasized 549 00:35:19,013 --> 00:35:20,532 about in the book, killing 550 00:35:20,566 --> 00:35:23,224 the big, fat guy in the hotel... 551 00:35:23,259 --> 00:35:27,055 the pimp, the phoney. 552 00:35:41,691 --> 00:35:42,795 sirens wailing, 553 00:35:43,762 --> 00:35:45,004 - Man on tv: If you've been 554 00:35:45,039 --> 00:35:46,834 anywhere near a television set, 555 00:35:46,868 --> 00:35:48,042 you already know that John 556 00:35:48,076 --> 00:35:51,908 Lennon of the Beatles is dead. 557 00:35:51,942 --> 00:35:52,909 - Something's gonna be 558 00:35:52,943 --> 00:35:54,704 happening soon. 559 00:35:54,738 --> 00:35:57,983 You're gonna hear about me. 560 00:35:58,017 --> 00:36:01,193 - You, uh, you famous or something? 561 00:36:01,228 --> 00:36:03,091 - Oh, no, no. I'm not famous. 562 00:36:03,126 --> 00:36:04,541 I just want you to be aware 563 00:36:04,576 --> 00:36:05,715 that something's gonna be 564 00:36:05,749 --> 00:36:06,819 happening soon. 565 00:36:06,854 --> 00:36:10,858 Here, turn left here at 72nd. 566 00:36:10,892 --> 00:36:11,824 - John Lennon lives 567 00:36:11,859 --> 00:36:12,791 right there. 568 00:36:12,825 --> 00:36:14,068 - Oh, yeah? 569 00:36:14,102 --> 00:36:15,518 And you can just pull over right 570 00:36:15,552 --> 00:36:18,176 up here, right around there. 571 00:36:18,210 --> 00:36:18,831 - O.k. 572 00:36:18,866 --> 00:36:19,556 - Right around that 573 00:36:19,591 --> 00:36:20,695 truck will be fine. 574 00:36:20,730 --> 00:36:23,974 - Right. 575 00:36:42,061 --> 00:36:44,271 - O.k., let's see, uh... 576 00:36:49,310 --> 00:36:51,278 $7.80. 577 00:36:51,312 --> 00:36:53,797 - You got it, sir. 578 00:36:53,832 --> 00:36:55,282 How's that? 579 00:36:55,316 --> 00:36:57,249 - That's fine. Listen, you have a nice time 580 00:36:57,284 --> 00:36:58,457 in New York city. 581 00:36:58,492 --> 00:37:00,148 - You too. It was a pleasure meeting you. 582 00:37:00,183 --> 00:37:03,566 - Pleasure meeting you too. 583 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:09,330 All right... 584 00:37:09,365 --> 00:37:11,884 strange guy. 585 00:37:38,532 --> 00:37:39,912 - Th... this is the Dakota, 586 00:37:39,947 --> 00:37:41,914 right? - Yup. 587 00:37:41,949 --> 00:37:43,295 - Where John Lennon lives? 588 00:37:43,330 --> 00:37:44,607 - Yes, sir. 589 00:37:44,641 --> 00:37:45,884 - Wow. 590 00:37:45,918 --> 00:37:47,092 I can't believe I'm really 591 00:37:47,126 --> 00:37:48,300 standing here, you know, 592 00:37:48,335 --> 00:37:50,302 right outside where he lives. 593 00:37:50,337 --> 00:37:51,372 Sixth floor, right? 594 00:37:51,407 --> 00:37:53,340 Robert ryan's old apartment? 595 00:37:53,374 --> 00:37:54,824 Can you see it? 596 00:37:54,858 --> 00:37:55,894 - Not from here. 597 00:37:55,928 --> 00:37:57,792 Not from here, you can't. 598 00:37:57,827 --> 00:37:58,793 - You know, rosemary's baby 599 00:37:58,828 --> 00:38:00,278 was shot here, wasn't it? 600 00:38:00,312 --> 00:38:01,071 - I don't know. 601 00:38:01,106 --> 00:38:04,489 That's what they say. 602 00:38:04,523 --> 00:38:06,870 - So is, uh, is John in town? 603 00:38:06,905 --> 00:38:08,009 - I don't know, man. 604 00:38:08,044 --> 00:38:08,976 I don't think so. 605 00:38:09,010 --> 00:38:10,011 I haven't seen him. 606 00:38:10,046 --> 00:38:11,219 I think he's traveling 607 00:38:11,254 --> 00:38:14,671 or something. 608 00:38:14,706 --> 00:38:16,949 - I'm from Hawaii. 609 00:38:16,984 --> 00:38:18,503 - Really? 610 00:38:18,537 --> 00:38:19,676 That's a pretty strong accent 611 00:38:19,711 --> 00:38:23,715 you got there from Hawaii. 612 00:38:33,034 --> 00:38:34,933 - Chapman: I cased the whole building... 613 00:38:34,967 --> 00:38:36,383 walked all the way around it 614 00:38:36,417 --> 00:38:38,350 twice, just like 615 00:38:38,385 --> 00:38:42,389 an assassin would. 616 00:39:15,076 --> 00:39:16,319 - John Lennon on radio: When we 617 00:39:16,354 --> 00:39:17,700 first moved here, we actually 618 00:39:17,734 --> 00:39:18,632 lived in the village, 619 00:39:18,666 --> 00:39:19,667 in greenwich village, which is 620 00:39:19,702 --> 00:39:21,220 sort of the artsy-fartsy section 621 00:39:21,255 --> 00:39:22,429 of town for those that don't 622 00:39:22,463 --> 00:39:24,223 know, where all the students and 623 00:39:24,258 --> 00:39:25,984 the would-be's live, you know, 624 00:39:26,018 --> 00:39:27,848 and a few old poets and that. 625 00:39:28,607 --> 00:39:30,298 She told me, "yes, you can walk 626 00:39:30,333 --> 00:39:31,299 on the streets," you know. 627 00:39:31,334 --> 00:39:32,991 I mean, it took me two years 628 00:39:33,025 --> 00:39:35,545 to unwind. 629 00:39:35,580 --> 00:39:36,546 - Chapman: Shooting a man 630 00:39:36,581 --> 00:39:39,273 is no easy thing. 631 00:39:39,307 --> 00:39:40,101 It takes a lot 632 00:39:40,136 --> 00:39:43,484 of inner strength. 633 00:39:43,519 --> 00:39:44,865 - I can go right out 634 00:39:44,899 --> 00:39:46,314 this door now and go 635 00:39:46,349 --> 00:39:47,488 in a restaurant. 636 00:39:47,523 --> 00:39:49,352 Do you want to know how great 637 00:39:49,387 --> 00:39:50,595 that is? 638 00:39:50,629 --> 00:39:51,596 Or go to the movies? 639 00:39:51,630 --> 00:39:53,011 I mean, people come up and ask 640 00:39:53,045 --> 00:39:55,841 for autographs or say "hi" but 641 00:39:55,876 --> 00:39:58,188 they won't bug you, you know? 642 00:40:12,133 --> 00:40:13,411 - Man on tv: Don't you forget 643 00:40:13,445 --> 00:40:14,446 what the Beatles have said. 644 00:40:14,481 --> 00:40:15,896 Don't forget to take your Beatle 645 00:40:15,930 --> 00:40:17,035 records and your Beatle 646 00:40:17,069 --> 00:40:18,450 paraphernalia to any one of our 647 00:40:18,485 --> 00:40:20,279 14 pick-up points in Birmingham, 648 00:40:20,314 --> 00:40:22,178 Alabama, and turn them in, 649 00:40:22,212 --> 00:40:23,593 this week if possible. 650 00:40:27,528 --> 00:40:28,598 - Chapman: I had found 651 00:40:28,633 --> 00:40:30,186 my identity... 652 00:40:30,220 --> 00:40:34,777 but I had lost my life. 653 00:40:34,811 --> 00:40:35,778 ..."the phoney must die," 654 00:40:35,812 --> 00:40:40,438 says the catcher in the rye. 655 00:40:43,337 --> 00:40:44,165 "the phoney must die," 656 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,651 says the catcher in the rye. 657 00:40:55,522 --> 00:40:56,419 "the phoney must die," 658 00:40:56,454 --> 00:40:58,179 says the catcher in the rye. 659 00:41:26,345 --> 00:41:27,346 - One dollar here, 660 00:41:27,381 --> 00:41:29,107 one dollar... 661 00:41:32,282 --> 00:41:33,214 - Man in movie: ...the raging 662 00:41:33,249 --> 00:41:34,561 bull... let's hear it for the 663 00:41:34,595 --> 00:41:36,942 great Jake la Motta, ladies and 664 00:41:36,977 --> 00:41:38,081 gentlemen! 665 00:41:40,256 --> 00:41:41,533 - Announcer: He was a fighter... 666 00:41:41,568 --> 00:41:43,052 - Why does he have to make 667 00:41:43,086 --> 00:41:44,191 it so hard on himself? 668 00:41:45,675 --> 00:41:46,814 - Announcer: A winner... 669 00:41:46,849 --> 00:41:48,229 A loser... 670 00:41:48,264 --> 00:41:49,541 - I done a lot 671 00:41:49,576 --> 00:41:50,438 of bad things, Joey. 672 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,333 - Announcer: In this 673 00:42:23,368 --> 00:42:25,128 typical town... 674 00:42:25,163 --> 00:42:27,372 in this comfortable home... 675 00:42:27,406 --> 00:42:29,719 three ordinary people are 676 00:42:29,754 --> 00:42:31,410 about to live 677 00:42:31,445 --> 00:42:34,482 an extraordinary story... 678 00:42:41,524 --> 00:42:42,387 - Young man: You know, 679 00:42:42,421 --> 00:42:43,595 I used to figure you had 680 00:42:43,630 --> 00:42:45,321 a handle for everything... 681 00:42:45,355 --> 00:42:46,874 you knew it all... 682 00:42:46,909 --> 00:42:48,186 and I know that wasn't fair, 683 00:42:48,220 --> 00:42:49,739 but you always made us feel like 684 00:42:49,774 --> 00:42:50,913 everything was gonna be 685 00:42:50,947 --> 00:42:52,155 all right. 686 00:42:52,190 --> 00:42:54,606 I really admire you for it. 687 00:42:54,641 --> 00:42:55,918 - Oh, don't admire people 688 00:42:55,952 --> 00:42:57,160 too much. 689 00:42:57,195 --> 00:42:58,576 They'll disappoint 690 00:42:58,610 --> 00:43:02,752 you sometimes. 691 00:43:02,787 --> 00:43:08,516 - I love you. 692 00:43:11,312 --> 00:43:14,246 - I love you too. 693 00:43:43,897 --> 00:43:45,208 - Chapman: I had an experience 694 00:43:45,243 --> 00:43:47,107 in that theater. 695 00:43:47,141 --> 00:43:48,626 Somehow, in that brief time, 696 00:43:48,660 --> 00:43:50,317 my rage against John Lennon 697 00:43:50,351 --> 00:43:52,319 was defeated. 698 00:43:52,353 --> 00:43:56,323 A volcano was capped. 699 00:43:59,084 --> 00:44:01,915 I realized I had a wife at home 700 00:44:01,949 --> 00:44:06,195 who loved me. 701 00:44:06,229 --> 00:44:10,233 ...Gloria, hi, it's me. 702 00:44:10,268 --> 00:44:12,580 I'm comin' home. 703 00:44:12,615 --> 00:44:15,445 I've won a great victory. 704 00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,690 Your love has saved me. 705 00:44:18,725 --> 00:44:20,347 I was gonna kill him but your 706 00:44:20,381 --> 00:44:23,419 love saved me. 707 00:44:23,453 --> 00:44:27,112 You know what I'm talking about. 