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JAMES GUNN:
So, tell us about
how it all started.
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[LAUGHTER]
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JON FAVREAU: Oh,
it's all coming out tonight,
isn't it?
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PEYTON REED: Ryan, did you
come down just for this?RYAN COOGLER: Yeah.
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FAVREAU:
Seven directors here.
No shortage of opinion.
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[ALL LAUGHING]
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[INAUDIBLE CONVERSATIONS]
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FAVREAU: I just like
the superhero stuff,
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you know, I'm a geek
and I thought
it was supercool.
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And I've even done
a bit part in one of
the Batman movies.
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So, to me, it was...Which Batman movie
were you in?
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It was in Batman Forever.
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The Adam West one,
back in '66.
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[LAUGHING]
Yes, that's right.
That's right.
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It was the early days
of my acting career.
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No, yeah, it was
the Batman Forever,
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the Joel Schumacher one
with Val Kilmer.
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So, seeing all the stuff
from the comic books
was great.
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And it was before
the comic book culture was
as mainstream as it is now.
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What really hit was Elf.
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Because Elfmade money,
and I was on a list of
directors that were hirable.
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They approached me about it,
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and there was not really
a script or anything.
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They were working on a script, they had some story ideas.
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And I didn't know
what I was going to do
with it,
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but I thought
it was a cool concept.
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At the time, Transformers
was being made.
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So, I was real confident
that hard surfaces
would look good in CG.
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I tended to not really always
buy CG at the time.
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Let's face it.
This is not the worst thing
you've caught me doing.
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I think, potentially,
Marvel's rise
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coincided with the development
of CG, in a way.
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I think so.And it was
more photo-real
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so that comic book geeks
could go to
the movie theater
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and appreciate...You could have
a dude fly...
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I remember when I was little,
it was Superman.
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And part of that was that
you could show Superman
flying in a way
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that wasn't like
the old TV shows.
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So, I always think
it's a matching-up of tech
with the material.
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And then, of course,
the big thing was Robert.
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Like, getting Robert in
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and he's been
a really big through-line
through the whole journey.
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I am Iron Man.
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FAVREAU: It carried
a lot of us through,
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and then also just great
casting decisions after that
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that were, I think,
influenced by the sensibility
or tone
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of hiring Robert
to play Iron Man.
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Spider-Man is, like,
achingly sincere.
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Batman is obviously glum...
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But Iron Man,
the actual reveal was,
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"Oh, he's sincere.
He cares now."
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Like, when Robert is saying,
"I have to do this.
This is important,"
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'cause he's been so glib,
and so good,
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and so attractive
while he's being terrible,
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that when he actually shows
his heart, literally while
she's pulling his...
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FAVREAU: Yes. Right.
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WHEDON:
For me, that was like,
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"Oh, my God.
I'm so on board
with this guy now."
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Was that so hard?
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That was fun, right?
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Hold on. I got it,
I got it, I got it.
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Nice.
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I had had a lot of training
being around
animated characters.
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So when I came intoGuardians,
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I was fortunate
to have had
that background...
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FAVREAU: Sure. ...to deal with Rocket
and Groot,
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because I had
two main characters
that were both CGI aliens.
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Well, it's a character-first
table and I think that
that's what...
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What we were
most impressed with
when we saw Iron Man
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was the opening 10 minutes
of the movie.
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That's a ballsy
interpretation of
a narcissist
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who's presented
as a drunk and a jerk.
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We'll be throwing
one of these in
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with every purchase of
500 million or more.
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To peace.
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JOE: And this is the guy
that I'm supposed to get
on board with...
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FAVREAU: Right.
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JOE: ...who goes on this amazing journey over the course of the movie
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and I do get on board
with him.
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And I think
that that was unique.
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If you look back
at superhero films,
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there's a tendency
for the hero
or the costume
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to outshine the personality
of the character.
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And this was one of
the first times I can remember
the character first.
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GUNN: Yes.
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JOE: And that was
enlightening to us
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and what excited us
about Iron Man.
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FAVREAU: And very flawed...
The Marvel characters
are very flawed, generally.
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JOE: Very flawed.
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FURY: Sir! I'm going to
have to ask you to exit
the doughnut.
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JOE: And that's what
I loved about him
as a kid.
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And then reading
the books... I think a lot
of us read the books.
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FAVREAU: And it allows you
to have arcs, too,
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character arcs,
which is a big deal.
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And that opens you up
to the mythic aspect of it,
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which I think is really
the key of the success here,
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just like it is withStar Wars or the movies that have endured,
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is you have archetypes
and myth.
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And I remember
when I sawBlack Panther
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and there was the scene
where they bury him,
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and it goes
through death and rebirth
and all that,
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and I was, like,
"Oh, Ryan's reading
from the old book.
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"He's... Now, I'm in,"
and sure enough...
And I was there.
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Remember, I was there
the night of the premiere
with you.
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Yeah, I remember seeing you.Most of us were there,
actually. Right?
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That was kind of nice, too.GUNN: I think we were
all there. Yeah.
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FAVREAU: Yeah.
That was really cool,
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to be in the gallery
on the balcony with
all these guys.
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And here was...The rowdy section.
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And here was the new guy
who was coming out
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and here you were
and you got up
to the plate
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and you just caught that ball
and sent it over the wall.
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And we were all look...
Because we all look
at each other.
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It's one thing
when the crowd
goes crazy,
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but they were all
looking over,
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and we're all like,
"Yeah, all right.
All right."
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That's crazy.He crushed it.
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No, I was
in film school,
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my first semester
in film school
when I saw Iron Man.
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It's funny that you said
Transformerswas
happening at the same time,
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'cause I can remember that
like it was yesterday,
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like, the work ILM was doing,
you know, like seeing
the Transformers,
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trying to see
Optimus Prime's foot
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and seeing all
the gears spinning,
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and then seeing
Iron Man's foot.
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There were a few folks
that were heavy into comics,
you know what I mean?
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Like,Iron Man hit a chord with us, like true comic book fann a way,
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and I was there, actually,
the night that you guys
came out to the ArcLight.
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FAVREAU: Oh, yeah?COOGLER: Yeah. I was...
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FAVREAU: When me and Robert were running around?COOGLER: Yeah, yeah.
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Man, like you were all wearing
Stark Industries jackets
and stuff.
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Yes.I was there
with my classmates.
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Man, I'll never forget
that night.
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And we jumped in the front of
the theater.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.We were going from
theater to theater.
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We were so happy
and relieved and the crowd
was so ready for it.
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It was nuts,
just the energy
in there...
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Yeah. It was so fun.
Yeah, it was.
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You know,
I'll never forget that.
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What lit us so up
so much
about that movie was
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it's a part of
our creative process,
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we've always run
at these opportunities
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where you can take
two incongruous things
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and smash them together.
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Because it's just fun
to see what happens
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on a creative level
when you do that.
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So you had
this moment in time
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where the visual effects
are taking fantasy to a level
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that we've never had before.
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While at the same time,
on a character level,
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you're running hardcore
in the opposite direction
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to something very real,
grounded, relatable,
tangible.
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FAVREAU: And the irony is that the more focused and specific you make it,
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the more universal
the appeal seems to be.
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Because these are all
very specific titles,
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and in some cases,
starting with real
obscure characters.
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First off,
I'm a big fan.
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Appreciate it.
So, who the hell are you?
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I'm Ant-Man.
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"Ant-Man"?What, you haven't heard of me?
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I think with Ant-Man,
the main thing
I love about it is that,
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I think of all the MCU stuff,
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I always think of Scott Lang
as the real everyman,
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a guy who does not even...
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He may have known
that there was this
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other world of heroes
or heightened individuals,
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but it wasn't on his radar.
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His concerns are very much
just about getting his own
life back on track.
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And I mean, Rudd is amazing.
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I think he's one of
those guys who can do drama,
comedy, anything.
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I ruined the moment,
didn't I?Yes, you did. Yes.
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I'm gonna make some tea.
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CREW MEMBER:
We have a special guest
that is going to join us here.
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FAVREAU: Here it is.[LAUGHTER]
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REED: Oh, no.FAVREAU: Hello.
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REED: Oh, no, no.WHEDON: This can only
end in tears.
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REED: No, no, no.How are you, my friend?
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Who thought
this was a good idea?
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So, Taika, since you're here,
why don't we talk a little bit
about Thor: Ragnarok?
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Yeah? How'd you get
involved?
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I assume that they just
scraped the bottom of
the barrel.
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Then they lifted up
the barrel
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and looked at all the things
that were underneath it,
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and they said,
"Oh, this guy here,
he's desperate."
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So, yeah, that's how
I assumed it happened.
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WHEDON: I want to know
how they let you go
full Taika
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for that entire movie.FAVREAU: True.
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I was like...
That was so exciting to me
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that it just kept just going
to the next level.
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I think James had
something to do with that.
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I feel like Guardians...
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FAVREAU: He opened the door
a little bit. Yeah.
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That opened the door
to a kind of anarchy
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and just extraordinary
next-level humor.
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A lot of the, sort of,
pitch thing
that I had was
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a lot ofBig Trouble
in Little China
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and the thing I loved
about that film
was Jack Burton,
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all he wants in that film...
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His only thing he wants is to get his truck back.
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Something so simple
and all this crazy stuff
that was going on
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and I don't know
if you've ever seen this,
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someone cobbled together
this YouTube video,
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all the questions
that Jack Burton asked
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inBig Trouble
in Little China.
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And it's five minutes long.
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And it's basically
every question that
the audience is asking,
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which is, "Who's that?
What is this thing?
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"Where are we?
What are we doing?
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"Where's my truck?
I want my truck back.
Who's that guy?"
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And I thought,
"Yeah, with someone
who's from outer space,
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"you can't really relate
to this rich kid Viking,
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"and you want him to be
asking the questions
that you're asking."
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And that was one of
the main focuses
on that film,
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was Thor is always
on the back foot
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asking the questions
that we're asking.
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Was it weird for you to see
how your movie ended
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and then how it dovetailed
into The Avengersfilm?
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It felt like it was almost
a direct...JOE: Yeah.
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Narratively? Yeah.JOE: It was
a direct hand-off.
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A direct hand-off
to a very different tone.
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It felt, really, not to be
that involved
in something else...
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I felt very much like,
"Oh, this could be just like
a standalone little thing
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"that could be deleted
really easily, in a way,
if I screw this up."
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But, then... Yeah,
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to have a link to
something else afterwards
was really...
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Between your film, and with
Black Panthercoming out
so soon before,
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I really thought
it captured the momentum.
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I think that's probably
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the most interesting thing
about the Marvel Universe
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is this grand experiment
narrative. It's like
a giant mosaic.
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Storytelling told by
a bunch of
different people.
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And I think the audience has
also gained an ability
to understand the language
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of how we shift quickly,
how there are
different voices,
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how the tone can shift
dramatically,
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and they appreciate it
because they're
constantly being surprised.
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I think that's a big part
of Marvel's success.
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WHEDON: Ragnarok,
for me, I loved...
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'Cause I read Marvel
all the time,
since I was nine.
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It was like when Gene Colan
would take overIron Man
for a couple of issues
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and for two issues, Iron Man
looked like he was made
out of smoke
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because that's how
Gene Colan draws.
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And it would just be
a very different version
of what you love,
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but you didn't go, like,
"Oh, they've ruined it.
It's not Iron Man."
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It was exciting to see
somebody else's
interpretation.
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I didn't have
a deep comic book
knowledge.
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You understood it
in your bones
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and you were able to bring
a comic book sensibility to it
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that allowed it to open up
in scope, in size,
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and give it a set of rules
that could bear out for
the rest of the films.
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And then to see you pull
all that stuff together
and get laughs
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and have the characters
feel consistent...
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And when you're a filmmaker,
it's a very personal thing.
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You are the steward
and the shepherd
over this whole thing.
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Then you hand it off
and then
those characters live on
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and move through the world
without you.
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You're an Avenger now.
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When he says,
"I am Iron Man,"
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that was letting go
of the idea
of secret identities.
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Because to have to tell
the stories that
we have been telling,
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while somebody's hiding
from Aunt May
in the closet...
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It's so hard to
keep it feeling real.It's hard.
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FAVREAU: A lot of that
was Kevin,
to be honest with you,
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like, we came up...
He was like,
"Yes, we should."
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He latched onto that
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and he latched very much
onto the Nick Fury setup
post-credits scene.
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So there were certain things
that I would tell
that he wouldn't back...
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That he would hear it
or come up with it
or say it, and then,
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it was something that was
clicking for him
in the bigger picture.
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Oh, I made a joke about,
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"We should see them
all leaning forward
for 30 seconds."
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And then,
two months later, he's like,
"I think we can do it."
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I'm like, "Do what?"That was crazy.
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By the way,
can we talk about that
for a second?
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So you did
a post-credits scene
that you filmed,
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was it after
the premiere even or...
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Yes.FAVREAU:
It wasn't in the premiere.
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REED: That's the legend
that they got.FAVREAU: That's crazy!
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Yes. It did not go out
in Europe because we didn't
have time.
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It was during... While we were
doing press after the premiere
at the hotel.
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There was a shawarma place,
like, three blocks away.
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He got everybody in there.
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He had to cover...
Didn't he have facial hair?
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WHEDON: Yep.FAVREAU: It was Chris Evans.
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Evans had a beard.
So they put, like...
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It looked like
the Warren Beatty Dick Tracy,
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like, giant jaw on him,
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and he just sort of
hid it like this.
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COOGLER: That's also
someone I love.
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Like, you hear
stories about...
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It's like,
"Y'all gonna work up
to the last second."
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[ALL LAUGHING]
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But it's like
a double-edged sword.Yeah.
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COOGLER: It's like, yo,
anything's possible
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that you want to do,
maybe if you get
a late-in-the-game idea,
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but you also are gonna
not sleep for four months,
you know.
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And having Nate is great,
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'cause I'm constantly asking,
like, "When did you all
do this thing?"
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He's like,
"Oh, man, that was...
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"I guess we were two weeks
from having the print master."
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So, I'm like, "Okay, cool..."
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FAVREAU:
It's not healthy.
It's not healthy.
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COOGLER: Yeah, it's not,
but at the same time, I feel
like we all got those stories
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where you throw
something crazy out
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and then, Kevin is like,
"Yeah, we can do that."
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[ALL LAUGHING]
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I was editing
The Break-Up.FAVREAU: Yes.
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In which you were
an actor.Yes.
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And I remember you...
I think it...
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Probably right around
the time
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you were starting to prep
or develop Iron Man.
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Could be.The idea that,
as a director,
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"Here's something where
I want to take this
in-the-moment life
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"and reflecting real
human dynamics, and put it
in a fantasy thing."
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I really was excited to see
what you were going to do
with Iron Man.
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It was cool
because you didn't...
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When you do a comedy,
people judge your comedy
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and ask you
to defend jokes
or scrutinize it.
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Like in Elf,every joke
was up for discussion.
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But the action sequences for
Elf,nobody cared about.
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Like, I never got
any notes.
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And you were very excited
about... "That's going
to be my domain.
