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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,100 --> 00:00:04,116 CROWD SCREAMS 2 00:00:04,141 --> 00:00:05,246 Queen of Pop... 3 00:00:05,271 --> 00:00:06,766 She brought her liveliness, 4 00:00:06,791 --> 00:00:08,766 she brought her identity, 5 00:00:08,791 --> 00:00:10,325 she brought energy, 6 00:00:10,350 --> 00:00:12,275 she brought her style. 7 00:00:12,300 --> 00:00:14,436 ...mistress of reinvention... 8 00:00:14,461 --> 00:00:15,886 She just loves to shock. 9 00:00:15,911 --> 00:00:17,476 She lives to shock. 10 00:00:17,501 --> 00:00:20,476 ...with over 300 million record sales, 11 00:00:20,501 --> 00:00:23,966 Madonna's been at the top of her game for over four decades. 12 00:00:23,991 --> 00:00:25,525 But how did she get there? 13 00:00:25,550 --> 00:00:26,836 And what were the secrets 14 00:00:26,861 --> 00:00:29,246 behind the songs that made her a superstar? 15 00:00:29,271 --> 00:00:30,916 # Holiday... # 16 00:00:30,941 --> 00:00:32,325 From the innocent... 17 00:00:32,350 --> 00:00:34,686 Holiday is a fun, frothy pop song. 18 00:00:34,711 --> 00:00:38,325 It's light as air and you just can't resist how wonderful it is. 19 00:00:38,350 --> 00:00:40,166 ...to the provocative... 20 00:00:40,191 --> 00:00:42,166 # Like a virgin... # 21 00:00:42,191 --> 00:00:43,886 Like a virgin, like a what? 22 00:00:43,911 --> 00:00:45,405 Excuse me, lady? 23 00:00:45,430 --> 00:00:48,275 ...to the track that defined an entire era. 24 00:00:48,300 --> 00:00:49,836 If there was ever a song 25 00:00:49,861 --> 00:00:52,606 that captured an attitude of the time... 26 00:00:53,911 --> 00:00:55,275 ...that was a moment. 27 00:00:55,300 --> 00:00:59,116 # Cos we are living in a material world... # 28 00:00:59,141 --> 00:01:02,116 We speak to those who helped propel her to success, 29 00:01:02,141 --> 00:01:03,556 from the musicians... 30 00:01:03,581 --> 00:01:05,916 We decided that maybe there's something 31 00:01:05,941 --> 00:01:08,556 between this song and this artist - 32 00:01:08,581 --> 00:01:09,996 might be something magical. 33 00:01:10,021 --> 00:01:13,195 ROBOTIC: Liv...ing in a material world. 34 00:01:13,220 --> 00:01:15,525 ...and those who sang on her big hits... 35 00:01:15,550 --> 00:01:17,806 We finished Material Girl, and it was just like, 36 00:01:17,831 --> 00:01:19,195 "Oh, God, this is ridiculous!" 37 00:01:19,220 --> 00:01:21,116 People are gonna love this! 38 00:01:21,141 --> 00:01:22,325 ...to the writers. 39 00:01:22,350 --> 00:01:25,116 We did get the response that 40 00:01:25,141 --> 00:01:28,195 no-one would ever sing a song titled 41 00:01:28,220 --> 00:01:29,476 Like A Virgin. 42 00:01:29,501 --> 00:01:32,405 But fortunately, it was perfect for one... 43 00:01:33,430 --> 00:01:36,405 ...singer, and her name was Madonna. 44 00:01:36,430 --> 00:01:39,436 # Like a virgin... # 45 00:01:39,461 --> 00:01:41,275 We reveal the ruthless ambition 46 00:01:41,300 --> 00:01:43,606 that took a struggling clubland hopeful... 47 00:01:43,631 --> 00:01:45,756 What are your dreams? What's left? 48 00:01:45,781 --> 00:01:46,996 To rule the world. 49 00:01:47,021 --> 00:01:49,716 ...to the pinnacle of global stardom. 50 00:01:49,741 --> 00:01:52,806 This is Madonna and the story of the three songs 51 00:01:52,831 --> 00:01:54,476 that defined her career. 52 00:02:01,501 --> 00:02:03,476 Madonna Louise Ciccone, 53 00:02:03,501 --> 00:02:05,686 a dance school dropout from Michigan 54 00:02:05,711 --> 00:02:07,525 who went on to conquer the world 55 00:02:07,550 --> 00:02:11,046 and enjoy a 40-year career of unparalleled success. 56 00:02:11,071 --> 00:02:12,916 It's... 57 00:02:12,941 --> 00:02:15,356 ...just bigger than anything I could ever imagine. 58 00:02:16,991 --> 00:02:18,916 From New York street chic 59 00:02:18,941 --> 00:02:20,436 to blonde ambition. 60 00:02:20,461 --> 00:02:22,046 From leather-clad Dita 61 00:02:22,071 --> 00:02:23,716 to Ray Of Light Earth mother, 62 00:02:23,741 --> 00:02:24,996 to Evita. 63 00:02:25,021 --> 00:02:26,716 Over and over again, 64 00:02:26,741 --> 00:02:29,195 Madonna reinvented her music and look 65 00:02:29,220 --> 00:02:31,996 to become the ultimate pop star survivor. 66 00:02:32,021 --> 00:02:34,476 Was it 16 consecutive top five hits? 67 00:02:34,501 --> 00:02:36,806 Oh, I don't know. Something like that. 68 00:02:36,831 --> 00:02:40,356 Madonna has one of the most ground-breaking careers in pop music. 69 00:02:40,381 --> 00:02:42,166 The first female pop star 70 00:02:42,191 --> 00:02:44,966 to have complete control over her career. 71 00:02:44,991 --> 00:02:46,966 From William Orbit to Demolition Crew, 72 00:02:46,991 --> 00:02:49,636 she's collaborated with the world's best producers 73 00:02:49,661 --> 00:02:51,836 to create the world's biggest hits. 74 00:02:51,861 --> 00:02:55,476 She is a vocalist who can bring her identity 75 00:02:55,501 --> 00:02:57,525 to everything she sings. 76 00:02:57,550 --> 00:03:00,116 And she's still going strong today. 77 00:03:00,141 --> 00:03:05,246 She was so heat-seeking-missile focused on success. 78 00:03:05,271 --> 00:03:08,356 I want longevity as a human being, so... 79 00:03:08,381 --> 00:03:09,886 ...l want it to last forever. 80 00:03:09,911 --> 00:03:13,046 She was like that from the beginning and she's still like that now. 81 00:03:13,071 --> 00:03:16,916 But if you want to understand why Madonna took the world by storm, 82 00:03:16,941 --> 00:03:20,116 you need to explore just three huge songs - 83 00:03:20,141 --> 00:03:21,996 her first three mega-hits... 84 00:03:22,021 --> 00:03:24,195 # Holiday... # 85 00:03:24,220 --> 00:03:26,636 # Ooh! Like a virgin... # 86 00:03:26,661 --> 00:03:29,246 # And I am a material girl... # 87 00:03:29,271 --> 00:03:31,476 ...to find the answer. 88 00:03:32,550 --> 00:03:34,686 CONTROL ROOM: We have main engine ignition. 89 00:03:34,711 --> 00:03:36,686 Three, two, one... 90 00:03:36,711 --> 00:03:38,356 We have lift-off! 91 00:03:38,381 --> 00:03:41,996 It's 1982 and the Columbia Space Shuttle's taking off 92 00:03:42,021 --> 00:03:43,916 on its third mission into space... 93 00:03:45,021 --> 00:03:47,246 "jimmy Connors is bringing bad boy of tennis, 94 00:03:47,271 --> 00:03:49,075 John McEnroe, back down to Earth... 95 00:03:50,220 --> 00:03:52,395 ...and the sky's the limit for Michaeljackson, 96 00:03:52,420 --> 00:03:56,075 as his Thriller album breaks all sales records. 97 00:03:57,191 --> 00:03:59,166 Meanwhile, a young Madonna Ciccone 98 00:03:59,191 --> 00:04:01,476 has risen from dance student in Michigan 99 00:04:01,501 --> 00:04:04,356 to be on the verge of releasing her first single. 100 00:04:04,381 --> 00:04:06,525 But it had been four tough years getting there. 101 00:04:08,220 --> 00:04:09,716 When Madonna was 20, 102 00:04:09,741 --> 00:04:11,716 she did what she now says 103 00:04:11,741 --> 00:04:14,606 is the bravest thing she'd ever done. 104 00:04:14,631 --> 00:04:16,325 She dropped out of dance college 105 00:04:16,350 --> 00:04:17,836 and she went to New York. 106 00:04:17,861 --> 00:04:20,716 She said it was the first time she'd been on a plane. 107 00:04:20,741 --> 00:04:22,445 First time she'd been in a taxi. 108 00:04:22,470 --> 00:04:25,476 She only had $35 in her pocket. 109 00:04:25,501 --> 00:04:28,166 But she had a dream and she had a belief. 110 00:04:28,191 --> 00:04:30,916 And it was, for her, the beginning of everything. 111 00:04:33,141 --> 00:04:36,195 Madonna worked at a Dunkin' Donuts to make money. 112 00:04:36,220 --> 00:04:39,916 She lived in really cruddy, broken-down buildings 113 00:04:39,941 --> 00:04:41,636 in rough parts of town. 114 00:04:41,661 --> 00:04:44,166 To be a young woman on your own 115 00:04:44,191 --> 00:04:45,756 in Manhattan at the time, 116 00:04:45,781 --> 00:04:48,525 we had to be made out of pretty stern stuff. 