708 00:44:27,147 --> 00:44:30,978 Gloria, listen... just listen. 709 00:44:31,013 --> 00:44:34,154 I was gonna kill... 710 00:44:34,188 --> 00:44:36,466 John Lennon, but our paths 711 00:44:36,501 --> 00:44:38,606 didn't cross. 712 00:44:43,404 --> 00:44:45,613 ...you don't believe me. 713 00:44:45,648 --> 00:44:47,201 I even got to know the doorman 714 00:44:47,236 --> 00:44:50,584 where Lennon lives. 715 00:44:50,618 --> 00:44:51,965 I could have done it. 716 00:44:51,999 --> 00:44:54,899 Your love has saved me, Gloria. 717 00:44:54,933 --> 00:44:56,521 I just want to come back home 718 00:44:56,555 --> 00:44:57,487 to you, no one else, 719 00:44:57,522 --> 00:45:00,767 there's no one else. 720 00:45:00,801 --> 00:45:02,354 I made such a big mistake 721 00:45:02,389 --> 00:45:04,529 coming here. 722 00:45:04,563 --> 00:45:07,118 But I could have done it. 723 00:45:07,152 --> 00:45:08,671 I really could have done it. 724 00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,715 ...i lied to my wife. 725 00:45:17,749 --> 00:45:19,371 I told her I threw away the gun 726 00:45:19,406 --> 00:45:22,789 in the ocean, which I didn't. 727 00:45:22,823 --> 00:45:25,584 I told her it was over... 728 00:45:25,619 --> 00:45:29,174 it wasn't. 729 00:45:37,182 --> 00:45:40,668 16 days later, I was back. 730 00:45:40,703 --> 00:45:42,222 I told my wife I was going 731 00:45:42,256 --> 00:45:44,431 to find a new career. 732 00:46:02,863 --> 00:46:03,726 in the distance, 733 00:46:06,971 --> 00:46:07,868 - Heavenly treasures 734 00:46:07,903 --> 00:46:09,042 are what the spirit 735 00:46:09,076 --> 00:46:12,735 of god gives... 736 00:46:12,770 --> 00:46:14,461 and so the poor people also have 737 00:46:14,495 --> 00:46:19,846 the spirit of god in them... 738 00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:24,160 well, that's what I'm saying... 739 00:46:24,195 --> 00:46:25,265 that, that's what 740 00:46:25,299 --> 00:46:27,715 the antichrist said... 741 00:47:34,852 --> 00:47:36,957 - Hi, you gals waitin' 742 00:47:36,992 --> 00:47:37,751 for somebody? 743 00:47:37,785 --> 00:47:38,925 - Well, as matter of fact, 744 00:47:38,959 --> 00:47:40,374 we were waiting for you. 745 00:47:40,409 --> 00:47:41,720 - It wasn't worth it. 746 00:47:44,137 --> 00:47:45,483 - I'm sorry, 747 00:47:45,517 --> 00:47:47,278 we're only teasing. 748 00:47:47,312 --> 00:47:50,660 I'm Jude, this is Jeryl. 749 00:47:54,147 --> 00:47:55,700 - I know. 750 00:47:55,734 --> 00:47:57,012 I heard John Lennon lives here, 751 00:47:57,046 --> 00:47:58,461 I was, uh, hoping to get his 752 00:47:58,496 --> 00:47:59,497 autograph-- is he around? 753 00:47:59,531 --> 00:48:00,498 Have you seen him? 754 00:48:00,532 --> 00:48:02,120 - Um, no, but he's somewhere 755 00:48:02,155 --> 00:48:03,811 in the city. 756 00:48:03,846 --> 00:48:07,022 - Good. 757 00:48:07,056 --> 00:48:08,713 I'm from Hawaii. 758 00:48:08,747 --> 00:48:09,783 - You came all the way 759 00:48:09,817 --> 00:48:11,647 from Hawaii to see John? 760 00:48:11,681 --> 00:48:12,855 - I'm a big fan. 761 00:48:12,890 --> 00:48:14,684 - You must be. 762 00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:15,720 - Well, I'm also here 763 00:48:15,754 --> 00:48:17,342 on business, and just thought 764 00:48:17,377 --> 00:48:20,483 I'd take a look. 765 00:48:20,518 --> 00:48:21,484 - Well, Jeryl and I 766 00:48:21,519 --> 00:48:23,003 are considered family. 767 00:48:23,038 --> 00:48:24,556 - Yeah, so much so that John 768 00:48:24,591 --> 00:48:26,179 and Yoko call us by name. 769 00:48:26,213 --> 00:48:27,490 - Yeah, sometimes they stop us 770 00:48:27,525 --> 00:48:29,492 on the street to have a chat. 771 00:48:29,527 --> 00:48:30,183 - Wow... 772 00:48:30,217 --> 00:48:32,150 I just want an autograph. 773 00:48:32,185 --> 00:48:33,703 Oh, I should have brought a book 774 00:48:33,738 --> 00:48:35,705 or something! 775 00:48:35,740 --> 00:48:36,879 - Oh, why don't you get 776 00:48:36,914 --> 00:48:38,087 double fantasy? 777 00:48:38,122 --> 00:48:39,261 Even if you don't get an 778 00:48:39,295 --> 00:48:41,504 autograph, it's a great album. 779 00:48:41,539 --> 00:48:42,505 - Hey, yeah, 780 00:48:42,540 --> 00:48:43,817 maybe I'll do that. 781 00:48:43,851 --> 00:48:45,025 They'd never believe it 782 00:48:45,060 --> 00:48:46,544 back home. 783 00:48:46,578 --> 00:48:48,028 - O.k., well, we're going 784 00:48:48,063 --> 00:48:50,341 to go get something to eat now. 785 00:48:50,375 --> 00:48:52,205 So, it was nice meeting you. 786 00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:53,102 - Well, I'll be here 787 00:48:53,137 --> 00:48:54,517 until at least midnight. 788 00:48:54,552 --> 00:48:55,622 - Well, see you later then. 789 00:48:55,656 --> 00:48:57,037 - Well, maybe we can all have 790 00:48:57,072 --> 00:48:58,694 dinner tonight? 791 00:48:58,728 --> 00:49:00,075 My treat! 792 00:49:00,972 --> 00:49:03,078 Do you like Japanese? 793 00:49:10,706 --> 00:49:12,397 - Man, whistling: Taxi! 794 00:49:17,816 --> 00:49:18,817 - "he was so 795 00:49:18,852 --> 00:49:20,750 nice... I just can't believe 796 00:49:20,785 --> 00:49:22,235 he was the one..." 797 00:50:48,390 --> 00:50:49,632 ...the more I found out, 798 00:50:49,667 --> 00:50:52,428 the more angry I became. 799 00:50:52,463 --> 00:50:53,636 The guy owned five luxury 800 00:50:53,671 --> 00:50:56,156 apartments in the Dakota... 801 00:50:56,191 --> 00:50:57,847 four farms in Virginia, 802 00:50:57,882 --> 00:51:00,471 Vermont and upstate New York. 803 00:51:00,505 --> 00:51:02,990 250 head of prize holstein 804 00:51:03,025 --> 00:51:04,095 cattle worth more 805 00:51:04,130 --> 00:51:07,133 than $100,000 each. 806 00:51:07,167 --> 00:51:10,239 A vast weekend home in Florida. 807 00:51:10,274 --> 00:51:15,106 A 63-foot ocean-going yacht. This from a man who told us 808 00:51:15,141 --> 00:51:19,386 to "imagine no possessions." 809 00:52:34,496 --> 00:52:35,911 ...when I heard the homos next 810 00:52:35,945 --> 00:52:37,464 door, I flew into a rage 811 00:52:37,499 --> 00:52:40,191 inside myself. 812 00:52:40,226 --> 00:52:45,196 They disgusted me. 813 00:52:45,231 --> 00:52:46,542 Travis was right. 814 00:52:46,577 --> 00:52:49,545 "one day a real rain will come and wash all the scum off 815 00:52:49,580 --> 00:52:51,927 the street." 816 00:53:31,932 --> 00:53:32,968 - Frank! Frank! 817 00:53:35,246 --> 00:53:36,420 - Chapman: George c. Scott... 818 00:53:38,284 --> 00:53:40,941 - Johnny Carson... 819 00:53:40,976 --> 00:53:44,945 Jackie Onassis... 820 00:53:47,016 --> 00:53:48,846 On the streets, among all 821 00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:51,262 the freaks and queers and bums 822 00:53:51,297 --> 00:53:53,540 and whores... 823 00:53:53,575 --> 00:53:56,888 I knew holden was right. 824 00:53:56,923 --> 00:53:59,581 It was all very clear. 825 00:54:03,550 --> 00:54:06,035 Here is a little man who has 826 00:54:06,070 --> 00:54:07,692 nothing, going against 827 00:54:07,727 --> 00:54:09,349 a giant phoney. 828 00:54:19,290 --> 00:54:20,809 I wanted to go and shoot 'em 829 00:54:20,843 --> 00:54:26,746 all... and I almost did. 830 00:54:26,780 --> 00:54:28,023 But what glory is there 831 00:54:28,057 --> 00:54:30,750 in killing unknowns? 832 00:54:33,270 --> 00:54:35,272 In the book, holden checked out 833 00:54:35,306 --> 00:54:36,687 of his miserable room 834 00:54:36,721 --> 00:54:38,136 in a cheap hotel. 835 00:54:39,517 --> 00:54:42,382 My $16-a-night Y.M.C.A. Full 836 00:54:42,417 --> 00:54:46,352 of queers now became room 2374 837 00:54:46,386 --> 00:54:49,320 at the Sheraton. 838 00:54:49,355 --> 00:54:51,874 Hell to heaven in a cab ride. 839 00:54:58,709 --> 00:55:00,504 - Woman on tv: Hey Trina, it's Bree... 840 00:55:00,538 --> 00:55:01,574 - I could have killed those 841 00:55:01,608 --> 00:55:02,644 queers, I really could have. 842 00:55:02,678 --> 00:55:03,783 - Woman on tv: Yeah, listen, 843 00:55:03,817 --> 00:55:05,129 I could use a quick 50. 844 00:55:05,163 --> 00:55:07,683 Got a commuter for me? 845 00:55:07,718 --> 00:55:10,341 ...good evening. 846 00:55:10,376 --> 00:55:13,344 If you'd like that... 847 00:55:13,379 --> 00:55:15,001 have you ever been with a woman 848 00:55:15,035 --> 00:55:17,452 before, paying her? 849 00:55:17,486 --> 00:55:18,832 Do you like it? 850 00:55:18,867 --> 00:55:20,178 I mean, I have the feeling 851 00:55:20,213 --> 00:55:21,318 that that turns you on 852 00:55:21,352 --> 00:55:23,354 very particularly. 853 00:55:23,389 --> 00:55:24,942 What turns me on is because 854 00:55:24,976 --> 00:55:27,462 I have a good imagination 855 00:55:27,496 --> 00:55:31,707 and I like it... pleasing. 856 00:55:31,742 --> 00:55:33,122 Do you mind if I take 857 00:55:33,157 --> 00:55:34,538 my sweater off? 858 00:55:34,572 --> 00:55:35,677 Well, I think in the confines 859 00:55:35,711 --> 00:55:37,472 of one's house, one should be 860 00:55:37,506 --> 00:55:39,819 free of clothing 861 00:55:39,853 --> 00:55:41,752 and inhibitions. 862 00:55:41,786 --> 00:55:43,063 Oh, inhibitions are always nice 863 00:55:43,098 --> 00:55:44,168 because they're so nice 864 00:55:44,202 --> 00:55:46,688 to overcome. 