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We're on our way. 4 00:00:15,016 --> 00:00:17,683 I was terrified. 5 00:00:18,953 --> 00:00:21,754 I could hear a young woman screaming for help. 6 00:00:25,059 --> 00:00:29,094 This is a fear on a level that I can't even explain. 7 00:00:29,096 --> 00:00:31,063 I can't go to work and talk about this. 8 00:00:31,065 --> 00:00:33,365 They're going to put me in a psychiatric ward. 9 00:00:33,367 --> 00:00:35,034 Dispatch! 10 00:00:35,036 --> 00:00:36,402 Help me! 11 00:00:38,039 --> 00:00:39,638 Oh, my God! 12 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:41,940 911-- Please state your emergency. 13 00:00:41,942 --> 00:00:43,709 I think it's a ghost! 14 00:01:41,669 --> 00:01:43,602 Aah! 15 00:02:11,732 --> 00:02:15,434 The 911 call reaches paramedic Stacey Hilton, 16 00:02:15,436 --> 00:02:17,503 a former nursing student... 17 00:02:17,505 --> 00:02:19,838 Go double-check that kit! 18 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:24,743 ...and a 14-year veteran of Louisiana's mean streets. 19 00:02:24,745 --> 00:02:27,980 Louisiana, it is considered 20 00:02:27,982 --> 00:02:31,049 one of the most violent areas in the country... 21 00:02:31,051 --> 00:02:32,518 This is ambulance to dispatch. 22 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:36,054 ...a lot of trauma, a lot of shootings. 23 00:02:36,056 --> 00:02:37,689 We need to do a wellness check. 24 00:02:37,691 --> 00:02:39,691 We got a call, a possible 10-49, please, thank you. 25 00:02:39,693 --> 00:02:46,064 The call takes them to a desolate industrial area. 26 00:02:46,066 --> 00:02:48,100 What we found out through our call notes 27 00:02:48,102 --> 00:02:52,871 is that the individual is actually living at his business. 28 00:02:52,873 --> 00:02:55,507 It was the daughter that had called 911 29 00:02:55,509 --> 00:02:58,510 trying to reach her dad. 30 00:02:58,512 --> 00:03:00,379 She lived in another city, 31 00:03:00,381 --> 00:03:04,149 and had been trying to reach him for a couple of days. 32 00:03:04,151 --> 00:03:05,651 It's my father. 33 00:03:05,653 --> 00:03:09,221 He's not picking up, and he's alone. 34 00:03:09,223 --> 00:03:12,758 Definitely a messy divorce, and he had moved out of his home 35 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,394 and was living in the actual warehouse. 36 00:03:21,068 --> 00:03:23,769 When I first walked into the building, 37 00:03:23,771 --> 00:03:26,305 I felt extreme heaviness. 38 00:03:28,542 --> 00:03:31,843 When I continued down the hall, it got heavier and heavier 39 00:03:31,845 --> 00:03:33,779 to where I was actually dizzy. 40 00:03:37,484 --> 00:03:40,452 First responders are very much in the moment 41 00:03:40,454 --> 00:03:43,388 when they come into any sort of emergency situation, 42 00:03:43,390 --> 00:03:46,225 and often times, being focused in the moment 43 00:03:46,227 --> 00:03:48,594 and being focused onto something 44 00:03:48,596 --> 00:03:51,863 will actually open up your perception a little bit more, 45 00:03:51,865 --> 00:03:55,901 in terms of what may be going on around you. 46 00:03:55,903 --> 00:03:58,470 Stacey quickly realizes 47 00:03:58,472 --> 00:04:00,272 she's dealing with a suicide, 48 00:04:00,274 --> 00:04:02,941 but something else catches her eye. 49 00:04:08,082 --> 00:04:09,615 When I approached the end of the bed, 50 00:04:09,617 --> 00:04:13,852 I saw what looked like a huge shadow hovering around him. 51 00:04:16,357 --> 00:04:18,223 It hovered for several seconds 52 00:04:18,225 --> 00:04:20,959 before it moved away from the wall. 53 00:04:20,961 --> 00:04:23,228 It was something very oppressive, like, 54 00:04:23,230 --> 00:04:25,664 oppressive-type of energy around him. 55 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:37,509 All the sudden, I see what looks like a silhouette of a man. 56 00:04:40,014 --> 00:04:41,947 Stacey. 57 00:04:46,754 --> 00:04:51,490 I don't think I really had a thought in me other than fear. 58 00:04:51,492 --> 00:04:53,625 I wasn't even thinking. 59 00:04:53,627 --> 00:04:57,029 I just knew I had to get out of there. 60 00:04:57,031 --> 00:04:58,463 You all right? 61 00:04:58,465 --> 00:05:01,466 My partner did not see what I saw in the room. 62 00:05:01,468 --> 00:05:04,002 My partner wasn't looking where I was looking, 63 00:05:04,004 --> 00:05:05,804 so he didn't see anything in the room. 64 00:05:05,806 --> 00:05:07,906 In fact, he was actually talking to the police 65 00:05:07,908 --> 00:05:10,409 that were coming in the building. 66 00:05:10,411 --> 00:05:14,913 I wonder what's wrong with her. 67 00:05:14,915 --> 00:05:19,217 I had no idea that I would experience what was coming next. 68 00:05:21,155 --> 00:05:24,589 You arrive home, and take me through what happens next. 69 00:05:24,591 --> 00:05:27,259 So, I arrived home, and I'm very intuitive. 70 00:05:27,261 --> 00:05:29,027 I can feel when something's around me, 71 00:05:29,029 --> 00:05:30,629 and I felt a heavy presence, 72 00:05:30,631 --> 00:05:33,231 which I had never felt in my own home. 73 00:05:37,905 --> 00:05:40,472 No one was there. 74 00:05:40,474 --> 00:05:42,641 No one else was at my house. 75 00:05:51,752 --> 00:05:54,152 The lamp that was sitting on the side of my bed 76 00:05:54,154 --> 00:05:56,755 was in the middle of my bed. 77 00:05:56,757 --> 00:05:58,190 It had been moved. 78 00:05:58,192 --> 00:06:00,659 The lamp had been moved to the middle of the bed. 79 00:06:24,485 --> 00:06:28,253 Stacey. 80 00:06:28,255 --> 00:06:30,288 I was terrified. 81 00:06:30,290 --> 00:06:32,657 I mean, terrified. 