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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:29,719 --> 00:00:32,377 DREW: The one I'm brewing today, the last batch of it, 4 00:00:32,411 --> 00:00:34,896 is probably the closest I've ever come [CHUCKLES] 5 00:00:34,931 --> 00:00:36,726 to being satisfied with a beer. 6 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:38,969 But that just makes the process more fun, 7 00:00:39,004 --> 00:00:40,833 when I have laurels to rest on. 8 00:00:40,868 --> 00:00:43,181 What the heck am I gonna do with all my time? 9 00:00:50,981 --> 00:00:52,259 All right. 10 00:00:53,777 --> 00:00:54,709 [SIGHS] 11 00:00:58,644 --> 00:01:00,853 This is not proper brewing technique. 12 00:01:00,888 --> 00:01:02,890 This is brew technique. 13 00:01:02,924 --> 00:01:04,926 So I'm gonna take my sack of grain, 14 00:01:04,961 --> 00:01:06,549 I'm gonna take my string. 15 00:01:06,583 --> 00:01:09,552 I'm literally just gonna plop it on in there for a swim. 16 00:01:09,586 --> 00:01:11,554 There's just nothing it can hide behind, 17 00:01:11,588 --> 00:01:14,212 nothing you can hide those off flavors behind. 18 00:01:14,246 --> 00:01:18,112 There's a lot of precision that you can put into it if you want to. 19 00:01:18,147 --> 00:01:22,185 And me, being type-A, I wanna put it all in there. 20 00:01:25,188 --> 00:01:27,949 Oh, the waiting is the hardest part. [EXHALES] 21 00:01:27,984 --> 00:01:29,503 Tom Petty knows what's up. 22 00:01:31,470 --> 00:01:34,611 [FUNKY MUSIC PLAYING] 23 00:01:40,272 --> 00:01:41,929 In the last year, 24 00:01:41,963 --> 00:01:45,933 there have been four new breweries opening, every business day. 25 00:01:47,486 --> 00:01:50,489 GARRETT: If you can't put that beer out, 26 00:01:50,524 --> 00:01:52,836 tasting essentially the same every time, 27 00:01:52,871 --> 00:01:57,151 that doesn't mean you're a craft brewer, it means, you can't brew. 28 00:01:57,186 --> 00:01:59,671 There's over 10,000 wineries in the US. 29 00:01:59,705 --> 00:02:03,640 Why can't there be 10, 15, 20,000 breweries? 30 00:02:03,675 --> 00:02:05,987 [PEOPLE CHEERING] 31 00:02:06,022 --> 00:02:07,748 MAN: Be that taste of home. 32 00:02:07,782 --> 00:02:10,820 You know when you come here, right? It's your taste of home. 33 00:02:10,854 --> 00:02:13,754 We're reaching the level of complexity where people know they've got options. 34 00:02:15,583 --> 00:02:17,896 People don't like to talk about it, but there's a bubble, 35 00:02:17,930 --> 00:02:19,415 you know, and bubbles burst. 36 00:02:19,449 --> 00:02:21,071 HOLL: US brewers are really fearless, 37 00:02:21,106 --> 00:02:22,452 and they're willing to try anything. 38 00:02:26,594 --> 00:02:29,321 Brewers, in general, there's a lot of things that are similar, 39 00:02:29,356 --> 00:02:32,359 just as many as there's really different. 40 00:02:32,393 --> 00:02:34,671 Biggest thing they all have in common is facial hair. 41 00:02:38,917 --> 00:02:41,264 RANDY: I like the way it smells, I like the way it looks, 42 00:02:41,299 --> 00:02:42,955 I like the way it tastes. 43 00:02:42,990 --> 00:02:44,405 I like the way it makes me feel. 44 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,305 HOLL: ...and they have been homebrewers who went pro, 45 00:02:47,339 --> 00:02:49,583 uh, because they wanted to follow their dreams. 46 00:03:01,836 --> 00:03:04,356 First time I ever had a beer? All right. 47 00:03:04,391 --> 00:03:06,220 Um, oh, blimey. 48 00:03:06,255 --> 00:03:10,500 The first beer I ever put in my mouth was St. Pauli Girl. 49 00:03:10,535 --> 00:03:13,434 Some sips off of my father's Black Label. 50 00:03:13,469 --> 00:03:16,437 Of course, I was 21 when I had my first beer. 51 00:03:16,472 --> 00:03:17,749 I mean, let's get that straight. 52 00:03:17,783 --> 00:03:20,303 My first beer was Old Milwaukee, 53 00:03:20,338 --> 00:03:22,271 and I stole it out of my grandfather's fridge. 54 00:03:22,305 --> 00:03:24,790 My first beer, most likely, was not stolen out of my dad's cooler, 55 00:03:24,825 --> 00:03:27,345 it was probably stolen out of my next door neighbor's cooler, you know, 56 00:03:27,379 --> 00:03:28,794 like me hopping the fence, 57 00:03:28,829 --> 00:03:30,071 you know, pulling a couple of, uh-- 58 00:03:30,106 --> 00:03:31,728 pulling a couple of Schlitz out of their cooler, 59 00:03:31,763 --> 00:03:34,248 and then going and drinking with my friend in my backyard. 60 00:03:34,283 --> 00:03:37,493 I remember going down with my buddy, Chris Meth, in the cellar, 61 00:03:37,527 --> 00:03:40,737 with my mom's chopping board, a quarter, a glass, 62 00:03:40,772 --> 00:03:43,257 stealing his musette and playing quarters, 63 00:03:43,292 --> 00:03:46,087 and feeling like I saw the gods. 64 00:03:46,122 --> 00:03:48,193 My parents were very strict, 65 00:03:48,228 --> 00:03:53,923 and they made me wait for my first beer until I was four. 66 00:03:53,957 --> 00:03:58,376 And I gave it a little sip, and then I didn't try beer again for, like, ten years. 67 00:03:58,410 --> 00:04:00,481 I was being a nuisance at a dinner party, 68 00:04:00,516 --> 00:04:03,312 and they handed me a little sip of a Genesee Cream Ale 69 00:04:03,346 --> 00:04:04,761 before sending me off to bed. 70 00:04:04,796 --> 00:04:07,626 I was probably a whiny little brat, 71 00:04:07,661 --> 00:04:10,215 and Dad was sick and tired of me, 72 00:04:10,250 --> 00:04:14,254 and at the end of this long day, he's sitting with a bottle, he's like, "Here, drink this." 73 00:04:14,288 --> 00:04:16,152 [LAUGHING] 74 00:04:16,186 --> 00:04:17,878 I remember wanting to spit it out 75 00:04:17,912 --> 00:04:20,294 and wondering why anybody every drank that stuff. 76 00:04:20,329 --> 00:04:23,297 I remember I drank it and it tasted robust, 77 00:04:23,332 --> 00:04:25,230 and hoppy and bitter, I was like, 78 00:04:25,265 --> 00:04:26,645 "Ooh, I don't know." 79 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:29,648 I take a big swig of it, and I was like... [SPITS] 80 00:04:29,683 --> 00:04:30,960 [LAUGHS] 81 00:04:30,994 --> 00:04:34,135 I head back to them, I'm like, "Oh, my God, you drink that?" 82 00:04:38,416 --> 00:04:40,659 What do you need? Onion? You need sage? 83 00:04:40,694 --> 00:04:42,592 I have sage, I have onion. 84 00:04:43,179 --> 00:04:45,008 [BABY BABBLING] 85 00:04:48,460 --> 00:04:49,806 Daddy's cooking dinner. 86 00:04:49,841 --> 00:04:52,568 -Daddy's getting done already. -I'll do it with you. 87 00:04:57,124 --> 00:04:58,021 BRIAN: I'm Brian Reed. 88 00:04:58,056 --> 00:05:00,127 I'm a trade brewer with Tenth and Blake. 89 00:05:00,161 --> 00:05:03,682 I live in Milwaukee, but I'm from Pittsburgh. 90 00:05:03,717 --> 00:05:05,891 You know, beer's always been something that's kinda been around. 91 00:05:05,926 --> 00:05:08,998 My dad is someone who's always enjoyed 92 00:05:09,032 --> 00:05:11,690 kind of experimenting with different beers going out 93 00:05:11,725 --> 00:05:13,520 and kinda hunting stuff down. 94 00:05:13,554 --> 00:05:16,868 So when, you know, I was approaching legal drinking age, 95 00:05:16,902 --> 00:05:19,767 naturally, that curiosity kinda went in that direction. 96 00:05:19,802 --> 00:05:23,012 And I started homebrewing when I was about 19. 97 00:05:23,046 --> 00:05:25,601 I guess I always got more and more involved in homebrewing. 98 00:05:25,635 --> 00:05:28,535 I became a beer judge-- a judge of beer competitions. 99 00:05:28,569 --> 00:05:30,709 You know, I went to college, finished college. 100 00:05:30,744 --> 00:05:32,918 I, you know, majored in something completely different, 101 00:05:32,953 --> 00:05:35,024 and then started kinda poking around, 102 00:05:35,058 --> 00:05:37,371 trying to find a way into the beer business, 103 00:05:37,406 --> 00:05:39,304 'cause I knew that that's what I wanted to do. 104 00:05:39,339 --> 00:05:43,757 I spent almost three years right out of college in 2008, 105 00:05:43,791 --> 00:05:46,587 when the job market was trash. 106 00:05:46,622 --> 00:05:48,658 I got a job in a call center, 107 00:05:48,693 --> 00:05:52,421 and I did customer service for a cell phone provider. 108 00:05:52,455 --> 00:05:56,079 And it was the most soul-sucking, miserable job in the world, 109 00:05:56,114 --> 00:05:57,460 and I did it for three years. 110 00:05:57,495 --> 00:06:00,463 And I was going to a night shift one day, 111 00:06:00,498 --> 00:06:02,258 and I was sitting and having lunch at a bar 112 00:06:02,292 --> 00:06:04,536 that was, you know, served a lot of good beers. 113 00:06:04,571 --> 00:06:06,780 I was talking to the owner who I knew. 114 00:06:06,814 --> 00:06:11,716 And I was like, "If I go in today and put in my two weeks notice, 115 00:06:11,750 --> 00:06:13,200 will you give me a bartending job? 116 00:06:13,234 --> 00:06:14,891 'Cause I'm gonna apply [CHUCKLES] to grad school." 117 00:06:14,926 --> 00:06:16,617 And he was like, "Yeah, sure. Absolutely." 118 00:06:16,652 --> 00:06:19,517 So, then I kinda focused on beer moving forward. 119 00:06:19,551 --> 00:06:22,105 I was lucky enough to get a job as a... 120 00:06:22,140 --> 00:06:25,039 kind of a consulting capacity with a start-up brewery, 121 00:06:25,074 --> 00:06:26,869 which turned into a brewery job, 122 00:06:26,903 --> 00:06:29,734 which eventually turned into a head of brewing operations job. 123 00:06:29,768 --> 00:06:31,839 I teach people about beer. 124 00:06:31,874 --> 00:06:34,808 I help them to build their confidence 125 00:06:34,842 --> 00:06:36,603 in talking about beer and tasting beer, 126 00:06:36,637 --> 00:06:39,951 and expressing the things that they are experiencing and enjoying, 127 00:06:39,985 --> 00:06:41,815 and we kinda help them to do that. 128 00:06:45,301 --> 00:06:47,510 DREW: This is like my redwell. 129 00:06:47,545 --> 00:06:49,512 I don't even know what's in it. 130 00:06:49,547 --> 00:06:53,033 Probably like files on my loans and stuff. 131 00:06:53,067 --> 00:06:54,621 How to get a retail liquor license. 132 00:06:54,655 --> 00:06:57,831 There you go. That's legal for you. 133 00:06:57,865 --> 00:07:02,318 But, again, everything I did, every focus kind of was, 134 00:07:02,352 --> 00:07:04,009 "How do I turn this into beer? 135 00:07:04,044 --> 00:07:07,979 How do I take that next step to get from where I am to where I wanna be? 136 00:07:09,877 --> 00:07:13,191 How do I dig myself out of the hole and the enormous amount of debt?" 137 00:07:13,225 --> 00:07:16,056 My name is Drew Kostic. I live in Brooklyn, New York, 138 00:07:16,090 --> 00:07:18,852 and I'm currently a clerk to a federal judge. 139 00:07:18,886 --> 00:07:21,855 I graduated from undergrad from Colgate University in 2008. 140 00:07:21,889 --> 00:07:24,961 Homebrewing came into play, my junior year. 141 00:07:24,996 --> 00:07:27,999 We were leaving our townhouse which was a wreck, of course, 142 00:07:28,033 --> 00:07:30,588 because it was a group of 16 dudes living in it. 143 00:07:30,622 --> 00:07:32,521 And one of my friends, my roommate, in fact, 144 00:07:32,555 --> 00:07:34,177 had left what's called a Mister Beer Kit. 145 00:07:34,212 --> 00:07:37,387 It's basically like a cheap make-your-own-beer kit 146 00:07:37,422 --> 00:07:39,079 you can get at Bed Bath & Beyond. 147 00:07:39,113 --> 00:07:41,944 And he left it behind, I said, "Why the heck not? Let's do it." 148 00:07:41,978 --> 00:07:45,188 Dug right in, brewed some, what I considered some terrible beer. 149 00:07:45,223 --> 00:07:47,846 I actually put it in the screw top plastic bottles 150 00:07:47,881 --> 00:07:49,848 and all the carbonation evaporated, 151 00:07:49,883 --> 00:07:52,575 so it basically came out like a honey-- honey wine, 152 00:07:52,610 --> 00:07:54,681 almost like an uncarbonated mead. 153 00:07:54,715 --> 00:07:56,993 Uh, but I was hooked. I was in. 154 00:07:57,028 --> 00:07:59,686 Left to move to Poland for a year, 155 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:01,688 and that was where I met the Barts. 156 00:08:01,722 --> 00:08:04,863 Uh, two Flemish Belgians who I lived with. 157 00:08:04,898 --> 00:08:07,348 So they bring this duvel I never had before, 158 00:08:07,383 --> 00:08:10,904 and I watched these two get into a full-on shouting match 159 00:08:10,938 --> 00:08:12,802 about the proper way to pour it, 160 00:08:12,837 --> 00:08:16,461 not even whether it's right duvel, not even the glassware, 161 00:08:16,496 --> 00:08:18,877 but how to properly pour it and what angle it's poured at, 162 00:08:18,912 --> 00:08:20,465 and I thought, "There's something to this." 163 00:08:20,500 --> 00:08:23,192 As I moved throughout Europe and tasted that beer, 164 00:08:23,226 --> 00:08:26,644 I found there's more to brewing than what I'm just doing in my kitchen. 165 00:08:26,678 --> 00:08:28,128 There's more to this culture. 166 00:08:28,162 --> 00:08:31,338 And this happened, of course, this is happening 2008, 2009, 167 00:08:31,372 --> 00:08:36,274 as the brewery movement is just rapidly, rapidly evolving over here in the States. 168 00:08:36,308 --> 00:08:38,759 And I just kinda came at the right time, I guess. 169 00:08:45,421 --> 00:08:49,459 RAY: One other country brewer. It sounds too important, too. 170 00:08:49,494 --> 00:08:54,223 I got involved in the beer community first as a drinker, obviously. 171 00:08:54,257 --> 00:08:56,570 Been a beer-drinking for a long, long time. 172 00:08:56,605 --> 00:08:59,159 And I started homebrewing in 1989. 173 00:08:59,193 --> 00:09:02,438 Making home brew led me to start writing about homebrew, 174 00:09:02,472 --> 00:09:07,029 led me to start organizing events around beer and homebrewing. 175 00:09:07,063 --> 00:09:09,445 And so, I took over Brewers Publications, 176 00:09:09,479 --> 00:09:12,724 and fairly quickly published the most successful title they ever had, 177 00:09:12,759 --> 00:09:14,450 How To Brew by John Palmer. 178 00:09:14,484 --> 00:09:16,348 From that perch, 179 00:09:16,383 --> 00:09:19,213 I basically was surveying all of beer knowledge, 180 00:09:19,248 --> 00:09:23,459 from beginning homebrew all the way through advanced professional brewing. 181 00:09:23,493 --> 00:09:27,601 And it was in that period, when I was transitioning out of the brewing association 182 00:09:27,636 --> 00:09:30,846 that the cicerone concept came to me. 183 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,227 Anybody who's been involved in food and beverage, 184 00:09:33,262 --> 00:09:34,608 has looked at fine wine, 185 00:09:34,643 --> 00:09:37,024 who's familiar with a sommelier for wine, 186 00:09:37,059 --> 00:09:38,405 you know, who's had the idea, 187 00:09:38,439 --> 00:09:41,270 "Oh, maybe we should have a sommelier for beer, right?" 188 00:09:41,304 --> 00:09:44,411 For the people who are excited about beer, 189 00:09:44,445 --> 00:09:47,379 passionate about beer, wanna make beer as a career, 190 00:09:47,414 --> 00:09:51,073 it's a little bit of a beacon of light for them 191 00:09:51,107 --> 00:09:53,420 in terms of having a way to say, 192 00:09:53,454 --> 00:09:56,147 "I'm not just a drunk who decided to, you know, 193 00:09:56,181 --> 00:10:00,151 spend his life around beer all the time so he could drink." Right? 194 00:10:00,185 --> 00:10:02,602 There's actually a professional component to this, 195 00:10:02,636 --> 00:10:06,329 there's actually a knowledge that you have to know that's specific. 196 00:10:06,364 --> 00:10:10,471 And it's actually hard to pass the exam, and I've done that. 197 00:10:10,506 --> 00:10:13,095 And so, I think people take great pride in that. 198 00:10:13,129 --> 00:10:16,512 We have 75,000 certified beer servers, 199 00:10:16,546 --> 00:10:19,998 other 2,500 certified cicerones, 200 00:10:20,033 --> 00:10:22,552 and there are 11 masters. 201 00:10:22,587 --> 00:10:25,866 So, when I started, I thought maybe it'd be like a pyramid, 202 00:10:25,901 --> 00:10:27,143 a triangle kinda thing. 203 00:10:27,178 --> 00:10:29,352 Turns out it's more like a Hershey's Kiss. 204 00:10:29,387 --> 00:10:30,595 [LAUGHING] 205 00:10:30,630 --> 00:10:33,598 It's a very sharp-- very sharp peak at the top there 206 00:10:33,633 --> 00:10:36,912 in terms of, you know, the number of folks who are making it to master. 207 00:10:38,672 --> 00:10:42,331 DREW: I took a position at a large law firm, here in New York, 208 00:10:42,365 --> 00:10:45,437 um, I think something 200 attorneys worldwide, 209 00:10:45,472 --> 00:10:46,576 700 in New York alone. 210 00:10:46,611 --> 00:10:49,165 Was there for a year, moved to a smaller law firm, 211 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,409 which was only about 70 attorneys total. 212 00:10:51,443 --> 00:10:54,136 And since then, I've transitioned into clerking. 213 00:10:54,170 --> 00:10:57,104 Clerking is a wonderful opportunity for a lawyer 214 00:10:57,139 --> 00:11:00,590 to spend a year or two years working with a judge 215 00:11:00,625 --> 00:11:02,178 either at a federal or state level. 