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Hello?
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My sister, Patty,
and her husband, Richie,
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started off as a young couple.
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Richie got into
the jewelry business.
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Okay.
Hey, pat.
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Then they worked together,
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and they made a life
for themselves.
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There was happiness in their
life, but there were issues.
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It's okay.
He's downstairs.
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I could sense that there was
always a fear in their life.
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They were always worried
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that they were going
to be attacked or robbed.
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There's not a time that goes by
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that I don't think about
my sister and her husband.
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I wanted justice. I wanted --
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you know, I wanted
to find out who did this.
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Why did they do this?
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I wanted to find out
who killed my sister.
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you've reached pat and rich.
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We're not available
to take your call.
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Leave a message,
and we'll get back to you.
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Mom, dad, it's Michelle.
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it's now 11:30,
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and this is the third time
I've called.
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Can you please, either of you,
call me back when you get this
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so I know you're okay?
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I love you. Bye.
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There was a birthday party
that was supposed to take place.
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Michelle, my niece,
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had invited her parents
to this birthday party.
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They didn't show up,
and it was unusual
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for them not to communicate,
you know,
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'cause Michelle
was close to her mom.
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Michelle didn't hear anything
Saturday or Sunday.
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Michelle was working
as a dispatcher
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for the police department,
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and she asked
the police department
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to do a wellness check
on her parents.
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Hey, it's Michelle.
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Yeah. I got a favor to ask.
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I need you to check
on my parents.
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Unit five, we've got
a request for a welfare check
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at 112 south street, over.
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Sergeant William Britt,
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a 33-year veteran
of Philadelphia homicide,
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is a supervisor
on duty that night.
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I was informed
that the radio dispatcher
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wanted to do a check
on the wellbeing,
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and her supervisor had said,
"come on. Let's go."
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And they notified
the district officers.
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That's the 6th district there.
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gate's open.
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Mr. Zimmerman,
Philadelphia police.
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- The lights are on up there.
- If there was someone up there,
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they had to have heard that.
Come on.
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We got to get up there
and see what's going on.
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Dispatcher, I need a wagon
at 100 block of south street.
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They pulled up onto the pavement
and climbed onto the roof
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and were able to get up
and look in.
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Damn.
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We got a problem here.
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- What is it?
- We got two bodies up here.
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Call it in.
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We got a male, female here
at 112 south street.
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We need a bus.
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Murders come every day,
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but this was society hill.
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It's an affluent area.
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There's a lot
of nightlife, condos.
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You know there's going to be
a lot of questions,
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but we work every murder
the same way.
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Philadelphia homicide detective
Mike Walter from one squad
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is assigned the case.
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He arrives at the zimmermans'
house while sergeant bill britt
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is already processing
the crime scene.
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Looks like they've
been here a while.
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one shot each,
back of the head,
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like a hit maybe.
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Maybe.
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You see the male
sitting at the table.
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I don't think he saw what
was happening when he was shot.
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It was pretty gruesome.
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Victims are Richard
and Patty Zimmerman,
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husband and wife.
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About to sit down to eat.
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Looks like it.
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check this out.
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diamonds...
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In each of them.
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It almost looked like
he had been looking at jewelry
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or stones when he was shot,
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because he was slumped
to the left, his hand was down,
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and there were some
envelopes on the floor.
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A whole lot of money,
lot of money.
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It was troublesome because
there was no forced entry.
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We could not find
anything out of place.
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Nothing appeared to be missing.
And it was,
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"okay. What's the motivation
for this?"
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So what?
So the doer comes in,
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or more likely,
they let him in.
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Mr. Zimmerman's
already at the table.
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Bang.
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Mrs. Zimmerman comes in
from the kitchen
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when she hears the shot.
Then he turns on her. Bang.
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And then what? He just leaves
all the cash, the diamonds,
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everything,
and just walks out?
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Like a hit.
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Like a hit.
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And it was like boom, boom.
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They weren't expecting
this at all.
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Detectives.
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We found one shell casing
from a.45,
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a semi-automatic pistol.
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Now we're
getting somewhere.
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This was like a whodunit,
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and now you know
your work is cut out for you,
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because now you have to
really dissect their lives.
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Come on, Mario.
How many more times
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you going to be taking
pictures like this?
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Enough.
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Patty and Richard Zimmerman
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had lived in Philadelphia
30 years.
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They had two children,
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Michelle and Matthew.
That's my girl.
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Mario ditroia is
Patty's brother.
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Patty was born
Patricia ditroia in 1950.
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Patty was 15 years
older than I.
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She rebelled against my dad,
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so she left
and ran away from home
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when she was about
16, 17 years old.
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People are going to
think I'm wanted
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by the way you're taking
pictures of me like that.
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After she left, Patty met
Richie, started a little family,
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and started their
jewelry business,
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and she made a good life
for herself.
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Hi.
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Patty seemed very happy
at that stage in her life.
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Beautiful,
absolutely beautiful.
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I mean, she really
had a good life.
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Stop.
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as the sun rises over
society hill the next morning,
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detectives ratchet up
their investigation.
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The first order of business
was to start doing interviews,
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talk to the family,
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and get a clearer picture
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of Richard and Patricia's life.
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Any witnesses?
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No, nothing.
The daughter's here,
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the one that called
about the welfare check.
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Okay.
Which one is she?
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There.
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We want to find out
from the daughter, Michelle,
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when the last time
they spoke to them?
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What's their everyday life like?
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Did they have any enemies?
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When you last spoke
with your parents,
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did they mention having
any trouble with anybody?
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Not recently.
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I mean, they had some
tough times in the past,
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but they were tough people.
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Is there anyone else
in your family,
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anyone we got to
get in touch with?
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Yeah, Matthew, my brother.
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And, obviously, we need
to talk to the son.
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The mom and dad are dead,
unexplained.
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Where is he?
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Is he possibly dead, too?
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I'll try and find him,
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let him know
you want to talk to him.
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A few hours after
police speak with Michelle,
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her brother, Matthew, shows up
at police headquarters.
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You got any idea
who'd want to do this?
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Your mom and dad, they got
any beefs with anybody?
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Man, I got no idea.
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He's like, "I have nothing
to do with my mom and dad.
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I was on my own
since I was 17 years old.
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They threw me out of the house.
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I don't even know
where they live at."
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Still, I'm sure
that's a blow,
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both your parents
going that way.
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Like I said,
we weren't close.
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He wasn't upset.
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He just was, like, blank.
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Matt, where were you
this weekend?
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I was up in Kensington, a couple
buddies, helping them move.
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You can ask them
if you'd like.
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And he was with them, you know,
the entire time of the weekend.
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And gave US the names
of the individuals,
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and, you know, then
we're going to follow up.
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Investigators visit
Matthew's neighborhood
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in the Kensington section
of Philadelphia,
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five miles from society hill
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and a world away.
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His friend, Tammy,
is easy to find.
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New digs?
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Yeah. Still moving,
as you can see.
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So, did Matt help you
with all this this weekend?
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Um...no.
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He was supposed to show up
Friday night.
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We waited and waited.
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He didn't show.
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We ended up
doing it all ourselves.
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When they asked him,
you know, "yo, what's up?
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Why didn't you come
and help US move?"
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He's like, "I got lost.
You know, I couldn't find it."
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Hard work, like moving,
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it's not Matt's thing.
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So when did he get here?
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On Saturday.
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Then he was with US
the rest of the weekend.
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All weekend?
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Yeah, until Tuesday.
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His friend, Richie,
came by around noon that day
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and told him about
his parents being dead.
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How'd he seem?
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He didn't show any emotion,
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but that's just Matthew.
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So, walking away
from that interview,
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now Matthew's
offering up an alibi,
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and they're saying,
"no, that's not true,"
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he's lying to US
about his whereabouts,
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and why?
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Hoping to find
an angle to work,
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detective Walter runs a
background check into Matthew.