82 00:06:38,599 --> 00:06:41,700 I felt like something was hovering around me, 83 00:06:41,702 --> 00:06:44,403 almost like it was trying to cause fear. 84 00:06:46,807 --> 00:06:49,775 Stacey. 85 00:06:49,777 --> 00:06:52,411 I felt like whatever this was had followed me. 86 00:07:01,488 --> 00:07:03,722 Responding to a suicide shooting, 87 00:07:03,724 --> 00:07:05,724 veteran paramedic Stacey Hilton... 88 00:07:05,726 --> 00:07:07,526 Stacey. 89 00:07:07,528 --> 00:07:10,095 ...is followed home... 90 00:07:10,097 --> 00:07:13,432 by a mysterious figure. 91 00:07:13,434 --> 00:07:16,601 Whenever there's a severely emotional situation 92 00:07:16,603 --> 00:07:18,737 that's gone on, especially a traumatic incident 93 00:07:18,739 --> 00:07:22,474 like a suicide, you've got a lot of unresolved emotions 94 00:07:22,476 --> 00:07:24,509 that are just hanging in that space. 95 00:07:24,511 --> 00:07:26,545 In this case, it may have actually been 96 00:07:26,547 --> 00:07:28,513 a bit of a warning sign from the entity 97 00:07:28,515 --> 00:07:31,249 who was still possibly being territorial or protective 98 00:07:31,251 --> 00:07:33,318 over the space that it held. 99 00:07:36,957 --> 00:07:39,224 Incidents happened that evening -- 100 00:07:39,226 --> 00:07:42,461 doors opening and closing. 101 00:07:44,431 --> 00:07:50,936 I was wide-awake laying in bed by this "zzzzz." 102 00:07:50,938 --> 00:07:53,705 And then a few seconds later it's right in my ear 103 00:07:53,707 --> 00:07:55,974 and it whisks past me. 104 00:07:55,976 --> 00:07:58,543 Sometimes what we'll see in negative entity cases 105 00:07:58,545 --> 00:08:01,413 is that they will actually decide on some level, 106 00:08:01,415 --> 00:08:04,015 for whatever reason, to create a dynamic 107 00:08:04,017 --> 00:08:06,751 where it needs to be dominant over the person. 108 00:08:06,753 --> 00:08:08,320 I heard somebody come down in my ear 109 00:08:08,322 --> 00:08:10,422 and go, "Stacey! Stacey! Stacey!" 110 00:08:10,424 --> 00:08:13,692 It felt like all Hell broke loose at my house. 111 00:08:13,694 --> 00:08:15,093 This was every night. 112 00:08:15,095 --> 00:08:17,329 This wasn't one night, and it went away the next day. 113 00:08:17,331 --> 00:08:20,665 This was something that continued for months. 114 00:08:22,970 --> 00:08:27,205 I started having other experiences on other calls. 115 00:08:27,207 --> 00:08:29,074 Stacey. 116 00:08:29,076 --> 00:08:30,275 Stacey! 117 00:08:32,813 --> 00:08:34,813 Stacey! Stacey! 118 00:08:36,950 --> 00:08:38,750 Hello? 119 00:08:43,790 --> 00:08:47,192 I noticed a shadow moving through our ambulance. 120 00:08:55,769 --> 00:08:58,803 There's someone back there. 121 00:08:58,805 --> 00:09:00,438 What? 122 00:09:07,381 --> 00:09:09,581 There's no one in here. 123 00:09:11,785 --> 00:09:14,519 I can't go to work and talk about this because if I do, 124 00:09:14,521 --> 00:09:16,288 they're gonna put me in a psychiatric ward, 125 00:09:16,290 --> 00:09:19,991 you know, thinking that I'm crazy. 126 00:09:19,993 --> 00:09:22,093 There's no one in there. 127 00:09:32,439 --> 00:09:34,272 It felt very personal, 128 00:09:34,274 --> 00:09:38,410 and it got stronger and stronger, and it terrified me. 129 00:09:38,412 --> 00:09:40,912 I had this very oppressive feeling. 130 00:09:40,914 --> 00:09:43,882 I was scared. 131 00:09:43,884 --> 00:09:47,452 It feels to me that she had a malevolent entity there. 132 00:09:47,454 --> 00:09:49,421 Stacey. 133 00:09:49,423 --> 00:09:52,123 I thought I had some type of demon attachment, yes. 134 00:09:56,597 --> 00:09:58,330 At that point, I didn't even know what to do. 135 00:09:58,332 --> 00:10:00,498 I thought, you know, I need to pray. 136 00:10:00,500 --> 00:10:02,801 We get a situation where somebody is praying 137 00:10:02,803 --> 00:10:05,170 from a fearful state of being. 138 00:10:05,172 --> 00:10:08,073 That's not achieving the end game, which is to feel better, 139 00:10:08,075 --> 00:10:11,042 which, ultimately, is going to help you out 140 00:10:11,044 --> 00:10:13,511 on so many levels with paranormal activity. 141 00:10:13,513 --> 00:10:16,214 So, if you're praying, or you're attacking something 142 00:10:16,216 --> 00:10:19,718 from any sort of state of fear, that's never going to end well. 143 00:10:22,556 --> 00:10:26,124 It was messing with me in a way that wasn't just physical. 144 00:10:26,126 --> 00:10:28,593 I went into a major depression. 145 00:10:31,131 --> 00:10:34,332 It was horrible. 146 00:10:34,334 --> 00:10:37,402 I was actually suicidal. 147 00:10:37,404 --> 00:10:42,073 When we get people who are in extreme emotional distress 148 00:10:42,075 --> 00:10:44,142 and negativity such as depression, 149 00:10:44,144 --> 00:10:47,579 we often see this accompanied with negative entities 150 00:10:47,581 --> 00:10:50,682 that either seem to manifest from that emotional energy 151 00:10:50,684 --> 00:10:52,117 and from that depression, 152 00:10:52,119 --> 00:10:54,352 or it can be attracted in because of it. 153 00:10:54,354 --> 00:10:57,956 I felt like it all led back to this particular call. 154 00:10:57,958 --> 00:11:00,458 911, what is your emergency? 155 00:11:00,460 --> 00:11:01,993 It's my father! 156 00:11:01,995 --> 00:11:04,329 He's not picking up, and he's alone. 157 00:11:04,331 --> 00:11:05,697 It can't be real. 158 00:11:05,699 --> 00:11:09,567 He just felt so low and so helpless and depressed, 159 00:11:09,569 --> 00:11:12,604 and I'm sure he had no idea he had an entity attachment. 160 00:11:12,606 --> 00:11:14,039 Gabby. 