865 00:55:50,485 --> 00:55:52,487 - Hi, I'd like an escort 866 00:55:52,521 --> 00:55:56,145 for the evening. 867 00:55:56,180 --> 00:55:58,700 Yes... someone foreign. 868 00:55:58,734 --> 00:56:01,461 Do you have any foreign women? 869 00:56:01,496 --> 00:56:02,669 Someone exotic. 870 00:56:02,704 --> 00:56:03,670 I'd like someone 871 00:56:03,705 --> 00:56:10,297 from another country. 872 00:56:10,332 --> 00:56:11,540 Good... 873 00:56:11,575 --> 00:56:13,818 but she's gotta be quiet. 874 00:56:13,853 --> 00:56:15,475 If she doesn't talk, 875 00:56:15,510 --> 00:56:19,203 I will tip her very well. 876 00:56:19,237 --> 00:56:20,860 O.k.? 877 00:56:20,894 --> 00:56:23,276 I'm at the Sheraton hotel, 878 00:56:23,310 --> 00:56:27,418 room 2730. 879 00:56:27,453 --> 00:56:29,178 Caulfield. 880 00:56:29,213 --> 00:56:33,459 Holden Caulfield. 881 00:56:46,368 --> 00:56:47,438 ...i kept walking around 882 00:56:47,473 --> 00:56:48,646 the room, waiting for this 883 00:56:48,681 --> 00:56:51,580 prostitute to show up. 884 00:56:51,615 --> 00:56:52,305 I kept hoping 885 00:56:52,339 --> 00:56:53,340 she'd be good-looking. 886 00:56:53,375 --> 00:56:55,170 I didn't care too much though. 887 00:56:55,204 --> 00:56:57,206 I sort of just wanted to get it 888 00:56:57,241 --> 00:56:58,760 over with. 889 00:57:02,039 --> 00:57:03,247 I was startin' to feel 890 00:57:03,281 --> 00:57:04,455 pretty sexy and all. 891 00:57:04,490 --> 00:57:09,322 I was a little nervous anyway. 892 00:57:09,356 --> 00:57:11,497 Finally, somebody knocked 893 00:57:11,531 --> 00:57:13,671 on the door. 894 00:57:27,685 --> 00:57:29,963 - Hi, I'm pia. 895 00:57:29,998 --> 00:57:33,450 - Thank you for coming. 896 00:57:41,458 --> 00:57:45,323 You can relax, I'm not kinky. 897 00:57:45,358 --> 00:57:46,877 I'm clean. 898 00:57:46,911 --> 00:57:48,361 I'm not weird. 899 00:57:48,395 --> 00:57:50,156 In fact, I'm not even all that 900 00:57:50,190 --> 00:57:54,471 interested in sex. 901 00:57:54,505 --> 00:57:56,403 I just want to be in the company 902 00:57:56,438 --> 00:57:59,717 of a woman tonight. 903 00:58:02,306 --> 00:58:05,585 I'm expecting that tomorrow will 904 00:58:05,620 --> 00:58:10,038 be a very difficult day for me. 905 00:58:10,072 --> 00:58:12,419 Would you like a drink? 906 00:58:12,454 --> 00:58:15,077 - I don't drink. 907 00:58:15,112 --> 00:58:16,009 - Well, tonight's 908 00:58:16,044 --> 00:58:16,976 your night off. 909 00:58:17,010 --> 00:58:21,256 We can do whatever you want. 910 00:58:26,848 --> 00:58:30,645 Take your dress off. 911 00:58:55,704 --> 00:58:57,982 - Um... turn on the radio. 912 00:58:58,017 --> 00:58:59,501 I think somebody saw me come in 913 00:58:59,536 --> 00:59:01,641 the room... I don't... 914 00:59:01,676 --> 00:59:03,160 I don't want jail. 915 00:59:03,194 --> 00:59:04,575 - Of course. 916 00:59:19,141 --> 00:59:21,558 Would you like a massage? 917 00:59:21,592 --> 00:59:22,800 - Sure, why not? 918 00:59:28,841 --> 00:59:29,980 - A real man doesn't have 919 00:59:30,014 --> 00:59:33,742 to take from a woman. 920 00:59:33,777 --> 00:59:34,950 A real man doesn't have 921 00:59:34,985 --> 00:59:38,747 to use a woman. 922 00:59:38,782 --> 00:59:43,718 He can give. 923 00:59:43,752 --> 00:59:44,719 He can give. 924 01:01:02,037 --> 01:01:03,763 ...i woke up knowing somehow 925 01:01:03,798 --> 01:01:06,628 that this was the day... 926 01:01:06,663 --> 01:01:08,734 that when I left that room, 927 01:01:08,768 --> 01:01:10,321 that would be the last time 928 01:01:10,356 --> 01:01:13,152 I would see the room again. 929 01:02:18,665 --> 01:02:20,702 I had never seen John Lennon 930 01:02:20,737 --> 01:02:22,497 up to that point. 931 01:02:22,531 --> 01:02:23,809 I only knew that he was 932 01:02:23,843 --> 01:02:26,881 in the Dakota... 933 01:02:26,915 --> 01:02:28,779 but... I somehow knew that 934 01:02:28,814 --> 01:02:30,954 this was it. 935 01:02:30,988 --> 01:02:32,610 This was the day. 936 01:03:13,375 --> 01:03:17,241 I'm holden Caulfield. 937 01:03:17,276 --> 01:03:21,452 I am... holden Caulfield. 938 01:03:21,487 --> 01:03:24,007 Iam holden Caulfield. 939 01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:38,780 Hello, I'm holden Caulfield. 940 01:03:38,815 --> 01:03:41,058 I'mholden Caulfield. 941 01:04:01,527 --> 01:04:03,978 So I laid out on the dresser 942 01:04:04,012 --> 01:04:05,496 a tableau of everything that was 943 01:04:05,531 --> 01:04:07,947 important in my life. 944 01:04:07,982 --> 01:04:09,362 So it would say, 945 01:04:09,397 --> 01:04:11,433 "look, this is me. 946 01:04:11,468 --> 01:04:14,781 This is my past, and I'm going, 947 01:04:14,816 --> 01:04:18,371 gone to another place." 948 01:04:28,381 --> 01:04:29,589 I practiced what it was gonna 949 01:04:29,624 --> 01:04:31,212 look like when the police came 950 01:04:31,246 --> 01:04:33,283 into the room. 951 01:04:33,317 --> 01:04:35,423 It was like going through a door 952 01:04:35,457 --> 01:04:36,665 and I knew I was going 953 01:04:36,700 --> 01:04:38,667 to go through a door. 954 01:04:38,702 --> 01:04:40,566 The poet's door. 955 01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:42,464 William blake's door. 956 01:04:42,499 --> 01:04:45,433 Jim morrison's door. 957 01:04:45,467 --> 01:04:46,813 It was like I was going 958 01:04:46,848 --> 01:04:49,264 through a giant door... 959 01:04:49,299 --> 01:04:51,197 and I was. 960 01:04:51,232 --> 01:04:55,926 I was leaving my past. 961 01:04:55,961 --> 01:04:57,894 My very soul was breathing 962 01:04:57,928 --> 01:04:58,791 between the pages of 963 01:04:58,825 --> 01:05:03,140 the catcher in the rye. 964 01:05:36,898 --> 01:05:37,761 - Chapman: Give me 965 01:05:37,795 --> 01:05:39,418 the strength. 966 01:05:39,452 --> 01:05:41,178 Please... give me 967 01:05:41,213 --> 01:05:43,836 the strength to do it. 968 01:05:43,870 --> 01:05:45,803 It has to be done. 969 01:05:45,838 --> 01:05:48,461 Please give me the strength. 970 01:05:48,496 --> 01:05:51,637 The phonies have to know. 971 01:06:14,142 --> 01:06:15,454 - Hey man, how's it goin'? 972 01:06:15,488 --> 01:06:16,731 - Hey, how's it going? 973 01:06:16,765 --> 01:06:17,697 - All right, right. 974 01:06:17,732 --> 01:06:18,767 You stayin' warm out here? 975 01:06:18,802 --> 01:06:20,217 - I'm trying. - Yeah. 976 01:06:20,252 --> 01:06:21,632 Hey, have you seen anybody today? 977 01:06:21,667 --> 01:06:22,875 - No, I haven't. - No? 978 01:06:22,909 --> 01:06:23,634 - Been quiet? 979 01:06:23,669 --> 01:06:25,774 - Yeah, nobody's come out. 980 01:06:25,809 --> 01:06:27,259 - Chapman: Jose... hey man. 981 01:06:27,293 --> 01:06:28,985 - What's goin' on? 982 01:06:29,019 --> 01:06:30,400 - How are ya? - Good. 983 01:06:30,434 --> 01:06:31,125 - Photographer: Hi. 984 01:06:31,159 --> 01:06:32,781 - Hey, I'm mark. - I'm Paul. 985 01:06:32,816 --> 01:06:34,611 - How are ya? - All right, how are you? 986 01:06:34,645 --> 01:06:35,301 - Good. 987 01:06:35,336 --> 01:06:36,682 So you guys seen Lennon yet? 988 01:06:36,716 --> 01:06:39,064 - No, I haven't. - No, we were just talking about that. 989 01:06:39,098 --> 01:06:41,342 - He hasn't been out. 990 01:06:41,376 --> 01:06:42,688 - You're a photographer? 991 01:06:42,722 --> 01:06:43,516 - Oh, yeah. 992 01:06:43,551 --> 01:06:44,586 - You get pictures of him? 993 01:06:44,621 --> 01:06:45,794 - Oh, yeah, all the time. 994 01:06:45,829 --> 01:06:47,141 - Wow, that's great. 995 01:06:47,175 --> 01:06:49,833 - Yeah, it's pretty cool. 996 01:06:49,867 --> 01:06:52,491 So, uh... you new in town? 997 01:06:52,525 --> 01:06:55,321 - Uh... yeah, I'm on vacation. 998 01:06:55,356 --> 01:06:59,049 I'm from Hawaii, Honolulu. 999 01:06:59,084 --> 01:07:00,326 - Really? - Yup. 1000 01:07:00,361 --> 01:07:01,741 - I didn't realize people from 1001 01:07:01,776 --> 01:07:04,744 Honolulu had a southern drawl. 1002 01:07:04,779 --> 01:07:06,367 Where are you staying in New York? 1003 01:07:06,401 --> 01:07:07,471 - Why'd you ask me that? 1004 01:07:07,506 --> 01:07:09,370 What the hell do you wanna know that for? 1005 01:07:09,404 --> 01:07:10,785 No, don't walk away-- why do you 1006 01:07:10,819 --> 01:07:12,787 want to know where I'm staying in New York? 1007 01:07:12,821 --> 01:07:13,719 - Easy, man-- take it easy. 1008 01:07:13,753 --> 01:07:15,686 I'm only making conversation. 1009 01:07:15,721 --> 01:07:21,382 You're the one who started it... 1010 01:07:21,416 --> 01:07:25,834 right? 1011 01:07:25,869 --> 01:07:28,044 - Sorry. 1012 01:07:30,701 --> 01:07:33,635 - Well, that was weird. 1013 01:07:33,670 --> 01:07:34,878 - Yeah... 1014 01:07:34,912 --> 01:07:37,329 that's New York. 1015 01:07:39,365 --> 01:07:41,816 - Well... looks like it's down 1016 01:07:41,850 --> 01:07:44,646 to us die-hard Beatleholics now. 1017 01:07:46,614 --> 01:07:48,719 Look, I'm sorry if I came on 1018 01:07:48,754 --> 01:07:49,962 a little strong. 1019 01:07:49,996 --> 01:07:51,205 I've been standing out here 1020 01:07:51,239 --> 01:07:54,932 for nearly three days now. 1021 01:07:54,967 --> 01:07:55,864 - You strike up a conversation 1022 01:07:55,899 --> 01:07:57,383 with a guy like he's your long 1023 01:07:57,418 --> 01:07:58,867 lost cousin and then you get 1024 01:07:58,902 --> 01:08:01,525 all hostile. 