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A teenager who
stabbed to death
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a 14-year-old boy he met whileplaying online video games--
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Lewis Dane stabbed BreckBednar after grooming him
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via internet--
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Befriended Breck
Bednar online--
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NEWS REPORTER 1:
Then groomed him--
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NEWS REPORTER 2:
Grooming him online.
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FEMALE NEWS REPORTER:
--of other adolescents
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before luring him to his death.
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NARRATOR: On the 17
of February, 2014,
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Surrey schoolboy Breck Bednarwas lured to his death.
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I am thankful for
this Thanksgiving meal,
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because it is definitelythe best that I've ever had.
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NARRATOR: 14-year-oldBreck was a talented gamer.
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He'd been groomed onlinefor nearly a year by someone
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he thought was his best friend.
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NEWS REPORTER:
Lewis Dane stabbed
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Breck Bednar at his flat inGrays, after grooming him
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via internet--
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Breck would have neverthought he was being groomed.
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He just thought that they
hit it off as friends.
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Why Breck?
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There was a group of six.
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Why was Breck the
one who fell for it?
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You know, I sometimes
think, it's like,
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Breck, why did you do this?
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You know, come on.
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For the first time, fiveof Breck's closest friends
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have agreed to speak
about what went so wrong
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within their gaming group.
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Anything you [inaudible]feel comfortable
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with just has to stop.
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These campaigns in schoolwe see, like over time,
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like stranger danger.
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But it wasn't
really like anything
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you see at school before.
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We all sort of fell
into it, into the trap.
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NARRATOR: Told through reallife testimony and drama,
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this is the story of how aninnocent gamer became victim
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of cold blooded
murder, and what led
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a teenager from Essex to killsomeone he had never met.
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911 DISPATCHER [ON THE PHONE]:And who am I speaking to?
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My name is Lewis Daynes.
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I'm 18 years old.
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Hi, Brecky.
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We put up our Christmas
tree at home, sweetie.
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We needed you to do lights.
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It was a bit of a disaster.
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NARRATOR: This will be
Lauren's first Christmas
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without her eldest son, Breck.
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I miss you so
much, sweetheart.
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It's hard for Mommy to havefun in the holidays or any time
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without you.
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Breck was killed on
our mum's birthday.
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Just one day, out of the blue,he just went on a sleep over
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and never came back.
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That's Breck.
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There's me, Carly, and Chloe.
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NARRATOR: The story of whathappened to their older brother
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would send shock wavesthrough the gaming community.
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One morning in February 2014,
without telling anybody,
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14-year-old Breck
got into a taxi
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to travel 30 miles to Essex.
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He was never seen alive again.
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In this photo it captureswhat he loves in one photo.
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You know, he's on thecomputer and he's smiling.
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I remember him being joyousand always laughing and happy.
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Me and Breck all had
the same interests.
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We sat next to
each other in form.
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As well.
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We had the same sense
of humor, I guess.
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I wouldn't say immaturity, butI'd say pretty close to it.
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It's just sort of making
jokes out of everything
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and laughing all the time.
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I'm doing maths,
physics, history,
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and I haven't decided
on what else I'll take.
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Breck was a star student.
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He was doing triple
science, further maths,
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he was top set for everything.
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Really nice person, Breck.
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Yeah, he got on with everyone.
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NARRATOR: Every day afterschool, like thousands
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of other teenagers across thecountry, Breck and his friends
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would go home to meet up intheir virtual world on the best
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gaming server they'd
ever come across.
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I first met Breck
because I invited
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some other boys onto the serverwho were friends with Breck.
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And they, in turn,
invited Breck on.
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I think at first we
met through Minecraft.
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Liam [inaudible] me
they were on this server
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and it would be cool
if I joined them.
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Breck introduced me to server.
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Yeah, we were all good friends.
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Good fun for everyone.
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Get on when we got home,just sort of start talking.
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GAMER: Hello.
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All right, I'm joining now.
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What are you guys playing?
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Probably have your mates over.
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I guess?
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What are you guys up to?
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GAMER: I'm already
playing [inaudible]..
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Oh, isn't that just brilliant.
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Can I join?
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GAMER: Yeah, sure.
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Who's on the
channel at the moment?
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I first saw
TeamSpeak, I thought
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it was the coolest
thing I'd ever seen.
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Breck was so proud to showme this is how it works,
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this is what it does.
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And having all those friends ofhim speaking to him real time,
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and they were sharing videoclips and playing games,
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and it was like they were in aclubhouse, a virtual clubhouse.
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I just want to hang
on the [inaudible] rock.
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Come on.
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Yeah, I'm going to hit you.
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Why?
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[inaudible]
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I think at the time, wemajorly played Battlefield 3.
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I know it was a
favorite with Breck.
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I guess it's boys andguns, something like that.
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Breck was probably
the best shooter.
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It's just a way to--
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it was just a way
to escape, really.
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It was quite exciting.
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[inaudible]
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And you could sort
of like, smuggle drugs,
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or like, be a police officer.
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If we felt like it,
just become a crook
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or cop and just abuse the law.
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Set you on a
flaming torch, whoa!
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This sort of excitingcriminal world, and then like,
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log off and have fishfingers and chips for tea.
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NARRATOR: The owner of
their favorite server
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was someone none of
the boys had ever met,
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17-year-old computer
whiz, Lewis Daynes.
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Made it quite clear
that he owned the server
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and ran things, but there wasno like, formal introduction
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or anything.
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It was just, hi, I'm Lewis.
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Lewis was very inviting.
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He allowed everyone on.
There wasn't a password.
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Breck?
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So whereabouts are you?
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I'm at the Tara, sniping.OK, watch out.
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[interposing voices]
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[gun shots]
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They're on the left,
left, look up left.
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OK, come on.
I'll cover you.
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I'll cover you.
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LEWIS: So I'm getting shot at.
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[inaudible] quicker then.
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LEWIS: Cover me.
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I am, I am.
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Get down.
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Get down.
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Someone behind you.
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He was a few
years older than us,
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so he was like, the mature onethat everyone looked up to.
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We were only 13, 14.
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[scream]
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[laughter]
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Too easy, too easy.
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He seemed to have
quite a lot more
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experience in life and computersand stuff than any of us.
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We were sort of really in aweof his like, technical ability.
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He could just doanything on the computer.
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Me and Breck, we
really liked coding,
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and he would encourage usto sort of code and stuff
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like that.
- Oh, shit.
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Cover me, cover me,
cover me, cover me.
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Too many people.
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LEWIS: Can you get
down [inaudible]
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No, no, no, I can't.
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One, two-- yes!
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Right through the eyes.
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You could always hear
before you could see,
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and even though he had
his big deep voice,
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he'd be giggling away,
teenage fun and games.
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Breck would spend
all of his money,
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his birthday money,
his Christmas
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money, on his computer stuff.