161 00:11:14,041 --> 00:11:15,707 What do you want?! 162 00:11:18,812 --> 00:11:22,147 I feel like it was this darker energy around him 163 00:11:22,149 --> 00:11:24,082 that led to his suicide. 164 00:11:27,254 --> 00:11:31,322 This negative entity was spawned from the depression, 165 00:11:31,324 --> 00:11:35,960 and probably existed in its own state of intelligence apart 166 00:11:35,962 --> 00:11:39,631 from the man who had killed himself. 167 00:11:44,471 --> 00:11:48,540 The reason why this demon, or this dark entity, 168 00:11:48,542 --> 00:11:52,644 attached itself to you -- Why do you think that is? 169 00:11:52,646 --> 00:11:55,213 I'm not sure if it's that the entity wanted me 170 00:11:55,215 --> 00:11:56,748 to commit suicide. 171 00:11:56,750 --> 00:12:00,251 I don't feel that way, because I feel like what would it do? 172 00:12:00,253 --> 00:12:05,090 It just needs me in a constant fearful state. 173 00:12:05,092 --> 00:12:07,025 And I reached out to some friends and I said, 174 00:12:07,027 --> 00:12:09,294 "I don't know what to do. I need help." 175 00:12:09,296 --> 00:12:13,331 So, I ended up learning about some energy workers 176 00:12:13,333 --> 00:12:15,233 that work in the energy field, 177 00:12:15,235 --> 00:12:18,369 not just the physical body but work in the energy field, 178 00:12:18,371 --> 00:12:21,306 and I had several energy sessions, 179 00:12:21,308 --> 00:12:23,975 and then I was led to a shaman. 180 00:12:30,317 --> 00:12:32,450 He just said, "Lay down. Close your eyes. 181 00:12:32,452 --> 00:12:34,085 I'm going to be working around your body. 182 00:12:34,087 --> 00:12:35,720 I won't touch your body." 183 00:12:47,267 --> 00:12:50,135 Stacey. 184 00:12:50,137 --> 00:12:52,771 Stacey. 185 00:13:20,367 --> 00:13:22,367 A bad spirit was taking over you. 186 00:13:22,369 --> 00:13:26,070 He said, "I removed several things from you." 187 00:13:26,072 --> 00:13:27,472 It was draining your energy. 188 00:13:27,474 --> 00:13:30,008 He was absolutely right. 189 00:13:30,010 --> 00:13:33,411 Everything calmed down. 190 00:13:33,413 --> 00:13:36,648 And, you know, I just spent hours on my knees saying, 191 00:13:36,650 --> 00:13:38,249 "Thank you, God, for helping, 192 00:13:38,251 --> 00:13:40,985 for sending me to the right person." 193 00:13:40,987 --> 00:13:42,554 Yes, he's not well. 194 00:13:42,556 --> 00:13:44,656 What's the location of the emergency? 195 00:13:44,658 --> 00:13:46,057 He's in the industrial park. 196 00:13:46,059 --> 00:13:48,059 He's alone there in the East Parrish. 197 00:14:31,638 --> 00:14:35,106 Sent to investigate a possible school break-in 198 00:14:35,108 --> 00:14:38,309 is security officer Chris Sensicle, 199 00:14:38,311 --> 00:14:40,745 a 20-year veteran who's responsible 200 00:14:40,747 --> 00:14:43,147 for protecting more than 700 schools 201 00:14:43,149 --> 00:14:46,184 and facilities throughout the city. 202 00:14:46,186 --> 00:14:48,786 My primary job would be for alarm response, 203 00:14:48,788 --> 00:14:52,991 to schools that had a burglar alarm or an intrusion alarm. 204 00:14:55,128 --> 00:14:58,830 So, I decided to pull in and do a proactive patrol. 205 00:15:02,802 --> 00:15:05,470 This is a two-story school facility. 206 00:15:05,472 --> 00:15:08,206 I noticed an open window. 207 00:15:11,945 --> 00:15:13,344 So, I have to be on alert 208 00:15:13,346 --> 00:15:17,649 that there could be a person inside the building. 209 00:15:17,651 --> 00:15:20,351 The school is often the target of street gangs 210 00:15:20,353 --> 00:15:25,189 and desperate drug addicts out to steal whatever they can get. 211 00:15:34,901 --> 00:15:37,635 This school board is third-largest in North America, 212 00:15:37,637 --> 00:15:40,204 second only to Chicago and Los Angeles. 213 00:15:40,206 --> 00:15:43,541 With any urban city, you're going to get pockets of crime. 214 00:15:43,543 --> 00:15:46,110 The officer knows that just because the alarm 215 00:15:46,112 --> 00:15:50,648 didn't go off doesn't mean there's no intruder. 216 00:15:52,986 --> 00:15:57,255 Technology can fail, so I have to be on high alert. 217 00:15:57,257 --> 00:16:01,092 As per protocol, the security officer is trained 218 00:16:01,094 --> 00:16:04,729 to call in at the first sign of danger. 219 00:16:04,731 --> 00:16:08,066 We were issued with handcuffs and expandable batons, 220 00:16:08,068 --> 00:16:13,237 and we wore protective vests in case we were attacked. 221 00:16:13,239 --> 00:16:16,641 So, I'd been to this school several times before, 222 00:16:16,643 --> 00:16:19,243 and I was fairly familiar with the layout of the school, 223 00:16:19,245 --> 00:16:20,912 but I really had no idea 224 00:16:20,914 --> 00:16:23,281 what was waiting for me inside the school. 225 00:16:23,283 --> 00:16:27,385 A school with a dark history. 226 00:16:27,387 --> 00:16:31,155 There had been a massive hurricane back in the '50s. 227 00:16:34,761 --> 00:16:38,296 There was a massive loss of life. 228 00:16:38,298 --> 00:16:41,098 There was, you know, a factor of creepiness 229 00:16:41,100 --> 00:16:43,301 going into that school facility. 230 00:16:49,542 --> 00:16:52,377 To gain access to the classroom, 231 00:16:52,379 --> 00:16:55,446 the officer first needs to get master keys 232 00:16:55,448 --> 00:16:58,383 from the mechanical room. 233 00:16:58,385 --> 00:17:00,218 So, I have to be on alert 234 00:17:00,220 --> 00:17:04,188 and always listening for any potential sounds 235 00:17:04,190 --> 00:17:06,824 that might give away an intruder. 236 00:17:12,065 --> 00:17:16,100 My first instinct is to lower the volume on my two-way radio 237 00:17:16,102 --> 00:17:20,605 so that I could have some degree of sneakiness and stealth. 