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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:16,700 Congratulations, Mr. President. 2 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:18,100 Just the beginnin, Bob. 3 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:21,900 Sir! Mr. President, over here, please. 4 00:01:22,100 --> 00:01:23,000 Thank you. 5 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:27,700 She is pretty. 6 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:28,700 Havin a good time, George? 7 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:30,400 Great night, Mr. President. 8 00:01:32,700 --> 00:01:33,800 What a night. 9 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:43,200 Senator Dirksen, 10 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:44,600 the President would be delighted 11 00:02:44,700 --> 00:02:47,000 if you'd join him in the Oval Office after the ball. 12 00:02:47,100 --> 00:02:48,000 I will. 13 00:03:21,100 --> 00:03:24,200 One thing I can say about the Great Society: 14 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:26,000 it sure is crowded! 15 00:03:30,300 --> 00:03:32,200 Up all night writing this one, Dick? 16 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,200 Uh, this is one speech I'll gladly disavow. 17 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:38,900 Got a clippin here. 18 00:03:39,100 --> 00:03:42,900 Quotes my honorable defeated opponent, Senator Goldwater. 19 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:48,300 Calls my Secretary of Defense an IBM machine with legs! 20 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,400 Outrageous! 21 00:04:05,300 --> 00:04:07,900 Now, I stand here tonight to tell you this, 22 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,400 that I regard Bob McNamara here 23 00:04:10,500 --> 00:04:12,700 as not only one of the smartest 24 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,500 but one of the most humane men I know. 25 00:04:16,700 --> 00:04:17,700 Right here. 26 00:04:24,700 --> 00:04:26,600 And that goes for all my blue ribbon men 27 00:04:26,700 --> 00:04:28,300 you see here tonight. 28 00:04:29,300 --> 00:04:31,100 Never in our history 29 00:04:31,300 --> 00:04:34,700 has there been such an abundance of brain and talent, 30 00:04:34,900 --> 00:04:37,800 why I've got three our four Rhodes scholars, 31 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,600 four or five graduates of Harvard, 32 00:04:40,700 --> 00:04:43,300 a couple from Yale, and why, 33 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:45,200 there's even one here tonight 34 00:04:45,300 --> 00:04:48,700 from Southwest Texas State Teachers College! 35 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:00,700 And don't you know, that one rules the roost! 36 00:05:38,900 --> 00:05:39,800 Thank you. 37 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:07,900 Watch broken, Jack? 38 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:09,000 Timin it. 39 00:06:09,100 --> 00:06:09,900 Timin what? 40 00:06:10,100 --> 00:06:12,600 The applause. He'll ask. 41 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:25,400 In a land of great wealth, 42 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:31,000 families must not live in hopeless poverty. 43 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,000 In a land rich in harvest, 44 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:38,200 children just must not go hungry. 45 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,900 In a land of healing miracles, 46 00:06:42,100 --> 00:06:46,600 neighbors must not suffer and die unattended. 47 00:06:46,700 --> 00:06:51,100 In a great land of learning and scholars, 48 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:54,700 young people must be taught to read and write. 49 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:56,800 A bit more volume, please, Mr. President. 50 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,800 I want to hear every brilliant word 51 00:06:59,900 --> 00:07:02,700 that Dick Goodwin wrote for your marvelous speech. 52 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,200 Goodwin!? Who told you Goodwin wrote that speech? 53 00:07:05,300 --> 00:07:07,000 A dozen people work on my speeches, 54 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:08,500 and nobody more than I do. 55 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,400 Why Jack here's been writin some of my best stuff for seven years. 56 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,200 My penance for marryin away his last secretary. 57 00:07:14,300 --> 00:07:15,900 But, thank you for the credit, Mr. President. 58 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:17,000 All right, good night, Jack. 59 00:07:17,100 --> 00:07:18,100 Good night, Mr. President. 60 00:07:18,300 --> 00:07:18,900 Good night, Senator. 61 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:20,300 Good night, Jack. 62 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,200 Yeah, Goodwin wrote maybe a word or two. 63 00:07:28,300 --> 00:07:30,800 Mhm. Great being one. 64 00:07:30,900 --> 00:07:32,200 Society the other. 65 00:07:32,300 --> 00:07:34,500 Smart sonovabitch got that out of a book. 66 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,700 Now, listen to me, Ev and listen well. 67 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:39,600 You're a good friend, 68 00:07:39,700 --> 00:07:41,800 I don't want to see you retire prematurely. 69 00:07:41,900 --> 00:07:44,100 But as this reception plainly shows you, 70 00:07:44,300 --> 00:07:46,000 the American people ain't gonna stand for you 71 00:07:46,100 --> 00:07:48,400 fellahs in the other side of the isle draggin your feet 72 00:07:48,500 --> 00:07:50,100 in any of my programs. 73 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:52,300 Now, FDR passed a handful of bills 74 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:53,600 in his first hundred days. 75 00:07:53,700 --> 00:07:55,300 I'm gonna pass a bucketful. 76 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,500 Poverty, education, healthcare. 77 00:07:57,700 --> 00:07:59,900 I'm gonna finish what I started on Civil Rights, too. 78 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,800 I'm tellin ya, Jim Crow put a collar on more smart men, 79 00:08:02,900 --> 00:08:05,200 sure as they were sentenced to an Illinois chain gang. 80 00:08:05,300 --> 00:08:07,500 Whoa-whoa-whoa. I take offense, sir. 81 00:08:07,700 --> 00:08:10,000 We are most humane to our condemned. 82 00:08:10,100 --> 00:08:12,200 The Great Society is my beautiful woman, Ev, 83 00:08:12,300 --> 00:08:14,100 and I'm takin her by the arm. 84 00:08:14,300 --> 00:08:16,700 And as the greatest republican leader in this century, 85 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:18,900 Edward Dirksen's gonna take her by the other 86 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,400 and help me escort that lady home. 87 00:08:22,100 --> 00:08:26,300 Yes, and knowing what is likely thence to ensue, Mr. President, 88 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,500 that is where I shall take my leave. 89 00:08:28,700 --> 00:08:30,700 Lyndon, I apologize for interruptin, 90 00:08:30,900 --> 00:08:32,700 I thought perhaps you'd like some sandwiches 91 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:34,100 from the kitchen. 92 00:08:34,300 --> 00:08:38,100 Mrs. Johnson, my most abject apology. 93 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,100 I have kept your husband far too long 94 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:41,900 on this most festive occasion. 95 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:43,200 No. 96 00:08:44,300 --> 00:08:48,200 Mr. President, my heartfelt congratulations, sir. 97 00:08:48,300 --> 00:08:49,300 Outta here. 98 00:08:51,500 --> 00:08:53,100 Good night. Good night. 99 00:08:53,200 --> 00:09:01,900 ...in abundance of what we'e learned from heartache. 100 00:09:02,100 --> 00:09:05,000 Democracy rests upon the people. 101 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:09,300 Freedom is a gift, 102 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,400 the judgment is God's... 103 00:09:11,500 --> 00:09:13,500 It was a wonderful speech. 104 00:09:13,900 --> 00:09:15,800 Full of such hope and promise. 105 00:09:16,300 --> 00:09:17,400 Dick Goodwin asked what I thought 106 00:09:17,500 --> 00:09:20,000 and I told him it was a magnificent job. 107 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:23,600 And you delivered it so very well. 108 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,000 Thank you, honey. Yes, you did 109 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:42,300 Nine p.m. unless you hear from me. 110 00:09:55,700 --> 00:09:57,200 Good morning. How are you? 111 00:09:57,800 --> 00:09:59,300 Yes, thank you Good morning. 112 00:09:59,900 --> 00:10:01,000 Good morning. 113 00:10:01,100 --> 00:10:02,800 Good morning, Mr. Secretary. 114 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:05,500 What have we got here? A crisis in every capital? 115 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:07,400 Uh, just one. 116 00:10:09,100 --> 00:10:10,600 This is one cable? 117 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:11,800 Not quite. 118 00:10:13,500 --> 00:10:14,700 Here's the rest of it. 119 00:10:21,900 --> 00:10:24,600 The situation in Viet Nam is continuing to deteriorate, 120 00:10:24,700 --> 00:10:26,400 we've been able to keep the noise level down 121 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:27,800 since your campaign but 122 00:10:27,900 --> 00:10:30,400 my guess is you'll be faced with a tough decision soon. 123 00:10:30,500 --> 00:10:33,000 How soon? I've got 19 million older folks 124 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:34,400 can't see a doctor, 125 00:10:34,500 --> 00:10:36,600 33 million under the poverty line, 126 00:10:36,700 --> 00:10:38,800 I can't have Congress distracted. 127 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:42,700 Now how soon, Bob? 128 00:10:44,100 --> 00:10:45,700 Very soon, Mr. President. 129 00:10:46,500 --> 00:10:47,800 I hate to have to report this to you, 130 00:10:47,900 --> 00:10:49,700 but Max Taylor says here that 131 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,700 Vietcong enlistment is increasing rapidly 132 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,300 and that uh, Saigon can't continue must longer 133 00:10:55,500 --> 00:10:57,400 to provide security for our advisors down there 134 00:10:57,500 --> 00:10:59,500 and fight an insurgency at the same time. 135 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:00,100 Why not? 136 00:11:00,300 --> 00:11:02,600 How many men does South Vietnam have out there fightin ? 137 00:11:02,700 --> 00:11:05,200 Two hundred thousand. VC have about thirtyfour thousand. 138 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:07,000 Well, how the hell can thirty-four thousand 139 00:11:07,100 --> 00:11:08,100 lick two hundred thousand? 140 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,400 Well, historically a ten to one ratio minimum is required 141 00:11:10,500 --> 00:11:12,800 for a guerrilla situation and there's no way 142 00:11:12,900 --> 00:11:14,700 that South Vietnam can achieve that on their own. 143 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:18,200 Now, we've kept our powder dry through the elections and holidays 144 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:19,900 waiting for some stability in the South, 145 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:21,600 waiting for the cycle of coups to end, 146 00:11:21,700 --> 00:11:23,100 during which we've had five killed 147 00:11:23,300 --> 00:11:24,600 in the attack at Bien Hoa, 148 00:11:24,700 --> 00:11:27,300 two at our Saigon officers quarters and scores wounded 149 00:11:27,500 --> 00:11:29,700 with no retaliation from us whatsoever. 150 00:11:29,900 --> 00:11:31,300 Now, Wheeler, the other Chiefs, 151 00:11:31,500 --> 00:11:33,300 Westmoreland are fit to be tied, 152 00:11:33,500 --> 00:11:36,300 as you know, and now this from Ambassador Taylor. 153 00:11:39,300 --> 00:11:41,600 You might send Mac Bundy to Saigon to have a talk with him, 154 00:11:41,700 --> 00:11:42,700 I'd make another trip myself, 155 00:11:42,900 --> 00:11:45,000 but I'm in the middle of the defense budget right now. 156 00:11:45,100 --> 00:11:48,000 I don't want to see the word Vietnam in that damn budget. 157 00:11:49,900 --> 00:11:51,500 You know I'd do that if I could. In fact, 158 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:53,700 it's becoming increasingly difficult to conceal-- 159 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:57,000 Bob, all I want to know is this: 160 00:11:57,100 --> 00:11:59,300 What's it gonna take to get Ho Chi Minh to quit? 161 00:11:59,500 --> 00:12:00,900 That's all I wanna know. 162 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,700 Mr. President, it's clear to me now that the answer 163 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:09,000 is sustained military action in the air 164 00:12:09,100 --> 00:12:13,100 and if that doesn't work on the ground. 165 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,500 This is the decision you are going to have to face, 166 00:12:16,700 --> 00:12:21,000 Mr. President and as I said, very soon I'm afraid. 167 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:26,400 Keep me up to date, Bob. 168 00:12:29,300 --> 00:12:30,900 Turn that thing off. Yes, sir. 169 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:32,200 This Medicare speech is shit. 170 00:12:32,300 --> 00:12:34,100 Cut out the gobbledygook and sex it up. 171 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:35,400 Maybe Goodwin aughta take a crack at it. 172 00:12:35,500 --> 00:12:37,200 Goodwin's got three months of assignments. 173 00:12:37,300 --> 00:12:38,700 Oh, I just put the last of those on your desk, Mr. President. 174 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:40,800 I'd be glad to look it over 175 00:12:40,900 --> 00:12:42,700 if you'd like me to. All right. 176 00:12:42,900 --> 00:12:44,400 Put the music to it, Dick. 177 00:12:50,100 --> 00:12:52,900 Jack, I want you to tell him to stop taking credit 178 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:54,400 for every goddamn word I say. 179 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:55,700 Absolutely, Mr. President. 180 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:56,600 All right. 181 00:12:57,100 --> 00:12:59,300 Come on, out you go. 182 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:05,800 Schedule me a hair cut. 183 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:06,600 Surely. 184 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,400 And see if you can get Clark Clifford here for dinner. 185 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:16,700 Converting from Protestant to Catholic is a big step. 186 00:13:17,700 --> 00:13:20,000 Actually Lyndon took it better than I did. 187 00:13:20,500 --> 00:13:21,800 I was quite surprised. 188 00:13:21,900 --> 00:13:23,600 Well, both you and Daddy changed your religions. 189 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,000 From one Protestant denomination to another. 190 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,000 It was a matter of convenience, and schoolin and 191 00:13:28,100 --> 00:13:29,900 I don't think religion should be a matter of convenience. 192 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,000 And this is a private matter, Luci. 193 00:13:32,100 --> 00:13:34,500 You're finishing up at Texas, aren't you, Lynda? 194 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:35,400 Next year, Ma am. 195 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:37,000 She's dating George Hamilton, you know. 196 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:37,800 The actor? 197 00:13:37,900 --> 00:13:38,600 Yes. 198 00:13:38,700 --> 00:13:39,300 With the tan? 199 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:42,000 And your sister may consider that a private matter, too. 200 00:13:42,100 --> 00:13:44,000 Oh, mother, you must be joking. 201 00:13:46,900 --> 00:13:49,400 Come on now, damn it, what's the reason this time? 202 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,400 I don't have the qualifications to be CIA director. 203 00:13:52,500 --> 00:13:54,000 I decide the qualifications. 204 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,800 You had all the qualifications to be Attorney General, didn't ya, 205 00:13:56,900 --> 00:13:58,400 to succeed Bobby Kennedy. 206 00:13:58,500 --> 00:13:59,600 Yeah. 207 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,400 Yeah, and here I am stuck with a friend of his, Katzenbach. 208 00:14:02,500 --> 00:14:03,600 He's excellent. 209 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,900 Ah, well all right you told me your interest is foreign affairs. 210 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,200 Well, that's where I need your help, foreign affairs. 211 00:14:09,300 --> 00:14:11,400 What is CIA but foreign affairs? 212 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,900 I think my skills would better serve you in foreign policy, 213 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:18,200 Mr. President, not foreign intrigue. 214 00:14:18,700 --> 00:14:21,400 I hear you billed a million dollars last year, 215 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:23,800 First lawyer in the country to do that. True? 216 00:14:23,900 --> 00:14:26,200 Well, that's what five percent came to. 217 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:31,200 Well then, you can afford to take a hiatus from all this money-makin, 218 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:32,700 come serve your president. 219 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:35,700 I don't think you need an attorney, old friend. 220 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:37,500 I think you need a magician. 221 00:14:38,300 --> 00:14:39,100 A magician? 222 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:42,100 Yes. Someone who can make a small corner of 223 00:14:42,300 --> 00:14:44,600 Southeast Asia disappear. 224 00:14:44,700 --> 00:14:47,400 President Kennedy did not lose South Vietnam 225 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:49,300 and I'm not gonna lose South Vietnam. 226 00:14:49,500 --> 00:14:51,400 I kept all these people on, they assured me, 227 00:14:51,500 --> 00:14:53,000 told me to stick it out. 228 00:14:53,700 --> 00:14:56,700 Now, that little sonovabitch Bobby is just hovering 229 00:14:56,900 --> 00:14:59,000 to swoop down and reclaim the mantle if I fail. 230 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:01,500 He'll hang me from my left ball, 231 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:02,900 Goldwater hang me from my right. 232 00:15:03,100 --> 00:15:05,100 That is complete nonsense. 233 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,700 You humiliated Goldwater in the election. 234 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:10,500 The entire Right wing is in disarray, 235 00:15:10,700 --> 00:15:13,300 Bobby is a freshman Senator with no record. 236 00:15:13,500 --> 00:15:15,300 His brother was a no record Senator too, wasn't he, 237 00:15:15,500 --> 00:15:16,700 when he came out of no where? 238 00:15:19,100 --> 00:15:20,300 Daddy? 239 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:22,800 Would you like some desert or are you on your diet? 240 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,700 Oh, now, now, you save some for me if it's good. 241 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:27,100 How about you, Mr. Clifford? No, thank you. 242 00:15:27,300 --> 00:15:28,500 No, he's not gettin anything tonight. 243 00:15:34,500 --> 00:15:40,200 Now, Jack Kennedy put sixteen thousand advisers in there, 244 00:15:40,900 --> 00:15:42,000 I put in another eight. 245 00:15:42,100 --> 00:15:43,700 We've got twentyfour thousand men 246 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:46,200 teachin them people how to shoot and fly planes. 247 00:15:46,300 --> 00:15:48,300 We've got patrols and covert operations, 248 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:50,300 we've got an alphabet soup of aid programs, 249 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:52,600 a lot of which I'd like to have right here 250 00:15:52,700 --> 00:15:54,500 and none of it's workin 251 00:15:54,700 --> 00:15:55,900 because with all this coup shit 252 00:15:56,100 --> 00:15:57,800 it's like buildin bricks with no mortar down there, 253 00:15:57,900 --> 00:16:00,300 there's nothin real to hang it all on. 254 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,300 Now, Ho Chi Minh knows this 255 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:06,200 and he's gonna keep his people attackin until there's nothin left. 256 00:16:06,300 --> 00:16:08,600 Now, if we call it quits and continue as we are, 257 00:16:08,700 --> 00:16:11,100 South Vietnam, maybe the whole of Southeast 258 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:12,200 Asia goes communist. 259 00:16:12,300 --> 00:16:15,500 Eh-eh, now even George all admits that. 260 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,300 Everybody else thinks we aught to up the ante. 261 00:16:18,500 --> 00:16:19,700 Bombing? 262 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:23,800 Look at this. 263 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,400 A bunch of sheds, just outside on the water. 264 00:16:31,500 --> 00:16:33,600 And they call that a military target. 265 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:35,500 There's school right up the street, 266 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:36,800 Poles built it for em. 267 00:16:36,900 --> 00:16:40,300 Hell, Clark, I could build em a thousand damn schools. 268 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:46,200 I'd like you to start to follow the situation down there, 269 00:16:46,300 --> 00:16:48,800 read some of these reports they keep throwin at me. 270 00:16:48,900 --> 00:16:52,400 Eh, I just don't know what to believe any more biggest damn mess. 271 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:55,600 And bein on the outside you could take a fresh look. 272 00:16:56,900 --> 00:16:58,400 I'll do everything I can to help. 273 00:16:58,500 --> 00:17:00,300 Yeah, except come work for me. 274 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:02,600 Hey, what about the Supreme Court, 275 00:17:02,700 --> 00:17:03,700 what if a seat opens up? 276 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,400 I'm an advocate, I'm not a judge. 277 00:17:06,900 --> 00:17:09,600 Hell, Clark, you're a hick lawyer from Missouri. 278 00:17:09,700 --> 00:17:11,800 Well, I may be a hick lawyer from Missouri, 279 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:13,800 But as you yourself pointed out I haven't made 280 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,700 Missouri wages for a long, long time. 281 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:19,800 You know, 282 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:24,000 I ran sayin I was for peace, now sure as hell, 283 00:17:24,100 --> 00:17:27,000 they're tellin me I gotta do what I said I wasn't gonna do. 284 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:29,600 What Goldwater was gonna do. 285 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:41,300 Luci's converting to Catholicism. 286 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:43,100 Big decision for a young girl. 287 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:47,000 He told me. He said when the press gets wind 288 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:48,700 they'll make it sound as if she did it 289 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:50,600 as a tribute to the Kennedy's. 290 00:17:52,100 --> 00:17:54,700 I swear I think he was only half joking. 291 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:01,500 Clark? 292 00:18:20,500 --> 00:18:24,200 Hello? I'm sorry, he's asleep. 293 00:18:24,300 --> 00:18:25,300 He just got over neumonia, 294 00:18:25,500 --> 00:18:27,000 I'd rather not wake him. 295 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,900 I... I know, is it possible... 296 00:18:31,100 --> 00:18:32,000 Marg? 297 00:18:35,900 --> 00:18:38,500 Sorry, Bob, must be pretty damn bad to keep you at home. 298 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:40,300 Let's just call it the Hanoi flu. 299 00:18:40,700 --> 00:18:41,700 What the hell's goin on here? 300 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:42,600 General. 301 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:44,700 Corps Head Quarters at Pleiku. 302 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:46,500 Vietcong cut through the wire, 303 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:47,900 blew up our advisers barracks, 304 00:18:48,100 --> 00:18:50,800 planes and choppers on the runway and Camp Holloway. 305 00:18:50,900 --> 00:18:52,300 Casualty report. More of the same, 306 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,700 advisers compound next door. 307 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:56,900 VC got in with mortar and grenade launchers. 308 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,100 There are eight dead, a hundred and twenty plus wounded, 309 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,600 six choppers, one transport destroyed other aircraft severely damaged. 310 00:19:01,700 --> 00:19:03,900 Mr. Secretary? 311 00:19:04,100 --> 00:19:07,100 The National Security Advisors in Saigon, is he not? 312 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:10,500 Didn't the CIA say Hanoi would connect Bundy's visit 313 00:19:10,700 --> 00:19:11,900 with a decision on bombing? 314 00:19:12,100 --> 00:19:13,300 Vietcong agents in Saigon government 315 00:19:13,500 --> 00:19:14,500 probably leaked it out. 316 00:19:14,700 --> 00:19:18,300 And knowing this, knowing this look what they did, Bob. 317 00:19:18,500 --> 00:19:20,100 They blew up a hundred and twentyeight people 318 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:21,800 just to thumb their noses at us. 319 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,100 Now what the hell are we going to do about it? 320 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,300 Number 33, the North Vietnamese barracks at 321 00:19:29,500 --> 00:19:32,500 Dong Hoi just over the border in North Vietnam, 322 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:34,300 about six thousand troops based there 323 00:19:34,500 --> 00:19:36,900 An isolated facility with minimal civilian support. 324 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:38,100 What are the expected casualties? 