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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:43,240 A teenager who stabbed to death 4 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,320 a 14-year-old boy he met whileplaying online video games-- 5 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:49,000 Lewis Dane stabbed BreckBednar after grooming him 6 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:50,120 via internet-- 7 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:51,240 Befriended Breck Bednar online-- 8 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:52,400 NEWS REPORTER 1: Then groomed him-- 9 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:53,760 NEWS REPORTER 2: Grooming him online. 10 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:54,760 FEMALE NEWS REPORTER: --of other adolescents 11 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:56,880 before luring him to his death. 12 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:00,360 NARRATOR: On the 17 of February, 2014, 13 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:04,880 Surrey schoolboy Breck Bednarwas lured to his death. 14 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,200 I am thankful for this Thanksgiving meal, 15 00:01:07,320 --> 00:01:10,960 because it is definitelythe best that I've ever had. 16 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:14,640 NARRATOR: 14-year-oldBreck was a talented gamer. 17 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:17,560 He'd been groomed onlinefor nearly a year by someone 18 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:19,920 he thought was his best friend. 19 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:21,520 NEWS REPORTER: Lewis Dane stabbed 20 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,520 Breck Bednar at his flat inGrays, after grooming him 21 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,960 via internet-- 22 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:32,360 Breck would have neverthought he was being groomed. 23 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:36,440 He just thought that they hit it off as friends. 24 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:38,000 Why Breck? 25 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:39,640 There was a group of six. 26 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:42,600 Why was Breck the one who fell for it? 27 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:43,960 You know, I sometimes think, it's like, 28 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:45,280 Breck, why did you do this? 29 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:46,200 You know, come on. 30 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:54,040 For the first time, fiveof Breck's closest friends 31 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,320 have agreed to speak about what went so wrong 32 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:58,760 within their gaming group. 33 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:00,640 Anything you [inaudible]feel comfortable 34 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,520 with just has to stop. 35 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:05,520 These campaigns in schoolwe see, like over time, 36 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:06,840 like stranger danger. 37 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:08,760 But it wasn't really like anything 38 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:10,360 you see at school before. 39 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:17,640 We all sort of fell into it, into the trap. 40 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:21,160 NARRATOR: Told through reallife testimony and drama, 41 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:24,520 this is the story of how aninnocent gamer became victim 42 00:02:24,640 --> 00:02:27,360 of cold blooded murder, and what led 43 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,840 a teenager from Essex to killsomeone he had never met. 44 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:34,000 911 DISPATCHER [ON THE PHONE]:And who am I speaking to? 45 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:35,480 My name is Lewis Daynes. 46 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:36,520 I'm 18 years old. 47 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:01,080 Hi, Brecky. 48 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:09,160 We put up our Christmas tree at home, sweetie. 49 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,760 We needed you to do lights. 50 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:12,680 It was a bit of a disaster. 51 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:19,920 NARRATOR: This will be Lauren's first Christmas 52 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:23,840 without her eldest son, Breck. 53 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,480 I miss you so much, sweetheart. 54 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:28,880 It's hard for Mommy to havefun in the holidays or any time 55 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:29,800 without you. 56 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,040 Breck was killed on our mum's birthday. 57 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:44,200 Just one day, out of the blue,he just went on a sleep over 58 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:45,120 and never came back. 59 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:50,480 That's Breck. 60 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:52,640 There's me, Carly, and Chloe. 61 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,520 NARRATOR: The story of whathappened to their older brother 62 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:03,960 would send shock wavesthrough the gaming community. 63 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:14,680 One morning in February 2014, without telling anybody, 64 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,040 14-year-old Breck got into a taxi 65 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,960 to travel 30 miles to Essex. 66 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:22,400 He was never seen alive again. 67 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:33,280 In this photo it captureswhat he loves in one photo. 68 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:35,880 You know, he's on thecomputer and he's smiling. 69 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:45,800 I remember him being joyousand always laughing and happy. 70 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:55,600 Me and Breck all had the same interests. 71 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:56,920 We sat next to each other in form. 72 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:58,200 As well. 73 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:01,040 We had the same sense of humor, I guess. 74 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,320 I wouldn't say immaturity, butI'd say pretty close to it. 75 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:06,520 It's just sort of making jokes out of everything 76 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,040 and laughing all the time. 77 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,560 I'm doing maths, physics, history, 78 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:17,360 and I haven't decided on what else I'll take. 79 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,440 Breck was a star student. 80 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:24,640 He was doing triple science, further maths, 81 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:26,800 he was top set for everything. 82 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:28,480 Really nice person, Breck. 83 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:30,880 Yeah, he got on with everyone. 84 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,160 NARRATOR: Every day afterschool, like thousands 85 00:05:43,280 --> 00:05:46,240 of other teenagers across thecountry, Breck and his friends 86 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:50,280 would go home to meet up intheir virtual world on the best 87 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:53,960 gaming server they'd ever come across. 88 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:57,320 I first met Breck because I invited 89 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:02,400 some other boys onto the serverwho were friends with Breck. 90 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:07,320 And they, in turn, invited Breck on. 91 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:10,960 I think at first we met through Minecraft. 92 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,560 Liam [inaudible] me they were on this server 93 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:17,040 and it would be cool if I joined them. 94 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,840 Breck introduced me to server. 95 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,240 Yeah, we were all good friends. 96 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:23,520 Good fun for everyone. 97 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,560 Get on when we got home,just sort of start talking. 98 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:33,960 GAMER: Hello. 99 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,280 All right, I'm joining now. 100 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:37,600 What are you guys playing? 101 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:38,680 Probably have your mates over. 102 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:42,200 I guess? 103 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:43,480 What are you guys up to? 104 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:44,760 GAMER: I'm already playing [inaudible].. 105 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:46,320 Oh, isn't that just brilliant. 106 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:47,240 Can I join? 107 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:48,400 GAMER: Yeah, sure. 108 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:49,680 Who's on the channel at the moment? 109 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,040 I first saw TeamSpeak, I thought 110 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:53,720 it was the coolest thing I'd ever seen. 111 00:06:53,840 --> 00:06:56,120 Breck was so proud to showme this is how it works, 112 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:57,800 this is what it does. 113 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:00,160 And having all those friends ofhim speaking to him real time, 114 00:07:00,280 --> 00:07:02,720 and they were sharing videoclips and playing games, 115 00:07:02,840 --> 00:07:06,440 and it was like they were in aclubhouse, a virtual clubhouse. 116 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:08,240 I just want to hang on the [inaudible] rock. 117 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,120 Come on. 118 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,520 Yeah, I'm going to hit you. 119 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:13,400 Why? 120 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:15,400 [inaudible] 121 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:22,120 I think at the time, wemajorly played Battlefield 3. 122 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:23,560 I know it was a favorite with Breck. 123 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:30,480 I guess it's boys andguns, something like that. 124 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:34,000 Breck was probably the best shooter. 125 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:35,440 It's just a way to-- 126 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:36,840 it was just a way to escape, really. 127 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:37,720 It was quite exciting. 128 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:41,440 [inaudible] 129 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:43,640 And you could sort of like, smuggle drugs, 130 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:46,000 or like, be a police officer. 131 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:47,840 If we felt like it, just become a crook 132 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:51,360 or cop and just abuse the law. 133 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,280 Set you on a flaming torch, whoa! 134 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:58,160 This sort of excitingcriminal world, and then like, 135 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:01,920 log off and have fishfingers and chips for tea. 136 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,800 NARRATOR: The owner of their favorite server 137 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,440 was someone none of the boys had ever met, 138 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:19,160 17-year-old computer whiz, Lewis Daynes. 139 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,520 Made it quite clear that he owned the server 140 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,560 and ran things, but there wasno like, formal introduction 141 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:25,720 or anything. 142 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:30,320 It was just, hi, I'm Lewis. 