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Looks like this kid's been
a guest of the city a few times.
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His record wasn't extraordinary.
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He had some contacts
with law enforcement,
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but it was nothing
that told US
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that this guy is wreaking havoc
on the city of Philadelphia.
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Until they have something
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much more incriminating
against Matthew,
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investigators have to pursue
other leads in the case,
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and a solid one
quickly materializes.
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Got the file on the zimmermans.
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This isn't the first time
somebody's taken a shot at them.
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1994.
Robbery, kidnapping.
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The guy who did this
is about to be retried,
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and the star witnesses --
Patty and Richard Zimmerman.
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Before I was in homicide,
I handled a robbery
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and a kidnapping and a shooting
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of Richard
and Patricia Zimmerman.
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And Richard was shot,
Patricia was kidnapped.
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They were going
to retry the individuals
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that committed the crime
against the zimmermans,
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so this could be a motive.
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They want to silence
the zimmermans
262
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from testifying against them.
263
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264
00:12:36,567 --> 00:12:38,832
it's been less than 24 hours
265
00:12:38,867 --> 00:12:41,367
since Patty and Richard
Zimmerman were found dead
266
00:12:41,402 --> 00:12:43,032
in their Philadelphia townhouse.
267
00:12:43,067 --> 00:12:44,327
People are going
to think I'm wanted
268
00:12:44,333 --> 00:12:46,673
by the way you're taking
pictures of me like that.
269
00:12:46,708 --> 00:12:48,897
As detectives
dig into their past,
270
00:12:48,900 --> 00:12:50,730
they learn this was not
the first time
271
00:12:50,733 --> 00:12:52,851
the couple had been targeted.
272
00:12:52,886 --> 00:12:54,970
Patty and Richie were attacked
273
00:12:55,005 --> 00:12:57,032
a few years before
274
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they were finally killed.
275
00:13:00,700 --> 00:13:03,530
As they were leaving one
of their business locations,
276
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they were accosted,
and Richie was shot in the leg.
277
00:13:08,108 --> 00:13:10,697
They almost blew
Richie's leg off.
278
00:13:10,700 --> 00:13:12,665
My sister was abducted.
279
00:13:12,700 --> 00:13:14,463
I remember my sister telling me
280
00:13:14,498 --> 00:13:16,227
that they ripped
her earrings out,
281
00:13:16,233 --> 00:13:19,666
then they, you know,
drove her around, and...
282
00:13:19,701 --> 00:13:23,100
They finally dumped her out
in front of a church.
283
00:13:25,500 --> 00:13:27,530
Philadelphia police
had apprehended
284
00:13:27,533 --> 00:13:29,800
only one
of the three kidnappers,
285
00:13:29,835 --> 00:13:32,032
an ex-con named Gregory Hughes,
286
00:13:32,067 --> 00:13:34,827
who is now back in jail
with a different charge.
287
00:13:34,833 --> 00:13:37,273
His first trial for the attack
on the zimmermans
288
00:13:37,308 --> 00:13:39,332
ended in a hung jury,
289
00:13:39,367 --> 00:13:42,327
and the retrial is scheduled
a few short weeks away
290
00:13:42,333 --> 00:13:46,503
with the star witnesses,
Patricia and Richard Zimmerman,
291
00:13:46,538 --> 00:13:47,832
making Gregory Hughes
292
00:13:47,867 --> 00:13:51,267
one of investigators' first
suspects in their murders.
293
00:13:51,302 --> 00:13:53,427
If Gregory Hughes
was a defendant
294
00:13:53,433 --> 00:13:57,703
in a case where Richard
and/or Patricia Zimmerman
295
00:13:57,738 --> 00:14:00,032
would be testifying against him,
296
00:14:00,067 --> 00:14:04,867
that person would have a motive
to eliminate the witnesses.
297
00:14:04,902 --> 00:14:06,727
They're dead?
298
00:14:06,733 --> 00:14:08,673
- Both of them?
- That's right, Greg.
299
00:14:08,708 --> 00:14:10,832
- They're dead.
- Damn.
300
00:14:10,867 --> 00:14:12,697
Two main witnesses
against you,
301
00:14:12,700 --> 00:14:15,130
and they're killed right
before you head back to trail.
302
00:14:15,133 --> 00:14:16,698
Talk about luck?
303
00:14:16,733 --> 00:14:18,673
You called someone
from the outside.
304
00:14:18,708 --> 00:14:20,397
You called in a favor.
305
00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:22,570
Man, you see me?
You see where I am?
306
00:14:22,605 --> 00:14:24,427
It look like
I can order a hit?
307
00:14:24,433 --> 00:14:26,265
What you think,
I'm John gotti?
308
00:14:26,300 --> 00:14:28,097
Nah, man.
It don't work like that.
309
00:14:28,100 --> 00:14:30,570
He lit up.
It's like, "no, no, no, no.
310
00:14:30,605 --> 00:14:33,797
I had nothing to do
with their murders.
311
00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:37,330
Even if I wanted to,
I don't have the ability to."
312
00:14:37,333 --> 00:14:39,073
Listen, man.
You know just as well as I do
313
00:14:39,108 --> 00:14:40,397
that them people
already testified
314
00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,032
against me
in the first trial.
315
00:14:42,067 --> 00:14:44,127
They just going to read
that back in the next trial.
316
00:14:44,133 --> 00:14:46,433
Wiping them people out
ain't gon' save me.
317
00:14:46,468 --> 00:14:48,598
In talking to him, he knew that,
318
00:14:48,633 --> 00:14:51,665
from the first trial,
even if they were murdered,
319
00:14:51,700 --> 00:14:54,830
it wasn't going to prevent
their testimony from coming in.
320
00:14:54,833 --> 00:14:57,500
We never found anything
that, you know,
321
00:14:57,535 --> 00:14:59,601
whether it was
prison correspondence
322
00:14:59,636 --> 00:15:01,632
or phone calls
or anything like that,
323
00:15:01,667 --> 00:15:04,667
that he was soliciting
help from the outside.
324
00:15:04,702 --> 00:15:06,532
Yo, listen.
325
00:15:06,567 --> 00:15:09,427
Those people know the business
they're playing in.
326
00:15:09,433 --> 00:15:12,832
You got the gold,
you're the target.
327
00:15:12,867 --> 00:15:16,267
Although Hughes may not have
had the zimmermans killed,
328
00:15:16,302 --> 00:15:20,467
the crime he's accused of had
a lasting impact on the couple.
329
00:15:20,502 --> 00:15:27,127
330
00:15:27,133 --> 00:15:28,532
they changed their habits.
331
00:15:28,567 --> 00:15:31,567
They had a storefront on
south street that they closed.
332
00:15:31,602 --> 00:15:34,397
Both had purchased guns
and had them registered,
333
00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:36,663
and then they went
a step further.
334
00:15:36,698 --> 00:15:38,927
The zimmermans
actually installed
335
00:15:38,933 --> 00:15:41,032
their own security system.
336
00:15:41,067 --> 00:15:42,767
You would have to call him
and say,
337
00:15:42,802 --> 00:15:45,032
"hey, I want to come down,
338
00:15:45,067 --> 00:15:46,897
and I want to buy,
you know, a chain,"
339
00:15:46,900 --> 00:15:50,200
or, "I need you to fix
my diamond ring," or whatnot.
340
00:15:50,235 --> 00:15:52,317
Yeah, 8:00 is good.
341
00:15:52,352 --> 00:15:54,365
I'll see you then.
342
00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,432
When you got down there,
343
00:15:56,467 --> 00:16:00,067
on the other side
of south street,
344
00:16:00,102 --> 00:16:02,397
about 20 yards from them,
345
00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:04,232
was a pay phone,
346
00:16:04,267 --> 00:16:08,097
and they were instructed
to get on that pay phone
347
00:16:08,100 --> 00:16:11,065
and call the house.
