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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,913 --> 00:00:14,057 [ Music ] 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 4 00:00:14,057 --> 00:00:15,624 Every day, children all 5 00:00:15,624 --> 00:00:23,284 across America wake up and go to school. 6 00:00:23,284 --> 00:00:27,897 It's something most of us have done. 7 00:00:27,897 --> 00:00:32,075 It's something most of our parents have done. 8 00:00:32,075 --> 00:00:36,079 We go to school to learn. 9 00:00:36,079 --> 00:00:39,126 To be educated. 10 00:00:39,126 --> 00:00:42,390 To become good citizens of the world. 11 00:00:42,390 --> 00:00:45,045 But is it still working? 12 00:00:45,045 --> 00:00:46,568 The nature of the school itself, 13 00:00:46,568 --> 00:00:49,049 it's this thing that's removed. 14 00:00:49,049 --> 00:00:51,268 It's an institution, it's bureaucratic 15 00:00:51,268 --> 00:00:54,489 and I don't necessarily think that it is capable of education. 16 00:00:54,489 --> 00:00:59,059 Because it can't embrace everyone's needs. 17 00:00:59,059 --> 00:01:02,062 Are schools keeping up with the times? 18 00:01:02,062 --> 00:01:05,543 We need to embrace the fact that there's technology. 19 00:01:05,543 --> 00:01:08,198 That the role of the teacher needs to change dramatically. 20 00:01:08,198 --> 00:01:10,331 In a world where I can pull out my smart phone 21 00:01:10,331 --> 00:01:11,984 and Google anything I want. 22 00:01:11,984 --> 00:01:14,161 I don't need to have a teacher telling me facts. 23 00:01:14,161 --> 00:01:18,513 What I need is a guide helping me to apply that knowledge. 24 00:01:18,513 --> 00:01:22,038 Most of us have been indoctrinated to believe 25 00:01:22,038 --> 00:01:24,345 that schools are natural. 26 00:01:24,345 --> 00:01:29,176 It's like, how can you learn if you don't go to school? 27 00:01:29,176 --> 00:01:32,744 The idea that kids are this entire human being 28 00:01:32,744 --> 00:01:35,007 and are interacting with the world. 29 00:01:35,007 --> 00:01:37,053 Not just a teacher in a classroom, 30 00:01:37,053 --> 00:01:39,490 is still new to so many adults. 31 00:01:39,490 --> 00:01:42,276 Learning is not the result of teaching. 32 00:01:42,276 --> 00:01:47,107 Learning is the result of the activity of learners. 33 00:01:47,107 --> 00:01:49,239 We're just completely trapped in this idea 34 00:01:49,239 --> 00:01:52,764 that children only learn if they're taught. 35 00:01:52,764 --> 00:01:54,636 In ancient times when we were born, 36 00:01:54,636 --> 00:01:56,507 we came into the world, we just lived. 37 00:01:56,507 --> 00:01:59,771 We lived and learned, and the two weren't separated. 38 00:01:59,771 --> 00:02:06,430 Living and learning are the exact same thing. 39 00:02:06,430 --> 00:02:09,346 There are two essential ways of looking 40 00:02:09,346 --> 00:02:12,523 at the way children learn. 41 00:02:12,523 --> 00:02:16,614 One of them is that you have to force them to learn. 42 00:02:16,614 --> 00:02:18,268 I tell you right now, that unless you get 43 00:02:18,268 --> 00:02:20,096 over your lazy habits. 44 00:02:20,096 --> 00:02:22,881 Come up to the standards I've set for this class. 45 00:02:22,881 --> 00:02:24,231 Many of you will have the pleasure 46 00:02:24,231 --> 00:02:26,102 of repeating this course next semester. 47 00:02:26,102 --> 00:02:29,888 The other one is that children are natural learners. 48 00:02:29,888 --> 00:02:34,241 If you accept the idea that they're natural learners, 49 00:02:34,241 --> 00:02:36,243 then we're not talking about reform. 50 00:02:36,243 --> 00:02:40,116 We're talking about an entirely different way 51 00:02:40,116 --> 00:03:05,097 of approaching things. 52 00:03:05,097 --> 00:03:07,143 [ Alarm Clock ] 53 00:03:07,143 --> 00:03:10,102 Ana, It's time to get up. 54 00:03:10,102 --> 00:03:12,453 I've never liked waking up early. 55 00:03:12,453 --> 00:03:15,020 Or not being able to do things in the morning. 56 00:03:15,020 --> 00:03:17,806 Lily, it's time to get up, sweetie. 57 00:03:17,806 --> 00:03:20,635 School's like something that I always dread going to. 58 00:03:20,635 --> 00:03:23,551 Because you're going to be stuck in a classroom, 59 00:03:23,551 --> 00:03:27,076 sitting there for hours and hours. 60 00:03:27,076 --> 00:03:28,033 Ana, are you ready? 61 00:03:28,033 --> 00:03:30,035 We're going to be late! 62 00:03:30,035 --> 00:03:31,167 School's about to start. 63 00:03:31,167 --> 00:03:32,168 Have you eaten anything? 64 00:03:32,168 --> 00:03:33,648 No. 65 00:03:33,648 --> 00:03:34,605 You don't have time for breakfast. 66 00:03:34,605 --> 00:03:35,911 I'll make you some toast. 67 00:03:35,911 --> 00:03:36,433 We have to leave in like two minutes. 68 00:03:36,433 --> 00:03:40,481 Mom. 69 00:03:40,481 --> 00:03:44,136 Lily, how about you? 70 00:03:44,136 --> 00:03:46,313 Do you think you should have had this done last night? 71 00:03:46,313 --> 00:03:47,227 No. 72 00:03:47,227 --> 00:03:48,619 Go put your shoes on. 73 00:03:48,619 --> 00:03:56,192 You're going to have to finish that at school. 74 00:03:56,192 --> 00:04:00,196 Mom! 75 00:04:00,196 --> 00:04:01,328 Here's your breakfast Ana. 76 00:04:01,328 --> 00:04:09,336 Toast and water. 77 00:04:09,336 --> 00:04:11,512 When we moved to Los Angeles we did a lot of research 78 00:04:11,512 --> 00:04:13,296 about where the best schools were. 79 00:04:13,296 --> 00:04:15,777 And we moved to the town that we're in, because it had some 80 00:04:15,777 --> 00:04:18,258 of the best schools in the state. 81 00:04:18,258 --> 00:04:20,434 It's a lot more expensive to live in this little town, 82 00:04:20,434 --> 00:04:22,610 than we could've gotten in outlying communities. 83 00:04:22,610 --> 00:04:31,053 But the education was really important to us. 84 00:04:31,053 --> 00:04:33,360 Well, the thing about school is, basically you go to school. 85 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,666 And you can hang out with your friends for five minutes. 86 00:04:35,666 --> 00:04:38,234 And then the bell rings and you go to class. 87 00:04:38,234 --> 00:04:40,367 You read out of the textbook. 88 00:04:40,367 --> 00:04:42,847 You answer questions in your workbook. 89 00:04:42,847 --> 00:04:46,111 And then you take a test on it. 90 00:04:46,111 --> 00:04:49,550 And it's basically the same thing every single day. 91 00:04:49,550 --> 00:04:51,029 Like, there's nothing different. 92 00:04:51,029 --> 00:04:59,124 You just get sick of it. 93 00:04:59,124 --> 00:05:01,170 I love the idea of school. 94 00:05:01,170 --> 00:05:04,086 It's a great concept, in theory. 95 00:05:04,086 --> 00:05:07,698 We're all going to go and learn about important things. 96 00:05:07,698 --> 00:05:09,439 But the truth was, there wasn't a lot 97 00:05:09,439 --> 00:05:18,187 of learning that was going on. 98 00:05:18,187 --> 00:05:19,928 The biggest challenge 99 00:05:19,928 --> 00:05:22,452 that public education is facing today is doing things the same 100 00:05:22,452 --> 00:05:23,801 old way. 101 00:05:23,801 --> 00:05:25,499 We're kind of tinkering around the edges. 102 00:05:25,499 --> 00:05:27,588 Changing things here and there. 103 00:05:27,588 --> 00:05:33,333 But we really need a dramatic shift in what happens in school. 104 00:05:33,333 --> 00:05:36,466 We don't need to have everyone come together at the same time, 105 00:05:36,466 --> 00:05:40,035 at the same place, to hear a lecture. 106 00:05:40,035 --> 00:05:41,384 Kids should be able to move 107 00:05:41,384 --> 00:05:43,081 at different rates, at different times. 108 00:05:43,081 --> 00:05:45,780 And there's really no need for us to continue grouping kids 109 00:05:45,780 --> 00:05:47,608 by date of manufacture. 110 00:05:47,608 --> 00:05:51,002 Kids should be grouped by what they learn, what they love, 111 00:05:51,002 --> 00:05:52,787 at the rate they learn and love. 112 00:05:52,787 --> 00:05:55,572 Allowing children to follow their natural curiosity is a 113 00:05:55,572 --> 00:05:58,140 concept that threatens long-held beliefs 114 00:05:58,140 --> 00:06:03,101 about how children's education should be tracked. 115 00:06:03,101 --> 00:06:05,800 I understand taking tests aren't fun. 116 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,237 Too bad [laughter]. 117 00:06:08,237 --> 00:06:09,978 We need to know in America. 118 00:06:09,978 --> 00:06:11,371 We need to know whether 119 00:06:11,371 --> 00:06:13,547 or not children have got the basic education. 120 00:06:13,547 --> 00:06:16,071 On January the 8th, 2002, 121 00:06:16,071 --> 00:06:18,465 then President George W. Bush signed, 122 00:06:18,465 --> 00:06:21,119 No Child Left Behind, into law. 123 00:06:21,119 --> 00:06:24,427 Which imposed frequent standardized testing on students 124 00:06:24,427 --> 00:06:27,996 as a means of measuring every one of them. 125 00:06:27,996 --> 00:06:31,086 NCLB stated that by 2014, 126 00:06:31,086 --> 00:06:34,916 100% of students must perform at grade level. 127 00:06:34,916 --> 00:06:39,616 When the first incarnation of No Child Left Behind came out. 128 00:06:39,616 --> 00:06:42,489 I said, okay, well, this will be like the other ones. 129 00:06:42,489 --> 00:06:45,056 It'll kind of go over two or three years. 130 00:06:45,056 --> 00:06:47,624 And people will realize it's a stupid idea, 131 00:06:47,624 --> 00:06:49,757 and it will go away. 132 00:06:49,757 --> 00:06:53,630 And now, a dozen years have gone by, or more. 133 00:06:53,630 --> 00:06:57,068 And it's still there. 134 00:06:57,068 --> 00:06:59,810 A decade of evidence shows that NCLB has failed miserably. 135 00:06:59,810 --> 00:07:03,423 It has neither significantly increased academic performance, 136 00:07:03,423 --> 00:07:05,294 nor reduced achievement gaps. 137 00:07:05,294 --> 00:07:07,775 Even as measured by standardized exams. 138 00:07:07,775 --> 00:07:11,953 And so-called reforms, such as the recently adopted Common 139 00:07:11,953 --> 00:07:13,215 Core Standards. 140 00:07:13,215 --> 00:07:15,043 Have turned many schools into little more 141 00:07:15,043 --> 00:07:19,047 than test preparation factories. 142 00:07:19,047 --> 00:07:21,876 The greatest obstacle to reforming Ed. 143 00:07:21,876 --> 00:07:24,574 is the testing, really. 144 00:07:24,574 --> 00:07:27,795 It's impossible in the current climate, 145 00:07:27,795 --> 00:07:30,885 to engage in innovative practices. 146 00:07:30,885 --> 00:07:35,324 When everyone is pushed to the same standard, which is measured 147 00:07:35,324 --> 00:07:38,066 in the same way by outdated tests. 148 00:07:38,066 --> 00:07:40,982 And we talk about differentiating instruction. 149 00:07:40,982 --> 00:07:44,986 Yet we have a one-size-fits all standardized test. 150 00:07:44,986 --> 00:07:47,162 I just find it shocking that we live 151 00:07:47,162 --> 00:07:49,991 in a country that's imposing something upon children. 152 00:07:49,991 --> 00:07:52,472 That educators know is wrong. 153 00:07:52,472 --> 00:07:53,516 Parents know is wrong. 154 00:07:53,516 --> 00:07:54,778 Children know is wrong. 155 00:07:54,778 --> 00:07:56,606 Even our president knows it's wrong. 156 00:07:56,606 --> 00:08:03,047 Yet we're still doing it. 157 00:08:03,047 --> 00:08:07,356 I went through public education like most of us. 158 00:08:07,356 --> 00:08:09,750 And I really struggled through it. 159 00:08:09,750 --> 00:08:12,013 I mean, I'm a creative type. 160 00:08:12,013 --> 00:08:13,754 I got in trouble in school a lot. 161 00:08:13,754 --> 00:08:17,192 I mean, while other people were doing their normal school work, 162 00:08:17,192 --> 00:08:19,586 I was drawing. 163 00:08:19,586 --> 00:08:22,284 One time, there was a timed math test. 164 00:08:22,284 --> 00:08:24,808 And I had some drawings I wanted to do. 165 00:08:24,808 --> 00:08:26,593 So I drew all over my test. 166 00:08:26,593 --> 00:08:30,379 And I just got in so much trouble because, you know, 167 00:08:30,379 --> 00:08:36,037 I should be doing math, it was math time. 168 00:08:36,037 --> 00:08:39,170 Our kids just come home grumpy, over-worked. 169 00:08:39,170 --> 00:08:42,696 And the craziest amount of busy-homework. 170 00:08:42,696 --> 00:08:45,699 I actually told -- I got in a little trouble for this. 171 00:08:45,699 --> 00:08:49,529 But, I told them to quit doing their homework. 172 00:08:49,529 --> 00:08:56,274 It was really just busy work. 173 00:08:56,274 --> 00:08:59,756 We take children at their most productive time. 174 00:08:59,756 --> 00:09:02,106 When they are so creative. 175 00:09:02,106 --> 00:09:05,806 When they have incredible imaginations. 176 00:09:05,806 --> 00:09:08,243 When they are even visionary. 177 00:09:08,243 --> 00:09:10,071 They can see the possibilities. 178 00:09:10,071 --> 00:09:11,725 Kids can do that. 179 00:09:11,725 --> 00:09:13,727 And we take them and when we institutionalize them 180 00:09:13,727 --> 00:09:15,076 and tell them they have 181 00:09:15,076 --> 00:09:16,773 to do standardized curriculum all day long. 182 00:09:16,773 --> 00:09:18,645 It makes them angry. 183 00:09:18,645 --> 00:09:20,472 You know, and then we have these angry young people 184 00:09:20,472 --> 00:09:21,952 running around. 185 00:09:21,952 --> 00:09:24,651 You know, because they're not allowed to blossom. 186 00:09:24,651 --> 00:09:28,176 We need to really question what we're doing there. 187 00:09:28,176 --> 00:09:31,309 Because I think kids could solve a lot of our problems. 188 00:09:31,309 --> 00:09:34,486 If we just believed in their ability and talent to do it. 189 00:09:34,486 --> 00:09:44,105 And if we just supported them. 190 00:09:44,105 --> 00:09:45,149 Hi Daddy. 191 00:09:45,149 --> 00:09:48,152 Hi. 192 00:09:48,152 --> 00:09:49,153 How are you? 193 00:09:49,153 --> 00:09:51,721 Good. Long time, no see. 194 00:09:51,721 --> 00:09:55,116 Yeah. I usually have Ana and Lily on the weekends. 195 00:09:55,116 --> 00:09:56,813 They spend time here. 196 00:09:56,813 --> 00:09:58,162 They've helped me out a lot. 197 00:09:58,162 --> 00:09:59,990 Like, just putting things back in folders, 198 00:09:59,990 --> 00:10:03,864 or running things around the office. 199 00:10:03,864 --> 00:10:05,169 So what are you looking for right there? 200 00:10:05,169 --> 00:10:10,218 It's chart number 42738. 201 00:10:10,218 --> 00:10:12,220 I remember being really excited about school. 202 00:10:12,220 --> 00:10:13,743 And being really excited to like, 203 00:10:13,743 --> 00:10:16,485 go through those same passages, or whatever. 204 00:10:16,485 --> 00:10:18,705 That my brothers and sisters had gone through. 205 00:10:18,705 --> 00:10:20,707 But I think I liked the social aspect a lot better 206 00:10:20,707 --> 00:10:22,796 than the actual sit down and write a story 207 00:10:22,796 --> 00:10:25,886 or read a book aspect of it. 208 00:10:25,886 --> 00:10:31,543 But, I remember enjoying school a lot. 209 00:10:31,543 --> 00:10:33,023 What homework are you working on? 210 00:10:33,023 --> 00:10:36,026 Something. 211 00:10:36,026 --> 00:10:39,203 Do you have to have a square for it? 212 00:10:39,203 --> 00:10:43,425 She was so excited to learn when she was little. 213 00:10:43,425 --> 00:10:47,211 And I've seen it plummet over the last year or two. 214 00:10:47,211 --> 00:10:51,041 Just not interested anymore. 215 00:10:51,041 --> 00:10:52,564 Not interested in the same things 216 00:10:52,564 --> 00:10:54,262 that she had been when she was younger. 217 00:10:54,262 --> 00:10:56,525 Not interested in the new things that were being introduced. 218 00:10:56,525 --> 00:11:10,321 It just, she just wasn't excited about it. 219 00:11:10,321 --> 00:11:12,410 How was school today? 220 00:11:12,410 --> 00:11:15,109 School. 221 00:11:15,109 --> 00:11:16,763 Some people were being annoying. 222 00:11:16,763 --> 00:11:20,462 One day on the way home from school, Ana said, "Mom, 223 00:11:20,462 --> 00:11:26,033 can I please be homeschooled?" 224 00:11:26,033 --> 00:11:27,425 And my heart stopped. 225 00:11:27,425 --> 00:11:30,428 Like, I didn't even know where it came from. 226 00:11:30,428 --> 00:11:33,475 I feel like I'm not getting as high of scores. 227 00:11:33,475 --> 00:11:38,741 And it's not as interesting anymore. 228 00:11:38,741 --> 00:11:40,308 It really made me start to think 229 00:11:40,308 --> 00:11:42,440 and question what we were doing. 230 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:47,315 And made me wonder about what other alternatives there were. 231 00:11:47,315 --> 00:11:50,927 I knew a few people that homeschooled. 232 00:11:50,927 --> 00:11:52,624 But I was not going to go that route. 233 00:11:52,624 --> 00:11:56,977 Do you think it's possible to enjoy school 234 00:11:56,977 --> 00:11:59,457 with a different attitude about it? 235 00:11:59,457 --> 00:12:04,419 Do you think there are some people who do enjoy school? 236 00:12:04,419 --> 00:12:07,335 Yeah. 237 00:12:07,335 --> 00:12:10,512 Are they doing something different than you're doing? 238 00:12:10,512 --> 00:12:12,340 I don't know. 239 00:12:12,340 --> 00:12:14,037 And there was part of me that thought, 240 00:12:14,037 --> 00:12:17,301 every kid in America has to do these hard things every day. 241 00:12:17,301 --> 00:12:18,346 Go to school. 242 00:12:18,346 --> 00:12:19,651 Why do you get to be different? 243 00:12:19,651 --> 00:12:25,527 Can you just think about it? 244 00:12:25,527 --> 00:12:33,013 Yeah, I can think about it. 245 00:12:33,013 --> 00:12:36,059 I started to seriously discuss with Thomas and Todd, 246 00:12:36,059 --> 00:12:44,067 the possibility of pulling the girls out of school. 247 00:12:44,067 --> 00:12:45,547 I thought, you know I'm not going to do anything rash. 248 00:12:45,547 --> 00:12:48,768 I'll go talk to the principal. 