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[eerie vocalizing]
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[soft foreboding music]
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[thunder crackling]
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[dark foreboding music]
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- [Warren] Hollywood:
deep, dark.
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That source of
infinite entertainment,
wonder and mystery.
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Home for the
beautiful, the ugly,
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the rich, the poor
and the weird.
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In the following film, you will experience individuals
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whose lives dwell beyond the boundaries of understanding
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and may appear unusual,
freaky and bizarre.
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Man is an animal of compassion and evolution.
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What we don't understand
we can learn from.
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What you're about to see is an eye-opening journey
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into the underbelly
of Hollywood.
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Porn stars, freakshows, transvestites and fire eaters
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exist among the rich and famous
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as an integral part of the entertainment industry.
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These are the underdogs, the unsung heroes of the business.
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Join our host Dark Infinity as we begin our journey
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at the California Institute for Abnormal Arts
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where Carl Crew gives a tour of many of the freaks
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and oddities that await you behind their alluring doors.
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Welcome to "Hollyweird."
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- My name's Carl Crew
and I am a writer,
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an actor, producer and
do a mean soft shoe
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and many, many things.
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I was a mortician.
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I had an antique store
in Haight-Ashbury.
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Basically I grew up in a
repertory theater group
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from a kid 'til I was like 20 for like 17 years.
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And I studied film and I decided to move to Hollywood.
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And I got down here.
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Six months later, I got my firstlead role in "Blood Diner."
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And I actually met
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one of the producers, Bill Osco
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who was famous for
such wonderful hits
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as "Alice in Wonderland: X," which was really R back then.
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And "Flesh Gordon".
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He was like 23 and he made like 23 million dollars
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like 50 years ago.
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I mean you know what
kinda money that is?
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He moved into the
Bee Gees mansion.
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You know, like wow.
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Anyway, so we started
makin' movies together.
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I did one more movie with
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Jackie Kong and Bill Osco.
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They were married.
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It was called "The
Under Achievers."
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Originally "Night School," but they had to change the name.
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But my costar Rick
Burkes, brilliant actor.
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Fantastic.
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He was "Blood Diner."
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We got two little roles
in "Under Achievers."
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And then I started
writing, producing
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and making my own
films with Bill Osco.
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"Gross Out," "Urban Legends," "Lunch with Larry."
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And we were talking
on the phone one night
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and he's going, "You know what?
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"You look exactly
like Jeffrey Dahmer."
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I'm like, "I'm gonna punch you."
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And then I go, "Huh."
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And then I literally
got on the computer
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and I found the police
interviews with Jeffrey
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and I wrote the script
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for "Jeffrey Dahmer:
The Secret Life."
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And we immediately got funding for that and we did it.
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We did it in secret.
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That's what I told
the trades, you know.
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I said, "We're shooting
this in secret."
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And my fax machine explodedwith 20,000 faxes in one month.
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Literally, there was a puff of smoke coming from it.
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If you ever wanna do something and get it out there,
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you tell people you're doing this part in secret
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for whatever reason andeveryone go out and talk to you.
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But that got a lotta press.
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It never was released
in the theaters though.
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It just went straight to video,
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but we had just a lotta,
lotta, lotta pressure.
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We did "Maury Povich" and we did "Milwaukee's Talking."
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I literally got interviewed
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at Jeffrey Dahmer's
apartment door
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and I reached out
and touched the door.
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Next day the papers, "Oh
yeah, that Carl Crew.
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"He made love to
Jeffrey Dahmer's door."
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I'm like, "Wow, this is
hilarious publicity."
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The director was pissed.
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He was like, "No,
that's terrible."
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I go, "Relax.
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"Publicity's publicity."
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Then when we did
"Milwaukee's Talking,"
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the family would
kind of, you know.
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Of course a movie's
gonna be made
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about one of the most
heinous serial killers.
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So like we settle them down.
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By the time we got
to "Maury Povich,"
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they had whipped
'em into a frenzy.
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So it was the "Barbecue Carl Crew Show." [chuckles]
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Which I'm a debater
and I loved it.
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But I got called Jeffrey
Dahmer number two
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you know, and all this stuff.
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Actually I have a
Facebook page Facebook.
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It's called "Jeffrey
Dahmer: The Secret Life"
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and it's about the film
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and the archived "Maury
Povich" is on there.
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If you want a cheap
thrill. [chuckles]
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But then I got
involved with making.
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Well I got involved
with Chris Miller.
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We did a bunch of films together, not lead roles.
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I've always had lead roles.
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But for a while I was
so busy with this club
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we've had for 25 years,
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California Institute
of Abnormal Arts.
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We're still here after 25 years.
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Freakshows, magic
shows, puppet shows.
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We have a museum.
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We're in the Ripley's
hardback book last year
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because I have three dead bodies from 100 years ago.
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I used to be a mortician.
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I lived in a mortuary for five years and I know the rules.
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Pre-1925, I don't need a permit.
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So I have a dead clown and two dead Chinese magicians.
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Yup.
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[Dark Infinity speaking faintly]
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I'm sorry? - Freakshow in St. Louis?
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- Say again?
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- [Dark Infinity] "Freakshow: Los Angeles" the book.
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- Oh, that was a
book that got ruined.
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This is the original book, okay?
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And it's 500 pages.
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It's full color and this
guy did a deal with me.
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He's like, "Yeah, we're gonna publish this book."
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And he put it down to 200 pages
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and he screwed it all
up and made blank pages
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so you could write notes
like what are you doing?
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And finally his
company went bankrupt
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and I got my rights back.
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It was ridiculous.
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I was furious when I saw it.
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But yeah, this is
literally about 18 years
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of all the press, all the publicity, the whole story.
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Every freakshow picture,
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every flyer ever
designed from 25 years.
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Hold on.
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I'll wait for this to go by.
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Oh, it's good.
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Anyway, yeah.
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So I did it on CreateSpace and we got like 300 copies
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and it cost me $39
a book to print.
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And we had to sell it
for like $45, you know?
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It's like a textbook.
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But I got the deal with Amazon.
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They go, "Oh yeah, we'll
give you some money
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"for every book."
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I go, "Really, how much?"
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Goes, "A penny."
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I'm like, "No."
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The club started here and we got some really amazing people
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attracted to their club.
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A friend of mine was a
producer and he goes,
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"Dude, I have to
show you something."
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And I said, "What?"
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He showed me this DVD of a thing
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called "Happy Turkey Day" with Shaye Saint John
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and it literally blew my mind.
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I didn't know what
I was lookin' at
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and I said, "I have
to meet this person.
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"Whoever these people are, I have to meet them."
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So he gave me Eric's number and I called him up.
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And we struck it off
and he came over here
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and he introduced me
to Shaye Saint John
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who was [exhales]
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an enigma.
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They were two separate
people, Eric and Shaye.
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I worked with them
both for 10 years.
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Shaye was a handicapped.
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Well she was in a train wreck.
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She was put into a
military hospital.
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And they have been doing all this MKUltra stuff there
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and they thought
they killed her.
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They did the most implantation they've ever done on anybody.
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There were cool
people in the hospital
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that snuck her out and
hid her in an art colony
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and that's where my
friend Eric met her.
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And so he would
bring her over here
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and we would give her some props and wigs and whatever
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and set her up with some.
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Very hard to talk to her.
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She talked like this,
[imitates Shaye].
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I mean it was like [sighs]
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and she wore a wig
mask over her face.
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When go into a wig store,
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the same face that's on all the wigs, that was her face.
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In other words, she
bought 100 of those
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'cause she was disfigured.
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I've never seen her face and I worked with her for 10 years.
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No one has ever saw her face.
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She was in a wheelchair.
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She had to have her
arms and legs amputated
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because of the lack of flow of blood or whatever.
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And she didn't want prosthetics,
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so she used mannequin
arms and legs.
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She was just a movie star.
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She thought she
was a movie star.
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It was like so bizarre.
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I was in horror and roaring with laughter for 10 years.
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Eventually my friend Eric drank himself to death.
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He just died.
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Yeah.
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And then everyone
said, "Oh, RIP Eric.
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"RIP Shaye," 'cause everyone thought he played Shaye.
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Well I waited three years
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and then I made a little tiny movie with Larry Wessel
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and it's called "Shaye Saint John: Trigger Happy"
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and it tells the real story.
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Shaye is still alive.
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She's in a witness
protection program.
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The people that snuck
her out of the hospital,
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they knew that Eric was dying
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and they made a deal
with him to help him.
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If he could do one
Shaye Saint John video
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making it look like
he played Shaye,
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so she could escape into a witness protection program.
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I mean this is 10 years.
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It's the weirdest
stuff I've ever.
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You could get it or you could order "Triggers" compilation
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on the Internet.
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And these are the early Shayes, we used to do 'em here
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and then Eric would
render his stuff.
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It would take weeks to do
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'cause it'd be back
in the day, you know?
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Like before 2000 or right around 2000, very primitive.
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Like you'd do like 10 minutes and render it for two weeks.
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You know, it's crazy.
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But he would come
here and drop them off
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and we would screen them here.
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We were the first people to show Shaye Saint John.
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And people would just walk out goin', "What did I just see?"
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So great.
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It added to the whole mystery of the institute.
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Before she left,
I talked to her.
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I said, "You know, if you ever just call me sometime
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"and make sure you
know, you're okay,
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"I wanna know you're okay."
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I said, "But when you
do, say this word."
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I said the word and
she said, "Look, man."
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That wasn't the word,
that's how she was.
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And 3 1/2 years later, I got a call from a restricted number
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and I heard, "Hello again."
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There's been other people that have tried to call
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and say, "Yeah, it's Shaye."
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"Okay, what's the word?"
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No one could say it.
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I heard it three
o'clock in the morning.
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I said, "You're okay," and she goes, "I'm okay."
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And that was it,
click and that was it.
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So I know she made it.
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I know she's out
there somewhere,
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but I just hope she comes back.
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I don't know how weird it's gonna be without Eric
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to do his brilliant editing on.
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But yeah, that was really an amazing part of my life.
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They wrote an article.
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They just came out
with a huge article.
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She got pressed all over the world: "Bizarre" magazine.
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"Girls and Corpses" interviewed her here in person
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and that was weird.
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She made a couple appearances here and sign stuff
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with her rubber hands.
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It was so bizarre.
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Well "Vice" magazine just came out with a huge article
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on Shaye Saint John and
they interviewed people.
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There was this woman
named Leonora Claire.
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Gorgeous, gorgeous, gorgeous chanteuse and an art critic.
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She's actually in
the news right now.
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She got stalkers and she
got legislation passed
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for stalking.
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It was really good.
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It's just that
she's on the news.
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But she used to come
and do these shows
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at Apocalipstick
with Kitten Natividad
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and they had Shaye show up.
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She signed stuff.
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She was chosen by the people
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that wanted to help Shaye escape as the person
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that would see a fake costume draped over her chair.
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So she'd say, "Eric is Shaye."
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So it was orchestrated that
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and I just recently
told her that.
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I never even told her that.
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So she was the one.
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So in the article
from "Vice" magazine,
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"Oh yeah, that's right."
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Then they interviewed me
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and I was like, "No, that's not it." [chuckles]
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Anyway it was just wonderful.
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It was wonderful to be involved
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with such electric
burst of creative energy
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and he was a maximalist artist.
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That's what I am.
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I'm a maximum.
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Why bother with being
anything else, you know?
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My great uncle was Jerry Crew.
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Jerry Crew was a logger.
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Along with my father
and my other uncle,
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Jerry Crew took the first plaster cast of Bigfoot
307
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in 1958 on Mount Shasta and literally changed the name
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from Sasquatch to Bigfoot with his discovery.
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He took it to the Humboldt Times
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and they took a picture
of him holding the cast.
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It went worldwide.
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This is 1958.
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Yeah.
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So in the
crypto-zoological world,
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all the people that
do all this stuff,
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they all know who Jerry Crew is.
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He's like the grandfather,
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even though Bigfoot went
back hundreds of years
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with sightings of wild men.
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But I've been doing research and writing a script
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about the life of Jerry Crew,
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interviewing everyone
who's left alive.
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Like I interviewed Peter Byrne.
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He's like 90 years old.
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He hunted the Yeti
in the Himalayas
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and he was hired by an amazing guy named Tom Slick
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from Texas who
was a millionaire.
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These people, I mean like they described Peter Byrne
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as the Don Quixote,
Indiana Jones.
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I mean this guy went out.
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I mean amazing books by this guy
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and I interviewed him few times.
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Amazing stuff I got outta him.
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So my other uncle who wasthere, my father was also there.
335
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He gave me 50 years of yellowed articles and cutouts
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of Bigfoot articles that I've been pourin' through
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and going through the scripts.
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It's like family history.
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It was amazing.
340
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It was amazing, I'm almost finished with it too.
341
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So yeah, that's what I've been working on lately.
342
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I did write the sequel
to "Blood Diner"
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called "Blood Dinner."
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I have about 10
scripts I finished.
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I'm really tryin'
to balance my time
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between the club which
takes up all my time
347
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and get back heavy
into more filmmaking.
348
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That's what I love to do.
349
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I just love to create
stuff, you know?
350
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So this club has always been just constant creating stuff
351
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and doing new stuff
and trying out stuff.
352
00:16:00,338 --> 00:16:04,204
And yeah, it's been a
very interesting road.
353
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Yeah.
354
00:16:05,516 --> 00:16:07,242
- [Dark Infinity] Where do you see the future of your club?
355
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- [laughs] I wanna
go full-heavy.
356
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I mean I'm an artist.
357
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You know, it's like
this is 25 years.
358
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I think that's enough, hey.
359
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I have no idea, I have no idea.
360
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You know, I know
very specifically
361
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I wanna start getting back into heavy filmmaking again
362
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and just whatever or wherever my muse takes me.
363
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[soft mystical music]
[singer vocalizing]
364
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- [Dark Infinity] My next stop was a visit to a classroom.
365
00:17:00,295 --> 00:17:02,607
But this isn't your
typical kind of class,
366
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it was an outdoor one at night.
367
00:17:04,954 --> 00:17:06,853
And they weren't
teaching math or physics
368
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but rather fire eating.
