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"Reports are coming in of another shooting
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in East London, this
time in broad daylight.
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It comes just days after the
drive-by shooting of 19-year-old
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Victoria Summers, who remains in
a critical condition in hospital."
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Sync and corrections by explosiveskull
www.addic7ed.com
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The victim is 43-year-old Rev Daniel
Matthews. He was shot in the arm,
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there's quite a lot of blood. He's
gone to hospital in the ambulance.
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- Rev Matthews? Really?
- Yeah.
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The guy's a hero around here.
The community love this guy.
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He's taken all these kids off the
street, given them a second chance.
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- Someone doesn't love him.
- So, what's happening?
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I thought it was a gangland.
Fuckin' reverend's been shot.
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- For real?
- Yeah.
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Oh, Jesus, that's all I need.
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So we've got no CCTV inside
and no CCTV on the outside.
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That's a deliberate move by the reverend to
develop a sense of trust between the boys.
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Some of these kids have had brushes
with the police at seven or eight.
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Yeah. Maybe his "hug a hoodie" approach
has bitten him on the arse this time.
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- Hey.
- One of the guys said that
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just before the reverend got shot,
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he saw a white female come in and
ask the reverend to go outside.
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- They say her name's Kelly Pearce.
- That's interesting.
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Maybe someone else sent her in
to pull him outside, you know?
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Apparently she's going out
with the reverend's son, Aaron.
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- I mean if she did, it'd be...
- What's the son called?
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- Aaron, yeah.
- OK.
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- Aaron Matthews?
- Yeah.
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Hi. DC Charlotte Steele.
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- I'm one of the officers investigating...
- Sorry.
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Is my dad going to be OK? How is he?
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He's... fine. I just went
and spoke to a doctor.
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I was told he was hit in
the fleshy part of arm,
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so there's a lot of blood,
but it could've been...
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- I'm sorry.
- And it could've been much, much worse.
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He's in surgery now, they'll patch him up
and he should make a pretty swift recovery.
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Your girlfriend Kelly was at the
boxing club this morning. Why was that?
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I drove Kelly there this morning.
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She wanted to speak to my
dad, I don't know what about.
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You'd driven her?
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I parked round the back and
waited for her to come out.
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- She was only gone a couple of minutes.
- You didn't go inside?
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- No.
- OK.
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Reverend Daniel Matthews, founder
of Kirkley Way Boxing Gym...
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where he was shot this morning. This is
the alleyway leading off the front door.
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Front door where the shooting
took place. Timeline wise,
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the boxers take a break on the
dot every morning at 11:30am.
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They said just as they broke,
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they saw Kelly Pearce
arrive to talk to Daniel.
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And then local residents said
they heard a gunshot at 11:40,
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- so we've got a ten-minute cut-off.
- Ten-minute window for Kelly Pearce,
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if she did it to shoot our reverend.
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So Kelly went in, had a chat with your
dad about something, you don't know what,
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- then she came back...
- Yeah, she came back
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after about five minutes,
then we went for a drive.
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- Where did you go?
- Um, I pulled up by the canal.
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- OK.
- She was in a bit of a funny mood,
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so she said she needed to clear her head.
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- So she went for a walk down the canal.
- What does "funny mood" mean?
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Um... Well, you know,
just kind of argumentative.
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She gets a bit that way sometimes.
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Just a little bit, you know,
I don't know, in a funny mood.
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- OK. Do you know where she is now?
- No, I haven't heard from her since.
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Police! Open up.
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How are you doing? I'm DS Jack
Weston. Who am I talking to?
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Alma.
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- Alma what?
- Alma Pearce.
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- Are you Kelly Pearce's mother?
- Yes.
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- Yes. Is Kelly at home?
- I don't think so.
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I've got a warrant to search your home.
We're looking for a firearm. Step aside.
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Anyone else in the house
I need to know about?
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My son.
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Yeah. Sit down. Can I get you
a glass of water or anything?
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- Are you on any medication?
- No, just diazepam.
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OK, how many have you taken? Do
I need to get you an ambulance?
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- No.
- Are you sure?
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- Yes.
- OK.
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OK, just have a very quick read of
this so you understand what's happening.
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- Anything?
- Nothing, sir.
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- No?
- I'll check upstairs.
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Hi, Sammy. Sammy, I'm
looking for your sister Kelly.
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Do you have any idea where she is?
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Sammy, can you answer me?
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Just say yes or no.
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Have you any idea where
you sister Kelly is?
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No.
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Kelly Pearce's flat, clean as a whistle.
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SOCOs have found a shell casing
from inside the boxing club.
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We should be able to figure
out, looking at the shell casing,
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whether the firearm used to shoot
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Rev Daniel Matthews was
used in any other crime.
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I fed Daniel's address into the computer.
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There was a report of a
disturbance earlier at the vicarage.
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A neighbour rang in and said a young
man was kicking the door and shouting,
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there was a bit of back and forth
between him and the reverend.
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She took the car registration...
and it is registered to...
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- Joseph Brookes.
- A local gang member,
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a series of drug convictions...
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and also a main suspect for the Victoria
Summers drive-by shooting two days ago.
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When we spoke to Rev Matthews last week,
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as just someone who was in the
vicinity of the drive-by shooting,
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he said he didn't see anything,
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he didn't know anything about it,
now this man, our prime suspect,
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turns up banging and
shouting outside his door.
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Exactly. So, let's deal
with something concrete.
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Let's pull him in on a
Public Order Offence, OK?
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So, at 10:30 this morning, Joseph,
you were seen banging on the door of
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the vicarage where the Rev
Matthews lives. Why were you there?
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My friend lives there, innit?
I was looking for Aaron.
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The way I play it, you were having
an argument with the reverend.
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- Argument?
- Yeah.
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Pfft, tell me where you got that from?
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As far as a domestic disturbance,
that's a pretty big barney.
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That's... bullshit.
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I was there, not for Aaron, he wasn't in,
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I had a word with the dad,
innit? It's nothing major.
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- Do you get on with his dad?
- Yeah, his dad's a cool guy.
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Come on. He taught me my
right hook and everything.
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- I've got a good right hook, you know?
- Huh, sure you do.
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Thank you. Rev Matthews?
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- Hello, I'm Martha Bellamy,
- Yes.
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Detective Inspector.
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We met some years ago. Are
you all right to shake hands?
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- I am.
- You're OK with that hand?
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- Oh dear, how are feeling?
- I'm fine, given the circumstances.
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I want to run through a
couple of things, if that's OK?
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- Aaron, can you just give us a minute?
- Sure.
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This is your boy?
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- Son Aaron.
- OK.
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Are you gonna talk me
through what happened?
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Er, yes.
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We were training this morning.
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It was a normal training
session, we broke at around 11:30.
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Um, Kelly, one of the younger
boxers, came in to speak to me.
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- Kelly? Kelly who?
- Kelly Pearce.
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OK.
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She came in to speak to me.
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Basically she came to tell me
she no longer wanted to train.
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She's actually been spending
a lot of time with Aaron,
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but I told her I was disappointed,
she's quite a good prospect,
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so we had a conversation. She left.
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I stayed outside to have a
cigarette before going back in.
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And I hear a car coming past,
driving faster than normal,
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enough to make me turn
round. The next thing I know,
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I hear a bang... or I felt a bang.
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I came round, I was lying
on the floor, I'd been shot.
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Right. And how long after
Kelly left did this happen?
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About 15 minutes.
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- Might she have shot you?
- No.
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Not under any circumstances,
no. I don't think it was Kelly.
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OK.
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I believe this morning, cast
your mind back, at the vicarage,
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I believe that there was
a visitor, Joseph Brookes?
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It's just that I was led
to believe there was a row,
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some kind of disturbance was reported?
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We did have a conversation,
it was about his car.
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He's got a very noisy car. Some of
the neighbours had complained about it.
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I just asked him to be mindful
when he was driving around the area.
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Joseph Brookes is tucked up
safe and sound at the station.
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Right.
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- Do you understand what I'm saying?
- Absolutely I do,
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but unfortunately there's
nothing I can tell you about him.
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- How did it go?
- Er, well, he was polite but vague.
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- Yeah?
- He claimed it's a drive-by.
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Really?
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I just had Forensics on the phone.
