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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:11,898 --> 00:00:21,898 Translation and subtitles by PEPPER & LALASPAIN *** SONG LIVES FOR EVER *** 2 00:00:56,572 --> 00:00:58,722 United Kingdom? 3 00:01:00,198 --> 00:01:02,683 [wind blowing] 4 00:01:16,386 --> 00:01:19,113 [waves crashing] 5 00:01:20,521 --> 00:01:23,136 It's just basically an island, 6 00:01:23,161 --> 00:01:26,108 about 26 miles from France. 7 00:01:28,923 --> 00:01:32,128 By by by water. [chuckles] 8 00:01:34,353 --> 00:01:37,012 But I wouldn't go in a rowing boat. 9 00:01:38,788 --> 00:01:41,646 And I'd lock your lorry up if you're coming back. 10 00:01:42,077 --> 00:01:43,793 [laughing] 11 00:01:44,149 --> 00:01:46,806 I voted to leave... 12 00:01:46,831 --> 00:01:49,829 because I read a book once, 13 00:01:49,854 --> 00:01:53,622 and it said, it was about relationships. 14 00:01:53,622 --> 00:01:55,659 and it said: "Early in a relationship, 15 00:01:55,659 --> 00:01:57,707 people sometimes get 16 00:01:57,707 --> 00:02:00,864 an alarm bell ringing that it's not working out. 17 00:02:00,889 --> 00:02:03,060 But they choose to ignore it." 18 00:02:03,085 --> 00:02:08,279 And I saw that happening with us being in the EU. 19 00:02:08,279 --> 00:02:11,969 And it sounds ridiculous, but it was about a cucumber! 20 00:02:12,678 --> 00:02:15,515 The... I'm certain I read in the paper, 21 00:02:15,515 --> 00:02:18,463 much to my as... bemusement, 22 00:02:18,488 --> 00:02:22,622 that the EU was saying 23 00:02:22,622 --> 00:02:24,330 cucumbers were no long... 24 00:02:24,355 --> 00:02:26,492 the curly ones that were misshaped, 25 00:02:26,517 --> 00:02:27,796 that wasn't acceptable. 26 00:02:27,821 --> 00:02:31,230 They had to be a uniform shape and size. 27 00:02:31,254 --> 00:02:33,456 And that was the beginning for me. 28 00:02:33,456 --> 00:02:37,533 And little by little, I started to notice that, 29 00:02:37,533 --> 00:02:44,182 our sovereignty and democracy, as I saw it, was eroding. 30 00:02:53,943 --> 00:03:00,275 2016 was a year that... 31 00:03:01,044 --> 00:03:04,231 that will go down in history as the year... 32 00:03:04,359 --> 00:03:06,008 that yet again, 33 00:03:06,033 --> 00:03:09,234 the British destroyed the European Union. 34 00:03:09,844 --> 00:03:12,431 [water lapping the shore] 35 00:03:12,739 --> 00:03:15,765 2016 was a year... 36 00:03:16,165 --> 00:03:20,851 that finally the people got what they wanted. 37 00:03:24,181 --> 00:03:26,618 And 2016 was a year... 38 00:03:26,837 --> 00:03:28,926 that will go down in history 39 00:03:28,951 --> 00:03:32,796 as the biggest democratic vote the UK's ever undertaken. 40 00:03:36,644 --> 00:03:38,708 Some people are just struggling with... 41 00:03:38,708 --> 00:03:41,853 the circumstances that they are in themselves. 42 00:03:42,188 --> 00:03:44,981 And they just desperately need somebody to blame. 43 00:03:46,351 --> 00:03:49,973 Brexit was a mash-up of the words "Britain Exit." 44 00:03:49,998 --> 00:03:51,530 defining the... 45 00:03:51,839 --> 00:03:55,276 the case before Britain to leave the European Union. 46 00:03:55,300 --> 00:03:57,348 It happened in 2016... 47 00:03:57,373 --> 00:03:59,212 in the United Kingdom. 48 00:03:59,237 --> 00:04:01,775 The vote was whether or not Britain should leave or remain in the EU. 49 00:04:01,775 --> 00:04:05,214 And how that'd affect the country and mostly Europe. 50 00:04:05,279 --> 00:04:08,471 It does not affect where England would be 51 00:04:08,489 --> 00:04:10,460 geographically on the map, as many people would say, 52 00:04:10,460 --> 00:04:13,993 we're now out of Europe. That's just irrelevant. 53 00:04:13,993 --> 00:04:17,264 We'll always be part of Europe but not part of the European Union. 54 00:04:17,814 --> 00:04:22,942 Brexit was one a very rare opportunities, 55 00:04:22,967 --> 00:04:27,679 for people to say what they wanted to say or actually, 56 00:04:28,024 --> 00:04:30,362 it's one of these very rare opportunities 57 00:04:30,387 --> 00:04:33,447 where they could say "Fuck off" to the government. 58 00:04:34,169 --> 00:04:36,421 I didn't think that we'd leave. 59 00:04:36,506 --> 00:04:41,251 I thought the overall look would be to stay, you know. 60 00:04:41,538 --> 00:04:43,531 I was quite confused a little bit whether 61 00:04:43,531 --> 00:04:46,537 "Have I made the right decision? Have I made the wrong decision?" 62 00:04:46,642 --> 00:04:48,397 One of those kind of feelings. 63 00:04:48,397 --> 00:04:53,722 Well, I was quite surprised that Brexit got the vote. 64 00:04:53,747 --> 00:04:55,722 Very surprised indeed. 65 00:04:58,947 --> 00:05:01,019 I'm a pissed of Brit. 66 00:05:01,365 --> 00:05:03,155 I'm Ibrahim Ismail. 67 00:05:04,030 --> 00:05:06,363 I'm a Muslim and proud. 68 00:05:07,310 --> 00:05:09,048 I'm a Boltonian. 69 00:05:10,497 --> 00:05:13,345 From "Boltopia." 70 00:05:15,066 --> 00:05:16,498 Where are we? 71 00:05:16,523 --> 00:05:19,881 We're on a... we're on a precipice at the moment. 72 00:05:20,076 --> 00:05:23,956 And we can either fall or fly. 73 00:05:26,568 --> 00:05:29,384 If the "Remain" camp was Project Fear, 74 00:05:29,688 --> 00:05:34,092 then, in my opinion, a one-word, 75 00:05:34,566 --> 00:05:38,628 description of those who... 76 00:05:38,776 --> 00:05:43,666 voted to leave would be freedom-lovers. 77 00:05:46,181 --> 00:05:49,564 A terrible shock when I got up in the morning and... 78 00:05:50,063 --> 00:05:53,346 realized we were out. I just sat and cried. 79 00:05:53,696 --> 00:05:56,259 That's right, I cried, yeah? 80 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:58,901 My heart said "Out." 81 00:05:59,495 --> 00:06:02,179 But my head said "In", so I voted in. 82 00:06:02,963 --> 00:06:05,931 I'm Charlotte, I'm in London, 83 00:06:05,956 --> 00:06:07,909 and I voted for Brexit, 84 00:06:07,909 --> 00:06:10,076 and I support UKIP. 85 00:06:11,352 --> 00:06:15,810 People essentially want British money, British funds, 86 00:06:15,990 --> 00:06:19,509 British work to stay in Britain for Brits. 87 00:06:19,534 --> 00:06:23,039 And really, you can't complain about that. 88 00:06:23,349 --> 00:06:27,596 History tells us that any empire, 89 00:06:27,629 --> 00:06:30,558 from the Roman Empire, the Ottoman Empire, 90 00:06:30,562 --> 00:06:33,910 French Empire, the British Empire, the Soviet Empire. 91 00:06:33,935 --> 00:06:36,636 if an empire gets too big, it implodes. 92 00:06:36,661 --> 00:06:38,752 And I felt the European Union 93 00:06:38,752 --> 00:06:41,571 is too big and it is going to implode. 94 00:06:42,033 --> 00:06:45,096 At this age, it takes a lot to shock me. 95 00:06:45,131 --> 00:06:49,570 It's like "Where were you when President Kennedy was assassinated?" 96 00:06:49,570 --> 00:06:52,099 I'll always remember, I was filling the kettle and it said 97 00:06:52,099 --> 00:06:54,962 about it, you know, and I went... 98 00:06:54,987 --> 00:06:57,354 My jaw dropped, and... 99 00:06:57,448 --> 00:07:01,847 I was so proud of my fellow voters, 100 00:07:01,872 --> 00:07:05,923 and I thought, that will show the politicians, 101 00:07:06,001 --> 00:07:09,548 who think that we're a stupid bunch of shopkeepers, 102 00:07:09,548 --> 00:07:12,259 as Hitler said it, that we've got a mind, 103 00:07:12,259 --> 00:07:16,549 and we'll only take so much, and then it's... "No-no." 104 00:07:17,575 --> 00:07:20,306 Scotland is fucking raging 105 00:07:20,306 --> 00:07:22,344 over the EU referendum results. 106 00:07:22,369 --> 00:07:23,729 You only have to look 107 00:07:23,754 --> 00:07:25,843 at the map of where the results came from 108 00:07:25,868 --> 00:07:27,688 to see how Scotland voted 109 00:07:27,688 --> 00:07:29,801 versus how other parts of the UK voted. 110 00:07:29,828 --> 00:07:33,208 And this is a consistent chain that we're seeing again and again 111 00:07:33,233 --> 00:07:35,231 as the UK votes collectively 112 00:07:35,231 --> 00:07:37,538 on really quite urgent issues. 113 00:07:40,842 --> 00:07:44,204 Here we are in Plymouth, welcome to Plymouth. 114 00:07:44,877 --> 00:07:47,847 And this is an area which would have voted 115 00:07:47,847 --> 00:07:51,050 which did vote predominantly for exit. 116 00:07:51,275 --> 00:07:54,717 It's a very easy area to... 117 00:07:56,393 --> 00:08:00,105 go out on a right wing sentiment of vote to push to the right 118 00:08:00,130 --> 00:08:03,246 because it's economically very vulnerable. 119 00:08:03,257 --> 00:08:05,625 It's very deprived. There's a lot of people, 120 00:08:05,625 --> 00:08:08,100 on zero-hour-contracts here. 121 00:08:08,108 --> 00:08:10,852 There's a lot of people who are being termed now, 122 00:08:10,852 --> 00:08:13,497 the JAMs, the "just about managing." 123 00:08:13,668 --> 00:08:17,449 They are working essentially to pay for food, 124 00:08:17,474 --> 00:08:20,224 rent and bills and that's it. 125 00:08:20,790 --> 00:08:23,146 Whether they're right or wrong, if you ask someone on the street, 126 00:08:23,171 --> 00:08:26,498 if... what they think about the state of Britain, most people will say, 127 00:08:26,498 --> 00:08:29,515 that it's declining, so they'd look for a change, whether it's... 128 00:08:29,515 --> 00:08:33,726 something they know as a definite or something that's just a chance. 129 00:08:34,909 --> 00:08:38,187 Unfortunately, I was unable to vote in the referendum, 130 00:08:38,207 --> 00:08:41,531 as I am under the age of 18. 131 00:08:42,879 --> 00:08:45,970 I think people are still shocked about the result in the end. 132 00:08:45,970 --> 00:08:46,894 They didn't expect it. 133 00:08:46,894 --> 00:08:49,838 They thought: " Okay, we'll put our opinions down and then actually... 134 00:08:49,849 --> 00:08:51,289 Maybe, obviously... 135 00:08:51,289 --> 00:08:52,699 the result turned out to be an exit. 136 00:08:52,699 --> 00:08:53,739 And it was quite a shock so, 137 00:08:53,739 --> 00:08:56,922 it's going to be a massive change in the country, I think, yeah... 138 00:08:58,988 --> 00:09:00,460 and people are merely... 139 00:09:00,485 --> 00:09:02,831 Not really decided, obviously, what's gonna happen 140 00:09:02,856 --> 00:09:04,512 We don't know exact... I mean we've left, 141 00:09:04,512 --> 00:09:05,986 fair enough, but officially, 142 00:09:06,476 --> 00:09:08,683 in a couple years' time once everything's get settled down, 143 00:09:08,683 --> 00:09:10,758 I think there's going to be massive changes 144 00:09:10,783 --> 00:09:13,420 where people haven't really thought about deeply, 145 00:09:13,820 --> 00:09:17,828 or haven't been told about of what actually it means. 146 00:09:17,828 --> 00:09:19,307 All change, as far as I'm concerned, 147 00:09:19,307 --> 00:09:21,699 all change is really, really good. 148 00:09:21,699 --> 00:09:24,585 All change creates movement, 149 00:09:24,585 --> 00:09:27,430 creates new money, creates new opportunities, 150 00:09:27,430 --> 00:09:30,613 and and that would be my personality, 151 00:09:30,613 --> 00:09:33,188 would be to just shut my eyes and jump and do it. 152 00:09:33,230 --> 00:09:35,436 We're just sick to the back teeth 153 00:09:35,436 --> 00:09:38,145 of the politicians turning around and saying to us: 154 00:09:38,145 --> 00:09:40,570 "Oh, you disagree with us?" 155 00:09:40,580 --> 00:09:43,093 "We're not getting her point across." 156 00:09:43,124 --> 00:09:46,151 "Oh, you don't understand the issues." 157 00:09:46,151 --> 00:09:47,166 "You've been lied to..." 158 00:09:47,166 --> 00:09:49,815 Well, no, the message is: "We do understand." 159 00:09:49,830 --> 00:09:51,249 "We're sick of your arrogance, 160 00:09:51,249 --> 00:09:53,404 we're sick of your not listening to us, 161 00:09:53,475 --> 00:09:57,409 and by voting to get out of Europe, 162 00:09:57,434 --> 00:10:00,989 we hoped to get rid of, at least one layer, 163 00:10:01,014 --> 00:10:03,037 of these arrogant parasites." 164 00:10:04,330 --> 00:10:07,487 Everybody thinks about the world in a way... 165 00:10:07,605 --> 00:10:09,715 of how it is now. 166 00:10:10,008 --> 00:10:13,492 And things in the world have only really been stable, 167 00:10:13,705 --> 00:10:15,343 and we've been lucky with that... 168 00:10:15,368 --> 00:10:18,596 in relatively pretty much just this century, 169 00:10:18,596 --> 00:10:20,324 in fact, not even that. 170 00:10:20,381 --> 00:10:24,874 And I think everybody's got very comfortable with the idea of stability. 171 00:10:25,624 --> 00:10:28,751 And I suppose I had a question in the back of my mind of 172 00:10:28,776 --> 00:10:32,966 what if the world becomes unstable? 173 00:10:33,448 --> 00:10:35,855 And in that circumstance... 174 00:10:39,759 --> 00:10:42,051 I'd want a government... 175 00:10:43,223 --> 00:10:47,140 where they're accountable to the people... 