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- I'm just gonna say now,

- I'm just gonna say now, I'm nervous.

- Oh, this is your first one.

- All right, where do we look?

- Hi, Denise. - Hi. Happy birthday.

- Thank you, honey.

- This is awesome.

You guys, I'm gonna be in the background

with my hair like this the whole time.

- See how Teddy's is cleaner,

'cause she's got a lot of light.

- Yeah, Teddy's light's really good.

She's also 18 years younger than I am.

[laughter]

- Hi, Harry. - Say hi to the girls, Harry.

- Hi, girls. - [indistinct]

- Apparently, I don't live here

and I only come to do the show.

- [laughs] - So.

- Harry. - Hi.

- [indistinct] Stand by.

- Do we need to wear shoes?

- Oh, that's a good question.

- Do not wear shoes. Do not wear pants.

- [laughs]

- [softly] Okay, good.

- Ladies, thank you so much. - That's it?

- Bye, y'all. See you Thursday.

[dramatic music]

♪ ♪

- Can you hear me with the mic here?

- Yes, we can. - You think I need more light?

- Everybody looks great.

- I'm, like, the only one with such a visible mic.

- Hey, Andy. - Look how cute he is.

He's so ----ing cute.

- Everyone looks really good, I gotta tell you.

- Here we go. One, two, three.

[all clap]

- Tonight, the three-part

"Beverly Hills Housewives Reunion" begins.

- You guys are so vicious. You really are.

It's actually kind of mean.

- Oh, ----ing shut up.

Denise, you lie, lie, lie, lie, lie.

- You're new to the group, right?

- Yes. We know that.

- I only said nice things about you.

- Kyle, stop. - I've seen your tweets.

- You actually said you said way worse things about me.

- According to who, Brandy?

- You. - You actually said that.

- You said it! - [laughing] I can't.

- When was the last time we've ever talked about sex?

- You bring up your husband's penis almost every show.

- Oh, yeah.

- You got a lot of crap for that, didn't you, Sutton?

- Jeez, Louise. Yes, I did. Thought I was gonna die.

- That ain't right.

- I was confused about

the quality of the steak at the strip club.

- Where you can get a good steak and a good lap dance?

- Really?

Are you gonna let me small disdain for your clothes

get in the way of our friendship?

That's silly. - She said "disdain."

You came to my charity event,

raised your paddle to donate $5,000

and never paid. - What?

- I feel like you're trying to discredit this.

- I'm showing all sides. - No, I mean--

- Except Brandi's side.

- I feel that the coverup is worse than the crime.

- You've been coming for me all season, Dorit.

- Is that what you're saying, honey?

- You want to take credit for my fashion show?

- Let me finish and then you can say whatever you wanna say.

- That's what we do here. - No, we don't.

- Are you threatening me?

- If you wanna play this game, we can do it.

- Are you threatening me?

- All you do is attack her every time you see her.

- I don't think Denise

is trying to make anyone look like assholes.

- She already did. - [scoffs]

[overlapping crosstalk] - ♪ Gaslighting, gaslighting ♪

- That's a good example, actually.

- One at a time, guys. One at a time.

- Brandi brought it up on camera.

- Lisa Rinna, Lisa.

- Mother----er, I'm out. That's bullsh--.

- Well, what did I say that was bad?

- Of course you are Denise ----ing Richards.

- And guess who brought up the threesome?

Lisa ----ing Rinna.

- The whole ----ing world knows about Denise's husband

going and getting a happy ending

from, like, a hundred-year-old woman.

- Oh, my God. - It's purely accidental.

- Did she leave? - She just left.

[dramatic music]

♪ ♪

- Hey, everybody.

It's Andy Cohen, and welcome

to the "Real Housewives of Beverly Hills" reunion.

- Hi, everyone.

- Virtual edition.

We are all at home,

and things may look a little different this time.

Dorit, wow. You look incredible.

- Thank you, thank you.

It's the reunion. Gotta bring it.

- Very good.

Hey, Kyle Carrington Colby. How are you?

- How are ya, Andy?

- Kyle, I have to assume

"Dynasty" was a reference point.

- [chuckling] Isn't it always around here?

- Hey. Pink hair, don't care.

Huh, Teddi?

- A little quarantine pink around here.

- Erika, you look great. Where's Tom Girardi right now?

- [chuckles] - He's in the office.

Where he is every day.

- Really?

- Well, when your name's on the front door,

business doesn't stop, so.

- There you go.

Hi, Rinna. Tell me about your hair.

Who is she? I need to hear everything.

- Hi, Andy.

Well, we just named her Joan as in Crawford.

- Ooh, I like that. - [chuckles]

I'm scared.

- Well, maybe you should be. [chuckles]

- You just changed your voice, Rinna, to the low.

- I know. Hi.

- Garcelle, welcome to your first reunion.

- [chuckling] Thank you.

I can't believe I'm here, honestly.

- What's the inspiration for today's look?

- We wanted to do a modern flapper.

You know, this dress is amazing

with the feathers, and we have the headpiece.

I really wanted to go with a black designer,

so I went with Jovana Louis.

- Who designed your jewelry? - Asa.

- Is it Asa from "Shahs?" - Yeah.

Her things are beautiful.

She has the most amazing kaftans I've ever seen.

I was wearing one earlier. - Excellent.

Last but not least, hello there, Denise Richards.

- Hello there, Andy Cohen.

- Or can I call you, ----ing Denise Richards?

- No, it's Denise ----ing Richards.

- Thank you. - [laughs]

- Now, who here is wearing shoes right now?

