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There is some evidence to suggest
that Hayley... was strangled.
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DCI Stuart,
Hayley was a friend of mine.
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I was supposed to be doing
a cleaning job,
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Hayley did the job for me.
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It was in a holiday rental.
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I'd forgotten
that's who we let it to.
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He does that quiz show on the BBC.
James Hollis.
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Just give me ten minutes,
I'm not feeling 100%.
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Dad, this is not about the past.
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Or, at least, not the past
you're talking about.
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I love you.
I love you, too.
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Tim, it's your word against hers.
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I pretended to go out.
I just heard him go for her.
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I don't believe
I ever lost my temper.
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I'd appreciate having somebody here.
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They took money
I had for a deposit on a flat.
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I do think you should consider
opening a bank account.
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No. No. No. No. No bank accounts.
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I would feel very lucky to be able
to help you grow stronger.
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There'll be money
in the joint account tomorrow.
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Mr Carr sold my father a cash ISA.
We want to cancel it.
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I can't see any paperwork here.
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Mr Hollis, we wondered
if you had five minutes, please,
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to help us with a case
we're investigating.
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I will need my lawyer present.
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Els, it's Dad again.
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They've come about her.
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♪ All we do is hide away
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♪ All we do is
All we do is hide away
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♪ All we do is lie and wait
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♪ All we do is
All we do is lie and wait
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♪ I've been upside down
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♪ I don't wanna be
The right way round
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♪ Can't find paradise
On the ground. ♪
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PAN SIZZLES
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Oh, shit!
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Oh, you...
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Dad!
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Dad!
Yeah?
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Morning.
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Blimey! Are you all right?
You left a pan on.
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Me? No.
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Yeah, I walked in
and it was burning.
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Is that your porridge?
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This was off when I left.
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Right. Well, I've, like,
literally just walked in.
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So...
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Well, it's still under warranty.
I'll get in touch with the company.
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I'm sorry. If I knew anything,
I'd tell you, Mr Hollis.
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You know I would.
I do. But if you do hear anything,
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tell him I need to speak to him.
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Tell him it's really urgent.
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And, so, in the end,
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the case really came down to
one person's word against another's.
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And in this instance,
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we feel bound to consider Dr Finch's
many years' exemplary practice
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and his reputation
as a hard-working, generous
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and trustworthy GP.
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And as such, we find
we do not uphold the complaint.
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I heard him. He might sit there now
looking like butter wouldn't melt,
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but he's got another side to him.
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Yeah, you look embarrassed, mate.
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You should, cos you're a disgrace!
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Guv...
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Yeah?
He is here...
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'Peter, its Mark Harper.
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'Kate and I can find no record
of any paperwork
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'relating to an ISA
in the name of Salthouse
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'and I need to know today
how a three-grand cheque from him
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'has been cashed.
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'So you really need to call me.'
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DOOR CLOSES
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There.
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OK, er...
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..I'm going to change
all of your settings
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so that only your friends
can comment.
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What does it make them feel
when they say those things?
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I doubt very much
they feel anything at all, Mum.
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Cos they're messed up.
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And that, that isn't about Dad
or about you or Hayley.
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It's about them.
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It's just a mirror people hold up
to themselves to shout at.
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I wanted, if I may, erm,
to ask you about a house you rented
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in Middenham, in December 1999,
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which I believe...
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..was an eight-bedroom house.
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Yes, I can't remember specifically
but, yes, it was big.
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There were a bunch of us.
Three other families?
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Yes, although,
for the first few days,
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there were only me and three mates.
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Erm, our wives and kids
joined us on New Year's Eve.
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Right.
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It was primarily a golfing break.
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Oh, OK.
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Erm, and what were their names,
please, the men?
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Tim Finch.
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Chris Lowe.
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Pete Carr.
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And are they all still around?
Yep.
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Still friends?
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Yes, we were at school together,
so it's a long connection.
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And the families, erm, can you
give me details of those people?
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Tim was there
with his first wife Derran
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and their, er... two little girls.
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Pete was single at that time,
so on his own.
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And Chris Lowe was with his first
wife Laura and their little girl.
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And your wife?
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Yes, my wife Mel
and our little boy Eliot.
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Are you two still together?
No.
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I remarried a few years ago.
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Oh.
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So, this is a photo of Hayley Reid.
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Do you recognise her?
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Yes.
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And is that just from the papers?
Sorry, where is this heading?
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SHE SIGHS
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We're just trying to corroborate
evidence from another witness,
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who thinks Hayley might have cleaned
the house you rented.
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I have no recollection of that.
You never saw her there?
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No.
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I mean, we were out most days,
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but, hey, this story was huge
and her photo was all over the TV.
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So, if she had cleaned our house
and any of us had have seen her,
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then I think someone would have
mentioned something. Absolutely.
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When did you return to London,
Mr Hollis?
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Erm, when the rental ended,
which would be...
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..perhaps, er,
around the second or third.
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And you drove back up
with your wife and child? Yes.
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How did they got down there
on the 31st?
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Train. I picked them up
from a nearby station.
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OK. And this is the last question.
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Erm... what did you all get up to
on the Millennium evening?
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Erm...
Well, as I remember, we, er...
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..we had a meal in the house,
all together.
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Then, I think the, erm...
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..the children stayed up a bit,
till about nine or ten.
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I think the adults watched a movie
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and then all went to bed
after Big Ben.
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Is that all of you?
As I recall, yes.
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And then no-one went out again
for the rest of the night?
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No.
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OK.
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That's it.
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Thank you.
Thank you very much for your time.
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Sorry...
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You said you guys met at school.
Yes.
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Where was that,
the school you went to? Finchley.
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Right. And you all, erm...
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..lived round that area?
Within a couple of miles, yes.
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OK, thanks again.
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Well, I think we want
to know more about four guys
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who grew up
half a mile from her grave.
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I think we do.
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Hollis, you wanker.
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CAMERA CLICKS
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Shit!
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And this sort of sized garden
is very unusual
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for a flat in this part of the city.
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It's also west-facing, so...
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Anyway, have a natter
and I'll be outside if you need me.
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Thank you.
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He's never had a garden
with grass before.
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You like it.
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I think it's perfect.
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What?
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There's a "but" coming.
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But...
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..if we're going to be
properly together...
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..I need to know who you are, Chris.
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Who I am?
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How does someone like you, so...
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..brilliant, so lovely...
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..end up like you have?
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How does that happen?
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So we had two key leads
that I believed
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were potentially significant,
but were never resolved.
