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[air whooshes]
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[ominous music]
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[spooky ethereal music]
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- Fear is a funny thing.
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Where it begins and where it
ends is never a certainty.
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Fear can form seemingly out of
nowhere
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and then disappear just as
quickly
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and we might never really know
why.
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[somber violin music]
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Some fears develop over
days, weeks, or years,
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sown from the time we're young,
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eventually bursting forth from
the seeds
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that were planted when we were
children.
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[footsteps patter]
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[door creaks]
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[birds chirp]
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But where did the seeds come
from?
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Who first planted them?
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[calming music]
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[spooky music]
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Were they simply groomed over
centuries,
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or are they unique to each
generation?
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A story is a powerful thing,
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it can move us in unexpected
ways.
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It can inspire hope or
create a sense of longing.
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[birds singing]
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[light orchestral music]
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A story can manifest
sadness or depression,
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laughter or tears.
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And yes, a story can instill
fear.
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[light foreboding music]
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[feet shuffling]
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The question we might
begin to ask ourselves
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is not who put the fear there orwhy,
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[birds chirp]
[tense music]
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but what if the stories
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that instilled it to begin withare true,
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not simply fables, but somethingmore,
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something primal and ageless.
[water splashing]
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A something whose very survivaldepends
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on our telling of tales.
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[soft music]
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[feet shuffling]
[birds cawing]
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[soft ominous music]
[birds screeching]
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[thunder rumbles]
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[horse neighs]
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[ground rumbles]
[suspenseful music]
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[animal growls]
[air whooshes]
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[person gasps]
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[animal caws]
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[person gasps]
[water splashes]
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[animal growls]
[person screams]
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[ominous orchestral music]
[feet pounding]
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[person gasps]
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[dramatic music]
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[bird caws]
[foreboding music]
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[camera clicks]
[object hums]
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[bird caws]
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[camera clicking]
[suspenseful music]
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[light bulb buzzes]
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[somber music]
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[object squishes]
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[fan blades whapping]
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[camera clicking]
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[metal bangs]
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[soft foreboding music]
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[object squishes]
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[clock chimes]
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[tense music]
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[spooky ethereal music]
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[somber piano music]
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[spooky ethereal music]
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[water sloshing]
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[birds cawing]
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[foreboding music]
[birds chirping]
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[spooky ethereal music]
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[feet shuffling]
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- Well, when the Silver Bridge
collapsed
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in December of 1967, everybody'sattention immediately went
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to the recovery effort, the
rescue effort.
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People weren't really
interested in lookin' for UFOs
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or Mothman, even though they
did.
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[light foreboding music]
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But it was such a horrible
tragedy
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that the local population was
grieving
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and mourning the loss of, you
know,
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family members and friends
and things like that.
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So the attention went from
the weird stuff in the sky
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or the Mothman sightings to
recovering bodies and cars
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from the Ohio River.
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- You know Main Street used
to be very hustle and bustle.
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And after the bridge fell in the'60s,
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that kind of broke off that
connection
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and so a lot of businesses
started to close
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and it became kind of a ghost
town
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until basically the museum
and the festival took off.
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And then, you know, during
the Mothman Festival
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you can't hardly move
there's so many people.
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You'd bring in like eight
to 10,000 people to a town
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with a population of less than
5,000.
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- Between the years of 1966 and1967,
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sightings of a red-eyed
monster, dubbed the Mothman,
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helped put the town of Point
Pleasant, West Virginia
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on the map.
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However, it was the collapse ofa bridge
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spanning the Ohio River
in December of 1967
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that brought the town to a
tragic sort of prominence.
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Since that time,
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this sleepy hamlet on the
banks of the mighty Ohio
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and the Kanawha Rivers
has adopted a strange fame
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bolstered by their mostrenowned resident, the Mothman.
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Now over 50 years
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since the Silver Bridge
tumbled into the icy waters
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and took with it 47 lives,
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Point Pleasant has begun to
rebuild.
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- Life here in Point
Pleasant is laid back.
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I mean, you know, it's not yourhustle bustle of a big city
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and I think that's why a lot
of people choose to stay here.
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- My dad is is Jeff Wamsley,
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the owner of the Mothman Museum.
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So basically from my young
adulthood up,
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Mothman pretty much
surrounds a lot of my life.
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- You know, it's just a
little Main Street town
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that just happens to have
a monster in it's history
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and it's a nice calling card.
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- Mothman became something
they fell in love with
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and then it was the town they
really fell in love with.
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And I ultimately believeMothman is what gets them here,
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but it's Point Pleasant that
brings them back every time.
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[dog barking]
[spooky music]
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[light upbeat music]
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- West Virginia is a jewel in
the rough, I always thought,
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because you know the
landscape and the beauty.
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You've got all kinds of
different areas
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like the mountains, the
streams, the river towns,
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the ski lodges, all
kinds of different things
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and I think they've done a
pretty good job
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as far as capitalizing
on the tourism aspect.
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- West Virginia is rolling
hills and beautiful creeks
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and green pastures and
football Friday night.
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- Isolated, at times boring.
[laughs]
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It's very beautiful.
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Not much happens,
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which allows being tuned
into certain things
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and also noticing things maybe
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that people in other areas may
not notice.
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It's a quiet, placid kind of
upbringing.
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Very beautiful, beautifulmountains and trees and streams.
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So that part is of course,
excellent.
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[birds singing]
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[lively fiddle music]
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- Point Pleasant sits on the
edge
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of what is known as Appalachia.
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The Appalachian Mountains are arange
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that stretches from Canada,
all the way down to Alabama.
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Rugged and rural, with a
landscape defined by jutting
rocks
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and dense forestry.
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The mountains are an essential
part
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of the Eastern United States.
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Appalachia derives its name
from the local inhabitants,
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as well as the mountains.
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It's a cultural statement
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as much as it is a geographicalone.
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A culture informed
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by the people who journeyed
through these lands
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and who settled these lands,
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not to mention the lands
themselves,
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from Scotch-Irish immigrants
to the First Nations tribes
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who occasionally traveled
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through what is now
known as West Virginia.
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These places are still
alive with a history
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that is passed down from
generation to generation.
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[water splashing]
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- The Scots-Irish settled West
Virginia.
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So about 250,000 of them
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got on a boat
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and came over to the United
States.
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Once they got here,
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the colonies were kind
of already established
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and these were sort of
outsiders,
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so they started to push them
closer to the mountains,
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the Appalachian Mountains.
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Technically the English
didn't want anybody
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moving past the mountains
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because there was an
agreement with the French.
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But we started chipping away atthat
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and that ultimately led to
the French and Indian War.
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- Well, the Natives
were kind of frightened
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of West Virginia.
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They thought West Virginia was
cursed
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and they only used West
Virginia mostly as hunting.
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So the Shawnee were here quite abit.
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The Saponi were kind of
like in the mountains
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is where the Blackfoot
Saponi Indians were all
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in the southern part of the
state, down into Virginia.
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[soft jaunty music]
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- When we started pushing into
the region
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across the Appalachians,
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the Natives chose to fight
on the side of the French.
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When the English colonists werecoming in, it was a threat,
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so the Native sided with French.
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Well, ultimately that did not gowell
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and the French left the region,
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[fighters shouting]
[weapons clanging]
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leaving the Natives kind of on
their own.
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The different tribes tried to
get together
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to form alliances to fightagainst the English if need be.
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- The Confederacy's made
up of many, many tribes
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and they were all in
and out of West Virginia
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throughout the years.
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The Shawnee were big here,
the Cherokee were here,
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Lenape, Ojibwe.
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There were many, 31 tribes.
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There were villages, there werefamilies.
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- Once the French left,
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they were really kind of left ontheir own
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and it ultimately was not
something
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that they could withstand
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and so they slowly got
pushed out of the area.
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- The traditions were extremelyimportant to pass down.
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Our elders' pasts
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were lost.
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It was extremely important to
listen and to pay attention
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and to follow the traditions.
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- We do hold onto our stories.
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You know it might be genetic aswell
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because if you look into the
Celts,
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West Virginia is mostly Celtic.
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We do have some Pennsylvania
Dutch Germans here as well,
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but that's like a natural
thing with the Celts
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and I think it's passed down
that way.
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Plus, that little bit of
Native American ancestry.
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- Well I mean there's, again
a love of music and singing
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and passing stories through thatway.
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It's more of a human
characteristic
to want to tell stories
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and make sure that your
legacy is passed on
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in one way or another.
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- As Appalachia began to
see more and more settlers,
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traditions and stories started
to merge,
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just as the remaining
Natives begin to exist
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alongside the Scotch-Irish
settlers inhabiting a land
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they once called their own.
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So too, did stories and
cultures begin to meld
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and what was born of this blendwas something wholly unique,
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Appalachian culture.
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Folktales and lore were
absorbed and transmitted
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from one generation to the next.
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Now the region was defined
as much by tales of ghosts,
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witches and red-eyed banshees
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as it was the rugged wildernessbackdrop
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where they were told.
[haunting pipe music]
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When 1966 saw the rise of the
Mothman,
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it was strangely familiar
despite its unique appearance.
256
00:15:15,431 --> 00:15:19,435
After all, it was simply
one more tale to be told
257
00:15:19,470 --> 00:15:22,714
as if a new face had been
put on an old legend.
258
00:15:23,577 --> 00:15:26,926
[soft foreboding music]
259
00:15:29,652 --> 00:15:31,447
[animal hoots]
[object thuds]
260
00:15:31,482 --> 00:15:33,656
- I grew up in Southeastern Ohio
261
00:15:33,691 --> 00:15:37,798
and during the original
sightings of the Mothman,
262
00:15:37,833 --> 00:15:40,836
I was about 10 years old.
263
00:15:40,870 --> 00:15:43,597
[ethereal music]
264
00:15:47,808 --> 00:15:51,640
Whenever I first heard about
Mothman
265
00:15:51,674 --> 00:15:54,746
was through my older male
cousins.
266
00:15:54,781 --> 00:15:56,886
One night they came over to
visit my dad
267
00:15:56,921 --> 00:15:59,751
and wanted to have a private
conversation with him.
268
00:15:59,786 --> 00:16:02,858
And they seemed very concerned,
269
00:16:02,892 --> 00:16:07,345
so of course I needed to know
what they were talking about.
270
00:16:07,380 --> 00:16:11,798
My cousins were concerned
about going night fishing
271
00:16:11,832 --> 00:16:14,421
and they were afraid that if
they did,
272
00:16:14,456 --> 00:16:18,701
that they might see or
be taken by Mothman.
273
00:16:18,736 --> 00:16:21,325
So I listened in on the
conversation
274
00:16:21,359 --> 00:16:23,913
and that's how I first
heard about Mothman.
275
00:16:25,191 --> 00:16:29,022
[haunting music]
[frogs croaking]
276
00:16:29,057 --> 00:16:32,094
Later in the summer,
277
00:16:32,129 --> 00:16:34,545
I was asleep one night,
278
00:16:34,579 --> 00:16:36,064
I heard something outside.
279
00:16:36,098 --> 00:16:39,101
I woke up.
[wings fluttering]
280
00:16:39,136 --> 00:16:40,861
[animal screeches]
I went over to the window,
281
00:16:40,896 --> 00:16:45,418
looked out and I saw red eyes inthe yard.
282
00:16:45,452 --> 00:16:48,007
Whatever it was could
have been, I don't know,
283
00:16:48,041 --> 00:16:51,286
maybe six feet or more in
height.
284
00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:54,634
And so I ran to my parents'
bedroom.
285
00:16:54,668 --> 00:16:58,845
My dad, I told him, I
thought Mothman was outside
286
00:16:58,879 --> 00:17:01,951
and he tried to tell me he
didn't think
287
00:17:01,986 --> 00:17:03,712
that that was probably Mothman.
288
00:17:04,816 --> 00:17:07,095
Now, you know, like sometimes
they'll say
289
00:17:07,129 --> 00:17:11,306
that Mothman's there to
either mourn you or whatever.
290
00:17:11,340 --> 00:17:15,482
Like just a few months
after I saw those red eyes,
291
00:17:15,517 --> 00:17:18,106
my dad was in an airplane
accident.
292
00:17:18,140 --> 00:17:19,038
[film reel clicks]
293
00:17:19,072 --> 00:17:21,833
He was one of 16 people that
survived.
294
00:17:21,868 --> 00:17:24,319
It happened in Cincinnati.
295
00:17:24,353 --> 00:17:26,045
It was like TWA 128.
296
00:17:27,425 --> 00:17:31,326
It was a flight coming
from San Diego, California
297
00:17:31,360 --> 00:17:35,226
going to Boston, but it
stopped in Cincinnati
298
00:17:35,261 --> 00:17:38,988
and there wasn't enough
runway for the jet.
299
00:17:39,023 --> 00:17:44,097
And so it went on and went intoa orchard and caught on fire
300
00:17:44,132 --> 00:17:46,582
and just like threw
people out of the plane
301
00:17:46,617 --> 00:17:47,618
all over the place.
302
00:17:47,652 --> 00:17:50,552
My dad, the seat that he was in,
303
00:17:50,586 --> 00:17:53,244
the seat right beside him was onfire
304
00:17:53,279 --> 00:17:56,903
and there was a husband
and wife behind him.
305
00:17:56,937 --> 00:17:59,457
The wife was killed and
my dad turned around
306
00:17:59,492 --> 00:18:00,941
and grabbed this guy by the hand
307
00:18:00,976 --> 00:18:03,289
and said, "If you want
to live, come with me."
308
00:18:03,323 --> 00:18:08,328
[somber music]
[film reel clicks]
309
00:18:08,949 --> 00:18:11,952
- Flight TWA 128 crashed on
approach
310
00:18:11,987 --> 00:18:16,543
to the Cincinnati airport
on November 20th, 1967,
311
00:18:16,578 --> 00:18:18,511
just shy of one month prior
312
00:18:18,545 --> 00:18:20,306
to the collapse of the Silver
Bridge
313
00:18:20,340 --> 00:18:23,136
in nearby Point Pleasant, West
Virginia.
314
00:18:23,171 --> 00:18:25,311
If there was one overwhelming
takeaway
315
00:18:25,345 --> 00:18:26,967
from the activity running
rampant
316
00:18:27,002 --> 00:18:31,144
around Point Pleasant
during 1966 and 1967,
317
00:18:32,076 --> 00:18:35,355
it was the feeling that
everything was accelerating,
318
00:18:35,390 --> 00:18:37,909
heading towards some inevitableconclusion
319
00:18:37,944 --> 00:18:40,291
that couldn't be avoided.
320
00:18:40,326 --> 00:18:44,882
When the Silver Bridge collapsedon December 15th, 1967,
321
00:18:44,916 --> 00:18:48,437
it seemed that the unavoidable
collision had been reached
322
00:18:48,472 --> 00:18:52,269
and with it, the story
of the Mothman had ended.
323
00:18:52,303 --> 00:18:54,512
The book had closed.
324
00:18:54,547 --> 00:18:55,686
For the next few months,
325
00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,896
stories of encounters with
the creature were absent.
326
00:18:58,930 --> 00:19:00,967
It seemed that the bridge
collapse had led
327
00:19:01,001 --> 00:19:03,072
to the departure of the being.