325 00:19:38,300 --> 00:19:40,700 Thirty six hundred troops, uh, roughly forty civilians. 326 00:19:40,900 --> 00:19:42,200 How'd you come up with these numbers? 327 00:19:42,700 --> 00:19:46,000 Sir, we take the approach, look at the blast pattern, 328 00:19:46,100 --> 00:19:49,100 size of the blast, demographics... 329 00:19:49,300 --> 00:19:52,000 Mr. President, it's a sophisticated an analysis as I've seen, 330 00:19:52,100 --> 00:19:54,500 unprecedented in aerial warfare. 331 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,500 Well, Ho Chi Minh's not gonna turn tail overnight. 332 00:19:57,700 --> 00:20:00,500 Saigon's gonna take a shellackin for anything we do. 333 00:20:00,700 --> 00:20:02,400 And if they go in now it'd be like sendin 334 00:20:02,500 --> 00:20:05,200 in a widow woman to slap Jack Dempsey. 335 00:20:05,300 --> 00:20:07,500 Sir, we doubt Hanoi will slap back. 336 00:20:07,700 --> 00:20:09,000 Didn't MacArthur say the same thing 337 00:20:09,100 --> 00:20:11,600 when a million Chinese poured into Korea? 338 00:20:14,700 --> 00:20:16,100 What does State think of this? 339 00:20:17,300 --> 00:20:20,200 The risk of inaction means more aggression, 340 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:21,900 Ambassador Taylor concurs. 341 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,200 He's meeting with Saigon's leaders now 342 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,300 and should be calling the Situation Room momentarily. 343 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:27,900 They'll put him through to me. 344 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:29,500 Mr. President, if I might. 345 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:30,400 I was in charge of 346 00:20:30,500 --> 00:20:32,500 bombing survey's during World War'II, 347 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:35,200 And bombing never wins a war. 348 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,700 Rather than erode the enemy's will it strengthens it, 349 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:39,200 we've seen this time and time again, 350 00:20:39,300 --> 00:20:40,600 in the Blitz, Berlin. 351 00:20:40,700 --> 00:20:42,000 Well, Blitz and Berlin never woulda happened 352 00:20:42,100 --> 00:20:44,600 If we didn't lay down to Hitler's Munich. 353 00:20:44,700 --> 00:20:46,700 And if we lay down now it'll be the same thing again. 354 00:20:46,900 --> 00:20:49,300 An open invitation to more of their aggression. 355 00:20:49,500 --> 00:20:51,400 Mr. President, what we're proposing with Rolling 356 00:20:51,500 --> 00:20:54,800 Thunder is a strictly limited program of sustained retaliation 357 00:20:54,900 --> 00:20:58,300 moving Northward only if Vietcong act vity persists. 358 00:20:58,400 --> 00:20:59,800 But it will persist, Bob. 359 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:01,500 We'll be bombing their cities before we know it, 360 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:04,500 now do we expect Russia to sit still for that? Or China? 361 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:08,800 Comparisons with Korea fifteen years ago are flimsy at best, Mr. President. 362 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:10,000 You are absolutely right. 363 00:21:10,100 --> 00:21:11,800 China has atomic weapons now. 364 00:21:11,900 --> 00:21:13,400 They tested their first bomb four months ago, 365 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,600 it was no dud. We have no idea what will set them off. 366 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:18,900 I, I don't understand. 367 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:20,400 Why is this? 368 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:24,500 North Vietnam has secret treaties with the Chicoms, Mr. President. 369 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:26,500 We don't know what the flashpoints are 370 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,000 in their intervention. 371 00:21:28,100 --> 00:21:30,600 We could take China out in seventeen minutes. 372 00:21:30,700 --> 00:21:32,500 They'd be crazy to take us on. 373 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:37,000 I agree, Bus, but why assume they're as rational as we are? 374 00:21:37,100 --> 00:21:40,300 Mr. President, four hundred Americans have died in Vietnam, 375 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,000 and now eight more in these atrocities, 376 00:21:43,100 --> 00:21:45,800 there has to be a response to this aggression. 377 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:46,700 Mr. President, 378 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:48,800 the Air Force will be launching strikes 379 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,000 from the Danang airfield, 380 00:21:51,100 --> 00:21:51,900 and that base will become 381 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:53,800 a more attractive target to the Vietcong. 382 00:21:53,900 --> 00:21:56,200 General Westmoreland is requesting a Hawk missile battalion. 383 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:57,500 Is he asking for troops? 384 00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,200 No. No troops. 385 00:21:59,300 --> 00:22:01,700 Saigon will be responsible for a base defense 386 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:05,300 but if the Vietcong activity intensifies despite these measures, 387 00:22:05,500 --> 00:22:06,500 they may need some help. 388 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,700 But it will intensify, Bob! 389 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,000 This is precisely my point, Mr. President. 390 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:14,500 Yes? 391 00:22:14,700 --> 00:22:17,600 Defense Secretary, Saigon, Ambassador Taylor. 392 00:22:17,700 --> 00:22:18,900 Put him through. 393 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,200 Max, we're all here with President Go ahead. 394 00:22:22,300 --> 00:22:24,600 Mr. President, gentlemen, 395 00:22:24,700 --> 00:22:27,600 Saigon has agreed to the commencement of air strikes. 396 00:22:27,700 --> 00:22:31,000 They say their army's ready for any counterattack from the North. 397 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:32,900 All right, Max. Thank you. 398 00:22:37,300 --> 00:22:42,000 George... your concerns are mine, as well as you know 399 00:22:42,100 --> 00:22:44,800 but we're no where nea the point you suggest, 400 00:22:44,900 --> 00:22:46,500 and many here agree there's a good chance 401 00:22:46,700 --> 00:22:50,700 that Ho Chi Minh will quit if we start makin him pay. 402 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,400 Now is there anyone here who does not agree with this? 403 00:22:54,100 --> 00:22:55,300 I'm concerned about the press. 404 00:22:55,500 --> 00:22:57,300 They're gonna view this as a change in policy. 405 00:22:57,500 --> 00:22:59,000 There is no change in policy. 406 00:22:59,100 --> 00:23:00,000 But we haven't struck back 407 00:23:00,100 --> 00:23:02,100 since the Tonkin Gulf affair six months ago. 408 00:23:02,300 --> 00:23:02,800 That's right, 409 00:23:02,900 --> 00:23:04,300 that's when I asked Congress for the power, 410 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,300 they gave me the power, now I'm usin it. 411 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:08,600 But we're takin it slow. 412 00:23:09,300 --> 00:23:11,200 I'm not goin to Hanoi. 413 00:23:13,300 --> 00:23:15,700 And I'm signin off on every target. 414 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,100 You're not gonna bomb the smallest outhouse 415 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:19,700 without checking with me. 416 00:23:20,100 --> 00:23:21,200 You understand, General? 417 00:23:21,300 --> 00:23:22,800 We understand, Mr. President. 418 00:23:23,500 --> 00:23:25,600 All right, Bob, you better get goin. 419 00:23:26,500 --> 00:23:28,200 Now, anything else? 420 00:23:37,300 --> 00:23:39,200 From Robert'S. McNamara 421 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:43,700 to Admiral U.S. Grant Sharp, Commander Pacific Forces, Honolulu. 422 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:45,800 This is an execution order. 423 00:23:45,900 --> 00:23:49,400 During daylight hours, 7 February 1965, Saigon time, 424 00:23:49,500 --> 00:23:52,400 conduct the following coordinated attacks: 425 00:23:52,500 --> 00:23:55,600 Number 33 X Dong Hoi barracks... 426 00:24:07,900 --> 00:24:09,400 Good evening, Mr. President. 427 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:10,800 Planes back? 428 00:24:10,900 --> 00:24:12,800 Uh, the carriers weren't on station when the order went out, sir. 429 00:24:12,900 --> 00:24:14,400 The operation has been delayed. 430 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:15,500 Delayed? 431 00:24:15,700 --> 00:24:17,900 About ninety minutes, sir. We should have word shortly. 432 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,000 At ease. 433 00:24:47,300 --> 00:24:48,300 What happened? 434 00:24:48,500 --> 00:24:49,600 It's monsoon season there, sir. 435 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:51,600 Well are they goin or aren't they goin !? 436 00:24:51,700 --> 00:24:53,800 You find out what the hell's goin on and you call me. 437 00:24:53,900 --> 00:24:55,700 Get the White House operator to put you through. 438 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:56,600 You want me to wake you, sir? 439 00:24:56,700 --> 00:24:58,000 You won't wake me! 440 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:07,700 Why you up? 441 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:08,900 Worried for you. 442 00:25:10,700 --> 00:25:13,000 Those planes should a been back hours ago. 443 00:25:14,500 --> 00:25:15,400 What's that? 444 00:25:15,500 --> 00:25:18,000 Letter from a friend complainin about junkyards. 445 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:22,200 She says here... 446 00:25:23,300 --> 00:25:25,600 they're all up and down the highway now 447 00:25:25,700 --> 00:25:28,800 through Dallas to San Antonio and Houston to Austin... 448 00:25:28,900 --> 00:25:31,000 Right on the highway or away where people can't see? 449 00:25:31,100 --> 00:25:33,600 No, right along the road defilin the countryside. 450 00:25:33,700 --> 00:25:37,100 Through Waxahachie and Hillboro, 451 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,700 and lovely San Marcos where you went to school. 452 00:25:39,900 --> 00:25:44,000 Oh. Love... don't.... Love. 453 00:25:47,300 --> 00:25:48,600 Yes, Mr. President? 454 00:25:48,700 --> 00:25:51,000 What are you do in about junkyards on the highways? 455 00:25:51,100 --> 00:25:52,700 What? Junkyards! 456 00:25:52,900 --> 00:25:54,800 Well, I'm sendin somethin over to your office right now. 457 00:25:54,900 --> 00:25:58,100 You jump in your car in your jammies you might even beat it. 458 00:26:01,300 --> 00:26:02,100 Yes? 459 00:26:02,300 --> 00:26:04,900 I spoke with Honolulu, they're cabling now. 460 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,100 Planes are back, the primary was hit. 461 00:26:08,300 --> 00:26:09,900 All the planes, they all get back? 462 00:26:10,100 --> 00:26:12,300 Uh, no, sir. I'm afraid we did lose one plane. 463 00:26:14,100 --> 00:26:15,400 What about the pilot? 464 00:26:15,500 --> 00:26:16,800 He went down at sea, 465 00:26:16,900 --> 00:26:18,700 Search and Rescue is looking for him now 466 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:20,700 but I'm afraid it's not looking very good. 467 00:26:20,900 --> 00:26:22,500 I'm sorry, sir. 468 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:24,900 All right, thank you, Bob. 469 00:26:25,100 --> 00:26:26,500 Good night, Mr. President. 470 00:26:27,100 --> 00:26:28,600 Yes, Mr. President? 471 00:26:31,100 --> 00:26:32,400 Lyndon. 472 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,800 Oh, I'm sorry. 473 00:26:38,700 --> 00:26:40,000 Put this on Moyer's desk. 474 00:26:40,100 --> 00:26:41,200 Yes, sir. 475 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:47,700 Honey? 476 00:26:48,500 --> 00:26:50,300 We lost a pilot. 477 00:26:51,900 --> 00:26:53,400 Sweetheart. 478 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:59,800 Sweetheart. Oh, I'm so sorry. 479 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:07,500 This isn't about junkyards, is it? 480 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:09,600 Shit, what time is it? 481 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,900 I told Sandra I'd be home before one. 482 00:27:18,500 --> 00:27:20,100 She didn't call. 483 00:27:20,500 --> 00:27:22,100 That's not a good sign. 484 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,900 What about you, you coming or going? 485 00:27:28,500 --> 00:27:29,700 He wants company. 486 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,500 We started bombing North Vietnam tonight. 487 00:27:35,300 --> 00:27:40,700 Christ. Are they talking about combat troops? 488 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,100 No. Not yet. 489 00:27:43,300 --> 00:27:45,000 No. 490 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,900 Christ, I don't know what to tell the press. 491 00:27:48,900 --> 00:27:51,400 We are backing into a war here, for Christ's sake 492 00:27:51,500 --> 00:27:53,900 and it's a war he campaigned against. 493 00:27:54,300 --> 00:27:56,600 But now, he talks like he's puttin a paddle 494 00:27:56,700 --> 00:27:58,600 to Ho Chi Minh's behind. 495 00:27:59,100 --> 00:28:00,900 Nah, Johnson's a deal maker. 496 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,400 He's the best politician this country's ever seen, 497 00:28:03,500 --> 00:28:05,100 he'll find a way out of this. 498 00:28:06,300 --> 00:28:09,200 Sure, we'll just get old Uncle Ho down to the ranch, 499 00:28:09,300 --> 00:28:11,800 serve him up some tasty barbecue 500 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:13,000 and then offer him a damn. 501 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:14,600 Or a Federal Judgeship. 502 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:16,400 Hello, Mr. President. 503 00:28:16,500 --> 00:28:18,200 Good evening, Mr. President. 504 00:28:18,300 --> 00:28:21,000 Congratulations on getting that education bill out of committee. 505 00:28:21,100 --> 00:28:22,300 Well, it hasn't passed yet, has it? 506 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,300 I want all ya up there on the hill day and night 507 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:25,700 to get me those yeas. 508 00:28:26,700 --> 00:28:27,700 What is this? 509 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:28,900 Tapioca puddin ? 510 00:28:29,100 --> 00:28:30,100 Yes, sir. 511 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,200 Would you like it? 512 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,100 Ah, now, votin rights, 513 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,700 that's the meat in the coconut, boys. Where do we stand? 514 00:28:37,900 --> 00:28:40,800 Um, at last tally we are short fifty congressmen. 515 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:41,800 But the Senate is-- 516 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:43,800 Start with the house give me the names. 517 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,800 You want me to read the roll, Mr. President, 518 00:28:47,900 --> 00:28:49,400 All four hundred and thirty-five? 519 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:53,000 From Abbitt of Virginia to Zablocki of Wisconsin. Go. 520 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:06,800 Um, Abbit, Virginia, nay. 521 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,000 Abernethy, Mississippi, nay. 522 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:10,900 Where do you think you're goin ? 523 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:13,500 Home. 524 00:29:13,700 --> 00:29:14,400 The hell you are. 525 00:29:14,500 --> 00:29:16,100 You're gonna relieve him when he gives out. 526 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,100 Adair, Indiana, nay. 527 00:29:21,300 --> 00:29:22,900 Adams, Washington yah. 528 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:24,800 Adabbo, New York, yah. 529 00:29:24,900 --> 00:29:27,000 Albert, Okalahoma, yah. 530 00:29:27,100 --> 00:29:31,300 Boys, it doesn't look like we're gonna be able to get votin rights through. 531 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:32,500 Not this session. 532 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,100 Well, I must say I don't understand, Mr. President. 533 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,100 Only a month ago in your State of the Union message, 534 00:29:38,300 --> 00:29:40,300 you made it perfect... Reverend King, 535 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:44,200 I've been to the well and the well has provided. 536 00:29:44,700 --> 00:29:48,000 I got the votes on Medicare, aid to education, 537 00:29:48,100 --> 00:29:51,100 all these benefit the poor and the disenfranchised 538 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:52,700 and you know who that is. 539 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,700 Please don't misunderstand, we're very grateful, Mr. President. 540 00:29:55,900 --> 00:29:57,900 Attorney General Katzenbach here's written 541 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,000 a beautiful piece of legislation. 542 00:30:00,100 --> 00:30:03,700 You think I wanna carry that around in my ass pocket? 543 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:08,700 You see it's this, this problem I got in Southeast Asia, 544 00:30:09,500 --> 00:30:12,100 The Vietnamese to them Southerners up on the Hill, 545 00:30:12,300 --> 00:30:14,500 what are they but another bunch of colored people. 546 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:19,300 And I go up there crawlin for more aid as I must for Vietnam, 547 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:21,500 Mr. President, old Wilbur Mills will say, 548 00:30:21,700 --> 00:30:23,400 you're gonna have to raise taxes. 549 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,300 Declare war, call up the reserves. 550 00:30:25,500 --> 00:30:28,700 And by the way, that's gonna cost you your War on Poverty, 551 00:30:28,900 --> 00:30:31,100 your votin rights for Negros. 552 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,000 Just like World War II killed the New Deal, 553 00:30:34,100 --> 00:30:37,200 well there ain't gonna be World War III, I promise you. 554 00:30:37,900 --> 00:30:40,700 I'm gonna nip this in the bud, I am. 555 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,100 And as soon as I do, 556 00:30:42,300 --> 00:30:45,300 I'll send that bill up and more, I promise you. 557 00:30:46,700 --> 00:30:48,300 There will be no delay. 558 00:30:49,900 --> 00:30:54,100 Well, Mr. President, we're going to be down in Selma, 559 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,000 marching for the vote, 560 00:30:56,500 --> 00:30:59,700 and we expect you'll take notice to what we do down there. 561 00:31:00,900 --> 00:31:03,400 During preparations for Martin Luther King's second attempt 562 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:04,700 to march to Montgomery, 563 00:31:04,900 --> 00:31:07,200 four white men beat to death a Boston clergyman, 564 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,600 one of the fifteen hundred marchers. 565 00:31:09,700 --> 00:31:11,400 The slain reverend, James Reed, 566 00:31:11,500 --> 00:31:14,100 had come to Selma in solidarity with Negroes attempting 567 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:15,600 to register to vote. 568 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:17,100 Amidst growing concern 569 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,100 about increasing racial violence in Alabama, 570 00:31:19,300 --> 00:31:21,700 Governor George Wallace is reportedly preparing a trip to 571 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,200 Washington D.C. to see the President. 572 00:31:24,700 --> 00:31:28,000 Meanwhile, demonstrations continue in front of the White House. 573 00:31:31,300 --> 00:31:32,500 Call em off! 574 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,200 Well, we didn't organize it, Mr. President. 575 00:31:34,300 --> 00:31:36,800 Call em off, get out there, both of ya! Call em off! 576 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:39,900 Daddy? 577 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,600 Why you up? Those goddamn agitators wake you? 578 00:31:43,700 --> 00:31:45,500 No, I heard you yellin . 579 00:31:45,700 --> 00:31:46,600 Oh, sorry, honey. 580 00:31:46,700 --> 00:31:48,800 ....always find ways to tell you how it can't be done. 581 00:31:49,300 --> 00:31:52,900 It ' still strange to us though how millions of dollars 582 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,800 can be spent everyday to hold troops in South Vietnam 583 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,800 and our country cannot protect the rights of Negros 584 00:31:59,900 --> 00:32:02,900 in Selma and Marian, Alabama! 585 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,400 He's outrageous! 586 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,700 So we have... Now! Now! Now! Everything's gotta be now. 587 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,700 What they want the whole goddamn world 588 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:11,400 with a fence around it? 589 00:32:11,900 --> 00:32:15,000 I just gave Standby authorization to Federalize the Alabama Guard, 590 00:32:15,100 --> 00:32:16,400 we just need your order. 591 00:32:16,500 --> 00:32:17,700 We have to do it, Mr. President. 592 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:19,200 Wallace won't protect those marchers. 593 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,300 Hold-hold on, you want me to send troops into Alabama, 594 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:22,600 lose Stennis, Dirksen, Russell, 595 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,000 every conservative vote I got hangin on a thread of a spittle!? 596 00:32:26,100 --> 00:32:27,900 It'll be Reconstruction all over again! 597 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,400 Hell, your friend Bobby Kennedy coulda given me that advice! 598 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:32,800 Governor George Wallace of the Alabama State Legislature... 599 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,700 Martin Luther King and his group of procommunists 600 00:32:35,900 --> 00:32:38,000 have instigated these demonstrations 601 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,100 by lawless nigger mobs in Birmingham. 602 00:32:41,700 --> 00:32:45,000 But the law abidin citizens of both races there are fed up 603 00:32:45,100 --> 00:32:49,200 with this riotin and disruption led by so-called clergy men 604 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,600 and their communist inspired values! 605 00:32:51,900 --> 00:32:54,600 I am therefore sending two hundred and fifty state 606 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:56,100 troopers into that city 607 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,900 supported y five hundred law officers of this state. 608 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:04,100 I will meet our enemies face to face. I will not surrender! 609 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,500 Mr. President, Wallace is only coming up here 610 00:33:06,700 --> 00:33:07,500 in order to placate you. 611 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,300 He wants things to get so bad down there 612 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:10,800 that you have to put the troops in. 613 00:33:10,900 --> 00:33:13,200 Then he'll lambaste you for invading his sovereign state 614 00:33:13,300 --> 00:33:14,300 and that's how he'll save himself. 615 00:33:14,500 --> 00:33:17,100 Goddamn runty little bastard! 616 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,700 I want his pecker in my pocket. 617 00:33:20,100 --> 00:33:21,700 The thing we have to do, we have to get him 618 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,400 to ask for the troops to say he wants rights, 619 00:33:24,500 --> 00:33:27,300 he wants peace, but he just can't control his own people. 620 00:33:27,700 --> 00:33:29,100 Make it his failure, that's what we ought to do. 621 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,300 In an interview today, Governor Wallace denies 622 00:33:31,500 --> 00:33:34,300 that Alabama State Troopers and Sheriff's Deputies used 623 00:33:34,500 --> 00:33:37,500 unnecessary force in routing Negro marchers in Selma. 624 00:33:38,100 --> 00:33:39,500 Call the Speaker. 625 00:33:39,700 --> 00:33:43,900 Tell him I want to address Congress. On television. 626 00:33:44,300 --> 00:33:47,200 That goddamn bill is goin up now. 627 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:49,700 One more, Governor Wallace. 628 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:52,300 A little closer. 629 00:33:53,300 --> 00:33:54,500 Thank you. 630 00:33:55,300 --> 00:33:56,900 All right, right here, let's sit down, Governor. 631 00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:58,900 Over here, that's it. 632 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,100 Over there, oooh, right in the corner. 633 00:34:01,300 --> 00:34:02,800 The corner, Governor, that's it. 634 00:34:04,900 --> 00:34:07,200 All right, Governor, you wanted to see me? 635 00:34:07,300 --> 00:34:08,700 Uh, yes, uh, Mr. President. 636 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:10,800 I want to thank you for agreeing to see me... 637 00:34:10,900 --> 00:34:13,500 Goddamn demonstrators! Keepin Lady Bird up, 638 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,200 disturbin my daughters rest. 639 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:16,800 Turn that thing off! 640 00:34:17,500 --> 00:34:19,500 Subversives, most of em. 641 00:34:19,700 --> 00:34:21,200 Communist party's behind the whole thing. 642 00:34:21,300 --> 00:34:22,500 You know what I'd do, I'd send some of them 643 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,900 secret service boys out there with itchin powder. 644 00:34:25,100 --> 00:34:26,700 Sprinkle it on the back of some of their necks, 645 00:34:26,900 --> 00:34:28,300 they'd drop them signs they're carryin, 646 00:34:28,500 --> 00:34:30,300 scratch themselves raw.. 647 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:33,300 That's a great idea. 648 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,200 I'm gonna get my people on that. 649 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,900 Better than that, Governor, we aughta go out there. 650 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,500 We got all of those television cameras, 651 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,900 you see this television camera I got out there? 