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>>DAVID WILCOCK: Hello, andwelcome to Cosmic Disclosure.
I'm your host, David Wilcock, and we
are having in-depth discussionswith a secret space program
insider named Corey Goode.
There's a lot of laughter aroundthis subject, a lot of people
who think that this is something they
can ridicule on the internet.
But if you've been watching our show,
I think it will become clear to you
that we are not dealing with something
that is easily dismissed.
Granted, we don't have all the documents yet.
We don't have the degree of proof
that some people would want.
But when you start to talk toas many different insiders as I
have, who have cosmic top-secret clearance
and above-- and that means 35 levels
above the need-to-know basisfor the President of the United
States of America-- thesepeople have come forward
as whistleblowers, and theyall start sharing with me,
because I've sought themout, very specific things.
And it all interrelates.
It becomes actually more of a stretch
to think that they could all be lying
from a unified body of liesthan that they're actually
describing something that's true.
In this episode, we're going togo into the discussion of time,
and how our physics will need to be altered based
on what we have encountered.
So without further ado, Corey,thank you for being here.
Welcome to the show.
>>COREY GOODE: Thank you.
>>DAVID: All right.
Now let's get right into some hard insider data.
One of the things thatfascinated people the most
about my insider testimony whenit first started coming out
online was what I shared fromthis insider named Daniel
who claims to have worked on what most people call
the Montauk Project, butwhat he called Phoenix III.
What he said was that ourmilitary industrial complex had
procured a seat from acrashed extraterrestrial disk
and that the seat itself actedas a consciousness interface.
And someone could sit in theseat, put their head back,
and then there were 22 base waveforms
that would be the energeticfield of the person
that they would measure.
And you would go to whatthey called the quiet point,
a stillness in your mind.
Then they would have tozero out the chair, which
means once these 22 sine waves stop jiggling
and you can get them to stay still,
then they would individuallytweak the knobs on each one
and make them flat lines.
And at that point, so he wastold and so he experienced,
a lot of weird things could happen.
For example, you could think about an object.
And the energy that this chair would
harness that they had to createa very specific frequency
with these huge transformers, you
could manifest that object in the room.
And he also said that if you thought
about a particular placethat this sort of shimmery
mirage thing would appear,and you would see that place
through the mirage.
And they could actuallysend people through that,
and they would travel there.
He also said that this wasstandard design for seats
in UFO-type craft and that thepilot would think about where
they want to go, and it just pops open a hole
and they fly through, and they go.
So before we get into all thedeeper stuff that he said,
anything that I've just told you,
does that line up with stuff that you've heard?
>>GOODE: Mm-hmm.
>>DAVID: OK.
Could you give some specifics on that, then?
>>GOODE: Well the chair, the chairs very much.
So the consciousnessinterface with the chairs.
There were chairs that we were put in in the MILAB
Project when I was a child thatthe intuitive empaths were put
in, that they would put usin and-- you mentioned the 22
waves that they would try to get us to go
into-- in a negative way, we were
being trained to be enabled on command
to go into different statesof consciousness that
were measurable.
And--
>>DAVID: How is that negative?
I'm not sure I understand.
>>GOODE: Negative reinforcement ways.
>>DAVID: Oh, like electroshocktorture kind of stuff?
>>GOODE: Electro-- yeah.
They were putting us in these chairs
that were ET chairs from craft.
And they were trying to see which
of us could change the wave, certain waves,
in it most proficiently.
>>DAVID: Really?
>>GOODE: Yeah.
I find that very interesting.
Now we weren't manifestingthings in the room
or looking at other locationsand that kind of stuff.
But they were using that device that
was a chair out of an ET craft to have
us-- to test us to see whichof us, through interfacing
with this chair, could changecertain waves on command.
>>DAVID: He was also broughtinto some sort of training
for what they called apparently the Psi
Corps, like a corps of the military that
was psychic-based.
And one of the basic things thatthey wanted him to learn to do
was to go to what they calledthe quiet point in yourself.
Did you ever hear that term?
