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Dark Side of the Moon
was an expression of
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political, philosophical,
humanitarian empathy
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that was desperate to get out.
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Dark Side, I think... I felt like
the whole band were working together.
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It was a very creative time.
We were very open as well.
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I think because we still
had a common goal,
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which was to become rich and famous.
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The ideas that Roger was exploring
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apply to every new generation.
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They still have very much
the same relevance as they had.
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I think one of the successes
of Dark Side is the fact
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that actually it's very rich.
There's a... there are a lot of songs,
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a lot of ideas all compressed
onto the one record.
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I can clearly remember that moment
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of sitting and listening to the
whole mix all the way through
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and thinking, "My God, we've really...
done something fantastic here.
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I think it has the all-time record,
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constantly on the charts for nearly
750 weeks, about 14 years.
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It was a huge album,
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and huge not just in terms of its sales,
but in terms of its influence.
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This was where underground music,
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progressive rock, whatever,
really went mainstream.
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It was a record that had lots
of traditional pop values,
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you could sing along
to these songs, but
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it also was a kind of thing
that took you places
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if you wanted to listen to it
in a darkened room.
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It may very will be the
ultimate concept record,
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because the concept is there,
the songs are there,
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the spaces and the music are there,
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but it doesn't take away
any of the imagination.
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After Syd went crazy in '68
and Dave joined
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we were, all of us, searching,
fumbling around,
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looking for, "What are we gonna do now?"
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Because here was the guy who
starts producing all these songs,
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and was the sort of
heartbeat of the band.
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Syd casts a long and
large shadow of events.
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I think that the band was
very impressive to keep going,
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actually, after loss of
their main creative drive,
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I mean it was the first time
you choose, isn't it,
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I mean you wouldn't sit around say,
"Okay, let's get rid of our song writer."
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After Syd had gone the music became
more kind of soundscapes than songs.
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You have to watch your strengths,
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and, um, it was a very good thing
that we could not write singles.
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We might not have done some of the
very interesting work that we did.
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Once Syd was out of the picture,
the Floyd just went glacial.
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They just let it all spread out.
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When I saw the Floyd for the first time,
it was the summer of '68,
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it was actually their first
American tour with David Gilmour,
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and they were just extraordinary,
you know, it was
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"Let There Be More Light",
"Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun",
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it was total space rock.
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I started fully out of love with
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that, um, some of that...
psychedelic noodling stuff.
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We were still then playing a lot of
instrumental work, if you like,
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and that would be half the album.
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But we were always searching
for a direction.
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A fighting a little bit between
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wanting to push boundaries
back a little bit
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and move forward in an experimental way,
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but also to retain melody.
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When you get to "Meddle",
quite clearly, and "Echoes"
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shows the direction that
we were moving in.
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The rest of "Meddle" as I recall was songs,
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and so in the flip side
was a 20-minute piece
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A) and so was a construct, and
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B) it was the beginning of all
the writing about other people.
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♪ Strangers passing in the street ♪
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♪ by chance two separate glances meet ♪
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♪ and I am you and what I see is me ♪
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It was the beginning of empathy,
if you like, you know,
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"two strangers passing in the street,
by chance two passing glances meet,
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and I am you and what I see is me"
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is a sort of thread that has gone through
everything for me ever since then...
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and had a big, um,
eruption in Dark Side.
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You have to remember that
the context of the time.
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This was the height of
glam rock. There was,
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you know, Marc Bolan, and T. Rex
and David Bowie with
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Ziggy Stardust peddling there,
sort of pop fantasies,
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and the Floyd came along with an album
that was about these weighty themes.
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He created a story, he created a...
basically a theater piece
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about what it was like to
live in the modern world.
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All four of us were there,
and there was a discussion about
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putting the album together
and making it into this "themed",
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this... I mean what is now
called a "concept album".
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There are a number of things that
impinge upon an individual to...
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that color his view of existence.
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There are pressures that are capable of
pushing you one direction or another,
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and, uh, these are some of them, and,
whether they push you towards
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insanity, death, empathy,
greed, um, whatever.
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Uh, there's something about the
Newtonian view of that physics
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that might be interesting and
may be there could be...
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this is what this record is about.
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There was one of those
really good moments
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that most bands do experience
where everyone is on sight,
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and everyone likes the idea, and there's
some sort of agreement as to,
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more or less, who's going to do what.
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Dark Side of the Moon started in
a rehearsal room in Bermondsey
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I think, that belongs... a warehouse
that belongs to The Rolling Stones
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where we did some... sort of jamming,
writing, whatever you want to call it.