652 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:42,800 Yes, sir. 653 00:34:42,900 --> 00:34:45,400 Why don't we go out there and we turn them cameras around 654 00:34:45,500 --> 00:34:46,700 and we'll announce that youm decided 655 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,800 to register every Negro in Alabama? 656 00:34:50,900 --> 00:34:52,000 Mr. President, as much as I... 657 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:53,900 Nick, give me one of them Constitutions. 658 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:55,000 Yes, sir. 659 00:34:55,100 --> 00:34:56,500 Nick's got the Constitution. 660 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:01,000 Eh, thank you, Nick. Now, Governor, 661 00:35:01,700 --> 00:35:04,500 I'm sure that somewhere in here it says 662 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,800 that Negros have the right to vote. 663 00:35:08,300 --> 00:35:10,000 Ah, yes, Mr. President. 664 00:35:10,100 --> 00:35:13,200 And uh, they have the right to vote in Alabama, 665 00:35:13,300 --> 00:35:15,600 but uh, it's the County Registrars, 666 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,100 they uh, they under Alabama law they independent 667 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:20,400 and I don't have the power. 668 00:35:20,500 --> 00:35:26,600 George... now don't you shit me about who's got the power in Alabama. 669 00:35:28,100 --> 00:35:28,800 Mr. President. 670 00:35:28,900 --> 00:35:32,000 Now, come on, Governor. You're a persuasive man. 671 00:35:32,100 --> 00:35:35,100 Hell, I was watchin you this mornin on all three networks. 672 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:36,800 You were attackin me. 673 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,700 I wasn't attackin you, Mr. President, 674 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:39,700 I was attackin the idea. 675 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,500 Idea, hell, you were attackin me, George, 676 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,400 and I'll tell ya, you're so damn persuasive, 677 00:35:44,500 --> 00:35:46,300 I nearly changed my mind. 678 00:35:47,900 --> 00:35:51,500 You have marvelous powers of persuasion, don't you, Governor. 679 00:35:53,100 --> 00:35:55,000 Governor Wallace, 680 00:35:55,100 --> 00:35:57,000 you and I shouldn't be sittin here, 681 00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,600 thinkin about 1965, 682 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,700 we aught to be thinkin about 1995, 683 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:04,900 when you and I will be long in our graves. 684 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,500 Now you got a lot of poor people down there in Alabama, 685 00:36:07,700 --> 00:36:09,000 a lot of ignorant people. 686 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,700 People who need jobs, people who need a future. 687 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,000 You could do a lot for em. 688 00:36:14,100 --> 00:36:17,800 In 1995, Governor, what do you want left behind? 689 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,400 You want a great big marble monument sayin George Wallace, 690 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,600 he built, he protected the weak, the poor, 691 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,400 the impoverished people of this great state? 692 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,900 Or do you want a little piece of scrawny pine layin there 693 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:36,400 in the harsh, caliche soil sayin, 694 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:40,800 George Wallace, he hated. 695 00:36:47,700 --> 00:36:51,400 I'm sorry, Governor. I interrupted you. 696 00:36:52,700 --> 00:36:54,800 Now, you wanted to tell me something? 697 00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:03,700 Mr. President, I uh, I've had the opportunity to 698 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:10,800 uh, reevaluate and uh... I think that uh, 699 00:37:11,900 --> 00:37:14,500 I just may not be able to get things under control 700 00:37:14,700 --> 00:37:18,600 without some uh, assistance. 701 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:23,900 Governor, I'll give you any assistance that's mine to provide. 702 00:37:24,500 --> 00:37:28,100 Now, what specific measures would you suggest? 703 00:37:28,900 --> 00:37:31,800 The President and I have spoken and uh, 704 00:37:31,900 --> 00:37:36,100 I have assured him that I abhor brutality 705 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,400 and in my total commitment to law and order, 706 00:37:39,500 --> 00:37:44,200 I will do whatever it takes to uh, maintain the peace. 707 00:37:53,300 --> 00:37:57,900 Mr. Speaker, the President of the United States. 708 00:38:42,100 --> 00:38:46,400 I speak tonight to the dignity of men 709 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,200 and the destiny of democracy. 710 00:38:50,700 --> 00:38:53,200 There is no Negro problem. 711 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,400 There is no Southern problem. 712 00:38:57,100 --> 00:38:59,700 There is no Northern problem. 713 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,600 There is only an American problem. 714 00:39:10,900 --> 00:39:15,500 There is no cause for pride in what has happened in Selma. 715 00:39:16,300 --> 00:39:19,400 The cries of pain and the hymns 716 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,000 and protests of oppressed people 717 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,600 have summoned into convocation all the majesty 718 00:39:25,700 --> 00:39:27,300 of this great government. 719 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:31,800 Our mission is at once the oldest 720 00:39:31,900 --> 00:39:37,700 and the most basic of this country to right wrong, 721 00:39:37,900 --> 00:39:41,900 to do justice, to serve man. 722 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:55,300 This Wednesday, 723 00:39:55,500 --> 00:39:57,800 I will send you a law 724 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,900 which will eliminate illegal barriers 725 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,700 to the most basic American right, 726 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,100 the right to vote. 727 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:11,800 Many of the issues of civil rights are very complex, 728 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,500 and most difficult about this there can 729 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:17,900 and should be no argument, 730 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,200 for outside this chamber 731 00:40:20,300 --> 00:40:23,500 is the outraged conscience of a nation 732 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,300 and the harsh judgment of history. 733 00:40:27,300 --> 00:40:29,600 Because of the American Negro, 734 00:40:29,700 --> 00:40:34,500 to secure for himself the full blessings of American life, 735 00:40:34,700 --> 00:40:37,500 must be our cause. 736 00:40:44,900 --> 00:40:51,800 Because really, it is all of us who must overcome 737 00:40:51,900 --> 00:40:56,500 the crippling legacy of bigotry and injustice 738 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,600 and we shall overcome. 739 00:41:47,700 --> 00:41:50,400 Dick, ninety three million on TV, it's a record. 740 00:41:50,500 --> 00:41:52,400 Congratulations, Thanks. 741 00:41:52,500 --> 00:41:55,800 Hey, Dick, Dick, the switchboard is jammed haven't 742 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:57,900 had this many calls since't he Cuban Missile Crisis. 743 00:41:58,100 --> 00:42:00,300 Hmm, at least we know they don't only call to complain. 744 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:02,100 Hey, Dick, sit down, sit down. 745 00:42:02,300 --> 00:42:03,600 That was ole Dick Russell. 746 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:05,800 Says I'm a low-down cur and a turncoat 747 00:42:05,900 --> 00:42:07,600 but he wants me to know that's the best speech 748 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:11,300 he ever saw any president give and that goes back to Lincoln! 749 00:42:11,900 --> 00:42:13,100 Mr. President, it's Dr. King. 750 00:42:13,300 --> 00:42:14,100 Oh, Dr... 751 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,600 Oh, Reverend King, that's kind of you to call. 752 00:42:17,700 --> 00:42:19,700 Did you know I was on TV tonight? 753 00:42:20,700 --> 00:42:23,400 Oh, oh, you saw it? Yeah. 754 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,900 Okay, All right. I understand. 755 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:28,400 Yeah. Bye. Bye. 756 00:42:28,900 --> 00:42:29,800 You've got Arthur Crimm on Line 3, sir. 757 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:31,400 Oh, no-no-no. No, no, I can't. 758 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:32,900 No, no, no. 759 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:34,900 No. 760 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:36,000 You know, boys, 761 00:42:36,500 --> 00:42:41,000 I'm reminded tonight of Texas hill country in spring. 762 00:42:41,100 --> 00:42:43,000 Oh, Lyndon, your guests are far too weary 763 00:42:43,100 --> 00:42:44,600 to appreciate your poetry. 764 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:46,200 Now let me tell you boys 765 00:42:46,300 --> 00:42:47,800 about the hill country in the spring. 766 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:49,000 Good night. 767 00:42:50,900 --> 00:42:52,100 Good night, all. 768 00:42:52,300 --> 00:42:53,300 Good night, Mrs. Johnson. 769 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:54,400 Good night. Luci. 770 00:42:54,500 --> 00:42:55,600 Now, in the spring... 771 00:42:55,700 --> 00:42:59,700 Luci. Come with me. Good night. 772 00:43:00,300 --> 00:43:02,200 Good night, Mrs. Johnson. 773 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:03,800 Good night. 774 00:43:05,900 --> 00:43:09,500 In the spring, in the hill country, 775 00:43:09,700 --> 00:43:11,400 the sun is up early 776 00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:13,700 and the ground gets warmer, 777 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,800 and you can see the steam risin 778 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:18,800 and the sap drippin. 779 00:43:18,900 --> 00:43:23,200 And in his pen, there's my prize bull. 780 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,000 Now he is the biggest... 781 00:43:29,700 --> 00:43:32,600 Best hung bull in the hill country. 782 00:43:33,700 --> 00:43:38,300 Well, in the spring that bull gets a hankerin for them cows 783 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:42,200 and he starts pawin the ground and gettin restless. 784 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,000 So I open up the pen 785 00:43:45,100 --> 00:43:51,400 and he goes down the hill with his pecker hangin hard and swingin . 786 00:43:52,300 --> 00:43:56,100 Well, those cows get so goddamn excited, 787 00:43:56,300 --> 00:43:59,900 they get more and more moist to receive him 788 00:44:00,100 --> 00:44:03,100 and their asses just start quiverin 789 00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,900 they start quiverin all over every one of em is quiverin ! 790 00:44:09,100 --> 00:44:12,200 And as that bull struts into their pasture, 791 00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:16,700 oooh, boys, ha-ha we had em quiverin tonight! 792 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,500 Arriving in Naval transports, United States Marines 793 00:44:27,700 --> 00:44:30,900 storm the beaches in Danang Vietnam in full battle gear. 794 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,400 These are the first U.S. ground troops to step foot 795 00:44:33,500 --> 00:44:35,700 on Asian soil since the Korean War. 796 00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,600 They were greeted by some lovely local ladies. 797 00:44:38,700 --> 00:44:41,300 The Pentagon says their mission is a defensive one, 798 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,300 to protect the U.S. air base from enemy attack 799 00:44:43,500 --> 00:44:45,900 so Operation Rolling Thunder can roll on. 800 00:44:46,500 --> 00:44:47,500 Speaking with reporters, 801 00:44:47,700 --> 00:44:49,200 President Johnson emphasized 802 00:44:49,300 --> 00:44:50,900 that these thirty-five hundred marines 803 00:44:51,100 --> 00:44:53,200 will free up the South Vietnamese troops 804 00:44:53,300 --> 00:44:56,800 now guarding the base to go out and fight Vietcong. 805 00:44:56,900 --> 00:44:59,500 Reports from the field, however, indicate that Saigon forces 806 00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,300 may be no match for full Vietcong regimen. 807 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,500 Recently, in one of the heaviest attacks of the war so far, 808 00:45:05,500 --> 00:45:07,500 the Vietcong inflicted major casualties 809 00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:09,500 in Quai Nang Province. 810 00:45:09,700 --> 00:45:12,000 Unofficial sources say that many South Vietnamese army 811 00:45:12,100 --> 00:45:13,800 units are near collapse. 812 00:45:14,700 --> 00:45:16,300 Oh, my, oh, my. 813 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:21,000 Mr. President. 814 00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:21,800 Mr. President. 815 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:23,700 All right, sit down, sit down boys. 816 00:45:25,100 --> 00:45:27,100 I, I heard you fellahs were talkin over dinner. 817 00:45:27,500 --> 00:45:28,700 Can I get you a plate of food, Mr. President? 818 00:45:28,900 --> 00:45:29,500 No, thank you. 819 00:45:29,700 --> 00:45:30,900 Drink? No. 820 00:45:35,700 --> 00:45:39,100 Why? Why do they want war with us? 821 00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,300 To Ho Chi Minh and North Vietnamese 822 00:45:42,500 --> 00:45:44,500 this is just a continuation of the war with the French, 823 00:45:44,700 --> 00:45:45,400 and the Japanese, 824 00:45:45,500 --> 00:45:48,500 and the Chinese a thousand years before that. 825 00:45:48,700 --> 00:45:49,800 We never should have allowed the French 826 00:45:49,900 --> 00:45:52,100 to reclaim their colonies in 45, 827 00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:53,700 but we needed them aligned with us 828 00:45:53,900 --> 00:45:57,100 against the Soviets and that was their price. 829 00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:59,300 Will we end up like the French? 830 00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:03,400 A great power cuttin and runnin from a bunch a little men in black pajamas, 831 00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,300 tuckin our tail in defeat? 832 00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:08,400 France didn't have the fire power we have. 833 00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:11,000 But the bombing seems to have no affect. 834 00:46:11,100 --> 00:46:12,700 Well, it appears now that it won't stop them, 835 00:46:12,900 --> 00:46:15,200 but it has slowed down their resupply. 836 00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,400 Hanoi's starting to send down large units 837 00:46:17,500 --> 00:46:18,800 and the more of their men we can tie up 838 00:46:18,900 --> 00:46:20,600 with repairing roads and bridges, 839 00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:22,800 the fewer they can spare to fight the South. 840 00:46:26,100 --> 00:46:27,800 What do we have there now? 841 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:32,200 Well, we've got the 3rd Marines at Danang, Phu Bai, 842 00:46:32,300 --> 00:46:34,900 Chu Lai, the 173rd Airborne at Vung Tau, 843 00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,100 for base defense and support of the South Vietnamese 844 00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:38,600 units 13 battalions in all. 845 00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,100 Never mind battalions, how many boys? 846 00:46:42,100 --> 00:46:44,400 Fifty-one thousand troops, Mr. President. 847 00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:46,800 Yeah, and Westmorel and wants how many? 848 00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:55,500 One hundred eighty-four thousand. 849 00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,300 And the authority to launch offensive operations 850 00:46:58,400 --> 00:46:59,800 under his own command. 851 00:47:03,900 --> 00:47:06,000 The South Vietnamese are useless, Mr. President. 852 00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,000 They've lost four battalions in a month. 853 00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:09,600 Desertions are at record levels. 854 00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:11,200 They're losing and they're losing fast. 855 00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:12,400 National Security Advisor I know they're losin ! 856 00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,300 I don't need a Phi Beta Kappa key to know they're losin ! 857 00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,500 Anyone smart enough to pour piss out of a boot 858 00:47:17,700 --> 00:47:19,100 knows they're losin ! 859 00:47:25,700 --> 00:47:28,300 How many casualties you think we'll take? 860 00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,700 We could reach 500 a month by the end of the year 861 00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:36,500 if Hanoi hasn't quit by then. 862 00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:39,400 Five hundred a month? 863 00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,200 You tell Westmorel that he's got the authority. 864 00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,400 Tell him to get out there and kill Vietcong, 865 00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:47,500 and do whatever he has to do to hold em off. 866 00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:49,300 Then you and Wheeler go and see him 867 00:47:49,500 --> 00:47:50,600 and nail him down on what he needs 868 00:47:50,700 --> 00:47:52,500 to get this thing over with. 869 00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,300 Then damn it, let's get it over with! 870 00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:00,500 U.S. Command Center, Saigon 871 00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:02,400 Kid was setting fuses on the goddamn bridge, 872 00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:03,600 do you believe it? 873 00:48:03,700 --> 00:48:05,200 I was five minutes away. 874 00:48:05,300 --> 00:48:07,200 And that potshot last time I was here 875 00:48:07,300 --> 00:48:08,300 he missed me by a mile. 876 00:48:08,500 --> 00:48:12,100 Jesus, you'd think they'd put their best sniper on the job. 877 00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:13,000 I wish I could tell you 878 00:48:13,100 --> 00:48:15,700 they were representative of the enemy Mr. Secretary. 879 00:48:19,300 --> 00:48:23,200 My strategy for the war is divided into three phases. 880 00:48:23,300 --> 00:48:24,300 In Phase I, 881 00:48:24,500 --> 00:48:27,900 employing the 184,000 man level now being considered, 882 00:48:28,100 --> 00:48:31,200 we would halt the losing trend by the end of 1965. 883 00:48:32,100 --> 00:48:33,400 In Phase II, 884 00:48:33,500 --> 00:48:37,200 for which an additional 100,000 troops would be needed, 885 00:48:37,300 --> 00:48:42,300 allied forces would gain the initiative by June 30, 1966, 886 00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,600 pacification activities would be expanded 887 00:48:44,700 --> 00:48:47,700 aimed at winning the hearts and minds 888 00:48:47,900 --> 00:48:50,900 of the South Vietnamese peasantry. 889 00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,200 If the Communists do not then give up 890 00:48:53,300 --> 00:48:57,000 Phase III of our strategy would kick in the win phase, 891 00:48:57,100 --> 00:48:59,800 which would being on July 1, 1966 892 00:48:59,900 --> 00:49:04,000 and conclude by December 31, 1967 893 00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:08,000 the defeat of remaining enemy forces and base areas. 894 00:49:08,100 --> 00:49:11,400 Additional reinforcements will be needed for this phase, 895 00:49:11,500 --> 00:49:15,100 following which allied forces will begin to be withdrawn. 896 00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,200 General, that's a marvelous plan, 897 00:49:18,700 --> 00:49:21,300 but uh, excessively abstract. 898 00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:22,800 I want to see your numbers. 899 00:49:23,500 --> 00:49:25,900 I want to see the percentage of the country you now control, 900 00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:27,300 The percentage intend to control 901 00:49:27,500 --> 00:49:29,900 with these 200,000 additional men. 902 00:49:30,300 --> 00:49:32,700 I want to see rates of infiltration and interdiction, 903 00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,300 force ratios in each of the tactical corps zones 904 00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,700 and enemy casualties in battles fought 905 00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:41,000 and projected battles against these added forces. 906 00:50:00,700 --> 00:50:02,800 Mr. Clifford, The President on Line One. 907 00:50:03,300 --> 00:50:05,800 Old friend, I need you here. 908 00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,600 Whatever resources are lost through bombing or capture, 909 00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:18,600 China and Russia will make up with resupply, 910 00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:19,500 encouraging a friendly game 911 00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:21,600 of I'm more revolutionary than though 912 00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:23,900 Our intervention will give them a cause 913 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,100 over which to unite when it is in our interest to deepen 914 00:50:26,300 --> 00:50:27,300 the breach between them. 915 00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:29,200 Wouldn't we lose credibility throughout the world 916 00:50:29,300 --> 00:50:30,600 if we give up as you propose? 917 00:50:30,700 --> 00:50:32,600 Wouldn t this be an irreparable blow, George? 918 00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:33,700 A worse blow, Mr. President, 919 00:50:33,900 --> 00:50:36,900 would be that the mightiest power in the world is unable to defeat 920 00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:38,100 one of the most backward. 921 00:50:38,300 --> 00:50:39,500 With the seventy-one battalions, 922 00:50:39,700 --> 00:50:41,800 with Westy's plan, this war is winnable. 923 00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:43,700 I say we go in and we get the job done. 924 00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:45,700 But can we get the job done? 925 00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:48,100 What if they put their stack in? 926 00:50:48,300 --> 00:50:49,900 What makes you think if we put in the numbers 927 00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:53,300 you're suggesting that Ho Chi Minh won't match us man for man? 928 00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:55,800 This means greater bodies of men, Mr. President, 929 00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:57,700 Which will allow us to cream them. 930 00:50:57,800 --> 00:50:59,600 Their firepower against ours... 931 00:50:59,700 --> 00:51:02,100 Why does anyone think that they will accommodate us 932 00:51:02,300 --> 00:51:03,600 by fighting our kind of war? 933 00:51:03,700 --> 00:51:05,000 Their tactics are terror, 934 00:51:05,100 --> 00:51:08,000 and sniping they have better access to intelligence. 935 00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:09,800 Why is this? 936 00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,600 It's because the South Vietnamese government is heavily 937 00:51:12,700 --> 00:51:15,200 infiltrated with Vietcong agents, Mr. President. 938 00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:18,600 What other road can we go, negotiations, 939 00:51:18,700 --> 00:51:19,900 stopping the bombing? 940 00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,200 These make us look weak, with cup in hand. 941 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,000 Better to lose now than after committing 200,000 men. 942 00:51:25,100 --> 00:51:27,700 I disagree. We have to make a stand here, 943 00:51:27,900 --> 00:51:29,800 and if we fail it could be chalked up to 944 00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:31,200 any number of things corruption 945 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:32,700 amongst Saigon's leaders for instance, 946 00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:33,900 then we can get out. 947 00:51:34,100 --> 00:51:36,100 But this government would have stood up to the Communists. 948 00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:39,300 But we won't get out, Bob, we will double our bet 949 00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:40,900 and get massacred in the rice paddies 950 00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:44,200 So-so-so-so, what's you're advice, George? Cut and run? 951 00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:47,100 Mr. President, 952 00:51:48,900 --> 00:51:51,400 no great captain in history ever hesitated 953 00:51:51,500 --> 00:51:53,700 to make a tactical withdrawal when conditions were 954 00:51:53,900 --> 00:51:55,200 unfavorable to him. 955 00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:01,900 Does anyone else here agree with what George is sayin ? 956 00:52:06,300 --> 00:52:08,300 I've asked Clark Clifford to join us. 957 00:52:09,500 --> 00:52:12,900 Clark, you have any comments at this time? 958 00:52:15,100 --> 00:52:18,400 I, I have a question for General Wheeler. 959 00:52:18,500 --> 00:52:19,600 Yes, sir. 960 00:52:19,700 --> 00:52:20,600 Good morning, General. 961 00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:21,800 Good morning. 962 00:52:21,900 --> 00:52:24,700 If the President proceeds with this plan, 963 00:52:25,500 --> 00:52:28,500 what in your view would constitute a victory? 964 00:52:29,300 --> 00:52:32,500 What is the definition of victory in this contest? 965 00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:33,900 Yes. 966 00:52:34,100 --> 00:52:36,500 A military victory in the traditional sense 967 00:52:36,700 --> 00:52:38,100 is not what we are seeking. 