117 00:04:48,550 --> 00:04:50,966 MADONNA: A lot of it has to do with imagination 118 00:04:50,991 --> 00:04:53,525 and the great desire and need to get out 119 00:04:53,550 --> 00:04:56,756 of that small town kind of feeling, 120 00:04:56,781 --> 00:04:58,556 go somewhere and be somebody 121 00:04:58,581 --> 00:05:00,996 because you feel like you're missing something. 122 00:05:04,781 --> 00:05:09,086 As well as being edgy, the city was a hotbed of artistic invention. 123 00:05:09,111 --> 00:05:12,445 In and around the club scene, the ambitious Madonna 124 00:05:12,470 --> 00:05:15,036 soaked up all the influences on offer. 125 00:05:15,061 --> 00:05:18,445 So the underground scene in New York in the early '80s when Madonna 126 00:05:18,470 --> 00:05:20,476 was running around was wild. 127 00:05:20,501 --> 00:05:22,686 Hi! 128 00:05:22,711 --> 00:05:25,525 It was filled with a lot of people who didn't have a lot of money, 129 00:05:25,550 --> 00:05:27,606 but had a lot of creativity. 130 00:05:27,631 --> 00:05:30,756 I would say there was just an incredible rhythmic surge 131 00:05:30,781 --> 00:05:32,916 in New York City during that time. 132 00:05:32,941 --> 00:05:34,756 The city was raw. 133 00:05:34,781 --> 00:05:36,836 The city was accessible. 134 00:05:36,861 --> 00:05:40,716 You could come from anywhere and absolutely reinvent yourself. 135 00:05:40,741 --> 00:05:42,916 And that's what Madonna did. 136 00:05:42,941 --> 00:05:46,166 There was a buzz going on with Madonna because Madonna 137 00:05:46,191 --> 00:05:47,275 had so much charisma. 138 00:05:47,300 --> 00:05:50,726 She was really a new, upcoming phenomenon. 139 00:05:50,751 --> 00:05:53,966 You know, in New York. Everyone knew about her in town. 140 00:05:53,991 --> 00:05:57,806 Although New York had been at the centre of earlier music trends, 141 00:05:57,831 --> 00:06:00,246 styles were heading in new directions. 142 00:06:00,271 --> 00:06:07,916 By that time, the big crest of disco had really come and then receded. 143 00:06:07,941 --> 00:06:11,556 People still wanted to dance, but it had to change a little bit. 144 00:06:11,581 --> 00:06:14,356 Madonna's music really - early music - really reflects that. 145 00:06:14,381 --> 00:06:15,996 She'd do her act at clubs 146 00:06:16,021 --> 00:06:19,756 probably with pre-recorded music doing, like, dance stuff. 147 00:06:19,781 --> 00:06:22,715 It was about the music, the presentation, the visual image. 148 00:06:22,740 --> 00:06:25,205 You can see that she's very influenced by people 149 00:06:25,230 --> 00:06:29,404 like Debbie Harry, who had that kind of glamour and grace. 150 00:06:29,429 --> 00:06:31,205 I was inspired by Debbie Harry 151 00:06:31,230 --> 00:06:34,845 because she seemed very in charge of what she was doing 152 00:06:34,870 --> 00:06:38,045 and she also had a sort of wittiness about her 153 00:06:38,070 --> 00:06:39,354 and street smarts. 154 00:06:39,379 --> 00:06:41,515 And I liked her. 155 00:06:41,540 --> 00:06:42,845 She was a role model. 156 00:06:42,870 --> 00:06:46,325 Grace Jones is also the apotheosis of it. 157 00:06:46,350 --> 00:06:48,925 # Pull up to the bumper baby 158 00:06:48,950 --> 00:06:53,435 # In your long black limousine... # 159 00:06:53,460 --> 00:06:55,765 You don't just get music on its own. 160 00:06:55,790 --> 00:06:59,225 What you get is the music matches the attitude, which matches 161 00:06:59,250 --> 00:07:01,424 the visuals, which matches the videos. 162 00:07:02,529 --> 00:07:06,304 After months on the music circuit fringe, Madonna signed her first 163 00:07:06,329 --> 00:07:09,015 record deal, and in October 1982, 164 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:12,254 her label released her debut single, Everybody. 165 00:07:12,279 --> 00:07:16,254 # Everybody, come on, dance with me 166 00:07:16,279 --> 00:07:20,504 # Everybody, get up and do your thing... # 167 00:07:20,529 --> 00:07:22,504 We had heard her singing "Everybody", the song - 168 00:07:22,529 --> 00:07:24,335 # Everybody... # 169 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,504 You know, which is sort of like a sing-along song. 170 00:07:26,529 --> 00:07:28,174 We was very impressed with it 171 00:07:28,199 --> 00:07:31,065 and I liked it a lot when I first heard it. 172 00:07:44,090 --> 00:07:48,015 The song may have been low-key, but the singer had high-powered friends 173 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,455 and in her determination to be a success, 174 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:52,535 she was prepared to call on them. 175 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:56,535 Madonna had been dating the DJ at Danceteria, Mark Kamins, 176 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,615 and she decided that she was going to impress upon Mark that he needed 177 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:01,535 to play this music. 178 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,785 Now, this is his beautiful girlfriend and it's a song 179 00:08:04,810 --> 00:08:07,254 that he liked, but he was afraid because he thought, 180 00:08:07,279 --> 00:08:08,785 "What if everybody stops dancing?" 181 00:08:08,810 --> 00:08:11,504 But he took the risk. He played it and nobody stopped dancing. 182 00:08:11,529 --> 00:08:13,655 Everybody continued dancing. They loved it. 183 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:17,225 Loved it, and bought it. 184 00:08:17,250 --> 00:08:19,535 Not only did the song become a clubland favourite 185 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,705 it reached the top five in the US dance charts. 186 00:08:22,730 --> 00:08:26,504 It's the world superstar in embryo. 187 00:08:26,529 --> 00:08:28,705 You can't yet tell she's going to be a superstar 188 00:08:28,730 --> 00:08:31,335 but what you can tell is she has an identity, 189 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:33,015 she has an attitude 190 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:36,145 and she has a presence. And it's all there. 191 00:08:36,170 --> 00:08:39,705 # But you don't even know I'm alive 192 00:08:39,730 --> 00:08:43,294 # And this pounding in my heart just won't die 193 00:08:43,319 --> 00:08:45,145 # I'm burning up... # 194 00:08:45,170 --> 00:08:46,865 Keen to cash in on her early success 195 00:08:46,890 --> 00:08:50,095 Madonna's label rushed out a follow-up dance single - Burning Up. 196 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:53,945 # I'm burning up, burning up for your love 197 00:08:53,970 --> 00:08:56,785 # I'm burning up, burning up for your love... # 198 00:08:56,810 --> 00:09:02,785 I really enjoyed Madonna's first singles, Burning Up and Everybody. 199 00:09:02,810 --> 00:09:07,865 They were so melodic, poppy and dancey all at the same time. 200 00:09:07,890 --> 00:09:09,895 And then I saw a photograph of her. 201 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,735 I thought, OK. She's sort of a contender here 202 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:15,655 because she was combining this street look 203 00:09:15,680 --> 00:09:19,254 with this very accessible pop sound. 204 00:09:19,279 --> 00:09:21,424 # Now tell me what you want me to do 205 00:09:21,449 --> 00:09:24,455 # I'm not blind, and I know 206 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:29,585 # That you want to want me but you can't let go, c'mon, let's go! 207 00:09:29,610 --> 00:09:32,254 It wasn't a hit, but that almost doesn't matter 208 00:09:32,279 --> 00:09:34,655 because every journey starts with a step. 209 00:09:34,680 --> 00:09:39,225 And Burning Up is a very small but significant step. 210 00:09:39,250 --> 00:09:41,815 A much bigger step came six months later. 