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You know, it was almost
like something mythical,
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like nectar of the gods.
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It just conjured up a
whole different world
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that wasn't my little suburban
corner of the universe.
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I think a lot of
people like me had
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this romantic
notion of eating it,
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but never had that opportunity.
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So I had actually
tasted caviar on a date,
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and that was really
my first time,
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and it was pretty incredible,
at least as far as I remember.
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It was just a very sensual,
pleasurable experience.
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And I don't think
I had caviar again
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until I became the correspondent
for The Inquirer in Moscow.
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In Russia, I was buying a kilo
of caviar every two weeks.
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I was eating it probably
every single day.
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And, of course, when I was
doing my research for my book,
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I was forced to eat
a lot of caviar.
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I will say, since
I've written the book,
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and since caviar has become more
expensive and harder to find,
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I only eat it on
special occasions.
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I think maybe I'm a
recovering addict.
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I've developed a taste
for caviar over the years,
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and I've been doing
this 40 years now.
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And even after 40 years,
every time you eat it, is it's
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like you're opening it for
the first time, in a way.
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Want some, Rosie?
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Come on.
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Just try it.
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It won't kill you.
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I mean, I like it
but it won't kill ya.
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People come in here
wanting caviar.
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They know that it's
expensive and they
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know if they can
afford it they've
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reached that level of affluence
or status or whatever.
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And then they'll open it
up and they'll taste it,
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and they'll hate it.
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Let's see.
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The first time I tried caviar,
I probably had a spoonful
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and said, yeah, so?
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I mean, it was tasty and good.
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But you can't just take
one bite of it and go.
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It tastes salty and fishy.
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Part of the whole enjoyment of
eating caviar is to savor it.
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So this is a Siberian caviar.
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Siberian sturgeon.
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So this would be true caviar?
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This is all true caviar.
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Caviar has to be from
sturgeon, the fish sturgeon,
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otherwise it's fish eggs or roe.
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I just find that people don't
really know what caviar is.
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And it's harder
to get these days
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than it used to be because
of the diminishment
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of the population.
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Sturgeon are, of course,
fished mainly for their caviar,
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or roe, although the
flesh is enjoyable, too.
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Experts claim that the
bigger ones may attain
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an age of 200 to 300 years.
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Known in Western Europe
since the 16th century,
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caviar today is still
a luxury, and giving,
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whether you like the stuff or
not, that millionaire feeling.
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[MUSIC - CHARLEY DREW, "CAVIAR
COMES FROM VIRGIN STURGEON"]
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Caviar comes from virgin sturgeon
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Virgin sturgeon is
a very fine fish
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Virgin sturgeon needs no urging
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That's why caviar is my dish
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I would describe them as
looking like swimming dinosaurs.
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They look like a cross
between a shark, an alligator,
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and a fish.
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The first time I had caviar,
I didn't know what to think.
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I was a little nervous
about trying it.
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So I ate it and it
was interesting.
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The consumption of caviar was
built upon the ability to say,
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I can afford caviar,
therefore I'm special.
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Sturgeon were harvested
quite extensively for caviar
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to the point where they
are really threatened.
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Their existence is
threatened tremendously.
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And that has now grown to the
extent where you would not
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find any wild harvested caviar.
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It's nearly all from a
sustainably farmed sturgeon.
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I guess we make a joke that fish
are not warm, furry, and fuzzy,
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and they don't squeal.
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A personal attachment,
I would say,
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is probably a bit of a stretch.
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That part right there'll
tear you up somethin'.
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I just kind of hold
it at this end,
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take the other hand
and... break em loose
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Here you go.
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You know, because caviar
is seen as such a delicacy,
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such a desirable commodity, we
forget that it wasn't always
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something that people liked.
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Originally it was seen
as a food of the poor.
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It was really almost a sacred
food for Orthodox Christians.
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Sturgeon became the meat they
ate on the meatless days.
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And if you were poor,
you would eat the eggs,
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which was second best.
