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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:10,920 Having spent his first night at the Department of Investigations... 2 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:12,080 5 YEARS AFTER THE MURDER 3 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:15,920 ...Carlos Carrascosa was transferred to the Seventh Precinct, 4 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:19,640 located a few streets away from where he was first arrested. 5 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:23,920 This, after being sentenced to five years and six months in prison. 6 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,320 Dr. Ferrari, his lawyer, 7 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:30,720 visited him and spoke about a petition to court 8 00:00:30,799 --> 00:00:33,199 to get him an early supervised release. 9 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:37,800 The justice system had a pleasant surprise in store for Carlos Carrascosa. 10 00:00:37,879 --> 00:00:39,079 CARRASCOSA BAILED HIMSELF OUT 11 00:00:39,160 --> 00:00:44,560 The money needed for his bail was quickly deposited by his attorneys. 12 00:00:47,199 --> 00:00:48,679 When Prosecutor Molina Pico 13 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,440 appeals the cover-up sentence against Carrascosa... 14 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:52,480 HIS FREEDOM IS NOT FINAL 15 00:00:52,559 --> 00:00:56,279 ...the case goes to the Provincial Penal Cassation Court. 16 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:59,760 And what the judges do there is say, 17 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:03,680 "The evidence used in the trial 18 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:07,360 to convict Carrascosa of covering up the murder 19 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:09,920 is actually the same evidence that can prove Carlos Carrascosa... 20 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:10,840 JOURNALIST 21 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:13,960 ...is María Marta's murderer." 22 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:15,920 The evidence is clear. 23 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:16,840 PROSECUTOR 24 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:20,280 The evidence is conclusive, for it proves Carrascosa 25 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,360 committed the crime, alongside other people. 26 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:25,520 And finally, years later... 27 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:26,440 JOURNALIST 28 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:28,880 ...a ruling by the Cassation Court 29 00:01:28,960 --> 00:01:32,520 found Carrascosa guilty as charged. 30 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,920 Almost two years after Carlos Carrascosa was convicted 31 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:41,720 to five and a half years in prison for covering up his wife's crime, 32 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,920 the Cassation Court of Buenos Aires 33 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,720 sentenced the widower to life imprisonment. 34 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:54,240 The ruling was made after an appeal by Prosecutor Diego Molina Pico, 35 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,280 who accused the widower of being the co-author of the homicide. 36 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:59,280 Are you happy now, Prosecutor? 37 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:00,440 I was convicted... 38 00:02:01,479 --> 00:02:03,159 of murder. 39 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:05,960 And I was sentenced to life imprisonment. 40 00:02:06,039 --> 00:02:11,679 LIFE IMPRISONMENT 41 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:15,840 Before Carrascosa, there was no precedent of a Cassation Court 42 00:02:15,920 --> 00:02:19,200 convicting someone directly or ordering their immediate detention. 43 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:23,080 7 YEARS AFTER THE MURDER 44 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:27,400 I stayed home that night, a friend of mine and her husband came. 45 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:29,920 We were there, had a barbecue. 46 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:32,920 "The Last Supper." 47 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:37,640 Clear the way, guys. 48 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,680 And the next morning... 49 00:02:42,959 --> 00:02:44,159 they came to get me. 50 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,520 A NETFLIX ORIGINAL DOCUMENTARY SERIES 51 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,560 -Wait till he comes, guys! -He'll be down any second. 52 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,400 -Who could've done it? -You're the prime suspect. 53 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,880 His demeanor remains the same. 54 00:03:50,959 --> 00:03:53,599 Carrascosa, who could've killed María Marta? 55 00:03:54,799 --> 00:03:57,199 Why didn't you report the burglary? 56 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:01,040 This case was big, not only because of the murder... 57 00:04:01,119 --> 00:04:01,959 WRITER 58 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,680 ...but also because it unveiled a lifestyle 59 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,440 that wasn't so well-known back then, you know? 60 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:15,160 What caught my attention the most was the media scandal around the case. 61 00:04:15,239 --> 00:04:16,079 DOCTOR OF PHILOSOPHY 62 00:04:18,159 --> 00:04:21,279 I'm surprised by the fact that what immediately comes into play 63 00:04:22,079 --> 00:04:24,679 was the powers that be. 64 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:29,720 The family's wealth, its power, its prestige. 65 00:04:30,280 --> 00:04:33,880 The fact she could be buried at La Recoleta cemetery. 66 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:36,840 This element of power 67 00:04:36,919 --> 00:04:39,039 skews the hypotheses going around... 68 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:42,000 and makes the case more interesting. 69 00:04:44,599 --> 00:04:47,279 Crimes are always unsettling when they happen in places 70 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,600 where there shouldn't be a crime. 71 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,240 Everything seems to lead to a murder mystery story 72 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:58,960 that would be interesting for me to write about... 73 00:04:59,039 --> 00:04:59,879 WRITER 74 00:04:59,960 --> 00:05:02,640 ...as a crime where everyone is the murderer, 75 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,280 a crime where everyone is the victim. 76 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,880 In reality, crimes go unpunished. In a murder mystery, one knows who did it. 77 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:12,640 I think what the murder mystery does is actually unveil the truth. 78 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,360 Walsh said it, "If there's no justice, at least let there be truth." 79 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:20,720 It also had this amazing comedic quality to it. 80 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:24,040 It's great, the "thingy" that was found 81 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,280 in the country club's septic tank. 82 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,560 A crime that the upper-class tries to cover up, 83 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:34,240 and its most fundamental piece of evidence is buried in a septic tank. 84 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:40,040 Regardless of their status, 85 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,120 or their economic power... 86 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:44,040 PROSECUTOR 87 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,200 ...regardless, we got there." 88 00:05:47,280 --> 00:05:48,360 "HE KILLED HER" 89 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:51,440 I divided the country in two halves at the time. 90 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:53,360 Maybe 60% were against me... 91 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:54,680 MARÍA MARTA'S WIDOWER 92 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:58,120 ...around 20% were on my side and 20% were uncertain. 93 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,680 Piglia's theory, which I love, of the paranoid conspiracy 94 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:05,280 says that we need to know who killed her and why. 95 00:06:05,359 --> 00:06:07,759 And we become impatient. So, we blame anyone 96 00:06:07,840 --> 00:06:10,440 because we can't stand the uncertainty of not knowing. 97 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:11,360 NO ONE DID IT 98 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:13,400 The media need to sell. 99 00:06:13,919 --> 00:06:15,999 I wouldn't say their job is telling the truth. 100 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,960 The truth came second to the ratings... 101 00:06:19,039 --> 00:06:19,879 THE BLACK WIDOWER 102 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:21,680 ...to sensationalism. 103 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:23,640 A SHAMEFUL CRIME? 104 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,920 To be walking and have the garbage truck stop, 105 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:28,440 not to shake my hand, 106 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,400 but to hug me and kiss me. 107 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,200 What sold was gruesomeness... 108 00:06:37,280 --> 00:06:38,120 MARÍA MARTA'S SISTER 109 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:41,040 ...a mobster family, they'd say anything. 110 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:42,320 "THEY'RE A MOBSTER FAMILY" 111 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,760 I don't know how many murders were committed in 2002, 112 00:06:44,840 --> 00:06:47,720 but surely María Marta wasn't the only homicide victim... 113 00:06:47,799 --> 00:06:48,639 CARRASCOSA'S LAWYER 114 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:50,800 ...and no one knows about the other victims. 115 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:55,080 It's in our radar because the media put it there. 116 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:56,440 We were like Dynasty. 117 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:57,360 MARÍA MARTA'S BROTHER 118 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,480 It was all people talked about in Argentina. 119 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,320 It was all good business for the media. 120 00:07:05,359 --> 00:07:07,239 A huge boost for ratings. 