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Anyone here?
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My name is Erwin Griswold.
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I am the dean of this place.
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Welcome to Harvard Law School.
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Take a moment
to look around you.
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In this room,
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there are Rhodes
and Fulbright Scholars,
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Phi Beta Kappa members,
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student body presidents,
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and a Harvard
football team captain.
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Together...
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you will become lawyers.
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This is a privilege you share.
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It is also a responsibility
you accept.
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Consider...
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what does it mean
to be a Harvard man?
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A Harvard man is
intelligent, of course,
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but he is also tenacious.
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He is a leader devoted
to the rule of law.
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He is mindful of his country,
loyal to tradition,
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and he is respectful
and protective
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of our institutions.
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"The net operating loss deductions
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"by the year shall be computed
as of Subsection A
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of this section,
applied to such tax review..."
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Which one makes me look
more like a Harvard man?
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I'm thrilled to report
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that you look nothing
like a Harvard man.
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Seriously?
It's the dean's dinner, Marty.
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You know how I am
at these things.
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I-I need to make
a good impression.
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And you will, Kiki,
but you've got it wrong.
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It's not the dress. It's you.
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You haven't touched
your tuna casserole.
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Come here, sweetie. Come.
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There we go.
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I put onions in.
They help, right?
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Definitely.
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I don't like either of these.
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Okay, where were we?
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Thank you.
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Ladies and gentlemen,
please join us
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in the dining room
as dinner is served.
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And, professors,
please escort the ladies in.
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After you. Please.
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May I?
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He remembers everything.
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He said, "Professor,
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have you corrected our papers?"
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And I said, "Correcting them
will take a lifetime.
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I'm merely grading them."
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Oh, wait a minute.
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Esteemed colleagues, ladies.
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This is only the sixth year
women have had the privilege
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to earn a Harvard law degree.
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This little soiree
is our way of saying welcome.
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My wife Harriet and I
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are very glad
all nine of you have joined us.
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Let us go around the table,
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and each of you ladies report
who you are, where you're from,
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and why you're occupying
a place at Harvard
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that could have gone to a man.
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Yeah.
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Well...
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why don't you
get us started, dear?
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I'm Hennie Callaghan.
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Father's a lawyer
back in Minneapolis.
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He used to give me
drafts of contracts
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to use for drawing paper.
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But at some point,
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I got more interested
in reading them
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than drawing on them.
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In a few years, it's gonna be
Callaghan and Callaghan.
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That was fine.
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Next.
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Emily Hicks.
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Hello. Connecticut.
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When I finished Mount Holyoke,
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my mother wanted me
to get married.
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But I didn't want to do that,
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and I didn't want
to be a teacher
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- or a nurse, so when I...
- Ah.
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That's not a very good reason.
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Next.
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- Oh.
- Watch it.
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Sorry.
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Uh, I'm...
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Ruth Ginsburg from Brooklyn.
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And why are you here,
Miss Ginsburg?
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Uh, M-Mrs. Ginsburg, actually.
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My husband Marty is
in the second-year class.
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I'm at Harvard
to learn more about his work,
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so I can be a more patient
and understanding wife.
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Come to dinner.
The beans will be boiled,
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the chicken will be stewed,
and you will be grilled.
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We came to Harvard
to be lawyers. Why else?
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It's truly an asinine question.
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He's never gonna take me
seriously.
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No, that's not true.
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You're the smartest
person here,
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and you're gonna be
the most prepared.
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So just stand up
and say what you know.
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At a place like this,
that's all that matters.
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In my experience,
even small mistakes
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are glaring when you stick out.
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Well, then you're very lucky.
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Because you...
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are very... short.
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Oh, yeah?
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Yeah.
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Well...
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why don't you come down here
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and say that to my face.
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Mrs. Ginsburg.
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I am Professor Brown.
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This is
Introduction to Contracts.
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Hawkins versus McGee.
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State the case, please...
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Mr. Pruitt.
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Uh, good morning.
I'm Donald Pruitt.
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I'm really honored
to be here...
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Hawkins v. McGee.
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Uh, yeah, Hawkins versus McGee,
it-it's a fascinating,
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uh, breach of contract case
where, um...
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oh, uh, Charles Hawkins hurt
his hand, and McGee had...
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Can someone help him, please?
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Mr. Fitzpatrick.
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It was Charles's son
who hurt his hand.
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- Electrocution burn.
- And at what point
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does the case turn,
Mr. Fitzpatrick?
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McGee promised to fix the hand
by performing a skin graft,
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but McGee wasn't very familiar
with the procedure,
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and the results
weren't quite what he planned.
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Question already, Mrs....
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- Ginsburg.
- Correction, Professor Brown.
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McGee did not simply promise
to fix George Hawkins' hand.
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He promised, quote,
"a 100% good hand."
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- That's the same thing.
- Is it?
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What say you, Mrs. Ginsburg?
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It is not.
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Words matter.
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McGee grafted skin
from Hawkins' chest.
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Not only did this fail
to fix the scarring,
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he had chest hair growing
on his palm.
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Proving that a hand with a burn
is worth two with a bush.
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The court denied
Hawkins' damages.
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Hawkins did get damages...
the court said
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- he could have...
- If I may finish.
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Hawkins was denied damages
for pain and suffering.
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The New Hampshire Supreme Court
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ruled he was entitled
to damages
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only based on the contract
being fulfilled.
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So if Dr. McGee had set
realistic expectations
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instead of making
grand promises,
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Hawkins' award likely
would have been less.
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Was that an answer,
Mrs. Ginsburg, or a filibuster?
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Mm.
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Mm.
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- Movie.
- Movie.
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- Four words.
- Four words.
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- Second word.
- Second word.
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- Seven?
- Seven.
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- Uh-oh.
- Fourth word. - Fourth word.
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- - Oh! Monkey!
- Oh! Gorilla! Monkey business.
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- Uh, ape!
- Monkey. Monkey.
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Ape. Uh...
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- Ooh.
- Monkey on my back.
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Second word, seven. Seven...
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Seven... Seven Bridesfor Seven Brothers?
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What does that have to do
with monkeys?
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- And... - Seven...
- Oh, oh, The Seven Year Itch!
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- Time!
- Yes!
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Ruthless Ruthy strikes again.
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Okay, next round's
riding on you.
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- Don't worry, he's very good.
- All right.
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Thank God, because she actually
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broke up with someone
for being bad at charades.
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- You didn't, really?
- Well, it was a manifestation
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of his being an idiot.
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- See?
- Don't worry, I'm comfortable
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- being smarter than you.
- Oh, thank you.
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- All right, everybody ready?
- Oh.
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- Uh, song. - A song.
- Um...
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- Uh, Buddy Holly? Uh...
- Uh, Bill Haley?
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By Elvis.
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Uh, three words.
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- First word.
- Uh, first word.
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Uh...
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- Uh, table. Um...
- A glass?
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- Um...
- A book!
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- Um, uh...
- Reading!
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Uh, blue!
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- Ah! "Blueberry Hill"?
- No, that's Fats Domino.
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Uh, third word,
third word. Floor.
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- Carpet.
- Dancing?
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- Nice moves.
- Oh. Ow. Ow. Hold on.
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- Oh, no sound effects.
- Oh. Oh, "Bl-Blue Suede Shoes."
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- Come on, Marty, you're a lightweight.
- Marty?
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Marty.
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- Help! Help! - Is he all right?
- Someone get some help!
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The doctor's ready
to see you now.
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Excuse me.
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Just a moment, please.
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- Excuse me, I just need...
- Just a moment.
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I need to make a call.
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Yes. Uh, can we have
the results today?
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E-Excuse me.
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Doctor, um,
you examined my husband.
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I'm wondering when you think
he'll be able to leave.
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I need to call the sitter. I...
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What's the patient's name?
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- Martin Ginsburg.
- Right.
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Ginsburg.
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Yeah, he's not
going home today.
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- Excuse me?
- We have more tests to run.
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Wha... What kind of tests?
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- Various kinds. He's gonna be with us a while.
- What tests?
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- I need to see him.
- Just go home, get some rest.
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We'll know more in a few days.
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Now, if you'll excuse me.
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How is he?
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Fine.
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Call anytime, okay?
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Bye.
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- Hi.
- Hi.
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At least you got a break
from my cooking.
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Afternoon.
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- Hey, Doc.
- Dr. Leadbetter.
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It's as we feared.
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Marty, you're young,
and we caught it early.
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We've pioneered
a new treatment here.
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It entails numerous surgeries,
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each followed
by a course of radiation.
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There's a chance you can go on
to a healthy, happy life,
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as if none of this
had happened.
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Wha... What kind of a chance?
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Dr. Leadbetter, we'd rather
know what we're facing.
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The survival rate
for testicular cancer
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has been about five percent.
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Thanks for the honesty.
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I think.
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I'll let you two talk.
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We're never giving up.
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You keep working.
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Keep studying.
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Jane will have her father.
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You will be a lawyer.
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I am spending my life with you,
Martin Ginsburg.
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Judicial consistency.
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The doctrine of stare decisis
comes from English common law,
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which also provides
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the first examples
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of circumstances
where precedents
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- may be overturned.
- Excuse me.
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- Judges are bound...
- Thank you.
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Excuse me.
May I help you?
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Um, I'm, uh,
Martin Ginsburg's wife.
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I'll be a...
attending his classes for him.
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In addition to your own?
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Yes...
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Professor Freund.
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Judges are bound by precedence,
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but they cannot ignore
cultural change.
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A court ought not be affected
by the weather of the day,
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but will be
by the climate of the era.
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Wait, wait, wait.
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Say that last part again.
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"A court ought not be affected
by the weather of the day,
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but will be
by the climate of the era."
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And you're sure he said that?
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Of course.
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Of course.
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The law is never finished.
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It is a work in progress...
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and ever will be.
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Brown v. the Board
of Education...
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parentheses, 1954,
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was the most revolutionary...
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Supreme Court case...
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in the last century.
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Representing Oliver Brown,
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et al....
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Thurgood Marshall...
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- I'm not listening.
- ...educated the court...
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Come on, Jane.
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That's it.
Come on, sweetie.
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Okay.
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RUTH and MARTY:
One, two, three,
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whoo!
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RUTH and MARTY:
One, two, three,
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whoo!
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Should we give Daddy a rest?
294
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One day, this little angel's
gonna slam the door in our face
295
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and tell us we're ruining her life.
296
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I should have never
taken the job.
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It's a great firm,
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and New York is the center
of the legal universe.
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You earned it.
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You earned it.
301
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I barely survived it.
302
00:23:34,826 --> 00:23:38,094
I just don't want to be away
from you and Jane.
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You won't be.
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I won't allow it.
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I'll convince him.
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Say, "Good luck, Mommy."
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- Good luck, Mommy.
- See you later.
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00:23:49,842 --> 00:23:52,308
You want a Harvard law degree,
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00:23:52,310 --> 00:23:55,781
though you plan to finish
your coursework at Columbia?
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You would do well,
Mrs. Ginsburg,
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to remember how fortunate
you are to be here.
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00:24:02,388 --> 00:24:05,890
Dean Griswold, between
the first and third year
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of law school,
which is the more substantive,
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00:24:08,627 --> 00:24:10,360
the more critical?
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- The first, of course.
- Yet when someone
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transfers in
as a second-year student,
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having taken those more
important classes elsewhere,
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he's allowed a degree.
319
00:24:18,304 --> 00:24:20,505
- That's irrelevant.
- I've been here two years.
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I'm first in my class.
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00:24:22,342 --> 00:24:25,910
There is no reason your husband
cannot provide for you
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while you and the child
remain in Cambridge.
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00:24:28,815 --> 00:24:30,883
Last year,
John Sumner was allowed
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to finish his coursework
at Baltimore.
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00:24:33,153 --> 00:24:35,888
- Three years ago, Roy Paxton...
- Very different cases.
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00:24:35,890 --> 00:24:37,890
- How are they different?
- Mrs. Ginsburg,
327
00:24:37,892 --> 00:24:41,529
you have no compelling need
to transfer.
328
00:24:44,230 --> 00:24:46,567
Marty could relapse.
329
00:24:47,802 --> 00:24:49,535
He beat the odds,
330
00:24:49,537 --> 00:24:53,507
but the doctors say
it could happen at any time.
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00:24:56,778 --> 00:24:59,645
Dean Griswold...
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this is my family.
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00:25:04,453 --> 00:25:06,318
Nonetheless...
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we each have
our responsibilities,
335
00:25:09,391 --> 00:25:11,858
and mine is to protect
the distinction
336
00:25:11,860 --> 00:25:14,294
of a Harvard law degree.
337
00:25:14,296 --> 00:25:16,865
I can't force you to stay.
338
00:25:18,333 --> 00:25:21,570
But I won't reward you
for leaving, either.
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00:26:35,313 --> 00:26:37,313
Jesus, Mary and Joseph.
340
00:26:37,315 --> 00:26:39,049
Graduating top of your class.
341
00:26:39,051 --> 00:26:40,851
Law Review at Harvard...
342
00:26:40,853 --> 00:26:42,351
and Columbia.
343
00:26:42,353 --> 00:26:44,354
I didn't even know
that was possible.
344
00:26:44,356 --> 00:26:45,956
Thank you, Mr. Greene.
345
00:26:45,958 --> 00:26:47,491
I've worked hard.
346
00:26:47,493 --> 00:26:49,493
Well, you want
some white-shoe firm.
347
00:26:49,495 --> 00:26:51,862
Big money cases,
complex legal maneuvers...
348
00:26:51,864 --> 00:26:55,466
No, I think Bibler and Greene
is the perfect fit.
349
00:26:55,468 --> 00:26:58,635
- You handled the Mercer bankruptcy last year.
- Come on.
350
00:26:58,637 --> 00:27:00,504
How many have you been to?
351
00:27:00,506 --> 00:27:02,874
They all turned you down,
right? How many?
352
00:27:02,876 --> 00:27:05,311
Maybe ten?
353
00:27:06,780 --> 00:27:08,513
Twelve.
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00:27:08,515 --> 00:27:11,049
A woman, a mother,
and a Jew to boot.
355
00:27:11,051 --> 00:27:14,419
I'm surprised that many
let you through the door.
356
00:27:14,421 --> 00:27:17,022
One sent me to interview
for the secretarial pool.
357
00:27:17,024 --> 00:27:19,324
Another told me I'd be
358
00:27:19,326 --> 00:27:21,526
too busy at bake sales
to be effective.
359
00:27:21,528 --> 00:27:24,529
One partner closes his clients
in the locker room at his club,
360
00:27:24,531 --> 00:27:27,398
so he said
I'd be out of the loop.
361
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,402
Last week, I was told women are
too emotional to be lawyers.
362
00:27:30,404 --> 00:27:32,538
Then that same afternoon,
that a... a woman graduating
363
00:27:32,540 --> 00:27:34,940
top of her class
must be a real ballbuster
364
00:27:34,942 --> 00:27:36,609
and wouldn't make
a good colleague.
365
00:27:36,611 --> 00:27:39,079
I was asked when
I'd have my next baby.
366
00:27:39,081 --> 00:27:41,016
And whether I keep Shabbat.
367
00:27:42,383 --> 00:27:44,416
One interviewer told me
I had a sterling résumé,
368
00:27:44,418 --> 00:27:45,819
but they hired a woman
last year,
369
00:27:45,821 --> 00:27:48,655
and what in the world
would they want with two of us?
370
00:27:48,657 --> 00:27:49,725
You must be livid.
371
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,728
Well, my mother told me
not to give way to emotions.
372
00:27:54,730 --> 00:27:56,429
Bullshit.
373
00:27:56,431 --> 00:27:59,499
You're angry. Good.
Use it.
374
00:27:59,501 --> 00:28:02,035
I have to say, Mrs. Ginsburg,
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00:28:02,037 --> 00:28:03,971
I'm very impressed.
376
00:28:03,973 --> 00:28:05,438
Mr. Greene...
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00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,507
I want to be a lawyer.
378
00:28:07,509 --> 00:28:09,911
I want to represent clients
before the court
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00:28:09,913 --> 00:28:11,444
in pursuit of justice.
380
00:28:11,446 --> 00:28:14,782
You can see I-I worked hard
through school, I...
381
00:28:14,784 --> 00:28:17,585
I did everything I was
supposed to, and I excelled.
382
00:28:17,587 --> 00:28:20,390
I swear it,
I'll do the same for you.
383
00:28:30,500 --> 00:28:33,735
The fact is that,
you know, we're a-a...
384
00:28:33,737 --> 00:28:37,005
close-knit firm,
almost like family,
385
00:28:37,007 --> 00:28:38,709
and, uh...
386
00:28:41,745 --> 00:28:44,479
...the wives...
387
00:28:44,481 --> 00:28:46,817
they get jealous.
388
00:29:16,815 --> 00:29:20,550
The prince would marry her
389
00:29:20,552 --> 00:29:23,789
whose foot would fit
the little slipper.
390
00:29:25,057 --> 00:29:27,191
Kiki?
391
00:29:27,193 --> 00:29:30,060
- Hey! Kik!
- First, he tried it on the...
392
00:29:30,062 --> 00:29:32,062
- Where is everybody?
- ...princess.
393
00:29:32,064 --> 00:29:33,697
Oh, hi.
394
00:29:33,699 --> 00:29:35,132
Hello, sweet pea.
395
00:29:35,134 --> 00:29:36,167
Come here.
396
00:29:36,169 --> 00:29:38,069
How was your day? Hmm?
397
00:29:38,071 --> 00:29:39,670
I missed you.
398
00:29:39,672 --> 00:29:42,908
Did you have a nice day?
399
00:29:42,910 --> 00:29:44,876
Did you get the job?
400
00:29:44,878 --> 00:29:46,745
You got the job.
401
00:29:46,747 --> 00:29:47,779
That's wonderful.
402
00:29:47,781 --> 00:29:50,148
Oh! So they're gonna give you
a corner office,
403
00:29:50,150 --> 00:29:52,684
or are you still gonna have
to jump through some hoops?
404
00:29:52,686 --> 00:29:54,819
It's not at Bibler and Greene.
405
00:29:54,821 --> 00:29:57,689
I wasn't what they
were looking for.
406
00:29:57,691 --> 00:29:58,790
That's okay.
407
00:29:58,792 --> 00:30:01,160
I told you one of those
other firms would come back.
408
00:30:01,162 --> 00:30:02,562
Which one was it?
409
00:30:03,897 --> 00:30:07,233
Clyde Ferguson left
his professorship at Rutgers.
410
00:30:07,235 --> 00:30:09,501
- Kiki...
- They haven't found
411
00:30:09,503 --> 00:30:10,970
another black man
to replace him,
412
00:30:10,972 --> 00:30:14,974
so someone thought a woman
would be the next best thing.
413
00:30:22,083 --> 00:30:24,517
- Good news.
- You can't quit.
414
00:30:24,519 --> 00:30:27,187
There are more firms out there.
This is the biggest city
415
00:30:27,189 --> 00:30:29,622
in the most litigious country
in the history of the planet.
416
00:30:29,624 --> 00:30:32,259
- You can still...
- Marty, I got a job.
417
00:30:32,261 --> 00:30:34,895
Just open the champagne.
418
00:30:39,668 --> 00:30:40,869
Okay.
419
00:30:42,104 --> 00:30:44,907
Okay. Then let's celebrate.
420
00:30:52,182 --> 00:30:54,683
Marriage of Figaro.
421
00:31:00,757 --> 00:31:03,124
You know what I think?
I think this is good.
422
00:31:03,126 --> 00:31:04,759
I think it's better.