328
00:19:03,107 --> 00:19:06,869
However, nothing could have
been further from the truth.
329
00:19:06,904 --> 00:19:08,940
The book had never closed
330
00:19:08,975 --> 00:19:13,186
and in some ways the Mothman
story was just beginning.
331
00:19:13,221 --> 00:19:16,465
- I've read and collected
several newspaper articles
332
00:19:16,500 --> 00:19:19,088
from the late '60s, early '70s.
333
00:19:19,123 --> 00:19:21,298
I've talked to people
that were still seeing
334
00:19:21,332 --> 00:19:24,128
whatever this thing was in the
TNT Area
335
00:19:24,163 --> 00:19:27,235
and it was well after 1966, '67.
336
00:19:27,269 --> 00:19:28,822
A lot of the people that I've
talked to,
337
00:19:28,857 --> 00:19:32,136
I will specifically ask
them what the timeframe was
338
00:19:32,171 --> 00:19:37,176
and you know, '71, '73, '75.
[film reel clicks]
339
00:19:37,555 --> 00:19:39,143
- The Mothman frenzy
went from 1966 into 1967,
340
00:19:41,628 --> 00:19:43,389
but the activity continued.
341
00:19:43,423 --> 00:19:45,667
We lived close to the
Scarberrys.
342
00:19:45,701 --> 00:19:49,912
I grew up on a hillside in WestUnion called Shannon's Knob
343
00:19:49,947 --> 00:19:51,224
and late at night,
344
00:19:51,259 --> 00:19:55,642
it would sound like someonehad jumped out of a helicopter.
345
00:19:55,677 --> 00:19:56,609
[dark tense music]
346
00:19:56,643 --> 00:19:59,163
The roof would go, boom, just
like that.
347
00:20:00,026 --> 00:20:01,372
[animal screeching]
348
00:20:01,407 --> 00:20:04,927
There would be a pause
and then these footsteps,
349
00:20:04,962 --> 00:20:07,654
somebody was walking on our
roof.
350
00:20:07,689 --> 00:20:11,244
[feet stomping]
[roof creaking]
351
00:20:11,279 --> 00:20:13,039
[foreboding music]
352
00:20:13,073 --> 00:20:18,078
[feet stomping]
[roof creaking]
353
00:20:19,666 --> 00:20:22,290
And they might be up
there at 10, 15 minutes
354
00:20:22,324 --> 00:20:25,845
and the footsteps would stopas if something had flown away.
355
00:20:25,879 --> 00:20:28,330
And of course my parents
did not believe me,
356
00:20:28,365 --> 00:20:30,401
you know, [laughs] when
I kept telling them
357
00:20:30,436 --> 00:20:31,782
about these footsteps.
358
00:20:31,816 --> 00:20:33,922
Until I woke up early one
morning
359
00:20:33,956 --> 00:20:36,476
and I heard them talking to eachother,
360
00:20:36,511 --> 00:20:39,583
saying, "Wonder what those
footsteps are on the roof?"
361
00:20:39,617 --> 00:20:43,034
And I was pretty small, Iwasn't even quite in school yet
362
00:20:43,069 --> 00:20:46,175
and I was thinking, "I want to
go outside.
363
00:20:46,210 --> 00:20:49,869
I want to go outside and,
you know, and hide the bushes
364
00:20:49,903 --> 00:20:52,492
and see if I can see the
Mothman."
365
00:20:52,527 --> 00:20:54,805
But I never developed
the courage to do that.
366
00:20:57,635 --> 00:21:01,294
[dark violin music]
367
00:21:01,329 --> 00:21:02,882
- I talked to one lady,
368
00:21:02,916 --> 00:21:05,643
and she specifically mentioned
early '70s,
369
00:21:05,678 --> 00:21:09,268
who had a morning paper
route in the Gallipolis area.
370
00:21:09,302 --> 00:21:11,856
She'd deliver papers
about five in the morning
371
00:21:11,891 --> 00:21:16,309
and she told me that as she
was coming down the street,
372
00:21:16,344 --> 00:21:18,622
on the other side of the
street was like a guard rail,
373
00:21:18,656 --> 00:21:20,727
right beside the Ohio River.
374
00:21:20,762 --> 00:21:23,351
There's a little island that's
right off of that guard rail
375
00:21:23,385 --> 00:21:25,422
that goes out into the Ohio
River
376
00:21:25,456 --> 00:21:26,940
and she said she looked up
377
00:21:26,975 --> 00:21:29,529
and saw the biggest bird that
she'd ever seen in her life,
378
00:21:29,564 --> 00:21:31,220
sittin' there starin' at her.
379
00:21:31,255 --> 00:21:34,638
And she said it scared
her and she turned to run
380
00:21:34,672 --> 00:21:37,468
and she said, the bird
raised up, flew across
381
00:21:37,503 --> 00:21:39,712
and landed in the trees
over on this island.
382
00:21:39,746 --> 00:21:41,300
She said it was enormous.
383
00:21:41,334 --> 00:21:43,060
She was very detailed about it.
384
00:21:43,094 --> 00:21:46,615
And I asked her specifically,
you know, when this happened
385
00:21:46,650 --> 00:21:50,447
and she said, it was the
late '60s, early '70s era.
386
00:21:50,481 --> 00:21:54,416
- In the 1970s, I met my
husband and married him
387
00:21:54,451 --> 00:21:56,349
and he is from Point Pleasant.
388
00:21:56,384 --> 00:21:59,559
He and his dad were
actually out in their car,
389
00:21:59,594 --> 00:22:01,768
driving around and looking for
Mothman.
390
00:22:02,666 --> 00:22:04,392
And he was camping out in his
backyard
391
00:22:04,426 --> 00:22:08,257
hoping to find Mothman,
where I was, you know,
392
00:22:08,292 --> 00:22:11,606
40 miles away, terrified at thesame time.
393
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:13,021
- You know there were sightingsin Ohio,
394
00:22:13,055 --> 00:22:14,919
there were sightings in West
Virginia,
395
00:22:14,954 --> 00:22:16,956
Pennsylvania, Kentucky.
396
00:22:16,990 --> 00:22:20,235
It's just that that rash
of sightings didn't last
397
00:22:20,269 --> 00:22:23,307
nearly as long as it did
here in Point Pleasant.
398
00:22:23,342 --> 00:22:25,344
- Major players in the Mothman
story
399
00:22:25,378 --> 00:22:28,795
during the 1960s and
'70s included the likes
400
00:22:28,830 --> 00:22:32,903
of West Virginia UFO author
and investigator, Gray Barker
401
00:22:32,937 --> 00:22:34,283
and a newspaper reporter
402
00:22:34,318 --> 00:22:37,356
and Point Pleasant local, Mary
Hyre.
403
00:22:37,390 --> 00:22:40,324
Hyre chronicled the ongoing
activity taking place
404
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,913
following the collapse
of the Silver Bridge,
405
00:22:42,947 --> 00:22:45,916
relaying sightings of Mothman,
UFOs
406
00:22:45,950 --> 00:22:48,021
and the infamous Men in Black
407
00:22:48,056 --> 00:22:50,541
in her "Athens Messenger" columntitled,
408
00:22:50,576 --> 00:22:52,750
"Where the Waters Mingle."
409
00:22:52,785 --> 00:22:55,270
Hyre herself had a run-in
with a Man in Black
410
00:22:55,304 --> 00:22:57,790
in her Point Pleasant office
following the collapse
411
00:22:57,824 --> 00:23:01,552
of the Silver Bridge in Decemberof 1967.
412
00:23:01,587 --> 00:23:04,452
However, in February of 1970,
413
00:23:04,486 --> 00:23:08,110
Hyre would pass away
after an extended illness.
414
00:23:08,145 --> 00:23:09,491
Around Point Pleasant,
415
00:23:09,526 --> 00:23:12,460
the Mothman became less
of a talking point,
416
00:23:12,494 --> 00:23:14,082
although the UFO activity,
417
00:23:14,116 --> 00:23:16,912
which accompanied the
initial wave of strangeness,
418
00:23:16,947 --> 00:23:18,397
continued unabated.
419
00:23:20,019 --> 00:23:22,228
While Hyre was tracking ongoingreports
420
00:23:22,262 --> 00:23:24,920
during the late '60s and early
'70s,
421
00:23:24,955 --> 00:23:27,129
New York based author, John
Keel,
422
00:23:27,164 --> 00:23:29,166
was laboring over his own
recounting
423
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,272
of the 13-month-winged-creaturesiege.
424
00:23:32,307 --> 00:23:33,895
Keel would release his book,
425
00:23:33,929 --> 00:23:38,071
"The Mothman Prophecies" in
1975.
426
00:23:38,106 --> 00:23:40,902
The nonfiction saga
would become a bestseller
427
00:23:40,936 --> 00:23:43,663
and reignite an interest in thetopic.
428
00:23:43,698 --> 00:23:46,252
Keel continue to write about theMothman,
429
00:23:46,286 --> 00:23:49,082
but no longer made
trips to Point Pleasant.
430
00:23:49,117 --> 00:23:51,050
And with Mary Hyre no longer
around
431
00:23:51,084 --> 00:23:53,190
to update Keel on the Mothman,
432
00:23:53,224 --> 00:23:55,606
no one was keeping tabs on the
creature,
433
00:23:55,641 --> 00:23:57,746
who was now making its presencefelt
434
00:23:57,781 --> 00:23:59,092
around much of Appalachia.
435
00:24:00,473 --> 00:24:02,751
- I think the planets kind of
aligned
436
00:24:02,786 --> 00:24:04,581
with the sightings in Point
Pleasant
437
00:24:04,615 --> 00:24:08,343
because number one, you had
all these people seeing UFOs,
438
00:24:08,377 --> 00:24:11,311
the Men in Black, the Mothman,
the Silver Bridge collapse.
439
00:24:11,346 --> 00:24:13,659
John Keel comes to town
440
00:24:13,693 --> 00:24:17,110
and it isolated the
Point Pleasant sightings.
441
00:24:17,145 --> 00:24:20,044
- I came across "The Mothman
Prophecies," the book,
442
00:24:20,079 --> 00:24:24,463
in the mid-'90s and it
immediately got my attention
443
00:24:24,497 --> 00:24:26,188
'cause it sort of was my sweet
spot
444
00:24:26,223 --> 00:24:27,845
in terms of my interest in the
paranormal,
445
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,330
which is, well it had
tons of phenomenon in it,
446
00:24:30,365 --> 00:24:33,748
UFOs, poltergeists, the Mothman.
447
00:24:33,782 --> 00:24:35,370
And at the same time,
448
00:24:35,404 --> 00:24:37,821
the story was told from the
point of view of John Keel,
449
00:24:37,855 --> 00:24:39,650
the guy who was there
investigating it,
450
00:24:39,685 --> 00:24:43,136
and it focused so much on his
interaction
451
00:24:43,171 --> 00:24:45,794
with the phenomenon and theway it affected him personally,
452
00:24:45,829 --> 00:24:47,244
which I found fascinating.
453
00:24:47,278 --> 00:24:50,489
- Well "The Mothman Prophecies"book didn't come together
454
00:24:50,523 --> 00:24:53,526
until about 10 years after the
events.
455
00:24:53,561 --> 00:24:55,701
He did do some, there was an
article
456
00:24:55,735 --> 00:24:59,187
in "The Flying Saucer Review"
and I think "Saga Magazine"
457
00:24:59,221 --> 00:25:00,706
where he did talk about it
458
00:25:00,740 --> 00:25:02,846
and he talked about
certain elements of it.
459
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,056
Apparently his publisher told
him, he said, "Hey, look,
460
00:25:06,090 --> 00:25:08,437
it's time we put together
a book on the Mothman."
461
00:25:08,472 --> 00:25:11,993
So Keel talks about how he
got his tattered briefcase out
462
00:25:12,027 --> 00:25:15,272
and went through all his notes
and articles and so forth
463
00:25:15,306 --> 00:25:17,619
and kind of pieced together a
book.
464
00:25:17,654 --> 00:25:19,552
- What was happening in Point
Pleasant
465
00:25:19,587 --> 00:25:21,692
felt extremely personal.
466
00:25:21,727 --> 00:25:22,935
And what was interesting to me
467
00:25:22,969 --> 00:25:24,971
was this sort of interactive
nature
468
00:25:25,006 --> 00:25:27,215
of his experience with the
phenomenon.
469
00:25:27,249 --> 00:25:28,423
The more he studied it
470
00:25:28,457 --> 00:25:31,771
and the more he tried
to really nail it down
471
00:25:31,806 --> 00:25:33,739
and be totally objective,
472
00:25:33,773 --> 00:25:38,778
the more the phenomenon seemed
to want to bring him on stage
473
00:25:39,089 --> 00:25:42,195
as it were and make his
experience less objective
474
00:25:42,230 --> 00:25:45,129
and more subjective and
that's exactly what happened.
475
00:25:46,545 --> 00:25:49,720
[rain patters]
[foreboding music]
476
00:25:49,755 --> 00:25:54,725
[bird calls]
[thunder crashes]
477
00:25:55,174 --> 00:25:57,279
- In November of 1966,
478
00:25:57,314 --> 00:26:00,559
Roger and Linda Scarberry
and Steve and Mary Mallette
479
00:26:00,593 --> 00:26:02,906
had the first
regionally-reported encounter
480
00:26:02,940 --> 00:26:04,424
with the Mothman.
481
00:26:04,459 --> 00:26:06,254
The incident took place in an
area
482
00:26:06,288 --> 00:26:08,567
frequently tied to Mothman lore,
483
00:26:08,601 --> 00:26:10,361
an abandoned munitions facility
484
00:26:10,396 --> 00:26:12,743
just outside of Point Pleasant.
485
00:26:12,778 --> 00:26:16,126
The area was known as the
McClintic Wildlife Management
Area
486
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:20,579
or as locals referred to it, theTNT Area.
487
00:26:20,613 --> 00:26:23,616
While the bizarre entity would
become known as the Mothman
488
00:26:23,651 --> 00:26:25,066
a short time later,
489
00:26:25,100 --> 00:26:29,726
it was initially referred to
as the Bird or the Birdman.
490
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:30,692
[entity laughs]
491
00:26:30,727 --> 00:26:33,177
Its association with a known
avian animal
492
00:26:33,212 --> 00:26:35,628
was based in part on the
creature's wings,
493
00:26:35,663 --> 00:26:37,250
its ability to fly
494
00:26:37,285 --> 00:26:40,944
and its occasional
comparison to a large owl.
495
00:26:40,978 --> 00:26:43,740
In other words, many
encounters detailed a being
496
00:26:43,774 --> 00:26:45,880
that looked and behaved like a
bird.
497
00:26:45,914 --> 00:26:46,708
[entity caws]
498
00:26:46,743 --> 00:26:47,951
Despite stranger features
499
00:26:47,985 --> 00:26:50,470
described in later Mothman
reports,
500
00:26:50,505 --> 00:26:52,921
the ID of a man-sized winged
creature
501
00:26:52,956 --> 00:26:54,371
that descends from the sky
502
00:26:54,405 --> 00:26:57,063
to terrify people when
they least expect it
503
00:26:57,098 --> 00:27:00,791
is an ancient one and one foundworldwide.