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"I can go and do this thing
and not be under this
comedy radar where..."
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I didn't even know
that they...
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I didn't even think they knew
it was going to be funny.
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I remember when
we first screened it
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and Kevin Feige was like,
"Whoa, this is pretty funny."
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I'm like,
"Yeah, it's pretty..."
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I think that Marvel has
developed into this
sort of Trojan horse
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where you can come in
and tell these stories
that are real
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and they're heightened stories
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and they have their roots in science fiction and comics,
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but you can also say a lot
about the human condition.
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And they're able to
sort of walk this line
of some drama
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that's pretty heavy
and intense drama
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and then some comedy
that's like, I think, kind of
cutting-edge comedy
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in terms of what's going on
in movies.
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And it can be subtle.
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In all of our films,
the comedy was snuck in.
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But I think it was with
Guardians where it felt like
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it could be called a comedy
first and foremost.
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GUNN: We ran at it.
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Dance-off, bro!
Me and you!
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And then certainly
with Ragnarok.
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I think Ragnarok
is a comedy,
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whereas my movie was
a really funny space opera.
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FAVREAU: Space opera.
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Well, but it also had
some serious emotion
in it, man.
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And it's emote drama.
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The way you got
emotion out of
a raccoon
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and out of a tree and things
like that, that was
really heartfelt and genuine.
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I remember reading
your first outline
that you gave us
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and it had a picture
of a Walkman.
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GUNN: Yeah,
that was the first.
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WHEDON: And at the end of
the first paragraph,
I was crying.
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GUNN: Joss,
you were the hugest
influence on me
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because I turned in
my first draft
of the screenplay
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and I was really afraid,
because I felt good about it,
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but I actually thought
it was too funny.
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And the thing
that you said to me,
which I share all the time,
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was, "Just make it
more James Gunn."
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And I went home
and that's when I...
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That night, after hearing
that, is when I went home
and wrote the 12% scene.
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[LAUGHING]
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That's a fake laugh.
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It's real.Totally fake.
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That is the most real,
authentic, hysterical laugh
of my entire life,
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because that is not
a plan.It's barely a concept.
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Something that Marvel does
that is brilliant,
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and it applies to all of us,
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is that nobody here
necessarily had the resume
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to make the next
big action film.
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They were interested in
having that person speak.
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They weren't interested
in saying,
"Look, just hit the marks."
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They wanted each one of us
to bring ourselves
to the movie.
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And you can tell,
as much as there's
a through-line in Marvel,
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you can definitely tell
who's who
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and what they constantly
want to talk about.
378
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I got on set
and then I realized,
379
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"This is the biggest thing
I've ever been on."
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And I was like...
I had to stop myself
from freaking out
381
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and talk to myself and say,
382
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"There's a reason
that they've asked you
to come here
383
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"and it's obviously not
because of your
experience in explosions
384
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"and action sequences.
385
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"It's because of
a tonal thing."
It relaxed me a lot more.
386
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I'd come out to work
and I'm like,
387
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"This is my strength.
I know my strength now.
388
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"This is why I'm here.
To do this stuff
389
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"and to make Chris
tell these
ridiculous stories
390
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"about all the times
that Loki tried to kill him."
391
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He transformed himself
into a snake and he knows
that I love snakes.
392
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So I went to pick up
the snake to admire it
393
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and he transformed back
into himself
394
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and he was like,
"It's me!"
Then he stabbed me.
395
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We were eight at the time.
396
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I remember
when I first started talking
with Marvel and stuff,
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you guys were in post.
398
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And making a film where
your lead actor has been cast
by somebody else is scary.
399
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You know what I mean?
It terrified me.
400
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And I knew
Chadwick was crazy talented.
401
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And I didn't know him
at the time yet.
402
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And I remember
just seeing him
403
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and seeing the decisions
that you guys had made,
404
00:17:55,457 --> 00:17:58,717
it went past me
like a sigh of relief for me
when I made the movie,
405
00:17:58,764 --> 00:18:02,424
but it took me
to being a fan again,
a kid again,
406
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and feeling like
you're in on something.
407
00:18:04,857 --> 00:18:08,167
My generation...
408
00:18:08,208 --> 00:18:11,818
Star Warswas something
that had happened
before I was born.
409
00:18:11,864 --> 00:18:14,654
So, it's like somebody's dad,
you know, if my dad
was into Star Wars.
410
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Somebody's dad was like,
"Yo, check this out.
Harrison Ford is there."
411
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But for me,
I know Harrison Ford
from The Fugitive.
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This is something
that he did
before I was around.
413
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Like Rocky Balboa.
I know Sylvester Stallone
from Cliffhanger.
414
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"What's he doing
with these
boxing gloves on?"
415
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That's what his
whole thing is,
you know?
416
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That'll be something
to tell my kids about,
417
00:18:30,622 --> 00:18:32,802
the first time I saw Chadwick
as the Black Panther,
418
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the first time I was
in the theater when
Robert Downey showed up
419
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and put the Iron Man suit on.
420
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So all those things, you feel
a sense of ownership over.
421
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It's something
I could never
thank you guys enough for,
422
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that you guys were competent enough to know who the guy was, to find him.
423
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It just laid the groundwork.
424
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There was a little bit of
Hamletthere.Clearly. Yeah.
425
00:18:55,647 --> 00:18:59,867
But also, we're looking
at The Godfather.
426
00:18:59,912 --> 00:19:03,442
And it was crazy
because I got a chance
to meet Francis.
427
00:19:03,481 --> 00:19:07,491
He watched the film at the ranch while we were still with friends and family.
428
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And I'm just like...
I was sick with nerves.[ALL LAUGHING]
429
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FAVREAU: What'd he say?Like, out of my mind, man.
430
00:19:12,969 --> 00:19:15,749
I'm nervous
just hearing about it.Yeah.
431
00:19:15,798 --> 00:19:18,538
After the movie was over,
he was just talking like this,
432
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he's giving me notes
faster than I could write.
433
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He just started naming
all of these movies
434
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and all of these books
that I needed to go read.
435
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That related to...That related to like,
you know, he...
436
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So, what was
he calling out?
What was he...
437
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COOGLER: Well, he was like,
"Have you seen Brigadoon?"
438
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I was like,
"No, I've never seen
Brigadoon."
439
00:19:36,384 --> 00:19:37,784
He was, like,
"Whoa, man, you've got
to see Brigadoon
440
00:19:37,820 --> 00:19:40,480
"'cause you've got
this thing
going on in this."
441
00:19:40,518 --> 00:19:42,958
And he said,
"Have you ever read
Shahnameh?"
442
00:19:42,999 --> 00:19:44,739
And I'm like, "Shala-what?"
443
00:19:44,783 --> 00:19:46,093
And he's like,
"Oh, you've got to read
Shahnameh."
444
00:19:46,132 --> 00:19:49,402
It's this Persian story
about these kings
445
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who had sons
who have to inherit
the throne.
446
00:19:52,269 --> 00:19:54,969
And it was
a big inspiration for him
with Godfather.
447
00:19:55,011 --> 00:19:58,751
And for us, we kind of saw
Chadwick's character
as Michael
448
00:19:58,797 --> 00:20:00,627
and his father was Don.
449
00:20:00,669 --> 00:20:02,449
And he's got to fill the shoes of this great man
450
00:20:02,497 --> 00:20:03,757
who's also his father.
451
00:20:03,802 --> 00:20:06,942
So he's just rattling off
all of this stuff.
452
00:20:06,979 --> 00:20:08,979
And you realize it's like,
"Yeah, man, everybody
pulls from everything."
453
00:20:09,025 --> 00:20:10,505
They do.
454
00:20:10,548 --> 00:20:12,328
And the writers
of the comic books
did, too, I'm sure,
455
00:20:12,376 --> 00:20:14,506
because they were
churning out
so much stuff.
456
00:20:14,552 --> 00:20:17,432
What movies were you all...
Were there any
touchstone films?
457
00:20:17,468 --> 00:20:20,858
I mean, for me, Rocket is
Frankenstein's monster.
458
00:20:20,906 --> 00:20:22,946
FAVREAU: Right.
459
00:20:22,995 --> 00:20:26,735
GUNN: He is this
little creature that was
this innocent animal
460
00:20:26,782 --> 00:20:30,352
who was turned
into something that isn't
what he was supposed to be
461
00:20:30,394 --> 00:20:33,444
and is completely alone
and completely lost,
462
00:20:33,484 --> 00:20:37,794
and has no connection, has no tenderness from anyone.
463
00:20:37,836 --> 00:20:42,006
To me, that was the seed
from which
the entire story grew.
464
00:20:42,058 --> 00:20:44,838
JOE: Part of, again,
the passing of the baton is,
465
00:20:44,887 --> 00:20:47,587
as storytellers,
we look at that and go,
"Oh, interesting."
466
00:20:47,629 --> 00:20:50,549
We have somewhere
really dynamic to go
with this character
467
00:20:50,588 --> 00:20:54,848
who never emotionally
connects,'cause it's not
part of his DNA.
468
00:20:54,897 --> 00:20:57,157
What happens if you put him
with this incredible sad sack
469
00:20:57,203 --> 00:20:59,213
who's lost everything
in his life
470
00:20:59,249 --> 00:21:03,119
and has no other choice
but to win or die?
471
00:21:03,166 --> 00:21:04,556
I assume
you're the captain, sir?
472
00:21:04,602 --> 00:21:05,782
You're very perceptive.
473
00:21:05,821 --> 00:21:07,041
You seem like a noble leader.
474
00:21:07,083 --> 00:21:08,823
Will you join me
on my quest to Nidavellir?
475
00:21:08,867 --> 00:21:10,167
Let me just
ask the captain.
476
00:21:10,216 --> 00:21:11,906
Oh, wait a second, it's me.
477
00:21:11,957 --> 00:21:13,607
Yeah, I'll go.Wonderful.
478
00:21:13,655 --> 00:21:16,475
We needed to create
a situation
where you really believe
479
00:21:16,527 --> 00:21:18,567
that Thor was going to
kill Thanos.
480
00:21:18,616 --> 00:21:21,526
That was
the story of the film,
his journey to that.
481
00:21:21,576 --> 00:21:24,536
And it's like
that extreme level
of suffering
482
00:21:24,579 --> 00:21:26,279
that that character
has gone through,
483
00:21:26,319 --> 00:21:28,759
beginning at the end of
Thor: Ragnarok,
484
00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,800
and then carrying into
the beginning of
Infinity War,
485
00:21:31,847 --> 00:21:34,677
where this guy
has just lost everything.
486
00:21:34,719 --> 00:21:39,249
And it's that level of
sadness that imbues him
with that underdog quality
487
00:21:39,289 --> 00:21:42,209
that then becomes the heart
of the movie
and you start to root for.
488
00:21:42,248 --> 00:21:46,248
And you believe the energy
that's going to carry you
into the climax.
489
00:21:46,296 --> 00:21:49,516
So, that pairing, I think,
was very interesting
on that level
490
00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:51,520
because they sort of
share that DNA.
491
00:21:51,562 --> 00:21:55,002
So, dead brother, huh?
Yeah, that can be annoying.
492
00:21:56,088 --> 00:21:57,308
Well, he's been
dead before.
493
00:22:04,227 --> 00:22:08,797
There's a belief out there
thatsomehow, over the past
however many years,
494
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:13,850
we sat in a room
and we came up
with this long big story
495
00:22:13,889 --> 00:22:19,719
that all leads to this
one thing, and it's just
not the way it is.
496
00:22:19,764 --> 00:22:21,904
FAVREAU: It's not, but it...It's much more
like what you say.
497
00:22:21,940 --> 00:22:23,640
FAVREAU: But it kind of is
in a weird way, and a lot of
it's Kevin. Right?
498
00:22:23,681 --> 00:22:25,031
COOGLER: Yeah.
499
00:22:25,074 --> 00:22:26,824
FAVREAU: All kidding aside,
I mean, there was...
500
00:22:26,858 --> 00:22:28,558
Yeah.He's a constant.
501
00:22:28,599 --> 00:22:32,599
There was a map on the wall
behind Tony Stark
and Nick Fury
502
00:22:32,647 --> 00:22:37,567
at the end ofIron Man 2
that had Wakanda on it,
503
00:22:37,608 --> 00:22:39,128
and all those things
that I always thought
504
00:22:39,175 --> 00:22:41,175
were just Easter eggs
and fun for the fans,
505
00:22:41,220 --> 00:22:45,750
but he must have been keeping his journal and having the through-line of one person
506
00:22:45,790 --> 00:22:48,710
that really would come in
and not just be an executive,
507
00:22:48,750 --> 00:22:53,360
but actually have a creative
point of view that you could
go back-and-forth on.
508
00:22:53,406 --> 00:22:56,756
And it wasn't always top-down,
"You must do this,"
509
00:22:56,801 --> 00:22:58,111
but there were things
he would question.
510
00:22:58,150 --> 00:22:59,630
There were things
that he would push on.
511
00:22:59,674 --> 00:23:03,634
And I think part of that
creates consistency
512
00:23:03,678 --> 00:23:06,638
of at least knowing
what everybody else
was up to.
513
00:23:06,681 --> 00:23:08,551
And then, I think,
you all took it
to the next level
514
00:23:08,596 --> 00:23:10,896
where you all were,
especially, I think,
515
00:23:10,946 --> 00:23:14,116
now more so than ever,
on the newAvengers films,
516
00:23:14,166 --> 00:23:16,256
where you were
very involved, right?
517
00:23:16,299 --> 00:23:17,819
It was like
an open-door kind of thing.
518
00:23:17,866 --> 00:23:21,426
I would drop by
and see you guys
at different points.
519
00:23:21,478 --> 00:23:24,608
And you guys would come in
while we were in production
design meetings.
520
00:23:24,655 --> 00:23:27,345
I remember that was
a couple days there.
521
00:23:28,877 --> 00:23:31,177
I remember
when we came over to
see you, by the way.
522
00:23:31,227 --> 00:23:37,967
You were shooting and Taika
was shooting at the same time,
and you were both...
523
00:23:38,016 --> 00:23:39,976
You were building
a whole universe
524
00:23:40,018 --> 00:23:43,808
and he was
completely re-toning
while we were shooting.
525
00:23:43,848 --> 00:23:48,238
So we were trying to absorb
information from both of you
526
00:23:48,287 --> 00:23:50,247
in a way
that I think is...
527
00:23:50,289 --> 00:23:53,729
Again, we've all...
I think we've all made
standalone stories as unique.
528
00:23:53,771 --> 00:23:57,171
What's fascinating about
Marvel is the new form
of storytelling.
529
00:23:57,209 --> 00:24:00,079
It is this giant band
of people playing
530
00:24:00,125 --> 00:24:01,735
and passing
instruments around
and trading licks
531
00:24:01,779 --> 00:24:03,559
and we're trying
different things
with tone
532
00:24:03,607 --> 00:24:06,437
and different things
with humor,
drama, thematics...
533
00:24:08,351 --> 00:24:10,571
On a very big
cultural canvas
534
00:24:10,614 --> 00:24:13,884
in a way that has never
been done before.