211 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,615 Madonna released a feel-good pop anthem that would take her 212 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,815 out of the dance charts and into the mainstream. 213 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:49,935 # Holiday 214 00:09:51,810 --> 00:09:53,895 # Celebrate... # 215 00:09:56,319 --> 00:09:58,615 Holiday is a fun, frothy pop song. 216 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:00,345 The meaning isn't super deep. 217 00:10:00,370 --> 00:10:04,065 It's just a song about partying and having a little bit of fun. 218 00:10:04,090 --> 00:10:06,345 # If we took a holiday... # 219 00:10:08,170 --> 00:10:10,535 The upbeat lyrics were no accident. 220 00:10:10,560 --> 00:10:13,145 They were written as an antidote to the depressing events 221 00:10:13,170 --> 00:10:17,174 that dominated the early '80s news cycle. 222 00:10:17,199 --> 00:10:20,504 # It would be, it would be so nice... # 223 00:10:20,529 --> 00:10:25,815 I was inspired by watching the television news at the time. 224 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:29,585 It was troubling to see so much turmoil and this confusion 225 00:10:29,610 --> 00:10:34,254 so it came to me like, if we just had one day that we could just stop 226 00:10:34,279 --> 00:10:38,455 everywhere all over the world, that would be like a really great thing. 227 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:40,145 So the lyrics came - 228 00:10:40,170 --> 00:10:43,865 "lf we took a holiday, took some time to celebrate, 229 00:10:43,890 --> 00:10:47,294 "Just one day out of life, it would be so nice." 230 00:10:47,319 --> 00:10:51,174 Sometimes when people are going through very difficult situations, 231 00:10:51,199 --> 00:10:54,735 simplicity sticks the landing better than sophistication, something 232 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,815 that just lifts your spirits because it's light as air 233 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,455 and you just can't resist how wonderful it is. 234 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:02,374 The melody went like this. 235 00:11:02,399 --> 00:11:05,455 HE STRUMS MAIN RIFF FROM "HOLIDAY" 236 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,575 # If we took a holiday 237 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:11,985 # Took some time to celebrate... # 238 00:11:13,090 --> 00:11:15,504 By the time Curtis offered Holiday to Madonna, 239 00:11:15,529 --> 00:11:18,455 two other artists had already turned the song down. 240 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:21,535 But her recording would deliver the stardom she'd always craved. 241 00:11:21,560 --> 00:11:22,575 # ..so nice 242 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:24,785 # Everybody spread the word... # 243 00:11:24,810 --> 00:11:28,145 Holiday was like a wrecking ball that smashed the wall 244 00:11:28,170 --> 00:11:30,145 that Madonna had been facing. 245 00:11:30,170 --> 00:11:34,065 It was her pop breakthrough and it was the start of her becoming 246 00:11:34,090 --> 00:11:36,254 one of the biggest stars on the planet. 247 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:40,655 CHEERING 248 00:11:46,890 --> 00:11:48,294 "Holiday" PLAYS 249 00:11:48,319 --> 00:11:49,935 It's 1983 250 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:54,174 and Madonna has risen from dance school dropout to dance chart star. 251 00:11:54,199 --> 00:11:56,935 This is the story behind the three songs that launched her 252 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,095 into global superstardom. 253 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:00,895 # Holiday... # 254 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:05,785 With the first, Holiday, just about to be released, it was her first 255 00:12:05,810 --> 00:12:10,785 mainstream pop song and would go on to be a hit across the globe. 256 00:12:10,810 --> 00:12:12,865 # Celebrate... # 257 00:12:12,890 --> 00:12:15,215 But while the song had worldwide appeal, 258 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:19,624 it was rooted in New York's disco-influenced R&B scene. 259 00:12:19,649 --> 00:12:21,785 I was in a band called Pure Energy. 260 00:12:21,810 --> 00:12:23,985 It consisted of myself, 261 00:12:24,010 --> 00:12:25,985 Raymond Hudson, my brother, 262 00:12:26,010 --> 00:12:29,624 and Lisa Stevens, the lead singer. 263 00:12:29,649 --> 00:12:31,174 Lisa had these chords... 264 00:12:31,199 --> 00:12:35,345 HE HUMS CHORDS FROM "HOLIDAY" 265 00:12:36,730 --> 00:12:40,705 I wrote everything else in the song - the melody, 266 00:12:40,730 --> 00:12:45,985 the lyrics, the arrangement. Everything else was, was my ideas. 267 00:12:46,010 --> 00:12:51,785 As soon as we got to the point that we heard the intro part 268 00:12:51,810 --> 00:12:53,174 of Holiday, the... 269 00:12:53,199 --> 00:12:54,215 HE HUMS SYNTH PART 270 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:57,254 SYNTH PART PLAYS 271 00:12:57,279 --> 00:12:59,215 ...Curtis created that part. 272 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:01,455 We knew the song had a certain... 273 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:02,735 SONGS STOPS BEFORE MAIN BEAT KICKS IN 274 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:04,294 ...energy, I would say. 275 00:13:04,319 --> 00:13:07,294 It was a positive energy and we was like, we gotta do something with this song. 276 00:13:08,529 --> 00:13:10,215 Holiday had all the elements 277 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:11,895 a catchy pop anthem needed 278 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:15,535 but if Pure Energy thought it would make THEM famous, they were wrong. 279 00:13:15,560 --> 00:13:17,935 When we finished recording a demo, 280 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:19,935 I let tonnes of people hear it. 281 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,174 And every time Holiday would come on, 282 00:13:22,199 --> 00:13:24,174 everyone would say, "That's a hit. 283 00:13:24,199 --> 00:13:28,424 "Stop there, play that again. That, that song is a hit." 284 00:13:28,449 --> 00:13:31,345 And we was hoping that it would be the song to launch us, 285 00:13:31,370 --> 00:13:34,424 but our record label, they turned it down. 286 00:13:34,449 --> 00:13:35,815 And that's when we decided 287 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:38,174 we were going to shop the song to other artists. 288 00:13:39,399 --> 00:13:42,935 Two of those artists turned the song down, but, remaining convinced 289 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:45,985 of its potential, Curtis and his bandmates turned to 290 00:13:46,010 --> 00:13:47,855 their New York disco contacts. 291 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:50,815 We had a relationship with Jellybean, john Benitez. 292 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,815 Jelly Bean was a very influential DJ. 293 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:55,624 And he wasn't just at one club. 294 00:13:55,649 --> 00:13:59,895 He was in about six clubs, including Studio 54. 295 00:14:10,170 --> 00:14:13,494 But it was jellybean's romantic rather than clubland connections 296 00:14:13,519 --> 00:14:16,015 that landed the perfect artist. 297 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:20,265 Madonna and he hooked up and I think it's very fortuitous 298 00:14:20,290 --> 00:14:22,815 that they happened to come together that time. 299 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:24,265 They were dating for a while. 300 00:14:24,290 --> 00:14:26,705 I mean, I don't know how serious, but we know 301 00:14:26,730 --> 00:14:29,374 that they were very close. Very close. 