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Continuing today's
hearing on future VA funding...
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the Senate Committee on
Veterans' Affairs...
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is called back to order.
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We'll hear from our
next witness.
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Will you please stand
and raise your right hand?
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My apologies.
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Please raise your right hand.
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Do you swear that the testimony
you're about to give...
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this committee will be the
truth, the whole truth...
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and nothing but the
truth, so help you God?
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I do.
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Please state your name.
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Private First Class Adam Green,
United States Army, retired.
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Mr. Green, I understand you've
prepared a statement?
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I have, sir.
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You may enter it into the record
at this time.
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Mr. Chairman, members of the
Committee...
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I want to thank you
for the opportunity...
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to speak with you today.
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I served in the military f...
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I'm sorry, if I could just...
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Sure, go ahead.
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Thank you, sir.
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I've always liked numbers.
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Whenever I have a hard time
wrapping my head around...
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something, I find that numbers
make things clearer for me.
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They help me understand
decisions that are made...
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and the impacts of those
decisions.
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So, if it's all right...
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I'd like the start with the
number 1.4 million.
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That's the number of men
and women...
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who are currently serving
in our military.
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555...
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that's how many days passed
before we invaded one country...
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after having been attacked
by another.
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19... is how old I was when
I enlisted.
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Three is the number of hours
that passed from the time...
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I arrived in Iraq to the time
our transport...
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was destroyed by an I.E.D.
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And then there's six.
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That's the number of inches the
piece of shrapnel was...
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that severed my spinal cord.
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The only problems with numbers
is they can be impersonal.
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A decision you made had a
life-changing impact on me...
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and a lot of soldiers like me.
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Now, I'm not a military expert.
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I don't know a whole lot
about geopolitical affairs.
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I'm just an ordinary American.
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And I understand that you've
asked me here...
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because you all have
some questions for me,
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but if it's all right, I'd like
to ask all of you a question.
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How the hell did this happen?
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My fellow citizens,
at this hour...
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American and coalition forces
are in the early stages...
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of military operations
to disarm Iraq, to free...
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its people and to defend
the world from grave danger.
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The start of the
campaign called Shock and Awe.
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Shock and Awe.
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- Shock and Awe.
- Shock and Awe, indeed.
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Air raid sirens
are going off in Baghdad...
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The massive
military operation...
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to topple Saddam Hussein
is now in effect.
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Firing 600 Cruise missiles...
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and every type of war plane
in the American arsenal.
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A fearsome display
of American military might.
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The scale of this attack...
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is considerably higher than
anything we've seen before.
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We're taking out
whole buildings...
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with these Cruise missiles.
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U.S. war planes unleashed...
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to promise massive bombardment
of Baghdad.
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3,000 Tomahawk
Cruise missiles...
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satellite-guided precision
bombs, laser-guided bombs.
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I think the
citizens of Baghdad know...
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exactly what the Pentagon
means by Shock and Awe.
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Just over the
Kuwait-Iraq border...
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we watched as columns of troops
moved into the country.
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They're well on their
way to Baghdad.
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They have met resistance.
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We can't leave the
television...
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every tank, every helicopter...
is that my son?
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Now Baghdad is
within striking distance...
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just a few short miles away...
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as U.S. troops make their final
push forward.
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We want to slaughter
them all...
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those invaders, their tombs
will be here in Iraq.
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If Saddam Hussein
is alive, he is quote...
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"Not in control of his military
and of his government."
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These are opening stages
of what will be a broad...
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and concerted campaign.
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Could be longer and more
difficult than some predict.
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And helping Iraqis achieve
a united, stable...
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and free country will require
our sustained commitment.
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And you can know that our
forces will be coming home...
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as soon as their work is done.
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Keep moving! Keep moving!
Let's go!
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- Where are they taking us?
- Shut up. Head down.
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Keep your mouth shut or I'll
blow your fucking head off.
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- All right, all right.
- Are you a soldier?
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- Journalist.
- Who do you work for?
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- Knight Ridder.
- Never heard of it.
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You should read more.
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What is your name?
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Jonathan Landay.
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Goodbye, Jonathan Landay.
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Exercise complete.
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What you have just engaged in is
called The Gray Man Exercise.
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And what you have just
witnessed...
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is a colossal failure
of that exercise.
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If a journalist is captured...
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terrorists may keep you alive...
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in hopes of getting information
or exchanging you for a ransom.
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But if you give them a reason
to kill you, they will.
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The purpose of this exercise
is to teach you...
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how to avoid drawing the
attention of your captors.
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Hence the name, Gray Man.
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Can you untie me?
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This could save your life one
day, you understand?
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I do, I've been in 11 war zones,
I've been shot at...
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I've been held captive, I take
this very seriously.
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But if you don't untie me right
now, I may lose my job.
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And I'm fairly certain that
none of this training...
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is going to be very useful...
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when I'm mopping the floor
at Staples.
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Both of the twin towers...
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the World Trade Center in New
York's lower Manhattan...
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have been struck by planes this
morning within 20 minutes.
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First, it was the North Tower
that was struck...
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with a gaping hole left in two
sides of that building.
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Good God.
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20 minutes later, the second
building...
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the second tower in that World
Trade Center complex...
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I think we should keep Elizabeth
in school.
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Yeah, no, I think that's
a good idea.
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Why freak her out, huh?
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And I'll call Ali and Jennifer
as soon as the phones open up.
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- I love you.
- I love you.
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Okay.
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We should tell you that...
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we have gotten calls from
people...
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who live and work around the
Pentagon who have told us...
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that they have seen
something...
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that they have described
as an explosion.
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This is information we have not
been able to confirm.
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Get up.
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Sorry, Dad.
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Monday Night Football went long.
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Let's clean this place up.
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Trade Center
here in New York...
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have been hit by airplanes.
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In Washington, there is a large
fire at the Pentagon.
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The Pentagon has been
evacuated.
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And there is, you can see,
perhaps, the second tower...
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the front tower, the top
portion of which is collapsing.
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Good Lord.
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Lot of people going to need
a drink tonight.
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Soldiers drink free.
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There are no words.
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All federal office buildings
now...
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all federal office buildings
in Washington, D.C.
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are being evacuated as we speak
to you now.
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We are in the middle of an
extraordinary catastrophe.
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The most important things to
tell you if you just joined...
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in is that what has all the
makings of an extraordinarily..
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well-planned terrorist attack
on both Washington and New York
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has taken place this morning.
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The Trade Centers here
in New York...
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the two World Trade Center
towers have collapsed...
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after being hit by planes.
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Yeah, this is John Walcott
from Knight Ridder.
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Is he there?
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Yeah, okay, well, tell him
I'll try him back later.
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Thank you.
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I just spoke with my wife.
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She and the kids are
afraid to leave the house.
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What are they doing over there?
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They're watching the White
House.
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To see if it gets hit?
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Yes.
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Oh, Jesus. All right, go home
to your family.
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And tell your colleagues that
maybe they want to stay away...
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from the windows, okay?
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- Thanks, John.
- Yeah.
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Okay. All right. Okay.
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Their working thesis is that
this is overseas terrorism...
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not domestic.
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Attention will quickly turn to
the bin Laden group...
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because it has long
tentacles.
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There are very few others that
could have pulled this off.
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Are we sending somebody
to New York?
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Ken Moore at Suvu was already up
there covering Wall Street.
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What's going on over at State?
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Powell's in Peru.
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They're working on getting
him home as soon as possible.
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All right, what we need to do
is track the President.
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Track his top people
and find out...
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who's responsible for all this.
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We need as many sources
at as many agencies...
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to go on the record and tell us
all what we know has to be true.
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Al Qaeda! Al Qaeda!
It's Al Qaeda.
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It's definitely Al Qaeda.
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What the hell are you wearing?
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Well, the wifey wanted
to evacuate...
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but she locked the cat
and the keys in the cars.
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So, I biked in.
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We need to know how
they pulled this off.
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Anybody needs to go home
to their family...
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feel free to do so.
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Just came from the family.
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Let's get to work.
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It's Walcott.
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Today, our fellow citizens,
our way of life...
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our very freedom, came under
attack in a series...
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of deliberate and deadly
terrorist acts.
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Adam, hand me the
Jameson, please.
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Yes, sir. Here you go.
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Thank you, son.
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It's on the house, gentlemen.
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Thanks.
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Dad's saying we're staying open
as late as they want.
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They must be scared.
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- They're Rangers.
- They're boys.
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Our military is powerful and
it's prepared.
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The search is underway
for those...
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who are behind these evil acts.
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I've directed the full
resources of our intelligence..
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and law enforcement communities
to find those responsible...
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and to bring them to justice.
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It's been 33 hours
since the terrible...
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and unprecedented attack
on the United States.
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There is, as we've said, an
enormous search and rescue...
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operation, and enormous and
intense criminal investigation.
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And we're just beginning
to understand...
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the extents of the catastrophe.
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I feel like I haven't
slept in a month.
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It's going to be a bunch
of zombies running this town.
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What do you know about
the preliminary plans...
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to go after bin Laden?
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I don't have anything to give
you on that yet.
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Ok, well, how long before we're
on the ground in Afghanistan...
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and how long do they project
we'll be there?
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Look, I'm trying to get answers
to the same questions you are.
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What I can say is, most of the
talk this morning...
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hasn't been about Afghanistan.
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Well, what's it been about?
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Iraq?
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I got it from a source at State
who got it from the Pentagon.
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In connection with the attacks?
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Crackpot theories from people
who don't know...
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what the hell they're talking
about.
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It was Rumsfeld.
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Really?
254
00:14:13,759 --> 00:14:16,193
Yeah, apparently, there's a lot
of people over at Defense...
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00:14:16,195 --> 00:14:18,496
that think this had to be
State-sponsored.
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00:14:18,498 --> 00:14:22,100
I mean, not just Rumsfeld,
there's also that smug...
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00:14:22,102 --> 00:14:25,202
son of a bitch at the Defense
Policy Board...
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00:14:25,204 --> 00:14:26,603
the Prince of Darkness?
259
00:14:26,605 --> 00:14:28,539
- Richard Perle.
- Right. Perle.
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00:14:28,541 --> 00:14:30,774
And that neo-con over at the
Project...
261
00:14:30,776 --> 00:14:33,311
for the New American
whatever the fuck...
262
00:14:33,313 --> 00:14:34,645
New American Century,
Bill Kristol.
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00:14:34,647 --> 00:14:36,481
That giant butthole,
Bill Kristol.
264
00:14:36,483 --> 00:14:40,351
And he's got to be creaming his
little jammies over this.
265
00:14:40,353 --> 00:14:42,186
Yeah, these think-tank boys...
266
00:14:42,188 --> 00:14:44,322
have been trying to push out
Saddam Hussein since '97.
267
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They have this crazy theory that
if they can just stick...
268
00:14:48,294 --> 00:14:50,361
a Western-style of democracy in
the Middle East...
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00:14:50,363 --> 00:14:52,730
it's going to magically
proliferate...
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00:14:52,732 --> 00:14:54,399
and wind up protecting Israel.
271
00:14:54,401 --> 00:14:56,768
You got to give them credit
for creative thinking.
272
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It's Ivory Tower crap.
273
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I mean, in what world do they
think that Osama bin Laden...
274
00:15:02,142 --> 00:15:04,775
and Saddam Hussein hatched
this thing up together?
275
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Let's find out if these
dickweeds...
276
00:15:06,813 --> 00:15:09,813
are serious about Iraq, okay?
277
00:15:09,815 --> 00:15:11,616
Look, I'm not saying there's
a link to Iraq...
278
00:15:11,618 --> 00:15:13,183
and neither is my boss.
279
00:15:13,185 --> 00:15:14,452
This is just something
we're hearing.
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From whom?
281
00:15:15,754 --> 00:15:18,121
Who told me or where is it
coming from?
282
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Take your pick.
283
00:15:19,559 --> 00:15:21,092
Someone at the Pentagon.
284
00:15:21,094 --> 00:15:23,093
In the Vice President's office?
285
00:15:23,095 --> 00:15:24,428
It's just theories.
286
00:15:24,430 --> 00:15:26,430
Are there any Senators talking
to anyone...
287
00:15:26,432 --> 00:15:28,632
saying anything different?
288
00:15:28,634 --> 00:15:30,268
I know Powell's objected...
289
00:15:30,270 --> 00:15:33,737
to going into anywhere other
than Afghanistan.
290
00:16:05,338 --> 00:16:06,404
Go away.
291
00:16:06,406 --> 00:16:07,737
One question and I'm gone.
292
00:16:07,739 --> 00:16:09,473
I'm not talking to you
on the record.
293
00:16:09,475 --> 00:16:13,046
Anonymous source, intelligence
community.
294
00:16:14,214 --> 00:16:15,712
You can't use my name.
295
00:16:15,714 --> 00:16:18,149
Never have, never will.
296
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Or my agency.
297
00:16:19,118 --> 00:16:21,055
Pinky swear.
298
00:16:23,156 --> 00:16:25,890
One question.
299
00:16:25,892 --> 00:16:28,796
Are you looking into an Iraqi
connection?
300
00:16:30,796 --> 00:16:33,530
Who's the you in that question?
301
00:16:33,532 --> 00:16:35,298
Are we in the United States?
302
00:16:35,300 --> 00:16:36,833
There are some people.
303
00:16:36,835 --> 00:16:38,468
Are we in my agency?
304
00:16:38,470 --> 00:16:40,371
Not that I'm aware of.
305
00:16:40,373 --> 00:16:42,874
Am I, personally?
306
00:16:42,876 --> 00:16:45,342
No way.
307
00:16:45,344 --> 00:16:47,377
Okay, the second part
to the question.
308
00:16:47,379 --> 00:16:48,513
No.
309
00:16:48,515 --> 00:16:50,184
Thank you.
310
00:16:52,484 --> 00:16:54,751
So, no one you work with at the
Library of Congress has ever...
311
00:16:54,753 --> 00:16:56,821
found a link between Saddam
Hussein and Al Qaeda?
312
00:16:56,823 --> 00:16:59,524
No one I work with
would expect to find a link.
313
00:16:59,526 --> 00:17:01,324
So, as far as you know...
314
00:17:01,326 --> 00:17:02,793
there's nothing substantial to
tie Iraq to bin Laden?
315
00:17:02,795 --> 00:17:04,461
There's nothing even
circumstantial.
316
00:17:04,463 --> 00:17:06,496
To lump together a secular
leader like Saddam...
317
00:17:06,498 --> 00:17:09,499
with an Islamic extremist
like bin Laden is simply...
318
00:17:09,501 --> 00:17:11,637
to have no understanding
of the Muslim world.
319
00:17:15,941 --> 00:17:17,874
It's a bit timid.
320
00:17:17,876 --> 00:17:19,944
No one's actually come out and
said anything publicly yet.
321
00:17:19,946 --> 00:17:21,946
Maybe it's just backroom
speculation.
322
00:17:21,948 --> 00:17:23,480
Pretty dangerous speculation.
323
00:17:23,482 --> 00:17:25,483
Can't we hit it harder than
this?
324
00:17:25,485 --> 00:17:27,418
The attacks were just 10 days
ago.
325
00:17:27,420 --> 00:17:28,553
Everyone's trying to play
catch-up.
326
00:17:28,555 --> 00:17:30,487
Got to press our reliables.
327
00:17:30,489 --> 00:17:32,489
I'll reach out to The Italian
Lady.
328
00:17:32,491 --> 00:17:34,492
You think you can get Loose
Nukes to go on the record?
329
00:17:34,494 --> 00:17:36,761
I'm lucky to get her on deep
background.
330
00:17:36,763 --> 00:17:40,497
Well, double down on the Charm
Offensive.
331
00:17:40,499 --> 00:17:43,266
Buongiorno, this is Warren
Strobel.
332
00:17:43,268 --> 00:17:46,536
I was looking to get your advice
on a critical scheduling matter.
333
00:17:46,538 --> 00:17:49,607
If you could contact me at your
earliest possible convenience...
334
00:17:49,609 --> 00:17:52,576
I would greatly appreciate it.
Thank you.
335
00:17:52,578 --> 00:17:53,710
Hello.
336
00:17:53,712 --> 00:17:55,513
Yeah, hi, it's Jonathan.
337
00:17:55,515 --> 00:17:56,980
I don't have
anything for you.
338
00:17:56,982 --> 00:18:00,418
No, I know, I know, but I'm
doing a story...
339
00:18:00,420 --> 00:18:02,786
on the administration's seeming
interest in Iraq.
340
00:18:02,788 --> 00:18:04,788
Jonathan, we're
not going to talk about this.