121 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:11,840 Sixty days on the front page of Argentina's top two newspapers. 122 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,400 Molina Pico adds that Carlos Carrascosa... 123 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,880 Carlos Carrascosa is being moved right now 124 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,560 from the Seventh Precinct in San Isidro. 125 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,400 They'll take him to the Campana Penal Unit 41 prison. 126 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:33,560 In prison, 127 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:38,120 hierarchy depends on the crime committed. 128 00:07:38,799 --> 00:07:41,039 It doesn't matter if you're innocent or guilty, 129 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:42,880 what matters is the charge. 130 00:07:44,039 --> 00:07:46,999 You have a better status if you killed a cop. 131 00:07:49,359 --> 00:07:51,319 Then come the ones who killed their wives. 132 00:07:52,799 --> 00:07:54,319 Because all inmates say, 133 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:56,880 "Who hasn't wanted to kill his wife at some point?" 134 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:01,720 The Cassation Court ordered the investigation of two people 135 00:08:01,799 --> 00:08:03,999 who were close to the family. 136 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:08,400 They are Guillermo Bártoli and the victim's half-sister, 137 00:08:08,479 --> 00:08:09,399 Irene Hurtig. 138 00:08:09,479 --> 00:08:10,399 THE SISTER TELLS IT ALL 139 00:08:10,479 --> 00:08:12,119 When in 2009 140 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:17,440 the appeal turns around Carlos's sentence and convicts him of murder, 141 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:22,960 it upholds Molina Pico's theory of a functional co-authorship 142 00:08:23,039 --> 00:08:27,319 and refers directly to Guillermo and me. 143 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,520 There was no cover-up, I didn't kill her, and neither did Carlos. 144 00:08:30,599 --> 00:08:32,279 Where you there when she was killed? 145 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:34,240 No! Are you kidding me? 146 00:08:34,319 --> 00:08:36,999 No, I'm telling you there's an ongoing investigation 147 00:08:37,079 --> 00:08:39,119 that involves you, and not only in a cover up! 148 00:08:39,199 --> 00:08:41,399 But I haven't been called in for interrogation! 149 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:42,480 -Fine. -I mean... 150 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:47,119 I ask for Irene to be investigated, 151 00:08:47,199 --> 00:08:50,479 for being at the crime scene at the time of its occurrence. 152 00:08:50,560 --> 00:08:53,000 We have to remember it wasn't only Carrascosa. 153 00:08:53,079 --> 00:08:54,519 There was Guillermo Bártoli 154 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:56,160 and Irene Hurtig at some point... 155 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:57,080 JOURNALIST 156 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:00,800 ...also indicted as an accessory to murder. 157 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:02,960 HER BROTHER-IN-LAW AND SISTER UNDER INVESTIGATION 158 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,200 When the Cassation Court did this, 159 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:08,920 we were waiting for me to be called in for interrogation 160 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:14,240 and for them to change Guillermo's charges and call him in, too. 161 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:15,880 None of that happened. 162 00:09:15,959 --> 00:09:17,199 The investigation stopped there. 163 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:18,120 PLAINTIFF'S ATTORNEY 164 00:09:18,199 --> 00:09:23,559 One of the co-authors of the murder was found, which was Carrascosa. 165 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,840 There were supposedly two more to be found. 166 00:09:27,839 --> 00:09:30,999 And we entered a stage where... nothing happened. 167 00:09:31,079 --> 00:09:34,759 We didn't participate anymore, and the case wasn't investigated further. 168 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,080 I've been involved with the case from the beginning. 169 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:46,360 I always took an interest in this case... 170 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:47,280 ANESTHESIOLOGIST 171 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:51,080 ...because of all the media coverage it had. 172 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:54,480 Mostly because I couldn't understand 173 00:09:54,560 --> 00:09:58,000 how an entire family could take part... 174 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:00,280 in something like that. 175 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:04,080 I was sure Carlos Carrascosa was guilty, 176 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:08,360 that her step-siblings were guilty, too, and her in-law... 177 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:12,560 The one I could never truly believe was guilty was Horacio. 178 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,960 "He's a liar, I'm outraged." Elsa from Podestá. 179 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:22,200 "Stop acting, no one believes you." María from Avellaneda. 180 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:25,840 "You can even see Belsunce's guilt on his expressions." 181 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:27,160 Silvia from Villa Urquiza. 182 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,360 Why don't they believe you, Horacio? 183 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:32,520 I'm a journalist. 184 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,360 I've worked as such for 11 years... 185 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:36,280 JOURNALIST 186 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,240 ...on radio and television as a producer and investigator. 187 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,240 I worked with Horacio García Belsunce. 188 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:46,040 An excellent boss, an excellent person. 189 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:47,840 I knew... 190 00:10:48,680 --> 00:10:50,760 Horacio had nothing to do with it. 191 00:10:50,839 --> 00:10:54,039 If Carlos Carrascosa had been María Marta's murderer, 192 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:58,120 Horacio García Belsunce would've accused him without hesitation. 193 00:10:58,880 --> 00:10:59,920 And that, I know. 194 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,920 Carlos's detention is absolutely unfair. 195 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,880 So, it's time to go out and tell people 196 00:11:06,959 --> 00:11:10,399 to at least help us find the murderer. 197 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:14,320 And once again, a media strategy from the defense begins 198 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:18,720 which includes hosting his own radio show from prison... 199 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:22,440 Today is the day we celebrate God's best invention: women. 200 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:23,560 RADIO SHOW - CAMPANA PRISON 201 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:25,800 What man who values his manliness 202 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:29,840 hasn't walked in life under the influence of a woman? 203 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:34,120 That wonderful being that gives us life, that gives us love... 204 00:11:34,680 --> 00:11:35,720 and pleasure. 205 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:40,840 He even gave interviews where he spoke about health issues he was having. 206 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,840 My clogged carotid artery here... 207 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:47,480 it's not a product of me not giving a damn. 208 00:11:47,560 --> 00:11:49,760 Right now, I'm doing 209 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:52,720 everything I can to carry on 210 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:56,320 and attend to my health as much as I can. 211 00:11:56,400 --> 00:12:00,520 And that way, somehow, he begins to have a favorable public image 212 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:04,840 that produces empathy in many sectors of the audience. 213 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,840 If the person accused of murder 214 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:09,880 is like me, talks like me, 215 00:12:09,959 --> 00:12:12,559 then he couldn't have killed anyone. 216 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:15,880 The guys here, the wardens, say to me, "Listen, 217 00:12:15,959 --> 00:12:19,039 how could you kill someone and still have their brother visit you, 218 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:22,320 and the parents write you letters? What is this?" 219 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:23,720 The media... 220 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:27,960 have always won. 221 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:33,440 No prosecutor has ever followed the leads we've given to them. 222 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:38,400 It's horrible to feel that, on top of needing to know who killed María, 223 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:40,800 I have nobody looking for the murderer. 224 00:12:41,560 --> 00:12:46,320 When I saw Carlos Carrascosa in an interview, 225 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:50,320 I got a feeling from him... 226 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:52,800 he had so much pain and deep sadness. 227 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:56,160 The next day, I reached out to Horacio. 228 00:12:56,240 --> 00:13:00,080 I called him, started crying and said, 229 00:13:00,560 --> 00:13:02,440 "I can't believe what's happening to you. 230 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:06,120 It's a nightmare, I know, I'm here for you." 231 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:11,080 One night, there was this show on TV 232 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:13,720 about the family on the Susana Giménez show, 233 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:17,400 I never get nervous, I've been doing this show for 24 years, but... 234 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:22,000 this whole case is so terrible, 235 00:13:22,079 --> 00:13:24,159 that I'm going to be the voice of the people. 236 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,360 And at one point they said 237 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:30,640 that the perimeter alarm wasn't working that day, 238 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:34,160 that there was a car with an unknown license plate 239 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:35,600 that was never investigated... 