369
00:17:09,649 --> 00:17:11,616
Professional fire
eater Derrick Vermin
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teaches classes
on a weekly basis
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to those interested
in learning the craft.
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He's performed at
Knotfest and Lost Lands
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and worked alongside
at Dr. Phil's son.
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He had a few moments betweenlessons to sit down and tell us
375
00:17:23,801 --> 00:17:25,458
about what makes this a unique,
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magical and one-of-a-kind skill.
377
00:17:28,909 --> 00:17:31,464
- I've been a fire
performer since 2007
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performing with like poets, staff, fans, things like that.
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And I guess later on,
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it started getting
into more of like
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fire at circus performances,
382
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then fire eating was kinda introduced to things.
383
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It was introduced to my world.
384
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I just kinda like jumped
in there, got into it,
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00:17:51,622 --> 00:17:53,348
tried to figure out what it was.
386
00:17:53,382 --> 00:17:55,936
I knew some people in the circus world who were into it
387
00:17:55,971 --> 00:17:57,421
and they introduced me to it.
388
00:17:58,905 --> 00:18:01,080
I fell in love with the fire just doin' fire performance,
389
00:18:01,114 --> 00:18:03,185
but I fell in love
with fire again.
390
00:18:03,220 --> 00:18:06,602
Like over again even deeper once I got into fire eating.
391
00:18:06,637 --> 00:18:10,019
It's just a different way of handling the fire.
392
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It's what more people would call fire manipulation
393
00:18:13,057 --> 00:18:15,818
and it's just really
controlling it
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just with your mouth
and with the torches,
395
00:18:18,821 --> 00:18:20,961
getting really just
up-close with the fire.
396
00:18:24,482 --> 00:18:28,417
There's a breaking down
of certain fear barriers
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that you go through
398
00:18:29,970 --> 00:18:32,076
when you're learning to eat fire or breathe fire.
399
00:18:32,111 --> 00:18:34,078
And getting past those,
400
00:18:34,113 --> 00:18:37,254
just makes you feel so
different about it all.
401
00:18:37,288 --> 00:18:39,463
Yeah, so it becomes a passion,
402
00:18:39,497 --> 00:18:42,914
really like gets into
a passion right away.
403
00:18:42,949 --> 00:18:44,502
Well the classes I'm teaching.
404
00:18:44,537 --> 00:18:49,335
Well I know that fire eating has become a lot more popular
405
00:18:49,369 --> 00:18:50,957
in the past five years.
406
00:18:50,991 --> 00:18:53,097
Like me and a lot
of other people
407
00:18:53,132 --> 00:18:55,134
have been kind of
developing it more
408
00:18:55,168 --> 00:18:57,860
in the past five to 10 years
409
00:18:57,895 --> 00:19:01,657
than it has in its whole lifetime of it being done.
410
00:19:01,692 --> 00:19:04,073
Even hundreds of years ago, people were doin' fire eating.
411
00:19:04,108 --> 00:19:06,386
But the kinda stuff
we're doin' now,
412
00:19:06,421 --> 00:19:08,112
we started to like
raise the bar up.
413
00:19:08,147 --> 00:19:11,391
And now because of that, it's been being seen everywhere.
414
00:19:11,426 --> 00:19:13,324
A lotta people are
tryin' to get into it,
415
00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:16,879
but not everybody's learning the correct way.
416
00:19:16,914 --> 00:19:18,985
There's like a proper
way to go through it
417
00:19:19,019 --> 00:19:20,987
that makes it fun,
makes it safe,
418
00:19:21,021 --> 00:19:24,093
makes it healthy to where you're not gonna...
419
00:19:24,128 --> 00:19:26,372
There's lot less chance
of you burning yourself.
420
00:19:26,406 --> 00:19:29,823
And at the same time, it allows you to really expand
421
00:19:29,858 --> 00:19:31,584
on all the tricks
that there are.
422
00:19:34,103 --> 00:19:37,210
So I really wanna
make it accessible.
423
00:19:37,245 --> 00:19:39,799
Some people are still gonna go try it in their backyard
424
00:19:39,833 --> 00:19:41,387
and I don't want 'em to that.
425
00:19:41,421 --> 00:19:43,527
I wanna be at least out there
426
00:19:43,561 --> 00:19:45,184
so I could teach
'em the right way.
427
00:19:45,218 --> 00:19:46,702
They can expand on it from there
428
00:19:46,737 --> 00:19:48,946
with the other people they know that are fire eaters.
429
00:19:48,980 --> 00:19:52,294
But as long as they learn the proper techniques of it
430
00:19:52,329 --> 00:19:56,160
and safety, learn about thekinda fuels and stuff like that,
431
00:19:56,195 --> 00:19:58,542
then hopefully they're gonna grow in a good environment.
432
00:19:58,576 --> 00:20:02,131
In my hometown, I started my own kinda troupe there.
433
00:20:02,166 --> 00:20:05,963
We started doin' shows, birthday parties, events,
434
00:20:05,997 --> 00:20:09,898
fundraisers, then music festivals and things like that
435
00:20:09,932 --> 00:20:11,900
that were goin' on
around in my town.
436
00:20:11,934 --> 00:20:14,109
But then I started
getting these bookings
437
00:20:14,143 --> 00:20:17,285
for outside of it too
and that really started
438
00:20:17,319 --> 00:20:20,046
around the time
where I teamed up
439
00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:23,636
with "Dangerous D Shock
Show" to go to Knotfest.
440
00:20:23,670 --> 00:20:26,225
And I ended up doin'
that two years.
441
00:20:26,259 --> 00:20:28,503
I've done some other
shows like that too
442
00:20:28,537 --> 00:20:32,990
like Blackest of the Black and also Lost Lands
443
00:20:33,024 --> 00:20:34,578
which was out there in Ohio.
444
00:20:35,682 --> 00:20:38,340
And then even got
booked for a show doing
445
00:20:40,446 --> 00:20:43,828
Dr. Phil's son Jordan, his dirty-30 birthday party.
446
00:20:43,863 --> 00:20:45,727
I went and performed for that.
447
00:20:45,761 --> 00:20:48,592
And so like I've taken
the whole fire eating
448
00:20:48,626 --> 00:20:50,973
and breathing thing
to lotta different
449
00:20:52,251 --> 00:20:54,287
big music festivals
and private parties.
450
00:20:54,322 --> 00:20:56,910
And so that's what I've been doing with it, yeah.
451
00:20:56,945 --> 00:20:59,050
- [Dark Infinity] So what does the future hold for you then?
452
00:20:59,085 --> 00:21:00,569
- Oh, the future?
453
00:21:00,604 --> 00:21:03,123
You know, I would love to be able to either be part of
454
00:21:03,158 --> 00:21:05,712
or to start my own
kinda performance troupe
455
00:21:07,749 --> 00:21:08,715
where we really
push the boundaries
456
00:21:08,750 --> 00:21:11,373
of the artistic side of it all.
457
00:21:11,408 --> 00:21:13,168
I think that's my goal.
458
00:21:13,202 --> 00:21:14,928
I mean like goin' to
these festivals and
doin' these things,
459
00:21:14,963 --> 00:21:16,378
it feels more like
I'm out there.
460
00:21:16,413 --> 00:21:18,898
It like an ambiance, like just in the background
461
00:21:18,932 --> 00:21:20,244
kinda doin' these things.
462
00:21:20,279 --> 00:21:23,730
But like I really wanna
create like a showcase
463
00:21:23,765 --> 00:21:27,389
for displaying the
real art behind it.
464
00:21:27,424 --> 00:21:28,873
Like fire eating
and these things
465
00:21:28,908 --> 00:21:33,844
are kind of like half magic,half flow and half performance.
466
00:21:35,432 --> 00:21:37,434
It's already known that people can do fire eating,
467
00:21:37,468 --> 00:21:40,713
but I wanna show what kind of magical performance
468
00:21:40,747 --> 00:21:41,955
you can do with it.
469
00:21:41,990 --> 00:21:43,957
And I wanna be able to
create a venue for that
470
00:21:43,992 --> 00:21:46,028
or to be part of that.
471
00:21:46,063 --> 00:21:48,341
And then to see more
people involved in that
472
00:21:48,376 --> 00:21:50,343
and try to get more
people to connect to it,
473
00:21:50,378 --> 00:21:52,725
getting real just like
deep in the musicality
474
00:21:52,759 --> 00:21:56,522
of the fire art itself
and the performance.
475
00:21:56,556 --> 00:21:59,490
You know, it's just a
crazy thing to see that
476
00:22:01,389 --> 00:22:03,460
you're takin' this
element of fire.
477
00:22:04,702 --> 00:22:09,155
And it's already within
us to draw away from it
478
00:22:09,189 --> 00:22:11,399
and to not have it
anywhere near us
479
00:22:11,433 --> 00:22:13,608
and for it to just
exist how it is
480
00:22:14,712 --> 00:22:15,920
and for it to be something
481
00:22:15,955 --> 00:22:17,888
that we almost see as
kind of uncontrollable.
482
00:22:19,924 --> 00:22:24,895
But through fire eating and other fire manipulation arts,
483
00:22:24,929 --> 00:22:28,105
we're learning
the science of it,
484
00:22:29,969 --> 00:22:31,764
the nature on how it works
485
00:22:31,798 --> 00:22:34,456
and being able to
manipulate that.
486
00:22:34,491 --> 00:22:36,320
So some of the things
that we're doing
487
00:22:36,355 --> 00:22:37,908
where we're not just
eating the fire,
488
00:22:37,942 --> 00:22:39,392
not just putting
it in our mouth.
489
00:22:39,427 --> 00:22:42,361
But we're taking it and now it's burning the vapor
490
00:22:42,395 --> 00:22:45,743
and we're able to just let fire come out of our mouth.
491
00:22:45,778 --> 00:22:48,919
It's something that
when anybody sees that
492
00:22:48,953 --> 00:22:51,162
that hasn't seen it before.
493
00:22:51,197 --> 00:22:52,509
They're just like, "Wait, how is that happening?
494
00:22:52,543 --> 00:22:53,993
"How is that possible?"
495
00:22:55,166 --> 00:22:56,409
It's really just
the science of it
496
00:22:56,444 --> 00:22:58,584
and there's no real
magic trick to it.
497
00:22:58,618 --> 00:23:01,241
Lotta people talk about magic as there being a trick,
498
00:23:01,276 --> 00:23:02,691
some sorta deception behind it.
499
00:23:02,726 --> 00:23:05,936
But with fire eating,
there are no tricks.
500
00:23:05,970 --> 00:23:08,110
It just is literally
what we're doin'.
501
00:23:08,145 --> 00:23:09,318
You're seeing fire
come outta your mouth
502
00:23:09,353 --> 00:23:10,975
and it's not supposed
to be something
503
00:23:11,010 --> 00:23:13,046
that's supposed to be there.
504
00:23:13,081 --> 00:23:14,634
But we're able to
just control it
505
00:23:14,669 --> 00:23:16,878
and that becomes
the magic behind it.
506
00:23:16,912 --> 00:23:20,329
[rhythmic electro music]
507
00:24:05,202 --> 00:24:07,204
♪ Ready
508
00:24:40,271 --> 00:24:43,205
- I'm Derrick Vermin
and I eat fire.
509
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:44,759
[eerie laughing]
510
00:24:44,793 --> 00:24:47,382
- [Dark Infinity] In Hollywood, horror is hot.
511
00:24:47,416 --> 00:24:49,177
So we couldn't pass
up an opportunity
512
00:24:49,211 --> 00:24:51,110
to catch up with horror hostess
513
00:24:51,144 --> 00:24:53,802
Malvolia: the Queen of Screams.
514
00:24:56,564 --> 00:24:59,359
- Good evening, my victims.
515
00:24:59,394 --> 00:25:01,327
For those of you
who do not know me,
516
00:25:01,361 --> 00:25:04,295
I'm Malvolia: the
Queen of Screams.
517
00:25:04,330 --> 00:25:07,333
[thunder crackling]
518
00:25:08,507 --> 00:25:10,509
Hi everyone, my name
is Jennifer Nangle
519
00:25:10,543 --> 00:25:13,339
and I am the creator and actress
520
00:25:13,373 --> 00:25:16,169
of "Malvolia: Queen of Screams."
521
00:25:16,204 --> 00:25:19,241
To be honest with you,
522
00:25:19,276 --> 00:25:21,761
I never wanted to
be a horror hostess.
523
00:25:21,796 --> 00:25:24,557
This was never in the plans.
524
00:25:24,592 --> 00:25:27,595
Filmmaking was
never in the plans.
525
00:25:27,629 --> 00:25:32,634
Basically what happened was about almost four years ago,
526
00:25:33,980 --> 00:25:35,879
there was a film franchise that was released
527
00:25:35,913 --> 00:25:38,985
with a woman's name in the title
528
00:25:39,020 --> 00:25:43,921
and I had noticed that it had always had male directors.
529
00:25:46,406 --> 00:25:48,857
Then usually the
female lead was always
530
00:25:48,892 --> 00:25:51,273
like a victim of some sort,
531
00:25:51,308 --> 00:25:53,586
so I wanted to be a
part of this franchise
532
00:25:53,621 --> 00:25:55,588
and be a female director.
533
00:25:55,623 --> 00:25:57,348
Also have a female voice
534
00:25:57,383 --> 00:26:02,388
and maybe have a lead female badass you know, fight back.
535
00:26:03,803 --> 00:26:08,083
So I wrote "The Treatment" and I sent it off to the creator
536
00:26:08,946 --> 00:26:10,810
and he politely declined it.
537
00:26:10,845 --> 00:26:12,847
But one of the producers
who had read it
538
00:26:14,020 --> 00:26:16,782
really encouraged
me to pursue my idea
539
00:26:16,816 --> 00:26:18,956
'cause he thought that it was really interesting.
540
00:26:18,991 --> 00:26:21,545
So not being under
the film franchise
541
00:26:21,580 --> 00:26:23,720
and the restrictions of it,
542
00:26:23,754 --> 00:26:25,480
I knew I still wanted to keep
543
00:26:25,514 --> 00:26:28,621
that badass female
lead character.