341
00:18:04,790 --> 00:18:07,691
No, I know, I know I'm not
talking about this...
342
00:18:07,693 --> 00:18:10,995
because it's off the record, but
can you give me some indication?
343
00:18:10,997 --> 00:18:12,365
Bye, Jonathan.
344
00:18:14,366 --> 00:18:15,699
What'd she say?
345
00:18:15,701 --> 00:18:18,236
She sends her love.
346
00:18:18,238 --> 00:18:19,637
Across the nation...
347
00:18:19,639 --> 00:18:21,572
flags have been flying off
the shelves.
348
00:18:21,574 --> 00:18:25,476
A wave of patriotism has been
spreading across America.
349
00:18:25,478 --> 00:18:29,280
At times like this,
it's what we do in America.
350
00:18:29,282 --> 00:18:32,682
We the People pull together.
351
00:18:32,684 --> 00:18:34,685
They had a discussion in school
today...
352
00:18:34,687 --> 00:18:37,420
about why America is so great,
right?
353
00:18:37,422 --> 00:18:38,889
Yeah, and what'd you say?
354
00:18:38,891 --> 00:18:40,490
It's a free country.
355
00:18:40,492 --> 00:18:41,926
That's a great answer.
356
00:18:41,928 --> 00:18:43,526
That's Mama's boy.
357
00:18:43,528 --> 00:18:45,295
May I be done now?
358
00:18:45,297 --> 00:18:47,297
Not until I get a big hug.
359
00:18:47,299 --> 00:18:50,400
Okay, after your mom gets a hug.
360
00:18:50,402 --> 00:18:51,971
Oh, whoa!
361
00:18:54,673 --> 00:18:56,306
Proud of you, munchie.
362
00:18:56,308 --> 00:18:58,211
Love you.
363
00:19:00,446 --> 00:19:04,047
They're really pushing this
nationalism thing at school.
364
00:19:04,049 --> 00:19:05,815
What do you expect?
365
00:19:05,817 --> 00:19:07,618
Of course, there's
going to be patriotism now.
366
00:19:07,620 --> 00:19:11,421
Oh, you want to call it
patriotism?
367
00:19:11,423 --> 00:19:12,922
Fine.
368
00:19:12,924 --> 00:19:14,691
It smells a lot like
nationalism to me.
369
00:19:14,693 --> 00:19:19,663
That's how it started in
Yugoslavia before the war.
370
00:19:19,665 --> 00:19:21,634
Tore my country apart.
371
00:19:44,957 --> 00:19:47,891
You want some help?
372
00:19:47,893 --> 00:19:50,529
No, I'm okay, thank you.
373
00:19:52,664 --> 00:19:54,631
Okay, have a good night.
374
00:19:54,633 --> 00:19:55,635
Good night.
375
00:20:03,543 --> 00:20:05,909
How real is the Iraqi
conversation?
376
00:20:05,911 --> 00:20:07,911
There's an argument
taking place.
377
00:20:07,913 --> 00:20:10,848
Yeah? Who's winning it?
378
00:20:10,850 --> 00:20:12,615
I couldn't say.
379
00:20:12,617 --> 00:20:16,853
Look, my boss is gonna send me
to Afghanistan, and all I want..
380
00:20:16,855 --> 00:20:20,390
to know is should he be buying
a roundtrip ticket...
381
00:20:20,392 --> 00:20:24,597
or is Afghanistan just a
layover on the way to Baghdad?
382
00:20:28,700 --> 00:20:31,468
I can't tell you anything.
383
00:20:31,470 --> 00:20:33,504
I believe major acts
of terrorism...
384
00:20:33,506 --> 00:20:36,607
against the U.S. are
state-sponsored.
385
00:20:36,609 --> 00:20:39,810
So, we asked ourselves,
"Who could have been behind...
386
00:20:39,812 --> 00:20:42,746
the most massive terrorist
assault in human history...
387
00:20:42,748 --> 00:20:44,648
"which state?"
388
00:20:44,650 --> 00:20:49,853
I think Iraq is the state that
most immediately comes to mind.
389
00:20:49,855 --> 00:20:52,656
This is an idea which in...
390
00:20:52,658 --> 00:20:54,725
is gaining increased
credibility.
391
00:20:54,727 --> 00:20:56,627
Knight Ridder, it's Strobel.
392
00:20:56,629 --> 00:20:58,094
Jim Woolsey
is going to Europe...
393
00:20:58,096 --> 00:20:59,830
to try to find a link
between Saddam...
394
00:20:59,832 --> 00:21:02,602
and the 1993 World Trade Center
bombing.
395
00:21:03,769 --> 00:21:05,636
Is he freelancing?
396
00:21:05,638 --> 00:21:07,772
He was sent
on an official government jet.
397
00:21:07,774 --> 00:21:10,006
Jesus, who sent him?
398
00:21:10,008 --> 00:21:12,709
The deputy defense secretary.
399
00:21:12,711 --> 00:21:14,911
Can you meet for coffee?
400
00:21:14,913 --> 00:21:16,450
I'll be in touch.
401
00:21:17,883 --> 00:21:19,883
Hi, this is Warren
Strobel with Knight Ridder.
402
00:21:19,885 --> 00:21:21,619
I'm working on a story...
403
00:21:21,621 --> 00:21:23,187
about former CIA director James
Woolsey traveling to Europe.
404
00:21:23,189 --> 00:21:25,188
Do you know anything about that?
405
00:21:25,190 --> 00:21:28,191
I didn't have
anything to do with that.
406
00:21:28,193 --> 00:21:30,194
But you're aware that such
a trip has taken place?
407
00:21:30,196 --> 00:21:33,730
I can't be your only
source on this.
408
00:21:33,732 --> 00:21:35,901
All right, stay in touch.
409
00:21:37,702 --> 00:21:40,470
Hey, John.
410
00:21:40,472 --> 00:21:42,605
Woolsey was sent to Europe
to look for evidence...
411
00:21:42,607 --> 00:21:45,543
linking Saddam to the World
Trade Center bombing in '93.
412
00:21:45,545 --> 00:21:48,711
Wouldn't be a fool's errand if
they didn't send a fool.
413
00:21:48,713 --> 00:21:50,547
This came from The Italian Lady?
414
00:21:50,549 --> 00:21:51,748
And a diplomat who can
confirm...
415
00:21:51,750 --> 00:21:53,082
the trip was arranged by
Wolfowitz.
416
00:21:53,084 --> 00:21:54,752
What the hell is going on
over at Defense?
417
00:21:54,754 --> 00:21:56,786
Question is, are they trying to
figure out...
418
00:21:56,788 --> 00:21:58,555
if there's any truth to their
theory...
419
00:21:58,557 --> 00:22:01,191
or are they already convinced
their theory is true?
420
00:22:01,193 --> 00:22:02,927
You're sure about
this Woolsey trip?
421
00:22:02,929 --> 00:22:04,928
- Positive.
- You have a third source?
422
00:22:04,930 --> 00:22:06,030
- Yeah.
- Who?
423
00:22:06,032 --> 00:22:07,834
Jim Woolsey.
424
00:22:20,112 --> 00:22:23,917
Hey, it's Walcott,
you up for a field trip?
425
00:22:26,786 --> 00:22:28,752
I figured you'd be calling...
426
00:22:28,754 --> 00:22:30,557
I just didn't think
it would be this soon.
427
00:22:33,659 --> 00:22:35,758
How real is the chatter
about Iraq?
428
00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:37,628
Very.
429
00:22:37,630 --> 00:22:41,532
And it's diverting our attention
from the people who attacked us.
430
00:22:41,534 --> 00:22:44,171
How soon before Iraq becomes
the focus?
431
00:22:45,904 --> 00:22:48,639
We need to blow something up.
432
00:22:48,641 --> 00:22:50,674
Not enough targets in
Afghanistan.
433
00:22:50,676 --> 00:22:51,809
What about bin Laden?
434
00:22:51,811 --> 00:22:53,276
You take out bin Laden...
435
00:22:53,278 --> 00:22:55,714
interest in the war goes right
down the shitter.
436
00:22:57,650 --> 00:23:00,851
A joint offensive in
its sixth day in Tora Bora...
437
00:23:00,853 --> 00:23:02,820
bin Laden's suspected
hideout...
438
00:23:02,822 --> 00:23:05,589
but still no signs of the
world's most wanted man.
439
00:23:05,591 --> 00:23:09,159
U.S. B-52s pounding Al Qaeda
positions from the air...
440
00:23:09,161 --> 00:23:10,894
while anti-Taliban tanks...
441
00:23:10,896 --> 00:23:12,696
and troops meet strong
resistance...
442
00:23:12,698 --> 00:23:15,131
cave to cave,
from Al Qaeda fighters.
443
00:23:15,133 --> 00:23:17,001
With yet more conflicting
reports...
444
00:23:17,003 --> 00:23:19,005
on bin Laden's whereabouts.
445
00:23:20,940 --> 00:23:22,672
What you got there...
446
00:23:22,674 --> 00:23:24,675
is that your State of the
Union piece for tomorrow?
447
00:23:24,677 --> 00:23:26,709
- Yup.
- You got a lunch today?
448
00:23:26,711 --> 00:23:28,879
Not with you.
449
00:23:28,881 --> 00:23:30,980
I got a one-on-one with Looney
Tunes over at State.
450
00:23:30,982 --> 00:23:32,582
There's a dry hole.
451
00:23:32,584 --> 00:23:34,284
Yeah, well, I figured if I just
let him ramble on...
452
00:23:34,286 --> 00:23:36,320
he'll accidentally stumble
into something newsworthy.
453
00:23:36,322 --> 00:23:37,755
Yeah, well, give my best.
454
00:23:37,757 --> 00:23:39,790
I will. Hot off the presses,
Beryl.
455
00:23:39,792 --> 00:23:41,225
Did you use punctuation
this time?
456
00:23:41,227 --> 00:23:43,159
I even threw in a few semicolons
just for you.
457
00:23:43,161 --> 00:23:46,764
I bet you're the pride of the
University of Missouri.
458
00:23:46,766 --> 00:23:50,801
Terrorists who once occupied
Afghanistan...
459
00:23:50,803 --> 00:23:53,672
now occupy cells
at Guantanamo Bay.
460
00:23:56,909 --> 00:23:59,976
And terrorist leaders who urged
followers to sacrifice...
461
00:23:59,978 --> 00:24:03,280
their lives are running'
for their own.
462
00:24:03,282 --> 00:24:07,851
Now, the administration's top
priority apart from our own...
463
00:24:07,853 --> 00:24:11,788
security is to ensure
freedom for other countries...
464
00:24:11,790 --> 00:24:16,060
looking to embrace democracy
as a way of life.
465
00:24:16,062 --> 00:24:18,861
Now, we... excuse me... we
understand that we can't...
466
00:24:18,863 --> 00:24:20,863
be the policemen to the world...
467
00:24:20,865 --> 00:24:23,266
but we feel we
have a responsibility to...
468
00:24:23,268 --> 00:24:24,668
Yeah, John Walcott.
469
00:24:24,670 --> 00:24:26,102
John!
470
00:24:26,104 --> 00:24:27,236
Dixie?
471
00:24:27,238 --> 00:24:28,706
John, can you hear me?
472
00:24:28,708 --> 00:24:30,239
Yeah, yeah, I can hear you.
473
00:24:30,241 --> 00:24:32,610
I got a call from one of
our boys downrange today...
474
00:24:32,612 --> 00:24:34,178
asking me what the fuck's
going on.
475
00:24:34,180 --> 00:24:35,979
Are you still in Afghanistan?
476
00:24:35,981 --> 00:24:37,614
Yeah, I'm in Afghanistan...
477
00:24:37,616 --> 00:24:39,115
but nobody knows what the
mission is anymore.
478
00:24:39,117 --> 00:24:41,051
How do you bomb a country back
into the Stone Age...
479
00:24:41,053 --> 00:24:43,219
that's already in the middle
of the goddamn Stone Age?
480
00:24:43,221 --> 00:24:46,357
Our second goal is to prevent
regimes that sponsor terror...
481
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:50,727
from threatening America,
or our friends and allies...
482
00:24:50,729 --> 00:24:52,630
with weapons of mass
destruction.
483
00:24:52,632 --> 00:24:56,667
We believe that Afghanistan
is ripe for freedom.
484
00:24:56,669 --> 00:25:00,070
Now, this is a country that has
been struggling to free...
485
00:25:00,072 --> 00:25:03,273
itself from the repressive grip
of the Taliban for years.
486
00:25:03,275 --> 00:25:06,643
We've got bin Laden on the run
and they're diverting my assets.
487
00:25:06,645 --> 00:25:08,411
We may never get him in our
crosshairs again.
488
00:25:08,413 --> 00:25:11,982
Whoa, whoa, wait, they're
diverting your assets to where?
489
00:25:11,984 --> 00:25:14,284
Some of these regimes have been
pretty quiet since...
490
00:25:14,286 --> 00:25:18,121
September the 11th, but we know
their true nature.
491
00:25:18,123 --> 00:25:21,958
You know, it's a country in
desperate need of the kind...
492
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,961
of stability that comes with the
rule of law.
493
00:25:24,963 --> 00:25:28,966
North Korea, Iran, Iraq...
states like these...
494
00:25:28,968 --> 00:25:33,871
and their terrorist allies
constitute an axis of evil...
495
00:25:33,873 --> 00:25:35,938
arming to threaten the
peace of the world.
496
00:25:35,940 --> 00:25:37,675
You'll have to excuse me...
497
00:25:37,677 --> 00:25:40,244
Warren, but I have to prepare
a briefing for Secretary Powell.
498
00:25:40,246 --> 00:25:41,245
Sure.
499
00:25:41,247 --> 00:25:42,412
Anything else you need from me?
500
00:25:42,414 --> 00:25:44,180
No, no, thank you.
501
00:25:44,182 --> 00:25:45,983
I think you've given me
more than enough to chew on.
502
00:25:45,985 --> 00:25:47,316
Excellent.
503
00:25:47,318 --> 00:25:48,951
And you feel confident that
Afghanistan...
504
00:25:48,953 --> 00:25:50,286
will accept a Western-style
democracy?
505
00:25:50,288 --> 00:25:51,788
Oh, absolutely.
506
00:25:51,790 --> 00:25:54,291
Just as confident as
we are about Iraq.
507
00:25:54,293 --> 00:25:58,062
Sounds like the debate on Iraq
is getting serious.
508
00:25:58,064 --> 00:26:00,863
Oh, no, no, no, that debate
is over.
509
00:26:00,865 --> 00:26:04,200
Saddam's got to go,
the only question is how.
510
00:26:04,202 --> 00:26:05,369
Good talking to you, Warren.
511
00:26:05,371 --> 00:26:07,273
Yeah, you, too, sir.
512
00:26:09,441 --> 00:26:11,207
The president
is going to invade Iraq.
513
00:26:11,209 --> 00:26:12,942
You got this from Looney Tunes?
514
00:26:12,944 --> 00:26:15,044
Yeah, and confirmed by a
diplomat who says he met...
515
00:26:15,046 --> 00:26:18,148
with Bush, and a foreign leader
recently who came away with...
516
00:26:18,150 --> 00:26:21,485
"The feeling that a decision has
been made to strike Iraq."
517
00:26:21,487 --> 00:26:23,786
Do you think we can get enough
to run the story?
518
00:26:23,788 --> 00:26:25,924
Unfortunately, I do.
519
00:26:38,804 --> 00:26:40,403
So much for the ceasefire.
520
00:26:40,405 --> 00:26:42,206
Yeah, well, really nice of us...
521
00:26:42,208 --> 00:26:44,844
to temporarily stop shooting
at them, though.
522
00:26:56,255 --> 00:26:59,022
♪ I've been bound up
and wound up ♪
523
00:26:59,024 --> 00:27:01,190
♪ Could barely get a sound up ♪
524
00:27:01,192 --> 00:27:02,993
♪ Been cheated mistreated ♪
525
00:27:02,995 --> 00:27:05,763
♪ Don't even want to
think of it ♪
526
00:27:05,765 --> 00:27:07,765
What are you up to, Smucker?
527
00:27:07,767 --> 00:27:11,001
You know, I tried to chat
with your translator today.
528
00:27:11,003 --> 00:27:12,535
Yeah, how'd that go?
529
00:27:12,537 --> 00:27:15,272
Well, for a guy who gets paid
to talk for a living...
530
00:27:15,274 --> 00:27:17,975
he was unusually quiet.
531
00:27:17,977 --> 00:27:20,310
He only talks to me.