143 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,200 Lewis was very inviting. 144 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,440 He allowed everyone on. There wasn't a password. 145 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:42,920 Breck? 146 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:44,520 So whereabouts are you? 147 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,840 I'm at the Tara, sniping.OK, watch out. 148 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,040 [interposing voices] 149 00:08:58,160 --> 00:08:59,920 [gun shots] 150 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:01,560 They're on the left, left, look up left. 151 00:09:01,680 --> 00:09:03,280 OK, come on. I'll cover you. 152 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:04,280 I'll cover you. 153 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:05,200 LEWIS: So I'm getting shot at. 154 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:06,440 [inaudible] quicker then. 155 00:09:06,560 --> 00:09:07,400 LEWIS: Cover me. 156 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:08,880 I am, I am. 157 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:09,800 Get down. 158 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:10,760 Get down. 159 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,080 Someone behind you. 160 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,200 He was a few years older than us, 161 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:19,080 so he was like, the mature onethat everyone looked up to. 162 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,800 We were only 13, 14. 163 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:22,760 [scream] 164 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:24,240 [laughter] 165 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:27,160 Too easy, too easy. 166 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:28,880 He seemed to have quite a lot more 167 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:32,760 experience in life and computersand stuff than any of us. 168 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:37,480 We were sort of really in aweof his like, technical ability. 169 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,120 He could just doanything on the computer. 170 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,880 Me and Breck, we really liked coding, 171 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:44,760 and he would encourage usto sort of code and stuff 172 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:46,040 like that. - Oh, shit. 173 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:47,080 Cover me, cover me, cover me, cover me. 174 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:48,200 Too many people. 175 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:49,040 LEWIS: Can you get down [inaudible] 176 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:50,840 No, no, no, I can't. 177 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:53,080 One, two-- yes! 178 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,280 Right through the eyes. 179 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:03,680 You could always hear before you could see, 180 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,880 and even though he had his big deep voice, 181 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:13,000 he'd be giggling away, teenage fun and games. 182 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,120 Breck would spend all of his money, 183 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:16,560 his birthday money, his Christmas 184 00:10:16,680 --> 00:10:20,680 money, on his computer stuff. 185 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:24,440 And he had three big screens. 186 00:10:24,560 --> 00:10:26,840 There was always something going on. 187 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,760 The center usually was the gaming screen, 188 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:31,480 and the right was more interactive 189 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:33,880 and things would pop up. 190 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:39,400 On the left was sort of his message screen. 191 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:43,520 Right there where I saw the avatar 192 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:45,160 of Daynes who wasn't Daynes. 193 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:51,240 GAMER: How was your day? 194 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:52,560 LIAM: It was good. 195 00:10:52,680 --> 00:10:53,680 We got to see "The Mad Max" in the cinema, 196 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,240 and we were the only two in there. 197 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,680 It was empty. 198 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:01,320 Oh my god. 199 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:03,120 I think some of his friendswere probably there just 200 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,600 to play the games, but Breck was very in tune 201 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:07,320 with the technology that was going on. 202 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,520 Lewis Daynes was somebody that had skills 203 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:13,880 or wherewithal to teachBreck something new about it, 204 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:15,520 and he was learning. 205 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:16,920 BRECK'S FATHER: Hey, Breck. 206 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:17,840 Hey, Breck. 207 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:21,000 [inaudible] 208 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:22,880 As a child, he was always attracted 209 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:26,080 to machines and electronics. 210 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:26,960 Two, one-- 211 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,480 BARRY BEDNAR: One of our bigbonds, we would build models. 212 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:34,400 We would build rockets. 213 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:41,160 And when he was like three years old, 214 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:42,840 they called him a boy genius because he 215 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:46,800 was always fixing things. 216 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,520 And as he got older, he kind of transferred 217 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:51,160 those talents to computing. 218 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:53,560 He was able to fix and modifyand make things happen. 219 00:11:53,680 --> 00:11:55,120 And that was one of his big passions in life 220 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:56,000 was doing that. 221 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:03,280 When Breck first gothis computer, he built it. 222 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:08,000 He bought all the PCUs andgraphics cards and motherboards 223 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:11,200 and stuff like that so that hecould get the exact computer 224 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:12,120 that he wanted. 225 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,200 Breck really looked up to Lewis as a mentor, 226 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:28,680 because of Lewis being moreknowledgeable about computers. 227 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:33,400 He just wanted to soak in everysort of ounce of information 228 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:37,400 that would help him in his career. 229 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:39,600 NARRATOR: What Lorin didn't know was her son 230 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:41,360 was gaming with a teenager who spent 231 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,800 his days prowling the internet,looking for young gamers 232 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:45,960 to befriend. 233 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,440 LEWIS: Yeah, is anybody here? 234 00:12:48,560 --> 00:12:50,680 NARRATOR: In Breck, Lewis Daynes quickly 235 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:52,400 detected someone he could impress 236 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:54,000 with his computer skills. 237 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,200 Yeah, this server is thequickest one I've ever been on. 238 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:57,320 It's so fast. 239 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:59,440 How do, um, how do you do it all? 240 00:12:59,560 --> 00:13:00,640 I mean, I've run at optimum level. 241 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:05,960 And my network, it's impenetrable. 242 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,280 Boom! 243 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:10,520 So where are you now? 244 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:12,880 I'm in New York, Breck. 245 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,200 Wait, are you in New York now? 246 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:16,640 LEWIS: Yeah. 247 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:18,600 I mean, [inaudible] 248 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:19,480 What, on this? 249 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:20,720 No, Breck. 250 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:22,560 I do have a life. 251 00:13:22,680 --> 00:13:25,800 Been testing security for the US government. 252 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:27,280 You're a hacker. 253 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:28,680 I can't say that. 254 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:29,440 That's all you're gettingfrom me, I'm afraid. 255 00:13:29,560 --> 00:13:30,640 BRECK: Oh, go on. 256 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:31,640 No, no, no, [inaudible] might be picking 257 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,200 up these communications online. 258 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,520 By day I run the computertechnology company. 259 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:38,520 No way. 260 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,080 I'm also a computer engineer. 261 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:42,480 Are you serious? 262 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:44,880 Yeah, totally serious. 263 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:48,800 That's like my dream job. 264 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:52,400 NARRATOR: While Lewis claimed tobe running a computer company, 265 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:56,560 he was really unemployed,living alone in a flat in Essex, 266 00:13:56,680 --> 00:13:58,000 spinning a web of lies. 267 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,920 At the time he was partof a million dollar company. 268 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,440 Made over two quid in Bitcoins. 269 00:14:06,560 --> 00:14:08,680 He told me he'd made about two million pounds 270 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:11,040 off of this virtual currency. 271 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:12,680 That's what he said, and I believed him. 272 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:13,800 BRECK: 2 million? - Mhm. 273 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:14,920 BRECK: Really? 274 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,480 Yeah, and I gave most of it away. 275 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,520 It was was quite, you know, like, wow. 276 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:25,280 As a computer engineer donework for the government there. 277 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,680 He was very private abouthis job and what he did. 278 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:33,040 He sort of kept thischaracter of sort of mystery. 279 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,360 Can't say it but it's top secret government stuff. 280 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:36,640 You know, need to know basis. 281 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:38,000 BRECK: Go on. 282 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:40,520 No, Breck, that's all you're getting from me. 283 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:44,320 He had his own apartment,a [inaudible] rich, 284 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:48,120 independent, job in computing,traveling around the world. 285 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:54,120 Everything that Lewis was saying was sort 286 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:57,480 of Breck's ideal lifestyle. 287 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:59,600 If you got any technicalissues, just give me a shout. 288 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:00,680 I'll give you a hand. BRECK: Yeah, definitely. 