423
00:31:04,761 --> 00:31:07,028
You won't be beholden to any firm,
424
00:31:07,030 --> 00:31:09,764
you won't have a partner
breathing down your neck,
425
00:31:09,766 --> 00:31:12,234
and also, a professor
is free to represent
426
00:31:12,236 --> 00:31:14,669
any client she chooses.
427
00:31:14,671 --> 00:31:16,671
As long as they
don't mind a lawyer
428
00:31:16,673 --> 00:31:19,908
- who's never actually practiced law.
- Well...
429
00:31:19,910 --> 00:31:23,045
all I have to say is,
430
00:31:23,047 --> 00:31:25,282
hooray for Mommy.
431
00:31:27,151 --> 00:31:29,520
RUTH and MARTIN:
Cheers.
432
00:31:30,888 --> 00:31:32,788
Hooray for Mommy.
433
00:31:35,593 --> 00:31:37,928
Hooray for Mommy.
434
00:31:53,345 --> 00:31:55,278
Hell no, we won't go!
435
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,281
Hell no, we won't go!
436
00:31:57,283 --> 00:31:58,283
Hell no, we won't go...
437
00:32:06,691 --> 00:32:09,760
No!
438
00:32:09,762 --> 00:32:11,662
Vietnam!
439
00:32:11,664 --> 00:32:13,831
And now they're telling us
440
00:32:13,833 --> 00:32:15,833
there's gonna be
no prosecution!
441
00:32:15,835 --> 00:32:18,135
- No! - No!
- Are we gonna stand for that?
442
00:32:18,137 --> 00:32:19,203
No!
443
00:32:19,205 --> 00:32:21,138
Are we gonna die in Vietnam?
444
00:32:21,140 --> 00:32:22,873
- No!
- No!
445
00:32:22,875 --> 00:32:26,178
Hell no, we won't go!
Hell no, we won't go!
446
00:32:26,180 --> 00:32:27,979
Hell no, we won't go!
447
00:32:27,981 --> 00:32:30,951
Hell no, we won't go! Hell no!
448
00:32:42,663 --> 00:32:45,097
I am Professor Ginsburg.
449
00:32:45,099 --> 00:32:48,334
This is Sex Discrimination
and the Law.
450
00:32:48,336 --> 00:32:50,836
Some of my colleagues
will tell you
451
00:32:50,838 --> 00:32:53,239
that sex discrimination
doesn't exist,
452
00:32:53,241 --> 00:32:55,441
that I may as well be teaching
453
00:32:55,443 --> 00:32:57,810
the legal rights
of gnomes and fairies.
454
00:32:57,812 --> 00:33:01,749
We'll see if they're right.
455
00:33:02,684 --> 00:33:04,217
Hoyt versus Florida.
456
00:33:04,219 --> 00:33:07,053
State the facts,
please, Miss...
457
00:33:07,055 --> 00:33:09,055
Valentin.
458
00:33:09,057 --> 00:33:10,890
Gwendolyn Hoyt was a housewife,
459
00:33:10,892 --> 00:33:13,360
and her husband was
this asshole.
460
00:33:13,362 --> 00:33:15,828
Can you recall the specifics?
461
00:33:15,830 --> 00:33:17,830
He cheated on her.
He choked her.
462
00:33:17,832 --> 00:33:20,733
He'd rip off her clothes
and threaten to kill her.
463
00:33:20,735 --> 00:33:24,171
So in statutory terms,
he was a "real asshole."
464
00:33:25,441 --> 00:33:27,074
On the night in question,
465
00:33:27,076 --> 00:33:30,978
Clarence told his wife
that he'd met another woman
466
00:33:30,980 --> 00:33:32,913
and he was leaving her.
467
00:33:32,915 --> 00:33:35,916
How did Hoyt respond,
Miss... Burton?
468
00:33:35,918 --> 00:33:38,919
She smashed in his skull
with a baseball bat,
469
00:33:38,921 --> 00:33:42,957
then called an ambulance
while he was dying.
470
00:33:42,959 --> 00:33:46,895
A jury convicted Hoyt
of second-degree murder.
471
00:33:46,897 --> 00:33:49,130
And that's where
our story begins.
472
00:33:49,132 --> 00:33:51,833
A great civil rights lawyer
473
00:33:51,835 --> 00:33:54,335
took up Hoyt's appeal.
474
00:33:54,337 --> 00:33:56,971
Dorothy...
475
00:33:56,973 --> 00:33:58,442
Kenyon.
476
00:34:00,944 --> 00:34:03,745
On what grounds,
Miss... Roemer?
477
00:34:03,747 --> 00:34:06,081
The Florida's juries violated
the U.S. Constitution,
478
00:34:06,083 --> 00:34:08,083
'cause there were
only men on them.
479
00:34:08,085 --> 00:34:11,120
Kenyon said that
if there were women on it,
480
00:34:11,122 --> 00:34:13,255
Hoyt may have been convicted
of a lesser crime,
481
00:34:13,257 --> 00:34:15,958
- like manslaughter.
- That law makes sense, though.
482
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,360
Uh, women can't take care
of their kids
483
00:34:18,362 --> 00:34:20,262
if they're
on some sequestered jury.
484
00:34:20,264 --> 00:34:21,830
- Oh, is that so?
- What? - Excuse me?
485
00:34:21,832 --> 00:34:23,300
What?
Men are the mammoth hunters.
486
00:34:23,302 --> 00:34:25,202
You're never getting laid again.
487
00:34:25,204 --> 00:34:27,137
- What about women who don't have children?
- Yeah.
488
00:34:27,139 --> 00:34:29,206
- Or they're out of the house?
- Let the man stay home
489
00:34:29,208 --> 00:34:31,141
and take care of his children.
490
00:34:31,143 --> 00:34:32,475
Hey, don't take it out on me.
491
00:34:32,477 --> 00:34:34,077
I'm not holding
my fiancée back.
492
00:34:34,079 --> 00:34:36,279
- She's got two jobs.
- Which...
493
00:34:36,281 --> 00:34:39,051
she can be fired from
just for marrying you.
494
00:34:40,252 --> 00:34:42,352
The law allows it.
495
00:34:42,354 --> 00:34:44,254
There are laws that say
496
00:34:44,256 --> 00:34:45,989
women can't work overtime.
497
00:34:45,991 --> 00:34:49,460
And that a... a woman's
social security benefits,
498
00:34:49,462 --> 00:34:51,028
unlike her husband's,
499
00:34:51,030 --> 00:34:53,863
don't provide for her family
after death.
500
00:34:53,865 --> 00:34:56,133
- What? That's bullshit!
- Excuse me? - Crazy.
501
00:34:56,135 --> 00:34:59,870
Ten years ago, Dorothy Kenyon
asked a question:
502
00:34:59,872 --> 00:35:02,873
If the law differentiates
on the basis of sex,
503
00:35:02,875 --> 00:35:06,177
then how will women and men
ever become equals?
504
00:35:06,179 --> 00:35:08,179
And the Supreme Court answered:
505
00:35:08,181 --> 00:35:10,181
They won't.
506
00:35:10,183 --> 00:35:11,949
Hoyt lost her appeal.
507
00:35:11,951 --> 00:35:14,286
The decision was unanimous.
508
00:35:14,288 --> 00:35:19,424
Discrimination
on the basis of sex is legal.
509
00:35:32,906 --> 00:35:34,507
Here, stir that in.
510
00:35:34,509 --> 00:35:36,942
Mmm, Daddy,
that's not how you do it.
511
00:35:36,944 --> 00:35:39,412
- Oh, really?
- If you put the herbs in too early,
512
00:35:39,414 --> 00:35:41,147
they lose all their punch.
513
00:35:41,149 --> 00:35:43,049
Well, they're not supposed
to pummel each other, Jane.
514
00:35:43,051 --> 00:35:45,118
They're supposed to complement
each other, and that is why
515
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,186
- it's called "marrying the flavors."
- We're home!
516
00:35:47,188 --> 00:35:49,155
- Hi!
- Daddy!
517
00:35:49,157 --> 00:35:50,456
Buddy!
518
00:35:50,458 --> 00:35:52,125
- How was your day?
- Good.
519
00:35:52,127 --> 00:35:54,093
- Did you have a good day at school?
- Uh-huh.
520
00:35:54,095 --> 00:35:55,995
What'd you learn?
Anything exciting?
521
00:35:55,997 --> 00:35:57,864
- Not really.
- No? - Hi.
522
00:35:57,866 --> 00:35:59,932
- Hi.
- Hi.
523
00:35:59,934 --> 00:36:02,336
- Jane.
- Hey, Mom.
524
00:36:02,338 --> 00:36:04,538
How's this year's class?
525
00:36:04,540 --> 00:36:07,341
Oh, these kids
are so passionate.
526
00:36:07,343 --> 00:36:11,078
To them, it's about more
than precedents and dissents.
527
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,581
- They want to forge a movement.
- That's great.
528
00:36:13,583 --> 00:36:15,482
Mmm. This is delicious.
529
00:36:15,484 --> 00:36:17,419
Don't act so surprised.
530
00:36:17,421 --> 00:36:18,886
Jane?
531
00:36:18,888 --> 00:36:22,390
I got a call
from your school today.
532
00:36:22,392 --> 00:36:25,293
Apparently, I misdated a note
533
00:36:25,295 --> 00:36:27,095
excusing you from classes
534
00:36:27,097 --> 00:36:28,963
- last week.
- It's not a big deal.
535
00:36:28,965 --> 00:36:30,532
Oh, well, problem solved,
then, right?
536
00:36:30,534 --> 00:36:31,633
You skipped school.
537
00:36:31,635 --> 00:36:33,168
It's... it's the first week.
538
00:36:33,170 --> 00:36:34,969
Is... is this what this year's
gonna be like?
539
00:36:34,971 --> 00:36:37,138
- And you lied to the school.
- I never lied.
540
00:36:37,140 --> 00:36:39,107
No, forging a note
is lying, Jane.
541
00:36:39,109 --> 00:36:40,977
You're smart enough
to know that.
542
00:36:41,912 --> 00:36:43,512
Well, apparently I'm not, Mom.
543
00:36:46,217 --> 00:36:49,118
Don't forget we have
that party tonight. Not you.
544
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:50,686
- Jane.
- You're staying right here with me.
545
00:36:50,688 --> 00:36:53,189
- I apologize, okay?
- I want to know where you were.
546
00:36:53,191 --> 00:36:56,392
Denise and I went to a rally
to hear Gloria Steinem speak.
547
00:36:56,394 --> 00:36:58,327
What?
548
00:36:58,329 --> 00:37:00,529
Gloria Steinem. She's a writer.
549
00:37:00,531 --> 00:37:02,131
She just started
her own magazine.
550
00:37:02,133 --> 00:37:03,633
She testified in the Senate
about...
551
00:37:03,635 --> 00:37:05,935
Yeah, I know
who Gloria Steinem is.
552
00:37:05,937 --> 00:37:08,137
What if you got hurt
or arrested?
553
00:37:08,139 --> 00:37:10,106
Mom, it's a rally, not a riot.
554
00:37:10,108 --> 00:37:11,475
Jane, these things
can get out of hand.
555
00:37:11,477 --> 00:37:13,577
Okay, well, I'm 15 years old,
and you don't need
556
00:37:13,579 --> 00:37:15,278
- to control every minute of my life.
- Yes, I do.
557
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,280
That is my job. And your job
is to go to school and learn.
558
00:37:17,282 --> 00:37:20,150
Well, Gloria says we need
to unlearn the status quo.
559
00:37:20,152 --> 00:37:22,686
Oh, so you're
on a first-name basis now?
560
00:37:22,688 --> 00:37:24,354
You know what, Mom?
561
00:37:24,356 --> 00:37:26,423
If you want to sit around
with your students and talk
562
00:37:26,425 --> 00:37:28,693
- about how shitty it is to be a girl...
- Hey. Language.
563
00:37:28,695 --> 00:37:30,293
But don't pretend
it's a movement, okay?
564
00:37:30,295 --> 00:37:33,096
It's not a movement
if everyone's just sitting.
565
00:37:33,098 --> 00:37:36,302
- That's a support group.
- Jane, that's enough.
566
00:37:39,038 --> 00:37:41,239
We should get going.
567
00:37:41,241 --> 00:37:43,576
Yeah, go make yourself pretty
for Daddy's party.
568
00:37:45,211 --> 00:37:47,311
You know what?
Go to your room.
569
00:37:47,313 --> 00:37:49,182
Fine.
570
00:37:51,351 --> 00:37:53,017
No, no, it's well known.
571
00:37:53,019 --> 00:37:55,587
Tax is the only genuinely
funny area of the law.
572
00:37:55,589 --> 00:37:58,122
I think most of us
just want careers that have
573
00:37:58,124 --> 00:38:01,193
- a little more, uh, impact.
- Hmm.
574
00:38:01,195 --> 00:38:03,195
You know, young people
in Sweden these days
575
00:38:03,197 --> 00:38:04,763
- aren't getting married?
- Really?
576
00:38:04,765 --> 00:38:06,365
It's true.
They're getting engaged.
577
00:38:06,367 --> 00:38:10,035
- Hmm.
- They're still living together.
578
00:38:10,037 --> 00:38:12,037
They're still having kids,
raising a family.
579
00:38:12,039 --> 00:38:14,206
But they're not getting
married. You know why?
580
00:38:14,208 --> 00:38:16,375
They can have sex without it.
581
00:38:18,613 --> 00:38:22,147
- It's because of taxes.
- Mm-hmm. - Ah.
582
00:38:22,149 --> 00:38:24,451
That's true. After the war,
Sweden passed a law that said
583
00:38:24,453 --> 00:38:27,287
married couples will now file
joint income tax returns.
584
00:38:27,289 --> 00:38:29,088
However,
unlike the United States,
585
00:38:29,090 --> 00:38:31,224
they weren't given
any of the benefits from it.
586
00:38:31,226 --> 00:38:33,593
So married Swedes
were finding themselves
587
00:38:33,595 --> 00:38:35,228
in the uncomfortable position
588
00:38:35,230 --> 00:38:37,230
of now being
in a higher tax bracket.
589
00:38:37,232 --> 00:38:40,133
- Oh, really?
- So they got divorced.
590
00:38:40,135 --> 00:38:42,035
Of course, they
were still living together.
591
00:38:42,037 --> 00:38:43,804
So the Swedish government
then passes a new law
592
00:38:43,806 --> 00:38:46,105
that says, all right, married
couples who get divorced
593
00:38:46,107 --> 00:38:48,375
but continue to live together,
for tax purposes,
594
00:38:48,377 --> 00:38:50,711
will be considered
still married.
595
00:38:50,713 --> 00:38:52,213
So they did
what anyone would do.
596
00:38:52,215 --> 00:38:53,781
They add a second entrance
to their home
597
00:38:53,783 --> 00:38:55,817
with a nice wall that goes
right down the middle,
598
00:38:55,819 --> 00:38:58,219
- with doors for...
- easy access.
599
00:38:58,221 --> 00:39:00,054
"All right, fine,"
600
00:39:00,056 --> 00:39:02,456
says the Swedish government,
"new law."
601
00:39:02,458 --> 00:39:04,593
Once married,
now divorced couples living
602
00:39:04,595 --> 00:39:09,063
in a two-income household
that is subdivided would,
603
00:39:09,065 --> 00:39:10,832
again, for tax purposes,
604
00:39:10,834 --> 00:39:13,201
be considered living together,
and therefore...
605
00:39:13,203 --> 00:39:15,203
Therefore still married.
606
00:39:15,205 --> 00:39:16,805
Now he's got it.
607
00:39:16,807 --> 00:39:18,540
And this went on for decades.
608
00:39:18,542 --> 00:39:20,542
All the while,
a whole generation of Swedes
609
00:39:20,544 --> 00:39:22,677
simply skirted the issue
by never getting married
610
00:39:22,679 --> 00:39:24,312
in the first place.
Thank you.
611
00:39:24,314 --> 00:39:26,716
Speaking of, have you all met
my lovely wife, Ruth?
612
00:39:26,718 --> 00:39:29,217
The moral of this story
is that in their attempt
613
00:39:29,219 --> 00:39:31,554
to raise revenue,
the Swedish government
614
00:39:31,556 --> 00:39:34,423
ruined all those young men's
best hope at happiness.
615
00:39:34,425 --> 00:39:36,692
Exactly. Because...
616
00:39:36,694 --> 00:39:38,861
how a government taxes
its citizens
617
00:39:38,863 --> 00:39:42,198
is a direct declaration
of a country's values.
618
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:45,268
So tell me, what could have
more impact than that?
619
00:39:46,304 --> 00:39:48,504
You'd be wise to listen, boys.
620
00:39:48,506 --> 00:39:50,273
I-I swear to Christ,
621
00:39:50,275 --> 00:39:53,510
Martin Ginsburg will be signing
all of our checks someday.
622
00:39:55,481 --> 00:39:58,149
You're a smart girl, Ruthy.
You married a star.
623
00:40:01,186 --> 00:40:03,120
Tom Maller's barely evolved.
624
00:40:03,122 --> 00:40:05,589
He started walking upright
last week.
625
00:40:05,591 --> 00:40:07,457
- You always do that.
- What?
626
00:40:07,459 --> 00:40:09,593
You act like...
like it doesn't matter.
627
00:40:09,595 --> 00:40:12,195
- No.
- But all the little brush-offs,
628
00:40:12,197 --> 00:40:14,231
the dismissive pats
on the head,
629
00:40:14,233 --> 00:40:16,433
- it-it matters, Marty.
- Why?
630
00:40:16,435 --> 00:40:20,638
You know what you're doing
is important, so who cares?
631
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,408
Okay, fine. Next time my boss
gives me a clumsy compliment,
632
00:40:23,410 --> 00:40:26,344
I'll challenge him to a duel.
Will that make you happy?
633
00:40:26,346 --> 00:40:28,680
I wouldn't want to hurt
your stellar reputation.
634
00:40:28,682 --> 00:40:30,682
Just tell me what you want.
635
00:40:30,684 --> 00:40:33,351
Nothing. I want nothing.
I-I want you to go to work
636
00:40:33,353 --> 00:40:34,853
- and wow your bosses and clients...
- Oh, great.
637
00:40:34,855 --> 00:40:37,155
...and be the youngest partner
in the history of the firm.
638
00:40:37,157 --> 00:40:38,724
That's not fair. That's not
fair, and you know it.
639
00:40:38,726 --> 00:40:39,792
Then I want you
to walk me home, Marty,
640
00:40:39,794 --> 00:40:41,860
so I can sit in my corner
and write a lesson plan
641
00:40:41,862 --> 00:40:42,928
to inspire the next generation
of students...
642
00:40:42,930 --> 00:40:45,229
- No one's put you in the corner.
- ...to go forth
643
00:40:45,231 --> 00:40:46,532
- and fight for equality.
- I don't understand why
644
00:40:46,534 --> 00:40:48,667
you're acting like that's
such a bad thing.
645
00:40:48,669 --> 00:40:51,637
You're out there training
the next generation of lawyers
646
00:40:51,639 --> 00:40:52,738
to change the world.
647
00:40:52,740 --> 00:40:55,409
'Cause that's
what I wanted to do!
648
00:41:01,717 --> 00:41:03,785
Kiki. Kiki.
649
00:41:15,297 --> 00:41:16,565
Page 21.
650
00:41:17,900 --> 00:41:19,967
I don't read tax court cases.
651
00:41:19,969 --> 00:41:21,501
Read this one.