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They said they can't find any tyre
marks anywhere on the road. OK?
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Plus the fact that shell casing was found
just outside the front door of the club.
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It's not as if it was found,
like, in the middle of the road.
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So it seems maybe the reverend
was shot at a much closer range
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than he's letting on... or can remember.
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Maybe he's memory's
gone, or maybe he's lying?
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Yeah. He's also somewhat reticent
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to talk about the conversation...
slash... row that he had with...
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Come in. ...with Joseph Brookes, too.
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Kelly Pearce has just
walked in. She's downstairs.
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Oh, I wish they'd all just walk in.
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- Right, well, let's show the facilities.
- Excellent.
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Kelly, why did you go
and visit the reverend
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- only this morning?
- I was angry at him.
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A straightforward question.
Did you shoot Reverend Matthews?
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What?
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Did you shoot the reverend?
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I've come here to make a statement
about him, to put him in prison.
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He raped my brother.
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- That's a very serious allegation, Kelly.
- Yes.
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My brother wouldn't lie.
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That's quite an allegation. And if
it's true, it is certainly a motive
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for someone like Kelly
to shoot the reverend.
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Yeah, but if Aaron and Kelly's
statement are to be believed,
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then Kelly has an alibi,
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- right, at the time of the shooting?
- Yeah.
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Belt and braces, you update Jack and
get onto the Child Protection team.
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I want that kid to have a full exam. OK?
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And what did the reverend say
in response to the allegation?
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What do you think he fucking said?
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I've no idea.
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"No, I didn't do it. What
are you talking about?"
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It was the usual thing
that people respond to
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- when they're being accused of something.
- Tell me exactly what you said to him.
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I was really angry at
him. I started shouting,
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and I said to him that I know what you did
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- and I'm gonna tell the police.
- And so who told you...
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- ...about Sammy... about Sammy's abuse?
- Aaron.
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Aaron told me what Sammy
said. I found him at home
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trying to take some of my mum's drugs.
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This is behaviour that's unlike
him. He wouldn't do things like that.
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I was asking him what he was doing.
He was trying to kill himself.
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So obviously something's definitely wrong.
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- And what...
- And then I ask him,
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and he doesn't respond. He
doesn't tell me anything,
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and I thought the only way I can get any
information out of him is through Aaron.
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They're really good friends,
he's like a brother for him.
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His behaviour since he
came back from his trip
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- has just changed who he is.
- Back from which trip?
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They went on a trip, like the boxing team,
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the Rev Daniel took them. It
happened that night in his tent.
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It's Child Protection just
through with the report.
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Poor Samuel's not saying anything,
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but the initial examination
suggested he's been raped.
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Child Protection are asking
whether we can figure out
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what Samuel was actually
wearing last night.
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- OK.
- OK, I'll get onto the search team.
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I do need to go over a few other details
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concerning the shooting this morning.
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Um, Kelly, how did you get to the club?
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- Aaron drove me in his car.
- And Aaron knew why you were going,
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- what you were gonna talk about?
- Of course he knew, yeah.
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- And then you went off on your own?
- Yeah.
229
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Aaron dropped me. He, I don't know,
230
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went to his mate's house or something.
231
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Probably drove off somewhere.
232
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- Right. A mate like Joseph Brookes?
- Hmph. Possibly.
233
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Is he a friend of Aaron and yours?
234
00:12:32,050 --> 00:12:34,448
He's a friend of Aaron's,
not a friend of mine.
235
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Aaron worships the ground he walks on.
236
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He's so obsessed with him.
237
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- What do you think of him?
- He's a dick, that's what I think of him.
238
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What were you doing
between 11 and 12:30 today?
239
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Well,
240
00:12:50,218 --> 00:12:56,816
my girlfriend Libby bent over the
side of the bed at about 11:15.
241
00:12:56,949 --> 00:13:02,137
So if I call her and ask her, she'll
tell me exactly the same thing?
242
00:13:02,221 --> 00:13:04,151
What was that, sorry?
"Bent over the side of..."
243
00:13:04,201 --> 00:13:06,232
- She will say exactly the same thing?
- Exactly the same thing.
244
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Right.
245
00:13:08,437 --> 00:13:10,686
Good. Thank you.
246
00:13:17,590 --> 00:13:20,372
Thanks. Cheers. Bye-bye.
247
00:13:20,407 --> 00:13:23,905
OK, Uniform has searched Joseph
Brookes' car and his house.
248
00:13:23,940 --> 00:13:25,841
- They've seen nothing.
- Obviously.
249
00:13:25,876 --> 00:13:28,139
They're not stupid enough
to leave a gun lying around.
250
00:13:28,197 --> 00:13:30,610
I spoke to his girlfriend,
Libby James, who,
251
00:13:30,645 --> 00:13:33,304
surprise, surprise, corroborates his alibi.
252
00:13:33,339 --> 00:13:35,468
He was with her when
the shooting took place.
253
00:13:35,503 --> 00:13:38,172
- Hmph.
- Which is bullshit.
254
00:13:38,207 --> 00:13:41,428
He used the same alibi for the
Victoria Summers drive-by shooting.
255
00:13:41,463 --> 00:13:44,143
There is no sign of the
firearm at Libby's place.
256
00:13:49,198 --> 00:13:51,472
Aaron. Do you mind if we come in?
257
00:13:53,672 --> 00:13:56,429
Your girlfriend Kelly has made
a very, very serious allegation
258
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of sexual abuse against your father.
259
00:13:59,312 --> 00:14:00,539
So it's Kelly who's said all this?
260
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- She said Sammy told you about it.
- Kelly said my father abused Sammy?
261
00:14:08,294 --> 00:14:09,816
This makes a lot more sense now.
262
00:14:09,882 --> 00:14:11,731
- Does it?
- Yeah.
263
00:14:11,793 --> 00:14:15,964
Yeah, Kelly doesn't really
behave in a normal way.
264
00:14:16,098 --> 00:14:18,599
She's, um... She's...
265
00:14:18,634 --> 00:14:21,934
She finds life difficult,
to put it bluntly, you know?
266
00:14:21,984 --> 00:14:25,533
She's come from a dysfunctional
family, she's really struggled.
267
00:14:25,577 --> 00:14:27,627
She's never been this bad before.
268
00:14:27,662 --> 00:14:28,939
She's never said anything quite like this,
269
00:14:28,974 --> 00:14:32,204
but she's desperate to get
at me, that's what it is.
270
00:14:32,239 --> 00:14:33,774
Why's that?
271
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We broke up this morning.
272
00:14:35,678 --> 00:14:39,003
That's the only reason I can
think she'd wanna really hurt me.
273
00:14:39,068 --> 00:14:43,121
It is the best thing she can
think of. Blame his reverend dad
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- for being a paedophile, you know?
- Did you speak to Sammy this morning?
275
00:14:46,993 --> 00:14:50,373
Yeah, I spoke to Sammy this
morning. We didn't really say much.
276
00:14:50,408 --> 00:14:52,659
OK, listen, Sammy's
been seen by the doctors.
277
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They're convinced he was sexually
abused. But they think the abuse
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happened on a camping trip
279
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- that Sammy was on with your dad.
- Yeah, well,
280
00:15:00,777 --> 00:15:03,251
that explains the
ludicrously of Kelly's story.
281
00:15:03,286 --> 00:15:06,255
I was with him the whole weekend. I
know for a fact my dad, the first night,
282
00:15:06,290 --> 00:15:10,689
was looking after a really sick kid.
Dad went to the hospital with him.
283
00:15:10,881 --> 00:15:14,177
And I think the kid's
parents met him there.
284
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They were there the whole night.
There was obviously a big queue.
285
00:15:17,468 --> 00:15:19,785
Where did everyone sleep? Did
all the boys sleep together
286
00:15:19,820 --> 00:15:21,023
or were they in twos in tents?
287
00:15:21,058 --> 00:15:25,329
The boys all sleep in a dorm together
and I slept with my dad in a tent.
288
00:15:25,418 --> 00:15:28,932
So I was with my dad the
whole time, the whole weekend.
289
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Except when he was at
the hospital, of course.
290
00:15:30,558 --> 00:15:31,718
Aaron, that's great.