216 00:11:02,213 --> 00:11:04,629 I took the position that pays far less 217 00:11:04,664 --> 00:11:08,115 than a private practicing attorney position for the hours, 218 00:11:08,150 --> 00:11:10,531 to be able to do beer school on the side, 219 00:11:10,566 --> 00:11:12,706 to be able to brew frequently on the weekends, 220 00:11:12,741 --> 00:11:18,470 to bring that day down from a 10 to 16-hour work day, seven days a week 221 00:11:18,505 --> 00:11:21,508 to a 40-hour work week, five days a week. 222 00:11:21,542 --> 00:11:23,234 It's something I could manage, 223 00:11:23,268 --> 00:11:26,271 something I could really devote time to beer as my second job. 224 00:11:34,901 --> 00:11:36,281 We have it right there. 225 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:39,802 JASON: My name is Jason Pratt. 226 00:11:39,837 --> 00:11:41,735 I'm the manager of beer education of MilerCoors, 227 00:11:41,770 --> 00:11:45,325 and my relationship to beer is a long, twisted one, I guess, 228 00:11:45,359 --> 00:11:48,984 but it really is something that defines a lot of the things I do right now. 229 00:11:49,018 --> 00:11:51,055 It's a passion point for me. 230 00:11:51,089 --> 00:11:53,574 I recently just found out that I have passed theMaster Cicerone exam, 231 00:11:53,609 --> 00:11:55,853 so I'm one of 11 master cicerones in the world. 232 00:11:55,887 --> 00:11:58,683 So that's something that I take a lot of pride in. 233 00:11:58,718 --> 00:12:02,549 One of the biggest things for me is that Brian is taking theMaster Cicerone exam 234 00:12:02,583 --> 00:12:04,033 at the end of October. 235 00:12:04,068 --> 00:12:05,863 So I'm gonna do everything I can from now until then 236 00:12:05,897 --> 00:12:08,935 to make sure that I'm giving just all the help and support that I can, 237 00:12:08,969 --> 00:12:11,006 any resources that we have available to us 238 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:12,628 to help him get there. 239 00:12:12,662 --> 00:12:14,526 BRIAN: For me, it started out as, 240 00:12:14,561 --> 00:12:16,666 you know, "I wanna be a beer educator for a living, 241 00:12:16,701 --> 00:12:21,568 so I should probably spend some earnest time learning about beer." 242 00:12:21,602 --> 00:12:23,673 And then it kinda started me down that path. 243 00:12:23,708 --> 00:12:27,505 And after achieving, like, certified level and things like that, 244 00:12:27,539 --> 00:12:29,818 uh, just being, I think, probably a naturally, 245 00:12:29,852 --> 00:12:33,994 you know, competitive person, probably with a little bit of chip on his shoulder, 246 00:12:34,029 --> 00:12:37,342 I said, you know, "I wanna go for master level." 247 00:12:37,377 --> 00:12:40,138 I took it the first time really prepared, 248 00:12:40,173 --> 00:12:41,864 you know, mostly on my own. 249 00:12:41,899 --> 00:12:45,143 Came up just perilously short. 250 00:12:45,178 --> 00:12:47,905 So it's almost worse than failing it by landslide. 251 00:12:47,939 --> 00:12:52,254 And I'm studying to take the master exam in October, so we'll see. 252 00:12:52,288 --> 00:12:53,980 AUTOMATED VOICE SPEAKING: Base malts usually represent 253 00:12:54,014 --> 00:12:56,568 the majority of the grest for grain bill. 254 00:12:56,603 --> 00:13:00,089 They have enough distatic power to convert their own starches 255 00:13:00,124 --> 00:13:03,058 and some starch from unmalted grain. 256 00:13:03,092 --> 00:13:05,577 Distatic power of about 140 degrees lintner. 257 00:13:05,612 --> 00:13:10,375 It has a mild flavor that has a slightly grainy, honeyed flavor characteristic. 258 00:13:10,410 --> 00:13:13,965 DREW: Right now, I am a graduate student at Auburn University, 259 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:18,245 and what my class is, it's the Auburn Graduate Certificate Program 260 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:21,317 in brewing science and brewing operations. 261 00:13:21,352 --> 00:13:24,079 While based at Auburn, it's a distance learning program 262 00:13:24,113 --> 00:13:25,735 that you can do while fully employed. 263 00:13:25,770 --> 00:13:28,290 It's actually the first of its nature in the United States. 264 00:13:28,324 --> 00:13:31,845 It's only one of two graduate programs in the United States 265 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:33,019 for brewing, 266 00:13:33,053 --> 00:13:35,228 and with the intention of presenting somebody 267 00:13:35,262 --> 00:13:37,575 for the brewing operations business. 268 00:13:38,887 --> 00:13:40,681 So, the rest of the year, short term, 269 00:13:40,716 --> 00:13:44,927 maintain my intense focus on getting my class work done. 270 00:13:44,962 --> 00:13:46,515 I mean, I want 100 on everything. 271 00:13:46,549 --> 00:13:49,138 This isn't some, you know, joke class in college, 272 00:13:49,173 --> 00:13:51,313 or a side prerequisite I have to take. 273 00:13:51,347 --> 00:13:53,729 This is my life. This is what I want for my career. 274 00:13:53,763 --> 00:13:57,457 This is what I want to satisfy every yearning inside of me. 275 00:13:57,491 --> 00:14:01,150 And so, my goal is to be the perfect student that I can. 276 00:14:01,185 --> 00:14:04,291 Short term, additionally, find an internship in the area 277 00:14:04,326 --> 00:14:05,499 for part-time, 278 00:14:05,534 --> 00:14:07,294 I think it's between 10 and 12 hours a week, 279 00:14:07,329 --> 00:14:09,607 for my practicum aspect of it this summer, 280 00:14:09,641 --> 00:14:13,059 which, again, you know, you can't get tired when you're doing what you love, 281 00:14:13,093 --> 00:14:17,753 so I'm not too worried about having to focus to do 6:00 a.m. brewing sessions 282 00:14:17,787 --> 00:14:20,376 or 8:00 p.m. brewing sessions. 283 00:14:20,411 --> 00:14:23,897 And the long term focus is to make Drew's Brews, 284 00:14:23,932 --> 00:14:26,900 a functioning, operating brewery. 285 00:14:26,935 --> 00:14:28,453 [LIVELY PIANO MUSIC PLAYING] 286 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:42,778 The big things that have happened, you know, in American brewing, 287 00:14:42,812 --> 00:14:46,230 you had the movement in the 1800s 288 00:14:46,264 --> 00:14:50,027 of what was essentially a cottage industry, 289 00:14:50,061 --> 00:14:52,892 that was virtually, in many cases, 290 00:14:52,926 --> 00:14:55,135 on an almost homebrewing sort of level, 291 00:14:55,170 --> 00:14:58,069 to really becoming business. 292 00:14:58,104 --> 00:15:00,451 And you had, yes, you had small businesses. 293 00:15:00,485 --> 00:15:04,386 Also, one of the biggest things was the wave of German immigration 294 00:15:04,420 --> 00:15:08,459 into United States who brought in lager brewing. 295 00:15:08,493 --> 00:15:12,290 And we got that more, sort of, variegated beer culture. 296 00:15:12,325 --> 00:15:18,158 If you were in a place like New York City in, say, 1880, 1890, 297 00:15:18,193 --> 00:15:22,714 what you would have seen was the most diverse beer culture 298 00:15:22,749 --> 00:15:24,509 on the face of the Earth. 299 00:15:24,544 --> 00:15:26,270 So, we had everything. 300 00:15:26,304 --> 00:15:31,102 What happened is that we had 4,000 breweries in the United States, 301 00:15:31,137 --> 00:15:33,760 and we had tremendous diversity, 302 00:15:33,794 --> 00:15:38,109 and then, the matrix, which is modern food-making, 303 00:15:38,144 --> 00:15:42,596 squeezed everything down to a narrow channel. 304 00:15:42,631 --> 00:15:47,222 And the idea is that we're going to apply technology, 305 00:15:47,256 --> 00:15:51,157 we also had the extra impetus of prohibition. 306 00:15:51,191 --> 00:15:54,056 On the other side of prohibition, 13 years, 307 00:15:54,091 --> 00:15:58,371 but the most monumental 13 years you can imagine. 308 00:15:58,405 --> 00:16:01,098 NEWSCASTER: The lid is off in many places 309 00:16:01,132 --> 00:16:03,203 with the downfall of prohibition 310 00:16:03,238 --> 00:16:06,551 being celebrated in real, old-time high alert. 311 00:16:06,586 --> 00:16:09,623 Yes, and by the renewal of all acquaintances, 312 00:16:09,658 --> 00:16:11,349 hotels and night clubs 313 00:16:11,384 --> 00:16:15,491 record a real prewar spirit among those revelers. 314 00:16:15,526 --> 00:16:18,149 So you come out the other end in 1933, 315 00:16:18,184 --> 00:16:20,565 and suddenly, you have radio networks 316 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:24,466 and trucks, and a developed road system. 317 00:16:24,500 --> 00:16:27,883 And for the first time, you have true mass communication 318 00:16:27,917 --> 00:16:29,712 across the entire United States 319 00:16:29,747 --> 00:16:32,370 and the ability to bring you the product. 320 00:16:32,405 --> 00:16:34,855 And these two things together 321 00:16:34,890 --> 00:16:38,445 start this process where they say, "Wait a minute. 322 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:41,759 If we can actually cancel the past 323 00:16:41,793 --> 00:16:45,590 in the matrix, we make you forget the reality." 324 00:16:45,625 --> 00:16:48,869 You know, "You don't remember what tasty wheat tasted like. 325 00:16:48,904 --> 00:16:50,492 And now, we're gonna tell you, 326 00:16:50,526 --> 00:16:53,840 and we're gonna tell you there was only ever this one thing. 327 00:16:53,874 --> 00:16:55,945 And now we can sell it to you, 328 00:16:55,980 --> 00:16:59,639 and we can deliver it to you and we can advertise it to you 329 00:16:59,673 --> 00:17:00,881 all day, forever. 330 00:17:00,916 --> 00:17:04,437 And then we have all the money." 331 00:17:04,471 --> 00:17:07,543 Right. So, is everybody familiar with kinda how this works? 332 00:17:07,578 --> 00:17:09,097 -MAN: No. -Okay. 333 00:17:09,131 --> 00:17:12,617 Uh, what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna pour eight beers into glasses for you. 334 00:17:12,652 --> 00:17:14,550 We can set them up sample one through eight. 335 00:17:15,931 --> 00:17:16,897 Beer number one. 336 00:17:18,416 --> 00:17:22,351 The Master Cicerone exam takes place over two days. 337 00:17:22,386 --> 00:17:23,939 It's about ten hours. 338 00:17:23,973 --> 00:17:27,805 They're going to answer 10 to 12 in-depth essay questions, 339 00:17:27,839 --> 00:17:31,257 participate in 12 different oral examinations. 340 00:17:31,291 --> 00:17:36,952 They're going to undertake eight different tasting exam panels. 341 00:17:36,986 --> 00:17:39,334 We expect a master cicerone 342 00:17:39,368 --> 00:17:43,476 to have the technical skills and knowledge 343 00:17:43,510 --> 00:17:46,720 to be considered a professional peer, a master brewer. 344 00:17:46,755 --> 00:17:48,791 We also expect that master cicerone 345 00:17:48,826 --> 00:17:52,657 to have the ability to speak with consumers 346 00:17:52,692 --> 00:17:55,764 at a level that consumers can understand and relate to. 347 00:17:55,798 --> 00:17:59,008 You need to be very knowledgeable about beers, 348 00:17:59,043 --> 00:18:02,391 beer style, beer-tasting, off flavors, 349 00:18:02,426 --> 00:18:05,843 brewing, draft systems, beer and food. 350 00:18:05,877 --> 00:18:09,122 RAY: The fact that it's hard to be a part of the group, 351 00:18:09,157 --> 00:18:13,747 of that elite group that can call themselves a master cicerone... 352 00:18:14,231 --> 00:18:16,578 [INDISTINCT CHATTER] 353 00:18:20,996 --> 00:18:24,965 The goal for me is the goal that's been there since the day... 354 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:28,935 My second year of law school I figured out I didn't wanna be a lawyer anymore. 355 00:18:28,969 --> 00:18:32,766 And that is to continue down the path one more step, 356 00:18:32,801 --> 00:18:35,217 and if I make that next step and it goes right, 357 00:18:35,252 --> 00:18:37,875 I'm going to continue on the next step. 358 00:18:37,909 --> 00:18:39,290 I'm cutting right down to it. 359 00:18:39,325 --> 00:18:41,016 I've got two goals here. 360 00:18:41,050 --> 00:18:45,124 I need to both, finish the business plan as the founder of Drew's Brews, 361 00:18:45,158 --> 00:18:47,885 and really coalesce it into something 362 00:18:47,919 --> 00:18:51,302 that is absolutely proper to hand to an investor. 363 00:18:51,337 --> 00:18:53,201 And the reason why that's important, 364 00:18:53,235 --> 00:18:55,099 is 'cause I'm planning on handing it to somebody. 365 00:18:55,134 --> 00:18:59,034 I found somebody who is interested in at least hearing the pitch, 366 00:18:59,068 --> 00:19:00,587 at least seeing the business plan. 367 00:19:00,622 --> 00:19:02,969 On the flip side, I'm playing student. 368 00:19:03,003 --> 00:19:05,592 I need to get an internship. 369 00:19:05,627 --> 00:19:09,389 So I need to both, be a lawyer for the federal judiciary, [LAUGHS] 370 00:19:09,424 --> 00:19:11,840 and an intern, cleaning kegs and barrels. 371 00:19:11,874 --> 00:19:14,532 And then, on top of it, be the founder of a company, 372 00:19:14,567 --> 00:19:18,536 be a start-up entrepreneur, for lack of a better word, 373 00:19:18,571 --> 00:19:22,575 and convincing that investor that what I have is what they want. 374 00:19:22,609 --> 00:19:24,473 And I need this to be the real deal 375 00:19:24,508 --> 00:19:27,338 because this could be make-or-break for the rest of my life. 376 00:19:30,203 --> 00:19:32,171 ♪ When you say "Bud" 377 00:19:32,205 --> 00:19:36,313 ♪ You've said a lot of things Nobody else can say ♪ 378 00:19:37,003 --> 00:19:39,074 ♪ When you say "Bud" 379 00:19:39,108 --> 00:19:43,285 ♪ You've gone as far as you Can go to get the very best ♪ 380 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:46,702 I think we need to step back 30, 40 years ago, 381 00:19:46,737 --> 00:19:50,189 when the whole new-age beer revolution started in the US. 382 00:19:50,223 --> 00:19:53,053 That's when all the big global players started coming in, 383 00:19:53,088 --> 00:19:56,367 producing "golden lagers" 384 00:19:56,402 --> 00:19:59,163 with very little taste, a lot of CO2. 385 00:19:59,198 --> 00:20:01,648 Basically produced to be only refreshing. 386 00:20:01,683 --> 00:20:03,616 The whole marketing campaigns, 387 00:20:03,650 --> 00:20:06,343 where the folks sing more about what's behind the beer 388 00:20:06,377 --> 00:20:08,379 rather than what's in the glass. 389 00:20:09,380 --> 00:20:13,453 ♪ My beer is Rheingold The dry beer ♪ 390 00:20:13,488 --> 00:20:15,800 ♪ Rocky mountain high 391 00:20:15,835 --> 00:20:19,356 ♪ Make it yours Make it Coors ♪ 392 00:20:19,390 --> 00:20:21,565 ♪ Make it yours 393 00:20:21,599 --> 00:20:24,671 ♪ Schmidt's One beautiful beer ♪ 394 00:20:24,706 --> 00:20:27,122 Schmidt's, you're beautiful. 395 00:20:27,156 --> 00:20:28,468 ANNOUNCER: Lite beer for Miller. 396 00:20:28,503 --> 00:20:30,746 Everything you always wanted in a beer. And less. 397 00:20:30,781 --> 00:20:33,093 ANNOUNCER: Just tell 'em, "Gimme a Dixie." 398 00:20:33,128 --> 00:20:35,682 They often have a tagline 399 00:20:35,717 --> 00:20:37,891 that kind of explains what they want you to be thought of. 400 00:20:37,926 --> 00:20:40,756 You know, a lot of people think Billy and I argue all the time. 401 00:20:40,791 --> 00:20:43,276 Actually, we agree on just about everything. Right, Bill? 402 00:20:43,311 --> 00:20:44,553 You bet you, George. 403 00:20:44,588 --> 00:20:46,935 We even drink the same beer. Lite beer for Miller. 404 00:20:46,969 --> 00:20:48,385 Excuse me. 405 00:20:48,419 --> 00:20:51,560 I'm not the same crazy coach who used to storm around the sidelines, 406 00:20:51,595 --> 00:20:52,975 yelling at the officials, 407 00:20:53,010 --> 00:20:54,460 I have learned to relax, 408 00:20:54,494 --> 00:20:56,289 and I drink Lite beer for Miller. 409 00:20:56,324 --> 00:20:57,842 No wonder you don't get no respect. 410 00:20:57,877 --> 00:21:00,362 I tell you, I don't deserve no respect. 411 00:21:00,397 --> 00:21:03,952 ♪ When you say Budweiser ♪ 412 00:21:03,986 --> 00:21:05,402 ♪ You've said it all 413 00:21:07,887 --> 00:21:10,269 HOLL: In the US, in the mid-1970s, 414 00:21:10,303 --> 00:21:13,858 beer was a large, mass-produced food item 415 00:21:13,893 --> 00:21:15,515 that had no, you know, 416 00:21:15,550 --> 00:21:17,276 didn't have a bunch of flavor to it. 417 00:21:17,310 --> 00:21:18,829 It had talent behind it, certainly, 418 00:21:18,863 --> 00:21:21,314 but there wasn't a lot of inventiveness that was happening. 419 00:21:21,349 --> 00:21:23,316 And there's a guy named Jack McAuliffe 420 00:21:23,351 --> 00:21:25,145 who was a naval engineer, 421 00:21:25,180 --> 00:21:28,839 worked at US subs over in the UK, toured around the globe. 422 00:21:28,873 --> 00:21:32,670 JIM: England had a homebrewing tradition, and so exposed to that, 423 00:21:32,705 --> 00:21:37,296 decided to start a brewery in Sonoma, California, 424 00:21:37,330 --> 00:21:39,228 and make a pale ale. 425 00:21:39,263 --> 00:21:41,334 HOLL: He found old dairy equipment, 426 00:21:41,369 --> 00:21:42,922 old stainless steel, cobbled it together, 427 00:21:42,956 --> 00:21:45,062 welded it together, and created a brewery, 428 00:21:45,096 --> 00:21:46,684 got a brewery license, 429 00:21:46,719 --> 00:21:49,894 and started brewing about four barrels of beer at a time. 430 00:21:49,929 --> 00:21:52,690 His beer was called New Albion, 431 00:21:52,725 --> 00:21:57,833 and it was the defining American craft ale. 432 00:21:57,868 --> 00:22:00,940 And where he was in California, he attracted a lot of attention. 