348
00:16:11,100 --> 00:16:13,565
- Hello?
- Richard would answer.
349
00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:17,370
He'd look out, see the person
on the pay phone,
350
00:16:17,405 --> 00:16:20,867
and then he would tell
his wife to go down
351
00:16:20,902 --> 00:16:22,427
and allow them to come in.
352
00:16:22,433 --> 00:16:23,798
Hey, pat.
353
00:16:23,833 --> 00:16:26,073
- What is it?
- He's downstairs.
354
00:16:26,108 --> 00:16:27,427
It's okay.
355
00:16:27,433 --> 00:16:31,533
So he knew exactly who was
coming through his door.
356
00:16:31,568 --> 00:16:33,065
You never popped in unannounced.
357
00:16:33,100 --> 00:16:36,198
If you did, they wouldn't
answer the door.
358
00:16:36,233 --> 00:16:39,297
It tells you
that the zimmermans knew,
359
00:16:39,300 --> 00:16:44,300
trusted, and let in,
voluntarily,
360
00:16:44,335 --> 00:16:46,370
the people who murdered them.
361
00:16:46,405 --> 00:16:49,332
362
00:16:49,367 --> 00:16:51,497
six days into the investigation,
363
00:16:51,500 --> 00:16:53,770
detective Walter
calls the crime lab
364
00:16:53,805 --> 00:16:55,927
for any leads from forensics.
365
00:16:58,733 --> 00:17:00,865
Good afternoon, sergeant. Yeah.
366
00:17:00,900 --> 00:17:03,270
I'm just checking in
on those ballistics and prints.
367
00:17:03,305 --> 00:17:05,567
There were two spent
shell casings
368
00:17:05,602 --> 00:17:08,527
that were.45 calibers,
369
00:17:08,533 --> 00:17:12,698
both close to the bodies.
370
00:17:12,733 --> 00:17:15,503
That ballistic evidence told US
that the murder weapon
371
00:17:15,538 --> 00:17:17,230
was a.45 Cal,
372
00:17:17,233 --> 00:17:19,165
and it was an automatic.
373
00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,097
Okay, and the prints?
374
00:17:21,100 --> 00:17:24,415
Unfortunately, there are
no matches to known felons.
375
00:17:24,450 --> 00:17:27,730
It is assumed that the prints
came from customers or clients.
376
00:17:27,733 --> 00:17:29,933
You don't have that smoking gun.
377
00:17:29,968 --> 00:17:32,519
You don't have an eyewitness.
378
00:17:32,554 --> 00:17:35,125
You have to take your time.
379
00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,697
It was a difficult case.
380
00:17:37,700 --> 00:17:39,548
When detectives allow it,
381
00:17:39,583 --> 00:17:41,397
Patty Zimmerman's
brother, Mario,
382
00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:42,830
and daughter Michelle
383
00:17:42,833 --> 00:17:45,583
enter the apartment
for the first time.
384
00:17:45,618 --> 00:17:48,333
The detectives
handed me the keys
385
00:17:48,368 --> 00:17:50,632
and said, "here you go,"
386
00:17:50,667 --> 00:17:53,797
and, you know,
to walk into a place
387
00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:56,070
where your family
members were executed,
388
00:17:56,105 --> 00:17:57,527
it was kind of rough.
389
00:17:57,533 --> 00:18:01,365
390
00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:02,730
are you ready for this?
391
00:18:02,733 --> 00:18:04,903
Michelle, obviously,
didn't know what to expect.
392
00:18:04,938 --> 00:18:06,365
Yes.
393
00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,830
You walk into a home where your
sister and her husband lived,
394
00:18:09,833 --> 00:18:12,833
and then you can see
their remains on the ground,
395
00:18:12,868 --> 00:18:15,573
you know, on the floor
of their home.
396
00:18:15,608 --> 00:18:17,832
397
00:18:17,867 --> 00:18:20,197
you know, it hits home.
It's like, "okay.
398
00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:24,170
Well, this is where
my brother-in-law was.
399
00:18:24,205 --> 00:18:27,727
This is where my sister was."
400
00:18:27,733 --> 00:18:29,733
You know, I mean,
I can only imagine
401
00:18:29,768 --> 00:18:32,833
what Michelle was thinking.
402
00:18:32,868 --> 00:18:35,032
God.
403
00:18:35,067 --> 00:18:37,032
It's going to be okay.
404
00:18:37,067 --> 00:18:38,727
I'm trying to play
this part of a rock
405
00:18:38,733 --> 00:18:41,403
and being supportive,
and, you know, "hey, look.
406
00:18:41,438 --> 00:18:44,073
You know, we got to get this
cleaned up," and...
407
00:18:44,108 --> 00:18:46,927
It wasn't a pleasant time.
408
00:18:46,933 --> 00:18:49,398
409
00:18:49,433 --> 00:18:52,203
and there is more
unpleasantness in store,
410
00:18:52,238 --> 00:18:54,652
as Mario walks Michelle home
one night.
411
00:18:57,067 --> 00:19:00,827
So, Michelle and I,
we're walking back from dinner,
412
00:19:00,833 --> 00:19:05,073
and, on the sidewalk
in front of her home
413
00:19:05,108 --> 00:19:09,832
was a message
written out in chalk,
414
00:19:09,867 --> 00:19:13,397
big letters that said,
"I'm sorry. Please forgive me."
415
00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:17,730
Detective Walter
records the disturbing event.
416
00:19:17,733 --> 00:19:19,265
Michelle, she was nervous.
417
00:19:19,300 --> 00:19:23,165
It was obviously a message
that was sent to her.
418
00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,070
She was afraid that whomever
may have killed her parents
419
00:19:26,105 --> 00:19:29,297
may be, you know,
out to get her.
420
00:19:29,300 --> 00:19:33,830
We tried to review
security tapes in the area
421
00:19:33,833 --> 00:19:37,533
to see if we could see who was
responsible for writing that,
422
00:19:37,568 --> 00:19:40,133
and that was a dead end.
423
00:19:40,168 --> 00:19:44,898
424
00:19:44,933 --> 00:19:46,873
but Michelle
soon offers detectives
425
00:19:46,908 --> 00:19:49,527
a possible lead
in her parents' murders.
426
00:19:49,533 --> 00:19:52,773
- She said, "there's a jeweler.
- He goes by Nick the Greek."
427
00:19:52,808 --> 00:19:55,597
Nick the Greek was
operating a jewelry business
428
00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:57,430
at her father's old storefront,
429
00:19:57,433 --> 00:20:00,703
and he was moving
to evict Nick the Greek.
430
00:20:00,738 --> 00:20:03,000
They had a few
arguments over that,
431
00:20:03,035 --> 00:20:05,430
and they had a falling out.
432
00:20:05,433 --> 00:20:07,773
So then we have to talk
to Nick the Greek.
433
00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:15,074
434
00:20:19,300 --> 00:20:20,665
Philadelphia detectives
435
00:20:20,700 --> 00:20:23,500
searching for Richard
and Patty Zimmerman's killer
436
00:20:23,535 --> 00:20:25,730
have a new suspect
in their sights,
437
00:20:25,733 --> 00:20:28,065
a business associate
named Nick the Greek
438
00:20:28,100 --> 00:20:31,770
who works out of a storefront
the zimmermans had rented out.
439
00:20:31,805 --> 00:20:33,927
The zimmermans owned
two jewelry stores.
440
00:20:33,933 --> 00:20:37,066
Now, the one where
the murders occurred
441
00:20:37,101 --> 00:20:39,635
was an upscale residence
and jewelry store.
442
00:20:39,670 --> 00:20:42,170
Now, the second jewelry store
that they owned
443
00:20:42,205 --> 00:20:44,432
that they were actually
leasing out
444
00:20:44,467 --> 00:20:48,197
was, you know, at front street,
right off of allegheny ave,
445
00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,985
in a very high crime, dark area.
