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MAN:
From 1989 to 2001,
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there were almost
no legitimate winners
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in the McDonald's Monopoly game.
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I mean, how crazy bullshit
is that? (LAUGHS)
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(CASH REGISTER DINGS)
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McDonald's makes french fries
and apple pies.
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They don't make marketing.
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MAN 2: Simon Marketing actually
produced and came up with
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the Monopoly game.
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The FBI told us the game pieces
are being stolen.
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MAN: And the person
who's controlling this
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is this Uncle Jerry.
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We had this one shot.
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I wanted to burn down
the criminal enterprise.
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So, we were on the wire taps
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to find out the depths
of this scheme.
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MAN 3: We did an analysis
of past winners' phone records.
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MAN 4: All these phone calls
include Jerome Jacobson,
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also known as Jerry Jacobson,
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head of security
for Simon Marketing.
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[bright tone]
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[dramatic music]
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[indistinct chatter]
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- Hey, here's a man who looks
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like he has something to say.
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- Are we all set, Ronnie?
- Well, I bet!
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Oh!
- Hey, careful.
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- Looks like he's got flubber
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shoes on, too, today.
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[laughter]
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- A wonderful anonymous donor
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mailed a Mono--a Monopoly
game piece,
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and right here
in the middle of it
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was a little winning ticket
of $1 million.
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- Whoa!
- Hey, wow!
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[cheers and applause]
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[dramatic music]
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- Somebody won
a $1 million Monopoly game
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at McDonald's,
and God bless him,
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decided to send that money
to the children of St. Jude.
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- Well, this is a great day.
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Uh, we and McDonald's have
a game going,
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which, uh, a person won
a game piece
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in--in Texas and mailed it
to St. Jude's anonymously
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and, uh, McDonald's worked out
a way to pay the game piece
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even though it could--really
can't be transferred.
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- It's just a wonderful
Christmas story
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that someone would give
that way anonymously
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and not want any recognition,
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uh, for the children
at St. Jude.
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♪ ♪
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- The McDonald's Monopoly game
went back to 1987
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and so we didn't know how long
the contest was fixed.
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- St. Jude's was listed
as a winner which,
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you know, was, uh,
certainly an anomaly.
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We didn't know if this
is part of this conspiracy.
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- We didn't know how
Jerry Jacobson
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was involved
in this fraud scheme
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or if he was Uncle Jerry.
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I mean, at first you just think
it's an alias name
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but at least it was
at least half of the name.
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- Hey, help me,
Fred, will you?
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Ooh, this is heavy.
Ooh, ooh!
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- Odds of finding
the winning piece
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were one
in more than 206,000,000.
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Odds of someone giving it away,
Heaven only knows.
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[tense music]
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♪ ♪
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♪ ♪
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[seagulls squawking]
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- My name is Marvin Braun.
I live in Miami, Florida.
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Jerry Jacobson
is my stepbrother, yes.
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He is my stepbrother.
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- Yeah, I mean we grew up as--
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I don't think
brother brothers,
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but we grew up close.
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We're only a week apart
in age.
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His dream in life was always
becoming an FBI agent.
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- There I was out
on my first assignment.
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- It never worked out,
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but it's funny.
It's a funny story.
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If you said to me
to describe this story,
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I would say,
"Don't believe it,"
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but it's true.
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Don't believe it.
[laughs]
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Just weird.
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It's just weird
how it happened.
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[tense music]
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He had discussed about
the game pieces one time.
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I think it was 1989
and we had discussed
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how, you know, he--he would
be able to possibly get
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the $25,000 game piece,
and, um, you know,
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if we could do something with
it and, you know, whatever.
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♪ ♪
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A month later
or six weeks later--
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I don't remember--
he showed up with a piece.
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And he says, uh, cash it in.
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There was an 800 number
to, uh, call, which I did,
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and they gave me instructions.
I went to the post office.
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I registered it--whatever the
words are at the post office--
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and everything else,
and I sent it in.
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♪ ♪
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I think I was the first person
to turn a ticket in.
