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THE JOURNEY OF LOVE

Welcome, Yunus. Thanks, Sheik.

You are welcome too, Shahin Effendi. Thank you, Sheik.

You are welcome.

The same to you.

Shahin Effendi needs a place to stay, Sheik.

Do we have a free spot, a mattress, my Kasim?

Of course we do, Sheik.

Show it to him then. Is he a stranger?

He can be considered a cousin. Excuse me, sire.

Your sire knows the situation, Yunus?

No, he does not, my Sheik.

Good.

Have a rest, Shahin Effendi.

People are getting curious.

We can go out in public then.

If one is not in a good outfit, one will not be listened to.

Why not?

It is not about the outfit, it is about the person.

Of course it is but...

...we also know about the dervish, Yunus Effendi.

Ah, I didn't know about the dervish, can you tell me?

There are lots of conditions but the first one is cardigan and crown.

You say so? Do not you believe me?

A dervish wears a cardigan and crown, doesn't he?

For example, when you go to bazaar in a new town...

...how will they know you are a dervish? They know from your cardigan of course.

Who told you this? Adem Effendi told me.

You may feel curious as to why I make you famous.

Go ahead, dervish, I'm listening. What is your question?

Ismail, Adem Effendi heard some things...

...and he told me.

You know, our Sheik is careful about your education.

He wants to both read a book and work.

Yunus Effendi, Adem knows what we taught him, that's it!

Our Sheik wanted it this way, Adem Effendi.

If you have something to say, say it.

If you are going to fight, fight with me.

Alright then.

Let us say it then.

Adem Effendi says...

...dervishes come with cardigan and crown.

This is what we told him. Is it a lie?

Of course it is not.

But you said something is missing.

Cardigan and crown do not make you a dervish, it is the outfit of a dervish.

Yunus Effendi, you go your way we will go ours.

Tell me what Sheik Effendi is up to in the dervish's lodge?

Nothing.

So, what are the source of all these?

Who is provoking the people?

I have not seen anything, they are all honest Joes.

What are you talking about?

Whatever Kasim Effendi told me...

...I just told to Ismail, my Sheik.

Yunus Effendi heard of it, they had an argument.

He didn't approve of what I said to Ismail.

We know a little, Adem.

Not all.

Come after me.

More power to you!

Be plenteous.

My dears, we have a guest for dinner tomorrow.

With pleasure, my Sheik.

Ali Taygu, the brothers will also come, Judge Ilyas Effendi.

Whatever the god’s will is.

Flowing with milk and honey, if God wills it.

Your politeness, my Sheik. With your service, if God wills it.

When we decide what to put on the table...

...I will come to you, my Sheik.

Alright then, okay.

Have a good evening, Shahin Effendi.

You too, Yunus Effendi.

You let our monsieur know that we have a guest.

Even if he gets crazy, it is useless.

You do not need to be nervous, Yunus Effendi.

Be sure that while I am here...

...he must not pose a threat to the dervish's lodge.

Let us live and see, God knows.

Good night.

There is no news, as I told you, father.

There is nothing missing.

Just because you cannot see their sins, it does not mean they are sinless.

Sheik, first, they are harmless and inoffensive people.

We didn't bring you to the dervish's lodge so that you could tell me this!

We did it so that you could watch them!

The one who is up to something would invite...

...Seljuk Judge to dinner?

Master judge, we are administrators.

Even you conduct yourself according to law, under the name of sharia law.

You do not need to hide it from us.

We have not seen it for ourselves.

We did not notice anything on Yunus Effendi but...

...tongues are wagging about it.

They say in the dervish's lodge...

...they drink wine.

There is an alcoholic ambience.

The so-called Tapduk Emre Effendi let them.

So, in the name of God then.

In the name of God.

Do we not have sherbet, Gungor?

There is an alcoholic ambience.

Tapduk Emre Hazrat let them.

I hope it grows fertile.

In the name of God.

In the name of God.

