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Narrator: Courthouses
are supposed to be
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Places of calm and dignity,
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Where order is maintained
and justice is served,
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But when stakes and emotions
are at their highest,
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Cool heads don't
always prevail.
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[ grunts ]
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[ indistinct commotion ]
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Coming up...
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We, the jury, find the
defendant, daniel villegas...
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Narrator: ...Fears and tears
as a man awaits his fate in
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A third capital murder trial.
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I believe that the tension,
you could cut it with a knife.
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A callous killer faces
a father's fury.
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[ indistinct commotion ]
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And a judge leaps
through his courtroom
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In a single bound.
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I just wanted to get them.
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Narrator: From superheroes
to a whiny mama's boy.
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You're gonna make me stand up
my own mother,
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My 83-year-old mother?
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Narrator: With key insights
from our team of crime
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And legal experts.
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Stalkers are
notorious for making
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Their victims
lives a living hell.
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Narrator:
On "chaos in court."
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♪♪
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On November 5, 2018,
lisa balch passes out justice
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For hartley t-shirts
outside a vancouver,
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Washington, courthouse.
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Five-year-old
hartley anderson
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Was murdered just
three days earlier.
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She was at our Halloween party
at work on Wednesday,
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And I got my last
hug from her.
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It's heartbreaking to see
somebody go through all this.
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Narrator: Lisa balch is one of
the many hartley family
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Supporters who gather
for the arraignment
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Of the child's alleged killer,
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37-year-old ryan burge.
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Rendelman: In 2018,
burge had been dating
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The mother of
this five-year-old child.
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He was babysitting
for the child.
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The mother returned home
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And found the child
unresponsive and unconscious.
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[ phone buttons beeping ]
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Hartley's mother,
nataasha luchau,
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Immediately calls 911.
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Operator: 911.
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Ryan burge says that
she has a temper tantrum,
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And that she goes
into her room and starts
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Banging her head
against the wall,
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Ultimately
losing consciousness.
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But other than that, he said
he had nothing to do with it.
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He never touched her.
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Narrator: Tragically, hartley
dies later at the hospital.
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An autopsy reveals
severe head trauma,
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And her death
is ruled a homicide.
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This was a very severe beating
that caused her death,
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And it just obviously couldn't
be explained away that
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She hit her head.
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It's not uncommon as police
officers, when we show up to
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Calls where a child
has been hurt,
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That someone will try to come
up with a very simple reason
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Why the child was injured.
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Oftentimes, those stories that
they give just don't match
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The injuries.
-Bryant: It turns out,
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Nataasha luchau,
the mother of little hartley,
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Has been dating mr. Burge only
four months -- doesn't have
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A real clear picture of his
background, which turns out to
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Have included
a number of crimes.
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Narrator: Ryan burge was
arrested in 2008 and spent
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Six years in prison for
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Setting fire to on apartment
building and trying to collect
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The insurance money.
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Now, the mom had no idea
about ryan's prison record.
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So even though his criminal
history doesn't show that
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He has any history of violence
toward anyone, much less kids,
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The fact that
he's babysitting a child,
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The child of the woman he's only
been dating for four months,
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Could be a recipe for disaster.
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Bryant: Nataasha luchau is
wrestling with so many emotions.
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Yes, she's just
lost her child,
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But she must probably also be
feeling some guilt.
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Narrator:
At a candlelight vigil,
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Hartley's mom speaks out.
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The child's biological father,
peter anderson, is by her side.
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Life will never be the same
without her again.
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Hartley isn't here to tell you
how much all your love and care
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Has meant, so I'll have to do it
[ voice breaking ] for her.
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For her -- hartley, you'll
always be in our hearts.
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I love you so much.
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We will never stop fighting
for justice for you.
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At burge's arraignment,
inside the courtroom,
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The grief and tension is
excruciating as the family
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Awaits burge's arrival.
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This is only three days after
the murder of this little girl,
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And everybody's heart
just goes out to the mother.
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They all have t-shirts on
for hartley,
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And they're packed
in this courtroom.
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Narrator:
The stakes are extremely high,
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As the family sees burge
for the first time since
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The child's death.
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Rendelman:
So as the defendant walks out,
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You can hear the audible cries
of the family members.
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[ sobbing ]
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You killed my baby.
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Bove: This defendant is
brought into the courtroom
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Wearing a suicide smock.
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Apparently,
the security had found out
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That he may be
a danger to himself.
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The material made from
a suicide smock is material that
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Just rips easy
so they can't hang themselves.
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It gives you an inside
look into what the mindset
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Or the emotional state
of ryan is.
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Narrator: Before
the proceeding even begins,
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Hartley's mother,
nataasha luchau,
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Is overwhelmed with emotion
and collapses.
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The mother of hartley
anderson, the woman that had
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Actually brought this demon
into the family and had
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Introduced him
to this five-year-old,
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Was so devastated when she saw
him that she physically had to
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Be lifted and taken out of
the courtroom.
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Narrator: Peter anderson,
hartley's biological father,
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Is just out of
the camera's view
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In the corner of the courtroom.
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Carrizales: To have to be in
a courtroom with the man who
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Murdered your child is gonna
be difficult for anyone.
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And that really became
the boiling point for
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Hartley's father.
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As a court officer, I know
from experience that dealing
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With an infant
or a baby's death,
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That the family is definitely
on edge,
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And the father just lost it.
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[ indistinct commotion ]
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[ dramatic music ]
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♪♪
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Bove: They cuffed him
for safety purposes,
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Not only for the court
officers, but also for himself.
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This father did
what anybody might do,
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But going after the defendant
really doesn't help anybody.
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It just makes everybody
more upset, more tense,
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And it does nothing to promote
getting justice for hartley,
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And that's the ultimate goal.
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Narrator: After order is
restored in the courtroom,
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Ryan burge enters a plea
of not guilty,
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Which only infuriates
hartley's family even more.
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Outside,
they pray for justice.
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One of the saddest aspects
is not just, you know,
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The fact that
this child is gone,
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But the grandfather comes out
of the courtroom and explains
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How this defendant has robbed
them of this grandchild.
