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I presume you've seen the news
about the Hayley Reid case?
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The police think
she may have been our cleaner.
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I told them we all stayed
in the house that night,
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eating with our families.
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I have a daughter Maya,
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who I last saw 17 years ago.
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Three grand.
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I accidentally paid Salthouse's
cheque into my personal account.
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This isn't working, Pete,
you and me.
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Your marriage ended when?
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I haven't seen Derran
for many years,
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but I should just say that
she's had a number of issues.
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Christmas and New Year
can be quite stressful, can't it?
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Of the three of you
that were married,
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all of you were separated
within the year.
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That was nothing to do with anything
that happened on that break.
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No, it wasn't a pleasant evening.
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Someone might have bought some coke.
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Chris went completely nuts.
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There was another employee.
She went as Madonna
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and she left around 12:10.
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So she could have actually left
the pub earlier.
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We now have four men,
variously pissed, drugged up,
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possibly mentally unstable,
out somewhere in Middenham
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at exactly the same time as Hayley.
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♪ All you do is hide away
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♪ All you do is
All you do is hide away
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♪ All you do is lie and wait
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♪ All you do is
All you do is lie and wait
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♪ I've been upside down
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♪ I don't wanna be
The right way round
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♪ Can't find paradise
On the ground. ♪
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We just got the DNA swab results in
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and we've got a match to the blood
on the church break-in.
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Wow, who?
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Pete Carr.
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Bad man! Stop!
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Oh...! Argh...!
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Pete, please, they're supposed
to be eating breakfast!
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Oh, I'm sorry.
Go on, Will, do as your mum says.
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PHONE JINGLE
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Pete Carr.
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Mr Carr, DI Sunil Khan.
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Hi, morning.
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Mr Carr,
we need to speak to you again.
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Do you? About what?
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Well, we can discuss that
when we meet.
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We'd like you to be King's Lynn
police station at 1:30, please.
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Do I need a...
a lawyer or anything?
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I'm afraid I can't advise you
on legal representation.
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But we will be looking to
interview you under caution, so...
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Right, sure.
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Good. See you later. Bye.
Bye.
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Do you need a lawyer for what?
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The new FSA contracts.
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I was just asking Mark
if we need to run them by a lawyer.
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He says they're all fine.
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Come on.
Come and eat your breakfast.
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So DI Khan and I are heading
straight up to Norfolk now,
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following on from that DNA result.
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Although, obviously,
there are some questions
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for them all to answer now,
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following Melissa Hollis's
ever so slightly different account
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of that evening.
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Jake, it might be worth
speaking to Tim Finch's ex,
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see how she remembers the evening.
Guv.
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And James Hollis finally came back
about his car.
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It turns out he was driving
a black four-door BMW
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with a tow bar.
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Do you know if he had a trailer?
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Yeah.
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Interesting.
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And all this,
it feeds into a bigger question
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that I think we need to ask now.
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Because,
if what Melissa Hollis said is true,
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it means that not only did
all four men lie to us...
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..all four then appear
to have colluded in that lie.
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And at that point, I start to ask,
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why would they do that?
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Do you think they're all involved,
boss?
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I don't know. But I think
it has to be one of our options.
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Or maybe it's that one of them
killed her...
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..and the other three
covered up for him.
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Anyway, let's let that percolate
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and then we'll regroup
once we've spoken to Mr Carr.
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Thank you, everyone.
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Are you driving or me?
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TEXT MESSAGE BEEP
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Can we sue the site?
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We can try, but it's registered
to a 27-year-old woman
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that lives in a council flat.
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She literally has nothing to lose.
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Well, we've got to do something,
Linda.
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If you type me and Hayley Reid's
name into a search engine,
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those photographs come up
on three other sites already.
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And I've got a guy working
to get them taken down.
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I'm doing everything I can.
PHONE RINGS
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Call me back.
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Amy.
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Morning, James, do you wish
to comment on your connection to...?
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Daily Mirror, Mr Hollis.
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Are there any comment you'd like
to make about the Hayley Reid case?
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Did you stay long last night?
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No.
Left about half an hour after you.
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Knackered.
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Er, long enough for him
to ask me out to dinner, though.
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Don't.
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Er, I didn't...
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SUNNY CLEARS HIS THROAT
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They did the same with me.
It's what they do.
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It doesn't mean anything, I promise.
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And I asked for someone
to be with me.
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I told her, you know, the problem,
and she just ignored me.
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You explicitly asked her
for someone?
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Yes. Yes, definitely.
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Jesus, outrageous! How dare she?
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Listen, I have to shoot but,
if you're happy for me to do it,
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I'll make a formal complaint
on your behalf.
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Well, yeah. OK, yeah.
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Thank you.
No, I just...
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These people.
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I've just come off the phone
from an Inspector Chan in Hong Kong.
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And it turns out
he knew Peter Carr very well.
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Tell me.
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So, in 1985,
when Carr was living there...
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We've all been through some shit,
Chris, all done stuff....
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..we shouldn't have.
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So I'm just saying,
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you'll always be my friend, mate,
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no matter what.
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I love you, mate.
Yeah.
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Love you, too.
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CAR STARTS
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So I am going to ask you again,
Mr Carr...
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..were you in the house all evening?
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Not all evening, no.
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I was in the pub for a...
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..a fair bit.
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And that's from what time
to what time?
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From about...
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..8:30 to just before midnight.
Mm-hm.
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So why didn't you just tell us that?
I don't know, I...
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It was stupid.
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I just panicked, I suppose.
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I was on a bit of a pub crawl.
I was on my own.
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I guess I thought that didn't put me
in a good light.
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In relation to Hayley Reid, I mean.
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So I... I just said
I was in the house with the others.
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You said that
you were on a pub crawl.
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Yes.
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Did you pass St Matthew's church
on the way back?
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No.
Are you sure?
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Yes.
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Are you sure you didn't, in fact,
break into St Matthew's church
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and steal some silverware
from a cupboard in the vestry?
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We have a DNA match to you,
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from blood samples taken at the time
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from the window that you smashed
to get in.
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Was that you?
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Yes.
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I was, er...
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My company was having
some cash flow issues and, er...
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..with all the Christmas
and New Year expenditure,
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I found I didn't have enough money
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for my flight back to Hong Kong,
so...
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I'd been in there
the previous evening...
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..to a service...
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..and seen the silverware and...
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It was an utterly shameful thing
to do and I am so sorry.
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Are you OK?
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Yeah, fine.
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Not having second thoughts?
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Never.