446
00:20:51,020 --> 00:20:53,732
It's a pawn shop, basically.
447
00:20:53,767 --> 00:20:56,597
They're there to buy
stolen jewelry.
448
00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:58,630
449
00:21:00,667 --> 00:21:02,827
myself and detective
Joe bamberski,
450
00:21:02,833 --> 00:21:05,733
we went to do a check
into the jewelry store.
451
00:21:05,768 --> 00:21:08,032
So, you know
the zimmermans?
452
00:21:08,067 --> 00:21:09,497
Know them?
Of course, I know them.
453
00:21:09,500 --> 00:21:11,365
We did business
together for years.
454
00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,230
They had a falling out.
The zimmermans were moving
455
00:21:14,233 --> 00:21:17,098
to evict Nick the Greek
from the store.
456
00:21:17,133 --> 00:21:20,503
Would that lead him to want
to commit a murder
457
00:21:20,538 --> 00:21:24,232
against Mr. and Mrs. Zimmerman?
458
00:21:24,267 --> 00:21:26,267
I heard you had a beef between
you and the zimmermans.
459
00:21:26,302 --> 00:21:27,532
No beef.
460
00:21:27,567 --> 00:21:29,497
He wanted to raise the rent.
I didn't want him to.
461
00:21:29,500 --> 00:21:30,985
That was it,
just a business thing.
462
00:21:31,020 --> 00:21:32,470
Well, I heard
things got heated.
463
00:21:32,505 --> 00:21:34,286
No, it didn't get heated.
464
00:21:34,321 --> 00:21:36,032
It was a negotiation.
465
00:21:36,067 --> 00:21:39,867
He admitted, yes, you know,
it was a business disagreement
466
00:21:39,902 --> 00:21:43,667
but nothing to the point
that he would want to kill them.
467
00:21:43,702 --> 00:21:45,532
Aw, come on.
468
00:21:45,567 --> 00:21:46,832
Well, look.
You know the zimmermans.
469
00:21:46,867 --> 00:21:48,927
You're close to them.
We got to clear you.
470
00:21:48,933 --> 00:21:52,073
And when I was talking
to him, I look past him,
471
00:21:52,108 --> 00:21:54,432
and on this workbench,
472
00:21:54,467 --> 00:21:57,727
there's a.45 caliber pistol.
473
00:21:57,733 --> 00:21:59,373
Is that your.45, Nick?
474
00:21:59,408 --> 00:22:01,067
Yes, it is.
475
00:22:01,102 --> 00:22:04,332
476
00:22:04,367 --> 00:22:06,297
- may I see it?
- And I saw the pistol,
477
00:22:06,300 --> 00:22:08,865
and I was like, "hold on."
478
00:22:08,900 --> 00:22:12,200
We know that the zimmermans
were killed with a.45 auto.
479
00:22:12,235 --> 00:22:14,600
We're not sure if that's
the murder weapon or not.
480
00:22:14,635 --> 00:22:16,617
Look, I deal with cash
and jewelry.
481
00:22:16,652 --> 00:22:18,561
I can't be in here with nothing.
482
00:22:18,596 --> 00:22:20,432
So you got a permit
on this?
483
00:22:20,467 --> 00:22:23,827
Yeah, I got a permit
for it...Somewhere.
484
00:22:23,833 --> 00:22:26,498
485
00:22:26,533 --> 00:22:28,273
why don't you come down
to my office with US,
486
00:22:28,308 --> 00:22:30,767
where we can speak
more comfortably?
487
00:22:30,802 --> 00:22:32,527
It's your world.
488
00:22:32,533 --> 00:22:35,432
489
00:22:35,467 --> 00:22:39,197
if you can find
the motive of a homicide,
490
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,230
then you're on the right track
491
00:22:41,233 --> 00:22:43,773
as finding who the person is
that did that.
492
00:22:43,808 --> 00:22:46,032
He would be allowed
in the house,
493
00:22:46,067 --> 00:22:49,467
and he has business
relations with him,
494
00:22:49,502 --> 00:22:51,567
and we're not
ruling anything out.
495
00:22:51,602 --> 00:22:54,232
Anything's possible here.
496
00:22:54,267 --> 00:22:57,497
We had ballistic testing done,
and it turned out
497
00:22:57,500 --> 00:23:00,170
that it absolutely
did not match.
498
00:23:00,205 --> 00:23:02,227
499
00:23:02,233 --> 00:23:05,803
Nick the Greek just slid
way down on the suspects list,
500
00:23:05,838 --> 00:23:10,470
but there are dozens of
other contacts to investigate.
501
00:23:10,505 --> 00:23:12,697
Mr. Zimmerman kept a logbook,
502
00:23:12,700 --> 00:23:17,430
and in that logbook contained
his business transactions
503
00:23:17,433 --> 00:23:20,803
with his customers, their names
and what was owed
504
00:23:20,838 --> 00:23:23,830
and what was purchased.
505
00:23:23,833 --> 00:23:25,398
You've reached pat and rich.
506
00:23:25,433 --> 00:23:28,401
We're not available to take
your call. Leave a message...
507
00:23:28,436 --> 00:23:31,370
And there were, I would say,
about 15 to 20 phone messages.
508
00:23:31,405 --> 00:23:34,736
We were able
to pretty much backtrack
509
00:23:34,771 --> 00:23:38,032
and find his customers,
his inner circle.
510
00:23:38,067 --> 00:23:40,797
You see the Zimmerman family,
and you think, "my gosh.
511
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,670
You know, wealthy
society hill people."
512
00:23:43,705 --> 00:23:45,697
So that made me wonder,
513
00:23:45,700 --> 00:23:47,930
who buys jewelry
514
00:23:47,933 --> 00:23:50,116
from some guy's
dining room table?
515
00:23:50,151 --> 00:23:52,265
It looks like
they have this life,
516
00:23:52,300 --> 00:23:54,070
but what kind of life
did they really have,
517
00:23:54,105 --> 00:23:57,597
and who wanted them
to be killed?
518
00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:01,330
One of the Zimmerman's business
associates, a man named John,
519
00:24:01,333 --> 00:24:03,581
tells them about
a piece of jewelry
520
00:24:03,616 --> 00:24:05,830
that might be
a motive for murder.
521
00:24:05,833 --> 00:24:08,280
I never saw it myself,
but Richie told me all about it.
522
00:24:08,315 --> 00:24:10,727
He said he bought it from a guy
who couldn't sell it,
523
00:24:10,733 --> 00:24:13,498
you know,
the regular channels.
524
00:24:13,533 --> 00:24:17,803
One of the contacts said,
"I know that rich Zimmerman
525
00:24:17,838 --> 00:24:20,065
had this enormous diamond ring
526
00:24:20,100 --> 00:24:24,200
that he said he had purchased
from a burglar,
527
00:24:24,235 --> 00:24:27,032
and he said it was
his rainy-day fund,
528
00:24:27,067 --> 00:24:29,667
and if he ever needed money,
he could sell this."
529
00:24:29,702 --> 00:24:31,497
So you're saying
it was hot?
530
00:24:31,500 --> 00:24:32,865
I didn't say that.
531
00:24:32,900 --> 00:24:35,932
So maybe he sold it then.
532
00:24:35,967 --> 00:24:39,347
Nah, that ring was the type
of thing he would hang on to.
533
00:24:39,382 --> 00:24:42,727
It was for emergencies, worth
a quarter million dollars.
534
00:24:42,733 --> 00:24:45,903
Look, we didn't find anything
like that at his house.
535
00:24:45,938 --> 00:24:49,073
And that's the thing. Rich
told people he had that ring.
536
00:24:49,108 --> 00:24:52,232
Even people you wouldn't
want to know knew.
537
00:24:52,267 --> 00:24:55,097
So I was thinking maybe someone
came back to the house
538
00:24:55,100 --> 00:24:58,665
for the ring
and bumped off rich and Patty.