291
00:15:31,777 --> 00:15:34,715
- Sorry we had to drop that on you.
- I understand.
292
00:15:34,755 --> 00:15:38,020
Aaron has given us a statement,
and it's nothing like yours.
293
00:15:38,055 --> 00:15:41,152
- What?
- I mean it's different.
294
00:15:41,187 --> 00:15:43,627
- He knows nothing about the allegations.
- What?
295
00:15:43,662 --> 00:15:48,060
- Against his father?
- Fuckin' right.
296
00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:50,560
Ohh, my God.
297
00:15:50,772 --> 00:15:54,487
So we'll say again, Kelly,
now is the time, if you want...
298
00:15:54,522 --> 00:15:55,367
He's the liar.
299
00:15:55,402 --> 00:15:58,842
No, I'm not reconsidering.
I'm not doing any of that.
300
00:15:58,884 --> 00:16:03,586
I'm not reconsidering my story. My
story sticks and I'm telling the truth.
301
00:16:04,023 --> 00:16:06,933
- He's lying.
- Why would he do that?
302
00:16:06,968 --> 00:16:10,598
He doesn't want his dad's reputation in
the community to be destroyed over this,
303
00:16:10,633 --> 00:16:14,190
so that's why he would lie.
Fuckin' do the maths yourself.
304
00:16:17,036 --> 00:16:21,581
So we've got Sammy's clothes, they were
found in the bins outside their flat.
305
00:16:21,616 --> 00:16:24,405
But they're really,
yeah, really badly burned.
306
00:16:24,460 --> 00:16:27,193
That and a couple more pieces
are pretty much all that's left.
307
00:16:27,228 --> 00:16:29,754
I've sent that off to Forensics.
308
00:16:29,789 --> 00:16:31,840
Look. They're hardly gonna
get anything from that.
309
00:16:31,906 --> 00:16:34,174
Why's he burning his clothes?
310
00:16:34,355 --> 00:16:36,317
Boss, clothes found. Sent off to Forensics.
311
00:16:36,352 --> 00:16:39,978
Also, Child Protection have said
that, independently of each other,
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Sammy and Alma have both confirmed
that at the time of the shooting
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00:16:43,871 --> 00:16:46,914
of the reverend, they
were at home together.
314
00:16:47,047 --> 00:16:48,103
All right.
315
00:16:48,206 --> 00:16:49,458
I want you guys to go down to the hospital,
316
00:16:49,493 --> 00:16:52,155
talk to the reverend
about why he's insisting
317
00:16:52,190 --> 00:16:56,920
that this is a drive-by
when clearly it isn't. OK?
318
00:16:56,955 --> 00:16:57,758
All right.
319
00:16:57,793 --> 00:17:01,103
Do you want us to say
anything about the abuse?
320
00:17:01,949 --> 00:17:06,207
You know what? Nothing direct,
Jack. Leave it with Child Protection
321
00:17:06,242 --> 00:17:08,218
for the time being.
They're talking to Sammy.
322
00:17:08,299 --> 00:17:10,429
Listen, we were just wondering if
we could ask you some questions?
323
00:17:10,464 --> 00:17:12,727
Have you been able to remember anything?
324
00:17:12,762 --> 00:17:16,780
Any more details about the
shooting, before and after?
325
00:17:16,854 --> 00:17:20,055
Nothing more than I've
already told your colleague.
326
00:17:20,090 --> 00:17:21,409
OK.
327
00:17:21,595 --> 00:17:24,605
- You said it was a drive-by shooting?
- That's right.
328
00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:27,738
Do you remember any details
about the car, what colour it was?
329
00:17:27,798 --> 00:17:31,071
Er... Blue, I think. Possibly. Maybe green?
330
00:17:31,106 --> 00:17:33,378
I don't know, I don't know.
331
00:17:34,365 --> 00:17:36,688
We'd love to have a look at
your mobile phone if we could,
332
00:17:36,723 --> 00:17:39,099
just to kind of trace previous calls?
333
00:17:39,196 --> 00:17:43,181
Sorry, that's not really... Sorry.
334
00:17:43,269 --> 00:17:45,108
- No?
- No.
335
00:17:45,154 --> 00:17:47,514
- No, you can't.
- Why not?
336
00:17:47,569 --> 00:17:51,059
Because I don't want
you to. I'm very tired,
337
00:17:51,094 --> 00:17:54,966
I think I would like to be
left alone, if that's OK?
338
00:17:55,061 --> 00:17:56,336
OK.
339
00:18:02,047 --> 00:18:03,759
Would you run me through just, sort of,
340
00:18:03,794 --> 00:18:06,912
who said what to who this morning?
341
00:18:07,173 --> 00:18:08,856
Um...
342
00:18:09,247 --> 00:18:14,392
Kelly... Kelly woke up and
told me what Sammy had said.
343
00:18:15,178 --> 00:18:18,697
- And did you go and speak to Sammy?
- I tried to, but...
344
00:18:18,732 --> 00:18:21,232
he was in state, he wouldn't talk to me.
345
00:18:21,267 --> 00:18:25,999
So between then and when
my colleagues came round,
346
00:18:26,034 --> 00:18:28,782
um, what did you do?
347
00:18:29,037 --> 00:18:32,063
Um... I stayed in the flat with Sammy.
348
00:18:32,098 --> 00:18:35,315
Did you try to talk to him
some more, did you call anyone,
349
00:18:35,350 --> 00:18:39,722
- or try and take him somewhere?
- Er... No, I was upset,
350
00:18:39,757 --> 00:18:42,942
so I just took some sleeping pills.
351
00:18:43,668 --> 00:18:48,537
I tried to talk to him again
but... he wouldn't talk to me.
352
00:18:48,638 --> 00:18:54,110
Alma, do you think Reverend Matthews
is responsible for Sammy's abuse?
353
00:18:55,189 --> 00:18:56,729
I don't know him really well,
354
00:18:56,764 --> 00:19:01,907
but he did insist that Sammy
go on a camping trip with him.
355
00:19:02,163 --> 00:19:06,272
And when I said I can't afford
it, he said he's gonna pay for it
356
00:19:06,307 --> 00:19:09,561
from the boxing club subs.
357
00:19:10,475 --> 00:19:11,915
OK.
358
00:19:12,112 --> 00:19:14,515
He said he was gonna look after him.
359
00:19:14,971 --> 00:19:17,003
- Jack.
- Yeah?
360
00:19:17,263 --> 00:19:19,631
Given what Alma said
about the camping trip,
361
00:19:19,666 --> 00:19:22,655
I asked FIU to run off
the reverend's financials.
362
00:19:22,690 --> 00:19:26,265
And he didn't pay for Sammy Pearce's
place out of the boxing subs,
363
00:19:26,315 --> 00:19:28,223
he paid for it out of his own account.
364
00:19:28,319 --> 00:19:33,940
So either he's a very nice man, or
he really wanted Sammy to be there
365
00:19:33,975 --> 00:19:36,797
so he could...
366
00:19:36,832 --> 00:19:38,909
Yeah, it's OK, you don't
have to finish that sentence.
367
00:19:41,045 --> 00:19:43,234
The reverend's been
discharged from hospital.
368
00:19:43,269 --> 00:19:44,332
So what do we do now?
369
00:19:44,367 --> 00:19:45,519
We're gonna play it by
the book, I don't wanna
370
00:19:45,554 --> 00:19:48,437
go too soon on the sexual abuse allegation.
371
00:19:48,510 --> 00:19:51,415
- So let's get him in for a chat, OK?
- Yep.
372
00:19:55,353 --> 00:19:58,147
It's often helpful for me to
go a little bit further back.
373
00:19:58,189 --> 00:19:59,172
Right.
374
00:19:59,207 --> 00:20:02,444
So I'm kinda thinking maybe
kind of around the weekend.
375
00:20:02,478 --> 00:20:04,106
- Mm-hm.
- We know you were on
376
00:20:04,141 --> 00:20:05,548
- some sort of camping trip.
- Yes.
377
00:20:05,587 --> 00:20:08,536
- Yes, it's an annual...
- A group of schoolchildren?
378
00:20:08,571 --> 00:20:10,641
Yeah, a young group, yes, yes.
379
00:20:10,676 --> 00:20:13,513
- Ages, roughly?