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Never. No.
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I'm just tired.
Good.
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I wish to introduce evidence
of bad character
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under the Criminal Justice Act 2001.
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See, we've been speaking
to the Hong Kong police.
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Do you want to tell us
about the three-month sentence
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that you served in 1995
in Lo Wu Correctional Facility
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for defrauding a disability charity
of $100,000,
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an amount which caused it
to close down?
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I was set up.
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That was all.
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The system out there was corrupt.
I was set up.
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Really?
Yes, fucking really!
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You see, I think you give
a very good impression
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of being a decent, if slightly
hapless businessman, Peter.
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But I think you have
a much darker side.
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Do you?
Yes, I do.
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I think you have a side that thinks
primarily of what you need.
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Maybe once.
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Not now.
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Well, indeed, because I think,
when you broke into that church,
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that was exactly
what you were thinking,
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"How do I get myself
out of this hole?"
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But I would never have hurt anyone.
I'm sure you didn't plan to.
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But then, maybe...
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..maybe Hayley saw you go in
and she confronted you.
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Now, you knew she could
identify you from the Spinney.
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No.
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So you did what you needed to do
to protect your needs.
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Not true.
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Except you've lied to us, Peter...
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..from the moment we spoke to you,
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so why should we suddenly
start believing you now?
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Can I get through, please?
REPORTERS SHOUT QUESTIONS
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Excuse me. Out of my way, please.
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Thank you.
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SHOUTED QUESTIONS CONTINUE
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When exactly
where you planning to tell me?
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SHE SIGHS
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What do you think?
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He's clearly a fraud.
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And weak.
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And a liar.
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The question is,
do I sense violence?
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I don't know.
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I wouldn't want to see him
backed into a corner, though.
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Tell me what's going on,
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or I swear I will go in there
right now and ask them myself.
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OK, right, well, that seems to chime
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pretty much with what Melissa Hollis
told us.
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And, erm... what's my ex said,
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what's Timothy said
about the evening?
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I'm afraid I can't really go into
too many details about that.
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It's just, when you rang,
it wasn't a complete shock.
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I'm sorry?
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I think,
on some subconscious level...
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..I had always wondered.
Well, wondered what?
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If he could have been involved.
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I mean, I'm sure he's told you
I'm delusional...
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..and a fantasist.
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Mad.
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And maybe I have had periods when
I've not acted entirely rationally.
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I know I've alienated
my daughters and...
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..and I'm incredibly sad
about that, but...
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..the way I've been, what I became,
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that was actually
entirely because of him.
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Dr Finch?
Yes.
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How do you mean?
I mean...
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..to talk to,
on the face of it, in public...
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..you would think he was
such a lovely man, wouldn't you?
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Kind and gentle...
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..and good.
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"A good man" was how people
always described him in our village.
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But behind closed doors, he's the
most manipulative, calculating man
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I've ever met and
he made my life a complete misery.
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How so?
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For the 13 years
that we were married,
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he tried to control
every single aspect of it.
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He stopped me from working.
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He cut me off from my friends.
254
00:14:14,487 --> 00:14:17,378
He stopped me going out at all
by the end.
255
00:14:18,799 --> 00:14:22,824
Well, he abused me mentally,
physically...
256
00:14:24,930 --> 00:14:27,090
..sometimes even sexually.
257
00:14:27,900 --> 00:14:30,929
And if I hadn't managed
to escaped when I did...
258
00:14:32,167 --> 00:14:35,047
..who knows what he might have
ended up doing?
259
00:14:41,159 --> 00:14:42,749
Four days ago?
260
00:14:42,796 --> 00:14:45,050
Obviously, just as a witness, so...
261
00:14:45,326 --> 00:14:46,446
So...?
262
00:14:46,530 --> 00:14:49,370
So, what? So that means
you didn't need to mention it to me.
263
00:14:49,530 --> 00:14:51,210
I'm sorry, I should have.
264
00:14:51,510 --> 00:14:53,270
How do you even do that?
265
00:14:53,330 --> 00:14:57,010
We've been out to dinner,
we've had a million conversations,
266
00:14:57,170 --> 00:14:59,530
we've had sex, and I...
267
00:14:59,730 --> 00:15:02,610
..never once had an inkling
that you were lying to me.
268
00:15:02,810 --> 00:15:05,330
I never lied. Oh, please,
by omission, yes, you lied.
269
00:15:05,530 --> 00:15:08,330
PHONE JINGLE
Just leave the phone, Jamie....
270
00:15:08,530 --> 00:15:10,730
It's my agent.
She's rung three times already.
271
00:15:10,890 --> 00:15:12,170
Sue...
272
00:15:18,970 --> 00:15:20,730
I'll call you back.
273
00:15:23,730 --> 00:15:25,890
They're suspending recordings
for a month.
274
00:15:26,890 --> 00:15:28,010
SHE SCOFFS
275
00:15:31,090 --> 00:15:33,250
So, is there anything else
you haven't told me?
276
00:15:37,570 --> 00:15:39,130
Jesus, you're...
277
00:15:39,330 --> 00:15:41,210
..you're meant to say no
really quickly.
278
00:15:41,410 --> 00:15:44,370
You're meant to get really cross and
say, "No, of course there isn't!"
279
00:15:44,570 --> 00:15:47,170
No, of course there isn't.
I need to speak to my solicitor.
280
00:15:47,330 --> 00:15:48,650
Well, don't just walk out now!
281
00:15:52,050 --> 00:15:53,610
Oh, hi, Usha. It's me.
282
00:15:53,810 --> 00:15:57,290
Sunil, I can't really talk
right now. I'm at work.
283
00:15:57,490 --> 00:15:59,650
But I was wondering,
could we meet up?
284
00:16:00,770 --> 00:16:02,250
Er, why?
285
00:16:03,290 --> 00:16:05,570
I'd really prefer not to say
over the phone.
286
00:16:05,730 --> 00:16:07,850
I'd prefer to see you in person.
287
00:16:07,890 --> 00:16:09,690
Right.
288
00:16:09,850 --> 00:16:11,650
I really wouldn't.
289
00:16:12,930 --> 00:16:16,330
Look, I know you have every right
to be angry with me, Sunny.
290
00:16:16,490 --> 00:16:18,170
I know how much I hurt you.
291
00:16:19,850 --> 00:16:22,290
But I've been doing
a lot of soul searching recently.
292
00:16:23,930 --> 00:16:25,370
And I've realised...
293
00:16:26,410 --> 00:16:27,810
..I made a terrible mistake.