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♪ ♪
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He knew I knew--I, um--
I'd keep my mouth shut.
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I guess that's the right way
of saying it.
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He trusted me with it,
you know?
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- No.
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No.
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♪ ♪
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- So we were looking into
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Simon Marketing's
"Jerry Jacobson."
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♪ ♪
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Once we got
the title III surveillance
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listening to phone calls,
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we had him on the wire
all day, all night.
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- So we had thought,
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"Hey, this may be
the main guy."
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So then we started focusing
more on trying
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to figure out who he was.
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- After really digging into
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this Jerome Jacobson
background,
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we discovered among
other things that, you know,
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he had been a police officer
in--in Hollywood, Florida.
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[upbeat music]
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♪ ♪
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- To become a police officer,
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you have to be
a level-headed individual.
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Honesty and trustworthiness
is paramount.
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Jerry Jacobson was a patrolman
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and, uh, he came to me in
the parking lot one morning.
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At that time I was
investigating the death
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of a newborn baby.
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We had no leads at all,
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and Jerry told me that he had
some psychic friends
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that read about the case
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and that they were willing
to assist.
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My reaction was I was grateful
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and I did take him up
on the offer.
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I don't know that there's
anything wrong
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having psychics as friends.
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I thought that
was pretty wonderful.
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- I met Jerry at the
Hollywood Police Department.
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We both were on the same squad
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and we started about
the same time,
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and one day he showed up
at my front door
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to inform me that my boyfriend
was cheating on me.
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So that's how I met Jerry.
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[laughing]
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[dramatic music]
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We dated off and on,
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and there were some good times
and some bad times,
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but, um, we got married
in Tennessee.
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I think it was '81,
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and Jerry became a stepfather
to my sons.
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- This big long silence isn't
gonna be in there, is it?
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[laughing]
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[distant car passing]
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One day he started to shave
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and he couldn't reach
all the way up to shave.
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It was difficult,
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and it was getting
more difficult
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every time he tried to move.
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By noon,
he couldn't lift his arms...
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He couldn't lift his arms,
period,
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so I took him to the hospital.
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[distant siren blaring]
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And they ran the test
for multiple sclerosis
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and Guillain-Barré
and a couple of other things
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and he had the Guillain-Barré.
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He says he's got MS...
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[dramatic music]
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But technically
it was Guillain-Barré
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and I--I took leave
from my work
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and spent time
at the hospital with him
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'cause his mother was gonna
put him in a nursing home.
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I gave him 15 minutes a day
to feel sorry for himself
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and after that 15 minutes,
we're gonna work,
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'cause I felt like
if we kept working,
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maybe we could stay ahead
of the paralysis.
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So I fed him
and gave him showers
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and walked him
up and down the hall
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and all that stuff.
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♪ ♪
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After six or eight months,
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he finally turned around
before it got
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to his respiratory system.
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It was getting there,
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but it didn't quite take over.
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So--and then the next day;
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after the next couple of days,
it stabilized,
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and then started turning around
a little bit.
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♪ ♪
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- There's always a question,
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why somebody leaves a
law enforcement career early.
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Many times there's
a good reason,
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but--but there's always
a question.
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It's not typical.
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Um, and--and in his case,
you know,
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we learned that he had,
you know--
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he had a--a condi--health
condition or an accident that,
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you know,
had him go out, I guess,
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on a disability.
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- He moved to Atlanta because
there was a doctor in Atlanta
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or a hospital that dealt
with nothing but MS.
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I think the MS really threw
his life completely
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because I think he always
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wanted to be
in law enforcement,
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and having the MS
completely changed his life.
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[dramatic music]
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- We moved
to Atlanta together.
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I got a job shortly after
we came here in security.
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He started getting better...
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♪ ♪
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And at that point,
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he wanted to go back to work.
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Simon Marketing offered him
a job working security
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for the Monopoly promotions.
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♪ ♪
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- We as the FBI could not
and logically would not
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march into Simon Marketing
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and start asking questions
about Jerry and that process.