176 00:10:47,580 --> 00:10:49,814 who've voted for them. 177 00:10:49,839 --> 00:10:53,418 And I felt like the little man has more say... 178 00:10:53,514 --> 00:10:55,416 just to their own government, 179 00:10:55,416 --> 00:10:58,363 than a central giant European government, 180 00:10:58,363 --> 00:11:01,815 that's almost like a global conglomerate. 181 00:11:01,888 --> 00:11:03,916 I mean I got called uneducated. 182 00:11:03,951 --> 00:11:05,832 I was an un... an uneducated man, 183 00:11:05,970 --> 00:11:08,141 by a lady in the office, and... 184 00:11:08,195 --> 00:11:10,064 But everyone's... 185 00:11:10,579 --> 00:11:12,870 Everyone's entitled to their vote. 186 00:11:12,885 --> 00:11:15,528 That's the beauty, you know, of the UK, 187 00:11:15,566 --> 00:11:16,962 the British government, you know. 188 00:11:16,987 --> 00:11:18,966 You're entitled to your vote, and you have a right to vote, 189 00:11:18,966 --> 00:11:20,116 and it does matter whichever you vote for, 190 00:11:20,131 --> 00:11:22,114 but you've still got your own opinion. 191 00:11:23,262 --> 00:11:24,750 I think... 192 00:11:25,348 --> 00:11:28,455 Remain voters are smarter than Leave voters. 193 00:11:28,460 --> 00:11:29,971 And that makes me a snob? 194 00:11:29,996 --> 00:11:31,048 Fine! 195 00:11:31,073 --> 00:11:33,993 I think the Leave vote... 196 00:11:34,174 --> 00:11:37,331 was very enticing because it's simultaneously 197 00:11:37,331 --> 00:11:39,314 rebellious and patriotic. 198 00:11:39,339 --> 00:11:41,340 It takes a fuck load of boxes 199 00:11:41,365 --> 00:11:43,386 for someone who's driven by emotion 200 00:11:43,411 --> 00:11:45,541 and doesn't really understand what's going on. 201 00:11:45,566 --> 00:11:46,715 I think... 202 00:11:47,558 --> 00:11:49,475 Remain voters, 203 00:11:49,680 --> 00:11:54,156 I think it's harder to come to a pro-Remain decision, 204 00:11:54,181 --> 00:11:56,039 because it takes more work, 205 00:11:56,064 --> 00:11:57,896 it takes more reading. 206 00:11:57,923 --> 00:12:00,889 Very few people have an emotional connection to the EU, 207 00:12:00,914 --> 00:12:03,870 because by definition it's this large... 208 00:12:03,939 --> 00:12:05,597 relatively faceless body. 209 00:12:05,622 --> 00:12:07,687 Because it's an administrative body, 210 00:12:07,712 --> 00:12:10,138 and that's what they like, that's what they are. 211 00:12:10,861 --> 00:12:12,861 One of the crazy regulations, 212 00:12:12,886 --> 00:12:15,342 that the EU imposed on the sheep industry 213 00:12:15,342 --> 00:12:17,443 is the electronic tally. 214 00:12:17,820 --> 00:12:20,168 And you will see the sheep behind us. 215 00:12:20,485 --> 00:12:22,417 They have a tag in each ear. 216 00:12:22,448 --> 00:12:24,696 The yellow one is an electronic 217 00:12:24,721 --> 00:12:28,280 chip with an individual ID. 218 00:12:28,322 --> 00:12:32,165 The other tag is exactly the same without the chip. 219 00:12:32,555 --> 00:12:35,265 Well, one tag would have done. 220 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:38,427 We get problems with fly strike. 221 00:12:38,452 --> 00:12:40,060 The tags fall out. 222 00:12:40,281 --> 00:12:41,692 So... 223 00:12:42,850 --> 00:12:45,314 It's been successful in a way... 224 00:12:45,907 --> 00:12:48,572 But one tag's fine. 225 00:12:48,597 --> 00:12:51,674 Two tags are so very unnecessary. 226 00:12:52,095 --> 00:12:54,775 Over 60% of the fish caught... 227 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,684 within the whole of Europe is caught within British waters. 228 00:12:57,684 --> 00:12:59,399 So this area, this is area seven, 229 00:12:59,399 --> 00:13:01,081 stretches from the Davis Straight, 230 00:13:01,106 --> 00:13:02,987 right round through to the Isle of Man. 231 00:13:03,016 --> 00:13:06,914 And in that area the UK can take 12% of the catch. 232 00:13:06,958 --> 00:13:09,098 So, if you compare that with, say France, 233 00:13:09,098 --> 00:13:10,812 who we share the English Channel with, 234 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:12,249 and share these waters with... 235 00:13:12,274 --> 00:13:15,771 France can take 60% of the European shares. 236 00:13:15,796 --> 00:13:17,297 So for a long time, 237 00:13:17,322 --> 00:13:21,929 as fishermen we felt that we had a very bad deal. 238 00:13:21,970 --> 00:13:25,785 Europeans living in the UK were not allowed to vote 239 00:13:25,810 --> 00:13:28,539 in the referendum on Brexit, 240 00:13:28,897 --> 00:13:30,701 which is fine, you know? 241 00:13:30,726 --> 00:13:32,609 They're not hosts there. 242 00:13:32,609 --> 00:13:33,937 They haven't got a British passport. 243 00:13:33,937 --> 00:13:37,106 They're just guests, you know, coming an living and going. 244 00:13:37,131 --> 00:13:38,296 That's fine. 245 00:13:39,508 --> 00:13:42,516 If they were, you know, allowed to vote, 246 00:13:42,541 --> 00:13:44,101 the result would probably be different. 247 00:13:44,126 --> 00:13:46,021 If I was allowed to vote... 248 00:13:47,857 --> 00:13:50,313 I would vote to leave. 249 00:13:51,223 --> 00:13:53,086 Funny enough. 250 00:13:53,111 --> 00:13:54,501 Before we went into Europe, 251 00:13:54,526 --> 00:13:56,563 we was the second richest country in the world. 252 00:13:56,588 --> 00:13:58,375 All we ever do in this country, 253 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:01,264 is give, give, give, give, give, give, give. 254 00:14:01,289 --> 00:14:02,696 When were in the EU, 255 00:14:02,696 --> 00:14:06,155 you know, Poland's economy in factories is fried, 256 00:14:06,180 --> 00:14:07,865 and yet we're still given them, like... 257 00:14:07,890 --> 00:14:10,915 all that money, millions and millions of pounds. 258 00:14:10,940 --> 00:14:14,288 Every time something happens in the world Britain 259 00:14:14,812 --> 00:14:18,251 helps out well why should we? No one ever helps us. 260 00:14:18,251 --> 00:14:19,796 My parents came from Ghana... 261 00:14:19,821 --> 00:14:23,564 and they came when in the 20's and it was really really hard. 262 00:14:23,589 --> 00:14:27,977 But... and for them to... they hadn't didn't have many opportunities 263 00:14:27,977 --> 00:14:29,807 and they worked really hard and worked the way up. 264 00:14:29,807 --> 00:14:33,309 My Mom's a teacher, my Dad works in town planning. 265 00:14:33,493 --> 00:14:36,038 And I can understand their reasons for voting out. 266 00:14:36,063 --> 00:14:37,754 Because over the years they keep saying 267 00:14:37,754 --> 00:14:40,040 how much easier it is for people who come over here 268 00:14:40,065 --> 00:14:41,541 and go straight away on benefits. 269 00:14:41,541 --> 00:14:43,855 They come over here and they don't... 270 00:14:43,855 --> 00:14:45,860 all they've got to do is get pregnant and they get given a house 271 00:14:45,860 --> 00:14:49,666 whereas people already in this country who need it don't get it. 272 00:14:49,666 --> 00:14:51,731 So it was more the... 273 00:14:51,929 --> 00:14:53,840 Would I say the piss takers? The mickey...! 274 00:14:53,865 --> 00:14:56,386 The ones that take the mickey out of the system. 275 00:14:56,411 --> 00:14:59,723 That's what confuted my Mum's reason for voting out. 276 00:14:59,748 --> 00:15:03,252 I wouldn't say that I'm a particular fan of the European Union, 277 00:15:03,277 --> 00:15:05,905 and that, you know, it's a neoliberal institution. 278 00:15:05,905 --> 00:15:07,755 It isn't very good at supporting 279 00:15:07,780 --> 00:15:10,795 ordinary working class people in their rights. 280 00:15:10,835 --> 00:15:11,801 But I wasn't in it... 281 00:15:11,826 --> 00:15:14,313 it wasn't an election about whether I like it or not. 282 00:15:14,338 --> 00:15:18,027 It was about an election whether we remain within it or not. 283 00:15:18,075 --> 00:15:21,437 So I voted remain for a number of reasons, 284 00:15:21,437 --> 00:15:23,667 largely because the election as it ended up being, 285 00:15:23,667 --> 00:15:27,328 wasn't an election about whether we remain or leave the European Union. 286 00:15:27,353 --> 00:15:29,805 But it became an election about immigration. 287 00:15:32,129 --> 00:15:34,757 Political correctness influenced the Brexit vote 288 00:15:34,757 --> 00:15:37,914 by making large sections of the population 289 00:15:37,914 --> 00:15:41,250 who had perfectly reasonable concerns about immigration 290 00:15:41,250 --> 00:15:43,114 feel as though they were not even able 291 00:15:43,114 --> 00:15:45,580 to open their mouths to voice these opinions, 292 00:15:45,605 --> 00:15:49,458 for fear of being shouted down by their contemporaries, 293 00:15:49,458 --> 00:15:51,524 for fear of possibly even being criminalized 294 00:15:51,524 --> 00:15:53,780 if they express this on social media 295 00:15:53,780 --> 00:15:55,924 or in any other published form. 296 00:15:55,949 --> 00:15:57,510 And I think... 297 00:15:57,535 --> 00:16:00,968 you have what is now really the silent majority 298 00:16:00,993 --> 00:16:03,336 of the people who want to say these things, 299 00:16:03,361 --> 00:16:06,896 but feel so restricted by the culture that we're living in, 300 00:16:06,896 --> 00:16:10,185 that they have no way to express their opinions. 301 00:16:11,964 --> 00:16:17,299 I think the UK as an open country. 302 00:16:17,321 --> 00:16:20,586 They don't want, we don't want to... 303 00:16:21,357 --> 00:16:25,041 And I'm gonna use... it's white people aren't allowed to be... 304 00:16:25,066 --> 00:16:26,838 They're the only people that can't be racist. 305 00:16:26,838 --> 00:16:28,482 Everybody else can say what to think. 306 00:16:28,482 --> 00:16:30,183 White people aren't allowed to say what they think 307 00:16:30,183 --> 00:16:31,774 because they're gonna be a racist. 308 00:16:31,957 --> 00:16:37,009 I think Britain, they don't want our freedom 309 00:16:37,034 --> 00:16:40,857 and express freedom of expression of speech. 310 00:16:40,882 --> 00:16:43,869 We can say what we like... within reason obviously, you know. 311 00:16:43,894 --> 00:16:47,665 But... all of a sudden there's a lot of 312 00:16:47,665 --> 00:16:51,701 Muslim people coming in who have different values. 313 00:16:51,751 --> 00:16:54,458 They treat their women different. They treat, ahm... 314 00:16:54,709 --> 00:16:57,624 society different and people are afraid. 315 00:16:57,756 --> 00:17:01,827 You know, they're saying... because these people do not value life. 316 00:17:01,852 --> 00:17:03,400 They value death. 317 00:17:03,425 --> 00:17:07,840 And... I don't mean all of them, you know, I just mean the radicals. 318 00:17:07,865 --> 00:17:12,767 But people just feel they're all radicals and they're not. 319 00:17:12,767 --> 00:17:17,015 People act... whenever you're scared, people would worry. 320 00:17:17,050 --> 00:17:19,193 But no, we like... 321 00:17:19,753 --> 00:17:24,131 Personally as a Brit, I like the Royal family. 322 00:17:24,156 --> 00:17:26,151 I like the pomp and circumstance. 323 00:17:26,151 --> 00:17:29,173 I like the uniforms, I like the military. 324 00:17:29,198 --> 00:17:33,439 I just was always proud to be British, 325 00:17:33,439 --> 00:17:37,457 very proud to be British and it's being eroded away. 326 00:17:37,457 --> 00:17:42,865 You know, the fact that you have to go to Brussels to ask: 327 00:17:42,865 --> 00:17:45,728 "Can you do stuff?" 328 00:17:45,753 --> 00:17:47,251 I'm not... 329 00:17:48,875 --> 00:17:52,192 learned up enough on it to know what, 330 00:17:52,423 --> 00:17:55,768 you know, give you a specific but, ahm... 331 00:17:56,756 --> 00:18:00,387 I just think somebody needs to be accountable if something 332 00:18:00,412 --> 00:18:02,359 has cocked up if it goes wrong. 333 00:18:02,384 --> 00:18:04,682 We can vote out if our government's not working. 334 00:18:04,682 --> 00:18:06,914 We can vote them out and put somebody else in. 335 00:18:06,939 --> 00:18:12,116 If Brussels cock up, your stuck with them. 336 00:18:14,265 --> 00:18:16,405 The very next day after Brexit we experienced 337 00:18:16,405 --> 00:18:18,821 the backlash almost straightaway. 338 00:18:18,821 --> 00:18:21,583 It was the very next morning driving to school. 339 00:18:21,583 --> 00:18:23,895 Coming up to school is a busy rush. 340 00:18:23,895 --> 00:18:26,001 The traffic is absolutely awful 341 00:18:26,001 --> 00:18:28,762 and there was somebody behind me was trying to get passed. 342 00:18:28,762 --> 00:18:30,833 I pulled over onto the side to help them get passed. 343 00:18:30,833 --> 00:18:34,216 So then he pulled up alongside me, put his window down 344 00:18:34,216 --> 00:18:36,494 and it was the absolute most foul abuse. 345 00:18:38,634 --> 00:18:40,498 I thought if I had stepped out of the car 346 00:18:40,498 --> 00:18:41,913 I thought I would get attacked. 347 00:18:41,913 --> 00:18:44,053 And it was basically that we voted out 348 00:18:44,053 --> 00:18:49,058 why are you still here in really awful terms. 349 00:18:50,198 --> 00:18:51,647 But it was the first time that my daughter 350 00:18:51,647 --> 00:18:55,134 has ever experienced racial abuse in her 12 years. 