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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:01:17,816 --> 00:01:19,644 During my eight years as 2 00:01:19,688 --> 00:01:21,559 the Chief Official White House Photographer 3 00:01:21,603 --> 00:01:25,172 for the Obama administration, 4 00:01:25,215 --> 00:01:30,177 I documented all the important moments of his presidency. 5 00:01:30,220 --> 00:01:33,310 The emotion, 6 00:01:33,354 --> 00:01:36,226 the tough decisions, 7 00:01:36,270 --> 00:01:39,534 the stressful times, 8 00:01:39,577 --> 00:01:43,146 the fun times. 9 00:01:43,190 --> 00:01:46,889 But also showing what he was like as a dad... 10 00:01:48,369 --> 00:01:51,154 ...as a husband, 11 00:01:51,198 --> 00:01:53,374 just as a human being. 12 00:01:55,289 --> 00:01:57,508 To me, that shows 13 00:01:57,552 --> 00:02:01,164 how the job of the president should be done. 14 00:02:35,503 --> 00:02:38,549 I think it's my right as an American citizen 15 00:02:38,593 --> 00:02:41,378 to speak out when I see wrong. 16 00:02:41,422 --> 00:02:45,077 And I really come at this from a unique perspective, 17 00:02:45,121 --> 00:02:46,731 not just as a former photojournalist 18 00:02:46,775 --> 00:02:48,559 but also having worked for 19 00:02:48,603 --> 00:02:50,561 both the Obama and Reagan administrations, 20 00:02:50,605 --> 00:02:54,174 and seeing what it's like on the inside of a presidency... 21 00:02:56,176 --> 00:02:57,568 ...whether you agree or disagree 22 00:02:57,612 --> 00:02:59,962 with a president's policies, 23 00:03:00,005 --> 00:03:01,746 how that president should behave. 24 00:03:10,146 --> 00:03:12,453 I'm gonna throw some shade tonight, if that's okay. 25 00:03:14,542 --> 00:03:19,111 But I want to tell you first how I... how I got there. 26 00:03:46,182 --> 00:03:51,143 So, if we go back to January 20, 2017, 27 00:03:51,187 --> 00:03:55,365 President Obama left his successor a personal note 28 00:03:55,409 --> 00:03:58,412 and stuck it in the drawer of the Resolute desk. 29 00:03:58,455 --> 00:04:03,155 And the last line of the note was: 30 00:04:03,199 --> 00:04:05,593 "Michelle and I wish you and Melania the very best 31 00:04:05,636 --> 00:04:08,160 "as you embark on this great adventure. 32 00:04:08,204 --> 00:04:10,293 "And know that we stand ready to help 33 00:04:10,337 --> 00:04:12,556 "in any ways which we can. 34 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,559 Good luck, and Godspeed." 35 00:04:15,603 --> 00:04:18,649 With that, he left the Oval Office for the last time. 36 00:04:18,693 --> 00:04:20,564 -Good morning, everybody. 37 00:04:20,608 --> 00:04:22,262 Good morning, sir. 38 00:04:23,306 --> 00:04:25,177 Take care, sir. 39 00:04:25,221 --> 00:04:27,441 -Thank you. -Bye, sir. -Thank you, guys. 40 00:04:28,572 --> 00:04:32,663 He went and said goodbyeto the household staff: 41 00:04:32,707 --> 00:04:35,536 butlers, ushers, groundkeepers. 42 00:04:35,579 --> 00:04:37,842 And Von Everett, who is one of the butlers 43 00:04:37,886 --> 00:04:39,801 and had been there since the Reagan years-- 44 00:04:39,844 --> 00:04:42,107 you can imagine what it was like for him 45 00:04:42,151 --> 00:04:44,109 to have been there for the first 46 00:04:44,153 --> 00:04:46,068 African American president. 47 00:04:46,111 --> 00:04:47,591 There's a tradition that 48 00:04:47,635 --> 00:04:49,550 the incoming president comes to the White House 49 00:04:49,593 --> 00:04:53,205 the morning before the inauguration for a reception. 50 00:04:54,642 --> 00:04:57,862 After everyone else had finally boarded the motorcade, 51 00:04:57,906 --> 00:05:00,212 President Obama took Trump aside 52 00:05:00,256 --> 00:05:04,304 to brief him on a pending national security issue. 53 00:05:04,347 --> 00:05:06,697 Uh, he escorted Trump to the limousine. 54 00:05:06,741 --> 00:05:08,656 They had to ride in the limousine 55 00:05:08,699 --> 00:05:10,701 to the Capitol together. 56 00:05:12,181 --> 00:05:14,183 The guy on the far left is Mike White. 57 00:05:14,226 --> 00:05:15,445 He was the head of 58 00:05:15,489 --> 00:05:17,273 the Presidential Protective Division 59 00:05:17,317 --> 00:05:18,796 of the Secret Service. 60 00:05:18,840 --> 00:05:21,756 And you always see the person in that position 61 00:05:21,799 --> 00:05:24,802 behind the president or behind the first lady. 62 00:05:31,766 --> 00:05:33,376 As they were leaving the podium, 63 00:05:33,420 --> 00:05:36,814 I now notice that Mike White and his deputy 64 00:05:36,858 --> 00:05:41,428 were behind Trump and Melania and not behind President Obama. 65 00:05:41,471 --> 00:05:42,864 That's when it really hit me 66 00:05:42,907 --> 00:05:45,388 that this for real had happened. 67 00:06:42,706 --> 00:06:46,667 You know, if I go back to January 20, 2017... 68 00:06:47,842 --> 00:06:49,931 ...I'm ready for the job to be done 69 00:06:49,974 --> 00:06:51,498 because, you know, it just takes 70 00:06:51,541 --> 00:06:54,457 so much out of you physically and mentally. 71 00:06:54,501 --> 00:06:57,982 There was a sense of relief-- 72 00:06:58,026 --> 00:06:59,636 almost excitement-- 73 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:03,335 that I would not have a BlackBerry with me 74 00:07:03,379 --> 00:07:08,384 24-7-365 for eight years anymore. 75 00:07:08,428 --> 00:07:10,473 You have no idea 76 00:07:10,517 --> 00:07:15,522 how good of a feeling it was to be done with that. 77 00:07:17,828 --> 00:07:22,485 But there was a sense of disbelief 78 00:07:22,529 --> 00:07:25,445 and worry. 79 00:07:25,488 --> 00:07:28,665 I was-- I really was concerned 80 00:07:28,709 --> 00:07:31,842 for the... the country. 81 00:07:31,886 --> 00:07:34,932 To this day, I have that same feeling. 82 00:07:41,373 --> 00:07:45,377 I'm not literally in the room anymore, 83 00:07:45,421 --> 00:07:48,511 but I know what happens in the room, 84 00:07:48,555 --> 00:07:50,252 and that's what scares me 85 00:07:50,295 --> 00:07:52,689 about what's happening today in the Oval Office. 86 00:07:59,391 --> 00:08:01,393 After I left the White House, 87 00:08:01,437 --> 00:08:03,874 I started this personal Instagram account. 88 00:08:03,918 --> 00:08:07,008 My intention was to highlight some of the photographs 89 00:08:07,051 --> 00:08:09,271 that I had made throughout my career. 90 00:08:09,314 --> 00:08:11,012 I never intended to be vocal 91 00:08:11,055 --> 00:08:13,275 in any way about what was going on. 92 00:08:18,367 --> 00:08:21,413 So, the first day, he came to me 93 00:08:21,457 --> 00:08:24,939 with his photo that he wanted to post on Instagram 94 00:08:24,982 --> 00:08:27,332 with the president sitting on the Resolute desk 95 00:08:27,376 --> 00:08:29,421 and the red curtains, 96 00:08:29,465 --> 00:08:32,468 and he wrote a caption, something like, 97 00:08:32,512 --> 00:08:34,688 "I like the old curtains better. 98 00:08:34,731 --> 00:08:36,559 What did you think?" 99 00:08:36,603 --> 00:08:38,561 And I said, "You can't say that." 100 00:08:38,605 --> 00:08:41,912 Because he had spent eight years having no voice 101 00:08:41,956 --> 00:08:44,567 and no opinion of what was going on, 102 00:08:44,611 --> 00:08:47,091 and suddenly, here's an opinion about drapes. 103 00:08:47,135 --> 00:08:49,441 And I said, "You can't do that." 104 00:08:49,485 --> 00:08:52,880 Now, what I didn't tell you is I had just seen a picture 105 00:08:52,923 --> 00:08:55,360 of the redecorated Oval Office 106 00:08:55,404 --> 00:08:57,058 with these gold, ornate curtains. 107 00:08:57,101 --> 00:09:00,061 And there was even a comment on that very first post 108 00:09:00,104 --> 00:09:02,759 from somebody that said, 109 00:09:02,803 --> 00:09:06,633 "Pete is dropping shade with a comment on drapes." 110 00:09:08,591 --> 00:09:10,027 And I-I have to admit 111 00:09:10,071 --> 00:09:12,682 I had no idea what "dropping shade" meant. 112 00:09:13,727 --> 00:09:15,555 I knew what I was doing. 113 00:09:15,598 --> 00:09:18,993 I just didn't know it was calleddropping or throwing shade. 114 00:09:24,564 --> 00:09:25,956 -Don't be rude. -Mr. President-elect, 115 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:27,784 -can you give us a question? -Don't be rude. 116 00:09:27,828 --> 00:09:29,569 You're attacking us. Can you give us a question? 117 00:09:29,612 --> 00:09:30,787 -Don't be rude. -Can you give us a question? 118 00:09:30,831 --> 00:09:32,528 No, I'm not gonna give you a que... 119 00:09:32,572 --> 00:09:33,921 When you report fake news, which CNN does a lot, 120 00:09:33,964 --> 00:09:35,618 you are the enemy of the people. 121 00:09:35,662 --> 00:09:37,011 -Go ahead. - Mr. President... 122 00:10:00,774 --> 00:10:02,036 Hi, Pete. 123 00:10:02,079 --> 00:10:03,646 Welcome to India. 124 00:10:03,690 --> 00:10:05,648 Thank you. It's-it's nice to be here. 125 00:10:05,692 --> 00:10:08,825 Is there hope for photojournalism? 126 00:10:08,869 --> 00:10:11,611 I think there's a lot of people doing a lot of great work, 127 00:10:11,654 --> 00:10:13,438 but it-it doesn't help 128 00:10:13,482 --> 00:10:15,876 when the president of the United States 129 00:10:15,919 --> 00:10:19,096 calls journalists fake news and the enemy of the people. 130 00:10:19,140 --> 00:10:21,533 I think that's really dangerous. 131 00:10:21,577 --> 00:10:24,754 I-I think our president is causing grave damage 132 00:10:24,798 --> 00:10:27,452 to the institution of the free press. 133 00:10:28,236 --> 00:10:30,804 We have with us the former 134 00:10:30,847 --> 00:10:33,807 Chief Official White House Photographer 135 00:10:33,850 --> 00:10:37,637 to the U.S. Presidents Ronald Reagan and Barack Obama. 136 00:10:37,680 --> 00:10:40,161 -Please welcome to the stage 137 00:10:40,204 --> 00:10:43,643 Pete Joseph Souza! 138 00:10:55,611 --> 00:10:57,569 I want to ask you as a photojournalist-- 139 00:10:57,613 --> 00:11:01,182 your commitment while photographing is to the truth, 140 00:11:01,225 --> 00:11:04,446 but when you're the Chief White House Photographer, 141 00:11:04,489 --> 00:11:07,928 uh, when you're consciously or subconsciously building 142 00:11:07,971 --> 00:11:13,585 a public image of brand Obama, was there ever a conflict? 143 00:11:13,629 --> 00:11:15,500 Yeah, I think that's a good question. 144 00:11:15,544 --> 00:11:18,242 I often say to people, though my background 145 00:11:18,286 --> 00:11:20,505 is-is a photojournalist, 146 00:11:20,549 --> 00:11:23,726 certainly, when you're the Chief White House Photographer, 147 00:11:23,770 --> 00:11:26,381 you're-you're working for the government. 148 00:11:26,424 --> 00:11:28,600 But so, I didn't ever think of it as a conflict, 149 00:11:28,644 --> 00:11:32,692 because it wasn't... I wasn't a PR photographer. 150 00:11:32,735 --> 00:11:35,999 I look at myself as a historian with a camera. 151 00:11:39,350 --> 00:11:41,831 The job as the Chief OfficialWhite House Photographer 152 00:11:41,875 --> 00:11:45,748 is to visually document the presidency for history. 153 00:11:45,792 --> 00:11:48,359 So, when inauguration rolled around, 154 00:11:48,403 --> 00:11:50,622 I had in the back of my mind, 155 00:11:50,666 --> 00:11:52,755 for the journey I was about to take, 156 00:11:52,799 --> 00:11:54,714 this thought: 157 00:11:54,757 --> 00:11:58,282 make authentic photographs. 158 00:11:59,370 --> 00:12:02,243 Think mood, 159 00:12:02,286 --> 00:12:04,767 emotion, 160 00:12:04,811 --> 00:12:08,031 context. 161 00:12:08,075 --> 00:12:11,556 Be ready for the fleeting moments 162 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,255 both big and small. 163 00:12:17,432 --> 00:12:19,564 My goal was to create 164 00:12:19,608 --> 00:12:22,524 the best photographic archive of a president 165 00:12:22,567 --> 00:12:25,266 that had ever been done. 166 00:12:25,309 --> 00:12:28,399 Lasting images for history. 167 00:12:30,837 --> 00:12:34,797 The origination of my office was a military office 168 00:12:34,841 --> 00:12:37,887 during the Kennedy administration. 169 00:12:37,931 --> 00:12:41,978 LBJ wanted somebody to cover everything, 170 00:12:42,022 --> 00:12:44,633 and he hired this guy named Yoichi Okamoto, 171 00:12:44,676 --> 00:12:47,767 who had traveled with him as vice president. 172 00:12:49,507 --> 00:12:52,293 And, you know, Johnson was such a character 173 00:12:52,336 --> 00:12:54,991 and Okamoto was such a great photographer 174 00:12:55,035 --> 00:12:58,952 that his pictures are just amazing. 175 00:12:58,995 --> 00:13:01,606 You know, more than anyone, 176 00:13:01,650 --> 00:13:05,306 his work was the kind of work that I wanted to do. 177 00:13:05,349 --> 00:13:08,831 I wanted the level of access that Okamoto had to Johnson. 178 00:13:08,875 --> 00:13:13,662 That's sort of what I was striving for with Obama. 179 00:13:15,795 --> 00:13:17,797 Photographs can tell a story 180 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:20,408 just as a book can tell a story. 181 00:13:20,451 --> 00:13:23,411 And it's a very special thing because it breaks down 182 00:13:23,454 --> 00:13:26,980 the idea that these people are somehow different from us. 183 00:13:29,634 --> 00:13:31,593 Yes, they have different responsibilities, 184 00:13:31,636 --> 00:13:33,421 yes, they have greater anxieties, 185 00:13:33,464 --> 00:13:36,816 but they're leading a life that has a daily ritual to it. 186 00:13:40,907 --> 00:13:43,083 Think I knew how the job should be done, 187 00:13:43,126 --> 00:13:45,955 having worked for the Reagan administration, too. 188 00:13:55,660 --> 00:13:57,053 The White House photo editor 189 00:13:57,097 --> 00:13:58,925 called me up one day out of the blue 190 00:13:58,968 --> 00:14:00,970 and said, "We want you to apply for this job." 191 00:14:01,014 --> 00:14:03,016 It was totally unexpected. 192 00:14:03,059 --> 00:14:04,974 You know, I'm in my 20s, 193 00:14:05,018 --> 00:14:07,107 and I'd never met a president before. 194 00:14:07,150 --> 00:14:09,892 And I was just nervous. 195 00:14:09,936 --> 00:14:12,895 It was kind of, like, just sort of overwhelming to me. 196 00:14:14,897 --> 00:14:17,639 I actually turned it down at first. 197 00:14:17,682 --> 00:14:21,861 A, I was not really that into politics. 198 00:14:21,904 --> 00:14:26,039 B, I was really not the biggest fan of Reagan. 199 00:14:26,082 --> 00:14:29,520 Five ways of photography. 200 00:14:35,744 --> 00:14:37,528 Well, this is familiar. 201 00:14:39,574 --> 00:14:42,490 But you hope that what you're doing 202 00:14:42,533 --> 00:14:44,405 is important for history, right? 203 00:14:44,448 --> 00:14:46,929 Used to say journalism is the first draft of history. 204 00:14:46,973 --> 00:14:49,018 And I'm thinking, like, here's a chance 205 00:14:49,062 --> 00:14:52,761 to actually be involved in documenting history. 206 00:14:52,804 --> 00:14:55,807 The Photograph Office, 207 00:14:55,851 --> 00:14:58,810 primarily, it was myself and Fitz and Jack, 208 00:14:58,854 --> 00:15:02,466 and then Pete-- but we were very much a team. 209 00:15:02,510 --> 00:15:04,512 Let's lock that sucker down. 210 00:15:04,555 --> 00:15:07,471 Working at the White House as the first woman 211 00:15:07,515 --> 00:15:09,517 official photographer 212 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:13,042 was a humbling experience. 213 00:15:13,086 --> 00:15:17,090 I was recording for history. 214 00:15:17,133 --> 00:15:18,961 -Now, is Pete in? 215 00:15:19,005 --> 00:15:20,658 Is Pete nice and clear? 