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[ Street Noises ]

- [ Horn Honking ]
- [ Chattering ]

[ Horn Honks Twice ]

[ Knocking In Rhythm ]

[ Knocks In Rhythm ]
[ Laughs ]

What's--

[ Laughing ]

Where have you been?

You look so cute
in that box.
I'm so hot in here.

Come on. We're supposed to
be doing an interview.

I brought
my air-conditioned box...

'cause I didn't know
how long you'd be.

How handsome.
Bill in a box.
You could market it.

How are you?
Just add water.

Which we've done.
Oh, boy, sweetheart.

Oh, I am so hot
just waiting for you.

[ Laughs ]
What does that mean?
That's what they all say.

Kate Mulgrew.
Where to begin?

Kate is a thoroughbred.

She comes on.
She's one of the
most professional actresses...

that I've ever worked with.

She is a real force.

I'd be sitting in my trailer.
Kate Mulgrew would walk up--

Bang, bang, bang!
"Robbie, what are you doing?

Come on.
We got to get to work.
Let's go, go, go!"

She was extraordinary.

I'm William Shatner,

and this is
The Captains Close Up
with Kate Mulgrew.

But I love to work
on this stage.
It's great.

The stage is good.
This is lovely, isn't it?

How many seats do you think?
I don't know. The capacity
looks to be about 125.

That's all?
Oh, but how do you
make money with 125 seats?

It's not about money.
[ Laughs ]

[ Shatner ]
Audiences may know Kate best..

from her memorable portrayal
of Captain Kathryn Janeway...

of the starship Voyager.

But her real passion
begins and ends in the theate,

where we'll find out more
about the force...

that is Katherine
Kiernan Maria Mulgrew.

So you gave a reading.

Yeah.
What's--

Why?

You've put my hand
to the fire now,
aren't you, Bill?

Because this theater
is famous for that.

It supports new plays,
new playwrights.

We did it upstairs
to a very glum,

if not altogether
bleak, audience.

A glum and bleak audience
listening to you read?

They did not
respond to this.
Yes, yes.

- What do you mean upstairs?
- Upstairs is where you do
some of the readings.

This is the theater itself.
This is the theater proper.

It's very avant-garde
down here, Bill.

What does that mean?
I know what "avant-garde" means.

It means that none
of the traditional rules
apply here.

They're trying
to break them, in fact,
and create their own.

It's famous for that.

Some of the stuff that comes
out of here is pretty wild
and pretty magnificent.

Kate, who are you?

If I could answer that question,
I don't think I'd be
sitting here opposite you.

That's funny.
I'd be on a mountaintop
in Tibet.

Well, wait a minute.
You're a mother.

I'm a mother.
I'm a sister.

I was a daughter--
a devoted one,
if I may so myself.

I love to laugh.
I love to read.
I love to travel.

Although one can't keep up
with the likes of you.

You like to cook?
Love to cook.

What do you cook?
Unparalleled
fried chicken.

- Unparalleled--
- And the trick is lard,
corn oil and butter.

Then you know
what my friend did?
What?

Took the skin off the chicken.
That's the worst thing
you could possibly do.

I said, "What are you doing?
Why don't you just slap me?"
Right. Or put ketchup on it.

Oh. Don't say that.
A lot of people
love ketchup.

I can't stand it
when people put ketchup
on a steak or a chicken.

[ Chuckles ] Stop.
Or they don't know
anything about it.

Don't you make
a discrimination...

about a person
who destroys your handiwork?

Don't you say,
"Well, that's not too cool.
I don't like that"?

I say that
about my acting.

I've been acting
for over 35 years.

If that is erroneously
or wrongly criticized,

if the wrong condiments
are poured on that,

I really resent it.

- What do you do
when you get bad reviews?
- I'm devastated.

- Are you? Really?
- Oh, yeah. Devastated.

I react badly to criticism.

All actors do.

We're insecure
about that, aren't we?
What about Olivier?

There was Olivier,
at the height of his career,

absolutely frozen to the point
where he couldn't go back
onstage for five years.

What was he thinking
about himself?

If I can hazard this--
and I don't mean it...

in a-- in a, uh--
a critical or harsh sense--

He was only thinking
about himself.

Who gives a damn
if I fail or succeed?

It doesn't matter.
We're all gonna die.

It's when you put
that much importance
in who you are.

- It doesn't matter.
- So wait.

You don't put
that importance on yourself?
I don't think so.