- Er... Eight to 15.
380
00:20:13,548 --> 00:20:16,191
- Yeah, it's an annual camp trip.
- OK.
381
00:20:16,279 --> 00:20:17,950
- Did anything happen on the camping trip?
- No.
382
00:20:17,985 --> 00:20:21,038
That was slightly out of
ordinary, slightly untoward?
383
00:20:21,073 --> 00:20:22,091
Nothing untoward.
384
00:20:22,126 --> 00:20:23,831
A boy was taken ill.
385
00:20:24,444 --> 00:20:27,889
I spent most of the first
night with him. In the morning
386
00:20:27,924 --> 00:20:31,684
he'd made no improvement so we
decided to take him to hospital.
387
00:20:31,794 --> 00:20:36,129
And they admitted him... and I spent
the following day there with him,
388
00:20:36,164 --> 00:20:38,313
waiting for his parents to come.
389
00:20:38,391 --> 00:20:40,797
And when they did I came back to the camp.
390
00:20:41,403 --> 00:20:44,673
- You came back to the campsite?
- Yes. Yes, early morning.
391
00:20:44,708 --> 00:20:46,525
Kind of two, one o'clock.
392
00:20:46,567 --> 00:20:49,002
- You didn't stay the night?
- No, I went back to the camp.
393
00:20:49,037 --> 00:20:50,955
OK, because we spoke to Aaron, your son...
394
00:20:50,990 --> 00:20:51,644
Right.
395
00:20:51,679 --> 00:20:54,879
And he said that you did stay
out all night at the hospital.
396
00:20:56,281 --> 00:21:00,519
No. No, no, as I say, it was between
one and two, but closer to one.
397
00:21:00,633 --> 00:21:04,308
- I came back, Aaron was asleep.
- OK. Great.
398
00:21:04,343 --> 00:21:06,652
- Do you mind if I go for a very quick wee?
- No, no.
399
00:21:06,687 --> 00:21:08,555
I'll be two seconds.
400
00:21:15,075 --> 00:21:17,681
He's saying, on the night of the
assault, he left the hospital,
401
00:21:17,716 --> 00:21:20,488
got back to the campsite around
one, spent the night there.
402
00:21:20,523 --> 00:21:23,632
Aaron is saying his dad
didn't go back to the campsite,
403
00:21:23,667 --> 00:21:24,739
spent the night at the hospital.
404
00:21:24,774 --> 00:21:28,394
I can't track down the sick child's
parents to figure out who's lying.
405
00:21:28,467 --> 00:21:29,465
I spoke to Aaron.
406
00:21:29,538 --> 00:21:32,248
I've just been down to TIU.
They've been over Kelly's phone,
407
00:21:32,329 --> 00:21:35,753
and Aaron left her a
voicemail this morning.
408
00:21:35,821 --> 00:21:36,739
Oh, yeah?
409
00:21:36,774 --> 00:21:38,696
"Kelly, it's me. Please, please
410
00:21:38,731 --> 00:21:40,427
don't speak to the police
before you speak to me.
411
00:21:40,501 --> 00:21:45,593
It's really important you speak to
me first. All right, I love you. Bye."
412
00:21:45,628 --> 00:21:48,551
That does not sound like someone
who's broken up with their girlfriend.
413
00:21:48,586 --> 00:21:53,358
He's covering up for his dad. OK,
gloves off. Green light. Go for it, Jack.
414
00:21:54,331 --> 00:21:57,152
Daniel, a very serious allegation
has been made against you.
415
00:21:57,186 --> 00:21:58,447
Right.
416
00:21:59,153 --> 00:22:03,365
OK, the allegation is
that you sexually abused,
417
00:22:03,458 --> 00:22:05,054
you raped
418
00:22:05,130 --> 00:22:06,974
a 12-year-old boy on the
camping trip last week.
419
00:22:07,009 --> 00:22:09,009
That's nonsense.
420
00:22:10,397 --> 00:22:13,375
- Is it?
- Yes, it's nonsense.
421
00:22:15,039 --> 00:22:18,978
Nevertheless, the allegation has been made.
I need to fully investigate the allegation.
422
00:22:19,013 --> 00:22:21,646
I am not satisfied with what
you've told me, therefore
423
00:22:21,681 --> 00:22:24,243
- I'm arresting you for the rape...
- This is nonsense.
424
00:22:24,293 --> 00:22:26,506
You do not have to say anything,
but it may harm your defence
425
00:22:26,572 --> 00:22:28,216
if you fail to mention something
426
00:22:28,251 --> 00:22:31,366
you later rely on in court. Anything
you do say may be used in evidence.
427
00:22:31,455 --> 00:22:33,455
Do you understand?
428
00:22:34,406 --> 00:22:38,284
- Daniel, do you understand?
- Yes.
429
00:22:40,731 --> 00:22:45,094
The report is back. The gun used to shoot
Rev Matthews is the same gun that was used
430
00:22:45,144 --> 00:22:48,167
in the Victoria Summers drive-by shooting.
431
00:22:48,202 --> 00:22:49,727
I'll see you upstairs
in two seconds. Great.
432
00:22:49,762 --> 00:22:50,944
OK.
433
00:22:51,713 --> 00:22:55,332
I have been looking
through Aaron's call data.
434
00:22:55,852 --> 00:22:59,716
Now, in the week since Victoria
Summer's drive-by shooting
435
00:22:59,766 --> 00:23:03,590
there have been loads of calls
from Joseph Brookes to Aaron,
436
00:23:03,657 --> 00:23:06,760
although most of the ones in the
last two days have been rejected.
437
00:23:06,834 --> 00:23:10,714
I also had another look over Miss Summer's
witness statement. The car she described
438
00:23:10,771 --> 00:23:14,452
as the one that was used in the
shooting matches Aaron Matthews' car.
439
00:23:14,510 --> 00:23:15,822
OK, it's Aaron's car.
440
00:23:15,895 --> 00:23:18,706
Let's arrest him. I'm gonna push Joseph.
441
00:23:18,741 --> 00:23:20,781
- OK. Can you drive?
- Yep.
442
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,200
Don't waste my time, young man.
443
00:23:24,297 --> 00:23:27,655
Why have you been calling your mate Aaron?
444
00:23:29,153 --> 00:23:30,953
No comment.
445
00:23:32,561 --> 00:23:36,208
You've been calling him a lot, haven't you?
446
00:23:36,718 --> 00:23:39,566
I don't call my best
friend as much as that.
447
00:23:40,140 --> 00:23:43,719
You must have something you
really want to talk about.
448
00:23:44,025 --> 00:23:46,301
No... comment.
449
00:23:46,351 --> 00:23:50,059
Is that what you wanted to tell
him, that you've got no comment?
450
00:23:51,714 --> 00:23:54,220
There he is, that's Aaron.
OK, move over, move over.
451
00:23:54,255 --> 00:23:56,495
OK. Stop the car.
452
00:23:56,561 --> 00:23:57,816
OK, all right.
453
00:23:57,851 --> 00:23:59,677
Aaron, stay where you are.
454
00:23:59,743 --> 00:24:01,002
- Aaron?
- Oh, fuck.
455
00:24:01,078 --> 00:24:02,308
OK.
456
00:24:08,834 --> 00:24:11,450
OK. Aaron Matthews, I'm arresting you
457
00:24:11,485 --> 00:24:14,624
on suspicion of the attempted
murder of Victoria Summers.
458
00:24:16,049 --> 00:24:18,305
You do not have to say anything,
but it may harm your defence
459
00:24:18,340 --> 00:24:21,087
if you fail to mention the questions
that may later arise in court.
460
00:24:21,122 --> 00:24:24,482
Anything you do say may be used
in evidence. Do you understand?
461
00:24:24,517 --> 00:24:25,764
Do you understand?
462
00:24:25,837 --> 00:24:27,018
Yeah.
463
00:24:27,177 --> 00:24:28,453
OK.
464
00:24:31,393 --> 00:24:32,513
Ohh.
465
00:24:32,905 --> 00:24:35,284
Aaron and Joseph's fingerprints
are all over the car,
466
00:24:35,319 --> 00:24:36,831
but we've also got firearm residue
467
00:24:36,866 --> 00:24:39,271
over the front, particularly
in the driver's side.