238 00:17:20,607 --> 00:17:23,274 I would also hold tightly to the key 239 00:17:23,276 --> 00:17:26,010 so they wouldn't be jingling when I walked. 240 00:17:39,159 --> 00:17:43,694 It was at that point that I thought I heard footsteps 241 00:17:43,696 --> 00:17:48,933 on the upper level of the school directly above me. 242 00:17:56,676 --> 00:17:58,309 As I'm walking through the school, 243 00:17:58,311 --> 00:18:00,344 I realize that there could be an ambush, 244 00:18:00,346 --> 00:18:04,549 and it could be a dangerous situation for any responder. 245 00:18:09,823 --> 00:18:13,858 And at that point, I checked the classrooms on the second floor, 246 00:18:13,860 --> 00:18:15,793 looking for any signs of intrusion, 247 00:18:15,795 --> 00:18:18,629 any signs of any activity at all. 248 00:18:23,570 --> 00:18:25,770 Everything was secure. 249 00:18:28,641 --> 00:18:31,275 The one door that isn't secured 250 00:18:31,277 --> 00:18:35,613 is the one that leads into the classroom with the open window. 251 00:18:38,017 --> 00:18:41,252 There is no signs of forced entry in the classroom. 252 00:18:41,254 --> 00:18:44,055 There is no signs of vandalism, nothing knocked over, 253 00:18:44,057 --> 00:18:45,957 nothing immediately out of place, 254 00:18:45,959 --> 00:18:47,959 nothing that would suggest that anything illicit 255 00:18:47,961 --> 00:18:50,027 had happened in that building. 256 00:18:55,368 --> 00:18:56,934 And that's when I heard something 257 00:18:56,936 --> 00:18:58,970 that chilled me to the bone. 258 00:19:03,710 --> 00:19:08,713 It sounded like a young woman, maybe in her teens or 20s. 259 00:19:16,422 --> 00:19:18,189 I started hearing the footsteps again. 260 00:19:18,191 --> 00:19:20,591 The sound of creaking wood. 261 00:19:22,896 --> 00:19:25,897 Way too heavy to be a raccoon or a squirrel 262 00:19:25,899 --> 00:19:27,465 or anything small animal. 263 00:19:27,467 --> 00:19:30,201 Definitely human-sized. 264 00:19:55,895 --> 00:19:57,995 There is no one there. 265 00:19:57,997 --> 00:19:59,964 I didn't know what to make of it. 266 00:19:59,966 --> 00:20:01,499 There was no one physically there. 267 00:20:01,501 --> 00:20:04,001 You're hesitating using the word "ghost," 268 00:20:04,003 --> 00:20:07,171 but that's what you're talking about. 269 00:20:07,173 --> 00:20:10,575 I guess that's what was I was talking about. 270 00:20:10,577 --> 00:20:13,477 I was absolutely terrified. 271 00:20:24,090 --> 00:20:26,991 While investigating a possible school break-in... 272 00:20:28,995 --> 00:20:31,262 ...security officer Chris Sensicle 273 00:20:31,264 --> 00:20:35,333 is forced to believe he may be dealing with the paranormal. 274 00:20:38,905 --> 00:20:41,639 I don't know what this is, but there was no one else 275 00:20:41,641 --> 00:20:45,042 in that building with me in the physical sense. 276 00:20:45,044 --> 00:20:48,546 When you're experiencing things moving 277 00:20:48,548 --> 00:20:51,782 during a paranormal event, such as something being thrown, 278 00:20:51,784 --> 00:20:54,318 people do feel targeted by that, 279 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,120 and it's often hard to understand 280 00:20:56,122 --> 00:20:59,557 what the intent behind it is. 281 00:20:59,559 --> 00:21:02,560 For a ghost to move something of physical mass 282 00:21:02,562 --> 00:21:06,464 and put the amount of energy to focus on that particular item 283 00:21:06,466 --> 00:21:08,399 means that they have a certain intent 284 00:21:08,401 --> 00:21:10,001 behind what they're doing. 285 00:21:10,003 --> 00:21:18,542 The question is what is that intent. 286 00:21:18,544 --> 00:21:20,978 I heard what sounded like footsteps -- 287 00:21:20,980 --> 00:21:26,117 Definitely only one set, and it was moving fairly slow. 288 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:30,655 Phantom footsteps are one of the most occurring phenomena 289 00:21:30,657 --> 00:21:34,325 that people hear during a haunting. 290 00:21:34,327 --> 00:21:36,727 These are audible sounds 291 00:21:36,729 --> 00:21:40,865 that people will pick up during a manifestation of a spirit, 292 00:21:40,867 --> 00:21:45,436 or sometimes people can pick these up on a psychic level. 293 00:21:45,438 --> 00:21:48,706 The footsteps lead him back to the classroom 294 00:21:48,708 --> 00:21:51,942 with the open window. 295 00:21:51,944 --> 00:21:54,612 The window was open again. 296 00:21:54,614 --> 00:21:58,949 It could have been any number of things in the rational mind. 297 00:21:58,951 --> 00:22:02,019 Maybe it was a school child playing a prank. 298 00:22:02,021 --> 00:22:03,587 Far-fetched as that sounds, 299 00:22:03,589 --> 00:22:06,257 your rational brain takes over, and you try to make up excuses 300 00:22:06,259 --> 00:22:09,160 as to why things are the way they are. 301 00:22:23,676 --> 00:22:28,079 The room is hit by hurricane-like winds. 302 00:22:57,710 --> 00:23:02,813 He considers calling for backup, but what would he say? 303 00:23:02,815 --> 00:23:05,883 At that point, I made my way back into the boiler room 304 00:23:05,885 --> 00:23:08,252 to replace the keys in the lockbox. 305 00:23:08,254 --> 00:23:12,490 I wanted to get there as soon as possible. 306 00:23:12,492 --> 00:23:15,159 When I got inside the boiler room, the lights were off, 307 00:23:15,161 --> 00:23:17,762 and I remember distinctly leaving them on. 308 00:23:21,901 --> 00:23:23,834 At that point, my mind was racing. 