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But over time, foods of
the poor become very much
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embedded in the local culture
and something they celebrated.
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Because it's for
royalty, the czars,
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it's got that mystique
and eliteness to it
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that almost nothing else has.
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But because of all its
popularity over time now,
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sturgeon, in general,
has become overfished.
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Sturgeon, they range throughout
the entire northern hemisphere,
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but gradually the range
of the fish contracted.
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In the early '90s, there
essentially was a stop, a ban,
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put on the continued
unregulated, unlimited harvest
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of caviar.
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At that time in
the Caspian region,
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everyone became a poacher.
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This is a fish that takes a
very long time to reproduce.
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It's very fragile.
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When you catch a
spawning female sturgeon,
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you not only kill
that fish, but you
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kill all future possibilities.
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And that's why we're seeing
the growth of sturgeon farming,
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because that's the
most sustainable way
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to continue producing caviar.
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I never thought I'd be
doing this, that's for sure.
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I've only been
here eight months.
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I'll be here three years
this coming year in May.
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You get differences
with each fish.
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People don't want to find
any blood, any white eggs,
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they want it pretty
consistently,
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just straight caviar.
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It does have a unique taste.
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The roll of the
eggs on your tongue,
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the way they detonate
on your tongue.
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It's all about the feel
of it in your mouth.
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Some caviar may
have an earthy tone.
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It tastes like fish.
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How much do you think
something like that would cost?
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Um, $1?
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$5 to $10.
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I'm not that good
at math, but yeah.
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A lot of fish and wildlife
and customs officials
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would tell me that
by weight, caviar
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was more valuable than cocaine.
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I don't know what
you're talking about.
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It's not actually
the same conversion.
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As it became more
and more expensive,
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it began to be packaged in
smaller and smaller containers,
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you know.
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So it began to be treated more
and more as this incredibly
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rare and desirable commodity.
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A lot of people will
never eat caviar
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because they just can't
afford it, simple as that,
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so they never have
that experience.
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It's something that I
would eat if presented.
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Would I go and spend hundreds
and hundreds of dollars
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on a small quantity?
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Probably not.
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Yes, this is $70,000 worth
of fish eggs in Russia.
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Outside the country, it could
be worth up to three times that.
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And it's going, going gone.
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If you took all the
caviar in the world
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and put it in a
big bucket, there's
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not enough to go around
for everybody at all.
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Jesus Christ.
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What
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You're really going to
town on that caviar.
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It's the best caviar
they could possibly get.
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It's unbelievable.
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What am I going to
do, pass this up?
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I think you're going over your
allotment a little bit, no?
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My allotment?
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We think we can have
this global culture.
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We think we can eat anything
at any time of the year
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and that it'll have
no consequences.
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This was never meant to
be a mass market food,
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but it was meant to be
the ultimate local food.
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You're looking for more
caviar, aren't you?
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Of course I am.
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You took all mine.
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That was ours.
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If there's a
demand, then why not
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satisfy that with a
population of sturgeon
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that you can sustain,
rather than not produce them
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and affect the wild population?
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As much as we love to talk
about the luxury of it
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and what a delicacy it
is and how to eat it,
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all these rich feelings we
have about it as a food,
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it's also hard to
disassociate those feelings
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from the environmental
impact of what we're doing.
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This story does not surprise us.
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We would only expect the best
for Donald Trump's pampered son
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Barron.
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When it comes to skin
care, he uses his mom's
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caviar-enhanced skin care line.
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She tells ABC News, I put
it on him from head to toe.
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He likes it.
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On a different note,
cops in Saint Pete's have
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seized a large stash of
caviar from a morgue.
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175 kilos of the
delicacy were being
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stored in fridges and coffins
together with dead bodies.
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A local undertaker who rents
out space at the morgue,
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together with a surgeon,
has been arrested.
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The undertaker says the caviar
was meant for a staff New Years
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party.
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Can you say I want more please?
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I want more please.
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I want more caviar.
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