- Mine are on the floor. [laughs]

- Amina Muaddi.

- Wait, look at the lock.

Look at that sexy lock on it. Oof.

- Does Harry Hamlin have the key to that lock?

- Yeah, of course. - [laughs]

- Well, in a ZIP code of polite comments and pleasantries,

our newest housewife is not afraid

to let her unfiltered opinions fly.

Take a look.

[funky music]

- Being able to move to New York City at 17 years old

to begin my modeling career...

- Hold that right in. Very nice.

Hold that, hold that.

- Has made me strong 'cause I know I can handle anything.

Even those damn housewives.

- I don't need one. - I don't need one.

- Oh, my God, you're like me. [laughs]

- Garcelle is the same girl I met 20 years go.

- Am I the only single one? I am.

- For now. - For now.

And as a single mom, my time is very limited.

I'm gonna miss you guys.

You're my favorite son. - I know I am.

- And you're my favorite son. - What?

[laughter]

- It's busy. The sex life, not so busy.

- Girl. - [laughs]

- This is so inappropriate.

- I have a black one and a white one

depending on how I feel.

You're not supposed to be in my stuff.

[laughs] Am I blushing?

How's your hubby? - He's good, you know?

He is 80.

- How's sex? [tense notes]

Sometimes I can rub people the wrong way

because I'm so blunt,

but all the other women are afraid

to ask really deep questions.

But that's the only way you're gonna get to know someone.

How'd you get your money? [tense notes]

I wanna say, thank you to my new best friends.

Some of them, not so much.

Yes, Kyle. You.

I feel like I talk to you all the time,

and I feel like you just glaze right over me.

Kyle, I'm over here. [chuckles]

She's like, "Where? What?"

And not that I need to be validated by anybody.

- I get it. It's just an observation.

- I just feel like I've said things

and she hasn't even replied.

- She does the same thing to me.

- And what she was wearing tonight was hideous.

- [chuckles, coughs]

- Are we being catty? Yes.

That's what real girlfriends do,

and Kyle deserves it.

♪ ♪

- All right, well, uh,

there was a lot of response

after you were on "Watch What Happens Live"

early in the season

and you said Kyle was the least welcoming in the group.

Which wife was the most welcoming,

and who was the least welcoming?

- Erika was the most welcoming.

The least-- did I already say Sutton?

Oh, I would have to say Kyle, actually. Kyle.

- Oh, wow.

Kyle, what was your response when you heard that?

- I--I was actually totally blindsided.

I was really excited to have Garcelle be a part of the show,

and every time I saw her, we were laughing.

You saw it in my first party. I had her here.

I was climbing under her skirt.

- Come on, Kyle. - Garcelle, let's go.

[laughter] Let's go.

And I was nothing but nice to her.

- [clears throat]

- Honestly, it hurt my feelings

and I got a little, tiny lump in my throat,

'cause I'm sensitive like that, when I saw the interview bites

and what she was saying behind my back.

- Um, I want to address this.

It was my first time on "Watch What Happens Live."

I had a big drink 'cause I was kind of nervous.

I had never done it.

I couldn't remember anybody else's name.

[laughing] Kyle was the only one.

- What about what you were saying

in your interview bites on the show?

- Well, let me finish addressing this.

- Saying that was for Kyle? - Wait a minute, just--

- I'm like--

- Kyle, you're doing it already.

Let me finish and then you can say whatever you wanna say.

- That's what we do here. - No, we don't.

- At the LA Mission awards show,

that was sort of tongue-in-cheek,

you know what I mean?

And I felt like--I never said Kyle was not nice to me.

- Okay. - I said you glazed over me

when it was important for me to have a conversation with you.

- Dorit, you've had issues

with Kyle's listening skills in the past.

Is Garcelle right about Kyle glazing over people?

- I think Kyle has a tendency to interrupt people.

And yes, of course,

I can sometimes make a point that's long-winded,

but it's still not nice

to make them feel that their point is not valuable,

um, and that they have a better point to make.

- I don't want your relationship to change.

Because I know how much you guys care about--

- It hurts my feelings. I'm sorry to interrupt.

I don't want--I don't care what you say right now.

I'm sorry.

- Why are you guys choosing to believe Brandi over Denise?

- Actually-- - I mean, if it had--

excuse me a second.

Let me finish. - I'm sorry.

- And you said-- [overlapping crosstalk]

- Do you--why do you--

do you realize you don't let some people talk?

- No, you talk now.

If you ever feel I interrupt you, I'm sorry,

but when people are arguing, I mean, that happens.

- Denise, you expressed some concerns

about Kyle to Garcelle.

What's your take on all this?

- It's been times where I felt

that it wasn't during an argument

she talks, um, at us

and doesn't really listen to what we're saying

and oftentimes,

the conversation will go back to her.

- I have respect for all of you

and I certainly didn't mean to glaze over anyone.

And it felt like that was just something

that was chosen to say because, um--

- Chosen?

- Only time I ever glazed over you

was when I was talking with someone else.

I didn't have any issue with you.

That was the only--that was why you maybe felt glazed over.

I had absolutely no issue--

- But I did hear you off camera--

- Hold on, let me-- now I'm gonna talk, though.

But now I'm talking, so give me a second now.

Um, so it felt like your picking a problem with me,

it was disingenuous, you know?

You were never there. We had no chance to bond.

Then you came to my charity event,

raised your paddle to donate $5,000

to Children's Hospital Los Angeles and never paid.

- What? [dramatic music]

- You were not being genuine.

- That is not true, that is not true.

- You are here to be genuine.