539
00:24:58,700 --> 00:25:01,330
All of a sudden, we're like,
"well, wait a minute.
540
00:25:01,333 --> 00:25:04,032
Where's the diamond?"
541
00:25:04,067 --> 00:25:06,427
We didn't find that
at the house.
542
00:25:06,433 --> 00:25:09,932
Is that the reason
why they were murdered?
543
00:25:09,967 --> 00:25:13,227
Detective Walter dives deeper
into the zimmermans' file
544
00:25:13,233 --> 00:25:15,573
for any sign
of the missing ring,
545
00:25:15,608 --> 00:25:17,727
and he hits pay dirt.
546
00:25:17,733 --> 00:25:20,933
We found out that the zimmermans
had safe deposit boxes
547
00:25:20,968 --> 00:25:22,332
spread over three banks,
548
00:25:22,367 --> 00:25:25,097
so we had to get search
warrants for every bank
549
00:25:25,100 --> 00:25:28,600
to go through these
safe deposit boxes.
550
00:25:28,635 --> 00:25:33,830
551
00:25:33,833 --> 00:25:37,453
okay.
552
00:25:37,488 --> 00:25:41,032
553
00:25:41,067 --> 00:25:43,032
- anything?
- Nah.
554
00:25:43,067 --> 00:25:47,147
Old watches,
a couple of silver dollars,
555
00:25:47,182 --> 00:25:51,227
nothing you need
a security deposit box for.
556
00:25:51,233 --> 00:25:53,915
All right.
Let's hit the last one.
557
00:25:53,950 --> 00:25:56,597
- What number was it?
- It's, 107.
558
00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:04,650
559
00:26:04,685 --> 00:26:12,665
560
00:26:12,700 --> 00:26:15,070
does that one feel lucky?
561
00:26:15,105 --> 00:26:22,216
562
00:26:22,251 --> 00:26:29,327
563
00:26:29,333 --> 00:26:32,233
Joe, look at this.
564
00:26:32,268 --> 00:26:41,803
565
00:26:48,867 --> 00:26:51,297
Roughly three weeks after
Richard and Patty Zimmerman
566
00:26:51,300 --> 00:26:54,430
were gunned down in their home,
567
00:26:54,433 --> 00:26:56,333
detectives are
attempting to locate
568
00:26:56,368 --> 00:26:58,532
a missing piece of jewelry
569
00:26:58,567 --> 00:27:02,332
that might've been
the motive for murder.
570
00:27:02,367 --> 00:27:06,332
We found out that the zimmermans
had this big ring.
571
00:27:06,367 --> 00:27:09,767
Myself and detective bamberski,
we had to get search warrants
572
00:27:09,802 --> 00:27:12,627
and go to several banks
573
00:27:12,633 --> 00:27:15,373
to check safety deposit boxes
574
00:27:15,408 --> 00:27:17,127
looking for that ring.
575
00:27:17,133 --> 00:27:22,098
576
00:27:22,133 --> 00:27:24,903
all right.
Does that one feel lucky?
577
00:27:24,938 --> 00:27:27,232
578
00:27:27,267 --> 00:27:29,397
Joe, look at this.
579
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:34,535
580
00:27:39,667 --> 00:27:41,732
And, finally,
581
00:27:41,767 --> 00:27:44,232
we find this big ring,
582
00:27:44,267 --> 00:27:46,497
and it was so big,
it looked fake.
583
00:27:46,500 --> 00:27:48,830
It really -- it was enormous.
584
00:27:48,833 --> 00:27:50,265
Since it was never stolen,
585
00:27:50,300 --> 00:27:53,500
the lavish ring is of little
value to the detectives.
586
00:27:53,535 --> 00:27:55,370
Well, so much for that.
587
00:27:55,405 --> 00:27:56,697
Mark it down?
588
00:27:56,700 --> 00:27:58,330
Mark it down.
589
00:27:58,333 --> 00:28:01,273
Once we found the ring,
that trail was cold.
590
00:28:01,308 --> 00:28:03,327
591
00:28:03,333 --> 00:28:05,573
after working
the Zimmerman case fruitlessly
592
00:28:05,608 --> 00:28:08,227
for almost a month
without interruption,
593
00:28:08,233 --> 00:28:10,803
Philadelphia police
detective Mike Walter
594
00:28:10,838 --> 00:28:12,900
is pulled onto other cases.
595
00:28:16,067 --> 00:28:18,297
- Detective Walter.
- Mike, we got a triple
596
00:28:18,300 --> 00:28:20,470
on the 1700 block
in north Howard.
597
00:28:20,505 --> 00:28:22,127
You're up on this one.
598
00:28:22,133 --> 00:28:24,098
You got it, sarge.
599
00:28:24,133 --> 00:28:26,533
You got a certain window
to spend on a crime
600
00:28:26,568 --> 00:28:28,732
when stuff is really fresh.
601
00:28:28,767 --> 00:28:31,527
If it doesn't get solved,
you're up again.
602
00:28:31,533 --> 00:28:33,973
While investigating
other homicides,
603
00:28:34,008 --> 00:28:35,797
weeks turn into months,
604
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,200
and it seems like
the zimmermans' killer
605
00:28:38,235 --> 00:28:40,530
will get away
with their murders.
606
00:28:40,533 --> 00:28:43,898
607
00:28:43,933 --> 00:28:46,032
that's my girl.
608
00:28:46,067 --> 00:28:48,032
Mario, you spoil
your women like this,
609
00:28:48,067 --> 00:28:49,932
you'll be in good shape.
Don't worry about it.
610
00:28:49,967 --> 00:28:52,367
There was always this question
in the back of our mind --
611
00:28:52,402 --> 00:28:55,267
who did this? Who did this?
Who did this, you know?
612
00:28:55,302 --> 00:28:56,697
And I would always reach out
613
00:28:56,700 --> 00:28:58,730
periodically to
the detectives and say,
614
00:28:58,733 --> 00:29:01,973
"hey, what's going on? What did
you find out? What do you know?
615
00:29:02,008 --> 00:29:04,587
This is my sister
and her husband,
616
00:29:04,622 --> 00:29:07,167
and, you know,
where's justice at?"
617
00:29:07,202 --> 00:29:08,832
That's enough.
618
00:29:08,867 --> 00:29:10,497
Come on. Let's go away.
619
00:29:10,500 --> 00:29:13,865
620
00:29:13,900 --> 00:29:18,470
the Zimmerman case lies
virtually dormant for two years.
621
00:29:18,505 --> 00:29:22,167
Then, in 1999, the Philadelphia
police department
622
00:29:22,202 --> 00:29:25,397
establishes its first
cold case squad.
623
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,400
One of its first detectives
is Mike Walter.
624
00:29:28,435 --> 00:29:30,365
It was explained to US
by our captain
625
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,930
that we could go
to any case that we wanted,
626
00:29:33,933 --> 00:29:37,073
and the one case
that I wanted back
627
00:29:37,108 --> 00:29:38,827
was the Zimmerman case.
628
00:29:38,833 --> 00:29:40,698
It looks like they knew
the killers.
629
00:29:40,733 --> 00:29:43,433
Well enough to get in the house
and close enough not to miss.
630
00:29:43,468 --> 00:29:46,898
My partner was detective
Patrick Mangold.
631
00:29:46,933 --> 00:29:49,503
We started a cold case,
and we'd sit down,
632
00:29:49,538 --> 00:29:50,865
put our heads together and say,
633
00:29:50,900 --> 00:29:53,470
"okay, this is what I think.
This is what you think,"
634
00:29:53,505 --> 00:29:56,527
and Mike said,
"this is what I think."
635
00:29:56,533 --> 00:29:58,333
We're going to need to talk
to everyone again,
636
00:29:58,368 --> 00:29:59,832
get them on the record.