In the name of God.

Good evening.

What a relief!

There is nothing like the water from our river Yellow.

It is like Adam's wine, not water.

I hope he can do it, Shahin.

I delivered the wine-jugs myself, monsieur.

If there was something wrong...

...he would let us know.

We told him to do his job, come in the morning unobtrusively.

I hope in the morning we will hear good news from him.

If God wills it, my sire.

In order not to say I wish, we need to navigate our hand, our tongue...

...towards the truth.

Many people think...

...you need to stop living as you want and become ascetic.

No, this is wrong.

Do things that you will not forget.

Do not worry about the rest.

When the King of Britain tries to unite the force of the Crusaders...

...we will hear of it.

Let them unite, Sheik.

Caravans are coming from Aleppo...

...Sultan Baybars provided an army of a hundred thousand men in Akka.

Our Sultan Kilicharslan is regulating the army.

The Crusader army will move from Tunisia.

The Crusader atheists are also waiting and intend to...

...bring the fighters of Sultan Baybars...

...and the soldiers of Seljuk to war.

A heretic wants this, Sheik?

They are impertinent, even in the bazaar...

...why it is that necessary while the country faces such financial difficulty?

What have Aleppo or Akka to do with us...

...what do we do in Jerusalem, as they say.

So, the purpose is to keep their businesses going.

Are Crusaders from all nations, from the other side of the world...

...not asking why the Seljuk people are here?

If you do not go to Aleppo and Akka...

...Mongolians will come to Nallihan and sack your bazaar.

Whatever.

We cannot babble with Master judge.

This is not place of politics.

Let us mind our business, aghas.

You go about your vocation, we'll take care of the law.

The rest is the business of high state officials.

But being hopeless is a sin.

They have tried eight times, they got defeated eight times.

So, excuse us. You have permission.

Gungor Effendi, do not we have anything to offer our guests?

Besides, Kasim Effendi, we can also go.

How can you offer this, Sage? Bring fresh fruits.

Do not bother.

Let's get on the road, but slowly.

So.

The guest has the last word, not the owner.

Well, let us just walk together. Come, Master judge.

If God wills it.

Have a good night together. Have a good night.

Come to the office too, Yunus Effendi.

If God wills it, Master judge, if God wills it.

Go ahead, Master judge, go ahead.

We do not drink wine, Shahin Effendi.

Did Yunus drink it?

If you'll excuse me...

...I want to... here...

...stay in your Lodge.

Is the Lodge ours, Shahin Agha?

If we live, we do not live as long as we live.

Let us say that it is just for a breath...

...you say that we will serve in another 20 years.

By the grace of God.

How do we give permission for that which is not ours, Shahin Agha?

The places of arrival and of departure are ready.

Who wants to stay can stay, who wants to leave can go.

Of course, we do not, but you are the son of a monsieur, Shahin Agha.

Your father does not know about this.

Maybe he has different ideas about you.

Let it be,...

...my father can think what he wants.

Let me do what I want, Sheik.

Good, then.

We will not tell an adult...

...what or how he should do things.

You do not need to stay away from our father when I am here.

When you are here,...

...but when you are not here...

...it is the same thing we stay away from, Shahin Agha.

Do not be overly concerned about it.

Permission, Sheik. Come, Yunus, come.

We had a chat with Sahin Agha.

If you will excuse me.

Yunus Effendi is in the presence of the Sheik.

We thought he was available but no.

Well then.

Make your own decisions, Yunus.

You are the one who carries out that duty,...

...it should be your decision to leave or not.

First, we'll go to the moneychanger and then to the cloth trader.

My dear mother. Zahide.

We were shopping. What about you, my mother?

We went to the adopted maid with your Sister Fatma.

Sister Gulsum has been sick for a long time now.

I will wait for you.

I have something to talk to you about.

What is the matter, Zahide?

The truth of the matter has emerged.

I could not tell you because I wanted to think a little bit.

My sister...

