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and good day to you
today I've traveled

out into the deepest
Suffolk to the

small hamlet of
showand to a very

unusual church throat
chapel which is

King Charles the
martyr church it's only

one of five in England
dedicated to the

memory of King Charles
first and what a

lovely church is very
plain very simple

it's known as a done
native Church in

short there existed
here until 1646 a

medieval church which
was in ruins as a

result of the
Reformation a local

landowner a man
believed as Thomas

Crocky decided to
rebuild the church and

dedicated to the
memory of the king who

as many of students
of history will know

wasn't extremely
unpopular King and

particularly so
with Parliament and

certainly autocratic
in his role and

eventually the English
grew tired of him

and he was publicly
executed so for

Thomas crock Lee
during the period of

the English Civil
War to dedicate this

church to King
Charles the first is

quite an amazing
feat which he managed

to get away with
unfortunately by 1659

Thomas crop Lee had
died and actually

missed the return of
royal patronage in

the form of King
Charles a second who

was invited from
France to take the

front of England
but this doe native

Chapel was survived
by the beneficiaries

of local landowners
and I believe in

1767 further work
was carried out on to

the church and
particularly so with the

front porch which was
added then so what

we have is a
collection basically of

three different
styles of architecture

which are brought
together into this one

building is early as

in the 14th century
to the 17th century

when the church was
rebuilt from ruin

and to further
improvements in the 18th

century and the
church this day still

stands and is still
useful Christian

worship and I find
holding experience

being here and
particularly so in such a

rare Church quite
fascinating and

looking around being
I could admire the

Georgian architecture
which is fits a

particular style that
I'm fond of and to

see the box pews and
the triple pulpit

and the general layout
and ambience with

the pastel colors
have been used inside

this building is
simply something to

behold and for those
of you that live

further afield it
is a place that is

worth visiting should
you ever get the

opportunity to
come here well I'm

actually standing
here I'm just glancing

across on the
right-hand side of the

nave going towards
the chancel there is

a wooden block with
three pegs on it

those three pegs
are actually for the

Georgians to hang
there weeks on so they

were satya and a
particularly hot day a

very hot servant
they would take off

their wigs and they
would hang them from

those wooden pegs
how unusual is that

and still here one
hoping to do now is

to introduce you
more into the rest of

the church and
have a wander down

towards the chancel
and I hope you can

join me there

just lovely stunning
inside this box pew

anyway what we have
here as you can see

is the top part of
an arch probably a

window or perhaps
a small doorway for

some purpose which
obviously has been

filled in and the
plaster over the

centuries because
of dampness has

probably caused it
to fall away exposing

the rough caught
underneath which gives

you some idea of
how this church was

constructed I wonder
what other prizes a

way to restore as
in 90 years though

actually hidden
underneath the plaster

of the existing
church but anyway I

digress

isn't it wonderful
the fact that you can

see it the fact that
it's here the last

vestige of the 14th
century and here it

is what I particularly
love which is

something that
perhaps isn't noted by

many people when
coming into a church

here we have the
aisle and on this side

we have the chancel
but before the

chancel this is not
an altar gate is a

gate and the purpose
of which and you

can tell by the
narrow ballast ballast

rods is the purpose
is to stop dogs from

actually wandering
into the otter and

chancel area so one
can assume centuries

ago when people
came here to worship

they brought with
them their pets

probably sent inside
these Box pews you

can imagine the dogs
barking the babies

screaming their heads
off it must have

been quite a community
affair here but

they thought it
necessary at some point

to incorporate this
round gate so it's

quite an unusual find
and quite welcomed

because it tells you
just a little bit

more about the
history of this one

Chappell it's wonderful isn't it

that's wonderful it's
quite interesting

standing inside the
chancel there are a

number of grey plates
markers two people

that have lived in
the community and

there are commemorative
plates carved in

memory of Thomas crop
leaf the man that

saved this church
I wonder if mr.