1025 01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:03,872 - I... I'm bored and I'm far 1026 01:08:03,907 --> 01:08:05,495 away from home, so I try 1027 01:08:05,529 --> 01:08:06,634 to talk to people for 1028 01:08:06,668 --> 01:08:08,567 a little companionship. 1029 01:08:08,601 --> 01:08:10,879 I'm tired... so I guess that's 1030 01:08:10,914 --> 01:08:13,503 why I flew off the handle. 1031 01:08:13,537 --> 01:08:16,713 I'm sorry, o.k.? 1032 01:08:16,747 --> 01:08:18,094 - O.k. 1033 01:08:21,097 --> 01:08:23,271 Hey, relax. No one's gonna steal your album 1034 01:08:23,306 --> 01:08:23,961 around here. 1035 01:08:36,664 --> 01:08:38,700 - Chapman: ...you get a lot of shots of John? 1036 01:08:38,735 --> 01:08:40,185 - Oh, yeah, all the time. 1037 01:08:40,219 --> 01:08:41,979 Hey, here he comes. 1038 01:08:55,303 --> 01:08:59,273 - Chapman: Thanks, John. 1039 01:08:59,307 --> 01:09:00,308 - Is that good? 1040 01:09:00,343 --> 01:09:01,344 Anything else? 1041 01:09:01,378 --> 01:09:02,241 - Thanks. - You're welcome. 1042 01:09:02,276 --> 01:09:03,035 - Chapman: Thanks, John. 1043 01:09:03,069 --> 01:09:05,900 - Cheers. 1044 01:09:50,634 --> 01:09:52,326 - Oh, you lucked out big time. 1045 01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:53,706 That's pretty special. 1046 01:09:53,741 --> 01:09:56,295 Big stars don't usually put the date. 1047 01:09:56,330 --> 01:09:57,676 - Chapman: Wow. - That's a collector's item. 1048 01:09:57,710 --> 01:09:59,091 - You know, wait until they see 1049 01:09:59,125 --> 01:10:01,058 this back in Hawaii. 1050 01:10:01,093 --> 01:10:02,508 Did you get any of me? 1051 01:10:02,543 --> 01:10:03,992 - I think so. - I'll give you anything 1052 01:10:04,027 --> 01:10:07,099 for that picture, anything. 1053 01:10:07,133 --> 01:10:08,411 Did I have my hat on 1054 01:10:08,445 --> 01:10:09,584 or was it off? 1055 01:10:09,619 --> 01:10:11,103 I-I don't want to be standing 1056 01:10:11,137 --> 01:10:11,862 next to John Lennon 1057 01:10:11,897 --> 01:10:13,001 with this stupid hat on. 1058 01:10:13,036 --> 01:10:14,210 Was it on or off? 1059 01:10:14,244 --> 01:10:15,452 - I think it was on. 1060 01:10:15,487 --> 01:10:19,836 - Shit! Uh... listen, is there any way 1061 01:10:19,870 --> 01:10:21,217 you could get me that picture tonight? 1062 01:10:21,251 --> 01:10:23,460 I'll give you $50 for it. 1063 01:10:23,495 --> 01:10:25,048 - I live in new jersey. 1064 01:10:25,082 --> 01:10:26,981 - O.k., meet me here tomorrow 1065 01:10:27,015 --> 01:10:30,226 and I'll give you $50-- deal? 1066 01:10:30,260 --> 01:10:33,056 - O.k. 1067 01:10:33,090 --> 01:10:35,127 - Jesus. 1068 01:10:35,161 --> 01:10:36,749 Wait until they see that picture 1069 01:10:36,784 --> 01:10:38,889 back in Hawaii. 1070 01:10:38,924 --> 01:10:40,960 Hell, me... standing next 1071 01:10:40,995 --> 01:10:42,721 to John Lennon. 1072 01:10:42,755 --> 01:10:45,137 Hoo! 1073 01:10:59,841 --> 01:11:02,292 - That's it, I'm gone. 1074 01:11:02,327 --> 01:11:04,467 Good luck. 1075 01:11:04,501 --> 01:11:06,123 - You know, I-I-I'm staying 1076 01:11:06,158 --> 01:11:07,055 at the Sheraton. 1077 01:11:07,090 --> 01:11:08,540 Like I said, you can't be too 1078 01:11:08,574 --> 01:11:10,162 careful, especially in a city 1079 01:11:10,196 --> 01:11:11,232 like this. 1080 01:11:11,267 --> 01:11:12,198 I mean, you never know 1081 01:11:12,233 --> 01:11:13,579 who you're talking to. 1082 01:11:13,614 --> 01:11:14,787 You know, I'm not from Hawaii 1083 01:11:14,822 --> 01:11:16,237 originally, I'm from Georgia. 1084 01:11:16,272 --> 01:11:17,273 I grew up just outside 1085 01:11:17,307 --> 01:11:18,584 of Atlanta in Decatur. 1086 01:11:18,619 --> 01:11:19,999 You know-- Decatur, Georgia? 1087 01:11:20,034 --> 01:11:21,069 I've traveled all around 1088 01:11:21,104 --> 01:11:23,624 the world, but Hawaii is the place I belong. 1089 01:11:23,658 --> 01:11:24,659 I probably wouldn't be alive 1090 01:11:24,694 --> 01:11:26,523 today if I hadn't moved there three years ago. 1091 01:11:26,558 --> 01:11:28,594 You wouldn't believe what I went there for. 1092 01:11:28,629 --> 01:11:29,561 I've lived 1093 01:11:29,595 --> 01:11:30,458 a very ironical life. 1094 01:11:30,493 --> 01:11:31,839 - I'll be back tomorrow night 1095 01:11:31,873 --> 01:11:32,529 with the picture. 1096 01:11:32,564 --> 01:11:33,496 - You really ought to wait. 1097 01:11:33,530 --> 01:11:34,945 I mean, they could be back any 1098 01:11:34,980 --> 01:11:35,981 minute, they'll be back 1099 01:11:36,015 --> 01:11:36,947 before midnight. 1100 01:11:36,982 --> 01:11:38,570 - Look, you got your autograph from John. 1101 01:11:38,604 --> 01:11:39,847 Give it up for the day 1102 01:11:39,881 --> 01:11:40,882 and get some rest. 1103 01:11:40,917 --> 01:11:46,474 - No... I'm gonna get Yoko's. 1104 01:11:46,509 --> 01:11:50,340 Hey, uh, uh... why don't I take your picture with him 1105 01:11:50,375 --> 01:11:52,929 when he comes back? I know about cameras, I've used 'em before. 1106 01:11:52,963 --> 01:11:54,344 - I see John all the time. 1107 01:11:54,379 --> 01:11:56,829 I can get my picture taken with him anytime. 1108 01:11:56,864 --> 01:11:57,899 I'm going home. 1109 01:11:57,934 --> 01:12:00,626 - Well, suppose you don't see him again? 1110 01:13:54,464 --> 01:13:56,466 - Chapman: Mr. Lennon? 1111 01:14:32,088 --> 01:14:35,471 - Yoko, sobbing: John... 1112 01:14:54,766 --> 01:14:55,836 - Doorman: Go, go-- 1113 01:14:55,870 --> 01:14:56,975 get out of here! 1114 01:14:57,009 --> 01:14:58,045 - But where would I go? 1115 01:14:58,079 --> 01:15:00,357 - I don't know. 1116 01:15:10,540 --> 01:15:11,610 - Chapman: ...it was like 1117 01:15:11,645 --> 01:15:12,784 a movie. 1118 01:15:12,818 --> 01:15:15,925 It was like I was in a movie. 1119 01:15:15,959 --> 01:15:17,064 I got a gun. 1120 01:15:17,098 --> 01:15:19,515 I got hollow point bullets. 1121 01:15:19,549 --> 01:15:21,378 I thought he would just drop 1122 01:15:21,413 --> 01:15:22,448 right in front of me 1123 01:15:22,483 --> 01:15:24,520 and that was it. 1124 01:15:24,554 --> 01:15:26,142 I thought he was just gonna fall 1125 01:15:26,176 --> 01:15:28,558 down like in the movies... 1126 01:15:28,593 --> 01:15:30,905 fall down dead. 1127 01:15:46,334 --> 01:15:47,543 - Officer shouting: Police! 1128 01:15:47,577 --> 01:15:49,648 Freeze!Hands on your head! 1129 01:15:49,683 --> 01:15:52,133 Do it!Do it now! 1130 01:15:53,169 --> 01:15:55,205 - Police!Don't move! 1131 01:15:59,106 --> 01:16:00,521 - He shot John Lennon! 1132 01:16:48,776 --> 01:16:49,674 - Come on, John. 1133 01:16:49,708 --> 01:16:51,572 - Hold it there. 1134 01:16:51,607 --> 01:16:54,679 - Yeah, yeah, yes... o.k. 1135 01:16:54,713 --> 01:17:00,029 Come on... John, hang in. 1136 01:17:00,063 --> 01:17:02,687 Come on, come on. 1137 01:17:08,693 --> 01:17:09,521 - Chapman: Please, 1138 01:17:09,555 --> 01:17:12,697 don't hurt me. 1139 01:17:21,050 --> 01:17:22,741 ...i murdered a man, 1140 01:17:22,776 --> 01:17:24,467 but not only did I fall, 1141 01:17:24,501 --> 01:17:25,986 I took a lot more with me 1142 01:17:26,020 --> 01:17:28,091 than just myself. 1143 01:17:28,126 --> 01:17:29,852 A whole era ended. 1144 01:17:29,886 --> 01:17:30,818 It was the last nail 1145 01:17:30,853 --> 01:17:34,235 in the coffin of the '60s. 1146 01:17:38,481 --> 01:17:39,516 - Man on tv: ...shortly 1147 01:17:39,551 --> 01:17:40,448 before 11 p.m. 1148 01:17:41,864 --> 01:17:43,348 He was dead on arrival. 1149 01:17:47,973 --> 01:17:49,354 - If you've been anywhere near 1150 01:17:49,388 --> 01:17:51,356 a television set or a radio 1151 01:17:51,390 --> 01:17:52,702 these past few hours, 1152 01:17:52,737 --> 01:17:53,703 you already know that 1153 01:17:53,738 --> 01:17:55,429 John Lennon of the Beatles 1154 01:17:55,463 --> 01:17:56,257 is dead. 1155 01:17:56,292 --> 01:17:57,224 - He's not dead. 1156 01:17:57,258 --> 01:18:00,434 John Lennon can't be dead. 1157 01:18:16,243 --> 01:18:17,175 - Woman on tv: The suspect 1158 01:18:17,209 --> 01:18:18,832 at this time is-- first of all, 1159 01:18:18,866 --> 01:18:20,350 his identity, 25-year-old 1160 01:18:20,385 --> 01:18:23,699 mark David chapman... he comes 1161 01:18:23,733 --> 01:18:24,458 from Hawaii. 1162 01:18:24,492 --> 01:18:25,562 Police tell me he's been 1163 01:18:25,597 --> 01:18:26,702 in the New York area about 1164 01:18:26,736 --> 01:18:29,877 a week, and began to hang around 1165 01:18:29,912 --> 01:18:31,534 the Dakota apartment over 1166 01:18:31,568 --> 01:18:33,191 the weekend, asking about 1167 01:18:33,225 --> 01:18:34,054 John Lennon. 1168 01:18:34,088 --> 01:18:35,365 He apparently ran into him 1169 01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:37,264 for the first time this evening 1170 01:18:37,298 --> 01:18:39,818 about 5:00, asking Lennon 1171 01:18:39,853 --> 01:18:41,268 for his autograph. 1172 01:18:41,302 --> 01:18:42,441 Lennon gave it to him on 1173 01:18:42,476 --> 01:18:45,962 the jacket cover of a record. 1174 01:18:45,997 --> 01:18:47,412 Lennon went off to a recording 1175 01:18:47,446 --> 01:18:48,931 session and we are told that 1176 01:18:48,965 --> 01:18:51,657 chapman remained at the hotel 1177 01:18:51,692 --> 01:18:53,936 until mr. Lennon returned 1178 01:18:53,970 --> 01:18:56,214 about 11:00 this evening. 