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There's a long history behind
the origins of giallo films.
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The name derives from the
yellow cover of
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the crime novels published
by Mondadori.
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Back in 1929, Mondadori,
who was and still is
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a pretty important
publishing company,
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started releasing a
series of crime novels
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and detective stories.
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These books had very
recognizable covers,
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they were colored
in yellow
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with a circle in the middle
that featured a drawing
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related to the plot or
the tone of the story
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that people were
about to read.
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This is to explain that the
usage of the term "giallo"
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originates from literature.
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It's not like it was
used all of a sudden.
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The Italian public started
using it in the late 1920s,
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when the country was still
under the Fascist regime,
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and since then
they've gotten used to
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calling every crime story
a "giallo",
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every mystery,
or detective tale.
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A giallo is like a
puzzle or a gamble.
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Its plot has to
intrigue the reader,
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and make him busy trying to
figure out
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the identity of the culprit
before the writer
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tells him at the end of
the book or film.
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Of course, the writer
isn't allowed to cheat.
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Otherwise, the story won't be
a giallo anymore,
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but instead a tale
of suspense.
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To call it a giallo, the
story must be logical.
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No cheap solutions.
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It's got to be made in a
certain way,
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so anyone who goes through
it a second time
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can notice all the clues
they missed the first time.
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To solve the case
or find the culprit.
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My artistic education began with
American films of the 50s.
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I was a college student
back then,
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before I attended the
National Film School.
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I must have seen all the
masterpieces made by Fox,
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Warner Brothers, and RKO.
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Even now, I still buy
those films on DVD.
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Back then, I saw all of Elia
Kazan's early pictures
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and Don Siegel's
early ones.
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Or, let me think,
there were so many.
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Raoul Walsh's and William
Dieterle's films too.
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All those directors
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who started out
in the 30s,
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and made their best
films in the 40s.
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They used black and white
in such a wonderful way.
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The cinematographers back
then were people
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like Harry Stradling
or Nicholas Musuraca.
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Their use of black and white
cinematography was amazing.
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I was really impressed by those
giallos set in big cities
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that were made between
1945 and 1950.
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Robert Siodmak was the
best at making those.
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He directed
THE SPIRAL STAIRCASE.
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And the one with
the twins
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that was called
THE DARK MIRROR.
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It's the one where Olivia de
Havilland plays two characters.
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A giallo must have a
precise mechanism.
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The worst mistake a writer or
a director can make
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is to cheat with
the plot.
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Maybe I'm exaggerating
a little,
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but my favorite example
of this is
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in THE BIRD WITH THE
CRYSTAL PLUMAGE,
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when the lead can't
remember a detail.
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That detail then becomes the
key to revealing
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the identity of
the killer.
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It creates suspense,
you see.
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And to create it you
don't need logic.
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Suspense can start
from anything.
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Sometimes even Agatha
Christie wasn't logical.
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Take TEN LITTLE INDIANS. It's a
classic, but at some point
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there's a character who fakes
his death, and that's illogical.
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No one could have been
totally sure
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the others wouldn't
find out.
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This means that the
writer is cheating,
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deciding what's logical
and what's not.
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I don't have a problem with
that,
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but then it's just
not a true giallo.
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A true giallo shouldn't
use this kind of trick.
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In reality, it would be hard
to fake your death like that
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without being found out by
any of the other characters.
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That's some suspension of
disbelief right there.
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Even a classic like TEN LITTLE
INDIANS has it,
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and we're talking
about a book
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that's considered a
masterpiece of the genre.
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One of the biggest influences
on Italian giallos
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was the German
krimi films.
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Most krimis were adaptations of
Edgar Wallace stories.
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Germany began producing them
in the early 60s.
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These even predate
Mario Bava's early thrillers.
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When Mario Bava made his first
contemporary thriller in 1963,
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and I'm referring to THE
GIRL WHO KNEW TOO MUCH.
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Krimis had already been
around for a few years,
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predating Italian thrillers.
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Like their early Italian
counterparts, krimis balanced
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very dramatic sequences,
and bursts of graphic violence,
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with lighter comedic scenes.
For instance, think about
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the parts Eddi Arent
played,
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and their function within
the plot.
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He provided comic relief that
allowed the audience
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to relax a little
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until the next
explosion of violence.
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German krimis play
a huge role
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in the history of
Italian giallo.
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Firstly, because those films
were distributed in Italy.
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We could say that they were
preparing the public
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for our own crime
films and thrillers.
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When it comes to the
narrative structure,
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krimis influenced basic
characteristics of giallos.
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Krimis too had killers
whose faces we don't see.
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The focus is mostly on their
hands and other details.
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Krimis too had black-gloved
killers,
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another essential element
of giallos.
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The same goes for the peculiar
weapons used for the killings.
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Unconventional ones,
at least compared
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to those used in classic
crime films.
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Krimis featured weapons
such as knives,
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or even arrows, like in a
film titled THE GREEN ARCHER.
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And so killers were depicted
in a new, unique way,
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which was another important
element of Italian thrillers.
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Murder was being shown
in a new way,
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starting with the weapons
used to commit it.
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This is one of the things that
giallos borrowed from krimis.
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And, as I said, krimis were
born from crime literature,
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since most of them were
Edgar Wallace adaptations.
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Edgar Wallace was also the
man who created King Kong.
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Curiously, the early Italian
giallo writers were authors
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like Francesco Mastriani or
Carolina Invernizio,
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who were well known for
their serial fiction,
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or stories published
in installments.
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These works were sold
at newsstands,
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or their equivalent
at the time.
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This kind of literature
was extremely popular,
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even amongst
the lower classes.
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This shows how popular Italian
giallos were back then.
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Of course, we also had
some authors who
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specialized in writing
giallos.
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One of those was Augusto De
Angelis, in the 30s.
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His stories were set in Italy
and were often tales of murder.
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This defied convention, of
the squeaky clean image
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the regime imposed on
every story set in Italy.
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Augusto De Angelis
himself was a victim
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of the regime's
violence.
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He was beaten to death
by a Fascist activist.
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De Angelis was the first to
write murder tales set in Italy,
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and he did it
under that regime.
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His stories were never
adapted for the screen
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because he was an
inconvenience to the regime.
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After the war, another writer
continued De Angelis' legacy.
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His name was
Giorgio Scerbanenco,
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another great crime and
giallo author.
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Some of his novels have been
adapted for the screen.
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I'm going to go out on a limb
and say that Scerbanenco
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was the greatest Italian
writer of mystery stories,
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or giallos, if you prefer.
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Genres aside, I must add that
he was quite a good writer.
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I read some of his
non-crime stuff,
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he did a lot of
different things.
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Personally, I don't care much
about his romance novels.
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That's because I don't
like the genre.
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I love his five novels with the
character of Duca Lamberti.
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I also like his short stories,
some of them are great.
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In particular, IL CENTODELITTI,
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Italy only discovered, or
rediscovered him,
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after he became famous
in France.
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Mario Bava is considered the
first Italian giallo director.
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Bava used different
approaches to his giallos.
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A film like THE WHIP AND THE
BODY can be considered a giallo.
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An atypical one, perhaps,
for its setting
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and also because it is full
of the same gothic elements
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that were present in Bava's
previous film, BLACK SUNDAY.
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THE GIRL WHO KNEW TOO MUCH is
the first Italian giallo
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in the "classic" sense.
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The film was an inspiration for
Dario Argento when making
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THE BIRD WITH THE CRYSTAL
PLUMAGE.
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Mario Bava's inspiration was
to set the story in Italy.
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THE GIRL WHO KNEW TOO MUCH is
still a black and white film.
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The colors that characterized
the genre were yet to come.
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That's why one of Bava's next
films is considered to be
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an even better example
of giallo cinema.
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The film is BLOOD AND BLACK
LACE, and it features a killer
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whose methodology set a
standard for every
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Italian giallo that
followed.
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The killer emerges from the
shadows, dressed in black.
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His gloves are black, too,
and he mostly uses blades.
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These elements were copied
by many giallos.
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My father, and myself too, even
after all these years
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have a deep love for
BLOOD AND BLACK LACE.
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I believe it is a
genuine classic.
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Only a few moments aren't as
strong as the rest, I must say.
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It took me twenty or thirty
years to rewatch A BAY OF BLOOD.
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I stumbled upon it a few years
ago, I don't remember where.
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You know how it is, sometimes
you stumble upon
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a good copy being
screened.
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This cinema was showing the
film to a young audience.
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When the film ended, we all
agreed it felt so fresh,
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like it just came out.
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Compared to some other
films of the time,
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it's still incredibly modern.
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And we also noticed what a
ruthless film it still is.
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It even inspired a subgenre of the
American horror film.
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While FRIDAY THE 13th became
a worldwide phenomenon
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A BAY OF BLOOD
remained a cult film.
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My father had never been
that successful with films.
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With A BAY OF BLOOD, also
known as ECOLOGY OF CRIME,
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Bava approached the genre
in a totally different way.
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The film could be considered
the beginning of slasher cinema.
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It's a giallo, where the
violence is graphic, excessive.
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There's an overabundance of it,
especially compared to the plot.
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That's how Bava reinvigorated
the genre yet again.
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He did it in the 70s after
doing it in the 60s.
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Then, towards the end of his
career, he did a noir,
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RABID DOGS.
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The film had issues
with censorship.
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As it often is with
great innovators,
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Bava challenged the
convention of his time.
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You cannot think of
Italian giallos
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without considering
censorship.
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It had an influence on
the genre,
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at least until the early 60s.
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The situation improved
during the early 70s.
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All thanks to Pasolini.
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After the censors dealt
with the films
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he made in the 70s they were
more lenient towards giallos.
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He challenged the relentless
censorship of the time.
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As so his efforts helped other
directors work more freely,
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especially when it came
to showing violence or sex,
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unlike what had been the
norm before then.
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Therefore, we can say that Bava
is one of the originators
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of Italian giallo films.
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Bava had the aesthetic
understanding of a painter.
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He started out
as a cinematographer.
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That's why he was so invested
in visual structure.
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Before Argento, Bava was
perhaps the first director
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to favor visuals over plot.
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Bava's main goal was to
find the best visual way
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to show the murders.
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He found an aesthetic
for murder.
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That was more important to him
than having a tight plot
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like in a British giallo novel.
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Naturally, Bava's films were
crafted with
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a foreign audience in mind.
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His films were made for an
international audience.
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Right from the start,
Italian giallo directors
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hired well-known foreign
actors.
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Think about John Saxon in
THE GIRL WHO KNEW TOO MUCH.
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Saxon acted in several
giallos, including
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a late entry in
the genre.
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I'm referring to Dario Argento's
TENEBRAE, made in 1983.
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Giallos were past their prime, but
Argento kept making them
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well into the 80s
and 90s.
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2000s, too. He kept making them
well after the genre
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stopped being popular.
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The genre was past its
prime, after reaching
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its peak of popularity in the
early 70s, thanks to Mario Bava.
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Bava was, without a doubt, the
originator
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of the Italian giallo genre.
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Chronologically
speaking, after Bava,
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Dario Argento is the most
important giallo director.
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With THE BIRD WITH THE
CRYSTAL PLUMAGE,
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Argento introduced the
golden age of giallos.
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Bava can be considered
Argento's precursor,
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but his films, mainly
THE GIRL WHO KNEW TOO MUCH
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and BLOOD AND
BLACK LACE,
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didn't generate momentum
within the genre.
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That happened with THE BIRD
WITH THE CRYSTAL PLUMAGE,
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Argento followed in Bava's
footsteps,
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setting the film in Italy.
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He also staged unique murders,
with the body count
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growing throughout
the film.
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He orchestrated the murders
in a dreamlike way.
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That broke with convention,
with the established
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rules of the genre,
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both narrative and
visual rules.
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It initiated a change
within the genre,
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and that's the reason so many
giallos were produced in Italy
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after Argento's first film.
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We screened the movie at
Titanus after wrapping it.
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Lombardo, the boss, was
there with his staff.
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My father was there, too.
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I didn't go, I was afraid it
would end badly.
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And that's just what
happened.
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They watched the film and really
disliked it,
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especially Lombardo.
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He just didn't like it.
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He declared the film was
neither giallo nor thriller.
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He said he didn't know
what genre it was.
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Lombardo kept saying that.
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I think he wasn't ready to watch
something as modern as my film.
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Especially given that
it was a giallo,
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my film had a new approach,
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both in terms of the visual
style. and in the storytelling.
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How it presented the
characters and the twists,
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and how it depicted
violence, too.
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It was a new approach.
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That's why Lombardo
didn't like it.
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He was even upset
with my father.
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They all stepped out of
the screening room,
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and Lombardo locked himself
and his staff in an office.
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My father waited outside the
room with Cesarina,
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Lombardo's longtime
secretary.
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It was around breakfast, and
she was eating a sandwich.
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She had watched the film, and
her hands were shaking
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as she held the sandwich.
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My father asked her if
something was wrong.
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She replied that the
film really scared her.
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She said she was still shocked.
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My father told Lombardo
to ask Cesarina,
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because she was part of
the audience.
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So he talked to her and,
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for a moment, it seemed
he might change his opinion.
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That didn't last long,
because he later said
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that he didn't
believe her.
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He said he didn't know what
could be done,
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as the film had been
already completed.