433 00:22:00,974 --> 00:22:03,460 The Washington Post came out, The New York Times came out. 434 00:22:03,494 --> 00:22:06,325 Educators from University of California, Davis, 435 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:07,602 that has a brewing school, came out, 436 00:22:07,636 --> 00:22:09,362 saw what Jack was doing and realized 437 00:22:09,397 --> 00:22:12,572 that they had to change their curriculum, 'cause up until that point, 438 00:22:12,607 --> 00:22:14,194 they were basically training brewers 439 00:22:14,229 --> 00:22:16,438 to go work in large commercial breweries around the world. 440 00:22:16,473 --> 00:22:18,923 And now they realized that you could have these small breweries 441 00:22:18,958 --> 00:22:20,925 that are no bigger than this apartment right here 442 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,721 where people could actually, uh, make beer. 443 00:22:23,756 --> 00:22:28,761 He was in business for eight years before he went bankrupt. 444 00:22:28,795 --> 00:22:33,628 But he at least demonstrated that, "Hey, you can start a brewery." 445 00:22:33,662 --> 00:22:35,077 Which was a weird idea. 446 00:22:35,112 --> 00:22:38,840 Homebrewing was legalized by Jimmy Carter in 1976. 447 00:22:38,874 --> 00:22:41,118 I guess after prohibition, they had, sort of, 448 00:22:41,152 --> 00:22:44,811 forgotten about legalizing it along with legalizing home wine-making. 449 00:22:44,846 --> 00:22:46,675 Then the flood gates were open, 450 00:22:46,710 --> 00:22:50,230 and people started providing information and support for brewers and clubs, 451 00:22:50,265 --> 00:22:54,545 and so you started to see these little communities nucleate 452 00:22:54,580 --> 00:22:56,236 around the homebrewing shops. 453 00:22:56,271 --> 00:22:59,930 It's kind of the... the place where all the people revolved around, 454 00:22:59,964 --> 00:23:02,657 and it was really the beginning of all of the communities 455 00:23:02,691 --> 00:23:04,762 that eventually turned into craft beer. 456 00:23:07,662 --> 00:23:10,216 Are we stacking these? Are we going for like, the cool disheveled look? 457 00:23:10,250 --> 00:23:12,321 -Like, "I woke out of bed." -Like I don't even care. 458 00:23:12,356 --> 00:23:14,116 I made my hair look like this. [LAUGHS] 459 00:23:14,151 --> 00:23:16,015 [IN HIGH-PITCHED VOICE] I woke up like this. 460 00:23:16,049 --> 00:23:17,499 [CHUCKLING] 461 00:23:19,156 --> 00:23:21,434 BRIAN: The smooth pour, the mliko pour. 462 00:23:21,469 --> 00:23:24,299 So the crisp pour, more gas, intentionally, 463 00:23:24,333 --> 00:23:27,820 and the side pour faucet allows you to control the amount of gas 464 00:23:27,854 --> 00:23:29,304 that stays in the solution. 465 00:23:29,338 --> 00:23:33,204 So, when you open it wide open and it's pouring bright beer, 466 00:23:33,239 --> 00:23:35,724 and you pour that from the beginning to the top, 467 00:23:35,759 --> 00:23:37,416 and then you pour a foam on top, 468 00:23:37,450 --> 00:23:40,453 you have all this beer below it that is chock-full of gas. 469 00:23:40,488 --> 00:23:41,661 It's a different beer. 470 00:23:41,696 --> 00:23:43,214 It's a different beer for a different occasion. 471 00:23:50,083 --> 00:23:53,501 Uh, we've got seven courses for you guys tonight, 472 00:23:53,535 --> 00:23:56,918 and, uh, so it's a full beer dinner that we're doing here. 473 00:23:56,952 --> 00:24:01,094 So what we have is a polenta. 474 00:24:01,129 --> 00:24:04,443 that's gonna compliment the inherent malt sweetness of this beer. 475 00:24:04,477 --> 00:24:07,480 So this German pilsner, it's got that hop character to it. 476 00:24:07,515 --> 00:24:09,171 It's dry, it's got a lingering bitterness 477 00:24:09,206 --> 00:24:10,863 that's gonna cut through any type of richness 478 00:24:10,897 --> 00:24:14,211 from that kinda unctuous, uh, chicken broth. 479 00:24:14,245 --> 00:24:16,006 [INDISTINCT CHATTER] 480 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:17,904 JASON: I would say that The Great American Beer Festival, 481 00:24:17,939 --> 00:24:20,528 is kinda like the Super Bowl, I guess, in the brewing industry every year. 482 00:24:20,562 --> 00:24:22,150 People come in, your beers are judged. 483 00:24:22,184 --> 00:24:23,876 It's a competition, but at the same time, 484 00:24:23,910 --> 00:24:26,188 it's just a celebration of all things beer. 485 00:24:26,223 --> 00:24:27,845 BRIAN: When people say, "What do you do?" 486 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,572 I hesitate to tell them flat out 487 00:24:30,607 --> 00:24:33,610 that I drink and talk about beer for a living, 488 00:24:33,644 --> 00:24:35,957 because it sounds a little ridiculous, 489 00:24:35,991 --> 00:24:37,027 and I, you know, 490 00:24:37,061 --> 00:24:39,443 it sounds like kind of a humble brag, I guess. 491 00:24:39,478 --> 00:24:42,411 But, like, really, that's a huge part of what you do, 492 00:24:42,446 --> 00:24:44,793 is talk to people about beer. 493 00:24:44,828 --> 00:24:46,933 Like, get them excited about beer. 494 00:24:55,563 --> 00:24:58,531 I went to college for geology. I love science. 495 00:24:58,566 --> 00:25:01,016 I didn't know what I wanted to do when I got out of college. 496 00:25:01,051 --> 00:25:03,156 I called a buddy I knew and said, 497 00:25:03,191 --> 00:25:04,744 "I need a job. I'll do anything. 498 00:25:04,779 --> 00:25:07,264 Just something to tide me over while I apply to grad school." 499 00:25:07,298 --> 00:25:10,267 Uh, and he said, "Well, I'm working at this little local brewery, 500 00:25:10,301 --> 00:25:14,064 and my boss today just said we needed a keg washer part-time." 501 00:25:14,098 --> 00:25:19,379 It was the first time I'd seen a trade or a business or an occupation 502 00:25:19,414 --> 00:25:23,763 that combined everything that I wanted to have in a career. 503 00:25:23,798 --> 00:25:26,110 So that was science, of course. 504 00:25:26,145 --> 00:25:27,698 Right when you walk into a brewery, 505 00:25:27,733 --> 00:25:30,667 you see there's a big science component to brewing beer. 506 00:25:30,701 --> 00:25:32,600 A mechanical side. 507 00:25:32,634 --> 00:25:37,570 I love working with my hands, and there was pipes everywhere and electrical stuff. 508 00:25:37,605 --> 00:25:39,296 And then the art side of it. 509 00:25:39,330 --> 00:25:43,818 There's, of course, a big creative component to making beer, 510 00:25:43,852 --> 00:25:45,267 with recipe formulations. 511 00:25:45,302 --> 00:25:48,063 And I saw, just in two days of working there, 512 00:25:48,098 --> 00:25:50,341 I was immediately in love with it. 513 00:25:50,376 --> 00:25:55,070 So I moved over here and I started in this space here, 514 00:25:55,105 --> 00:25:57,970 but just try to keep it extremely simple, 515 00:25:58,004 --> 00:26:02,561 and just brewed one beer, Allagash White, draft only, 516 00:26:02,595 --> 00:26:04,148 just for the local market. 517 00:26:04,183 --> 00:26:08,049 Really, for the first few years, even in those accounts, 518 00:26:08,083 --> 00:26:10,016 that were willing to take a chance on us. 519 00:26:10,051 --> 00:26:12,950 I was lucky they were loyal to us, 'cause the beer didn't sell. 520 00:26:19,232 --> 00:26:22,684 I got started in beer by being born, [CHUCKLES SOFTLY] 521 00:26:22,719 --> 00:26:27,586 uh, because I was born to a family of brewers. 522 00:26:27,620 --> 00:26:32,038 As the sixth oldest son in a row, 523 00:26:32,073 --> 00:26:33,868 destined to become a brewer. 524 00:26:33,902 --> 00:26:38,355 I grew up in Cincinnati, which, when I was growing up, 525 00:26:38,389 --> 00:26:42,842 had one of the best beer cultures in the United States. 526 00:26:42,877 --> 00:26:45,293 I was lucky when I started 527 00:26:45,327 --> 00:26:49,642 because, uh, I had a couple advantages. 528 00:26:49,677 --> 00:26:51,575 I didn't really have any money, 529 00:26:51,610 --> 00:26:54,578 um, and nobody wanted my beer. 530 00:26:54,613 --> 00:26:57,616 So, I didn't really overthink it. 531 00:26:57,650 --> 00:27:00,101 I just said, "Okay, I'm gonna... 532 00:27:00,135 --> 00:27:02,897 First, I'm gonna make the beer." 533 00:27:02,931 --> 00:27:06,176 I need a recipe. My dad took me up in the attic. 534 00:27:06,210 --> 00:27:08,523 He gave me these yellowed sheets 535 00:27:08,557 --> 00:27:14,080 that had the family recipe from the Louis Koch Brewery. 536 00:27:14,115 --> 00:27:15,392 I started making it at home, 537 00:27:15,426 --> 00:27:17,808 'cause I'd homebrewed, I knew how to make beer. 538 00:27:17,843 --> 00:27:22,986 And then I scaled it up by finding existing brewery 539 00:27:23,020 --> 00:27:26,334 that had traditional equipment that would allow me to come in 540 00:27:26,368 --> 00:27:27,991 and make my beer. 541 00:27:28,025 --> 00:27:30,200 So I thought, "Okay, now I've got this beer." 542 00:27:30,234 --> 00:27:33,686 At the time, I didn't have enough money for six packs. 543 00:27:33,721 --> 00:27:35,723 All I had were loose cases of beer, 544 00:27:35,757 --> 00:27:38,760 so I couldn't sell in stores of any kind, 545 00:27:38,795 --> 00:27:41,625 I could only sell to bars and restaurants. 546 00:27:41,660 --> 00:27:44,145 Um, but, you know, that was what it was. 547 00:27:44,179 --> 00:27:48,667 So, uh, and there were five beer distributors in Boston. 548 00:27:48,701 --> 00:27:50,047 They all turned me down. 549 00:27:50,082 --> 00:27:51,911 And I thought, "Well, I don't have a choice. 550 00:27:51,946 --> 00:27:55,156 I'm gonna go from bar to bar with my beer, 551 00:27:55,190 --> 00:27:58,953 and I'm gonna get people to taste it, 552 00:27:58,987 --> 00:28:01,300 and somebody's gonna take it." 553 00:28:12,552 --> 00:28:15,797 VACLAV: I'm brewmaster of Pilsner Urquell Beer. 554 00:28:15,832 --> 00:28:17,316 I'm lucky man, 555 00:28:17,350 --> 00:28:20,560 uh, because I was born in the city 556 00:28:20,595 --> 00:28:22,562 where was born the beer, 557 00:28:22,597 --> 00:28:27,015 uh, which gives to the world name for beer, "Pilsner." 558 00:28:27,050 --> 00:28:29,604 My father, in third generation, 559 00:28:29,638 --> 00:28:31,882 lots of Berka boys here as well. 560 00:28:31,917 --> 00:28:35,161 And I visited old department with him, 561 00:28:35,196 --> 00:28:38,509 and I trained, of course, uh, every single... 562 00:28:38,544 --> 00:28:41,547 what is necessary to do for brewing a good beer. 563 00:28:41,581 --> 00:28:46,448 And it led to this, on the end of this practice, 564 00:28:46,483 --> 00:28:50,590 I was able to brew my private brew of Pilsner Urquell. 565 00:28:58,460 --> 00:29:00,497 GARRETT: I am from, originally, Queens, New York, 566 00:29:00,531 --> 00:29:03,155 but I've been a Brooklynite for a great many years. 567 00:29:03,189 --> 00:29:04,777 We drank beer in college, 568 00:29:04,812 --> 00:29:07,676 but the sort of secret was we didn't like it. 569 00:29:07,711 --> 00:29:08,885 We didn't actually like it. 570 00:29:08,919 --> 00:29:11,508 It was just there, like everything else, 571 00:29:11,542 --> 00:29:15,443 like Kamikazes, and, uh, and White Russians. 572 00:29:15,477 --> 00:29:18,446 It was just another thing that you could drink. 573 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:19,619 And to tell you the truth, 574 00:29:19,654 --> 00:29:23,382 we drank... we drank Budweiser when he had money. 575 00:29:23,416 --> 00:29:27,351 I didn't really start thinking about beer differently until I got to England. 576 00:29:27,386 --> 00:29:28,905 I'm like, "I'm going to the pub." 577 00:29:28,939 --> 00:29:32,978 And I discovered that beer could be beautiful. 578 00:29:33,012 --> 00:29:34,876 And it was a complete revelation. 579 00:29:34,911 --> 00:29:38,466 And homebrewing was, at first, a necessity. 580 00:29:38,500 --> 00:29:42,021 It was the only way to get the beer that I wanted to drink. 581 00:29:42,056 --> 00:29:44,610 And I wasn't actually interested in doing it. 582 00:29:44,644 --> 00:29:47,682 And then I kind of fell in love with the process, 583 00:29:47,716 --> 00:29:48,959 and the camaraderie, 584 00:29:48,994 --> 00:29:51,686 and the clubs that would grow up around it. 585 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,412 And at the time, I had a job, 586 00:29:53,446 --> 00:29:55,863 and it was a well-payed cushy job. 587 00:29:55,897 --> 00:30:00,281 You know, I was actually working in a law office at that point. 588 00:30:00,315 --> 00:30:02,973 When I took the job at Manhattan Brewing Company, 589 00:30:03,008 --> 00:30:05,286 my income fell by 75%, 590 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,496 and I was in a room full of boiling liquid in the middle of July 591 00:30:08,530 --> 00:30:09,738 with no air conditioning. 592 00:30:09,773 --> 00:30:11,188 [CHUCKLES] And I was in there saying to myself, 593 00:30:11,223 --> 00:30:16,504 "I have a degree, and I was being paid really well. 594 00:30:16,538 --> 00:30:17,885 I was saving money. 595 00:30:17,919 --> 00:30:19,265 And now, I'm a plumber." 596 00:30:19,300 --> 00:30:22,027 I'm not even a good plumber who's being paid well, 597 00:30:22,061 --> 00:30:24,995 like, I'm a dog's buddy plumber. 598 00:30:25,030 --> 00:30:26,859 Um, "What have I done?" 599 00:30:26,894 --> 00:30:30,725 And I think that everybody probably has that moment that you have to recover from. 600 00:30:30,759 --> 00:30:33,072 I'm sure it's the same for every professional chef. 601 00:30:33,107 --> 00:30:37,559 It's like you're gonna end up in the kitchen, and it's, you know, [LAUGHS] 602 00:30:37,594 --> 00:30:38,940 it's a ghastly place. 603 00:30:38,975 --> 00:30:40,562 You better fall in love with it. 604 00:30:40,597 --> 00:30:41,770 [MACHINE HISSING] 605 00:30:41,805 --> 00:30:43,117 DREW: All right. 606 00:30:43,151 --> 00:30:45,015 [INDISTINCT CONVERSATION] 607 00:30:45,050 --> 00:30:46,603 -Hey, guys. -Hey. 608 00:30:46,637 --> 00:30:48,191 -Here to work. -Cool. 609 00:30:51,919 --> 00:30:55,301 So it's a little nerve-wracking starting any first job, internship, 610 00:30:55,336 --> 00:30:56,924 showing up as the new guy anywhere, 611 00:30:56,958 --> 00:31:00,272 but, you know, within the first 15 minutes, 612 00:31:00,306 --> 00:31:02,343 I got back to what I know I do best, 613 00:31:02,377 --> 00:31:04,276 which is cleaning stuff. [LAUGHS] 614 00:31:04,310 --> 00:31:06,036 Which is exactly what I was told, 615 00:31:06,071 --> 00:31:09,039 "If you wanna brew, this is what you gotta do." 616 00:31:09,074 --> 00:31:14,079 So, uh, it's a pleasant surprise to see that it's right in line with what I was hoping for. 617 00:31:14,113 --> 00:31:17,151 This pump spins this direction and starts on this side. 618 00:31:17,185 --> 00:31:19,878 That's straight-up science. That makes total sense. 619 00:31:19,912 --> 00:31:22,742 So you can look at any pump and tell what way it's supposed to... 620 00:31:22,777 --> 00:31:24,054 That's super awesome. 621 00:31:42,141 --> 00:31:43,625 Dropped the gaskets. 622 00:31:45,041 --> 00:31:46,732 Oh, yeah, I gave you the tricky one. 623 00:31:46,766 --> 00:31:49,045 So, because this pump is huge, it's really heavy and it's hard to line up. 624 00:31:49,079 --> 00:31:51,910 -So that's how it goes. -I was just watching him, if that's all right. 625 00:31:51,944 --> 00:31:53,773 -No, that's all right. -[BOTH CHUCKLE] 626 00:31:54,982 --> 00:31:57,950 I mean, if anything, I will... 627 00:31:57,985 --> 00:32:00,297 This would jog my memory more than anything else. 628 00:32:00,332 --> 00:32:02,541 I probably won't be able to remember the silly laws 629 00:32:02,575 --> 00:32:04,923 and regulations that I was talking about yesterday, 630 00:32:04,957 --> 00:32:07,166 but I certainly will remember this. 631 00:32:07,201 --> 00:32:08,650 [FUNKY MUSIC PLAYING] 632 00:32:16,003 --> 00:32:18,108 I knew I wanted to have my own business, 633 00:32:18,143 --> 00:32:20,179 but I didn't know what I wanted it to be. 634 00:32:20,214 --> 00:32:22,250 And that's when I discovered beer. 635 00:32:22,285 --> 00:32:24,804 It was everything that I was looking for. 636 00:32:24,839 --> 00:32:26,634 When I graduated college, 637 00:32:26,668 --> 00:32:31,880 I immediately got a job at the local homebrew shop 638 00:32:31,915 --> 00:32:34,331 because I just wanted to make beer. 639 00:32:34,366 --> 00:32:37,541 And it was, you know, I made $5 an hour. 640 00:32:37,576 --> 00:32:40,889 Once I could afford a car, that's it, I moved to Vermont. 641 00:32:40,924 --> 00:32:42,753 I wanted to work for Greg Noonan, 642 00:32:42,788 --> 00:32:45,653 who owned the Vermont Pub and Brewery up in Burlington. 643 00:32:45,687 --> 00:32:50,209 He was a very well-known pioneer in the craft beer industry. 