309 00:23:23,836 --> 00:23:27,304 I thought there could be someone else in that room. 310 00:23:27,306 --> 00:23:30,775 I made my way back to where the lockbox is. 311 00:23:30,777 --> 00:23:32,376 It was how I had left it, 312 00:23:32,378 --> 00:23:36,046 and the padlock was kind of resting on the hasp. 313 00:23:47,727 --> 00:23:50,327 Suddenly, the padlock just flew across the floor. 314 00:23:50,329 --> 00:23:53,864 It was almost like someone had hit the padlock 315 00:23:53,866 --> 00:23:56,400 and it skidded across the pavement. 316 00:23:56,402 --> 00:24:01,138 I got the sense that it was an overt act. 317 00:24:01,140 --> 00:24:04,508 Typically when we find that things are thrown people, 318 00:24:04,510 --> 00:24:08,546 it's generally some type of warning. 319 00:24:08,548 --> 00:24:10,781 This is beyond the scope of my training, 320 00:24:10,783 --> 00:24:14,051 and beyond what I should be dealing with. 321 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,093 What scared me worse was I started 322 00:24:23,095 --> 00:24:24,462 hearing the footsteps again 323 00:24:24,464 --> 00:24:26,864 on the second floor of the building. 324 00:24:32,472 --> 00:24:34,605 I exited the building... 325 00:24:38,177 --> 00:24:41,312 ...and got back to my vehicle. 326 00:24:49,856 --> 00:24:53,757 I never mentioned this to any of my colleagues or supervisors. 327 00:24:53,759 --> 00:24:55,059 Why? 328 00:24:55,061 --> 00:24:58,829 It gets back to the whole ridicule thing, 329 00:24:58,831 --> 00:25:01,699 and who would believe me? 330 00:25:01,701 --> 00:25:04,902 But it starts all over again six months later. 331 00:25:04,904 --> 00:25:06,637 Approximately, yeah. 332 00:25:06,639 --> 00:25:09,907 Officer Sensicle gets an emergency call 333 00:25:09,909 --> 00:25:11,942 to the same school. 334 00:25:11,944 --> 00:25:15,179 Alarm activation -- 462 Elm Street, East Entrance. 335 00:25:15,181 --> 00:25:17,715 All the alarm company had told me is 336 00:25:17,717 --> 00:25:21,118 that they had an unknown sound or unknown noise 337 00:25:21,120 --> 00:25:23,320 occurring inside the school facility, 338 00:25:23,322 --> 00:25:25,155 and I was dispatched to investigate. 339 00:25:25,157 --> 00:25:28,259 With his last visit still fresh in his mind, 340 00:25:28,261 --> 00:25:31,295 Officer Sensicle is less than enthusiastic 341 00:25:31,297 --> 00:25:33,931 about going back inside the school, 342 00:25:33,933 --> 00:25:37,434 which has since installed a high-tech alarm system. 343 00:25:37,436 --> 00:25:39,770 So, this particular alarm system 344 00:25:39,772 --> 00:25:44,008 works differently than, say, a burglar alarm system. 345 00:25:44,010 --> 00:25:47,478 This one had microphones placed all the way around the school, 346 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:51,415 and the Central Station Security Monitoring Company 347 00:25:51,417 --> 00:25:54,518 would listen in actively to the school, 348 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:58,556 and if any sounds of broken glass or voices 349 00:25:58,558 --> 00:26:01,325 or anything that was out of the ordinary came in, 350 00:26:01,327 --> 00:26:03,894 they would be able to say which part of the school 351 00:26:03,896 --> 00:26:06,764 was picking up the noise. 352 00:26:06,766 --> 00:26:10,901 They were able to determine that the microphone 353 00:26:10,903 --> 00:26:13,137 that was picking up the noise 354 00:26:13,139 --> 00:26:16,540 was from the auditorium part of the school. 355 00:26:22,949 --> 00:26:29,053 I didn't hear a sound other than the sounds I made from myself. 356 00:26:29,055 --> 00:26:31,088 At this point, I've got no other reason to think 357 00:26:31,090 --> 00:26:34,124 that maybe the technology has failed. 358 00:26:34,126 --> 00:26:38,629 Maybe they're picking up sounds from another property. 359 00:26:38,631 --> 00:26:40,998 Could even have been someone walking on the outside 360 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:42,733 being noisy that tripped the sensor, 361 00:26:42,735 --> 00:26:45,869 but there's nothing happening inside the school. 362 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:54,044 Hello?! 363 00:26:54,046 --> 00:26:55,746 This is dispatch. 364 00:26:55,748 --> 00:26:57,214 Are you okay, Chris? 365 00:26:57,216 --> 00:27:00,818 All of a sudden, my two-way radio starts going crazy, 366 00:27:00,820 --> 00:27:03,454 and my dispatcher is calling me. 367 00:27:03,456 --> 00:27:05,255 I'm, uh -- I'm fine. 368 00:27:05,257 --> 00:27:08,692 The tone of his voice is panicked, almost. 369 00:27:08,694 --> 00:27:10,060 Hang tight, Chris. 370 00:27:10,062 --> 00:27:12,262 Police have been dispatched to your location. 371 00:27:12,264 --> 00:27:15,532 Why? What's the problem? 372 00:27:15,534 --> 00:27:17,101 I was just about to clear the building. 373 00:27:17,103 --> 00:27:20,304 I was confused. Why were the police coming? 374 00:27:20,306 --> 00:27:23,273 I told the dispatcher to cancel the police. 375 00:27:23,275 --> 00:27:24,708 I didn't want the police. 376 00:27:24,710 --> 00:27:27,578 There was no reason for the police to be involved. 377 00:27:27,580 --> 00:27:29,880 What's all the screaming about? 378 00:27:29,882 --> 00:27:31,215 Screaming? 379 00:27:31,217 --> 00:27:33,917 The dispatcher told me the Monitoring Center 380 00:27:33,919 --> 00:27:38,155 was actively listening into my progress 381 00:27:38,157 --> 00:27:41,892 walking through the school and heard a woman 382 00:27:41,894 --> 00:27:43,761 screaming for help. You can't hear that? 383 00:27:43,763 --> 00:27:45,629 Can you patch it through to your mic? 384 00:27:45,631 --> 00:27:47,965 Dispatch plays back the recording 385 00:27:47,967 --> 00:27:52,302 of what they've been hearing through the officer's radio. 