All language subtitles for The.Sinner.S02E02.720p.AMZN.WEBRip.DDP5.1.x264-NTb (No-HI)

EMTs are calling 'em deceased.

Couple in their 30s

checked in last night
with their son.

- Where is he now?
- Foster home.

Julian, can you tell me
what happened that morning?

What happened to your parents?

They died.

Jimsonweed.

If you drink a tea made from it

it'll kill you.

I gave the tea to them.

Where are all
of Julian's things?

Oh, my God.

What kind of parents
go on a trip

and don't pack a bag
for their kid?

The boy who was taken
into custody,

I need to know
where he's being held.

I'm his mother.

Yo, wait up, wait up!

She doesn't know
that he confessed.

Should I tell her?

I would wait

and let her tell us
what she knows first.

All right.

Sorry to keep you waiting.

Nobody got you anything.

You want a coffee or something?
No, thank you.

When can I see my son?

We can take you to the
foster home right after this.

Foster home?

It's just for now.

It's temporary.

I'm sorry, this is just...

I'm very confused.

What happened to Adam and Bess?

It looks like
they were poisoned.

I don't understand.
By someone?

We thought Adam and Bess
were Julian's parents.

No, they live on my property.

When I need them to they look
after Julian sometimes.

They were taking him
to Niagara Falls

for the weekend.

He and Bess love each other.

What happened exactly?

Did you know they packed no
luggage for Julian?

Yes, they forgot his bag.

Adam and Bess are lovely
but they're...

they're absent-minded.

I called them about it.

We decided that they'd pick up

a few things for
him along the way.

All right, let's take a look.

We'll find something
that fits in here.

This obviously isn't your
current address. Oregon?

No, I'm sorry.
I need to renew that.

No, I live about 20 miles
from here.

Where exactly?

- Off of Route Four.
- By the reservoir?

Near Osborn Road.

I'd like to see him now.

Miss Walker,

has Julian had any

emotional issues
he's had to deal with?

No.
Why would you ask that?

- Anxiety, depression...
- No.

He's a happy child.

Any aggressive behavior?

I think you should tell me
what happened.

We found the bodies like this.

The blankets.

The positions.

There's no reason Julian
would do something like this.

Something happened, an accident.

I don't know.
Something.

He's a 13-year-old boy.

Miss Walker,

he's told us already.

He's confessed it.

Confessed to what?

To poisoning Mr. Lowry
and Ms. McTeer.

He made a tea from a plant.

It's called Jimsonweed

and he said he knew
it was poisonous.

We have corroborating evidence.

Fingerprints, video footage
from the motel.

I want to see him now.

So when she mentioned
where she lived

it threw you off a little bit.

Route Four, Osborn Road.

There's nothing on Osborn Road

except for this one place.

At least 30 other people
live there.

It was a retreat center
that went out of business

in the '90s
and then these people

bought it and tried
to turn it into

some kind of utopian community
or something.

It's called Mosswood Grove.

Shh.
It's okay.

It's okay, baby.

Oh, my beautiful boy, it's okay.

It's okay.

It's okay.

I missed you.
Okay.

It's okay.

Shh.
It's okay. It's okay.

It's okay.

It's okay.

I need you to listen to me.
Okay.

Okay?
Okay.

It's okay, my boy.

And what happened
when you woke up at the motel?

I waited for the sun to rise.

And then

Adam woke up and he took me
to the breakfast bar.

Can you tell me
what you did there?

Yes.

I ate breakfast.

And I went back to the room.

What about the tea you made?

I went back to the room.

Julian, you told
Detective Ambrose

yesterday that you made
two cups of tea

and brought them back
to the room.

Isn't that right?

I don't remember.

Well, you seemed to remember
very clearly yesterday.

That's enough for today.

It's time I took him home.
That's not possible.

Julian's legally
a ward of the state.

What do you mean?

You'll have
to prove guardianship

at the courthouse tomorrow
before you can take him.

You think this
is helping my son?

Keeping him here another night?

If you want to speak
to him again

you do so through me.
Do you understand?

That's not really your call,
Miss Walker...

That's all right.

It's fine.

Thank you very much,
Miss Walker.

And if you have any questions.

Let's give 'em some time.

What was that about?

Well, you and I know

that we don't need
her permission to talk to him

until she proves
her guardianship at court,

but she doesn't need
to know that yet.