- That is not true, that is not true.

You better watch what you're saying.

That is not true.

- Coming up next...

I was confused about

the quality of the steak at the strip club.

[laughter] - Never good, never good.

- You came

- You came to my charity event,

raised your paddle to donate $5,000

to Children's Hospital Los Angeles,

and never paid. - What?

- You were not being genuine.

- That is not true, that is not true.

- You are here to be genuine.

- That is not true, that is not true.

You better watch what you're saying.

That is not true.

- No payment has been made.

- So I'm just saying were we--

- Well then something went wrong.

Do you think I would say I'd pay for it--

- We have to be honest on camera.

If you--what you feel about me,

you know, if you're upset about something,

it has to be genuine.

- I just said what I said-- how I felt about you.

- My issue wasn't with you in that moment.

- You went on Twitter

and I was warned by somebody here that that's what you do.

You wait until the show comes out and then you tweet

and you get all your fans behind you,

and I never Tweeted anything negative at you.

- We're supposed to tweet.

- Garcelle, who warned you about Kyle?

- Oh, I'm not-- I'm not doing that.

[chuckles]

- Does anyone in this group

want to cop to warning Garcelle about Kyle?

- [chuckles] - All right.

- I was never--

even in my interviews, I only said nice things about you.

Uh-- - Kyle, stop.

- I had--my only issue was that

I don't think you were nice to me.

- Stop, stop, that's not true, that's not true.

- And I don't think you were being honest or genuine.

- You're not being honest, you're not being honest,

- What am I not being honest about?

- Because I've seen your tweets.

- What--what were the tweets?

[stutters] My tweets were

I've been nothing but kind to this woman.

That's one of the things I tweeted, and that's the truth.

- Okay.

- How it goes is just--

if you feel something, you just say it.

If you don't have an issue with someone,

you don't create it. - I didn't create an issue.

- And if you like someone, you need to say it.

- I actually told you how I was feeling.

How you took it is upon you.

- Okay.

- All right, let's leave it there.

Garcelle, talk to me about

being the first Black Real Housewife of Beverly Hills.

- It's really cool.

I mean, it's always great to be the first anything, right?

- Did you feel pressure? - Yeah.

I felt pressure and people wanting me to come in

and just snap at everybody.

You know, we're labeled angry women a lot,

Black women, because we are outspoken, we're strong.

And sometimes I hate that word, "strong,"

because it makes me feel like people negate my pain.

Just because I'm strong

doesn't mean I don't have pain and I don't feel.

- You recently told Wendy Williams,

"I think the women were a little hesitant this season

"because I think they were afraid

"of Black social media coming for them

like they came after me so everyone kind of tip-toed."

What'd you mean by that? - I meant exactly that.

You know, race is such a fine line, you know?

- Yeah. - To deal with.

So if they said anything that was--

they would've said to a another white woman

but because it's me, it becomes a racial thing.

So I get it.

I would've-- if I was in their shoes,

I would've been nervous, too.

- Anyone-- - I didn't ever feel like that.

- Anyone want to speak to that?

- I never felt like that.

And if I had had an issue with you,

I would've not hesitated to address it.

- That's awesome, thank you.

- Magnolia from Little Rock said,

"Erika, it took you a while to develop deeper connections

"with some of the ladies,

so why do you think you hit it off instantly with Garcelle?"

- Well, I think Garcelle came in--

she was honest and open and fun and, you know,

we hugged and had a good time.

And I'm more comfortable in my own skin in this group.

I've grown and I'm a little bit more trusting,

a little bit more open. - [chuckles]

- I mean, may come back to bite me in the ass,

but there you have it.

- Margot from Los Angeles said,

"Garcelle, as someone raising biracial kids,

"what kinds of conversations have you been having with them

when it comes to Black Lives Matter?"

- I've been having conversations with the boys

as young as three years old.

I mean, it was important

for me to give them a positive outlook

of the fact that their mom is Black and their dad is white.

I didn't want anybody to put a negative connotation on it

before they knew what was coming at them.

So we've always had racial conversations

about being careful with the police, being respectful,

and just the injustice that we encounter

just because of the color of our skin.

And, uh, a couple of months ago,

I was pulled over by the cops and Jax was in the back

and I was so happy

that Jax actually got to see my interaction with the police.

Obviously, I was respectful.

I had my hands on the wheel, ten and two.

I said, "I'm reaching for my wallet."

And it's interesting, because even, you know,

when I say this to my other friends,

you know, who happen to be white,

and they're like, "Wow,

would someone like you have to do that?"

And I was like, "Absolutely someone like me."

It doesn't matter whether-- what my résumé said

or what I've done.

I could get-- [chuckles and stutters]

It's been so long, so long that it took COVID,

it took quarantine for everybody to be still

and to watch George Floyd

to be able to get things to finally change.

And I feel hopeful,

but it's still kind of like it's been a long time coming.

- What about the rest of you?

Anyone talking to your kids about this stuff?

- It's an ongoing conversation at our house at dinner.

I think a lot of what's happening

is people are scared to say something

or they don't know what to ask,

so it's really important to talk about it,

educate them, ask questions, ask my friends,

so that my kids do feel comfortable.

It feels nice to see some change happening finally.

- I loved what you said, Kyle,

about how, you know, being able to have a conversation.

I want my friends to call me and say,

"Is it okay if I say this?"

"Would you prefer African American

or do you want Black?"

I prefer Black, personally.

But I feel like it's okay

to have those uncomfortable conversations because

so we can grow and move from it.

And I think the fact that

white people are joining in is everything.