468
00:24:39,306 --> 00:24:41,729
Good. That's concrete. That links this car
469
00:24:41,795 --> 00:24:43,503
to the drive-by shooting a week ago.
470
00:24:43,538 --> 00:24:46,418
Yes. Joseph Brookes was
travelling in the passenger side,
471
00:24:46,453 --> 00:24:50,013
we've got his fingerprints on the
handle, dashboard and this side.
472
00:24:50,662 --> 00:24:55,493
So then it's probably safe to say
that Aaron, driving, is the shooter.
473
00:24:57,768 --> 00:25:00,008
This is where you stand.
474
00:25:00,081 --> 00:25:03,641
We know that your car was
involved in the drive-by shooting
475
00:25:03,691 --> 00:25:06,553
that seriously wounded Victoria Summers.
476
00:25:07,690 --> 00:25:10,017
We know that whoever was driving
477
00:25:10,052 --> 00:25:11,963
- pulled the trigger.
- I didn't...
478
00:25:11,998 --> 00:25:14,311
There's gunshot residue
all over the driver's side.
479
00:25:14,346 --> 00:25:15,033
I didn't pull the trigger.
480
00:25:15,068 --> 00:25:16,329
How do you explain...
481
00:25:16,364 --> 00:25:17,822
- It was Joseph.
- Sorry?
482
00:25:17,857 --> 00:25:19,233
He was in the passenger seat.
483
00:25:19,268 --> 00:25:20,837
We went for a drive
and he leaned across me.
484
00:25:20,872 --> 00:25:21,430
Across you?
485
00:25:21,465 --> 00:25:24,551
He leaned across me and
shot her. Look, I had no idea
486
00:25:24,586 --> 00:25:28,081
he was gonna do what he did. I'd
never have gone for a drive with him
487
00:25:28,116 --> 00:25:30,122
if he was gonna do that.
488
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:31,779
What's the story with you and Joseph?
489
00:25:31,814 --> 00:25:34,822
I just wanted to be a part
of his gang, that was all.
490
00:25:34,954 --> 00:25:37,240
I was trying to impress him, I don't know.
491
00:25:37,322 --> 00:25:39,196
What happened when Joseph came
round your house this morning?
492
00:25:39,231 --> 00:25:41,584
He came round to threaten Dad.
493
00:25:41,681 --> 00:25:43,897
Dad saw us in the car on
the day of the shooting.
494
00:25:43,932 --> 00:25:46,416
Dad knew what had happened.
495
00:25:46,498 --> 00:25:51,356
My dad confronted me about it and he said,
"If you don't go to the police, I will."
496
00:25:51,430 --> 00:25:54,317
I told Joseph and he went
round to threaten my dad.
497
00:25:54,352 --> 00:25:57,176
If he said anything, he said he'd kill him.
498
00:25:57,303 --> 00:25:59,951
Did Joseph Brookes shoot
your father this morning?
499
00:26:00,044 --> 00:26:01,804
It's possible, yeah.
500
00:26:04,894 --> 00:26:09,096
It'd like to make it clear, at this
point, that I'm not here to discuss
501
00:26:09,131 --> 00:26:12,848
the case and the allegations
concerning Samuel Pearce.
502
00:26:12,882 --> 00:26:14,128
Right.
503
00:26:16,222 --> 00:26:21,813
I do, however, know that
your son was driving the car
504
00:26:22,388 --> 00:26:26,481
during the shooting incident
last week with Victoria Summers.
505
00:26:27,594 --> 00:26:29,594
Yes, yes, he was.
506
00:26:30,249 --> 00:26:34,127
- You were aware of that?
- I was aware of it, yes.
507
00:26:34,686 --> 00:26:39,913
Um... He... He was dragged into
the situation, he drove the car,
508
00:26:39,948 --> 00:26:41,908
I believe unwittingly,
509
00:26:41,985 --> 00:26:45,139
he didn't shoot anybody,
he just drove the car.
510
00:26:46,048 --> 00:26:48,048
Who did fire the gun?
511
00:26:49,152 --> 00:26:51,152
Joseph Brookes.
512
00:26:52,184 --> 00:26:58,105
I had hoped that Aaron
was going to... own up
513
00:26:58,175 --> 00:27:01,212
to his involvement in the situation.
514
00:27:01,247 --> 00:27:04,056
- Is that why you didn't tell the police?
- Yes.
515
00:27:05,208 --> 00:27:07,048
Yes.
516
00:27:07,127 --> 00:27:10,807
Are you willing to make a
statement to that effect, Reverend?
517
00:27:10,847 --> 00:27:12,340
Yes.
518
00:27:14,396 --> 00:27:16,011
OK.
519
00:27:17,422 --> 00:27:19,924
Well, it begs the question,
520
00:27:20,023 --> 00:27:22,854
was Joseph Brookes the person
that shot you, Reverend?
521
00:27:22,919 --> 00:27:24,283
No.
522
00:27:26,995 --> 00:27:31,856
You seemed so sure that you hadn't
seen the face of your attacker,
523
00:27:31,891 --> 00:27:36,720
and yet you just seemed so sure
that it wasn't Joseph Brookes.
524
00:27:36,872 --> 00:27:38,872
Who are you covering for?
525
00:27:41,619 --> 00:27:45,787
- What happened to the gun?
- I took it round to Kelly's mum's flat.
526
00:27:45,822 --> 00:27:49,501
Kelly's mum let me hide it there
in return for diazepam tablets.
527
00:27:49,651 --> 00:27:50,911
So you're a drug dealer now?
528
00:27:50,946 --> 00:27:54,898
No. My dad used to have some for
his bad back. I just took those.
529
00:27:55,016 --> 00:27:57,011
How did Kelly feel about you
keeping a gun at the flat?
530
00:27:57,046 --> 00:28:00,301
- She doesn't know. She has no idea.
- OK.
531
00:28:00,392 --> 00:28:02,772
- Where's the gun now?
- Still there, in the airing cupboard.
532
00:28:02,807 --> 00:28:05,067
Don't fuckin' lie to me.
533
00:28:05,102 --> 00:28:05,739
- Don't waste my time.
- It's there.
534
00:28:05,774 --> 00:28:09,146
I'm trying to figure out who
shot your dad. Where's the gun?
535
00:28:09,181 --> 00:28:10,696
I put it in the airing
cupboard, I haven't touched it.
536
00:28:10,731 --> 00:28:14,374
I searched that place myself. OK?
537
00:28:14,424 --> 00:28:17,808
There's no gun in there, OK? I'll
tell you why there's no gun in there.
538
00:28:17,843 --> 00:28:20,760
Because someone has
taken the gun and used it,
539
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,021
the same gun that was used
to shoot Victoria Summers,
540
00:28:23,056 --> 00:28:25,558
someone used it to shoot your dad.
541
00:28:25,593 --> 00:28:27,755
Did Aaron hide a gun in your house?
542
00:28:29,273 --> 00:28:30,870
Alma?
543
00:28:33,409 --> 00:28:36,263
- Alma?
- Yes.
544
00:28:36,825 --> 00:28:39,809
- Is it still there?
- Yeah. Yeah.
545
00:28:39,859 --> 00:28:42,908
It's in my airing cupboard.
546
00:28:43,264 --> 00:28:47,059
Right. I'm afraid, Alma,
I'm gonna have to arrest you
547
00:28:47,094 --> 00:28:48,775
for possession of a firearm.
548
00:28:48,810 --> 00:28:50,983
You don't have to say anything
that may harm your defence.
549
00:28:51,018 --> 00:28:54,204
If you do not mention, when questioned,
something which you later rely on in court,
550
00:28:54,239 --> 00:28:57,256
and anything you do say may be
given as evidence. Do you understand?
551
00:28:57,291 --> 00:28:59,919
- I just did...
- Do you understand?
552
00:29:00,460 --> 00:29:01,431
Yes.
553
00:29:06,380 --> 00:29:10,726
I've double-checked with the search team.
There's no gun at Alma and Sammy's place.
554
00:29:10,761 --> 00:29:13,368
I could've told you that. I went
through the place with a fine-toothcomb.
555
00:29:13,403 --> 00:29:14,692
Yeah.