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You know, generally when the
FBI starts asking questions,
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people, you know--
people get--
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get a little spun up
and wonder, really, why.
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- We were working hand in hand
with McDonald's
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just trying to figure out
how much they knew
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about Simon Marketing.
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Surprisingly, McDonald's
didn't know much
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about the process that
Simon Marketing went through
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with their promotional games.
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- I wasn't familiar
with Simon Marketing at all
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until this investigation began.
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After that meeting
with the FBI,
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I realized that I needed
to learn a little bit more
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about Simon Marketing
and the promotion,
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so I set up a meeting
with Simon Marketing
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under the guise of
trying to learn how
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the security procedures
were in place.
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[dramatic music]
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- We were able
to enlist McDonald's
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to do these inquiries
on our behalf,
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but I think also
on their behalf, too.
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- Yeah, yeah, no.
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We--we would--we would have
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not told McDonald's.
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Because if we're wrong,
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we've--we've sullied
somebody's reputation
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for no good reason.
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- I don't know how much
he was making at Simon.
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His wife was working.
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I don't know
if he needed the money.
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- No, I think he said
he has a contact
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to get them or something.
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I think it was contact.
It was not him.
257
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It was not him.
258
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It was not him.
259
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- He--go ahead.
I'm--
260
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- He--he--he gave me the idea
261
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it was not him
stealing the tickets,
262
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that he had a contact how
to get the tickets.
263
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I was under the impression
Jerry was the security for it.
264
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In other words,
265
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that another person
was taking the tickets
266
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or whatever.
I wasn't sure.
267
00:14:06,631 --> 00:14:09,005
I thought Jerry was security.
268
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[tense music]
269
00:14:11,964 --> 00:14:13,756
- When I met
with Simon Marketing,
270
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we went through
the security procedures
271
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and the procedures
at the printing press.
272
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They actually had
a very thorough
273
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and comprehensive operation
for ensuring the security
274
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and integrity of their--
of our game pieces,
275
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so I was very pleased
with what I saw.
276
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♪ ♪
277
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- McDonald's reports
that at the facility there,
278
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it was incredibly secure
and that this idea
279
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that--that things
are--are loose
280
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or that they could walk
right out of there
281
00:14:40,547 --> 00:14:43,089
was--was, you know,
almost impossible.
282
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Highly un--highly,
highly unlikely.
283
00:14:46,464 --> 00:14:49,506
The obvious question was
how this whole process worked.
284
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How were--how were game
pieces printed, distributed?
285
00:14:54,297 --> 00:14:58,464
- Simon Marketing had these
game pieces made
286
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just north of Atlanta
287
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by a secure printing business.
288
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♪ ♪
289
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[country music]
290
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♪ ♪
291
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- My name is Jack Sisk.
292
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I actually was working
in security at Dittler
293
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when--for around 15 years,
actually.
294
00:15:24,547 --> 00:15:26,089
- My name's Perry Pealock,
295
00:15:26,172 --> 00:15:27,756
and I was
the bindery supervisor.
296
00:15:27,839 --> 00:15:30,923
- Name's Doyle Grant,
and I was shipping clerk.
297
00:15:31,005 --> 00:15:34,547
- My name's Gilben Peeples,
and I was the parch clerk
298
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in the maintenance department.
299
00:15:36,714 --> 00:15:38,422
- Dittler Brothers Printing
300
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was a very secure
printing company,
301
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and that's how we got into
the lottery business
302
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and into scratch-off games.
303
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- And I think that's
one of the reasons
304
00:15:49,506 --> 00:15:51,339
that we got the U.S.
postage stamp job
305
00:15:51,422 --> 00:15:53,297
because the federal
government said,
306
00:15:53,381 --> 00:15:54,839
"Hey, this place
is really secure,"
307
00:15:54,923 --> 00:15:56,756
'cause we got that
and it went real well.
308
00:15:56,839 --> 00:15:58,547
- And then it grew from there.