crappie is still
keeping a watchful eye

over the church and
the parishioners

because the church
is existence here is

quite perilous in
some degree it is

miles from any
large settlement of

humans sits in a
very small country

Hamlet you just get
the odd vehicle that

rolls pastan to be
honest it's quite

easy for people to come here and

actually miss the
church to drive home I

was lucky today I was
able to spot it as

soon as I've got here
and what a lovely

building it is what a beautiful

atmosphere that's
here it's very light

very Airy not at
all aggressive or on

edge

just a light pleasantry
here we actually

have a woven cloth
screen or covering

and it actually
goes all the way 1/2

level around the
walls up to the altar

and it's crested by
these beautifully

carved and quite
sharply pointed rather

and what an attractive
piece it is and

again something that
you wouldn't expect

to find inside a
church certainly not a

present church
keeping you too rather

restrained less
flamboyant styling we

have something

that kind of riches
outdoor bit further

is trying to share
something a little

bit more than what
you would expect to

find inside the
church and here it is

it's just wonderful
wasn't there I'm

actually going to
stand in the chance

from now to see if
I can actually touch

base with any type
of spiritual behavior

let's have a look

the atmosphere here
is light Pleasant

always a good audience
I find in most

churches may not be
the wealthy Church

but it's certainly
one that's been

greatly enjoyed
over the centuries I

just going to have
disappearing let's

see we're gonna get
any response as you

can hear it's
definitely quite here

there's no air ball
flying over and just

the odd car that just
happens packed by

mistake to drive
past it's out in the

middle of nowhere I
come here in love I

in peace I mean no harm

disrespect I just
wish to make peaceful

and friendly contact
with any spiritual

presences within
this beautiful church

can anyone give me
an indication clear

that their presence here

okay I'm feeling the
presence of a past

I believe it to be
this person to be a

past priest probably
going back to the

latter part the
1830 part of 19th

century this man
is probably in his

sixties is quite bald
it's got a lot of

gray hair either side
over his is quite

scruffy in a way
really not what one

would expect from
a priest but he's a

very jovial person
big smiling face

wearing round

Bryn's glasses very
thin wire framed

glasses

he's teeth appear to
be stained I can't

honestly tell you
why I'm saying that

I'm thinking that
that's why I'm picking

up

I can say that this
man I believe his

first thing was
James a very kindly

cheery kind of fellow
I see him with a

big smile very
kind very positive

imagery of this person

and as I'm looking
at these box pews now

I'm seeing a huddled
mass inside each of

the sections with
a head down deep so

all I'm actually
seeing from here is

just the tops of their
heads as had been

offering prayer and
I imagine the chaos

in here on a Sunday
sermon and of course

with the knowledge
and the fact that

Doc's used to come
into this church and

were a persistent
problem and the fact

that families would
have come with their

children and babies Wow

it's almost like a
circus atmosphere

here people coming
going people chatting

to each other during
the sermon and yet

all perfectly
acceptable it is strange

when you wander into
these places that

you've never visited
previously in your

life then you're
imbued this history I'm

going to stand
quietly in the silence

and see what happens
could you give me a

sign please could you
make a noise could

you touch something
could you give an

indication of your
presence please

the person I'm having
with this man is

just edging around
here just doing his

daily chores
doesn't seem to be a

connection between
him and he the realm

and myself in this time almost a

residual energy as it were

my particular one
I'm standing here

looking back now
into the nave or the

appearance hanging
from the rafters of

three oil Victorian
almost no less sadly

converted to electricity
because one can

imagine what it must
have been like in

the old days before
electricity to see

them lit at night
but anyway they're

here

and they had a certain
cultural identity

to this church as
a family Church a

rural family church
and she's standing

here of course I'm
looking back towards

what with the beam
where the organ is

and that's something
I need to touch on

with you very shortly
but the organ is

the role crest of
King Charles the first

they must be as
rare as hen's teeth

other than the five
churches that we

know about there cannot be many

representations of
Charles's coat of

arms anywhere else
in the United Kingdom

it's absolutely
splendid it's just

wonderful being here

I'm feeling a little
bit sick now I

don't know why I am a little bit

nauseous

well can you stand
back please I don't

know who this is

it's not that man
that I picked up

earlier I'm feeling
very windy should we

say just easing away
now which is over

whelmed by war or
sickness I mean what

can imagine you see
when we look back

into history most
families were large

incredibly large
ain't knowing children

and the reason for
that was simply that

because of the lack
of medical care

available at that
period of history many

many people died in
their development

from many of course
then actually rich

beyond their childhood
so there was a

necessity to have as
big as families as

a possible and a
hope that one of them

would survive the
majority of course

would pass away
being prescribed as

dying from consumption
but there were an

array of diseases
which were incurable

and so if you were struck with a

life-threatening
illness it was just

literally being in
the hands of God as

to whether or not
you would survive and

if you did survive
you would come here

and you would give
your things to God

because there was nothing else

and that feeling of
nausea it kind of

encapsulates those
feelings of thoughts

a simple plane is
what this church is is

a very attractive Church and its

simplicity it's why
I'd like about some

Protestant churches I find some

traditional older
Catholic churches

particularly abroad in Italy or

elsewhere tend to be
overly aeration in

colors and their
ornamentation very very

heavy with statues
of angels and of

saints and of famous
people who were

buried in these
churches here it is kept

to the minimum you
focus upon your

worship of God and
not alluding to allow

yourself to be sucked in by the

decorations that
were particularly

favored in the past
by the Catholic

Church as a sign
of wealth a sign of

power and the
Protestants wanted to

evolve away from that
to keep everything

regulated plain and
simple you come here

to worship God not
to avoid a statuary

or the paintings
of a gold colored

paintwork that you
find in many of those

churches of course
we should also

remember that during
the reign of the

Catholic Church in
this country there

are many many beautiful
works of art as

of all paintings
frescoes sadly of which

of course many of
long since disappeared

following the
Reformation they Weaver

painted over or in plastered

how unusual I've
been here three hours

and I've just heard
a jet fly over

anyway I want to share with you

something special
which is the organ and

I'll tell you more
than we get there all

the way down towards the font is

something which is
extremely unusual

inside any churches
a triple-decker

pulpit and this piece
is quite amazing

and if you imagine
in the priests

standing there full
of fire brimstone

and delivering the
message of God to the

heathens quite amazing

I forgive me for
my imagination I

particularly love
about this is that the

top and middle pour
pits are decorated

with a grade a cloth
rate with tassels I

think probably at one
time this may have

been a screen which
was home down by the

sides but of course
has long since gone

it's fairly worn now
but a number of the

tassel still exists
but what beautiful

structure standing with surety

assertiveness over
over this tiny

congregation it's just wonderful

anyway let's go down
to the font what we

have here essentially
is a 14th century

font beautifully
carved with a sprawling

and patterning and it's cat by a

Georgian pineapple
topped covering so

there you have the
fusion between the

14th century and
18th century merged

together here in one
piece and the only

identifiable relic
of the earlier church

apart from that
broken window that I

showed you earlier
and it's beautiful

absolutely wonderful
and it survived all

those centuries being stood

and he hearing noises
in the background

there are some men
in the field shooting

but this is lovely

the real joy is the
actual organ itself

what we have here is
the only one of its

type in Suffolk it
is a barrel organ it

can play 36 different
tunes and was

installed here in the year 1820

unfortunately I can't
access the barrel

organ to play it and I certainly

wouldn't want to
without somebody being

present but one can
imagine the sort of

hurdy-gurdy sound of
music that will be

played out inside
to the congregation

here it's lovely
isn't it absolutely

marvelous all the
pipes are here all

properly preserved
and it's in full

working order is
just amazing yes

a lovely church why
proposed to do now

is to actually sit
inside one of the box

pews and see whether
or not we can troll

through energy in
the form of EVP or

perhaps some type of
occurrence I don't

feel anything hostile
here at all just

mild and pleasant
and lovely Church and

certainly pleased
that I've actually

made the effort to
come out here today

anyway that's come
down everything

here's on highs
and that the barrel

organ is on high the
pulpit is on high

some churches
depending on their own

religious convictions
wanted to level

the playing field
so anything that

separated the
congregation from the

otter and from the
church itself was

removed and so many
of these box pews

were ripped out in
later years and in

some churches the
altar was actually

lowered so that it
could be on the same

