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Everything that we know
and have learned about mankind
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and its place
in the universe suggests
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that we are a part of the norm.
We are not the exception.
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Within the last month,
a planet was identified that has water
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a mere 110 light
years away from Earth.
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We need to begin to prepare
to accept and understand
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that we are not
alone in the universe,
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have not been at all
throughout this time.
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The same
year that life-giving water
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was discovered
on a distant planet,
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the US Navy made a
startling announcement.
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Images captured by its pilots
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of objects exhibiting a vastly
superior technology were authentic.
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We can start to finally,
at long last, after all these decades,
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begin to answer these questions
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about the origin of these vehicles,
where they're from,
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how they're made,
how they function and why they're here.
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People need to know
there is something else out there.
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To fully understand,
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we must examine a body
of evidence long suppressed.
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A parallel history to the
one we think we know,
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stretching back
at least 70 years.
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On a clear, sunny day in 1955,
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William Coleman,
a decorated World War II pilot,
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took off from Miami on a routine
flight to deliver a B-25 bomber
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to an airbase in Mississippi.
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My co-pilot said,
"Look at that bright spot up there."
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I think it's just a
reflection of the sun,
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a craze probably,
in the windshield.
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He and his passengers,
two aviation engineers,
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realized it was a strange object
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making a rapid descent
right across their flight path.
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My God, look at that thing.
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And I opened it up to
max continuous power,
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we're clipping right along
at over 300 miles an hour,
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right on the treetops...
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I'm right on the
tail of this thing.
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But as we got close, I said,
"It doesn't have a tail.
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Doesn't have any wings."
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Look at the shadow on the ground.
The shadow was perfectly round.
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That's not an airplane.
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And I said, "I'm overtaking it."So I said,
"Hang on."
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So I make a hard turn.
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There it was, a disc going
across the field with two big swirls.
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What I didn't see was any exhaust,
propulsion.
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No rivet lines, a rounded edge about
that size where it all came together.
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A true flying saucer.
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Then it seemed to vanish,
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until they spotted it
thousands of feet above them.
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Bright yellow,
sun-ish looking object.
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It went like a bat out of hell.
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After they landed, the
stunned witnesses were separately debriefed
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by Project Blue Book, the Air Force
investigation of the UFO phenomena.
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Ironically,
a little over a decade later,
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Col. William T. Coleman became
public spokesman for Project Blue Book.
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Probably what we saw may
have been from somewhere else.
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Look,
the Air Forces are very deadly,
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being when it comes to
intercepting an unknown.
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If it proves hostile,
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we're gonna shoot it down.
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Other than that, no problem.
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In the late 1940s,
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America seemed
impregnable to military threat.
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It had just emerged from
World War II masters of the air,
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the only nuclear-armed
superpower in the world.
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But in 1947,
something appeared in the sky,
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and everything changed.
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Every newscaster and
every newspaper across the nation
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has made headlines out of it.
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And this afternoon
we are honored indeed
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to have here in our studio
this man Kenneth Arnold,
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who we believe may be able
to give us a firsthand account,
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and give you the same,
on what happened.
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I kept looking for
their tails. They didn't have any tail.
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I thought, "Well,
maybe something's wrong in my eyes."
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They seemed to flip and flash in the sun,
just like a mirror.
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I'd be glad to confirm it with my
hands on a Bible because I did see it,
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and whether it has anything to
do with our army or our intelligence,
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or whether it has to do with
some foreign country, I don't know.
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Arnold had sent this sketch to
the Air Force following his citing.
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He was later invited to California's
Hamilton Field Army Air Base,
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where he was handed
what he was told
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were authentic
photos of a similar craft.
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"At the request
of Lt. Col. Donald Springer,
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commanding officer of the
Fourth Air Force Intelligence,
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I was given the above
prints a4s a courtesy
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for the assistance he had
given military intelligence."
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The photo was taken in Arizona
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just two weeks after
his own encounter.
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They said that my father,
his sighting of flying saucers,
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got more attentionthan
the ending of World War II.
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He was besieged by newspaper
reporters from all over the world.
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Mm-hm.
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Reporters interviewed
United Airlines pilot E.J. Smith
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who also flew the
northwest route.
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He joked Arnold had likely
been fooled by a cockpit reflection,
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until he, too,
became a witness a few weeks later.
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He and his stunned
crew had watched
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as nine discs maneuvered in
formation for a full 45minutes.
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And from there it just exploded.
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The first few days
in July of 1947
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had a very large level
of exciting activity.
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These unknown
objects barnstormed across the country,
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sometimes in
fleet-like formations
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that looked like a
deliberate show of force.
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Hundreds of
people told Air Force investigators
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they'd seen the saucers
with their own eyes.
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Bright, shiny things that whooshed
through the air at incredible speeds.
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Even airline pilots, who seldom
indulge in fantasy, reported sighting them.
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And Air Force fliers
told of chasing them,
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or something, all over the sky.
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The Air Force call them
"unidentified flying objects,"
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but people went right on calling
them saucers and seeing them.
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There was something in the air.
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But a then-secret
memorandum by the same general
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suggested that the
highest military echelons
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thought there was
plenty to worry about.
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The memo states,
"The phenomenon reported is something real
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and not visionary
or fictitious."
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It described metallic discs
circular in shape, with domes on top,
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often traveling in formations
of three to nine craft.
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It also listed
aerodynamic capabilities
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with disturbing implications
for national defense.
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Extreme rates of climb,
dazzling maneuverability,
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and a superior capacity
for evasive action.
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A lot of people expected that
the United States government
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was about to confirm,
"Okay, they're ours.
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This is an exciting new technological
advance that we were testing,
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and now it's time to
tell people about it."
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Occasionally,
eyewitness testimony included
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compelling
photographic evidence.
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Evelyn Trent was feeding
her rabbits when she spotted
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a metallic disc-shaped
object floating over their farm.
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She alerted her husband,
Paul, to grab his camera,
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and he managed to get two shots.
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They described the object slowly
hovering before it abruptly sped away.
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Life magazine
picked up the story,
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and the McMinnville UFO
became a global sensation.
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There's no
chance of this being weather.
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There's no chance of this
being a star or an aircraft.
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This is either some kind of structured
object that we don't know what it is,
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or it's a hoax.
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Paul Trent and his wife, they were honest,
simple, hardworking people
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who never made a dime off
the photographs that they took.
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They never tried to
make a dime off of it.
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It just come up like that
and tipped and just...
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I mean,
it really went. It went fast.
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I've never seen anything go so fast
in my life as that thing went. Yeah.
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In 1951, future astronaut
Gordon Cooper, while training in Germany,
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chased a large formation
with his squadron of fighter jets.
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And they would come over and do
the same maneuvers that we make
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except every once in a
while one of them goes, zip!
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And you just can't
do that in a fighter.
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There are two saucers,
one inverted over the other.
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They seemed to be made of
some kind of polished metal.
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When I first saw the objects,
they were almost overhead.
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By the time we had
the camera ready to go,
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they had moved to a
considerably greater distance.
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But the unknowns
showed no signs of hostility.
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An otherworldly power on
its own mysterious mission.
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Commercial pilots William
Nash and William Fortenberry,
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former Navy aviators with
thousands of hours of flight experience,
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saw eight huge discs
fly in a stack formation
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over Chesapeake Bay, Virginia,
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just a stone's throw from Washington,
DC.
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When they came out over
the blackness of the bay,
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they were distinct
six red coins.
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When they got closer,
we could see that you're...
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It looked like you were looking
down into it, like a hot coal.
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They reported the glowing
red objects had approached them head-on
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at a speed they estimated at
6,000 to 12,000 miles per hour.
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It came in like this
and went out like this.
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There would be no way of making a
complete reversal or a 90-degree turn
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12,000 miles an hour or greater
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without making the
occupants juice on the wall.
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That really shook us up.
Looking at the thing shook us up.
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Nothing could have
gotten to that degree
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of scientific progress
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without some of the intermediate
stuff having become public knowledge.
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You just knew that they
were not from this planet.
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The next weekend,
the unthinkable happened.
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The nation's capital was
invaded from the skies.
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Seven unknown blips suddenly appeared
on radar at Washington National Airport.
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Air-traffic controllers at both
Andrews and Bolling Air Force bases
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confirmed the objects as they
danced through restricted airspace.
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The Capitol Building.
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The White House
where the president lived,
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these were some of the most
important places in the country
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when it comes to
national defense.
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And there were UFOs
violating this airspace,
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and there was nothing thatthe
Air Force could do about it.
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F-94
interceptors were scrambled.
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Pentagon press liaison Al Chop
was in the radar room that night.
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We could see the planes
coming in on this radar scope
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and the minute we saw
the beginning of these guys,
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the UFOs disappeared.
They just left.
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Obviously, whatever these
things were had intelligence,
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enough to get out of the area
when we had an intercept going in.
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But the next weekend,
it began again.
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Pilot William Patterson pushed
his Starfire jet to maximum speed
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to try to intercept one
of the glowing objects.
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Flew right into the middle
of three or four of them.
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Al Chop recalls the
pilot's panicky air-to-ground transmission
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as he streaked at 600 miles per
hour into a group of unknowns.
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He actually said,
"They're closing in on me. What do I do?"
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It was frightening.
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The Air Force had just
issued orders to shoot down the unknowns,
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if "they can't talk them down."
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I'm not gonna tell an Air Force pilot
to fire at the damn thing or anything.
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But I didn't say anything.
Nobody said anything.
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And then all of a sudden,
the things began to move away from him
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and he said, "They're gone."
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I'm convinced
they're solid objects.
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I'm convinced that they're
probably from another planet,
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or from outer space somewhere.
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I've always felt that
way since that night.
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The very next day,
the Air Force's top brass
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hastily prepared the largest Pentagon
press conference since World War II.
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Seen here in a last-minute huddle,
Gen. Roger Ramey,
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Air Force director of
operations at the Pentagon.
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Capt. Edward Ruppelt
of Project Blue Book,
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the Air Force's official
UFO investigations arm,
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and director of Air Force intelligence,
Gen. John Samford.
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Since 1947, we have received and
analyzed between one and 2,000 reports
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that have come to us
from all kinds of sources.
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Of this great mass of reports,
we have been able,
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adequately,
to explain the great bulk of them.
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However, there have been a certain
percentage of this volume of reports
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that have been made by credible
observersof relatively incredible things.
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We can say that the recent
sightings are in no way connected
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with any secret development by
any department of the United States.
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In the Q&A with reporters,
Samford suggested a 50-50 chance
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it could have been radar waves
bouncing off temperature inversions.
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The point that Samford
put across all too effectively
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was that they were not real. They
were just tricks of the atmosphere.
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And atmospheric phenomena
can't be a threat to national security.
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You don't shoot at clouds.
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The public
was pondering the implications
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of possible
extraterrestrial contact.
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Robert L. Farnsworth, President
of the United States Rocket Society,
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told defense officials not to permit
our planes to fire at any flying saucers.
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He says this might alienate humankind
from beings of far superior forces.
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Farnsworth feels that friendly
contact should be sought
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as long as possible.
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Behind the scenes,
the CIA had other concerns.
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A secret internal memo
urged immediate attention
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to unexplained
objects in the vicinity
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of major US
Defense installations.
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I would dare say,
if anything happened
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we thought was a threat
to our national security,
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somebody out there,
one of the services, would respond to it.
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Remember,
this is the height of the Cold War.
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Okay, there are bombers on both
sides loaded with nuclear bombs.
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Dr. Jacque Vallee was the
inspiration for the French UFO researcher
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in Steven Spielberg's Close
Encounters of the Third Kind.
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Have you recently
had a close encounter?
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In real life,
Dr. Vallee conducted
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sober scientific research
on the phenomenon.
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We know now that
there is no simple answer.
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For decades,
he met with witnesses
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and traveled the globe
gathering evidence...
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ultimately creating the first
database on the UFO subject.
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Mr. Chairman,
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all the great nations of the world
are represented on this committee.
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Let us keep in mind thatthe
UFO phenomenon may represent
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an even greater reality.
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Vallee also consulted with scientific,
military and government officials,
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including Project Blue Book's top
science adviser, Dr. J. Allen Hynek.
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I began my work as scientific
consultant to the United States Air Force
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as an open skeptic.
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Hynek was a university
astronomer with a high-security clearance
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when the Air Force recruited
him to investigate UFOs.
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And it so happened when the Air
Force got the job of trying to figure out
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what some of these strange
flying saucer stories were about,
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well, they needed an astronomer
to see how many of the reports
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could possibly be explained as
meteors and twinkling stars and planets.
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The two scientists
became close colleagues,
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with Hynek entrusting Vallee to
index the reams of Blue Book files
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scattered throughout
Hynek's home.
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It was there that Vallee made a
chance discovery of a letter so secret,
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he had to appeal
to the chief counsel
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of the Senate Defense
Appropriations Committee
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to get it declassified.
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That document changed
my life. It taught me that
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the subject had been taken much
more seriously than anybody thought.
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The document
revealed an ultra-secret,
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highly funded
scientific investigation
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working parallel to Blue Book
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unknown to all but a select few.
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The letter was
signed by H.C. Cross,
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director of exotic metallurgy at
Battelle National Laboratories.
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These were the
people who had analyzed the facts
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with a large budget, with highly competent
physicistsand computer scientists.
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Who are these people? What
information did they have?
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Good evening. Tonight,
we go after a fantastic story.
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The story that flying saucers from
other worlds are visiting our planet,
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just as we are exploring outer
space with our own rocket satellites.
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Our guest is former Marine
Air Corps Maj. Donald Keyhoe,
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in his campaign to prove
that flying saucers exist.
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My name is Mike Wallace.
The cigarette is Parliament.
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Why would the United States
government withhold information
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from United States
citizens? For what reason?
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The Air Force is simply treating
the American people like children.
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They don't trust
them with the facts.
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During the '50s and '60s,
it wasn't just the Americans
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who were seeing flying saucers.
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At the Westall
School in Australia,
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several hundred students saw an
object hovering over this power line tower
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on their athletic field.
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An event they vividly
recall 50 years later.
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A student came into the classroom,
you know.
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"There's flying saucers in the oval,
there's flying saucers,"
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and everybody ran out.
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And I remember the fear and
the hysteria of all the students.
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I couldn't believe it because
what I was seeing wasn't possible.