535
00:24:13,922 --> 00:24:17,232
And I remember
when we came over
to see you,
536
00:24:17,273 --> 00:24:19,673
we spent two hours with you
and your creative team.
537
00:24:19,710 --> 00:24:22,150
And you guys were just
pitching out the vision.
538
00:24:22,191 --> 00:24:24,021
I remember
we walked out of there
and I went,
539
00:24:24,062 --> 00:24:28,112
"He is building
to the level of detail
of a universe."
540
00:24:28,153 --> 00:24:30,163
That's crazy, by the way.
Let's just take a minute.
541
00:24:30,199 --> 00:24:34,549
It's interesting because,
in a way, yes, you inherited
the character,
542
00:24:34,594 --> 00:24:37,474
but most of us,
we inherit the world
and build a new character.
543
00:24:37,510 --> 00:24:39,690
You inherited a character
and built the world
544
00:24:39,730 --> 00:24:43,300
and also a villain
that got all the attention
545
00:24:43,342 --> 00:24:45,432
that any hero would get.
546
00:24:45,475 --> 00:24:50,515
And a completely
fleshed-out set of
motivations and backstory.
547
00:24:50,567 --> 00:24:53,567
And then that world, when it
opened up and peeled back,
it was fully formed.
548
00:24:53,613 --> 00:24:55,493
It felt completely consistent.
549
00:24:55,528 --> 00:24:59,358
And then, by the way,
when I saw that Wakanda
in your film,
550
00:24:59,402 --> 00:25:01,582
I didn't feel
the differentiation.
551
00:25:01,621 --> 00:25:05,061
When we did
the post-credits scene for
Thor onIron Man 2,
552
00:25:05,103 --> 00:25:07,853
that was shot by Branagh.
I didn't do that sequence.
553
00:25:07,889 --> 00:25:10,069
And so, it felt like
part of Branagh's film.
554
00:25:10,108 --> 00:25:12,278
But what's happening now is
all the Guardiansstuff
555
00:25:12,328 --> 00:25:13,758
felt completely consistent.
556
00:25:13,808 --> 00:25:16,198
I think that these guys
have got
a good sense of
557
00:25:16,245 --> 00:25:18,245
what those characters were.
558
00:25:18,290 --> 00:25:21,250
I didn't ever have an ending
for what Guardians 2
was supposed to be.
559
00:25:21,293 --> 00:25:25,823
I didn't have a single story point that was ever discussed with Marvel
560
00:25:25,863 --> 00:25:28,173
before I wrote the story.
561
00:25:28,213 --> 00:25:32,223
So where that movie ends up,
with Nebula going off
and doing her thing,
562
00:25:32,261 --> 00:25:35,181
that's what I mean by,
people, we kind of do
our own little thing.
563
00:25:35,220 --> 00:25:38,440
We write our own little story
and then it goes off
to these guys.
564
00:25:38,484 --> 00:25:41,574
And I gave
these guys a script
very, very early on.
565
00:25:41,618 --> 00:25:42,918
And they said...
566
00:25:42,967 --> 00:25:44,267
For Guardians...Okay.For 2.
567
00:25:44,316 --> 00:25:46,276
And they were like,
"That's perfect,
568
00:25:46,318 --> 00:25:48,838
"because that works great
for us
with where Nebula is,
569
00:25:48,886 --> 00:25:52,146
"what we want to do
with the story."
And it goes off.
570
00:25:52,194 --> 00:25:56,154
And I think that is the fluid nature of the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
571
00:25:56,198 --> 00:25:57,808
It's that moving
from story to story,
572
00:25:57,852 --> 00:26:01,252
letting a Russo brothers movie be a Russo brothers movie.
573
00:26:01,290 --> 00:26:03,030
Letting a Ryan movie
be a Ryan movie.
574
00:26:03,074 --> 00:26:05,474
Letting a Peyton movie
be a Peyton movie.
575
00:26:05,511 --> 00:26:08,381
But still being true to
the nature of those
different characters
576
00:26:08,427 --> 00:26:11,337
and paying heed
to what came before.
577
00:26:11,387 --> 00:26:14,687
Because you do have to respect
what happened before you.
578
00:26:14,738 --> 00:26:17,998
We've had this whole dance
with Ant-Man,too.
579
00:26:18,046 --> 00:26:19,086
Because we did Ant-Man,
580
00:26:19,134 --> 00:26:20,964
I remember
when we were in post
581
00:26:21,005 --> 00:26:24,175
and you guys, I assume,
were writing and developing Civil War,
582
00:26:24,226 --> 00:26:26,316
and I remember
showing you stuff
that we had done
583
00:26:26,358 --> 00:26:28,798
for when Rudd's breaking in
and seeing the suit and stuff
584
00:26:28,839 --> 00:26:31,579
just to get an idea of
how he was playing
Scott Lang...
585
00:26:31,624 --> 00:26:33,844
Nice.
586
00:26:33,888 --> 00:26:35,718
REED: ...knowing he was
going to be worked into
Civil War in some way.
587
00:26:35,759 --> 00:26:39,109
Oh, this is awesome.
Captain America.
I know you, too. You're great.
588
00:26:39,154 --> 00:26:41,684
REED: And then, of course,
you just came across...
589
00:26:41,721 --> 00:26:44,331
"Wait, are we supposed to be
getting a Giant-Man reveal?
590
00:26:44,376 --> 00:26:47,336
"Wait, wait, hold on.
Let's discuss
this thing, man."
591
00:26:47,379 --> 00:26:51,299
And at a point, I think,
maybe Wasp was even
going to be in at one point.
592
00:26:51,340 --> 00:26:52,950
She was.Yeah, early on.
593
00:26:52,994 --> 00:26:54,604
She was also going to be
in Avengersat one point.
594
00:26:54,647 --> 00:26:56,477
REED: That's right, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
595
00:26:56,519 --> 00:26:59,999
So, I wrote, like,
a whole draft. Wakanda was
going to be in Ultron.
596
00:27:00,044 --> 00:27:03,314
And then we kept, like,
"Well, it's at the gates.
It's by the..."
597
00:27:03,352 --> 00:27:05,832
And then we started
referring to it as "Wakinda."
598
00:27:05,876 --> 00:27:08,966
And then, finally,
we were like,
"Let's just wait on this one."
599
00:27:09,010 --> 00:27:11,970
Well, you start to figure out,
like, how much can this
one movie contain.
600
00:27:12,013 --> 00:27:14,153
I don't think these guys
asked that question
last time.
601
00:27:14,189 --> 00:27:17,759
The fact that you took
all of those worlds
and people
602
00:27:17,801 --> 00:27:20,801
and made it all matter
and made it all flow.
603
00:27:20,848 --> 00:27:23,628
ANTHONY: There's something terrifying about it when you look at it at first.
604
00:27:23,676 --> 00:27:25,546
But therein lies
the opportunity,
605
00:27:25,591 --> 00:27:28,731
because you know
you have to go somewhere
where you weren't expecting
606
00:27:28,768 --> 00:27:31,118
and that you don't have
a lot of road-map for.
607
00:27:31,162 --> 00:27:32,902
And that's the fun of it.
608
00:27:32,947 --> 00:27:35,377
JOE:
And what's amazing about it,
and this is unique, again, is
609
00:27:35,427 --> 00:27:36,817
it is a united artist
610
00:27:36,864 --> 00:27:39,214
and everybody's standing
on everybody else's shoulders.
611
00:27:39,257 --> 00:27:42,477
What Marvel has done
is hired a group of
very passionate people.
612
00:27:42,521 --> 00:27:45,791
And we're passing off
challenging concepts.
613
00:27:45,829 --> 00:27:47,399
Like, you were
talking about,
614
00:27:47,439 --> 00:27:50,749
you receive things
in a way where you go,
"Oh, that's amazing.
615
00:27:50,790 --> 00:27:52,750
"We can do something
with that.
That's really incredible."
616
00:27:52,792 --> 00:27:55,402
And it's a different form of
having, for 20 years,
617
00:27:55,447 --> 00:28:00,627
told linear,
close-ended stories...
This is exciting to us.
618
00:28:00,670 --> 00:28:05,070
Ant-Man and the Wasp,
when we were talking
about doing a next Ant-Man,
619
00:28:05,109 --> 00:28:09,369
when you have
every possibility there,
that's really daunting.
620
00:28:09,418 --> 00:28:11,158
But what happened
in Civil War
621
00:28:11,202 --> 00:28:13,942
gave us a really natural,
organic starting-off point.
622
00:28:13,988 --> 00:28:16,468
It really suggested, like,
623
00:28:16,512 --> 00:28:20,042
"What are the ramifications
of Scott Lang going off
and taking that technology
624
00:28:20,081 --> 00:28:22,261
"and exposing it to the Avengers, and particularly to Tony Stark?
625
00:28:22,300 --> 00:28:25,130
"That's Hank Pym's worst
nightmare. How's he going to
react to that?"
626
00:28:25,173 --> 00:28:27,833
And that instantly gave us,
like, "Oh, okay.
627
00:28:27,871 --> 00:28:29,921
"Maybe these characters are
going to be fractured at
the beginning of this movie."
628
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,440
It really gave us a really
organic starting-off point
to do this movie
629
00:28:33,485 --> 00:28:36,005
that is a story,
a standalone story,
630
00:28:36,053 --> 00:28:39,013
that fits very squarely in
the timeline in ways that
the audience will discover.
631
00:28:39,056 --> 00:28:41,406
For me, so much of the center
of the Marvel Universe
632
00:28:41,450 --> 00:28:45,410
has to do with the space
between Avengers
and Winter Soldier.
633
00:28:45,454 --> 00:28:48,814
Because Avengers,to me,
is the ultimate
comic book movie.
634
00:28:48,848 --> 00:28:51,458
Like, I went to that movie
and I would go,
635
00:28:51,503 --> 00:28:55,593
"This was what was
in my brain when I was 11
and readingAvengers comics.
636
00:28:55,638 --> 00:28:57,988
"That was better
than what the comics were.
637
00:28:58,032 --> 00:29:01,642
"This is the ultimate
superhero movie ever."
638
00:29:01,687 --> 00:29:04,037
And thenWinter Soldier
came along and said,
639
00:29:04,081 --> 00:29:05,561
"It's not really
a superhero movie.
640
00:29:05,604 --> 00:29:08,004
"It's kind of a 1970s
paranoia thriller."
641
00:29:08,042 --> 00:29:09,522
FAVREAU: Well, I think
that's the trick.
642
00:29:09,565 --> 00:29:12,865
And going into
making genre films...That's right.
643
00:29:12,916 --> 00:29:14,786
...is what has been...
Different genre films.
644
00:29:14,831 --> 00:29:17,401
I also think
you guys defined
645
00:29:17,442 --> 00:29:22,322
not just the costume,
but Cap,
for people, I think.
646
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,890
I think First Avenger
is great.
I really enjoy that movie.
647
00:29:25,929 --> 00:29:29,279
I enjoyed working on it
and, obviously,
648
00:29:29,324 --> 00:29:30,934
I loved working with him,
working with that character.
649
00:29:30,978 --> 00:29:32,848
But I feel like
Winter Soldieris when
650
00:29:32,892 --> 00:29:36,942
he got locked in
and became sort of
the heart of...
651
00:29:36,984 --> 00:29:41,814
If Tony's the head, Cap is
the heart, and in a way
that he hadn't been before.
652
00:29:41,858 --> 00:29:45,338
And I also think, yeah,
going to genre, grounding it,
653
00:29:45,383 --> 00:29:48,473
having action set-pieces
that are tons of practical,
654
00:29:48,517 --> 00:29:50,207
but mapped out
really beautifully.
655
00:29:50,258 --> 00:29:52,648
Because there can be...
If you're doing
a giant space-epic,
656
00:29:52,695 --> 00:29:54,775
there can be a moment
where you're like,
657
00:29:54,827 --> 00:29:58,307
"Just throw your arms about
and we'll add some CG people
that you're punching."
658
00:29:58,353 --> 00:30:00,443
Like, you can do
the vague version.
659
00:30:00,485 --> 00:30:03,965
Try not to do it
as often as possible,
but you can.
660
00:30:04,011 --> 00:30:06,931
AndWinter Soldier
had that extraordinary,
661
00:30:06,970 --> 00:30:09,100
exciting, down-to-the-ground
kind of action.
662
00:30:09,146 --> 00:30:10,406
Engine room secure.
663
00:30:18,460 --> 00:30:22,380
The biggest fear for us
was to make something
that was frivolous.
664
00:30:22,420 --> 00:30:24,030
That was my biggest fear.
665
00:30:24,074 --> 00:30:26,164
The theme of identity,
as it relates to culture,
666
00:30:26,207 --> 00:30:28,727
should be something
that is at the heart of it.
667
00:30:28,774 --> 00:30:32,694
There was also
this idea of nationalism.
"Am I my brother's keeper?
668
00:30:32,735 --> 00:30:35,295
"Is it my duty
to just take care
of my own,
669
00:30:35,346 --> 00:30:38,566
"or do I have
a responsibility
to people over there?"
670
00:30:38,610 --> 00:30:40,740
And it was about Wakanda's
answer to that question.
671
00:30:40,786 --> 00:30:42,696
"Am I my brother's keeper?"
being, "No."
672
00:30:42,745 --> 00:30:44,525
And then going on
the journey to it
becoming, "Yes."
673
00:30:44,573 --> 00:30:46,493
So that's what
we were aiming at.
674
00:30:46,531 --> 00:30:47,791
We didn't know
if we were going to
connect with it,
675
00:30:47,837 --> 00:30:49,397
but every day
we were aiming at it.
676
00:30:49,447 --> 00:30:51,967
And fortunately,
when we pitched these themes,
677
00:30:52,015 --> 00:30:53,405
Kevin, Lou and Victoria
and Nate,
678
00:30:53,451 --> 00:30:54,931
they were like,
"Yeah, let's go.
Let's do it."
679
00:30:54,974 --> 00:30:57,464
GUNN: So much of
the secret has to do
with Marvel Comics.
680
00:30:57,499 --> 00:31:01,499
I mean, it really is
what Marvel Comics
always did.
681
00:31:01,546 --> 00:31:05,506
They had these stories with
characters that continued
from one story to the next.
682
00:31:05,550 --> 00:31:08,210
They were all very different,
individual stories
683
00:31:08,249 --> 00:31:11,989
that somehow were all
part of the Marvel Universe.
684
00:31:12,035 --> 00:31:14,855
So, in one way,
there's nothing new
about any of this.
685
00:31:14,907 --> 00:31:19,607
It's just taking what were
comic books and putting them
into movie form.
686
00:31:19,651 --> 00:31:22,221
And like you said so clearly,
it just so happened that
687
00:31:22,263 --> 00:31:27,753
when Iron Manstarted,
it was a movie that somehow
688
00:31:27,790 --> 00:31:29,920
finally had caught up
with technology,
689
00:31:29,966 --> 00:31:32,796
so that we could watch
a superhero film
690
00:31:32,838 --> 00:31:36,488
and it could be like what
we imagined when we were
reading comic books.