- Erika, your son is a policeman,

so this must be incredibly complicated.

- Well, yeah.

You know, I get to see the best of law enforcement

through the work of my son,

but there are institutional and individual tragedies

that are continuing to happen in the Black community

and those need to change.

- And I actually reached out to Erika

to check on her son, actually.

- You were the first person that did.

[dramatic music]

- Wow.

Okay, I gotta take a break. We'll be right back.

Coming up next...

- Sutton, I wholeheartedly apologize.

You did-- - Yeah, okay.

Dorit, you weren't concerned with how I was feeling.

- Sutton,

- Sutton, I hear you got a new cat.

What's the breed?

- I mean, you can't make this up.

It's a Ragamuffin. But I have two other ones.

This is my third one.

- Ragamuffin? - They're beautiful.

- By the way, I'm sorry to butt in,

but Ragamuffins are beautiful. [chuckles]

- Should we start? - Yes.

We're joined by the queen of couture, Sutton Stracke.

Hi, Sutton. - Hi, Andy.

How are you? - I'm great.

I'm dying to know who you're wearing tonight.

- I'm wearing Pamela Roland.

- Amanda from South Carolina said,

"You recently put your $9 million mansion up for sale.

Why are you moving and where are you going?"

- I'm moving 'cause I'm desperately broke.

I'm moving--I don't know if I'm moving or not.

God knows.

You know, it might not even sell.

Who knows?

There's a house that I like,

so if you wanna buy something, you gotta sell something.

- Ruby from Long Island said,

"I thought you'd be on a dating site for millionaires,

"not Match.com.

What's the worst date you went on after your divorce?"

- With a millionaire. [chuckling]

[chuckles] Why would I--

I don't need to date a millionaire.

Please, come on.

- Honest, unpredictable,

and with a personality as big as her pocketbook,

Sutton proved to be as one-of-a-kind

as the Dolce in her closet.

- Oh, God. - Watch this.

[upbeat music]

- Hi, Sweetie. - Hey.

- I met Sutton about six, seven years ago.

She's Southern, and she lives in LA

but she travels to New York City, Paris, Milan,

and she buys couture.

And none of these other hos do.

- I'm wearing Alexis Mabille couture.

- That's cool.

- [gasps] That's a Dolce bra. - Yeah.

- She's rich, honey.

- My son, he would be like, "Ahh!" screaming,

and people would look at me, like, "What are you doing?"

I'm like, "Let him cry. Let them cry."

- You are Southern to the core. [laughter]

- This is your restaurant.

- So I came in as a partner in this Buca di Beppo.

There's 80 nationwide.

- Buddha the Peppa? Buddha di Peppo.

I don't know. Is it like the Olive Garden?

- Miss Erika, my first impression was,

"Oh, my God, I'm scared of this woman

because she's so ----ing fabulous."

- What the hell?

"My first impression of you

"was that you were really pretty.

"[gasps] And you know what?

I know now you are so pretty."

I'm gonna be very honest.

I thought that Teddi,

maybe you were gonna be a little boring.

- [chuckling] Okay.

- Oh, and then pregnant. God help us.

I'm sorry.

Are we supposed to be honest or not?

- Oh, of course. - Oh, go right ahead.

- Women like Sutton

are few and far between in Beverly Hills,

but there's a whole world of women like Sutton out there.

And you know what? God bless them.

- Is it?

- About what?

- About what?

I'm uncomfortable when someone says,

"I'm gonna freak the (BLEEP) out."

- I said it very quietly.

- She said, "I'm gonna freak the (BLEEP) out."

- I didn't say it like that. What is wrong with you?

- You're somebody I don't know that well

that says, "I got a really bad feeling."

- You're not being nice. - Sutton.

- Let the mouse go. You had your fun, let it go.

[dramatic music]

- Dorit, Laura from Rochester said,

"Sutton confided in you at the DMA party

"and you completely blew everything she said

"out of proportion.

Why did you lie and exaggerate about what Sutton said?"

- Well, first of all, Sutton,

I want to say I wholeheartedly apologize

for making a bigger issue than it was.

You know, I'm close to Lisa Rinna's daughters

and I care about them.

And I really wanted that night to go well.

And that coupled with not really knowing you very well

and not knowing how to read you, um, you know,

in my mind, I was mistaking your energy for being angry,

and I think it was just nerves.

- Well, and--and quite loudly.

You said it like, "I'm gonna freak the (BLEEP) out!"

I'm like, "I don't talk like that."

So that was just kinda odd to me, I thought,

like, I don't say it like that.

- No, I completely understand and I did.

And I--and I watched it back and I felt really, really bad.

- Yeah, okay, Dorit. I'm sorry.

If you were really concerned with how I was feeling,

you could've pulled me aside.

You weren't concerned with how I was feeling.

Don't--mm-mm.

- No, I wasn't concerned about how you were feeling.

- You wanted to share it with the table.

- I was concerned that you were going to ruin--

- Don't--I'm sorry-- - Sutton, let me finish.

- Sorry, to really accept your apology--

- Let me finish. Sutton--you're--

first of all, you're twisting my words.

I wasn't concerned with how you were feeling.

I was concerned you were gonna do something at the event.

- And so that's why you brought it up at the table?

- When I brought it up at the table,

it was A, to understand what that was about.

And like I said,

and I've just apologized to you whole-heartedly and said--

- Okay.

- Watching it back, I would've felt the same way, but--

- You're really kind of avoiding the question, though.

Because I--you know,

I understand that you get it now,

but at the time at the table

you had to bring it up to the group.

You didn't ask me privately.