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And he had three big screens.
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There was always
something going on.
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The center usually
was the gaming screen,
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and the right was
more interactive
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and things would pop up.
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On the left was sort
of his message screen.
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Right there where
I saw the avatar
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of Daynes who wasn't Daynes.
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GAMER: How was your day?
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LIAM: It was good.
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We got to see "The Mad
Max" in the cinema,
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and we were the
only two in there.
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It was empty.
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Oh my god.
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I think some of his friendswere probably there just
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to play the games, but
Breck was very in tune
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with the technology
that was going on.
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Lewis Daynes was
somebody that had skills
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or wherewithal to teachBreck something new about it,
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and he was learning.
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BRECK'S FATHER: Hey, Breck.
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Hey, Breck.
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[inaudible]
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As a child, he
was always attracted
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to machines and electronics.
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Two, one--
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BARRY BEDNAR: One of our bigbonds, we would build models.
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We would build rockets.
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And when he was like
three years old,
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they called him a
boy genius because he
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was always fixing things.
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And as he got older,
he kind of transferred
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those talents to computing.
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He was able to fix and modifyand make things happen.
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And that was one of his
big passions in life
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was doing that.
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When Breck first gothis computer, he built it.
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He bought all the PCUs andgraphics cards and motherboards
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and stuff like that so that hecould get the exact computer
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that he wanted.
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Breck really looked
up to Lewis as a mentor,
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because of Lewis being moreknowledgeable about computers.
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He just wanted to soak in everysort of ounce of information
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that would help
him in his career.
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NARRATOR: What Lorin
didn't know was her son
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was gaming with a
teenager who spent
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his days prowling the internet,looking for young gamers
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to befriend.
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LEWIS: Yeah, is anybody here?
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NARRATOR: In Breck,
Lewis Daynes quickly
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detected someone
he could impress
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with his computer skills.
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Yeah, this server is thequickest one I've ever been on.
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It's so fast.
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How do, um, how
do you do it all?
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I mean, I've run
at optimum level.
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And my network,
it's impenetrable.
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Boom!
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So where are you now?
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I'm in New York, Breck.
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Wait, are you in New York now?
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LEWIS: Yeah.
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I mean, [inaudible]
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What, on this?
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No, Breck.
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I do have a life.
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Been testing security
for the US government.
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You're a hacker.
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I can't say that.
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That's all you're gettingfrom me, I'm afraid.
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BRECK: Oh, go on.
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No, no, no, [inaudible]
might be picking
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up these communications online.
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By day I run the computertechnology company.
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No way.
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I'm also a computer engineer.
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Are you serious?
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Yeah, totally serious.
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That's like my dream job.
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NARRATOR: While Lewis claimed tobe running a computer company,
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he was really unemployed,living alone in a flat in Essex,
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spinning a web of lies.
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At the time he was partof a million dollar company.
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Made over two
quid in Bitcoins.
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He told me he'd made
about two million pounds
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off of this virtual currency.
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That's what he said,
and I believed him.
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BRECK: 2 million?
- Mhm.
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BRECK: Really?
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Yeah, and I gave
most of it away.
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It was was quite,
you know, like, wow.
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As a computer engineer donework for the government there.
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He was very private abouthis job and what he did.
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He sort of kept thischaracter of sort of mystery.
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Can't say it but it's top
secret government stuff.
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You know, need to know basis.
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BRECK: Go on.
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No, Breck, that's all
you're getting from me.
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He had his own apartment,a [inaudible] rich,
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independent, job in computing,traveling around the world.
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Everything that Lewis
was saying was sort
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of Breck's ideal lifestyle.
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If you got any technicalissues, just give me a shout.
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I'll give you a hand.
BRECK: Yeah, definitely.
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Nice on.
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When I would go into
the room, Breck would
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sometimes say, my mom's here.
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Mum's here, anyway, now.
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The other boys
would just go quiet,
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but Lewis was very confidentand would say, oh, hey, mom.
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How you doing?
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And I'd ask him, what
have you been doing?
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You know, what have you been--
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what do you like about New York?
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New York's great.
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I mean, I haven't
been doing much.
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Just working.
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I'd say, why aren't you
out with a girlfriend?
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Or why aren't you
out with a friend?
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Oh, I'm just
staying in tonight.
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A lot of times his
answers would be vague.
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I thought, why is a 17
going on 18-year-old
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hanging out with
14-year-old boys
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Friday and Saturday
nights online?
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And I thought, you know, what issort of wrong with this person,
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that he's not
actually interacting
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with people his own age?
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It seemed unusual, and itdid put sort of little niggle
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of worry in my mind.
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NARRATOR: Breck had only beenpart of Lewis's gaming group
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for a few months, but
some of the older boys
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were becoming suspicious.
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I'd talked to Lewis then forabout a year and a half, which
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is quite a long time
to go without actually
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meeting this person.
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Everyone else was prettyopen out their appearance.
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We had pretty much
everyone on Facebook.
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We'd all connect
through social media.
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Lewis didn't have any
social networking,
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would share his face.
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So we had no idea
what he looked like.
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I had Breck around for asleep over, Skyped Lewis.
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Lewis's screen was
almost pitch black.
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It was just-- you didn'treally see much of Lewis.
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There were no lights on
in the rest of the room.
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It was pretty much silhouetted.
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I thought it was a
little bit weird.
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I didn't really expecthim to sort of skulk away
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in the shadows,
because, you know,
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he sounded like he'd livethis glamorous lifestyle,
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and you think he'd be
a bit more confident.
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NARRATOR: Lewis had
every reason to hide.
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He'd already built
up a large network
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of young gamers in anattempt to groom one of them.
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Breck, with his passionfor computer programming,
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was becoming a promising target.
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BRECK: Shoot him in the face!
- I'm trying, Breck.
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I'm trying, I'm trying, .
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Burn this place to shit.
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BRECK: I've been
meaning to ask you--
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LEWIS: Mhm?
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I want to try out
a mod, and I was
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wondering if you could,
like, chalk up a server
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so we could try it out.
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Oh, yeah.
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I've just got this
server in Germany.
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- Oh, really?
- Hm.
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I mean, I'm kind of usingit for work, testing things.
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How much space do you need?
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Uh, like 60 gig,
but obviously,
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it has to be really fast.
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LEWIS: Of course it's fast.
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It's mine, Breck.
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What's the mod?
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BRECK: It's just some graphicalmod I've been working on.
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LEWIS: Oh yeah, forgot youwere a bit of a smart ass.
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Well, hardly managing my ownmultimillion pound company yet,
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but--
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LEWIS: You want to startthinking about it, Breck.
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Yeah, right.
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I'm 14.
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So?
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I was hacking my
schools internet at 14.
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Lewis sort of gave
him this confidence.
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You're a bright guy.
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You're really intelligent.
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You're good at computing--
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just played into everythingBreck wanted to hear.