691
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:39,150
I'm just
incredibly grateful.
692
00:31:39,193 --> 00:31:43,723
Iron Manwould have been
a little chapter,
693
00:31:43,762 --> 00:31:47,242
like a little footnote
in history,
694
00:31:47,288 --> 00:31:50,328
but because of all the work
everybody's done,
695
00:31:50,378 --> 00:31:56,858
and each film sort of builds
upon the other ones
that came before it,
696
00:31:56,906 --> 00:31:59,866
it's still relevant now
through the voices
of everybody here
697
00:31:59,909 --> 00:32:01,609
who has worked on it
and others who aren't here
698
00:32:01,650 --> 00:32:03,520
and the people at Marvel
and Kevin.
699
00:32:03,565 --> 00:32:06,655
JOE: I think
it's interesting
that all of us, I think,
700
00:32:06,698 --> 00:32:11,828
showed up at the moment
that we needed to show up
in the Marvel Universe.
701
00:32:11,877 --> 00:32:14,267
You kind of go back
and look at it,
702
00:32:14,315 --> 00:32:20,225
that everyone played a part,
in a way,
that built this mosaic
703
00:32:20,277 --> 00:32:23,107
and in a way
that's completely
unpredictable.
704
00:32:23,150 --> 00:32:25,330
And I don't know
of any other way
it could have been built.
705
00:32:34,204 --> 00:32:35,164
[ROARING]
706
00:32:56,313 --> 00:32:58,053
[DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING]
707
00:33:05,844 --> 00:33:07,854
[SHUDDERS][ALL LAUGHING]
708
00:33:07,890 --> 00:33:09,200
[UPBEAT MUSIC PLAYING]
709
00:33:14,592 --> 00:33:15,292
Because you're worth it.
710
00:33:19,684 --> 00:33:20,734
[GRUNTS][BLEEPING]
711
00:33:21,382 --> 00:33:22,562
[GRUNTS] Ohh!
712
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,820
Rolling.
713
00:33:25,864 --> 00:33:28,484
I'm Doctor... Ugh...
I'm Doctor I-Can't-Walk
at the moment.
714
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,040
Yep.I'm in.
715
00:33:31,087 --> 00:33:33,087
Yeah?[LAUGHING]
716
00:33:33,132 --> 00:33:38,012
Flying about 80 miles an hour.
Just a big chocolate missile.
717
00:33:38,050 --> 00:33:40,180
Hey, Russo, you want me
to go Jamie Foxx on this one?
718
00:33:42,141 --> 00:33:44,061
Oh... [BLEEP]
719
00:33:44,100 --> 00:33:48,500
Everybody put on
your sunglasses.
Denzel's coming out.
720
00:33:48,539 --> 00:33:50,669
I'm going full Cheadle
on this take.
721
00:33:50,715 --> 00:33:51,975
JOE: Oh. [BLEEP]
Don't give 'em full Cheadle.
722
00:33:52,021 --> 00:33:53,981
Full Cheadle.
723
00:33:54,023 --> 00:33:56,243
I know you have
found something.[GOAT BLEATING]
724
00:33:57,548 --> 00:33:59,808
A sense of peace.[GOAT BLEATING LOUDLY]
725
00:33:59,855 --> 00:34:01,115
[LAUGHING]
726
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,030
Okay, now you are
going too far now.
727
00:34:03,075 --> 00:34:04,685
[GOAT BLEATING][ALL LAUGHING]
728
00:34:04,729 --> 00:34:06,299
We don't trade lives,
Captain.
729
00:34:06,340 --> 00:34:07,950
[BOTH LAUGHING]
730
00:34:07,993 --> 00:34:09,393
I told you to go.
731
00:34:09,430 --> 00:34:10,610
[BOTH PANTING]
732
00:34:10,648 --> 00:34:12,218
[BOTH LAUGH]
733
00:34:12,259 --> 00:34:15,349
We need to destroy...
[BLEEP] you, Ruffalo. [LAUGHS]
734
00:34:15,392 --> 00:34:17,532
How long do I stand here
overacting for?
735
00:34:17,568 --> 00:34:21,528
Oh, yeah. Okay. Oh, my God.
This is going to be
some bad acting now.
736
00:34:21,572 --> 00:34:24,752
Supercalifragilisticexpiali-
nano.RUFFALO: ...expiali-dada.
737
00:34:24,793 --> 00:34:26,273
[UPBEAT MUSIC PLAYING]
738
00:34:32,235 --> 00:34:33,405
Hold on. There's a fly.
739
00:34:36,457 --> 00:34:38,497
[LAUGHS]God [BLEEP] bugs!
740
00:34:40,025 --> 00:34:41,635
Who are you guys?
741
00:34:41,679 --> 00:34:43,119
[ALL LAUGHING]
742
00:34:45,292 --> 00:34:46,952
Why was she up there
all this time... [BLEEP]
743
00:34:46,989 --> 00:34:48,469
[IMITATES RUMBLING]
744
00:34:55,258 --> 00:34:55,998
Was that good?[CREW LAUGHING]
745
00:35:14,364 --> 00:35:15,324
Mr. Stark.
746
00:35:16,061 --> 00:35:18,061
Captain.
747
00:35:18,107 --> 00:35:21,277
KEVIN FEIGE: There is
just something awesome
about seeing these
748
00:35:21,328 --> 00:35:25,328
different franchise heroes
interacting with each other
for the first time.
749
00:35:25,375 --> 00:35:26,935
BANNER: Who are you?Natasha Romanoff.
750
00:35:29,248 --> 00:35:32,988
The notion of seeing
characters who you've grown
to love in their own movies
751
00:35:33,035 --> 00:35:35,815
walking into another movie
for the first time,
752
00:35:35,864 --> 00:35:38,264
there is just something
that is satisfying.
753
00:35:40,129 --> 00:35:41,349
[ROARING]
754
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,270
We haven't really seen that
since the firstAvengers.
755
00:35:46,309 --> 00:35:48,089
Avengers: Age of Ultron introduced some new characters
756
00:35:48,137 --> 00:35:50,707
within the body of that film.
757
00:35:50,748 --> 00:35:54,058
Captain America: Civil Warintroduced Black Panther
and Spider-Man.
758
00:35:54,099 --> 00:35:55,229
Hey, everyone.
759
00:35:55,274 --> 00:35:56,674
And then,
here we are years later...
760
00:35:56,711 --> 00:35:58,061
[WAKANDANS CHANTING
IN XHOSA]
761
00:35:58,103 --> 00:35:59,413
...doing Infinity War.
762
00:36:05,502 --> 00:36:07,072
[ALL EXCLAIM]
763
00:36:07,896 --> 00:36:09,676
ROCKET: Wipers! Wipers!
764
00:36:09,724 --> 00:36:10,814
Get it off.
765
00:36:11,682 --> 00:36:13,082
[ALL GASP]
766
00:36:13,118 --> 00:36:15,768
How the hell
is this dude still alive?
767
00:36:15,817 --> 00:36:16,907
He is not a dude.
768
00:36:17,862 --> 00:36:18,912
You're a dude.
769
00:36:19,603 --> 00:36:22,043
This... This is a man.
770
00:36:23,302 --> 00:36:25,832
A handsome, muscular man.
771
00:36:25,870 --> 00:36:27,790
I'm muscular.
772
00:36:27,829 --> 00:36:30,529
We're doing something
the fans have wanted
from day one.
773
00:36:30,571 --> 00:36:31,661
Who the hell are you guys?
774
00:36:34,705 --> 00:36:37,795
Ever since the very beginning
of getting the job as Drax
in Guardians,
775
00:36:37,839 --> 00:36:40,799
I was really wishing that
the worlds would collide.
776
00:36:40,842 --> 00:36:43,502
We like to combine things
that don't seem like
they belong together.
777
00:36:44,454 --> 00:36:45,764
I feel your pain.
778
00:36:45,803 --> 00:36:47,893
I feel your pain as well.
779
00:36:47,936 --> 00:36:49,806
JOE: The exciting aspect
of the film
780
00:36:49,851 --> 00:36:51,371
is that we're gonna take
all of these characters
781
00:36:51,418 --> 00:36:52,808
from different franchises
in the Marvel Universe
782
00:36:52,854 --> 00:36:53,814
and we're gonna
put them together.
783
00:36:54,464 --> 00:36:55,994
Tony Stark.
784
00:36:56,031 --> 00:36:59,121
I'm Doctor Stephen Strange.
I need you to come with me.
785
00:36:59,164 --> 00:37:02,344
I'm sorry, you giving out
tickets to something?
786
00:37:02,385 --> 00:37:06,775
The "Strange Alchemy"
is a phrase that we came up
with in the writers' room.
787
00:37:06,824 --> 00:37:09,264
"Which characters
can we put together that
audiences are excited to see?"
788
00:37:12,134 --> 00:37:14,274
What is your job exactly?
Besides making
balloon animals.
789
00:37:14,310 --> 00:37:16,880
Protecting your reality.
790
00:37:16,921 --> 00:37:19,661
"How do you combine all these
different tones, all these
different characters,
791
00:37:19,707 --> 00:37:21,057
"and how do we balance it?"
792
00:37:21,099 --> 00:37:22,879
What exactly is it
that they do?
793
00:37:22,927 --> 00:37:24,537
Kick names, take ass.
794
00:37:24,581 --> 00:37:25,971
Yeah, that's right.
795
00:37:26,017 --> 00:37:27,627
JOE: That's gonna create
the most spark
796
00:37:27,671 --> 00:37:29,981
because conflict between
heroes can be entertaining.
797
00:37:31,196 --> 00:37:33,326
What are you doing?Taking your pod.
798
00:37:33,372 --> 00:37:34,852
[PETER CLEARS THROAT]
799
00:37:34,896 --> 00:37:36,106
[IN DEEP VOICE]
No, you're not.
800
00:37:36,158 --> 00:37:39,988
You will not be taking
our pod today, sir.
801
00:37:40,031 --> 00:37:41,121
Are you making
your voice deeper?
802
00:37:43,513 --> 00:37:46,523
We had the opportunity
to bring all of the
Marvel Universe
803
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:47,340
practically together.
804
00:37:48,605 --> 00:37:49,385
RHODES: You guys...
805
00:37:50,694 --> 00:37:51,484
really look like crap.
806
00:37:53,349 --> 00:37:55,309
TRAN: I think
those small little
character moments
807
00:37:55,351 --> 00:37:57,091
are what makes
Marvel movies so special.
808
00:37:57,135 --> 00:37:58,395
[GROWLS]Where's your guy?
809
00:37:58,441 --> 00:37:59,881
[GRUNTING]
810
00:38:02,619 --> 00:38:04,099
Dude, you're embarrassing me
in front of the wizard.
811
00:38:08,233 --> 00:38:10,453
T'CHALLA: Today,
we don't fight for one life,
812
00:38:11,672 --> 00:38:13,852
we fight for all of them.
813
00:38:13,891 --> 00:38:18,031
JOE: So, the greatest test
that these characters
will ever face,
814
00:38:18,069 --> 00:38:19,459
they can barely
face it together.
815
00:38:20,768 --> 00:38:21,458
DR. STRANGE:
We're in the endgame now.
816
00:38:22,683 --> 00:38:24,733
We are embarking on something
817
00:38:24,772 --> 00:38:26,992
that is much bigger than we've ever embarked on before.
818
00:38:28,863 --> 00:38:29,823
Where's the fight?
819
00:38:30,778 --> 00:38:31,738
On its way.
820
00:38:35,870 --> 00:38:38,050
It's a collaborative thing
where you've got
821
00:38:38,089 --> 00:38:39,439
that many people pooling
their talent together.
822
00:38:39,482 --> 00:38:41,662
That's really something
to enjoy.
823
00:38:41,702 --> 00:38:43,882
I am Spider-Man.Dr. Strange.
824
00:38:43,921 --> 00:38:46,101
There was sort of
a camaraderie between us.
825
00:38:46,141 --> 00:38:47,971
They all make each other
better in the scenes.
826
00:38:48,665 --> 00:38:49,575
PETER: Who are you?
827
00:38:50,624 --> 00:38:52,154
We're the Avengers, man.
828
00:38:53,670 --> 00:38:54,980
THANOS: The end is near.
829
00:38:56,499 --> 00:38:57,459
There's never been
anything like this.
830
00:38:57,979 --> 00:38:59,199
Ready?
831
00:38:59,241 --> 00:38:59,981
Let's go.
832
00:39:01,939 --> 00:39:03,379
FEIGE: It's fun putting people
833
00:39:03,419 --> 00:39:05,249
who have no business being on the same planet together...
834
00:39:05,290 --> 00:39:07,640
This is a friend of mine.[GRUNTING]
835
00:39:07,684 --> 00:39:09,164
...much less,
the same room together.
836
00:39:09,207 --> 00:39:10,947
I am Groot.
837
00:39:11,732 --> 00:39:13,692
I am Steve Rogers.
838
00:39:13,734 --> 00:39:17,134
FEIGE: The amount of actors
in this film is staggering.
839
00:39:17,172 --> 00:39:18,482
How much for the gun?Not for sale.
840
00:39:19,391 --> 00:39:21,261
Okay. How much for the arm?
841
00:39:21,306 --> 00:39:23,696
Just look around.
It's like, "Oh, wow.
842
00:39:23,744 --> 00:39:24,834
"There's all this potential."
843
00:39:28,662 --> 00:39:29,792
Thank you
for standing with us.
844
00:39:31,969 --> 00:39:34,839
Everybody knows this has
all been leading to something.
Well, this is it.
845
00:39:38,454 --> 00:39:39,194
[SHOUTS IN XHOSA]
846
00:39:42,763 --> 00:39:46,293
Everybody wants the characters
uniting for a big battle.
847
00:39:46,331 --> 00:39:47,071
PROXIMA MIDNIGHT:
You'll die alone.
848
00:39:48,246 --> 00:39:49,156
BLACK WIDOW: She's not alone.
849
00:39:51,598 --> 00:39:53,208
That's why
we make these movies.
850
00:39:53,251 --> 00:39:54,511
That, to us, is the fun.
851
00:39:54,557 --> 00:39:55,647
You're an Avenger now.
852
00:39:55,689 --> 00:39:57,129
Wakanda forever!
853
00:40:18,494 --> 00:40:22,544
GAMORA:
The entire time I knew him,
he only ever had one goal.
854
00:40:24,892 --> 00:40:26,422
To bring balance
to the universe
855
00:40:28,243 --> 00:40:29,593
by wiping out
half of all life.
856
00:40:32,856 --> 00:40:34,376
He kills people
planet by planet,
857
00:40:36,512 --> 00:40:37,822
massacre by massacre.
858
00:40:39,950 --> 00:40:41,040
Tell me his name again.
859
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:42,560
Thanos.
860
00:40:47,523 --> 00:40:50,443
Thanos has been lurking
in the shadows of our universe
861
00:40:51,570 --> 00:40:52,830
sinceAvengers one.