216 00:15:20,702 --> 00:15:23,748 -Yes. -Okay. Okay. 217 00:15:23,792 --> 00:15:25,620 The orchestration of 218 00:15:25,663 --> 00:15:27,578 television coverage absorbs the White House. 219 00:15:27,622 --> 00:15:30,625 They provide pictures of him looking like a leader, 220 00:15:30,668 --> 00:15:33,497 confident with his Marlboro Man walk. 221 00:15:33,541 --> 00:15:35,760 A good family man. 222 00:15:35,804 --> 00:15:37,110 The White House has become 223 00:15:37,153 --> 00:15:39,155 more and more of a stage, a theater, 224 00:15:39,199 --> 00:15:41,027 and the question has become: 225 00:15:41,070 --> 00:15:43,681 are the television networks gonna manage that theater? 226 00:15:43,725 --> 00:15:45,248 Are they gonna manage that stage? 227 00:15:45,292 --> 00:15:47,511 -Or is the White House gonna do that? -Get ready. 228 00:15:47,555 --> 00:15:49,949 They were very aware of 229 00:15:49,992 --> 00:15:52,995 creating the best backdrop possible for TV networks 230 00:15:53,039 --> 00:15:55,084 and Timeand Newsweek. 231 00:15:58,131 --> 00:16:00,220 Now, do you want us oneither side of the tree or what? 232 00:16:00,263 --> 00:16:01,786 Well, we... 233 00:16:01,830 --> 00:16:03,571 I think they want to do one standing, 234 00:16:03,614 --> 00:16:04,964 but I think, for release purposes, 235 00:16:05,007 --> 00:16:07,096 it'd be better to have you doing something, 236 00:16:07,140 --> 00:16:09,838 and my suggestion was watering the tree. 237 00:16:09,881 --> 00:16:12,623 We have two shovels. We have a chain saw. 238 00:16:12,667 --> 00:16:14,625 -No, please. 239 00:16:14,669 --> 00:16:16,105 Pete, it's too hot. 240 00:16:16,149 --> 00:16:17,846 Can we just do a watering the tree? 241 00:16:17,889 --> 00:16:19,979 -Watering the tree is fine. -All right. 242 00:16:21,067 --> 00:16:22,938 -Uh... -Ah! 243 00:16:24,766 --> 00:16:26,246 -Did you get that, Pete? -Yeah. 244 00:16:26,289 --> 00:16:28,683 -You did, huh? 245 00:16:32,687 --> 00:16:35,603 I've got an idea for another picture. 246 00:16:36,865 --> 00:16:38,998 -Just one more. 247 00:16:39,041 --> 00:16:41,000 I've got the chain saw. 248 00:16:41,043 --> 00:16:43,263 No, and you're blocking me off. 249 00:16:43,306 --> 00:16:45,526 Stopping me from... 250 00:16:45,569 --> 00:16:46,788 Don't just stand there. 251 00:16:46,831 --> 00:16:48,224 You're supposed to be saying no. 252 00:16:48,268 --> 00:16:50,139 -I'm not gonna start the saw. 253 00:16:50,183 --> 00:16:52,054 -No. -What? 254 00:16:55,623 --> 00:16:57,886 -All right. -Thank you. 255 00:16:57,929 --> 00:16:59,931 The amount of access you get 256 00:16:59,975 --> 00:17:02,195 as the Chief Official White House Photographer 257 00:17:02,238 --> 00:17:05,024 is really totally dependent on the relationship 258 00:17:05,067 --> 00:17:07,330 that you have with the president. 259 00:17:09,898 --> 00:17:12,770 All I tried to do was push for more access 260 00:17:12,814 --> 00:17:15,773 for the behind-the-scenes moments, 261 00:17:15,817 --> 00:17:17,688 most of which were never seen 262 00:17:17,732 --> 00:17:20,604 until after he had left the presidency. 263 00:17:22,389 --> 00:17:23,999 Some of the pictures that I would make 264 00:17:24,043 --> 00:17:26,045 would be fairly intimate. 265 00:17:26,088 --> 00:17:28,656 After Mrs. Reagan had undergone 266 00:17:28,699 --> 00:17:31,702 breast cancer surgery at Bethesda Naval Hospital, 267 00:17:31,746 --> 00:17:33,922 every day, at the end of the day, 268 00:17:33,965 --> 00:17:37,012 he would take the helicopter and go visit her. 269 00:17:38,274 --> 00:17:41,712 They were exactly the same way together 270 00:17:41,756 --> 00:17:45,151 behind the scenes as they were in public. 271 00:17:45,194 --> 00:17:49,807 There was very much a true love 272 00:17:49,851 --> 00:17:54,203 and companionship between the-the two of them. 273 00:17:55,030 --> 00:17:59,208 I always felt the best pictures I made of-of Reagan 274 00:17:59,252 --> 00:18:02,820 were not from planned events. 275 00:18:02,864 --> 00:18:06,172 They were things that happened between events 276 00:18:06,215 --> 00:18:09,653 and moments that you couldn't ever predict-- 277 00:18:09,697 --> 00:18:13,353 they would just happen-- and that really humanizes 278 00:18:13,396 --> 00:18:15,616 the president of the United States. 279 00:18:18,967 --> 00:18:21,317 One of the roles of commander in chief is 280 00:18:21,361 --> 00:18:23,711 you send people into harm's way. 281 00:18:23,754 --> 00:18:28,368 But then the president usually is the one who has to go talk 282 00:18:28,411 --> 00:18:31,371 to all the families who had lost someone. 283 00:18:33,721 --> 00:18:36,941 He's clearly empathetic and compassionate, 284 00:18:36,985 --> 00:18:40,728 and you can see the emotion in their faces 285 00:18:40,771 --> 00:18:43,861 as they're looking up to see what Reagan is saying. 286 00:18:43,905 --> 00:18:46,125 That's the way a president should behave 287 00:18:46,168 --> 00:18:48,344 in times like that. 288 00:18:51,173 --> 00:18:53,306 In some respects, I think it did a disservice 289 00:18:53,349 --> 00:18:57,832 not to show him in these true, authentic, 290 00:18:57,875 --> 00:19:01,140 behind-the-scenes moments more than they did. 291 00:19:04,969 --> 00:19:07,015 Okay, folks. 292 00:19:07,058 --> 00:19:09,800 I've always wanted to stand on the Cabinet Room table. 293 00:19:09,844 --> 00:19:11,324 -Is it o... 294 00:19:11,367 --> 00:19:14,065 Is it okay with you, Mr. President? 295 00:19:19,723 --> 00:19:22,248 -What'd he put up? - "Scram." 296 00:19:22,291 --> 00:19:26,121 And, Mr. President, just half a step this way. 297 00:19:26,165 --> 00:19:28,297 He's to the left, and I'm to the right. 298 00:19:31,474 --> 00:19:33,433 Another half step. 299 00:19:33,476 --> 00:19:34,912 Big smiles. 300 00:19:36,044 --> 00:19:37,219 Here we go. 301 00:19:37,263 --> 00:19:38,960 Big smile. 302 00:19:44,226 --> 00:19:45,793 I wanted this time to talk with you 303 00:19:45,836 --> 00:19:47,229 about an extremely sensitive 304 00:19:47,273 --> 00:19:49,927 and profoundly important matter of foreign policy. 305 00:19:51,277 --> 00:19:54,236 Certainly, during the Iran-Contra affair, 306 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,804 there were a lot of pictures that I made where he was 307 00:19:56,847 --> 00:19:59,894 agonizing over what he did or what he didn't do. 308 00:20:01,112 --> 00:20:03,114 It was a big scandal. 309 00:20:04,551 --> 00:20:06,988 I made that picture where the Tower Commission, 310 00:20:07,031 --> 00:20:10,165 after this many-month investigation, 311 00:20:10,209 --> 00:20:12,211 had concluded that, in fact, 312 00:20:12,254 --> 00:20:15,997 Reagan had sold arms for hostages. 313 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,129 And you see that look on Reagan's face, 314 00:20:18,173 --> 00:20:21,263 who was still somewhat in denial. 315 00:20:21,307 --> 00:20:25,354 But to me, it really defines that whole scandal 316 00:20:25,398 --> 00:20:28,357 and how impactful it was on his presidency. 317 00:20:31,099 --> 00:20:35,364 I did not necessarily agree with some of the things 318 00:20:35,408 --> 00:20:38,149 that President Reagan was doing. 319 00:20:38,193 --> 00:20:39,890 For example, 320 00:20:39,934 --> 00:20:42,197 how long it took him to come to grips with AIDS. 321 00:20:42,241 --> 00:20:46,375 I think that, in retrospect, is more than disappointing. 322 00:20:46,419 --> 00:20:50,553 But this photo I made of him holding a baby with HIV 323 00:20:50,597 --> 00:20:54,818 did help destigmatize the disease. 324 00:20:54,862 --> 00:20:57,865 I was naive and not as politically aware 325 00:20:57,908 --> 00:20:59,475 as I should have been at the time. 326 00:20:59,519 --> 00:21:03,958 But I did feel that he was a decent human being. 327 00:21:04,001 --> 00:21:07,918 He respected other people from all walks of life. 328 00:21:07,962 --> 00:21:11,095 When, uh, Reagan had, uh, passed away 329 00:21:11,139 --> 00:21:14,969 and his body was being flown to the West Coast, 330 00:21:15,012 --> 00:21:17,232 uh, Nancy Reagan requested 331 00:21:17,276 --> 00:21:19,408 that Peter be on the plane with them. 332 00:21:19,452 --> 00:21:21,105 And, of course, he had been 333 00:21:21,149 --> 00:21:23,282 out of the White House for so many years. 334 00:21:23,325 --> 00:21:25,109 And Peter did that. 335 00:22:18,989 --> 00:22:21,122 When I left the White House under Reagan, 336 00:22:21,165 --> 00:22:23,907 it wasn't like I was that well-known. 337 00:22:23,951 --> 00:22:27,911 So, for nine years, I was a freelance photographer. 338 00:22:27,955 --> 00:22:29,522 After that, I went to work 339 00:22:29,565 --> 00:22:33,264 for the Chicago Tribune, based in D.C. 340 00:22:35,049 --> 00:22:37,399 If somebody had told me that I would end up working 341 00:22:37,443 --> 00:22:40,576 for the most iconic Republican president of our generation 342 00:22:40,620 --> 00:22:43,144 and then the most iconic Democrat president 343 00:22:43,187 --> 00:22:45,407 of our generation, 344 00:22:45,451 --> 00:22:47,496 I would've said they were crazy. 345 00:22:51,326 --> 00:22:53,110 What are those words? 346 00:22:53,154 --> 00:22:54,938 -Yes, we can! -Yes, we can! 347 00:22:54,982 --> 00:22:57,027 Thank you, Illinois! I love you! 348 00:22:57,071 --> 00:22:58,986 Thank you! 349 00:22:59,029 --> 00:23:00,248 Thank you, Illinois. 350 00:23:00,291 --> 00:23:02,337 -In 2004... -Thank you, guys. 351 00:23:02,381 --> 00:23:05,427 ...Barack Obama was elected to the Senate. 352 00:23:05,471 --> 00:23:09,866 I didn't see his 2004 speech at the convention 353 00:23:09,910 --> 00:23:12,391 because I was traveling with Kerry. 354 00:23:12,434 --> 00:23:15,568 The hope of a skinny kid with a funny name 355 00:23:15,611 --> 00:23:19,136 who believes that America has a place for him, too. 356 00:23:19,180 --> 00:23:21,225 I remember the editors in Chicago said to me, 357 00:23:21,269 --> 00:23:22,966 "Make sure you get a picture of Obama." 358 00:23:23,010 --> 00:23:24,141 And I was like... I didn't even know 359 00:23:24,185 --> 00:23:26,056 what the guy looked like, you know? 360 00:23:26,100 --> 00:23:27,449 You're on the front page of every paper this week. 361 00:23:27,493 --> 00:23:30,017 -You're all over television. -Right. 362 00:23:30,060 --> 00:23:32,193 Everyone's calling you the future, the savior 363 00:23:32,236 --> 00:23:34,195 -of the Democratic Party. -Well... 364 00:23:34,238 --> 00:23:35,544 -So, are you? -You know, I rank 365 00:23:35,588 --> 00:23:37,938 99th out of 100 in seniority, 366 00:23:37,981 --> 00:23:40,157 uh, so I-I'm gonna be sharpening pencils 367 00:23:40,201 --> 00:23:42,290 and-and scrubbing the floors, I think, 368 00:23:42,333 --> 00:23:43,900 -for the first couple of years. -I doubt that. 369 00:23:43,944 --> 00:23:45,467 Jeff Zeleny, 370 00:23:45,511 --> 00:23:48,427 who was a correspondent for the Tribune, 371 00:23:48,470 --> 00:23:50,254 he came up to me one day, and he said, 372 00:23:50,298 --> 00:23:53,388 "Hey, I'm thinking of pitching a story to the editors, 373 00:23:53,432 --> 00:23:57,436 uh, following Obama's first year in the Senate." 374 00:24:01,527 --> 00:24:03,224 I love this picture because, 375 00:24:03,267 --> 00:24:05,879 you know, he's got half a sandwich in his mouth, 376 00:24:05,922 --> 00:24:08,925 and then Sasha's eyeing the other half. 377 00:24:08,969 --> 00:24:11,362 This was the day I met him. 378 00:24:11,406 --> 00:24:14,061 The presence of my camera didn't bother him at all, 379 00:24:14,104 --> 00:24:16,150 you know, which is not always the case, 380 00:24:16,193 --> 00:24:19,327 especially with politicians. 381 00:24:19,370 --> 00:24:21,677 DIRECTOR/PRODUCER: Did that say anything about him to you? 382 00:24:21,721 --> 00:24:25,464 Um, you know, I found a good subject. 383 00:24:31,252 --> 00:24:35,604 This was the first day that he was in Washington 384 00:24:35,648 --> 00:24:38,433 as the newly elected senator. 385 00:24:38,477 --> 00:24:41,305 And Malia was six. 386 00:24:41,349 --> 00:24:44,395 Senator Obama spent the day with his family 387 00:24:44,439 --> 00:24:47,529 and showing them around and helping them understand 388 00:24:47,573 --> 00:24:49,488 what it was like. 389 00:24:49,531 --> 00:24:52,099 And Sasha was three. 390 00:24:52,142 --> 00:24:53,666 I mean, I think he thought 391 00:24:53,709 --> 00:24:56,582 I was a competent photographer. 392 00:24:56,625 --> 00:24:59,062 I continued to further that trust 393 00:24:59,106 --> 00:25:01,064 as the year went by. 394 00:25:03,023 --> 00:25:04,677 Why, in the age of, uh, YouTube 395 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,506 and so much Internet video, do photographs 396 00:25:07,549 --> 00:25:09,986 still have a very powerful impact 397 00:25:10,030 --> 00:25:12,249 in terms of covering politics? 398 00:25:12,293 --> 00:25:15,165 You know, I-I-I like the still photograph. 399 00:25:15,209 --> 00:25:17,124 It stops time. 400 00:25:17,167 --> 00:25:19,169 You can remember a still photograph. 401 00:25:19,213 --> 00:25:23,260 A-A lot of photojournalists now are evolving into video, 402 00:25:23,304 --> 00:25:25,175 but I still think the still photograph, 403 00:25:25,219 --> 00:25:27,264 for me, says a lot more. 404 00:25:28,309 --> 00:25:29,963 I wasn't with him every day, 405 00:25:30,006 --> 00:25:32,356 but I got to know him pretty well professionally. 406 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,185 It-it was very clear that he was different 407 00:25:35,229 --> 00:25:37,144 from most politicians. 408 00:25:37,187 --> 00:25:39,102 I hadn't really seen somebody, 409 00:25:39,146 --> 00:25:44,064 especially a freshman senator, with this kind of presence. 410 00:25:44,107 --> 00:25:46,457 He had us call him Barack. 411 00:25:46,501 --> 00:25:48,459 He was casual. 412 00:25:48,503 --> 00:25:50,549 He would e-mail you in the middle of the night. 413 00:25:51,375 --> 00:25:53,508 Generationally, he had more in common 414 00:25:53,552 --> 00:25:55,466 with the people who worked for him in their 20s 415 00:25:55,510 --> 00:26:00,080 than he did with probably the other senators in Washington. 416 00:26:00,123 --> 00:26:01,603 This would have been 2005. 417 00:26:01,647 --> 00:26:05,476 I went to Russia and Ukraine and Azerbaijan with him. 418 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,478 We're in the middle of Red Square, 419 00:26:07,522 --> 00:26:10,220 and not a single person recognizes him. 420 00:26:11,352 --> 00:26:14,355 He was just a... a regular guy. 421 00:26:17,271 --> 00:26:22,145 And then I went to Africa with him in 2006. 422 00:26:22,189 --> 00:26:25,453 In Robben Island, we went to Mandela's cell. 423 00:26:25,496 --> 00:26:28,195 -Now, the advantage of this cell... -He had some sun. 424 00:26:28,238 --> 00:26:29,631 -Not only that. -Yeah. 425 00:26:29,675 --> 00:26:31,372 You got the view of the outside. 426 00:26:31,415 --> 00:26:33,679 On a clear day, you could see Cape Town. 427 00:26:38,684 --> 00:26:40,381 When we went to Kenya, 428 00:26:40,424 --> 00:26:43,340 he had this meeting with some NGOs. 429 00:26:43,384 --> 00:26:46,387 And word got out that he was in there. 430 00:26:46,430 --> 00:26:50,434 And when he emerged from this meeting, 431 00:26:50,478 --> 00:26:53,350 there were, like, thousands of people 432 00:26:53,394 --> 00:26:56,049 waiting to hear him say a few words. 433 00:26:58,660 --> 00:27:02,316 When we went to Nairobi and he gave a big speech, 434 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,710 I got this picture of this guy writing down, 435 00:27:04,753 --> 00:27:08,496 like, the bullet points of what he was talking about. 