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St Matthew's C of E,
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which was burgled at some
point that New Year's Eve,
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with about five grand's worth
of 18-century silverware
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taken from a locked cupboard
in the vestry.
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Blood smears were retrieved on
some smashed glass into the vestry,
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but there were no matches
with anyone on our database.
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The church
is about halfway between The Swan
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and Hayley's parents'
original house.
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And one possible theory was that
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she saw something after
she left work,
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she went to investigate and
ran into the burglar or burglars.
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Certainly, I believe
it's worth following up again.
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And then a black car,
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which was seen driving
very erratically on the road
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between The Swan and her house
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at approximately 12:25,
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maybe 15 minutes after we know
she left the pub.
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No reg or make,
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but the witness thought
it was a black four-door saloon
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with a tow bar.
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Oh, and it's worth mentioning that
the weather was very bad that night,
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with heavy rain
from about 11 o'clock onwards
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and very poor visibility.
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That's it.
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So John will be available
for the rest of the day,
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and then on the phone,
at any point, for any questions.
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But given what he's just told us,
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I suggest DNA swabs should be taken
from any suspects we speak to.
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Thank you again, John.
That was very useful.
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So...
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..specific points of action.
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Fran, can you double-check
all these timelines, please,
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for Hayley's movements
on the night of her disappearance
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and the week before?
Boss.
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Murray, you take the witness
who saw this car. Yup.
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And, Jake, obviously,
the body was found in London
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and, given that new development,
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it's worth having another chat
with Adrian Mullery, I think. Guv.
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And following this morning's
interview with James Hollis,
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myself and DI Khan
will certainly be speaking
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to the other three male occupants
of The Spinney.
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OK, that's it. Thank you, everyone.
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That was great. Thank you again.
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Yeah. No problem.
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So are you heading back down tonight
or...?
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No. No, no, my kids
live with their mum in town,
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so I'm going to stick around, spend
some time with them for a few days.
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Right. How old are they?
21 and 20.
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Ah, same as mine. Boys or...?
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Two boys.
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Jinx.
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Hm!
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Er, anyway, I better go
and check into the hotel, so...
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Go for it. And we will speak soon,
I hope. Yeah, absolutely.
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John... Thanks for that.
That was great.
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Listen, er... if you're at
a loose end any evening,
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there's always a few of us
at The Enterprise,
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if you fancy a drink.
It's just opposite.
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Yeah, great. Cheers.
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I might take you up on that.
Good.
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All right, see you.
See you.
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See you.
Cheers.
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SHE CLEARS HER THROAT
You're welcome.
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PHONE RINGS
Oh!
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Hola, gordo conejo.
Hola, muy gordo conejo.
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How you doing?
Yeah, all good. You?
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Yeah, very well. I've just been
in Manchester on a work thing,
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driving back to Sussex now with Caz.
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Oh, right. Give her my love.
I will.
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But listen, very quickly,
I presume you've seen the news
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about the Hayley Reid case.
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Yeah, I did. It's very sad.
Oh, wasn't it?
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Anyway, the police are obviously
doing a general trawl
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for potential new witnesses.
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And they spoke to me this morning
about the house we rented.
252
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Right.
253
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Apparently they think
she may have been our cleaner. Wow!
254
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I said I couldn't recall us
having a cleaner
255
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and I certainly think one of us
would have noticed
256
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if it had have been her, given
the amount of coverage. Indeed.
257
00:15:24,180 --> 00:15:26,180
Anyway, the long and short is
258
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they're probably going to want to
speak to the whole gang of us, so...
259
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..I just thought
that I ought to let you know.
260
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Yeah, no worries.
261
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Obviously,
they're looking for people
262
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who may have seen something
that only now seems relevant.
263
00:15:38,860 --> 00:15:41,380
But I told them we all
stayed in the house that night,
264
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eating with our families, so...
265
00:15:43,820 --> 00:15:45,540
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
266
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I'll give Pete a bell and maybe
you could give Chris the heads up?
267
00:15:48,580 --> 00:15:49,580
Sure.
268
00:15:49,740 --> 00:15:51,500
And I've e-mailed some dates
for our meet-up.
269
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Oh, yeah, I saw. Erm...
270
00:15:53,580 --> 00:15:55,740
..I can do any of those.
Excellent!
271
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Speak soon, mate.
272
00:15:57,660 --> 00:15:59,140
Yeah, cheers, Jamie.
273
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Jamie sends his love.
274
00:16:04,220 --> 00:16:06,060
How is he?
275
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Oh, he's very well.
276
00:16:07,940 --> 00:16:10,780
He's just, er... trying to arrange
a get-together.
277
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The four amigos.
278
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That'll be nice.
279
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Yeah, it will.
280
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It's been too long. Much too long.
281
00:16:20,980 --> 00:16:22,460
Of course I remember.
282
00:16:22,660 --> 00:16:24,740
I was meant to have bought
the puddings and I forgot,
283
00:16:24,780 --> 00:16:27,340
so I legged it to the corner shop
and bought a load of Cornettos,
284
00:16:27,380 --> 00:16:29,340
which your ex
wasn't too happy about.
285
00:16:29,540 --> 00:16:32,460
Anyway, I just wanted to check that
you remembered it the same as I did.
286
00:16:32,620 --> 00:16:34,460
So, we're all ready for the 22nd.
287
00:16:34,660 --> 00:16:37,980
Chris has replied now so I'll book
a table and send you all a link.
288
00:16:38,180 --> 00:16:40,620
Just one quick thing before you go,
Jamie.
289
00:16:40,820 --> 00:16:43,140
Actually, I'm literally
just heading into a meeting, mate.
290
00:16:43,300 --> 00:16:44,900
Yeah, yeah, I'll be ten seconds.
291
00:16:45,060 --> 00:16:47,260
Jamie... I need a massive favour.
292
00:16:50,540 --> 00:16:52,380
I was married for, er...
293
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..12 years
294
00:16:54,620 --> 00:16:56,780
and I had... have, I have a daughter,
295
00:16:56,940 --> 00:16:58,420
Maya,
296
00:16:58,580 --> 00:17:01,020
who I last saw 17 years ago.
297
00:17:02,780 --> 00:17:05,900
My marriage ended early 2000.
298
00:17:07,820 --> 00:17:10,580
And because of some issues
that I had at the time,
299
00:17:10,740 --> 00:17:12,380
my wife Laura,
300
00:17:12,580 --> 00:17:15,340
she felt it was damaging for Maya
to be around that.
301
00:17:15,500 --> 00:17:18,060
And I'd run up some debts.
302
00:17:18,260 --> 00:17:21,820
So I went from living in
a nice house in Notting Hill to...