544
00:26:28,656 --> 00:26:30,002
But I wanted to
go in a direction
545
00:26:30,036 --> 00:26:31,831
where I could talk
about a horror genre
546
00:26:31,866 --> 00:26:34,247
that wasn't being
talked about very much.
547
00:26:34,282 --> 00:26:39,287
So a couple months later, I went to Son of Monsterpalooza
548
00:26:40,668 --> 00:26:42,221
and that was the year that they were celebrating Elvira.
549
00:26:42,255 --> 00:26:46,294
And I was so amazed
550
00:26:46,328 --> 00:26:49,366
at her current popularity.
551
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,472
I mean she was famous
back in the 80s.
552
00:26:52,507 --> 00:26:54,751
I mean it's been several decades
553
00:26:54,785 --> 00:26:57,857
and yet there were
crazy amounts of people
554
00:26:57,892 --> 00:26:59,790
waiting in line for her,
555
00:26:59,825 --> 00:27:01,999
just to only have
two minutes with her.
556
00:27:02,034 --> 00:27:03,518
Just to say, "Hi, how are you?"
557
00:27:03,552 --> 00:27:06,038
Take a quick picture, get a signature and that was it.
558
00:27:06,072 --> 00:27:09,179
My mind was blown
over that situation.
559
00:27:09,213 --> 00:27:11,871
So I thought okay,
horror hosting.
560
00:27:11,906 --> 00:27:13,701
You know, nobody's
talking about it.
561
00:27:15,012 --> 00:27:16,255
That could definitely have
562
00:27:16,289 --> 00:27:18,844
obviously a strong
female character,
563
00:27:18,878 --> 00:27:22,468
so that's what I wanted to have my feature film be about.
564
00:27:22,502 --> 00:27:23,745
I stand corrected now.
565
00:27:23,780 --> 00:27:26,196
I understand that
there are still
566
00:27:26,230 --> 00:27:30,165
many, many horror hosts and hostesses across the nation,
567
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,617
if not worldwide,
still on public access,
568
00:27:33,652 --> 00:27:36,413
still hosting you know, films and stuff like that.
569
00:27:36,447 --> 00:27:38,484
But at the time, I had no idea.
570
00:27:39,450 --> 00:27:43,800
So I got to researching.
571
00:27:43,834 --> 00:27:47,079
I went down the
route of the original
572
00:27:47,113 --> 00:27:50,185
who I think is one of the original horror hostesses.
573
00:27:50,220 --> 00:27:52,567
I started researching Vampira.
574
00:27:52,601 --> 00:27:55,570
And I know that one of her icons
575
00:27:55,604 --> 00:27:58,055
or who she was
referencing off of
576
00:27:58,090 --> 00:28:01,162
was Morticia Addams
and the Addams Family.
577
00:28:01,196 --> 00:28:04,786
So I took a little bit ofVampira, little bit of Morticia,
578
00:28:04,821 --> 00:28:08,721
luckily found this
dress on Amazon Prime
579
00:28:08,756 --> 00:28:12,898
and got to tryin' to figure out
580
00:28:12,932 --> 00:28:14,831
what I wanted to do
with the character.
581
00:28:15,970 --> 00:28:19,007
So while I was writing
the feature film,
582
00:28:19,042 --> 00:28:23,253
I was super huge and a fan of "Blair Witch Project"
583
00:28:23,287 --> 00:28:27,533
and how they you know,
put their film out.
584
00:28:27,567 --> 00:28:29,155
They made it that it was real.
585
00:28:29,190 --> 00:28:31,054
And so I kinda wanted
to go that route
586
00:28:31,088 --> 00:28:33,470
and make this character real.
587
00:28:33,504 --> 00:28:36,715
I also thought that if
I had a stable fan base
588
00:28:36,749 --> 00:28:39,510
when I was done with
the feature film,
589
00:28:39,545 --> 00:28:40,753
I would already
have that fan base.
590
00:28:40,788 --> 00:28:42,030
I would already
have that numbers
591
00:28:42,065 --> 00:28:44,067
and it would be easier
for distribution.
592
00:28:45,516 --> 00:28:50,004
So my boyfriend and I, we came up with some press pictures.
593
00:28:51,591 --> 00:28:53,559
I reached out to
some horror bloggers.
594
00:28:53,593 --> 00:28:57,183
And on January 1st of 2017,
595
00:28:57,218 --> 00:29:00,152
I released the iconic picture where my hands are up
596
00:29:00,186 --> 00:29:02,982
and we have the teal-green background with the curtains.
597
00:29:05,813 --> 00:29:07,435
People went crazy. [chuckles]
598
00:29:07,469 --> 00:29:09,299
They went crazy for her.
599
00:29:09,333 --> 00:29:10,783
They didn't know
anything about her.
600
00:29:10,818 --> 00:29:13,268
I just denounced her name and the Queen of Screams
601
00:29:13,303 --> 00:29:15,581
which is a play on
of "Scream Queen."
602
00:29:17,065 --> 00:29:18,687
People were like,
"Wow, she's solid.
603
00:29:18,722 --> 00:29:20,482
"She's strong."
604
00:29:20,517 --> 00:29:21,863
And so then I realized
605
00:29:21,898 --> 00:29:23,658
I really had to get cracking on this web series
606
00:29:23,692 --> 00:29:26,178
to make her real, so we could do the feature film.
607
00:29:27,869 --> 00:29:30,285
But what happened was the more episodes I was putting out
608
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,356
as the web series on you know,
609
00:29:32,391 --> 00:29:34,289
the easiest platform
you can on YouTube
610
00:29:34,324 --> 00:29:37,741
'cause you already have an audience built right there,
611
00:29:37,776 --> 00:29:39,260
people just couldn't get enough.
612
00:29:39,294 --> 00:29:41,952
They just wanted more
and more and more.
613
00:29:41,987 --> 00:29:43,298
And so I realized you know,
614
00:29:43,333 --> 00:29:45,749
I couldn't kill her
off in a feature film.
615
00:29:45,784 --> 00:29:47,406
I had to keep going with this.
616
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,512
So here I am [chuckles]
617
00:29:50,547 --> 00:29:55,000
on the verge of possibly
moving into season four
618
00:29:55,034 --> 00:29:59,073
and I'm currently writing an "Origins" feature film script.
619
00:29:59,107 --> 00:30:00,971
Basically when we were
doing the web series
620
00:30:01,006 --> 00:30:03,732
which was the first time that I was doing the hosting,
621
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:06,839
we film in my living room.
622
00:30:06,874 --> 00:30:09,497
So here I was at
home, we put up a set.
623
00:30:09,531 --> 00:30:11,844
We used the curtains.
624
00:30:11,879 --> 00:30:13,121
A friend of mine,
625
00:30:13,156 --> 00:30:17,229
he donated his short
film that I could host.
626
00:30:17,263 --> 00:30:20,094
And one of the
producers at the time,
627
00:30:20,128 --> 00:30:22,821
he wrote the script
for the first episode.
628
00:30:24,236 --> 00:30:27,895
And I was not
necessarily nervous
629
00:30:27,929 --> 00:30:29,966
because I was
working with friends.
630
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,865
But the dialog that we
first started out with
631
00:30:32,900 --> 00:30:34,246
was very intimidating
632
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,213
and it was really difficult for me to memorize.
633
00:30:36,248 --> 00:30:40,321
So I just wanted to make sure that I got all the words out
634
00:30:40,355 --> 00:30:44,118
properly and easily, just flowing off the tongue.
635
00:30:45,567 --> 00:30:50,331
And so I believe we shot two or three episodes at one time.
636
00:30:52,574 --> 00:30:54,818
So yeah and it's on YouTube.
637
00:30:54,853 --> 00:30:56,544
First episode of season one,
638
00:30:57,786 --> 00:31:00,479
so that was my first
hosting experience.
639
00:31:01,376 --> 00:31:03,516
So some of the projects that
640
00:31:05,380 --> 00:31:07,727
I have been involved in
641
00:31:09,108 --> 00:31:13,872
as Malvolia: the Queen ofScreams is 1031 and 1031 part 2.
642
00:31:15,287 --> 00:31:20,188
Both of those are available through Scream Team Releasing.
643
00:31:21,638 --> 00:31:24,779
Basically I just host in the beginning and at the end.
644
00:31:24,813 --> 00:31:29,473
I also did host "Theater
of the Deranged Part 3"
645
00:31:29,508 --> 00:31:32,131
which is available on Troma Now.
646
00:31:32,166 --> 00:31:35,238
I obviously have my
own YouTube channel.
647
00:31:35,272 --> 00:31:39,207
Youtube.com/c/malvoliathequeeno.
648
00:31:40,657 --> 00:31:42,935
I have three seasons on there.
649
00:31:42,970 --> 00:31:46,939
There's a mixture of hosting independent horror short films
650
00:31:46,974 --> 00:31:51,219
and there's also skits that we do of the character.
651
00:31:51,254 --> 00:31:54,982
Because again, acting
is my base and my love.
652
00:31:56,466 --> 00:31:59,987
And also other projects that I have out right now
653
00:32:00,021 --> 00:32:03,852
is Dustin Ferguson's
"The Last Roommate."
654
00:32:03,887 --> 00:32:06,648
It's kind of like
"Single White Female"
655
00:32:07,856 --> 00:32:11,515
meets really creepy
[chuckles] characters.
656
00:32:14,001 --> 00:32:16,244
And so that was a
huge experience.
657
00:32:16,279 --> 00:32:20,214
I know starting out 2020,
658
00:32:20,248 --> 00:32:23,493
I wanted to have
a challenging role
659
00:32:23,527 --> 00:32:25,598
that would take me
outta my comfort zone
660
00:32:25,633 --> 00:32:30,638
and maybe people might've not seen me in that light.
661
00:32:31,777 --> 00:32:33,399
And let me tell you,
"The Last Roommate" hit
662
00:32:33,434 --> 00:32:38,439
every single one of those requests that I had,
663
00:32:39,854 --> 00:32:42,684
so I'm done with 2020 with all the challenges. [chuckles]
664
00:32:42,719 --> 00:32:47,724
So any advice that I can give anybody that wants to either
665
00:32:49,553 --> 00:32:50,830
horror host
666
00:32:50,865 --> 00:32:54,973
or get into filmmaking
is just do it.
667
00:32:56,181 --> 00:32:59,667
You know, be creative,
think outside the box,
668
00:32:59,701 --> 00:33:02,635
pick up that camera
and just do it.
669
00:33:03,705 --> 00:33:05,673
A lotta people never get started
670
00:33:05,707 --> 00:33:08,400
and that's because
of a lotta fear,
671
00:33:08,434 --> 00:33:12,576
fear of failure or fear of success, whatever it is.
672
00:33:12,611 --> 00:33:14,923
That's what always holds
a lotta people back.
673
00:33:14,958 --> 00:33:17,167
There really is no
excuse not to do
674
00:33:17,202 --> 00:33:18,824
what you wanna do nowadays.
675
00:33:18,858 --> 00:33:22,172
I mean we all have you know, cameras on our phones.
676
00:33:22,207 --> 00:33:24,381
We all have DSLRs.
677
00:33:24,416 --> 00:33:25,900
I mean you know,
678
00:33:25,934 --> 00:33:30,077
anything that seems to be a device has a camera on it.
679
00:33:30,111 --> 00:33:34,460
So there's no reason
not to pick it up
680
00:33:34,495 --> 00:33:39,500
and you know, just be
creative and experiment.
681
00:33:41,364 --> 00:33:43,055
Not everything's
gonna be perfect.
682
00:33:43,090 --> 00:33:46,231
Not everything is gonna go the way that you want it to go
683
00:33:46,265 --> 00:33:48,681
and sometimes those are
blessing in disguises.
684
00:33:48,716 --> 00:33:51,719
You know, you can do
so much pre-production
685
00:33:51,753 --> 00:33:54,377
and hope that
everything is gonna fit
686
00:33:54,411 --> 00:33:56,206
the way that it needs to fit.
687
00:33:56,241 --> 00:33:59,278
But when you get on set youknow, you might run out of time.
688
00:33:59,313 --> 00:34:02,626
You know, this one setup
might've not worked
689
00:34:02,661 --> 00:34:04,663
at this one location
that you had.
690
00:34:04,697 --> 00:34:06,147
So you gotta think
outside the box
691
00:34:06,182 --> 00:34:08,839
and just go with what you have and what you know.
692
00:34:08,874 --> 00:34:12,360
And then usually everything always works out for the best.
693
00:34:12,395 --> 00:34:16,813
So stay positive, stay hopeful and then just do it.
694
00:34:17,779 --> 00:34:19,022
- [Dark Infinity] In the 1980s,
695
00:34:19,057 --> 00:34:20,886
breakdancing was all
the rage in Florida
696
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:22,025
and Southern California.
697
00:34:22,060 --> 00:34:23,199
It was a popular style
698
00:34:23,233 --> 00:34:25,063
that would soon spread
across the country
699
00:34:25,097 --> 00:34:28,204
thanks to the nationwide successof movies like "Breakin'."
700
00:34:29,584 --> 00:34:31,207
One of the original pioneers of the genre is a man
701
00:34:31,241 --> 00:34:34,175
who goes by the name
The Egyptian Lover.
702
00:34:34,210 --> 00:34:36,798
He's released breakdance and electro music consistently
703
00:34:36,833 --> 00:34:38,490
since he took the scene by storm
704
00:34:38,524 --> 00:34:41,458
back in 1982 in
Uncle Jamm's Army.
705
00:34:42,563 --> 00:34:44,461
I've had the pleasure of working with him in the past
706
00:34:44,496 --> 00:34:47,844
on a music video I directed for his 2014 single
707
00:34:47,878 --> 00:34:50,329
"Freaky Deaky Machine."
708
00:34:50,364 --> 00:34:53,263
Today, he's pairing
his new album 1986
709
00:34:53,298 --> 00:34:55,852
and we were able to catch up with him outside the studio
710
00:34:55,886 --> 00:34:59,407
for an intimate discussionabout his very prolific career.