302 00:14:29,399 --> 00:14:32,575 That's how we end up meeting Madonna, because what we did was 303 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:34,785 we went to this club called The Funhouse 304 00:14:34,810 --> 00:14:36,455 where jellybean was the big DJ. 305 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:38,705 And he invited Madonna there. 306 00:14:38,730 --> 00:14:43,455 After we met with her and she told us she loved the song and, you know, 307 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:46,535 pretty much asked us could she do the song. 308 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:52,145 And as a whole we decided that maybe there's something between this song 309 00:14:52,170 --> 00:14:56,294 and this artist, might be something magical. 310 00:14:57,519 --> 00:15:00,424 With the agreement struck, Madonna turned up at the studio 311 00:15:00,449 --> 00:15:02,935 ready to record Pure Energy's song. 312 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:07,174 But, right from the start, she made it clear it was now HER song. 313 00:15:07,199 --> 00:15:09,785 Madonna comes in and does sing Holiday - 314 00:15:09,810 --> 00:15:11,535 # Holiday, celebrate! 315 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:13,015 She was, like, really happy about it. 316 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:15,015 So we hoped that Holiday gonna be good for Madonna. 317 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:19,015 She was watching everything that happened in the studio. 318 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:22,895 She want to make sure that nothing didn't mess the song up 319 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:24,494 or hurt the song. 320 00:15:27,519 --> 00:15:30,294 I remember when I was doing the guitar parts 321 00:15:30,319 --> 00:15:33,985 and I was playing it a certain way, and she stopped. 322 00:15:34,010 --> 00:15:36,624 She said, "Do you have to do that? 323 00:15:36,649 --> 00:15:40,174 "You can hear the bounce on the strings." 324 00:15:40,199 --> 00:15:42,705 HE STRUMS PERCUSSIVELY 325 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,815 HE STRUMS WITH NOTES LAYERED ON 326 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:53,785 So when you put the two of those together, 327 00:15:53,810 --> 00:15:56,095 it's a very funky track. 328 00:16:01,010 --> 00:16:02,785 That's what they call the funk. 329 00:16:02,810 --> 00:16:06,855 You know, it's the guitar pick hitting up against the strings 330 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,655 and give it a funky, you know, rhythmic feel. 331 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:13,174 BASS RIFF IS ADDED 332 00:16:13,199 --> 00:16:16,374 She like, "But could you do that without playing, without doing it?" 333 00:16:16,399 --> 00:16:19,215 I say, "Yes, but I don't want to do that." 334 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:24,095 And so we kind of like had a little, uh, debate about that 335 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:26,174 and I thinkjellybean shut it down. 336 00:16:26,199 --> 00:16:29,174 You know, sort of like, "He's the guitarist, let him play it." 337 00:16:29,199 --> 00:16:31,705 How many artists even pay attention to that? 338 00:16:31,730 --> 00:16:33,905 You know, so I was annoyed a little bit, 339 00:16:33,930 --> 00:16:35,735 but I was kinda impressed at the same time. 340 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:40,905 The thing about many artists, you see their personalities change 341 00:16:40,930 --> 00:16:43,935 when, you know, the attention, the money and publicity. 342 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:46,265 Madonna was always the same. 343 00:16:46,290 --> 00:16:48,095 So when she hadn't sold a record, 344 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:51,265 she was as difficult as when she'd sold 50 million records 345 00:16:51,290 --> 00:16:55,575 because she knew her own mind and she was generally always right. 346 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:58,174 # If we took a holiday... # 347 00:16:58,199 --> 00:17:01,494 Madonna may have been difficult over the instrumentals, 348 00:17:01,519 --> 00:17:03,455 but when it came to laying down her vocals, 349 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:05,174 she was downright demanding. 350 00:17:05,199 --> 00:17:07,655 Other than the producer, she ordered everyone out, 351 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:10,905 including original vocalist Lisa Stevens. 352 00:17:10,930 --> 00:17:12,655 Jellybean informed us that 353 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:16,095 well, Madonna don't want anybody to be in the studio. 354 00:17:16,120 --> 00:17:18,785 So we was like, "OK!" You know? 355 00:17:18,810 --> 00:17:22,705 I mean, I kind of felt bad cos Raymond and myself, 356 00:17:22,730 --> 00:17:25,795 we was there, you know, in the session for the rhythm track 357 00:17:25,820 --> 00:17:27,805 and we was participating in that 358 00:17:27,830 --> 00:17:30,644 and Lisa was like, I guess she was saying, "OK, vocals next." 359 00:17:30,669 --> 00:17:34,394 And Madonna had a different idea. 360 00:17:34,419 --> 00:17:39,644 Even at this young age, she would take no bull from anybody. 361 00:17:39,669 --> 00:17:41,644 She would believe what she believed. 362 00:17:41,669 --> 00:17:44,115 And she trusted her own instinct. 363 00:17:44,140 --> 00:17:48,115 And, time after time, she proved to be right. 364 00:17:48,140 --> 00:17:49,725 She brought a sort of innocence 365 00:17:49,750 --> 00:17:52,035 that's going to appeal to a lot of young people. 366 00:17:52,060 --> 00:17:53,875 And she brought her liveness, 367 00:17:53,900 --> 00:17:55,875 she brought her identity, 368 00:17:55,900 --> 00:17:58,035 she brought...energy, 369 00:17:58,060 --> 00:18:00,235 she brought her style. 370 00:18:00,260 --> 00:18:01,955 We wasn't in the studio at all. 371 00:18:01,980 --> 00:18:05,564 That's why we were surprised when we did hear her final vocals. 372 00:18:05,589 --> 00:18:08,675 It was like, "Wow, OK, they sound good!" 373 00:18:08,700 --> 00:18:12,925 Madonna at this stage was a great vocalist because she had something 374 00:18:12,950 --> 00:18:15,545 that you'd not get on a lot of club records. 375 00:18:15,570 --> 00:18:17,644 Her diction was really clear 376 00:18:17,669 --> 00:18:20,394 and she sounded like she was riding the rhythm 377 00:18:20,419 --> 00:18:23,755 and just kind of almost speak-singing the words. Yeah - 378 00:18:23,780 --> 00:18:25,725 # If we took a holiday... 379 00:18:25,750 --> 00:18:27,875 No, riffs, and she'd give space. 380 00:18:27,900 --> 00:18:29,725 # If we took a holiday... 381 00:18:32,219 --> 00:18:34,795 # just one time to celebrate... # 382 00:18:34,820 --> 00:18:36,235 Empty the space. 383 00:18:36,260 --> 00:18:38,514 # Some time to celebrate 384 00:18:40,700 --> 00:18:42,545 # Just one day out of life 385 00:18:44,750 --> 00:18:45,755 # It would be 386 00:18:46,980 --> 00:18:48,925 # It would be so nice... # 387 00:18:48,950 --> 00:18:53,444 Madonna was all about rhythm and attitude and vibe, and Holiday 388 00:18:53,469 --> 00:18:56,115 had all of those imprints. 389 00:18:56,140 --> 00:18:59,475 Holiday was the first showcase for a vocal style that would soon 390 00:18:59,500 --> 00:19:02,675 become instantly recognisable all over the world 391 00:19:02,700 --> 00:19:05,564 and was an important step towards the global phenomenon 392 00:19:05,589 --> 00:19:07,875 that Madonna would soon become. 393 00:19:07,900 --> 00:19:10,795 It quickly became a mainstream American radio favourite 394 00:19:10,820 --> 00:19:15,155 and reached number 16 on the all-important US Billboard chart. 395 00:19:15,180 --> 00:19:17,925 Madonna was a mere disco artist no more. 396 00:19:27,780 --> 00:19:30,795 Holiday was her pop breakthrough. 