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He hoped that it would at least
appeal to a small audience.
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I must say that, at
least initially,
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the public didn't
like the film that much.
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I mean, it was my first film,
nobody knew my name.
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Musante was barely
more famous.
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It wasn't seen as a film that
could be successful.
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We had the first showings
in Milan and Turin,
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big and important
Italian cities.
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It went horribly.
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They started to pull
it out of theaters.
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My father stamped his feet
and asked
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to keep trying in
different cities.
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cities such as
Florence or Naples.
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Those new cinemas started
showing it.
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Meanwhile, Lombardo wasn't
in Italy,
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he was on a business
trip.
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So, the film was being shown
in Florence and Naples.
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We went to Florence.
It was my last hope.
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Otherwise, I'd have gone
back to being a screenwriter.
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As we got closer to
the theater,
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we saw a lot of people
walking in the same direction.
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We asked ourselves what
was going on.
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They were all going to
see the film.
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Apparently, people
liked it
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and started spreading the
news around.
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Florence isn't that
big of a city.
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That last showing was
packed full of people.
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They even applauded
at the end.
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That filled our hearts
with joy.
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It didn't happen by chance.
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They didn't like the film in
the other cities
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because they didn't
understand it.
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The next day we went to
Naples and we learned that
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the same thing happened
there. The cinema was packed.
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The audience loved the
film and clapped.
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That's how the film
found its own way.
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It started to be a hit
everywhere, even in Rome.
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That's when I got a
call from Lombardo.
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He complimented me, said that
we hung in there, and in the end
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we had made a hit, and I was
getting the success I deserved.
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Then he asked me to start
working on the next film
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immediately.
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I guess there was some
hypocrisy on his part.
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"I'm starting to
fear that Italian."
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That's what Alfred Hitchcock,
the Master of Suspense,
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said after watching
Dario Argento's debut.
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And that masterpiece
was...
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THE BIRD WITH THE CRYSTAL
PLUMAGE.
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A film made by Dario
Argento, the director
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who opened a new and
shocking dimension of fear.
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What new elements did Argento
add to the Italian giallo genre?
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Why do we say that his first
film was the model
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for every Italian giallo
that followed?
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In my opinion, we can say so
because Argento
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basically created a list
of elements
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and tropes that would define
the genre from that point on.
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As well as recreating
the giallo, he created
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a code for the others
to follow.
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Naturally, he also kept using
some of the elements
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established by Bava.
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There's a series of elements
that Argento
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started using in
his first film.
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First of all, the
look of the killer.
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The killer is dressed
in all black:
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hat, trenchcoat and
gloves.
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He mostly uses blades
to kill his victims.
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Having a mysterious,
black-clad killer
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that moves in the shadows would
become one of the most
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recognizable traits of
Italian giallos.
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That can also be said
for another element,
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which is the attention to
the staging of the murders.
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From that point on, all
Italian giallo murders
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would be choreographed.
Literally.
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Great care was devoted
to staging them.
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These murder scenes have
become pure visual elements.
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Beautiful artistic displays
detached from a realistic plot.
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Each one is an expressionistic
display of its own.
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Not only was the visual
aesthetic
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of the murders
changed,
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but they increased
in number as well.
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From that point on, Italian
giallos would always feature
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a substantial number of
killings committed
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by the culprits.
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That's a departure from
what happens
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in more traditional
films or books.
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00:24:49,905 --> 00:24:51,406
The guilty parties are
often revealed to be the ones
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00:24:51,531 --> 00:24:53,116
that the audience doesn't
expect.
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00:24:53,241 --> 00:24:55,202
In THE BIRD WITH THE CRYSTAL
PLUMAGE, for instance,
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the killer is a woman.
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This is one of the elements that
made the film so original
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00:25:01,791 --> 00:25:05,795
in comparison to more
traditional genre pictures.
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Another element that was
introduced in the genre
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by Dario Argento's film is
showing the killer's P.O.V.
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It forces the viewer to see
what the killer sees.
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Before that, the technique
wasn't widely used in giallos.
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Argento introduced it
in order to show
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the story from more
angles.
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He also "fakes" some points
of view,
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in order to keep viewers on
their toes,
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and make them fear
that the killer
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will pop out from
anywhere.
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It's one of the hallmarks of
Argento's and other giallos.
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The killer jumps out when
you least expect it.
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You could say for this reason
Argento's and other giallos
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aren't as rational
in terms of plot.
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But we're less interested in
plot holes than strong visuals
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when we watch Italian
giallos,
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especially in regards
to violence.
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This aesthetic of violence can
be seen in the murder scenes.
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Another important element
found in Italian giallos,
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one that was introduced
in Dario Argento's
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THE BIRD WITH THE CRYSTAL
PLUMAGE, is the soundtrack.
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00:26:36,845 --> 00:26:41,725
The soundtrack is no longer
just traditional film music,
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00:26:42,017 --> 00:26:46,688
it becomes more than just
incidental,
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00:26:46,896 --> 00:26:49,983
more than just accompaniment.
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It somehow makes silence
expressive.
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00:26:55,488 --> 00:27:00,160
This new musical style also
makes innovative use of noise.
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00:27:00,368 --> 00:27:04,289
Master composers like Morricone,
or Bruno Nicolai,
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00:27:04,414 --> 00:27:09,919
exploited noises to
intensify the effect
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00:27:10,045 --> 00:27:16,509
of their music to
create suspense.
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00:27:16,926 --> 00:27:19,929
The music builds to
a crescendo of terror,
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00:27:20,013 --> 00:27:22,557
which is essential to any
Italian giallo
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regardless of
whom the director is.
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And, in his first film,
Dario Argento managed
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to make the soundtrack yet
another expressive element,
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where even silence
speaks volumes.
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It was a radical break from
traditional scores.
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Another element
introduced in
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THE BIRD WITH THE
CRYSTAL PLUMAGE,
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this is something
Argento adopted
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00:27:50,251 --> 00:27:53,630
from German krimis, is a bit
of comic relief.
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00:27:54,089 --> 00:27:59,928
The presence of comedic or
light-hearted moments appear
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to make the violence seem
even more explosive.
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In THE BIRD WITH THE CRYSTAL
PLUMAGE we have characters
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like Addio, the pimp,
played by Gildo Di Marco,
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or Berto Consalvi, the
painter, played by Mario Adorf,
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who add comedic elements
to the giallo.
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These elements lighten the
plot a bit,
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and are typical of
Italian cinema.
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It has been said that all our
films have comedy in them,
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even neorealist ones.
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00:28:33,712 --> 00:28:36,715
Even a very dramatic film like
ROME, OPEN CITY
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00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:38,883
has some lighter bits.
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As when Aldo Fabrizi hits a
bedridden old man
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on the head with
a pan
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because the fascists are
about to storm
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into the room they're in.
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00:28:51,813 --> 00:28:57,026
So, the comedic moments
introduced in Argento's debut
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reappeared in many later
Italian thrillers.
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00:29:00,905 --> 00:29:05,160
The other important element
introduced by Dario Argento
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is a nonlinear
narrative plot.
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00:29:08,997 --> 00:29:13,460
Cause-and-effect relationships
aren't essential in giallos,
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00:29:13,585 --> 00:29:16,629
at least compared
to traditional ones.
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Even the murders happen
in a nonlinear way.
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Ever since Argento's debut, when
we watch an Italian giallo
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we see a film where the
killer could come from anywhere.
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Even when we think that all is
safe and locked up tight.
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00:29:38,526 --> 00:29:42,363
Even then, the killer
could appear from anywhere!
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00:29:42,489 --> 00:29:46,242
There's a constant feeling
of unease,
476
00:29:46,451 --> 00:29:50,079
a constant feeling
of helplessness.
477
00:29:50,205 --> 00:29:53,750
That is very typical
of Italian giallos.
478
00:29:53,917 --> 00:29:58,546
In an Italian giallo, you don't
feel safe even in your own home.
479
00:29:58,838 --> 00:30:02,550
The viewer knows that, and
that the killer
480
00:30:02,717 --> 00:30:05,220
might appear anytime.
481
00:30:05,595 --> 00:30:10,558
In the two films that followed,
Argento remained faithful to
482
00:30:10,809 --> 00:30:14,979
the conventions he
introduced in his debut.
483
00:30:15,188 --> 00:30:18,733
THE CAT O' NINE TAILS and
FOUR FLIES ON GREY VELVET.
484
00:30:18,942 --> 00:30:22,278
We could say that the former
has a more "classic" feel
485
00:30:22,362 --> 00:30:23,822
than Argento's debut.
486
00:30:23,988 --> 00:30:29,994
Whereas the latter is the
start of Argento's
487
00:30:30,161 --> 00:30:34,374
visionary horror phase.
488
00:30:34,582 --> 00:30:38,753
DEEP RED partially inaugurated
this new phase,
489
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:40,797
which came to fruition
with SUSPIRIA.
490
00:30:40,964 --> 00:30:43,341
FOUR FLIES ON GREY VELVET has
an element of precognition
491
00:30:43,508 --> 00:30:45,510
which is typical of the
cinema of the fantastic.
492
00:30:45,635 --> 00:30:51,349
I'm talking about
foresight, or even
493
00:30:51,599 --> 00:30:56,271
the metamorphosis
of reality.
494
00:30:56,521 --> 00:30:59,065
After this first trilogy
of giallos,
495
00:30:59,232 --> 00:31:02,110
and we can call it a trilogy
496
00:31:02,235 --> 00:31:06,489
due to the use of animals
in the titles:
497
00:31:06,781 --> 00:31:09,993
the bird, the cat,
and the flies,
498
00:31:10,243 --> 00:31:12,120
after this trilogy.
I was saying,
499
00:31:12,287 --> 00:31:15,832
Argento transitioned to
horror films
500
00:31:15,957 --> 00:31:18,501
to films with more
fantastical elements,
501
00:31:18,751 --> 00:31:19,752
starting with DEEP RED.
502
00:31:19,836 --> 00:31:22,130
DEEP RED is an important
film
503
00:31:22,255 --> 00:31:24,007
in the history of Italian
cinema.
504
00:31:24,132 --> 00:31:27,719
It seems to encompass
our whole film tradition.
505
00:31:27,844 --> 00:31:32,098
It's no coincidence that it was
written by Bernardino Zapponi,
506
00:31:32,223 --> 00:31:37,312
who worked on
some Fellini films.
507
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:41,107
Zapponi added his own layer of
the fantastic
508
00:31:41,274 --> 00:31:43,401
to Argento's films.
509
00:31:43,526 --> 00:31:47,113
DEEP RED, of course, is
still a thriller.
510
00:31:47,363 --> 00:31:51,659
And so the murders must have
a logical explanation,
511
00:31:51,784 --> 00:31:54,078
despite the plot being
nonlinear compared
512
00:31:54,203 --> 00:31:56,205
to standard crime films.
513
00:31:56,414 --> 00:31:58,333
It was the perfect
screenplay.
514
00:31:58,499 --> 00:32:03,254
It had no downtime, and the
characters were fleshed out.
515
00:32:03,463 --> 00:32:10,094
That's not something you
find in every giallo.
516
00:32:10,219 --> 00:32:12,680
Giallo characters can
often be two-dimensional.
517
00:32:12,889 --> 00:32:14,390
In DEEP RED, they
were all developed.
518
00:32:14,515 --> 00:32:16,768
David Hemmings' character had
his own temperament,
519
00:32:16,851 --> 00:32:18,311
mine had another, and so on.
520
00:32:18,519 --> 00:32:23,399
At the time, when I
played a character,
521
00:32:23,733 --> 00:32:26,861
I took inspiration
from the director.
522
00:32:26,945 --> 00:32:31,491
I took inspiration
from Elio Petri
523
00:32:31,658 --> 00:32:36,204
when I made PROPERTY IS
NO LONGER A THEFT.
524
00:32:36,329 --> 00:32:38,539
Dario had me playing
a journalist,
525
00:32:38,665 --> 00:32:41,334
so he drew upon a time
when he was one himself.
526
00:32:41,417 --> 00:32:44,879
He kept waving his hands
frantically, like an elf,
527
00:32:45,004 --> 00:32:46,798
an inspiration for my
character from
528
00:32:46,923 --> 00:32:48,716
.an existing woman
journalist,
529
00:32:48,841 --> 00:32:51,135
and also from Dario, who
moved like a neurotic.
530
00:33:01,437 --> 00:33:05,900
I created something like
complicity with my audience.
531
00:33:07,902 --> 00:33:14,367
I basically told them, right
from the start
532
00:33:15,159 --> 00:33:17,453
that they were about
to witness a series of
533
00:33:17,537 --> 00:33:21,207
scenes and situations
that are highly unlikely.
534
00:33:22,583 --> 00:33:28,965
Unlikely, because I was
channeling my nightmares
535
00:33:29,215 --> 00:33:31,801
and my imagination.
536
00:33:33,094 --> 00:33:34,887
The viewer was required to
enter my nightmares.
537
00:33:35,346 --> 00:33:37,557
That's what I told
my audience.
538
00:33:37,765 --> 00:33:42,020
And I also assured them
that they would like it.
539
00:33:51,237 --> 00:33:53,281
Everyone hated the
idea of the puppet.
540
00:33:53,740 --> 00:33:56,534
My father, my brother, and my
production designer
541
00:33:56,617 --> 00:33:57,994
all hated it.