249 00:12:48,768 --> 00:12:50,857 So we went in there and we told her our concerns. 250 00:12:50,857 --> 00:12:52,380 And you got to understand too, 251 00:12:52,380 --> 00:12:54,556 this is one of the best public schools. 252 00:12:54,556 --> 00:12:57,515 We actually picked El Segundo because, like, 253 00:12:57,515 --> 00:12:59,996 the public schools are considerably better 254 00:12:59,996 --> 00:13:02,520 than other schools in the L.A. area. 255 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:04,218 So I just talked to her about this whole laundry list 256 00:13:04,218 --> 00:13:05,828 of concerns that I had. 257 00:13:05,828 --> 00:13:08,135 And told her that I was considering some possibilities. 258 00:13:08,135 --> 00:13:11,225 So we're in this meeting, and she was a little shocked. 259 00:13:11,225 --> 00:13:14,576 Because she's like, hold on, this is the best we have. 260 00:13:14,576 --> 00:13:17,535 And you're like, and you're saying it's not good enough. 261 00:13:17,535 --> 00:13:19,886 And that's what we were saying. 262 00:13:19,886 --> 00:13:22,323 My kids don't know where they're going. 263 00:13:22,323 --> 00:13:23,541 They're not enjoying learning. 264 00:13:23,541 --> 00:13:31,375 I mean, kids love to learn. 265 00:13:31,375 --> 00:13:33,551 She agreed that there are a lot of problems 266 00:13:33,551 --> 00:13:34,814 within the public school system. 267 00:13:34,814 --> 00:13:36,424 But it's an old institution. 268 00:13:36,424 --> 00:13:39,209 And they're working to make changes to make it better. 269 00:13:39,209 --> 00:13:40,689 But, they're not going to happen overnight. 270 00:13:40,689 --> 00:13:42,734 We're talking about our kids' lives here. 271 00:13:42,734 --> 00:13:44,867 We cannot wait for you guys. 272 00:13:44,867 --> 00:13:48,305 We can't wait for you guys to get it together. 273 00:13:48,305 --> 00:13:52,309 She told me that if she could wave a magic wand 274 00:13:52,309 --> 00:13:54,529 and make everything all better, she would. 275 00:13:54,529 --> 00:13:57,184 We both really appreciated everything she had to say. 276 00:13:57,184 --> 00:14:00,317 There was one little sentence in there though. 277 00:14:00,317 --> 00:14:06,106 She told me she absolutely does not recommend homeschooling. 278 00:14:06,106 --> 00:14:08,543 And that caught me. 279 00:14:08,543 --> 00:14:10,240 I was curious to know what her reason was. 280 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:13,330 But I didn't want it to influence my decision. 281 00:14:13,330 --> 00:14:29,085 So I didn't ask why. 282 00:14:29,085 --> 00:14:30,695 As we drove home from the meeting, 283 00:14:30,695 --> 00:14:32,959 I still wasn't really sure what we were going to do. 284 00:14:32,959 --> 00:14:36,353 And I was pretty terrified. 285 00:14:36,353 --> 00:14:38,181 Rejecting the system of education 286 00:14:38,181 --> 00:14:40,140 that most people consider fundamental 287 00:14:40,140 --> 00:14:43,491 to a child's intellectual, social, and civic development. 288 00:14:43,491 --> 00:14:46,450 Is a very difficult choice that more 289 00:14:46,450 --> 00:14:51,020 and more American parents are choosing to face. 290 00:14:51,020 --> 00:14:54,284 Well, I started out homeschooling my oldest. 291 00:14:54,284 --> 00:14:55,982 Because he really didn't fit 292 00:14:55,982 --> 00:14:59,115 into the public school system well, and was very unhappy. 293 00:14:59,115 --> 00:15:01,857 Which was really upsetting to me. 294 00:15:01,857 --> 00:15:04,555 I didn't understand how a kid that was so curious. 295 00:15:04,555 --> 00:15:08,603 And loved to learn so much, could be so miserable at school. 296 00:15:08,603 --> 00:15:13,042 And I just kind of out of desperation, pulled him out. 297 00:15:13,042 --> 00:15:16,306 I was told that they really couldn't help him 298 00:15:16,306 --> 00:15:17,742 for what his needs were. 299 00:15:17,742 --> 00:15:20,441 You know it seemed that he didn't fit the middle 300 00:15:20,441 --> 00:15:21,790 of the bell curve. 301 00:15:21,790 --> 00:15:24,619 You know, he would perform at both ends. 302 00:15:24,619 --> 00:15:28,057 And they weren't quite sure what to do with that. 303 00:15:28,057 --> 00:15:29,972 One of my favorite things is you get a lot 304 00:15:29,972 --> 00:15:31,756 of hands on learning. 305 00:15:31,756 --> 00:15:33,802 And you get to pick your learning styles. 306 00:15:33,802 --> 00:15:35,282 And you get to pick your classes. 307 00:15:35,282 --> 00:15:37,806 And you get to be a little bit more free 308 00:15:37,806 --> 00:15:39,851 than being in a school. 309 00:15:39,851 --> 00:15:41,244 He would go to school and it was 310 00:15:41,244 --> 00:15:43,029 like taking three steps back. 311 00:15:43,029 --> 00:15:47,381 But I was always tiptoeing, you know, around pulling him out. 312 00:15:47,381 --> 00:15:52,342 Even the third grade was, the third grade work was too easy. 313 00:15:52,342 --> 00:15:56,042 So then, I went to homeschool so I could get more hard math. 314 00:15:56,042 --> 00:15:58,827 So far he's loved it. 315 00:15:58,827 --> 00:16:00,829 One of the primary reasons that, you know, 316 00:16:00,829 --> 00:16:03,745 we chose to homeschool is. 317 00:16:03,745 --> 00:16:07,488 Do I want to send my kids off for half of their life? 318 00:16:07,488 --> 00:16:11,405 You know, their half of their awake life, with somebody else? 319 00:16:11,405 --> 00:16:13,755 See, that's the part that you lose. 320 00:16:13,755 --> 00:16:15,626 You lose that connection with your parent 321 00:16:15,626 --> 00:16:16,801 when you go to school. 322 00:16:16,801 --> 00:16:18,194 The parent loses it with the child 323 00:16:18,194 --> 00:16:19,891 and the child loses it with the parent. 324 00:16:19,891 --> 00:16:22,198 And where do you make it up? 325 00:16:22,198 --> 00:16:24,853 There was no way that I was going to put them in a system 326 00:16:24,853 --> 00:16:28,248 that I had seen failing children over and over again. 327 00:16:28,248 --> 00:16:32,078 So I decided to do it myself. 328 00:16:32,078 --> 00:16:36,343 You can create a customized situation that fits any family. 329 00:16:36,343 --> 00:16:37,735 I had to do it. 330 00:16:37,735 --> 00:16:38,519 And when I thought, oh, I can't homeschool. 331 00:16:38,519 --> 00:16:39,389 I'm a single mom. 332 00:16:39,389 --> 00:16:40,434 Like, that's impossible. 333 00:16:40,434 --> 00:16:42,262 How would I possibly do that? 334 00:16:42,262 --> 00:16:44,133 If you open up your mind a little bit, 335 00:16:44,133 --> 00:16:47,093 there's resources available to you and to your family. 336 00:16:47,093 --> 00:17:03,239 That you might not even know that you have. 337 00:17:03,239 --> 00:17:04,806 After Ana told me that she wasn't 338 00:17:04,806 --> 00:17:06,503 as a good of a student anymore. 339 00:17:06,503 --> 00:17:08,505 And I started considering the possibility of pulling them 340 00:17:08,505 --> 00:17:12,074 out of the school, something else happened. 341 00:17:12,074 --> 00:17:13,858 I hadn't finished some of my homework. 342 00:17:13,858 --> 00:17:15,556 So I got something called a homework alert. 343 00:17:15,556 --> 00:17:17,340 Basically, what homework alert is, 344 00:17:17,340 --> 00:17:18,559 is if you don't get it signed 345 00:17:18,559 --> 00:17:20,604 by the next day, you get a detention. 346 00:17:20,604 --> 00:17:22,519 Ana is such a good kid. 347 00:17:22,519 --> 00:17:25,348 She does not do anything wrong. 348 00:17:25,348 --> 00:17:27,872 She has never been in trouble in her whole life. 349 00:17:27,872 --> 00:17:29,439 I couldn't talk for a second. 350 00:17:29,439 --> 00:17:31,137 Like, I didn't want to talk, because I didn't want 351 00:17:31,137 --> 00:17:33,356 to run the risk of crying or anything. 352 00:17:33,356 --> 00:17:34,749 It broke my heart. 353 00:17:34,749 --> 00:17:37,926 And I just thought, she did the homework. 354 00:17:37,926 --> 00:17:39,710 She's supposed to do the homework 355 00:17:39,710 --> 00:17:41,277 to learn something, right? 356 00:17:41,277 --> 00:17:42,626 She forgot to turn it in. 357 00:17:42,626 --> 00:17:44,498 I get that. 358 00:17:44,498 --> 00:17:46,674 But the purpose of education is to learn. 359 00:17:46,674 --> 00:17:48,328 She learned what she was supposed to learn. 360 00:17:48,328 --> 00:17:49,938 She just didn't turn it in. 361 00:17:49,938 --> 00:17:51,461 And I actually wrote an email 362 00:17:51,461 --> 00:17:52,854 to the principal and to the teacher. 363 00:17:52,854 --> 00:17:55,161 And just said, do we really have to do this? 364 00:17:55,161 --> 00:17:57,337 And they both wrote back and said yes. 365 00:17:57,337 --> 00:18:00,818 What really struck, me was that the system of school, 366 00:18:00,818 --> 00:18:04,170 the bureaucracy of school, was really getting 367 00:18:04,170 --> 00:18:05,910 in the way of learning. 368 00:18:05,910 --> 00:18:09,131 Rachel, thank you very much for your insight and comments. 369 00:18:09,131 --> 00:18:11,568 I hear what you're saying, and I understand your frustration. 370 00:18:11,568 --> 00:18:13,875 That was one of the last nails in the coffin. 371 00:18:13,875 --> 00:18:18,488 I just thought, I don't think we buy into this anymore. 372 00:18:18,488 --> 00:18:21,274 [ Phone Ringing ] 373 00:18:21,274 --> 00:18:22,971 Hi there. I have a question for you. 374 00:18:22,971 --> 00:18:26,540 I need to un-enroll my kids from the school. 375 00:18:26,540 --> 00:18:28,455 Can you tell me what that process is? 376 00:18:28,455 --> 00:18:30,935 What I need to do? 377 00:18:30,935 --> 00:18:33,112 I was a little bit nervous, 378 00:18:33,112 --> 00:18:35,331 because I didn't know what we were going to do. 379 00:18:35,331 --> 00:18:41,294 It was like I kind of leapt before I looked. 380 00:18:41,294 --> 00:18:44,297 I had to turn in all their books and sign a couple of forms. 381 00:18:44,297 --> 00:18:46,603 And while I was there, I saw the principal 382 00:18:46,603 --> 00:18:47,561 out of the corner of my eye. 383 00:18:47,561 --> 00:18:50,041 And I was kind of nervous. 384 00:18:50,041 --> 00:18:52,000 Because I knew that, you know, 385 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:53,697 what her thoughts were about homeschooling. 386 00:18:53,697 --> 00:18:55,525 And she saw me and approached me. 387 00:18:55,525 --> 00:18:57,788 And asked, so what did you guys decide? 388 00:18:57,788 --> 00:18:59,181 What are you going to do? 389 00:18:59,181 --> 00:19:03,054 And I said, well, we're going to homeschool. 390 00:19:03,054 --> 00:19:04,360 She didn't say anything else, 391 00:19:04,360 --> 00:19:08,538 but her facial expression said everything. 392 00:19:08,538 --> 00:19:09,931 And then I left. 393 00:19:09,931 --> 00:19:11,237 Got in the car. 394 00:19:11,237 --> 00:19:18,157 We drove home, we were done with school. 395 00:19:18,157 --> 00:19:20,028 It was like, so liberating, you know. 396 00:19:20,028 --> 00:19:23,771 Like, we had discovered this little secret 397 00:19:23,771 --> 00:19:25,425 that no one else knew. 398 00:19:25,425 --> 00:19:29,080 That we didn't actually have to be compliant and obedient 399 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:35,043 to this system that wasn't serving us. 400 00:19:35,043 --> 00:19:37,437 The house crickets are part of the true crickets. 401 00:19:37,437 --> 00:19:39,656 Anyone know what those, that family is? 402 00:19:39,656 --> 00:19:41,354 There's nothing secret about homeschooling. 403 00:19:41,354 --> 00:19:44,357 It's been around for thousands of years. 404 00:19:44,357 --> 00:19:48,274 But it started regaining attention in the '60's. 405 00:19:48,274 --> 00:19:51,190 Babies come into the world extraordinarily curious, 406 00:19:51,190 --> 00:19:52,800 eager to learn. 407 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,890 Extraordinarily resourceful and competent at learning. 408 00:19:55,890 --> 00:19:58,458 That they are in the most literal sense 409 00:19:58,458 --> 00:19:59,676 of the word, scientists. 410 00:19:59,676 --> 00:20:02,288 They do exactly what scientists do. 411 00:20:02,288 --> 00:20:05,291 They use the scientific method in making sense 412 00:20:05,291 --> 00:20:06,553 of the world around them. 413 00:20:06,553 --> 00:20:08,990 And then they get to a certain age, 414 00:20:08,990 --> 00:20:10,687 which may be as young as three. 415 00:20:10,687 --> 00:20:12,646 But in any case, the age of school. 416 00:20:12,646 --> 00:20:15,301 And this process is turned off by adults 417 00:20:15,301 --> 00:20:18,347 who think they are now going to direct 418 00:20:18,347 --> 00:20:21,089 and control the learning of these children. 419 00:20:21,089 --> 00:20:23,657 They treat them like an empty receptacles 420 00:20:23,657 --> 00:20:25,311 into which they are going 421 00:20:25,311 --> 00:20:29,228 to pour whatever learning they think they ought to have. 422 00:20:29,228 --> 00:20:33,536 In 1964, John Holt, an Ivy League graduate and a teacher 423 00:20:33,536 --> 00:20:35,059 in alternative schools. 424 00:20:35,059 --> 00:20:38,324 Published his first book, "How Children Fail." 425 00:20:38,324 --> 00:20:40,195 In which he lays the blame for the failure 426 00:20:40,195 --> 00:20:45,418 of schoolchildren squarely on the compulsory school system. 427 00:20:45,418 --> 00:20:47,724 Not surprisingly, "How Children Fail" was 428 00:20:47,724 --> 00:20:49,552 extremely controversial. 429 00:20:49,552 --> 00:20:51,511 And John Holt was soon famous 430 00:20:51,511 --> 00:20:59,040 for rattling the American national consciousness. 431 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:00,607 Perhaps no one knows more about John Holt 432 00:21:00,607 --> 00:21:02,086 and his work than Pat Farenga. 433 00:21:02,086 --> 00:21:06,003 Here at his office in Boston, Massachusetts, 434 00:21:06,003 --> 00:21:08,615 Pat keeps John Holt's legacy alive. 435 00:21:08,615 --> 00:21:11,487 I got involved with John Holt in 1981. 436 00:21:11,487 --> 00:21:13,315 We were talking and then, you know, so he asked me. 437 00:21:13,315 --> 00:21:14,838 So what do you want to do with your life? 438 00:21:14,838 --> 00:21:17,319 And so, I told him, you know, the honest truth. 439 00:21:17,319 --> 00:21:19,190 Which was that I was thinking of being a teacher. 440 00:21:19,190 --> 00:21:20,670 And he said, why? 441 00:21:20,670 --> 00:21:22,411 And I said, because I like working with children. 442 00:21:22,411 --> 00:21:25,240 And he took his glasses off and he looked at me. 443 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,287 And he said, Pat, if you become a teacher, you're not going 444 00:21:28,287 --> 00:21:29,418 to work with children. 445 00:21:29,418 --> 00:21:31,899 You're going to work on children. 446 00:21:31,899 --> 00:21:34,075 And I couldn't believe it. 447 00:21:34,075 --> 00:21:36,295 What are you saying? 448 00:21:36,295 --> 00:21:39,036 And before I could start my argument, he said, 449 00:21:39,036 --> 00:21:40,473 have you read any of my books? 450 00:21:40,473 --> 00:21:41,430 I said, no. 451 00:21:41,430 --> 00:21:43,389 He said, well, start. 452 00:21:43,389 --> 00:21:47,088 So at that time his book, "Teach Your Own" had just come out. 453 00:21:47,088 --> 00:21:49,046 So I figured, let me start with that one. 454 00:21:49,046 --> 00:21:50,570 I couldn't get into it. 455 00:21:50,570 --> 00:21:52,702 By the second chapter I was pulling my hair out, 456 00:21:52,702 --> 00:21:54,225 thinking this guy is crazy. 457 00:21:54,225 --> 00:21:55,183 Who's going to teach your own? 458 00:21:55,183 --> 00:21:56,663 This is nuts. 459 00:21:56,663 --> 00:21:58,186 And so I remember talking to Peggy, 460 00:21:58,186 --> 00:21:59,361 Peg Durkee [assumed spelling], 461 00:21:59,361 --> 00:22:01,015 his business manager at the time. 462 00:22:01,015 --> 00:22:02,364 And she said, well, why don't you start 463 00:22:02,364 --> 00:22:04,105 with his first book, "How Children Fail." 464 00:22:04,105 --> 00:22:05,628 So I read "How Children Fail." 465 00:22:05,628 --> 00:22:07,021 And it made sense to me. 466 00:22:07,021 --> 00:22:10,241 I got it. And then I was able to engage John 467 00:22:10,241 --> 00:22:12,331 in all these conversations. 468 00:22:12,331 --> 00:22:14,811 By the mid-seventies, Holt had officially given 469 00:22:14,811 --> 00:22:16,422 up on reforming schools. 470 00:22:16,422 --> 00:22:18,032 And instead, turned his attention 471 00:22:18,032 --> 00:22:21,731 to a movement he had been previously unaware of. 472 00:22:21,731 --> 00:22:23,559 Homeschooling. 473 00:22:23,559 --> 00:22:25,082 John hit a nerve. 474 00:22:25,082 --> 00:22:27,824 No one knew that all these people were out there. 475 00:22:27,824 --> 00:22:30,044 And once he realized that these parents from all 476 00:22:30,044 --> 00:22:31,219 around the country were doing it, 477 00:22:31,219 --> 00:22:32,699 but not in touch with one another. 478 00:22:32,699 --> 00:22:35,310 He started, "Growing Without Schooling" magazine. 479 00:22:35,310 --> 00:22:38,139 First issue was August, 1977. 480 00:22:38,139 --> 00:22:40,881 "Growing Without Schooling" magazine helped bring together 481 00:22:40,881 --> 00:22:43,057 homeschoolers from all over the country. 482 00:22:43,057 --> 00:22:45,668 And was the only resource at the time that dealt with the needs 483 00:22:45,668 --> 00:22:47,975 of secular homeschoolers. 484 00:22:47,975 --> 00:22:50,586 Either you were a fundamentalist Christian, 485 00:22:50,586 --> 00:22:53,459 or you were a crunchy granola person. 486 00:22:53,459 --> 00:22:55,548 Those were the people who homeschooled back 487 00:22:55,548 --> 00:22:58,159 when I began homeschooling. 488 00:22:58,159 --> 00:23:01,336 I have seen a lot of shifts in the homeschooling movement 489 00:23:01,336 --> 00:23:03,643 over the last few decades. 