240 00:13:35,680 --> 00:13:39,080 What we do know for sure, is there's a lot of leads to investigate. 241 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:43,240 For example, the security cameras were off that day. 242 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:46,120 María Marta's house was partly enclosed by the boundary fence. 243 00:13:46,199 --> 00:13:48,399 The cameras were off. 244 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:52,800 An unknown car with a fake plate got in. 245 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:57,200 The clues are there, but they were never investigated. 246 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:00,880 I was with my mom, I looked at her and said, "But then... 247 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:03,520 what happened? Are they innocent?" 248 00:14:04,079 --> 00:14:08,119 That day, a chill went down my spine, 249 00:14:08,199 --> 00:14:11,959 and I felt like my eyes were opening, like the cover fell off my eyes, 250 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:14,680 and I could see the truth. 251 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:22,560 And when I'd spent three years locked up, 252 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,280 that's when they started the blog. 253 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:30,000 Well, these are the headquarters. 254 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,080 GARCÍA BELSUNCE'S CASE BLOG 255 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,000 GARCÍA BELSUNCE'S CASE 256 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:44,360 On one of the interviews Carlos did at the time, he mentioned the blog. 257 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:48,640 And that day, 10,000 people visited the blog. 258 00:14:48,719 --> 00:14:49,719 CARRASCOSA TALKS ON BLOG 259 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:51,480 And from then on, they didn't stop visiting. 260 00:14:51,959 --> 00:14:56,959 There's 237,085 hits to this day. 261 00:14:59,719 --> 00:15:01,919 We digitized the entire case file, 262 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:05,040 so people could read the statements 263 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,400 from Carlos's entire trial. 264 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,000 I believe Malú and I took on a role, 265 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:17,240 without being lawyers, but as a defense of sorts. 266 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,880 Here's a meter that counts how long it has been 267 00:15:23,959 --> 00:15:25,999 since María Marta's death. 268 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:27,600 17 YEARS - 236 DAYS 269 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:33,600 What do you think happened? 270 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:37,000 My hypothesis of what happened... 271 00:15:37,079 --> 00:15:39,079 is very simple. It was a burglary. 272 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:46,440 Bank accounts were all frozen. No one put their money in the bank, 273 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:47,960 everyone kept it at home. 274 00:15:48,599 --> 00:15:50,479 It was a day when... 275 00:15:50,959 --> 00:15:54,799 everyone would be watching the game at someone's house. 276 00:15:55,520 --> 00:16:00,840 They went to get the money, which was rumored to be around a million dollars. 277 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:04,880 I think they went in to steal the money that they thought was there, 278 00:16:06,199 --> 00:16:08,559 and María Marta got back earlier unexpectedly. 279 00:16:10,079 --> 00:16:13,639 I think that day she went to play tennis, as usual. 280 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:19,040 A storm breaks, which interrupts her tennis match. 281 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:20,600 She goes to the Bártolis'. 282 00:16:21,439 --> 00:16:22,599 On her bike. 283 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:26,480 And María Marta decides to leave 284 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,760 and went straight home. 285 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:47,280 And I think that's when she finds them or hears noises... 286 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,720 inside the house, and there, in the hall, 287 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:55,760 I believe was her first confrontation with the aggressors. 288 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:59,640 Not only did she see them, she recognized them. 289 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:04,440 It's very likely that's when they shot her first, 290 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:07,480 which would be the famous projectile referred to as "thingy" 291 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:09,360 that got stuck in her hair. 292 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,600 And they corner her between the bidet and the toilet. 293 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:23,680 To me, they threw her in the bathtub and, well... left. 294 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:38,200 The year 2009 went by. 295 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,240 Then, 2010 went by. 296 00:17:42,360 --> 00:17:44,640 I'm subpoenaed for the cover-up trial 297 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:48,040 in May 2011. 298 00:17:48,120 --> 00:17:50,800 A part of María Marta's family 299 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:55,720 went to trial long after Carrascosa was sentenced. 300 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,720 This week, on Wednesday to be precise, 301 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:00,600 the second trial begins. 302 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,480 We're talking about María Marta García Belsunce's murder. 303 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:07,960 The case will be presented by Prosecutor Laura Zyseskind. 304 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:09,360 I was just back from vacation. 305 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:10,680 PROSECUTOR OF THE COVER-UP TRIAL 306 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,080 I get an official notification, 307 00:18:13,159 --> 00:18:15,959 that I'd been assigned, along with two other prosecutors, 308 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:19,760 to the oral and public trial for the cover-up crime 309 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:24,160 that would take place at Criminal Courthouse Number 1. 310 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,880 Carlos was in prison, 311 00:18:27,399 --> 00:18:29,799 and Horacio was facing a trial for cover-up 312 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:33,880 along with the rest of the family, the doctor and the masseuse. 313 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:38,920 The cover-up charges had nothing to do 314 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:42,000 with helping a specific person 315 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:46,520 but with having hidden that the victim suffered a violent death... 316 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:47,880 THEY GOT A FAKE DEATH CERTIFICATE 317 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:48,960 HORACIO: "GET RID OF COPS" 318 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:50,760 ...both from the police and the prosecutor 319 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:52,000 by altering the crime scene... 320 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:53,000 DOCTOR ORDERED TO CLEAN 321 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:56,840 ...and discarding evidence from the crime scene. 322 00:18:56,919 --> 00:19:00,559 A week before the trial, 323 00:19:01,159 --> 00:19:04,279 they decide to arrest me 324 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,440 charged with homicide, 325 00:19:07,919 --> 00:19:11,519 aggravated murder, as co-author... 326 00:19:12,399 --> 00:19:14,479 based on Molina Pico's theory. 327 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:18,080 The law ordered Irene Hurtig's arrest. 328 00:19:18,159 --> 00:19:22,519 She's María Marta García Belsunce's half-sister. 329 00:19:23,159 --> 00:19:24,599 I mean, are they crazy? 330 00:19:24,679 --> 00:19:27,559 There's no need to arrest me. 331 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:31,160 They could've just subpoenaed me. Well... 332 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:34,680 The supervising judge who rules in the matter 333 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,360 sees that this doesn't make any sense. 334 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,920 He annuls the warrant for my arrest 335 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:43,040 and tells them to call me in for questioning, 336 00:19:43,120 --> 00:19:45,080 which never happened. 337 00:19:45,159 --> 00:19:49,159 That's when this whole co-authorship theory fell apart. 338 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:50,720 It was over with. 339 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:54,040 We're beginning a second trial for this case. 340 00:19:54,120 --> 00:19:56,920 The same prosecutors that tried to have me arrested 341 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:01,760 like the mafia, in a nasty way, for the lack of a better word, 342 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,160 called the media so as to throw a red herring. 343 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,600 You know they did it to throw a red herring. 344 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:11,320 Present for the debate at San Isidro's Criminal Courthouse Number 1 345 00:20:11,399 --> 00:20:14,519 are the victim's brother, Horacio García Belsunce, 346 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:18,360 her half-brother, John Hurtig, the brother-in-law, Guillermo Bártoli, 347 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:20,560 a neighbor, Sergio Binello, 348 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:24,080 the masseuse who cleaned up the blood, Beatriz Michelini, 349 00:20:24,159 --> 00:20:26,799 and Doctor Juan Ramón Gauvry Gordon. 350 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:30,560 My sister was killed, and I am here, 351 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:34,000 in for covering up my own sister's murder? 352 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:37,560 You'd have to have a pretty sick mind to think of something like that. 353 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:41,520 And while the cameras were inside the courtroom, 354 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,680 Beatriz Michelini covered her face. 355 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,360 Beatriz Michelini was brought to trial 356 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,960 for her involvement, having cleaned the scene. 