294
00:16:27,970 --> 00:16:30,290
I miss you and the girls.
295
00:16:30,450 --> 00:16:32,570
I miss us all living together.
296
00:16:34,650 --> 00:16:36,370
I want to come back.
297
00:16:38,090 --> 00:16:40,490
HE SIGHS HEAVILY
298
00:16:40,690 --> 00:16:42,410
And has she got any proof
of anything?
299
00:16:42,570 --> 00:16:43,770
Oh, I asked her exactly that.
300
00:16:43,930 --> 00:16:45,650
Which didn't go down very well.
301
00:16:45,850 --> 00:16:48,530
She got slightly defensive
and asked me to leave.
302
00:16:48,730 --> 00:16:51,210
But what was your general sense
of her, as a person?
303
00:16:51,370 --> 00:16:53,490
Did she...? Did she feel credible?
304
00:16:54,810 --> 00:16:57,810
It's hard to say. She certainly
felt like a very damaged woman.
305
00:16:58,010 --> 00:17:02,010
If that make her more or less
credible, I don't know, Guv.
306
00:17:03,130 --> 00:17:05,970
OK, let's go for a Section 23
for her medical records,
307
00:17:06,170 --> 00:17:09,450
see if what Finch said about her
mental health was true. Speak later.
308
00:17:09,610 --> 00:17:10,650
Guv.
309
00:17:14,490 --> 00:17:16,810
HE STARTS THE CAR
310
00:17:16,970 --> 00:17:18,130
Are you all right?
311
00:17:20,290 --> 00:17:22,450
Not really, no.
312
00:17:22,610 --> 00:17:23,850
Talk to me.
313
00:17:32,610 --> 00:17:36,090
It was a day centre for adults
with learning difficulties.
314
00:17:36,290 --> 00:17:38,810
I met the team who ran it
at a charity function
315
00:17:39,010 --> 00:17:42,050
and it turns out they needed someone
to restructure their finances,
316
00:17:42,210 --> 00:17:44,130
so I offered my services.
317
00:17:44,290 --> 00:17:46,450
I genuinely wanted to help them.
318
00:17:47,490 --> 00:17:49,090
And then...
319
00:17:49,290 --> 00:17:52,690
..my business started having
some cash flow issues and, er...
320
00:17:54,690 --> 00:17:57,450
I only ever intended
to borrow the money, Maria.
321
00:17:57,610 --> 00:17:59,170
I was always going to pay it back.
322
00:18:00,650 --> 00:18:04,010
Then a tax demand came in earlier
than expected and...
323
00:18:06,330 --> 00:18:08,330
It was all just bad timing.
324
00:18:09,450 --> 00:18:11,690
No-one was more upset than me
325
00:18:11,890 --> 00:18:13,850
when they were evicted,
I promise you.
326
00:18:16,050 --> 00:18:17,330
And the church thing...
327
00:18:19,810 --> 00:18:21,210
No excuses.
328
00:18:22,850 --> 00:18:24,970
Which is what I told the police.
329
00:18:25,170 --> 00:18:27,890
I deserve to be charged.
I deserve to be punished.
330
00:18:28,050 --> 00:18:30,170
It was a terrible thing to do.
331
00:18:30,210 --> 00:18:31,890
But that is it, Maria.
332
00:18:32,050 --> 00:18:33,930
That is everything.
333
00:18:34,090 --> 00:18:35,410
I promise.
334
00:18:36,930 --> 00:18:40,610
I had nothing to do
with that poor girl's death.
335
00:18:42,010 --> 00:18:44,890
And I'm telling you all of this
because
336
00:18:45,090 --> 00:18:49,010
I want you to know the very worst
things that I've done...
337
00:18:50,330 --> 00:18:53,210
..and to assure you
that I have changed.
338
00:18:54,570 --> 00:18:57,690
You and the boys have changed me,
Maria.
339
00:18:59,050 --> 00:19:00,810
I'm not that man any more.
340
00:19:05,010 --> 00:19:07,370
Thank you for finally
being honest with me, Pete.
341
00:19:08,810 --> 00:19:11,050
I appreciate that. I really do.
342
00:19:11,250 --> 00:19:15,490
And I accept
you never meant to do any harm.
343
00:19:15,690 --> 00:19:18,530
I don't think you ever set out
to harm.
344
00:19:21,330 --> 00:19:22,850
But let's just be clear...
345
00:19:24,530 --> 00:19:26,930
..you only told me
because I made you.
346
00:19:29,090 --> 00:19:33,010
And you are deluded
if you think this ushers in
347
00:19:33,170 --> 00:19:35,130
some new chapter in our lives.
348
00:19:35,330 --> 00:19:37,490
Maz...
And more importantly,
349
00:19:37,530 --> 00:19:41,810
if you think
I will allow my children
350
00:19:41,970 --> 00:19:44,090
to be brought up by a man like you,
351
00:19:44,250 --> 00:19:47,810
who steals from the disabled
352
00:19:47,970 --> 00:19:49,450
and from old men...
353
00:19:51,450 --> 00:19:53,210
..and worse.
354
00:19:53,410 --> 00:19:57,250
A man who's been lying to himself
for so many years,
355
00:19:57,450 --> 00:20:00,050
he doesn't even know
what the truth is any more.
356
00:20:01,290 --> 00:20:04,850
I think you could have killed
that poor girl...
357
00:20:06,570 --> 00:20:10,290
..and you could still sit here
opposite me
358
00:20:10,450 --> 00:20:12,770
swearing it wasn't you,
359
00:20:12,930 --> 00:20:15,210
and actually believe it yourself.
360
00:20:15,370 --> 00:20:18,170
Maria, I did not kill her.
361
00:20:19,650 --> 00:20:21,170
It's finished, Pete.
362
00:20:24,850 --> 00:20:26,210
Maria...
363
00:20:26,370 --> 00:20:28,170
Get your fucking hand off me!
364
00:20:28,370 --> 00:20:29,810
I'm sorry.
I didn't mean to hurt you.
365
00:20:29,850 --> 00:20:31,090
I'm sorry.
366
00:20:53,690 --> 00:20:55,130
I'm not saying that.
367
00:20:55,290 --> 00:20:57,090
You literally just did.
368
00:20:57,250 --> 00:20:59,850
What I said was you've been...
369
00:21:01,930 --> 00:21:04,490
..forgetting lots of things
recently.
370
00:21:04,650 --> 00:21:06,770
And why not have a test,
371
00:21:06,810 --> 00:21:08,210
put your mind at rest?