level as the rest
of the congregation

which perhaps was
an early indication

within the Church of
an equality as such

between the church
and the common folk

and of course the landowners

I'm going to sit in
this box here and

hopefully draw
something through which

could be interesting
I love these doors

just being so here there is the

impression of a woman
19th century very

dark clothing
literally from her neck

long way down to
her feet huge skirt

dress probably a
lady who lady in her

70s quite elderly
a very strongly

weather-worn face
her hands are very

very rough opsi a lady that has

experienced a lifetime
of toil and yet

here I can feel her

I can see her
actually tidying the

church keeping it
clean so one of the

church helpers
perhaps but she's here

and again just like the priest

she's completely
circumstan the fact I'm

here is it a residual
energy I don't

know why she's here

please could you give
me a sign of your

presence could you
say something could

you give me some
indication of your

presence here

there's a strange
smell a smell of

cooking smell of all
vegetables both me

the kind of smell
that you expect on

people's clothing
if they've been

cooking wearing the
same clothes a bit

like when people
fry and fry food the

stench of they soaks
into their clothing

and here I can smell
this pot boil for

want of a better
word an old smell a

smell that's been
on someone's clothes

for a while yes

there's a number
of strange odors

floating around it
here it's difficult

to describe them all
but they're here a

very earthy country
smell I think

so many echoes from
the past here and to

be honest if anyone
came back to his

church from the I
don't know maybe the

19th century nothing
here would look at

miss just amazing a time capsule

stepping back and it's here

if I hear any noises
I will report them

I'm not hearing anything

okay it's time for
me to return back to

Essex I really
enjoyed this trip out

here today took
over an hour and a

quarter to get here
but it's certainly

worthwhile for the
isolation of this

place simply
wonderful absolutely

wonderful anyway
without much ado thank

you for joining me
today and I look

forward again to
seeing you the next

time so until then
from me to you take

this is totally
incredible an amazing

building I'm actually
at Lawrence's

Church in the village
of Broughton in

Buckinghamshire
Broughton today is a

small part of a much
larger entity which

is the new town of
Milton Keynes and

this church was
erected in the 14th and

15th centuries and
covers wall art

dating from the
15th 16th and 17th

centuries so effectively
we're looking

at artwork from the
pre-reformation and

post-reformation
periods and what an

incredible array
of pictures we have

here to share with
you plus the ambience

of this building in 18-49 whilst

rebuilding the
chancel to the church

they accidentally
discovered under years

and years of whitewash
some beautiful

medieval wall paintings
now before the

Reformation of the
church many people

were peasants they
were unable to read

or write and so it
was necessary for the

church to paint vivid religious

descriptions to keep
the worshipers and

congregation in order
nobody today knows

who these artists
were but there were

clear reminder of
times past in a very

harsh and cruel
world and that is the

world of the medieval after the

Reformation period
things changed

somewhat the original
wall paintings

were painted over and
they were replaced

by short Psalms and
prayers which were

far more subtler and
gentler and really

just to encourage
and remind people of

their loyalty and
allegiance to God in

this place of worship

the church was
declared redundant in

1987 and was handed
into the care of the

church's conservation
trust and is no

longer used for worship
and indeed today

it is regarded more as a museum

the building is grade
1 listed because

of the fantastic
artwork that surrounds

you when you walk
into this building and

the ambience
generated from it is

something very special

including the bells
of the church which

always strike on
the owl the first

painting I want to
reference here today

is actually above
the North doorway as

you come into the
church you can see it

directly in front of you in many

churches that you go
into you often find

some Christopher as
a welcoming gesture

as you enter the
church here the message

is much more staid
and much more certain

about your future
because here above the

North doorway is
judgment unfortunately

the wall painting
has been compromised

bytes Victorian uncovering and

repainting which
makes it hard exactly

to date and gives
a scheme essential

look the upper part
of the painting has

been lost so only
the left foot and

Rover Christ survives
however many other

details are clear
wars and tales of the

heavenly city on the
left-hand side and

we have an angel
blowing the last

trumpet to summon
the dead to rise to

come to be judged
and we have an angel

with a sword on
the top right-hand

corner which is
possibly the angel of

expulsion which
guarded the door to the

edan in the bottom
center we have the

weighing of souls
with the Virgin Mary

sheltering souls
in the cloak and

holding a huge string
of prayer beads

and some Michael
holding the scouts of

the right originally
it would have been

shown spearing the
demon at his feet as

he tried to weigh
down the scout in the

weighing of souls
and what could not be

better than the mouth
of hell complete

with sharp teeth
and souls licked by

flames

tomorr writing on the
wall is a painting

depicting a lamentation
or Peter which

was painted in the
year fourteen seventy

and has nine wrote
medieval figures

carrying parts of
Christ's body the

painting depicts
Christ in the arms of

his mother and as
you can see his right

arm and leg are broken
and mutilated the

central scene is
surrounded by the nine

men who carry portions
of the body of

Jesus bones limbs
etc one carries the

Sacred Heart another
the sacred host the

body of Christ in
the consecrated bread

of the Eucharist at
the bottom of the

pitcher two men
quarrel over a game of

backgammon it's been
suggested that one

of the purposes of
this painting was a

warning to medieval
people that they

injured our Lord
on they swore oaths

black parts of his
body so as you can

see another example
of how the church

exerted authority
across the peasantry

so if you misbehaved
Christ would be the

one who would suffer
and of course when

you died and your
soul passed on you

would suffer you
would be condemned to

an eternity of health
and not abide by

the laws of Christ
this is all fairly

heavy stuff but
for the period of

history in which
these were planted

these were terrible
times there was

plays there was
diseases all kinds of

terrible maladies wars conflicts

disagreements many
many ways for people

to die slow and
miserable deaths and so

the important thing
that most people

wanted was salvation
at the end of this

if they were to die
having suffered such

a terrible life

in this depiction
which is painted above

the south doorway as
you enter into the

church isn't George
riding a horse

spearing a dragon at his feet

unfortunately the top
part of st. George

is missing this is
due to the fact that

in the 15th century
the church decided

to lower the roof
and so the top part

which would have
shown some charge his

helmet has completely
gone and so there

are no references
to that today but

what's left there is
quite remarkable to

say the very least

the artwork of the dragon is

particularly
intriguing very very

beautiful as indeed
other parts of the

exposed horse and
the lower parts in

George's body and
of course emblazoned

across in George's
chess is a red cross

on a white background which

coincidentally is
also the flag of

England and so since
George became the

patron saint of
England but who was sin

George the man the
worse than jaws was

born in Cappadocia
which is now in

Turkey in around
the year to 80 AD he

enlisted into the
cavalry of the Roman

army at the age of
17 during the reign

of the Emperor
Diocletian Diocletian

second in command
was Galeras the

conqueror of Persia and an avid

supporter of the pagan
religion and as a

result for the rumor
the Christians were

plotting the death
of Galerius an edict

was issued that all
Christian churches

were to be destroyed
and all scriptures

to be burnt anyone
omitting to being a

Christian would
lose his rights as a

citizen if not his
life son George acted

to limit the excesses
of diocletian's

actions it tanks the
Christians he went

to the city of
Nicomedia where upon

entering he tore down
the notice of the

Emperor's edict when
he appeared before

Diocletian it said
this and George

bravely denounced him for his

unnecessary cruelty
and injustice

and subsequently
Stan George having

defended his faith
was beheaded at nikka

media near Lydia
in Palestine on the

23rd of April in the
year 303 ad within

the context of this
wall painting the

dragon would have
been some form of

demon and also and a
more subtle message

to the peasantry of
the medieval England

of that period it
would also have been a

warning to other
faiths who did not

conform to the
teachings of Christ and

so San Jorge as in
his historic context

of being a supporter of early

Christianity was
still defending the

faith by vanquishing
all foes that stand

before God

one wall painting
which is seldom seen

by the public is now
actually covered by

the organ which was
placed here in 1993

having originally
stood inside the otter

area of the church
in the chancel and

that is actually the
Lord's Prayer and

if you look very
carefully above the

pipes of the bat
you can actually see

the depictions of
the lettering showing

part of the prayers
it runs down the

wall where the rest
of the prayer is

there today I honestly
can't answer but

I understand that
there is still quite

degree of wall
painting which has been

left and what an
amazing find amongst

all the other amazing
finds that I've

discovered here
today and now we move

across to the next depicted wall

painting which is
an Eligius and st.