357 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,440 We were able to establish at what time she entered, 358 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,360 which the family initially led us to believe 359 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,920 occurred from the very beginning, close to the time Mr. Carrascosa entered 360 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:03,360 and found the victim in the tub. 361 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:07,160 Carmel Country Club, in Pilar. Kilometer 55, I think. 362 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:09,240 -Down the Panamericana? -Yes. 363 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:12,040 -Kilometer 55? -Yes, out the Pilar exit. 364 00:21:12,120 --> 00:21:14,120 Any landmark to guide us there? 365 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,400 It's the entrance to... 366 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,360 But with the analysis of the phone calls, 367 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,720 they find that, at that time, 368 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:25,160 Michelini was at the entrance gate waiting to be let in. 369 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:26,520 MAIN GATE 370 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:30,400 Beatriz Michelini, the masseuse, just told the court 371 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,880 that when the call to the ambulance was made, at 19:07, 372 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,560 she wasn't at the house. 373 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,840 I heard on the radio 374 00:21:39,919 --> 00:21:41,679 the masseuse's testimony 375 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:45,400 that she hadn't arrived at 7:00 p.m. 376 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,960 They had changed her whole story. 377 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,880 Because this didn't match at all 378 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,800 her previous testimony 379 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:56,880 taken a few days after María's death. 380 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,880 She said she found me there at 7:00 p.m. 381 00:22:03,399 --> 00:22:04,999 She did clean up. 382 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,200 But the reason she did it 383 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:13,120 had nothing to do with concealing or covering-up the crime's evidence. 384 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,360 She didn't know what had happened 385 00:22:16,439 --> 00:22:18,359 because she stepped into a staged scene. 386 00:22:18,439 --> 00:22:19,519 A CAREFULLY STAGED SCENE 387 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,080 Truth is, until now, the only thing that's been proven 388 00:22:22,159 --> 00:22:24,439 is that Belsunce was murdered, 389 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,600 and that her widower, Carlos Carrascosa, 390 00:22:26,679 --> 00:22:29,039 was convicted as the author of this crime. 391 00:22:29,120 --> 00:22:32,560 The alleged silence pact and cover-up by the family 392 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:34,400 is being judged right now, 393 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,400 though the motive, the reason why they did it, 394 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,200 remains a mystery. 395 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,000 Tell us the story of the medium. 396 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:53,000 -Sorry. -Want some water? 397 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:55,640 Yes. This makes me nervous. 398 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:04,360 I, being 399 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,800 the resourceful type... 400 00:23:08,919 --> 00:23:09,759 thought, 401 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:12,280 "I'll get a medium, 402 00:23:13,120 --> 00:23:16,280 go to María Marta's house with Carlos's permission, 403 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,240 and leave her there for her to tell me what happened." 404 00:23:22,360 --> 00:23:23,480 Nobody knows this. 405 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,120 We went into the house at midnight together. 406 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,040 She didn't let me turn the lights on. 407 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,120 I didn't know the house. 408 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,280 It was pretty... scary. 409 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:34,600 She started feeling things. 410 00:23:35,159 --> 00:23:37,359 She followed the same path as María Marta 411 00:23:37,439 --> 00:23:39,359 on the day she was killed. 412 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:45,160 She thought she was there to rid the house of some spirits, 413 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:49,280 until she got to the bedroom and started screaming... 414 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:51,000 desperately. 415 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,240 She told me, "A woman was killed here. 416 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:56,160 She drowned." 417 00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:00,400 She told me the first thing they did to María was grab her by the neck. 418 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,720 She mentioned a man at the scene. 419 00:24:06,919 --> 00:24:10,879 With bangs, hair kind of long, young. 420 00:24:12,120 --> 00:24:16,000 And... four other people. 421 00:24:21,120 --> 00:24:26,200 The date has been set for the ruling. It will be November fourth. 422 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:31,480 Then we'll know if the law acquits or convicts the six accused 423 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,520 for covering up María Marta García Belsunce's murder. 424 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:38,480 The media has great influence on the judges' rulings. 425 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:42,680 It's not just an observation of mine, I know it through friends who are judges. 426 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,040 One feels calm 427 00:24:45,120 --> 00:24:47,320 thinking that the judges will rule 428 00:24:47,399 --> 00:24:52,999 strictly based on what happens in court. 429 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,680 Not on information said elsewhere. 430 00:24:56,159 --> 00:25:00,399 With the exception, as in this case, of the introduction of evidence 431 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,760 from the declarations made by the accused to the press. 432 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:09,920 And we used an interview that the family gave on a TV show. 433 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,920 One of them in particular said that the weapon used 434 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,960 to murder María Marta was an old gun. 435 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,560 It was .32 long. But it was an old gun. 436 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,280 And they shot her from a point-blank range. 437 00:25:23,360 --> 00:25:24,760 There was no other way 438 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:29,320 to explain how they knew exactly what kind of gun it was. 439 00:25:29,399 --> 00:25:34,199 So, the judges didn't rule based on what they heard on TV, 440 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,880 but because that particular interview 441 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,960 was brought in as evidence for the trial. 442 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:44,440 There's an investigation report that said the gun was old. 443 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:45,360 MARÍA MARTA'S BROTHER 444 00:25:45,439 --> 00:25:48,679 That the bullets they extracted from María Marta's skull 445 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:53,240 couldn't be tested because they were from an old gun. 446 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:57,360 There were tests by experts, reports, audio analyses... 447 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,480 Well, finally the verdict was pronounced. 448 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,840 After over four months of arguments, 449 00:26:03,919 --> 00:26:07,479 the second trial for María Marta's murder comes to an end. 450 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:09,640 I obviously wanted to know 451 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,960 what the ruling was, the verdict on that case. 452 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,960 It's fantastic that someone unrelated to me, 453 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:20,760 with whom I never spoke or met before, followed the case. 454 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,360 And when they read the judgment 455 00:26:24,439 --> 00:26:27,999 it was a surprise to me. 456 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:29,720 By unanimity... 457 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,920 a conviction of four years in prison, 458 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,640 court costs and legal expenses, 459 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,600 as the authors criminally responsible 460 00:26:39,679 --> 00:26:42,359 for aggravated cover-up, 461 00:26:42,439 --> 00:26:45,599 as the aforementioned is an especially serious crime. 462 00:26:45,679 --> 00:26:48,799 We order the immediate detention of Juan Ramón Gauvry Gordon, 463 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,320 Juan Carlos Hurtig, Sergio Rafael Binello, 464 00:26:51,399 --> 00:26:53,919 Horacio Carlos García Belsunce, and Guillermo Bártoli. 465 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,320 Mr. Hurtig! 466 00:26:57,399 --> 00:26:58,679 Sit down, please. 467 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,080 They took us out in cuffs. 468 00:27:02,439 --> 00:27:06,599 They took our shoes, our belts, 469 00:27:07,199 --> 00:27:08,959 our wallets, everything. 470 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,120 And took us out the back to a cell. 471 00:27:13,679 --> 00:27:16,839 Yeah, it was very hard. 472 00:27:16,919 --> 00:27:18,999 Of course it was very important to me, 473 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:24,680 because it proved that every accusation leveled at me then and even now, 474 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:29,000 claiming I fixated on the family and didn't see beyond that, 475 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,680 that I was biased 476 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,600 and didn't pursue every possible lead in the investigation... 477 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:36,360 When it was in the hands 478 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:38,720 of someone else, 479 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,640 that person followed my path 480 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:45,760 and got them all convicted. 