711
00:34:59,442 --> 00:35:01,133
- Think my older brother
and my older sister
712
00:35:01,168 --> 00:35:03,549
inspired me to make music
713
00:35:03,584 --> 00:35:05,206
'cause they were always
listenin' to music.
714
00:35:05,241 --> 00:35:06,242
They loved music.
715
00:35:07,519 --> 00:35:09,521
I remember my sister
goin' to a club
716
00:35:09,555 --> 00:35:12,420
one time comin' home sayin', "We heard this record,
717
00:35:12,455 --> 00:35:13,628
"but it was a long version
718
00:35:13,663 --> 00:35:18,046
"of a sheet song called
"Dance Dance Dance."
719
00:35:19,462 --> 00:35:21,809
She went out and bought it the next day and played it.
720
00:35:21,843 --> 00:35:24,950
I'm like, "Wow, I wanna
be in that club life."
721
00:35:24,984 --> 00:35:28,022
Then I saw a movie called "Thank God It's Friday."
722
00:35:29,196 --> 00:35:32,026
The deejay was in the
movie was just so cool.
723
00:35:32,060 --> 00:35:34,339
It was like the prettiest girl that came in the club.
724
00:35:34,373 --> 00:35:36,479
It was like the other
guy was bettin' him.
725
00:35:36,513 --> 00:35:37,721
"Betcha can't get her."
726
00:35:37,756 --> 00:35:39,309
Blah, blah blah and
he was the deejay.
727
00:35:39,344 --> 00:35:40,552
Of course the deejay
get all the girls.
728
00:35:40,586 --> 00:35:43,658
I'm like, "I'm gonna be
a deejay." [chuckles]
729
00:35:43,693 --> 00:35:44,935
So I wanted to be a deejay,
730
00:35:44,970 --> 00:35:47,731
but I didn't know
how to make music.
731
00:35:48,905 --> 00:35:51,528
But I knew what records
to play at the party.
732
00:35:51,563 --> 00:35:54,980
So by being a deejay, I knew what records to play,
733
00:35:55,014 --> 00:35:58,604
what breakdowns to play and what got the party hot.
734
00:35:58,639 --> 00:36:03,644
But my younger brother X-fion played music and wrote music.
735
00:36:04,783 --> 00:36:06,543
He was a saxophone player and he used to write music.
736
00:36:07,544 --> 00:36:09,028
I was really impressed.
737
00:36:09,063 --> 00:36:13,930
And he saw me listen' to "Mary Jane" by Rick James one day.
738
00:36:15,103 --> 00:36:16,243
He said, "That's
a nice bass line."
739
00:36:16,277 --> 00:36:17,520
And I'm like, "What
are you talkin' about?"
740
00:36:17,554 --> 00:36:18,831
He said, "You hear
the bass line?"
741
00:36:18,866 --> 00:36:20,833
I'm like, "Listen to
the words, Mary Jane."
742
00:36:20,868 --> 00:36:24,458
He said, "Start it over and only listen to the bass line."
743
00:36:24,492 --> 00:36:28,255
So I started it over, only listened to the bass line
744
00:36:28,289 --> 00:36:31,223
and I was like, "Wow, that's a nice bass line."
745
00:36:31,258 --> 00:36:33,467
He said, "Start it over again, only listen to the strings."
746
00:36:33,501 --> 00:36:36,090
So I started it over again and only listened to the strings
747
00:36:36,124 --> 00:36:38,610
and the song just
came alive to me.
748
00:36:38,644 --> 00:36:39,887
He said, "Keep startin' it over
749
00:36:39,921 --> 00:36:40,819
"and every time you start over,
750
00:36:40,853 --> 00:36:41,578
"listen to somethin' different."
751
00:36:41,613 --> 00:36:42,752
So the next time
I start it over,
752
00:36:42,786 --> 00:36:44,236
I went and listened to the drums
753
00:36:44,271 --> 00:36:46,169
and I heard different things with the drums and the feels.
754
00:36:46,204 --> 00:36:46,721
And I'm like.
755
00:36:48,102 --> 00:36:51,933
So I broke the whole song apart piece-by-piece
756
00:36:51,968 --> 00:36:54,729
by listenin' to it over and over again, every part.
757
00:36:55,868 --> 00:36:57,594
And that when I
went to the studio,
758
00:36:57,629 --> 00:37:01,011
it taught me how to put together a song part-by-part
759
00:37:01,046 --> 00:37:03,359
by my younger brother teaching me how to listen to a song.
760
00:37:03,393 --> 00:37:06,431
So actually I owe my whole career to my younger brother.
761
00:37:07,397 --> 00:37:08,536
Thanks, little brother.
762
00:37:09,641 --> 00:37:12,575
The name Egyptian Lover,
763
00:37:12,609 --> 00:37:15,716
the Egyptian part
came from King Tut
764
00:37:15,750 --> 00:37:18,236
who was a young king
who ran his own empire.
765
00:37:18,270 --> 00:37:20,859
I wanna be like a young man who had his own business
766
00:37:20,893 --> 00:37:22,826
and run my own empire.
767
00:37:22,861 --> 00:37:25,173
And the lover came from a 20.
768
00:37:27,037 --> 00:37:31,421
Let's see, silent filmmaker.
769
00:37:31,456 --> 00:37:33,561
Think it was from the
1920s, I'm not sure.
770
00:37:35,736 --> 00:37:37,151
His name was Rudolf Valentino
771
00:37:37,185 --> 00:37:38,980
and I saw one of his movies called "The Sheik."
772
00:37:39,015 --> 00:37:40,603
When they put the
lights on his eyes
773
00:37:40,637 --> 00:37:42,605
and he looked at the women, he was just like the lover.
774
00:37:42,639 --> 00:37:46,712
I was like, "Wow, I would love to be somethin' like that."
775
00:37:46,747 --> 00:37:49,405
So I got King Tut and Rudolf Valentino together.
776
00:37:49,439 --> 00:37:52,131
Egyptian Lover, that this is a man who's also a lover
777
00:37:53,271 --> 00:37:54,686
and that's where
the name came from.
778
00:37:54,720 --> 00:37:56,826
I think the best memories are the very beginning
779
00:37:56,860 --> 00:38:00,519
when I was with Uncle
Jamm's Army back in '83.
780
00:38:02,072 --> 00:38:04,282
We used to get
parties just deejays
781
00:38:04,316 --> 00:38:07,043
givin' parties at
the LA Sports Arena
782
00:38:07,077 --> 00:38:08,907
with 10,000 party people.
783
00:38:08,941 --> 00:38:11,219
And it was just unbelievable, all the speakers.
784
00:38:11,254 --> 00:38:15,085
We had a couple hundred survey speakers just bumpin'.
785
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:16,363
And the biggest highlight
786
00:38:16,397 --> 00:38:18,813
is when I brought
my 808 to the first.
787
00:38:18,848 --> 00:38:22,196
Actually to the last Uncle Jamm's Army party we gave,
788
00:38:22,230 --> 00:38:23,991
I brought the 808 drum machine
789
00:38:24,025 --> 00:38:27,788
and nobody knew what a drum machine was back in '83.
790
00:38:27,822 --> 00:38:30,722
So I was playin' "Planet Rock" with my own breakdown.
791
00:38:30,756 --> 00:38:32,655
I turned the volume
down on "Planet Rock"
792
00:38:32,689 --> 00:38:36,141
and played the 808 drum machineand everybody kept dancin'.
793
00:38:36,175 --> 00:38:38,730
So I was like I got 'em.
794
00:38:38,764 --> 00:38:40,559
They're dancin'
to a drum machine.
795
00:38:40,594 --> 00:38:45,046
Then I turned the hi-hats up, then I turned the cowbell up.
796
00:38:45,081 --> 00:38:46,669
Then the room shot up.
797
00:38:46,703 --> 00:38:49,706
Now they're just dancin' to nothin' but a drum machine.
798
00:38:49,741 --> 00:38:52,364
They didn't stop dancin', just kept dancin'.
799
00:38:52,399 --> 00:38:53,572
So then I was kinda nervous.
800
00:38:53,607 --> 00:38:55,781
Okay, I'm gonna change the beat.
801
00:38:55,816 --> 00:38:57,058
Then I changed the beat,
802
00:38:57,093 --> 00:38:58,405
so they want boom,
boom, boom, boom.
803
00:38:58,439 --> 00:38:59,682
Just want [imitates
rhythmic drums],
804
00:39:03,548 --> 00:39:04,756
so it was a little
different beat.
805
00:39:04,790 --> 00:39:07,172
I changed the beat
and they kept dancin'.
806
00:39:07,206 --> 00:39:08,380
I was nervous as hell,
807
00:39:08,415 --> 00:39:10,624
like I hope they dance
to this drum machine
808
00:39:10,658 --> 00:39:12,108
and they kept dancin'.
809
00:39:12,142 --> 00:39:14,352
And I heard one slut scream up, "What song is that?"
810
00:39:14,386 --> 00:39:16,492
As soon as he said it
back, I said, "I got 'em
811
00:39:16,526 --> 00:39:18,425
"if he's not playin' records."
812
00:39:18,459 --> 00:39:20,081
So then I started breakin' the beat down 808,
813
00:39:20,116 --> 00:39:22,394
turnin' the toms up [imitates rhythmic drums].
814
00:39:24,292 --> 00:39:25,708
Turnin' to the cowbell.
815
00:39:25,742 --> 00:39:26,950
Doin' different cowbell rhythms[imitates rhythmic cowbell].
816
00:39:30,989 --> 00:39:32,749
You know, just goin'
crazy with 808.
817
00:39:32,784 --> 00:39:35,027
Turnin' the bass up a little bit from boom, boom
818
00:39:35,062 --> 00:39:36,166
to the [imitates
rhythmic booming].
819
00:39:37,340 --> 00:39:38,514
And the crowd's
just goin' crazy.
820
00:39:38,548 --> 00:39:40,136
They kept sayin', it's
hard to change the beat.
821
00:39:40,170 --> 00:39:41,689
"Man, what songs
are you playin'?
822
00:39:41,724 --> 00:39:42,518
"What songs are you playin'?
823
00:39:42,552 --> 00:39:43,381
"C'mon, man.
824
00:39:43,415 --> 00:39:44,554
"Tell us, tell us."
825
00:39:44,589 --> 00:39:46,625
So then the owner of Uncle Jamm's Army ran up on stage
826
00:39:46,660 --> 00:39:48,834
said, "Man, what
songs are those?
827
00:39:48,869 --> 00:39:50,388
"Those are hot."
828
00:39:50,422 --> 00:39:51,596
I said, "It's the drum machine."
829
00:39:51,630 --> 00:39:52,804
He said, "What?"
830
00:39:52,838 --> 00:39:53,874
I said, "It's this
drum machine."
831
00:39:53,908 --> 00:39:55,082
He looked at it and he's like,
832
00:39:55,116 --> 00:39:56,532
"You tellin' me you
brought a drum machine?"
833
00:39:56,566 --> 00:39:57,464
I'm like, "What?
834
00:39:57,498 --> 00:39:58,741
"It sounds just like a record."
835
00:39:58,775 --> 00:39:59,983
He said, "We need
to make a record."
836
00:40:00,018 --> 00:40:01,433
So we went to the studio
837
00:40:01,468 --> 00:40:05,886
and we met the big star playin'at the club, at the party.
838
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,336
"Yes, Yes, Yes" when we made a new song called [indistinct],
839
00:40:08,371 --> 00:40:11,236
put that out and that was, man.
840
00:40:11,270 --> 00:40:12,962
That's fortunately in a show
841
00:40:12,996 --> 00:40:16,068
when the drum machine personified the hybrid model.
842
00:40:16,103 --> 00:40:17,587
The next project I'm workin' on.
843
00:40:17,622 --> 00:40:19,900
Workin' on two
projects right now.
844
00:40:19,934 --> 00:40:22,730
Pyramix Volume 2,
which I'm doin'
845
00:40:22,765 --> 00:40:24,491
a lotta remixes from old songs
846
00:40:24,525 --> 00:40:27,597
like "Girls" and "You're So Fine" and "Egypt Egypt."
847
00:40:27,632 --> 00:40:29,806
Doin' new mixes of the old songs
848
00:40:29,841 --> 00:40:32,153
and also adding some new songs
849
00:40:32,188 --> 00:40:33,707
that didn't make 1986.
850
00:40:33,741 --> 00:40:35,467
I mean this song that made 1986
851
00:40:35,502 --> 00:40:37,642
which is another
project I'm workin' on.
852
00:40:37,676 --> 00:40:41,162
I did 1984, I did 1985 and now I'm workin' on 1986
853
00:40:42,336 --> 00:40:45,443
which'll probably be
out at the end of 2020
854
00:40:46,996 --> 00:40:48,618
or by Valentine Day 2021.
855
00:40:48,653 --> 00:40:53,140
Pyramix will probably
come out early 2020.
856
00:40:53,174 --> 00:40:55,660
Man, if you haven't
heard Pyramix #1,
857
00:40:56,799 --> 00:40:58,041
make sure you listen to that.
858
00:40:58,076 --> 00:41:00,596
Then Pyramix 2 will
be just like that,
859
00:41:00,630 --> 00:41:04,254
but probably two hours
of music nonstop.
860
00:41:04,289 --> 00:41:06,118
So I don't know if I'm gonna do a vinyl on that,
861
00:41:06,153 --> 00:41:07,085
but we're thinkin' about it.
862
00:41:07,119 --> 00:41:09,156
Maybe some 12 inches from that.
863
00:41:09,190 --> 00:41:12,573
But you'll definitely see a two hour nonstop mixtape
864
00:41:12,608 --> 00:41:14,575
from the Egyptian
Lover called Pyramix 2,
865
00:41:14,610 --> 00:41:16,508
so make sure you check that out.
866
00:41:16,543 --> 00:41:19,511
And to my fans: Man, thank you for all around the world
867
00:41:19,546 --> 00:41:22,272
just comin' to the
parties, the festivals
868
00:41:22,307 --> 00:41:24,240
and just showin' your support.
869
00:41:24,274 --> 00:41:26,794
'Cause all the energy you give me, I give it right back.