637
00:29:59,867 --> 00:30:01,467
When they reopen the case,
638
00:30:01,502 --> 00:30:03,097
the detectives take a new look
639
00:30:03,100 --> 00:30:06,132
at Patty and Richard Zimmerman's
surviving family.
640
00:30:06,167 --> 00:30:09,197
They find not much has changed
for their daughter, Michelle.
641
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,070
But they discover that
their son, Matthew's, fortunes
642
00:30:12,105 --> 00:30:14,932
have improved dramatically.
643
00:30:14,967 --> 00:30:18,797
Bank records, major purchases,
credit card records.
644
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,600
Looks like he was a busy boy
the last two years.
645
00:30:21,635 --> 00:30:22,800
Look at this.
646
00:30:22,835 --> 00:30:25,965
647
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:27,230
where did all this
come from?
648
00:30:27,233 --> 00:30:29,433
This kid win the lottery
or what?
649
00:30:29,468 --> 00:30:31,898
650
00:30:31,933 --> 00:30:35,233
we're coming to find out
that Matthew is out there
651
00:30:35,268 --> 00:30:37,332
with cash.
652
00:30:37,367 --> 00:30:39,532
He purchased a house, you know?
653
00:30:39,567 --> 00:30:43,327
He's up in the Kensington area,
flashing jewelry
654
00:30:43,333 --> 00:30:45,865
and unexplained
amounts of money.
655
00:30:45,900 --> 00:30:49,900
It became apparent
that he benefited financially
656
00:30:49,935 --> 00:30:52,170
from his mom and dad's death.
657
00:30:52,205 --> 00:30:54,132
658
00:30:54,167 --> 00:30:56,127
again, we look for motive.
659
00:30:56,133 --> 00:30:58,930
The first motive
one would think of,
660
00:30:58,965 --> 00:31:01,727
I think, naturally,
would be robbery.
661
00:31:01,733 --> 00:31:06,873
98% of what they had around them
662
00:31:06,908 --> 00:31:08,527
was still there.
663
00:31:08,533 --> 00:31:12,198
Who does a robbery
and leaves all that behind?
664
00:31:12,233 --> 00:31:15,333
Only one class of person,
and that would be someone
665
00:31:15,368 --> 00:31:17,333
who's going to
inherit it anyway.
666
00:31:17,368 --> 00:31:20,365
667
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:21,530
who else was with Matt
668
00:31:21,533 --> 00:31:23,432
the weekend
of the murder at the house?
669
00:31:23,467 --> 00:31:26,927
His buddy who owned the place,
his girlfriend,
670
00:31:26,933 --> 00:31:30,253
and the girl Matt was with
at the time, Amy.
671
00:31:30,288 --> 00:31:33,557
Since they're
no longer together,
672
00:31:33,592 --> 00:31:36,827
Amy might have more
to share with detectives.
673
00:31:36,833 --> 00:31:38,398
So what I don't
understand is,
674
00:31:38,433 --> 00:31:40,232
if Matt was estranged
all those years,
675
00:31:40,267 --> 00:31:43,397
why'd they leave him the money
and then put him on that policy?
676
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:44,932
They never gave up on him.
677
00:31:44,967 --> 00:31:48,627
He was their son
no matter what.
678
00:31:48,633 --> 00:31:51,373
We come to find out
that it wasn't 100% estranged,
679
00:31:51,408 --> 00:31:53,397
that he had spoken
to his parents,
680
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:57,630
and, from time to time,
his father would give him money.
681
00:31:57,633 --> 00:32:00,603
And something would happen.
It would blow up.
682
00:32:00,638 --> 00:32:02,230
Was a cycle.
683
00:32:02,233 --> 00:32:03,803
Were you with him
the weekend of the murder?
684
00:32:03,838 --> 00:32:05,830
Yes.
685
00:32:05,833 --> 00:32:08,503
Matt wanted me to know
what to say
686
00:32:08,538 --> 00:32:11,032
when you people came after me.
687
00:32:11,067 --> 00:32:13,597
He told US all to say
the same thing.
688
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,630
He was telling them,
689
00:32:15,633 --> 00:32:19,573
"hey, if the cops come
and ask you, I was with you.
690
00:32:19,608 --> 00:32:22,227
I need you to alibi me
and tell the cops
691
00:32:22,233 --> 00:32:23,932
when they come to talk to you
692
00:32:23,967 --> 00:32:26,567
that I was with you
the entire time."
693
00:32:26,602 --> 00:32:30,497
It wasn't just that. He said...
694
00:32:30,500 --> 00:32:33,870
If his parents were dead,
he wouldn't be worried,
695
00:32:33,905 --> 00:32:35,967
that he was coming
into some money.
696
00:32:36,002 --> 00:32:38,832
Really?
697
00:32:38,867 --> 00:32:40,697
And so what we did is we figured
698
00:32:40,732 --> 00:32:42,527
it's a good opportunity
to bring Matt in,
699
00:32:42,533 --> 00:32:44,265
get a chance
to talk to him again,
700
00:32:44,300 --> 00:32:48,430
'cause we haven't talked
to him in a couple years.
701
00:32:48,433 --> 00:32:50,673
Nonetheless,
detectives have their doubts
702
00:32:50,708 --> 00:32:52,732
about getting Matthew to talk.
703
00:32:52,767 --> 00:32:55,097
It didn't work out
so well the first time.
704
00:32:55,100 --> 00:32:57,070
You got any idea
who'd want to do this?
705
00:32:57,105 --> 00:32:58,797
No idea, man.
706
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:00,532
Just kind of futile.
If he lied before,
707
00:33:00,567 --> 00:33:02,927
he's going to lie again.
When you have something solid,
708
00:33:02,933 --> 00:33:05,583
like a solid piece of evidence
or a statement
709
00:33:05,618 --> 00:33:08,233
to go at a suspect
and throw it at them and say,
710
00:33:08,268 --> 00:33:10,933
"hey, listen.
This is what I have.
711
00:33:10,968 --> 00:33:12,365
Now what do you want to say?"
712
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:16,930
And that's called a hammer
in police work.
713
00:33:16,933 --> 00:33:18,132
What about this?
714
00:33:18,167 --> 00:33:21,032
"I'm sorry.
Please forgive me."
715
00:33:21,067 --> 00:33:22,917
It's the graffiti left in chalk
716
00:33:22,952 --> 00:33:24,767
in front of his sister,
Michelle's, house
717
00:33:24,802 --> 00:33:26,332
right after the murder.
718
00:33:26,367 --> 00:33:28,197
We saw this piece of evidence.
719
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:29,730
We thought, "you know what?
720
00:33:29,733 --> 00:33:33,032
Let's take a crack at it."
721
00:33:33,067 --> 00:33:35,467
Initially, police
couldn't find the individual
722
00:33:35,502 --> 00:33:37,332
who authored the graffiti.
723
00:33:37,367 --> 00:33:39,532
Could it have been
Matthew after all?
724
00:33:39,567 --> 00:33:44,097
And now they may have just found
a way to put him to the test.
725
00:33:44,100 --> 00:33:45,130
What about it?
726
00:33:45,133 --> 00:33:47,198
That could be our hammer.
727
00:33:47,233 --> 00:33:49,973
Why don't we bring Matthew in
for a handwriting test?
728
00:33:50,008 --> 00:33:51,297
What do you mean?
729
00:33:51,300 --> 00:33:53,130
We get a warrant,
bring him in,
730
00:33:53,133 --> 00:33:54,632
have him do
a handwriting sample.
731
00:33:54,667 --> 00:33:58,167
We send those samples over
to the FBI for comparison.
732
00:33:58,202 --> 00:34:00,067
If his writing's a match,
733
00:34:00,102 --> 00:34:02,434
we got our guy.
734
00:34:02,469 --> 00:34:04,732
Worth a shot.
735
00:34:04,767 --> 00:34:07,227
Look, I answered your questions
two years ago.