481 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,240 Except Michelini, who was acquitted. 482 00:27:50,199 --> 00:27:51,639 We're innocent. 483 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,360 My siblings are innocent, my husband is innocent. 484 00:27:54,439 --> 00:27:57,159 When they imprisoned all the family members, 485 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,600 we held a protest at Plaza de Mayo square. 486 00:27:59,679 --> 00:28:02,439 With all the youth who loves Carlos, 487 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,840 who are the children of María Marta and Carlos's friends. 488 00:28:05,919 --> 00:28:08,599 This was proposed by the youngsters. 489 00:28:09,439 --> 00:28:11,479 And I am proud that our youth, 490 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:15,200 who feel that having values is worth something. 491 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,880 My bail was set at... I think it was... 492 00:28:21,439 --> 00:28:24,959 around 400,000 pesos, which I didn't have. 493 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:30,440 And my friends gathered the money in 24 hours and got me out. 494 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,000 Look, I don't wish it on anybody. 495 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,360 Some say, "It was just 15 days." 496 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,920 "Oh, you think 15 in prison isn't much? 497 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,760 Take one, and then we'll talk." 498 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,440 Do you think there could be any change in your situation? 499 00:28:44,919 --> 00:28:45,999 I won't talk. 500 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,560 THE FIVE DETAINEES WALK FREE 501 00:28:48,639 --> 00:28:50,439 Well, as we said, Eduardo. 502 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,120 -They had the cars ready. -The situation won't change. 503 00:28:54,679 --> 00:28:56,959 They've been convicted, that hasn't changed. 504 00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,000 At least for now, that hasn't changed. 505 00:29:12,919 --> 00:29:16,439 I've only ever fought with two people: with my sister and with María Marta. 506 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:17,360 MARÍA MARTA'S FRIEND 507 00:29:17,439 --> 00:29:20,119 You don't often fight with friends, fights are for siblings, 508 00:29:20,199 --> 00:29:21,359 and you make up later. 509 00:29:21,439 --> 00:29:26,879 So, I think the bond we had was mostly like a sisterly bond. 510 00:29:28,199 --> 00:29:31,879 Speaking of "paying", we didn't pay. I don't know where this woman got that. 511 00:29:31,959 --> 00:29:35,239 Let's see, Pichi, as I stated and ratify, 512 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,200 you said you paid to do what Carlos wanted. 513 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:42,920 For her not to undergo an autopsy and to be buried at the latest hour. 514 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,240 Are you sure Pichi Taylor said that to you that evening? 515 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:47,160 TRIAL - 2007 516 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,480 I'm convinced. I'll stand by it until the day I die. 517 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,640 Inés went to visit me in prison. 518 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,440 For me, it was a very painful situation 519 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,160 seeing Carlos convicted. 520 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,160 But I could always look at Carlos in the eye. 521 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,200 They tell me that she wants to see me. 522 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:08,160 I say, "Okay. 523 00:30:09,199 --> 00:30:10,039 Let her come." 524 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,160 Before I could put the mate on the table... 525 00:30:13,639 --> 00:30:14,799 I said, 526 00:30:15,439 --> 00:30:17,559 "Go ahead, tell me why you're here." 527 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:24,480 I thought she'd apologize, you know? I thought she would. 528 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,880 "I didn't mean to." I don't know, something. 529 00:30:27,959 --> 00:30:29,999 I've known her since she was born. 530 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:33,640 She was the same age as María, nine or ten. 531 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,200 And it was very hard for the both of us, I think, 532 00:30:42,439 --> 00:30:44,599 but it was good for me 533 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,800 seeing him and being able to have a talk. 534 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,400 I had told him everything I had to say. 535 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,280 And I didn't get the answers I wanted. 536 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,160 So, it didn't make sense anymore. 537 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,640 "I wanted to see you were okay," she said. 538 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,080 "Okay, that's it? Okay then. 539 00:31:05,959 --> 00:31:06,799 Bye." 540 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:12,240 And when I left, I said, "I don't think I'll ever come to see you again." 541 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,000 And it was hard. 542 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:22,360 But I stood by it. 543 00:31:22,959 --> 00:31:24,639 I never went to see him again. 544 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:38,960 I turned 70. 545 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,040 And that's when I asked for house arrest. 546 00:31:43,679 --> 00:31:46,079 The law states that, if you turn 70 547 00:31:46,159 --> 00:31:48,479 or if you suffer from a terminal disease, 548 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,960 you can apply for this benefit and qualify for house arrest. 549 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,000 In this case, he met one of the requirements 550 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:55,920 and was granted the benefit. 551 00:31:56,000 --> 00:32:00,720 So, minutes after 5:30, he leaves the Campana Penal Unit in that van. 552 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,200 He looked calm during the pickup. 553 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:07,440 They give you an ankle bracelet that allows you a 14-meter diameter. 554 00:32:09,439 --> 00:32:12,279 Had I had a family, children, a wife, 555 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,960 it's different, for you go home to your family. 556 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:19,760 So, being alone in a house all day, not being able to move... 557 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,000 I would've rather stayed in prison. 558 00:32:22,639 --> 00:32:24,359 In prison we had our radio show, 559 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,640 you could play truco, a card game, if you wanted. 560 00:32:26,719 --> 00:32:28,879 You could play chinchón if you felt like it. 561 00:32:29,399 --> 00:32:31,639 If I wanted to smoke a joint, I could. 562 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:34,400 They're bars, too. 563 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,840 Just not made of iron, but of greenery. 564 00:32:36,919 --> 00:32:40,679 You've been convicted as the co-author of a woman's murder. 565 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,760 And you have nothing to say today? 566 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,160 With all the feminicides going on one every 30 hours. 567 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,400 Do feminicides matter to you or not? 568 00:32:49,879 --> 00:32:52,839 Of course they matter to me. But you... 569 00:32:52,919 --> 00:32:57,159 -Your questions are honestly... -I could ask you what you want. 570 00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:01,120 The concept "feminicide" didn't exist at the time. 571 00:33:01,199 --> 00:33:02,999 It's a more modern concept. 572 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:08,000 We would've probably treated it not only as feminicide, 573 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,400 but also gender-responsive. 574 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,960 The crime of passion hypothesis... 575 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:14,640 The victim of a crime of passion? 576 00:33:14,719 --> 00:33:18,119 The theory of the crime of passion is reinforced again... 577 00:33:18,199 --> 00:33:21,039 When this case began, there were so many theories. 578 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:25,840 The term "passion" was used without knowing what it meant 579 00:33:25,919 --> 00:33:28,079 or who was accused of what "passion." 580 00:33:28,159 --> 00:33:30,879 Fortunately, the term has been banished. 581 00:33:30,959 --> 00:33:32,919 The mislabeled "crimes of passion." 582 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:37,120 We've explained thoroughly that "crime of passion" is not to be used. 583 00:33:37,199 --> 00:33:38,559 It's a wrong term. 584 00:33:38,639 --> 00:33:42,279 The thing here is that the husband is under scrutiny. 585 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,360 A feminicide is often mistaken 586 00:33:44,439 --> 00:33:47,559 for what used to be called a "crime of passion." 587 00:33:47,639 --> 00:33:51,519 There's no passion there, but hate, death, murder. 588 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:55,400 If you read the entire García Belsunce case file, 589 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,400 there's not a single testimony 590 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,680 that speaks of marital disagreements or trouble in the marriage, 591 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:05,040 arguments, infidelities, insults, nothing. 592 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:09,040 Maybe when we talked about finding the motive, 593 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,320 we could've dug deeper. 594 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:16,960 Had we looked further into the victim, 595 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,280 we might've found the motive. 596 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,000 The difference is that the argument 597 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,920 which started verbally, escalated. 598 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:30,560 When the prosecutor presents his argument, he says the motive was a fight... 599 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:32,680 a spousal argument, 600 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,840 without showing evidence to support that hypothesis. 