870
00:41:26,829 --> 00:41:28,727
Soon as I go back to the hotel,
871
00:41:28,762 --> 00:41:30,488
I'm inspired to
write more music.
872
00:41:30,522 --> 00:41:31,834
It's just a vicious circle,
873
00:41:33,732 --> 00:41:34,871
just me gettin' the
energy from you,
874
00:41:34,906 --> 00:41:37,011
you givin' it back to me and me givin' it back to you
875
00:41:37,046 --> 00:41:39,945
and you givin' it back
to me and I love it.
876
00:41:39,980 --> 00:41:41,119
Thank you.
877
00:41:41,153 --> 00:41:42,051
- This shit ain't over.
878
00:41:42,085 --> 00:41:43,259
This shit ain't over, y'all.
879
00:41:43,293 --> 00:41:46,642
Put your motherfuckin'
hands up one time.
880
00:41:46,676 --> 00:41:47,677
Yeah.
881
00:41:47,712 --> 00:41:50,542
[rhythmic hip-hop music]
882
00:41:50,577 --> 00:41:55,098
Please start it like you do in the early stages, 1983.
883
00:41:56,962 --> 00:42:00,310
We make music that is
satisfying to the soul.
884
00:42:00,345 --> 00:42:01,898
That shit got right here.
885
00:42:01,933 --> 00:42:03,590
Listen to this shit.
886
00:42:03,624 --> 00:42:04,832
Listen, listen.
887
00:42:06,006 --> 00:42:07,110
Here we go.
888
00:42:07,145 --> 00:42:10,528
[mystical hip-hop music]
889
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,165
♪ You're so fine
890
00:42:27,199 --> 00:42:28,304
- Then again.
891
00:42:30,755 --> 00:42:31,721
- We love you.
892
00:42:31,756 --> 00:42:32,722
- Thank y'all.
893
00:42:32,757 --> 00:42:33,827
- Goodnight.
894
00:42:33,861 --> 00:42:35,000
- [Dark Infinity] Our next stop on this journey
895
00:42:35,035 --> 00:42:36,588
through Hollyweird
896
00:42:36,623 --> 00:42:39,004
takes us to the home
of famed adult actress
897
00:42:39,039 --> 00:42:41,420
and webcam model Alana Evans.
898
00:42:42,801 --> 00:42:45,114
Known for her work in the adult field most of her life,
899
00:42:45,148 --> 00:42:47,461
she's additionally sang
for the Lords of Acid
900
00:42:47,495 --> 00:42:51,085
and recently began acting in mainstream horror films.
901
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,536
Tonight, she discusses
her role as an advocate
902
00:42:53,571 --> 00:42:56,504
and the positive change shehopes to bring to the industry.
903
00:42:57,678 --> 00:43:00,198
- Hi, I'm Alana Evans.
904
00:43:00,232 --> 00:43:05,237
I am a porn star turned
webcammer. [chuckles]
905
00:43:06,445 --> 00:43:08,240
I've been in the adult
industry since 1998,
906
00:43:10,553 --> 00:43:13,142
always did films.
907
00:43:13,176 --> 00:43:14,488
I've been a big gamer.
908
00:43:14,522 --> 00:43:17,733
So I found ways to incorporate different aspects
909
00:43:17,767 --> 00:43:21,875
of my real life into my career.
910
00:43:21,909 --> 00:43:25,361
You know, have fun while you'remaking your money, right?
911
00:43:25,395 --> 00:43:30,400
But as technology changes, porn has changed so, so much.
912
00:43:33,783 --> 00:43:36,579
The people are different, the sets are different.
913
00:43:36,614 --> 00:43:41,066
The type of content that they're filming is different.
914
00:43:41,101 --> 00:43:42,447
It's a little bit more violent.
915
00:43:42,481 --> 00:43:43,793
It's more aggressive.
916
00:43:45,001 --> 00:43:47,866
That's not my bag, it
never really has been.
917
00:43:47,901 --> 00:43:49,627
And so as the industry changed
918
00:43:49,661 --> 00:43:51,974
you know, I moved into more of an advocacy role.
919
00:43:52,008 --> 00:43:56,875
But with that, who's going to hire you when you're the one
920
00:43:56,910 --> 00:44:00,051
telling everybody how
to do things safely?
921
00:44:00,085 --> 00:44:01,500
You're a risk.
922
00:44:01,535 --> 00:44:04,503
So I found my way
into webcamming
923
00:44:04,538 --> 00:44:08,059
because I could completely set my own rules,
924
00:44:08,093 --> 00:44:11,200
control what I do,
what kinda content,
925
00:44:11,234 --> 00:44:16,136
what kinda shows I'm doing and I control my room.
926
00:44:17,344 --> 00:44:21,072
And man, once you
get that sensation
927
00:44:21,106 --> 00:44:24,178
of being completely in charge,
928
00:44:24,213 --> 00:44:26,974
there's kind of no going back.
929
00:44:27,009 --> 00:44:30,357
I am very lucky because
I have the fanbase
930
00:44:30,391 --> 00:44:33,878
that automatically brings people into my room.
931
00:44:33,912 --> 00:44:35,086
You know, people come in.
932
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:36,501
They can't believe
they're talking to me.
933
00:44:36,535 --> 00:44:37,709
It's the cutest thing.
934
00:44:37,744 --> 00:44:39,090
It's great for my ego.
935
00:44:39,124 --> 00:44:43,197
Let's be real, this is one-on-one, instant reaction.
936
00:44:43,232 --> 00:44:46,649
Whereas a porn star when
I started in the 90s,
937
00:44:46,684 --> 00:44:49,203
the Internet didn't
exist like that at all.
938
00:44:49,238 --> 00:44:50,135
Nobody trusted it.
939
00:44:50,170 --> 00:44:52,448
Porn sites didn't exist.
940
00:44:52,482 --> 00:44:55,900
And so there wasn't any
instant gratification
941
00:44:55,934 --> 00:44:59,110
like there is now
meaning I film a movie,
942
00:44:59,144 --> 00:45:03,735
I'm gonna wait six months beforemaybe it hits the shelves.
943
00:45:03,770 --> 00:45:07,394
And then you'll go to a trade show six months later.
944
00:45:07,428 --> 00:45:10,362
Maybe a few people
know who you are.
945
00:45:10,397 --> 00:45:12,295
And then maybe the next year,
946
00:45:12,330 --> 00:45:16,161
you got a line around the cornerand you've got legit fans.
947
00:45:16,196 --> 00:45:19,164
But it took work,
it took fan clubs.
948
00:45:19,199 --> 00:45:23,203
Now social media, webcamming.
949
00:45:23,237 --> 00:45:27,379
The Internet
changed, everything.
950
00:45:27,414 --> 00:45:29,485
You can take pictures
up of yourself,
951
00:45:29,519 --> 00:45:33,523
build your own little fan page and you're a superstar
952
00:45:33,558 --> 00:45:34,766
and in the matter of minutes
953
00:45:34,801 --> 00:45:37,942
without filming
one actual movie.
954
00:45:37,976 --> 00:45:42,705
And webcamming is no different.
955
00:45:42,740 --> 00:45:47,296
I can be one-on-one
with that fan
956
00:45:47,330 --> 00:45:52,335
who's having their own carved intimate experience with me.
957
00:45:53,820 --> 00:45:56,650
At that point, I'll
give them control
958
00:45:56,684 --> 00:45:59,791
because I'm still the
only one touching me.
959
00:45:59,826 --> 00:46:03,277
I'm the only one
interacting with myself
960
00:46:03,312 --> 00:46:06,487
and my physical being, you know?
961
00:46:06,522 --> 00:46:08,524
I'm safe.
962
00:46:08,558 --> 00:46:10,353
I'm not gonna get sick.
963
00:46:11,458 --> 00:46:15,565
I'm gonna have fun
[chuckles] on my terms.
964
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:20,605
And you know, in that moment when the show's over
965
00:46:21,675 --> 00:46:23,090
and they're throwing
money at you
966
00:46:23,125 --> 00:46:26,749
or they're leaving
these amazing reviews,
967
00:46:26,784 --> 00:46:28,889
you know right then and there
968
00:46:28,924 --> 00:46:32,341
how happy you just
made that fan.
969
00:46:32,375 --> 00:46:35,551
And now they're gonna
be a fan for life.
970
00:46:35,585 --> 00:46:36,897
They're gonna buy
all your content.
971
00:46:36,932 --> 00:46:38,485
They're gonna go to
all your social media.
972
00:46:38,519 --> 00:46:40,245
They're gonna come
to your cam room
973
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,869
again and again and again
974
00:46:44,318 --> 00:46:49,220
and that totally beats that waiting period, you know?
975
00:46:50,704 --> 00:46:53,258
Even now though, it's still instant with the other girls
976
00:46:53,293 --> 00:46:54,604
being able to do porn.
977
00:46:54,639 --> 00:46:56,434
It's really quick.
978
00:46:56,468 --> 00:47:01,473
But when you're on set, it's still incredibly different
979
00:47:02,198 --> 00:47:04,235
and far more difficult
980
00:47:04,269 --> 00:47:07,617
being the president of the Adult Performers Actors Guild.
981
00:47:07,652 --> 00:47:10,828
We're the union for porn
performers, webcammers,
982
00:47:10,862 --> 00:47:15,660
content producers, phone
sex operators, texters
983
00:47:15,694 --> 00:47:18,836
because we all work in the same fields, you know?
984
00:47:18,870 --> 00:47:22,736
If you do one thing, chances are you're doing everything.
985
00:47:22,770 --> 00:47:24,703
And so for us, it
just made sense
986
00:47:24,738 --> 00:47:28,190
to be able to streamline all of that into one place
987
00:47:28,224 --> 00:47:33,229
and a big part of our membership is webcam models.
988
00:47:35,991 --> 00:47:38,545
Something else that
we're dealing with
989
00:47:38,579 --> 00:47:42,273
is a new law in
California called AB 5
990
00:47:42,307 --> 00:47:45,276
and it is basically
a court decision
991
00:47:45,310 --> 00:47:49,314
about independent contractor status versus employee status
992
00:47:49,349 --> 00:47:52,593
that is making many people that were originally
993
00:47:52,628 --> 00:47:57,598
independent contractors, freelance workers employees.
994
00:47:57,633 --> 00:48:01,085
And you know, it works great for porn performers.
995
00:48:01,119 --> 00:48:04,640
It's totally necessary so they have workers compensation
996
00:48:04,674 --> 00:48:07,815
when they're on set because they are at risk.
997
00:48:07,850 --> 00:48:10,059
You know, accidents happen.
998
00:48:10,094 --> 00:48:12,717
People fall. [laughs]
999
00:48:12,751 --> 00:48:14,650
I have fallen off of a stool
1000
00:48:14,684 --> 00:48:16,894
with a dildo attached
to the middle of it
1001
00:48:16,928 --> 00:48:19,551
and hit my face on the
floor on my way down.
1002
00:48:19,586 --> 00:48:22,554
I know girls that have
fallen outta chairs
1003
00:48:22,589 --> 00:48:26,282
and hit their jaw on the floor and it broke in three places.
1004
00:48:26,317 --> 00:48:30,562
Like workers compensation is important in that life.
1005
00:48:30,597 --> 00:48:35,602
Can you imagine me being an employee from right here?
1006
00:48:37,155 --> 00:48:38,777
This is my bed.
1007
00:48:38,812 --> 00:48:41,849
That's my shelf. [chuckles]
1008
00:48:41,884 --> 00:48:43,334
That's my ceiling fan.
1009
00:48:43,368 --> 00:48:46,993
If it falls off, it
decapitates me. [laughs]
1010
00:48:47,027 --> 00:48:48,926
My homeowners
insurance covers that.
1011
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:50,928
It's kind of my fault.
1012
00:48:50,962 --> 00:48:55,760
So the idea of just something making us employees
1013
00:48:55,794 --> 00:49:00,799
inside of our own homes isgonna cost the webcam companies
1014
00:49:01,455 --> 00:49:02,732
a lotta money.
1015
00:49:02,767 --> 00:49:06,288
And there are
benefits to it, sure.
1016
00:49:06,322 --> 00:49:07,875
We would get to
keep all of our tips
1017
00:49:07,910 --> 00:49:09,947
'cause in the state
of California,
1018
00:49:09,981 --> 00:49:11,914
an employee can't take them.
1019
00:49:11,949 --> 00:49:13,536
And as a webcam model,
1020
00:49:13,571 --> 00:49:17,644
for many of the sites what the viewers at home don't realize
1021
00:49:19,059 --> 00:49:23,615
if we're lucky, we only take home 32% of that tip.
1022
00:49:25,031 --> 00:49:27,999
It means the rest of the 68% that you just gave us
1023
00:49:28,034 --> 00:49:30,760
'cause we gave you
a really great show
1024
00:49:31,761 --> 00:49:34,661
just went to the company owners
1025
00:49:34,695 --> 00:49:37,422
and that's a hard pill to swallow for a lotta girls.
1026
00:49:37,457 --> 00:49:38,630
I totally get that.
1027
00:49:38,665 --> 00:49:41,047
I feel it because it's the same
1028
00:49:41,081 --> 00:49:43,290
on all of those
platforms we work for.
1029
00:49:45,361 --> 00:49:50,125
But instead of complying
with what is now the law
1030
00:49:50,159 --> 00:49:55,164
as of January 1st, 2020, the companies are firing girls.
1031
00:49:58,996 --> 00:50:04,001
When you're Uber or Lyft, if you fire your drivers,
1032
00:50:05,071 --> 00:50:06,279
you don't have
business in that state
1033
00:50:06,313 --> 00:50:09,040
'cause you physically
absolutely need them.
1034
00:50:09,075 --> 00:50:12,526
You can't outsource
to a driver in Nevada
1035
00:50:12,561 --> 00:50:14,701
because they have to be here.
1036
00:50:14,735 --> 00:50:17,048
But when you're a cam company,
1037
00:50:17,083 --> 00:50:19,257
that's exactly what you can do.
1038
00:50:19,292 --> 00:50:24,297
You can shut off
access to those states
1039
00:50:25,505 --> 00:50:27,955
and basically fire your
models across the board
1040
00:50:28,818 --> 00:50:30,199
and that's what's happening.