504
00:27:02,137 --> 00:27:03,932
- John Keel, his original title,
505
00:27:03,967 --> 00:27:05,831
which never made it to press
obviously,
506
00:27:05,865 --> 00:27:07,349
was the "Year of the Garuda."
507
00:27:07,384 --> 00:27:09,489
He saw sort of a connection
508
00:27:09,524 --> 00:27:13,562
with the Hindu mythology ofthe Garuda, this winged entity.
509
00:27:13,597 --> 00:27:15,875
Of course he was knocked
down by the publisher.
510
00:27:15,910 --> 00:27:18,464
- But the Garuda is in
multiple traditions.
511
00:27:18,498 --> 00:27:22,641
In Hinduism, the Garuda
is a massive sun bird
512
00:27:22,675 --> 00:27:25,540
that ultimately becomes
the vehicle, the mount,
513
00:27:25,574 --> 00:27:26,714
for the god Vishnu.
514
00:27:26,748 --> 00:27:30,200
It is depicted as some human
features,
515
00:27:30,234 --> 00:27:32,374
sometimes two arms, sometimes
four arms,
516
00:27:32,409 --> 00:27:36,206
but the body of an eagle,
massive wings as well.
517
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:37,414
- And you know,
518
00:27:37,448 --> 00:27:39,209
when you read some aspects
of "The Mothman Prophecies,"
519
00:27:39,243 --> 00:27:41,590
"The year of the Garuda was at
hand.
520
00:27:41,625 --> 00:27:43,696
A shadow was passing over a
little town
521
00:27:43,731 --> 00:27:46,906
I had never even heard of,Point Pleasant, West Virginia."
522
00:27:46,941 --> 00:27:51,221
This winged apparition,
sometimes
winged-demon or whatever,
523
00:27:51,255 --> 00:27:54,534
I think it just lends it to theidea
524
00:27:54,569 --> 00:27:57,779
that whatever Mothman was,
it is kind of an archetype.
525
00:27:57,814 --> 00:28:01,162
[haunting violin music]
526
00:28:03,509 --> 00:28:04,752
- I remember back,
527
00:28:04,786 --> 00:28:08,169
and it started out they
didn't even call it Mothman.
528
00:28:08,203 --> 00:28:10,412
There for several months,
they called him Birdman.
529
00:28:10,447 --> 00:28:11,897
I do remember that.
530
00:28:11,931 --> 00:28:13,174
And then something went around
531
00:28:13,208 --> 00:28:17,005
that it was a sandhill
crane, the rather large crane
532
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,525
that had red feathers around itseyes.
533
00:28:19,559 --> 00:28:23,149
- The kind of explanations
that get talked about a lot,
534
00:28:23,184 --> 00:28:25,496
one of them is a sandhill crane.
535
00:28:25,531 --> 00:28:27,498
A friend of mine, Forrest
Burgess,
536
00:28:27,533 --> 00:28:30,847
once said that, "The
sandhill crane is to Mothman
537
00:28:30,881 --> 00:28:33,677
what swamp gas is to UFOs."
538
00:28:33,712 --> 00:28:35,852
You know, it's the go-to
explanation
539
00:28:35,886 --> 00:28:38,095
that makes absolutely no sense.
540
00:28:38,130 --> 00:28:40,753
- Other people thought, youknow, well, maybe it was a bird,
541
00:28:40,788 --> 00:28:42,893
but it was a mutated bird.
542
00:28:42,928 --> 00:28:45,240
You know, the TNT Area,
the waste in the TNT Area
543
00:28:45,275 --> 00:28:48,140
and the chemicals used in WorldWar II
544
00:28:48,174 --> 00:28:49,762
contaminated the ground.
545
00:28:49,797 --> 00:28:53,801
Which makes a perfect scenario
for a Boris Karloff movie.
546
00:28:53,835 --> 00:28:56,355
- I know that back in the
'80s, that they came in
547
00:28:58,322 --> 00:28:59,772
and it was an EPA disaster site
548
00:28:59,807 --> 00:29:02,430
and they had to shave two or
three inches of top soil off
549
00:29:02,464 --> 00:29:05,019
within an eight mile radius
just to clean the place up.
550
00:29:05,053 --> 00:29:07,331
- But that was maybe a way
for a lot of those people
551
00:29:07,366 --> 00:29:09,851
to validate, "Hey, yeah, it
was some sort of a monster
552
00:29:09,886 --> 00:29:12,785
because it got into this toxic
waste
553
00:29:12,820 --> 00:29:15,098
and it resembled a monster."
554
00:29:15,132 --> 00:29:16,789
It scared people, you know,
555
00:29:16,824 --> 00:29:19,930
and it's no secret that the
TNT Area was contaminated
556
00:29:19,965 --> 00:29:21,829
with a lot of stuff.
557
00:29:21,863 --> 00:29:22,899
[light haunting music]
558
00:29:22,933 --> 00:29:25,073
- It's not a natural
creature to this area.
559
00:29:25,108 --> 00:29:27,144
There wouldn't be anything
that would match that.
560
00:29:27,179 --> 00:29:30,389
There's no birds that would
have wings anywhere close
561
00:29:30,423 --> 00:29:33,323
to the size of Mothman,
you know, his wings.
562
00:29:33,357 --> 00:29:35,463
- Yes, there are many
researchers
563
00:29:35,497 --> 00:29:39,916
that look at the giant birds
as something very tangible.
564
00:29:39,950 --> 00:29:41,503
There have been a sightings
565
00:29:41,538 --> 00:29:43,643
that look like they were just
giant owls.
566
00:29:43,678 --> 00:29:46,301
and the Mothman, it's seen
in the dark sometimes,
567
00:29:46,336 --> 00:29:48,787
did look quite like kind of a
giant owl.
568
00:29:48,821 --> 00:29:49,822
[owl hoots]
569
00:29:49,857 --> 00:29:52,342
- It's common in folklore
for a screech owl.
570
00:29:52,376 --> 00:29:54,240
In Welsh there's the Corpse
Bird.
571
00:29:54,275 --> 00:29:57,071
It's a screech owl that
comes banging at the window
572
00:29:57,105 --> 00:29:59,211
of someone who's ill or sick.
573
00:29:59,245 --> 00:30:02,593
And then that motif follows
its way into Appalachia, too.
574
00:30:02,628 --> 00:30:04,664
If you see or hear an owl
575
00:30:04,699 --> 00:30:06,839
outside of your window
at night making a call,
576
00:30:06,874 --> 00:30:08,737
it's a sign that someone's goingto die.
577
00:30:08,772 --> 00:30:12,845
Likewise, if a bird flies in
your house,
578
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:14,260
that's really bad news.
579
00:30:14,295 --> 00:30:17,505
Someone is probably going
to get hurt or die as well.
580
00:30:17,539 --> 00:30:21,164
- The Native American of coursehave the Thunderbird legend,
581
00:30:21,198 --> 00:30:23,545
which some people
associate with the Mothman,
582
00:30:23,580 --> 00:30:25,754
I think maybe John Keel did
even.
583
00:30:25,789 --> 00:30:27,998
- The Thunder Bird is a
Southwest tribal,
584
00:30:28,033 --> 00:30:30,759
it is not Shawnee, it's
not Eastern Woodland.
585
00:30:30,794 --> 00:30:33,279
So it is said that the
Mothman could be tied
586
00:30:33,314 --> 00:30:36,835
to the Thunderbird, but wedidn't have a Thunderbird here.
587
00:30:37,801 --> 00:30:40,183
[foreboding music]
[object crashes]
588
00:30:40,217 --> 00:30:42,910
- Tom Ury, one of the Mothman
witnesses,
589
00:30:42,944 --> 00:30:45,774
that's really what he
saw was a giant bird,
590
00:30:45,809 --> 00:30:48,225
about a 10 to 12 foot wingspan.
591
00:30:48,260 --> 00:30:51,332
I was able to talk to him one
on one about his experience.
592
00:30:51,366 --> 00:30:53,196
In fact, Tom, for a while,
593
00:30:53,230 --> 00:30:55,888
thought that the other
people like Linda Scarberry
594
00:30:55,923 --> 00:30:57,959
and Marcella Bennett and so
forth,
595
00:30:57,994 --> 00:30:59,340
saw the same thing he did,
596
00:30:59,374 --> 00:31:01,756
but thought perhaps it was so
shocking
597
00:31:01,790 --> 00:31:04,414
that they've maybe added the
details.
598
00:31:04,448 --> 00:31:05,553
[feet stomping]
599
00:31:05,587 --> 00:31:07,279
But the thing is about the
Mothman,
600
00:31:07,313 --> 00:31:08,487
the Mothman was a paradox.
601
00:31:08,521 --> 00:31:10,075
Some people got a pretty good
look at it,
602
00:31:10,109 --> 00:31:13,354
and it was about seven feet,
tall, dark gray, or black,
603
00:31:13,388 --> 00:31:14,803
about a 10 foot wingspan.
604
00:31:14,838 --> 00:31:17,599
A 10 foot wingspan probably
isn't gonna lift something
605
00:31:17,634 --> 00:31:18,877
that's seven foot tall.
606
00:31:18,911 --> 00:31:22,018
Just biologically it didn'twork, but people kept seeing it.
607
00:31:23,882 --> 00:31:27,092
[ominous music]
608
00:31:27,126 --> 00:31:29,957
[birds cawing]
609
00:31:29,991 --> 00:31:33,098
- While the 1980s were a dead
zone for Mothman research,
610
00:31:33,132 --> 00:31:34,927
sightings of winged humanoids
611
00:31:34,962 --> 00:31:37,274
and giant birds continued
around Appalachia.
612
00:31:38,172 --> 00:31:39,587
In Northern Pennsylvania,
613
00:31:39,621 --> 00:31:42,141
a string of reports of a
pterosaur-like creature
614
00:31:42,176 --> 00:31:45,524
made regional headlines
during the early '80s.
615
00:31:45,558 --> 00:31:48,907
Meanwhile, around Point
Pleasant and West Virginia,
616
00:31:48,941 --> 00:31:51,185
the red-eyed creature
that dominated headlines
617
00:31:51,219 --> 00:31:56,017
during the late 1960s had
faded into relative obscurity.
618
00:31:56,052 --> 00:31:58,847
Despite the Mothman's lack of
popularity,
619
00:31:58,882 --> 00:32:00,470
kids still warned one another
620
00:32:00,504 --> 00:32:03,956
about venturing into
the TNT Area after dark.
621
00:32:03,991 --> 00:32:06,614
Tales also circulated amongst
the locals,
622
00:32:06,648 --> 00:32:08,202
such as one in which hunters
623
00:32:08,236 --> 00:32:10,342
encountered a mysteriously largebird
624
00:32:10,376 --> 00:32:12,447
in the early morning hours.
625
00:32:12,482 --> 00:32:15,036
A group of teenagers even
claimed to have found a pile
626
00:32:15,071 --> 00:32:16,969
of abnormally large feathers
627
00:32:17,004 --> 00:32:19,351
in one of the abandoned TNT
bunkers.
628
00:32:20,455 --> 00:32:21,905
As the years tick by,
629
00:32:21,940 --> 00:32:24,563
the reality of what was
encountered began to fade
630
00:32:24,597 --> 00:32:26,875
and was replaced by something
else,
631
00:32:26,910 --> 00:32:29,361
a modern folktale in the making.
632
00:32:29,395 --> 00:32:31,397
Still, an absence of evidence
633
00:32:31,432 --> 00:32:34,642
doesn't necessarily indicate
evidence of absence,
634
00:32:34,676 --> 00:32:38,473
as Leah Wilson discovered
in the summer of 1987.
635
00:32:38,508 --> 00:32:40,820
- I was in Calhoun County, WestVirginia,
636
00:32:40,855 --> 00:32:44,169
Leading Creek Road, it's
outside of Grantsville,
637
00:32:44,203 --> 00:32:47,517
my aunt and uncle's old farm
house.
638
00:32:47,551 --> 00:32:49,450
A few months before
that, like in the spring,
639
00:32:49,484 --> 00:32:50,485
people were talkin' about,
640
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,937
like their chickens and
stuff coming up missing,
641
00:32:53,972 --> 00:32:55,145
you know overnight.
642
00:32:55,180 --> 00:32:57,389
But they would talk about weirdnoises,
643
00:32:57,423 --> 00:33:00,944
but no one had ever talkedabout actually seein' anything.
644
00:33:00,979 --> 00:33:03,360
The farmhouse, there's nothing
around it.
645
00:33:03,395 --> 00:33:05,949
So there's no other residents
for like a half a mile
646
00:33:05,984 --> 00:33:07,744
from the house that I was
stayin' in.
647
00:33:07,778 --> 00:33:11,023
And it was probably 1987, '88,
648
00:33:11,058 --> 00:33:12,818
somewhere around there,
summertime,
649
00:33:14,509 --> 00:33:16,028
it was like two o'clock in the
morning,
650
00:33:16,063 --> 00:33:17,098
I was just goin' to bed
651
00:33:17,133 --> 00:33:19,031
from after watching movies and
stuff.
652
00:33:20,101 --> 00:33:21,240
[voices murmuring]
[foreboding music]
653
00:33:21,275 --> 00:33:25,279
And across the street from
the farmhouse is a holler
654
00:33:25,313 --> 00:33:29,317
that goes up on the hill and
I started hearing this noise.
655
00:33:29,352 --> 00:33:31,802
[creature screeches]
656
00:33:31,837 --> 00:33:33,252
You could tell us some kind of,
657
00:33:33,287 --> 00:33:35,013
I thought it was kind
of a bird-type thing.
658
00:33:35,047 --> 00:33:37,463
I thought maybe it was
an owl or somethin',
659
00:33:37,498 --> 00:33:40,501
but it just kept getting closerand closer
660
00:33:40,535 --> 00:33:42,675
and louder and louder.
661
00:33:42,710 --> 00:33:43,918
[creature screeches]
662
00:33:43,952 --> 00:33:46,783
The only way I can describe
it is the Hollywood movies,
663
00:33:46,817 --> 00:33:48,543
the pterodactyl noises, you
know,
664
00:33:48,578 --> 00:33:49,786
that's the only way I can
describe it.
665
00:33:49,820 --> 00:33:54,687
It was that loud and that
piercing and it kind of had,
666
00:33:55,102 --> 00:33:57,069
I don't know, kind of a
giggling,
667
00:33:57,104 --> 00:33:59,071
loud giggling noise to it, too.
668
00:33:59,106 --> 00:34:00,935
I mean, it's really hard to
describe.
669
00:34:01,970 --> 00:34:05,077
By the time I sat up
to look out the window,
670
00:34:05,112 --> 00:34:07,079
'cause I thought whatever this
was
671
00:34:07,114 --> 00:34:09,737
was gonna fly right into the
window,
672
00:34:09,771 --> 00:34:13,879
the wingspan of this covered thewindows.
673
00:34:15,536 --> 00:34:18,090
[spooky music]
674
00:34:18,987 --> 00:34:21,921
And then when it got to
that part of the house
675
00:34:21,956 --> 00:34:24,752
and went up over the house,
you actually could hear it.
676
00:34:24,786 --> 00:34:28,100
You actually heard the whoosh
sound.