968 00:52:38,700 --> 00:52:41,200 To eliminate every last Vietcong guerilla, 969 00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:45,300 could require as many as half a million men 970 00:52:45,500 --> 00:52:46,500 and five years... 971 00:52:46,700 --> 00:52:49,900 N-n-no one, no one's considerin those kinda numbers, no one. 972 00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,900 Our objective is to reach a stalemate whereby 973 00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:56,600 we are attriting the enemy faster 974 00:52:56,700 --> 00:52:58,900 than he can replace his loses, 975 00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,600 this is the so-called cross-over point. 976 00:53:01,700 --> 00:53:03,300 And how many men will this require? 977 00:53:03,500 --> 00:53:05,600 A substantially smaller number. 978 00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:09,700 Depending on how the North Vietnamese respond. 979 00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:11,700 Well, might they respond by sending in, 980 00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:15,000 say, 100,000 troops? 981 00:53:15,100 --> 00:53:16,900 We regard this as unlikely. 982 00:53:17,100 --> 00:53:20,300 Well, it's less than half the men they have under arms. 983 00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:21,400 Well, it's certainly possible, 984 00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:23,600 they already have 50,000 men down there. 985 00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,500 And to achieve the ten to one superiority? 986 00:53:26,700 --> 00:53:28,300 Which I understand is barely adequate 987 00:53:28,500 --> 00:53:32,000 for conventional forces in a guerilla situation. 988 00:53:32,900 --> 00:53:34,400 How many troops would be required 989 00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:36,500 to meet this possible threat? 990 00:53:37,700 --> 00:53:39,900 As I said, this would be unlikely. 991 00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,500 One million troops, is that not correct, General? 992 00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:51,500 You see, we would need one million men in Vietnam. 993 00:53:59,000 --> 00:53:59,700 Excuse me 994 00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:00,900 Clark... 995 00:54:01,300 --> 00:54:02,200 I can't tell you how grateful 996 00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:04,500 I am to finely have an alley at the barricades. 997 00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:07,500 Well, it's just what makes sense, George. 998 00:54:07,700 --> 00:54:10,200 Not to Bob McNamara but to me. 999 00:54:10,300 --> 00:54:11,600 A million men was straight-out 1000 00:54:11,700 --> 00:54:14,200 of your memo of October last year. 1001 00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,000 An impressively persuasive document in my opinion. 1002 00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:18,500 All sixty-seven pages of it. 1003 00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:19,100 Well... 1004 00:54:19,300 --> 00:54:21,800 I haven't shown much restraint on the subject, it's true. 1005 00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:22,800 If he brought you in, 1006 00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:26,300 it must be because I'm like an old broken record now. 1007 00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:28,200 Well, then that'd be two of us. 1008 00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:30,600 Scratchy and irritating as hell. 1009 00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:31,900 Good day, George. 1010 00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:34,200 Yeah? 1011 00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:36,700 The Vista Volunteers are here for the pictures, Mr. President. 1012 00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:37,700 All right, tell em I'll be out in a minute. 1013 00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:40,200 And tell Goodwin I wanna see him right after. 1014 00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:45,400 I called Marg soon as I knew you were safe. Cowards. 1015 00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:48,000 I really appreciate that, she was pretty shaken up. 1016 00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:49,200 She hates my work 1017 00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:51,000 Well, I hate sendin ya. 1018 00:54:51,100 --> 00:54:53,100 The whole thing stinks to high heaven 1019 00:54:54,100 --> 00:54:56,100 What'd you wanna tell me in private? 1020 00:54:59,300 --> 00:55:02,400 I've managed to keep these Vietnam expenditures 1021 00:55:02,500 --> 00:55:03,800 under wraps as you requested, 1022 00:55:03,900 --> 00:55:05,800 but if you decide to move forward with this, 1023 00:55:05,900 --> 00:55:09,000 it's going to be impossible to keep up the guise indefinitely 1024 00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:11,300 and I strongly believe you should present 1025 00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:13,300 this bill to the American people. No, absolutely not. 1026 00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:14,200 Mr. President, 1027 00:55:14,300 --> 00:55:17,300 I can't continue to hide these kinds of figures. 1028 00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:19,700 Phase I of Westmoreland's program alone 1029 00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,800 is going to run us twelve billion dollars. 1030 00:55:22,900 --> 00:55:24,900 Twelve billion!? 1031 00:55:25,300 --> 00:55:28,100 I can't ask Congress for twelve billion dollars! 1032 00:55:28,300 --> 00:55:29,800 Mr. President. Bob, it'll be unshirted hell 1033 00:55:29,900 --> 00:55:32,400 if I go to the Hill askin for that kind of money. 1034 00:55:32,500 --> 00:55:34,600 I'll never get another thing out of em again. 1035 00:55:34,700 --> 00:55:36,500 Now how much can you trim off that? 1036 00:55:38,500 --> 00:55:40,800 Bob, I've got my ox in a ditch here. 1037 00:55:41,300 --> 00:55:42,500 Now, what can you do for me? 1038 00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:46,300 If we continue to use the maximum transfer authority 1039 00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:47,300 from other areas, 1040 00:55:47,500 --> 00:55:48,600 I could probably cut these figures in half, 1041 00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:49,900 but we'd still need a big appropriation 1042 00:55:50,100 --> 00:55:51,900 to carry us through this year. 1043 00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:54,800 But Westmoreland says if we put the men in, 1044 00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:56,600 there's a chance they'll quit by year's end, right? 1045 00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:57,900 Well, that's certainly what we all hope, 1046 00:55:58,100 --> 00:55:59,000 but we can't count on West... 1047 00:55:59,100 --> 00:56:01,000 You just do the number countin, will ya, Bob? 1048 00:56:01,100 --> 00:56:01,600 Yeah. 1049 00:56:01,700 --> 00:56:03,100 Get as low as you can. 1050 00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:06,500 One more. 1051 00:56:10,700 --> 00:56:12,700 All right. All right, thank you, thank you. 1052 00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:17,600 Dick, I need a statement for next week. 1053 00:56:17,700 --> 00:56:19,100 I'm not sure yet if I'm gonna want to use it, 1054 00:56:19,300 --> 00:56:20,100 but I need it ready. 1055 00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:21,500 All right, Mr. President. 1056 00:56:21,700 --> 00:56:23,700 You know, Jack, I want war like I want polio 1057 00:56:23,900 --> 00:56:27,100 the shootin, the bombin goes against every bone in my body. 1058 00:56:27,300 --> 00:56:29,500 You know that better than almost anyone. 1059 00:56:29,700 --> 00:56:30,800 These young people here, 1060 00:56:30,900 --> 00:56:32,500 that's what I'm all about. 1061 00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:33,800 That was me, 1062 00:56:33,900 --> 00:56:36,400 in Cotulla teachin Mexican kids livin in hovels, 1063 00:56:36,500 --> 00:56:39,700 treated worse than you'd treat a dog. 1064 00:56:39,900 --> 00:56:42,300 But here I start a billion dollar bank 1065 00:56:42,500 --> 00:56:44,200 for em in Southeast Asia, free money, 1066 00:56:44,300 --> 00:56:46,400 and Ho Chi Minh wants no part of it. 1067 00:56:46,500 --> 00:56:49,100 I could a turned that place into the Tennessee Valley. 1068 00:56:49,300 --> 00:56:51,300 I read he said he's willin to fight for twenty years. 1069 00:56:51,500 --> 00:56:52,700 I know what he says and I know what I say 1070 00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:56,200 and I know what I must do despite what I say, damn it! 1071 00:56:57,100 --> 00:57:00,200 I want to leave the footprint of America in Vietnam, 1072 00:57:00,300 --> 00:57:03,000 schools, dams, hospitals. 1073 00:57:03,100 --> 00:57:05,400 Bomb craters that'll be our footprint 1074 00:57:05,500 --> 00:57:07,200 That's what they'll remember me for. 1075 00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,000 Not civil rights or health care or education. 1076 00:57:10,100 --> 00:57:13,400 No, sir, it'll be Vietnam, Vietnam, Vietnam. 1077 00:57:13,900 --> 00:57:16,000 Twenty bills I'm tryin to get out of committee, 1078 00:57:16,100 --> 00:57:18,400 and twelve outta eighteen workin hours everyday, 1079 00:57:18,500 --> 00:57:22,200 my head's stuck up that raggedy-ass little fourth-rate country 1080 00:57:22,300 --> 00:57:24,600 that doesn't even have the fight to save itself. 1081 00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:31,800 You get with McNamara, you know what it's gotta say 1082 00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:33,400 and tell Buzzby or Goodwin 1083 00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:34,800 we gotta put the music to it, Jack. 1084 00:57:47,100 --> 00:57:48,400 Why you up? 1085 00:57:48,900 --> 00:57:50,700 You needn't ask me that each time. 1086 00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:53,200 Ah, I tried not awake ya. 1087 00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,000 I got the ringer so low I can't hear it, 1088 00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:57,500 and I got the flashlight. 1089 00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:00,400 Maybe you oughta sleep in that other room you set up. 1090 00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:03,700 What happened to that Prime Rib from the Medicare meetin ? 1091 00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:04,700 Is that what you want? 1092 00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:07,400 There's a nice chicken left from the Education Lunch. 1093 00:58:07,500 --> 00:58:08,900 I saw em put it away. 1094 00:58:10,700 --> 00:58:12,700 Oh, darlin you been so good about your diet, 1095 00:58:12,900 --> 00:58:14,100 I don't see any point in the middle of the night... 1096 00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:15,600 I don't care about that now! 1097 00:58:16,100 --> 00:58:18,600 Another heart attack might be the answer to my problems. 1098 00:58:19,100 --> 00:58:21,200 All right, you stop that kinda talk please, 1099 00:58:21,300 --> 00:58:22,400 I worry enough about your health. 1100 00:58:22,500 --> 00:58:24,600 I'll fix somethin for you if you sit down. 1101 00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:26,300 All right. Come on. 1102 00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:27,400 All right. 1103 00:58:28,700 --> 00:58:29,800 I'm sorry. 1104 00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:42,200 Luci met a boy. 1105 00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:46,200 When she went on that Chicago trip with you last week. 1106 00:58:46,300 --> 00:58:47,900 What do you mean she met a boy!? 1107 00:58:48,500 --> 00:58:50,200 Why didn't I know about this? 1108 00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:51,800 That day she went to Milwaukee 1109 00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,200 and visited the William Feldsteins. 1110 00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:59,000 She visited Beth Jenkins at Marquette 1111 00:58:59,100 --> 00:59:01,000 and Beth had some friends over, 1112 00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:05,500 all the students there and among them was this... 1113 00:59:05,700 --> 00:59:10,200 boy, Patrick Nugent is his name. 1114 00:59:12,100 --> 00:59:13,500 He's Catholic. 1115 00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:17,900 Luci will only date boys who are Catholic now 1116 00:59:18,500 --> 00:59:21,100 and she calls him Paddy. 1117 00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:21,700 Thank you. 1118 00:59:21,900 --> 00:59:23,600 So I am payin attention. 1119 00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:27,100 He's just tons, mother. 1120 00:59:27,700 --> 00:59:31,300 She said to me. That's the new expression, tons. 1121 00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:32,400 Move your elbow. 1122 00:59:33,100 --> 00:59:33,800 Thank you. 1123 00:59:33,900 --> 00:59:36,200 Yeah. You like the chicken? 1124 00:59:36,900 --> 00:59:38,300 You remarked on it. 1125 00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:42,700 I didn't know of it. 1126 00:59:43,300 --> 00:59:45,200 You might have shown it to me this mornin . 1127 00:59:46,500 --> 00:59:47,600 And woken you again? 1128 00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:48,900 Oh. 1129 00:59:49,300 --> 00:59:51,500 Like a jack ass in a hailstorm. 1130 00:59:52,100 --> 00:59:54,800 I guess I'll just have to hunker up and take it. 1131 00:59:57,500 --> 01:00:00,000 I feel like I'm goin down in a plane, 1132 01:00:00,900 --> 01:00:05,500 and I can crash with it and burn up, or jump and die. 1133 01:00:07,700 --> 01:00:11,500 Where we were when I came in, I, I'd trade back to that. 1134 01:00:13,700 --> 01:00:16,500 I'd trade back to the damn vice-presidency 1135 01:00:16,700 --> 01:00:18,600 to get outta this mess. 1136 01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:32,700 Clark, the President would like you and your wife 1137 01:00:32,900 --> 01:00:34,200 to join him at Camp David this weekend. 1138 01:00:34,300 --> 01:00:36,100 Oh, thank you, Bill. Thank the President. 1139 01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:38,600 We'd love to, but we have a prior engagement. 1140 01:00:38,700 --> 01:00:40,900 Clark, is there anyway you can make it? 1141 01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:43,000 He's working on an escalation speech? 1142 01:00:43,100 --> 01:00:44,800 Has he made up his mind? 1143 01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:47,800 I'd say he has but he's asking for you. 1144 01:00:47,900 --> 01:00:49,800 And who else will be there? 1145 01:00:49,900 --> 01:00:51,200 Bob McNamara. 1146 01:01:16,300 --> 01:01:17,300 Bob. 1147 01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:21,200 Mr. and Mrs. McNamara, 1148 01:01:21,300 --> 01:01:23,200 I'd like you to meet my friend, Pat Nugent. 1149 01:01:23,700 --> 01:01:24,600 It's an honor to meet you, sir. 1150 01:01:24,700 --> 01:01:25,600 Pleasure. My wife, Marg. 1151 01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:26,900 Nice to meet you. 1152 01:01:27,100 --> 01:01:28,700 You're in National Guard, where you stationed? 1153 01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:30,600 I'll be at Andrews with the 113th, sir, 1154 01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:32,800 but down to San Antonio first for basic. 1155 01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:34,600 Ah, Lackland Air Force Base, sure. 1156 01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:36,800 Used to call it Kelly back in 42 when I was goin 1157 01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:39,000 around helpin to build an Air Force in this country. 1158 01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:40,600 You know, we only had a handful of planes 1159 01:01:40,700 --> 01:01:41,600 when the Japanese attacked us, 1160 01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:43,300 spread all over the country. 1161 01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:45,000 Is that right? 1162 01:01:45,100 --> 01:01:46,800 And Hap Arnold knew every one of em by name. 1163 01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:49,000 I have some Hap Arnold stories for you. 1164 01:01:50,700 --> 01:01:53,500 Uh, sorry, we'll leave everything till tomorrow, 1165 01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:54,300 we'll talk in the morning. 1166 01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:56,000 I look forward to it. Come on in. 1167 01:02:00,500 --> 01:02:02,800 Let the best minds of our administration 1168 01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:04,800 start looking for a way out 1169 01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:08,600 and stop looking for a way to win this unwinnable war, 1170 01:02:08,700 --> 01:02:11,200 because it is my considered opinion, 1171 01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:13,900 that continuing on that path 1172 01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:19,800 will lead us to catastrophe. 1173 01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:23,400 Any unbiased jury would give you your verdict, Clark, 1174 01:02:23,500 --> 01:02:24,900 no question. 1175 01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:26,200 Good. 1176 01:02:26,700 --> 01:02:30,500 But, if it's true what Moyer says; 1177 01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:33,300 that Lyndon's in McNamara's pocket... 1178 01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:40,100 McNamara has such sway in there. 1179 01:02:40,900 --> 01:02:44,500 Truman took your advice over George Marshalls, for heaven sakes 1180 01:02:44,700 --> 01:02:46,300 Kennedy, too. 1181 01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:49,000 Yeah, but Lyndon is another kettle of fish. 1182 01:02:50,100 --> 01:02:53,900 Give him a new vision, Clark. He'll hear you. 1183 01:02:56,100 --> 01:02:57,800 Rinaldo, leave it there. 1184 01:03:04,500 --> 01:03:06,900 So, these are the numbers. 1185 01:03:07,100 --> 01:03:08,900 Now, you will not be held accountable 1186 01:03:09,100 --> 01:03:11,100 for anything that has happened up till this point, 1187 01:03:11,300 --> 01:03:14,700 in fact, you will be admired for the noble attempt 1188 01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:16,000 you have made to honor your predecessor's 1189 01:03:16,100 --> 01:03:19,900 commitment a commitment that has been exploited by 1190 01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:23,700 that corrupt and self-destructive regime in South Vietnam. 1191 01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:27,300 The bombing might have worked, but it hasn't. 1192 01:03:27,500 --> 01:03:28,700 And to make it work, 1193 01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:31,900 you would have to resort to unconscionable measures 1194 01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:34,300 that would make you a her to those in this country 1195 01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:38,500 you distain and a criminal to those you have sought 1196 01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:41,000 all your life to assist the young and the poor, 1197 01:03:41,500 --> 01:03:43,800 who are the ones who will have to fight this war. 1198 01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:48,100 This, this is not the last inning in the struggle against Communism. 1199 01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:50,100 We must pick those spots 1200 01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:52,000 where the stakes are highest for us 1201 01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:53,100 and where we hold the cards 1202 01:03:53,300 --> 01:03:56,000 that'll give us the greatest opportunity to prevail. 1203 01:03:56,500 --> 01:03:58,800 Ho Chi Minh told the French, 1204 01:03:58,900 --> 01:04:02,300 he said, You will kill ten of my men 1205 01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:04,700 and I will kill only one of yours, 1206 01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:07,900 but in the end, it is you who'll tire. 1207 01:04:08,100 --> 01:04:09,800 And they did, and eleven years ago, 1208 01:04:09,900 --> 01:04:12,500 at the end they just couldn't do it any more. 1209 01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:16,500 The North Vietnamese lost 500,000 in their war against the French 1210 01:04:16,700 --> 01:04:17,800 and they did not tire, 1211 01:04:17,900 --> 01:04:19,300 and they will not tire now. 1212 01:04:19,500 --> 01:04:21,500 Not after you commit a 100,000, 1213 01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:23,300 not after you commit 500,000. 1214 01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:27,300 And if you do not win decisively after a big buildup, 1215 01:04:27,500 --> 01:04:29,500 it will be a huge catastrophe. 1216 01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:33,300 It will destroy the American people's faith in you 1217 01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:36,000 and the democratic party and their government 1218 01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:37,700 for years to come. 1219 01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:40,800 Now, you have always stressed the economic 1220 01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:43,300 and social dimensions of world problems. 1221 01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:45,300 And in this you are unrivaled. 1222 01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:47,900 You have a unique opportunity here 1223 01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:49,600 to address this problem, 1224 01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:51,600 economically and socially. 1225 01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:54,900 Not by war, not by killing people, 1226 01:04:55,300 --> 01:04:58,200 but by helping them here and there. 1227 01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:03,500 This is a year of minimum political risk for you, Mr. President. 1228 01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:07,400 You were elected by the largest landslide in our history, 1229 01:05:07,500 --> 01:05:09,600 the reactionary elements of this society 1230 01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:11,900 will not soon recover 1231 01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:16,000 I foresee little erosion of your prestige and power 1232 01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:19,900 if we cut our loses and get out of Vietnam. 1233 01:05:20,900 --> 01:05:23,200 But I foresee nothing but disaster for you 1234 01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:24,600 and this country 1235 01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:26,600 if we don't. 1236 01:05:27,100 --> 01:05:29,400 If we escalate this war, 1237 01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:33,300 I believe we'll ruin us 1238 01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:35,600 And I believe we'll ruin you 1239 01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:39,200 And all the good you've started to do 1240 01:05:48,100 --> 01:05:52,800 Shit. It's a hot one already. 1241 01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:55,900 You wish you were back in Texas, Mr. President? 1242 01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:59,800 Fellahs, right now I'd rather be on the moon. 1243 01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:08,200 Okay, Bob. 1244 01:06:10,500 --> 01:06:11,100 Mr. President, 1245 01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:14,000 Clark has suggested that the stakes aren't there in Vietnam. 1246 01:06:14,100 --> 01:06:15,200 This is damn shocking. Well, I... 1247 01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:17,600 Here are the stakes: 1248 01:06:17,700 --> 01:06:19,700 Number one. National Security. 1249 01:06:19,900 --> 01:06:21,800 If we back down in Vietnam 1250 01:06:21,900 --> 01:06:23,400 it will only be a matter of time 1251 01:06:23,500 --> 01:06:25,200 before we have to go in some place else. 1252 01:06:25,300 --> 01:06:26,700 Two, the commitment's we've made 1253 01:06:26,900 --> 01:06:27,900 and the price of breaking them 1254 01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:31,000 Three, and Our prestige before the world. 1255 01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:34,500 Could the stakes be any higher? 1256 01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:36,500 To elaborate on Point 1., 1257 01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:40,200 if we withdraw, Laos, Cambodia, Thailand, Burma will fall, 1258 01:06:40,300 --> 01:06:42,400 but the ripple effect will be far greater. 1259 01:06:42,500 --> 01:06:45,400 With Communist agitation increasing in Africa, India, 1260 01:06:45,500 --> 01:06:49,500 even Japan. We will have to give up some bases. 1261 01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:52,500 Pakistan will move closer to China. 1262 01:06:53,100 --> 01:06:54,100 Point two, 1263 01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:57,100 our pledge is a pillar of peace in the world 1264 01:06:57,200 --> 01:06:58,100 and if we break it, 1265 01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:00,200 our allies will lose faith in us. 1266 01:07:00,300 --> 01:07:02,900 And three, because we have so persistently 1267 01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:06,300 and publicly committed ourselves to preventing a Communist 1268 01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:07,700 takeover in South Vietnam, 1269 01:07:07,900 --> 01:07:09,900 our failure to see that commitment 1270 01:07:10,100 --> 01:07:12,400 through will be profoundly devastating 1271 01:07:12,500 --> 01:07:14,100 to our prestige 1272 01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:16,600 this is why I recommend the following 1273 01:07:16,700 --> 01:07:18,900 1, Put the men in. 1274 01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:20,800 Westmoreland's plan is sound, 1275 01:07:20,900 --> 01:07:24,900 every quantitative measurement shows we can win. 1276 01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:27,000 2, Call up the reserves and extend tours of duty 1277 01:07:27,100 --> 01:07:28,800 and 3, Expand the bombing. 1278 01:07:28,900 --> 01:07:31,300 In the North remove restrictions on bridge 1279 01:07:31,500 --> 01:07:32,400 and rail lines, 1280 01:07:32,500 --> 01:07:33,600 mine the harbors. 