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I'll never get to see her
graduate from high school,
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Be married, or anything.
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He took that from us.
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He took the joy
we had with her away.
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He -- I just hope the --
the system works.
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Narrator:
His hope is soon realized.
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On February 13, 2020,
ryan burge
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Is convicted of
second-degree murder.
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He is sentenced
to 40 years in prison.
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He's gonna be in jail
for pretty much
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The rest of his life.
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[ indistinct commotion ]
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[ gavel pounds ]
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Narrator:
In youngstown, ohio,
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62-year-old dale williams sr.
Is in
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Court after pleading guilty to
gunning down his girlfriend,
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46-year-old elizabeth pledger-
stewart, in cold blood.
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Rendelman: Dale williams sr. Had
been with the victim for about
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Four years.
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They had a pretty tumultuous
relationship in which
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He would often be jealous
of the victim.
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Toward the end,
it was getting really bad.
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In fact, the defendant sent her
a threatening text
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The night before the murder
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Saying the world would be
a better place without you.
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She told the cops about it.
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They didn't even
have the chance
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To, like, turn it over
to the detectives
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The next day because she was
already dead
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By eight o'clock
in the morning.
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[ camera shutter clicks ]
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At least one of
the police officers
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Saw the whole
thing happen.
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He was taken directly downtown
to the detective division.
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[ speaks indistinctly ]
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[ gunshot blasts ]
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Narrator:
With no prior criminal record,
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Dale williams calmly admits
to detectives that he killed
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Elizabeth because he believed
she was seeing someone else.
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By his own admission, he says
he -- he was out there ready
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To go. He knew her direction
of travel,
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How and when she went to work.
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He started at six o'clock
that morning,
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And he sat behind
an empty restaurant,
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Waiting for her car to pass.
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He waits for her,
and as he sees her
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Approaching in her vehicle,
literally crashes
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His vehicle into hers.
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[ glass breaking ]
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Whitmore: She's pleading
for her life, and he looks her
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In her eyes
and merely guns her down.
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[ gunshot blasts ]
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Narrator: Dale williams fires
ten shots at elizabeth
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At point-blank range.
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A street security
camera is rolling,
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But just misses capturing
the brutal murder on tape.
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Cantalamessa: At least one of
the police officers
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Saw the whole thing happen --
by the time he gets
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Out of the car, approaches
with his weapon drawn,
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Dale williams has already
dropped his weapon
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And pretty much gives himself
up to the police.
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We found no evidence
of miss stewart cheating on
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The defendant. Um,
we looked at her phone,
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We talked to the family,
and there was no evidence of
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That happening.
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Domestic homicide is one of
the most common types of
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Homicide in
the united states today,
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And about one-third, one-third,
of domestic violence victims
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Will lose their life
to their male partners.
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Narrator: Before williams is
sentenced at the mahoning county
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Courthouse
for the horrific murder,
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Judge maureen sweeney allows
elizabeth's family to give
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Victim impact statements.
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In the courtroom
is miss stewart's children,
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Two sons and a daughter.
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Her sons, anthony dees,
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Is 30 years old, and jerome
stewart was 23 years old.
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Narrator: This is a man
who's been part of
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Their mother's life for
the last four years,
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And for the grown children,
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Seeing him in court is
excruciatingly painful.
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I'm sure it was more than
her sons could bear.
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[ music climbing ]
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Narrator: Dale williams
has pled guilty to firing
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Ten deadly shots into
his longtime girlfriend,
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Elizabeth pledger-stewart
during a jealous rage.
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Elizabeth's three grieving
children are in court
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For his sentencing.
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Dorsey:
And now they're sitting
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Right behind the guy who
chased their mother
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And hunted her like an animal,
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Shot her as she begged
for her life,
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And now it's all they can do
to contain themselves.
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As the defendant is
sitting there waiting to hear
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Victim impact statements
from the sons
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And daughters of
the woman he killed,
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All of a sudden,
all hell breaks loose.
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[ indistinct commotion ]
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Anthony dees,
he's in a black shirt,
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He is the first one to go
after the defendant.
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[ indistinct commotion ]
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Bove: The first son
gets to the defendant,
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Who's shackled and handcuffed,
and pulls him off the chair
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Like a sack of potatoes
and start mopping the floor.
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The second son,
who has jumped in the fray,
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Is just throwing
haymakers at him.
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He's in custody.
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His welfare, his safety is
completely dependent on you.
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So they do have
a responsibility to protect
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Dale williams.
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Cantalamessa: What we were
thinking is holy crap.
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What's gonna happen?
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The judge ducks
out the back door,
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The other prosecutor and I kind
of ducked into the jury box,
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Because there's nowhere
else for us to go,
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And we weren't sure if
it was ever gonna end.
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The deputies really couldn't
get it under control to
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The extent
that they wanted to,
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So they had to use
the taser.
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[ indistinct commotion ]
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Carrizales: The taser is going
to shoot 50,000 volts
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Of electricity
into a person's body, which is
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Going to incapacitate them
for a period of time,
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But usually do not hurt them
to the point where they won't
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Recover and basically gives
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The officers the opportunity to
gain control of that subject,
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Which is what they did.
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Narrator:
For their violent outbursts,
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Both the victim's sons,
brothers anthony and jerome,
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Are arrested and charged with
obstructing official business.
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Cantalamessa: They ended up
getting five days in jail,
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90 days with
85 days suspended.
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We, as judges, cannot allow
someone to impose
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Justice on their own by having
a physical altercation.
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Ultimately, dale williams was
sentenced to 23 years to
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Life in prison for the murder
of elizabeth pledger-stewart.
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[ indistinct commotion ]
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♪♪
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Mcbain: [bleep]
versus jacob larson.
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24-year-old jacob larson
is no stranger
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To judge john mcbain
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And his jackson county,
michigan, courtroom.
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Jacob larson had been
in court about four months
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Before for stalking
this young woman,
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A young woman that he knew
from high school.