652
00:41:21,503 --> 00:41:23,971
The IRS denied a petitioner
a tax deduction
653
00:41:23,973 --> 00:41:27,407
to hire a nurse to take care
of an invalid mother.
654
00:41:27,409 --> 00:41:30,544
- Sounds like a real page-turner.
- Hmm.
655
00:41:30,546 --> 00:41:33,547
- Ask me why.
- Marty, I have a lecture to write.
656
00:41:33,549 --> 00:41:35,284
Hmm. Okay.
657
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:41,224
It's because
the petitioner is a man.
658
00:41:46,362 --> 00:41:48,830
Marty...
659
00:41:48,832 --> 00:41:51,399
Section 214 of the tax code
660
00:41:51,401 --> 00:41:55,506
assumes a caregiver
has to be a woman.
661
00:41:56,874 --> 00:41:58,874
This is sex-based
discrimination
662
00:41:58,876 --> 00:42:01,512
against a man.
663
00:42:02,446 --> 00:42:04,947
Poor guy.
664
00:42:04,949 --> 00:42:07,582
If a federal court
665
00:42:07,584 --> 00:42:11,688
ruled that this law
is unconstitutional,
666
00:42:11,690 --> 00:42:15,457
then it could become
the precedent others refer to
667
00:42:15,459 --> 00:42:16,926
and build on.
668
00:42:16,928 --> 00:42:19,397
Men and women both. It-it...
669
00:42:20,565 --> 00:42:23,299
It could topple
the whole damn system
670
00:42:23,301 --> 00:42:25,370
of discrimination.
671
00:42:27,039 --> 00:42:29,272
What?
672
00:42:29,274 --> 00:42:31,274
Nothing.
I'm just thrilled
673
00:42:31,276 --> 00:42:34,544
at your newfound enthusiasm
for tax law.
674
00:42:34,546 --> 00:42:36,682
Marty.
675
00:42:37,750 --> 00:42:39,482
Oh, Marty.
676
00:42:39,484 --> 00:42:42,553
We need to take this case.
677
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,035
Of course he says
he's against bombing Cambodia.
678
00:42:57,037 --> 00:42:59,336
I want to know, where's
the bill to defund it?
679
00:42:59,338 --> 00:43:01,438
It's derogatory, it's taunting,
but it's speech.
680
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,308
Hi. Mel Wulf is expecting me.
681
00:43:04,310 --> 00:43:06,511
He wants to get his hands
on Nixon, or he hopes
682
00:43:06,513 --> 00:43:08,413
- the Viet Cong do?
- Well, why? What's the difference?
683
00:43:08,415 --> 00:43:09,781
Five years in prison.
684
00:43:09,783 --> 00:43:11,351
Go.
685
00:43:26,801 --> 00:43:28,399
Come on.
686
00:43:40,381 --> 00:43:41,781
Ladies and gentlemen,
687
00:43:41,783 --> 00:43:44,117
three-time Camp Che-Na-Wah
All-Around Camper,
688
00:43:44,119 --> 00:43:46,587
Ruth "Kiki" Bader.
689
00:43:48,891 --> 00:43:51,691
Oh, and for all you
who think this job is hard,
690
00:43:51,693 --> 00:43:55,061
I judged the 13-and-unders with
a color war trophy on the line.
691
00:43:55,063 --> 00:43:57,366
Back to work.
692
00:43:58,500 --> 00:44:01,303
Hey, Kiki. What do you say?
693
00:44:02,471 --> 00:44:05,405
Hi, Mel.
694
00:44:05,407 --> 00:44:07,509
Sorry about that.
695
00:44:08,912 --> 00:44:10,745
You said you had a case.
696
00:44:10,747 --> 00:44:12,914
This is not a case...
this is the opening salvo
697
00:44:12,916 --> 00:44:15,683
on a 50-year war for
a new class of civil rights.
698
00:44:15,685 --> 00:44:18,386
- Yes, exactly.
- Huh. I can't do this.
699
00:44:18,388 --> 00:44:19,954
- This is beyond my mandate.
- Wha...
700
00:44:19,956 --> 00:44:22,456
American Civil Liberties Union?
701
00:44:22,458 --> 00:44:23,991
Women's rights
are civil rights.
702
00:44:23,993 --> 00:44:26,928
I'm still getting flack for
defending draft card burners.
703
00:44:26,930 --> 00:44:28,997
And the right to protest
actually exists.
704
00:44:28,999 --> 00:44:30,565
After you.
705
00:44:30,567 --> 00:44:31,801
Here.
706
00:44:34,004 --> 00:44:36,106
Phyllis, can I get a...?
707
00:44:45,683 --> 00:44:47,451
How's Marty?
708
00:44:48,752 --> 00:44:50,153
He's fine.
709
00:44:50,155 --> 00:44:52,021
Still protecting the rich
710
00:44:52,023 --> 00:44:54,425
against the predations
of the poor?
711
00:44:56,127 --> 00:44:59,662
If we're gonna appeal,
the court needs to agree
712
00:44:59,664 --> 00:45:01,664
there's a constitutional
handle here.
713
00:45:01,666 --> 00:45:03,933
How did you even convince this
guy to let you represent him?
714
00:45:03,935 --> 00:45:05,735
I-I'll take care of that.
715
00:45:05,737 --> 00:45:07,136
- He doesn't know?
- Alone...
716
00:45:07,138 --> 00:45:08,972
- Are you kidding me?
- Alone, the judges
717
00:45:08,974 --> 00:45:12,008
- may not give Marty and I the benefit of the doubt.
- Whoa.
718
00:45:12,010 --> 00:45:14,711
But with your name
alongside ours on the brief...
719
00:45:14,713 --> 00:45:16,813
Yeah.
720
00:45:16,815 --> 00:45:19,016
Mel, you must see the...
721
00:45:19,018 --> 00:45:21,517
the opportunity
this case represents.
722
00:45:21,519 --> 00:45:22,987
You think the judges
are gonna be sympathetic
723
00:45:22,989 --> 00:45:24,655
just 'cause they all
have prostates?
724
00:45:24,657 --> 00:45:26,924
Men and women all eat at the
same lunch counters, they drink
725
00:45:26,926 --> 00:45:29,059
at the same water fountains,
they go to the same schools...
726
00:45:29,061 --> 00:45:31,562
- Women can't attend Dartmouth.
- Men can't go to Smith.
727
00:45:31,564 --> 00:45:34,232
Women police officers can't
patrol New York City streets.
728
00:45:34,234 --> 00:45:35,768
We have to get...
729
00:45:38,471 --> 00:45:40,738
We have to get credit cards
730
00:45:40,740 --> 00:45:42,539
in our husbands' names.
731
00:45:42,541 --> 00:45:44,075
You're not a minority.
732
00:45:44,077 --> 00:45:46,211
You're 51% of the population!
733
00:45:46,213 --> 00:45:47,979
And it's been tried.
Muller, Goesaert.
734
00:45:47,981 --> 00:45:49,681
Uh... what's the other one?
735
00:45:49,683 --> 00:45:51,583
The one with the woman
with the baseball bat.
736
00:45:51,585 --> 00:45:53,251
- Gwendolyn Hoyt.
- Gwendolyn Hoyt. Exactly.
737
00:45:53,253 --> 00:45:54,786
Yeah, and morally,
they were right.
738
00:45:54,788 --> 00:45:55,954
Yet they lost.
739
00:45:55,956 --> 00:45:57,589
Ruth...
740
00:45:57,591 --> 00:45:59,791
morality does not win the day.
741
00:45:59,793 --> 00:46:00,759
Look around you.
742
00:46:00,761 --> 00:46:03,561
Dorothy Kenyon
could not get women equality
743
00:46:03,563 --> 00:46:05,131
by arguing a case
with sex, murder
744
00:46:05,133 --> 00:46:06,631
and prison time on the line.
745
00:46:06,633 --> 00:46:08,234
You and Marty think
you're gonna do it
746
00:46:08,236 --> 00:46:10,903
with this guy and his taxes?
747
00:46:48,178 --> 00:46:50,111
Operator.
748
00:46:50,113 --> 00:46:52,681
I-I... I need a number.
749
00:46:53,882 --> 00:46:55,950
Denver, Colorado.
750
00:46:55,952 --> 00:46:58,152
Come on,
you're gonna miss your flight.
751
00:46:58,154 --> 00:47:00,722
Now, you have to get James from
school while I'm in Denver.
752
00:47:00,724 --> 00:47:02,623
Mom, I told you,
Denise and I are starting our
753
00:47:02,625 --> 00:47:04,258
- consciousness-raising group.
- Wait. Please wait.
754
00:47:04,260 --> 00:47:06,928
Take James with you.
755
00:47:06,930 --> 00:47:08,629
Will you be all right?
756
00:47:08,631 --> 00:47:11,065
- Yeah.
- We'll survive somehow.
757
00:47:11,067 --> 00:47:13,636
Bye. Bye.
758
00:47:14,338 --> 00:47:15,970
Go kick ass.
759
00:47:15,972 --> 00:47:17,605
Meter's running.
760
00:47:17,607 --> 00:47:20,042
Bye, Mom.
761
00:47:20,044 --> 00:47:22,545
- Bye.
- Bye, Mom.
762
00:47:38,196 --> 00:47:39,764
Thank you.
763
00:47:53,211 --> 00:47:55,346
- Mr. Moritz.
- Mrs. Ginsburg.
764
00:47:55,348 --> 00:47:57,682
Um, you're early.
765
00:47:58,984 --> 00:48:01,951
Uh, I-I can come back
in ten minutes if you prefer.
766
00:48:01,953 --> 00:48:03,320
No, you might as...
767
00:48:03,322 --> 00:48:06,725
might as well come in now
and have your say.
768
00:48:07,659 --> 00:48:09,594
Shoes off, please.
769
00:48:11,330 --> 00:48:13,230
Just come on in.
770
00:48:13,232 --> 00:48:15,234
Excuse me.
771
00:48:16,335 --> 00:48:19,337
- Are you done, Mom?
- No. Not yet.
772
00:48:19,339 --> 00:48:21,339
- You want your...
- I'm done, thanks.
773
00:48:21,341 --> 00:48:23,341
- You want your crossword?
- Yeah.
774
00:48:23,343 --> 00:48:25,345
- Okay.
- Please.
775
00:48:27,214 --> 00:48:30,148
Here you go.
776
00:48:30,150 --> 00:48:31,349
Mom.
777
00:48:31,351 --> 00:48:33,351
- Uh-huh.
- This is Mrs. Ginsburg.
778
00:48:33,353 --> 00:48:35,687
She's the New York lawyer
I told you about.
779
00:48:35,689 --> 00:48:37,689
Mrs. Moritz, hello.
780
00:48:37,691 --> 00:48:39,993
I thought she would be bigger.
781
00:48:41,662 --> 00:48:44,297
- I...
- Uh, y-you can have a seat.
782
00:48:44,299 --> 00:48:46,064
Uh, here.
Here you go.
783
00:48:46,066 --> 00:48:47,400
Do you want your magnifier?
784
00:48:47,402 --> 00:48:48,733
- Yeah, please. Yeah.
- Okay.
785
00:48:48,735 --> 00:48:50,735
There you go. All right.
786
00:48:50,737 --> 00:48:52,840
- You want a drink?
- Uh-huh.
787
00:48:57,278 --> 00:48:59,178
I-I see you were a drum major.
788
00:48:59,180 --> 00:49:00,746
I was a twirler.
789
00:49:00,748 --> 00:49:02,884
That was a thousand years ago.
790
00:49:08,424 --> 00:49:10,990
Mr. Moritz, about your case...
791
00:49:10,992 --> 00:49:13,127
I don't have a case.
792
00:49:13,129 --> 00:49:15,229
Four lawyers told me so.
793
00:49:15,231 --> 00:49:17,030
And that judge...
794
00:49:17,032 --> 00:49:17,864
Tietjens...
795
00:49:17,866 --> 00:49:20,234
he basically called me
a tax cheat.
796
00:49:20,236 --> 00:49:21,370
Are you?
797
00:49:22,805 --> 00:49:25,906
I never cheated at anything
in my life.
798
00:49:25,908 --> 00:49:28,442
"Tasmanian egg-layer."
Eight letters.
799
00:49:28,444 --> 00:49:30,112
Not now, Mom.
800
00:49:32,047 --> 00:49:34,349
Tell me in your own words,
801
00:49:34,351 --> 00:49:36,783
why did you hire a nurse?
802
00:49:36,785 --> 00:49:39,120
If you've never cared
for an ailing parent...
803
00:49:39,122 --> 00:49:41,055
I have.
804
00:49:41,057 --> 00:49:42,157
Then you know.
805
00:49:42,159 --> 00:49:45,193
Between the dressing
and the bathing and the toilet,
806
00:49:45,195 --> 00:49:47,061
it's not a task for one person,
807
00:49:47,063 --> 00:49:49,164
especially if you have
a day job.
808
00:49:49,166 --> 00:49:52,767
If it wasn't for Cleeta, uh,
I'd have to put Mom in a home.
809
00:49:52,769 --> 00:49:55,437
So you deducted Cleeta's salary
on your taxes.
810
00:49:55,439 --> 00:49:58,039
The judge said
the tax code was clear.
811
00:49:58,041 --> 00:50:00,842
Caretaker's deduction
was available to all women,
812
00:50:00,844 --> 00:50:05,481
but only to men who had wives
who were incapacitated or dead
813
00:50:05,483 --> 00:50:08,050
- or were divorced.
- And you've never been married?
814
00:50:08,052 --> 00:50:10,819
- No.
- The men who wrote that law couldn't even fathom
815
00:50:10,821 --> 00:50:12,922
that a bachelor,
choosing to take care
816
00:50:12,924 --> 00:50:15,291
of a parent at home,
might exist.
817
00:50:15,293 --> 00:50:17,226
"Tasmanian egg-layer,"
818
00:50:17,228 --> 00:50:19,228
- second letter: "L."
- Mom,
819
00:50:19,230 --> 00:50:22,099
- I'll help you in a little bit.
- How about "platypus"?
820
00:50:25,069 --> 00:50:27,772
Ah! Ah.
821
00:50:29,975 --> 00:50:32,809
I'm a salesman, Mrs. Ginsburg,
822
00:50:32,811 --> 00:50:36,114
and I know when I'm being sold.
823
00:50:38,116 --> 00:50:42,386
With due respect,
you have $296 at issue.
824
00:50:42,388 --> 00:50:44,854
I'm not here for the money.
825
00:50:44,856 --> 00:50:48,492
We'd represent your appeal
pro bono if you'll let us.
826
00:50:48,494 --> 00:50:51,262
So... the judge was wrong?
827
00:50:51,264 --> 00:50:53,564
Mr. Moritz...
828
00:50:53,566 --> 00:50:56,703
the law is wrong.
829
00:51:00,106 --> 00:51:02,442
Thank you. I was hungry.
830
00:51:04,578 --> 00:51:07,446
If it's not for the money...
831
00:51:07,448 --> 00:51:09,816
why are you here?
832
00:51:13,187 --> 00:51:16,388
The 14th Amendment to
the United States Constitution
833
00:51:16,390 --> 00:51:19,891
says all people must be treated
equally under the law.
834
00:51:19,893 --> 00:51:23,161
Yet there are...
I don't know how many laws
835
00:51:23,163 --> 00:51:26,298
like the caregiver deduction
that say, in effect,
836
00:51:26,300 --> 00:51:28,033
women stay home,
men go to work,
837
00:51:28,035 --> 00:51:30,235
and that it should stay
that way forever.
838
00:51:30,237 --> 00:51:32,605
I want to convince
the federal courts
839
00:51:32,607 --> 00:51:36,908
that those laws
are unconstitutional.
840
00:51:36,910 --> 00:51:38,079
How do you do that?
841
00:51:39,381 --> 00:51:41,614
One case at a time.
842
00:51:41,616 --> 00:51:43,184
Starting with yours.
843
00:51:44,286 --> 00:51:46,187
So I'm a guinea pig?
844
00:51:47,289 --> 00:51:49,088
No, sir.
845
00:51:49,090 --> 00:51:51,457
You're the man marching
out ahead of the band,
846
00:51:51,459 --> 00:51:52,925
leading the way.
847
00:51:54,162 --> 00:51:56,931
Just like that drum major
you used to be.
848
00:51:58,334 --> 00:52:00,967
I've invested a lot of my own reputation
849
00:52:00,969 --> 00:52:03,337
to building up your career,
and now you're on track
850
00:52:03,339 --> 00:52:06,407
to be the youngest partner
in the history of the firm.
851
00:52:06,409 --> 00:52:10,544
And you want to risk that
for some cockamamy case?
852
00:52:10,546 --> 00:52:12,579
Tom, I'm contractually
obligated to ask
853
00:52:12,581 --> 00:52:15,082
to take outside work,
and I'm asking, but...
854
00:52:15,084 --> 00:52:18,285
Okay, for God sakes, you're
traipsing into this for what?
855
00:52:18,287 --> 00:52:21,289
So your wife can feel
like a real lawyer?
856
00:52:21,291 --> 00:52:23,258
She is a real lawyer, Tom.
857
00:52:23,260 --> 00:52:26,094
You want to support Ruth,
tell her the truth.
858
00:52:26,096 --> 00:52:28,496
- Which is?
- The case is unwinnable.
859
00:52:28,498 --> 00:52:30,665
Congress can write
whatever taxes it wants.
860
00:52:30,667 --> 00:52:32,434
That's not open
to constitutional attack.
861
00:52:32,436 --> 00:52:35,303
Or maybe you just say that
because no one's been able
862
00:52:35,305 --> 00:52:37,305
to successfully do it before.
863
00:52:37,307 --> 00:52:39,240
Oh, Marty.
864
00:52:39,242 --> 00:52:41,376
Fine. Try, but...
865
00:52:41,378 --> 00:52:44,380
when you lose
and you embarrass our firm,
866
00:52:44,382 --> 00:52:47,316
just be ready for your career
to come crashing back to earth.
867
00:52:47,318 --> 00:52:49,185
Okay, noted, noted.
And thank you, Tom.
868
00:52:49,187 --> 00:52:52,054
- Thank you. Thank you.
- Yeah, yeah, yeah.
869
00:52:52,056 --> 00:52:53,689
No! Murder
can never be condoned,
870
00:52:53,691 --> 00:52:56,092
- least of all by a lawyer.
- It's called justice.
871
00:52:56,094 --> 00:52:58,394
Yeah, what's just to you
may not be just to me
872
00:52:58,396 --> 00:53:00,563
- or to someone else.
- You know what I'm talking about.
873
00:53:00,565 --> 00:53:03,265
- Hello, family unit.
- And would it kill you to admit
874
00:53:03,267 --> 00:53:05,401
that maybe I actually did
something right?
875
00:53:05,403 --> 00:53:08,104
- This is an "A" paper.
- Yeah, of course it is.
876
00:53:08,106 --> 00:53:11,208
You're a beautiful writer.
It just needs more work.
877
00:53:11,210 --> 00:53:13,477
Please tell me
you aren't going 15 rounds
878
00:53:13,479 --> 00:53:15,045
over To Kill a Mockingbird.
879
00:53:15,047 --> 00:53:17,414
Daddy, can you please tell Mom
that Atticus Finch
880
00:53:17,416 --> 00:53:18,615
can be a role model.
881
00:53:18,617 --> 00:53:20,250
He covers up
Bob Ewell's murder.
882
00:53:20,252 --> 00:53:21,518
He's a terrible lawyer.
883
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:23,487
- Why? 'Cause you say so?
- No, not me.