490 00:23:03,643 --> 00:23:06,646 Today, no matter where you slice the American pie, 491 00:23:06,646 --> 00:23:11,041 you will see homeschoolers sticking out of it. 492 00:23:11,041 --> 00:23:15,263 In 1980, homeschooling was illegal in 30 states. 493 00:23:15,263 --> 00:23:17,918 Now it's legal in all 50. 494 00:23:17,918 --> 00:23:20,790 And the number of homeschoolers is growing. 495 00:23:20,790 --> 00:23:24,228 Between 1999 and 2012, the percentage 496 00:23:24,228 --> 00:23:28,494 of children being homeschooled has doubled. 497 00:23:28,494 --> 00:23:30,365 Despite this growing trend, 498 00:23:30,365 --> 00:23:34,064 there are many misperceptions about homeschooling. 499 00:23:34,064 --> 00:23:36,458 The general public's conceptualization 500 00:23:36,458 --> 00:23:39,287 of homeschooling is, your kids stay at home all the time. 501 00:23:39,287 --> 00:23:42,333 And you break out a book and start lecturing to them, 502 00:23:42,333 --> 00:23:43,900 and teaching them everything. 503 00:23:43,900 --> 00:23:47,774 Homeschooling happens like, pretty much everywhere. 504 00:23:47,774 --> 00:23:53,170 Like in the car, at the grocery store, on vacation, at home. 505 00:23:53,170 --> 00:23:54,781 Everywhere. 506 00:23:54,781 --> 00:23:56,565 There's so much that the public doesn't understand 507 00:23:56,565 --> 00:24:03,267 about homeschooling. 508 00:24:03,267 --> 00:24:05,269 So, what do you think alternatives are? 509 00:24:05,269 --> 00:24:07,446 Have you heard about homeschooling, for instance? 510 00:24:07,446 --> 00:24:09,056 Do you think that's a viable option for people? 511 00:24:09,056 --> 00:24:11,319 For people who can afford it. 512 00:24:11,319 --> 00:24:14,061 Do you think homeschooling is expensive? 513 00:24:14,061 --> 00:24:16,237 Yeah. Time consuming. 514 00:24:16,237 --> 00:24:18,369 When I say the word homeschooling, what images sort 515 00:24:18,369 --> 00:24:22,243 of come to mind for you? 516 00:24:22,243 --> 00:24:25,376 Sitting around a kitchen table and, you know, 517 00:24:25,376 --> 00:24:27,553 the parents giving the lessons. 518 00:24:27,553 --> 00:24:29,163 Structured lessons. 519 00:24:29,163 --> 00:24:31,557 A parent kind of going through a curriculum 520 00:24:31,557 --> 00:24:35,299 and teaching their kid, you know, whatever grade level. 521 00:24:35,299 --> 00:24:37,824 Actually, I think of a really lonely, isolated child, 522 00:24:37,824 --> 00:24:39,086 to be honest with you. 523 00:24:39,086 --> 00:24:42,393 You need three parents for that. 524 00:24:42,393 --> 00:24:44,787 Are the parents that are homeschooling, 525 00:24:44,787 --> 00:24:46,180 I would assume it's a parent or someone. 526 00:24:46,180 --> 00:24:47,573 Are they certified? 527 00:24:47,573 --> 00:24:49,662 Do they have, are they qualified to educate? 528 00:24:49,662 --> 00:24:53,579 Or if they're not, what makes them think that they're better 529 00:24:53,579 --> 00:24:55,624 than our public or private schools? 530 00:24:55,624 --> 00:25:02,022 That's my question. 531 00:25:02,022 --> 00:25:04,590 When we pulled them out, we had a couple 532 00:25:04,590 --> 00:25:06,069 of soul searching moments. 533 00:25:06,069 --> 00:25:10,421 Where we're like, you feel inadequate to the job. 534 00:25:10,421 --> 00:25:15,557 I mean we're not trained teachers. 535 00:25:15,557 --> 00:25:16,950 I don't have a credential. 536 00:25:16,950 --> 00:25:20,910 I didn't go to school and get a piece of paper 537 00:25:20,910 --> 00:25:23,217 that says I can teach. 538 00:25:23,217 --> 00:25:25,524 But I can teach. 539 00:25:25,524 --> 00:25:26,612 They're my kids. 540 00:25:26,612 --> 00:25:28,527 I know them. 541 00:25:28,527 --> 00:25:29,615 I know their hearts. 542 00:25:29,615 --> 00:25:30,616 I know their souls. 543 00:25:30,616 --> 00:25:31,617 I know them inside and out. 544 00:25:31,617 --> 00:25:34,358 I know what makes them tick. 545 00:25:34,358 --> 00:25:37,231 You don't have to be credentialed to teach. 546 00:25:37,231 --> 00:25:39,625 On Sunday night, my mom told us we have 547 00:25:39,625 --> 00:25:42,802 to be ready for homeschooling. 548 00:25:42,802 --> 00:25:44,847 So we had to be dressed and everything at eight o'clock. 549 00:25:44,847 --> 00:25:46,283 And you had to be at the table. 550 00:25:46,283 --> 00:25:49,417 And we were just going to start. 551 00:25:49,417 --> 00:25:53,116 Okay. So, we'll eventually get some like, you know, 552 00:25:53,116 --> 00:25:54,988 figure out a French curriculum. 553 00:25:54,988 --> 00:25:56,511 Or a French program that we're going to use. 554 00:25:56,511 --> 00:25:58,208 But since we don't have anything yet, we'll just. 555 00:25:58,208 --> 00:25:59,601 We're just going to start learning some words 556 00:25:59,601 --> 00:26:00,994 out of this book that we've always had 557 00:26:00,994 --> 00:26:06,652 and we've never really learned French out of. 558 00:26:06,652 --> 00:26:08,654 So we'll start with la famille. 559 00:26:08,654 --> 00:26:10,090 What do you think that means? 560 00:26:10,090 --> 00:26:11,308 The family. 561 00:26:11,308 --> 00:26:12,745 Very good. 562 00:26:12,745 --> 00:26:14,921 That first morning for homeschooling, 563 00:26:14,921 --> 00:26:16,096 it was just school at home. 564 00:26:16,096 --> 00:26:17,619 It wasn't anything special. 565 00:26:17,619 --> 00:26:19,621 And I was like, what have I gotten myself into? 566 00:26:19,621 --> 00:26:22,755 Any word in French that is feminine gets la. 567 00:26:22,755 --> 00:26:26,802 And any word that is masculine gets le. 568 00:26:26,802 --> 00:26:31,067 I imagined like it would be more I could choose more what I 569 00:26:31,067 --> 00:26:32,373 want to do. 570 00:26:32,373 --> 00:26:36,507 And I could learn how I want to do it. 571 00:26:36,507 --> 00:26:39,293 So my vision of what homeschooling was like, 572 00:26:39,293 --> 00:26:42,949 was that you recreated school at the table. 573 00:26:42,949 --> 00:26:45,038 You were going to have, you know, from eight o'clock 574 00:26:45,038 --> 00:26:46,866 to nine o'clock, you were going to have one subject. 575 00:26:46,866 --> 00:26:48,694 And then you would switch to another. 576 00:26:48,694 --> 00:26:51,392 I didn't really know what we were going to do. 577 00:26:51,392 --> 00:26:53,960 We didn't even know what curriculum we were going 578 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:55,004 to follow. 579 00:26:55,004 --> 00:26:56,571 There are thousands of options. 580 00:26:56,571 --> 00:27:00,836 And I had intended to learn what those options were 581 00:27:00,836 --> 00:27:02,011 and be prepared. 582 00:27:02,011 --> 00:27:03,317 But I didn't. 583 00:27:03,317 --> 00:27:07,016 So Todd gave them an art lesson. 584 00:27:07,016 --> 00:27:08,235 I want you draw as many different kinds 585 00:27:08,235 --> 00:27:10,019 of lines as you can. 586 00:27:10,019 --> 00:27:12,021 And then we had to take Todd into work. 587 00:27:12,021 --> 00:27:15,155 So, you know, I thought, there's no reason to stop. 588 00:27:15,155 --> 00:27:16,983 So I brought the French book with us 589 00:27:16,983 --> 00:27:20,551 and we kept having a French lesson in the car. 590 00:27:20,551 --> 00:27:24,077 You got to remember, you don't usually pronounce the letter 591 00:27:24,077 --> 00:27:25,208 at the end of the word. 592 00:27:25,208 --> 00:27:26,993 Unless there's an E after it. 593 00:27:26,993 --> 00:27:29,735 So this one is just Ver. 594 00:27:29,735 --> 00:27:30,561 Ver. 595 00:27:30,561 --> 00:27:31,519 Instead of Verte. 596 00:27:31,519 --> 00:27:33,260 Ver. 597 00:27:33,260 --> 00:27:35,697 We dropped Todd off at work, and I didn't know what to do. 598 00:27:35,697 --> 00:27:38,395 So we just got home and kind of called it a day after that. 599 00:27:38,395 --> 00:27:41,094 The girls were thrilled, but I had a big lump in my throat. 600 00:27:41,094 --> 00:27:43,357 Thinking if they were in school, they would still be working. 601 00:27:43,357 --> 00:27:45,228 They would be learning things. 602 00:27:45,228 --> 00:27:53,106 And it was hard for me to just let nothing happen. 603 00:27:53,106 --> 00:27:56,022 There are statistics that say that about 50% of people 604 00:27:56,022 --> 00:27:59,112 who homeschool drop out during the first year. 605 00:27:59,112 --> 00:28:03,203 Often it's because there's an authoritarian parenting style 606 00:28:03,203 --> 00:28:05,031 that's very inflexible. 607 00:28:05,031 --> 00:28:09,209 They're slavishly adhering to a school model for education. 608 00:28:09,209 --> 00:28:12,125 And, you know, it just isn't working in their home. 609 00:28:12,125 --> 00:28:13,779 It's meant to work in a school, 610 00:28:13,779 --> 00:28:15,998 where you can control 30 people with it. 611 00:28:15,998 --> 00:28:18,261 It doesn't work so well in the home environment. 612 00:28:18,261 --> 00:28:20,133 When the student is sitting right there next to you. 613 00:28:20,133 --> 00:28:23,440 Gives you instant feedback, that this is boring, or ridiculous. 614 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:24,746 Or they don't want to do it, right. 615 00:28:24,746 --> 00:28:26,617 So then, it comes into play. 616 00:28:26,617 --> 00:28:28,228 The parent thinking, oh, my gosh. 617 00:28:28,228 --> 00:28:29,620 I have to force them to do this, 618 00:28:29,620 --> 00:28:30,970 because that's what the parent grew up with. 619 00:28:30,970 --> 00:28:32,493 That's the model that's in their head. 620 00:28:32,493 --> 00:28:36,018 [ School Bell Ringing ] 621 00:28:36,018 --> 00:28:38,934 The model of going to school to learn is relatively new. 622 00:28:38,934 --> 00:28:42,285 Before 1900, most children learned at home 623 00:28:42,285 --> 00:28:44,070 and out in the real world. 624 00:28:44,070 --> 00:28:45,941 In 1837, the State 625 00:28:45,941 --> 00:28:49,162 of Massachusetts formed the first state board of education. 626 00:28:49,162 --> 00:28:50,990 With Horace Mann as its secretary. 627 00:28:50,990 --> 00:28:53,775 Mann believed that everyone was entitled 628 00:28:53,775 --> 00:28:57,039 to the same content in education. 629 00:28:57,039 --> 00:29:00,086 Returning from a research trip to Germany in 1848. 630 00:29:00,086 --> 00:29:04,133 Mann lobbied heavily to have the Prussian model adopted. 631 00:29:04,133 --> 00:29:06,832 He quickly set about establishing a statewide system 632 00:29:06,832 --> 00:29:11,184 of Common Schools, staffed by professionally trained teachers. 633 00:29:11,184 --> 00:29:14,056 His ideas quickly gained momentum. 634 00:29:14,056 --> 00:29:17,581 And by 1852, Massachusetts passed a compulsory 635 00:29:17,581 --> 00:29:24,197 attendance law. 636 00:29:24,197 --> 00:29:27,026 Mann also believed that school could become a great equalizer. 637 00:29:27,026 --> 00:29:29,811 And values such as obedience to authority, 638 00:29:29,811 --> 00:29:31,247 promptness in attendance, 639 00:29:31,247 --> 00:29:33,815 and organizing time according to bell ringing. 640 00:29:33,815 --> 00:29:35,208 Would help students prepare 641 00:29:35,208 --> 00:29:40,169 for future employment, in an industrial age. 642 00:29:40,169 --> 00:29:43,259 And the whole purpose of it is to create a docile, 643 00:29:43,259 --> 00:29:46,915 factory, military workforce. 644 00:29:46,915 --> 00:29:50,658 The whole purpose is to subordinate children. 645 00:29:50,658 --> 00:29:53,095 And get them in that mindset of being subordinated, 646 00:29:53,095 --> 00:29:54,967 so they grow up to be subordinated adults. 647 00:29:54,967 --> 00:29:57,012 This is the poorest class I've had in a long -- 648 00:29:57,012 --> 00:30:03,802 Prussian Schooling had been out to destroy the imagination. 649 00:30:03,802 --> 00:30:08,415 In every public library worth its salt, in the United States, 650 00:30:08,415 --> 00:30:10,678 and in every college library. 651 00:30:10,678 --> 00:30:14,421 You will find a collection of essays 652 00:30:14,421 --> 00:30:19,730 by a Prussian philosopher, Johann Fichte. 653 00:30:19,730 --> 00:30:23,560 Fichte said we have to set up a system 654 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,346 of universal forced schooling. 655 00:30:26,346 --> 00:30:30,393 In which we destroy the imagination. 656 00:30:30,393 --> 00:30:36,573 Bells, ordered lessons, constant testing, rankings. 657 00:30:36,573 --> 00:30:39,446 The entire system is designed 658 00:30:39,446 --> 00:30:41,927 to regiment a large group of people. 659 00:30:41,927 --> 00:30:46,018 And to get them all to do the exact same thing. 660 00:30:46,018 --> 00:30:50,674 By 1900, 34 states had compulsory schooling laws. 661 00:30:50,674 --> 00:30:53,373 Half the nation's children attended one-room schools. 662 00:30:53,373 --> 00:30:57,159 And by 1918, every state required students 663 00:30:57,159 --> 00:30:59,248 to complete elementary school. 664 00:30:59,248 --> 00:31:01,207 The reality is, they want children 665 00:31:01,207 --> 00:31:03,600 to take their place in society. 666 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,473 Be cogs, and keep this system going. 667 00:31:06,473 --> 00:31:10,042 So you're going to school to take your place. 668 00:31:10,042 --> 00:31:11,608 Now, the trouble is with your attitude. 669 00:31:11,608 --> 00:31:13,523 You don't pay enough attention in class. 670 00:31:13,523 --> 00:31:18,006 You don't do enough work outside of it. 671 00:31:18,006 --> 00:31:21,749 Our own schooling, in many respects, 672 00:31:21,749 --> 00:31:25,100 did a whole lot of damage to our self-confidence. 673 00:31:25,100 --> 00:31:28,756 And that's what I try to tell people when they look at me 674 00:31:28,756 --> 00:31:31,063 and say, but, you know, I'm not a teacher. 675 00:31:31,063 --> 00:31:33,804 I couldn't possibly do that with my children. 676 00:31:33,804 --> 00:31:38,026 And sometimes they just need some encouragement. 677 00:31:38,026 --> 00:31:42,030 And a little rebuilding of that self-confidence 678 00:31:42,030 --> 00:31:45,599 that was destroyed. 679 00:31:45,599 --> 00:31:46,121 Hello. 680 00:31:46,121 --> 00:31:46,861 Hi. 681 00:31:46,861 --> 00:31:48,210 Hi, come in. 682 00:31:48,210 --> 00:31:50,256 Feeling uncertainty about her decision, 683 00:31:50,256 --> 00:31:53,433 Rachel has made an appointment with a homeschool counselor. 684 00:31:53,433 --> 00:31:56,958 And how long have you been in this new lifestyle? 685 00:31:56,958 --> 00:31:58,046 It's very new for us. 686 00:31:58,046 --> 00:31:59,569 Yeah. 687 00:31:59,569 --> 00:32:00,875 And we're really excited that we're doing it. 688 00:32:00,875 --> 00:32:04,052 But we're not really sure how to do it. 689 00:32:04,052 --> 00:32:09,231 We're kind of paving our own path here, and it's scary. 690 00:32:09,231 --> 00:32:10,189 Yes. 691 00:32:10,189 --> 00:32:11,190 What if we do it wrong? 692 00:32:11,190 --> 00:32:12,191 Those are some of my fears. 693 00:32:12,191 --> 00:32:13,801 Yes. 694 00:32:13,801 --> 00:32:15,107 What if we're closing doors instead of opening them? 695 00:32:15,107 --> 00:32:17,022 When we look at what are some 696 00:32:17,022 --> 00:32:20,808 of the common concerns, the overarching is, 697 00:32:20,808 --> 00:32:23,332 I'm not doing enough. 698 00:32:23,332 --> 00:32:26,422 And I'm going to miss something anxiety. 699 00:32:26,422 --> 00:32:28,033 What do you guys like to do? 700 00:32:28,033 --> 00:32:31,079 I like designing costumes and like, 701 00:32:31,079 --> 00:32:32,472 create characters of my own. 702 00:32:32,472 --> 00:32:36,606 And design costumes and things like that. 703 00:32:36,606 --> 00:32:38,826 So now you have lots of time to do that, don't you? 704 00:32:38,826 --> 00:32:41,394 Is that so great? 705 00:32:41,394 --> 00:32:46,007 I'm really into like, animals and marine biology. 706 00:32:46,007 --> 00:32:49,054 So I really kind of want to take a class on that. 707 00:32:49,054 --> 00:32:49,750 Okay. 708 00:32:49,750 --> 00:32:50,925 Yeah. 709 00:32:50,925 --> 00:32:53,275 So parents really worry about, 710 00:32:53,275 --> 00:32:56,191 I'm living out of the box. 711 00:32:56,191 --> 00:32:58,237 I'm not doing enough, right. 712 00:32:58,237 --> 00:33:00,282 What if I screw this up? 713 00:33:00,282 --> 00:33:03,068 It's like taking all of the parenting worries, 714 00:33:03,068 --> 00:33:05,026 and kind of magnifying them a little bit more. 715 00:33:05,026 --> 00:33:08,029 So you're just probably in an early phase now of saying, okay, 716 00:33:08,029 --> 00:33:09,378 we used to do all these things. 717 00:33:09,378 --> 00:33:11,554 Our life was structured this way. 718 00:33:11,554 --> 00:33:13,208 And now we get to have it structured 719 00:33:13,208 --> 00:33:14,514 in a little bit of a different way. 720 00:33:14,514 --> 00:33:16,081 Okay. 721 00:33:16,081 --> 00:33:18,039 And you're going to be reinventing all the time. 722 00:33:18,039 --> 00:33:19,519 You're going to create a new path. 723 00:33:19,519 --> 00:33:23,044 But that path has so many places for discovery. 724 00:33:23,044 --> 00:33:24,567 You get to change it any time you want. 725 00:33:24,567 --> 00:33:26,004 Michelle advises Rachel 726 00:33:26,004 --> 00:33:28,745 to give the girls some unstructured time before 727 00:33:28,745 --> 00:33:30,573 deciding on a path. 728 00:33:30,573 --> 00:33:33,185 A process called deschooling. 729 00:33:33,185 --> 00:33:36,318 In traditional schooling, it's a lot of top down. 730 00:33:36,318 --> 00:33:38,494 I'm going to tell you to do this. 731 00:33:38,494 --> 00:33:41,497 And this is how you do it, and this is when you do it. 732 00:33:41,497 --> 00:33:43,195 So for the kids, part 733 00:33:43,195 --> 00:33:47,938 of the deschooling process is really allowing them 734 00:33:47,938 --> 00:33:51,638 to find what really is peaking their interests. 