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DREW: The one
I'm brewing today,
the last batch of it,
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is probably the closest
I've ever come [CHUCKLES]
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to being satisfied
with a beer.
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But that just makes
the process more fun,
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when I have laurels to rest on.
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What the heck
am I gonna do with all my time?
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All right.
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[SIGHS]
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This is not proper
brewing technique.
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This is brew technique.
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So I'm gonna take
my sack of grain,
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I'm gonna take my string.
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I'm literally just gonna
plop it on in there for a swim.
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There's just nothing
it can hide behind,
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nothing you can hide
those off flavors behind.
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There's a lot of precision
that you can put into it
if you want to.
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And me, being type-A,
I wanna put it all in there.
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Oh, the waiting
is the hardest part. [EXHALES]
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Tom Petty knows what's up.
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[FUNKY MUSIC PLAYING]
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In the last year,
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there have been four
new breweries opening,
every business day.
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GARRETT: If you can't
put that beer out,
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tasting essentially
the same every time,
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that doesn't mean
you're a craft brewer,
it means, you can't brew.
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There's over 10,000 wineries
in the US.
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Why can't there be 10,
15, 20,000 breweries?
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[PEOPLE CHEERING]
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MAN: Be that taste of home.
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You know when you come here, right? It's your taste of home.
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We're reaching the level
of complexity where people know
they've got options.
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People don't like
to talk about it,
but there's a bubble,
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you know, and bubbles burst.
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HOLL: US brewers
are really fearless,
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and they're willing
to try anything.
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Brewers, in general,
there's a lot of things
that are similar,
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just as many as
there's really different.
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Biggest thing they all have
in common is facial hair.
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RANDY: I like
the way it smells,
I like the way it looks,
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I like the way it tastes.
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I like the way
it makes me feel.
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HOLL: ...and they have been
homebrewers who went pro,
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uh, because they wanted
to follow their dreams.
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First time I ever
had a beer? All right.
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Um, oh, blimey.
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The first beer I ever
put in my mouth
was St. Pauli Girl.
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Some sips off of my
father's Black Label.
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Of course, I was 21
when I had my first beer.
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I mean, let's get that straight.
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My first beer
was Old Milwaukee,
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and I stole it out
of my grandfather's fridge.
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My first beer, most likely,
was not stolen out
of my dad's cooler,
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it was probably stolen out
of my next door neighbor's
cooler, you know,
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like me hopping the fence,
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you know, pulling
a couple of, uh--
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pulling a couple of Schlitz
out of their cooler,
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and then going and drinking
with my friend in my backyard.
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I remember going down
with my buddy, Chris Meth,
in the cellar,
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with my mom's chopping board,
a quarter, a glass,
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stealing his musette
and playing quarters,
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and feeling like
I saw the gods.
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My parents were very strict,
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and they made me wait
for my first beer
until I was four.
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And I gave it a little sip,
and then I didn't try beer
again for, like, ten years.
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I was being a nuisance
at a dinner party,
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and they handed me a little sip
of a Genesee Cream Ale
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before sending me
off to bed.
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I was probably
a whiny little brat,
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and Dad was sick
and tired of me,
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and at the end of this long day,
he's sitting with a bottle,
he's like, "Here, drink this."
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[LAUGHING]
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I remember wanting
to spit it out
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and wondering why anybody
every drank that stuff.
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I remember I drank it
and it tasted robust,
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and hoppy and bitter,
I was like,
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"Ooh, I don't know."
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I take a big swig of it,
and I was like... [SPITS]
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[LAUGHS]
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I head back to them, I'm like,
"Oh, my God, you drink that?"
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What do you need?
Onion? You need sage?
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I have sage, I have onion.
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[BABY BABBLING]
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Daddy's cooking dinner.
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-Daddy's getting done already.
-I'll do it with you.
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BRIAN: I'm Brian Reed.
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I'm a trade brewer
with Tenth and Blake.
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I live in Milwaukee,
but I'm from Pittsburgh.
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You know, beer's always
been something that's
kinda been around.
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My dad is someone
who's always enjoyed
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kind of experimenting with different beers going out
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and kinda hunting stuff down.
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So when, you know,
I was approaching
legal drinking age,
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naturally, that curiosity
kinda went in that direction.
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And I started homebrewing
when I was about 19.
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I guess I always got
more and more involved
in homebrewing.
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I became a beer judge--
a judge of beer competitions.
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You know, I went to college,
finished college.
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I, you know, majored
in something
completely different,
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and then started
kinda poking around,
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trying to find a way
into the beer business,
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'cause I knew that
that's what I wanted to do.
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I spent almost three years
right out of college in 2008,
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when the job market was trash.
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I got a job in a call center,
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and I did customer service
for a cell phone provider.
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And it was the most
soul-sucking, miserable job
in the world,
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and I did it for three years.
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And I was going
to a night shift one day,
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and I was sitting
and having lunch at a bar
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that was, you know,
served a lot of good beers.
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I was talking to the owner
who I knew.
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And I was like,
"If I go in today
and put in my two weeks notice,
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will you give me
a bartending job?
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'Cause I'm gonna apply
[CHUCKLES] to grad school."
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And he was like,
"Yeah, sure. Absolutely."
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So, then I kinda
focused on beer
moving forward.
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I was lucky enough
to get a job as a...
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kind of a consulting
capacity with a
start-up brewery,
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which turned into
a brewery job,
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which eventually
turned into a head
of brewing operations job.
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I teach people about beer.
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I help them to build
their confidence
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in talking about beer
and tasting beer,
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and expressing the things
that they are experiencing
and enjoying,
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and we kinda help them
to do that.
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DREW: This is like my redwell.
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I don't even know
what's in it.
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Probably like files
on my loans and stuff.
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How to get
a retail liquor license.
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There you go.
That's legal for you.
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But, again, everything I did,
every focus kind of was,
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"How do I turn this into beer?
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How do I take that next step
to get from where I am
to where I wanna be?
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How do I dig myself
out of the hole and the enormous
amount of debt?"
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My name is Drew Kostic.
I live in Brooklyn, New York,
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and I'm currently a clerk
to a federal judge.
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I graduated from undergrad
from Colgate University
in 2008.
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Homebrewing came into play,
my junior year.
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We were leaving our townhouse
which was a wreck, of course,
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because it was a group
of 16 dudes living in it.
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And one of my friends,
my roommate, in fact,
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had left what's called
a Mister Beer Kit.
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It's basically like a cheap
make-your-own-beer kit
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you can get at
Bed Bath & Beyond.
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And he left it behind,
I said, "Why the heck not?
Let's do it."
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Dug right in, brewed some,
what I considered
some terrible beer.
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I actually put it
in the screw top plastic bottles
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and all the carbonation
evaporated,
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so it basically came out
like a honey-- honey wine,
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almost like an
uncarbonated mead.
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Uh, but I was hooked. I was in.
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Left to move
to Poland for a year,
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and that was where
I met the Barts.
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Uh, two Flemish Belgians
who I lived with.
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So they bring this duvel
I never had before,
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and I watched these two
get into a full-on
shouting match
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about the proper way
to pour it,
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not even whether
it's right duvel,
not even the glassware,
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but how to properly pour it
and what angle it's poured at,
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and I thought,
"There's something to this."
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As I moved throughout Europe
and tasted that beer,
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I found there's more
to brewing than what
I'm just doing in my kitchen.
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There's more to this culture.
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And this happened, of course,
this is happening 2008, 2009,
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as the brewery movement is
just rapidly, rapidly evolving
over here in the States.
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And I just kinda came
at the right time, I guess.
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RAY: One other country brewer.
It sounds too important, too.
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I got involved
in the beer community
first as a drinker, obviously.
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Been a beer-drinking
for a long, long time.
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And I started homebrewing
in 1989.
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Making home brew led me
to start writing
about homebrew,
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led me to start organizing
events around beer
and homebrewing.
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And so, I took over
Brewers Publications,
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and fairly quickly published
the most successful title
they ever had,
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How To Brew by John Palmer.
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From that perch,
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I basically was surveying
all of beer knowledge,
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from beginning homebrew
all the way through advanced
professional brewing.
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And it was in that period,
when I was transitioning out
of the brewing association
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that the cicerone concept
came to me.
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Anybody who's been involved
in food and beverage,
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has looked at fine wine,
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who's familiar with
a sommelier for wine,
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you know,
who's had the idea,
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"Oh, maybe we should have
a sommelier for beer, right?"
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For the people
who are excited about beer,
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passionate about beer,
wanna make beer
as a career,
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it's a little bit
of a beacon of light for them
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in terms of having
a way to say,
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"I'm not just a drunk
who decided to, you know,
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spend his life
around beer all the time
so he could drink." Right?
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There's actually
a professional component
to this,
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there's actually a knowledge
that you have to know
that's specific.
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And it's actually hard
to pass the exam,
and I've done that.
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And so, I think people
take great pride in that.
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We have 75,000
certified beer servers,
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other 2,500 certified cicerones,
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and there are 11 masters.
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So, when I started,
I thought maybe it'd be
like a pyramid,
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a triangle kinda thing.
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Turns out it's more
like a Hershey's Kiss.
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[LAUGHING]
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It's a very sharp--
very sharp peak
at the top there
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in terms of, you know,
the number of folks who are
making it to master.
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DREW: I took a position
at a large law firm,
here in New York,
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um, I think something
200 attorneys worldwide,
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700 in New York alone.
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Was there for a year,
moved to a smaller law firm,
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which was only
about 70 attorneys total.
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And since then,
I've transitioned
into clerking.
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Clerking is
a wonderful opportunity
for a lawyer
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to spend a year or two years
working with a judge
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either at a federal
or state level.
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I took the position
that pays far less
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than a private practicing
attorney position
for the hours,
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to be able to do beer school
on the side,
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to be able to brew
frequently on the weekends,
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to bring that day down
from a 10 to 16-hour work day,
seven days a week
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to a 40-hour work week,
five days a week.
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It's something I could manage,
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something I could really
devote time to beer
as my second job.
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We have it right there.
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JASON: My name is Jason Pratt.
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I'm the manager
of beer education
of MilerCoors,
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and my relationship to beer
is a long, twisted one,
I guess,
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but it really is something
that defines a lot of the things
I do right now.
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It's a passion point for me.
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I recently just found out
that I have passed
theMaster Cicerone exam,
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so I'm one of 11 master
cicerones in the world.
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So that's something that
I take a lot of pride in.
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One of the biggest things for me is that Brian is taking theMaster Cicerone exam
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at the end of October.
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So I'm gonna do
everything I can
from now until then
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to make sure that
I'm giving just all the help
and support that I can,
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any resources that we have
available to us
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to help him get there.
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BRIAN: For me,
it started out as,
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you know, "I wanna be
a beer educator
for a living,
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so I should probably spend
some earnest time
learning about beer."
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And then it kinda
started me down that path.
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And after achieving, like,
certified level
and things like that,
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uh, just being, I think,
probably a naturally,
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you know, competitive person,
probably with a little bit
of chip on his shoulder,
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I said, you know,
"I wanna go for master level."
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I took it the first time
really prepared,
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you know, mostly on my own.
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Came up just perilously short.
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So it's almost worse than
failing it by landslide.
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And I'm studying to take
the master exam in October,
so we'll see.
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AUTOMATED VOICE SPEAKING:
Base malts usually represent
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the majority of the grest
for grain bill.
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They have enough distatic power to convert their own starches
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and some starch
from unmalted grain.
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Distatic power of about
140 degrees lintner.
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It has a mild flavor
that has a slightly grainy, honeyed flavor characteristic.
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DREW: Right now,
I am a graduate student
at Auburn University,
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and what my class is,
it's the Auburn Graduate
Certificate Program
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in brewing science
and brewing operations.
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While based at Auburn,
it's a distance
learning program
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that you can do
while fully employed.
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It's actually the first
of its nature
in the United States.
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It's only one
of two graduate programs
in the United States
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for brewing,
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and with the intention
of presenting somebody
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for the brewing
operations business.
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So, the rest of the year,
short term,
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maintain my intense focus on getting my class work done.
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I mean, I want 100
on everything.
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This isn't some, you know,
joke class in college,
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or a side prerequisite
I have to take.
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This is my life.
This is what I want
for my career.
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This is what I want
to satisfy every yearning
inside of me.
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And so, my goal is to be the perfect student that I can.
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Short term, additionally, find an internship in the area
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for part-time,
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I think it's between
10 and 12 hours a week,
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for my practicum aspect
of it this summer,
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which, again, you know,
you can't get tired when
you're doing what you love,
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so I'm not too worried about
having to focus to do
6:00 a.m. brewing sessions
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or 8:00 p.m. brewing sessions.
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And the long term focus
is to make Drew's Brews,
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a functioning,
operating brewery.
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[LIVELY PIANO MUSIC PLAYING]
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The big things
that have happened,
you know, in American brewing,
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you had the movement
in the 1800s
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of what was essentially
a cottage industry,
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that was virtually,
in many cases,
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on an almost homebrewing
sort of level,
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to really becoming business.
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And you had, yes,
you had small businesses.
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Also, one of the biggest things
was the wave
of German immigration
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into United States
who brought in lager brewing.
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And we got that more,
sort of, variegated
beer culture.
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If you were in a place
like New York City
in, say, 1880, 1890,
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what you would have seen
was the most diverse
beer culture
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on the face of the Earth.
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So, we had everything.
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What happened is that
we had 4,000 breweries
in the United States,
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and we had
tremendous diversity,
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and then, the matrix,
which is modern food-making,
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squeezed everything down
to a narrow channel.
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And the idea is that
we're going to apply technology,
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we also had the extra impetus
of prohibition.
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On the other side
of prohibition, 13 years,
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but the most monumental
13 years you can imagine.
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NEWSCASTER: The lid
is off in many places
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with the downfall
of prohibition
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being celebrated in real,
old-time high alert.
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Yes, and by the renewal
of all acquaintances,
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hotels and night clubs
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record a real prewar spirit
among those revelers.
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So you come out
the other end in 1933,
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and suddenly,
you have radio networks
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and trucks,
and a developed road system.
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And for the first time,
you have true
mass communication
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across the entire United States
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and the ability
to bring you the product.
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And these two things together
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start this process
where they say,
"Wait a minute.
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If we can actually
cancel the past
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in the matrix,
we make you forget
the reality."
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You know, "You don't remember
what tasty wheat tasted like.
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And now, we're gonna tell you,
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and we're gonna tell you
there was only ever
this one thing.
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And now we can sell it to you,
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and we can deliver it to you and we can advertise it to you
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all day, forever.
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And then we have
all the money."
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Right. So, is everybody
familiar with kinda
how this works?
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-MAN: No.
-Okay.
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Uh, what I'm gonna do is
I'm gonna pour eight beers
into glasses for you.
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We can set them up
sample one through eight.
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Beer number one.
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The Master Cicerone exam
takes place over two days.
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It's about ten hours.
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They're going to answer
10 to 12 in-depth
essay questions,
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participate in 12 different
oral examinations.
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They're going to undertake
eight different tasting
exam panels.
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We expect a master cicerone
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to have the technical skills
and knowledge
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to be considered
a professional peer,
a master brewer.
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We also expect that
master cicerone
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to have the ability
to speak with consumers
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at a level that consumers
can understand and relate to.
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You need to be
very knowledgeable about beers,
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beer style, beer-tasting,
off flavors,
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brewing, draft systems,
beer and food.
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RAY: The fact that it's hard
to be a part of the group,
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of that elite group
that can call themselves
a master cicerone...
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[INDISTINCT CHATTER]
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The goal for me is
the goal that's been there
since the day...
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My second year of law school
I figured out I didn't
wanna be a lawyer anymore.
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And that is to continue
down the path one more step,
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and if I make that next step
and it goes right,
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I'm going to continue
on the next step.
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I'm cutting right down to it.
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I've got two goals here.
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I need to both,
finish the business plan as the founder of Drew's Brews,
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and really coalesce it
into something
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that is absolutely proper
to hand to an investor.
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And the reason why
that's important,
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is 'cause I'm planning
on handing it to somebody.
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I found somebody
who is interested
in at least hearing the pitch,
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at least seeing
the business plan.
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On the flip side,
I'm playing student.
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I need to get an internship.
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So I need to both, be a lawyer
for the federal judiciary,
[LAUGHS]
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and an intern,
cleaning kegs and barrels.
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And then, on top of it,
be the founder of a company,
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be a start-up entrepreneur,
for lack of a better word,
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and convincing that investor
that what I have
is what they want.
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And I need this
to be the real deal
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because this could be
make-or-break
for the rest of my life.
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♪ When you say "Bud"
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♪ You've said a lot of things
Nobody else can say ♪
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♪ When you say "Bud"
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♪ You've gone as far as you
Can go to get the very best ♪
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I think we need to step back
30, 40 years ago,
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when the whole new-age beer
revolution started in the US.
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That's when all the big
global players started
coming in,
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producing "golden lagers"
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with very little taste,
a lot of CO2.
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Basically produced
to be only refreshing.
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The whole marketing campaigns,
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where the folks sing
more about what's
behind the beer
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rather than
what's in the glass.
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♪ My beer is Rheingold
The dry beer ♪
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♪ Rocky mountain high
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♪ Make it yours
Make it Coors ♪
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♪ Make it yours
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♪ Schmidt's
One beautiful beer ♪
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Schmidt's, you're beautiful.
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ANNOUNCER: Lite beer
for Miller.
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Everything you always
wanted in a beer. And less.