397 00:19:30,820 --> 00:19:33,394 It was irritatingly unforgettable. 398 00:19:33,419 --> 00:19:36,085 It kind of worked its way into you. 399 00:19:36,110 --> 00:19:37,545 # Celebrate 400 00:19:40,539 --> 00:19:41,875 # Holiday 401 00:19:44,589 --> 00:19:47,285 All those involved in the recording of Holiday believed 402 00:19:47,310 --> 00:19:50,925 it would be a hit, but surprisingly the record company Warner Bros 403 00:19:50,950 --> 00:19:53,314 hadn't even bothered to produce a promotional video. 404 00:19:53,339 --> 00:19:55,235 # Some time to celebrate... # 405 00:19:55,260 --> 00:19:58,365 There are a couple of performances Madonna gave for a little lip-sync 406 00:19:58,390 --> 00:20:01,875 promotion spot and those sort of ended up being what was used 407 00:20:01,900 --> 00:20:04,875 as the video, in people's minds. 408 00:20:04,900 --> 00:20:09,564 The video is absolutely charming because she's so free in it. 409 00:20:09,589 --> 00:20:11,235 The dancing is kind of goofy. 410 00:20:11,260 --> 00:20:14,725 It's a little bit like doing the Sailor's Hornpipe. 411 00:20:14,750 --> 00:20:17,235 It's great. She's got this kind of skipping little dance 412 00:20:17,260 --> 00:20:19,755 that she does, but it's the same dance that she did every time 413 00:20:19,780 --> 00:20:21,235 she performed this - 414 00:20:21,260 --> 00:20:23,434 the kind of swaying from side to side. 415 00:20:23,459 --> 00:20:26,235 She knows exactly where the cameras are. 416 00:20:26,260 --> 00:20:28,475 She looks fantastic. 417 00:20:30,980 --> 00:20:34,644 Those looks caught the public's attention as much as the music. 418 00:20:34,669 --> 00:20:37,475 The first of many Madonna styles was born. 419 00:20:50,099 --> 00:20:52,553 We have the scarf in the tousled hair. 420 00:20:52,578 --> 00:20:55,914 We've got the really acutely defined lips, 421 00:20:55,939 --> 00:20:58,224 loose top, the layers, 422 00:20:58,249 --> 00:21:00,744 the skirts, the little dancer leggings. 423 00:21:00,769 --> 00:21:04,503 She looks like a cute, broke New York dancer 424 00:21:04,528 --> 00:21:06,194 on her day off. 425 00:21:20,889 --> 00:21:23,553 The street style may have looked thrown together, 426 00:21:23,578 --> 00:21:26,464 but every aspect was carefully thought through - 427 00:21:26,489 --> 00:21:28,383 as photographer Richard Corman found out 428 00:21:28,408 --> 00:21:30,664 during one of her first professional shoots. 429 00:21:30,689 --> 00:21:34,354 I had never met anybody like Madonna. 430 00:21:34,379 --> 00:21:38,194 From her dark roots in her hair to her red lips, 431 00:21:38,219 --> 00:21:40,194 to the make-up on her eyes, 432 00:21:40,219 --> 00:21:42,503 to the way she was dressed - 433 00:21:42,528 --> 00:21:44,664 the torn jeans, the jewellery. 434 00:21:44,689 --> 00:21:46,944 She was living art. 435 00:21:46,969 --> 00:21:50,173 I knew I was in the throes of something remarkable. 436 00:21:52,129 --> 00:21:55,944 Her sexuality was a part of every photograph we took. 437 00:21:55,969 --> 00:21:58,914 Whether it was through her humour, 438 00:21:58,939 --> 00:22:03,224 whether it was the way she looked into the camera, 439 00:22:03,249 --> 00:22:07,423 she made an ordinary stove sexy and funny 440 00:22:07,448 --> 00:22:09,584 and playful and charismatic 441 00:22:09,609 --> 00:22:10,914 and three-dimensional, 442 00:22:10,939 --> 00:22:13,664 unlike anybody could have. 443 00:22:13,689 --> 00:22:17,224 Working with Madonna, 444 00:22:17,249 --> 00:22:21,584 it was jaw-dropping for me because I had never seen somebody 445 00:22:21,609 --> 00:22:25,064 that was so comfortable in her own skin. 446 00:22:25,089 --> 00:22:29,584 And if she wasn't, you know, I was totally fooled. 447 00:22:29,609 --> 00:22:33,024 With mounting record sales and magazine front covers, 448 00:22:33,049 --> 00:22:36,104 it was time for the next step in Madonna's transformation 449 00:22:36,129 --> 00:22:38,303 into a key cultural figure. 450 00:22:38,328 --> 00:22:39,944 It came with an appearance on America's 451 00:22:39,969 --> 00:22:42,144 premier TV music show. 452 00:22:42,169 --> 00:22:46,224 American Bandstand is a pop music institution on US television. 453 00:22:46,249 --> 00:22:49,194 The fact that Madonna was on such an iconic show 454 00:22:49,219 --> 00:22:51,194 was really important. 455 00:22:51,219 --> 00:22:52,633 To those who'd worked with her, 456 00:22:52,658 --> 00:22:55,503 Madonna's ruthless ambition was an open secret. 457 00:22:55,528 --> 00:22:58,194 Now she was about to share it with everyone. 458 00:22:59,658 --> 00:23:01,194 Mm, to rule the world. 459 00:23:03,729 --> 00:23:05,553 And you just think, 460 00:23:05,578 --> 00:23:07,584 "Ooh, what hubris." 461 00:23:07,609 --> 00:23:09,784 But, my God, she was right! 462 00:23:09,809 --> 00:23:11,784 There's plenty of talented people out there - 463 00:23:11,809 --> 00:23:14,704 more talented, much more talented than Madonna - 464 00:23:14,729 --> 00:23:17,584 but they do not have that drive. # It would be so nice... 465 00:23:17,609 --> 00:23:20,224 It had taken barely a year for Madonna to move 466 00:23:20,249 --> 00:23:23,633 from an obscure dance artist to mainstream star. 467 00:23:23,658 --> 00:23:25,994 And she would always have this song to thank. 468 00:23:26,019 --> 00:23:27,864 # Let's celebrate. # 469 00:23:27,889 --> 00:23:31,633 Holiday was like a wrecking ball that smashed the wall 470 00:23:31,658 --> 00:23:32,944 that Madonna had been facing. 471 00:23:32,969 --> 00:23:35,224 It was her pop breakthrough, 472 00:23:35,249 --> 00:23:38,383 and it was the start of her becoming one of the biggest stars 473 00:23:38,408 --> 00:23:39,814 on the planet. 474 00:23:39,839 --> 00:23:45,383 Holiday was a great entry-level song for future Madonna fans. 475 00:23:45,408 --> 00:23:48,194 It was just the fun Madonna. 476 00:23:48,219 --> 00:23:50,024 The escapist Madonna. 477 00:23:50,049 --> 00:23:51,864 # You're so fine 478 00:23:51,889 --> 00:23:53,633 # And you're mine... # 479 00:23:53,658 --> 00:23:56,194 But there was a series of other Madonnas 480 00:23:56,219 --> 00:23:57,633 already in the pipeline. 481 00:23:57,658 --> 00:24:00,834 And as the styles kept changing, the hits kept coming. 482 00:24:07,999 --> 00:24:09,974 # Make everything all right... 483 00:24:09,999 --> 00:24:13,404 By 1984, Madonna was an established pop act, 484 00:24:13,429 --> 00:24:15,363 following up her breakthrough hit, Holiday, 485 00:24:15,388 --> 00:24:18,044 with the equally catchy Lucky Star. 486 00:24:18,069 --> 00:24:21,044 # You must be my lucky star... # 487 00:24:21,069 --> 00:24:24,363 Her sound and image had inspired other female artists. 488 00:24:26,229 --> 00:24:30,254 And, soon, rivals like Cyndi Lauper were vying to take her place. 489 00:24:30,279 --> 00:24:33,084 # Girls, they want to have fun. # 490 00:24:33,109 --> 00:24:34,363 # Cos you got the best of me... 491 00:24:34,388 --> 00:24:36,563 Madonna knew she had to hit back. 492 00:24:36,588 --> 00:24:39,563 Her next release, Borderline, hit the top ten. 493 00:24:39,588 --> 00:24:41,954 # Borderline... # 494 00:24:41,979 --> 00:24:43,284 But, behind the scenes, 495 00:24:43,309 --> 00:24:46,004 she was working on something much bigger. 496 00:25:00,429 --> 00:25:03,404 The key to that stardom arrives later that year 497 00:25:03,429 --> 00:25:06,124 with a track that was to smash away convention, 498 00:25:06,149 --> 00:25:09,724 confront controversy and put Madonna in an unassailable position 499 00:25:09,749 --> 00:25:11,124 in global pop- 500 00:25:11,149 --> 00:25:13,334 Hi, we're in New York, 501 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,404 and here's a song for my new album, entitled Like A Virgin. 502 00:25:16,429 --> 00:25:19,974 # Like a virgin 503 00:25:19,999 --> 00:25:24,613 # Touched for the very first time 504 00:25:24,638 --> 00:25:28,284 # Like a virgin... 