677
00:34:28,135 --> 00:34:31,724
Again, not sure what I wasgonna do or what I'd just seen.
678
00:34:31,759 --> 00:34:33,968
I turned around to the
back window of the bedroom
679
00:34:34,002 --> 00:34:36,350
and you could see the shadow
of whatever this was flyin'
680
00:34:36,384 --> 00:34:39,318
over the field to the back of
the house.
681
00:34:39,353 --> 00:34:41,251
I've never heard anything like
that.
682
00:34:41,286 --> 00:34:46,291
I have stayed at that country
house all my life, you know,
683
00:34:46,705 --> 00:34:49,052
never heard it, never seen
it, anything like that again.
684
00:34:49,087 --> 00:34:51,537
So not sure what it was,
685
00:34:51,572 --> 00:34:54,471
but it was something that was
very large
686
00:34:54,506 --> 00:34:56,749
and very loud and very fast.
687
00:34:56,784 --> 00:34:58,130
'Cause that holler that it cameout
688
00:34:58,165 --> 00:35:00,028
was probably about a mile long.
689
00:35:00,063 --> 00:35:03,342
You know, I was the first one
on that Leading Creek Road
690
00:35:03,377 --> 00:35:05,931
that actually seen somethin'.
691
00:35:07,001 --> 00:35:09,417
[bird screeches]
692
00:35:09,452 --> 00:35:11,316
- You know I think there
were things going on
693
00:35:11,350 --> 00:35:13,145
all the way through the '80s and'90s.
694
00:35:13,180 --> 00:35:15,699
It's real hard to validate
a lot of that stuff
695
00:35:15,734 --> 00:35:18,806
because sometimes it
comes from other states,
696
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:20,739
but it's hard for me to pinpointand say,
697
00:35:20,773 --> 00:35:25,640
that's exactly what they were
seeing here in 1966, '67.
698
00:35:26,641 --> 00:35:28,850
[soft foreboding music]
699
00:35:28,885 --> 00:35:31,163
- We had that other
sighting in Parkersburg
700
00:35:31,198 --> 00:35:34,166
of the girl having seen it on
Quincy Hill.
701
00:35:34,201 --> 00:35:38,860
She said when she was
in high school in 1987,
702
00:35:38,895 --> 00:35:41,553
she and her boyfriend were
driving
703
00:35:41,587 --> 00:35:43,624
to the top of Quincy Hill,
704
00:35:43,658 --> 00:35:46,730
which is the highest
location in Parkersburg.
705
00:35:46,765 --> 00:35:48,007
Something very similar,
706
00:35:48,042 --> 00:35:51,114
they saw this huge creature
was walking across the street.
707
00:35:51,149 --> 00:35:54,600
She said, it looked like
six-and-a-half-foot insect.
708
00:35:54,635 --> 00:35:56,878
She said its knees were on
backwards,
709
00:35:56,913 --> 00:35:58,570
you know like an insect's leg
710
00:35:58,604 --> 00:35:59,433
[camera clicks]
711
00:35:59,467 --> 00:36:00,951
and had these huge wings as
well.
712
00:36:00,986 --> 00:36:04,472
But she said, the thing
that stood out to her was
713
00:36:04,507 --> 00:36:07,889
this creature had a shuffling
gait,
714
00:36:07,924 --> 00:36:11,445
like it was not used
to walking on its feet.
715
00:36:11,479 --> 00:36:14,068
That told me she was tellin' thetruth
716
00:36:14,102 --> 00:36:16,381
because I had read a lot
of the written accounts
717
00:36:16,415 --> 00:36:17,761
down a Point Pleasant,
718
00:36:17,796 --> 00:36:20,523
they all described the
Mothman as walking that way.
719
00:36:21,455 --> 00:36:23,008
- In the early 1990s,
720
00:36:23,042 --> 00:36:25,217
a Point Pleasant local named
Darren Hayes
721
00:36:25,252 --> 00:36:28,151
encountered the Mothman in the
TNT Area.
722
00:36:28,186 --> 00:36:31,223
While talking to Jeff Wamsley
in an interview for his book,
723
00:36:31,258 --> 00:36:33,777
"Mothman, Behind the Red Eyes,"
724
00:36:33,812 --> 00:36:36,159
Hayes recalled while
driving into the area,
725
00:36:36,194 --> 00:36:40,163
a massive winged humanoid-bird
appeared above the car.
726
00:36:40,198 --> 00:36:41,785
As Hayes stepped on the gas,
727
00:36:41,820 --> 00:36:44,685
the creature made five or
six passes over the car
728
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,963
before the vehicle eventually
outran it
729
00:36:46,997 --> 00:36:49,793
as the men headed back to PointPleasant.
730
00:36:49,828 --> 00:36:50,691
[creature caws]
[air whooshes]
731
00:36:50,725 --> 00:36:52,658
Darren's account wouldn't becomepublic
732
00:36:52,693 --> 00:36:54,867
until the publication of
Wamsley's book
733
00:36:54,902 --> 00:36:56,662
nearly a decade later.
734
00:36:56,697 --> 00:36:57,870
The story illustrates
735
00:36:57,905 --> 00:37:01,564
that the Mothman was still
making its presence felt.
736
00:37:01,598 --> 00:37:04,222
Perhaps no one felt the
creature's presence more
737
00:37:04,256 --> 00:37:05,982
than John Keel.
738
00:37:06,016 --> 00:37:08,053
Despite living states away
739
00:37:08,087 --> 00:37:10,055
and making an effort to distancehimself
740
00:37:10,089 --> 00:37:11,953
from "The Mothman Prophecies,"
741
00:37:11,988 --> 00:37:14,508
the author felt himself
pulled back to the story
742
00:37:14,542 --> 00:37:15,923
over the years.
743
00:37:15,957 --> 00:37:16,786
[birds chirping]
[somber music]
744
00:37:16,820 --> 00:37:18,443
- People thought he had the
answers
745
00:37:18,477 --> 00:37:20,928
because he had spent so
much time in Point Pleasant.
746
00:37:20,962 --> 00:37:23,724
He stayed with Linda's family,
Linda Scarberry's family.
747
00:37:23,758 --> 00:37:24,966
In "The Mothman Prophecies,"
748
00:37:25,001 --> 00:37:28,038
it talks about how his
life became intertwined
749
00:37:28,073 --> 00:37:29,730
with the people of the Ohio
Valley,
750
00:37:29,764 --> 00:37:31,835
especially in Point Pleasant.
751
00:37:31,870 --> 00:37:32,871
- Here's how it went.
752
00:37:32,905 --> 00:37:34,769
When John Keel was there,
753
00:37:34,804 --> 00:37:37,082
the entire town was sort of
haunted.
754
00:37:37,116 --> 00:37:40,982
The people that he was
speaking to were very scared
755
00:37:41,017 --> 00:37:42,052
about what was going on.
756
00:37:42,087 --> 00:37:43,882
There seemed to be a general
understanding
757
00:37:43,916 --> 00:37:46,816
that all of this was going
to lead to something bad,
758
00:37:46,850 --> 00:37:49,508
at least that's certainly
what John Keel felt.
759
00:37:49,543 --> 00:37:52,097
- He had proposed some
ideas for other books
760
00:37:52,131 --> 00:37:53,271
that never came about.
761
00:37:53,305 --> 00:37:56,343
He seemed to kind of move away
from it.
762
00:37:56,377 --> 00:37:58,862
I remember hearing people
that interviewed him,
763
00:37:58,897 --> 00:38:00,416
they want to talk about the
Mothman,
764
00:38:00,450 --> 00:38:01,900
he would change the subject,
765
00:38:01,934 --> 00:38:03,936
he would want to talk
about something else.
766
00:38:03,971 --> 00:38:05,317
- Because he was solving his ownmystery
767
00:38:05,352 --> 00:38:07,146
and he really wanted an answer.
768
00:38:07,181 --> 00:38:09,873
And like most of us do
when we first get involved
769
00:38:09,908 --> 00:38:12,359
in the paranormal,
770
00:38:12,393 --> 00:38:15,569
we think, on a certain level,
we're gonna figure it out.
771
00:38:15,603 --> 00:38:19,711
The experience typically
does not provide an answer
772
00:38:19,745 --> 00:38:21,540
and it certainly didn't for JohnKeel.
773
00:38:21,575 --> 00:38:24,647
- When people would ask
him, "What was the Mothman?
774
00:38:24,681 --> 00:38:25,682
What was it all about?"
775
00:38:25,717 --> 00:38:28,202
He'd have to be honest
and say he didn't know.
776
00:38:28,236 --> 00:38:29,514
I mean, he didn't have the
answers.
777
00:38:29,548 --> 00:38:32,344
He was someone that chronicled
the events.
778
00:38:32,379 --> 00:38:34,381
A very important thing about
Keel,
779
00:38:34,415 --> 00:38:38,143
he didn't reject stuff that
didn't fit a certain paradigm.
780
00:38:38,177 --> 00:38:42,285
And that's how he became towrite books like "Trojan Horse,"
781
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,460
because he began to see
the interconnectedness
782
00:38:44,494 --> 00:38:46,151
of all paranormal activity.
783
00:38:47,325 --> 00:38:50,466
[soft brooding music]
784
00:38:51,812 --> 00:38:54,366
[spooky music]
785
00:38:59,406 --> 00:39:02,374
[birds cawing]
786
00:39:02,409 --> 00:39:06,551
- So I grew up pretty much
right near the woodlot.
787
00:39:08,967 --> 00:39:10,451
We were the last house actually,
788
00:39:10,486 --> 00:39:12,039
before it turns into the woods
789
00:39:12,073 --> 00:39:14,213
and you know, a very small area.
790
00:39:14,248 --> 00:39:16,181
And there was a community area,
791
00:39:18,666 --> 00:39:20,427
an old community area
792
00:39:20,461 --> 00:39:23,464
and passed down, you
know, family to family,
793
00:39:23,499 --> 00:39:24,879
one of those kind of deals.
794
00:39:26,329 --> 00:39:27,572
I've been going over it in my
head
795
00:39:27,606 --> 00:39:28,918
and this is pretty much how it
went.
796
00:39:29,988 --> 00:39:32,611
We were comin' home, it
was either 1999 or 2000,
797
00:39:34,786 --> 00:39:35,787
[engine roars]
We were comin' home
798
00:39:35,821 --> 00:39:37,202
and it was late in the evening.
799
00:39:38,514 --> 00:39:40,032
We're coming around the first
curve
800
00:39:40,067 --> 00:39:43,242
and the first curve will be
near a graveyard actually,
801
00:39:43,277 --> 00:39:46,625
it's an old family graveyard,
it's up on a hill there.
802
00:39:46,660 --> 00:39:49,904
And as we go around the
curve, we slowed down
803
00:39:49,939 --> 00:39:53,632
and the headlights hit
somethin' in the road.
804
00:39:57,464 --> 00:39:59,397
What they hit was a form
805
00:40:00,570 --> 00:40:02,883
and for a split second, I
thought, "Oh, it's a large
bird,"
806
00:40:02,917 --> 00:40:04,056
and all that.
807
00:40:04,091 --> 00:40:06,438
And then, we're sitting there
you know,
808
00:40:06,473 --> 00:40:09,337
and this thing, whatever it was,
809
00:40:09,372 --> 00:40:11,236
you notice really quickly it's
not a bird
810
00:40:11,270 --> 00:40:13,100
because you can kinda
almost see through it.
811
00:40:13,134 --> 00:40:15,343
It has this weird, not
translucent,
812
00:40:15,378 --> 00:40:17,553
but almost like it was
phasing or shifting.
813
00:40:18,485 --> 00:40:20,763
It kinda stands up a little bit
814
00:40:20,797 --> 00:40:23,455
and puts out what I assume werewings,
815
00:40:23,490 --> 00:40:24,698
I mean, arms somethin'
816
00:40:24,732 --> 00:40:26,769
and they reached almost
to the sides of the road.
817
00:40:26,803 --> 00:40:30,600
But with just one movement,
it shot straight up.
818
00:40:30,635 --> 00:40:32,533
And as it's shootin'
straight up, you know,
819
00:40:32,568 --> 00:40:34,293
we're sitting there and you
could hear it
820
00:40:34,328 --> 00:40:35,467
and you can see it, too.
821
00:40:35,502 --> 00:40:37,573
There were twigs fallin', you
know?
822
00:40:37,607 --> 00:40:39,126
It made no sense.
823
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,404
The speed at which it
moved, I have no idea.
824
00:40:41,439 --> 00:40:44,165
Now I never thought for one
second when this happened,
825
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:45,753
by the way, you know,
826
00:40:45,788 --> 00:40:47,755
that was Mothman or that was
somethin'.
827
00:40:47,790 --> 00:40:52,070
Nope, what I felt was
absolute, 100% fear, terror.
828
00:40:52,104 --> 00:40:53,796
I hit the gas as hard as I
possibly could.
829
00:40:53,830 --> 00:40:56,661
I don't think I ever got
that car to go as fast
830
00:40:56,695 --> 00:40:57,938
as I did that night.
831
00:40:57,972 --> 00:40:59,042
And it weird about that,
832
00:40:59,077 --> 00:41:01,079
and I looked back at it to thisday,
833
00:41:01,113 --> 00:41:05,117
but something said, "Get
out," and I got out.
834
00:41:05,152 --> 00:41:05,946
[tires screeching]
835
00:41:05,980 --> 00:41:07,292
Yeah, it was pretty scary.
836
00:41:07,326 --> 00:41:10,260
[foreboding music]
837
00:41:14,713 --> 00:41:17,820
But what is really weird about
the story
838
00:41:17,854 --> 00:41:19,442
is not my sighting,
839
00:41:21,306 --> 00:41:23,515
the part that gets me is,
840
00:41:23,550 --> 00:41:25,586
where it happened is only about
841
00:41:26,518 --> 00:41:28,624
just maybe a couple hundred
yards
842
00:41:28,658 --> 00:41:31,834
from where my mom had a sighting
843
00:41:31,868 --> 00:41:34,699
and that would have been in the'50s.
844
00:41:34,733 --> 00:41:38,426
And her and four other people atthe time
845
00:41:38,461 --> 00:41:41,084
had seen what they
described as a gray ghost.
846
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,882
They were walking along
the ridge line at the time.
847
00:41:45,917 --> 00:41:49,541
They said that this gray thing
appeared near the graveyard
848
00:41:50,473 --> 00:41:51,888
and
849
00:41:51,923 --> 00:41:52,717
to them,
850
00:41:52,751 --> 00:41:53,718
it just
851
00:41:55,098 --> 00:41:56,099
went up in the air.
852
00:41:56,134 --> 00:41:58,377
That was their words.
"It went up in the air."
853
00:41:59,551 --> 00:42:00,725
I didn't even, you know,
854
00:42:00,759 --> 00:42:02,554
we've heard that story so much
growin' up
855
00:42:02,589 --> 00:42:05,246
and it's just like, you
know, it never really clicked
856
00:42:05,281 --> 00:42:06,420
until that night I saw that
thing.
857
00:42:06,454 --> 00:42:08,353
I'm like, "This is where they
saw it."