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ANNOUNCER: Just tell 'em,
"Gimme a Dixie."
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They often have a tagline
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that kind of explains what
they want you to be thought of.
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You know, a lot of people think
Billy and I argue all the time.
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Actually, we agree
on just about everything.
Right, Bill?
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You bet you, George.
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We even drink the same beer.
Lite beer for Miller.
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Excuse me.
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I'm not the same crazy coach
who used to storm around
the sidelines,
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yelling at the officials,
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I have learned to relax,
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and I drink Lite beer
for Miller.
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No wonder
you don't get no respect.
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I tell you,
I don't deserve no respect.
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♪ When you say
Budweiser ♪
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♪ You've said it all
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HOLL: In the US,
in the mid-1970s,
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beer was a large,
mass-produced food item
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that had no, you know,
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didn't have a bunch
of flavor to it.
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It had talent
behind it, certainly,
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but there wasn't a lot
of inventiveness
that was happening.
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And there's a guy
named Jack McAuliffe
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who was a naval engineer,
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worked at US subs
over in the UK,
toured around the globe.
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JIM: England had
a homebrewing tradition,
and so exposed to that,
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decided to start a brewery
in Sonoma, California,
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and make a pale ale.
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HOLL: He found
old dairy equipment,
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old stainless steel,
cobbled it together,
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welded it together,
and created a brewery,
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got a brewery license,
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and started brewing
about four barrels of beer
at a time.
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His beer was called
New Albion,
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and it was the defining
American craft ale.
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And where he was in California,
he attracted a lot of attention.
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00:22:00,974 --> 00:22:03,460
The Washington Post came out,
The New York Times came out.
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Educators from University
of California, Davis,
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that has a brewing school,
came out,
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saw what Jack was doing
and realized
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that they had to change
their curriculum,
'cause up until that point,
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they were basically
training brewers
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to go work in large
commercial breweries
around the world.
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And now they realized
that you could have these
small breweries
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that are no bigger than
this apartment right here
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where people could
actually, uh, make beer.
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He was in business
for eight years
before he went bankrupt.
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00:22:28,795 --> 00:22:33,628
But he at least demonstrated
that, "Hey, you can start
a brewery."
445
00:22:33,662 --> 00:22:35,077
Which was a weird idea.
446
00:22:35,112 --> 00:22:38,840
Homebrewing was legalized
by Jimmy Carter in 1976.
447
00:22:38,874 --> 00:22:41,118
I guess after prohibition,
they had, sort of,
448
00:22:41,152 --> 00:22:44,811
forgotten about legalizing it
along with legalizing
home wine-making.
449
00:22:44,846 --> 00:22:46,675
Then the flood gates
were open,
450
00:22:46,710 --> 00:22:50,230
and people started providing
information and support
for brewers and clubs,
451
00:22:50,265 --> 00:22:54,545
and so you started
to see these little
communities nucleate
452
00:22:54,580 --> 00:22:56,236
around the homebrewing shops.
453
00:22:56,271 --> 00:22:59,930
It's kind of the...
the place where
all the people revolved around,
454
00:22:59,964 --> 00:23:02,657
and it was really
the beginning of
all of the communities
455
00:23:02,691 --> 00:23:04,762
that eventually turned
into craft beer.
456
00:23:07,662 --> 00:23:10,216
Are we stacking these?
Are we going for like,
the cool disheveled look?
457
00:23:10,250 --> 00:23:12,321
-Like, "I woke out of bed."
-Like I don't even care.
458
00:23:12,356 --> 00:23:14,116
I made my hair look like this.
[LAUGHS]
459
00:23:14,151 --> 00:23:16,015
[IN HIGH-PITCHED VOICE]
I woke up like this.
460
00:23:16,049 --> 00:23:17,499
[CHUCKLING]
461
00:23:19,156 --> 00:23:21,434
BRIAN: The smooth pour,
the mliko pour.
462
00:23:21,469 --> 00:23:24,299
So the crisp pour,
more gas, intentionally,
463
00:23:24,333 --> 00:23:27,820
and the side pour faucet
allows you to control
the amount of gas
464
00:23:27,854 --> 00:23:29,304
that stays in the solution.
465
00:23:29,338 --> 00:23:33,204
So, when you open it wide open
and it's pouring bright beer,
466
00:23:33,239 --> 00:23:35,724
and you pour that
from the beginning to the top,
467
00:23:35,759 --> 00:23:37,416
and then you pour
a foam on top,
468
00:23:37,450 --> 00:23:40,453
you have all this beer
below it that is
chock-full of gas.
469
00:23:40,488 --> 00:23:41,661
It's a different beer.
470
00:23:41,696 --> 00:23:43,214
It's a different beer
for a different occasion.
471
00:23:50,083 --> 00:23:53,501
Uh, we've got seven courses
for you guys tonight,
472
00:23:53,535 --> 00:23:56,918
and, uh, so it's a full
beer dinner
that we're doing here.
473
00:23:56,952 --> 00:24:01,094
So what we have is a polenta.
474
00:24:01,129 --> 00:24:04,443
that's gonna compliment
the inherent malt
sweetness of this beer.
475
00:24:04,477 --> 00:24:07,480
So this German pilsner,
it's got that hop character
to it.
476
00:24:07,515 --> 00:24:09,171
It's dry, it's got
a lingering bitterness
477
00:24:09,206 --> 00:24:10,863
that's gonna cut through
any type of richness
478
00:24:10,897 --> 00:24:14,211
from that kinda unctuous,
uh, chicken broth.
479
00:24:14,245 --> 00:24:16,006
[INDISTINCT CHATTER]
480
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:17,904
JASON: I would say that
The Great American
Beer Festival,
481
00:24:17,939 --> 00:24:20,528
is kinda like the Super Bowl,
I guess, in the brewing
industry every year.
482
00:24:20,562 --> 00:24:22,150
People come in,
your beers are judged.
483
00:24:22,184 --> 00:24:23,876
It's a competition,
but at the same time,
484
00:24:23,910 --> 00:24:26,188
it's just a celebration
of all things beer.
485
00:24:26,223 --> 00:24:27,845
BRIAN: When people say,
"What do you do?"
486
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,572
I hesitate to tell them
flat out
487
00:24:30,607 --> 00:24:33,610
that I drink and talk
about beer for a living,
488
00:24:33,644 --> 00:24:35,957
because it sounds
a little ridiculous,
489
00:24:35,991 --> 00:24:37,027
and I, you know,
490
00:24:37,061 --> 00:24:39,443
it sounds like kind of
a humble brag, I guess.
491
00:24:39,478 --> 00:24:42,411
But, like, really,
that's a huge part
of what you do,
492
00:24:42,446 --> 00:24:44,793
is talk to people about beer.
493
00:24:44,828 --> 00:24:46,933
Like, get them excited
about beer.
494
00:24:55,563 --> 00:24:58,531
I went to college for geology.
I love science.
495
00:24:58,566 --> 00:25:01,016
I didn't know what I wanted
to do when I got out
of college.
496
00:25:01,051 --> 00:25:03,156
I called a buddy I knew
and said,
497
00:25:03,191 --> 00:25:04,744
"I need a job.
I'll do anything.
498
00:25:04,779 --> 00:25:07,264
Just something to tide me over while I apply to grad school."
499
00:25:07,298 --> 00:25:10,267
Uh, and he said, "Well,
I'm working at this
little local brewery,
500
00:25:10,301 --> 00:25:14,064
and my boss today just said
we needed a keg washer
part-time."
501
00:25:14,098 --> 00:25:19,379
It was the first time I'd seen a trade or a business
or an occupation
502
00:25:19,414 --> 00:25:23,763
that combined everything
that I wanted to have
in a career.
503
00:25:23,798 --> 00:25:26,110
So that was science, of course.
504
00:25:26,145 --> 00:25:27,698
Right when you walk
into a brewery,
505
00:25:27,733 --> 00:25:30,667
you see there's a big
science component
to brewing beer.
506
00:25:30,701 --> 00:25:32,600
A mechanical side.
507
00:25:32,634 --> 00:25:37,570
I love working with my hands, and there was pipes everywhere and electrical stuff.
508
00:25:37,605 --> 00:25:39,296
And then the art side of it.
509
00:25:39,330 --> 00:25:43,818
There's, of course,
a big creative component
to making beer,
510
00:25:43,852 --> 00:25:45,267
with recipe formulations.
511
00:25:45,302 --> 00:25:48,063
And I saw, just in two days
of working there,
512
00:25:48,098 --> 00:25:50,341
I was immediately
in love with it.
513
00:25:50,376 --> 00:25:55,070
So I moved over here
and I started
in this space here,
514
00:25:55,105 --> 00:25:57,970
but just try to keep it
extremely simple,
515
00:25:58,004 --> 00:26:02,561
and just brewed one beer,
Allagash White, draft only,
516
00:26:02,595 --> 00:26:04,148
just for the local market.
517
00:26:04,183 --> 00:26:08,049
Really,
for the first few years,
even in those accounts,
518
00:26:08,083 --> 00:26:10,016
that were willing
to take a chance on us.
519
00:26:10,051 --> 00:26:12,950
I was lucky
they were loyal to us,
'cause the beer didn't sell.
520
00:26:19,232 --> 00:26:22,684
I got started in beer
by being born, [CHUCKLES SOFTLY]
521
00:26:22,719 --> 00:26:27,586
uh, because I was born to
a family of brewers.
522
00:26:27,620 --> 00:26:32,038
As the sixth oldest son
in a row,
523
00:26:32,073 --> 00:26:33,868
destined to become a brewer.
524
00:26:33,902 --> 00:26:38,355
I grew up in Cincinnati,
which, when I was growing up,
525
00:26:38,389 --> 00:26:42,842
had one of the best
beer cultures
in the United States.
526
00:26:42,877 --> 00:26:45,293
I was lucky when I started
527
00:26:45,327 --> 00:26:49,642
because, uh, I had
a couple advantages.
528
00:26:49,677 --> 00:26:51,575
I didn't really have any money,
529
00:26:51,610 --> 00:26:54,578
um, and nobody wanted my beer.
530
00:26:54,613 --> 00:26:57,616
So, I didn't really
overthink it.
531
00:26:57,650 --> 00:27:00,101
I just said,
"Okay, I'm gonna...
532
00:27:00,135 --> 00:27:02,897
First, I'm gonna
make the beer."
533
00:27:02,931 --> 00:27:06,176
I need a recipe.
My dad took me
up in the attic.
534
00:27:06,210 --> 00:27:08,523
He gave me
these yellowed sheets
535
00:27:08,557 --> 00:27:14,080
that had the family recipe
from the Louis Koch Brewery.
536
00:27:14,115 --> 00:27:15,392
I started making it at home,
537
00:27:15,426 --> 00:27:17,808
'cause I'd homebrewed,
I knew how to make beer.
538
00:27:17,843 --> 00:27:22,986
And then I scaled it up
by finding existing brewery
539
00:27:23,020 --> 00:27:26,334
that had traditional equipment that would allow me to come in
540
00:27:26,368 --> 00:27:27,991
and make my beer.
541
00:27:28,025 --> 00:27:30,200
So I thought, "Okay,
now I've got this beer."
542
00:27:30,234 --> 00:27:33,686
At the time, I didn't have
enough money for six packs.
543
00:27:33,721 --> 00:27:35,723
All I had were loose cases
of beer,
544
00:27:35,757 --> 00:27:38,760
so I couldn't sell
in stores of any kind,
545
00:27:38,795 --> 00:27:41,625
I could only sell
to bars and restaurants.
546
00:27:41,660 --> 00:27:44,145
Um, but, you know,
that was what it was.
547
00:27:44,179 --> 00:27:48,667
So, uh, and there were five
beer distributors in Boston.
548
00:27:48,701 --> 00:27:50,047
They all turned me down.
549
00:27:50,082 --> 00:27:51,911
And I thought, "Well,
I don't have a choice.
550
00:27:51,946 --> 00:27:55,156
I'm gonna go from bar
to bar with my beer,
551
00:27:55,190 --> 00:27:58,953
and I'm gonna get people
to taste it,
552
00:27:58,987 --> 00:28:01,300
and somebody's gonna take it."
553
00:28:12,552 --> 00:28:15,797
VACLAV: I'm brewmaster
of Pilsner Urquell Beer.
554
00:28:15,832 --> 00:28:17,316
I'm lucky man,
555
00:28:17,350 --> 00:28:20,560
uh, because I was born
in the city
556
00:28:20,595 --> 00:28:22,562
where was born the beer,
557
00:28:22,597 --> 00:28:27,015
uh, which gives to the world
name for beer, "Pilsner."
558
00:28:27,050 --> 00:28:29,604
My father, in third generation,
559
00:28:29,638 --> 00:28:31,882
lots of Berka boys here as well.
560
00:28:31,917 --> 00:28:35,161
And I visited old department
with him,
561
00:28:35,196 --> 00:28:38,509
and I trained, of course,
uh, every single...
562
00:28:38,544 --> 00:28:41,547
what is necessary to do
for brewing a good beer.
563
00:28:41,581 --> 00:28:46,448
And it led to this,
on the end of this practice,
564
00:28:46,483 --> 00:28:50,590
I was able to brew
my private brew
of Pilsner Urquell.
565
00:28:58,460 --> 00:29:00,497
GARRETT: I am from,
originally, Queens, New York,
566
00:29:00,531 --> 00:29:03,155
but I've been a Brooklynite
for a great many years.
567
00:29:03,189 --> 00:29:04,777
We drank beer in college,
568
00:29:04,812 --> 00:29:07,676
but the sort of secret
was we didn't like it.
569
00:29:07,711 --> 00:29:08,885
We didn't actually like it.
570
00:29:08,919 --> 00:29:11,508
It was just there,
like everything else,
571
00:29:11,542 --> 00:29:15,443
like Kamikazes,
and, uh, and White Russians.
572
00:29:15,477 --> 00:29:18,446
It was just another thing
that you could drink.
573
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:19,619
And to tell you the truth,
574
00:29:19,654 --> 00:29:23,382
we drank...
we drank Budweiser
when he had money.
575
00:29:23,416 --> 00:29:27,351
I didn't really start thinking about beer differently
until I got to England.
576
00:29:27,386 --> 00:29:28,905
I'm like,
"I'm going to the pub."
577
00:29:28,939 --> 00:29:32,978
And I discovered that beer
could be beautiful.
578
00:29:33,012 --> 00:29:34,876
And it was
a complete revelation.
579
00:29:34,911 --> 00:29:38,466
And homebrewing was,
at first, a necessity.
580
00:29:38,500 --> 00:29:42,021
It was the only way
to get the beer
that I wanted to drink.
581
00:29:42,056 --> 00:29:44,610
And I wasn't actually
interested in doing it.
582
00:29:44,644 --> 00:29:47,682
And then I kind of fell in love with the process,
583
00:29:47,716 --> 00:29:48,959
and the camaraderie,
584
00:29:48,994 --> 00:29:51,686
and the clubs that would
grow up around it.
585
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,412
And at the time, I had a job,
586
00:29:53,446 --> 00:29:55,863
and it was a well-payed
cushy job.
587
00:29:55,897 --> 00:30:00,281
You know, I was actually
working in a law office
at that point.
588
00:30:00,315 --> 00:30:02,973
When I took the job
at Manhattan Brewing Company,
589
00:30:03,008 --> 00:30:05,286
my income fell by 75%,
590
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,496
and I was in a room
full of boiling liquid
in the middle of July
591
00:30:08,530 --> 00:30:09,738
with no air conditioning.
592
00:30:09,773 --> 00:30:11,188
[CHUCKLES] And I was in there
saying to myself,
593
00:30:11,223 --> 00:30:16,504
"I have a degree, and I was
being paid really well.
594
00:30:16,538 --> 00:30:17,885
I was saving money.
595
00:30:17,919 --> 00:30:19,265
And now, I'm a plumber."
596
00:30:19,300 --> 00:30:22,027
I'm not even a good plumber
who's being paid well,
597
00:30:22,061 --> 00:30:24,995
like, I'm a dog's
buddy plumber.
598
00:30:25,030 --> 00:30:26,859
Um, "What have I done?"
599
00:30:26,894 --> 00:30:30,725
And I think that everybody
probably has that moment
that you have to recover from.
600
00:30:30,759 --> 00:30:33,072
I'm sure it's the same
for every professional chef.
601
00:30:33,107 --> 00:30:37,559
It's like you're gonna end up
in the kitchen, and it's,
you know, [LAUGHS]
602
00:30:37,594 --> 00:30:38,940
it's a ghastly place.
603
00:30:38,975 --> 00:30:40,562
You better fall in love with it.
604
00:30:40,597 --> 00:30:41,770
[MACHINE HISSING]
605
00:30:41,805 --> 00:30:43,117
DREW: All right.
606
00:30:43,151 --> 00:30:45,015
[INDISTINCT CONVERSATION]
607
00:30:45,050 --> 00:30:46,603
-Hey, guys.
-Hey.
608
00:30:46,637 --> 00:30:48,191
-Here to work.
-Cool.
609
00:30:51,919 --> 00:30:55,301
So it's a little nerve-wracking
starting any first job,
internship,
610
00:30:55,336 --> 00:30:56,924
showing up
as the new guy anywhere,
611
00:30:56,958 --> 00:31:00,272
but, you know,
within the first 15 minutes,
612
00:31:00,306 --> 00:31:02,343
I got back to what
I know I do best,
613
00:31:02,377 --> 00:31:04,276
which is cleaning stuff.