505 00:25:28,309 --> 00:25:31,974 Like A Virgin broke Madonna on a worldwide stage. 506 00:25:31,999 --> 00:25:33,794 You know, Holiday had been her breakthrough, 507 00:25:33,819 --> 00:25:36,613 but this was her golden ticket. 508 00:25:44,789 --> 00:25:47,404 Hearing like a Virgin for the first time was a shock 509 00:25:47,429 --> 00:25:51,324 because the word virgin wasn't really used on the radio. 510 00:25:51,349 --> 00:25:53,124 Like a virgin. Like a what? 511 00:25:53,149 --> 00:25:54,324 Excuse me, lady. 512 00:25:54,349 --> 00:25:58,613 Like a virgin? You know, those days are gone for you. 513 00:25:58,638 --> 00:26:01,563 Like A Virgin came from the pens of Billy Steinberg 514 00:26:01,588 --> 00:26:05,563 and Tom Kelly, the celebrated duo behind a string of top ten hits 515 00:26:05,588 --> 00:26:07,683 for other artists across the '80s. 516 00:26:10,429 --> 00:26:13,004 Billy Steinberg and Tom Kelly co-wrote 517 00:26:13,029 --> 00:26:15,613 so many great '80s pop songs. 518 00:26:15,638 --> 00:26:17,764 I'm thinking about I Drove All Night. 519 00:26:17,789 --> 00:26:19,363 True Colours was another one. 520 00:26:19,388 --> 00:26:21,124 Such deft songwriting. 521 00:26:21,149 --> 00:26:25,404 # True colours are shining through... # 522 00:26:25,429 --> 00:26:29,124 Steinberg and Kelly had never worked with Madonna before, 523 00:26:29,149 --> 00:26:31,683 and they didn't compose the track with her in mind. 524 00:26:31,708 --> 00:26:38,204 The song tells the story about how I extricated myself 525 00:26:38,229 --> 00:26:40,644 from a very difficult relationship... 526 00:26:42,199 --> 00:26:45,894 ...and found myself in a new, joyous relationship... 527 00:26:46,949 --> 00:26:51,174 ...which made me feel shiny and new. 528 00:26:51,199 --> 00:26:54,644 # Yeah, you made me feel 529 00:26:54,669 --> 00:26:56,404 # Shiny and new... 530 00:26:56,429 --> 00:26:57,794 Like a virgin. 531 00:26:59,388 --> 00:27:01,894 # Like a virgin... 532 00:27:01,919 --> 00:27:04,844 I was really surprised to find out that it was written by a man 533 00:27:04,869 --> 00:27:06,683 reflecting on a time in his life 534 00:27:06,708 --> 00:27:09,324 when he'd come out of a bad relationship 535 00:27:09,349 --> 00:27:12,074 and was sort of finding his mojo again. 536 00:27:12,099 --> 00:27:15,483 I did feel when I came up with the title 537 00:27:15,508 --> 00:27:18,404 that I had something special, 538 00:27:18,429 --> 00:27:22,174 and something a bit irreverent, 539 00:27:22,199 --> 00:27:26,534 and something that would tickle people's imaginations 540 00:27:26,559 --> 00:27:29,683 and sense of the word virgin. 541 00:27:29,708 --> 00:27:33,924 I kind of got that it would be provocative. 542 00:27:33,949 --> 00:27:37,563 With the risque chorus completed, Billy and songwriting partner 543 00:27:37,588 --> 00:27:40,404 Tom Kelly began working on the rest of the track. 544 00:27:40,429 --> 00:27:45,404 We didn't find the right direction for the music immediately. 545 00:27:45,429 --> 00:27:48,683 And then he started to play a bass line 546 00:27:48,708 --> 00:27:53,254 that resembled I Can't Help Myself by the Four Tops. 547 00:27:53,279 --> 00:27:57,044 MUSIC: I Can't Help Myself by Four Tops 548 00:28:01,199 --> 00:28:04,204 MUSIC: Like A Virgin by Madonna 549 00:28:04,229 --> 00:28:06,404 He was playing that bass line. 550 00:28:06,429 --> 00:28:11,363 I propped the lyrics on his piano and he started singing falsetto. 551 00:28:11,388 --> 00:28:13,284 "L made it through the wilderness. 552 00:28:13,309 --> 00:28:15,204 "Somehow I made it through." 553 00:28:31,919 --> 00:28:33,404 I said, "That's it!" 554 00:28:33,429 --> 00:28:36,714 And then the song quickly wrote itself. 555 00:28:36,739 --> 00:28:38,644 It may only have been a demo version, 556 00:28:38,669 --> 00:28:41,254 but Tom Kelly's falsetto became the blueprint 557 00:28:41,279 --> 00:28:43,433 for Madonna's final vocal. 558 00:28:43,458 --> 00:28:48,204 An interesting part of it is the fade at the end of the demo, 559 00:28:48,229 --> 00:28:55,353 because you can really hear how she copied all Tom's ad libs 560 00:28:55,378 --> 00:28:57,404 as our demo was fading out. 561 00:29:06,708 --> 00:29:10,174 Madonna just basically lifted the whole performance. 562 00:29:10,199 --> 00:29:12,683 Like, she just copied it from beginning to end, 563 00:29:12,708 --> 00:29:17,284 including all of the little sighs and oohs and aahs. 564 00:29:17,309 --> 00:29:20,844 And even just some things that are said on the outro for the record. 565 00:29:20,869 --> 00:29:24,204 I mean, that's how perfectly conceived it was 566 00:29:24,229 --> 00:29:26,074 from songwriting to demo. 567 00:29:26,099 --> 00:29:28,844 Brilliantly conceived, but tough to sell. 568 00:29:28,869 --> 00:29:31,254 When Steinberg and Kelly completed their track, 569 00:29:31,279 --> 00:29:33,454 almost no-one would touch it. 570 00:29:33,479 --> 00:29:38,004 We started to play the song for various A&R people 571 00:29:38,029 --> 00:29:39,894 at different record companies, 572 00:29:39,919 --> 00:29:46,124 and we did get the response that no-one would ever sing 573 00:29:46,149 --> 00:29:49,964 a song titled Like A Virgin. 574 00:29:49,989 --> 00:29:55,644 But, fortunately, it was perfect for one singer, 575 00:29:55,669 --> 00:29:57,683 and her name was Madonna. 576 00:29:57,708 --> 00:30:01,004 # Like a virgin... 577 00:30:01,029 --> 00:30:02,483 Madonna has so many talents, 578 00:30:02,508 --> 00:30:05,683 and one of them is to know when a song is right for her, 579 00:30:05,708 --> 00:30:08,844 and somebody from the record company presented Like A Virgin to her 580 00:30:08,869 --> 00:30:10,204 in the demo form. 581 00:30:10,229 --> 00:30:11,924 And she went crazy. 582 00:30:11,949 --> 00:30:15,254 Everything about it was right for Madonna. 583 00:30:15,279 --> 00:30:20,004 It feels like there is no other singer in the world 584 00:30:20,029 --> 00:30:22,813 that could have sung that song. 585 00:30:25,429 --> 00:30:28,124 With Like A Virgin chosen by an excited Madonna 586 00:30:28,149 --> 00:30:29,404 as her next track, 587 00:30:29,429 --> 00:30:31,563 Chic's legendary guitarist, Nile Rodgers, 588 00:30:31,588 --> 00:30:33,764 was brought in to produce. 589 00:30:33,789 --> 00:30:36,353 But, initially, he had his doubts about the track. 590 00:30:36,378 --> 00:30:37,844 Nile Rogers, he wasn't sure. 591 00:30:37,869 --> 00:30:42,244 He's like, "lt's kind of a weird hook to sing Like A Virgin. 592 00:30:42,269 --> 00:30:43,483 "And I'm not really..." 593 00:30:43,508 --> 00:30:46,603 She was like, "No, trust me. "This is absolutely it." 594 00:30:46,628 --> 00:30:47,714 And she was right. 595 00:30:47,739 --> 00:30:49,924 Once Rogers overcame his doubts, 596 00:30:49,949 --> 00:30:52,353 he and Madonna shared the studio for every moment 597 00:30:52,378 --> 00:30:53,563 of the production, 598 00:30:53,588 --> 00:30:55,714 including some awkward ones. 599 00:31:16,628 --> 00:31:18,994 # You're so fine... 600 00:31:19,019 --> 00:31:22,404 Whatever the studio tensions, the results were worth it. 601 00:31:22,429 --> 00:31:25,563 For Madonna, it was the song that changed everything. 602 00:31:25,588 --> 00:31:29,924 Like A Virgin, for her, was the moment 603 00:31:29,949 --> 00:31:32,924 where everybody who would have thought 604 00:31:32,949 --> 00:31:36,353 she was a passing fad realised that, actually, 605 00:31:36,378 --> 00:31:39,174 this woman, she's a game changer. 606 00:31:44,349 --> 00:31:49,994 # Like a virgin... 607 00:31:50,019 --> 00:31:51,994 Helping the song provide maximum punch - 608 00:31:52,019 --> 00:31:53,284 the video. 609 00:31:53,309 --> 00:31:55,714 The sexually charged performance was the template 610 00:31:55,739 --> 00:31:57,813 for many more videos to come, 611 00:31:57,838 --> 00:32:00,733 and this time along the canals of Venice. 