1281 01:07:33,700 --> 01:07:34,600 Expand Rolling 1282 01:07:34,700 --> 01:07:36,200 Thunder from twenty-five hundred to four thousand 1283 01:07:36,300 --> 01:07:38,200 sorties a month. In the South, 1284 01:07:38,300 --> 01:07:40,300 tactical air strikes must be supplemented 1285 01:07:40,500 --> 01:07:44,000 by increased B-52 bombing of VC base areas. 1286 01:07:44,100 --> 01:07:45,300 Now, to elaborate... 1287 01:07:51,700 --> 01:07:52,800 Clark... 1288 01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:55,700 Clark, I think you scored some terrific points in there, 1289 01:07:55,900 --> 01:07:58,100 I'm so glad you were arguing the other side. 1290 01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:00,500 Well... 1291 01:08:02,300 --> 01:08:04,300 you believe what you've said to the President, 1292 01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:05,900 you're certain we can win? 1293 01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:08,100 Well, I sure hope there's no mistake 1294 01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:10,200 in my confidence on the President's part. 1295 01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:11,700 Well, that's not what I'm asking. 1296 01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:13,700 Clark, I've seen the charts, 1297 01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:14,500 I've run the numbers, 1298 01:08:14,700 --> 01:08:18,300 everything else is... soft, speculation. 1299 01:08:19,900 --> 01:08:21,800 I had dinner with President Kennedy 1300 01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:25,600 just after the Missile Crisis and he told me 1301 01:08:25,700 --> 01:08:27,500 that if it had not been for you, 1302 01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:28,400 keeping your head, 1303 01:08:28,500 --> 01:08:29,900 facing down the chief, 1304 01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:31,300 thinking clearly, 1305 01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:34,000 we might not be alive today. 1306 01:08:34,700 --> 01:08:36,500 Now, there were no charts and numbers then. 1307 01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:37,900 Just judgment. 1308 01:08:38,300 --> 01:08:41,300 You're telling me that it is your judgment that 1309 01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:44,900 this is the best course of action for this country? 1310 01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:46,700 For this president? 1311 01:08:48,500 --> 01:08:51,600 I can only give my best advice. 1312 01:08:51,700 --> 01:08:53,900 That's what I did for Jack Kennedy, 1313 01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:55,600 it's what I'm doing now. 1314 01:08:57,800 --> 01:08:59,300 I'll see you at dinner, Clark. 1315 01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:17,800 You wanna stop somewhere and talk about it? 1316 01:09:17,900 --> 01:09:19,400 I'm all talked out, honey. 1317 01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:21,400 I've done nothing but talk. 1318 01:09:21,500 --> 01:09:23,300 At some point the talkin's gotta end. 1319 01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:25,400 God happens when the talkin ends. 1320 01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:29,800 Lyndon, oh! 1321 01:09:36,500 --> 01:09:37,600 A hundred PhD's among em, 1322 01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:39,400 ten thousand IQ points 1323 01:09:39,500 --> 01:09:41,100 and I can't get an answer I can sit with. 1324 01:09:41,900 --> 01:09:43,200 And if it turns bad, 1325 01:09:43,300 --> 01:09:45,000 they'll say this wouldn't ve happened under Jack Kennedy! 1326 01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:48,000 No, sir! Cause he could do no wrong! 1327 01:09:48,100 --> 01:09:49,000 He leaves a thousand on the beach 1328 01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:51,300 in Cuba and his numbers go up! 1329 01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:04,700 Lyndon, now oh... 1330 01:10:08,700 --> 01:10:10,700 Lyndon, now c mon, honey. 1331 01:10:17,500 --> 01:10:18,600 What do you think of crashin through 1332 01:10:18,700 --> 01:10:21,400 that damn gate and drivin back to Texas? 1333 01:10:22,500 --> 01:10:24,800 Now you know you'd get no argument from me. 1334 01:10:25,700 --> 01:10:27,300 You hate it that much? 1335 01:10:28,700 --> 01:10:31,500 Have you ever considered the shoes I've had to fill? 1336 01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:34,000 She didn't die with him. 1337 01:10:34,100 --> 01:10:35,500 Oh, he didn't die. 1338 01:10:35,700 --> 01:10:38,600 He's more alive than ever cause his half-size brother 1339 01:10:38,700 --> 01:10:39,700 with one-and-a-half his brains 1340 01:10:39,900 --> 01:10:42,300 and a tenth his scruples ate his heart out 1341 01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:43,800 and took in his spirit 1342 01:10:43,900 --> 01:10:46,100 as sure as he was out of some Injun story. 1343 01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:49,600 And me, I'll be President What's His Name, 1344 01:10:49,700 --> 01:10:51,200 who came between the two, 1345 01:10:51,700 --> 01:10:54,500 the President who lost America's first war. 1346 01:10:59,700 --> 01:11:03,700 Why must young Americans, born into a land exultant 1347 01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:09,300 with hope and with golden promises toil and suffer and 1348 01:11:09,500 --> 01:11:12,100 sometimes die in such a remote 1349 01:11:12,300 --> 01:11:15,200 and distant place as Vietnam? 1350 01:11:15,900 --> 01:11:19,000 It is because in the fight for freedom, 1351 01:11:19,700 --> 01:11:24,600 the American people have learned that retreat does not bring safety, 1352 01:11:24,700 --> 01:11:27,600 and weakness does not bring peace. 1353 01:11:28,700 --> 01:11:31,300 If we are driven from the field in Vietnam, 1354 01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:37,100 then no nation can ever again have the same confidence 1355 01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:39,500 in American promises, 1356 01:11:39,700 --> 01:11:41,700 or in American protection. 1357 01:11:43,500 --> 01:11:46,900 We did not choose to be the guardians of the gate, 1358 01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:49,500 but there is no one else. 1359 01:11:50,500 --> 01:11:53,600 Nor would surrender in Vietnam bring peace. 1360 01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:56,900 Because we learned from Hitler at Munch, 1361 01:11:57,000 --> 01:12:01,000 that success only feeds the appetite of aggression. 1362 01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:06,200 I've asked the Commanding General, General Westmoreland, 1363 01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:09,800 what more he needs to meet this mounting aggression. 1364 01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:14,900 He has told me and we will meet his needs. 1365 01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:19,900 I have today ordered to Vietnam the Airmobile Division 1366 01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:22,000 and certain other forces 1367 01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:25,800 which will raise our fighting strength from 75,000 to 1368 01:12:25,900 --> 01:12:29,800 125,000 men almost immediately. 1369 01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:33,400 Additional forces will be needed later, 1370 01:12:33,500 --> 01:12:35,600 and they will be sent as requested. 1371 01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:37,000 Yeah, but how many? 1372 01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:44,800 Now, I do not find it easy to send the flower of our youth, 1373 01:12:45,900 --> 01:12:49,000 our finest young men into battle. 1374 01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:52,100 I think I know how their mothers weep 1375 01:12:52,500 --> 01:12:54,400 and their families sorrows. 1376 01:12:55,100 --> 01:12:58,000 Mr. Secretary, Senator Morse has been calling Vietnam, 1377 01:12:58,100 --> 01:13:00,800 McNamara's War. What is your reaction? 1378 01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:04,600 This is a war of the United States Government. 1379 01:13:04,700 --> 01:13:06,700 I am following the President's policy 1380 01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:08,900 and working in close cooperation with the Secretary of State. 1381 01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:10,700 Now I must say I don't object to 1382 01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:12,500 it being called McNamara's War, 1383 01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:14,200 I think it's a very important war one 1384 01:13:14,300 --> 01:13:16,100 that I'm pleased to be identified with 1385 01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:17,800 and to do what I can to win it. 1386 01:13:17,900 --> 01:13:19,500 Appearing on Meet the Press yesterday 1387 01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:22,100 McNamara was asked to comment on Hanoi's claim 1388 01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:25,000 that some 10,000 civilians have been killed in the bombing, 1389 01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:27,200 including thousands of women and children. 1390 01:13:27,300 --> 01:13:30,300 Some loss of innocent life is unavoidable in an operation 1391 01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:31,600 such as this, 1392 01:13:31,700 --> 01:13:33,200 I can tell you that we are taking every 1393 01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:35,700 possible precaution in choosing targets, 1394 01:13:35,900 --> 01:13:38,500 the risk of civilian casualties is most assuredly 1395 01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:40,900 one of several factors considered. 1396 01:13:51,900 --> 01:13:53,800 So, what target are you recommending? 1397 01:13:55,100 --> 01:13:57,400 There's a cement factory along a major rail line. 1398 01:13:58,300 --> 01:14:01,200 General Wheeler feels military value is marginal. 1399 01:14:01,300 --> 01:14:03,700 But the monsoon has sucked in more valuable targets. 1400 01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:07,400 What's the output of the facility? 1401 01:14:07,500 --> 01:14:09,800 It appears to be small, sir, even by their standards. 1402 01:14:09,900 --> 01:14:10,700 It couldn't produce enough 1403 01:14:10,900 --> 01:14:12,300 for them to rely heavily on the output. 1404 01:14:12,500 --> 01:14:14,000 Let's give it a C for military value, 1405 01:14:14,100 --> 01:14:14,900 what's your risk analysis? 1406 01:14:15,100 --> 01:14:18,100 Risk of pilots is close to zero. 1407 01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:19,700 There might be some small arms fire, 1408 01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:23,300 but recon shows no antiaircraft emplacements. 1409 01:14:27,100 --> 01:14:28,400 No megs in the area? 1410 01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:31,200 They'll be protecting more valuable targets and probably 1411 01:14:31,300 --> 01:14:32,800 won't risk losing them defending this one. 1412 01:14:32,900 --> 01:14:33,700 Depending on cloud cover, 1413 01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:36,500 we may have to come in low enough to be in range of small arms 1414 01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:38,100 but this is a small risk. 1415 01:14:38,300 --> 01:14:40,200 Give it an A for risk of pilots and aircraft, 1416 01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:41,400 what's your flashpoint analysis? 1417 01:14:41,500 --> 01:14:44,000 The target is more than twenty miles outside Hanoi so 1418 01:14:44,100 --> 01:14:46,900 there's little risk of provoking China or Russia. 1419 01:14:48,300 --> 01:14:49,900 Cosigan or Mau won't be down there 1420 01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:52,100 touring the factory that day, will they? 1421 01:14:52,500 --> 01:14:55,500 This isn't one of Russia or China's friendship projects? 1422 01:14:56,100 --> 01:14:58,200 A gift from the motherland? 1423 01:14:58,300 --> 01:15:00,100 Well, if I were Ho Chi Minh, 1424 01:15:00,300 --> 01:15:02,000 I would have returned this gift. 1425 01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:04,100 Of course, catching one of them 1426 01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:06,000 there might have been a nice bonus for us. 1427 01:15:06,100 --> 01:15:09,100 Thanks, but I've already been to the brink of nuclear 1428 01:15:09,300 --> 01:15:11,200 annihilation and I'm not eager to go back. 1429 01:15:12,900 --> 01:15:14,800 Give it an A for flashpoint risk. 1430 01:15:14,900 --> 01:15:16,300 Next. What about civilians? 1431 01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:17,900 We're clear of residential 1432 01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:20,400 except for one row of hooches behind the facility. 1433 01:15:20,500 --> 01:15:23,300 So what are these, houses or storage shacks or what? 1434 01:15:23,400 --> 01:15:26,600 Well, we can't be sure uh, most likely the factory 1435 01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:28,200 managers and their families live there. 1436 01:15:28,300 --> 01:15:29,200 I'm not too familiar 1437 01:15:29,300 --> 01:15:31,700 with Southeast Asian home construction, sir. 1438 01:15:34,700 --> 01:15:36,300 We could certainly use someone who knows something 1439 01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:38,300 about Vietnamese culture around here. 1440 01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:43,200 So, what's the outside number of civilians? 1441 01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:47,100 Well, four hooches this size, we use six per so, 1442 01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:48,300 twentyfour. 1443 01:15:50,500 --> 01:15:53,400 Twenty-four for a target this size, that seems high. 1444 01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:55,000 That's how we figure it, sir. 1445 01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:57,300 I mean that seems a high number to lose 1446 01:15:57,400 --> 01:15:58,800 for a target like this. 1447 01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:00,700 Give it a D for civilian casualties 1448 01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:02,100 let's see what we've got, 1449 01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:04,400 C, A, A, D... 1450 01:16:04,500 --> 01:16:06,100 let's give it a solid C+ 1451 01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:07,700 and put it before the President. 1452 01:16:07,800 --> 01:16:08,900 All right, what's the... 1453 01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:10,000 Jesus, there's a guy on the wall 1454 01:16:10,100 --> 01:16:11,400 at the river entrance! 1455 01:16:19,100 --> 01:16:19,800 Look at that guy. 1456 01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:21,400 Hey, wait a minute! Stop! 1457 01:16:23,900 --> 01:16:25,800 Stop! Don't! Don't! 1458 01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:32,300 Get down from there! Get off! 1459 01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:36,300 Please, please, the baby, stop! Stop! 1460 01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:12,600 Yes, Mr. President? 1461 01:17:12,700 --> 01:17:14,300 You wanted to see me? 1462 01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:15,400 Yes, sir. 1463 01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:17,000 You could come down now. 1464 01:18:19,400 --> 01:18:20,500 Yes, Dick? 1465 01:18:21,700 --> 01:18:25,700 Mr. President, as uh Bill Moyers told you, 1466 01:18:25,800 --> 01:18:27,100 I've been offered a fellowship 1467 01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:29,200 at Wesleyan University in Connecticut 1468 01:18:29,300 --> 01:18:30,600 Well, good for you. 1469 01:18:30,700 --> 01:18:32,400 Ha! That ain't easy to get. 1470 01:18:32,500 --> 01:18:34,300 No, no, I'm very fortunate. 1471 01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:36,000 Well, don't wait too long to turn it down 1472 01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:38,300 so they can call the next guy on the list. 1473 01:18:39,900 --> 01:18:42,800 Mr. President, I have already accepted. 1474 01:18:42,900 --> 01:18:45,500 No, problem. You didn't know you weren't free to go. 1475 01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:48,100 Call em up, put me on if they give you any trouble. 1476 01:18:48,300 --> 01:18:49,800 What do you mean I'm not free to go? 1477 01:18:49,900 --> 01:18:53,300 I mean you can't go. Can't get along without you. 1478 01:18:53,500 --> 01:18:55,000 That makes you a pretty big fellah. 1479 01:18:55,100 --> 01:18:57,700 How big a fellah you gonna be with some fellowship? 1480 01:18:57,800 --> 01:19:00,200 Well, you've got along without me before I came. 1481 01:19:03,400 --> 01:19:04,700 You want more money? 1482 01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:07,300 I got plenty of money. 1483 01:19:07,400 --> 01:19:09,600 I'll arrange a payment from the Johnson Foundation. 1484 01:19:09,700 --> 01:19:11,800 Money isn't the issue, Mr. President. 1485 01:19:11,900 --> 01:19:13,600 This is something that I want to do. 1486 01:19:13,700 --> 01:19:16,500 Well, it ain't gonna be, so make your call. 1487 01:19:23,100 --> 01:19:27,200 Mr. President, I uh, I'm very sorry. 1488 01:19:29,300 --> 01:19:30,700 Well now, Dick... 1489 01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:33,500 you either stay here with me or you go 1490 01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:35,900 over to the Pentagon and get yourself a pair of shiny 1491 01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:38,300 black boots, because there's a statute, 1492 01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:39,300 I asked McNamara, 1493 01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:40,900 says we can draft specialists vital 1494 01:19:41,100 --> 01:19:42,200 to the National Interest 1495 01:19:42,300 --> 01:19:43,700 and that's what I'll do. 1496 01:19:44,700 --> 01:19:46,500 You won't to serve here, 1497 01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:48,700 you know where I can send you. 1498 01:19:49,100 --> 01:19:50,100 Will you make me a General? 1499 01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:51,500 No, you won't want to be a General. 1500 01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:53,200 You'll want to be a Private Marine infantry, 1501 01:19:53,300 --> 01:19:54,700 that's where the action is, 1502 01:19:54,900 --> 01:19:56,800 I know you like to be around the action, 1503 01:19:56,900 --> 01:19:58,400 that's why you stayed here so long. 1504 01:20:00,300 --> 01:20:01,600 You listen to me, Dick, 1505 01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:06,600 you go ahead and take your fellowship 1506 01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:11,000 but your hands are all over this. 1507 01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:13,600 You and Moyers and Bundy and everybody else talkin 1508 01:20:13,700 --> 01:20:15,200 about jumpin ship! 1509 01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:17,200 But most of all, you. 1510 01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:20,600 You put your name all over the Great Society, 1511 01:20:21,100 --> 01:20:23,200 you put the tune to those words of war, too 1512 01:20:23,300 --> 01:20:24,900 and hidin out on some college campus 1513 01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:26,700 or anything else you ever do 1514 01:20:26,900 --> 01:20:28,600 is never gonna change that! 1515 01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:30,000 Dismissed! 1516 01:20:42,700 --> 01:20:46,200 An entire generation of North Vietnamese have been born 1517 01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:49,600 and lived and died in the pursuit of one thing 1518 01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:52,100 a united Vietnam under Communist rule 1519 01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:57,000 The North Vietnamese have never known anything but war. 1520 01:20:57,800 --> 01:20:59,700 At CIA we've just completed a study of 1521 01:20:59,900 --> 01:21:02,600 their staggering recuperative abilities. 1522 01:21:02,700 --> 01:21:03,800 Bridges, 1523 01:21:04,700 --> 01:21:06,700 this one was knocked out in a morning raid, 1524 01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:09,900 two hours later some bamboo planks 1525 01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:11,700 across a bunch of wooden canal boats 1526 01:21:11,900 --> 01:21:13,200 and there's foot traffic again. 1527 01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:15,700 By three p.m. 1528 01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:20,600 it's a pontoon bridge, strong enough for a fully-loaded truck. 1529 01:21:20,700 --> 01:21:23,100 A bomb knocks out a rail line, 1530 01:21:23,200 --> 01:21:25,300 they call the bicycle brigades. 1531 01:21:25,700 --> 01:21:27,600 1532 01:21:27,700 --> 01:21:30,100 some as old as seventy or seventy-five, 1533 01:21:30,300 --> 01:21:32,300 put the cargo on their bikes, 1534 01:21:32,400 --> 01:21:34,100 each one balances up to a six hundred 1535 01:21:34,200 --> 01:21:36,100 pound load across the frame, 1536 01:21:36,200 --> 01:21:37,700 they wheel it across a jerry-rigged 1537 01:21:37,900 --> 01:21:38,600 bridge to another train 1538 01:21:38,700 --> 01:21:41,100 waiting to move it on south. 1539 01:21:41,200 --> 01:21:44,700 Filling a bomb crater to make a road passable again, 1540 01:21:45,100 --> 01:21:46,600 that's as routine to a school kid there 1541 01:21:46,700 --> 01:21:49,100 as getting a malt down at the corner shop here. 1542 01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:51,100 It's a first date. 1543 01:21:51,700 --> 01:21:54,500 They have a brand of cigarettes, Mr. President, 1544 01:21:54,600 --> 01:21:58,300 called Dienbienphu that's their Yorktown, 1545 01:21:58,500 --> 01:22:02,100 their Waterloo where they defeated the French in 54. 1546 01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:05,500 Reminders of war are in the most casual 1547 01:22:05,700 --> 01:22:06,900 moments of daily life. 1548 01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:11,000 In a smoke, Mr. President, their heroes, 1549 01:22:11,500 --> 01:22:12,700 he kid who was put to death 1550 01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:16,900 for trying to assassinate Secretary McNamara last year in Saigon, 1551 01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:19,100 there's a song about him, 1552 01:22:19,300 --> 01:22:20,600 It's a top ten hit. 1553 01:22:21,300 --> 01:22:23,000 And Norman Morrison. 1554 01:22:24,100 --> 01:22:25,300 Norman Morrison was the Quaker 1555 01:22:25,400 --> 01:22:27,200 who burned himself to death 1556 01:22:27,300 --> 01:22:30,500 in front of the Pentagon last month, 1557 01:22:30,600 --> 01:22:32,300 a great hero. 1558 01:22:33,900 --> 01:22:36,300 Hanoi just issued a postage stamp. 1559 01:22:36,400 --> 01:22:38,000 Thank you, John. Thank you, Scott. 1560 01:22:39,400 --> 01:22:40,800 A great hero? 1561 01:22:42,700 --> 01:22:45,700 He almost took his one year old daughter with him a baby! 1562 01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:48,900 It's a miracle she was unharmed. 1563 01:22:50,900 --> 01:22:52,600 The man was disturbed. 1564 01:22:52,700 --> 01:22:54,700 Three young children are fatherless. 1565 01:22:59,600 --> 01:23:00,500 Hero. 1566 01:23:03,900 --> 01:23:07,600 So, what do we do? 1567 01:23:08,700 --> 01:23:12,100 Mr. president, the most strategic targets in North Vietnam 1568 01:23:12,200 --> 01:23:16,000 remain intact because Hanoi and Haiphong 1569 01:23:16,100 --> 01:23:17,500 continue to be off-limits. 1570 01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:19,200 We're not hitting their oil supply, 1571 01:23:19,300 --> 01:23:21,700 major power plants, rail links to China. 1572 01:23:21,800 --> 01:23:23,900 We're not mining the ports, hitting the dikes... 1573 01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:26,800 CIA says hittin the dikes would flood the whole damn country! 1574 01:23:26,900 --> 01:23:29,100 Kill the rice crop! Starve em to death! 1575 01:23:29,200 --> 01:23:30,300 Isn't that right? 1576 01:23:31,300 --> 01:23:31,800 Yes, sir. 1577 01:23:31,900 --> 01:23:34,100 And I have one more problem for your big computer, 1578 01:23:34,300 --> 01:23:37,300 ask how long it'll take 500,000 angry Americans 1579 01:23:37,400 --> 01:23:40,600 to climb that White House wall and lynch their President 1580 01:23:40,700 --> 01:23:42,000 he does somethin like that!? 1581 01:23:42,100 --> 01:23:45,200 This is why the Chiefs and I have been urging for months 1582 01:23:45,300 --> 01:23:47,000 that we take the next logical step 1583 01:23:47,100 --> 01:23:48,500 and destroy their oil reserves. 1584 01:23:48,700 --> 01:23:50,700 Nothin stopped em yet, why should that stop em!? 1585 01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:52,700 That oil goes in trucks, Mr. President, 1586 01:23:52,900 --> 01:23:55,200 trucks that carry troops and guns and bullets 1587 01:23:55,300 --> 01:23:57,000 across the border to kill our men. 1588 01:23:57,100 --> 01:23:59,400 They don't need damn trucks! 1589 01:23:59,500 --> 01:24:00,900 Weren't you watchin !? 1590 01:24:01,100 --> 01:24:04,300 They got hundred year old women auling crap! 1591 01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:05,100 What do you want me to do, 1592 01:24:05,300 --> 01:24:07,300 kill everybody's grandmother in that place!? 1593 01:24:09,200 --> 01:24:11,700 Mr. President, Ambassador Dobrynin says 1594 01:24:11,900 --> 01:24:14,700 that Moscow would try to bring Hanoi to the table 1595 01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:16,700 if we stop the bombing for three or four weeks. 1596 01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:19,500 This would be a grave mistake, Mr. President. 1597 01:24:19,700 --> 01:24:21,700 They'll send down everything they can 1598 01:24:21,800 --> 01:24:22,900 Westy's against it, 1599 01:24:23,100 --> 01:24:24,400 Admiral Sharp, Bob, 1600 01:24:24,500 --> 01:24:26,900 I know apposes it and every one of the Chiefs. 1601 01:24:27,100 --> 01:24:30,900 Look, the North Vietnamese have 9 regiments down there, 1602 01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:32,900 we thought they had 3. 1603 01:24:33,100 --> 01:24:36,500 VC has more than doubled theirs from 5 to 12, 1604 01:24:36,600 --> 01:24:38,700 which is twice our build up. 1605 01:24:38,800 --> 01:24:42,800 And I just feel that we need to do something 1606 01:24:42,900 --> 01:24:45,700 before we send another 200,000 men over there. 1607 01:24:45,900 --> 01:24:49,900 Yes, Bob, we can try bombing them where it hurts. 1608 01:24:50,300 --> 01:24:53,300 The enemy lost over a thousand in recent fighting, 1609 01:24:53,500 --> 01:24:54,000 didn't they? 1610 01:24:54,100 --> 01:24:55,900 They lost 1,200 in the Ia Drang Valley 1611 01:24:56,100 --> 01:24:57,900 and we lost 300. 