542
00:33:58,369 --> 00:34:02,331
They all begged me to not
shoot the puppet scene.
543
00:34:03,082 --> 00:34:05,835
They said that the film
was good,
544
00:34:06,377 --> 00:34:07,879
that it was powerful stuff,
545
00:34:08,254 --> 00:34:12,175
but kept begging and begging
me to forget the puppet.
546
00:34:13,801 --> 00:34:20,058
But I persisted, and asked
the great Carlo Rambaldi.
547
00:34:20,349 --> 00:34:24,937
He won two Oscars later
on, working in the US.
548
00:34:25,063 --> 00:34:27,690
We're talking about the man
who created E.T.
549
00:34:28,733 --> 00:34:33,112
I asked him to create a puppet
capable of walking
550
00:34:33,237 --> 00:34:35,156
and moving its head.
551
00:34:35,323 --> 00:34:38,284
A sort of automaton.
552
00:34:38,785 --> 00:34:42,038
Rambaldi was a very talented
engineer and
553
00:34:42,622 --> 00:34:44,457
quite a cultured man.
He said "yes", and succeeded
554
00:34:44,832 --> 00:34:46,876
in building
this walking puppet
555
00:34:47,043 --> 00:34:49,670
that could move
its head.
556
00:35:02,725 --> 00:35:05,645
I always found great pleasure
in cinematic violence.
557
00:35:05,728 --> 00:35:06,813
It's a cathartic feeling.
558
00:35:06,938 --> 00:35:10,858
Compared to the horrible things
that happen in real life,
559
00:35:11,109 --> 00:35:13,736
or what you see
on the news,
560
00:35:14,487 --> 00:35:17,824
the aesthetic of murder
can give you great pleasure.
561
00:35:17,907 --> 00:35:19,951
Look at the fake blood.
562
00:35:20,034 --> 00:35:22,370
Everyone knows it's fake,
although not as obvious
563
00:35:22,537 --> 00:35:23,871
as tomato sauce.
564
00:35:23,955 --> 00:35:25,957
But it's a very expensive
nail polish
565
00:35:26,082 --> 00:35:29,710
made by Max Factor, that
you have to use according to
566
00:35:29,961 --> 00:35:32,964
the lights in order to
grade the tones of red.
567
00:35:33,506 --> 00:35:38,219
It creates a great,
interesting feeling.
568
00:35:38,594 --> 00:35:42,431
There must be something
special in my films.
569
00:35:43,015 --> 00:35:48,688
I guess my films have
nine lives, like cats.
570
00:35:49,564 --> 00:35:54,527
There must be something that
makes them unforgettable.
571
00:35:54,902 --> 00:35:59,532
And something too that
attracts new viewers.
572
00:35:59,991 --> 00:36:06,164
There have been some recent
screenings around the world.
573
00:36:06,789 --> 00:36:13,754
I went to Pisa, Italy, and the
theater was packed with people.
574
00:36:14,213 --> 00:36:17,383
So many people...
575
00:36:17,967 --> 00:36:20,094
And in America as well.
576
00:36:20,261 --> 00:36:26,350
And also some screenings
in other countries.
577
00:36:26,851 --> 00:36:29,896
The audience is very young.
578
00:36:30,938 --> 00:36:33,107
Some have watched my
films on DVD.
579
00:36:33,232 --> 00:36:36,402
For others it's the first time,
but they've heard of them.
580
00:36:36,736 --> 00:36:42,658
This new, younger audience
is an interesting lot.
581
00:36:43,201 --> 00:36:44,827
Very interesting...
582
00:36:45,161 --> 00:36:47,663
I don't know why my films
are still liked,
583
00:36:47,747 --> 00:36:49,415
like SUSPIRIA or OPERA.
584
00:36:49,874 --> 00:36:53,544
The audience continues to like
my films
585
00:36:53,753 --> 00:36:58,049
and find interest
in them.
586
00:36:58,841 --> 00:37:02,970
I mean, tastes change,
so I wonder what it is.
587
00:37:03,179 --> 00:37:10,895
Maybe because I tell stories
that come from deep inside me.
588
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:15,608
I don't tell stories that
come from other sources,
589
00:37:16,025 --> 00:37:21,781
except for the occasional
homage to certain directors,
590
00:37:22,073 --> 00:37:26,160
or to certain old
films that I like, but
591
00:37:26,953 --> 00:37:31,999
I take inspiration
from within,
592
00:37:32,375 --> 00:37:35,044
from my subconscious,
593
00:37:35,336 --> 00:37:38,422
which guides me in what to
say and what story to tell.
594
00:37:38,756 --> 00:37:43,928
When it happens, I don't know if
there's a meaning or symbolism.
595
00:37:44,053 --> 00:37:46,973
I don't immediately understand,
but
596
00:37:47,098 --> 00:37:49,892
it comes to me
gradually, in time.
597
00:37:50,559 --> 00:37:54,522
With SUSPIRIA and INFERNO,
Argento focused
598
00:37:54,689 --> 00:37:56,524
on fantastical themes.
599
00:37:56,649 --> 00:38:02,571
In 1983, with TENEBRAE, he
returned to the thriller genre.
600
00:38:02,655 --> 00:38:05,574
More recently, he directed
another thriller, GIALLO.
601
00:38:05,741 --> 00:38:10,955
Given that title, GIALLO,
it clearly follows in the steps
602
00:38:11,289 --> 00:38:14,959
of classic giallos
and thrillers.
603
00:38:15,042 --> 00:38:18,087
Naturally, over the years,
both Italian
604
00:38:18,212 --> 00:38:20,214
and international
cinema
605
00:38:20,339 --> 00:38:22,049
have undergone
profound changes,
606
00:38:22,216 --> 00:38:24,427
as has Dario Argento
himself.
607
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,555
Therefore, the new,
revolutionary driving force
608
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:32,101
behind his first films
has been inevitably lost.
609
00:38:32,351 --> 00:38:35,354
The Argento of today is a
very different director
610
00:38:35,646 --> 00:38:38,274
than the one he once was.
611
00:38:38,482 --> 00:38:42,987
He's still a great director,
and one still able to draw on
612
00:38:43,279 --> 00:38:47,241
with an extraordinary visionary
gift, and an ability
613
00:38:47,408 --> 00:38:51,746
to make a film in which
aesthetics prevail over
614
00:38:51,912 --> 00:38:54,123
traditional narrative
structure.
615
00:38:54,332 --> 00:38:57,626
He remains among the greats
of international cinema.
616
00:38:58,294 --> 00:39:01,714
Well, Argento doesn't like me,
though I don't understand why.
617
00:39:01,839 --> 00:39:03,382
It's an odd thing.
618
00:39:03,924 --> 00:39:06,635
Why doesn't he like me? I mean,
if he thinks I'm nothing
619
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,554
then he shouldn't even
be talking about me.
620
00:39:08,637 --> 00:39:10,181
Instead, he hates my guts.
621
00:39:10,389 --> 00:39:11,849
Okay, he doesn't really
hate me.
622
00:39:11,974 --> 00:39:14,226
Argento doesn't hate anyone,
he just loves himself.
623
00:39:14,393 --> 00:39:18,564
I think that Argento is a
great craftsman,
624
00:39:18,731 --> 00:39:21,067
who believes he's
an artist.
625
00:39:21,317 --> 00:39:23,527
Hitchcock, on the other hand,
was an artist who believed
626
00:39:23,652 --> 00:39:24,987
he was a craftsman.
627
00:39:25,404 --> 00:39:28,574
That's why I think Argento will
do the same things forever.
628
00:39:28,741 --> 00:39:30,743
He's very good with
public relations.
629
00:39:30,868 --> 00:39:32,703
The young people like him.
630
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:34,955
He also uses a certain kind of
music in his films
631
00:39:35,289 --> 00:39:36,999
that other horror
directors,
632
00:39:37,083 --> 00:39:40,252
including American
ones, would never use.
633
00:39:40,586 --> 00:39:46,425
I like modern music, I have
young kids,
634
00:39:46,550 --> 00:39:49,804
Argento's children are
younger than mine,
635
00:39:50,179 --> 00:39:53,182
but I believe that his use
of music is fake.
636
00:39:53,307 --> 00:39:55,351
He's the same with
other things.
637
00:39:55,601 --> 00:39:59,271
I think that he is a good
director and a terrible writer.
638
00:39:59,438 --> 00:40:01,440
People often say the opposite,
but I think
639
00:40:01,565 --> 00:40:03,442
he's a terrible writer.
640
00:40:03,776 --> 00:40:07,780
Among the most important Italian
directors that made giallo,
641
00:40:07,947 --> 00:40:09,532
we must remember
Lucio Fulci.
642
00:40:09,698 --> 00:40:13,327
He approached the genre before
Argento, with a film called
643
00:40:13,494 --> 00:40:15,246
ONE ON TOP OF THE OTHER.
644
00:40:15,329 --> 00:40:18,082
Fulci realized his original
vision without
645
00:40:18,290 --> 00:40:20,835
being influenced by Argento.
646
00:40:21,168 --> 00:40:23,921
Argento's success with his
first film aided
647
00:40:24,046 --> 00:40:26,132
Fulci's subsequent films,
because
648
00:40:26,257 --> 00:40:28,634
after Argento's debut
was a hit,
649
00:40:28,801 --> 00:40:30,886
the genre became very
lucrative.
650
00:40:31,053 --> 00:40:34,098
The public demanded more
giallos, and wanted them
651
00:40:34,181 --> 00:40:36,225
to be set in our country.
652
00:40:36,308 --> 00:40:39,061
My first giallo was
ONE ON TOP OF THE OTHER.
653
00:40:39,186 --> 00:40:41,230
The Producer chose
the title.
654
00:40:41,355 --> 00:40:44,108
Edmondo Amati was a good
producer,
655
00:40:44,233 --> 00:40:46,026
though he didn't know what
a giallo was.
656
00:40:46,152 --> 00:40:49,113
I consider mine to be the second
Italian giallo. The first was
657
00:40:49,196 --> 00:40:51,699
THE SWEET BODY OF DEBORAH,
directed by Romolo Guerrieri
658
00:40:51,991 --> 00:40:55,911
and produced by my
friend, Luciano Martino.
659
00:40:56,203 --> 00:40:59,832
He's always said we need to
do more giallos in Italy.
660
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,751
He stopped making them, at
some point, but now he's back.
661
00:41:03,127 --> 00:41:06,797
ONE ON TOP OF THE OTHER, also
known as PERVERSION STORY,
662
00:41:07,756 --> 00:41:12,553
is perhaps the first Italian
giallo with a studied mechanism.
663
00:41:13,220 --> 00:41:16,557
When the film came out,
everyone was scared
664
00:41:16,724 --> 00:41:21,228
of what would happen,
Amati included.
665
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:26,400
They were scared because of the
way the film was constructed.
666
00:41:26,817 --> 00:41:28,444
Personally, I love
the script,
667
00:41:28,569 --> 00:41:30,029
which took eight months
to write.
668
00:41:30,112 --> 00:41:32,448
Originally, we had a deal to do
a comedy for this producer,
669
00:41:32,490 --> 00:41:33,991
but when our actor,
Ugo Tognazzi, backed out,
670
00:41:34,116 --> 00:41:35,576
we decided to do
a giallo instead.
671
00:41:35,784 --> 00:41:37,620
A lighter giallo, something
similar to
672
00:41:37,745 --> 00:41:39,371
THE SWEET BODY
OF DEBORAH.
673
00:41:39,497 --> 00:41:41,081
I never would have imagined
it would become
674
00:41:41,332 --> 00:41:44,168
an example of
screenwriting technique.
675
00:41:44,752 --> 00:41:47,838
We worked as hard as we could,
and we often made mistakes.
676
00:41:47,963 --> 00:41:49,924
I believe you could remake
the movie now,
677
00:41:50,049 --> 00:41:51,425
and avoid the mistakes
we made.
678
00:41:51,550 --> 00:41:53,427
The narrative mechanism
is still solid.
679
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:59,141
For the first time, the police
aren't involved in the plot.
680
00:42:00,309 --> 00:42:03,145
Cops aren't that capable
in my films, they never
681
00:42:03,229 --> 00:42:05,648
manage to catch anyone.
682
00:42:06,190 --> 00:42:13,072
They always make bad mistakes,
like the Carabinieri policemen
683
00:42:13,197 --> 00:42:15,366
in DON'T TORTURE A
DUCKLING.
684
00:42:15,866 --> 00:42:18,661
In EROS PERVERSION, the real
enigma is within
685
00:42:18,827 --> 00:42:23,082
the protagonists and we
see it by what they do,
686
00:42:23,374 --> 00:42:28,587
by their attitudes and
their psychological gestures.
687
00:42:29,046 --> 00:42:31,048
Some of Argento's films
follow these rules, too.
688
00:42:31,423 --> 00:42:33,926
After ONE ON TOP OF THE OTHER,
Lucio Fulci made
689
00:42:34,176 --> 00:42:37,304
a series of films that were
very different from each other.
690
00:42:37,429 --> 00:42:41,141
His giallos were, indeed, quite
different from each other.
691
00:42:41,267 --> 00:42:46,480
For instance, A LIZARD IN A
WOMAN'S SKIN was very dreamlike.