[LAUGHS]
614
00:31:04,310 --> 00:31:06,036
Which is exactly
what I was told,
615
00:31:06,071 --> 00:31:09,039
"If you wanna brew,
this is what you gotta do."
616
00:31:09,074 --> 00:31:14,079
So, uh, it's a pleasant surprise
to see that it's right in line
with what I was hoping for.
617
00:31:14,113 --> 00:31:17,151
This pump spins this direction
and starts on this side.
618
00:31:17,185 --> 00:31:19,878
That's straight-up science.
That makes total sense.
619
00:31:19,912 --> 00:31:22,742
So you can look at any pump
and tell what way
it's supposed to...
620
00:31:22,777 --> 00:31:24,054
That's super awesome.
621
00:31:42,141 --> 00:31:43,625
Dropped the gaskets.
622
00:31:45,041 --> 00:31:46,732
Oh, yeah,
I gave you the tricky one.
623
00:31:46,766 --> 00:31:49,045
So, because this pump is huge,
it's really heavy
and it's hard to line up.
624
00:31:49,079 --> 00:31:51,910
-So that's how it goes.
-I was just watching him,
if that's all right.
625
00:31:51,944 --> 00:31:53,773
-No, that's all right.
-[BOTH CHUCKLE]
626
00:31:54,982 --> 00:31:57,950
I mean, if anything, I will...
627
00:31:57,985 --> 00:32:00,297
This would jog my memory
more than anything else.
628
00:32:00,332 --> 00:32:02,541
I probably won't be able
to remember the silly laws
629
00:32:02,575 --> 00:32:04,923
and regulations
that I was talking
about yesterday,
630
00:32:04,957 --> 00:32:07,166
but I certainly
will remember this.
631
00:32:07,201 --> 00:32:08,650
[FUNKY MUSIC PLAYING]
632
00:32:16,003 --> 00:32:18,108
I knew I wanted
to have my own business,
633
00:32:18,143 --> 00:32:20,179
but I didn't know what
I wanted it to be.
634
00:32:20,214 --> 00:32:22,250
And that's when
I discovered beer.
635
00:32:22,285 --> 00:32:24,804
It was everything
that I was looking for.
636
00:32:24,839 --> 00:32:26,634
When I graduated college,
637
00:32:26,668 --> 00:32:31,880
I immediately got a job
at the local homebrew shop
638
00:32:31,915 --> 00:32:34,331
because I just
wanted to make beer.
639
00:32:34,366 --> 00:32:37,541
And it was, you know,
I made $5 an hour.
640
00:32:37,576 --> 00:32:40,889
Once I could afford a car, that's it, I moved to Vermont.
641
00:32:40,924 --> 00:32:42,753
I wanted to work
for Greg Noonan,
642
00:32:42,788 --> 00:32:45,653
who owned the Vermont Pub
and Brewery up in Burlington.
643
00:32:45,687 --> 00:32:50,209
He was a very
well-known pioneer
in the craft beer industry.
644
00:32:50,244 --> 00:32:51,797
I introduced myself
to him and said,
645
00:32:51,831 --> 00:32:54,869
"Everything I own
is in that car.
I wanna work for you.
646
00:32:54,903 --> 00:32:57,837
I want you to teach me
how to make beer, and I'll do
whatever job you give me
647
00:32:57,872 --> 00:32:59,632
if I can do that."
648
00:32:59,667 --> 00:33:02,946
So he made me a waiter,
and I waited tables
for a year, and worked for free
649
00:33:02,981 --> 00:33:04,672
on my days off in the brewery
650
00:33:04,706 --> 00:33:07,330
until he made me
the head brewer at
the Vermont Pub and Brewery.
651
00:33:07,364 --> 00:33:09,746
I was 24.
That's where Jen and I met.
652
00:33:09,780 --> 00:33:13,198
She was into beer,
she was into
the restaurant business.
653
00:33:13,232 --> 00:33:15,165
She was very driven as well,
654
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,305
and we were just
a perfect match.
655
00:33:17,340 --> 00:33:20,757
We packed up the car
and we just drove to Jackson.
656
00:33:20,791 --> 00:33:25,417
There was a local brewery
that was looking for a brewer,
and I got that job.
657
00:33:25,451 --> 00:33:28,696
They were called
Otto Brothers Brewing
in Wilson, Wyoming.
658
00:33:28,730 --> 00:33:31,664
So I redesigned
all of their beers,
659
00:33:31,699 --> 00:33:33,632
created these recipes,
660
00:33:33,666 --> 00:33:35,772
set up the brewery,
got it all up and running.
661
00:33:35,806 --> 00:33:38,913
Jen was also working for them
setting up a restaurant.
662
00:33:38,947 --> 00:33:40,259
So we were going to school.
663
00:33:40,294 --> 00:33:43,124
We're getting paid to do
what we wanted to do someday,
664
00:33:43,159 --> 00:33:44,608
so it was an amazing experience.
665
00:33:44,643 --> 00:33:48,854
But, so we quickly realized
that we gotta get out of here,
666
00:33:48,888 --> 00:33:51,995
because you're either here
for a couple of years
or you're here.
667
00:33:52,030 --> 00:33:53,514
And, so that was it.
668
00:33:53,548 --> 00:33:55,378
We decided we're
going back to Vermont.
669
00:33:55,412 --> 00:33:58,588
Constantly, if we went out, we were looking at restaurants.
670
00:33:58,622 --> 00:34:00,210
We're thinking
about what they did,
671
00:34:00,245 --> 00:34:02,109
what they did right,
what they did wrong,
672
00:34:02,143 --> 00:34:07,769
all the while writing our plan,
refining our plan, saving money,
more than anything,
673
00:34:07,804 --> 00:34:11,532
until we found the exact,
perfect place for our pub,
674
00:34:11,566 --> 00:34:13,016
and then we just went for it.
675
00:34:13,051 --> 00:34:17,331
And when we opened that pub, we had 50 bucks in our account.
676
00:34:17,365 --> 00:34:19,333
We were broker than broke.
677
00:34:19,367 --> 00:34:21,887
And if we weren't busy,
that was it, we were done.
678
00:34:35,314 --> 00:34:37,420
I grew up
in Western Massachusetts,
679
00:34:37,454 --> 00:34:39,318
a little town called
Greenfield, Massachusetts.
680
00:34:39,353 --> 00:34:43,150
I went to high school
that was a boarding school called Northfield Mount Hermon.
681
00:34:43,184 --> 00:34:44,392
I grew up down the road
from it.
682
00:34:44,427 --> 00:34:45,842
So after
Northfield Mount Hermon,
683
00:34:45,876 --> 00:34:48,534
I went to Muhlenberg College
down at Pennsylvania,
684
00:34:48,569 --> 00:34:50,018
a little division-three school.
685
00:34:50,053 --> 00:34:52,159
And the day after I graduate,
I moved to New York City,
686
00:34:52,193 --> 00:34:55,403
and then that coincided
in the moment that
I started homebrewing.
687
00:34:55,438 --> 00:34:58,303
We were running a house
in 26th and 7th.
688
00:34:58,337 --> 00:35:01,133
My roommates were a bunch
of actors at the time,
689
00:35:01,168 --> 00:35:06,069
and I was in their apartment
that night when I first put
my homebrew on the coffee table.
690
00:35:06,104 --> 00:35:08,796
It was a pale ale,
and on my way home
from the homebrew store,
691
00:35:08,830 --> 00:35:11,419
there were some kind of
rotting cherries at a bodega.
692
00:35:11,454 --> 00:35:13,249
I was like, "Fuck,
I'll buy those,
add them, too."
693
00:35:13,283 --> 00:35:16,390
Squished them into the beer,
three weeks later,
I premiered it.
694
00:35:16,424 --> 00:35:18,219
It tasted really, really good.
695
00:35:18,254 --> 00:35:20,118
I stood up
on my coffee table and said,
696
00:35:20,152 --> 00:35:21,429
"This is what I'm gonna do
with my life."
697
00:35:21,464 --> 00:35:23,500
But my next two batches sucked.
698
00:35:23,535 --> 00:35:26,296
Then I would work at night, wake up hungover the next day,
699
00:35:26,331 --> 00:35:28,574
walk to
the New York City Library,
700
00:35:28,609 --> 00:35:30,024
and while doing that research
701
00:35:30,058 --> 00:35:33,027
is when I came across
the term"Reinheitsgebot,"
702
00:35:33,061 --> 00:35:37,169
which is the Bavarian beer
purity act of 1516,
703
00:35:37,204 --> 00:35:40,448
mandated that beer can
only be made with water,
hops and barley.
704
00:35:40,483 --> 00:35:43,348
And that's when I said,
"Okay, that's what I want
705
00:35:43,382 --> 00:35:46,696
Dogfish to stand for
and against."
706
00:35:46,730 --> 00:35:50,251
Initially, it was my folks
put in, I think, 25 grand.
707
00:35:50,286 --> 00:35:54,876
My orthodontist put in,
I think, 35 or 50.
708
00:35:54,911 --> 00:35:58,501
And then, a guy built
a stone wall for us, Andrew.
709
00:35:58,535 --> 00:36:00,261
uh, put in, I think, 50.
710
00:36:00,296 --> 00:36:02,090
It was successful
from the get-go.
711
00:36:02,125 --> 00:36:05,715
'95 we opened,
we were in the black
within one year.
712
00:36:05,749 --> 00:36:08,649
And then, so, '96 or '97,
two years into it,
713
00:36:08,683 --> 00:36:11,134
we opened a separate
production facility
714
00:36:11,169 --> 00:36:14,448
maybe four miles away
form the beach where
land was a lot cheaper,
715
00:36:14,482 --> 00:36:15,725
so that it could grow.
716
00:36:15,759 --> 00:36:18,106
The moment we opened
our production brewery
717
00:36:18,141 --> 00:36:22,421
coincided with that first
shakeout era of craft beer.
718
00:36:22,456 --> 00:36:24,872
All right, time to start
the brew day.
719
00:36:27,737 --> 00:36:28,841
[SIGHS]
720
00:36:34,537 --> 00:36:37,333
The whole room, you're gonna
get a sweet barley smell
721
00:36:37,367 --> 00:36:39,231
throughout the entire
mashing process.
722
00:36:39,266 --> 00:36:44,063
While I'm doing that,
I'm gonna start
setting up my hops.
723
00:36:44,098 --> 00:36:48,033
There's something
oddly satisfying about
putting your thermometer
724
00:36:48,067 --> 00:36:49,621
through each portion
of the work,
725
00:36:49,655 --> 00:36:55,454
and every single reading
coming out at 152.1, .2.
726
00:36:55,489 --> 00:36:58,561
[EXHALES] The nerd in me
has never been so satisfied.
727
00:37:03,704 --> 00:37:06,500
I love the creative process,
I love working with my hands.
728
00:37:06,534 --> 00:37:09,227
Classically, there's just
four ingredients,
729
00:37:09,261 --> 00:37:11,781
water, malted barley,
hops and yeast,
730
00:37:11,815 --> 00:37:14,404
that you can combine
in endless combinations
731
00:37:14,439 --> 00:37:17,269
to produce really an infinite
number of flavors.
732
00:37:17,304 --> 00:37:20,272
Beer is, the idea comes first,
733
00:37:20,307 --> 00:37:21,963
and it's in your head,
734
00:37:21,998 --> 00:37:27,279
and then, you create
out of the things that
you gather from elsewhere.
735
00:37:27,314 --> 00:37:29,281
So brewing is much
more like music.
736
00:37:29,316 --> 00:37:33,941
And in that, I always
like to say that it is
much more human.
737
00:37:33,975 --> 00:37:38,601
KIMMICH: I love the smell,
the process of making it
and creating it,
738
00:37:38,635 --> 00:37:40,430
and the artistic freedom.
739
00:37:40,465 --> 00:37:41,914
SAM: Beer is liquid food.
740
00:37:41,949 --> 00:37:46,367
There's no reason you can't be as limitless and dynamic
741
00:37:46,402 --> 00:37:49,197
with your recipe and choices
on a beer recipe,
742
00:37:49,232 --> 00:37:52,442
as you would for an entree
on a plate.
743
00:37:52,477 --> 00:37:55,652
RAY: Well, any artist,
you know, you need to
play with your materials.
744
00:37:55,687 --> 00:37:59,484
You need to do things
that don't have as their focus
745
00:37:59,518 --> 00:38:02,694
a polished, fine,
finished product,
746
00:38:02,728 --> 00:38:05,006
but more something
you're kinda messing around with
747
00:38:05,041 --> 00:38:06,249
to see how it will turn out.
748
00:38:06,284 --> 00:38:07,871
Every time you do this,
749
00:38:07,906 --> 00:38:10,115
you learn something
a little bit different,
a little better.
750
00:38:13,118 --> 00:38:14,947
Putting ingredients together
751
00:38:14,982 --> 00:38:17,571
and just sort of
transform into something,
752
00:38:17,605 --> 00:38:21,022
there's just sort of
a magical thing to it.
753
00:38:31,999 --> 00:38:35,554
The whole goal here
is that, a huge part of
the Cicerone exam,
754
00:38:35,589 --> 00:38:37,522
or the Master Cicerone exam,
in particular,
755
00:38:37,556 --> 00:38:39,903
is about describing flavor.
756
00:38:39,938 --> 00:38:41,836
This gives you a chance
to describe flavors
757
00:38:41,871 --> 00:38:43,804
in a setting that's
a little bit abnormal,
758
00:38:43,838 --> 00:38:45,046
a little bit outside of beer.
759
00:38:49,465 --> 00:38:52,778
[CHUCKLING] We're gonna have
some fun with some of
these BeanBoozled jelly beans.
760
00:38:52,813 --> 00:38:55,471
Monday is either
toothpaste or berry blue.
761
00:38:55,505 --> 00:38:59,371
Tuesday is going to be
either barf or peach.
762
00:38:59,406 --> 00:39:02,201
If you can't have a little fun
with this stuff, then what
are you doing it for?
763
00:39:06,551 --> 00:39:08,449
A huge part of the exams
coming up
764
00:39:08,484 --> 00:39:12,833
is gonna be just being able
to understand or diagnose
the flavor of anything,
765
00:39:12,867 --> 00:39:13,834
whatever it is.
766
00:39:13,868 --> 00:39:17,009
So, um, [CHUCKLING]
what we're gonna do
767
00:39:17,044 --> 00:39:20,772
is actually have you guys taste
some jelly beans, all right?
768
00:39:20,806 --> 00:39:23,395
Try to figure out
what flavor of jelly bean
you're dealing with,
769
00:39:23,430 --> 00:39:26,640
um, and at the end,
we'll kind talk about
what jelly beans are which
770
00:39:26,674 --> 00:39:27,779
and go from there.
771
00:39:55,082 --> 00:39:55,979
I...
772
00:39:58,050 --> 00:39:59,707
-Oh.
-[JASON LAUGHING]
773
00:40:03,401 --> 00:40:04,816
Oh, it's defining--
774
00:40:04,850 --> 00:40:06,887
Hey,
it's describing flavor, man.
775
00:40:08,785 --> 00:40:10,097
I don't know, it's gross.
776
00:40:18,485 --> 00:40:20,383
It tastes like garbage.
777
00:40:20,418 --> 00:40:24,318
-Garbage, sulfur... God.
-[JASON CHUCKLING]
778
00:40:29,910 --> 00:40:31,152
JASON: Ready?
779
00:40:31,187 --> 00:40:32,878
All right. Here we go.
780
00:40:32,913 --> 00:40:34,501
So let's start with Sunday.
781
00:40:34,535 --> 00:40:36,054
-Yeah, yeah.
-What'd you get for that?
782
00:40:36,088 --> 00:40:40,058
I said pear,
perfumy floral palm fruit.
783
00:40:40,092 --> 00:40:42,025
Okay. Okay, Thursday.
784
00:40:42,060 --> 00:40:43,786
I said burnt popcorn,
785
00:40:43,820 --> 00:40:47,617
toasted sesame, sesame oil,
toasted peanut.
786
00:40:47,652 --> 00:40:51,379
WOMAN: Mine was like chocolate
with milky...
It was kinda creamy.
787
00:40:51,414 --> 00:40:53,416
So you got chocolate pudding.
788
00:40:53,451 --> 00:40:56,177
[LAUGHS] That's what
it was like.
789
00:40:56,212 --> 00:40:58,421
[LAUGHING] You got one.
790
00:40:58,456 --> 00:40:59,940
BRIAN: You're a real asshole.
791
00:40:59,974 --> 00:41:01,389
[LAUGHING]
792
00:41:01,424 --> 00:41:03,012
It was canned dog food.
793
00:41:03,046 --> 00:41:05,221
[WOMAN LAUGHING]
794
00:41:07,016 --> 00:41:10,295
Okay, and then,
finally, Saturday.
795
00:41:10,329 --> 00:41:16,025
Um, I said bright tropical
fruit, coconut, pineapple,
pina colada, suntan lotion.
796
00:41:16,059 --> 00:41:16,991
[BOTH LAUGHING]
797
00:41:17,026 --> 00:41:18,648
-Yeah, that's pineapple.
-Cool.
798
00:41:19,580 --> 00:41:21,479
I swear I thought
I had coconut.
799
00:41:21,513 --> 00:41:22,549
I think that's a...
800
00:41:22,583 --> 00:41:23,895
I think it was
the suntan lotion.
801
00:41:23,929 --> 00:41:26,173
Yeah, there's a pina colada
jelly bean, too, I think.