644 00:32:50,244 --> 00:32:51,797 I introduced myself to him and said, 645 00:32:51,831 --> 00:32:54,869 "Everything I own is in that car. I wanna work for you. 646 00:32:54,903 --> 00:32:57,837 I want you to teach me how to make beer, and I'll do whatever job you give me 647 00:32:57,872 --> 00:32:59,632 if I can do that." 648 00:32:59,667 --> 00:33:02,946 So he made me a waiter, and I waited tables for a year, and worked for free 649 00:33:02,981 --> 00:33:04,672 on my days off in the brewery 650 00:33:04,706 --> 00:33:07,330 until he made me the head brewer at the Vermont Pub and Brewery. 651 00:33:07,364 --> 00:33:09,746 I was 24. That's where Jen and I met. 652 00:33:09,780 --> 00:33:13,198 She was into beer, she was into the restaurant business. 653 00:33:13,232 --> 00:33:15,165 She was very driven as well, 654 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,305 and we were just a perfect match. 655 00:33:17,340 --> 00:33:20,757 We packed up the car and we just drove to Jackson. 656 00:33:20,791 --> 00:33:25,417 There was a local brewery that was looking for a brewer, and I got that job. 657 00:33:25,451 --> 00:33:28,696 They were called Otto Brothers Brewing in Wilson, Wyoming. 658 00:33:28,730 --> 00:33:31,664 So I redesigned all of their beers, 659 00:33:31,699 --> 00:33:33,632 created these recipes, 660 00:33:33,666 --> 00:33:35,772 set up the brewery, got it all up and running. 661 00:33:35,806 --> 00:33:38,913 Jen was also working for them setting up a restaurant. 662 00:33:38,947 --> 00:33:40,259 So we were going to school. 663 00:33:40,294 --> 00:33:43,124 We're getting paid to do what we wanted to do someday, 664 00:33:43,159 --> 00:33:44,608 so it was an amazing experience. 665 00:33:44,643 --> 00:33:48,854 But, so we quickly realized that we gotta get out of here, 666 00:33:48,888 --> 00:33:51,995 because you're either here for a couple of years or you're here. 667 00:33:52,030 --> 00:33:53,514 And, so that was it. 668 00:33:53,548 --> 00:33:55,378 We decided we're going back to Vermont. 669 00:33:55,412 --> 00:33:58,588 Constantly, if we went out, we were looking at restaurants. 670 00:33:58,622 --> 00:34:00,210 We're thinking about what they did, 671 00:34:00,245 --> 00:34:02,109 what they did right, what they did wrong, 672 00:34:02,143 --> 00:34:07,769 all the while writing our plan, refining our plan, saving money, more than anything, 673 00:34:07,804 --> 00:34:11,532 until we found the exact, perfect place for our pub, 674 00:34:11,566 --> 00:34:13,016 and then we just went for it. 675 00:34:13,051 --> 00:34:17,331 And when we opened that pub, we had 50 bucks in our account. 676 00:34:17,365 --> 00:34:19,333 We were broker than broke. 677 00:34:19,367 --> 00:34:21,887 And if we weren't busy, that was it, we were done. 678 00:34:35,314 --> 00:34:37,420 I grew up in Western Massachusetts, 679 00:34:37,454 --> 00:34:39,318 a little town called Greenfield, Massachusetts. 680 00:34:39,353 --> 00:34:43,150 I went to high school that was a boarding school called Northfield Mount Hermon. 681 00:34:43,184 --> 00:34:44,392 I grew up down the road from it. 682 00:34:44,427 --> 00:34:45,842 So after Northfield Mount Hermon, 683 00:34:45,876 --> 00:34:48,534 I went to Muhlenberg College down at Pennsylvania, 684 00:34:48,569 --> 00:34:50,018 a little division-three school. 685 00:34:50,053 --> 00:34:52,159 And the day after I graduate, I moved to New York City, 686 00:34:52,193 --> 00:34:55,403 and then that coincided in the moment that I started homebrewing. 687 00:34:55,438 --> 00:34:58,303 We were running a house in 26th and 7th. 688 00:34:58,337 --> 00:35:01,133 My roommates were a bunch of actors at the time, 689 00:35:01,168 --> 00:35:06,069 and I was in their apartment that night when I first put my homebrew on the coffee table. 690 00:35:06,104 --> 00:35:08,796 It was a pale ale, and on my way home from the homebrew store, 691 00:35:08,830 --> 00:35:11,419 there were some kind of rotting cherries at a bodega. 692 00:35:11,454 --> 00:35:13,249 I was like, "Fuck, I'll buy those, add them, too." 693 00:35:13,283 --> 00:35:16,390 Squished them into the beer, three weeks later, I premiered it. 694 00:35:16,424 --> 00:35:18,219 It tasted really, really good. 695 00:35:18,254 --> 00:35:20,118 I stood up on my coffee table and said, 696 00:35:20,152 --> 00:35:21,429 "This is what I'm gonna do with my life." 697 00:35:21,464 --> 00:35:23,500 But my next two batches sucked. 698 00:35:23,535 --> 00:35:26,296 Then I would work at night, wake up hungover the next day, 699 00:35:26,331 --> 00:35:28,574 walk to the New York City Library, 700 00:35:28,609 --> 00:35:30,024 and while doing that research 701 00:35:30,058 --> 00:35:33,027 is when I came across the term"Reinheitsgebot," 702 00:35:33,061 --> 00:35:37,169 which is the Bavarian beer purity act of 1516, 703 00:35:37,204 --> 00:35:40,448 mandated that beer can only be made with water, hops and barley. 704 00:35:40,483 --> 00:35:43,348 And that's when I said, "Okay, that's what I want 705 00:35:43,382 --> 00:35:46,696 Dogfish to stand for and against." 706 00:35:46,730 --> 00:35:50,251 Initially, it was my folks put in, I think, 25 grand. 707 00:35:50,286 --> 00:35:54,876 My orthodontist put in, I think, 35 or 50. 708 00:35:54,911 --> 00:35:58,501 And then, a guy built a stone wall for us, Andrew. 709 00:35:58,535 --> 00:36:00,261 uh, put in, I think, 50. 710 00:36:00,296 --> 00:36:02,090 It was successful from the get-go. 711 00:36:02,125 --> 00:36:05,715 '95 we opened, we were in the black within one year. 712 00:36:05,749 --> 00:36:08,649 And then, so, '96 or '97, two years into it, 713 00:36:08,683 --> 00:36:11,134 we opened a separate production facility 714 00:36:11,169 --> 00:36:14,448 maybe four miles away form the beach where land was a lot cheaper, 715 00:36:14,482 --> 00:36:15,725 so that it could grow. 716 00:36:15,759 --> 00:36:18,106 The moment we opened our production brewery 717 00:36:18,141 --> 00:36:22,421 coincided with that first shakeout era of craft beer. 718 00:36:22,456 --> 00:36:24,872 All right, time to start the brew day. 719 00:36:27,737 --> 00:36:28,841 [SIGHS] 720 00:36:34,537 --> 00:36:37,333 The whole room, you're gonna get a sweet barley smell 721 00:36:37,367 --> 00:36:39,231 throughout the entire mashing process. 722 00:36:39,266 --> 00:36:44,063 While I'm doing that, I'm gonna start setting up my hops. 723 00:36:44,098 --> 00:36:48,033 There's something oddly satisfying about putting your thermometer 724 00:36:48,067 --> 00:36:49,621 through each portion of the work, 725 00:36:49,655 --> 00:36:55,454 and every single reading coming out at 152.1, .2. 726 00:36:55,489 --> 00:36:58,561 [EXHALES] The nerd in me has never been so satisfied. 727 00:37:03,704 --> 00:37:06,500 I love the creative process, I love working with my hands. 728 00:37:06,534 --> 00:37:09,227 Classically, there's just four ingredients, 729 00:37:09,261 --> 00:37:11,781 water, malted barley, hops and yeast, 730 00:37:11,815 --> 00:37:14,404 that you can combine in endless combinations 731 00:37:14,439 --> 00:37:17,269 to produce really an infinite number of flavors. 732 00:37:17,304 --> 00:37:20,272 Beer is, the idea comes first, 733 00:37:20,307 --> 00:37:21,963 and it's in your head, 734 00:37:21,998 --> 00:37:27,279 and then, you create out of the things that you gather from elsewhere. 735 00:37:27,314 --> 00:37:29,281 So brewing is much more like music. 736 00:37:29,316 --> 00:37:33,941 And in that, I always like to say that it is much more human. 737 00:37:33,975 --> 00:37:38,601 KIMMICH: I love the smell, the process of making it and creating it, 738 00:37:38,635 --> 00:37:40,430 and the artistic freedom. 739 00:37:40,465 --> 00:37:41,914 SAM: Beer is liquid food. 740 00:37:41,949 --> 00:37:46,367 There's no reason you can't be as limitless and dynamic 741 00:37:46,402 --> 00:37:49,197 with your recipe and choices on a beer recipe, 742 00:37:49,232 --> 00:37:52,442 as you would for an entree on a plate. 743 00:37:52,477 --> 00:37:55,652 RAY: Well, any artist, you know, you need to play with your materials. 744 00:37:55,687 --> 00:37:59,484 You need to do things that don't have as their focus 745 00:37:59,518 --> 00:38:02,694 a polished, fine, finished product, 746 00:38:02,728 --> 00:38:05,006 but more something you're kinda messing around with 747 00:38:05,041 --> 00:38:06,249 to see how it will turn out. 748 00:38:06,284 --> 00:38:07,871 Every time you do this, 749 00:38:07,906 --> 00:38:10,115 you learn something a little bit different, a little better. 750 00:38:13,118 --> 00:38:14,947 Putting ingredients together 751 00:38:14,982 --> 00:38:17,571 and just sort of transform into something, 752 00:38:17,605 --> 00:38:21,022 there's just sort of a magical thing to it. 753 00:38:31,999 --> 00:38:35,554 The whole goal here is that, a huge part of the Cicerone exam, 754 00:38:35,589 --> 00:38:37,522 or the Master Cicerone exam, in particular, 755 00:38:37,556 --> 00:38:39,903 is about describing flavor. 756 00:38:39,938 --> 00:38:41,836 This gives you a chance to describe flavors 757 00:38:41,871 --> 00:38:43,804 in a setting that's a little bit abnormal, 758 00:38:43,838 --> 00:38:45,046 a little bit outside of beer. 759 00:38:49,465 --> 00:38:52,778 [CHUCKLING] We're gonna have some fun with some of these BeanBoozled jelly beans. 760 00:38:52,813 --> 00:38:55,471 Monday is either toothpaste or berry blue. 761 00:38:55,505 --> 00:38:59,371 Tuesday is going to be either barf or peach. 762 00:38:59,406 --> 00:39:02,201 If you can't have a little fun with this stuff, then what are you doing it for? 763 00:39:06,551 --> 00:39:08,449 A huge part of the exams coming up 764 00:39:08,484 --> 00:39:12,833 is gonna be just being able to understand or diagnose the flavor of anything, 765 00:39:12,867 --> 00:39:13,834 whatever it is. 766 00:39:13,868 --> 00:39:17,009 So, um, [CHUCKLING] what we're gonna do 767 00:39:17,044 --> 00:39:20,772 is actually have you guys taste some jelly beans, all right? 768 00:39:20,806 --> 00:39:23,395 Try to figure out what flavor of jelly bean you're dealing with, 769 00:39:23,430 --> 00:39:26,640 um, and at the end, we'll kind talk about what jelly beans are which 770 00:39:26,674 --> 00:39:27,779 and go from there. 771 00:39:55,082 --> 00:39:55,979 I... 772 00:39:58,050 --> 00:39:59,707 -Oh. -[JASON LAUGHING] 773 00:40:03,401 --> 00:40:04,816 Oh, it's defining-- 774 00:40:04,850 --> 00:40:06,887 Hey, it's describing flavor, man. 775 00:40:08,785 --> 00:40:10,097 I don't know, it's gross. 776 00:40:18,485 --> 00:40:20,383 It tastes like garbage. 777 00:40:20,418 --> 00:40:24,318 -Garbage, sulfur... God. -[JASON CHUCKLING] 778 00:40:29,910 --> 00:40:31,152 JASON: Ready? 779 00:40:31,187 --> 00:40:32,878 All right. Here we go. 780 00:40:32,913 --> 00:40:34,501 So let's start with Sunday. 781 00:40:34,535 --> 00:40:36,054 -Yeah, yeah. -What'd you get for that? 782 00:40:36,088 --> 00:40:40,058 I said pear, perfumy floral palm fruit. 783 00:40:40,092 --> 00:40:42,025 Okay. Okay, Thursday. 784 00:40:42,060 --> 00:40:43,786 I said burnt popcorn, 785 00:40:43,820 --> 00:40:47,617 toasted sesame, sesame oil, toasted peanut. 786 00:40:47,652 --> 00:40:51,379 WOMAN: Mine was like chocolate with milky... It was kinda creamy. 787 00:40:51,414 --> 00:40:53,416 So you got chocolate pudding. 788 00:40:53,451 --> 00:40:56,177 [LAUGHS] That's what it was like. 789 00:40:56,212 --> 00:40:58,421 [LAUGHING] You got one. 790 00:40:58,456 --> 00:40:59,940 BRIAN: You're a real asshole. 791 00:40:59,974 --> 00:41:01,389 [LAUGHING] 792 00:41:01,424 --> 00:41:03,012 It was canned dog food. 793 00:41:03,046 --> 00:41:05,221 [WOMAN LAUGHING] 794 00:41:07,016 --> 00:41:10,295 Okay, and then, finally, Saturday. 795 00:41:10,329 --> 00:41:16,025 Um, I said bright tropical fruit, coconut, pineapple, pina colada, suntan lotion. 796 00:41:16,059 --> 00:41:16,991 [BOTH LAUGHING] 797 00:41:17,026 --> 00:41:18,648 -Yeah, that's pineapple. -Cool. 798 00:41:19,580 --> 00:41:21,479 I swear I thought I had coconut. 799 00:41:21,513 --> 00:41:22,549 I think that's a... 800 00:41:22,583 --> 00:41:23,895 I think it was the suntan lotion. 801 00:41:23,929 --> 00:41:26,173 Yeah, there's a pina colada jelly bean, too, I think. 802 00:41:26,207 --> 00:41:27,485 But yeah, this was... 803 00:41:27,519 --> 00:41:29,763 Yeah, it was like crushed pineapple or something like that. 804 00:41:36,252 --> 00:41:40,152 DREW: Brewdies are the local south Brooklyn homebrew club 805 00:41:40,187 --> 00:41:42,638 that we meet at a local bar around here. 806 00:41:42,672 --> 00:41:44,467 So the beer I'm bringing with me 807 00:41:44,502 --> 00:41:47,815 is gonna be cucumber mint pilsner. 808 00:41:49,161 --> 00:41:52,268 Is this from the barrel over at Greenpoint? 809 00:41:53,303 --> 00:41:54,270 MAN: Yes. 810 00:41:54,304 --> 00:41:55,720 Ah, this is the one that you guys pulled up? 811 00:41:55,754 --> 00:41:57,722 Oh, cool. I'm excited to try that. 812 00:41:57,756 --> 00:41:59,447 -But then, nobody here put in... -No? 813 00:41:59,482 --> 00:42:02,485 -Well, I did, but I competed... -MAN 2: You're fine. 814 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,763 The worst error. The worst. 815 00:42:04,798 --> 00:42:07,490 I put in, like, four gallons instead of five. 816 00:42:07,525 --> 00:42:09,250 [INDISTINCT CHATTER] 817 00:42:10,493 --> 00:42:12,875 I had nightmares for months afterwards. 818 00:42:12,909 --> 00:42:14,324 MAN 3: You want me to try your beers? 819 00:42:14,359 --> 00:42:17,742 Yeah, I guess so. Yeah. I think we're all ready. 820 00:42:19,882 --> 00:42:21,366 [INDISTINCT CHATTER] 821 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,402 DREW: Yeah, you don't want too much, you know. 822 00:42:24,611 --> 00:42:26,923 Um, what's the base mint? 823 00:42:27,648 --> 00:42:28,925 Um, it's a pilsner. 824 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:30,271 So that's the biggest problem, 825 00:42:30,306 --> 00:42:34,275 is I can't hide anything behind a pilsner, you know? 826 00:42:34,310 --> 00:42:38,141 I think some dry mint or something like... 827 00:42:38,176 --> 00:42:39,902 -Oh, that's interesting. -Something like that, 828 00:42:39,936 --> 00:42:43,353 like, you'll still get a ton of mint character without a lot of the green mint. 829 00:42:43,388 --> 00:42:45,528 Yeah, because it's been dried out. Ah, I wonder. 830 00:42:45,563 --> 00:42:46,840 It's kind of overwhelming. 831 00:42:46,874 --> 00:42:49,877 -Yeah, it's just too much. -So, if you scale better... 832 00:42:49,912 --> 00:42:51,638 I'm gonna have to, and this is the thing, 833 00:42:51,672 --> 00:42:53,640 I wanted to add all these all in at once, 834 00:42:53,674 --> 00:42:54,744 but I think you're right. 835 00:42:54,779 --> 00:42:56,159 I'm gonna have to just brew five gallons 836 00:42:56,194 --> 00:42:58,058 and do five one-gallon batches of it 837 00:42:58,092 --> 00:43:00,750 and just kind of figure out what the heck's going on. 838 00:43:00,785 --> 00:43:02,890 All right, I gotta wake up real early tomorrow. 839 00:43:02,925 --> 00:43:04,029 Start doing some homework. 840 00:43:04,064 --> 00:43:06,204 -Good seeing you. -Cheers, Brice. 841 00:43:06,238 --> 00:43:08,206 -Appreciate it. -MAN: That's your name? 842 00:43:08,240 --> 00:43:09,863 [LAUGHING] 843 00:43:11,347 --> 00:43:14,764 Yeah, cheers. Thank you, guys. Much appreciated. 844 00:43:16,248 --> 00:43:20,356 The problem is the cucumber just came in so incredibly strong. 845 00:43:20,390 --> 00:43:23,083 What a lot of people don't realize is that brewing lagers, 846 00:43:23,117 --> 00:43:26,293 actually is significantly more difficult than brewing ales 847 00:43:26,327 --> 00:43:28,744 and also takes significantly more time. 848 00:43:31,643 --> 00:43:34,094 Every good brewer loves a great pilsner. 849 00:43:37,994 --> 00:43:40,307 VACLAV: Yeah, in the place, 850 00:43:40,341 --> 00:43:43,828 when was born this beer, in this year, 1842, 851 00:43:43,862 --> 00:43:47,694 and it was about 260 families 852 00:43:47,728 --> 00:43:49,350 who founded this brewery. 853 00:43:49,385 --> 00:43:55,011 And they invited from Germany, uh, a young brewmaster, Josef Groll. 854 00:43:55,046 --> 00:43:59,015 And Josef Groll combined these three ingredients together 855 00:43:59,050 --> 00:44:01,777 and it led to this nice golden color 856 00:44:01,811 --> 00:44:04,607 and a little bit caramel aroma of Pilsner Urquell. 857 00:44:04,642 --> 00:44:09,474 And Josef Groll opened the barrel and showed the result, 858 00:44:09,508 --> 00:44:13,098 and the beer was clear gold with nice head. 859 00:44:13,133 --> 00:44:14,306 After first sip, 860 00:44:14,341 --> 00:44:18,621 they recognized that this is gift from God. 861 00:44:18,656 --> 00:44:24,385 Pilsner was like the killer app [LAUGHS] of its time. 862 00:44:24,420 --> 00:44:28,735 Uh, it, you know, raced across, you know, Europe 863 00:44:28,769 --> 00:44:30,288 uh, like wildfire. 