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You've got a very brightfuture ahead of you.
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You have so much potential.
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Your knowledge of computersystems is extensive.
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Use that, Breck,
to your advantage.
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Very intelligent young man.
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Listen, Breck.
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I need to dash and I'vegot [inaudible] to get to.
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Thanks.
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LEWIS: I'll speak
to you later, yeah?
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BRECK: Yeah, cool.
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NARRATOR: Since Breck'smurder, his mother, Lorin,
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has spoken publicly to raise
awareness of the dangers
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of online grooming.
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Tweet here from John.
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The buck stops with parents.
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What would you say to
that point by John?
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I thought Breck was
safe in his bedroom
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where I could hear what he wassaying, see what he was doing,
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but I didn't realize,
you know, until too late
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how dangerous it was.
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Lewis wanted Breck
24/7 on that computer.
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Well, if I asked him,
you know, why does
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Lewis not have other friends?
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Why is he always
available for gaming?
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And he'd say, oh, it's becauseit's what he likes to do.
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Or his friends have
moved away, or--
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I didn't feel like
Breck would ever
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say, yeah, that is weird, mom.
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00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:42,360
Breck never said that.
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LORIN [ON TV]: Breck
would have never
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known he was being groomed,because it's so subtle
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and it's not always sexual.
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It can sometimes just
be a lot of compliments,
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a lot of attention.
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00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,880
Oh, I just thought
of it as he was like,
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having fun with his friends.
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It didn't seem that dangerous.
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It would only seem dangerousif, like, he didn't know them
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and they weren't his friends.
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LORIN [ON TV]: You know, youstart to trust people online,
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but then you have to
think that maybe they
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have some underlying motive.
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NARRATOR: After
six months, Lewis
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was winning Breck's trust.
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He now encouraged Breck to speakto him on a private channel
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so his friends couldn't hearhow he was being manipulated.
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LEWIS: I think you're making astupid mistake, sticking around
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with school and university.
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Don't limit yourself
with social conventions.
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00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,080
There's a bigger picture
for you here, Breck.
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I don't know.
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I always just thoughtI'd go to uni, I suppose.
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LEWIS: Do you actuallybuy into that crap, Breck.
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BRECK: What, education?
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00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,080
Yeah, Pythagoras, geometry--
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00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:48,960
what's that about?
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00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,880
What's the point in GCSEs?
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00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:53,760
You know, what, so youend up with a certificate
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00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:55,040
at the end of the three years?
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Pathetic And what
about life experience?
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Practically-- doing the work.
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That's what you need.
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00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:02,040
I mean, look at me.
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00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,440
I left school at 16, and nowI'm running my own company.
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00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,800
Yeah, yeah, like,
now you mention
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00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:11,840
it, like Steve Jobs justleft Reed College, didn't he,
439
00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:13,560
to set up Apple?
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00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:15,520
And then Mark Zuckerberg
dropped out of Harvard
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00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:16,960
and I look at Facebook.
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00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:18,600
Exactly.
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00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:20,200
BRECK: Yeah.
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00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,480
So you know, Breck, you couldfollow in their footsteps.
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00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,840
Yeah, you understand aboutcomputing and coding,
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00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:25,840
how it works.
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00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:27,560
You've got technical aptitude.
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00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:31,200
You know, it's like yourbrain is wired the right way.
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00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:32,160
BRECK: Do you think so?
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00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:33,280
Yeah.
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Use that, Breck,
to your advantage,
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00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,480
and you'll up with 2million bitcoins, like me.
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00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:40,400
2 million-- think of what
you can do with that?
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Yeah, and don't get
me started on church.
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00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,200
Who needs that?
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There were a lot of
things that he didn't
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00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,040
like about our lifestyle.
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He didn't like us readingmainstream news channels,
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because he felt like they werelying or distorting the truth.
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He was definitely
trying to change
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perceptions on multiple levels.
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He painted himself as quitea sort of liberal, I guess,
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freedom fighter.
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[inaudible] them poor sodsin Syria, being bombed to shit.
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I'm thinking of going
out there, Breck,
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00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,480
and fighting with
the Syrian rebels.
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Wouldn't be the
first time, though.
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BRECK: What do you mean?
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Well, I went out to
Egypt a few years back,
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fought with the Egyptian rebels.
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He said he was
going to go to Syria
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as an aid worker,
which I thought,
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oh, that's quite noble.
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You sure you want to do that,though, because it's supposed
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to be really dangerous.
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But then the
morning he went out,
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it's like, oh, goodbye,
good luck, et cetera.
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Then he came back on acouple of hours later saying,
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oh no, the flight's
been canceled.
480
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,080
There was a bomb in Baghdad.
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It's like, oh, OK.
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NARRATOR: Lewis's lies we'regetting more far fetched.
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He was beginning
to lose credibility
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with the older boys.
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Everything he was sayingwasn't really adding up.
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00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:08,440
He was a bit sort of fantasticalfor reality, quite honestly.
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I didn't really believe
that he was in America.
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00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,880
By that point, I waspretty sure he wasn't who
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he was saying he was.
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You know nothing.
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So often I'd be a bit
rude or a bit sarcastic,
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and he didn't like
that very much.
493
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:28,560
Hey, dude.
You poked?
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LEWIS: Yeah, they
were annoying me.
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00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:31,280
Yeah, what happened to Liam?
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LEWIS: Booted him.
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That guy annoys me every day.
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How come?
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LEWIS: Spouting bollocks.
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Was just chatting
about school.
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LEWIS: Yeah, that
is the bollocks.
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It's my server.
I can do what I want.
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Lewis, by the end of the day,was the owner of the server.
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So if someone startedannoying him quite a lot,
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then he would just
simply restrict
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their access by banning them.
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00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,280
This isn't going to carry on.
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00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,080
I won't tell you again.
509
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:01,640
Shut the fuck up.
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00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:03,160
They began to
sort of feel like he
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00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:08,720
was segregating everyoneelse from Breck by arguing,
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pushing them away.
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FRIEND: I mean, we had quite afew conversations with Breck.
514
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,040
And the conversation
[inaudible] sort of just
515
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,480
involved, we're your
real life friends.
516
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:21,040
Why are you sort of
focusing more on someone
517
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,600
that you haven't actually met?
518
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,880
FRIEND: I disliked
him, and I didn't
519
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,160
like the way he spoke to us.
520
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:33,120
And I told him Breck thatgetting in with Lewis
521
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:38,000
was a bad idea, because ofthe way that he treated him
522
00:24:38,120 --> 00:24:42,240
and me and everyone.
523
00:24:42,360 --> 00:24:45,880
But I didn't enforce it.
524
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,080
NARRATOR: Lewis now
told another lie
525
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,920
to ensure the Breck would nolonger listen to his friends.
526
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:52,840
LEWIS: Listen, Breck.