858
00:42:09,699 --> 00:42:13,358
[spooky music]
[birds calling]
859
00:42:13,392 --> 00:42:17,327
- From sandhill crane to
giant owl, to mythical birds,
860
00:42:17,362 --> 00:42:19,882
during the 1960s and up until
the release
861
00:42:19,916 --> 00:42:23,506
of John Keel's seminal book in
1975,
862
00:42:23,541 --> 00:42:26,578
the most common theories as
to what the creature might be
863
00:42:26,613 --> 00:42:30,340
all revolved around tangible
flesh and bone beings,
864
00:42:30,375 --> 00:42:33,343
animals that either existed
within known science
865
00:42:33,378 --> 00:42:35,138
or on its fringes.
866
00:42:35,173 --> 00:42:38,072
Yet with the release of
"The Mothman Prophecies,"
867
00:42:38,107 --> 00:42:39,971
something new is proposed.
868
00:42:40,005 --> 00:42:43,008
Suddenly, the answers as
to what the entity might be
869
00:42:43,043 --> 00:42:45,908
weren't being sought in
the pages of science,
870
00:42:45,942 --> 00:42:48,117
but in the realms of physics.
871
00:42:48,151 --> 00:42:51,569
As Keel put forth his own ideasabout alternate dimensions
872
00:42:51,603 --> 00:42:54,123
and realities to explain the
Mothman,
873
00:42:54,157 --> 00:42:58,023
similar theories were beingpresented for various phenomena.
874
00:42:58,058 --> 00:42:59,577
Could the Mothman be a visitor
875
00:42:59,611 --> 00:43:01,717
from another plane of existence,
876
00:43:01,751 --> 00:43:03,822
one beyond our own?
877
00:43:03,857 --> 00:43:06,825
If so, was there something
about Point Pleasant,
878
00:43:06,860 --> 00:43:08,447
or even all of Appalachia,
879
00:43:08,482 --> 00:43:12,037
that acted as a gateway
between these realities?
880
00:43:12,072 --> 00:43:14,074
Legends suggest that Native
Americans
881
00:43:14,108 --> 00:43:17,422
avoided much of the land
where West Virginia now sits,
882
00:43:17,456 --> 00:43:18,665
leading to speculation
883
00:43:18,699 --> 00:43:22,047
that the earth itself in
this place was cursed.
884
00:43:22,082 --> 00:43:24,394
In later years, an unfounded
story
885
00:43:24,429 --> 00:43:27,363
regarding a supposed curse
placed on Point Pleasant
886
00:43:27,397 --> 00:43:29,054
began to circulate.
887
00:43:29,089 --> 00:43:30,711
It involved the real life murder
888
00:43:30,746 --> 00:43:33,749
of a Native chief named
Cornstalk.
889
00:43:33,783 --> 00:43:36,648
Though likely having
little basis in reality,
890
00:43:36,683 --> 00:43:39,168
it is possible that some kernelof truth
891
00:43:39,202 --> 00:43:41,480
does exist in the story.
892
00:43:41,515 --> 00:43:44,967
Perhaps the curse in question
was simply a word ascribed
893
00:43:45,001 --> 00:43:48,626
to a location that seemed
to invite strangeness,
894
00:43:48,660 --> 00:43:49,937
if not tragedy.
895
00:43:52,215 --> 00:43:53,251
[animal whines]
[dark haunting music]
896
00:43:53,285 --> 00:43:55,460
[creature calls]
897
00:43:55,494 --> 00:43:58,566
[wings flapping]
[birds calling]
898
00:43:58,601 --> 00:43:59,844
- What I have gathered
899
00:43:59,878 --> 00:44:02,570
is that there are parts in the
Ohio Valley
900
00:44:02,605 --> 00:44:05,021
that are kind of believed to becursed.
901
00:44:05,056 --> 00:44:06,229
They're a land of the dead.
902
00:44:06,264 --> 00:44:09,163
It was common for people
to be buried closer
903
00:44:09,198 --> 00:44:10,061
to bodies of water.
904
00:44:10,095 --> 00:44:11,649
That's where we find some of themounds.
905
00:44:11,683 --> 00:44:13,133
It's a valley of the dead,
906
00:44:13,167 --> 00:44:16,861
so I would think that
any place along a river
907
00:44:16,895 --> 00:44:18,034
is kind of the same thing.
908
00:44:18,069 --> 00:44:19,622
There's probably a lot of
burials there.
909
00:44:19,657 --> 00:44:22,142
Different Native American
tribes believed so strongly
910
00:44:22,176 --> 00:44:23,661
that they wouldn't come at
night.
911
00:44:23,695 --> 00:44:24,558
They would not.
912
00:44:24,592 --> 00:44:25,766
- There's a lot of people that
believed
913
00:44:25,801 --> 00:44:27,665
the movement of water is
conducive
914
00:44:27,699 --> 00:44:31,772
to helping to produce
some of this activity.
915
00:44:31,807 --> 00:44:33,878
And yes, I find it easy to
believe
916
00:44:33,912 --> 00:44:35,914
that there is something
about the confluence
917
00:44:35,949 --> 00:44:38,192
of the rivers coming together.
918
00:44:38,227 --> 00:44:40,229
There's even the lore
about crossroads, you know,
919
00:44:40,263 --> 00:44:41,920
the Devil's Crossroads or
whatever,
920
00:44:41,955 --> 00:44:45,337
and that's where Indrid Cold
was supposed to have shown up
921
00:44:45,372 --> 00:44:47,132
along Route 77 there.
922
00:44:48,893 --> 00:44:51,516
- That's common in a lot
of different cultures.
923
00:44:51,550 --> 00:44:53,967
The idea that a river or a
confluence
924
00:44:54,001 --> 00:44:57,522
of bodies of water is a
gateway somewhere, yes.
925
00:44:57,556 --> 00:45:01,112
[somber ethereal music]
926
00:45:01,146 --> 00:45:02,182
- Keel did not believe
927
00:45:02,216 --> 00:45:04,667
that we were interacting
with extraterrestrials.
928
00:45:04,702 --> 00:45:06,531
He called them
ultra-terrestrials.
929
00:45:06,565 --> 00:45:08,775
In other words, something
that is earth bound,
930
00:45:08,809 --> 00:45:11,985
some sort of phenomenon
that originates on earth
931
00:45:12,019 --> 00:45:15,333
that we can sometimes
see and interact with.
932
00:45:15,367 --> 00:45:18,957
And it might be from another
dimension,
933
00:45:18,992 --> 00:45:22,133
or it might simply be a little
bit outside
934
00:45:22,167 --> 00:45:25,757
our normal perceptual abilities.
935
00:45:25,792 --> 00:45:28,139
- Keel used the term
ultra-terrestrial
936
00:45:28,173 --> 00:45:29,657
and he revealed in later years,
937
00:45:29,692 --> 00:45:31,556
he used it as a literary device.
938
00:45:32,799 --> 00:45:34,214
Again, he wasn't really fixed
939
00:45:34,248 --> 00:45:35,594
in his thinking about these
things.
940
00:45:35,629 --> 00:45:39,771
It was really a term used to
suggest that these entities,
941
00:45:39,806 --> 00:45:42,705
whatever they are, wherever
they actually come from,
942
00:45:42,740 --> 00:45:44,811
may be a natural condition of
the planets,
943
00:45:44,845 --> 00:45:47,952
suggesting that they're not
necessarily from off world
944
00:45:47,986 --> 00:45:50,299
or are even necessarily
from another dimension.
945
00:45:50,333 --> 00:45:53,992
- They're your radio
waves and ultraviolet rays
946
00:45:54,027 --> 00:45:56,857
and various things that
exist and we know they exist,
947
00:45:56,892 --> 00:45:58,031
but we can't see them.
948
00:45:58,065 --> 00:46:00,827
But what if under somecircumstances we could see them,
949
00:46:00,861 --> 00:46:02,552
what else would we see?
950
00:46:02,587 --> 00:46:04,623
And I think his notion was that
951
00:46:04,658 --> 00:46:09,249
what we might see is
Indrid Cold or the Mothman.
952
00:46:09,283 --> 00:46:10,491
- So the idea would be
953
00:46:10,526 --> 00:46:14,495
that perhaps we can't really
conceive of other dimensions
954
00:46:14,530 --> 00:46:18,499
and these creatures or whatever,while they exist with us,
955
00:46:18,534 --> 00:46:21,261
can hide or pass into
these other dimensions.
956
00:46:21,295 --> 00:46:24,471
People will use the
term vortex or a portal
957
00:46:24,505 --> 00:46:26,438
or a window area.
958
00:46:27,474 --> 00:46:31,409
- I do know that in the
1980s and even before,
959
00:46:31,443 --> 00:46:36,448
the TNT Area was a hub for a
lot of occult type activity,
960
00:46:36,828 --> 00:46:40,211
you know, the activity in the
TNT Area for all those years.
961
00:46:40,245 --> 00:46:42,765
Is it possible that maybe
somebody did something
962
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,941
to open up some kind of portal
963
00:46:45,975 --> 00:46:47,943
to let some kind of activity in?
964
00:46:47,977 --> 00:46:49,772
Why would it just choose Point
Pleasant?
965
00:46:49,807 --> 00:46:51,809
Or there's all kinds of
questions
966
00:46:51,843 --> 00:46:53,707
and even John Keel himself
thought
967
00:46:53,741 --> 00:46:56,020
that there was some kind
of portal in the TNT Area.
968
00:46:56,054 --> 00:46:58,160
And if you've ever been to the
TNT Area,
969
00:46:58,194 --> 00:47:00,610
there very well could
be, you'd never know it,
970
00:47:00,645 --> 00:47:03,786
if you believe in that kind
of thing because it's so vast.
971
00:47:03,821 --> 00:47:05,615
[mysterious music]
972
00:47:05,650 --> 00:47:07,341
I've talked to several people
973
00:47:07,376 --> 00:47:11,035
that have seen hooded figures upthere.
974
00:47:11,069 --> 00:47:12,174
When I was a kid,
975
00:47:12,208 --> 00:47:13,209
there was a rumor going around
976
00:47:13,244 --> 00:47:15,487
that the 13th gate to
hell was in the TNT area
977
00:47:15,522 --> 00:47:17,765
and that's what I remember
about my childhood.
978
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:19,595
Kind of makes you want to stay
away.
979
00:47:21,079 --> 00:47:23,150
My dad's sister, I'm gonna out
her,
980
00:47:23,185 --> 00:47:26,740
but she snuck out in highschool with a bunch of friends,
981
00:47:26,774 --> 00:47:28,052
went up to the TNT Area.
982
00:47:28,086 --> 00:47:29,087
That's not unusual,
983
00:47:29,122 --> 00:47:30,882
a lot of people used to
do that kind of thing.
984
00:47:30,917 --> 00:47:32,435
Inside the igloos that are up
there,
985
00:47:32,470 --> 00:47:35,300
there's like 100 of these
bunkers.
986
00:47:35,335 --> 00:47:38,062
Well, there's just a few of
those that are open today,
987
00:47:38,096 --> 00:47:40,512
but people like to go
up there and investigate
988
00:47:40,547 --> 00:47:41,997
and all that kind of stuff.
989
00:47:42,031 --> 00:47:43,861
Well, they had went into one
990
00:47:43,895 --> 00:47:45,932
and said that there was all
these symbols
991
00:47:45,966 --> 00:47:48,348
written all over the walls
992
00:47:48,382 --> 00:47:52,317
and there was a table with a
outline
993
00:47:52,352 --> 00:47:53,905
of a cat,
994
00:47:53,940 --> 00:47:55,873
where somebody had sacrificed acat.
995
00:47:55,907 --> 00:47:58,737
There was always stories
that, once a year,
996
00:47:58,772 --> 00:48:01,671
that there was a large group ofoccultists
997
00:48:01,706 --> 00:48:03,087
that would come and meet.
998
00:48:03,121 --> 00:48:05,261
I know another girl that
was one of my neighbors
999
00:48:05,296 --> 00:48:07,022
that lived up in that area
1000
00:48:07,056 --> 00:48:10,094
that said that she was
walking in the TNT Area
1001
00:48:10,128 --> 00:48:11,819
with her parents one day
1002
00:48:11,854 --> 00:48:13,373
and said that she'd looked over
1003
00:48:13,407 --> 00:48:16,169
and she'd seen this giant fire
1004
00:48:16,203 --> 00:48:18,136
and there was all these
people in these hoods
1005
00:48:18,171 --> 00:48:20,794
just like standing there aroundit.
1006
00:48:20,828 --> 00:48:23,003
And she said she freaked out andran off.
1007
00:48:23,038 --> 00:48:25,937
[frantic music]
[cat screaming]
1008
00:48:25,972 --> 00:48:27,732
- You know, some of the
people that encountered this,
1009
00:48:27,766 --> 00:48:31,149
you know, Mothman,
giant bird-type creature
1010
00:48:31,184 --> 00:48:35,188
that said it was more on a
supernatural type of basis.
1011
00:48:35,222 --> 00:48:37,155
They felt that what they were
seeing
1012
00:48:37,190 --> 00:48:41,159
was not a tangible thing they
could reach out and touch,
1013
00:48:41,194 --> 00:48:43,817
but it was more of a vision of
evil.
1014
00:48:43,851 --> 00:48:44,852
They said, you know,
1015
00:48:44,887 --> 00:48:47,717
"This wasn't an animal
or anything like that,
1016
00:48:47,752 --> 00:48:50,720
it was more of somethin'
that just popped up
1017
00:48:50,755 --> 00:48:52,343
and I couldn't explain it."
1018
00:48:52,377 --> 00:48:53,620
[ominous music]
1019
00:48:53,654 --> 00:48:56,071
I think there's a lot of
people that tend to think
1020
00:48:56,105 --> 00:48:58,901
that it was more of a
vision or a spiritual thing.
1021
00:48:58,936 --> 00:49:00,420
- Well I think the Mothman is
some kind
1022
00:49:00,454 --> 00:49:02,111
of an inter-dimensional being
1023
00:49:02,146 --> 00:49:05,528
and I think it's very
odd that he is described
1024
00:49:05,563 --> 00:49:08,566
as being a flesh and blood
creature.
1025
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:12,052
Some people describe the wings
as looking like bat wings.
1026
00:49:12,087 --> 00:49:15,124
Some describe him as having
feathers.
1027
00:49:15,159 --> 00:49:16,884
He looked flesh and blood,
1028
00:49:16,919 --> 00:49:20,026
but yet his eyes looked
electrical.
1029
00:49:20,060 --> 00:49:23,684
I guess he could be from
either another planet
1030
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,791
or another dimension that
sort of slipped through.
1031
00:49:26,825 --> 00:49:29,828
- There really is no
explanation as far as I know.
1032
00:49:29,863 --> 00:49:34,385
I don't know if there's aparticular unconscious archetype
1033
00:49:34,419 --> 00:49:36,490
that's being accessed.
1034
00:49:36,525 --> 00:49:39,666
I have a general theory of the
paranormal,
1035
00:49:39,700 --> 00:49:42,013
which is if it does exist,
1036
00:49:42,048 --> 00:49:44,257
if there is an exterior force atwork,
1037
00:49:44,291 --> 00:49:46,776
that it might be presenting
itself
1038
00:49:46,811 --> 00:49:50,263
as almost just as a sort of
incoet energy,
1039
00:49:50,297 --> 00:49:52,575
almost like snow on a TV.