Gives us a window
of opportunity.

Remember who you are, all right?

Remember.

I'm gonna get you out of here.

Shh, I love you.

I'll see you tomorrow.

Shh.
Shh.

What are the charges
you're filing?

- Murder in the second degree.
- On what grounds?

As we mentioned,
we have a confession.

A confession you extracted
without a parent present,

which I know for a fact is not
admissible in court.

This entire case is bullshit.

Your son killed two people.

Why do you think Julian would
do something like this?

"He's crazy,"
is that what you're thinking?

Or he's been abused.

Or I pumped him full of Adderall

and fed him junk food
and video games.

Or maybe he's just evil,
is that it?

My son is so far beyond
anything you can understand.

You have no idea.

Are you kidding... Mosswood?

As far we know
that's where he grew up.

Jesus.

Well, it makes sense.
I mean...

Those weirdos would turn out
a kid like that.

We're hoping to get
a search warrant

and take a look
at his living situation.

Why is that necessary?

Chief, young criminals
in most cases,

the crime starts with
the parents

and the mother is not
cooperating.

And then this place,

the whole question
about this commune...

Has he been charged?

No, not yet.

Well, why don't we start
with that?

We have what we need, right?

Yeah, we do.

I still think
that we should go in there.

Detective, I understand
your desire,

but that place is
a hornet's nest.

Last time we went in there it
blew up in my face for nothing.

And why was that?

They want to be left alone,

and frankly so do we.

- That's...
- I'm not going down that road.

- Um...
- Okay.

Thank you, sir.

Every few years
it's something else.

A classmate of Heather's,

she got mixed up with them.

She joined up or converted,

whatever you call it.

And we never heard
from her again.

Really?

And then there was
Kyle Cummings.

Kyle Cummings, a great
high school quarterback

out here at Keller.

And he was seeing
a girl in there

and he wound up in there
one night.

And the next day
he hanged himself.

Everybody was devastated.
Nobody saw it coming.

He just wasn't the type.

Good family, no drugs,
and a great quarterback.

I had scouts
in here every weekend

to see that kid play ball.

Dad, that's not
really the point.

People were convinced
that Mosswood members

had done something to him.

Some local guys beat them up
and then they retaliated.

So it's true?
That kid's from Mosswood?

Jeannie,
we can't really talk about

cases while
they're being investigated.

I wondered when they'd miss me.

This is home base checking in.

I'll be a second.

You okay?

Yeah.

I'm fine.

I don't like
this Mosswood stuff.

I don't want it
opening old wounds.

I'm fine, Dad.

Don't worry.

Why can't I
break up with Caleb?

I mean, I want to, but I can't.

I don't know.

Maybe 'cause you can't stand
being alone.

He just sits around conjuring
me up in his mind all day long.

How am I supposed
to break up with that?

Look.

Welcome to Mosswood Hippieville.

What do you think
they do down there?

Have lots of sex.

Organic sex.

Organic big bush patchouli sex.

Sophie was saying those people

are actually really serious.

Like they do this
deep trance stuff.

And they like hypnotize
you so you don't

even know who you are anymore.

And then you're all like,

"Yes, master.
How may I service you, master."

Oh, God. That's so gross.

Whatever they're doing
down there

I bet it's way more interesting
than anything we do.

- So let's go.
- What do you mean?

Let's sneak on.

Are you serious?

Yeah, I'm dead serious.

Oh, my God.
I love you.

I wanted to hear
about life on the commune.

An average day.

What's that like?

There's really no such thing.

Well, what time do you wake up?

When the sun rises.

Well, there's no sleeping
in for this guy, huh?

No, I sleep mostly inside.

Sometimes I sleep outside
on warm nights.

Hmm.

Aren't you gonna ask me
about my mother?

Isn't that why you're here?

All right.

Um...

Does she cook for you?

Make you breakfast?

Sometimes.

And you get along with her?

Look, I'm just trying to...

See if you can tell me anything
that might help your situation.

That's all.

Outsiders are all the same.

Am I an outsider?

Everyone is...

out here.

What's an outsider?

An outsider...

Promises you things before
they even know you.

Is that something
your mother told you?

My mother can read minds.

She told me all about you.

Did she tell you to change
your story?

I don't want to talk anymore.

Vera Walker, born in east Texas,

1976, moved to Dallas
in the '90s.