527
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:54,880
I've got some shit news.
528
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:55,880
What?
529
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:57,240
I had them [inaudible].
530
00:24:57,360 --> 00:24:59,760
I tapped into another channel.
531
00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:02,320
I heard them talking
about you, Breck.
532
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,040
What are you talking about?
533
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:10,400
Your friends, they are--
534
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:14,000
well, they said they
don't really like you.
535
00:25:14,120 --> 00:25:15,840
Well, in fact, they
said they hate you.
536
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:19,400
Who said what?
537
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:30,440
Look OK, um, it was Liam.
538
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,400
BRECK: Liam?
539
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,400
Yeah.
540
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,360
Well, and Matt.
541
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:39,280
Yeah, Liam and Matt.
542
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:45,520
Forget about them, Breck.
543
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:49,400
You don't need them anymore.
544
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,640
They're not going
to help your future.
545
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:55,200
They're just going tostop you from doing well.
546
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,480
We've got that bond, Breck,and that's all that matters--
547
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,880
our friendship.
548
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:02,400
You don't need them
anymore, Breck.
549
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,160
We tried to say it to,Breck, like, OK, this guy is
550
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,120
acting really weird.
551
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:15,000
This is scary.
552
00:26:15,120 --> 00:26:17,680
You guys need to get out.
553
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,880
Lewis joined the serverwhile we were having a chat,
554
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,800
began counteractingeverything we were saying,
555
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,520
saying that we werebitchy about Breck to him,
556
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,960
and that we did hate him.
557
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,200
I ended up just saying, oh,
you know what, screw it.
558
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:37,800
I don't have the effort
or time to argue.
559
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,000
All he did was make
our life really shit.
560
00:26:41,120 --> 00:26:42,960
Around November
time a bunch of us
561
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,280
older guys just decided
that was enough.
562
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:46,880
So we decided to leave.
563
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,800
And that was the last
time I spoke to Breck.
564
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:57,800
NARRATOR: Breck stayed
in Lewis's gaming group.
565
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:04,480
Under Lewis's influence, he'dgiven up many of his hobbies,
566
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,720
including air cadets.
567
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,640
I did try and talk
to Breck about why
568
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,440
he started not coming
up, and he just shoved
569
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,960
me off with generic answers.
570
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:18,080
Oh, yeah, I can't.
571
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:19,560
I'm busy.
572
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,480
It was literally likesomeone had flipped a switch
573
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:23,520
and he just stops.
574
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:32,080
The smiling, happy Breckjust wasn't there anymore.
575
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,040
He kept everything to himselfand became much more isolated.
576
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,920
Looking back, that wasprobably a sign that something
577
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:41,840
wasn't quite right.
578
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:53,800
NARRATOR: Lewis had
been grooming Breck
579
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,120
for eight months, and nowthere was only one person
580
00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,760
standing in his way.
581
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:02,600
Breck would have
his headphones on,
582
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,280
and I'd be standing
there with Breck,
583
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,440
saying, Breck, you need to comeand do this couple of things.
584
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,480
And he'd have Daynesliterally in his ear saying,
585
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:11,400
you don't have to do that.
586
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:12,800
Don't listen to her.
587
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,040
You don't have to do that.
588
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,720
Don't listen to her.
589
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,400
I had to do
something about it.
590
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:26,000
So we had this online chat,and it went back and forth.
591
00:28:26,120 --> 00:28:31,320
I said, why are you trying totell me how to raise my son?
592
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,680
And he would say, well, hedoesn't want to go to church.
593
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:34,880
Why do you make him?
594
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:35,960
He doesn't believe in God.
595
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:37,880
It's a waste of time.
596
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,040
And I would say, well,that's what we do as a family.
597
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,280
And it's one hour a week.
598
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,880
I'm not asking, you know,for a full time commitment.
599
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:48,480
And he'd say--
600
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:49,880
Why are you forcing Breckto do chores when it's really
601
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:51,320
the triplets who make the mess?
602
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,680
Well, he shouldn't haveto do any of these chores.
603
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:55,960
And then he always had athing where he would say,
604
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:57,440
Breck's a good boy.
605
00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:58,360
He doesn't smoke.
606
00:28:58,480 --> 00:28:59,640
He doesn't do drugs.
607
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:00,800
You know, why can't
you just let him be?
608
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:02,720
Breck gets good grades.
609
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,040
Well can't you let him beon the Wi-Fi when he wants?
610
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,240
I just, listen, he's my son.
611
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:08,720
I care about him.
612
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,040
All of my rules, everythingthat we do as a family
613
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:12,520
is because I love him.
614
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,840
And I wrote, and that's that.
615
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:16,960
End of story.
616
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:18,240
And that was it.
617
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,040
That was the absolute
last time that we
618
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:22,600
had any conversations together.
619
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:27,960
Dude, are you there?
620
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:28,880
Hello?
621
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,400
LEWIS: Yeah.
622
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,680
Oh my god, so my mom hasjust gone absolutely mad.
623
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:33,800
She's really panicking.
624
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:35,880
And like, she's
called my dad in--
625
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,160
Yeah, and she gets off onmaking out like I'm some sort
626
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,080
of creepy criminal, Breck.
627
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,200
She's threatening to take awaylike all my computer equipment,
628
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:44,640
and I actually think
she's going to do
629
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:46,800
it this time because she'sgoing absolutely mad.
630
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:47,800
She's manipulative you.
631
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:49,480
She's controlling you, Breck.
632
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:50,840
It's abuse.
633
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,120
She might your mum, but
she's a total failure.
634
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:55,760
It was painfully
obvious that Lewis
635
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:59,360
Daynes was encouraging Breckto act out against his mother.
636
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:03,280
I was horrified, and you know,I spoke to Breck about it.
637
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:07,680
He initially said, he's a goodguy and has a great heart.
638
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,360
We challenged that.
You're 14.
639
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:10,320
You really don't know.
640
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,520
I'm not some stranger, OK?
641
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,480
She's going to isolate youfrom you and your friends,
642
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:15,760
including me.
643
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:17,400
Is that what you want?
644
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,240
I told Breck, we don't knowthis guy, if he's good or bad.
645
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:21,120
He may be great.
646
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:22,800
He may be not.
647
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,200
We just don't know, and it's ourjob to protect you as parents.
648
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:27,520
They just want
to meet you, and I
649
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,200
know it's like a
really massive ask,
650
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,400
but is there any way that youcould just come and meet them
651
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,120
so that they'll stopgoing on at me like this?
652
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:34,400
You know I can't do that, OK?
653
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:35,520
I've got too much
work on at the moment,
654
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,760
too many responsibilities.
655
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:39,120
He would never do it.
656
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:40,640
So that was when we
really got concerned.
657
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,080
I just had this
image that he was
658
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,640
a 40-year-old fat
pedophile sitting
659
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:49,000
behind the computer screen.