862
00:40:56,184 --> 00:40:58,534
We see a glimpse of him
inGuardians of the Galaxy.
863
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:03,410
I will bathe the star ways
in your blood.
864
00:41:03,452 --> 00:41:06,282
FEIGE: We see a tiny glimpse of him at the end ofAge of Ultron.
865
00:41:07,238 --> 00:41:09,408
He has had his hand
866
00:41:09,458 --> 00:41:13,458
in every action
that has occurred
on a grand level in the MCU,
867
00:41:15,377 --> 00:41:19,897
all surrounding his desire to obtain these Infinity Stones.
868
00:41:19,947 --> 00:41:22,777
Someone has been playing
an intricate game
and has made pawns of us.
869
00:41:24,255 --> 00:41:26,685
GAMORA: If he gets
all the Infinity Stones,
870
00:41:26,736 --> 00:41:28,646
he can wipe out
half the universe
871
00:41:31,698 --> 00:41:33,308
with the snap of his fingers.
872
00:41:35,571 --> 00:41:36,571
Just like that.
873
00:41:38,313 --> 00:41:41,753
The Stones are spread out
throughout the franchises.
874
00:41:41,795 --> 00:41:44,965
We're building
every one of them into
this epic, colossal event.
875
00:41:46,277 --> 00:41:47,887
STARK: So, this is it?
876
00:41:47,931 --> 00:41:48,981
It's all been
leading to this.
877
00:41:54,372 --> 00:41:57,032
Josh Brolin is bringing
a new iconic villain to life.
878
00:41:59,769 --> 00:42:02,899
Thanos is a very
complex character.
879
00:42:02,946 --> 00:42:06,856
What he's doing,
from his point of view,
is a very positive thing.
880
00:42:10,911 --> 00:42:12,651
He's basically
an eco-terrorist,
881
00:42:12,695 --> 00:42:16,825
and he wants to eliminate
50% of the universe
to save the other 50%.
882
00:42:22,574 --> 00:42:25,194
We wanted to tell a story
about a character
883
00:42:25,229 --> 00:42:29,839
with a really complex
and empathetic interior life.
884
00:42:29,886 --> 00:42:33,366
And there's not a lot of
actors that can give you
both of those things.
885
00:42:33,411 --> 00:42:37,151
D'ESPOSITO: Josh Brolin brings a reality to the character.
886
00:42:37,198 --> 00:42:40,808
He's wearing that mocap suit,
he's wearing
motion capture cameras.
887
00:42:40,854 --> 00:42:42,424
The performance
is coming through,
888
00:42:42,464 --> 00:42:46,424
not only in his gestures, in his face, but in his eyes.
889
00:42:46,468 --> 00:42:50,168
VICTORIA ALONSO:
There's about 2,900 visual
effects shots in the movie.
890
00:42:50,211 --> 00:42:52,341
We wanted to make it
as photographic as possible.
891
00:42:54,171 --> 00:42:56,301
And I think that that's
the most important part.
892
00:42:56,347 --> 00:42:57,167
[SCREAMING]
893
00:43:02,963 --> 00:43:04,533
Oh, my God.
894
00:43:04,573 --> 00:43:05,843
MANTIS: What happened?
895
00:43:07,794 --> 00:43:09,804
GAMORA: Death follows him
like a shadow.
896
00:43:11,101 --> 00:43:12,761
That's who Thanos is.
897
00:43:14,278 --> 00:43:15,888
You seem to know
a great deal about Thanos.
898
00:43:16,890 --> 00:43:19,720
Gamora is
the daughter of Thanos.
899
00:43:21,677 --> 00:43:25,067
Infinity Warreveals
this whole new world
900
00:43:25,115 --> 00:43:28,725
that Nebula and Gamora
have been running away
from for years.
901
00:43:35,473 --> 00:43:36,303
GAMORA: Nebula!
902
00:43:39,086 --> 00:43:42,566
THANOS: Some time ago,
your sister snuck aboard
this ship to kill me.
903
00:43:43,481 --> 00:43:44,441
So I brought her here.
904
00:43:45,309 --> 00:43:46,879
To talk.
905
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,230
His relationship with Gamora,
it's quite emotional.
906
00:43:50,445 --> 00:43:51,445
[SCREAMING]
907
00:43:55,711 --> 00:43:58,501
I ignored my destiny once.
908
00:43:58,540 --> 00:44:00,060
I cannot do that again.
909
00:44:00,934 --> 00:44:04,424
Even for you.
910
00:44:04,459 --> 00:44:07,159
D'ESPOSITO: What makes Thanos so great is his conviction.
911
00:44:07,201 --> 00:44:08,641
This is the only solution.
912
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,680
He's seen it firsthand
on his planet.
913
00:44:13,076 --> 00:44:14,596
THANOS:
Titan was like most planets.
914
00:44:14,643 --> 00:44:17,563
And when we faced extinction,
I offered a solution.
915
00:44:18,212 --> 00:44:19,432
Genocide.
916
00:44:19,474 --> 00:44:21,044
What I predicted
came to pass.
917
00:44:23,173 --> 00:44:25,003
Congratulations,
you're a prophet.
918
00:44:25,567 --> 00:44:26,607
I'm a survivor.
919
00:44:33,618 --> 00:44:38,058
Tony knows just by the way
that Bruce Banner
describes Thanos,
920
00:44:38,101 --> 00:44:39,061
it's a different game now.
921
00:44:41,278 --> 00:44:42,498
BANNER: He sent Loki.
922
00:44:42,540 --> 00:44:44,500
The attack on New York,
that's him.
923
00:44:46,762 --> 00:44:50,462
He has the biggest army
in the universe,
and he is not gonna stop.
924
00:44:53,073 --> 00:44:55,423
Just his sheer force
is something
925
00:44:55,466 --> 00:44:57,246
that none of the Avengers
has ever encountered before.
926
00:44:59,644 --> 00:45:02,004
Thanos has been
inside my head
for six years.
927
00:45:02,038 --> 00:45:04,428
So I say we take
the fight to him.
928
00:45:04,475 --> 00:45:06,125
JOE: Heroes are only
as good as their villain,
929
00:45:06,173 --> 00:45:08,093
but if the Avengers
were built for anything,
930
00:45:08,131 --> 00:45:09,391
it's for stopping Thanos
from completing his goal.
931
00:45:22,015 --> 00:45:26,715
THANOS: Fun really isn't
something one considers
when balancing the universe,
932
00:45:26,758 --> 00:45:29,938
but this does put a smile
on my face.
933
00:45:29,979 --> 00:45:31,069
Oh, man.
934
00:45:31,111 --> 00:45:32,111
[GRUNTS]
935
00:45:39,249 --> 00:45:41,079
Thanos is the greatest villain
936
00:45:41,121 --> 00:45:42,511
in the history
of Marvel Cinematic Universe.
937
00:45:42,557 --> 00:45:43,647
[SCREAMS]
938
00:45:46,387 --> 00:45:50,427
The hardest choices require
the strongest wills.
939
00:45:53,394 --> 00:45:57,314
I think you'll find our will
equal to yours.
940
00:46:01,010 --> 00:46:01,970
[SCREAMS]
941
00:46:06,581 --> 00:46:09,711
Imagine if
our heroes all lost.
942
00:46:11,020 --> 00:46:13,540
You should have gone
for the head.
943
00:46:14,937 --> 00:46:15,937
No!
944
00:46:18,332 --> 00:46:20,252
The Marvel Cinematic Universe
will never be the same.
945
00:46:22,945 --> 00:46:23,945
Oh, God.
946
00:46:27,558 --> 00:46:28,298
He did it.
947
00:46:34,130 --> 00:46:35,260
What did it cost?
948
00:46:36,959 --> 00:46:37,959
Everything.
949
00:47:06,641 --> 00:47:09,301
Avengers 3is by far and away
the most intense
of all three films.
950
00:47:10,384 --> 00:47:12,174
[PEOPLE SCREAMING]
951
00:47:14,953 --> 00:47:18,613
Part of the reason why
we were drawn to tell
the story of Civil War
952
00:47:18,653 --> 00:47:20,443
and one of the reasons
why we thought
953
00:47:20,481 --> 00:47:23,611
it was such a great place
to leave the Avengers divided
954
00:47:23,658 --> 00:47:26,618
was because we knew
the greatest threat
they would ever face
955
00:47:26,661 --> 00:47:27,971
would be coming in Thanos.
956
00:47:31,753 --> 00:47:34,633
For storytellers,
you want your heroes
to be at their lowest point
957
00:47:34,669 --> 00:47:36,019
when they meet
their worst threat.
958
00:47:37,498 --> 00:47:40,198
The hardest choices require
the strongest wills.
959
00:47:41,632 --> 00:47:46,332
I think you'll find our will
equal to yours.
960
00:47:51,425 --> 00:47:53,245
JOE: This film was taking
all the characters
961
00:47:53,296 --> 00:47:55,336
from all the
different franchises
962
00:47:55,385 --> 00:47:57,815
and putting them together
in one movie
for the first time.
963
00:47:57,866 --> 00:48:01,696
It's about as massive
a production
as you could mount.
964
00:48:01,739 --> 00:48:04,129
We need a plan.
If all we come at him
with is plucky attitude...
965
00:48:04,177 --> 00:48:05,657
Don't call us plucky.
966
00:48:05,700 --> 00:48:07,620
We don't know what it means.
967
00:48:07,658 --> 00:48:10,838
We were in production
all year on Infinity War.
968
00:48:10,879 --> 00:48:13,489
It's the largest
global shoot
we've ever had.
969
00:48:13,534 --> 00:48:16,544
Joe and Anthony have
the stamina to do two films,
back-to-back.
970
00:48:16,580 --> 00:48:17,970
It's very difficult.
971
00:48:18,016 --> 00:48:20,106
Moving on to a clean pass.Okay, back to the other set.
972
00:48:20,149 --> 00:48:23,199
Something this big
isn't daunting to them.
973
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:26,679
And they're the
perfect combination
of structure and freedom.
974
00:48:26,721 --> 00:48:28,331
Do what you want to do
on this first take,
975
00:48:28,375 --> 00:48:30,855
and then we'll start
to tweak it from there.
976
00:48:30,899 --> 00:48:36,209
The Russos elevated
the franchise,
even past its inception.
977
00:48:37,645 --> 00:48:39,385
Who are you guys?
978
00:48:39,429 --> 00:48:41,389
[ALL LAUGHING]
979
00:48:41,779 --> 00:48:43,389
Sorry.
980
00:48:43,433 --> 00:48:46,003
We spent a lot of time
with Joe and Anthony,
Markus and McFeely
981
00:48:46,044 --> 00:48:49,964
creating storylines
that really allow these
characters their moments.
982
00:48:50,005 --> 00:48:51,305
Action!
983
00:48:51,354 --> 00:48:54,404
If he gets his hands
on all six stones, Tony...
984
00:48:54,444 --> 00:48:57,714
He could destroy life
on a scale
hitherto undreamt of.
985
00:48:57,752 --> 00:49:00,152
Did you seriously just say
"hitherto undreamt of"?
986
00:49:00,189 --> 00:49:02,449
You really look
at how all the characters
interweave
987
00:49:02,496 --> 00:49:04,536
into the main arc.
988
00:49:04,585 --> 00:49:07,275
ANTHONY:
The connective tissue that
pulls our entire MCU together
989
00:49:07,327 --> 00:49:10,717
is the fact that the Stones
are spread out throughout
the franchises.
990
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:14,640
JOE: The exciting aspect of the film is that
991
00:49:14,682 --> 00:49:16,732
we're going to take
all of these characters
992
00:49:16,771 --> 00:49:18,991
from different franchises in the Marvel Universe
993
00:49:19,034 --> 00:49:21,694
and we're going to put them
together to stop Thanos
from completing his goal.
994
00:49:24,344 --> 00:49:26,304
It takes months
to plan sequences
like Titan.
995
00:49:32,482 --> 00:49:36,402
Titan, we shot
that exclusively
on a sound stage.
996
00:49:39,837 --> 00:49:40,927
DAN DELEEUW:
Beautiful set built
by Charlie Wood,
997
00:49:40,969 --> 00:49:42,359
our production designer.
998
00:49:42,405 --> 00:49:44,665
There's green screen
in the background.
999
00:49:44,712 --> 00:49:47,582
All that extension will be
from plates that we went
to Chile and shot.
1000
00:49:47,628 --> 00:49:50,938
VICTORIA ALONSO:
This entire movie
is one big CG scene.
1001
00:49:50,979 --> 00:49:53,679
The environment is CG,
the weapons are CG,
1002
00:49:53,721 --> 00:49:55,681
every shot is dense in layers.
1003
00:49:57,899 --> 00:50:00,159
We were pushing colors
in both locations,
1004
00:50:00,206 --> 00:50:02,596
more green and yellows
in Wakanda,
1005
00:50:02,643 --> 00:50:06,393
and more orange hues
and red hues in Titan,
1006
00:50:06,429 --> 00:50:09,169
so that we could
distinguish the two
as you're intercutting them.
1007
00:50:09,215 --> 00:50:13,175
It was a constant challenge
to see, how do we keep
this photographic enough?
1008
00:50:13,219 --> 00:50:15,179
We wanted to have
that apocalyptic look
1009
00:50:15,221 --> 00:50:17,091
that both Joe
and Anthony wanted.
1010
00:50:18,267 --> 00:50:20,487
That it was the end of an era.
1011
00:50:23,620 --> 00:50:26,280
Heroes are only as good
as their villain.
1012
00:50:26,319 --> 00:50:29,409
And we spent
a lot of time and energy
on this one
1013
00:50:29,452 --> 00:50:33,462
making sure that Thanos
was the most intense
and the best villain
1014
00:50:33,500 --> 00:50:35,240
that the Marvel Universe
has seen.
1015
00:50:35,284 --> 00:50:37,464
We had had
an initial meeting,
me and the Russos,
1016
00:50:37,504 --> 00:50:39,594
and it was incredibly helpful.
1017
00:50:39,636 --> 00:50:42,546
I felt like they cared deeply.
1018
00:50:43,858 --> 00:50:45,158
MATT AITKEN:
Thanos is entirely digital,
1019
00:50:45,207 --> 00:50:47,907
so we have Josh Brolin
performing him on stage.
1020
00:50:47,949 --> 00:50:51,429
SWEN GILLBERG: We record
all the positions
of all their joints,
1021
00:50:51,474 --> 00:50:53,394
and we record their motion.
1022
00:50:53,433 --> 00:50:56,833
We've dotted up his face,
and basically
those two cameras give us
1023
00:50:56,871 --> 00:51:00,401
a three-dimensional solid
of his face
in very fine detail.
1024
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:02,700
The performance
is coming through,
1025
00:51:02,746 --> 00:51:05,396
not only in his gestures
and in his face,
but in his eyes.
1026
00:51:06,315 --> 00:51:07,875
You're much more of a Thanos.
1027
00:51:10,667 --> 00:51:12,707
I take it the Maw is dead.
1028
00:51:15,193 --> 00:51:18,243
This day
extracts a heavy toll.