532
00:27:20,312 --> 00:27:24,413
Really? And what'd he tell you?
533
00:27:24,415 --> 00:27:27,383
Dollar, I'll let you read
all about it.
534
00:27:27,385 --> 00:27:31,455
Let me see it.
535
00:27:31,457 --> 00:27:35,559
bin Laden's gone, isn't he?
536
00:27:35,561 --> 00:27:39,095
They missed him, didn't they?
537
00:27:39,097 --> 00:27:43,368
He was here and they fucking
missed him!
538
00:27:45,403 --> 00:27:47,236
A senior U.S.
military official...
539
00:27:47,238 --> 00:27:49,473
tells NBC News "Despite the
crushing defeat...
540
00:27:49,475 --> 00:27:51,408
"of Al Qaeda forces
at Tora Bora...
541
00:27:51,410 --> 00:27:54,410
"it's believed now that Osama
bin Laden has slipped...
542
00:27:54,412 --> 00:27:56,947
"across the border into
Pakistan, seeking refuge...
543
00:27:56,949 --> 00:27:58,515
"in a lawless no man's land...
544
00:27:58,517 --> 00:28:01,351
"ruled by renegade tribal
warlords."
545
00:28:01,353 --> 00:28:03,253
Oh, it's official...
546
00:28:03,255 --> 00:28:06,089
this is the saddest event
I've ever attended.
547
00:28:06,091 --> 00:28:08,057
I'm going back to my apartment,
drink a bottle of wine...
548
00:28:08,059 --> 00:28:09,325
and put my head in the oven.
549
00:28:09,327 --> 00:28:11,128
Okay, but before you do that...
550
00:28:11,130 --> 00:28:14,096
I really want you to meet the
guy I was telling you about.
551
00:28:14,098 --> 00:28:16,065
Oh! He just walked in!
552
00:28:16,067 --> 00:28:18,067
Forget the wine, I'll kill
myself now.
553
00:28:18,069 --> 00:28:22,371
No, not him... him.
I'll introduce you.
554
00:28:22,373 --> 00:28:23,506
Pam, please don't.
555
00:28:23,508 --> 00:28:26,409
- Warren! Hey!
- Oh, hi.
556
00:28:26,411 --> 00:28:28,211
Glad you could make it,
come on over.
557
00:28:28,213 --> 00:28:31,582
Warren, this is a
good friend of mine, Lisa Mayr.
558
00:28:31,584 --> 00:28:33,449
Lisa, this is Warren Strobel,
he's a journalist...
559
00:28:33,451 --> 00:28:35,121
and I'm gonna get another drink.
560
00:28:37,355 --> 00:28:39,022
Hi, uh, Lisa?
561
00:28:39,024 --> 00:28:40,457
- Yeah.
- Yeah, nice to meet you.
562
00:28:40,459 --> 00:28:42,128
- Hi.
- Uh...
563
00:28:43,461 --> 00:28:46,463
Did you ever make it
into your apartment?
564
00:28:46,465 --> 00:28:50,967
Uh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah,
no, no, no, I'm sorry.
565
00:28:50,969 --> 00:28:54,406
- Yeah, I made it in okay.
- Good. Good.
566
00:28:56,141 --> 00:28:58,274
So, you're a journalist?
567
00:28:58,276 --> 00:29:01,143
Yeah, yeah, for Knight Ridder.
568
00:29:01,145 --> 00:29:03,947
Oh, is that a magazine
or a newspaper?
569
00:29:03,949 --> 00:29:09,052
It's actually a consortium
of 31 newspapers, actually.
570
00:29:09,054 --> 00:29:10,586
Well, my stories go out to all
of our newspapers...
571
00:29:10,588 --> 00:29:14,091
and each one has the option
to publish or not.
572
00:29:14,093 --> 00:29:17,127
Oh, okay. I've always wondered
how that worked.
573
00:29:17,129 --> 00:29:18,430
Yeah.
574
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:25,669
Hey, I got married when
I was 22.
575
00:29:25,671 --> 00:29:29,339
And we're only recently
separated, so...
576
00:29:29,341 --> 00:29:31,941
This is a little awkward for me.
577
00:29:31,943 --> 00:29:33,310
It's okay.
578
00:29:33,312 --> 00:29:35,245
I'm a little out of practice.
579
00:29:35,247 --> 00:29:39,082
Why don't you start
by asking me a question?
580
00:29:39,084 --> 00:29:41,854
Sure, yeah.
581
00:29:43,655 --> 00:29:45,924
Are you a Republican
or a Democrat?
582
00:29:47,426 --> 00:29:49,258
Try again.
583
00:29:49,260 --> 00:29:52,295
Yeah, of course, she wants you
to call her.
584
00:29:52,297 --> 00:29:54,031
She gave you her card.
585
00:29:54,033 --> 00:29:56,166
No, maybe she's just trying
to gin up business.
586
00:29:56,168 --> 00:29:58,669
At a singles mixer
on Valentine's Day?
587
00:29:58,671 --> 00:30:00,938
What? So, call her? I should
call her?
588
00:30:00,940 --> 00:30:02,973
What? No, no, no,
actually, let her dangle.
589
00:30:02,975 --> 00:30:04,941
There's nothing a woman in her
30s likes more...
590
00:30:04,943 --> 00:30:07,177
than a guy who takes his time.
591
00:30:07,179 --> 00:30:09,012
I'm fine, Arthur, I'm fine.
592
00:30:09,014 --> 00:30:11,480
It's just that I'm getting a
little tired...
593
00:30:11,482 --> 00:30:13,417
of picking up your paper
every morning...
594
00:30:13,419 --> 00:30:15,384
and seeing that you're not
running our stories.
595
00:30:15,386 --> 00:30:17,219
I mean, last time I looked...
596
00:30:17,221 --> 00:30:21,057
The Philadelphia Inquirer was
a Knight Ridder paper, right?
597
00:30:21,059 --> 00:30:24,961
The point is, there's no point
in being a Knight Ridder paper..
598
00:30:24,963 --> 00:30:26,697
if you're not going to run
Knight Ridder stories.
599
00:30:26,699 --> 00:30:28,732
John, we've been through
this already.
600
00:30:28,734 --> 00:30:30,434
Your stories don't fit...
601
00:30:30,436 --> 00:30:33,269
in with what we're doing
over here right now.
602
00:30:33,271 --> 00:30:35,371
Don't fit? Don't fit with what?
The truth?
603
00:30:35,373 --> 00:30:37,274
What's the matter, Arthur...
604
00:30:37,276 --> 00:30:39,008
the truth doesn't sell
papers anymore?
605
00:30:39,010 --> 00:30:40,476
And today, for the
first time...
606
00:30:40,478 --> 00:30:42,278
the administration provided...
607
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,381
details for what it has always
insisted was a connection...
608
00:30:45,383 --> 00:30:48,150
between Saddam Hussein
and Al Qaeda.
609
00:30:48,152 --> 00:30:49,719
How strong is that case?
610
00:30:49,721 --> 00:30:52,022
Iraqi president
Saddam Hussein says...
611
00:30:52,024 --> 00:30:54,992
he does not have any illegal
weapons of mass destruction...
612
00:30:54,994 --> 00:30:58,195
and accused the United States
of using weapons...
613
00:30:58,197 --> 00:31:00,730
as a pretext to start a war.
614
00:31:00,732 --> 00:31:05,034
Mr. Galloway, how closely did
the movie conform to your book?
615
00:31:05,036 --> 00:31:08,438
The movie was about 80% accurate
and 20% bullshit...
616
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:12,411
which I guess by Hollywood
standards is an accomplishment.
617
00:31:14,013 --> 00:31:16,679
What inspired you to write
the book?
618
00:31:16,681 --> 00:31:19,082
Being shot at by the North
Vietnamese army.
619
00:31:19,084 --> 00:31:21,284
What was the biggest difference
between experiencing...
620
00:31:21,286 --> 00:31:25,589
the Battle of Ia Drang in person
versus watching it in a theater?
621
00:31:25,591 --> 00:31:27,493
The popcorn in Ia Drang was
saltier.
622
00:31:29,061 --> 00:31:30,427
Last question.
623
00:31:30,429 --> 00:31:32,528
Can you draw any comparisons
between Vietnam...
624
00:31:32,530 --> 00:31:35,131
and what's happening today
in Afghanistan?
625
00:31:35,133 --> 00:31:38,267
It's very different, but I think
it is appropriate...
626
00:31:38,269 --> 00:31:42,272
that before we start dropping
bombs, we think long and hard...
627
00:31:42,274 --> 00:31:45,042
about the greatest lesson
we got from Vietnam.
628
00:31:45,044 --> 00:31:46,676
Which is?
629
00:31:46,678 --> 00:31:51,247
When the government fucks up,
the soldiers pay the price.
630
00:31:51,249 --> 00:31:54,316
To what do I owe this
unexpected visit?
631
00:31:54,318 --> 00:31:56,652
Well, I was hoping I'd get
an autograph...
632
00:31:56,654 --> 00:31:59,255
from the world's most famous
war correspondent.
633
00:31:59,257 --> 00:32:03,259
I hate this part. Reporters are
not supposed to be the story.
634
00:32:03,261 --> 00:32:06,463
Reporters are not supposed to be
awarded the Bronze Star, either.
635
00:32:06,465 --> 00:32:08,832
How do you like the job
at State?
636
00:32:08,834 --> 00:32:10,467
I love working for General
Powell...
637
00:32:10,469 --> 00:32:12,134
and I hate working
for Uncle Sam.
638
00:32:12,136 --> 00:32:13,637
You miss reporting?
639
00:32:13,639 --> 00:32:15,471
After 42 years, I thought...
640
00:32:15,473 --> 00:32:17,274
I should take some time
away from it.
641
00:32:17,276 --> 00:32:20,744
So, I went to work at the State
Department on September 10th...
642
00:32:20,746 --> 00:32:23,112
and the next day the biggest
story of my life broke.
643
00:32:23,114 --> 00:32:25,782
I'd say there's a little bit
of a tug.
644
00:32:25,784 --> 00:32:29,518
We're working on something
important, that's why I'm here.
645
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,588
To make me envious?
646
00:32:31,590 --> 00:32:34,424
To make you an offer.
647
00:32:34,426 --> 00:32:37,726
If he gets weapons
of mass destruction, Jerry.
648
00:32:37,728 --> 00:32:39,795
What does that mean
for the world?
649
00:32:39,797 --> 00:32:41,531
What does that mean
for the Middle East?
650
00:32:41,533 --> 00:32:43,499
- Can you turn it down?
- I'm trying to watch the news.
651
00:32:43,501 --> 00:32:45,768
Stop calling it that.
652
00:32:45,770 --> 00:32:47,272
Hey, son.
653
00:32:52,311 --> 00:32:54,844
Adam, what's the matter?
654
00:32:54,846 --> 00:32:57,416
I met with a recruiter.
655
00:33:02,121 --> 00:33:04,390
A lot of people
are gonna die, Jerry.
656
00:33:08,392 --> 00:33:10,127
You know once you sign up...
657
00:33:10,129 --> 00:33:11,727
there's no changing your mind,
right?
658
00:33:11,729 --> 00:33:13,229
I know.
659
00:33:13,231 --> 00:33:14,864
What do you know?
You're just a kid.
660
00:33:14,866 --> 00:33:17,367
Whose country was attacked.
661
00:33:17,369 --> 00:33:19,636
Adam, I know you want to do what
you think is right...
662
00:33:19,638 --> 00:33:22,205
but war is not a video game.
663
00:33:22,207 --> 00:33:24,341
You have no idea what
you're getting into.
664
00:33:24,343 --> 00:33:26,711
I know exactly what
I'm getting into.
665
00:33:30,915 --> 00:33:33,149
Here.
666
00:33:33,151 --> 00:33:37,720
Show me where Afghanistan
is on this map.
667
00:33:37,722 --> 00:33:40,422
Show me.
668
00:33:40,424 --> 00:33:42,258
They're gonna send you halfway
around the world to fight...
669
00:33:42,260 --> 00:33:44,794
people you didn't even know
existed a year ago.
670
00:33:44,796 --> 00:33:47,496
If you know what you're
getting into...
671
00:33:47,498 --> 00:33:51,534
show me where Afghanistan
is on this map.
672
00:33:51,536 --> 00:33:54,603
Did anyone ever shove a map
in Dad's face...
673
00:33:54,605 --> 00:33:57,309
and ask him to find Vietnam?
674
00:34:03,614 --> 00:34:07,350
We now know that
Saddam has resumed...
675
00:34:07,352 --> 00:34:09,886
his efforts to acquire
nuclear weapons.
676
00:34:09,888 --> 00:34:12,688
Among other sources, we've
gotten this from firsthand...
677
00:34:12,690 --> 00:34:14,457
testimony from defectors.
678
00:34:14,459 --> 00:34:17,259
Many of us are convinced
that Saddam Hussein...
679
00:34:17,261 --> 00:34:19,962
will acquire nuclear weapons
fairly soon.
680
00:34:19,964 --> 00:34:23,799
Simply stated, there is no
doubt that Saddam Hussein...
681
00:34:23,801 --> 00:34:25,701
now has weapons of mass
destruction.
682
00:34:25,703 --> 00:34:28,605
They're dialing up
the rhetoric on Iraq.
683
00:34:28,607 --> 00:34:30,710
Let's see if we can nail
them down, okay?
684
00:34:32,777 --> 00:34:35,545
Twenty bucks, whoever gets
the best quote.
685
00:34:35,547 --> 00:34:38,480
No, no, no, you're such a child.
686
00:34:38,482 --> 00:34:39,616
You're such a pussy.
687
00:34:39,618 --> 00:34:41,217
I'm not taking your money.
688
00:34:41,219 --> 00:34:42,719
You get all bent out of shape
when you lose.
689
00:34:42,721 --> 00:34:44,487
I don't care. I'm just the same
when I win or lose.
690
00:34:44,489 --> 00:34:46,255
I'm not... it's not a bet,
all right, fine.
691
00:34:46,257 --> 00:34:47,857
Warren Strobel for Senator
Biden, please.
692
00:34:47,859 --> 00:34:49,692
Son of a bitch.
693
00:34:49,694 --> 00:34:52,362
Biden told Bush, "There's a
reason your father didn't go...
694
00:34:52,364 --> 00:34:53,529
"to Baghdad. He knew he would
have to stay...
695
00:34:53,531 --> 00:34:54,998
"for at least five years."
696
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,667
I got Michael O'Hanlon
at Brookings saying...
697
00:34:57,669 --> 00:35:00,306
"You definitely cannot
count on it being a cakewalk."
698
00:35:01,672 --> 00:35:03,672
We gotta hit it harder
than that.
699
00:35:03,674 --> 00:35:05,908
All right, well, hang on. I got
an official at the U.N...
700
00:35:05,910 --> 00:35:07,611
that says, "There's widespread
concern...
701
00:35:07,613 --> 00:35:09,779
"that this will destabilize
the whole Middle East."
702
00:35:09,781 --> 00:35:12,348
Let me see what you have.
703
00:35:12,350 --> 00:35:13,616
Well, wait, I got... I got...
704
00:35:13,618 --> 00:35:15,585
Just give it to me,
give, give, give.
705
00:35:15,587 --> 00:35:16,752
Okay.
706
00:35:16,754 --> 00:35:18,788
All right.
707
00:35:18,790 --> 00:35:22,460
Let's see here... all right.
708
00:36:08,873 --> 00:36:10,940
You guys are smart.
709
00:36:10,942 --> 00:36:13,509
You know what's unfolding here.
710
00:36:13,511 --> 00:36:17,515
Our readers need to know what
we've learned.
711
00:36:21,085 --> 00:36:24,721
"In the best case scenario, U.S.
troops could be stuck in Iraq...
712
00:36:24,723 --> 00:36:27,891
"for years trying to teach the
inner workings of democracy...
713
00:36:27,893 --> 00:36:31,761
"to a nation that has never
known it. In the worst case...
714
00:36:31,763 --> 00:36:35,732
"scenario, an invasion could
cause Iraq's fractious ethnic...
715
00:36:35,734 --> 00:36:38,567
"groups to break off into their
own mini-states...
716
00:36:38,569 --> 00:36:41,603
"trapping American combat forces
in the middle...
717
00:36:41,605 --> 00:36:44,276
"of a bloody civil war
for decades."
718
00:36:46,777 --> 00:36:48,745
Boss man's got balls.
719
00:36:48,747 --> 00:36:50,815
Yeah.
720
00:37:16,107 --> 00:37:25,047
Shit.