Spent two years working for
a company called Interlogica.

What is that?
Is that a tech thing?

I don't know.

Then she shows up in
Ashland, Oregon

working for a non-profit.

Then nothing for
the past 15 years.

- No criminal record?
- Nothing.

Not even a credit card.

Good work.

She's a ghost.

With consideration of custody

for the minor in question,
Julian Walker,

who's present in the court?

Vera Walker, his mother.

Will counsel please put
their appearance on the record.

Matias Lorcas,
attorney for the child.

Thank you.

And you have
the birth certificate?

Thank you.

And proof of residence?
Where is that?

I'm sorry?

I wasn't told to bring
proof of residence.

I need to know
where the child lives,

where he goes to school.

We live at 90 Osborn Road.
He was born there.

He's lived there
his entire life.

Where is the child registered
for school?

He's home schooled.

Well,
then you must be registered

as a home school
in New York State.

So where's that documentation?

I don't see why you need
that when you have

his birth certificate.
No one told me I had to bring...

Because that's what's
required, Ms. Walker.

Once you have the appropriate
documents in order

we'll review the case.

Next docket, 4565.

My son is being held in
a group home.

With people he doesn't know.
He is terrified

and he wants to come home
and I am his mother.

Ms. Walker.

I know where you're from,

and I know what
your son is accused of.

And frankly,
I have more confidence

in foster care right now
than I have in you.

Come back when you're prepared.

Next docket, 4565.

I can't tell you that.

No, that's not what I said.

Listen.
Hold on.

This guy from the paper,
he knows we're pressing charges

on Julian Walker
and he wants confirmation.

He's asking about whether
the kid's from Mosswood.

Shit.

Tell him no comment.

No comment.

It's all I got for you.
No comment.

- Ow. Shit. Mother...
- Oh, my gosh.

Shh!
Shh.

- Ow.
- Shh.

What the hell are they doing?

We are so sorry.
We know we're trespassing.

- We're really sorry.
- It was a mistake.

We'll leave.

Come sit with us.

Mom?

Mom?

You know, I realize that

there's no reason
why you should trust me.

So I thought maybe

instead of me asking
you questions, right...

you could ask me.

Whatever you want.

Then why do you have a beard?

I think I have a weak chin.

And with the beard

it feels more imposing...

So I can get people
to respect me more.

Where are you from?

From here.
Keller.

I grew up here.

But now I live
about four hours east

of here in Dorchester.

So why are you here?

Because...

It matters to me
what happens to you.

Why?

When I was just
a couple years younger

than you...

my mother was unable
to take care of me anymore.

Why?

She...

There was an accident.

Did she die?

No.

But I, I had to go

and live somewhere else.

And it was

a place a lot like this place.

It was a foster home.

Did you have nightmares?

I did.

What about you?

You have those?

Yeah.

What are yours like?

There's this thing.

In my room that...

wears this hood
so I can't see its face.

It's coming for me,

but I can't move.

Like, I try to but I can't.

And it comes up to me

and leans in...

And it...

puts its hand...

Right here.

Inside me.

With kids, traumatic experiences

get turned into
some kind of nightmare.

Because it helps them process

something terrible
that's happened to them.

Like a hooded figure comes
into his room

touches him when he can't move.

So what does it mean?

Psychological or physical...

abuse.

Maybe both.
And this is Danny Spalding.

The registered owner of the car

our victims drove
out of Mosswood.

And he's got a record.
Two counts of grand larceny,

he's on the sex offender list.

He's probably still in Mosswood.

I think the point is
we don't know

who else is in there
and what's going on inside.

If the press breaks this story

you don't wanna be the person
who didn't follow up on a lead.

You think this is worth it?

I think we need to go in, sir.

Tomorrow.

Okay.

I'll call Judge Cervini.

Hey.

What do you say to a fishing
expedition tomorrow morning?

Oh, well.

Actually, tomorrow's not great,

but I'll take a rain check,
sure.

You know,
maybe you should use some

of those vacation days
you called in for

for some actual vacation.

Yeah.
I probably should.

Uh, but...

duty calls, so.
Well...

Let me know.
I'm around.

- Good night.
- Ah, yeah.

Good night.

Okay.

Hello.

So you've been speaking
with my son.

You saw him twice without
his lawyer present

and without informing me.

I was just trying
to get to know him.