351 00:18:55,134 --> 00:18:56,825 And she was absolutely horrified. 352 00:18:56,825 --> 00:18:58,723 She was shaken to the core. 353 00:18:58,723 --> 00:19:00,587 She didn't sleep for a good two, 354 00:19:00,587 --> 00:19:02,175 three weeks properly afterwards. 355 00:19:02,175 --> 00:19:04,073 She was very very, she was waking up 356 00:19:04,073 --> 00:19:06,938 at night screaming having nightmares. 357 00:19:06,938 --> 00:19:10,045 She wasn't sure what about but she knew 358 00:19:10,045 --> 00:19:11,840 that she was feeling unsafe. 359 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:13,359 She'd heard things at school. 360 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:16,983 She had Polish friends, English friends, Asian friends 361 00:19:16,983 --> 00:19:19,572 and nobody knew what was going to happen. 362 00:19:19,572 --> 00:19:21,988 And because she had experienced this the very next day 363 00:19:21,988 --> 00:19:25,371 and a number of occasions after that she 364 00:19:26,993 --> 00:19:28,408 was absolutely traumatized. 365 00:19:34,034 --> 00:19:37,348 I think we ended up leaving voting leave because 366 00:19:38,832 --> 00:19:41,490 there were a lot more people in the country that live in 367 00:19:42,733 --> 00:19:44,631 different circumstances than big cities. 368 00:19:44,631 --> 00:19:47,393 Most of the big cities voted to remain. 369 00:19:48,842 --> 00:19:50,706 But a lot of the people that live in smaller towns 370 00:19:50,706 --> 00:19:53,813 and out in the country are really affected by 371 00:19:55,297 --> 00:19:56,919 the recession and I think they blame 372 00:19:56,919 --> 00:19:58,473 a lot of Europe for everything. 373 00:19:59,819 --> 00:20:04,341 And a lot of them aren't cosmopolitan as big cities are. 374 00:20:05,756 --> 00:20:09,829 And there is a lot of racism, and a lot of thinking that 375 00:20:12,141 --> 00:20:15,179 the refugees and migrants and it's all that 376 00:20:15,179 --> 00:20:17,181 in the press about them all coming over. 377 00:20:18,700 --> 00:20:20,805 And I think that's why I think 378 00:20:20,805 --> 00:20:22,773 they just didn't want them to come. 379 00:20:22,773 --> 00:20:24,188 They thought that leaving Europe 380 00:20:24,188 --> 00:20:26,501 would stop it, which isn't true. 381 00:20:27,709 --> 00:20:29,366 A lot of assumptions made about 382 00:20:29,366 --> 00:20:31,299 people who voted to leave as well. 383 00:20:32,369 --> 00:20:35,579 About it being predominantly a racist 384 00:20:35,579 --> 00:20:37,960 anti-immigration xenophobic vote. 385 00:20:39,617 --> 00:20:43,828 And I think that's been very misguided very ill though out. 386 00:20:43,828 --> 00:20:48,212 And motivated by the fear that's been generated 387 00:20:48,212 --> 00:20:51,180 quite deliberately by those who wanted us to stay in. 388 00:20:52,872 --> 00:20:55,357 Now the reason why it's almost 389 00:20:56,945 --> 00:20:58,429 it's badly motivated but it's 390 00:21:00,189 --> 00:21:02,261 more importantly it's incorrect and that's 391 00:21:02,261 --> 00:21:04,608 the important thing really is it's just plain wrong. 392 00:21:04,608 --> 00:21:07,887 There are not 17 and a half million racists in Britain. 393 00:21:07,887 --> 00:21:09,647 Just isn't true. 394 00:21:09,647 --> 00:21:12,788 Everyone's frightened, afraid of not haven't control 395 00:21:12,788 --> 00:21:16,516 and not many people coming into the UK. 396 00:21:16,516 --> 00:21:19,036 And it's making a big difference. 397 00:21:19,036 --> 00:21:20,486 It's hitting the NHS. 398 00:21:20,486 --> 00:21:22,971 It's hitting even just around here the dentists 399 00:21:22,971 --> 00:21:24,455 and everything we can't get in 400 00:21:24,455 --> 00:21:26,837 because if we can't cope with the influx of people. 401 00:21:28,252 --> 00:21:31,290 It's a very small country with a quite a large population 402 00:21:31,290 --> 00:21:36,295 and the resources are just being stretched too much. 403 00:21:41,334 --> 00:21:45,373 It's all about territorial. 404 00:21:45,373 --> 00:21:46,857 It's the same with animals isn't it? 405 00:21:46,857 --> 00:21:48,893 If a dog is in its garden another dog 406 00:21:48,893 --> 00:21:51,896 comes into the garden it's invading its territory. 407 00:21:51,896 --> 00:21:53,795 It's the same kind of deal I think. 408 00:21:53,795 --> 00:21:55,452 People are a bit afraid of it. 409 00:21:55,452 --> 00:21:59,456 I must admit I'd be afraid of that myself, being invaded. 410 00:22:00,940 --> 00:22:02,424 In the Northeast I'm from a white 411 00:22:02,424 --> 00:22:06,014 working class estate in the West End of Newcastle. 412 00:22:06,014 --> 00:22:09,673 And everybody that lives there is still white I would argue. 413 00:22:09,673 --> 00:22:12,503 And after the election I went and had a pint with my dad 414 00:22:12,503 --> 00:22:15,126 in the working men's club and had a conversation there. 415 00:22:15,126 --> 00:22:17,232 Nearly all voted to leave. 416 00:22:17,232 --> 00:22:18,475 Why did you vote to leave? 417 00:22:18,475 --> 00:22:21,063 Well because of all the immigrants coming here 418 00:22:21,063 --> 00:22:23,238 taking our jobs and our houses. 419 00:22:23,238 --> 00:22:26,655 And I said to them well what immigrant do you know? 420 00:22:27,587 --> 00:22:28,623 I don't know any. 421 00:22:28,623 --> 00:22:30,728 So who do has lost their house 422 00:22:30,728 --> 00:22:32,523 or their job to an immigrant? 423 00:22:32,523 --> 00:22:33,766 Well I don't know anyone. 424 00:22:33,766 --> 00:22:37,148 Right okay so why have you lost your job? 425 00:22:37,148 --> 00:22:38,529 Well because the place shut down. 426 00:22:38,529 --> 00:22:40,428 Why did the place shut down? 427 00:22:40,428 --> 00:22:41,705 Because of the recession. 428 00:22:41,705 --> 00:22:43,292 What caused the recession? 429 00:22:43,292 --> 00:22:44,397 Bankers. 430 00:22:44,397 --> 00:22:46,261 Alright so it's bankers and not migrants 431 00:22:46,261 --> 00:22:47,538 then that's caused this problem. 432 00:22:47,538 --> 00:22:49,195 So I don't think it's a difficult argument 433 00:22:49,195 --> 00:22:51,473 to have with working class communities. 434 00:22:51,473 --> 00:22:56,064 Now let's just say everyone in the EU out you go. 435 00:22:56,064 --> 00:22:59,067 So that'd be two million jobs free. 436 00:22:59,067 --> 00:23:01,621 Now the agencies take a lot of the money. 437 00:23:02,726 --> 00:23:04,486 they pay the minimum wage and take 438 00:23:04,486 --> 00:23:06,937 a huge amount of that person's money. 439 00:23:08,076 --> 00:23:10,492 But British people won't put up with it. 440 00:23:10,492 --> 00:23:12,839 So the agency has a choice. 441 00:23:12,839 --> 00:23:16,118 I go into an agency and I say let's say in two years time 442 00:23:16,118 --> 00:23:20,433 once that 50, paper 50 or article 50's been done 443 00:23:21,330 --> 00:23:23,367 and I go to an agency and I say 444 00:23:23,367 --> 00:23:25,127 I'm interested in that job in the window. 445 00:23:25,127 --> 00:23:28,545 And they say okay well it's only paying the minimum wage. 446 00:23:28,545 --> 00:23:29,994 You say nah I want eight quid an hour. 447 00:23:29,994 --> 00:23:31,893 Well we can't pay that. 448 00:23:31,893 --> 00:23:34,033 I say okay go and get a Polish person. 449 00:23:34,033 --> 00:23:36,656 Oh shit you can't they're not here anymore. 450 00:23:36,656 --> 00:23:37,726 They've all gone back. 451 00:23:39,348 --> 00:23:42,455 With things like immigration and influx of 452 00:23:42,455 --> 00:23:47,460 people from Europe they probably are scared 453 00:23:49,082 --> 00:23:51,533 that their home area where there isn't many immigrants 454 00:23:51,533 --> 00:23:55,123 will become like London losing 455 00:23:57,194 --> 00:24:00,439 its country's identity as it were because 456 00:24:00,439 --> 00:24:04,097 let's be honest London is not an English town. 457 00:24:05,685 --> 00:24:07,791 London is a bit of a paradox. 458 00:24:07,791 --> 00:24:12,312 London has some exceedingly wealthy people 459 00:24:13,555 --> 00:24:15,626 living almost right across the street 460 00:24:15,626 --> 00:24:17,456 from some exceedingly poor. 461 00:24:18,940 --> 00:24:23,910 When I go to London I don't meet many Londoners anymore. 462 00:24:24,842 --> 00:24:26,982 And that's a big shame and that's 463 00:24:26,982 --> 00:24:30,261 also another reason for Brexit I think 464 00:24:30,261 --> 00:24:35,232 that people will want Britain to stay Britain 465 00:24:35,232 --> 00:24:37,476 to stay England they don't want it to 466 00:24:37,476 --> 00:24:41,928 become an amalgamation of the rest of Europe 467 00:24:41,928 --> 00:24:45,863 where we are rightly very proud of the things that are here. 468 00:24:47,762 --> 00:24:49,384 We're very lucky where we are. 469 00:24:51,248 --> 00:24:56,218 In Northumberland it's highly unlikely that 470 00:24:56,218 --> 00:24:58,566 there's gonna be a terrorist attack up here. 471 00:24:58,566 --> 00:25:02,639 But it has got a massive effect on people. 472 00:25:02,639 --> 00:25:05,020 There was a lady that wouldn't, 473 00:25:05,020 --> 00:25:06,366 she won't get on an airplane anymore. 474 00:25:06,366 --> 00:25:08,023 So she goes on holiday she goes on a bus. 475 00:25:09,162 --> 00:25:11,475 I think it's been bubbling up for 476 00:25:11,475 --> 00:25:16,376 a long long time for many years since 477 00:25:17,826 --> 00:25:22,659 the day when I was about 10 or 11 and the 9/11 happened. 478 00:25:27,629 --> 00:25:32,634 Yeah the refugees are not all refugees we're seeing that 479 00:25:34,015 --> 00:25:35,534 if they were all refugees you would have this 480 00:25:35,534 --> 00:25:39,538 I would think you would have women, children, and men. 481 00:25:39,538 --> 00:25:41,229 You see him them not so much children 482 00:25:41,229 --> 00:25:44,163 but women and man you would have equal amounts. 483 00:25:44,163 --> 00:25:47,338 The thought is we've seen the videos. 484 00:25:47,338 --> 00:25:49,548 It's all males. 485 00:25:49,548 --> 00:25:53,793 I would say in 30 not all but the vast majority of them. 486 00:25:54,863 --> 00:25:56,624 And they aren't refugees. 487 00:25:58,729 --> 00:26:00,593 [Interviewer] What are they? 488 00:26:00,593 --> 00:26:02,146 They're the part of this, 489 00:26:02,146 --> 00:26:06,288 I think they're a part of this Isis plan for to get 490 00:26:09,878 --> 00:26:13,675 a strong foothold in Europe and then enter the UK. 491 00:26:15,125 --> 00:26:16,298 And that's been proven. 492 00:26:18,438 --> 00:26:20,509 I think growing up in Northern Ireland 493 00:26:20,509 --> 00:26:22,581 made me realize that 494 00:26:24,203 --> 00:26:28,000 terrorism isn't something that brown people do exclusively. 495 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,072 That white people are also capable of terrorism. 496 00:26:31,072 --> 00:26:32,314 I think that's important for the 497 00:26:32,314 --> 00:26:34,834 rest of the world to realize. 498 00:26:36,595 --> 00:26:40,599 It made me understand how communities 499 00:26:40,599 --> 00:26:43,153 can be completely divided. 500 00:26:44,672 --> 00:26:49,159 And why the state has an interest in dividing communities. 501 00:26:50,367 --> 00:26:52,749 And how the division of different groups 502 00:26:52,749 --> 00:26:57,374 of people actually helps the state 503 00:26:57,374 --> 00:26:59,169 and a way the state encourages that. 504 00:27:00,342 --> 00:27:02,413 The important thing to remember is that 505 00:27:02,413 --> 00:27:04,692 I don't have a political degree and neither does 506 00:27:05,624 --> 00:27:08,109 millions of people that voted. 507 00:27:08,109 --> 00:27:09,558 It's all about public opinion. 508 00:27:09,558 --> 00:27:14,184 So if you can sway that by making people feel like they're 509 00:27:14,184 --> 00:27:17,049 benefiting something or actually making it change 510 00:27:17,049 --> 00:27:18,567 then it doesn't matter what they vote for 511 00:27:18,567 --> 00:27:21,363 as long as they feel like they're making a difference. 512 00:27:21,363 --> 00:27:24,573 Last week there is a poll taken that said 513 00:27:24,573 --> 00:27:27,818 that 33% of people feel the Brexit is the most important 514 00:27:27,818 --> 00:27:30,165 issue facing government over the next three years. 515 00:27:30,165 --> 00:27:34,100 57% of people think it's the NHS. 516 00:27:35,274 --> 00:27:36,896 And that should tell you something as well 517 00:27:36,896 --> 00:27:38,242 about what using the NHS to manipulate 518 00:27:38,242 --> 00:27:40,313 people during a referendum campaign, 519 00:27:40,313 --> 00:27:42,177 what sort of impact that that would have. 520 00:27:42,177 --> 00:27:44,248 And it's people's number one concern 521 00:27:44,248 --> 00:27:47,527 and ironically it is probably not going to be addressed 522 00:27:47,527 --> 00:27:49,668 in the next 10 years if we continue with 523 00:27:49,668 --> 00:27:52,636 the plan to leave the European Union because government 524 00:27:52,636 --> 00:27:54,845 somebody won't have time for any other priority. 