Let me be honest. It's changed.
It was more important
when I was a young actress.

I've evolved. I hope
I've matured a little bit.

It's not as important
as it once was.

But I've taken my moments.
I've had my babies.

Well, you got
married and stopped.
You were a housewife for years.

I was not
a housewife for years.
Shame on you.

- I don't mean that
as a derogatory--
- I never was a housewife.

What are you talking about?
You were a cook, a mother,

a lover, a wife.
Yes. Yes.

You were a politician.
But I worked
throughout it.

I was the breadwinner.

[ Girl ] My question is--
What made you wanna be
an actor in the first place?

What's your name?
Arianna.

Arianna, how old are you?
Eleven.

Eleven.
Well, I'm gonna tell you
a little story, Arianna,

because I was gonna guess
that you were about 11.
[ All Laughing ]

[ Mulgrew ]
At 11, in my little
Catholic school,

the nun said to me,
"Katie Mulgrew, you write
wonderful poetry,

but I think what you should do
is get up in front
of the school...

and recite the poems
that you have written."

So I went home,
and I said to my mother,

"Mother, Sister Benedict thinks
I'm writing beautiful poetry.

She wants me to recite it
to the school."

My mother said, "This poetry?
This poetry is dreck."
[ Audience Laughs ]

"I'm gonna give you a poem
called 'The White Cliffs'
by Alice Duer Miller...

about a love affair
in World War I."

I was 11.
This is my mother.

My mother, smoking,
glass of wine--

"All right, kitten, go on.
Go on. I'm listening."
[ Inhales, Exhales ]

"'The White Cliffs of Dover'
by Alice Duer Miller.

I have loved England,
dearly and deeply,

Since that first morning,
shining and pure,

The white cliffs of Dover,
I saw--"

She said,
"You're not gonna be a poet.
You're gonna be an actress."

[ Applause ]

[ Woman ]
Whatever Kate wanted to do,
she was gonna do it.

There just was no ifs
or ands or buts about it.

I remember very early Katie
announcing to the family...

that she was interested
in becoming an actress,

and my mother instructed her
to get a dictionary.

And my mother told her
to open the dictionary
to the word "discipline."

My mother said to Katie,
"Once that definition
becomes meaningful to you,

then you have a chance
of being an actress."

[ Man ]
The thing
I remember about her...

was she had that great diction
and that great interpretive read
on everything she did.

[ Mulgrew ]
"Of course I feel badly
for Jack.

But he was just
an acquaintance, not a lover
or anything like that.

I like older men anyway.
How old are you, Mr. Coate?"

[ Shatner ]
By age 17,

Katie packed up
and left the family farm
in Dubuque, Iowa...

and headed to the Big Apple,
where she studied
at New York University...

and at the Stella Adler
Studio of Acting.

It didn't take long
for young Kate to land
her first big television role...

as the strong-willed Mary Ryan
in the ABC daytime soap opera
Ryan's Hope.

At the same time,
Kate could also be found...

on the theater stage,
portraying Emily...

in the American Shakespeare
Theater production
of Our Town.

At the age of 23,
Kate was lured to Los Angeles...

by NBC's president,
Fred Silverman,

who cast her as the lead
in Mrs. Columbo...

and then
in Kate Loves a Mystery.

Although neither show
was a huge success, Kate was,

and would continue starring
and guest starring...

in a variety of television,
theater and film productions
over the next several years.

But in 1995,
Kate would get a call...

to audition
for a new television series...

that would ultimately
reshape her career and her life.

[ Mulgrew ]
I thought Star Trek
was a little bit of a joke...

before I was hired
to play Captain Janeway.

I remember I was
at a wedding once and somebody
said, "That's Patrick Stewart."

I said, "Who's
Patrick Stewart?" He said,
"The Star Trek captain."

I said, "Star Trek.
Isn't that a cartoon?"
"No, it's a series."

So when it came about for me,
I was very relaxed
in the audition...

'cause I thought
it was nothing.

This is nothing.
It's just--

And then it, of course,
changed my life.

But from the very moment
I stepped on that bridge,

I thought,
"You better be excellent."

We got word
that Kate Mulgrew was cast.

And from the moment
she stepped on the bridge,
we could all relax,

because Kate
is a natural leader.

We had an actress
who wanted to be there,

was immaculately prepared
every day.

Just has a, um,
a take-charge element
in her personality.

I'm reay easy
to get along with
most of the time.