303
00:17:21,980 --> 00:17:23,860
..a one-bedroom flat in Acton...
304
00:17:25,500 --> 00:17:27,660
..and then a hostel and...
305
00:17:29,180 --> 00:17:31,100
..and then the streets.
306
00:17:31,260 --> 00:17:32,540
How long were you homeless?
307
00:17:34,380 --> 00:17:36,780
On and off for seven years.
308
00:17:36,940 --> 00:17:38,260
Oh, Chris...
309
00:17:39,500 --> 00:17:42,100
I'm so sorry.
SHE SIGHS
310
00:17:42,300 --> 00:17:44,220
And you had no friends
who could have helped you?
311
00:17:44,260 --> 00:17:46,940
Yeah. Yeah. I had friends who would
have been desperate to help me.
312
00:17:47,140 --> 00:17:50,020
Yeah, but you have to want
to be helped. And I didn't.
313
00:17:50,220 --> 00:17:53,820
I hated myself. I thought I deserved
everything that happened to me.
314
00:17:53,980 --> 00:17:55,420
And your marriage...
315
00:17:56,660 --> 00:17:58,940
..the issues you mention?
316
00:17:59,100 --> 00:18:00,420
OK, so...
317
00:18:00,620 --> 00:18:03,660
..as you know,
I have bipolar disorder,
318
00:18:03,860 --> 00:18:06,740
which was undiagnosed at the time,
and so it was unmedicated,
319
00:18:06,900 --> 00:18:08,380
which meant that...
320
00:18:09,420 --> 00:18:12,860
..you know, my behaviour
was... challenging.
321
00:18:13,980 --> 00:18:16,140
And as soon as I started
costing my company money,
322
00:18:16,180 --> 00:18:18,340
it was inevitable
I'd be asked to step down.
323
00:18:19,780 --> 00:18:21,900
HE CHUCKLES
324
00:18:21,940 --> 00:18:24,700
And that was
just not what she had married,
325
00:18:24,900 --> 00:18:27,260
an unemployed man
who had mental health issues.
326
00:18:29,180 --> 00:18:30,740
So she asked me to leave.
327
00:18:32,500 --> 00:18:33,900
And I did.
328
00:18:35,140 --> 00:18:37,940
And then, 18 months later,
she married a hedge fund manager,
329
00:18:38,140 --> 00:18:40,100
who bought her a house
in Holland Park, so...
330
00:18:43,340 --> 00:18:45,500
And then, in 2012...
331
00:18:46,900 --> 00:18:51,420
..Maya wrote to tell me that
Laura had died from breast cancer...
332
00:18:52,740 --> 00:18:54,740
..and to ask that I stay away
from the funeral.
333
00:18:56,380 --> 00:18:59,380
I thought about writing back,
and saying that I was better now,
334
00:18:59,540 --> 00:19:01,180
that I was a different person.
335
00:19:01,340 --> 00:19:02,660
And I am.
336
00:19:04,620 --> 00:19:06,180
But I think there comes a time
337
00:19:06,380 --> 00:19:08,380
when you have to accept
how things have turned out.
338
00:19:09,900 --> 00:19:12,540
That life can sometimes
simply be unfair.
339
00:19:13,780 --> 00:19:15,500
And to keep resisting that...
340
00:19:16,660 --> 00:19:19,100
..it takes so much energy, Mila.
341
00:19:20,500 --> 00:19:23,540
Energy that you need for the future.
342
00:19:39,460 --> 00:19:41,100
Love?
343
00:19:41,260 --> 00:19:42,820
In here.
344
00:19:44,220 --> 00:19:45,580
Hey, Pete.
345
00:19:46,700 --> 00:19:48,140
Hello, Mark.
346
00:19:48,300 --> 00:19:50,420
What a lovely lady your missus is.
347
00:19:51,900 --> 00:19:53,060
I was just about to call you.
348
00:19:53,260 --> 00:19:55,700
You're punching above your weight
there, buddy.
349
00:20:00,940 --> 00:20:02,340
Three grand.
350
00:20:02,500 --> 00:20:03,820
And my apologies.
351
00:20:05,580 --> 00:20:08,580
I was stressed about some deals
and screwed up the paperwork.
352
00:20:08,780 --> 00:20:12,300
I accidentally paid Salthouse's
cheque into my personal account.
353
00:20:12,460 --> 00:20:14,180
But, er...
354
00:20:15,500 --> 00:20:16,780
..there it is.
355
00:20:18,460 --> 00:20:19,780
All there.
356
00:20:25,340 --> 00:20:28,140
You know what we used to call
blokes like Pete, Maria?
357
00:20:30,100 --> 00:20:31,540
Filth.
358
00:20:32,740 --> 00:20:35,300
Failed in London, tried Hong-Kong.
359
00:20:35,500 --> 00:20:37,740
Bit of a Wild West out there,
wasn't it, mate?
360
00:20:37,940 --> 00:20:40,180
Attracted a very distinct
sort of person.
361
00:20:41,620 --> 00:20:43,380
I see you, buddy.
362
00:20:47,860 --> 00:20:50,300
Lovely to meet you, Maria.
I'll let myself out.
363
00:20:56,700 --> 00:20:58,340
DOOR CLOSES
364
00:20:59,380 --> 00:21:00,820
I'm sorry about that.
365
00:21:05,700 --> 00:21:07,100
I need a shower.
366
00:21:09,380 --> 00:21:10,940
This isn't working, Pete.
367
00:21:12,380 --> 00:21:13,940
You and me.
368
00:21:16,100 --> 00:21:17,540
I'm sorry, but...
369
00:21:19,380 --> 00:21:21,540
..this just isn't what I thought
I was buying.
370
00:21:22,759 --> 00:21:24,199
It'll get better, babes.
371
00:21:26,260 --> 00:21:27,940
Trust me.
372
00:21:29,151 --> 00:21:31,431
I've got some really good business
coming in.
373
00:21:44,714 --> 00:21:46,034
CAR DOOR CLOSES
374
00:21:55,120 --> 00:21:58,620
Oh, I forgot to say, I've got
a couple of guests arriving.
375
00:21:58,965 --> 00:22:00,605
Can you show them in, please, Liz?
376
00:22:00,679 --> 00:22:01,785
Yes.
377
00:22:02,531 --> 00:22:04,131
Thanks.
378
00:22:16,681 --> 00:22:18,361
Adrian...
379
00:22:19,585 --> 00:22:21,425
Have you got five minutes?
380
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,680
Well, obviously I recognise her,
381
00:22:38,739 --> 00:22:41,777
but I don't recall ever seeing her
at the house at any point.