735 00:33:51,638 --> 00:33:54,380 Sometimes people will say it's like for every year that you're 736 00:33:54,380 --> 00:33:56,512 in school, it's like a month of deschooling. 737 00:33:56,512 --> 00:34:10,048 I always say to parents, let's just give it lots of time. 738 00:34:10,048 --> 00:34:12,354 I want to give them the freedom to be able 739 00:34:12,354 --> 00:34:14,095 to really explore what they want to do. 740 00:34:14,095 --> 00:34:15,749 But I'm also really nervous. 741 00:34:15,749 --> 00:34:21,450 It's -- I feel like I have a different vantage point 742 00:34:21,450 --> 00:34:26,151 on their lives than they do. 743 00:34:26,151 --> 00:34:28,457 It scares me a little bit to give them too much freedom. 744 00:34:28,457 --> 00:34:35,073 And leave it too much in their hands. 745 00:34:35,073 --> 00:34:36,683 The hardest thing is to get out of your own way. 746 00:34:36,683 --> 00:34:38,728 I call it my school brain, you know. 747 00:34:38,728 --> 00:34:41,775 Every now and then kicks in and starts going, you know, but, 748 00:34:41,775 --> 00:34:43,820 but, they're not interested in this. 749 00:34:43,820 --> 00:34:45,648 But they're this age, and this is what you learn. 750 00:34:45,648 --> 00:34:49,913 You know, and you sort of -- if you can stop that and step back. 751 00:34:49,913 --> 00:34:51,654 And trust that your kids are going 752 00:34:51,654 --> 00:34:56,094 to be okay pursuing what they are interested in. 753 00:34:56,094 --> 00:35:04,189 And then, you're going to have a much easier time of it. 754 00:35:04,189 --> 00:35:07,105 It's hard for me not to judge what my kids are doing. 755 00:35:07,105 --> 00:35:09,107 I heard someone say yesterday, you know, 756 00:35:09,107 --> 00:35:11,283 one of the most important things that you need to do 757 00:35:11,283 --> 00:35:12,371 when you start this process. 758 00:35:12,371 --> 00:35:13,981 Is to let go of expectations. 759 00:35:13,981 --> 00:35:16,201 And I have a lot of them. 760 00:35:16,201 --> 00:35:19,508 I want my kids to be high achievers. 761 00:35:19,508 --> 00:35:21,075 I hear about all these other things 762 00:35:21,075 --> 00:35:24,122 that all these amazing kids have done, you know. 763 00:35:24,122 --> 00:35:25,732 And I want my kids to be those kids. 764 00:35:25,732 --> 00:35:27,299 For this, you'll need a sewing machine, 765 00:35:27,299 --> 00:35:30,128 some light cotton fabric. 766 00:35:30,128 --> 00:35:31,825 Scissors, pins. 767 00:35:31,825 --> 00:35:35,829 >>The difference between school and education and learning. 768 00:35:35,829 --> 00:35:39,963 Is that learning can become all the things 769 00:35:39,963 --> 00:35:43,053 that anyone expected of education. 770 00:35:43,053 --> 00:35:45,273 But learning doesn't separate educational 771 00:35:45,273 --> 00:35:46,796 from non-educational. 772 00:35:46,796 --> 00:35:48,494 And I think no matter what a person learns. 773 00:35:48,494 --> 00:35:52,411 No matter how trivial it seems at the beginning. 774 00:35:52,411 --> 00:35:55,327 It eventually can tie into something or become useful. 775 00:35:55,327 --> 00:35:56,676 Or make that person interesting, 776 00:35:56,676 --> 00:35:59,635 give them their own unique perspective. 777 00:35:59,635 --> 00:36:03,378 And I think any ideas of that's not scholarly, 778 00:36:03,378 --> 00:36:07,165 that's not schoolish, that's not educational. 779 00:36:07,165 --> 00:36:08,644 Separate a person from the world. 780 00:36:08,644 --> 00:36:10,516 What are you doing, babe? 781 00:36:10,516 --> 00:36:14,302 I find that I really want a break sometimes. 782 00:36:14,302 --> 00:36:17,436 I want to have seven hours where I send my kids away to school. 783 00:36:17,436 --> 00:36:18,959 And I feel kind of fortunate 784 00:36:18,959 --> 00:36:20,874 that they do spend some time with their dad. 785 00:36:20,874 --> 00:36:24,356 So I do get breaks sometimes, where some other people don't. 786 00:36:24,356 --> 00:36:29,056 Like the lab slips, or whatever dental fun here. 787 00:36:29,056 --> 00:36:31,841 While you guys do this, I'll go fix up a couple syringes. 788 00:36:31,841 --> 00:36:35,323 The biggest fear for me in deschooling is getting behind 789 00:36:35,323 --> 00:36:38,544 to a point where they can't catch up to those other kids. 790 00:36:38,544 --> 00:36:40,981 Curriculum is maybe a little strong word. 791 00:36:40,981 --> 00:36:44,202 But I really want to give them some sort of structure. 792 00:36:44,202 --> 00:36:46,378 Once they figure out what they want to do, I want to try 793 00:36:46,378 --> 00:36:50,164 and help them achieve that. 794 00:36:50,164 --> 00:36:52,993 As parents, we like, want that security 795 00:36:52,993 --> 00:36:54,908 to know we're doing our best. 796 00:36:54,908 --> 00:36:57,563 Or we're doing what's right for our kids. 797 00:36:57,563 --> 00:37:01,393 And for some reason, we get security in the fact 798 00:37:01,393 --> 00:37:03,960 that they have done their math homework 799 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:05,223 and their social studies homework. 800 00:37:05,223 --> 00:37:07,529 But like, what did they really do? 801 00:37:07,529 --> 00:37:11,141 You good? I think what they really did isn't as significant 802 00:37:11,141 --> 00:37:14,710 as what they really can do if they're left alone. 803 00:37:14,710 --> 00:37:17,496 If they're really left alone to learn the things 804 00:37:17,496 --> 00:37:18,540 that they're interested in. 805 00:37:18,540 --> 00:37:21,151 They learn them so much better. 806 00:37:21,151 --> 00:37:22,892 Take your cues from the children. 807 00:37:22,892 --> 00:37:26,461 Because they're very innocent, they're very pure. 808 00:37:26,461 --> 00:37:31,814 And that pureness comes through, if your mind isn't cluttered 809 00:37:31,814 --> 00:37:34,208 with a lot of other things going on. 810 00:37:34,208 --> 00:37:41,911 And if you do that, what you need to do gets shown to you. 811 00:37:41,911 --> 00:37:45,175 One of the concerns that I have with homeschooling is that. 812 00:37:45,175 --> 00:37:46,786 Well, how am I going to know if they're progressing, 813 00:37:46,786 --> 00:37:48,657 if they're not taking tests? 814 00:37:48,657 --> 00:37:51,094 How am I going to know that they're learning anything, 815 00:37:51,094 --> 00:37:52,966 if I can't see on a piece of paper 816 00:37:52,966 --> 00:37:55,403 that they got a letter saying that they learned it? 817 00:37:55,403 --> 00:38:00,060 At school, you don't have to worry about these things. 818 00:38:00,060 --> 00:38:01,975 Three months into deschooling, Rachel, 819 00:38:01,975 --> 00:38:03,629 Todd and Thomas are anxious 820 00:38:03,629 --> 00:38:06,371 about what the girls might be missing. 821 00:38:06,371 --> 00:38:09,156 They decide they need to explore what other homeschoolers 822 00:38:09,156 --> 00:38:11,289 are doing. 823 00:38:11,289 --> 00:38:11,898 Hi. 824 00:38:11,898 --> 00:38:14,204 Hello. 825 00:38:14,204 --> 00:38:16,163 I was an elementary school teacher. 826 00:38:16,163 --> 00:38:19,297 And I thought I was going to take my kids to my school. 827 00:38:19,297 --> 00:38:20,776 I worked at a great school that I loved. 828 00:38:20,776 --> 00:38:23,388 And then my eldest did not want to go to school. 829 00:38:23,388 --> 00:38:25,433 And I thought that was very strange. 830 00:38:25,433 --> 00:38:27,000 But I honored that. 831 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:28,871 And I ended up homeschooling kindergarten, thought, 832 00:38:28,871 --> 00:38:30,395 you can't make or break kindergarten. 833 00:38:30,395 --> 00:38:32,048 Started off very structured, because I was a teacher. 834 00:38:32,048 --> 00:38:36,052 And kind of fell into it, and then kind of liked it. 835 00:38:36,052 --> 00:38:37,402 Like, this is kind of great. 836 00:38:37,402 --> 00:38:40,056 There's a lot of freedom here. 837 00:38:40,056 --> 00:38:42,450 Once I loosened up and realized that kids will learn 838 00:38:42,450 --> 00:38:44,713 when you leave them alone. 839 00:38:44,713 --> 00:38:47,412 So I'll give you guys a cone. 840 00:38:47,412 --> 00:38:49,675 And henna is really like, all about symmetry. 841 00:38:49,675 --> 00:38:53,200 So you can do like flowers and leaves and stuff. 842 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,072 But you want to make sure it's symmetrical. 843 00:38:56,072 --> 00:39:00,033 And always pull towards you when you're doing henna. 844 00:39:00,033 --> 00:39:02,209 Kids don't really learn with paper and pencil a whole lot. 845 00:39:02,209 --> 00:39:03,428 My kids don't. 846 00:39:03,428 --> 00:39:05,168 I mean, they do put pencil to paper. 847 00:39:05,168 --> 00:39:06,518 But that's not how they learn. 848 00:39:06,518 --> 00:39:08,389 But not workbooks? 849 00:39:08,389 --> 00:39:09,564 Tests? 850 00:39:09,564 --> 00:39:11,131 I have them, they're in my house. 851 00:39:11,131 --> 00:39:13,046 And my kids have done them. 852 00:39:13,046 --> 00:39:14,743 But it's not the number one choice 853 00:39:14,743 --> 00:39:17,311 of activity for them at all. 854 00:39:17,311 --> 00:39:22,621 Take the nose and fold it down on the straight line. 855 00:39:22,621 --> 00:39:23,622 They do great things. 856 00:39:23,622 --> 00:39:25,406 And it's not me, it's them. 857 00:39:25,406 --> 00:39:26,929 People say, oh, you were a teacher. 858 00:39:26,929 --> 00:39:28,453 So you can teach them. 859 00:39:28,453 --> 00:39:31,586 And I'm like, I don't even really teach my kids. 860 00:39:31,586 --> 00:39:32,805 I watch them grow and learn. 861 00:39:32,805 --> 00:39:34,807 I don't teach them. 862 00:39:34,807 --> 00:39:36,809 You know, once in a blue moon, I might toss something their way, 863 00:39:36,809 --> 00:39:37,984 that maybe they didn't already know. 864 00:39:37,984 --> 00:39:39,855 But that's pretty rare, actually. 865 00:39:39,855 --> 00:39:42,118 It's more that I actually learn more from them. 866 00:39:42,118 --> 00:39:48,037 They teach me a lot. 867 00:39:48,037 --> 00:39:49,996 I feel pretty ready to phase out of deschooling, 868 00:39:49,996 --> 00:39:52,912 and into something a little more formal and structured. 869 00:39:52,912 --> 00:39:55,480 But I don't know how to do that. 870 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,091 As far as curriculum, there are a few things I have my eyes on. 871 00:39:58,091 --> 00:40:01,573 That I would like to possibly use. 872 00:40:01,573 --> 00:40:05,577 But I want to try and involve the girls 873 00:40:05,577 --> 00:40:07,361 in the decision-making process. 874 00:40:07,361 --> 00:40:09,058 Because I know that if they're not interested in it, 875 00:40:09,058 --> 00:40:10,408 they're not going to do it. 876 00:40:10,408 --> 00:40:11,452 And it's going to be a waste of my money 877 00:40:11,452 --> 00:40:16,152 and my efforts and my time, so. 878 00:40:16,152 --> 00:40:19,808 I think we tried every kind of homeschooling there is. 879 00:40:19,808 --> 00:40:22,028 So we started out with classroom schooling at home. 880 00:40:22,028 --> 00:40:26,206 And we tried, we did some things with a co-op. 881 00:40:26,206 --> 00:40:31,254 We did some structured learning with curriculum. 882 00:40:31,254 --> 00:40:34,388 We did some child-initiated learning. 883 00:40:34,388 --> 00:40:37,173 We just did, really, the whole spectrum. 884 00:40:37,173 --> 00:40:45,051 And different things fit each child at different times. 885 00:40:45,051 --> 00:40:48,054 Still uncertain about which homeschooling path to take. 886 00:40:48,054 --> 00:40:50,535 Rachel and the girls visit another family, 887 00:40:50,535 --> 00:40:52,537 using a much more structured approach. 888 00:40:52,537 --> 00:40:54,234 Called Classical Curriculum. 889 00:40:54,234 --> 00:40:55,104 Hi. 890 00:40:55,104 --> 00:40:56,105 Hi, how are you? 891 00:40:56,105 --> 00:40:57,106 Good, how are you? 892 00:40:57,106 --> 00:40:57,759 I'm Rachel. 893 00:40:57,759 --> 00:40:59,457 Shannon. 894 00:40:59,457 --> 00:41:02,242 The first year I did it, I would fill these schedules out. 895 00:41:02,242 --> 00:41:04,462 This is when we're going to learn Japanese. 896 00:41:04,462 --> 00:41:05,593 I don't know Japanese. 897 00:41:05,593 --> 00:41:06,551 How am I going to teach Japanese? 898 00:41:06,551 --> 00:41:08,074 Okay, I'll just whatever. 899 00:41:08,074 --> 00:41:09,554 It was just ridiculous, really, that we were going 900 00:41:09,554 --> 00:41:10,816 to learn all these things. 901 00:41:10,816 --> 00:41:12,513 And this is how I was going to do it. 902 00:41:12,513 --> 00:41:14,559 And I had my schedule on my wall, and it was impossible. 903 00:41:14,559 --> 00:41:16,299 It was absolutely impossible. 904 00:41:16,299 --> 00:41:19,172 Until I heard about this group called Classical Conversations. 905 00:41:19,172 --> 00:41:21,043 Where mom's come together. 906 00:41:21,043 --> 00:41:22,828 And your kids can play games. 907 00:41:22,828 --> 00:41:24,394 And they can learn songs. 908 00:41:24,394 --> 00:41:27,963 And they can actually have fun ingesting very 909 00:41:27,963 --> 00:41:29,530 important material. 910 00:41:29,530 --> 00:41:38,060 [ Music & Singing ] 911 00:41:38,060 --> 00:41:40,367 Classical Education is a method of training the mind. 912 00:41:40,367 --> 00:41:44,023 In a systematic and structured three-part process known 913 00:41:44,023 --> 00:41:45,415 as The Trivium. 914 00:41:45,415 --> 00:41:47,722 Your girls are right in that middle zone. 915 00:41:47,722 --> 00:41:49,942 Right where they're about to transition 916 00:41:49,942 --> 00:41:53,119 into what they call the dialectic stage. 917 00:41:53,119 --> 00:41:56,383 So they're going to be talking back. 918 00:41:56,383 --> 00:41:58,690 So you want to start saying, okay, 919 00:41:58,690 --> 00:41:59,778 you want to learn how to argue. 920 00:41:59,778 --> 00:42:01,388 Let's teach you formal debate. 921 00:42:01,388 --> 00:42:02,868 What's that look like? 922 00:42:02,868 --> 00:42:04,304 That's what I really love about homeschooling. 923 00:42:04,304 --> 00:42:06,611 Is that I can have discussions with my class. 924 00:42:06,611 --> 00:42:10,049 And I can talk to them about what my opinions are 925 00:42:10,049 --> 00:42:11,398 and I can hear from them. 926 00:42:11,398 --> 00:42:13,443 And understand both sides of arguments, 927 00:42:13,443 --> 00:42:15,445 instead of just being taught one thing. 928 00:42:15,445 --> 00:42:20,102 Or, you know, it's just more well-rounded. 929 00:42:20,102 --> 00:42:22,148 The Classical Method is language intensive, 930 00:42:22,148 --> 00:42:26,021 systematic and rigorous. 931 00:42:26,021 --> 00:42:27,022 Is there a lot of work every week? 932 00:42:27,022 --> 00:42:27,893 There is so much work. 933 00:42:27,893 --> 00:42:29,590 You, like, I don't know. 934 00:42:29,590 --> 00:42:33,420 Maybe it's just because I'm -- like, this is for a week. 935 00:42:33,420 --> 00:42:35,465 This is all my Latin. 936 00:42:35,465 --> 00:42:36,945 I think that the way that they learn, 937 00:42:36,945 --> 00:42:38,643 isn't really the way I would want to learn. 938 00:42:38,643 --> 00:42:41,080 But I can tell it really works for their family. 939 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,039 Yes, so this is the math. 940 00:42:44,039 --> 00:42:45,040 I miss a lot. 941 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:46,346 And I fail a lot. 942 00:42:46,346 --> 00:42:49,567 And I make lots and lots of mistakes. 943 00:42:49,567 --> 00:42:53,483 But, for the most part, it works. 944 00:42:53,483 --> 00:42:55,311 I don't even -- I think if I did nothing, 945 00:42:55,311 --> 00:42:56,835 and failed at everything. 946 00:42:56,835 --> 00:42:58,271 And everything was a mistake, it would still work. 947 00:42:58,271 --> 00:43:01,709 I don't know what it is about humans. 948 00:43:01,709 --> 00:43:09,021 They want to learn. 949 00:43:09,021 --> 00:43:10,979 So in this beaker, I've got copper sulfate, 950 00:43:10,979 --> 00:43:13,112 in solution, dissolved. 951 00:43:13,112 --> 00:43:15,244 And then, this is just aluminum -- metal. 952 00:43:15,244 --> 00:43:17,638 In stark contrast to the structured approach 953 00:43:17,638 --> 00:43:18,944 of Classical Curriculum, 954 00:43:18,944 --> 00:43:22,730 is self-directed learning, or unschooling. 955 00:43:22,730 --> 00:43:24,819 I've been unschooling my whole life. 956 00:43:24,819 --> 00:43:26,691 And I've got a, you know, great passion 957 00:43:26,691 --> 00:43:28,954 for chemistry and physics. 958 00:43:28,954 --> 00:43:32,740 I've been able to make a little chemistry lab where I can fool 959 00:43:32,740 --> 00:43:34,350 around and be serious. 960 00:43:34,350 --> 00:43:37,179 And learn a ton of chemistry, and do cool experiments. 961 00:43:37,179 --> 00:43:40,574 Unschooling has allowed me to go at my own pace. 962 00:43:40,574 --> 00:43:44,186 So I've been able to really go ahead in all the areas 963 00:43:44,186 --> 00:43:45,535 that I'm really interested in. 964 00:43:45,535 --> 00:43:48,364 And also do -- learn the material itself 965 00:43:48,364 --> 00:43:51,019 in a very different way than I would in school. 966 00:43:51,019 --> 00:43:54,588 The term unschooling is often misunderstood. 967 00:43:54,588 --> 00:43:58,331 It was first coined by John Holt, in 1977. 968 00:43:58,331 --> 00:44:00,768 And came from an unlikely source. 969 00:44:00,768 --> 00:44:05,425 In 1977, the word homeschooling wasn't popular. 970 00:44:05,425 --> 00:44:08,297 But it was out there a little bit. 971 00:44:08,297 --> 00:44:10,125 But he decided that, you know, he wanted to come 972 00:44:10,125 --> 00:44:11,736 up with the word unschooling. 