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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,019 --> 00:00:05,703 "Reports are coming in of another shooting 2 00:00:05,738 --> 00:00:09,525 in East London, this time in broad daylight. 3 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:12,483 It comes just days after the drive-by shooting of 19-year-old 4 00:00:12,518 --> 00:00:16,656 Victoria Summers, who remains in a critical condition in hospital." 5 00:00:16,770 --> 00:00:20,950 Sync and corrections by explosiveskull www.addic7ed.com 6 00:00:23,929 --> 00:00:28,450 The victim is 43-year-old Rev Daniel Matthews. He was shot in the arm, 7 00:00:28,485 --> 00:00:30,444 there's quite a lot of blood. He's gone to hospital in the ambulance. 8 00:00:30,479 --> 00:00:33,119 - Rev Matthews? Really? - Yeah. 9 00:00:33,154 --> 00:00:36,119 The guy's a hero around here. The community love this guy. 10 00:00:36,154 --> 00:00:40,399 He's taken all these kids off the street, given them a second chance. 11 00:00:40,434 --> 00:00:43,650 - Someone doesn't love him. - So, what's happening? 12 00:00:43,685 --> 00:00:46,840 I thought it was a gangland. Fuckin' reverend's been shot. 13 00:00:46,890 --> 00:00:48,197 - For real? - Yeah. 14 00:00:48,232 --> 00:00:50,449 Oh, Jesus, that's all I need. 15 00:00:50,484 --> 00:00:54,272 So we've got no CCTV inside and no CCTV on the outside. 16 00:00:54,307 --> 00:00:57,580 That's a deliberate move by the reverend to develop a sense of trust between the boys. 17 00:00:57,615 --> 00:01:00,910 Some of these kids have had brushes with the police at seven or eight. 18 00:01:00,965 --> 00:01:05,402 Yeah. Maybe his "hug a hoodie" approach has bitten him on the arse this time. 19 00:01:05,437 --> 00:01:08,081 - Hey. - One of the guys said that 20 00:01:08,116 --> 00:01:09,457 just before the reverend got shot, 21 00:01:09,492 --> 00:01:12,821 he saw a white female come in and ask the reverend to go outside. 22 00:01:12,856 --> 00:01:15,433 - They say her name's Kelly Pearce. - That's interesting. 23 00:01:15,468 --> 00:01:18,687 Maybe someone else sent her in to pull him outside, you know? 24 00:01:18,765 --> 00:01:21,871 Apparently she's going out with the reverend's son, Aaron. 25 00:01:21,906 --> 00:01:26,229 - I mean if she did, it'd be... - What's the son called? 26 00:01:26,264 --> 00:01:27,910 - Aaron, yeah. - OK. 27 00:01:31,539 --> 00:01:33,266 - Aaron Matthews? - Yeah. 28 00:01:33,301 --> 00:01:35,675 Hi. DC Charlotte Steele. 29 00:01:35,710 --> 00:01:39,264 - I'm one of the officers investigating... - Sorry. 30 00:01:39,299 --> 00:01:41,315 Is my dad going to be OK? How is he? 31 00:01:41,350 --> 00:01:45,239 He's... fine. I just went and spoke to a doctor. 32 00:01:45,274 --> 00:01:47,451 I was told he was hit in the fleshy part of arm, 33 00:01:47,486 --> 00:01:49,721 so there's a lot of blood, but it could've been... 34 00:01:49,756 --> 00:01:53,977 - I'm sorry. - And it could've been much, much worse. 35 00:01:54,012 --> 00:01:58,466 He's in surgery now, they'll patch him up and he should make a pretty swift recovery. 36 00:01:58,501 --> 00:02:02,000 Your girlfriend Kelly was at the boxing club this morning. Why was that? 37 00:02:02,035 --> 00:02:04,004 I drove Kelly there this morning. 38 00:02:04,039 --> 00:02:06,053 She wanted to speak to my dad, I don't know what about. 39 00:02:06,088 --> 00:02:07,198 You'd driven her? 40 00:02:07,233 --> 00:02:09,205 I parked round the back and waited for her to come out. 41 00:02:09,263 --> 00:02:12,062 - She was only gone a couple of minutes. - You didn't go inside? 42 00:02:12,097 --> 00:02:14,741 - No. - OK. 43 00:02:14,776 --> 00:02:20,234 Reverend Daniel Matthews, founder of Kirkley Way Boxing Gym... 44 00:02:20,274 --> 00:02:24,058 where he was shot this morning. This is the alleyway leading off the front door. 45 00:02:24,093 --> 00:02:27,540 Front door where the shooting took place. Timeline wise, 46 00:02:27,575 --> 00:02:31,445 the boxers take a break on the dot every morning at 11:30am. 47 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:32,921 They said just as they broke, 48 00:02:32,956 --> 00:02:36,489 they saw Kelly Pearce arrive to talk to Daniel. 49 00:02:36,524 --> 00:02:39,628 And then local residents said they heard a gunshot at 11:40, 50 00:02:39,663 --> 00:02:42,827 - so we've got a ten-minute cut-off. - Ten-minute window for Kelly Pearce, 51 00:02:42,885 --> 00:02:46,390 if she did it to shoot our reverend. 52 00:02:48,862 --> 00:02:53,062 So Kelly went in, had a chat with your dad about something, you don't know what, 53 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:54,877 - then she came back... - Yeah, she came back 54 00:02:54,912 --> 00:02:57,473 after about five minutes, then we went for a drive. 55 00:02:57,538 --> 00:03:01,258 - Where did you go? - Um, I pulled up by the canal. 56 00:03:01,319 --> 00:03:02,932 - OK. - She was in a bit of a funny mood, 57 00:03:02,967 --> 00:03:06,015 so she said she needed to clear her head. 58 00:03:06,050 --> 00:03:09,690 - So she went for a walk down the canal. - What does "funny mood" mean? 59 00:03:09,762 --> 00:03:12,614 Um... Well, you know, just kind of argumentative. 60 00:03:12,649 --> 00:03:14,589 She gets a bit that way sometimes. 61 00:03:14,624 --> 00:03:17,895 Just a little bit, you know, I don't know, in a funny mood. 62 00:03:17,930 --> 00:03:23,124 - OK. Do you know where she is now? - No, I haven't heard from her since. 63 00:03:25,465 --> 00:03:27,585 Police! Open up. 64 00:03:30,594 --> 00:03:33,762 How are you doing? I'm DS Jack Weston. Who am I talking to? 65 00:03:33,797 --> 00:03:34,650 Alma. 66 00:03:34,685 --> 00:03:36,849 - Alma what? - Alma Pearce. 67 00:03:36,884 --> 00:03:39,741 - Are you Kelly Pearce's mother? - Yes. 68 00:03:39,787 --> 00:03:42,234 - Yes. Is Kelly at home? - I don't think so. 69 00:03:42,269 --> 00:03:46,297 I've got a warrant to search your home. We're looking for a firearm. Step aside. 70 00:03:46,332 --> 00:03:48,263 Anyone else in the house I need to know about? 71 00:03:48,298 --> 00:03:49,503 My son. 72 00:03:49,561 --> 00:03:52,671 Yeah. Sit down. Can I get you a glass of water or anything? 73 00:03:52,706 --> 00:03:56,075 - Are you on any medication? - No, just diazepam. 74 00:03:56,110 --> 00:03:58,053 OK, how many have you taken? Do I need to get you an ambulance? 75 00:03:58,088 --> 00:03:59,079 - No. - Are you sure? 76 00:03:59,114 --> 00:04:00,789 - Yes. - OK. 77 00:04:00,824 --> 00:04:04,515 OK, just have a very quick read of this so you understand what's happening. 78 00:04:06,472 --> 00:04:08,216 - Anything? - Nothing, sir. 79 00:04:08,251 --> 00:04:10,679 - No? - I'll check upstairs. 80 00:04:17,857 --> 00:04:21,497 Hi, Sammy. Sammy, I'm looking for your sister Kelly. 81 00:04:21,841 --> 00:04:23,540 Do you have any idea where she is? 82 00:04:25,208 --> 00:04:27,055 Sammy, can you answer me? 83 00:04:27,484 --> 00:04:29,299 Just say yes or no. 84 00:04:29,523 --> 00:04:31,375 Have you any idea where you sister Kelly is? 85 00:04:31,445 --> 00:04:32,585 No. 86 00:04:37,193 --> 00:04:39,265 Kelly Pearce's flat, clean as a whistle. 87 00:04:39,331 --> 00:04:42,571 SOCOs have found a shell casing from inside the boxing club. 88 00:04:42,649 --> 00:04:45,199 We should be able to figure out, looking at the shell casing, 89 00:04:45,234 --> 00:04:46,824 whether the firearm used to shoot 90 00:04:46,859 --> 00:04:49,346 Rev Daniel Matthews was used in any other crime. 91 00:04:49,381 --> 00:04:51,681 I fed Daniel's address into the computer. 92 00:04:51,716 --> 00:04:55,208 There was a report of a disturbance earlier at the vicarage. 93 00:04:55,243 --> 00:04:58,848 A neighbour rang in and said a young man was kicking the door and shouting, 94 00:04:58,883 --> 00:05:01,072 there was a bit of back and forth between him and the reverend. 95 00:05:01,107 --> 00:05:05,191 She took the car registration... and it is registered to... 96 00:05:06,086 --> 00:05:07,989 - Joseph Brookes. - A local gang member, 97 00:05:08,047 --> 00:05:09,965 a series of drug convictions... 