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Dawson: Judges take stalking
cases very seriously
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Because serious harm
could be done to the victim.
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He was slapped previously
with a restraining order
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Against a victim that
he's been stalking.
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Now the nature of what
a stalker is
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Is that they don't stop.
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They don't respect
the authority
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A restraining order has.
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Bryant: This young man,
for the last year,
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Was accused of going to
this young woman's work,
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Dropping off flowers at her
house, and leaving odd messages
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On her various
social media accounts.
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He continued to harass her,
reach out to her,
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And she became incredibly
concerned for her safety.
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If an order is in place and
the person isn't following it,
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Then you, the person who wants
the order, has to go back to
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Court to get the court
to enforce it.
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Unfortunately, it is very
common for adult victims of
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Stalking to be in the same
courtroom as their tormentors.
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Dawson: There's only one
bailiff in the courtroom.
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I wouldn't even have
the victim at the table
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And maybe not have the victim
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In the room until it was time
for the victim
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To even testify.
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But that's not the case here.
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Jacob and his victim
is sitting just
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A few feet away
from each other.
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Narrator: The woman being
stalked submits evidence
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That larson has violated
the protection order
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A whopping 22 times.
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This is a bizarre scenario
because you're in court,
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And the alleged stalker is
pointing to the alleged victim,
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Saying it's her fault.
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Carrizales: It is not unusual
for a stalker to believe that
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He, in some way, has
a relationship with his victim.
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She tried to be calm,
cool, and collected,
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But larson
wanted to control her,
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And he wanted
to control the situation.
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Judge mcbain was not
having any of it.
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The judge does not like
the mouthing off.
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In fact, this is a judge
who's known to be no-nonsense.
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Narrator: But jail time doesn't
go over well with larson,
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And his back talk is about to
push this judge over the edge.
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[ indistinct ]
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Narrator: Accused stalker,
jacob larson,
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Violated a personal
protection order
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And is sitting just a few
feet away from his victim
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In court.
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He's furious when judge john
mcbain gives him three days in
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Jail for mouthing off.
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He has no idea what he's doing
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Because the court
has tremendous power.
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Bove: The security in
the courtroom should be on alert
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That this defendant has
no regard for the judge,
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What the judge is saying --
he's leaning back in his chair.
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He has his hand in his pocket,
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Which you never want someone
to do when they're up there.
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You don't want them
to take out
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An object and use it
as a weapon.
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Stand up.
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Come stand up.
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The court officer begins
to handcuff jacob larson,
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But jacob larson is not having
it, and he is not willing
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To be handcuffed.
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Good.
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Why do you think
you're sitting there, dude?
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She's been telling you
all along,
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I don't want to see you,
but this stalker has
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A whole different approach
to the problem.
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Rendelman: This young woman,
who has been harassed
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And stalked by this young man
must be
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Absolutely terrified that
he could come over to her
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At any point and hurt her.
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Put your hands
behind your back.
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Narrator: As he watches
the defendant struggle
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With the court officer,
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The judge rips off his robe
and comes to his rescue.
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Let me tell you,
you don't want to get into
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A battle or any type of tussle
wearing a robe.
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Tase his ass,
right now! Do it now!
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Rendelman: You cannot even
see the judge anymore,
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As he is literally down
on the ground trying to
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Hold jacob larson
as the court officer
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Attempts to handcuff him.
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They're trying to control
this guy, who has just turned
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A simple stalking, three-day
sentence into a year in jail
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For contempt.
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Narrator: Luckily for larson,
he isn't tased, after all.
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Rendelman: After this defendant
is finally handcuffed,
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Finally brought under control,
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He is removed from
the courtroom
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And brought to jail.
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Narrator: The judge
cools off and brings
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His sentence
back down to 93 days.
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But after serving his time,
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Jacob larson goes right back
to stalking his victim.
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This defendant was charged
with aggravated stalking,
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Which is a felony,
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And ultimately, he got five
years in jail for the crime.
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Stalkers are notorious
for being unrelenting.
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They find real pride in making
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Their victims'
lives a living hell.
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Put it down! That is
enough from you, all right?
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♪♪
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Narrator: On October 5, 2018,
the jury has
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00:22:53,573 --> 00:22:55,873
Reached a verdict in
the capital murder trial
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00:22:55,975 --> 00:22:58,476
Of 41-year-old
daniel villegas.
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00:22:58,578 --> 00:23:01,045
Daniel has been tried
three different times
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00:23:01,147 --> 00:23:03,581
For double homicide
in el paso, texas,
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00:23:03,683 --> 00:23:06,217
And has spent nearly
half his life in prison.
406
00:23:06,319 --> 00:23:09,653
It's always gut-wrenching,
waiting for the verdict to
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00:23:09,756 --> 00:23:12,022
Be read, but can you imagine
this being the third time
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00:23:12,125 --> 00:23:14,558
For this man who's lived
in prison for 18 years?
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00:23:14,660 --> 00:23:16,894
Everything is gonna
happen in seconds.
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00:23:19,465 --> 00:23:22,700
Narrator: Daniel's nightmare
began back in 1993.
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He was a good kid who'd never
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00:23:24,470 --> 00:23:26,270
Been in trouble
with the law before.
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00:23:26,372 --> 00:23:30,040
But in a twist of fate,
a silly,
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00:23:30,143 --> 00:23:34,245
Stupid joke changed the course
of daniel's life.
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He was accused of killing
two teenagers in
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A drive-by shooting
when he was 16 years old.
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Narrator:
On April 10, 1993,
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Four teenage boys
are walking home
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From a house party when a car
pulls up alongside them.
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Suddenly, multiple shots are
fired from the passenger side.
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Bryant: Robert England
is shot in the head,
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00:23:57,837 --> 00:23:59,737
And he drops to the ground.
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00:23:59,839 --> 00:24:02,373
17-year-old
armando lazo is hit
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In the abdomen and leg
and also dies.
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00:24:06,045 --> 00:24:09,513
Juan medina and jesse
hernandez managed to escape.