556
00:29:15,269 --> 00:29:18,655
Listen, we know the same gun
was used for both shootings.
557
00:29:18,781 --> 00:29:21,889
OK, and for me that points the
limelight back at Joseph Brookes.
558
00:29:21,924 --> 00:29:25,046
What's to say he didn't call over to
Alma's house, take the gun himself?
559
00:29:25,081 --> 00:29:28,544
She's claiming she didn't know
him, but he's a threatening guy.
560
00:29:28,579 --> 00:29:31,526
He could have easily
intimidated her into silence.
561
00:29:31,576 --> 00:29:32,100
Mm.
562
00:29:32,135 --> 00:29:34,494
What about Kelly and her allegation?
563
00:29:34,591 --> 00:29:37,774
She's got a strong motive for
wanting to shoot the reverend,
564
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:39,601
plus we know the gun was in her house.
565
00:29:39,636 --> 00:29:41,211
She could've found it easily.
566
00:29:41,293 --> 00:29:43,004
But she's not the only one who lives there.
567
00:29:43,054 --> 00:29:44,851
But Sammy and Alma have alibied each other.
568
00:29:44,909 --> 00:29:50,220
Listen, Kelly's is the only
statement that references our reverend
569
00:29:50,255 --> 00:29:52,628
in the sexual abuse case.
570
00:29:52,663 --> 00:29:56,036
I can't keep him in. We don't
have enough evidence, guys.
571
00:29:56,372 --> 00:29:59,387
You've gotta let him
go, Jack, all right? Tsk.
572
00:30:03,657 --> 00:30:09,094
Boss? Joseph Brookes' alibi, I knew it was
bullshit, I can now prove it's bullshit.
573
00:30:09,150 --> 00:30:12,319
His girlfriend, Libby James, was at the
boxing club this morning with her son.
574
00:30:12,354 --> 00:30:13,755
Her name was on our list of witnesses.
575
00:30:13,790 --> 00:30:16,073
- Great.
- All right, well,
576
00:30:16,108 --> 00:30:19,242
let's give Joseph Brookes a chance
to clarify his statement, shall we?
577
00:30:19,277 --> 00:30:22,095
- It would be my pleasure.
- Yeah.
578
00:30:22,928 --> 00:30:25,471
So I know your alibi's rubbish,
you know your alibi's rubbish.
579
00:30:25,537 --> 00:30:29,857
You two have spoken about the fact
your alibi's rubbish. Talk to me.
580
00:30:30,758 --> 00:30:32,705
- OK, I wasn't at my girlfriend's house.
- I know that.
581
00:30:32,740 --> 00:30:36,121
I know that, Joseph. Where were you?
582
00:30:36,353 --> 00:30:40,695
- Jordan Crescent, number 24.
- Is that where you live?
583
00:30:40,730 --> 00:30:43,100
- No.
- So what were you doing there?
584
00:30:44,888 --> 00:30:49,013
- I was doing a burglary.
- You "was doing a burglary"?
585
00:30:49,063 --> 00:30:50,413
Charming.
586
00:30:50,475 --> 00:30:53,197
Yeah, I'm not proud of
it. I didn't need to do it.
587
00:30:53,247 --> 00:30:54,426
Right.
588
00:30:54,461 --> 00:30:57,989
I'm checking that out. You'll
be going back to your cell.
589
00:30:58,024 --> 00:31:00,058
Happy days. Thank you.
590
00:31:00,443 --> 00:31:02,232
Jason Brookes couldn't
have shot the reverend.
591
00:31:02,267 --> 00:31:05,243
The property he said he was
in this morning was burgled
592
00:31:05,301 --> 00:31:07,135
at the same time as the reverend was shot,
593
00:31:07,193 --> 00:31:10,223
plus Uniform have picked up the
stolen property exactly where
594
00:31:10,258 --> 00:31:14,701
he said it would be, with his fingerprints
all over it, so Joseph didn't shoot Daniel.
595
00:31:14,751 --> 00:31:16,284
Oh, Jesus.
596
00:31:16,357 --> 00:31:18,669
Who the bloody hell did?
597
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:26,637
In Victoria Summers' statement, she
said that her shooter, her attacker,
598
00:31:26,686 --> 00:31:29,153
wore this type of dark bomber jacket.
599
00:31:29,226 --> 00:31:32,211
This particular jacket was
recovered by the search team
600
00:31:32,284 --> 00:31:34,679
from Joseph Brookes' mother's address.
601
00:31:34,797 --> 00:31:37,595
So Joseph's DNA all over it,
there's gunshot residue all over it
602
00:31:37,630 --> 00:31:41,500
that surely proves that Joseph
Brookes shot Victoria Summers.
603
00:31:43,885 --> 00:31:47,681
- Weston, really?
- Boss? Boss?
604
00:31:47,716 --> 00:31:49,676
OK, hang on. Thank you.
605
00:31:49,794 --> 00:31:51,618
Uniform said they've found a weapon.
606
00:31:55,218 --> 00:31:57,205
They found the gun in that bin,
607
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,853
then our guys have lifted a really
good footprint from down there.
608
00:31:59,888 --> 00:32:00,769
Kelly's?
609
00:32:00,804 --> 00:32:04,390
Could be. Maybe she did sneak
back and shoot the reverend.
610
00:32:11,410 --> 00:32:14,332
The firearm is with the lab.
They're running fingermark analysis.
611
00:32:14,367 --> 00:32:15,431
Hopefully, when that comes back,
612
00:32:15,466 --> 00:32:19,855
- it'll tell us something, anything.
- It may well tell us nothing.
613
00:32:19,890 --> 00:32:23,903
It was probably wiped. Joseph
Brookes almost certainly wore gloves.
614
00:32:23,938 --> 00:32:27,739
The question still remains.
Who shot Reverend Matthews?
615
00:32:28,350 --> 00:32:33,430
So we've got some CCTV that puts
a whole new spin on our case.
616
00:32:33,601 --> 00:32:35,587
- OK, note the time. Jack.
- 11:40.
617
00:32:35,637 --> 00:32:37,613
- The time when the reverend was shot.
- Indeed.
618
00:32:37,679 --> 00:32:41,853
And here we have Aaron's
car, Aaron and Kelly.
619
00:32:41,888 --> 00:32:42,595
Wow.
620
00:32:42,630 --> 00:32:46,239
So, first of all, that means he
wasn't lying when he gave her an alibi.
621
00:32:46,289 --> 00:32:49,129
Secondly, she can't have shot the reverend.
622
00:32:49,649 --> 00:32:53,292
Fingermark analysis on the gun is
back. They've got a positive match.
623
00:32:54,553 --> 00:32:56,553
Don't keep me waiting. Who is it?
624
00:32:56,701 --> 00:33:01,127
Have you seen that gun before?
625
00:33:01,162 --> 00:33:04,045
Your prints are all over this, Alma.
626
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,981
Yes.
627
00:33:07,016 --> 00:33:08,794
Have you seen it?
628
00:33:10,141 --> 00:33:12,352
Have you ever used that gun?
629
00:33:12,526 --> 00:33:15,106
I just wanted to scare him.
630
00:33:17,777 --> 00:33:19,777
He raped my son.
631
00:33:20,617 --> 00:33:22,617
He raped my son.
632
00:33:25,348 --> 00:33:29,716
- And I just shot.
- What did you do then?
633
00:33:31,250 --> 00:33:33,250
Put the gun in the bin
634
00:33:34,193 --> 00:33:38,791
and went home and I took my pills.
635
00:33:38,826 --> 00:33:44,186
Did he see your face? Did he see
who was firing the gun at him?
636
00:33:44,275 --> 00:33:45,714
Yeah.
637
00:33:46,496 --> 00:33:49,081
- Are you sure?
- Yeah, he saw me.
638
00:33:52,582 --> 00:33:56,407
I mean we're not quite at the
popping the champagne cork stage
639
00:33:56,442 --> 00:33:58,383
- of the case, do you know what I mean?
- Yeah.
640
00:33:58,418 --> 00:34:02,127
- My God, we're close, Charlie.
- Boss?
641
00:34:02,167 --> 00:34:05,386
Those parents of the sick child
at the hospital got in touch.