309
00:15:58,631 --> 00:15:59,756
You know,
three or four years,
310
00:15:59,839 --> 00:16:02,130
and McDonald's millions
and millions of dollars
311
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to pay to print all this stuff.
312
00:16:04,673 --> 00:16:06,422
- I was the director
of security
313
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for Dittler Brothers
between 1987 and 2000,
314
00:16:12,005 --> 00:16:15,464
and I worked with Jerry when
they were running Monopoly
315
00:16:15,547 --> 00:16:19,005
because Simon and Dittler
were real close.
316
00:16:19,381 --> 00:16:22,339
[dramatic music]
317
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♪ ♪
318
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- We had people
in Dittler Brothers 24 hours.
319
00:16:28,255 --> 00:16:31,130
The Dittler Brothers facility
was very secure.
320
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You had to go through
a guard shack
321
00:16:33,631 --> 00:16:34,673
to get into the facility,
322
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you had to sign in when
323
00:16:35,881 --> 00:16:36,923
you got into the facility,
324
00:16:37,005 --> 00:16:38,422
then you had to go through
325
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another guard
to get into the room
326
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where the state lotteries
are being produced
327
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along with our game pieces.
328
00:16:46,214 --> 00:16:48,172
- When Monopoly was running,
329
00:16:48,255 --> 00:16:50,005
it would just about take
330
00:16:50,089 --> 00:16:51,589
everything
in the plant running,
331
00:16:51,673 --> 00:16:53,172
it would get so big.
332
00:16:53,255 --> 00:16:56,839
That was our largest customer
by a long shot.
333
00:16:56,923 --> 00:16:58,547
You're talking
hundreds of millions
334
00:16:58,631 --> 00:17:00,339
of game pieces,
you know.
335
00:17:00,422 --> 00:17:03,464
- When we did press runs
of winners,
336
00:17:03,547 --> 00:17:05,547
we pretty much surrounded
the press.
337
00:17:05,631 --> 00:17:06,589
They had alarm systems.
338
00:17:06,673 --> 00:17:08,089
They had cameras.
339
00:17:08,172 --> 00:17:09,839
The gate was opened
and it wasn't us,
340
00:17:09,923 --> 00:17:11,381
alarm would go off.
341
00:17:11,464 --> 00:17:12,422
- Well, we had a big vault
342
00:17:12,506 --> 00:17:14,089
we had the winners in.
343
00:17:14,172 --> 00:17:15,881
♪ ♪
344
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- There were two locks.
345
00:17:17,714 --> 00:17:21,005
It's almost like, you know,
back in the Cold War,
346
00:17:21,089 --> 00:17:23,297
you'd have two people
in a missile silo,
347
00:17:23,381 --> 00:17:24,673
and it takes two.
348
00:17:24,756 --> 00:17:27,673
- Jerry was in there for Simon
349
00:17:27,756 --> 00:17:30,047
to make sure that
Dittler Brothers
350
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were doing their jobs.
351
00:17:31,673 --> 00:17:35,589
Jerry would stand behind
and look over their shoulder
352
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and get their combination.
353
00:17:37,756 --> 00:17:41,631
Then he would raise holy hell
354
00:17:41,714 --> 00:17:43,631
because we allowed him
to do that.
355
00:17:45,464 --> 00:17:47,881
- All the game pieces
that were produced
356
00:17:47,964 --> 00:17:50,047
by Dittler Brothers
were loaded on trucks.
357
00:17:50,130 --> 00:17:53,214
- Security would actually
physically lock
358
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the back of the truck.
359
00:17:54,798 --> 00:17:56,089
- Once that truck left,
360
00:17:56,172 --> 00:17:58,172
we normally would get
on an airplane,
361
00:17:58,255 --> 00:17:59,547
fly to that city,
362
00:17:59,631 --> 00:18:01,089
and meet the truck
the next morning
363
00:18:01,172 --> 00:18:03,381
to unlock it,
break the seal,
364
00:18:03,464 --> 00:18:07,047
verify what was loaded.
365
00:18:07,130 --> 00:18:08,422
- My name's Brian Litteral.