98 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:13,954 and also a main suspect for the Victoria Summers drive-by shooting two days ago. 99 00:05:13,989 --> 00:05:16,088 When we spoke to Rev Matthews last week, 100 00:05:16,130 --> 00:05:19,663 as just someone who was in the vicinity of the drive-by shooting, 101 00:05:19,726 --> 00:05:21,138 he said he didn't see anything, 102 00:05:21,173 --> 00:05:24,102 he didn't know anything about it, now this man, our prime suspect, 103 00:05:24,137 --> 00:05:27,522 turns up banging and shouting outside his door. 104 00:05:27,621 --> 00:05:31,204 Exactly. So, let's deal with something concrete. 105 00:05:31,428 --> 00:05:34,991 Let's pull him in on a Public Order Offence, OK? 106 00:05:36,059 --> 00:05:40,715 So, at 10:30 this morning, Joseph, you were seen banging on the door of 107 00:05:40,750 --> 00:05:44,750 the vicarage where the Rev Matthews lives. Why were you there? 108 00:05:45,464 --> 00:05:47,652 My friend lives there, innit? I was looking for Aaron. 109 00:05:47,708 --> 00:05:51,228 The way I play it, you were having an argument with the reverend. 110 00:05:51,579 --> 00:05:53,559 - Argument? - Yeah. 111 00:05:53,704 --> 00:05:55,064 Pfft, tell me where you got that from? 112 00:05:55,099 --> 00:05:59,265 As far as a domestic disturbance, that's a pretty big barney. 113 00:05:59,300 --> 00:06:01,424 That's... bullshit. 114 00:06:01,474 --> 00:06:04,217 I was there, not for Aaron, he wasn't in, 115 00:06:04,267 --> 00:06:07,507 I had a word with the dad, innit? It's nothing major. 116 00:06:07,550 --> 00:06:10,459 - Do you get on with his dad? - Yeah, his dad's a cool guy. 117 00:06:10,494 --> 00:06:13,380 Come on. He taught me my right hook and everything. 118 00:06:13,555 --> 00:06:17,631 - I've got a good right hook, you know? - Huh, sure you do. 119 00:06:26,937 --> 00:06:29,763 Thank you. Rev Matthews? 120 00:06:29,798 --> 00:06:31,976 - Hello, I'm Martha Bellamy, - Yes. 121 00:06:32,011 --> 00:06:32,768 Detective Inspector. 122 00:06:32,803 --> 00:06:35,652 We met some years ago. Are you all right to shake hands? 123 00:06:35,687 --> 00:06:37,687 - I am. - You're OK with that hand? 124 00:06:37,932 --> 00:06:41,655 - Oh dear, how are feeling? - I'm fine, given the circumstances. 125 00:06:41,768 --> 00:06:44,601 I want to run through a couple of things, if that's OK? 126 00:06:44,690 --> 00:06:47,297 - Aaron, can you just give us a minute? - Sure. 127 00:06:47,379 --> 00:06:48,136 This is your boy? 128 00:06:48,171 --> 00:06:50,629 - Son Aaron. - OK. 129 00:06:52,084 --> 00:06:53,801 Are you gonna talk me through what happened? 130 00:06:53,859 --> 00:06:56,149 Er, yes. 131 00:06:56,345 --> 00:06:58,683 We were training this morning. 132 00:06:58,749 --> 00:07:02,669 It was a normal training session, we broke at around 11:30. 133 00:07:02,809 --> 00:07:08,220 Um, Kelly, one of the younger boxers, came in to speak to me. 134 00:07:08,255 --> 00:07:10,170 - Kelly? Kelly who? - Kelly Pearce. 135 00:07:10,205 --> 00:07:11,493 OK. 136 00:07:11,528 --> 00:07:13,133 She came in to speak to me. 137 00:07:13,168 --> 00:07:17,524 Basically she came to tell me she no longer wanted to train. 138 00:07:17,878 --> 00:07:19,906 She's actually been spending a lot of time with Aaron, 139 00:07:19,941 --> 00:07:24,349 but I told her I was disappointed, she's quite a good prospect, 140 00:07:24,384 --> 00:07:28,551 so we had a conversation. She left. 141 00:07:28,687 --> 00:07:31,508 I stayed outside to have a cigarette before going back in. 142 00:07:31,614 --> 00:07:36,419 And I hear a car coming past, driving faster than normal, 143 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,403 enough to make me turn round. The next thing I know, 144 00:07:39,438 --> 00:07:42,525 I hear a bang... or I felt a bang. 145 00:07:42,979 --> 00:07:46,216 I came round, I was lying on the floor, I'd been shot. 146 00:07:46,672 --> 00:07:51,727 Right. And how long after Kelly left did this happen? 147 00:07:51,865 --> 00:07:53,825 About 15 minutes. 148 00:07:54,705 --> 00:07:57,152 - Might she have shot you? - No. 149 00:07:57,187 --> 00:08:00,773 Not under any circumstances, no. I don't think it was Kelly. 150 00:08:00,831 --> 00:08:02,831 OK. 151 00:08:03,418 --> 00:08:07,354 I believe this morning, cast your mind back, at the vicarage, 152 00:08:07,420 --> 00:08:10,621 I believe that there was a visitor, Joseph Brookes? 153 00:08:10,656 --> 00:08:13,048 It's just that I was led to believe there was a row, 154 00:08:13,083 --> 00:08:15,758 some kind of disturbance was reported? 155 00:08:15,816 --> 00:08:18,986 We did have a conversation, it was about his car. 156 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:22,432 He's got a very noisy car. Some of the neighbours had complained about it. 157 00:08:22,467 --> 00:08:26,361 I just asked him to be mindful when he was driving around the area. 158 00:08:26,459 --> 00:08:30,753 Joseph Brookes is tucked up safe and sound at the station. 159 00:08:30,788 --> 00:08:31,452 Right. 160 00:08:31,487 --> 00:08:33,394 - Do you understand what I'm saying? - Absolutely I do, 161 00:08:33,429 --> 00:08:36,749 but unfortunately there's nothing I can tell you about him. 162 00:08:37,471 --> 00:08:41,271 - How did it go? - Er, well, he was polite but vague. 163 00:08:41,306 --> 00:08:43,455 - Yeah? - He claimed it's a drive-by. 164 00:08:43,490 --> 00:08:44,862 Really? 165 00:08:44,897 --> 00:08:45,836 I just had Forensics on the phone. 166 00:08:45,871 --> 00:08:50,139 They said they can't find any tyre marks anywhere on the road. OK? 167 00:08:50,213 --> 00:08:54,018 Plus the fact that shell casing was found just outside the front door of the club. 168 00:08:54,053 --> 00:08:57,333 It's not as if it was found, like, in the middle of the road. 169 00:08:57,658 --> 00:09:00,603 So it seems maybe the reverend was shot at a much closer range 170 00:09:00,638 --> 00:09:03,121 than he's letting on... or can remember. 171 00:09:03,156 --> 00:09:07,067 Maybe he's memory's gone, or maybe he's lying? 172 00:09:07,102 --> 00:09:10,218 Yeah. He's also somewhat reticent 173 00:09:10,300 --> 00:09:15,098 to talk about the conversation... slash... row that he had with... 174 00:09:15,133 --> 00:09:17,756 Come in. ...with Joseph Brookes, too. 175 00:09:17,791 --> 00:09:20,090 Kelly Pearce has just walked in. She's downstairs. 176 00:09:20,125 --> 00:09:21,794 Oh, I wish they'd all just walk in. 177 00:09:21,868 --> 00:09:26,275 - Right, well, let's show the facilities. - Excellent. 178 00:09:26,467 --> 00:09:31,904 Kelly, why did you go and visit the reverend 179 00:09:32,906 --> 00:09:35,386 - only this morning? - I was angry at him. 180 00:09:35,467 --> 00:09:38,488 A straightforward question. Did you shoot Reverend Matthews? 181 00:09:38,523 --> 00:09:39,836 What? 182 00:09:40,234 --> 00:09:42,190 Did you shoot the reverend? 183 00:09:42,263 --> 00:09:47,121 I've come here to make a statement about him, to put him in prison. 184 00:09:47,236 --> 00:09:49,202 He raped my brother. 185 00:09:49,572 --> 00:09:52,014 - That's a very serious allegation, Kelly. - Yes. 186 00:09:52,049 --> 00:09:54,049 My brother wouldn't lie. 187 00:09:58,453 --> 00:10:02,617 That's quite an allegation. And if it's true, it is certainly a motive 188 00:10:02,652 --> 00:10:05,401 for someone like Kelly to shoot the reverend. 189 00:10:05,467 --> 00:10:08,428 Yeah, but if Aaron and Kelly's statement are to be believed, 190 00:10:08,486 --> 00:10:10,141 then Kelly has an alibi, 191 00:10:10,176 --> 00:10:11,973 - right, at the time of the shooting? - Yeah. 192 00:10:12,023 --> 00:10:15,888 Belt and braces, you update Jack and get onto the Child Protection team. 193 00:10:15,923 --> 00:10:19,524 I want that kid to have a full exam. OK? 194 00:10:20,197 --> 00:10:23,193 And what did the reverend say in response to the allegation? 195 00:10:23,267 --> 00:10:24,893 What do you think he fucking said? 196 00:10:24,990 --> 00:10:27,190 I've no idea. 197 00:10:27,232 --> 00:10:29,461 "No, I didn't do it. What are you talking about?" 