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00:24:09,615 --> 00:24:12,082
They ran away unharmed.
427
00:24:12,185 --> 00:24:13,717
Narrator:
The two surviving boys tell
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Police they can't
identify the shooter.
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There's a lot of pressure
on police to solve this case.
430
00:24:19,559 --> 00:24:21,492
Over a week had gone by,
and they had
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00:24:21,594 --> 00:24:23,327
No leads
on this case whatsoever.
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But one night, daniel villegas,
trying to be cool,
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Jokingly tells his cousin,
david rangel,
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That he is the shooter.
435
00:24:33,239 --> 00:24:34,605
And then he goes,
you're kidding.
436
00:24:34,707 --> 00:24:36,006
And then daniel
starts laughing.
437
00:24:36,108 --> 00:24:37,942
He goes, yeah,
I was [bleep].
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Narrator: Nearly two weeks
after the murders,
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Police bring in a number of
teenagers from el paso's
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Northeast side
for questioning,
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00:24:44,684 --> 00:24:47,051
Including
daniel villegas's cousin,
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00:24:47,153 --> 00:24:49,220
17-year-old david rangel.
443
00:24:49,322 --> 00:24:53,457
He is fingered as
the trigger man by his cousin.
444
00:25:00,199 --> 00:25:01,465
He said,
"well, he was just kidding."
445
00:25:01,567 --> 00:25:03,801
He goes,
"well what did he tell you?"
446
00:25:03,903 --> 00:25:05,436
Then he tells them the story.
447
00:25:10,576 --> 00:25:13,277
So the cops haul
daniel villegas in.
448
00:25:13,379 --> 00:25:14,812
Remember, he's 16.
449
00:25:14,914 --> 00:25:16,847
They throw him in a chair,
interrogate him.
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00:25:16,949 --> 00:25:18,048
No attorney.
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00:25:18,150 --> 00:25:20,651
What was running through
my 16-year-old mind at that time
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Was I was scared as [bleep].
And I didn't know who the hell
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00:25:23,256 --> 00:25:25,990
These you guys were. You know,
all the respect to the victims,
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I didn't know who they were.
455
00:25:27,226 --> 00:25:29,159
Carrizales:
Daniel was denied his basic
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00:25:29,262 --> 00:25:32,062
Constitutional right
during his interrogation.
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00:25:32,164 --> 00:25:34,832
Not only did he not have his
parents present, but he didn't
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Have an attorney present
when he was interrogated,
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Handcuffed to a chair, and
threatened to be assaulted by
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These police officers if he did
not provide a confession.
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00:25:54,353 --> 00:25:56,887
It is not uncommon,
and, in fact,
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It's used all the time, where
detectives are going to tell
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00:26:00,593 --> 00:26:02,893
A lie, they're going to try and
trick you up a little bit to
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Gain a confession,
and this is allowed.
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But officers are not allowed
to take part in any type of
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00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,769
Coercive techniques,
meaning threats, intimidation.
467
00:26:11,871 --> 00:26:14,271
They cannot treat
a suspect that they're
468
00:26:14,373 --> 00:26:17,808
Interrogating in any kind of
inhumane way.
469
00:26:17,910 --> 00:26:22,680
Whitmore: So after hours of all
this pressure and questioning
470
00:26:22,782 --> 00:26:26,383
And interrogation and forcing
this individual to be here
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And to answer these questions,
with all of these layers of
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00:26:30,022 --> 00:26:32,856
Pressure and the fear
he was facing,
473
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Villegas
actually confesses.
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The fact is that,
a few hours later,
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He recants, and he says,
"no, that's not what happened."
476
00:26:41,667 --> 00:26:43,867
It doesn't matter.
The cops have what they want.
477
00:26:43,970 --> 00:26:45,369
This guy's going to trial.
478
00:26:46,739 --> 00:26:48,939
I just could not conceive
in my head that
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00:26:49,041 --> 00:26:50,240
This was reality.
480
00:26:50,343 --> 00:26:52,409
You know, I couldn't conceive
it in my head.
481
00:26:52,511 --> 00:26:53,844
This is america.
482
00:26:53,946 --> 00:26:56,413
Narrator: Daniel's alibi?
That he was with friends
483
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Babysitting the night of
the murders.
484
00:26:58,551 --> 00:27:01,385
On December 5, 1994,
485
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,354
Daniel's trial begins.
486
00:27:03,456 --> 00:27:05,789
Jaime olivas is
his defense lawyer.
487
00:27:05,891 --> 00:27:07,891
And he actually put on
a decent defense.
488
00:27:07,994 --> 00:27:10,828
He raised the alibi defense,
489
00:27:10,930 --> 00:27:14,264
Called many witnesses that
were able to corroborate that
490
00:27:14,367 --> 00:27:16,667
Daniel was babysitting.
491
00:27:16,769 --> 00:27:18,769
Narrator: But daniel's
coerced confession was
492
00:27:18,871 --> 00:27:21,271
Still part of
the state's evidence.
493
00:27:21,374 --> 00:27:24,008
Is he gonna go to jail for
the rest of his life?
494
00:27:30,683 --> 00:27:33,751
Narrator: Daniel villegas is
just 17 years old when he goes
495
00:27:33,853 --> 00:27:37,788
On trial for the murders of
two teenage boys in 1993.
496
00:27:37,890 --> 00:27:40,858
Villegas initially confessed
to the drive-by shootings
497
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:42,626
But later changed his story,
498
00:27:42,728 --> 00:27:45,596
Saying he'd been coerced
during a police interrogation.
499
00:27:45,698 --> 00:27:49,900
Even though daniel villegas
recanted his confession
500
00:27:50,002 --> 00:27:51,335
To the detectives,
501
00:27:51,437 --> 00:27:56,240
That confession was used
by prosecutors against him.
502
00:27:56,342 --> 00:28:00,110
Narrator: In December of 1994,
the first trial ends in
503
00:28:00,212 --> 00:28:04,415
A hung jury, deadlocked 11 to 1
in favor of conviction.