721
00:37:25,049 --> 00:37:26,382
Were those for me?
722
00:37:26,384 --> 00:37:29,886
No. Yes.
723
00:37:29,888 --> 00:37:34,556
But I thought it might be
a little, I don't know...
724
00:37:34,558 --> 00:37:36,658
a little too soon to be giving
each other gifts.
725
00:37:36,660 --> 00:37:38,594
It would've been all right.
726
00:37:38,596 --> 00:37:39,862
Okay.
727
00:37:39,864 --> 00:37:42,498
Well, I think they landed
on my car...
728
00:37:42,500 --> 00:37:44,533
so if you want to grab them
on the way to dinner...
729
00:37:44,535 --> 00:37:46,603
maybe we can do that?
730
00:37:46,605 --> 00:37:48,474
- Great.
- Great.
731
00:37:51,609 --> 00:37:54,777
Okay, so what was the most
embarrassing thing...
732
00:37:54,779 --> 00:37:56,348
you did to prepare for tonight?
733
00:37:59,116 --> 00:38:01,083
All right.
734
00:38:01,085 --> 00:38:03,585
I will admit, that to prepare
for tonight...
735
00:38:03,587 --> 00:38:05,721
I did kind of a cram session
on Iraq...
736
00:38:05,723 --> 00:38:08,725
and the history of the Muslim
world.
737
00:38:08,727 --> 00:38:09,859
Really?
738
00:38:09,861 --> 00:38:11,627
Yes.
739
00:38:11,629 --> 00:38:14,129
Now I know that 1400 years ago,
after the death of Muhammad...
740
00:38:14,131 --> 00:38:16,498
Muslims fought over who was to
be his rightful heir...
741
00:38:16,500 --> 00:38:18,167
and that caused a split
into two factions...
742
00:38:18,169 --> 00:38:19,569
the Sunnis and the Shiites.
743
00:38:19,571 --> 00:38:21,136
And they've been at war
ever since.
744
00:38:21,138 --> 00:38:23,172
Then, at the end of World War I,
the British and the French...
745
00:38:23,174 --> 00:38:26,141
arbitrarily divided the Arab
world into countries...
746
00:38:26,143 --> 00:38:28,143
putting the Sunni majority
in charge.
747
00:38:28,145 --> 00:38:32,882
But the country that became Iraq
is made up of only 20% Sunni.
748
00:38:32,884 --> 00:38:37,554
So, Saddam Hussein, a Sunni,
with an iron fist rules...
749
00:38:37,556 --> 00:38:38,987
the majority Shiite
population...
750
00:38:38,989 --> 00:38:42,558
and the 20% Kurdish population
in northern Iraq.
751
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,527
But if Saddam Hussein were
removed, it could possibly...
752
00:38:45,529 --> 00:38:48,096
reignite that 1400-year-old
sectarian war.
753
00:38:48,098 --> 00:38:50,199
Now, after reading your
stories...
754
00:38:50,201 --> 00:38:53,870
I know that Iran is the top
sponsor of terror, not Iraq.
755
00:38:53,872 --> 00:38:57,507
That a man named Ahmed Chalabi
seems to be a con artist...
756
00:38:57,509 --> 00:38:59,509
who wants to replace
Saddam Hussein.
757
00:38:59,511 --> 00:39:01,210
That the neo-cons in the Bush
Administration...
758
00:39:01,212 --> 00:39:02,846
are pushing for an invasion.
759
00:39:02,848 --> 00:39:06,482
And you are quickly becoming
my favorite writer.
760
00:39:06,484 --> 00:39:08,053
Wow.
761
00:39:12,122 --> 00:39:16,725
Um... I guess it's my turn.
762
00:39:16,727 --> 00:39:17,826
Give it to me.
763
00:39:17,828 --> 00:39:20,897
Okay, I will admit that...
764
00:39:20,899 --> 00:39:24,533
This is a little embarrassing.
765
00:39:24,535 --> 00:39:29,571
I asked my ex-wife to watch
my two sons tonight.
766
00:39:29,573 --> 00:39:31,140
Why is that embarrassing?
767
00:39:31,142 --> 00:39:33,076
Because a babysitter would
expect me home...
768
00:39:33,078 --> 00:39:37,013
at the end of the evening and...
769
00:39:37,015 --> 00:39:40,083
Should we get the check?
770
00:39:40,085 --> 00:39:43,553
Tell your boss we're gonna run
it whether he comments or not!
771
00:39:43,555 --> 00:39:46,656
Actually yes, it is a matter
of life and death!
772
00:39:46,658 --> 00:39:50,292
We're talking about going
to fucking war!
773
00:39:50,294 --> 00:39:52,730
Hello?
774
00:39:54,098 --> 00:39:56,866
I'm guessing that was
a no comment?
775
00:39:56,868 --> 00:39:59,067
What are you grinning
about?
776
00:39:59,069 --> 00:40:00,770
What? I'm not grinning.
777
00:40:00,772 --> 00:40:03,540
- You're grinning.
- I'm not grinning.
778
00:40:03,542 --> 00:40:04,908
- I'm not...
- What have you got over there?
779
00:40:04,910 --> 00:40:06,643
Relax! Don't worry about it.
780
00:40:06,645 --> 00:40:08,143
Oh my God, she could
do my taxes.
781
00:40:08,145 --> 00:40:10,045
All right, relax.
782
00:40:10,047 --> 00:40:12,685
- Strobel, Knight Ridder.
- Of course.
783
00:40:15,687 --> 00:40:17,819
Okay.
784
00:40:17,821 --> 00:40:20,123
All right, I'll be right there.
785
00:40:20,125 --> 00:40:22,094
Let's go, this could be
something.
786
00:40:26,997 --> 00:40:29,065
So, how does this work?
787
00:40:29,067 --> 00:40:32,171
Do you ask me questions or do
I just start talking?
788
00:40:33,270 --> 00:40:35,804
Why don't you just begin...
789
00:40:35,806 --> 00:40:37,205
and we'll ask the questions
when we have them.
790
00:40:37,207 --> 00:40:39,741
If it's off the record,
I have to say so, right?
791
00:40:39,743 --> 00:40:42,178
Do you want it to be
off the record?
792
00:40:42,180 --> 00:40:45,848
I want people to know what
I know, but not who I am.
793
00:40:45,850 --> 00:40:47,616
It'll be background.
794
00:40:47,618 --> 00:40:50,055
You'll be referred to
as a U.S. official.
795
00:40:56,962 --> 00:40:59,732
So, whatever you feel
comfortable telling us.
796
00:41:03,134 --> 00:41:06,335
I believe your prediction about
what could and will happen...
797
00:41:06,337 --> 00:41:08,904
if we go to war is spot on.
798
00:41:08,906 --> 00:41:11,641
And we're a lot closer
than you think.
799
00:41:11,643 --> 00:41:13,208
How close?
800
00:41:13,210 --> 00:41:16,279
A secret war planning group
with a parallel intelligence...
801
00:41:16,281 --> 00:41:18,880
operation has been set up
to bypass...
802
00:41:18,882 --> 00:41:21,150
the rest of the
intelligence community.
803
00:41:21,152 --> 00:41:22,685
How do you know this?
804
00:41:22,687 --> 00:41:25,120
They meet in the building
where I work.
805
00:41:25,122 --> 00:41:27,123
And which building is that?
806
00:41:27,125 --> 00:41:31,861
The one with the five sides.
807
00:41:31,863 --> 00:41:32,962
But you're not a part
of that unit?
808
00:41:32,964 --> 00:41:34,196
No.
809
00:41:34,198 --> 00:41:35,832
So, how do you know about this?
810
00:41:35,834 --> 00:41:38,100
My desk is across the hall.
811
00:41:38,102 --> 00:41:40,402
What office do you work for?
812
00:41:40,404 --> 00:41:45,007
Near East South Asia division,
but you can't disclose that.
813
00:41:45,009 --> 00:41:47,009
You're an analyst?
814
00:41:47,011 --> 00:41:51,047
Yes... but you can't disclose
that, either.
815
00:41:51,049 --> 00:41:53,315
I'm speaking to you because
I'm an American citizen...
816
00:41:53,317 --> 00:41:55,917
and I don't like what these
people are doing.
817
00:41:55,919 --> 00:41:59,288
Half a dozen men, most of whom
have never served...
818
00:41:59,290 --> 00:42:01,424
in the military are making
decisions...
819
00:42:01,426 --> 00:42:04,893
based on shoddy intelligence,
and those decisions...
820
00:42:04,895 --> 00:42:07,362
will impact our men
and women in uniform.
821
00:42:07,364 --> 00:42:14,670
And as someone who has worn that
uniform, I can't remain silent.
822
00:42:14,672 --> 00:42:19,975
You said shoddy intelligence.
What do you mean by that?
823
00:42:19,977 --> 00:42:23,078
They've designed a process
that doesn't conform...
824
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:26,248
to any basic tenet
of intelligence gathering.
825
00:42:26,250 --> 00:42:27,750
In what way?
826
00:42:27,752 --> 00:42:29,951
A decision is made,
then the intelligence...
827
00:42:29,953 --> 00:42:33,388
is sought to support
that decision.
828
00:42:33,390 --> 00:42:34,991
How do you know this?
829
00:42:34,993 --> 00:42:37,993
They have no interest
in Arabic speakers.
830
00:42:37,995 --> 00:42:40,797
Israelis come in without
passes...
831
00:42:40,799 --> 00:42:43,966
without even being entered
into a security log.
832
00:42:43,968 --> 00:42:47,103
And for years the government has
been funding a group...
833
00:42:47,105 --> 00:42:51,473
of exiled dissidents called the
Iraqi National Congress.
834
00:42:51,475 --> 00:42:53,710
Led by Ahmad Chalabi, we know.
835
00:42:53,712 --> 00:42:56,745
Who they want to install
as the new leader of Iraq.
836
00:42:56,747 --> 00:42:58,815
Yeah, we've been trying to get
a meeting with him.
837
00:42:58,817 --> 00:43:01,085
Do you know who set up
this operation?
838
00:43:04,955 --> 00:43:07,890
Donald Rumsfeld.
839
00:43:07,892 --> 00:43:09,958
Is there any evidence to
indicate that Iraq...
840
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:14,429
has attempted to or is willing
to supply terrorists...
841
00:43:14,431 --> 00:43:16,732
with weapons of mass
destruction?
842
00:43:16,734 --> 00:43:21,203
The reports that say that
something hasn't happened...
843
00:43:21,205 --> 00:43:24,841
are always interesting to me
because as we know...
844
00:43:24,843 --> 00:43:29,078
there are known knowns, there
are things we know we know.
845
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,413
We also know there are known
unknowns.
846
00:43:31,415 --> 00:43:34,951
That is to say, we know there
are some things we do not know.
847
00:43:34,953 --> 00:43:37,487
But there are also unknown
unknowns.
848
00:43:37,489 --> 00:43:39,321
The one's we don't know
we don't know.
849
00:43:39,323 --> 00:43:41,891
We're working on a theory that
the administration...
850
00:43:41,893 --> 00:43:43,391
has already decided to go
to war...
851
00:43:43,393 --> 00:43:45,328
and is now focused on how
to justify it.
852
00:43:45,330 --> 00:43:47,196
It's not a theory.
853
00:43:47,198 --> 00:43:49,766
We've also been told by a number
of individuals that...
854
00:43:49,768 --> 00:43:52,835
Rumsfeld's the one spearheading
this intelligence gathering.
855
00:43:52,837 --> 00:43:55,237
I wouldn't exactly
call it intelligence gathering.
856
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,272
It's more like
intelligence cherry picking.
857
00:43:57,274 --> 00:43:58,940
And if they don't find
any cherries...
858
00:43:58,942 --> 00:44:00,509
they just grab a piece
of shit...
859
00:44:00,511 --> 00:44:03,879
and they paint it red, and they
stick it in a Shirley Temple.
860
00:44:03,881 --> 00:44:07,250
You seem irritated.
861
00:44:07,252 --> 00:44:09,919
I'm out there looking for
weapons that might not exist...
862
00:44:09,921 --> 00:44:12,487
to justify a war that might
not be wise.
863
00:44:12,489 --> 00:44:17,025
And have you found any evidence
of WMD?
864
00:44:17,027 --> 00:44:18,895
No, sir.
865
00:44:18,897 --> 00:44:21,029
But Saddam is looking to acquire
nukes, right?
866
00:44:21,031 --> 00:44:23,966
Yeah, and I'm trying to fuck
Jennifer Lopez, but I have...
867
00:44:23,968 --> 00:44:26,234
a sinking feeling that neither
of those things is gonna happen.
868
00:44:26,236 --> 00:44:31,040
So, we won't use your identity,
but can we get a quote?
869
00:44:31,042 --> 00:44:32,808
Sure.
870
00:44:32,810 --> 00:44:34,976
Have you found anything to
support the administration's...
871
00:44:34,978 --> 00:44:38,446
theory that Saddam is close to
or has acquired nuclear weapons?
872
00:44:38,448 --> 00:44:40,016
We've searched every cave...
873
00:44:40,018 --> 00:44:42,451
and looked up every camel's ass
in Iraq.
874
00:44:42,453 --> 00:44:47,292
So, here's your quote,
"no fucking way."
875
00:44:49,194 --> 00:44:51,027
Might have to clean
that up a bit.
876
00:44:51,029 --> 00:44:54,129
Quite colorful, though.
877
00:44:54,131 --> 00:44:55,263
Uh, honey, I think someone...
878
00:44:55,265 --> 00:44:56,966
is stealing our New York Times.
879
00:44:56,968 --> 00:44:58,301
I canceled it.
880
00:44:58,303 --> 00:45:00,169
Why would you do that?
881
00:45:00,171 --> 00:45:01,437
It's propaganda.
882
00:45:01,439 --> 00:45:03,239
I need that for my work.
883
00:45:03,241 --> 00:45:05,607
It's packaging press releases
from the White House...
884
00:45:05,609 --> 00:45:07,609
the State Department, and the
Pentagon.
885
00:45:07,611 --> 00:45:09,514
Sorry, that's not a real
newspaper.
886
00:45:16,421 --> 00:45:18,987
How was your day?
887
00:45:18,989 --> 00:45:21,257
Warren and I met with some
gentleman...
888
00:45:21,259 --> 00:45:23,592
from the intelligence community
who confirmed that...
889
00:45:23,594 --> 00:45:25,627
there's no real evidence
to support...
890
00:45:25,629 --> 00:45:28,966
the administration's
claim on WMD.
891
00:45:31,435 --> 00:45:34,203
What have I been telling you?
892
00:45:34,205 --> 00:45:38,477
Well, unfortunately, I can't use
your gut as a reliable source.
893
00:45:43,448 --> 00:45:46,449
You know, this is what they do.
They lie.
894
00:45:46,451 --> 00:45:49,421
Yeah, and we try to hold
them accountable.
895
00:45:52,656 --> 00:45:55,324
I hope I'm wrong. I really,
really do.
896
00:45:55,326 --> 00:45:58,460
But the Bush Administration,
they don't care about the truth.
897
00:45:58,462 --> 00:46:01,196
They don't even respond to your
articles.
898
00:46:01,198 --> 00:46:04,299
If they want a war, they're
gonna get one.
899
00:46:04,301 --> 00:46:07,002
And there's nothing that you
or the first amendment...
900
00:46:07,004 --> 00:46:08,439
is gonna do to stop them.
901
00:46:22,319 --> 00:46:24,222
Extra, extra, read all about it.
902
00:46:30,428 --> 00:46:34,297
"Over the past 14 months, Iraq
has tried to buy thousands...
903
00:46:34,299 --> 00:46:37,500
"of specially design aluminum
tubes, which American...
904
00:46:37,502 --> 00:46:39,534
"officials believe were intended
as components...
905
00:46:39,536 --> 00:46:43,471
"of centrifuges to enrich
uranium."
906
00:46:43,473 --> 00:46:45,241
Well, one thing's for sure.
907
00:46:45,243 --> 00:46:46,676
What's that?
908
00:46:46,678 --> 00:46:49,181
We can't both be right.
909
00:46:52,683 --> 00:46:54,016
Who're you calling?
910
00:46:54,018 --> 00:46:55,951
Loose Nukes.
911
00:46:55,953 --> 00:46:57,520
If she wouldn't talk to you
about going into Iraq...
912
00:46:57,522 --> 00:47:00,121
what makes you think she's gonna
go on the record on WMD?
913
00:47:00,123 --> 00:47:03,127
Charm Offensive. Watch and
learn, son.
