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- And how did it happen?
- Beat me up.
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They made me stand against the wall,
like this with me arms outstretched...
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...and my legs stretched out behind me.
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Kept me like this for ages,
for over 30 hours or somethin' like that.
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And if I tried to relax or lower me arms,
they hit me.
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And then they gave me the crab treatment.
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Were you arrested on Section 12?
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- Yeah.
- Okay. Good.
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Do you have any idea why?
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Sort of like most of me mates
were accused of belongin' to the IRA.
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Which he wasn't.
That's why they let him go.
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Could you demonstrate
this crab treatment to us?
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Yeah.
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One of them grabbed me...
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...you know, with me arms back here...
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...while his mate punched me
in the stomach.
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He just punched me and punched me.
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And the other one
kept askin' me questions...
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...askin' more questions,
and they punched me again.
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Okay?
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- Are you all right?
- Yeah.
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Jim, why don't you tell them
what happened to you?
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I was arrested the week before Michael
and taken to Castlereagh.
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And then they threw me
into a cell for about four hours.
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They took me out...
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...brought me up to what
they call an interview room.
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And two cops were sittin' there with me.
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One of the cops asked me my name.
I never told him my name...
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...'cause if they didn't know my name,
they wouldn't have arrested me.
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At once, as soon as I told him,
all four cops came rushin' in the room...
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...took me off the chair,
lifted me by the arms and legs...
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...and held me over a table.
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And one of them put a towel
round my face.
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He was holding it
at the back of my neck here...
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...and another one poured water
over my nose and mouth.
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It was goin' up my nose
and into my throat...
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...I was gettin' the drowning feeling.
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Sullivan?
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Get the bastard!
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I don't believe it.
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- Tribal rites.
- It's frightening.
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Can I take you onto the question
of the treatment of prisoners...
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...the question of interrogation techniques
referred to in the press release.
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It suggests that these allegations
of ill-treatment have reduced since 1978.
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Can I ask you to comment?
Do you have a view...
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...as to whether these forms of
ill-treatment that you found are fair?
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What evidence do you have for them?
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Not to be too dramatic, but these are all...
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...statements of alleged maltreatment that
we have collected over our time here.
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And that one?
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"Punching, slapping, kicking the plaintiff.
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"Causing, requiring, permitting the plaintiff
to lie on the floor of an interview room.
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"Causing, requiring,
permitting the plaintiff...
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"...to remove his coat and shoes
in the interview room.
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"Punching the plaintiff
in the abdominal area.
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"Banging the plaintiff's head off the wall
of the interview room.
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"Standing on the plaintiff's
shoulders, stomach, ankles and chest.
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"Squeezing the plaintiff's neck.
Squeezing the plaintiff's testicles.
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"Causing, requiring,
permitting the plaintiff...
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- "...to be spreadled..."
- Spread-eagled.
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"Between three members
of the Royal Ulster Constabulary...
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"...while one kicked him with his heel
in the area of the abdomen and raped..."
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Et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
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These are unconfirmed allegations, right?
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Allegations for which
there is no outside evidence.
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These are allegations
from a group of people.
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A great deal of this evidence
is corroborated.
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Is it a war situation or not?
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If it's a war situation,
to solve that war situation...
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...you have to negotiate,
and so to accept that there are two sides...
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...putting around a table to negotiate...
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...and that, the British
government doesn't accept.
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Does your report deal with
the shoot-to-kill policy...
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...operatin' here in the six counties?
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Allegations of a shoot-to-kill policy
carried out by the RUC...
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...the UDR, and the British Army
does form part of our report, yes.
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- Do you have any figures?
- Yes, in...
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...the period of 1969 to 1980...
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...the evidence shows
that at least 130 people...
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...were killed by the security forces,
and half of those deaths...
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...were of civilians
that had no connection...
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...with paramilitary activities at all.
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Given the fact that there is a state
of armed insurrection in Northern Ireland...
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...do you not concede
the government has every right...
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...to take whatever measures
it deems necessary to...
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...stem this insurrection?
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Britain is recognized the world over
as a democratic state.
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We will present our report
based on the documented evidence.
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And hopefully,
the British government will respond.
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I'm sure they will.
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Thank you. That's all we have time for.
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We're flying out tomorrow. Thank you.
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Hi.
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- I'm Teresa Doyle. Republican News.
- Excuse me?
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Republican News.
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You know the shoot-to-kill?
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It happens all the time.
I could show you a photograph.
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- Of what?
- Of an execution.
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You have that with you?
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It's not the sort of thing you carry around
the streets of Belfast in your handbag.
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But I could get it to you.
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I'm sorry. Our investigation's concluded.
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- So you're not interested?
- No, we're not here to be used.
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Maybe that's all you're here for.
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Paul?
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- Is that the tape from yesterday?
- Yeah.
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I'm glad we're leaving tomorrow.
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Belfast reminds me of Chile.
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There's no comparison.
How can you say that?
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That's the way it feels:
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Killings, torture, intrigue.
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A reality check:
What happened in Chile can't happen here.
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- Let's eat.
- Yeah.
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- You got any money?
- Yes, I do.
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Good.
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So good night. See you tomorrow.
Tough day.
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Good night.
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Can you believe
he turned around and waved?
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- Do you know him?
- I don't know. I thought I did.
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- No messages.
- Okay, thanks.
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Yes.
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Harris?
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- I listened to your tape.
- Have you come to a decision?
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I don't know.
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We must talk.
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They saw us together.
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- How do you know?
- After I left you, I was followed.
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That means you're under surveillance.
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I really don't think that this is something
that I should get involved in...
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...but I'll tell you what I can do.
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I can turn the tape over
to whatever authorities you deem...
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No! That would be crazy.
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We must meet.
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- Where?
- Near Dungannon. Now.
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It's less than an hour's drive away.
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Look, I've got a plane to catch.
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This won't take long.
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Mr. Sullivan?
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- Where's Harris?
- He's down the road, waiting on you.
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I am here to take you to him.
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You can leave your car here.
We'll go in mine.
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- My car's okay here?
- It's quite safe there.
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By the way, my name's Frank Molloy.
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- Did you bring the tape?
- Yeah.
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1169.
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Sorry?
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800 years: That's how long
we've been fightin' for independence.
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Sword...
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...famine, burnin'...
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...hangin', shootin', transportation:
We've had it all.
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Who's Harris?
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It's better he tells you himself.
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There's a car behind us.
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Is it following us?
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We'll soon find out.
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There's something wrong here.
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Get down! Get down!
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- Ms. Ingrid Jessner?
- Yes.
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I'm afraid we've got some
rather serious news for you.
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- May we come in?
- What is it?
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It's about Mr. Sullivan.
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He's been involved in a
rather serious incident.
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They were killedin a car crash early this morning...
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... which involved a policecheckpoint outside Dungannon.
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The men,who were driving a yellow Ford Cortina...
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... were signaled by police to stop.
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Ignoring the warning, the car acceleratedand drove directly at the officers.
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Police opened fire on the vehicleas it attempted to escape.
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The car then went out of controland careered off the road.
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Upon arrival at the crash scene,police found the occupants were dead.
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Names of the two menhave not yet been released.
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Can you identify the body
as that of Paul Sullivan?
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Yes.
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Ingrid.
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Come on. Let's go.
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Ms. Jessner,
where have you just come from?
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Can you move away?
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It's said the man in the car
with Mr. Sullivan was a terrorist suspect.
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Is that true?
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- What are you suggesting?
- Who was with Mr. Sullivan?
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- I have no idea.
- Police say he was a terrorist suspect.
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Did the car go through a police roadcheck?
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They say they opened fire
after the car went through a checkpoint?
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Where were they going this morning?
Did you know?
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As journalists, you must appreciate
that I can't talk about this right now.
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The driver of the carin which the shooting occurred...
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... has been named as Frank Molloy.Police said the car failed to stop...
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... at a roadblock outside Dungannonaround 6:15 this morning.
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An RUC statement saidthe driver accelerated...
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... toward their officers,who opened fire on the fleeing car...
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... causing it to swerve off the road.
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Also in the car was Paul Sullivan,an American lawyer and a leading figure...
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... in the International Leaguefor Civil Liberties.
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What's puzzling observers...
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... is why Mr. Sullivan should havedriven out of Belfast...
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... in the early hours of the morningto meet a man...
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... who the police say is a terrorist suspect.
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This is Ivan Little,Ulster Television, Dungannon.
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With me in the studio to discuss...
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... the political implicationsof today's shooting...
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... is Mr. Alec Nevin...
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... who is a Conservative Party spokesmanon Northern Ireland.
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Mr. Nevin,earlier, we saw pictures of Americans...
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... demonstrating outsidethe British embassy in Washington.
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Let's make a distinction.What we saw was a demonstration...
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... by supporters of the IRA...
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Could I finish my question?
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The people who give comfortand weapons...
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... to the men of violence.
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John Ware, Labour MP.
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A particularly embarrassing thing,I would think...
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... was, of course, the death ofthis civil-liberties spokesman...
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It's quite clear that peoplewill be asking the question:
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Does this mean the investigationhas hit on a raw nerve...
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... has revealed some of the thingsthat have been perpetrated...
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... by security forces due totheir presence in Northern Ireland?
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Is Ms. Jessner coming
down to talk to us today?
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- No. She's resting.
- How is she?
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All right.
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Have you been told any more
about what happened...
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...on the morning of the shooting?
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The only thing that we know is that
Mr. Sullivan has been murdered...
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...by a member of the security forces...
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...near Dungannon in a car, a rented car...
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...with a man called Mr. Molloy.
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Did Mr. Sullivan have
Republican sympathies?
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- No.
- Was he a member of Noraid?
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- Not at all.
- What kind of a man was he, Mr. Sullivan?
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The only thing I can say is he was
a very good lawyer and a great fighter...
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...for the civil rights all over the world
and a marvelous friend.
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The British government have
just appointed...
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...Deputy Chief Constable Kerrigan...
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...to head up the investigation
on the shooting.
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What's your reaction to that?
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I've heard that Kerrigan is
a fine investigator of the CID...
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...but we would have preferred that...
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...it would have been
an independent, international inquiry.
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So you don't have
any confidence in the inquiry?
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I've got a certain amount
of skepticism about that.
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You said that you were skeptical. Why?
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Why will the Kerrigan inquirynot discover the truth?
242
00:25:10,876 --> 00:25:15,711
Because you had a lot of inquiriesin the 13 past years...
243
00:25:15,780 --> 00:25:19,011
... and it didn't change anything.
244
00:25:36,735 --> 00:25:39,863
Excuse me, sir.
I'm Sgt. Hughes, your liaison for your stay.
245
00:25:39,971 --> 00:25:42,371
Hello.
This is Chief Superintendent Maxwell.
246
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,738
How do you do?
The car's just outside the front.
247
00:25:44,809 --> 00:25:47,141
- Can I take your bag?
- Thank you.
248
00:25:52,551 --> 00:25:55,019
- This Jessner woman...
- Sullivan's girlfriend.
249
00:25:55,086 --> 00:25:59,455
What time is it now?
4:00. Late in the day.
250
00:26:00,258 --> 00:26:02,453
What about this Mrs. Molloy?
251
00:26:03,161 --> 00:26:06,187
She lives in Fort William.
252
00:26:07,232 --> 00:26:09,496
How far is it to Fort William, Sergeant?
253
00:26:09,568 --> 00:26:13,231
Fort William's just over here
on the right, sir, about a mile away.
254
00:26:15,173 --> 00:26:17,937
It might be a good idea
if you spoke to them both together.
255
00:26:18,009 --> 00:26:19,567
Let them feed off each other.
256
00:26:44,569 --> 00:26:46,059
Your ID, Sarge?
257
00:27:02,921 --> 00:27:04,752
Might as well leave the cases in the car.
258
00:27:04,823 --> 00:27:08,122
- We'll be going to the hotel after.
- Sure they'll be safe here?
259
00:27:08,193 --> 00:27:09,717
I hope so, sir.
260
00:27:21,940 --> 00:27:23,464
Just in here, sir.
261
00:27:30,348 --> 00:27:33,408
- We're a bit pushed for space, sir.
- Not bad.
262
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,714
I want a large wall map of Northern Ireland
and a blackboard.
263
00:27:37,789 --> 00:27:40,622
- Blackboard?
- Those big black things you write on.
264
00:27:41,092 --> 00:27:42,491
Yes, sir.
265
00:27:42,694 --> 00:27:47,757
- I'll tell Mr. Brodie you're here, sir.
- Thank you, Sergeant. That's kind of you.
266
00:27:54,439 --> 00:27:57,374
Hello.
267
00:27:58,710 --> 00:28:02,942
- I've seen Jack Cunningham lately.
- What's he doing nowadays?
268
00:28:03,014 --> 00:28:06,415
- He runs his own security business.
- He must be rolling in it.
269
00:28:06,484 --> 00:28:08,145
He's earned it.
270
00:28:09,087 --> 00:28:11,419
Pleasure to meet you, Mr. Kerrigan.
271
00:28:11,489 --> 00:28:13,150
Chief Superintendent Maxwell.
272
00:28:13,224 --> 00:28:14,384
Sir.
273
00:28:14,459 --> 00:28:16,427
- Good flight?
- Bit cramped.
274
00:28:16,494 --> 00:28:18,257
Yeah, always is.
275
00:28:18,730 --> 00:28:20,755
This is not what you're used to, I suppose.
276
00:28:20,832 --> 00:28:23,699
It's the best we can do
for one of Britain's top policemen.
277
00:28:23,768 --> 00:28:25,167
It's perfectly adequate.
278
00:28:26,504 --> 00:28:29,132
- Anything else you need?
- Thank you. I'll ask.
279
00:28:29,207 --> 00:28:31,698
Detective Sgt. Hughes
will be your liaison officer.
280
00:28:31,776 --> 00:28:34,404
He will organize
all your internal appointments.
281
00:28:34,479 --> 00:28:38,677
- Yes, secretarial staff...
- She'll be arriving tomorrow.
282
00:28:38,850 --> 00:28:40,340
Excuse me.
283
00:28:42,554 --> 00:28:45,785
- Have you read the CID interim report?
- Yes.
284
00:28:46,958 --> 00:28:49,085
Now, as I understand it...
285
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:53,790
...your terms of reference in the inquiry
are to reexamine the evidence and...
286
00:28:53,865 --> 00:28:56,356
Or if necessary,
reinvestigate the circumstances...
287
00:28:56,434 --> 00:28:59,460
...which led to the shooting
of Paul Sullivan and Frank Molloy.
288
00:28:59,938 --> 00:29:03,135
I'm sure that your expertise
will be appreciated.
289
00:29:03,842 --> 00:29:07,073
However, I should warn you
that you may encounter some prejudice.