382
00:22:42,464 --> 00:22:43,655
As Jamie said,
383
00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,824
if we had have seen her, we would
have discussed it at the time.
384
00:22:46,899 --> 00:22:49,179
It was a huge story.
Absolutely.
385
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:53,360
Er, so...
386
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:57,200
..Mr Hollis, he told us
that the four of you had gone down
387
00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,240
on your own, at first, to play golf.
Yes.
388
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:06,854
And then your wife Derran
and your girls arrived on the 31st.
389
00:23:07,112 --> 00:23:08,215
Yes.
390
00:23:08,318 --> 00:23:10,598
And how old were they, the kids?
391
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:14,040
Er, Claire would have been eight
392
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,080
and Emma just turned ten.
393
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,080
I'm sorry,
just to go back on one thing.
394
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:22,160
New Year's, the kids
would have gone to bed at...?
395
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,520
Er, nine, ten, maybe.
396
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,680
And no-one went out after that?
Nope.
397
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,320
What car where you driving
back then, Dr Finch?
398
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,640
Erm...
399
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:39,240
..I had my Audi in '99, I think.
400
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:40,840
An A4.
401
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:42,880
Sorry, was that the saloon or...?
402
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:47,840
No, the estate. We needed
the space for holidays and stuff.
403
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,520
To save faffing around with a
top box or a trailer or any of that.
404
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:53,920
And what colour was it?
405
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:56,720
Silver.
406
00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:01,240
And your wife and kids,
they went down by train?
407
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,600
With Jamie's wife and son.
408
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,920
And everybody headed back to London
on the 2nd? Yes.
409
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:12,520
Did you all live in London then?
410
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,680
All except Pete.
411
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:16,600
He lived in Hong Kong.
412
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,600
And your marriage to Derran,
that ended when?
413
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,880
What relevance has
when my marriage ended to anything?
414
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,960
Sorry. If any question
makes you feel uncomfortable,
415
00:24:34,120 --> 00:24:35,600
you don't have to answer.
416
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:39,280
We separated in 2001.
417
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:40,600
OK.
418
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,680
And do you remember when Mr Hollis
and his wife separated?
419
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,680
Same year, I think. Or maybe 2000.
420
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:49,640
And Chris Lowe and his wife?
421
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,320
Yeah, roughly the same time.
422
00:24:54,120 --> 00:24:56,080
And are you still in contact
with Derran,
423
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,440
if we wanted to speak with her?
424
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,440
I haven't seen Derran
for many years,
425
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,800
but I can get a number from my kids,
if you need it.
426
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:04,440
That would be very helpful,
thank you.
427
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,520
Oh, I should just say that, er...
428
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:13,840
..she's had a number of issues
over the last couple of decades,
429
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,520
depression, anxiety and so, erm...
430
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,000
..I'm not entirely sure
you'll find her
431
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:20,680
the most reliable of narrators.
432
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:21,840
OK.
433
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:24,480
Well, thank you for that.
434
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,080
And then, one last thing,
435
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,560
and, er... I should say,
436
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:32,280
do feel free to say no.
437
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,160
But in order to help
eliminate you from our enquiries,
438
00:25:36,360 --> 00:25:38,640
how would you feel about
giving us a DNA swab?
439
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:41,240
Yes, of course. No problem.
440
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:47,360
So, if nobody went out after ten,
then it can't be them.
441
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,360
I mean, we know Hayley
was seen alive at 12:10, so...
442
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:53,240
Yeah, I think you're right.
443
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,400
And if we're spinning our wheels
on these guys,
444
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,360
I don't want to waste any more time.
445
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,120
Let's take the last two separately.
446
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:02,880
Hi, Dad, it's me.
447
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:05,960
Look, I'm really sorry,
I'm going to be a bit late.
448
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,400
Please... call me.
449
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,600
How many times
have you been here before, Jamie?
450
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:26,200
It'll be fine.
451
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,520
You know,
the longer this goes on...
452
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,200
..the more his problems...
453
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:34,920
..consume him.
454
00:26:36,120 --> 00:26:40,360
The more you look at the paths we
took, the choices we made, I made...
455
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:42,800
..and think...
456
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:45,760
..was it then?
457
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:47,800
Was it that choice...
458
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:49,720
..or that choice...
459
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:51,680
..that messed everything up?
460
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:53,320
Was it then...
461
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:56,680
..that I ruined my child's life?
462
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,160
JAMIE ON PHONE: Call me.
463
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:19,680
GENERAL CHATTER
464
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:21,880
Sometimes, I just...
ROOM FALLS SILENT
465
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:23,400
Hi...
Hello.
466
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,920
Gemma left some school books
at mine, I brought them round.
467
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,800
And then she wanted to show me
her room. Right.
468
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:30,920
Lovely place, though.
Thank you.
469
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,760
Anyway, I need to shoot off.
470
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,240
Nice to see you.
And you.
471
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:39,640
Bye, girls.
472
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,440
Bye.
Bye.
473
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:51,680
Yeah, well, you see, I'm from the
clip-round-the-ear-hole generation.
474
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,480
I think he'd still like to,
to be honest. Oh, dear.
475
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,400
And do you have children?
No!
476
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,520
Never had the urge to be a mother.
477
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,080
Wow. Smart move.
Tell me about it.
478
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,240
They take so much from you,
don't they?
479
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,160
Not sure I'd see it quite like.
Just, I'm too selfish, I think.
480
00:28:06,360 --> 00:28:08,240
Yeah?
Liked my career too much.
481
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,600
I think, if you are going to have
children, you need to be around.
482
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,160
Whoops.
Well, yes.
483
00:28:15,360 --> 00:28:19,040
I mean, an evening like tonight,
it's fine you letting us down,
484
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,800
but how did you cope
when that was your kids,
485
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,160
turning up two hours late
for supper?
486
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,720
Oh, we, erm... muddled through.
487
00:28:29,120 --> 00:28:31,360
Anyway, Dad tells me
you're off to Venice at the weekend.
488
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:35,320
I know. You should tell him
to stop spoiling me. I should.
489
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:37,840
And first class, too.
490
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:40,320
Venice?
491
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:44,600
HE LAUGHS
492
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,920
THEY ALL LAUGH
493
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:51,600
Right. Yeah.
494
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,320
Funny. Very funny.
495
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,640
Actually that's not quite
what I said.
496
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,560
OK.
497
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,400
I have it here, you said you
saw her leave just after midnight.
498
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,040
No, I said she would have left
499
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:12,800
just after her shift ended
at midnight.
500
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,880
I never said I actually saw her.