198 00:10:29,527 --> 00:10:32,354 It was the usual thing that people respond to 199 00:10:32,420 --> 00:10:37,580 - when they're being accused of something. - Tell me exactly what you said to him. 200 00:10:37,615 --> 00:10:40,122 I was really angry at him. I started shouting, 201 00:10:40,157 --> 00:10:42,180 and I said to him that I know what you did 202 00:10:42,215 --> 00:10:46,510 - and I'm gonna tell the police. - And so who told you... 203 00:10:47,383 --> 00:10:52,067 - ...about Sammy... about Sammy's abuse? - Aaron. 204 00:10:52,102 --> 00:10:56,160 Aaron told me what Sammy said. I found him at home 205 00:10:56,545 --> 00:10:58,311 trying to take some of my mum's drugs. 206 00:10:58,377 --> 00:11:01,592 This is behaviour that's unlike him. He wouldn't do things like that. 207 00:11:01,658 --> 00:11:05,307 I was asking him what he was doing. He was trying to kill himself. 208 00:11:05,946 --> 00:11:09,053 So obviously something's definitely wrong. 209 00:11:09,115 --> 00:11:11,455 - And what... - And then I ask him, 210 00:11:11,490 --> 00:11:13,888 and he doesn't respond. He doesn't tell me anything, 211 00:11:13,946 --> 00:11:18,007 and I thought the only way I can get any information out of him is through Aaron. 212 00:11:18,042 --> 00:11:20,431 They're really good friends, he's like a brother for him. 213 00:11:20,505 --> 00:11:24,084 His behaviour since he came back from his trip 214 00:11:24,307 --> 00:11:27,681 - has just changed who he is. - Back from which trip? 215 00:11:27,764 --> 00:11:30,551 They went on a trip, like the boxing team, 216 00:11:30,586 --> 00:11:36,543 the Rev Daniel took them. It happened that night in his tent. 217 00:11:37,304 --> 00:11:40,736 It's Child Protection just through with the report. 218 00:11:40,848 --> 00:11:42,219 Poor Samuel's not saying anything, 219 00:11:42,261 --> 00:11:44,840 but the initial examination suggested he's been raped. 220 00:11:44,914 --> 00:11:46,653 Child Protection are asking whether we can figure out 221 00:11:46,688 --> 00:11:49,696 what Samuel was actually wearing last night. 222 00:11:50,022 --> 00:11:53,006 - OK. - OK, I'll get onto the search team. 223 00:11:59,139 --> 00:12:00,914 I do need to go over a few other details 224 00:12:00,949 --> 00:12:03,884 concerning the shooting this morning. 225 00:12:03,919 --> 00:12:06,967 Um, Kelly, how did you get to the club? 226 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:10,417 - Aaron drove me in his car. - And Aaron knew why you were going, 227 00:12:10,452 --> 00:12:13,652 - what you were gonna talk about? - Of course he knew, yeah. 228 00:12:14,506 --> 00:12:17,477 - And then you went off on your own? - Yeah. 229 00:12:17,512 --> 00:12:19,848 Aaron dropped me. He, I don't know, 230 00:12:19,883 --> 00:12:21,375 went to his mate's house or something. 231 00:12:21,410 --> 00:12:23,834 Probably drove off somewhere. 232 00:12:23,869 --> 00:12:29,342 - Right. A mate like Joseph Brookes? - Hmph. Possibly. 233 00:12:29,482 --> 00:12:31,968 Is he a friend of Aaron and yours? 234 00:12:32,050 --> 00:12:34,448 He's a friend of Aaron's, not a friend of mine. 235 00:12:34,483 --> 00:12:37,911 Aaron worships the ground he walks on. 236 00:12:37,946 --> 00:12:40,002 He's so obsessed with him. 237 00:12:40,300 --> 00:12:44,331 - What do you think of him? - He's a dick, that's what I think of him. 238 00:12:44,589 --> 00:12:47,831 What were you doing between 11 and 12:30 today? 239 00:12:48,028 --> 00:12:50,028 Well, 240 00:12:50,218 --> 00:12:56,816 my girlfriend Libby bent over the side of the bed at about 11:15. 241 00:12:56,949 --> 00:13:02,137 So if I call her and ask her, she'll tell me exactly the same thing? 242 00:13:02,221 --> 00:13:04,151 What was that, sorry? "Bent over the side of..." 243 00:13:04,201 --> 00:13:06,232 - She will say exactly the same thing? - Exactly the same thing. 244 00:13:06,267 --> 00:13:07,376 Right. 245 00:13:08,437 --> 00:13:10,686 Good. Thank you. 246 00:13:17,590 --> 00:13:20,372 Thanks. Cheers. Bye-bye. 247 00:13:20,407 --> 00:13:23,905 OK, Uniform has searched Joseph Brookes' car and his house. 248 00:13:23,940 --> 00:13:25,841 - They've seen nothing. - Obviously. 249 00:13:25,876 --> 00:13:28,139 They're not stupid enough to leave a gun lying around. 250 00:13:28,197 --> 00:13:30,610 I spoke to his girlfriend, Libby James, who, 251 00:13:30,645 --> 00:13:33,304 surprise, surprise, corroborates his alibi. 252 00:13:33,339 --> 00:13:35,468 He was with her when the shooting took place. 253 00:13:35,503 --> 00:13:38,172 - Hmph. - Which is bullshit. 254 00:13:38,207 --> 00:13:41,428 He used the same alibi for the Victoria Summers drive-by shooting. 255 00:13:41,463 --> 00:13:44,143 There is no sign of the firearm at Libby's place. 256 00:13:49,198 --> 00:13:51,472 Aaron. Do you mind if we come in? 257 00:13:53,672 --> 00:13:56,429 Your girlfriend Kelly has made a very, very serious allegation 258 00:13:56,471 --> 00:13:59,206 of sexual abuse against your father. 259 00:13:59,312 --> 00:14:00,539 So it's Kelly who's said all this? 260 00:14:00,574 --> 00:14:04,998 - She said Sammy told you about it. - Kelly said my father abused Sammy? 261 00:14:08,294 --> 00:14:09,816 This makes a lot more sense now. 262 00:14:09,882 --> 00:14:11,731 - Does it? - Yeah. 263 00:14:11,793 --> 00:14:15,964 Yeah, Kelly doesn't really behave in a normal way. 264 00:14:16,098 --> 00:14:18,599 She's, um... She's... 265 00:14:18,634 --> 00:14:21,934 She finds life difficult, to put it bluntly, you know? 266 00:14:21,984 --> 00:14:25,533 She's come from a dysfunctional family, she's really struggled. 267 00:14:25,577 --> 00:14:27,627 She's never been this bad before. 268 00:14:27,662 --> 00:14:28,939 She's never said anything quite like this, 269 00:14:28,974 --> 00:14:32,204 but she's desperate to get at me, that's what it is. 270 00:14:32,239 --> 00:14:33,774 Why's that? 271 00:14:33,977 --> 00:14:35,577 We broke up this morning. 272 00:14:35,678 --> 00:14:39,003 That's the only reason I can think she'd wanna really hurt me. 273 00:14:39,068 --> 00:14:43,121 It is the best thing she can think of. Blame his reverend dad 274 00:14:43,171 --> 00:14:46,951 - for being a paedophile, you know? - Did you speak to Sammy this morning? 275 00:14:46,993 --> 00:14:50,373 Yeah, I spoke to Sammy this morning. We didn't really say much. 276 00:14:50,408 --> 00:14:52,659 OK, listen, Sammy's been seen by the doctors. 277 00:14:52,694 --> 00:14:55,956 They're convinced he was sexually abused. But they think the abuse 278 00:14:55,991 --> 00:14:57,404 happened on a camping trip 279 00:14:57,454 --> 00:15:00,597 - that Sammy was on with your dad. - Yeah, well, 280 00:15:00,777 --> 00:15:03,251 that explains the ludicrously of Kelly's story. 281 00:15:03,286 --> 00:15:06,255 I was with him the whole weekend. I know for a fact my dad, the first night, 282 00:15:06,290 --> 00:15:10,689 was looking after a really sick kid. Dad went to the hospital with him. 283 00:15:10,881 --> 00:15:14,177 And I think the kid's parents met him there. 284 00:15:14,418 --> 00:15:17,355 They were there the whole night. There was obviously a big queue. 285 00:15:17,468 --> 00:15:19,785 Where did everyone sleep? Did all the boys sleep together 286 00:15:19,820 --> 00:15:21,023 or were they in twos in tents? 287 00:15:21,058 --> 00:15:25,329 The boys all sleep in a dorm together and I slept with my dad in a tent. 288 00:15:25,418 --> 00:15:28,932 So I was with my dad the whole time, the whole weekend. 289 00:15:28,989 --> 00:15:30,523 Except when he was at the hospital, of course. 290 00:15:30,558 --> 00:15:31,718 Aaron, that's great. 291 00:15:31,777 --> 00:15:34,715 - Sorry we had to drop that on you. - I understand. 292 00:15:34,755 --> 00:15:38,020 Aaron has given us a statement, and it's nothing like yours. 293 00:15:38,055 --> 00:15:41,152 - What? - I mean it's different. 294 00:15:41,187 --> 00:15:43,627 - He knows nothing about the allegations. - What? 295 00:15:43,662 --> 00:15:48,060 - Against his father? - Fuckin' right. 296 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:50,560 Ohh, my God. 297 00:15:50,772 --> 00:15:54,487 So we'll say again, Kelly, now is the time, if you want... 298 00:15:54,522 --> 00:15:55,367 He's the liar. 299 00:15:55,402 --> 00:15:58,842 No, I'm not reconsidering. I'm not doing any of that. 300 00:15:58,884 --> 00:16:03,586 I'm not reconsidering my story. My story sticks and I'm telling the truth. 