...it is obvious who she is in love with.

Did she tell that?

She did not say a name but has described the person.

He is Mullah Kasim Effendi.

Please do not trouble yourself.

Mother, I'm hitting the road!

If you ask me, this is Yunus Effendi.

I hope she will not regret it.

Come to us and we'll talk.

Sister?

Aygül, go to the moneychanger and see if the bracelets are ready.

I need to go my Sister Sultan.

Finish up your work and wait in the shop.

We'll take you when we are going back.

Felli Hasan, let's go!

Go ahead, Yunus Effendi.

Master judge said that he will be back.

Our job is unique, and our duty...

...is to ensure the balance of the scales of justice, aghas.

How do you keep the scales balanced?

Whoever is corrupt,...

...makes an attempt to threaten...

...a person or their belongings should know that there is justice.

Let the people know that even if Judge Yunus commits an offense,...

...the dictates of sharia will be carried out.

Let even the children playing a game in Nallihan street know that...

...justice does not come from the Judge but from the sharia.

Welcome, Yunus.

Thank you, Ilyas Effendi. Have a seat, have a seat.

Ilyas Effendi, we want you to know, while you're coming in the door...

...you are not entering the place of Master judge,...

...but a place of a friend from your childhood...

...from your school years...

...we are going to the friendship lodge of Ilyas Effendi.

When we were at dinner last night...

...you smelled the sherbet offered to you twice.

What are you saying, Yunus?

We are wondering if your answer is yes or no.

And also, how did you find out about this matter?

Who told you about this wine business?

Yunus...

...can you hear yourself?

Is what you said logical?

What you say is not clear.

Even if we cannot express ourselves...

...we have known each other so long that we do not need words...

...to understand each other.

I do not understand what you want to know, Yunus.

Where is Sahin, Yellow Agha?

He is not here yet, sire.

Did not you tell him to do his job and come in the morning?

Or is he unable to fill the vat with the wine?

I say we wait, sire, and hear the news first-hand.

Do we have time to wait, Yellow Agha?

Go to the lodge quickly. Find Shahin.

And bring information on what’s going on.

With great pleasure, sire.

Do you want me to confess to something that didn't happen?

Do you smell the sherbet every time you drink to see if it is wine or not?

And in a Lodge?

Sire said that he is my counsellor but...

...he did not tell me that your job is to question me.

Okay, Ilyas Effendi.

We got our answer.

Now we know who got you involved in this slander.

Do you doubt that I defamed...

...the Lodge of the monsieur to whom you are counsellor now?

We do not doubt it.

We know.

It is not in accordance with our sweet will, Yunus...

...we do what we need to do in accordance with this authority.

Why did Seljuk train, teach in the great madrasah...

...then do the favour, make it possible, appoint the Judge?...

...It is same if he was my own brother...

...or such-and-such Lodge.

When justice pulls upon the rope...

...it is the same length for all of us.

You know this better than me but still you make me say it, Yunus.

Did justice say to find a defect in the Judge?

Sheik says that...

...justice seeks out innocence...

...to the last. But not crime and criminals.

If you do not trust us, trust your knowledge.

With permission, my uncle's son?

Come, Kasim.

You have a guest.

Yellow Agha! Permission, sire.

Your father said hello, sire.

No, no!

Well then let's go, you shall enter into the presence.

I will not go, Yellow Agha.

What do you mean that you will not go, Effendi?

From now on, I will not be seen in the Chandaroglu mansion, Yellow Agha.

Go and tell this to my father.

I will stay here now, in the Tapduk Emre Lodge.

Sire, forgive me.

How can I say such a thing?

How can I say that Shahin Agha will stay in the Tapduk Emre Lodge?

Like so, just as you told me.

Permission, sire?

Come in.

Effendi Yunus came, sire.

Send him in.

Welcome, Yunus Effendi.

Thank you but...

...this is not a pleasant matter, sire.

What is it that is so unpleasant, Yunus Effendi?