1179 01:18:56,248 --> 01:18:57,974 Police officials, um, describe 1180 01:18:58,009 --> 01:18:59,735 what happened this way: They say 1181 01:18:59,769 --> 01:19:00,770 that chapman came up 1182 01:19:00,805 --> 01:19:02,461 from behind, yelled out 1183 01:19:02,496 --> 01:19:04,498 mr. Lennon's name and emptied 1184 01:19:04,532 --> 01:19:06,258 a .38 revolver... 1185 01:19:07,121 --> 01:19:08,019 ...there were at least 1186 01:19:08,053 --> 01:19:09,020 five shots spent... 1187 01:19:11,056 --> 01:19:12,092 ...there is very little known 1188 01:19:12,126 --> 01:19:14,335 about 25-year-old chapman. 1189 01:19:14,370 --> 01:19:16,648 He has been taken to the 20th 1190 01:19:16,682 --> 01:19:19,478 police precinct, fingerprinted. 1191 01:19:19,513 --> 01:19:20,790 They're checking for prior 1192 01:19:20,825 --> 01:19:23,103 arrest records, also for 1193 01:19:23,137 --> 01:19:24,552 any motive. 1194 01:19:24,587 --> 01:19:26,175 They don't have any yet... 1195 01:19:26,209 --> 01:19:27,245 - Officer: Hurry up in there. 1196 01:19:27,279 --> 01:19:28,177 - They've charged him 1197 01:19:28,211 --> 01:19:29,040 officially with murder, 1198 01:19:29,074 --> 01:19:30,662 but the reason for this attack-- 1199 01:19:30,696 --> 01:19:31,628 unknown. 1200 01:19:31,663 --> 01:19:33,630 - Officer: Have a seat. 1201 01:19:36,461 --> 01:19:39,326 O.k., calm down, all right? 1202 01:19:40,810 --> 01:19:41,984 I'm going to take off your 1203 01:19:42,018 --> 01:19:43,364 cuffs, make you a little bit 1204 01:19:43,399 --> 01:19:44,055 more comfortable. 1205 01:19:54,168 --> 01:19:55,618 State your name. 1206 01:19:55,652 --> 01:19:57,309 - Mark David chapman. 1207 01:19:57,344 --> 01:19:58,655 - Your age? 1208 01:19:58,690 --> 01:19:59,795 - 25. 1209 01:19:59,829 --> 01:20:01,106 - Your address. 1210 01:20:01,141 --> 01:20:02,867 - 55 Kukui street, 1211 01:20:02,901 --> 01:20:04,351 Honolulu, Hawaii. 1212 01:20:04,385 --> 01:20:06,318 - O.k., do me a favor and stand up. 1213 01:20:06,353 --> 01:20:09,149 I just want to check your pockets. 1214 01:20:17,191 --> 01:20:19,642 Have a seat, all right? 1215 01:20:32,966 --> 01:20:33,932 - Chapman: I remember a lot 1216 01:20:33,967 --> 01:20:35,554 of pain and a lot of confusion 1217 01:20:35,589 --> 01:20:38,109 when I dictated the statement. 1218 01:20:38,143 --> 01:20:39,938 I was in a very unreal, 1219 01:20:39,973 --> 01:20:41,629 very surreal world. 1220 01:20:41,664 --> 01:20:43,666 I was in an utter panic of sheer 1221 01:20:43,700 --> 01:20:45,288 terror and wanted things to go 1222 01:20:45,323 --> 01:20:46,911 back to the way they were before 1223 01:20:46,945 --> 01:20:49,879 I had pulled the trigger. 1224 01:20:49,914 --> 01:20:52,226 I felt anger spreading over 1225 01:20:52,261 --> 01:20:53,676 my mind as I was dictating 1226 01:20:53,710 --> 01:20:54,884 the statement and talking about 1227 01:20:54,919 --> 01:20:57,404 catcher in the rye,like I was 1228 01:20:57,438 --> 01:20:59,647 being sucked into a giant wave 1229 01:20:59,682 --> 01:21:01,339 that I couldn't swim out of 1230 01:21:01,373 --> 01:21:02,788 or even come up for air. 1231 01:21:07,138 --> 01:21:10,727 ...i didn't wanna kill anybody. 1232 01:21:10,762 --> 01:21:12,315 And I really don't know why 1233 01:21:12,350 --> 01:21:14,559 I did it. 1234 01:21:14,593 --> 01:21:17,942 I asked god to help me... 1235 01:21:17,976 --> 01:21:19,909 but we're all responsible 1236 01:21:19,944 --> 01:21:21,807 for our own actions. 1237 01:21:25,190 --> 01:21:26,260 I came to New York 1238 01:21:26,295 --> 01:21:30,540 five weeks ago. 1239 01:21:30,575 --> 01:21:32,301 I stayed at the Y.M.C.A. 1240 01:21:32,335 --> 01:21:33,681 On 62nd street... 1241 01:21:48,317 --> 01:21:50,146 - Female reporter: Mourners began gathering here soon after 1242 01:21:50,181 --> 01:21:54,185 the news of Lennon's death and there are easily now a thousand 1243 01:21:54,219 --> 01:21:57,326 mourners who've come to pay tribute to him. 1244 01:21:57,360 --> 01:22:00,260 At the beginning, it was a very solemn vigil. 1245 01:22:00,294 --> 01:22:01,502 Many held candles... 1246 01:22:01,537 --> 01:22:02,503 - ...up to 1247 01:22:02,538 --> 01:22:05,230 a thousand admirers at one time. 1248 01:22:05,265 --> 01:22:06,714 Lennon's wife, Yoko Ono, at one 1249 01:22:06,749 --> 01:22:10,615 time sent a message down asking the mourners to disperse, 1250 01:22:10,649 --> 01:22:13,721 and most of them did, but they are starting to return again, 1251 01:22:13,756 --> 01:22:18,071 playing the familiar songs that are so connected with John 1252 01:22:18,105 --> 01:22:21,246 Lennon and some also for the Beatles as a group. 1253 01:22:21,281 --> 01:22:24,698 The feeling is of tremendous loss and these people feel it 1254 01:22:24,732 --> 01:22:25,975 very personally. 1255 01:22:26,010 --> 01:22:27,563 The profound loss to the music 1256 01:22:27,597 --> 01:22:30,324 world is... is yet to be accounted for. 1257 01:22:30,359 --> 01:22:31,360 - Detective: You guys all set? 1258 01:22:31,394 --> 01:22:32,637 - Officer: Come on, look alive, 1259 01:22:32,671 --> 01:22:33,569 let's get going. 1260 01:22:33,603 --> 01:22:35,467 Move it. 1261 01:22:35,502 --> 01:22:39,057 - Give me a vest. 1262 01:22:39,092 --> 01:22:41,473 Hold him up right here. 1263 01:22:41,508 --> 01:22:42,923 Get the vest on him. 1264 01:22:42,958 --> 01:22:44,994 - Take your glasses off. 1265 01:22:45,029 --> 01:22:47,686 Hold your hands up. 1266 01:22:47,721 --> 01:22:49,033 - I'm not gonna have jack ruby 1267 01:22:49,067 --> 01:22:50,482 kill you in my station house, 1268 01:22:50,517 --> 01:22:52,795 you understand? 1269 01:22:52,829 --> 01:22:54,452 Come on, secure that. 1270 01:22:54,486 --> 01:22:55,660 All right, listen up, guys. 1271 01:22:55,694 --> 01:22:56,972 We got the man who shot 1272 01:22:57,006 --> 01:22:57,973 John Lennon here. 1273 01:22:58,007 --> 01:22:59,905 I don't want any Oswalds, 1274 01:22:59,940 --> 01:23:00,665 you got it? 1275 01:23:00,699 --> 01:23:01,562 - Give me a coat, 1276 01:23:01,597 --> 01:23:02,667 I want a coat. 1277 01:23:02,701 --> 01:23:06,705 - Get him a coat. No fuck-ups, you understand me? 1278 01:23:06,740 --> 01:23:08,121 You ready? 1279 01:23:08,155 --> 01:23:10,019 Move. 1280 01:23:10,054 --> 01:23:12,435 The door. 1281 01:23:12,470 --> 01:23:14,437 Move it up, all right, let's go. 1282 01:23:15,438 --> 01:23:16,715 - Detective: Jesus christ! 1283 01:23:16,750 --> 01:23:18,821 Get them back-- let's go! 1284 01:23:18,855 --> 01:23:22,790 Move the fuck back! 1285 01:23:26,242 --> 01:23:27,140 - Chapman: I remember from 1286 01:23:27,174 --> 01:23:29,107 the darkness inside the coat 1287 01:23:29,142 --> 01:23:30,626 a tremendous tumult occurring 1288 01:23:30,660 --> 01:23:32,490 as we walked from one door 1289 01:23:32,524 --> 01:23:34,871 to another door. 1290 01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:45,365 - Chapman: I looked down... 1291 01:23:45,399 --> 01:23:47,263 and the ground was lit up 1292 01:23:47,298 --> 01:23:49,196 by white light. 1293 01:23:49,231 --> 01:23:51,612 It was almost like I was walking 1294 01:23:51,647 --> 01:23:53,614 on just one giant, pulsating 1295 01:23:53,649 --> 01:23:57,411 beam of light under my feet. 1296 01:24:08,664 --> 01:24:11,805 - Move back! 1297 01:24:19,951 --> 01:24:21,608 - Jesus christ! 1298 01:24:23,161 --> 01:24:26,130 - Officer: Shh. 1299 01:24:26,164 --> 01:24:28,925 - Culley, get on the door. 1300 01:24:28,960 --> 01:24:29,581 Relax. 1301 01:24:41,283 --> 01:24:43,147 So... 1302 01:24:43,181 --> 01:24:44,941 why'd you do it? 1303 01:24:52,052 --> 01:24:54,986 - I like John Lennon. 1304 01:25:02,166 --> 01:25:04,685 - Detective: So do I. 1305 01:25:04,720 --> 01:25:05,790 - Boss, it's clear. 1306 01:25:05,824 --> 01:25:08,689 Let's go. 1307 01:25:08,724 --> 01:25:10,450 - Culley, let's go. 1308 01:25:19,390 --> 01:25:21,254 - Chapman: I was mr. Nobody 1309 01:25:21,288 --> 01:25:23,083 till I killed the biggest 1310 01:25:23,118 --> 01:25:24,774 somebody on earth. 1311 01:25:40,963 --> 01:25:41,860 - Male reporter: Outside the 1312 01:25:41,895 --> 01:25:44,069 courtroom were many Lennon fans. 1313 01:25:44,104 --> 01:25:45,519 Security measures were strict 1314 01:25:45,554 --> 01:25:47,142 when they filed in as there've 1315 01:25:47,176 --> 01:25:48,246 been many threats against 1316 01:25:48,281 --> 01:25:52,388 chapman's life since the murder. 1317 01:25:52,423 --> 01:25:54,356 - Chapman: I was nothing... 1318 01:25:54,390 --> 01:25:56,530 then I was a big shot. 1319 01:25:56,565 --> 01:25:57,807 This was the hottest thing 1320 01:25:57,842 --> 01:25:59,533 in the city at the time. 1321 01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:05,367 - Detective: Who are you? 1322 01:26:05,401 --> 01:26:06,264 Get out of here! 1323 01:26:06,299 --> 01:26:08,128 Get out of here! 1324 01:26:08,163 --> 01:26:10,475 Get the fuck out of here now! 1325 01:26:10,510 --> 01:26:11,442 Get him in the car! 1326 01:26:11,476 --> 01:26:12,995 Get him in the fuckin' car! 1327 01:26:13,029 --> 01:26:15,308 Let's go! 1328 01:26:20,934 --> 01:26:22,142 Let's go! 1329 01:26:41,161 --> 01:26:42,024 - Female reporter: 25-year-old 1330 01:26:42,058 --> 01:26:43,991 mark David chapman of Hawaii was 1331 01:26:44,026 --> 01:26:45,648 described as having a smirk 1332 01:26:45,683 --> 01:26:46,822 on his face. 1333 01:26:46,856 --> 01:26:48,548 Police, calling him a "wacko," 1334 01:26:48,582 --> 01:26:49,894 charged him with murder. 