884
00:53:23,489 --> 00:53:26,390
Canon 1 of the American Bar
Association's Model Code
885
00:53:26,392 --> 00:53:29,359
- of Responsibility.
- What are you talking about?!
886
00:53:29,361 --> 00:53:30,695
It's called legal ethics.
887
00:53:30,697 --> 00:53:32,697
Well, you'd do
exactly the same thing
888
00:53:32,699 --> 00:53:34,567
if you actually had a heart.
889
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:43,174
I don't know where
she gets her stubbornness.
890
00:53:43,176 --> 00:53:45,510
Can't imagine.
891
00:53:45,512 --> 00:53:47,614
So, how was your day?
892
00:53:53,454 --> 00:53:55,587
"History discloses that woman
893
00:53:55,589 --> 00:53:58,524
"has always been dependent
upon man.
894
00:53:58,526 --> 00:54:01,427
"Like children,
she needs special care.
895
00:54:01,429 --> 00:54:03,462
This justifies a difference
in legislation..."
896
00:54:03,464 --> 00:54:06,331
- Muller v. Oregon, the law of the land.
- Wow.
897
00:54:06,333 --> 00:54:08,233
Or Bradwell v. Illinois.
898
00:54:08,235 --> 00:54:10,770
"The destiny of woman
is the benign offices
899
00:54:10,772 --> 00:54:12,739
"of wife and mother.
900
00:54:12,741 --> 00:54:14,741
This is the law
of the Creator."
901
00:54:14,743 --> 00:54:16,643
I'm writing this brief
902
00:54:16,645 --> 00:54:20,112
and citing the same cases
with the exact same precedents
903
00:54:20,114 --> 00:54:22,047
as-as everyone before us.
904
00:54:22,049 --> 00:54:24,484
Marty, if this is
what we go in with,
905
00:54:24,486 --> 00:54:26,085
we're gonna lose.
906
00:54:28,089 --> 00:54:30,089
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Wait, wait, wait.
907
00:54:30,091 --> 00:54:32,091
I got it. I got it.
908
00:54:32,093 --> 00:54:35,330
At least she's not listening
to The Monkees.
909
00:54:38,768 --> 00:54:40,801
I'm busy.
910
00:55:00,223 --> 00:55:02,323
Come here.
911
00:55:02,325 --> 00:55:04,193
Come here.
912
00:55:12,302 --> 00:55:14,402
I'm fine.
913
00:55:15,672 --> 00:55:18,807
I can be as tough as she is.
914
00:55:18,809 --> 00:55:20,843
She's a bully.
915
00:55:20,845 --> 00:55:25,148
And she needs everyone
to know how smart she is.
916
00:55:26,651 --> 00:55:29,552
Do you want Mom
to stop being smart?
917
00:55:29,554 --> 00:55:32,622
I want her to stop rubbing it
in everyone's face
918
00:55:32,624 --> 00:55:34,292
all the time.
919
00:55:40,298 --> 00:55:45,301
Grandma Celia died
when Mom was about your age.
920
00:55:45,303 --> 00:55:47,871
But up until her dying breath,
921
00:55:47,873 --> 00:55:50,373
they would read together,
922
00:55:50,375 --> 00:55:53,510
debate ideas together...
923
00:55:53,512 --> 00:55:58,114
and she taught your mom
to question everything.
924
00:55:58,116 --> 00:56:01,218
She's not trying
to bully you, Jane.
925
00:56:01,220 --> 00:56:04,888
She just doesn't want you
to feel small.
926
00:56:04,890 --> 00:56:10,095
She wants to give you
what her mom taught her.
927
00:56:11,397 --> 00:56:14,298
That's how she...
928
00:56:14,300 --> 00:56:17,200
shows her heart.
929
00:56:17,202 --> 00:56:18,304
Hmm?
930
00:56:37,424 --> 00:56:39,792
Is she okay?
931
00:56:39,794 --> 00:56:42,095
She'll be fine.
932
00:56:51,372 --> 00:56:53,238
This is stupid.
933
00:56:53,240 --> 00:56:55,407
You're the one who said
I'm supposed to be in school.
934
00:56:55,409 --> 00:56:58,177
If you're gonna write
about great American lawyers,
935
00:56:58,179 --> 00:57:00,281
you may as well meet one.
936
00:57:13,829 --> 00:57:15,530
You ladies look lost.
937
00:57:17,900 --> 00:57:20,266
Well, spit it out.
938
00:57:20,268 --> 00:57:22,335
Miss Kenyon,
w-we're here to see you.
939
00:57:22,337 --> 00:57:24,805
I tried to make
an appointment...
940
00:57:24,807 --> 00:57:27,273
Well, here I am.
I don't have all day.
941
00:57:27,275 --> 00:57:29,677
It's about Gwendolyn Hoyt.
942
00:57:29,679 --> 00:57:32,680
In that case,
I have no interest in talking
943
00:57:32,682 --> 00:57:33,881
to either one of you.
944
00:57:33,883 --> 00:57:35,683
I'm-I'm arguing a case.
945
00:57:35,685 --> 00:57:38,552
Sex discrimination violates
the Equal Protection principle.
946
00:57:38,554 --> 00:57:41,990
Equal Protection was coined
to grant equality to the Negro,
947
00:57:41,992 --> 00:57:44,425
a task at which
it has dismally failed.
948
00:57:44,427 --> 00:57:46,594
What makes you think women
would fare any better?
949
00:57:46,596 --> 00:57:48,529
Please, if we
could just talk for...
950
00:57:48,531 --> 00:57:50,899
You want to know
how I blew it... is that it?
951
00:57:50,901 --> 00:57:52,467
What I'd do differently?
952
00:57:52,469 --> 00:57:55,337
Why? You think you
can change the country?
953
00:57:55,339 --> 00:57:57,406
You should look
to her generation.
954
00:57:57,408 --> 00:57:59,675
They're taking to the streets,
demanding change,
955
00:57:59,677 --> 00:58:02,244
like we did when we fought
for the vote.
956
00:58:02,246 --> 00:58:04,413
Our mistake
was thinking we'd won.
957
00:58:04,415 --> 00:58:08,316
We started asking, "please,"
as if civil rights were sweets
958
00:58:08,318 --> 00:58:10,552
to be handed out by judges.
959
00:58:10,554 --> 00:58:12,587
Protests are important,
but changing the culture
960
00:58:12,589 --> 00:58:15,357
means nothing
if the law doesn't change.
961
00:58:15,359 --> 00:58:17,394
As a lawyer,
you must believe that.
962
00:58:18,463 --> 00:58:20,430
Let me guess.
963
00:58:20,432 --> 00:58:22,899
You're a professor, aren't you?
964
00:58:22,901 --> 00:58:24,000
Yeah.
965
00:58:24,002 --> 00:58:26,369
Ton of knowledge and no smarts.
966
00:58:26,371 --> 00:58:29,639
- Mom, we should go.
- You want advice? Here it is.
967
00:58:29,641 --> 00:58:32,943
Tell your client she won't find
equality in a courtroom.
968
00:58:32,945 --> 00:58:35,445
My client's name
is Charles Moritz.
969
00:58:35,447 --> 00:58:36,579
That's cute.
970
00:58:36,581 --> 00:58:40,684
He hired a nurse to take care
of his mother, but...
971
00:58:40,686 --> 00:58:44,354
he was denied a caregiver
deduction on his taxes.
972
00:58:44,356 --> 00:58:45,856
He's never been married.
973
00:58:45,858 --> 00:58:50,596
You found a bachelor taking
care of his mother at home.
974
00:58:52,431 --> 00:58:54,999
The judges will be
repulsed by him.
975
00:58:55,001 --> 00:58:57,938
Feeling anything is a start.
976
00:58:59,505 --> 00:59:01,906
What did you say your name was?
977
00:59:01,908 --> 00:59:05,910
Ruth Bader Ginsburg.
978
00:59:05,912 --> 00:59:07,412
Well...
979
00:59:07,414 --> 00:59:09,581
sorry, Professor Ginsburg.
980
00:59:09,583 --> 00:59:11,316
Maybe someday.
981
00:59:11,318 --> 00:59:14,053
But the country isn't ready.
982
00:59:14,055 --> 00:59:16,055
Change minds first,
983
00:59:16,057 --> 00:59:18,389
then change the law.
984
00:59:18,391 --> 00:59:20,391
If you'll excuse me,
the mayor's decided
985
00:59:20,393 --> 00:59:21,927
to rename the neighborhood.
986
00:59:21,929 --> 00:59:25,363
So now a developer is kicking
30 families out of the building
987
00:59:25,365 --> 00:59:27,900
he abandoned ten years ago.
988
00:59:27,902 --> 00:59:31,103
SoHo. Who ever heard
of such a ridiculous thing?
989
00:59:32,573 --> 00:59:34,907
I know she's
your personal hero and all,
990
00:59:34,909 --> 00:59:38,344
- but she's kind of a bitch.
- No, she's formidable.
991
00:59:38,346 --> 00:59:40,513
Dorothy Kenyon has been
fighting for women's rights
992
00:59:40,515 --> 00:59:43,649
and civil rights and
labor rights her entire career.
993
00:59:43,651 --> 00:59:45,085
She didn't always win,
994
00:59:45,087 --> 00:59:48,088
but she made damn sure
she was taken seriously.
995
00:59:48,090 --> 00:59:49,689
She didn't help you.
996
00:59:49,691 --> 00:59:51,691
What are you gonna do now?
997
00:59:51,693 --> 00:59:54,461
It's the right cause,
it's the right client, but...
998
00:59:54,463 --> 00:59:57,764
women have been losing the same
argument for over a century.
999
00:59:57,766 --> 00:59:59,132
Well...
1000
00:59:59,134 --> 01:00:02,136
just because you lost a hundred
years before you started
1001
01:00:02,138 --> 01:00:04,706
is no reason not to try to win.
1002
01:00:06,742 --> 01:00:09,576
Jane, that was very wise.
1003
01:00:09,578 --> 01:00:12,314
You know who said it first?
1004
01:00:13,616 --> 01:00:15,082
Atticus Finch.
1005
01:00:20,023 --> 01:00:21,155
Quick.
1006
01:00:22,959 --> 01:00:24,992
Hey, looking good, ladies!
1007
01:00:24,994 --> 01:00:26,828
Just ignore them.
1008
01:00:26,830 --> 01:00:29,664
Hey, we'll keep you warm
if you're getting wet.
1009
01:00:29,666 --> 01:00:31,599
Oh, yeah? Real nice!
1010
01:00:31,601 --> 01:00:34,535
Do you kiss your mother
with that mouth, asshole?
1011
01:00:34,537 --> 01:00:35,871
- Oh, whoa.
- Whoa!
1012
01:00:35,873 --> 01:00:38,907
Mom, you can't let boys
talk to you like that.
1013
01:00:38,909 --> 01:00:40,611
Taxi!
1014
01:00:45,683 --> 01:00:47,183
Mom, come on.
1015
01:00:47,185 --> 01:00:49,185
You're getting soaked.
1016
01:00:49,187 --> 01:00:51,420
Look at you, Jane.
1017
01:00:51,422 --> 01:00:55,657
You're a liberated,
fearless young woman.
1018
01:00:55,659 --> 01:00:58,493
20 years ago, you couldn't
have been who you are today.
1019
01:00:58,495 --> 01:01:02,131
Dorothy Kenyon's wrong... the...
the times have already changed.
1020
01:01:02,133 --> 01:01:04,000
You coming or what?
1021
01:01:04,002 --> 01:01:05,704
Yeah, yeah, we're coming.
1022
01:01:07,539 --> 01:01:08,905
It's what Professor Freund
1023
01:01:08,907 --> 01:01:10,573
said at Harvard.
1024
01:01:10,575 --> 01:01:13,610
"A court ought not be affected
by the weather of the day,
1025
01:01:13,612 --> 01:01:15,712
but will be
by the climate of the era."
1026
01:01:15,714 --> 01:01:18,182
Okay, so we're not going back
and refighting old cases?
1027
01:01:18,184 --> 01:01:20,217
No, we're arguing
that the precedents
1028
01:01:20,219 --> 01:01:22,652
- should no longer apply.
- Right. But, Ruth,
1029
01:01:22,654 --> 01:01:24,788
Freund was talking about Brownv. the Board of Education.
1030
01:01:24,790 --> 01:01:26,557
That's a
once-in-a-generation case.
1031
01:01:26,559 --> 01:01:28,692
Yeah, and we're
the next generation.
1032
01:01:38,238 --> 01:01:40,939
"Equal Protection applies
"to all persons.
1033
01:01:40,941 --> 01:01:44,109
A class in which men and women
share full membership."
1034
01:01:44,111 --> 01:01:45,810
"A divorced man counts the same
1035
01:01:45,812 --> 01:01:47,746
- as a widower."
- You're saying that this guy
1036
01:01:47,748 --> 01:01:50,215
could have married his nurse,
got divorced the next day,
1037
01:01:50,217 --> 01:01:52,217
and then he'd be eligible
for the tax deduction?
1038
01:01:52,219 --> 01:01:53,985
That's totally nuts.
1039
01:01:53,987 --> 01:01:55,654
All right, our client is a man.
1040
01:01:55,656 --> 01:01:57,055
We cannot lose sight of that,
1041
01:01:57,057 --> 01:02:00,558
because men are also harmed
by this stereotype.
1042
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:02,961
That little boys are told
they can't be nurses,
1043
01:02:02,963 --> 01:02:05,231
they can't be teachers,
they can't be secretaries.
1044
01:02:05,233 --> 01:02:07,099
Or cook dinner
for their families.
1045
01:02:07,101 --> 01:02:09,534
Exactly.
We're counting on you, too.
1046
01:02:09,536 --> 01:02:11,871
...wholly irrational
distinction
1047
01:02:11,873 --> 01:02:15,574
between single sons
and daughters.
1048
01:02:15,576 --> 01:02:16,842
Any tax preparer may have
an invalid parent...
1049
01:02:16,844 --> 01:02:18,577
Any tax preparer
may have an ailing parent,
1050
01:02:18,579 --> 01:02:20,079
- even an unmarried man.
- ...unalterable
1051
01:02:20,081 --> 01:02:22,715
biological traits
of birth over which the...
1052
01:02:22,717 --> 01:02:24,650
The principles
of American democracy
1053
01:02:24,652 --> 01:02:25,985
should apply
to men and women equally.
1054
01:02:25,987 --> 01:02:27,988
...arbitrary
and equal treatment
1055
01:02:27,990 --> 01:02:29,356
described by the Constitution.
1056
01:02:29,358 --> 01:02:31,858
The law shouldn't
reward or penalize taxpayers
1057
01:02:31,860 --> 01:02:33,693
for their sex.
1058
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:47,074
Section 214 draws a line
1059
01:02:47,076 --> 01:02:49,611
solely on the basis of sex.
1060
01:03:02,659 --> 01:03:05,893
Professor Ginsburg,
I finished typing the brief.
1061
01:03:05,895 --> 01:03:08,898
You're a saint, Millicent.
1062
01:03:10,301 --> 01:03:12,869
May I make an observation?
1063
01:03:13,937 --> 01:03:15,170
It's just...
1064
01:03:15,172 --> 01:03:16,939
when I was typing it up,
1065
01:03:16,941 --> 01:03:19,942
jumping out
all over the brief was...
1066
01:03:19,944 --> 01:03:21,676
well...
1067
01:03:21,678 --> 01:03:22,745
sex.
1068
01:03:22,747 --> 01:03:26,215
- Sex, sex, sex, sex, sex, sex, sex.
- Oh.
1069
01:03:26,217 --> 01:03:28,684
- Oh.
- It reeks of hormones
1070
01:03:28,686 --> 01:03:30,285
and back seats, and...
1071
01:03:30,287 --> 01:03:31,989
you know how men are.
1072
01:03:33,325 --> 01:03:36,091
Maybe you should try
a less distracting word.
1073
01:03:36,093 --> 01:03:37,860
Maybe...
1074
01:03:37,862 --> 01:03:39,530
"gender."
1075
01:03:41,632 --> 01:03:43,933
You realize that means...
1076
01:03:43,935 --> 01:03:45,235
That's no problem.
1077
01:03:45,237 --> 01:03:47,270
I'm happy to type it again.
1078
01:03:47,272 --> 01:03:49,039
Thanks.
1079
01:03:49,041 --> 01:03:52,008
Guessing doesn't do us
any good... I need to know
1080
01:03:52,010 --> 01:03:54,144
how many people were
turned away from the polls.
1081
01:03:54,146 --> 01:03:57,013
Yeah, the affiliate
still hasn't sent the list.
1082
01:03:57,015 --> 01:03:58,681
Well, then call Brian Tanner.
1083
01:03:58,683 --> 01:04:00,251
Remind him that we're
on the same team.
1084
01:04:00,253 --> 01:04:02,153
Tell him if he doesn't start
acting like it, I'm gonna fly
1085
01:04:02,155 --> 01:04:04,689
to Wisconsin and personally
rip his throat out myself.
1086
01:04:05,724 --> 01:04:06,857
Melvin.
1087
01:04:06,859 --> 01:04:10,830
Didn't your mother ever
teach you to clean your room?
1088
01:04:11,998 --> 01:04:13,733
Miss Kenyon.
1089
01:04:14,901 --> 01:04:17,234
Time for your annual
dusting-off already?
1090
01:04:19,072 --> 01:04:23,140
In 1776, Abigail Adams
wrote her husband a letter.
1091
01:04:23,142 --> 01:04:26,977
"As you write this
new constitution," she said,
1092
01:04:26,979 --> 01:04:28,813
"remember the ladies."
1093
01:04:28,815 --> 01:04:31,149
You know what that bastard
went ahead and did?
1094
01:04:31,151 --> 01:04:32,718
Well, I can guess.
1095
01:04:39,927 --> 01:04:41,660
"Idaho Statesman."
1096
01:04:41,662 --> 01:04:43,128
You need a hobby.
1097
01:04:43,130 --> 01:04:45,030
These poor people.
1098
01:04:45,032 --> 01:04:48,134
Sally and Cecil Reed, divorced.
1099
01:04:48,136 --> 01:04:49,901
Their son committed suicide.
1100
01:04:49,903 --> 01:04:52,939
Both parents want
to administer his estate.
1101
01:04:52,941 --> 01:04:55,908
In Idaho, the law says,
in this situation,
1102
01:04:55,910 --> 01:04:58,144
males must be preferred
to females.
1103
01:04:58,146 --> 01:04:59,745
Why?
1104
01:04:59,747 --> 01:05:02,748
'Cause men are better at math.
1105
01:05:02,750 --> 01:05:04,750
And the Idaho Supreme Court
1106
01:05:04,752 --> 01:05:07,120
just said
that is perfectly legal.
1107
01:05:07,122 --> 01:05:09,155
Dorothy...
I've got student protestors
1108
01:05:09,157 --> 01:05:11,458
in jail in California.
I got schools in Mississippi
1109
01:05:11,460 --> 01:05:13,059
that still refuse
to desegregate. I...
1110
01:05:13,061 --> 01:05:15,362
You're a sissy.
The Board threatened to can you
1111
01:05:15,364 --> 01:05:17,164
because you stood up
for draft dodgers,
1112
01:05:17,166 --> 01:05:19,967
and you've had your tail
between your legs ever since.
1113
01:05:19,969 --> 01:05:21,468
That-that-that is not...
1114
01:05:21,470 --> 01:05:24,138
We don't have the resources
to take this on.
1115
01:05:24,140 --> 01:05:26,940
I've seen you stand up
to the might of government
1116
01:05:26,942 --> 01:05:30,177
with sling and stone
for what you know to be right.