501
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:16,240
Right.
502
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,920
Guy Halford, the manager,
he's the one who actually saw her.
503
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,160
Sorry. And so what was the last time
you saw her?
504
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,240
Just before 11.
505
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,840
I was working through till three
506
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,520
and I took a half-hour break then.
507
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,320
When Guy came back,
he put me in the bar
508
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,680
and I just presumed that Hayley
was finishing up in the restaurant.
509
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,640
And Guy Halford,
does he still live in Middenham?
510
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,400
Hi.
Hi.
511
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,840
I'm looking for Christopher Lowe.
512
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,080
Hello.
513
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:21,320
Go on...
514
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:23,800
Stay there. Stay.
515
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,160
Mr Carr?
Yeah.
516
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,760
DI Sunny Khan.
Have you got five minutes?
517
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:54,560
No, I'm...
518
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:55,840
Sorry.
519
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:57,160
OK.
520
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:01,440
Absolutely sure?
521
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,880
Yeah.
You know who she is, though?
522
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:06,880
Yeah. Of course, yeah.
523
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,840
I mean, I never saw her
in that house.
524
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,600
Are you OK, Mr Lowe?
Yeah.
525
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,320
Yeah, I just...
526
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:17,800
I don't cope with stress very well.
527
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,280
Would you prefer to have someone
with you? No. No.
528
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,120
No, I'm fine for now.
OK.
529
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,520
So we're just asking everyone
we speak to
530
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,680
a number of general questions
to help us with our enquiries.
531
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:33,160
So, can you tell me
what car you were driving that week?
532
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,120
I didn't take a car.
I went down with Tim.
533
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:40,240
And then, did you and your family
travel back with him or...?
534
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,760
My wife drove down
with our daughter
535
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:44,400
and we went back in her car.
536
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:45,800
Right.
537
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:47,520
So what car was she driving?
538
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,327
She would have been driving
the Maserati.
539
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:57,200
Right.
540
00:32:15,700 --> 00:32:18,980
You know what?
I think I did see her at the house.
541
00:32:21,352 --> 00:32:23,792
Right. Are you sure?
542
00:32:23,843 --> 00:32:26,043
Yeah. Just one time, but, er...
543
00:32:26,540 --> 00:32:28,700
..she's got a distinctive face,
I guess.
544
00:32:28,740 --> 00:32:30,770
I think that was her.
OK.
545
00:32:31,382 --> 00:32:32,862
Was that on your own or...?
546
00:32:32,897 --> 00:32:35,418
Erm, I'd come back
from a round early.
547
00:32:35,470 --> 00:32:38,426
I was still a bit jet-lagged, so
I went back to the house for a kip.
548
00:32:38,500 --> 00:32:41,620
Er, when I walked in,
she was there, hoovering.
549
00:32:41,820 --> 00:32:45,171
I said hello and asked if there
was anything else she could do,
550
00:32:45,218 --> 00:32:46,618
cos of the noise.
551
00:32:46,794 --> 00:32:48,273
What day would this have been?
552
00:32:48,298 --> 00:32:49,350
Oh...
553
00:32:49,585 --> 00:32:52,952
I'd have to check a calendar.
Do you know when it was rented from?
554
00:32:52,980 --> 00:32:54,070
Yeah.
555
00:32:54,095 --> 00:32:55,095
Er...
556
00:32:56,580 --> 00:32:57,980
..Monday the 27th.
557
00:32:58,180 --> 00:33:01,940
Monday. Well, we arrived
in the evening, I remember that.
558
00:33:02,140 --> 00:33:04,100
I think we just chilled
the next day,
559
00:33:04,300 --> 00:33:06,100
had a couple of bevvies
in the local
560
00:33:06,300 --> 00:33:08,060
and played our first round
the day after.
561
00:33:08,220 --> 00:33:10,860
So I'm thinking the Wednesday.
562
00:33:12,300 --> 00:33:15,300
Just to go back to the conversation
with her,
563
00:33:15,500 --> 00:33:17,900
was it just about the hoovering,
was it? Yeah.
564
00:33:18,100 --> 00:33:21,140
When I woke up, the other lads
were back and she'd gone.
565
00:33:21,340 --> 00:33:23,820
And you didn't discuss this
with any of the others?
566
00:33:25,300 --> 00:33:26,940
Discuss what?
567
00:33:28,340 --> 00:33:30,260
That this girl...
568
00:33:31,700 --> 00:33:34,260
..who later went missing, had been
in the house you all rented.
569
00:33:34,420 --> 00:33:36,020
No.
570
00:33:36,220 --> 00:33:39,060
I mean, I drove back to London
on the 2nd
571
00:33:39,260 --> 00:33:42,100
and then flew out to Hong Kong
first thing the next day, so...
572
00:33:43,500 --> 00:33:45,260
This was a big story?
573
00:33:46,620 --> 00:33:49,980
It was huge. It was in all
the national newspapers for weeks.
574
00:33:50,180 --> 00:33:52,660
Right, well, I had no idea
about that.
575
00:33:54,940 --> 00:33:58,340
And her photo being on the front
pages the last couple of days.
576
00:33:58,540 --> 00:34:01,740
Work's been pretty crazy. I haven't
had time to look at the papers.
577
00:34:02,980 --> 00:34:06,940
I'm sorry, but the first I've ever
heard of this girl is, er... now.
578
00:34:09,620 --> 00:34:12,460
I suppose one of us
would have cooked
579
00:34:12,660 --> 00:34:14,580
and then all of us,
with kids, I mean,
580
00:34:14,740 --> 00:34:16,340
would have eaten together.
581
00:34:16,500 --> 00:34:17,980
And that was a pleasant evening?
582
00:34:18,180 --> 00:34:20,100
Yeah.
Everyone had a nice time?
583
00:34:20,143 --> 00:34:22,036
Yeah, we had a nice time.
Why do you ask that?
584
00:34:22,060 --> 00:34:23,580
Well, just...
585
00:34:23,631 --> 00:34:28,431
Because Christmas and New Year
can be quite stressful, can't it?
586
00:34:28,780 --> 00:34:31,340
And I understand your marriage
broke down not long after.
587
00:34:31,375 --> 00:34:32,898
What has that got to do
with anything?
588
00:34:32,923 --> 00:34:34,656
Well, I wondered
if that was in any way
589
00:34:34,735 --> 00:34:37,575
connected to something
that happened on this break.
590
00:34:37,946 --> 00:34:40,706
You know, I think I do,
I do need someone with me.
591
00:34:40,742 --> 00:34:43,054
Mm. And I can arrange that.
Of course.