>>GOODE: Yeah.
>>DAVID: What was your understanding
of the quiet point training?
What is supposed to be done?
What's the objective?
>>GOODE: When you reach--I think it's deep theta.
That is when you're leastconscious of your body,
least conscious of your surroundings,
and more in contact with I guess what
we call our higher self, and more
in a higher consciousness state.
And all other thoughts-- noother thoughts enter your mind.
You don't think about I'm cold, you
know, what am I going to eat later,
my nose itches, this seat's uncomfortable,
this texture of this pair ofpants feels weird on my leg.
I mean you're having no thought.
And people say having no thoughts is impossible,
getting your-- training yourselfto be at a point of being
conscious but having no thoughtis where they wanted you to go.
That's the best way I can describe it.
>>DAVID: Pursuant to my original question,
did you also encounter information
suggesting that the seat within a craft
has an interfacing capabilitythat would allow you to will
open a portal that couldtake you to another space
or even time?
>>GOODE: Yes.
That's-- later on, I found outthat that was how these craft
operated.
It was completely consciousness-driven.
And most of these beings worea headband, sat in these craft,
and either wore a headband orsat with their hands on a panel
and just like higher-densitybeings thought of a place
they wanted to go, andthe craft would phase out
of this location andphase in to that location.
>>DAVID: Would this travelsort of automatically-- hop
through the cosmic webthat you were describing?
>>GOODE: No.
This is more of not only-- we'vetalked about how everything
is vibration.
Everything has a vibrational signature.
Every solar system, every planet,
every location of a planet, hasits own vibrational signature.
And consciously, if you thinkof that place and that place's
vibrational signature, and you can
change your entire vibrational signature
of what you're sitting in and what
you are to match that vibrational signature.
The universe is holographic, basically.
Then you phase out andre-phase in at that location.
>>DAVID: Now in--
>>GOODE: Does that make sense?
>>DAVID: Yeah.
In the Carlos Castaneda books,Don Juan, the original shaman,
apparently there is a real guy named Cachora,
and he's still around.
Cachora said-- and this does appear
to be real-- that some of these shamans
can learn to teleport themselves.
And the way they do it is if youcan have an out of body astral
travel type experience and then consolidate
a particular location strongly enough where
you keep it completelystable, and it doesn't shift,
and it doesn't flux, that once you can really
hold and consolidate that newlocation consciousness-wise,
that you actually jump there.
>>GOODE: Yeah.
>>DAVID: So it does work that way?
>>GOODE: That's how a lot of--some beings travel that way.
>>DAVID: Hmm.
>>GOODE: Yeah.
They send their-- we callit astral projecting.
Or they send their consciousness there.
They see the surroundings.
They recon where they're proposing to go.
They gauge the vibration of that area.
And then they report that vibration back
to their conscious body, and the conscious body
changes its vibration and phasesout of where it was and comes
to the location of where their consciousness is.
>>DAVID: So is the chair within a craft sort
of a technological assistto that process that
enhances your natural ability?
>>GOODE: Yes.
Some of these ETs have found a way to cheat,
to be able to do what some of the more
ascended or higher-density beings
do to travel and get around.
>>DAVID: So the chair sort of enhances
their own native ability.
>>GOODE: Right.
Consciousness.
>>DAVID: Well I want to get tothe core of why I brought this
all up, which is the time stuff.
Daniel had direct knowledgeof people in the Phoenix III
program.
There was one guy in particularwho was a little crazy,
more than a little, said--because they figured out
that these portals that they were creating,
first they thought it was only space travel,
then they realized that you could
go to different points in time just by thinking
about where you want to go.
So this crazy guy, he goes and he says,
I'm going to kill my father.
Because they figure outthey can go back in time.
>>GOODE: Yep.
>>DAVID: And have you heardabout this particular story?
>>GOODE: I've heard of this paradox, yes.
>>DAVID: OK.
So instead of me talking, why don't you
describe what would happen, or what
are some of thehistorical cases of people
trying to do weird stufflike this, and what happened.