301 00:16:04,023 --> 00:16:06,933 - He's lying. - Why would he do that? 302 00:16:06,968 --> 00:16:10,598 He doesn't want his dad's reputation in the community to be destroyed over this, 303 00:16:10,633 --> 00:16:14,190 so that's why he would lie. Fuckin' do the maths yourself. 304 00:16:17,036 --> 00:16:21,581 So we've got Sammy's clothes, they were found in the bins outside their flat. 305 00:16:21,616 --> 00:16:24,405 But they're really, yeah, really badly burned. 306 00:16:24,460 --> 00:16:27,193 That and a couple more pieces are pretty much all that's left. 307 00:16:27,228 --> 00:16:29,754 I've sent that off to Forensics. 308 00:16:29,789 --> 00:16:31,840 Look. They're hardly gonna get anything from that. 309 00:16:31,906 --> 00:16:34,174 Why's he burning his clothes? 310 00:16:34,355 --> 00:16:36,317 Boss, clothes found. Sent off to Forensics. 311 00:16:36,352 --> 00:16:39,978 Also, Child Protection have said that, independently of each other, 312 00:16:40,028 --> 00:16:43,836 Sammy and Alma have both confirmed that at the time of the shooting 313 00:16:43,871 --> 00:16:46,914 of the reverend, they were at home together. 314 00:16:47,047 --> 00:16:48,103 All right. 315 00:16:48,206 --> 00:16:49,458 I want you guys to go down to the hospital, 316 00:16:49,493 --> 00:16:52,155 talk to the reverend about why he's insisting 317 00:16:52,190 --> 00:16:56,920 that this is a drive-by when clearly it isn't. OK? 318 00:16:56,955 --> 00:16:57,758 All right. 319 00:16:57,793 --> 00:17:01,103 Do you want us to say anything about the abuse? 320 00:17:01,949 --> 00:17:06,207 You know what? Nothing direct, Jack. Leave it with Child Protection 321 00:17:06,242 --> 00:17:08,218 for the time being. They're talking to Sammy. 322 00:17:08,299 --> 00:17:10,429 Listen, we were just wondering if we could ask you some questions? 323 00:17:10,464 --> 00:17:12,727 Have you been able to remember anything? 324 00:17:12,762 --> 00:17:16,780 Any more details about the shooting, before and after? 325 00:17:16,854 --> 00:17:20,055 Nothing more than I've already told your colleague. 326 00:17:20,090 --> 00:17:21,409 OK. 327 00:17:21,595 --> 00:17:24,605 - You said it was a drive-by shooting? - That's right. 328 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:27,738 Do you remember any details about the car, what colour it was? 329 00:17:27,798 --> 00:17:31,071 Er... Blue, I think. Possibly. Maybe green? 330 00:17:31,106 --> 00:17:33,378 I don't know, I don't know. 331 00:17:34,365 --> 00:17:36,688 We'd love to have a look at your mobile phone if we could, 332 00:17:36,723 --> 00:17:39,099 just to kind of trace previous calls? 333 00:17:39,196 --> 00:17:43,181 Sorry, that's not really... Sorry. 334 00:17:43,269 --> 00:17:45,108 - No? - No. 335 00:17:45,154 --> 00:17:47,514 - No, you can't. - Why not? 336 00:17:47,569 --> 00:17:51,059 Because I don't want you to. I'm very tired, 337 00:17:51,094 --> 00:17:54,966 I think I would like to be left alone, if that's OK? 338 00:17:55,061 --> 00:17:56,336 OK. 339 00:18:02,047 --> 00:18:03,759 Would you run me through just, sort of, 340 00:18:03,794 --> 00:18:06,912 who said what to who this morning? 341 00:18:07,173 --> 00:18:08,856 Um... 342 00:18:09,247 --> 00:18:14,392 Kelly... Kelly woke up and told me what Sammy had said. 343 00:18:15,178 --> 00:18:18,697 - And did you go and speak to Sammy? - I tried to, but... 344 00:18:18,732 --> 00:18:21,232 he was in state, he wouldn't talk to me. 345 00:18:21,267 --> 00:18:25,999 So between then and when my colleagues came round, 346 00:18:26,034 --> 00:18:28,782 um, what did you do? 347 00:18:29,037 --> 00:18:32,063 Um... I stayed in the flat with Sammy. 348 00:18:32,098 --> 00:18:35,315 Did you try to talk to him some more, did you call anyone, 349 00:18:35,350 --> 00:18:39,722 - or try and take him somewhere? - Er... No, I was upset, 350 00:18:39,757 --> 00:18:42,942 so I just took some sleeping pills. 351 00:18:43,668 --> 00:18:48,537 I tried to talk to him again but... he wouldn't talk to me. 352 00:18:48,638 --> 00:18:54,110 Alma, do you think Reverend Matthews is responsible for Sammy's abuse? 353 00:18:55,189 --> 00:18:56,729 I don't know him really well, 354 00:18:56,764 --> 00:19:01,907 but he did insist that Sammy go on a camping trip with him. 355 00:19:02,163 --> 00:19:06,272 And when I said I can't afford it, he said he's gonna pay for it 356 00:19:06,307 --> 00:19:09,561 from the boxing club subs. 357 00:19:10,475 --> 00:19:11,915 OK. 358 00:19:12,112 --> 00:19:14,515 He said he was gonna look after him. 359 00:19:14,971 --> 00:19:17,003 - Jack. - Yeah? 360 00:19:17,263 --> 00:19:19,631 Given what Alma said about the camping trip, 361 00:19:19,666 --> 00:19:22,655 I asked FIU to run off the reverend's financials. 362 00:19:22,690 --> 00:19:26,265 And he didn't pay for Sammy Pearce's place out of the boxing subs, 363 00:19:26,315 --> 00:19:28,223 he paid for it out of his own account. 364 00:19:28,319 --> 00:19:33,940 So either he's a very nice man, or he really wanted Sammy to be there 365 00:19:33,975 --> 00:19:36,797 so he could... 366 00:19:36,832 --> 00:19:38,909 Yeah, it's OK, you don't have to finish that sentence. 367 00:19:41,045 --> 00:19:43,234 The reverend's been discharged from hospital. 368 00:19:43,269 --> 00:19:44,332 So what do we do now? 369 00:19:44,367 --> 00:19:45,519 We're gonna play it by the book, I don't wanna 370 00:19:45,554 --> 00:19:48,437 go too soon on the sexual abuse allegation. 371 00:19:48,510 --> 00:19:51,415 - So let's get him in for a chat, OK? - Yep. 372 00:19:55,353 --> 00:19:58,147 It's often helpful for me to go a little bit further back. 373 00:19:58,189 --> 00:19:59,172 Right. 374 00:19:59,207 --> 00:20:02,444 So I'm kinda thinking maybe kind of around the weekend. 375 00:20:02,478 --> 00:20:04,106 - Mm-hm. - We know you were on 376 00:20:04,141 --> 00:20:05,548 - some sort of camping trip. - Yes. 377 00:20:05,587 --> 00:20:08,536 - Yes, it's an annual... - A group of schoolchildren? 378 00:20:08,571 --> 00:20:10,641 Yeah, a young group, yes, yes. 379 00:20:10,676 --> 00:20:13,513 - Ages, roughly? - Er... Eight to 15. 380 00:20:13,548 --> 00:20:16,191 - Yeah, it's an annual camp trip. - OK. 381 00:20:16,279 --> 00:20:17,950 - Did anything happen on the camping trip? - No. 382 00:20:17,985 --> 00:20:21,038 That was slightly out of ordinary, slightly untoward? 383 00:20:21,073 --> 00:20:22,091 Nothing untoward. 384 00:20:22,126 --> 00:20:23,831 A boy was taken ill. 385 00:20:24,444 --> 00:20:27,889 I spent most of the first night with him. In the morning 386 00:20:27,924 --> 00:20:31,684 he'd made no improvement so we decided to take him to hospital. 387 00:20:31,794 --> 00:20:36,129 And they admitted him... and I spent the following day there with him, 388 00:20:36,164 --> 00:20:38,313 waiting for his parents to come. 389 00:20:38,391 --> 00:20:40,797 And when they did I came back to the camp. 390 00:20:41,403 --> 00:20:44,673 - You came back to the campsite? - Yes. Yes, early morning. 391 00:20:44,708 --> 00:20:46,525 Kind of two, one o'clock. 392 00:20:46,567 --> 00:20:49,002 - You didn't stay the night? - No, I went back to the camp. 393 00:20:49,037 --> 00:20:50,955 OK, because we spoke to Aaron, your son... 394 00:20:50,990 --> 00:20:51,644 Right. 395 00:20:51,679 --> 00:20:54,879 And he said that you did stay out all night at the hospital. 396 00:20:56,281 --> 00:21:00,519 No. No, no, as I say, it was between one and two, but closer to one. 397 00:21:00,633 --> 00:21:04,308 - I came back, Aaron was asleep. - OK. Great. 398 00:21:04,343 --> 00:21:06,652 - Do you mind if I go for a very quick wee? - No, no. 399 00:21:06,687 --> 00:21:08,555 I'll be two seconds. 400 00:21:15,075 --> 00:21:17,681 He's saying, on the night of the assault, he left the hospital, 401 00:21:17,716 --> 00:21:20,488 got back to the campsite around one, spent the night there. 402 00:21:20,523 --> 00:21:23,632 Aaron is saying his dad didn't go back to the campsite, 403 00:21:23,667 --> 00:21:24,739 spent the night at the hospital. 