660
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:50,880
So I called the police.
661
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,200
I wanted to know if Dayneswas known to the police.
662
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,640
I passed over Daynes full name.
663
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:01,760
Breck had told me he was 18.
664
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,480
Breck had told me he was
from Essex, originally.
665
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,440
And I gave as much
information as I could.
666
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:12,520
I was just told that the
system would be checked.
667
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,240
In our wildest
dreams, we thought maybe
668
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,080
because of these war
games and the fact
669
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,520
he was talking about Syria,maybe he was radicalizing
670
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,600
these kids for terrorism.
671
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:21,480
We didn't know.
672
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:25,640
NARRATOR: Desperate
to persuade Breck
673
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,800
to give up his
friendship with Lewis,
674
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,400
Lorin contacted other parents.
675
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,200
BRECK: She just doesn't
understand any of this.
676
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:33,880
She's panicking.
677
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,160
She's going to call thismeeting with another point
678
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,880
and his parents to
discuss the situation.
679
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:40,200
It's like totally ridiculous.
680
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:41,560
I don't know what I'm
going to with that.
681
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:42,680
LEWIS: [inaudible]Breck, your mom shouldn't
682
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:44,120
be controlling what you do.
683
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:48,960
Breck, you know
what you need to do?
684
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:50,640
You need to record that
[inaudible] meeting.
685
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:52,120
Get it on tape.
686
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:53,400
BRECK: What do you
mean record it?
687
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:54,720
Record it.You're an intelligent lad.
688
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:55,600
You'll figure it out.
689
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,640
BRECK: Yeah, I guess it
would be kind of funny.
690
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,280
At least then you can seeexactly what she's been
691
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,600
saying to me for this long.
692
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:13,920
Exactly, Breck.
693
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:15,400
We'll have a good laugh.
694
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,600
I mean, maybe we could evensend it into the police.
695
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:19,680
That would sort her out.
696
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:23,920
Do you want to do
that for me, Breck?
697
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,040
BRECK: Yeah.
698
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:26,960
Yeah, I will.
699
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:27,840
Good lad.
700
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,440
NARRATOR: Breck's secret
recording of the meeting
701
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:36,920
was later found by police.
702
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:39,120
NARRATOR: Sensing his parentsweren't going to back down,
703
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:40,360
Breck gave in.
704
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,720
NARRATOR: To make sureBreck did what he promised,
705
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:21,680
Lorin took away all
his computer equipment.
706
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:26,640
Breck was very upset
and quite annoyed at mum
707
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,640
that she was being so mean.
708
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:36,080
He thought she was
just punishing him.
709
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,560
He didn't realize that shewas trying to save him.
710
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:45,840
I listened out for his name.
711
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,960
We listen for Lewis, we
listened for a new name,
712
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,400
maybe a new alias.
713
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,560
I listened for his voice,and the sad thing is is it
714
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,600
all went underground afterI forbade him from speaking.
715
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,400
Christmas 2013 was
a great Christmas.
716
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,800
I remember that the kidscame to my house as well,
717
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:07,280
and we had all
sorts of presents,
718
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:11,520
and Breck got a new
hoodie that he wanted.
719
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,200
It was like we had Breck
back because he wasn't
720
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,640
on the computer all
the time, and it was
721
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,360
kind of good to see him there.
722
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:19,280
I was very happy.
723
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:26,200
NARRATOR: But after
nine months of
724
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,600
intense psychological
pressure, Lewis wasn't
725
00:35:28,720 --> 00:35:31,240
going to give him up easily.
726
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:35,080
He secretly couriered
him a phone.
727
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,800
And believing their son wasover his friendship with Lewis,
728
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,160
Breck's parents gave
him his computers back.
729
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:46,000
This is like the last
picture we have of him.
730
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:47,240
It was a week before he died.
731
00:35:51,720 --> 00:35:53,400
That was right before
he went to Spain.
732
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:13,360
His Spanish trip, Ithink he really enjoyed it.
733
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:18,400
He met a girl that he liked,and to see Breck post a picture
734
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,520
of him and a girl
together, I was a bit,
735
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,520
I thought, oh, that's nice.
736
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,320
So that's good for
him, you know, to have
737
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:31,400
that for the first time.
738
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:37,800
I remember picking up
Breck at the airport.
739
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:38,680
He looked tall.
740
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,520
He looked confident.
741
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:41,520
And he had a great time.
742
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,040
After we got back,
he asked if he
743
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,160
could go to a friend's house.
744
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,920
I was so happy that he wantedto go and physically hang
745
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:54,200
out with one of
his friends instead
746
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,920
of being on the computer
that I said, OK.
747
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:58,560
And he gave me the name of him.
748
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:00,200
He said it was Tom,
and he was dead.
749
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:01,520
And I said, do you
want me to take you?
750
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,880
He says, no, no,
I'll take care of it.
751
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,280
He texted me after
a couple hours
752
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,920
and he said that he wouldlike to spend the night.
753
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:11,840
They had pizza.
754
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:13,280
I'd be really proud of him.
755
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:14,840
He was going to be workingon some computer stuff,
756
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:16,520
and they were trying to makea faster operating system
757
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,160
for something which, sounded--
758
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:19,040
OK, great.
759
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,320
That's fine.
760
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,040
And I didn't think
anything of it.
761
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:24,720
I was happy that he was
with one of his friends.
762
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:33,920
NARRATOR: The next
morning, when Tom
763
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,600
logged onto TeamSpeak,
it became clear
764
00:37:36,720 --> 00:37:39,760
that something was very wrong.
765
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:46,160
It was the first day of halfterm and I was home alone,
766
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,560
and I got up fairly
early because I couldn't
767
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:49,440
sleep the night before.
768
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,480
Didn't sleep so well.
769
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:57,320
I went on the computer fora bit, then Lewis came on.
770
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:05,240
He said that, you know,there had been a accident,
771
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:10,360
that Breck had come
round to Lewis's house,
772
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:15,040
sort of depressed
and suicidal, tried
773
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:16,280
to hurt himself with a knife--
774
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:23,560
911 DISPATCHER [ON THE PHONE]:Essex Police Emergency.
775
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:26,960
--and that Breck was dead.
776
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,240
911 DISPATCHER [ON THE
PHONE]: What's happened?
777
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,640
My friend came
to stay the night
778
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:43,480
with me yesterday, was feelingvery down, feeling suicidal.
779
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,520
I was scared.
780
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,880
At first I though
maybe it's a joke.
781
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,120
Tried to calm him down.
782
00:38:51,240 --> 00:38:57,480
I hugged him and said that[inaudible] was bad for him.
783
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:58,720
911 DISPATCHER [ON
THE PHONE]: Right.
784
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:00,000
OK.
785
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,080
I have a pen knife
adjacent to my bed.
786
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,160
I have a chest of drawers.