692
00:42:46,605 --> 00:42:51,193
Whereas, DON'T TORTURE A
DUCKLING was very realistic.
693
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,863
Starting with the setting,
deep in southern Italy.
694
00:42:55,030 --> 00:42:57,449
These two films couldn't
be more different.
695
00:42:57,616 --> 00:43:02,580
In A LIZARD IN A WOMAN'S SKIN
we have a female lead,
696
00:43:02,830 --> 00:43:05,416
played by Florinda Bolkan.
697
00:43:05,666 --> 00:43:07,918
We often have a number of
important female characters
698
00:43:08,085 --> 00:43:10,296
in Fulci's giallo films.
699
00:43:10,546 --> 00:43:13,215
Naturally, female characters
in giallos are often
700
00:43:13,424 --> 00:43:16,468
even more "exposed"
than their male counterparts
701
00:43:16,677 --> 00:43:19,930
to the violence
inflicted by the killers.
702
00:43:20,389 --> 00:43:23,684
The success of my previous
giallo allowed me
703
00:43:23,976 --> 00:43:26,270
to do A LIZARD IN
A WOMAN'S SKIN.
704
00:43:26,437 --> 00:43:29,523
Amati trusted me to
do the film.
705
00:43:30,316 --> 00:43:37,114
Argento had already done what
were perhaps his best giallos
706
00:43:37,781 --> 00:43:39,617
THE BIRD WITH THE CRYSTAL
PLUMAGE
707
00:43:39,742 --> 00:43:41,035
and THE CAT O' NINE TAILS.
708
00:43:41,118 --> 00:43:44,121
LIZARD and CAT were released
around the same time.
709
00:43:44,204 --> 00:43:46,248
People loved animal titles.
710
00:43:46,540 --> 00:43:48,792
LIZARD wasn't a hit. If I made
8 million in a theater,
711
00:43:48,959 --> 00:43:50,836
he made 12 in another.
712
00:43:51,670 --> 00:43:54,089
It was still good and, back
then the industry
713
00:43:54,214 --> 00:43:55,799
was a happier place.
714
00:43:55,883 --> 00:43:58,093
His film made more
because it was gorier.
715
00:43:58,135 --> 00:43:59,511
My film had only a couple
of strong scenes.
716
00:43:59,637 --> 00:44:01,680
Again, I preferred to focus
on the mechanism.
717
00:44:01,805 --> 00:44:03,515
It's one of my fixations.
718
00:44:03,932 --> 00:44:10,022
DON'T TORTURE A DUCKLING is
more of a psychoanalytic film.
719
00:44:10,147 --> 00:44:11,607
There's a theme of repression.
720
00:44:11,690 --> 00:44:14,777
After all, the murderer
repressing his guilt
721
00:44:14,943 --> 00:44:19,156
is one of the pivotal
elements of Italian giallos.
722
00:44:19,365 --> 00:44:22,034
DON'T TORTURE A DUCKLING
was a huge hit.
723
00:44:22,326 --> 00:44:24,370
It even won an important
award.
724
00:44:24,703 --> 00:44:30,501
It was an attempt to create a
giallo in a rural setting.
725
00:44:30,918 --> 00:44:34,546
I told a similar theme in
my best film,
726
00:44:34,838 --> 00:44:36,757
THE CONSPIRACY OF TORTURE.
727
00:44:37,049 --> 00:44:41,011
Nobody remembers it, it's
not even on VHS.
728
00:44:41,220 --> 00:44:43,389
I'd pay you if you could
find me a copy.
729
00:44:43,931 --> 00:44:46,684
Anyway, in THE CONSPIRACY OF
TORTURE, I showed
730
00:44:46,850 --> 00:44:53,107
how papal power condemned a man to both
death and eternal damnation.
731
00:44:53,607 --> 00:44:56,276
In DUCKLING, the priest kills
the kids because
732
00:44:56,944 --> 00:44:59,154
he wants them to go
to heaven.
733
00:44:59,279 --> 00:45:01,490
That's the theme that got me
the award I mentioned.
734
00:45:01,949 --> 00:45:03,701
I really love the film.
735
00:45:03,826 --> 00:45:05,285
There are many subtleties.
736
00:45:05,661 --> 00:45:07,371
At some point, I even reveal
the identity of the killer.
737
00:45:07,454 --> 00:45:09,164
It's when the priest walks
with Milian,
738
00:45:09,289 --> 00:45:10,791
I might not remember
the exact scene.
739
00:45:11,250 --> 00:45:13,460
Anyway, the priest tells him
that he doesn't allow
740
00:45:13,544 --> 00:45:15,129
the sale of porn magazines,
and that he doesn't want
741
00:45:15,212 --> 00:45:16,463
the children to grow up.
742
00:45:17,047 --> 00:45:20,217
He wants them to remain pure
and innocent forever.
743
00:45:20,342 --> 00:45:23,721
That's why the film begins
with the bells ringing,
744
00:45:23,846 --> 00:45:25,848
the children at confession,
745
00:45:26,056 --> 00:45:31,770
and the modern highway that
divides this unreal land in two.
746
00:45:32,396 --> 00:45:35,941
Concerning the character of the
local witch, believe it or not,
747
00:45:36,150 --> 00:45:38,610
I wanted to set
the film in Turin,
748
00:45:38,861 --> 00:45:42,656
where these southern
superstitions still exist.
749
00:45:43,157 --> 00:45:45,492
They still exist as
a matter of fact,
750
00:45:45,701 --> 00:45:47,911
in the big cities of the north,
among southern immigrants,
751
00:45:48,412 --> 00:45:51,582
I personally saw little
ceremonies of Italian voodoo
752
00:45:51,582 --> 00:45:52,583
taking place.
753
00:45:52,624 --> 00:45:53,876
They did them in grungy
courtyards and buildings,
754
00:45:54,001 --> 00:45:55,002
where the southern laborers
755
00:45:55,377 --> 00:45:56,712
that work for FIAT lived.
756
00:45:57,087 --> 00:46:03,260
It was the first film produced
by Medusa Film. They did well.
757
00:46:03,510 --> 00:46:05,554
It was my first thriller.
758
00:46:07,055 --> 00:46:14,229
I wanted to make something new
after so many comedies.
759
00:46:14,855 --> 00:46:19,902
I remember they made me
change the color of my hair.
760
00:46:19,985 --> 00:46:22,821
As you can see they dyed it
almost red,
761
00:46:23,113 --> 00:46:25,240
styled long and straight.
762
00:46:25,449 --> 00:46:32,706
So, this was my first
thriller and, thankfully,
763
00:46:33,791 --> 00:46:37,669
it became a big hit.
764
00:46:38,337 --> 00:46:41,131
Of course, DON'T TORTURE A
DUCKLING was
765
00:46:41,340 --> 00:46:43,050
very different from
a comedy.
766
00:46:44,218 --> 00:46:49,556
I was really trying to
diversify my range of roles,
767
00:46:49,723 --> 00:46:51,934
but it wasn't
always possible.
768
00:46:52,100 --> 00:46:55,646
DON'T TORTURE A DUCKLING
was different,
769
00:46:55,854 --> 00:46:57,898
I also liked the cast.
770
00:46:58,106 --> 00:47:00,400
And I played the role.
771
00:47:09,660 --> 00:47:14,164
I liked the idea of working
with Tomas Milian,
772
00:47:14,414 --> 00:47:17,668
and with Irene Papas, who
I greatly admired.
773
00:47:18,085 --> 00:47:21,672
Also Florinda Bolkan, who
was at the top of her game then.
774
00:47:22,130 --> 00:47:25,884
I must say I didn't know
who Fulci was at first,
775
00:47:26,093 --> 00:47:28,971
I never knew who the
directors were.
776
00:47:29,054 --> 00:47:32,307
I was a foreigner working
in Italy.
777
00:47:33,809 --> 00:47:35,978
The only way I had to
determine if a project
778
00:47:36,270 --> 00:47:38,272
would be good was to look
at the script,
779
00:47:38,397 --> 00:47:39,857
or watch the directors'
previous films.
780
00:47:39,982 --> 00:47:41,441
Or trust my agent's word.
781
00:47:42,401 --> 00:47:44,319
Fulci was a little nutty.
782
00:47:46,989 --> 00:47:53,412
He was a bit grouchy.
783
00:47:54,663 --> 00:47:57,040
He had his moments of anger.
784
00:47:59,751 --> 00:48:03,088
I never had any problems
with him.
785
00:48:03,255 --> 00:48:07,009
He never got angry with me.
786
00:48:07,718 --> 00:48:11,054
I do remember my first few
days on the set.
787
00:48:11,221 --> 00:48:13,515
I got sick.
788
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:19,229
I had to stay in bed. I'm about
to repeat some old gossip.
789
00:48:19,605 --> 00:48:23,108
A little film within the film.
790
00:48:25,319 --> 00:48:29,156
There was, I don't remember
well, I think
791
00:48:29,364 --> 00:48:31,909
it was the costume
designer who
792
00:48:32,117 --> 00:48:35,579
came into my room and
told me I had to
793
00:48:35,913 --> 00:48:39,041
to see something
outside.
794
00:48:40,959 --> 00:48:44,004
I was so weak, I said I would
see it the next day.
795
00:48:44,338 --> 00:48:47,925
She insisted that I had
to get up and go see.
796
00:48:48,967 --> 00:48:55,182
So I did, I got up out of bed.
Outside, by the pool,
797
00:48:55,390 --> 00:49:00,187
I saw this big,
muscular man.
798
00:49:00,437 --> 00:49:01,939
So handsome and tall.
799
00:49:02,230 --> 00:49:04,983
"Nice view," I said.
800
00:49:05,359 --> 00:49:09,363
"He came with Irene Papas,"
she told me.
801
00:49:09,571 --> 00:49:11,990
"Not bad," I said, and
that was it.
802
00:49:12,783 --> 00:49:19,706
A short time later, however,
I found out that Irene
803
00:49:20,290 --> 00:49:25,253
had developed a crush
on Tomas.
804
00:49:27,089 --> 00:49:29,466
Yes, Tomas...
805
00:49:29,883 --> 00:49:32,094
He had his wife with him.
806
00:49:32,594 --> 00:49:35,847
Irene had such a big crush
on him, that
807
00:49:36,181 --> 00:49:38,558
she dumped the
beefcake.
808
00:49:39,267 --> 00:49:41,770
So I stepped in and took
him for myself.
809
00:49:42,312 --> 00:49:47,275
He was free, she was busy with
Tomas. Finders keepers.
810
00:49:48,443 --> 00:49:51,279
I won that battle.
811
00:49:51,947 --> 00:49:56,493
Eventually, there were these
huge fights between
812
00:49:56,952 --> 00:50:01,289
Irene, Tomas, and his wife.
813
00:50:02,374 --> 00:50:08,046
So many fights, at the
hotel, at night...
814
00:50:08,755 --> 00:50:10,215
We kept ourselves busy.
815
00:50:10,340 --> 00:50:12,175
You said you've seen one of
my best, and.
816
00:50:12,300 --> 00:50:13,969
least successful films,
SETTE NOTE IN NERO.
817
00:50:14,011 --> 00:50:15,721
Its American title is
THE PSYCHIC.
818
00:50:16,346 --> 00:50:18,849
The French title is
L'EMMURE'E VIVANTE.
819
00:50:19,474 --> 00:50:23,103
It was such a painful
production for all of us.
820
00:50:23,270 --> 00:50:25,564
I even had some personal
troubles.
821
00:50:25,731 --> 00:50:27,691
It happened because I made a
film about challenging fate.
822
00:50:27,774 --> 00:50:28,859
You should never do that.
823
00:50:28,984 --> 00:50:31,528
Polanski once told me that,
while I challenged fate,
824
00:50:31,695 --> 00:50:34,531
he made a film that
challenged the Devil,
825
00:50:34,823 --> 00:50:37,826
another thing you should
never do.
826
00:50:38,118 --> 00:50:44,041
I'd shoot it again tomorrow.
I love a solid structure.
827
00:50:44,416 --> 00:50:49,296
The film came out, but
nobody cared.
828
00:50:50,172 --> 00:50:53,050
It was a great disappointment
for us all because,
829
00:50:53,175 --> 00:50:56,303
let's be honest... THE PSYCHIC
is a little gem of a giallo.
830
00:50:56,970 --> 00:51:00,223
I'm always thinking remake
potential,
831
00:51:00,432 --> 00:51:03,393
and I think you could build
some incredible films on
832
00:51:03,685 --> 00:51:05,812
that narrative framework.
833
00:51:05,979 --> 00:51:07,939
Because, really, the film is
essentially a modern take
834
00:51:08,106 --> 00:51:10,984
on Edgar Allan Poe's
THE TELL-TALE HEART.
835
00:51:11,318 --> 00:51:16,615
It uses a music box instead
of a heart,
836
00:51:16,740 --> 00:51:19,034
but the spirit of Poe
remains
837
00:51:19,201 --> 00:51:22,829
in the use of something
unusual to help uncover a crime.
838
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,499
It's a classic device.
839
00:51:25,791 --> 00:51:31,213
It works because that device
is both simple,
840
00:51:31,296 --> 00:51:32,672
yet loaded with meaning.
841
00:51:32,798 --> 00:51:35,634
I love this film, it's probably
the best one I did with Lucio.