289 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:02,040 Nice on. 290 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:03,040 When I would go into the room, Breck would 291 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:04,440 sometimes say, my mom's here. 292 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:05,560 Mum's here, anyway, now. 293 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:07,960 The other boys would just go quiet, 294 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:11,280 but Lewis was very confidentand would say, oh, hey, mom. 295 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:12,600 How you doing? 296 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:14,040 And I'd ask him, what have you been doing? 297 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:15,600 You know, what have you been-- 298 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:16,800 what do you like about New York? 299 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:17,920 New York's great. 300 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:18,640 I mean, I haven't been doing much. 301 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:20,000 Just working. 302 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:21,200 I'd say, why aren't you out with a girlfriend? 303 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:22,360 Or why aren't you out with a friend? 304 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:25,240 Oh, I'm just staying in tonight. 305 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:27,960 A lot of times his answers would be vague. 306 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:31,640 I thought, why is a 17 going on 18-year-old 307 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:33,840 hanging out with 14-year-old boys 308 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:36,120 Friday and Saturday nights online? 309 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:39,000 And I thought, you know, what issort of wrong with this person, 310 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,080 that he's not actually interacting 311 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:42,280 with people his own age? 312 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:48,960 It seemed unusual, and itdid put sort of little niggle 313 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,160 of worry in my mind. 314 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,320 NARRATOR: Breck had only beenpart of Lewis's gaming group 315 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:01,680 for a few months, but some of the older boys 316 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:03,240 were becoming suspicious. 317 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:10,680 I'd talked to Lewis then forabout a year and a half, which 318 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:12,600 is quite a long time to go without actually 319 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,960 meeting this person. 320 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:19,400 Everyone else was prettyopen out their appearance. 321 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:21,920 We had pretty much everyone on Facebook. 322 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:25,000 We'd all connect through social media. 323 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,320 Lewis didn't have any social networking, 324 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:29,280 would share his face. 325 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:32,600 So we had no idea what he looked like. 326 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:37,080 I had Breck around for asleep over, Skyped Lewis. 327 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,400 Lewis's screen was almost pitch black. 328 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:44,840 It was just-- you didn'treally see much of Lewis. 329 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:46,480 There were no lights on in the rest of the room. 330 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,320 It was pretty much silhouetted. 331 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:51,320 I thought it was a little bit weird. 332 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:55,520 I didn't really expecthim to sort of skulk away 333 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:57,920 in the shadows, because, you know, 334 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,600 he sounded like he'd livethis glamorous lifestyle, 335 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:06,320 and you think he'd be a bit more confident. 336 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:10,640 NARRATOR: Lewis had every reason to hide. 337 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:12,440 He'd already built up a large network 338 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,040 of young gamers in anattempt to groom one of them. 339 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,800 Breck, with his passionfor computer programming, 340 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,360 was becoming a promising target. 341 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:26,720 BRECK: Shoot him in the face! - I'm trying, Breck. 342 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:28,000 I'm trying, I'm trying, . 343 00:17:32,360 --> 00:17:35,040 Burn this place to shit. 344 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:36,680 BRECK: I've been meaning to ask you-- 345 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:38,000 LEWIS: Mhm? 346 00:17:38,120 --> 00:17:40,160 I want to try out a mod, and I was 347 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:41,960 wondering if you could, like, chalk up a server 348 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:43,240 so we could try it out. 349 00:17:46,360 --> 00:17:47,440 Oh, yeah. 350 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:48,920 I've just got this server in Germany. 351 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:50,720 - Oh, really? - Hm. 352 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,040 I mean, I'm kind of usingit for work, testing things. 353 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:54,680 How much space do you need? 354 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:56,800 Uh, like 60 gig, but obviously, 355 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:57,960 it has to be really fast. 356 00:17:58,080 --> 00:17:58,880 LEWIS: Of course it's fast. 357 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:00,200 It's mine, Breck. 358 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:01,800 What's the mod? 359 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:04,000 BRECK: It's just some graphicalmod I've been working on. 360 00:18:04,120 --> 00:18:06,440 LEWIS: Oh yeah, forgot youwere a bit of a smart ass. 361 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:09,200 Well, hardly managing my ownmultimillion pound company yet, 362 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:10,640 but-- 363 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:11,480 LEWIS: You want to startthinking about it, Breck. 364 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:12,440 Yeah, right. 365 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:13,600 I'm 14. 366 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:14,800 So? 367 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,120 I was hacking my schools internet at 14. 368 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:20,240 Lewis sort of gave him this confidence. 369 00:18:20,360 --> 00:18:21,880 You're a bright guy. 370 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:23,560 You're really intelligent. 371 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:25,800 You're good at computing-- 372 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:28,240 just played into everythingBreck wanted to hear. 373 00:18:28,360 --> 00:18:31,480 You've got a very brightfuture ahead of you. 374 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:33,040 You have so much potential. 375 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,400 Your knowledge of computersystems is extensive. 376 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:36,880 Use that, Breck, to your advantage. 377 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:38,600 Very intelligent young man. 378 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:40,040 Listen, Breck. 379 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:41,400 I need to dash and I'vegot [inaudible] to get to. 380 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:42,640 Thanks. 381 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:43,840 LEWIS: I'll speak to you later, yeah? 382 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:45,280 BRECK: Yeah, cool. 383 00:18:59,360 --> 00:19:01,640 NARRATOR: Since Breck'smurder, his mother, Lorin, 384 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:04,720 has spoken publicly to raise awareness of the dangers 385 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:06,000 of online grooming. 386 00:19:06,120 --> 00:19:07,160 Tweet here from John. 387 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:09,360 The buck stops with parents. 388 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:12,120 What would you say to that point by John? 389 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:13,800 I thought Breck was safe in his bedroom 390 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:16,880 where I could hear what he wassaying, see what he was doing, 391 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:20,480 but I didn't realize, you know, until too late 392 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:22,800 how dangerous it was. 393 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,720 Lewis wanted Breck 24/7 on that computer. 394 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:27,800 Well, if I asked him, you know, why does 395 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,040 Lewis not have other friends? 396 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,760 Why is he always available for gaming? 397 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,640 And he'd say, oh, it's becauseit's what he likes to do. 398 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,080 Or his friends have moved away, or-- 399 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:39,240 I didn't feel like Breck would ever 400 00:19:39,360 --> 00:19:41,200 say, yeah, that is weird, mom. 401 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:42,360 Breck never said that. 402 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:43,840 LORIN [ON TV]: Breck would have never 403 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:45,320 known he was being groomed,because it's so subtle 404 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,280 and it's not always sexual. 405 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:49,880 It can sometimes just be a lot of compliments, 406 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,280 a lot of attention. 407 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,880 Oh, I just thought of it as he was like, 408 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,240 having fun with his friends. 409 00:19:58,360 --> 00:20:01,080 It didn't seem that dangerous. 410 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:04,440 It would only seem dangerousif, like, he didn't know them 411 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:06,080 and they weren't his friends. 412 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:07,640 LORIN [ON TV]: You know, youstart to trust people online, 413 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,840 but then you have to think that maybe they 414 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:12,120 have some underlying motive. 415 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:17,480 NARRATOR: After six months, Lewis 416 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:19,640 was winning Breck's trust. 417 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,800 He now encouraged Breck to speakto him on a private channel 418 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:27,720 so his friends couldn't hearhow he was being manipulated. 419 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,760 LEWIS: I think you're making astupid mistake, sticking around 420 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:32,120 with school and university. 421 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:35,800 Don't limit yourself with social conventions. 422 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,080 There's a bigger picture for you here, Breck. 423 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:39,480 I don't know. 424 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:41,720 I always just thoughtI'd go to uni, I suppose. 425 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:43,880 LEWIS: Do you actuallybuy into that crap, Breck. 426 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:45,920 BRECK: What, education? 427 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,080 Yeah, Pythagoras, geometry-- 428 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:48,960 what's that about? 429 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,880 What's the point in GCSEs? 430 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:53,760 You know, what, so youend up with a certificate 431 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:55,040 at the end of the three years? 432 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:58,000 Pathetic And what about life experience? 