1029
00:51:18,284 --> 00:51:20,554
The battle between
Thanos and Dr. Strange,
1030
00:51:20,590 --> 00:51:22,240
that was all previz.
1031
00:51:22,288 --> 00:51:24,638
And the way
we work through that
1032
00:51:24,681 --> 00:51:28,211
is probably that sequence
was twice as long
as it ended up in the movie,
1033
00:51:28,250 --> 00:51:29,860
so we shrunk it.
1034
00:51:29,904 --> 00:51:32,734
Once we agree
on what that sequence is,
1035
00:51:32,776 --> 00:51:35,036
the only element
that is missing
from a sequence like that
1036
00:51:35,083 --> 00:51:37,003
is Benedict Cumberbatch.
1037
00:51:37,041 --> 00:51:39,041
We'll then go shoot
Benedict Cumberbatch,
1038
00:51:39,087 --> 00:51:42,177
but everything else is
already turned over
to the VFX vendors,
1039
00:51:42,220 --> 00:51:45,660
so they can get to work
on Thanos' side of it
1040
00:51:45,702 --> 00:51:47,272
and everything else
around Dr. Strange.
1041
00:51:50,881 --> 00:51:52,101
You're full of tricks, wizard.
1042
00:51:53,362 --> 00:51:54,802
Action sequences
are very difficult.
1043
00:51:55,321 --> 00:51:56,891
[GRUNTS]
1044
00:51:56,931 --> 00:51:59,631
Every action sequence
is used
to illuminate character,
1045
00:51:59,673 --> 00:52:01,683
who the character is,
what they're made of.
1046
00:52:03,459 --> 00:52:06,639
You never once used
your greatest weapon.
1047
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:07,640
[STRAINING]
1048
00:52:09,073 --> 00:52:10,293
A fake.
1049
00:52:13,948 --> 00:52:19,078
Those battles usually start
with either the stunt team
or the VFX team.
1050
00:52:19,127 --> 00:52:20,867
Yes, sir!
1051
00:52:20,911 --> 00:52:23,781
We owe it to Sam Hargrave
to create these
amazing stunts for Titan.
1052
00:52:29,746 --> 00:52:32,396
We got a room full
of movie stars.
1053
00:52:32,445 --> 00:52:34,445
We've got three
franchise-carrying
actors here.
1054
00:52:34,490 --> 00:52:36,490
This is our first day.
1055
00:52:36,536 --> 00:52:40,576
Here we are in Pinewood
in Atlanta, and it's actually
pretty unbelievable.
1056
00:52:40,627 --> 00:52:44,017
You can actually engage
in this collaborative,
creative conversation
1057
00:52:44,065 --> 00:52:45,675
about what should this
look like.
1058
00:52:48,765 --> 00:52:51,155
We would show them
our previz material
1059
00:52:51,202 --> 00:52:53,072
just to let them know, like,
these are the certain things
1060
00:52:53,117 --> 00:52:57,247
that you would be working with to get to this final product.
1061
00:52:57,295 --> 00:53:00,515
It's going to look awesome
when Chris does it.
1062
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:01,870
[ALL CHUCKLE]
1063
00:53:05,652 --> 00:53:07,572
JOE: Every character,
every hero involved
1064
00:53:07,610 --> 00:53:11,090
has to use
the highest level
of their power
1065
00:53:11,135 --> 00:53:13,265
just to stay on the
battlefield with him.
1066
00:53:13,311 --> 00:53:16,361
The big two.
Thanos versus Iron Man.
This is the showdown.
1067
00:53:16,402 --> 00:53:17,882
This is what it's all about.
1068
00:53:17,925 --> 00:53:20,055
This is what
the whole movie's
leading up to right here.
1069
00:53:20,101 --> 00:53:22,631
We've got
Robert Downey, Jr.,
Josh Brolin,
1070
00:53:22,669 --> 00:53:24,319
going hand-to-hand,
right here!
1071
00:53:24,366 --> 00:53:25,716
THANOS: Stark.
1072
00:53:26,542 --> 00:53:27,852
How do you know my name?
1073
00:53:28,631 --> 00:53:31,031
I know your soul.
1074
00:53:31,068 --> 00:53:34,118
It is much like mine,
cursed with knowledge.
1075
00:53:34,158 --> 00:53:35,858
My only curse is you.
1076
00:53:35,899 --> 00:53:38,859
Iron Man has been battling
for six years now
1077
00:53:38,902 --> 00:53:41,122
the shadow of Thanos.
1078
00:53:41,165 --> 00:53:42,595
He has been waiting
for this moment.
1079
00:53:44,865 --> 00:53:46,035
[PANTING]
1080
00:53:47,824 --> 00:53:49,744
All that for a drop of blood.
1081
00:53:53,264 --> 00:53:54,444
[GASPS]
1082
00:54:03,013 --> 00:54:05,583
We knew we were going
to a place in the story
1083
00:54:05,625 --> 00:54:07,625
that audiences
wouldn't expect.
1084
00:54:07,670 --> 00:54:10,190
And then I drive him
back like this,
1085
00:54:10,238 --> 00:54:11,628
pin him down like that...
1086
00:54:16,462 --> 00:54:18,382
Yes or no?Yeah, I like it.
1087
00:54:18,420 --> 00:54:21,900
It was our intent
in this movie to play
against your expectations.
1088
00:54:21,945 --> 00:54:23,115
MAN: Action!
1089
00:54:23,164 --> 00:54:24,514
[GROANING]
1090
00:54:24,557 --> 00:54:25,987
You have my respect, Stark.
1091
00:54:28,082 --> 00:54:30,742
When I'm done, half of
humanity will still be alive.
1092
00:54:33,479 --> 00:54:34,959
[GROANS]
1093
00:54:35,002 --> 00:54:37,272
The movie
sort of keeps twisting
at the end there
1094
00:54:37,308 --> 00:54:40,568
in ways that you can't believe that it's going one step beyond,
1095
00:54:40,616 --> 00:54:43,096
and that the fate
of our characters
1096
00:54:43,140 --> 00:54:45,230
and the fate
of the universe
are still at play.
1097
00:54:45,273 --> 00:54:47,193
Mr. Stark?
I don't feel so good.
1098
00:54:49,407 --> 00:54:52,847
Peter Parker uses
all of the strength
that he has as a hero
1099
00:54:52,889 --> 00:54:54,589
to fight against disappearing.
1100
00:54:54,630 --> 00:54:56,720
You're all right.
You're all right.
1101
00:54:56,763 --> 00:54:58,773
JOE: It allows him
to last longer
than some of the others.
1102
00:55:01,724 --> 00:55:05,474
The emotional experience
that the characters
are going through
1103
00:55:05,511 --> 00:55:08,731
as they experience that
is where the power lies.
1104
00:55:08,775 --> 00:55:12,645
Please, I don't want to go.
I don't want to go.
1105
00:55:12,692 --> 00:55:15,912
DOWNEY JR.: The Russos realized how you had to bring it to the next level
1106
00:55:15,956 --> 00:55:17,866
and also have it have
a great surprise.
1107
00:55:18,524 --> 00:55:19,614
[SOFTLY] I'm sorry.
1108
00:55:27,184 --> 00:55:29,064
D'ESPOSITO: Never seen our Avengers really lose,
1109
00:55:29,099 --> 00:55:31,929
and they lost,
and it's quite emotional
to see that.
1110
00:55:32,755 --> 00:55:34,495
Where is he?
1111
00:55:34,540 --> 00:55:36,890
McFEELY: It's a big,
epic movie,
1112
00:55:36,933 --> 00:55:40,243
and stakes are high,
with characters that,
hopefully,
1113
00:55:40,284 --> 00:55:42,644
because since 2008
you started to love
these people,
1114
00:55:42,678 --> 00:55:44,328
you really care about.
1115
00:55:44,375 --> 00:55:45,805
And that's the
grand experiment.
1116
00:55:47,683 --> 00:55:48,903
Did we just lose?
1117
00:55:50,947 --> 00:55:53,467
Rarely, especially
in Avengers 3,
1118
00:55:53,515 --> 00:55:57,685
do commercial movies
go to the place
that this film goes to.
1119
00:56:00,653 --> 00:56:01,833
Quill?
1120
00:56:05,745 --> 00:56:06,955
Oh, man.
1121
00:56:08,530 --> 00:56:10,010
Why would you do that?
1122
00:56:13,709 --> 00:56:15,019
DR. STRANGE:
We're in the endgame now.
1123
00:56:41,650 --> 00:56:44,090
You murdered
half the planet.
1124
00:56:44,131 --> 00:56:48,571
A small price to pay
for salvation.
1125
00:56:48,614 --> 00:56:50,754
JOE RUSSO: The level of
ambition withAvengers 3
is unprecedented.
1126
00:56:50,790 --> 00:56:53,010
But that was the reason
that we wanted to do it.
1127
00:56:53,053 --> 00:56:55,363
ROBERT DOWNEY JR.:
Infinity War is nuts.
1128
00:56:55,403 --> 00:56:59,023
The difficulty in executing it
was so well thought out.
1129
00:56:59,059 --> 00:57:02,369
A lot of things have to
kind of fit into place,
1130
00:57:02,410 --> 00:57:03,980
and that's just
a tricky target to hit.
1131
00:57:04,020 --> 00:57:06,200
This is D-Day, man.
1132
00:57:06,240 --> 00:57:08,720
People don't understand what
they're walking into
with this movie.
1133
00:57:08,764 --> 00:57:10,904
This is not going to end well for a lot of people.
1134
00:57:10,940 --> 00:57:12,550
KAREN GILLAN:
The stakes are very high,
1135
00:57:12,594 --> 00:57:14,604
and we are going
to say goodbye to people.
1136
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:17,340
The whole thing
is just gigantic.
1137
00:57:17,381 --> 00:57:20,991
Through the experience of
working with Markus
and McFeely on Civil War,
1138
00:57:21,037 --> 00:57:23,387
we knew that there was
a culmination coming.
1139
00:57:23,431 --> 00:57:25,481
But how do you combine
all these different tones,
1140
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:26,830
all these
different characters?
1141
00:57:26,869 --> 00:57:28,779
And I think the way
we end up balancing it
1142
00:57:28,828 --> 00:57:33,348
is we always try to ground it
in an emotional truth
for the character.
1143
00:57:33,397 --> 00:57:35,047
If we take out the stone...
1144
00:57:35,095 --> 00:57:36,565
there's still a whole lot
of Vision left.
1145
00:57:36,618 --> 00:57:38,448
Perhaps the best parts.
1146
00:57:38,489 --> 00:57:39,749
Can we do that?
1147
00:57:40,404 --> 00:57:41,414
Not me, not here.
1148
00:57:44,713 --> 00:57:45,673
I know somewhere.
1149
00:57:47,803 --> 00:57:49,683
It felt like
there's a lot of substance
1150
00:57:49,718 --> 00:57:51,718
behind them coming to Wakanda.
1151
00:57:51,764 --> 00:57:54,164
We've seen Wakanda
as a powerful nation,
1152
00:57:54,201 --> 00:57:57,031
but we've also seen it
have to battle with itself.
1153
00:57:57,073 --> 00:58:00,823
And so being a part of this
major moment for the Avengers,
1154
00:58:00,860 --> 00:58:04,650
it felt like very significant
storylines merging.
1155
00:58:04,690 --> 00:58:07,260
ROGERS: Seems like I'm always
thanking you for something.
1156
00:58:07,301 --> 00:58:11,351
I think the men really respect
each other and have similar
moral compasses,
1157
00:58:11,392 --> 00:58:14,222
and are eager to be there
when the other person's
in need.
1158
00:58:14,264 --> 00:58:15,704
He just happens to have
a whole army.
1159
00:58:16,353 --> 00:58:17,313
Where's the fight?
1160
00:58:17,354 --> 00:58:18,834
On its way.
1161
00:58:20,227 --> 00:58:23,667
For our 19th movie,
ten years in the making,
1162
00:58:23,709 --> 00:58:27,099
the Russo brothers really
wanted to create
this big, epic battle
1163
00:58:27,147 --> 00:58:30,447
that was worth the biggest,
baddest villain and his army.
1164
00:58:30,498 --> 00:58:33,808
Probably the most physically
challenging thing
that we've ever done
1165
00:58:33,849 --> 00:58:35,759
was execute
that Wakanda sequence.
1166
00:58:35,808 --> 00:58:38,458
The scope is gigantic
on this movie,
1167
00:58:38,506 --> 00:58:41,806
and it's the largest battle
that we've ever done.
1168
00:58:41,857 --> 00:58:43,947
Thank you
for standing with us.
1169
00:58:43,990 --> 00:58:45,600
[SPEAKS XHOSA]
1170
00:58:45,643 --> 00:58:48,123
[HELICOPTER BLADES WHIRRING]
1171
00:58:48,168 --> 00:58:52,688
We shot Wakanda
in a practical location.
It was a big ranch in Georgia
1172
00:58:52,738 --> 00:58:56,308
that we transformed
into the fields of Wakanda.
1173
00:58:56,350 --> 00:58:57,790
DAN DeLEEUW: Working with
the Russo brothers,
1174
00:58:57,830 --> 00:58:59,610
the main theme is, they want
to keep everything grounded.
1175
00:58:59,657 --> 00:59:02,527
So art department's gone in
and basically built a river
1176
00:59:02,573 --> 00:59:05,663
and has dressed in a lot of
trees that are more indigenous
to Africa.
1177
00:59:05,707 --> 00:59:09,277
Charlie Wood and his
art department actually carved
an artificial river
1178
00:59:09,319 --> 00:59:11,279
through the center of this field,
1179
00:59:11,321 --> 00:59:14,631
and we had a gigantic pump that could do like 30,000 gallons a minute.
1180
00:59:14,672 --> 00:59:16,332
It was very elaborate.
1181
00:59:16,370 --> 00:59:18,330
We want the scope to be huge.
1182
00:59:18,372 --> 00:59:21,592
So what we're doing is, we're using a set as the center of the war scene,
1183
00:59:21,636 --> 00:59:24,066
and then anything you see off in the distance we're actually replacing
1184
00:59:24,117 --> 00:59:26,287
with plates and textures
from Africa itself.
1185
00:59:26,336 --> 00:59:28,686
We actually had to work
in tandem with Ryan Coogler.
1186
00:59:28,730 --> 00:59:32,820
He and his team had
maps of Wakanda. That was
very helpful to us,
1187
00:59:32,865 --> 00:59:34,995
so that we could look
at where we wanted
to place the battle,
1188
00:59:35,041 --> 00:59:36,611
understand strategy.
1189
00:59:36,651 --> 00:59:38,701
So it's literally
like doing a Jenga puzzle.
1190
00:59:38,740 --> 00:59:40,790
[CHANTING IN XHOSA]
1191
00:59:42,788 --> 00:59:46,098
The way the Russos work,
they're willing to try
different things.
1192
00:59:46,139 --> 00:59:50,579
There was a lot of input,
and we could share how
we would express ourselves,
1193
00:59:50,621 --> 00:59:52,581
what war cries we use
as Wakandans.