Helena both have
historic connections

particularly so to
the Church of Rome to

the Catholic faith
in England and also

to the Eastern
Orthodox Church as well

as in later years
perhaps to a lesser

degree the Church of England

as we can see certainly
GEOSS is holding

in one hand the
bishops crows II or

crook he's wearing
the clothing of a

bishop and he is
raising one hand up to

God on one hand on
the staff and if you

look very closely
and particularly

beneath the depiction
you'll see a

number of images
which are painted on

the walls which
depict many implements

and objects which
were created by

metalsmiths and
metal workers and

Goldsmith's etc
because the Eligius is

the patron saint of Goldsmith's

and metal workers
the only problem of

course there is a
monument plate across

these depictions
so we've only got a

partial representation
of what is

actually their Eligius was an

interesting character
was an early

Christian bishop
who certainly found

favor with a king of
that period he was

born in France in
around 660 AD and very

quickly rose to
prominence and became a

close confidant and
friend of the king

of that period
certainly during his

lifetime as a young
man he was a skilled

metalworker and
was alleged to have

created a beautiful
gold throne for the

king which obviously
in noble his favor

to the said Regent
the story is that he

came across once a
horse which refused

to be reshot by a
blacksmith and the

horse became unruly
and so some Eligius

rode the horse was
possessed by demons

and as an act of faith
to his belief and

his religion he
chopped off one of the

four legs of the
horse and rishaad the

limb and then
miraculously reattached it

back to the animal's
body and the demons

were gone and the
animal returned to

normal this was
regarded as being an

amazing act and
particularly so within

the teachings of the
Catholic Church of

that period and
so that earned him

sainthood

but the reality of
cently Jia's was

apart from being
the patron saint of

metalworkers and
blacksmith he was a

skilled goldsmith
was the fact that he

was an important power player

and the early part of the last

millennium and is
also noted as being

one who converted
the Gauls and the

Franks into the
Christian faith but of

course after the
Reformation characters

makes the Eligius very quickly

disappeared from Fame
and to his left is

some Helena the
mother of the Emperor

Constantine and she
was certainly a very

powerful figure and
was perhaps one of

those instrumental
in his conversion to

the Christian faith
it's said that she

traveled to the Middle
East with a view

to finding the cross
upon which Christ

was crucified and
eventually came across

three crucifixes and
in order to prove

upon which one was
the original crucifix

upon which Christ was crucified

she found a port and
very seriously ill

old lady and
instructed her to touch

these three crosses
the first two she

touched there was
no effect but upon

touching the third
which is the one

which is depicted here

the lady was
miraculously cured of all

ills and was joyous
and happy and again

another miracle

one can appreciate
having experienced

the harshness of the
rule of the Church

of Rome up to the
Reformation the

Protestants wished
to have a more softer

tone and approach
and so basically

rather than reinforcing
their will upon

you they're pleading
to you they're

saying look if you
don't worship God if

you don't believe in
God then the words

of God and the church
itself will fade

effectively so rather
than in forcing

people to worship
people were being

embraced by the church
to worship which

is a completely
different doctrine to

that of the past and
bearing a line of

course for the 17th
century there were a

lot more people that
were much better

educated and could
make their own mind

and decide how they
wish to worship God

if indeed at all they
wanted to visit or

worship in this church
and that I think

is the theme that's
followed through and

there are many other
textual entries

with quotations from
the Bible but to

reiterate there is
nothing there which

shows the harshness
of the previous

years and sadly this
is where the church

follows through
because after this

period and
particularly after the

restorations which
had taken place here

all the medieval
glass which previously

existed is long
gone and has been

replaced by a number
of beautiful panels

by Victorian artists
and sadly like the

way of many churches
of this vintage in

later years the
congregation's dwindled

and effectively
faded away and so the

relevance and the
power of the church

was no longer regarded as being

something essential
to most people's

lives and the strange
irony as I said

earlier when we first
arrived the entire

surroundings of
where we are is now

filled with housing
milton keynes has

expanded and spread
out and a swallow to

the village of rosen

perhaps in later
years there may be a

recall to worship
here as a church or

perhaps not it will
continue as a museum

but as I've often
mentioned on many my

visits what happens
in future centuries

how will these
buildings be loved and

maintained and there
is every possible

risk that if people
don't appreciate the

significance of
what these buildings

really represent
which is a historical

record of our past
they too will fade

into history and that
will be something

regrettable and
something that cannot

ever be replaced

since I've been in
here filming I've

actually met a very
interesting man a

man but name of
Barry Waites and and

what is your
responsibility and interest

with his church well
I'm a member of the

Friends of some Laurent
formed just over

a year ago to ensure
that the church has

is open to the public
it has always been

possible for for
people to come to us at

Lawrence's and get
the key and walk

around but we wanted
to use it more as a

community resource
because there's now

new building
surrounding the area and

there are many
people expressing an

interest in the
building and seeing it

as a centre of the
community now you've

got a book here
which dates to when

roughly Barry 1567

and it's a defence
of the apology of the

Church of England so
what prompted this

book well

after Henry the eighth
made himself head

of the Church of England

and as in fact as
you go through that

period of Edward the
six the Protestant

Reformation by the
time you get to and

death by the time
you get to the reign

of Queen Elizabeth
there was now a very

clear distinction
between the church in

England that had
left the fold of the

Roman Catholic Church
and we shouldn't

forget that Elizabeth
was excommunicated

by the Pope which
prompted the Duke of

Parma to launch an
invasion exactly this

book was printed
was printed it is an

argument against
the Roman Catholic

Church which says
that it was the

English church that
carried on the true

tradition of
Catholicism and not the

Church of Rome which
was corrupt and it

is in Old English
script it is called

black letter actually
and it's very

difficult to read
it's beautiful though

isn't it artistically
it is it is very

very beautiful and
it's it's a very

learn ed book and it's full of

references referring
to other sources in

which he brings to
his aid all of these

sources including
quotes from the Bible

a horrible heresy
sent Agostini's faith

or something it
says up here and so

really this was a
defense of the Church

of England that's
right yeah it's it's

argument why it
was better than the

Church of Rome and
and why people should

abide by the teachings
yes it says that

in fact the English
church had gone back

to its origins

we are the English
church and we are the

true English Catholic
Church and always

have been

and of course this is also a

representational of
evolution in society

how people's concepts
were changing how

they viewed things
much more differently

to the earlier teachings that he

received under the
Church of Rome and

you just - what we're
talking about this

you've got another
book over here the

paraphrase of Erasmus
would it be 1517

1523 to the church
in 1632 was a Dutch

scholar he was
originally a Catholic and

he also became King
James the First's

tutor by which time
he was a Protestant

and that's James
the first came to be

not only a Protestant
because he was the

daughter of the
Catholic Mary Queen of

Scots but also as a successor to

Elizabeth and he

erasmus translated
the whole of the new

testament into latin
but rewritten for

to give greater
understanding and the

idea Henry the
eighth's wife catherine

parr she was the
final one and the one

that survived it was
her idea that her

as mrs. gospel should
be translated into

english and believe
it or not some Queen

Mary who was actually one of the

translators who
translated she became

known as Bloody Mary
and took the church

back to Catholicism
but she is believed

to have translated
the Gospel of st.