1117
01:05:30,179 --> 01:05:32,045
And, kid, I loved you for it.
1118
01:05:32,047 --> 01:05:33,947
They're not
gonna fire you, Mel.
1119
01:05:33,949 --> 01:05:35,949
The Board's a bunch
of tired old fools.
1120
01:05:35,951 --> 01:05:37,985
They don't have the nerve
to do it.
1121
01:05:37,987 --> 01:05:41,057
I should know.
I'm one of 'em.
1122
01:05:45,128 --> 01:05:47,495
John Adams forgot the ladies.
1123
01:05:47,497 --> 01:05:51,434
And it's time the ACLU
got back in the fight.
1124
01:05:54,237 --> 01:05:56,305
- Okay.
- Good.
1125
01:05:56,307 --> 01:05:58,440
Now, here's where you start.
1126
01:05:58,442 --> 01:06:00,209
It's a case headed
to the Tenth Circuit.
1127
01:06:00,211 --> 01:06:01,743
It's a professor
out of Rutgers.
1128
01:06:01,745 --> 01:06:03,813
Smart cookie.
1129
01:06:06,150 --> 01:06:08,450
Ruth.
1130
01:06:08,452 --> 01:06:10,886
But nowhere does
the Constitution say
1131
01:06:10,888 --> 01:06:14,523
the federal government
must treat people equally.
1132
01:06:14,525 --> 01:06:18,327
What did the court say
about that, Mrs. Parker?
1133
01:06:18,329 --> 01:06:21,797
That the Due Process Clause
implies that equal protection
1134
01:06:21,799 --> 01:06:24,301
applies to the federal
government as well.
1135
01:06:24,303 --> 01:06:25,535
Can you cite the case?
1136
01:06:25,537 --> 01:06:28,405
Bolling v. Sharpe.
1137
01:06:28,407 --> 01:06:29,838
347 U.S. 497.
1138
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:31,341
Uh, decided in conjunction
1139
01:06:31,343 --> 01:06:34,377
with Brown v. Boardof Education, 1954.
1140
01:06:34,379 --> 01:06:35,845
Bolling desegregated
1141
01:06:35,847 --> 01:06:38,014
all Washington D.C.'s
public schools.
1142
01:06:38,016 --> 01:06:40,852
Chief Justice Warren,
writing for the court.
1143
01:06:41,987 --> 01:06:45,121
How about it, teach?
Do I get an "A"?
1144
01:06:47,859 --> 01:06:49,527
Well played,
sending that newspaper
1145
01:06:49,529 --> 01:06:51,431
and the brief to Kenyon.
1146
01:06:52,498 --> 01:06:54,966
I thought
she might have advice.
1147
01:06:54,968 --> 01:06:57,535
Cut the shit.
Don't ever do that to me again.
1148
01:06:57,537 --> 01:07:00,271
What do you think of the brief?
1149
01:07:00,273 --> 01:07:02,273
It's a compelling argument.
1150
01:07:02,275 --> 01:07:03,874
Brilliantly reasoned.
1151
01:07:03,876 --> 01:07:06,143
More women than ever
are working now. And why not?
1152
01:07:06,145 --> 01:07:08,413
We have preschools,
we have washing machines,
1153
01:07:08,415 --> 01:07:09,914
cheap contraceptives...
1154
01:07:09,916 --> 01:07:11,483
Yeah, times have changed.
1155
01:07:11,485 --> 01:07:13,452
There's a glaring
problem, though.
1156
01:07:13,454 --> 01:07:16,555
In the unlikely event that
you actually win this thing,
1157
01:07:16,557 --> 01:07:18,257
what's the remedy?
1158
01:07:18,259 --> 01:07:19,558
The court takes away
1159
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:21,460
the caregiver deduction
for everybody,
1160
01:07:21,462 --> 01:07:23,061
including working mothers.
1161
01:07:23,063 --> 01:07:25,063
- Then you've done more harm than good.
- No.
1162
01:07:25,065 --> 01:07:26,965
Do you remember
Justice Harlan's opinion
1163
01:07:26,967 --> 01:07:30,068
last June
in Welsh v. United States?
1164
01:07:30,070 --> 01:07:31,937
Yeah.
1165
01:07:31,939 --> 01:07:34,440
He said laws could be extended
when doing so would be closer
1166
01:07:34,442 --> 01:07:36,376
to the legislature's intent
than overturning would be.
1167
01:07:36,378 --> 01:07:38,944
Yeah, we're adding
one more section to the brief.
1168
01:07:38,946 --> 01:07:41,981
Urging the court
to extend the law
1169
01:07:41,983 --> 01:07:44,886
to include Charlie
as well as everyone else.
1170
01:07:47,188 --> 01:07:49,088
All right.
1171
01:07:49,090 --> 01:07:52,794
The ACLU is prepared to put
their name on your brief.
1172
01:07:54,062 --> 01:07:55,596
- We appreciate your support.
- Stop.
1173
01:07:55,598 --> 01:07:58,265
I still say I'd rather be
a woman in this country
1174
01:07:58,267 --> 01:07:59,999
than a black man or a...
1175
01:08:00,001 --> 01:08:03,304
socialist
or a religious minority.
1176
01:08:03,306 --> 01:08:06,507
Now, let's talk about
you taking on Reed v. Reed.
1177
01:08:06,509 --> 01:08:08,509
- Oh. Stop. No.
- Well...
1178
01:08:08,511 --> 01:08:11,345
all men in Idaho
are better at math?
1179
01:08:11,347 --> 01:08:14,014
Ruth, I gave you one case.
That's all you get.
1180
01:08:14,016 --> 01:08:17,084
The Moritz argument works just
as well for a female client.
1181
01:08:17,086 --> 01:08:20,522
And Reed's
a state supreme court case,
1182
01:08:20,524 --> 01:08:22,557
which means
the U.S. Supreme Court
1183
01:08:22,559 --> 01:08:24,225
- must hear the appeal.
- I-I told you,
1184
01:08:24,227 --> 01:08:26,028
I don't want
another 50-year battle.
1185
01:08:27,097 --> 01:08:29,230
Call Sally Reed's lawyer, Mel.
1186
01:08:29,232 --> 01:08:31,633
If I were you, I would worry
about my own case.
1187
01:08:31,635 --> 01:08:33,501
And I expect to see
your remedy arguments
1188
01:08:33,503 --> 01:08:35,136
before they go
to the Tenth Circuit.
1189
01:08:35,138 --> 01:08:37,172
And I want to be there
when you practice
1190
01:08:37,174 --> 01:08:38,373
your oral arguments.
1191
01:08:38,375 --> 01:08:40,310
We're doing a moot court.
1192
01:08:41,378 --> 01:08:42,445
No.
1193
01:08:42,447 --> 01:08:45,113
It's not negotiable.
1194
01:08:45,115 --> 01:08:46,147
When?
1195
01:08:46,149 --> 01:08:50,119
Soon as we get the
government's response brief.
1196
01:08:50,121 --> 01:08:53,956
Where did these people
go to law school?
1197
01:08:53,958 --> 01:08:55,991
You can't make
a constitutional challenge
1198
01:08:55,993 --> 01:08:57,693
to the tax laws, can you?
1199
01:08:57,695 --> 01:08:59,462
And who's ever heard
of gender discrimination?
1200
01:08:59,464 --> 01:09:01,030
It's a stretch.
1201
01:09:01,032 --> 01:09:03,232
These folks are running at hell
with a bucket of water.
1202
01:09:03,234 --> 01:09:05,101
Case law is filled
with challenges
1203
01:09:05,103 --> 01:09:08,705
that could not be made...
till they were.
1204
01:09:08,707 --> 01:09:11,441
I'm putting Murphy
on writing our response brief.
1205
01:09:11,443 --> 01:09:14,444
- With due respect, Mr. Brown...
- Not personal, Bozarth.
1206
01:09:14,446 --> 01:09:17,547
But if we're not careful,
this appeal could cast a...
1207
01:09:17,549 --> 01:09:20,684
cloud of unconstitutionality
over every federal law
1208
01:09:20,686 --> 01:09:23,019
that differentiates
between men and women.
1209
01:09:23,021 --> 01:09:27,290
I need someone
more seasoned on this.
1210
01:09:27,292 --> 01:09:30,193
Could you get me
the solicitor general, please?
1211
01:09:30,195 --> 01:09:32,597
I pulled the file.
I deserve the chance.
1212
01:09:32,599 --> 01:09:34,265
Murphy's a weak sister.
1213
01:09:34,267 --> 01:09:36,667
I know how to win
this case, sir.
1214
01:09:36,669 --> 01:09:39,305
Better than Murphy.
Better than anyone.
1215
01:09:40,407 --> 01:09:42,573
You need me on this appeal.
1216
01:09:42,575 --> 01:09:45,009
This is Brown.
1217
01:09:45,011 --> 01:09:47,180
I need to see him.
1218
01:09:49,683 --> 01:09:51,449
Okay.
1219
01:09:51,451 --> 01:09:53,317
Tell me.
1220
01:09:53,319 --> 01:09:55,319
Gender equality
as a civil right?
1221
01:09:55,321 --> 01:09:57,723
When everyone's aggrieved
and everyone's a victim.
1222
01:09:57,725 --> 01:10:00,325
It's what the ACLU does:
divide the country
1223
01:10:00,327 --> 01:10:03,328
into smaller and smaller
subgroups.
1224
01:10:03,330 --> 01:10:06,064
- Ginsburg. Cancer, right?
- Mm-hmm.
1225
01:10:06,066 --> 01:10:09,336
- And the wife, very demanding.
- But smart.
1226
01:10:10,471 --> 01:10:12,104
Ten years.
1227
01:10:12,106 --> 01:10:16,308
Ten years I fought to enroll
women at Harvard Law.
1228
01:10:16,310 --> 01:10:19,612
The faculty, the university,
my wife warned me against it.
1229
01:10:19,614 --> 01:10:23,483
Now I'm solicitor general,
it comes back to haunt me.
1230
01:10:23,485 --> 01:10:26,252
Erwin, we could settle.
1231
01:10:26,254 --> 01:10:28,455
Martin Ginsburg was
one of my best students,
1232
01:10:28,457 --> 01:10:31,357
a practical young man...
we can call him, tell him
1233
01:10:31,359 --> 01:10:34,427
we'll give the man his money
and go our separate ways.
1234
01:10:34,429 --> 01:10:36,029
No. No.
1235
01:10:36,031 --> 01:10:38,465
We settle now,
it's open season.
1236
01:10:38,467 --> 01:10:41,502
Let's put this idea
of gender discrimination to bed
1237
01:10:41,504 --> 01:10:43,102
once and for all.
1238
01:10:43,104 --> 01:10:45,372
They handed us a winnable case.
1239
01:10:45,374 --> 01:10:47,575
Then we'll win it.
1240
01:10:47,577 --> 01:10:49,777
You think he's up to it?
1241
01:10:49,779 --> 01:10:52,313
Oh, Mr. Bozarth
is a fine litigator.
1242
01:10:52,315 --> 01:10:54,114
Tell him your idea.
1243
01:10:54,116 --> 01:10:56,183
We list the laws.
1244
01:10:56,185 --> 01:10:57,551
What laws?
1245
01:10:57,553 --> 01:11:00,187
All of them.
1246
01:11:00,189 --> 01:11:02,189
Every federal law that treats
men and women differently.
1247
01:11:02,191 --> 01:11:04,593
We show the court exactly
what kind of can of worms
1248
01:11:04,595 --> 01:11:05,794
these folks are trying to open.
1249
01:11:05,796 --> 01:11:08,663
But, son,
the last anyone checked,
1250
01:11:08,665 --> 01:11:11,700
the U.S. Code
was 20,000 pages long.
1251
01:11:11,702 --> 01:11:13,535
Who's going to read it? You?
1252
01:11:13,537 --> 01:11:15,704
I can get it done, sir.
1253
01:11:15,706 --> 01:11:17,672
I just need an introduction.
1254
01:11:17,674 --> 01:11:19,674
To whom?
1255
01:11:19,676 --> 01:11:21,478
The Secretary of Defense.
1256
01:11:44,435 --> 01:11:47,671
These computers will
find what we're looking for?
1257
01:11:47,673 --> 01:11:48,839
Yes, sir.
1258
01:11:48,841 --> 01:11:50,373
In just a few days.
1259
01:11:50,375 --> 01:11:52,576
Without any human beings
1260
01:11:52,578 --> 01:11:54,178
actually reading the laws.
1261
01:11:57,583 --> 01:12:00,584
What a horrifying age.
1262
01:12:03,389 --> 01:12:04,855
Ruth Bader Ginsburg?
1263
01:12:04,857 --> 01:12:07,190
Delivery from
the Department of Justice.
1264
01:12:07,192 --> 01:12:08,893
Oh.
1265
01:12:08,895 --> 01:12:11,328
Can someone pass me
Title XXXIII?
1266
01:12:11,330 --> 01:12:13,898
Get this. There's a law
that we're not allowed
1267
01:12:13,900 --> 01:12:16,801
to fly military cargo planes.
1268
01:12:16,803 --> 01:12:18,803
It says here
that we're not allowed
1269
01:12:18,805 --> 01:12:21,306
- to work in mines.
- Why would you want to?
1270
01:12:21,308 --> 01:12:23,675
Well, that's not the point.
We should be allowed.
1271
01:12:23,677 --> 01:12:26,177
You really think you
can change all those laws?
1272
01:12:26,179 --> 01:12:28,179
- Kiki?
- That's the plan.
1273
01:12:28,181 --> 01:12:29,681
Curtain's up in 45 minutes.
1274
01:12:29,683 --> 01:12:31,215
Might be a novel experience
1275
01:12:31,217 --> 01:12:33,217
to get there before it starts
for a change.
1276
01:12:33,219 --> 01:12:36,922
Please tell me
that you are... dressed.
1277
01:12:36,924 --> 01:12:38,924
Hi. What are you doing?
1278
01:12:38,926 --> 01:12:41,627
Government's brief came.
1279
01:12:41,629 --> 01:12:44,765
And look who else is on it.
1280
01:12:47,368 --> 01:12:50,936
I knew Griswold was trying
to get Brown over to the DOJ.
1281
01:12:50,938 --> 01:12:52,771
Looks like that worked.
1282
01:12:52,773 --> 01:12:55,374
- How's it look?
- Check out Appendix E.
1283
01:12:55,376 --> 01:12:57,610
It's every federal law
1284
01:12:57,612 --> 01:12:59,445
that discriminates
on the basis of sex.
1285
01:12:59,447 --> 01:13:02,516
We're looking them all up.
There must be hundreds.
1286
01:13:04,352 --> 01:13:08,388
- Good God.
- Hmm.
1287
01:13:08,390 --> 01:13:11,191
Well, you're convinced
Daugherty will see it our way.
1288
01:13:11,193 --> 01:13:14,494
Well, based on reading
all of his opinions, yes.
1289
01:13:14,496 --> 01:13:17,263
And so will Holloway.
1290
01:13:17,265 --> 01:13:19,532
But the final judge...
1291
01:13:19,534 --> 01:13:21,267
Doyle...
1292
01:13:21,269 --> 01:13:23,570
well, he's going to be
a tougher nut to crack.
1293
01:13:23,572 --> 01:13:26,807
- That's unacceptable.
- We need a unanimous decision
1294
01:13:26,809 --> 01:13:28,341
out of the Tenth Circuit,
James.
1295
01:13:28,343 --> 01:13:31,211
We don't want so-called
gender discrimination
1296
01:13:31,213 --> 01:13:32,947
finding its way
to the Supreme Court.
1297
01:13:32,949 --> 01:13:34,415
Yes, sir, I understand that.
1298
01:13:34,417 --> 01:13:36,250
What-what makes this judge
so difficult?
1299
01:13:36,252 --> 01:13:38,786
Well, ma'am,
he's a civil rights crusader.
1300
01:13:38,788 --> 01:13:40,521
Two years ago,
he ordered Denver
1301
01:13:40,523 --> 01:13:43,959
to start busing black students
to white schools.
1302
01:13:43,961 --> 01:13:46,293
There were protests, arson,
1303
01:13:46,295 --> 01:13:47,696
demands for him
to quit the bench.
1304
01:13:47,698 --> 01:13:50,331
But even after someone threw
a bomb at his house,
1305
01:13:50,333 --> 01:13:51,967
Doyle wouldn't budge.
1306
01:13:51,969 --> 01:13:54,536
In that case,
he was enforcing the law.
1307
01:13:54,538 --> 01:13:57,439
The Ginsburgs
are asking him to make law.
1308
01:13:57,441 --> 01:13:59,574
We need to drive home
the difference.
1309
01:13:59,576 --> 01:14:03,779
Paint the judges a picture
of the America that will exist
1310
01:14:03,781 --> 01:14:05,614
if they rule the wrong way.
1311
01:14:05,616 --> 01:14:09,986
Children running home from
school to find no one's there.
1312
01:14:09,988 --> 01:14:12,989
Mommy's at the office
or on a factory floor.
1313
01:14:12,991 --> 01:14:15,591
Man and woman vie
for the same job,
1314
01:14:15,593 --> 01:14:17,292
she can work for less.
1315
01:14:17,294 --> 01:14:19,294
What is a man
without a paycheck
1316
01:14:19,296 --> 01:14:21,297
to take care of his family?
1317
01:14:21,299 --> 01:14:23,332
What woman would want him?
1318
01:14:23,334 --> 01:14:24,634
Wages would go down.
1319
01:14:24,636 --> 01:14:26,335
Divorce rates would soar.
1320
01:14:26,337 --> 01:14:29,405
The very fabric of our society
would begin to unravel.
1321
01:14:29,407 --> 01:14:31,407
Exactly. The other side
wants this to be
1322
01:14:31,409 --> 01:14:33,777
about the Equal Protection
principle.
1323
01:14:33,779 --> 01:14:35,578
The judges are deciding
1324
01:14:35,580 --> 01:14:37,748
what kind of country,
what kind of society
1325
01:14:37,750 --> 01:14:40,450
they want their children and
grandchildren to grow up in.
1326
01:14:40,452 --> 01:14:43,420
You make sure the court sees
1327
01:14:43,422 --> 01:14:47,691
what's at stake
is the American family.
1328
01:14:47,693 --> 01:14:49,359
Whoa!
1329
01:14:49,361 --> 01:14:51,662
Cool!
1330
01:14:53,532 --> 01:14:54,531
Uh, Mom?
1331
01:14:54,533 --> 01:14:57,334
- Can I be on the jury?
- No, there is no jury
1332
01:14:57,336 --> 01:15:00,370
in federal appeals court,
no witnesses, no evidence.
1333
01:15:00,372 --> 01:15:02,475
Just you and the judges.
1334
01:15:03,543 --> 01:15:04,809
- Gerry!
- Hello.
1335
01:15:04,811 --> 01:15:06,544
- Hello.
- How are you?
1336
01:15:06,546 --> 01:15:08,546
- You remember Jane.
- Hi.
1337
01:15:08,548 --> 01:15:11,850
Jane, my old professor,
Gerald Gunther.
1338
01:15:11,852 --> 01:15:13,885
Come on in.
1339
01:15:13,887 --> 01:15:16,023
Look at you. All grown up.
1340
01:15:18,059 --> 01:15:20,558
- Hello, James.
- Hi.
1341
01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:22,393
- What do you think of our courtroom?
- Huh.
1342
01:15:22,395 --> 01:15:25,798
Well, all that's missing
is Justice holding her scales.
1343
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:29,502
So, who did Mel find
to be the third judge?