Well, you're out of bounds

and I'm filing
a complaint with the judge.

Ms. Walker,
from what I gather

he's had a pretty
unconventional upbringing.

I don't see how being raised

close to nature
and a loving community

is unconventional.

He's a lucky kid then.

I assume you'll try to come here

in a couple of days
to evaluate us.

That's always a possibility.

Whatever it is you think
you'll find here...

I can tell you right now
that you're wrong.

I hope so.

Trust me, detective,

I know where the monster is.

They're probably gonna try
to make things

look as aboveboard as possible.

So we better keep our eyes open.

You okay?

Yeah.

I don't know.

Makes sense to me.

You sacrifice a thing
that's holding you back.

- Stop that.
- What?

- You're staring.
- He is staring at me.

So what?

Marin, that's your mother's.

Well, yeah.

Exactly.
Good riddance.

Keller PD.

This way.

Ms. Walker.

These are all
the current residents

of Mosswood Grove.
We're at your disposal.

This is
a court issued search warrant

giving us the right to search

the living quarters
of Julian Walker,

Adam Lowry, and Bess McTeer.

Is this everybody?

Yes.

Thank you everyone,
please go back to work.

I misunderstood.
You don't just live here.

You're in charge.

We don't resort to hierarchies

like you, Detective
Lieutenant...

Detective Sergeant...

Just police officer.

Follow me.

This whole thing must
be hard on everybody.

Of course, as you can imagine.

Right this way, please.

This is Julian's room?

If you don't mind,
could you both wait

by the door during
the search please?

Thank you.

Who's his roommate?
I am.

No one on the Grove
has a private bedroom.

Where are the other children?

There are no other children.

We focus our energy
into the work.

This Julian's duffel bag
for the trip?

It is.

Please be careful.

Where's Julian's father?

He's not in the picture.

What about Danny Spalding
with the car?

Is he still a resident here?

Yes, why do you ask?

Well, he's an ex-convict.

On the sex offender list.

And he's living with a minor,

so I think that's
a reasonable thing to ask.

Mosswood is
a sanctuary community.

We don't turn anyone away.

Anyone who abides
by our rules can stay

no questions asked.

Mothers are usually concerned
about that kind of thing.

Are you concerned?

Danny's completely

transformed himself
through the work.

Society would cast him aside.

We prefer to help him.

People deserve a second chance.

Will we get to see that area?

What is it by the way?
It's our garden.

You support yourselves
with that?

We grow most of what we need.

My mom, she's, I don't know.

She had me when
she was way too young

and she's just annoyed,

like, my entire existence
is a giant cock block to her.

There's someone
I want you to meet.

You wanna come?

Yeah.
Sure.

Marin, I think we should go.

Just give me a minute.

Marin.

This is where
Bess and Adam slept.

These are their things.

We'll burn anything
you don't want.

I like your necklace.

Thank you.

You know,
Bess was wearing a necklace

almost exactly like that in

the photographs
up at the main house.

You aren't stealing from
the dead are you?

No.

She gave it to me.

When would that have been?

- Before she left.
- Oh.

It's a special gift.

Why would she do
that if she were

only gonna go
for a couple of days?

Detective.

They weren't coming back,
were they?

Jes.

We need to talk.

I think we're done here.

- Vera.
- Hmm?

So we just finished...

- So?
- The guy.

Back at the dorms
with the ponytail.

I saw him at the motel
when we went

to speak to the manager.

So Vera had to know something

before she came into
the station that day.

Bess McTeer, right,

gave away a necklace just
before they took off

and that plus
no luggage for Julian...

I don't think they were
planning on coming back.

- They were escaping.
- Yeah.

Thank you.

This whole trip to
Niagara Falls story is a hoax.

Okay, hey.

Did you find what you were
looking for?

Well, it's never
what you expect I guess.

Just keep walking.

I'm curious about Bess and Adam.

How long had they lived here?

Adam only a few months.

Bess has been here since her
early 20s.

The work completely
transformed her.

I saw it myself.

So when you talk about the work,

what does that mean exactly?

It's easier to experience
than it is to explain.

We all have a shadow.

All the good and bad inside
that we try to hide.

We shine a light on that shadow.

You encounter parts of yourself

you never knew were there.

Not for the faint of heart,
but it's rewarding.

Powerful.

It teaches you how
to trust yourself.