802
00:41:26,207 --> 00:41:27,485
But yeah, this was...
803
00:41:27,519 --> 00:41:29,763
Yeah, it was like
crushed pineapple
or something like that.
804
00:41:36,252 --> 00:41:40,152
DREW: Brewdies are the local
south Brooklyn
homebrew club
805
00:41:40,187 --> 00:41:42,638
that we meet
at a local bar around here.
806
00:41:42,672 --> 00:41:44,467
So the beer
I'm bringing with me
807
00:41:44,502 --> 00:41:47,815
is gonna be
cucumber mint pilsner.
808
00:41:49,161 --> 00:41:52,268
Is this from the barrel
over at Greenpoint?
809
00:41:53,303 --> 00:41:54,270
MAN: Yes.
810
00:41:54,304 --> 00:41:55,720
Ah, this is the one
that you guys pulled up?
811
00:41:55,754 --> 00:41:57,722
Oh, cool. I'm excited
to try that.
812
00:41:57,756 --> 00:41:59,447
-But then, nobody here put in...
-No?
813
00:41:59,482 --> 00:42:02,485
-Well, I did, but I competed...
-MAN 2: You're fine.
814
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,763
The worst error. The worst.
815
00:42:04,798 --> 00:42:07,490
I put in, like,
four gallons instead of five.
816
00:42:07,525 --> 00:42:09,250
[INDISTINCT CHATTER]
817
00:42:10,493 --> 00:42:12,875
I had nightmares
for months afterwards.
818
00:42:12,909 --> 00:42:14,324
MAN 3: You want me
to try your beers?
819
00:42:14,359 --> 00:42:17,742
Yeah, I guess so. Yeah.
I think we're all ready.
820
00:42:19,882 --> 00:42:21,366
[INDISTINCT CHATTER]
821
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,402
DREW: Yeah, you don't want
too much, you know.
822
00:42:24,611 --> 00:42:26,923
Um, what's the base mint?
823
00:42:27,648 --> 00:42:28,925
Um, it's a pilsner.
824
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:30,271
So that's the biggest problem,
825
00:42:30,306 --> 00:42:34,275
is I can't hide anything
behind a pilsner, you know?
826
00:42:34,310 --> 00:42:38,141
I think some dry mint
or something like...
827
00:42:38,176 --> 00:42:39,902
-Oh, that's interesting.
-Something like that,
828
00:42:39,936 --> 00:42:43,353
like, you'll still get a ton
of mint character without
a lot of the green mint.
829
00:42:43,388 --> 00:42:45,528
Yeah, because it's
been dried out.
Ah, I wonder.
830
00:42:45,563 --> 00:42:46,840
It's kind of overwhelming.
831
00:42:46,874 --> 00:42:49,877
-Yeah, it's just too much.
-So, if you scale better...
832
00:42:49,912 --> 00:42:51,638
I'm gonna have to,
and this is the thing,
833
00:42:51,672 --> 00:42:53,640
I wanted to add all these
all in at once,
834
00:42:53,674 --> 00:42:54,744
but I think you're right.
835
00:42:54,779 --> 00:42:56,159
I'm gonna have to just
brew five gallons
836
00:42:56,194 --> 00:42:58,058
and do five one-gallon
batches of it
837
00:42:58,092 --> 00:43:00,750
and just kind of figure out
what the heck's going on.
838
00:43:00,785 --> 00:43:02,890
All right, I gotta wake up
real early tomorrow.
839
00:43:02,925 --> 00:43:04,029
Start doing some homework.
840
00:43:04,064 --> 00:43:06,204
-Good seeing you.
-Cheers, Brice.
841
00:43:06,238 --> 00:43:08,206
-Appreciate it.
-MAN: That's your name?
842
00:43:08,240 --> 00:43:09,863
[LAUGHING]
843
00:43:11,347 --> 00:43:14,764
Yeah, cheers. Thank you, guys.
Much appreciated.
844
00:43:16,248 --> 00:43:20,356
The problem is the cucumber
just came in
so incredibly strong.
845
00:43:20,390 --> 00:43:23,083
What a lot of people
don't realize is
that brewing lagers,
846
00:43:23,117 --> 00:43:26,293
actually is significantly
more difficult
than brewing ales
847
00:43:26,327 --> 00:43:28,744
and also takes
significantly more time.
848
00:43:31,643 --> 00:43:34,094
Every good brewer
loves a great pilsner.
849
00:43:37,994 --> 00:43:40,307
VACLAV: Yeah, in the place,
850
00:43:40,341 --> 00:43:43,828
when was born this beer,
in this year, 1842,
851
00:43:43,862 --> 00:43:47,694
and it was about
260 families
852
00:43:47,728 --> 00:43:49,350
who founded this brewery.
853
00:43:49,385 --> 00:43:55,011
And they invited from Germany,
uh, a young brewmaster,
Josef Groll.
854
00:43:55,046 --> 00:43:59,015
And Josef Groll
combined these three
ingredients together
855
00:43:59,050 --> 00:44:01,777
and it led to this
nice golden color
856
00:44:01,811 --> 00:44:04,607
and a little bit caramel aroma
of Pilsner Urquell.
857
00:44:04,642 --> 00:44:09,474
And Josef Groll opened
the barrel and showed
the result,
858
00:44:09,508 --> 00:44:13,098
and the beer was clear gold
with nice head.
859
00:44:13,133 --> 00:44:14,306
After first sip,
860
00:44:14,341 --> 00:44:18,621
they recognized that
this is gift from God.
861
00:44:18,656 --> 00:44:24,385
Pilsner was like the killer app
[LAUGHS] of its time.
862
00:44:24,420 --> 00:44:28,735
Uh, it, you know,
raced across,
you know, Europe
863
00:44:28,769 --> 00:44:30,288
uh, like wildfire.
864
00:44:30,322 --> 00:44:34,982
When people saw
for the first time
a beer that was clear,
865
00:44:35,017 --> 00:44:38,814
uh, and golden,
rather than dark and murky,
866
00:44:38,848 --> 00:44:40,608
people lost their minds.
867
00:44:40,643 --> 00:44:43,715
They were like,
"We've never seen
anything that beautiful
868
00:44:43,750 --> 00:44:45,027
in our entire lives."
869
00:44:45,061 --> 00:44:46,718
And the thing was over.
870
00:44:46,753 --> 00:44:48,064
Right then and there.
871
00:44:48,099 --> 00:44:50,377
It's like,
"That's the one we want."
872
00:44:50,411 --> 00:44:51,550
It looks like gold.
873
00:44:51,585 --> 00:44:53,380
Pilsner's an
interesting category
874
00:44:53,414 --> 00:44:56,038
'cause we've seen a lot of
activity in that in the craft
sector for the last year.
875
00:44:56,072 --> 00:44:58,005
Uh, so it seems to be
having a bit of a resurgence.
876
00:44:58,040 --> 00:44:59,973
It seems like pilsner's
having its time,
877
00:45:00,007 --> 00:45:01,733
um, which is ironic
878
00:45:01,768 --> 00:45:04,322
because for so many craft
brewers, going back to that
first and second wave,
879
00:45:04,356 --> 00:45:07,118
lagers and pilsners were
the opposite of craft beer.
880
00:45:07,152 --> 00:45:10,397
Craft brewers who needed
to make beers faster
and cheaper,
881
00:45:10,431 --> 00:45:13,124
but also wanted more
flavor and experimentation
started making ales.
882
00:45:13,158 --> 00:45:14,642
I think pilsner
was underrepresented
883
00:45:14,677 --> 00:45:18,060
in the formation of craft beer
for a couple of reasons.
884
00:45:18,094 --> 00:45:20,131
Um, number one,
the equipment cost
885
00:45:20,165 --> 00:45:23,237
and the attention to process
probably was lacking
886
00:45:23,272 --> 00:45:26,724
in some people that were
looking to build
a rudimentary brewery
887
00:45:26,758 --> 00:45:28,380
and get high flavor.
888
00:45:28,415 --> 00:45:31,590
You hear a lot of, you know,
"I only drink craft,
I don't drink crap."
889
00:45:31,625 --> 00:45:36,250
And they're trying to imply
that those mass-produced
light lagers
890
00:45:36,285 --> 00:45:39,322
or American adjunct lagers
is inferior.
891
00:45:39,357 --> 00:45:41,152
And nothing could be
further from the truth.
892
00:45:41,186 --> 00:45:43,292
Those are technically
perfect beers.
893
00:45:43,326 --> 00:45:45,915
Those are beers where
tens of millions of barrels
894
00:45:45,950 --> 00:45:47,848
of the same beer
is brewed every year
895
00:45:47,883 --> 00:45:49,850
at multiple locations
around the country,
896
00:45:49,885 --> 00:45:51,990
and they all taste
exactly the same.
897
00:45:52,025 --> 00:45:53,647
That is a huge
scientific achievement.
898
00:45:53,681 --> 00:45:56,684
We now have these factors
that make it possible
to make lager.
899
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,342
Uh, and so people
are looking at lager
and pilsner as like,
900
00:45:59,377 --> 00:46:01,103
"Well, maybe it's not
such a political thing.
901
00:46:01,137 --> 00:46:04,520
Maybe it was a matter
of constraints [LAUGHS]
that I couldn't make those.
902
00:46:04,554 --> 00:46:07,212
Maybe I'm actually interested
in those beers
now that I can make them."
903
00:46:09,352 --> 00:46:10,871
DREW: We're here
in the lower east side
904
00:46:10,906 --> 00:46:13,943
to kinda cut through
and explore
some of the bars here.
905
00:46:15,531 --> 00:46:16,877
DREW: Kids.
906
00:46:16,912 --> 00:46:19,569
Oh, hey there, Jeremy.
It's good seeing you.
How are you guys?
907
00:46:19,604 --> 00:46:20,639
Good to see you around here.
908
00:46:21,261 --> 00:46:22,641
DREW: Interboro.
909
00:46:22,676 --> 00:46:24,989
Is that the one
that the gals had?
910
00:46:25,023 --> 00:46:26,645
MAN: Where is Interboro?
911
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:28,061
It's out in Bushwick.
912
00:46:28,095 --> 00:46:30,270
I mean, the scene's running.
913
00:46:30,304 --> 00:46:32,375
It's going nuts, obviously,
here in New York.
914
00:46:32,410 --> 00:46:34,584
We've got so many
different breweries coming out.
915
00:46:35,033 --> 00:46:37,380
Gentlemen, lady.
916
00:46:37,415 --> 00:46:40,176
3:45. I'm keeping
any of the conductors
on schedule.
917
00:46:40,211 --> 00:46:42,282
We're going 3:45
to Randolph Beer.
918
00:46:43,973 --> 00:46:45,423
Oh, why, thank you, sir.
919
00:46:46,596 --> 00:46:50,946
Right there is Drew
with that Leonardo himself,
920
00:46:50,980 --> 00:46:52,982
with cool sunglasses,
921
00:46:53,672 --> 00:46:55,502
with a most...
922
00:46:55,536 --> 00:46:58,608
Yup, there it is.
Yup, see that?
You know that shot.
923
00:46:58,643 --> 00:47:00,334
Drew is...
924
00:47:00,369 --> 00:47:05,892
He literally symbolizes
people doing what they wanna do.
925
00:47:05,926 --> 00:47:08,687
People following their dreams.
926
00:47:08,722 --> 00:47:11,898
People finding a passion,
927
00:47:11,932 --> 00:47:14,624
developing that passion,
honing in that passion,
928
00:47:14,659 --> 00:47:17,075
and turning it into a career.
929
00:47:17,110 --> 00:47:20,078
And if we could all do that,
then we'd all be very lucky.
930
00:47:20,113 --> 00:47:22,184
So it's pretty cool
what he's doing.
931
00:47:24,531 --> 00:47:25,877
DREW'S FRIEND: I mean,
I used to live with Drew.
932
00:47:25,912 --> 00:47:27,189
Drew's one of the best friends from college,
933
00:47:27,223 --> 00:47:29,363
and spent a lot of time
living together
934
00:47:29,398 --> 00:47:33,160
when he was working at
these corporate law firms.
935
00:47:33,195 --> 00:47:34,713
He's going into this
because it's a passion,
936
00:47:34,748 --> 00:47:36,715
and wherever it takes him,
that's where he goes.
937
00:47:36,750 --> 00:47:39,580
And in a very admirable way,
he makes decisions.
938
00:47:39,615 --> 00:47:41,789
You know, he's not scared
of making a decision.
939
00:47:41,824 --> 00:47:43,032
We're also a fan of craft beer.
940
00:47:43,067 --> 00:47:45,276
And, it's a pretty
competitive space,
you know?
941
00:47:45,310 --> 00:47:48,589
It's not what it was
15 years ago.
942
00:47:48,624 --> 00:47:50,764
And so, to the question
943
00:47:50,798 --> 00:47:54,043
of what kind of opportunity
there is out there...
944
00:47:54,078 --> 00:47:55,217
I think he's gonna kill it.
945
00:47:55,251 --> 00:47:57,150
I think he's a beer nerd.
946
00:47:57,184 --> 00:47:59,221
He comes in here
and he gets a raging boner
947
00:47:59,255 --> 00:48:00,912
because he sees the beer list.
948
00:48:00,947 --> 00:48:03,018
He's... He's gonna
do a good job.
949
00:48:03,052 --> 00:48:04,743
I think it's his passion.
950
00:48:04,778 --> 00:48:06,090
Definitely not law.
951
00:48:06,953 --> 00:48:09,334
This is
a barrel-fermented saison.
952
00:48:10,404 --> 00:48:11,716
Well, what about this guy, huh?
953
00:48:11,750 --> 00:48:13,269
MAN: Nerd alert. Nerd alert.
954
00:48:13,304 --> 00:48:15,754
Yeah, that's getting nerdy.
That's getting nerdy.
955
00:48:22,934 --> 00:48:25,281
[MACHINE BEEPING]
956
00:48:28,319 --> 00:48:30,148
I wanna somehow create
a meme where I'm going,
957
00:48:30,183 --> 00:48:32,702
"Om-nom-nom-nom."
958
00:48:32,737 --> 00:48:35,705
Just to get the bottom of it.
Like this,
like with your mouth open.
959
00:48:36,983 --> 00:48:39,123
It smells...
It smells like you're in an IPA.
960
00:48:39,157 --> 00:48:40,538
Like, I mean,
like, really in one.
961
00:48:40,572 --> 00:48:41,815
Like swimming in beer.
962
00:48:41,849 --> 00:48:43,610
-God.
-So creepy.
963
00:48:48,684 --> 00:48:49,823
It's crazy.
964
00:48:52,757 --> 00:48:56,209
TOUR GUIDE: Okay, now,
what we normally do...
965
00:48:57,451 --> 00:49:00,144
That hammer mill
takes those hot cones
966
00:49:00,178 --> 00:49:03,285
and grinds them up.
Go and grab some.
967
00:49:03,319 --> 00:49:05,390
What I want you to see,
it's relatively coarse.
968
00:49:07,358 --> 00:49:09,567
It's a misnomer when people
say we grind it
to a fine powder,
969
00:49:09,601 --> 00:49:11,396
but we don't.
A lot of people do.
970
00:49:11,431 --> 00:49:12,880
-You know Seco?
-Uh-huh.
971
00:49:12,915 --> 00:49:15,090
-TOUR GUIDE: It's about 3,200.
-Wow.
972
00:49:16,436 --> 00:49:20,405
So, again, these two rows,
go ahead and grab a cone.
973
00:49:27,930 --> 00:49:30,001
BRIAN: It is a very hardy one.
974
00:49:30,036 --> 00:49:33,108
It's a very hardy one
as far as the cone structure.
Yeah.
975
00:49:35,179 --> 00:49:37,319
Compared to the sterlings
in there, much more delicate.
976
00:49:37,353 --> 00:49:38,389
Yeah.
977
00:49:40,149 --> 00:49:42,496
[INDISTINCT CHATTER]
978
00:49:45,051 --> 00:49:46,742
Look at you.
979
00:49:48,606 --> 00:49:51,574
-Ooh lar-lar.
-Look at that. So artistic.
980
00:49:54,094 --> 00:49:57,925
All right, so how we doing
so far, guys? How's this trip?
Decent?
981
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,480
For those people on the teams,
people that know me well,
982
00:50:00,514 --> 00:50:01,999
this stuff's not wasted on me.
983
00:50:02,033 --> 00:50:03,690
Like, I live this stuff.
984
00:50:03,724 --> 00:50:06,037
Going out on those hop fields,
it's a different experience.
985
00:50:06,072 --> 00:50:08,626
You can read about it,
you can learn about it
in beer immersion,
986
00:50:08,660 --> 00:50:10,421
you can do it in all
these different ways,
987
00:50:10,455 --> 00:50:12,043
but until you get to see,
touch, feel, right,
988
00:50:12,078 --> 00:50:14,735
this is the way that adults
really kinda anchor
those memories.
989
00:50:14,770 --> 00:50:17,980
I was thinking about, you know,
having young kids now,
990
00:50:18,015 --> 00:50:21,949
and going through, like,
experiences you've had
with them,
991
00:50:21,984 --> 00:50:23,744
like, you know,
holidays at Christmas,
992
00:50:23,779 --> 00:50:25,401
you know, it's exciting
as a little kid.
993
00:50:25,436 --> 00:50:27,162
And then you get to experience
with your kids, and you're like,
994
00:50:27,196 --> 00:50:28,646
"Oh, my God,
this is a new entire thing."