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It was vertical, horizontal. It'd
move away from us, back towards us.
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Appear somewhere else,
somewhere else.
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My God,
you know? But it was exciting.
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It was like that and then all of a sudden,
it just turned on its side
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and I could see that
it was a round disc.
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The children saw the disc
begin to descend into this wooded reserve
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at the end of the
school's running path.
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I ran towards the corner of the school,
jumped the fence
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and ran towards where it looked
as though it went down into the trees,
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and then stopped dead because it
was right in front of me on the ground.
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Like a disc with a
slight rise in the middle.
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I also heard a low,
sort of a humming noise,
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and I felt a bit of a heat
coming off it as well.
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And it started to take off
pretty well straight away.
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It had all bluey-purple
lights around the bottom.
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Don't remember
seeing any windows,
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and it took off to about probably
four or five meters in the air,
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and then turned on its side, and just
went... Straight up so fast,
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that there's just nothing,
even nowadays, that could go that fast.
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Shortly
after the object departed,
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the authorities
converged on the school.
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We had Army, Air Force,
policedown here cordoning off the area
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to prevent any of us enteringthe
area or disturbing anything.
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We got called to assembly.
The headmaster said,
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"You have not seen this.
You do not talk about it.
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You'll be in trouble if you do."
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For the first time ever,
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the school science teacher agreed
to describe what he saw that day,
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providing we
concealed his identity.
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It was not a mirage. There was
something physical in the sky.
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It was silver. It could hover.
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It could move slowly. It
could move very rapidly.
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Eventually it moved away
to the other side of the oval,
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and down behind some pine trees.
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I was not then,
nor ever have been,
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able to use my
knowledge of the world,
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nor my scientific training,
to provide a rational explanation.
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What he said next
sheds light on why the school staff
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have remained
silent all these years.
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There was a knock
on the door one night.
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Two older men, one in uniform,
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asked for my description
of what I had seen.
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I was then told that I
hadn't seen anything,
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that I'd made it all up,
possibly because I was drunk
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and that they would have to report
that fact to the Education Department
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and I would lose my job. After that,
I was told
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that I would be prosecuted
underthe Official Secrets Act,
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and I was told that there wasn'tanything
there, when I knew there was,
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and that I had to
keep quiet about it.
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Why did I have to keep quiet?
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The Westall landing
may not have been an isolated incident.
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Four days prior,
a then-young engineer in nearby Balwyn
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was taking photos in his mother's
garden when something caught his eye.
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This tremendous flash of light,
and I looked up, and I saw this object...
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I had a Polaroid camera. I pulled
this up and hit myself on the face.
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00:27:41,176 --> 00:27:45,111
And I took the picture. I've
got the photograph here.
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This is the original Polaroid?
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That's it.
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Looked like it was made
out of some form of metal,
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and it was engineered.
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And being an engineer,
I was sure it was.
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And this is when I
took the photograph,
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and it had tipped around
and I could see the bottom,
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and it looked like it
was rotating to me.
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That was it, and then after that,
it sort of gave a bounce
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00:28:17,661 --> 00:28:21,078
and it rocketed away to the north,
very high speed.
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00:28:21,113 --> 00:28:23,425
Can you
describe the acceleration?
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It was almost instantaneous. It's
like it had been shot out of a gun.
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Wham, you know?
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00:28:30,363 --> 00:28:33,504
Air Force officers
showed up at his doorstep
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00:28:33,539 --> 00:28:36,611
asking for every
detail of his experience.
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00:28:36,645 --> 00:28:41,616
And they also had some
photographs of similar things,
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and they also had a book which
had pictures of things in which...
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00:28:47,173 --> 00:28:50,245
They didn't leave it with me,
but I had a look through.
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00:28:51,660 --> 00:28:56,113
But they said it was an
unidentified flying object.
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That was it.
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What was the implication?
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That it didn't
come from anywhere on Earth.
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00:29:07,676 --> 00:29:12,820
Project Blue Book, with a skeletal
staff, continued publicly collecting
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00:29:12,854 --> 00:29:14,718
thousands of cases.
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00:29:14,753 --> 00:29:17,583
Despite efforts to
explain them away,
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00:29:17,617 --> 00:29:21,242
hundreds were still
filed as unknown.
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00:29:21,276 --> 00:29:26,454
Several reports of a strange
egg-shaped object about 200 feet long
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landing on farms and highways
last night in the vicinity of Levelland.
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Sheriff Clem says he even
himself got a glimpse of the thing,
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00:29:35,670 --> 00:29:40,123
which somehow turned off lights
and auto engines when it came near.
402
00:29:48,269 --> 00:29:52,721
Within 24 to 36 hours after
these sightings in Levelland, Texas
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at the White Sands Proving Ground,
very close to the Trinity test site
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00:29:56,795 --> 00:29:59,280
where they first detonated
the first atomic bomb,
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00:29:59,314 --> 00:30:03,767
military personnel witnessed
a glowing egg-shaped object
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00:30:03,802 --> 00:30:05,320
that apparently landed.
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00:30:06,839 --> 00:30:08,496
This is Bill Haggert,
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00:30:08,530 --> 00:30:14,088
Public Information Officer of White
Sands Proving Ground, New Mexico.
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00:30:14,122 --> 00:30:17,988
What they saw looked
like a landing and takeoff
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of some controlled
object from outer space.
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00:31:22,156 --> 00:31:25,780
They appeared
to be dressed in white coveralls.
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00:31:25,814 --> 00:31:29,266
And were childlike. That is,
small.
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00:31:32,925 --> 00:31:36,687
Zamora added that
one of the two persons turned his head
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00:31:36,722 --> 00:31:38,517
and looked straight at him.
415
00:31:43,453 --> 00:31:47,422
When I got out of the car,
about 50 feet from it...
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00:31:49,666 --> 00:31:54,119
I guess they saw me because they
started their motor or whatever it is.
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00:31:54,153 --> 00:31:57,881
I could see a big blast of
fire coming from right under it.
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00:32:00,470 --> 00:32:03,473
So, I was behind some bushes there,
behind my car.
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00:32:03,507 --> 00:32:05,889
I could see it and I
could feel that heat.
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00:32:07,718 --> 00:32:10,721
That really got me scared,
you know?
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00:32:10,756 --> 00:32:14,035
A lot of people say, "Why didn't
you take your gun out and shoot at it?"
422
00:32:14,070 --> 00:32:16,900
They weren't
doing nothing to me.
423
00:32:18,074 --> 00:32:21,353
It just took a little
while to get airborne,
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00:32:21,387 --> 00:32:25,944
came up a little bit, about 20-30 feet,
and it stayed there a while.
425
00:32:31,294 --> 00:32:34,124
And it was just as
quiet as it could be.
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00:32:36,678 --> 00:32:39,958
And then just flew away,
that's it.
427
00:32:47,620 --> 00:32:51,141
Lonnie was very,
very scared. He was as white as a sheet.
428
00:32:51,176 --> 00:32:55,559
From here, went directly to the
church to talk to the priest, okay?
429
00:32:55,594 --> 00:33:00,426
Pablo Lopez was among the first
to arrive at the landing and takeoff site.
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00:33:00,461 --> 00:33:03,567
The ground was still smoldering in
some of the weeds that were around it.
431
00:33:03,602 --> 00:33:07,088
This rare footage
gives us a glimpse of the scene
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shortly after the incident.
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00:33:09,849 --> 00:33:13,957
Patrolman Zamora stoops to point
out one of the landing gear imprints
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00:33:13,992 --> 00:33:20,136
where officers had just placed rocks
to protect the fresh ground traces.
435
00:33:20,170 --> 00:33:24,416
And then there was two sets of footprints,
two sets of footprints.
436
00:33:24,450 --> 00:33:26,832
Like so.
437
00:33:26,866 --> 00:33:29,317
That was about the
approximate size of 'em.
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00:33:29,352 --> 00:33:32,665
In comparison to a quarter,
that's pretty small.
439
00:33:32,700 --> 00:33:35,358
Okay. That's about
the size of 'em.
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00:33:37,049 --> 00:33:40,052
Within an hour
and over the next several days,
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00:33:40,087 --> 00:33:44,125
officials from the FBI, military,
and Project Blue Book
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00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,266
documented the
evidence at the scene.
443
00:33:53,790 --> 00:33:56,827
Were there any prong marks
on the ground or anything like that
444
00:33:56,862 --> 00:34:00,417
- where you could see where it had landed?
- There were four.
445
00:34:01,694 --> 00:34:04,076
Very unusual footprints.
And how many were there?
446
00:34:04,111 --> 00:34:07,183
Two footprints on one side
and two footprints on the other side.
447
00:34:12,981 --> 00:34:16,916
- Of course, the burn area there...
- I was in my car.
448
00:34:16,951 --> 00:34:18,918
I could see it and I
could feel that heat.
449
00:34:21,645 --> 00:34:24,683
They told me that all over
the state they had been seen.
450
00:34:24,717 --> 00:34:27,755
Some of those flying saucers,
whatever you call 'em.
451
00:34:27,789 --> 00:34:30,965
They gave me a book on it,
you know?
452
00:34:30,999 --> 00:34:33,140
They told me to go
ahead and read it.
453
00:34:33,174 --> 00:34:36,212
Well,
it says not to say nothing.
454
00:34:36,246 --> 00:34:39,456
Keep away from it. Don't say too much,
you know.
455
00:34:39,491 --> 00:34:43,840
It was the middle of the
night by the time Lonnie came home.
456
00:34:43,874 --> 00:34:46,705
I mean, he was really pale.
457
00:34:46,739 --> 00:34:50,329
And I thought he was sick. I said,
"Are you sick or something?"
458
00:34:50,364 --> 00:34:53,505
He said,
"No. I was just working." He was like...
459
00:34:54,092 --> 00:34:55,990
Like he was angry.
460
00:34:57,716 --> 00:35:02,721
What I knew about it was when I
started reading the papers, you know.
461
00:35:02,755 --> 00:35:07,105
Started coming out,
and everything. I said, "What's this?"
462
00:35:07,139 --> 00:35:11,316
"I don't know,"
he said. "It's just a headache"
463
00:35:11,350 --> 00:35:16,217
He said "Everybody's after me and
some believe me and some don't."
464
00:35:17,598 --> 00:35:19,634
- Dear Mr. Zamora.
- Dear Mr. Zamora.
465
00:35:19,669 --> 00:35:22,499
- Dear Mr. Zamora.
- Dear Mr. Zamora.
466
00:35:24,225 --> 00:35:27,194
Sure,
I believe you saw an egg-shaped spacecraft
467
00:35:27,228 --> 00:35:29,713
that had passengers
from off this earth.
468
00:35:31,370 --> 00:35:33,417
I could go on for a
week telling you what I've seen.
469
00:35:33,441 --> 00:35:37,618
A boy in our school
science fair had three pictures
470
00:35:37,652 --> 00:35:41,760
that looked just like the
flying saucer you described.
471
00:35:44,763 --> 00:35:47,973
As I have pictures of a
couple of egg-shaped shape ships taken...
472
00:35:48,007 --> 00:35:50,365
- I read about you seeing a flying saucer.
- I'm a retired teacher.
473
00:35:50,389 --> 00:35:52,495
Well,
you have a friend who believes you.
474
00:35:52,529 --> 00:35:55,498
This saucer phenomenon
has changed my life and ideas.
475
00:35:58,570 --> 00:36:02,021
August 17, 1960,
our Red Bluff officers
476
00:36:02,056 --> 00:36:04,231
and dozens of
people saw a saucer.
477
00:36:04,265 --> 00:36:10,306
Can you tell me how long it stayed
on Earth, and other things like that?
478
00:36:10,340 --> 00:36:12,549
Then people
started making fun of him
479
00:36:12,584 --> 00:36:16,001
that he had seen little
men from outer space
480
00:36:16,035 --> 00:36:21,248
or this and that. A
whole bunch of dirty stuff.
481
00:36:23,250 --> 00:36:27,046
Lot of people asked me, "Is
that the reason you quit the police force?"
482
00:36:27,081 --> 00:36:28,841
No,
the reason I quit the police force
483
00:36:28,876 --> 00:36:32,190
was because I was going and
doing a lot of publicity and stuff.
484
00:36:32,224 --> 00:36:34,640
I didn't wanna hurt the town.
485
00:36:37,367 --> 00:36:42,924
The level of inquiry went
all the way to the office of the President.
486
00:36:42,959 --> 00:36:48,689
To this day, the Socorro close
encounter remains unexplained.
487
00:36:50,277 --> 00:36:52,348
Socorro was very similar
488
00:36:52,382 --> 00:36:57,698
to the French cases that I had
brought to Hynek's attention.
489
00:36:57,732 --> 00:37:02,772
Checked by the police,
checked by the French Air Force,
490
00:37:02,806 --> 00:37:06,224
where there were also
occupants who were seen,
491
00:37:06,258 --> 00:37:10,711
short beings,
in connection with the objects.
492
00:37:13,023 --> 00:37:15,233
I think that's what
convinced him
493
00:37:15,267 --> 00:37:19,582
that there were UFO
landings in the United States.
494
00:37:29,177 --> 00:37:33,458
Looked like a toy top
somewhat upside down.
495
00:37:33,492 --> 00:37:36,978
So this is the diagram
which we've come up with.
496
00:37:37,013 --> 00:37:39,567
It's more flat here
other than round.
497
00:37:39,602 --> 00:37:41,742
But it does have
the hump up in here.
498
00:37:41,776 --> 00:37:44,745
It seemed to move off
the groundif it was down.
499
00:37:44,779 --> 00:37:48,162
And then we saw three lights
that went from yellow to red.
500
00:37:48,196 --> 00:37:50,613
When you got right up to it,
it lit up.
501
00:37:50,647 --> 00:37:53,201
I mean, it really did become bright,
and we could see it,
502
00:37:53,236 --> 00:37:56,204
the outline of it, real good.
503
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,449
Blue Book's
Dr. Allen Hynek investigated
504
00:37:59,484 --> 00:38:01,348
one of the alleged landing sites
505
00:38:01,382 --> 00:38:04,212
with the local sheriff.
506
00:38:04,247 --> 00:38:07,733
At an overflow press
conference later that day,
507
00:38:07,768 --> 00:38:11,772
the world held its breath
for an historic revelation
508
00:38:11,806 --> 00:38:14,499
about the landings in Michigan.