But I don't like bullies,
and I don't like threats,

and I don't like you, Cullah.

You can try and stop us
from getting to the truth,

but I promise you,
if you do,

I will respond with all
the unique technologies
at my command.

Janeway out.

Captain Janeway
is a wonderful creation.
Yeah.

And exemplifies
much of what you do.
Absolutely.

I've never once
been embarrassed
by any aspect of her.

And I've never had
that relationship with
the fans that you've had.

To me,
they're direct reflection
of my work and my credibility.

So I really have great--
great respect for them.

They edify me, you know.
It-It works both ways.

There's a very
delicate balance of actors
that work well in Star Trek...

that have sort of--
a bit of a theatrical quality.

I think there's a reason
that so many people
in Star Trek...

come from the theater world,

and I think
it's because that's
where the best training is.

[ Man ]
She's a very accomplished
stage actress herself.

She's naturally predisposed
to like other theater actors.

There's a chemistry
and a perfect combination...

that Patrick Stewart had,
that Bill Shatner had.

It takes a discipline
that most actors that just
do film do not understand.

All of them, you know,
I think, have had--

And when it's worked well--

And Kate had all those things.
She had all of them.

I also am a stickler
for knowing my lines perfectly.

But you see me between takes...

going like this, you know,
and putting my glasses on
and reviewing my lines.

She never needed to do that.

So I don't quite know
how she did it.

But no matter how late
she got out the night before,

she came the next day
knowing the day's work.

Star Trek requires
iron constitutions,
which we all have.

We are built like steel.

I mean, I stood on my feet
18 hours a day.

And people think
that we're having
these lovely breaks.

It's 18 hours.

You're lucky to go
to the john, right?

You get 20 minutes
for lunch, and that's it.
Exactly right.

I learned that
I can work
without pause...

for almost
seven and a half years
at a very high level.

[ Dawson ]
The first time I met Kate...

was walking
from the makeup trailer
to the soundstage.

And she was about to do
her final test for the captain.

I thought it odd that we
would be testing a captain
when we already had a captain.

That's when
I kind of was realizing that
there was something going on.

Before Kate was hired,
we had another captain--

Geneviève Bujold.

Who was Janeway
for a period of two days,
and then she quit.

[ Shatner ]
And is a distinguished
Canadian actress...

who had done marvelous work
both in Canada
and in the United States.

And she was there two days,
and the story I heard was--

Not quite.
She was there
a day and a half.

- About a day. Yeah.
- About a day.

And she said to the producer,
"I cannot endure this
one moment longer."

[ French Accent ]
"But surely you're kidding.

I mean, I can't do--
Who works like this
is insane, for 18 hours.

I have a young son.
I have a life."

And she left.
She left.

This is an examined woman
who knew this was not
for her.

And saved everyone
the agony,
the money, the time,

the terrible complications
of having staggered through
of another couple of weeks...

and making it
really impossible.
But I have never heard--

Yeah.
Excuse me.

- Anybody walk like that?
- That's right.

I think-- I don't know--
that it was just clear to her,

after a day, no.

Seven years of this.
'Cause it's a seven-year deal.

What was she doing
the day before?
Wasn't she learning it?

I think
that Geneviève Bujold...

is a great artist
of the other school.

- More delicate.
- I don't know more delicate.

But she's used to shooting
two pages a day.

I think she was thinking
that there would be time
to rehearse it on the set.

They didn't say you got
to appear at 6:00 and, uh,

we don't know
when you'll quit.
I had no idea, Bill.

- Maybe you were apprised.
- Well, of course.

I was
shot out of a cannon.

[ Man ]
I saw Geneviève Bujold once.

She passed by me,
and her eyes were glazed,
and she was like--

I said, "Hi, Geneviève,
and she was like, "Hi."

Um, I think--
I think she realized...

she probably didn't
wanna be there.

The scene that Geneviève left
was the scene that Voyager
takes away from Deep Space Nine.

And Captain Janeway
walks around, sits on the chair,

and she looks at the camera,
and she goes, "Engage."

The way
Geneviève Bujold did it--
She sat down on the chair,

closed her eyes
and said, "Engage."

She whispered it, at which point
everyone on the set, the crew,
were freaking out.

"Oh, my gosh.
That's so not captain-like."

I wanted to be on the show
because I love Geneviève Bujold.
She's a wonderful actress.

But then Kate came on,
and it was seamless.