1335 01:26:49,928 --> 01:26:51,654 John's wife, Yoko Ono, issued 1336 01:26:51,689 --> 01:26:53,242 a statement to the weeping crowd 1337 01:26:53,277 --> 01:26:55,037 of 500 who gathered quickly 1338 01:26:55,071 --> 01:26:56,556 outside the co-op. 1339 01:26:56,590 --> 01:26:58,247 She said, "John loved and prayed 1340 01:26:58,282 --> 01:26:59,490 for the human race. 1341 01:26:59,524 --> 01:27:01,906 Please do the same for him." 1342 01:27:01,940 --> 01:27:03,597 John Lennon and Paul McCartney 1343 01:27:03,632 --> 01:27:05,185 wrote more hit songs than any 1344 01:27:05,220 --> 01:27:06,807 composers in modern history, 1345 01:27:06,842 --> 01:27:08,257 and they're generally considered 1346 01:27:08,292 --> 01:27:09,638 to have been the spirit behind 1347 01:27:09,672 --> 01:27:11,018 many of the social changes 1348 01:27:11,053 --> 01:27:13,504 of the '60s and '70s. 1349 01:27:13,538 --> 01:27:15,644 - Hey, get back down there. 1350 01:27:15,678 --> 01:27:17,370 All I care about is getting you 1351 01:27:17,404 --> 01:27:18,992 out of here before someone kills 1352 01:27:19,026 --> 01:27:20,994 you, you understand? 1353 01:27:28,967 --> 01:27:29,658 - Male reporter: At the 1354 01:27:29,692 --> 01:27:30,521 arraignment mark David chapman 1355 01:27:30,555 --> 01:27:31,625 was charged with second-degree 1356 01:27:31,660 --> 01:27:33,040 murder, the most serious charge 1357 01:27:33,075 --> 01:27:34,870 in New York state for killing 1358 01:27:34,904 --> 01:27:36,596 a non-law officer. 1359 01:27:36,630 --> 01:27:37,631 He was then taken here 1360 01:27:37,666 --> 01:27:38,805 to bellevue hospital 1361 01:27:38,839 --> 01:27:39,702 for psychiatric exams. 1362 01:27:40,462 --> 01:27:41,739 ...everywhere he goes, chapman 1363 01:27:41,773 --> 01:27:42,843 is forced to wear two 1364 01:27:42,878 --> 01:27:44,224 bulletproof jackets. 1365 01:27:44,259 --> 01:27:45,190 The threat of a lynching 1366 01:27:45,225 --> 01:27:46,916 is almost too much for police. 1367 01:27:46,951 --> 01:27:48,435 - They fear that fans might 1368 01:27:48,470 --> 01:27:50,955 decide to storm the hospital. 1369 01:28:07,972 --> 01:28:08,662 - Chapman: I remember 1370 01:28:08,697 --> 01:28:09,525 cockroaches and 1371 01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:11,113 I remember filth... 1372 01:28:11,147 --> 01:28:12,977 and I remember a smell... 1373 01:28:13,011 --> 01:28:15,876 I remember loud disco music, 1374 01:28:15,911 --> 01:28:17,809 and I remember just a terrible 1375 01:28:17,844 --> 01:28:19,328 feeling of something like 1376 01:28:19,363 --> 01:28:22,262 a Fellini film. 1377 01:28:34,792 --> 01:28:35,793 - Female reporter: ...and music 1378 01:28:35,827 --> 01:28:36,932 critic Robert palmer who 1379 01:28:36,966 --> 01:28:38,002 recently interviewed 1380 01:28:38,036 --> 01:28:38,865 John Lennon. 1381 01:28:38,899 --> 01:28:40,107 John Coleman, of course, will 1382 01:28:40,142 --> 01:28:41,592 bring us weather news this 1383 01:28:41,626 --> 01:28:44,215 morning, but now at 30 minutes, 1384 01:28:44,249 --> 01:28:46,493 almost 31, after 7:00, 1385 01:28:46,528 --> 01:28:48,115 Steve bell has the news. 1386 01:28:48,150 --> 01:28:49,427 - Bell: Thank you, Stephanie. 1387 01:28:49,462 --> 01:28:50,532 Good morning, everyone. 1388 01:28:50,566 --> 01:28:52,499 New York city police have now 1389 01:28:52,534 --> 01:28:54,363 arrested and charged a suspect 1390 01:28:54,398 --> 01:28:55,606 in last night's murder 1391 01:28:55,640 --> 01:28:56,503 of John Lennon. 1392 01:28:56,538 --> 01:28:58,436 He's 25-year-old David chapman 1393 01:28:58,471 --> 01:29:00,369 of Hawaii who police say had 1394 01:29:00,404 --> 01:29:01,508 been in New York for about 1395 01:29:01,543 --> 01:29:03,130 a week, apparently stalking 1396 01:29:03,165 --> 01:29:03,890 Lennon. 1397 01:29:03,924 --> 01:29:05,443 The police describe chapman 1398 01:29:05,478 --> 01:29:06,444 as "a wacko." 1399 01:29:06,479 --> 01:29:08,204 They say he shot Lennon five 1400 01:29:08,239 --> 01:29:09,965 times as the musician returned 1401 01:29:09,999 --> 01:29:11,518 to his apartment last night, 1402 01:29:11,553 --> 01:29:13,175 then dropped his gun and waited 1403 01:29:13,209 --> 01:29:13,900 for police. 1404 01:29:13,934 --> 01:29:15,142 Authorities say they do not know 1405 01:29:15,177 --> 01:29:17,144 of any motive for that killing. 1406 01:29:17,179 --> 01:29:18,491 Informed of Lennon's death this 1407 01:29:18,525 --> 01:29:20,044 morning, his former songwriter 1408 01:29:20,078 --> 01:29:21,839 partner in the Beatles, Paul 1409 01:29:21,873 --> 01:29:23,530 McCartney said, "I can't take 1410 01:29:23,565 --> 01:29:25,463 it, John was a great guy. 1411 01:29:25,498 --> 01:29:26,637 He's going to be missed 1412 01:29:26,671 --> 01:29:27,465 by the whole world." 1413 01:29:27,500 --> 01:29:28,604 As June Massell reports, many of 1414 01:29:28,639 --> 01:29:30,675 John Lennon's fans and admirers 1415 01:29:30,710 --> 01:29:31,952 heard about his death on late 1416 01:29:31,987 --> 01:29:35,266 night radio music programs. 1417 01:29:35,300 --> 01:29:36,474 - John Lennon will be 1418 01:29:36,509 --> 01:29:37,648 remembered as a gifted 1419 01:29:37,682 --> 01:29:39,201 and talented musician. 1420 01:29:39,235 --> 01:29:40,409 The Beatles were the top pop 1421 01:29:40,444 --> 01:29:42,135 music group in the world from 1422 01:29:42,169 --> 01:29:43,688 the time their first album 1423 01:29:43,723 --> 01:29:45,621 was released in 1964 1424 01:29:45,656 --> 01:29:48,486 until they broke up in 1970. 1425 01:29:48,521 --> 01:29:49,867 With Lennon at the time of the 1426 01:29:49,901 --> 01:29:52,179 shooting was his wife, Yoko Ono, 1427 01:29:52,214 --> 01:29:53,974 who Lennon once said helped him 1428 01:29:54,009 --> 01:29:55,320 find his identity. 1429 01:29:55,355 --> 01:29:56,908 When doctors told her Lennon was 1430 01:29:56,943 --> 01:29:58,841 dead, she cried, "tell me 1431 01:29:58,876 --> 01:30:00,256 it isn't true." 1432 01:30:00,291 --> 01:30:03,777 June Massell, abc news, Chicago. 1433 01:30:10,163 --> 01:30:11,440 - Chapman: I didn't care what 1434 01:30:11,475 --> 01:30:13,408 the doctors thought about me. 1435 01:30:13,442 --> 01:30:15,858 I was above and beyond them. 1436 01:30:15,893 --> 01:30:18,551 I was with a pure, holy purpose 1437 01:30:18,585 --> 01:30:20,207 and there was nothing they could 1438 01:30:20,242 --> 01:30:23,348 do that would touch it. 1439 01:30:23,383 --> 01:30:27,456 I thought they were all phonies. 1440 01:30:27,491 --> 01:30:31,495 I became a savior, a prophet. 1441 01:30:31,529 --> 01:30:33,600 The catcher in the rye 1442 01:30:33,635 --> 01:30:35,153 of my generation. 1443 01:31:08,014 --> 01:31:12,328 - Hello, mr. Chapman. 1444 01:31:12,363 --> 01:31:14,123 How are you? 1445 01:31:19,474 --> 01:31:20,302 Have you had 1446 01:31:20,336 --> 01:31:23,754 a comfortable night? 1447 01:31:23,788 --> 01:31:27,274 - I slept fine. 1448 01:31:27,309 --> 01:31:29,380 - Good. 1449 01:31:29,414 --> 01:31:31,416 Do you know where you are? 1450 01:31:31,451 --> 01:31:33,695 - Bellevue hospital. 1451 01:31:33,729 --> 01:31:35,213 - Mm-hmm, right. 1452 01:31:35,248 --> 01:31:36,525 - Correct. 1453 01:31:36,560 --> 01:31:38,769 - Why are you here? 1454 01:31:38,803 --> 01:31:39,873 - For the murder 1455 01:31:39,908 --> 01:31:41,841 of John Lennon. 1456 01:31:43,152 --> 01:31:46,777 - Did you kill John Lennon? 1457 01:31:46,811 --> 01:31:48,917 - You ought to know that. 1458 01:31:48,951 --> 01:31:53,508 - Yes, I do. 1459 01:31:53,542 --> 01:31:56,476 - Next question. 1460 01:31:56,511 --> 01:32:01,723 - Why did you kill John Lennon? 1461 01:32:01,757 --> 01:32:04,346 - Uh, that's tough to answer. 1462 01:32:04,380 --> 01:32:06,797 Probably, uh... a number 1463 01:32:06,831 --> 01:32:10,007 of different reasons. 1464 01:32:10,041 --> 01:32:11,871 - Let's start, I have a lot of time. 1465 01:32:11,905 --> 01:32:13,700 - I'm sure you do. 1466 01:32:13,735 --> 01:32:14,632 A lot of questions, 1467 01:32:14,667 --> 01:32:16,634 a lot of answers. 1468 01:32:16,669 --> 01:32:19,119 - You provide the answers. 1469 01:32:19,154 --> 01:32:21,536 I ask the questions. 1470 01:32:24,642 --> 01:32:29,233 So, give me one reason. 1471 01:32:29,267 --> 01:32:30,303 - Because I thought 1472 01:32:30,337 --> 01:32:31,684 he was a phoney. 1473 01:32:31,718 --> 01:32:34,376 - A phoney. - Mm-hmm. 1474 01:32:34,410 --> 01:32:35,584 - Didn't like his music, 1475 01:32:35,619 --> 01:32:36,758 is that it? 1476 01:32:36,792 --> 01:32:37,828 - No, actually, 1477 01:32:37,862 --> 01:32:40,451 I loved his music. 1478 01:32:40,485 --> 01:32:43,178 - You didn't like his lyrics? 1479 01:32:43,212 --> 01:32:45,007 - Well, I... I thought 1480 01:32:45,042 --> 01:32:46,250 I understood his lyrics, 1481 01:32:46,284 --> 01:32:50,081 but I guess I didn't. 1482 01:32:50,116 --> 01:32:51,117 - What's phoney 1483 01:32:51,151 --> 01:32:57,641 about John Lennon? 