1194
00:59:52,623 --> 00:59:54,543
We have another one
that's more aggressive
1195
00:59:54,582 --> 00:59:55,982
Okay, what's that one?
1196
00:59:56,018 --> 00:59:58,628
It's mie effa,
which means "win them."
1197
00:59:58,673 --> 01:00:00,683
Sie effameans
"separate them."
1198
01:00:00,718 --> 01:00:02,498
And they just go...
[GRUNTING]
1199
01:00:02,546 --> 01:00:04,286
You get
the actors involved,
1200
01:00:04,331 --> 01:00:05,811
and of course they know
their characters better
than anybody.
1201
01:00:05,854 --> 01:00:07,814
They have great input.
1202
01:00:07,856 --> 01:00:09,896
When you say it,
it's the greatest
1203
01:00:09,945 --> 01:00:11,765
"Wakanda forever"
you've ever said,
1204
01:00:11,817 --> 01:00:13,297
because this could be it.
1205
01:00:13,340 --> 01:00:15,820
You know, it became sort of
the cadence of the whole set.
1206
01:00:15,864 --> 01:00:19,094
People walking around saying,
"Wakanda forever!"
1207
01:00:19,128 --> 01:00:20,428
Wakanda forever!
1208
01:00:20,477 --> 01:00:22,997
[ALL SHOUTING]
1209
01:00:23,045 --> 01:00:27,825
We're gonna clash
the Wakandan army
with the Outriders.
1210
01:00:27,876 --> 01:00:31,526
Where good meets evil, and they battle.
1211
01:00:31,575 --> 01:00:34,745
It was really amazing
to see the vastness
of the battlefield.
1212
01:00:34,796 --> 01:00:37,576
It made sense that this is
the sort of battle
that could end the universe.
1213
01:00:37,625 --> 01:00:40,495
You definitely kind of catch
yourself looking around
1214
01:00:40,541 --> 01:00:41,541
and you have goosebumps.
1215
01:00:42,543 --> 01:00:44,203
We've got the Wakandan army,
1216
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:47,420
so we have 70 extras here on set, and then stunt people.
1217
01:00:47,461 --> 01:00:49,901
We'll do digital versions
of those, so we can create
the art for those 70
1218
01:00:49,942 --> 01:00:51,642
to take them out to about 500.
1219
01:00:51,682 --> 01:00:54,602
Then we've got the Outriders, which are Thanos' beasts.
1220
01:00:54,642 --> 01:00:55,992
There's 10,000 of those.
1221
01:00:56,035 --> 01:00:58,035
[SNARLING]
1222
01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:00,390
VICTORIA ALONSO:
There was a lot of thinking
into the texture,
1223
01:01:00,430 --> 01:01:02,960
what they felt like,
what they looked like,
what the teeth looked like.
1224
01:01:02,998 --> 01:01:04,738
They had to pose
a real threat.
1225
01:01:05,218 --> 01:01:06,348
[GRUNTS]
1226
01:01:06,393 --> 01:01:07,743
[ALIENS YELPING]
1227
01:01:10,049 --> 01:01:11,829
Why was she up there
all this time?
1228
01:01:11,877 --> 01:01:15,317
A lot of our action is based
around character decisions
and moments.
1229
01:01:15,358 --> 01:01:17,708
Less punch/jab/cross/uppercut,
1230
01:01:17,752 --> 01:01:19,752
but it's more of the things
1231
01:01:19,797 --> 01:01:21,187
of, "What are you going to
remember about
the character?"
1232
01:01:21,234 --> 01:01:22,584
Combination attacks
working together.
1233
01:01:22,626 --> 01:01:25,886
That's our goal,
it's to give you moments
and less choreography.
1234
01:01:25,934 --> 01:01:30,334
One of avorite moments
is when Proxima tells
Scarlet Witch...
1235
01:01:30,373 --> 01:01:32,993
He'll die alone. As will you.
1236
01:01:33,028 --> 01:01:34,418
She's not alone.
1237
01:01:34,464 --> 01:01:37,604
In a real,
real moment of threat,
1238
01:01:37,641 --> 01:01:40,431
there's two other women there, standing by each other.
1239
01:01:40,470 --> 01:01:43,560
[YELLING][ALL GRUNTING]
1240
01:01:43,604 --> 01:01:47,044
It's really great to see
that the audiences
are embracing
1241
01:01:47,086 --> 01:01:49,346
really strong female superheroines.
1242
01:01:51,394 --> 01:01:54,964
That is one of the biggest
cheer moments in the film.
1243
01:01:56,660 --> 01:01:57,920
[YELLS]
1244
01:01:59,794 --> 01:02:03,234
Coming into Infinity War,
admittedly I was
a little hesitant
1245
01:02:03,276 --> 01:02:08,056
because I just was so
protective of what myself
and Taika sort of built.
1246
01:02:08,107 --> 01:02:10,277
And I said, "Well, you know,
it's not
the old Thor anymore,"
1247
01:02:10,326 --> 01:02:11,846
and Joe said, "No, no, we know."
1248
01:02:11,893 --> 01:02:13,293
And Anthony said, "Yeah, we get it,
1249
01:02:13,329 --> 01:02:15,199
"but we've got something different in mind as well."
1250
01:02:15,244 --> 01:02:17,074
And they were right. They had a whole new version of it,
1251
01:02:17,116 --> 01:02:21,026
and one that was equally
as enjoyable
as that last Thor film.
1252
01:02:21,076 --> 01:02:22,816
New haircut?
1253
01:02:22,860 --> 01:02:23,820
Notice you've copied
my beard.
1254
01:02:24,514 --> 01:02:25,994
Pretty good.
1255
01:02:26,038 --> 01:02:28,258
Evans was a bit off,
but I think
mine sounds good.
1256
01:02:28,301 --> 01:02:29,431
[LAUGHTER]
1257
01:02:31,695 --> 01:02:34,785
In Atlanta, you get days
like this, which are amazing,
1258
01:02:34,829 --> 01:02:37,049
that just resonate what we're
trying to get with Africa.
1259
01:02:37,092 --> 01:02:39,092
And other days
you'll get the rain.
1260
01:02:39,138 --> 01:02:40,048
[THUNDER RUMBLING]MAN: Oh, God.
1261
01:02:46,188 --> 01:02:48,318
ALONSO: We had a lot
of different weather issues.
1262
01:02:48,364 --> 01:02:52,634
We had rain, sun, fog,
cold, heat. We had it all.
1263
01:02:52,673 --> 01:02:54,983
TRAN: The weather was one of the biggest challenges,
1264
01:02:55,023 --> 01:02:59,113
because it would just be
pouring and there would be
mud just sliding down
1265
01:02:59,158 --> 01:03:02,198
as we're trying to get
our talent up to the field.
1266
01:03:02,248 --> 01:03:04,158
And it was incredible.
1267
01:03:04,206 --> 01:03:05,766
DeLEEUW: We do
the best we can.
1268
01:03:05,816 --> 01:03:08,596
We try to cover actors
for close-ups
and shoot the close-ups,
1269
01:03:08,645 --> 01:03:11,685
and then hopefully the next day we get a shot, you know, a day without rain.
1270
01:03:16,871 --> 01:03:18,611
TRAN: So when Thanos
shows up,
1271
01:03:18,655 --> 01:03:21,135
we really wanted to make this
the most powerful moment ever.
1272
01:03:21,832 --> 01:03:24,272
Eyes up, stay sharp.
1273
01:03:24,313 --> 01:03:26,493
The movie sort of keeps
twisting at the end there
1274
01:03:26,533 --> 01:03:29,283
in ways that you can't believe that it's going one step beyond,
1275
01:03:29,318 --> 01:03:31,708
and that the fate of our characters
1276
01:03:31,755 --> 01:03:33,145
and the fate of the universe
are still at play.
1277
01:03:35,368 --> 01:03:36,538
[SCREAMS]
1278
01:03:37,761 --> 01:03:39,201
In terms of our choices
1279
01:03:39,241 --> 01:03:42,901
about who Thanos would end up
eradicating with his snap,
1280
01:03:42,940 --> 01:03:44,900
it was very story focused.
1281
01:03:44,942 --> 01:03:49,162
How do we pay off each
individual character's
storyline most profoundly?
1282
01:03:49,208 --> 01:03:50,208
Steve?
1283
01:03:52,254 --> 01:03:54,604
The first person to go
is Bucky Barnes,
1284
01:03:54,648 --> 01:03:57,218
and it's shot from Captain America's perspective.
1285
01:03:57,259 --> 01:04:00,569
You know, we're watching Cap go through the experience of watching him go away.
1286
01:04:00,610 --> 01:04:03,920
We're watching Okoye,
whose number one mission it is
1287
01:04:03,961 --> 01:04:05,351
in life is to protect the king.
1288
01:04:05,398 --> 01:04:07,488
She watches the king go in front of her.
1289
01:04:07,530 --> 01:04:10,930
And to see those characters
react in those situations
1290
01:04:10,968 --> 01:04:13,358
is very powerful
and resonant.
1291
01:04:13,841 --> 01:04:16,061
Groot! No.
1292
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:19,280
Oh, God.
1293
01:04:19,325 --> 01:04:22,365
The blip-out sequence,
we had gathered
the whole entire talent there
1294
01:04:22,415 --> 01:04:24,195
circled around our directors,
1295
01:04:24,243 --> 01:04:26,423
and basically
revealed to them
that morning of,
1296
01:04:26,462 --> 01:04:29,772
when they came on set, that that scene was happening,
1297
01:04:29,813 --> 01:04:32,733
that some of them
were going to be,
you know, disappearing.
1298
01:04:32,773 --> 01:04:35,823
The audience is so good
at predicting stories
1299
01:04:35,863 --> 01:04:37,523
that even just
the smallest clue
1300
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:39,040
can tell them
where the film
is going to go.
1301
01:04:39,084 --> 01:04:40,744
So we worked really hard
to make sure
1302
01:04:40,781 --> 01:04:42,571
that none of the secrets
of the film leaked.
1303
01:04:42,609 --> 01:04:46,219
TRAN: This, by far, has been
the most top-secret movie
1304
01:04:46,265 --> 01:04:47,875
out of all
of the previous 18 movies.
1305
01:04:48,789 --> 01:04:49,879
Did you do it?
1306
01:04:52,097 --> 01:04:53,617
Yes.
1307
01:04:53,663 --> 01:04:57,323
It's about as massive
a production
as you can mount.
1308
01:04:57,363 --> 01:05:00,373
6,000 crew members
working on the movie,
spread all over the world.
1309
01:05:00,409 --> 01:05:03,799
This was so
brutally massive
as a movie.
1310
01:05:03,847 --> 01:05:06,237
There's almost 3,000 shots
in the film,
1311
01:05:06,285 --> 01:05:08,365
and there's about
2,900 visual effects shots.
1312
01:05:08,417 --> 01:05:11,377
So it's a puzzle.
It's a difficult one.
1313
01:05:11,420 --> 01:05:15,690
No one has ever assembled
a cast of this size
and this caliber.
1314
01:05:15,729 --> 01:05:20,299
So it was a completely unique
filmmaking experience
for everybody involved.
1315
01:05:20,342 --> 01:05:22,562
FEIGE: Of all the films
we've made,
1316
01:05:22,605 --> 01:05:25,565
Infinity War will have the greatest repercussions.
1317
01:05:25,608 --> 01:05:29,698
And, really, the only way
this film could be made
1318
01:05:29,743 --> 01:05:32,013
is in the hands
of Anthony and Joe Russo.
1319
01:05:32,049 --> 01:05:34,789
This production,
it has been a daunting task.
1320
01:05:34,835 --> 01:05:37,485
But we always knew that they're the people for the job.
1321
01:05:37,533 --> 01:05:41,623
I can't imagine trying
to tackle such a huge task.
1322
01:05:41,668 --> 01:05:44,368
But I had a lot of faith,
not in just Kevin Feige
and the people of Marvel,
1323
01:05:44,410 --> 01:05:47,540
but the Russos.
They're batting a thousand
in my opinion.
1324
01:05:47,587 --> 01:05:50,937
We thought on Civil War
that we had
12 big cast members.
1325
01:05:50,981 --> 01:05:52,421
How are we going to deal with all these characters?
1326
01:05:54,376 --> 01:05:57,026
Compared to this movie, with over 30 cast.
1327
01:05:57,074 --> 01:05:59,514
But the Russos prove themselves,
1328
01:05:59,555 --> 01:06:01,815
and they're able to integrate all these characters together
1329
01:06:01,862 --> 01:06:02,952
in a seamless manner.
1330
01:06:02,993 --> 01:06:04,733
The energy's perfect.Yeah, right?
1331
01:06:04,778 --> 01:06:06,818
Besides being
incredibly smart,
1332
01:06:06,867 --> 01:06:10,177
the Russos are very trusting and they are very kind to the crew.
1333
01:06:10,218 --> 01:06:11,958
ANTHONY: Okay, everybody
give it up for Geoff Haley!
1334
01:06:12,002 --> 01:06:15,182
[CHEERING AND APPLAUSE]
1335
01:06:15,223 --> 01:06:19,533
Joe and Anthony want to
create a relationship
as quickly as possible,
1336
01:06:19,575 --> 01:06:22,535
and that's what people respond to.
1337
01:06:22,578 --> 01:06:26,098
Last weekend were
the Taurus World Stunt Awards,
1338
01:06:26,147 --> 01:06:29,587
and the team from Civil War
did very well.
1339
01:06:29,629 --> 01:06:31,019
[CHEERING AND APPLAUSE]
1340
01:06:32,980 --> 01:06:34,980
The Russo brothers
have brought some
1341
01:06:35,025 --> 01:06:39,245
extraordinary precision
and complexity
to the Marvel Universe.
1342
01:06:39,291 --> 01:06:43,301
They are extraordinary
technicians.
1343
01:06:43,338 --> 01:06:45,778
They are making
the biggest movie
of all time,
1344
01:06:45,819 --> 01:06:48,689
with the biggest movie
of all time right after it.
1345
01:06:48,735 --> 01:06:50,515
We've had a very strong
collaboration
1346
01:06:50,563 --> 01:06:52,393
with Markus and McFeely
over all four movies.
1347
01:06:52,434 --> 01:06:54,094
ANTHONY:
It's a very organic process.
1348
01:06:54,131 --> 01:06:57,401
We sit there and we grab
a character and we start
to tell a story.
1349
01:06:57,439 --> 01:06:59,919
We love this work so much
that we want real fidelity
1350
01:06:59,963 --> 01:07:02,273
to what it is that we think and believe about these characters,
1351
01:07:02,314 --> 01:07:03,924
and we really want that to translate.
1352
01:07:03,967 --> 01:07:05,927
I think, when you get to the end of these films,
1353
01:07:05,969 --> 01:07:07,359
you'll understand our point of view on life
1354
01:07:07,406 --> 01:07:08,316
and our point of view as filmmakers.
1355
01:07:08,363 --> 01:07:09,633
So making these movies,
1356
01:07:09,669 --> 01:07:11,279
it's been a very
personal journey for us.