1041
00:50:31,373 --> 00:50:32,960
And you know,
1042
00:50:34,893 --> 00:50:37,758
my organization supported AB 5
1043
00:50:39,346 --> 00:50:42,694
with the idea that
porn performers were
gonna be employees
1044
00:50:42,729 --> 00:50:44,558
because that's what
needed to happen.
1045
00:50:46,112 --> 00:50:51,048
And now that it's causing my friends to lose their jobs
1046
00:50:51,082 --> 00:50:55,535
because it affected people that no one understood,
1047
00:50:57,571 --> 00:51:02,542
there was no mention of it until what, December 6, 2019?
1048
00:51:04,095 --> 00:51:08,686
So couple weeks before
Christmas, girls
are gettin' fired.
1049
00:51:10,136 --> 00:51:13,208
No idea how they're gonna pay their rent come February
1050
00:51:13,242 --> 00:51:15,796
because they can't log in.
1051
00:51:17,522 --> 00:51:18,316
It's crazy.
1052
00:51:19,766 --> 00:51:24,667
So moving forward, there has been talks of a cleanup bill.
1053
00:51:27,014 --> 00:51:31,122
And you know, I
can't sleep at night.
1054
00:51:31,157 --> 00:51:33,642
It's a real thing that's
happening right now.
1055
00:51:33,676 --> 00:51:36,265
And I know that this isn't my fault, I get that.
1056
00:51:36,300 --> 00:51:41,305
But it's still hard to not feel as if I was a part of it,
1057
00:51:42,444 --> 00:51:43,652
especially because
they didn't understand
1058
00:51:43,686 --> 00:51:46,033
how it was going to
affect my own job.
1059
00:51:46,068 --> 00:51:49,106
We're talking about how
I pay my bills here.
1060
00:51:50,279 --> 00:51:54,973
And so I immediately
jumped to the ground.
1061
00:51:56,216 --> 00:51:59,046
We contacted the California Labor Federation
1062
00:51:59,081 --> 00:52:02,049
which is the union of all unions in California.
1063
00:52:02,084 --> 00:52:03,361
They had a meeting with us.
1064
00:52:03,396 --> 00:52:05,191
We brought webcam performers,
1065
00:52:05,225 --> 00:52:08,918
discussed the concerns
and what our fears were
1066
00:52:08,953 --> 00:52:11,680
and they immediately told us about the cleanup bill
1067
00:52:11,714 --> 00:52:14,269
that is working to
create exemptions
1068
00:52:14,303 --> 00:52:19,239
for people being affected in ways like my entire workforce
1069
00:52:20,447 --> 00:52:22,173
and I'm really excited
because at this point,
1070
00:52:22,208 --> 00:52:23,726
this is where I realize that
1071
00:52:23,761 --> 00:52:27,178
all the hard work that I've put into the union thus far
1072
00:52:27,213 --> 00:52:29,284
is completely paying off.
1073
00:52:29,318 --> 00:52:33,529
We already have a meeting set with the author of AB 5
1074
00:52:33,564 --> 00:52:35,635
because I know her personally
1075
00:52:35,669 --> 00:52:38,016
and she's already
spoken to the people
1076
00:52:38,051 --> 00:52:39,639
with California
Labor Federation.
1077
00:52:39,673 --> 00:52:41,606
And at this point,
completely understood
1078
00:52:41,641 --> 00:52:44,540
where we were coming
from was disappointed
1079
00:52:44,575 --> 00:52:46,956
that this is how
it's turning out
1080
00:52:46,991 --> 00:52:50,753
and agreed that she would make exemptions for our workforce.
1081
00:52:50,788 --> 00:52:53,584
So I'm really
thankful about that.
1082
00:52:53,618 --> 00:52:56,311
It's an odd position
for me to be in
1083
00:52:56,345 --> 00:53:01,350
where one side of my workers absolutely need this law
1084
00:53:02,248 --> 00:53:03,456
and it's important for them
1085
00:53:03,490 --> 00:53:05,458
and then the other
side of my workers
1086
00:53:05,492 --> 00:53:08,426
it just doesn't make sense for.
1087
00:53:08,461 --> 00:53:13,120
And so, from that point, it's going to the cam companies.
1088
00:53:13,155 --> 00:53:15,226
It's talking to them
about these tip levels.
1089
00:53:15,261 --> 00:53:20,266
Because the other reality is this law right now
1090
00:53:21,750 --> 00:53:26,064
basically means that every single cam performer
1091
00:53:26,099 --> 00:53:29,102
in the state of
California can sue
1092
00:53:29,136 --> 00:53:32,657
every single webcam company that they've worked for
1093
00:53:32,692 --> 00:53:37,697
for backpay and tips and lost revenue since April of 2018.
1094
00:53:39,664 --> 00:53:41,390
That's a lotta money.
1095
00:53:41,425 --> 00:53:43,668
And it gives us bargaining power
1096
00:53:43,703 --> 00:53:47,707
to have discussions about cutting those tips,
1097
00:53:47,741 --> 00:53:48,984
giving girls more of the money
1098
00:53:49,018 --> 00:53:51,504
that they're actually
earning for themselves.
1099
00:53:51,538 --> 00:53:54,783
Because as it is, they still only see 32% of that
1100
00:53:54,817 --> 00:53:58,683
you know, per-minute fee that they're getting anyway.
1101
00:53:58,718 --> 00:54:03,516
So camming has been a
very crazy world for me.
1102
00:54:03,550 --> 00:54:07,796
I got into it because it was fun and I enjoyed it.
1103
00:54:07,830 --> 00:54:10,143
I play video games
while I webcam.
1104
00:54:10,177 --> 00:54:12,283
That's a big part of what I do.
1105
00:54:12,318 --> 00:54:15,459
So for me, it's all about the entertainment side of it
1106
00:54:15,493 --> 00:54:16,908
as well.
1107
00:54:16,943 --> 00:54:18,979
But I certainly never thought that I would find myself
1108
00:54:19,014 --> 00:54:23,743
in a position here where
I'm fighting legislation
1109
00:54:23,777 --> 00:54:27,091
for my job, to save our jobs
1110
00:54:27,125 --> 00:54:30,681
and to try to bring
the work back.
1111
00:54:30,715 --> 00:54:34,443
Because I'm pretty sure
that when you know,
1112
00:54:34,478 --> 00:54:37,239
Lorena Gonzalez
offered this bill,
1113
00:54:37,274 --> 00:54:39,966
she didn't expect that people would get fired over it.
1114
00:54:42,279 --> 00:54:46,386
I think it's really important for the fans to speak out,
1115
00:54:46,421 --> 00:54:49,493
get involved, ask questions of the companies
1116
00:54:49,527 --> 00:54:51,909
that you're giving
your money to.
1117
00:54:51,943 --> 00:54:56,810
If you start putting pressure on them about how we get paid,
1118
00:54:56,845 --> 00:55:01,332
you can actually help
make the changes for us.
1119
00:55:01,367 --> 00:55:04,128
You know, we're a
solid voice together.
1120
00:55:04,162 --> 00:55:08,063
We're the workers, but it'syour money that they're earning
1121
00:55:08,097 --> 00:55:10,721
and so are we. [chuckles]
1122
00:55:10,755 --> 00:55:13,240
I always encourage
everyone to vote.
1123
00:55:13,275 --> 00:55:15,657
I think it's the
most important thing,
1124
00:55:15,691 --> 00:55:18,107
especially the girls
in the industry.
1125
00:55:18,142 --> 00:55:19,868
If you don't pay
attention to the way
1126
00:55:19,902 --> 00:55:22,664
that things are changing
around the industry
1127
00:55:22,698 --> 00:55:25,494
that you work in, you totally will miss the boat.
1128
00:55:25,529 --> 00:55:27,185
And I think that's
the biggest thing,
1129
00:55:27,220 --> 00:55:29,981
that is the biggest lesson here
1130
00:55:30,016 --> 00:55:31,845
because the cam
companies had no idea
1131
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:33,088
that this was happening.
1132
00:55:33,122 --> 00:55:35,193
They had no idea that
this was affecting them
1133
00:55:35,228 --> 00:55:36,781
in the way that it has.
1134
00:55:36,816 --> 00:55:39,819
They didn't understand
until December.
1135
00:55:39,853 --> 00:55:41,372
I mean let's be real,
1136
00:55:41,407 --> 00:55:43,754
I worked on the
legislation in a sense.
1137
00:55:43,788 --> 00:55:47,171
I helped, I marched, I spoke out
1138
00:55:47,205 --> 00:55:50,692
and even I didn't understand that it would affect
1139
00:55:50,726 --> 00:55:52,901
our jobs in the way that it did.
1140
00:55:52,935 --> 00:55:54,351
And I think it's
really important
1141
00:55:54,385 --> 00:55:57,457
for people to just be involved and pay attention.
1142
00:55:57,492 --> 00:55:59,114
A lotta girls talked about
1143
00:55:59,148 --> 00:56:02,704
how they had no
idea what AB 5 was,
1144
00:56:02,738 --> 00:56:06,017
but we've been talking about it since March. [laughs]
1145
00:56:06,052 --> 00:56:08,882
We've been talking about
it for what is that?
1146
00:56:08,917 --> 00:56:13,197
Seven, eight months before the hammer even came down
1147
00:56:13,231 --> 00:56:16,269
and I think that's the biggest lesson that girls learn.
1148
00:56:16,303 --> 00:56:18,513
You know, you can pay
attention to technology.
1149
00:56:18,547 --> 00:56:21,101
We all know the latest cameras that are coming out,
1150
00:56:21,136 --> 00:56:23,621
which one's gonna make
our skin look the best,
1151
00:56:23,656 --> 00:56:26,866
which light is gonna take away the most shadows.
1152
00:56:26,900 --> 00:56:29,006
We know every detail about that.
1153
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:32,630
I could tell you exactly how to make all the programs work.
1154
00:56:32,665 --> 00:56:34,114
I'm a blonde.
1155
00:56:34,149 --> 00:56:37,946
People would assume that I'mnot that intelligent, you know?
1156
00:56:37,980 --> 00:56:38,912
I get it all the time.
1157
00:56:38,947 --> 00:56:41,363
It's totally okay. [laughs]
1158
00:56:41,398 --> 00:56:43,814
I think it's less
intimidating to people.
1159
00:56:43,848 --> 00:56:47,473
But we are our own boss.
1160
00:56:47,507 --> 00:56:52,512
We create the entire facade that you see as a viewer.
1161
00:56:53,927 --> 00:56:58,484
We put so much of our sweatand literal tears into our jobs
1162
00:57:00,244 --> 00:57:02,419
and I think that we
definitely deserve
1163
00:57:02,453 --> 00:57:03,765
the compensation for it.
1164
00:57:03,799 --> 00:57:06,250
We deserve the
appreciation for it.
1165
00:57:06,284 --> 00:57:08,425
But like I said
in the beginning:
1166
00:57:08,459 --> 00:57:12,670
we get it at the end
of every single show.
1167
00:57:12,705 --> 00:57:14,361
We know how happy they are
1168
00:57:14,396 --> 00:57:18,227
or if it didn't go
that well. [laughs]
1169
00:57:18,262 --> 00:57:19,884
Let's be real, it happens.
1170
00:57:19,919 --> 00:57:21,507
You don't always know.
1171
00:57:21,541 --> 00:57:23,750
People have odd
usernames, you know?
1172
00:57:23,785 --> 00:57:26,546
If you come into my room and your name is Mr. Small,
1173
00:57:26,581 --> 00:57:30,481
I might think that you're into small penis humiliation.
1174
00:57:30,516 --> 00:57:32,897
I might start
talking shit to you.
1175
00:57:32,932 --> 00:57:35,693
It's not my fault. [laughs]
1176
00:57:36,556 --> 00:57:39,041
It's happened. [chuckles]
1177
00:57:39,076 --> 00:57:41,699
But camming is amazing.
1178
00:57:41,734 --> 00:57:45,427
Unless technology changes and gives us the next new thing,
1179
00:57:45,462 --> 00:57:50,467
in-room VR with body
sensory technology,
1180
00:57:51,571 --> 00:57:53,780
then this is where
I'll be in my bedroom
1181
00:57:53,815 --> 00:57:56,714
on my webcam. [chuckles]
1182
00:57:56,749 --> 00:57:58,578
- [Dark Infinity] Next, we caught up with monster actor
1183
00:57:58,613 --> 00:58:01,857
Alan Maxson, who provided us with a little insight
1184
00:58:01,892 --> 00:58:03,100
on what it's like portraying
1185
00:58:03,134 --> 00:58:06,206
some of Hollywood's most
memorable creatures.
1186
00:58:06,241 --> 00:58:08,692
- I am a huge fan
of monster movies,
1187
00:58:08,726 --> 00:58:11,246
even to the point
where when I was a kid,
1188
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:14,007
I wouldn't buy a VHS or a DVD
1189
00:58:14,042 --> 00:58:17,355
unless it had an alien or creature or monster in it.
1190
00:58:17,390 --> 00:58:21,739
You know, it's like movies with humans only are boring.
1191
00:58:21,774 --> 00:58:23,672
You know, if you're
gonna waste two hours
1192
00:58:23,707 --> 00:58:27,987
to escape from the
world to watch a movie,
1193
00:58:28,021 --> 00:58:31,577
why would you watch something that you can see in real life?
1194
00:58:31,611 --> 00:58:34,545
I wanna see something that I cannot see in real life
1195
00:58:34,580 --> 00:58:37,859
and that's where you
have monsters and aliens
1196
00:58:37,893 --> 00:58:40,655
and creatures and
things that are awesome
1197
00:58:40,689 --> 00:58:43,278
and visually
beautiful to look at.
1198
00:58:43,312 --> 00:58:46,488
That's what I think is cool about monster movies.
1199
00:58:46,523 --> 00:58:49,146
When you watch movies,
1200
00:58:49,180 --> 00:58:51,458
the most memorable
character to me at least
1201
00:58:51,493 --> 00:58:54,116
is always the
non-human character
1202
00:58:54,151 --> 00:58:56,843
and that's also the characters
1203
00:58:56,878 --> 00:58:59,225
that I wanted to have
the action figures of,
1204
00:58:59,259 --> 00:59:00,916
you want the poster
on your wall of.