386 00:27:55,174 --> 00:27:58,442 I could hear what I would describe 387 00:27:58,444 --> 00:28:00,778 as a young woman screaming for help. 388 00:28:03,749 --> 00:28:05,749 Please help me! Please help me! Please! 389 00:28:05,751 --> 00:28:10,287 What I heard was "Help me" and unintelligible screaming -- 390 00:28:10,289 --> 00:28:12,256 Frantic, panicked screaming. 391 00:28:12,258 --> 00:28:15,993 Please help me! Please! 392 00:28:15,995 --> 00:28:19,430 Dispatch. Dispatch, come back. Please. 393 00:28:19,432 --> 00:28:21,598 This woman was screaming for help, 394 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,134 imploring someone to please come and help her. 395 00:28:24,136 --> 00:28:27,004 Hello?! 396 00:28:27,006 --> 00:28:29,206 Dispatch! 397 00:28:29,208 --> 00:28:31,308 Please help me. Please. Please help me. 398 00:28:31,310 --> 00:28:32,609 That's got to be 399 00:28:32,611 --> 00:28:34,211 one of the most terrifying things I've ever heard. 400 00:28:43,489 --> 00:28:45,189 On his second emergency call 401 00:28:45,191 --> 00:28:47,458 to the same school, security officer 402 00:28:47,460 --> 00:28:51,462 Chris Sensicle is shocked when he hears the troubled voice 403 00:28:51,464 --> 00:28:54,865 of a woman who is nowhere to be found. 404 00:29:00,673 --> 00:29:05,175 To hear this woman screaming and even the echoing, 405 00:29:05,177 --> 00:29:06,777 the acoustics of the screaming 406 00:29:06,779 --> 00:29:10,781 in the hallways was downright chilling. 407 00:29:10,783 --> 00:29:12,116 Please! Please help me! 408 00:29:12,118 --> 00:29:17,054 Hello? Dispatch. Dispatch, come back, please! 409 00:29:19,492 --> 00:29:22,793 This particular case sounds like a residual haunting. 410 00:29:22,795 --> 00:29:24,862 It's an echo of the past. 411 00:29:24,864 --> 00:29:28,265 It's a sound that's embedded in the environment 412 00:29:28,267 --> 00:29:30,901 that recording equipment can pick up 413 00:29:30,903 --> 00:29:32,836 if present there and recording there at the time. 414 00:29:32,838 --> 00:29:34,972 I'm sure that there was no one 415 00:29:34,974 --> 00:29:37,274 physically inside that school with me. 416 00:29:37,276 --> 00:29:39,076 I was alone. 417 00:29:39,078 --> 00:29:41,311 Hello?! 418 00:29:41,313 --> 00:29:43,747 Dispatch! 419 00:29:43,749 --> 00:29:47,684 It's almost as if these people died with such trauma 420 00:29:47,686 --> 00:29:50,988 and such an emotional impact that they're stuck. 421 00:29:50,990 --> 00:29:54,291 There's something traumatic holding them there. 422 00:29:54,293 --> 00:29:57,361 And either they don't realize they're dead 423 00:29:57,363 --> 00:30:00,531 or they're not ready to move on, 424 00:30:00,533 --> 00:30:04,034 or they're stuck with the ongoing event in their mind, 425 00:30:04,036 --> 00:30:05,636 and their unable to break themselves 426 00:30:05,638 --> 00:30:07,604 from the location that they're in. 427 00:30:07,606 --> 00:30:10,407 Please! Please help me! 428 00:30:10,409 --> 00:30:12,009 Please! Please! 429 00:30:13,913 --> 00:30:15,779 I was very -- 430 00:30:15,781 --> 00:30:18,549 overwhelmed is not the right word. 431 00:30:18,551 --> 00:30:20,751 That feeling that you get when the hairs 432 00:30:20,753 --> 00:30:23,020 on the back of your neck rise. 433 00:30:45,044 --> 00:30:48,278 I wanted nothing more than to get out of that building 434 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,148 and lock it up and be done with it. 435 00:30:57,323 --> 00:31:00,157 It is a sadness that, you know, 436 00:31:00,159 --> 00:31:04,294 someone, 70 or 80 years later, they're still suffering, 437 00:31:04,296 --> 00:31:08,832 or they're still imprinted in that building. 438 00:31:08,834 --> 00:31:12,736 A lot of times, if a spirit needs help, 439 00:31:12,738 --> 00:31:15,873 they will try to communicate the tragedy. 440 00:31:15,875 --> 00:31:18,575 They want people to understand why they died 441 00:31:18,577 --> 00:31:22,446 and hopefully get that person to help them, 442 00:31:22,448 --> 00:31:24,081 you know, move on as a spirit. 443 00:31:24,083 --> 00:31:25,983 Base to 5. Base to 5. 444 00:31:25,985 --> 00:31:29,019 Can you get back inside, 5? Can you return, 5? 445 00:31:29,021 --> 00:31:30,687 I was asked whether or not 446 00:31:30,689 --> 00:31:33,657 I wanted to go back inside, and I declined. 447 00:31:33,659 --> 00:31:36,727 I didn't think I wanted to go back inside. 448 00:31:36,729 --> 00:31:38,795 Why? 449 00:31:38,797 --> 00:31:41,131 The logical part of my brain said 450 00:31:41,133 --> 00:31:43,100 that I had already patrolled the inside, 451 00:31:43,102 --> 00:31:44,835 and everything was secure inside there. 452 00:31:44,837 --> 00:31:46,837 There was no reason to re-check it. 453 00:31:46,839 --> 00:31:50,040 But deep down, I guess I thought 454 00:31:50,042 --> 00:31:52,309 that if there was a ghost in there, 455 00:31:52,311 --> 00:31:53,944 I didn't want anything to do with it. 456 00:31:56,015 --> 00:31:59,750 This wasn't just a place for survivors of the hurricane. 457 00:31:59,752 --> 00:32:03,620 It was a place for the dead. 458 00:32:03,622 --> 00:32:06,256 When I'd looked into it after the fact, 459 00:32:06,258 --> 00:32:10,761 I found out that the auditorium was used as a temporary morgue 460 00:32:10,763 --> 00:32:14,197 during the massive hurricane in Toronto. 461 00:32:16,702 --> 00:32:21,204 With that revelation that I was now walking through 462 00:32:21,206 --> 00:32:25,242 a potential graveyard of lost souls, 463 00:32:25,244 --> 00:32:30,047 I guess it makes a lot of sense that I could've been haunted 464 00:32:30,049 --> 00:32:32,549 or imprinted on by someone 465 00:32:32,551 --> 00:32:34,918 who had lost their life during that event. 