504
00:28:04,517 --> 00:28:07,051
Spencer: One of the jurors just
did not believe that daniel
505
00:28:07,153 --> 00:28:08,419
Had committed the offense,
506
00:28:08,521 --> 00:28:11,055
And they stuck
to their conviction,
507
00:28:11,157 --> 00:28:13,624
And we had a mistrial,
so we had a second trial.
508
00:28:15,795 --> 00:28:18,729
Narrator: Just two months before
the second trial is set to begin
509
00:28:18,831 --> 00:28:22,599
In August 1995, villegas is
given a court-appointed
510
00:28:22,702 --> 00:28:23,734
Defense attorney.
511
00:28:23,836 --> 00:28:27,671
Carrizales: There was no dna
from daniel villegas.
512
00:28:27,773 --> 00:28:29,873
There was never
a firearm located.
513
00:28:29,975 --> 00:28:32,076
There was never
any forensic evidence
514
00:28:32,178 --> 00:28:35,112
Linking daniel villegas
to this crime.
515
00:28:35,214 --> 00:28:37,014
Narrator: But none of that
seems to matter
516
00:28:37,116 --> 00:28:38,682
In daniel's case,
517
00:28:38,784 --> 00:28:40,718
There's no doubt that once
you get a confession,
518
00:28:40,820 --> 00:28:42,086
It's so powerful.
519
00:28:42,188 --> 00:28:43,854
No matter what
the circumstances are
520
00:28:43,956 --> 00:28:45,422
In getting that confession,
521
00:28:45,524 --> 00:28:48,358
It can lead to a conviction
when there's almost
522
00:28:48,461 --> 00:28:49,493
No other evidence.
523
00:28:50,930 --> 00:28:54,031
Narrator: And in 1995,
daniel villegas is convicted of
524
00:28:54,133 --> 00:28:57,134
Capital murder and sentenced
to life in prison.
525
00:29:13,619 --> 00:29:16,854
Bryant: Daniel villegas
goes to prison at age 18,
526
00:29:16,956 --> 00:29:21,592
And he spends the next 18 years
of his life behind bars.
527
00:29:28,567 --> 00:29:31,368
Narrator: By August 2012,
villegas has a new
528
00:29:31,470 --> 00:29:34,304
Legal team, led by attorney
joe spencer.
529
00:29:34,406 --> 00:29:37,441
He successfully petitions
the appellate court for
530
00:29:37,543 --> 00:29:40,377
A new trial based on
ineffective counsel.
531
00:29:40,479 --> 00:29:44,448
The court of appeals did
allow the case to be presented
532
00:29:44,550 --> 00:29:47,718
Back to the court so that
all the other information,
533
00:29:47,820 --> 00:29:51,488
And all the other evidence
could be presented in a way
534
00:29:51,590 --> 00:29:53,690
That was fair to the defendant.
535
00:29:55,561 --> 00:29:57,461
Narrator:
After spending 18 years,
536
00:29:57,563 --> 00:29:59,630
Half his life behind bars,
537
00:29:59,732 --> 00:30:02,866
Daniel is released
on bond pending a third trial.
538
00:30:02,935 --> 00:30:04,568
But it's not an acquittal.
539
00:30:04,670 --> 00:30:07,137
They have to go through
the trial process again.
540
00:30:07,239 --> 00:30:10,174
Narrator: This time, villegas's
attorneys move to suppress
541
00:30:10,276 --> 00:30:13,877
His 1993 confession,
and the move works.
542
00:30:13,979 --> 00:30:16,947
Judge sam medrano rules
the confession to be
543
00:30:17,049 --> 00:30:18,549
Inadmissible as evidence,
544
00:30:18,651 --> 00:30:21,318
Saying it was obtained by
coercive conduct by
545
00:30:21,420 --> 00:30:22,586
Police officers.
546
00:30:22,688 --> 00:30:25,222
While the police officers
were never charged
547
00:30:25,324 --> 00:30:27,124
With any improper conduct,
548
00:30:27,226 --> 00:30:31,328
Daniel gets a second chance
at life with a new trial.
549
00:30:32,932 --> 00:30:35,132
Rendelman:
He was out for four years,
550
00:30:35,234 --> 00:30:38,302
Raised a family during
the time he was awaiting
551
00:30:38,404 --> 00:30:39,903
His third trial to happen.
552
00:30:40,005 --> 00:30:41,171
Every system is different.
553
00:30:41,273 --> 00:30:42,439
In this particular case,
554
00:30:42,541 --> 00:30:45,042
This case has spanned
across four years.
555
00:30:52,718 --> 00:30:54,284
Narrator:
Daniel's third trial begins
556
00:30:54,386 --> 00:30:58,422
On October 1, 2018,
and without the confession,
557
00:30:58,524 --> 00:31:01,225
The prosecution doesn't have
much of a case.
558
00:31:01,327 --> 00:31:03,360
State's putting on their case,
559
00:31:03,462 --> 00:31:05,662
They were not getting anybody
560
00:31:05,764 --> 00:31:07,831
That was
incriminating daniel.
561
00:31:07,933 --> 00:31:09,600
They were not getting
any evidence in that
562
00:31:09,702 --> 00:31:11,034
I thought was hurting us.
563
00:31:11,136 --> 00:31:13,070
Narrator:
After the prosecution rests,
564
00:31:13,172 --> 00:31:15,305
The defense doesn't call
a single witness.
565
00:31:15,407 --> 00:31:17,841
We've got everybody
in a small room
566
00:31:17,943 --> 00:31:20,110
And said okay,
everybody knows this case.
567
00:31:20,212 --> 00:31:21,812
They didn't prove anything.
568
00:31:21,914 --> 00:31:23,614
And we made a decision
in that room
569
00:31:23,716 --> 00:31:26,650
Not to put on any evidence
because we just didn't feel
570
00:31:26,752 --> 00:31:28,919
We needed to.