1205
00:59:00,951 --> 00:59:04,126
You don't want the
human, it's boring.
1206
00:59:05,300 --> 00:59:09,649
And so I sought out
being a creature actor
1207
00:59:09,684 --> 00:59:11,513
and I do not regret it
1208
00:59:11,548 --> 00:59:14,930
because it is the most fun thing in the entire world
1209
00:59:14,965 --> 00:59:18,106
and I'm gonna keep
going until I can't.
1210
00:59:18,140 --> 00:59:21,868
Because man, it's awesome looking in the mirror
1211
00:59:21,903 --> 00:59:25,078
and seein' yourself
as a monster.
1212
00:59:25,113 --> 00:59:26,942
And when you're acting,
1213
00:59:28,357 --> 00:59:31,429
to me, it's much more fun than acting as a human
1214
00:59:31,464 --> 00:59:34,225
because you are otherworldly.
1215
00:59:34,260 --> 00:59:35,882
There's no rules to it.
1216
00:59:38,575 --> 00:59:42,509
You get to just let out the animal instinct in you
1217
00:59:43,407 --> 00:59:45,720
to bring that character to life.
1218
00:59:45,754 --> 00:59:46,721
It's so much fun.
1219
00:59:46,755 --> 00:59:48,170
I love it.
1220
00:59:48,205 --> 00:59:52,796
I've had a lotta very memorable roles that I love.
1221
00:59:54,211 --> 00:59:58,387
One of 'em is I got to playthe right head of King Ghidorah
1222
00:59:58,422 --> 01:00:03,427
in "Godzilla: King of the Monsters" for 2019's movie
1223
01:00:04,566 --> 01:00:06,844
and we did that
with motion capture.
1224
01:00:06,879 --> 01:00:10,710
And that one will
always stand out to me
1225
01:00:10,745 --> 01:00:14,196
as special in my heart
1226
01:00:14,231 --> 01:00:16,474
because it really
changed the game for me
1227
01:00:16,509 --> 01:00:21,376
and it really got a lot of attention and eyes on me
1228
01:00:21,410 --> 01:00:24,655
and helped me to
book future roles
1229
01:00:24,690 --> 01:00:28,797
because of what we
did in that film.
1230
01:00:28,832 --> 01:00:32,007
That one is particularly
special because
1231
01:00:34,251 --> 01:00:38,013
most creatures you
play by yourself,
1232
01:00:38,048 --> 01:00:40,740
just like any other actor.
1233
01:00:40,775 --> 01:00:43,985
But this one since
it had three heads,
1234
01:00:44,019 --> 01:00:47,609
they wanted a different personality for each head.
1235
01:00:47,644 --> 01:00:49,956
And so they took
three different actors
1236
01:00:49,991 --> 01:00:51,509
and they tied us together
1237
01:00:51,544 --> 01:00:54,547
and threw us in a
motion capture volume
1238
01:00:55,859 --> 01:00:56,791
and that's how we played it.
1239
01:00:56,825 --> 01:00:58,344
It was great.
1240
01:00:58,378 --> 01:01:02,244
It was a ton of fun and it was an experience of a lifetime.
1241
01:01:02,279 --> 01:01:04,937
I hope Legendary calls
us back for more.
1242
01:01:04,971 --> 01:01:07,180
That'd be a ton of
fun to do another one.
1243
01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:13,393
That one stands out to me as a very memorable experience.
1244
01:01:13,428 --> 01:01:17,190
And another one is actually I got to play Blade
1245
01:01:17,225 --> 01:01:21,919
in the "Puppet Master" film "Blade: The Iron Cross."
1246
01:01:21,954 --> 01:01:26,510
What they did was Tom Devlin had the regular-sized puppets
1247
01:01:26,544 --> 01:01:28,201
that he would puppeteer.
1248
01:01:28,236 --> 01:01:32,585
But then during
heavier stunt scenes
1249
01:01:32,619 --> 01:01:35,830
or running scenes
or full body shots,
1250
01:01:35,864 --> 01:01:40,248
Tom built a full suit to fit me
1251
01:01:40,282 --> 01:01:42,526
and they filmed me
on a green screen.
1252
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:44,735
And then John
Lechago, the director,
1253
01:01:44,770 --> 01:01:48,290
he just composites
it into this shot
1254
01:01:48,325 --> 01:01:51,708
that they filmed on
set and shrank me down.
1255
01:01:51,742 --> 01:01:53,295
So that was awesome
1256
01:01:53,330 --> 01:01:56,471
'cause I've been a huge "PuppetMaster" fan my whole life.
1257
01:01:59,025 --> 01:02:00,958
It's just super cool to
get to play a character
1258
01:02:00,993 --> 01:02:05,100
that you literally had action figures of as a kid
1259
01:02:05,135 --> 01:02:06,895
and you watch the
movies growing up
1260
01:02:06,930 --> 01:02:08,966
in your living room, you know?
1261
01:02:09,001 --> 01:02:13,005
So that was a great
experience for me.
1262
01:02:13,039 --> 01:02:17,216
If anybody is interested in being a creature actor,
1263
01:02:18,804 --> 01:02:21,358
all I can say is just
train as an actor.
1264
01:02:21,392 --> 01:02:23,187
I mean it's no different.
1265
01:02:23,222 --> 01:02:24,948
You have to have the motivation,
1266
01:02:24,982 --> 01:02:25,914
you have to have the character,
1267
01:02:25,949 --> 01:02:27,744
you have to have a background
1268
01:02:27,778 --> 01:02:30,677
and you just have to
think about those things
1269
01:02:30,712 --> 01:02:34,302
and the script and perform it.
1270
01:02:34,336 --> 01:02:36,753
It has to be real and
it has to feel real.
1271
01:02:36,787 --> 01:02:40,860
You can't just snarl
and bite somebody.
1272
01:02:42,448 --> 01:02:43,656
That's not acting.
1273
01:02:43,690 --> 01:02:47,108
You have to have actual
thought and intentions
1274
01:02:47,142 --> 01:02:48,799
as your character.
1275
01:02:48,834 --> 01:02:51,353
So I suggest if you wanna be a creature actor,
1276
01:02:51,388 --> 01:02:53,321
study real acting.
1277
01:02:53,355 --> 01:02:56,186
Just be an actor
1278
01:02:57,843 --> 01:02:59,258
and train physically
1279
01:02:59,292 --> 01:03:03,469
because it takes a lot of endurance and strength
1280
01:03:06,403 --> 01:03:09,337
and just concentration
and patience
1281
01:03:09,371 --> 01:03:11,132
really to do creature acting.
1282
01:03:11,166 --> 01:03:14,618
You gotta be under a lot of heavy prosthetics and suits.
1283
01:03:14,652 --> 01:03:16,965
So it can be claustrophobic sometimes,
1284
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:19,554
it can be hot sometimes, very uncomfortable sometimes.
1285
01:03:19,588 --> 01:03:24,593
So you know, just train and be physically fit and in-shape.
1286
01:03:26,941 --> 01:03:31,946
As an actor, I've played over I think 60 or more creatures
1287
01:03:33,223 --> 01:03:36,295
all under prosthetics
or makeup or suits.
1288
01:03:37,779 --> 01:03:41,300
That's for TV, film, commercials, music videos.
1289
01:03:41,334 --> 01:03:43,302
The whole kit and caboodle.
1290
01:03:43,336 --> 01:03:47,893
But along with being a creatureactor, I'm also a filmmaker.
1291
01:03:47,927 --> 01:03:50,067
I made two movies in the past.
1292
01:03:50,102 --> 01:03:52,898
One of them is called
"Christmas with Cookie"
1293
01:03:52,932 --> 01:03:55,107
and the other one
is called "Patina."
1294
01:03:55,141 --> 01:03:59,145
Both are available on Amazon, on streaming and Blu-ray.
1295
01:04:00,181 --> 01:04:03,425
So if you want to make a film,
1296
01:04:03,460 --> 01:04:06,981
don't be afraid to start
embarrassingly low.
1297
01:04:07,015 --> 01:04:08,914
Just make stuff, just do it.
1298
01:04:08,948 --> 01:04:09,915
Get out there.
1299
01:04:10,916 --> 01:04:13,884
Alan Maxson signing off.
1300
01:04:13,919 --> 01:04:15,644
- [Dark Infinity] In early 2018,
1301
01:04:15,679 --> 01:04:18,233
California legalized
recreational marijuana
1302
01:04:18,268 --> 01:04:19,994
in most of the state.
1303
01:04:20,028 --> 01:04:21,271
In a matter of days,
1304
01:04:21,305 --> 01:04:23,411
there were new shops
around every corner;
1305
01:04:23,445 --> 01:04:26,793
some even offering their
own delivery services.
1306
01:04:26,828 --> 01:04:30,901
Deep in Hollywood Hills
rests the High Church.
1307
01:04:30,936 --> 01:04:32,592
No only can you score
1308
01:04:32,627 --> 01:04:36,493
some of the highest-qualitymarijuana on this side of SoCal,
1309
01:04:36,527 --> 01:04:39,116
but they offer
spiritual awakenings
1310
01:04:39,151 --> 01:04:42,809
in the form of a dab
hit with any donation.
1311
01:04:42,844 --> 01:04:44,397
Let's take a peek inside.
1312
01:04:46,434 --> 01:04:50,265
Cameras, while not illegal, are forbidden by shop owners,
1313
01:04:50,300 --> 01:04:51,957
so we were forced
to go undercover
1314
01:04:51,991 --> 01:04:53,406
to bring you the insight needed
1315
01:04:53,441 --> 01:04:55,684
on this rapidly-growing
new industry.
1316
01:04:57,169 --> 01:05:00,344
Here, you could find nearly any strain you are after,
1317
01:05:00,379 --> 01:05:04,176
whether it's Indica for a more energetic and clear high
1318
01:05:04,210 --> 01:05:07,248
or Sativa for more
relaxed and calm high.
1319
01:05:08,594 --> 01:05:10,837
Different strains have different effects on the body.
1320
01:05:10,872 --> 01:05:13,219
There are many strains recommended by professionals
1321
01:05:13,254 --> 01:05:16,395
in this industry said to have the ability to fight anything
1322
01:05:16,429 --> 01:05:20,123
from minor depression, insomnia and eating disorders
1323
01:05:20,157 --> 01:05:22,504
to even some forms of cancer.
1324
01:05:22,539 --> 01:05:24,990
With new research findings being released every day,
1325
01:05:25,024 --> 01:05:26,474
we continue to learn more about
1326
01:05:26,508 --> 01:05:28,269
the many benefits of the plant
1327
01:05:28,303 --> 01:05:30,650
as well as the economic growth the state receives
1328
01:05:30,685 --> 01:05:31,962
from taxing the product.
1329
01:05:33,757 --> 01:05:36,587
With many other states following California's lead,
1330
01:05:36,622 --> 01:05:40,212
soon the days of reefer
madness should be over.
1331
01:05:40,246 --> 01:05:41,765
And countrywide,
1332
01:05:41,799 --> 01:05:44,078
it will become available to practically anyone in need.
1333
01:05:47,874 --> 01:05:49,842
[dark foreboding music]
1334
01:05:49,876 --> 01:05:52,741
After getting stoned
at the High Church,
1335
01:05:52,776 --> 01:05:55,606
we made one final stop
at the nursing home
1336
01:05:55,641 --> 01:05:58,126
of drag queen the Goddess Bunny,
1337
01:05:58,161 --> 01:06:01,578
a model with a very disfiguring form of polio.
1338
01:06:01,612 --> 01:06:04,132
She was all the rage in the late 80s and early 90s
1339
01:06:04,167 --> 01:06:06,100
in the Hollywood
underground scene.
1340
01:06:06,134 --> 01:06:08,102
Her distinct odd body structure,
1341
01:06:08,136 --> 01:06:11,001
combined with her sassy
wit and fun personality
1342
01:06:11,036 --> 01:06:13,659
made her irresistible
to fellow celebrities.
1343
01:06:13,693 --> 01:06:15,902
Even 90's shock
rocker Marilyn Manson
1344
01:06:15,937 --> 01:06:18,284
befriended the goddess,
even giving her a role
1345
01:06:18,319 --> 01:06:22,323
in his award-winning "The Dope Show" music video in 1998.
1346
01:06:23,669 --> 01:06:25,912
Today, she goes by
the name Sandie Crisp
1347
01:06:25,947 --> 01:06:28,674
and resides at a nursing
home in West Hollywood.
1348
01:06:28,708 --> 01:06:30,952
We were able to catch up with her for a few moments
1349
01:06:30,987 --> 01:06:32,402
and she was kind
enough to reflect
1350
01:06:32,436 --> 01:06:34,404
on some of her most
memorable experiences
1351
01:06:34,438 --> 01:06:36,993
as the reigning underground queen of entertainment.
1352
01:06:37,855 --> 01:06:39,892
- Well back in the early 80s,
1353
01:06:42,377 --> 01:06:47,072
I came to Hollywood
basically to be,
1354
01:06:49,074 --> 01:06:50,730
I'm out now, just a gay boy.
1355
01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:04,365
I was living at a home by the name of Michael Venegas.
1356
01:07:05,055 --> 01:07:06,608
Then a person by the
name of Jackie Sekiro,
1357
01:07:08,610 --> 01:07:10,164
who gave me a chair wench.
1358
01:07:11,855 --> 01:07:15,169
They were having a contest for Miss Gay Universe
1359
01:07:17,274 --> 01:07:18,448
and I started
1360
01:07:20,450 --> 01:07:21,865
making a dress,
1361
01:07:23,211 --> 01:07:27,422
trying on makeup,
learning how to do wigs.
1362
01:07:31,806 --> 01:07:36,431
Lo and behold, Bunny Victoria Venice was born.
1363
01:07:38,813 --> 01:07:40,056
- [Dark Infinity] Amazing.