509
00:38:14,533 --> 00:38:19,469
Hynek, by now privately
convinced of the UFO reality,
510
00:38:19,504 --> 00:38:22,369
struggled to follow
the Air Force policy
511
00:38:22,403 --> 00:38:25,337
of tamping down
public excitement.
512
00:38:31,757 --> 00:38:37,591
I'm saying that the two cases that I
investigated most deeply were most likely.
513
00:38:37,625 --> 00:38:41,698
I said in a statement that I
couldn't prove it in a court of law.
514
00:38:44,943 --> 00:38:46,324
No, that's not quite right.
515
00:38:46,358 --> 00:38:49,603
I think that a person can be
pretty sure about something
516
00:38:49,637 --> 00:38:52,433
without being ableto convict
somebody of a murder.
517
00:38:52,468 --> 00:38:58,266
- Can you? Please.
- Yes, I do. Honestly, in this case.
518
00:39:01,131 --> 00:39:03,686
Hynek's strained explanation,
519
00:39:03,720 --> 00:39:06,861
which he later called
his greatest regret,
520
00:39:06,896 --> 00:39:09,381
ignited a public furor.
521
00:39:09,416 --> 00:39:11,521
Mr. Ford,
what about flying saucers?
522
00:39:11,556 --> 00:39:14,248
You've had some in
Michigan in the past week.
523
00:39:14,282 --> 00:39:20,703
Dave, we've had several
incidents that many felt were sufficient
524
00:39:20,737 --> 00:39:24,085
to justify some action
by our government,
525
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:28,849
and not the kind of flippant answer
that was given by the Air Force
526
00:39:28,883 --> 00:39:33,336
where they passed
it off as "swamp gas."
527
00:39:33,371 --> 00:39:38,168
It seems to me that
this mystery does require
528
00:39:38,203 --> 00:39:40,550
that the Congress
take a good look at it.
529
00:39:40,585 --> 00:39:44,347
Let them put their
record on the line.
530
00:39:44,382 --> 00:39:50,595
On April 5th, 1966, congressional
hearings were held with Dr. Hynek
531
00:39:50,629 --> 00:39:55,772
and Secretary of the Air Force
Harold Brown both giving testimony.
532
00:39:58,119 --> 00:40:03,849
Mr. Ford has come out. He has a
pretty good-size stature in the Congress.
533
00:40:03,884 --> 00:40:06,645
And so, Mr. Secretary,
534
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:12,755
see if you can shed some light
on these highly illuminated objects.
535
00:40:12,789 --> 00:40:14,895
Mr. Secretary,
there have been charges
536
00:40:14,929 --> 00:40:18,277
that the Air Force is hiding
something in the UFO field.
537
00:40:18,312 --> 00:40:21,349
We have not been
hiding anything.
538
00:40:21,384 --> 00:40:24,560
The investigations
have been made public.
539
00:40:24,594 --> 00:40:27,563
The hearing this morningwas
public for just that reason.
540
00:40:27,597 --> 00:40:29,772
There has never
been any evidence
541
00:40:29,806 --> 00:40:32,637
presented to the
United States Air Force,
542
00:40:32,671 --> 00:40:35,294
or discovered by the
United States Air Force,
543
00:40:35,329 --> 00:40:38,125
which would indicate
that the UFO phenomena
544
00:40:38,159 --> 00:40:42,819
represents any interplanetary
space vehicle of any kind.
545
00:40:45,270 --> 00:40:48,135
Amid growing pressure,
the Air Force commissioned
546
00:40:48,169 --> 00:40:50,206
an outside panel of scientists
547
00:40:50,240 --> 00:40:55,936
to analyze select cases and
settle the matter once and for all.
548
00:40:55,970 --> 00:40:59,077
It was headed by
physicist Edward Condon.
549
00:40:59,111 --> 00:41:04,323
Dr. Condon, do you hope to find
people from outer space here on Earth?
550
00:41:04,358 --> 00:41:08,155
Well, I don't know for sure,
but we'll try to just study the reports
551
00:41:08,189 --> 00:41:11,883
and get as much additional
information as we can to see.
552
00:41:11,917 --> 00:41:16,888
Would you like to have us being
visited by these little or big things?
553
00:41:16,922 --> 00:41:20,408
Well, that'd be fine with
me. I hope they're friendly.
554
00:41:20,443 --> 00:41:22,169
How do you
propose to go about...
555
00:41:22,203 --> 00:41:25,690
After the project was launched,
Condon remarked to an audience
556
00:41:25,724 --> 00:41:29,176
that he thought the UFO
subject was nonsense.
557
00:41:29,210 --> 00:41:35,803
But "I'm not supposed to reach
that conclusion for another year."
558
00:41:38,116 --> 00:41:40,118
After a two-year investigation,
559
00:41:40,152 --> 00:41:44,571
the panel submitted a
massive 1,400 page report
560
00:41:44,605 --> 00:41:48,816
showing that many cases were
radar and weather anomalies,
561
00:41:48,851 --> 00:41:53,372
but confirming a number
as truly unexplainable.
562
00:41:53,407 --> 00:41:56,341
Among them were the
famous McMinnville photos
563
00:41:56,375 --> 00:41:59,517
taken on the Trent family farm,
564
00:41:59,551 --> 00:42:04,004
as well as film footage of
UFOs in Great Falls, Montana.
565
00:42:05,730 --> 00:42:08,249
As I looked up,
I saw two silvery objects
566
00:42:08,284 --> 00:42:10,079
moving swiftly out
of the northwest.
567
00:42:10,113 --> 00:42:14,566
No sound, except I thought I heard a
whooshing sound when I first saw them.
568
00:42:14,601 --> 00:42:17,051
The discs appeared
to be spinning like a top,
569
00:42:17,086 --> 00:42:18,777
and were about 50 feet across,
570
00:42:18,812 --> 00:42:20,607
which was much
slower than the jets
571
00:42:20,641 --> 00:42:23,679
which shot by shortly
after I filmed the discs.
572
00:42:23,713 --> 00:42:27,924
I could not see any exhaust,
wings or any kind of fuselage.
573
00:42:27,959 --> 00:42:31,963
They appeared to be of a bright,
shiny metal, like polished silver.
574
00:42:35,035 --> 00:42:40,454
There are cases that are not
explainable in conventional terms.
575
00:42:40,488 --> 00:42:45,148
There is the assumption of
intelligence or intelligent control,
576
00:42:45,183 --> 00:42:49,946
but not necessarily the
assumption of direct communication.
577
00:42:49,981 --> 00:42:53,501
Why are they here?
What are they doing?
578
00:42:53,536 --> 00:42:56,608
What do they want from us?
What are their motivations?
579
00:42:57,989 --> 00:43:01,579
But it was
Dr. Condon who wrote the final word.
580
00:43:14,212 --> 00:43:19,907
I was kind of woolly on that
one. You'd have to conclude
581
00:43:19,942 --> 00:43:25,706
that what we were looking at was
beyond our current state of the knowledge.
582
00:43:25,741 --> 00:43:29,296
But it began to hit me that
Dr. Condon has apparently not read
583
00:43:29,330 --> 00:43:31,298
his own material very carefully.
584
00:43:31,332 --> 00:43:33,887
You do an actual tabulation,
which he doesn't seem to have done,
585
00:43:33,921 --> 00:43:36,648
and you find his percentage
ofunexplained is five to six times
586
00:43:36,683 --> 00:43:37,925
larger than the Air Force.
587
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,031
And yet,
what is his principal recommendation?
588
00:43:40,065 --> 00:43:42,965
The principal recommendation that
Dr. Condon has come through with
589
00:43:42,999 --> 00:43:46,002
is there's nothing of scientific
interest that warrants further attention
590
00:43:46,037 --> 00:43:48,626
on the part of the federal
government here in any major way.
591
00:43:48,660 --> 00:43:51,421
He recommends dropping
the whole problem.
592
00:43:51,456 --> 00:43:56,668
Nobody could get funded. Nobody
would look at the data seriously
593
00:43:56,703 --> 00:44:00,672
because of the
prestige of the academy
594
00:44:00,707 --> 00:44:02,881
saying that the problem
had been solved.
595
00:44:02,916 --> 00:44:06,678
The Air Force closed
their reporting system,
596
00:44:06,713 --> 00:44:09,992
so that if the public
wanted to report something,
597
00:44:10,026 --> 00:44:12,373
they would report
it to the local police.
598
00:44:12,408 --> 00:44:14,755
But it would never
get to the attention
599
00:44:14,790 --> 00:44:18,897
of scientists really
examining the phenomena.
600
00:44:20,554 --> 00:44:26,905
In 1969, the Air Force
officially ended its public investigations.
601
00:44:29,459 --> 00:44:32,083
Which would suggest what?
602
00:44:32,117 --> 00:44:33,809
That they knew what it was?
603
00:44:35,431 --> 00:44:36,950
Or didn't know what it was.
604
00:44:38,054 --> 00:44:41,713
Also the other way. And
they did know what it was.
605
00:45:05,392 --> 00:45:08,809
One aspect of the
phenomenon that was swept under the rug
606
00:45:08,844 --> 00:45:12,744
was the pervasive
reporting of UFO intrusions
607
00:45:12,779 --> 00:45:17,093
at the world's most
sensitive military facilities.
608
00:45:17,128 --> 00:45:20,752
Details did not come to
light until decades later
609
00:45:20,787 --> 00:45:24,618
at the National Press Club in Washington,
DC.
610
00:45:25,861 --> 00:45:30,520
Declassified US government
documents and witness testimony
611
00:45:30,555 --> 00:45:33,869
from former or retired
US military personnel
612
00:45:33,903 --> 00:45:40,116
confirmed, beyond any doubt,
the reality of ongoing UFO incursions
613
00:45:40,151 --> 00:45:41,980
at nuclear weapon sites.
614
00:45:42,015 --> 00:45:45,501
What you have heard here today
is evidence of a phenomenon.
615
00:45:45,535 --> 00:45:48,607
It sounds fantastic,
and it is fantastic.
616
00:45:49,850 --> 00:45:53,198
In 1967,
I was a missile launch officer
617
00:45:53,233 --> 00:45:55,787
stationed at Malmstrom Air Force Base,
Montana.
618
00:45:55,822 --> 00:46:00,792
Malmstrom was
America's first line of nuclear defense,
619
00:46:00,827 --> 00:46:03,622
its silos packed with
Minutemen missiles.
620
00:46:03,657 --> 00:46:09,974
Each one nearly 100 times more powerful
than the bomb that devastated Hiroshima.
621
00:46:11,182 --> 00:46:15,220
Launch officers could,
within minutes of confirmation,
622
00:46:15,255 --> 00:46:22,227
send their birds arcing 6,000
miles to incinerate key Soviet cities,
623
00:46:22,262 --> 00:46:25,783
triggering a war that
would end our civilization.
624
00:46:39,866 --> 00:46:42,420
I was the chief of party,
I was the observer.
625
00:46:42,454 --> 00:46:47,183
Basically what I was doing was the
star observation to provide precise
626
00:46:47,218 --> 00:46:51,636
latitude and longitude on
our small three-man team.
627
00:46:51,670 --> 00:46:55,398
Came from the north
and stopped right over us,
628
00:46:55,433 --> 00:47:01,094
and it had a white light from the center,
looking down into this island.
629
00:47:01,128 --> 00:47:04,200
I just said to myself,
"What if this thing beams us up
630
00:47:04,235 --> 00:47:06,616
and takes us off to
some distant place
631
00:47:06,651 --> 00:47:08,308
and never returned
to Earth again?"
632
00:47:08,342 --> 00:47:11,863
I mean, this is going through my
head here while this thing's above me.
633
00:47:11,898 --> 00:47:15,902
And then from this dead stop,
it shoots off to the east.
634
00:47:15,936 --> 00:47:18,836
It's just like now you see it,
now you don't. It just...
635
00:47:22,909 --> 00:47:25,808
The strike team that went out,
they saw something.
636
00:47:37,613 --> 00:47:39,166
Lt. Salas was stationed
637
00:47:39,201 --> 00:47:41,893
in his underground
launch control capsule
638
00:47:41,928 --> 00:47:46,587
when he received a frantic call
from one of his topside guards.
639
00:47:46,622 --> 00:47:47,865
Screaming into the phone,
640
00:47:47,899 --> 00:47:51,627
saying they're looking
at a red glowing object
641
00:47:51,661 --> 00:47:54,216
hovering just
above our front gate.
642
00:47:54,250 --> 00:47:59,911
Our missiles began going intowhat's
called a no-go condition, or unlaunchable.
643
00:47:59,946 --> 00:48:01,326
Essentially, they were disabled.
644
00:48:03,846 --> 00:48:09,507
In fact, ten missiles
began going offline in a matter of seconds,
645
00:48:09,541 --> 00:48:11,474
one after the other.
646
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:18,136
Personally, I'm never aware of two
missiles going down at the same time,
647
00:48:18,171 --> 00:48:19,241
let alone ten.
648
00:48:19,275 --> 00:48:20,967
I was a top-secret
control officer
649
00:48:21,001 --> 00:48:24,177
and I passed down nuclear
launch authenticators.
650
00:48:24,211 --> 00:48:28,353
I can clearly recall a message coming
through my communications center
651
00:48:28,388 --> 00:48:31,909
which basically said that a UFO did,
in fact,
652
00:48:31,943 --> 00:48:35,809
shut down several
missile silos in Montana.
653
00:48:41,435 --> 00:48:44,611
I was on duty at Echo,
which is our squadron command post.
654
00:48:44,645 --> 00:48:48,477
We had strike teams respond
to alarms from the missiles.
655
00:48:48,511 --> 00:48:50,168
They were three
to five miles away.
656
00:48:50,203 --> 00:48:53,137
And they said, "Sir,
for lack of a better description,
657
00:48:53,171 --> 00:48:55,415
there's a flying saucer
hovering over that missile,
658
00:48:55,449 --> 00:48:58,970
and there's a beam of
reddish light going down to it."
659
00:49:00,006 --> 00:49:01,431
It had to be a data
collection thing.
660
00:49:01,455 --> 00:49:04,217
I'm sure they scanned
the warhead or something.
661
00:49:08,738 --> 00:49:12,950
In 1980, I was reassigned from
the Pentagon to RAF Bentwater
662
00:49:12,984 --> 00:49:14,330
as a deputy base commander.