1040
00:49:52,610 --> 00:49:54,888
And as people experience it,
1041
00:49:54,922 --> 00:49:57,995
whatever that energy is that
they're interacting with,
1042
00:49:58,029 --> 00:49:59,375
interacts with their mind
1043
00:49:59,410 --> 00:50:03,655
and as human beings we try
to unscramble the signal.
1044
00:50:03,690 --> 00:50:05,416
It's like a Rorschach test.
1045
00:50:05,450 --> 00:50:07,487
Here's this thing, but what do
you see?
1046
00:50:07,521 --> 00:50:08,936
Some people will see Mothman,
1047
00:50:08,971 --> 00:50:11,974
other people will maybe
see a dead relative,
1048
00:50:12,009 --> 00:50:13,389
other people will see aliens.
1049
00:50:13,424 --> 00:50:16,530
It's just sort of your mind
flipping through things,
1050
00:50:16,565 --> 00:50:18,394
trying to attach to something.
1051
00:50:18,429 --> 00:50:21,535
Maybe that exterior energy
is interacting with your mind
1052
00:50:21,570 --> 00:50:24,504
and helping you select
something that works for you
1053
00:50:24,538 --> 00:50:26,540
and then you move on to
phase two of the experience,
1054
00:50:26,575 --> 00:50:29,716
which is whatever the content
of the communication is.
1055
00:50:31,097 --> 00:50:32,443
- As decades passed,
1056
00:50:32,477 --> 00:50:34,928
the effects of the initial
events still lingered
1057
00:50:34,962 --> 00:50:36,964
with some of the original
witnesses.
1058
00:50:36,999 --> 00:50:40,037
Marcella Bennett and Linda
Scarberry were among those
1059
00:50:40,071 --> 00:50:41,900
who saw the Mothman for
themselves
1060
00:50:41,935 --> 00:50:45,973
during the 1966-67 wave of
sightings.
1061
00:50:46,008 --> 00:50:48,631
As time went on, their
recollections of who
1062
00:50:48,666 --> 00:50:50,702
or what the Mothman might have
been
1063
00:50:50,737 --> 00:50:53,188
couldn't have been further
apart.
1064
00:50:53,222 --> 00:50:54,085
[foreboding music]
[wings flapping]
1065
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:55,949
Marcella Bennett encountered theMothman
1066
00:50:55,983 --> 00:50:58,745
outside the home of a
friend late one evening.
1067
00:50:58,779 --> 00:51:00,712
Her encounter took a turn for
the worst
1068
00:51:00,747 --> 00:51:02,266
when she dropped her infant
daughter
1069
00:51:02,300 --> 00:51:04,371
and fell on top of her in terror
1070
00:51:04,406 --> 00:51:07,719
as she claimed the Mothmanswooped toward them from above.
1071
00:51:07,754 --> 00:51:08,548
[baby cries]
1072
00:51:08,582 --> 00:51:09,721
Bennett, in later years,
1073
00:51:09,756 --> 00:51:12,103
would recall the creature
as looking every bit
1074
00:51:12,138 --> 00:51:14,174
like the devil himself.
1075
00:51:14,209 --> 00:51:17,004
Meanwhile, Linda Scarberry
would recount the being
1076
00:51:17,039 --> 00:51:20,077
in a way that painted it
in a sympathetic light,
1077
00:51:20,111 --> 00:51:23,459
as an entity lost in a
place it did not recognize
1078
00:51:23,494 --> 00:51:27,532
with no way to communicate
or relay a cry for help.
1079
00:51:27,567 --> 00:51:29,707
- After Linda Scarberry,
1080
00:51:29,741 --> 00:51:31,881
her initial sightings in '66,
1081
00:51:31,916 --> 00:51:36,231
you know for years after,
she told me and others that,
1082
00:51:36,265 --> 00:51:39,061
you know, weird things
happened in her house.
1083
00:51:39,096 --> 00:51:42,202
She always had this premonitionof somethin' watching her.
1084
00:51:42,237 --> 00:51:43,272
In later years,
1085
00:51:43,307 --> 00:51:46,033
she lived in the downtown
area in an apartment
1086
00:51:46,068 --> 00:51:48,553
above just a vacant building orwhatever.
1087
00:51:48,588 --> 00:51:49,968
- She said it was winter,
1088
00:51:50,003 --> 00:51:53,524
it was like really,
really cold, like January.
1089
00:51:53,558 --> 00:51:55,560
And she heard a thump
[object thumps]
1090
00:51:55,595 --> 00:51:57,044
and she had one of those roof
lines
1091
00:51:57,079 --> 00:52:00,082
like came right up to the
window, two story house.
1092
00:52:00,117 --> 00:52:02,326
And said she opened up
the window and she looked
1093
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:04,017
and it was sittin' there.
1094
00:52:04,051 --> 00:52:06,088
And it was cold and it was
shivering.
1095
00:52:06,123 --> 00:52:09,436
and it had taken its wings
and wrapped around itself.
1096
00:52:09,471 --> 00:52:12,405
[wind howling]
[somber music]
1097
00:52:12,439 --> 00:52:13,406
- A few years after that,
1098
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,718
I found the newspaper clipping
1099
00:52:15,753 --> 00:52:20,171
of a police officer in
Charleston, West Virginia,
1100
00:52:20,206 --> 00:52:23,588
who took a phone call from
someone
1101
00:52:23,623 --> 00:52:25,832
who was looking out their window
1102
00:52:25,866 --> 00:52:28,075
to the roof facade of their
house
1103
00:52:28,110 --> 00:52:30,423
and they described it the exactsame way.
1104
00:52:30,457 --> 00:52:33,564
And the police officer said,
you know, "What is it doing
1105
00:52:33,598 --> 00:52:34,392
and where's it at?"
1106
00:52:34,427 --> 00:52:35,669
And the person said,
1107
00:52:35,704 --> 00:52:38,879
"It's sitting on our roof, justright outside of our window
1108
00:52:38,914 --> 00:52:40,674
and I'm starin' at it."
1109
00:52:40,709 --> 00:52:43,643
[foreboding music]
1110
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:46,715
- You know, is it possible thatLinda,
1111
00:52:46,749 --> 00:52:48,682
I mean she had a traumatic
experience,
1112
00:52:48,717 --> 00:52:51,547
is it possible some of this wasimagined?
1113
00:52:51,582 --> 00:52:55,172
I've spoken to Linda
Scarberry, very credible lady,
1114
00:52:55,206 --> 00:52:57,139
and I don't think she made up
any of this.
1115
00:52:57,174 --> 00:52:58,589
Even I would have to wonder,
1116
00:52:58,623 --> 00:53:01,143
if I had that original
experience
1117
00:53:01,178 --> 00:53:04,215
and then saw it again
afterwards, am I really seeing
it
1118
00:53:04,250 --> 00:53:06,735
or is it something, a sort of
artifact
1119
00:53:06,769 --> 00:53:07,977
of what happened before?
1120
00:53:09,186 --> 00:53:11,222
- I think even up to when she
passed away,
1121
00:53:11,257 --> 00:53:13,776
she was always very wary
1122
00:53:15,295 --> 00:53:16,503
of things around her.
1123
00:53:16,538 --> 00:53:19,299
You know, she seemed like she
was always on the lookout.
1124
00:53:19,334 --> 00:53:22,026
[ominous music]
1125
00:53:26,617 --> 00:53:29,551
[mysterious music]
1126
00:53:33,934 --> 00:53:37,697
- I would say I was
probably 10, 11 at the time
1127
00:53:37,731 --> 00:53:39,837
and the holler that we lived in,
1128
00:53:39,871 --> 00:53:42,149
like the last street light was
probably,
1129
00:53:42,184 --> 00:53:44,807
I'd say 100 feet away
from where the house was
1130
00:53:44,842 --> 00:53:46,602
that I saw the Mothman.
1131
00:53:46,637 --> 00:53:47,603
[crickets chirping]
[foreboding music]
1132
00:53:47,638 --> 00:53:50,227
I knew to be home before
dark, but I wasn't.
1133
00:53:50,261 --> 00:53:53,264
So when I was pushin' my
bike up to the holler,
1134
00:53:53,299 --> 00:53:54,886
the asphalt ended, the gravel
started,
1135
00:53:54,921 --> 00:53:56,302
that's where that house was.
1136
00:53:56,336 --> 00:53:58,269
The house was abandoned.
1137
00:53:58,304 --> 00:54:00,409
The guy that lived there, he
got killed in the coal mines.
1138
00:54:01,410 --> 00:54:02,549
And I happened to hear a noise
1139
00:54:02,584 --> 00:54:03,826
and I just happened to look over
1140
00:54:03,861 --> 00:54:06,898
and I seen somethin' standing
doorway and it had red eyes.
1141
00:54:08,106 --> 00:54:08,900
[creature moans]
1142
00:54:08,935 --> 00:54:09,901
It was really tall.
1143
00:54:09,936 --> 00:54:11,696
I really remember the eyes,
1144
00:54:11,731 --> 00:54:14,112
like the reddest red you'd eversee.
1145
00:54:14,147 --> 00:54:15,942
He was at least seven foot tall.
1146
00:54:15,976 --> 00:54:18,082
[grasses rustling]
1147
00:54:18,116 --> 00:54:21,258
So I started cryin' and I
felt like I stood there cryin'
1148
00:54:21,292 --> 00:54:24,468
and lookin' at it for
like at least 15 minutes.
1149
00:54:24,502 --> 00:54:26,849
And here come my brother's
friend, actually,
1150
00:54:26,884 --> 00:54:29,127
out of the holler and he'd seenit, too.
1151
00:54:29,162 --> 00:54:31,716
He picked up a rock, threw it atit
1152
00:54:31,751 --> 00:54:34,271
[rock whooshes]
and it just kind of vanished.
1153
00:54:34,305 --> 00:54:36,963
[ominous music]
1154
00:54:37,895 --> 00:54:40,138
I would say probably, maybe a
year later,
1155
00:54:41,001 --> 00:54:43,349
that me and one of my
buddies went in that house
1156
00:54:44,384 --> 00:54:45,454
we went in the basement part
1157
00:54:45,489 --> 00:54:47,076
and there was these weird
footprints.
1158
00:54:47,111 --> 00:54:50,010
It looked like they was
burnt into the concrete.
1159
00:54:50,045 --> 00:54:52,634
The best I can describe
it, they was in a Y shape
1160
00:54:52,668 --> 00:54:56,879
and like, they had blackaround them, like they got hot.
1161
00:54:58,122 --> 00:54:58,985
[foreboding music]
1162
00:54:59,019 --> 00:55:00,676
Yeah, I've thought about it fora lot,
1163
00:55:02,299 --> 00:55:05,302
I never really did go out
into the bottom by myself,
1164
00:55:05,336 --> 00:55:07,787
I was always home before dark
after that.
1165
00:55:07,821 --> 00:55:09,133
I was scared of that house
1166
00:55:09,167 --> 00:55:11,515
and finally, when they tore
it down, I was pretty happy.
1167
00:55:11,549 --> 00:55:13,827
If somebody talks about the
Mothman,
1168
00:55:13,862 --> 00:55:15,726
I'll tell my story, you know?
1169
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:18,625
I always tell everybody,
"Hey, I've seen that thing."
1170
00:55:18,660 --> 00:55:21,594
[mysterious music]
1171
00:55:21,628 --> 00:55:26,150
- If the 1980s and '90s were
a down time regarding Mothman,
1172
00:55:26,184 --> 00:55:29,429
then the 2000s were to be the
creature's come-back tour.
1173
00:55:29,464 --> 00:55:31,914
In the year 2000, Jeff Wamsley
1174
00:55:31,949 --> 00:55:34,917
and fellow Mothman
enthusiast, Donnie Sergeant,
1175
00:55:34,952 --> 00:55:38,680
started a website dedicated to
tracking the Mothman legend,
1176
00:55:38,714 --> 00:55:40,923
called "Mothman Lives."
1177
00:55:40,958 --> 00:55:43,029
The website served to answer
questions
1178
00:55:43,063 --> 00:55:46,101
regarding the initial
wave of Mothman sightings
1179
00:55:46,135 --> 00:55:49,898
and was as much about promotingthe town and the TNT Area
1180
00:55:49,932 --> 00:55:51,451
as it was the creature.
1181
00:55:52,418 --> 00:55:54,799
However, the Mothman's
popularity
1182
00:55:54,834 --> 00:55:56,767
was just beginning to grow.
1183
00:55:56,801 --> 00:55:59,770
In 2002, a feature film
adaptation
1184
00:55:59,804 --> 00:56:02,013
of "The Mothman Prophecies"
would see
1185
00:56:02,048 --> 00:56:05,465
a successful theatrical
launch in North America.
1186
00:56:05,500 --> 00:56:08,710
While the movie would bolster
the title character's stardom,
1187
00:56:08,744 --> 00:56:11,678
it would also serve to
enhance ongoing reports
1188
00:56:11,713 --> 00:56:13,162
of its presence.
1189
00:56:13,197 --> 00:56:15,786
- When I read the book,
"The Mothman Prophecies,"
1190
00:56:15,820 --> 00:56:19,272
I immediately knew that it
was addressing something
1191
00:56:19,306 --> 00:56:22,551
that had been brewing inside
me for a while, which was,
1192
00:56:22,586 --> 00:56:24,450
is there a way to write a movie
1193
00:56:24,484 --> 00:56:27,038
in which someone
experiences the paranormal,
1194
00:56:27,073 --> 00:56:31,698
but does not come away
solving a mystery or a crime?
1195
00:56:31,733 --> 00:56:35,633
Where they are left as
destabilized, to a certain
degree,
1196
00:56:35,668 --> 00:56:37,566
as real people are
1197
00:56:37,601 --> 00:56:39,499
when they typically
experienced the paranormal.
1198
00:56:39,534 --> 00:56:42,260
The arc of John Keel's
experience
1199
00:56:42,295 --> 00:56:45,712
and his trying to make senseof the events in Point Pleasant
1200
00:56:45,747 --> 00:56:48,335
and ultimately not being able
to,
1201
00:56:48,370 --> 00:56:52,443
and then having to
simply take a step back,
1202
00:56:52,478 --> 00:56:55,032
accept that there are things
he's not ever going to be able
1203
00:56:55,066 --> 00:56:56,758
to totally understand,
1204
00:56:56,792 --> 00:56:58,415
and then go on with the rest ofhis life,
1205
00:56:58,449 --> 00:57:00,451
which is essentially what he
did.
1206
00:57:00,486 --> 00:57:03,350
- When Keel first found
out about the screenplay
1207
00:57:03,385 --> 00:57:06,457
for the film that was actually
made, he was actually giddy.
1208
00:57:06,492 --> 00:57:08,252
He had held off for a long time.
1209
00:57:09,771 --> 00:57:13,533
He felt that finally somebody
was kind of getting the,
1210
00:57:13,568 --> 00:57:15,742
sort of the underlying ideas orthemes
1211
00:57:15,777 --> 00:57:17,054
of "The Mothman Prophecies."