601 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,040 It wasn't proven by the prosecution, by any means. It's not like... 602 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:43,360 they had three witnesses that saw them arguing and Carlos hitting her. 603 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:47,400 Nothing. He thought it could be due to a fight, but had no evidence. 604 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,480 After a while, I asked... 605 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:55,560 14 YEARS AFTER THE MURDER 606 00:34:55,639 --> 00:34:57,519 ...to appeal to the National Court. 607 00:34:58,240 --> 00:35:00,040 The National Supreme Court 608 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:04,200 ordered what I petitioned: for the case to be reexamined. 609 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:05,800 The National Supreme Court 610 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,480 orders the Buenos Aires Supreme Court to revise the verdict. 611 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:14,960 The provincial Supreme Court says, "I won't revise it. 612 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:16,800 Let Cassation do it again." 613 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,440 So, I was sent back to the Cassation Court, 614 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:24,800 to a court that hadn't intervened in any of our cases. 615 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:30,560 Neither in my family's cover-up case, nor in my case. 616 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,680 There's a Court ruling here that questions 617 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,120 the conviction ruling. 618 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:38,600 That needs to be reviewed. 619 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,320 If it's not a solid ruling, why is Carrascosa in jail? 620 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,440 A COURT RULING COULD FREE CARRASCOSA 621 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,080 There's a very important development 622 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,280 that took place in the 2011 trial 623 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:55,440 brought by Dr. Moreira, one of the doctors who conducted the autopsy. 624 00:35:56,040 --> 00:36:00,040 He pointed out that María Marta's rib fractures 625 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:01,880 didn't occur while she was alive 626 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:06,040 but during the CPR efforts. 627 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:10,240 Those fractured ribs had no blood, which showed 628 00:36:10,319 --> 00:36:14,559 that the homicide happened at least an hour before, around 6:30 p.m. 629 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,880 CHAMBER I OF THE PENAL CASSATION COURT 630 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:20,320 DEAD AT LEAST AN HOUR EARLIER 631 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:25,960 THE VICTIM WAS MURDERED AT 6:30, AT THE LATEST 632 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:29,960 Everything that happened in the guys' trial 633 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,000 was very useful for Carlos. 634 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,200 María Marta's time of death, according to the doctors, 635 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,640 the approximate time of death, 636 00:36:38,720 --> 00:36:41,480 doesn't match at all the time Carrascosa was there, 637 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,400 when he was entering or leaving. That's the truth. 638 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,680 So, Carrascosa can't be placed at the scene of the crime. 639 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:53,280 By determining that María Marta had died at 6:30 p.m., 640 00:36:53,359 --> 00:36:57,279 it was clear that Carlos couldn't have been at the house. 641 00:36:57,359 --> 00:36:58,839 Why? Because... 642 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,680 For one, he was at my house, 643 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,440 but according to Molina Pico, he was at the clubhouse. 644 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,680 So, he definitely wasn't home. 645 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:08,840 And that's when this new session begins where, 646 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,720 with the same evidence and adding evidence from the other files, 647 00:37:12,799 --> 00:37:14,999 that is, the cover-up case file, 648 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:19,440 they decide to dismiss Carlos Carrascosa and declare him innocent. 649 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:24,600 VERDICT: CARLOS ALBERTO CARRASCOSA IS ACQUITTED 650 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:28,400 CARRASCOSA GOES FREE 651 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,680 Carlos Carrascosa's acquittal. 652 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,320 Carlos Carrascosa is acquitted. 653 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,760 Carlos Carrascosa gets acquitted. 654 00:37:35,839 --> 00:37:38,399 Carrascosa was locked up for seven years. 655 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,440 The last two, under house arrest. 656 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,600 Good evening. 657 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,960 First of all, I want to apologize 658 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,160 for it has been a very emotional day for me. 659 00:37:48,240 --> 00:37:49,560 NO ONE KILLED MARÍA MARTA 660 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,280 AFTER 14 YEARS, WIDOWER AND CONVICTED FELON IS ACQUITTED 661 00:37:52,359 --> 00:37:53,959 You're penniless. 662 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,240 Do you know what you'll do now that you're free? 663 00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,360 To be honest, today, I don't. 664 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,760 WHO KILLED MARÍA MARTA? 665 00:38:01,839 --> 00:38:04,199 Do you think María Marta recognized her killers? 666 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,040 For sure... that's why they killed her. 667 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,440 Carlos said at the time 668 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,360 that María Marta sent angels to him, us two. 669 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,120 And I think that, in some way, 670 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:17,840 I felt... 671 00:38:18,839 --> 00:38:21,159 along with Malú, like a savior angel. 672 00:38:21,240 --> 00:38:23,360 Do you resent anyone, Carrascosa? 673 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:25,400 As Mandela said... 674 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:30,880 "When you get out of prison, 675 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,560 forget who you are and who your enemy once was." 676 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:43,080 Let's see. Carrascosa's acquittal follows the rules of the game. 677 00:38:45,319 --> 00:38:49,079 If I thought justice didn't exist, although many times... 678 00:38:50,319 --> 00:38:53,199 it makes me feel at odds with myself, 679 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,520 I wouldn't work in the justice system. 680 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,960 What the Buenos Aires Court already gave me, 681 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,400 the Attorney General opposed. 682 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:03,760 I'm still acquitted. 683 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,120 But that doesn't mean this is over. 684 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,400 No one wants to grant me the final acquittal. 685 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:15,200 Because the justice system is a corporation. 686 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,320 The second I get the final acquittal, 687 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:21,160 I can press charges against everyone who misjudged me. 688 00:39:22,240 --> 00:39:24,040 And they cover for each other. 689 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:29,840 JUDICIAL AUTHORITY 690 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:34,600 When you have a set of evidence that you've collected, 691 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:36,360 each and every time... 692 00:39:37,359 --> 00:39:40,399 there will be more than one hypothesis that fits the bill. 693 00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,080 It's not unusual, and it happens all the time, 694 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:51,000 for different human beings, the judges and magistrates, 695 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,440 to interpret the facts in different ways 696 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,720 and believe in different hypothesis, 697 00:39:55,799 --> 00:40:00,279 both being consistent with what's known, because what's known is very little. 698 00:40:02,240 --> 00:40:06,560 A prosecutor or the defense attorney want to convince the judge or the jury. 699 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:10,480 What they try to do is build a coherent narrative. 700 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,480 GARCÍA BELSUNCE - (GUARDS) 701 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,760 There's the aesthetics of the arguments. 702 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,360 The theories one would rather believe, right? 703 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,360 The hypothesis that Pachelo is a thief 704 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,680 is less glamorous, less interesting 705 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:30,520 than the family conspiracy hypothesis. 706 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,240 So, I think that influenced 707 00:40:34,319 --> 00:40:36,519 the prosecution's investigation. 708 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,480 PACHELO, NICOLÁS ROBERTO QUALIFIED THEFT PER VIOLATION 709 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:40,960 Nicolás Pachelo 710 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,240 has a very interesting story, 711 00:40:44,319 --> 00:40:45,439 and also tragic. 712 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:51,120 He's the son of a race car driver, Roberto Pachelo. 713 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,280 A playboy in the 70's. 714 00:40:55,120 --> 00:41:00,040 He's Roberto's son from his marriage to Silvia Ryan, 715 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,000 a marriage that didn't last long. 716 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:06,600 He grew up among the Buenos Aires upper class. 717 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,440 He went to a very expensive school in Pilar, 718 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:13,920 and he exhibited quite recurring violent behavior. 719 00:41:14,720 --> 00:41:18,000 His friends say he trashed the cars when he went out clubbing. 