592
00:34:43,079 --> 00:34:44,922
But can you answer that question,
please?
593
00:34:44,947 --> 00:34:48,648
Because I'm aware that, of
the three of you that were married,
594
00:34:49,031 --> 00:34:52,054
all of you were separated
within the year.
595
00:34:52,140 --> 00:34:55,020
No, that was, that was,
that was nothing to do with anything
596
00:34:55,047 --> 00:34:56,551
that happened on that break.
597
00:34:56,576 --> 00:34:57,656
So...
598
00:34:59,072 --> 00:35:00,192
Sure.
599
00:35:01,657 --> 00:35:02,919
Who's that?
600
00:35:04,521 --> 00:35:08,980
That's my girlfriend and her son.
I want to stop now, please.
601
00:35:09,570 --> 00:35:11,130
One more thing.
602
00:35:14,820 --> 00:35:17,100
Lastly, we're asking everyone
that we speak to
603
00:35:17,300 --> 00:35:20,180
how they'd feel about
providing a DNA swab.
604
00:35:20,987 --> 00:35:22,987
Entirely voluntary of course.
605
00:35:23,529 --> 00:35:24,929
How would you feel about that?
606
00:35:25,815 --> 00:35:27,255
Not a problem.
607
00:35:27,391 --> 00:35:28,911
Good. It won't take a minute.
608
00:35:36,637 --> 00:35:38,780
Mr Mullery, DC Jake Collier.
609
00:35:38,808 --> 00:35:40,836
Have you got five minutes
for a quick chat, sir?
610
00:35:40,860 --> 00:35:42,180
Now, you'll have my home address,
611
00:35:42,300 --> 00:35:44,460
but you decided to come here
because you thought what?
612
00:35:44,500 --> 00:35:45,980
That I'd be embarrassed
613
00:35:46,180 --> 00:35:48,540
and gratefully duck into some
car so no-one saw?
614
00:35:48,740 --> 00:35:50,900
I just want to ask
a few quick questions, sir.
615
00:35:50,940 --> 00:35:52,940
So a couple of hours ago,
the head suggested
616
00:35:53,100 --> 00:35:54,540
that maybe I should take some leave.
617
00:35:54,620 --> 00:35:57,100
Some of the parents have been
uncomfortable with the situation.
618
00:35:57,260 --> 00:35:59,700
And, of course, I could refuse
because she has no legal right.
619
00:35:59,740 --> 00:36:02,180
But do you know what?
I have spent the past 18 years
620
00:36:02,380 --> 00:36:04,740
telling people
that I wasn't even charged,
621
00:36:04,940 --> 00:36:06,500
that not one single piece
of evidence
622
00:36:06,700 --> 00:36:08,420
could ever be found
to incriminate me,
623
00:36:08,580 --> 00:36:10,500
that the lead detective retired
624
00:36:10,700 --> 00:36:13,020
just before a misconduct case
could be brought against him.
625
00:36:13,100 --> 00:36:15,340
So I am knackered
626
00:36:15,540 --> 00:36:18,740
and I'll take the paid break,
thank you very much.
627
00:36:18,900 --> 00:36:20,140
But what it also means
628
00:36:20,340 --> 00:36:22,500
is that I am not remotely
fucking embarrassed, mate.
629
00:36:23,580 --> 00:36:26,140
I'm not remotely embarrassed
to stand here
630
00:36:26,340 --> 00:36:29,780
and tell you loudly,
no, I will not talk to you.
631
00:36:29,940 --> 00:36:31,420
I will not sit in a car or a room
632
00:36:31,620 --> 00:36:33,820
or anywhere with you,
voluntarily, ever.
633
00:36:34,020 --> 00:36:36,820
And if you want to arrest me,
be my guest.
634
00:36:37,020 --> 00:36:39,620
But I'll not say
another fucking word to you.
635
00:36:39,780 --> 00:36:41,300
Not even, "No comment."
636
00:36:41,460 --> 00:36:43,580
Because I think the police are scum.
637
00:36:43,620 --> 00:36:46,300
I think you lie.
I think you break the law.
638
00:36:46,500 --> 00:36:48,260
I think you take bribes
and you sell stories.
639
00:36:48,340 --> 00:36:52,220
But worse than that,
most unforgiveable of all,
640
00:36:52,380 --> 00:36:54,660
I think you're thick.
641
00:36:54,860 --> 00:36:57,540
I think your ranks are made up
of dim-witted mediocrity
642
00:36:57,740 --> 00:36:59,620
who joined the force
because they want power
643
00:36:59,820 --> 00:37:02,100
but they're too stupid
to get employed anywhere else.
644
00:37:03,460 --> 00:37:06,220
So... shame on you...
645
00:37:07,700 --> 00:37:09,260
..for the way you treated me...
646
00:37:11,620 --> 00:37:14,660
..for letting Hayley down
so... catastrophically.
647
00:37:16,300 --> 00:37:19,460
And shame on you, DC Jake Collier...
648
00:37:21,060 --> 00:37:22,980
for becoming a police officer.
649
00:37:34,580 --> 00:37:36,260
And how sure did he seem?
650
00:37:36,460 --> 00:37:38,460
Pretty sure.
It was an instinctive reaction.
651
00:37:38,660 --> 00:37:40,900
I don't think he was recognising her
from the newspapers.
652
00:37:41,020 --> 00:37:43,180
So this definitively places her
in the house,
653
00:37:43,220 --> 00:37:46,140
possibly with all four men, before
the wives and kids arrived? Yeah.
654
00:37:46,300 --> 00:37:48,420
What was he like otherwise?
655
00:37:49,540 --> 00:37:50,660
Odd.
656
00:37:50,820 --> 00:37:51,980
An odd mixture.
657
00:37:53,060 --> 00:37:55,780
I mean, I guess you've got to ask,
why would he be telling me
658
00:37:55,980 --> 00:37:58,276
that he saw Hayley in the house
if he had something to hide?
659
00:37:58,300 --> 00:37:59,620
But...
660
00:37:59,820 --> 00:38:03,020
But when I asked him
if he'd give a DNA swab,
661
00:38:03,220 --> 00:38:05,820
he slightly looked like
he'd just shat himself.
662
00:38:08,420 --> 00:38:10,300
What's his background?
663
00:38:10,460 --> 00:38:11,900
Er...
664
00:38:13,460 --> 00:38:16,340
Lived and worked in Hong Kong
for 25 years.
665
00:38:16,540 --> 00:38:19,940
Only married for the first time
six years ago.
666
00:38:21,220 --> 00:38:23,620
No previous convictions,
at least not here.