John

so despite her she
would say homicide or

sight she was also an academic I

understand that being
an organist here

you're actually gonna
pay ass out with

she would say a
more really suitable

tune yes many people who come to

services see it
still as a village

church what else
do you expect in an

English village
church but something

like I vow to thee
my country to host

you Gustav Holst yeah

it's only a smaller
than but many people

love to hear it and
and they do say it

just brings memories
flooding back

it's very emotional
piece and especially

when it's accompanied
by singing it is a

very powerful piece

like all good things
the day has come to

an end and I've
thoroughly enjoyed my

visit to some
Lawrence Church and

particularly in the
company of Barry

Watson who is one of
the friends of some

Lawrence church the church is

Conservation Trust
control an amazing

array of churches
across England this

being one of many
and if you get the

opportunity to visit
this church you

must do so it is
worth a journey I

actually spoke to a
couple earlier that

had traveled down
from Newcastle to

actually visit this
wonderful building

and so I'm sure
hopefully after today

you will be driven
to come down here and

experience the same joys
and pleasures that I have,

I'm actually standing
inside one of the

great religious
houses of England in

fact this vast
expanse of ruins once

represented a vital
part of the economy

of this area of
thetford in Norfolk but

before we actually go on with an

investigation and
touch base with some

of the historical
background of this

remarkable location
a short while

earlier on our way
up here we stopped

over at the village
of great live Amir

in Southwark to
meet up with one of

England's greatest
ghost tellers a man

by the name of Montague
Rhodes James and

here is my report

you

it is seldom that
in life you get the

opportunity to pay
homage to one of your

heroes and I think
for me one of my

literary hero is
as a man by name of

Montague Rhodes
James more commonly

known as the author
M R James who is

regarded as a father
of the antiquarian

ghost story he was
an academic he spent

much of his life at
university and the

end of these days
Eton but for the best

part of 40 years
his family had to

living here as far
was the priest he

arrived here at the
age of three with

his family and was
associated with this

village for over 40 years

in fact his art of
writing ghost stories

was legendary apart
from being a great

scholarly academic
into medieval life no

doubt he had a
certain acting ability

because he used to
enthrall and entrace

his students with
his stories which she

had written especially
for them he also

based many of his
other stories on

locations associated
or known to him

through his family
and friends old Burr

and Suffolk B one
other place that comes

to mind but the main thing about

Montague Rhodes James
was that he wrote

a template for the
modern ghost story

many of em are James's
works have been

adapted for
television two of his

compositions were
written around this

village one was
called a vignette and

the other was entitled
simply rats so

one can imagine what
an honor it must

have been to be in
the presence of this

great man and although
he died eaten and

was buried there a
plaque remains today

to the genius of
Montague rose James

inside some Peter's
Church and now we're

returning back to
Thetford which is the

seat for today's
investigations and

ghostly historical connections

that was certainly
an interesting visit

to the home of Mr
James a man who for

many many years has
entertained me with

his wonderful ghost
stories and now we

are actually standing
inside the remains

of a clinic Priory
which was built in

the 12th century
right in the middle of

fete furred in
Norfolk as with many

ancient and abandoned
sites across

Britain and this
site was abandoned in

the year 1540 after
the dissolution of

the Catholic Church
in England one can

imagine the ghostly
legends that have

attached themselves
to these places some

of those perhaps were created

deliberately to keep
people way to stop

people causing the
nuisance of damaging

the site or perhaps
for more Nefera sack

tivities such as
smuggling on the other

hand there is also
a lot of residual

energy left over
from the period in

which the monks were
here and certainly

in 1937 a group
of people passing

through here one
evening could hear

monks singing and
also heard a monk

reading from some
ghostly text and of

course more recently
in 1991 a group of

teenagers passing
through here also

could hear ghostly
music and not only

that they actually
saw a monk and they

were attracted to
his presence by the

sound of keys clanking
in the darkness

and you can imagine
the sheer terror

that they must have
suffered before they

decamped from this
location very quickly

unfortunately the
site is owned by

English heritage and
so after 6:00 p.m.