914
00:47:07,198 --> 00:47:08,667
Landay.
915
00:47:11,368 --> 00:47:14,469
- It's Joe Galloway.
- Wow.
916
00:47:14,471 --> 00:47:16,605
Man even walks like he has
a Bronze Star.
917
00:47:16,607 --> 00:47:17,973
Hello.
918
00:47:17,975 --> 00:47:20,275
Oh, hi, yeah, it's Landay.
919
00:47:20,277 --> 00:47:21,576
Hello, Jonathan.
920
00:47:21,578 --> 00:47:27,382
Hi. Crazy weather we're having,
huh?
921
00:47:27,384 --> 00:47:29,417
You're calling me to chat
about the weather?
922
00:47:29,419 --> 00:47:34,056
No, no, yeah. Actually, I wanted
to ask you about WMD.
923
00:47:34,058 --> 00:47:35,623
It'll be deep, deep background.
924
00:47:35,625 --> 00:47:37,292
Goodbye, Jonathan.
925
00:47:37,294 --> 00:47:40,228
No wait, don't hang up.
926
00:47:40,230 --> 00:47:44,199
That Charm Offensive...
that's formidable.
927
00:47:44,201 --> 00:47:48,471
Listen, we need you here.
928
00:47:48,473 --> 00:47:51,172
You've developed sources over
the years that have access...
929
00:47:51,174 --> 00:47:54,210
that Landay and Strobel
just can't get.
930
00:47:54,212 --> 00:47:55,611
I'll make it easy on you.
931
00:47:55,613 --> 00:47:57,413
I'll give you a column...
932
00:47:57,415 --> 00:48:01,449
and your name doesn't have to
appear on anything else.
933
00:48:01,451 --> 00:48:04,286
Whatever else you want to write
on the side, you can...
934
00:48:04,288 --> 00:48:06,554
and of course, there won't be
any glory, but...
935
00:48:06,556 --> 00:48:08,727
Glory's for young men.
936
00:48:11,361 --> 00:48:13,462
Let me percolate on it.
937
00:48:13,464 --> 00:48:15,531
Let me turn to the issue
of Iraq.
938
00:48:15,533 --> 00:48:18,567
You have said that it poses...
939
00:48:18,569 --> 00:48:20,803
a mortal threat to the
United States.
940
00:48:20,805 --> 00:48:24,406
How? Define "mortal threat."
941
00:48:24,408 --> 00:48:29,210
Well, this'll take some time,
but it's important for us...
942
00:48:29,212 --> 00:48:31,112
as I mentioned earlier...
943
00:48:31,114 --> 00:48:34,049
to remember that the world
has changed, that prior to...
944
00:48:34,051 --> 00:48:35,784
I'd forgotten the world
had changed.
945
00:48:35,786 --> 00:48:37,719
So did I. I'm so happy he
mentioned that.
946
00:48:37,721 --> 00:48:41,357
What, specifically, has he
obtained that you believe...
947
00:48:41,359 --> 00:48:43,792
would enhance his nuclear
development program?
948
00:48:43,794 --> 00:48:45,828
Well, in the nuclear weapons
arena...
949
00:48:45,830 --> 00:48:48,630
you've got specifically
aluminum tubes.
950
00:48:48,632 --> 00:48:50,399
There's a story in The New York
Times this morning...
951
00:48:50,401 --> 00:48:53,502
this is and I want to attribute
to The Times.
952
00:48:53,504 --> 00:48:55,437
I don't want to talk about,
obviously...
953
00:48:55,439 --> 00:48:58,607
specific intelligence sources,
but it's now public that...
954
00:48:58,609 --> 00:49:03,645
in fact he has been seeking to
acquire, and we have been...
955
00:49:03,647 --> 00:49:06,449
able to intercept and prevent
him from acquiring...
956
00:49:06,451 --> 00:49:08,150
through this particular
channel...
957
00:49:08,152 --> 00:49:10,286
the kinds of tubes that are
necessary...
958
00:49:10,288 --> 00:49:12,087
to build a centrifuge.
959
00:49:12,089 --> 00:49:15,123
And the centrifuge is required
to take low-grade uranium...
960
00:49:15,125 --> 00:49:18,560
and enhance it into highly
enriched uranium...
961
00:49:18,562 --> 00:49:21,330
which is what you have to have
in order to build a bomb.
962
00:49:21,332 --> 00:49:23,866
Lucky for him, someone leaked
that to The Times.
963
00:49:23,868 --> 00:49:27,169
Avoids the pesky nuisance
of being arrested...
964
00:49:27,171 --> 00:49:28,804
for revealing classified
information.
965
00:49:28,806 --> 00:49:30,839
One can only wonder how Judy
Miller and Michael Gordon...
966
00:49:30,841 --> 00:49:31,873
got that information.
967
00:49:31,875 --> 00:49:35,578
Does it bother you, bug you...
968
00:49:35,580 --> 00:49:38,714
that you have not captured
Osama bin Laden in over a year?
969
00:49:38,716 --> 00:49:45,453
I'd like to see him on
television in handcuffs...
970
00:49:45,455 --> 00:49:47,489
if I can put it
into those terms.
971
00:49:47,491 --> 00:49:49,458
I think all of us would.
972
00:49:49,460 --> 00:49:53,228
But I don't lay awake at night
concerned about that.
973
00:49:53,230 --> 00:49:55,563
There's one school of thought
that says he's already dead.
974
00:49:55,565 --> 00:49:57,165
We haven't heard anything
of him in many months.
975
00:49:57,167 --> 00:49:58,533
What do you think?
976
00:49:58,535 --> 00:49:59,634
I don't know, I really
don't know.
977
00:49:59,636 --> 00:50:01,569
I can argue it round or flat.
978
00:50:01,571 --> 00:50:04,172
I didn't know we were still
debating the shape of the earth.
979
00:50:04,174 --> 00:50:06,143
I've got sources on both sides.
980
00:50:08,212 --> 00:50:10,645
But the U.S. military would be
enormously effective...
981
00:50:10,647 --> 00:50:12,515
in this circumstance.
982
00:50:12,517 --> 00:50:15,451
And I don't think it would be
that tough a fight.
983
00:50:15,453 --> 00:50:17,386
That is, I don't think there's
any question...
984
00:50:17,388 --> 00:50:19,221
that we would prevail and we
would achieve our objective.
985
00:50:19,223 --> 00:50:21,656
Landay.
986
00:50:21,658 --> 00:50:24,292
Yeah?
987
00:50:24,294 --> 00:50:26,630
We are right, aren't we?
988
00:50:28,866 --> 00:50:30,835
Everybody, listen up.
989
00:50:34,839 --> 00:50:36,808
We're not NBC.
990
00:50:38,276 --> 00:50:40,341
We're not ABC. We're not CBS.
991
00:50:40,343 --> 00:50:43,347
We're not FOX. We're not CNN.
992
00:50:44,482 --> 00:50:46,582
We're not The New York Times.
993
00:50:46,584 --> 00:50:48,553
We're not The Washington Post.
994
00:50:50,453 --> 00:50:52,423
We are Knight Ridder.
995
00:50:56,527 --> 00:51:02,598
We have readers who live in
towns with military bases.
996
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:06,335
Fort Benning, Fort Bragg,
Fort Jackson...
997
00:51:06,337 --> 00:51:12,674
and over 40 other military bases
throughout this country.
998
00:51:12,676 --> 00:51:17,446
If every other news organization
wants to be stenographers...
999
00:51:17,448 --> 00:51:20,518
for the Bush administration,
let them.
1000
00:51:22,786 --> 00:51:26,658
We don't write for people who
send other people's kids to war.
1001
00:51:28,725 --> 00:51:33,198
We write for people
whose kids get sent to war.
1002
00:51:35,866 --> 00:51:38,333
So, when the government
says something...
1003
00:51:38,335 --> 00:51:40,839
you only have one question
to ask.
1004
00:51:44,341 --> 00:51:46,277
Is it true?
1005
00:51:52,450 --> 00:51:54,386
I'm through percolating.
1006
00:51:57,488 --> 00:51:59,420
Let's get to work.
1007
00:51:59,422 --> 00:52:01,690
Administration officials spanned
out on the Sunday talk shows...
1008
00:52:01,692 --> 00:52:03,926
to make the case for an invasion
of Iraq.
1009
00:52:03,928 --> 00:52:06,895
Who else is involved in
The Office of Special Planning?
1010
00:52:06,897 --> 00:52:10,598
Wolfowitz, Feith, couple others.
1011
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:12,967
Instead of listening to people
who have spent their careers...
1012
00:52:12,969 --> 00:52:16,804
evaluating threats, they're
streaming questionable intel...
1013
00:52:16,806 --> 00:52:18,707
from unreliable sources and
taking it...
1014
00:52:18,709 --> 00:52:20,509
directly to the White House.
1015
00:52:20,511 --> 00:52:22,745
George Tenet, Director
of Central Intelligence...
1016
00:52:22,747 --> 00:52:25,346
told Senators, he could not
rule out cooperation...
1017
00:52:25,348 --> 00:52:26,617
between Osama bin Laden
and Al Qaeda.
1018
00:52:29,386 --> 00:52:31,587
I've seen the specs on those
aluminum tubes.
1019
00:52:31,589 --> 00:52:33,621
They're too small to be used
for enriching uranium.
1020
00:52:33,623 --> 00:52:35,024
What does that mean?
1021
00:52:35,026 --> 00:52:36,792
They can't be used
for a nuclear bomb.
1022
00:52:36,794 --> 00:52:38,594
The President
of the United States...
1023
00:52:38,596 --> 00:52:39,928
said we're not going to permit
nations to develop...
1024
00:52:39,930 --> 00:52:41,897
weapons of mass destruction...
1025
00:52:41,899 --> 00:52:43,699
as they're gonna supply those
weapons to a network...
1026
00:52:43,701 --> 00:52:45,366
of terrorism that could attack
the United States.
1027
00:52:45,368 --> 00:52:47,870
Cheney is trying to shut
out Powell.
1028
00:52:47,872 --> 00:52:49,471
Where'd you get this stuff?
1029
00:52:49,473 --> 00:52:51,339
Old friend.
1030
00:52:51,341 --> 00:52:53,375
We're starting to
see a consensus from within...
1031
00:52:53,377 --> 00:52:55,377
the administration for the
removal of Saddam Hussein.
1032
00:52:55,379 --> 00:52:57,379
The
administration has pointed...
1033
00:52:57,381 --> 00:52:59,681
to a secret meeting in Prague
between Iraqi intelligence...
1034
00:52:59,683 --> 00:53:01,449
and 9/11 hijacker,
Mohamed Atta.
1035
00:53:01,451 --> 00:53:03,419
Bush administration is pressing
the United Nations...
1036
00:53:03,421 --> 00:53:05,554
Security Council for
a resolution...
1037
00:53:05,556 --> 00:53:07,455
to put pressure on Iraq.
1038
00:53:07,457 --> 00:53:09,424
President Bush will address
the United Nations today...
1039
00:53:09,426 --> 00:53:11,759
in hopes of putting together
a multi-national coalition...
1040
00:53:11,761 --> 00:53:13,594
to disarm Saddam Hussein.
1041
00:53:13,596 --> 00:53:15,698
The White House is lobbying
Congress to authorize...
1042
00:53:15,700 --> 00:53:17,799
the use of force in Iraq.
1043
00:53:17,801 --> 00:53:19,868
The minute these guys get
their hands on anything...
1044
00:53:19,870 --> 00:53:21,536
remotely resembling evidence...
1045
00:53:21,538 --> 00:53:23,471
they leak it to
The New York Times.
1046
00:53:23,473 --> 00:53:24,873
Now, I understand the position
you're in...
1047
00:53:24,875 --> 00:53:27,509
but please don't hang up on me.
1048
00:53:27,511 --> 00:53:28,976
Okay.
1049
00:53:28,978 --> 00:53:32,547
Okay, the vice president
of the United States...
1050
00:53:32,549 --> 00:53:35,984
went to the V.F.W. and said that
Saddam Hussein...
1051
00:53:35,986 --> 00:53:38,953
is on the threshold of
developing a nuclear weapon.
1052
00:53:38,955 --> 00:53:41,556
Then he goes on national
television...
1053
00:53:41,558 --> 00:53:42,790
and says the same thing.
1054
00:53:42,792 --> 00:53:46,060
Your question?
1055
00:53:46,062 --> 00:53:49,498
Ask the question.
1056
00:53:49,500 --> 00:53:52,533
What I want to know is,
is Dick Cheney ignoring...
1057
00:53:52,535 --> 00:53:55,103
good intelligence that
contradicts his assumptions...
1058
00:53:55,105 --> 00:53:59,074
or is he just getting bad
intelligence?
1059
00:53:59,076 --> 00:54:02,681
The vice president is lying.
1060
00:54:04,881 --> 00:54:06,781
Thank you, thank you so much.
1061
00:54:06,783 --> 00:54:09,051
What? What, what, what?
What'd she say?
1062
00:54:09,053 --> 00:54:10,786
He's lying.
1063
00:54:10,788 --> 00:54:12,788
- He's lying.
- Cheney is lying.
1064
00:54:12,790 --> 00:54:14,989
- Cheney's lying!
- Cheney's lying!
1065
00:54:14,991 --> 00:54:17,525
- He's lying! John!
- He's lying!
1066
00:54:17,527 --> 00:54:19,627
John!
1067
00:54:19,629 --> 00:54:20,862
Where the hell is he?
1068
00:54:20,864 --> 00:54:22,531
Here we go. Here we go.
1069
00:54:22,533 --> 00:54:24,466
- He's lying.
- He's lying.
1070
00:54:24,468 --> 00:54:26,435
Cheney's lying.
1071
00:54:26,437 --> 00:54:27,870
Where did this come from?
1072
00:54:27,872 --> 00:54:29,538
Loose Nukes.
1073
00:54:29,540 --> 00:54:31,440
Okay.
1074
00:54:31,442 --> 00:54:33,808
Now, we know what's being talk
about, we got to get inside...
1075
00:54:33,810 --> 00:54:36,812
those meetings and find out if
there's a dissenting opinion.
1076
00:54:36,814 --> 00:54:38,614
I may have a guy.
1077
00:54:38,616 --> 00:54:40,047
Anybody we know?
1078
00:54:40,049 --> 00:54:41,652
The Usual Suspect.
1079
00:54:52,897 --> 00:54:54,862
You didn't want to do
this in a parking garage?
1080
00:54:54,864 --> 00:54:57,498
If there was one that served
Pad Thai, I would.
1081
00:54:57,500 --> 00:54:59,902
How's civilian life?
1082
00:54:59,904 --> 00:55:02,504
My retirement lasted about
four hours.
1083
00:55:02,506 --> 00:55:04,205
You're with Knight Ridder?
1084
00:55:04,207 --> 00:55:06,574
I don't even have a desk yet.
How the hell do you know that?
1085
00:55:06,576 --> 00:55:08,076
I have my ways.
1086
00:55:08,078 --> 00:55:09,944
You been following what we're
doing over there?
1087
00:55:09,946 --> 00:55:11,179
Yes, I have.
1088
00:55:11,181 --> 00:55:12,681
And?
1089
00:55:12,683 --> 00:55:14,449
You two may be singlehandedly
saving...
1090
00:55:14,451 --> 00:55:17,553
the Fourth Estate from
extinction.
1091
00:55:17,555 --> 00:55:20,221
Mainstream media hasn't picked
up a thing we been running.
1092
00:55:20,223 --> 00:55:21,857
Should be all the confirmation
you need...
1093
00:55:21,859 --> 00:55:23,094
that you're onto something.
1094
00:55:26,062 --> 00:55:28,696
What can I do for you?
1095
00:55:28,698 --> 00:55:30,732
We need some help with the
higher ups.
1096
00:55:30,734 --> 00:55:31,732
How high?
1097
00:55:31,734 --> 00:55:33,469
High as you can get us.
1098
00:55:33,471 --> 00:55:35,170
You've been around a long time,
Joe.
1099
00:55:35,172 --> 00:55:37,672
I doubt there's anything there
that'll surprise you.
1100
00:55:37,674 --> 00:55:39,475
I was married one time
to a woman who thought...
1101
00:55:39,477 --> 00:55:41,643
New Hampshire was the capital
of Massachusetts.
1102
00:55:41,645 --> 00:55:44,612
There's always something you
don't see coming.
1103
00:55:44,614 --> 00:55:47,949
What do you want to know?
1104
00:55:47,951 --> 00:55:51,053
Everything the administration
doesn't want us to know.