436 00:27:15,459 --> 00:27:17,636 -Hey! 437 00:27:17,679 --> 00:27:19,681 Hey. It's good to see all of you. 438 00:27:19,725 --> 00:27:22,510 The reception at his grandmother's village 439 00:27:22,553 --> 00:27:25,078 was, like, chaotic. 440 00:27:29,125 --> 00:27:30,561 Anytime, I think, 441 00:27:30,605 --> 00:27:32,259 a child comes back to his parent's grave, 442 00:27:32,302 --> 00:27:34,653 it makes you reflect on, uh, your own life 443 00:27:34,696 --> 00:27:36,742 and-and mortality, and... 444 00:27:36,785 --> 00:27:41,224 uh, it makes you think about the next generation. 445 00:27:41,268 --> 00:27:45,881 My wife and I are gonna get tested for HIV/AIDS. 446 00:27:45,925 --> 00:27:48,231 So, I just want everybody to remember 447 00:27:48,275 --> 00:27:51,670 that if a U.S. senator can get tested 448 00:27:51,713 --> 00:27:53,584 and his wife can get tested, 449 00:27:53,628 --> 00:27:55,586 then everybody in this crowd can get tested. 450 00:27:56,849 --> 00:27:58,720 Because you need to know your status. 451 00:27:58,764 --> 00:28:02,681 Seeing the overwhelming response that he got in Africa, 452 00:28:02,724 --> 00:28:04,726 I remember coming back from that trip 453 00:28:04,770 --> 00:28:08,512 saying that, y-you know, I'll bet he runs for president. 454 00:28:11,777 --> 00:28:13,343 I mean, just the way 455 00:28:13,387 --> 00:28:15,258 people were hanging on to his every word, 456 00:28:15,302 --> 00:28:18,435 you could just see in people's faces 457 00:28:18,479 --> 00:28:21,134 that this guy was something special to them. 458 00:28:22,875 --> 00:28:25,138 Obviously, he was very intelligent. 459 00:28:25,181 --> 00:28:27,270 But I think he also had the right temperament 460 00:28:27,314 --> 00:28:29,751 to become president. 461 00:28:29,795 --> 00:28:33,755 To me, this picture really tells a story 462 00:28:33,799 --> 00:28:38,760 about a young U.S. senator about to walk out, 463 00:28:38,804 --> 00:28:41,458 announce that he's running for president, 464 00:28:41,502 --> 00:28:45,636 knowing that his life will never be the same. 465 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,769 And I think you can see that in his face. 466 00:28:47,813 --> 00:28:50,772 You can see the anxiety in Michelle as she's trying 467 00:28:50,816 --> 00:28:54,210 to brush off some lint from the back of his jacket. 468 00:28:54,254 --> 00:28:56,778 I knew the gravity of the moment, 469 00:28:56,822 --> 00:28:58,649 and I knew he had a shot. 470 00:28:58,693 --> 00:29:03,654 I knew that once people got to see him and hear from him 471 00:29:03,698 --> 00:29:05,656 that he had a shot. 472 00:29:05,700 --> 00:29:09,878 He had the kind of qualities within him 473 00:29:09,922 --> 00:29:13,447 where people... people would relate to him. 474 00:29:13,490 --> 00:29:16,624 -I stand before you today to announce... - 475 00:29:16,667 --> 00:29:22,717 my candidacy for president of the United States of America. 476 00:29:24,719 --> 00:29:29,724 People forget that Hillary was so far ahead, 477 00:29:29,768 --> 00:29:32,901 had so many endorsements, 478 00:29:32,945 --> 00:29:35,817 that people thought he was a total long shot. 479 00:29:35,861 --> 00:29:38,907 Does Obama face a big uphill battle 480 00:29:38,951 --> 00:29:40,996 despite all the media attention he's getting? 481 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:42,911 Uh, he will have to deal with the issue 482 00:29:42,955 --> 00:29:44,826 of only two years in the U.S. Senate. 483 00:29:44,870 --> 00:29:46,480 The media was ready to 484 00:29:46,523 --> 00:29:48,699 kind of write us off or put us in the barrel. 485 00:29:48,743 --> 00:29:51,485 It was like, no, there is this broader force out there 486 00:29:51,528 --> 00:29:53,617 that's not gonna let that happen. 487 00:29:55,968 --> 00:29:59,536 American historywon't be the same again. 488 00:29:59,580 --> 00:30:02,539 Americans elected a young man with a young family, 489 00:30:02,583 --> 00:30:04,890 an African American-- the first ever. 490 00:30:08,589 --> 00:30:11,374 It's been a long time coming, 491 00:30:11,418 --> 00:30:14,856 but tonight, because of what we did on this day, 492 00:30:14,900 --> 00:30:19,382 in this election, at this defining moment, 493 00:30:19,426 --> 00:30:21,950 -change has come to America. 494 00:30:26,302 --> 00:30:29,871 Gibbs called me on January 5 495 00:30:29,915 --> 00:30:31,481 and offered me the job. 496 00:30:31,525 --> 00:30:33,875 And I just said to Gibbs, I said, "Look," 497 00:30:33,919 --> 00:30:35,703 I said, "Here's the thing is, if I do this, 498 00:30:35,746 --> 00:30:38,010 I have to have access to everything." 499 00:30:38,053 --> 00:30:40,534 And he just said to me, "The president-elect gets it. 500 00:30:40,577 --> 00:30:42,275 There's no worries there." 501 00:30:42,318 --> 00:30:44,538 And I said, "Okay, I'll-I'll be there tomorrow." 502 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:49,064 Two days later, I met up with Obama. 503 00:30:49,108 --> 00:30:51,893 He walked in the room, and he said, uh, 504 00:30:51,937 --> 00:30:54,591 "We're gonna have some fun." 505 00:31:05,472 --> 00:31:08,301 I think there was an enormous amount of respect overseas 506 00:31:08,344 --> 00:31:10,085 when he was elected. 507 00:31:10,129 --> 00:31:12,348 I think people were just excited 508 00:31:12,392 --> 00:31:15,308 that our country had finally put prejudice aside 509 00:31:15,351 --> 00:31:18,659 and elected an African American president. 510 00:31:18,702 --> 00:31:22,054 And really a different kind of politician 511 00:31:22,097 --> 00:31:23,751 that resonated around the world. 512 00:31:30,497 --> 00:31:33,674 Pete was with the president all the time. 513 00:31:33,717 --> 00:31:35,676 I mean, he'd start his day around 9:00. 514 00:31:35,719 --> 00:31:38,374 I'd get his schedule. 515 00:31:38,418 --> 00:31:40,028 But I came to learn that the schedule 516 00:31:40,072 --> 00:31:42,857 was really just the starting point. 517 00:31:45,773 --> 00:31:47,688 All right, let's go. 518 00:31:47,731 --> 00:31:51,474 I covered all the behind-the-scenes meetings, 519 00:31:51,518 --> 00:31:53,781 all the Situation Room meetings. 520 00:31:53,824 --> 00:31:56,958 I mean, I-I can't take ownershipof this analogy, 521 00:31:57,002 --> 00:32:00,353 but imagine trying to take a sip of water 522 00:32:00,396 --> 00:32:03,530 from a firehose that never shuts off. 523 00:32:13,148 --> 00:32:16,151 It was nonstop every day, 24-7, 524 00:32:16,195 --> 00:32:19,111 always on call, always ready. 525 00:32:19,154 --> 00:32:21,983 That was the challenge for me, for my job for eight years. 526 00:32:22,027 --> 00:32:24,943 Pete had walking pneumonia one time, 527 00:32:24,986 --> 00:32:27,032 and he still came to work. 528 00:32:27,075 --> 00:32:28,642 I mean, if you really want to document 529 00:32:28,685 --> 00:32:29,904 the presidency for history, 530 00:32:29,948 --> 00:32:32,733 you got to be there all the time, 531 00:32:32,776 --> 00:32:34,517 because you can't predict when images are gonna happen. 532 00:32:34,561 --> 00:32:37,172 Pete really wanted to be 533 00:32:37,216 --> 00:32:39,131 the guy who disappears. 534 00:32:39,174 --> 00:32:42,177 And that's the gift when you're a White House photographer 535 00:32:42,221 --> 00:32:44,963 is that the president doesn't even know you're in the room. 536 00:32:46,747 --> 00:32:48,705 Occasionally, the cabinet would be gathered 537 00:32:48,749 --> 00:32:51,447 to present some really tough decisions to the president. 538 00:32:51,491 --> 00:32:53,623 You know, there'd be chatter, chatter, 539 00:32:53,667 --> 00:32:56,496 people commiserating, and the first sign 540 00:32:56,539 --> 00:33:01,718 that the president was imminent was when Pete walked in. 541 00:33:01,762 --> 00:33:03,546 Everything would freeze. 542 00:33:03,590 --> 00:33:05,461 So, I don't know what it felt like for him 543 00:33:05,505 --> 00:33:07,724 for eight years to have that chilling effect on... 544 00:33:07,768 --> 00:33:09,204 on every room. 545 00:33:12,468 --> 00:33:17,560 Why should historians pay attention to what you do? 546 00:33:17,604 --> 00:33:20,563 Well, I think, for me, the-the job 547 00:33:20,607 --> 00:33:22,652 of the Chief Official White House Photographer 548 00:33:22,696 --> 00:33:24,480 is important for history. 549 00:33:24,524 --> 00:33:28,093 And-and that's the one thing that I am-am concerned about 550 00:33:28,136 --> 00:33:30,573 with, you know, what's-what's happening 551 00:33:30,617 --> 00:33:32,053 with the current administration, 552 00:33:32,097 --> 00:33:35,665 that the access is not the same as... 553 00:33:35,709 --> 00:33:39,626 as, uh... as-as I had for-for President Obama. 554 00:33:39,669 --> 00:33:43,108 And I think history will suffer as a result. 555 00:33:45,849 --> 00:33:48,591 President Obama puts his administration 556 00:33:48,635 --> 00:33:50,767 front and center on yet another major aspect 557 00:33:50,811 --> 00:33:53,161 of the country's troubled economic front: 558 00:33:53,205 --> 00:33:55,642 restructuring the U.S. auto industry. 559 00:33:57,731 --> 00:34:00,081 Early in 2009, we were in the midst 560 00:34:00,125 --> 00:34:02,475 of this big financial crisis. 561 00:34:02,518 --> 00:34:05,565 I think this picture helped show who's in the room, 562 00:34:05,608 --> 00:34:07,784 the mood, the emotion of the moment, 563 00:34:07,828 --> 00:34:09,873 which was-- he was about to call 564 00:34:09,917 --> 00:34:13,747 the CEOs of two automobile companies 565 00:34:13,790 --> 00:34:15,792 to tell them the federal government 566 00:34:15,836 --> 00:34:17,838 was gonna take over the company. 567 00:34:17,881 --> 00:34:20,971 As you recall, it was very controversial at the time. 568 00:34:21,798 --> 00:34:25,628 And I was thinking, "Who is this man?" 569 00:34:25,672 --> 00:34:27,978 How does he deal with crisis? 570 00:34:28,022 --> 00:34:31,199 And I think some words that were crossing my mind were 571 00:34:31,243 --> 00:34:36,030 "leadership," "character" and "empathy." 572 00:34:38,076 --> 00:34:41,209 The more I've studied leaders in crisis times, 573 00:34:41,253 --> 00:34:44,125 whether it's Lincoln or FDR or Teddy Roosevelt 574 00:34:44,169 --> 00:34:46,736 or LBJ during the civil rights struggle, 575 00:34:46,780 --> 00:34:48,869 they had almost, like, a family resemblance 576 00:34:48,912 --> 00:34:52,655 of leadership traits, the first one being humility, 577 00:34:52,699 --> 00:34:55,136 the ability to be able to acknowledge error 578 00:34:55,180 --> 00:34:57,573 and learn from your mistakes. 579 00:34:57,617 --> 00:35:00,098 I would go from there, maybe, to empathy 580 00:35:00,141 --> 00:35:02,665 as an absolutely critical human quality-- 581 00:35:02,709 --> 00:35:05,277 the ability to understand other people's points of view 582 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,017 and to feel a sense of connection 583 00:35:07,061 --> 00:35:08,628 to those other people. 584 00:35:08,671 --> 00:35:10,586 All the leaders that I've studied 585 00:35:10,630 --> 00:35:14,024 were able to communicate in a way to the people 586 00:35:14,068 --> 00:35:17,289 so that they felt a sense of trust in what they were saying. 587 00:35:17,332 --> 00:35:20,074 They were inspired to act because of them. 588 00:35:20,118 --> 00:35:22,250 And then beyond communication 589 00:35:22,294 --> 00:35:24,731 is the ability to control emotions 590 00:35:24,774 --> 00:35:27,734 and to remain cool during difficult times. 591 00:35:27,777 --> 00:35:29,997 And then at the very end, in some ways, 592 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:31,607 you have to have the self-confidence 593 00:35:31,651 --> 00:35:33,348 to create a team of people around you 594 00:35:33,392 --> 00:35:35,002 who can criticize you, 595 00:35:35,045 --> 00:35:36,786 who can question your assumptions, 596 00:35:36,830 --> 00:35:38,179 who can argue with you. 597 00:35:38,223 --> 00:35:39,876 And then to accept that it's gonna come 598 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:41,269 from the country at large 599 00:35:41,313 --> 00:35:43,315 is such an important quality in a leader. 600 00:35:49,364 --> 00:35:52,324 Looking at President Obama, he came into office 601 00:35:52,367 --> 00:35:55,718 with a desire to wind down America's wars overseas 602 00:35:55,762 --> 00:35:57,720 and step up the focus at home. 603 00:35:57,764 --> 00:36:00,201 But events had a way of intervening, 604 00:36:00,245 --> 00:36:01,855 especially in the Middle East. 605 00:36:01,898 --> 00:36:03,944 I want to speak to you tonight 606 00:36:03,987 --> 00:36:06,164 about our effort in Afghanistan. 607 00:36:07,252 --> 00:36:10,080 We did not ask for this fight. 608 00:36:10,124 --> 00:36:14,172 But while we've achieved hard-earned milestones in Iraq, 609 00:36:14,215 --> 00:36:17,827 the situation in Afghanistan has deteriorated. 610 00:36:17,871 --> 00:36:20,221 And as commander in chief, I have determined 611 00:36:20,265 --> 00:36:23,224 that it is in our vital national interest 612 00:36:23,268 --> 00:36:27,097 to send an additional 30,000 U.S. troops to Afghanistan. 613 00:36:27,141 --> 00:36:29,926 President Obama again and again would come back to, 614 00:36:29,970 --> 00:36:33,278 "Okay, if we do what you're proposing, 615 00:36:33,321 --> 00:36:35,932 how is it likely to play out?" 616 00:36:35,976 --> 00:36:39,980 He welcomed dissent and debate and discussion. 617 00:36:40,023 --> 00:36:44,680 His belief was that he would make the best decisions 618 00:36:44,724 --> 00:36:47,683 if he had been exposed to 619 00:36:47,727 --> 00:36:50,860 the greatest array of counterarguments, 620 00:36:50,904 --> 00:36:52,688 alternative viewpoints. 621 00:36:52,732 --> 00:36:55,909 Let's say a really difficult backdrop like Syria. 622 00:36:55,952 --> 00:36:58,259 We had tensions over that. 623 00:36:58,303 --> 00:37:01,262 We have nothing but lousy options 624 00:37:01,306 --> 00:37:03,656 confronting the president. 625 00:37:03,699 --> 00:37:07,181 But the person who has to live with the consequences 626 00:37:07,225 --> 00:37:10,010 and to know that they own the outcome, 627 00:37:10,053 --> 00:37:13,100 that's the president and the president alone. 628 00:37:15,058 --> 00:37:17,322 President Obama said, actually, 629 00:37:17,365 --> 00:37:20,281 that he viewed the presidency as a relay race. 630 00:37:20,325 --> 00:37:23,284 You're given certain problems when you come in. 631 00:37:23,328 --> 00:37:25,155 You work on those problems. 632 00:37:25,199 --> 00:37:27,375 Some of those things will not be solved during your time. 633 00:37:27,419 --> 00:37:30,117 Maybe some steps have been taken to get that solved. 634 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,250 Maybe we've gone backwards or forwards. 635 00:37:32,293 --> 00:37:33,729 Wars are gonna be there 636 00:37:33,773 --> 00:37:35,035 that maybe shouldn't have been fought 637 00:37:35,078 --> 00:37:37,037 or-or you wish hadn't been fought. 638 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,300 Wars are gonna be there that are left unfinished. 639 00:37:39,344 --> 00:37:42,172 But it's really that continuing march. 640 00:37:44,262 --> 00:37:46,307 For me, 641 00:37:46,351 --> 00:37:48,918 it is constantly important to remind myself 642 00:37:48,962 --> 00:37:52,357 why I got into this business in the first place. 