433 00:20:58,120 --> 00:20:59,120 Practically-- doing the work. 434 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:00,400 That's what you need. 435 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:02,040 I mean, look at me. 436 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,440 I left school at 16, and nowI'm running my own company. 437 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,800 Yeah, yeah, like, now you mention 438 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:11,840 it, like Steve Jobs justleft Reed College, didn't he, 439 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:13,560 to set up Apple? 440 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:15,520 And then Mark Zuckerberg dropped out of Harvard 441 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:16,960 and I look at Facebook. 442 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:18,600 Exactly. 443 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:20,200 BRECK: Yeah. 444 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,480 So you know, Breck, you couldfollow in their footsteps. 445 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,840 Yeah, you understand aboutcomputing and coding, 446 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:25,840 how it works. 447 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:27,560 You've got technical aptitude. 448 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:31,200 You know, it's like yourbrain is wired the right way. 449 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:32,160 BRECK: Do you think so? 450 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:33,280 Yeah. 451 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:34,720 Use that, Breck, to your advantage, 452 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,480 and you'll up with 2million bitcoins, like me. 453 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:40,400 2 million-- think of what you can do with that? 454 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,320 Yeah, and don't get me started on church. 455 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,200 Who needs that? 456 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:47,920 There were a lot of things that he didn't 457 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,040 like about our lifestyle. 458 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,880 He didn't like us readingmainstream news channels, 459 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:57,680 because he felt like they werelying or distorting the truth. 460 00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,240 He was definitely trying to change 461 00:21:59,360 --> 00:22:02,840 perceptions on multiple levels. 462 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,960 He painted himself as quitea sort of liberal, I guess, 463 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:08,600 freedom fighter. 464 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:14,040 [inaudible] them poor sodsin Syria, being bombed to shit. 465 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:15,360 I'm thinking of going out there, Breck, 466 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,480 and fighting with the Syrian rebels. 467 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:21,880 Wouldn't be the first time, though. 468 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:23,440 BRECK: What do you mean? 469 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,160 Well, I went out to Egypt a few years back, 470 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,560 fought with the Egyptian rebels. 471 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,960 He said he was going to go to Syria 472 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:31,480 as an aid worker, which I thought, 473 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,240 oh, that's quite noble. 474 00:22:33,360 --> 00:22:35,200 You sure you want to do that,though, because it's supposed 475 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:36,480 to be really dangerous. 476 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,160 But then the morning he went out, 477 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:42,680 it's like, oh, goodbye, good luck, et cetera. 478 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:44,720 Then he came back on acouple of hours later saying, 479 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,040 oh no, the flight's been canceled. 480 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,080 There was a bomb in Baghdad. 481 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,200 It's like, oh, OK. 482 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:55,280 NARRATOR: Lewis's lies we'regetting more far fetched. 483 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:56,920 He was beginning to lose credibility 484 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:58,840 with the older boys. 485 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:03,080 Everything he was sayingwasn't really adding up. 486 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:08,440 He was a bit sort of fantasticalfor reality, quite honestly. 487 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:12,160 I didn't really believe that he was in America. 488 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,880 By that point, I waspretty sure he wasn't who 489 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,640 he was saying he was. 490 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,400 You know nothing. 491 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,600 So often I'd be a bit rude or a bit sarcastic, 492 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,080 and he didn't like that very much. 493 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:28,560 Hey, dude. You poked? 494 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:29,960 LEWIS: Yeah, they were annoying me. 495 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:31,280 Yeah, what happened to Liam? 496 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:32,360 LEWIS: Booted him. 497 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:33,800 That guy annoys me every day. 498 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:34,720 How come? 499 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:36,280 LEWIS: Spouting bollocks. 500 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:37,640 Was just chatting about school. 501 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:39,160 LEWIS: Yeah, that is the bollocks. 502 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,120 It's my server. I can do what I want. 503 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,480 Lewis, by the end of the day,was the owner of the server. 504 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,840 So if someone startedannoying him quite a lot, 505 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:50,920 then he would just simply restrict 506 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:54,280 their access by banning them. 507 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,280 This isn't going to carry on. 508 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,080 I won't tell you again. 509 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:01,640 Shut the fuck up. 510 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:03,160 They began to sort of feel like he 511 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:08,720 was segregating everyoneelse from Breck by arguing, 512 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:10,440 pushing them away. 513 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,160 FRIEND: I mean, we had quite afew conversations with Breck. 514 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,040 And the conversation [inaudible] sort of just 515 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,480 involved, we're your real life friends. 516 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:21,040 Why are you sort of focusing more on someone 517 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,600 that you haven't actually met? 518 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,880 FRIEND: I disliked him, and I didn't 519 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,160 like the way he spoke to us. 520 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:33,120 And I told him Breck thatgetting in with Lewis 521 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:38,000 was a bad idea, because ofthe way that he treated him 522 00:24:38,120 --> 00:24:42,240 and me and everyone. 523 00:24:42,360 --> 00:24:45,880 But I didn't enforce it. 524 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,080 NARRATOR: Lewis now told another lie 525 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,920 to ensure the Breck would nolonger listen to his friends. 526 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:52,840 LEWIS: Listen, Breck. 527 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:54,880 I've got some shit news. 528 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:55,880 What? 529 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:57,240 I had them [inaudible]. 530 00:24:57,360 --> 00:24:59,760 I tapped into another channel. 531 00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:02,320 I heard them talking about you, Breck. 532 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,040 What are you talking about? 533 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:10,400 Your friends, they are-- 534 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:14,000 well, they said they don't really like you. 535 00:25:14,120 --> 00:25:15,840 Well, in fact, they said they hate you. 536 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:19,400 Who said what? 537 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:30,440 Look OK, um, it was Liam. 538 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,400 BRECK: Liam? 539 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,400 Yeah. 540 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,360 Well, and Matt. 541 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:39,280 Yeah, Liam and Matt. 542 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:45,520 Forget about them, Breck. 543 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:49,400 You don't need them anymore. 544 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,640 They're not going to help your future. 545 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:55,200 They're just going tostop you from doing well. 546 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,480 We've got that bond, Breck,and that's all that matters-- 547 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,880 our friendship. 548 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:02,400 You don't need them anymore, Breck. 549 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,160 We tried to say it to,Breck, like, OK, this guy is 550 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,120 acting really weird. 551 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:15,000 This is scary. 552 00:26:15,120 --> 00:26:17,680 You guys need to get out. 553 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,880 Lewis joined the serverwhile we were having a chat, 554 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,800 began counteractingeverything we were saying, 555 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,520 saying that we werebitchy about Breck to him, 556 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,960 and that we did hate him. 557 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,200 I ended up just saying, oh, you know what, screw it. 558 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:37,800 I don't have the effort or time to argue. 559 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,000 All he did was make our life really shit. 560 00:26:41,120 --> 00:26:42,960 Around November time a bunch of us 561 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,280 older guys just decided that was enough. 562 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:46,880 So we decided to leave. 563 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,800 And that was the last time I spoke to Breck. 564 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:57,800 NARRATOR: Breck stayed in Lewis's gaming group. 565 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:04,480 Under Lewis's influence, he'dgiven up many of his hobbies, 566 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,720 including air cadets. 567 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,640 I did try and talk to Breck about why 568 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,440 he started not coming up, and he just shoved 569 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,960 me off with generic answers. 570 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:18,080 Oh, yeah, I can't. 571 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:19,560 I'm busy. 572 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,480 It was literally likesomeone had flipped a switch 573 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:23,520 and he just stops. 574 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:32,080 The smiling, happy Breckjust wasn't there anymore. 575 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,040 He kept everything to himselfand became much more isolated. 576 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,920 Looking back, that wasprobably a sign that something 577 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:41,840 wasn't quite right. 