571
00:31:28,988 --> 00:31:32,856
So the day of verdict comes,
and in the courtroom, you can
572
00:31:32,992 --> 00:31:35,492
Imagine the intensity
of the emotion,
573
00:31:35,594 --> 00:31:37,127
What the family
members are feeling,
574
00:31:37,229 --> 00:31:39,162
What he's feeling
on the inside.
575
00:31:39,265 --> 00:31:40,330
Spencer:
Daniel looks at me,
576
00:31:40,432 --> 00:31:42,366
And he starts
hyperventilating.
577
00:31:42,468 --> 00:31:44,134
He starts collapsing.
578
00:31:44,236 --> 00:31:46,637
He starts telling me,
tell my kids
579
00:31:46,739 --> 00:31:48,572
I'm sorry,
tell my kids I love them.
580
00:31:48,674 --> 00:31:49,773
I know they're gonna
convict me.
581
00:31:49,875 --> 00:31:51,275
I know they're not gonna --
I'm not gonna
582
00:31:51,377 --> 00:31:53,543
See 'em again,
and he starts panicking.
583
00:31:55,014 --> 00:31:57,814
He knows everything
he has fought for
584
00:31:57,917 --> 00:31:59,583
Over the last 22 years,
585
00:31:59,685 --> 00:32:03,253
18 of them in prison,
is now coming to a head.
586
00:32:03,355 --> 00:32:06,156
Everything is gonna happen
in seconds.
587
00:32:06,258 --> 00:32:08,025
We, the jury,
find the defendant,
588
00:32:08,127 --> 00:32:10,594
Daniel villegas
not guilty of...
589
00:32:10,696 --> 00:32:13,163
[ cheering ]
590
00:32:31,450 --> 00:32:34,651
Rendelman: You can hear outburst
from everybody in the courtroom,
591
00:32:34,753 --> 00:32:37,354
And daniel villegas
is barely able to stand.
592
00:32:37,456 --> 00:32:41,491
He's so emotional, crying into
the arms of his attorney.
593
00:32:46,231 --> 00:32:48,832
Spencer:
I was very happy for daniel.
594
00:32:48,934 --> 00:32:51,201
Tremendous sigh of
relief for daniel,
595
00:32:51,303 --> 00:32:54,304
That we were able
to give him justice
596
00:32:54,406 --> 00:32:57,507
That he'd been -- eluded
him for a quarter of a century.
597
00:32:57,609 --> 00:32:59,710
[ singing indistinctly ]
598
00:32:59,812 --> 00:33:03,013
Daniel villegas and his wife
have chosen to take
599
00:33:03,148 --> 00:33:06,683
This horrible experience in
their life and use it for
600
00:33:06,785 --> 00:33:07,985
Something positive.
601
00:33:08,087 --> 00:33:10,954
There now advocates for other
individuals who've been
602
00:33:11,056 --> 00:33:12,389
Wrongfully convicted,
603
00:33:12,491 --> 00:33:15,158
So kudos to both of them
for doing that.
604
00:33:15,260 --> 00:33:16,927
It takes an incredible spirit
to be
605
00:33:17,029 --> 00:33:19,062
Able to rise
from something like this.
606
00:33:37,416 --> 00:33:39,349
[ cheering and screaming ]
607
00:33:39,451 --> 00:33:45,622
♪♪
608
00:33:45,724 --> 00:33:48,325
Narrator: Sometimes, courtroom
chaos is caused by people
609
00:33:48,427 --> 00:33:50,360
Whose job it is
to keep things orderly.
610
00:33:50,462 --> 00:33:52,996
We're on for --
it's a motion for contempt
611
00:33:53,098 --> 00:33:54,931
By the commonwealth,
is that right?
612
00:33:55,034 --> 00:33:56,867
Narrator:
52-year-old robert fleck,
613
00:33:56,969 --> 00:33:59,369
The assistant
jefferson county prosecutor,
614
00:33:59,471 --> 00:34:03,473
Is in a hearing before
judge sandra mclaughlin.
615
00:34:03,575 --> 00:34:06,977
So we're in the louisville
courtroom with what would
616
00:34:07,079 --> 00:34:10,047
Normally be considered
a pretty simple matter.
617
00:34:10,149 --> 00:34:12,182
It's a dui hearing.
618
00:34:12,284 --> 00:34:13,683
The prosecutor is there,
619
00:34:13,786 --> 00:34:17,154
The defendant is there, and his
defense attorney is there.
620
00:34:17,256 --> 00:34:20,757
That's when things
go a little bizarre.
621
00:34:20,859 --> 00:34:24,361
The goal today for
the defender, mr. Braunbeck,
622
00:34:24,463 --> 00:34:26,096
Is to get his client's
623
00:34:26,198 --> 00:34:29,833
Dui, driving under
the influence, deferred.
624
00:34:29,935 --> 00:34:32,903
Narrator: But the prosecutor
argues that the defendant,
625
00:34:33,005 --> 00:34:34,304
Rickie mcallister,
should get
626
00:34:34,406 --> 00:34:37,774
180 days in jail
for contempt after skipping
627
00:34:37,876 --> 00:34:40,077
His court-ordered
alcohol education classes
628
00:34:40,179 --> 00:34:43,180
Eight times over
the past three years.
629
00:34:43,282 --> 00:34:44,815
I know why
he has failed to comply.
630
00:34:44,917 --> 00:34:47,451
He's failed to comply because
he doesn't want to do it.
631
00:34:47,553 --> 00:34:49,586
We've had no evidence
whatsoever here today,
632
00:34:49,655 --> 00:34:51,988
So, I mean,
that's where we are.
633
00:34:52,091 --> 00:34:54,524
In the midst of that defense,
634
00:34:54,626 --> 00:34:57,861
The prosecutor feels
insulted by statements
635
00:34:57,963 --> 00:34:59,162
From the defense attorney,
636
00:34:59,264 --> 00:35:01,231
And they begin to go back
and forth.
637
00:35:01,333 --> 00:35:04,301
Now, do I have to prove
why he willfully failed
638
00:35:04,403 --> 00:35:06,436
To appear in court?
No, of course not.
639
00:35:06,538 --> 00:35:07,704
Because he didn't.