643 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,184 Especially when it's hard. 644 00:37:54,228 --> 00:37:57,971 You look at an issue right now like health care. 645 00:37:58,014 --> 00:38:01,322 So many of us campaigned on the idea 646 00:38:01,366 --> 00:38:04,934 that we were gonna change this health care system. 647 00:38:04,978 --> 00:38:09,069 Well, here we are with a chance to change it. 648 00:38:10,418 --> 00:38:12,202 This is an early health care speech 649 00:38:12,246 --> 00:38:15,118 he was working on with Jon Favreau. 650 00:38:15,162 --> 00:38:17,251 -Every page looked like this. 651 00:38:17,295 --> 00:38:20,123 So, I think it really shows you how involved he was 652 00:38:20,167 --> 00:38:23,910 in the words that were coming out of his mouth. 653 00:38:23,953 --> 00:38:25,868 Don't you wish we had that now? 654 00:38:25,912 --> 00:38:27,870 -Um... 655 00:38:27,914 --> 00:38:29,829 but I think this picture also tells you something 656 00:38:29,872 --> 00:38:32,092 about how he works with other people. 657 00:38:32,135 --> 00:38:34,964 Because instead of just handing Jon 658 00:38:35,008 --> 00:38:36,749 the marked-up draft the next morning 659 00:38:36,792 --> 00:38:39,186 when he came to the Oval Office,he called Jon in, 660 00:38:39,229 --> 00:38:41,710 and they sat on the sofa for an hour and a half 661 00:38:41,754 --> 00:38:45,845 and went over every change that he had made. 662 00:38:45,888 --> 00:38:48,761 I know how bitter and contentious the issue 663 00:38:48,804 --> 00:38:51,938 of health insurance reform has become. 664 00:38:53,940 --> 00:38:56,812 This bill is the greatest threat to freedom 665 00:38:56,856 --> 00:39:00,120 that I have seen in the 19 yearsI've been here in Washington. 666 00:39:00,163 --> 00:39:02,731 We've gotten caught up in the political game 667 00:39:02,775 --> 00:39:04,820 in a way that's just not healthy. 668 00:39:06,822 --> 00:39:11,479 This is Nancy-Ann DeParle,who was as responsible as anyone 669 00:39:11,523 --> 00:39:13,829 for the Affordable Care Act. 670 00:39:13,873 --> 00:39:17,093 And Nancy-Ann had two young boys, 671 00:39:17,137 --> 00:39:19,835 and they never saw their mom for, like, two years. 672 00:39:19,879 --> 00:39:22,011 Like, she would leave the house early in the morning, 673 00:39:22,055 --> 00:39:24,405 and the boys hadn't even woken up yet. 674 00:39:24,449 --> 00:39:27,887 And by the time she got home, they were often already asleep. 675 00:39:27,930 --> 00:39:29,454 And that's the kind of sacrifice 676 00:39:29,497 --> 00:39:32,195 that people at the White House made. 677 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,023 President Obama was aware of this. 678 00:39:34,067 --> 00:39:36,461 It-it was... wasn't anything that was ever said, 679 00:39:36,504 --> 00:39:40,378 but I started noticing it-- where, whenever he could, 680 00:39:40,421 --> 00:39:43,772 he would make a point to make sure the boys were invited 681 00:39:43,816 --> 00:39:46,384 when the NBA basketball players 682 00:39:46,427 --> 00:39:49,299 came to the White House or events like that. 683 00:39:49,343 --> 00:39:51,040 This is Nicky. 684 00:39:51,084 --> 00:39:53,391 He invited him into the Oval Office, 685 00:39:53,434 --> 00:39:55,784 uh, to share a PowerBar with him. 686 00:39:59,309 --> 00:40:01,050 Um... 687 00:40:05,577 --> 00:40:08,449 Nicky... 688 00:40:08,493 --> 00:40:11,844 came to one of my book signings. 689 00:40:11,887 --> 00:40:15,804 He's now a sophomore at Duke. 690 00:40:15,848 --> 00:40:18,067 And, uh, told me 691 00:40:18,111 --> 00:40:20,113 how much this picture meant to him. 692 00:40:21,854 --> 00:40:23,551 And he realizes now 693 00:40:23,595 --> 00:40:25,945 the good work that his mom was doing. 694 00:40:28,426 --> 00:40:30,384 There was still some lobbying to be done. 695 00:40:30,428 --> 00:40:32,778 Lots of phone calls is in the... 696 00:40:32,821 --> 00:40:34,257 in-in the limo with Phil Schiliro, 697 00:40:34,301 --> 00:40:36,042 his legislative director. 698 00:40:36,085 --> 00:40:37,957 And I think this was the phone call 699 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,047 where he realized that they probably had enough votes. 700 00:40:41,090 --> 00:40:44,267 And he took his lucky charms out of his pocket. 701 00:40:44,311 --> 00:40:47,183 I saw that he took his lucky charms out that morning; 702 00:40:47,227 --> 00:40:50,578 I was like, "Okay, this is a good sign." 703 00:40:52,101 --> 00:40:53,581 Let's get this done. 704 00:40:57,455 --> 00:41:00,022 The bill is passed. 705 00:41:29,878 --> 00:41:33,316 And he felt on this day that he got something done 706 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,405 that bettered people's lives. 707 00:41:39,366 --> 00:41:41,150 --Oh, got to switch cameras here. 708 00:41:41,194 --> 00:41:43,283 -Oh. 709 00:41:43,326 --> 00:41:46,373 -Oh, sorry about that, sir. -No problem. 710 00:41:46,416 --> 00:41:47,983 -Are we all right? -Yep. 711 00:41:48,027 --> 00:41:49,507 Just got to switch, uh... 712 00:41:49,550 --> 00:41:51,160 All right. 713 00:41:51,204 --> 00:41:53,032 He-he caught me in an embarrassing moment. 714 00:41:53,075 --> 00:41:55,077 -I saw. -Where... It's, like, that's... 715 00:41:55,121 --> 00:41:56,992 That never happens to me. 716 00:41:57,036 --> 00:41:58,341 Sorry about that, sir. 717 00:41:58,385 --> 00:41:59,995 Yeah, that was a little embarrassing. 718 00:42:00,039 --> 00:42:01,867 -Ah, man, I tell you. -Right in front of, uh, 719 00:42:01,910 --> 00:42:03,651 National Geographic, and suddenly... 720 00:42:03,695 --> 00:42:05,435 suddenly, the camera broke down. 721 00:42:05,479 --> 00:42:07,350 -Golly. -I filled the disk. 722 00:42:07,394 --> 00:42:08,917 -He's usually much better than this, I promise you. - 723 00:42:08,961 --> 00:42:10,571 Remember, Pete, remember, you got to take 724 00:42:10,615 --> 00:42:12,355 -the lens cap off before... -No, it wasn't the lens cap. 725 00:42:12,399 --> 00:42:14,183 -The lens cap is important. -No, no, no, it was the... 726 00:42:14,227 --> 00:42:16,621 I filled the disk. I mean, the speech was so exciting 727 00:42:16,664 --> 00:42:19,232 -that I filled the disk with... -It was... 728 00:42:22,322 --> 00:42:24,367 One of the cool things that my office did 729 00:42:24,411 --> 00:42:26,587 was hang jumbo prints. 730 00:42:26,631 --> 00:42:28,633 It's a tradition that had started 731 00:42:28,676 --> 00:42:30,504 with the Nixon administration. 732 00:42:30,548 --> 00:42:33,333 So, we would update them every few weeks. 733 00:42:35,335 --> 00:42:37,032 There's actually only a few dozen people 734 00:42:37,076 --> 00:42:38,556 that interact with the president of the United States 735 00:42:38,599 --> 00:42:40,558 on a regular basis. 736 00:42:42,647 --> 00:42:46,520 And yet, there's hundreds of people working for him. 737 00:42:46,564 --> 00:42:50,916 So, this was a way for them to see him in a very personal way. 738 00:42:52,178 --> 00:42:55,268 I think it sort of gave them added purpose. 739 00:42:58,663 --> 00:43:01,013 The first time that we went to the U.N., 740 00:43:01,056 --> 00:43:03,232 we had a break one afternoon, 741 00:43:03,276 --> 00:43:06,105 and he and Reggie Love played basketball for, like, an hour. 742 00:43:06,148 --> 00:43:10,109 Now, Reggie Love was 27 at the time, 743 00:43:10,152 --> 00:43:11,545 was six-six. 744 00:43:11,589 --> 00:43:13,939 He was the captain of the Duke University 745 00:43:13,982 --> 00:43:16,594 basketball team when they won a national championship. 746 00:43:16,637 --> 00:43:19,509 Barack Obama was 20 years older, 747 00:43:19,553 --> 00:43:21,599 at least four inches shorter 748 00:43:21,642 --> 00:43:24,036 and didn't start forhis high school basketball team. 749 00:43:25,646 --> 00:43:29,084 But he's, like, the most competitive guy I've ever met. 750 00:43:29,128 --> 00:43:31,217 At one point, President Obama goes up, 751 00:43:31,260 --> 00:43:33,088 blocks Reggie's shot. 752 00:43:33,132 --> 00:43:35,047 They finished the game, 753 00:43:35,090 --> 00:43:37,745 and President Obama makes a beeline towards me. 754 00:43:37,789 --> 00:43:41,619 Comes up to me, and he goes, "Did you get that block?" 755 00:43:46,624 --> 00:43:48,321 And I'm, like, scrolling through, 756 00:43:48,364 --> 00:43:51,454 and I come to this picture, and he goes... he goes, 757 00:43:51,498 --> 00:43:53,543 "That's great. Make that a jumbo." 758 00:43:56,198 --> 00:43:57,765 He made Reggie sign it, 759 00:43:57,809 --> 00:44:00,681 "Dear Mr. President, nice block.Reggie Love." 760 00:44:04,554 --> 00:44:08,384 Somebody came to me and said, "We need to get these online." 761 00:44:08,428 --> 00:44:11,649 Pete said, "The White House wants us 762 00:44:11,692 --> 00:44:14,347 to put pictures out on Flickr," 763 00:44:14,390 --> 00:44:16,654 which was a photo streaming platform. 764 00:44:16,697 --> 00:44:19,613 My job was to make an edit of... from 10,000 765 00:44:19,657 --> 00:44:23,051 down to what would be about 50 pictures a week. 766 00:44:23,095 --> 00:44:24,574 That was unprecedented. 767 00:44:24,618 --> 00:44:27,142 No previous administration had ever 768 00:44:27,186 --> 00:44:29,144 put out as many pictures. 769 00:44:29,188 --> 00:44:31,103 And I thought it was a great way for the public 770 00:44:31,146 --> 00:44:33,671 to see what was happening behind the scenes. 771 00:44:45,465 --> 00:44:49,730 When you get to be my age and you look back at, uh, 772 00:44:49,774 --> 00:44:52,298 things that happened early in your life, 773 00:44:52,341 --> 00:44:55,736 you start sort of connecting the dots a little bit. 774 00:44:55,780 --> 00:44:59,522 I was trying to remember with Jane 775 00:44:59,566 --> 00:45:02,743 when we went to Washington. 776 00:45:02,787 --> 00:45:05,746 I think it was in 1965. 777 00:45:05,790 --> 00:45:08,227 But we went and visited the White House, 778 00:45:08,270 --> 00:45:11,709 and we also got this book 779 00:45:11,752 --> 00:45:14,450 -called The White House. 780 00:45:14,494 --> 00:45:18,541 And I used to look at this book all the time. 781 00:45:18,585 --> 00:45:20,674 This book was published shortly before 782 00:45:20,718 --> 00:45:23,068 Kennedy was assassinated. 783 00:45:23,111 --> 00:45:25,592 And Jackie Kennedy wrote the introduction. 784 00:45:25,635 --> 00:45:27,246 She said that the book originally 785 00:45:27,289 --> 00:45:30,423 was intended just for children. 786 00:45:32,251 --> 00:45:33,774 I'm gonna get emotional 787 00:45:33,818 --> 00:45:35,341 just-just reading this. 788 00:45:35,384 --> 00:45:37,212 "It-it seems such a shame that they"-- 789 00:45:37,256 --> 00:45:39,388 meaning the kids that visited the White House-- 790 00:45:39,432 --> 00:45:41,564 "should have nothing to take away with them. 791 00:45:41,608 --> 00:45:44,567 "It was hoped that they would read more about the presidents 792 00:45:44,611 --> 00:45:47,135 who interested them the most." 793 00:45:47,179 --> 00:45:49,137 You know, I was one of them. 794 00:45:49,181 --> 00:45:52,227 This book, for each administration, 795 00:45:52,271 --> 00:45:54,577 was-was updated subsequently. 796 00:45:54,621 --> 00:45:59,757 The last version of this, I have the cover photo 797 00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:01,846 and have several photos 798 00:46:01,889 --> 00:46:04,762 of-of President Obama inside the book. 799 00:46:04,805 --> 00:46:07,329 -So, you talk about full circle.- 800 00:46:14,423 --> 00:46:17,687 This was when my mom met, 801 00:46:17,731 --> 00:46:19,733 uh, President Obama for the first time. 802 00:46:19,777 --> 00:46:22,823 And he wrote, "To Lillian. It was a joy to meet you. 803 00:46:22,867 --> 00:46:26,261 Thanks for doing such a great job with Pete." 804 00:46:26,305 --> 00:46:28,437 So, this is my grandmother and grandfather. 805 00:46:28,481 --> 00:46:30,657 They were both born in the Azores. 806 00:46:30,700 --> 00:46:34,617 They emigrated within a year or two of each other. 807 00:46:34,661 --> 00:46:36,837 My parents both worked. 808 00:46:36,881 --> 00:46:39,448 My mom was a nurse. 809 00:46:39,492 --> 00:46:42,712 My dad was a boat mechanic. 810 00:46:43,713 --> 00:46:49,502 I had no interest in anything other than sports. 811 00:46:49,545 --> 00:46:51,460 I didn't get interested in photography 812 00:46:51,504 --> 00:46:53,419 until I was in college. 813 00:46:53,462 --> 00:46:55,464 If there was such a category, I would have been 814 00:46:55,508 --> 00:46:57,771 -the most unlikely to succeed. 815 00:46:57,815 --> 00:47:00,643 I think, when he was at BU, 816 00:47:00,687 --> 00:47:02,863 he took a course in photography. 817 00:47:02,907 --> 00:47:04,473 And he came home, and he said, 818 00:47:04,517 --> 00:47:06,649 "Mom, I want to be a photographer." 819 00:47:06,693 --> 00:47:09,565 I said, "Oh, my God, four years at BU, 820 00:47:09,609 --> 00:47:11,698 and you're gonna take pictures?" 821 00:47:13,613 --> 00:47:15,702 That's what I thought. Oh, my God. 822 00:47:16,746 --> 00:47:17,922 To me, it was magic. 823 00:47:17,965 --> 00:47:19,837 Shooting a roll of film, 824 00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,578 rolling that film up onto the reel, 825 00:47:22,622 --> 00:47:26,844 and as you're shaking the tray, the image starts to appear. 826 00:47:26,887 --> 00:47:30,238 You're in control from start to finish. 827 00:47:30,282 --> 00:47:33,589 And I was like, "This is what I want to do." 828 00:47:33,633 --> 00:47:35,765 He really wanted to be a photographer, you know, 829 00:47:35,809 --> 00:47:38,246 and that's a really competitive field. 830 00:47:38,290 --> 00:47:40,770 And the day that he left to go to Kansas 831 00:47:40,814 --> 00:47:42,511 to get his master's degree, 832 00:47:42,555 --> 00:47:43,861 when he was driving out of the driveway, 833 00:47:43,904 --> 00:47:45,297 I started to cry. 834 00:47:45,340 --> 00:47:46,907 And our dad said, "Why are you crying? 835 00:47:46,951 --> 00:47:48,561 He's just going away for a year." 836 00:47:48,604 --> 00:47:50,998 And I said, "No, he's not. He's never coming back." 837 00:47:51,042 --> 00:47:53,871 I was always trying to make a good picture 838 00:47:53,914 --> 00:47:56,917 for every assignment, no matter how bad it was. 839 00:47:56,961 --> 00:48:00,225 You know, if there's a dogthat crosses the street at 1:00, 840 00:48:00,268 --> 00:48:03,445 that has a potential to be the page-one photo. 841 00:48:03,489 --> 00:48:07,362 You realize your photographs do have an impact. 842 00:48:07,406 --> 00:48:09,277 I got a call one day from 843 00:48:09,321 --> 00:48:10,931 the director of photography at the Sun-Times, 844 00:48:10,975 --> 00:48:12,672 and he goes, "We want you to come interview." 845 00:48:12,715 --> 00:48:14,587 So I flew up to Chicago, 846 00:48:14,630 --> 00:48:16,763 and he hired me, and, uh, so I went from 847 00:48:16,806 --> 00:48:19,940 a 6,000-circulation daily newspaper 848 00:48:19,984 --> 00:48:21,768 where I was the only photographer 849 00:48:21,811 --> 00:48:24,031 to a 600,000-circulation newspaper 850 00:48:24,075 --> 00:48:27,905 where I was one of 25 photojournalists. 851 00:48:27,948 --> 00:48:30,995 I really think it was helpful for me to have 852 00:48:31,038 --> 00:48:34,302 the number of experiences that I had had. 853 00:48:34,346 --> 00:48:37,479 Did some stuff for National Geographic. 854 00:48:37,523 --> 00:48:40,743 When Lifewas a monthly, I did some work for them. 855 00:48:40,787 --> 00:48:42,658 Right after 9/11, 856 00:48:42,702 --> 00:48:45,574 a correspondent and I snuck into Afghanistan 857 00:48:45,618 --> 00:48:49,578 just as the-the war was getting underway. 