864 00:44:30,322 --> 00:44:34,982 When people saw for the first time a beer that was clear, 865 00:44:35,017 --> 00:44:38,814 uh, and golden, rather than dark and murky, 866 00:44:38,848 --> 00:44:40,608 people lost their minds. 867 00:44:40,643 --> 00:44:43,715 They were like, "We've never seen anything that beautiful 868 00:44:43,750 --> 00:44:45,027 in our entire lives." 869 00:44:45,061 --> 00:44:46,718 And the thing was over. 870 00:44:46,753 --> 00:44:48,064 Right then and there. 871 00:44:48,099 --> 00:44:50,377 It's like, "That's the one we want." 872 00:44:50,411 --> 00:44:51,550 It looks like gold. 873 00:44:51,585 --> 00:44:53,380 Pilsner's an interesting category 874 00:44:53,414 --> 00:44:56,038 'cause we've seen a lot of activity in that in the craft sector for the last year. 875 00:44:56,072 --> 00:44:58,005 Uh, so it seems to be having a bit of a resurgence. 876 00:44:58,040 --> 00:44:59,973 It seems like pilsner's having its time, 877 00:45:00,007 --> 00:45:01,733 um, which is ironic 878 00:45:01,768 --> 00:45:04,322 because for so many craft brewers, going back to that first and second wave, 879 00:45:04,356 --> 00:45:07,118 lagers and pilsners were the opposite of craft beer. 880 00:45:07,152 --> 00:45:10,397 Craft brewers who needed to make beers faster and cheaper, 881 00:45:10,431 --> 00:45:13,124 but also wanted more flavor and experimentation started making ales. 882 00:45:13,158 --> 00:45:14,642 I think pilsner was underrepresented 883 00:45:14,677 --> 00:45:18,060 in the formation of craft beer for a couple of reasons. 884 00:45:18,094 --> 00:45:20,131 Um, number one, the equipment cost 885 00:45:20,165 --> 00:45:23,237 and the attention to process probably was lacking 886 00:45:23,272 --> 00:45:26,724 in some people that were looking to build a rudimentary brewery 887 00:45:26,758 --> 00:45:28,380 and get high flavor. 888 00:45:28,415 --> 00:45:31,590 You hear a lot of, you know, "I only drink craft, I don't drink crap." 889 00:45:31,625 --> 00:45:36,250 And they're trying to imply that those mass-produced light lagers 890 00:45:36,285 --> 00:45:39,322 or American adjunct lagers is inferior. 891 00:45:39,357 --> 00:45:41,152 And nothing could be further from the truth. 892 00:45:41,186 --> 00:45:43,292 Those are technically perfect beers. 893 00:45:43,326 --> 00:45:45,915 Those are beers where tens of millions of barrels 894 00:45:45,950 --> 00:45:47,848 of the same beer is brewed every year 895 00:45:47,883 --> 00:45:49,850 at multiple locations around the country, 896 00:45:49,885 --> 00:45:51,990 and they all taste exactly the same. 897 00:45:52,025 --> 00:45:53,647 That is a huge scientific achievement. 898 00:45:53,681 --> 00:45:56,684 We now have these factors that make it possible to make lager. 899 00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,342 Uh, and so people are looking at lager and pilsner as like, 900 00:45:59,377 --> 00:46:01,103 "Well, maybe it's not such a political thing. 901 00:46:01,137 --> 00:46:04,520 Maybe it was a matter of constraints [LAUGHS] that I couldn't make those. 902 00:46:04,554 --> 00:46:07,212 Maybe I'm actually interested in those beers now that I can make them." 903 00:46:09,352 --> 00:46:10,871 DREW: We're here in the lower east side 904 00:46:10,906 --> 00:46:13,943 to kinda cut through and explore some of the bars here. 905 00:46:15,531 --> 00:46:16,877 DREW: Kids. 906 00:46:16,912 --> 00:46:19,569 Oh, hey there, Jeremy. It's good seeing you. How are you guys? 907 00:46:19,604 --> 00:46:20,639 Good to see you around here. 908 00:46:21,261 --> 00:46:22,641 DREW: Interboro. 909 00:46:22,676 --> 00:46:24,989 Is that the one that the gals had? 910 00:46:25,023 --> 00:46:26,645 MAN: Where is Interboro? 911 00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:28,061 It's out in Bushwick. 912 00:46:28,095 --> 00:46:30,270 I mean, the scene's running. 913 00:46:30,304 --> 00:46:32,375 It's going nuts, obviously, here in New York. 914 00:46:32,410 --> 00:46:34,584 We've got so many different breweries coming out. 915 00:46:35,033 --> 00:46:37,380 Gentlemen, lady. 916 00:46:37,415 --> 00:46:40,176 3:45. I'm keeping any of the conductors on schedule. 917 00:46:40,211 --> 00:46:42,282 We're going 3:45 to Randolph Beer. 918 00:46:43,973 --> 00:46:45,423 Oh, why, thank you, sir. 919 00:46:46,596 --> 00:46:50,946 Right there is Drew with that Leonardo himself, 920 00:46:50,980 --> 00:46:52,982 with cool sunglasses, 921 00:46:53,672 --> 00:46:55,502 with a most... 922 00:46:55,536 --> 00:46:58,608 Yup, there it is. Yup, see that? You know that shot. 923 00:46:58,643 --> 00:47:00,334 Drew is... 924 00:47:00,369 --> 00:47:05,892 He literally symbolizes people doing what they wanna do. 925 00:47:05,926 --> 00:47:08,687 People following their dreams. 926 00:47:08,722 --> 00:47:11,898 People finding a passion, 927 00:47:11,932 --> 00:47:14,624 developing that passion, honing in that passion, 928 00:47:14,659 --> 00:47:17,075 and turning it into a career. 929 00:47:17,110 --> 00:47:20,078 And if we could all do that, then we'd all be very lucky. 930 00:47:20,113 --> 00:47:22,184 So it's pretty cool what he's doing. 931 00:47:24,531 --> 00:47:25,877 DREW'S FRIEND: I mean, I used to live with Drew. 932 00:47:25,912 --> 00:47:27,189 Drew's one of the best friends from college, 933 00:47:27,223 --> 00:47:29,363 and spent a lot of time living together 934 00:47:29,398 --> 00:47:33,160 when he was working at these corporate law firms. 935 00:47:33,195 --> 00:47:34,713 He's going into this because it's a passion, 936 00:47:34,748 --> 00:47:36,715 and wherever it takes him, that's where he goes. 937 00:47:36,750 --> 00:47:39,580 And in a very admirable way, he makes decisions. 938 00:47:39,615 --> 00:47:41,789 You know, he's not scared of making a decision. 939 00:47:41,824 --> 00:47:43,032 We're also a fan of craft beer. 940 00:47:43,067 --> 00:47:45,276 And, it's a pretty competitive space, you know? 941 00:47:45,310 --> 00:47:48,589 It's not what it was 15 years ago. 942 00:47:48,624 --> 00:47:50,764 And so, to the question 943 00:47:50,798 --> 00:47:54,043 of what kind of opportunity there is out there... 944 00:47:54,078 --> 00:47:55,217 I think he's gonna kill it. 945 00:47:55,251 --> 00:47:57,150 I think he's a beer nerd. 946 00:47:57,184 --> 00:47:59,221 He comes in here and he gets a raging boner 947 00:47:59,255 --> 00:48:00,912 because he sees the beer list. 948 00:48:00,947 --> 00:48:03,018 He's... He's gonna do a good job. 949 00:48:03,052 --> 00:48:04,743 I think it's his passion. 950 00:48:04,778 --> 00:48:06,090 Definitely not law. 951 00:48:06,953 --> 00:48:09,334 This is a barrel-fermented saison. 952 00:48:10,404 --> 00:48:11,716 Well, what about this guy, huh? 953 00:48:11,750 --> 00:48:13,269 MAN: Nerd alert. Nerd alert. 954 00:48:13,304 --> 00:48:15,754 Yeah, that's getting nerdy. That's getting nerdy. 955 00:48:22,934 --> 00:48:25,281 [MACHINE BEEPING] 956 00:48:28,319 --> 00:48:30,148 I wanna somehow create a meme where I'm going, 957 00:48:30,183 --> 00:48:32,702 "Om-nom-nom-nom." 958 00:48:32,737 --> 00:48:35,705 Just to get the bottom of it. Like this, like with your mouth open. 959 00:48:36,983 --> 00:48:39,123 It smells... It smells like you're in an IPA. 960 00:48:39,157 --> 00:48:40,538 Like, I mean, like, really in one. 961 00:48:40,572 --> 00:48:41,815 Like swimming in beer. 962 00:48:41,849 --> 00:48:43,610 -God. -So creepy. 963 00:48:48,684 --> 00:48:49,823 It's crazy. 964 00:48:52,757 --> 00:48:56,209 TOUR GUIDE: Okay, now, what we normally do... 965 00:48:57,451 --> 00:49:00,144 That hammer mill takes those hot cones 966 00:49:00,178 --> 00:49:03,285 and grinds them up. Go and grab some. 967 00:49:03,319 --> 00:49:05,390 What I want you to see, it's relatively coarse. 968 00:49:07,358 --> 00:49:09,567 It's a misnomer when people say we grind it to a fine powder, 969 00:49:09,601 --> 00:49:11,396 but we don't. A lot of people do. 970 00:49:11,431 --> 00:49:12,880 -You know Seco? -Uh-huh. 971 00:49:12,915 --> 00:49:15,090 -TOUR GUIDE: It's about 3,200. -Wow. 972 00:49:16,436 --> 00:49:20,405 So, again, these two rows, go ahead and grab a cone. 973 00:49:27,930 --> 00:49:30,001 BRIAN: It is a very hardy one. 974 00:49:30,036 --> 00:49:33,108 It's a very hardy one as far as the cone structure. Yeah. 975 00:49:35,179 --> 00:49:37,319 Compared to the sterlings in there, much more delicate. 976 00:49:37,353 --> 00:49:38,389 Yeah. 977 00:49:40,149 --> 00:49:42,496 [INDISTINCT CHATTER] 978 00:49:45,051 --> 00:49:46,742 Look at you. 979 00:49:48,606 --> 00:49:51,574 -Ooh lar-lar. -Look at that. So artistic. 980 00:49:54,094 --> 00:49:57,925 All right, so how we doing so far, guys? How's this trip? Decent? 981 00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,480 For those people on the teams, people that know me well, 982 00:50:00,514 --> 00:50:01,999 this stuff's not wasted on me. 983 00:50:02,033 --> 00:50:03,690 Like, I live this stuff. 984 00:50:03,724 --> 00:50:06,037 Going out on those hop fields, it's a different experience. 985 00:50:06,072 --> 00:50:08,626 You can read about it, you can learn about it in beer immersion, 986 00:50:08,660 --> 00:50:10,421 you can do it in all these different ways, 987 00:50:10,455 --> 00:50:12,043 but until you get to see, touch, feel, right, 988 00:50:12,078 --> 00:50:14,735 this is the way that adults really kinda anchor those memories. 989 00:50:14,770 --> 00:50:17,980 I was thinking about, you know, having young kids now, 990 00:50:18,015 --> 00:50:21,949 and going through, like, experiences you've had with them, 991 00:50:21,984 --> 00:50:23,744 like, you know, holidays at Christmas, 992 00:50:23,779 --> 00:50:25,401 you know, it's exciting as a little kid. 993 00:50:25,436 --> 00:50:27,162 And then you get to experience with your kids, and you're like, 994 00:50:27,196 --> 00:50:28,646 "Oh, my God, this is a new entire thing." 995 00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:31,959 And so this week, I am trying to make a conscious effort 996 00:50:31,994 --> 00:50:34,065 to experience it through other people's eyes a little bit. 997 00:50:34,100 --> 00:50:37,896 Hopefully, being able to enhance that, at least in some small ways, so... 998 00:50:50,668 --> 00:50:53,671 -All right, German... -German style lager... 999 00:50:53,705 --> 00:50:55,086 Yeah, give it a taste. 1000 00:50:55,121 --> 00:50:57,882 -Super clean, unfiltered. -Oh, yeah. 1001 00:50:57,916 --> 00:51:00,988 -Oh, wow, it's super clean for unfiltered. -Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1002 00:51:01,023 --> 00:51:04,199 DREW: We're going to New York City Brewers Choice. 1003 00:51:04,233 --> 00:51:07,719 They've got visiting brewers, they've got people bringing food. 1004 00:51:07,754 --> 00:51:10,584 There's just... there's a lot of action going on, 1005 00:51:10,619 --> 00:51:12,724 and I see it kind of as a celebration 1006 00:51:12,759 --> 00:51:16,211 of what's gone on in the past year here in New York City 1007 00:51:16,245 --> 00:51:18,040 in terms of the rising beer scene 1008 00:51:18,075 --> 00:51:19,835 and just how powerful it's gotten, 1009 00:51:19,869 --> 00:51:23,873 but also kind of a celebration of where it's going in the future. 1010 00:51:23,908 --> 00:51:26,738 Don't you have a child at home you should be dealing with? 1011 00:51:26,773 --> 00:51:28,326 What's up, bro? 1012 00:51:28,361 --> 00:51:30,466 -Anywhere, man. Doing well. -Good to see you. 1013 00:51:30,501 --> 00:51:32,054 What do you got? Oh, you have a kolsch. 1014 00:51:32,089 --> 00:51:33,952 Good kolsch. Brewed-style kolsch. 1015 00:51:33,987 --> 00:51:35,299 We also have a giant hop sour. 1016 00:51:35,333 --> 00:51:37,818 You don't get vegetal, you get a little grassy... 1017 00:51:37,853 --> 00:51:40,338 Yeah, that vanilla bean just rounds it out at the end. 1018 00:51:40,373 --> 00:51:42,099 BREWER: I didn't use any extracts over there. 1019 00:51:42,133 --> 00:51:44,515 Nothing, yeah? Wow. 1020 00:51:44,549 --> 00:51:46,827 Are you guys near at New York State Farm? 1021 00:51:46,862 --> 00:51:49,968 We are at New York State Farm. We're opening April 1st. 1022 00:51:50,003 --> 00:51:51,453 It's been up for 36 weeks now. 1023 00:51:51,487 --> 00:51:52,902 I was just gonna say, you're at 36th street? 1024 00:51:52,937 --> 00:51:55,077 I was just doing a talk at a high school over there 1025 00:51:55,112 --> 00:51:56,803 about both brewing and being a lawyer, 1026 00:51:56,837 --> 00:51:58,908 -so go figure. Yeah, man. -What's your name? 1027 00:51:58,943 --> 00:52:00,289 -Drew. -Drew? Merlin. 1028 00:52:00,324 --> 00:52:01,739 I've met these individuals, 1029 00:52:01,773 --> 00:52:03,948 I can collaborate with these individuals. 1030 00:52:03,982 --> 00:52:07,296 I can learn about what these guys have done, 1031 00:52:07,331 --> 00:52:10,472 and I'm gonna turn that into who I am 1032 00:52:10,506 --> 00:52:12,267 and where I go from. 1033 00:52:12,301 --> 00:52:13,923 And that's the beauty of it. 1034 00:52:13,958 --> 00:52:18,480 Every step I take, every brewer I discuss, every beer I sniff 1035 00:52:18,514 --> 00:52:20,620 puts me one step further. 1036 00:52:20,654 --> 00:52:23,001 This is why I'm not sitting in the office. 1037 00:52:23,036 --> 00:52:26,488 The reason why I'm gonna be sitting in the office in a couple hours 1038 00:52:26,522 --> 00:52:29,180 is so that I can be here again. 1039 00:52:29,215 --> 00:52:31,527 And that's really what it's all about. 1040 00:52:32,079 --> 00:52:33,357 This is it. 1041 00:52:34,151 --> 00:52:35,324 What's up, man? 1042 00:52:36,774 --> 00:52:38,293 This is it. Ha! 1043 00:52:38,914 --> 00:52:40,467 [FUNKY MUSIC PLAYING] 1044 00:52:49,131 --> 00:52:50,615 JIM: Bartenders tasted it, 1045 00:52:50,650 --> 00:52:52,997 you know, they didn't really know what to make of it 1046 00:52:53,031 --> 00:52:54,240 because it was so different. 1047 00:52:54,274 --> 00:52:55,758 And they liked it, 1048 00:52:55,793 --> 00:52:58,451 but they weren't sure if it was, like, okay to like it. 1049 00:52:58,485 --> 00:53:03,525 Some of them would just, like, follow, uh, their palate 1050 00:53:03,559 --> 00:53:06,838 and listen to what their palate was telling them. 1051 00:53:06,873 --> 00:53:09,289 And they would, "Hmm." 1052 00:53:09,324 --> 00:53:13,569 Uh, you know, and when I would close the sale, 1053 00:53:13,604 --> 00:53:16,054 was, you know, again they'd taste it, 1054 00:53:16,089 --> 00:53:20,852 and I'd say, "Do you think it's good enough to offer to your customers?" 1055 00:53:22,199 --> 00:53:24,166 And some said yes. 1056 00:53:24,201 --> 00:53:26,133 ROB: I didn't have a lot of overhead. 1057 00:53:26,168 --> 00:53:27,583 I just had me for an employee. 1058 00:53:27,618 --> 00:53:29,275 Didn't have fancy equipment. 1059 00:53:29,309 --> 00:53:32,623 So we just kinda hunkered down and did our thing for ten years. 1060 00:53:32,657 --> 00:53:35,764 We are having our best year ever in the State of Maine 1061 00:53:35,798 --> 00:53:37,938 despite the fact that in the last ten years, 1062 00:53:37,973 --> 00:53:41,321 we've gone from about 25 breweries to nearly 100. 1063 00:53:41,356 --> 00:53:44,082 We have more people coming out to the brewery 1064 00:53:44,117 --> 00:53:45,670 than we've ever had before, 1065 00:53:45,705 --> 00:53:48,639 and more breweries in this industrial park. 1066 00:53:48,673 --> 00:53:52,470 So, despite the fact that there are all these breweries opening up, 1067 00:53:52,505 --> 00:53:55,473 there seems to be enough business to go around. 1068 00:53:55,508 --> 00:53:57,579 GARRETT: Eventually, I became head brewer. 1069 00:53:57,613 --> 00:54:02,480 I became pretty well-known for the beers, you know, that I was making then. 1070 00:54:02,515 --> 00:54:05,103 Uh, I was getting together with David Bruce, 1071 00:54:05,138 --> 00:54:07,589 who started the brewpub movement in the '70s. 1072 00:54:07,623 --> 00:54:12,110 I came to Brooklyn Brewery and brought those guys with me into Brooklyn Brewery. 1073 00:54:12,145 --> 00:54:14,906 I feel that some of the things that Brooklyn Brewery does 1074 00:54:14,941 --> 00:54:18,255 are at that top, you know, of the pyramid. 1075 00:54:18,289 --> 00:54:22,535 For example, we were the brewery that invented collaborations, 1076 00:54:22,569 --> 00:54:25,434 and that is now a standard part 1077 00:54:25,469 --> 00:54:27,264 of the craft-brewing culture. 1078 00:54:27,298 --> 00:54:28,989 I'm really proud of that. 1079 00:54:29,024 --> 00:54:32,924 I get a chance now to hang out with people who have been heroes to me. 1080 00:54:32,959 --> 00:54:35,306 And then somebody else comes along and tells you, 1081 00:54:35,341 --> 00:54:38,965 "Oh, I read your book and that inspired me to get into beer, 1082 00:54:38,999 --> 00:54:42,244 "and now I've been a brewer for five years." 1083 00:54:42,279 --> 00:54:43,970 You wanna burst into tears. 