842
00:51:36,051 --> 00:51:39,888
That's what I think. Others
might beg to differ.
843
00:51:40,514 --> 00:51:45,894
I did 8 films with him, and
I think this is the only
844
00:51:46,269 --> 00:51:49,773
"round" one. It works
perfectly.
845
00:51:49,940 --> 00:51:51,858
The only one where it
all makes sense.
846
00:51:52,025 --> 00:51:53,944
The others aren't as perfect.
847
00:51:54,027 --> 00:51:56,822
They might have been more
successful or more exciting,
848
00:51:57,072 --> 00:51:58,865
but they're not
as "round".
849
00:51:59,157 --> 00:52:04,079
This film has also
something I really love,
850
00:52:04,830 --> 00:52:08,708
and it's a trace
of the supernatural.
851
00:52:09,709 --> 00:52:13,255
The movie starts off as a
traditional giallo,
852
00:52:13,338 --> 00:52:14,798
with a murder.
853
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:20,137
There's nothing unusual, it's a
story just like any other.
854
00:52:20,595 --> 00:52:24,766
If anything, like many stories,
it might seem a bit prosaic,
855
00:52:25,308 --> 00:52:30,438
because, ultimately, it's
a meditation on human misery.
856
00:52:30,981 --> 00:52:37,571
Yet, the film has this
supernatural vibe, and it
857
00:52:37,863 --> 00:52:40,949
revolves around fate,
destiny, and so on.
858
00:52:41,116 --> 00:52:42,492
Different stuff than usual.
859
00:52:43,118 --> 00:52:45,495
This allows the plot to
transcend the limitations
860
00:52:45,704 --> 00:52:47,622
of common criminality.
861
00:52:47,873 --> 00:52:54,212
It also evokes a different set
of feelings about the murders.
862
00:52:54,421 --> 00:52:57,591
You know you're looking at
something different.
863
00:52:58,049 --> 00:53:01,970
I just loved that,
and Lucio knew it.
864
00:53:02,512 --> 00:53:06,892
THE PSYCHIC, which can
genuinely be defined as
865
00:53:07,142 --> 00:53:09,060
a truly great film.
866
00:53:09,227 --> 00:53:12,689
It marks an important
transition in Fulci's career.
867
00:53:12,856 --> 00:53:17,277
Sort of a rite of passage,
separating the realism
868
00:53:17,402 --> 00:53:24,951
of the giallos, from a cinema
that is more overtly horrific.
869
00:53:25,118 --> 00:53:29,331
As you know, after shooting
THE PSYCHIC in 1977,
870
00:53:29,456 --> 00:53:32,918
Fulci shifted to films
like ZOMBIE,
871
00:53:33,084 --> 00:53:36,171
CITY OF THE LIVING
DEAD, and THE BEYOND.
872
00:53:36,338 --> 00:53:41,051
THE PSYCHIC, despite
the giallo elements
873
00:53:41,343 --> 00:53:45,180
in the script written by
Gianviti and Sacchetti,
874
00:53:45,263 --> 00:53:48,934
was a sort of bridge
to more fantastical films.
875
00:53:49,059 --> 00:53:54,356
There's a female protagonist
in THE PSYCHIC,
876
00:53:54,731 --> 00:53:56,816
played by Jennifer O'Neill.
877
00:53:57,025 --> 00:53:59,152
She experiences visions of a
future that might
878
00:53:59,277 --> 00:54:02,113
actually be the past, or
both at the same time.
879
00:54:02,322 --> 00:54:06,868
Therefore, this intentionally
confusing narrative timeframe
880
00:54:06,993 --> 00:54:10,789
could be defined as one of
the key elements of the film.
881
00:54:10,956 --> 00:54:14,376
The film explores more
fantastical territory,
882
00:54:14,501 --> 00:54:19,506
but it's still a giallo, even
if it's not as realistic
883
00:54:19,881 --> 00:54:22,884
as Fulci's previous work,
such as ONE ON TOP OF ANOTHER,
884
00:54:23,093 --> 00:54:27,264
A LIZARD IN A WOMAN'S SKIN, and
DON'T TORTURE A DUCKLING.
885
00:54:27,347 --> 00:54:30,809
Those films are examples of
Fulci's incredible
886
00:54:30,934 --> 00:54:32,602
visionary talent.
887
00:54:32,727 --> 00:54:35,230
As well as his willingness
to show the cruelty of
888
00:54:35,397 --> 00:54:38,650
the murders, which was
another key element
889
00:54:38,817 --> 00:54:44,072
of the whole Italian
giallo genre.
890
00:54:44,406 --> 00:54:48,618
Moreover, he retained certain
elements from previous films.
891
00:54:48,702 --> 00:54:51,830
Let's not forget that Fulci
worked in almost every genre,
892
00:54:51,955 --> 00:54:53,581
very much like
Sergio Martino
893
00:54:53,665 --> 00:54:55,250
and many Italian
genre directors,
894
00:54:55,417 --> 00:54:58,795
with the exception
of Dario Argento.
895
00:54:59,212 --> 00:55:06,720
Fulci started doing thrillers
after directing many comedies
896
00:55:07,012 --> 00:55:10,807
starring Italian comedians
Franco and Ciccio.
897
00:55:10,974 --> 00:55:14,102
We can say that he was
a mainstream director who,
898
00:55:14,227 --> 00:55:17,355
thanks to his unique vision,
created giallos
899
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:20,608
that captivated
audiences by merging
900
00:55:20,734 --> 00:55:23,153
elements of genre with
those of mainstream cinema.
901
00:55:23,278 --> 00:55:28,867
Following these films, Fulci
refined his vision
902
00:55:28,992 --> 00:55:32,162
to create his
horror masterpieces,
903
00:55:32,287 --> 00:55:34,789
made in the late 70s
and 80s.
904
00:55:35,415 --> 00:55:38,001
There's something my daughter
says about MURDER-ROCK....
905
00:55:38,126 --> 00:55:40,337
I mean my older one, not the
one who works with me,
906
00:55:40,462 --> 00:55:43,882
and will probably become
a director soon.
907
00:55:45,091 --> 00:55:49,095
Anyway, she says that it feels
like a good American TV series.
908
00:55:49,262 --> 00:55:50,221
She's right.
909
00:55:50,430 --> 00:55:54,267
Yes, it feels like the end of
an era, and I knew I had
910
00:55:54,434 --> 00:55:58,730
to reinvent myself and
the things I was doing.
911
00:55:59,105 --> 00:56:02,525
I mean, times were changing.
912
00:56:03,610 --> 00:56:05,862
Like my daughter said, with
MURDER-ROCK I did something
913
00:56:05,987 --> 00:56:08,531
that looked like it was
an episode out of a
914
00:56:08,573 --> 00:56:10,617
good American crime series.
915
00:56:10,992 --> 00:56:13,119
She felt it was no more
than that,
916
00:56:13,203 --> 00:56:15,830
but I was trying to do
something different.
917
00:56:25,548 --> 00:56:28,927
There are some directors who
only made a few giallos.
918
00:56:29,052 --> 00:56:32,180
One of the most important
was Duccio Tessari.
919
00:56:32,472 --> 00:56:35,600
He made a film based on a novel
by Giorgio Scerbanenco,
920
00:56:35,725 --> 00:56:37,727
DEATH OCCURED LAST NIGHT.
921
00:56:43,001 --> 00:56:45,568
The novel was very
well-known.
922
00:56:45,902 --> 00:56:51,658
Its Italian title is I MILANESI
AMMAZZANO AL SABATO.
923
00:56:51,699 --> 00:56:54,577
Lombardo, who distributed the
film, feared that mentioning
924
00:56:54,661 --> 00:56:58,123
the Milanese people might
put off potential viewers
925
00:56:58,248 --> 00:57:00,375
from other regions.
926
00:57:01,251 --> 00:57:05,797
That's why the title was changed
to DEATH OCCURRED LAST NIGHT.
927
00:57:06,464 --> 00:57:08,967
Tessari and I suggested it,
because it's
928
00:57:09,175 --> 00:57:11,469
a quote from the film.
929
00:57:11,928 --> 00:57:14,305
Given that we had to change
the title,
930
00:57:14,389 --> 00:57:17,142
it was the best possible choice.
931
00:57:17,809 --> 00:57:23,314
I'm happy that, in recent years,
most film critics and viewers
932
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:27,986
have started to consider it
the best film adaptation
933
00:57:29,154 --> 00:57:32,323
from Scerbanenco's novels
with Duca Lamberti.
934
00:57:32,532 --> 00:57:37,871
Out of all the Italian
giallo directors,
935
00:57:38,288 --> 00:57:39,998
Luciano Ercoli was one
of the first.
936
00:57:40,123 --> 00:57:41,124
He was also a producer, and
when he started
937
00:57:41,249 --> 00:57:45,503
directing he had already
produced some interesting
938
00:57:45,712 --> 00:57:52,260
Italian Westerns directed
by Duccio Tessari.
939
00:57:52,427 --> 00:57:54,804
The films Ercoli directed are
elegant,
940
00:57:55,096 --> 00:57:57,849
and quite Hitchcockian in style.
941
00:57:58,224 --> 00:58:01,519
His style was refined and
his choice of music
942
00:58:01,853 --> 00:58:05,148
was equally sophisticated.
943
00:58:05,315 --> 00:58:10,695
We could say that his films
are "deluxe packages."
944
00:58:11,404 --> 00:58:13,406
Spanish actress Nieves Navarro was
the mainstay of these films.
945
00:58:13,531 --> 00:58:15,200
She usually adopted an
anglicized pseudonym,
946
00:58:15,366 --> 00:58:16,743
Susan Scott.
947
00:58:16,993 --> 00:58:18,328
Ercoli's films, DEATH WALKS AT
MIDNIGHT,
948
00:58:18,703 --> 00:58:20,455
DEATH WALKS ON HIGH
HEELS, and
949
00:58:20,580 --> 00:58:24,459
FORBIDDEN PHOTOS OF A LADY
ABOVE SUSPICION,
950
00:58:24,792 --> 00:58:29,047
are very sophisticated
works.
951
00:58:29,297 --> 00:58:32,759
We could say that, as
a director,
952
00:58:32,926 --> 00:58:37,222
Ercoli marries Argento's
innovations
953
00:58:37,472 --> 00:58:42,310
with his own elegant and
stylized mise-en-scene.
954
00:58:42,519 --> 00:58:46,314
These films were also
quite successful.
955
00:58:46,481 --> 00:58:49,025
I always liked doing
thrillers.
956
00:58:49,234 --> 00:58:54,572
Crime films too, but I did
those after the thrillers.
957
00:58:54,948 --> 00:58:58,159
Thrillers were the
trend in those years.
958
00:58:58,409 --> 00:59:03,790
Especially after Dario
Argento's ascension.
959
00:59:04,165 --> 00:59:07,293
Many of us directors tried
to follow in his footsteps.
960
00:59:07,585 --> 00:59:15,385
That's how I started doing
thrillers, in my own little way.
961
00:59:20,682 --> 00:59:26,187
I found it a bit difficult.
It was my directorial debut.
962
00:59:26,521 --> 00:59:30,358
The script wasn't much help, and
the dialogue was very spare.
963
00:59:30,650 --> 00:59:34,487
I had to turn that into
an hour and forty minute film,
964
00:59:34,696 --> 00:59:39,492
so I wound up with
a lot of slow parts.
965
00:59:39,951 --> 00:59:43,162
I didn't have that problem
in my next film.
966
00:59:43,580 --> 00:59:46,583
I always liked noir films.
I really love them.
967
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:51,170
From the old ones with Richard
Widmark and Orson Welles,
968
00:59:51,337 --> 00:59:52,964
to the new ones.
969
00:59:53,214 --> 00:59:58,219
Luciano gave me the script, I
read it, and loved my character.
970
00:59:58,970 --> 01:00:01,055
I found it funny, and really
interesting.
971
01:00:11,190 --> 01:00:13,818
I had already acted in some of
the films Luciano produced,
972
01:00:13,985 --> 01:00:16,821
but it was the first time I
worked in a film he directed.
973
01:00:18,197 --> 01:00:20,783
He was a very demanding
director, you know.
974
01:00:21,743 --> 01:00:26,998
Maybe he thought I was Ingrid
Bergman or someone like that.
975
01:00:27,290 --> 01:00:33,463
Even if I wasn't Ingrid Bergman,
he was still very demanding
976
01:00:33,588 --> 01:00:35,632
with me and
Dagmar Lassander.
977
01:00:36,090 --> 01:00:37,592
We didn't pay too much
attention to him,
978
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:39,010
and just did the best
that we could.
979
01:00:39,177 --> 01:00:43,431
I had a good relationship with
Ernesto Gastaldi,
980
01:00:43,806 --> 01:00:45,308
the screenwriter.
981
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:49,354
We had already worked together,
and I felt I could trust him.
982
01:00:49,562 --> 01:00:58,321
He wasn't a great writer, but
he had some good,
983
01:00:58,446 --> 01:01:02,950
even very good ideas when it
came to giallos or thrillers.
984
01:01:03,451 --> 01:01:08,873
The development wasn't
always as good.
985
01:01:09,332 --> 01:01:14,128
Yet, you could still see they
were proper giallos
986
01:01:14,253 --> 01:01:15,088
or thrillers.