642
00:34:05,422 --> 00:34:08,776
They said, 100 percent, Daniel
spent the night at the hospital.
643
00:34:08,811 --> 00:34:10,551
He didn't spend it at the campsite.
644
00:34:10,586 --> 00:34:14,388
The truth exonerates him. He couldn't
have raped Sammy, but why's he lying?
645
00:34:14,446 --> 00:34:17,479
The same reason he lied about
the Victoria Summers shooting.
646
00:34:17,557 --> 00:34:18,635
He doesn't want us to know Aaron
647
00:34:18,670 --> 00:34:20,872
had a chance to be alone
with Sammy at the campsite.
648
00:34:20,953 --> 00:34:22,492
OK, bring in the reverend
649
00:34:22,527 --> 00:34:26,804
on what we have, which is
aiding and abetting, OK?
650
00:34:35,858 --> 00:34:39,086
I'm arresting you for aiding and
abetting. You don't have to say anything.
651
00:34:39,121 --> 00:34:39,659
It may harm your defence
652
00:34:39,694 --> 00:34:42,604
if you say something later used
in court. Anything you do say
653
00:34:42,639 --> 00:34:45,756
- may be used in evidence. Understand?
- Yes.
654
00:34:45,799 --> 00:34:47,815
I've told you everything.
655
00:34:47,862 --> 00:34:49,805
- You can cover for your paedophile son?
- No.
656
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,261
Taking your reverend for a chat.
657
00:34:51,312 --> 00:34:54,085
- I'm ashamed of nothing.
- Why were you breaking this up?
658
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,228
Tech have been through Aaron's laptop.
659
00:34:56,263 --> 00:35:00,643
There's a whole file full of
images and photographs of children.
660
00:35:00,784 --> 00:35:03,086
It seems he was taking pictures of the kids
661
00:35:03,121 --> 00:35:05,375
in the showers at the boxing club.
662
00:35:06,609 --> 00:35:08,306
Thanks, Charlie.
663
00:35:08,986 --> 00:35:13,445
To be honest, I think the reverend knew
exactly what his little boy was up to,
664
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:17,429
and for some time, too. Otherwise why
would he try to knacker that laptop?
665
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,897
Why has your dad refused to tell us,
666
00:35:22,022 --> 00:35:25,556
point-blank refused to
tell us, who shot him?
667
00:35:25,678 --> 00:35:28,254
Perhaps he doesn't know. I mean
the only person I can think who
668
00:35:28,319 --> 00:35:31,105
actually would wanna do it is maybe
669
00:35:31,140 --> 00:35:33,377
somebody who heard the
allegations that were going round?
670
00:35:33,412 --> 00:35:36,707
I mean Kelly was telling
so many people about it,
671
00:35:36,749 --> 00:35:39,935
word got round maybe and
that's why they shot him.
672
00:35:40,071 --> 00:35:41,344
Right.
673
00:35:41,581 --> 00:35:45,015
And you said that there's all these
allegations around that your dad
674
00:35:45,050 --> 00:35:48,656
was a paedophile, but in
fact it was you who told Kelly
675
00:35:48,691 --> 00:35:51,248
that your dad was a paedophile, didn't you?
676
00:35:52,048 --> 00:35:55,124
- No, I never said that.
- According to Kelly you did.
677
00:35:55,159 --> 00:35:57,635
Yeah, I told you about Kelly.
678
00:35:57,670 --> 00:36:01,428
According to Kelly, Sammy
told you that he was abused,
679
00:36:01,502 --> 00:36:05,523
- sexually abused, by your dad.
- I've never said that.
680
00:36:05,558 --> 00:36:07,421
I've never said my dad was a paedophile.
681
00:36:07,456 --> 00:36:11,096
- Why did she say that, then?
- I've no idea.
682
00:36:11,131 --> 00:36:14,051
Was it anything to do with, um...
683
00:36:14,704 --> 00:36:16,279
...to do with this?
684
00:36:18,482 --> 00:36:20,960
I've placed the laptop on the table.
685
00:36:23,079 --> 00:36:25,079
Who owns the laptop?
686
00:36:26,358 --> 00:36:28,394
Who owns the laptop?
687
00:36:29,242 --> 00:36:30,273
It's my laptop.
688
00:36:30,308 --> 00:36:31,455
- Yeah?
- Hm.
689
00:36:31,528 --> 00:36:32,790
OK.
690
00:36:33,074 --> 00:36:34,876
Do you wanna know what we found in it?
691
00:36:36,038 --> 00:36:39,724
You haven't seen this before, so I
apologise for shocking you this way.
692
00:36:39,759 --> 00:36:43,490
I know you're not gonna be shocked because
I know you've seen these countless times.
693
00:36:43,538 --> 00:36:47,949
These are images, images
of naked eight-year-old boys
694
00:36:47,984 --> 00:36:51,024
taken from the boxing club. OK?
695
00:36:51,069 --> 00:36:53,202
Do you wanna know how
they got on your laptop?
696
00:36:54,570 --> 00:36:56,570
Tell us about the photos, Aaron?
697
00:36:59,345 --> 00:37:01,874
You need to explain this to us, my friend.
698
00:37:01,980 --> 00:37:04,540
My dad caught me
699
00:37:05,028 --> 00:37:07,868
taking pictures of the boys
in the shower at the gym.
700
00:37:11,527 --> 00:37:15,089
I said it'll never happen again.
701
00:37:15,777 --> 00:37:18,159
I really hoped it wouldn't happen again.
702
00:37:18,213 --> 00:37:19,870
Did it happen again?
703
00:37:23,645 --> 00:37:25,805
I just couldn't help it.
704
00:37:25,884 --> 00:37:28,340
It wasn't my fault, I
just couldn't help it.
705
00:37:28,375 --> 00:37:31,415
- You couldn't help taking those pictures?
- Yeah. I just couldn't...
706
00:37:31,511 --> 00:37:33,494
And looking at them?
707
00:37:33,572 --> 00:37:36,247
Then acting on them. What
happened on the camping trip?
708
00:37:37,402 --> 00:37:41,454
Your dad was at the hospital, we
know he wasn't there. You tell us.
709
00:37:43,288 --> 00:37:46,457
Did you rape Samuel Pearce?
710
00:37:47,586 --> 00:37:49,967
Samuel went to sleep in my tent.
711
00:37:50,619 --> 00:37:52,882
He'd had a nightmare.
712
00:37:52,935 --> 00:37:55,648
That's what happens with Sammy, he gets...
713
00:37:55,706 --> 00:37:56,404
No, no, no.
714
00:37:56,439 --> 00:38:00,164
No, no, stop there. Did
you rape Samuel Pearce?
715
00:38:00,199 --> 00:38:03,590
I didn't... I just couldn't help it.
716
00:38:06,648 --> 00:38:08,922
I couldn't do anything about it.
717
00:38:09,042 --> 00:38:12,865
So you did sexually abuse Samuel Pearce?
718
00:38:13,336 --> 00:38:16,194
What happened, it just happened.
719
00:38:16,823 --> 00:38:20,115
- It...
- Aaron, Aaron?
720
00:38:20,861 --> 00:38:22,848
You're not doing yourself any favours here
721
00:38:22,951 --> 00:38:24,667
by trying to come across as the meek,
722
00:38:24,702 --> 00:38:27,539
weak, guilty individual.
Answer the question.
723
00:38:27,574 --> 00:38:29,712
Did you rape Samuel Pearce, just yes or no?
724
00:38:29,747 --> 00:38:31,631
- Yes or no, yes or no...
- I couldn't help it.
725
00:38:31,666 --> 00:38:33,307
Yes or no?
726
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,168
Yes.
727
00:38:35,481 --> 00:38:39,907
Just tell me one thing. Why
did you... Why did you say
728
00:38:39,981 --> 00:38:42,323
that your dad was a paedophile?
729
00:38:42,373 --> 00:38:45,356
How did that get you off
the hook, out of interest?
730
00:38:45,403 --> 00:38:51,427
He knew I was driving the car
when Joseph shot Victoria Summers.
731
00:38:51,809 --> 00:38:53,966
He was onto me about it.
He gave me an ultimatum.
732
00:38:54,001 --> 00:38:58,231
He said, "If you don't tell the
police, I'm going to the police."