1084 00:54:44,004 --> 00:54:46,697 SAM: Right around '99, late '99, 2000, 1085 00:54:46,731 --> 00:54:49,216 we started bottling 90 Minute IPA. 1086 00:54:49,251 --> 00:54:54,498 'Cause 90 Minute is the first bottle that said the words "Imperial IPA" on it. 1087 00:54:54,532 --> 00:54:57,570 In the same month, we also released Midas Touch, 1088 00:54:57,604 --> 00:54:59,710 which is the first, sort of, ancient ale. 1089 00:54:59,744 --> 00:55:02,575 A modern beer packaged and distributed, 1090 00:55:02,609 --> 00:55:05,232 referencing using molecular evidence, 1091 00:55:05,267 --> 00:55:07,165 a beer that was brewed centuries ago. 1092 00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:10,893 And at that moment, we went from being these freaks in the beer industry, 1093 00:55:10,928 --> 00:55:12,688 You know, "Dogfish, you put raisins in your beer. 1094 00:55:12,723 --> 00:55:14,587 You put coffees. You're disrespectful." 1095 00:55:14,621 --> 00:55:18,798 to, I think, Esquire called 90 Minute the best IPA in America that year. 1096 00:55:18,832 --> 00:55:20,040 People Magazine, 1097 00:55:20,075 --> 00:55:22,491 Today Show did stories onMidas Touch. 1098 00:55:22,526 --> 00:55:24,355 And we've been fortunate for 20 years 1099 00:55:24,390 --> 00:55:30,465 that that innovation and that refusal to discount or homogenize our beer 1100 00:55:30,499 --> 00:55:33,364 really started paying off around '99 to 2000. 1101 00:55:33,399 --> 00:55:34,779 KIMMICH: And we're the new place in town, 1102 00:55:34,814 --> 00:55:36,194 so everybody wanted to try it. 1103 00:55:36,229 --> 00:55:38,369 But if we had sucked, they wouldn't have come back. 1104 00:55:38,404 --> 00:55:40,475 And so we just got busier and busier 1105 00:55:40,509 --> 00:55:42,649 month after month, year after year, 1106 00:55:42,684 --> 00:55:45,687 to the point where we would just be full. 1107 00:55:45,721 --> 00:55:47,758 Twenty minutes after we open, we're full 1108 00:55:47,792 --> 00:55:50,450 until last call and the kitchen closed, 1109 00:55:50,485 --> 00:55:51,831 and then that was it. 1110 00:55:51,865 --> 00:55:53,764 The next day, you do it again. 1111 00:55:53,798 --> 00:55:56,767 And that was our success. Word spread quickly. 1112 00:55:56,801 --> 00:56:00,011 People talked about our beer, they talked about our food, 1113 00:56:00,046 --> 00:56:02,289 about the restaurant, everything about it. 1114 00:56:02,324 --> 00:56:04,430 And it just got crazier and crazier 1115 00:56:04,464 --> 00:56:07,640 until we decided, finally, Jen convinced me, 1116 00:56:07,674 --> 00:56:09,676 "Let's open a production brewery." 1117 00:56:09,711 --> 00:56:14,025 And thank God we did, 'cause the pub got wiped out on a Sunday night 1118 00:56:14,060 --> 00:56:15,717 in tropical storm Irene, 1119 00:56:15,751 --> 00:56:18,823 and Tuesday morning was our first canning run of Heady Topper. 1120 00:56:18,858 --> 00:56:24,519 And at the time, when we started packaging Heady Topper, there... 1121 00:56:24,553 --> 00:56:27,107 A double IPA in a 16-ounce can 1122 00:56:27,142 --> 00:56:30,801 in a four-pack was pretty much non-existent. 1123 00:56:30,835 --> 00:56:35,875 Now, you know, it's kind of expected. 1124 00:56:35,909 --> 00:56:37,566 You know, there's a lot of breweries out there 1125 00:56:37,601 --> 00:56:41,846 putting double IPAs in 16-ounce cans in that four-pack format 1126 00:56:41,881 --> 00:56:45,471 and to us, it's the perfect way to do it. 1127 00:56:45,505 --> 00:56:48,094 You know, it's your own 16-ounce keg. 1128 00:56:48,681 --> 00:56:50,786 Perfect, every time. 1129 00:56:50,821 --> 00:56:54,756 You know, a big motivator's 'cause Jen and I wanted to create our own jobs. 1130 00:56:54,790 --> 00:56:56,654 we wanted to be our own bosses. 1131 00:56:56,689 --> 00:56:59,726 I was done with crappy bosses. 1132 00:56:59,761 --> 00:57:02,315 If it was gonna be anything, it would be up to us, 1133 00:57:02,349 --> 00:57:06,906 and we would create the atmosphere that we would wanna work in. 1134 00:57:06,940 --> 00:57:10,737 And we've carried that throughout every one of our projects. 1135 00:57:13,602 --> 00:57:16,916 So I've made the mistake in the past of, uh... 1136 00:57:18,504 --> 00:57:22,715 of studying, like, on the couch or whatever. 1137 00:57:22,749 --> 00:57:24,544 That last owners of this house have this set up. 1138 00:57:24,579 --> 00:57:27,478 It's like a little kinda office space, 1139 00:57:27,513 --> 00:57:33,311 so I found that if I... just when I'm up here, 1140 00:57:33,346 --> 00:57:34,761 study 100% of the time... 1141 00:57:34,796 --> 00:57:37,005 So these are-- I tried to do color-coded ones, 1142 00:57:37,039 --> 00:57:40,215 like the, you know, obviously pear-colored beers 1143 00:57:40,249 --> 00:57:43,770 versus the yellow. 1144 00:57:43,805 --> 00:57:46,497 The amber-ish colored beers are in red. 1145 00:57:46,532 --> 00:57:49,258 If I'm looking for one particular one and I know that it's yellow, 1146 00:57:49,293 --> 00:57:50,674 then I can go, "Okay." You know what I mean? 1147 00:57:50,708 --> 00:57:52,503 I can pick through pretty quick. 1148 00:57:52,538 --> 00:57:55,506 I have, you know, between five and eight, 1149 00:57:55,541 --> 00:57:58,026 um, commercial examples from... 1150 00:57:59,165 --> 00:58:01,236 usually from three different countries. 1151 00:58:01,270 --> 00:58:02,789 Uh, and then, on the back, 1152 00:58:02,824 --> 00:58:04,515 I'll have some comparative stuff 1153 00:58:04,550 --> 00:58:07,863 and maybe some, um, historical stuff. 1154 00:58:07,898 --> 00:58:09,693 And if there's anything that I... 1155 00:58:09,727 --> 00:58:13,731 like as I'm researching the style, find... 1156 00:58:13,766 --> 00:58:17,839 it's something that's new to me that needs to be committed to memory, I'll put on those. 1157 00:58:20,669 --> 00:58:23,154 An ounce of golden. Half an ounce of rum... 1158 00:58:26,123 --> 00:58:30,230 So, right now, I'm pulling out a series upon series of hops, 1159 00:58:30,265 --> 00:58:31,542 different styles of hops here, 1160 00:58:31,577 --> 00:58:34,545 just to find two that I'm interested in, 1161 00:58:34,580 --> 00:58:36,616 if they have it. 1162 00:58:36,651 --> 00:58:39,032 Uh, for the beer style that I'm trying to brew, 1163 00:58:39,067 --> 00:58:42,070 which is gonna be a brown ale brewed with spices. 1164 00:58:42,104 --> 00:58:46,039 A brewmaster is like the chef in a kitchen. 1165 00:58:46,074 --> 00:58:48,801 Everything from the concept of the beer, 1166 00:58:48,835 --> 00:58:50,734 the ingredients, the kitchen. 1167 00:58:50,768 --> 00:58:54,979 In a brewery, there's somebody that is responsible 1168 00:58:55,014 --> 00:58:57,706 for purchasing the ingredients, 1169 00:58:57,741 --> 00:58:59,950 for developing the recipes, 1170 00:58:59,984 --> 00:59:05,611 for maintaining the quality and consistency of the beer 1171 00:59:05,645 --> 00:59:08,993 in adherence to those recipes. 1172 00:59:09,028 --> 00:59:11,271 GARRETT: Everything that goes into it 1173 00:59:11,306 --> 00:59:14,205 from start to finish until it lands in your glass 1174 00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:17,105 and you're happy, that's the brewmaster. 1175 00:59:17,139 --> 00:59:19,521 The way that I often put it is I am the liquid, 1176 00:59:19,556 --> 00:59:20,936 and the liquid is me, 1177 00:59:20,971 --> 00:59:24,043 and there's nothing about it that I don't care about, 1178 00:59:24,077 --> 00:59:26,770 and there's nothing about it that I ought not to know. 1179 00:59:26,804 --> 00:59:29,082 Brewmaster, yeah, this is funny joke 1180 00:59:29,117 --> 00:59:31,360 because you are responsible for everything. 1181 00:59:31,395 --> 00:59:36,607 To check whether quality of malt is okay, whether brew is in good phase, 1182 00:59:36,642 --> 00:59:39,092 whether fermentation run properly, 1183 00:59:39,127 --> 00:59:44,615 whether by maturation the beer has the... this delicious taste. 1184 00:59:44,650 --> 00:59:46,997 Brewing, this is never-ending process, 1185 00:59:47,031 --> 00:59:51,104 twenty-four hours, whole year, each day. 1186 00:59:53,900 --> 00:59:57,041 If someone is willing to call themselves a brewmaster, 1187 00:59:57,076 --> 00:59:58,767 they better come correct and prove it 1188 00:59:58,802 --> 01:00:00,976 by brewing amazing beer. 1189 01:00:01,011 --> 01:00:03,047 And whether it's just a dude in his kitchen 1190 01:00:03,082 --> 01:00:05,532 that says, "I'm the fucking brewmaster of my house," 1191 01:00:05,567 --> 01:00:08,881 if the beer is good, that person deserves that title. 1192 01:00:08,915 --> 01:00:10,848 So I don't want it to be completely knocked out. 1193 01:00:10,883 --> 01:00:12,988 I still want a little bit of solid in there. 1194 01:00:13,679 --> 01:00:15,301 just so that there's... 1195 01:00:15,335 --> 01:00:19,685 it doesn't all blend in and completely douse the beer 1196 01:00:19,719 --> 01:00:21,928 and change the consistency of the beer. 1197 01:00:21,963 --> 01:00:24,517 I wanna have a little bit of "something" something 1198 01:00:24,551 --> 01:00:26,105 that I pull out in the end, too. 1199 01:00:26,139 --> 01:00:28,763 -This is just... -[BLENDER WHIRRING] 1200 01:00:28,797 --> 01:00:30,661 Like MacGyver's sparging. 1201 01:00:30,696 --> 01:00:33,699 This is just kind of been made up as the process is going on. 1202 01:00:33,733 --> 01:00:36,563 This is just learning how to work with it, 1203 01:00:36,598 --> 01:00:39,946 seeing what's gonna work best, and if it doesn't work, 1204 01:00:39,981 --> 01:00:42,984 learning how to figure out a new method to make it work. 1205 01:00:43,018 --> 01:00:46,470 Well, my apologies to all of my fellow Poles out there. 1206 01:00:46,504 --> 01:00:48,023 This is not Polish vodka. 1207 01:00:48,058 --> 01:00:50,267 If I had it, I would've definitely used it. 1208 01:00:50,301 --> 01:00:52,338 Nonetheless, Na Zdorovie! 1209 01:00:52,372 --> 01:00:55,341 Let's kill any micro bacteria we got going on in here 1210 01:00:55,375 --> 01:00:57,792 and make us some nice melon addition. 1211 01:00:59,207 --> 01:01:00,726 All right. 1212 01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:02,589 We got our ounces of vodka in there. 1213 01:01:02,624 --> 01:01:05,489 We're gonna make sure that's gonna be dispersed a little bit. 1214 01:01:05,523 --> 01:01:08,906 We wanna make sure all of our melon gets a little play with the vodka. 1215 01:01:08,941 --> 01:01:12,427 You know, this is basically like Spring Break going on in here right now. 1216 01:01:13,117 --> 01:01:15,913 And when done with Spring Break, 1217 01:01:18,605 --> 01:01:20,677 it's time to enter the frozen period. 1218 01:01:20,711 --> 01:01:24,197 We're gonna leave that guy in there for three days. The freezing process. 1219 01:01:24,232 --> 01:01:25,716 In addition, the vodka we got here 1220 01:01:25,751 --> 01:01:29,064 is gonna help kill any microbes, get any bad bugs out of there 1221 01:01:29,099 --> 01:01:33,034 to make sure that nothing but pure, beautiful melon hits my beer. 1222 01:01:39,696 --> 01:01:42,768 People typically hate coming into places like this with me 1223 01:01:42,802 --> 01:01:45,667 'cause I end up staring at the shelves for, I don't know, 1224 01:01:45,702 --> 01:01:47,427 I mean, a half-hour, hour or past, 1225 01:01:47,462 --> 01:01:50,016 I"m just kind of wandering up and down the isles, looking at stuff. 1226 01:01:53,295 --> 01:01:55,988 A lot of times, I'm doing the descriptive panel for Brian. 1227 01:01:56,022 --> 01:01:58,645 These are the beers I'll grab to kind of push them outside 1228 01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:01,165 and see how good they are at picking up random flavors in beers 1229 01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:03,202 'cause Dogfish Head put just about anything 1230 01:02:03,236 --> 01:02:04,617 you can ever imagine in a beer, 1231 01:02:04,651 --> 01:02:06,446 so they're always kinda fun to include in those things. 1232 01:02:06,481 --> 01:02:09,795 You sit down here and you got stuff from 5 Rabbits in Chicago. 1233 01:02:09,829 --> 01:02:11,451 Um, and then all the way down here, 1234 01:02:11,486 --> 01:02:13,833 you've got stuff from Belgium, right, so duvels, one of the classics, 1235 01:02:13,868 --> 01:02:17,388 and probably one I'll pick up for the tasting stuff with Brian tomorrow, 1236 01:02:17,423 --> 01:02:20,081 'cause it's such a great example for Belgian Strong Golden. 1237 01:02:21,392 --> 01:02:23,947 You can imagine being the average consumer that comes in here 1238 01:02:23,981 --> 01:02:25,638 and you see there's just sea of beers, 1239 01:02:25,672 --> 01:02:28,779 and it's hard to know which ones you're gonna like, 1240 01:02:28,814 --> 01:02:30,263 what the flavors are, anything like that, 1241 01:02:30,298 --> 01:02:32,196 if you're not familiar with beer styles. 1242 01:02:32,231 --> 01:02:35,510 So seeing you're having something that pops off the shelf, 1243 01:02:35,544 --> 01:02:38,202 can really kinda draw the attention in for a lot of these brewers 1244 01:02:38,237 --> 01:02:40,342 and encourage people to try their beer, 1245 01:02:40,377 --> 01:02:42,482 if nothing else, because it's got cool packaging. 1246 01:02:47,418 --> 01:02:50,214 [ACOUSTIC MUSIC PLAYING ON SPEAKERS] 1247 01:03:06,368 --> 01:03:09,820 Every night, 4:00 a.m., I'm awake. 1248 01:03:09,855 --> 01:03:11,926 "What did I forget in that spreadsheet? 1249 01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:14,066 "Wow, what about this cost of this employee? 1250 01:03:14,100 --> 01:03:15,757 "Have I thought about that tax?" 1251 01:03:15,792 --> 01:03:20,417 And there's just so much [CHUCKLES] that goes into planning a business, 1252 01:03:20,451 --> 01:03:23,385 and then, on top of that, to plan a brewery. 1253 01:03:24,870 --> 01:03:28,563 It's mind-numbing and daunting at the same time. 1254 01:03:28,597 --> 01:03:31,428 I don't know, I'm making this all up as I'm doing it. 1255 01:03:31,462 --> 01:03:33,671 This is all projection. 1256 01:03:33,706 --> 01:03:36,847 And being type-A, being risk averse, being a lawyer, 1257 01:03:36,882 --> 01:03:38,987 you don't do that type of stuff. 1258 01:03:39,022 --> 01:03:41,645 And so I'm sitting here, freaking out 1259 01:03:41,679 --> 01:03:44,786 about whether or not anything that I've said in here 1260 01:03:44,821 --> 01:03:46,719 will actually translate to the real world. 1261 01:03:46,753 --> 01:03:51,379 Physically, I can print out this document right now, and I can read through it, 1262 01:03:51,413 --> 01:03:54,554 and the spelling is probably pretty good, and the grammar's okay. 1263 01:03:54,589 --> 01:04:00,388 But do I feel like I'm right or confident in it? 1264 01:04:00,422 --> 01:04:02,562 [SIGHS] That's a freaking tall order. 1265 01:04:07,947 --> 01:04:09,604 Put your headphones on. 1266 01:04:09,638 --> 01:04:12,262 BRIAN: Well, I'm gonna go upstairs. [LAUGHS] 1267 01:04:12,296 --> 01:04:15,437 And if I hear a can crack instead of a bottle open 1268 01:04:15,472 --> 01:04:17,025 or if I hear a cork pop, 1269 01:04:17,060 --> 01:04:19,131 it's gonna give me context clues. 1270 01:04:19,165 --> 01:04:23,376 So, yeah, I get them out. 1271 01:04:26,897 --> 01:04:28,692 Yeah, um... 1272 01:04:28,726 --> 01:04:33,421 He'll send me out or his boss will send me a list of things to buy. 1273 01:04:34,905 --> 01:04:39,461 Um, normally, he doesn't know what I have. 1274 01:04:39,496 --> 01:04:43,258 So it's kind of like just from helping him study, 1275 01:04:43,293 --> 01:04:46,917 I know a lot of the classic examples of the styles. 1276 01:04:46,952 --> 01:04:48,919 He missed it by so close last time. 1277 01:04:48,954 --> 01:04:50,748 I feel like... 1278 01:04:50,783 --> 01:04:52,992 I don't know, I feel like he's gonna nail it this time. 1279 01:04:58,308 --> 01:04:59,274 All right. 1280 01:05:28,441 --> 01:05:30,478 BRIAN: All right. You're gonna give me the bad news? 1281 01:05:30,512 --> 01:05:32,756 -WIFE: Are you ready? Go ahead. -BRIAN: Yeah. 1282 01:05:32,790 --> 01:05:35,172 Oh, you're gonna put me on the spot, make me guess first? 1283 01:05:36,104 --> 01:05:37,588 Let's see you work. 1284 01:05:37,623 --> 01:05:39,314 Um, so the first one, 1285 01:05:40,522 --> 01:05:44,181 uh, I said either... I said cream ale. 1286 01:05:44,216 --> 01:05:46,943 -It's kolsch. -Is it kolsch? Okay. 1287 01:05:46,977 --> 01:05:51,154 Number two, uh, toasty malt, Munich-y. 1288 01:05:51,188 --> 01:05:53,225 Uh, I said Marzen. 1289 01:05:53,259 --> 01:05:54,605 Oktoberfest, yeah. 1290 01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:55,848 BRIAN: Yeah, what is it? 1291 01:05:55,882 --> 01:05:56,987 Which one? 1292 01:05:57,022 --> 01:05:58,126 Spaten Oktoberfest. 1293 01:05:58,161 --> 01:06:02,165 Number three, dark but really low roast. 1294 01:06:02,199 --> 01:06:03,580 I said Schwarzbier. 1295 01:06:03,614 --> 01:06:07,342 -Yep, Kosritzer. Craft Kosritzer. -Nice. Kosritzer. 1296 01:06:07,377 --> 01:06:10,794 BRIAN: So the last two, I said German pilsner. 1297 01:06:10,828 --> 01:06:13,038 -Yeah, Krombacher. -Okay. 1298 01:06:13,072 --> 01:06:15,281 Number six was hard. Um... 1299 01:06:16,006 --> 01:06:17,387 Is it Dortmunder? 