466 00:32:39,825 --> 00:32:42,159 A lot of times if a spirit needs help, 467 00:32:42,161 --> 00:32:46,997 they will try to communicate the tragedy. 468 00:32:46,999 --> 00:32:49,700 They want people to understand why they died 469 00:32:49,702 --> 00:32:52,936 and hopefully get that person to help them, 470 00:32:52,938 --> 00:32:55,205 you know, move on as a spirit. 471 00:33:02,881 --> 00:33:05,015 I've always been a very logical person 472 00:33:05,017 --> 00:33:10,520 that would want to get the facts before I make a decision up, 473 00:33:10,522 --> 00:33:13,523 but based on what happened to me on those nights, 474 00:33:13,525 --> 00:33:17,995 I believe these is more to the world than what we see. 475 00:33:17,997 --> 00:33:21,331 I'm a believer now. 476 00:33:39,451 --> 00:33:42,452 911, please state your emergency. 477 00:33:59,705 --> 00:34:04,474 Responding to a 911 call of a possible assault 478 00:34:04,476 --> 00:34:09,780 is ex-soldier and certified EMT Patrick Newcomb and his partner. 479 00:34:09,782 --> 00:34:12,916 I was working in central Texas in a very large city. 480 00:34:12,918 --> 00:34:15,419 We just dropped of a patient at the hospital, 481 00:34:15,421 --> 00:34:19,222 and they dispatched us on another 911 call for an assault. 482 00:34:19,224 --> 00:34:22,192 Someone could actually be dying. 483 00:34:22,194 --> 00:34:24,394 The scene of the crime is the parking lot 484 00:34:24,396 --> 00:34:27,798 of a recently abandoned hospital. 485 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,568 The hospital has been shut down for a couple months already. 486 00:34:31,570 --> 00:34:34,204 They basically used the hospital just for training. 487 00:34:34,206 --> 00:34:36,940 With San Antonio being one of the worst cities 488 00:34:36,942 --> 00:34:43,413 in the U.S. for serious crimes, the building is heavily secured. 489 00:34:43,415 --> 00:34:46,817 The police do keep the hospital locked up, you know, 490 00:34:46,819 --> 00:34:48,318 and they check on it nightly. 491 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,320 But as far as a victim goes, 492 00:34:50,322 --> 00:34:54,658 there's no sign of one anywhere, suggesting a prank. 493 00:34:54,660 --> 00:34:58,528 False calls usually happen 5 out of 10 calls. 494 00:34:58,530 --> 00:35:00,063 You know, it's taking people 495 00:35:00,065 --> 00:35:02,132 that actually need an ambulance out of the service. 496 00:35:05,170 --> 00:35:07,971 But what is much, much harder to explain 497 00:35:07,973 --> 00:35:11,942 is why the door is suddenly unlocked. 498 00:35:17,015 --> 00:35:20,617 Patrick. 499 00:35:20,619 --> 00:35:22,385 The doors were wide open. 500 00:35:22,387 --> 00:35:25,655 That freaked me out, and I didn't know what to think. 501 00:35:27,826 --> 00:35:30,460 Despite the sudden mystery, 502 00:35:30,462 --> 00:35:32,496 Patrick decides to go in, 503 00:35:32,498 --> 00:35:36,133 still on the lookout for his assault victim. 504 00:35:39,371 --> 00:35:42,939 If I would've known what I was about to see there, 505 00:35:42,941 --> 00:35:44,841 I would've never gone. 506 00:35:44,843 --> 00:35:47,811 911, is rescue needed? 507 00:35:47,813 --> 00:35:50,213 If you can hear me, press a button on your phone. 508 00:35:58,023 --> 00:35:59,756 Responding to a 911 call of an assault 509 00:35:59,758 --> 00:36:02,159 outside an abandoned hospital, 510 00:36:02,161 --> 00:36:05,162 Texas EMTs Patrick Newcomb and his partner 511 00:36:05,164 --> 00:36:09,833 find no trace of a crime, only a bizarre mystery. 512 00:36:12,404 --> 00:36:15,805 Still searching for a possible victim, 513 00:36:15,807 --> 00:36:19,742 they head into the dark building, 514 00:36:19,744 --> 00:36:23,680 built over what was once a Civil War hospital. 515 00:36:27,252 --> 00:36:29,553 You can imagine the wounded soldiers 516 00:36:29,555 --> 00:36:31,555 and the death that, you know, 517 00:36:31,557 --> 00:36:34,291 was part of that hospital back then. 518 00:36:34,293 --> 00:36:37,194 For those who most recently worked here, 519 00:36:37,196 --> 00:36:40,230 the place was believed to be haunted. 520 00:36:40,232 --> 00:36:42,299 I've asked a lot of the nurses that used to work 521 00:36:42,301 --> 00:36:44,401 at that hospital about the history, 522 00:36:44,403 --> 00:36:47,170 and they said on a daily basis 523 00:36:47,172 --> 00:36:49,706 they would see Civil War soldiers, 524 00:36:49,708 --> 00:36:51,808 Vietnam Soldiers walking down the hallway, 525 00:36:51,810 --> 00:36:53,643 and they would say, "Hey, sir. Sir, you can't go in there," 526 00:36:53,645 --> 00:36:56,246 and this person would just disappear. 527 00:37:07,559 --> 00:37:09,926 Entities seem to be able, on the whole, 528 00:37:09,928 --> 00:37:11,661 to be able to manipulate their environment, 529 00:37:11,663 --> 00:37:14,965 including moving extremely heavy pieces of furniture, 530 00:37:14,967 --> 00:37:18,602 heavy objects, and things like that. 531 00:37:18,604 --> 00:37:20,804 But as an Army veteran, 532 00:37:20,806 --> 00:37:25,375 Patrick is not the type to frighten easily. 533 00:37:25,377 --> 00:37:27,844 I've served in Iraq, and I've seen a lot of things -- 534 00:37:27,846 --> 00:37:32,749 people blown up, shot, you name it. 535 00:37:32,751 --> 00:37:34,017 Just bad stuff. 536 00:37:40,025 --> 00:37:43,193 With no clear plan, they head down to the basement, 537 00:37:43,195 --> 00:37:46,029 toward the oldest section of the building... 