1612 01:24:58,000 --> 01:25:00,500 But it's clear they're willing to take those kinds of casualties, 1613 01:25:00,700 --> 01:25:02,600 which is something we were not counting on. 1614 01:25:02,700 --> 01:25:04,100 Some where not counting on. 1615 01:25:04,600 --> 01:25:09,600 Bob, are you now sayin that no matter what we do 1616 01:25:09,800 --> 01:25:12,800 militarily there's no sure victory? 1617 01:25:13,500 --> 01:25:16,800 I believe we may have been overly optimistic about an early end. 1618 01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:19,300 China, Russia, although they do not want a general war, 1619 01:25:19,500 --> 01:25:21,200 have stepped up their aid. 1620 01:25:21,300 --> 01:25:23,500 Just a moment, gentlemen, 1621 01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:25,600 the President undertook this program 1622 01:25:25,700 --> 01:25:29,700 because General Westmoreland was confident we could win. 1623 01:25:29,900 --> 01:25:32,300 Why are we considering / another 200,000 1624 01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:34,600 if you now believe victory to be unlikely? 1625 01:25:34,700 --> 01:25:36,700 That's my question. 1626 01:25:36,800 --> 01:25:39,900 I still believe we can win. 1627 01:25:41,100 --> 01:25:43,700 But if there is the slightest chance of obtaining a settlement 1628 01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:46,900 without sending over hundreds of thousands more men, 1629 01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:48,500 and hitting their cities, 1630 01:25:49,700 --> 01:25:51,000 I think we should do it. 1631 01:25:51,700 --> 01:25:53,900 Right now we are incurring significant casualties, 1632 01:25:54,100 --> 01:25:58,500 if the buildup continues we may be facing a thousand per month. 1633 01:25:59,900 --> 01:26:02,000 And if Hanoi won't talk, 1634 01:26:02,700 --> 01:26:04,100 it will only make our position 1635 01:26:04,300 --> 01:26:05,700 with the American people stronger 1636 01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:08,500 and they will be more likely to accept these kinds of loses. 1637 01:26:08,700 --> 01:26:10,700 We could have a thousand casualties a month 1638 01:26:10,900 --> 01:26:12,300 if we do this, Mr. President! 1639 01:26:12,400 --> 01:26:15,000 It's my job to protect our troops, 1640 01:26:15,100 --> 01:26:17,900 every truck, every sampan that gets through 1641 01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:19,700 means more dead Americans, 1642 01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:22,500 they'll send down missiles, anti-air craft guns, 1643 01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:23,500 it'll set us back a year! 1644 01:26:23,700 --> 01:26:24,500 All right, wait a minute now, all right... 1645 01:26:24,700 --> 01:26:26,600 It seems to me that if we're this pessimistic, 1646 01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:28,400 winning battles, yet predicting stalemates 1647 01:26:28,500 --> 01:26:29,900 just five months after going in, 1648 01:26:30,100 --> 01:26:31,700 we should pause the bombing and see what results. 1649 01:26:31,900 --> 01:26:34,400 I'm sorry, George, but I must disagree. 1650 01:26:34,900 --> 01:26:38,200 If we pause the bombing and it fails, 1651 01:26:38,300 --> 01:26:40,300 the President will be under irresistible pressure 1652 01:26:40,500 --> 01:26:43,100 from the right-wing hawks in Congress to bomb Hanoi, 1653 01:26:43,300 --> 01:26:44,600 to bomb the Red River dikes. 1654 01:26:44,700 --> 01:26:45,500 That'll flood the country 1655 01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:49,100 and create a civilian disaster of such magnitude 1656 01:26:49,700 --> 01:26:52,200 I do not believe that North Vietnam will talk 1657 01:26:52,300 --> 01:26:53,800 until they come to the realization 1658 01:26:54,000 --> 01:26:56,200 that this will be a stalemate that they cannot win 1659 01:26:56,400 --> 01:26:57,500 Now they're not there. 1660 01:26:57,600 --> 01:26:58,500 They're unrelenting buildup 1661 01:26:58,700 --> 01:27:01,700 in the South clearly indicates that they believe they can win. 1662 01:27:01,800 --> 01:27:05,300 Are you now sayin that we have no choice 1663 01:27:05,400 --> 01:27:07,900 but to continue to match them man for man? 1664 01:27:08,900 --> 01:27:13,300 Well, you made that decision, Mr. President, we are there, 1665 01:27:13,400 --> 01:27:15,100 you have convinced the American people 1666 01:27:15,200 --> 01:27:16,600 that we should be there. 1667 01:27:17,500 --> 01:27:18,800 I see no alternative 1668 01:27:18,900 --> 01:27:22,100 but for you to make your best effort to win. 1669 01:27:22,300 --> 01:27:24,100 I couldn't believe my ears! 1670 01:27:24,200 --> 01:27:25,200 Clifford about-facin, 1671 01:27:25,300 --> 01:27:26,700 McNamara goin soft! 1672 01:27:26,900 --> 01:27:28,900 They're all changin their tune now. 1673 01:27:29,000 --> 01:27:31,500 And Ole George McBundy got with the Soviet Ambassador, 1674 01:27:31,600 --> 01:27:32,900 got a little vodka in him, 1675 01:27:33,000 --> 01:27:34,900 and those Harvard types that'll believe anything outta diplomat! 1676 01:27:35,000 --> 01:27:39,000 I don't believe for a minute that Moscow wants peace. 1677 01:27:39,100 --> 01:27:41,600 You don't have to take his advice if you believe it will fail. 1678 01:27:41,700 --> 01:27:43,200 Didn't you hear anything! 1679 01:27:43,300 --> 01:27:45,300 Don't you know if I don't pause the bombing now, 1680 01:27:45,500 --> 01:27:47,200 the Kennedys'll all shout from the mountaintops 1681 01:27:47,300 --> 01:27:49,700 that the Russians held out a big fat olive branch 1682 01:27:49,800 --> 01:27:53,300 and I snapped it in two and now I've missed my chance for peace! 1683 01:28:02,400 --> 01:28:04,100 So how's academic life? 1684 01:28:04,700 --> 01:28:06,200 Not nearly as challenging. 1685 01:28:07,400 --> 01:28:10,300 But I can say I've been getting a lot more sleep. 1686 01:28:10,400 --> 01:28:13,800 Well, someone has to deal with these things. 1687 01:28:14,500 --> 01:28:16,200 You certainly have the floor space. 1688 01:28:17,500 --> 01:28:19,900 That I do. That I do. 1689 01:28:23,500 --> 01:28:24,900 You know the guy in that portrait? 1690 01:28:26,500 --> 01:28:27,400 James Forrestal. 1691 01:28:27,500 --> 01:28:31,000 That's right. Truman's Secretary of Defense. 1692 01:28:32,200 --> 01:28:34,100 The guy went absolutely nuts. 1693 01:28:35,300 --> 01:28:36,900 When Truman finally got rid of him, 1694 01:28:37,300 --> 01:28:39,000 he pinned him with a service medal, 1695 01:28:39,500 --> 01:28:41,000 he just stood there mute, 1696 01:28:41,500 --> 01:28:45,300 his throat clamped God knows what demons going through his mind. 1697 01:28:47,400 --> 01:28:50,700 A couple days later he jumped out of the 16th floor of Bethesda Naval. 1698 01:28:56,700 --> 01:29:00,200 Sometimes, you can wrestle too much. 1699 01:29:01,700 --> 01:29:05,400 Bob, we both came in with Jack Kennedy. 1700 01:29:05,500 --> 01:29:06,500 We were around when this started. 1701 01:29:06,600 --> 01:29:09,000 Vietnam started with Eisenhower and neither of us were here. 1702 01:29:09,200 --> 01:29:12,400 I know, and it was Kennedy who put in all those socalled advisors. 1703 01:29:12,600 --> 01:29:15,300 But, I can't believe that had he lived we'd be in this ditch. 1704 01:29:15,400 --> 01:29:16,700 You sound like you've been talking to Bobby. 1705 01:29:16,900 --> 01:29:18,300 He's your friend, what's he telling you? 1706 01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:25,400 If you told the President to stop the bombing he'd stop it. 1707 01:29:25,600 --> 01:29:28,000 We have stopped the bombing, under my recommendation. 1708 01:29:28,200 --> 01:29:29,500 You paused it. 1709 01:29:30,200 --> 01:29:31,800 Hanoi knows that you're gonna start up again 1710 01:29:31,900 --> 01:29:33,100 if they don't agree to talk, 1711 01:29:33,200 --> 01:29:36,300 and they have said a hundred times they won't knuckle under to that. 1712 01:29:36,400 --> 01:29:38,800 Now, if you told the President that you no longer 1713 01:29:39,000 --> 01:29:39,900 believe the bombing can work... 1714 01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:41,500 I never said I believed that. 1715 01:29:41,700 --> 01:29:44,000 Bobby says you told him it's not worth a damn. 1716 01:29:44,100 --> 01:29:46,000 Well, that's between Bobby and me. 1717 01:29:46,100 --> 01:29:48,500 And as far as my influence with the President is concerned, 1718 01:29:48,700 --> 01:29:49,800 I think you over-estimate my pull. 1719 01:29:50,000 --> 01:29:51,700 I don't see how that's possible. 1720 01:29:53,600 --> 01:29:58,100 Peace Talks that's the only way out of this thing now. 1721 01:30:03,300 --> 01:30:05,000 You stop the bombing for thirty days, 1722 01:30:07,300 --> 01:30:09,400 the brass is ready to hang me, 1723 01:30:09,600 --> 01:30:13,300 God, I sure hope Hanoi wants to take the bait because... 1724 01:30:17,600 --> 01:30:21,000 I just don't think we're going to be able to beat these people. 1725 01:30:22,600 --> 01:30:26,000 So, are you going public with your views? 1726 01:30:34,300 --> 01:30:35,800 I'm thinkin about it. 1727 01:30:39,000 --> 01:30:41,200 Well, you are free to do that now, aren't you? 1728 01:30:52,700 --> 01:30:54,000 Is that where it happened? 1729 01:30:54,600 --> 01:30:59,300 Yep. It's incredible. 1730 01:31:02,600 --> 01:31:05,100 Absolutely incredible. 1731 01:31:06,000 --> 01:31:07,400 For twenty days now, 1732 01:31:07,600 --> 01:31:10,000 we and our South Vietnamese allies 1733 01:31:10,200 --> 01:31:12,800 have dropped no bombs on North Vietnam. 1734 01:31:13,400 --> 01:31:17,500 We seek neither territory, nor bases, 1735 01:31:18,000 --> 01:31:22,400 economic domination or military alliance in Vietnam. 1736 01:31:23,100 --> 01:31:26,200 We fight for the principle of self-determination, 1737 01:31:26,300 --> 01:31:28,000 for the people of South Vietnam 1738 01:31:28,200 --> 01:31:31,100 to be able to chose their own course, 1739 01:31:31,700 --> 01:31:36,200 chose it in free elections without violence, 1740 01:31:36,300 --> 01:31:39,600 without terror, and without fear. 1741 01:31:47,200 --> 01:31:51,100 We have said all this and we have asked 1742 01:31:51,200 --> 01:31:54,800 and hoped and we have waited for a response. 1743 01:31:56,200 --> 01:31:58,000 None has come. 1744 01:31:58,600 --> 01:32:02,400 I believe that we can continue the Great Society, 1745 01:32:03,000 --> 01:32:04,800 while we fight in Vietnam, 1746 01:32:05,600 --> 01:32:08,100 yet there are those who cry out, 1747 01:32:08,800 --> 01:32:11,200 We must sacrifice. 1748 01:32:11,600 --> 01:32:13,300 Well, let us rather ask them, 1749 01:32:13,400 --> 01:32:15,300 Who will they sacrifice? 1750 01:32:16,100 --> 01:32:18,500 Are they gonna sacrifice the children 1751 01:32:18,600 --> 01:32:19,900 who seek their learning, 1752 01:32:20,500 --> 01:32:22,900 or the sick who need medical care, 1753 01:32:23,600 --> 01:32:26,000 or the families that dwell in squalor 1754 01:32:26,100 --> 01:32:28,400 now brightened by the hope of home? 1755 01:32:29,600 --> 01:32:33,900 Will they sacrifice opportunity for the distressed, 1756 01:32:34,000 --> 01:32:37,500 the beauty of our land and the hope of our poor? 1757 01:32:50,500 --> 01:32:53,600 Vietnam has been fighting for it's independence for 4,000 years. 1758 01:32:53,700 --> 01:32:55,600 We have defeated the Mongols three times 1759 01:32:55,800 --> 01:32:58,600 and despite all of his bluster and all his bombs, 1760 01:32:58,700 --> 01:33:02,100 Emperor Johnson is not nearly as terrifying as Genghis Khan. 1761 01:33:04,900 --> 01:33:07,400 Ho Chi Minh s statement over Hanoi radio this morning. 1762 01:33:13,000 --> 01:33:14,200 Thirty-seven days. 1763 01:33:15,900 --> 01:33:20,800 Thirty-seven days now, not one bomb has fallen, 1764 01:33:22,000 --> 01:33:23,500 this is our answer. 1765 01:33:25,000 --> 01:33:26,600 This is our answer. 1766 01:33:31,900 --> 01:33:33,200 What now, Bob? 1767 01:33:38,000 --> 01:33:41,200 Hanoi and Haiphong harbor. 1768 01:33:42,000 --> 01:33:45,300 As you can see, they're in very concentrated areas. 1769 01:33:45,400 --> 01:33:48,200 The tanks and refineries are within a short distance 1770 01:33:48,400 --> 01:33:50,100 of residential sections. 1771 01:33:50,500 --> 01:33:51,900 What about the Russian oil ships? 1772 01:33:52,000 --> 01:33:54,900 They offload with a 250 foot floating pipeline. 1773 01:33:55,400 --> 01:33:57,800 That's why we're targeting the distribution tanks, 1774 01:33:58,000 --> 01:34:00,200 some 1500 feet from the vessels. 1775 01:34:00,300 --> 01:34:02,800 But still quite close to the residential areas. 1776 01:34:02,800 --> 01:34:03,800 That's correct. 1777 01:34:03,900 --> 01:34:06,800 And I understand that they purposely situation strategic 1778 01:34:06,900 --> 01:34:08,000 targets close to neighborhoods. 1779 01:34:08,100 --> 01:34:10,000 What about those ships, can they shoot back? 1780 01:34:10,200 --> 01:34:12,300 No, sir. They're unarmed. 1781 01:34:12,800 --> 01:34:15,700 But the tanks are protected by surface-to-air missiles. 1782 01:34:15,800 --> 01:34:19,100 The Russians sent them down during the bombing pause. 1783 01:34:19,600 --> 01:34:21,200 How many planes will we lose? 1784 01:34:21,800 --> 01:34:23,100 Twenty to twenty-five. 1785 01:34:23,200 --> 01:34:24,000 How many casualties? 1786 01:34:24,200 --> 01:34:25,300 Fifty. 1787 01:34:26,300 --> 01:34:29,800 And if the bombs miss, 1788 01:34:29,900 --> 01:34:33,600 it could go as high as 12,000 with 50% of these civilians 1789 01:34:33,800 --> 01:34:35,700 and 50% of those killed. 1790 01:34:35,900 --> 01:34:38,900 Of course we don't plan these strikes to miss our targets. 1791 01:34:41,700 --> 01:34:43,200 But you do miss sometimes. 1792 01:34:44,800 --> 01:34:47,000 And this time you could hit a Russian ship 1793 01:34:47,100 --> 01:34:47,900 and the bomber pilot, 1794 01:34:48,100 --> 01:34:50,200 he'll be a kid from Johnson City, Texas. 1795 01:34:50,300 --> 01:34:52,800 That'll be the kid that starts World War III, 1796 01:34:52,900 --> 01:34:54,400 thank you very much. 1797 01:34:55,800 --> 01:34:56,700 All right, 1798 01:34:58,600 --> 01:35:01,300 so what great things will result from this plan? 1799 01:35:01,700 --> 01:35:02,800 With no oil, 1800 01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:05,900 their entire infiltration effort will grind to a halt, 1801 01:35:06,000 --> 01:35:08,400 from manufacturing to transportation. 1802 01:35:08,500 --> 01:35:11,000 Their war making capability will be destroyed 1803 01:35:11,200 --> 01:35:13,000 and they will have to negotiate. 1804 01:35:15,700 --> 01:35:16,700 Dean? 1805 01:35:18,900 --> 01:35:22,100 The Chinese and the Soviets will step up aid. 1806 01:35:22,600 --> 01:35:24,400 And we could lose the support of Canada, 1807 01:35:24,600 --> 01:35:28,700 Japan and the Chinese representation issue at the UN. 1808 01:35:29,800 --> 01:35:33,800 If a Russian ship is sunk, we just don't know. 1809 01:35:34,800 --> 01:35:37,600 The Chinese may send in troops, 1810 01:35:38,300 --> 01:35:41,500 but as Bus said, this could end it. 1811 01:35:41,600 --> 01:35:42,600 What if it doesn't? 1812 01:35:42,700 --> 01:35:46,200 What if by God's grace we don't have a million Chinese and nuclear war, 1813 01:35:46,300 --> 01:35:47,800 but they still won't quit? 1814 01:35:48,400 --> 01:35:50,000 What will you be askin me to hit next? 1815 01:35:50,200 --> 01:35:53,200 Strategic targets closer to the center of Hanoi. 1816 01:35:54,800 --> 01:35:58,500 The Paul Doumer Bridge, four major rail lines cross it. 1817 01:35:59,200 --> 01:36:01,500 The power plant, industry, 1818 01:36:01,600 --> 01:36:03,800 all within five miles of downtown. 1819 01:36:07,900 --> 01:36:10,200 Bob, are you for this? 1820 01:36:13,200 --> 01:36:14,400 It might work. 1821 01:36:15,000 --> 01:36:16,200 So you're for it. 1822 01:36:16,700 --> 01:36:18,600 Uh, Mr. President? 1823 01:36:18,700 --> 01:36:19,700 Walt? 1824 01:36:19,800 --> 01:36:21,300 Since taking over for Mac Bundy, 1825 01:36:22,800 --> 01:36:25,000 I've had a chance to evaluate our bombing policy and I uh, 1826 01:36:25,200 --> 01:36:26,900 well, I believe that our continued delay 1827 01:36:27,100 --> 01:36:28,800 in attacking Hanoi is causing Russia 1828 01:36:29,000 --> 01:36:31,100 and China to underestimate our resolve 1829 01:36:31,300 --> 01:36:34,900 and that that may actually encourage World War III. 1830 01:36:37,500 --> 01:36:38,600 Clark? 1831 01:36:41,000 --> 01:36:46,000 As always, I support any measure that has a chance of ending this. 1832 01:36:48,700 --> 01:36:54,700 Anyone else? George? Nothin to add? 1833 01:36:57,400 --> 01:36:59,300 This will not affect North Vietnamese manpower, 1834 01:36:59,400 --> 01:37:01,300 which has proved to be limitless. 1835 01:37:01,400 --> 01:37:03,900 It will be hard for the Russians and the Chinese to take, 1836 01:37:04,400 --> 01:37:05,400 I'm concerned as always about 1837 01:37:05,600 --> 01:37:06,800 the escalating level of violence, 1838 01:37:07,000 --> 01:37:10,500 but maybe this will finally satisfy the hawks in Congress. 1839 01:37:11,000 --> 01:37:13,000 If we have to do it, let's do it now. 1840 01:37:13,200 --> 01:37:16,800 You know, George, you remind me of a country schoolteacher, 1841 01:37:17,300 --> 01:37:19,700 asked if he believes the world is flat or round, 1842 01:37:19,800 --> 01:37:23,200 he says, I can teach it either way. 1843 01:37:29,200 --> 01:37:30,300 How soon do we go? 1844 01:37:37,700 --> 01:37:39,300 This is the same as mine, you know. 1845 01:37:39,400 --> 01:37:42,000 I just as soon forget about those thirteen days. 1846 01:37:42,200 --> 01:37:44,100 He had them made at Tiffany's didn't he? 1847 01:37:44,200 --> 01:37:45,300 He gave one to Jackie, too. 1848 01:37:45,400 --> 01:37:46,900 She joked it's the only thing he ever gave her 1849 01:37:47,100 --> 01:37:50,000 from there that wasn't ordered straight out of their catalog. 1850 01:37:51,800 --> 01:37:52,900 A trying time. 1851 01:37:53,000 --> 01:37:54,600 You speak as if it's in the past. 1852 01:37:55,200 --> 01:37:56,300 What? 1853 01:37:56,800 --> 01:37:58,400 The trying time. 1854 01:38:03,100 --> 01:38:04,000 Here you go. 1855 01:38:15,100 --> 01:38:16,800 ...Johnson wasn't much of a poker player 1856 01:38:16,900 --> 01:38:19,500 but he loved the political conversation. 1857 01:38:19,600 --> 01:38:21,500 Can a whiskey convert a man, Clark? 1858 01:38:25,400 --> 01:38:26,400 Look at them. 1859 01:38:27,000 --> 01:38:28,300 You know what they remind me of? 1860 01:38:29,400 --> 01:38:31,700 A flock of buzzards sittin on a fence discussing 1861 01:38:31,800 --> 01:38:33,000 the price of carrion. 1862 01:38:33,100 --> 01:38:34,100 Buzzards. 1863 01:38:34,600 --> 01:38:35,400 George. 1864 01:38:35,600 --> 01:38:36,500 You could have had Bundy's job. 1865 01:38:36,700 --> 01:38:37,500 What was it, Clark? 1866 01:38:37,600 --> 01:38:39,000 You haven't socked away enough dough yet? 1867 01:38:39,200 --> 01:38:41,200 Oh, no, that's unbecoming of you, George. 1868 01:38:41,300 --> 01:38:42,900 The basement office? What? 1869 01:38:43,000 --> 01:38:47,000 You know I'd lose my freedom to advice him on his Presidency 1870 01:38:47,100 --> 01:38:48,500 if I took a cabinet post. 1871 01:38:48,600 --> 01:38:51,600 George, the President wants to get out of Vietnam 1872 01:38:51,800 --> 01:38:53,800 just as much as you do, in principle. 1873 01:38:54,000 --> 01:38:56,400 Principle? There's a word that's been tossed 1874 01:38:56,500 --> 01:38:58,600 about more than a dollar whore in a port of call. 1875 01:38:58,700 --> 01:39:00,100 How's this for principle: 1876 01:39:00,200 --> 01:39:03,400 what a waste. 1877 01:39:03,500 --> 01:39:04,500 You know who said that? 1878 01:39:04,600 --> 01:39:05,300 No. 1879 01:39:05,400 --> 01:39:06,400 McNamara. 1880 01:39:06,600 --> 01:39:07,800 To me. 1881 01:39:07,900 --> 01:39:09,000 For all the principle around here 1882 01:39:09,100 --> 01:39:11,100 we're in one hell of a mess, don't you think? 1883 01:39:13,400 --> 01:39:16,400 Look at him. His wife's got an ulcer, 1884 01:39:16,600 --> 01:39:18,000 his kid's got an ulcer, 1885 01:39:18,100 --> 01:39:21,800 everybody's got Bob McNamara's ulcer but Bob McNamara. 1886 01:39:23,300 --> 01:39:26,300 Sometimes I think it's all just a god damn academic exercise to him. 1887 01:39:26,400 --> 01:39:30,400 George. You mustn't give up on this, George. 1888 01:39:30,500 --> 01:39:31,900 Oh, Christ, Clark. 1889 01:39:33,300 --> 01:39:34,300 Marny. 1890 01:39:36,600 --> 01:39:39,000 Good evening, Mr. and Mrs. Clifford how are you. 1891 01:39:39,400 --> 01:39:41,200 I'd like you to meet Charles Rob. 1892 01:39:41,300 --> 01:39:42,300 Clark Clifford. 1893 01:39:42,500 --> 01:39:43,900 Anyone who still thinks we ought to be in Vietnam 1894 01:39:44,000 --> 01:39:45,800 should take a detour from work and drive by Arlington 1895 01:39:46,000 --> 01:39:47,600 Cemetery every day for a week. 1896 01:39:47,700 --> 01:39:48,600 I don't think I'd trust anyone 1897 01:39:48,700 --> 01:39:50,900 in a policymaking position who'd do that. 1898 01:39:51,100 --> 01:39:54,600 Who did what, Bob? Who faced the consequences of his counsel? 1899 01:39:54,800 --> 01:39:57,000 Who needed a reminder of what war was all about? 1900 01:39:57,100 --> 01:40:00,600 A reminder of what? Our jobs in World War II, in the rear? 1901 01:40:00,800 --> 01:40:02,400 I pushed paper just like you, Walt. 1902 01:40:02,600 --> 01:40:03,900 We were all too damn smart. 1903 01:40:04,000 --> 01:40:06,800 I must've been sittin on my brains then up in that B-25. 1904 01:40:07,000 --> 01:40:08,000 Two years in prison camps. 1905 01:40:08,200 --> 01:40:10,100 That's right, Nick's the only one here who saw combat. 1906 01:40:10,200 --> 01:40:11,900 And you were probably pickin his targets, Walt. 1907 01:40:12,100 --> 01:40:13,600 As I remember, we won that war. 1908 01:40:13,800 --> 01:40:14,700 Yeah, well, you can tell that 1909 01:40:14,800 --> 01:40:17,100 to the 50,000 dead men, women and children of Dresden. 1910 01:40:17,200 --> 01:40:17,900 Dresden... 1911 01:40:18,000 --> 01:40:19,800 Is anyone ready for dinner? 1912 01:40:19,900 --> 01:40:21,700 Dresden was bombed for the rail lines. 1913 01:40:21,800 --> 01:40:23,200 Dresden was bombed to terrorize 1914 01:40:23,300 --> 01:40:24,200 the hell out of those people, 1915 01:40:24,400 --> 01:40:26,900 which is precisely what our B-52s are doing in Vietnam. 1916 01:40:27,000 --> 01:40:29,200 And if this keeps up, in another year, 1917 01:40:29,300 --> 01:40:31,100 we'll have dropped more there than on all of Europe. 1918 01:40:31,200 --> 01:40:32,400 Isn't that right, Bob? 1919 01:40:32,500 --> 01:40:33,700 Let's go inside, darling. 1920 01:40:33,800 --> 01:40:36,700 Isn't that what you told me the other day? In private? 1921 01:40:36,800 --> 01:40:38,400 Among some other things. 1922 01:40:38,500 --> 01:40:40,800 Such as the fact that we've destroyed so much of that country 1923 01:40:40,900 --> 01:40:42,600 they can't even grow enough rice to feed themselves, 1924 01:40:42,700 --> 01:40:43,900 the rice bowl of the world. 1925 01:40:44,000 --> 01:40:45,000 George. 1926 01:40:45,100 --> 01:40:46,400 We've created so many refugees 1927 01:40:46,500 --> 01:40:48,600 that if we had the same proportion out of their homes in this country, 1928 01:40:48,700 --> 01:40:51,000 there d be thirty-million people on the streets. 1929 01:40:51,200 --> 01:40:53,200 Isn't that right? Bob? 1930 01:40:53,300 --> 01:40:54,500 Isn't that what you said? 1931 01:40:55,800 --> 01:40:59,400 What was it Tacitus said about the Romans at Carthage? 1932 01:41:02,000 --> 01:41:04,800 You have made a desert and call it peace. 1933 01:41:10,700 --> 01:41:12,900 If you still can't reach him then get whosever on call, 1934 01:41:13,000 --> 01:41:14,300 we need a doctor here. 1935 01:41:15,800 --> 01:41:16,800 Christ, Marny. 1936 01:41:17,000 --> 01:41:19,100 I'll be all right. It was the liqueur 1937 01:41:23,000 --> 01:41:23,600 Hello? 1938 01:41:23,800 --> 01:41:24,600 Mr. Secretary, 1939 01:41:24,700 --> 01:41:26,100 it's Major Wolfson at the Command Center. 1940 01:41:26,300 --> 01:41:28,500 We just got a call from CINCPAC saying the weather around 1941 01:41:28,600 --> 01:41:29,900 Hanoi has cleared and the fighter-bombers 1942 01:41:30,000 --> 01:41:31,500 are on their way. 1943 01:41:37,600 --> 01:41:38,900 Bob, it's me. 1944 01:41:39,000 --> 01:41:42,600 Mr. President, the operations we discussed will be going tonight. 1945 01:41:42,800 --> 01:41:44,300 They have perfect conditions. 1946 01:41:45,100 --> 01:41:50,600 Bob, Bob these, these, these pilots are said to be the cream. 1947 01:41:50,800 --> 01:41:53,900 They're the best the Navy and Air Force have, Mr. President, 1948 01:41:54,000 --> 01:41:56,100 and they know you're counting on them 1949 01:41:56,700 --> 01:41:58,000 All right, Bob. Thank you. 1950 01:41:58,700 --> 01:41:59,900 I'm going to the Pentagon now, 1951 01:42:00,100 --> 01:42:02,700 I'll call as soon as I have word, Mr. President. 1952 01:42:02,800 --> 01:42:03,800 Thank you. 1953 01:42:12,500 --> 01:42:14,400 Forgive me for ventilating so freely. 1954 01:42:15,200 --> 01:42:16,300 I believe that you are only so worried 1955 01:42:16,400 --> 01:42:18,700 because you feel foolish having waited so long 1956 01:42:18,800 --> 01:42:20,000 to take this action. 1957 01:42:20,500 --> 01:42:22,600 If, if you did it a year ago, 1958 01:42:22,700 --> 01:42:25,300 instead of using kid gloves and giving them an extra month 1959 01:42:25,400 --> 01:42:27,100 in which to resupply, 1960 01:42:27,200 --> 01:42:28,800 it would have followed quite naturally 1961 01:42:29,000 --> 01:42:31,400 but now it seems to you like one step too many. 1962 01:42:31,600 --> 01:42:33,600 The problem is, my good sir, 1963 01:42:33,700 --> 01:42:36,700 each step has been inches instead of yards. 1964 01:42:37,200 --> 01:42:40,300 We have been going to war by inches! 1965 01:42:40,400 --> 01:42:44,400 Tip-toeing apologetically when we should be striding through 1966 01:42:44,600 --> 01:42:47,400 with our heads held high like Americans! 1967 01:42:49,000 --> 01:42:51,300 Why aren't we hearin from em!? 1968 01:42:59,500 --> 01:43:00,600 Yes, Bob. 1969 01:43:02,500 --> 01:43:04,400 Mr. President, they had some weather. 1970 01:43:04,900 --> 01:43:06,200 You said it was clear! 1971 01:43:06,300 --> 01:43:08,400 I'll call you the moment I know anything. 1972 01:43:08,500 --> 01:43:11,400 Bob, my life's in your hands here. 1973 01:43:12,700 --> 01:43:13,600 Yes, sir. 1974 01:45:17,100 --> 01:45:18,600 Our Father... 1975 01:45:20,900 --> 01:45:22,800 Our Father... 1976 01:45:25,200 --> 01:45:26,700 Our Father... 1977 01:45:26,800 --> 01:45:28,300 Who art in heaven, 1978 01:45:29,600 --> 01:45:31,100 Who art in heaven, 1979 01:45:31,200 --> 01:45:33,200 Hallowed be thy name... 1980 01:45:33,600 --> 01:45:34,800 Hallowed be thy name... 1981 01:45:34,900 --> 01:45:37,900 Well, if you admit her you could run some tests on her, 1982 01:45:38,000 --> 01:45:40,800 can't you, goddamnit, I mean... Secretary, Exec-con on one. 1983 01:45:40,900 --> 01:45:44,000 You can see there that she's in a hell of a lot of pain. 1984 01:45:44,500 --> 01:45:46,000 Thy kingdom come. 1985 01:45:46,200 --> 01:45:47,500 Thy kingdom come. 1986 01:45:47,600 --> 01:45:49,300 Thy will be done... 1987 01:45:55,100 --> 01:45:56,300 I'm sorry. I'm sorry. 