>>GOODE: From what I read on the glass pad,
one of the major reasons that they put buffers
on this temporal technology isthat some of this time travel
experiment and technologygot extremely out of hand.
People were traveling back in time,
deciding that if they killed one person,
it would change the timeline.
These people would end up coming back and being
on the timeline they created.
And it was creating all theseschisms and split timelines.
And then they were sending people
to go back and prevent it and fix it,
and it was causing even more and more problems,
and more and more timeline splits
to where there were all kinds of fragmentations,
and it was just way out of hand.
And they started getting visitations
from very advanced ET groups saying enough.
You guys have got to stop.
And it was also explained thattime is very much an illusion,
that just as they wereusing consciousness, that
was a key component, they were using consciousness
in that chair to manifestthings, which is something
that we do with our mass consciousness every day.
We're manifesting our reality.
>>DAVID: Right.
>>GOODE: This ability to use this device,
to use theirconsciousness, to go back
to this timeline, this timelinethat these people are going
back to, it was based on this one person's
consciousness, and the polarity of that person,
how positive they were andhow negative they were.
And the same thing with the people
that were traveling into the future.
People that weretraveling into the future,
if they were of a negative polarity cabal group,
they were traveling into the future
and seeing oh, there was this huge cataclysm.
The rotation of the Earthchanged on its axis.
90% of the earth died.
All these horrible things happened.
And then they would come back and report.
And more positive people would do time travel,
and they would see a glorious future.
Well if the technology is sound and you
have multiple people of different, I guess,
positive or negative polarities that
are doing these time travels, what
does that tell you about time?
>>DAVID: That's an interesting point.
>>GOODE: The ETs told us to stop-- back
then-- to stop trying to repairall these schisms and timeline
problems because that justlike space, time is elastic.
And that just like if you havea highly-- just like a torsion
field, you twist space.
You remove the torsion field, space
is going to snap right back.
You screw around with time,time is going to repair itself.
It's going to snap back.
And the scientists had ahard time believing that.
They could not believethat time was an illusion
and was something that was goingto snap back and repair itself,
and that it was-- time was a major component
of consciousness.
>>DAVID: It would appear that if we go back
in time in our own history, there's
the legend of fairy rings, whereyou have a circle which appears
to be a crop circle, andpeople could walk into these
and they'd meet people thatlooked different-- elves,
gnomes, leprechauns, dwarfs, fairies--
and one of the legends was thatif you go into a fairy ring,
you have to go out thesame way that you went in,
or else you will time travel.
What are these fairy rings, and how does this
relate to what we've been talking about?
Did you hear anything about them?
>>GOODE: I did not hear anything about them.
But it sounds very similarto these federation meetings
happen inside of a temporalanomaly or a temporal bubble.
And just like you described, you come
in-- you have to leave thesame trajectory you come in.
>>DAVID: Oh, really.
>>GOODE: So these fairy rings may
have been some sort of ET temporal bubble
that they had there toobserve something going on.
And if a person walked into it and got
stuck in this temporal bubble,that if they didn't leave out
the same way they came in, they would get
stuck in for hundreds of years.
And to them, it might've beenminutes, like the Rip Van
Winkle kind of thing.
>>DAVID: One of things that Henry Deacon shared
with me was that time is actually sloppy,
that time hiccups and makes jumps,
but that we, somehow with our energetic body,
glue together the glitches in time.
We have a psychological buffer that
makes it appear to havecontinuity, but that there are,
I guess, phase relationships between our solar system
and other stars, or planetaryconjunctions or things
like this, that actually are causing glitches
that we're apparently not at a level
yet where we can detect them.
>>GOODE: That's somewhat true.
>>DAVID: Really.
>>GOODE: Yeah.
And until we learn to-- I mean time
really is a complete illusion.
For us stuck in this reallythird density way of thinking
and consciousness, we're not going to really
be able to understand it.
But time speeds up and slows down all the time,
because of-- the people thatare out there talking about--
was it Nassim?
>>DAVID: Nassim Haramein.
>>GOODE: Haramein.