858 00:48:49,622 --> 00:48:52,494 And in some ways, it was one of the more fulfilling things 859 00:48:52,538 --> 00:48:54,409 I've ever done in my career 860 00:48:54,453 --> 00:48:58,065 because my images were appearingin the Tribuneevery day, 861 00:48:58,109 --> 00:49:00,546 and I really felt that I was doing good work 862 00:49:00,589 --> 00:49:02,678 and people were seeing it. 863 00:49:02,722 --> 00:49:04,767 I don't want peopleto come away with the impression 864 00:49:04,811 --> 00:49:06,987 that I was a war photographer, 'cause I wasn't. 865 00:49:07,031 --> 00:49:09,424 But when there are RPGs coming at you, 866 00:49:09,468 --> 00:49:12,427 I did not do a really good job, 867 00:49:12,471 --> 00:49:14,995 'cause I was scared shit. I'll admit it. 868 00:49:15,039 --> 00:49:16,910 The realization was, "Okay, this is... 869 00:49:16,954 --> 00:49:18,520 I'm not good at this." 870 00:49:26,702 --> 00:49:29,749 We thank you again for coming here tonight. 871 00:49:29,792 --> 00:49:32,708 Lynsey was actually kidnapped twice in her career. 872 00:49:32,752 --> 00:49:34,797 We know that Brian swims with sharks. 873 00:49:34,841 --> 00:49:36,930 So, Pete, was there ever a time 874 00:49:36,974 --> 00:49:39,585 -where you really felt... 875 00:49:39,628 --> 00:49:42,980 ...really felt fearful in the White House 876 00:49:43,023 --> 00:49:45,678 beyond January 20, 2017? 877 00:49:50,596 --> 00:49:51,858 This White House. 878 00:49:51,901 --> 00:49:54,600 Yeah, this White House. 879 00:49:56,384 --> 00:49:58,821 -No, I never felt fearful. 880 00:49:58,865 --> 00:50:00,823 I didn't have bullets flying over my head, 881 00:50:00,867 --> 00:50:03,478 and I didn't have sharks coming at me from all directions, 882 00:50:03,522 --> 00:50:06,046 so I had it easy compared to these two. 883 00:50:06,090 --> 00:50:08,831 The one thing that-- uh, we were talking earlier-- 884 00:50:08,875 --> 00:50:11,834 you have to have intuition 885 00:50:11,878 --> 00:50:16,491 in terms of when it's time to-to give the man some space. 886 00:50:16,535 --> 00:50:19,494 So it's more of a just in... intuitive sense 887 00:50:19,538 --> 00:50:22,454 of when it's time to sort of slowly back away. 888 00:50:24,543 --> 00:50:26,719 Every three months, we would go to Walter Reed, 889 00:50:26,762 --> 00:50:29,504 and he would visit Wounded Warriors. 890 00:50:29,548 --> 00:50:33,421 I think it affected him emotionally. 891 00:50:33,465 --> 00:50:37,077 One time, he went, and we saw Cory Remsburg. 892 00:50:37,121 --> 00:50:39,036 He had gotten injured by an IED. 893 00:50:39,079 --> 00:50:41,690 The guy that he was on patrol with in Afghanistan 894 00:50:41,734 --> 00:50:43,431 was killed instantly. 895 00:50:43,475 --> 00:50:45,477 Cory was thrown into a ravine. 896 00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:46,826 He was underwater. 897 00:50:46,869 --> 00:50:49,437 Somehow he survived, not drowning. 898 00:50:49,481 --> 00:50:51,048 He spent months in a coma. 899 00:50:51,091 --> 00:50:52,745 He lost half his eyesight 900 00:50:52,788 --> 00:50:55,052 and the ability to control half his body. 901 00:50:55,095 --> 00:50:58,881 He had to relearn how to walk, talk and eat. 902 00:50:58,925 --> 00:51:01,536 But here's the thing that really took me aback. 903 00:51:01,580 --> 00:51:03,886 President Obama had met Cory 904 00:51:03,930 --> 00:51:07,542 in, uh, Normandy the previous June, 905 00:51:07,586 --> 00:51:10,632 and I had taken a picture of that encounter. 906 00:51:12,678 --> 00:51:16,725 And the picture, we had sent a copy to the family, 907 00:51:16,769 --> 00:51:19,119 and it was taped on the hospital wall. 908 00:51:19,163 --> 00:51:21,687 And I was looking at that picture 909 00:51:21,730 --> 00:51:24,777 and looking at Cory and saying to myself, 910 00:51:24,820 --> 00:51:27,736 "This is the real cost of war." 911 00:51:27,780 --> 00:51:30,957 Right? You some... you don't usually see it that starkly. 912 00:51:34,743 --> 00:51:37,137 Cory's made remarkable progress. 913 00:51:37,181 --> 00:51:41,185 Three years later, he visited with President Obama again 914 00:51:41,228 --> 00:51:43,665 and was starting to walk with a walker. 915 00:51:43,709 --> 00:51:47,800 In January of 2014, was the guest of honor 916 00:51:47,843 --> 00:51:49,976 at the State of the Union address 917 00:51:50,019 --> 00:51:53,110 and sat next to Michelle Obama. 918 00:51:53,153 --> 00:51:55,677 And then towards the end of the administration, 919 00:51:55,721 --> 00:52:01,727 President Obama visited him in Arizona at his new house. 920 00:52:07,820 --> 00:52:09,865 One of the most important parts 921 00:52:09,909 --> 00:52:13,173 of the president's day was when 922 00:52:13,217 --> 00:52:16,959 they would go out to cities all over the U.S. 923 00:52:17,003 --> 00:52:18,787 How long did it last? 924 00:52:18,831 --> 00:52:20,876 -Seemed like forever. -It-it must have. 925 00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:22,139 Thank God you guys are all right. 926 00:52:22,182 --> 00:52:23,618 -Yes, sir. -All right? And, uh... 927 00:52:37,980 --> 00:52:40,635 When you're face-to-face with people... 928 00:52:46,902 --> 00:52:49,992 ...those images are burned into your brain. 929 00:52:56,869 --> 00:52:59,001 And you carry that with you. 930 00:52:59,045 --> 00:53:01,178 Pete would always tell me the stories 931 00:53:01,221 --> 00:53:03,223 of what happened on the road that day. 932 00:53:03,267 --> 00:53:07,009 And when you go back, you are constantly reminded 933 00:53:07,053 --> 00:53:08,968 of why you're working so hard. 934 00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:16,845 You touched me so much with your clarity. 935 00:53:40,129 --> 00:53:43,785 Morning meeting was at 9:30 in the Oval Office, 936 00:53:43,829 --> 00:53:45,744 and every day, it was the same kind of meeting. 937 00:53:45,787 --> 00:53:48,790 People sitting in the same chairs, in the same spots. 938 00:53:48,834 --> 00:53:50,836 And I would think, "Oh, my God, I can't look 939 00:53:50,879 --> 00:53:53,099 at another picture from this meeting." 940 00:53:53,142 --> 00:53:56,276 But you have to look through frame-by-frame just in case. 941 00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:59,148 And one night, I saw a scene, 942 00:53:59,192 --> 00:54:01,586 and I started to cry. 943 00:54:01,629 --> 00:54:04,589 And I get chills thinking about it because it was some... 944 00:54:04,632 --> 00:54:06,286 I don't know what the meeting was, 945 00:54:06,330 --> 00:54:09,158 but I knew from looking at the president's face 946 00:54:09,202 --> 00:54:12,161 the intensity of the decision that he was making. 947 00:54:12,205 --> 00:54:15,817 And I was incredibly moved 948 00:54:15,861 --> 00:54:18,298 because I knew the responsibility 949 00:54:18,342 --> 00:54:20,300 and the weight of that job, 950 00:54:20,344 --> 00:54:23,912 and it made me understand how important it is 951 00:54:23,956 --> 00:54:27,307 to have the right person in that chair 952 00:54:27,351 --> 00:54:28,961 making those decisions. 953 00:54:29,004 --> 00:54:34,880 When we vote, we're voting for a decision maker 954 00:54:34,923 --> 00:54:38,275 who is listening to everyone around him 955 00:54:38,318 --> 00:54:40,407 and is then making that decision. 956 00:54:40,451 --> 00:54:42,061 And people say, 957 00:54:42,104 --> 00:54:43,758 "It doesn't matter who's in the White House. 958 00:54:43,802 --> 00:54:45,238 It doesn't matter. It doesn't..." 959 00:54:45,282 --> 00:54:47,893 It totally matters who's in the White House. 960 00:54:49,895 --> 00:54:52,680 Breaking news that the world's most wanted man 961 00:54:52,724 --> 00:54:54,116 has been killed in a mission 962 00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:56,336 led by United States Special Forces. 963 00:54:56,380 --> 00:54:58,947 President Trump laying out what he watched 964 00:54:58,991 --> 00:55:01,385 as he started to view this operation 965 00:55:01,428 --> 00:55:03,212 in the Situation Room. 966 00:55:03,256 --> 00:55:05,084 When you look at this picture... 967 00:55:06,128 --> 00:55:08,957 ...definitely looks like he's looking at the camera. 968 00:55:09,001 --> 00:55:10,655 Don't you think? 969 00:55:10,698 --> 00:55:12,961 And I've been in this room... 970 00:55:13,005 --> 00:55:16,443 you know, more than a thousand times. 971 00:55:16,487 --> 00:55:20,012 The photographer is completely blocking the screen. 972 00:55:20,055 --> 00:55:24,059 It looks fishy to me. 973 00:55:24,103 --> 00:55:27,759 If you're gonna release a photo like that, 974 00:55:27,802 --> 00:55:32,154 then you've got to be truthful about what's taking place. 975 00:55:32,198 --> 00:55:34,853 What was he looking at? 976 00:55:39,205 --> 00:55:42,339 I'll go to the New York Times story that I saw. 977 00:55:42,382 --> 00:55:46,212 "Unlike his predecessor, Mr. Trump does not allow 978 00:55:46,255 --> 00:55:49,084 "his staff photographer free range 979 00:55:49,128 --> 00:55:51,217 "to capture behind-the-scenes photographs 980 00:55:51,260 --> 00:55:54,612 "of life and work in the White House. 981 00:55:54,655 --> 00:55:58,964 "Instead, he most often invites Ms. Craighead 982 00:55:59,007 --> 00:56:01,836 "or other White House photographers into the room 983 00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:06,754 specifically for the purpose of taking an official picture." 984 00:56:06,798 --> 00:56:10,105 We need to have real moments of real history, 985 00:56:10,149 --> 00:56:13,892 not posed moments of history. 986 00:56:14,849 --> 00:56:17,896 So, it's hard to know what you're missing. 987 00:56:22,466 --> 00:56:24,642 I'll talk about the bin Laden raid. 988 00:56:25,817 --> 00:56:28,297 It was a very tense day. 989 00:56:28,341 --> 00:56:32,301 Throughout that day, h-he had meetings in the Situation Room, 990 00:56:32,345 --> 00:56:34,434 and they had set up the communications link 991 00:56:34,478 --> 00:56:37,002 in a small conference room 992 00:56:37,045 --> 00:56:40,440 across from the big Situation Room. 993 00:56:40,484 --> 00:56:42,790 So, when President Obama walked in, 994 00:56:42,834 --> 00:56:46,315 Brigadier General Brad Webb stood up to give up his chair, 995 00:56:46,359 --> 00:56:49,188 and President Obama saw that he was on a laptop 996 00:56:49,231 --> 00:56:51,756 communicating directly with Admiral Bill McRaven, 997 00:56:51,799 --> 00:56:54,846 who was essentially running the raid from Afghanistan, 998 00:56:54,889 --> 00:56:56,935 and said, "No, no, no, you stay right there. 999 00:56:56,978 --> 00:56:58,893 I'm just gonna pull up a chair next to you." 1000 00:56:58,937 --> 00:57:01,069 So, that's why President Obama is seated where he is. 1001 00:57:01,113 --> 00:57:03,985 You've got the most powerful people 1002 00:57:04,029 --> 00:57:06,031 in the executive branch of our government 1003 00:57:06,074 --> 00:57:09,077 all gathered in this room at the same time, 1004 00:57:09,121 --> 00:57:11,123 and yet they were powerless. 1005 00:57:11,166 --> 00:57:13,908 There was essentially nothing they could do 1006 00:57:13,952 --> 00:57:17,085 to affect the outcome of what they were witnessing. 1007 00:57:17,129 --> 00:57:21,307 And now it's up to those Special Forces on the ground. 1008 00:57:21,350 --> 00:57:24,223 That bin Laden photo is so powerful 1009 00:57:24,266 --> 00:57:25,442 because nobody is posing. 1010 00:57:25,485 --> 00:57:27,705 Um, you can see the nerves 1011 00:57:27,748 --> 00:57:29,228 on everybody's face in that room. 1012 00:57:29,271 --> 00:57:31,317 Tonight, I can report 1013 00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:34,015 to the American people and to the world 1014 00:57:34,059 --> 00:57:36,322 that the United States has conducted an operation 1015 00:57:36,365 --> 00:57:40,108 that killed Osama bin Laden, the leader of al-Qaeda. 1016 00:57:40,152 --> 00:57:42,502 The picture in the bottom right 1017 00:57:42,546 --> 00:57:46,375 is right after they knew they had killed bin Laden. 1018 00:57:46,419 --> 00:57:48,203 And you don't see any high fives. 1019 00:57:48,247 --> 00:57:52,730 It's, like, very anticlimactic in a lot of ways. 1020 00:57:54,209 --> 00:57:56,081 As a photographer, 1021 00:57:56,124 --> 00:58:01,216 as well as-as a human being, what were some of the things 1022 00:58:01,260 --> 00:58:04,176 which were easy for you to capture, 1023 00:58:04,219 --> 00:58:07,527 and what were a little more difficult? 1024 00:58:07,571 --> 00:58:10,487 I-I don't know that there was anything that was easy. 1025 00:58:10,530 --> 00:58:15,970 The hardest things were when he would have to meet 1026 00:58:16,014 --> 00:58:19,321 with families that were affected by tragedies. 1027 00:58:19,365 --> 00:58:21,367 And I am... I'm sad to say 1028 00:58:21,410 --> 00:58:24,239 that we had to do this too many times. 1029 00:58:24,283 --> 00:58:26,894 And it was incredibly emotional and difficult. 1030 00:58:26,938 --> 00:58:30,463 I felt intrusive at times but also that it was 1031 00:58:30,507 --> 00:58:33,379 part of my job to document these moments. 1032 00:58:33,422 --> 00:58:35,076 But I would say that that was the... 1033 00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:38,036 those were the most difficult times. 1034 00:58:38,079 --> 00:58:39,385 You dialed 911. 1035 00:58:39,428 --> 00:58:40,908 What's the location of your emergency? 1036 00:58:40,952 --> 00:58:42,388 Sandy Hook Elementary School. 1037 00:58:42,431 --> 00:58:44,172 -12 Dickenson Drive. - I think there's 1038 00:58:44,216 --> 00:58:46,914 somebody shooting in here, at Sandy Hook School. 1039 00:58:46,958 --> 00:58:49,090 Somebody's got a gun. I saw a glimpse of somebody. 1040 00:58:49,134 --> 00:58:50,570 They're running down the hallway. 1041 00:58:50,614 --> 00:58:52,267 -Okay... -Ooh, they're still running. 1042 00:58:52,311 --> 00:58:54,008 They're still shooting. 1043 00:58:54,052 --> 00:58:56,837 There's still shooting going on. Please. 1044 00:59:01,407 --> 00:59:04,802 One of the worst days of his presidency was the day 1045 00:59:04,845 --> 00:59:08,849 of the Sandy Hook Elementary School shootings in Newtown. 1046 00:59:08,893 --> 00:59:10,895 John Brennan, who at that time was 1047 00:59:10,938 --> 00:59:12,984 the Homeland Security advisor, 1048 00:59:13,027 --> 00:59:14,899 was updating him throughout the morning 1049 00:59:14,942 --> 00:59:18,859 and then finally came in and said that 26 people had died, 1050 00:59:18,903 --> 00:59:21,601 including 20 grade school kids. 1051 00:59:21,645 --> 00:59:24,952 He's reacting as a parent 1052 00:59:24,996 --> 00:59:26,606 more than probably as a president, 1053 00:59:26,650 --> 00:59:29,827 imagining the horror... 1054 00:59:29,870 --> 00:59:33,134 of kissing your child in the morning, 1055 00:59:33,178 --> 00:59:36,181 sending them off to school on the school bus, 1056 00:59:36,224 --> 00:59:37,965 and then only a few hours later 1057 00:59:38,009 --> 00:59:40,620 having to identify your child's body 1058 00:59:40,664 --> 00:59:44,537 who's been shot multiple times at close range. 1059 00:59:44,581 --> 00:59:48,541 He felt it was his duty as president 1060 00:59:48,585 --> 00:59:52,023 to speak to the nation in th-these times of tragedy. 1061 00:59:52,066 --> 00:59:54,068 I had never seen him do this before-- 1062 00:59:54,112 --> 00:59:56,984 blow his cheeks as if he was unsure 1063 00:59:57,028 --> 00:59:59,117 whether he would be able to keep it together. 