578 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:53,800 NARRATOR: Lewis had been grooming Breck 579 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,120 for eight months, and nowthere was only one person 580 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,760 standing in his way. 581 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:02,600 Breck would have his headphones on, 582 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,280 and I'd be standing there with Breck, 583 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,440 saying, Breck, you need to comeand do this couple of things. 584 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,480 And he'd have Daynesliterally in his ear saying, 585 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:11,400 you don't have to do that. 586 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:12,800 Don't listen to her. 587 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,040 You don't have to do that. 588 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,720 Don't listen to her. 589 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,400 I had to do something about it. 590 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:26,000 So we had this online chat,and it went back and forth. 591 00:28:26,120 --> 00:28:31,320 I said, why are you trying totell me how to raise my son? 592 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,680 And he would say, well, hedoesn't want to go to church. 593 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:34,880 Why do you make him? 594 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:35,960 He doesn't believe in God. 595 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:37,880 It's a waste of time. 596 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,040 And I would say, well,that's what we do as a family. 597 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,280 And it's one hour a week. 598 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,880 I'm not asking, you know,for a full time commitment. 599 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:48,480 And he'd say-- 600 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:49,880 Why are you forcing Breckto do chores when it's really 601 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:51,320 the triplets who make the mess? 602 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,680 Well, he shouldn't haveto do any of these chores. 603 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:55,960 And then he always had athing where he would say, 604 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:57,440 Breck's a good boy. 605 00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:58,360 He doesn't smoke. 606 00:28:58,480 --> 00:28:59,640 He doesn't do drugs. 607 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:00,800 You know, why can't you just let him be? 608 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:02,720 Breck gets good grades. 609 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,040 Well can't you let him beon the Wi-Fi when he wants? 610 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,240 I just, listen, he's my son. 611 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:08,720 I care about him. 612 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,040 All of my rules, everythingthat we do as a family 613 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:12,520 is because I love him. 614 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,840 And I wrote, and that's that. 615 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:16,960 End of story. 616 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:18,240 And that was it. 617 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,040 That was the absolute last time that we 618 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:22,600 had any conversations together. 619 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:27,960 Dude, are you there? 620 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:28,880 Hello? 621 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,400 LEWIS: Yeah. 622 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,680 Oh my god, so my mom hasjust gone absolutely mad. 623 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:33,800 She's really panicking. 624 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:35,880 And like, she's called my dad in-- 625 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,160 Yeah, and she gets off onmaking out like I'm some sort 626 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,080 of creepy criminal, Breck. 627 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,200 She's threatening to take awaylike all my computer equipment, 628 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:44,640 and I actually think she's going to do 629 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:46,800 it this time because she'sgoing absolutely mad. 630 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:47,800 She's manipulative you. 631 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:49,480 She's controlling you, Breck. 632 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:50,840 It's abuse. 633 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,120 She might your mum, but she's a total failure. 634 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:55,760 It was painfully obvious that Lewis 635 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:59,360 Daynes was encouraging Breckto act out against his mother. 636 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:03,280 I was horrified, and you know,I spoke to Breck about it. 637 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:07,680 He initially said, he's a goodguy and has a great heart. 638 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,360 We challenged that. You're 14. 639 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:10,320 You really don't know. 640 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,520 I'm not some stranger, OK? 641 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,480 She's going to isolate youfrom you and your friends, 642 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:15,760 including me. 643 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:17,400 Is that what you want? 644 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,240 I told Breck, we don't knowthis guy, if he's good or bad. 645 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:21,120 He may be great. 646 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:22,800 He may be not. 647 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,200 We just don't know, and it's ourjob to protect you as parents. 648 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:27,520 They just want to meet you, and I 649 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,200 know it's like a really massive ask, 650 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,400 but is there any way that youcould just come and meet them 651 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,120 so that they'll stopgoing on at me like this? 652 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:34,400 You know I can't do that, OK? 653 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:35,520 I've got too much work on at the moment, 654 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,760 too many responsibilities. 655 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:39,120 He would never do it. 656 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:40,640 So that was when we really got concerned. 657 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,080 I just had this image that he was 658 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,640 a 40-year-old fat pedophile sitting 659 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:49,000 behind the computer screen. 660 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:50,880 So I called the police. 661 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,200 I wanted to know if Dayneswas known to the police. 662 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,640 I passed over Daynes full name. 663 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:01,760 Breck had told me he was 18. 664 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,480 Breck had told me he was from Essex, originally. 665 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,440 And I gave as much information as I could. 666 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:12,520 I was just told that the system would be checked. 667 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,240 In our wildest dreams, we thought maybe 668 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,080 because of these war games and the fact 669 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,520 he was talking about Syria,maybe he was radicalizing 670 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,600 these kids for terrorism. 671 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:21,480 We didn't know. 672 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:25,640 NARRATOR: Desperate to persuade Breck 673 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,800 to give up his friendship with Lewis, 674 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,400 Lorin contacted other parents. 675 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,200 BRECK: She just doesn't understand any of this. 676 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:33,880 She's panicking. 677 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,160 She's going to call thismeeting with another point 678 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,880 and his parents to discuss the situation. 679 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:40,200 It's like totally ridiculous. 680 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:41,560 I don't know what I'm going to with that. 681 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:42,680 LEWIS: [inaudible]Breck, your mom shouldn't 682 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:44,120 be controlling what you do. 683 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:48,960 Breck, you know what you need to do? 684 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:50,640 You need to record that [inaudible] meeting. 685 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:52,120 Get it on tape. 686 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:53,400 BRECK: What do you mean record it? 687 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:54,720 Record it.You're an intelligent lad. 688 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:55,600 You'll figure it out. 689 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,640 BRECK: Yeah, I guess it would be kind of funny. 690 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,280 At least then you can seeexactly what she's been 691 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,600 saying to me for this long. 692 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:13,920 Exactly, Breck. 693 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:15,400 We'll have a good laugh. 694 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,600 I mean, maybe we could evensend it into the police. 695 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:19,680 That would sort her out. 696 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:23,920 Do you want to do that for me, Breck? 697 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,040 BRECK: Yeah. 698 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:26,960 Yeah, I will. 699 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:27,840 Good lad. 700 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,440 NARRATOR: Breck's secret recording of the meeting 701 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:36,920 was later found by police. 702 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:39,120 NARRATOR: Sensing his parentsweren't going to back down, 703 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:40,360 Breck gave in. 704 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,720 NARRATOR: To make sureBreck did what he promised, 705 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:21,680 Lorin took away all his computer equipment. 706 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:26,640 Breck was very upset and quite annoyed at mum 707 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,640 that she was being so mean. 708 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:36,080 He thought she was just punishing him. 709 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,560 He didn't realize that shewas trying to save him. 710 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:45,840 I listened out for his name. 711 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,960 We listen for Lewis, we listened for a new name, 712 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,400 maybe a new alias. 713 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,560 I listened for his voice,and the sad thing is is it 714 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,600 all went underground afterI forbade him from speaking. 715 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,400 Christmas 2013 was a great Christmas. 716 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,800 I remember that the kidscame to my house as well, 717 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:07,280 and we had all sorts of presents, 718 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:11,520 and Breck got a new hoodie that he wanted. 