We were shooting the same scene,
and everyone is
on pins and needles--

"How is she gonna do this?
How is she gonna do this?"

She comes around.
She talks to me. She goes,
"Thrusters ready, Mr. Paris?"

And then she sits down,
and she looks at the camera,
and she goes, "Engage."

And we were all like,
"Thank God.
We've got a real captain now."

Warp six. Engage.

I did a feature film
with Richard Burton.

It may well
have been his last.
I did Tristan and Isolde.

They re-entitled it
Lovespell here
for marketing reasons.

We had a lot
of time together in Ireland--
three or four months...

living in castles.

And I said,
"Who was the best
you've ever worked with?

Yes, who was the best?"
I think we were having
a little whiskey.

- Of course.
- He said, "Ah, Katerina,
let me see."

And he talked about
Elizabeth Taylor, of course.
He was mad about her.

He said,
"The very best
was Geneviève Bujold.

- No.
- And I said, "How?"

He said, "We did
a little picture called
Anne of the Thousand Days.

And Elizabeth
was coming to visit me.

And I was sitting in a chair
next to Geneviève.

And she saw
Elizabeth Taylor arriving
out of the corner of her eye,

and she whispered,
not directly to me,
but almost to herself,

"Now I'm going to give her
an acting lesson
she'll never forget."

- [ Chuckles ]
- And he said, "And she did."

Wow.

[ Dawson ]
It's hard for people
who aren't in the business...

to understand that working
an eight-hour day is not even
a half day for us sometimes.

We're beginning
the second half of our day
at the end of that.

Things were not real smooth
in her personal life.

She was going through
a lot of stuff,

especially
when we started the show.

[ Wang ]
She was juggling
a lot of stuff--

dealing with an ex-husband
who wasn't really
cooperating basically.

And spent a lot of time talking
about juggling our lives
and the show--

making it a good show
but not neglecting
what we had at home,

which is why we do
this all,
really, ultimately.

It could have been
a much rockier start
for all of us...

had she not been of
the temperament that she is--
very strong.

[ Mulgrew ] You know, my boys
were nine and 10 when
I became Captain Janeway.

Boys don't care.
They want their mother.

I have regrets.

I think
that my relationships
were secondary to my career.

And in a couple of cases,
I regret that.

That's a terrible emotion,
isn't it?

Regret? No. I think it's
a deeply human emotion.

I don't trust people
who don't have regret.

I didn't say
it wasn't deeply human.
I said it's terrible.

I'll tell you this.

Uh, I think there's a moment
when you have to walk away.

You can walk.
You can get in a car,
drive away,

and I did neither.

When you get in the car,
where are you driving to?

Well, I would go
to my child
who was in pain.

- Who was in pain.
- Yeah, there was
a serious thing going on.

- Tell me about it.
- I don't wanna talk about that.

Go around it,
but give me the emotional--

The gist of it is this. Uh--

It's a harrowing thing.

It's urgent to the moment.

Hospitalization
is imminent.

Uh, the father is,
I think, out of town.

I need to go.

So a producer is saying to you,
"You can't go."

Essentially that's it.

"If you leave, it's gonna
cost us $250,000."

"How are we gonna do this?"
"How are we gonna do that?"

"What do we tell
Business Affairs?
What do we tell Public--"

I would say that there
is nothing quite like
that excruciating feeling...

of pressure.

Both sides coming in.

And I am this creature
in the middle.

And so what happened
that day in my life...

- was nobody got anything.
- Wow.

It wasn't easy being
the first female captain
in Star Trek.

There've been a bunch
of males before you.

[ Dawson ]
I think that Kate really
broke the glass ceiling...

in terms of captains, obviously.

The biggest thing for Kate
was the responsibility...

that there were young women...

who were gonna look
at her performance
and this character...

and that that might change
their lives.

And I think
she really believed it...

and felt the responsibility
of that, more than anything.

[ Woman ]
When Kate Mulgrew
came on as Captain Janeway,

that was it for me.

There are so little
really great female
role models out there,

and she proved
to be the best.

She was strong and resilient...

and totally committed
to getting her crew home...

at the expense of sometimes
herself and her life.

I know women look up to her,
especially, because she is
that role model for us.

I mean, working for 20 years,
and we're friends--
very good friends.

Her core
is a really strong woman.

Nothing can put her down.

She's just the kind
of woman that's really--

I wanna be like her.

I'm a retired
Supreme Court justice...

from the state of Nevada.