736
00:34:07,233 --> 00:34:08,698
What y'all want?
737
00:34:08,733 --> 00:34:12,703
He was, you know, put out that
we, you know, reached out to him
738
00:34:12,738 --> 00:34:14,670
and wanted to talk to him,
like, you know,
739
00:34:14,705 --> 00:34:16,732
"why are you bothering me?"
740
00:34:16,767 --> 00:34:18,897
I got a little something
I'd like you to write down
741
00:34:18,900 --> 00:34:21,213
on a piece of paper.
742
00:34:23,533 --> 00:34:26,203
I don't have to write a thing
for you guys, man.
743
00:34:26,238 --> 00:34:28,873
Got a little piece of paper
signed by a judge
744
00:34:28,908 --> 00:34:30,527
that says otherwise.
745
00:34:30,533 --> 00:34:32,465
Why don't you
give it a read?
746
00:34:32,500 --> 00:34:34,032
And I said, "listen, Matthew.
747
00:34:34,067 --> 00:34:36,097
And I want you to write on
these pieces of paper 20 times.
748
00:34:36,100 --> 00:34:38,900
I'm going to hand you a single
piece of paper each time,
749
00:34:38,935 --> 00:34:40,630
and I want you to
write this phrase."
750
00:34:40,633 --> 00:34:41,932
20 times?
751
00:34:41,967 --> 00:34:43,827
You want to see
that court order again?
752
00:34:43,833 --> 00:34:46,433
20 times, or we book you in
for contempt of court.
753
00:34:46,468 --> 00:34:47,632
Okay.
754
00:34:47,667 --> 00:34:49,767
What do you guys
need me to write?
755
00:34:49,802 --> 00:34:51,867
"I'm sorry.
Please forgive me."
756
00:34:51,902 --> 00:35:01,267
757
00:35:08,233 --> 00:35:11,533
With the Zimmerman homicide
investigation heating up again,
758
00:35:11,568 --> 00:35:14,273
detectives revisit
the jewelers' son, Matthew,
759
00:35:14,308 --> 00:35:16,897
who clearly profited
from the tragedy.
760
00:35:16,900 --> 00:35:18,700
They hope to link him
to the murders
761
00:35:18,735 --> 00:35:22,530
through handwriting analysis.
762
00:35:22,533 --> 00:35:25,765
1 down, 19 more to go.
763
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,900
Matthew would take his time.
764
00:35:27,935 --> 00:35:30,430
He wouldn't write it correctly.
765
00:35:30,433 --> 00:35:34,203
He wrote the first one.
It took him about 3 minutes.
766
00:35:34,238 --> 00:35:36,432
- Number two.
- He was playing with US.
767
00:35:36,467 --> 00:35:39,067
He wasn't writing it out
in his own handwriting.
768
00:35:39,102 --> 00:35:41,532
"I'm sorry.
Please forgive me."
769
00:35:41,567 --> 00:35:42,797
He, like, chuckled about it.
770
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,613
He was kind of
laughing about it.
771
00:35:44,648 --> 00:35:46,427
And they had him
do several samples,
772
00:35:46,433 --> 00:35:49,703
and every sample,
he wrote differently.
773
00:35:49,738 --> 00:35:54,065
774
00:35:54,100 --> 00:35:57,365
anything else?
775
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,630
You can leave.
776
00:36:00,633 --> 00:36:03,903
Forensic examiner said they were
ridiculous handwriting examples.
777
00:36:03,938 --> 00:36:07,170
It was inconclusive because he
had written 20 different samples
778
00:36:07,205 --> 00:36:09,197
with 20 different handwritings.
779
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,930
It leaves detectives
back where they started.
780
00:36:11,933 --> 00:36:14,618
They may suspect Matthew,
781
00:36:14,653 --> 00:36:17,265
yet they have nothing on him.
782
00:36:17,300 --> 00:36:20,930
But detectives will get another
chance at their prime suspect.
783
00:36:20,933 --> 00:36:22,898
784
00:36:22,933 --> 00:36:24,932
and it's a total fluke.
785
00:36:24,967 --> 00:36:27,467
All cars. All cars, officer
needs immediate assistance.
786
00:36:27,502 --> 00:36:30,164
White male suspect
is 10-32, over.
787
00:36:30,199 --> 00:36:32,827
I'm driving one night,
788
00:36:32,833 --> 00:36:34,773
and we hear a general
come over the police radio,
789
00:36:34,808 --> 00:36:37,067
and it says, "all cars,
be on the lookout.
790
00:36:37,102 --> 00:36:39,532
Looking for a white male
in his 20s.
791
00:36:39,567 --> 00:36:42,827
He just tried to run over
a drug enforcement agent."
792
00:36:42,833 --> 00:36:46,103
Suspect is
Matthew Zimmerman, over.
793
00:36:46,138 --> 00:36:49,332
Yo, Mike.
794
00:36:49,367 --> 00:36:51,297
Yo, what's up?
795
00:36:51,300 --> 00:36:53,970
Matthew just got
in a dust-up with the d.E.A.
796
00:36:54,005 --> 00:36:55,927
- What?
- Yeah.
797
00:36:55,933 --> 00:36:57,632
All right.
798
00:36:57,667 --> 00:37:00,732
Let's go see if we get him.
799
00:37:00,767 --> 00:37:03,567
While d.E.A. Agents
fan out across the city
800
00:37:03,602 --> 00:37:06,067
searching for Matthew Zimmerman,
801
00:37:06,102 --> 00:37:07,632
Philly homicide detectives
802
00:37:07,667 --> 00:37:10,227
pressure the person
closest to Matthew,
803
00:37:10,233 --> 00:37:13,733
his sister, Michelle,
to tell them where he is.
804
00:37:13,768 --> 00:37:15,419
He tried to run over
a cop, Michelle.
805
00:37:15,454 --> 00:37:17,032
He's going to get
himself killed.
806
00:37:17,067 --> 00:37:19,727
You got to tell US where he is
before someone puts him down.
807
00:37:19,733 --> 00:37:21,781
You want to help him now?
Is that it?
808
00:37:21,816 --> 00:37:23,830
She was complete in denial.
809
00:37:23,833 --> 00:37:25,732
"He has nothing
to do with this."
810
00:37:25,767 --> 00:37:28,397
He's made some mistakes,
but he's not a killer.
811
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,530
He would never hurt our parents.
812
00:37:30,533 --> 00:37:32,953
And she give a statement saying
813
00:37:32,988 --> 00:37:35,332
that she would do
everything in her power
814
00:37:35,367 --> 00:37:39,167
to derail our investigation
if it centered on her brother,
815
00:37:39,202 --> 00:37:41,297
to the point that she would
go to court and lie.
816
00:37:41,300 --> 00:37:42,830
You've got the wrong guy.
817
00:37:42,833 --> 00:37:44,873
I'm not helping you find him.
818
00:37:44,908 --> 00:37:47,297
He's innocent.
819
00:37:47,300 --> 00:37:49,830
Michelle refuses to help police.
820
00:37:49,833 --> 00:37:51,732
821
00:37:51,767 --> 00:37:54,427
the next day, Matt Zimmerman
surrenders to the feds
822
00:37:54,433 --> 00:37:57,032
in the drug case,
823
00:37:57,067 --> 00:38:00,197
but that doesn't help
the homicide detectives.
824
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,330
He won't talk about the murders.
825
00:38:02,333 --> 00:38:04,698
826
00:38:04,733 --> 00:38:07,400
it takes three long
and frustrating years
827
00:38:07,435 --> 00:38:10,067
for detectives
to catch another break.
828
00:38:10,102 --> 00:38:13,532
But when they do,
it's a big one.
829
00:38:13,567 --> 00:38:16,767
An informant came
to police with information.
830
00:38:16,802 --> 00:38:19,967
Carmen Monica
is an incarcerated killer
831
00:38:20,002 --> 00:38:21,727
with information to share.