404 00:21:24,774 --> 00:21:28,394 I can't track down the sick child's parents to figure out who's lying. 405 00:21:28,467 --> 00:21:29,465 I spoke to Aaron. 406 00:21:29,538 --> 00:21:32,248 I've just been down to TIU. They've been over Kelly's phone, 407 00:21:32,329 --> 00:21:35,753 and Aaron left her a voicemail this morning. 408 00:21:35,821 --> 00:21:36,739 Oh, yeah? 409 00:21:36,774 --> 00:21:38,696 "Kelly, it's me. Please, please 410 00:21:38,731 --> 00:21:40,427 don't speak to the police before you speak to me. 411 00:21:40,501 --> 00:21:45,593 It's really important you speak to me first. All right, I love you. Bye." 412 00:21:45,628 --> 00:21:48,551 That does not sound like someone who's broken up with their girlfriend. 413 00:21:48,586 --> 00:21:53,358 He's covering up for his dad. OK, gloves off. Green light. Go for it, Jack. 414 00:21:54,331 --> 00:21:57,152 Daniel, a very serious allegation has been made against you. 415 00:21:57,186 --> 00:21:58,447 Right. 416 00:21:59,153 --> 00:22:03,365 OK, the allegation is that you sexually abused, 417 00:22:03,458 --> 00:22:05,054 you raped 418 00:22:05,130 --> 00:22:06,974 a 12-year-old boy on the camping trip last week. 419 00:22:07,009 --> 00:22:09,009 That's nonsense. 420 00:22:10,397 --> 00:22:13,375 - Is it? - Yes, it's nonsense. 421 00:22:15,039 --> 00:22:18,978 Nevertheless, the allegation has been made. I need to fully investigate the allegation. 422 00:22:19,013 --> 00:22:21,646 I am not satisfied with what you've told me, therefore 423 00:22:21,681 --> 00:22:24,243 - I'm arresting you for the rape... - This is nonsense. 424 00:22:24,293 --> 00:22:26,506 You do not have to say anything, but it may harm your defence 425 00:22:26,572 --> 00:22:28,216 if you fail to mention something 426 00:22:28,251 --> 00:22:31,366 you later rely on in court. Anything you do say may be used in evidence. 427 00:22:31,455 --> 00:22:33,455 Do you understand? 428 00:22:34,406 --> 00:22:38,284 - Daniel, do you understand? - Yes. 429 00:22:40,731 --> 00:22:45,094 The report is back. The gun used to shoot Rev Matthews is the same gun that was used 430 00:22:45,144 --> 00:22:48,167 in the Victoria Summers drive-by shooting. 431 00:22:48,202 --> 00:22:49,727 I'll see you upstairs in two seconds. Great. 432 00:22:49,762 --> 00:22:50,944 OK. 433 00:22:51,713 --> 00:22:55,332 I have been looking through Aaron's call data. 434 00:22:55,852 --> 00:22:59,716 Now, in the week since Victoria Summer's drive-by shooting 435 00:22:59,766 --> 00:23:03,590 there have been loads of calls from Joseph Brookes to Aaron, 436 00:23:03,657 --> 00:23:06,760 although most of the ones in the last two days have been rejected. 437 00:23:06,834 --> 00:23:10,714 I also had another look over Miss Summer's witness statement. The car she described 438 00:23:10,771 --> 00:23:14,452 as the one that was used in the shooting matches Aaron Matthews' car. 439 00:23:14,510 --> 00:23:15,822 OK, it's Aaron's car. 440 00:23:15,895 --> 00:23:18,706 Let's arrest him. I'm gonna push Joseph. 441 00:23:18,741 --> 00:23:20,781 - OK. Can you drive? - Yep. 442 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,200 Don't waste my time, young man. 443 00:23:24,297 --> 00:23:27,655 Why have you been calling your mate Aaron? 444 00:23:29,153 --> 00:23:30,953 No comment. 445 00:23:32,561 --> 00:23:36,208 You've been calling him a lot, haven't you? 446 00:23:36,718 --> 00:23:39,566 I don't call my best friend as much as that. 447 00:23:40,140 --> 00:23:43,719 You must have something you really want to talk about. 448 00:23:44,025 --> 00:23:46,301 No... comment. 449 00:23:46,351 --> 00:23:50,059 Is that what you wanted to tell him, that you've got no comment? 450 00:23:51,714 --> 00:23:54,220 There he is, that's Aaron. OK, move over, move over. 451 00:23:54,255 --> 00:23:56,495 OK. Stop the car. 452 00:23:56,561 --> 00:23:57,816 OK, all right. 453 00:23:57,851 --> 00:23:59,677 Aaron, stay where you are. 454 00:23:59,743 --> 00:24:01,002 - Aaron? - Oh, fuck. 455 00:24:01,078 --> 00:24:02,308 OK. 456 00:24:08,834 --> 00:24:11,450 OK. Aaron Matthews, I'm arresting you 457 00:24:11,485 --> 00:24:14,624 on suspicion of the attempted murder of Victoria Summers. 458 00:24:16,049 --> 00:24:18,305 You do not have to say anything, but it may harm your defence 459 00:24:18,340 --> 00:24:21,087 if you fail to mention the questions that may later arise in court. 460 00:24:21,122 --> 00:24:24,482 Anything you do say may be used in evidence. Do you understand? 461 00:24:24,517 --> 00:24:25,764 Do you understand? 462 00:24:25,837 --> 00:24:27,018 Yeah. 463 00:24:27,177 --> 00:24:28,453 OK. 464 00:24:31,393 --> 00:24:32,513 Ohh. 465 00:24:32,905 --> 00:24:35,284 Aaron and Joseph's fingerprints are all over the car, 466 00:24:35,319 --> 00:24:36,831 but we've also got firearm residue 467 00:24:36,866 --> 00:24:39,271 over the front, particularly in the driver's side. 468 00:24:39,306 --> 00:24:41,729 Good. That's concrete. That links this car 469 00:24:41,795 --> 00:24:43,503 to the drive-by shooting a week ago. 470 00:24:43,538 --> 00:24:46,418 Yes. Joseph Brookes was travelling in the passenger side, 471 00:24:46,453 --> 00:24:50,013 we've got his fingerprints on the handle, dashboard and this side. 472 00:24:50,662 --> 00:24:55,493 So then it's probably safe to say that Aaron, driving, is the shooter. 473 00:24:57,768 --> 00:25:00,008 This is where you stand. 474 00:25:00,081 --> 00:25:03,641 We know that your car was involved in the drive-by shooting 475 00:25:03,691 --> 00:25:06,553 that seriously wounded Victoria Summers. 476 00:25:07,690 --> 00:25:10,017 We know that whoever was driving 477 00:25:10,052 --> 00:25:11,963 - pulled the trigger. - I didn't... 478 00:25:11,998 --> 00:25:14,311 There's gunshot residue all over the driver's side. 479 00:25:14,346 --> 00:25:15,033 I didn't pull the trigger. 480 00:25:15,068 --> 00:25:16,329 How do you explain... 481 00:25:16,364 --> 00:25:17,822 - It was Joseph. - Sorry? 482 00:25:17,857 --> 00:25:19,233 He was in the passenger seat. 483 00:25:19,268 --> 00:25:20,837 We went for a drive and he leaned across me. 484 00:25:20,872 --> 00:25:21,430 Across you? 485 00:25:21,465 --> 00:25:24,551 He leaned across me and shot her. Look, I had no idea 486 00:25:24,586 --> 00:25:28,081 he was gonna do what he did. I'd never have gone for a drive with him 487 00:25:28,116 --> 00:25:30,122 if he was gonna do that. 488 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:31,779 What's the story with you and Joseph? 489 00:25:31,814 --> 00:25:34,822 I just wanted to be a part of his gang, that was all. 490 00:25:34,954 --> 00:25:37,240 I was trying to impress him, I don't know. 491 00:25:37,322 --> 00:25:39,196 What happened when Joseph came round your house this morning? 492 00:25:39,231 --> 00:25:41,584 He came round to threaten Dad. 493 00:25:41,681 --> 00:25:43,897 Dad saw us in the car on the day of the shooting. 494 00:25:43,932 --> 00:25:46,416 Dad knew what had happened. 495 00:25:46,498 --> 00:25:51,356 My dad confronted me about it and he said, "If you don't go to the police, I will." 496 00:25:51,430 --> 00:25:54,317 I told Joseph and he went round to threaten my dad. 497 00:25:54,352 --> 00:25:57,176 If he said anything, he said he'd kill him. 498 00:25:57,303 --> 00:25:59,951 Did Joseph Brookes shoot your father this morning? 499 00:26:00,044 --> 00:26:01,804 It's possible, yeah. 500 00:26:04,894 --> 00:26:09,096 It'd like to make it clear, at this point, that I'm not here to discuss 501 00:26:09,131 --> 00:26:12,848 the case and the allegations concerning Samuel Pearce. 502 00:26:12,882 --> 00:26:14,128 Right. 503 00:26:16,222 --> 00:26:21,813 I do, however, know that your son was driving the car 504 00:26:22,388 --> 00:26:26,481 during the shooting incident last week with Victoria Summers. 505 00:26:27,594 --> 00:26:29,594 Yes, yes, he was. 506 00:26:30,249 --> 00:26:34,127 - You were aware of that? - I was aware of it, yes. 507 00:26:34,686 --> 00:26:39,913 Um... He... He was dragged into the situation, he drove the car, 508 00:26:39,948 --> 00:26:41,908 I believe unwittingly, 509 00:26:41,985 --> 00:26:45,139 he didn't shoot anybody, he just drove the car. 510 00:26:46,048 --> 00:26:48,048 Who did fire the gun? 511 00:26:49,152 --> 00:26:51,152 Joseph Brookes. 