719 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,200 It was like we had Breck back because he wasn't 720 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,640 on the computer all the time, and it was 721 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,360 kind of good to see him there. 722 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:19,280 I was very happy. 723 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:26,200 NARRATOR: But after nine months of 724 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,600 intense psychological pressure, Lewis wasn't 725 00:35:28,720 --> 00:35:31,240 going to give him up easily. 726 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:35,080 He secretly couriered him a phone. 727 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,800 And believing their son wasover his friendship with Lewis, 728 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,160 Breck's parents gave him his computers back. 729 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:46,000 This is like the last picture we have of him. 730 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:47,240 It was a week before he died. 731 00:35:51,720 --> 00:35:53,400 That was right before he went to Spain. 732 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:13,360 His Spanish trip, Ithink he really enjoyed it. 733 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:18,400 He met a girl that he liked,and to see Breck post a picture 734 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,520 of him and a girl together, I was a bit, 735 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,520 I thought, oh, that's nice. 736 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,320 So that's good for him, you know, to have 737 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:31,400 that for the first time. 738 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:37,800 I remember picking up Breck at the airport. 739 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:38,680 He looked tall. 740 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,520 He looked confident. 741 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:41,520 And he had a great time. 742 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,040 After we got back, he asked if he 743 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,160 could go to a friend's house. 744 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,920 I was so happy that he wantedto go and physically hang 745 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:54,200 out with one of his friends instead 746 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,920 of being on the computer that I said, OK. 747 00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:58,560 And he gave me the name of him. 748 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:00,200 He said it was Tom, and he was dead. 749 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:01,520 And I said, do you want me to take you? 750 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,880 He says, no, no, I'll take care of it. 751 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,280 He texted me after a couple hours 752 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,920 and he said that he wouldlike to spend the night. 753 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:11,840 They had pizza. 754 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:13,280 I'd be really proud of him. 755 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:14,840 He was going to be workingon some computer stuff, 756 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:16,520 and they were trying to makea faster operating system 757 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,160 for something which, sounded-- 758 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:19,040 OK, great. 759 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,320 That's fine. 760 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,040 And I didn't think anything of it. 761 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:24,720 I was happy that he was with one of his friends. 762 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:33,920 NARRATOR: The next morning, when Tom 763 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,600 logged onto TeamSpeak, it became clear 764 00:37:36,720 --> 00:37:39,760 that something was very wrong. 765 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:46,160 It was the first day of halfterm and I was home alone, 766 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,560 and I got up fairly early because I couldn't 767 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:49,440 sleep the night before. 768 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,480 Didn't sleep so well. 769 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:57,320 I went on the computer fora bit, then Lewis came on. 770 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:05,240 He said that, you know,there had been a accident, 771 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:10,360 that Breck had come round to Lewis's house, 772 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:15,040 sort of depressed and suicidal, tried 773 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:16,280 to hurt himself with a knife-- 774 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:23,560 911 DISPATCHER [ON THE PHONE]:Essex Police Emergency. 775 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:26,960 --and that Breck was dead. 776 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,240 911 DISPATCHER [ON THE PHONE]: What's happened? 777 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,640 My friend came to stay the night 778 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:43,480 with me yesterday, was feelingvery down, feeling suicidal. 779 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,520 I was scared. 780 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,880 At first I though maybe it's a joke. 781 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,120 Tried to calm him down. 782 00:38:51,240 --> 00:38:57,480 I hugged him and said that[inaudible] was bad for him. 783 00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:58,720 911 DISPATCHER [ON THE PHONE]: Right. 784 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:00,000 OK. 785 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,080 I have a pen knife adjacent to my bed. 786 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,160 I have a chest of drawers. 787 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,120 I've got aftershave andthe TV and stuff on that. 788 00:39:08,240 --> 00:39:10,360 I had a pen knife on their folded. 789 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:11,960 He picked it up, opened it-- 790 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:13,400 NARRATOR: The news spread quickly 791 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,560 amongst Breck's gaming friends. 792 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:17,120 I sort of came on to the TeamSpeak 793 00:39:17,240 --> 00:39:20,520 and was told that Breck had died. 794 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:24,360 He picked it up, openedit, and then lost control. 795 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,240 911 DISPATCHER [ON THE PHONE]:In order to harm himself? 796 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,880 No, in order to harm me, he opened it, 797 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,080 and then lost control. 798 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:31,040 911 DISPATCHER [ON THE PHONE]: Right. 799 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:32,720 OK. 800 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,280 I was just sort of shocked. 801 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:39,040 I just sort of sat there, sortof at my computer, just sort 802 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,840 of just in silence, really. 803 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:43,440 Can you not interrupt me with this part? 804 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:44,440 911 DISPATCHER [ON THE PHONE]: OK, go on. 805 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:45,720 OK. 806 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:47,000 This is being recorded, anyway, isn't it? 807 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:48,320 911 DISPATCHER [ON THE PHONE]: Yep. 808 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:52,000 I grabbed the knife and I stabbed him once 809 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,160 in the back of the neck, I believe 810 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,360 somewhere near the brain stem. 811 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,200 He turned around, tried to-- 812 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,360 That was when it waslike, holy shit, like, this 813 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,000 has actually happened. 814 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:08,960 Breck must have diedfeeling incredibly alone. 815 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:14,800 He was on his own with this guywho promises him everything, 816 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:19,960 ended up living in apretty rough area of Essex 817 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:21,400 in like a small flat. 818 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,600 I don't remember exactly what happened, 819 00:40:27,720 --> 00:40:31,680 but the fight ended with cutting his throat. 820 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:36,400 I believe I turned aroundand I slashed his throat. 821 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:37,520 Why? 822 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,720 Why would-- I don't understand why 823 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:44,520 he would do that, to buildup the trust and friendship 824 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:48,520 and then to murder him. 825 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:49,960 I was just so shocked. 826 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:51,600 I just could believe it. 827 00:40:51,720 --> 00:40:53,040 I couldn't believe it. 828 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:54,200 911 DISPATCHER [ON THEPHONE]: You're telling me 829 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:55,960 he's definitely dead. 830 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:57,640 Yes, I'm telling you he's definitely dead. 831 00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:58,760 911 DISPATCHER [ON THE PHONE]: Can 832 00:40:58,880 --> 00:40:59,880 you just bear with me a second? 833 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:01,320 Don't tell me anymore. 834 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,400 At first we just sort of thought, 835 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,920 maybe it was just an accident. 836 00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:09,040 They may have had an argument,or like Lewis had said, 837 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,920 Breck tried to commit suicideand he tried to stop him. 838 00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:13,960 Although, it did sound ridiculous. 839 00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,080 You know, how can you accidentally 840 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:17,440 stab someone in the neck? 841 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:18,760 911 DISPATCHER [ON THE PHONE]: Right, you've 842 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:20,160 left the weapon in the hallway.LEWIS: Yes. 843 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:21,880 911 DISPATCHER [ON THE PHONE]: And has spend 844 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:23,920 how long sitting in the shower? 845 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:25,160 LEWIS: I--I don't know. 846 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:26,600 Look, are the police on their way? 847 00:41:26,720 --> 00:41:27,880 I can hear something-- 848 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:28,480 911 DISPATCHER [ON THE PHONE]: They are. 849 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:29,720 They are. 850 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:30,560 LEWIS: I just going to go [inaudible] 851 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,040 thank you for your help. 852 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:33,280 911 DISPATCHER [ON THEPHONE]: Right, just listen. 853 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:34,800 NARRATOR: The calm tone of the 999 call 854 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,160 suggested to Essex Police that Lewis 855 00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,360 Daynes was no ordinary killer. 856 00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:43,880 What we have is a 14-year-oldboy being groomed to go and see 857 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,480 an 18-year-old man, and that 18-year-old man has 858 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,440 lied quite significantly to him about 859 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,800 the reason for that meeting. 860 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,400 That's what I needed tofocus my investigation on. 861 00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:05,960 Walking into the flat was very startling. 