525 00:27:54,845 --> 00:27:59,298 As a young person who supported UKIP who supports UKIP 526 00:28:00,713 --> 00:28:05,062 and who voted for Brexit in the referendum I feel that 527 00:28:06,512 --> 00:28:09,895 I am not part of the norm for young people because 528 00:28:09,895 --> 00:28:13,036 I don't listen to everything that the media tells me. 529 00:28:13,036 --> 00:28:17,661 I've learnt to be skeptical about what the media says. 530 00:28:17,661 --> 00:28:21,769 That pretty much includes all aspects of media 531 00:28:21,769 --> 00:28:23,771 whether that be the Sun newspaper, 532 00:28:23,771 --> 00:28:27,775 The Independent, The Guardian, Daily Mail. 533 00:28:27,775 --> 00:28:32,020 And I came to the conclusion that I came to 534 00:28:32,020 --> 00:28:34,713 because I did my own research. 535 00:28:34,713 --> 00:28:36,715 I looked at the UK policies. 536 00:28:37,854 --> 00:28:40,546 I didn't just judged by what the headlines 537 00:28:40,546 --> 00:28:43,307 were saying about UKIP because at the end of the day 538 00:28:43,307 --> 00:28:47,449 the media is very sensationalist and it's designed 539 00:28:47,449 --> 00:28:51,108 to get to build reactions out of people. 540 00:28:52,627 --> 00:28:56,942 When you're part of the EU any countries joining the EU 541 00:28:56,942 --> 00:29:01,878 then you have to to allow these people in. 542 00:29:03,327 --> 00:29:07,159 So on the pipeline was gonna be Turkey, Macedonia, Croatia. 543 00:29:07,159 --> 00:29:09,540 I mean so how many people can you take? 544 00:29:09,540 --> 00:29:12,095 How many jobs is there in this country? 545 00:29:15,719 --> 00:29:16,893 How is the benefits and stuff like that? 546 00:29:16,893 --> 00:29:18,032 Are they taking our benefits? 547 00:29:18,032 --> 00:29:19,309 Are they taking our jobs? 548 00:29:20,689 --> 00:29:23,554 If they're born in Britain and be of British 549 00:29:24,935 --> 00:29:29,802 parent parentage yes they've got a right to be here. 550 00:29:30,976 --> 00:29:32,840 They've got a right to claim benefits. 551 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:37,810 But they also should have a right to the jobs. 552 00:29:37,810 --> 00:29:39,881 Now they can't have the jobs if other people 553 00:29:39,881 --> 00:29:42,746 from other other countries have taken them jobs. 554 00:29:42,746 --> 00:29:45,922 So basically that's the only way 555 00:29:47,302 --> 00:29:50,719 the open borders actually have any 556 00:29:53,308 --> 00:29:55,794 ruling on who gets jobs. 557 00:29:57,381 --> 00:29:59,452 Because if you got a load of foreigners 558 00:29:59,452 --> 00:30:01,627 coming in the country and taking all the jobs 559 00:30:01,627 --> 00:30:03,456 no job is left for the British. 560 00:30:04,664 --> 00:30:06,356 Where does it leave the British people? 561 00:30:07,806 --> 00:30:08,979 So I have friends that 562 00:30:10,878 --> 00:30:12,120 have been out of work for some time 563 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:13,881 or were out of work for some time. 564 00:30:13,881 --> 00:30:15,814 And they'd always refused to work in a factory 565 00:30:15,814 --> 00:30:18,057 or a sandwich packing plant or in a field 566 00:30:18,057 --> 00:30:20,301 because they feel like it's the last type 567 00:30:20,301 --> 00:30:22,268 because there's nowhere to go from that. 568 00:30:22,268 --> 00:30:24,132 You can't go up and you can't gain qualifications 569 00:30:24,132 --> 00:30:26,169 or you might not find a better place. 570 00:30:26,169 --> 00:30:28,585 So they actively remain unemployed 571 00:30:28,585 --> 00:30:30,138 in search of something better. 572 00:30:30,138 --> 00:30:31,657 And then I have Eastern European friends 573 00:30:31,657 --> 00:30:33,659 which has taken these jobs and then going back 574 00:30:33,659 --> 00:30:35,661 to my first friends they said that they can't get a job 575 00:30:35,661 --> 00:30:37,214 because that job in the field or a packing plant 576 00:30:37,214 --> 00:30:39,458 might have been taken by an Eastern European. 577 00:30:40,873 --> 00:30:42,737 It'd be great to give everybody a job wouldn't it? 578 00:30:42,737 --> 00:30:44,601 Give them self self worth to be 579 00:30:44,601 --> 00:30:46,016 able to make their own money? 580 00:30:47,224 --> 00:30:48,950 Maybe that's what they think about 581 00:30:48,950 --> 00:30:50,572 when they think about coming to England. 582 00:30:50,572 --> 00:30:53,403 Which is a dream isn't it hope? 583 00:30:54,818 --> 00:30:56,820 What kept them people alive on those boats 584 00:30:56,820 --> 00:30:59,892 that come across the channel in grease dying in the sea? 585 00:30:59,892 --> 00:31:00,893 That bitter hope. 586 00:31:02,377 --> 00:31:04,483 And let's give it to them if that's what they want. 587 00:31:04,483 --> 00:31:06,312 You couldn't deny that to anyone could you? 588 00:31:07,451 --> 00:31:09,384 When you say there aren't any jobs anymore 589 00:31:09,384 --> 00:31:13,147 It's not a matter of there aren't any jobs. 590 00:31:13,147 --> 00:31:15,183 There isn't any pay. 591 00:31:15,183 --> 00:31:17,876 And the reason there isn't any pay is because 592 00:31:17,876 --> 00:31:22,881 the greed of the upper echelons, the elite. 593 00:31:24,089 --> 00:31:25,884 The elite want to make more and more 594 00:31:25,884 --> 00:31:29,370 and more and more money and the only way, 595 00:31:29,370 --> 00:31:33,512 normally nine times out of 10 if you go back in history 596 00:31:33,512 --> 00:31:38,517 and study this you'll find that in nine cases out of 10 597 00:31:39,725 --> 00:31:41,761 the only way this is ever solved is 598 00:31:41,761 --> 00:31:43,660 by a catastrophic world war. 599 00:31:45,110 --> 00:31:48,630 I feel like there is still a lot of hope in the world 600 00:31:48,630 --> 00:31:53,601 because everyday people are able to connect with each other 601 00:31:54,740 --> 00:31:57,053 in profound meaningful ways that before 602 00:31:57,053 --> 00:32:01,057 we're only the preserve of the elite and major corporations. 603 00:32:01,057 --> 00:32:04,543 Like now we can all network. 604 00:32:04,543 --> 00:32:08,547 And myself as an artist, as a poet 605 00:32:08,547 --> 00:32:10,721 I can find people all over the world 606 00:32:10,721 --> 00:32:12,758 and I can connect with them and I can have 607 00:32:12,758 --> 00:32:16,727 places to work and perform and there is a wonderful freedom 608 00:32:16,727 --> 00:32:20,662 that I have that my ancestors never had. 609 00:32:20,662 --> 00:32:24,252 And I feel incredibly lucky to be alive now 610 00:32:24,252 --> 00:32:29,257 as a lesbian female Northern Irish person from a rural area. 611 00:32:30,465 --> 00:32:33,192 Before there would be no possibility 612 00:32:33,192 --> 00:32:38,197 of being able to exercise freedom within any of those roles. 613 00:32:39,647 --> 00:32:42,339 So I actually feel really lucky to be alive right now 614 00:32:42,339 --> 00:32:45,273 as opposed to any other any other time. 615 00:32:45,273 --> 00:32:47,689 I guess maybe if you were like 616 00:32:47,689 --> 00:32:51,486 a white heterosexual English man 617 00:32:51,486 --> 00:32:53,972 this is maybe like a scary time to be alive 618 00:32:53,972 --> 00:32:58,148 because other people are doing things 619 00:32:58,148 --> 00:33:00,668 and that might be threatening for them. 620 00:33:00,668 --> 00:33:04,637 But for me like it's great to be live now. 621 00:33:04,637 --> 00:33:07,261 And I feel like all this fear mongering 622 00:33:07,261 --> 00:33:10,643 is just a way to try and encourage people 623 00:33:10,643 --> 00:33:12,611 to buy more stuff that they don't need. 624 00:33:14,164 --> 00:33:14,993 Are we clear? 625 00:33:16,063 --> 00:33:16,925 We're clear? 626 00:33:18,237 --> 00:33:22,586 Donald Trump is the President of the United States. 627 00:33:22,586 --> 00:33:27,591 Donald Trump is the President of the United States. 628 00:33:28,937 --> 00:33:32,527 Donald Trump is the President of the United States. 629 00:33:35,944 --> 00:33:38,533 The reason I think it seems that it is white 630 00:33:38,533 --> 00:33:40,984 straight possibly also working class men 631 00:33:40,984 --> 00:33:43,642 who are critical of identity politics 632 00:33:44,677 --> 00:33:46,921 or political correctness is because 633 00:33:46,921 --> 00:33:50,131 they are the one identity group that is not 634 00:33:50,131 --> 00:33:55,033 held to be necessary of any assistance. 635 00:33:55,033 --> 00:33:58,691 They're not viewed as disadvantaged and in fact 636 00:33:58,691 --> 00:34:01,073 they're quite commonly deemed to be the oppressor. 637 00:34:01,073 --> 00:34:03,938 And I think if you are with relation to Brexit 638 00:34:05,077 --> 00:34:06,389 if you look at what's happened in America 639 00:34:06,389 --> 00:34:08,701 I think this plays a massive part 640 00:34:08,701 --> 00:34:10,496 in explaining what's going on. 641 00:34:10,496 --> 00:34:13,292 White working class male people 642 00:34:13,292 --> 00:34:15,570 have started playing the identity politics game. 643 00:34:15,570 --> 00:34:18,642 They've realized that although they may have 644 00:34:18,642 --> 00:34:21,680 very different agendas as a group they can, 645 00:34:22,853 --> 00:34:26,305 they can they must work together to 646 00:34:27,444 --> 00:34:29,757 form a coherent identity because this is how 647 00:34:29,757 --> 00:34:31,655 the other side is playing the game. 648 00:34:37,558 --> 00:34:42,045 The world's changed so much since my youth even. 649 00:34:43,184 --> 00:34:44,772 People used to be proud to be British. 650 00:34:44,772 --> 00:34:47,050 They fought world wars to be British. 651 00:34:48,465 --> 00:34:52,952 We had an empire that more or less ruled the world. 652 00:34:53,953 --> 00:34:56,094 Now there's no empire. 653 00:34:56,094 --> 00:34:58,924 There's no jobs. 654 00:34:58,924 --> 00:35:00,581 We're no longer a strong nation. 655 00:35:01,547 --> 00:35:05,172 So I can't say in the future 656 00:35:06,518 --> 00:35:08,658 what the future holds for the country. 657 00:35:10,038 --> 00:35:12,420 What unites people in Britain my experience is that 658 00:35:12,420 --> 00:35:14,181 everybody wants Britain to be back 659 00:35:14,181 --> 00:35:17,115 to being mighty to being great again. 660 00:35:17,115 --> 00:35:19,979 And I think we've had like the last 10, 11 years 661 00:35:19,979 --> 00:35:22,016 we've just kind of come out of a recession. 662 00:35:22,016 --> 00:35:23,190 It's been really hard. 663 00:35:23,190 --> 00:35:25,330 Granted a lot of people have been hit hard. 664 00:35:25,330 --> 00:35:26,848 In fact I don't really think other than 665 00:35:26,848 --> 00:35:29,610 the ultimate uber rich I don't think there's anybody 666 00:35:29,610 --> 00:35:32,647 that hasn't sort of had a knock in the last 10 years. 667 00:35:32,647 --> 00:35:35,340 And I think that's great that we're all united 668 00:35:35,340 --> 00:35:38,998 and want in the the nation to be awesome again. 669 00:35:38,998 --> 00:35:41,898 And I think what divides people is how 670 00:35:41,898 --> 00:35:43,796 we're going to be awesome again. 671 00:35:43,796 --> 00:35:46,213 There was a little bit inside me that thought 672 00:35:46,213 --> 00:35:50,320 what if I'm wrong but my heart told me we've got to get out. 673 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,323 We can manage we're not a stupid nation. 674 00:35:53,323 --> 00:35:57,051 We're a brave race of people and we can 675 00:35:57,051 --> 00:35:59,398 think for ourselves and by God we will. 676 00:36:01,435 --> 00:36:03,782 I mean Britain was the biggest country in the world. 677 00:36:03,782 --> 00:36:05,542 They dominated the world. 678 00:36:05,542 --> 00:36:10,168 Yeah I guess it's coming back to haunt us now 679 00:36:10,168 --> 00:36:13,032 because obviously we probably raped and pillaged 680 00:36:13,032 --> 00:36:15,207 most countries all over the world 681 00:36:15,207 --> 00:36:17,416 and now they want a bit, a piece of us back. 682 00:36:18,797 --> 00:36:20,074 But that's not the point. 683 00:36:21,524 --> 00:36:25,459 The point is is that we're still this little country 684 00:36:25,459 --> 00:36:27,633 in the middle of the whatever the Atlantic Ocean 685 00:36:27,633 --> 00:36:32,638 and we deserve to be this great nation 686 00:36:33,743 --> 00:36:34,502 that why we're called Great Britain 687 00:36:35,641 --> 00:36:36,884 because we are this great nation. 688 00:36:36,884 --> 00:36:39,956 And we don't want to give it up so easily. 689 00:36:41,785 --> 00:36:44,478 Whoever had the biggest army 690 00:36:44,478 --> 00:36:46,376 that's who decided who owned the land. 691 00:36:46,376 --> 00:36:48,896 Invaders were a country of conquerors. 692 00:36:50,069 --> 00:36:52,140 I think we've been invaded I don't know 693 00:36:52,140 --> 00:36:56,006 how many times but were a country of conquerors. 