1300 01:06:18,767 --> 01:06:20,700 -Yep. -Is it? Nice. 1301 01:06:20,735 --> 01:06:22,150 I said Helles or Dortmunder. 1302 01:06:22,185 --> 01:06:23,738 -Damm. -Damm. Nice. 1303 01:06:23,772 --> 01:06:25,050 And that little oxidized helped. 1304 01:06:25,084 --> 01:06:27,845 -WIFE: All right, you got six done. -Yeah. 1305 01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:29,054 This is our life, pretty much. 1306 01:06:29,088 --> 01:06:31,090 WIFE: Yeah, this is it. 1307 01:06:31,953 --> 01:06:33,886 Sometimes, they don't go as well. 1308 01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:38,132 Our recycling can would indicate that we have a lot crazier life than... 1309 01:06:38,166 --> 01:06:39,478 I know, yeah. 1310 01:06:39,512 --> 01:06:42,032 There's the people who take up the recycling product, 1311 01:06:42,067 --> 01:06:44,966 "These people party their effin' faces off." 1312 01:06:45,001 --> 01:06:47,589 -But, little did they know, -We keep them awake, that's for sure. 1313 01:06:47,624 --> 01:06:50,282 the vast majority of that beer goes down the drain. [LAUGHING] 1314 01:06:50,316 --> 01:06:53,043 We just put in milk jugs, just leave them around as tips, 1315 01:06:53,078 --> 01:06:55,425 although just mixed up all in there. 1316 01:06:55,459 --> 01:06:56,495 Yeah. 1317 01:07:06,401 --> 01:07:09,094 I'm a Connecticut boy, so I'm on my way out to Connecticut. 1318 01:07:09,128 --> 01:07:10,819 I got a lot of friends out there, 1319 01:07:10,854 --> 01:07:13,719 and I lucked out, through a friend of a friend, 1320 01:07:13,753 --> 01:07:16,377 putting me in touch with this man, Danny Moses. 1321 01:07:16,411 --> 01:07:19,207 He's a character in the movieThe Big Short. 1322 01:07:19,242 --> 01:07:23,280 He seems to have quite a comprehension 1323 01:07:23,315 --> 01:07:27,284 of the economy, investing, the hedge fund market, 1324 01:07:27,319 --> 01:07:31,771 and just generally financial numbers overall. 1325 01:07:34,740 --> 01:07:35,879 -Danny? -Hey, Drew. 1326 01:07:35,913 --> 01:07:37,087 -Drew. -How are you? 1327 01:07:37,122 --> 01:07:38,537 -Pleasure to meet you. -Very nice to meet you. 1328 01:07:38,571 --> 01:07:40,228 -Come on in. Absolutely. -Thank you so much for having me. 1329 01:07:42,610 --> 01:07:43,645 Come on in. 1330 01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:47,718 Have a seat right there. 1331 01:07:48,409 --> 01:07:49,410 Did you bring me some samples? 1332 01:07:49,444 --> 01:07:51,446 -I certainly did. -Atta boy. 1333 01:07:51,481 --> 01:07:54,691 [STUTTERS] So I did the key fact sheet, 1334 01:07:54,725 --> 01:07:59,696 and this is kinda like the full thing and the entire background of everything. 1335 01:07:59,730 --> 01:08:01,215 But, as you said, 1336 01:08:01,249 --> 01:08:03,631 -first, the good stuff, right? -Right. Exactly. 1337 01:08:03,665 --> 01:08:05,598 I did get a chance to read through a lot of it. 1338 01:08:05,633 --> 01:08:08,222 I wrote down some notes, so I was able to get a better idea. 1339 01:08:08,256 --> 01:08:09,740 Oh, I really appreciate that. 1340 01:08:09,775 --> 01:08:12,191 Thank you so much for taking the time to look at it, 1341 01:08:12,226 --> 01:08:13,468 you know, for having me here. 1342 01:08:13,503 --> 01:08:16,575 -This is... this is my dream. -That's great. 1343 01:08:16,609 --> 01:08:18,266 This is my happiness, and I really think 1344 01:08:18,301 --> 01:08:20,751 this is where I see craft beer going in the future. 1345 01:08:20,786 --> 01:08:24,410 Craft beer and craft beer cocktails, which is even more important. 1346 01:08:24,445 --> 01:08:27,137 So, to make sure I don't give you any bottle bombs. 1347 01:08:27,172 --> 01:08:29,277 So this is gonna be the Bollywood Brown Ale. 1348 01:08:29,312 --> 01:08:31,693 What this guy has is it's a brown ale 1349 01:08:31,728 --> 01:08:34,903 with cardamom cloves and cinnamon in it. 1350 01:08:34,938 --> 01:08:38,286 It comes in almost like a winter warmer for you. 1351 01:08:38,321 --> 01:08:39,874 So I don't know if you wanna do some glassware 1352 01:08:39,908 --> 01:08:41,703 or you're happy to swig straight out of the bottle. 1353 01:08:41,738 --> 01:08:43,774 If you think out of the bottle's good. I'll do it out of the bottle. 1354 01:08:43,809 --> 01:08:44,879 Absolutely. 1355 01:08:46,501 --> 01:08:48,158 That's great. Really good. 1356 01:08:48,193 --> 01:08:49,849 Right now, quality is such a key... 1357 01:08:49,884 --> 01:08:53,612 Quality and authenticity are such key aspects of this world, 1358 01:08:53,646 --> 01:08:57,340 of, frankly, the slow food movement as a whole, 1359 01:08:57,374 --> 01:09:01,585 and if you bring quality into both sets of products, 1360 01:09:01,620 --> 01:09:05,279 whether it'd be the Drew's Brews or the Drew's Booze, 1361 01:09:05,313 --> 01:09:06,797 that then uses the Drew's Brews... 1362 01:09:06,832 --> 01:09:08,937 Try saying that three times. [CHUCKLES] 1363 01:09:08,972 --> 01:09:13,494 That's where you're gonna find a cross-pollination of market segments, 1364 01:09:13,528 --> 01:09:16,945 and you're gonna find both the cocktail drinker, 1365 01:09:16,980 --> 01:09:18,706 who is looking for exploration, 1366 01:09:18,740 --> 01:09:20,708 because that's what we're hearing from the industry, 1367 01:09:20,742 --> 01:09:23,849 cocktail drinkers are looking for new things to try out. 1368 01:09:23,883 --> 01:09:27,473 Craft beer drinkers, you can't stop them from trying new things. 1369 01:09:27,508 --> 01:09:31,615 It's always, "What do you have for me next? What do you have for me next?" 1370 01:09:31,650 --> 01:09:35,205 This provides that next step immediately, 1371 01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:38,726 but also provides an opportunity to continuously change that next step, 1372 01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:41,660 whether it's changing the beer flavor, as in altering that, 1373 01:09:41,694 --> 01:09:44,318 altering creating an all-new cocktail for the beer, 1374 01:09:44,352 --> 01:09:46,596 working together to both break down walls 1375 01:09:46,630 --> 01:09:50,496 in the sense that, you're a cocktail drinker, I'm a beer drinker. 1376 01:09:50,531 --> 01:09:53,223 There's no longer a differentiation between the two of us 1377 01:09:53,258 --> 01:09:55,570 because we're branching out, we're exploring, 1378 01:09:55,605 --> 01:09:57,365 but we're doing it in a familiar capacity, 1379 01:09:57,400 --> 01:10:01,369 whether you're doing it in the cocktail and I'm doing it with beer in a cocktail. 1380 01:10:01,404 --> 01:10:04,579 So I got the whole kinda what you're trying to do, 1381 01:10:04,614 --> 01:10:06,443 you know, exploration and beer and so forth. 1382 01:10:06,478 --> 01:10:09,757 So, that's great. I like the concept, I like the name, 1383 01:10:09,791 --> 01:10:12,138 I like the variety, I like the entire idea. 1384 01:10:12,173 --> 01:10:13,450 Where I think there's issues, 1385 01:10:13,485 --> 01:10:15,245 you still will need to hire some key employees. 1386 01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:17,385 I have no doubt that you can find them, 1387 01:10:17,420 --> 01:10:20,285 but to have to hire the employee, 1388 01:10:20,319 --> 01:10:21,941 tell them they're not gonna take salary, 1389 01:10:21,976 --> 01:10:25,497 and make them invest in the company in some form or fashion. 1390 01:10:25,531 --> 01:10:27,257 And knowing that they won't be able to draw salary 1391 01:10:27,292 --> 01:10:30,467 probably for at least a year, a year and a half, so forth, that's tough, 1392 01:10:30,502 --> 01:10:32,089 because the person you're probably getting, 1393 01:10:32,124 --> 01:10:33,850 unless it's a very wealthy person 1394 01:10:33,884 --> 01:10:36,611 who just loves the business and wants to be a part of it, which is possible, 1395 01:10:36,646 --> 01:10:39,752 that seems a little far-fetched. 1396 01:10:39,787 --> 01:10:44,585 I would focus on, "This is my passion. I make a great beer. 1397 01:10:44,619 --> 01:10:48,036 Those two things together can ultimately lead to massive success 1398 01:10:48,071 --> 01:10:49,279 if I can operate." 1399 01:10:49,314 --> 01:10:50,625 Just from an operations perspective, 1400 01:10:50,660 --> 01:10:52,903 saying you're gonna use a used van for $15,000 1401 01:10:52,938 --> 01:10:56,390 and deliver the beer to restaurants locally, 1402 01:10:56,424 --> 01:10:59,255 that's practical, right, 1403 01:10:59,289 --> 01:11:01,533 but it's kind of a small-thinking detail 1404 01:11:01,567 --> 01:11:03,017 in terms of how you're gonna run the business. 1405 01:11:03,051 --> 01:11:04,260 It's kind of glue, you know-- 1406 01:11:04,294 --> 01:11:06,123 glue and paste in putting the thing together to a degree. 1407 01:11:06,158 --> 01:11:07,746 -You know what I'm saying? Like... -Oh, absolutely. 1408 01:11:07,780 --> 01:11:11,336 But again, that's not a bad thing, 1409 01:11:11,370 --> 01:11:12,923 I just think you need to take a step back 1410 01:11:12,958 --> 01:11:15,926 and look at the business in its entirety as a business. 1411 01:11:15,961 --> 01:11:18,998 I completely understand and appreciate your criticism. 1412 01:11:19,033 --> 01:11:21,725 That is definitely something that I'm gonna take into consideration. 1413 01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:25,039 So, I don't think this is something right now, 1414 01:11:25,073 --> 01:11:27,973 under this business plan and under this stage, that I would invest in. 1415 01:11:28,007 --> 01:11:30,631 -I would invest in you. Okay? -[LAUGHS] Much appreciated. 1416 01:11:30,665 --> 01:11:32,736 But in this business plan, as it stands right now, 1417 01:11:32,771 --> 01:11:34,290 I don't think it's something that I would do, 1418 01:11:34,324 --> 01:11:37,500 but I think you're gonna make this into something. I really do, 1419 01:11:37,534 --> 01:11:39,225 um, because the beer is... 1420 01:11:39,260 --> 01:11:40,882 what is it? 40% alcohol? 1421 01:11:40,917 --> 01:11:43,022 I can't really get my words out at this point. 1422 01:11:43,057 --> 01:11:44,576 -[LAUGHING] -But, uh, no. 1423 01:11:44,610 --> 01:11:47,613 But, um, I think, um... I think it's great. 1424 01:11:49,305 --> 01:11:52,377 I probably should take my keys by myself. 1425 01:11:52,411 --> 01:11:53,999 I can throw the bottle caps away. 1426 01:11:54,033 --> 01:11:55,828 -That'd be wonderful. Thank you. -All right. 1427 01:11:57,140 --> 01:11:58,417 This way. 1428 01:12:01,386 --> 01:12:03,180 It's a beautiful house, by the way. 1429 01:12:05,148 --> 01:12:06,529 Yeah, I can do that. 1430 01:12:06,563 --> 01:12:08,669 Well, if you get lost in the Wilner Westport, give me a ring. 1431 01:12:08,703 --> 01:12:10,395 I'll keep in touch and I'll shoot you that email. 1432 01:12:10,429 --> 01:12:11,810 That'd be wonderful. Thank you so much. 1433 01:12:11,844 --> 01:12:13,881 -Have a great weekend. All right, then. -Take care. 1434 01:12:23,131 --> 01:12:25,479 Wow. Uh, God. 1435 01:12:25,513 --> 01:12:27,308 Um, I'm just... 1436 01:12:27,343 --> 01:12:29,034 I'm taking this all in. 1437 01:12:30,518 --> 01:12:33,659 Yeah, that went... That went well. 1438 01:12:33,694 --> 01:12:36,697 Of course, there's no investment yet, 1439 01:12:37,456 --> 01:12:38,940 but, yeah, there's something there. 1440 01:12:38,975 --> 01:12:41,149 I've got something here, 1441 01:12:41,184 --> 01:12:43,980 and, finally, there's some validation behind it. 1442 01:12:49,365 --> 01:12:51,021 [INDISTINCT CHATTER] 1443 01:12:52,644 --> 01:12:53,817 RAY: I'm Ray Daniels, 1444 01:12:53,852 --> 01:12:55,888 founder and directing Cicerone Program. 1445 01:12:55,923 --> 01:12:59,409 And I will be one of your oral examiners for the next two days. 1446 01:12:59,444 --> 01:13:02,481 So be direct, answer the question, 1447 01:13:02,516 --> 01:13:04,863 um, and stay on task. 1448 01:13:04,897 --> 01:13:07,590 If the examiner tries to interrupt you to redirect, 1449 01:13:07,624 --> 01:13:09,074 listen to the examiner. 1450 01:13:09,108 --> 01:13:11,145 We're gonna be your friend in that case. 1451 01:13:14,113 --> 01:13:15,701 BRIAN: You're just feeling very tense. 1452 01:13:15,736 --> 01:13:18,842 You know, it's kind of a high-stress type of situation. 1453 01:13:18,877 --> 01:13:20,465 It's like everyone comes in 1454 01:13:20,499 --> 01:13:23,640 and everyone's trying to pretend that they're, like, real confident, 1455 01:13:23,675 --> 01:13:25,746 but no one's confident, everyone's freaking out. 1456 01:13:25,780 --> 01:13:28,300 So, like, people are, like, kinda, you know, putting on airs, 1457 01:13:28,334 --> 01:13:29,474 puffing out their chests a little bit. 1458 01:13:29,508 --> 01:13:31,510 A lot of kinda ego stuff going on. 1459 01:13:31,545 --> 01:13:36,757 And then, by lunchtime, it's like everyone's kind of facade has been broken, 1460 01:13:36,791 --> 01:13:40,450 and is talking and chatting, you know, as much as we can, 1461 01:13:40,485 --> 01:13:43,039 and just trying to not freak out. 1462 01:13:43,073 --> 01:13:48,769 I mean, the kind of design of the test is almost to just put a lot of stress on you. 1463 01:13:53,463 --> 01:13:57,398 We're halfway through day one of the Master Cicerone exam. 1464 01:13:57,433 --> 01:13:59,296 In terms of the candidate responses, 1465 01:13:59,331 --> 01:14:02,921 I was doing oral exams, talking about beer styles. 1466 01:14:02,955 --> 01:14:06,476 And, boy, the first candidate came in, 1467 01:14:06,511 --> 01:14:08,167 just really hit it out of the park. 1468 01:14:08,202 --> 01:14:10,342 It's like, "Wow, maybe this is too easy." 1469 01:14:10,376 --> 01:14:14,001 And then, the next two or three, were like, "Okay, this is what I expect." 1470 01:14:14,035 --> 01:14:17,349 So I got pretty much the usual range of results. 1471 01:14:18,661 --> 01:14:20,179 You could hardly go wrong with those. 1472 01:14:20,214 --> 01:14:23,251 I mean, that's like, it's close to universal beers, 1473 01:14:23,286 --> 01:14:24,563 like the brown ale or... 1474 01:14:24,598 --> 01:14:26,013 a typical lager or something. 1475 01:14:26,047 --> 01:14:27,324 It's so versatile. 1476 01:14:32,744 --> 01:14:35,125 BRIAN: At this point, three courses are way through, 1477 01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:37,231 I think a lot of people just from talking to them, 1478 01:14:37,265 --> 01:14:39,751 are feeling like they're probably out of the running, 1479 01:14:39,785 --> 01:14:41,511 so I'm feeling good, 1480 01:14:41,546 --> 01:14:43,409 and now, I'm more on the homestretch. 1481 01:14:43,444 --> 01:14:45,239 [INDISTINCT CONVERSATION] 1482 01:15:09,228 --> 01:15:10,436 RAY: Congratulations. 1483 01:15:10,471 --> 01:15:12,818 You survived the Master Cicerone exam. 1484 01:15:12,853 --> 01:15:14,406 And again, in some cases... 1485 01:15:16,097 --> 01:15:18,065 [EXAMINEES CHEERING] 1486 01:15:20,274 --> 01:15:23,242 I hope that you will find it was rewarding, 1487 01:15:23,277 --> 01:15:27,523 and that it was a learning experience, regardless, 1488 01:15:27,557 --> 01:15:32,562 and it'll enhance your future beer knowledge one way or the other. 1489 01:15:32,597 --> 01:15:34,633 I just got to dinner with the kids. 1490 01:15:34,668 --> 01:15:36,601 We go to a beer place and walk in. 1491 01:15:36,635 --> 01:15:38,361 "Oh, Ray Daniels..." 1492 01:15:38,395 --> 01:15:42,054 He's like, "Dude, they're..." I was like, "Yeah, I got this, don't worry, 1493 01:15:42,089 --> 01:15:44,401 I'm a big fish in a really small pond." 1494 01:15:45,230 --> 01:15:46,162 As my wife always says, 1495 01:15:46,196 --> 01:15:48,578 "Don't forget, your only beer-famous." 1496 01:15:48,613 --> 01:15:50,200 [ALL LAUGHING] 1497 01:15:50,235 --> 01:15:52,858 -I want you to remember. -I'm actually famous. 1498 01:15:53,445 --> 01:15:55,136 I want to remind you. 1499 01:15:57,794 --> 01:15:59,658 All right, ladies and gentlemen, 1500 01:15:59,693 --> 01:16:02,730 congratulations on completing the ordeal. 1501 01:16:02,765 --> 01:16:04,145 ALL: Cheers. 1502 01:16:05,940 --> 01:16:07,390 I mean, I'm feeling... 1503 01:16:07,424 --> 01:16:09,599 In my mind, I'm feeling as good as I can feel. 1504 01:16:09,634 --> 01:16:11,912 Um, compared to last time, 1505 01:16:11,946 --> 01:16:15,363 I walked out feeling mediocre, 1506 01:16:15,398 --> 01:16:17,952 but thinking, you know, I had a decent chance, 1507 01:16:17,987 --> 01:16:19,609 and it turned out, I remember... 1508 01:16:19,644 --> 01:16:24,096 I remember a couple days after I took the last year, Jason was like, 1509 01:16:24,131 --> 01:16:26,858 "If you had to put money on it, what would it say? One way or the other." 1510 01:16:26,892 --> 01:16:28,618 And I said, you know, he had to put a number on it. 1511 01:16:28,653 --> 01:16:33,519 And I said, like, "83, 84, like, I really think I just barely missed it. 1512 01:16:33,554 --> 01:16:37,420 "But I might be pleasantly surprised and it ended up being 83.6." 