667
00:38:23,780 --> 00:38:24,940
Ah...
668
00:38:25,140 --> 00:38:27,060
Drove down to Middenham
on a motorbike.
669
00:38:27,260 --> 00:38:30,940
Do we have a response
from James Hollis about his car yet?
670
00:38:31,140 --> 00:38:33,620
I'll chase that.
Er, how was your man?
671
00:38:35,180 --> 00:38:36,460
So, erm...
672
00:38:37,540 --> 00:38:39,260
He lives in a camper van.
673
00:38:39,420 --> 00:38:40,540
Oh.
674
00:38:40,740 --> 00:38:44,940
I'd say he's definitely had
some mental health issues,
675
00:38:44,980 --> 00:38:47,140
looks like he hasn't got
a pot to piss in.
676
00:38:47,180 --> 00:38:49,460
Except, in 1999,
677
00:38:49,620 --> 00:38:52,900
he was CEO of DDM Lowe,
678
00:38:53,060 --> 00:38:56,860
his own advertising agency.
679
00:38:57,060 --> 00:38:59,940
And this is a guy who got
a double first from Cambridge,
680
00:39:00,140 --> 00:39:03,300
was basically a bit of a genius
through his life,
681
00:39:03,500 --> 00:39:06,580
lived in a five million quid house
in Notting Hill.
682
00:39:07,660 --> 00:39:09,300
Wow. When did he leave?
683
00:39:09,460 --> 00:39:10,740
Early 2000.
684
00:39:11,820 --> 00:39:14,060
"To pursue new challenges."
685
00:39:14,260 --> 00:39:15,740
What, like,
how to live in a car park?
686
00:39:15,780 --> 00:39:17,780
PHONE JINGLE
687
00:39:19,620 --> 00:39:21,060
DCI Stuart.
688
00:39:21,220 --> 00:39:24,020
Hello, I'm just returning your call.
689
00:39:24,220 --> 00:39:27,140
It's Mel Hollis here.
I'm James Hollis' ex-wife.
690
00:39:27,340 --> 00:39:29,740
Ah, Mrs Hollis.
Yeah, thanks for returning my call.
691
00:39:32,780 --> 00:39:34,380
No, it wasn't a pleasant evening.
692
00:39:34,580 --> 00:39:36,740
What it was
was a train wreck.
693
00:39:36,780 --> 00:39:38,180
In what way?
694
00:39:39,540 --> 00:39:42,260
Look the meal was fine,
we ate, we cleared up,
695
00:39:42,460 --> 00:39:44,860
the kids were knackered,
it'd been a long day getting there,
696
00:39:45,020 --> 00:39:46,700
so they went to bed about 9:30.
697
00:39:46,900 --> 00:39:49,740
Which was good.
That they were in bed, I mean,
698
00:39:49,940 --> 00:39:54,660
because they didn't have to see
Chris go completely nuts,
699
00:39:54,860 --> 00:39:57,020
for want of a better word.
How do you mean?
700
00:39:57,060 --> 00:39:59,260
Out of the blue,
he just started ranting
701
00:39:59,460 --> 00:40:02,700
about his life,
his marriage, his friends...
702
00:40:04,020 --> 00:40:07,660
..how it all meant nothing,
how everything was an illusion.
703
00:40:07,860 --> 00:40:10,660
It was quiet terrifying.
Wow, yeah, I can imagine.
704
00:40:10,820 --> 00:40:13,300
And, so... what did people do?
705
00:40:13,500 --> 00:40:16,860
Well, I mean, we all tried
to calm him down, obviously,
706
00:40:17,020 --> 00:40:19,180
particularly Laura his wife.
707
00:40:19,380 --> 00:40:22,340
But he was flailing his arms
and shouting and...
708
00:40:23,620 --> 00:40:26,340
To be honest,
we were all quite relieved
709
00:40:26,540 --> 00:40:28,540
when he then just suddenly
walked out.
710
00:40:28,740 --> 00:40:30,100
Of the house?
Mm-hm.
711
00:40:30,300 --> 00:40:33,100
And went where?
I don't know.
712
00:40:34,980 --> 00:40:36,300
Had he been drinking?
713
00:40:36,460 --> 00:40:37,900
Well, he'd had a few.
714
00:40:38,100 --> 00:40:40,100
We'd all had a few.
It was New Year's Eve.
715
00:40:41,260 --> 00:40:42,420
Anything else?
716
00:40:44,300 --> 00:40:46,300
Someone might have bought some coke.
717
00:40:46,500 --> 00:40:48,220
I don't know,
maybe he'd had a bit of that.
718
00:40:50,580 --> 00:40:51,860
OK.
719
00:40:52,020 --> 00:40:53,300
So who was taking coke?
720
00:40:54,780 --> 00:40:56,940
Not me.
Not any of the women, actually.
721
00:40:56,980 --> 00:40:58,460
Tim Finch?
722
00:40:58,660 --> 00:41:01,060
Definitely not, no.
He never did that.
723
00:41:01,220 --> 00:41:04,460
Pete, no, he was more of a drinker.
724
00:41:04,620 --> 00:41:06,420
James... yes.
725
00:41:06,620 --> 00:41:09,980
In fact, I think it was him
that probably bought it.
726
00:41:10,140 --> 00:41:13,500
When Chris went out of the house,
727
00:41:13,700 --> 00:41:16,420
what time would that have been?
I don't know.
728
00:41:16,620 --> 00:41:19,660
Just after ten, I guess.
And did anyone go after him?
729
00:41:19,820 --> 00:41:22,180
Yeah, after a minute or two...
730
00:41:22,340 --> 00:41:24,740
..er, James and Tim.
731
00:41:24,940 --> 00:41:27,100
Did they catch up with him?
No.
732
00:41:27,140 --> 00:41:29,860
No, Chris came back on his own
about an hour and a half later.
733
00:41:30,020 --> 00:41:31,500
He was absolutely drenched.
734
00:41:31,700 --> 00:41:33,460
I mean, it was raining hard
at this point
735
00:41:33,660 --> 00:41:35,820
and his clothes
were covered with mud
736
00:41:35,860 --> 00:41:38,220
and he went straight upstairs
to bed.
737
00:41:38,420 --> 00:41:40,980
No explanation, no apology, nothing.
Right.
738
00:41:41,140 --> 00:41:42,500
Where was Pete Carr at this point?
739
00:41:42,700 --> 00:41:44,860
Pete had been out
since right after the meal,
740
00:41:45,060 --> 00:41:47,540
trying his luck at the pub.
Trying his luck?