You really wanted to announce it.

- No.

- And, like, talk about freak everybody out?

That's what you did.

And it didn't even need to be said.

You could've asked me later, like, "What was that about?"

But you had to do it in front of everybody.

- I'll explain. If you let me, I'll explain.

With pleasure.

So you're new to the group, right?

- Yes, we know that.

[dramatic music]

- Coming up next...

- You're, like, mocking and it's a bad thing.

Kinda like, "Eff off. You didn't even know me."

- Well, that's not-- okay, first of all, really?

Are you gonna let my small disdain for your clothes

get in the way of our friendship?

That's silly.

- Talk about

- Talk about freak everybody out.

That's what you did.

Like, what was that about?

But you had to do it in front of everybody.

- I'll explain. If you let me, I'll explain.

With pleasure.

So you're new to the group, right?

- Yes, we know that.

- I've just apologized now three times

for blowing it out of proportion.

- You kind of made it an issue.

I'm accepting your apology, and we're moving on.

We're good. We're good.

- Winnie from Cleveland said,

"Kyle, you came to Sutton's defense

"without even knowing her.

Why did the two of you get along so quickly?"

- Well, like I always say, I defend what's right

and that didn't feel right in the moment, so I spoke up.

And I felt bad because

here we've had one, you know, disastrous dinner after another

and I'm thinking, "My gosh, she's new to this group."

And it seemed uncalled for

and now we just heard Dorit's explanation and...

you know, I understand.

- Paige from Lansing, Michigan said,

"Rinna, you turned on your good friend for almost freaking out.

"How exactly did Sutton (BLEEP) with your kids

if nothing happened?"

- You know, I was thinking about my kids.

All Sutton had to do was

pull me aside and say, "Hey, is he gonna be here?"

- But she did throw me out to the sharks.

She did. - Well, listen.

This is not an easy group to enter into.

I--I think Sutton and I worked through it

quite--quite quickly.

I love Sutton. Sutton knows I love her, so.

- Phoebe from Salt Lake City said,

"Could you pick the mayor of West Hollywood

out of a lineup?"

- Are you the mayor?

- I am John D'Amico.

I'm the mayor of West Hollywood.

- You're the hottest mayor ever.

♪ ♪

- How many mayors does she know?

- And I know lots of other mayors, too, by the way.

- No doubt. [laughter]

Uh, you also got rave reviews from the other women

about your gift bag.

I mean, I keep hearing about it.

What was in that gift bag, ladies,

and what made it so great?

- Good sh--.

- Gorgeous clutch. The Perrin clutch.

- I'm gonna say this could be even $1,000.

- Amongst other things.

- Yeah, really a great--

- It was amazing, amazing handbag.

- You're so generous.

And the fact that not only did you give us that gift,

but then when we went to Rome,

you brought us these amazing rain boots

with our initials on 'em.

And the fact that you packed them and brought them there,

I mean, that was really cool. - So sweet.

- Well, I was trying to buy your friendships.

So I don't know if it worked or not.

- You got it, you got it. - No, Dorit did.

- I said you actually have

the best social graces in this group.

- You really did, Erika. It's true.

But I would never try to buy any friendships.

I don't need to. I have enough friendships.

- No, I think that you're a Southern a woman,

I think that you are a well-bred Southern woman;

that's what I think.

I think that you were raised right

and you have good social graces

and I believe that you gave those things from the heart.

And they're good gifts. - I did, I did.

- And thanks. So how about that?

- You're welcome. Thank you, thank you.

- And I do too, Sutton.

I think you are--much like the message I sent to you

after you sent me flowers for my birthday,

that you are extremely kind and sweet

and I've really enjoyed getting to know you.

I think you are all those things.

- Yeah.

- You're also very outspoken.

Rinna's first impressions game at Kyle's dinner

kind of went from zero to 60

when Sutton's answer left Teddi in tears.

- I thought that Teddi--

maybe you were gonna be a little boring.

That was my first impression. Like, oh, and then pregnant.

God help us.

- No, come on. She's about to cry.

- No, I'm not. - Kyle?

- No, I'm not.

No, I'm just pregnant, you guys.

Cut me some slack.

- Teddi, honey.

- Like, enough.

- Teddi,

you say you want friends that can be direct and honest,

but when Sutton called you boring you cried and ran away.

So was Sutton too honest for you?

- I don't think it was really about that.

Sutton hadn't even taken the chance to get to know me

or anything like that.

I think she decided the second she saw me

in my "cute," little, black romper

that she had an issue.

- Hi! - I want you to meet Sutton.

Nice to meet you. - Nice to meet you, too.

You look beautiful! - Oh, thank you, thank you.

Teddi looks like she's wearing a black romper.

Cute.

- To me, it wasn't the boring thing,

it was the, "Ugh, even worse, pregnant."

Because that's when I actually broke down

because something I'm so grateful for

and to me is such a miracle,

you're like, mocking and it's a bad thing.

Kinda like, "Eff off, you don't even know me."

- But that's not-- okay, first of all--

- [scoffs]

- That--you know, that-- and I have apologized for that

because I really was just trying to be funny and silly.

That's how my group of friends--

we would all be like, "Oh, God, you're pregnant now?"

I did not know-- - Right.

But your, "Oh, God, you're boring and pregnant?"

I actually look bad in these clothes pregnant.

- Are you gonna let my small disdain for your--your clothes

get in the way of our friendship?

That's silly.

- [chuckles] - She said "disdain."

- A lot of viewers find Sutton's unflinching honestly

polarizing.

Here's a taste of what they said.