612 00:32:00,758 --> 00:32:03,894 She's writhing around in a gondola, 613 00:32:03,919 --> 00:32:06,404 going through a tunnel and coming out the other side. 614 00:32:06,429 --> 00:32:09,094 I mean, that's just so ham-fisted and so on the nose. 615 00:32:09,119 --> 00:32:11,244 I think what this tells us about Madonna 616 00:32:11,269 --> 00:32:12,964 is that she just loves to shock. 617 00:32:12,989 --> 00:32:14,994 She lives to shock. 618 00:32:25,739 --> 00:32:27,714 In music, at this point, 619 00:32:27,739 --> 00:32:32,204 what you really didn't have is a female artist 620 00:32:32,229 --> 00:32:36,404 who didn't look as though, or sound as though, 621 00:32:36,429 --> 00:32:38,603 they were interested in romance. 622 00:32:38,628 --> 00:32:41,404 You look at this video, the performance, 623 00:32:41,429 --> 00:32:45,634 and Madonna, who was sexy on her previous stuff, 624 00:32:45,659 --> 00:32:49,044 suddenly becomes Madonna, who is sexual. 625 00:32:49,069 --> 00:32:50,764 And there's a big difference. 626 00:32:50,789 --> 00:32:55,204 Sexy is "Like me, and I'm pretty and I look great. Don't l?" 627 00:32:55,229 --> 00:32:58,284 Sexual is "l'm in control." 628 00:32:58,309 --> 00:33:00,534 # Like a virgin 629 00:33:00,559 --> 00:33:03,683 # Feels so good inside... # 630 00:33:03,708 --> 00:33:05,683 Like A Virgin was the first moment 631 00:33:05,708 --> 00:33:07,683 in the rise of the Madonna phenomenon 632 00:33:07,708 --> 00:33:11,404 that we see her using the shock value of unashamed sexuality 633 00:33:11,429 --> 00:33:14,404 and the power of controversy to create record sales, 634 00:33:14,429 --> 00:33:17,924 something she will continue to do across her career. 635 00:33:17,949 --> 00:33:19,634 I like to provoke people, 636 00:33:19,659 --> 00:33:21,603 but I don't think about the danger of it. 637 00:33:21,628 --> 00:33:24,924 And if there is a dangerous element, that's exciting to me. 638 00:33:24,949 --> 00:33:28,174 The single ruled supreme at the top of the billboard chart 639 00:33:28,199 --> 00:33:30,174 for a phenomenal six weeks. 640 00:33:30,199 --> 00:33:32,124 It was certified gold in the US 641 00:33:32,149 --> 00:33:35,044 and went on to be a massive worldwide hit. 642 00:33:35,069 --> 00:33:37,603 I think Madonna became a pop culture icon 643 00:33:37,628 --> 00:33:39,813 the moment Like A Virgin was released. 644 00:33:39,838 --> 00:33:41,534 As soon as that song hit the airwaves, 645 00:33:41,559 --> 00:33:43,964 there was no turning back. 646 00:33:43,989 --> 00:33:46,634 Like A Virgin took Madonna to the next level. 647 00:33:46,659 --> 00:33:49,094 The songwriters Steinberg and Kelly had helped her 648 00:33:49,119 --> 00:33:51,964 find the superstardom she'd always dreamed of. 649 00:33:51,989 --> 00:33:54,353 But when they saw her at a party sometime later, 650 00:33:54,378 --> 00:33:56,563 there was little appreciation. 651 00:33:56,588 --> 00:33:59,353 We see at the other end of the terrace, 652 00:33:59,378 --> 00:34:01,654 Madonna walking out of the house... 653 00:34:02,858 --> 00:34:04,373 ...towards us. 654 00:34:04,398 --> 00:34:07,864 And she was with Warren Beatty. 655 00:34:07,889 --> 00:34:09,703 And I thought to myself, 656 00:34:09,728 --> 00:34:11,623 "Well, this is the perfect opportunity 657 00:34:11,648 --> 00:34:13,784 "to meet Madonna finally." 658 00:34:13,809 --> 00:34:16,944 And a guy we knew said to Madonna, 659 00:34:16,969 --> 00:34:21,833 "Madonna, I would like you to meet Tom Kelly and Billy Steinberg, 660 00:34:21,858 --> 00:34:23,503 "who wrote Like A Virgin." 661 00:34:24,648 --> 00:34:26,833 And Warren Beatty started to laugh, 662 00:34:26,858 --> 00:34:30,833 and I think he was laughing because he thought, you know, 663 00:34:30,858 --> 00:34:34,373 "Of course she must know the guys that wrote Like A Virgin. 664 00:34:34,398 --> 00:34:37,064 "It must be some kind of a spoof." 665 00:34:37,089 --> 00:34:39,264 I stepped up and I said to Madonna... 666 00:34:40,778 --> 00:34:43,194 "l've wanted to meet you for so long." 667 00:34:44,858 --> 00:34:49,623 And she said to me, "Well, now you did." 668 00:34:49,648 --> 00:34:53,294 And she grabbed Warren Beatty and walked off. 669 00:34:53,319 --> 00:34:57,801 So she wasn't particularly cordial, shall we say. 670 00:34:57,826 --> 00:34:59,272 # Material girl... 671 00:34:59,297 --> 00:35:01,732 As was the case from the beginning of her career, 672 00:35:01,757 --> 00:35:04,732 Madonna's eyes were fixed only on the future. 673 00:35:04,757 --> 00:35:06,562 And her next incarnation - 674 00:35:06,587 --> 00:35:08,963 recalling Hollywood's ultimate blonde bombshell 675 00:35:08,988 --> 00:35:11,173 and featuring a song and iconic video 676 00:35:11,198 --> 00:35:14,093 that would come to symbolise not just Madonna's pulling power, 677 00:35:14,118 --> 00:35:15,883 but a whole global decade - 678 00:35:15,908 --> 00:35:17,403 Material Girl. 679 00:35:17,428 --> 00:35:20,323 # And I am a material girl... # 680 00:35:28,358 --> 00:35:31,103 The mid 1980s saw free market economics 681 00:35:31,128 --> 00:35:33,133 sweep across the West. 682 00:35:38,627 --> 00:35:42,923 Britain is confident, strong and trusted. 683 00:35:42,948 --> 00:35:46,533 In the booming financial centres of New York and London, 684 00:35:46,558 --> 00:35:50,133 fortunes were made fast and spent even faster. 685 00:35:50,158 --> 00:35:53,773 For the lucky ones, the consumption had never been more conspicuous. 686 00:35:53,798 --> 00:35:55,492 This was the Ronald Reagan era. 687 00:35:55,517 --> 00:35:56,923 Greed is good. 688 00:35:56,948 --> 00:35:58,643 Dynasty is huge on TV. 689 00:35:58,668 --> 00:36:00,893 Everyone's into more, more, more. 690 00:36:00,918 --> 00:36:05,133 In America, 1985 was all about big hair, big shoulder pads, 691 00:36:05,158 --> 00:36:08,253 big wallet, all that kind of thing. 692 00:36:08,278 --> 00:36:11,103 The new era demanded its own soundtrack, 693 00:36:11,128 --> 00:36:12,893 and Madonna was the one to provide it, 694 00:36:12,918 --> 00:36:16,453 with a song that would finally cement her superstar status. 695 00:36:17,717 --> 00:36:19,492 # Some boys kiss me 696 00:36:19,517 --> 00:36:21,283 # Some boys hug me 697 00:36:21,308 --> 00:36:23,773 # I think they're OK... # 698 00:36:23,798 --> 00:36:26,773 If there was ever a song that summed up an artist, 699 00:36:26,798 --> 00:36:30,973 that captured an attitude of the time, 700 00:36:30,998 --> 00:36:32,253 that was her moment. 701 00:36:32,278 --> 00:36:35,742 # Cos we are living in a material world 702 00:36:35,767 --> 00:36:38,923 # And I am a material girl... 703 00:36:38,948 --> 00:36:41,203 Material Girl saw Madonna reunite 704 00:36:41,228 --> 00:36:43,413 with production genius Nile Rogers. 705 00:36:43,438 --> 00:36:45,562 Right on the one there. Give me a nice fall off. 706 00:36:45,587 --> 00:36:46,843 HE VOCALISES 707 00:36:46,868 --> 00:36:49,663 And to help him create another irresistibly catchy hit, 708 00:36:49,688 --> 00:36:52,663 he brought in one of his most trusted backing artists. 709 00:36:52,688 --> 00:36:54,253 # They're OK OK 710 00:36:54,278 --> 00:36:57,843 # If they don't give me proper credit 711 00:36:57,868 --> 00:37:00,612 # I just walk away... HE VOCALISES 712 00:37:36,278 --> 00:37:39,023 Nile has a great atmosphere around him. 713 00:37:39,048 --> 00:37:41,453 And Madonna was very involved as well. 714 00:37:41,478 --> 00:37:43,253 You saw when you just sat in the studio 715 00:37:43,278 --> 00:37:44,663 that she had an opinion. 716 00:37:44,688 --> 00:37:46,742 She wasn't the produced act. 717 00:37:46,767 --> 00:37:48,973 She was certainly learning the craft. 718 00:37:48,998 --> 00:37:50,203 And she does everything - 719 00:37:50,228 --> 00:37:53,383 she looks at other people, she soaks it all in. 720 00:37:53,408 --> 00:37:55,023 Nile is so giving. 721 00:37:55,048 --> 00:37:57,023 She was absorbing. 