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Not sure how much writing happened there.
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You know, let's play in E minor
or in A for an hour or two,
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oh that sounds all right,
that will take up 5 minutes.
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A lot of the musical ideas just came up
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just to the jamming away
in these rehearsal rooms...
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obviously the lyrics Roger brought in.
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Because he had things to say.
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And it was the first time
he wrote all the lyrics.
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Roger was all sorts of a
pushing, driving force.
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The way Dark Side of the Moon
articulates some sense of
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early adult's disenchantment
is absolutely timeless.
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I've listened to it again recently,
and, uh, it always amazes me
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that I c-- that I got away
with it really, 'cause it was so
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lower sixth, and, you know, um...
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"Breathe, breathe in the air,
don't be afraid to care."
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In fact, I think, within
the context of the music
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and within the context
of the pieces at whole.
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People are prepared to accept
that simple exultation
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to be prepared to
stand your ground and
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attempt to live your life
in an authentic way.
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I came from jazz basically...
I love it...
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That's my favorite...
that's my inspiration.
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And the interesting thing about this song is,
we're talking about the jazz,
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is this certain chord...
which is...
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That is totally down to a chord
I had heard on, actually
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Miles Davis album Kind of Blue,
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which is a... That chord!
That chord! I just loved!
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And when we're doing "Breathe",
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we got to G, I got to G,
and how'd you get to E again?
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Well, again, normally you go...
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but, um, I remember this chord
and I remember
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working it out at home listening
to the record, and I just thought...
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Dave was brilliant at double tracking vocals.
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And we could do machines,
but there's a difference.
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There's also a harmony part.
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And that's it how it's sung.
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Back to the band.
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There's two organ parts
which come in now.
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They had been performing
this work known as "Eclipse"
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um, for a few months I think, before
actually even coming in to Abbey Road
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to start the first recordings.
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Which meant that the performances were
pretty tight and not so hard to get.
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When you're working in a band and
you're performing something, it
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willy-nilly, it develops and changes.
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In pre-bootlegging days
this of course was
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a far more effective and
better way of doing things,
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because you went in the
studio and rehearsed up.
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We'd been playing it live
that way for quite some time
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as a sort of guitar jam,
that sort of a piece.
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I think we were none of us
that happy with it as a piece,
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and when we also had this synthesizer.
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This Synth EA which had a
little built-in keyboard
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and had a sequencer, it was
the first sequencer I think.
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I just plugged this up and started
playing one sequence on it,
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and Roger immediately pricked up his ears
and said, "That sounded good."
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And came up, and we started
mucking with it together
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and he put in a new sequence of notes,
and all developed out of that.
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A series of notes played in slowly.
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triggering a noise generator
and oscillators,
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and then just speed it up, you know.
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You've got it basically...
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And that, of course,
immediately sounded
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much more exciting than what
we were currently doing.
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They were the first band
to really go out
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and try to sort of make
music of the future.
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We were doing a lot of
things with tape loops
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and curious sounds and sound effects...
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There wasn't something in 1972
when they put that album together.
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But that's basically
what they were doing.
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They were, in a sense, they
were giving you a preview
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of the sound pictures of the future.
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There's some very, very clever
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and highly listenable pieces
of sonic experimentation.
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So this is the main synthesizer,
it has the high-hat element built in.
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Then we treat it with filters and with
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other oscillators to get
this sort of vibrato noise.
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And we bring in this guitar, which is
a backwards guitar with echo stuff on it,
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it's been played with a mike stand leg,
just sliding up.
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That was left-to-right across the stereo.
And there's these synthesizers.
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Morph synth's, which are creating
sort of futuristic vehicle noises,
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which you take the pitch down a little bit,
and pan it at the same time
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that creates an artificial Doppler sound.
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What looks like ambulance
is whizzing past you,
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bringing some footsteps...
and some heartbeats for extra tension...
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As you see there's an awful
lot going on this track.
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This section in particular,
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"The Travel" section or "On the Run" section,
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um, I think was pretty complicated.
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A lot of hands on deck.
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You do always want to put more
things on than you had tracks for,
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so tracks would very suddenly change
from one thing to a different thing.
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All of us were on the desk,
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with our fingers on the faders.
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But that's the way
it was, because, uh,
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we didn't have automation in those days...
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A mix in those days was a performance,
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every bit as much as doing a gig.
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It's one thing actually that
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we've kind of lost in the modern age.