862 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:11,480 The hall way had a knife lying on the floor. 863 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:16,280 In the lounge there wasa bag of clothing cut up. 864 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:21,720 Duct tape in the bins looked asthough it had been used to bind 865 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,320 somebody, and it lookedlike it would be maybe hands 866 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,560 or feet, something like that. 867 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:30,200 In the lounge there was a tower unit, 868 00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:34,400 and there was an externalhard drive on the table. 869 00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,800 In the bathroom there wasa sink filled with water, 870 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,160 and there were a numberof devices and hard drives 871 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:44,520 and some phones of that were covered in water. 872 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:48,120 In the bedroom there was one laptop on the bed 873 00:42:48,240 --> 00:42:50,200 that was covered in blood. 874 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,960 Breck had a significant injury to his neck, 875 00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,480 and at the end of the post-mortem, 876 00:42:56,600 --> 00:43:02,160 the declaration of Breck'sdeath was an incision 877 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,040 to the right side of his neck. 878 00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:15,120 I have nightmares, and I justkeep playing it over and over 879 00:43:15,240 --> 00:43:17,360 in my mind when I go to bed. 880 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:18,240 What happened? 881 00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:19,240 What happened? 882 00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,440 You know, was he suffering long? 883 00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,880 Was he, you know, was screaming? 884 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,920 Was he crying? 885 00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:31,360 It kills me to think at whatpoint things turned for Breck 886 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,880 and he realized, whoa, I really messed up, 887 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:36,120 and I'm in trouble here. 888 00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:47,160 NARRATOR: Lewis maintainedhis story of self-defense, 889 00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:51,360 but evidence waspointing to the contrary. 890 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:55,240 We identified that Lewis Daynes had purchased 891 00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,960 duct tape and condoms. 892 00:43:58,080 --> 00:43:59,680 He'd planned this. 893 00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:01,680 It's definitely a good three weeks 894 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:03,960 beforehand that he's putting things 895 00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:07,520 into place to make Breck. 896 00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,480 NARRATOR: Despite Lewis Daynes attempt 897 00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,560 to destroy all thecomputer evidence in water, 898 00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:17,640 he left one vital clue, Breck's iPad, which police found 899 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,720 at the bottom of his backpack. 900 00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:25,440 On it, proof that Lewis hadcontinued to pursue Breck. 901 00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:28,920 I feel completely worthlessin respect of us being friends. 902 00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:30,440 I've done nothing wrong. 903 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,400 I've been a good friend toyou for almost a year now. 904 00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,040 I've provided a safe-- 905 00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:35,880 NARRATOR: Police retrieved abarrage of e-mails from Lewis 906 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:40,160 to Breck dating back to Christmas. 907 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,160 What if she takes your PC away? 908 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:43,600 What happens then? 909 00:44:43,720 --> 00:44:47,200 And you've responded with,I won't let that happen. 910 00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,400 Well, Breck, it's happened. 911 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,440 Your mother has completelyisolated you from your friends. 912 00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,800 Lewis Daynes wasconstantly contacting Breck, 913 00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:59,680 making sure that Breck's focus of attention 914 00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:01,520 was on Lewis Daynes. 915 00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:03,360 CLIFF PELL: I'm being treated like some kind 916 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,080 of criminal, a creep. 917 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,680 And he would be quitedemanding in the emails, too. 918 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:09,200 Breck, why aren't you contacting me. 919 00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:10,360 What are you doing? 920 00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,160 You seem to have forgotten about me. 921 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:14,440 Breck. 922 00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:15,320 Breck. 923 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:22,080 It was scary to thinkthat a young man of that age 924 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,720 would be controlling in that way. 925 00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,600 Daynes has clearly groomed him to not speak 926 00:45:27,720 --> 00:45:28,920 to anybody else about this. 927 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:30,720 He's just not shared it with anybody. 928 00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:35,360 We do know that Breck gota taxi in the morning, 929 00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,320 that that taxi had been pre-booked 930 00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:43,320 by Breck after conversationwith Lewis Daynes two weeks 931 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:44,720 before the date. 932 00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:46,720 [inaudible] if your father asks you where 933 00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:48,480 you're going on Sunday, say you're going 934 00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,120 to meet a friend who's 14. 935 00:45:50,240 --> 00:45:52,640 And then just say, I've spent too many half 936 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,240 terms and holidays indoors. 937 00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,520 I'm going to spend thisone outside with friends. 938 00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:05,240 Every day, I challengemyself as what could I have 939 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:06,920 done to protect Breck better? 940 00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,880 I've been told by thepolice and by everybody else 941 00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,840 that you did everything youcould, and you Lewis Daynes 942 00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:16,760 is just an evil person. 943 00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:21,840 Still, deep down, I don't believe that. 944 00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:23,520 I mean, that's my responsibility. 945 00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,440 I had him and I was responsible for him. 946 00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,800 I let him go to his death. 947 00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:31,160 It will haunt us forever. 948 00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:36,520 [inaudible] for coming. 949 00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:40,320 OK, as Breck's parents, Ithink it's only right that you 950 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,560 should know what we've actually identified 951 00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:44,280 for our investigation. 952 00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,480 Just going to explain to you-- 953 00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,160 NARRATOR: Detectives discoveredthat Lewis Daynes had been 954 00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,720 abandoned by his parents as a child 955 00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:53,880 and had grown up in and out of foster care. 956 00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:01,040 Living alone from the ageof 16, he had developed 957 00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,000 unhealthy online interests. 958 00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:12,240 Lewis was, by his very nature, obsessive. 959 00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:16,440 And he was obsessed with Syria. 960 00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:22,440 There's a link that was sent to the young people 961 00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:25,280 about a Syrian beheading,and it's one of the worst 962 00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:26,760 that I've ever seen. 963 00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:30,800 And there are links inreference to sexual pause, 964 00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,400 to sexual behavior. 965 00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:38,400 Within the last six months,between September and February, 966 00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:43,360 Lewis Daynes was aiming tomeet at least one of the people 967 00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,440 within community, and Breck just happened 968 00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:47,760 to be the first person he met. 969 00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,560 NARRATOR: Police discoveredLewis Daynes had bought service 970 00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:59,440 space in Germany, and hadaccess to an online community 971 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:03,360 of over 400 gamers. 972 00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:07,360 He practically created the sort of, 973 00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,360 I guess you'd call an empire, where he could 974 00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,920 just drag in anybody he wants. 975 00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,240 He's got service for games, like Minecraft, 976 00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:19,680 which means young kids are goingto want to come on his server. 977 00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,120 He can get any teenage guy hewants because he has servers 978 00:48:22,240 --> 00:48:24,800 for games like Team Fortress 2. 979 00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:28,040 And he had such endurancethat he talked to them for 2, 980 00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,960 3 years until he made his move. 981 00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:37,880 Doesn't look like a murderer. 982 00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:41,040 Just looking on the EssexPolice page, and someone's 983 00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:46,120 commented on the post, oh mygod, I went to school with him. 984 00:48:46,240 --> 00:48:47,720 He was always the kid that was bullied. 985 00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:49,760 Guess he just snapped. 986 00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,200 I just feel like this wholesituation could have been 987 00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:55,680 averted if we didn't knowLewis, and if we didn't meet him 988 00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,240 at all, none of this would have happened 989 00:48:58,360 --> 00:48:59,320 and Breck would have been alive. 990 00:49:05,240 --> 00:49:07,880 NARRATOR: After a 10 month investigation, 991 00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,960 police finally have the answerto why 14-year-old Breck had 992 00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,440 secretly gone to Lewis's flat. 993 00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:14,840 LEWIS: Breck, Breck, get on my chat. 994 00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:16,160 I want to speak. BRECK: What? 995 00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,120 NARRATOR: It was Lewis's greatest deception, 996 00:49:19,240 --> 00:49:21,720 and on that would cost Breck his life. 997 00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:23,360 BRECK: Yo, what's up? 998 00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:24,920 LEWIS: I'm running out of time, Breck. 