694 00:36:56,006 --> 00:36:58,250 It was might who decided who owns this land. 695 00:36:59,838 --> 00:37:03,082 I suspect hundreds and hundreds of years ago when 696 00:37:03,082 --> 00:37:06,293 the Percy family took over the parish 697 00:37:06,293 --> 00:37:10,469 around here which is a fairly big parish they stole it. 698 00:37:11,919 --> 00:37:14,370 They murdered and thieved and stole it simple as that. 699 00:37:15,785 --> 00:37:19,858 I'm not too sure that it'll happen again but it may. 700 00:37:21,066 --> 00:37:24,449 It may be a peasant uprising. [laughing] 701 00:37:28,211 --> 00:37:29,937 But what I'd like to say about what Gary said before 702 00:37:29,937 --> 00:37:31,732 about when we used to rule the world 703 00:37:31,732 --> 00:37:34,666 what people like me and Gary should remember is 704 00:37:34,666 --> 00:37:37,116 in them days the working class 705 00:37:37,116 --> 00:37:38,911 didn't get a slice of that either. 706 00:37:40,223 --> 00:37:43,502 We were still treated as badly as 707 00:37:43,502 --> 00:37:45,987 we will be if we rule the world again. 708 00:37:49,059 --> 00:37:51,786 Me I think class is relevant. 709 00:37:52,925 --> 00:37:55,065 I don't think we can all be the same. 710 00:37:55,065 --> 00:37:57,723 Or we'd finish up like like China for instance. 711 00:38:00,312 --> 00:38:04,385 Communism, all one level, everybody the same 712 00:38:04,385 --> 00:38:07,457 and socialism and I don't think that would work. 713 00:38:11,427 --> 00:38:14,188 You need someone with brains I should think at the top. 714 00:38:16,328 --> 00:38:18,537 The gap between the rich and the poor now 715 00:38:19,745 --> 00:38:21,885 is the greatest that's ever been in history. 716 00:38:21,885 --> 00:38:26,096 Now you don't need to do anything to make money. 717 00:38:26,096 --> 00:38:29,583 If you inherit money you will actually make more money 718 00:38:29,583 --> 00:38:33,207 by doing nothing then you will by working. 719 00:38:33,207 --> 00:38:35,968 I think the long term future of Northern Ireland 720 00:38:35,968 --> 00:38:37,625 lies with the Republic as opposed to 721 00:38:37,625 --> 00:38:39,109 a part of the United Kingdom. 722 00:38:40,214 --> 00:38:42,354 That's obviously gonna be a very 723 00:38:42,354 --> 00:38:46,634 another sort of minefield whenever that happens but 724 00:38:47,842 --> 00:38:50,155 I think no, I think Britain, 725 00:38:50,155 --> 00:38:53,192 I've never thought Britain was a great country. 726 00:38:54,608 --> 00:38:56,955 I think it's been throughout its history been an aggressor. 727 00:38:58,094 --> 00:39:00,855 I think now it's 728 00:39:00,855 --> 00:39:03,582 smaller and weaker than it ever has been. 729 00:39:03,582 --> 00:39:05,170 And I look forward to Scotland leaving them. 730 00:39:05,170 --> 00:39:07,172 I look forward to Northern Ireland leaving it. 731 00:39:07,172 --> 00:39:11,141 And once that does happen my attitude 732 00:39:11,141 --> 00:39:12,660 would be to hell with Britain. 733 00:39:14,248 --> 00:39:15,594 You're proud, proud to be British. 734 00:39:17,078 --> 00:39:19,287 Everyone looks at the British 735 00:39:19,287 --> 00:39:21,151 and how would they solve this problem? 736 00:39:21,151 --> 00:39:25,915 It's about passion we've got a lot 737 00:39:25,915 --> 00:39:29,056 of passion in the UK and Britain. 738 00:39:29,056 --> 00:39:32,715 And everything we do we do full hearted. 739 00:39:34,510 --> 00:39:37,478 I'm a Patriot because I grew up 740 00:39:37,478 --> 00:39:39,446 loving and respecting my country. 741 00:39:41,275 --> 00:39:42,587 I love the Queen. 742 00:39:42,587 --> 00:39:45,762 I love our culture. 743 00:39:45,762 --> 00:39:49,041 I love our location. 744 00:39:51,699 --> 00:39:53,494 And it's the place where I've lived since I was born. 745 00:39:59,500 --> 00:40:01,399 I've always loved that. 746 00:40:05,989 --> 00:40:10,649 I don't believe the country's influenced me in my life 747 00:40:13,411 --> 00:40:17,760 possibly just from me own, took me own life 748 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:21,073 in me own hands and made me own destiny. 749 00:40:23,421 --> 00:40:28,287 And problems are always things like national identity 750 00:40:31,083 --> 00:40:32,740 Those are the problems. 751 00:40:32,740 --> 00:40:35,053 Governments are the problems because they're 752 00:40:35,053 --> 00:40:36,434 the only ones who are pushing this concept 753 00:40:36,434 --> 00:40:38,850 of a national identity. 754 00:40:40,403 --> 00:40:42,716 I mean you're working class might. 755 00:40:43,924 --> 00:40:45,719 People working might say yeah this is what 756 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,100 it means to be British, this is what it means to be British. 757 00:40:48,100 --> 00:40:50,206 It's just like you're just trying to grab on 758 00:40:50,206 --> 00:40:53,174 to a collective identity because you're fucking alone. 759 00:40:54,797 --> 00:40:57,903 Because you're busy all the time you've got nothing. 760 00:40:57,903 --> 00:41:01,528 There's no hope it's just constant revolving 761 00:41:01,528 --> 00:41:05,117 work, work, work, family blah blah blah. 762 00:41:06,187 --> 00:41:08,293 Kind of irresponsible to be honest. 763 00:41:11,227 --> 00:41:14,610 In Britain we feel like we're better 764 00:41:14,610 --> 00:41:16,646 I suppose that's what it's always been. 765 00:41:17,820 --> 00:41:19,649 I consider myself to be European. 766 00:41:19,649 --> 00:41:23,342 I consider myself to be part of the continent of Europe. 767 00:41:24,620 --> 00:41:26,242 Not many people share this view. 768 00:41:27,795 --> 00:41:32,800 I don't know why people are proud to be British. 769 00:41:34,112 --> 00:41:35,700 You cannot be proud of something that you haven't done. 770 00:41:39,566 --> 00:41:41,913 I personally struggle with ideas of national identity. 771 00:41:41,913 --> 00:41:46,055 I'm from Wales but I wouldn't necessarily say that I'm Welsh 772 00:41:46,055 --> 00:41:48,298 because when you say either English, Welsh, 773 00:41:48,298 --> 00:41:51,198 Scottish, Irish, whatever there's 774 00:41:51,198 --> 00:41:54,235 a lot of imagery that's codified into that. 775 00:41:54,235 --> 00:41:56,306 As I like to say in a bit of a jokey fashion 776 00:41:56,306 --> 00:41:59,896 I don't care about rugby so clearly I'm not all that Welsh. 777 00:41:59,896 --> 00:42:04,522 I'm a like many Welsh Welshman a rugby fan 778 00:42:04,522 --> 00:42:09,527 and the song that symbolizes I think my favorite rugby team 779 00:42:10,873 --> 00:42:12,944 the team which is known throughout the world as having 780 00:42:14,324 --> 00:42:16,326 beaten the All Blacks namely The Llanelli Scarlets. 781 00:42:16,326 --> 00:42:19,571 And they're known as The Boys of Sospan. 782 00:42:20,779 --> 00:42:22,919 And there is a song which is known as 783 00:42:22,919 --> 00:42:25,439 [speaking in foreign language] and it goes like this. 784 00:42:25,439 --> 00:42:29,270 [singing in foreign language] 785 00:42:55,089 --> 00:42:56,781 England's my home country. 786 00:42:59,853 --> 00:43:04,754 If you go to any other foreign country you'll see 787 00:43:05,617 --> 00:43:07,895 their flags flying all the time. 788 00:43:07,895 --> 00:43:11,416 Now in England you're a racist if you fly you're own flag. 789 00:43:13,211 --> 00:43:15,454 I think English is, and I'm not, 790 00:43:17,387 --> 00:43:18,596 English is that color. 791 00:43:18,596 --> 00:43:20,390 British can be any color you want. 792 00:43:20,390 --> 00:43:21,322 You cannot say that. 793 00:43:22,945 --> 00:43:26,362 I have nothing to do with that last statement. 794 00:43:29,745 --> 00:43:33,507 To feel unwelcome here after giving so much 795 00:43:34,819 --> 00:43:36,544 to being here, being part of it 796 00:43:36,544 --> 00:43:40,203 feeling it's a part of me, because that's the main 797 00:43:40,203 --> 00:43:42,930 because I feel I belong I feel like I'm part of it. 798 00:43:42,930 --> 00:43:45,001 Then all of a sudden to have that taken 799 00:43:45,001 --> 00:43:48,556 away from you is a feeling of not belonging 800 00:43:48,556 --> 00:43:51,974 not having a place of being alienated. 801 00:43:51,974 --> 00:43:55,011 It's marginalizing a huge amount of people 802 00:43:55,011 --> 00:43:56,461 that are all of a sudden saying that 803 00:43:56,461 --> 00:43:58,187 you aren't actually supposed to be here. 804 00:43:58,187 --> 00:43:59,567 Where are we supposed to be? 805 00:44:00,741 --> 00:44:02,950 Simply because of our ancestry that 806 00:44:02,950 --> 00:44:04,158 all of a sudden we don't belong. 807 00:44:04,158 --> 00:44:06,229 Simply because of the color of our skin 808 00:44:06,229 --> 00:44:09,647 that all of a sudden we don't belong it doesn't make sense. 809 00:44:09,647 --> 00:44:13,685 Women, specifically women, specifically Muslim women 810 00:44:13,685 --> 00:44:17,033 who wear the hijab who wear the niqab who wear the burkas 811 00:44:17,033 --> 00:44:22,038 they've been targeted as vulnerable people. 812 00:44:22,901 --> 00:44:25,663 And as a Muslim woman sometimes 813 00:44:25,663 --> 00:44:29,045 I wear hijab sometimes I don't and for my children 814 00:44:29,045 --> 00:44:31,185 for my daughters I have two daughters. 815 00:44:31,185 --> 00:44:33,015 I feel desperately unsafe, 816 00:44:35,569 --> 00:44:36,674 desperately unhappy. 817 00:44:40,332 --> 00:44:41,679 I think we've always had a problem 818 00:44:41,679 --> 00:44:44,129 of racism in this society but I think 819 00:44:44,129 --> 00:44:46,580 because of the press and the way that politicians 820 00:44:46,580 --> 00:44:49,376 talked about issues of race and migration 821 00:44:49,376 --> 00:44:52,690 during the election campaign it began to legitimize 822 00:44:52,690 --> 00:44:56,210 public racism on a scale that we haven't seen for a while. 823 00:44:56,210 --> 00:44:59,144 So you can't deny it because we've seen a massive 824 00:44:59,144 --> 00:45:01,940 increase in hate crimes since the election results. 825 00:45:01,940 --> 00:45:03,390 So it's obviously done something. 826 00:45:03,390 --> 00:45:05,772 I don't think it's that we suddenly just 827 00:45:05,772 --> 00:45:08,291 become more racist think it's always been there 828 00:45:08,291 --> 00:45:10,259 but people now have a legitimate reason 829 00:45:10,259 --> 00:45:13,262 to behave and talk the way that they probably 830 00:45:13,262 --> 00:45:15,229 previously felt was unacceptable. 831 00:45:16,368 --> 00:45:18,957 Until perhaps even five years ago 832 00:45:18,957 --> 00:45:21,477 it was very easy to see very distinct 833 00:45:21,477 --> 00:45:23,962 and concrete comparisons between the industrial 834 00:45:23,962 --> 00:45:27,586 Northern England and the Central Belt of Scotland. 835 00:45:27,586 --> 00:45:29,623 They had very similar cultures 836 00:45:29,623 --> 00:45:33,351 and cultures suffering from the decline of industrialization 837 00:45:33,351 --> 00:45:37,424 cultures borderline decimated by conservative policy 838 00:45:37,424 --> 00:45:42,049 that ruined job prospects and income for so many people. 839 00:45:42,049 --> 00:45:45,052 However there is now in 2016 one 840 00:45:45,052 --> 00:45:47,606 crucial difference between those two areas. 841 00:45:47,606 --> 00:45:50,782 In 2014 in Scotland citizens went through 842 00:45:50,782 --> 00:45:54,441 a huge constitutional debate for the independence referendum 843 00:45:54,441 --> 00:45:58,100 and during that time we were pushed 844 00:45:58,100 --> 00:46:00,585 and we found ourselves hosting 845 00:46:00,585 --> 00:46:03,277 the most incredible discussions about politics. 846 00:46:03,277 --> 00:46:05,763 So instead of saying what party you voted for 847 00:46:05,763 --> 00:46:08,075 or what politician will you support this time? 848 00:46:08,075 --> 00:46:11,423 We were asking questions like what currency should we have? 849 00:46:11,423 --> 00:46:13,494 What rules makes a society just? 850 00:46:13,494 --> 00:46:15,634 We were starting from the bottom up 851 00:46:15,634 --> 00:46:17,913 and as a result I think Scotland 852 00:46:17,913 --> 00:46:20,225 although the vote didn't turn out the way 853 00:46:20,225 --> 00:46:25,230 I'd hoped it would and had a political makeover if you like 854 00:46:26,611 --> 00:46:30,063 whereby citizens became engaged on an unprecedented level 855 00:46:30,063 --> 00:46:33,618 and I would argue we've got one of the most sophisticated 856 00:46:33,618 --> 00:46:36,966 and clued in electorate that's going at the moment. 857 00:46:39,106 --> 00:46:43,214 I live in a mining, or should I say 858 00:46:43,214 --> 00:46:47,735 an ex-mining town in County Durham, place called Horden. 859 00:46:48,909 --> 00:46:50,669 Used to be the biggest, 860 00:46:50,669 --> 00:46:53,017 used to have the biggest coal mine in Europe. 861 00:46:57,815 --> 00:47:00,818 The industries of Elham it was base around 862 00:47:00,818 --> 00:47:05,823 the steelworks so the area where we are now 863 00:47:06,962 --> 00:47:09,309 would have once been the steelworks. 