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Very, very well engineered,
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it was also very, very
carefully constructed.
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So there was no, sort of--
everything was well recorded.
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Dark Side was really the first
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proper engineering job I'd been
given with the Floyd.
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So there was pretty much
putting on the deep end.
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It was very great musically as well.
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He also came up with a
couple of good ideas.
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I was commissioned to, um, record
some, um, clocks for sound effects,
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record for, um, the very early
days of quadrophony.
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And when we were doing "Time"
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he suggested we might
like to have these clocks.
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My memory of it is just this room
full of tapes rolling around
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because it was without
any sort of computer help,
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everything had to be done manually.
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Getting all the clocks to chime
at the right time, that was a process
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of just finding a particular moment
on the multi-track tape
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where all the chiming
would happen, and then
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back-timing the quarter-inch originals
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which contained each of the clocks.
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And then the very critical thing of
tapes starting at specific moments,
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which was all done with
hand signs and stopwatches.
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We got the girls making their
first appearance here...
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That's un-processed...
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And we actually put this effect
called a "frequency translation" on,
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which made them sound like this...
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Here is the solo...
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This one was probably
taking some shape live
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before we ever got to do it,
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but, usually, in the studio
on this sort of thing,
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you just go out have a player
over it and see what comes,
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and it's usually, and mostly,
the first take that's the best one,
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and you find yourself repeating
yourself thereafter.
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The 1970's was the era of the guitar.
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And, um, he had that
sort of very "bluesy" sound
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but then also he had that other sound,
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that sort of spacey, very crystalline,
almost ethereal quality.
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I suddenly realized then, that year,
that life was already happening.
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I think it's because my mother
was so obsessed with education
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and the idea that childhood
and adolescence and,
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well, everything, was about preparing
for a life that was going to start later.
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And I suddenly realized that life
wasn't going to start later,
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that it is, you know, it starts at "dot"
and it happens all the time, and then,
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at any point you can grasp the reins
and start guiding your own destiny.
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And that was a big revelation to me,
I mean, it came as quite a shock.
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One of the greatest lines I think
on Dark Side of the Moon
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is Roger's line about "Hanging on in
quiet desperation is the English way",
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which is a sort of line you
could imagine, I don't know,
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Evelyn Waugh or Somerset Maugham
or someone writing
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as an observation on
the English character.
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And I think that character does
permiate the whole record,
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and indeed the whole of
Pink Floyd's career.
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It expresses my feelings
about things very simply.
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And I think that, um, musically,
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I think that the music
is to some extent
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driven... by that emotional commitment.
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The band basically wanted another
4 or 5 minutes of music,
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and we thought it could be an instrumental.
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I think I just, as I always have done it,
is I sat at the piano
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and I, and those first two chords came.
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"Us And Them" and
"The Great Gig In The Sky",
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you know, are fabulous chord sequences,
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are really truly wonderful
pieces of music.
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I've no idea whose idea it was to get
somebody as a female singer in
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but Alan Parsons knew Clare Torry
and had been working with her,
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and said, "Why don't you try her?"
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She's just went in there
and improvised over.
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And, yeah, that was amazing,
that was fantastic.
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That was done while we mixing.
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We knew what we wanted,
not exactly musically,
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but we knew that we
wanted someone to just...
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improvise over this piece.
So we directed her
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"Well, think about death,
think about horror,
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think whatever, and just go and sing".
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And, my memory is, that
she went out in the studio
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and did it very very quickly,
and then came back in and said,
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"I'm really sorry about this,"
very embarrassed.
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And we, in fact, were sitting in the
studio saying, "This is wonderful."
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And of course, it's absolutely brilliant,
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both Rick's piano and organ work,
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and Clare's singing is
just incredibly moving.
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In the very end of this, I remember,
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we increased the echo slowly.
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We always wanted to kind of...
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not be on our covers ourselves,
not have pictures.
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It is probably the most recognizable
album cover of all time.
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It's something that you
can sit and look at
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for a long time without
getting fed up with it.
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The prism, is, is the logo that
absolutely defines the record.
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Dark Side of the Moon prism design
comes from three basic ingredients,
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one of which is the light show
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that the band put on tour and trying
to represent that and also
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one of the themes were
lyrics which was, I think,
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about ambition and greed.
And thirdly,
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it was an answer to Rick Wright
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who said that he wanted something...
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Simple and bold, and dramatic.
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The presentation, as we call it,
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of the design to the band
was a very brief affair.
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He just brought in 3 or 4 ideas...