at night the entire
site is shut down

but it still does
not stop people from

climbing in here to
carry out their own

investigations
although for ourselves

tonight we have another
but very special

location in Thetford
forest itself and

let's not forget
more recent history

we have the Bell
Hotel or the belly we

actually called in
there earlier today

to see whether or
not we could get

interviews or perhaps
film inside the

location but the
staff we spoke to the

having heard these
are reputations in

ghostly tales claim
that none of this

has affected them
and that they haven't

experienced any
activity whatsoever

although they did say
if you go into the

cellars down below
where it's very cold

and very damp there
is a pervasive

atmosphere in there which is

particularly scary
and something which

makes the staff feel
very uncomfortable

about before they
have to depart from

the cell cellars very quickly so

unfortunately as much
as I would love to

be able to investigate
some of the

legends attached to
the Bell in I can

report that a
member of staff was

allegedly locked
in by ghostly hands

into a room and that
there is a lady who

has been she was say
in residence for a

number of years who
haunts the premises

but unfortunately
of course again

because it is a
commercial business and

because there is a
lot of people passing

in and out it wasn't a practical

location for us to
be able to carry

through any type of
investigation and

just one more other
thing I'd like to

cover for our american
friends the great

thomas paine originated
from Thetford

before moving to
London and eventually

to America where he
ignited the spirit

of the Revolution
which occurred in 1776

and Payne today is
a favored son of of

the actual town and
if you travel around

there are plenty
of monuments and

plaques to this great
man so all in all

the fit furred site
is for many many

reasons a great
place to explore but

perhaps to a degree
the town has been

contaminated by the
modern world and

from my point of view
that does not make

for a good

paranormal investigation

unless you're
standing inside a very

unusual and perhaps
unique building this

dates from the 13th
century and is a

solid squat tower it
has two stories we

have an upper floor
and a lower floor

and many people
would probably think

that this was some
kind of a prison but

in fact it's actually
a warren is lodge

a Warriner was a
person employed to

catch wild rabbits
as Jane for food and

the reason we built this unusual

building was because
this land was owned

by the Priory

at fete furred and
the Warner's were

being attacked by
Roman gangs for the

game that they had
actually caught or

they were attacked
by poachers so in

order to defend
this position and to

save their lives

the abbot had this
unusual building

erected after the
disillusioning 1540

the whole building
was handed over into

the estates of the
Harald family and the

house family kept
and maintained this

structure until the
early part of the

20th century and over
the centuries the

forests here was
regarded as one of the

best for catching
wild rabbits and what

would happen is that
on the upper floor

the Warriner or the
hunting party would

sleep on the lower
floor the dead

rabbits would be stored for

transportation back
to Thetford the

following day it has
a number of ghostly

tales attached to
it one I think was

perhaps created as
a method to keep

people away from
here and the other is

perhaps a more
chilling tale which I

will share with you
the one I think that

was confection was
the tale of the white

rabbit with a red
glowing eyes and

believe me or not
this is quite a savage

beast he's alleged
that should you see

this white rabbit
with a red glowing

eyes you die within 24 hours I

personally think
that the story is a

little bit far-fetched
that I haven't

heard of anybody who's
actually suffered

from this terrible
calamity of seeing

this frightful
apparition of a rabbit

but certainly
there's another story

which is one that
I'm hoping we can

follow up this
evening by tearing out

our own the
investigation of this

building we can
actually get inside the

building because
there is a metal grill

behind us and it has
a roof but there's

enough space for
me here to reach

forward into the
structure with a

camcorder and perhaps
may be able to

pick up something
interesting the other

the other story is
about really a girl

and this girl is a
man with no eyes and

no mouth but just
black holes for

sockets and has a
two-dimensional face

and his face according
to legend has

appeared on the
ground floor and upper

floor levels and I
believe 20 years ago

somebody walking
through here at night

actually saw this
face leering at them

from the ground floor
and they fled in

terror whether or
not tonight we will

encounter the spirit
I don't know but

I'm pretty sure we
should pick up some

good quality EVP at
this location and

perhaps some other
strange apparitions

keep hearing
whispering all the time

whispering and I
think that somebody

following

you can see what
this is well I think

this is effective
I used to be called

God robes and
basically their toilet

shoots so on the
upper floor if anybody

was using this as a
toilet it would come

directly down this
chute and you'd be

deposited down the
bottom here for

clearing up the
following day and of

course the lowest
of the low were

employed to do those
kind of jobs but I

think this is the
remains of a Garda

robe interesting we've
now returned back

to fitfoods Warren
Lodge on the edge of

Thetford forest it's
not too cold it's

quite nice it's
certainly very very

quiet there's a lot
of activity around

us as far as nature
we we've actually

seen what you think
is a deer on the way

through and what we
intend to do is to

video around this
building and also

perhaps a little
bit into the forest

I've just had a look
inside through the

grille and there's
certainly a strong

energy here so I'm
hopeful that we're

going to pick up
something really worth

sharing with you so
let's crack on with

our investigation

nothing really yeah
what can you think

just say but when I
first focus in where

you want this I'm not sure about

restaurant a nothing particular

I don't sure sort
of lie out there

nothing on here

no I'm not she'd
film you okay shots

it's alway next year

nothing belong to
that yourself just

that won't be long

if anything what you
should be doing is

standing away from
the building so you

can get as much in
view and what you

commit you to you
view what you viewed

what

that's exactly their
way of doing it

looking around the
outskirts that way

don't you do the
same the other side

I'll get some shots

yeah got a light at
the top in one of

the windows and all

I love these windows
his slits in the

sand

I'm feeling getting
an irritation about

us now

I just took a picture
inside and the

instant have actually
taken it I felt

this tremendous irritation an

impertinence that we are taking

photographs of