290
00:29:07,645 --> 00:29:11,172
- From members of your force?
- Possibly. But don't let that deter you.
291
00:29:11,249 --> 00:29:12,716
It won't.
292
00:29:13,618 --> 00:29:17,577
See, you have to bear in mind
the situation here in Northern Ireland.
293
00:29:17,655 --> 00:29:20,283
We operate under enormous pressure.
294
00:29:20,925 --> 00:29:23,758
For the last 12 years,
the Royal Ulster Constabulary...
295
00:29:23,828 --> 00:29:27,696
...have fought to maintain the peace
against the terrorists.
296
00:29:28,299 --> 00:29:30,859
140 people have given their lives.
297
00:29:31,269 --> 00:29:32,759
3,500 have been injured.
298
00:29:33,238 --> 00:29:36,537
And 155 medals for outstanding
feats of gallantry.
299
00:29:37,041 --> 00:29:39,305
Naturally, when outsiders
from the mainland...
300
00:29:39,377 --> 00:29:42,972
...come here to the province to tell us...
- I do understand.
301
00:29:44,949 --> 00:29:48,578
But rest assured,
no obstacle will be placed in your path.
302
00:29:48,653 --> 00:29:51,986
- You'll receive my full cooperation.
- Thank you.
303
00:29:52,290 --> 00:29:55,851
About accommodation, we have a couple
of safe houses where RUC personnel...
304
00:29:55,927 --> 00:30:00,762
I think it would be better if we
were to stay in a small hotel somewhere.
305
00:30:01,266 --> 00:30:02,290
Can I ask why?
306
00:30:02,367 --> 00:30:05,495
I don't want to socialize with officers
I might have to question.
307
00:30:05,570 --> 00:30:08,095
Best keep it on a strictly
professional basis.
308
00:30:08,540 --> 00:30:11,703
- Could I just say one thing, so...
- Also, I'll need a car...
309
00:30:12,477 --> 00:30:14,240
...without a driver.
310
00:30:14,979 --> 00:30:17,311
You realize that I can't
guarantee your safety?
311
00:30:17,382 --> 00:30:18,406
Absolutely.
312
00:30:18,483 --> 00:30:21,509
Just let me say one thing,
so there can be no misunderstanding.
313
00:30:21,653 --> 00:30:26,613
When you have completed your inquiry,
you will deliver your report to me first.
314
00:30:27,992 --> 00:30:31,359
- I understood it was to go to the DPP first.
- No, it comes to me first.
315
00:30:31,429 --> 00:30:34,057
I will forward it
to the Director of Public Prosecutions.
316
00:30:34,132 --> 00:30:36,794
That is the constitutional position.
317
00:30:37,068 --> 00:30:40,731
We might as well keep that
on a professional basis, too.
318
00:30:40,805 --> 00:30:43,239
- Okay.
- Thank you.
319
00:30:53,785 --> 00:30:55,252
Ingrid...
320
00:30:55,987 --> 00:30:59,855
Henri and I will stay with you
for as long as you need us.
321
00:31:00,258 --> 00:31:02,123
- I'm okay.
- You sure?
322
00:31:03,127 --> 00:31:06,722
I think you can do more
back home than you can do here.
323
00:31:14,973 --> 00:31:16,270
Hello?
324
00:31:17,308 --> 00:31:20,334
No, it isn't Ingrid. Who is calling?
325
00:31:22,914 --> 00:31:24,882
Can you wait a second?
326
00:31:25,717 --> 00:31:27,582
It's Paul's mother.
327
00:31:32,557 --> 00:31:34,047
All right?
328
00:31:37,795 --> 00:31:39,057
Rose?
329
00:31:46,271 --> 00:31:48,136
How are you? Are you all right?
330
00:31:48,206 --> 00:31:50,572
Is there somebody there?
Is somebody with you?
331
00:31:50,642 --> 00:31:52,610
That's good.
332
00:31:53,745 --> 00:31:57,806
I'm all right.
I have some friends here, and it's...
333
00:32:37,488 --> 00:32:40,889
What's the crack on this
Insp. Stephens of CID?
334
00:32:41,125 --> 00:32:44,356
Stephens? Decent enough man.
335
00:32:45,129 --> 00:32:46,926
Is he handling the shooting?
336
00:32:46,998 --> 00:32:50,456
Yes. If he was one of my detectives,
he'd be back in uniform.
337
00:32:50,535 --> 00:32:51,559
Why?
338
00:32:51,636 --> 00:32:55,128
Three hours after the shooting,
the RUC issued a statement.
339
00:32:55,406 --> 00:32:56,964
It was fabricated.
340
00:32:57,542 --> 00:33:00,375
- Maybe they had a reason?
- No resistance was offered.
341
00:33:00,445 --> 00:33:03,903
The weapon found in the car
clearly didn't belong there.
342
00:33:04,048 --> 00:33:06,676
Forensic showed that
the shot that killed the Yank...
343
00:33:06,751 --> 00:33:10,847
...was fired at two meters.
The trajectory was wrong.
344
00:33:11,889 --> 00:33:15,689
The officer that did the shooting
claims he shot at 25 feet.
345
00:33:16,060 --> 00:33:18,893
None of this was in the interim report.
346
00:33:19,430 --> 00:33:23,491
What if there were witnesses,
and it comes out at the inquest?
347
00:33:23,568 --> 00:33:26,036
You know as well as I
how long these things take.
348
00:33:26,104 --> 00:33:28,937
I know of two cases:
One seven years ago, the other was five.
349
00:33:29,007 --> 00:33:32,238
- There's still no inquest in either of them.
- This one's different.
350
00:33:32,310 --> 00:33:35,370
There's a lot of dead bodies
in Northern Ireland, Peter.
351
00:33:35,780 --> 00:33:40,149
Jack, you haven't been followin' the news.
Why the hell do you think I'm here?
352
00:33:40,351 --> 00:33:44,287
- A prominent American was involved.
- Brodie was hoping you'd do a snow job.
353
00:33:44,355 --> 00:33:45,879
Not a chance.
354
00:33:45,957 --> 00:33:47,925
Next to the Pope,
you're about to become...
355
00:33:47,992 --> 00:33:50,825
...the most unpopular man
in Northern Ireland.
356
00:33:50,895 --> 00:33:54,387
What you have to understand is
Special Branch control the whole thing.
357
00:33:55,033 --> 00:33:56,523
Why do you think I got out?
358
00:33:57,168 --> 00:34:01,002
As soon as my time was up,
I just grabbed my pension and ran.
359
00:34:02,707 --> 00:34:05,301
These three policemen involved
in the shooting...
360
00:34:05,710 --> 00:34:08,736
- Cowboys, not policemen.
- Tell me about them.
361
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:13,109
Members of an antiterrorist squad,
operating undercover.
362
00:34:13,184 --> 00:34:15,379
SSU, Special Support Unit...
363
00:34:15,853 --> 00:34:17,787
...code-named Echo 4 Alpha.
364
00:34:17,855 --> 00:34:20,323
- Answerable to whom?
- Don't ask.
365
00:34:20,725 --> 00:34:22,249
I have to know.
366
00:34:22,627 --> 00:34:25,187
I'm not saying
we shouldn't use them against the IRA...
367
00:34:25,263 --> 00:34:30,098
...but the fact is, they're out of control.
They're off the wire, trigger-happy.
368
00:34:31,302 --> 00:34:33,167
They go where they want,
do what they want.
369
00:34:33,237 --> 00:34:35,967
They shoot first, no questions asked.
370
00:34:36,841 --> 00:34:40,038
The other side don't play
by the rules either.
371
00:34:40,178 --> 00:34:41,611
We're not the IRA.
372
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,971
Goin' back to these three policemen...
373
00:34:45,049 --> 00:34:47,517
If they were involved,
then it's a covert operation.
374
00:34:47,585 --> 00:34:50,349
- What about Special Branch?
- They are Special Branch.
375
00:34:50,421 --> 00:34:54,016
- Sanctioned by them?
- Or Ml5 or Ml6.
376
00:34:54,792 --> 00:34:57,056
Take your pick.
We all piss in the same pot.
377
00:35:00,832 --> 00:35:03,323
If the British public knew
half of what goes on...
378
00:35:03,401 --> 00:35:06,495
...in Northern Ireland,
they wouldn't sleep in their beds.
379
00:35:06,571 --> 00:35:11,008
- I don't know what the answer is.
- Good night, Jack. Thanks.
380
00:35:11,275 --> 00:35:12,902
Do yourself a favor, Peter.
381
00:35:12,977 --> 00:35:15,445
I know it goes against the grain,
but toe the line.
382
00:35:15,513 --> 00:35:17,913
Give them what they want,
and get back to England.
383
00:35:17,982 --> 00:35:20,678
- We'll see.
- You're a pillock!
384
00:35:20,751 --> 00:35:21,979
Mind how you go.
385
00:35:22,220 --> 00:35:25,678
Nobody gives a shit
what happens in Northern Ireland.
386
00:36:37,061 --> 00:36:40,497
- What's wrong?
- I found this on the seat of my car.
387
00:36:41,432 --> 00:36:44,401
"The next bullet is for you
if you don't get out of Ireland.
388
00:36:44,468 --> 00:36:46,197
"Our day will come."
389
00:36:47,205 --> 00:36:48,536
IRA?
390
00:36:52,577 --> 00:36:54,545
It's a 9-millimeter.
391
00:36:54,612 --> 00:36:56,477
Walther PPK pistol.
392
00:36:58,282 --> 00:37:01,683
That's a weapon favored by the cowboys
we talked about earlier.
393
00:37:02,853 --> 00:37:04,878
- Echo 4 Alpha?
- Yeah.
394
00:37:06,958 --> 00:37:08,425
So where are you taking me?
395
00:37:09,927 --> 00:37:11,758
It's one of ours, Peter.
396
00:37:13,097 --> 00:37:14,758
Excuse me. Hi.
397
00:37:16,500 --> 00:37:18,229
Good afternoon, Ms. Jessner.
398
00:37:18,636 --> 00:37:20,331
- Any further news yet?
- No, none.
399
00:37:20,404 --> 00:37:22,463
- What are your plans now?
- I have none...
400
00:37:22,540 --> 00:37:25,634
...and I don't want to say anything.
Please, now, thank you.
401
00:37:25,910 --> 00:37:27,138
- Ms. Jessner.
- Mr. Kerrigan.
402
00:37:27,211 --> 00:37:28,872
- Thank you for seeing me.
- Of course.
403
00:37:28,946 --> 00:37:30,971
Did you get in touch with Mrs. Molloy?
404
00:37:31,048 --> 00:37:33,516
Yes. She's expecting us.
405
00:37:34,285 --> 00:37:36,583
How are your skills as a navigator?
406
00:37:56,374 --> 00:37:57,966
This is Paradox.
407
00:37:59,010 --> 00:38:00,978
Subjects leaving location.
408
00:38:01,612 --> 00:38:03,375
Tabs on now, please.
409
00:38:10,788 --> 00:38:13,256
Paul was murdered, Mr. Kerrigan.
410
00:38:13,891 --> 00:38:17,554
- Why would the police want to kill him?
- I don't know, but they did.
411
00:38:18,229 --> 00:38:20,754
- What proof do you have?
- None.
412
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,868
But I do know what goes on here.
413
00:38:25,269 --> 00:38:29,262
Torture, paid informants,
roadside executions, death squads.
414
00:38:35,980 --> 00:38:39,643
Mr. Kerrigan,
when I was going through Paul's things...
415
00:38:39,717 --> 00:38:42,652
...I found something
I think might be important.
416
00:38:43,220 --> 00:38:44,949
It's an empty cassette box.
417
00:38:45,690 --> 00:38:48,921
Paul was meticulous,
and I can't find that tape.
418
00:38:49,627 --> 00:38:51,822
- Did you ask about it?
- I told the police.
419
00:38:51,896 --> 00:38:55,992
- And what did they say?
- They would look into it and call me back.
420
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,191
- And did they?
- No.
421
00:38:59,437 --> 00:39:01,268
What was on the tape?
422
00:39:01,339 --> 00:39:05,002
I don't know,
but he was listening to it the night before.
423
00:39:11,515 --> 00:39:13,005
This is it.
424
00:39:17,321 --> 00:39:21,485
I also found this list of names.
425
00:39:21,559 --> 00:39:23,754
- Is this his writing?
- Yes.
426
00:39:30,568 --> 00:39:33,128
This is a pretty formidable group.
427
00:39:34,138 --> 00:39:37,198
Lord Randall, Alec Nevin,
Sir Gerald Binning...
428
00:39:39,877 --> 00:39:41,344
Why did he write these six names?
429
00:39:41,412 --> 00:39:43,676
- I don't know.
- Had he met them?
430
00:39:43,748 --> 00:39:45,773
No, not that I know of.
431
00:39:47,551 --> 00:39:49,485
Have you shown this to anyone else?
432
00:39:49,553 --> 00:39:52,681
No. Why, what do you think it is?
433
00:39:52,957 --> 00:39:54,891
What do you think?
434
00:39:55,993 --> 00:39:58,621
Could be people targeted, hit list.
435
00:40:00,865 --> 00:40:04,995
- I'm not saying it is, but...
- Paul was not involved with terrorists.
436
00:40:05,069 --> 00:40:06,934
Perhaps innocently.
437
00:40:07,138 --> 00:40:10,505
- Maybe he was being used.
- He was too smart to be manipulated.
438
00:40:10,574 --> 00:40:12,599
He was a good lawyer.
He thought like one.
439
00:40:12,676 --> 00:40:14,644
Then why did he write down
these six names?
440
00:40:14,712 --> 00:40:18,273
And why did he leave the hotel
at 5:00 in the morning, leaving you?
441
00:40:18,916 --> 00:40:21,146
What was he doing
driving around Dungannon...
442
00:40:21,218 --> 00:40:23,652
...with a fringe member of the IRA?
443
00:40:24,922 --> 00:40:27,288
He must have been mixed up in something.
444
00:40:28,092 --> 00:40:30,720
Mrs. Molloy, is this Frank's father?
445
00:40:30,795 --> 00:40:33,355
- That's his father.
- Who's that?
446
00:40:33,431 --> 00:40:38,368
Them's his friends, lifelong friends.
They just can't believe it either.
447
00:40:39,937 --> 00:40:44,806
Those were taken on holiday.
It was the last holiday we had.
448
00:40:47,278 --> 00:40:49,838
Have you a religion, Mr. Kerrigan?
449
00:40:50,915 --> 00:40:52,348
Catholic.
450
00:40:52,416 --> 00:40:56,079
In the heel of the hunt,
we'll all be answerable to God.
451
00:40:56,387 --> 00:40:59,254
I curse the bloody day
we ever came back here.
452
00:40:59,323 --> 00:41:00,847
Why did you?