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I do remember instantly
seeing the pyramid.
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They came in and they looked around,
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and they went, "Mmm, that one!"
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Everyone immediately went,
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"Terrific! Great! Let's do that."
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As epitomized by there but it did
choose it so quickly and so easily is,
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I just think it is somehow very fitting,
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I mean, it's hard to imagine it
without it, isn't it really?
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The story in America,
being sort of disaster that
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really we hadn't sold records.
And like all good artists
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the first thing you do is
blame the record company.
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But in this particular case, I think
we might get a few more people to agree
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that they hadn't performed properly.
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And so they brought in a man
called Bhaskar Menon,
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who was absolutely terrific.
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And he decided he was going
to make this work
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and he was going to make
the American company, um,
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sell this record. And he did!
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We devised a marketing campaign
for this, which was
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far more extensive than anything
that the company had ever done.
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It was an album that came after
virtually a year of touring.
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There was a tremendous amount
of credible press.
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We got by this time without a single
got this album tremendous sales,
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close to about a million albums
by that stage,
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which was quite remarkable.
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And I knew that the time
would come when
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we would have to get on
to the next stage,
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to get to the next category
or level of audience.
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We really would need some
single-like material.
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They always say, you know,
you need a hit single
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and we had a sort of
hit single with "Money".
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You know, I would have remembered
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writing "Money" as a sort
of very bluesy thing.
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I can't sing that up in
that register of that...
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And there's a very kind of transatlantic,
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bluesy sort of twang to it all.
Listen to the original demo,
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it's not like that at all, it's all
very kind of prissy and... very English.
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The one thing about "Money" that
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I think people forget is
that it's got the weirdest,
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it's one of the biggest hits
with the weirdest time signature.
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Very unusual 7/8 time.
Um, good riff.
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I'd played in a band with
Dick when we were
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sort of teenagers in Cambridge.
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Dick was...
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was sort of a part of
the Cambridge Mafia.
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I didn't know any other sax players
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and probably too nervous to ask
anyone that we'd heard of.
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He was terrific.
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Well, Dick did his sax solo
in the seven-time.
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And then we sort of sat and worked out,
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um, a different sequence for the guitar solo,
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um, probably to make my life easier
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so I didn't have to
think about the timing.
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I love the fact that it does change.
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Let me say that lots
of things happened
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on Dark Side that
are kind of magical
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without us intentionally
making them happen.
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It just happened. And I think
that's one of the great things
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about "Money" is that it does
change time signatures.
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And that's the thing,
he goes back into the 4/4
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and all of a sudden, man,
it's rock city!
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"Money" is an amazing single
because it's about
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the very thing that it became,
it's about success.
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Something certainly did
the trick and it
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moved us up into a super league,
I suppose you might say,
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which brought with it some great joy,
some pride and some... problems.
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Of course it changed our life
and we were now
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a big rock-n-roll band
playing at stadiums.
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You don't know what you're
in it for anymore.
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You know, you're in it to
achieve massive success and
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get rich and famous and all these
other things that go along with it.
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And, uh, and when they're
all suddenly done
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you're going, "Hmm, huh?
Well, why? What next?"
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It's not to say we didn't
do some good work,
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but the good work we did
was actually all about
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a lot of the negative aspects of
what went on after we'd achieved,
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um, the goal.
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I mean that obviously informed what
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turned out to be the
next album quiet deeply
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Wish You Were Here.
Because we weren't,
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most of us most of the time.
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They were a platinum monster
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and... it's not a lot of fun.
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Sort of amazing to me now that
we had that piece of music
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in 1969 when we recorded
the music for Zabriskie Point.
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And throughout, I guess,
Atom Heart Mother,
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the Obscured By Clouds album,
the Meddle album
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we didn't dig it out and use it,
such a lovely piece of music.
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00:36:16,092 --> 00:36:18,928
Antonioni didn't really
know what he wanted.
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He needed desperately to have control.
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So even if you did the right thing
and it was perfect,
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he couldn't bear to accept it
because there wasn't a choice.
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All he really wanted was
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"Careful With That Axe, Eugene."
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I think we were all getting a bit
frustrated of, "What does he want?"
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I think I was just sitting
in the studio and
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I was seeing the piano
and they happened
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to have this violent sequence up
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and I was watching it and, probably I
felt a bit tired, or whatever,
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I just started this, the chord sequence.
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At the time I think everyone thought,
'This is really good.'
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When we thought we'd really got
something brilliant for his movie,
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and Antonioni, he would say...