987
01:01:15,380 --> 01:01:19,175
In addition to Ercoli, we
could mention Aldo Lado.
988
01:01:19,342 --> 01:01:21,427
Among other giallo
directors,
989
01:01:21,594 --> 01:01:24,597
Lado directed an atypical
giallo,
990
01:01:24,722 --> 01:01:26,849
SHORT NIGHT OF GLASS DOLLS.
991
01:01:27,141 --> 01:01:29,560
The film is set in Prague,
a great location
992
01:01:29,686 --> 01:01:31,020
with an eerie, magical feeling.
993
01:01:31,145 --> 01:01:32,563
The lead character is
played by Jean Sorel.
994
01:01:32,689 --> 01:01:34,524
The film feels like a waking
nightmare.
995
01:01:34,732 --> 01:01:36,567
Its twist ending is somewhat
similar to
996
01:01:36,693 --> 01:01:39,153
the ending of Wilder's
Sunset Boulevard.
997
01:01:39,404 --> 01:01:42,949
And, maybe its beginning too,
an homage to Sunset Boulevard.
998
01:01:43,116 --> 01:01:48,830
Another giallo directed by
Lado is WHO SAW HER DIE?
999
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:58,548
That film is set in Venice,
which is an ideal location
1000
01:01:58,798 --> 01:02:04,762
for that kind of thriller,
a city on water, one that feels
1001
01:02:05,179 --> 01:02:09,642
almost apart from the
rest of the world.
1002
01:02:09,851 --> 01:02:13,604
That film has such rich
atmosphere.
1003
01:02:13,688 --> 01:02:17,734
Its protagonist, George
Lazenby, had played 007 once,
1004
01:02:17,775 --> 01:02:20,319
although without great
success.
1005
01:02:20,653 --> 01:02:24,574
It's a film that shows Lado's
understanding
1006
01:02:24,699 --> 01:02:26,743
of the schematics of
the genre.
1007
01:02:26,909 --> 01:02:31,581
Giuliano Carnimeo was among
the one-time giallo directors.
1008
01:02:31,706 --> 01:02:34,459
He is best known for his
enjoyable westerns,
1009
01:02:34,667 --> 01:02:38,087
mostly starring
George Hilton.
1010
01:02:38,504 --> 01:02:42,049
Despite directing only one
giallo, Carnimeo's film
1011
01:02:42,425 --> 01:02:44,969
is considered to be one
of the best examples of
1012
01:02:45,052 --> 01:02:47,221
Italian giallo.
1013
01:02:47,346 --> 01:02:51,642
THE CASE OF THE BLOODY IRIS
stars Edwige Fenech,
1014
01:02:51,726 --> 01:02:56,481
and it's a film where the
schematics of the
1015
01:02:56,606 --> 01:02:59,609
Italian giallo are
well-calibrated.
1016
01:02:59,734 --> 01:03:03,404
The soundtrack is
incredible, too.
1017
01:03:03,613 --> 01:03:09,660
The film unifies all the
elements of Italian giallos.
1018
01:03:09,786 --> 01:03:14,165
Being a mainstream director,
Carnimeo is particularly adept
1019
01:03:14,290 --> 01:03:18,628
at tying all of those
elements together.
1020
01:03:18,795 --> 01:03:22,507
The orchestration of the murders
within that mise-en-scene,
1021
01:03:22,590 --> 01:03:25,885
makes this among the
most representative
1022
01:03:26,093 --> 01:03:29,680
examples of 70s
Italian giallo.
1023
01:04:08,803 --> 01:04:12,765
Sergio Martino was among the
first to attain success
1024
01:04:12,849 --> 01:04:15,768
by making giallos.
1025
01:04:15,852 --> 01:04:19,063
Martino's importance can be
attributed to many factors.
1026
01:04:19,230 --> 01:04:22,817
First of all, he's one of
Italian cinema's
1027
01:04:23,109 --> 01:04:25,111
most versatile
craftsmen.
1028
01:04:25,194 --> 01:04:28,948
His first film was a western,
and then between
1029
01:04:29,073 --> 01:04:30,491
the 70s and the 80s
1030
01:04:30,658 --> 01:04:32,201
he was one of the
preeminent
1031
01:04:32,285 --> 01:04:35,371
Italian comedy directors at
least in terms of box office.
1032
01:04:35,496 --> 01:04:37,665
He made films like SUGAR, HONEY,
AND PEPPER,
1033
01:04:37,790 --> 01:04:39,750
and DON'T PLAY WITH TIGERS.
1034
01:04:40,001 --> 01:04:43,671
With his film, THE STRANGE VICE
OF MRS. WARDH,
1035
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:47,675
Martino created a successful
niche with giallos,
1036
01:04:47,758 --> 01:04:49,844
to which he brought
originality.
1037
01:04:50,052 --> 01:04:53,347
It didn't hurt that the film
was produced by his brother,
1038
01:04:53,556 --> 01:04:57,768
Luciano Martino, who only a few
years earlier had produced
1039
01:04:58,019 --> 01:05:01,272
Romolo Guerrieri's THE
SWEET BODY OF DEBORAH.
1040
01:05:01,439 --> 01:05:06,652
We could say that the Martino
"family tradition"
1041
01:05:06,819 --> 01:05:10,448
of making giallos predates
Argento's taking on the genre.
1042
01:05:10,573 --> 01:05:15,328
THE SWEET BODY OF DEBORAH
was the first giallo
1043
01:05:15,411 --> 01:05:17,496
produced by Luciano
Martino after LIBIDO.
1044
01:05:17,663 --> 01:05:22,585
LIBIDO was a gamble made by
Mino Loy and Luciano Martino.
1045
01:05:23,127 --> 01:05:25,004
They each put five
million lire into it.
1046
01:05:25,129 --> 01:05:27,173
A small investment to
make the film.
1047
01:05:27,548 --> 01:05:30,718
One half of the film was
mine and Vittorio Salerno's.
1048
01:05:30,927 --> 01:05:34,388
By that I mean that
we worked for free.
1049
01:05:34,805 --> 01:05:37,642
My wife Mara acted for free,
and we
1050
01:05:37,934 --> 01:05:39,852
only paid Giancarlo Giannini
120k lire.
1051
01:05:40,102 --> 01:05:41,979
Actually, I still owe him 20K.
1052
01:05:42,313 --> 01:05:45,358
If I remember correctly,
Dominique Boschero
1053
01:05:45,441 --> 01:05:48,653
got one million. She
was our lead actress.
1054
01:05:48,986 --> 01:05:51,906
Again, the film was a gamble.
1055
01:05:52,031 --> 01:05:54,909
There was no guarantee we
would make a profit.
1056
01:05:55,117 --> 01:06:00,081
In Italy, we only earned 123
or 153 million.
1057
01:06:00,498 --> 01:06:04,001
The budget was 26 million.
1058
01:06:04,460 --> 01:06:06,879
So it wasn't bad, but
it wasn't much.
1059
01:06:07,088 --> 01:06:09,674
Then, suddenly, on the
foreign market,
1060
01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:13,219
and I don't know how, but the
distributors managed
1061
01:06:13,469 --> 01:06:16,681
to sell LIBIDO everywhere.
1062
01:06:17,223 --> 01:06:19,016
They sold it for big money,
too.
1063
01:06:19,183 --> 01:06:24,939
At that point, Loy and Martino
made an English-dubbed version.
1064
01:06:25,231 --> 01:06:29,068
When they sold it to the
US market for
1065
01:06:29,151 --> 01:06:31,278
35 or 40 thousand dollars,
1066
01:06:31,404 --> 01:06:36,617
it wasn't much at the time, but
more than the film's budget,
1067
01:06:36,826 --> 01:06:40,746
the Americans didn't
want the dubbed version.
1068
01:06:41,122 --> 01:06:43,749
They said that it sounded like a
character was
1069
01:06:43,916 --> 01:06:45,459
dubbed in Sicilian.
1070
01:06:45,626 --> 01:06:48,295
And the character's child in
Milanese.
1071
01:06:48,462 --> 01:06:51,173
We didn't understand that you
can't have a guy from Alabama
1072
01:06:51,340 --> 01:06:53,426
dubbing a character whose
child is dubbed
1073
01:06:53,509 --> 01:06:54,885
by someone from Boston.
1074
01:06:55,094 --> 01:06:58,764
The film had to be redubbed,
but this time the Americans
1075
01:06:58,889 --> 01:07:00,558
did it themselves.
1076
01:07:00,766 --> 01:07:03,477
It was one of the few times
they dubbed a foreign film.
1077
01:07:03,519 --> 01:07:05,271
They tend to use subtitles.
The film did great and
1078
01:07:05,438 --> 01:07:06,856
they sold it worldwide.
1079
01:07:06,939 --> 01:07:08,733
The bottom line is, out of a
26 million lire budget,
1080
01:07:08,858 --> 01:07:10,401
this little film
earned 400 million.
1081
01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:14,655
And then Luciano, who wasn't a
stupid man at all,
1082
01:07:14,989 --> 01:07:16,699
had a bright idea.
1083
01:07:17,033 --> 01:07:21,245
"Giallo is the way", he said,
"let's do more of them, pronto"...
1084
01:07:21,412 --> 01:07:25,332
So THE SWEET BODY OF DEBORAH
was the first giallo
1085
01:07:25,499 --> 01:07:27,918
of the long-running series
produced by Luciano.
1086
01:07:28,127 --> 01:07:30,504
Ernesto Gastaldi can be
considered the top
1087
01:07:30,629 --> 01:07:33,466
screenwriter of giallo
cinema.
1088
01:07:33,591 --> 01:07:35,426
He wrote several solid
screenplays
1089
01:07:35,509 --> 01:07:37,470
for the giallos made in
those years.
1090
01:07:37,553 --> 01:07:39,221
The various directors turned
those stories into
1091
01:07:39,472 --> 01:07:40,848
more elaborate films.
1092
01:07:40,931 --> 01:07:43,893
Nevertheless, all
those scripts written
1093
01:07:44,018 --> 01:07:47,104
by Gastaldi were strong.
1094
01:07:47,229 --> 01:07:50,983
Those films were often full of
visual inventions,
1095
01:07:51,150 --> 01:07:56,697
and that's why they always
needed good scripts,
1096
01:07:56,947 --> 01:08:02,995
like the ones Ernesto
Gastaldi wrote.
1097
01:08:03,579 --> 01:08:05,831
"We're all descendants of
an uninterrupted
1098
01:08:05,915 --> 01:08:08,876
chain of murderers,
whose love to kill
1099
01:08:09,001 --> 01:08:10,586
was instilled in their
blood, just as it could
1100
01:08:10,669 --> 01:08:12,880
be within us too."
- Sigmund Freud
1101
01:08:13,089 --> 01:08:16,884
From its very start, THE
STRANGE VICE OF MRS. WARDH
1102
01:08:17,259 --> 01:08:23,057
differs from Argento's films
in its emphasis on the sexual,
1103
01:08:23,182 --> 01:08:28,938
psychological, and dreamlike
elements.
1104
01:08:29,021 --> 01:08:32,233
These elements recur throughout
the films of Sergio Martino.
1105
01:08:32,358 --> 01:08:34,985
In those years, the director
frequently worked with
1106
01:08:35,069 --> 01:08:39,365
Edwige Fenech, an actress
whose strong physicality
1107
01:08:39,490 --> 01:08:45,579
defined the difference
between Martino's
1108
01:08:45,663 --> 01:08:47,373
and Argento's films in
those days.
1109
01:08:47,623 --> 01:08:52,670
I was the first to meet Edwige
when she came into our office,
1110
01:08:52,795 --> 01:08:57,716
which was also used as a
dubbing studio.
1111
01:08:58,134 --> 01:09:02,847
She was gorgeous, in black
leather pants that were
1112
01:09:02,972 --> 01:09:04,974
unusual back then.
1113
01:09:05,141 --> 01:09:08,269
I told my brother about this
gorgeous girl,
1114
01:09:08,352 --> 01:09:11,605
and he hired her to do a
film called
1115
01:09:11,689 --> 01:09:15,776
THE SINS OF MADAME BOVARY,
which was a collaboration
1116
01:09:15,776 --> 01:09:18,904
between Luciano and another
producer, Alabiso.
1117
01:09:19,196 --> 01:09:22,867
After this film, I believe
she felt grateful
1118
01:09:23,075 --> 01:09:26,495
to Luciano and eventually
got to know him better,
1119
01:09:26,954 --> 01:09:30,416
in the biblical sense.
1120
01:09:30,708 --> 01:09:35,629
She became his partner, and she
became more and more successful.
1121
01:09:35,838 --> 01:09:43,762
Edwige was a buxom,full-figured
girl, and she was working
1122
01:09:43,971 --> 01:09:47,850
in Italy at a time when....
Let me digress a little,
1123
01:09:48,017 --> 01:09:52,688
even seeing a girl showing her
bosoms was almost an event.
1124
01:09:52,897 --> 01:09:55,399
I remember that every time we
went to Paris for a film,
1125
01:09:55,524 --> 01:09:57,735
the first thing the crew did
was buy a copy of Playboy.
1126
01:09:58,027 --> 01:10:02,573
You have to think in the
context of the time.
1127
01:10:02,698 --> 01:10:06,327
In those days, censorship was
finally slightly less
1128
01:10:06,577 --> 01:10:09,496
vicious than it had been.