creating lights you say

inside that building
I just get the

impression that
somebody would rather we

kept it quiet and
of course we will do

and we're not staying
here forever but

it is a very strong
irritation to stay

in realeased but we
just can they keep

wandering around the
outskirts in this

building there isn't
a great deal of

other places to go
to we're actually in

the middle of a large
clearing from the

forest so we're not
right on the edge of

the forest but it's interesting

I'm picking up a
name a first for I

thought he was the
surname was something

like turbo octobot
Thabo but the name

I'm picking up is
William Taverner

William Taverner
whoever he was one of

the Warner's here
the rabbit hunters I

don't know the name
is striking that he

very very strongly
at the moment is

William Cavanaugh

I'm picking up
something I just want to

find out what it is can you show

yourself please I
can fill you I know

you're here I haven't
come here to cause

you any any inconvenience
well at least

I hope I'm not
calling you that I've

just come here to
make friendly and

peaceful contact
with you it's very

difficult with these
bars but literally

can you tell me your
name please is it

William Cavanaugh

it's one of the
five places and then

that's the fireplace
on the upper deck

doesn't really give
you a lot of scope

it's internet although
there's nowhere

else we can't there's
no no there's none

of it can't get to
open it so you know

no yeah it's just
the bars or new

convenience please could you say

something

one of these windows
there's where a

face appears some
of them will windows

where there are no
more than arrow slits

so you're never
going to see a face

they're basically a
mini fall isn't it

yeah fortified farms
over the north it's

you know it's a it's
accomodation with a

military purpose but
you're not fighting

over armies you're
fighting thieves and

brigands

please could you say
something could you

make a noise could
you give us some

indication of your
presence please

superstone

I'm sorry I'll just
stick him up a bit

for a minute so you
just step back now

just for a second
what we actually are

we doing for taunting
I think it's cool

to happen and I
think it's cool to

happen still feels
lighter than that

oh for sure for sure
I'm just going to

step out here a little
bit further what

did what the building
in what way did it

make you feel we
felt what headed no

it's very very active

here's a beautiful building

so those that inhabit
this wonderful

building III do
understand how much many

many of those and
spirit wants to return

back to the places
they knew in life and

they certainly do not want to be

interfered with and
I haven't come to do

that and I do
understand I'm just here

to try make a
measured contact level

with you and I have
no intentions of

returning so I'm just
but a visitor and

I'm not a child and
I haven't come here

to cause a nuisance
and I know that

you've obviously
suffered with that in

the past and I know
that the world in

pond which I live in
is nothing like the

world from which you came

I wondered if anybody
here met the prior

of thethird

because you supplied his kitchen

I'll get the impression
you know with

the Warner's there
was always a military

presence here you
know and pick up men

arms yeah a couple of soldiers

it's very difficult
for these plastic

really for anyone
watching - to get a

really good appraisal of what is

actually here and
all I can give you on

and I do apologize
I just snippets

through these bars
but as you can see

with the wind dies around it was

definitely a fortified
tower some over

the centuries have
become bigger I was

are still in the
original format give

you not here the
thickness of these

walls look amazingly
strong building and

all for the humble
rabbit yes you know

yeah that's all
yeah that's all work

Roman style they've
used in there I

started really neat
job only and if you

look at the bottom
here you can just

take capture somewhere
on here the edge

of work stone like
a like a like an

almond archway so
this must have been

quite decorative in
its heyday yeah I'm

picking up two soldiers
here two minute

arms and maybe
three of them in the

Warrens and also dogs dogs too

yeah small Terrier dogs

so really intriguing
place isn't it Oh

Oh something we just
went up wall yeah

unlike form I hope
it was it maybe in a

moth but oh yeah on
the right it seemed

like a streak but and
then I saw more so

I'm not so sure but
a certainly I'll

check it on the film

anytime is ability
could fall in love

with you that oh
absolutely yeah it's a

it's a very charming
place it has a

certain atmosphere
and to think that we

are where I'm standing
here I'm actually

a part of it so much
you standing inside

a medieval building
and this would have

also would have been
used for prayer as

well Tim there would
have been a small

chapel area for prayer

such was the requirements
of the day not

so much I'm certainly
feeling but I'm

not seeing as much
as I expected to I

think what we'll do
now I think we're

local it quits and
make our way back to

the car it's a very
very dodgy ground

here we're walking
across a sandpit so

you can imagine
how dangerous it is

under thought but we
can do it

or today I'm at the
medieval church of

Samaria virgin that stances

mountfitchett in
Essex surprise me in a

very quiet very
surreal building in its

own way it has a
lot of very early

church architecture
particularly family

walks the memorials
and even there's an

effigy of a knight
as you can see here

cast in stone but
what is very sad about

this building is
that it is no longer

used for worship
and belongs to the

churches Conservation
Trust and it is

open for public
inspection what we're

hoping to do today
is to wander around

the church and be
able to touch in and

touch base rather
with the energies that

prevail here and
with me today and

joining me for the
first time is my dear

friend Mary Priya
who has come all the

way over to the
UK from the United

States of America

it's got here from
the state's actually

we just came from
the airport to check

out this very very
old church it's very

beautiful and there's
a lot of things to

look at so we'll show you around

this church just
walking around has its

own special magic
I've been trying to

tap into energies
within the building

and the strongest at
the moment which is

the moment two famous
people buried here

but what's interesting
here I'm very

spooky if you can get
that on the camera

down here Mary it's
the human skulls

that are carved into
the feet of the of

the actual sarcophagus
that's really

really weird and
there's one over here

to look and the
family to whom this is

dedicated to is the
Middleton family and

obviously looking at
this we're looking

at the 16th century but the most

interesting objects
what I mentioned

earlier is just over
here just crammed

into an archway there

now at his foot
that's Eva a sheep or

it's a line of Judah
which would have