973 00:44:11,736 --> 00:44:13,738 Because what he -- the type of learning he was talking 974 00:44:13,738 --> 00:44:15,435 about didn't have to take place at home. 975 00:44:15,435 --> 00:44:17,132 And it didn't have to look like school. 976 00:44:17,132 --> 00:44:20,745 And at the same time, there was an ad campaign by 7 Up. 977 00:44:20,745 --> 00:44:22,616 And they were saying "We're not a cola. 978 00:44:22,616 --> 00:44:24,183 We're more natural. 979 00:44:24,183 --> 00:44:26,359 We are the uncola." 980 00:44:26,359 --> 00:44:29,057 And I think he was kind of picking up on that. 981 00:44:29,057 --> 00:44:32,234 So he came up with the word unschooling. 982 00:44:32,234 --> 00:44:36,108 Basically, unschooling is using life as the learning tool. 983 00:44:36,108 --> 00:44:40,025 So we're never out of school, because we're never out of life. 984 00:44:40,025 --> 00:44:45,160 And so, it's just using what is happening on a daily basis 985 00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,119 as an example of how to learn. 986 00:44:47,119 --> 00:44:50,209 Going to the grocery store becomes, oh, let's, you know, 987 00:44:50,209 --> 00:44:51,210 practice our math skills. 988 00:44:51,210 --> 00:44:52,602 And practice rounding. 989 00:44:52,602 --> 00:44:54,039 Because now we can, the easier way to figure 990 00:44:54,039 --> 00:44:55,605 out how much money we're spending. 991 00:44:55,605 --> 00:44:56,911 Or how much money we have. 992 00:44:56,911 --> 00:44:59,566 So that becomes, you know, a math skill. 993 00:44:59,566 --> 00:45:01,002 I think the difference between homeschooling 994 00:45:01,002 --> 00:45:03,439 and unschooling, is unschooling is full-time, 995 00:45:03,439 --> 00:45:05,311 self-directed learning. 996 00:45:05,311 --> 00:45:08,444 So as a teenager, that means that you are taking the reins. 997 00:45:08,444 --> 00:45:11,578 You are actively directing your education. 998 00:45:11,578 --> 00:45:14,146 And not just doing what mom and dad say. 999 00:45:14,146 --> 00:45:17,192 Or what your friends or your family say. 1000 00:45:17,192 --> 00:45:18,628 Basically, what it is, 1001 00:45:18,628 --> 00:45:21,806 is allowing your child the freedom and the joy. 1002 00:45:21,806 --> 00:45:25,635 To explore their own passions and interests in their own way. 1003 00:45:25,635 --> 00:45:29,030 Because they're innately motivated. 1004 00:45:29,030 --> 00:45:31,511 I went to public school up until 5th grade. 1005 00:45:31,511 --> 00:45:33,078 And at the end of 5th grade, I told my parents, 1006 00:45:33,078 --> 00:45:34,819 I'm not learning anything. 1007 00:45:34,819 --> 00:45:37,343 Something has to be done if I want to continue my education. 1008 00:45:37,343 --> 00:45:39,998 I went ahead and became an unschooler. 1009 00:45:39,998 --> 00:45:41,826 And directed my own education, 1010 00:45:41,826 --> 00:45:45,090 all the way up until the end of high school. 1011 00:45:45,090 --> 00:45:47,745 I started a flower delivery business. 1012 00:45:47,745 --> 00:45:52,314 I started a photography business that I ran for six years. 1013 00:45:52,314 --> 00:45:55,143 I traveled abroad, and lived in France for four months. 1014 00:45:55,143 --> 00:45:56,579 And learned French, 1015 00:45:56,579 --> 00:45:59,060 and experienced a new language and culture. 1016 00:45:59,060 --> 00:46:02,020 But I still assumed that college was the path to success, 1017 00:46:02,020 --> 00:46:03,412 because my parents went. 1018 00:46:03,412 --> 00:46:06,328 My peers were going, and society expected it. 1019 00:46:06,328 --> 00:46:07,590 I left college after eight months, 1020 00:46:07,590 --> 00:46:09,201 because I wasn't terribly impressed 1021 00:46:09,201 --> 00:46:12,291 with the quality of the academics. 1022 00:46:12,291 --> 00:46:15,642 In May 2011, Dale was selected out of hundreds 1023 00:46:15,642 --> 00:46:18,732 of individuals around the world as a Thiel fellow. 1024 00:46:18,732 --> 00:46:20,690 The Thiel Fellowship brings together some 1025 00:46:20,690 --> 00:46:23,606 of the world's most creative and motivated young people. 1026 00:46:23,606 --> 00:46:24,999 And provides them 1027 00:46:24,999 --> 00:46:27,654 with a no-strings-attached grant of $100,000. 1028 00:46:27,654 --> 00:46:30,178 To skip college and focus on their work, 1029 00:46:30,178 --> 00:46:32,441 research and self-education. 1030 00:46:32,441 --> 00:46:34,704 With the endowment from the Thiel Foundation, 1031 00:46:34,704 --> 00:46:37,098 Dale founded UnCollege. 1032 00:46:37,098 --> 00:46:39,492 UnCollege is a social movement challenging the notion 1033 00:46:39,492 --> 00:46:41,537 that college equals success. 1034 00:46:41,537 --> 00:46:43,191 It's not anti-college. 1035 00:46:43,191 --> 00:46:45,454 I love education just as much as anybody else. 1036 00:46:45,454 --> 00:46:49,328 I simply think that education isn't limited to school. 1037 00:46:49,328 --> 00:46:52,897 Today, at only 22 years old, he is a published author. 1038 00:46:52,897 --> 00:46:55,377 And a much sought after education speaker 1039 00:46:55,377 --> 00:46:57,292 at events around the world. 1040 00:46:57,292 --> 00:46:58,598 I don't think everyone who wants 1041 00:46:58,598 --> 00:47:00,339 to unschool will be successful at it. 1042 00:47:00,339 --> 00:47:01,688 Some people can't relax. 1043 00:47:01,688 --> 00:47:02,907 Some people are not creative. 1044 00:47:02,907 --> 00:47:04,212 Some people are not imaginative. 1045 00:47:04,212 --> 00:47:07,999 Some people are so controlling. 1046 00:47:07,999 --> 00:47:11,219 That if something happens that they didn't plan and execute, 1047 00:47:11,219 --> 00:47:12,655 they're not having fun anymore. 1048 00:47:12,655 --> 00:47:14,222 They're looking at the world and their children 1049 00:47:14,222 --> 00:47:15,615 through school colored glasses. 1050 00:47:15,615 --> 00:47:18,574 And they're willing to do other things, 1051 00:47:18,574 --> 00:47:21,664 as long as the result looks like school. 1052 00:47:21,664 --> 00:47:23,623 And they need to turn their back on that and look 1053 00:47:23,623 --> 00:47:25,538 at the world a whole new way. 1054 00:47:25,538 --> 00:47:27,279 Trust, of course, is a big one. 1055 00:47:27,279 --> 00:47:29,063 Because you have to trust 1056 00:47:29,063 --> 00:47:32,893 that your child will learn what they need to learn. 1057 00:47:32,893 --> 00:47:34,286 That they're capable. 1058 00:47:34,286 --> 00:47:38,420 And that really requires a shift 1059 00:47:38,420 --> 00:47:41,162 in your own perception of human nature. 1060 00:47:41,162 --> 00:47:43,904 Now, I know some people watching this will probably be 1061 00:47:43,904 --> 00:47:47,952 saying, "Well, yeah you know, your child may be good at this. 1062 00:47:47,952 --> 00:47:51,956 And if that's all he does, what about his weak points?" 1063 00:47:51,956 --> 00:47:55,176 This is not to say that you ignore the weak points. 1064 00:47:55,176 --> 00:47:59,224 But there's a lot of happiness to be derived 1065 00:47:59,224 --> 00:48:01,487 with these children who are growing up to be 1066 00:48:01,487 --> 00:48:03,228 who they are meant to be. 1067 00:48:03,228 --> 00:48:06,318 And nobody intervening and trying to make them 1068 00:48:06,318 --> 00:48:08,755 into something that they aren't. 1069 00:48:08,755 --> 00:48:10,800 Or even worse, trying to make them 1070 00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:19,026 like everybody else who is around them. 1071 00:48:19,026 --> 00:48:21,463 I just didn't really enjoy going to school very much. 1072 00:48:21,463 --> 00:48:24,553 Some of the stuff they did didn't really make much sense 1073 00:48:24,553 --> 00:48:26,642 to me. 1074 00:48:26,642 --> 00:48:29,428 Every day, these people were bullying me and stuff. 1075 00:48:29,428 --> 00:48:31,125 And I wasn't learning much. 1076 00:48:31,125 --> 00:48:34,999 Everybody would hang out in like, little groups of people. 1077 00:48:34,999 --> 00:48:38,002 Like, you couldn't hang out with everybody in your class. 1078 00:48:38,002 --> 00:48:41,005 There was just little groups of like, four people. 1079 00:48:41,005 --> 00:48:43,529 And they'd only hang out with each other. 1080 00:48:43,529 --> 00:48:48,186 But like, with homeschooling, I get to like, 1081 00:48:48,186 --> 00:48:49,883 see all of my friends. 1082 00:48:49,883 --> 00:48:52,190 And they don't like, exclude people from certain places. 1083 00:48:52,190 --> 00:48:53,931 There's not like, groups of people 1084 00:48:53,931 --> 00:48:57,717 and only certain people could hang out with them. 1085 00:48:57,717 --> 00:48:59,458 This is my calligraphy set. 1086 00:48:59,458 --> 00:49:01,416 My mom wrote a poetry book once, 1087 00:49:01,416 --> 00:49:04,115 and I illustrated the pictures in it. 1088 00:49:04,115 --> 00:49:10,034 That's one drawing. 1089 00:49:10,034 --> 00:49:11,905 Like, some kids in school, they feel really uptight. 1090 00:49:11,905 --> 00:49:14,603 And they can't like, express their selves. 1091 00:49:14,603 --> 00:49:17,215 And do what they want to do. 1092 00:49:17,215 --> 00:49:20,131 And I feel like I could, you know, be around my friends, 1093 00:49:20,131 --> 00:49:21,959 and like, act like myself. 1094 00:49:21,959 --> 00:49:23,656 I'm more confident that I could go out there 1095 00:49:23,656 --> 00:49:28,661 and do what I feel passionate to do with my life. 1096 00:49:28,661 --> 00:49:31,011 You learn by just doing, I think. 1097 00:49:31,011 --> 00:49:33,057 You know. You don't learn 1098 00:49:33,057 --> 00:49:35,624 by having things check-marked and things. 1099 00:49:35,624 --> 00:49:37,278 The way you kind of learn how to use a camera, 1100 00:49:37,278 --> 00:49:40,194 is toy around with it and figure it out. 1101 00:49:40,194 --> 00:49:44,764 I don't really have to hear a bunch of different teachers, 1102 00:49:44,764 --> 00:49:46,374 going into different classrooms. 1103 00:49:46,374 --> 00:49:47,985 I'm on my own time. 1104 00:49:47,985 --> 00:49:51,075 I'm like okay, now I can do math, now I can do this. 1105 00:49:51,075 --> 00:49:53,033 Just do whatever I need to do. 1106 00:49:53,033 --> 00:49:56,123 And I don't got to worry about cliques or anything like that, 1107 00:49:56,123 --> 00:50:02,129 in high school or anything. 1108 00:50:02,129 --> 00:50:04,958 It's fun to learn, without having to learn. 1109 00:50:04,958 --> 00:50:07,221 And you can just learn whatever you want, when you want. 1110 00:50:07,221 --> 00:50:09,006 And if you're not ready for something, 1111 00:50:09,006 --> 00:50:11,051 you don't have to do it. 1112 00:50:11,051 --> 00:50:14,924 And there's no like, ranks, grades. 1113 00:50:14,924 --> 00:50:19,016 Like, you can do whatever you want and work on it. 1114 00:50:19,016 --> 00:50:21,061 And if somebody asks me, "Hey, 1115 00:50:21,061 --> 00:50:23,107 do you want to learn about this?" 1116 00:50:23,107 --> 00:50:25,196 Then I'll usually say yes. 1117 00:50:25,196 --> 00:50:28,155 Instead of "You got to do this, 1118 00:50:28,155 --> 00:50:32,551 or else you'll not move up a grade." 1119 00:50:32,551 --> 00:50:34,901 Well, one of the great things about unschooling, 1120 00:50:34,901 --> 00:50:37,251 is that it doesn't prepare children 1121 00:50:37,251 --> 00:50:38,948 for a conventional life. 1122 00:50:38,948 --> 00:50:42,517 If you want your children to live an extraordinary life. 1123 00:50:42,517 --> 00:50:44,171 An empowered life. 1124 00:50:44,171 --> 00:50:49,959 A life based in freedom, and creativity, and possibility. 1125 00:50:49,959 --> 00:50:53,615 Then it's great that they're not getting the constant message 1126 00:50:53,615 --> 00:50:54,877 that says. 1127 00:50:54,877 --> 00:50:56,444 You have to jump through all these hoops 1128 00:50:56,444 --> 00:50:59,056 in order to succeed in life. 1129 00:50:59,056 --> 00:51:05,062 Because there's so many ways to succeed. 1130 00:51:05,062 --> 00:51:07,281 And with information so readily accessible, 1131 00:51:07,281 --> 00:51:10,197 the path to success and the employment landscape are 1132 00:51:10,197 --> 00:51:12,330 constantly evolving. 1133 00:51:12,330 --> 00:51:14,506 But I know I have the resources. 1134 00:51:14,506 --> 00:51:16,116 I know that everybody has the resources. 1135 00:51:16,116 --> 00:51:18,118 Particularly with the internet these days. 1136 00:51:18,118 --> 00:51:20,468 Like, you can get anything you need. 1137 00:51:20,468 --> 00:51:23,254 I feel like I'm pretty well prepared for anything 1138 00:51:23,254 --> 00:51:25,299 that comes along my way. 1139 00:51:25,299 --> 00:51:29,608 So many people are stuck in this traditional model of, 1140 00:51:29,608 --> 00:51:31,871 you do well in school. 1141 00:51:31,871 --> 00:51:33,612 You get a college education. 1142 00:51:33,612 --> 00:51:35,527 And then you're going to get a good job. 1143 00:51:35,527 --> 00:51:39,444 You know, the new economy has changed all those rules. 1144 00:51:39,444 --> 00:51:42,186 I mean, there's so many opportunities right now 1145 00:51:42,186 --> 00:51:45,145 for doing things that didn't even exist ten, 1146 00:51:45,145 --> 00:51:50,063 fifteen, twenty years ago. 1147 00:51:50,063 --> 00:51:51,456 I have a lot of education. 1148 00:51:51,456 --> 00:51:53,240 I went to school forever. 1149 00:51:53,240 --> 00:51:55,199 So what did I get out of my education? 1150 00:51:55,199 --> 00:51:59,377 I got student loans that are crippling. 1151 00:51:59,377 --> 00:52:03,424 And I was under the impression that if I stayed in school. 1152 00:52:03,424 --> 00:52:06,079 I did everything that my parents told me to do. 1153 00:52:06,079 --> 00:52:07,776 That I would be successful. 1154 00:52:07,776 --> 00:52:13,826 But that's not the formula. 1155 00:52:13,826 --> 00:52:15,480 Although Rachel and Todd remain committed 1156 00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:17,090 to homeschooling. 1157 00:52:17,090 --> 00:52:19,484 New financial stressors are forcing them 1158 00:52:19,484 --> 00:52:21,181 to reconsider their methods. 1159 00:52:21,181 --> 00:52:23,923 We are going through financial upheaval. 1160 00:52:23,923 --> 00:52:27,796 It's not quite like a crisis. 1161 00:52:27,796 --> 00:52:29,668 But we just have a lot going on. 1162 00:52:29,668 --> 00:52:32,758 I partner in a video game studio. 1163 00:52:32,758 --> 00:52:34,977 And we lost some contracts. 1164 00:52:34,977 --> 00:52:39,547 So we couldn't hit payroll for just too long. 1165 00:52:39,547 --> 00:52:42,071 And we all just, we acquired some debt and stuff. 1166 00:52:42,071 --> 00:52:44,726 But, so I had to get another job. 1167 00:52:44,726 --> 00:52:47,076 But I'm kind of working both, because I still want 1168 00:52:47,076 --> 00:52:48,991 to keep my studio on track. 1169 00:52:48,991 --> 00:52:51,298 But it's just been really tough. 1170 00:52:51,298 --> 00:52:54,780 After much consideration, Rachel has signed the girls 1171 00:52:54,780 --> 00:52:57,609 up for a local independent charter school. 1172 00:52:57,609 --> 00:53:00,568 The reasons that we decided to try 1173 00:53:00,568 --> 00:53:04,050 out the charter school was because -- well, it's twofold. 1174 00:53:04,050 --> 00:53:06,270 Partly because they give us funding. 1175 00:53:06,270 --> 00:53:07,793 That was the main reason. 1176 00:53:07,793 --> 00:53:12,798 They give us money for materials or classes. 1177 00:53:12,798 --> 00:53:16,802 And I do like the idea of having a little bit of oversight. 1178 00:53:16,802 --> 00:53:20,849 I mean, we might explore things that we wouldn't otherwise. 1179 00:53:20,849 --> 00:53:22,982 There's a difference between charter schools 1180 00:53:22,982 --> 00:53:24,766 and independent study charter schools. 1181 00:53:24,766 --> 00:53:27,552 An independent study charter school is basically a 1182 00:53:27,552 --> 00:53:28,901 public school, 1183 00:53:28,901 --> 00:53:31,164 funded by state, you know, state funds. 1184 00:53:31,164 --> 00:53:34,298 But it's for families that want their kids to not be 1185 00:53:34,298 --> 00:53:35,603 in the brick and mortar. 1186 00:53:35,603 --> 00:53:37,605 To basically learn at home in their way. 1187 00:53:37,605 --> 00:53:39,128 Still following state guidelines. 1188 00:53:39,128 --> 00:53:41,130 Still having to do the state testing. 1189 00:53:41,130 --> 00:53:43,132 But they can do their own style of learning. 1190 00:53:43,132 --> 00:53:44,917 They can have differentiated instruction 1191 00:53:44,917 --> 00:53:47,659 that they might not have in a regular classroom. 1192 00:53:47,659 --> 00:53:50,618 Independent study regulations in California require 1193 00:53:50,618 --> 00:53:52,011 that the student meet 1194 00:53:52,011 --> 00:53:54,143 with a credentialed educational specialist, 1195 00:53:54,143 --> 00:53:57,930 or ES, on a regular basis. 1196 00:53:57,930 --> 00:54:01,586 My role as an ES is to monitor children that are 1197 00:54:01,586 --> 00:54:02,848 in the charter school. 1198 00:54:02,848 --> 00:54:04,676 The independent study charter school. 1199 00:54:04,676 --> 00:54:07,200 To make sure they're following state standards. 1200 00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:09,115 They're learning what they need to learn. 1201 00:54:09,115 --> 00:54:11,160 They're taking the mandated state testing. 1202 00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:14,468 And it's really just to keep the parents on track. 1203 00:54:14,468 --> 00:54:17,863 Over at his office, Thomas is helping the girls 1204 00:54:17,863 --> 00:54:20,300 with their first science assignment. 1205 00:54:20,300 --> 00:54:24,609 I feel a lot more comfortable now, as they move into like, 1206 00:54:24,609 --> 00:54:27,133 this -- a little bit more structure. 1207 00:54:27,133 --> 00:54:29,309 There's a little check there that I like. 1208 00:54:29,309 --> 00:54:32,356 I didn't expect to join like, a little school. 