1105
00:55:51,055 --> 00:55:54,459
You and I are going to be eating
a lot of Pad Thai.
1106
00:55:59,497 --> 00:56:01,496
What kind of time frame
are we looking at?
1107
00:56:01,498 --> 00:56:02,897
Next month, Congress
is scheduled to vote...
1108
00:56:02,899 --> 00:56:04,165
on whether or not to give
the president...
1109
00:56:04,167 --> 00:56:05,868
the authorization to go to war.
1110
00:56:05,870 --> 00:56:06,935
Are the votes there?
1111
00:56:06,937 --> 00:56:08,603
The administration thinks so.
1112
00:56:08,605 --> 00:56:14,009
Mr. President, 38 years ago,
I, Robert C. Byrd...
1113
00:56:14,011 --> 00:56:17,612
voted on the Tonkin Gulf
Resolution.
1114
00:56:17,614 --> 00:56:21,149
The resolution that authorized
the president to use military...
1115
00:56:21,151 --> 00:56:23,150
force to repel armed attacks...
1116
00:56:23,152 --> 00:56:27,589
and to prevent further communist
aggression in Southeast Asia.
1117
00:56:27,591 --> 00:56:31,225
A joint resolution to authorize
the use of United States...
1118
00:56:31,227 --> 00:56:34,730
armed forces against Iraq should
be brought to a close.
1119
00:56:34,732 --> 00:56:36,931
The clerk will call the roll.
1120
00:56:36,933 --> 00:56:39,134
Mr. Biden, aye.
1121
00:56:39,136 --> 00:56:41,169
Mrs. Clinton, aye.
1122
00:56:41,171 --> 00:56:43,638
It was this resolution that
provided the basis...
1123
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:47,542
for American involvement
in the war in Vietnam.
1124
00:56:47,544 --> 00:56:49,877
Mr. Kerry, aye.
1125
00:56:49,879 --> 00:56:52,047
Mr. Lieberman, aye.
1126
00:56:52,049 --> 00:56:54,016
Mr. Lott, aye.
1127
00:56:54,018 --> 00:56:55,951
It was this resolution...
1128
00:56:55,953 --> 00:57:00,989
that lead to the deaths
of 58,000 Americans.
1129
00:57:00,991 --> 00:57:03,324
Mr. McCain, aye.
1130
00:57:03,326 --> 00:57:05,560
Mr. McConnell, aye.
1131
00:57:05,562 --> 00:57:10,699
After all that carnage, we began
to learn that in voting...
1132
00:57:10,701 --> 00:57:12,768
for the Tonkin Gulf
resolution...
1133
00:57:12,770 --> 00:57:15,904
we were basing our votes
on bad information.
1134
00:57:15,906 --> 00:57:18,172
And history is repeating itself.
1135
00:57:18,174 --> 00:57:20,308
Mr. Santorum, aye.
1136
00:57:20,310 --> 00:57:23,679
I urge senators to go down
on the Capital Mall...
1137
00:57:23,681 --> 00:57:26,181
and look at the Vietnam
Memorial.
1138
00:57:26,183 --> 00:57:29,250
Nearly every day, you will find
someone at that wall...
1139
00:57:29,252 --> 00:57:31,587
weeping for a loved one.
1140
00:57:31,589 --> 00:57:33,654
Mr. Sessions, aye.
1141
00:57:33,656 --> 00:57:36,158
I will always remember the words
of Senator Wayne Morse.
1142
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:38,627
Mr. Specter, aye.
1143
00:57:38,629 --> 00:57:40,895
He stated, "The resolution will
pass and senators...
1144
00:57:40,897 --> 00:57:44,632
"who vote for it will live
to regret it."
1145
00:57:44,634 --> 00:57:46,667
We got K-10, we got Dixie,
we don't need another source.
1146
00:57:46,669 --> 00:57:48,270
You know we got this.
1147
00:57:48,272 --> 00:57:50,237
Look, when you're accusing the
secretary of defense...
1148
00:57:50,239 --> 00:57:52,107
of running a shadow
intelligence unit...
1149
00:57:52,109 --> 00:57:54,676
out of the Pentagon, it's nice
to have a little insurance.
1150
00:57:54,678 --> 00:57:55,913
That's all I'm saying.
1151
00:57:59,984 --> 00:58:02,350
All right, let's share it
with the rest of the class.
1152
00:58:02,352 --> 00:58:04,085
You want to tell them?
1153
00:58:04,087 --> 00:58:07,723
Earlier today, I was summoned
to the Pentagon.
1154
00:58:07,725 --> 00:58:09,056
By whom?
1155
00:58:09,058 --> 00:58:12,127
Rumsfeld, Ol' Limp Dick
sent a message saying...
1156
00:58:12,129 --> 00:58:13,929
"All your sources are retired
generals."
1157
00:58:13,931 --> 00:58:15,864
And I said, "All due respect,
sir...
1158
00:58:15,866 --> 00:58:18,799
"80% of my sources are
active military."
1159
00:58:18,801 --> 00:58:20,636
"Some of them are working
in this building...
1160
00:58:20,638 --> 00:58:22,837
"and some of them are actually
working on your staff."
1161
00:58:22,839 --> 00:58:25,806
"And hell, one or two of them
might even be in this room."
1162
00:58:25,808 --> 00:58:27,942
Did you actually have sources
in the room?
1163
00:58:27,944 --> 00:58:31,082
No, but it was fun watching him
sweat like whores in church.
1164
00:58:33,817 --> 00:58:35,783
How close are we to getting
something we can run with
1165
00:58:35,785 --> 00:58:37,185
on the Office of Special Plans?
1166
00:58:37,187 --> 00:58:39,020
Well, we already got...
1167
00:58:39,022 --> 00:58:41,656
No, we're just gonna check
with a couple more sources.
1168
00:58:41,658 --> 00:58:43,658
What's wrong with the sources
you have?
1169
00:58:43,660 --> 00:58:46,094
Well, we just want to be
certain.
1170
00:58:46,096 --> 00:58:49,096
You know, you sit on a story
like this, the dam bursts.
1171
00:58:49,098 --> 00:58:51,001
Let's just move on this,
okay, boys?
1172
00:58:54,904 --> 00:58:56,237
When are you gonna be finished?
1173
00:58:56,239 --> 00:59:00,243
Just a few more minutes, baby.
1174
00:59:02,846 --> 00:59:06,781
I can't sleep with the computer
light on.
1175
00:59:06,783 --> 00:59:09,219
Actually, I'm done.
1176
00:59:13,690 --> 00:59:17,025
So, what are you working on?
1177
00:59:17,027 --> 00:59:19,828
Rumsfeld has a secret Intel
group that's going...
1178
00:59:19,830 --> 00:59:24,835
around the CIA to manufacture
a case for war.
1179
00:59:29,239 --> 00:59:31,440
What the fuck, Jonathan?
1180
00:59:31,442 --> 00:59:33,107
What?
1181
00:59:33,109 --> 00:59:35,078
Have you been talking about this
on the phone?
1182
00:59:37,281 --> 00:59:38,779
Yeah, of course.
1183
00:59:38,781 --> 00:59:40,651
So, what?
1184
00:59:43,187 --> 00:59:47,188
- They will hear you.
- Vlatka.
1185
00:59:47,190 --> 00:59:49,824
You're writing about infighting
between spy agencies.
1186
00:59:49,826 --> 00:59:50,926
So?
1187
00:59:50,928 --> 00:59:53,328
They're spy agencies, Jonathan.
1188
00:59:53,330 --> 00:59:55,964
They listen to your calls,
they read your emails.
1189
00:59:55,966 --> 00:59:57,966
They probably bugged this house.
1190
00:59:57,968 --> 00:59:59,967
You're being paranoid.
1191
00:59:59,969 --> 01:00:01,335
You're being naive.
1192
01:00:01,337 --> 01:00:04,739
This isn't Yugoslavia,
this is America.
1193
01:00:04,741 --> 01:00:07,007
America has changed.
1194
01:00:07,009 --> 01:00:08,375
War is big business for them.
1195
01:00:08,377 --> 01:00:11,045
You get in their way,
they're gonna kill you.
1196
01:00:11,047 --> 01:00:15,817
Honey, you are being ridiculous.
All right? Come on.
1197
01:00:15,819 --> 01:00:19,054
Don't you get it?
1198
01:00:19,056 --> 01:00:21,890
You know what these people
are capable of?
1199
01:00:21,892 --> 01:00:24,493
You have a family!
1200
01:00:24,495 --> 01:00:28,098
Vlatka. Vlatka!
1201
01:00:32,902 --> 01:00:37,239
Oh, somebody's struggling.
What's the matter?
1202
01:00:37,241 --> 01:00:40,542
Oh, Vlatka kept me up all night.
1203
01:00:40,544 --> 01:00:42,176
All right!
1204
01:00:42,178 --> 01:00:46,047
No, not that like that. It was
conspiracy theories.
1205
01:00:46,049 --> 01:00:47,415
About what?
1206
01:00:47,417 --> 01:00:50,951
Oh... she thinks the government
is monitoring us.
1207
01:00:50,953 --> 01:00:54,124
I mean, it's ridiculous.
1208
01:00:56,225 --> 01:00:57,761
Check your email.
1209
01:01:09,906 --> 01:01:11,839
John, you got to see this.
1210
01:01:11,841 --> 01:01:14,042
Oh, hold on a second.
1211
01:01:14,044 --> 01:01:17,248
Arthur, I really don't want to
have this conversation again.
1212
01:01:19,382 --> 01:01:22,819
He hung up. What is it?
1213
01:01:30,060 --> 01:01:31,362
What do we do?
1214
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:52,047
- You're such a wuss.
- You're a wuss.
1215
01:01:52,049 --> 01:01:54,015
You're a much bigger wuss.
1216
01:01:54,017 --> 01:01:55,516
Shut up, will you stop it,
you're being a child.
1217
01:01:55,518 --> 01:01:57,484
- You're being a...
- Shut up!
1218
01:01:57,486 --> 01:02:00,554
Today's UN Security
Council resolution...
1219
01:02:00,556 --> 01:02:04,558
can be boiled down to four
words, the clock is ticking.
1220
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:08,596
Iraq's only alternative to full
compliance, President Bush...
1221
01:02:08,598 --> 01:02:11,632
made clear today, is
of military confrontation.
1222
01:02:11,634 --> 01:02:14,902
The full disarmament of
weapons of mass destruction...
1223
01:02:14,904 --> 01:02:16,471
by Iraq will occur.
1224
01:02:16,473 --> 01:02:22,246
The only question for the Iraqi
regime is to decide how.
1225
01:02:34,091 --> 01:02:35,422
Son of a bitch.
1226
01:02:35,424 --> 01:02:37,125
They beat us.
1227
01:02:37,127 --> 01:02:39,326
But they missed the whole point
of why the unit was set up.
1228
01:02:39,328 --> 01:02:40,629
It doesn't matter, they got
the scoop.
1229
01:02:40,631 --> 01:02:42,330
With what?
1230
01:02:42,332 --> 01:02:44,199
There's nothing about
cherry picking intelligence.
1231
01:02:44,201 --> 01:02:46,433
There's nothing about bypassing
other agencies.
1232
01:02:46,435 --> 01:02:48,036
We can still run ours.
1233
01:02:48,038 --> 01:02:49,337
John, no one's gonna pay
attention...
1234
01:02:49,339 --> 01:02:52,140
to a second story explaining
all that.
1235
01:02:52,142 --> 01:02:53,908
We had it.
1236
01:02:53,910 --> 01:02:55,911
Goddamn it, Walcott's gonna be
pissed.
1237
01:02:55,913 --> 01:02:58,115
Maybe he hadn't seen it yet.
1238
01:03:11,661 --> 01:03:14,462
How is it possible he hasn't
talked to us all day?
1239
01:03:14,464 --> 01:03:17,134
He's giving us the silent
treatment.
1240
01:03:20,136 --> 01:03:22,136
Oh, shit, here he comes.
1241
01:03:22,138 --> 01:03:24,307
Oh, Jesus.
1242
01:03:29,546 --> 01:03:31,549
You had the story.
1243
01:03:33,317 --> 01:03:35,319
Don't ever forget how
it feels to get beat.
1244
01:03:39,723 --> 01:03:42,156
The only information Congress
is getting...
1245
01:03:42,158 --> 01:03:44,359
is coming directly from the
administration.
1246
01:03:44,361 --> 01:03:47,194
Iraq is a huge country about
the size of France...
1247
01:03:47,196 --> 01:03:49,230
if they want to hide their
weapons of mass destruction...
1248
01:03:49,232 --> 01:03:50,998
they're going to be able
to do so.
1249
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:53,368
They're not going to rethink
their positions...
1250
01:03:53,370 --> 01:03:56,004
unless they are provided
with independent intel.
1251
01:03:56,006 --> 01:03:58,640
No one who's supported the
authorization for war...
1252
01:03:58,642 --> 01:04:02,377
in Congress, in Iraq, not the
president...
1253
01:04:02,379 --> 01:04:06,348
I am sure would go to war just
because he wants to go to war.
1254
01:04:06,350 --> 01:04:09,984
Rumsfeld's been trying to sell
this idea that an Iraqi...
1255
01:04:09,986 --> 01:04:13,754
intelligence officer offered
bin Laden safe haven in '99.
1256
01:04:13,756 --> 01:04:15,290
Yeah.
1257
01:04:15,292 --> 01:04:17,525
Well, if that offer actually
had happened...
1258
01:04:17,527 --> 01:04:20,661
bin Laden would have told Saddam
to go fuck himself.
1259
01:04:20,663 --> 01:04:22,663
What do you make of the
statement made...
1260
01:04:22,665 --> 01:04:25,266
by the Iraqi government that
Iraq has no weapons...
1261
01:04:25,268 --> 01:04:27,634
of mass destruction
and is not developing?
1262
01:04:27,636 --> 01:04:29,406
They're lying.
1263
01:04:31,241 --> 01:04:32,607
Next.
1264
01:04:32,609 --> 01:04:34,208
Your daughter is lovely.
1265
01:04:34,210 --> 01:04:35,777
Well, I wish I could take
credit.
1266
01:04:35,779 --> 01:04:37,478
She gets it from her mother.
1267
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:38,679
Dad, can I get you
anything?
1268
01:04:38,681 --> 01:04:40,515
- Oh, no, thanks, sweetie.
- Mr. Strobel?
1269
01:04:40,517 --> 01:04:42,319
- I'm fine.
- All right.
1270
01:04:45,489 --> 01:04:47,221
Just real casual.
1271
01:04:47,223 --> 01:04:48,790
Tom and I were just talking
about your latest article.
1272
01:04:48,792 --> 01:04:50,324
Oh, yeah?
1273
01:04:50,326 --> 01:04:52,092
Seems like you don't trust
politicians.
1274
01:04:52,094 --> 01:04:55,129
Well, that's a pretty solid
rule of journalism.
1275
01:04:55,131 --> 01:04:57,232
Even when they're talking
about war?
1276
01:04:57,234 --> 01:04:59,466
Especially when they're talking
about war.
1277
01:04:59,468 --> 01:05:01,569
You really believe there's
no WMD?
1278
01:05:01,571 --> 01:05:03,638
Our names are on the article.
1279
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:05,640
They don't say that
there's no WMD.
1280
01:05:05,642 --> 01:05:07,141
They just said that the
administration...
1281
01:05:07,143 --> 01:05:08,576
hasn't offered any proof of WMD.
1282
01:05:08,578 --> 01:05:10,645
And you don't think
they'll find any?
1283
01:05:10,647 --> 01:05:13,614
No, I don't.
1284
01:05:13,616 --> 01:05:14,815
You don't know that.
1285
01:05:14,817 --> 01:05:16,551
No, we don't.
1286
01:05:16,553 --> 01:05:18,752
But before we send our kids
to their possible deaths...
1287
01:05:18,754 --> 01:05:20,487
don't you think the
administration...
1288
01:05:20,489 --> 01:05:22,390
has an obligation to provide
proof of their rationale?
1289
01:05:22,392 --> 01:05:25,560
What if that proof comes in the
form of a mushroom cloud?
1290
01:05:25,562 --> 01:05:28,730
Okay, you've been watching
Fox News again?
1291
01:05:28,732 --> 01:05:31,332
Rice, Cheney, and President Bush
have all said the same thing.
1292
01:05:31,334 --> 01:05:33,301
Oh, well, then it must be true.
1293
01:05:33,303 --> 01:05:35,270
You kids are too young
to remember...
1294
01:05:35,272 --> 01:05:37,672
how close we came to nuclear war
in '62.