Forgive me, but most of the words are only for those of lower intelligence, sire.

It is a famous word.

Everyone knows, everyone sees what is going on.

With the exception of your presence, those who adore intelligence...

...are really the stupid ones, my monsieur.

The Sheik says that...

...the devil keeps most of the intelligence.

Even then, it is unknown which trap he set?

What do you mean, Yunus Effendi?

Be frank with me!

The truth cannot be hidden.

The truth is as the sun.

It rises even if we do not want it to, sets even if we do not accept it.

I do not know what you mean, Yunus Effendi.

We know, sire.

We know what you did, but not what you said.

We reject this attitude.

Do not think that a follower of our Sheik...

...is afraid of being abandoned.

He is stonewalling everyone, Sheik.

Slander belongs to the one who says it!

Did you hear what you said, Yunus Effendi?

How can you talk to me like this?

You are our counsellor, not our elder!

From now on, I am not your counsellor!

Go and find another counsellor who will decree fatwa for your slights!

Do not think that you will not pay for this, Yunus Effendi!

Do not think that you will get away with this!

Things in the mansion are complicated.

There are great troubles that may arise at any moment.

What could the reason be?

Reason? The Ahis says tax, the villagers say farmland and other things.

We cannot now but if you ask me,...

...the counsellor should be more effective.

Yunus Effendi obviously cannot deal with the consultancy.

If he thinks like this, why does the Monsieur keep him at the mansion?

You think so too, don't you? Why are you angry?

You would not have thought so before, but...

You pray to the one who cleared your name.

What happened now? What's happened to you?

You jump on me like I blamed you.

But you're defaming me.

Do you defend every person who has been defamed so egregiously?

Or... Apart from this do not spread rumours!

One also thinks I am your enemy, you are giving me a hard time.

I do not care, do what you want to do.

What we did yesterday defines today.

Permission, sire.

Come in!

Shahin Effendi...

...could not perform the duty, sire.

Well, why does not he come and say it to my face, Yellow Agha?

I asked him to, to go to the mansion.

But he would not accept, son of our son!

Yellow Agha!

Tell us the word exactly!

What do you mean, our son isn't coming back?

From now on...

...I will not return to the Felt-maker mansion!

He says that from now on, he will stay in the Tapduk Emre Lodge.

He says to go and tell this to my father, sire.

Sire!

Will our own son defect to the side of our...

...enemy in such a cloud of smoke, Yellow Agha?

Give us the order and I will break ranks,...

... and bring the son of our sire back, sire.

Well, let's hope for the best, Yunus.

If that's what happened, let's hope for the best.

What does Mirror Pir say?

Like what is done is done, the dead are dead.

Assume that you spend a night at an inn on the road.

In the morning you will go on your way.

Well, let us see what kind of bandits, cafés and loyalties are in store.

Think of your own adventure, Yunus.

You were a Judge in this province, then you shared a table with the...

...ones you put to death.

You committed foolishness, you became advisor in Sultan Palace.

Well, does the road end here?

It does not end until he says it does.

Don't I always say that this road is long and sharper than the sword?

Then the task will be over and the real task begins.

Neither the road nor the test end, Yunus.

Come, Yunus, come!

Come.

Well, even just to find another job...

...it is not good to do nothing for a dervish.

You became a dervish with experience,...

...prepare things for our homes, Yunus.

My pleasure, Sheik.

The wood is also quite gnarled.

Swing the axe and fix it then.

It is cold, there should be wood in the place of the dervish.

More power to you!

All these are the tracks of Yunus Effendi.

The man we threw into the well turned out to be a counsellor, and...

...we accepted this as we were captivated.

Then he learned all of our secrets.

Now he has dissuaded our son.

With poison or with opium.

The sword is out of its sheath, Yellow Agha!

The one who runs the felt-maker property, is Felt-maker Argun...

...Tapduk Emre will also accept it, as everyone else has.