995
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:31,959
And so this week, I am
trying to make
a conscious effort
996
00:50:31,994 --> 00:50:34,065
to experience it through
other people's eyes
a little bit.
997
00:50:34,100 --> 00:50:37,896
Hopefully, being able
to enhance that, at least
in some small ways, so...
998
00:50:50,668 --> 00:50:53,671
-All right, German...
-German style lager...
999
00:50:53,705 --> 00:50:55,086
Yeah, give it a taste.
1000
00:50:55,121 --> 00:50:57,882
-Super clean, unfiltered.
-Oh, yeah.
1001
00:50:57,916 --> 00:51:00,988
-Oh, wow, it's super clean
for unfiltered.
-Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1002
00:51:01,023 --> 00:51:04,199
DREW: We're going to
New York City Brewers Choice.
1003
00:51:04,233 --> 00:51:07,719
They've got visiting brewers,
they've got people
bringing food.
1004
00:51:07,754 --> 00:51:10,584
There's just... there's a lot
of action going on,
1005
00:51:10,619 --> 00:51:12,724
and I see it kind of
as a celebration
1006
00:51:12,759 --> 00:51:16,211
of what's gone on
in the past year
here in New York City
1007
00:51:16,245 --> 00:51:18,040
in terms of
the rising beer scene
1008
00:51:18,075 --> 00:51:19,835
and just how powerful
it's gotten,
1009
00:51:19,869 --> 00:51:23,873
but also kind of a celebration of where it's going
in the future.
1010
00:51:23,908 --> 00:51:26,738
Don't you have a child
at home you should
be dealing with?
1011
00:51:26,773 --> 00:51:28,326
What's up, bro?
1012
00:51:28,361 --> 00:51:30,466
-Anywhere, man. Doing well.
-Good to see you.
1013
00:51:30,501 --> 00:51:32,054
What do you got?
Oh, you have a kolsch.
1014
00:51:32,089 --> 00:51:33,952
Good kolsch.
Brewed-style kolsch.
1015
00:51:33,987 --> 00:51:35,299
We also have a giant hop sour.
1016
00:51:35,333 --> 00:51:37,818
You don't get vegetal,
you get a little grassy...
1017
00:51:37,853 --> 00:51:40,338
Yeah, that vanilla bean
just rounds it out
at the end.
1018
00:51:40,373 --> 00:51:42,099
BREWER: I didn't use
any extracts over there.
1019
00:51:42,133 --> 00:51:44,515
Nothing, yeah? Wow.
1020
00:51:44,549 --> 00:51:46,827
Are you guys near
at New York State Farm?
1021
00:51:46,862 --> 00:51:49,968
We are at New York State Farm.
We're opening April 1st.
1022
00:51:50,003 --> 00:51:51,453
It's been up for 36 weeks now.
1023
00:51:51,487 --> 00:51:52,902
I was just gonna say,
you're at 36th street?
1024
00:51:52,937 --> 00:51:55,077
I was just doing a talk
at a high school over there
1025
00:51:55,112 --> 00:51:56,803
about both brewing
and being a lawyer,
1026
00:51:56,837 --> 00:51:58,908
-so go figure. Yeah, man.
-What's your name?
1027
00:51:58,943 --> 00:52:00,289
-Drew.
-Drew? Merlin.
1028
00:52:00,324 --> 00:52:01,739
I've met these individuals,
1029
00:52:01,773 --> 00:52:03,948
I can collaborate
with these individuals.
1030
00:52:03,982 --> 00:52:07,296
I can learn about
what these guys have done,
1031
00:52:07,331 --> 00:52:10,472
and I'm gonna turn that
into who I am
1032
00:52:10,506 --> 00:52:12,267
and where I go from.
1033
00:52:12,301 --> 00:52:13,923
And that's the beauty of it.
1034
00:52:13,958 --> 00:52:18,480
Every step I take,
every brewer I discuss,
every beer I sniff
1035
00:52:18,514 --> 00:52:20,620
puts me one step further.
1036
00:52:20,654 --> 00:52:23,001
This is why I'm not
sitting in the office.
1037
00:52:23,036 --> 00:52:26,488
The reason why I'm gonna be
sitting in the office
in a couple hours
1038
00:52:26,522 --> 00:52:29,180
is so that I can
be here again.
1039
00:52:29,215 --> 00:52:31,527
And that's really
what it's all about.
1040
00:52:32,079 --> 00:52:33,357
This is it.
1041
00:52:34,151 --> 00:52:35,324
What's up, man?
1042
00:52:36,774 --> 00:52:38,293
This is it. Ha!
1043
00:52:38,914 --> 00:52:40,467
[FUNKY MUSIC PLAYING]
1044
00:52:49,131 --> 00:52:50,615
JIM: Bartenders tasted it,
1045
00:52:50,650 --> 00:52:52,997
you know, they didn't
really know
what to make of it
1046
00:52:53,031 --> 00:52:54,240
because it was so different.
1047
00:52:54,274 --> 00:52:55,758
And they liked it,
1048
00:52:55,793 --> 00:52:58,451
but they weren't sure
if it was, like,
okay to like it.
1049
00:52:58,485 --> 00:53:03,525
Some of them would just, like,
follow, uh, their palate
1050
00:53:03,559 --> 00:53:06,838
and listen to what their palate
was telling them.
1051
00:53:06,873 --> 00:53:09,289
And they would, "Hmm."
1052
00:53:09,324 --> 00:53:13,569
Uh, you know, and when
I would close the sale,
1053
00:53:13,604 --> 00:53:16,054
was, you know,
again they'd taste it,
1054
00:53:16,089 --> 00:53:20,852
and I'd say, "Do you think
it's good enough to offer
to your customers?"
1055
00:53:22,199 --> 00:53:24,166
And some said yes.
1056
00:53:24,201 --> 00:53:26,133
ROB: I didn't have
a lot of overhead.
1057
00:53:26,168 --> 00:53:27,583
I just had me
for an employee.
1058
00:53:27,618 --> 00:53:29,275
Didn't have fancy equipment.
1059
00:53:29,309 --> 00:53:32,623
So we just kinda
hunkered down and did
our thing for ten years.
1060
00:53:32,657 --> 00:53:35,764
We are having our best year ever
in the State of Maine
1061
00:53:35,798 --> 00:53:37,938
despite the fact
that in the last ten years,
1062
00:53:37,973 --> 00:53:41,321
we've gone from about
25 breweries to nearly 100.
1063
00:53:41,356 --> 00:53:44,082
We have more people coming out to the brewery
1064
00:53:44,117 --> 00:53:45,670
than we've ever had before,
1065
00:53:45,705 --> 00:53:48,639
and more breweries
in this industrial park.
1066
00:53:48,673 --> 00:53:52,470
So, despite the fact
that there are all these
breweries opening up,
1067
00:53:52,505 --> 00:53:55,473
there seems to be enough
business to go around.
1068
00:53:55,508 --> 00:53:57,579
GARRETT: Eventually,
I became head brewer.
1069
00:53:57,613 --> 00:54:02,480
I became pretty well-known
for the beers, you know,
that I was making then.
1070
00:54:02,515 --> 00:54:05,103
Uh, I was getting together
with David Bruce,
1071
00:54:05,138 --> 00:54:07,589
who started the brewpub
movement in the '70s.
1072
00:54:07,623 --> 00:54:12,110
I came to Brooklyn Brewery and brought those guys with me into Brooklyn Brewery.
1073
00:54:12,145 --> 00:54:14,906
I feel that some of the things that Brooklyn Brewery does
1074
00:54:14,941 --> 00:54:18,255
are at that top,
you know, of the pyramid.
1075
00:54:18,289 --> 00:54:22,535
For example, we were the brewery
that invented collaborations,
1076
00:54:22,569 --> 00:54:25,434
and that is now
a standard part
1077
00:54:25,469 --> 00:54:27,264
of the craft-brewing culture.
1078
00:54:27,298 --> 00:54:28,989
I'm really proud of that.
1079
00:54:29,024 --> 00:54:32,924
I get a chance now to hang out with people who have been
heroes to me.
1080
00:54:32,959 --> 00:54:35,306
And then somebody else
comes along and tells you,
1081
00:54:35,341 --> 00:54:38,965
"Oh, I read your book
and that inspired me
to get into beer,
1082
00:54:38,999 --> 00:54:42,244
"and now I've been
a brewer for five years."
1083
00:54:42,279 --> 00:54:43,970
You wanna burst into tears.
1084
00:54:44,004 --> 00:54:46,697
SAM: Right around '99,
late '99, 2000,
1085
00:54:46,731 --> 00:54:49,216
we started bottling
90 Minute IPA.
1086
00:54:49,251 --> 00:54:54,498
'Cause 90 Minute is
the first bottle that said the words "Imperial IPA" on it.
1087
00:54:54,532 --> 00:54:57,570
In the same month,
we also released Midas Touch,
1088
00:54:57,604 --> 00:54:59,710
which is the first,
sort of, ancient ale.
1089
00:54:59,744 --> 00:55:02,575
A modern beer
packaged and distributed,
1090
00:55:02,609 --> 00:55:05,232
referencing using
molecular evidence,
1091
00:55:05,267 --> 00:55:07,165
a beer that was brewed
centuries ago.
1092
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:10,893
And at that moment,
we went from being these freaks
in the beer industry,
1093
00:55:10,928 --> 00:55:12,688
You know, "Dogfish,
you put raisins in your beer.
1094
00:55:12,723 --> 00:55:14,587
You put coffees.
You're disrespectful."
1095
00:55:14,621 --> 00:55:18,798
to, I think, Esquire
called 90 Minute the best
IPA in America that year.
1096
00:55:18,832 --> 00:55:20,040
People Magazine,
1097
00:55:20,075 --> 00:55:22,491
Today Show did stories
onMidas Touch.
1098
00:55:22,526 --> 00:55:24,355
And we've been fortunate
for 20 years
1099
00:55:24,390 --> 00:55:30,465
that that innovation
and that refusal to discount
or homogenize our beer
1100
00:55:30,499 --> 00:55:33,364
really started paying off
around '99 to 2000.
1101
00:55:33,399 --> 00:55:34,779
KIMMICH: And we're
the new place in town,
1102
00:55:34,814 --> 00:55:36,194
so everybody wanted
to try it.
1103
00:55:36,229 --> 00:55:38,369
But if we had sucked,
they wouldn't have come back.
1104
00:55:38,404 --> 00:55:40,475
And so we just got
busier and busier
1105
00:55:40,509 --> 00:55:42,649
month after month,
year after year,
1106
00:55:42,684 --> 00:55:45,687
to the point where
we would just be full.
1107
00:55:45,721 --> 00:55:47,758
Twenty minutes
after we open, we're full
1108
00:55:47,792 --> 00:55:50,450
until last call
and the kitchen closed,
1109
00:55:50,485 --> 00:55:51,831
and then that was it.
1110
00:55:51,865 --> 00:55:53,764
The next day, you do it again.
1111
00:55:53,798 --> 00:55:56,767
And that was our success.
Word spread quickly.
1112
00:55:56,801 --> 00:56:00,011
People talked about our beer,
they talked about our food,
1113
00:56:00,046 --> 00:56:02,289
about the restaurant,
everything about it.
1114
00:56:02,324 --> 00:56:04,430
And it just got
crazier and crazier
1115
00:56:04,464 --> 00:56:07,640
until we decided,
finally, Jen convinced me,
1116
00:56:07,674 --> 00:56:09,676
"Let's open
a production brewery."
1117
00:56:09,711 --> 00:56:14,025
And thank God we did,
'cause the pub got wiped out
on a Sunday night
1118
00:56:14,060 --> 00:56:15,717
in tropical storm Irene,
1119
00:56:15,751 --> 00:56:18,823
and Tuesday morning
was our first canning run
of Heady Topper.
1120
00:56:18,858 --> 00:56:24,519
And at the time,
when we started packaging
Heady Topper, there...
1121
00:56:24,553 --> 00:56:27,107
A double IPA
in a 16-ounce can
1122
00:56:27,142 --> 00:56:30,801
in a four-pack was
pretty much non-existent.
1123
00:56:30,835 --> 00:56:35,875
Now, you know,
it's kind of expected.
1124
00:56:35,909 --> 00:56:37,566
You know, there's a lot
of breweries out there
1125
00:56:37,601 --> 00:56:41,846
putting double IPAs
in 16-ounce cans
in that four-pack format
1126
00:56:41,881 --> 00:56:45,471
and to us, it's the perfect way to do it.
1127
00:56:45,505 --> 00:56:48,094
You know,
it's your own 16-ounce keg.
1128
00:56:48,681 --> 00:56:50,786
Perfect, every time.
1129
00:56:50,821 --> 00:56:54,756
You know, a big motivator's
'cause Jen and I wanted
to create our own jobs.
1130
00:56:54,790 --> 00:56:56,654
we wanted to be our own bosses.
1131
00:56:56,689 --> 00:56:59,726
I was done with crappy bosses.
1132
00:56:59,761 --> 00:57:02,315
If it was gonna be anything,
it would be up to us,
1133
00:57:02,349 --> 00:57:06,906
and we would create
the atmosphere that
we would wanna work in.
1134
00:57:06,940 --> 00:57:10,737
And we've carried that
throughout every one
of our projects.
1135
00:57:13,602 --> 00:57:16,916
So I've made the mistake
in the past of, uh...
1136
00:57:18,504 --> 00:57:22,715
of studying, like,
on the couch or whatever.
1137
00:57:22,749 --> 00:57:24,544
That last owners
of this house have this set up.
1138
00:57:24,579 --> 00:57:27,478
It's like a little
kinda office space,
1139
00:57:27,513 --> 00:57:33,311
so I found that if I...
just when I'm up here,
1140
00:57:33,346 --> 00:57:34,761
study 100% of the time...
1141
00:57:34,796 --> 00:57:37,005
So these are--
I tried to do
color-coded ones,
1142
00:57:37,039 --> 00:57:40,215
like the, you know,
obviously pear-colored beers
1143
00:57:40,249 --> 00:57:43,770
versus the yellow.
1144
00:57:43,805 --> 00:57:46,497
The amber-ish colored beers
are in red.
1145
00:57:46,532 --> 00:57:49,258
If I'm looking for
one particular one
and I know that it's yellow,
1146
00:57:49,293 --> 00:57:50,674
then I can go, "Okay."
You know what I mean?
1147
00:57:50,708 --> 00:57:52,503
I can pick through
pretty quick.
1148
00:57:52,538 --> 00:57:55,506
I have, you know,
between five and eight,
1149
00:57:55,541 --> 00:57:58,026
um, commercial examples from...
1150
00:57:59,165 --> 00:58:01,236
usually from
three different countries.
1151
00:58:01,270 --> 00:58:02,789
Uh, and then, on the back,
1152
00:58:02,824 --> 00:58:04,515
I'll have some
comparative stuff
1153
00:58:04,550 --> 00:58:07,863
and maybe some, um,
historical stuff.
1154
00:58:07,898 --> 00:58:09,693
And if there's anything
that I...
1155
00:58:09,727 --> 00:58:13,731
like as I'm researching
the style, find...
1156
00:58:13,766 --> 00:58:17,839
it's something that's new to me
that needs to be committed
to memory, I'll put on those.
1157
00:58:20,669 --> 00:58:23,154
An ounce of golden.
Half an ounce of rum...
1158
00:58:26,123 --> 00:58:30,230
So, right now, I'm pulling out
a series upon series of hops,
1159
00:58:30,265 --> 00:58:31,542
different styles of hops here,
1160
00:58:31,577 --> 00:58:34,545
just to find two
that I'm interested in,
1161
00:58:34,580 --> 00:58:36,616
if they have it.
1162
00:58:36,651 --> 00:58:39,032
Uh, for the beer style
that I'm trying to brew,
1163
00:58:39,067 --> 00:58:42,070
which is gonna be
a brown ale
brewed with spices.
1164
00:58:42,104 --> 00:58:46,039
A brewmaster is like
the chef in a kitchen.
1165
00:58:46,074 --> 00:58:48,801
Everything from
the concept of the beer,
1166
00:58:48,835 --> 00:58:50,734
the ingredients, the kitchen.
1167
00:58:50,768 --> 00:58:54,979
In a brewery, there's somebody
that is responsible
1168
00:58:55,014 --> 00:58:57,706
for purchasing
the ingredients,
1169
00:58:57,741 --> 00:58:59,950
for developing the recipes,
1170
00:58:59,984 --> 00:59:05,611
for maintaining the quality
and consistency of the beer
1171
00:59:05,645 --> 00:59:08,993
in adherence to those recipes.
1172
00:59:09,028 --> 00:59:11,271
GARRETT: Everything that
goes into it
1173
00:59:11,306 --> 00:59:14,205
from start to finish
until it lands in your glass
1174
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:17,105
and you're happy,
that's the brewmaster.
1175
00:59:17,139 --> 00:59:19,521
The way that I often put it
is I am the liquid,
1176
00:59:19,556 --> 00:59:20,936
and the liquid is me,
1177
00:59:20,971 --> 00:59:24,043
and there's nothing about it
that I don't care about,
1178
00:59:24,077 --> 00:59:26,770
and there's nothing about it
that I ought not to know.
1179
00:59:26,804 --> 00:59:29,082
Brewmaster, yeah,
this is funny joke
1180
00:59:29,117 --> 00:59:31,360
because you are responsible
for everything.