1344
01:15:29,504 --> 01:15:32,705
- Pauli Murray.
- So he's not making it easy for you, huh?
1345
01:15:32,707 --> 01:15:35,007
- Who's Pauli Murray?
- Thurgood Marshall himself
1346
01:15:35,009 --> 01:15:36,509
called Pauli's writings
1347
01:15:36,511 --> 01:15:38,511
the "Bible of
the civil rights movement."
1348
01:15:38,513 --> 01:15:40,913
Gerry.
I come bearing your gavel.
1349
01:15:44,920 --> 01:15:48,722
Counsel for
the appellant, you may proceed.
1350
01:15:48,724 --> 01:15:51,423
Again.
1351
01:15:51,425 --> 01:15:54,360
Your Honors,
and may it please the court.
1352
01:15:54,362 --> 01:15:56,563
Section 214 of the tax code
1353
01:15:56,565 --> 01:16:00,567
covers employed single women
who care for their dependents,
1354
01:16:00,569 --> 01:16:02,569
but excludes Charles Moritz,
1355
01:16:02,571 --> 01:16:05,438
a-a bachelor,
providing the same care.
1356
01:16:05,440 --> 01:16:08,508
My wife stays home
to raise our children.
1357
01:16:08,510 --> 01:16:10,510
Are you saying she's oppressed?
1358
01:16:10,512 --> 01:16:13,413
- No, Judge, but as a man, you may not...
- No, no, no.
1359
01:16:13,415 --> 01:16:15,583
Stop, stop. Stop.
Never make it about the judge.
1360
01:16:15,585 --> 01:16:18,452
You don't think
the judge knows he's a man?
1361
01:16:18,454 --> 01:16:19,687
No, I don't want her to put him
on the defensive
1362
01:16:19,689 --> 01:16:21,889
- about it, though.
- In Brown, we put it out there
1363
01:16:21,891 --> 01:16:23,724
without apology: this is wrong.
1364
01:16:23,726 --> 01:16:26,561
Yeah, no offense,
but Ruth doesn't exactly have
1365
01:16:26,563 --> 01:16:28,696
Thurgood Marshall's, uh...
1366
01:16:28,698 --> 01:16:30,565
Balls?
1367
01:16:30,567 --> 01:16:33,634
- Gravitas.
- Should I... should I start again?
1368
01:16:33,636 --> 01:16:35,503
Unless you think
you won the case already.
1369
01:16:35,505 --> 01:16:38,406
Whenever you're ready.
1370
01:16:38,408 --> 01:16:39,908
Uh, Your Honors,
and may it please the court.
1371
01:16:39,910 --> 01:16:41,476
Section 214 of the tax code
1372
01:16:41,478 --> 01:16:42,911
covers employed single women
1373
01:16:42,913 --> 01:16:44,613
who care for their dependents,
1374
01:16:44,615 --> 01:16:46,615
but excludes Charles Moritz,
1375
01:16:46,617 --> 01:16:48,750
a bachelor,
providing the same care.
1376
01:16:48,752 --> 01:16:51,587
There is no rational basis,
because this...
1377
01:16:51,589 --> 01:16:53,488
Wh-Why is it not rational?
1378
01:16:53,490 --> 01:16:55,557
Men go out; women stay home.
1379
01:16:55,559 --> 01:16:57,994
It's been the way of things
for thousands of years.
1380
01:16:57,996 --> 01:17:01,097
H-Historical justification
was also used to legitimize
1381
01:17:01,099 --> 01:17:03,432
the separation of the races.
1382
01:17:03,434 --> 01:17:05,468
- Now, classification...
- Are you saying
1383
01:17:05,470 --> 01:17:07,604
race and gender are the same?
1384
01:17:09,174 --> 01:17:10,840
W-Well...
1385
01:17:10,842 --> 01:17:12,475
both are...
1386
01:17:12,477 --> 01:17:14,777
unalterable biological traits.
1387
01:17:14,779 --> 01:17:17,480
This nation struggles
to give blacks
1388
01:17:17,482 --> 01:17:19,449
fair representation
throughout society.
1389
01:17:19,451 --> 01:17:21,484
- Can you pass that?
- And you're saying that,
1390
01:17:21,486 --> 01:17:23,653
if we decide
in your client's favor,
1391
01:17:23,655 --> 01:17:26,590
we're committing ourselves
to moving towards half
1392
01:17:26,592 --> 01:17:28,893
of our, I don't know,
firemen being women,
1393
01:17:28,895 --> 01:17:30,828
half our nurses being men?
1394
01:17:30,830 --> 01:17:33,564
But why shouldn't men
be nurses? And if-if women want
1395
01:17:33,566 --> 01:17:35,032
- to fight fires, then...
- What about pilots?
1396
01:17:35,034 --> 01:17:37,801
Yeah, again, if women choose
to take on these roles...
1397
01:17:37,803 --> 01:17:39,037
- Judges?
- Why not?
1398
01:17:39,039 --> 01:17:40,638
CEOs? Generals?
1399
01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:41,907
What about garbagemen?
You want to be a garbageman?
1400
01:17:41,909 --> 01:17:44,776
Well, and if-if men want to be
teachers or raise children...
1401
01:17:44,778 --> 01:17:47,078
- Oh, come on.
- Percentages aren't the point.
1402
01:17:47,080 --> 01:17:49,180
- Wrong.
- People should be able to pursue their passions.
1403
01:17:49,182 --> 01:17:50,749
Wrong, wrong.
You're screwing it up, Ruth!
1404
01:17:50,751 --> 01:17:52,617
Have you...
have you read the appendix
1405
01:17:52,619 --> 01:17:54,185
- attached to their brief?
- You're making the wrong case.
1406
01:17:54,187 --> 01:17:57,222
These are laws written by men
who think we are privileged
1407
01:17:57,224 --> 01:17:59,724
to be excused
from men's obligations.
1408
01:17:59,726 --> 01:18:01,893
But it is not a privilege,
it is a cage,
1409
01:18:01,895 --> 01:18:04,531
and these laws are the bars!
1410
01:18:11,105 --> 01:18:12,905
So, that's it?
1411
01:18:12,907 --> 01:18:16,177
You're gonna take them all on
at the same time?
1412
01:18:21,249 --> 01:18:23,149
You asked the questions.
1413
01:18:23,151 --> 01:18:25,751
Well, it doesn't mean you have
to fucking answer them, Ruth.
1414
01:18:25,753 --> 01:18:28,088
You're making
the government's case for them.
1415
01:18:28,090 --> 01:18:31,724
Look, you either make this case
about one man, or you lose.
1416
01:18:31,726 --> 01:18:33,260
'Cause to the judges,
you're not talking
1417
01:18:33,262 --> 01:18:34,761
about women in the abstract.
1418
01:18:34,763 --> 01:18:36,763
You're talking
about their wives,
1419
01:18:36,765 --> 01:18:39,866
at home, you know,
baking briskets.
1420
01:18:39,868 --> 01:18:41,737
You braise a brisket.
You don't bake it.
1421
01:18:42,805 --> 01:18:45,138
- Perhaps that's enough, Mel.
- No.
1422
01:18:45,140 --> 01:18:47,476
I don't think it is, Gerry.
1423
01:18:48,877 --> 01:18:51,945
Look, when you were a kid,
you were pretty
1424
01:18:51,947 --> 01:18:54,182
and you were smart as a whip,
but you're coming across
1425
01:18:54,184 --> 01:18:56,951
as this bitter, unlikable shrew
that I don't even recognize.
1426
01:18:56,953 --> 01:19:00,121
And if that's who shows up
in Denver, you will blow it.
1427
01:19:00,123 --> 01:19:02,759
And would it kill you to smile?
1428
01:19:03,727 --> 01:19:06,160
That's your advice? Just...
1429
01:19:06,162 --> 01:19:09,630
ignore the judges and smile?
1430
01:19:09,632 --> 01:19:12,569
Pâté is the best
I've ever tasted.
1431
01:19:15,339 --> 01:19:17,039
You could evade.
1432
01:19:17,041 --> 01:19:18,606
Should women be firefighters?
1433
01:19:18,608 --> 01:19:19,640
"With all due respect,
Your Honor,
1434
01:19:19,642 --> 01:19:20,976
"I haven't considered it,
1435
01:19:20,978 --> 01:19:22,277
because my client
isn't a firefighter."
1436
01:19:22,279 --> 01:19:24,179
Or you can redirect.
1437
01:19:24,181 --> 01:19:27,249
"With respect, Judge, this case
is not about firefighters.
1438
01:19:27,251 --> 01:19:28,951
"It's about taxpayers,
and there's nothing
1439
01:19:28,953 --> 01:19:31,987
inherently masculine
about paying taxes."
1440
01:19:31,989 --> 01:19:35,124
Or crack a joke. "Your Honor,
anyone who's raised a child
1441
01:19:35,126 --> 01:19:36,292
"couldn't possibly
be intimidated
1442
01:19:36,294 --> 01:19:37,993
by a burning building."
1443
01:19:37,995 --> 01:19:40,030
And then bring them back to your case.
1444
01:19:40,032 --> 01:19:42,300
Marty, you should do
the oral arguments.
1445
01:19:43,335 --> 01:19:44,700
No, no, no.
1446
01:19:44,702 --> 01:19:46,336
Ruth is the expert
on gender law.
1447
01:19:46,338 --> 01:19:48,004
At least half this case is tax.
1448
01:19:48,006 --> 01:19:51,007
Uh, the most important thing
is that Charles Moritz wins.
1449
01:19:51,009 --> 01:19:52,944
I said no, Mel. Drop it.
1450
01:19:55,614 --> 01:19:57,847
They could split the time.
1451
01:19:57,849 --> 01:19:59,216
Martin goes first,
1452
01:19:59,218 --> 01:20:01,017
focuses the argument on tax.
1453
01:20:01,019 --> 01:20:03,955
Then Ruth steps in,
talks about gender.
1454
01:20:09,328 --> 01:20:11,662
- Pauli, here you go.
- Thank you.
1455
01:20:11,664 --> 01:20:13,330
- Gerry, this is yours.
- Mel. Mel.
1456
01:20:13,332 --> 01:20:15,332
There is no aspect of the law
1457
01:20:15,334 --> 01:20:17,101
at which Ruth Ginsburg
can be bested.
1458
01:20:17,103 --> 01:20:19,703
I don't know how things work
at the ACLU, but if anyone
1459
01:20:19,705 --> 01:20:22,073
at my firm couldn't see that,
they would be fired.
1460
01:20:22,075 --> 01:20:23,375
Objection noted, counselor.
1461
01:20:23,377 --> 01:20:25,676
- She's still arguing half.
- This is her...
1462
01:20:25,678 --> 01:20:26,977
Listen, she's written
a revolutionary argument,
1463
01:20:26,979 --> 01:20:30,182
but brief writing is
an academic's job. Okay?
1464
01:20:30,184 --> 01:20:31,950
Oral arguments require a lawyer
1465
01:20:31,952 --> 01:20:34,219
who can command
a judge's respect.
1466
01:20:34,221 --> 01:20:36,154
A real appellate lawyer.
1467
01:20:37,724 --> 01:20:39,157
Oh, what a team
you're gonna be.
1468
01:20:39,159 --> 01:20:40,425
It was a good experience.
1469
01:20:40,427 --> 01:20:42,260
I think that was
a very productive exercise.
1470
01:20:42,262 --> 01:20:43,862
I have to go to a fund-raiser.
1471
01:20:43,864 --> 01:20:46,098
Pauli, Gerry, you want
to split a cab downtown?
1472
01:20:46,100 --> 01:20:47,601
- Sure.
- Sure.
1473
01:20:49,970 --> 01:20:52,171
- Good team, huh?
- It's good to see you, Gerry.
1474
01:20:52,173 --> 01:20:53,372
Thank you for coming.
1475
01:20:53,374 --> 01:20:55,742
- Bye-bye. - Bye.
- Bye. Great to see you.
1476
01:21:02,117 --> 01:21:03,918
Bye.
1477
01:21:11,693 --> 01:21:13,759
You have such a light touch.
1478
01:21:13,761 --> 01:21:16,762
It... it's just
effortless for you,
1479
01:21:16,764 --> 01:21:20,167
- isn't it?
- Uh... Mel was goading you.
1480
01:21:20,169 --> 01:21:22,369
He was trying to make you
feel overwhelmed. That's...
1481
01:21:22,371 --> 01:21:25,305
Of course he was.
He's a relentless prick.
1482
01:21:25,307 --> 01:21:27,074
But it doesn't change the fact
1483
01:21:27,076 --> 01:21:28,842
- that I'm not ready.
- It's not your fault.
1484
01:21:28,844 --> 01:21:30,244
- You've never done this before.
- Well, is that what
1485
01:21:30,246 --> 01:21:32,915
I'm supposed to tell Charlie
when I blow it in court?
1486
01:21:37,086 --> 01:21:40,221
Do you want Theories in PublicTaxation with you in Denver?
1487
01:21:40,223 --> 01:21:43,424
Who needs a tax reference
when you have Marty?
1488
01:21:43,426 --> 01:21:45,393
Did you pack the, uh...
1489
01:21:45,395 --> 01:21:47,095
the Kirk v. Commission brief?
1490
01:21:47,097 --> 01:21:48,363
Yes.
1491
01:21:48,365 --> 01:21:50,365
Rutgers Law.
1492
01:21:50,367 --> 01:21:52,836
It's Mel Wulf for you.
1493
01:21:54,004 --> 01:21:55,471
Just tell him I'm not here.
1494
01:21:55,473 --> 01:21:58,206
I'm sorry, Mr....
1495
01:21:58,208 --> 01:22:00,444
He says it's urgent.
1496
01:22:09,353 --> 01:22:11,820
- Yeah.
- What was so important?
1497
01:22:11,822 --> 01:22:13,355
I'm excited to work with you.
1498
01:22:13,357 --> 01:22:14,757
Ah-ah. Shh, shh. Ah-ah. No.
1499
01:22:14,759 --> 01:22:16,060
I understand.
1500
01:22:17,128 --> 01:22:19,295
She just walked in.
1501
01:22:19,297 --> 01:22:21,032
And to you, too.
1502
01:22:22,367 --> 01:22:23,500
Okay.
1503
01:22:23,502 --> 01:22:25,968
Ruth Ginsburg, Allen Derr.
1504
01:22:25,970 --> 01:22:27,803
How do you do?
1505
01:22:27,805 --> 01:22:29,105
The Supreme Court just
announced they're gonna hear
1506
01:22:29,107 --> 01:22:31,843
Reed v. Reed on appeal
from the Idaho Supreme Court.
1507
01:22:32,978 --> 01:22:35,045
- That's fantastic.
- Mrs. Reed is
1508
01:22:35,047 --> 01:22:36,880
very excited
for the opportunity.
1509
01:22:36,882 --> 01:22:38,882
Uh, Allen's
Sally Reed's lawyer.
1510
01:22:38,884 --> 01:22:42,319
So... is the ACLU gonna help?
1511
01:22:42,321 --> 01:22:44,187
Mm, you told me it was
the right thing to do, right?
1512
01:22:44,189 --> 01:22:45,922
Mel says that
no one knows this area
1513
01:22:45,924 --> 01:22:46,990
of the law better than you.
1514
01:22:46,992 --> 01:22:49,227
You're our secret weapon, Ruth.
1515
01:22:49,229 --> 01:22:50,860
So...
1516
01:22:50,862 --> 01:22:54,766
y-you want me...
in the Supreme Court?
1517
01:22:55,468 --> 01:22:58,336
I, uh... uh...
1518
01:22:58,338 --> 01:23:01,908
I-I told Allen you'd be eager
to help him write his brief.
1519
01:23:05,278 --> 01:23:07,144
Oh.
1520
01:23:07,146 --> 01:23:08,279
Well... basically,
1521
01:23:08,281 --> 01:23:10,815
take the Moritz brief
and swap around the pronouns.
1522
01:23:10,817 --> 01:23:12,284
- Isn't that right?
- Well, it's a...
1523
01:23:12,286 --> 01:23:13,884
little more involved than that.
1524
01:23:13,886 --> 01:23:15,153
Joking.
1525
01:23:15,155 --> 01:23:17,055
All right,
let's start right away.
1526
01:23:17,057 --> 01:23:19,224
Allen, uh, enjoy the city.
You should catch a show
1527
01:23:19,226 --> 01:23:22,160
- while you're here.
- Oh, well, thank you.
1528
01:23:22,162 --> 01:23:24,031
- Yeah.
- Yeah.
1529
01:23:25,165 --> 01:23:26,465
Oh, uh, Kiki and I have
1530
01:23:26,467 --> 01:23:28,166
some stuff to discuss.
1531
01:23:28,168 --> 01:23:30,603
Yes, of course.
I'll-I'll get out of your way.
1532
01:23:30,605 --> 01:23:33,138
Uh, it was a pleasure
meeting you, Ruth.
1533
01:23:33,140 --> 01:23:34,340
Or Kiki.
1534
01:23:34,342 --> 01:23:36,043
Uh... Mel.
1535
01:23:37,178 --> 01:23:39,479
- Oh. Um, I...
- Ah. Don't forget that.
1536
01:23:39,481 --> 01:23:41,849
Mustn't forget that, yeah.
1537
01:23:43,618 --> 01:23:44,851
What a schmuck.
1538
01:23:44,853 --> 01:23:46,853
Let me argue Reed in court.
1539
01:23:46,855 --> 01:23:48,855
- Oh, give me a break.
- I have no less experience
1540
01:23:48,857 --> 01:23:50,256
than Allen Derr
in federal court.
1541
01:23:50,258 --> 01:23:52,025
- You have zero experience.
- If you're gonna use
1542
01:23:52,027 --> 01:23:53,627
- my arguments...
- He's been Sally Reed's lawyer
1543
01:23:53,629 --> 01:23:55,429
for three years;
she trusts him.
1544
01:23:55,431 --> 01:23:58,064
She wouldn't even let me argue
the case. Now, listen to me
1545
01:23:58,066 --> 01:24:00,534
for a second... we have
someone else to discuss.
1546
01:24:00,536 --> 01:24:02,069
Ernie Brown called
this morning.
1547
01:24:02,071 --> 01:24:04,071
In light of Reed going
to the Supreme Court,
1548
01:24:04,073 --> 01:24:06,640
the government wants to settle
the Moritz case for a dollar.
1549
01:24:06,642 --> 01:24:09,076
Reed ups the profile
of our case.
1550
01:24:09,078 --> 01:24:10,577
Th-They're getting nervous.
1551
01:24:10,579 --> 01:24:14,016
I told them you'd be in D.C. on
Monday to sign the paperwork.
1552
01:24:15,885 --> 01:24:18,052
Why would you say that?
1553
01:24:18,054 --> 01:24:19,554
Charlie won't want to settle.
1554
01:24:19,556 --> 01:24:21,088
Well, convince him.
1555
01:24:21,090 --> 01:24:23,325
I will not.
1556
01:24:23,327 --> 01:24:26,561
First, you took half
the argument away from me...
1557
01:24:26,563 --> 01:24:29,631
Nobody took anything away
from you, Ruth.
1558
01:24:29,633 --> 01:24:31,099
You weren't robbed
in the middle of the night.
1559
01:24:31,101 --> 01:24:32,334
All right? I was giving you
this opportunity
1560
01:24:32,336 --> 01:24:35,170
- for the good of the cause.
- You think you gave this to me?
1561
01:24:35,172 --> 01:24:38,039
In fact, I did.
And get your emotions in check.
1562
01:24:38,041 --> 01:24:39,843
You first.