Kim from New York said,

"Sutton is refreshing and blunt."

Lucy from Boston said, "Southern charm, my ass.

Sutton's sense of etiquette is backwards."

Sutton, how do you respond

to the response from viewers to you?

- Well, I think we all have insecurities,

and mine definitely came out in the beginning.

And so I really did tense up

and I think it--I did kind of look like an asshole.

I looked like a snotty asshole.

- [chuckles] - But that's not who I am.

- Kyle, um, you do a great Dorit impression

in your interviews.

Do you have a Sutton impression?

- [Southern accent] I thought this was

supposed to be a family barbecue.

[laughter]

- Yes!

- All right, let's take a break.

Coming up next...

- When was the last time we've ever talked about sex?

- You bring up your husband's penis almost every show.

- It comes out of your mouth first.

You set the tone.

The whole thing is really frustrating.

- Garcelle, I'm trying

- Garcelle, I'm trying to read your face.

I can't tell if you're annoyed or just sitting listening.

- A little bit of both.

- [chuckling] Okay.

Why are you annoyed?

- You know, Kyle saying that I didn't pay for the thing,

which I know I did and I will check with my--

I already sent an email to my business manager.

It's tough to be in a place

where people are judging you and questioning you.

- Yeah.

- It's hard being in the hot seat sometimes,

especially when you don't feel like it's justified.

I think we've all had moments like that across the board.

I don't think, I know you all have.

- Oh, I'm sure, I'm sure.

[dramatic music]

- We're back and we are still in our little boxes.

Denise, last season

you casually talked penis size and happy endings.

And this season,

it seemed like you flinched at the mention of threesomes.

So who is the real Denise Richards?

Let's take a look.

- I've never done a lesbian thing.

- Me neither. I haven't, either.

- I've just made out with a girl.

- Oh, my God, I wish my kids weren't here.

- Uh, I was with a couple. - [gasps]

- There might be conversation that's very adult.

- Yeah, it's--it's fine. - It's fine.

- I'm a very open, sexual person.

He has a very big penis.

- Oh, my God. [laughter]

- Aaron had never had a happy ending and we were on the hunt.

- He wanted one? - No, I wanted him to have one.

- Have you had a happy ending massage?

- Yeah. - [gasps]

- But that doesn't mean that

I want my kids hearing this kind of stuff.

So what did you hear with me and my friends?

- We heard you guys arguing about threesomes.

[chuckles]

- Honestly,

I've never talked about a threesome with my child before.

- Where's tequila-drinking Denise?

- I just think it's a little naive.

I mean, yes, it was disrespectful,

but I don't think it's anything that they haven't heard.

- I wasn't even gonna say anything

until Sami said something to me and I was like, "Oh, sh--."

- It's hard for me to imagine

that Sami went to her and was like,

"I'm really concerned about this."

Like...

- This has been a lesson for me.

I will be, uh, mindful of them

being in earshot with all of us, that's all.

- I think that there is a part of Denise that is regretful

for saying the big penis and the happy ending.

- Where are the kids?

- Kids are-- two are on a sleepover,

one's on a playdate.

- Oh.

- That's why our kids aren't here?

I don't want you to ever feel like

you can't have your kids around at all.

Oh, my God.

- You're no longer comfortable

bringing your kids in our presence?

- No, I never said that.

- She said, "Why would I bring my kids?"

- I'm done. We're leaving.

- Denise. - Baby, stand up.

We're leaving. Get up.

- What we need is, like, a big steak.

That's what I need. - A big steak?

- We need a date night. - Go have your steak and have--

- We're gonna go and have a steak and go to a strip bar.

- Okay.

- We're gonna go to the strip bar.

- Go do that, you guys. - Good night, honey.

I love you. - Wait, what?

[laughing]

- Okay, well let's get to it because steak and strip clubs,

I mean, everyone was talking about steak and strip clubs

after that episode aired.

- I know. - I know you tweeted

that you were absolutely kidding about that.

- Yeah, I was joking.

I knew Lisa Rinna was gonna go straight to them

and run and say, you know, whatever she did.

- I was confused about

the quality of the steak at the strip club.

[laughter] - Never good, never good.

- I didn't know you could get a steak at a strip club.

- Where can you get a good steak and a good lap dance?

- Erika, did they serve steaks at Shakers?

- Oh, honey. Are you crazy?

- Corbin from Anaheim said,

"Denise, when Kyle asked why you didn't bring your kids,

"you said they were busy, but later,

"you admitted to Garcelle

you wouldn't bring them around this group."

Why not tell the real reason?

- Do you think my teenage daughters are gonna want to go?

I cannot bring Elouise around a pool

unless I'm sitting there watching her.

And the other side of it is--

- Well, you didn't say that.

You said, "Oh, I wouldn't bring my kids around here."

- Yeah, well, I was half-joking reminding you guys

everything you've told me in Santa Barbara,

every single one, including you, Lisa Rinna,

told me never to bring my kids around at a dinner.

- Maybe, like, when it's an adult party like that,

just don't invite the kids.

- Like, I would not have my kids at dinner.

Since when have you listened to me? [laughs]

- This was specifically a kid's family party.

- But this--but this was a family barbecue.

- If the real reason was that they wouldn't want to come,

why not say that?

- Well, both-- both reasons are true.

If my teenage daughters would've wanted to go,

I wouldn't want them to go and see their mother

be on the receiving end of these arguments.

Why would I want them--

my kids wouldn't want to sit there and watch this.

- So why were they at your barbecue?

So why were they at your barbecue?

Your pizza party?