741
00:41:47,700 --> 00:41:49,060
The ladies.
742
00:41:50,460 --> 00:41:52,100
He got back just after midnight.
743
00:41:52,300 --> 00:41:54,460
On his own?
Mm-hm.
744
00:41:54,500 --> 00:41:55,980
And pissed.
745
00:41:56,180 --> 00:41:58,940
And your husband and Dr Finch?
The same.
746
00:41:59,140 --> 00:42:01,900
No, they got back
just before midnight.
747
00:42:02,100 --> 00:42:04,100
Just in time for Auld Lang Syne,
bless.
748
00:42:04,260 --> 00:42:06,260
Were they separate or together?
749
00:42:08,420 --> 00:42:09,740
I can't remember.
750
00:42:11,420 --> 00:42:13,380
And what happened then?
751
00:42:13,580 --> 00:42:15,980
The guys went to bed,
the women stayed up
752
00:42:16,180 --> 00:42:18,340
and talked about
our car crash marriages.
753
00:42:18,380 --> 00:42:19,380
OK.
754
00:42:20,900 --> 00:42:23,580
This is really important, Ms Hollis,
so...
755
00:42:24,860 --> 00:42:26,860
..I want you to think
very carefully, please.
756
00:42:27,980 --> 00:42:32,620
Did you see anyone go out again
after that?
757
00:42:32,780 --> 00:42:33,820
No.
758
00:42:34,900 --> 00:42:36,420
No-one went out again after that.
759
00:42:41,060 --> 00:42:42,460
You sound very certain.
760
00:42:43,700 --> 00:42:46,500
Firstly, I sat up talking
to Laura and Derran
761
00:42:46,700 --> 00:42:49,700
till about three o'clock
in the morning, and then...
762
00:42:49,900 --> 00:42:52,780
I wasn't going to sleep with James
that night, so I slept on the sofa.
763
00:42:52,980 --> 00:42:55,580
Except, I didn't, really.
Sleep, I mean.
764
00:42:55,780 --> 00:42:58,020
So that meant I would have seen
if anyone had gone out.
765
00:42:58,180 --> 00:42:59,540
And they didn't.
766
00:43:02,780 --> 00:43:04,100
Right.
767
00:43:05,980 --> 00:43:07,220
Fuck.
768
00:43:07,420 --> 00:43:10,060
The last sighting of her was after
they were all back in the house.
769
00:43:12,500 --> 00:43:14,460
So she could be lying.
Yep.
770
00:43:14,660 --> 00:43:17,300
Or mistaken. Maybe she did sleep
and one of them came down
771
00:43:17,500 --> 00:43:19,300
at four or five or whatever
and then went out.
772
00:43:19,460 --> 00:43:22,340
Except, if one of them came down
at four or five,
773
00:43:22,540 --> 00:43:25,380
went out then and killed her,
where...
774
00:43:25,580 --> 00:43:28,420
..where was Hayley between leaving
the pub at 12:10 and four or five?
775
00:43:30,220 --> 00:43:32,380
No, that feels wrong.
Yeah, maybe.
776
00:43:32,420 --> 00:43:33,780
But not as wrong as all four men
777
00:43:33,980 --> 00:43:36,140
having clearly lied to us
through their teeth.
778
00:43:36,180 --> 00:43:37,620
There is that.
779
00:43:39,380 --> 00:43:40,780
I need a drink.
780
00:43:40,940 --> 00:43:42,620
There is that.
781
00:43:55,060 --> 00:43:57,220
SHE TYPES
782
00:43:57,380 --> 00:43:59,860
Yeah, it was about ten past,
783
00:44:00,020 --> 00:44:01,820
maybe quarter past midnight.
784
00:44:02,020 --> 00:44:04,980
Enough time to change, anyway.
For the party? Yeah.
785
00:44:05,140 --> 00:44:06,980
Cos she went as Madonna,
786
00:44:07,140 --> 00:44:09,260
the Desperately Seeking Susan one.
787
00:44:09,460 --> 00:44:11,620
You know, all the slap and the hair
and everything.
788
00:44:11,780 --> 00:44:14,340
It was an '80s theme, I think.
789
00:44:16,820 --> 00:44:18,380
Sorry, just a sec.
Sure.
790
00:44:26,060 --> 00:44:28,420
This is from Hayley's diary.
791
00:44:28,620 --> 00:44:32,820
"I hate the '80s, I hate
fancy dress, so am going as ME!!
792
00:44:32,860 --> 00:44:35,380
"They should be so lucky.
Lucky, lucky, lucky!!"
793
00:44:35,540 --> 00:44:36,620
Maybe she changed her mind.
794
00:44:38,380 --> 00:44:41,540
Were there any other female staff
going to the party
795
00:44:41,740 --> 00:44:44,100
who would have been the same age,
same build as Hayley?
796
00:44:48,020 --> 00:44:51,380
PHONE JINGLE
797
00:44:51,540 --> 00:44:52,900
Hey...
798
00:44:55,060 --> 00:44:56,580
Hey, Fran, what's up?
799
00:44:56,780 --> 00:44:59,220
There was another employee,
same build, same colouring,
800
00:44:59,380 --> 00:45:00,660
same hair as Hayley,
801
00:45:00,860 --> 00:45:03,180
who's just confirmed to me
that she went as Madonna
802
00:45:03,340 --> 00:45:05,020
and she left around 12:10.
803
00:45:05,220 --> 00:45:07,740
So you think the manager
saw her leaving, not Hayley?
804
00:45:07,940 --> 00:45:10,100
I think it has to be
a very strong possibility.
805
00:45:10,140 --> 00:45:13,020
Which means the last confirmed
sighting of Hayley was way earlier.
806
00:45:13,220 --> 00:45:16,380
At 11, after which she could
easily have bunked off work early.
807
00:45:16,540 --> 00:45:18,460
OK, this is brilliant work, Fran.
808
00:45:18,542 --> 00:45:20,291
Let's talk first thing tomorrow.
809
00:45:20,316 --> 00:45:22,082
Goodnight, boss.
You heard that?
810
00:45:22,121 --> 00:45:24,001
So she could actually
have left the pub earlier.
811
00:45:24,026 --> 00:45:25,306
At 11.
812
00:45:25,459 --> 00:45:28,794
Which means we now have four men,
variously pissed,
813
00:45:28,836 --> 00:45:31,116
drugged up
and possibly mentally unstable,
814
00:45:31,159 --> 00:45:32,919
out somewhere in Middenham,
815
00:45:33,540 --> 00:45:35,633
at exactly the same time as Hayley.
816
00:46:05,620 --> 00:46:08,500
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