1209 00:54:32,356 --> 00:54:35,010 I expected to just kind of stay away from all that. 1210 00:54:35,010 --> 00:54:38,057 But it's nice, because they fund classes that we do. 1211 00:54:38,057 --> 00:54:41,321 Like, me and Lily are both going to take guitar and voice now. 1212 00:54:41,321 --> 00:54:42,975 And they're paying for it. 1213 00:54:42,975 --> 00:54:44,716 And I'm taking French, which they're paying for as well. 1214 00:54:44,716 --> 00:54:46,152 A lot of parents sign 1215 00:54:46,152 --> 00:54:49,198 up for charter schools simply for the funding. 1216 00:54:49,198 --> 00:54:50,199 And you know what? 1217 00:54:50,199 --> 00:54:51,636 I have no problem with that. 1218 00:54:51,636 --> 00:54:53,377 As long as they fill their end of the bargain, 1219 00:54:53,377 --> 00:54:55,248 which is to do the work. 1220 00:54:55,248 --> 00:54:56,771 You know, make sure their kids are following those 1221 00:54:56,771 --> 00:54:58,120 state standards. 1222 00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:00,384 Participating in the state testing. 1223 00:55:00,384 --> 00:55:03,822 Being respectful to their ES and to our school rules. 1224 00:55:03,822 --> 00:55:05,563 They can have the funding. 1225 00:55:05,563 --> 00:55:08,087 Lily is studying like, life science is what they call it. 1226 00:55:08,087 --> 00:55:11,525 It's kind of Biology, really general Biology. 1227 00:55:11,525 --> 00:55:16,922 Ana is, her lesson today is about just statistical analysis. 1228 00:55:16,922 --> 00:55:21,361 Or like, how a scientist develops an experiment. 1229 00:55:21,361 --> 00:55:22,928 After reading through the textbook, 1230 00:55:22,928 --> 00:55:24,277 Thomas and the girls decide 1231 00:55:24,277 --> 00:55:26,279 to put their own spin on the assignment. 1232 00:55:26,279 --> 00:55:28,716 And take the learning outside. 1233 00:55:28,716 --> 00:55:30,414 We have a cool camera. 1234 00:55:30,414 --> 00:55:32,198 We're going to take a laptop out, and somebody can take like, 1235 00:55:32,198 --> 00:55:34,896 screenshots of whatever bugs we find. 1236 00:55:34,896 --> 00:55:36,855 And this thing really blows stuff up, 1237 00:55:36,855 --> 00:55:38,291 so it will be pretty cool. 1238 00:55:38,291 --> 00:55:39,901 It kind of fits in with both of our things. 1239 00:55:39,901 --> 00:55:51,173 So I think it will work out, but it wasn't in the book. 1240 00:55:51,173 --> 00:55:54,046 I'm seeing no bugs in here. 1241 00:55:54,046 --> 00:55:58,093 I don't think we chose a very good spot. 1242 00:55:58,093 --> 00:55:59,573 Is that a turd or a seed? 1243 00:55:59,573 --> 00:56:01,053 That was a seed. 1244 00:56:01,053 --> 00:56:08,582 Location number one is a bust. 1245 00:56:08,582 --> 00:56:13,239 Oh, it's cute. 1246 00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:16,285 I love Roly-Poly's. 1247 00:56:16,285 --> 00:56:18,070 You documenting all this? 1248 00:56:18,070 --> 00:56:21,639 And then we saw an earthworm, and a black bug. 1249 00:56:21,639 --> 00:56:22,683 But we didn't capture it. 1250 00:56:22,683 --> 00:56:29,081 But I saw it and my dad saw it. 1251 00:56:29,081 --> 00:56:30,343 Ana, start gathering your stuff, 1252 00:56:30,343 --> 00:56:32,911 getting it organized by subject. 1253 00:56:32,911 --> 00:56:38,046 Okay. 1254 00:56:38,046 --> 00:56:42,399 We are having our first meeting with our ES today. 1255 00:56:42,399 --> 00:56:45,489 And I'm really nervous about it. 1256 00:56:45,489 --> 00:56:50,842 She has a reputation for being pretty stiff. 1257 00:56:50,842 --> 00:56:53,584 This is a learning plan. 1258 00:56:53,584 --> 00:56:57,326 And I have to fill out what curriculum we're using. 1259 00:56:57,326 --> 00:57:01,505 What skills, concepts and standards we're covering. 1260 00:57:01,505 --> 00:57:02,897 The assignments they did. 1261 00:57:02,897 --> 00:57:06,553 Any assessments, follow up notes. 1262 00:57:06,553 --> 00:57:10,078 It's a lot of administrative paperwork. 1263 00:57:10,078 --> 00:57:13,038 So, today I'm showing the ES everything 1264 00:57:13,038 --> 00:57:15,736 out of my science section. 1265 00:57:15,736 --> 00:57:19,131 This is our project that we did yesterday with Dad. 1266 00:57:19,131 --> 00:57:22,351 These are the exact books that we turned in last year. 1267 00:57:22,351 --> 00:57:24,615 I don't have to use them. 1268 00:57:24,615 --> 00:57:27,095 But we're trying them out. 1269 00:57:27,095 --> 00:57:30,447 She has to see everything they've done, graded. 1270 00:57:30,447 --> 00:57:34,276 And then she is -- she has to take a sample 1271 00:57:34,276 --> 00:57:36,975 with her from each subject. 1272 00:57:36,975 --> 00:57:40,021 Instead of oversight, it feels more like an overlord 1273 00:57:40,021 --> 00:57:42,763 that we're having to answer to. 1274 00:57:42,763 --> 00:57:46,027 And we're actually doing things only 1275 00:57:46,027 --> 00:57:54,079 so that we can show her that we did it. 1276 00:57:54,079 --> 00:57:55,602 When she heard about the science experiment, 1277 00:57:55,602 --> 00:57:57,299 she wasn't interested in what it was at all. 1278 00:57:57,299 --> 00:57:59,171 She was just, like, okay, can I see the lab write up? 1279 00:57:59,171 --> 00:58:01,260 And Lily's like, sure. 1280 00:58:01,260 --> 00:58:02,957 And so she tries to explain. 1281 00:58:02,957 --> 00:58:04,916 And so, she's like, I just need the lab write up, thank you. 1282 00:58:04,916 --> 00:58:07,962 She doesn't really want to get to know us, I can tell. 1283 00:58:07,962 --> 00:58:10,443 I feel like we should have some sort of relationship with her. 1284 00:58:10,443 --> 00:58:12,663 If we're going to stay with the charter school, 1285 00:58:12,663 --> 00:58:14,708 and she's going to stay our ES. 1286 00:58:14,708 --> 00:58:16,275 Which I'm hoping she doesn't, 1287 00:58:16,275 --> 00:58:20,061 because it's making it stressful. 1288 00:58:20,061 --> 00:58:23,456 She actually taught us how to jump through the hoops better. 1289 00:58:23,456 --> 00:58:25,371 She taught us -- she told us 1290 00:58:25,371 --> 00:58:28,113 where to find some online quizzes that were really easy. 1291 00:58:28,113 --> 00:58:31,899 That we could print out to give her to show her, as work. 1292 00:58:31,899 --> 00:58:34,162 It didn't mean that the girls were going to learn anything. 1293 00:58:34,162 --> 00:58:35,816 It was just a matter of, alright. 1294 00:58:35,816 --> 00:58:38,123 Let's print this out, so we can hand it over to someone. 1295 00:58:38,123 --> 00:58:43,215 So they can make sure that we're learning. 1296 00:58:43,215 --> 00:58:46,131 We're all really obsessed with products 1297 00:58:46,131 --> 00:58:49,351 in this consumer society of ours. 1298 00:58:49,351 --> 00:58:53,791 And we're also obsessed with it in schooling -- product. 1299 00:58:53,791 --> 00:58:54,618 What did you do? 1300 00:58:54,618 --> 00:58:55,444 How did you perform? 1301 00:58:55,444 --> 00:58:56,402 What's your grade? 1302 00:58:56,402 --> 00:58:57,446 Show me the test score. 1303 00:58:57,446 --> 00:59:00,101 Show me the work that you did. 1304 00:59:00,101 --> 00:59:02,800 Whereas in homeschooling, it doesn't have to be that. 1305 00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:06,760 It can be about the process and the journey of just learning. 1306 00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:08,806 Because when we learn in that way, 1307 00:59:08,806 --> 00:59:11,243 everything we learn is internalized. 1308 00:59:11,243 --> 00:59:14,420 And it stays with us for a really long time. 1309 00:59:14,420 --> 00:59:16,814 I think there are creative teachers. 1310 00:59:16,814 --> 00:59:19,294 I think there are innovative teachers. 1311 00:59:19,294 --> 00:59:21,470 And especially in the public school, 1312 00:59:21,470 --> 00:59:23,429 I think they are handcuffed. 1313 00:59:23,429 --> 00:59:24,735 Not only are they dealing with kids 1314 00:59:24,735 --> 00:59:26,345 that don't want to be there. 1315 00:59:26,345 --> 00:59:29,957 But they're dealing with school boards and legislators. 1316 00:59:29,957 --> 00:59:32,307 And there are a whole lot 1317 00:59:32,307 --> 00:59:36,094 of constraints built into the system. 1318 00:59:36,094 --> 00:59:38,879 I wish we could replace compulsory education 1319 00:59:38,879 --> 00:59:41,534 with a smorgasbord of learning opportunities. 1320 00:59:41,534 --> 00:59:42,840 And it could be much more 1321 00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:45,233 like the junior college and college model. 1322 00:59:45,233 --> 00:59:47,584 Where the kids get to pick classes. 1323 00:59:47,584 --> 00:59:49,194 And they get to pick teachers. 1324 00:59:49,194 --> 00:59:51,849 Because not every teacher is right for every student. 1325 00:59:51,849 --> 00:59:55,026 And not every class is interesting. 1326 00:59:55,026 --> 00:59:57,898 So what would it look like if children really did have 1327 00:59:57,898 --> 00:59:59,247 a choice? 1328 00:59:59,247 --> 01:00:04,078 What if they could pick their own classes? 1329 01:00:04,078 --> 01:00:06,864 Just outside Portland, Oregon is a place 1330 01:00:06,864 --> 01:00:08,692 that is turning the conventional notions 1331 01:00:08,692 --> 01:00:12,609 of classroom learning on its head. 1332 01:00:12,609 --> 01:00:14,480 Village Home is a learning community 1333 01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:16,221 for families that homeschool. 1334 01:00:16,221 --> 01:00:20,791 And we are a place where we deliver individualized education 1335 01:00:20,791 --> 01:00:23,707 in a community setting. 1336 01:00:23,707 --> 01:00:27,014 At first blush, when you walk in, it looks like some tables 1337 01:00:27,014 --> 01:00:28,581 and chairs and kids sitting in them. 1338 01:00:28,581 --> 01:00:30,539 And somebody at the front teaching. 1339 01:00:30,539 --> 01:00:32,063 But it's really not a school. 1340 01:00:32,063 --> 01:00:34,979 What is different is the internal reality 1341 01:00:34,979 --> 01:00:36,284 for the children. 1342 01:00:36,284 --> 01:00:38,504 They are making a choice to be there. 1343 01:00:38,504 --> 01:00:44,075 And they have been trusted by their families, by the teachers. 1344 01:00:44,075 --> 01:00:46,164 To have a voice in their own education. 1345 01:00:46,164 --> 01:00:49,689 And so, they're owning that experience in a way 1346 01:00:49,689 --> 01:00:55,042 that is very different. 1347 01:00:55,042 --> 01:00:56,957 On that first CD, where it says class equals purple, 1348 01:00:56,957 --> 01:00:58,480 ID equals purple. 1349 01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:00,352 If you put ID equals purple there, it will apply 1350 01:01:00,352 --> 01:01:01,788 that style right away. 1351 01:01:01,788 --> 01:01:03,355 As soon as the page is rendered. 1352 01:01:03,355 --> 01:01:07,576 Village Home offers a huge range of different ages 1353 01:01:07,576 --> 01:01:10,754 and different topics and different subjects of classes. 1354 01:01:10,754 --> 01:01:13,757 That you can take to supplement your learning 1355 01:01:13,757 --> 01:01:15,410 that you do at home. 1356 01:01:15,410 --> 01:01:18,892 Or, you know, some people are taking Village full-time. 1357 01:01:18,892 --> 01:01:21,765 Really, the backbone of what we're about is choice. 1358 01:01:21,765 --> 01:01:26,770 And we don't think that learning can happen if somebody is not 1359 01:01:26,770 --> 01:01:29,903 at choice in that equation. 1360 01:01:29,903 --> 01:01:32,776 All the students really want to be there, 1361 01:01:32,776 --> 01:01:34,342 and they want to learn. 1362 01:01:34,342 --> 01:01:36,693 So it really changes the environment 1363 01:01:36,693 --> 01:01:38,564 versus like, public schooling. 1364 01:01:38,564 --> 01:01:41,175 Where they're all just counting the time 1365 01:01:41,175 --> 01:01:43,134 until it's lunch or recess. 1366 01:01:43,134 --> 01:01:44,788 Here's the question on number two. 1367 01:01:44,788 --> 01:01:48,443 To our family, homeschooling is more about the fact 1368 01:01:48,443 --> 01:01:50,141 that our family is directing that. 1369 01:01:50,141 --> 01:01:52,534 Rather than some school district, or some state, 1370 01:01:52,534 --> 01:01:54,319 or some federal mandate saying. 1371 01:01:54,319 --> 01:01:56,974 You know, this is where, when, and what your child will learn. 1372 01:01:56,974 --> 01:01:59,193 Jack is someone who's grown up, 1373 01:01:59,193 --> 01:02:03,241 realizing that he has a very big say in what he's going to learn. 1374 01:02:03,241 --> 01:02:05,330 And what he's going to invest his time in. 1375 01:02:05,330 --> 01:02:07,767 And it's very different from kids 1376 01:02:07,767 --> 01:02:11,031 who have been basically told what they're going to learn. 1377 01:02:11,031 --> 01:02:13,033 And maybe they get one elective. 1378 01:02:13,033 --> 01:02:16,776 Our teachers have a lot of free rein to do what they want 1379 01:02:16,776 --> 01:02:18,038 to do in the classroom. 1380 01:02:18,038 --> 01:02:19,997 And to be themselves in the classroom. 1381 01:02:19,997 --> 01:02:22,390 And that's actually an important part of the community too. 1382 01:02:22,390 --> 01:02:25,045 Is that there's a lot of trust built into our system. 1383 01:02:25,045 --> 01:02:26,525 Introduction will be something 1384 01:02:26,525 --> 01:02:28,657 that we are going to do as a group. 1385 01:02:28,657 --> 01:02:30,572 I don't necessarily want 1386 01:02:30,572 --> 01:02:33,924 to be an absolute authority in the class. 1387 01:02:33,924 --> 01:02:37,362 Because I think the kids are as important to the class 1388 01:02:37,362 --> 01:02:40,191 as any other aspect that I can think of. 1389 01:02:40,191 --> 01:02:41,583 And, in fact, I think that one of the reasons 1390 01:02:41,583 --> 01:02:43,324 that I've been successful as a teacher. 1391 01:02:43,324 --> 01:02:45,849 Is because the kids realize that I'm not the person that's going 1392 01:02:45,849 --> 01:02:49,591 to be the authority in that overt sense. 1393 01:02:49,591 --> 01:02:52,725 I'm the guy that's going to let them have a participatory role 1394 01:02:52,725 --> 01:02:56,120 in these conversations. 1395 01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:59,297 One of the things about Village Home, in particular, 1396 01:02:59,297 --> 01:03:00,733 that is a real strength. 1397 01:03:00,733 --> 01:03:02,822 And this is true in home education in general. 1398 01:03:02,822 --> 01:03:04,868 Is you have mixed-age learning. 1399 01:03:04,868 --> 01:03:08,480 And mixed-age learning is so powerful. 1400 01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:11,265 Ready? 1401 01:03:11,265 --> 01:03:12,092 Point. 1402 01:03:12,092 --> 01:03:13,746 Flex. 1403 01:03:13,746 --> 01:03:16,618 The tap and ballet class is being led by a student 1404 01:03:16,618 --> 01:03:18,707 at Village Home who is sixteen. 1405 01:03:18,707 --> 01:03:20,318 And she's an accomplished dancer. 1406 01:03:20,318 --> 01:03:23,538 And she wanted to provide an intro to tap and ballet. 1407 01:03:23,538 --> 01:03:25,105 So she proposed a course. 1408 01:03:25,105 --> 01:03:27,151 And we put it in the catalog. 1409 01:03:27,151 --> 01:03:31,938 And so, the kids can definitely express their leadership. 1410 01:03:31,938 --> 01:03:34,593 By providing learning opportunities for other kids 1411 01:03:34,593 --> 01:03:41,034 in formal ways, and not just informal ways. 1412 01:03:41,034 --> 01:03:45,038 All of the research indicates that the intrinsic motivation 1413 01:03:45,038 --> 01:03:47,911 to learn declines through adolescence. 1414 01:03:47,911 --> 01:03:49,477 And what we're finding 1415 01:03:49,477 --> 01:03:51,828 in our setting is actually the opposite of that. 1416 01:03:51,828 --> 01:03:56,049 It's our teens that are asking for more, and digging deeper, 1417 01:03:56,049 --> 01:03:58,138 and exploring new areas. 1418 01:03:58,138 --> 01:04:00,924 We should put in more sample tags. 1419 01:04:00,924 --> 01:04:02,621 We want more classes. 1420 01:04:02,621 --> 01:04:03,970 We want them longer. 1421 01:04:03,970 --> 01:04:05,929 We want to be able to delve deeper 1422 01:04:05,929 --> 01:04:09,541 into the material and have more fun. 1423 01:04:09,541 --> 01:04:12,457 Because this is what we are interested in. 1424 01:04:12,457 --> 01:04:17,070 And our interests, our learning, becomes our fun. 1425 01:04:17,070 --> 01:04:18,680 I think the best thing we're doing 1426 01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:22,075 for the teens is we're not isolating them from life. 1427 01:04:22,075 --> 01:04:24,861 These kids at Village Home and that are being homeschooled, 1428 01:04:24,861 --> 01:04:27,037 are engaging in the real world. 1429 01:04:27,037 --> 01:04:36,481 And learning isn't separated from life. 1430 01:04:36,481 --> 01:04:38,831 Hi Amy, it's Rachel. 1431 01:04:38,831 --> 01:04:41,703 After six months of frustration with the system. 1432 01:04:41,703 --> 01:04:44,010 Rachel has decided to part ways 1433 01:04:44,010 --> 01:04:49,015 with the charter school, for good. 1434 01:04:49,015 --> 01:04:51,452 I want to talk to you about, you know, 1435 01:04:51,452 --> 01:04:55,021 our future in the charter school. 1436 01:04:55,021 --> 01:04:57,806 And kind of what we're thinking. 1437 01:04:57,806 --> 01:05:00,722 Being part of the charter school wasn't part 1438 01:05:00,722 --> 01:05:02,986 of the homeschool experience that I wanted to have. 1439 01:05:02,986 --> 01:05:05,466 I still had to meet the same requirements 1440 01:05:05,466 --> 01:05:06,990 that I did at school. 