453
00:41:01,158 --> 00:41:05,288
No choice. He was workin'
for the Ministry of Defense in London.
454
00:41:05,629 --> 00:41:10,464
Some bright spark sent him on this course.
Then he was transferred over here.
455
00:41:10,534 --> 00:41:12,798
What kind of work did he do?
456
00:41:13,204 --> 00:41:15,069
It came under the army...
457
00:41:15,306 --> 00:41:18,434
...to do with education
and publishing things.
458
00:41:19,410 --> 00:41:23,005
To tell you the truth,
he never talked much about it...
459
00:41:23,180 --> 00:41:25,080
...but he wasn't happy.
460
00:41:25,149 --> 00:41:27,014
That's why he left?
461
00:41:27,718 --> 00:41:31,347
Under a cloud.
Said he couldn't stomach it anymore.
462
00:41:32,323 --> 00:41:34,553
Can I take a look at these?
463
00:41:36,727 --> 00:41:39,753
- Who's that?
- That's Grace's weddin'.
464
00:41:40,531 --> 00:41:43,694
- It's your daughter?
- That was a beautiful day.
465
00:41:43,767 --> 00:41:45,667
She looks wonderful.
466
00:41:46,370 --> 00:41:47,632
Mrs. Molloy...
467
00:41:49,907 --> 00:41:52,398
Did your husband ever mention
Paul to you?
468
00:41:52,476 --> 00:41:53,670
No.
469
00:41:54,845 --> 00:41:57,643
They must have known each other, though,
don't you think?
470
00:41:57,715 --> 00:42:00,843
They must've.
But I never heard Frank mention him.
471
00:42:01,151 --> 00:42:03,517
You were telling us earlier...
472
00:42:03,821 --> 00:42:06,255
...that the house was searched.
473
00:42:06,524 --> 00:42:08,458
Yes. Two days after.
474
00:42:09,793 --> 00:42:12,227
Do you know who authorized it?
Was it the police?
475
00:42:12,396 --> 00:42:14,660
The big knock authorized it.
476
00:42:14,999 --> 00:42:19,197
1:00 in the mornin',
you either open up, or your door goes in.
477
00:42:19,837 --> 00:42:21,828
Did they question you?
478
00:42:22,039 --> 00:42:24,507
Asked me if I knew Capt. Harris.
479
00:42:25,175 --> 00:42:26,164
Capt. Harris?
480
00:42:26,577 --> 00:42:30,274
Frank's old boss.
Worked in a unit at Lisburn.
481
00:42:30,614 --> 00:42:33,708
- And what did you tell them?
- Told them the truth.
482
00:42:33,784 --> 00:42:36,412
The last time I saw Capt. Harris...
483
00:42:36,921 --> 00:42:38,218
...was at the weddin'.
484
00:42:38,489 --> 00:42:40,957
Did they find anything?
485
00:42:41,592 --> 00:42:44,959
They took away some papers
and all his cassette tapes.
486
00:42:45,029 --> 00:42:47,020
- Tapes?
- The lot.
487
00:42:47,765 --> 00:42:50,734
Capt. Harris, if he was at the wedding...
488
00:42:50,801 --> 00:42:53,395
...he might be in one of these photographs.
489
00:42:53,470 --> 00:42:55,461
You've just been looking at it.
490
00:42:55,539 --> 00:42:59,532
- This one?
- That's him, next to the groom.
491
00:43:02,012 --> 00:43:03,377
I know him.
492
00:43:03,614 --> 00:43:06,412
- You met him?
- No, I know his face.
493
00:43:07,952 --> 00:43:10,648
He was talking to Paul
at the Orange Parade.
494
00:43:11,722 --> 00:43:15,658
- Here are the documents you asked for, sir.
- Thank you, Chief.
495
00:43:27,972 --> 00:43:30,702
Could you initial there, Mr. Maxwell?
496
00:43:38,182 --> 00:43:42,744
And you'll have to sign
the secured-documents book as well.
497
00:43:48,392 --> 00:43:51,623
And how did you get involved
in civil liberties?
498
00:43:52,763 --> 00:43:54,287
I was in Chile.
499
00:43:54,598 --> 00:43:56,623
I was doing some research...
500
00:43:56,700 --> 00:43:59,396
...for a TV documentary
called The Disappeared.
501
00:43:59,937 --> 00:44:03,236
It was about the victims of Pinochet
after the coup.
502
00:44:03,307 --> 00:44:07,471
- Paul was there working for the League.
- When was that?
503
00:44:08,045 --> 00:44:09,535
1975.
504
00:44:10,381 --> 00:44:13,509
There was a technical adviser
working with us...
505
00:44:14,051 --> 00:44:16,519
...a young Chilean journalist.
506
00:44:17,021 --> 00:44:20,513
He disappeared one day
and I went to the League and Paul...
507
00:44:20,591 --> 00:44:23,856
...to see if they could find out
what happened to him.
508
00:44:26,263 --> 00:44:28,561
- And did they?
- No.
509
00:44:31,068 --> 00:44:33,866
It was a year before we found out
he'd been executed.
510
00:44:34,571 --> 00:44:36,562
What happened to the film?
511
00:44:36,774 --> 00:44:39,902
- Never got made.
- Too controversial?
512
00:44:39,977 --> 00:44:41,274
Too honest, I think.
513
00:44:42,079 --> 00:44:45,139
It was about how Mr. Kissinger,
the CIA, and the Pentagon...
514
00:44:45,215 --> 00:44:47,945
...had made Chile safe for democracy.
515
00:44:51,188 --> 00:44:53,622
So I quit TV and joined the league.
516
00:44:54,224 --> 00:44:56,317
Got to know Paul better.
517
00:44:59,029 --> 00:45:01,429
How about you? You have a wife?
518
00:45:01,498 --> 00:45:02,692
Yes.
519
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:04,792
- Kids?
- Three.
520
00:45:05,536 --> 00:45:08,334
Two at university, one away at school.
521
00:45:08,505 --> 00:45:11,065
- See them much?
- Not as often as I'd like.
522
00:45:11,141 --> 00:45:14,474
May I have your attention, please?Telephone call for Mr. Kerrigan.
523
00:45:14,545 --> 00:45:17,742
- Would a Mr. Kerrigan please...
- Excuse me.
524
00:45:17,815 --> 00:45:19,282
Thank you.
525
00:45:26,623 --> 00:45:27,817
Yes?
526
00:45:28,025 --> 00:45:31,324
It's Tom. I got that stuff on Harris,what there is of it.
527
00:45:31,395 --> 00:45:32,589
Go ahead.
528
00:45:32,663 --> 00:45:37,032
The first name's James John.
Born Gateshead, 1942.
529
00:45:37,334 --> 00:45:41,600
Religion, Protestant.
Joined the army, 1960, as a private soldier.
530
00:45:41,805 --> 00:45:44,365
Promoted to the rank of lieutenant in '64.
531
00:45:45,042 --> 00:45:47,875
Doesn't say which mob. 1971...
532
00:45:48,112 --> 00:45:49,306
...he attended a course...
533
00:45:49,379 --> 00:45:53,873
...at the United States Army
Special Warfare School at Fort Bragg.
534
00:45:54,118 --> 00:45:56,279
A year later, 1972...
535
00:45:56,653 --> 00:46:01,283
...he was seconded to the
Psychological Warfare Unit...
536
00:46:01,492 --> 00:46:02,652
...known as PSYOPS.
537
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,058
- The same place Molloy went to.
- Right.
538
00:46:05,129 --> 00:46:09,088
In 1973, he was sent to Northern Irelandas a senior captain.
539
00:46:09,767 --> 00:46:14,704
That's it, apart from a list of postings
at various regiments.
540
00:46:14,772 --> 00:46:16,865
- Nothing else?
- Dead end.
541
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:18,337
And since '73?
542
00:46:19,009 --> 00:46:21,375
- Classified.
- They told you that?
543
00:46:21,445 --> 00:46:23,675
With great emphasis.
The shutters came down.
544
00:46:30,854 --> 00:46:33,880
If there is a connection
between Paul's death and Harris...
545
00:46:33,957 --> 00:46:35,686
There has to be.
546
00:46:35,959 --> 00:46:38,359
Then I need to know more
about the background.
547
00:46:38,428 --> 00:46:40,692
Why not start with where he is?
548
00:46:40,764 --> 00:46:43,324
According to the colonel
I spoke to in Lisburn...
549
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,834
...Harris is away on leave
and can't be traced.
550
00:46:47,905 --> 00:46:50,169
There was a hint
he may be suffering from stress.
551
00:46:50,240 --> 00:46:52,140
Do you believe that?
552
00:46:52,409 --> 00:46:53,569
No.
553
00:46:54,845 --> 00:46:56,107
Mr. Kerrigan...
554
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:58,939
How far are you willing to go with this?
555
00:46:59,850 --> 00:47:00,908
Lf...
556
00:47:01,552 --> 00:47:03,611
...and it's still a big if...
557
00:47:03,687 --> 00:47:07,453
...but if Harris is, in any way,
connected with this shooting...
558
00:47:08,025 --> 00:47:10,619
...I don't care whose toes I tread on.
559
00:47:10,694 --> 00:47:15,063
He becomes part of the investigation,
no more, no less.
560
00:47:16,900 --> 00:47:18,731
- Okay?
- Okay.
561
00:47:20,204 --> 00:47:23,571
What it boils down to, Sergeant,
is that you're in deep trouble.
562
00:47:23,907 --> 00:47:27,172
You're in a shit storm,
and it's blowing around your ears.
563
00:47:27,244 --> 00:47:29,576
We're not just talking about
disciplinary charges.
564
00:47:29,646 --> 00:47:31,511
It goes beyond that.
565
00:47:31,582 --> 00:47:34,244
You could be facing a murder charge.
566
00:47:34,551 --> 00:47:37,145
This man Sullivan was
no run-of-the-mill Paddy...
567
00:47:37,221 --> 00:47:39,189
...you could just blow away.
568
00:47:39,256 --> 00:47:42,020
He was an American lawyer
with an international reputation.
569
00:47:42,092 --> 00:47:45,152
Now, there is no way
this will be brushed under the carpet.
570
00:47:46,763 --> 00:47:48,492
How old are you?
571
00:47:49,333 --> 00:47:50,493
37.
572
00:47:51,368 --> 00:47:54,667
- How long have you been on the force?
- Twelve years.
573
00:48:00,177 --> 00:48:03,510
Two years ago,
you shot dead a Republican in the Falls.
574
00:48:03,580 --> 00:48:06,879
- It was either him or me, sir.
- I'm not criticizing you, Sergeant.
575
00:48:06,950 --> 00:48:08,781
You should have been given
a commendation.
576
00:48:08,852 --> 00:48:11,412
- I was.
- I'm on your side.
577
00:48:13,624 --> 00:48:15,524
But if you go down for this...
578
00:48:16,293 --> 00:48:20,320
...how long do you think you'd last
in the Crumlin Road Prison?
579
00:48:25,269 --> 00:48:27,464
- You searched the bodies?
- Yes, sir.
580
00:48:27,537 --> 00:48:30,062
- Took away all personal effects?
- Yes, sir.
581
00:48:30,207 --> 00:48:32,437
Find anything interesting on Sullivan?
582
00:48:32,776 --> 00:48:37,475
Usual stuff: Wallet, money, ID card.
583
00:48:38,482 --> 00:48:40,973
What about the tape he was carrying?
584
00:48:43,587 --> 00:48:45,646
There was no tape, sir.
585
00:48:47,257 --> 00:48:49,623
- Are you getting all this?
- Yes, sir.
586
00:48:49,693 --> 00:48:52,287
- Read out that last bit.
- From where?
587
00:48:52,362 --> 00:48:53,989
From me asking about the tape.
588
00:48:54,498 --> 00:48:59,265
"What about the tape he was carrying?"
"There was no tape, sir."
589
00:49:00,470 --> 00:49:02,529
Do you want me to leave it at that?
590
00:49:02,673 --> 00:49:06,200
It's up to you. You've already lied once
in your statement to the CID.
591
00:49:06,276 --> 00:49:10,736
- I'm bound by the Official Secrets Act.
- Not anymore, you're not.
592
00:49:11,848 --> 00:49:14,078
All constraints are lifted.
593
00:49:14,985 --> 00:49:18,216
You can wipe the slate clean
and tell me everything that happened...
594
00:49:18,288 --> 00:49:21,689
...and you might get off with a reprimand,
or you bury yourself deeper.
595
00:49:22,426 --> 00:49:24,223
So what's it gonna be?
596
00:49:32,369 --> 00:49:34,166
After the shooting...
597
00:49:35,439 --> 00:49:38,636
...we returned to the barracks
for the debriefing.
598
00:49:40,978 --> 00:49:42,707
We were told...
599
00:49:43,580 --> 00:49:46,310
...by a senior officer what to say.
600
00:49:47,718 --> 00:49:48,946
Name?
601
00:49:50,721 --> 00:49:52,348
Superintendent Fraser.
602
00:49:53,357 --> 00:49:55,587
He instructed you to lie to the CID?
603
00:49:55,792 --> 00:49:57,191
Yes, sir.
604
00:49:57,260 --> 00:50:00,252
He said it was to protect
our source of information.
605
00:50:00,330 --> 00:50:02,321
Do you know what that source was?
606
00:50:02,399 --> 00:50:04,560
No, sir. We were only told to intercept.
607
00:50:05,602 --> 00:50:08,230
Were you ordered to shoot on sight?
608
00:50:09,439 --> 00:50:11,373
Not in so many words.
609
00:50:12,275 --> 00:50:13,572
What does that mean?
610
00:50:14,544 --> 00:50:18,605
We were told that the two men in the car
were armed and dangerous...
611
00:50:18,682 --> 00:50:21,742
...and we mustn't take
any chances with them.
612
00:50:22,619 --> 00:50:24,849
How did you interpret that?
613
00:50:25,756 --> 00:50:28,691
I got the feeling that we were
being given clear signals...
614
00:50:28,759 --> 00:50:32,786
...to bring them back dead or alive,
and there'd be no questions asked.
615
00:50:33,630 --> 00:50:35,894
Now, tell me about the tape.
616
00:50:37,734 --> 00:50:39,998
We took it from the American.
617
00:50:40,070 --> 00:50:41,367
Go on.
618
00:50:42,272 --> 00:50:44,502
When we got back to the barracks...
619
00:50:45,108 --> 00:50:47,133
...Mr. Fraser was there to meet us.
620
00:50:47,210 --> 00:50:49,337
And there was someone else
along with him.
621
00:50:49,413 --> 00:50:52,644
- A police officer?
- More like Special Branch.
622
00:50:52,949 --> 00:50:55,577
- What was his name?
- I don't know.
623
00:50:55,652 --> 00:50:57,244
But he seemed to be in charge.