1357
01:07:29,819 --> 01:07:31,209
STARK: Slow down.PEPPER: Honey.
1358
01:07:31,256 --> 01:07:32,606
STARK: Slow down, slow down.
I'll spell it out for you.
1359
01:07:32,648 --> 01:07:33,298
PEPPER: You're totally
rambling.No, I'm not.
1360
01:07:33,345 --> 01:07:34,645
PEPPER: You lost me.
1361
01:07:34,694 --> 01:07:36,304
Look, you know how
you're having a dream,
1362
01:07:36,348 --> 01:07:37,738
and in the dream
you gotta pee.
1363
01:07:37,784 --> 01:07:39,394
Yeah.Okay.
1364
01:07:39,438 --> 01:07:40,998
And then, you're like,
"Oh, my God!
There's no bathrooms.
1365
01:07:41,048 --> 01:07:42,348
"What am I gonna do?
Oh, someone's watching..."
1366
01:07:42,397 --> 01:07:44,007
Right. And then you wake up,
1367
01:07:44,051 --> 01:07:45,571
and in real life,
you actually have to pee.
1368
01:07:45,618 --> 01:07:46,708
Yes.Yeah.
1369
01:07:46,749 --> 01:07:48,189
Okay.Everybody has that.
1370
01:07:48,229 --> 01:07:50,319
Right, that's the point
I'm trying to make.
1371
01:07:50,362 --> 01:07:54,022
Apropos of that, last night
I dreamt we had a kid.
1372
01:07:54,844 --> 01:07:56,674
It was so real.
1373
01:07:56,716 --> 01:07:58,976
We named him
after your eccentric uncle.
Uh, what was his name?
1374
01:07:59,022 --> 01:08:01,592
Right.Morgan! Morgan.
1375
01:08:01,634 --> 01:08:03,554
So you woke up...Naturally.
1376
01:08:03,592 --> 01:08:05,072
...and thought that we were...
1377
01:08:05,115 --> 01:08:05,935
Expecting.Yeah.
1378
01:08:05,986 --> 01:08:07,026
Yes?No.
1379
01:08:07,074 --> 01:08:09,824
Please? Maybe?
1380
01:08:09,859 --> 01:08:11,909
We don't even have
a wedding date yet.
1381
01:08:11,948 --> 01:08:15,428
You set August 27th...That's the decoy date.
1382
01:08:15,474 --> 01:08:16,524
So we have to get married
before that date?
1383
01:08:16,562 --> 01:08:17,782
Yes. No, after that date.
1384
01:08:17,824 --> 01:08:19,434
You know,
you two should just elope.
1385
01:08:19,478 --> 01:08:21,568
Because this media circus
that's going on
is driving me crazy.
1386
01:08:21,610 --> 01:08:23,310
Okay.This is me on edge.
1387
01:08:23,351 --> 01:08:24,871
STARK: I'm sorry.Because I'm trying to keep
1388
01:08:24,918 --> 01:08:26,268
all the pictures
out of the paper
and off the Internet
1389
01:08:26,311 --> 01:08:27,791
so your wedding's not ruined.
1390
01:08:27,834 --> 01:08:28,924
No one's working
harder than you.
1391
01:08:28,965 --> 01:08:30,445
Do you remember
that kid from TMZ
1392
01:08:30,489 --> 01:08:31,659
that you had me
trade paint with
on the FDR Drive?
1393
01:08:31,707 --> 01:08:33,317
Well, I got a case
against me now.
1394
01:08:33,361 --> 01:08:34,971
STARK: That's my fault?Yeah, it's your fault.
1395
01:08:35,015 --> 01:08:36,225
"Lose 'em, Hap.
Lose 'em, Hap,"
like The Godfather.
1396
01:08:36,277 --> 01:08:37,667
It's really funny.
Now I gotta go to court.
1397
01:08:37,713 --> 01:08:39,023
That's why we want you
to get out of the car
1398
01:08:39,062 --> 01:08:40,462
and just de-stress,
just walk with us.
1399
01:08:40,499 --> 01:08:42,939
Burt! I see you, Burt.
1400
01:08:42,979 --> 01:08:44,289
Hold on.
1401
01:08:44,329 --> 01:08:45,369
Burt, you son of a bitch.
1402
01:08:45,417 --> 01:08:47,547
Come here, Burt! Come here.
1403
01:08:47,593 --> 01:08:49,253
Man, we gotta get him
a girlfriend.
1404
01:08:49,290 --> 01:08:51,730
You know anyone?
Anyone come to mind
who would maybe...
1405
01:08:51,771 --> 01:08:52,821
What?
1406
01:08:55,905 --> 01:08:57,985
That blade severed
my vibranium tissue.
1407
01:08:58,038 --> 01:08:59,208
[BOTH PANTING]
1408
01:08:59,256 --> 01:09:00,346
Is that even possible?
1409
01:09:00,388 --> 01:09:02,558
It isn't supposed to be.
1410
01:09:02,608 --> 01:09:03,958
I don't know why.It's all right.
1411
01:09:05,393 --> 01:09:07,533
I'm beginning to think
we should've stayed in bed.
1412
01:09:25,282 --> 01:09:26,592
[LOUD CLANGING]
1413
01:10:15,594 --> 01:10:16,554
Vis!
1414
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:17,940
[SCREECHES]
1415
01:10:21,948 --> 01:10:24,038
[LOW GRUNTING]
1416
01:10:39,618 --> 01:10:41,448
[UPBEAT MUSIC PLAYING]
1417
01:10:47,190 --> 01:10:48,670
[GRUNTING]
1418
01:10:50,803 --> 01:10:51,763
Record message.
1419
01:11:10,736 --> 01:11:11,906
[MUSIC STOPS]
1420
01:11:17,090 --> 01:11:18,480
Turn it back on!
1421
01:11:18,526 --> 01:11:19,476
DRAX: No.
1422
01:11:21,355 --> 01:11:23,095
Turn it back on.
1423
01:11:23,139 --> 01:11:26,099
Can't keep listening
to the same song
again and again and again!
1424
01:11:26,142 --> 01:11:28,542
I told you.
I'm screwed up, man.
1425
01:11:28,580 --> 01:11:30,540
I gotta get back
in the groove.
1426
01:11:30,582 --> 01:11:31,972
Specifically
the New York Groove.
1427
01:11:32,018 --> 01:11:33,238
Give me my Zune.No.
1428
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:34,720
Give me the Zune.No.
1429
01:11:35,238 --> 01:11:36,408
Give it!
1430
01:11:36,457 --> 01:11:38,977
The man who sings this song
is a degenerate.
1431
01:11:39,025 --> 01:11:42,155
I will not sit here
and allow you
to malign Ace Frehley!
1432
01:11:42,202 --> 01:11:43,462
Give me the Zune.No.
1433
01:11:43,508 --> 01:11:44,898
[SOFT BLEEPING]
1434
01:11:47,033 --> 01:11:49,383
Ace Frehley is not helping!
1435
01:11:49,426 --> 01:11:51,166
We haven't even
left Knowhere yet.
1436
01:11:54,431 --> 01:11:55,431
[GRUNTS]
1437
01:11:57,173 --> 01:11:59,703
Ace Frehley is helping
more than you are.
1438
01:11:59,741 --> 01:12:01,661
We lost Gamora
because of you.
1439
01:12:01,700 --> 01:12:08,050
We lost Gamora because
you would not let me
seize the moment!
1440
01:12:08,097 --> 01:12:10,577
What do you care?
You tried to kill her!
1441
01:12:10,622 --> 01:12:13,362
She said I'd be saving
the universe!
1442
01:12:13,407 --> 01:12:15,187
MANTIS: I would kill
either of you
1443
01:12:15,235 --> 01:12:19,365
if it would stop
that blinking yellow light.
1444
01:12:19,413 --> 01:12:21,203
PETER: What blinking
yellow light?
1445
01:12:21,241 --> 01:12:23,811
The coded message channel?
How long has this been on?
1446
01:12:23,852 --> 01:12:25,112
MANTIS: It was so beautiful.
1447
01:12:25,158 --> 01:12:26,938
Wait.
1448
01:12:26,986 --> 01:12:29,416
Mantis,
a blinking yellow light
1449
01:12:29,466 --> 01:12:31,156
indicates an important
secret coded message.
1450
01:12:31,207 --> 01:12:32,767
DRAX: Shame on you,
Mantis.How long...
1451
01:12:32,818 --> 01:12:34,078
This was your job.
1452
01:12:34,123 --> 01:12:35,523
It was his job.
1453
01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:38,080
Drax, you didn't see
the blinking yellow light?
1454
01:12:38,127 --> 01:12:40,867
I did. But you said
if it was yellow,
"Let it mellow.
1455
01:12:40,913 --> 01:12:42,523
"Brown, flush it down."
Those were your orders.
1456
01:12:42,567 --> 01:12:45,957
I wasn't talking about
the coded message channel.
1457
01:12:46,005 --> 01:12:48,005
Twenty-two important
coded secret messages.
1458
01:12:48,050 --> 01:12:49,970
That could have been helpful.
1459
01:12:50,009 --> 01:12:51,879
Five hours.
I've been sitting five hours.
1460
01:12:51,924 --> 01:12:53,754
We have twenty-two messages.
1461
01:12:53,795 --> 01:12:55,355
[BLEEPS]Twenty-three messages.
1462
01:12:55,405 --> 01:12:57,445
Oh, they keep coming in.
1463
01:12:57,494 --> 01:13:00,064
From Nebula. Gamora is alive!
1464
01:13:00,106 --> 01:13:02,796
"Thanos is taking her
to Titan.
1465
01:13:02,848 --> 01:13:04,278
"Why aren't you responding?"
1466
01:13:04,327 --> 01:13:05,807
Why aren't you responding?
1467
01:13:05,851 --> 01:13:08,421
"Are you getting my important
coded secret messages?"
1468
01:13:08,462 --> 01:13:10,122
Ship coordinates.
1469
01:13:10,159 --> 01:13:12,249
All right. Let me get my map.
Here we go.
1470
01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:13,730
Titan.
1471
01:13:14,468 --> 01:13:16,118
Yeah.
1472
01:13:16,165 --> 01:13:17,685
Wait. How do we know
this isn't a trap?
1473
01:13:17,732 --> 01:13:19,262
Are we sure
that's from Nebula?
1474
01:13:19,299 --> 01:13:22,609
"Tell Quill
not to lose my sister
a second time,
1475
01:13:22,650 --> 01:13:25,310
"or I will sew his face
to his genitals."
1476
01:13:26,523 --> 01:13:28,483
That's her.
1477
01:13:28,525 --> 01:13:31,045
She's always wanted
to sew my face to my genitals.
1478
01:13:32,747 --> 01:13:33,567
We're going to Titan.
1479
01:13:50,939 --> 01:13:52,939
GAMORA: The planet
has been taken, Father.
1480
01:13:56,466 --> 01:14:00,296
The Theradite King pledges
eternal loyalty to your cause.
1481
01:14:01,123 --> 01:14:03,003
He accepted my terms?
1482
01:14:03,038 --> 01:14:04,208
Eventually.
1483
01:14:13,570 --> 01:14:15,010
THANOS: Well done, daughter.
1484
01:14:16,486 --> 01:14:17,656
Well done.
1485
01:14:21,448 --> 01:14:23,098
Stop it.
1486
01:14:24,059 --> 01:14:25,059
THANOS: Why?
1487
01:14:29,717 --> 01:14:33,497
By the look of it,
you seemed content enough
at the time.
1488
01:14:37,507 --> 01:14:39,067
I was a prisoner.
1489
01:14:42,338 --> 01:14:44,508
THANOS: You were a warrior.
1490
01:14:44,558 --> 01:14:45,778
I didn't ask for it.
1491
01:14:45,820 --> 01:14:47,470
THANOS: You didn't refuse.
1492
01:14:56,091 --> 01:14:57,881
After my planet died,
1493
01:14:59,268 --> 01:15:01,878
I had nothing. No one.
1494
01:15:02,924 --> 01:15:05,804
And I thought I never would.
1495
01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:08,540
And I was all right with that.
I had a new vocation.
[CHUCKLES LIGHTLY]
1496
01:15:13,456 --> 01:15:14,326
Then I found you.
1497
01:15:16,198 --> 01:15:19,768
And at my side, you became
the fiercest woman
in the galaxy.
1498
01:15:22,770 --> 01:15:25,340
That's why I chose you
to find the Soul Stone.
1499
01:15:27,035 --> 01:15:28,855
I'm sorry I disappointed you.
1500
01:15:28,907 --> 01:15:30,777
I am disappointed.
1501
01:15:30,822 --> 01:15:32,352
But not because
you didn't find it.
1502
01:15:41,963 --> 01:15:43,623
But because you did.
1503
01:15:44,966 --> 01:15:46,966
And you lied.
1504
01:15:47,012 --> 01:15:48,062
[SOFTLY] I don't know
what you're talking about.
1505
01:15:48,100 --> 01:15:50,540
I gave you my trust!
1506
01:15:50,580 --> 01:15:52,670
You repaid it with deceit.
1507
01:15:52,713 --> 01:15:54,243
At least be honest
about it now.
1508
01:15:57,196 --> 01:16:02,456
I can make you tell me.
You seem to know that.
1509
01:16:02,505 --> 01:16:04,725
I never wanted to
force you into anything.
1510
01:16:07,728 --> 01:16:13,168
That's why when you left me
all those years ago,
1511
01:16:13,212 --> 01:16:14,342
I allowed it.
1512
01:16:14,387 --> 01:16:15,867
[SCOFFS] You allowed it?
1513
01:16:15,910 --> 01:16:18,350
THANOS: You haven't been
under the impression
you escaped?
1514
01:16:22,221 --> 01:16:24,611
Daughter, I raised you
smarter than that.
1515
01:16:24,658 --> 01:16:26,228
Your daughter?
1516
01:16:26,878 --> 01:16:28,228
You didn't raise me.
1517
01:16:28,270 --> 01:16:31,490
You kidnapped me, orphaned me,
and imprisoned me!
1518
01:16:31,534 --> 01:16:34,154
Everything I hate about myself
comes from you.
1519
01:16:37,410 --> 01:16:41,590
I stayed because
you taught me
I didn't deserve better.
1520
01:16:41,631 --> 01:16:43,331
THANOS: Why did you leave?
1521
01:16:47,159 --> 01:16:49,339
Because I found people
that showed me I did.
1522
01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:52,640
THANOS: You had a family here,
little one.
1523
01:16:52,686 --> 01:16:55,556
No. I didn't.
1524
01:16:55,602 --> 01:16:56,862
THANOS: Yes.
1525
01:16:56,908 --> 01:16:58,208
No.
1526
01:16:58,257 --> 01:17:00,297
You just didn't care
what happened to it.
1527
01:17:23,804 --> 01:17:24,854
GAMORA: Nebula.
1528
01:17:31,899 --> 01:17:33,249
Don't do this.
1529
01:17:37,731 --> 01:17:38,911
Please don't do this.
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