366
00:18:08,506 --> 00:18:11,381
I worked
security/quality control
367
00:18:11,464 --> 00:18:14,631
for the games that McDonald's
usually ran.
368
00:18:14,714 --> 00:18:16,589
We would bring
the labels out--
369
00:18:16,673 --> 00:18:18,255
free drinks,
free fries--
370
00:18:18,339 --> 00:18:20,756
and the two pieces
would assemble together,
371
00:18:20,839 --> 00:18:22,714
the label on top of the cup.
372
00:18:22,798 --> 00:18:24,631
[dramatic music]
373
00:18:24,714 --> 00:18:28,089
The higher-level winners was
done by a completely different
374
00:18:28,172 --> 00:18:29,881
more secure process.
375
00:18:29,964 --> 00:18:33,714
I would usually get a call
saying that Jerry was gonna be
376
00:18:33,798 --> 00:18:36,714
coming in with, uh,
an independent auditor.
377
00:18:36,798 --> 00:18:38,756
♪ ♪
378
00:18:38,839 --> 00:18:40,631
- Dittler Security
has to be there,
379
00:18:40,714 --> 00:18:42,422
Simon has to be there,
380
00:18:42,506 --> 00:18:44,005
the auditor has to be there,
381
00:18:44,089 --> 00:18:46,881
and the customer service rep
has to be there,
382
00:18:46,964 --> 00:18:49,589
and they all witnessed
the winner run.
383
00:18:49,673 --> 00:18:52,422
- The auditor would unlock
the suitcase.
384
00:18:52,506 --> 00:18:53,964
There was an envelope inside
385
00:18:54,047 --> 00:18:55,923
with signatures across
the seal
386
00:18:56,005 --> 00:18:58,798
to make sure that it was still
the same contents
387
00:18:58,881 --> 00:19:00,214
as to when it was packaged,
388
00:19:00,297 --> 00:19:01,673
and inside there,
389
00:19:01,756 --> 00:19:03,756
there would be a certain
number of seeds.
390
00:19:03,839 --> 00:19:05,631
This is what a seed
would look like,
391
00:19:05,714 --> 00:19:06,964
one of which
was a high-level winner.
392
00:19:07,047 --> 00:19:08,130
The rest were commons,
393
00:19:08,214 --> 00:19:09,464
and then I would insert them
394
00:19:09,547 --> 00:19:11,464
in various production lines.
395
00:19:11,547 --> 00:19:13,130
- No one knew,
396
00:19:13,214 --> 00:19:14,798
and no one was supposed
to know,
397
00:19:14,881 --> 00:19:17,422
where the high-level
winner was.
398
00:19:17,506 --> 00:19:20,297
♪ ♪
399
00:19:20,381 --> 00:19:22,255
- So you go into
the McDonald's,
400
00:19:22,339 --> 00:19:24,005
you open up the game piece,
401
00:19:24,089 --> 00:19:26,422
and maybe you're a instant
$1 million winner.
402
00:19:26,506 --> 00:19:28,756
- I won!
- I won!
403
00:19:28,839 --> 00:19:31,297
- And so when these
game pieces got
404
00:19:31,381 --> 00:19:34,005
to the Simon Marketing
redemption center,
405
00:19:34,089 --> 00:19:36,005
and it goes through
the process of,
406
00:19:36,089 --> 00:19:37,673
"Do we have a real winner..."
407
00:19:37,756 --> 00:19:41,464
♪ ♪
408
00:19:41,547 --> 00:19:45,631
They literally would be opened
by a person with gloves--
409
00:19:45,714 --> 00:19:48,547
it is all being recorded--
410
00:19:48,631 --> 00:19:52,130
and there would always
be an error made
411
00:19:52,214 --> 00:19:54,047
in the winning game piece.
412
00:19:54,130 --> 00:19:56,839
Say, on one corner there's
a little chip
413
00:19:56,923 --> 00:19:58,172
out of the word.