1064 01:00:00,988 --> 01:00:05,427 The majority of those who died today were children. 1065 01:00:05,471 --> 01:00:07,516 Uh, beautiful little kids 1066 01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:10,345 between the ages of five and ten years old. 1067 01:00:21,922 --> 01:00:24,359 They had their entire lives ahead of them: 1068 01:00:24,403 --> 01:00:27,972 birthdays, graduations, 1069 01:00:28,015 --> 01:00:30,148 weddings, 1070 01:00:30,191 --> 01:00:32,237 kids of their own. 1071 01:00:37,024 --> 01:00:39,374 Among the fallen were also teachers, 1072 01:00:39,418 --> 01:00:41,420 men and women who devoted their lives 1073 01:00:41,463 --> 01:00:45,032 to helping our children fulfill their dreams. 1074 01:00:45,076 --> 01:00:48,209 So, our hearts are broken today. 1075 01:00:48,253 --> 01:00:50,385 This evening, Michelle and I will do 1076 01:00:50,429 --> 01:00:53,388 what I know every parent in America will do, 1077 01:00:53,432 --> 01:00:56,043 which is hug our children a little tighter. 1078 01:00:56,087 --> 01:00:58,698 And we'll tell them that we love them, 1079 01:00:58,742 --> 01:01:02,615 and we'll remind each other how deeply we love one another. 1080 01:01:02,659 --> 01:01:04,530 But there are families in Connecticut 1081 01:01:04,573 --> 01:01:06,706 who cannot do that tonight, 1082 01:01:06,750 --> 01:01:09,578 and they need all of us right now. 1083 01:01:09,622 --> 01:01:12,494 In the hard days to come, that community needs us 1084 01:01:12,538 --> 01:01:15,236 to be at our best as Americans, 1085 01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:19,458 and I will do everything in my power as president to help. 1086 01:01:20,502 --> 01:01:23,941 Malia, who had just gotten home from school, 1087 01:01:23,984 --> 01:01:27,074 was standing in the hallway, and he latched onto her. 1088 01:01:27,118 --> 01:01:29,424 He just would not let her go. 1089 01:01:32,732 --> 01:01:37,519 Two days later, he was invited to come to Newtown. 1090 01:01:37,563 --> 01:01:39,608 It happened to coincide with, uh, 1091 01:01:39,652 --> 01:01:42,046 Sasha's annual, uh, dance recital, 1092 01:01:42,089 --> 01:01:44,352 which he was gonna have to miss. 1093 01:01:44,396 --> 01:01:47,660 So he decided to stop by the dress rehearsal 1094 01:01:47,704 --> 01:01:51,664 in the afternoon before flying up to, uh, Newtown. 1095 01:01:51,708 --> 01:01:54,145 He sat in a box by himself, 1096 01:01:54,188 --> 01:01:57,278 started editing his remarks already for that night. 1097 01:01:57,322 --> 01:01:59,454 And then, when Sasha was dancing, 1098 01:01:59,498 --> 01:02:01,413 he would turn and watch her. 1099 01:02:01,456 --> 01:02:04,459 At one point, I went down to the third row 1100 01:02:04,503 --> 01:02:06,766 to take some pictures of Sasha in her outfit 1101 01:02:06,810 --> 01:02:08,376 'cause I figured those would be 1102 01:02:08,420 --> 01:02:10,204 the only pictures they would have. 1103 01:02:10,248 --> 01:02:13,599 When I was standing there, this one young dance troupe 1104 01:02:13,642 --> 01:02:15,253 had filed out from backstage 1105 01:02:15,296 --> 01:02:17,995 and sat in the row right in front of me, 1106 01:02:18,038 --> 01:02:21,085 and there were about 20 or 25 little kids. 1107 01:02:21,128 --> 01:02:23,043 I said, "How old are you guys?" 1108 01:02:23,087 --> 01:02:24,697 She said, "We're six." 1109 01:02:24,741 --> 01:02:27,439 And I thought to myself, you know, 1110 01:02:27,482 --> 01:02:29,615 this is what just got wiped out in Newtown 1111 01:02:29,658 --> 01:02:31,269 was this whole row. 1112 01:02:31,312 --> 01:02:33,358 And I had to... I had to turn away 1113 01:02:33,401 --> 01:02:35,664 and start... I started crying. 1114 01:02:35,708 --> 01:02:38,537 We flew up to Connecticut, 1115 01:02:38,580 --> 01:02:40,626 and he spent two and a half hours 1116 01:02:40,669 --> 01:02:43,455 meeting with the families. 1117 01:02:43,498 --> 01:02:47,198 This is the Wheeler family, Francine and David. 1118 01:02:47,241 --> 01:02:50,723 Their son, Ben, who was six, was shot and killed. 1119 01:02:50,767 --> 01:02:52,769 And their oldest son, Nate, 1120 01:02:52,812 --> 01:02:56,033 hid in a school supply closet during the shooting. 1121 01:03:03,867 --> 01:03:06,173 We learned that the president was coming. 1122 01:03:09,568 --> 01:03:13,137 We waited for a long time because... 1123 01:03:13,180 --> 01:03:14,834 the president's people were trying 1124 01:03:14,878 --> 01:03:16,705 to hurry him through the process. 1125 01:03:16,749 --> 01:03:19,578 And he said, "No. 1126 01:03:19,621 --> 01:03:22,363 I will take as long as it takes." 1127 01:03:24,278 --> 01:03:29,414 He comes in, and... and he made a beeline for Francine. 1128 01:03:36,725 --> 01:03:39,816 And he just wrapped her up. 1129 01:03:47,388 --> 01:03:49,826 Just held her. 1130 01:03:51,915 --> 01:03:55,396 Let her, you know, sob into his lapel. 1131 01:04:01,315 --> 01:04:03,100 And I asked him... 1132 01:04:03,143 --> 01:04:05,493 I said, "Is this different?" 1133 01:04:08,801 --> 01:04:12,849 And he said, "I hope so, but I don't know." 1134 01:04:16,243 --> 01:04:20,421 There's no substitute for empathy. 1135 01:04:20,465 --> 01:04:25,296 It is a foundational relationship 1136 01:04:25,339 --> 01:04:27,907 between human beings. 1137 01:04:27,951 --> 01:04:32,129 And to know that the guy who's running the show... 1138 01:04:33,957 --> 01:04:38,309 ...cares enough not just to come and visit 1139 01:04:38,352 --> 01:04:40,137 but to... 1140 01:04:41,921 --> 01:04:46,447 ...to let you know that he cares about you, 1141 01:04:46,491 --> 01:04:48,667 that he cares about your wife. 1142 01:04:50,190 --> 01:04:51,800 You know, that he cares 1143 01:04:51,844 --> 01:04:54,499 about your nine-year-old kid. 1144 01:05:00,548 --> 01:05:06,467 We are so good at dismissing... 1145 01:05:06,511 --> 01:05:09,644 the people that we elect to serve us. 1146 01:05:09,688 --> 01:05:14,171 We're so good at turning them into things that aren't people. 1147 01:05:15,650 --> 01:05:19,176 And we have to be very careful about that. 1148 01:05:19,219 --> 01:05:22,483 Because when you do that, 1149 01:05:22,527 --> 01:05:25,878 then you get the elected officials that you deserve. 1150 01:05:29,882 --> 01:05:33,973 I've seen him run up these steps many times. 1151 01:05:34,017 --> 01:05:37,368 He didn't run up the steps that night. 1152 01:05:47,552 --> 01:05:49,423 Whether it's Newtown 1153 01:05:49,467 --> 01:05:51,469 or Aurora or any of these places, 1154 01:05:51,512 --> 01:05:53,297 Pete was the only guy who was always 1155 01:05:53,340 --> 01:05:54,907 in those rooms, you know? 1156 01:05:55,995 --> 01:05:58,345 And so, you could sense his anger 1157 01:05:58,389 --> 01:06:00,913 at-at what was going on around him. 1158 01:06:02,436 --> 01:06:05,309 So, can we go to the place 1159 01:06:05,352 --> 01:06:08,616 -that I usually get the, uh, cherry tomatoes? -Yeah. 1160 01:06:08,660 --> 01:06:12,272 Uh, can I get one kale bunch? 1161 01:06:12,316 --> 01:06:14,405 -Yeah, yeah. Thanks. Yep. -Thank you. 1162 01:06:14,448 --> 01:06:16,015 Presidential preference poll. All you need 1163 01:06:16,059 --> 01:06:18,278 -is a Sharpie to vote. -Oh, yeah, I'm voting. 1164 01:06:18,322 --> 01:06:20,672 I know Joe Biden, so I'm voting for Joe Biden. 1165 01:06:20,715 --> 01:06:22,282 Wait a minute. You're Pete, right? 1166 01:06:22,326 --> 01:06:23,588 -Yeah. Yeah. -I was at your show last night. 1167 01:06:23,631 --> 01:06:25,546 -Oh, you were? Oh, great. -It was terrific. 1168 01:06:25,590 --> 01:06:26,591 -Nice. Thanks. -Oh! I was, too! -It was excellent. Yeah, yeah. 1169 01:06:26,634 --> 01:06:28,245 -Yeah. -I'm Toni Brown. 1170 01:06:28,288 --> 01:06:29,550 -Oh, hi. Nice to meet you. -Welcome to Madison. 1171 01:06:30,769 --> 01:06:32,510 DIRECTOR/PRODUCER: Rumor has it 1172 01:06:32,553 --> 01:06:34,555 that the president takes responsibility 1173 01:06:34,599 --> 01:06:36,949 -for this happy union. 1174 01:06:36,993 --> 01:06:40,909 So, you know, as president, he started in 2009. 1175 01:06:40,953 --> 01:06:44,304 So, as he gets to know me more 1176 01:06:44,348 --> 01:06:48,047 and he gets to meet Patti, 1177 01:06:48,091 --> 01:06:50,310 he would tell people that he-he liked her 1178 01:06:50,354 --> 01:06:52,921 better than he liked me, you know. 1179 01:06:52,965 --> 01:06:56,360 Um, and so he'd start working on me, 1180 01:06:56,403 --> 01:06:58,579 like, in terms of, like, "Well, wait a minute. 1181 01:06:58,623 --> 01:07:01,017 So, you guys have been together for," 1182 01:07:01,060 --> 01:07:03,584 you know, whatever it was-- 15, 17 years-- 1183 01:07:03,628 --> 01:07:05,760 "and what... so, why haven't you gotten married?" 1184 01:07:05,804 --> 01:07:08,415 President Obama pushes everybody to get married. 1185 01:07:08,459 --> 01:07:11,418 Like, he loves... he loves love stories. 1186 01:07:11,462 --> 01:07:13,072 Michelle was on the trip, 1187 01:07:13,116 --> 01:07:15,031 and we're sitting in the conference room, 1188 01:07:15,074 --> 01:07:18,643 and he's just, like, n-not letting it go, 1189 01:07:18,686 --> 01:07:21,472 and he's turning to Michelle and saying, 1190 01:07:21,515 --> 01:07:24,605 "Can you believe that Pete won't ask Patti to marry him?" 1191 01:07:24,649 --> 01:07:26,825 And-and that's when he brought up, 1192 01:07:26,868 --> 01:07:28,653 "We'll do the wedding in the Rose Garden, 1193 01:07:28,696 --> 01:07:31,917 and I'll officiate," and I remember I said to him... 1194 01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:34,528 I said, "No, I don't want to do that," and he goes, 1195 01:07:34,572 --> 01:07:38,010 -"What? The Rose Garden's not good enough for you?" - 1196 01:08:22,533 --> 01:08:26,493 The most interesting part of my job was that I saw him 1197 01:08:26,537 --> 01:08:28,974 in all these different compartments of his life. 1198 01:08:29,017 --> 01:08:31,019 I saw him as a dad. 1199 01:08:31,063 --> 01:08:33,413 I saw how he behaved with his children. 1200 01:08:33,457 --> 01:08:36,895 I watched this family grow up, essentially. 1201 01:08:36,938 --> 01:08:40,072 You know, I think Sasha and Malia did such a great job 1202 01:08:40,116 --> 01:08:41,726 under the limelight. 1203 01:08:41,769 --> 01:08:45,860 And it-it's really a testament to Michelle 1204 01:08:45,904 --> 01:08:48,080 and Barack. 1205 01:08:48,124 --> 01:08:51,170 And Marian Robinson, who you see here on the right, 1206 01:08:51,214 --> 01:08:53,607 Michelle's mom, helped out, 1207 01:08:53,651 --> 01:08:58,003 especially when Michelle went on solo trips overseas. 1208 01:08:58,046 --> 01:09:02,007 This is him singing "Happy Birthday" to Michelle. 1209 01:09:02,050 --> 01:09:05,053 We were on a boat ride in the Gulf Coast. 1210 01:09:05,097 --> 01:09:08,144 I saw Michelle stroking his hand. 1211 01:09:08,187 --> 01:09:10,494 Then at the second inauguration, 1212 01:09:10,537 --> 01:09:12,017 just before they boarded the motorcade, 1213 01:09:12,060 --> 01:09:13,453 I, uh, approached him. 1214 01:09:13,497 --> 01:09:14,976 Michelle was standing next to him. 1215 01:09:15,020 --> 01:09:17,544 I said, "Mr. President, do you mind if I ride 1216 01:09:17,588 --> 01:09:21,548 in the limousine with you for part of the parade route?" 1217 01:09:21,592 --> 01:09:24,943 And he looked me in the eye, and he said, 1218 01:09:24,986 --> 01:09:27,032 "Well, Michelle and I were planning to make out." 1219 01:09:28,860 --> 01:09:30,470 And then he just started laughing. 1220 01:09:30,514 --> 01:09:33,125 He's like, "Of course you can," you know. 1221 01:09:37,260 --> 01:09:40,828 And he'll tell you that the best day at the White House 1222 01:09:40,872 --> 01:09:43,527 was the day that Congress passed the Affordable Care Act. 1223 01:09:43,570 --> 01:09:44,876 Not true. 1224 01:09:44,919 --> 01:09:46,660 The best day for him at the White House 1225 01:09:46,704 --> 01:09:49,576 was the day that Sasha's coach could not make the game 1226 01:09:49,620 --> 01:09:51,187 and he got to coach the game. 1227 01:09:53,580 --> 01:09:55,626 With a little help from Reggie Love. 1228 01:09:55,669 --> 01:10:00,631 So, um, the Sidwell Friends Vipers were undefeated. 1229 01:10:00,674 --> 01:10:02,720 And during the first half, 1230 01:10:02,763 --> 01:10:06,245 under the tutelage of Coach Obama, 1231 01:10:06,289 --> 01:10:07,681 they fell behind. 1232 01:10:09,727 --> 01:10:11,250 So he called time-out. 1233 01:10:13,644 --> 01:10:15,950 And Sasha's looking at him like, 1234 01:10:15,994 --> 01:10:19,867 "Dad, you are embarrassing me." 1235 01:10:19,911 --> 01:10:22,261 These are, like, nine-year-old girls, 1236 01:10:22,305 --> 01:10:24,089 and he's coaching as if 1237 01:10:24,132 --> 01:10:26,091 this is game seven of the NBA Finals. 1238 01:10:34,926 --> 01:10:38,799 And one my favorite days was we had a big snowstorm. 1239 01:10:38,843 --> 01:10:41,062 It was called "Snowmageddon." 1240 01:10:41,106 --> 01:10:43,978 And he ended up coming out for about two hours. 1241 01:10:44,022 --> 01:10:45,980 It was just the three of them and me. 1242 01:10:46,024 --> 01:10:48,113 At one point, they were in the Rose Garden. 1243 01:10:48,156 --> 01:10:51,029 And Sasha, you can see what she's about to do. 1244 01:10:52,770 --> 01:10:55,163 -She did it. 1245 01:10:55,207 --> 01:10:58,166 I mean, like, who else could throw a snowball 1246 01:10:58,210 --> 01:11:00,168 in the face of the president of the United States 1247 01:11:00,212 --> 01:11:03,650 and not get tackled by the Secret Service? 1248 01:11:03,694 --> 01:11:06,044 To this day, he has a photo 1249 01:11:06,087 --> 01:11:08,612 that's the lock screen photo on his iPad, 1250 01:11:08,655 --> 01:11:10,918 and it's this picture of the three of them 1251 01:11:10,962 --> 01:11:13,138 doing snow angels on the South Lawn. 1252 01:11:13,181 --> 01:11:14,792 Aw. 1253 01:11:14,835 --> 01:11:16,097 And then they grow up. 1254 01:12:30,302 --> 01:12:34,393 One-one of the most emotional days, uh, was in 2015. 1255 01:12:34,437 --> 01:12:36,352 In the morning on this day, 1256 01:12:36,395 --> 01:12:39,267 the Supreme Court upheld same-sex marriage. 1257 01:12:40,138 --> 01:12:41,966 It was a beautiful, 1258 01:12:42,009 --> 01:12:44,664 summery, warm morning. 1259 01:12:45,491 --> 01:12:47,014 Everyone knew that that decision 1260 01:12:47,058 --> 01:12:48,886 would come down that day. We didn't know when. 1261 01:12:48,929 --> 01:12:51,410 Um, and like every morning, went in, unlocked the door, 1262 01:12:51,454 --> 01:12:53,412 um, turned on the television. 1263 01:12:53,456 --> 01:12:55,762 You can hear the cheer in the crowd. 1264 01:12:55,806 --> 01:12:57,198 -A very dramatic moment here. 1265 01:12:57,242 --> 01:12:58,983 -A five-four decision. 1266 01:12:59,026 --> 01:13:02,769 And I called Joe, my now husband, 1267 01:13:02,813 --> 01:13:08,035 um, who was, uh, there, and I said, "It's done." 1268 01:13:08,079 --> 01:13:12,649 And the president walked in and put his arm around me. 1269 01:13:12,692 --> 01:13:16,087 It felt like, for that period of time, 1270 01:13:16,130 --> 01:13:17,958 we were on the right side of history. 1271 01:13:18,002 --> 01:13:20,396 The president did an interview in the Cabinet Room 1272 01:13:20,439 --> 01:13:22,310 several months before then. 1273 01:13:22,354 --> 01:13:24,051 I've been going through an evolution on this issue. 