If they do not agree, they can establish their Lodge in some other place.

Have a good day, sire.

I will prepare the table.

Why did you take so long at the market, woman?

I stopped by my mother too.

From now on, it is forbidden to go to Tapduk Emre Lodge.

That was the last time!

From now on, we do not want to hear such news again, woman!

Even an exception is beyond our acceptance.

As you wish, sire.

What is this, Yellow Agha?

We are all trapped by the four sides...

...we cannot see the truth behind.

Our ancestors say that misdeeds arise from goodness.

We should follow the words of our ancestors, Yellow Agha.

If they see us as the enemy...

...then let's be as they see us.

If you do not have an order, Sister?

Why is our sire like this, Aygul?

Yunus Effendi quit and left and I suppose he is suffering for it.

Yunus Effendi.

He quit?

What could the reason be?

Yunus Agha.

Did not you go to work?

I did not.

Why did not you go?

From now on, we will not go to the mansion.

I quit.

Thanks!

You also got the cruelty of the Sire, do not you?

Of course I got it.

Well, if you do not warn in time, we will be late in understanding it.

Dash it!

You quit your job, exactly the opposite, I have something to do at the market.

I’m going on an errand for the Ahis

We were taking a ride around.

Should I go tomorrow?

No way!

Permission, Sheik.

Amin.

Come in, Kasim, come in.

Well, what is the dervish doing, Kasim?

Everybody is going about their own business, Sheik.

However, Yunus Effendi chopped wood round the side.

He did not go to work, did he? Let him chop, let him chop.

It will be a dry and cold night, we need wood.

Even the dervish sees service, Sheik.

Is this why you have not sent him on duty today?

It is not a problem, Kasim.

Yunus Effendi decided to,...

...acting on orders.

From now on, he is here in our Lodge.

Forgive me my Sultan, but...

...we're doing our best and...

...putting the affairs of our Lodge to rights.

Did you see any deficiency, any fault, Sheik?

Our eyes do not see the complete picture, Kasim.

How can they see any deficiency?

Seeing as you made Yunus Effendi abandon the job...

...we thought we did something wrong while we were running the Lodge...

...Sheik? It is not our business, Kasim.

It is his own decision.

Ask away, Adem Agha.

What will I ask, Adem Effendi?

He thinks that you are angry with him because of what he told me.

I said do not be afraid, come and tell me.

Why would we be angry with Adem Effendi, Ismail?

Does he say that being a dervish is just down to the cardigan and crown?

He says what the others say.

Do not kill the messenger.

Doesn't Adem Effendi know that...

...cardigans and crowns are just wardrobe?

It is not the personality.

Come and sit next to the fire.

Come.

It is very cold outside. Get warm, get warm.

If you are looking for a sign...

...the distinctive sign of being a dervish is not hurting people's feelings.

What does our Sheik say?

The heart is the throne of Chabap, Chalap listened to his heart.

So we should not hurt his feelings.

If you hurt someone's feelings purposely...

...if you hurt someone's heart...

...then what is your ablution, your prayer?

In the name of God, in the name of God.

In the name of God, in the name of God.

Well, you're coming today and we will go to the fountain, right?

I forgot, I swear.

So, of course you run away instead of being helpful.

When did I run when you said that you needed me, Sister?

But Yunus Agha, when I was here...

...I forgot when I was here with him.

Did Yunus Agha not go to the mansion today?

It is not only for today, he quit.

Who said that he quit? Well, who would say? He said it himself.

He says he quit, left.

Why did he quit? Well, I do not know that either.

I was surprised and I did not ask.

Well, okay.

Go and wash your hands and we will go to dinner.

I will eat later, I'm going to prayer.

We will eat with the Sheik grandfather after the conversation.

Okay then, we will come too.

I hope nothing is wrong, my daughter, but are you surprised?

No, there is something strange about today.

What is it?

Ismail was here and he says that Yunus Effendi...

...quit the consultancy of the Monsieur.