624
00:50:58,555 --> 00:51:00,489
Can you describe him?
625
00:51:00,957 --> 00:51:02,390
English...
626
00:51:03,326 --> 00:51:04,588
...tall...
627
00:51:05,262 --> 00:51:06,991
...thinning on top...
628
00:51:07,631 --> 00:51:09,223
...age, about 40.
629
00:51:11,268 --> 00:51:13,031
So what happened?
630
00:51:14,738 --> 00:51:18,333
The first thing the tall man asked about
was the tape.
631
00:51:19,709 --> 00:51:22,143
- Which he took with him?
- Yes, sir.
632
00:51:22,679 --> 00:51:26,445
- Have you any idea what was on the tape?
- Not a clue, sir.
633
00:51:29,853 --> 00:51:31,115
Okay.
634
00:51:32,656 --> 00:51:36,217
We'll just run through it again.
Then you can sign it.
635
00:51:40,564 --> 00:51:42,725
Do you have his statement?
636
00:51:46,670 --> 00:51:48,160
Here. Now.
637
00:51:48,872 --> 00:51:52,501
The senior officer that did the debriefing,
Superintendent Fraser, yeah...
638
00:51:52,576 --> 00:51:54,908
...I want to see him today.
639
00:51:55,045 --> 00:51:56,137
What do you think?
640
00:51:56,213 --> 00:51:58,875
I think it's time
I had a word with Mr. Brodie...
641
00:51:58,949 --> 00:52:03,352
...after I've interviewed Fraser.
There's something else I want you to do.
642
00:52:03,653 --> 00:52:07,089
Before he left the hotel,
Sullivan wrote a list of names.
643
00:52:07,157 --> 00:52:09,284
I want you to check them.
644
00:52:09,626 --> 00:52:13,494
The connection is obvious.
Famous punters, what have you.
645
00:52:14,397 --> 00:52:16,797
I want something more specific.
646
00:52:17,334 --> 00:52:20,963
- Has Brodie seen this?
- No. We'll keep it in the family.
647
00:52:27,577 --> 00:52:28,976
538, please.
648
00:52:32,516 --> 00:52:35,644
Here's your key,
and there's a message for you as well.
649
00:54:00,103 --> 00:54:02,833
- Hiya. Come on in.
- Thanks.
650
00:54:12,048 --> 00:54:13,208
Hey.
651
00:54:14,617 --> 00:54:16,517
- Kevin.
- Here you are.
652
00:54:17,253 --> 00:54:18,618
Thanks.
653
00:54:18,888 --> 00:54:22,324
Look, I was really sorry
to hear about Mr. Sullivan.
654
00:54:22,659 --> 00:54:24,058
Thanks.
655
00:54:27,163 --> 00:54:28,653
Do you smoke?
656
00:54:28,732 --> 00:54:32,190
- Here.
- Yes. Thanks.
657
00:54:33,136 --> 00:54:35,798
- So is it just you and Kevin?
- Yeah.
658
00:54:36,339 --> 00:54:39,069
His dad's doing 12 years in the Kesh.
659
00:54:40,543 --> 00:54:41,373
What for?
660
00:54:42,145 --> 00:54:45,012
Possession of arms and IRA membership.
661
00:54:45,315 --> 00:54:49,115
He was doing a punishment for the IRA
on some local gangsters...
662
00:54:49,185 --> 00:54:53,713
...who were robbin' their own community,
and he got caught by the RUC.
663
00:54:54,324 --> 00:54:57,316
Just like him.
He never did have much luck.
664
00:54:58,895 --> 00:55:02,854
So you said in your note
that you might have some information.
665
00:55:03,133 --> 00:55:05,431
I'm just delivering a message.
666
00:55:06,202 --> 00:55:09,501
Harris wants to meet you
and the policeman Kerrigan.
667
00:55:10,340 --> 00:55:12,331
- When?
- Tomorrow night.
668
00:55:13,877 --> 00:55:17,313
Look, after what's happened,
can you trust Kerrigan?
669
00:55:18,214 --> 00:55:23,083
- Yeah, I trust him. I think he's different.
- Anyway, Harris wants him there.
670
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:27,749
You're to meet at a Republican club
off Falls Road. I have the address.
671
00:55:28,525 --> 00:55:30,618
Will Kerrigan be safe in a Republican club?
672
00:55:30,693 --> 00:55:33,890
He'll be safe as long as you're with him.
673
00:55:34,464 --> 00:55:37,592
I'll get you that photograph
I told you about.
674
00:55:39,836 --> 00:55:41,326
This is it.
675
00:55:43,139 --> 00:55:45,471
He's an officer in the SAS.
676
00:55:46,276 --> 00:55:48,904
He led a killer squad across the border.
677
00:55:48,978 --> 00:55:51,412
That's where this photograph was taken.
678
00:55:59,956 --> 00:56:02,891
Is there anything
in Sgt. Kennedy's statement...
679
00:56:02,959 --> 00:56:05,689
...you disagree with, Superintendent?
680
00:56:06,629 --> 00:56:07,994
No, sir.
681
00:56:08,298 --> 00:56:11,734
He says that you instructed
him to lie to the CID...
682
00:56:12,335 --> 00:56:15,736
...about the shooting of Paul Sullivan
and Frank Molloy. Is this true?
683
00:56:17,340 --> 00:56:19,331
It was to protect our source of information.
684
00:56:19,409 --> 00:56:22,776
- Can you tell me what that source was?
- That's classified information.
685
00:56:22,846 --> 00:56:26,077
- On whose orders?
- On the orders of Mr. Brodie.
686
00:56:29,486 --> 00:56:33,217
When your men returned to the barracks,
they were given a debriefing.
687
00:56:33,456 --> 00:56:35,981
Were they given a cover-up story?
688
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:39,190
Certain evidence was withheld, yes.
689
00:56:39,262 --> 00:56:43,028
A dress rehearsal,
so they could decide what to tell the CID?
690
00:56:44,567 --> 00:56:46,364
- Yes, sir.
- By you?
691
00:56:47,537 --> 00:56:50,404
Yes, sir, but I was acting under orders.
692
00:56:53,376 --> 00:56:55,276
This Englishman...
693
00:56:57,013 --> 00:56:59,641
...tall, thinning hair, about 40...
694
00:57:00,416 --> 00:57:02,748
...who took the tape, who is he?
695
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,514
- Don't know, sir.
- Have you seen him before?
696
00:57:08,925 --> 00:57:11,052
Once, with Mr. Brodie.
697
00:57:11,394 --> 00:57:12,691
Where?
698
00:57:13,963 --> 00:57:15,988
Here, in this building.
699
00:57:16,633 --> 00:57:20,433
- Did he show you his authority?
- No, sir.
700
00:57:21,638 --> 00:57:24,300
He just walked in and took the tape?
701
00:57:25,108 --> 00:57:27,975
I received a phone call from Mr. Brodie.
702
00:57:28,645 --> 00:57:30,237
He told you to give it to him?
703
00:57:31,748 --> 00:57:33,147
Yes, sir.
704
00:57:35,552 --> 00:57:38,020
- Would you mind if I smoke, sir?
- Yes, I do.
705
00:57:55,605 --> 00:57:57,095
Go!
706
00:57:57,607 --> 00:57:58,869
Move! Move it!
707
00:57:59,242 --> 00:58:01,210
Get out of here!
708
00:58:02,278 --> 00:58:05,179
- Police!
- Get out of my house!
709
00:58:06,916 --> 00:58:10,249
- There's nobody in there! Just get out!
- Get inside, get in there.
710
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:13,585
What do you want? My baby's in there.
Don't let them go in there!
711
00:58:13,656 --> 00:58:16,056
I'm arresting you under
the Emergency Provisions Act.
712
00:58:16,125 --> 00:58:18,992
- Get your clothes on now!
- What are they doing?
713
00:58:19,062 --> 00:58:20,552
My baby's in the other room.
714
00:58:20,630 --> 00:58:23,190
Okay, that's too bad. Get your clothes on!
715
00:58:23,266 --> 00:58:25,962
- No! What are you arresting me for?
- Get your clothes on.
716
00:58:26,035 --> 00:58:29,334
- I'm arresting you under Section 11!
- I haven't done anything!
717
00:58:29,405 --> 00:58:32,966
- We'll see about that!
- Will you, now? I'm going nowhere!
718
00:58:33,042 --> 00:58:35,237
Tell him to get out of there!
My baby's in there!
719
00:58:35,311 --> 00:58:38,280
- Get your clothes on now!
- I'm putting no clothes on!
720
00:58:41,918 --> 00:58:44,284
Get off!
721
00:58:44,354 --> 00:58:46,720
- You bitch!
- Get off!
722
00:58:49,592 --> 00:58:52,584
- Get off me!
- Just calm down!
723
00:58:52,662 --> 00:58:54,721
I'm going nowhere
until I've seen a solicitor!
724
00:58:54,797 --> 00:58:58,528
- Just calm down! Open the door, Sam.
- What about my baby next door?
725
00:58:58,801 --> 00:59:01,133
Open that door. We're going downtown.
726
00:59:01,704 --> 00:59:04,036
- I'm going nowhere!
- Hold her!
727
00:59:12,682 --> 00:59:15,913
- Has Brodie's office returned my call yet?
- No.
728
00:59:16,986 --> 00:59:18,613
Try again now.
729
00:59:25,428 --> 00:59:27,157
Mr. Kerrigan's secretary.
730
00:59:27,230 --> 00:59:30,666
Did you set up that appointment
with Mr. Brodie yet?
731
00:59:31,067 --> 00:59:34,264
Why not?
I've been trying since 12:00 yesterday.
732
00:59:36,472 --> 00:59:38,667
Excuse me. He can't meet you today.
733
00:59:38,741 --> 00:59:41,938
- He has an official engagement.
- Playing games.
734
00:59:43,079 --> 00:59:44,671
Find out when he's leaving.
735
00:59:45,982 --> 00:59:48,075
Is Mr. Brodie there now?
736
00:59:49,085 --> 00:59:51,849
What time's his appointment? Thank you.
737
00:59:52,522 --> 00:59:53,921
He's there until 2:30.
738
01:00:06,302 --> 01:00:09,567
Two statements:
Fraser's and Sgt. Kennedy's.
739
01:00:09,639 --> 01:00:12,802
- I'd like to see them.
- They'll be in my report.
740
01:00:12,975 --> 01:00:15,375
- And now you want to question me?
- Interview you.
741
01:00:15,445 --> 01:00:18,346
- Make an appointment.
- All right. When?
742
01:00:18,781 --> 01:00:22,012
- At my convenience.
- Will you get off your fuckin' high horse?
743
01:00:22,618 --> 01:00:25,644
I don't ask your cooperation! I demand it!
744
01:00:27,590 --> 01:00:31,287
- What is it you want?
- Everything, chapter and verse.
745
01:00:32,228 --> 01:00:34,389
- That might not be possible.
- Why not?
746
01:00:34,630 --> 01:00:36,825
Give me your question,
and please try to hurry.
747
01:00:36,899 --> 01:00:39,367
I've got another funeral to attend.
748
01:00:39,435 --> 01:00:43,531
Both Superintendent Fraser and
Sgt. Kennedy admit there was a cover-up.
749
01:00:44,807 --> 01:00:47,833
- Fraser says you ordered it.
- Classified.
750
01:00:47,910 --> 01:00:49,343
Then the buck stops here?
751
01:00:49,445 --> 01:00:51,970
- It's classified.
- I can't accept that.
752
01:00:52,048 --> 01:00:54,949
Then put that in your report, too.
Next question.
753
01:00:55,485 --> 01:00:56,816
- He says...
- Who says?
754
01:00:56,886 --> 01:01:01,346
Fraser says
it was in order to protect the source.
755
01:01:01,691 --> 01:01:04,626
- That's acceptable.
- Not to me, it isn't.
756
01:01:04,694 --> 01:01:06,889
That's because
you have been meddling in things...
757
01:01:06,963 --> 01:01:11,263
Meddling? I am conducting
an investigation, for Christ's Sake!
758
01:01:12,502 --> 01:01:14,766
Cover-up stories are used
to protect informants...
759
01:01:14,837 --> 01:01:17,465
...whose lives might be endangered.
760
01:01:17,707 --> 01:01:18,935
Look.
761
01:01:19,108 --> 01:01:23,067
The last thing I want to do
is to probe into sensitive areas.
762
01:01:23,379 --> 01:01:25,939
But these civil-liberties people
are organized.
763
01:01:26,015 --> 01:01:28,916
They're sending over a lawyer
from the States for the inquest.
764
01:01:28,985 --> 01:01:29,974
So?
765
01:01:30,052 --> 01:01:32,680
They'll make mincemeat out of you.
They'll ask questions.
766
01:01:32,755 --> 01:01:34,723
I've got a couple questions of my own.
767
01:01:35,291 --> 01:01:36,883
There was no roadblock.
768
01:01:36,959 --> 01:01:39,519
No witnesses were questioned,
no resistance offered.
769
01:01:39,595 --> 01:01:41,756
The weapon found in the car
had no fingerprints.
770
01:01:41,831 --> 01:01:43,992
Forensic showed
the shot that killed Sullivan...
771
01:01:44,066 --> 01:01:48,332
...was fired at a distance of two meters
after the car had crashed.
772
01:01:48,404 --> 01:01:50,872
The officers involved
were acting on the assumption...
773
01:01:50,940 --> 01:01:53,067
...that both men
were armed and dangerous.
774
01:01:53,142 --> 01:01:54,541
Prove it.
775
01:01:56,312 --> 01:01:59,873
What was Sullivan doing in Dungannon
at 5:00 in the morning with Molloy?
776
01:01:59,949 --> 01:02:01,382
Was there a warrant out for them?
777
01:02:01,450 --> 01:02:03,782
- No, there wasn't.
- Then you've no case.
778
01:02:03,853 --> 01:02:06,788
There's no law against
two men deciding to go out for a drive.
779
01:02:06,856 --> 01:02:09,848
When that comes out in court,
your cover story will be blown...
780
01:02:09,926 --> 01:02:13,123
...because neither Kennedy nor Fraser
are prepared to carry the can.
781
01:02:13,196 --> 01:02:15,790
- That's for the DPP to decide.
- Will he have a choice?
782
01:02:15,865 --> 01:02:19,596
When that lawyer gets him at the inquest,
he'll squeeze him like toothpaste.
783
01:02:19,669 --> 01:02:22,695
Do you think I give a shit
about a smart-arsed American lawyer?
784
01:02:22,772 --> 01:02:24,672
I would, if I were you!
785
01:02:24,740 --> 01:02:29,370
Yes. The RUC do run covert operations,
but so do the IRA!