I was a judge
for about 20 years.

Military women that I know
who are captains,
majors, generals...

have all felt that she had
that right balance.

When you see women
doing professional roles
on a television program,

people, they don't realize it,
but over time, that's changing
their perspective...

on the outlook of the world.

[ Shatner ]
After seven successful seasons
of Voyager,

Kate continued in television...

but also found her way back
to her first love-- the theater.

Kate took on a role that,
whether she knew it or not,

she had been destined to play
her entire life.

Tea At Five, a one-woman play
written by Matthew Lombardo,

was an intimate look at
the life of Katharine Hepburn.

Kate had, for years,
been compared
to the legendary actress,

and her tour de force portrayl
would earn Kate
critical acclaim...

as well as a Carbonell Award
for best performance
by an actress.

[ Horn Honking ]

[ Shatner ]
You used the word "breadwinner."

Yeah.

Overrated.

[ Scoffs ]
Not at all.

You were the breadwinner
for your family. I know.

I could have taken
a different kind of job
that would have paid less...

but sufficiently.
You weren't sure of that.

Our nature of our work
is unsure, is precarious.

And here you have a contract
with a popular show,
and you're on that show,

and you're saying to yourself,
"There's nobody here
who's gonna support me...

if I don't have this job,
if I fail.

Nobody's gonna support me.

I'm supporting
not only me and my children...

but a whole skein
of other people."

- That's true.
- That's a huge force, Kate.

It is a huge force.
But I think we must
be very careful.

Now, I'm gonna be
strong about this
'cause I've thought it through.

We are in a greedy--
[ Chuckles ]
well-oiled business,

and you know it.

When it comes
to episodic television,
show me the money, baby.

'Cause if there's no money,
we don't do that kind of work.

We don't do that
out of love.

This is
where we go for love.

Hollywood, episodic television,
is where the money is.

So it's about
a kind of greed, isn't it?

Part of what you said is true.
There's money there.

- But, hey, you did
some good acting.
- Yes, that's true.

Some good work.
Got well paid for it.

Doesn't that put to lie
the statement you just made?
No.

I would not have done that
for no money.

But I do this for no money.
Do you understand
the difference?

- Right. I do, but--
- And I did this
when I was young for no money.

And I've continued to do it
all my life for no money.

We knew she would be successful,
'cause she was driven.

[ Man ]
I can see her back there
at Derby Grange.

She had that modified version
of Shakespeare,

and she's reading
Shakespeare to me,
and I'm, like, 16 years old.

Visiting her over there,
and she's reading this part...

back by their barn out there
at Derby Grange,

and I thought,
"She's really committed
to this whole thing."

So when she moved to New York,
it was no doubt that she would
land work as an actress.

We got a couple of members
of Kate's family here.

Mm-hmm.

I want them to ask
some questions as well.
Kate, introduce us.

Bill, it's my great pleasure
to introduce you
to my youngest sister.

I'm one of eight children

This is Jenny Mulgrew,
my beloved youngest sister,

and her daughter,
my goddaughter, Michaela,

otherwise known
as Cookie Beck.

Cookie?
Cookie. And she
is a real cookie.

- Let me take it from here.
- Yeah, you do--

Jenny, I want you to ask
your sister a question...

of something
you've wondered about.

Wow. You're not
making this very easy
on me, are ya?

[ Laughs ]
Let me think about that.

Because I could pretty much
ask her anything, and I have.

I suppose, Katie.
Let's turn back the clock.

If you had to do it
all over again,
would you?

And if not,
what would you do?

I would change
my relationship
with my daughter.

And I would change
my relationship
with my sons.

[ Jenny ]
Well, naturally, we all would,
um, fix the things...

that we regret
and wish that never were.

- Exactly.
- But my question is--

In the event that you had
to do it all over again,

would you still be
the actress that you are,

or would you have done it
differently, do you think?

Oh, I can answer one thing.

And I've given this
great thought,

so I can answer it
with some confidence.

I would not have gone
to Hollywood
as young as I did.

I would have
stayed in New York.

I said no to Mrs. Columbo,
to Fred Silverman,
when he offered it to me.

I said I'm too young.
I'm an actress
in the theater.

I've trained to be
in the theater.

I've been offered Desdemona,
and I wanna stay.

He said, "I'm gonna make you
an offer you must accept."
And he did.

- And you accepted it?
- Yes, but I've regretted that.

It didn't go well.
Well, no.

It staggered.
You're right.