God!

Today? Yes, today.

My father knows that of course, he would not do anything behind his back.

God!

Zahide came here today.

When you went to visit, we met at the market.

She did not tell that she would come. What did she say?

We were almost fighting, mother. What do you say, my daughter?

What is your problem? She's saying such idiotic things.

Who I am in love with and so on, you would think she has nothing else to do.

You grew up together, my daughter.

You are like sisters, are you not?

Of course she is wondering who her sister is in love with.

Come on, let us go and say our prayers.

Yunus Agha said that he quit, he said that himself.

God!

Did not he say what the reason was? He did not.

Here he comes.

You can ask him what the reason is.

Peace be with you. Peace be with you too, Yunus Effendi.

Ismail Effendi was telling me that you quit your job in the mansion.

Yes, I did.

I'm hoping for the best, Yunus Effendi.

We did not know the reason but I guess it should be this way.

Yes, dervish, it should be this way.

Well, you can come to market tomorrow...

...and we can run errands for the Ahis.

Can we say our prayers first...

...and then you can have some fun, dervishes?

Ismail Effendi.

If Adem Effendi gives advice to you...

...come and tell me first.

He does not give advice anymore.

The shoe is on the other foot now, it is time to get advice.

When Ibrahim Ethem went to Basra one day...

...the people who know his Excellency gathered in the mosque courtyard.

They said, "Oh Excellency."

"Even if we pray insistently our prayers are not answered anymore.

Please tell us, for what reason could this be?"

Ibrahim Ethem prepares a list of reasons...

...in ten points, one by one.

And he delivers it to the person of Basra.

"First, you say that you know God...

...but you do not follow his orders.

Second, you read the Koran...

...but you do not live in accordance with its meaning.

You say that you love the prophet...

...but you do not follow him as a guide."

How many are there, my dear?

"The fourth is that you say that the devil is your enemy...

...but you are friends with him.

You say that you desire heaven but you do not try to deserve it.

You claim that you are afraid of hell...

...but you have made marked efforts to get there."

How many is that, Ismail?

That is the sixth. Then I shall say the seventh.

"You say that death is proper order...

...but you do not prepare yourselves for it.

You are dealing with the shame of the people...

...but you do not see your own shame.

You make the best of God...

...but you are not grateful for that."

Well, we've come to the last one.

"You bury your dead...

...but you do not think that you'll be...

...buried one day."

It is so, Ismail. I hope we did not bother you.

Do I ever get bored?

You promised first thing when I came here.

I forgot because you had word from Sultan Ibrahim Ethem to pass on.

Well, we should not promise, dervish.

What does Haci Bektash Sultan say?

Die but do not promise, and die but do not break your promise.

Well then, what does the story of Excellency tell us?

What is the main point?

What happened to us happened because we forgot to be grateful for this.

The messenger of God, the prophet...

...who is reason for praise, said...

...that praise is to see blessings.

Fortunately, it is still going on.

There are three kinds of thanksgiving.

The most praiseworthy is to thank goodness for the presence of existence.

The second is to praise trouble.

The last one is a good one.

It is to accept unconditionally whatever comes

knowing that whatever happens is god’s will.

We forgot to be grateful for existence but...

...we rebel at the first sign of trouble.

Is this proper?

The good one said that the pleasant is nice, as is trouble.

Then the cruel one quit being cruel...

...and you blame him for that.

Turn the mirror on yourself and try to find the fault there.

You cannot say that we are innocent and they are oppressing us.

The provision is clear.

We are governed in the way we are.

Nothing comes before...

...our own will.

Then nobody can do anything to that person.

Whatever you do, you do it to yourself.

Permission, Kasim Effendi. Come on in, come.

Leave it here.

Well done.

You cut the firewood very well.

You have the spirit, the spirit.

But the effort, the effort.

Yunus Effendi cut the wood and piled it up.

We did not tell you to cut the wood picked up by Yunus Effendi...