372
00:21:08,370 --> 00:21:10,210
My mind is at rest.
373
00:21:10,370 --> 00:21:11,490
OK, mine, then.
374
00:21:11,690 --> 00:21:13,850
Because it's not that relaxing
wondering if...
375
00:21:13,890 --> 00:21:16,130
..if today's the day
you're going to burn the house down.
376
00:21:17,810 --> 00:21:19,330
Sorry, I meant...
377
00:21:21,330 --> 00:21:24,290
I think you need to take
a bit of a look at yourself, Cass.
378
00:21:24,490 --> 00:21:26,970
Oh, really, is that a dad lecture
coming up, is it?
379
00:21:27,170 --> 00:21:29,690
Well, you clearly don't want me
to be with Jenny. Not true.
380
00:21:29,890 --> 00:21:32,730
You clearly think she's trying
to fleece me. Er, a little bit.
381
00:21:32,930 --> 00:21:36,090
And I'm guessing
suggesting that I have dementia
382
00:21:36,290 --> 00:21:38,730
is just another way of trying
to scupper the relationship.
383
00:21:38,890 --> 00:21:41,210
But actually... the problem is you.
384
00:21:41,370 --> 00:21:43,570
Is it? How's that, then?
385
00:21:43,770 --> 00:21:46,690
Well, you don't want me to leave,
my love, because you're lonely.
386
00:21:46,850 --> 00:21:48,690
And I understand that. I really do.
387
00:21:48,850 --> 00:21:50,970
But I probably am going.
388
00:21:52,250 --> 00:21:54,050
And I probably am going
to marry her.
389
00:21:54,210 --> 00:21:55,210
Hm...
390
00:21:57,010 --> 00:21:58,890
And you need to accept that.
391
00:22:03,010 --> 00:22:04,410
DOOR CLOSES
392
00:22:06,810 --> 00:22:10,010
And of course Robert, the central
male character of your first novel,
393
00:22:10,210 --> 00:22:13,370
was a working-class
grammar school boy,
394
00:22:13,570 --> 00:22:15,490
who became
a very successful journalist.
395
00:22:15,690 --> 00:22:17,850
This felt like
a very personal story.
396
00:22:19,090 --> 00:22:20,690
Well, er...
397
00:22:20,890 --> 00:22:23,330
..the pain that the character
of Annie goes through,
398
00:22:23,530 --> 00:22:26,210
as she discovers her husband
has been serially unfaithful,
399
00:22:26,410 --> 00:22:29,050
was something I did feel
I understood.
400
00:22:30,570 --> 00:22:32,730
But what I wanted
to try and explore,
401
00:22:32,770 --> 00:22:34,570
through his multiple liaisons,
402
00:22:34,730 --> 00:22:36,610
was what it was in the male psyche
403
00:22:36,810 --> 00:22:41,770
that needed
this constant sexual validation.
404
00:22:41,930 --> 00:22:43,850
ON RADIO: I mean, was this, in fact,
405
00:22:44,050 --> 00:22:46,210
just a normal extension
of male sexual identity
406
00:22:46,250 --> 00:22:49,330
or did it suggest something darker,
407
00:22:49,490 --> 00:22:51,410
something more aberrant?
408
00:23:19,530 --> 00:23:21,410
Who got her this?
409
00:23:21,570 --> 00:23:23,330
We had a collection, my team.
410
00:23:24,410 --> 00:23:25,930
Obviously, you'll want to, erm...
411
00:23:27,530 --> 00:23:29,690
..choose your own for the funeral,
but...
412
00:23:31,010 --> 00:23:34,370
..bring her here, we all wanted
something nice for her.
413
00:23:34,530 --> 00:23:35,610
Thank you.
414
00:23:36,650 --> 00:23:38,090
Thank all your team, please.
415
00:23:49,730 --> 00:23:52,970
I've asked, when we bury her,
for them to arrange her...
416
00:23:54,410 --> 00:23:56,570
..her bones, properly.
417
00:23:58,090 --> 00:24:01,330
And they're not to leave her
anywhere in the dark before then.
418
00:24:02,530 --> 00:24:04,210
She didn't like the dark.
419
00:24:11,730 --> 00:24:14,130
I miss you, my darling sister.
420
00:24:15,810 --> 00:24:17,930
I love you.
421
00:24:44,130 --> 00:24:47,890
I paid you your settlement, Derran,
in full, 15 years ago.
422
00:24:48,090 --> 00:24:50,690
So you say.
No, so the court says.
423
00:24:52,330 --> 00:24:53,770
I want the rest of it.
424
00:24:55,090 --> 00:24:56,490
Or you will regret it.
425
00:24:57,530 --> 00:24:59,450
And why will I regret it?
426
00:24:59,650 --> 00:25:01,970
Because I have evidence
of what you did to me
427
00:25:02,170 --> 00:25:05,050
and I don't think you want them
to see that, do you, the police?
428
00:25:05,210 --> 00:25:06,210
Not right now.
429
00:25:07,210 --> 00:25:10,330
Oh, right, so you're blackmailing
me now, are you?
430
00:25:11,450 --> 00:25:13,730
I just want what you owe me.
431
00:25:13,930 --> 00:25:16,970
OK. And how much
do we think that is, then?
432
00:25:18,530 --> 00:25:19,850
50,000.
433
00:25:23,890 --> 00:25:27,370
You see, if you'd pitched it
a little more realistically,
434
00:25:27,570 --> 00:25:29,730
you might have got
ten grand out of me,
435
00:25:29,770 --> 00:25:30,810
just to be rid of you.
436
00:25:32,330 --> 00:25:34,250
But you always were a bit dim.
437
00:25:35,770 --> 00:25:39,170
OK, go to the police,
tell them what the fuck you like,
438
00:25:39,370 --> 00:25:41,330
but you're not getting anything
out of me.
439
00:25:41,490 --> 00:25:43,490
And if you come back here again,
440
00:25:43,650 --> 00:25:45,250
I'll call the police for you.
441
00:26:01,810 --> 00:26:03,650
Carol, call me
when you get this, please.
442
00:26:03,850 --> 00:26:05,530
I need to talk to you
about something.
443
00:26:05,690 --> 00:26:07,010
It's fairly urgent.
444
00:26:09,770 --> 00:26:11,890
TYRES SCREECH
445
00:26:15,570 --> 00:26:18,130
And when did you last speak
to your father, Miss Lowe?
446
00:26:18,330 --> 00:26:20,890
The last contact I had with him
was when Mum died, six years ago.