663
00:49:14,365 --> 00:49:16,170
At that time,
Bentwaters was one of the largest
664
00:49:16,194 --> 00:49:18,610
tactical fighter
ranges in the world.
665
00:49:18,645 --> 00:49:23,546
It was also the largest
American nuclear bomb storage depot
666
00:49:23,581 --> 00:49:24,720
in Europe.
667
00:49:24,754 --> 00:49:27,585
In December 1980,
early in the morning,
668
00:49:27,619 --> 00:49:29,069
several of our
security policemen
669
00:49:29,104 --> 00:49:31,175
discovered strange
lights in the forest.
670
00:49:31,209 --> 00:49:33,556
Expecting
to find a crashed aircraft,
671
00:49:33,591 --> 00:49:39,666
they came upon an unrecognizable
object resting on the forest floor.
672
00:49:39,700 --> 00:49:45,465
They observed it for a period of time,
and it very quickly and silently vanished.
673
00:49:49,917 --> 00:49:52,230
Two nights later,
Col. Halt received
674
00:49:52,265 --> 00:49:56,338
an urgent visit from the
base security commander.
675
00:49:56,372 --> 00:49:59,858
He was white as a sheet. He said,
"It's back."
676
00:49:59,893 --> 00:50:02,482
I said, "What's back?" He said,
"The UFO."
677
00:50:04,139 --> 00:50:06,417
I took several security
policemen with me.
678
00:50:06,451 --> 00:50:10,938
I also had my small cassette recorder I
carried everywhere when I was on duty.
679
00:50:10,973 --> 00:50:13,838
- What is it?
- We don't know, sir.
680
00:50:13,872 --> 00:50:16,358
Yeah, it's a strange,
small red light.
681
00:50:16,392 --> 00:50:19,464
And all the barnyard
animals have gotten quiet now.
682
00:50:19,499 --> 00:50:20,465
Deathly calm.
683
00:50:20,500 --> 00:50:22,398
This is weird.
684
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,162
One object approached
us at very high speed.
685
00:50:27,196 --> 00:50:29,647
Here he comes from the
side. He's coming toward us now.
686
00:50:29,681 --> 00:50:33,478
I'm observing what a beam
coming down to the ground.
687
00:50:34,721 --> 00:50:36,585
This is unreal.
688
00:50:36,619 --> 00:50:37,758
We stood there in awe.
689
00:50:37,793 --> 00:50:39,933
Was this a warning?
690
00:50:39,967 --> 00:50:41,762
Was this an attempt
to communicate?
691
00:50:41,797 --> 00:50:45,352
Was this a weapon,
or just a probe?
692
00:50:45,387 --> 00:50:49,667
Just as suddenly as it appeared,
click, disappeared.
693
00:50:49,701 --> 00:50:51,496
We stood there... Oh.
694
00:50:52,532 --> 00:50:54,361
About that time,
we noticed the other object
695
00:50:54,396 --> 00:50:56,570
to the south was
sending down beams.
696
00:50:56,605 --> 00:50:59,263
About a mile,
mile and half awayover at Woodbridge Base,
697
00:50:59,297 --> 00:51:01,337
When we had great
difficulties communicating.
698
00:51:01,368 --> 00:51:04,026
But we were able to discern that
some of those beams were either
699
00:51:04,061 --> 00:51:06,304
falling into or near the
weapons storage area,
700
00:51:06,339 --> 00:51:08,789
and there was a
great deal of concern.
701
00:51:08,824 --> 00:51:12,931
I also found out later that
both the tower operators at Bentwaters
702
00:51:12,966 --> 00:51:17,557
saw an object and picked it up
on their bright radar and watched it.
703
00:51:17,591 --> 00:51:20,077
I was just sitting there
and I happened to see
704
00:51:20,111 --> 00:51:22,527
a dot come on the scope,
705
00:51:22,562 --> 00:51:25,565
and it just went like,
one dot at the beginning,
706
00:51:25,599 --> 00:51:28,015
then another dot,
then another dot, and it was gone.
707
00:51:28,050 --> 00:51:32,537
A nd then it made an immediate right-hand
turn and came right towards the base.
708
00:51:32,572 --> 00:51:34,194
Just absolutely phenomenal.
709
00:51:34,229 --> 00:51:37,404
It's not like any radar
target I've ever seen,
710
00:51:37,439 --> 00:51:40,959
traveling at an extremely
high rate of speed.
711
00:51:40,994 --> 00:51:43,997
It passed over
the control tower,
712
00:51:44,031 --> 00:51:47,863
and then it stopped. It
was an orangish color.
713
00:51:47,897 --> 00:51:50,072
Sort of popped into
my mind at the time
714
00:51:50,107 --> 00:51:53,006
that somebody's flying
a basketball out here.
715
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:56,906
There were, like,
lights around the center of it.
716
00:51:56,941 --> 00:51:58,977
It was more like portholes.
717
00:51:59,012 --> 00:52:02,119
And then you were seeing
the light from the inside.
718
00:52:02,153 --> 00:52:06,364
But it hovered momentarily,
reversed its course,
719
00:52:06,399 --> 00:52:09,988
and went back out at
a high rate of speed.
720
00:52:12,336 --> 00:52:15,235
Even more
alarming incidents took place
721
00:52:15,270 --> 00:52:17,686
on both sides of the Cold War.
722
00:52:20,275 --> 00:52:23,485
According to
once secret Soviet documents,
723
00:52:23,519 --> 00:52:29,007
a UFO hovered over a Ukrainian
nuclear base for nearly an hour.
724
00:52:29,939 --> 00:52:32,218
Inexplicably, several missiles
725
00:52:32,252 --> 00:52:35,359
suddenly switched to
full combat readiness
726
00:52:35,393 --> 00:52:40,950
and began a launch sequence
without any authentication codes.
727
00:52:40,985 --> 00:52:43,505
After 15 heart-stopping seconds,
728
00:52:43,539 --> 00:52:46,439
the countdown to a
potential Armageddon
729
00:52:46,473 --> 00:52:51,478
ceased as abruptly
as it had started.
730
00:52:51,513 --> 00:52:54,274
As this object
passed over the missile site,
731
00:52:54,309 --> 00:52:57,691
we would start getting erratic
indications on that missile.
732
00:52:57,726 --> 00:53:00,107
The bad thing was we
also had a launch indicator.
733
00:53:00,142 --> 00:53:03,697
Does that mean that the
launch sequence has been triggered?
734
00:53:03,732 --> 00:53:07,184
That means that the
missile has received a launch signal.
735
00:53:07,218 --> 00:53:10,532
The countdown
had to be manually aborted.
736
00:53:11,947 --> 00:53:13,742
We had UFOs in the air...
737
00:53:13,776 --> 00:53:17,608
These witnesses are some
of the most highly-vetted military officers
738
00:53:17,642 --> 00:53:21,059
in charge of the world's
most devastating armaments.
739
00:53:22,233 --> 00:53:24,822
If what they're
reporting is accurate,
740
00:53:24,856 --> 00:53:28,135
then the pattern
is hard to avoid.
741
00:53:28,170 --> 00:53:33,831
UFOs have been making incursions
into top-security nuclear facilities
742
00:53:33,865 --> 00:53:36,385
decade after decade.
743
00:53:37,110 --> 00:53:38,560
To me, it's pretty clear.
744
00:53:38,594 --> 00:53:42,115
"We're shining a light on this,
we're pointing it out.
745
00:53:42,149 --> 00:53:45,429
What are you people doing
with nuclear weapons?"
746
00:54:30,888 --> 00:54:33,994
As the '90s
dawned and the walls fell down,
747
00:54:34,029 --> 00:54:37,964
it was as if humanity itself
was demanding to be seen
748
00:54:37,998 --> 00:54:41,105
as one people and one world.
749
00:54:41,139 --> 00:54:43,280
The Soviet Union had dissolved
750
00:54:43,314 --> 00:54:46,110
and history's spotlight
began to shine
751
00:54:46,144 --> 00:54:48,561
on long-darkened corners.
752
00:54:49,355 --> 00:54:51,115
Different officials were looking
753
00:54:51,149 --> 00:54:53,255
for ways to open
dialogue with the West,
754
00:54:53,290 --> 00:54:58,018
and embrace all the
changes that were underway
755
00:54:58,053 --> 00:54:59,365
in their country at the time.
756
00:54:59,399 --> 00:55:02,160
This is George Knapp in Moscow,
the city many are...
757
00:55:02,195 --> 00:55:04,335
Knapp's
team was invited to Moscow,
758
00:55:04,370 --> 00:55:06,544
by government
and military officials
759
00:55:06,579 --> 00:55:10,962
who were willing to share
decades' worth of UFO files.
760
00:55:12,723 --> 00:55:14,276
Gen. Igor Maltsev,
761
00:55:14,311 --> 00:55:17,521
for seven years, commander of
the entire Soviet air defense system
762
00:55:17,555 --> 00:55:20,800
recalls a UFO flap
over Moscow in 1990.
763
00:55:20,834 --> 00:55:24,907
Hundreds of visual and radar
observations by military personnel.
764
00:55:24,942 --> 00:55:29,705
Maltsev confirms his standing order was,
"Don't fire on the UFOs".
765
00:55:29,740 --> 00:55:33,019
March 1991,
radar at the Leningrad airport
766
00:55:33,053 --> 00:55:37,092
detects first one, then two,
then three unidentified objects
767
00:55:37,126 --> 00:55:38,749
hovering over a nuclear plant.
768
00:55:38,783 --> 00:55:43,443
From a dead stop, the UFO
zipped away at 2,000 miles per hour.
769
00:55:43,478 --> 00:55:45,997
Jacques Vallee was
one of few Westerners
770
00:55:46,032 --> 00:55:47,827
to personally
investigate the case
771
00:55:47,861 --> 00:55:50,036
by meeting with Russian
sources firsthand.
772
00:55:50,070 --> 00:55:54,420
An object hovered near a
nuclear power plant in Voronezh
773
00:55:54,454 --> 00:55:57,250
and a beam from that object
melted the asphalt there.
774
00:55:57,284 --> 00:55:59,079
The intention was,
maybe we would be
775
00:55:59,114 --> 00:56:00,771
able to find out
from the Russians
776
00:56:00,805 --> 00:56:04,499
more about what the American
government knows about UFOs
777
00:56:04,533 --> 00:56:06,684
than we will ever learn from
the American government itself.
778
00:56:06,708 --> 00:56:09,918
- Governor, you ready to take the oath?
- I am.
779
00:56:09,952 --> 00:56:12,230
When a young,
open-minded president,
780
00:56:12,265 --> 00:56:13,991
was sworn in,
781
00:56:14,025 --> 00:56:17,857
one of America's most highly
placed civilians saw a chance
782
00:56:17,891 --> 00:56:20,929
for a new government
transparency on the phenomenon.
783
00:56:20,963 --> 00:56:25,451
As a means of access to
people to the wonders of nature...
784
00:56:25,485 --> 00:56:27,763
Heir to the power and influence
785
00:56:27,798 --> 00:56:30,352
of one of the world's
wealthiest families,
786
00:56:30,387 --> 00:56:31,733
Laurance Rockefeller,
787
00:56:31,767 --> 00:56:34,770
philanthropist and
conservationist,
788
00:56:34,805 --> 00:56:38,705
also had a passionate
interest in UFOs.
789
00:56:38,740 --> 00:56:44,642
His idea was to
approach the President
790
00:56:44,677 --> 00:56:50,130
with a plea for making
available the data
791
00:56:50,165 --> 00:56:53,479
that the government
had on the subject.
792
00:56:53,513 --> 00:56:56,171
The first inclination by,
793
00:56:56,205 --> 00:56:59,450
particularly people
in government
794
00:56:59,485 --> 00:57:01,452
is, "You got to be kidding me".
795
00:57:01,487 --> 00:57:04,282
You want me to risk my career
796
00:57:04,317 --> 00:57:06,802
by getting deeply into
797
00:57:06,837 --> 00:57:09,598
the rabbit hole of
talking about UFOs?"
798
00:57:09,633 --> 00:57:14,465
And so there's a
tremendous resistance.
799
00:57:14,500 --> 00:57:18,124
Rockefeller met with
President Clinton's science advisor,
800
00:57:18,158 --> 00:57:20,333
Jack Gibbons,
at the White House,.
801
00:57:20,367 --> 00:57:23,612
And persuaded
him to take action.
802
00:57:23,647 --> 00:57:26,477
Rockefeller was then
asked to pick a case
803
00:57:26,512 --> 00:57:29,411
that the White House
should attempt to declassify.
804
00:57:30,895 --> 00:57:34,761
He chose the 1947
Roswell incident,
805
00:57:34,796 --> 00:57:39,835
noting, "Many are convinced
that Roswell marks the beginning
806
00:57:39,870 --> 00:57:42,942
of government
secrecy about UFO's".
807
00:57:43,908 --> 00:57:47,394
Jack had actually
gone to the Air Force,
808
00:57:47,429 --> 00:57:50,190
asked then-Secretary Widnall,
809
00:57:50,225 --> 00:57:52,020
who was the Secretary
of the Air Force,
810
00:57:52,054 --> 00:57:54,540
to take a look, particularly,
811
00:57:54,574 --> 00:57:57,819
at the records around Roswell,
New Mexico.
812
00:57:57,853 --> 00:57:59,959
"Dear Colonel Cavitt.
813
00:57:59,993 --> 00:58:03,997
The General Accounting Office,
seeks to fully explain the claim
814
00:58:04,032 --> 00:58:08,450
that the US government
recovered an alien spacecraft
815
00:58:08,485 --> 00:58:12,523
near Roswell,
New Mexico, in July 1947,
816
00:58:12,558 --> 00:58:15,871
and since that time
has covered up that fact.
817
00:58:17,701 --> 00:58:19,496
The Army
Air Forces has announced
818
00:58:19,530 --> 00:58:20,980
that a flying disc
has been found
819
00:58:21,014 --> 00:58:22,982
and is now in the
possession of the Army.
820
00:58:41,518 --> 00:58:43,381
Roswell was then home
821
00:58:43,416 --> 00:58:45,936
to the world's only
nuclear air wing,
822
00:58:45,970 --> 00:58:48,628
including the B-29
that had dropped
823
00:58:48,663 --> 00:58:51,562
the first atomic
bomb on Hiroshima.