1295
01:05:37,674 --> 01:05:39,540
Hell, Warren, you were born
the very day...
1296
01:05:39,542 --> 01:05:42,777
President Kennedy ordered the
blockade against Cuba.
1297
01:05:42,779 --> 01:05:45,612
The most powerful enemy we knew
was gonna put nuclear weapons...
1298
01:05:45,614 --> 01:05:47,714
90 miles off our coast.
1299
01:05:47,716 --> 01:05:49,551
The president had to demonstrate
strength.
1300
01:05:49,553 --> 01:05:53,455
And the next day, Kennedy sent
Adlai Stevenson to the U.N...
1301
01:05:53,457 --> 01:05:55,558
to offer proof that the missiles
existed.
1302
01:05:56,759 --> 01:05:58,592
It's not just Fox News.
1303
01:05:58,594 --> 01:06:01,862
It's the Washington Post.
It's The New York Times.
1304
01:06:01,864 --> 01:06:04,799
Hell, proof is coming from every
major media outlet...
1305
01:06:04,801 --> 01:06:07,705
in the country, except yours.
1306
01:06:09,272 --> 01:06:10,804
Okay.
1307
01:06:10,806 --> 01:06:16,413
Uh, I think I forgot the
hamburger buns, excuse me.
1308
01:06:18,114 --> 01:06:20,750
I'm going to grab a beer.
1309
01:06:23,352 --> 01:06:25,121
Jesus, Dad.
1310
01:06:36,299 --> 01:06:37,464
Are you okay, bro?
1311
01:06:37,466 --> 01:06:39,069
Yeah.
1312
01:06:40,870 --> 01:06:44,172
Are we good reporters?
1313
01:06:44,174 --> 01:06:45,272
What?
1314
01:06:45,274 --> 01:06:48,208
I mean, are we doing anything...
1315
01:06:48,210 --> 01:06:49,877
other than practicing good
journalism?
1316
01:06:49,879 --> 01:06:51,913
No, we're doing exactly what
we're supposed...
1317
01:06:51,915 --> 01:06:54,449
Then, why the fuck are we
the only ones...
1318
01:06:54,451 --> 01:06:56,620
running these fucking stories?!
1319
01:07:04,527 --> 01:07:06,828
He just wanted you to see
all sides to him...
1320
01:07:06,830 --> 01:07:08,466
before you take it to the
next level.
1321
01:07:13,770 --> 01:07:15,569
Almost three months ago,
the United Nations...
1322
01:07:15,571 --> 01:07:17,739
Security Council gave
Saddam Hussein...
1323
01:07:17,741 --> 01:07:20,942
his final chance to disarm.
1324
01:07:20,944 --> 01:07:22,777
Our intelligence officials
estimate...
1325
01:07:22,779 --> 01:07:24,645
that Saddam Hussein had the
materials to produce...
1326
01:07:24,647 --> 01:07:27,549
What's the point of having
U.N. weapons inspections...
1327
01:07:27,551 --> 01:07:30,185
if Bush and Cheney are just
going to ignore the results?
1328
01:07:30,187 --> 01:07:33,254
Well, when you're creating
your own reality...
1329
01:07:33,256 --> 01:07:35,255
it's pretty easy to ignore
the facts.
1330
01:07:35,257 --> 01:07:37,357
And so what? Due diligence is
too inconvenient...
1331
01:07:37,359 --> 01:07:39,861
for the mainstream media
at this point?
1332
01:07:39,863 --> 01:07:41,763
When news is a profit center...
1333
01:07:41,765 --> 01:07:43,531
Access becomes currency.
1334
01:07:43,533 --> 01:07:44,668
Exactly.
1335
01:07:46,402 --> 01:07:47,634
I'm proud of you, John.
1336
01:07:47,636 --> 01:07:48,703
Why?
1337
01:07:48,705 --> 01:07:52,473
For not wavering.
1338
01:07:52,475 --> 01:07:53,841
It's got to be tough.
1339
01:07:53,843 --> 01:07:55,542
It's not that tough.
1340
01:07:55,544 --> 01:07:59,746
I know who their sources are and
I know who our sources are.
1341
01:07:59,748 --> 01:08:03,384
"Iraqi Dissidents Reassured
in a Talk with Bush...
1342
01:08:03,386 --> 01:08:06,587
"About the Post-Hussein Era."
1343
01:08:06,589 --> 01:08:07,922
By Judith Miller.
1344
01:08:07,924 --> 01:08:09,656
She'd quote a carnival
fortune teller...
1345
01:08:09,658 --> 01:08:12,426
if he was willing to say
Iraq had WMD.
1346
01:08:12,428 --> 01:08:15,230
We gotta dig into the
declassified...
1347
01:08:15,232 --> 01:08:16,597
national intelligence
estimate...
1348
01:08:16,599 --> 01:08:19,234
and find out if there are any
gems in there.
1349
01:08:19,236 --> 01:08:20,302
Yeah, I'd love to see...
1350
01:08:20,304 --> 01:08:22,770
what they redacted from the
classified version.
1351
01:08:22,772 --> 01:08:24,371
Oh, what's going
on with Chalabi?
1352
01:08:24,373 --> 01:08:25,707
We're on it.
1353
01:08:25,709 --> 01:08:26,908
I'm gonna keep an eye
on my old boss.
1354
01:08:26,910 --> 01:08:28,709
- I got a feeling.
- Yeah...
1355
01:08:28,711 --> 01:08:31,714
Colin may be the last person
standing between peace and war.
1356
01:08:33,750 --> 01:08:34,919
Yeah.
1357
01:08:42,559 --> 01:08:44,461
Goddamn it!
1358
01:08:49,965 --> 01:08:51,367
Fuck!
1359
01:08:56,773 --> 01:08:58,472
Angela, did the mayor
set a date...
1360
01:08:58,474 --> 01:08:59,673
for the fundraiser yet?
1361
01:08:59,675 --> 01:09:02,643
Hey, Arthur, I was totally
wrong.
1362
01:09:02,645 --> 01:09:05,545
Your head isn't literally
up your ass.
1363
01:09:05,547 --> 01:09:08,348
It's always a pleasure to see
you, John...
1364
01:09:08,350 --> 01:09:10,884
but would you please wait
outside?
1365
01:09:10,886 --> 01:09:13,387
You know, it's bad enough you're
ignoring all our work...
1366
01:09:13,389 --> 01:09:15,757
but the fact that you're running
these bullshit...
1367
01:09:15,759 --> 01:09:19,326
Judy Miller pieces is
unconscionable.
1368
01:09:19,328 --> 01:09:20,727
Not in here, John.
Okay, please?
1369
01:09:20,729 --> 01:09:24,632
Let's take it in my office.
Excuse me.
1370
01:09:24,634 --> 01:09:26,801
Jesus.
1371
01:09:26,803 --> 01:09:28,569
Look, as painful as this
might seem...
1372
01:09:28,571 --> 01:09:30,370
I don't answer to you, John.
1373
01:09:30,372 --> 01:09:32,539
Yes, as evidenced by the fact
that you still have a job.
1374
01:09:32,541 --> 01:09:34,642
You know what, my responsibility
is to my readers.
1375
01:09:34,644 --> 01:09:36,311
They're citizens who are
patriots...
1376
01:09:36,313 --> 01:09:37,978
they're citizens who support
our troops.
1377
01:09:37,980 --> 01:09:40,080
And how do you do that, Arthur?
1378
01:09:40,082 --> 01:09:42,650
By going down on
The New York Times?
1379
01:09:42,652 --> 01:09:44,552
I don't have time for this.
1380
01:09:44,554 --> 01:09:45,986
No, you don't have time.
1381
01:09:45,988 --> 01:09:47,554
You don't have time.
1382
01:09:47,556 --> 01:09:48,955
You know, one day,
The New York Times...
1383
01:09:48,957 --> 01:09:50,792
is going to apologize
to its readers.
1384
01:09:50,794 --> 01:09:54,529
And when that day comes, are you
gonna write your own apology?
1385
01:09:54,531 --> 01:09:56,931
Or are you just going to run
theirs?
1386
01:09:56,933 --> 01:09:58,868
Have a nice day, John.
1387
01:10:01,403 --> 01:10:03,338
It is beginning to look more
and more as though...
1388
01:10:03,340 --> 01:10:05,539
war with Iraq is inevitable.
1389
01:10:05,541 --> 01:10:08,543
The Showdown with Iraq and the
countdown to a speech...
1390
01:10:08,545 --> 01:10:10,744
by Secretary of State
Colin Powell...
1391
01:10:10,746 --> 01:10:12,946
that could move the world
closer to war.
1392
01:10:12,948 --> 01:10:15,415
There's not much left for the
soldiers to do but wait...
1393
01:10:15,417 --> 01:10:18,886
for orders to attack, Ryan
Chillcoat reports...
1394
01:10:18,888 --> 01:10:21,888
That's so frustrating.
1395
01:10:21,890 --> 01:10:23,794
I don't know that I could
do what you do.
1396
01:10:25,929 --> 01:10:27,462
You know, I once got it
in my head...
1397
01:10:27,464 --> 01:10:29,530
that I should hike the
Appalachian Trail.
1398
01:10:29,532 --> 01:10:31,766
Thought that it would just be a
good challenge for myself.
1399
01:10:31,768 --> 01:10:35,372
Then I look at it on a map
and it's like 2200 miles.
1400
01:10:37,573 --> 01:10:39,374
I realized...
1401
01:10:39,376 --> 01:10:40,975
That it would take a lifetime?
1402
01:10:40,977 --> 01:10:42,712
Yeah.
1403
01:10:46,148 --> 01:10:47,817
Or we could walk it together.
1404
01:10:49,885 --> 01:10:53,987
I'm gonna hold you to that.
1405
01:10:53,989 --> 01:10:55,856
Worldwide resistance
is mounting...
1406
01:10:55,858 --> 01:10:59,593
against America's military
intervention into Iraq.
1407
01:10:59,595 --> 01:11:02,530
From US cities to Europe and
the Middle East...
1408
01:11:02,532 --> 01:11:05,600
demonstrators have taken to the
streets in opposition...
1409
01:11:05,602 --> 01:11:08,805
to the United States'
threat to invade Iraq.
1410
01:11:16,446 --> 01:11:18,478
Mr. Strobel, Mr. Landay,
how do you do?
1411
01:11:18,480 --> 01:11:19,713
- Hello.
- I'm Entifadh Qanbar.
1412
01:11:19,715 --> 01:11:21,517
- Hi.
- Now, please, follow me.
1413
01:11:22,919 --> 01:11:24,518
Who's this dude?
1414
01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:29,123
Guy who used to deliver pizzas.
I'm not kidding.
1415
01:11:29,125 --> 01:11:30,892
Minister Chalabi,
Mr. Jonathan Landay...
1416
01:11:30,894 --> 01:11:34,628
and Warren Strobel from Knight
Ridder News.
1417
01:11:34,630 --> 01:11:36,864
Gentlemen, welcome.
1418
01:11:36,866 --> 01:11:40,735
Hey. Thank you for finally
agreeing to meet with us.
1419
01:11:40,737 --> 01:11:43,204
I've been very busy.
1420
01:11:43,206 --> 01:11:45,606
Talking to our competitors.
1421
01:11:45,608 --> 01:11:47,909
I speak with whomever wishes
to speak with me.
1422
01:11:47,911 --> 01:11:50,210
After all, I have nothing
to hide...
1423
01:11:50,212 --> 01:11:54,182
which is more than I can say
for Saddam.
1424
01:11:54,184 --> 01:11:55,950
Okay, well, since you brought
him up...
1425
01:11:55,952 --> 01:11:57,651
I thought we might talk
about what...
1426
01:11:57,653 --> 01:11:59,719
you know about his weapons
and how he might be hiding them.
1427
01:11:59,721 --> 01:12:05,125
He has WMD and he's hiding them,
that I know.
1428
01:12:05,127 --> 01:12:07,695
Right, and you know that how?
1429
01:12:07,697 --> 01:12:10,897
I know everything that's
happening in my country.
1430
01:12:10,899 --> 01:12:14,168
Even though Iraq hasn't been
your country for over a decade?
1431
01:12:14,170 --> 01:12:19,073
I may be an exile, but I'm still
an Iraqi.
1432
01:12:19,075 --> 01:12:21,542
Well, I think the point my
colleague is trying to make...
1433
01:12:21,544 --> 01:12:24,678
is how would you, an enemy
of Saddam, in exile...
1434
01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:27,949
have access to such valuable
information?
1435
01:12:27,951 --> 01:12:29,984
I maintain close
relationships...
1436
01:12:29,986 --> 01:12:32,152
with dissident intelligence
sources.
1437
01:12:32,154 --> 01:12:33,820
Is there a way we can
verify that?
1438
01:12:33,822 --> 01:12:35,589
No.
1439
01:12:35,591 --> 01:12:37,525
See, that's kind of a problem
for us...
1440
01:12:37,527 --> 01:12:39,060
because we can't write a story...
1441
01:12:39,062 --> 01:12:44,832
I want what America wants,
a free and democratic Iraq.
1442
01:12:44,834 --> 01:12:46,801
With you as its leader?
1443
01:12:46,803 --> 01:12:50,504
If the people of Iraq wish
for me to return, yes.
1444
01:12:50,506 --> 01:12:54,508
I want the opportunity to help
rebuild my country...
1445
01:12:54,510 --> 01:12:57,011
the way Mandela did
in South Africa.
1446
01:12:57,013 --> 01:13:01,548
But Mandela didn't ask the U.S.
to invade his country.
1447
01:13:01,550 --> 01:13:04,651
He wasn't fighting terrorists.
1448
01:13:04,653 --> 01:13:06,887
With all due respect, that's
where the red flags...
1449
01:13:06,889 --> 01:13:08,722
start to go up for us.
1450
01:13:08,724 --> 01:13:11,225
Are you implying that I've
created a false narrative...
1451
01:13:11,227 --> 01:13:12,994
for my own pursuits?
1452
01:13:12,996 --> 01:13:15,295
Is there another reason why
you'd create a false narrative?
1453
01:13:15,297 --> 01:13:18,132
I don't lie!
1454
01:13:18,134 --> 01:13:20,968
Saddam Hussein has mobile
chemical...
1455
01:13:20,970 --> 01:13:22,969
and biological weapons labs.
1456
01:13:22,971 --> 01:13:27,208
He has a nuclear program.
He has ties to terrorists.
1457
01:13:27,210 --> 01:13:30,744
And if you don't believe me,
just ask the many other...
1458
01:13:30,746 --> 01:13:32,646
defectors and hear
what they say.
1459
01:13:32,648 --> 01:13:34,682
They will all tell
you the same thing.
1460
01:13:34,684 --> 01:13:39,656
Don't they all get their
information from you?
1461
01:13:43,091 --> 01:13:46,093
If you were wondering why
it took so long for me...
1462
01:13:46,095 --> 01:13:51,865
to meet with you, it's this
smug attitude.
1463
01:13:51,867 --> 01:13:55,735
You have no intention of
reporting anything I've said.
1464
01:13:55,737 --> 01:13:58,204
Do you want us to just be your
cheerleaders?
1465
01:13:58,206 --> 01:13:59,707
All right, I think we
should go.
1466
01:13:59,709 --> 01:14:03,143
Thank you for your time.
1467
01:14:03,145 --> 01:14:07,748
Now I see why no one reads
anything you write.
1468
01:14:07,750 --> 01:14:11,319
I am an advocate for the removal
of a vicious dictator...
1469
01:14:11,321 --> 01:14:16,057
for a free Iraq, an Iraq that
will one day be a close ally...
1470
01:14:16,059 --> 01:14:20,828
to your country, to Israel, and
to all of the Western world.
1471
01:14:20,830 --> 01:14:24,164
And exactly how will this happen
after Saddam Hussein is gone?
1472
01:14:24,166 --> 01:14:25,865
All right, come on, Landay.
1473
01:14:25,867 --> 01:14:27,701
No, no, no, he says the world
will be better off...
1474
01:14:27,703 --> 01:14:29,203
but he doesn't say how.
1475
01:14:29,205 --> 01:14:31,705
How would the removal
of Saddam Hussein...
1476
01:14:31,707 --> 01:14:34,741
not plunge Iraq into a bloody
civil war?
1477
01:14:34,743 --> 01:14:36,677
Tell us something that makes
sense...
1478
01:14:36,679 --> 01:14:41,915
anything that makes sense, and
we'll write that story today.
1479
01:14:41,917 --> 01:14:43,183
You can't!