832
00:38:21,733 --> 00:38:23,598
So Matt Zimmerman asked you
833
00:38:23,633 --> 00:38:25,916
to kill his parents,
just like that?
834
00:38:25,951 --> 00:38:28,200
Said his parents had
this life insurance
835
00:38:28,235 --> 00:38:30,567
and a lot of money
and all that.
836
00:38:30,602 --> 00:38:32,865
He goes on to say that,
you know,
837
00:38:32,900 --> 00:38:36,100
he lays out the whole
security of mom and dad.
838
00:38:36,135 --> 00:38:37,330
He said he could get me
in the house,
839
00:38:37,333 --> 00:38:39,032
acting like I was his friend.
840
00:38:39,067 --> 00:38:40,932
"You'll be with me.
They'll buzz me in,
841
00:38:40,967 --> 00:38:43,227
and then, you know,
I just need you to kill them.
842
00:38:43,233 --> 00:38:45,568
And I'm going to come
into a lot of money.
843
00:38:45,603 --> 00:38:47,865
And I'll pay you,
and I'll give you this.
844
00:38:47,900 --> 00:38:50,300
And then, when I get cash,
I'll pay you additional money."
845
00:38:50,335 --> 00:38:52,332
He told me six times
to do it.
846
00:38:52,367 --> 00:38:54,330
I said no
every single time.
847
00:38:54,333 --> 00:38:56,773
According to Carmen that,
you know, he's a trigger man,
848
00:38:56,808 --> 00:38:58,497
and Carmen's like,
849
00:38:58,500 --> 00:39:01,232
"no, I'm not. I'm not going to
do that. They're your parents."
850
00:39:01,267 --> 00:39:04,327
The lies about where he was
when his parents were killed,
851
00:39:04,333 --> 00:39:08,073
the insurance money,
and now Carmen Monica's story --
852
00:39:08,108 --> 00:39:12,227
all paths finally lead
to Matthew Zimmerman,
853
00:39:12,233 --> 00:39:14,453
and now the detectives
can prove it.
854
00:39:14,488 --> 00:39:17,277
The way we think it played out
855
00:39:17,312 --> 00:39:20,067
was that the zimmermans
had a routine
856
00:39:20,102 --> 00:39:21,727
on Saturday night.
857
00:39:24,867 --> 00:39:26,527
Hello?
Around 8:00,
858
00:39:26,533 --> 00:39:30,603
they had a before-bedtime
dinner, snack.
859
00:39:30,638 --> 00:39:31,730
Hey, pat?
860
00:39:31,733 --> 00:39:34,751
And Matt came to the house.
861
00:39:34,786 --> 00:39:37,732
It's Matthew.
He's downstairs.
862
00:39:37,767 --> 00:39:40,527
She opened the door.
She went upstairs
863
00:39:40,533 --> 00:39:43,173
and was walking toward
where the father was seated.
864
00:39:43,208 --> 00:39:46,727
And so, the way
it would lay out,
865
00:39:46,733 --> 00:39:51,603
because her back was to Matt,
she probably was shot first.
866
00:39:51,638 --> 00:39:57,765
867
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:01,385
and then, as soon as
she dropped, they turned around,
868
00:40:01,420 --> 00:40:04,970
and before Mr. Zimmerman
could react, he was shot.
869
00:40:05,005 --> 00:40:13,797
870
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:17,600
they were so afraid
of being attacked from outside.
871
00:40:17,635 --> 00:40:19,370
And here, they're buzzing in
their killer,
872
00:40:19,405 --> 00:40:20,497
and it's their own son.
873
00:40:20,500 --> 00:40:23,600
I mean, that's pretty ironic.
874
00:40:23,635 --> 00:40:26,465
Sad.
875
00:40:26,500 --> 00:40:29,130
He wanted their money,
and he didn't care
876
00:40:29,133 --> 00:40:30,865
what happened
or how it happened.
877
00:40:30,900 --> 00:40:33,530
They needed to be dead
so he would get their money.
878
00:40:33,533 --> 00:40:35,532
879
00:40:35,567 --> 00:40:37,227
and we all agreed
that we thought
880
00:40:37,233 --> 00:40:38,798
there was enough
to arrest him now.
881
00:40:38,833 --> 00:40:42,033
The honor of issuing Matthew
Zimmerman's arrest warrant
882
00:40:42,068 --> 00:40:43,398
goes to a colleague,
883
00:40:43,433 --> 00:40:48,033
Philly homicide detective
Steven Buckley.
884
00:40:48,068 --> 00:40:49,965
We talked
with Carmen Monica.
885
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:51,930
Your pal, Carmen,
says you asked him
886
00:40:51,933 --> 00:40:54,433
to kill your mom and dad
for you
887
00:40:54,468 --> 00:40:55,949
six times.
888
00:40:55,984 --> 00:40:57,430
Go ahead.
889
00:40:57,433 --> 00:41:00,632
That's his statement
right there.
890
00:41:00,667 --> 00:41:04,267
That's the missing piece,
Matt -- Carmen Monica.
891
00:41:04,302 --> 00:41:06,032
Carmen?
892
00:41:06,067 --> 00:41:07,567
That's your missing piece?
893
00:41:07,602 --> 00:41:08,897
That dude is a snake.
894
00:41:08,900 --> 00:41:10,900
Let me guess. You offer him
a reduced sentence,
895
00:41:10,935 --> 00:41:12,830
and he gives you
this bogus statement.
896
00:41:12,833 --> 00:41:15,398
This is your last chance, Matt,
to come clean.
897
00:41:15,433 --> 00:41:18,316
All right? What do you think
a jury is going to think
898
00:41:18,351 --> 00:41:21,200
about a son who killed his mom
and dad for some money?
899
00:41:21,235 --> 00:41:24,532
This is it.
900
00:41:24,567 --> 00:41:26,597
You're right!
I did kill them!
901
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,170
And I don't want to talk
about it anymore,
902
00:41:28,205 --> 00:41:30,627
so take me down
and charge me.
903
00:41:30,633 --> 00:41:32,665
904
00:41:32,700 --> 00:41:34,900
that was it. Matthew shut down.
905
00:41:34,935 --> 00:41:36,232
He wouldn't say anything else
906
00:41:36,267 --> 00:41:39,167
after he made that, you know,
"I did it."
907
00:41:39,202 --> 00:41:42,032
And he was charged
with the homicide.
908
00:41:42,067 --> 00:41:46,597
Matthew Zimmerman's sentence
was life imprisonment
909
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:48,865
for the murder
of his mother
910
00:41:48,900 --> 00:41:52,400
and life imprisonment
for the murder of his father.
911
00:41:52,435 --> 00:41:56,065
912
00:41:56,100 --> 00:41:57,532
Matthew's sister, Michelle,
913
00:41:57,567 --> 00:42:00,397
continued to defend her brother
throughout his trial.
914
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:01,632
Her brother never admits
915
00:42:01,667 --> 00:42:03,267
to having written
the chalk graffiti
916
00:42:03,302 --> 00:42:05,397
found in front of her building.
917
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,365
She now lives in
her parents' apartment
918
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,430
and no longer works for the
Philadelphia police department.
919
00:42:10,433 --> 00:42:12,703
You know, my own
nephew, his life's shattered.
920
00:42:12,738 --> 00:42:15,930
My niece, she misses
her parents, and over what?
921
00:42:15,933 --> 00:42:18,032
Money? You know, it's tragic.
922
00:42:18,067 --> 00:42:20,527
Patty had a lot of life
left in her, you know?
923
00:42:20,533 --> 00:42:24,603
To be snuffed out like that was
totally uncalled for and unfair.
924
00:42:24,638 --> 00:42:26,970
I mean, she was
a very beautiful woman,
925
00:42:27,005 --> 00:42:31,167
and I miss her terribly,
you know?
926
00:42:32,305 --> 00:43:32,613
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