447
00:26:21,010 --> 00:26:22,530
I wrote to him via his friend Tim.
448
00:26:22,730 --> 00:26:24,890
So you haven't actually spoken
since...?
449
00:26:25,050 --> 00:26:26,610
The day Mum threw him out.
450
00:26:26,770 --> 00:26:27,970
Right.
451
00:26:29,050 --> 00:26:31,810
So, we spoke to your father
452
00:26:32,010 --> 00:26:33,970
and we spoke to
his ex-business partner.
453
00:26:34,130 --> 00:26:35,370
Helen.
454
00:26:35,530 --> 00:26:36,690
Yes.
455
00:26:36,850 --> 00:26:38,290
And they both offered a slight...
456
00:26:39,530 --> 00:26:43,370
..lack of clarity as to why
he stood down from his own company
457
00:26:43,530 --> 00:26:45,650
and why the marriage then failed.
458
00:26:45,810 --> 00:26:48,250
We wondered if maybe...
459
00:26:48,410 --> 00:26:50,370
..you could clarify anything.
460
00:26:50,530 --> 00:26:52,410
The two things were connected.
461
00:26:52,570 --> 00:26:54,970
They split because, in October 1999,
462
00:26:55,170 --> 00:26:57,330
police officers arrested him
at his office
463
00:26:57,370 --> 00:26:59,370
as an early part
of the Landmark case.
464
00:26:59,570 --> 00:27:02,610
Basically, he'd used his credit card
to visit child abuse websites.
465
00:27:04,170 --> 00:27:06,450
A couple of months later,
despite him begging her not to,
466
00:27:06,610 --> 00:27:08,450
Helen told Mum.
467
00:27:08,610 --> 00:27:10,010
Is that enough detail?
468
00:27:11,050 --> 00:27:12,050
Yes.
469
00:27:12,170 --> 00:27:13,930
Thank you.
470
00:27:37,470 --> 00:27:38,494
Mel!
471
00:27:38,790 --> 00:27:40,110
Why would you do that?
472
00:27:40,208 --> 00:27:42,728
Why would you go on national radio
and talk about him like that?
473
00:27:42,753 --> 00:27:45,132
I think you know why.
Because you're lonely and bitter?
474
00:27:45,188 --> 00:27:48,190
Because you can't bear to see him
happy? I've always liked you, Amy.
475
00:27:48,459 --> 00:27:50,739
I've always thought you were smart,
ballsy.
476
00:27:52,046 --> 00:27:54,524
I even admire the fact
that you're here right now.
477
00:27:54,549 --> 00:27:56,892
But that interview went out
under 24 hours ago
478
00:27:56,917 --> 00:28:00,005
and already I have five e-mails
from women I knew nothing about,
479
00:28:00,030 --> 00:28:01,580
and I knew about a lot,
480
00:28:01,963 --> 00:28:03,971
talking about his sexual tastes,
481
00:28:04,085 --> 00:28:07,525
his voracious appetite, the things
he used to ask them to do.
482
00:28:07,854 --> 00:28:11,094
That stuff online about him
and that poor girl scared them.
483
00:28:11,712 --> 00:28:12,952
And it scared me.
484
00:28:12,977 --> 00:28:16,291
And I'm sorry but...
it should scare you.
485
00:28:17,270 --> 00:28:19,830
What are you going to do with them,
the e-mails?
486
00:28:19,858 --> 00:28:21,738
Send them to the police, of course.
What else?
487
00:28:21,788 --> 00:28:23,455
That's why I did the interview.
488
00:28:33,230 --> 00:28:36,990
So, I've just re-checked
and we have no record
489
00:28:37,190 --> 00:28:39,190
of a Christopher Lowe
on our systems at all.
490
00:28:40,430 --> 00:28:41,750
Could he have changed his name?
491
00:28:41,950 --> 00:28:44,870
Well, we know his surname was Lowe
because it was in the company name.
492
00:28:45,030 --> 00:28:46,830
But maybe his first name?
493
00:28:46,990 --> 00:28:49,110
OK, we'll check. In the meantime...
494
00:28:49,310 --> 00:28:52,590
..Melissa Hollis
forwarded these on to me.
495
00:28:52,790 --> 00:28:55,830
They're from various women
James Hollis had relationships with
496
00:28:56,030 --> 00:28:59,030
whilst married to her
and to his current wife. Nice.
497
00:28:59,230 --> 00:29:02,470
They detail some of his more...
exotic exploits.
498
00:29:02,630 --> 00:29:05,150
A penchant for outdoor sex.
499
00:29:05,350 --> 00:29:08,710
One woman talks about a rape fantasy
he asked her play out.
500
00:29:08,910 --> 00:29:11,070
Anything illegal?
Not so far.
501
00:29:11,270 --> 00:29:14,870
Jake, did you manage to access
Derran Finch's medical records?
502
00:29:15,030 --> 00:29:16,910
Er, yeah, I did.
503
00:29:17,110 --> 00:29:19,270
And, basically, her ex-husband
was telling the truth.
504
00:29:19,310 --> 00:29:22,750
She has been treated for various
mental health issues over the years.
505
00:29:22,950 --> 00:29:25,830
Though, I'm not sure if they
tip over into the delusional, but...
506
00:29:26,030 --> 00:29:28,950
OK. Well, given what we've
just learned about Chris Lowe,
507
00:29:29,150 --> 00:29:32,310
I think we should prioritise him
right now. Let's get him down here.
508
00:29:34,350 --> 00:29:36,350
Can you tell me why you need
to speak to me again?
509
00:29:36,550 --> 00:29:38,270
Because I told you
everything I know.
510
00:29:38,470 --> 00:29:39,950
Some new information
has come to light
511
00:29:40,150 --> 00:29:42,870
which we'd like to go over with you.
What new information?
512
00:29:43,070 --> 00:29:45,350
Or I can get officers
from our Bristol police station
513
00:29:45,510 --> 00:29:46,830
to arrest you and bring you down.
514
00:29:46,910 --> 00:29:49,150
You know, my friend made
a complaint about your colleague
515
00:29:49,230 --> 00:29:50,750
and I just might make one about you.
516
00:29:50,910 --> 00:29:51,950
DI Sunil Khan.
517
00:29:52,150 --> 00:29:54,550
S-U-N-I-L K-H-A-N,
Bishop's Street Police Station.
518
00:29:54,750 --> 00:29:56,550
I can send you the right form,
if you like.