414
00:19:58,255 --> 00:20:02,881
- We also write on
the $1 million winner
415
00:20:02,964 --> 00:20:06,297
a little code on there
with a--a black light pen
416
00:20:06,381 --> 00:20:07,714
that you can't see.
417
00:20:07,798 --> 00:20:10,631
So if you show up with a piece
418
00:20:10,714 --> 00:20:12,547
that doesn't have
the code on it,
419
00:20:12,631 --> 00:20:15,631
you're gonna get caught
real soon.
420
00:20:15,714 --> 00:20:18,047
♪ ♪
421
00:20:18,130 --> 00:20:20,464
- We were always
a little bit overboard
422
00:20:20,547 --> 00:20:23,673
but, uh, you know,
we protected McDonald's,
423
00:20:23,756 --> 00:20:26,547
and--and I think that's
a major reason they used us,
424
00:20:26,631 --> 00:20:28,673
and, uh, of course
Jerry was in there
425
00:20:28,756 --> 00:20:31,506
sort of telling them
how it needed to be built.
426
00:20:35,130 --> 00:20:36,464
- Everybody liked Jerry.
427
00:20:36,547 --> 00:20:38,214
I mean, everybody
in the office liked Jerry.
428
00:20:38,297 --> 00:20:40,881
He wasn't real flashy.
429
00:20:40,964 --> 00:20:42,881
We always had Thanksgiving.
430
00:20:42,964 --> 00:20:46,422
Everybody sort of brought in
a potluck at Thanksgiving,
431
00:20:46,506 --> 00:20:48,547
and Jerry always
brought in ribs,
432
00:20:48,631 --> 00:20:51,047
and his ribs were delicious.
433
00:20:51,130 --> 00:20:53,422
They would just fall
off the bone, you know?
434
00:20:53,506 --> 00:20:55,172
So everybody looked forward
to his ribs,
435
00:20:55,255 --> 00:20:59,297
but, uh, he didn't seem
to be big-headed at all.
436
00:20:59,381 --> 00:21:01,172
- And he was always
very generous.
437
00:21:01,255 --> 00:21:03,089
If he made ribs for himself,
438
00:21:03,172 --> 00:21:05,464
he would make them
for the whole office.
439
00:21:05,547 --> 00:21:09,130
Jerry was--he's
a generous fellow.
440
00:21:09,214 --> 00:21:10,547
We got divorced,
441
00:21:10,631 --> 00:21:13,756
and even when
he was married again
442
00:21:13,839 --> 00:21:15,673
and I needed something,
443
00:21:15,756 --> 00:21:17,923
he would be right there.
444
00:21:18,005 --> 00:21:21,047
There's nothing stingy
about him at all.
445
00:21:21,130 --> 00:21:22,297
After we got divorced,
446
00:21:22,381 --> 00:21:25,422
it was like even though
he was the head
447
00:21:25,506 --> 00:21:26,964
of security for Simon,
448
00:21:27,047 --> 00:21:30,214
he still worked
under my guidelines
449
00:21:30,297 --> 00:21:32,255
in Dittler Brothers.
450
00:21:32,339 --> 00:21:33,839
I told him
if he stole anything,
451
00:21:33,923 --> 00:21:37,130
I'd kill him.
[laughs]
452
00:21:37,214 --> 00:21:40,214
[dramatic music]
453
00:21:40,297 --> 00:21:46,339
♪ ♪
454
00:21:50,047 --> 00:21:51,964
- Exciting.
I'm not gonna lie.
455
00:21:52,047 --> 00:21:53,589
It was exciting
and everything else,
456
00:21:53,673 --> 00:21:56,047
and, uh, you know,
I deposited it,
457
00:21:56,130 --> 00:21:59,005
and we split it.
458
00:21:59,089 --> 00:22:00,547
Down the road,
459
00:22:00,631 --> 00:22:02,255
he came to me and he said that
460
00:22:02,339 --> 00:22:04,881
he could do bigger pieces.