indicated that he may
have served in the

Crusades but there's
no monument to this

particular man but
even so you can see

that the feet across
which is a typical

sign of perhaps being
a knight or Knight

Templar so there's
certainly a very good

history here I'm
actually now picking up

first the first
time since I've been

here today I'm
actually picking up on

something you are
who I think who is

buried here who is
or was in service

either to the the
night that I pointed

out to earlier to
militants who were

buried over there I
just feel that his

presence is here
to sustain their

presence ease within
the church it's

almost though this
man is still in

service to the family
and he is interred

outside of this building in the

graveyard but I feel
his presence here

and I see him more
or less dressed

he's quite rotund
probably no more than

50 but quite old
and wearing like a

medieval smoke atop
so I get the feeling

on connection more
like the servant of

the knight who is
interred here is I've

never felt that before on an

investigation I've
been to many many

churches but never
actually thinking

that one a servant
who stood attached to

to somebody was actually

so that's quite an
interesting first

so whatever wandered
down and see what

was in time for
sure definitely over

here is a very
strong energy over in

Middleton great here
the monument energy

changes here here
the energy feels much

more recently now
I'm feeling a thing

sickness and fitting
presence of a woman

whose name is Jemima

and surname is
something like baby a

wife something similar
to that maybe day

it just feels
tremendous sickness I'm

not sure whether this
lady died here or

whether some terrible
event won't act

happened here 17th
century is the period

that I'm picking up
for this particular

person a tremendous
just a sickness and

sadness but nothing
more it's really

strange spirit many
who are still here

in spirit

that's strange

can't see what's
actually lonely it's a

plate at the very
spot where I'm sitting

this energy okay that of the

churchwarden mm-hmm

now what I'm actually
thinking out here

I wasn't to say a
very protective energy

of somebody and
this is perhaps more

recent probably about
60 or 70 years ago

quite a slim man
quite elderly with

mustache very neatly
trimmed almost

military wearing a
checkered suit plain

shirts and brown tie
and it's almost as

though he is still
here part of the

congregation part of
the church looking

after this building
although this

building is it were
should we say has

been abandoned by
those of the living

clothes in spirit
are still very much

connected to this
beautiful building and

that is evidenced
by the amount of

energy that I'm
now feeling as I'm

walking around what
are we going to do

is just follow all
the way around to the

other side and then
we're going to have

sit down and see
if we can pick up

anything or any EVP perhaps

here very strong
very strong energy

presence might almost
have a spike here

I'm feeling quite
well I headed but that

only headedness I can't actually

associate to a
particular person this

almost like a well
of energy here it's

almost like a core
energy area which I

would say is the
center of the spiritual

center of this
church it's very very

strong here

just briefly
literally professional

certainty

I saw a men in dark
clothing that's all

I can describe I
just saw this dark

figure which was
sat here and he was

bent over slightly
as though he was at

prayer or in quiet
contemplation and

just for a second

he remained invisible
to me and then

quickly disappeared
and he's personally

mr. Thomas that's
the problem with

energy and a problem with what I

actually do is that
sometimes when you

wander into a building
they jump at you

telling you much more
about who they are

on their lives and
sometimes you pick up

absolutely nothing
or on this occasion

you just have
little flashbacks to

particular persons
or individuals but a

collective energy in
this church is very

very powerful I can
imagine that this

building at night
would be very active

and it's such a
quiet and tranquil

building considering
or only a few miles

from Stansted Airport
which is which is

very very strange

once you're up here

mmm-hmm pretty that's
the story this is

all car

I think it's cardboard
as its tone okay

where is actual stone this is an

absolutely exquisite
piece of artwork

it's beautifully
carved and there's a

history to Salisbury
and she died in

1614 there's a funny
smell here up and

smell fish we hadn't
lived yeah there

you pick up but I'm
not actually feeling

anything from her
at all and of course

she would be very
somewhere in the floor

mm-hmm and there's
also black up here

mm-hmm

to a Julia Sarah
Hayfield I can hear

talking the the core
area as I said was

down at the bottom
so I want to go back

down really serious
any persons of this

church we come in
what fine piece will

be no armor offense
we just wish to make

friendly a peaceful
contact if there's

anything that anybody
would like to say

that you say so now
please as we sit in

quiet contemplation
and admiration of

this beautiful building

please could you give
me a sign of your

presence there's
somebody here with us

man

measuring around it

please give us a
mutation in your

present

article article sling article

you tell me you're
sending a face

sorry my old dog
Donaldson where's your

connection here please

and the impression
is this person a

parishioner who
wants to know what we

here what we're doing a kind of

spiritual curiosity

I definitely heard
noises like a chair

no I think it's

but I

just see the flash
across there you know

where that's common
to chair is just so

way before like done
across the back of

it

the same frame can
you come closer

please

now now standing while I fly out

actually it's a woman this lady

yeah you can take that yeah

yeah it was very
very faint and they

just moved from the
chair across the

faculty there so
those of you watching

there is a display
of the flowers near

what looks to be a
Dutch carved chair of

the 17th century and
I saw a very great

shadow of mist to
move across the back

very things across
the back of the chair

and then onto the
flower display and

Mary's also you
picked it up from the

clown Sydney yeah so
that was definitely

yeah so we're being
watched and I have

suddenly filled with
lips there is she

was saying certain
curiosity for us

being here Mary and
I then went to the

flower display where
we earlier saw the

mist yeah and it went
down it went down

those leaves and if
you go to that chair

that's where I
actually saw when this

first appear actually
went across that

the back of the
route that chair yeah

just know it just
melted away and it was

just my curiosity and
I felt that it was

there for a couple
of well a few seconds

before it decided to disappear

it's so strange isn't
it it is very dark

we've actually got
a light on at the

moment to to make
sure that we get as

much detail as we
can