519
00:29:58,990 --> 00:30:01,830
Well, I suppose I can be there
by 12 tomorrow.
520
00:30:01,990 --> 00:30:03,430
See you at midday, Mr Lowe.
521
00:30:03,590 --> 00:30:04,590
SUNNY HANGS UP
522
00:30:10,190 --> 00:30:13,830
Then, unfortunately, the police
also then spoke to your mum,
523
00:30:14,030 --> 00:30:17,030
because she was obviously
at the holiday house as well.
524
00:30:17,230 --> 00:30:19,630
As were we, having a lovely time.
Indeed.
525
00:30:19,830 --> 00:30:23,270
Anyway, I don't know specifically
what she might have said to them,
526
00:30:23,470 --> 00:30:25,830
although I can imagine
it was fairly negative about me.
527
00:30:25,990 --> 00:30:28,230
But more importantly,
528
00:30:28,430 --> 00:30:31,350
she's now threatened
to go to the police with evidence
529
00:30:31,550 --> 00:30:33,990
of some wrongdoing I've apparently
committed against her...
530
00:30:35,870 --> 00:30:37,630
..unless I give her £50,000.
531
00:30:37,790 --> 00:30:38,990
What? No way!
532
00:30:39,190 --> 00:30:41,350
Oh, my God, that woman!
Dad, I'm so sorry.
533
00:30:41,550 --> 00:30:45,150
And you really don't need this
after everything else.
534
00:30:45,350 --> 00:30:48,270
I doubt very much
whether she'll go through with it.
535
00:30:48,470 --> 00:30:50,630
Not least because there is nothing,
but...
536
00:30:50,670 --> 00:30:52,910
Yeah, I'll be honest,
it's pretty tedious.
537
00:30:54,230 --> 00:30:57,870
And I'm afraid I did rather lose my
temper with her. I don't blame you.
538
00:30:58,070 --> 00:30:59,790
So she drove down today?
Yeah.
539
00:30:59,990 --> 00:31:02,790
I pretty much came straight here
from talking to her in my surgery.
540
00:31:02,990 --> 00:31:05,590
Jesus... And when did they first
speak to you, then, the police?
541
00:31:06,710 --> 00:31:09,190
Er... Monday, I think it was.
542
00:31:09,350 --> 00:31:10,670
Monday?
543
00:31:10,870 --> 00:31:13,310
Wow, that was three days ago.
Yeah, I know.
544
00:31:13,510 --> 00:31:15,470
I should have told you before,
but...
545
00:31:15,670 --> 00:31:18,150
to be honest, the whole thing
only took a couple of minutes.
546
00:31:18,350 --> 00:31:20,750
And if it hadn't have been
for your mother ramping things up,
547
00:31:20,950 --> 00:31:23,110
I probably would have forgotten
all about it.
548
00:31:23,150 --> 00:31:26,430
And I'm sure they're speaking
to hundreds of potential witnesses.
549
00:31:26,630 --> 00:31:29,230
Basically, they're speaking
to anyone and everyone
550
00:31:29,430 --> 00:31:31,830
who was resident in the town
that week.
551
00:31:32,030 --> 00:31:34,510
That poor girl's parents.
I know.
552
00:31:34,670 --> 00:31:36,230
It's just brutal for them.
553
00:31:36,390 --> 00:31:38,230
I can't even begin to imagine.
554
00:31:39,710 --> 00:31:41,870
Right, well,
I think a cup of tea is in order.
555
00:31:41,910 --> 00:31:43,150
Good idea. I'll help you.
556
00:31:50,230 --> 00:31:52,190
You all right, love?
Yeah, yeah. All good.
557
00:31:57,430 --> 00:31:59,150
Is Jake around?
558
00:31:59,310 --> 00:32:00,830
Left already, I think.
559
00:32:01,030 --> 00:32:03,470
There's a lady downstairs,
says she's Tim Finch's ex-wife
560
00:32:03,670 --> 00:32:05,910
and has some photos
she would like to show him.
561
00:32:07,190 --> 00:32:08,310
Guv...
562
00:32:08,470 --> 00:32:10,270
And when were these taken?
563
00:32:11,430 --> 00:32:13,310
Mid-to late-'90s.
564
00:32:13,470 --> 00:32:15,150
And who took them?
565
00:32:15,310 --> 00:32:17,470
My friend Keera.
566
00:32:17,670 --> 00:32:19,310
She used to live a few doors down
from us.
567
00:32:19,470 --> 00:32:21,430
Can we speak to Keera?
568
00:32:21,590 --> 00:32:23,710
She died in 2003.
569
00:32:23,750 --> 00:32:24,750
Right.
570
00:32:24,950 --> 00:32:27,430
And she never suggested you speak
to the police at the time?
571
00:32:27,630 --> 00:32:30,830
She did, but she also knew
how scared I was of him...
572
00:32:31,870 --> 00:32:33,830
..of what he might do if I did,
573
00:32:34,030 --> 00:32:36,190
so she knew
it had to be my decision.
574
00:32:36,230 --> 00:32:38,190
Did you ever speak to a doctor
about the injuries?
575
00:32:38,310 --> 00:32:39,830
I was too scared he'd find out.
576
00:32:41,710 --> 00:32:43,550
I have to say, Mrs Finch,
577
00:32:43,750 --> 00:32:46,390
we can't really see your face
in these pictures
578
00:32:46,590 --> 00:32:50,830
and it could be quite hard to prove
that this is actually you
579
00:32:50,990 --> 00:32:52,590
from over 20 years ago.
580
00:32:55,190 --> 00:32:56,590
Who else would it be?
581
00:32:56,750 --> 00:32:57,830
Well, I don't know, but....
582
00:32:57,950 --> 00:33:00,270
Why else would I drive
all the way down here?
583
00:33:01,590 --> 00:33:03,870
I have nothing to gain
from doing this.
584
00:33:04,910 --> 00:33:08,270
I just want to help you catch
that poor little girl's killer.
585
00:33:10,230 --> 00:33:13,270
And I want you to understand
what he is capable of.
586
00:33:16,790 --> 00:33:18,470
What do you think?
587
00:33:19,670 --> 00:33:23,230
I think this was a house
fucking full of secrets and lies.
588
00:33:24,830 --> 00:33:27,150
And I think it might be worth
speaking to the kids
589
00:33:27,350 --> 00:33:29,710
to see what their experience
of this marriage was.
590
00:33:31,230 --> 00:33:33,550
Maybe check
his professional history.
591
00:33:34,630 --> 00:33:37,030
And then I think I want to sleep
for a year.