1129
01:10:09,538 --> 01:10:13,667
Edwige became successful, and
I think she was
1130
01:10:13,792 --> 01:10:18,047
a very good actress in my films,
even if she didn't have
1131
01:10:18,214 --> 01:10:21,592
the physique du role, like the
French say, to play
1132
01:10:21,759 --> 01:10:25,012
the part of a frail-looking,
emaciated girl.
1133
01:10:25,179 --> 01:10:27,806
Maybe I need to escape
from myself.
1134
01:10:27,890 --> 01:10:33,145
These thrillers were often
very interesting films.
1135
01:10:33,562 --> 01:10:39,026
Made with not much money,
but a lot of good will.
1136
01:10:39,401 --> 01:10:43,113
And what came out
was our love for them.
1137
01:10:43,864 --> 01:10:49,703
In the end, they were very
good films that had
1138
01:10:50,037 --> 01:10:57,127
great success, not just
in Italy, but abroad too.
1139
01:10:57,628 --> 01:11:01,632
We were always greatly
surprised by that, because
1140
01:11:01,757 --> 01:11:05,678
we didn't have the means
of big budget films.
1141
01:11:05,886 --> 01:11:11,725
We knew we weren't
actors with big names,
1142
01:11:12,017 --> 01:11:18,399
but our films were seen
both in and outside of Italy.
1143
01:11:18,732 --> 01:11:24,571
I first met Edwige Fenech,
when we were in Tirrenia.
1144
01:11:24,822 --> 01:11:27,157
She was doing a film with
Rosalba Neri,
1145
01:11:27,324 --> 01:11:30,744
and we were staying at
the same hotel.
1146
01:11:30,995 --> 01:11:35,833
I was doing IL BACO DA SETA,
a film with Nadja Tiller.
1147
01:11:36,667 --> 01:11:41,880
We met in the hotel lobby.
1148
01:11:42,548 --> 01:11:45,718
She greeted me and
introduced herself.
1149
01:11:46,218 --> 01:11:51,432
In talking, we learned that we
lived near one another in Rome.
1150
01:11:52,433 --> 01:11:56,520
We became friends, and started
to hang out together.
1151
01:11:57,146 --> 01:12:00,566
I met her family, she met mine.
1152
01:12:03,110 --> 01:12:08,949
Then, one day, Luciano Martino
told me he was crazy about her.
1153
01:12:09,825 --> 01:12:12,870
He begged me to introduce
him to her in exchange
1154
01:12:13,245 --> 01:12:14,538
for doing a film together.
1155
01:12:14,621 --> 01:12:16,915
He promised I'd have had carte
blanche to do a film
1156
01:12:17,041 --> 01:12:18,292
with her in it.
1157
01:12:18,625 --> 01:12:21,420
And that promise became THE
STRANGE VICE OF MRS. WARDH.
1158
01:12:21,754 --> 01:12:24,423
I was in charge of hiring her,
but I had to introduce them.
1159
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:28,093
So I had them meet during a
dinner and we all read
1160
01:12:28,927 --> 01:12:32,556
the script that he brought.
1161
01:12:33,098 --> 01:12:36,018
And that's how they
started working together.
1162
01:12:36,602 --> 01:12:38,479
I think she was great
in those films.
1163
01:12:38,562 --> 01:12:41,273
I made several
films with Hilton.
1164
01:12:41,982 --> 01:12:52,076
And I became friends
with him, his family.
1165
01:12:52,451 --> 01:12:59,166
His wife came with him,
and then his children.
1166
01:12:59,541 --> 01:13:03,045
We were all a big
family, all together.
1167
01:13:03,295 --> 01:13:05,923
I have fond memories of George.
1168
01:13:06,215 --> 01:13:08,467
He's a funny man.
1169
01:13:08,592 --> 01:13:14,014
Edwige Fenech was
every man's dream.
1170
01:13:14,181 --> 01:13:16,934
I had people stopping me in the
streets, telling me how lucky
1171
01:13:17,059 --> 01:13:19,728
I was to do all those
love scenes with her.
1172
01:13:20,020 --> 01:13:25,275
She drove men crazy. Her beauty
was in a class of its own.
1173
01:13:25,692 --> 01:13:28,320
She was fantastic, and
so sexy.
1174
01:13:28,946 --> 01:13:31,240
I remember her as an amazing
woman to which
1175
01:13:31,323 --> 01:13:32,908
I had this great friendship.
1176
01:13:33,826 --> 01:13:40,499
I think Edwige was able to not
feel "naked" when she was
1177
01:13:40,624 --> 01:13:42,835
doing nude scenes.
1178
01:13:43,335 --> 01:13:48,298
I must add that, despite
being a gorgeous woman,
1179
01:13:48,882 --> 01:13:50,926
and no matter how many
people asked me
1180
01:13:51,009 --> 01:13:53,220
what she looked like naked,
1181
01:13:53,762 --> 01:13:55,305
I always saw her as a
sister, perhaps because
1182
01:13:55,431 --> 01:13:56,723
she was my brother's
partner.
1183
01:13:56,807 --> 01:13:59,476
Therefore, I never got a sexual
charge from anything she did.
1184
01:13:59,643 --> 01:14:05,399
A few times, when we were
making a film,
1185
01:14:06,108 --> 01:14:10,696
in order to give the censors
something
1186
01:14:11,029 --> 01:14:16,034
they could cut, without
hurting our picture,
1187
01:14:16,243 --> 01:14:21,707
we shot some more
explicit erotic scenes.
1188
01:14:21,790 --> 01:14:24,418
But this is another matter.
1189
01:14:24,793 --> 01:14:30,382
I always asked to have as few
nude scenes as possible.
1190
01:14:30,924 --> 01:14:33,844
But it seemed as though we
couldn't sell my films
1191
01:14:34,011 --> 01:14:36,054
without a scene of me
taking a shower.
1192
01:14:36,930 --> 01:14:42,728
Most of all, I wanted to
avoid doing love scenes,
1193
01:14:42,853 --> 01:14:47,149
they were what worried
me the most.
1194
01:14:47,316 --> 01:14:50,277
She never had that sort
of problem,
1195
01:14:50,527 --> 01:14:53,113
at least in the films we
made together.
1196
01:14:53,447 --> 01:15:01,205
Her body was so beautiful, and
she showed it on film.
1197
01:15:01,330 --> 01:15:03,457
Everyone knew that people
flocked to
1198
01:15:03,707 --> 01:15:05,459
the theaters to see
her movies.
1199
01:15:05,584 --> 01:15:07,211
They always gave her
a shower scene.
1200
01:15:07,377 --> 01:15:10,464
Love scenes, too.
That's how it was.
1201
01:15:10,672 --> 01:15:14,009
She was and still is a
gorgeous woman.
1202
01:15:14,551 --> 01:15:18,680
It's hard to do a love scene
with a friend.
1203
01:15:19,181 --> 01:15:23,060
We were actually naked
when we did our scenes.
1204
01:15:26,355 --> 01:15:31,443
We always covered our
private parts, of course.
1205
01:15:32,402 --> 01:15:34,905
They put some tape on them.
1206
01:15:35,864 --> 01:15:37,950
Those were good scenes.
1207
01:15:38,075 --> 01:15:43,872
When you act, you think you're
really making love.
1208
01:15:43,997 --> 01:15:48,085
But it was just acting, they
weren't real love scenes.
1209
01:15:48,710 --> 01:15:53,340
Yet, we did our best to make
it look as real as possible.
1210
01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:58,929
THE STRANGE VICE OF MRS.
WARDH was my first giallo.
1211
01:15:59,888 --> 01:16:05,018
The plot was, for the most part,
similar to other giallos.
1212
01:16:05,352 --> 01:16:09,106
Perhaps, not many people
realize it,
1213
01:16:09,273 --> 01:16:12,442
but with his film
LES DIABOLIQUES,
1214
01:16:12,526 --> 01:16:15,153
Henri-Georges Clouzot became
a great source of inspiration.
1215
01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:18,991
I foolishly didn't co-sign
the screenplay of my film.
1216
01:16:19,157 --> 01:16:24,871
This happened a lot in my career
and consequently, I lost money.
1217
01:16:26,915 --> 01:16:32,504
I tried to give it a unique
introduction to make it feel
1218
01:16:32,671 --> 01:16:35,591
less like a TV film, and to
infuse it with more energy.
1219
01:16:35,924 --> 01:16:40,053
To do so, I made up a
parallel story about
1220
01:16:40,137 --> 01:16:47,144
a maniac on the loose
in Vienna killing women.
1221
01:16:47,561 --> 01:16:51,732
Using this tactic to boost
the tension by showing
1222
01:16:51,857 --> 01:16:57,195
murders more frequently
allowed us to avoid
1223
01:16:57,279 --> 01:17:02,075
involving the police
trying to find the killer.
1224
01:17:02,409 --> 01:17:06,496
Writing a book on giallos,
I discovered that
1225
01:17:06,580 --> 01:17:10,375
at least 2000 articles, and
books have been written about
1226
01:17:10,584 --> 01:17:14,129
how to commit a murder
inside a locked room.
1227
01:17:17,007 --> 01:17:19,426
In THE STRANGE VICE OF MRS.
WARDH, I created
1228
01:17:19,718 --> 01:17:22,137
the perfect murder in a
locked room
1229
01:17:22,262 --> 01:17:24,556
using an iced cube!
1230
01:17:24,681 --> 01:17:27,851
It melts, the door locks
itself, and appears
1231
01:17:28,060 --> 01:17:30,354
to have been locked
from the inside.
1232
01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:32,189
The water dries and that's that.
1233
01:17:32,314 --> 01:17:35,734
I've read quite a few murder
scenarios dreamed up
1234
01:17:36,026 --> 01:17:37,235
by other writers.
1235
01:17:37,402 --> 01:17:40,322
Hidden snakes and other
crazy ideas.
1236
01:17:40,864 --> 01:17:44,159
Anyway, that's what giallo is.
1237
01:17:44,618 --> 01:17:49,206
It's about creating a mystery
that people can solve
1238
01:17:49,414 --> 01:17:51,416
if they pay attention.
1239
01:17:51,708 --> 01:17:53,001
Without cheating, of course.
1240
01:17:53,210 --> 01:17:55,128
Sergio Martino directed a
series of very
1241
01:17:55,253 --> 01:17:57,714
successful and stylish
giallos, such as
1242
01:17:57,839 --> 01:18:00,217
THE STRANGE VICE OF MRS.
WARDH, his first, and
1243
01:18:00,509 --> 01:18:03,512
ALL THE COLORS OF
THE DARK.
1244
01:18:03,679 --> 01:18:06,223
As well as YOUR VICE IS
A LOCKED ROOM
1245
01:18:06,556 --> 01:18:10,143
AND ONLY I HAVE
THE KEY before 1973,
1246
01:18:10,268 --> 01:18:14,940
when he directed what he
calls his giallo masterpiece.
1247
01:18:15,190 --> 01:18:20,237
We're talking about an extremely
violent film that even compared
1248
01:18:20,404 --> 01:18:22,155
to today's standards
represents a watershed
1249
01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:23,407
for Italian cinema.
1250
01:18:23,615 --> 01:18:27,911
In 1973, never before had an
Italian film been so violent,
1251
01:18:28,120 --> 01:18:34,418
and then came Sergio
Martino's TORSO.
1252
01:18:34,626 --> 01:18:38,672
TORSO has all the elements of
the Sergio Martino style.
1253
01:18:38,755 --> 01:18:41,550
His cinema speaks a universal
language and appeals
1254
01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:45,345
to an international
audience.
1255
01:18:45,387 --> 01:18:48,014
Martino's films have no borders,
and his specialty
1256
01:18:48,098 --> 01:18:50,684
is to create a world in
which it isn't important to
1257
01:18:50,767 --> 01:18:53,019
pinpoint the exact location.
1258
01:18:53,228 --> 01:18:56,898
His films are mostly
set in Italy.
1259
01:18:57,232 --> 01:18:59,901
TORSO is set in the town
of Perugia.
1260
01:19:00,152 --> 01:19:03,155
Which is an international
environment,
1261
01:19:03,363 --> 01:19:05,073
the University for
Foreigners,
1262
01:19:05,198 --> 01:19:07,826
which is perhaps the most
important cultural
1263
01:19:07,993 --> 01:19:09,703
institution in town.
1264
01:19:09,870 --> 01:19:12,956
In this film, all the elements
that define
1265
01:19:13,039 --> 01:19:20,213
Martino's filmmaking style
are present and very explicit.
1266
01:19:20,505 --> 01:19:25,260
Explicit as the sexuality we
see throughout the film,
1267
01:19:25,427 --> 01:19:29,222
and its emphasis on
graphic violence.
1268
01:19:29,347 --> 01:19:32,559
These elements are filtered
through Martino's
1269
01:19:32,726 --> 01:19:35,687
signature cinematic style.
1270
01:19:35,812 --> 01:19:39,316
As usual in his films, Martino
makes use of a hand-held camera,
1271
01:19:39,441 --> 01:19:40,942
in order to simulate the
frenzied movements
1272
01:19:40,984 --> 01:19:41,943
of the killer.