- Because at that moment, it wasn't--

first of all, it was our house.

My experience with this group

when there's been husbands around--

when was the last time we've ever talked about sex

with this group?

- We talk about sex all the time.

- Every day.

- You bring up your husband's penis almost every show.

- With the husbands there--

- In that same episode, you talked about his penis.

- So you guys are married over a year now.

- Yes, and he's let himself go. [chuckles]

- You know, it happens, it happens.

- Right?

- But he really didn't let himself go.

- She's joking. - Honey, I'm joking.

- [indistinct]

- He still has a big penis and big muscles,

so it's all good. - [laughs]

- I said one comment.

- You sat down and opened with he still has a big penis.

- My point is I've never talked about--

- That was the first thing out of your mouth

at your own barbecue

with your own children sitting right there.

It comes out of your mouth first; you set the tone.

- Actually, my kids weren't there when they--

- We're having an adult conversation.

- [chuckling] We can't even talk in this group sometimes.

- I mean, I--it just--

the whole thing is really frustrating.

- I think the part that's frustrating

is your inability to say, "You know what? Yeah, guys.

"I was kind of trying to make you look like assholes

and that's why I kept joking about it."

- I don't think Denise

is trying to make anyone look like assholes.

I'm sorry. - I don't think so, either.

- She already did. - I--I--I--I don't think that.

- I'm picking my battles, though.

- Erika, is that why you're frustrated?

You think she was trying to make you look bad?

- Well, I think she was trying to make us as a group look bad.

I mean, it was. - Why?

- Perfect setup, I mean, we had our table, their table.

We always have adult conversations.

That's what we do as a group.

And then all of a sudden, we're penalized for that.

We're having a conversation here

when those children are yards away.

- How are you penalized?

I wasn't upset that you guys were talking about it

and I said that several times.

- Denise, I have to say this:

you were upset enough to pull me aside and take me to coffee.

I apologize genuinely. - That's not true.

We didn't go to coffee for that.

- I wasn't the only person talking about sex

at that table.

Garcelle's talking about sex,

they didn't show Dorit talking about sex,

but yet, you came to me, took me aside--

- Erika, can I finish saying this?

- And that's it.

Then--hold on, I'm gonna say what I have to say.

- I did not pull you for coffee to talk about--

- And this is it: I was okay with being singled out,

because I knew I was being singled out.

I took it on the chin; I apologize sincerely.

Then I find out you take it to Teddi and Sutton.

Mother----er, I'm out. That's bullsh--.

[dramatic music]

♪ ♪

- Coming up...

- She said that I should lose my job

and that I'm a racist.

Don't you (BLEEP) around and lie to me about that.

♪ ♪

- I was okay

- I was okay with being singled out

because I knew I was being singled out.

I took it on the chin; I apologize sincerely.

Then I find out you take it to Teddi and Sutton.

Mother----er, I'm out. That's bullsh--.

- I was not upset with Erika.

I didn't go to Teddi and Sutton

and say, "Well, I can't believe Erika said this."

I didn't say that.

Did you take it that I was upset with you?

- Why me? Why not anyone else?

- I'm asking you a question, Erika.

- What?

- Did you take it that I was upset with you?

- Deni--oh, my God.

Am I on another ----ing planet?

Because that is exactly what happened.

- No, you're just being gaslit.

You're just being gaslit, Erika. [chuckles]

- Bullsh--. [scoffs]

- It wasn't a big deal.

You guys kept going on about it.

And when I said this to Teddi and to Sutton,

I wasn't saying it from, like,

"Oh," you know, "shame on everyone for saying that."

I was saying as mom-to-mom, it was awkward

and now I'm at that age

where my kids are talking about certain things--

- Denise, Denise, it wasn't awkward.

Denise, your kid came to you

and she didn't ask you what a threesome was.

Sami didn't ask you what a three--

- Lisa, I know she didn't ask me what at threesome was.

And how do you know what was awkward and what wasn't?

- Because I saw it on film. - But we watched it.

- What I saw on film-- what I saw on film, Denise,

was that your daughter, Sami, who I adore--

- Well, not everything goes on film.

- She didn't care. She laughed.

She said their friends laughed.

And by the way,

why when I asked you at Kyle's house what Sami had said

in the conversation you had with her, you wouldn't tell me?

What did you say to Sami? Or she came to you?

Like, how did it--

I don't really even know how it came about.

- That's private between me and Sami.

[dramatic music]

Because that's between me and Sami.

- Why wouldn't you have said, "Oh, she laughed about it."

- I said I'll talk to you in private.

I said that to you at Kyle's.

I said I'll have a private conversation with you.

- But I asked you in Santa Barbara, "What did Sami say?"

And you're like, "That's between us."

And so, you know, Sami's upset

but then we can't have what Sami said.

So we get half the information.

- No, a lot--and also a lot of the stuff I was talking about,

I wanted to make it more

about us as the parents and how we felt.

Whether you agree or not, that's fine.

- I wanted to say something.

Denise, just so you know, I, of course,

would never want my children to hear something like that.

Don't let that--I don't want that to get lost in all this

because obviously I know that they also understand that.

I mean, my Portia's 12 years old.

I would've died.

- I want to ask Erika about

a comment she made on the show that she got--

uh, people were very upset by on social media when you said

that perhaps Denise's daughters, you know,

already knew something-- - No.

That--that comment was about teenagers

and not about her daughters.

- Think if your 14-year-old daughter's asking you,

"Mom, what is a threesome,"

or "Why were you guys talking about that?"

- They already know if they haven't had one already.