1274 01:13:24,095 --> 01:13:27,228 Uh, when I think about members of my own staff 1275 01:13:27,272 --> 01:13:29,448 who are in incredibly committed 1276 01:13:29,492 --> 01:13:32,799 and monogamous relationships-- same-sex relationships-- 1277 01:13:32,843 --> 01:13:35,802 I think same-sex couples should be able to get married. 1278 01:13:35,846 --> 01:13:38,065 And when he vocalized in that interview 1279 01:13:38,109 --> 01:13:41,068 his support for same-sex marriage, 1280 01:13:41,112 --> 01:13:43,288 that was a-a moment for me, as well. 1281 01:13:44,245 --> 01:13:46,813 Sometimes there aredays like this, 1282 01:13:46,857 --> 01:13:51,731 when that slow, steady effort 1283 01:13:51,775 --> 01:13:55,474 is rewarded with justice 1284 01:13:55,518 --> 01:13:59,347 that arrives like a thunderbolt. 1285 01:14:01,872 --> 01:14:05,049 Then, later that morning, we flew to Charleston. 1286 01:14:05,092 --> 01:14:07,007 President Obama was invited to give 1287 01:14:07,051 --> 01:14:11,098 the eulogy for Reverend Clementa Pinckney. 1288 01:14:11,142 --> 01:14:13,405 He was one of the nine African Americans 1289 01:14:13,449 --> 01:14:15,233 shot and killed 1290 01:14:15,276 --> 01:14:18,758 at Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church 1291 01:14:18,802 --> 01:14:22,501 by somebody who had prayed with this group of nine people 1292 01:14:22,545 --> 01:14:25,373 at a prayer service for an hour 1293 01:14:25,417 --> 01:14:28,246 and then took out a gun and killed them all. 1294 01:14:28,289 --> 01:14:31,728 And President Obama wanted to give a eulogy 1295 01:14:31,771 --> 01:14:33,860 with the theme of "grace." 1296 01:14:34,992 --> 01:14:36,384 "Amazing Grace." 1297 01:14:40,563 --> 01:14:42,303 "Amazing Grace." 1298 01:15:08,591 --> 01:15:10,549 Yes! 1299 01:15:10,593 --> 01:15:14,510 -Sing, Mr. President. 1300 01:15:23,475 --> 01:15:25,999 It was emotional in the moment, as you can imagine. 1301 01:15:26,043 --> 01:15:28,785 I didn't know he was gonna sing "Amazing Grace." 1302 01:15:28,828 --> 01:15:31,918 And I didn't realize, like, the-the struggle. 1303 01:15:31,962 --> 01:15:34,530 You could see him trying to decide, 1304 01:15:34,573 --> 01:15:36,444 "Can I pull this off? 1305 01:15:36,488 --> 01:15:39,099 Should I speak the words or sing them?" 1306 01:15:39,143 --> 01:15:41,449 And he's trying to get the courage up to sing, 1307 01:15:41,493 --> 01:15:42,973 and he... and he did. 1308 01:16:08,433 --> 01:16:12,393 Bidding farewell to the reverend's daughters and widow. 1309 01:16:13,220 --> 01:16:17,877 Meeting with some of the other families backstage. 1310 01:16:17,921 --> 01:16:21,185 And then we flew back to D.C. 1311 01:16:21,228 --> 01:16:24,188 Someone had decided to light the White House 1312 01:16:24,231 --> 01:16:26,494 in rainbow colors. 1313 01:16:26,538 --> 01:16:30,498 These are all White House staff out on the North Lawn. 1314 01:16:30,542 --> 01:16:31,848 People were crying. 1315 01:16:31,891 --> 01:16:34,328 People were drinking champagne. 1316 01:16:36,113 --> 01:16:38,942 It was, I think, one of only two times 1317 01:16:38,985 --> 01:16:41,466 that I called my wife. 1318 01:16:41,509 --> 01:16:43,337 I said to her, "I don't care 1319 01:16:43,381 --> 01:16:45,035 "what you're doing or what you're wearing. 1320 01:16:45,078 --> 01:16:46,993 "Get in a taxi and come to the White House. 1321 01:16:47,037 --> 01:16:50,910 You need to be here to see this celebration." 1322 01:17:08,711 --> 01:17:10,364 How many people are you gonna be 1323 01:17:10,408 --> 01:17:11,975 -speaking in front of? -There's gonna be, like, 1324 01:17:12,018 --> 01:17:13,367 -800 people there. 1325 01:17:13,411 --> 01:17:15,152 -Yeah. -You ready, man? 1326 01:17:15,195 --> 01:17:16,457 Am I ready? 1327 01:17:16,501 --> 01:17:18,372 -Yeah, you ready? -Yeah. 1328 01:17:18,416 --> 01:17:19,939 Was Obama nice? 1329 01:17:19,983 --> 01:17:21,419 Yeah. 1330 01:17:21,462 --> 01:17:23,551 You'll hear all about him today. 1331 01:17:23,595 --> 01:17:25,118 Sweet. 1332 01:17:27,555 --> 01:17:31,298 Clearly, I could see 1333 01:17:31,342 --> 01:17:35,085 what he meant to the African American community. 1334 01:17:35,128 --> 01:17:38,131 As-as time went on, I was probably more aware 1335 01:17:38,175 --> 01:17:43,006 of just trying to tell the story 1336 01:17:43,049 --> 01:17:47,619 of what it meant for them, 1337 01:17:47,663 --> 01:17:51,405 uh, to have... 1338 01:17:51,449 --> 01:17:54,582 you know, to have him up onstage. 1339 01:18:02,286 --> 01:18:05,681 It was often in the back of my mind 1340 01:18:05,724 --> 01:18:08,074 that he was the first African American president 1341 01:18:08,118 --> 01:18:12,252 and I had to incorporate that into my photography. 1342 01:18:12,296 --> 01:18:16,300 This is Ruby Bridges, in person and as pictured 1343 01:18:16,343 --> 01:18:19,259 in the famous Norman Rockwell painting. 1344 01:18:19,303 --> 01:18:21,000 She was the first African American 1345 01:18:21,044 --> 01:18:24,090 to desegregate schools in Louisiana. 1346 01:18:24,134 --> 01:18:27,006 I think it's fair to say that, if it hadn't been for you guys, 1347 01:18:27,050 --> 01:18:29,008 I might not be here and we wouldn't be looking 1348 01:18:29,052 --> 01:18:30,401 -at this together, so... -Yeah. 1349 01:18:31,532 --> 01:18:35,667 This is Paul McCartney singing "Michelle" to Michelle. 1350 01:18:35,711 --> 01:18:37,582 The next day, I was walking 1351 01:18:37,625 --> 01:18:39,627 on the colonnade with President Obama. 1352 01:18:39,671 --> 01:18:41,499 I said, "That was really cool last night 1353 01:18:41,542 --> 01:18:43,501 when McCartney sang 'Michelle.'" 1354 01:18:43,544 --> 01:18:45,329 And President Obama turned to me. 1355 01:18:45,372 --> 01:18:48,114 He goes, "Yeah, I don't think Michelle Obama growing up 1356 01:18:48,158 --> 01:18:51,422 "on the South Side of Chicago as a young African American kid 1357 01:18:51,465 --> 01:18:53,641 "thought someday she'd be sitting in the front row 1358 01:18:53,685 --> 01:18:56,035 "of the White House as first lady 1359 01:18:56,079 --> 01:18:59,647 as a former Beatle sang her namesake song." 1360 01:19:00,736 --> 01:19:02,999 And then there's this picture. 1361 01:19:03,042 --> 01:19:05,131 This is Jacob Philadelphia. 1362 01:19:05,175 --> 01:19:07,394 At one point, Jacob's mom said, 1363 01:19:07,438 --> 01:19:09,396 "Mr. President, Jacob has a question for you." 1364 01:19:09,440 --> 01:19:12,095 So Jacob's kind of like... 1365 01:19:12,138 --> 01:19:15,141 "Mr. President, my friends told me 1366 01:19:15,185 --> 01:19:17,665 that my haircut is just like yours." 1367 01:19:17,709 --> 01:19:20,538 -And with that, uh, 1368 01:19:20,581 --> 01:19:23,497 President Obama bent over, Jacob touched his head. 1369 01:19:23,541 --> 01:19:26,196 Click, I got one photo, and it was gone. 1370 01:19:27,719 --> 01:19:31,462 That image waswhat Barack Obama had said to us 1371 01:19:31,505 --> 01:19:33,464 two years ago in an office in Chicago. 1372 01:19:33,507 --> 01:19:36,641 That kid literally can't even believe, 1373 01:19:36,684 --> 01:19:38,686 even though he's seeing the president of the United States 1374 01:19:38,730 --> 01:19:41,211 in the Oval Office, until he can feel his hair, 1375 01:19:41,254 --> 01:19:43,691 he doesn't truly believe that he's just like me. 1376 01:19:43,735 --> 01:19:46,651 That single image stands for so much more. 1377 01:19:46,694 --> 01:19:48,740 It stands for how kids 1378 01:19:48,784 --> 01:19:53,223 will see themselves differently forever. 1379 01:19:53,266 --> 01:19:54,746 But two, I think it tells you 1380 01:19:54,790 --> 01:19:56,356 something about Barack Obama. 1381 01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:59,098 That, at the behest of a five-year-old kid, 1382 01:19:59,142 --> 01:20:00,578 you would go ahead, bend over 1383 01:20:00,621 --> 01:20:03,363 and let that kid touch your head like that. 1384 01:20:10,240 --> 01:20:13,765 The fact that Pete succeeded in offering 1385 01:20:13,809 --> 01:20:18,726 a window into the man that was occupying the office 1386 01:20:18,770 --> 01:20:21,642 to show what the office can be, what it has been, 1387 01:20:21,686 --> 01:20:24,863 what it can be again, to show the... 1388 01:20:24,907 --> 01:20:27,823 the kind of integrity of purpose, 1389 01:20:27,866 --> 01:20:31,348 I think that's inspiring. 1390 01:20:31,391 --> 01:20:33,393 The presidency is about 1391 01:20:33,437 --> 01:20:36,396 a lot more than even just policy. 1392 01:20:36,440 --> 01:20:39,704 There's something intangible about that office. 1393 01:20:39,747 --> 01:20:42,402 What do people remember about the Obamas? 1394 01:20:42,446 --> 01:20:43,882 You know, they remember the marriage 1395 01:20:43,926 --> 01:20:45,579 between Barack and Michelle Obama. 1396 01:20:45,623 --> 01:20:48,626 They remember a certain speech he gave. 1397 01:20:48,669 --> 01:20:51,455 They remember how the rooms 1398 01:20:51,498 --> 01:20:53,500 that used to be only full of white men 1399 01:20:53,544 --> 01:20:58,766 are suddenly full of people of different races and genders. 1400 01:20:58,810 --> 01:21:01,117 That's what they take away from the Obama presidency. 1401 01:21:01,160 --> 01:21:03,771 And frankly, that's going to have a lasting impact 1402 01:21:03,815 --> 01:21:06,774 on this country and on... on the world. 1403 01:21:06,818 --> 01:21:10,778 I think Obama understood that the-the images of him 1404 01:21:10,822 --> 01:21:12,258 not only being president 1405 01:21:12,302 --> 01:21:14,521 but being president in a certain way, 1406 01:21:14,565 --> 01:21:16,610 that could change attitudes. 1407 01:21:23,313 --> 01:21:26,272 It did, I think, change perspectives 1408 01:21:26,316 --> 01:21:29,667 on what is possible and-and what is achievable 1409 01:21:29,710 --> 01:21:33,149 for people of color in this country. 1410 01:21:33,192 --> 01:21:36,761 But it also woke this, you know, 1411 01:21:36,804 --> 01:21:40,634 constantly present, ugly, 1412 01:21:40,678 --> 01:21:43,159 horrific racism. 1413 01:21:48,642 --> 01:21:50,296 When I first met Pete, 1414 01:21:50,340 --> 01:21:53,560 his politics were not at all evident. 1415 01:21:53,604 --> 01:21:57,521 You know, I always wondered, what did Pete Souza get 1416 01:21:57,564 --> 01:21:59,523 from President Obama? 1417 01:21:59,566 --> 01:22:01,351 Like, how did he change 1418 01:22:01,394 --> 01:22:04,484 because he spent so much time with President Obama? 1419 01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:10,534 The political concern-- you know, the-the feeling 1420 01:22:10,577 --> 01:22:14,625 that you have to care and make a difference. 1421 01:22:14,668 --> 01:22:16,932 You can make a difference. 1422 01:22:18,368 --> 01:22:21,762 He could no longer be this fly on the wall. 1423 01:22:21,806 --> 01:22:23,590 And I would see these moments 1424 01:22:23,634 --> 01:22:27,507 where Pete became furious for President Obama. 1425 01:22:27,551 --> 01:22:30,684 The way in which Pete has been most changed 1426 01:22:30,728 --> 01:22:33,383 is by becoming a vocal political person 1427 01:22:33,426 --> 01:22:36,429 because of President Obama. 1428 01:22:37,909 --> 01:22:39,693 Set the refugees free! 1429 01:22:39,737 --> 01:22:41,608 Set the refugees free! 1430 01:22:41,652 --> 01:22:44,698 Hundreds swarmed the arrivals terminal at SFO today. 1431 01:22:44,742 --> 01:22:46,831 Citizens who are in shock at the speed of which 1432 01:22:46,874 --> 01:22:49,355 President Trump's executive orders are turning into action. 1433 01:22:53,838 --> 01:22:56,493 Pete Souza is a very unlikely 1434 01:22:56,536 --> 01:22:59,844 Instagram superstar, attracting millions of followers 1435 01:22:59,887 --> 01:23:01,889 after he started replying to President Trump's tweets 1436 01:23:01,933 --> 01:23:04,631 by posting Obama White House photos, 1437 01:23:04,675 --> 01:23:07,547 along with snarky captions. 1438 01:23:07,591 --> 01:23:10,289 He is President Obama's former chief photographer, 1439 01:23:10,333 --> 01:23:14,598 whose Instagram is now full of pics showing glaring contrast 1440 01:23:14,641 --> 01:23:17,644 in how the two presidents handled certain situations. 1441 01:23:17,688 --> 01:23:20,604 It's earned him the moniker "the King of Shade." 1442 01:23:29,961 --> 01:23:32,442 Do you have a picture for every single thing 1443 01:23:32,485 --> 01:23:35,314 that Donald Trump has lied about with Barack Obama? 1444 01:23:35,358 --> 01:23:37,055 -Pretty much. Pretty much, yeah.- 1445 01:23:37,099 --> 01:23:39,057 How much joy do you get when you do it? 1446 01:23:39,101 --> 01:23:40,928 Uh, I get a lot of joy, actually. 1447 01:23:40,972 --> 01:23:42,843 -Like, do you giggle? 1448 01:23:42,887 --> 01:23:44,454 I-I picture you sitting at home, 1449 01:23:44,497 --> 01:23:46,369 like, giggling, working on your laptop. 1450 01:23:46,412 --> 01:23:48,762 Uh, yeah, my-my wife said she didn't know I was that funny. 1451 01:23:48,806 --> 01:23:50,677 And I said, "You just haven't been paying attention." 1452 01:23:53,245 --> 01:23:55,421 When I first started out, 1453 01:23:55,465 --> 01:23:59,077 I was trying to be humorous in my comments. 1454 01:23:59,121 --> 01:24:01,079 You know, I had all these reporters 1455 01:24:01,123 --> 01:24:02,602 wanting to interview me 1456 01:24:02,646 --> 01:24:04,430 about what I was doing on Instagram, 1457 01:24:04,474 --> 01:24:06,084 and I would not respond. 1458 01:24:06,128 --> 01:24:08,347 Just say, "It speaks for itself." 1459 01:24:08,391 --> 01:24:09,827 In the words of some younger people, 1460 01:24:09,870 --> 01:24:12,569 they say you troll President Trump. Why? 1461 01:24:12,612 --> 01:24:15,789 The photographs that I post on Instagram now 1462 01:24:15,833 --> 01:24:19,576 and the-the words that I write, I think, speak for themselves. 1463 01:24:19,619 --> 01:24:22,622 And I think I've gotten more and more out there 1464 01:24:22,666 --> 01:24:28,454 in terms of making it pretty damn clear how I feel. 1465 01:24:50,172 --> 01:24:52,565 There are also a lot of questions about the phone call 1466 01:24:52,609 --> 01:24:54,698 you received from President Trump. 1467 01:24:54,741 --> 01:24:56,613 -What he said was... -The president? 1468 01:24:56,656 --> 01:24:58,136 Yes, the president. 1469 01:24:58,180 --> 01:25:01,705 Said that he knew what he signed up for 1470 01:25:01,748 --> 01:25:03,881 but it hurts anyways. 1471 01:25:03,924 --> 01:25:07,058 He couldn't remember my husband name. 1472 01:25:07,102 --> 01:25:09,887 If my husband risked his life for our country, 1473 01:25:09,930 --> 01:25:12,411 why can't you remember his name? 1474 01:25:19,679 --> 01:25:21,725 You know, since leaving the White House, 1475 01:25:21,768 --> 01:25:24,684 I made this conscious decision 1476 01:25:24,728 --> 01:25:25,946 that I couldn't not say anything, 1477 01:25:25,990 --> 01:25:28,645 that I couldn't not speak out. 1478 01:25:30,734 --> 01:25:35,782 It was all about the dignityof the office of the presidency. 1479 01:25:35,826 --> 01:25:37,480 Especially for young people, 1480 01:25:37,523 --> 01:25:39,177 what I didn't want them to think-- 1481 01:25:39,221 --> 01:25:43,834 this is the way a president is supposed to behave. 1482 01:25:43,877 --> 01:25:45,401 No, it's not. 1483 01:25:46,489 --> 01:25:50,188 Pete bore witness to an ethical, 1484 01:25:50,232 --> 01:25:53,670 decent, not perfect, 1485 01:25:53,713 --> 01:25:57,064 certainly fallible, law-abiding, 1486 01:25:57,108 --> 01:26:02,635 humane presidency for eight years. 