824
00:58:53,115 --> 00:58:57,464
The base's chief intelligence officer,
Maj. Jesse Marcel,
825
00:58:57,499 --> 00:59:00,606
was dispatched to the
ranch to investigate.
826
00:59:08,337 --> 00:59:10,581
Marcel and another officer
827
00:59:10,616 --> 00:59:13,860
were the first military to
arrive at the crash site.
828
00:59:13,895 --> 00:59:18,209
They came upon an expanse
of unrecognizable debris
829
00:59:18,244 --> 00:59:19,486
strewn across an area
830
00:59:19,521 --> 00:59:22,662
the size of a dozen
football fields.
831
00:59:29,807 --> 00:59:32,948
We found a piece
of metal... Uh...
832
00:59:32,983 --> 00:59:35,848
About a foot and
half to two feet wide.
833
00:59:44,235 --> 00:59:46,755
The thing that got me is that
834
00:59:46,790 --> 00:59:49,827
you couldn't even bend
it. You couldn't dent it.
835
00:59:49,862 --> 00:59:52,105
Even a sledgehammer
would bounce off it.
836
00:59:53,382 --> 00:59:55,074
Marcel
was ordered to immediately
837
00:59:55,108 --> 00:59:57,317
transport the strange wreckage
838
00:59:57,352 --> 01:00:00,458
to Fort Worth Army Airfield.
839
01:00:00,493 --> 01:00:03,600
There,
Marcel was met by the commanding general,
840
01:00:03,634 --> 01:00:05,602
who told him to keep silent
841
01:00:05,636 --> 01:00:09,467
in the face of what was
becoming a media frenzy.
842
01:00:09,502 --> 01:00:13,471
They had a whole flock
of microphones there.
843
01:00:13,506 --> 01:00:15,335
They wanted some
comments from me,
844
01:00:15,370 --> 01:00:17,648
but I wasn't at
liberty to do that.
845
01:00:19,685 --> 01:00:22,273
Marcel was
instead ordered to pose
846
01:00:22,308 --> 01:00:25,276
with wood,
foil and rubber debris,
847
01:00:25,311 --> 01:00:27,589
from a conventional
weather balloon.
848
01:00:28,901 --> 01:00:31,938
All I could do is
keep my mouth shut.
849
01:00:31,973 --> 01:00:34,976
And Gen. Ramey is the
one who told the newspapers
850
01:00:35,010 --> 01:00:38,117
what it was and
to forget about it.
851
01:00:38,151 --> 01:00:41,914
It was nothing more than a
weather observation balloon.
852
01:00:41,948 --> 01:00:45,193
Of course,
we both knew differently.
853
01:00:45,227 --> 01:00:47,505
Col. Thomas DuBose, who was also
854
01:00:47,540 --> 01:00:49,922
ordered to pose
with the fake debris,
855
01:00:49,956 --> 01:00:54,961
describes how an iron curtain
of secrecy slammed down.
856
01:01:14,878 --> 01:01:16,718
Congressman Schiff,
what got you interested
857
01:01:16,742 --> 01:01:18,675
in this subject per se?
858
01:01:18,709 --> 01:01:20,159
I started receiving letters
859
01:01:20,193 --> 01:01:23,024
a little over two years
ago from constituents,
860
01:01:23,058 --> 01:01:25,440
stating that they believe the
government was covering up
861
01:01:25,474 --> 01:01:26,855
what happened at Roswell.
862
01:01:26,890 --> 01:01:29,030
Many of them clearly believed,
863
01:01:29,064 --> 01:01:32,136
that it was, in fact,
an extraterrestrial crash.
864
01:01:32,171 --> 01:01:34,173
The weather balloon
story never made sense
865
01:01:34,207 --> 01:01:37,107
because it was clearly,
and undisputed in my mind,
866
01:01:37,141 --> 01:01:39,626
extra military
attention to this matter,
867
01:01:39,661 --> 01:01:41,698
from extra security
around the crash scene
868
01:01:41,732 --> 01:01:44,390
to special handling of
whatever the debris was.
869
01:01:44,424 --> 01:01:47,738
That could fit a
classified project.
870
01:01:47,773 --> 01:01:49,809
It doesn't fit a
weather balloon.
871
01:01:51,431 --> 01:01:53,571
In September 1994,
872
01:01:53,606 --> 01:01:56,782
the Air Force
issued its response.
873
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:05,066
The Air Force claimed it was a
secret project of weather balloons
874
01:02:05,100 --> 01:02:07,931
hung with box kites
and microphones,
875
01:02:07,965 --> 01:02:11,175
to spy on Soviet nuclear tests.
876
01:02:12,487 --> 01:02:14,696
Please roll the video.
877
01:02:14,731 --> 01:02:16,111
There's a famous box kite
878
01:02:16,146 --> 01:02:18,907
that became the
famous flying disc.
879
01:02:18,942 --> 01:02:23,187
Weather balloons that
were on the balloon train.
880
01:02:23,222 --> 01:02:26,501
Same rubber balloon,
same foil box kite
881
01:02:26,535 --> 01:02:28,814
as the original cover story,
882
01:02:28,848 --> 01:02:30,850
only many of them
strung together
883
01:02:30,885 --> 01:02:35,061
with microphones
dangling beneath.
884
01:02:35,096 --> 01:02:37,823
That's the tin foil paper,
rubber and sticks that they recovered
885
01:02:37,857 --> 01:02:40,308
in the desert near
New Mexico in 1947.
886
01:02:41,827 --> 01:02:44,450
The Air Force,
nearly 50 years later,
887
01:02:44,484 --> 01:02:46,970
was basically
telling the same tale.
888
01:02:48,005 --> 01:02:50,111
That the top security personnel
889
01:02:50,145 --> 01:02:53,252
of the world's only
atomic-bombing wing
890
01:02:53,286 --> 01:02:56,186
really had mistaken this rubber,
wood
891
01:02:56,220 --> 01:02:59,948
and tin foil for a
crashed flying saucer.
892
01:03:01,985 --> 01:03:03,296
Being an intelligence officer,
893
01:03:03,331 --> 01:03:05,678
I was familiar with just
about all the materials used
894
01:03:05,712 --> 01:03:09,268
in aircraft and/or air travel.
895
01:03:09,302 --> 01:03:10,994
This is nothing like that.
896
01:03:11,028 --> 01:03:15,619
It was not anything from this
Earth. That I'm quite sure of.
897
01:03:15,653 --> 01:03:18,449
My suspicion is that
898
01:03:18,484 --> 01:03:21,245
the Roswell incident did happen,
899
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:25,629
and something maybe
not from our universe,
900
01:03:25,663 --> 01:03:27,493
went down there.
901
01:03:27,527 --> 01:03:30,082
And we should...
902
01:03:30,116 --> 01:03:32,809
allow the American
people to make a judgment
903
01:03:32,843 --> 01:03:35,570
on what that might
have been by disclosing.
904
01:03:35,604 --> 01:03:37,089
I mean, this is probably
905
01:03:37,123 --> 01:03:41,334
the most blatant
case of overreaction
906
01:03:41,369 --> 01:03:43,820
to what is national security.
907
01:03:43,854 --> 01:03:45,787
The public has a right to know.
908
01:03:48,341 --> 01:03:50,999
Rockefeller put
together a briefing document
909
01:03:51,034 --> 01:03:53,691
intended for world leaders
910
01:03:53,726 --> 01:03:55,728
with a sobering observation.
911
01:03:57,419 --> 01:04:01,320
It is conceivable that
even the President himself
912
01:04:01,354 --> 01:04:03,840
is not fully briefed on matters
913
01:04:03,874 --> 01:04:06,843
classified as
"above top secret."
914
01:04:09,052 --> 01:04:10,777
I did attempt to
find out if there were
915
01:04:10,812 --> 01:04:12,745
any secret government documents
916
01:04:12,779 --> 01:04:15,023
that reveal things,
and if there were,
917
01:04:15,058 --> 01:04:16,680
they were concealed from me,
too.
918
01:04:16,714 --> 01:04:18,475
I wouldn't be
the first president
919
01:04:18,509 --> 01:04:20,235
that underlings have lied to
920
01:04:20,270 --> 01:04:22,928
or the career bureaucrats
have waited out.
921
01:04:22,962 --> 01:04:27,933
But there may be some career
person sitting around somewhere
922
01:04:27,967 --> 01:04:30,936
hiding these dark secrets,
even from elected presidents.
923
01:04:30,970 --> 01:04:33,490
But if so,
they successfully eluded me.
924
01:04:33,524 --> 01:04:37,321
And I'm almost embarrassed totell you,
I did try to find out.
925
01:04:40,014 --> 01:04:41,843
Three feet for second contact.
926
01:04:41,878 --> 01:04:43,017
That was a beautiful one.
927
01:04:43,051 --> 01:04:45,467
Apollo astronaut Edgar Mitchell,
928
01:04:45,502 --> 01:04:47,504
who had grown up around Roswell,
929
01:04:47,538 --> 01:04:51,957
was an aerospace insider with
deep Pentagon connections.
930
01:04:53,717 --> 01:04:56,789
He became convinced
there were UFO secrets
931
01:04:56,823 --> 01:04:59,757
concealed from normal
government channels.
932
01:04:59,792 --> 01:05:02,415
Well,
if the accounts are to be believed...
933
01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:06,040
Yes,
there have been ET visitation.
934
01:05:06,074 --> 01:05:08,870
There have been crashed craft.
935
01:05:08,905 --> 01:05:13,875
There have beenmaterial
and bodies recovered...
936
01:05:13,910 --> 01:05:17,258
and there is some group
of people somewhere
937
01:05:18,017 --> 01:05:21,089
that may or may not be
938
01:05:21,124 --> 01:05:23,022
associated with the
government at this point,
939
01:05:23,057 --> 01:05:25,473
but certainly were at one time,
940
01:05:25,507 --> 01:05:27,268
that have this knowledge.
941
01:05:42,214 --> 01:05:46,045
No one has proven
there's nothing to it.
942
01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:48,703
No one's had the
opportunity to prove
943
01:05:48,737 --> 01:05:52,879
there's something to it,
and that's what I did.
944
01:05:52,914 --> 01:05:54,571
And every passing day...
945
01:05:54,605 --> 01:05:58,092
In 2007,
the most powerful man in the Senate,
946
01:05:58,126 --> 01:06:00,680
majority leader Harry Reid,
947
01:06:00,715 --> 01:06:02,682
persuaded two colleagues,
948
01:06:02,717 --> 01:06:05,962
Senators Ted Stevens
and Daniel Inouye,
949
01:06:05,996 --> 01:06:08,378
to secretly allocate millions
950
01:06:08,412 --> 01:06:13,831
in Defense Department
funds to investigate UFOs.
951
01:06:13,866 --> 01:06:18,215
The covert program operated from
the tail end of the Bush presidency,
952
01:06:18,250 --> 01:06:20,838
through the Obama
administration,
953
01:06:20,873 --> 01:06:24,325
and into Donald
Trump's first year in office.
954
01:06:27,224 --> 01:06:30,607
In December of 2017,
the lid blew off.
955
01:06:35,922 --> 01:06:38,408
At long last,
the government was admitting
956
01:06:38,442 --> 01:06:42,308
a modern-day program
to investigate UFOs
957
01:06:42,343 --> 01:06:45,415
and released startling
official evidence,
958
01:06:45,449 --> 01:06:50,868
including videotapes from
the cockpits of military aircraft.
959
01:06:52,215 --> 01:06:54,803
One of the key authors
ofThe Times story
960
01:06:54,838 --> 01:06:56,426
was investigative journalist
961
01:06:56,460 --> 01:06:59,429
and best-selling
author Leslie Kean.
962
01:06:59,463 --> 01:07:02,915
She went to Washington
to meet with Luis Elizondo,
963
01:07:02,949 --> 01:07:05,400
who had just resigned
from his position
964
01:07:05,435 --> 01:07:09,749
as head of the secret
Pentagon UFO program.
965
01:07:09,784 --> 01:07:11,268
I was invited to this meeting.
966
01:07:11,303 --> 01:07:14,375
They wanted me to meet Mr. Elizondo,
to see what could happen.
967
01:07:14,409 --> 01:07:16,480
Objects that are moving so fast
968
01:07:16,515 --> 01:07:19,104
and yet we don't see an
ionization trail in the air
969
01:07:19,138 --> 01:07:21,002
and you don't hear a sonic boom.
970
01:07:21,037 --> 01:07:23,142
How is that possible?
Another one is...
971
01:07:23,177 --> 01:07:25,489
Elizondo's
colleagues took her aside
972
01:07:25,524 --> 01:07:28,527
to reveal some
extraordinary documentation
973
01:07:28,561 --> 01:07:31,047
related to the program.
974
01:07:31,081 --> 01:07:33,152
I wasn't allowed
to take anything with me.
975
01:07:33,187 --> 01:07:35,948
I mean, the most importantevidence
that was shared with me
976
01:07:35,982 --> 01:07:37,087
at the meeting regarding
977
01:07:37,122 --> 01:07:39,469
the phenomenon itself,
were the videos.
978
01:07:50,825 --> 01:07:53,655
I knew this was breaking news for
the front page of The New York Times.
979
01:08:05,150 --> 01:08:07,462
My co-author, Ralph Blumenthal,
980
01:08:07,497 --> 01:08:09,499
and I set up a meeting
with Mark Mazzetti
981
01:08:09,533 --> 01:08:12,260
and said,
"We have this explosive story."
982
01:08:12,295 --> 01:08:14,780
Sat down with him in the New
York office of The New York Times
983
01:08:14,814 --> 01:08:16,575
and we brought in
all the documents.
984
01:08:16,609 --> 01:08:17,955
"These are the videos.
985
01:08:17,990 --> 01:08:20,441
Here's other documents that
show the existence of the program.
986
01:08:20,475 --> 01:08:23,306
And here's what they've studiedand
here's what they've learned.
987
01:08:23,340 --> 01:08:26,274
And there's a letter from
Harry Reid about the program."
988
01:08:27,379 --> 01:08:29,070
Elizondo's colleague,
989
01:08:29,105 --> 01:08:31,245
the former deputy
assistant secretary
990
01:08:31,279 --> 01:08:33,730
of defense for intelligence,
991
01:08:33,764 --> 01:08:35,801
Christopher Mellon, managed to
992
01:08:35,835 --> 01:08:38,079
obtain the tapes
from the Pentagon,
993
01:08:38,114 --> 01:08:42,014
and choseThe New York
Times to break the story.