512 00:26:52,184 --> 00:26:58,105 I had hoped that Aaron was going to... own up 513 00:26:58,175 --> 00:27:01,212 to his involvement in the situation. 514 00:27:01,247 --> 00:27:04,056 - Is that why you didn't tell the police? - Yes. 515 00:27:05,208 --> 00:27:07,048 Yes. 516 00:27:07,127 --> 00:27:10,807 Are you willing to make a statement to that effect, Reverend? 517 00:27:10,847 --> 00:27:12,340 Yes. 518 00:27:14,396 --> 00:27:16,011 OK. 519 00:27:17,422 --> 00:27:19,924 Well, it begs the question, 520 00:27:20,023 --> 00:27:22,854 was Joseph Brookes the person that shot you, Reverend? 521 00:27:22,919 --> 00:27:24,283 No. 522 00:27:26,995 --> 00:27:31,856 You seemed so sure that you hadn't seen the face of your attacker, 523 00:27:31,891 --> 00:27:36,720 and yet you just seemed so sure that it wasn't Joseph Brookes. 524 00:27:36,872 --> 00:27:38,872 Who are you covering for? 525 00:27:41,619 --> 00:27:45,787 - What happened to the gun? - I took it round to Kelly's mum's flat. 526 00:27:45,822 --> 00:27:49,501 Kelly's mum let me hide it there in return for diazepam tablets. 527 00:27:49,651 --> 00:27:50,911 So you're a drug dealer now? 528 00:27:50,946 --> 00:27:54,898 No. My dad used to have some for his bad back. I just took those. 529 00:27:55,016 --> 00:27:57,011 How did Kelly feel about you keeping a gun at the flat? 530 00:27:57,046 --> 00:28:00,301 - She doesn't know. She has no idea. - OK. 531 00:28:00,392 --> 00:28:02,772 - Where's the gun now? - Still there, in the airing cupboard. 532 00:28:02,807 --> 00:28:05,067 Don't fuckin' lie to me. 533 00:28:05,102 --> 00:28:05,739 - Don't waste my time. - It's there. 534 00:28:05,774 --> 00:28:09,146 I'm trying to figure out who shot your dad. Where's the gun? 535 00:28:09,181 --> 00:28:10,696 I put it in the airing cupboard, I haven't touched it. 536 00:28:10,731 --> 00:28:14,374 I searched that place myself. OK? 537 00:28:14,424 --> 00:28:17,808 There's no gun in there, OK? I'll tell you why there's no gun in there. 538 00:28:17,843 --> 00:28:20,760 Because someone has taken the gun and used it, 539 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,021 the same gun that was used to shoot Victoria Summers, 540 00:28:23,056 --> 00:28:25,558 someone used it to shoot your dad. 541 00:28:25,593 --> 00:28:27,755 Did Aaron hide a gun in your house? 542 00:28:29,273 --> 00:28:30,870 Alma? 543 00:28:33,409 --> 00:28:36,263 - Alma? - Yes. 544 00:28:36,825 --> 00:28:39,809 - Is it still there? - Yeah. Yeah. 545 00:28:39,859 --> 00:28:42,908 It's in my airing cupboard. 546 00:28:43,264 --> 00:28:47,059 Right. I'm afraid, Alma, I'm gonna have to arrest you 547 00:28:47,094 --> 00:28:48,775 for possession of a firearm. 548 00:28:48,810 --> 00:28:50,983 You don't have to say anything that may harm your defence. 549 00:28:51,018 --> 00:28:54,204 If you do not mention, when questioned, something which you later rely on in court, 550 00:28:54,239 --> 00:28:57,256 and anything you do say may be given as evidence. Do you understand? 551 00:28:57,291 --> 00:28:59,919 - I just did... - Do you understand? 552 00:29:00,460 --> 00:29:01,431 Yes. 553 00:29:06,380 --> 00:29:10,726 I've double-checked with the search team. There's no gun at Alma and Sammy's place. 554 00:29:10,761 --> 00:29:13,368 I could've told you that. I went through the place with a fine-toothcomb. 555 00:29:13,403 --> 00:29:14,692 Yeah. 556 00:29:15,269 --> 00:29:18,655 Listen, we know the same gun was used for both shootings. 557 00:29:18,781 --> 00:29:21,889 OK, and for me that points the limelight back at Joseph Brookes. 558 00:29:21,924 --> 00:29:25,046 What's to say he didn't call over to Alma's house, take the gun himself? 559 00:29:25,081 --> 00:29:28,544 She's claiming she didn't know him, but he's a threatening guy. 560 00:29:28,579 --> 00:29:31,526 He could have easily intimidated her into silence. 561 00:29:31,576 --> 00:29:32,100 Mm. 562 00:29:32,135 --> 00:29:34,494 What about Kelly and her allegation? 563 00:29:34,591 --> 00:29:37,774 She's got a strong motive for wanting to shoot the reverend, 564 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:39,601 plus we know the gun was in her house. 565 00:29:39,636 --> 00:29:41,211 She could've found it easily. 566 00:29:41,293 --> 00:29:43,004 But she's not the only one who lives there. 567 00:29:43,054 --> 00:29:44,851 But Sammy and Alma have alibied each other. 568 00:29:44,909 --> 00:29:50,220 Listen, Kelly's is the only statement that references our reverend 569 00:29:50,255 --> 00:29:52,628 in the sexual abuse case. 570 00:29:52,663 --> 00:29:56,036 I can't keep him in. We don't have enough evidence, guys. 571 00:29:56,372 --> 00:29:59,387 You've gotta let him go, Jack, all right? Tsk. 572 00:30:03,657 --> 00:30:09,094 Boss? Joseph Brookes' alibi, I knew it was bullshit, I can now prove it's bullshit. 573 00:30:09,150 --> 00:30:12,319 His girlfriend, Libby James, was at the boxing club this morning with her son. 574 00:30:12,354 --> 00:30:13,755 Her name was on our list of witnesses. 575 00:30:13,790 --> 00:30:16,073 - Great. - All right, well, 576 00:30:16,108 --> 00:30:19,242 let's give Joseph Brookes a chance to clarify his statement, shall we? 577 00:30:19,277 --> 00:30:22,095 - It would be my pleasure. - Yeah. 578 00:30:22,928 --> 00:30:25,471 So I know your alibi's rubbish, you know your alibi's rubbish. 579 00:30:25,537 --> 00:30:29,857 You two have spoken about the fact your alibi's rubbish. Talk to me. 580 00:30:30,758 --> 00:30:32,705 - OK, I wasn't at my girlfriend's house. - I know that. 581 00:30:32,740 --> 00:30:36,121 I know that, Joseph. Where were you? 582 00:30:36,353 --> 00:30:40,695 - Jordan Crescent, number 24. - Is that where you live? 583 00:30:40,730 --> 00:30:43,100 - No. - So what were you doing there? 584 00:30:44,888 --> 00:30:49,013 - I was doing a burglary. - You "was doing a burglary"? 585 00:30:49,063 --> 00:30:50,413 Charming. 586 00:30:50,475 --> 00:30:53,197 Yeah, I'm not proud of it. I didn't need to do it. 587 00:30:53,247 --> 00:30:54,426 Right. 588 00:30:54,461 --> 00:30:57,989 I'm checking that out. You'll be going back to your cell. 589 00:30:58,024 --> 00:31:00,058 Happy days. Thank you. 590 00:31:00,443 --> 00:31:02,232 Jason Brookes couldn't have shot the reverend. 591 00:31:02,267 --> 00:31:05,243 The property he said he was in this morning was burgled 592 00:31:05,301 --> 00:31:07,135 at the same time as the reverend was shot, 593 00:31:07,193 --> 00:31:10,223 plus Uniform have picked up the stolen property exactly where 594 00:31:10,258 --> 00:31:14,701 he said it would be, with his fingerprints all over it, so Joseph didn't shoot Daniel. 595 00:31:14,751 --> 00:31:16,284 Oh, Jesus. 596 00:31:16,357 --> 00:31:18,669 Who the bloody hell did? 597 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:26,637 In Victoria Summers' statement, she said that her shooter, her attacker, 598 00:31:26,686 --> 00:31:29,153 wore this type of dark bomber jacket. 599 00:31:29,226 --> 00:31:32,211 This particular jacket was recovered by the search team 600 00:31:32,284 --> 00:31:34,679 from Joseph Brookes' mother's address. 601 00:31:34,797 --> 00:31:37,595 So Joseph's DNA all over it, there's gunshot residue all over it 602 00:31:37,630 --> 00:31:41,500 that surely proves that Joseph Brookes shot Victoria Summers. 603 00:31:43,885 --> 00:31:47,681 - Weston, really? - Boss? Boss? 604 00:31:47,716 --> 00:31:49,676 OK, hang on. Thank you. 605 00:31:49,794 --> 00:31:51,618 Uniform said they've found a weapon. 606 00:31:55,218 --> 00:31:57,205 They found the gun in that bin, 607 00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,853 then our guys have lifted a really good footprint from down there. 608 00:31:59,888 --> 00:32:00,769 Kelly's? 609 00:32:00,804 --> 00:32:04,390 Could be. Maybe she did sneak back and shoot the reverend. 610 00:32:11,410 --> 00:32:14,332 The firearm is with the lab. They're running fingermark analysis. 