1988 01:45:56,500 --> 01:45:58,500 I'm sorry. On earth. 1989 01:45:58,700 --> 01:45:59,400 On earth. 1990 01:45:59,600 --> 01:46:00,200 On earth. 1991 01:46:00,400 --> 01:46:01,700 As it is in heaven. 1992 01:46:01,800 --> 01:46:03,100 As it is in heaven. 1993 01:46:06,900 --> 01:46:08,400 Give us this day... 1994 01:46:09,100 --> 01:46:10,400 Give us this day... 1995 01:46:11,000 --> 01:46:12,200 Our daily bread... 1996 01:46:12,300 --> 01:46:14,600 Our daily bread... 1997 01:46:14,800 --> 01:46:17,100 And forgive us our trespasses. 1998 01:46:17,800 --> 01:46:19,700 And forgive us our trespasses. 1999 01:46:19,900 --> 01:46:21,400 As we forgive those who trespass against us. 2000 01:46:23,500 --> 01:46:27,000 As we forgive those who trespass against us. 2001 01:46:27,100 --> 01:46:30,100 Lead us not into temptation. 2002 01:46:30,200 --> 01:46:32,200 Lead us not into temptation. 2003 01:46:32,400 --> 01:46:36,000 But deliver us from evil. 2004 01:46:38,200 --> 01:46:40,200 Deliver us from evil. 2005 01:46:40,400 --> 01:46:42,100 Amen. Amen. 2006 01:47:27,200 --> 01:47:28,300 Go ahead. 2007 01:47:28,400 --> 01:47:30,800 Mr. President, I just talked with Honolulu, 2008 01:47:30,900 --> 01:47:34,900 all the primaries were hit, and no ships were struck. 2009 01:47:35,000 --> 01:47:38,700 Now, we did lose two aircraft due to anti-air. 2010 01:47:39,100 --> 01:47:42,200 No Russian ships? We didn't hit any Russian ships? 2011 01:47:42,300 --> 01:47:45,800 No, but as I say, uh, two pilots are down. 2012 01:47:45,900 --> 01:47:48,700 I won't know about civilian casualties till we have the photos. 2013 01:47:48,800 --> 01:47:51,600 Now, if the weather holds we could send the RFs in 2014 01:47:51,700 --> 01:47:55,800 to see just what collateral damage... All right, Bob. Thank you. Thank you. 2015 01:48:00,300 --> 01:48:03,500 Pentagon sources tell CBS news that General Westmoreland 2016 01:48:03,700 --> 01:48:06,800 has been granted even great authority over the use of B-52s 2017 01:48:06,900 --> 01:48:09,900 in Vietcong controlled areas in the South. 2018 01:48:10,000 --> 01:48:13,000 With the recent escalation of bombing over North Vietnam, 2019 01:48:13,100 --> 01:48:15,400 aimed to destroying the heart of the enemies 2020 01:48:15,600 --> 01:48:16,900 urban industrial capacity, 2021 01:48:17,100 --> 01:48:18,800 the US clearly wants to force a change 2022 01:48:19,000 --> 01:48:21,500 in Hanoi's will to continue the war. 2023 01:48:21,600 --> 01:48:26,900 Last year the rate of Rolling Thunder missions reached 1,500 per week, 2024 01:48:27,100 --> 01:48:29,300 since then the rate of sorties has doubled. 2025 01:48:29,500 --> 01:48:31,100 Mr. President it appears 2026 01:48:31,200 --> 01:48:33,100 that the air strikes have had no effect 2027 01:48:33,200 --> 01:48:35,300 on the enemy's war making capability. 2028 01:48:36,400 --> 01:48:37,800 The attacks were not successful? 2029 01:48:38,000 --> 01:48:40,500 Well, why we did destroy nearly 100% 2030 01:48:40,600 --> 01:48:42,800 of their oil storage capacity 2031 01:48:42,900 --> 01:48:45,600 in our follow-up attacks throughout the summer, 2032 01:48:46,100 --> 01:48:48,200 a large portion of their stock was put into barrels and 2033 01:48:48,300 --> 01:48:50,900 dispersed in anticipation of our strikes. 2034 01:48:51,000 --> 01:48:53,300 They've retained enough to meet ongoing requirements. 2035 01:48:53,400 --> 01:48:54,700 Their buildup is continuing. 2036 01:48:55,300 --> 01:48:57,700 And Westmoreland is requesting additional men. 2037 01:48:58,700 --> 01:48:59,600 How many? 2038 01:48:59,800 --> 01:49:01,900 The Program Three forces will bring us up 2039 01:49:02,000 --> 01:49:05,000 to 431,000 by the middle of 67. 2040 01:49:06,900 --> 01:49:07,900 What about the bombin ? 2041 01:49:08,000 --> 01:49:11,800 We're looking at heavier B-52 strikes in the southern DMZ, 2042 01:49:11,900 --> 01:49:15,500 and in North Vietnam--targets in the restricted zones. 2043 01:49:16,000 --> 01:49:16,900 Downtown Hanoi. 2044 01:49:17,000 --> 01:49:17,400 Yes, sir. And Haiphong. 2045 01:49:17,500 --> 01:49:20,500 And in the buffer zone with China. 2046 01:49:20,700 --> 01:49:23,500 The good news, Mr. President, is that the naysayers were wrong. 2047 01:49:23,700 --> 01:49:25,400 Peking and Moscow stood still 2048 01:49:25,500 --> 01:49:27,500 and they will very likely stand still even 2049 01:49:27,700 --> 01:49:29,700 with intensified activity. 2050 01:49:33,400 --> 01:49:35,600 Are you recommendin some of these new targets for me today? 2051 01:49:35,700 --> 01:49:39,200 Yes, I am. You have the evaluation sheets before you. 2052 01:49:39,300 --> 01:49:41,800 I have some photographs here, number seventy-two 2053 01:49:42,000 --> 01:49:43,700 of the Van Dien truck depot. 2054 01:49:44,600 --> 01:49:47,800 That the one with the school up the street? 2055 01:49:51,700 --> 01:49:55,100 As a matter of fact, yes, the Polish Friendship School 2056 01:49:55,200 --> 01:49:56,900 across the highway a half a mile up. 2057 01:49:58,000 --> 01:49:59,500 Mr. President, as you may recall, 2058 01:49:59,600 --> 01:50:01,200 in order to avoid a tax increase 2059 01:50:01,300 --> 01:50:04,800 we did not budget for the war beyond this fiscal year 2060 01:50:04,900 --> 01:50:07,900 which has cost us 20 billion as apposed 2061 01:50:08,100 --> 01:50:09,800 to the 12 billion projected. 2062 01:50:12,200 --> 01:50:17,700 We're over by eight billion? Eight billion? 2063 01:50:20,100 --> 01:50:23,900 Mr. President, if you approve these new forces, 2064 01:50:24,400 --> 01:50:26,100 constraints on domestic programs 2065 01:50:26,300 --> 01:50:28,700 will no longer be avoidable. 2066 01:50:29,200 --> 01:50:31,400 It's all in a memo I sent over to you today along 2067 01:50:31,500 --> 01:50:33,300 with some recommendations. 2068 01:50:41,100 --> 01:50:47,100 Joe, I want to start workin on the State of the Union. 2069 01:50:49,300 --> 01:50:51,600 You sit down with Bob and Walt and Fowler. 2070 01:50:51,800 --> 01:50:53,000 Yes, Mr. President. 2071 01:50:58,000 --> 01:51:00,100 There's to be no mention of the Great Society! 2072 01:51:15,100 --> 01:51:18,300 What is it you're lookin for!? Undersecretary of State? 2073 01:51:18,400 --> 01:51:21,300 I'll change the title to the Holy Roman Emperor, right? 2074 01:51:22,200 --> 01:51:24,200 No, this is the best way 2075 01:51:24,400 --> 01:51:26,900 I can serve your Presidency 2076 01:51:27,100 --> 01:51:30,600 and I think Dean Rusk would feel undercut 2077 01:51:31,100 --> 01:51:33,900 if you were to fill George Ball's job 2078 01:51:34,400 --> 01:51:35,600 with a personal friend of yours. 2079 01:51:35,700 --> 01:51:37,600 I don't give a rat's ass what Rusk feels, 2080 01:51:37,700 --> 01:51:39,600 I need you in that room, Clark. 2081 01:51:39,700 --> 01:51:42,700 I need someone like George with an ability to reason and argue. 2082 01:51:42,900 --> 01:51:43,900 A devil's advocate. 2083 01:51:44,100 --> 01:51:47,300 George Ball is not playing devil's advocate. 2084 01:51:47,900 --> 01:51:50,300 He believed every word he said. 2085 01:51:52,800 --> 01:51:55,400 All right. All right. 2086 01:52:00,000 --> 01:52:01,900 Moyers wants the job. 2087 01:52:02,100 --> 01:52:04,500 My press man thinks if I make him number two 2088 01:52:04,600 --> 01:52:06,100 at State I'll all of a sudden give a shit 2089 01:52:06,300 --> 01:52:07,700 what he thinks about Vietnam. 2090 01:52:08,900 --> 01:52:11,700 And McNamara, McNamara sends me a paper, 2091 01:52:11,800 --> 01:52:14,100 says we should cap the troops, level off the bombin. 2092 01:52:14,200 --> 01:52:15,900 You know what happens if I stop bombin ? 2093 01:52:16,000 --> 01:52:19,000 Ho Chi Minh runs five more divisions up my ass, 2094 01:52:19,100 --> 01:52:20,400 that's what happens! 2095 01:52:22,000 --> 01:52:24,100 It was McNamara's program, the whole thing, 2096 01:52:24,600 --> 01:52:26,500 now he's talkin up a shit storm to Bobby! 2097 01:52:26,700 --> 01:52:27,700 Oh, you don't know that. 2098 01:52:27,900 --> 01:52:29,200 I know everything. 2099 01:52:29,300 --> 01:52:30,500 I know who's sayin 2100 01:52:30,700 --> 01:52:32,500 what at those fancy Georgetown dinner parties. 2101 01:52:32,600 --> 01:52:35,200 I know cause I had Hoover put a couple of boys there, too. 2102 01:52:35,300 --> 01:52:35,900 I know. 2103 01:52:36,000 --> 01:52:38,400 What they say doesn't matter. 2104 01:52:38,500 --> 01:52:40,900 You're not helpless in this situation. 2105 01:52:41,100 --> 01:52:43,500 You're approval ratings are down. 2106 01:52:43,600 --> 01:52:47,500 You need to go out there on the stump and sell the 2107 01:52:47,600 --> 01:52:50,400 truth Westmoreland is now aying that a Communist 2108 01:52:50,500 --> 01:52:54,000 military victory is impossible. 2109 01:52:54,200 --> 01:52:56,700 You're finally winning in Vietnam. 2110 01:52:56,800 --> 01:52:58,000 We're winnin but we're losin . 2111 01:52:58,100 --> 01:53:00,100 We're killin em and we're losin . 2112 01:53:00,300 --> 01:53:04,400 We're losin because this war goes on and on and on. 2113 01:53:04,900 --> 01:53:06,600 I passed twice the number of bills FDR 2114 01:53:06,800 --> 01:53:08,100 got through in his first hundred days 2115 01:53:08,300 --> 01:53:10,800 2116 01:53:11,000 --> 01:53:13,700 There's never been an era in American history like this, 2117 01:53:13,800 --> 01:53:16,200 yet there's so much left to do. 2118 01:53:16,800 --> 01:53:19,300 But this war has got to end! 2119 01:53:21,200 --> 01:53:24,700 Five years pussyfootin about in that miserable little country. 2120 01:53:24,800 --> 01:53:26,800 Two billion dollars a month! 2121 01:53:26,900 --> 01:53:27,900 We could be feedin these people, 2122 01:53:28,000 --> 01:53:29,600 educatin these people! 2123 01:53:30,100 --> 01:53:32,000 Goddamnit why won't that sonovabitch 2124 01:53:32,200 --> 01:53:33,900 let me help him? Why!? 2125 01:53:34,400 --> 01:53:35,600 Why won't he lay down his arms 2126 01:53:35,700 --> 01:53:38,700 and stop killing off his sons in the flower of their youth? 2127 01:53:40,800 --> 01:53:45,100 I do not understand. I... I just do not understand. 2128 01:53:49,100 --> 01:53:50,300 Mr. President... 2129 01:53:52,700 --> 01:53:55,400 Moyers, get me Moyers, 2130 01:53:55,500 --> 01:53:57,500 and get me General Westmoreland on the other line. 2131 01:53:57,700 --> 01:53:59,800 Can I help you, Mr. President? 2132 01:53:59,900 --> 01:54:01,300 Get your bags packed. 2133 01:54:03,400 --> 01:54:07,000 Call the press together. We're goin to Vietnam. 2134 01:54:19,800 --> 01:54:20,800 Dean? 2135 01:54:25,100 --> 01:54:26,200 Are they ours? 2136 01:54:26,700 --> 01:54:28,100 I fuckin hope so. 2137 01:55:08,600 --> 01:55:11,100 Attention. Arms! 2138 01:55:13,900 --> 01:55:16,500 Order, down! 2139 01:56:06,700 --> 01:56:08,000 Where you from, Son? 2140 01:56:08,100 --> 01:56:09,300 Louisville, Kentucky, sir. 2141 01:56:09,500 --> 01:56:11,000 Kentucky? Yes, sir. 2142 01:56:11,100 --> 01:56:13,200 Have you turn majority age yet, Corporal? 2143 01:56:13,300 --> 01:56:14,900 I was twenty-one last month, sir. 2144 01:56:15,000 --> 01:56:17,200 My mom and my girl sent me a big ol chocolate cake 2145 01:56:17,400 --> 01:56:18,900 and it came just in time, sir. Good. 2146 01:56:19,100 --> 01:56:20,000 Bill, get em out. 2147 01:56:20,100 --> 01:56:20,900 Yes, Mr. President. 2148 01:56:21,100 --> 01:56:22,400 Come on, guys. 2149 01:56:22,500 --> 01:56:24,700 Well, they've given me the honor, Corporal McCaffrey, 2150 01:56:24,800 --> 01:56:26,800 of pinnin you with this purple heart here. 2151 01:56:28,700 --> 01:56:30,900 There. You'll be home right soon, 2152 01:56:31,000 --> 01:56:32,200 and on the first Tuesday of November, 2153 01:56:32,300 --> 01:56:35,200 you got a congressional election I want you to vote. 2154 01:56:36,100 --> 01:56:37,000 Yes, sir. 2155 01:56:37,700 --> 01:56:40,100 Yeah, you'll be able to get to your pollin place? 2156 01:56:40,600 --> 01:56:43,000 I don't know where it is, but I'll get a ride, sir. 2157 01:56:43,100 --> 01:56:43,900 All right. 2158 01:56:47,100 --> 01:56:48,300 Make sure you vote now. 2159 01:56:48,500 --> 01:56:49,600 Yes, sir. 2160 01:56:52,300 --> 01:56:55,900 We're all behind you, sir. Every one of us. 2161 01:56:57,800 --> 01:56:59,200 We won't let you down. 2162 01:57:00,900 --> 01:57:03,500 All right, son. Thank you. 2163 01:57:04,900 --> 01:57:06,400 And I won't let you down! 2164 01:57:07,100 --> 01:57:08,800 You'll get everything you need. 2165 01:57:09,700 --> 01:57:12,600 I thank you, I salute you, 2166 01:57:12,700 --> 01:57:14,400 may the good Lord look over you 2167 01:57:14,500 --> 01:57:16,300 and keep you safe until you come home 2168 01:57:16,400 --> 01:57:18,700 and nail that coonskin to the wall. 2169 01:57:19,300 --> 01:57:20,900 Three cheers for the President! 2170 01:57:21,100 --> 01:57:23,600 Hip-hip-hooray! Hip, hip, hooray! 2171 01:57:23,700 --> 01:57:25,600 Hip, hip, hooray! 2172 01:58:19,300 --> 01:58:21,100 Certainly the bombing of the North 2173 01:58:21,200 --> 01:58:23,600 makes the war more costly and more difficult 2174 01:58:23,700 --> 01:58:26,300 and more painful for North Vietnam. 2175 01:58:26,800 --> 01:58:29,000 It is a harsh punishment indeed. 2176 01:58:29,100 --> 01:58:31,700 But we are not in Vietnam to play the part 2177 01:58:31,900 --> 01:58:34,600 of an avenging angel pouring death and destruction. 2178 01:58:35,300 --> 01:58:35,900 We are there to assure the selfdetermination... 2179 01:58:36,100 --> 01:58:38,500 Kennedy, McCarthy 2180 01:58:38,600 --> 01:58:41,000 they haven't done a thing for this country! 2181 01:58:41,100 --> 01:58:45,200 Not a fuckin thing! And look at all I've done. 2182 01:58:45,300 --> 01:58:47,700 It should be clear by now hat the bombing of the North 2183 01:58:47,900 --> 01:58:50,200 cannot bring an end to the war in the South, 2184 01:58:50,800 --> 01:58:52,200 and that indeed at the present time 2185 01:58:52,300 --> 01:58:54,200 it may well be prolonging that war. 2186 01:58:54,900 --> 01:58:56,600 Our troops are being killed by the bullets 2187 01:58:56,800 --> 01:58:58,800 and the mines of the South. 2188 01:58:58,900 --> 01:59:00,900 If, by ending the bombing of the North 2189 01:59:01,000 --> 01:59:03,000 we can bring peace to South Vietnam, 2190 01:59:03,200 --> 01:59:05,200 we will save the lives of thousands of... 2191 01:59:05,300 --> 01:59:07,700 I don't know why you're worried about Kennedy 2192 01:59:07,800 --> 01:59:09,200 and your second term, 2193 01:59:09,900 --> 01:59:11,000 because I don't think your health 2194 01:59:11,200 --> 01:59:12,900 will survive your first term. 2195 01:59:14,500 --> 01:59:15,800 Where you going ? 2196 01:59:16,200 --> 01:59:17,600 I want to be useful to you. 2197 01:59:17,700 --> 01:59:19,700 And I would listen even as you rant and rave, 2198 01:59:19,800 --> 01:59:21,800 but I have worked far too hard and born 2199 01:59:21,900 --> 01:59:25,300 far too much to watch you destroy yourself. 2200 01:59:25,400 --> 01:59:36,600 ...major political elements of South Vietnam, anticipate... 2201 01:59:39,900 --> 01:59:42,600 The bridge is a major target and we've never hit it. 2202 01:59:42,800 --> 01:59:45,000 The chance of civilian deaths will be almost zero. 2203 01:59:45,100 --> 01:59:47,400 I say one hundred to five hundred, possibly more. 2204 01:59:47,500 --> 01:59:48,900 Which is it? Five hundred or zero? 2205 01:59:49,100 --> 01:59:51,600 Mr. President, the Stennis Committee is up in arms over 2206 01:59:51,800 --> 01:59:53,500 our holding back on these targets. 2207 01:59:53,600 --> 01:59:56,600 Bob's testimony is coming up and it might take some heat off him 2208 01:59:56,800 --> 01:59:59,000 if some of these can be cleared up before his appearance. 2209 01:59:59,200 --> 02:00:01,100 I can take the heat without padding my resume 2210 02:00:01,200 --> 02:00:02,200 with more bombing missions. 2211 02:00:02,300 --> 02:00:03,700 This is a heavily defended target 2212 02:00:03,800 --> 02:00:05,400 in a very populated area. 2213 02:00:05,500 --> 02:00:06,900 The photos are right here, Mr. President. 2214 02:00:07,100 --> 02:00:08,400 The photos are meaningless, 2215 02:00:08,500 --> 02:00:10,100 the target is heavily defended. 2216 02:00:10,200 --> 02:00:12,300 The pilots jettison their bombs when they re under attack. 2217 02:00:12,400 --> 02:00:13,500 Now, I've been asking for two years 2218 02:00:13,700 --> 02:00:15,100 why they don't come straight up he river 2219 02:00:15,300 --> 02:00:16,100 that way they dump the bombs, 2220 02:00:16,200 --> 02:00:17,700 they go in the water and not on the people 2221 02:00:17,900 --> 02:00:19,100 and I still haven't got an answer! 2222 02:00:19,200 --> 02:00:21,900 Coming in from the Gulf involves an extra turn, 2223 02:00:22,000 --> 02:00:24,200 with our backs to those heavy defenses. 2224 02:00:24,300 --> 02:00:27,900 If it is so well defended, should we risk the pilots? 2225 02:00:28,000 --> 02:00:30,400 Men dying is a relative thing. 2226 02:00:30,600 --> 02:00:33,100 The effect of the air campaign is cumulative. 2227 02:00:33,200 --> 02:00:35,900 Every blow makes the enemy stretch his resources. 2228 02:00:36,000 --> 02:00:38,100 Stretching is a relative thing. 2229 02:00:38,200 --> 02:00:39,700 Mr. President, we shouldn't be bombing 2230 02:00:39,900 --> 02:00:40,800 for punitive reasons, 2231 02:00:40,900 --> 02:00:42,200 but there just doesn't seem any point to this anymore! 2232 02:00:42,300 --> 02:00:47,300 Hit it. Hit the goddamn bridge. What's next. 2233 02:00:47,400 --> 02:00:51,600 Uh, number 309, sir, the uh railcar repair shop... 2234 02:00:55,300 --> 02:00:56,400 Marg? 2235 02:00:59,800 --> 02:01:01,000 Marg!? 2236 02:01:01,800 --> 02:01:06,700 Oh, Jesus! Come to me. Come on. 2237 02:01:06,800 --> 02:01:08,200 I got you. I got you. 2238 02:01:08,300 --> 02:01:10,100 I got you. I got you. 2239 02:01:22,800 --> 02:01:25,200 I don't know what I'm gonna do, Marg. 2240 02:01:27,500 --> 02:01:29,800 Rostow, The Chiefs, they're gonna drive this thing 2241 02:01:29,900 --> 02:01:31,200 straight to hell. 2242 02:02:18,800 --> 02:02:19,800 I won't be long. 2243 02:02:19,900 --> 02:02:20,900 Okay. 2244 02:03:06,100 --> 02:03:09,100 One-two-three-four, we don't want your fucking war! 2245 02:03:09,200 --> 02:03:12,900 One-two-three-four, we don't want your fucking war! 2246 02:03:13,000 --> 02:03:16,700 One-two-three-four, we don't want your fucking war! 2247 02:03:16,800 --> 02:03:20,400 One-two-three-four, we don't want your fucking war! 2248 02:03:20,500 --> 02:03:24,200 One-two-three-four, we don't want your fucking war! 2249 02:03:24,300 --> 02:03:27,900 One-two-three-four, we don't want your fucking war! 2250 02:03:28,100 --> 02:03:29,900 One-two-three-four 2251 02:03:30,000 --> 02:03:33,000 Hey-hey-LBJ How many kids you kill today? 2252 02:03:33,100 --> 02:03:36,500 Hey-hey-LBJ How many kids you kill today? 2253 02:03:36,700 --> 02:03:40,000 Hey-hey-LBJ How many kids you kill today? 2254 02:03:40,100 --> 02:03:43,600 Hey-hey-LBJ How many kids you kill today? 2255 02:03:43,800 --> 02:03:46,800 All right, take formation, spread out 2256 02:03:47,000 --> 02:03:50,300 Stop the war in Vietnam, bring those troops back home! 2257 02:03:50,500 --> 02:03:55,000 Stop the war in Vietnam, bring those troops back home! 2258 02:03:55,100 --> 02:03:57,700 Let's go! Let's go! File in, move it up! 2259 02:03:57,800 --> 02:03:59,200 Hell-no, we won't go! 2260 02:03:59,300 --> 02:04:00,900 Hell-no, we won't go! 2261 02:04:01,100 --> 02:04:02,600 Hell-no, we won't go! 2262 02:04:02,800 --> 02:04:04,900 Hell-no, we won't go! 2263 02:04:05,100 --> 02:04:08,100 No rifle is to be loaded without my permission. 2264 02:04:08,200 --> 02:04:09,700 I'll have the commanders go down the line again. 2265 02:04:09,900 --> 02:04:12,000 Not one bullet, damn it! 2266 02:04:39,800 --> 02:04:41,400 Get off me! Let me go! Get off me! 2267 02:04:41,500 --> 02:04:44,300 Let me go! Just let me go! 2268 02:04:48,200 --> 02:04:49,300 Look, look at that. 2269 02:04:53,000 --> 02:04:57,200 There he is! That's McNamara! Over there! 2270 02:05:12,800 --> 02:05:15,400 Secretary McNamara, on behalf of the subcommittee, 2271 02:05:15,500 --> 02:05:18,600 let me thank you for your appearance here today. 2272 02:05:18,800 --> 02:05:23,500 I have, from the beginning, and do today, 2273 02:05:23,600 --> 02:05:27,400 fully support the objectives of the bombing 2274 02:05:28,000 --> 02:05:29,700 to interdict men, and supplies 2275 02:05:29,800 --> 02:05:32,800 and hinder the enemy's ability to wage war in the South. 2276 02:05:33,700 --> 02:05:37,400 In this I am 100% behind the Joint Chiefs, 2277 02:05:37,500 --> 02:05:41,500 Admiral Sharp, General Westmoreland, and his commanders, 2278 02:05:41,700 --> 02:05:45,900 as they are fully aware, and as the President is aware. 2279 02:05:46,000 --> 02:05:50,200 We are all greatly encouraged to hear that, Mr. Secretary. 2280 02:05:50,300 --> 02:05:54,000 You are the last to testify, as you know, 2281 02:05:54,100 --> 02:05:57,200 and the overwhelming view from General Wheeler and the others 2282 02:05:57,300 --> 02:06:00,800 is that there has been excessive interference from your office-- 2283 02:06:01,000 --> 02:06:03,400 If I'd be permitted to finish my statement, Senator 2284 02:06:03,600 --> 02:06:05,300 Stennis, there are copies available outside the hearing room. 2285 02:06:05,400 --> 02:06:11,300 Our greater objective, however, was, and remains, 2286 02:06:11,400 --> 02:06:13,000 to persuade the leaders of North Vietnam 2287 02:06:13,200 --> 02:06:15,400 that they cannot prevail. 2288 02:06:15,900 --> 02:06:18,200 In this we have been unsuccessful. 2289 02:06:19,000 --> 02:06:21,200 This is due to the fact that North Vietnam 2290 02:06:21,400 --> 02:06:23,100 can sustain its forces in the South 2291 02:06:23,200 --> 02:06:25,900 with a mere 100 tons of supplies a day, 2292 02:06:26,000 --> 02:06:29,500 through corrupt elements 2293 02:06:29,600 --> 02:06:31,500 in the South Vietnamese government. 2294 02:06:32,000 --> 02:06:34,800 Out of 359 targets recommended by the Chiefs, 2295 02:06:35,000 --> 02:06:37,400 only 57 remain unstruck. 2296 02:06:37,500 --> 02:06:42,200 Two are battery plants manufacturing a total of 600 tons a year, 2297 02:06:42,300 --> 02:06:44,000 not enough to fill the corner of a Sears, 2298 02:06:44,100 --> 02:06:45,500 Roebuck regional warehouse. 2299 02:06:45,700 --> 02:06:46,800 Just a moment, Mr. Secretary! 2300 02:06:46,900 --> 02:06:49,900 There's a rubber plant producing 2301 02:06:50,000 --> 02:06:52,100 The service station where I fill my car 2302 02:06:52,300 --> 02:06:53,900 could supply the output of this facility. 2303 02:06:54,000 --> 02:06:54,600 Excuse my interruption. 2304 02:06:54,800 --> 02:06:58,800 Hitting these targets will cost us in pilots, planes, 2305 02:06:58,900 --> 02:07:04,300 and hard cash, and they will kill more and more civilians. 2306 02:07:04,400 --> 02:07:06,700 The military knows this. 2307 02:07:06,800 --> 02:07:10,200 They think it's worth it. I do not. 2308 02:07:12,300 --> 02:07:13,000 Hold on! 2309 02:07:13,200 --> 02:07:14,600 You know what he did to me out there? 2310 02:07:15,200 --> 02:07:17,900 It's like sellin your house and your son takes the buyer aside 2311 02:07:18,000 --> 02:07:20,100 and tells him there's leaks in the basement. 2312 02:07:20,700 --> 02:07:23,000 Now Hanoi knows we're divided and they'll never stop. 2313 02:07:24,100 --> 02:07:26,000 I've gotta get rid of that sonovabitch. 2314 02:07:26,100 --> 02:07:28,200 You can't just get rid of him. 2315 02:07:28,300 --> 02:07:29,800 The Republicans will play up the disunity 2316 02:07:30,000 --> 02:07:31,400 and Bobby'll have a field day. 2317 02:07:31,500 --> 02:07:33,500 Bobby's clamorin for him to resign don't you know, 2318 02:07:33,600 --> 02:07:36,800 to go public against me for doin what he advised! 2319 02:07:36,900 --> 02:07:39,500 Look, we'll find a job for McNamara 2320 02:07:39,600 --> 02:07:41,500 where he won't be able to snipe at you. 2321 02:07:41,600 --> 02:07:43,800 I'll help you fill his post with someone you can trust. 2322 02:07:43,900 --> 02:07:46,300 I'll do anything I can for you, Mr. President. 2323 02:07:46,400 --> 02:07:48,800 But we have a reelection campaign to start 2324 02:07:48,900 --> 02:07:52,000 and we do not have a policy to end this war. 2325 02:07:53,900 --> 02:07:57,600 Clark, you'll do anything you can? 2326 02:08:06,500 --> 02:08:07,800 They're ready for you, Mr. President. 2327 02:08:07,900 --> 02:08:10,000 Yep. I'll be out in a minute. 2328 02:08:11,000 --> 02:08:12,000 Sit down, Bob. 2329 02:08:18,100 --> 02:08:20,400 I'm sorry you found out from the Washington Post. 2330 02:08:20,500 --> 02:08:23,300 I'm sure Fowler told you, or the bank people. 2331 02:08:24,000 --> 02:08:27,100 Nobody told me anything, Mr. President. I uh, 2332 02:08:27,200 --> 02:08:28,400 mentioned to you in the spring 2333 02:08:28,600 --> 02:08:29,800 that I'd been approached by the World Bank, 2334 02:08:29,900 --> 02:08:32,800 but I thought if you were going to nominate me, 2335 02:08:32,900 --> 02:08:34,500 you would have said something yourself. 2336 02:08:35,100 --> 02:08:37,600 They're doin fine work there--humanitarian work. 2337 02:08:37,800 --> 02:08:38,900 I know that's of interest to you. 2338 02:08:39,000 --> 02:08:42,000 Yes, but only if it's what you want. 2339 02:08:42,100 --> 02:08:44,000 If I can no longer be of service... 2340 02:08:44,200 --> 02:08:48,400 Service? Who's been of more service to me than you? 2341 02:08:48,600 --> 02:08:51,700 Why you've served longer than any Defense Secretary in history. 2342 02:08:51,800 --> 02:08:53,600 Look what you've had to shepherd us through. 2343 02:08:53,700 --> 02:08:57,600 The Cuban crisis, two Cuban crisis, Berlin, Dominican, 2344 02:08:57,800 --> 02:08:59,400 Middle East. Hell, 2345 02:08:59,600 --> 02:09:01,800 that's a tough enough job in peace time. 2346 02:09:02,000 --> 02:09:03,800 And look what you've had to deal with 2347 02:09:04,900 --> 02:09:09,100 Mr. President, my point is, 2348 02:09:09,200 --> 02:09:13,200 I don't have to leave until you want me to leave. 2349 02:09:14,500 --> 02:09:18,200 Bob, Joe Fowler asked me for three nominees. 2350 02:09:18,300 --> 02:09:20,800 I said I only got one McNamara. 2351 02:09:20,900 --> 02:09:23,600 There were tears in the Treasury Secretary's eyes 2352 02:09:23,700 --> 02:09:25,800 cause he was hopin he'd be my choice. 2353 02:09:25,900 --> 02:09:28,200 And with tears in his eyes he said he had to 2354 02:09:28,400 --> 02:09:30,000 submit three names to the bank. 2355 02:09:30,200 --> 02:09:34,100 I said, okay, it's McNamara, McNamara, and McNamara. 2356 02:09:34,200 --> 02:09:35,400 You ask him. 2357 02:09:35,600 --> 02:09:40,000 Now, the bank directors vote today, but it's uh, 2358 02:09:40,100 --> 02:09:41,600 it's just a formality. 2359 02:09:41,700 --> 02:09:43,300 Now, Bob, 2360 02:09:43,500 --> 02:09:47,200 I better get over to Lady Bird's beautification awards, 2361 02:09:47,300 --> 02:09:48,500 important to her. 2362 02:09:48,600 --> 02:09:51,400 Your wife's the same with her readin program, I know. 2363 02:09:51,600 --> 02:09:55,200 Yes, although with her condition it's been difficult. 