And it is true. Teenagers have sex.

They have gay sex, straight sex, threesomes.

That's what's happening.

Stop the false outrage.

- Denise, were you upset by that comment?

- Uh, I was, yeah, I was. I was actually quite surprised.

- So you thought it was about your daughters

and not about teenagers in general?

- Of course you did. - It was definitely--

- 'Cause that's convenient for you.

- Have you seen how the fans have come at us because of it?

I--I hope you have.

- Of course. [chuckles] - Of course she did.

She liked it. She liked a couple of comments.

- [chuckling] She likes it.

- Why would I like this? Why?

How would we move forward as a group?

- You liked some stuff on Twitter.

- The other thing is, you liked about Erika,

what actually made me feel sick to my stomach.

- Denise, you thought-- you liked a comment

that said Lisa Rinna should lose her job.

- No, I did not. - (BLEEP) outta here.

- Yeah, you did. Yeah, you did.

- Yeah, you did.

- That I did not know it was for that.

It was actually a comment to you, Erika,

- That's right. In the same thing.

- About the comment you made about my daughter.

- Did you say Lisa Rinna should lose her job?

- No, it was actually by accident and that's the truth.

I only saw the comment about Erika that I was commenting.

- She said that I should lose my job and that I'm a racist.

- Lisa, that's not true and you can talk to Jill.

- A racist?

- Denise, you liked the tweet,

and in liking the tweet, it says everything.

- Lisa-- - That's right.

-Ah--the tweet that I liked was in reference to Erika.

- It says everything.

- I did not know she was underneath it.

That's the truth.

- What, in reference to me saying that teenagers have sex?

Not your daughters. Teenagers in general.

They have sex. That is true.

- And again, and again-- - Okay, hold on.

I'm gonna get to that.

- Hold on.

And again, you did it a public forum.

You liked a tweet like that that was so vile and so nasty.

You knew exactly what you were doing.

- Lisa--

- Don't you (BLEEP) around and lie to me about that.

- I'm not lying to you.

Why would I take it down, then?

- Because you got called out.

Because Bravo ----ing called you and said, "Take it down."

- I did not know what she was talking about.

- Oh, ----ing shut up. - I liked the tweet with Erika.

- Denise, you lie, lie, lie, lie, lie.

- Okay, I have another question.

Denise, when you said stuff last season that was--

that was fun, that we all responded to,

that we all loved,

did you have to sit your kids down and say,

"Look, I said this on the show and it's gonna come out?"

- I want to not censor myself, but, um, at the same time,

it's walking a fine line of knowing in the back of my mind

certain things that could come up.

[stutters] My kids do not watch this show.

They've heard things-- - Bullsh--, bullsh--.

Your kids watch this show. Bullsh--.

- No, they don't actually watch this show, Lisa.

- Yes, they do.

- They didn't watch the scenes they were in?

They don't know anything we've been talking about, none of it?

- My kids don't like to watch themselves.

I know--say what you want.

They did see--hear some things from their friends,

and they saw some things online, so that part they did.

- Did they hear about the happy ending?

- Did they hear about that?

Or did they just hear about, you know,

the bad things about us as a group?

- I can't hear you because I was talking. I'm sorry?

[chuckling]

- I said did they hear about the happy ending

or did they just hear the bad things about the group?

Do you pick and choose?

Do they pick and choose what they hear

or do they hear it all?

- I don't tell them what they're gonna hear

and not hear--

- The whole ----ing world knows about Denise's husband

going and getting a happy ending

from, like, a hundred-year-old woman.

- Okay, let me--okay, let me get in here.

Denise, so--

- How much did that cost?

- The conversation among the women

was that you were so open last season--

- Yeah, we've already talked about that. [chuckles]

- I know.

So my question to you is,

were you consciously, as Lisa Rinna suggested--

- I need some lip gloss.

- At some point during the season she felt like

maybe you were trying to, uh, change your image this season.

- That's what I'm saying.

- No, I felt very uncomfortable, um,

early on in the season with the women

where I felt like I was on the receiving end of,

you know, being a target, truthfully.

- You weren't a target, you weren't a target.

- Do you--is--is there any part of you that

sees why the women are confused about how open you were about--

- Yeah, absolutely,

but here's the thing that I am confused by,

is agree to disagree and move on from it,

but I wasn't the one that kept bringing it up

every single dinner.

- Yes, you were.

♪ Gaslighting, gaslighting ♪

♪ Let's have some gaslighting ♪

That's what I have to say about all this bullsh--.

It's all gaslighting.

Good job, Denise. Good job.

♪ ♪

- Thank you, Lisa Rinna. - Wow.

- You're welcome.

♪ ♪

- Next week, the reunion continues.

That naked photo that you posted

was, like, the greatest thing.

- I ----ing love attention. Hello!

- You spent over $10,000 shopping in Rome.

- Thanks for putting that on blast

when my husband was watching the show with me.

- I have to move on or I'm gonna die.

- Please. [laughter]

- Take me with you.

That has nothing to do with me not supporting Erika.

Don't--don't--you're making something out of nothing.

I'm done. - You know.

- This is bullsh--.

- Denise. - What?

- You can't keep lying.

- You can't keep playing this card, either,

and playing this game.

- Now you're saying she's not a friend

and she's just an acquaintance.

- I feel like you're trying to discredit this,

and that's not cool.

- I'm showing all sides.

- You said way worse things about me to Brandi

than what she even told me.

- According to who, Brandi? - You.

- You actually just said that in your confession.

- You said it! - You guys are so vicious.

- I feel that the coverup is worse than the crime.

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