1487 01:26:02,679 --> 01:26:06,073 And my hunch, when I saw Pete 1488 01:26:06,117 --> 01:26:09,076 draw devastating contrasts 1489 01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:12,732 between what was and what is, 1490 01:26:12,776 --> 01:26:16,736 was he just felt he had no choice. 1491 01:26:16,780 --> 01:26:20,871 Whatever instinct that Pete may have had 1492 01:26:20,914 --> 01:26:24,701 to remain behind the scenes 1493 01:26:24,744 --> 01:26:28,095 seems to have been obliterated 1494 01:26:28,139 --> 01:26:32,926 by the harm that President Trump was doing 1495 01:26:32,970 --> 01:26:37,496 and the urgency to call that out, 1496 01:26:37,540 --> 01:26:39,933 to mobilize people. 1497 01:26:39,977 --> 01:26:41,848 This was a 911. 1498 01:26:44,155 --> 01:26:46,113 He got progressively worse. 1499 01:26:46,157 --> 01:26:48,942 I just thought it was dangerous. 1500 01:26:48,986 --> 01:26:51,249 So, I think, over time, yeah, 1501 01:26:51,293 --> 01:26:53,730 my Instagram posts got more pointed. 1502 01:26:53,773 --> 01:26:58,038 I thought that Trump had just gone way too far, 1503 01:26:58,082 --> 01:27:01,825 and I said, "Okay, I want to do this book, 'Shade.'" 1504 01:27:02,826 --> 01:27:05,611 Trump tweet on one page, 1505 01:27:05,655 --> 01:27:07,831 my response on the other. 1506 01:27:09,136 --> 01:27:13,140 Obama: An Intimate Portrait, which is a coffee table book 1507 01:27:13,184 --> 01:27:16,970 based on the eight years of the Obama presidency, 1508 01:27:17,014 --> 01:27:19,973 will hopefully last a lifetime. 1509 01:27:20,017 --> 01:27:24,848 The Shadebook, hopefully, will outlive its uselessness 1510 01:27:24,891 --> 01:27:29,983 on January 20, 2021. 1511 01:27:30,027 --> 01:27:32,769 -Peter Souza. Hey, baby. 1512 01:27:32,812 --> 01:27:34,553 Pete Souza. 1513 01:27:36,207 --> 01:27:38,601 I wasn't surprised to see him 1514 01:27:38,644 --> 01:27:40,864 hit this nerve on social media. 1515 01:27:40,907 --> 01:27:43,170 I was surprised to see him, like, 1516 01:27:43,214 --> 01:27:46,783 on a television show talking, you know? 1517 01:27:46,826 --> 01:27:48,611 You know, he's a behind-the-scenes guy. 1518 01:27:48,654 --> 01:27:52,310 And I think it spoke to just how offended he was 1519 01:27:52,354 --> 01:27:54,007 by the new reality 1520 01:27:54,051 --> 01:27:57,663 and how he felt compelled to speak up. 1521 01:27:57,707 --> 01:27:59,665 So, we usually don't see this from 1522 01:27:59,709 --> 01:28:01,276 -a White House photographer... -No. 1523 01:28:01,319 --> 01:28:03,669 ...who has that fly-on-the-wall quality to him or to her. 1524 01:28:03,713 --> 01:28:06,063 What made you want to step out and-and make this stand? 1525 01:28:06,106 --> 01:28:07,804 Well, I think this guy disrespects 1526 01:28:07,847 --> 01:28:09,806 the office of the presidency. 1527 01:28:09,849 --> 01:28:11,286 I mean, it's as simple as that. 1528 01:28:11,329 --> 01:28:13,679 I always thought of you as fairly apolitical. 1529 01:28:13,723 --> 01:28:15,290 So, what is it about this moment 1530 01:28:15,333 --> 01:28:17,901 and this president that has... that has changed you? 1531 01:28:17,944 --> 01:28:19,903 He bullies people. He lies. 1532 01:28:20,773 --> 01:28:24,037 He calls you guys the, uh, enemy of the people. 1533 01:28:24,081 --> 01:28:27,345 He doesn't believe our own intelligence agencies. 1534 01:28:27,389 --> 01:28:29,086 There's just too many things. 1535 01:28:29,129 --> 01:28:31,871 I'm trying to make an argument 1536 01:28:31,915 --> 01:28:34,221 that this is not who we are. 1537 01:28:34,265 --> 01:28:36,876 That this president really doesn't speak for us 1538 01:28:36,920 --> 01:28:40,053 as Americans, what it means to be an American. 1539 01:28:40,097 --> 01:28:41,968 Believe me, he gets lots of hate mail, 1540 01:28:42,012 --> 01:28:44,754 'cause I get a lot of them on his behalf. 1541 01:28:44,797 --> 01:28:47,278 He's not loved by everyone, for sure. 1542 01:28:49,672 --> 01:28:53,197 But for the people who feel strongly, as he does, 1543 01:28:53,240 --> 01:28:55,068 they see him as almost a leader 1544 01:28:55,112 --> 01:28:57,332 to help them get that message across 1545 01:28:57,375 --> 01:29:00,073 and to help make some change in this country right now. 1546 01:29:00,117 --> 01:29:02,249 -How are you? -It's so good to see you. 1547 01:29:02,293 --> 01:29:03,773 -Congratulations to you. -Thank you. You, too. 1548 01:29:03,816 --> 01:29:05,209 -My God, you're kicking ass. -Huh? 1549 01:29:05,252 --> 01:29:06,384 -How you doing? -I'm doing good. 1550 01:29:06,428 --> 01:29:07,777 -How about you? -I'm good. 1551 01:29:07,820 --> 01:29:09,648 -I love the book. -Thank you. 1552 01:29:09,692 --> 01:29:11,998 I was... I saw POTUS today. 1553 01:29:12,042 --> 01:29:14,740 And one of the things that I was telling him was 1554 01:29:14,784 --> 01:29:16,742 -you can tell stories now... -Mm-hmm. 1555 01:29:16,786 --> 01:29:19,397 ...and in context, they make complete sense. 1556 01:29:19,441 --> 01:29:23,270 Like, you couldn't have defended yourself 1557 01:29:23,314 --> 01:29:26,752 the way you did-- about Benghazi, for instance-- 1558 01:29:26,796 --> 01:29:28,275 -while you're at... -No. 1559 01:29:28,319 --> 01:29:30,669 And yet, I had no choice 'cause I was, 1560 01:29:30,713 --> 01:29:32,279 you know, speaking on behalf of the government 1561 01:29:32,323 --> 01:29:34,151 and on behalf of the president. 1562 01:29:34,194 --> 01:29:36,762 Uh, and that was, you know, what I wanted to do 1563 01:29:36,806 --> 01:29:38,764 and what I committed to do at the time. 1564 01:29:38,808 --> 01:29:40,940 But that meant that, in that period, 1565 01:29:40,984 --> 01:29:43,029 I didn't have my own voice. 1566 01:29:44,117 --> 01:29:45,771 I'm a journalist who wishes 1567 01:29:45,815 --> 01:29:48,078 I could give my opinion once in a while. 1568 01:29:48,121 --> 01:29:51,951 I'm wondering, as the White House official photographer, 1569 01:29:51,995 --> 01:29:55,781 did you have to wait for a certain time to throw shade? 1570 01:29:55,825 --> 01:29:57,740 Yeah, I would never have done it, 1571 01:29:57,783 --> 01:30:00,656 uh, during his presiden... I would never have done it 1572 01:30:00,699 --> 01:30:05,269 if, you know, Jeb Bush or John Kasich or... 1573 01:30:05,312 --> 01:30:08,968 Um, look, this is... this is not a partisan thing to me. 1574 01:30:09,012 --> 01:30:14,844 This is somebody that I feel is not a good person, 1575 01:30:14,887 --> 01:30:17,455 doesn't respect the office of the presidency, 1576 01:30:17,499 --> 01:30:21,154 thinks about himself and not other people, 1577 01:30:21,198 --> 01:30:22,895 lies to us. 1578 01:30:22,939 --> 01:30:27,813 So, it-it became something that I felt I had to do. 1579 01:30:27,857 --> 01:30:29,380 I don't think, uh, 1580 01:30:29,424 --> 01:30:32,470 a photojournalist is supposed to be opinionated. 1581 01:30:32,514 --> 01:30:34,690 I'm now opinionated. 1582 01:30:35,517 --> 01:30:37,475 I, in some ways, 1583 01:30:37,519 --> 01:30:41,392 have ruined any chance that I have 1584 01:30:41,436 --> 01:30:45,483 of being a working photojournalist again. 1585 01:30:45,527 --> 01:30:48,355 But to me, that's a small price to pay 1586 01:30:48,399 --> 01:30:51,750 for doing what I think is the right thing. 1587 01:30:53,273 --> 01:30:55,319 Pete and I probably-- and I've never talked about this-- 1588 01:30:55,362 --> 01:30:57,060 feel a similar sense of obligation-- 1589 01:30:57,103 --> 01:30:59,105 and so do a bunch of our other former colleagues-- 1590 01:30:59,149 --> 01:31:00,977 to... to fight these battles 1591 01:31:01,020 --> 01:31:02,979 because we don't want Obama to do it. 1592 01:31:03,022 --> 01:31:05,198 You know, or, you know, he shouldn't do it. 1593 01:31:05,242 --> 01:31:07,897 His voice is too important to be trivialized 1594 01:31:07,940 --> 01:31:11,248 by having to respond to tweets, you know? 1595 01:31:12,205 --> 01:31:15,295 I've never been overtly political, 1596 01:31:15,339 --> 01:31:17,994 and now I am political. 1597 01:31:18,037 --> 01:31:20,953 I want to make sure everybody knows 1598 01:31:20,997 --> 01:31:25,262 that what this guy is doing is not only not normal, 1599 01:31:25,305 --> 01:31:28,526 but it's really dangerous to the country. 1600 01:31:28,570 --> 01:31:32,922 This is a serious job, being the president. 1601 01:31:32,965 --> 01:31:35,272 I'm gonna do everything I can 1602 01:31:35,315 --> 01:31:37,796 to make sure people don't forget that. 1603 01:31:42,279 --> 01:31:44,890 President Obama invited the president-elect 1604 01:31:44,934 --> 01:31:47,763 just two days after the electionto the White House. 1605 01:31:47,806 --> 01:31:50,156 It was a surreal day. 1606 01:31:50,200 --> 01:31:54,073 And it just so happens by sheer coincidence 1607 01:31:54,117 --> 01:31:57,773 that another meeting had been scheduled that day, 1608 01:31:57,816 --> 01:32:02,038 uh, with a young boy, Alex Myteberi. 1609 01:32:02,081 --> 01:32:06,346 Alex had written a letter to President Obama 1610 01:32:06,390 --> 01:32:08,784 that he was so taken with 1611 01:32:08,827 --> 01:32:14,572 that he read excerpts of it at his U.N. speech that year. 1612 01:32:14,616 --> 01:32:16,269 I can still remember it, 1613 01:32:16,313 --> 01:32:18,445 seeing Omran in the ambulance, 1614 01:32:18,489 --> 01:32:21,927 face covered in blood and ash and dust. 1615 01:32:21,971 --> 01:32:25,017 It looks horrific to you that someone your age, 1616 01:32:25,061 --> 01:32:27,977 like, younger than me-- Omran was a year younger than me-- 1617 01:32:28,020 --> 01:32:30,327 being hurt in an ambulance in another country 1618 01:32:30,370 --> 01:32:33,460 while I'm just sitting around at my grandma's watching TV. 1619 01:32:34,940 --> 01:32:36,072 For days and days, 1620 01:32:36,115 --> 01:32:37,552 he wanted to ask about Omran. 1621 01:32:37,595 --> 01:32:39,989 "Show me Syria. Where is Aleppo?" 1622 01:32:40,032 --> 01:32:43,035 First, he wanted to send a letter to Omran. 1623 01:32:43,079 --> 01:32:45,429 And when I told him,"Well, I don't have his address, 1624 01:32:45,472 --> 01:32:47,300 so I don't think he's gonna get it," 1625 01:32:47,344 --> 01:32:50,303 that's when he decided to write to the president. 1626 01:32:50,347 --> 01:32:52,305 My thought was, "Okay, here goes the Santa Claus letter." 1627 01:32:52,349 --> 01:32:55,221 You know, that's the idea-- you just write it... 1628 01:32:55,265 --> 01:32:58,964 -Doing something. -...you drop it, then that's the end of it. 1629 01:32:59,008 --> 01:33:01,358 -Little did we know. 1630 01:33:01,401 --> 01:33:06,581 He said he wanted Omran to come live with him and his family. 1631 01:33:06,624 --> 01:33:09,322 "Since he won't bring toys," Alex wrote, 1632 01:33:09,366 --> 01:33:12,238 "I will share my bike, and I will teach him how to ride it." 1633 01:33:14,545 --> 01:33:17,940 "We will give him a family, and he will be our brother." 1634 01:33:19,376 --> 01:33:21,944 Those are the words of a six-year-old boy. 1635 01:33:23,336 --> 01:33:24,642 It's so nice to meet you. 1636 01:33:24,686 --> 01:33:26,644 -How have you been? -Good. 1637 01:33:26,688 --> 01:33:28,167 You look very nice in your suit. 1638 01:33:28,211 --> 01:33:29,342 -Thank you. -Is that a new suit? 1639 01:33:29,386 --> 01:33:30,517 -Mm-hmm. -I thought so. 1640 01:33:32,345 --> 01:33:35,914 You being so... so nice and kind 1641 01:33:35,958 --> 01:33:39,004 hopefully makes other people think the same way. 1642 01:33:39,048 --> 01:33:42,181 So, I was very proud of you. Hmm. 1643 01:33:43,226 --> 01:33:45,010 This picture was made 1644 01:33:45,054 --> 01:33:49,014 22 minutes after Trump had left. 1645 01:33:49,058 --> 01:33:53,192 This six-year-old kid, the son of two immigrants, 1646 01:33:53,236 --> 01:33:56,326 showed more compassion, 1647 01:33:56,369 --> 01:34:00,678 more empathy, more understanding, 1648 01:34:00,722 --> 01:34:04,551 and knows more about what it means to be an American 1649 01:34:04,595 --> 01:34:06,641 than our current president. 1650 01:34:37,454 --> 01:34:39,674 This is something that we take very seriously. 1651 01:34:39,717 --> 01:34:41,719 Uh, as soon as there is an outbreak 1652 01:34:41,763 --> 01:34:43,678 anywhere in the world of any disease, 1653 01:34:43,721 --> 01:34:46,593 the CDC, uh, is in communication 1654 01:34:46,637 --> 01:34:48,508 with the World Health Organization, 1655 01:34:48,552 --> 01:34:50,989 uh, and other multilateral agencies 1656 01:34:51,033 --> 01:34:54,993 to try to make sure that we've got an appropriate response. 1657 01:34:57,256 --> 01:35:00,346 Having watched President Obama, 1658 01:35:00,390 --> 01:35:04,002 based on the way he handled the H1N1 epidemic, 1659 01:35:04,046 --> 01:35:07,353 and the Ebola crisis in 2014-- 1660 01:35:07,397 --> 01:35:10,008 I mean, if he had been president now, 1661 01:35:10,052 --> 01:35:12,054 he would have been facing this virus, too. 1662 01:35:12,097 --> 01:35:13,533 He couldn't have stopped it. 1663 01:35:13,577 --> 01:35:18,756 But he would have listened to the science early on. 1664 01:35:18,800 --> 01:35:23,065 It's really on Trump for not having a nationwide shutdown. 1665 01:35:24,283 --> 01:35:26,111 Put it in perspective. 1666 01:35:26,155 --> 01:35:30,246 This is 40 9/11s. 1667 01:35:30,289 --> 01:35:32,422 40 9/11s. 1668 01:35:32,465 --> 01:35:34,772 That's how many people have died. 1669 01:35:56,751 --> 01:35:59,754 I view everything now through the lens of the presidency. 1670 01:36:01,712 --> 01:36:04,193 I think one thing that's changed 1671 01:36:04,236 --> 01:36:07,196 is that the vast majority of the country 1672 01:36:07,239 --> 01:36:11,504 now realizes that having a competent, honest person 1673 01:36:11,548 --> 01:36:14,725 in the presidency really does matter. 1674 01:36:18,424 --> 01:36:20,165 I want to speak directly 1675 01:36:20,209 --> 01:36:22,472 to the young men and women of color in this country. 1676 01:36:22,515 --> 01:36:24,169 I want you to know that you matter. 1677 01:36:24,213 --> 01:36:26,476 I want you to know that your lives matter. 1678 01:36:26,519 --> 01:36:28,347 You have the power to make things better, 1679 01:36:28,391 --> 01:36:32,525 and you have helped to make the entire country feel, 1680 01:36:32,569 --> 01:36:36,312 uh, as if this is something that's got to change. 1681 01:37:41,203 --> 01:37:42,682 America's always been 1682 01:37:42,726 --> 01:37:45,294 two stories battling each other. 1683 01:37:45,337 --> 01:37:48,601 You know, the progressive, inclusive story 1684 01:37:48,645 --> 01:37:52,779 of-of people getting more rightsand more people being allowed 1685 01:37:52,823 --> 01:37:54,912 the promise of citizenship and opportunity 1686 01:37:54,956 --> 01:37:57,262 and struggling to overcome things 1687 01:37:57,306 --> 01:38:00,265 versus people who don't want to give up power, you know? 1688 01:38:01,179 --> 01:38:03,181 And if you just stacked up the images 1689 01:38:03,225 --> 01:38:05,270 of the Obama presidency and the Trump presidency, 1690 01:38:05,314 --> 01:38:07,794 you would see the two stories of America 1691 01:38:07,838 --> 01:38:11,363 in the starkest possible contrast. 1692 01:38:11,407 --> 01:38:13,496 And I think that's why Pete's images 1693 01:38:13,539 --> 01:38:15,585 have triggered such emotion in people-- 1694 01:38:15,628 --> 01:38:17,892 'cause it's like, no, that's my America. 1695 01:38:17,935 --> 01:38:20,372 My America is in these pictures. 1696 01:38:29,425 --> 01:38:32,297 -Yes, we did. Yes, we can. 1697 01:38:34,691 --> 01:38:37,476 Thank you. God bless you. 132835

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