640
00:35:07,806 --> 00:35:08,939
-We don't --
-and that's why --
641
00:35:09,041 --> 00:35:10,340
I'm talking here!
642
00:35:10,442 --> 00:35:12,909
Bryant: In this case,
you've got a relatively young
643
00:35:13,011 --> 00:35:14,077
Defense attorney.
644
00:35:14,213 --> 00:35:17,247
And on the other side
a more experienced prosecutor.
645
00:35:17,349 --> 00:35:19,683
So it's time to go at it.
646
00:35:19,785 --> 00:35:21,084
And if he's got
a problem with it,
647
00:35:21,186 --> 00:35:25,655
He can file a motion to rule
this as unconstitutional.
648
00:35:25,757 --> 00:35:27,224
I'm sorry if mr. Fleck is
arguing things
649
00:35:27,326 --> 00:35:29,659
That he doesn't know --
mr. Fleck is arguing --
650
00:35:29,761 --> 00:35:31,995
I'm arguing things
I don't know?
651
00:35:32,097 --> 00:35:34,664
I've forgotten more than you
will ever know, buddy boy.
652
00:35:34,766 --> 00:35:35,665
Mclaughlin: Mr. Fleck.
653
00:35:35,767 --> 00:35:37,634
Narrator: Coming up,
the childish behavior
654
00:35:37,736 --> 00:35:40,036
Goes from bad to worse.
655
00:35:40,139 --> 00:35:42,339
For the record,
I think this is bull[bleep].
656
00:35:46,912 --> 00:35:49,112
And that's why --
I'm talking here!
657
00:35:49,214 --> 00:35:51,581
Narrator: A veteran prosecutor
and a young attorney,
658
00:35:51,683 --> 00:35:54,818
Are sparring in court
over a simple dui case.
659
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:56,820
I'm arguing things
I don't know?!
660
00:35:56,922 --> 00:35:58,088
-I've forgotten more than
-mr. Fleck.
661
00:35:58,190 --> 00:36:00,023
You will ever know, buddy boy.
-Mr. Fleck.
662
00:36:00,092 --> 00:36:02,926
Prosecutors
and defense attorneys have
663
00:36:03,028 --> 00:36:04,794
Intense competition.
664
00:36:04,897 --> 00:36:07,030
It's no different
than the nba.
665
00:36:07,132 --> 00:36:09,199
You're either playing
offense or you're defense,
666
00:36:09,301 --> 00:36:10,934
And you're going to
want to win,
667
00:36:11,036 --> 00:36:13,370
Regardless of what side
you're on,
668
00:36:13,472 --> 00:36:16,273
But you have to keep
it professional,
669
00:36:16,375 --> 00:36:18,208
And you have to keep it
under wraps just
670
00:36:18,310 --> 00:36:22,245
By the very nature
of the law you practice.
671
00:36:22,347 --> 00:36:23,446
I object to that!
672
00:36:23,549 --> 00:36:26,349
I -- I take great umbrage of
somebody coming in here
673
00:36:26,451 --> 00:36:28,552
And trying to disparage
my knowledge
674
00:36:28,654 --> 00:36:31,488
And my reputation when he is
still wet behind the ears.
675
00:36:31,590 --> 00:36:33,523
-Mr. Fleck, have a seat.
-...On this planet.
676
00:36:33,625 --> 00:36:35,392
Okay, have a seat.
Thank you very much.
677
00:36:35,494 --> 00:36:37,594
All right, we're gonna
recess until one o'clock.
678
00:36:37,696 --> 00:36:38,628
We'll see you back
at one o'clock.
679
00:36:38,730 --> 00:36:40,697
And the judge, at that point,
had had it.
680
00:36:40,799 --> 00:36:42,432
She's like, okay,
we need to take a break.
681
00:36:42,534 --> 00:36:45,535
But there's a whole 'nother
wrinkle here with mr. Fleck.
682
00:36:45,637 --> 00:36:47,437
Seems he was going
to have lunch
683
00:36:47,539 --> 00:36:50,140
With his 83-year-old mother.
684
00:36:50,242 --> 00:36:51,841
You want me to call
my mom and tell her
685
00:36:51,944 --> 00:36:53,510
I'm gonna
stand her up for lunch
686
00:36:53,612 --> 00:36:56,112
Because of mr. Mcallister?
687
00:36:56,215 --> 00:36:57,814
You're gonna make me
stand up my own mother,
688
00:36:57,916 --> 00:37:01,117
My 83-year-old mother, who's
waiting at a restaurant for me
689
00:37:01,220 --> 00:37:02,352
To show up?
690
00:37:02,454 --> 00:37:03,820
Whitmore: And the judge is like,
"we need to take a break,
691
00:37:03,922 --> 00:37:05,655
Who, whoa, whoa,"
and he's --
692
00:37:05,757 --> 00:37:07,691
I need to have lunch
with my mommy.
693
00:37:07,793 --> 00:37:11,595
In this case, it seemed
to get very personal for
694
00:37:11,697 --> 00:37:12,729
The prosecutor,
695
00:37:12,831 --> 00:37:16,233
And he lost total control
in this situation.
696
00:37:16,335 --> 00:37:18,835
For the record,
I think this is bull[bleep].
697
00:37:18,937 --> 00:37:21,104
We'll start when you are
back here,
698
00:37:21,206 --> 00:37:22,572
So enjoy your lunch
with your mother.
699
00:37:22,674 --> 00:37:24,808
So they break for lunch,
and they come back,
700
00:37:24,910 --> 00:37:28,245
And by this time, mr. Fleck,
he -- he has calmed a bit,
701
00:37:28,347 --> 00:37:30,280
And he's realized that
he needs to apologize
702
00:37:30,382 --> 00:37:31,648
To the court.
703
00:37:31,750 --> 00:37:33,583
Mr. Fleck, did you want
to make a statement?
704
00:37:33,685 --> 00:37:36,286
I'd like to apologize
for my outburst.