787
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,120
I've got aftershave andthe TV and stuff on that.
788
00:39:08,240 --> 00:39:10,360
I had a pen knife
on their folded.
789
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:11,960
He picked it up, opened it--
790
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:13,400
NARRATOR: The news
spread quickly
791
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,560
amongst Breck's gaming friends.
792
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:17,120
I sort of came
on to the TeamSpeak
793
00:39:17,240 --> 00:39:20,520
and was told that
Breck had died.
794
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:24,360
He picked it up, openedit, and then lost control.
795
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,240
911 DISPATCHER [ON THE PHONE]:In order to harm himself?
796
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,880
No, in order to
harm me, he opened it,
797
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,080
and then lost control.
798
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:31,040
911 DISPATCHER [ON
THE PHONE]: Right.
799
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:32,720
OK.
800
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,280
I was just sort of shocked.
801
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:39,040
I just sort of sat there, sortof at my computer, just sort
802
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,840
of just in silence, really.
803
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:43,440
Can you not interrupt
me with this part?
804
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:44,440
911 DISPATCHER [ON
THE PHONE]: OK, go on.
805
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:45,720
OK.
806
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:47,000
This is being recorded,
anyway, isn't it?
807
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:48,320
911 DISPATCHER [ON
THE PHONE]: Yep.
808
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:52,000
I grabbed the knife
and I stabbed him once
809
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,160
in the back of the
neck, I believe
810
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,360
somewhere near the brain stem.
811
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,200
He turned around, tried to--
812
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,360
That was when it waslike, holy shit, like, this
813
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,000
has actually happened.
814
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:08,960
Breck must have diedfeeling incredibly alone.
815
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:14,800
He was on his own with this guywho promises him everything,
816
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:19,960
ended up living in apretty rough area of Essex
817
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:21,400
in like a small flat.
818
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,600
I don't remember
exactly what happened,
819
00:40:27,720 --> 00:40:31,680
but the fight ended
with cutting his throat.
820
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:36,400
I believe I turned aroundand I slashed his throat.
821
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:37,520
Why?
822
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,720
Why would-- I don't
understand why
823
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:44,520
he would do that, to buildup the trust and friendship
824
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:48,520
and then to murder him.
825
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:49,960
I was just so shocked.
826
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:51,600
I just could believe it.
827
00:40:51,720 --> 00:40:53,040
I couldn't believe it.
828
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:54,200
911 DISPATCHER [ON THEPHONE]: You're telling me
829
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:55,960
he's definitely dead.
830
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:57,640
Yes, I'm telling you
he's definitely dead.
831
00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:58,760
911 DISPATCHER [ON
THE PHONE]: Can
832
00:40:58,880 --> 00:40:59,880
you just bear with me a second?
833
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:01,320
Don't tell me anymore.
834
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,400
At first we just
sort of thought,
835
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,920
maybe it was just an accident.
836
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:09,040
They may have had an argument,or like Lewis had said,
837
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,920
Breck tried to commit suicideand he tried to stop him.
838
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:13,960
Although, it did
sound ridiculous.
839
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,080
You know, how can
you accidentally
840
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:17,440
stab someone in the neck?
841
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:18,760
911 DISPATCHER [ON THE
PHONE]: Right, you've
842
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:20,160
left the weapon in the hallway.LEWIS: Yes.
843
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:21,880
911 DISPATCHER [ON THE
PHONE]: And has spend
844
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:23,920
how long sitting in the shower?
845
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:25,160
LEWIS: I--I don't know.
846
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:26,600
Look, are the
police on their way?
847
00:41:26,720 --> 00:41:27,880
I can hear something--
848
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:28,480
911 DISPATCHER [ON
THE PHONE]: They are.
849
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:29,720
They are.
850
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:30,560
LEWIS: I just going
to go [inaudible]
851
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,040
thank you for your help.
852
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:33,280
911 DISPATCHER [ON THEPHONE]: Right, just listen.
853
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:34,800
NARRATOR: The calm
tone of the 999 call
854
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,160
suggested to Essex
Police that Lewis
855
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,360
Daynes was no ordinary killer.
856
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:43,880
What we have is a 14-year-oldboy being groomed to go and see
857
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,480
an 18-year-old man, and
that 18-year-old man has
858
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,440
lied quite significantly
to him about
859
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,800
the reason for that meeting.
860
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,400
That's what I needed tofocus my investigation on.
861
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:05,960
Walking into the flat
was very startling.
862
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:11,480
The hall way had a knife
lying on the floor.
863
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:16,280
In the lounge there wasa bag of clothing cut up.
864
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:21,720
Duct tape in the bins looked asthough it had been used to bind
865
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,320
somebody, and it lookedlike it would be maybe hands
866
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,560
or feet, something like that.
867
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:30,200
In the lounge there
was a tower unit,
868
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:34,400
and there was an externalhard drive on the table.
869
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,800
In the bathroom there wasa sink filled with water,
870
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,160
and there were a numberof devices and hard drives
871
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:44,520
and some phones of that
were covered in water.
872
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:48,120
In the bedroom there was
one laptop on the bed
873
00:42:48,240 --> 00:42:50,200
that was covered in blood.
874
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,960
Breck had a significant
injury to his neck,
875
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,480
and at the end of
the post-mortem,
876
00:42:56,600 --> 00:43:02,160
the declaration of Breck'sdeath was an incision
877
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,040
to the right side of his neck.
878
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:15,120
I have nightmares, and I justkeep playing it over and over
879
00:43:15,240 --> 00:43:17,360
in my mind when I go to bed.
880
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:18,240
What happened?
881
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:19,240
What happened?
882
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,440
You know, was he suffering long?
883
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,880
Was he, you know, was screaming?
884
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,920
Was he crying?
885
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:31,360
It kills me to think at whatpoint things turned for Breck
886
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,880
and he realized, whoa,
I really messed up,
887
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:36,120
and I'm in trouble here.
888
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:47,160
NARRATOR: Lewis maintainedhis story of self-defense,
889
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:51,360
but evidence waspointing to the contrary.
890
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:55,240
We identified that Lewis
Daynes had purchased
891
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,960
duct tape and condoms.
892
00:43:58,080 --> 00:43:59,680
He'd planned this.
893
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:01,680
It's definitely a
good three weeks
894
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:03,960
beforehand that
he's putting things
895
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:07,520
into place to make Breck.
896
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,480
NARRATOR: Despite
Lewis Daynes attempt
897
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,560
to destroy all thecomputer evidence in water,
898
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:17,640
he left one vital clue, Breck's
iPad, which police found
899
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,720
at the bottom of his backpack.
900
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:25,440
On it, proof that Lewis hadcontinued to pursue Breck.
901
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:28,920
I feel completely worthlessin respect of us being friends.
902
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:30,440
I've done nothing wrong.
903
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,400
I've been a good friend toyou for almost a year now.