722 00:37:57,048 --> 00:37:58,973 Despite her new-found stardom, 723 00:37:58,998 --> 00:38:01,283 Madonna's vocals were still developing, 724 00:38:01,308 --> 00:38:04,843 and for this track Rodgers knew she needed help. 725 00:38:28,198 --> 00:38:30,843 I wouldn't say that she actually fully discovered 726 00:38:30,868 --> 00:38:32,333 her voice until later. 727 00:38:32,358 --> 00:38:34,253 Over this period of time, 728 00:38:34,278 --> 00:38:37,773 What Madonna did is she found her sound. 729 00:38:37,798 --> 00:38:39,133 She reinforced it. 730 00:38:39,158 --> 00:38:40,482 She imprinted it. 731 00:38:40,507 --> 00:38:44,053 And when people criticised it, she gave them more of it. 732 00:38:46,558 --> 00:38:47,893 # You know that we are... 733 00:38:53,688 --> 00:38:55,923 It was the song's distinct lyrical pattern 734 00:38:55,948 --> 00:38:58,203 that made it such a challenge for the singer. 735 00:38:58,228 --> 00:39:01,533 Material Girl has a lot of beeps, blips and bloops, 736 00:39:01,558 --> 00:39:04,413 and it kind of chugs along in an electronic fashion. 737 00:39:04,438 --> 00:39:07,133 There's these like robot men. 738 00:39:13,967 --> 00:39:15,612 It's playful, it's boppy, 739 00:39:15,637 --> 00:39:18,333 but it's also relentless at the same time. 740 00:39:18,358 --> 00:39:21,453 A little bit like Madonna herself. 741 00:39:21,478 --> 00:39:23,663 Despite needing help with her vocals, 742 00:39:23,688 --> 00:39:26,663 Madonna, true to form, made sure everyone in the studio 743 00:39:26,688 --> 00:39:27,843 knew that place. 744 00:39:45,478 --> 00:39:47,173 But by the end of the session, 745 00:39:47,198 --> 00:39:51,023 she and everyone else knew they had another hit on their hands. 746 00:40:05,358 --> 00:40:08,492 With the recording complete, it now had to be promoted. 747 00:40:08,517 --> 00:40:11,622 For the video, featuring big name actor Keith Carradine, 748 00:40:11,647 --> 00:40:14,622 Madonna chose to pay tribute to fellow blonde bombshell 749 00:40:14,647 --> 00:40:16,901 of yesteryear, Marilyn Monroe. 750 00:40:16,926 --> 00:40:22,132 She would be taking on one of her most iconic 1950s performances, 751 00:40:22,157 --> 00:40:24,982 and with it her characteristics and costume 752 00:40:25,007 --> 00:40:29,932 from the American musical comedy, Gentlemen Prefer Blondes. 753 00:40:29,957 --> 00:40:31,901 I didn't know her personally, but I admire her. 754 00:40:31,926 --> 00:40:33,082 She's an idol. 755 00:40:34,877 --> 00:40:36,521 Definitely, yeah. 756 00:40:36,546 --> 00:40:39,492 Mary Lambert, the director of Material Girl, 757 00:40:39,517 --> 00:40:44,732 really did a fine job of recreating Gentlemen Prefer Blinds. 758 00:40:44,757 --> 00:40:47,132 You know, the Diamonds Are A Girl's Best Friend scene? 759 00:40:51,517 --> 00:40:55,132 Any time you are dressing up like another performer, 760 00:40:55,157 --> 00:40:57,132 especially someone as iconic as Marilyn Monroe, 761 00:40:57,157 --> 00:40:58,622 it's kind of embarrassing at times 762 00:40:58,647 --> 00:41:02,901 because the original swallows up the imitator. 763 00:41:02,926 --> 00:41:05,852 But I think Madonna had such a supreme confidence 764 00:41:05,877 --> 00:41:08,901 that she's able to take Marilyn Monroe 765 00:41:08,926 --> 00:41:11,292 and use her for her own purposes 766 00:41:11,317 --> 00:41:13,212 in a way that respects Marilyn Monroe 767 00:41:13,237 --> 00:41:15,932 but that leaves Madonna herself intact. 768 00:41:17,287 --> 00:41:18,852 # Some boys kiss me 769 00:41:18,877 --> 00:41:20,651 # Some boys hug me... # 770 00:41:20,676 --> 00:41:24,082 For many, Material Girl was a wholesale celebration 771 00:41:24,107 --> 00:41:25,901 of '80s consumerism. 772 00:41:25,926 --> 00:41:29,852 But, as the video hinted, it was actually a subtle criticism. 773 00:41:39,397 --> 00:41:41,132 Yeah, he's still after me. 774 00:41:41,157 --> 00:41:43,372 He just gave me a necklace. 775 00:41:43,397 --> 00:41:45,802 I don't know, I think it's real diamonds. 776 00:42:01,747 --> 00:42:03,722 Her message may have been misunderstood, 777 00:42:03,747 --> 00:42:05,972 but at the time it didn't matter. 778 00:42:05,997 --> 00:42:10,262 Material Girl's success put Madonna exactly where she wanted to be. 779 00:42:10,287 --> 00:42:14,292 She started the year in 1985 as a rising star. 780 00:42:14,317 --> 00:42:19,132 She ended 1985 as the biggest female artist in the world. 781 00:42:19,157 --> 00:42:24,852 And this - this video, this song - was the moment when we knew 782 00:42:24,877 --> 00:42:26,262 this was happening. 783 00:42:26,287 --> 00:42:31,152 It cemented her as a force to be reckoned with. 784 00:42:31,177 --> 00:42:33,461 You understood that she was a juggernaut. 785 00:42:33,486 --> 00:42:35,152 # Get into the grove... 786 00:42:35,177 --> 00:42:37,742 Madonna was now officially a megastar, 787 00:42:37,767 --> 00:42:40,591 and that year would go on to release several more singles 788 00:42:40,616 --> 00:42:43,102 from her Like A Virgin album, all of which entered 789 00:42:43,127 --> 00:42:45,642 the US Billboard chart top five. 790 00:42:45,667 --> 00:42:48,282 Musical success was followed by movie success, 791 00:42:48,307 --> 00:42:50,312 as she co-starred in the particularly acclaimed 792 00:42:50,337 --> 00:42:53,642 1985 comedy drama Desperately Seeking Susan. 793 00:42:53,667 --> 00:42:56,791 And to cap the then most eventful year of her life, 794 00:42:56,816 --> 00:42:58,711 she married Hollywood actor Sean Penn 795 00:42:58,736 --> 00:43:00,711 on her 27th birthday. 796 00:43:00,736 --> 00:43:03,822 Madonna created a whole new way to be a celebrity, 797 00:43:03,847 --> 00:43:09,512 and especially to be a young female famous person. 798 00:43:17,407 --> 00:43:20,312 Madonna actually tore up the old book of rules 799 00:43:20,337 --> 00:43:22,992 that said a female artist had to be demure, 800 00:43:23,017 --> 00:43:26,822 had to at least appear to not be in charge. 801 00:43:30,407 --> 00:43:32,032 And there's something really inspiring 802 00:43:32,057 --> 00:43:34,512 and empowering about that. 803 00:43:34,537 --> 00:43:38,282 Madonna had started her career as a broke dance school dropout 804 00:43:38,307 --> 00:43:40,072 on the streets of New York. 805 00:43:40,097 --> 00:43:42,512 And with just three songs in three years, 806 00:43:42,537 --> 00:43:45,562 she had become a cultural icon who defined a generation. 807 00:43:45,587 --> 00:43:48,102 # Holiday... # 808 00:43:48,127 --> 00:43:51,512 Early '80s Madonna kind of sums up, for me, 809 00:43:51,537 --> 00:43:53,461 some of the best things about the '80s. 810 00:43:53,486 --> 00:43:55,382 # Your so fine 811 00:43:55,407 --> 00:43:57,232 # And you're mine... # 812 00:43:57,257 --> 00:44:00,711 She presumed that success would be hers, you know? 813 00:44:00,736 --> 00:44:02,432 And that's a very '80s idea, 814 00:44:02,457 --> 00:44:06,791 that even if you start out with certain limitations 815 00:44:06,816 --> 00:44:08,952 and inadequacies, you can overcome them. 816 00:44:08,977 --> 00:44:10,952 So she embodies that. 817 00:44:10,977 --> 00:44:12,382 # Material... 818 00:44:15,057 --> 00:44:17,632 That was her revolution. That's what she brought. 819 00:44:17,657 --> 00:44:20,711 And I think she's really the first modern pop superstar 820 00:44:20,736 --> 00:44:22,312 for that reason. 821 00:44:22,337 --> 00:44:26,102 In 1982, Madonna was unknown but up-and-coming. 822 00:44:26,127 --> 00:44:29,461 By 1985, there wasn't anywhere you could go in the world 823 00:44:29,486 --> 00:44:31,232 where people hadn't held of Madonna. 824 00:44:31,257 --> 00:44:34,872 In three years, she transformed not just her career, 825 00:44:34,897 --> 00:44:36,872 but she transformed pop. 826 00:44:36,897 --> 00:44:38,461 # Material. # 827 00:44:56,297 --> 00:44:59,352 Subtitles by Red Bee Media 65647

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