1484 01:32:57,675 --> 01:32:58,676 Have you ever thought 1485 01:32:58,711 --> 01:33:03,957 about death before?Killing? 1486 01:33:06,270 --> 01:33:09,031 - Killing... yeah, I have 1487 01:33:09,066 --> 01:33:09,791 thought about death, 1488 01:33:09,825 --> 01:33:12,483 I have thought about killing. 1489 01:33:12,517 --> 01:33:15,106 I just killed a man. 1490 01:33:15,141 --> 01:33:18,627 Is that killing enough for you? 1491 01:33:18,662 --> 01:33:19,766 - Do you ever think about 1492 01:33:19,801 --> 01:33:23,045 suicide or taking yourself out 1493 01:33:23,080 --> 01:33:25,289 of pain in some other way? 1494 01:33:25,323 --> 01:33:26,428 - Yeah, I've thought 1495 01:33:26,462 --> 01:33:28,361 about suicide. 1496 01:33:28,395 --> 01:33:30,156 I tried to wipe myself out 1497 01:33:30,190 --> 01:33:32,641 before I wiped John Lennon out. 1498 01:33:32,676 --> 01:33:35,195 - You did? - Yeah. 1499 01:33:35,230 --> 01:33:37,646 - And what happened? 1500 01:33:37,681 --> 01:33:39,821 - I couldn't do it. 1501 01:33:39,855 --> 01:33:41,339 I was too chicken. 1502 01:33:41,374 --> 01:33:42,099 - You were, huh? 1503 01:33:42,133 --> 01:33:43,583 - Yeah, went up on top of the 1504 01:33:43,618 --> 01:33:49,589 empire state building... and... 1505 01:33:49,624 --> 01:33:52,143 wanted to blow my brains out. 1506 01:33:52,178 --> 01:33:53,213 - Why is that? 1507 01:33:54,352 --> 01:33:57,010 I believe nobody's ever done 1508 01:33:57,045 --> 01:33:59,495 it before. 1509 01:33:59,530 --> 01:34:03,914 It would be all over the newspapers. 1510 01:34:03,948 --> 01:34:06,882 - What stopped you? 1511 01:34:06,917 --> 01:34:09,713 - Picturing myself... 1512 01:34:09,747 --> 01:34:11,887 hittin' the bottom. 1513 01:34:11,922 --> 01:34:13,924 The fear... the fear 1514 01:34:13,958 --> 01:34:18,307 of physical pain. 1515 01:34:18,342 --> 01:34:22,035 Pictured my brains on the ground. 1516 01:34:22,070 --> 01:34:23,347 I thought I still might 1517 01:34:23,381 --> 01:34:25,625 be alive. 1518 01:34:29,733 --> 01:34:34,703 - Do you have that same picture in your head about John Lennon? 1519 01:34:34,738 --> 01:34:40,744 Do you think he felt the pain you felt? 1520 01:34:40,778 --> 01:34:47,992 - Well, I'm sure he felt, uh... pain... I don't know... I guess 1521 01:34:48,027 --> 01:34:51,409 I didn't really know him. 1522 01:34:55,724 --> 01:35:01,281 - Did he do something to you, personally? 1523 01:35:03,214 --> 01:35:04,802 I don't want to talk anymore. 1524 01:35:04,837 --> 01:35:07,702 I don't want to talk about the killing. 1525 01:35:07,736 --> 01:35:11,257 I'm trying to block it out of my mind. 1526 01:35:11,291 --> 01:35:12,534 - Why is that? 1527 01:35:12,568 --> 01:35:16,020 - Why do you think? 1528 01:35:16,055 --> 01:35:18,057 - I don't know. 1529 01:35:18,091 --> 01:35:19,472 - Have you ever killed anyone? 1530 01:35:19,506 --> 01:35:21,232 - No, I haven't. 1531 01:35:21,267 --> 01:35:24,132 - You ever seen someone dead? 1532 01:35:24,166 --> 01:35:25,029 - Yes. 1533 01:35:25,064 --> 01:35:28,067 - Bullet wounds, blood? 1534 01:35:28,101 --> 01:35:33,072 - Did you get excited about that? 1535 01:35:33,106 --> 01:35:36,592 - I'm done talking. 1536 01:35:47,293 --> 01:35:53,678 - It's conviction, you want, is it? 1537 01:35:53,713 --> 01:35:54,990 Or is it fame? 1538 01:35:55,025 --> 01:35:56,371 - We're done. 1539 01:35:56,405 --> 01:35:58,131 I'm done... talking. 1540 01:35:58,166 --> 01:35:59,443 - You certainly are. 1541 01:35:59,477 --> 01:36:00,409 - Yeah, yeah. 1542 01:36:00,444 --> 01:36:02,342 - Thank you, mr. Chapman. 1543 01:36:02,377 --> 01:36:07,762 It was great talking to you. 1544 01:36:44,799 --> 01:36:47,802 - Automated female voice: Step through. 1545 01:37:09,582 --> 01:37:10,376 ...for this killer. 1546 01:37:10,410 --> 01:37:11,480 - Clear. 1547 01:37:15,968 --> 01:37:18,211 Step through. 1548 01:37:41,062 --> 01:37:44,410 - Inmate: Hey, killer! 1549 01:37:50,347 --> 01:37:53,281 See you soon, killer! 1550 01:38:01,668 --> 01:38:02,462 - Male reporter: Lennon's 1551 01:38:02,497 --> 01:38:03,774 killer had several days of 1552 01:38:03,808 --> 01:38:05,638 psychiatric examination under 1553 01:38:05,672 --> 01:38:08,158 a 24-hour suicide watch before 1554 01:38:08,192 --> 01:38:10,263 being moved to Rikers island 1555 01:38:10,298 --> 01:38:11,644 jail to a more secure cell 1556 01:38:11,678 --> 01:38:13,439 for his own protection from 1557 01:38:13,473 --> 01:38:14,405 other prisoners... 1558 01:38:14,440 --> 01:38:15,337 - Guard: Do you want 1559 01:38:15,372 --> 01:38:16,062 to give me that? 1560 01:38:16,097 --> 01:38:17,719 - N-no, it's o.k. 1561 01:38:17,753 --> 01:38:18,685 - ...following a threat 1562 01:38:18,720 --> 01:38:20,653 scrawled on a prison wall. 1563 01:38:20,687 --> 01:38:23,311 "you don't have much time left. 1564 01:38:23,345 --> 01:38:27,142 Soon, killer. Soon." 1565 01:38:30,766 --> 01:38:31,802 - Chapman: Within days, 1566 01:38:31,836 --> 01:38:32,976 the lawyer assigned 1567 01:38:33,010 --> 01:38:36,358 to represent me withdrew. 1568 01:38:36,393 --> 01:38:37,704 This from a guy with a rep 1569 01:38:37,739 --> 01:38:40,673 for defending no-hope clients. 1570 01:38:58,622 --> 01:39:00,796 I began reading catcheragain 1571 01:39:00,831 --> 01:39:02,281 and it was like I was reading 1572 01:39:02,315 --> 01:39:04,628 a whole other book from 1573 01:39:04,662 --> 01:39:06,250 the one I had read before, 1574 01:39:06,285 --> 01:39:07,631 like I was reading a blueprint 1575 01:39:07,665 --> 01:39:11,014 of what had happened to me. 1576 01:39:11,048 --> 01:39:11,980 I made a list of 1577 01:39:12,015 --> 01:39:15,225 50 total coincidences. 1578 01:39:15,259 --> 01:39:16,951 It was like the whole killing 1579 01:39:16,985 --> 01:39:18,780 was set up by destiny, just 1580 01:39:18,814 --> 01:39:21,541 something that was meant to be. 1581 01:39:21,576 --> 01:39:23,233 That's when I realized that 1582 01:39:23,267 --> 01:39:24,648 John Lennon had been killed 1583 01:39:24,682 --> 01:39:25,890 to promote the reading of 1584 01:39:25,925 --> 01:39:28,514 the catcher in the rye. 1585 01:39:28,548 --> 01:39:30,861 And that same electric current passed through 1586 01:39:30,895 --> 01:39:33,381 my body again and lit up all 1587 01:39:33,415 --> 01:39:36,971 the cells of my brain. 1588 01:39:47,153 --> 01:39:51,295 I became euphoric, knowing now there was a reason beyond 1589 01:39:51,330 --> 01:39:54,540 myself for what I had done. 1590 01:39:55,817 --> 01:39:57,819 - Male reporter: Shots have reportedly been fired as 1591 01:39:57,853 --> 01:39:58,820 president Reagan left 1592 01:39:58,854 --> 01:40:01,719 the Washington Hilton hotel this afternoon. 1593 01:40:01,754 --> 01:40:04,136 White house officials say the president was not hit, 1594 01:40:04,170 --> 01:40:08,623 but there are reports that three people were wounded by gunfire. 1595 01:40:13,317 --> 01:40:14,629 Correspondent Joe Ewog was there 1596 01:40:14,663 --> 01:40:16,044 when the shooting happened. 1597 01:40:16,079 --> 01:40:17,114 - A quick series 1598 01:40:17,149 --> 01:40:20,014 of explosions, uh, sounding like firecrackers. 1599 01:40:20,048 --> 01:40:21,567 ...into the back seat by one of 1600 01:40:21,601 --> 01:40:22,982 the secret service agents. 1601 01:40:23,017 --> 01:40:24,535 Uh, right after that, there was a... 1602 01:40:24,570 --> 01:40:25,985 - He got that from me. 1603 01:40:26,020 --> 01:40:27,228 - ...policemen swarming around, 1604 01:40:27,262 --> 01:40:28,401 uh, the man with the gun, 1605 01:40:28,436 --> 01:40:30,231 uh, surged back towards where 1606 01:40:30,265 --> 01:40:31,508 I was standing near one of 1607 01:40:31,542 --> 01:40:32,750 the doors to the hotel. 1608 01:40:32,785 --> 01:40:33,613 They quickly subdued and 1609 01:40:33,648 --> 01:40:34,856 wrestled him to the ground and 1610 01:40:34,890 --> 01:40:36,340 then put him in a police car. 1611 01:40:36,375 --> 01:40:37,341 - Male reporter: John hinckley, 1612 01:40:37,376 --> 01:40:38,308 jr. Had become obsessed 1613 01:40:38,342 --> 01:40:40,068 by movie actress Jodie foster 1614 01:40:40,103 --> 01:40:41,897 and had imagined that she would 1615 01:40:41,932 --> 01:40:43,968 be impressed if he murdered 1616 01:40:44,003 --> 01:40:46,419 the president. 1617 01:40:46,454 --> 01:40:48,352 - Chapman: Good idea. 1618 01:40:48,387 --> 01:40:49,388 I had a backup list 1619 01:40:49,422 --> 01:40:51,424 but Reagan wasn't on it. 1620 01:40:51,459 --> 01:40:53,150 I was going for, uh, Jackie 1621 01:40:53,185 --> 01:40:57,327 Onassis, George c. Scott, Johnny 1622 01:40:57,361 --> 01:41:01,434 Carson if I couldn't get Lennon. 1623 01:41:08,269 --> 01:41:11,134 - Very anxious... 1624 01:41:11,168 --> 01:41:12,445 hyperventilating 1625 01:41:12,480 --> 01:41:15,241 and exhausted... 1626 01:41:15,276 --> 01:41:16,725 cooperative. 1627 01:41:16,760 --> 01:41:20,626 Insatiable need for attention. 1628 01:41:20,660 --> 01:41:21,420 - Have you seen, uh, 1629 01:41:21,454 --> 01:41:24,388 any other doctors at all? 1630 01:41:24,423 --> 01:41:25,424 - Grandiose visions 1631 01:41:25,458 --> 01:41:28,220 of himself... 