Some of his information is just great.
>>DAVID: Well viewers on this network can watch
Nassim's video "Black Whole",which was produced by Gaiam--
>>GOODE: Great, that's great.
>>DAVID: And there's alsointerviews with him on here.
>>GOODE: That's great.
>>DAVID: Yeah.
>>GOODE: The electroplasmicuniverse and the torsion
universe, these are themodels that the secret space
program are working off of.
All of these other sciences that people
think are cutting-edge thatare down here that people
are working on are going tobe thrown out the window.
All of these PhDs are going tohave to go back to school when
this information is released.
The true sciences that arebeing suppressed from the people
down here are-- I mean the mathematics to them
is a whole-- there's awhole new mathematics, too.
We're working on a veryarchaic mathematics, physics,
and-- but once we learn to understand
how all these things work,we'll understand things
like why time is alwaysspeeding up and slowing down.
And it has to do with the torsion
effects of the galaxies on eachother, on our solar system,
and on our minds, and how we perceive it.
>>DAVID: Well let me throw this at you.
We were talking about the Montauk chair.
And recently Pete Petersongave me some very fascinating
information where he saidthat on our back, right
in the shoulder blade, there's a dimple there,
and that all the nerves of our bodies
cross over in this one little spot,
and that this appears to besome type of divine intelligence
design.
And he said that these are called ports,
and that many differentextraterrestrials have chairs
that have nubs that youhave to kind of sit into,
and the nub goes right into that little spot
in your shoulder-- you'renodding your head a lot.
>>GOODE: Yeah.
We use them too.
You can download a lot ofinformation through those.
>>DAVID: That's why Ibrought this up because you
said these scientists are goingto have to go back to school.
Pete had said that, forexample, a vision system can
be done through these ports,that a lot of these fighter
jets that we're using now don't have windows,
that you can see through the ports,
and you see in your mind, ithas actual telescopic vision.
And he said that you canactually download information
right into your mind.
>>GOODE: Mm-hmm.
>>DAVID: Have you encounteredanything like that?
>>GOODE: I've used thedownload function of that.
>>DAVID: Through the ports in your shoulder blades?
>>GOODE: Through the dimples-- yeah.
>>DAVID: Wow.
>>GOODE: Yeah.
They've-- yeah.
The download function of information.
>>DAVID: See that's so weird, right?
How could-- this kind ofstuff just blows my mind.
>>GOODE: And also there's so many nerve endings
in your fingers and in your hands.
That's why it hurts so much whenyou hurt your fingers compared
to if you hurt yourself here.
>>DAVID: Yeah.
>>GOODE: A lot of the devices that
are neuro interfacedevices have like a copper
and kind of like a stainless steel
plate that are shaped like a hand
that you put your hands on.
Or they have gloves that you slide
on that have strips and metal inside them.
And that is used for you toneuro- or bio-electrically
interface with craft and other devices as well.
>>DAVID: Did you hear on your own,
independently, that theseports in our shoulder blades
have all the nerves of thebody crossing through them,
that there's like a big intersection there?
>>GOODE: I wasn't told that.
I was-- this was mainlywhen I was in the MILAB era.
We were sat in chairs.
Uncomfortable-- twouncomfortable little nipples,
kind of things poked us in the back.
And we leaned back, and wefelt an electrical sensation
come through the little bumpsthat we were leaning on.
And it would download information to us
to teach us information.
>>DAVID: And that is an example of something
that genuinely happened here.
We'd never talked about this before.
It's a very obscure, specific detail
that you've encountered on your own.
>>GOODE: And I was told that one--
back then they said that one day this was
how everyone will be educated.
>>DAVID: Right.
>>GOODE: Yeah.
>>DAVID: Well we're going to betalking a lot more about time.
There's a lot of other things I want to ask him
because this is a vast subject.
Time travel, time jumps, it's something
that people are really fascinated with.
And we also may get into something
he's talked with me about before,
which is this weird parallel earth.
That's all going to be coming upnext time on Cosmic Disclosure
because you need the truth.
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