1563
01:24:40,578 --> 01:24:42,077
Allen is gonna be arguing
1564
01:24:42,079 --> 01:24:45,080
in the Supreme Court
that times have changed.
1565
01:24:45,082 --> 01:24:46,549
We can't afford
the Tenth Circuit
1566
01:24:46,551 --> 01:24:48,016
saying that they haven't.
1567
01:24:48,018 --> 01:24:49,918
Nothing would strengthen
the argument more
1568
01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:52,221
- than the appeals court deciding for Charlie.
- Yes,
1569
01:24:52,223 --> 01:24:54,123
that would be very nice,
but here in the real world,
1570
01:24:54,125 --> 01:24:56,092
- with working lawyers...
- You think I can't be persuasive?
1571
01:24:56,094 --> 01:24:57,259
Oh, I've never been
more certain
1572
01:24:57,261 --> 01:24:59,528
about anything
in my life, Ruth.
1573
01:24:59,530 --> 01:25:01,397
You don't get to tell me
when to quit.
1574
01:25:01,399 --> 01:25:03,366
You couldn't even make it
through moot court
1575
01:25:03,368 --> 01:25:04,902
without embarrassing yourself.
1576
01:25:06,003 --> 01:25:09,138
You will lose, Ruth.
And when you do,
1577
01:25:09,140 --> 01:25:11,140
you will set the women's
movement back ten years. More.
1578
01:25:11,142 --> 01:25:13,610
We are dodging a bullet here.
1579
01:25:13,612 --> 01:25:17,182
Are you the only one
that can't see that?
1580
01:25:28,394 --> 01:25:30,961
These are Allen's briefs
from the previous appeals.
1581
01:25:30,963 --> 01:25:33,731
Tie them into the framework
of the Moritz brief.
1582
01:25:33,733 --> 01:25:35,934
I'll review it
when you're done.
1583
01:25:38,505 --> 01:25:41,141
It's a Supreme Court brief.
1584
01:25:42,509 --> 01:25:45,912
I can assign it to someone else
if that's what you'd prefer.
1585
01:25:59,760 --> 01:26:01,460
Oh, and-and, Ruth.
1586
01:26:01,462 --> 01:26:05,032
Uh, the sooner
you call Charlie, the better.
1587
01:26:16,076 --> 01:26:18,545
I had this idea.
1588
01:26:18,547 --> 01:26:19,746
What's that?
1589
01:26:19,748 --> 01:26:22,114
Well, it doesn't matter now.
1590
01:26:22,116 --> 01:26:24,152
Tell me.
1591
01:26:25,620 --> 01:26:28,655
We could have taken Appendix E
from the government's brief,
1592
01:26:28,657 --> 01:26:32,358
that entire comprehensive
list of laws
1593
01:26:32,360 --> 01:26:35,228
that differentiates
between the sexes, and...
1594
01:26:35,230 --> 01:26:37,731
and turn it
into our own hit list.
1595
01:26:37,733 --> 01:26:40,133
We could have started
a special project
1596
01:26:40,135 --> 01:26:42,703
at the ACLU to go after
those laws one by one,
1597
01:26:42,705 --> 01:26:44,438
in the legislature,
in the courts,
1598
01:26:44,440 --> 01:26:48,311
until women and men were
genuinely equal under the law.
1599
01:26:51,180 --> 01:26:54,183
And I've been running around
claiming things have changed.
1600
01:27:37,729 --> 01:27:40,164
Daddy told me about the case.
1601
01:27:43,268 --> 01:27:46,371
Why is Mel Wulf being
such a dick?
1602
01:27:49,107 --> 01:27:50,874
He thinks I'm gonna lose.
1603
01:27:50,876 --> 01:27:53,311
No way, Jose.
Not in my experience.
1604
01:28:01,587 --> 01:28:05,188
As Mr. Moritz's lawyer, I'm...
1605
01:28:05,190 --> 01:28:08,394
I'm ethically bound
to convey him the offer.
1606
01:28:11,597 --> 01:28:16,901
So would you like help taking
apart your life's work, or...
1607
01:28:16,903 --> 01:28:20,473
is that something
you'd rather do by yourself?
1608
01:28:21,808 --> 01:28:23,341
I...
1609
01:28:23,343 --> 01:28:26,346
I know that this case, that...
1610
01:28:30,650 --> 01:28:33,284
...that I disrupted our lives,
1611
01:28:33,286 --> 01:28:35,221
and...
1612
01:28:37,223 --> 01:28:39,223
I'm sorry.
1613
01:28:39,225 --> 01:28:43,096
Sorry for what?
For-for doing your job?
1614
01:28:47,902 --> 01:28:50,736
Who is it for...
1615
01:28:50,738 --> 01:28:53,107
if not for me?
1616
01:28:58,346 --> 01:29:00,512
And they'll say it,
right? That I'm not a cheater,
1617
01:29:00,514 --> 01:29:02,916
- that the law is unfair?
- No, Charlie,
1618
01:29:02,918 --> 01:29:05,384
the government
won't say that on its own.
1619
01:29:05,386 --> 01:29:08,390
But if they don't say it,
how will I have won?
1620
01:29:10,425 --> 01:29:12,959
You-you haven't.
1621
01:29:12,961 --> 01:29:15,397
But you-you get the money.
1622
01:29:17,699 --> 01:29:20,266
What about everyone else?
1623
01:29:20,268 --> 01:29:22,803
When you came to see me,
you said...
1624
01:29:22,805 --> 01:29:25,906
Charlie, the settlement
is only for you.
1625
01:29:25,908 --> 01:29:29,443
No one else can benefit.
1626
01:29:29,445 --> 01:29:31,479
But could we win?
1627
01:29:31,481 --> 01:29:32,713
Well...
1628
01:29:32,715 --> 01:29:34,815
we could, and...
1629
01:29:34,817 --> 01:29:37,453
and the impact
would last generations.
1630
01:29:39,656 --> 01:29:42,356
But the ACLU feels...
1631
01:29:42,358 --> 01:29:45,526
it's best
if you take the offer.
1632
01:29:46,997 --> 01:29:49,831
But you're my lawyer, Ruth.
1633
01:29:49,833 --> 01:29:52,268
What do you think?
1634
01:29:59,243 --> 01:30:01,643
- Ah, Ruth.
- Professor Brown.
1635
01:30:01,645 --> 01:30:02,978
Please come in.
1636
01:30:06,583 --> 01:30:07,850
Dean Griswold.
1637
01:30:07,852 --> 01:30:09,685
Mrs. Ginsburg.
1638
01:30:09,687 --> 01:30:14,423
I'm pleased you found a use
for your Harvard education.
1639
01:30:14,425 --> 01:30:17,595
Actually, what I'm doing now,
I learned at Columbia.
1640
01:30:18,663 --> 01:30:20,563
Ah.
1641
01:30:20,565 --> 01:30:23,566
Ruth was always my most
thoroughly prepared student.
1642
01:30:23,568 --> 01:30:26,736
So much to prove.
1643
01:30:26,738 --> 01:30:30,007
These days, the girls are
as hopeless as the men.
1644
01:30:30,009 --> 01:30:32,876
How's little Jane?
1645
01:30:32,878 --> 01:30:34,644
Not so little.
1646
01:30:34,646 --> 01:30:36,479
And we have another. James.
1647
01:30:36,481 --> 01:30:38,849
Mm, I'm sure
they keep you busy.
1648
01:30:38,851 --> 01:30:40,651
Yes.
1649
01:30:40,653 --> 01:30:42,455
Both of us.
1650
01:30:43,723 --> 01:30:46,392
Ernie has your paperwork ready.
1651
01:30:49,495 --> 01:30:53,031
My client was very excited
about your offer.
1652
01:30:53,033 --> 01:30:55,632
Good. Good.
1653
01:30:55,634 --> 01:30:58,069
He did, however,
have some conditions.
1654
01:30:58,071 --> 01:30:59,671
Conditions?
1655
01:30:59,673 --> 01:31:01,505
What kind of conditions?
1656
01:31:01,507 --> 01:31:03,742
First of all,
he'd like you to forgive
1657
01:31:03,744 --> 01:31:05,309
a hundred percent of the money.
1658
01:31:05,311 --> 01:31:06,911
None of this
one dollar business.
1659
01:31:06,913 --> 01:31:08,379
Yes, well, I'm sure
1660
01:31:08,381 --> 01:31:09,948
we can manage to arrange that.
1661
01:31:09,950 --> 01:31:11,816
And he'd like the government
to concede
1662
01:31:11,818 --> 01:31:13,386
that he did nothing wrong.
1663
01:31:14,955 --> 01:31:16,788
And enter into the court record
1664
01:31:16,790 --> 01:31:18,656
that Section 214
of the tax code
1665
01:31:18,658 --> 01:31:20,658
discriminates
on the basis of sex
1666
01:31:20,660 --> 01:31:23,263
and is therefore
unconstitutional.
1667
01:31:24,331 --> 01:31:26,531
I can't agree to that.
1668
01:31:26,533 --> 01:31:28,067
And you know it.
1669
01:31:28,069 --> 01:31:30,370
Does Mel Wulf know about this?
1670
01:31:32,974 --> 01:31:36,410
Then we'll see you in court.
1671
01:31:46,722 --> 01:31:48,556
Thank you, gentlemen.
1672
01:31:49,625 --> 01:31:51,091
It was a pleasure.
1673
01:31:59,935 --> 01:32:01,835
Your Honors...
1674
01:32:01,837 --> 01:32:03,772
and may it please the court.
1675
01:32:06,842 --> 01:32:10,077
Your Honors...
and may it please the court.
1676
01:32:10,079 --> 01:32:12,479
Your Honors, and may it...
1677
01:32:12,481 --> 01:32:14,949
Section 214 of the tax code.
1678
01:32:14,951 --> 01:32:17,319
Section 214
of the tax code.
1679
01:32:26,729 --> 01:32:28,964
Your Honors...
1680
01:32:28,966 --> 01:32:31,834
and may it please the court.
1681
01:32:58,495 --> 01:33:00,765
Good morning.
1682
01:33:05,971 --> 01:33:07,804
You're ready for this.
1683
01:33:07,806 --> 01:33:10,206
You've been ready for this
your whole life.
1684
01:33:10,208 --> 01:33:12,976
So go in there
and let the judges see
1685
01:33:12,978 --> 01:33:15,547
the Ruth Ginsburg I know.
1686
01:33:20,552 --> 01:33:22,652
- Oh, Professor Brown.
- Marty.
1687
01:33:22,654 --> 01:33:24,889
- Good to see you.
- You remember our daughter Jane.
1688
01:34:06,633 --> 01:34:08,968
- Charlie.
- Good morning.
1689
01:34:08,970 --> 01:34:11,739
- You must be Jane.
- Nice to meet you, Mr. Moritz.
1690
01:34:17,045 --> 01:34:19,178
- Mr. Ginsburg.
- No, uh, Mel Wulf.
1691
01:34:19,180 --> 01:34:21,747
- ACLU.
- That's me. I'm Mr. Ginsburg.
1692
01:34:21,749 --> 01:34:23,484
- Nice to meet you, Charles.
- My pleasure.
1693
01:34:30,591 --> 01:34:32,660
Well, here we are.
1694
01:34:39,868 --> 01:34:41,068
All rise.
1695
01:34:41,070 --> 01:34:44,838
The United States Court of
Appeals for the Tenth Circuit
1696
01:34:44,840 --> 01:34:46,240
is now in session.
1697
01:34:46,242 --> 01:34:50,043
Judges Doyle, Holloway
and Daugherty presiding.
1698
01:34:50,045 --> 01:34:52,182
Be seated.
1699
01:34:55,952 --> 01:34:59,020
You have a century
of case law on your side.
1700
01:34:59,022 --> 01:35:01,191
Just do your job.
1701
01:35:03,560 --> 01:35:04,926
The first case is
1702
01:35:04,928 --> 01:35:07,862
docket number 71-1127.
1703
01:35:07,864 --> 01:35:10,999
Charles Moritz v. Commissioner
of Internal Revenue.
1704
01:35:11,001 --> 01:35:13,102
Each side will have
30 minutes to present.
1705
01:35:13,104 --> 01:35:15,636
When two minutes remain,
the court clerk will rise
1706
01:35:15,638 --> 01:35:19,141
to give warning; when your time
is up, he will sit.
1707
01:35:19,143 --> 01:35:21,276
Counsel for the appellant,
1708
01:35:21,278 --> 01:35:23,948
Mr. Ginsburg, you may proceed.
1709
01:35:27,218 --> 01:35:29,885
Good morning, Your Honors,
and may it please the court.
1710
01:35:29,887 --> 01:35:31,587
Today we are going
to demonstrate
1711
01:35:31,589 --> 01:35:33,822
that Section 214
of the U.S. tax code
1712
01:35:33,824 --> 01:35:36,125
unfairly discriminates
against our client,
1713
01:35:36,127 --> 01:35:37,327
Mr. Charles Moritz,
1714
01:35:37,329 --> 01:35:40,796
because he is a man.
1715
01:35:40,798 --> 01:35:43,632
Congress assumed that
1716
01:35:43,634 --> 01:35:45,268
a caregiver
is most likely a woman.
1717
01:35:45,270 --> 01:35:47,303
Is that so unreasonable?
1718
01:35:47,305 --> 01:35:51,074
If the law says all caregivers
are entitled to a deduction,
1719
01:35:51,076 --> 01:35:53,376
and if the writers,
in the back of their mind,
1720
01:35:53,378 --> 01:35:55,278
thought, well,
this will only apply to women,
1721
01:35:55,280 --> 01:35:57,013
then that would be
an assumption.
1722
01:35:57,015 --> 01:35:58,782
But they went farther
than that, Judge.
1723
01:35:58,784 --> 01:36:00,850
They explicitly list
who qualifies
1724
01:36:00,852 --> 01:36:02,819
- as a caregiver.
- As is their prerogative.
1725
01:36:02,821 --> 01:36:04,821
Yes, but, Judge,
I doubt that you would turn
1726
01:36:04,823 --> 01:36:07,158
the same blind eye if it said
only white caregivers.
1727
01:36:07,160 --> 01:36:09,226
Oh, that's hardly
the same thing.
1728
01:36:09,228 --> 01:36:11,829
Respectfully, we disagree.
1729
01:36:11,831 --> 01:36:13,898
I'm gonna turn it over
to my cocounsel,
1730
01:36:13,900 --> 01:36:15,633
who will discuss the
constitutional questions...
1731
01:36:15,635 --> 01:36:18,571
You're telling us that race
and gender are the same?
1732
01:36:20,807 --> 01:36:22,740
My cocounsel...
1733
01:36:22,742 --> 01:36:24,376
Yes, yes, we'll get to her
in a minute.
1734
01:36:24,378 --> 01:36:27,845
But I'd appreciate an answer
to my question.
1735
01:36:27,847 --> 01:36:29,847
In order for a law
to discriminate,
1736
01:36:29,849 --> 01:36:32,117
it must distinguish
between groups arbitrarily.
1737
01:36:32,119 --> 01:36:33,318
Is that correct?
1738
01:36:33,320 --> 01:36:35,387
My cocounsel will...
1739
01:36:35,389 --> 01:36:36,955
Mr. Ginsburg.
1740
01:36:36,957 --> 01:36:38,725
I have asked you.
1741
01:36:44,765 --> 01:36:46,765
It must be arbitrary. Yes.
1742
01:36:46,767 --> 01:36:49,901
And in this case,
we believe the law is.
1743
01:36:49,903 --> 01:36:52,138
Mr. Moritz is a man
who never married.
1744
01:36:52,140 --> 01:36:53,738
That may make him less likely
1745
01:36:53,740 --> 01:36:55,740
to have childcare
responsibilities,
1746
01:36:55,742 --> 01:36:57,176
but not parent care
responsibilities.
1747
01:36:57,178 --> 01:36:59,846
- And had he been a woman...
- And to your mind,
1748
01:36:59,848 --> 01:37:02,415
classifications of this kind
must always be discriminatory?
1749
01:37:02,417 --> 01:37:03,950
There's some help.
He's asking him
1750
01:37:03,952 --> 01:37:05,284
to make a broad
categorical claim.
1751
01:37:05,286 --> 01:37:06,786
I can't speak to always, Judge.
1752
01:37:06,788 --> 01:37:10,091
I can only speak to this case
and this man.
1753
01:37:11,393 --> 01:37:13,327
Very well.
1754
01:37:13,329 --> 01:37:14,760
Thank you.
1755
01:37:14,762 --> 01:37:16,031
Then speak of him.
1756
01:37:21,871 --> 01:37:25,839
Again, the only distinction
between our client, Mr. Moritz,
1757
01:37:25,841 --> 01:37:29,042
and any other caregiver,
in Judge Daugherty's words,
1758
01:37:29,044 --> 01:37:30,844
is arbitrary.
1759
01:37:30,846 --> 01:37:32,212
Thank you,
1760
01:37:32,214 --> 01:37:35,350
and I cede the remainder
of my time to my cocounsel.
1761
01:38:02,213 --> 01:38:03,947
Your Honors...
1762
01:38:06,484 --> 01:38:09,020
Whenever you're ready,
Mrs. Ginsburg.
1763
01:38:11,923 --> 01:38:14,490
Your Honors,
and may it please the court.
1764
01:38:14,492 --> 01:38:16,759
Section 214
1765
01:38:16,761 --> 01:38:19,462
denies Mr. Moritz
a caregiver tax deduction
1766
01:38:19,464 --> 01:38:23,032
available to similarly
situated women...
1767
01:38:23,034 --> 01:38:25,834
Yes, yes, we've...
we've been through all that.
1768
01:38:25,836 --> 01:38:28,837
Uh, Mrs. Ginsburg,
you are aware
1769
01:38:28,839 --> 01:38:32,377
that the government has
three coequal branches?
1770
01:38:35,781 --> 01:38:38,181
- Mrs. Ginsburg?
- Yes, of course, Your Honor.
1771
01:38:38,183 --> 01:38:42,120
And that it is the
Congress's role to write law?
1772
01:38:44,056 --> 01:38:47,427
Your Honor, I understand
how government works.
1773
01:38:48,994 --> 01:38:50,729
Take it easy, Ruth.
1774
01:38:51,863 --> 01:38:55,499
Well, uh, sometimes a law,
even a good law,
1775
01:38:55,501 --> 01:38:57,902
even a law that is legal
under the Constitution,
1776
01:38:57,904 --> 01:39:00,371
may not be good for every
individual it affects.
1777
01:39:00,373 --> 01:39:02,173
I have a question.
1778
01:39:02,175 --> 01:39:04,275
If I understand correctly,
1779
01:39:04,277 --> 01:39:07,446
you're concerned about men
and women being pigeonholed
1780
01:39:07,448 --> 01:39:09,847
into certain roles
based on gender.
1781
01:39:09,849 --> 01:39:11,283
Yes, that's correct.
1782
01:39:11,285 --> 01:39:12,883
- Because...
- Excuse me.
1783
01:39:12,885 --> 01:39:14,186
Uh, that wasn't my question.
1784
01:39:14,188 --> 01:39:16,321
It strikes me
that the caregiver deduction
1785
01:39:16,323 --> 01:39:18,156
does the opposite.
1786
01:39:18,158 --> 01:39:21,159
It helps women be able to work
outside the home.
1787
01:39:21,161 --> 01:39:23,130
Isn't that a good thing?
1788
01:39:24,298 --> 01:39:26,365
But the law assumes
it must be the woman
1789
01:39:26,367 --> 01:39:29,101
who is supposed to be at home
in the first place.