1181
00:59:31,395 --> 00:59:36,607
To check whether quality
of malt is okay, whether brew
is in good phase,
1182
00:59:36,642 --> 00:59:39,092
whether fermentation
run properly,
1183
00:59:39,127 --> 00:59:44,615
whether by maturation
the beer has the...
this delicious taste.
1184
00:59:44,650 --> 00:59:46,997
Brewing, this is
never-ending process,
1185
00:59:47,031 --> 00:59:51,104
twenty-four hours,
whole year, each day.
1186
00:59:53,900 --> 00:59:57,041
If someone is willing
to call themselves
a brewmaster,
1187
00:59:57,076 --> 00:59:58,767
they better come correct
and prove it
1188
00:59:58,802 --> 01:00:00,976
by brewing amazing beer.
1189
01:00:01,011 --> 01:00:03,047
And whether it's just
a dude in his kitchen
1190
01:00:03,082 --> 01:00:05,532
that says, "I'm the fucking
brewmaster of my house,"
1191
01:00:05,567 --> 01:00:08,881
if the beer is good,
that person deserves
that title.
1192
01:00:08,915 --> 01:00:10,848
So I don't want it to be
completely knocked out.
1193
01:00:10,883 --> 01:00:12,988
I still want
a little bit of solid in there.
1194
01:00:13,679 --> 01:00:15,301
just so that there's...
1195
01:00:15,335 --> 01:00:19,685
it doesn't all blend in
and completely douse the beer
1196
01:00:19,719 --> 01:00:21,928
and change the consistency
of the beer.
1197
01:00:21,963 --> 01:00:24,517
I wanna have
a little bit of
"something" something
1198
01:00:24,551 --> 01:00:26,105
that I pull out in the end, too.
1199
01:00:26,139 --> 01:00:28,763
-This is just...
-[BLENDER WHIRRING]
1200
01:00:28,797 --> 01:00:30,661
Like MacGyver's sparging.
1201
01:00:30,696 --> 01:00:33,699
This is just kind of
been made up as the process
is going on.
1202
01:00:33,733 --> 01:00:36,563
This is just learning
how to work with it,
1203
01:00:36,598 --> 01:00:39,946
seeing what's gonna work best,
and if it doesn't work,
1204
01:00:39,981 --> 01:00:42,984
learning how to figure out
a new method to make it work.
1205
01:00:43,018 --> 01:00:46,470
Well, my apologies to all
of my fellow Poles out there.
1206
01:00:46,504 --> 01:00:48,023
This is not Polish vodka.
1207
01:00:48,058 --> 01:00:50,267
If I had it, I would've
definitely used it.
1208
01:00:50,301 --> 01:00:52,338
Nonetheless, Na Zdorovie!
1209
01:00:52,372 --> 01:00:55,341
Let's kill any micro bacteria
we got going on in here
1210
01:00:55,375 --> 01:00:57,792
and make us some nice
melon addition.
1211
01:00:59,207 --> 01:01:00,726
All right.
1212
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:02,589
We got our ounces
of vodka in there.
1213
01:01:02,624 --> 01:01:05,489
We're gonna make sure
that's gonna be dispersed
a little bit.
1214
01:01:05,523 --> 01:01:08,906
We wanna make sure
all of our melon gets
a little play with the vodka.
1215
01:01:08,941 --> 01:01:12,427
You know, this is basically
like Spring Break going on
in here right now.
1216
01:01:13,117 --> 01:01:15,913
And when done with Spring Break,
1217
01:01:18,605 --> 01:01:20,677
it's time to enter
the frozen period.
1218
01:01:20,711 --> 01:01:24,197
We're gonna leave that guy
in there for three days.
The freezing process.
1219
01:01:24,232 --> 01:01:25,716
In addition,
the vodka we got here
1220
01:01:25,751 --> 01:01:29,064
is gonna help kill
any microbes, get any
bad bugs out of there
1221
01:01:29,099 --> 01:01:33,034
to make sure that nothing
but pure, beautiful melon
hits my beer.
1222
01:01:39,696 --> 01:01:42,768
People typically hate coming
into places like this with me
1223
01:01:42,802 --> 01:01:45,667
'cause I end up staring
at the shelves for,
I don't know,
1224
01:01:45,702 --> 01:01:47,427
I mean, a half-hour,
hour or past,
1225
01:01:47,462 --> 01:01:50,016
I"m just kind of wandering
up and down the isles,
looking at stuff.
1226
01:01:53,295 --> 01:01:55,988
A lot of times, I'm doing
the descriptive panel
for Brian.
1227
01:01:56,022 --> 01:01:58,645
These are the beers I'll grab
to kind of push them outside
1228
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:01,165
and see how good they are
at picking up
random flavors in beers
1229
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:03,202
'cause Dogfish Head
put just about anything
1230
01:02:03,236 --> 01:02:04,617
you can ever imagine in a beer,
1231
01:02:04,651 --> 01:02:06,446
so they're always kinda fun
to include in those things.
1232
01:02:06,481 --> 01:02:09,795
You sit down here and you
got stuff from 5 Rabbits
in Chicago.
1233
01:02:09,829 --> 01:02:11,451
Um, and then all
the way down here,
1234
01:02:11,486 --> 01:02:13,833
you've got stuff from Belgium,
right, so duvels,
one of the classics,
1235
01:02:13,868 --> 01:02:17,388
and probably one I'll pick up
for the tasting stuff
with Brian tomorrow,
1236
01:02:17,423 --> 01:02:20,081
'cause it's such a great example
for Belgian Strong Golden.
1237
01:02:21,392 --> 01:02:23,947
You can imagine being
the average consumer
that comes in here
1238
01:02:23,981 --> 01:02:25,638
and you see there's
just sea of beers,
1239
01:02:25,672 --> 01:02:28,779
and it's hard to know
which ones you're gonna like,
1240
01:02:28,814 --> 01:02:30,263
what the flavors are,
anything like that,
1241
01:02:30,298 --> 01:02:32,196
if you're not
familiar with beer styles.
1242
01:02:32,231 --> 01:02:35,510
So seeing you're having
something that pops
off the shelf,
1243
01:02:35,544 --> 01:02:38,202
can really kinda draw
the attention in for
a lot of these brewers
1244
01:02:38,237 --> 01:02:40,342
and encourage people
to try their beer,
1245
01:02:40,377 --> 01:02:42,482
if nothing else,
because it's got
cool packaging.
1246
01:02:47,418 --> 01:02:50,214
[ACOUSTIC MUSIC PLAYING
ON SPEAKERS]
1247
01:03:06,368 --> 01:03:09,820
Every night,
4:00 a.m., I'm awake.
1248
01:03:09,855 --> 01:03:11,926
"What did I forget
in that spreadsheet?
1249
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:14,066
"Wow, what about this cost
of this employee?
1250
01:03:14,100 --> 01:03:15,757
"Have I thought about that tax?"
1251
01:03:15,792 --> 01:03:20,417
And there's just so much
[CHUCKLES] that goes into
planning a business,
1252
01:03:20,451 --> 01:03:23,385
and then, on top of that,
to plan a brewery.
1253
01:03:24,870 --> 01:03:28,563
It's mind-numbing
and daunting at the same time.
1254
01:03:28,597 --> 01:03:31,428
I don't know, I'm making this
all up as I'm doing it.
1255
01:03:31,462 --> 01:03:33,671
This is all projection.
1256
01:03:33,706 --> 01:03:36,847
And being type-A,
being risk averse,
being a lawyer,
1257
01:03:36,882 --> 01:03:38,987
you don't do that type of stuff.
1258
01:03:39,022 --> 01:03:41,645
And so I'm sitting here,
freaking out
1259
01:03:41,679 --> 01:03:44,786
about whether or not
anything that I've said in here
1260
01:03:44,821 --> 01:03:46,719
will actually translate
to the real world.
1261
01:03:46,753 --> 01:03:51,379
Physically, I can print out
this document right now,
and I can read through it,
1262
01:03:51,413 --> 01:03:54,554
and the spelling
is probably pretty good,
and the grammar's okay.
1263
01:03:54,589 --> 01:04:00,388
But do I feel like I'm right
or confident in it?
1264
01:04:00,422 --> 01:04:02,562
[SIGHS] That's
a freaking tall order.
1265
01:04:07,947 --> 01:04:09,604
Put your headphones on.
1266
01:04:09,638 --> 01:04:12,262
BRIAN: Well,
I'm gonna go upstairs. [LAUGHS]
1267
01:04:12,296 --> 01:04:15,437
And if I hear a can crack
instead of a bottle open
1268
01:04:15,472 --> 01:04:17,025
or if I hear a cork pop,
1269
01:04:17,060 --> 01:04:19,131
it's gonna give me
context clues.
1270
01:04:19,165 --> 01:04:23,376
So, yeah, I get them out.
1271
01:04:26,897 --> 01:04:28,692
Yeah, um...
1272
01:04:28,726 --> 01:04:33,421
He'll send me out or his boss
will send me a list of things
to buy.
1273
01:04:34,905 --> 01:04:39,461
Um, normally,
he doesn't know what I have.
1274
01:04:39,496 --> 01:04:43,258
So it's kind of like
just from helping him study,
1275
01:04:43,293 --> 01:04:46,917
I know a lot of
the classic examples
of the styles.
1276
01:04:46,952 --> 01:04:48,919
He missed it
by so close last time.
1277
01:04:48,954 --> 01:04:50,748
I feel like...
1278
01:04:50,783 --> 01:04:52,992
I don't know, I feel like
he's gonna nail it this time.
1279
01:04:58,308 --> 01:04:59,274
All right.
1280
01:05:28,441 --> 01:05:30,478
BRIAN: All right. You're gonna
give me the bad news?
1281
01:05:30,512 --> 01:05:32,756
-WIFE: Are you ready? Go ahead.
-BRIAN: Yeah.
1282
01:05:32,790 --> 01:05:35,172
Oh, you're gonna put me
on the spot,
make me guess first?
1283
01:05:36,104 --> 01:05:37,588
Let's see you work.
1284
01:05:37,623 --> 01:05:39,314
Um, so the first one,
1285
01:05:40,522 --> 01:05:44,181
uh, I said either...
I said cream ale.
1286
01:05:44,216 --> 01:05:46,943
-It's kolsch.
-Is it kolsch? Okay.
1287
01:05:46,977 --> 01:05:51,154
Number two, uh,
toasty malt, Munich-y.
1288
01:05:51,188 --> 01:05:53,225
Uh, I said Marzen.
1289
01:05:53,259 --> 01:05:54,605
Oktoberfest, yeah.
1290
01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:55,848
BRIAN: Yeah, what is it?
1291
01:05:55,882 --> 01:05:56,987
Which one?
1292
01:05:57,022 --> 01:05:58,126
Spaten Oktoberfest.
1293
01:05:58,161 --> 01:06:02,165
Number three,
dark but really low roast.
1294
01:06:02,199 --> 01:06:03,580
I said Schwarzbier.
1295
01:06:03,614 --> 01:06:07,342
-Yep, Kosritzer.
Craft Kosritzer.
-Nice. Kosritzer.
1296
01:06:07,377 --> 01:06:10,794
BRIAN: So the last two,
I said German pilsner.
1297
01:06:10,828 --> 01:06:13,038
-Yeah, Krombacher.
-Okay.
1298
01:06:13,072 --> 01:06:15,281
Number six was hard. Um...
1299
01:06:16,006 --> 01:06:17,387
Is it Dortmunder?
1300
01:06:18,767 --> 01:06:20,700
-Yep.
-Is it? Nice.
1301
01:06:20,735 --> 01:06:22,150
I said Helles or Dortmunder.
1302
01:06:22,185 --> 01:06:23,738
-Damm.
-Damm. Nice.
1303
01:06:23,772 --> 01:06:25,050
And that little oxidized helped.
1304
01:06:25,084 --> 01:06:27,845
-WIFE: All right,
you got six done.
-Yeah.
1305
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:29,054
This is our life, pretty much.
1306
01:06:29,088 --> 01:06:31,090
WIFE: Yeah, this is it.
1307
01:06:31,953 --> 01:06:33,886
Sometimes,
they don't go as well.
1308
01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:38,132
Our recycling can
would indicate that we have
a lot crazier life than...
1309
01:06:38,166 --> 01:06:39,478
I know, yeah.
1310
01:06:39,512 --> 01:06:42,032
There's the people who
take up the recycling product,
1311
01:06:42,067 --> 01:06:44,966
"These people
party their effin' faces off."
1312
01:06:45,001 --> 01:06:47,589
-But, little did they know,
-We keep them awake,
that's for sure.
1313
01:06:47,624 --> 01:06:50,282
the vast majority of that beer
goes down the drain. [LAUGHING]
1314
01:06:50,316 --> 01:06:53,043
We just put in milk jugs,
just leave them around as tips,
1315
01:06:53,078 --> 01:06:55,425
although just mixed up
all in there.
1316
01:06:55,459 --> 01:06:56,495
Yeah.
1317
01:07:06,401 --> 01:07:09,094
I'm a Connecticut boy,
so I'm on my way out
to Connecticut.
1318
01:07:09,128 --> 01:07:10,819
I got a lot
of friends out there,
1319
01:07:10,854 --> 01:07:13,719
and I lucked out, through
a friend of a friend,
1320
01:07:13,753 --> 01:07:16,377
putting me in touch
with this man, Danny Moses.
1321
01:07:16,411 --> 01:07:19,207
He's a character in
the movieThe Big Short.
1322
01:07:19,242 --> 01:07:23,280
He seems to have
quite a comprehension
1323
01:07:23,315 --> 01:07:27,284
of the economy, investing,
the hedge fund market,
1324
01:07:27,319 --> 01:07:31,771
and just generally
financial numbers overall.
1325
01:07:34,740 --> 01:07:35,879
-Danny?
-Hey, Drew.
1326
01:07:35,913 --> 01:07:37,087
-Drew.
-How are you?
1327
01:07:37,122 --> 01:07:38,537
-Pleasure to meet you.
-Very nice to meet you.
1328
01:07:38,571 --> 01:07:40,228
-Come on in. Absolutely.
-Thank you so much
for having me.
1329
01:07:42,610 --> 01:07:43,645
Come on in.
1330
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:47,718
Have a seat right there.
1331
01:07:48,409 --> 01:07:49,410
Did you bring me some samples?
1332
01:07:49,444 --> 01:07:51,446
-I certainly did.
-Atta boy.
1333
01:07:51,481 --> 01:07:54,691
[STUTTERS] So I did
the key fact sheet,
1334
01:07:54,725 --> 01:07:59,696
and this is kinda like
the full thing and the entire
background of everything.
1335
01:07:59,730 --> 01:08:01,215
But, as you said,
1336
01:08:01,249 --> 01:08:03,631
-first, the good stuff, right?
-Right. Exactly.
1337
01:08:03,665 --> 01:08:05,598
I did get a chance
to read through a lot of it.
1338
01:08:05,633 --> 01:08:08,222
I wrote down some notes,
so I was able to get
a better idea.
1339
01:08:08,256 --> 01:08:09,740
Oh, I really appreciate that.
1340
01:08:09,775 --> 01:08:12,191
Thank you so much
for taking the time
to look at it,
1341
01:08:12,226 --> 01:08:13,468
you know, for having me here.
1342
01:08:13,503 --> 01:08:16,575
-This is... this is my dream.
-That's great.
1343
01:08:16,609 --> 01:08:18,266
This is my happiness,
and I really think
1344
01:08:18,301 --> 01:08:20,751
this is where I see craft beer
going in the future.
1345
01:08:20,786 --> 01:08:24,410
Craft beer
and craft beer cocktails,
which is even more important.
1346
01:08:24,445 --> 01:08:27,137
So, to make sure
I don't give you
any bottle bombs.
1347
01:08:27,172 --> 01:08:29,277
So this is gonna be
the Bollywood Brown Ale.
1348
01:08:29,312 --> 01:08:31,693
What this guy has
is it's a brown ale
1349
01:08:31,728 --> 01:08:34,903
with cardamom cloves
and cinnamon in it.
1350
01:08:34,938 --> 01:08:38,286
It comes in almost like
a winter warmer for you.
1351
01:08:38,321 --> 01:08:39,874
So I don't know if you
wanna do some glassware
1352
01:08:39,908 --> 01:08:41,703
or you're happy to swig
straight out of the bottle.
1353
01:08:41,738 --> 01:08:43,774
If you think
out of the bottle's good.
I'll do it out of the bottle.
1354
01:08:43,809 --> 01:08:44,879
Absolutely.
1355
01:08:46,501 --> 01:08:48,158
That's great. Really good.
1356
01:08:48,193 --> 01:08:49,849
Right now,
quality is such a key...
1357
01:08:49,884 --> 01:08:53,612
Quality and authenticity
are such key aspects
of this world,
1358
01:08:53,646 --> 01:08:57,340
of, frankly, the slow
food movement as a whole,
1359
01:08:57,374 --> 01:09:01,585
and if you bring quality
into both sets of products,
1360
01:09:01,620 --> 01:09:05,279
whether it'd be
the Drew's Brews
or the Drew's Booze,
1361
01:09:05,313 --> 01:09:06,797
that then uses
the Drew's Brews...