2364 02:09:55,300 --> 02:09:57,700 Ah, no improvements since surgery? 2365 02:09:58,300 --> 02:10:04,000 My son, uh... he has em as well. 2366 02:10:05,800 --> 02:10:08,400 You deserve whatever you want from this government. 2367 02:10:08,600 --> 02:10:10,200 My obligation is to help you, 2368 02:10:10,800 --> 02:10:13,000 and this was within my power to grant you. 2369 02:10:16,200 --> 02:10:19,800 People have an obligation to the President, 2370 02:10:20,400 --> 02:10:22,000 not the other way around. 2371 02:10:28,800 --> 02:10:31,900 May your selfless service, spent in defendin freedom 2372 02:10:32,000 --> 02:10:34,900 bring even greater rewards in the larger work that you 2373 02:10:35,000 --> 02:10:38,000 now undertake to promote freedom throughout the world. 2374 02:10:38,200 --> 02:10:40,700 Signed, Lyndon B. Johnson, President. 2375 02:10:46,200 --> 02:10:49,100 This is the Medal of Freedom, 2376 02:10:49,200 --> 02:10:50,500 the highest award a President 2377 02:10:50,700 --> 02:10:54,600 can bestow upon a citizen of the United States. 2378 02:10:55,200 --> 02:10:59,400 I award it now to a loyal, brilliant, good man, 2379 02:10:59,600 --> 02:11:02,900 Robert McNamara the very best we have. 2380 02:11:06,700 --> 02:11:08,700 Thank you, Mr. President, this is an almost impossible 2381 02:11:08,800 --> 02:11:09,600 situation to respond to. 2382 02:11:09,700 --> 02:11:11,600 You're used to impossible situations. 2383 02:11:55,900 --> 02:11:58,200 Now, I stand here tonight to tell you 2384 02:11:58,300 --> 02:12:01,000 that I regard Bob McNamara here, 2385 02:12:01,100 --> 02:12:03,300 as not only one of the smartest, 2386 02:12:03,500 --> 02:12:06,100 but one of the most humane men I know. 2387 02:12:12,600 --> 02:12:15,300 One, put the men in. 2388 02:12:18,100 --> 02:12:21,500 Two, call up the reserves, extend tours of duty. 2389 02:12:23,500 --> 02:12:26,400 And three, expand the bombing. 2390 02:12:38,500 --> 02:12:40,600 Mr. President, uh, 2391 02:12:42,700 --> 02:12:48,700 I cannot uh... find the words to express 2392 02:12:48,900 --> 02:12:53,600 what lies in my heart today and uh... 2393 02:12:55,300 --> 02:12:57,600 I think I better respond at another time. 2394 02:13:21,500 --> 02:13:22,400 Mr. Clifford 2395 02:13:23,400 --> 02:13:25,300 Mr. Clifford, does your acceptance of the job 2396 02:13:25,400 --> 02:13:27,700 of Defense Secretary signal your interest 2397 02:13:27,800 --> 02:13:29,200 in elected office? 2398 02:13:29,800 --> 02:13:34,300 It signals only my desire to serve a great President 2399 02:13:34,500 --> 02:13:36,300 and a long-time friend. 2400 02:13:36,400 --> 02:13:41,300 I am 61 years old and I am sure this will finish me off. 2401 02:13:43,700 --> 02:13:45,500 Quiet please! Quiet please! 2402 02:13:45,700 --> 02:13:46,700 Joe, Joe? 2403 02:13:46,800 --> 02:13:49,100 It's been observed that in your views on Vietnam, 2404 02:13:49,200 --> 02:13:52,300 you've changed from dove to hawk, which are you? 2405 02:13:52,400 --> 02:13:55,800 I am not conscious of falling under any of those 2406 02:13:56,000 --> 02:13:57,600 ornithological divisions. 2407 02:13:57,700 --> 02:13:59,800 I'll tell you this, he's no ostrich. 2408 02:14:01,200 --> 02:14:03,900 I know of no man who will call it as it is with such candor 2409 02:14:04,100 --> 02:14:06,200 and judgment as this man, Clark Clifford. 2410 02:14:06,400 --> 02:14:08,600 We got a light at the end of the tunnel now! 2411 02:14:17,900 --> 02:14:19,300 It's probably a small attack, 2412 02:14:19,400 --> 02:14:21,900 Mr. President the embassy compound's been hit before. 2413 02:14:22,100 --> 02:14:23,500 Mr. Secretary, it's not just the embassy, 2414 02:14:23,700 --> 02:14:25,500 the palace, legislature, airport, too 2415 02:14:31,800 --> 02:14:32,600 Secretary Rusk! 2416 02:14:32,700 --> 02:14:34,000 Put it on the speaker phone. 2417 02:14:37,300 --> 02:14:38,300 Go ahead, Ben. 2418 02:14:38,800 --> 02:14:42,300 Dean, I've got the duty officer at the Embassy, Alan Brandt. 2419 02:14:42,500 --> 02:14:45,200 Mr. Brandt! Mr. Brandt can you hear me? 2420 02:14:45,300 --> 02:14:47,700 They're shooting right outside, Mr. Secretary. 2421 02:14:48,200 --> 02:14:49,700 Outside of the Embassy compound? 2422 02:14:49,800 --> 02:14:52,300 Inside! They blew through the wall, 2423 02:14:52,500 --> 02:14:53,400 they're at the doors. 2424 02:14:53,500 --> 02:14:54,800 Rostow, Casualty report. 2425 02:14:55,000 --> 02:14:57,200 Do you have something to defend yourself with, Mr. Brandt? 2426 02:14:57,400 --> 02:15:00,300 I'm at the window! They're below me. They see me. 2427 02:15:00,500 --> 02:15:03,000 They're looking right at me. I've got to go, Mr. Secretary. 2428 02:15:03,100 --> 02:15:04,800 I've got to go I've got to get out Small attack!? 2429 02:15:04,900 --> 02:15:06,300 These are desperation moves, 2430 02:15:06,500 --> 02:15:08,600 Mr. President we've got them on the run! 2431 02:15:08,800 --> 02:15:10,300 It's not just Saigon. 2432 02:15:11,800 --> 02:15:13,500 The Vietcong have launched surprise attacks 2433 02:15:13,700 --> 02:15:18,000 on 36 of the provincial capitals of South Vietnam. 2434 02:15:18,100 --> 02:15:20,000 From the streets of Wai near the DMZ, 2435 02:15:20,100 --> 02:15:22,600 to the US Embassy compound in Saigon, 2436 02:15:22,700 --> 02:15:26,600 the casualty count on both sides has been unprecedented. 2437 02:15:27,100 --> 02:15:29,000 The U.S. Military says it is successfully 2438 02:15:29,100 --> 02:15:31,100 beating back the Vietcong attacks, 2439 02:15:31,200 --> 02:15:34,300 but clearly they are paying an enormous price. 2440 02:15:34,500 --> 02:15:36,800 The enemy's well-laid plans went afoul! 2441 02:15:36,900 --> 02:15:40,100 They tried to ignite a revolution in the South, and they failed. 2442 02:15:40,300 --> 02:15:43,600 If this is a failure, God help us when they have a success. 2443 02:16:01,400 --> 02:16:03,800 I've given em all the men, the planes, the guns, 2444 02:16:03,900 --> 02:16:05,000 the bullets he said he needed, 2445 02:16:05,100 --> 02:16:06,900 I thought we were winnin this thing! 2446 02:16:07,000 --> 02:16:10,000 Now Westmoreland says he wants 206,000 more troops! 2447 02:16:10,200 --> 02:16:11,900 2448 02:16:12,000 --> 02:16:13,900 We'll have 750,000 there. 2449 02:16:14,100 --> 02:16:16,800 Three quarters of a million men in Vietnam. 2450 02:16:16,900 --> 02:16:19,400 Light at the end of the tunnel! Hell, we don't even have a tunnel! 2451 02:16:19,500 --> 02:16:21,400 We don't even know where the tunnel is! 2452 02:16:21,500 --> 02:16:22,900 I want you to get Westmoreland here, 2453 02:16:23,000 --> 02:16:25,000 get your people together and look at this thing. 2454 02:16:25,200 --> 02:16:26,500 We'll give em the boys if we have to, 2455 02:16:26,600 --> 02:16:27,900 but on your recommendation. 2456 02:16:28,100 --> 02:16:29,100 You'll wait? 2457 02:16:29,200 --> 02:16:31,000 I'll wait, but not for long. 2458 02:16:31,100 --> 02:16:33,900 If he needs em what the hell am I supposed to do!? 2459 02:16:34,900 --> 02:16:38,500 Old friend... get me an answer. 2460 02:16:39,200 --> 02:16:42,000 Give us these troops and we can seize the initiative! 2461 02:16:42,100 --> 02:16:43,500 But it will just be more of the same! 2462 02:16:43,600 --> 02:16:45,900 The enemy's taken 200,000 killed 2463 02:16:46,100 --> 02:16:47,300 and he'll take 200,000 more! 2464 02:16:47,400 --> 02:16:48,500 We've lost a tenth that many 2465 02:16:48,700 --> 02:16:50,100 and Americans are rioting in the streets. 2466 02:16:50,300 --> 02:16:52,800 They should be cheering! They Vietcong lost. 2467 02:16:52,900 --> 02:16:54,200 We were victorious. 2468 02:16:54,400 --> 02:16:54,800 That's true, Walt, 2469 02:16:55,000 --> 02:16:57,100 but remember they only committed 2470 02:16:57,300 --> 02:17:00,000 to this offensive--holding enough back to strike again. 2471 02:17:00,100 --> 02:17:02,000 That's right, damn it and it could happen at any time. 2472 02:17:02,100 --> 02:17:03,700 I say put the men in. 2473 02:17:03,900 --> 02:17:05,900 There are no more trained men. 2474 02:17:06,100 --> 02:17:09,000 We would ship raw troops and train them in the rear. 2475 02:17:09,200 --> 02:17:12,300 What rear? There is no rear in Vietnam anymore. 2476 02:17:12,400 --> 02:17:15,100 I would hope we've at least learned that from this victory. 2477 02:17:15,200 --> 02:17:18,500 With 206,000 more men we could go into Laos, Cambodia, 2478 02:17:18,700 --> 02:17:21,100 North Vietnam and cut out their supply routes once 2479 02:17:21,200 --> 02:17:24,100 and for all we have never been given that authority! 2480 02:17:24,800 --> 02:17:28,700 Excuse me, General. Dean, you said the enemy 2481 02:17:28,900 --> 02:17:32,200 committed 175,000 men to the offensive. 2482 02:17:32,400 --> 02:17:33,300 That's right, Clark. 2483 02:17:33,500 --> 02:17:35,200 And General Westmoreland says that they suffered 2484 02:17:35,300 --> 02:17:38,800 to wounded ratio. 2485 02:17:38,900 --> 02:17:40,300 It's right here in my report. 2486 02:17:40,500 --> 02:17:42,700 We beat the pants off them! 2487 02:17:43,300 --> 02:17:46,000 Then how in the hell can we justify to the public sending 2488 02:17:46,100 --> 02:17:47,900 hundreds of thousands more men!? 2489 02:17:48,000 --> 02:17:49,800 We tell them this: 2490 02:17:49,900 --> 02:17:53,500 that we're within inches of victory inches! 2491 02:17:53,700 --> 02:17:56,000 2492 02:17:56,700 --> 02:17:57,400 Yes, sir. 2493 02:17:57,500 --> 02:18:00,400 And 3.5 times that number are out of action? 2494 02:18:00,600 --> 02:18:01,500 It's in the report, Clark. 2495 02:18:01,600 --> 02:18:05,900 If there's 45,000 dead and three and a half times that number... 2496 02:18:06,000 --> 02:18:07,600 2497 02:18:07,700 --> 02:18:12,500 2498 02:18:13,100 --> 02:18:17,800 General, according to you and General Westmoreland 2499 02:18:17,900 --> 02:18:23,100 we have killed and wounded 120% of the enemy. 2500 02:18:28,600 --> 02:18:31,100 It's becoming more and more evident 2501 02:18:31,200 --> 02:18:33,800 that an out and out military victory 2502 02:18:33,900 --> 02:18:36,500 cannot be achieved with any strategy. 2503 02:18:38,500 --> 02:18:42,800 So... these are my recommendations: 2504 02:18:43,300 --> 02:18:46,100 one, send Westmoreland only those forces 2505 02:18:46,300 --> 02:18:48,600 that will satisfy his immediate need. 2506 02:18:48,800 --> 02:18:51,400 Wheeler has agreed to 22,000 plus 2507 02:18:51,500 --> 02:18:52,800 the units previously approved 2508 02:18:52,900 --> 02:18:55,000 and already scheduled for deployment. 2509 02:18:55,100 --> 02:18:57,400 This would stave off immediate defeat 2510 02:18:57,500 --> 02:18:59,800 while we move to negotiations. 2511 02:19:00,300 --> 02:19:01,900 We realize that the settlemen 2512 02:19:02,000 --> 02:19:03,800 will not be favorable for Saigon 2513 02:19:03,900 --> 02:19:05,100 and they would fight it. 2514 02:19:06,400 --> 02:19:08,900 Two, the bombing, 2515 02:19:09,000 --> 02:19:10,400 Wheeler, the other Chiefs 2516 02:19:10,500 --> 02:19:16,500 and Walt Rostow all advocate hitting the remaining targets in Hanoi 2517 02:19:16,700 --> 02:19:19,100 and Haiphong and mining and bombing the harbors. 2518 02:19:19,200 --> 02:19:21,500 With the support of everyone else, 2519 02:19:22,400 --> 02:19:24,100 I recommend a bombing halt. 2520 02:19:24,200 --> 02:19:27,200 I've told you, I'm not gonna stop the bombin . 2521 02:19:27,300 --> 02:19:28,900 It keeps the lead out of our boys. 2522 02:19:29,100 --> 02:19:30,800 There's little evidence to support that, 2523 02:19:30,900 --> 02:19:34,000 sir and the bombing is going to be the single greatest issue 2524 02:19:34,200 --> 02:19:36,300 in the Presidential campaign. 2525 02:19:36,700 --> 02:19:39,200 The perception is evolving out 2526 02:19:39,300 --> 02:19:42,200 there that Eugene McCarthy is the peace candidate and 2527 02:19:42,300 --> 02:19:43,900 you are the war candidate. 2528 02:19:45,500 --> 02:19:48,700 If McCarthy has a good showing in New Hampshire, 2529 02:19:48,900 --> 02:19:50,300 I think Bobby'll throw his hat in. 2530 02:19:50,400 --> 02:19:51,700 But he can't beat you 2531 02:19:51,900 --> 02:19:53,100 if you're sitting at the peace table. 2532 02:19:53,300 --> 02:19:56,100 Peace table! Sell out South Vietnam. 2533 02:19:56,300 --> 02:19:57,800 This is your advice!? 2534 02:19:58,300 --> 02:20:01,300 If I could lay a plan to win the war before... 2535 02:20:01,500 --> 02:20:02,800 I gotta go on TV in three weeks 2536 02:20:02,900 --> 02:20:04,900 and explain all this to the American people! 2537 02:20:05,000 --> 02:20:07,600 Huh? And you're tellin me to cut and run admit defeat that 2538 02:20:07,800 --> 02:20:09,800 for nothin ! 2539 02:20:09,900 --> 02:20:13,000 That 20,000 American mothers weep for nothin ! 2540 02:20:13,100 --> 02:20:15,000 The situation has changed since Tet. 2541 02:20:15,200 --> 02:20:17,200 Yes, it has! Tet was a failure! 2542 02:20:17,300 --> 02:20:18,800 The enemy has failed to overrun us 2543 02:20:18,900 --> 02:20:20,100 and we are poised to win 2544 02:20:20,200 --> 02:20:22,300 and now it's only you and your people 2545 02:20:22,400 --> 02:20:24,800 who are advising against the extra effort 2546 02:20:24,900 --> 02:20:27,800 it'll take to turn three years of miserable war into victory! 2547 02:20:27,900 --> 02:20:31,100 And I'm telling you there is no victory to be had! 2548 02:20:31,200 --> 02:20:34,000 Not without measures that'll tear this country apart 2549 02:20:34,100 --> 02:20:35,500 and bring down this administration! 2550 02:20:35,600 --> 02:20:37,800 I told you to get out of Vietnam three years ago 2551 02:20:37,900 --> 02:20:39,900 Lyndon when you... What about two years ago, and one! 2552 02:20:40,100 --> 02:20:42,200 Hey? You shot down every bombing pause, 2553 02:20:42,300 --> 02:20:43,900 backed every troop increase! 2554 02:20:44,000 --> 02:20:46,200 Don't you dare! Mr. President, 2555 02:20:46,300 --> 02:20:49,000 my counsel has not deviated one whit! 2556 02:20:49,100 --> 02:20:54,200 My every word, then as now has been informed solely by my commitment 2557 02:20:54,300 --> 02:20:56,300 to preserve your Presidency 2558 02:20:56,400 --> 02:20:59,100 and establish your place in this country's history! 2559 02:20:59,200 --> 02:21:02,800 I shoulda cleaned house November 63, got rid of all of 2560 02:21:02,900 --> 02:21:05,500 em, McNamara, Bundy, Connally, 2561 02:21:05,700 --> 02:21:10,000 wooin me those fuckin Kennedy lovers would be disloyal to me! 2562 02:21:10,100 --> 02:21:11,200 All of em! 2563 02:21:19,500 --> 02:21:22,000 They only advised you, Mr. President. 2564 02:21:24,100 --> 02:21:25,500 You decided. 2565 02:21:27,900 --> 02:21:29,800 Against all your natural instincts 2566 02:21:31,200 --> 02:21:37,700 against the whole of your life experience... you decided. 2567 02:21:43,000 --> 02:21:46,000 Senator Eugene McCarthy, dove of Vietnam, 2568 02:21:46,100 --> 02:21:47,600 who was virtually unknown to voters 2569 02:21:47,700 --> 02:21:49,400 of this state two months ago, 2570 02:21:49,500 --> 02:21:51,100 has finished in a virtual tie 2571 02:21:51,300 --> 02:21:54,400 with the sitting President of the United States, Lyndon Johnson. 2572 02:21:55,200 --> 02:21:57,200 Since poles taken only a week ago, 2573 02:21:57,300 --> 02:21:59,100 predicted Johnson would win two-thirds 2574 02:21:59,200 --> 02:22:01,500 of the vote and McCarthy only eleven percent, 2575 02:22:01,700 --> 02:22:03,600 the Senator's surprisingly high turn-out 2576 02:22:03,700 --> 02:22:05,400 has shocked the country. 2577 02:22:05,500 --> 02:22:09,100 I run because it is now unmistakably clear 2578 02:22:09,200 --> 02:22:11,700 that we can change these disastrous, 2579 02:22:11,800 --> 02:22:16,100 divisive policies only by changing the men 2580 02:22:16,300 --> 02:22:17,700 who are now making them. 2581 02:22:18,400 --> 02:22:21,400 I run because I am convinced that this country 2582 02:22:21,500 --> 02:22:23,900 is on a perilous course 2583 02:22:24,100 --> 02:22:26,200 and because I have such strong feelings 2584 02:22:27,100 --> 02:22:29,500 about what must be done 2585 02:22:29,700 --> 02:22:31,900 and I feel that I am obliged 2586 02:22:32,100 --> 02:22:35,300 to do all that I can. Oh, I was there, 2587 02:22:35,400 --> 02:22:36,600 I was there when you told your brother 2588 02:22:36,700 --> 02:22:38,700 to go into that place. I was there. 2589 02:22:38,800 --> 02:22:40,500 And now I'm payin for it day 2590 02:22:40,700 --> 02:22:44,100 after day after day while you cut me to pieces! 2591 02:22:44,600 --> 02:22:46,900 There's blood on your hands, you traitor! 2592 02:22:47,000 --> 02:22:48,900 ...prolong that war. Our troops are being killed 2593 02:22:49,300 --> 02:22:53,000 by the bullets and the mines of the South. 2594 02:22:53,400 --> 02:22:55,100 If by ending the bombing of the North 2595 02:22:55,300 --> 02:22:57,500 we can bring peace to South Vietnam, 2596 02:22:57,500 --> 02:23:00,900 then we will save the lives of thousands of our young men, 2597 02:23:01,000 --> 02:23:03,000 and thousands of Vietnamese. 2598 02:23:20,400 --> 02:23:21,500 Yes, Mr. President? 2599 02:23:22,700 --> 02:23:23,900 I talked to Mills. 2600 02:23:25,700 --> 02:23:28,500 He won't back a war surtax unless we go on TV 2601 02:23:28,600 --> 02:23:29,900 and announce deep cuts. 2602 02:23:30,900 --> 02:23:31,900 I want you to go up there 2603 02:23:32,100 --> 02:23:33,900 and talk to everybody at Ways and Means. 2604 02:23:34,100 --> 02:23:35,800 I'm meeting with five of them in the morning, sir. 2605 02:23:35,900 --> 02:23:38,500 Take Ackley up with ya, to back up the numbers, 2606 02:23:39,000 --> 02:23:41,500 cause they wont believe anything outta the White House anymore. 2607 02:23:41,700 --> 02:23:43,700 That's a good idea. Anything else, Mr. President? 2608 02:23:43,800 --> 02:23:44,900 I.... 2609 02:23:49,800 --> 02:23:51,600 Are you all right, Mr. President? 2610 02:23:53,800 --> 02:23:56,200 Yeah, Joe, I'm all right. 2611 02:24:01,800 --> 02:24:09,200 Joe...Senator Kennedy's speech who wrote it for him? 2612 02:24:12,300 --> 02:24:15,300 This guy Walinsky on his staff's been writing a lot of his stuff. 2613 02:24:15,400 --> 02:24:18,500 I don't know, maybe Schlesinger, Sorensen. 2614 02:24:19,300 --> 02:24:20,500 Goodwin? 2615 02:24:21,500 --> 02:24:24,100 I think he was involved... yes. 2616 02:24:26,500 --> 02:24:28,000 All right, Joe. Thanks. 2617 02:24:29,200 --> 02:24:30,300 Sir. 2618 02:24:38,000 --> 02:24:40,100 I could never again raise my voice against 2619 02:24:40,200 --> 02:24:43,100 the violence of the oppressed in the ghettos 2620 02:24:43,300 --> 02:24:45,100 without having first spoken clearly to 2621 02:24:45,200 --> 02:24:49,100 the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today 2622 02:24:49,200 --> 02:24:51,000 my own government. 2623 02:24:58,800 --> 02:25:00,300 Hey-hey-LBJ, how many kids you kill today? 2624 02:25:00,500 --> 02:25:03,800 Hey-hey-LBJ, how many kids you kill today? 2625 02:25:03,900 --> 02:25:06,000 Hey-hey-LBJ, how many kids you kill today? 2626 02:25:06,100 --> 02:25:08,400 The largest antiwar demonstration yet brought hundreds 2627 02:25:08,500 --> 02:25:11,400 of thousands of protesters into the streets of American cities. 2628 02:25:11,500 --> 02:25:13,800 The radicals say that since peaceful demonstrations 2629 02:25:13,900 --> 02:25:14,500 won't end the war, 2630 02:25:14,700 --> 02:25:17,500 they're ready to move from protest to resistance. 2631 02:25:17,700 --> 02:25:19,600 With talk of full-scale rebellion 2632 02:25:19,800 --> 02:25:22,600 is sweeping the country from college campus's to the inner cities 2633 02:25:22,700 --> 02:25:24,600 the mood is turning ugly 2634 02:25:24,700 --> 02:25:27,300 and there's a dangerous sense that the Nation's political 2635 02:25:27,500 --> 02:25:29,100 is spinning out of control. 2636 02:25:29,200 --> 02:25:32,100 For it seems now more certain than ever that the bloody 2637 02:25:32,200 --> 02:25:35,800 experience of Vietnam is to end in a stalemate. 2638 02:25:35,900 --> 02:25:38,300 This summer's almost certain stand-off 2639 02:25:38,400 --> 02:25:41,800 will either end in real give and take negotiations 2640 02:25:42,000 --> 02:25:43,900 or terrible escalation. 2641 02:25:44,500 --> 02:25:47,100 But it is increasingly clear to this reporter, 2642 02:25:47,200 --> 02:25:51,300 that the only rational way out then will be to negotiate 2643 02:25:51,500 --> 02:25:54,700 not as victors but as an honorable people 2644 02:25:54,900 --> 02:25:57,800 who lived up to their pledge to defend democracy 2645 02:25:57,900 --> 02:25:59,900 and did the best they could. 2646 02:26:00,600 --> 02:26:02,700 This is Walter Cronkite, goodnight. 2647 02:27:08,800 --> 02:27:11,700 Well, say what you think. 2648 02:27:13,600 --> 02:27:14,800 All right. 2649 02:27:15,800 --> 02:27:18,400 It's tough. And effective. 2650 02:27:18,500 --> 02:27:22,700 But the music in it is sad and sour to the ear. 2651 02:27:24,300 --> 02:27:28,100 And I don't know that any speechwriter could have made it sing. 2652 02:27:30,200 --> 02:27:32,600 I got a hundred bills in committee 2653 02:27:32,700 --> 02:27:34,600 and they'll never see the light of day. 2654 02:27:35,200 --> 02:27:37,300 But I think I could pass a thousand bills 2655 02:27:37,400 --> 02:27:39,000 more education, more health care, 2656 02:27:39,100 --> 02:27:42,400 more rights but it wouldn't matter 2657 02:27:42,500 --> 02:27:45,700 cause it seems nothin I say, no matter how I say 2658 02:27:45,900 --> 02:27:48,100 it could ever bring this country together again. 2659 02:27:49,700 --> 02:27:53,200 Then perhaps eloquence of speech 2660 02:27:54,300 --> 02:27:55,800 is no longer the answer... 2661 02:27:55,900 --> 02:27:57,900 but eloquence of action. 2662 02:28:07,400 --> 02:28:08,500 Mr. Secretary... 2663 02:28:08,600 --> 02:28:10,000 Would you be kind enough to make sure that the 2664 02:28:10,200 --> 02:28:12,000 President sees that this evening? 2665 02:28:12,100 --> 02:28:13,100 Clark? 2666 02:28:13,200 --> 02:28:14,300 Lady Bird 2667 02:28:14,400 --> 02:28:16,400 I promised to have these budget figures 2668 02:28:16,500 --> 02:28:17,300 by the end of the day. 2669 02:28:17,400 --> 02:28:18,800 Oh, he's right inside. 2670 02:28:19,000 --> 02:28:21,800 No, no, I won't disturb him. 2671 02:28:21,900 --> 02:28:22,900 Thank you, goodnight. 2672 02:28:23,100 --> 02:28:24,400 Clark? 2673 02:28:27,100 --> 02:28:30,900 Uh, Clark. I've got the speech here. 2674 02:28:32,000 --> 02:28:33,400 I need your help with it. 2675 02:28:35,400 --> 02:28:37,900 You know that I'm at your service, Mr. President. 2676 02:28:38,100 --> 02:28:39,300 I know, old friend. 2677 02:29:36,600 --> 02:29:38,900 Good evening, my fellow Americans. 2678 02:29:39,000 --> 02:29:41,800 Tonight, I want to speak to you of peace 2679 02:29:41,900 --> 02:29:44,900 in Vietnam and Southeast Asia. 2680 02:29:45,400 --> 02:29:48,700 We are prepared to move immediately towards peace 2681 02:29:48,900 --> 02:29:50,600 through negotiations. 2682 02:29:50,800 --> 02:29:53,600 We are reducing, substantially reducing 2683 02:29:53,700 --> 02:29:55,800 the present level of hostilities 2684 02:29:55,900 --> 02:29:59,800 and we are doing so unilaterally, and at once. 2685 02:30:00,900 --> 02:30:04,500 Tonight, I have ordered our aircraft 2686 02:30:04,600 --> 02:30:07,900 and our naval vessels to make no more attacks 2687 02:30:08,000 --> 02:30:09,800 on North Vietnam 2688 02:30:09,900 --> 02:30:13,700 except in the area north of the demilitarized zone 2689 02:30:13,800 --> 02:30:17,200 where the continuing enemy buildup directly threatens 2690 02:30:17,300 --> 02:30:20,000 allied forward positions. 2691 02:30:20,100 --> 02:30:24,000 The area in which we are stopping our attacks includes 2692 02:30:24,100 --> 02:30:27,600 almost 90% of North Vietnam's population 2693 02:30:27,800 --> 02:30:29,700 and most of its territory. 2694 02:30:30,500 --> 02:30:32,900 Our purpose in this action is to bring 2695 02:30:33,000 --> 02:30:38,000 about a reduction in the level of violence that now exists. 2696 02:30:38,100 --> 02:30:40,900 It is to save the lives of brave men 2697 02:30:41,000 --> 02:30:44,300 and to save the lives of innocent women and children. 2698 02:30:44,800 --> 02:30:47,200 Now, as in the past, 2699 02:30:47,400 --> 02:30:50,700 the United States is ready to send its representatives, 2700 02:30:50,800 --> 02:30:54,200 in any forum, any time to discuss 2701 02:30:54,300 --> 02:30:58,200 the means of bringing this ugly war to an end. 2702 02:31:00,000 --> 02:31:03,900 There is a division in the American house now. 2703 02:31:04,500 --> 02:31:08,000 There is divisiveness among us all tonight. 2704 02:31:08,100 --> 02:31:11,000 With America's sons in the fields far away, 2705 02:31:11,500 --> 02:31:15,400 with America's future under challenge right here at home... 2706 02:31:15,600 --> 02:31:21,200 with our hopes and the world's hopes for peace in the balance everyday, 2707 02:31:21,700 --> 02:31:26,600 I do not believe that I should devote an hour or a day of my time 2708 02:31:26,800 --> 02:31:31,200 to any personal partisan causes or to any duties 2709 02:31:31,300 --> 02:31:34,300 other than the awesome duties of this office 2710 02:31:34,800 --> 02:31:37,500 the Presidency of your country. 2711 02:31:39,300 --> 02:31:42,500 Accordingly, I shall not seek, 2712 02:31:43,400 --> 02:31:44,800 and I will not accept, 2713 02:31:44,900 --> 02:31:47,500 the nomination of my party 2714 02:31:47,600 --> 02:31:51,400 for another term as your President. 2715 02:31:56,000 --> 02:31:58,100 But let men everywhere know, 2716 02:31:58,200 --> 02:32:01,600 however, that a strong, and a confident, 2717 02:32:01,700 --> 02:32:04,900 and a vigilant America stands ready tonight 2718 02:32:05,100 --> 02:32:07,000 to seek an honorable peace 2719 02:32:07,200 --> 02:32:10,900 and stands ready tonight to defend an honored cause, 2720 02:32:11,000 --> 02:32:12,800 whatever the price, 2721 02:32:12,900 --> 02:32:14,300 whatever the burden, 2722 02:32:14,400 --> 02:32:18,000 whatever the sacrifice that that duty may require. 2723 02:32:20,200 --> 02:32:21,500 Thank you for listening. 2724 02:32:22,500 --> 02:32:26,100 Good night and God bless you all. 2725 02:33:21,700 --> 02:33:24,700 President Johnson's speech and the bombing cutback, 2726 02:33:24,900 --> 02:33:27,100 led to the first peace talks between the U.S. 2727 02:33:27,200 --> 02:33:29,300 and North Vietnam. 2728 02:33:29,400 --> 02:33:32,000 Negotiations derailed under President Nixon, 2729 02:33:32,100 --> 02:33:34,100 but a settlement was eventually signed 2730 02:33:34,200 --> 02:33:36,100 after four more years of war, 2731 02:33:36,200 --> 02:33:38,000 at the end of which more than 58,000 2732 02:33:38,100 --> 02:33:41,700 Americans and two million Vietnamese were dead. 2733 02:33:42,900 --> 02:33:46,500 President Johnson died on January 22, 1973, five days 2734 02:33:46,600 --> 02:33:49,400 before the Paris Peace Accords were signed. 2735 02:33:49,600 --> 02:33:53,500 Many of the programs and initiatives of the Great Society endure. 211896

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