904
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,040
I've provided a safe--
905
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:35,880
NARRATOR: Police retrieved abarrage of e-mails from Lewis
906
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:40,160
to Breck dating
back to Christmas.
907
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,160
What if she
takes your PC away?
908
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:43,600
What happens then?
909
00:44:43,720 --> 00:44:47,200
And you've responded with,I won't let that happen.
910
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,400
Well, Breck, it's happened.
911
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,440
Your mother has completelyisolated you from your friends.
912
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,800
Lewis Daynes wasconstantly contacting Breck,
913
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:59,680
making sure that Breck's
focus of attention
914
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:01,520
was on Lewis Daynes.
915
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:03,360
CLIFF PELL: I'm being
treated like some kind
916
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,080
of criminal, a creep.
917
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,680
And he would be quitedemanding in the emails, too.
918
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:09,200
Breck, why aren't
you contacting me.
919
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:10,360
What are you doing?
920
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,160
You seem to have
forgotten about me.
921
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:14,440
Breck.
922
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:15,320
Breck.
923
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:22,080
It was scary to thinkthat a young man of that age
924
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,720
would be controlling
in that way.
925
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,600
Daynes has clearly
groomed him to not speak
926
00:45:27,720 --> 00:45:28,920
to anybody else about this.
927
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:30,720
He's just not shared
it with anybody.
928
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:35,360
We do know that Breck gota taxi in the morning,
929
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,320
that that taxi had
been pre-booked
930
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:43,320
by Breck after conversationwith Lewis Daynes two weeks
931
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:44,720
before the date.
932
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:46,720
[inaudible] if your
father asks you where
933
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:48,480
you're going on Sunday,
say you're going
934
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,120
to meet a friend who's 14.
935
00:45:50,240 --> 00:45:52,640
And then just say, I've
spent too many half
936
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,240
terms and holidays indoors.
937
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,520
I'm going to spend thisone outside with friends.
938
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:05,240
Every day, I challengemyself as what could I have
939
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:06,920
done to protect Breck better?
940
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,880
I've been told by thepolice and by everybody else
941
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,840
that you did everything youcould, and you Lewis Daynes
942
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:16,760
is just an evil person.
943
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:21,840
Still, deep down, I
don't believe that.
944
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:23,520
I mean, that's my
responsibility.
945
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,440
I had him and I was
responsible for him.
946
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,800
I let him go to his death.
947
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:31,160
It will haunt us forever.
948
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:36,520
[inaudible] for coming.
949
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:40,320
OK, as Breck's parents, Ithink it's only right that you
950
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,560
should know what we've
actually identified
951
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:44,280
for our investigation.
952
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,480
Just going to explain to you--
953
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,160
NARRATOR: Detectives discoveredthat Lewis Daynes had been
954
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,720
abandoned by his
parents as a child
955
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:53,880
and had grown up in
and out of foster care.
956
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:01,040
Living alone from the ageof 16, he had developed
957
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,000
unhealthy online interests.
958
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:12,240
Lewis was, by his
very nature, obsessive.
959
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:16,440
And he was obsessed with Syria.
960
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:22,440
There's a link that was
sent to the young people
961
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:25,280
about a Syrian beheading,and it's one of the worst
962
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:26,760
that I've ever seen.
963
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:30,800
And there are links inreference to sexual pause,
964
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,400
to sexual behavior.
965
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:38,400
Within the last six months,between September and February,
966
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:43,360
Lewis Daynes was aiming tomeet at least one of the people
967
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,440
within community, and
Breck just happened
968
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:47,760
to be the first person he met.
969
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,560
NARRATOR: Police discoveredLewis Daynes had bought service
970
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:59,440
space in Germany, and hadaccess to an online community
971
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:03,360
of over 400 gamers.
972
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:07,360
He practically
created the sort of,
973
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,360
I guess you'd call an
empire, where he could
974
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,920
just drag in anybody he wants.
975
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,240
He's got service for
games, like Minecraft,
976
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:19,680
which means young kids are goingto want to come on his server.
977
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,120
He can get any teenage guy hewants because he has servers
978
00:48:22,240 --> 00:48:24,800
for games like Team Fortress 2.
979
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:28,040
And he had such endurancethat he talked to them for 2,
980
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,960
3 years until he made his move.
981
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:37,880
Doesn't look like a murderer.
982
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:41,040
Just looking on the EssexPolice page, and someone's
983
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:46,120
commented on the post, oh mygod, I went to school with him.
984
00:48:46,240 --> 00:48:47,720
He was always the
kid that was bullied.
985
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:49,760
Guess he just snapped.
986
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,200
I just feel like this wholesituation could have been
987
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:55,680
averted if we didn't knowLewis, and if we didn't meet him
988
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,240
at all, none of this
would have happened
989
00:48:58,360 --> 00:48:59,320
and Breck would have been alive.
990
00:49:05,240 --> 00:49:07,880
NARRATOR: After a 10
month investigation,
991
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,960
police finally have the answerto why 14-year-old Breck had
992
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,440
secretly gone to Lewis's flat.
993
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:14,840
LEWIS: Breck, Breck,
get on my chat.
994
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:16,160
I want to speak.
BRECK: What?
995
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,120
NARRATOR: It was Lewis's
greatest deception,
996
00:49:19,240 --> 00:49:21,720
and on that would
cost Breck his life.
997
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:23,360
BRECK: Yo, what's up?
998
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:24,920
LEWIS: I'm running
out of time, Breck.
999
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:26,040
BRECK: What are
you talking about?
1000
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,800
Look, Breck, I didn'twant to let on, but I'm--
1001
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:34,720
I'm ill.
1002
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:36,760
BRECK: You're-- you're ill?
1003
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,280
Yeah.
1004
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,160
What, like flu or something?
1005
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:42,480
LEWIS: I don't joke, Breck.
1006
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:43,360
I'm serious.
1007
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:48,920
I'm unable to keep
control of the company.
1008
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:50,520
It's just too much for me.
1009
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,000
I've tried, but it's takingtoo much toll on my health.
1010
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,360
And I've decided I want
to hand it over to you.
1011
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:03,000
What?
1012
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:04,440
Are you joking?
1013
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:06,720
LEWIS: No, and this iswhy I need you to step up.
1014
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:07,880
Because I need you to take over.
1015
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:09,000
What?
1016
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:10,120
Mate, what are
you talking about?
1017
00:50:10,240 --> 00:50:11,080
The company, Breck.
1018
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:12,480
I'm serious.
1019
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,160
I wouldn't lie to you, Breck.
1020
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,120
I need you to take
control of the company.
1021
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:26,160
Grab it with both hands.
1022
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,360
You need to step
up, Breck, for me.
1023
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:29,840
You're not going to
let me down, are you?
1024
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:33,920
When you're back from holiday--
1025
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:35,160
Yeah.
1026
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:36,480
LEWIS: --you'll come
over to my place.