1513 01:16:37,454 --> 01:16:42,356 This time, if somebody said, "Here's $1 million, you gotta put it on yes or no." 1514 01:16:42,390 --> 01:16:43,909 I mean, I'd put it on yes. 1515 01:16:55,300 --> 01:16:57,371 RAY: Break some hearts and make some days. 1516 01:16:59,269 --> 01:17:00,926 Ten phone calls to make. 1517 01:17:02,410 --> 01:17:04,067 Ten master candidates. 1518 01:17:05,690 --> 01:17:07,105 [CELL PHONE BEEPING] 1519 01:17:25,123 --> 01:17:29,265 We went over to the old Goodwill, dropped some stuff off. 1520 01:17:29,299 --> 01:17:31,923 We're moving back to Pittsburgh, 1521 01:17:31,957 --> 01:17:34,373 which we've been trying to do, you know... 1522 01:17:34,408 --> 01:17:36,582 When we moved up here, we knew it was gonna be temporary. 1523 01:17:36,617 --> 01:17:38,826 Uh, we thought we'd be here a little bit longer, 1524 01:17:38,861 --> 01:17:40,725 but we got the opportunity quicker than expected 1525 01:17:40,759 --> 01:17:42,692 to get back and still, you know, 1526 01:17:42,727 --> 01:17:45,281 do the same job that I really, really like, 1527 01:17:45,315 --> 01:17:49,181 so, um, or a slightly different version of that same job, 1528 01:17:49,216 --> 01:17:51,839 which is... or thrilled about. 1529 01:17:51,874 --> 01:17:53,427 But it happened quicker than expected. 1530 01:17:53,461 --> 01:17:56,602 Pretty much packed. We're kinda ready to go, 1531 01:17:56,637 --> 01:17:58,397 uh, here in a few days. 1532 01:17:59,709 --> 01:18:01,159 BRIAN: I'm glad you're here. 1533 01:18:02,919 --> 01:18:05,094 [BABY BABBLING] 1534 01:18:05,888 --> 01:18:08,511 So, I did not pass the exam. 1535 01:18:08,545 --> 01:18:12,446 Um, so I came, again, very close. 1536 01:18:12,480 --> 01:18:15,829 I did just... actually, slightly worse than last time, 1537 01:18:15,863 --> 01:18:17,347 which I don't... 1538 01:18:17,382 --> 01:18:20,730 Still struggling in my head as to how the heck that happened. 1539 01:18:20,765 --> 01:18:24,078 I'm really surprised, frankly, that I didn't pass this time. 1540 01:18:24,113 --> 01:18:27,323 I really had a good feeling that, uh... 1541 01:18:27,357 --> 01:18:29,981 I felt like I did just a little bit better than last time, 1542 01:18:30,015 --> 01:18:31,707 which is all I needed to do. 1543 01:18:31,741 --> 01:18:34,123 And the score didn't play out that way, 1544 01:18:34,157 --> 01:18:37,885 so I might just kind of take a year, 1545 01:18:37,920 --> 01:18:39,784 and come back in 2018 and take it. 1546 01:18:39,818 --> 01:18:42,338 Maybe if they offer one in the spring. I really don't know. 1547 01:18:42,372 --> 01:18:45,341 It seems like they're only gonna offer one Master Cicerone this year. 1548 01:18:45,375 --> 01:18:48,620 It's... It's a tough pill to swallow, 1549 01:18:48,654 --> 01:18:51,968 it's tough to stay motivated and continue doing it, 1550 01:18:52,382 --> 01:18:53,556 but, um... 1551 01:18:55,144 --> 01:18:56,352 [SIGHS] 1552 01:18:56,386 --> 01:18:59,079 It's really hard to put this much work into something 1553 01:18:59,113 --> 01:19:02,496 and not, you know, make it happen, 1554 01:19:03,773 --> 01:19:06,880 'cause it's, you know, you kinda... 1555 01:19:06,914 --> 01:19:10,918 Like I said, no matter how you, I guess, uh... 1556 01:19:12,333 --> 01:19:14,094 cut it in your head, 1557 01:19:14,128 --> 01:19:15,820 there's, you know, I left points in the table. 1558 01:19:15,854 --> 01:19:19,996 And when you're that close, you really can't afford to do that. So... 1559 01:19:31,076 --> 01:19:33,665 DREW: Yeah, so what we got going on here, 1560 01:19:33,699 --> 01:19:36,772 this is my jalapeno saison 1561 01:19:36,806 --> 01:19:40,016 which I brewed just two weeks ago 1562 01:19:40,051 --> 01:19:42,916 because I actually forgot that I was brewing for this event 1563 01:19:42,950 --> 01:19:46,816 or should I say that this event was coming up as rapidly as it was. 1564 01:19:46,851 --> 01:19:49,336 So I actually had to skip work for a day 1565 01:19:49,370 --> 01:19:51,579 and brew this beer on a Monday. 1566 01:19:51,614 --> 01:19:55,583 And so, as a result, it's called my Hookie Jalapeno Saison, 1567 01:19:55,618 --> 01:19:59,553 in honor of having to skip being a lawyer to become a brewer for a little bit. 1568 01:20:01,279 --> 01:20:03,419 Almost forgot the most important part. 1569 01:20:06,146 --> 01:20:07,561 Gotta get the branding there. 1570 01:20:09,943 --> 01:20:11,185 It's interesting. 1571 01:20:11,220 --> 01:20:13,670 So normally, you come to a festival like this 1572 01:20:13,705 --> 01:20:15,465 and you expect a younger crowd, 1573 01:20:15,500 --> 01:20:18,537 people who are a little bit more experimental in what they're trying in beer. 1574 01:20:18,572 --> 01:20:21,299 This is a much older crowd, 1575 01:20:21,333 --> 01:20:25,406 so it's gonna be even more of an uphill battle, and even more fun. 1576 01:20:25,441 --> 01:20:27,512 This is where the lawyer and the brewer come in together. 1577 01:20:27,546 --> 01:20:30,273 The lawyer convinces you to drink the beer that the brewer made. 1578 01:20:30,308 --> 01:20:32,172 At least that's the way I like to think of myself, 1579 01:20:32,206 --> 01:20:34,760 but hopefully I'll convince some people do that. 1580 01:20:34,795 --> 01:20:36,279 Say, while I run down the line... 1581 01:20:36,314 --> 01:20:37,487 I don't mean to catch you guys off. 1582 01:20:37,522 --> 01:20:39,248 Will you just pour for me if anybody comes up? 1583 01:20:39,282 --> 01:20:40,870 Yeah, thank you, man. I appreciate it. 1584 01:20:40,905 --> 01:20:42,907 And I'll do the same for you, obviously. 1585 01:20:42,941 --> 01:20:44,909 You get so much of that lime on the nose, 1586 01:20:44,943 --> 01:20:48,257 and then everything else come in through the rest. Thank you, Ma'am. 1587 01:20:48,291 --> 01:20:50,500 Oh, shoot. I gotta get back to work. 1588 01:20:51,018 --> 01:20:53,020 [INDISTINCT CHATTER] 1589 01:20:54,159 --> 01:20:56,265 Sorry, guys, I abandoned my post. 1590 01:20:56,713 --> 01:20:58,301 All right. 1591 01:20:58,336 --> 01:21:00,407 Just a little. Just a little guy. 1592 01:21:01,787 --> 01:21:02,650 Good. 1593 01:21:03,824 --> 01:21:05,722 -Let's do cheers. -Cheers. 1594 01:21:05,757 --> 01:21:07,069 To jalapenos. 1595 01:21:07,759 --> 01:21:09,554 -What's your name? -Drew. 1596 01:21:09,588 --> 01:21:10,727 And to Drew. 1597 01:21:10,762 --> 01:21:12,039 Drew's Brews. 1598 01:21:16,941 --> 01:21:18,149 I like it. 1599 01:21:23,188 --> 01:21:25,535 -Little surprise there, huh? -Really kick. 1600 01:21:26,053 --> 01:21:27,296 Va-va-voom. 1601 01:21:27,330 --> 01:21:30,471 [LAUGHS] That's the best response I've ever gotten. 1602 01:21:33,681 --> 01:21:35,269 -This is good. -Yeah? 1603 01:21:35,304 --> 01:21:37,168 -You're a fan? -Very good. It's different. 1604 01:21:37,202 --> 01:21:38,859 Different, that's what I'm going for. 1605 01:21:38,894 --> 01:21:40,102 It's different. It's very good. 1606 01:21:40,999 --> 01:21:42,898 -Just give me a little. -Little test. 1607 01:21:42,932 --> 01:21:45,935 -Thank you. -No problem. Thank you for trying it out. 1608 01:21:45,970 --> 01:21:47,557 Oh, it smells like jalapeno. 1609 01:21:47,592 --> 01:21:49,352 It smells like it's gonna give you heat, 1610 01:21:49,387 --> 01:21:51,113 but when you taste it, your tongue will be like, 1611 01:21:51,147 --> 01:21:53,149 -"What the heck just happened?" -Whoo! 1612 01:21:59,845 --> 01:22:00,950 -That's... -Give me a little bit more? 1613 01:22:00,985 --> 01:22:03,056 Yes, please. All right. 1614 01:22:04,574 --> 01:22:06,749 -There you are. -It's hot, but it's sweet. 1615 01:22:07,750 --> 01:22:08,958 WOMAN: Wow. 1616 01:22:08,993 --> 01:22:10,373 Yeah, you guys fans? 1617 01:22:10,408 --> 01:22:12,858 Huge market for this. All my kids. 1618 01:22:12,893 --> 01:22:15,482 So far, uh, it's been freaking great. 1619 01:22:15,516 --> 01:22:17,725 I mean, I'd probably respond the same way 1620 01:22:17,760 --> 01:22:20,349 if everybody walked right here and hated my beer. 1621 01:22:20,383 --> 01:22:23,421 I just like being here and interacting with the people. 1622 01:22:23,455 --> 01:22:25,526 But it's been exactly what I've wanted 1623 01:22:25,561 --> 01:22:29,634 in a sense that everybody for the most part who's come up 1624 01:22:29,668 --> 01:22:32,982 has come up here very quizzical, very skeptical. 1625 01:22:33,017 --> 01:22:34,984 I've been hauling people from afar, 1626 01:22:35,019 --> 01:22:37,124 and seeing, watching their mouths go, 1627 01:22:37,159 --> 01:22:39,989 "Jalapeno? I don't know if I want jalapeno." 1628 01:22:40,024 --> 01:22:42,302 "No, no, you do! Come over here." 1629 01:22:42,336 --> 01:22:45,891 And I think... I think I've proselytized enough. 1630 01:22:45,926 --> 01:22:47,617 I've converted a few to the flock. 1631 01:22:47,652 --> 01:22:51,552 In fact, I have this lovely woman who keeps coming back for more and more. 1632 01:22:51,587 --> 01:22:53,037 And that's why I'm here. 1633 01:22:53,071 --> 01:22:56,695 If there was just that woman and everybody else hated this beer, 1634 01:22:56,730 --> 01:22:58,525 I'd be the happiest camper in the world. 1635 01:22:58,559 --> 01:23:00,630 I could stand for another 12 and a half hours. 1636 01:23:00,665 --> 01:23:03,702 I don't care. This is what makes me happy. 1637 01:23:03,737 --> 01:23:05,152 This is why I do this. 1638 01:23:06,602 --> 01:23:08,638 Thank you again, guys. Take care. 1639 01:23:08,673 --> 01:23:09,812 All the best, okay. 1640 01:23:09,846 --> 01:23:12,504 This was so much fun. Thank you for having me, guys. 1641 01:23:24,275 --> 01:23:26,415 JIM: There are anthropologists who believed 1642 01:23:26,449 --> 01:23:29,590 that the reason that human beings 1643 01:23:29,625 --> 01:23:33,215 settled down, you know, into communities 1644 01:23:33,249 --> 01:23:36,425 and created civilization was in order to make beer. 1645 01:23:36,459 --> 01:23:40,118 It's so satisfying to come up out of that basement brewery 1646 01:23:40,153 --> 01:23:43,294 and to see people, after a long, hard day of work 1647 01:23:43,328 --> 01:23:45,399 or whatever things that they've been experiencing, 1648 01:23:45,434 --> 01:23:49,265 to sit down and to take what you created 1649 01:23:49,300 --> 01:23:51,095 and to take so much pleasure in it, 1650 01:23:51,129 --> 01:23:57,860 and to have that be the blossom for friendship and conversation and thought. 1651 01:24:00,311 --> 01:24:02,416 It's like collecting baseball cards at this point. 1652 01:24:02,451 --> 01:24:04,625 We got to talk about all the different styles 1653 01:24:04,660 --> 01:24:07,076 and places and times you had beer. 1654 01:24:07,111 --> 01:24:09,527 I think it's the way that concerts and music, 1655 01:24:09,561 --> 01:24:11,563 and things people love and are passionate about, 1656 01:24:11,598 --> 01:24:13,462 they're now collecting these beer stories. 1657 01:24:13,496 --> 01:24:15,671 And beers, as a way of life, 1658 01:24:15,705 --> 01:24:18,501 just something to talk about and relate with other people. 1659 01:24:18,536 --> 01:24:21,366 People wanna know where their beer came from. 1660 01:24:21,401 --> 01:24:22,988 It means something to them. 1661 01:24:23,023 --> 01:24:26,406 If they can buy beer from a brewery 1662 01:24:26,440 --> 01:24:29,029 that they know, that they can relate to, 1663 01:24:29,064 --> 01:24:31,031 that's part of the community. 1664 01:24:31,066 --> 01:24:34,897 The fact that I have the freedom to come up with anything in my wildest imagination, 1665 01:24:34,931 --> 01:24:38,521 and a month later, share it with beer-lovers at our pub, 1666 01:24:38,556 --> 01:24:41,110 is what gets me up every day. 1667 01:24:41,145 --> 01:24:44,700 It really is something that you get to do something you're passionate about, 1668 01:24:44,734 --> 01:24:46,667 and that's one of the things that I, you know, 1669 01:24:46,702 --> 01:24:48,221 I'm lucky enough to wake up every day 1670 01:24:48,255 --> 01:24:50,637 and know that, um, I do what I love. 1671 01:24:52,535 --> 01:24:54,296 If you fall in love with something, 1672 01:24:54,330 --> 01:24:58,196 say, it's jazz, you know, or it's baseball, 1673 01:24:58,231 --> 01:25:00,750 somebody played you your first Coltrane record 1674 01:25:00,785 --> 01:25:03,305 somebody took you to your first baseball game, 1675 01:25:03,339 --> 01:25:06,273 and on that day, a little door swings open. 1676 01:25:06,308 --> 01:25:08,482 On the other side is a better life. 1677 01:25:09,345 --> 01:25:11,036 That's what we're doing. 1678 01:25:11,071 --> 01:25:13,936 We're here to bring you a better life. 1679 01:25:15,282 --> 01:25:16,318 That is urgent. 1680 01:25:16,352 --> 01:25:18,320 [LAUGHS] It's very urgent. 1681 01:25:18,354 --> 01:25:21,978 I'm not entirely sure there's anything more urgent. 1682 01:25:23,463 --> 01:25:26,569 ["BEER BOTTLE BOOGIE" PLAYING] 1683 01:25:26,604 --> 01:25:30,504 So, right now, the primary fermentation is more or less complete, 1684 01:25:30,539 --> 01:25:32,403 it looks like. Uh, you don't see... 1685 01:25:32,437 --> 01:25:35,854 When you have what's called "high krausen," like the peak of fermentation, 1686 01:25:35,889 --> 01:25:41,550 you get a big old, kinda cloud of, uh, CO2 and foam, 1687 01:25:41,584 --> 01:25:44,104 what looks like kind of a head on top of the beer. 1688 01:25:44,139 --> 01:25:46,175 ♪ Beer bottle boogie 1689 01:25:46,210 --> 01:25:51,629 ♪ I have the beer bottle boogie Way down deep inside ♪ 1690 01:25:53,458 --> 01:25:57,013 ♪ I went home that night About half past ten ♪ 1691 01:25:57,048 --> 01:26:00,534 ♪ The door was locked And I couldn't get in ♪ 1692 01:26:00,569 --> 01:26:03,882 ♪ I step around To the backyard gate ♪ 1693 01:26:03,917 --> 01:26:06,747 ♪ Somethin' was a-comin' But I ducked too late ♪ 1694 01:26:06,782 --> 01:26:09,336 ♪ I have The beer bottle boogie ♪ 1695 01:26:10,337 --> 01:26:13,133 ♪ I have The beer bottle boogie ♪ 1696 01:26:13,168 --> 01:26:18,725 ♪ I have the beer bottle boogie Way down deep inside ♪ 1697 01:26:20,865 --> 01:26:24,386 ♪ After a while I began to come around ♪ 1698 01:26:24,420 --> 01:26:27,699 ♪ I got up Over that dirty ground ♪ 1699 01:26:30,461 --> 01:26:32,428 Break some hearts and make some days. 1700 01:26:34,016 --> 01:26:37,295 ♪ She had The beer bottle boogie ♪ 1701 01:26:37,330 --> 01:26:39,849 ♪ I have The beer bottle boogie ♪ 1702 01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:43,405 Hi, Brian, Ray Daniels. 1703 01:26:45,648 --> 01:26:47,063 Doing all right. How about yourself? 1704 01:27:08,913 --> 01:27:12,468 ♪ Last night I was sittin' In the diamond box ♪ 1705 01:27:12,503 --> 01:27:16,092 ♪ I was all hepped up Like a shooting star ♪ 1706 01:27:16,127 --> 01:27:19,475 ♪ A-rockin' and a-reelin' And acting like a fool ♪ 1707 01:27:19,510 --> 01:27:22,513 ♪ The next thing I knew I fell off of my stool ♪ 1708 01:27:22,547 --> 01:27:24,756 ♪ I had The beer bottle boogie ♪ 1709 01:27:25,826 --> 01:27:28,760 ♪ I had The beer bottle boogie ♪ 1710 01:27:28,795 --> 01:27:34,594 ♪ I had the beer bottle boogie Way down deep inside ♪ 1711 01:27:36,009 --> 01:27:39,668 ♪ Well, the bartender kicked me In the seat of the pants ♪ 1712 01:27:39,702 --> 01:27:43,154 ♪ He said get out of here, boy You ain't got a chance ♪ 1713 01:27:43,188 --> 01:27:46,261 ♪ I started toward the door The bottle was flying ♪ 1714 01:27:46,295 --> 01:27:49,643 ♪ One caught me on the head And I started to cry ♪ 1715 01:27:49,678 --> 01:27:51,956 ♪ I had The beer bottle boogie ♪ 1716 01:27:53,026 --> 01:27:56,167 ♪ I had The beer bottle boogie ♪ 1717 01:27:56,201 --> 01:28:01,828 ♪ I had the beer bottle boogie Way down deep inside ♪ 1718 01:28:04,762 --> 01:28:07,661 ♪ I had The beer bottle boogie ♪ 1719 01:28:07,696 --> 01:28:10,319 ♪ She had The beer bottle boogie ♪ 1720 01:28:10,354 --> 01:28:13,702 ♪ Way down deep inside 1721 01:28:36,069 --> 01:28:39,659 ♪ Last night I was sittin' In the diamond box ♪ 1722 01:28:39,693 --> 01:28:43,179 ♪ I was all hepped up Like a shooting star ♪ 1723 01:28:43,214 --> 01:28:46,597 ♪ A-rockin' and a-reelin' And acting like a fool ♪ 1724 01:28:46,631 --> 01:28:49,634 ♪ The next thing I knew I fell off of my stool ♪ 1725 01:28:49,669 --> 01:28:51,947 ♪ I had The beer bottle boogie ♪ 1726 01:28:52,879 --> 01:28:55,916 ♪ I had The beer bottle boogie ♪ 1727 01:28:55,951 --> 01:29:01,784 ♪ I had the beer bottle boogie Way down deep inside ♪ 1728 01:29:03,130 --> 01:29:06,824 ♪ Well, the bartender kicked me In the seat of the pants ♪ 1729 01:29:06,858 --> 01:29:10,275 ♪ He said get out of here, boy You ain't got a chance ♪ 1730 01:29:10,310 --> 01:29:13,693 ♪ I started toward the door The bottle was flying ♪ 1731 01:29:13,727 --> 01:29:16,834 ♪ One caught me on the head And I started to cry ♪ 1732 01:29:16,868 --> 01:29:19,112 ♪ I had The beer bottle boogie ♪ 1733 01:29:20,424 --> 01:29:23,185 ♪ I had The beer bottle boogie ♪ 1734 01:29:23,219 --> 01:29:30,054 ♪ I had the beer bottle boogie Way down deep inside ♪ 137068

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