538 00:37:51,403 --> 00:37:55,005 ...where visibility is nearly zero. 539 00:37:55,007 --> 00:37:58,975 It was just, like, a black brick wall. 540 00:37:58,977 --> 00:38:01,211 I couldn't see anything. 541 00:38:08,086 --> 00:38:11,488 They reach a cold chamber in what used to be 542 00:38:11,490 --> 00:38:14,291 the old Civil War hospital's morgue... 543 00:38:18,764 --> 00:38:22,299 ...which, according to what they know about the building, 544 00:38:22,301 --> 00:38:25,502 should be completely empty. 545 00:38:28,974 --> 00:38:30,840 That kind of freaked me out right there. 546 00:38:30,842 --> 00:38:35,078 He has no idea where the bodies have come from. 547 00:38:41,386 --> 00:38:43,453 Suddenly, there was somebody standing there 548 00:38:43,455 --> 00:38:48,558 beside the door -- a huge figure, about 8-foot tall. 549 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,961 There was no face. It was just a blank, white -- 550 00:38:51,963 --> 00:38:55,465 I don't know what you want to call it. 551 00:38:55,467 --> 00:38:57,067 And that scared the **** out of me, 552 00:38:57,069 --> 00:39:01,037 and I was basically frozen. 553 00:39:04,476 --> 00:39:07,210 The only thing that ran through my mind was 554 00:39:07,212 --> 00:39:09,312 it's the Grim Reaper. 555 00:39:13,085 --> 00:39:15,418 Patrick. 556 00:39:15,420 --> 00:39:17,153 I wanted the **** out of there. 557 00:39:17,155 --> 00:39:19,422 Patrick. 558 00:39:19,424 --> 00:39:23,059 In paranormal lore, the Grim Reaper is an entity 559 00:39:23,061 --> 00:39:26,596 that comes to get you because you're about to die. 560 00:39:30,736 --> 00:39:33,570 Patrick's reaction is normal for somebody 561 00:39:33,572 --> 00:39:36,573 who is facing something that may be there to hurt him. 562 00:39:36,575 --> 00:39:38,575 Patrick. 563 00:39:38,577 --> 00:39:44,681 A dark entity, unhindered by time or space. 564 00:39:48,487 --> 00:39:52,389 This is a fear on a level that I can't even explain. 565 00:39:55,594 --> 00:39:57,994 I've seen people dying in my arms. 566 00:40:01,266 --> 00:40:02,966 To me, this situation was 567 00:40:02,968 --> 00:40:05,435 the most terrifying situation I've been in. 568 00:40:08,039 --> 00:40:10,206 Patrick's got a military background, 569 00:40:10,208 --> 00:40:12,776 and he's trained to protect those around him. 570 00:40:12,778 --> 00:40:16,446 So, he did what any person would do in this situation, 571 00:40:16,448 --> 00:40:18,381 which is to get out of there as fast as possible. 572 00:40:18,383 --> 00:40:20,350 This thing comes after people. 573 00:40:20,352 --> 00:40:23,820 I didn't want to die, so I got the hell out of there. 574 00:40:23,822 --> 00:40:26,289 Just, boom. I'm gone. 575 00:40:30,228 --> 00:40:36,499 It's possible that it was coming for me, or maybe my partner. 576 00:40:36,501 --> 00:40:39,636 I wanted to put as much distance between the hospital 577 00:40:39,638 --> 00:40:41,571 and my ambulance as possible. 578 00:40:41,573 --> 00:40:43,139 Just floored it. 579 00:40:47,179 --> 00:40:50,847 Automatically, we called dispatch to radio the police. 580 00:40:50,849 --> 00:40:53,116 "Hey, somebody broke into the old hospital. 581 00:40:53,118 --> 00:40:55,084 Get them out there to see 582 00:40:55,086 --> 00:40:57,020 exactly what they're going to find." 583 00:40:57,022 --> 00:40:58,621 I didn't tell them what I saw 584 00:40:58,623 --> 00:41:02,192 just because I didn't want them to think I was crazy. 585 00:41:02,194 --> 00:41:08,264 As the EMTs speed away, they make a secret vow of silence. 586 00:41:08,266 --> 00:41:10,366 We didn't talk about it at all. 587 00:41:10,368 --> 00:41:13,136 It was just, like, we left it alone 588 00:41:13,138 --> 00:41:15,972 and we both wanted to basically forget about it. 589 00:41:15,974 --> 00:41:17,941 You know, "Hey, this did not happen." 590 00:41:17,943 --> 00:41:19,976 When police later arrive 591 00:41:19,978 --> 00:41:23,079 at the abandoned hospital, the doors are chained 592 00:41:23,081 --> 00:41:27,083 and padlocked as per usual. 593 00:41:27,085 --> 00:41:30,153 When they came back and said, "There's nobody there. 594 00:41:30,155 --> 00:41:31,921 Everything's locked up and chained," 595 00:41:31,923 --> 00:41:34,991 I didn't know what to think. 596 00:41:34,993 --> 00:41:36,726 I'm very convinced of what I saw. 597 00:41:36,728 --> 00:41:40,463 I mean, my partner's seen the same exact thing as I saw. 598 00:41:40,465 --> 00:41:45,802 It's not possible we both, you know, imagined...this thing. 599 00:41:45,804 --> 00:41:48,738 Now, before this took place, I was a total skeptic. 600 00:41:48,740 --> 00:41:50,573 I didn't believe in any paranormal. 601 00:41:50,575 --> 00:41:51,975 I was like, "Eh, it's all a joke. 602 00:41:51,977 --> 00:41:53,710 It's all made up." 603 00:41:53,712 --> 00:41:55,445 After that, I was -- 604 00:41:55,447 --> 00:41:58,014 I mean, there's no way to tell me anything different. 605 00:41:58,016 --> 00:42:00,783 You know, I know what I've seen. 606 00:42:00,785 --> 00:42:03,753 For weeks after that, I was very careful 607 00:42:03,755 --> 00:42:06,890 because I'm thinking to myself, "I've just seen the Grim Reaper, 608 00:42:06,892 --> 00:42:09,893 and it's going to get me," you know? 609 00:42:09,895 --> 00:42:11,194 "Something's going to happen to me." 610 00:42:11,196 --> 00:42:14,497 So, I was basically watching every step that I took 611 00:42:14,499 --> 00:42:16,533 and being, like, over-cautious 612 00:42:16,535 --> 00:42:21,004 in everything that I did because I didn't want to die. 48265

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