1212
00:57:17,088 --> 00:57:19,919
- I mean it was not a huge hit
when it came out by any means
1213
00:57:19,953 --> 00:57:22,715
and yet I do hear from
people who have seen it
1214
00:57:22,749 --> 00:57:25,269
and the ones who saw it
1215
00:57:25,303 --> 00:57:26,132
and
1216
00:57:26,995 --> 00:57:27,858
"liked it,"
1217
00:57:27,892 --> 00:57:29,135
They had a reaction to it.
1218
00:57:29,169 --> 00:57:32,587
The reaction, the one
I hear most often is,
1219
00:57:32,621 --> 00:57:37,626
"That was so scary and
I don't even know why."
1220
00:57:38,178 --> 00:57:40,802
- Following the release of
"The Mothman Prophecies,"
1221
00:57:40,836 --> 00:57:42,769
Point Pleasant found itself at
the center
1222
00:57:42,804 --> 00:57:45,496
of a second wave of Mothman
sightings.
1223
00:57:45,531 --> 00:57:46,601
As new encounters
1224
00:57:46,635 --> 00:57:49,500
with Appalachia's infamous
legend came to light,
1225
00:57:49,535 --> 00:57:52,503
Jeff Wamsley set aboutdocumenting as much information
1226
00:57:52,538 --> 00:57:56,921
about the 1966 and '67
sightings as possible.
1227
00:57:56,956 --> 00:58:00,200
He interviewed witnesses and
unraveled long-buried accounts
1228
00:58:00,235 --> 00:58:03,583
for publication in two books
he would eventually publish,
1229
00:58:03,618 --> 00:58:06,517
"Mothman, The Facts Behind the
Legend,"
1230
00:58:06,552 --> 00:58:09,037
and "Behind the Red Eyes."
1231
00:58:09,071 --> 00:58:12,799
He also compiled physical
artifacts relating to the
Mothman
1232
00:58:12,834 --> 00:58:16,009
and in 2005, he opened his
collection to the public
1233
00:58:16,044 --> 00:58:19,288
inside the walls of what
would auspiciously become
1234
00:58:19,323 --> 00:58:22,533
the world's only Mothman Museum.
1235
00:58:22,568 --> 00:58:23,465
[haunting music]
1236
00:58:23,500 --> 00:58:25,709
Meanwhile, the TNT Area itself
1237
00:58:25,743 --> 00:58:28,263
became a hub of activity once
again,
1238
00:58:28,297 --> 00:58:29,471
whether through chance
1239
00:58:29,506 --> 00:58:31,680
or due to the new found
attention brought on
1240
00:58:31,715 --> 00:58:33,061
by the release of the film.
1241
00:58:34,234 --> 00:58:36,789
In 2001, a paramedic driving
1242
00:58:36,823 --> 00:58:38,860
along the Kanawha River near
Leon
1243
00:58:38,894 --> 00:58:40,827
sighted a large winged creature
1244
00:58:40,862 --> 00:58:42,657
following the path of the water.
1245
00:58:43,589 --> 00:58:44,762
[wind whistling]
[mysterious music]
1246
00:58:44,797 --> 00:58:48,041
Four years later, a structural
engineer saw a creature
1247
00:58:48,076 --> 00:58:50,354
he described as having no arms,
1248
00:58:50,388 --> 00:58:52,805
but wings that bent and folded
inward
1249
00:58:52,839 --> 00:58:55,842
with a gray skin stretched overthe bone.
1250
00:58:55,877 --> 00:58:57,326
He claimed the creature
attempted
1251
00:58:57,361 --> 00:58:59,466
to communicate telepathically
with him
1252
00:58:59,501 --> 00:59:03,091
before taking to the sky at
a speed he estimated to be
1253
00:59:03,125 --> 00:59:05,300
over 50 miles per hour.
1254
00:59:06,715 --> 00:59:08,786
Hunter Bellamy, a Point Pleasantlocal,
1255
00:59:08,821 --> 00:59:10,995
recalled seeing red eyes in a
tree
1256
00:59:11,030 --> 00:59:13,584
as he drove within the TNT Area.
1257
00:59:13,619 --> 00:59:16,276
Eventually, a shadowy being
could be seen
1258
00:59:16,311 --> 00:59:18,555
as it took to the skies.
1259
00:59:18,589 --> 00:59:20,384
Two reports from hunters came in
1260
00:59:20,418 --> 00:59:24,181
during the years of 2009 and
2013.
1261
00:59:24,215 --> 00:59:27,805
They both claimed to have seen
a creature in the TNT Area.
1262
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:30,428
In one case, it was
spotted directly behind
1263
00:59:30,463 --> 00:59:32,672
one of the abandoned munitions
bunkers.
1264
00:59:33,570 --> 00:59:35,433
As the 2000s ticked by,
1265
00:59:35,468 --> 00:59:38,195
a new element was added
to the Mothman lore,
1266
00:59:38,229 --> 00:59:41,819
one that was as rooted in
the original 1960 sightings
1267
00:59:41,854 --> 00:59:44,546
as it was in the current
activity.
1268
00:59:44,581 --> 00:59:46,479
A piece of the legend that had
been added
1269
00:59:46,513 --> 00:59:49,344
by none other than John Keel.
1270
00:59:49,378 --> 00:59:51,795
[somber music]
[clock chimes]
1271
00:59:51,829 --> 00:59:53,831
[air whooshes]
1272
00:59:53,866 --> 00:59:55,902
[clock chimes]
1273
00:59:55,937 --> 00:59:58,491
- There's the idea that
Mothman was a harbinger
1274
00:59:58,525 --> 01:00:01,011
and that it culminated
1275
01:00:01,045 --> 01:00:04,428
with the collapse of the SilverBridge in December of '67.
1276
01:00:04,462 --> 01:00:07,673
- Over the years, you
know, the Mothman sightings
1277
01:00:07,707 --> 01:00:10,641
and the Mothman activity has
brought up the subject of,
1278
01:00:10,676 --> 01:00:12,332
was it a harbinger of doom?
1279
01:00:12,367 --> 01:00:15,957
Was it here to warn people of
the Silver Bridge collapse?
1280
01:00:15,991 --> 01:00:17,752
Honestly, a lot of the people,
you know,
1281
01:00:17,786 --> 01:00:19,201
when the bridge fell,
1282
01:00:19,236 --> 01:00:21,445
nobody really talked
about that a whole lot.
1283
01:00:21,479 --> 01:00:23,723
They were shocked the
bridge had collapsed,
1284
01:00:23,758 --> 01:00:26,484
but then, you know, the
movies were comin' out,
1285
01:00:26,519 --> 01:00:28,038
John Keel's book
1286
01:00:28,072 --> 01:00:30,385
and different little things
were poppin' up sayin',
1287
01:00:30,419 --> 01:00:32,905
hey, you know, every time
somethin' bad happens,
1288
01:00:32,939 --> 01:00:34,941
you know, there's a
sighting of this creature.
1289
01:00:34,976 --> 01:00:37,806
- The idea that it was a
harbinger of doom
1290
01:00:37,841 --> 01:00:39,912
was sort of baked into the book.
1291
01:00:39,946 --> 01:00:44,502
And then as I was
adapting it for the movie,
1292
01:00:44,537 --> 01:00:47,402
that also seemed a link I wantedto make,
1293
01:00:47,436 --> 01:00:49,507
that there was, you know,
I mean, obviously that
1294
01:00:49,542 --> 01:00:52,372
that sort of gives the story
the propulsion that it had,
1295
01:00:52,407 --> 01:00:55,893
the feeling that all of thisstuff was leading to something.
1296
01:00:55,928 --> 01:01:00,760
- Because of circumstantial
events that happened,
1297
01:01:00,795 --> 01:01:04,453
Mothman has been kind of labeledas this harbinger of doom.
1298
01:01:04,488 --> 01:01:07,284
You know, he's been allegedly
sighted
1299
01:01:07,318 --> 01:01:11,322
before Chernobyl happened
and I've heard 9/11,
1300
01:01:11,357 --> 01:01:12,461
[creature moans]
[static hisses]
1301
01:01:12,496 --> 01:01:14,360
you know, and of course
that here in Point Pleasant
1302
01:01:14,394 --> 01:01:15,844
before the bridge collapsed.
1303
01:01:15,879 --> 01:01:17,674
- I've talked to some of
the original witnesses
1304
01:01:17,708 --> 01:01:20,677
and some of them firmly
believe that that's true.
1305
01:01:20,711 --> 01:01:24,784
Some people believe that
it created the disaster.
1306
01:01:24,819 --> 01:01:27,097
Others say, no, it just
coincided with it.
1307
01:01:27,131 --> 01:01:29,478
- The notion that the Mothman isseen
1308
01:01:29,513 --> 01:01:33,068
at the site of later
disasters is something
1309
01:01:33,103 --> 01:01:34,863
that I'm pretty sure I made up.
1310
01:01:34,898 --> 01:01:38,315
But again, because it was
part of the original story,
1311
01:01:38,349 --> 01:01:41,007
it felt like let's
extrapolate this outward.
1312
01:01:41,042 --> 01:01:43,113
I almost get the feeling
that once it was suggested
1313
01:01:43,147 --> 01:01:46,703
in the movie that people had
seen the Mothman at Chernobyl,
1314
01:01:46,737 --> 01:01:50,361
I think it became sort
of part of urban legend
1315
01:01:50,396 --> 01:01:51,811
because then I began to hear
1316
01:01:51,846 --> 01:01:54,745
that story being reported
back to me from other sources.
1317
01:01:54,780 --> 01:01:56,126
- People will compare it to,
1318
01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:59,854
obviously the banshee wailing
before someone's about to die
1319
01:01:59,888 --> 01:02:02,235
and there are several
traditions like that.
1320
01:02:02,270 --> 01:02:05,480
- The banshees are part of Irishfolklore.
1321
01:02:05,514 --> 01:02:08,759
They're women that
appear and scream, weep,
1322
01:02:08,794 --> 01:02:10,002
whenever someone,
1323
01:02:10,036 --> 01:02:14,040
that is part of the familyline that they're connected to,
1324
01:02:14,075 --> 01:02:15,801
is doomed to die.
1325
01:02:15,835 --> 01:02:18,389
It's kind of not the thing
that you want to hear.
1326
01:02:18,424 --> 01:02:22,117
- A banshee is an
Irish-Scottish death fairy.
1327
01:02:22,152 --> 01:02:24,913
And even though she
does not cause a death,
1328
01:02:24,948 --> 01:02:26,777
she will announce the death
1329
01:02:26,812 --> 01:02:29,918
with her high-pitched wailing
cries.
1330
01:02:29,953 --> 01:02:32,162
And we've got a banshee
in the Parkersburg area
1331
01:02:32,196 --> 01:02:34,095
called the Banshee of Marrtown
1332
01:02:34,129 --> 01:02:36,269
and I consider that folklore ofcourse.
1333
01:02:36,304 --> 01:02:39,548
Something happened, it's
been added onto over time,
1334
01:02:39,583 --> 01:02:41,723
but it's interesting that
she does have red eyes
1335
01:02:41,758 --> 01:02:44,277
and she is a harbinger of doom,
1336
01:02:44,312 --> 01:02:46,210
they say much like the Mothman.
1337
01:02:46,245 --> 01:02:48,626
[wind howls]
1338
01:02:48,661 --> 01:02:50,939
- The key to the Mothman's
origins may be found
1339
01:02:50,974 --> 01:02:54,011
in the Native American or
Scotch-Irish oral traditions
1340
01:02:54,046 --> 01:02:56,186
of those that first inhabited
Appalachia.
1341
01:02:57,359 --> 01:02:59,810
Stories of banshees, enormous
owls,
1342
01:02:59,845 --> 01:03:03,055
and even the Garuda all
have ancient origins.
1343
01:03:03,089 --> 01:03:05,402
Passed from generation to
generation,
1344
01:03:05,436 --> 01:03:09,371
these tales bear a startling
similarity to one another.
1345
01:03:09,406 --> 01:03:11,304
Their central character arrives,
1346
01:03:11,339 --> 01:03:14,791
carried on the wind by its
wings to offer a warning,
1347
01:03:14,825 --> 01:03:18,415
a warning of death,
destruction and tragedy.
1348
01:03:18,449 --> 01:03:21,694
Behind the red eyes of a new
figure, like the Mothman,
1349
01:03:21,728 --> 01:03:24,248
might lie an ancient secret,
1350
01:03:24,283 --> 01:03:27,113
one which can still be found
today,
1351
01:03:27,148 --> 01:03:31,359
though seeking it might be the
last thing we should attempt.
1352
01:03:31,393 --> 01:03:34,120
[haunting music]
1353
01:03:37,503 --> 01:03:39,574
- Well, five years ago,
1354
01:03:39,608 --> 01:03:43,681
my dad was diagnosed with heart
disease
1355
01:03:43,716 --> 01:03:44,855
and was goin' through heart
failure.
1356
01:03:44,890 --> 01:03:48,652
Then finally, the doctors got
him stable.
1357
01:03:48,686 --> 01:03:52,242
It went on and then this year,
Father's Day of this year,
1358
01:03:52,276 --> 01:03:54,071
we all went to the mountains.
1359
01:03:54,106 --> 01:03:55,866
The following weekend, he callsme
1360
01:03:55,901 --> 01:04:00,319
and said, "Hey, I've fallin'
and I can't get back up."
1361
01:04:00,353 --> 01:04:05,013
So I go to his house and he
was unable to feel his legs.
1362
01:04:05,048 --> 01:04:07,464
He spent some time in the
hospital.
1363
01:04:07,498 --> 01:04:09,121
He didn't want nothin' else
to do with the hospital,
1364
01:04:09,155 --> 01:04:10,501
so we brought him home.
1365
01:04:11,571 --> 01:04:13,573
We had to have two people
with him at all times.
1366
01:04:13,608 --> 01:04:17,267
I was there most days and
I was actually sleeping
1367
01:04:17,301 --> 01:04:19,510
on the dining room
floor on an air mattress
1368
01:04:19,545 --> 01:04:20,891
and my brother was sleeping
1369
01:04:23,652 --> 01:04:26,000
on the couch beside the hospitalbed.
1370
01:04:26,034 --> 01:04:28,692
As a laid on the mattress, I'd
dozed off,
1371
01:04:28,726 --> 01:04:31,971
I immediately started
feeling like I was dreaming.
1372
01:04:32,006 --> 01:04:37,011
[wings whapping]
[ethereal music]
1373
01:04:38,426 --> 01:04:42,292
I had a dream that my son
was standin' beside my bed.
1374
01:04:42,326 --> 01:04:43,120
- Daddy.
1375
01:04:43,155 --> 01:04:44,259
- There beside the bed
1376
01:04:44,294 --> 01:04:47,124
and I remember in the
dream asking him, you know,
1377
01:04:47,159 --> 01:04:49,713
why he was there, who brought
him there
1378
01:04:49,747 --> 01:04:50,887
and how'd he get there.
1379
01:04:51,818 --> 01:04:54,062
And I guess I had enough
consciousness to know
1380
01:04:54,097 --> 01:04:55,995
he shouldn't be there.