705
00:37:36,388 --> 00:37:41,057
I think I was being needled
by counsel incessantly,
706
00:37:41,159 --> 00:37:44,027
And the very thought of me
standing up my mother --
707
00:37:44,129 --> 00:37:45,161
Let me stop you right there.
708
00:37:45,264 --> 00:37:46,563
The judge steps in
again and says,
709
00:37:46,665 --> 00:37:48,932
"either say you're sorry,
or don't say you're sorry."
710
00:37:49,034 --> 00:37:50,867
I would apologize
for my behavior,
711
00:37:50,969 --> 00:37:56,706
My outburst, um, the thought
of my mother being stood up
712
00:37:56,808 --> 00:37:58,975
For lunch, I had no way
to get a hold of her.
713
00:37:59,077 --> 00:38:00,343
She does not have
a cellphone,
714
00:38:00,445 --> 00:38:03,113
Deeply apologetic for
what I said and did.
715
00:38:03,215 --> 00:38:04,547
In this situation,
716
00:38:04,650 --> 00:38:06,316
The judge didn't
hold him in contempt.
717
00:38:06,418 --> 00:38:08,985
The judge didn't put him in
jail, because we can do that,
718
00:38:09,087 --> 00:38:13,690
But instead, his bosses said,
"enough is enough."
719
00:38:13,792 --> 00:38:17,727
Rendelman: The prosecutor's
office actually fires mr. Fleck
720
00:38:17,829 --> 00:38:20,697
Because of
his unprofessional conduct.
721
00:38:20,799 --> 00:38:23,700
And lo and behold,
what does mr. Fleck become?
722
00:38:23,802 --> 00:38:26,369
He becomes a criminal
defense attorney.
723
00:38:26,471 --> 00:38:27,570
I think this is bull[bleep].
724
00:38:27,673 --> 00:38:33,943
♪♪
725
00:38:34,046 --> 00:38:36,012
Narrator:
In chehalis, washington,
726
00:38:36,114 --> 00:38:39,182
28-year-old kodey howard
and 22-year-old
727
00:38:39,284 --> 00:38:41,484
Tanner jacobson
are at a bail hearing
728
00:38:41,586 --> 00:38:43,887
In judge r. W. Buzzard's
courtroom.
729
00:38:43,989 --> 00:38:45,455
Howard is facing charges
730
00:38:45,557 --> 00:38:48,158
Of burglary and trafficking
in stolen property.
731
00:38:48,260 --> 00:38:50,660
Jacobson is arrested
for reckless driving
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And operating a vehicle
with a suspended license.
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The courtroom is
really pretty quiet.
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You've got the attorneys
on each side.
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You've got the judge,
you got a clerk,
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You've got a bailiff,
and you have a few inmates.
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And you have these two
individuals that are being
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Accused of misdemeanors,
not felonies,
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Not murders,
but two misdemeanors.
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Narrator:
Also in the courtroom
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Are two other inmates who have
just appeared before
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Judge buzzard.
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It was my birthday, and, yeah,
it was very normal day.
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Every day at, uh, the same time,
we see in-custody inmates
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That have been picked up
or arrested the day before.
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Bove: But all of a sudden,
one guy jumps up,
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Bolts, and his buddy
sitting next to him
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Says, "well, if he's gonna
go, I might as well go."
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The first thing I think to
myself is this really can't be
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Happening,
and then the second thing
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As they reach the public
doorway is I sure hope
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They don't hurt anyone as they
try and get out of here.
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Neither of these defendants
are there for serious charges.
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So one could only guess
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What is in the mind of
these two individuals.
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The judge had to do
something to stop him.
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Buzzard: I thought it was
necessary for them to be
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At least pursued to find out
where they were going.
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Dawson: So just like clark kent
turning into superman,
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This judge decides to rip off
his robe and run after
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The defendants.
-Buzzard: I took my robe off
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Because they are hard
to maneuver in.
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I just wanted to get them.
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You can see the two
individuals running,
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And as they're running,
one of them actually
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Trips, um, and loses what --
it's almost like
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A cinderella moment.
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He loses one of his shoes
and then keeps on going.
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Bryant: These two guys are
working their way down
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The stairwell.
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As I was running after them
down the stairs,
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All I was thinking was,
I hope they stop.
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I hope they don't run
into anyone.
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I hope they don't hurt
anyone going down
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The stairs or out
into the public area.
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It's pretty unusual,
but I have to
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Give him credit
because he was pretty fast.
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Bryant: One of them
makes it outside,
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And the judge makes
his last-ditch effort.
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In true superman fashion,
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The judge decided to make that
last-minute leap, as he lunged
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At the defendant to make sure
he didn't make it out the door.
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Buzzard: I was in arm's reach
of mr. Howard,
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Reached out to kind of stop
his progress, and grabbed him in
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A bear hug
and tumbled out the door.
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Bryant: The second guy
does not evade
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The long arm
of the law this time.
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One of the funniest parts of
this story is that
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The first guy runs,
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Gets a couple blocks, and then
realizes he's in prison garb
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With handcuffs
and has nowhere to go.
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After four short blocks,
tanner has an epiphany.
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You know,
he realizes I'm an idiot.
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I should not be doing this.
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I am not helping myself,
and he basically
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Gives up and is taken
back into custody.
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Here's two guys who had
misdemeanor charges,
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Charges where it would be more
than likely they would have
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Walked out themselves from
the courtroom, and instead,
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Because of their absolutely
stupid, ridiculous behavior,
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End up with additional
felony charges.
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Narrator: After the incident,
tanner jacobson
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Is sentenced to one year
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And one day for a single count
of second-degree escape.
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Kodey howard's punishment
for bolting?
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He gets an additional
36 months
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Behind bars, along with
his original charges.
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The way it worked out
for judge buzzard,
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He comes off as a hero.
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But, you know,
it could have ended badly.
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Buzzard: My colleagues
and co-employees'
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Reaction to my reaction of
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Chasing them
was from good job to
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What in the world
were you thinking?
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Now that's determination,
and that's called
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Keeping the chaos
out of your courtroom.
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