994
01:08:42,048 --> 01:08:44,154
I received the videos,
995
01:08:44,189 --> 01:08:47,226
the now-famous videos,
in the Pentagon parking lot
996
01:08:47,261 --> 01:08:49,228
from a Defense
Department official.
997
01:08:49,263 --> 01:08:51,851
I still have the originals
in the packaging.
998
01:08:51,886 --> 01:08:56,339
This is a case where somebody
bent the rules a little bit,
999
01:08:56,373 --> 01:09:00,170
and they did so
for the larger good.
1000
01:09:00,205 --> 01:09:03,898
And we're absolutely
all better off because of it.
1001
01:09:03,932 --> 01:09:05,175
In the end, I have to say,
1002
01:09:05,210 --> 01:09:07,039
I was still extraordinarily
1003
01:09:07,073 --> 01:09:09,697
disappointed with
The New York Times,
1004
01:09:09,731 --> 01:09:14,598
because they focused on
this small AATIP program.
1005
01:09:14,633 --> 01:09:18,326
And the real story, in my mind at least,
should have been,
1006
01:09:18,361 --> 01:09:21,812
"These things are real,
they're here.
1007
01:09:21,847 --> 01:09:23,676
This is happening now."
1008
01:09:26,921 --> 01:09:28,647
One of the Pentagon cases
1009
01:09:28,681 --> 01:09:30,511
reported byThe New York Times,
1010
01:09:30,545 --> 01:09:33,203
was an encounter
by Naval aircraft,
1011
01:09:33,238 --> 01:09:37,932
about 200 miles off the coast of San Diego,
California.
1012
01:09:37,966 --> 01:09:39,185
Fifty-five hundred
people that were on
1013
01:09:39,209 --> 01:09:41,142
the Nimitzin 2004,
when this happened,
1014
01:09:41,177 --> 01:09:44,007
and I guarantee every
single one of them
1015
01:09:44,041 --> 01:09:45,733
knows that this event happened.
1016
01:09:45,767 --> 01:09:48,563
That's a whole air wing.
That's Mount Fuji. That's Japan.
1017
01:09:48,598 --> 01:09:52,222
Commander David
Fravor was leading a training exercise
1018
01:09:52,257 --> 01:09:55,501
from theUSS Nimitz
carrier strike group
1019
01:09:55,536 --> 01:09:59,781
when he was abruptly ordered
to investigate an unknown target
1020
01:09:59,816 --> 01:10:03,475
that had appeared on one
of the ship's radar scopes.
1021
01:10:03,509 --> 01:10:05,960
We're gonna suspend the
training we have real-world tasking.
1022
01:10:05,994 --> 01:10:07,651
So we're like, "Okay, cool."
1023
01:10:07,686 --> 01:10:10,861
He and
another F-18 Super Hornet,
1024
01:10:10,896 --> 01:10:15,141
each carrying two airmen,
zoomed toward the coordinates.
1025
01:10:15,176 --> 01:10:17,385
It was myself and my WSO
1026
01:10:17,420 --> 01:10:19,422
and the other pilot and
the WSO in the back seat
1027
01:10:19,456 --> 01:10:21,113
of that airplane. So,
there's four of us.
1028
01:10:23,011 --> 01:10:24,575
When they arrived,
they first saw
1029
01:10:24,599 --> 01:10:27,326
what appeared
to be a large object
1030
01:10:27,361 --> 01:10:29,984
slightly below the
surface of the ocean,
1031
01:10:30,018 --> 01:10:32,400
with a strange oval-shaped craft
1032
01:10:32,435 --> 01:10:35,576
darting around in
the air just above it.
1033
01:10:35,610 --> 01:10:38,993
If you picture a Tic Tac
that's about 40 feet long,
1034
01:10:39,027 --> 01:10:41,064
round on both ends, no rivets,
1035
01:10:41,098 --> 01:10:43,687
no metal, smooth,
white. It was white.
1036
01:10:43,722 --> 01:10:47,208
It was just smooth. No wings,
no propulsion, no windows.
1037
01:10:47,243 --> 01:10:50,222
It didn't matter which way it was pointing
because as it was moving over the water,
1038
01:10:50,246 --> 01:10:53,525
it never turned. It never
changed its longitudinal axis.
1039
01:10:53,559 --> 01:10:56,769
It went fore, aft, left,
right. It was just doing this.
1040
01:10:56,804 --> 01:10:59,703
And I said, "Hey,
I'm gonna go check that out."
1041
01:11:04,743 --> 01:11:07,297
All of a sudden, you just see
itturn its body and go...
1042
01:11:07,332 --> 01:11:08,954
And start coming
up at you. You go,
1043
01:11:08,988 --> 01:11:11,543
"That was rather interesting."
1044
01:11:11,577 --> 01:11:14,960
We're just looking at it. We're
doing this. We're looking at it.
1045
01:11:14,994 --> 01:11:16,962
We're looking at
it. We go around.
1046
01:11:16,996 --> 01:11:18,974
All the way around the outside of a circle,
180 degrees.
1047
01:11:18,998 --> 01:11:22,623
Well, I know where he's going,
so I'll just go over there.
1048
01:11:27,179 --> 01:11:29,319
This thing goes
"poof" and it's gone.
1049
01:11:29,354 --> 01:11:33,185
I mean,
literally that fast. Gone.
1050
01:11:34,738 --> 01:11:36,233
You can think about
what we're saying. Like,
1051
01:11:36,257 --> 01:11:39,329
"Holy shit. What
the... is that?"
1052
01:11:39,364 --> 01:11:41,987
And then there's a lot of,
"Dude, what the...
1053
01:11:42,021 --> 01:11:43,333
Did you guys see that?
1054
01:11:43,368 --> 01:11:45,059
Do you guys see
it?" And they're like,
1055
01:11:45,093 --> 01:11:47,164
"It's gone. We don't see shit."
1056
01:11:48,269 --> 01:11:52,238
Nothing accelerates
that fast. You're talking...
1057
01:11:52,273 --> 01:11:54,413
Something that
not only accelerated
1058
01:11:54,448 --> 01:11:56,795
beyond anything
that we had seen,
1059
01:11:56,829 --> 01:11:58,452
but it just was...
1060
01:12:00,177 --> 01:12:01,593
The controller
comes up and says,
1061
01:12:01,627 --> 01:12:03,733
"Hey,
you're not gonna believe this,
1062
01:12:03,767 --> 01:12:07,012
but that thing is back
at your CAD point."
1063
01:12:07,046 --> 01:12:11,119
Meaning the object
had instantly reappeared at the precise
1064
01:12:11,154 --> 01:12:13,432
secret coordinates
of the fleet's
1065
01:12:13,467 --> 01:12:17,056
critical aerial defense zone.
1066
01:12:17,091 --> 01:12:19,127
It obviously had some awareness.
1067
01:12:19,162 --> 01:12:21,544
It knew where we were going.
1068
01:12:21,578 --> 01:12:25,375
It'll make the hair on the
back of your neck stand up.
1069
01:12:25,410 --> 01:12:27,308
I actually told my back seater,
I said,
1070
01:12:27,343 --> 01:12:29,828
"I don't know about you.
I'm pretty weirded out."
1071
01:12:32,589 --> 01:12:35,592
More jets equipped
with the Navy's most advanced
1072
01:12:35,627 --> 01:12:40,425
radar visual tracking
systems were scrambled.
1073
01:12:40,459 --> 01:12:43,980
This time,
capturing the object on video.
1074
01:12:44,014 --> 01:12:46,845
First thing he
gets is a little blip on the radar.
1075
01:12:46,879 --> 01:12:51,988
He puts his cursors over it,
and he tries to grab a lock on it.
1076
01:12:53,921 --> 01:12:55,201
Basically, when you take a lock,
1077
01:12:55,232 --> 01:12:58,063
you tell the radar,
"Look at that location,
1078
01:12:58,097 --> 01:13:01,411
and stare at it,
and put all your energy on that point."
1079
01:13:01,446 --> 01:13:03,862
Well, as soon as it does it,
the radar gets indications
1080
01:13:03,896 --> 01:13:06,727
that it's being jammed by
the object it's trying to lock.
1081
01:13:10,109 --> 01:13:12,388
The infrared sees
differing temperatures,
1082
01:13:12,422 --> 01:13:15,839
so the Tic Tac is hotter
than the air around it.
1083
01:13:15,874 --> 01:13:18,980
It doesn't have to be by much,
but it's gonna appear white.
1084
01:13:19,015 --> 01:13:20,499
They're driving straight at it.
1085
01:13:21,500 --> 01:13:23,571
It's just kind of
hovering there.
1086
01:13:23,606 --> 01:13:27,368
And then it goes "poof" and it takes off,
off the side.
1087
01:13:29,819 --> 01:13:33,409
I just don't know.
I doubt that we...
1088
01:13:33,443 --> 01:13:35,549
have developed that technology.
1089
01:13:37,758 --> 01:13:41,865
I interviewed three
of the four aviators
1090
01:13:41,900 --> 01:13:44,972
who were with Dave,
during that encounter,
1091
01:13:45,006 --> 01:13:49,355
and it was readily apparent
to everyone involved that
1092
01:13:49,390 --> 01:13:51,599
that vehicle had what they call
1093
01:13:51,634 --> 01:13:54,015
"dominant battlespace
awareness."
1094
01:13:54,050 --> 01:13:58,951
It was in control of that
engagement from the outset.
1095
01:13:58,986 --> 01:14:03,369
There was no question
that it completely outmatched
1096
01:14:03,404 --> 01:14:05,613
our frontline fighters.
1097
01:14:05,648 --> 01:14:09,583
I served on the Special Access
Program Oversight Committee,
1098
01:14:09,617 --> 01:14:12,551
so I had access to all of the
black programs in those days.
1099
01:14:12,586 --> 01:14:14,760
We know perfectly well
there's nothing like that
1100
01:14:14,795 --> 01:14:17,867
behind the scenes or
even on the drawing boards.
1101
01:14:20,456 --> 01:14:22,596
Senator Harry Reid,
who instigated
1102
01:14:22,630 --> 01:14:25,633
the secret Pentagon UFO program,
1103
01:14:25,668 --> 01:14:28,325
confirmed what
nuclear launch officers
1104
01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:30,604
have been reporting for decades.
1105
01:14:32,537 --> 01:14:35,367
UFOs have
interfered with our country's
1106
01:14:35,401 --> 01:14:37,818
most powerful weapons.
1107
01:14:43,755 --> 01:14:45,584
Did you have anybody
1108
01:14:45,619 --> 01:14:48,622
in the Defense Department,
the Pentagon,
1109
01:14:48,656 --> 01:14:54,075
pull you aside, bend your ear and say,
"Why are you doing this?"
1110
01:14:54,110 --> 01:14:55,732
They did everything they could
1111
01:14:55,767 --> 01:14:58,079
to stop the program
from going forward.
1112
01:14:58,114 --> 01:15:01,876
They gave the person that
came in initially such a bad time.
1113
01:15:01,911 --> 01:15:03,844
He's fortunate to
have hung on to his job
1114
01:15:03,878 --> 01:15:05,673
because people
tried to get rid of him,
1115
01:15:05,708 --> 01:15:08,987
because they wanted
nothing to do with this.
1116
01:15:09,021 --> 01:15:13,301
The Defense Intelligence
Agency was one of the worst.
1117
01:15:13,336 --> 01:15:14,820
They drug their feet,
1118
01:15:14,855 --> 01:15:17,513
even though there was
one of their senior scientists
1119
01:15:17,547 --> 01:15:19,342
thought they
should look at this.
1120
01:15:19,376 --> 01:15:22,345
And remember,
all we're saying...
1121
01:15:22,379 --> 01:15:26,004
Nobody has to
agree why it's there.
1122
01:15:26,038 --> 01:15:28,938
But shouldn't we at least
be spending some money
1123
01:15:28,972 --> 01:15:30,974
to study all these phenomenon?
1124
01:15:31,009 --> 01:15:35,082
Shouldn't we study this
stuff? The answer is yes.
1125
01:15:35,116 --> 01:15:36,911
And that's all this was about,
1126
01:15:36,946 --> 01:15:41,813
and why the federal government,
all these years, has covered up,
1127
01:15:41,847 --> 01:15:45,541
put brake pads on
everything. Stopped it.
1128
01:15:45,575 --> 01:15:48,923
I think it's very,
very bad for our country.
1129
01:15:54,515 --> 01:15:56,517
I interviewed Gordon Cooper,
1130
01:15:56,552 --> 01:15:59,244
Mercury astronaut Gordon Cooper,
back in the '90s.
1131
01:15:59,278 --> 01:16:01,211
Cooper said on camera
1132
01:16:01,246 --> 01:16:04,594
that there was a
landed UFO circa 1957
1133
01:16:04,629 --> 01:16:06,941
at Edwards Air Force Base.
His camera crew captured
1134
01:16:06,976 --> 01:16:08,633
the filming of this object,
1135
01:16:08,667 --> 01:16:13,051
and he presented
this to the higher-ups
1136
01:16:13,085 --> 01:16:15,709
and eventually,
a courier jet came in from Washington.
1137
01:16:15,743 --> 01:16:18,263
He handed the footage over,
which was good, he viewed it...
1138
01:16:18,297 --> 01:16:19,954
- That's the last he saw of it.
- Exactly.
1139
01:16:19,989 --> 01:16:21,725
Did you
know where that footage went
1140
01:16:21,749 --> 01:16:24,372
of the flying saucer
that landed on the...
1141
01:16:24,407 --> 01:16:26,478
Went to Washington.
That's all that I know.
1142
01:16:26,512 --> 01:16:28,698
Did you ever keep in
touch with anybody about it or discuss it?
1143
01:16:28,722 --> 01:16:31,828
How would I keep in
touch with anybody about it?
1144
01:16:31,863 --> 01:16:34,624
There's no way within the
military or within the government
1145
01:16:34,659 --> 01:16:37,627
of keeping track of
something that is classified.
1146
01:16:37,662 --> 01:16:40,354
Did you try
to go after stuff like this?
1147
01:16:40,388 --> 01:16:42,598
We did. We have. It's there.