786
01:02:29,579 --> 01:02:33,208
If you want to bring home the bacon,
you first of all have to kill the pig.
787
01:02:34,283 --> 01:02:36,410
Now, if you will excuse me...
788
01:02:36,853 --> 01:02:39,788
...three of our young men
are being buried this morning.
789
01:02:39,856 --> 01:02:41,585
Blown up by a land mine.
790
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:46,152
I have more questions.
791
01:02:46,229 --> 01:02:48,720
Two of them were married
with young children.
792
01:02:48,798 --> 01:02:50,561
I want that tape.
793
01:02:52,602 --> 01:02:53,660
What tape?
794
01:02:53,736 --> 01:02:57,604
The tape they found on Sullivan's body
and brought back to Gough Barracks.
795
01:02:58,341 --> 01:02:59,672
This Fraser again?
796
01:02:59,742 --> 01:03:01,710
And Kennedy.
It's in both their statements.
797
01:03:01,777 --> 01:03:03,972
- I don't have the tape.
- But you know who does.
798
01:03:04,046 --> 01:03:07,140
- Classified information.
- "Classified" bullshit!
799
01:03:07,416 --> 01:03:11,614
What the fuck are you people runnin' here?
Your own private shooting war?
800
01:03:11,687 --> 01:03:13,587
Checks and balances, Mr. Kerrigan.
801
01:03:13,656 --> 01:03:15,954
Between the jigs and the reels,
we are winning.
802
01:03:16,025 --> 01:03:18,858
And innocent lives are being saved
as a result!
803
01:03:19,695 --> 01:03:22,493
The source you wish to protect
is Army Intelligence.
804
01:03:22,698 --> 01:03:24,063
Am I right?
805
01:03:27,003 --> 01:03:29,096
- What did you say?
- I'll say it again quickly.
806
01:03:29,171 --> 01:03:31,332
Molloy and Sullivan
were killed for that tape...
807
01:03:31,407 --> 01:03:34,934
...and Army Intelligence, Ml5, Ml6,
call it what you want, are involved...
808
01:03:35,011 --> 01:03:38,071
...and I want to know why, Mr. Brodie.
809
01:03:38,414 --> 01:03:40,974
- Then take it up with them.
- You ordered it.
810
01:03:41,050 --> 01:03:43,951
My participation was limited
to policing the operation.
811
01:03:44,020 --> 01:03:46,682
- That will sound wonderful in court.
- What court?
812
01:03:46,822 --> 01:03:49,017
There will be accounting.
Charges will be made.
813
01:03:49,091 --> 01:03:51,218
- By you?
- I'll recommend it in my report.
814
01:03:51,294 --> 01:03:53,660
Which I shall take
to the DPP for him to decide.
815
01:03:53,729 --> 01:03:55,026
- It won't work.
- What won't?
816
01:03:55,097 --> 01:03:57,190
Not at my expense, it won't.
817
01:03:57,433 --> 01:04:01,699
My God, you're catchin' the Irish disease.
You're gettin' paranoid.
818
01:04:02,004 --> 01:04:04,871
If necessary,
I'm prepared to resign over this...
819
01:04:04,941 --> 01:04:07,739
...and start telling tales out of school.
820
01:04:07,810 --> 01:04:11,507
I don't think you will.
You're a career officer like me.
821
01:04:12,615 --> 01:04:15,277
- I mean it.
- You'd resign the force and go public?
822
01:04:15,351 --> 01:04:16,943
If I have to.
823
01:04:17,453 --> 01:04:21,287
Listen, we're both professionals.
We observe certain rules.
824
01:04:21,490 --> 01:04:23,355
Then understand.
825
01:04:23,626 --> 01:04:25,287
Without access to that tape...
826
01:04:25,361 --> 01:04:28,524
...it is impossible for me
to evaluate the evidence.
827
01:04:28,597 --> 01:04:33,296
I'm afraid I can't help you there.
I have neither seen nor heard that tape.
828
01:04:33,436 --> 01:04:37,566
And frankly, I don't want the burden.
Now, if you will excuse me.
829
01:04:41,444 --> 01:04:43,036
Who's Harris?
830
01:04:44,647 --> 01:04:45,978
Harris?
831
01:04:46,449 --> 01:04:48,542
I've never heard of him.
832
01:04:53,222 --> 01:04:56,988
Ms. McKechnie, will you show Mr. Kerrigan
out of my office, please?
833
01:05:12,208 --> 01:05:14,802
I wonder what Harris'
connection with the Provos is?
834
01:05:15,077 --> 01:05:18,046
- Why do you think he has one?
- Why else meet in an IRA club?
835
01:05:18,114 --> 01:05:20,344
- It's a Republican club.
- Same difference.
836
01:05:20,416 --> 01:05:23,112
Not every Republican supports the IRA.
837
01:05:23,352 --> 01:05:26,810
Let's hope you're right.
I could be putting my head in a noose.
838
01:05:26,889 --> 01:05:29,050
I don't think you have to worry.
839
01:05:29,191 --> 01:05:31,955
You can count on the IRA to be predictable.
840
01:05:32,028 --> 01:05:34,496
Yes. They shoot policemen.
841
01:05:53,382 --> 01:05:55,350
Did you lock the door?
842
01:06:19,208 --> 01:06:21,369
- Are you lookin' for someone?
- Teresa Doyle.
843
01:06:21,444 --> 01:06:23,674
- You have to be signed in by a member.
- Pardon?
844
01:06:23,746 --> 01:06:27,842
- You have to be signed in by a member.
- That's why I'm waiting for her to come.
845
01:06:27,917 --> 01:06:32,513
It's okay, Danny. I know these people.
I take full responsibility for them.
846
01:06:32,588 --> 01:06:34,920
Welcome to
the James Connolly Republican Club.
847
01:06:34,990 --> 01:06:38,016
I'm Liam Philbin, Sinn Fein rep for this area
and club secretary.
848
01:06:38,094 --> 01:06:39,322
Ingrid Jessner.
849
01:06:39,395 --> 01:06:40,828
Hello. Peter Kerrigan.
850
01:06:41,664 --> 01:06:43,791
- Got here okay, then?
- Yeah, fine, thanks.
851
01:06:43,866 --> 01:06:46,858
Would you like to buy a football ticket?
Football ticket.
852
01:06:47,169 --> 01:06:48,568
Never misses a trick.
853
01:06:48,637 --> 01:06:51,037
- Fifty pence.
- Four.
854
01:06:51,841 --> 01:06:52,899
Thank you.
855
01:06:54,910 --> 01:06:58,607
Congratulations. You've just contributed
to a fund for Republican prisoners.
856
01:06:58,681 --> 01:06:59,670
Thank you very much.
857
01:06:59,748 --> 01:07:01,909
- Here's a present.
- Down to you.
858
01:07:01,984 --> 01:07:04,452
- Shall we go in?
- Sure. Is Teresa here?
859
01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:07,318
- No, Teresa got lifted on Monday.
- Lifted? What for?
860
01:07:07,389 --> 01:07:09,949
Harassment. Happens all the time.
861
01:07:10,292 --> 01:07:11,782
- Is she all right?
- She's okay.
862
01:07:11,861 --> 01:07:14,523
- And the baby?
- They're being looked after.
863
01:07:14,597 --> 01:07:16,724
"In the Maidstone and the Maze
864
01:07:16,932 --> 01:07:20,891
"I thought about my landthroughout these days
865
01:07:21,670 --> 01:07:24,264
"Why my country was divided
866
01:07:24,540 --> 01:07:26,940
"Why I was now in jail
867
01:07:27,109 --> 01:07:30,840
"Imprisoned without crime or without trial
868
01:07:32,214 --> 01:07:36,947
"And now I love my countryI am not a bitter man
869
01:07:37,186 --> 01:07:41,179
"I've seen cruelty and injustice at first hand
870
01:07:42,925 --> 01:07:47,692
"And then one fateful mornin'I shook bold freedom's hand
871
01:07:48,063 --> 01:07:51,328
"For right or wrong, I tried to free my land
872
01:07:52,801 --> 01:07:57,704
"And you dare call me a terroristwhile you look down your gun
873
01:07:57,907 --> 01:08:01,673
"When I think of all the deedsthat you have done
874
01:08:02,778 --> 01:08:07,579
"You have plundered many nations,divided many lands
875
01:08:07,850 --> 01:08:12,651
"You have terrorized their peopleYou've ruled with an iron hand
876
01:08:12,821 --> 01:08:16,723
"And you've brought this reign of terrorto my land
877
01:08:18,260 --> 01:08:22,959
"And you dare call me a terroristwhile you look down your gun
878
01:08:23,365 --> 01:08:27,233
"When I think of all the deedsthat you have done
879
01:08:28,337 --> 01:08:33,001
"You have plundered many nations,divided many lands
880
01:08:33,175 --> 01:08:38,078
"You have terrorized their peopleYou've ruled with an iron hand
881
01:08:38,247 --> 01:08:42,274
"And you've brought this reign of terrorto my land
882
01:08:43,786 --> 01:08:48,655
"You've brought this reign of terrorto my land"
883
01:08:49,992 --> 01:08:51,459
Thank you.
884
01:08:57,666 --> 01:09:00,260
Jimmy here's gonna do the next one.
885
01:09:02,905 --> 01:09:05,567
On the wall,
you see a picture of James Connolly...
886
01:09:05,641 --> 01:09:07,734
...one of our greatest-ever Irish leaders.
887
01:09:07,843 --> 01:09:11,609
Connolly said, many years ago,
that England has no more moral right...
888
01:09:11,847 --> 01:09:13,644
...to administer Irish affairs...
889
01:09:13,716 --> 01:09:16,708
...than it has to administer the affairs
of America or Japan.
890
01:09:17,052 --> 01:09:21,182
No more moral right to police us
than it has a moral right to shoot us.
891
01:09:21,257 --> 01:09:23,225
That is the answer: British withdrawal.
892
01:09:23,292 --> 01:09:24,725
That's the answer...
893
01:09:25,527 --> 01:09:29,258
...but innocent people have been killed.
894
01:09:29,331 --> 01:09:33,097
Yes, innocent people have been killed
and are being killed.
895
01:09:33,168 --> 01:09:36,035
But if you look at all the colonies,
for instance, America.
896
01:09:36,105 --> 01:09:38,573
George Washington was called a terrorist
in his time.
897
01:09:38,641 --> 01:09:42,771
Jomo Kenyatta was a terrorist.
Archbishop Makarios was a terrorist.
898
01:09:42,845 --> 01:09:46,372
Unfortunately, colonies appear
to have to fight for their freedom.
899
01:09:46,448 --> 01:09:49,212
It is never granted willingly.
They must struggle for it.
900
01:09:49,285 --> 01:09:50,616
Liam...
901
01:09:51,053 --> 01:09:53,851
Do you know why Paul
was with Mr. Molloy that morning?
902
01:09:53,922 --> 01:09:57,380
Yes. Molloy was taking him
to meet Harris, in fact.
903
01:09:57,459 --> 01:09:59,552
- Where?
- At a safe house.
904
01:09:59,928 --> 01:10:01,020
That you provided?
905
01:10:01,096 --> 01:10:04,827
- Yes. Our interests coincided.
- In what way?
906
01:10:05,868 --> 01:10:08,462
Let's just say that our enemies
became his enemies.
907
01:10:08,904 --> 01:10:10,701
Where is he, Liam?
908
01:10:10,939 --> 01:10:15,069
He's out the back here, waitin' for you.
If you like, we'll go now and see him.
909
01:10:15,144 --> 01:10:17,374
- Yes.
- Good, then. Come on.
910
01:10:24,386 --> 01:10:26,513
"Gloucester's crumblingpushed us westward
911
01:10:26,588 --> 01:10:29,921
"To liberate all the IrishSome of us that came to fight
912
01:10:29,992 --> 01:10:32,392
"From Tipperary mountainside"
913
01:10:36,565 --> 01:10:37,998
Here's your visitors now.
914
01:10:39,034 --> 01:10:41,901
- Thank you, Liam.
- Okay. I'll leave you to it.
915
01:10:41,970 --> 01:10:43,198
Thank you.
916
01:10:43,906 --> 01:10:46,033
- Harris?
- Yes.
917
01:10:47,176 --> 01:10:50,737
- How much has Liam told you?
- Only that Molloy brought you here...
918
01:10:50,879 --> 01:10:53,871
...and that you were sheltered by the IRA.
919
01:10:53,949 --> 01:10:57,385
- And you find that reprehensible?
- For Molloy? No.
920
01:10:57,686 --> 01:10:59,483
No. He has his loyalties.
921
01:10:59,555 --> 01:11:03,685
But for you,
an officer serving in the British Army, yes.
922
01:11:09,465 --> 01:11:12,298
I am terribly sorry about what happened.
923
01:11:12,368 --> 01:11:14,632
I really didn't think they'd go that far.
924
01:11:15,537 --> 01:11:17,869
Why did you want to see Paul?
925
01:11:18,173 --> 01:11:21,904
- I gave him a tape. Didn't you know that?
- Not till later.
926
01:11:24,113 --> 01:11:25,808
Coming here could cost me my life.
927
01:11:25,881 --> 01:11:30,045
Mine, too, but unlike you,
I don't have the IRA to protect me.
928
01:11:30,185 --> 01:11:32,380
I gave the IRA nothing.
929
01:11:49,505 --> 01:11:52,633
I was an Army Intelligence officer
co-opted to work with Ml6...
930
01:11:52,708 --> 01:11:54,403
...and Ml5 when they took over.
931
01:11:54,543 --> 01:11:55,908
PSYOPS.
932
01:11:56,378 --> 01:11:59,438
Our cover name was
"Information Policy Unit."
933
01:11:59,948 --> 01:12:03,111
Our official function was
to liaise with the press...
934
01:12:03,185 --> 01:12:06,245
...and prepare public relations programs.
935
01:12:06,922 --> 01:12:08,549
And unofficial?
936
01:12:09,124 --> 01:12:10,955
We had our own printing press.
937
01:12:11,026 --> 01:12:14,621
We'd forge documents
attributed to Republican sources.
938
01:12:14,930 --> 01:12:18,923
We'd provide material for the media:
Newspapers, magazines, television.
939
01:12:19,001 --> 01:12:20,593
- Black propaganda?
- Yes.
940
01:12:20,669 --> 01:12:22,694
What kind of material?
941
01:12:23,505 --> 01:12:25,973
Whatever we thought was necessary.
942
01:12:26,041 --> 01:12:29,408
We'd invent stories, leak truths, leak lies...
943
01:12:29,912 --> 01:12:31,106
...leak half-truths.
944
01:12:31,547 --> 01:12:33,981
Accountable to the politicians.
945
01:12:35,784 --> 01:12:38,412
Let us get one thing straight, Kerrigan.