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00:37:03,222 --> 00:37:06,976
"It's beautiful, but is too sad,"
you know,
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00:37:07,143 --> 00:37:09,061
"It makes me think of church".
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00:37:09,228 --> 00:37:14,150
It was obviously waiting to
be reborn in this album.
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The lyrics are so direct and linear.
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Those fundamental issues
of whether or not
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the human race is capable
of being humane.
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What's good about the writing of
this song, from my point of view,
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is the leaving of the gaps
for the repeat echo.
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It's kind of strange hearing it without the,
without the echoes in it.
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I find myself with instrumentalists
over the years working with people
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having very, very often
as a producer in my capacity
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for producing records,
having to say to people,
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"Now leave a hole, you know,
now just play for half a bar
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and then leave a bar and a half free,
you know, empty."
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And that's kind of what that song is,
that's the way it works.
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The simplicity of Floyd is really
almost hard to talk about
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because it is so simple. Um, Nick Mason
playing very slowly, you know,
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exact, without a lot of... overly
frilly percussion flourishes.
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Um, Richard's touch on piano
and organ, very gentle,
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very soft, but also exact,
and just hitting the notes right.
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It was always about leaving space.
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I think, Dave and Rick,
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their harmony vocals on it
are really very affecting.
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00:39:37,084 --> 00:39:39,378
Funny enough, they have similar voices,
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both their voices are a big factor in
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Dark Side of the Moon,
the way, the way they blend.
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That's Dave and Rick together.
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Then Rick does another
part lower that he did.
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And then the girls are also joining in.
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00:40:27,260 --> 00:40:29,512
"I mean, they're not gonna kill ya,
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so if you give 'em a
quick short, sharp shock
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they don't do it again. Dig it?
I mean he got off lightly,
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'cause I could've given him a thrashing.
I only hit him once!
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00:40:39,105 --> 00:40:40,898
It was only a difference
of right and wrong, ain't it?
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00:40:41,065 --> 00:40:43,609
I mean good manners don't
cost nothing, do they, eh?"
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00:40:44,026 --> 00:40:47,321
It seemed to me really important,
I can't,
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I've no idea why to have
voices on this thing.
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And so the only thing that
was clever about it at all
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was how to do it, so not
to have an interview.
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Devised probably in the canteen
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and done later that evening.
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So I wrote a bunch of cards
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with the questions on them.
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00:41:07,592 --> 00:41:09,594
I think what the voices did
on the record was
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they actually brought out
the dark side,
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they were in a way the
dark side of the record.
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First, we used a number of people
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who worked in the studio with us,
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so we used 3 or 4 of our road crew.
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"I ain't frightened of dying at all,
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'cause when you gotta go, you gotta go."
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The Irish doorman here, Gerry,
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00:41:26,944 --> 00:41:29,113
"Why should I be frightened of dying?
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00:41:29,405 --> 00:41:31,949
There's no reason for it,
you gotta go some time".
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00:41:32,366 --> 00:41:34,243
"Wings" were recording in here
at the same time
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00:41:34,327 --> 00:41:36,704
so we actually used Paul and Linda,
Henry McCullough,
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00:41:36,787 --> 00:41:39,081
"I don't know, I was really
drunk at the time".
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00:41:39,582 --> 00:41:42,752
It's the people who are not used
to being interviewed,
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who come up with the stuff.
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I think they started off with
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"what's your favorite color?"
and "your favorite food?"
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And when none of which was
just to get people there.
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00:41:52,553 --> 00:41:54,972
And then they went into "when was
the last time you were violent?"
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This was the good bit, "when was
the last time you were violent?"
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00:41:58,351 --> 00:42:02,396
and then you'd take-- you'd answer it
and take the next card,
469
00:42:02,522 --> 00:42:04,565
the next card said,
"were you in the right?"
470
00:42:04,732 --> 00:42:07,443
"Yeah, heh heh, I was in the right."
471
00:42:07,568 --> 00:42:09,779
"Yes, absolutely in the right!"
472
00:42:09,862 --> 00:42:11,781
"I certainly was in the right!"
473
00:42:11,906 --> 00:42:13,282
"Yeah, I was definitely in the right,
474
00:42:13,407 --> 00:42:14,867
that geezer was cruising for a bruising."
475
00:42:15,117 --> 00:42:18,496
And this remarkable roadie
called "Roger the Hat",
476
00:42:18,621 --> 00:42:21,165
"If I participate in this fucking effort,
I hope I'm gonna get
477
00:42:21,249 --> 00:42:25,461
my gold disc at the end of it.