1148
01:16:42,632 --> 01:16:47,603
Are you saying that there's
some evidence that's...
1149
01:16:47,637 --> 01:16:49,984
Still hasn't
seen the light of day?
1150
01:16:51,192 --> 01:16:54,437
I'm saying most of it
hasn't seen the light of day.
1151
01:16:59,373 --> 01:17:01,444
Astronaut Cooper had spoken
1152
01:17:01,478 --> 01:17:03,791
with the President
at a Cabinet meeting.
1153
01:17:03,826 --> 01:17:06,138
He raised this with
Secretary Cohen.
1154
01:17:06,173 --> 01:17:09,452
And then Cohen's office
called me and asked me
1155
01:17:09,486 --> 01:17:12,489
to pursue this
and chase it down.
1156
01:17:15,941 --> 01:17:19,427
The Air Force colonel that I
spoke with got very frustrated,
1157
01:17:19,462 --> 01:17:22,327
and when I asked him what
happened to all of these records, he said,
1158
01:17:22,361 --> 01:17:26,124
"Well, that was all cleaned up
or thrown out to save space,"
1159
01:17:26,158 --> 01:17:27,263
something like that.
1160
01:17:27,297 --> 01:17:30,715
It sounded ludicrous,
but that's what he told me.
1161
01:17:32,855 --> 01:17:36,962
If there is some recovered debris,
say...
1162
01:17:37,963 --> 01:17:41,587
It is so deeply buried
and squirreled away
1163
01:17:41,622 --> 01:17:46,696
that it's outside of those
normal oversight processes,
1164
01:17:46,731 --> 01:17:50,079
and that's where there's
a problem in this area.
1165
01:17:56,741 --> 01:17:58,881
Dr. Jacques Vallee has collected
1166
01:17:58,915 --> 01:18:02,125
purported metal
debris from UFO cases
1167
01:18:02,160 --> 01:18:05,335
dating as far back as 1947
1168
01:18:05,370 --> 01:18:09,719
that experts are analyzing in
a state-of-the-art laboratory.
1169
01:18:09,754 --> 01:18:13,619
The breakthrough has come
with the invention of a machine
1170
01:18:13,654 --> 01:18:17,071
that enables usto look
at the atomic structure,
1171
01:18:17,106 --> 01:18:18,452
and at that point,
1172
01:18:18,486 --> 01:18:21,731
the atomic structure
is impossible to fake.
1173
01:18:21,766 --> 01:18:25,804
This device is a
multi-parameterion beam imager.
1174
01:18:25,839 --> 01:18:29,463
Dr. Garry Nolan,
a Stanford microbiologist,
1175
01:18:29,497 --> 01:18:33,847
is using a revolutionary
three-dimensional imaging device
1176
01:18:33,881 --> 01:18:39,542
to analyze the samples right
down to their individual atoms.
1177
01:18:39,576 --> 01:18:42,096
When Dr. Nolan placed
some of the fragments
1178
01:18:42,131 --> 01:18:44,547
in the vacuum chamber
of his instrument,
1179
01:18:44,581 --> 01:18:47,584
he was astonished to
find their composition
1180
01:18:47,619 --> 01:18:49,759
was unlike any known metal.
1181
01:18:49,794 --> 01:18:54,833
Just one spot and the isotopic
composition all the way across.
1182
01:18:54,868 --> 01:18:56,697
No matter where he looked
1183
01:18:56,732 --> 01:18:58,872
in the sample's
jumble of elements,
1184
01:18:58,906 --> 01:19:02,703
whether magnesium,
iron, nickel or titanium,
1185
01:19:02,738 --> 01:19:06,776
the ratio of isotopes
didn't make any sense.
1186
01:19:06,811 --> 01:19:11,781
If you're talking about an advanced
material from an advanced civilization,
1187
01:19:11,816 --> 01:19:13,069
you're talking about
something that...
1188
01:19:13,093 --> 01:19:15,440
I'll just call it an ultra-material,
right?
1189
01:19:15,474 --> 01:19:17,960
It's something
which has properties
1190
01:19:17,994 --> 01:19:21,273
where somebody
is putting it together,
1191
01:19:21,308 --> 01:19:22,999
again, at the atomic scale.
1192
01:19:23,034 --> 01:19:28,936
So we're building our
world with 80 elements.
1193
01:19:28,971 --> 01:19:31,421
Somebody else is
building the world
1194
01:19:31,456 --> 01:19:34,908
with 253 different isotopes.
1195
01:19:36,944 --> 01:19:41,569
I intend to use the information
to try to build something.
1196
01:19:41,604 --> 01:19:43,537
Try to understand
a physical principle
1197
01:19:43,571 --> 01:19:45,159
that we don't know today.
1198
01:19:45,194 --> 01:19:49,060
This material was
manufactured. It's not natural.
1199
01:19:49,094 --> 01:19:53,616
It's not natural to the materials
that we have around us
1200
01:19:53,650 --> 01:19:55,894
in the lab, or on the Earth.
1201
01:19:55,929 --> 01:19:58,932
It does not mean
that it was necessarily
1202
01:19:58,966 --> 01:20:01,797
made some place in outer space.
1203
01:20:01,831 --> 01:20:04,523
It just means that
it was manufactured
1204
01:20:04,558 --> 01:20:07,043
specially for a
particular purpose
1205
01:20:07,078 --> 01:20:10,322
that we don't understand,
and we want to understand it.
1206
01:20:17,951 --> 01:20:21,713
There is an immense
array of unanswered questions.
1207
01:20:23,094 --> 01:20:27,270
When we observe
some of these craft doing,
1208
01:20:27,305 --> 01:20:29,479
think about the possibilities,
1209
01:20:29,514 --> 01:20:32,482
what we may discover
technologically,
1210
01:20:32,517 --> 01:20:34,519
how we might solve
the energy crisis,
1211
01:20:34,553 --> 01:20:36,970
how we might raise
our standards of living.
1212
01:20:38,834 --> 01:20:40,870
There is an urgent need,
in my view,
1213
01:20:40,905 --> 01:20:42,251
to get to the bottom of it.
1214
01:20:42,285 --> 01:20:44,736
We don't know the
origin of these vehicles
1215
01:20:44,770 --> 01:20:46,738
nor do we understand the intent
1216
01:20:46,772 --> 01:20:49,361
of whoever is controlling them.
1217
01:20:51,916 --> 01:20:55,643
There are cases
that seem to go beyond encounters
1218
01:20:55,678 --> 01:20:57,818
with an advanced technology,
1219
01:20:57,853 --> 01:21:01,201
to contact with an
engaged intelligence.
1220
01:21:02,029 --> 01:21:05,861
Papua New Guinea. June, 1959
1221
01:21:05,895 --> 01:21:09,554
An Australian missionary
spots a large disc
1222
01:21:09,588 --> 01:21:12,764
hovering just 200
feet off the ground
1223
01:21:12,798 --> 01:21:15,905
while standing with
38 other people.
1224
01:21:15,940 --> 01:21:20,910
This solid-looking object
and... Can you imagine?
1225
01:21:20,945 --> 01:21:23,809
What it's like to
look up in the sky
1226
01:21:23,844 --> 01:21:27,917
and see some figures up there?
1227
01:21:27,952 --> 01:21:32,266
All were amazed
to see four small occupants
1228
01:21:32,301 --> 01:21:35,994
dressed in what looked
like black diving suits.
1229
01:21:36,029 --> 01:21:39,825
Figures walking about on top,
1230
01:21:39,860 --> 01:21:43,622
and not the slightest
noise whatsoever.
1231
01:21:43,657 --> 01:21:46,453
And so we waved.
1232
01:21:47,454 --> 01:21:48,834
Wouldn't it be wonderful
1233
01:21:48,869 --> 01:21:52,597
if we could get this object
down onto the playing field?
1234
01:21:52,631 --> 01:21:54,737
And as we waved,
1235
01:21:54,771 --> 01:21:57,222
wondering whether
we'd get some recognition
1236
01:21:57,257 --> 01:21:58,706
and whether, perhaps,
1237
01:21:58,741 --> 01:22:01,226
they would understand
what we wanted,
1238
01:22:01,261 --> 01:22:04,057
they waved back.
1239
01:22:04,091 --> 01:22:06,956
The
encounter lasted several hours
1240
01:22:06,991 --> 01:22:10,235
before the object
abruptly departed.
1241
01:22:10,270 --> 01:22:13,929
There was this
amazingly incredible speed
1242
01:22:13,963 --> 01:22:19,210
that the hovercraft
disappeared to nothing
1243
01:22:19,244 --> 01:22:22,834
across the bay in a
matter of a second or so.
1244
01:22:26,976 --> 01:22:28,840
In 1994,
1245
01:22:28,874 --> 01:22:31,981
three days of sightings
across Zimbabwe
1246
01:22:32,016 --> 01:22:34,121
culminated in what some believe
1247
01:22:34,156 --> 01:22:36,848
is the most significant
close encounter
1248
01:22:36,882 --> 01:22:38,815
in modern history.
1249
01:22:39,816 --> 01:22:42,198
Hundreds of people
today phoned the ZBC
1250
01:22:42,233 --> 01:22:44,718
and BBC correspondent in Harare
1251
01:22:44,752 --> 01:22:50,172
saying they sighted an
unidentified flying object last night.
1252
01:22:50,206 --> 01:22:52,381
We have some eyewitness reports.
1253
01:22:53,416 --> 01:22:55,142
It almost seemed
to be under the cloud.
1254
01:22:55,177 --> 01:22:57,248
As it came past,
I noticed there's no noise,
1255
01:22:57,282 --> 01:22:59,940
and that's when I thought, "Well,
there's something very odd here."
1256
01:22:59,975 --> 01:23:02,356
It was quite amazing.
It was beautiful.
1257
01:23:02,391 --> 01:23:06,947
They are saying that Jesus
is passing through Africa.
1258
01:23:06,982 --> 01:23:08,845
That's what they are saying.
1259
01:23:19,856 --> 01:23:22,756
We interviewed about 64 children
1260
01:23:22,790 --> 01:23:24,068
in front of the camera.
1261
01:23:24,102 --> 01:23:25,862
UFO story that happens...
1262
01:23:25,897 --> 01:23:28,900
Just say exactly what you want to say,
okay?
1263
01:23:28,934 --> 01:23:32,214
Well, I was running and playing,
1264
01:23:32,248 --> 01:23:35,010
and then I saw this
maroon colorin the sky.
1265
01:23:35,044 --> 01:23:36,252
Why don't we follow it?
1266
01:23:36,287 --> 01:23:39,600
We saw this, like,
a silver thing down there.
1267
01:23:39,635 --> 01:23:42,051
It was a silver oval thing
1268
01:23:42,086 --> 01:23:44,640
that flew past really slowly.
1269
01:23:44,674 --> 01:23:48,092
I saw the bigger one and the spaceship,
like, four or five of them.
1270
01:23:48,126 --> 01:23:50,025
It was red, green and yellow.
1271
01:23:50,059 --> 01:23:51,267
There was this big ship.
1272
01:23:51,302 --> 01:23:53,994
It had these lights,
these patterns, and it flew.
1273
01:23:54,029 --> 01:23:56,755
I thought, "No, it's not a UFO."
1274
01:23:56,790 --> 01:23:58,550
And then I looked
carefully at it,
1275
01:23:58,585 --> 01:23:59,586
and I thought, "Maybe."
1276
01:24:05,109 --> 01:24:06,834
Dozens of children said that
1277
01:24:06,869 --> 01:24:09,216
one or more of the
disc-shaped objects
1278
01:24:09,251 --> 01:24:12,633
landed just beyond the
far edge of their playground.
1279
01:24:15,671 --> 01:24:17,880
The next thing they knew,
1280
01:24:17,914 --> 01:24:20,641
something was
standing next to it.
1281
01:24:24,369 --> 01:24:28,097
You saw him standing
by the silver thing.
1282
01:24:28,132 --> 01:24:29,892
And he had big eyes.
1283
01:24:32,860 --> 01:24:36,657
He had a big head
and big black eyes,
1284
01:24:36,692 --> 01:24:38,866
and was dressed
in a black bodysuit.
1285
01:24:38,901 --> 01:24:40,661
They were wearing pure black.
1286
01:24:40,696 --> 01:24:44,596
And I came down and I saw
the funny man with his eyes here,
1287
01:24:44,631 --> 01:24:45,942
and I saw a spaceship,
1288
01:24:45,977 --> 01:24:48,462
and there were a few
little ones around it.
1289
01:24:54,572 --> 01:24:57,161
How far away
were you when you saw him?
1290
01:24:57,195 --> 01:25:00,302
Not very far. Not very
far. About a meter away.
1291
01:25:00,336 --> 01:25:02,442
- A meter away? That close?
- Yes.
1292
01:25:05,445 --> 01:25:07,205
And how big was the figure?
1293
01:25:07,240 --> 01:25:10,312
It was about as
big as a grade six.
1294
01:25:10,346 --> 01:25:11,934
Yeah, it's there!
1295
01:25:11,968 --> 01:25:15,593
I believe that the children
did see something.
1296
01:25:15,627 --> 01:25:20,253
I believe them because
normally children don't lie.
1297
01:25:20,287 --> 01:25:22,772
I've always taught my children,
"Seeing is believing."
1298
01:25:22,807 --> 01:25:24,912
Unfortunately,
I didn't see. So...
1299
01:25:30,815 --> 01:25:32,095
This alleged encounter
1300
01:25:32,127 --> 01:25:34,543
caught the attention
of Pulitzer Prize-winning
1301
01:25:34,577 --> 01:25:37,994
Harvard psychiatrist,
Dr. John Mack.
1302
01:25:38,029 --> 01:25:39,720
It seemed that he
was looking at all of us.
1303
01:25:39,755 --> 01:25:42,930
What did it feel like when
he was looking at you?
1304
01:25:42,965 --> 01:25:44,449
It felt scared.
1305
01:25:44,484 --> 01:25:47,418
It felt scary? What
was scary about it?
1306
01:25:48,488 --> 01:25:50,421
Well, felt scared
1307
01:25:50,455 --> 01:25:54,597
because I've never seen
such a... person like that before.
1308
01:25:54,632 --> 01:25:58,946
And I saw this... person.
1309
01:25:58,981 --> 01:26:01,708
And it had big eyes.
1310
01:26:01,742 --> 01:26:04,193
That's all I saw
about it. Big eyes.