720 00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,280 He picked up fights. 721 00:41:20,359 --> 00:41:22,559 His father, Roberto Pachelo, 722 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:27,240 is thought to have killed himself in a house near a tide pool in Pilar. 723 00:41:27,319 --> 00:41:30,999 His mother was a very... 724 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:34,640 complicated woman, psychologically, she had suffered a lot. 725 00:41:34,720 --> 00:41:39,600 Nicolás was mostly raised by his father's second wife, 726 00:41:40,319 --> 00:41:43,879 because his mother couldn't really handle him. 727 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:48,080 His mother commits suicide in the middle of the García Belsunce case. 728 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,320 I always said I had nothing to do with it, 729 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,680 but I had to wait for what the judges had to say. 730 00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:58,600 You weren't detained for that cause? 731 00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,440 No, not at all. Not detained, nor arrested, nor indicted. 732 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,960 I was only called in as a witness. 733 00:42:07,240 --> 00:42:08,920 Nicolás Pachelo somehow... 734 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:11,000 rebuilt himself. 735 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,600 Patience, coffee, music, 736 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:17,560 and a bit of luck helped to win the first prize. 737 00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,880 He became a well-known poker player. 738 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,720 He won a prize worth 63,000 dollars in Punta del Este. 739 00:42:24,240 --> 00:42:28,840 He always had a lot of money at his disposal and squandered it fast. 740 00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,600 I don't know if "justice" is the right word, but... 741 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,880 the dough is here. 742 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:38,720 While Carrascosa was in prison, a new Pachelo arose. 743 00:42:38,799 --> 00:42:42,799 Maybe at the time, he thought that was in the past 744 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:44,560 and that there wouldn't be 745 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,160 any chance of getting drawn back into the case. 746 00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:53,520 BREAKING NEWS 747 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,560 They were all detained 748 00:42:56,240 --> 00:42:58,760 during a party involving drugs 749 00:42:58,839 --> 00:43:03,119 where Nicolás Pachelo was also detained. 750 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:06,840 Nicolás Pachelo was involved in other investigations. 751 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:10,960 For example, one that connected him with selling drugs at raves. 752 00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,320 And another investigation 753 00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:17,240 which is reminiscent of María Marta's case, 754 00:43:17,319 --> 00:43:22,199 because it has to do with burglaries happening in gated communities. 755 00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:23,440 PACHELO IDENTIFIED IN BURGLARY 756 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:27,040 This person we see on screen, plaintiffs claim is Nicolás Pachelo. 757 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,560 He's detained for another burglary case 758 00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:35,040 in another country club, 759 00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,360 in which he was caught on camera 760 00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,840 and was recognized through the footage 761 00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:43,000 by his half-siblings from whom he was estranged. 762 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,000 He's been convicted for burglaries. 763 00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:48,960 He's admitted to burglarizing houses with a similar M.O. 764 00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:50,680 to that of the Tortugas burglaries. 765 00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,160 That doesn't mean he's burglarized every house in the world. 766 00:43:53,240 --> 00:43:54,080 PACHELO'S LAWYER 767 00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:58,040 New prosecutors appeared and decided to start an investigation 768 00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:00,720 with Nicolás Pachelo as the only suspect. 769 00:44:00,799 --> 00:44:04,039 There's two prosecutors that want to find out the truth. 770 00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:07,480 And if there had been anything pointing our way, they would've followed it. 771 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:11,440 But when they saw the case file, everything pointed to Pachelo. 772 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,960 The man who's always been named as a suspect by the family 773 00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,120 who was never investigated 774 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,440 and was only called in as a witness 775 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:25,440 is called in today, subpoenaed as a suspect of felony murder. 776 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,640 Nicolás Pachelo, a neighbor in Camel. 777 00:44:28,720 --> 00:44:30,760 I covered this case and today, 778 00:44:30,839 --> 00:44:33,119 sixteen years later, here we are again 779 00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,440 in what, if it weren't for María Marta's tragic death, 780 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:41,360 would be a police procedural episode with no conclusion as of yet. 781 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,520 The seven DNA tests 782 00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:45,680 they ran on Pachelo's blood-- 783 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:47,560 Carlos Carrascosa was the one 784 00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:51,320 who was acquitted after spending almost eight years in prison. 785 00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,680 He's come to his old community to open the door to his house to-- 786 00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:58,080 I'm content we could take Pachelo to court, 787 00:44:58,640 --> 00:44:59,960 along with two guards. 788 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,080 I'm not saying it's overwhelming, conclusive evidence, 789 00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:04,760 but it's sufficient 790 00:45:04,839 --> 00:45:08,199 to investigate him and then take him to court. 791 00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,240 SECURITY CAMERAS EVIDENCE OF THE PLAINTIFF 792 00:45:10,319 --> 00:45:12,439 And now, the evidence that we collected... 793 00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:13,560 PACHELO LEAVES WITH A MINOR 794 00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:17,800 ...has to be sufficiently solid to rule them guilty. 795 00:45:17,879 --> 00:45:19,999 There's a problem: Carrascosa. 796 00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:23,520 Everyone thinks Carrascosa has been acquitted, which isn't true. 797 00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:29,200 Altuve, the head prosecutor who's superior to these prosecutors, appealed. 798 00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:34,360 So, it's a strange circumstance, never in my life had I seen this, 799 00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:38,080 in which they'd be co-authors of the crime, it's preposterous. 800 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:44,440 Those involved in the trial will have to dig deep, 801 00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:49,440 because it is known that the key to solving a murder 802 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:53,040 is going back to the first instants. In this case, those moments were lost. 803 00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:56,760 TURBULENT HEARING FOR THE MURDER OF MARÍA MARTA 804 00:45:56,839 --> 00:46:01,439 Now, as we approach the beginning of the trial against Nicolás Pachelo, 805 00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:06,480 there doesn't seem to be evidence of Pachelo murdering her 806 00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:10,720 and then forcing the victim's family 807 00:46:10,799 --> 00:46:12,799 to stop the police from entering, 808 00:46:12,879 --> 00:46:15,639 to get a counterfeit death certificate, 809 00:46:15,720 --> 00:46:18,720 to flush one of the bullets that supposedly Pachelo shot 810 00:46:18,799 --> 00:46:20,799 down the toilet to hide it, 811 00:46:20,879 --> 00:46:25,679 to clean the crime scene he allegedly created. 812 00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,760 We lack evidence of any of that. 813 00:46:27,839 --> 00:46:31,399 It really doesn't add up, if Pachelo was the murderer, 814 00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:33,840 that so many people did things 815 00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:37,480 to erase the clues that led back to him. 816 00:46:42,359 --> 00:46:47,119 Whether they say Carrascosa or Pachelo was the murderer, 817 00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:50,680 there will surely exist evidence to the contrary 818 00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:54,320 and people who are unsatisfied with the answer. 819 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,440 Hello. Welcome! 820 00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:03,560 How are you? Friday at last. 821 00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:05,360 How's your day going? 822 00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,720 I'm Horacio García Belsunce, and here I am, as usual. 823 00:47:09,240 --> 00:47:12,480 Monday to Friday from 7:00 to 8:00 p.m., 824 00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,600 at Radio X Pilar, FM 100.3... 825 00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,840 Today I'm very different from how I was some years ago. 826 00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,600 Always ranting about everything. 827 00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:23,560 And I'm in another place, you know? 828 00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:27,960 I stopped victimizing myself and keeping... 829 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,440 busy with my radio show, 830 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:35,080 looking for a new way to get into the media again. 831 00:47:35,799 --> 00:47:37,679 I'm in a different place. 832 00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:42,720 I've changed, I got over the victimization. 833 00:47:44,240 --> 00:47:47,560 Which was real! But pointless. 