611 00:32:14,367 --> 00:32:15,431 Hopefully, when that comes back, 612 00:32:15,466 --> 00:32:19,855 - it'll tell us something, anything. - It may well tell us nothing. 613 00:32:19,890 --> 00:32:23,903 It was probably wiped. Joseph Brookes almost certainly wore gloves. 614 00:32:23,938 --> 00:32:27,739 The question still remains. Who shot Reverend Matthews? 615 00:32:28,350 --> 00:32:33,430 So we've got some CCTV that puts a whole new spin on our case. 616 00:32:33,601 --> 00:32:35,587 - OK, note the time. Jack. - 11:40. 617 00:32:35,637 --> 00:32:37,613 - The time when the reverend was shot. - Indeed. 618 00:32:37,679 --> 00:32:41,853 And here we have Aaron's car, Aaron and Kelly. 619 00:32:41,888 --> 00:32:42,595 Wow. 620 00:32:42,630 --> 00:32:46,239 So, first of all, that means he wasn't lying when he gave her an alibi. 621 00:32:46,289 --> 00:32:49,129 Secondly, she can't have shot the reverend. 622 00:32:49,649 --> 00:32:53,292 Fingermark analysis on the gun is back. They've got a positive match. 623 00:32:54,553 --> 00:32:56,553 Don't keep me waiting. Who is it? 624 00:32:56,701 --> 00:33:01,127 Have you seen that gun before? 625 00:33:01,162 --> 00:33:04,045 Your prints are all over this, Alma. 626 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,981 Yes. 627 00:33:07,016 --> 00:33:08,794 Have you seen it? 628 00:33:10,141 --> 00:33:12,352 Have you ever used that gun? 629 00:33:12,526 --> 00:33:15,106 I just wanted to scare him. 630 00:33:17,777 --> 00:33:19,777 He raped my son. 631 00:33:20,617 --> 00:33:22,617 He raped my son. 632 00:33:25,348 --> 00:33:29,716 - And I just shot. - What did you do then? 633 00:33:31,250 --> 00:33:33,250 Put the gun in the bin 634 00:33:34,193 --> 00:33:38,791 and went home and I took my pills. 635 00:33:38,826 --> 00:33:44,186 Did he see your face? Did he see who was firing the gun at him? 636 00:33:44,275 --> 00:33:45,714 Yeah. 637 00:33:46,496 --> 00:33:49,081 - Are you sure? - Yeah, he saw me. 638 00:33:52,582 --> 00:33:56,407 I mean we're not quite at the popping the champagne cork stage 639 00:33:56,442 --> 00:33:58,383 - of the case, do you know what I mean? - Yeah. 640 00:33:58,418 --> 00:34:02,127 - My God, we're close, Charlie. - Boss? 641 00:34:02,167 --> 00:34:05,386 Those parents of the sick child at the hospital got in touch. 642 00:34:05,422 --> 00:34:08,776 They said, 100 percent, Daniel spent the night at the hospital. 643 00:34:08,811 --> 00:34:10,551 He didn't spend it at the campsite. 644 00:34:10,586 --> 00:34:14,388 The truth exonerates him. He couldn't have raped Sammy, but why's he lying? 645 00:34:14,446 --> 00:34:17,479 The same reason he lied about the Victoria Summers shooting. 646 00:34:17,557 --> 00:34:18,635 He doesn't want us to know Aaron 647 00:34:18,670 --> 00:34:20,872 had a chance to be alone with Sammy at the campsite. 648 00:34:20,953 --> 00:34:22,492 OK, bring in the reverend 649 00:34:22,527 --> 00:34:26,804 on what we have, which is aiding and abetting, OK? 650 00:34:35,858 --> 00:34:39,086 I'm arresting you for aiding and abetting. You don't have to say anything. 651 00:34:39,121 --> 00:34:39,659 It may harm your defence 652 00:34:39,694 --> 00:34:42,604 if you say something later used in court. Anything you do say 653 00:34:42,639 --> 00:34:45,756 - may be used in evidence. Understand? - Yes. 654 00:34:45,799 --> 00:34:47,815 I've told you everything. 655 00:34:47,862 --> 00:34:49,805 - You can cover for your paedophile son? - No. 656 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,261 Taking your reverend for a chat. 657 00:34:51,312 --> 00:34:54,085 - I'm ashamed of nothing. - Why were you breaking this up? 658 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,228 Tech have been through Aaron's laptop. 659 00:34:56,263 --> 00:35:00,643 There's a whole file full of images and photographs of children. 660 00:35:00,784 --> 00:35:03,086 It seems he was taking pictures of the kids 661 00:35:03,121 --> 00:35:05,375 in the showers at the boxing club. 662 00:35:06,609 --> 00:35:08,306 Thanks, Charlie. 663 00:35:08,986 --> 00:35:13,445 To be honest, I think the reverend knew exactly what his little boy was up to, 664 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:17,429 and for some time, too. Otherwise why would he try to knacker that laptop? 665 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,897 Why has your dad refused to tell us, 666 00:35:22,022 --> 00:35:25,556 point-blank refused to tell us, who shot him? 667 00:35:25,678 --> 00:35:28,254 Perhaps he doesn't know. I mean the only person I can think who 668 00:35:28,319 --> 00:35:31,105 actually would wanna do it is maybe 669 00:35:31,140 --> 00:35:33,377 somebody who heard the allegations that were going round? 670 00:35:33,412 --> 00:35:36,707 I mean Kelly was telling so many people about it, 671 00:35:36,749 --> 00:35:39,935 word got round maybe and that's why they shot him. 672 00:35:40,071 --> 00:35:41,344 Right. 673 00:35:41,581 --> 00:35:45,015 And you said that there's all these allegations around that your dad 674 00:35:45,050 --> 00:35:48,656 was a paedophile, but in fact it was you who told Kelly 675 00:35:48,691 --> 00:35:51,248 that your dad was a paedophile, didn't you? 676 00:35:52,048 --> 00:35:55,124 - No, I never said that. - According to Kelly you did. 677 00:35:55,159 --> 00:35:57,635 Yeah, I told you about Kelly. 678 00:35:57,670 --> 00:36:01,428 According to Kelly, Sammy told you that he was abused, 679 00:36:01,502 --> 00:36:05,523 - sexually abused, by your dad. - I've never said that. 680 00:36:05,558 --> 00:36:07,421 I've never said my dad was a paedophile. 681 00:36:07,456 --> 00:36:11,096 - Why did she say that, then? - I've no idea. 682 00:36:11,131 --> 00:36:14,051 Was it anything to do with, um... 683 00:36:14,704 --> 00:36:16,279 ...to do with this? 684 00:36:18,482 --> 00:36:20,960 I've placed the laptop on the table. 685 00:36:23,079 --> 00:36:25,079 Who owns the laptop? 686 00:36:26,358 --> 00:36:28,394 Who owns the laptop? 687 00:36:29,242 --> 00:36:30,273 It's my laptop. 688 00:36:30,308 --> 00:36:31,455 - Yeah? - Hm. 689 00:36:31,528 --> 00:36:32,790 OK. 690 00:36:33,074 --> 00:36:34,876 Do you wanna know what we found in it? 691 00:36:36,038 --> 00:36:39,724 You haven't seen this before, so I apologise for shocking you this way. 692 00:36:39,759 --> 00:36:43,490 I know you're not gonna be shocked because I know you've seen these countless times. 693 00:36:43,538 --> 00:36:47,949 These are images, images of naked eight-year-old boys 694 00:36:47,984 --> 00:36:51,024 taken from the boxing club. OK? 695 00:36:51,069 --> 00:36:53,202 Do you wanna know how they got on your laptop? 696 00:36:54,570 --> 00:36:56,570 Tell us about the photos, Aaron? 697 00:36:59,345 --> 00:37:01,874 You need to explain this to us, my friend. 698 00:37:01,980 --> 00:37:04,540 My dad caught me 699 00:37:05,028 --> 00:37:07,868 taking pictures of the boys in the shower at the gym. 700 00:37:11,527 --> 00:37:15,089 I said it'll never happen again. 701 00:37:15,777 --> 00:37:18,159 I really hoped it wouldn't happen again. 702 00:37:18,213 --> 00:37:19,870 Did it happen again? 703 00:37:23,645 --> 00:37:25,805 I just couldn't help it. 704 00:37:25,884 --> 00:37:28,340 It wasn't my fault, I just couldn't help it. 705 00:37:28,375 --> 00:37:31,415 - You couldn't help taking those pictures? - Yeah. I just couldn't... 706 00:37:31,511 --> 00:37:33,494 And looking at them? 707 00:37:33,572 --> 00:37:36,247 Then acting on them. What happened on the camping trip? 708 00:37:37,402 --> 00:37:41,454 Your dad was at the hospital, we know he wasn't there. You tell us. 709 00:37:43,288 --> 00:37:46,457 Did you rape Samuel Pearce? 710 00:37:47,586 --> 00:37:49,967 Samuel went to sleep in my tent. 711 00:37:50,619 --> 00:37:52,882 He'd had a nightmare. 712 00:37:52,935 --> 00:37:55,648 That's what happens with Sammy, he gets... 713 00:37:55,706 --> 00:37:56,404 No, no, no. 714 00:37:56,439 --> 00:38:00,164 No, no, stop there. Did you rape Samuel Pearce? 715 00:38:00,199 --> 00:38:03,590 I didn't... I just couldn't help it. 716 00:38:06,648 --> 00:38:08,922 I couldn't do anything about it. 717 00:38:09,042 --> 00:38:12,865 So you did sexually abuse Samuel Pearce? 