1362
01:09:06,832 --> 01:09:08,937
Try saying that
three times. [CHUCKLES]
1363
01:09:08,972 --> 01:09:13,494
That's where you're gonna
find a cross-pollination
of market segments,
1364
01:09:13,528 --> 01:09:16,945
and you're gonna find
both the cocktail drinker,
1365
01:09:16,980 --> 01:09:18,706
who is looking
for exploration,
1366
01:09:18,740 --> 01:09:20,708
because that's what we're
hearing from the industry,
1367
01:09:20,742 --> 01:09:23,849
cocktail drinkers are looking
for new things to try out.
1368
01:09:23,883 --> 01:09:27,473
Craft beer drinkers,
you can't stop them
from trying new things.
1369
01:09:27,508 --> 01:09:31,615
It's always,
"What do you have for me next?
What do you have for me next?"
1370
01:09:31,650 --> 01:09:35,205
This provides
that next step immediately,
1371
01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:38,726
but also provides an opportunity
to continuously change
that next step,
1372
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:41,660
whether it's changing
the beer flavor,
as in altering that,
1373
01:09:41,694 --> 01:09:44,318
altering creating
an all-new cocktail
for the beer,
1374
01:09:44,352 --> 01:09:46,596
working together
to both break down walls
1375
01:09:46,630 --> 01:09:50,496
in the sense that,
you're a cocktail drinker,
I'm a beer drinker.
1376
01:09:50,531 --> 01:09:53,223
There's no longer
a differentiation
between the two of us
1377
01:09:53,258 --> 01:09:55,570
because we're branching out,
we're exploring,
1378
01:09:55,605 --> 01:09:57,365
but we're doing it
in a familiar capacity,
1379
01:09:57,400 --> 01:10:01,369
whether you're doing it
in the cocktail and I'm doing it
with beer in a cocktail.
1380
01:10:01,404 --> 01:10:04,579
So I got the whole
kinda what you're trying to do,
1381
01:10:04,614 --> 01:10:06,443
you know, exploration and beer
and so forth.
1382
01:10:06,478 --> 01:10:09,757
So, that's great.
I like the concept,
I like the name,
1383
01:10:09,791 --> 01:10:12,138
I like the variety,
I like the entire idea.
1384
01:10:12,173 --> 01:10:13,450
Where I think there's issues,
1385
01:10:13,485 --> 01:10:15,245
you still will need
to hire some key employees.
1386
01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:17,385
I have no doubt
that you can find them,
1387
01:10:17,420 --> 01:10:20,285
but to have to hire
the employee,
1388
01:10:20,319 --> 01:10:21,941
tell them they're not
gonna take salary,
1389
01:10:21,976 --> 01:10:25,497
and make them invest
in the company
in some form or fashion.
1390
01:10:25,531 --> 01:10:27,257
And knowing that they won't
be able to draw salary
1391
01:10:27,292 --> 01:10:30,467
probably for at least a year,
a year and a half, so forth,
that's tough,
1392
01:10:30,502 --> 01:10:32,089
because the person
you're probably getting,
1393
01:10:32,124 --> 01:10:33,850
unless it's
a very wealthy person
1394
01:10:33,884 --> 01:10:36,611
who just loves the business
and wants to be a part of it,
which is possible,
1395
01:10:36,646 --> 01:10:39,752
that seems a little far-fetched.
1396
01:10:39,787 --> 01:10:44,585
I would focus on,
"This is my passion.
I make a great beer.
1397
01:10:44,619 --> 01:10:48,036
Those two things together
can ultimately lead
to massive success
1398
01:10:48,071 --> 01:10:49,279
if I can operate."
1399
01:10:49,314 --> 01:10:50,625
Just from an
operations perspective,
1400
01:10:50,660 --> 01:10:52,903
saying you're gonna use
a used van for $15,000
1401
01:10:52,938 --> 01:10:56,390
and deliver the beer
to restaurants locally,
1402
01:10:56,424 --> 01:10:59,255
that's practical, right,
1403
01:10:59,289 --> 01:11:01,533
but it's kind of
a small-thinking detail
1404
01:11:01,567 --> 01:11:03,017
in terms of how
you're gonna run the business.
1405
01:11:03,051 --> 01:11:04,260
It's kind of glue, you know--
1406
01:11:04,294 --> 01:11:06,123
glue and paste in putting
the thing together
to a degree.
1407
01:11:06,158 --> 01:11:07,746
-You know what
I'm saying? Like...
-Oh, absolutely.
1408
01:11:07,780 --> 01:11:11,336
But again,
that's not a bad thing,
1409
01:11:11,370 --> 01:11:12,923
I just think you need
to take a step back
1410
01:11:12,958 --> 01:11:15,926
and look at the business
in its entirety
as a business.
1411
01:11:15,961 --> 01:11:18,998
I completely understand
and appreciate your criticism.
1412
01:11:19,033 --> 01:11:21,725
That is definitely something
that I'm gonna take
into consideration.
1413
01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:25,039
So, I don't think
this is something right now,
1414
01:11:25,073 --> 01:11:27,973
under this business plan
and under this stage,
that I would invest in.
1415
01:11:28,007 --> 01:11:30,631
-I would invest in you. Okay?
-[LAUGHS] Much appreciated.
1416
01:11:30,665 --> 01:11:32,736
But in this business plan,
as it stands right now,
1417
01:11:32,771 --> 01:11:34,290
I don't think it's
something that I would do,
1418
01:11:34,324 --> 01:11:37,500
but I think you're gonna
make this into something.
I really do,
1419
01:11:37,534 --> 01:11:39,225
um, because the beer is...
1420
01:11:39,260 --> 01:11:40,882
what is it? 40% alcohol?
1421
01:11:40,917 --> 01:11:43,022
I can't really
get my words out
at this point.
1422
01:11:43,057 --> 01:11:44,576
-[LAUGHING]
-But, uh, no.
1423
01:11:44,610 --> 01:11:47,613
But, um, I think, um...
I think it's great.
1424
01:11:49,305 --> 01:11:52,377
I probably should take
my keys by myself.
1425
01:11:52,411 --> 01:11:53,999
I can throw
the bottle caps away.
1426
01:11:54,033 --> 01:11:55,828
-That'd be wonderful.
Thank you.
-All right.
1427
01:11:57,140 --> 01:11:58,417
This way.
1428
01:12:01,386 --> 01:12:03,180
It's a beautiful house,
by the way.
1429
01:12:05,148 --> 01:12:06,529
Yeah, I can do that.
1430
01:12:06,563 --> 01:12:08,669
Well, if you get lost
in the Wilner Westport,
give me a ring.
1431
01:12:08,703 --> 01:12:10,395
I'll keep in touch
and I'll shoot you
that email.
1432
01:12:10,429 --> 01:12:11,810
That'd be wonderful.
Thank you so much.
1433
01:12:11,844 --> 01:12:13,881
-Have a great weekend.
All right, then.
-Take care.
1434
01:12:23,131 --> 01:12:25,479
Wow. Uh, God.
1435
01:12:25,513 --> 01:12:27,308
Um, I'm just...
1436
01:12:27,343 --> 01:12:29,034
I'm taking this all in.
1437
01:12:30,518 --> 01:12:33,659
Yeah, that went...
That went well.
1438
01:12:33,694 --> 01:12:36,697
Of course, there's no
investment yet,
1439
01:12:37,456 --> 01:12:38,940
but, yeah,
there's something there.
1440
01:12:38,975 --> 01:12:41,149
I've got something here,
1441
01:12:41,184 --> 01:12:43,980
and, finally, there's some
validation behind it.
1442
01:12:49,365 --> 01:12:51,021
[INDISTINCT CHATTER]
1443
01:12:52,644 --> 01:12:53,817
RAY: I'm Ray Daniels,
1444
01:12:53,852 --> 01:12:55,888
founder and directing
Cicerone Program.
1445
01:12:55,923 --> 01:12:59,409
And I will be one
of your oral examiners
for the next two days.
1446
01:12:59,444 --> 01:13:02,481
So be direct,
answer the question,
1447
01:13:02,516 --> 01:13:04,863
um, and stay on task.
1448
01:13:04,897 --> 01:13:07,590
If the examiner tries
to interrupt you to redirect,
1449
01:13:07,624 --> 01:13:09,074
listen to the examiner.
1450
01:13:09,108 --> 01:13:11,145
We're gonna be your friend
in that case.
1451
01:13:14,113 --> 01:13:15,701
BRIAN: You're just
feeling very tense.
1452
01:13:15,736 --> 01:13:18,842
You know, it's kind of
a high-stress
type of situation.
1453
01:13:18,877 --> 01:13:20,465
It's like everyone comes in
1454
01:13:20,499 --> 01:13:23,640
and everyone's trying
to pretend that they're,
like, real confident,
1455
01:13:23,675 --> 01:13:25,746
but no one's confident,
everyone's freaking out.
1456
01:13:25,780 --> 01:13:28,300
So, like, people are, like,
kinda, you know,
putting on airs,
1457
01:13:28,334 --> 01:13:29,474
puffing out their chests
a little bit.
1458
01:13:29,508 --> 01:13:31,510
A lot of kinda ego stuff
going on.
1459
01:13:31,545 --> 01:13:36,757
And then, by lunchtime,
it's like everyone's kind of
facade has been broken,
1460
01:13:36,791 --> 01:13:40,450
and is talking and chatting,
you know, as much as we can,
1461
01:13:40,485 --> 01:13:43,039
and just trying
to not freak out.
1462
01:13:43,073 --> 01:13:48,769
I mean, the kind of design
of the test is almost to just
put a lot of stress on you.
1463
01:13:53,463 --> 01:13:57,398
We're halfway
through day one
of the Master Cicerone exam.
1464
01:13:57,433 --> 01:13:59,296
In terms of
the candidate responses,
1465
01:13:59,331 --> 01:14:02,921
I was doing oral exams,
talking about beer styles.
1466
01:14:02,955 --> 01:14:06,476
And, boy,
the first candidate came in,
1467
01:14:06,511 --> 01:14:08,167
just really hit it
out of the park.
1468
01:14:08,202 --> 01:14:10,342
It's like, "Wow,
maybe this is too easy."
1469
01:14:10,376 --> 01:14:14,001
And then, the next
two or three, were like, "Okay, this is what I expect."
1470
01:14:14,035 --> 01:14:17,349
So I got pretty much
the usual range of results.
1471
01:14:18,661 --> 01:14:20,179
You could hardly
go wrong with those.
1472
01:14:20,214 --> 01:14:23,251
I mean, that's like,
it's close to universal beers,
1473
01:14:23,286 --> 01:14:24,563
like the brown ale or...
1474
01:14:24,598 --> 01:14:26,013
a typical lager or something.
1475
01:14:26,047 --> 01:14:27,324
It's so versatile.
1476
01:14:32,744 --> 01:14:35,125
BRIAN: At this point, three courses are way through,
1477
01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:37,231
I think a lot of people
just from talking to them,
1478
01:14:37,265 --> 01:14:39,751
are feeling like they're
probably out of the running,
1479
01:14:39,785 --> 01:14:41,511
so I'm feeling good,
1480
01:14:41,546 --> 01:14:43,409
and now, I'm more
on the homestretch.
1481
01:14:43,444 --> 01:14:45,239
[INDISTINCT CONVERSATION]
1482
01:15:09,228 --> 01:15:10,436
RAY: Congratulations.
1483
01:15:10,471 --> 01:15:12,818
You survived
the Master Cicerone exam.
1484
01:15:12,853 --> 01:15:14,406
And again, in some cases...
1485
01:15:16,097 --> 01:15:18,065
[EXAMINEES CHEERING]
1486
01:15:20,274 --> 01:15:23,242
I hope that you will find
it was rewarding,
1487
01:15:23,277 --> 01:15:27,523
and that it was
a learning experience,
regardless,
1488
01:15:27,557 --> 01:15:32,562
and it'll enhance your
future beer knowledge
one way or the other.
1489
01:15:32,597 --> 01:15:34,633
I just got to dinner
with the kids.
1490
01:15:34,668 --> 01:15:36,601
We go to a beer place
and walk in.
1491
01:15:36,635 --> 01:15:38,361
"Oh, Ray Daniels..."
1492
01:15:38,395 --> 01:15:42,054
He's like, "Dude, they're..."
I was like, "Yeah, I got this,
don't worry,
1493
01:15:42,089 --> 01:15:44,401
I'm a big fish
in a really small pond."
1494
01:15:45,230 --> 01:15:46,162
As my wife always says,
1495
01:15:46,196 --> 01:15:48,578
"Don't forget,
your only beer-famous."
1496
01:15:48,613 --> 01:15:50,200
[ALL LAUGHING]
1497
01:15:50,235 --> 01:15:52,858
-I want you to remember.
-I'm actually famous.
1498
01:15:53,445 --> 01:15:55,136
I want to remind you.
1499
01:15:57,794 --> 01:15:59,658
All right,
ladies and gentlemen,
1500
01:15:59,693 --> 01:16:02,730
congratulations on
completing the ordeal.
1501
01:16:02,765 --> 01:16:04,145
ALL: Cheers.
1502
01:16:05,940 --> 01:16:07,390
I mean, I'm feeling...
1503
01:16:07,424 --> 01:16:09,599
In my mind, I'm feeling
as good as I can feel.
1504
01:16:09,634 --> 01:16:11,912
Um, compared to last time,
1505
01:16:11,946 --> 01:16:15,363
I walked out feeling mediocre,
1506
01:16:15,398 --> 01:16:17,952
but thinking, you know,
I had a decent chance,
1507
01:16:17,987 --> 01:16:19,609
and it turned out,
I remember...
1508
01:16:19,644 --> 01:16:24,096
I remember a couple days
after I took the last year,
Jason was like,
1509
01:16:24,131 --> 01:16:26,858
"If you had to put money on it,
what would it say?
One way or the other."
1510
01:16:26,892 --> 01:16:28,618
And I said, you know,
he had to put a number on it.
1511
01:16:28,653 --> 01:16:33,519
And I said, like, "83, 84,
like, I really think
I just barely missed it.
1512
01:16:33,554 --> 01:16:37,420
"But I might be pleasantly
surprised and it ended up
being 83.6."
1513
01:16:37,454 --> 01:16:42,356
This time, if somebody said,
"Here's $1 million,
you gotta put it on yes or no."
1514
01:16:42,390 --> 01:16:43,909
I mean, I'd put it on yes.
1515
01:16:55,300 --> 01:16:57,371
RAY: Break some hearts
and make some days.
1516
01:16:59,269 --> 01:17:00,926
Ten phone calls to make.
1517
01:17:02,410 --> 01:17:04,067
Ten master candidates.
1518
01:17:05,690 --> 01:17:07,105
[CELL PHONE BEEPING]
1519
01:17:25,123 --> 01:17:29,265
We went over
to the old Goodwill,
dropped some stuff off.
1520
01:17:29,299 --> 01:17:31,923
We're moving
back to Pittsburgh,
1521
01:17:31,957 --> 01:17:34,373
which we've been
trying to do, you know...
1522
01:17:34,408 --> 01:17:36,582
When we moved up here,
we knew it was gonna
be temporary.
1523
01:17:36,617 --> 01:17:38,826
Uh, we thought we'd be here
a little bit longer,
1524
01:17:38,861 --> 01:17:40,725
but we got the opportunity
quicker than expected
1525
01:17:40,759 --> 01:17:42,692
to get back and still, you know,
1526
01:17:42,727 --> 01:17:45,281
do the same job
that I really, really like,
1527
01:17:45,315 --> 01:17:49,181
so, um, or a slightly
different version
of that same job,
1528
01:17:49,216 --> 01:17:51,839
which is...
or thrilled about.
1529
01:17:51,874 --> 01:17:53,427
But it happened
quicker than expected.
1530
01:17:53,461 --> 01:17:56,602
Pretty much packed.
We're kinda ready to go,
1531
01:17:56,637 --> 01:17:58,397
uh, here in a few days.
1532
01:17:59,709 --> 01:18:01,159
BRIAN: I'm glad you're here.
1533
01:18:02,919 --> 01:18:05,094
[BABY BABBLING]
1534
01:18:05,888 --> 01:18:08,511
So, I did not pass the exam.
1535
01:18:08,545 --> 01:18:12,446
Um, so I came,
again, very close.
1536
01:18:12,480 --> 01:18:15,829
I did just... actually,
slightly worse than last time,
1537
01:18:15,863 --> 01:18:17,347
which I don't...
1538
01:18:17,382 --> 01:18:20,730
Still struggling in my head
as to how the heck
that happened.
1539
01:18:20,765 --> 01:18:24,078
I'm really surprised,
frankly, that I didn't
pass this time.
1540
01:18:24,113 --> 01:18:27,323
I really had
a good feeling that, uh...
1541
01:18:27,357 --> 01:18:29,981
I felt like I did
just a little bit better
than last time,
1542
01:18:30,015 --> 01:18:31,707
which is all I needed to do.
1543
01:18:31,741 --> 01:18:34,123
And the score didn't
play out that way,
1544
01:18:34,157 --> 01:18:37,885
so I might just
kind of take a year,
1545
01:18:37,920 --> 01:18:39,784
and come back in 2018
and take it.
1546
01:18:39,818 --> 01:18:42,338
Maybe if they offer
one in the spring.
I really don't know.
1547
01:18:42,372 --> 01:18:45,341
It seems like they're only
gonna offer one
Master Cicerone this year.
1548
01:18:45,375 --> 01:18:48,620
It's... It's a tough pill
to swallow,
1549
01:18:48,654 --> 01:18:51,968
it's tough to stay motivated
and continue doing it,
1550
01:18:52,382 --> 01:18:53,556
but, um...