946
01:12:38,620 --> 01:12:40,781
We were accountable to no one.
947
01:12:40,856 --> 01:12:44,952
The Prime Minister, Parliament, the courts,
the great British public...
948
01:12:45,027 --> 01:12:48,963
It made no difference.
They were all there to be manipulated.
949
01:12:49,131 --> 01:12:53,227
- And that didn't bother you?
- Not against the IRA, it didn't.
950
01:12:54,203 --> 01:12:57,263
But during the election of '74...
951
01:12:58,740 --> 01:13:01,573
...our work became increasingly political.
952
01:13:01,643 --> 01:13:03,702
Ml5 were running things.
953
01:13:03,779 --> 01:13:05,974
Our long-term objectives were abandoned.
954
01:13:06,148 --> 01:13:09,709
The new emphasis was on
assassination teams, bounty hunters.
955
01:13:10,185 --> 01:13:12,779
But the PSYOPS unit continued to operate?
956
01:13:13,021 --> 01:13:15,489
Yes, but with fresh targets.
957
01:13:16,558 --> 01:13:20,494
During the '70s, the Conservative Party
was demoralized and divided.
958
01:13:20,562 --> 01:13:22,587
They saw their party leader,
Edward Heath...
959
01:13:22,664 --> 01:13:26,031
...cave in against the miners' strike of '74
and were searching for...
960
01:13:26,101 --> 01:13:28,763
...a new leader from the hard right.
961
01:13:31,206 --> 01:13:34,437
We circulated stories about his private life.
962
01:13:35,177 --> 01:13:36,235
Heath was dumped.
963
01:13:36,512 --> 01:13:38,639
And replaced by Thatcher.
964
01:13:38,780 --> 01:13:40,839
Yeah, but that wasn't enough.
965
01:13:40,916 --> 01:13:43,578
There was concern
amongst business and the military...
966
01:13:43,652 --> 01:13:46,143
...that Labour were heading for
a third term in office.
967
01:13:46,221 --> 01:13:48,712
The moderates would be replaced
by the left-wingers...
968
01:13:48,790 --> 01:13:52,317
...who, in turn, would be opposed
to NATO and nuclear weapons.
969
01:13:52,394 --> 01:13:56,728
Remember, inflation was running rife,
industry was crippled by strikes.
970
01:13:57,065 --> 01:13:59,260
What is this leading up to?
971
01:13:59,334 --> 01:14:01,063
Treason, Mr. Kerrigan.
972
01:14:02,004 --> 01:14:05,337
Pressure came from the CIA
to get rid of the Labour government.
973
01:14:05,407 --> 01:14:06,465
Jesus.
974
01:14:06,808 --> 01:14:10,039
They fed information to Ml5
that Prime Minister Wilson...
975
01:14:10,112 --> 01:14:12,103
...was a KGB agent.
976
01:14:12,514 --> 01:14:15,278
It was a joint CIA-Ml5 operation...
977
01:14:15,751 --> 01:14:17,776
...supported by others in Whitehall.
978
01:14:18,253 --> 01:14:21,313
Yeah, the whole bag
of dirty tricks was used:
979
01:14:22,224 --> 01:14:26,752
Smears, break-ins, burglaries,
phone-tapping, blackmail, disinformation.
980
01:14:31,166 --> 01:14:34,499
- Lf what you say is true...
- It all landed on my desk.
981
01:14:34,570 --> 01:14:37,664
- And you believed it?
- I did when it was used by Alec Nevin...
982
01:14:38,206 --> 01:14:40,936
...the future Prime Minister's
closest political ally...
983
01:14:41,009 --> 01:14:44,706
...the principal architect
of her victory over Edward Heath.
984
01:14:44,780 --> 01:14:48,079
You're saying that Thatcher
was involved in this?
985
01:14:50,452 --> 01:14:53,444
No, but she was the main beneficiary.
986
01:14:55,557 --> 01:15:00,017
The files and documents I got from Ml5
I turned into articles and essays...
987
01:15:00,095 --> 01:15:02,063
...for selected journalists...
988
01:15:02,331 --> 01:15:04,424
...and speeches for Alec Nevin.
989
01:15:06,835 --> 01:15:10,532
- Why should I believe you?
- Because it's all on the tape.
990
01:15:11,239 --> 01:15:13,707
Why else do you think
they tried to get rid of me?
991
01:15:13,809 --> 01:15:16,300
If this comes out,
with Nevin's explicit connections...
992
01:15:16,378 --> 01:15:19,313
...to the Prime Minister,
the spotlight falls on Number 10.
993
01:15:19,381 --> 01:15:22,612
- That's why his name is on the list.
- What list?
994
01:15:22,985 --> 01:15:25,351
Paul made a list of six names.
995
01:15:28,156 --> 01:15:30,989
- Do you have them with you?
- I took them.
996
01:15:31,059 --> 01:15:33,755
Then I suggest you study that list
very carefully.
997
01:15:33,829 --> 01:15:36,423
- Why?
- Because they are the prime movers...
998
01:15:36,965 --> 01:15:40,731
...Nevin's ideological counterparts
in business, industry, the military.
999
01:15:40,802 --> 01:15:42,770
Together they form the nucleus.
1000
01:15:42,838 --> 01:15:46,774
Their priority was to ruin Labour's chances
of winning another general election...
1001
01:15:46,842 --> 01:15:49,436
...and if necessary,
were prepared to go even further.
1002
01:15:49,511 --> 01:15:52,036
You want wrapping up in a blanket.
1003
01:15:52,114 --> 01:15:55,709
Paul knew this. He heard the tape.
He had the tape.
1004
01:15:55,784 --> 01:15:58,412
- That's why they murdered him.
- I think you're insane.
1005
01:15:58,487 --> 01:15:59,545
I can prove it.
1006
01:15:59,621 --> 01:16:03,148
- Why would he lie?
- I don't know: Guilt, pressure...
1007
01:16:05,093 --> 01:16:06,720
...acute paranoia.
1008
01:16:06,828 --> 01:16:08,989
- I'm as sane as you are.
- And I believe him.
1009
01:16:09,064 --> 01:16:11,055
It couldn't happen.
1010
01:16:11,133 --> 01:16:12,464
It did.
1011
01:16:24,513 --> 01:16:26,504
Why didn't you resign?
1012
01:16:30,485 --> 01:16:32,510
I was a career officer.
1013
01:16:33,722 --> 01:16:36,657
One hoped
that the situation would change.
1014
01:16:37,793 --> 01:16:40,728
But I also saw what happened
to people in a similar position.
1015
01:16:41,196 --> 01:16:42,925
Good men ruined.
1016
01:16:43,065 --> 01:16:44,692
So you went along with it?
1017
01:16:45,267 --> 01:16:46,427
No.
1018
01:16:47,035 --> 01:16:51,233
I asked questions about it.
At first, they were very understanding.
1019
01:16:51,440 --> 01:16:55,240
They said I was suffering from stress,
mental fatigue, physical exhaustion.
1020
01:16:55,310 --> 01:16:57,540
That I needed a break
from Northern Ireland.
1021
01:16:57,612 --> 01:16:59,443
So they sent me to the mainland...
1022
01:16:59,514 --> 01:17:02,847
...as an instructor
to the School of Intelligence.
1023
01:17:05,620 --> 01:17:08,214
In late '77, I was posted back here.
1024
01:17:10,125 --> 01:17:14,061
- How did they find out about this tape?
- Because I behaved stupidly.
1025
01:17:14,396 --> 01:17:17,456
Instead of keeping my head down,
I had a row about it all.
1026
01:17:17,532 --> 01:17:20,023
Consequently,
I was put under close surveillance.
1027
01:17:20,102 --> 01:17:22,764
Mail was opened, phones were tapped.
1028
01:17:22,838 --> 01:17:25,671
They searched my room
and found a backup copy of the tape...
1029
01:17:25,741 --> 01:17:27,709
...stitched in the lining of my beret.
1030
01:17:27,876 --> 01:17:30,606
So I took the original tape and ran.
1031
01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:33,211
Still running.
1032
01:17:35,016 --> 01:17:37,246
You say you have this tape?
1033
01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:43,155
It's all there: Names, dates.
I bugged their meetings.
1034
01:17:43,425 --> 01:17:45,325
I wanted Sullivan to publicize it.
1035
01:17:45,393 --> 01:17:47,884
Being an American citizen
and a civil rights lawyer...
1036
01:17:47,963 --> 01:17:49,453
...I thought he was beyond reach.
1037
01:17:49,531 --> 01:17:51,192
You were wrong.
1038
01:17:53,535 --> 01:17:57,198
I'm afraid media exposure
is the only protection I have.
1039
01:17:57,272 --> 01:17:58,796
Do you have it with you?
1040
01:18:01,276 --> 01:18:03,301
I have certain demands.
1041
01:18:03,678 --> 01:18:04,702
What demands?
1042
01:18:04,780 --> 01:18:07,908
When I deliver the tape,
I want to be taken into protective custody.
1043
01:18:07,983 --> 01:18:10,850
And I want you, Ms. Jessner,
to make it public.
1044
01:18:10,919 --> 01:18:13,012
- Agreed.
- I can't do that.
1045
01:18:13,088 --> 01:18:14,453
Why not?
1046
01:18:15,257 --> 01:18:19,193
Because he's not under my authority.
He's military personnel.
1047
01:18:19,361 --> 01:18:23,195
You were brought here
to investigate Paul Sullivan's death.
1048
01:18:23,265 --> 01:18:25,995
He was murdered because of that tape.
1049
01:18:28,136 --> 01:18:31,105
- Where is it?
- Do I have your agreement?
1050
01:18:34,342 --> 01:18:35,536
Yes.
1051
01:18:39,047 --> 01:18:40,378
Dublin.
1052
01:18:40,749 --> 01:18:42,740
The IRA found me a safe house.
1053
01:18:42,818 --> 01:18:45,286
They're hoping I'll come
to a prearranged meeting...
1054
01:18:45,353 --> 01:18:47,218
...and denounce British imperialism.
1055
01:18:47,289 --> 01:18:49,757
- When can we have it?
- You'll have to come to Dublin.
1056
01:18:49,825 --> 01:18:51,759
- When?
- Day after tomorrow.
1057
01:18:51,827 --> 01:18:53,089
Where?
1058
01:18:55,096 --> 01:18:58,065
- O'Connell Bridge, 11:00 a.m.
- We'll be there.
1059
01:19:02,237 --> 01:19:03,864
One last thing.
1060
01:19:04,573 --> 01:19:06,336
Nevin has a man working for him.
1061
01:19:06,474 --> 01:19:09,671
His name is McKee,
a former member of the SAS.
1062
01:19:10,779 --> 01:19:13,612
- Look out for him.
- What's he look like?
1063
01:19:14,549 --> 01:19:17,712
Big man, tall, bland face, thinning hair.
1064
01:19:18,820 --> 01:19:21,755
He's quite ruthless, capable of anything.
1065
01:19:39,341 --> 01:19:42,868
Am I wrong, Mr. Kerrigan,
or is it illegal to kill people...
1066
01:19:42,944 --> 01:19:44,536
...and try to steal a country?
1067
01:19:44,613 --> 01:19:48,413
Don't assume it happened
just because Harris said it did.
1068
01:19:48,750 --> 01:19:51,810
Paul's dead! Molloy's dead!
That happened.
1069
01:19:51,887 --> 01:19:54,913
Save your outrage
till we've heard the tape.
1070
01:19:59,594 --> 01:20:01,858
- Good evening, love.
- Good evening, sir.
1071
01:20:01,930 --> 01:20:02,919
Thank you.
1072
01:20:03,465 --> 01:20:06,593
- Have you seen Mr. Maxwell?
- He's in the bar, sir.
1073
01:20:16,278 --> 01:20:19,372
- How'd it go?
- It was interesting.
1074
01:20:19,881 --> 01:20:21,314
Did you see Harris?
1075
01:20:21,383 --> 01:20:23,510
Yes. He didn't have the tape.
1076
01:20:24,085 --> 01:20:26,315
You've had a call from Ml5.
1077
01:20:26,588 --> 01:20:28,556
The spook department?
1078
01:20:29,424 --> 01:20:31,654
- Who?
- Sir Robert Neil.
1079
01:20:31,893 --> 01:20:36,159
He wants to meet you for lunch tomorrow.
He's sending his car at 12:00.
1080
01:20:39,301 --> 01:20:42,202
- Time for a drink?
- No. I've had enough.
1081
01:20:43,071 --> 01:20:45,005
You two okay?
1082
01:20:46,107 --> 01:20:48,769
- Yes, thank you, Mr. Kerrigan.
- Fine.
1083
01:20:49,844 --> 01:20:52,779
- Mind how you go.
- See you in the morning.
1084
01:21:20,108 --> 01:21:23,077
- Good morning, Mr. Kerrigan.
- Good morning.
1085
01:21:28,016 --> 01:21:29,711
- Come in, Mr. Kerrigan.
- Sir Robert.
1086
01:21:29,784 --> 01:21:31,911
Marvelous day. This way.
1087
01:21:39,194 --> 01:21:40,525
Do you know Alec Nevin?
1088
01:21:41,396 --> 01:21:43,887
No, I don't believe we've met.
1089
01:21:43,965 --> 01:21:46,832
I'm delighted to meet you.
I've heard a great deal about you.
1090
01:21:46,901 --> 01:21:48,528
How do you do?
1091
01:21:48,770 --> 01:21:51,796
- Sherry?
- No, thank you.
1092
01:22:08,890 --> 01:22:11,450
You've got your coffee, have you?
1093
01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:16,888
So, Mr. Kerrigan,
how has your inquiry progressed?
1094
01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:21,530
Sullivan and Molloy were killed
because of a tape.
1095
01:22:21,603 --> 01:22:23,093
What tape?
1096
01:22:23,571 --> 01:22:25,038
According to a Capt. Harris...
1097
01:22:25,106 --> 01:22:27,131
- You've met him?
- Last night.
1098
01:22:27,208 --> 01:22:28,607
Go on.
1099
01:22:29,878 --> 01:22:33,006
- Your name surfaced, Mr. Nevin.
- Really?
1100
01:22:35,150 --> 01:22:38,779
He claims that he possesses a tape
which will prove that you and others...
1101
01:22:38,853 --> 01:22:42,414
...conspired to destabilize
the last Labour government.
1102
01:22:43,858 --> 01:22:46,691
He says he gave a copy of this tape
to Paul Sullivan...
1103
01:22:46,761 --> 01:22:49,992
...hoping he would publicize it,
and that's why Sullivan was killed.
1104
01:22:50,398 --> 01:22:55,062
- You've not heard the tape then?
- Not yet, but I will.
1105
01:22:55,703 --> 01:22:58,900
- You're seeing Harris again?
- I can't tell you.