1441 01:05:06,990 --> 01:05:09,731 And I still had to write essays and things like that, 1442 01:05:09,731 --> 01:05:11,995 that I had no interest in. 1443 01:05:11,995 --> 01:05:14,998 And so, I'm really glad to be free of that. 1444 01:05:14,998 --> 01:05:17,348 Okay, so girls, I don't know why. 1445 01:05:17,348 --> 01:05:19,567 But for some reason, we have to still meet, 1446 01:05:19,567 --> 01:05:22,396 even though we just quit the school. 1447 01:05:22,396 --> 01:05:24,746 We still have to meet with her one more time. 1448 01:05:24,746 --> 01:05:27,662 Turn in samples in every subject, 1449 01:05:27,662 --> 01:05:29,229 and show her our attendance log. 1450 01:05:29,229 --> 01:05:31,362 Uh, wait, we have to do one for every subject? 1451 01:05:31,362 --> 01:05:32,885 Every subject. 1452 01:05:32,885 --> 01:05:34,104 We thought it would a really good middle ground 1453 01:05:34,104 --> 01:05:38,412 between school and homeschool. 1454 01:05:38,412 --> 01:05:41,633 And it turned out to be just school again. 1455 01:05:41,633 --> 01:05:46,290 We were doing a lot of jumping through hoops. 1456 01:05:46,290 --> 01:05:48,945 Having to meet their requirements. 1457 01:05:48,945 --> 01:05:52,513 Which ended up being busy work and not necessarily educational. 1458 01:05:52,513 --> 01:05:54,689 My guess is there was a pretty low retention rate 1459 01:05:54,689 --> 01:05:56,126 on what they did. 1460 01:05:56,126 --> 01:05:57,605 Because they weren't doing it 1461 01:05:57,605 --> 01:05:59,172 because they were interested in it. 1462 01:05:59,172 --> 01:06:01,827 They were doing it because someone told them they had 1463 01:06:01,827 --> 01:06:03,394 to do it. 1464 01:06:03,394 --> 01:06:05,048 We also have to turn in all of our textbooks. 1465 01:06:05,048 --> 01:06:07,050 So we have to gather those up. 1466 01:06:07,050 --> 01:06:08,181 I'm a little bit nervous 1467 01:06:08,181 --> 01:06:09,748 about quitting the charter school. 1468 01:06:09,748 --> 01:06:11,184 Just because I felt like it was keeping me on track. 1469 01:06:11,184 --> 01:06:14,100 And it was my anchor, I guess. 1470 01:06:14,100 --> 01:06:16,973 But I feel good about it, 1471 01:06:16,973 --> 01:06:19,062 because it was so much like school. 1472 01:06:19,062 --> 01:06:22,195 Okay, do you want to give some samples 1473 01:06:22,195 --> 01:06:24,284 that you didn't turn in before? 1474 01:06:24,284 --> 01:06:26,199 It's hard to feel confident. 1475 01:06:26,199 --> 01:06:28,462 There's so many unknowns in what we're doing. 1476 01:06:28,462 --> 01:06:30,595 The path isn't laid out for us. 1477 01:06:30,595 --> 01:06:38,298 You know, I feel a little panic over, you know, now what? 1478 01:06:38,298 --> 01:06:43,347 I don't know what we're going to do now. 1479 01:06:43,347 --> 01:06:44,304 Please. 1480 01:06:44,304 --> 01:06:46,045 Don't. Lily, I'm serious. 1481 01:06:46,045 --> 01:06:49,353 To make matters worse, Ana and Lily are getting 1482 01:06:49,353 --> 01:06:51,398 on each other's nerves. 1483 01:06:51,398 --> 01:06:53,966 We're all kind of driving each other nuts. 1484 01:06:53,966 --> 01:06:56,186 I am frustrated with them a lot. 1485 01:06:56,186 --> 01:07:01,060 I think that we're just kind of stuck in the house too much. 1486 01:07:01,060 --> 01:07:04,107 Just let me be in your room with you. 1487 01:07:04,107 --> 01:07:05,499 You know, I just think that we need to get 1488 01:07:05,499 --> 01:07:06,718 out of the house more. 1489 01:07:06,718 --> 01:07:12,550 And we need more social interaction. 1490 01:07:12,550 --> 01:07:15,509 Rachel finds a few online homeschool networks specific 1491 01:07:15,509 --> 01:07:16,902 to her community. 1492 01:07:16,902 --> 01:07:19,209 And finds many opportunities to get outside 1493 01:07:19,209 --> 01:07:22,081 and meet other homeschoolers. 1494 01:07:22,081 --> 01:07:25,693 I went to the beach recently with a homeschooling network. 1495 01:07:25,693 --> 01:07:28,609 So I got to meet a whole bunch of people. 1496 01:07:28,609 --> 01:07:30,655 I think that being at school for all 1497 01:07:30,655 --> 01:07:33,614 of that time really does define who you are. 1498 01:07:33,614 --> 01:07:39,664 A lot of girls have to be very fake, instead of being real. 1499 01:07:39,664 --> 01:07:43,233 When I meet other homeschoolers, they ask things more like, 1500 01:07:43,233 --> 01:07:45,017 what are you interested in? 1501 01:07:45,017 --> 01:07:47,759 And like, where have you lived? 1502 01:07:47,759 --> 01:07:50,109 Where do you want to go? 1503 01:07:50,109 --> 01:07:51,415 Ever since I've been out of school, 1504 01:07:51,415 --> 01:07:53,025 I feel like I've been a lot more myself. 1505 01:07:53,025 --> 01:07:55,854 Than I ever have been in a really long time. 1506 01:07:55,854 --> 01:07:59,466 I get to just be myself now. 1507 01:07:59,466 --> 01:08:02,295 It blows me away that after all these years, 1508 01:08:02,295 --> 01:08:03,862 there's still the question, 1509 01:08:03,862 --> 01:08:05,429 what about socialization? 1510 01:08:05,429 --> 01:08:09,128 What happens when they get out in the real world? 1511 01:08:09,128 --> 01:08:18,181 And, you know, you just -- they never left the real world. 1512 01:08:18,181 --> 01:08:19,834 I love the question of how do you socialize. 1513 01:08:19,834 --> 01:08:20,661 I think that's my favorite. 1514 01:08:20,661 --> 01:08:21,662 Because, I'm like -- 1515 01:08:21,662 --> 01:08:22,968 Do you have any friends? 1516 01:08:22,968 --> 01:08:24,361 Well, I'm talking to you right now. 1517 01:08:24,361 --> 01:08:26,624 And this is kind of how it works, it's a back 1518 01:08:26,624 --> 01:08:27,799 and forth conversation. 1519 01:08:27,799 --> 01:08:28,626 Like, how do you think I socialize? 1520 01:08:28,626 --> 01:08:30,323 Like everybody else. 1521 01:08:30,323 --> 01:08:31,846 Every homeschooler, every homeschooled kid, 1522 01:08:31,846 --> 01:08:34,327 that's like the first -- either that or academics. 1523 01:08:34,327 --> 01:08:35,633 That's always what people ask. 1524 01:08:35,633 --> 01:08:36,895 Are you socialized? 1525 01:08:36,895 --> 01:08:40,159 What does it mean to be socialized? 1526 01:08:40,159 --> 01:08:41,552 One of the things I like about my kids, 1527 01:08:41,552 --> 01:08:43,641 is that they're able to socialize with adults. 1528 01:08:43,641 --> 01:08:45,947 You know, they're able to talk to adults like they're people. 1529 01:08:45,947 --> 01:08:47,601 Because I talk to my kids like they're people. 1530 01:08:47,601 --> 01:08:50,952 I can always tell when I'm interacting with a child, 1531 01:08:50,952 --> 01:08:53,172 if they have learned outside the classroom. 1532 01:08:53,172 --> 01:08:54,608 Because they look me in the eye. 1533 01:08:54,608 --> 01:08:56,436 They're comfortable talking with me. 1534 01:08:56,436 --> 01:08:58,569 They're comfortable with themselves. 1535 01:08:58,569 --> 01:09:00,136 It's so clear. 1536 01:09:00,136 --> 01:09:02,312 School is about preparing kids for the real world. 1537 01:09:02,312 --> 01:09:04,879 But then we don't let them get involved in the real world 1538 01:09:04,879 --> 01:09:07,708 for the full time that they're in these institutions. 1539 01:09:07,708 --> 01:09:09,580 Somebody who is opposed to home education. 1540 01:09:09,580 --> 01:09:11,930 The only thing they can pull out is, well, how do we know 1541 01:09:11,930 --> 01:09:13,584 that they're being socialized? 1542 01:09:13,584 --> 01:09:15,803 As if getting your lunch money stolen and getting beaten 1543 01:09:15,803 --> 01:09:20,243 up on your way to class is socialization. 1544 01:09:20,243 --> 01:09:21,722 So let's get you set. 1545 01:09:21,722 --> 01:09:23,115 Do you need three? 1546 01:09:23,115 --> 01:09:24,812 Things are starting to get a lot better. 1547 01:09:24,812 --> 01:09:27,032 We've started connecting 1548 01:09:27,032 --> 01:09:29,687 with some local homeschool groups, which has been great. 1549 01:09:29,687 --> 01:09:32,951 Because the girls are making connections there. 1550 01:09:32,951 --> 01:09:35,823 Also, I think I'm starting to kind of let go 1551 01:09:35,823 --> 01:09:37,216 and relax a little bit. 1552 01:09:37,216 --> 01:09:39,958 I'm amazed at how much I'm learning now. 1553 01:09:39,958 --> 01:09:44,571 And it's not that I have more opportunities to learn now. 1554 01:09:44,571 --> 01:09:48,836 But I'm taking more opportunities 1555 01:09:48,836 --> 01:09:50,577 to be part of learning. 1556 01:09:50,577 --> 01:09:58,281 And to just engage with life in a more rich and fulfilling way. 1557 01:09:58,281 --> 01:10:00,413 What? Can't you ask me for help? 1558 01:10:00,413 --> 01:10:03,286 Many of us start, thinking that we're homeschooling 1559 01:10:03,286 --> 01:10:06,811 because we're going to give this great education to our children. 1560 01:10:06,811 --> 01:10:09,553 But once you get into it, 1561 01:10:09,553 --> 01:10:13,121 you realize that it's much more a lifestyle. 1562 01:10:13,121 --> 01:10:14,035 Good morning. 1563 01:10:14,035 --> 01:10:15,515 Rise and shine. 1564 01:10:15,515 --> 01:10:17,430 It's been twelve months of this new lifestyle. 1565 01:10:17,430 --> 01:10:20,564 Todd, Rachel, Ana and Lily are finally learning 1566 01:10:20,564 --> 01:10:23,262 to relax into it. 1567 01:10:23,262 --> 01:10:26,134 And it's changing the family dynamics. 1568 01:10:26,134 --> 01:10:28,963 It's changing everything about my life. 1569 01:10:28,963 --> 01:10:33,403 It reaches into every part of my life. 1570 01:10:33,403 --> 01:10:36,710 It's been really nice to have a lot more relaxed approach 1571 01:10:36,710 --> 01:10:38,408 to our days. 1572 01:10:38,408 --> 01:10:42,586 To have them be joyful, and not, you know, full of stress. 1573 01:10:42,586 --> 01:10:48,722 And rushing, and anxiety, and yelling, and stuff like that. 1574 01:10:48,722 --> 01:10:50,071 They've been given permission to kind 1575 01:10:50,071 --> 01:10:51,986 of pursue their own interests. 1576 01:10:51,986 --> 01:10:54,772 And they're free to basically go 1577 01:10:54,772 --> 01:11:00,038 down any creative path they want. 1578 01:11:00,038 --> 01:11:01,909 I want to show them what I'm passionate about. 1579 01:11:01,909 --> 01:11:03,694 Like, unapologetically. 1580 01:11:03,694 --> 01:11:05,435 It's like, you can take it or leave it. 1581 01:11:05,435 --> 01:11:06,740 You don't have to do it. 1582 01:11:06,740 --> 01:11:08,568 But, and obviously art is that for me. 1583 01:11:08,568 --> 01:11:10,135 And, you know, as it turns out, 1584 01:11:10,135 --> 01:11:17,273 they both do a lot of visual art. 1585 01:11:17,273 --> 01:11:19,927 Okay, so these are the four main characters. 1586 01:11:19,927 --> 01:11:21,668 Let me tell you a little bit about each one, 1587 01:11:21,668 --> 01:11:23,322 so you guys know what to do. 1588 01:11:23,322 --> 01:11:25,324 We're working on a little family friendly puzzle game. 1589 01:11:25,324 --> 01:11:28,588 And so, we have a little cast of characters. 1590 01:11:28,588 --> 01:11:30,111 They're kind of cute, you know. 1591 01:11:30,111 --> 01:11:31,069 Just come up with some ideas. 1592 01:11:31,069 --> 01:11:32,331 There's no wrong answers. 1593 01:11:32,331 --> 01:11:35,595 This is the time called brainstorming. 1594 01:11:35,595 --> 01:11:39,382 I have Lily working on some costume designs 1595 01:11:39,382 --> 01:11:42,385 for this Valkyrie, kind 1596 01:11:42,385 --> 01:11:46,258 of Viking warrior girl that we need. 1597 01:11:46,258 --> 01:11:50,523 And then Ana is drawing a fairy. 1598 01:11:50,523 --> 01:11:51,959 They dig it. 1599 01:11:51,959 --> 01:11:57,574 Any chance to create, they're just thrilled. 1600 01:11:57,574 --> 01:11:58,705 Okay, tell me what you're thinking. 1601 01:11:58,705 --> 01:12:00,054 It's exciting, look at that. 1602 01:12:00,054 --> 01:12:01,404 Well, I was thinking like, 1603 01:12:01,404 --> 01:12:04,189 I was going to make this more like that. 1604 01:12:04,189 --> 01:12:05,538 So she can run in it. 1605 01:12:05,538 --> 01:12:07,105 Yeah, that's good. 1606 01:12:07,105 --> 01:12:10,935 They have open access to the art software that I use. 1607 01:12:10,935 --> 01:12:15,809 And, in fact, I leave the art I'm doing professionally 1608 01:12:15,809 --> 01:12:17,333 on my screen. 1609 01:12:17,333 --> 01:12:18,682 And oftentimes, they'll just come and work on it. 1610 01:12:18,682 --> 01:12:20,553 I'll make sure there's saved versions, 1611 01:12:20,553 --> 01:12:22,686 so they can't screw up anything. 1612 01:12:22,686 --> 01:12:24,601 I like her hair being really long too. 1613 01:12:24,601 --> 01:12:27,691 That might be cool, if it was as long as she is tall. 1614 01:12:27,691 --> 01:12:29,040 Longer. 1615 01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:31,347 I just let them fully into my universe, 1616 01:12:31,347 --> 01:12:41,052 and we'll see what happens. 1617 01:12:41,052 --> 01:12:42,880 I'm learning so much about my kids. 1618 01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:45,012 It's amazing how much I'm learning 1619 01:12:45,012 --> 01:12:47,188 about their personalities, that I didn't know 1620 01:12:47,188 --> 01:12:48,668 when they were in school. 1621 01:12:48,668 --> 01:12:51,192 Lily is very determined. 1622 01:12:51,192 --> 01:12:53,804 She's always trying to figure out what things she needs to do 1623 01:12:53,804 --> 01:12:56,241 to get from where she is to where she wants to go. 1624 01:12:56,241 --> 01:12:59,549 I've been focusing on gymnastics a lot. 1625 01:12:59,549 --> 01:13:04,118 I wake up and do pushups and sit-ups. 1626 01:13:04,118 --> 01:13:06,599 Gymnastics is really expensive. 1627 01:13:06,599 --> 01:13:11,343 So to help pay for it, I've been making things 1628 01:13:11,343 --> 01:13:15,478 and then selling them. 1629 01:13:15,478 --> 01:13:18,132 Lily has contacted a professional seamstress, 1630 01:13:18,132 --> 01:13:20,483 who has agreed to help her with a sewing project. 1631 01:13:20,483 --> 01:13:21,832 See how it stretches? 1632 01:13:21,832 --> 01:13:25,096 It does not stretch when it goes like this. 1633 01:13:25,096 --> 01:13:29,448 Today I'm getting stuff to make some jewelry pouches. 1634 01:13:29,448 --> 01:13:31,668 They're basically little pouches that you can cinch 1635 01:13:31,668 --> 01:13:33,626 up with pockets and pouches on the inside. 1636 01:13:33,626 --> 01:13:36,063 Do you think this will be too stretchy? 1637 01:13:36,063 --> 01:13:37,500 No, it's fine. 1638 01:13:37,500 --> 01:13:40,285 Yeah. Yeah. 1639 01:13:40,285 --> 01:13:42,287 In addition to learning about fabrics, 1640 01:13:42,287 --> 01:13:45,159 she gets a very practical math lesson. 1641 01:13:45,159 --> 01:13:49,033 You can do 3.14 times 6, gives you the circumference. 1642 01:13:49,033 --> 01:13:54,038 You need at least that, and then pull it. 1643 01:13:54,038 --> 01:13:56,301 I got all the stuff I needed for my jewelry pouch. 1644 01:13:56,301 --> 01:13:59,217 And I got the cord and stuff. 1645 01:13:59,217 --> 01:14:01,262 Now I'm just kind of looking around and trying 1646 01:14:01,262 --> 01:14:02,307 to find some inspiration. 1647 01:14:02,307 --> 01:14:04,875 And like, I don't know. 1648 01:14:04,875 --> 01:14:07,094 I'm just getting a lot of ideas for stuff, so. 1649 01:14:07,094 --> 01:14:08,705 You know what you should do? 1650 01:14:08,705 --> 01:14:11,708 It's just like, you should become friends with somebody 1651 01:14:11,708 --> 01:14:13,797 that works as a costumer. 1652 01:14:13,797 --> 01:14:15,407 Or in dancing, or something like that. 1653 01:14:15,407 --> 01:14:18,192 And you attach yourself to them and be an apprentice. 1654 01:14:18,192 --> 01:14:19,411 And that's how you get in. 1655 01:14:19,411 --> 01:14:20,281 That's really smart. 1656 01:14:20,281 --> 01:14:22,153 Yeah. 1657 01:14:22,153 --> 01:14:25,504 That's kind of what I did. 1658 01:14:25,504 --> 01:14:26,853 That was pretty inspiring 1659 01:14:26,853 --> 01:14:29,290 to see just all sorts of different fabric. 1660 01:14:29,290 --> 01:14:32,642 And seeing how much like, she knows and everything. 1661 01:14:32,642 --> 01:14:34,295 It's very inspiring. 1662 01:14:34,295 --> 01:14:37,473 And it makes me realize how much work I'll have to do. 1663 01:14:37,473 --> 01:14:50,050 And like, how much I have to still learn. 1664 01:14:50,050 --> 01:14:53,184 The sea lions can bring their back flippers forward. 1665 01:14:53,184 --> 01:14:55,534 And that allows them to be able to walk 1666 01:14:55,534 --> 01:14:57,928 on all four flippers, when they're on land. 1667 01:14:57,928 --> 01:15:00,757 I really, really love marine biology. 1668 01:15:00,757 --> 01:15:04,587 Especially aquatic mammals. 1669 01:15:04,587 --> 01:15:06,763 I like that I have all this time to be able 1670 01:15:06,763 --> 01:15:08,025 to follow my passions. 1671 01:15:08,025 --> 01:15:12,986 But I am a very serious procrastinator. 1672 01:15:12,986 --> 01:15:16,468 I just don't really know how to get where I want to go yet. 1673 01:15:16,468 --> 01:15:22,126 I'm trying to figure it out, but it's hard. 1674 01:15:22,126 --> 01:15:27,261 I am really, seriously thinking about going to high school. 1675 01:15:27,261 --> 01:15:35,182 High school is kind of an easy thing to fall back on. 1676 01:15:35,182 --> 01:15:37,445 All my friends from middle school are going 1677 01:15:37,445 --> 01:15:39,143 to the high school in the fall. 1678 01:15:39,143 --> 01:15:56,029 And I kind of want to be there with them. 1679 01:15:56,029 --> 01:15:58,423 I want to ask you a couple of questions about -- 1680 01:15:58,423 --> 01:16:01,644 make sure you understand your reasons for going. 1681 01:16:01,644 --> 01:16:03,167 Oh, I know. 1682 01:16:03,167 --> 01:16:04,951 Yeah. I don't know if I'm going to stick with it. 1683 01:16:04,951 --> 01:16:06,518 But I at least want to give it a chance. 1684 01:16:06,518 --> 01:16:09,608 Well, I wonder if you can audit it, 1685 01:16:09,608 --> 01:16:11,654 like they do with college classes. 