864 00:47:09,309 --> 00:47:13,554 It closed down I think 60's or 70's maybe 865 00:47:13,554 --> 00:47:15,694 and now this is an industrial estate 866 00:47:15,694 --> 00:47:18,111 and there's lots of different industries here now. 867 00:47:18,111 --> 00:47:20,734 Obviously you can see there's containers. 868 00:47:20,734 --> 00:47:23,841 The building Port of Salford just down the road so 869 00:47:23,841 --> 00:47:25,325 that's going to bring a lot of 870 00:47:25,325 --> 00:47:28,466 new industry and new work here 871 00:47:28,466 --> 00:47:31,124 with shipping containers that sort of thing. 872 00:47:32,711 --> 00:47:35,162 In the past there was margarine works, 873 00:47:35,162 --> 00:47:39,132 dye works, salt works, match works 874 00:47:39,132 --> 00:47:42,169 but most of that's gone now and it's kind of like 875 00:47:42,169 --> 00:47:45,034 more like head offices and things like that. 876 00:47:45,034 --> 00:47:47,726 The Tory government actually closed 877 00:47:47,726 --> 00:47:50,971 the coal mines, they close to shipyards. 878 00:47:50,971 --> 00:47:53,663 They've just gotten rid of the steel industry. 879 00:47:53,663 --> 00:47:56,321 So basically there's no heavy industries. 880 00:47:56,321 --> 00:47:58,392 Britain was always run on heavy industries 881 00:47:58,392 --> 00:48:00,774 and that's why it was so self sufficient. 882 00:48:00,774 --> 00:48:03,328 Other countries used to rely on us. 883 00:48:03,328 --> 00:48:05,330 Now we rely on other countries. 884 00:48:06,504 --> 00:48:08,299 You heard a lot talk about globalization 885 00:48:08,299 --> 00:48:11,198 and it's been going on for many many years 886 00:48:11,198 --> 00:48:13,821 that the world's got closer and closer. 887 00:48:13,821 --> 00:48:15,685 And in the beginning it was great. 888 00:48:15,685 --> 00:48:18,447 We all had cheap products and we all thought 889 00:48:18,447 --> 00:48:21,415 it is wonderful trainers have never been so cheap, 890 00:48:21,415 --> 00:48:22,934 and clothes have never been so cheap. 891 00:48:22,934 --> 00:48:25,695 It's brought inflation down, it's been a good thing. 892 00:48:25,695 --> 00:48:29,113 Globalization has been a good thing and well I think 893 00:48:29,113 --> 00:48:32,840 we've got to the point where now it's starting affect, 894 00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:37,707 it's starting to affect people on the ground 895 00:48:37,707 --> 00:48:39,951 within the countries more particularly 896 00:48:39,951 --> 00:48:41,608 probably the wealthier countries. 897 00:48:41,608 --> 00:48:44,576 The standard of living is dropping and I think we're seeing, 898 00:48:44,576 --> 00:48:47,441 I think we need to get to the root 899 00:48:47,441 --> 00:48:50,168 of what problems we're seeing and 900 00:48:50,168 --> 00:48:52,067 how we're going to deal with it. 901 00:48:54,207 --> 00:48:56,140 I'd hate to be leaving school now. 902 00:48:58,901 --> 00:49:00,213 'Cause you can't get a job. 903 00:49:01,593 --> 00:49:06,564 When we left school Gary's five six years younger than me. 904 00:49:07,427 --> 00:49:09,153 We could just walk into jobs. 905 00:49:09,153 --> 00:49:13,260 Left school, I left school with no qualifications at fifteen 906 00:49:13,260 --> 00:49:15,953 and straight into an engineering apprenticeship. 907 00:49:15,953 --> 00:49:17,955 You can't do that now. 908 00:49:17,955 --> 00:49:20,405 You've got to stay in school till you're 18 909 00:49:20,405 --> 00:49:23,443 then you go to university get a silly degree. 910 00:49:23,443 --> 00:49:24,685 Don't get me wrong. 911 00:49:24,685 --> 00:49:26,411 I'm not saying everyone who goes to university 912 00:49:26,411 --> 00:49:30,968 gets a silly degree but there are silly degrees out there. 913 00:49:30,968 --> 00:49:33,522 And then people's waste so much of their lives 914 00:49:33,522 --> 00:49:34,799 and then they can't get a job. 915 00:49:34,799 --> 00:49:36,387 No that's right. 916 00:49:36,387 --> 00:49:38,458 Not everybody leaves university these days and gets a job 917 00:49:38,458 --> 00:49:43,049 and not everybody just falls into luck 918 00:49:43,049 --> 00:49:44,982 just that easily anymore especially for me. 919 00:49:44,982 --> 00:49:47,294 I think it's been a bit of a wake up. 920 00:49:47,294 --> 00:49:49,055 I'm the youngest of four and it's been a wake up call 921 00:49:49,055 --> 00:49:52,196 with me that it's not just been that easy for me 922 00:49:52,196 --> 00:49:54,232 in the economy that I came out of university 923 00:49:54,232 --> 00:49:56,372 just to make a success of myself. 924 00:49:56,372 --> 00:49:59,134 There's not that many opportunities 925 00:49:59,134 --> 00:50:02,620 and to be quite honest I would have been better off 926 00:50:02,620 --> 00:50:05,519 not having gone to university and of studying a vocation. 927 00:50:05,519 --> 00:50:07,797 In my opinion I would have got a lot further. 928 00:50:09,316 --> 00:50:13,976 The younger generation today don't seem to be as 929 00:50:15,529 --> 00:50:19,085 into owning a home as maybe my parents generation where. 930 00:50:19,085 --> 00:50:21,225 It was the norm it's what you did. 931 00:50:21,225 --> 00:50:24,849 You bought a house you got married you had a kid. 932 00:50:24,849 --> 00:50:27,093 I think the younger generation are kind of 933 00:50:27,093 --> 00:50:29,543 having to accept that they're gonna have to rent. 934 00:50:31,028 --> 00:50:33,961 People live with the parents still a lot later these days 935 00:50:35,101 --> 00:50:38,035 which is a bit of a shame really that 936 00:50:38,035 --> 00:50:39,553 they can't get out on their own 937 00:50:39,553 --> 00:50:43,281 because rent is even ridiculously high. 938 00:50:43,281 --> 00:50:44,455 People struggle to rent. 939 00:50:45,663 --> 00:50:47,768 And again like there's no social housing so 940 00:50:51,013 --> 00:50:54,258 if you can't afford to rent and you can't afford to buy 941 00:50:55,707 --> 00:50:58,055 and there's no council houses I mean where do you live? 942 00:51:00,471 --> 00:51:02,576 There's been a lot of cuts and we've seen it in our jobs. 943 00:51:02,576 --> 00:51:05,027 There's people losing their jobs 944 00:51:05,027 --> 00:51:07,029 and council jobs and stuff like that but 945 00:51:09,169 --> 00:51:11,482 people's gotta lose their jobs for the country 946 00:51:11,482 --> 00:51:13,622 to go forward because they've got to save money 947 00:51:13,622 --> 00:51:17,212 and to be honest that's life. 948 00:51:17,212 --> 00:51:19,041 If you lose your job you've got to go find another one. 949 00:51:19,041 --> 00:51:20,698 There's work out there. 950 00:51:20,698 --> 00:51:22,803 We go back to the days when they was saying 951 00:51:22,803 --> 00:51:24,391 there's no work there's no work but there's always been work 952 00:51:24,391 --> 00:51:26,876 if you want to go find a job there's a job there. 953 00:51:29,016 --> 00:51:30,570 Jobs are freedom. 954 00:51:30,570 --> 00:51:33,400 Jobs are also self esteem. 955 00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:35,747 One of the big problems in this area 956 00:51:35,747 --> 00:51:39,924 and with every area of unemployment is people who are 957 00:51:41,374 --> 00:51:43,134 emotionally downtrodden. 958 00:51:45,688 --> 00:51:48,553 When you don't have a job you don't have purpose. 959 00:51:48,553 --> 00:51:51,211 Having purpose I consider is just 960 00:51:51,211 --> 00:51:53,006 as important as having an income. 961 00:51:54,594 --> 00:51:58,736 I visited a hen, an egg operation in Scotland last year. 962 00:52:00,220 --> 00:52:02,119 And it produces a million and a quarter eggs a day. 963 00:52:03,568 --> 00:52:07,986 And it was a huge packing station manned by robots. 964 00:52:07,986 --> 00:52:10,817 Not many people and very efficient. 965 00:52:13,026 --> 00:52:18,031 So it'll carry on and leave us old codgers behind. 966 00:52:21,414 --> 00:52:24,831 As a taxi driver in regards to to growth of technology 967 00:52:27,868 --> 00:52:30,181 I'm not worried about a self driving car 968 00:52:30,181 --> 00:52:32,666 otherwise known as a pilotless car. 969 00:52:32,666 --> 00:52:35,669 People climb into a taxi be it 970 00:52:35,669 --> 00:52:37,844 a hackney carriage or a private higher car 971 00:52:40,398 --> 00:52:43,712 to drive home with someone that knows the roads 972 00:52:43,712 --> 00:52:46,024 someone that's friendly, talkative. 973 00:52:47,025 --> 00:52:48,958 We take home after a night out 974 00:52:48,958 --> 00:52:50,960 vulnerable young ladies who are drunk. 975 00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,998 We ensure they get through the door that they're safe. 976 00:52:56,207 --> 00:52:58,520 An automated car can't do that. 977 00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:00,418 It's a machine it has no emotion 978 00:53:00,418 --> 00:53:04,284 it doesn't think that extra mile that a human can think. 979 00:53:04,284 --> 00:53:06,838 While an automated car is good for delivering parcels 980 00:53:06,838 --> 00:53:09,600 using an arm drop it outside the door 981 00:53:10,773 --> 00:53:12,292 it fails at being able to knock on the door 982 00:53:12,292 --> 00:53:14,191 to let you know the parcel's there. 983 00:53:16,676 --> 00:53:18,436 I don't believe and their doom mongering 984 00:53:18,436 --> 00:53:20,473 that we're going to be replaced by robots 985 00:53:20,473 --> 00:53:23,338 and no one's gonna have a job anymore. 986 00:53:23,338 --> 00:53:26,237 But maybe this technology can mean that we can move towards 987 00:53:26,237 --> 00:53:29,033 a society where we only work three or four days a week. 988 00:53:29,033 --> 00:53:31,104 And people have more social time. 989 00:53:31,104 --> 00:53:33,140 But that means that wages are going to have to go up 990 00:53:33,140 --> 00:53:35,729 so people can afford to live on working four days a week. 991 00:53:35,729 --> 00:53:37,317 And you see some of those experiments 992 00:53:37,317 --> 00:53:39,216 happening across Europe you see it in 993 00:53:39,216 --> 00:53:40,941 some of the Scandinavian countries 994 00:53:40,941 --> 00:53:43,081 people having a citizen's wage. 995 00:53:44,876 --> 00:53:46,223 So I'm not scared of technology. 996 00:53:46,223 --> 00:53:48,570 I think there's some real benefits to be had 997 00:53:48,570 --> 00:53:50,917 in the uses and development of technology 998 00:53:50,917 --> 00:53:54,023 so long as it's utilized to support people 999 00:53:54,023 --> 00:53:55,542 rather than to just make money. 1000 00:53:56,923 --> 00:54:00,996 I think it's so sad that we're getting rid 1001 00:54:00,996 --> 00:54:05,621 of people to give those jobs to robots. 1002 00:54:05,621 --> 00:54:08,141 'Cause in the 50's we got people over from 1003 00:54:08,141 --> 00:54:11,627 the West Indies to do the jobs that we couldn't. 1004 00:54:11,627 --> 00:54:15,252 We couldn't fill the jobs in the NHS 1005 00:54:15,252 --> 00:54:18,841 without these people being brought over 1006 00:54:18,841 --> 00:54:23,846 so to now render their children unemployed. 1007 00:54:25,296 --> 00:54:28,782 I mean what's the future if we don't give young people jobs? 1008 00:54:28,782 --> 00:54:30,715 They need to be working otherwise they're 1009 00:54:30,715 --> 00:54:33,891 just gonna be rampaging the streets 1010 00:54:33,891 --> 00:54:36,963 as some of them are doing at the moment. 1011 00:54:37,826 --> 00:54:39,137 The robots will do everything. 1012 00:54:39,137 --> 00:54:41,761 We'll have robots that can make the robots. 1013 00:54:41,761 --> 00:54:43,901 So then what happens? 1014 00:54:43,901 --> 00:54:45,799 People might as well be extinct. 1015 00:54:47,214 --> 00:54:49,700 The whole world might as well just lie down and die. 1016 00:54:50,977 --> 00:54:53,082 Give North Korea the the power and just 1017 00:54:53,082 --> 00:54:55,844 let them press the button and blow the bloody world up. 1018 00:54:57,846 --> 00:55:00,020 I think the right people are right to think 1019 00:55:00,020 --> 00:55:01,850 that we're heading towards the end. 1020 00:55:01,850 --> 00:55:04,577 I think it could be eminently close. 1021 00:55:04,577 --> 00:55:09,444 It could be eminently within the next couple of decades. 1022 00:55:09,444 --> 00:55:11,135 But I could give you strong evidence 1023 00:55:11,135 --> 00:55:15,450 that's biblical evidence that it could be 300 years away. 1024 00:55:15,450 --> 00:55:18,936 But it's not centuries and centuries away. 1025 00:55:20,109 --> 00:55:24,321 There is very good reason for believing 1026 00:55:24,321 --> 00:55:26,978 that we're getting to that critical mass time. 1027 00:55:28,497 --> 00:55:29,947 Call it a biblical prophecy. 1028 00:55:29,947 --> 00:55:32,329 I don't want us to be part of the 10 nations 1029 00:55:32,329 --> 00:55:35,124 that are going to rise out of federal Europe. 