1311
01:26:04,228 --> 01:26:07,472
- They had short legs and quite a long top.
- Mmm-hmm.
1312
01:26:07,507 --> 01:26:09,198
With a big head
1313
01:26:09,233 --> 01:26:11,718
and eyes that are
bigger than ours.
1314
01:26:11,752 --> 01:26:14,583
How much bigger than ours?
1315
01:26:14,617 --> 01:26:15,860
Four or five times the size.
1316
01:26:15,894 --> 01:26:18,449
Four or five times
the size of ours?
1317
01:26:20,865 --> 01:26:22,222
And then I was looking at him,
right?
1318
01:26:22,246 --> 01:26:24,075
- Yes.
- Then he was looking at me back.
1319
01:26:24,109 --> 01:26:25,904
How can I just keep
on looking at him?
1320
01:26:25,939 --> 01:26:28,148
So I had to stop and
I looked sideways.
1321
01:26:28,183 --> 01:26:30,288
But I was looking
straight into his eyes.
1322
01:26:30,323 --> 01:26:32,911
Well, he never said anything.
1323
01:26:32,946 --> 01:26:35,673
It's just the face and the eyes.
1324
01:26:35,707 --> 01:26:39,297
Maybe they're trying
to communicate with us.
1325
01:26:39,332 --> 01:26:42,162
Show us something
which we don't know about.
1326
01:26:42,197 --> 01:26:44,682
I think they want... Um...
1327
01:26:46,684 --> 01:26:48,444
people to know that
1328
01:26:48,479 --> 01:26:51,999
we're actually making
harm on this world,
1329
01:26:52,034 --> 01:26:54,243
and we mustn't get
too technological.
1330
01:26:54,278 --> 01:26:56,521
We don't look after the planet.
1331
01:26:56,556 --> 01:27:01,146
All the trees will
be cut down...
1332
01:27:01,181 --> 01:27:03,873
and there will be no air
and people will be dying.
1333
01:27:03,908 --> 01:27:07,774
Is this an idea you
have had before?
1334
01:27:07,808 --> 01:27:13,642
Or did this idea come to you
when you had this experience?
1335
01:27:15,506 --> 01:27:18,888
- When I had this experience.
- Mmm-hmm.
1336
01:27:18,923 --> 01:27:22,582
For the first time in
nearly 20 years, the Ariel schoolchildren
1337
01:27:22,616 --> 01:27:26,102
gathered from the
four corners of the world
1338
01:27:26,137 --> 01:27:27,518
to talk to each other
1339
01:27:27,552 --> 01:27:29,140
about the experience they shared
1340
01:27:29,174 --> 01:27:30,797
that September morning.
1341
01:27:30,831 --> 01:27:32,350
I remember something there...
1342
01:27:32,385 --> 01:27:35,388
One they all still
struggle to understand.
1343
01:27:35,422 --> 01:27:37,286
You know that it's moving,
but you...
1344
01:27:37,321 --> 01:27:39,392
- I - stand by what I saw.
1345
01:27:39,426 --> 01:27:44,155
There was no
reason for any of us.
1346
01:27:44,189 --> 01:27:45,984
To make that up.
1347
01:27:46,019 --> 01:27:48,780
I've not spoken to anybody about it.
1348
01:27:48,815 --> 01:27:50,161
Not because I'm not proud of it,
1349
01:27:50,195 --> 01:27:53,682
but because I don't
want the... The stigma.
1350
01:27:55,615 --> 01:27:57,306
So it's something that
1351
01:27:57,341 --> 01:28:01,828
I've had to deal with
for 19-and-a-half years.
1352
01:28:03,381 --> 01:28:04,969
I don't wanna say
I felt like I knew it,
1353
01:28:05,003 --> 01:28:07,454
- but I knew that I didn't have to be afraid of it.
- Yeah.
1354
01:28:07,489 --> 01:28:10,146
They took us
back to the moment of contact.
1355
01:28:10,181 --> 01:28:12,217
Exactly how I felt. Exactly...
1356
01:28:12,252 --> 01:28:15,428
The details still
seared into memory.
1357
01:28:15,462 --> 01:28:19,017
I was with one of the
other girls and saying to her,
1358
01:28:19,052 --> 01:28:21,157
"This is amazing."
1359
01:28:21,192 --> 01:28:24,160
We all were just
stopped in our tracks.
1360
01:28:25,369 --> 01:28:28,682
A little man appeared.
1361
01:28:28,717 --> 01:28:30,477
On top of the actual craft.
1362
01:28:30,512 --> 01:28:33,342
And that moment,
for me, was very distinct,
1363
01:28:33,377 --> 01:28:35,379
because I was like,
"That's not human."
1364
01:28:35,413 --> 01:28:38,520
Well, I was just completely
engulfed in these eyes.
1365
01:28:38,554 --> 01:28:41,523
The eyes, and in that moment,
however long it was,
1366
01:28:41,557 --> 01:28:43,939
'cause I have no
idea of the time frame,
1367
01:28:43,973 --> 01:28:45,458
it was just mesmerizing.
1368
01:28:45,492 --> 01:28:50,773
There was no talking. Um...
It's all just images in the head.
1369
01:28:53,328 --> 01:28:55,330
Telepathic communication.
1370
01:28:56,365 --> 01:28:58,367
They were trying to communicate.
1371
01:28:58,402 --> 01:29:00,369
Trying to tell us something,
1372
01:29:00,404 --> 01:29:02,785
or something to do
with the environment.
1373
01:29:02,820 --> 01:29:04,166
I kept getting these thoughts
1374
01:29:04,200 --> 01:29:06,271
and ideas in my
mind of technology.
1375
01:29:06,306 --> 01:29:09,171
Technology is not helping,
technology is bad...
1376
01:29:12,312 --> 01:29:15,039
And we're going
down a wrong path,
1377
01:29:15,073 --> 01:29:16,868
and we have to
start recognizing that
1378
01:29:16,903 --> 01:29:19,802
what we're doing is detrimental
and we need to make changes.
1379
01:29:19,837 --> 01:29:24,324
And I don't know what to do with that,
or...
1380
01:29:26,361 --> 01:29:28,432
They were reaching out to us.
1381
01:29:28,466 --> 01:29:30,882
It was as if they wanted
us to go with them.
1382
01:29:32,643 --> 01:29:35,231
At that moment, that was kind of
1383
01:29:35,266 --> 01:29:39,650
when I snapped
right out of the trance.
1384
01:29:39,684 --> 01:29:44,240
As soon as I broke contact,
all of those feelings, technology, the bad,
1385
01:29:44,275 --> 01:29:46,277
the horribleness
that was happening
1386
01:29:46,311 --> 01:29:49,556
and going around my
body at the time went.
1387
01:29:49,591 --> 01:29:52,145
It's making me a bit
anxious being back here.
1388
01:29:52,179 --> 01:29:55,631
I can feel it right
now. I was scared.
1389
01:29:56,563 --> 01:29:59,290
They came running
up here in such a panic,
1390
01:29:59,324 --> 01:30:03,121
screaming,
screaming... Ah! Then we were here.
1391
01:30:03,156 --> 01:30:04,537
And a child can't make that up.
1392
01:30:05,952 --> 01:30:08,171
So I was
there when they were interviewing them
1393
01:30:08,195 --> 01:30:10,474
and saw the way they were.
1394
01:30:10,508 --> 01:30:13,511
It was just a huge,
big mess and muddle-up
1395
01:30:13,546 --> 01:30:15,582
and just people everywhere.
1396
01:30:15,617 --> 01:30:18,205
Just ask them
questions straight off
1397
01:30:18,240 --> 01:30:19,586
without explaining
to the children
1398
01:30:19,621 --> 01:30:22,209
what they were doing
and why they were doing it.
1399
01:30:22,244 --> 01:30:23,521
It was chaos
1400
01:30:23,556 --> 01:30:26,593
in terms of the media
frenzy that was going on,
1401
01:30:26,628 --> 01:30:30,010
and us being so young,
and not even...
1402
01:30:31,460 --> 01:30:33,842
being allowed time to
comprehend what we had seen.
1403
01:30:35,430 --> 01:30:37,259
Our teachers certainly
didn't believe us.
1404
01:30:37,293 --> 01:30:38,467
So, that was a big deal,
1405
01:30:38,502 --> 01:30:40,469
'cause we had to continue
going to school there.
1406
01:30:44,059 --> 01:30:47,131
We went back
one last time to the Ariel School
1407
01:30:47,165 --> 01:30:48,650
to meet with Judy Bates,
1408
01:30:48,684 --> 01:30:51,066
a teacher at the
time of the incident
1409
01:30:51,100 --> 01:30:53,344
and now the headmistress.
1410
01:30:53,378 --> 01:30:55,484
Something was weighing on her
1411
01:30:55,519 --> 01:30:58,383
that she wanted
to tell the children.
1412
01:30:58,418 --> 01:31:00,006
Yeah,
I said I wanted to apologize.
1413
01:31:00,040 --> 01:31:02,629
I should have taken more notice.
1414
01:31:02,664 --> 01:31:06,461
But I didn't. I was more
concerned about me and not them.
1415
01:31:06,495 --> 01:31:10,499
And what was going on in
my own sort of experience.
1416
01:31:10,534 --> 01:31:12,743
Well, that's what... Yeah.
1417
01:31:16,056 --> 01:31:20,336
And if you could
summarize in just one sentence
1418
01:31:20,371 --> 01:31:23,339
what took place September 1994
1419
01:31:23,374 --> 01:31:26,308
here at Ariel School,
Ruwa, Zimbabwe,
1420
01:31:26,342 --> 01:31:28,275
what would you say?
1421
01:31:28,310 --> 01:31:31,002
Aliens visited us.
1422
01:31:31,037 --> 01:31:32,659
And that's about it, yeah.
1423
01:31:32,694 --> 01:31:34,454
That's why if you believe it,
you believe it.
1424
01:31:34,489 --> 01:31:36,387
If you don't, well...
1425
01:31:40,736 --> 01:31:42,911
We find ourselves
confronted with something
1426
01:31:42,945 --> 01:31:47,536
that challenges our very
understanding of reality.
1427
01:31:47,571 --> 01:31:51,506
We may be sharing this
fragile blue-green oasis
1428
01:31:51,540 --> 01:31:54,129
with an unknown other.
1429
01:31:54,163 --> 01:31:58,133
One with a mysterious
relationship to humanity,
1430
01:31:58,167 --> 01:32:01,999
and its own
interest in our world.
1431
01:32:03,207 --> 01:32:05,554
And if you saw him again,
what would you do?
1432
01:32:05,589 --> 01:32:08,108
I'll ask him what is
he doing on Earth,
1433
01:32:08,143 --> 01:32:10,110
and what does he want with us.
1434
01:33:45,861 --> 01:33:49,624
There were
well-observed UFO cases,
1435
01:33:49,658 --> 01:33:53,144
just like modern cases,
in the 18th century.
1436
01:33:53,179 --> 01:33:54,870
In the 17th century.
1437
01:33:54,905 --> 01:33:55,940
There was science.
1438
01:33:55,975 --> 01:33:58,702
There were astronomers,
they had telescopes,
1439
01:33:58,736 --> 01:34:01,118
and they were
very good observers
1440
01:34:01,152 --> 01:34:04,742
because their life depended
on being good observers.
1441
01:34:04,777 --> 01:34:07,814
And these observations
come from all over the world.
1442
01:34:09,298 --> 01:34:11,128
They just have been forgotten.
1443
01:34:37,672 --> 01:34:42,607
I like to think of anomalies,
mysteries, as opportunities,
1444
01:34:42,642 --> 01:34:44,920
and we'll go after
those mysteries,
1445
01:34:44,955 --> 01:34:47,889
take the torch away
from the campfire,
1446
01:34:47,923 --> 01:34:50,823
and out of the cave,
into the darkness
1447
01:34:50,857 --> 01:34:53,239
and make some
amazing discoveries.
1448
01:35:15,468 --> 01:35:19,644
The UFO phenomenon as studied
by my colleagues and myself,
1449
01:35:19,679 --> 01:35:22,993
bespeaks the action of
some form of intelligence.
1450
01:36:00,375 --> 01:36:03,240
These objects
gave the impression
1451
01:36:03,274 --> 01:36:05,276
that they wanted to be seen...
1452
01:36:06,484 --> 01:36:09,556
with these enormous spotlights.
1453
01:36:09,591 --> 01:36:12,939
There was no way that
they were trying to hide.
1454
01:36:12,974 --> 01:36:15,804
So why? That is
the main question.
1455
01:36:15,839 --> 01:36:19,152
Why do these objects
want to be seen?
1456
01:36:40,553 --> 01:36:43,590
Later on, I was so sorry
1457
01:36:43,625 --> 01:36:47,836
that why I did not
call on the radio.
1458
01:36:47,871 --> 01:36:51,012
Ask them, "Who are you?
1459
01:36:51,046 --> 01:36:55,844
"Please,
make communication with us."
1460
01:37:12,896 --> 01:37:15,484
I figure if they're smart
enough and capable enough
1461
01:37:15,519 --> 01:37:17,866
to come into our airspace
1462
01:37:17,901 --> 01:37:19,557
with the technology
that they have,
1463
01:37:19,592 --> 01:37:22,422
if they wanted to do us in,
they could have done us in a long time ago.
1464
01:37:22,457 --> 01:37:25,011
So,
I'm not fearful of this at all.
1465
01:38:35,979 --> 01:38:37,877
Every once in a while one of them goes,
zip!
1466
01:38:37,912 --> 01:38:39,396
It went like a bat out of hell.
1467
01:38:39,430 --> 01:38:42,226
Jumped about ten degrees
to the right. Just like this.
1468
01:38:42,261 --> 01:38:45,609
I've never seen anything go so
fast in my life as that thing went.
1469
01:38:45,643 --> 01:38:49,130
Incredible speed.
Disappeared to nothing.
1470
01:38:49,164 --> 01:38:52,754
And just went, zoom,
straight up so fast.
1471
01:38:52,788 --> 01:38:54,618
It's like it had been
shot out of a gun. Wham!
1472
01:38:54,652 --> 01:38:56,827
Now you see it,
now you don't. It just...
1473
01:38:56,861 --> 01:38:58,518
But it just was, poof!
1474
01:38:58,542 --> 01:39:00,542
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