999 00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:26,040 BRECK: What are you talking about? 1000 00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,800 Look, Breck, I didn'twant to let on, but I'm-- 1001 00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:34,720 I'm ill. 1002 00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:36,760 BRECK: You're-- you're ill? 1003 00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,280 Yeah. 1004 00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,160 What, like flu or something? 1005 00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:42,480 LEWIS: I don't joke, Breck. 1006 00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:43,360 I'm serious. 1007 00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:48,920 I'm unable to keep control of the company. 1008 00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:50,520 It's just too much for me. 1009 00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,000 I've tried, but it's takingtoo much toll on my health. 1010 00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,360 And I've decided I want to hand it over to you. 1011 00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:03,000 What? 1012 00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:04,440 Are you joking? 1013 00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:06,720 LEWIS: No, and this iswhy I need you to step up. 1014 00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:07,880 Because I need you to take over. 1015 00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:09,000 What? 1016 00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:10,120 Mate, what are you talking about? 1017 00:50:10,240 --> 00:50:11,080 The company, Breck. 1018 00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:12,480 I'm serious. 1019 00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,160 I wouldn't lie to you, Breck. 1020 00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,120 I need you to take control of the company. 1021 00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:26,160 Grab it with both hands. 1022 00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,360 You need to step up, Breck, for me. 1023 00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:29,840 You're not going to let me down, are you? 1024 00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:33,920 When you're back from holiday-- 1025 00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:35,160 Yeah. 1026 00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:36,480 LEWIS: --you'll come over to my place. 1027 00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:37,720 Yeah. 1028 00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:39,320 LEWIS: We'll talk through the details. 1029 00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:41,080 I'll hand over the company to you. 1030 00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:44,040 You'll do that for me, won't you? 1031 00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:49,800 Uh-- and you'll be there with me? 1032 00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:51,120 Of course. 1033 00:50:51,240 --> 00:50:52,320 I need you to bring with you your tablets, 1034 00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:53,960 your phone, your drives, everything, 1035 00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:55,560 absolutely everything. 1036 00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:58,040 And then I will take you throughthe business, every step. 1037 00:50:58,160 --> 00:50:59,800 And I will be with you every step of the way 1038 00:50:59,920 --> 00:51:01,960 until you get the hang of you need to do. 1039 00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:06,400 And from there on in, I'llexplain my health situation. 1040 00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:07,800 OK. 1041 00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:12,680 Uh, all right then. 1042 00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,840 Can't wait. 1043 00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:16,840 Can't wait to meet you, too. 1044 00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:23,800 Yes. 1045 00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:36,240 On the morning of a trial,I was due to go as a witness 1046 00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:39,160 into court. 1047 00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:42,600 And then just before we're aboutto leave, we got a phone call 1048 00:51:42,720 --> 00:51:46,400 saying he's pleaded guilty,which was hard to hear, 1049 00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:50,880 because still some part ofme wanted it to be, you know, 1050 00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,000 this was an accident.It's just a tragic accident. 1051 00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:56,360 It's not, you know, a murder. 1052 00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:58,240 NARRATOR: Lewis Daynes was convicted of murder 1053 00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,920 with sexual and sadistic intent, and was 1054 00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:05,280 sentenced to life imprisonment. 1055 00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,880 The biggest trend at themoment, the biggest thing 1056 00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:11,280 that we're hearing about is grooming online, 1057 00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,800 and this is so hard to try and police, 1058 00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:19,440 because you don't physicallyknow who that person is. 1059 00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:21,120 You just got to notice the signals. 1060 00:52:21,240 --> 00:52:24,600 There were clear signals thatLewis was letting out that were 1061 00:52:24,720 --> 00:52:26,680 dangerous, and you just need to make sure 1062 00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:28,440 that you're picking up on them. 1063 00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:31,920 Because that's what's going to keep you safe. 1064 00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:33,480 LORIN: I think there's so much more we all 1065 00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:36,080 need to learn about grooming. 1066 00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:39,840 I think we just need to keep reminding teens 1067 00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:44,040 and even younger childrennot to trust people 1068 00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:45,640 that we don't online. 1069 00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:47,600 I'd like to welcome Lorin[inaudible] for talking to us 1070 00:52:47,720 --> 00:52:49,400 about internet safety, a topic which 1071 00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:53,120 we've been covering and ishighly debated in schools. 1072 00:52:53,240 --> 00:52:55,240 You know, Breck felt like the friend 1073 00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:58,200 that he met online was a true friend, 1074 00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:00,440 and because he met them through other people 1075 00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:04,120 that he knew, friends of friends, it felt safe. 1076 00:53:04,240 --> 00:53:07,480 And unfortunately, people aren't always 1077 00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:10,240 who they say they are online. 1078 00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:13,320 When I made that phone call to the police, 1079 00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:17,640 I wanted to know if Dayneswas known to the police. 1080 00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:20,400 Well, Daynes was known to the police 1081 00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:24,360 for prior sexual activity, allegations 1082 00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:28,440 against a 15-year-old boy. 1083 00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:32,280 In the system-- this was in the system. 1084 00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:36,600 In my, you know, pretenddreams, the police would come 1085 00:53:36,720 --> 00:53:39,160 to the door, speak to Breck, and say, 1086 00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:40,480 actually, your mom was right. 1087 00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:47,000 And Breck would have finally believed me. 1088 00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:48,800 And in my mind, that is what should 1089 00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:53,280 have happened in my life,and my son would be here. 1090 00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:55,960 I would still be a productive human being, 1091 00:53:56,080 --> 00:54:01,560 instead of what I am now,which is a shell of a person. 1092 00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:10,760 I'm only alive for the triplets,and I'm not alive for me. 1093 00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:21,040 I found this one in an old folder, 1094 00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:24,120 and it's the acceptance letter for when Breck 1095 00:54:24,240 --> 00:54:26,040 went to [inaudible] school. 1096 00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,760 NARRATOR: Breck's 13-year-old siblings 1097 00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,080 have to learn to live withthe hole left in their lives. 1098 00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:35,240 Do you want to do some more trimming? 1099 00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:36,120 Yeah. 1100 00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:41,040 Every day is differentbecause Breck's not here. 1101 00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:46,600 He's not in his bedroom. 1102 00:54:46,720 --> 00:54:49,440 He's not on his computer. 1103 00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:53,520 Sometimes I still lay one too many places 1104 00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:58,840 at the dinner table, andthat really makes me sad. 1105 00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:05,200 It's hard at school. 1106 00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:06,760 I kind of don't like it that everyone 1107 00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:09,880 knows about it, that I'm the sister 1108 00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:11,040 of the boy who was murdered. 1109 00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:16,240 It's just such an ugly word-- 1110 00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:17,160 murdered. 1111 00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:26,720 Sometimes I just want to cry and sit 1112 00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:29,720 by Breck's tree at school and cry 1113 00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:30,960 instead of having to go to lessons. 1114 00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:42,000 NARRATOR: Today would'vebeen Breck's 16th birthday. 1115 00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:45,840 In his memory, Lorin hasdecided to continue visiting 1116 00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:49,040 schools to educate teenagers. 1117 00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:51,880 I want something good tocome out of Breck's murder. 1118 00:55:54,720 --> 00:55:56,680 It's a known fact that there are people 1119 00:55:56,800 --> 00:56:00,480 out there, pedophiles groomingteenagers more than we know. 1120 00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:05,560 But groomers are chameleons, and they'll 1121 00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:08,800 be who ever they think they need to be 1122 00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:10,920 to convince that child to do something 1123 00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:13,960 they wouldn't normally do. 1124 00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:16,800 Happy birthday, Breck, you're 16 today. 1125 00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:20,080 This comes with love to wish youa wonderful day, because you're 1126 00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:21,160 such a special son. 1127 00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:30,640 We love you, [inaudible]. 1128 00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:47,960 OK, guys, do you want to let the balloons off? 1129 00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:48,880 Do you miss Brecky? 1130 00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:56,800 All right, on the count of three. 1131 00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:59,480 One, two, three, happy birthday, Breck. 1132 00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:05,520 You know what? 1133 00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:08,920 I feel it's my job to get theword out, if the work that I do 1134 00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:10,760 can save another life. 1135 00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:16,960 See Breck, we celebrate your birthday 1136 00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:18,880 whether you're here or not. 1137 00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,520 We miss you, Breck, we love you. 1138 00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:24,480 One, two, three. 80825

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