Imagine that, uh!
478
00:42:26,546 --> 00:42:29,215
They were trying to track
him down to do the cards
479
00:42:29,465 --> 00:42:31,259
and by the time they got
ahold them, somebody...
480
00:42:31,467 --> 00:42:33,761
the cards had gone missing,
I don't know where they'd gone.
481
00:42:34,262 --> 00:42:37,056
So, uh, Roger Waters actually
ended up doing it,
482
00:42:37,139 --> 00:42:38,891
he actually did that one
as an interview.
483
00:42:39,684 --> 00:42:43,688
Do you ever think you're going mad, Roger?
484
00:42:43,855 --> 00:42:48,818
And... I once reached a stage in my life
where I was completely convinced
485
00:42:48,943 --> 00:42:52,921
that I'd gone over the brink, or, well,
that's what I'd care to call it.
486
00:43:06,294 --> 00:43:09,130
It was obviously a bit
to do with Syd, and...
487
00:43:09,839 --> 00:43:15,970
I think it's about... defending
the notion of being different.
488
00:45:22,263 --> 00:45:24,849
The fundamental question
that's facing us all is
489
00:45:24,932 --> 00:45:28,519
whether or not we're capable of dealing
490
00:45:28,686 --> 00:45:30,563
with the whole question of "Us and Them"
491
00:45:30,771 --> 00:45:33,191
What he was feeling as an individual
492
00:45:33,566 --> 00:45:38,112
mirrored almost exactly
what a lot of other people
493
00:45:38,279 --> 00:45:40,072
were feeling at the time
of their own lives.
494
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:41,616
There's no question in my mind that
495
00:45:41,741 --> 00:45:43,367
Dark Side of the Moon
was one of the most important
496
00:45:43,493 --> 00:45:45,870
artistic statements of the
last fifty years, probably.
497
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:49,749
It touched very many people
all over the world
498
00:45:49,874 --> 00:45:53,377
in ways that could not simply
be put down the fact that,
499
00:45:53,503 --> 00:45:56,172
"Oh, the nice tunes" and
"Oh, I like that bit at the end."
500
00:45:56,255 --> 00:45:58,382
I mean, this was a complete experience.
501
00:45:58,508 --> 00:46:00,635
It was actually a really grim time,
502
00:46:00,801 --> 00:46:07,350
and he wrote a very grim record
but did it with music
503
00:46:07,475 --> 00:46:12,146
that was extremely uplifting and
compelling and bewitching.
504
00:46:12,313 --> 00:46:15,900
I think it was a ,very happy and creative
505
00:46:16,067 --> 00:46:18,694
and enjoyable time when
we made this album.
506
00:46:18,861 --> 00:46:22,657
It was probably the most focused
moment in our career
507
00:46:22,824 --> 00:46:26,160
in terms of all of us working
together as a band.
508
00:46:26,285 --> 00:46:31,833
I'd love to have been a person who could
sit back with his headphones on,
509
00:46:32,166 --> 00:46:36,379
listen to that the whole way
through for the first time,
510
00:46:36,504 --> 00:46:39,757
I mean, I had never
had this experience,
511
00:46:40,216 --> 00:46:42,035
But, uh, it would've been nice.
512
00:46:42,036 --> 00:46:43,650
The thing that's often missed
is the fact
513
00:46:43,696 --> 00:46:46,681
that basically people
respond to that on the
514
00:46:46,848 --> 00:46:50,000
emotional level, and that's
what makes great records.
515
00:46:50,100 --> 00:46:52,895
It is driven by emotion.
516
00:46:53,145 --> 00:46:55,481
There's nothing plastic
about it, you know.
517
00:46:55,606 --> 00:46:58,609
There's nothing contrived about it.
518
00:46:58,693 --> 00:47:01,478
And, I think that's what
is giving it its,
519
00:47:01,488 --> 00:47:05,366
or maybe one of the things
that's given it its longevity.
520
00:48:19,232 --> 00:48:22,902
But that's not to say that potential for
the sun to shine doesn't exist.
521
00:48:23,110 --> 00:48:25,488
You know, walk down the
path towards the light
522
00:48:25,655 --> 00:48:28,282
rather than walking into the darkness.
523
00:48:28,783 --> 00:48:30,827
There is no dark side on the moon really,
524
00:48:31,202 --> 00:48:33,955
matter of fact, it's all dark.46238
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