...Did we say that if Adem Effendi was not here, to go and cut the wood?

Yunus Effendi, why did you bother when there already was one ready...

Just apologize once, you always have a response!

What does Ismail Effendi say?

Something about the time to take advice or the like?

He means what Yunus Effendi said, Kasim Effendi.

Whom? To me.

Why do you care about Yunus Effendi, Adem?

Our Sheik bonded us to each other, don't you know?

Well...

...what did Yunus Effendi tell you?

Tell me? He didn't say anything, Kasim Effendi.

He said something about the dervish's work.

God!

What is it?

Tell me so we can be trained, Adem!

Tell me, what did he say?

He did not say anything, Kasim Effendi.

He says not to hurt people's feelings, the heart is most important to Chalap.

If you hurt someone's feelings then you do not need to pray.

So, there is no need for ablution, for prayer, correct?

No, no, no, Kasim Effendi.

Yunus Effendi, you said something to Adem, did you not?

The child is sleep.

What did you tell Adem? Kasim Effendi, the child is asleep.

Well, then we shall talk outside.

You said something to Adem, Yunus Effendi, I said no...

...that cannot be our dervish who said such things!

What did I say that you cannot believe, Kasim Effendi?

Are you joking with us, Yunus Effendi, do not you know...

...that is poison to the person we raised!

You're right, of course.

Thanks be to God! God!

Do not try any sleight of mouth, if Judge had heard what you said...

...he would perform the rites for apostates.

As our Sheik says, the heart is the throne of Chalap, Kasim Effendi?

How could you claim otherwise?

It is not wrong to return to right from the right.

You just came yesterday, you could not see because of your arrogance...

...will you teach us how to be a dervish today, Yunus Effendi?

We opened our eyes to fight for right, it does not matter!

Judge Yunus Effendi says it that all is well at the Lodge.

Not at all, Kasim Effendi.

We have no fight.

Do you see us as children and joke with us?

Pull yourself together!

What does it mean, prayer is for nothing? Those people do not need to pray?

That is slander, Kasim Effendi.

You make accusations of disobedience of God's orders.

We did not say a word to that end.

Let the listener extract the meaning, Yunus Effendi.

Do not we know what the word we heard means?

Do not worry. We have been in madrasah.

How do you know whose prayer is not answered?

How can you say it is for nothing Yunus Effendi? What do you mean?

While we fight to save people from sin,...

...you fight for what purpose,...

...to comment on the worship of others?

Kasim Effendi, we did not say that prayer is for nothing...

...and we did not say that no one should say prayers.

The one takes this meaning from what we said...

...gives merely an outline of what we created.

We said the person hurts someone's feelings purposely...

...that person prays for nothing.

We still say it and we believe it.

Yunus Effendi, did not you study hadiths in Karatay?

Prayer is the basis of religion, the basis!

How can you demolish this foundation?

Slander befits the person who defames, Kasim Effendi.

If you defame others on purpose, so be it.

We cannot stop you.

Do you need a verse or hadith for it?

Well, everything is here. The ground or the sky would not be big enough...

...to fill what I fit in my beloved's heart, Kasim Effendi.

That day, neither property nor son can help you.

It says that the only thing that will help people is to have...

...a clear heart that they...

...give to God in Suara Sura.

Our Sheik describes it so.

Now do we...

...demolish the basis of the religion by repeating the verse in your presence?

Do we become apostates by repeating the verse?

It is clear that from here we will learn to fight and be dervishes.

We will not learn from you what our Sheik will say, nor how he will say it!

It is improper that you use what our Sheik taught us to make us believe...

...your falsehoods.

It would be another sin to use the truth in service of the false!

What do you say now, Yunus Effendi?

If we do not need prayer...

...how about an irreligious, non-praying dervish for the people?

If you do not come back from your swearing-in, and continue doing that...

...on purpose then it should be called irreligious.

Well, if a person wants to be irreligious, then that person is called irreligious!