1027
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:37,720
Yeah.
1028
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:39,320
LEWIS: We'll talk
through the details.
1029
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:41,080
I'll hand over the
company to you.
1030
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:44,040
You'll do that
for me, won't you?
1031
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:49,800
Uh-- and you'll
be there with me?
1032
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:51,120
Of course.
1033
00:50:51,240 --> 00:50:52,320
I need you to bring
with you your tablets,
1034
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:53,960
your phone, your
drives, everything,
1035
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:55,560
absolutely everything.
1036
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:58,040
And then I will take you throughthe business, every step.
1037
00:50:58,160 --> 00:50:59,800
And I will be with you
every step of the way
1038
00:50:59,920 --> 00:51:01,960
until you get the hang
of you need to do.
1039
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:06,400
And from there on in, I'llexplain my health situation.
1040
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:07,800
OK.
1041
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:12,680
Uh, all right then.
1042
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,840
Can't wait.
1043
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:16,840
Can't wait to meet you, too.
1044
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:23,800
Yes.
1045
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:36,240
On the morning of a trial,I was due to go as a witness
1046
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:39,160
into court.
1047
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:42,600
And then just before we're aboutto leave, we got a phone call
1048
00:51:42,720 --> 00:51:46,400
saying he's pleaded guilty,which was hard to hear,
1049
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:50,880
because still some part ofme wanted it to be, you know,
1050
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,000
this was an accident.It's just a tragic accident.
1051
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:56,360
It's not, you know, a murder.
1052
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:58,240
NARRATOR: Lewis Daynes
was convicted of murder
1053
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,920
with sexual and
sadistic intent, and was
1054
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:05,280
sentenced to life imprisonment.
1055
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,880
The biggest trend at themoment, the biggest thing
1056
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:11,280
that we're hearing about
is grooming online,
1057
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,800
and this is so hard
to try and police,
1058
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:19,440
because you don't physicallyknow who that person is.
1059
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:21,120
You just got to
notice the signals.
1060
00:52:21,240 --> 00:52:24,600
There were clear signals thatLewis was letting out that were
1061
00:52:24,720 --> 00:52:26,680
dangerous, and you
just need to make sure
1062
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:28,440
that you're picking up on them.
1063
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:31,920
Because that's what's
going to keep you safe.
1064
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:33,480
LORIN: I think there's
so much more we all
1065
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:36,080
need to learn about grooming.
1066
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:39,840
I think we just need
to keep reminding teens
1067
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:44,040
and even younger childrennot to trust people
1068
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:45,640
that we don't online.
1069
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:47,600
I'd like to welcome Lorin[inaudible] for talking to us
1070
00:52:47,720 --> 00:52:49,400
about internet
safety, a topic which
1071
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:53,120
we've been covering and ishighly debated in schools.
1072
00:52:53,240 --> 00:52:55,240
You know, Breck
felt like the friend
1073
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:58,200
that he met online
was a true friend,
1074
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:00,440
and because he met them
through other people
1075
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:04,120
that he knew, friends of
friends, it felt safe.
1076
00:53:04,240 --> 00:53:07,480
And unfortunately,
people aren't always
1077
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:10,240
who they say they are online.
1078
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:13,320
When I made that phone
call to the police,
1079
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:17,640
I wanted to know if Dayneswas known to the police.
1080
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:20,400
Well, Daynes was
known to the police
1081
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:24,360
for prior sexual
activity, allegations
1082
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:28,440
against a 15-year-old boy.
1083
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:32,280
In the system-- this
was in the system.
1084
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:36,600
In my, you know, pretenddreams, the police would come
1085
00:53:36,720 --> 00:53:39,160
to the door, speak
to Breck, and say,
1086
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:40,480
actually, your mom was right.
1087
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:47,000
And Breck would have
finally believed me.
1088
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:48,800
And in my mind,
that is what should
1089
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:53,280
have happened in my life,and my son would be here.
1090
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:55,960
I would still be a
productive human being,
1091
00:53:56,080 --> 00:54:01,560
instead of what I am now,which is a shell of a person.
1092
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:10,760
I'm only alive for the triplets,and I'm not alive for me.
1093
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:21,040
I found this one
in an old folder,
1094
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:24,120
and it's the acceptance
letter for when Breck
1095
00:54:24,240 --> 00:54:26,040
went to [inaudible] school.
1096
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,760
NARRATOR: Breck's
13-year-old siblings
1097
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,080
have to learn to live withthe hole left in their lives.
1098
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:35,240
Do you want to do
some more trimming?
1099
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:36,120
Yeah.
1100
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:41,040
Every day is differentbecause Breck's not here.
1101
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:46,600
He's not in his bedroom.
1102
00:54:46,720 --> 00:54:49,440
He's not on his computer.
1103
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:53,520
Sometimes I still
lay one too many places
1104
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:58,840
at the dinner table, andthat really makes me sad.
1105
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:05,200
It's hard at school.
1106
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:06,760
I kind of don't like
it that everyone
1107
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:09,880
knows about it,
that I'm the sister
1108
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:11,040
of the boy who was murdered.
1109
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:16,240
It's just such an ugly word--
1110
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:17,160
murdered.
1111
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:26,720
Sometimes I just
want to cry and sit
1112
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:29,720
by Breck's tree
at school and cry
1113
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:30,960
instead of having
to go to lessons.
1114
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:42,000
NARRATOR: Today would'vebeen Breck's 16th birthday.
1115
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:45,840
In his memory, Lorin hasdecided to continue visiting
1116
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:49,040
schools to educate teenagers.
1117
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:51,880
I want something good tocome out of Breck's murder.
1118
00:55:54,720 --> 00:55:56,680
It's a known fact
that there are people
1119
00:55:56,800 --> 00:56:00,480
out there, pedophiles groomingteenagers more than we know.
1120
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:05,560
But groomers are
chameleons, and they'll
1121
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:08,800
be who ever they
think they need to be
1122
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:10,920
to convince that
child to do something
1123
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:13,960
they wouldn't normally do.
1124
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:16,800
Happy birthday, Breck,
you're 16 today.
1125
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:20,080
This comes with love to wish youa wonderful day, because you're
1126
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:21,160
such a special son.
1127
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:30,640
We love you, [inaudible].
1128
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:47,960
OK, guys, do you want
to let the balloons off?
1129
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:48,880
Do you miss Brecky?
1130
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:56,800
All right, on the
count of three.
1131
00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:59,480
One, two, three,
happy birthday, Breck.
1132
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:05,520
You know what?
1133
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:08,920
I feel it's my job to get theword out, if the work that I do
1134
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:10,760
can save another life.
1135
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:16,960
See Breck, we
celebrate your birthday
1136
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:18,880
whether you're here or not.
1137
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,520
We miss you, Breck, we love you.
1138
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:24,480
One, two, three.
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