592
00:33:42,390 --> 00:33:44,710
I have never lied to you, Amy.
593
00:33:44,910 --> 00:33:47,830
I always told you there would be
other women that I....
594
00:33:48,030 --> 00:33:50,390
Oh, come on, don't get coy now,
other women that you fucked.
595
00:33:50,470 --> 00:33:51,750
But only one I loved.
596
00:33:52,990 --> 00:33:55,390
And liking a shag in the woods
doesn't make me a murderer.
597
00:33:55,590 --> 00:33:57,870
DOORBELL RINGS
Jesus!
598
00:33:59,110 --> 00:34:00,670
These journalists...!
599
00:34:05,430 --> 00:34:07,110
Pete!
She's kicked me out, Jamie.
600
00:34:07,270 --> 00:34:08,550
Can I kip at yours for a bit?
601
00:34:11,590 --> 00:34:13,310
I'm sorry you feel let down, mate,
602
00:34:13,510 --> 00:34:15,670
but I have issues of my own
at the moment
603
00:34:15,710 --> 00:34:17,710
and I need to spend some time alone
with Amy.
604
00:34:17,870 --> 00:34:19,270
Mate, I've nowhere to stay tonight.
605
00:34:19,390 --> 00:34:21,110
Then find a hotel,
like a normal person.
606
00:34:21,310 --> 00:34:24,190
With what?
I gave you three grand two days ago.
607
00:34:24,350 --> 00:34:25,950
Nice.
608
00:34:26,110 --> 00:34:27,590
Just throw that back in my face.
609
00:34:27,790 --> 00:34:29,390
I'm not throwing it back
in your face.
610
00:34:29,590 --> 00:34:31,390
I'm just reminding you
that I have helped you
611
00:34:31,550 --> 00:34:33,230
innumerable times over the years,
612
00:34:33,430 --> 00:34:35,590
and the one time I say no,
you get arsy.
613
00:34:35,630 --> 00:34:36,830
Grow up.
614
00:34:36,990 --> 00:34:38,150
Fine.
615
00:34:41,510 --> 00:34:44,110
You might just want to consider
something, though.
616
00:34:46,270 --> 00:34:47,670
I know stuff, Jamie,
617
00:34:47,830 --> 00:34:50,270
about your boy that night.
618
00:34:50,430 --> 00:34:52,070
Stuff I've never mentioned before.
619
00:34:52,270 --> 00:34:55,270
You might just want
to bear that in mind.
620
00:34:58,230 --> 00:35:00,350
Get the fuck out of my house.
621
00:35:22,590 --> 00:35:23,590
Oh...
622
00:35:43,049 --> 00:35:46,244
Well, call data records show
that James Hollis rang Tim Finch
623
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,517
about an hour after
we interviewed him. Oh, OK.
624
00:35:48,588 --> 00:35:51,520
And he also spoke to Pete Carr,
but not to Chris Lowe.
625
00:35:51,633 --> 00:35:54,431
Interesting.
Did any of the others ring Lowe?
626
00:35:54,538 --> 00:35:57,181
No, but Lowe rang Finch
just after I called him yesterday.
627
00:35:57,240 --> 00:36:00,298
But the call length suggested
it went straight to voice mail.
628
00:36:00,463 --> 00:36:04,480
So the most vulnerable of the four
is left the most isolated.
629
00:36:04,507 --> 00:36:06,033
Which might be coincidence.
630
00:36:06,058 --> 00:36:07,909
Yeah, or it might not be.
Yeah.
631
00:36:08,161 --> 00:36:10,059
Dr Finch, it turns out,
has just been involved
632
00:36:10,113 --> 00:36:12,280
in a professional misconduct case.
633
00:36:12,314 --> 00:36:14,554
I mean, I should point out
he was completely exonerated.
634
00:36:14,579 --> 00:36:16,165
But the allegation was,
635
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,840
"He was verbally abusive
to an elderly patient,
636
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,880
"including an alleged threat
to overdose her on morphine."
637
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:23,280
Wow.
638
00:36:26,114 --> 00:36:27,594
Violent to her?
639
00:36:27,923 --> 00:36:29,212
Jesus, God, no!
640
00:36:29,274 --> 00:36:31,790
No, we never saw any evidence
of that.
641
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:35,600
I mean, Em was 11,
I was 9 when they separated.
642
00:36:35,625 --> 00:36:38,040
So we weren't babies.
If there'd been anything like that,
643
00:36:38,066 --> 00:36:39,882
we'd have had some sense of it.
I know we would.
644
00:36:39,953 --> 00:36:41,297
But we just didn't, did we?
645
00:36:41,322 --> 00:36:44,150
Although you, erm, said earlier...
646
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:49,337
..you were both at boarding school
from 7 till 18.
647
00:36:49,965 --> 00:36:52,125
Yeah, but we were home holidays,
lots of weekends.
648
00:36:52,150 --> 00:36:54,560
We saw a lot of our parents.
We know who our father is.
649
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,760
That's not a violent man.
Not to our mother. Not to anyone.
650
00:36:58,385 --> 00:36:59,425
So...
651
00:37:00,628 --> 00:37:02,157
..you think these are fake?
652
00:37:03,890 --> 00:37:06,530
Fake or make-up or whatever.
653
00:37:06,587 --> 00:37:07,747
I don't...
654
00:37:07,822 --> 00:37:09,840
I don't really know or care.
655
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,040
What I do know,
and I very much doubt she told you,
656
00:37:12,136 --> 00:37:14,946
is that she tried to get Dad
to give her 50,000 quid for them.
657
00:37:16,603 --> 00:37:17,665
Right.
658
00:37:17,916 --> 00:37:19,885
Sorry, when was this?
Yesterday.
659
00:37:20,540 --> 00:37:22,923
I mean, he refused, of course.
Right.
660
00:37:22,978 --> 00:37:25,400
Look, our father is not a saint.
661
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,160
He can be controlling
662
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,517
and he certainly likes
to get his own way,
663
00:37:29,572 --> 00:37:32,640
but everything you're implying to
do with the Hayley Reid case is...
664
00:37:32,940 --> 00:37:34,460
It's just not possible.
665
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:37,640
SHE SIGHS
666
00:37:38,128 --> 00:37:39,408
Thank you.
667
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,240
50 grand...!
668
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:45,400
Yeah.
669
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,400
Odd the other sister
hardly said a word.
670
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,560
Yeah, I clocked that.
671
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,520
Bottom line, I suspect Derran Finch
is a bit bonkers, but...