It had three incarnations.

What do you mean?
It was Mrs. Columbo.

Then it was
Kate Loves a Mystery,
and then it was Kate Columbo.

He kept trying.
Mm-hmm.

[ Mulgrew ]
I think he kept trying
because he knew...

that I'd given up my whole life
to go out there and do that...

and that I had
resisted it initially.

So the irony is it didn't
work out the way you thought
it was going to work out.

And I was terribly happy
that it didn't work out.
Right.

But did you remain
in Los Angeles as a result of--

- I fled. I came
right back to New York.
- You fled.

And what
do you think happened
the minute I landed?

I was offered a movie.

And out of that
came a miniseries
which shot in Ireland.

So what happened was
film shaped my career
instead of the theater.

- So by the nature
of the decision you made...
- Uh-huh.

not to play Desdemona,
to go with Fred Silverman,

changed your entire life.

Yeah. Yes,
I would say it did.

- And if the nature
of your regret has any value,
- Mmm.

it would be had you remained
true to your ideals,

at that moment, your life
would have been different.

And again, we're talking
about that curious reaction...

that we both had
in our respective trailers...

when pressure was applied
to us to do something.

I felt the same pressure
about Mrs. Columbo.

Because it didn't just come
from Fred Silverman.

It was coming
from my agent, from my lawyer,
from everybody I knew.

"You're crazy. You're crazy.
You're crazy.
You got to do this.

It's gonna open up
your career."

But my best instinct
was saying, "Baloney."

[ Picardo ]
I remember the last day
that Kate shot--

working alone, on a bridge,
with a stripped-down crew...

and just doing
some quick inserts...

and quick pops for
little moments on the bridge.

And the moment
she did the last one,

it was like,
"Cut. Okay, that's it."

And they were just pulling
the set apart around her.

There was just, like,
no acknowledgment of the moment.

No flowers sent down
from the production office.

No thanks
for seven years
of leadership.

No this or that.
Just, "Cut. That's it.

Please get off the chair
so we can hit it with an ax."

And she looked
a little shell-shocked
and confused and sad.

And I saw her on stage
and saw these things
playing across her face...

and stepped out
and gave her a big hug,

and that was really
the moment where...

Voyager came home.

[ Shatner ]
Kate Mulgrew
is an American classic,

a unique combination
of talent, grace,
strength and vulnerability.

Kate continues
her exceptional journey...

in theater, television,
film and in life.

I think when I was young,

acting was, for me,
the great escape.

Although I took it
very seriously.

As I've evolved,

loved and lost--

but loved--

I see that what's
really interesting to me
and important to me in life...

is human relationships...

beyond this--
certainly beyond this.

I suppose I wish
I could say otherwise,
but it's not true.

Not fame, not money,
not even the craft itself...

is more important to me
than the people that I love.

And that's
where I've come to.

I suppose
that was always me.

But it takes some years
of feeling...

the deep strains of love.

It's the only mystery...

that-- that is
infinitely important.

Nothing else matters
to me, really,

and I don't think--
I think nothing else
really matters, period.

All the rest of it
shall pass away,

but love endures
in a curious way,

in whatever way
you wanna, um, put it.

But for me,
that's where I am.

There is no question.
People come first.

[ Sam ]
I think her principal
kind of influence was my mother.

My mother basically
encouraged her to do
the thing that she loved.

She gave her the confidence
that she should be able
to go out and achieve it.

My life has been
greatly influenced
by the strong women in my life,

and Katie is right
at the top of that.

[ Hemmer ]
But I think she's accomplished
a great deal...

not only in television
and in motion pictures...

but in her personal life
with her dedication
to the Alzheimer's Association.

I think it's very inspiring.

And I think she's really
a woman of principle
and great character.

- What a wonderful interview
you have given.
- Thank you.

What an honest,
straightforward--
as you are--

Irish girl.

Thank you. You're tough,
but you're always
fascinating.

Come here.

I love you.
You're fantastic.
You too. You too.

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Captions, Inc., Burbank, CA

They never really let
Kate's character have any
strong romantic interests.

She had to be kind
of the tortured loner
female captain...

of the starship Voyager,

taking its long
75-year journey home...

without a date.

[ Man ] That relationship
between Janeway and Chakotay
that could have been...

but never could be.

[ Laughing ]

One question
for all of you
out there.

Who would've run
the damn ship?
Right?

Commander Chakotay,
in my bedroom, now.