1030 00:55:35,124 --> 00:55:37,610 By leaving we'll avoid that. 1031 00:55:39,059 --> 00:55:43,650 Whether you believe biblical prophecy or not check it out. 1032 00:55:43,650 --> 00:55:45,928 It's been 100% accurate so far. 1033 00:55:47,240 --> 00:55:48,103 The future? 1034 00:55:49,276 --> 00:55:52,245 No reason to doubt that it won't come to pass. 1035 00:55:53,453 --> 00:55:56,629 But until these circumstances fall into place 1036 00:55:56,629 --> 00:55:57,837 nothing is gonna happen. 1037 00:55:59,528 --> 00:56:04,153 I don't think the country will ever 1038 00:56:05,327 --> 00:56:08,261 come back to its former glories because 1039 00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:12,783 especially in the area where I live because 1040 00:56:14,267 --> 00:56:17,374 there's not enough investment there's not enough facilities. 1041 00:56:22,344 --> 00:56:23,759 There's basically just nothing. 1042 00:56:26,728 --> 00:56:28,281 You've got one third of the country 1043 00:56:28,281 --> 00:56:31,388 people in the country live in the Southeast of the country. 1044 00:56:32,906 --> 00:56:34,391 And that's where everything, 1045 00:56:34,391 --> 00:56:36,462 all the work and everything is towards. 1046 00:56:36,462 --> 00:56:40,707 Brexit doesn't matter 'cause we've got nothing anyhow. 1047 00:56:50,096 --> 00:56:53,099 [monastic chanting] 1048 01:00:35,079 --> 01:00:37,530 When you've lost Democratic control 1049 01:00:37,530 --> 01:00:40,947 you can blame it on the experts. 1050 01:00:40,947 --> 01:00:44,951 But it's not the experts who created the policies that's 1051 01:00:44,951 --> 01:00:47,644 basically the business world and the corporate sector. 1052 01:00:51,406 --> 01:00:55,962 What's happening is opposition to policies. 1053 01:00:55,962 --> 01:01:00,864 The policies are imposed by self appointed experts. 1054 01:01:02,244 --> 01:01:05,454 So opposition to the policies may take the form 1055 01:01:05,454 --> 01:01:09,907 of opposition to expertise but that's not what it is. 1056 01:01:09,907 --> 01:01:14,256 In a democratic society not everybody becomes an expert. 1057 01:01:23,990 --> 01:01:28,477 [Woman] One feature of our current condition 1058 01:01:29,651 --> 01:01:31,998 is that we have on the one hand managed 1059 01:01:31,998 --> 01:01:37,003 to generate truly extraordinary complexities, 1060 01:01:38,384 --> 01:01:41,111 complexities that demand multiple systems of knowledge. 1061 01:01:41,111 --> 01:01:46,116 In all of that also lie extraordinary capacities 1062 01:01:47,220 --> 01:01:50,983 to generate brutalities that are simple. 1063 01:01:54,918 --> 01:01:58,335 Neoliberalism is the ideal 1064 01:01:58,335 --> 01:02:02,649 hegemonic ideology of globalization. 1065 01:02:02,649 --> 01:02:05,100 It's basically saying we must liberalize 1066 01:02:05,100 --> 01:02:08,725 all markets, make them open markets. 1067 01:02:08,725 --> 01:02:10,761 We must commodify everything. 1068 01:02:10,761 --> 01:02:14,006 That means make them all subject to market forces 1069 01:02:14,006 --> 01:02:17,216 and market prices turning the commons 1070 01:02:17,216 --> 01:02:19,528 into part of the market society 1071 01:02:19,528 --> 01:02:24,533 and most importantly privatize everything. 1072 01:02:25,396 --> 01:02:26,708 So privatize the health service. 1073 01:02:26,708 --> 01:02:28,158 Privatize your education system. 1074 01:02:28,158 --> 01:02:31,920 Privatize the occupational life. 1075 01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:35,199 Privatize all public services. 1076 01:02:35,199 --> 01:02:39,169 And that agenda means they also are very hostile 1077 01:02:39,169 --> 01:02:43,311 to all institutions that stand against the market. 1078 01:02:43,311 --> 01:02:46,038 Trades Unions, collective bargaining, 1079 01:02:46,038 --> 01:02:48,834 NGO's, form of institutions, 1080 01:02:48,834 --> 01:02:53,114 the education system as an independent entity. 1081 01:02:53,114 --> 01:02:56,738 And they've been dismantling those and weakening those 1082 01:02:56,738 --> 01:02:58,775 systematically for the past 30 years. 1083 01:03:00,190 --> 01:03:03,089 A new liberalism as a system worked for some time 1084 01:03:03,089 --> 01:03:07,335 but it's now collapsed and since 2008 effectively 1085 01:03:07,335 --> 01:03:08,992 what we've seen is government's trying 1086 01:03:08,992 --> 01:03:12,512 reinstate neoliberalism through austerity. 1087 01:03:12,512 --> 01:03:14,204 But this has failed as well. 1088 01:03:15,343 --> 01:03:16,793 We haven't seen a return to economic growth. 1089 01:03:16,793 --> 01:03:19,105 We're continuing to see wages stagnate. 1090 01:03:19,105 --> 01:03:21,798 We're continuing to see income inequality rise. 1091 01:03:21,798 --> 01:03:24,214 And we're continuing to see people suffer. 1092 01:03:24,214 --> 01:03:26,561 I think Brexit if anything is 1093 01:03:26,561 --> 01:03:28,908 a reaction against neoliberalism. 1094 01:03:28,908 --> 01:03:32,291 Now we don't have anything to replace it yet. 1095 01:03:32,291 --> 01:03:37,123 And I think this is why today feels so chaotic at the moment 1096 01:03:37,123 --> 01:03:39,643 effectively we don't have a system that will yet 1097 01:03:39,643 --> 01:03:43,198 replace neoliberalism even as we start to see 1098 01:03:43,198 --> 01:03:46,581 attempts by the right through Donald Trump, Theresa May 1099 01:03:46,581 --> 01:03:51,517 to assert some sort of authoritarian post liberal order. 1100 01:03:51,517 --> 01:03:54,589 Whether or not this will be successful is yet to be seen. 1101 01:03:55,901 --> 01:04:00,008 What's wrong with neoliberal democracy is 1102 01:04:00,008 --> 01:04:03,046 first of all that it undermines democracy. 1103 01:04:03,046 --> 01:04:08,051 That's explicit when you introduce privatization, 1104 01:04:09,362 --> 01:04:13,608 marketization and so on that's taking decisions 1105 01:04:13,608 --> 01:04:16,611 away from people and placing them 1106 01:04:16,611 --> 01:04:19,821 in the hands of private power. 1107 01:04:19,821 --> 01:04:23,238 That in itself is anti democratic and it also 1108 01:04:23,238 --> 01:04:27,277 turns out to be harmful to much of the population. 1109 01:04:27,277 --> 01:04:30,521 Joseph Stiglitz a Noble Laureate in Economics 1110 01:04:30,521 --> 01:04:33,628 later Chief Economist for the World Bank 1111 01:04:33,628 --> 01:04:36,873 warned against what he called following 1112 01:04:36,873 --> 01:04:40,738 the religion that markets know best. 1113 01:04:40,738 --> 01:04:43,603 They may know best about the price of shoes 1114 01:04:43,603 --> 01:04:46,572 but there's a lot of things they don't know best about. 1115 01:04:46,572 --> 01:04:48,712 And that's been demonstrated 1116 01:04:48,712 --> 01:04:51,232 and people are suffering from it. 1117 01:04:51,232 --> 01:04:55,374 Bernie Sanders talked about a political revolution 1118 01:04:55,374 --> 01:04:57,445 but if you look at his policies 1119 01:04:57,445 --> 01:05:00,379 they wouldn't have surprised to Dwight Eisenhower. 1120 01:05:01,552 --> 01:05:05,039 Well these are signs of how far everything 1121 01:05:05,039 --> 01:05:08,525 is shifted to the right during the neoliberal period. 1122 01:05:10,527 --> 01:05:12,080 Let's be honest. 1123 01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:16,913 We have newspapers owned by ex-Soviet spies, 1124 01:05:16,913 --> 01:05:20,123 mainstream newspaper in Britain. 1125 01:05:20,123 --> 01:05:25,128 We have billionaire plutocrats dominating our media. 1126 01:05:27,199 --> 01:05:32,031 No government in Britain has won since 1974 1127 01:05:34,482 --> 01:05:39,452 without the active support of Rupert Murdoch, no government. 1128 01:05:40,971 --> 01:05:43,663 And Rupert Murdoch backed Brexit 1129 01:05:44,941 --> 01:05:47,564 and he got his Sun newspaper and Sky and others 1130 01:05:47,564 --> 01:05:52,569 to come out in favor of Brexit peddling many of the lies 1131 01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:55,641 that the Brexit campaigners were putting out. 1132 01:05:57,056 --> 01:05:58,575 And he won. 1133 01:05:58,575 --> 01:06:02,786 He was on the winning side as always in British politics. 1134 01:06:02,786 --> 01:06:04,650 And Rupert Murdoch was asked by 1135 01:06:04,650 --> 01:06:07,308 the press why he supported Brexit? 1136 01:06:08,688 --> 01:06:10,725 Very revealing answer. 1137 01:06:10,725 --> 01:06:12,761 He must be getting old. 1138 01:06:12,761 --> 01:06:14,142 His answer was 1139 01:06:15,799 --> 01:06:20,045 because when I go to Downing Street they do as I tell them. 1140 01:06:20,045 --> 01:06:22,771 When I go to Brussels no one takes any notice. 1141 01:06:25,602 --> 01:06:28,398 The shocking thing about this neoliberal moment 1142 01:06:28,398 --> 01:06:33,403 where we see racism on the rise and so openly expressed 1143 01:06:34,576 --> 01:06:36,475 is that I would have never expected to see 1144 01:06:37,959 --> 01:06:41,721 far right politicians given the platform that they have. 1145 01:06:41,721 --> 01:06:45,725 On television we see Nigel Farage for you UKIP 1146 01:06:45,725 --> 01:06:49,522 sitting there on the same platform as 1147 01:06:49,522 --> 01:06:52,836 the bona fide traditional political parties. 1148 01:06:52,836 --> 01:06:56,219 We see all across Europe the far right 1149 01:06:57,392 --> 01:07:00,119 and whether it's Wilders or Le Pen 1150 01:07:00,119 --> 01:07:04,779 having an open platform to say racist things 1151 01:07:04,779 --> 01:07:08,300 and then claim what I'm saying is the truth, 1152 01:07:08,300 --> 01:07:10,716 what I'm saying is I'm honest. 1153 01:07:10,716 --> 01:07:14,271 They're saying it isn't racist to be racist. 1154 01:07:14,271 --> 01:07:17,309 By having this huge scapegoating 1155 01:07:17,309 --> 01:07:20,622 when capitalism is in its point of crisis 1156 01:07:20,622 --> 01:07:24,695 this project now needs to find somebody 1157 01:07:24,695 --> 01:07:26,732 and we use the word scapegoating 1158 01:07:26,732 --> 01:07:31,185 and it might seem like a cliche but it is so evident 1159 01:07:31,185 --> 01:07:33,256 that you cannot believe it's actually 1160 01:07:33,256 --> 01:07:34,912 happening in front of your eyes. 1161 01:07:36,052 --> 01:07:38,468 [calm music] 1162 01:07:48,340 --> 01:07:51,826 What does a plastic bottle water have in common 1163 01:07:51,826 --> 01:07:56,072 with a migrant arriving at the shores of Europe? 1164 01:07:56,072 --> 01:08:01,007 Well the water bottle, that water comes from far away. 1165 01:08:02,526 --> 01:08:06,254 Big complex corporate arrangements were made for us to get 1166 01:08:07,669 --> 01:08:11,363 that little bottle of plastic with water in it. 1167 01:08:11,363 --> 01:08:15,505 It's Coca Cola, it's Nestle, and about 20 other bottlers. 1168 01:08:15,505 --> 01:08:20,510 They go in they often buy or simply grab 1169 01:08:21,959 --> 01:08:25,239 a huge piece of land and they begin to extract the water. 1170 01:08:25,239 --> 01:08:29,277 The water was extracted from a large piece of land 1171 01:08:29,277 --> 01:08:32,108 that used to be the land that produced a livelihood 1172 01:08:32,108 --> 01:08:36,215 and good nice fresh vegetables for small communities 1173 01:08:36,215 --> 01:08:38,873 and small growers small farmers. 1174 01:08:38,873 --> 01:08:43,843 They have lost their habitats because we got our water. 1175 01:08:45,051 --> 01:08:47,537 Think of the millions and millions of people 1176 01:08:48,745 --> 01:08:52,093 who are expelled by those processes. 1177 01:08:52,093 --> 01:08:55,890 So at our borders we get our plastic bottle of water 1178 01:08:55,890 --> 01:09:00,205 and we get our migrants, we never see the connection. 1179 01:09:03,967 --> 01:09:05,279 So the question of Brexit was 1180 01:09:05,279 --> 01:09:08,005 the question of Britishness in a sense. 1181 01:09:08,005 --> 01:09:10,836 And at the same time the question of foreignness. 1182 01:09:10,836 --> 01:09:13,149 What is a foreign, who is a foreign, and what is 1183 01:09:13,149 --> 01:09:15,151 the relationship we have to have with the foreign? 1184 01:09:15,151 --> 01:09:18,326 The idea of Brexit was not that the UK was to leave Europe 1185 01:09:18,326 --> 01:09:21,087 but it was the Europe had to leave the UK. 1186 01:09:21,087 --> 01:09:24,160 So it's not about the UK coming out of Europe 1187 01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:28,129 but it's about expelling Europe from the UK. 1188 01:09:28,129 --> 01:09:29,544 Now what is Europe? 1189 01:09:29,544 --> 01:09:33,652 Well in the perspective of Brexit as in the perspective of 1190 01:09:33,652 --> 01:09:36,137 the majority of the people that voted for Brexit 1191 01:09:36,137 --> 01:09:39,278 Europe was this strange hybrid. 1192 01:09:39,278 --> 01:09:44,283 Europe was the bureaucratic elites the fat cats in Brussels. 1193 01:09:45,733 --> 01:09:48,529 And at the same time it was the kind of dirty immigrants. 