1551
01:18:55,144 --> 01:18:56,352
[SIGHS]
1552
01:18:56,386 --> 01:18:59,079
It's really hard
to put this much
work into something
1553
01:18:59,113 --> 01:19:02,496
and not, you know,
make it happen,
1554
01:19:03,773 --> 01:19:06,880
'cause it's, you know,
you kinda...
1555
01:19:06,914 --> 01:19:10,918
Like I said,
no matter how you,
I guess, uh...
1556
01:19:12,333 --> 01:19:14,094
cut it in your head,
1557
01:19:14,128 --> 01:19:15,820
there's, you know,
I left points
in the table.
1558
01:19:15,854 --> 01:19:19,996
And when you're that close,
you really can't afford
to do that. So...
1559
01:19:31,076 --> 01:19:33,665
DREW: Yeah, so what we got
going on here,
1560
01:19:33,699 --> 01:19:36,772
this is my jalapeno saison
1561
01:19:36,806 --> 01:19:40,016
which I brewed
just two weeks ago
1562
01:19:40,051 --> 01:19:42,916
because I actually forgot
that I was brewing
for this event
1563
01:19:42,950 --> 01:19:46,816
or should I say that this event
was coming up as rapidly
as it was.
1564
01:19:46,851 --> 01:19:49,336
So I actually had
to skip work for a day
1565
01:19:49,370 --> 01:19:51,579
and brew this beer
on a Monday.
1566
01:19:51,614 --> 01:19:55,583
And so, as a result,
it's called my
Hookie Jalapeno Saison,
1567
01:19:55,618 --> 01:19:59,553
in honor of having to skip
being a lawyer to become
a brewer for a little bit.
1568
01:20:01,279 --> 01:20:03,419
Almost forgot
the most important part.
1569
01:20:06,146 --> 01:20:07,561
Gotta get the branding there.
1570
01:20:09,943 --> 01:20:11,185
It's interesting.
1571
01:20:11,220 --> 01:20:13,670
So normally, you come
to a festival like this
1572
01:20:13,705 --> 01:20:15,465
and you expect a younger crowd,
1573
01:20:15,500 --> 01:20:18,537
people who are a little bit
more experimental in what
they're trying in beer.
1574
01:20:18,572 --> 01:20:21,299
This is a much older crowd,
1575
01:20:21,333 --> 01:20:25,406
so it's gonna be even more
of an uphill battle,
and even more fun.
1576
01:20:25,441 --> 01:20:27,512
This is where the lawyer
and the brewer come in together.
1577
01:20:27,546 --> 01:20:30,273
The lawyer convinces you
to drink the beer
that the brewer made.
1578
01:20:30,308 --> 01:20:32,172
At least that's the way
I like to think of myself,
1579
01:20:32,206 --> 01:20:34,760
but hopefully I'll
convince some people do that.
1580
01:20:34,795 --> 01:20:36,279
Say, while I run down
the line...
1581
01:20:36,314 --> 01:20:37,487
I don't mean
to catch you guys off.
1582
01:20:37,522 --> 01:20:39,248
Will you just pour for me
if anybody comes up?
1583
01:20:39,282 --> 01:20:40,870
Yeah, thank you, man.
I appreciate it.
1584
01:20:40,905 --> 01:20:42,907
And I'll do the same
for you, obviously.
1585
01:20:42,941 --> 01:20:44,909
You get so much of that lime
on the nose,
1586
01:20:44,943 --> 01:20:48,257
and then everything else
come in through the rest.
Thank you, Ma'am.
1587
01:20:48,291 --> 01:20:50,500
Oh, shoot.
I gotta get back to work.
1588
01:20:51,018 --> 01:20:53,020
[INDISTINCT CHATTER]
1589
01:20:54,159 --> 01:20:56,265
Sorry, guys,
I abandoned my post.
1590
01:20:56,713 --> 01:20:58,301
All right.
1591
01:20:58,336 --> 01:21:00,407
Just a little.
Just a little guy.
1592
01:21:01,787 --> 01:21:02,650
Good.
1593
01:21:03,824 --> 01:21:05,722
-Let's do cheers.
-Cheers.
1594
01:21:05,757 --> 01:21:07,069
To jalapenos.
1595
01:21:07,759 --> 01:21:09,554
-What's your name?
-Drew.
1596
01:21:09,588 --> 01:21:10,727
And to Drew.
1597
01:21:10,762 --> 01:21:12,039
Drew's Brews.
1598
01:21:16,941 --> 01:21:18,149
I like it.
1599
01:21:23,188 --> 01:21:25,535
-Little surprise there, huh?
-Really kick.
1600
01:21:26,053 --> 01:21:27,296
Va-va-voom.
1601
01:21:27,330 --> 01:21:30,471
[LAUGHS] That's the best
response I've ever gotten.
1602
01:21:33,681 --> 01:21:35,269
-This is good.
-Yeah?
1603
01:21:35,304 --> 01:21:37,168
-You're a fan?
-Very good. It's different.
1604
01:21:37,202 --> 01:21:38,859
Different, that's what
I'm going for.
1605
01:21:38,894 --> 01:21:40,102
It's different. It's very good.
1606
01:21:40,999 --> 01:21:42,898
-Just give me a little.
-Little test.
1607
01:21:42,932 --> 01:21:45,935
-Thank you.
-No problem.
Thank you for trying it out.
1608
01:21:45,970 --> 01:21:47,557
Oh, it smells like jalapeno.
1609
01:21:47,592 --> 01:21:49,352
It smells like
it's gonna give you heat,
1610
01:21:49,387 --> 01:21:51,113
but when you taste it,
your tongue will be like,
1611
01:21:51,147 --> 01:21:53,149
-"What the heck just happened?"
-Whoo!
1612
01:21:59,845 --> 01:22:00,950
-That's...
-Give me a little bit more?
1613
01:22:00,985 --> 01:22:03,056
Yes, please. All right.
1614
01:22:04,574 --> 01:22:06,749
-There you are.
-It's hot, but it's sweet.
1615
01:22:07,750 --> 01:22:08,958
WOMAN: Wow.
1616
01:22:08,993 --> 01:22:10,373
Yeah, you guys fans?
1617
01:22:10,408 --> 01:22:12,858
Huge market for this.
All my kids.
1618
01:22:12,893 --> 01:22:15,482
So far, uh,
it's been freaking great.
1619
01:22:15,516 --> 01:22:17,725
I mean, I'd probably
respond the same way
1620
01:22:17,760 --> 01:22:20,349
if everybody walked right here
and hated my beer.
1621
01:22:20,383 --> 01:22:23,421
I just like being here
and interacting
with the people.
1622
01:22:23,455 --> 01:22:25,526
But it's been exactly
what I've wanted
1623
01:22:25,561 --> 01:22:29,634
in a sense that everybody
for the most part
who's come up
1624
01:22:29,668 --> 01:22:32,982
has come up here very quizzical, very skeptical.
1625
01:22:33,017 --> 01:22:34,984
I've been hauling
people from afar,
1626
01:22:35,019 --> 01:22:37,124
and seeing,
watching their mouths go,
1627
01:22:37,159 --> 01:22:39,989
"Jalapeno? I don't know
if I want jalapeno."
1628
01:22:40,024 --> 01:22:42,302
"No, no, you do!
Come over here."
1629
01:22:42,336 --> 01:22:45,891
And I think... I think
I've proselytized enough.
1630
01:22:45,926 --> 01:22:47,617
I've converted
a few to the flock.
1631
01:22:47,652 --> 01:22:51,552
In fact, I have this
lovely woman who keeps
coming back for more and more.
1632
01:22:51,587 --> 01:22:53,037
And that's why I'm here.
1633
01:22:53,071 --> 01:22:56,695
If there was just that woman
and everybody else
hated this beer,
1634
01:22:56,730 --> 01:22:58,525
I'd be the happiest
camper in the world.
1635
01:22:58,559 --> 01:23:00,630
I could stand for another
12 and a half hours.
1636
01:23:00,665 --> 01:23:03,702
I don't care.
This is what makes me happy.
1637
01:23:03,737 --> 01:23:05,152
This is why I do this.
1638
01:23:06,602 --> 01:23:08,638
Thank you again, guys.
Take care.
1639
01:23:08,673 --> 01:23:09,812
All the best, okay.
1640
01:23:09,846 --> 01:23:12,504
This was so much fun.
Thank you for having me, guys.
1641
01:23:24,275 --> 01:23:26,415
JIM: There are anthropologists
who believed
1642
01:23:26,449 --> 01:23:29,590
that the reason
that human beings
1643
01:23:29,625 --> 01:23:33,215
settled down, you know,
into communities
1644
01:23:33,249 --> 01:23:36,425
and created civilization
was in order to make beer.
1645
01:23:36,459 --> 01:23:40,118
It's so satisfying
to come up out
of that basement brewery
1646
01:23:40,153 --> 01:23:43,294
and to see people,
after a long, hard day of work
1647
01:23:43,328 --> 01:23:45,399
or whatever things that
they've been experiencing,
1648
01:23:45,434 --> 01:23:49,265
to sit down
and to take what you created
1649
01:23:49,300 --> 01:23:51,095
and to take
so much pleasure in it,
1650
01:23:51,129 --> 01:23:57,860
and to have that
be the blossom for friendship
and conversation and thought.
1651
01:24:00,311 --> 01:24:02,416
It's like collecting
baseball cards at this point.
1652
01:24:02,451 --> 01:24:04,625
We got to talk about
all the different styles
1653
01:24:04,660 --> 01:24:07,076
and places and times
you had beer.
1654
01:24:07,111 --> 01:24:09,527
I think it's the way
that concerts and music,
1655
01:24:09,561 --> 01:24:11,563
and things people love
and are passionate about,
1656
01:24:11,598 --> 01:24:13,462
they're now collecting
these beer stories.
1657
01:24:13,496 --> 01:24:15,671
And beers,
as a way of life,
1658
01:24:15,705 --> 01:24:18,501
just something to talk about
and relate with other people.
1659
01:24:18,536 --> 01:24:21,366
People wanna know
where their beer came from.
1660
01:24:21,401 --> 01:24:22,988
It means something to them.
1661
01:24:23,023 --> 01:24:26,406
If they can buy beer
from a brewery
1662
01:24:26,440 --> 01:24:29,029
that they know,
that they can relate to,
1663
01:24:29,064 --> 01:24:31,031
that's part of the community.
1664
01:24:31,066 --> 01:24:34,897
The fact that I have the freedom
to come up with anything
in my wildest imagination,
1665
01:24:34,931 --> 01:24:38,521
and a month later,
share it with beer-lovers
at our pub,
1666
01:24:38,556 --> 01:24:41,110
is what gets me up every day.
1667
01:24:41,145 --> 01:24:44,700
It really is something that
you get to do something
you're passionate about,
1668
01:24:44,734 --> 01:24:46,667
and that's one of the things
that I, you know,
1669
01:24:46,702 --> 01:24:48,221
I'm lucky enough
to wake up every day
1670
01:24:48,255 --> 01:24:50,637
and know that, um,
I do what I love.
1671
01:24:52,535 --> 01:24:54,296
If you fall in love
with something,
1672
01:24:54,330 --> 01:24:58,196
say, it's jazz, you know,
or it's baseball,
1673
01:24:58,231 --> 01:25:00,750
somebody played you
your first Coltrane record
1674
01:25:00,785 --> 01:25:03,305
somebody took you
to your first baseball game,
1675
01:25:03,339 --> 01:25:06,273
and on that day,
a little door swings open.
1676
01:25:06,308 --> 01:25:08,482
On the other side
is a better life.
1677
01:25:09,345 --> 01:25:11,036
That's what we're doing.
1678
01:25:11,071 --> 01:25:13,936
We're here to bring you
a better life.
1679
01:25:15,282 --> 01:25:16,318
That is urgent.
1680
01:25:16,352 --> 01:25:18,320
[LAUGHS] It's very urgent.
1681
01:25:18,354 --> 01:25:21,978
I'm not entirely sure
there's anything more urgent.
1682
01:25:23,463 --> 01:25:26,569
["BEER BOTTLE BOOGIE" PLAYING]
1683
01:25:26,604 --> 01:25:30,504
So, right now,
the primary fermentation
is more or less complete,
1684
01:25:30,539 --> 01:25:32,403
it looks like.
Uh, you don't see...
1685
01:25:32,437 --> 01:25:35,854
When you have what's called
"high krausen," like the peak
of fermentation,
1686
01:25:35,889 --> 01:25:41,550
you get a big old,
kinda cloud of, uh,
CO2 and foam,
1687
01:25:41,584 --> 01:25:44,104
what looks like kind of
a head on top of the beer.
1688
01:25:44,139 --> 01:25:46,175
♪ Beer bottle boogie
1689
01:25:46,210 --> 01:25:51,629
♪ I have the beer bottle boogie Way down deep inside ♪
1690
01:25:53,458 --> 01:25:57,013
♪ I went home that night
About half past ten ♪
1691
01:25:57,048 --> 01:26:00,534
♪ The door was locked
And I couldn't get in ♪
1692
01:26:00,569 --> 01:26:03,882
♪ I step around
To the backyard gate ♪
1693
01:26:03,917 --> 01:26:06,747
♪ Somethin' was a-comin'
But I ducked too late ♪
1694
01:26:06,782 --> 01:26:09,336
♪ I have
The beer bottle boogie ♪
1695
01:26:10,337 --> 01:26:13,133
♪ I have
The beer bottle boogie ♪
1696
01:26:13,168 --> 01:26:18,725
♪ I have the beer bottle boogie Way down deep inside ♪
1697
01:26:20,865 --> 01:26:24,386
♪ After a while
I began to come around ♪
1698
01:26:24,420 --> 01:26:27,699
♪ I got up
Over that dirty ground ♪
1699
01:26:30,461 --> 01:26:32,428
Break some hearts
and make some days.
1700
01:26:34,016 --> 01:26:37,295
♪ She had
The beer bottle boogie ♪
1701
01:26:37,330 --> 01:26:39,849
♪ I have
The beer bottle boogie ♪
1702
01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:43,405
Hi, Brian, Ray Daniels.
1703
01:26:45,648 --> 01:26:47,063
Doing all right.
How about yourself?
1704
01:27:08,913 --> 01:27:12,468
♪ Last night I was sittin'
In the diamond box ♪
1705
01:27:12,503 --> 01:27:16,092
♪ I was all hepped up
Like a shooting star ♪
1706
01:27:16,127 --> 01:27:19,475
♪ A-rockin' and a-reelin'
And acting like a fool ♪
1707
01:27:19,510 --> 01:27:22,513
♪ The next thing I knew
I fell off of my stool ♪
1708
01:27:22,547 --> 01:27:24,756
♪ I had
The beer bottle boogie ♪
1709
01:27:25,826 --> 01:27:28,760
♪ I had
The beer bottle boogie ♪
1710
01:27:28,795 --> 01:27:34,594
♪ I had the beer bottle boogie Way down deep inside ♪
1711
01:27:36,009 --> 01:27:39,668
♪ Well, the bartender kicked me In the seat of the pants ♪
1712
01:27:39,702 --> 01:27:43,154
♪ He said get out of here, boy You ain't got a chance ♪
1713
01:27:43,188 --> 01:27:46,261
♪ I started toward the door
The bottle was flying ♪
1714
01:27:46,295 --> 01:27:49,643
♪ One caught me on the head
And I started to cry ♪
1715
01:27:49,678 --> 01:27:51,956
♪ I had
The beer bottle boogie ♪
1716
01:27:53,026 --> 01:27:56,167
♪ I had
The beer bottle boogie ♪
1717
01:27:56,201 --> 01:28:01,828
♪ I had the beer bottle boogie Way down deep inside ♪
1718
01:28:04,762 --> 01:28:07,661
♪ I had
The beer bottle boogie ♪
1719
01:28:07,696 --> 01:28:10,319
♪ She had
The beer bottle boogie ♪
1720
01:28:10,354 --> 01:28:13,702
♪ Way down deep inside
1721
01:28:36,069 --> 01:28:39,659
♪ Last night I was sittin'
In the diamond box ♪
1722
01:28:39,693 --> 01:28:43,179
♪ I was all hepped up
Like a shooting star ♪
1723
01:28:43,214 --> 01:28:46,597
♪ A-rockin' and a-reelin'
And acting like a fool ♪
1724
01:28:46,631 --> 01:28:49,634
♪ The next thing I knew
I fell off of my stool ♪
1725
01:28:49,669 --> 01:28:51,947
♪ I had
The beer bottle boogie ♪
1726
01:28:52,879 --> 01:28:55,916
♪ I had
The beer bottle boogie ♪
1727
01:28:55,951 --> 01:29:01,784
♪ I had the beer bottle boogie Way down deep inside ♪
1728
01:29:03,130 --> 01:29:06,824
♪ Well, the bartender kicked me In the seat of the pants ♪
1729
01:29:06,858 --> 01:29:10,275
♪ He said get out of here, boy You ain't got a chance ♪
1730
01:29:10,310 --> 01:29:13,693
♪ I started toward the door
The bottle was flying ♪
1731
01:29:13,727 --> 01:29:16,834
♪ One caught me on the head
And I started to cry ♪
1732
01:29:16,868 --> 01:29:19,112
♪ I had
The beer bottle boogie ♪
1733
01:29:20,424 --> 01:29:23,185
♪ I had
The beer bottle boogie ♪
1734
01:29:23,219 --> 01:29:30,054
♪ I had the beer bottle boogie Way down deep inside ♪
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