1106
01:23:00,442 --> 01:23:03,411
Although he was strictly Army,
Harris worked for me.
1107
01:23:03,478 --> 01:23:05,503
Yes, I know.
1108
01:23:07,382 --> 01:23:11,546
- He was rather good at what he did.
- He was a traitorous bastard.
1109
01:23:11,719 --> 01:23:13,619
When I arrived just now...
1110
01:23:13,688 --> 01:23:17,556
...there was a man who greeted me
at the car: Tall, thinning hair.
1111
01:23:17,625 --> 01:23:20,492
- What about him?
- I might want to question him.
1112
01:23:20,595 --> 01:23:23,325
After the tape was taken
from Sullivan's body...
1113
01:23:23,398 --> 01:23:26,299
...the police gave it to someone
answering his description.
1114
01:23:26,367 --> 01:23:30,326
I have four witnesses to identify him.
Did he give the tape to you?
1115
01:23:30,405 --> 01:23:33,806
- Are you interrogating me?
- Are you obstructing me?
1116
01:23:36,144 --> 01:23:40,740
If you let me listen to that tape,
I can eliminate Harris from my inquiry.
1117
01:23:41,649 --> 01:23:43,276
You have no choice, Alec.
1118
01:23:44,285 --> 01:23:47,516
Do you remember the
disorders of the 1970s...
1119
01:23:48,223 --> 01:23:49,656
...Mr. Kerrigan?
1120
01:23:49,724 --> 01:23:51,954
The kind of chaos we faced...
1121
01:23:52,327 --> 01:23:54,488
...strikes, riots...
1122
01:23:55,296 --> 01:23:58,527
...miners bringing down
a Conservative government...
1123
01:23:58,633 --> 01:24:02,865
...inflation going through the roof,
our European creditors...
1124
01:24:02,937 --> 01:24:04,700
...queuing up to pounce on us?
1125
01:24:05,140 --> 01:24:08,041
How Europe enjoyed our discomfiture.
1126
01:24:09,878 --> 01:24:12,540
Instead of just letting it happen...
1127
01:24:13,815 --> 01:24:17,307
...a few of us got together
to do something about it.
1128
01:24:17,585 --> 01:24:20,383
So there was a conspiracy.
1129
01:24:20,989 --> 01:24:25,619
- My dear chap, politics is a conspiracy.
- The point is, our paths converge.
1130
01:24:25,693 --> 01:24:28,389
- In what way?
- We both serve the state.
1131
01:24:28,463 --> 01:24:31,159
No, I defend the state.
1132
01:24:31,866 --> 01:24:33,561
You subvert it.
1133
01:24:33,635 --> 01:24:36,695
All right, let's be frank with one another.
1134
01:24:37,338 --> 01:24:42,037
Illegal methods were used in an attempt
to bring down the Labour government.
1135
01:24:42,177 --> 01:24:44,441
But that's all in the past.
1136
01:24:44,579 --> 01:24:47,639
Do you think by scrutinizing
mistakes made...
1137
01:24:47,715 --> 01:24:51,014
...you'll help restore
respect for law and order?
1138
01:24:52,720 --> 01:24:55,655
Don't play hide and seek
with reality, Mr. Kerrigan.
1139
01:24:56,357 --> 01:24:59,986
If you want to see the release of that tape,
and its contents made public...
1140
01:25:00,261 --> 01:25:01,751
...go right ahead.
1141
01:25:01,829 --> 01:25:04,059
But first, consider the consequences.
1142
01:25:04,566 --> 01:25:07,296
Every agitator, every intellectual...
1143
01:25:07,368 --> 01:25:10,769
...every bleeding-heart liberal
with his rhetoric about civil rights...
1144
01:25:10,838 --> 01:25:12,567
...will seize on it.
1145
01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:15,234
Now, you say you defend the state.
1146
01:25:15,910 --> 01:25:16,968
So do I.
1147
01:25:17,579 --> 01:25:20,912
But Parliament and its institutions
are the state.
1148
01:25:21,082 --> 01:25:23,949
And anything that threatens
the government...
1149
01:25:24,319 --> 01:25:27,755
...the rule of law,
the credibility of Parliament...
1150
01:25:28,022 --> 01:25:30,286
...is a threat to the state.
1151
01:25:30,992 --> 01:25:33,426
Leave well alone, Mr. Kerrigan.
1152
01:25:33,561 --> 01:25:36,860
Let the historians discover it
in 50 years' time.
1153
01:25:38,233 --> 01:25:41,566
- Our duty is to protect Number 10.
- It wouldn't be published anyway.
1154
01:25:41,636 --> 01:25:44,503
Strictly speaking, it's none of your concern.
1155
01:25:44,572 --> 01:25:47,063
It's an intelligence matter,
outside your jurisdiction.
1156
01:25:47,141 --> 01:25:49,234
- I don't accept that.
- Accept this...
1157
01:25:49,310 --> 01:25:52,802
What Alec and the others did
eight years ago was terribly wrong.
1158
01:25:52,880 --> 01:25:56,111
It wasn't just terribly wrong.
It was criminal.
1159
01:25:56,184 --> 01:25:58,744
It was wrong for the right reasons.
1160
01:25:58,820 --> 01:26:02,221
These were, and still are, honorable men.
1161
01:26:02,290 --> 01:26:05,259
- They broke the law.
- We've agreed on that.
1162
01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:08,456
But tell me, as a professional policeman...
1163
01:26:08,529 --> 01:26:12,693
...don't you find that hardened criminals
often benefit from the restraints...
1164
01:26:12,767 --> 01:26:15,395
...imposed on the police by the courts?
1165
01:26:15,470 --> 01:26:16,801
Absolutely, yes.
1166
01:26:16,871 --> 01:26:21,672
And when, to secure a conviction,
the police remove those constraints...
1167
01:26:22,076 --> 01:26:25,341
...when, for example,
they illegally tap a phone...
1168
01:26:25,413 --> 01:26:29,975
...to apprehend political terrorists
whose aim is to overthrow democracy...
1169
01:26:31,085 --> 01:26:33,110
...is this ever justified?
1170
01:26:33,788 --> 01:26:35,779
It depends on the circumstances.
1171
01:26:36,224 --> 01:26:38,317
Let's be more specific.
1172
01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:41,888
In 1974,
the IRA blew up a Birmingham pub.
1173
01:26:42,497 --> 01:26:46,263
21 young people were killed.
162 were injured.
1174
01:26:47,235 --> 01:26:51,695
The police, your colleagues,
arrested six Irishmen.
1175
01:26:52,974 --> 01:26:56,102
They were subjected to
what is euphemistically referred to...
1176
01:26:56,177 --> 01:26:57,974
...as "in-depth interrogation."
1177
01:26:58,413 --> 01:27:00,711
They kicked the hell out of
the murdering swine.
1178
01:27:00,782 --> 01:27:04,218
- And obtained a confession.
- Which held up in court.
1179
01:27:04,719 --> 01:27:06,550
Was that justified?
1180
01:27:06,821 --> 01:27:09,585
If they did that,
then they were out of order.
1181
01:27:09,657 --> 01:27:11,522
Tell that to the people of Birmingham.
1182
01:27:11,592 --> 01:27:13,457
The point I'm trying to make...
1183
01:27:13,528 --> 01:27:16,895
I understand the point
you're trying to make, Sir Robert.
1184
01:27:16,964 --> 01:27:20,730
That to maintain the system, the abuse
of power is sometimes necessary.
1185
01:27:20,868 --> 01:27:22,062
Yes.
1186
01:27:22,503 --> 01:27:26,439
It allows us to enjoy the freedom
of living in a free society.
1187
01:27:27,508 --> 01:27:30,341
A price the public are prepared to pay.
1188
01:27:30,912 --> 01:27:33,142
That's a dangerous concept.
1189
01:27:33,348 --> 01:27:35,316
But a realistic one.
1190
01:27:38,386 --> 01:27:40,650
You're forgetting one thing.
1191
01:27:40,722 --> 01:27:43,213
What's to stop Harris
from making copies of the tape?
1192
01:27:43,291 --> 01:27:48,024
Nothing at all, except without Harris,
there's no authenticity, no documentation.
1193
01:27:48,096 --> 01:27:51,156
Everyone would think it was an IRA fake.
1194
01:27:52,934 --> 01:27:54,595
And my investigation?
1195
01:27:55,570 --> 01:27:59,233
I have a solution
that is both effective and acceptable.
1196
01:27:59,674 --> 01:28:02,734
You have the culprits that did the shooting.
1197
01:28:03,411 --> 01:28:04,878
Nail them.
1198
01:28:13,554 --> 01:28:15,818
It really is a gorgeous day.
1199
01:28:16,624 --> 01:28:20,458
You know, Ireland would be a lovely place
if it wasn't for the Irish.
1200
01:28:24,599 --> 01:28:27,500
Was Ms. Jessner with you
when you met Harris?
1201
01:28:27,735 --> 01:28:28,793
Yes.
1202
01:28:29,337 --> 01:28:32,238
I wonder why Harris chose Paul Sullivan.
1203
01:28:34,876 --> 01:28:38,277
Did you know, before she met him,
she lived with a Communist?
1204
01:28:38,346 --> 01:28:40,974
- No, I didn't.
- It was all rather sad.
1205
01:28:41,048 --> 01:28:43,539
A Chilean. She had an abortion.
1206
01:28:46,554 --> 01:28:49,318
There is something I want to show you.
1207
01:28:54,595 --> 01:28:56,961
Not very pleasant, I'm afraid.
1208
01:29:02,670 --> 01:29:06,367
Liam Philbin.
Served seven years in H-Block.
1209
01:29:06,841 --> 01:29:09,366
Suspected of murdering two policemen.
1210
01:29:10,445 --> 01:29:13,608
That's you making a contribution
to IRA funds...
1211
01:29:13,681 --> 01:29:15,876
...unintentionally, of course.
1212
01:29:18,319 --> 01:29:20,583
These make my stomach turn.
1213
01:29:23,991 --> 01:29:27,552
Alec wanted to turn them over
to his newspaper friends.
1214
01:29:27,662 --> 01:29:29,755
I persuaded him not to.
1215
01:29:30,264 --> 01:29:33,290
Apart from the damage
it could do to your career...
1216
01:29:34,368 --> 01:29:37,132
I'm a family man myself, Mr. Kerrigan.
1217
01:29:37,839 --> 01:29:41,798
I know the harm this sort of thing
can do to a happy marriage.
1218
01:29:42,810 --> 01:29:44,277
Take them.
1219
01:29:44,779 --> 01:29:46,178
Who keeps the negatives?
1220
01:29:47,248 --> 01:29:49,011
Alec keeps them.
1221
01:29:52,353 --> 01:29:53,752
Fuck you.
1222
01:29:57,225 --> 01:29:59,716
First, they threw the book at me.
1223
01:30:00,127 --> 01:30:01,924
Not in the national interest.
1224
01:30:01,996 --> 01:30:03,657
Violation of security.
1225
01:30:04,065 --> 01:30:05,259
Then...
1226
01:30:07,268 --> 01:30:10,601
...this infantile, laughable comic-book stuff.
1227
01:30:13,040 --> 01:30:15,440
Don't underestimate it, Peter.
1228
01:30:17,111 --> 01:30:21,514
I've been a policeman for 26 years.
I've never met anything like this.
1229
01:30:25,086 --> 01:30:27,782
If you go to Dublin, see him, get the tape.
1230
01:30:27,855 --> 01:30:30,323
Neil would argue
it was used for intelligence...
1231
01:30:30,391 --> 01:30:34,157
...and that it couldn't be admitted
in court as evidence.
1232
01:30:35,696 --> 01:30:37,857
So what are we left with?
1233
01:30:37,932 --> 01:30:38,990
The shooting.
1234
01:30:39,066 --> 01:30:41,193
Which is flameproof.
We have the statements...
1235
01:30:41,269 --> 01:30:43,499
Which we can make stick...
1236
01:30:44,205 --> 01:30:47,106
...provided we make
no references to the tape.
1237
01:30:47,174 --> 01:30:49,404
Concession offered by Neil.
1238
01:30:53,781 --> 01:30:55,078
Jesus.
1239
01:30:56,484 --> 01:30:58,509
What does that make me?
1240
01:31:00,688 --> 01:31:03,680
I came here as the cop
that couldn't be bought.
1241
01:31:03,758 --> 01:31:07,455
- Nobody bought you.
- I've been manipulated from day one...
1242
01:31:08,396 --> 01:31:10,489
...put through the hoop.
1243
01:31:16,704 --> 01:31:20,663
What happens
if I choose to take this to the limit...
1244
01:31:23,277 --> 01:31:25,268
...to the powers that be?
1245
01:31:26,547 --> 01:31:28,674
What support would I get?
1246
01:31:30,151 --> 01:31:31,618
Too risky.
1247
01:31:32,320 --> 01:31:35,517
You blow the whistle,
when the shouting stopped...
1248
01:31:35,590 --> 01:31:38,115
...they reach an accommodation...
1249
01:31:38,225 --> 01:31:40,090
...you're finished.
1250
01:31:41,829 --> 01:31:44,354
You know, Tom, I think I am naive.
1251
01:31:45,032 --> 01:31:46,021
I've always believed...
1252
01:31:46,100 --> 01:31:49,001
...that given half a chance,
the system would work.
1253
01:31:49,070 --> 01:31:51,800
Look, we've got the men
who did the shooting.
1254
01:31:51,872 --> 01:31:54,432
- Everything I've stood for...
- Our job's done.
1255
01:31:54,542 --> 01:31:55,702
No.
1256
01:31:56,744 --> 01:31:58,609
That's unacceptable.
1257
01:32:00,381 --> 01:32:03,748
I walk away from this,
it's a lifetime wasted.
1258
01:32:06,187 --> 01:32:07,552
They want this thing buried...
1259
01:32:07,622 --> 01:32:10,182
...and if necessary,
they will bury you alongside it.
1260
01:32:10,257 --> 01:32:13,385
- But there was a conspiracy.
- What proof have we got?
1261
01:32:13,461 --> 01:32:15,986
- Neil admitted it.
- He'll deny it.
1262
01:32:16,530 --> 01:32:19,363
That conversation never took place.
1263
01:32:22,770 --> 01:32:25,102
Turn your back on this, Peter.
1264
01:32:29,744 --> 01:32:32,679
What about Ingrid Jessner?
What about her?
1265
01:32:32,847 --> 01:32:34,610
Not your problem.
1266
01:32:35,349 --> 01:32:39,115
This is all politics.
We have the men that did the shooting.
1267
01:32:39,186 --> 01:32:41,450
Are you willing to settle for that?
1268
01:32:41,522 --> 01:32:43,387
What else is there?
1269
01:32:44,125 --> 01:32:45,558
And if I persist?