1194 01:09:48,529 --> 01:09:50,220 So it's a strange combination of this 1195 01:09:50,220 --> 01:09:54,707 cosmopolitan extravagant elitist world 1196 01:09:54,707 --> 01:09:58,401 and it's dirty dangerous criminal underworld. 1197 01:10:04,752 --> 01:10:09,757 We have had two major migrant subjects, the refugee 1198 01:10:11,034 --> 01:10:12,760 and there is an international law that allows us 1199 01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:17,454 to recognize the refugee when she stands at our borders. 1200 01:10:17,454 --> 01:10:19,249 And then we have the immigrant. 1201 01:10:19,249 --> 01:10:21,320 the immigrant is a strong subject. 1202 01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:24,323 It's extraordinary actually when you think about it 1203 01:10:24,323 --> 01:10:28,500 how few people become immigrants 1204 01:10:28,500 --> 01:10:31,848 given a world with such unequal chances. 1205 01:10:31,848 --> 01:10:34,885 When she appears at our borders there is national law 1206 01:10:34,885 --> 01:10:36,715 which is very messy law by the way. 1207 01:10:36,715 --> 01:10:39,304 But there is law that recognizes her. 1208 01:10:39,304 --> 01:10:43,584 I see in today's epoch really just the last five 1209 01:10:43,584 --> 01:10:46,552 maybe at most in certain areas 10 years 1210 01:10:46,552 --> 01:10:51,523 a third subject who is invisible to the eye of the law. 1211 01:10:52,972 --> 01:10:55,941 And one very sort of brief and a bit exaggerated 1212 01:10:55,941 --> 01:10:58,909 way of putting it is she's the refugee 1213 01:10:58,909 --> 01:11:02,465 of a certain mode of economic development. 1214 01:11:02,465 --> 01:11:06,020 Land grabs, mining, et cetera et cetera. 1215 01:11:06,020 --> 01:11:09,506 In the measures that countries use to measure 1216 01:11:09,506 --> 01:11:13,234 how their economy is doing when a plantation 1217 01:11:13,234 --> 01:11:18,135 when a mine replaces millions of small holders 1218 01:11:18,135 --> 01:11:23,140 of small agricultural people that reads as a positive. 1219 01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:28,111 It shows as GDP per capita growth. 1220 01:11:28,111 --> 01:11:31,010 It does not measure the fact of these millions 1221 01:11:31,010 --> 01:11:36,015 who are expelled who then reappear at the edges of Europe. 1222 01:11:37,189 --> 01:11:39,812 So we are dealing with a very complex cycle 1223 01:11:39,812 --> 01:11:42,643 that connects the destruction of the environment 1224 01:11:42,643 --> 01:11:45,439 which produces a loss of habitat. 1225 01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:48,580 The fact that how we measure that destruction 1226 01:11:48,580 --> 01:11:51,376 of the habitats, we measure it as a positive. 1227 01:11:51,376 --> 01:11:55,449 And the invisibility of this third emergent subject 1228 01:11:55,449 --> 01:12:00,385 that is the subject of our modernity, this modernity. 1229 01:12:01,006 --> 01:12:02,904 [calm music] 1230 01:12:10,843 --> 01:12:13,605 [waves crashing] 1231 01:12:15,710 --> 01:12:18,195 It's often lamented that there aren't enough jobs. 1232 01:12:18,195 --> 01:12:21,060 Of course this is ironic as in the fact that 1233 01:12:21,060 --> 01:12:23,166 there aren't enough jobs should be a good sign. 1234 01:12:23,166 --> 01:12:26,169 As in if jobs are supposed to be 1235 01:12:26,169 --> 01:12:29,655 activities that we do to cater for people's needs. 1236 01:12:29,655 --> 01:12:31,347 And needs are of course these horrible 1237 01:12:31,347 --> 01:12:33,279 thing that we have to get rid of. 1238 01:12:33,279 --> 01:12:35,558 We have this pressing urging need 1239 01:12:35,558 --> 01:12:37,249 and what we want to do is to get rid of it. 1240 01:12:37,249 --> 01:12:38,802 Like we are thirsty we drink. 1241 01:12:38,802 --> 01:12:40,839 Then the fact that there aren't enough jobs 1242 01:12:40,839 --> 01:12:43,048 means that there aren't enough 1243 01:12:43,048 --> 01:12:45,844 unsatisfied needs that we need to satisfy. 1244 01:12:45,844 --> 01:12:49,261 So logically you would say it is a good thing. 1245 01:12:49,261 --> 01:12:52,575 It becomes a bad thing when not having enough jobs 1246 01:12:52,575 --> 01:12:55,163 becomes not having enough income. 1247 01:12:56,613 --> 01:12:59,029 The reason why there aren't enough jobs has to do with 1248 01:12:59,029 --> 01:13:00,617 transformations in the productive 1249 01:13:00,617 --> 01:13:03,344 systems the increasing automation. 1250 01:13:03,344 --> 01:13:05,311 Over the last 100 years there was this 1251 01:13:05,311 --> 01:13:07,935 continuous discussion about the fact that automation 1252 01:13:07,935 --> 01:13:11,110 would reduce working hours in a good way. 1253 01:13:11,110 --> 01:13:13,803 It would require us to work less and less and less. 1254 01:13:13,803 --> 01:13:15,045 In fact that has not happened. 1255 01:13:15,045 --> 01:13:18,117 We work now more than we used to work before. 1256 01:13:18,117 --> 01:13:21,362 The working year of a medieval peasant was actually less 1257 01:13:21,362 --> 01:13:24,917 full than the working year of a collar worker today. 1258 01:13:26,091 --> 01:13:28,127 So often times when we think about automation 1259 01:13:28,127 --> 01:13:32,062 we think about big industrial robots on the assembly line. 1260 01:13:32,062 --> 01:13:33,823 But actually the self driving car 1261 01:13:33,823 --> 01:13:36,757 is a better model for automation today. 1262 01:13:38,206 --> 01:13:40,519 The self driving car, little is 10 years ago 1263 01:13:40,519 --> 01:13:42,107 people were confidently predicting 1264 01:13:42,107 --> 01:13:44,178 that it was basically impossible. 1265 01:13:44,178 --> 01:13:46,732 We would never have a self driving car. 1266 01:13:46,732 --> 01:13:48,803 Now obviously that's not the case. 1267 01:13:48,803 --> 01:13:50,702 the important part about this is that 1268 01:13:50,702 --> 01:13:54,740 there are millions of people working in driving jobs. 1269 01:13:54,740 --> 01:13:57,433 Whether it be truck drivers or delivery drivers 1270 01:13:57,433 --> 01:14:01,644 or taxi drivers if you look at America about 80% 1271 01:14:01,644 --> 01:14:05,268 of the states truck driving is the most popular job. 1272 01:14:05,268 --> 01:14:07,512 So this is a huge huge job sector 1273 01:14:07,512 --> 01:14:09,479 which is going to be impacted by a very 1274 01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:11,930 large amount by this wave of automation. 1275 01:14:13,897 --> 01:14:16,106 So I think a lot of the images of future 1276 01:14:16,106 --> 01:14:20,490 that are offered today oftentimes rely upon the past. 1277 01:14:20,490 --> 01:14:23,631 When we look to mainstream social democratic parties 1278 01:14:23,631 --> 01:14:26,323 when we look to trade unions, when we look to what 1279 01:14:26,323 --> 01:14:28,809 a lot of social movements are offering the idea of 1280 01:14:28,809 --> 01:14:33,123 the future that they offer is simply 1960's capitalism. 1281 01:14:33,123 --> 01:14:37,127 It's Keynesian it's the welfare state and social democracy 1282 01:14:37,127 --> 01:14:39,578 but this isn't actually an image of the future 1283 01:14:39,578 --> 01:14:42,132 so much as an image of a nostalgic past. 1284 01:14:42,132 --> 01:14:44,756 I think a lot of the slogans around making 1285 01:14:44,756 --> 01:14:48,829 America great again or returning the great to Great Britain 1286 01:14:48,829 --> 01:14:51,487 a lot of these are highly racialized slogans which 1287 01:14:51,487 --> 01:14:55,007 actually have an image of a very white sort of country. 1288 01:14:55,007 --> 01:14:58,148 And what they want in fact it's not necessarily 1289 01:14:58,148 --> 01:15:00,841 a return to some previous period of glory 1290 01:15:00,841 --> 01:15:02,359 but instead they want to return to what 1291 01:15:02,359 --> 01:15:04,776 they see as being their white country. 1292 01:15:06,225 --> 01:15:08,262 But I think it's really important to talk about 1293 01:15:08,262 --> 01:15:12,300 the distinctions amongst whiteness. 1294 01:15:12,300 --> 01:15:14,855 Because there's the white working class 1295 01:15:14,855 --> 01:15:16,581 and then there's the white middle class 1296 01:15:16,581 --> 01:15:19,894 and then there's the elite and the super elite 1297 01:15:19,894 --> 01:15:24,243 and each one embodies and holds a different form of power. 1298 01:15:24,243 --> 01:15:29,145 So even though the skin color may seem the same 1299 01:15:29,145 --> 01:15:31,457 they are absolutely situated in 1300 01:15:31,457 --> 01:15:34,288 a different part of the social structure. 1301 01:15:34,288 --> 01:15:36,670 And how they relate to each other 1302 01:15:36,670 --> 01:15:40,570 is important to understanding the dynamics of Brexit 1303 01:15:40,570 --> 01:15:44,816 because actually you have the empowered elite 1304 01:15:44,816 --> 01:15:48,440 and the middle classes voting to remain. 1305 01:15:48,440 --> 01:15:50,442 And you have the working class 1306 01:15:50,442 --> 01:15:53,963 and the abject poor and even within that 1307 01:15:53,963 --> 01:15:58,415 some black working class voting to leave. 1308 01:15:58,415 --> 01:16:02,281 And they feel they want their sovereignty back. 1309 01:16:02,281 --> 01:16:04,560 They want a love of the nation. 1310 01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:09,288 They want to reassert their Britishness, all the things 1311 01:16:09,288 --> 01:16:14,086 that actually smooth the wheels for the political elite. 1312 01:16:14,086 --> 01:16:18,884 Because nationalism is the endgame of capitalism. 1313 01:16:18,884 --> 01:16:23,889 It is the structure of the state that allows the elite 1314 01:16:25,373 --> 01:16:29,412 to gain wealth and status and assert a certain kind 1315 01:16:30,586 --> 01:16:33,209 of white privilege over the white working class. 1316 01:16:33,209 --> 01:16:36,246 And there you have within this heady mixture 1317 01:16:36,246 --> 01:16:40,665 you have the black working class and the migrant groups 1318 01:16:40,665 --> 01:16:43,737 as the kind of cog in the wheel 1319 01:16:43,737 --> 01:16:46,981 that links the white working class to the elite. 1320 01:16:46,981 --> 01:16:50,951 Because by hating and despising the migrant 1321 01:16:50,951 --> 01:16:53,574 you're not looking at the people that are truly 1322 01:16:53,574 --> 01:16:55,749 oppressing you and taking away your benefits 1323 01:16:55,749 --> 01:16:58,268 and removing your industrial base 1324 01:16:58,268 --> 01:16:59,960 so that you are no longer employed 1325 01:16:59,960 --> 01:17:02,997 and not building any houses for the working class. 1326 01:17:02,997 --> 01:17:04,827 No you're not looking at that. 1327 01:17:04,827 --> 01:17:08,244 You're looking at your neighbor who is black and saying 1328 01:17:08,244 --> 01:17:10,522 get out of here which is what happened. 1329 01:17:10,522 --> 01:17:13,490 The moment the Brexit vote happened 1330 01:17:13,490 --> 01:17:17,115 a rise of racism and the verbal abuse 1331 01:17:17,115 --> 01:17:20,359 that happened on the streets was horrendous. 1332 01:17:20,359 --> 01:17:21,775 I mean it happened to me. 1333 01:17:21,775 --> 01:17:24,329 I was walking down the street the day after Brexit 1334 01:17:24,329 --> 01:17:27,435 and an elderly white man told me to go back home. 1335 01:17:27,435 --> 01:17:31,439 This is my home I am black and British. 1336 01:17:31,439 --> 01:17:34,788 So we have a sense in which the idea 1337 01:17:34,788 --> 01:17:36,962 that all white bodies are the same 1338 01:17:36,962 --> 01:17:40,000 is something that we need to disentangle 1339 01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:44,142 because different meanings can stick to different bodies. 1340 01:17:44,142 --> 01:17:46,800 [ominous music] 1341 01:17:59,088 --> 01:18:01,021 What I find so almost harrowing 1342 01:18:01,021 --> 01:18:06,026 about the current condition is how much of it is invisible. 1343 01:18:12,342 --> 01:18:16,864 Brexit is partly a cry of help. 1344 01:18:18,452 --> 01:18:21,938 It's a cry, there's pain in the success of Brexit. 1345 01:18:21,938 --> 01:18:23,975 It represents pain. 1346 01:18:23,975 --> 01:18:27,841 And that is the people who were left behind. 1347 01:18:27,841 --> 01:18:32,190 And to put the burden of Brexit 1348 01:18:32,190 --> 01:18:36,470 on a sort of mindless nationalism 1349 01:18:36,470 --> 01:18:41,268 of those types of workers and families and cities 1350 01:18:41,268 --> 01:18:45,824 that have lost so much ground because of the financializing, 1351 01:18:45,824 --> 01:18:48,275 the corporatizing, and the internationalizing 1352 01:18:48,275 --> 01:18:51,830 of our national economies that is truly unfair. 1353 01:18:53,211 --> 01:18:56,317 More importantly perhaps that doesn't get us anywhere. 1354 01:19:02,161 --> 01:19:12,161 Translation and subtitles by PEPPER & LALASPAIN *** SONG LIVES FOR EVER *** 110563

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