672
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,480
..bonkers people
tell the truth as well.
673
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,920
Sunny, what time's Lowe here?
674
00:38:14,240 --> 00:38:15,520
He should be here now.
675
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:20,760
Oh, no...
676
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:23,520
Shit!
677
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:25,760
Shit! Shit!
678
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:27,280
What?
679
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,480
Obviously,
I went straight back to the cafe,
680
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,080
but they'd had nothing handed in.
681
00:38:31,240 --> 00:38:32,560
I'm so sorry, sir.
682
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,120
So, whose file?
Pete Carr's.
683
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:37,840
Any sensitive stuff inside?
684
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:40,640
Lots.
685
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:44,320
HE DIALS A NUMBER
686
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,320
I feel like I'm slightly losing
the plot. Don't be daft.
687
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,480
My dad, these files...
688
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,760
They'll turn up. It'll be fine.
689
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,000
You're just tired.
It just makes everything seem worse.
690
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,600
Come on, then, let's do Chris Lowe.
Ah...
691
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:33,960
He didn't turn up.
692
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:35,280
Right.
693
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:36,880
Did he call?
No.
694
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,600
Nothing.
I left a message on his mobile,
695
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,240
left it at his work, nothing.
696
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,760
Boss? Have you got two minutes?
Sure, yeah. What's up?
697
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,616
Er, I was doing a bit of a dig on
Hollis, following the e-mails. Yep.
698
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,600
I've found something
I think we've all missed.
699
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:51,840
OK.
700
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:55,320
So the way the fathers
all spoke about the kids,
701
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,040
kind of days out and bedtimes,
702
00:39:57,240 --> 00:39:59,600
I think we just assumed
they were all little ones.
703
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:01,560
And three of the four were.
704
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:05,000
Emma Finch was ten, her sister
was eight and Maya Lowe was six.
705
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,640
But Eliot Hollis, it turns out
he was about to turn 16.
706
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,640
And 16 with some issues.
707
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:12,480
Two arrests already for possession.
708
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,320
One for drunk and disorderly.
709
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,120
And this is a real stinger...
710
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,560
Erm, one for stealing his dad's car
711
00:40:19,720 --> 00:40:21,840
a month before the Millennium.
712
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:23,480
Call the father back in now.
713
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:33,720
PHONE ACTIVATES
714
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,320
PHONE RINGS
715
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,240
Hey, Mark.
716
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:50,720
Where are you?
717
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:52,560
Yeah, erm... on my way in.
718
00:40:52,720 --> 00:40:54,600
Sorry, I was chasing down a...
719
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,200
I've had all your stuff boxed up.
I'll leave it at reception.
720
00:40:58,400 --> 00:40:59,880
Sorry?
721
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,040
You stole from the disabled, never
mind the Hayley Reid connections.
722
00:41:03,240 --> 00:41:04,920
I don't want you
anywhere near my business.
723
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:06,360
Mark, listen to me.
724
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,120
No matter what Maria's told you...
725
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:09,680
Maria hasn't told me anything.
726
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:11,240
Have you not been online?
727
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,080
Online?
728
00:41:13,240 --> 00:41:14,560
No, why?
729
00:41:15,720 --> 00:41:16,920
Google your name.
730
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:18,640
MARK HANGS UP
731
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,760
Jesus, there's one site here
that's found a photo of him.
732
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:41,640
OK, I need to make a statement.
733
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,520
And we need
to shut these websites down fast.
734
00:41:44,720 --> 00:41:46,200
The press
are going to slaughter us.
735
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,080
If you need to take me off the case,
I'll understand completely.
736
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:54,200
For the record, I very much want
to stay and make good my mistake.
737
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,440
I need to find Pete Carr.
738
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,360
I didn't do it, Tim.
I want you to know that.
739
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,240
Pete, you really don't need
to convince me.
740
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:08,880
I've made mistakes.
741
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,240
I've done some pretty shabby things,
I'll accept that.
742
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,120
But I'd never hurt anyone.
743
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,480
I never even saw Hayley Reid
that night.
744
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:17,080
Yeah, I believe you.
745
00:42:17,240 --> 00:42:18,920
Well, the police clearly don't.
746
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,760
And I'm not sure they believe a word
I say now.
747
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:25,080
So I want to tell you something
and I want you to tell the police.
748
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:30,200
OK, but I'm not sure they want to
speak to me again. But if they do...
749
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,080
It's about Jamie's boy Eliot.
750
00:42:33,240 --> 00:42:35,480
About something I saw that night.
751
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,200
Have you tried the arts centre?
752
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,720
Yeah, but they said
that he wouldn't be in today.
753
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,280
Right, well, that's where he told me
he was going. OK.
754
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:14,920
Well, I'll try his mobile again.
755
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:16,360
Is he in trouble?
756
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,200
I can't tell you any more,
I'm afraid.
757
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:22,360
He's a very vulnerable man, DI Khan.
758
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:24,360
Tell me if I should be worried.
759
00:43:26,240 --> 00:43:27,760
You have a son, I think.
760
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:30,200
Er, yes.
761
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:31,440
Asif.
762
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,400
Jamila, is there anywhere
that you and Asif can go and stay
763
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,480
for the next few days
that Christopher doesn't know about?
764
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,240
PRESS CAMERAS CLICK
765
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,600
On behalf
of the Metropolitan Police,
766
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:50,200
I wish to apologise to Mr Carr
and his family
767
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:53,280
and indeed to Hayley Reid's family
768
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:57,680
for any distress
that has been caused by my mistake.
769
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,760
I wish to reiterate
that no arrests have been made.
770
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,320
No-one has been charged
with anything.
771
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,960
And that Mr Carr
is just one of many people
772
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,360
who are helping us
with our enquiries.
773
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,480
I would like to remind people
774
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:17,200
that publication of these documents
online is illegal...
775
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,400
..and we will take action
against anyone who does so.
776
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,240
I would also remind
members of the public
777
00:44:25,275 --> 00:44:29,075
that we will be seeking prosecution
for any online activity
778
00:44:29,197 --> 00:44:32,317
that seeks to incite violence
against Mr Carr.
779
00:44:33,981 --> 00:44:38,181
And lastly, I would urge
whoever found this document
780
00:44:38,260 --> 00:44:40,278
to take it
to their nearest police station
781
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,320
and hand it in as soon as possible.
782
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,200
Thank you.
783
00:44:44,725 --> 00:44:45,800
Peter Carr?
784
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:47,080
Urgh!
785
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,920
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