1381
01:04:56,030 --> 01:04:57,238
So I immediately woke up
1382
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:01,242
and when I did there was this,
1383
01:05:02,208 --> 01:05:05,694
the figure standing beside
the bed had long arms,
1384
01:05:05,729 --> 01:05:07,489
skinny, like fingers, skinny
arms,
1385
01:05:08,594 --> 01:05:12,149
skinny legs with kind
of bulky lookin' feet,
1386
01:05:13,116 --> 01:05:16,567
wings above his shoulders and
its face,
1387
01:05:16,602 --> 01:05:21,607
I could see like dark largecircles where its eyes would be.
1388
01:05:22,504 --> 01:05:25,093
I stared at it for
probably five seconds or so
1389
01:05:25,128 --> 01:05:25,956
and then it just,
1390
01:05:27,889 --> 01:05:29,511
I don't want to say walk
'cause it didn't walk,
1391
01:05:29,546 --> 01:05:33,343
it glided quickly across
the top of my feet
1392
01:05:33,377 --> 01:05:34,482
and into another room.
1393
01:05:35,517 --> 01:05:36,760
[mysterious music]
[object rustling]
1394
01:05:36,794 --> 01:05:38,589
I laid there for a second,
1395
01:05:38,624 --> 01:05:41,247
tryin' to figure out what I wasseein'.
1396
01:05:41,282 --> 01:05:43,111
I got up later that morning,
1397
01:05:46,252 --> 01:05:47,391
Dad was doin' pretty good.
1398
01:05:47,426 --> 01:05:49,462
Sat there with him with my
brother.
1399
01:05:49,497 --> 01:05:52,741
We got up early on the 14th,
1400
01:05:52,776 --> 01:05:54,364
or about nine o'clock on the
14th,
1401
01:05:54,398 --> 01:05:56,504
hospice called and said they
were comin'.
1402
01:05:56,538 --> 01:05:58,299
I said, "Okay, he's not doin' sowell.
1403
01:05:58,333 --> 01:05:59,645
I'll see you in a little bit."
1404
01:05:59,679 --> 01:06:01,716
As soon as I hung up the phone,
1405
01:06:01,750 --> 01:06:04,339
I noticed him gaspin' for air.
1406
01:06:04,374 --> 01:06:07,515
I went in, helped him lay down
on his bed,
1407
01:06:07,549 --> 01:06:09,206
held his hand and he passed
away.
1408
01:06:10,276 --> 01:06:13,072
So
[somber music]
1409
01:06:13,107 --> 01:06:14,660
that's when I, you know,
1410
01:06:14,694 --> 01:06:18,112
we called everybody and
my brothers come over.
1411
01:06:18,146 --> 01:06:19,423
I would draw all this,
1412
01:06:19,458 --> 01:06:22,495
I kept drawin' this figure thatI'd seen.
1413
01:06:22,530 --> 01:06:23,876
I couldn't figure out
what it was, you know,
1414
01:06:23,910 --> 01:06:25,015
or I was tryin' to figure out itwas
1415
01:06:25,050 --> 01:06:26,637
and drawin' it was kind of
helping me
1416
01:06:26,672 --> 01:06:28,846
trying to figure it out, I
guess.
1417
01:06:28,881 --> 01:06:31,194
We're sitting at the
table, my brothers and I,
1418
01:06:31,228 --> 01:06:34,576
and I explained to 'em what I
saw
1419
01:06:34,611 --> 01:06:36,406
and my middle brother looks at
me
1420
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:39,547
and goes, "Do you remember whatdad told us five years ago?
1421
01:06:39,581 --> 01:06:40,997
You know when he was going
through heart failure
1422
01:06:41,031 --> 01:06:41,859
the first time?"
1423
01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:45,484
[pencil scratching]
1424
01:06:45,518 --> 01:06:48,832
And it was a dark figure
stood in a corner.
1425
01:06:48,866 --> 01:06:52,732
[thunder rumbling]
[foreboding music]
1426
01:06:52,767 --> 01:06:55,459
- The Mothman and other
strange winged creatures
1427
01:06:55,494 --> 01:06:58,566
are still seen around Appalachiatoday.
1428
01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:01,189
Jeff Wamsley's Mothman Museum
continues
1429
01:07:01,224 --> 01:07:03,985
to document the original
rash of sightings,
1430
01:07:04,020 --> 01:07:06,953
as well as the more modern day
accounts.
1431
01:07:06,988 --> 01:07:09,853
John Keel passed away in 2009,
1432
01:07:09,887 --> 01:07:11,924
but not before he finally made areturn
1433
01:07:11,958 --> 01:07:13,615
to the town of Point Pleasant,
1434
01:07:13,650 --> 01:07:15,583
where he was able to see what
had become
1435
01:07:15,617 --> 01:07:18,517
of one of the more prominent
pieces of his legacy.
1436
01:07:18,551 --> 01:07:20,312
- I think John Keel was very
pleased
1437
01:07:20,346 --> 01:07:21,520
with what Jeff had done.
1438
01:07:21,554 --> 01:07:25,420
He had seen the original
incarnation of the museum.
1439
01:07:25,455 --> 01:07:28,251
It's there because of him,
because of his efforts.
1440
01:07:28,285 --> 01:07:31,944
Something he did years ago is
finally coming to fruition.
1441
01:07:31,978 --> 01:07:34,153
So I think that he was very
pleased.
1442
01:07:34,188 --> 01:07:36,880
He warned the people of
Point Pleasant early on
1443
01:07:36,914 --> 01:07:40,125
about this idea that this
is folklore in the making
1444
01:07:40,159 --> 01:07:42,920
and this little town may
not be prepared for it.
1445
01:07:42,955 --> 01:07:45,923
And he gave the warning
again when the film came out,
1446
01:07:45,958 --> 01:07:49,030
to just a small town of
just several thousand,
1447
01:07:49,065 --> 01:07:53,172
and the film may be bringing
a lot more people in droves
1448
01:07:53,207 --> 01:07:54,277
than they're used to.
1449
01:07:55,968 --> 01:07:56,796
[water rushing]
1450
01:07:56,831 --> 01:07:59,937
- It is a very personal movie tome,
1451
01:07:59,972 --> 01:08:01,215
but what's odd about it
1452
01:08:01,249 --> 01:08:05,736
is that I have never experiencedanything.
1453
01:08:05,771 --> 01:08:07,945
I've never seen a UFO,
I've never seen a ghost,
1454
01:08:07,980 --> 01:08:10,500
I've never had a weird phone
call, I mean, none of it.
1455
01:08:10,534 --> 01:08:12,191
When I talk about the
supernatural,
1456
01:08:12,226 --> 01:08:15,401
I say, "You've got the
Mozarts and the Salieris.
1457
01:08:15,436 --> 01:08:17,576
You know, the guys who
actually experience it
1458
01:08:17,610 --> 01:08:20,406
and the guys that wish
they could, but haven't
1459
01:08:20,441 --> 01:08:22,132
and can only stare at those
1460
01:08:22,167 --> 01:08:25,031
who have seen behind the veil ofreality
1461
01:08:25,066 --> 01:08:26,757
and look upon them with envy."
1462
01:08:26,792 --> 01:08:28,863
And I used to look upon them
with envy and I used to think,
1463
01:08:28,897 --> 01:08:31,486
"Wow, as soon as have a
few bucks in my pocket,
1464
01:08:31,521 --> 01:08:34,696
I'm gonna give it all,
you know, get out of LA,
1465
01:08:34,731 --> 01:08:37,906
go investigate the hauntedhouses and the haunted places,"
1466
01:08:37,941 --> 01:08:40,944
and now I don't feel
that way anymore at all.
1467
01:08:40,978 --> 01:08:44,913
I say, let the Mozart's
deal with their experiences,
1468
01:08:44,948 --> 01:08:47,157
I'm happy to be a Salieri.
1469
01:08:47,192 --> 01:08:50,056
- Like Keel, Jeff Wamsley's
research continues
1470
01:08:50,091 --> 01:08:53,059
to keep Point Pleasant on
the international stage.
1471
01:08:53,094 --> 01:08:56,132
Thousands attend the
Mothman Festival each year,
1472
01:08:56,166 --> 01:08:58,444
making it one of the
two best attended events
1473
01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:00,688
in the state of West Virginia.
1474
01:09:00,722 --> 01:09:02,276
The museum, meanwhile,
1475
01:09:02,310 --> 01:09:05,348
continues to grow,
attracting scores of people
1476
01:09:05,382 --> 01:09:08,213
to a town they might
never have even heard of
1477
01:09:08,247 --> 01:09:10,007
were it not for the Mothman.
1478
01:09:10,905 --> 01:09:13,597
The museum acts as a sort of
living story,
1479
01:09:13,632 --> 01:09:16,428
part of a tradition of
storytelling come to life
1480
01:09:16,462 --> 01:09:19,776
that is rooted in the cultural
heritage of the region.
1481
01:09:19,810 --> 01:09:23,228
A tradition that stretches
back far beyond North America
1482
01:09:23,262 --> 01:09:25,333
and helps to highlight today,
1483
01:09:25,368 --> 01:09:29,372
this lone page among the
centuries of Appalachian
history.
1484
01:09:29,406 --> 01:09:31,822
- What Jeff did was he went back
1485
01:09:31,857 --> 01:09:34,239
and he interviewed some
of the original witnesses.
1486
01:09:34,273 --> 01:09:36,793
And the thing is that it had
been, at that point in time,
1487
01:09:36,827 --> 01:09:39,968
it had been 35, 40 years after
the events
1488
01:09:40,003 --> 01:09:41,522
and he corrected some of the
things
1489
01:09:41,556 --> 01:09:44,939
that were not quite right
in "The Mothman Prophecies."
1490
01:09:44,973 --> 01:09:47,286
That was so, so valuable.
1491
01:09:47,321 --> 01:09:49,564
[bright hopeful music]
1492
01:09:49,599 --> 01:09:52,326
- Dad's legacy, [sighs]
1493
01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:55,743
I just, I would say it's gotta
be Mothman.
1494
01:09:55,777 --> 01:09:57,952
I mean, it is bigger than that
though.
1495
01:09:57,986 --> 01:10:00,610
Whether locals or whatever
want to admit it or not,
1496
01:10:00,644 --> 01:10:04,407
Mothman has really reversed
a lot of the negative stuff
1497
01:10:04,441 --> 01:10:05,339
of Point Pleasant.
1498
01:10:05,373 --> 01:10:07,617
What I mean is lack of business,
1499
01:10:07,651 --> 01:10:09,929
lack of interest, lack of
opportunity.
1500
01:10:11,276 --> 01:10:15,245
It's kind of just blossomed overtime.
1501
01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:17,143
That in itself is major.
1502
01:10:20,146 --> 01:10:24,220
- I'm a grandfather now,
so I think, you know,
1503
01:10:24,254 --> 01:10:26,705
if I left a legacy, it would be,
1504
01:10:26,739 --> 01:10:30,156
be motivated, go out
and chase your dreams.
1505
01:10:30,191 --> 01:10:32,124
I mean, you know, I've
done that all my life
1506
01:10:32,158 --> 01:10:34,920
and some have come true
and some you know have not.
1507
01:10:34,954 --> 01:10:37,992
But you know, be creative
and be nice to other people.
1508
01:10:38,026 --> 01:10:39,856
That's probably the
bottom line is, you know,
1509
01:10:39,890 --> 01:10:41,409
be nice to other people.
1510
01:10:41,444 --> 01:10:43,342
I learned that from my parents
though.
1511
01:10:44,999 --> 01:10:47,001
Well, my daughter, Ashley, you
know,
1512
01:10:47,035 --> 01:10:50,004
from a young age was brought
up a lot differently probably
1513
01:10:50,038 --> 01:10:51,177
than most kids.
1514
01:10:51,212 --> 01:10:52,455
I always tell her, I'll say, youknow,
1515
01:10:52,489 --> 01:10:55,527
"I'm retirin' here in a
year, you can have all this
1516
01:10:55,561 --> 01:10:57,598
and take care of all the museum
1517
01:10:57,632 --> 01:11:00,048
and the festival and all that,"you know.
1518
01:11:01,049 --> 01:11:04,329
[light uplifting music]
1519
01:11:06,434 --> 01:11:10,956
- It's very important to hold
onto these old tales, legends.
1520
01:11:10,990 --> 01:11:15,788
I think Mothman has kinda movedinto the area of folklore,
1521
01:11:15,823 --> 01:11:19,205
where people are continuing
to add to the story.
1522
01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:23,279
The folktales tell us who we
are.
1523
01:11:23,313 --> 01:11:26,074
It helps us remember who we are.
1524
01:11:26,109 --> 01:11:28,939
It helps us remember those
Celtic roots,
1525
01:11:28,974 --> 01:11:33,979
those Native American roots,
so we know who we are.
1526
01:11:34,013 --> 01:11:36,844
And really, that's an importantthing for every person
1527
01:11:36,878 --> 01:11:40,744
is to know who you are, to
know what your talents are.
1528
01:11:40,779 --> 01:11:41,987
That's very important
1529
01:11:42,021 --> 01:11:45,887
and I think it's a good reason
to remember these stories.
1530
01:11:45,922 --> 01:11:47,751
[crickets chirping]
1531
01:11:47,786 --> 01:11:52,756
[water splashes]
[dark foreboding music]
1532
01:11:54,517 --> 01:11:56,519
- Fear is a funny thing.
1533
01:11:56,553 --> 01:11:59,694
In the end, it's part of our
life.
1534
01:11:59,729 --> 01:12:02,697
You can't outrun it or hide fromit.
1535
01:12:02,732 --> 01:12:07,012
All we can do is name it,
embrace it and learn from it.
1536
01:12:08,185 --> 01:12:11,016
Maybe the true power of an
event isn't fully realized
1537
01:12:11,050 --> 01:12:12,845
until it's retold.
1538
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:15,917
Until we can put into
words our own experiences
1539
01:12:15,952 --> 01:12:17,333
and share them with others.
1540
01:12:18,299 --> 01:12:22,579
What we share might be laughteror tears, joy or sorrow.
1541
01:12:23,615 --> 01:12:25,271
Occasionally though,
1542
01:12:25,306 --> 01:12:30,173
it's something more,
something primal and ageless.
1543
01:12:30,207 --> 01:12:33,625
[suspenseful music]
1544
01:12:33,659 --> 01:12:37,939
Sometimes what we share is
nothing more than our fear,
1545
01:12:39,009 --> 01:12:42,323
but at least for a moment, we
are together
1546
01:12:43,738 --> 01:12:45,084
in the dark.
1547
01:12:45,119 --> 01:12:47,777
[ominous music]
1548
01:12:50,366 --> 01:12:53,196
[thunder crashes]
1549
01:13:01,377 --> 01:13:04,518
[soft haunting music]
1550
01:13:52,911 --> 01:13:55,983
[gentle flute music]
1551
01:14:01,298 --> 01:14:04,440
[somber violin music]
1552
01:14:18,384 --> 01:14:21,491
[soft haunting music]
1553
01:14:35,091 --> 01:14:38,508
[light foreboding music]
1554
01:15:14,924 --> 01:15:18,203
[bright hopeful music]
1555
01:15:43,124 --> 01:15:45,713
[somber music]
1556
01:15:55,481 --> 01:15:58,864
[light foreboding music]
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