1686 01:16:11,654 --> 01:16:15,266 Because if you just want to be there with your friends, 1687 01:16:15,266 --> 01:16:16,310 that's understandable. 1688 01:16:16,310 --> 01:16:18,008 That's not the only reason. 1689 01:16:18,008 --> 01:16:21,359 So you want to go there and get into the textbook and -- 1690 01:16:21,359 --> 01:16:24,580 I want to try it! 1691 01:16:24,580 --> 01:16:26,059 Okay, I respect that. 1692 01:16:26,059 --> 01:16:27,670 I don't necessarily want 1693 01:16:27,670 --> 01:16:29,410 to take the easy path because it's easy. 1694 01:16:29,410 --> 01:16:31,978 But I just don't know what else to do at this point. 1695 01:16:31,978 --> 01:16:36,069 Uh, however, if you do end up going back to school. 1696 01:16:36,069 --> 01:16:39,377 There will be -- I'm not going 1697 01:16:39,377 --> 01:16:40,944 to be playing the role of the nag. 1698 01:16:40,944 --> 01:16:42,119 And get your homework done. 1699 01:16:42,119 --> 01:16:43,294 And you can't go here until you -- 1700 01:16:43,294 --> 01:16:44,121 Okay. 1701 01:16:44,121 --> 01:16:45,122 You're owning it. 1702 01:16:45,122 --> 01:16:46,079 I'm okay with that. 1703 01:16:46,079 --> 01:16:47,428 You're going to own it. 1704 01:16:47,428 --> 01:16:49,300 I am absolutely, 100% okay with that. 1705 01:16:49,300 --> 01:16:50,693 And you're setting your own alarm clock, 1706 01:16:50,693 --> 01:16:53,043 and you're getting yourself up. 1707 01:16:53,043 --> 01:16:54,218 Okay. 1708 01:16:54,218 --> 01:16:55,262 You're getting yourself there. 1709 01:16:55,262 --> 01:16:56,742 If she does end up going back, 1710 01:16:56,742 --> 01:16:58,918 it's going to be a fascinating social experiment. 1711 01:16:58,918 --> 01:17:02,139 To see what it will be like for someone who's had tons 1712 01:17:02,139 --> 01:17:03,706 of freedom. 1713 01:17:03,706 --> 01:17:05,621 To going back into that kind of confined environment, 1714 01:17:05,621 --> 01:17:08,101 where she has very little freedom. 1715 01:17:08,101 --> 01:17:10,016 Should I tell you some high school stories? 1716 01:17:10,016 --> 01:17:11,148 No. 1717 01:17:11,148 --> 01:17:12,584 How come? 1718 01:17:12,584 --> 01:17:14,064 Because. 1719 01:17:14,064 --> 01:17:15,718 I honestly think there's a little bit of a -- 1720 01:17:15,718 --> 01:17:19,156 some appeal to her to go back into a structured setting. 1721 01:17:19,156 --> 01:17:22,725 And have someone else make all those decisions for her. 1722 01:17:22,725 --> 01:17:24,770 And take all that off of herself. 1723 01:17:24,770 --> 01:17:27,077 And just have to do what they tell her to do. 1724 01:17:27,077 --> 01:17:29,079 I'm excited to see how it goes. 1725 01:17:29,079 --> 01:17:30,689 But I'm also really nervous about it. 1726 01:17:30,689 --> 01:17:37,565 It's going to be, well, different. 1727 01:17:37,565 --> 01:17:38,915 Both my children wanted 1728 01:17:38,915 --> 01:17:41,308 to see what real high school was like too. 1729 01:17:41,308 --> 01:17:45,399 And I remember my son came home after the third day or so. 1730 01:17:45,399 --> 01:17:48,359 And he said, I don't know how I ever learned anything 1731 01:17:48,359 --> 01:17:49,969 without grades. 1732 01:17:49,969 --> 01:17:51,667 Because we'd never had grades before, you know. 1733 01:17:51,667 --> 01:17:57,847 And he was really into the whole school and the grading. 1734 01:17:57,847 --> 01:17:59,936 And the papers and the due dates. 1735 01:17:59,936 --> 01:18:01,372 And all of this. 1736 01:18:01,372 --> 01:18:03,417 They found it very interesting and exciting. 1737 01:18:03,417 --> 01:18:07,900 And at the end of the semester, I said, well, do you want to go 1738 01:18:07,900 --> 01:18:09,032 to the high school full-time? 1739 01:18:09,032 --> 01:18:11,164 And he said, no. 1740 01:18:11,164 --> 01:18:12,209 I said Why not? 1741 01:18:12,209 --> 01:18:15,038 And he said, because the kids 1742 01:18:15,038 --> 01:18:20,783 at the high school have a really limited frame 1743 01:18:20,783 --> 01:18:23,046 of what they're thinking about, Mom. 1744 01:18:23,046 --> 01:18:25,918 They're talking about what's happening today. 1745 01:18:25,918 --> 01:18:27,311 What happened yesterday. 1746 01:18:27,311 --> 01:18:29,574 And what's going to happen tomorrow. 1747 01:18:29,574 --> 01:18:34,013 But there's not much beyond that. 1748 01:18:34,013 --> 01:18:35,711 Despite foregoing high school, 1749 01:18:35,711 --> 01:18:37,538 both Jasmin's children got into one 1750 01:18:37,538 --> 01:18:40,367 of the most competitive universities in the country. 1751 01:18:40,367 --> 01:18:42,239 UC Berkeley. 1752 01:18:42,239 --> 01:18:44,720 I think our parents did instill in us this idea 1753 01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:46,460 that college was something that was good. 1754 01:18:46,460 --> 01:18:47,810 That we wanted to achieve. 1755 01:18:47,810 --> 01:18:50,638 That, I think it really was an end goal. 1756 01:18:50,638 --> 01:18:52,989 But there wasn't the same pressure. 1757 01:18:52,989 --> 01:18:56,296 It was, you want to do this for your own sake. 1758 01:18:56,296 --> 01:18:58,124 Not because we're telling you to do it. 1759 01:18:58,124 --> 01:19:00,083 I just really love learning. 1760 01:19:00,083 --> 01:19:01,780 And there hasn't been a pressure of oh, well, 1761 01:19:01,780 --> 01:19:05,262 you have to do this, to become this. 1762 01:19:05,262 --> 01:19:07,960 And so, I wanted to continue learning. 1763 01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:10,746 If there's one thing that I'm grateful 1764 01:19:10,746 --> 01:19:12,922 for in my entire homeschooling experience. 1765 01:19:12,922 --> 01:19:17,361 If there's one thing that it's given me, it's curiosity. 1766 01:19:17,361 --> 01:19:21,104 Colleges are falling all over themselves to get homeschoolers 1767 01:19:21,104 --> 01:19:22,758 and kids from Democratic schools. 1768 01:19:22,758 --> 01:19:26,109 Why? Because it's so rare for them to get kids 1769 01:19:26,109 --> 01:19:29,808 that are still interested in learning. 1770 01:19:29,808 --> 01:19:31,549 While Ana considers the pros and cons 1771 01:19:31,549 --> 01:19:33,594 of going back to school. 1772 01:19:33,594 --> 01:19:37,120 Rachel tries to let her daughter own the decision. 1773 01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:39,818 There's definitely part of me that is going to feel 1774 01:19:39,818 --> 01:19:41,472 like I've failed as a homeschooling mother. 1775 01:19:41,472 --> 01:19:43,996 If Ana ends up going back to high school. 1776 01:19:43,996 --> 01:19:46,564 You know, I'm going to worry and wonder about what I did wrong. 1777 01:19:46,564 --> 01:19:48,609 Or what I could have done differently. 1778 01:19:48,609 --> 01:19:52,439 So I've decided just to kind of step back and allow her 1779 01:19:52,439 --> 01:19:54,267 to make this decision. 1780 01:19:54,267 --> 01:19:57,967 And I'm going to have to live with the consequences. 1781 01:19:57,967 --> 01:19:59,707 She's going to have to live with the consequences. 1782 01:19:59,707 --> 01:20:03,363 But it will probably be a good learning experience for her. 1783 01:20:03,363 --> 01:20:05,235 The hard part about being a self-directed learner, 1784 01:20:05,235 --> 01:20:07,237 or the parent of a self-directed learner. 1785 01:20:07,237 --> 01:20:10,501 Is separating expectations from needs. 1786 01:20:10,501 --> 01:20:12,198 If you are a teenager, you are expected 1787 01:20:12,198 --> 01:20:16,202 in so many different ways to not only to just go to school. 1788 01:20:16,202 --> 01:20:18,944 But to learn certain things at a certain time. 1789 01:20:18,944 --> 01:20:21,555 And as a parent, you're supposed to be kind of pushing 1790 01:20:21,555 --> 01:20:24,123 that on your teenager. 1791 01:20:24,123 --> 01:20:26,691 That's a way that you can be kind of living 1792 01:20:26,691 --> 01:20:28,432 out somebody else's dreams. 1793 01:20:28,432 --> 01:20:30,913 And as a self-directed learner, you have to figure out, 1794 01:20:30,913 --> 01:20:32,305 gee, what are my dreams? 1795 01:20:32,305 --> 01:20:34,742 What are my priorities, my goals, my needs? 1796 01:20:34,742 --> 01:20:39,008 Is it just what everyone else is doing? 1797 01:20:39,008 --> 01:20:41,401 After several weeks of weighing her options, 1798 01:20:41,401 --> 01:20:45,231 Ana has made her mind up about high school. 1799 01:20:45,231 --> 01:20:47,930 A lot of the things that I'm really interested in right now. 1800 01:20:47,930 --> 01:20:50,628 I realize that I don't need school for them. 1801 01:20:50,628 --> 01:20:54,501 It's taken me a year and a half to get to where I am. 1802 01:20:54,501 --> 01:20:56,373 To figure out what I'm really passionate about. 1803 01:20:56,373 --> 01:20:58,288 And what I like to be doing. 1804 01:20:58,288 --> 01:21:00,943 And I feel like if I went back now, 1805 01:21:00,943 --> 01:21:04,207 it would crush all this momentum that I've gathered. 1806 01:21:04,207 --> 01:21:08,211 Hello. Hi, my name is Ana. 1807 01:21:08,211 --> 01:21:24,270 And I was curious about volunteering. 1808 01:21:24,270 --> 01:21:26,142 Our entire life, we've been guided 1809 01:21:26,142 --> 01:21:27,752 by teachers, or the principal. 1810 01:21:27,752 --> 01:21:29,449 Or by like, school rules. 1811 01:21:29,449 --> 01:21:30,798 Or by our mom. 1812 01:21:30,798 --> 01:21:32,539 We've been just, like, guided. 1813 01:21:32,539 --> 01:21:33,758 Like, this is what you do now. 1814 01:21:33,758 --> 01:21:35,978 This is what you do now. 1815 01:21:35,978 --> 01:21:38,806 And so, I think me and Lily were just kind of expecting the, 1816 01:21:38,806 --> 01:21:40,243 this is what you do now. 1817 01:21:40,243 --> 01:21:41,766 And it never came. 1818 01:21:41,766 --> 01:21:43,942 So then recently, we took it into our own hands. 1819 01:21:43,942 --> 01:21:45,117 And it's been great. 1820 01:21:45,117 --> 01:21:46,858 Like, I'm in charge of what I do. 1821 01:21:46,858 --> 01:21:53,169 And it's fantastic. 1822 01:21:53,169 --> 01:21:55,345 I find sea stars very fascinating. 1823 01:21:55,345 --> 01:21:57,216 So I like to teach people a lot about them. 1824 01:21:57,216 --> 01:21:58,304 A lot of it I already knew. 1825 01:21:58,304 --> 01:22:00,045 A lot of it was taught to me. 1826 01:22:00,045 --> 01:22:01,655 And a lot of it, I just researched on my own. 1827 01:22:01,655 --> 01:22:03,831 This is a sea star. 1828 01:22:03,831 --> 01:22:08,227 And these bumps that it has on its skin are how it breathes. 1829 01:22:08,227 --> 01:22:11,404 And in here in the center, that's where its stomach is. 1830 01:22:11,404 --> 01:22:15,060 I would really love to become an expert 1831 01:22:15,060 --> 01:22:16,801 on whales or deep-water fish. 1832 01:22:16,801 --> 01:22:19,325 I would love to be right there in a boat or right like, 1833 01:22:19,325 --> 01:22:23,112 in a submarine, exploring. 1834 01:22:23,112 --> 01:22:26,071 I think that being here has given me a very like -- 1835 01:22:26,071 --> 01:22:28,030 it's given me a really good starting point 1836 01:22:28,030 --> 01:22:30,554 for my marine biology research. 1837 01:22:30,554 --> 01:22:32,034 And if the time comes that I do want 1838 01:22:32,034 --> 01:22:33,426 to volunteer at a larger aquarium. 1839 01:22:33,426 --> 01:22:36,516 Then I feel like I really am ready. 1840 01:22:36,516 --> 01:22:39,606 I have learned like, the basic skills that I would need. 1841 01:22:39,606 --> 01:22:42,000 And, of course, bigger aquariums are going to have bigger fish. 1842 01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:43,697 And more things to know. 1843 01:22:43,697 --> 01:22:58,060 But I definitely think that I would be more prepared now. 1844 01:22:58,060 --> 01:23:01,150 Times are changing, schools are not. 1845 01:23:01,150 --> 01:23:04,109 And parents want to know, well, what can I give my child? 1846 01:23:04,109 --> 01:23:07,069 If the salvation of school is really just an empty promise, 1847 01:23:07,069 --> 01:23:08,592 you know, what is it? 1848 01:23:08,592 --> 01:23:14,119 And then they realize, me, my family, my community. 1849 01:23:14,119 --> 01:23:18,428 If you're thinking in terms of what's best for your child. 1850 01:23:18,428 --> 01:23:22,954 You definitely have to at least consider homeschooling. 1851 01:23:22,954 --> 01:23:27,350 Because the benefits are just tremendous. 1852 01:23:27,350 --> 01:23:29,439 What I'd like to see is a world not 1853 01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:31,136 where schools are gone. 1854 01:23:31,136 --> 01:23:32,703 I'd like to see a world where there are 1855 01:23:32,703 --> 01:23:34,574 so many different types of schools. 1856 01:23:34,574 --> 01:23:37,316 And a lot of different schools, especially small schools. 1857 01:23:37,316 --> 01:23:39,057 That are trying out all these different little, 1858 01:23:39,057 --> 01:23:40,841 innovative practices. 1859 01:23:40,841 --> 01:23:42,452 And they're tinkering. 1860 01:23:42,452 --> 01:23:46,630 And there's constant reform and innovation happening. 1861 01:23:46,630 --> 01:23:50,112 That pretty much everyone's needs get met. 1862 01:23:50,112 --> 01:23:51,765 And in that world, there would be a lot 1863 01:23:51,765 --> 01:23:53,071 of homeschooling and unschooling. 1864 01:23:53,071 --> 01:23:55,421 And there would be a lot of school too. 1865 01:23:55,421 --> 01:23:56,814 And that's fine. 1866 01:23:56,814 --> 01:24:07,129 Because homeschooling is not for everyone. 1867 01:24:07,129 --> 01:24:09,435 When I started, I thought there was a destination 1868 01:24:09,435 --> 01:24:10,697 that we had in mind. 1869 01:24:10,697 --> 01:24:13,178 But I've kind of learned that education 1870 01:24:13,178 --> 01:24:14,962 and learning isn't a destination. 1871 01:24:14,962 --> 01:24:16,442 It's a journey that you're always on. 1872 01:24:16,442 --> 01:24:19,445 I'm confident about where the girls are going. 1873 01:24:19,445 --> 01:24:21,839 And so, it's like, how can they be happy now? 1874 01:24:21,839 --> 01:24:23,928 Like, what do they want to do with their life? 1875 01:24:23,928 --> 01:24:25,886 What do they want to accomplish? 1876 01:24:25,886 --> 01:24:30,630 My kids are still learning, they're still evolving. 1877 01:24:30,630 --> 01:24:32,676 I'm still learning, I'm still evolving. 1878 01:24:32,676 --> 01:24:34,373 We all are. 1879 01:24:34,373 --> 01:24:37,159 And I think that's a really beautiful way to approach life. 1880 01:24:37,159 --> 01:24:39,726 Now, this is harder to see, because the Fibonacci 1881 01:24:39,726 --> 01:24:41,511 in this is scaled really close. 1882 01:24:41,511 --> 01:24:43,469 So you have to look close. 1883 01:24:43,469 --> 01:24:45,297 We've tripped and stumbled, 1884 01:24:45,297 --> 01:24:48,039 and tried a whole bunch of different things. 1885 01:24:48,039 --> 01:24:50,911 But I've learned that's kind of a universal thing. 1886 01:24:50,911 --> 01:24:52,174 Everyone has to find their own way 1887 01:24:52,174 --> 01:24:58,136 and find what works for them. 1888 01:24:58,136 --> 01:25:01,183 Each child is a custom person. 1889 01:25:01,183 --> 01:25:03,576 You know, they have -- they're an individual. 1890 01:25:03,576 --> 01:25:05,187 Completely unique. 1891 01:25:05,187 --> 01:25:07,014 So you've got to tailor it to your child. 1892 01:25:07,014 --> 01:25:08,625 And not just all your children, 1893 01:25:08,625 --> 01:25:10,366 each one individually, specifically. 1894 01:25:10,366 --> 01:25:13,064 And then you just draw -- 1895 01:25:13,064 --> 01:25:14,631 Our life as homeschoolers isn't perfect. 1896 01:25:14,631 --> 01:25:17,808 Our life in the public school system wasn't perfect. 1897 01:25:17,808 --> 01:25:19,462 There are tradeoffs. 1898 01:25:19,462 --> 01:25:22,073 And no matter what kind of lifestyle you choose, 1899 01:25:22,073 --> 01:25:23,727 you're going to miss out on something. 1900 01:25:23,727 --> 01:25:28,079 But for us, we find that we're gaining things that are, 1901 01:25:28,079 --> 01:25:41,136 that make the tradeoffs really worth it. 1902 01:25:41,136 --> 01:25:42,659 We have to lead through example. 1903 01:25:42,659 --> 01:25:45,183 What is there 3 million plus homeschoolers right now? 1904 01:25:45,183 --> 01:25:46,924 As that number, you know, keeps creeping up. 1905 01:25:46,924 --> 01:25:48,621 More and more people are going to know a homeschooler 1906 01:25:48,621 --> 01:25:50,319 or an unschooler in their community. 1907 01:25:50,319 --> 01:25:53,800 And no longer will they be some, you know, mysterious, 1908 01:25:53,800 --> 01:25:55,541 stereotype-riddled freak show. 1909 01:25:55,541 --> 01:25:58,240 They will be a person who I know who chooses homeschooling. 1910 01:25:58,240 --> 01:26:00,285 And they're just fine. 1911 01:26:00,285 --> 01:26:05,508 Homeschooling is probably the single strongest force 1912 01:26:05,508 --> 01:26:12,079 at changing the education paradigm for everyone. 1913 01:26:12,079 --> 01:26:13,603 It's ripe for change. 1914 01:26:13,603 --> 01:26:15,474 And whether homeschooling, unschooling, 1915 01:26:15,474 --> 01:26:19,086 or something else is going to be that big change. 1916 01:26:19,086 --> 01:26:20,131 I'm not sure. 1917 01:26:20,131 --> 01:26:23,308 I think that's not as important 1918 01:26:23,308 --> 01:26:27,399 as keeping homeschooling free and legal. 1919 01:26:27,399 --> 01:26:30,446 And available to any person, any family, 1920 01:26:30,446 --> 01:26:32,491 who wants to step outside of the traditional system. 1921 01:26:32,491 --> 01:26:36,278 I think as long as we have that in place, 1922 01:26:36,278 --> 01:26:38,497 then the revolution is here. 1923 01:26:38,497 --> 01:26:42,497 [ Music ] 142845

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