1270
01:32:46,661 --> 01:32:49,323
Then you're on a hiding to nothing.
1271
01:32:50,765 --> 01:32:52,426
What about you?
1272
01:32:53,634 --> 01:32:56,228
- I'm a career policeman.
- So was I.
1273
01:33:00,841 --> 01:33:02,638
I'm sorry, Peter.
1274
01:33:02,910 --> 01:33:06,141
I'm not prepared to risk my future,
not in this.
1275
01:33:10,584 --> 01:33:12,108
Thanks, Tom.
1276
01:33:13,387 --> 01:33:15,651
You've just proved my point.
1277
01:34:17,618 --> 01:34:20,610
Listen, if a Mr. Kerrigan calls,
will you tell him I've left?
1278
01:34:20,688 --> 01:34:22,781
- Yes, certainly.
- Thanks.
1279
01:34:23,190 --> 01:34:25,988
Ms. Jessner? I'm Mr. Kerrigan's secretary.
1280
01:34:26,060 --> 01:34:28,392
He asked me to give you that.
1281
01:34:43,210 --> 01:34:44,734
Any message?
1282
01:34:45,279 --> 01:34:48,339
- When's his flight?
- Mid-afternoon, I expect.
1283
01:34:50,017 --> 01:34:51,348
Thanks.
1284
01:35:07,802 --> 01:35:09,667
Echo 1 to Control.
1285
01:35:10,037 --> 01:35:13,234
- Go ahead, Echo 1.
- We're on the Dublin Road.
1286
01:35:14,675 --> 01:35:16,768
Are the others in place?
1287
01:35:18,145 --> 01:35:19,339
Yes.
1288
01:35:19,914 --> 01:35:21,905
Signing off now, Control.
1289
01:35:22,783 --> 01:35:25,684
Give it another minute,
then overtake her quite quickly.
1290
01:35:25,753 --> 01:35:27,983
I want to get ahead of her.
1291
01:35:41,669 --> 01:35:43,227
Come in, Echo 2.
1292
01:35:43,604 --> 01:35:44,764
Echo 2.
1293
01:35:45,472 --> 01:35:49,909
- Is everything all right, Echo 2?
- Yes, she's about 200 yards in front of me.
1294
01:35:49,977 --> 01:35:52,946
In a little while you'll seea petrol station on your left.
1295
01:35:53,013 --> 01:35:55,948
You pull in, and I'll take up the follow.
1296
01:36:45,499 --> 01:36:46,989
Echo 2...
1297
01:36:47,701 --> 01:36:49,259
...she's making for the bridge.
1298
01:36:49,336 --> 01:36:51,361
I'm having trouble gettin' through this lot.
1299
01:36:51,438 --> 01:36:52,928
Bang your fucking horn, man!
1300
01:37:17,331 --> 01:37:19,026
- Where's Kerrigan?
- I don't know.
1301
01:37:19,099 --> 01:37:21,693
- That's no answer.
- I know, I don't know where he is.
1302
01:37:21,769 --> 01:37:23,259
Let's walk.
1303
01:37:26,273 --> 01:37:29,265
- You'll see that it's published?
- I'll try.
1304
01:37:31,946 --> 01:37:33,743
Don't let me down.
1305
01:37:34,515 --> 01:37:35,914
Trust me.
1306
01:37:36,183 --> 01:37:37,172
I do.
1307
01:38:24,231 --> 01:38:25,858
Where to, love?
1308
01:38:27,601 --> 01:38:30,297
- I have to hire a car.
- You want a car-hire place?
1309
01:38:30,371 --> 01:38:32,703
- Yeah.
- Which one in particular do you want?
1310
01:38:32,773 --> 01:38:35,867
- Any one in particular?
- No. It doesn't matter. You decide.
1311
01:38:35,943 --> 01:38:39,470
Do you want an expensive car
or a cheap car?
1312
01:38:39,546 --> 01:38:41,036
It doesn't matter. I don't care.
1313
01:38:41,115 --> 01:38:44,448
Look, I've had Americans before.
I just want to know what type car...
1314
01:38:44,518 --> 01:38:45,576
Just go.
1315
01:38:46,320 --> 01:38:47,651
It doesn't matter! Just go!
1316
01:38:47,721 --> 01:38:50,451
Okay. There's a friend of mine
over at one place.
1317
01:38:50,524 --> 01:38:52,788
- Fine.
- I'll bring you there, will I?
1318
01:38:52,860 --> 01:38:53,986
Fine. Great.
1319
01:39:06,006 --> 01:39:08,668
What you will hear on this tapeis a conversation...
1320
01:39:08,742 --> 01:39:11,233
... which took place at the homeof Mr. Alec Nevin.
1321
01:39:11,311 --> 01:39:14,041
Its purpose was to establisha Conservative government...
1322
01:39:14,114 --> 01:39:17,379
... with a right-wing leadership.I had shown support...
1323
01:39:17,451 --> 01:39:19,919
... and therefore was invitedto attend the meeting.
1324
01:39:20,120 --> 01:39:23,146
I wore a recording deviceactivated by voice.
1325
01:39:25,225 --> 01:39:28,683
Letting people off the leash a bit,in that direction...
1326
01:39:29,363 --> 01:39:33,060
... the military and our friendsin the intelligence community...
1327
01:39:33,133 --> 01:39:37,433
... is really enhancing the casefor quite dramatic...
1328
01:39:37,504 --> 01:39:40,701
... constitutional resolution of this crisis...
1329
01:39:40,774 --> 01:39:42,969
Indeed.Don't underestimate the flexibility...
1330
01:39:43,043 --> 01:39:46,945
We need to pressure the Palace intogiving legitimacy to what we need to do.
1331
01:39:47,014 --> 01:39:49,744
Indeed. You underestimate,we all underestimate...
1332
01:39:49,817 --> 01:39:54,277
... the flexibility of this constitution of ours.We can do almost anything.
1333
01:39:54,621 --> 01:39:57,249
What are his weaknesses?
1334
01:39:57,925 --> 01:40:00,223
What can we have circulated?
1335
01:40:01,328 --> 01:40:04,525
And what rumors can we make stick?
1336
01:40:04,832 --> 01:40:08,791
We all know about Heath.We all know what we think about him.
1337
01:40:08,869 --> 01:40:12,805
We should look to 5 to...
1338
01:40:13,607 --> 01:40:15,040
... assist in this matter.
1339
01:40:16,076 --> 01:40:19,102
Can you try
Ms. Jessner's room again, please?
1340
01:40:23,317 --> 01:40:25,182
Have you paged her?
1341
01:40:27,054 --> 01:40:29,454
No. No message. Thanks.
1342
01:40:30,824 --> 01:40:33,691
- I don't suppose we'll be needing this?
- What's that?
1343
01:40:33,861 --> 01:40:37,353
It's the dossier you asked me to prepare
on those six names.
1344
01:40:37,431 --> 01:40:38,762
Thanks.
1345
01:40:40,334 --> 01:40:41,801
Insurance.
1346
01:40:42,169 --> 01:40:46,071
- Shall I take the luggage down now, sir?
- Please do.
1347
01:41:00,921 --> 01:41:02,821
It isn't your fault.
1348
01:41:05,492 --> 01:41:07,687
They must have followed her.
1349
01:41:09,363 --> 01:41:12,332
I'll pick up the rest of this stuff later.
1350
01:41:14,001 --> 01:41:17,129
- You know about Harris?
- I heard on the radio.
1351
01:41:17,738 --> 01:41:20,400
They kneecapped him,
then they blew half his head away.
1352
01:41:20,474 --> 01:41:22,203
Typical IRA execution.
1353
01:41:28,248 --> 01:41:30,341
- What about Ingrid Jessner?
- What about her?
1354
01:41:30,417 --> 01:41:32,510
- You know, if this thing leaks out...
- It won't.
1355
01:41:32,586 --> 01:41:34,486
A crime has been committed.
1356
01:41:35,489 --> 01:41:38,322
- What crime is that?
- I'm not just talkin' about Harris.
1357
01:41:38,392 --> 01:41:40,860
Everything is covered
by the Official Secrets Act.
1358
01:41:41,028 --> 01:41:45,590
- God, you people live in the Dark Ages.
- And what about you? Listen...
1359
01:41:45,966 --> 01:41:48,434
You and I are cut from the same cloth.
1360
01:41:48,502 --> 01:41:50,834
I am what I have to be, but you?
1361
01:41:51,104 --> 01:41:55,040
You're no better.
Like me, you observe rule Number 1.
1362
01:41:55,108 --> 01:41:57,133
Keep your balls intact.
1363
01:41:57,878 --> 01:42:01,712
Have a good flight.
And don't forget to send me that report.
1364
01:42:01,949 --> 01:42:03,416
Okey-doke?
1365
01:42:04,918 --> 01:42:07,978
We need to getsome agent provocateurs into these...
1366
01:42:08,055 --> 01:42:11,582
... strikes that are taking place,local government strikes...
1367
01:42:11,658 --> 01:42:13,956
... to cause a lot ofunpleasantness and disruption.
1368
01:42:14,027 --> 01:42:17,258
We need that to run throughuntil the election and give it a shot.
1369
01:42:17,798 --> 01:42:20,665
The question is,can we rely upon democracy?
1370
01:42:21,034 --> 01:42:23,935
- Just my opinion, but...- With a little push here and there.
1371
01:42:24,004 --> 01:42:27,235
Well, I agree with the little push.
1372
01:42:27,307 --> 01:42:30,765
I agree that is the point, in a way,why we're here, isn't it?
1373
01:42:30,844 --> 01:42:35,372
If there's a run on the pound, that's fine.If there's a lot of stuff circulating about...
1374
01:42:35,449 --> 01:42:39,180
... Wilson and Moscow,which we all know to be the case...
1375
01:42:39,253 --> 01:42:42,120
... I think Wilson's somebodywe should home in very much on.
1376
01:42:42,189 --> 01:42:44,817
A lot of stuff should becirculated about Wilson.
1377
01:42:51,598 --> 01:42:53,122
Ms. Jessner.
1378
01:42:54,635 --> 01:42:56,500
She hasn't seen us.
1379
01:42:58,438 --> 01:42:59,871
Wait here.
1380
01:43:03,543 --> 01:43:04,567
What are you doing here?
1381
01:43:04,645 --> 01:43:06,203
- Where were you?
- Did you get my note?
1382
01:43:06,280 --> 01:43:08,612
- Why did you change your mind?
- There are reasons.
1383
01:43:08,682 --> 01:43:11,617
- Tell me.
- I don't have to. I'm sorry.
1384
01:43:13,353 --> 01:43:15,321
What about Mr. Nevin?
1385
01:43:15,522 --> 01:43:16,921
What about Harris?
1386
01:43:16,990 --> 01:43:18,651
Harris is dead.
1387
01:43:18,992 --> 01:43:20,721
They're blaming the IRA.
1388
01:43:20,794 --> 01:43:22,591
- But it was them!
- Please.
1389
01:43:22,663 --> 01:43:25,894
- I saw it happen!
- Please, keep your voice down.
1390
01:43:28,035 --> 01:43:30,435
- I told you not to go.
- You told me a lot of things...
1391
01:43:30,504 --> 01:43:32,938
- Did you speak to Harris?
- Yes.
1392
01:43:33,507 --> 01:43:36,943
- Did you tell them we were meeting?
- Of course not. You were followed!
1393
01:43:37,177 --> 01:43:39,702
But you did talk to them. Why?
1394
01:43:40,080 --> 01:43:42,708
- Did he give you the tape?
- You're not gonna...
1395
01:43:42,783 --> 01:43:46,275
- Are you going to do anything about this?
- There's nothing I can do.
1396
01:43:46,353 --> 01:43:48,344
They've committed murder and treason.
1397
01:43:48,422 --> 01:43:50,947
At 11:00 this morning,
a man was assassinated...
1398
01:43:51,024 --> 01:43:54,323
...by orders of British Intelligence,
and you can do nothing!
1399
01:43:54,428 --> 01:43:55,452
I wish I could.
1400
01:43:56,029 --> 01:44:00,329
This is a final call for flight BTH-9to London, Heathrow.
1401
01:44:00,400 --> 01:44:02,095
You have connections I don't have.
1402
01:44:02,169 --> 01:44:04,967
Your reputation brought you here.
People will listen to you.
1403
01:44:05,038 --> 01:44:07,768
With you as my witness?
A civil-liberties group member...
1404
01:44:07,841 --> 01:44:10,901
...accusing the British government
of torture and shoot-to-kill?
1405
01:44:10,977 --> 01:44:15,778
"I don't care whose toes I tread on."
That's what you said, and I believed it.
1406
01:44:16,483 --> 01:44:19,179
- Look, I have to go.
- Go.
1407
01:44:19,252 --> 01:44:21,152
- I'm a policeman.
- Yes, you are.
1408
01:44:21,421 --> 01:44:23,912
The men responsible for Paul's death
will be charged.
1409
01:44:23,990 --> 01:44:28,154
- To know and do nothing, close your eyes.
- You can't win against these people.
1410
01:44:28,228 --> 01:44:30,162
Forget it. Go home.
1411
01:44:30,230 --> 01:44:32,357
That's how fascism starts.
1412
01:44:33,400 --> 01:44:35,960
What do you think
of your fine British law now?
1413
01:44:36,036 --> 01:44:37,469
This has nothing to do with law.
1414
01:44:37,537 --> 01:44:40,062
- What is it then?
- It's politics.
1415
01:44:41,541 --> 01:44:44,772
To enforce the rules
of a police state is politics.
1416
01:44:44,845 --> 01:44:47,405
Good guys like you cover it up
so bad guys are safe.
1417
01:44:47,481 --> 01:44:50,279
You're a puppet,
and the men pulling the strings know it.
1418
01:44:51,251 --> 01:44:53,048
Did he give you the tape?
1419
01:44:53,487 --> 01:44:55,717
- No.
- What are you gonna do?
1420
01:44:57,357 --> 01:44:59,484
Tell people, newspapers.
1421
01:45:00,394 --> 01:45:02,385
- They won't print it.
- We'll see.
1422
01:45:05,632 --> 01:45:07,429
Go back to America.
1423
01:45:07,934 --> 01:45:10,903
Get out of Belfast. You're in danger here.
1424
01:45:13,306 --> 01:45:15,866
Ingrid, it's finished.
1425
01:45:17,511 --> 01:45:21,003
Not for them, it isn't.
Not for Nevin and the others.
1426
01:45:22,282 --> 01:45:25,877
They're not going to disappear.
They're still in place.
1427
01:45:31,591 --> 01:45:33,923
You have a plane to catch, Mr. Kerrigan.
1428
01:45:53,280 --> 01:45:55,009
What? Yes.
1429
01:45:56,009 --> 01:46:06,009
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