1632 01:41:28,254 --> 01:41:30,981 mood fluctuations. 1633 01:41:31,015 --> 01:41:32,051 - Bingo. 1634 01:41:32,086 --> 01:41:35,399 - Paranoid tendencies... 1635 01:41:35,434 --> 01:41:37,125 rage. 1636 01:41:37,160 --> 01:41:38,230 - What was the logic 1637 01:41:38,264 --> 01:41:40,611 behind all this? 1638 01:41:40,646 --> 01:41:44,132 But you said you loved the man. 1639 01:41:44,167 --> 01:41:46,169 - Tell me about your mother. 1640 01:41:46,203 --> 01:41:49,896 Are you able to see that... 1641 01:41:49,931 --> 01:41:51,243 you're a separate person 1642 01:41:51,277 --> 01:41:55,212 from the person in the book? 1643 01:41:59,285 --> 01:42:00,114 - Chapman: My mission was 1644 01:42:00,148 --> 01:42:02,150 now to promote the catcher in 1645 01:42:02,185 --> 01:42:03,841 the rye. 1646 01:42:03,876 --> 01:42:05,326 I was gonna use my trial, the 1647 01:42:05,360 --> 01:42:07,983 trial of a century, to promote 1648 01:42:08,018 --> 01:42:13,092 the reading of that book. 1649 01:42:13,127 --> 01:42:14,645 - Two weeks before the trial, 1650 01:42:14,680 --> 01:42:15,888 chapman has instructed 1651 01:42:15,922 --> 01:42:17,476 his lawyers that he wishes 1652 01:42:17,510 --> 01:42:19,063 to plead guilty. 1653 01:42:19,098 --> 01:42:20,375 In a statement today, chapman 1654 01:42:20,410 --> 01:42:22,826 says that god had spoken to him 1655 01:42:22,860 --> 01:42:25,484 and wanted him to plead guilty. 1656 01:42:25,518 --> 01:42:27,106 Defense lawyer Jonathan marks 1657 01:42:27,141 --> 01:42:29,315 has asked judge Dennis Edwards 1658 01:42:29,350 --> 01:42:31,248 to have a panel re-examine him 1659 01:42:31,283 --> 01:42:32,870 to determine if he was competent 1660 01:42:32,905 --> 01:42:35,287 enough to make such a decision. 1661 01:42:35,321 --> 01:42:40,464 The judge refused. 1662 01:42:40,499 --> 01:42:42,535 - Chapman: I was never mad. 1663 01:42:42,570 --> 01:42:44,399 I was blessed. 1664 01:42:44,434 --> 01:42:45,918 But there was one more task 1665 01:42:45,952 --> 01:42:48,886 I had to endure. 1666 01:42:48,921 --> 01:42:54,064 I had to be purified... exorcised. 1667 01:42:54,098 --> 01:42:56,031 - I know you, satan. 1668 01:42:56,066 --> 01:42:57,136 - I'm a christian. 1669 01:42:57,171 --> 01:42:59,483 I can't be possessed. 1670 01:42:59,518 --> 01:43:01,796 - I command you, Satan, to come out. 1671 01:43:01,830 --> 01:43:02,762 - I summoned them up. 1672 01:43:02,797 --> 01:43:04,212 They're not inside. 1673 01:43:08,492 --> 01:43:09,769 ...no! 1674 01:43:11,461 --> 01:43:12,393 - It is christ who 1675 01:43:12,427 --> 01:43:13,325 commands you. 1676 01:43:18,744 --> 01:43:24,577 - Do you believe in God? The devil? 1677 01:43:31,481 --> 01:43:33,966 - Chapman: Have you ever woken up from a deep sleep with 1678 01:43:34,000 --> 01:43:35,243 the sensation that something 1679 01:43:35,278 --> 01:43:37,832 evil is in the room? 1680 01:43:37,866 --> 01:43:39,247 You're not really awake, 1681 01:43:39,282 --> 01:43:40,662 but you're not really 1682 01:43:40,697 --> 01:43:43,217 dreaming either. 1683 01:43:43,251 --> 01:43:44,425 Your eyes won't open more 1684 01:43:44,459 --> 01:43:46,220 than about halfway. 1685 01:43:46,254 --> 01:43:49,084 You just feel paralyzed with a fear that's so powerful, 1686 01:43:49,119 --> 01:43:50,983 you don't know who you are. 1687 01:43:51,017 --> 01:43:54,814 You're so frightened you've virtually lost your identity. 1688 01:43:54,849 --> 01:43:56,920 Fear can do that, you know. 1689 01:43:56,954 --> 01:44:00,855 It can strip you of your identity. 1690 01:44:00,889 --> 01:44:01,580 There's nothing more 1691 01:44:01,614 --> 01:44:05,135 frightening than that... I know. 1692 01:44:06,826 --> 01:44:10,589 - Holy lord, almighty father, everlasting god 1693 01:44:10,623 --> 01:44:11,900 and father of our lord 1694 01:44:11,935 --> 01:44:15,870 Jesus Christ who once and for all consigned that fallen tyrant 1695 01:44:15,904 --> 01:44:17,699 to the flames of hell... 1696 01:44:18,459 --> 01:44:19,736 ...who sent your only begotten 1697 01:44:19,770 --> 01:44:21,427 son into the world to crush 1698 01:44:21,462 --> 01:44:23,464 that roaring lion... 1699 01:44:23,498 --> 01:44:25,707 - Chapman: I was in a very surreal world. 1700 01:44:25,742 --> 01:44:27,571 I was in an utter panic of sheer 1701 01:44:27,606 --> 01:44:28,745 terror and wanted things 1702 01:44:28,779 --> 01:44:30,505 to go back to the way they were 1703 01:44:30,540 --> 01:44:34,026 before I pulled the trigger. 1704 01:44:35,614 --> 01:44:39,342 - Bobby caldwell: 1705 01:45:09,337 --> 01:45:10,062 - Chapman: My whole life 1706 01:45:10,096 --> 01:45:12,720 was like that at that time... 1707 01:45:12,754 --> 01:45:15,516 a half-waking nightmare. 1708 01:45:15,550 --> 01:45:16,517 I couldn't wake up and 1709 01:45:16,551 --> 01:45:19,347 I couldn't sleep it away. 1710 01:45:19,382 --> 01:45:20,279 I was scared to death 1711 01:45:20,314 --> 01:45:22,108 but I couldn't scream. 1712 01:45:22,143 --> 01:45:23,765 I would try to scream and it 1713 01:45:23,800 --> 01:45:25,698 would remain echoing in my chest 1714 01:45:25,733 --> 01:45:29,081 without even being vocalized. 1715 01:45:29,115 --> 01:45:30,462 And that was what came out 1716 01:45:30,496 --> 01:45:31,601 that night in December 1717 01:45:31,635 --> 01:45:32,947 when John Lennon stepped out 1718 01:45:32,981 --> 01:45:35,536 of his limousine. 1719 01:45:35,570 --> 01:45:36,916 What came out of the barrel of 1720 01:45:36,951 --> 01:45:39,022 that gun that night was a giant 1721 01:45:39,056 --> 01:45:43,026 scream after all those years. 1722 01:46:00,699 --> 01:46:01,596 ...listen to some of 1723 01:46:01,631 --> 01:46:03,287 the Lennon records. 1724 01:46:03,322 --> 01:46:04,254 Listen to the background 1725 01:46:04,288 --> 01:46:06,567 of some of the Beatles' songs. 1726 01:46:06,601 --> 01:46:09,466 That screaming in the background, that's John Lennon. 1727 01:46:09,501 --> 01:46:11,019 Listen to him scream when he's 1728 01:46:11,054 --> 01:46:12,331 singing about not having his 1729 01:46:12,366 --> 01:46:14,368 mother, about being abandoned 1730 01:46:14,402 --> 01:46:17,440 by his mother and his father. 1731 01:46:17,474 --> 01:46:18,889 Poor guy's father left 1732 01:46:18,924 --> 01:46:21,029 the family then his mother 1733 01:46:21,064 --> 01:46:22,376 left him to be raised by 1734 01:46:22,410 --> 01:46:24,205 his aunt and uncle. 1735 01:46:24,239 --> 01:46:26,276 Then his mother got killed 1736 01:46:26,310 --> 01:46:27,519 after she came back to him 1737 01:46:27,553 --> 01:46:30,591 after all those years. 1738 01:46:30,625 --> 01:46:32,282 Just to think after a person had 1739 01:46:32,316 --> 01:46:33,594 been through all that he had 1740 01:46:33,628 --> 01:46:35,216 been through as a child, 1741 01:46:35,250 --> 01:46:36,424 then to get murdered by 1742 01:46:36,459 --> 01:46:41,360 somebody like me. 1743 01:46:41,395 --> 01:46:42,430 - Uh, thank you all 1744 01:46:42,465 --> 01:46:44,984 very much and god bless you. 1745 01:47:08,594 --> 01:47:09,388 - Male reporter: Under heavy 1746 01:47:09,423 --> 01:47:10,389 guard, mark chapman was brought 1747 01:47:10,424 --> 01:47:11,942 from prison to the state supreme 1748 01:47:11,977 --> 01:47:13,461 court in manhattan to hear 1749 01:47:13,496 --> 01:47:14,738 the judge's sentence. 1750 01:47:14,773 --> 01:47:16,464 Chapman showed no emotion 1751 01:47:16,499 --> 01:47:17,810 whatsoever when the sentence of 1752 01:47:17,845 --> 01:47:20,123 20 years-to-life was handed out, 1753 01:47:20,157 --> 01:47:21,642 but before that moment, there 1754 01:47:21,676 --> 01:47:23,229 was to be detailed evidence 1755 01:47:23,264 --> 01:47:27,441 about his state of mind. 1756 01:47:27,475 --> 01:47:28,683 - Chapman sat in a blue 1757 01:47:28,718 --> 01:47:30,305 t-shirt holding a copy of 1758 01:47:30,340 --> 01:47:31,721 catcher in the rye. 1759 01:47:31,755 --> 01:47:33,205 When the judge asked if he had 1760 01:47:33,239 --> 01:47:34,344 anything to say before the 1761 01:47:34,378 --> 01:47:36,484 sentence, chapman rose and read 1762 01:47:36,519 --> 01:47:39,107 a short passage from the book. 1763 01:47:39,142 --> 01:47:40,143 - Chapman: "...and I'm standing 1764 01:47:40,177 --> 01:47:42,352 at the edge of this crazy cliff. 1765 01:47:42,386 --> 01:47:44,009 What I have to do, I have 1766 01:47:44,043 --> 01:47:44,906 to catch everybody if 1767 01:47:44,941 --> 01:47:47,322 they start to go over the cliff. 1768 01:47:47,357 --> 01:47:48,462 I mean, if they're running and 1769 01:47:48,496 --> 01:47:49,566 they don't look where they're 1770 01:47:49,601 --> 01:47:51,085 going, I have to come out from 1771 01:47:51,119 --> 01:47:52,776 somewhere and catch them. 1772 01:47:52,811 --> 01:47:55,952 That's all I'll do all day. 1773 01:47:55,986 --> 01:47:57,298 I'd just stand there and be 1774 01:47:57,332 --> 01:47:59,714 the catcher in the rye and all. 1775 01:47:59,749 --> 01:48:00,888 I know it's crazy, 1776 01:48:00,922 --> 01:48:02,337 but that's the only thing 1777 01:48:02,372 --> 01:48:04,823 I'd really like to be. 1778 01:48:04,857 --> 01:48:06,997 I know it's crazy." 107842

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