718 00:38:13,336 --> 00:38:16,194 What happened, it just happened. 719 00:38:16,823 --> 00:38:20,115 - It... - Aaron, Aaron? 720 00:38:20,861 --> 00:38:22,848 You're not doing yourself any favours here 721 00:38:22,951 --> 00:38:24,667 by trying to come across as the meek, 722 00:38:24,702 --> 00:38:27,539 weak, guilty individual. Answer the question. 723 00:38:27,574 --> 00:38:29,712 Did you rape Samuel Pearce, just yes or no? 724 00:38:29,747 --> 00:38:31,631 - Yes or no, yes or no... - I couldn't help it. 725 00:38:31,666 --> 00:38:33,307 Yes or no? 726 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,168 Yes. 727 00:38:35,481 --> 00:38:39,907 Just tell me one thing. Why did you... Why did you say 728 00:38:39,981 --> 00:38:42,323 that your dad was a paedophile? 729 00:38:42,373 --> 00:38:45,356 How did that get you off the hook, out of interest? 730 00:38:45,403 --> 00:38:51,427 He knew I was driving the car when Joseph shot Victoria Summers. 731 00:38:51,809 --> 00:38:53,966 He was onto me about it. He gave me an ultimatum. 732 00:38:54,001 --> 00:38:58,231 He said, "If you don't tell the police, I'm going to the police." 733 00:38:59,418 --> 00:39:02,553 I thought... I thought maybe if I made something up about him, 734 00:39:02,588 --> 00:39:05,707 if I made a story up, he'd forget about it 735 00:39:05,742 --> 00:39:09,241 and that'd take his mind off it. 736 00:39:11,310 --> 00:39:13,748 How can you live with yourself? 737 00:39:16,051 --> 00:39:19,287 All that shit about "I couldn't help myself, I tried really, really hard," 738 00:39:19,322 --> 00:39:21,421 I thought I was gonna puke. 739 00:39:21,456 --> 00:39:25,352 - It doesn't get any easier. - I just spoke to Child Protection. 740 00:39:25,402 --> 00:39:27,103 Now Aaron's been arrested, Sammy told them 741 00:39:27,138 --> 00:39:29,458 that Aaron threatened to kill Alma and Kelly 742 00:39:29,493 --> 00:39:33,247 if he said anything. He's just absolutely terrified. 743 00:39:33,312 --> 00:39:35,666 It was Aaron who told him to burn all his clothes. 744 00:39:35,757 --> 00:39:37,090 Pfft! 745 00:39:37,233 --> 00:39:40,793 - Another great day in the office. - Yeah, right. 746 00:39:40,951 --> 00:39:42,636 Why did you lie? 747 00:39:44,761 --> 00:39:51,512 I was trying to help my son. I didn't know what my son had done. 748 00:39:51,547 --> 00:39:54,430 I knew he'd done something, I wasn't aware... 749 00:39:54,465 --> 00:39:58,406 That's bullshit, otherwise you would've told us that it was Alma that shot you. 750 00:39:58,441 --> 00:40:02,429 The reason you didn't tell us it was Alma is because she is the mother 751 00:40:02,464 --> 00:40:06,640 of the young, innocent boy who was raped 752 00:40:06,675 --> 00:40:10,182 by your son, by your flesh and blood. That's why you didn't tell us. 753 00:40:10,232 --> 00:40:14,618 - I was just trying to help him. - You should be bloody ashamed of yourself. 754 00:40:14,653 --> 00:40:18,070 - I am ashamed of myself. - Really? 755 00:40:18,105 --> 00:40:21,180 Really, I am deeply ashamed of myself. 756 00:40:21,215 --> 00:40:23,626 I am deeply ashamed of my son 757 00:40:23,661 --> 00:40:27,037 and the pain and hurt that he has caused. 758 00:40:27,088 --> 00:40:30,240 I thought this was a situation that would go away, 759 00:40:30,275 --> 00:40:32,512 I tried to address it in the best way that I could, 760 00:40:32,547 --> 00:40:36,743 - and I obviously failed. - I think you're a disgrace, 761 00:40:36,877 --> 00:40:40,919 not only to your community but to your religion at large. 762 00:40:41,521 --> 00:40:44,757 OK, you're already under arrest for aiding and abetting a sexual offender. 763 00:40:44,792 --> 00:40:48,188 I am now arresting you for perverting the course of justice. 764 00:40:48,274 --> 00:40:50,623 Again, you do not have to say anything, 765 00:40:50,658 --> 00:40:52,772 though it may harm your defence if you fail to mention, when questioned, 766 00:40:52,807 --> 00:40:54,620 something you later rely on in court. 767 00:40:54,655 --> 00:40:58,036 Anything you do say may be used against you. Understand? 768 00:40:58,071 --> 00:40:59,352 Yes. 769 00:41:00,595 --> 00:41:02,188 I think we're done. 770 00:41:04,707 --> 00:41:08,198 - Kelly, there's been some changes. - What kind of changes? 771 00:41:08,233 --> 00:41:11,229 We have had a confession from... 772 00:41:11,302 --> 00:41:13,080 Aaron Matthews. 773 00:41:13,203 --> 00:41:16,113 - Saying what? - Confessing to... 774 00:41:16,148 --> 00:41:18,788 ...abusing your brother Sammy. 775 00:41:18,823 --> 00:41:22,338 That's fuckin' bullshit. I can't believe you're actually telling me 776 00:41:22,388 --> 00:41:26,816 that you believe that my boyfriend would do that? Are you serious? 777 00:41:26,851 --> 00:41:30,862 Kelly, Sammy has said that he was just very scared and... 778 00:41:30,897 --> 00:41:31,954 Sammy has said that? 779 00:41:32,027 --> 00:41:35,495 - Sammy felt he couldn't... - I don't know. 780 00:41:35,530 --> 00:41:38,986 ...tell the truth and he was a scared little boy. It's often the way. 781 00:41:39,021 --> 00:41:42,716 No. No, no, no, no. That's... No. That... 782 00:41:43,744 --> 00:41:45,208 No... 783 00:41:45,289 --> 00:41:47,261 I wanna make sure that you see your family 784 00:41:47,296 --> 00:41:52,099 and we will make provisions for your release. 785 00:42:07,639 --> 00:42:11,651 We interviewed Aaron Matthews. 786 00:42:12,830 --> 00:42:18,853 He has... confessed to the sexual abuse of your son. 787 00:42:18,996 --> 00:42:22,259 Sammy said it's... it's Daniel. 788 00:42:23,707 --> 00:42:27,753 Well, it's come out that Sammy was scared, he was threatened, 789 00:42:27,788 --> 00:42:36,537 and he felt unable to talk about this, Alma. 790 00:42:37,015 --> 00:42:39,015 I shot the wrong man. 791 00:42:56,476 --> 00:43:00,446 The worst part of it is, is that if Rev Matthews had reported his son, 792 00:43:00,481 --> 00:43:03,319 Aaron, for taking those images of the boxing club kids, 793 00:43:03,354 --> 00:43:06,275 then Aaron probably wouldn't have gone on to rape Sammy. 794 00:43:06,364 --> 00:43:09,705 They say parents would do anything for their kids, right? 795 00:43:09,824 --> 00:43:12,649 Do you know, I think that's bullshit, actually. 796 00:43:12,684 --> 00:43:18,122 I think that the reverend was just looking out for his own reputation. 797 00:43:18,157 --> 00:43:24,069 I don't think he gave a damn about his son, I really don't. 798 00:43:24,856 --> 00:43:27,575 Now, can we fuel the rumour that I'm an alcoholic? 799 00:43:27,610 --> 00:43:30,129 Could somebody buy me a fucking drink? 800 00:43:31,061 --> 00:43:32,744 I think Jack started that rumour. 801 00:43:32,779 --> 00:43:35,339 Come on, I need drinking buddies. Come on. 802 00:43:35,688 --> 00:43:37,350 _ 803 00:43:37,385 --> 00:43:41,695 Bessie Walker, 65, widow. Ambulance called just before noon 804 00:43:41,730 --> 00:43:43,778 from a telephone box in Wadsworth Street. 805 00:43:43,867 --> 00:43:46,685 That moped is licensed to a Mario Baber. 806 00:43:49,086 --> 00:43:52,953 I'm arresting you on suspicion of GBH and a burglary this morning 807 00:43:52,988 --> 00:43:54,103 at Suttonfields Estate. 808 00:43:54,138 --> 00:43:58,136 I pop round to see her every so often. I look out for her, make sure she's OK. 809 00:43:58,270 --> 00:44:02,550 Betty had £10,000 in cash in a locked room... and it's all gone. 810 00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:06,007 - Am I under arrest? - Not yet. 811 00:44:06,042 --> 00:44:09,073 I'm not under arrest though, am I?! I'm not under arrest. 812 00:44:09,108 --> 00:44:10,325 See you later. 813 00:44:10,376 --> 00:44:12,776 When was the last time that you saw your mum? 814 00:44:12,905 --> 00:44:15,261 What, you think I went round there and smashed my mum in? 815 00:44:15,373 --> 00:44:17,373 Mark, why did you go to prison? 816 00:44:19,654 --> 00:44:20,687 Burglary. 817 00:44:20,722 --> 00:44:23,202 We called down before. Thank you. 818 00:44:25,053 --> 00:44:27,145 - Jack, Jack, Jack? - Yep. 819 00:44:28,696 --> 00:44:33,696 Sync and corrections by explosiveskull www.addic7ed.com 69429

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