1790
01:39:29,103 --> 01:39:31,837
Well, that is the case
in every family I know.
1791
01:39:31,839 --> 01:39:33,573
So it's the assumption
that's the problem.
1792
01:39:33,575 --> 01:39:36,008
Then when can a law
differentiate
1793
01:39:36,010 --> 01:39:38,779
on the basis of sex? Never?
1794
01:39:40,048 --> 01:39:43,283
When the classification
rationally relates to the law.
1795
01:39:43,285 --> 01:39:46,419
Keeping women out of combat,
for example.
1796
01:39:46,421 --> 01:39:48,388
I'm not sure whether I agree
with that example...
1797
01:39:48,390 --> 01:39:51,457
Oh, so you think women belong
on the front lines now, too?
1798
01:39:51,459 --> 01:39:53,192
No, that's not what...
1799
01:39:53,194 --> 01:39:55,194
Gender, like race,
1800
01:39:55,196 --> 01:39:57,498
is a biological,
unalterable trait.
1801
01:39:57,500 --> 01:40:00,301
There is nothing that women are
inherently better at than men,
1802
01:40:00,303 --> 01:40:01,435
nor vice versa.
1803
01:40:01,437 --> 01:40:03,304
Growing a beard?
1804
01:40:03,306 --> 01:40:04,338
Well, that's...
1805
01:40:04,340 --> 01:40:06,273
Lactation.
1806
01:40:06,275 --> 01:40:08,275
No thinking person
could possibly imagine
1807
01:40:08,277 --> 01:40:10,344
that Charles Moritz's
gender relates
1808
01:40:10,346 --> 01:40:13,149
to his abilit...
1809
01:40:15,552 --> 01:40:18,152
Why can't we, Mrs. Ginsburg?
1810
01:40:18,154 --> 01:40:21,623
In most households, aren't
women the primary caregivers?
1811
01:40:21,625 --> 01:40:24,091
Aren't men the breadwinners?
1812
01:40:24,093 --> 01:40:26,196
Aren't they?
1813
01:40:32,336 --> 01:40:35,036
Most households,
yes, Your Honor.
1814
01:40:35,038 --> 01:40:37,005
Doesn't that reality suggest
1815
01:40:37,007 --> 01:40:40,043
that that's
the natural order of things?
1816
01:40:45,982 --> 01:40:48,250
Respectfully, Your Honors,
I'd like to reserve
1817
01:40:48,252 --> 01:40:50,987
the remainder of my time
for rebuttal.
1818
01:40:56,260 --> 01:40:59,197
Not sure I followed that.
H-How are we doing?
1819
01:41:03,602 --> 01:41:05,167
It's okay.
1820
01:41:05,169 --> 01:41:06,605
It's not over yet.
1821
01:41:20,319 --> 01:41:24,154
Mr. Bozarth for the appellee,
1822
01:41:24,156 --> 01:41:25,989
- you may proceed.
- Don't let them forget
1823
01:41:25,991 --> 01:41:27,525
what this case is really about.
1824
01:41:27,527 --> 01:41:29,694
You'll be fine.
1825
01:41:29,696 --> 01:41:31,396
Ah, Bozarth.
1826
01:41:31,398 --> 01:41:34,699
The, uh, master of citations.
1827
01:41:34,701 --> 01:41:37,235
That's what my family
calls me, too, Judge.
1828
01:41:40,340 --> 01:41:43,141
Your Honors,
and may it please the court.
1829
01:41:43,143 --> 01:41:44,709
Congress created
this tax deduction
1830
01:41:44,711 --> 01:41:48,246
to help caregivers
go out and work.
1831
01:41:48,248 --> 01:41:50,047
Caregivers.
1832
01:41:50,049 --> 01:41:53,953
Folks that, if they weren't
working, would stay home.
1833
01:41:55,288 --> 01:41:58,457
Now, are we meant
to believe that this man
1834
01:41:58,459 --> 01:42:00,325
would have the skill
1835
01:42:00,327 --> 01:42:02,694
or even the caregiver's
instinct to do that?
1836
01:42:02,696 --> 01:42:04,763
Why can't we believe that?
1837
01:42:04,765 --> 01:42:07,099
Why does an unwed woman
have that instinct
1838
01:42:07,101 --> 01:42:08,700
but not an unwed man?
1839
01:42:08,702 --> 01:42:10,402
Or a widower, for that matter?
1840
01:42:10,404 --> 01:42:12,070
Well, respectfully,
Judge Doyle,
1841
01:42:12,072 --> 01:42:14,473
a widower doesn't choose
to be a caregiver.
1842
01:42:14,475 --> 01:42:15,708
It's thrust upon them.
1843
01:42:15,710 --> 01:42:18,478
And as for women,
1844
01:42:18,480 --> 01:42:20,179
it doesn't take
a legal treatise
1845
01:42:20,181 --> 01:42:22,382
to prove what
a hundred thousand years
1846
01:42:22,384 --> 01:42:24,617
of human history
has made indelibly clear.
1847
01:42:24,619 --> 01:42:27,120
And Congress can write
1848
01:42:27,122 --> 01:42:30,056
the tax code to enforce
this natural law?
1849
01:42:30,058 --> 01:42:32,194
Congress can write
whatever tax code it wants.
1850
01:42:33,128 --> 01:42:34,762
All I'm saying, Judge,
1851
01:42:34,764 --> 01:42:38,298
is that given
the natural order of things,
1852
01:42:38,300 --> 01:42:42,703
this man, Mr. Moritz,
hasn't suffered as a result.
1853
01:42:42,705 --> 01:42:44,405
But the country will suffer
1854
01:42:44,407 --> 01:42:47,075
if the court doesn't find
for the appellee.
1855
01:42:50,379 --> 01:42:52,413
Your Honors, I am certain
there isn't a man among us
1856
01:42:52,415 --> 01:42:55,149
who wouldn't try to ease
his wife's burdens.
1857
01:42:55,151 --> 01:42:57,084
So I don't see
how we can judge negatively
1858
01:42:57,086 --> 01:42:58,787
the members of Congress
who would do the same.
1859
01:42:58,789 --> 01:43:01,522
And I'm not alone in that.
1860
01:43:01,524 --> 01:43:04,058
There is a long and honorable
tradition in the courts
1861
01:43:04,060 --> 01:43:06,128
of upholding laws
like this one.
1862
01:43:07,364 --> 01:43:09,431
I, for one, would rather see
my government err
1863
01:43:09,433 --> 01:43:11,668
on the side
of caring too much...
1864
01:43:13,504 --> 01:43:14,736
...of trying too hard
1865
01:43:14,738 --> 01:43:17,539
to help the ladies
of this country,
1866
01:43:17,541 --> 01:43:21,276
rather than to be indifferent
to their unique burdens.
1867
01:43:21,278 --> 01:43:23,247
Now, maybe Mr. Moritz
disagrees.
1868
01:43:24,414 --> 01:43:26,682
Or maybe he just
doesn't like paying taxes.
1869
01:43:28,085 --> 01:43:29,552
Personally,
I don't believe that.
1870
01:43:29,554 --> 01:43:32,122
I believe that Charles Moritz
is a victim.
1871
01:43:33,391 --> 01:43:35,123
Not of his government,
1872
01:43:35,125 --> 01:43:38,160
but of the lawyers
who have used his case
1873
01:43:38,162 --> 01:43:39,731
to achieve their own ends.
1874
01:43:41,099 --> 01:43:44,835
Radical social change.
1875
01:43:49,307 --> 01:43:52,476
We rest our case
on our briefs and argument,
1876
01:43:52,478 --> 01:43:56,313
and ask that the court uphold
the tax court's decision.
1877
01:43:56,315 --> 01:43:58,149
Thank you.
1878
01:44:10,596 --> 01:44:12,462
Counsel for the appellant,
1879
01:44:12,464 --> 01:44:16,135
you have four minutes
for rebuttal.
1880
01:44:26,212 --> 01:44:28,748
Counsel for the appellant?
1881
01:44:38,593 --> 01:44:40,360
Counselor.
1882
01:44:53,708 --> 01:44:57,879
"Radical social change."
1883
01:45:04,653 --> 01:45:08,688
When I was in law school,
there was no women's bathroom.
1884
01:45:13,362 --> 01:45:16,563
It's amazing to me now
that we never complained.
1885
01:45:16,565 --> 01:45:19,199
Not because we were timid;
we were just astounded
1886
01:45:19,201 --> 01:45:22,469
to be in law school at all.
1887
01:45:22,471 --> 01:45:26,373
A hundred years ago, Myra
Bradwell wanted to be a lawyer.
1888
01:45:26,375 --> 01:45:28,274
She had fulfilled
the requirements
1889
01:45:28,276 --> 01:45:29,944
for the Illinois bar,
1890
01:45:29,946 --> 01:45:31,946
but she wasn't allowed
to practice
1891
01:45:31,948 --> 01:45:34,214
because she was a woman.
1892
01:45:34,216 --> 01:45:38,421
An injustice she asked
the Supreme Court to correct.
1893
01:45:39,856 --> 01:45:42,690
Illinois was so confident
of victory,
1894
01:45:42,692 --> 01:45:46,762
they didn't even send a lawyer
to argue their side.
1895
01:45:46,764 --> 01:45:48,562
They were right.
1896
01:45:48,564 --> 01:45:49,933
She lost.
1897
01:45:52,335 --> 01:45:55,671
That was the first time
someone went to court
1898
01:45:55,673 --> 01:46:00,742
to challenge his or her
prescribed gender role.
1899
01:46:00,744 --> 01:46:02,880
A hundred years ago.
1900
01:46:06,316 --> 01:46:08,918
"Radical... social...
1901
01:46:08,920 --> 01:46:11,221
change."
1902
01:46:14,291 --> 01:46:17,627
65 years ago,
when women in Oregon
1903
01:46:17,629 --> 01:46:19,762
wanted to work overtime
and make more money,
1904
01:46:19,764 --> 01:46:22,865
as men could, the court looked
to the precedent in Bradwell
1905
01:46:22,867 --> 01:46:24,267
and said no.
1906
01:46:24,269 --> 01:46:27,603
So then there were
two precedents.
1907
01:46:27,605 --> 01:46:30,908
Then three, then four,
and on and on,
1908
01:46:30,910 --> 01:46:33,276
and you can draw a direct line
1909
01:46:33,278 --> 01:46:35,344
from Myra Bradwell
to Gwendolyn Hoyt,
1910
01:46:35,346 --> 01:46:36,947
told ten years ago
1911
01:46:36,949 --> 01:46:40,519
she was not entitled
to a jury of her peers.
1912
01:46:41,821 --> 01:46:43,954
That is the legacy
1913
01:46:43,956 --> 01:46:46,690
the government asks you
to uphold today.
1914
01:46:46,692 --> 01:46:50,027
You are being urged
to protect the culture
1915
01:46:50,029 --> 01:46:52,463
and traditions and morality
1916
01:46:52,465 --> 01:46:55,301
of an America
that no longer exists.
1917
01:46:57,904 --> 01:46:59,671
A generation ago,
1918
01:46:59,673 --> 01:47:02,640
my students would have been
arrested for indecency
1919
01:47:02,642 --> 01:47:04,843
for wearing the clothes
that they do.
1920
01:47:04,845 --> 01:47:07,812
65 years ago,
1921
01:47:07,814 --> 01:47:09,080
it would have been unimaginable
1922
01:47:09,082 --> 01:47:11,518
that my daughter
would aspire to a career.
1923
01:47:13,887 --> 01:47:16,755
And a hundred years ago...
1924
01:47:16,757 --> 01:47:20,627
I would not have the right
to stand before you.
1925
01:47:30,938 --> 01:47:34,406
There are 178 laws
that differentiate
1926
01:47:34,408 --> 01:47:36,408
on the basis of sex.
Count them.
1927
01:47:36,410 --> 01:47:39,879
The government did the favor
of compiling them for you.
1928
01:47:39,881 --> 01:47:42,848
And while you're at it...
1929
01:47:42,850 --> 01:47:45,684
I urge you to read them.
1930
01:47:45,686 --> 01:47:49,623
They're obstacles
to our children's aspirations.
1931
01:47:49,625 --> 01:47:52,926
You're asking us to overturn
nearly a century of precedent.
1932
01:47:52,928 --> 01:47:55,695
I'm asking you
to set a new precedent,
1933
01:47:55,697 --> 01:47:59,132
as courts have done before
when the law is outdated.
1934
01:47:59,134 --> 01:48:00,867
But in those cases,
the courts had
1935
01:48:00,869 --> 01:48:02,437
a clear constitutional handle.
1936
01:48:03,772 --> 01:48:07,707
The word "woman"
does not appear even once
1937
01:48:07,709 --> 01:48:10,345
in the U.S. Constitution.
1938
01:48:11,513 --> 01:48:15,718
Nor does the word "freedom,"
Your Honor.
1939
01:48:30,901 --> 01:48:32,733
Go on...
1940
01:48:32,735 --> 01:48:35,039
Professor Ginsburg.
1941
01:48:40,611 --> 01:48:44,012
The principal purpose
of Section 214
1942
01:48:44,014 --> 01:48:46,048
is not to protect women
1943
01:48:46,050 --> 01:48:48,050
nor to discriminate
against men.
1944
01:48:48,052 --> 01:48:50,853
It is to provide caregivers
the opportunity
1945
01:48:50,855 --> 01:48:52,621
to work outside the home.
1946
01:48:52,623 --> 01:48:56,159
Therefore, as the Supreme Court
did in Levy v. Louisiana,
1947
01:48:56,161 --> 01:48:58,627
this court should fix the law
1948
01:48:58,629 --> 01:49:01,764
most in line
with the legislative intent.
1949
01:49:01,766 --> 01:49:04,636
Extend the deduction
to never-married men.
1950
01:49:05,503 --> 01:49:08,607
Help all caregivers equally.
1951
01:49:12,577 --> 01:49:15,912
Charles Moritz was well-raised
to be the sort of man
1952
01:49:15,914 --> 01:49:18,949
we should all hope our sons
will become.
1953
01:49:18,951 --> 01:49:22,485
Charlie deserves
our admiration.
1954
01:49:22,487 --> 01:49:24,822
Not only has he
taken on the burden
1955
01:49:24,824 --> 01:49:28,792
of caring for his
very strong-willed mother
1956
01:49:28,794 --> 01:49:31,195
when no one would
expect it of him,
1957
01:49:31,197 --> 01:49:35,599
but in doing so, he has
surpassed the limitations
1958
01:49:35,601 --> 01:49:38,736
the rest of us and our laws
1959
01:49:38,738 --> 01:49:41,805
seek to force upon him.
1960
01:49:41,807 --> 01:49:45,043
We're not asking you
to change the country.
1961
01:49:45,045 --> 01:49:48,914
That's already happened
without any court's permission.
1962
01:49:48,916 --> 01:49:53,820
We're asking you to protect the
right of the country to change.
1963
01:49:57,524 --> 01:50:01,127
Our sons and daughters
are barred by law
1964
01:50:01,129 --> 01:50:03,095
from opportunities
based on assumptions
1965
01:50:03,097 --> 01:50:04,629
about their abilities.
1966
01:50:04,631 --> 01:50:06,798
How will they ever disprove
these assumptions
1967
01:50:06,800 --> 01:50:11,569
if laws like Section 214
are allowed to stand?
1968
01:50:11,571 --> 01:50:14,040
We all must take these laws on,
1969
01:50:14,042 --> 01:50:16,676
one by one,
for as long as it takes,
1970
01:50:16,678 --> 01:50:18,711
for their sakes.
1971
01:50:18,713 --> 01:50:21,247
You have the power
to set the precedent
1972
01:50:21,249 --> 01:50:24,217
that will get us started.
1973
01:50:24,219 --> 01:50:27,755
You can right this wrong.
1974
01:50:38,000 --> 01:50:42,035
We rest our case
on our briefs and argument,
1975
01:50:42,037 --> 01:50:43,770
and ask...
1976
01:50:43,772 --> 01:50:48,142
that you reverse
the tax court's decision.
1977
01:51:12,035 --> 01:51:13,968
Kiki!
1978
01:51:13,970 --> 01:51:15,636
That was perfect.
1979
01:51:15,638 --> 01:51:18,639
- That was perfect.
- We don't even know who won.
1980
01:51:18,641 --> 01:51:20,878
Doesn't matter.
It was right.
1981
01:51:21,946 --> 01:51:24,213
This is just the beginning.
1982
01:51:24,215 --> 01:51:25,314
Mm!
1983
01:51:25,316 --> 01:51:26,882
I'm gonna go gloat.
1984
01:51:29,620 --> 01:51:32,021
- Martin. Thank you.
- Of course, Charles.
1985
01:51:32,023 --> 01:51:33,822
Jane.
1986
01:51:33,824 --> 01:51:36,058
Ruth, I...
1987
01:51:36,060 --> 01:51:38,230
- We'll be in touch.
- Yeah.
1988
01:51:53,211 --> 01:51:54,946
You did it.
1989
01:51:56,048 --> 01:51:58,317
We did it.
1990
01:52:01,686 --> 01:52:03,953
Oh, and I say we celebrate
1991
01:52:03,955 --> 01:52:07,058
and go pick up James
and get some pizza.
1992
01:52:18,371 --> 01:52:20,638
We'll hear arguments next
1993
01:52:20,640 --> 01:52:22,274
in number four,
Reed against Reed...
1994
01:52:22,276 --> 01:52:25,243
...next in, uh, 71-1694,
1995
01:52:25,245 --> 01:52:27,979
Frontiero against Laird.
1996
01:52:27,981 --> 01:52:30,215
...Weinberger
against Wiesenfeld.
1997
01:52:30,217 --> 01:52:31,749
...Khan against Shell.
1998
01:52:31,751 --> 01:52:34,252
...Edwards
against Healy and others.
1999
01:52:36,256 --> 01:52:37,756
Mrs. Ginsburg.
2000
01:52:37,758 --> 01:52:39,391
Mr. Chief Justice,
2001
01:52:39,393 --> 01:52:40,926
and may it please the court.
2002
01:52:40,928 --> 01:52:45,897
Amicus views this case as kinto Reed v. Reed, 404 U.S.
2003
01:52:45,899 --> 01:52:47,266
The sex criterion stigmatizes
2004
01:52:47,268 --> 01:52:51,137
when it is used to limit
hours of work for women only.
2005
01:52:51,139 --> 01:52:54,307
It assumes that all women
are preoccupied
2006
01:52:54,309 --> 01:52:55,408
with home and children.
2007
01:52:55,410 --> 01:52:57,877
These distinctions have
a common effect.
2008
01:52:57,879 --> 01:53:01,080
They help keep woman
in her place,
2009
01:53:01,082 --> 01:53:03,883
a place inferior
to that occupied by men.
2010
01:53:03,885 --> 01:53:05,818
The law must stop using sex
2011
01:53:05,820 --> 01:53:07,987
as a shorthand
for functional description.
2012
01:53:07,989 --> 01:53:10,290
The judgment enjoins
enforcement of the statute
2013
01:53:10,292 --> 01:53:13,826
insofar as it discriminates
on the basis of sex.
2014
01:53:13,828 --> 01:53:16,096
...practical effect,
laws of this quality
2015
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help to keep women
not on a pedestal,
2016
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but in a cage.
2017
01:53:20,002 --> 01:53:24,438
Sarah Grimké said,
"I ask no favor for my sex.
2018
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"All I ask of our brethren
2019
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is that they take their feet
off our necks."
2020
02:00:05,360 --> 02:00:10,360
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