1480
01:14:43,185 --> 01:14:45,785
Because you have no
idea what happens next.
1481
01:14:45,787 --> 01:14:47,821
- And neither does anyone else.
- John. John!
1482
01:14:47,823 --> 01:14:50,758
I would rather go back and write
for my high school paper...
1483
01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:52,093
than to be used by you...
1484
01:14:52,095 --> 01:14:55,161
to sell the American public
your bullshit.
1485
01:14:55,163 --> 01:14:56,132
All right.
1486
01:15:00,303 --> 01:15:04,204
By the way, it's Knight Ridder.
1487
01:15:04,206 --> 01:15:06,007
Secretary of State Colin Powell
will make the case...
1488
01:15:06,009 --> 01:15:09,310
against Iraq in a nationally
televised address...
1489
01:15:09,312 --> 01:15:11,779
to the UN Security Council.
1490
01:15:11,781 --> 01:15:13,780
Looks like they're bringing
in the closer.
1491
01:15:13,782 --> 01:15:15,249
Mr. Secretary,
are you confident...
1492
01:15:15,251 --> 01:15:16,851
you will make your case, sir?
1493
01:15:16,853 --> 01:15:18,319
You'll see.
1494
01:15:18,321 --> 01:15:20,154
What the hell game have we've
been playing?
1495
01:15:20,156 --> 01:15:22,292
All we did is piss into the
wind.
1496
01:15:24,426 --> 01:15:27,427
We did our jobs.
1497
01:15:27,429 --> 01:15:30,830
I should never have become
a reporter.
1498
01:15:30,832 --> 01:15:33,870
Damn that Woodward and
Bernstein.
1499
01:15:36,339 --> 01:15:39,073
They took down a president
whose biggest crime...
1500
01:15:39,075 --> 01:15:42,910
was trying to cover up some
dirty political tricks.
1501
01:15:42,912 --> 01:15:45,279
This president's about to do the
worst thing any president...
1502
01:15:45,281 --> 01:15:47,718
could do and he'll probably
get re-elected.
1503
01:15:49,852 --> 01:15:51,787
To the democratic experiment.
1504
01:15:55,257 --> 01:15:56,891
Thank you, Mr. President.
1505
01:15:56,893 --> 01:15:59,192
My colleagues, every statement
I make today...
1506
01:15:59,194 --> 01:16:03,931
is backed up by sources,
solid sources.
1507
01:16:03,933 --> 01:16:07,334
The gravity of this moment is
matched by the gravity...
1508
01:16:07,336 --> 01:16:10,337
of the threat that Iraq's
weapons of mass destruction...
1509
01:16:10,339 --> 01:16:11,905
pose to the world.
1510
01:16:11,907 --> 01:16:15,709
It was a set up, the whole damn
thing was a set up.
1511
01:16:15,711 --> 01:16:18,244
Tenet sent Powell a stack
of files this high...
1512
01:16:18,246 --> 01:16:19,413
that supported the invasion.
1513
01:16:19,415 --> 01:16:21,414
Saddam Hussein is determined...
1514
01:16:21,416 --> 01:16:23,851
to get his hands
on a nuclear bomb.
1515
01:16:23,853 --> 01:16:25,218
Cheney sent Scooter Libby...
1516
01:16:25,220 --> 01:16:27,887
to push three main arguments
in those files.
1517
01:16:27,889 --> 01:16:29,423
One: Saddam's human rights
abuses...
1518
01:16:29,425 --> 01:16:30,990
which everybody knew about.
1519
01:16:30,992 --> 01:16:32,860
Two: his links to al Qaeda,
which Powell...
1520
01:16:32,862 --> 01:16:34,762
of course, threw right
in the trash.
1521
01:16:34,764 --> 01:16:39,400
And the third focused
on Iraq's WMD.
1522
01:16:39,402 --> 01:16:41,869
Leaving Saddam Hussein in
possession of weapons...
1523
01:16:41,871 --> 01:16:44,204
of mass destruction for a few
more months or years...
1524
01:16:44,206 --> 01:16:48,241
is not an option, not in a
post-September 11th world.
1525
01:16:48,243 --> 01:16:52,178
Over a four-day period, Powell
made every single CIA officer...
1526
01:16:52,180 --> 01:16:55,415
defend every so-called piece
of evidence in those files.
1527
01:16:55,417 --> 01:16:57,250
He threw out 80% of them.
1528
01:16:57,252 --> 01:16:59,018
At the end of the four days...
1529
01:16:59,020 --> 01:17:01,254
Powell looked Tenet right
in the eye and said...
1530
01:17:01,256 --> 01:17:06,192
"George, can we stand
by every word of this?"
1531
01:17:06,194 --> 01:17:13,066
And Tenet said, "Everything in
there is gold, I promise you."
1532
01:17:13,068 --> 01:17:15,302
To which Powell replied, "Well,
that's good, George.
1533
01:17:15,304 --> 01:17:17,271
"I'm glad you feel that way,
'cause you're going to be...
1534
01:17:17,273 --> 01:17:20,307
"sitting right behind me when
I present this to the world."
1535
01:17:20,309 --> 01:17:24,410
We must not fail in our duty
and our responsibility...
1536
01:17:24,412 --> 01:17:26,379
to the citizens of the
countries...
1537
01:17:26,381 --> 01:17:29,450
that are represented
by this body.
1538
01:17:29,452 --> 01:17:32,285
Colin took one for the team.
1539
01:17:32,287 --> 01:17:34,320
Always the good soldier.
1540
01:17:34,322 --> 01:17:36,323
Has the Iraqi regime fully...
1541
01:17:36,325 --> 01:17:39,927
and unconditionally disarmed?
1542
01:17:39,929 --> 01:17:43,097
The only acceptable outcome is
the one already defined...
1543
01:17:43,099 --> 01:17:45,865
by a unanimous vote of the
Security Council.
1544
01:17:45,867 --> 01:17:49,003
Total disarmament.
1545
01:17:49,005 --> 01:17:51,204
Great Britain, Spain and the
United States have introduced..
1546
01:17:51,206 --> 01:17:54,508
a new resolution stating that
Iraq has failed to meet...
1547
01:17:54,510 --> 01:18:01,382
the requirements
of Resolution 1441.
1548
01:18:01,384 --> 01:18:05,319
This is a fact, it cannot
be denied.
1549
01:18:05,321 --> 01:18:06,553
And what harm
would it do to give...
1550
01:18:06,555 --> 01:18:08,489
Saddam a final ultimatum?
1551
01:18:08,491 --> 01:18:11,392
A two or three day deadline
to disarm or face force?
1552
01:18:11,394 --> 01:18:13,994
September the 11th changed
the strategic thinking...
1553
01:18:13,996 --> 01:18:16,230
at least as far as I was
concerned...
1554
01:18:16,232 --> 01:18:18,865
for how to protect our country.
1555
01:18:18,867 --> 01:18:24,038
My job is to protect the
American people.
1556
01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:27,040
Used to be that we could think
that you could contain...
1557
01:18:27,042 --> 01:18:28,909
a person like Saddam Hussein...
1558
01:18:28,911 --> 01:18:31,611
that oceans would protect us
from his type of terror.
1559
01:18:33,515 --> 01:18:35,516
September the 11th should say
to the American people...
1560
01:18:35,518 --> 01:18:37,418
Hello?
1561
01:18:37,420 --> 01:18:39,352
You need to pack your bags.
1562
01:18:39,354 --> 01:18:42,589
Right.
1563
01:18:42,591 --> 01:18:45,092
In the hands of a terrorist
organization...
1564
01:18:45,094 --> 01:18:48,428
could be deployed here at home.
1565
01:18:48,430 --> 01:18:52,432
King, John King. This is a
scripted...
1566
01:18:52,434 --> 01:18:54,267
Thank you, Mr. President.
1567
01:18:54,269 --> 01:18:56,603
Sir, how would you answer your
critics who say that they...
1568
01:18:56,605 --> 01:18:58,338
They think this is somehow
personal?
1569
01:18:58,340 --> 01:19:00,374
As Senator Kennedy put it
tonight...
1570
01:19:00,376 --> 01:19:02,877
he said your fixation
with Saddam Hussein...
1571
01:19:02,879 --> 01:19:05,079
is making the world a more
dangerous place.
1572
01:19:05,081 --> 01:19:07,114
And as you prepare the American
people for the possibility...
1573
01:19:07,116 --> 01:19:09,316
of military conflict, could you
share with us...
1574
01:19:09,318 --> 01:19:11,451
any of the scenarios your
advisors have shared...
1575
01:19:11,453 --> 01:19:15,222
with you about worst-case
scenarios?
1576
01:19:15,224 --> 01:19:21,464
You make sure the... this country
knows what's going on out there.
1577
01:19:22,598 --> 01:19:25,031
- Yeah?
- I will.
1578
01:19:25,033 --> 01:19:29,335
I swore to protect and defend
the Constitution.
1579
01:19:29,337 --> 01:19:31,371
He has weapons of mass
destruction...
1580
01:19:31,373 --> 01:19:34,475
and he has used weapons
of mass destruction.
1581
01:19:34,477 --> 01:19:36,176
He has trained and financed...
1582
01:19:36,178 --> 01:19:38,646
al Qaeda-type organizations
before.
1583
01:19:38,648 --> 01:19:42,449
I take the threat seriously,
and I'll deal with the threat.
1584
01:19:42,451 --> 01:19:45,319
I hope it can be done
peacefully.
1585
01:19:45,321 --> 01:19:48,422
They hate what we stand for.
1586
01:19:48,424 --> 01:19:50,227
We love freedom, and we're
not changing.
1587
01:19:52,127 --> 01:19:54,093
Mr. President,
millions of Americans can...
1588
01:19:54,095 --> 01:19:57,097
recall a time when leaders from
both parties set this country..
1589
01:19:57,099 --> 01:19:59,333
on a mission of regime change
in Vietnam.
1590
01:19:59,335 --> 01:20:01,968
50,000 Americans died.
1591
01:20:01,970 --> 01:20:04,938
The regime is still there in
Hanoi and it hasn't harmed...
1592
01:20:04,940 --> 01:20:06,606
or threatened a single American
in 30 years...
1593
01:20:06,608 --> 01:20:08,409
since the war ended.
1594
01:20:08,411 --> 01:20:11,177
What can you say tonight, sir,
to the sons and daughters...
1595
01:20:11,179 --> 01:20:14,647
of the Americans who served in
Vietnam to assure them that...
1596
01:20:14,649 --> 01:20:18,418
you will not lead this country
down a similar path in Iraq?
1597
01:20:18,420 --> 01:20:21,387
That's a great question.
1598
01:20:21,389 --> 01:20:24,191
No doubt, there's risks with
any military operation.
1599
01:20:24,193 --> 01:20:26,026
I know that.
1600
01:20:26,028 --> 01:20:28,462
It's a good thing he can draw
on all that experience he got...
1601
01:20:28,464 --> 01:20:30,664
while not serving in the
National Guard.
1602
01:20:30,666 --> 01:20:34,034
But it's very clear what we
intend to do.
1603
01:20:34,036 --> 01:20:36,139
And our mission won't change.
1604
01:20:38,674 --> 01:20:43,343
It could last, you know, six
days, six weeks...
1605
01:20:43,345 --> 01:20:47,114
I doubt six months.
1606
01:20:47,116 --> 01:20:48,649
There's a lot of money to pay
for this...
1607
01:20:48,651 --> 01:20:50,616
that doesn't have to be
U.S. taxpayer money.
1608
01:20:50,618 --> 01:20:53,152
We're dealing with a country
that can really finance...
1609
01:20:53,154 --> 01:20:56,022
its own reconstruction,
and relatively soon.
1610
01:20:56,024 --> 01:20:58,592
There will always be some
uncertainty...
1611
01:20:58,594 --> 01:21:01,328
about how quickly he can
acquire nuclear weapons...
1612
01:21:01,330 --> 01:21:04,263
but we don't want the smoking
gun to be a mushroom cloud.
1613
01:21:04,265 --> 01:21:06,165
Do you think the
America people...
1614
01:21:06,167 --> 01:21:09,636
are prepared for a long,
costly, and bloody battle...
1615
01:21:09,638 --> 01:21:12,106
with significant American
casualties?
1616
01:21:12,108 --> 01:21:14,173
I don't think it's likely
to unfold that way, Tim...
1617
01:21:14,175 --> 01:21:16,276
because I really do believe we
will be greeted as liberators.
1618
01:21:16,278 --> 01:21:19,213
Six weeks after the
war had begun, the President...
1619
01:21:19,215 --> 01:21:21,481
is set to deliver a very
carefully worded speech...
1620
01:21:21,483 --> 01:21:24,084
on a carrier in the Pacific.
1621
01:21:24,086 --> 01:21:27,620
My fellow Americans,
major combat operations...
1622
01:21:27,622 --> 01:21:29,556
in Iraq have ended.
1623
01:21:29,558 --> 01:21:32,659
In the battle of Iraq,
the United States...
1624
01:21:32,661 --> 01:21:35,498
and our allies have prevailed.
1625
01:22:17,572 --> 01:22:19,575
I want to go down there.
1626
01:22:37,492 --> 01:22:40,496
They were the first to die.
1627
01:22:45,233 --> 01:22:47,370
Were you there?
1628
01:22:50,706 --> 01:22:52,108
Thank you.
1629
01:22:57,545 --> 01:22:59,281
Thank you, son.
1630
01:24:04,779 --> 01:24:06,579
Jonathan, how did it feel,
therefore...
1631
01:24:06,581 --> 01:24:10,350
to be the lone holdouts in this
pursuit of truth and fact?
1632
01:24:10,352 --> 01:24:12,718
It was very lonely and what
made it actually one...
1633
01:24:12,720 --> 01:24:14,288
of the ironies is...
1634
01:24:14,290 --> 01:24:15,955
that every time we would write
something...
1635
01:24:15,957 --> 01:24:19,325
the White House would say
nothing, because we realized...
1636
01:24:19,327 --> 01:24:21,561
after a while that that would
have been the best...
1637
01:24:21,563 --> 01:24:24,530
advertising for our stories we
could have possibly asked for.
1638
01:24:24,532 --> 01:24:25,632
There's a problem with
journalism...
1639
01:24:25,634 --> 01:24:27,433
in Washington, which is access.
1640
01:24:27,435 --> 01:24:29,302
And The New York Times and
others had access to the top...
1641
01:24:29,304 --> 01:24:30,736
officials who were spinning
this line.
1642
01:24:30,738 --> 01:24:32,371
We talked to those people,
as well...
1643
01:24:32,373 --> 01:24:33,640
but most of our reporting,
Christiane...
1644
01:24:33,642 --> 01:24:35,642
was with intelligence,
military...
1645
01:24:35,644 --> 01:24:36,810
and diplomatic mid-level...
1646
01:24:36,812 --> 01:24:38,811
- Lower level?
- Lower level.
1647
01:24:38,813 --> 01:24:40,780
The types journalists don't
normally talk to or go after.
1648
01:24:40,782 --> 01:24:42,783
Can I just give a little
credit, also, to the man...
1649
01:24:42,785 --> 01:24:44,718
who was our boss at the time,
John Walcott.
1650
01:24:44,720 --> 01:24:46,887
Higher levels of
civilization...
1651
01:24:46,889 --> 01:24:49,455
must depend even more
heavily...
1652
01:24:49,457 --> 01:24:52,926
on a conscientious respect for
the importance of honesty...
1653
01:24:52,928 --> 01:24:56,829
and clarity in reporting the
facts and out of stubborn...
1654
01:24:56,831 --> 01:25:02,468
concern for accuracy in
determining what the facts are.
1655
01:25:02,470 --> 01:25:07,240
We need to find some way
to cover the world so that...
1656
01:25:07,242 --> 01:25:09,543
we know what's happening
out there...
1657
01:25:09,545 --> 01:25:11,311
that we know the truth
about it...
1658
01:25:11,313 --> 01:25:15,882
so we can avoid mistakes...
1659
01:25:15,884 --> 01:25:18,884
mistakes like Iraq.
1660
01:25:18,886 --> 01:25:21,021
The intelligence was
what it was.
1661
01:25:21,023 --> 01:25:22,888
You know, people like me
couldn't make it up.
1662
01:25:22,890 --> 01:25:24,591
The intelligence
wasn't what it was...
1663
01:25:24,593 --> 01:25:26,560
and not everybody got it wrong.
1664
01:25:26,562 --> 01:25:29,431
Almost everybody did,
except for Knight Ridder.
1665
01:25:29,433 --> 01:25:31,999
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