733
00:38:59,418 --> 00:39:02,553
I thought... I thought maybe if
I made something up about him,
734
00:39:02,588 --> 00:39:05,707
if I made a story up, he'd forget about it
735
00:39:05,742 --> 00:39:09,241
and that'd take his mind off it.
736
00:39:11,310 --> 00:39:13,748
How can you live with yourself?
737
00:39:16,051 --> 00:39:19,287
All that shit about "I couldn't help
myself, I tried really, really hard,"
738
00:39:19,322 --> 00:39:21,421
I thought I was gonna puke.
739
00:39:21,456 --> 00:39:25,352
- It doesn't get any easier.
- I just spoke to Child Protection.
740
00:39:25,402 --> 00:39:27,103
Now Aaron's been arrested, Sammy told them
741
00:39:27,138 --> 00:39:29,458
that Aaron threatened
to kill Alma and Kelly
742
00:39:29,493 --> 00:39:33,247
if he said anything. He's
just absolutely terrified.
743
00:39:33,312 --> 00:39:35,666
It was Aaron who told him
to burn all his clothes.
744
00:39:35,757 --> 00:39:37,090
Pfft!
745
00:39:37,233 --> 00:39:40,793
- Another great day in the office.
- Yeah, right.
746
00:39:40,951 --> 00:39:42,636
Why did you lie?
747
00:39:44,761 --> 00:39:51,512
I was trying to help my son. I
didn't know what my son had done.
748
00:39:51,547 --> 00:39:54,430
I knew he'd done
something, I wasn't aware...
749
00:39:54,465 --> 00:39:58,406
That's bullshit, otherwise you would've
told us that it was Alma that shot you.
750
00:39:58,441 --> 00:40:02,429
The reason you didn't tell us it
was Alma is because she is the mother
751
00:40:02,464 --> 00:40:06,640
of the young, innocent boy who was raped
752
00:40:06,675 --> 00:40:10,182
by your son, by your flesh and
blood. That's why you didn't tell us.
753
00:40:10,232 --> 00:40:14,618
- I was just trying to help him.
- You should be bloody ashamed of yourself.
754
00:40:14,653 --> 00:40:18,070
- I am ashamed of myself.
- Really?
755
00:40:18,105 --> 00:40:21,180
Really, I am deeply ashamed of myself.
756
00:40:21,215 --> 00:40:23,626
I am deeply ashamed of my son
757
00:40:23,661 --> 00:40:27,037
and the pain and hurt that he has caused.
758
00:40:27,088 --> 00:40:30,240
I thought this was a
situation that would go away,
759
00:40:30,275 --> 00:40:32,512
I tried to address it in
the best way that I could,
760
00:40:32,547 --> 00:40:36,743
- and I obviously failed.
- I think you're a disgrace,
761
00:40:36,877 --> 00:40:40,919
not only to your community
but to your religion at large.
762
00:40:41,521 --> 00:40:44,757
OK, you're already under arrest for
aiding and abetting a sexual offender.
763
00:40:44,792 --> 00:40:48,188
I am now arresting you for
perverting the course of justice.
764
00:40:48,274 --> 00:40:50,623
Again, you do not have to say anything,
765
00:40:50,658 --> 00:40:52,772
though it may harm your defence if
you fail to mention, when questioned,
766
00:40:52,807 --> 00:40:54,620
something you later rely on in court.
767
00:40:54,655 --> 00:40:58,036
Anything you do say may be
used against you. Understand?
768
00:40:58,071 --> 00:40:59,352
Yes.
769
00:41:00,595 --> 00:41:02,188
I think we're done.
770
00:41:04,707 --> 00:41:08,198
- Kelly, there's been some changes.
- What kind of changes?
771
00:41:08,233 --> 00:41:11,229
We have had a confession from...
772
00:41:11,302 --> 00:41:13,080
Aaron Matthews.
773
00:41:13,203 --> 00:41:16,113
- Saying what?
- Confessing to...
774
00:41:16,148 --> 00:41:18,788
...abusing your brother Sammy.
775
00:41:18,823 --> 00:41:22,338
That's fuckin' bullshit. I can't
believe you're actually telling me
776
00:41:22,388 --> 00:41:26,816
that you believe that my boyfriend
would do that? Are you serious?
777
00:41:26,851 --> 00:41:30,862
Kelly, Sammy has said that
he was just very scared and...
778
00:41:30,897 --> 00:41:31,954
Sammy has said that?
779
00:41:32,027 --> 00:41:35,495
- Sammy felt he couldn't...
- I don't know.
780
00:41:35,530 --> 00:41:38,986
...tell the truth and he was a
scared little boy. It's often the way.
781
00:41:39,021 --> 00:41:42,716
No. No, no, no, no. That's... No. That...
782
00:41:43,744 --> 00:41:45,208
No...
783
00:41:45,289 --> 00:41:47,261
I wanna make sure that you see your family
784
00:41:47,296 --> 00:41:52,099
and we will make
provisions for your release.
785
00:42:07,639 --> 00:42:11,651
We interviewed Aaron Matthews.
786
00:42:12,830 --> 00:42:18,853
He has... confessed to the
sexual abuse of your son.
787
00:42:18,996 --> 00:42:22,259
Sammy said it's... it's Daniel.
788
00:42:23,707 --> 00:42:27,753
Well, it's come out that Sammy
was scared, he was threatened,
789
00:42:27,788 --> 00:42:36,537
and he felt unable to
talk about this, Alma.
790
00:42:37,015 --> 00:42:39,015
I shot the wrong man.
791
00:42:56,476 --> 00:43:00,446
The worst part of it is, is that if
Rev Matthews had reported his son,
792
00:43:00,481 --> 00:43:03,319
Aaron, for taking those
images of the boxing club kids,
793
00:43:03,354 --> 00:43:06,275
then Aaron probably wouldn't
have gone on to rape Sammy.
794
00:43:06,364 --> 00:43:09,705
They say parents would do
anything for their kids, right?
795
00:43:09,824 --> 00:43:12,649
Do you know, I think
that's bullshit, actually.
796
00:43:12,684 --> 00:43:18,122
I think that the reverend was just
looking out for his own reputation.
797
00:43:18,157 --> 00:43:24,069
I don't think he gave a damn
about his son, I really don't.
798
00:43:24,856 --> 00:43:27,575
Now, can we fuel the rumour
that I'm an alcoholic?
799
00:43:27,610 --> 00:43:30,129
Could somebody buy me a fucking drink?
800
00:43:31,061 --> 00:43:32,744
I think Jack started that rumour.
801
00:43:32,779 --> 00:43:35,339
Come on, I need drinking buddies. Come on.
802
00:43:35,688 --> 00:43:37,350
_
803
00:43:37,385 --> 00:43:41,695
Bessie Walker, 65, widow.
Ambulance called just before noon
804
00:43:41,730 --> 00:43:43,778
from a telephone box in Wadsworth Street.
805
00:43:43,867 --> 00:43:46,685
That moped is licensed to a Mario Baber.
806
00:43:49,086 --> 00:43:52,953
I'm arresting you on suspicion
of GBH and a burglary this morning
807
00:43:52,988 --> 00:43:54,103
at Suttonfields Estate.
808
00:43:54,138 --> 00:43:58,136
I pop round to see her every so often.
I look out for her, make sure she's OK.
809
00:43:58,270 --> 00:44:02,550
Betty had £10,000 in cash in a
locked room... and it's all gone.
810
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:06,007
- Am I under arrest?
- Not yet.
811
00:44:06,042 --> 00:44:09,073
I'm not under arrest though,
am I?! I'm not under arrest.
812
00:44:09,108 --> 00:44:10,325
See you later.
813
00:44:10,376 --> 00:44:12,776
When was the last time
that you saw your mum?
814
00:44:12,905 --> 00:44:15,261
What, you think I went round
there and smashed my mum in?
815
00:44:15,373 --> 00:44:17,373
Mark, why did you go to prison?
816
00:44:19,654 --> 00:44:20,687
Burglary.
817
00:44:20,722 --> 00:44:23,202
We called down before. Thank you.
818
00:44:25,053 --> 00:44:27,145
- Jack, Jack, Jack?
- Yep.
819
00:44:28,696 --> 00:44:33,696
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