1364
01:07:41,402 --> 01:07:45,716
- I was the first runner-up of Miss Gay Universe,
1365
01:07:47,201 --> 01:07:49,099
opposite Heather Fontaine
1366
01:07:52,620 --> 01:07:54,311
and this was back in 1981.
1367
01:07:57,763 --> 01:08:00,076
- [Dark Infinity] And since1981, you had quite the career.
1368
01:08:00,110 --> 01:08:02,112
You've done a lotta things with a lotta people.
1369
01:08:02,147 --> 01:08:04,114
Do you wanna tell us
about some of that?
1370
01:08:05,357 --> 01:08:06,737
- Well I worked
1371
01:08:09,430 --> 01:08:11,742
with Michael Jackson
on "Thriller."
1372
01:08:13,917 --> 01:08:14,918
I worked with
1373
01:08:16,644 --> 01:08:17,921
Marilyn Manson,
1374
01:08:19,405 --> 01:08:20,993
Dr. Dre,
1375
01:08:24,100 --> 01:08:25,687
Gloria Estefan.
1376
01:08:27,172 --> 01:08:28,897
I was in a play
called "Boogieman"
1377
01:08:30,968 --> 01:08:32,867
which was at the
LA Theater Center
1378
01:08:39,045 --> 01:08:42,118
and I've done odd
jobs here and there.
1379
01:08:43,222 --> 01:08:46,122
Last year I did a
movie called "Scumbag."
1380
01:08:50,298 --> 01:08:51,196
- [Dark Infinity] Wanna tell us
1381
01:08:51,230 --> 01:08:52,645
a little bit about that movie?
1382
01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:56,442
- "Scumbag" is about south central Los Angeles.
1383
01:09:03,898 --> 01:09:06,866
Well if you watched it,
1384
01:09:08,351 --> 01:09:10,456
you have to be smoking
weed to watch it
1385
01:09:11,940 --> 01:09:13,873
because that's the only
way it makes sense.
1386
01:09:18,775 --> 01:09:20,225
Basically it's about
1387
01:09:25,368 --> 01:09:27,197
phone callers,
1388
01:09:27,232 --> 01:09:30,718
people that call you
to sell you something
1389
01:09:34,342 --> 01:09:37,103
and what goes on in the offices
1390
01:09:38,243 --> 01:09:41,177
of those phone
company sorta things
1391
01:09:44,939 --> 01:09:48,011
and what they get away with.
1392
01:09:48,045 --> 01:09:50,358
- [Dark Infinity] What was your part in the film?
1393
01:09:50,393 --> 01:09:53,223
- Well I go to this nightclub
1394
01:09:56,606 --> 01:09:58,539
and the man who
I'm drinking with
1395
01:10:01,473 --> 01:10:02,681
gets jumped in an alley.
1396
01:10:04,545 --> 01:10:09,550
And I pull outta can of
hairspray and a lighter
1397
01:10:12,449 --> 01:10:15,659
and I end up chasing
the bad guys away
1398
01:10:15,694 --> 01:10:17,627
with my hairspray and lighter.
1399
01:10:18,938 --> 01:10:23,943
Using my hairspray
as a flamethrower,
1400
01:10:24,806 --> 01:10:26,014
I become the hero of the film.
1401
01:10:28,258 --> 01:10:30,467
- [Dark Infinity]
Sounds like a lotta fun.
1402
01:10:30,502 --> 01:10:32,124
- Yeah, it was interesting.
1403
01:10:32,158 --> 01:10:33,850
- [Dark Infinity] Do you
wanna talk a little bit
1404
01:10:33,884 --> 01:10:34,782
about your experiences
that you remember
1405
01:10:34,816 --> 01:10:36,162
working with Marilyn Manson?
1406
01:10:37,371 --> 01:10:40,546
- Well Brian, as I know him as.
1407
01:10:43,480 --> 01:10:44,378
Great guy.
1408
01:10:45,965 --> 01:10:47,243
Great sense of humor.
1409
01:10:49,866 --> 01:10:51,281
Very intelligent.
1410
01:10:53,490 --> 01:10:55,458
I wish these women
would stop thinking
1411
01:10:55,492 --> 01:10:59,082
that he's this
macho straight guy
1412
01:11:00,704 --> 01:11:02,223
'cause we all know he's not.
1413
01:11:05,571 --> 01:11:09,161
I mean any man who wears
more blush than I do,
1414
01:11:09,195 --> 01:11:14,166
honey, tellin' people, "He's a drag queen," all right?
1415
01:11:14,891 --> 01:11:16,479
Get over it, girls.
1416
01:11:18,239 --> 01:11:21,242
So he's got a big
schlong, get over it.
1417
01:11:22,347 --> 01:11:24,107
Most drag queens do.
1418
01:11:24,141 --> 01:11:25,522
Hello.
1419
01:11:25,557 --> 01:11:29,077
[Dark Infinity chuckling]
1420
01:11:30,458 --> 01:11:32,046
Brian called me one day
1421
01:11:36,326 --> 01:11:38,535
and I was out in Echo Park.
1422
01:11:42,056 --> 01:11:44,334
And he goes, "I want
you to be in a video."
1423
01:11:44,369 --> 01:11:45,404
I said, "Okay.
1424
01:11:47,717 --> 01:11:49,305
"Who's it with?"
1425
01:11:49,339 --> 01:11:50,858
"Marilyn Manson."
1426
01:11:50,892 --> 01:11:52,722
"Well who is she?"
1427
01:11:52,756 --> 01:11:56,173
[Dark Infinity chuckling]
1428
01:11:56,208 --> 01:11:57,382
He goes, "Well it's me."
1429
01:12:00,454 --> 01:12:01,938
"Marilyn Manson?"
1430
01:12:01,972 --> 01:12:06,494
He goes, "Yeah, Marilyn Monroe and Charlie Manson."
1431
01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:09,014
I go, "Okay."
1432
01:12:11,188 --> 01:12:13,156
Interesting concept, all right?
1433
01:12:15,054 --> 01:12:15,952
So show up.
1434
01:12:18,299 --> 01:12:22,027
We're in back of the
Superior Court building.
1435
01:12:25,064 --> 01:12:28,344
Of course they have this great big old stage that's like
1436
01:12:30,622 --> 01:12:32,278
13 feet in the air.
1437
01:12:34,419 --> 01:12:37,111
There's no way I can jump my wheelchair up this thing.
1438
01:12:38,733 --> 01:12:39,562
All right?
1439
01:12:40,425 --> 01:12:41,736
I can't climb the ladder.
1440
01:12:42,599 --> 01:12:43,497
That's out.
1441
01:12:45,671 --> 01:12:48,191
So basically the first day I got paid for nothin'.
1442
01:12:52,747 --> 01:12:56,855
Second day we went
over to Simi Valley
1443
01:12:58,926 --> 01:13:03,240
and we used a museum
that was shut down
1444
01:13:05,622 --> 01:13:07,486
and this museum
was a giant donut.
1445
01:13:10,593 --> 01:13:14,907
And they put a Plaster
of Paris over my boobs
1446
01:13:16,357 --> 01:13:18,497
to make boobs on his chest.
1447
01:13:19,981 --> 01:13:24,986
So you're lookin' at my tits, boys, on Brian's chest.
1448
01:13:31,234 --> 01:13:32,718
Brian was such a sweetheart.
1449
01:13:34,824 --> 01:13:37,551
During the 1998 MTV Awards,
1450
01:13:39,484 --> 01:13:44,489
the costumer, hairstylist and makeup artist didn't show up.
1451
01:13:48,354 --> 01:13:52,358
And the girls that
were back-up singers,
1452
01:13:52,393 --> 01:13:57,398
their dresses were still
on the bolt of material.
1453
01:13:59,158 --> 01:14:02,058
I had to act swift and quick.
1454
01:14:03,991 --> 01:14:08,996
I called the supplier here of the Universal Amphitheater.
1455
01:14:10,515 --> 01:14:13,794
Said, "I need a can
of gold spray paint
1456
01:14:15,278 --> 01:14:18,523
"and I need a can of
pink spray paint."
1457
01:14:19,593 --> 01:14:20,525
They sent it over.
1458
01:14:21,974 --> 01:14:26,531
I put all the boots upside down on the parking pillars
1459
01:14:28,291 --> 01:14:33,296
and me and my assistant spray painted all the pairs of boots
1460
01:14:34,539 --> 01:14:36,644
pink and then the gold.
1461
01:14:38,232 --> 01:14:41,028
The girls got the gold ones, the boys got the pink ones.
1462
01:14:42,201 --> 01:14:44,134
They got all their
uniforms on 'em.
1463
01:14:45,584 --> 01:14:49,070
I had to sit there and make a dress over the girls
1464
01:14:49,105 --> 01:14:51,694
while them laying
down on the ground
1465
01:14:52,867 --> 01:14:54,973
and we hot glued 'em
into the dresses.
1466
01:14:57,354 --> 01:14:59,874
And that's how the dresses were put on them girls.
1467
01:15:01,048 --> 01:15:02,670
- [Dark Infinity] Wow,
way for you to jump in.
1468
01:15:02,705 --> 01:15:05,777
- And Brian goes, "I owe ya."
1469
01:15:05,811 --> 01:15:07,537
"I'll say you owe me.
1470
01:15:08,469 --> 01:15:09,539
[Dark Infinity chuckling]
1471
01:15:09,574 --> 01:15:10,713
"Saved your bacon."
1472
01:15:11,541 --> 01:15:13,129
- [Dark Infinity] Is there anything you wanna say
1473
01:15:13,163 --> 01:15:13,854
to your fans then,
1474
01:15:13,888 --> 01:15:14,993
that you'd like to say to 'em?
1475
01:15:16,581 --> 01:15:20,895
- Well I wanna thank you for all your years of dedication
1476
01:15:20,930 --> 01:15:25,935
on this old queen and thank you for all your warm messages
1477
01:15:30,215 --> 01:15:34,081
I get on Facebook and
Instagram and Twitter.
1478
01:15:36,048 --> 01:15:36,877
Yeah.
1479
01:15:38,016 --> 01:15:39,465
You ever try fighting
with the president
1480
01:15:39,500 --> 01:15:41,985
of the United States on Twitter?
1481
01:15:42,020 --> 01:15:44,091
It's a lot of fun,
1482
01:15:44,125 --> 01:15:45,610
[Dark Infinity chuckling]
1483
01:15:45,644 --> 01:15:48,267
especially since he comes ill-equipped with brains.
1484
01:15:49,268 --> 01:15:50,546
- [Dark Infinity] Exactly.
1485
01:15:52,099 --> 01:15:52,996
Well thank you so much
1486
01:15:53,031 --> 01:15:54,584
for taking the time
to talk to us today.
1487
01:15:54,619 --> 01:15:56,034
We really appreciate it.
1488
01:15:56,068 --> 01:15:57,242
- You got it.
1489
01:15:57,276 --> 01:15:59,002
- [Dark Infinity] This country
1490
01:15:59,037 --> 01:16:00,141
is filled with
all walks of life:
1491
01:16:00,176 --> 01:16:01,902
the rich, the famous,
the beautiful,
1492
01:16:01,936 --> 01:16:04,249
the poor, the ugly and the weird
1493
01:16:05,319 --> 01:16:07,735
and Hollywood is no exception.
1494
01:16:07,770 --> 01:16:10,117
For in reality, there's
beauty in everything,
1495
01:16:10,151 --> 01:16:12,188
especially the
strange and weird.
1496
01:16:12,222 --> 01:16:14,259
We can learn from what
we don't understand.
1497
01:16:14,293 --> 01:16:15,881
And once we all understand each other better,
1498
01:16:15,916 --> 01:16:20,161
we can grow together and take humanity to a higher place.
1499
01:16:20,196 --> 01:16:22,578
This has been Dark Infinity.
1500
01:16:22,612 --> 01:16:25,097
And until next time, stay weird.
1501
01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:28,376
- 10 to is where I
start to get hoarse.
1502
01:16:28,411 --> 01:16:30,275
My voice is kinda hoarse.
1503
01:16:30,309 --> 01:16:31,725
- [Dark Infinity]
Oh, no worries.
1504
01:16:31,759 --> 01:16:35,107
[soft foreboding music]
1505
01:16:39,802 --> 01:16:41,355
Okay, so let's start with--
1506
01:16:41,389 --> 01:16:42,459
- I'm looking, looking?
1507
01:16:42,494 --> 01:16:43,875
- [Dark Infinity] You can look into the camera.
1508
01:16:43,909 --> 01:16:45,359
Yup, talk right to the camera.
1509
01:16:45,393 --> 01:16:46,602
Okay, are you?
1510
01:16:46,636 --> 01:16:48,293
- I had my dress
picked. [chuckles]
1511
01:16:48,327 --> 01:16:49,881
- [Dark Infinity]
Looks beautiful.
1512
01:16:49,915 --> 01:16:52,608
- [sighs] Anything that gives me the slim right now.
1513
01:16:53,747 --> 01:16:55,300
- [Dark Infinity] Okay, so we're gonna start out.
1514
01:16:55,334 --> 01:16:57,164
We'll have you talk
a little bit about
1515
01:16:57,198 --> 01:16:59,235
why you decided to step
back from the film work
1516
01:16:59,269 --> 01:17:01,375
and get into camming and
more mainstream films.
1517
01:17:01,409 --> 01:17:02,307
- Okay.
- Whenever you're ready.
1518
01:17:02,341 --> 01:17:03,929
- How's my language, clean?
1519
01:17:03,964 --> 01:17:04,758
Does it matter?
1520
01:17:04,792 --> 01:17:05,897
- Oh no, you can cuss.
1521
01:17:05,931 --> 01:17:07,139
It's all right.
- Talking about camming.
1522
01:17:07,174 --> 01:17:09,107
- Yeah, make it as
raunchy as you want.
1523
01:17:09,141 --> 01:17:11,005
It's fine.
- Okay.
1524
01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:12,041
- Go for it.
1525
01:17:16,528 --> 01:17:19,669
[dark haunting music]
1526
01:20:47,221 --> 01:20:51,018
[dark foreboding music]
1527
01:20:51,053 --> 01:20:54,056
[thunder crackling]
1528
01:20:56,575 --> 01:20:59,440
[eerie vocalizing]
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