834 00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,560 This case caused me... 835 00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:57,360 a lot of trouble. 836 00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,480 It upset my spirit. 837 00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:03,080 THIS IS HOW THE GATED COMMUNITY JUSTICE WORKS 838 00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,560 MOLINA PICO, INSANE OR VIGILANTE? 839 00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:09,560 I'm not looking for revenge, I have nothing to avenge. 840 00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:12,600 Because I was just doing my job. 841 00:48:13,839 --> 00:48:16,079 Beyond the initial blunder, 842 00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:18,440 which took a long time to forgive myself for, 843 00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:19,680 I did it right. 844 00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:20,920 THE CASE MARKED HIS CAREER 845 00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:24,120 Since I went there but didn't stop the wake, 846 00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:28,640 and didn't order an autopsy right then, 847 00:48:28,720 --> 00:48:32,880 they try to tarnish the entire procedure 848 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:34,640 because of that initial blunter. 849 00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:38,360 It made me very sad 850 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:40,760 to imagine... 851 00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:45,520 that the last faces María Marta saw were familiar to her. 852 00:48:49,359 --> 00:48:53,279 I have a longing for brewing her mate every morning, or her coffee. 853 00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,920 I miss the little things, you know? The routine... 854 00:49:00,240 --> 00:49:04,200 And the trips and daring to do new things. 855 00:49:04,839 --> 00:49:08,159 She took care of me, and I took care of her. It's like... 856 00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,560 I don't know if "longing" is the right word. 857 00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:13,240 I "miss" her. 858 00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:15,920 I mean, I can feel she's missing. 859 00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:27,840 I never spent another night in this house. 860 00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:32,080 And at the beginning of April, I sold it. 861 00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:36,640 The buyer is a friend. 862 00:49:37,839 --> 00:49:41,399 And besides, I told him, "I'm happy it was you who bought it 863 00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:44,480 because this will mean continuity for me." 864 00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,040 Besides, he'll let me visit whenever I want. 865 00:49:56,839 --> 00:49:59,319 I was thinking about buying a house. 866 00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:02,880 It came up, speaking with Carlos, that he was about to sell, 867 00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,640 he was selling, he was negotiating, but it hadn't worked out. 868 00:50:05,720 --> 00:50:07,200 I told him, "I'm interested." 869 00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:12,120 So, I made up my mind, we settled in two minutes. 870 00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:15,040 And well, we went through with it. 871 00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:23,320 Really, in the last 15 years, the only reason I re-think the story 872 00:50:23,399 --> 00:50:27,879 is to see if I find some new detail which confirms what I always thought. 873 00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:29,680 I may find it here. 874 00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:41,200 I'd like... 875 00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:43,720 for this to have an end, 876 00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:47,880 a ruling, a conviction, something, 877 00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:49,520 for the sake of Argentina. 878 00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:52,000 Now, personally, I don't need it. 879 00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:56,040 Personally, I made a nice package, put a cute bow on it, 880 00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:57,920 and sent it out to the universe. 881 00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:01,280 Truth is, that after 17 years, 882 00:51:02,720 --> 00:51:06,360 it'd be strange if we could get-- 883 00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:10,840 Although there is evidence, I don't know, I don't. I hope so. 884 00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:12,200 Honestly, we... 885 00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:14,880 we were left with a bitter feeling 886 00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,520 of not knowing if we'll ever know what happened. 887 00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:21,160 For the truth to come out? Yes, I ask God for that every day. 888 00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:25,320 I ask God and the Holy Spirit, every day. Let it be so. 889 00:51:25,399 --> 00:51:27,239 My goal is to know who did it. 890 00:51:27,720 --> 00:51:29,480 That's what I'm living for. 891 00:51:30,240 --> 00:51:32,640 I think the day I don't have that goal anymore, 892 00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:35,360 you know... 893 00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:39,400 People are so confused, 894 00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:41,880 they wonder, "Will we ever know?" 895 00:51:42,799 --> 00:51:44,079 When in fact it is known. 896 00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,280 We know who did it 897 00:51:47,879 --> 00:51:52,119 and what each and every one of the accused did. 898 00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:54,000 So, will we know? We do know. 899 00:51:56,280 --> 00:52:00,320 Who killed María Marta, and why was she murdered? 900 00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:06,560 The comings and goings, 901 00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:11,000 the different stories and lies around María Marta García Belsunce's murder, 902 00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:12,280 are in here. 903 00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:17,560 The event was interpreted as an accidental death 904 00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:20,800 attributed to a slip in a tub. 905 00:52:20,879 --> 00:52:23,519 I always thought María Marta's death was an accident. 906 00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,960 I couldn't imagine anything else. The doctor confirmed it. 907 00:52:27,720 --> 00:52:30,440 Doubts. More and more doubts. 908 00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:32,960 The doctor who then told the family 909 00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:35,640 it wasn't an accidental death... 910 00:52:35,720 --> 00:52:38,680 The body had six gunshot wounds to the head. 911 00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:40,040 Which walls were washed? 912 00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:43,680 The investigation conducted on December 16th at Maria Marta's house 913 00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:47,560 showed that there was no blood on the walls in the house. 914 00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:51,120 They noticed blood stains on the walls, which had been washed. 915 00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:52,440 A family under suspicion. 916 00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:54,600 I find the famous "thingy." 917 00:52:57,399 --> 00:52:59,839 If a house was open, he went in and burglarized it. 918 00:52:59,920 --> 00:53:01,560 The lead pointing to the guards. 919 00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:04,680 There are suspicions about Pachelo's involvement. 920 00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,360 This is a crime of passion within the family. 921 00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:10,640 There was an omertá here, a pact of silence. 922 00:53:10,720 --> 00:53:13,120 She came back before she was supposed to, 923 00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,840 she found the burglar, and that cost her her life. 924 00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:19,160 I heard the .32 caliber had a six-bullet magazine. 925 00:53:19,240 --> 00:53:22,480 This means they emptied the magazine into her head. 926 00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:25,000 Some hypotheses are stronger than others. 927 00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,080 Each and every alibi they're presenting, 928 00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:30,280 and there's lots of them, fade like ghosts. 929 00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:35,480 Didn't anyone hear the gunshots? 930 00:55:05,799 --> 00:55:08,839 Horacio García Belsunce Jr., John Hurtig, and Sergio Binello, 931 00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:11,520 convicted for cover-up, appealed their convictions. 932 00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:13,320 They were acquitted in February 2020 933 00:55:13,399 --> 00:55:15,919 due to delays in the system to work out their appeals. 934 00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,960 Dr. Juan Ramón Gauvry Gordon was acquitted in 2015. 935 00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:21,680 Guillermo Bártoli, convicted for cover-up, 936 00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:25,360 passed away in 2014, before his appeal could be resolved. 937 00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:27,600 Irene Hurtig studied criminal law 938 00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:30,400 and, after her husband's death, she focused on her career. 939 00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:32,000 She was never subjected to trial. 940 00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:34,600 John Hurtig lives in the hills of Córdoba. 941 00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:39,360 Horacio García Belsunce Jr. lives in Pilar and has a local radio show. 942 00:55:39,839 --> 00:55:41,959 Carlos Carrascosa's acquittal has been appealed 943 00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,680 by the Buenos Aires Province Public Prosecution Ministry. 944 00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:48,560 Diego Molina Pico is still a prosecutor 945 00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:51,080 in the judicial department of San Isidro. 946 00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:56,560 A new trial will be held for the murder of María Marta, 947 00:55:56,640 --> 00:56:01,560 with Nicolás Pachelo and two watchmen as the main defendants. 948 00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:30,440 Subtitle translation by: M. 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