1273
01:19:41,985 --> 01:19:43,904
In addition to his hand-held
camera,
1274
01:19:43,987 --> 01:19:49,075
we know it's a Martino film
by the visuals, and
1275
01:19:49,326 --> 01:19:54,247
that specific mise-en
scene that defines his style.
1276
01:19:54,414 --> 01:19:58,627
This framing allows his
giallo audience
1277
01:19:58,752 --> 01:20:04,883
to feel a different physical
sensation in every set piece.
1278
01:20:05,175 --> 01:20:09,304
Martino, like Dario Argento,
doesn't offer his viewers
1279
01:20:09,471 --> 01:20:10,597
any guarantees.
1280
01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:12,265
In his films, as with
Guerrieri's
1281
01:20:12,390 --> 01:20:14,226
THE SWEET BODY OF DEBORAH,
1282
01:20:14,351 --> 01:20:18,688
we experience several
twists, and follow false trails,
1283
01:20:19,064 --> 01:20:24,486
the latter a recurring element
common to giallos back then.
1284
01:20:24,611 --> 01:20:27,697
It's like saying that anyone
could be the killer,
1285
01:20:28,073 --> 01:20:31,117
is the person you least expect.
1286
01:20:31,201 --> 01:20:32,702
A university professor
or a woman are
1287
01:20:32,869 --> 01:20:36,289
another element that
characterizes all
1288
01:20:36,373 --> 01:20:39,668
Italian giallos, not
just Martino's films.
1289
01:20:39,793 --> 01:20:44,714
These elements tear at the
fabric of social convention.
1290
01:20:44,881 --> 01:20:49,344
There's not an anthropological
or sociological
1291
01:20:49,553 --> 01:20:51,179
explanation for murder.
1292
01:20:51,346 --> 01:20:53,849
These giallos are detached from
reality, and detached
1293
01:20:54,099 --> 01:20:58,728
also because they never
gave the viewer
1294
01:20:58,979 --> 01:21:02,607
any certainty over how the
identity of the killer
1295
01:21:02,816 --> 01:21:04,192
will be revealed.
1296
01:21:04,442 --> 01:21:06,236
A killer who may be the least
likely suspect.
1297
01:21:13,535 --> 01:21:16,955
One of the most important
Italian giallo directors
1298
01:21:17,122 --> 01:21:19,332
is undoubtedly Umberto Lenzi.
1299
01:21:19,666 --> 01:21:25,755
His first films were aimed at
an international audience,
1300
01:21:25,881 --> 01:21:27,799
and he was one of the
few directors,
1301
01:21:27,924 --> 01:21:32,262
in the 60s, who made Italian
films palatable, you could say
1302
01:21:32,429 --> 01:21:35,181
to a foreign audience.
1303
01:21:35,390 --> 01:21:39,769
Lenzi's actors were often
real international stars
1304
01:21:39,853 --> 01:21:45,025
such as Carroll Baker, who
made Elia Kazan's BABY DOLL,
1305
01:21:45,233 --> 01:21:48,111
or Jean-Louis Trintignant,
one of the most important
1306
01:21:48,194 --> 01:21:49,487
French actors.
1307
01:21:49,571 --> 01:21:53,199
With SO SWEET... SO PERVERSE,
Lenzi created
1308
01:21:53,325 --> 01:21:56,453
what he called his
"uptown giallos".
1309
01:21:56,578 --> 01:22:02,167
These were giallos that were
set in the milieu
1310
01:22:02,375 --> 01:22:05,587
of the upper class.
1311
01:22:05,712 --> 01:22:09,174
These films are often
characterized by a certain
1312
01:22:09,466 --> 01:22:12,093
morbid quality that was
more suggested than shown.
1313
01:22:12,260 --> 01:22:17,641
An obvious example is the way
that Carroll Baker played
1314
01:22:17,724 --> 01:22:19,184
her characters.
1315
01:22:19,351 --> 01:22:23,647
After SO SWEET... SO PERVERSE,
Lenzi made a series
1316
01:22:23,855 --> 01:22:27,692
of similar giallos, such as
PARANOIA, A QUIET PLACE TO KILL,
1317
01:22:27,901 --> 01:22:30,946
SPASMO, and KNIFE OF ICE,
which is
1318
01:22:31,071 --> 01:22:34,115
more Hitchcockian in style
than those other films.
1319
01:22:34,240 --> 01:22:39,412
Then Lenzi made a more
Argentian giallo with EYEBALL.
1320
01:22:39,579 --> 01:22:44,042
He was a great director, who was
never afraid to experiment
1321
01:22:44,167 --> 01:22:46,670
with different kinds
of giallos.
1322
01:22:46,836 --> 01:22:50,090
I've always been an avid
reader of giallo literature.
1323
01:22:50,423 --> 01:22:52,008
Take a look at my library, and
you'll see it's almost
1324
01:22:52,175 --> 01:22:53,134
all giallos.
1325
01:22:53,343 --> 01:22:57,681
I particularly love
Georges Simenon,
1326
01:22:57,931 --> 01:23:00,266
and American hard boiled
writers.
1327
01:23:00,433 --> 01:23:03,436
I mean Raymond Chandler,
and the other famous one.
1328
01:23:03,895 --> 01:23:06,564
I took inspiration from this
style, and used it to
1329
01:23:06,690 --> 01:23:08,525
write my own stuff.
1330
01:23:08,817 --> 01:23:16,866
Naturally, the giallos I made
reflect my stylistic taste.
1331
01:23:17,367 --> 01:23:22,163
My giallos are set in the world
of VIPs, very important persons.
1332
01:23:22,414 --> 01:23:24,374
The upper crust.
1333
01:23:24,708 --> 01:23:28,128
It's a world rife with feelings
of hatred and perverted
1334
01:23:28,336 --> 01:23:29,963
sexual practices.
1335
01:23:30,171 --> 01:23:35,260
Therefore, my "trilogy of VIPs,"
consisting of PARANOIA
1336
01:23:35,593 --> 01:23:37,512
SO SWEET... SO PERVERSE,
1337
01:23:37,887 --> 01:23:39,764
and A QUIET PLACE TO KILL
comes with a very potent
1338
01:23:39,931 --> 01:23:42,267
social message. One that
I've emphasized.
1339
01:23:53,778 --> 01:23:57,240
I wrote the original story for
PARANOIA and adapted
1340
01:23:57,657 --> 01:24:01,494
it as a script with help from
Ugo Moretti,
1341
01:24:01,619 --> 01:24:04,456
a great screenwriter and
novelist.
1342
01:24:04,789 --> 01:24:07,375
Being a co-production, I also
worked with a French writer,
1343
01:24:07,542 --> 01:24:09,169
Marie Claire Solleville.
1344
01:24:09,878 --> 01:24:14,174
We wrote the script and I shot
the film as PARANOIA,
1345
01:24:14,257 --> 01:24:18,094
which was my original title.
1346
01:24:18,970 --> 01:24:23,600
The leading lady was
Carroll Baker,
1347
01:24:23,767 --> 01:24:26,728
a great Hollywood star who was
a very good and professional
1348
01:24:26,853 --> 01:24:29,647
actress and a friend with
whom I kept in touch
1349
01:24:29,814 --> 01:24:30,899
until a few years ago.
1350
01:24:31,024 --> 01:24:33,610
The male lead was a foreign
actor working in Italy,
1351
01:24:33,693 --> 01:24:35,528
Lou Castel.
1352
01:24:35,779 --> 01:24:38,740
The two leads were excellent,
but the supporting cast
1353
01:24:38,990 --> 01:24:43,828
was no less strong with
names like Lilla Brignone
1354
01:24:44,245 --> 01:24:46,081
and Tino Carraro.
1355
01:24:46,414 --> 01:24:51,669
We also had a young French
actress I discovered,
1356
01:24:51,836 --> 01:24:54,047
Colette Descombes.
1357
01:24:54,297 --> 01:24:59,594
She was the plot's pivotal
character.
1358
01:25:00,011 --> 01:25:02,222
Pretending to be Castel's
sister,
1359
01:25:02,347 --> 01:25:05,642
with the two staging these
sexual encounters
1360
01:25:05,892 --> 01:25:08,853
in order to degrade Baker's
character and eventually
1361
01:25:09,020 --> 01:25:11,648
drive her to suicide.
1362
01:25:12,482 --> 01:25:16,069
When the film was screened in
New York and other
1363
01:25:16,319 --> 01:25:20,448
American cities in the
summer of 1969,
1364
01:25:20,782 --> 01:25:22,700
it became a roaring
success.
1365
01:25:23,076 --> 01:25:27,580
The American major who bought
the rights was about to go bust,
1366
01:25:27,914 --> 01:25:31,876
but they made a handsome profit
from my picture and
1367
01:25:32,377 --> 01:25:34,295
subsequentially produced
my war film,
1368
01:25:34,420 --> 01:25:38,258
BATTLE OF THE COMMANDOS
starring Jack Palance.
1369
01:25:40,176 --> 01:25:42,595
When the film was about to be
released here,
1370
01:25:42,679 --> 01:25:46,975
the distributors, who are often
dimwits, said that the title
1371
01:25:47,517 --> 01:25:50,186
"PARANOIA" made them think
of "noia", Italian for "boredom",
1372
01:25:50,395 --> 01:25:53,356
and that a new title was
necessary to attract
1373
01:25:53,565 --> 01:25:55,150
viewers to see the film.
1374
01:25:55,483 --> 01:25:57,944
Sexy films were all the rage
back then, so
1375
01:25:58,194 --> 01:26:00,864
the producer said to
rename it ORGASMO
1376
01:26:01,156 --> 01:26:03,324
as a reflection of the
sexual tension in the film.
1377
01:26:03,533 --> 01:26:05,743
I didn't like it, but
they did it anyway.
1378
01:26:06,244 --> 01:26:08,955
Basically, this act
mutilated the film.
1379
01:26:09,289 --> 01:26:11,875
When it was revived at the
Fiamma Cinema in Rome,
1380
01:26:12,250 --> 01:26:14,252
I think in February...
1381
01:26:14,544 --> 01:26:17,130
It was a huge success. The
people gave us
1382
01:26:17,297 --> 01:26:21,593
a standing ovation during
the last scene.
1383
01:26:21,718 --> 01:26:24,762
A standing ovation. I'm
telling the truth.
1384
01:26:25,013 --> 01:26:27,849
All due to a final twist, no
one saw coming.
1385
01:26:27,974 --> 01:26:32,812
The same happened when it was
shown at the
1386
01:26:33,354 --> 01:26:36,900
Venice Film Festival.
1387
01:26:37,483 --> 01:26:39,277
This was 27 years after the film
was made and nobody
1388
01:26:39,402 --> 01:26:42,155
in the audience guessed the
unthinkable twist that happened.
1389
01:26:42,780 --> 01:26:46,242
The film's success in Italy
drove Paramount
1390
01:26:46,326 --> 01:26:47,994
to buy the rights.
1391
01:26:48,244 --> 01:26:51,039
Not Paramount, sorry, I meant
Commonwealth United.
1392
01:26:51,206 --> 01:26:54,542
Anyway, the film became very
successful in America, too.
1393
01:26:54,709 --> 01:26:56,753
But the Americans released it
under its original title,
1394
01:26:56,878 --> 01:27:00,131
PARANOIA, because when it comes
to cinema they're more
1395
01:27:00,381 --> 01:27:02,175
cunning than we are.
1396
01:27:02,759 --> 01:27:06,137
PARANOIA, they just
loved that film.
1397
01:27:06,596 --> 01:27:09,933
That's when Italian producers
decided to make a film
1398
01:27:10,099 --> 01:27:12,518
with the same title.
1399
01:27:13,102 --> 01:27:17,023
They asked me to write a new
film, starring Carroll Baker,
1400
01:27:17,148 --> 01:27:18,358
to be called PARANOIA.
1401
01:27:18,483 --> 01:27:20,818
That's why I made a film titled
ORGASMO that's also known as
1402
01:27:20,860 --> 01:27:22,904
PARANOIA, and a film titled
PARANOIA that was released
1403
01:27:22,987 --> 01:27:25,406
as A QUIET PLACE TO KILL in
the US
1404
01:27:25,698 --> 01:27:28,952
because they couldn't call
it PARANOIA like the other one.
1405
01:27:29,244 --> 01:27:32,830
Carroll Baker gets so confused
about this every time
1406
01:27:32,914 --> 01:27:36,167
they interviewed her about the
films that we made together.
1407
01:27:36,417 --> 01:27:38,586
She can't remember which is
which.
1408
01:27:39,087 --> 01:27:43,174
After directing some of the
most important Italian giallos,
1409
01:27:43,341 --> 01:27:46,886
Umberto Lenzi started to write
more and more.
1410
01:27:47,053 --> 01:27:49,389
Especially in the last few
years,
1411
01:27:49,472 --> 01:27:51,724
with the crisis of Italian
genre cinema, and
1412
01:27:51,849 --> 01:27:55,228
fewer and fewer valid
examples of it.
1413
01:27:55,561 --> 01:27:57,605
Lenzi decided
to become a writer.
1414
01:27:57,730 --> 01:28:01,401
He wrote successful giallos
such as DELITTI A CINECITTĂ…,
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and TERRORE AD HARLEM,
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even if these stories are
not meant to be watched
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onscreen, but to be read on
paper, they still have
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Lenzi's uncanny ability as a
storyteller.
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