461
00:22:04,964 --> 00:22:09,255
I--I'd not cashed in anything
but a $25,000 ticket,
462
00:22:09,339 --> 00:22:12,047
and I didn't want
any parts of them.
463
00:22:12,130 --> 00:22:14,381
At that time,
464
00:22:14,464 --> 00:22:17,339
I was going to New York, like,
every Tuesday morning
465
00:22:17,422 --> 00:22:19,297
and coming home
every Wednesday night.
466
00:22:19,381 --> 00:22:22,005
I was buying maternity clothes
in New York
467
00:22:22,089 --> 00:22:23,839
for my maternity shop.
468
00:22:23,923 --> 00:22:26,631
So I approached two people who
469
00:22:26,714 --> 00:22:28,172
were manufacturers in New York
470
00:22:28,255 --> 00:22:31,923
that I dealt with for
many, many, many years
471
00:22:32,005 --> 00:22:34,464
and I approached them
if they would be interested
472
00:22:34,547 --> 00:22:36,923
in possibly doing
a deal with Jerry.
473
00:22:38,714 --> 00:22:40,547
- I'd rather not mention names.
474
00:22:46,089 --> 00:22:47,673
- No.
There we--I'm pretty s--
475
00:22:47,756 --> 00:22:51,005
well, maybe his nieces
and nephews.
476
00:22:51,089 --> 00:22:54,339
[laughing]
477
00:22:54,422 --> 00:22:58,631
No, I never heard anybody
refer to him as Uncle Jerry.
478
00:22:58,714 --> 00:23:01,589
[dramatic music]
479
00:23:01,673 --> 00:23:03,214
- For a while,
480
00:23:03,297 --> 00:23:05,339
the question was,
"Well, who is Uncle Jerry?"
481
00:23:05,422 --> 00:23:08,589
Oh, well there's a Jerry
Jacobson working at Simon.
482
00:23:08,673 --> 00:23:11,547
That must be Uncle Jerry.
483
00:23:11,631 --> 00:23:14,923
But there was always this
inference maybe that
484
00:23:15,005 --> 00:23:18,923
Uncle Jerry was--was somehow
connected to organized crime--
485
00:23:19,005 --> 00:23:20,881
Italian organized crime
486
00:23:20,964 --> 00:23:24,881
because the Uncle connotation
gives this kind of
487
00:23:24,964 --> 00:23:29,297
almost like a, you know,
Godfather-ish sort of moniker.
488
00:23:29,381 --> 00:23:31,381
♪ ♪
489
00:23:31,464 --> 00:23:34,422
And we found out that
there was another Jerry
490
00:23:34,506 --> 00:23:39,881
involved in this
named Jerry Colombo.
491
00:23:39,964 --> 00:23:42,631
- People everywhere
are winning big
492
00:23:42,714 --> 00:23:44,923
playing the Monopoly game
at McDonald's.
493
00:23:45,005 --> 00:23:46,923
Jerry Colombo won
a Dodge Viper,
494
00:23:47,005 --> 00:23:50,047
and there are two
$1 million prizes left.
495
00:23:50,130 --> 00:23:51,339
- My name is Frank Colombo.
496
00:23:51,422 --> 00:23:54,297
I'm brother
of "Jerry" Gennaro Colombo.
497
00:23:54,381 --> 00:23:55,714
- And I'm Heather Colombo,
498
00:23:55,798 --> 00:23:59,047
and I am Frank Colombo's wife.
499
00:23:59,130 --> 00:24:01,381
- I really wanted him
to keep the car.
500
00:24:01,464 --> 00:24:03,005
You know, I was, you know,
a young guy.
501
00:24:03,089 --> 00:24:05,255
Like, hey, a Dodge Viper?
That'd be pretty damn cool.
502
00:24:05,339 --> 00:24:06,172
Can I borrow it?
503
00:24:06,255 --> 00:24:08,422
Uh, but it was too small.
504
00:24:08,506 --> 00:24:09,464
I mean, he was a big guy.
505
00:24:09,547 --> 00:24:10,923
Um, but it was kinda funny
506
00:24:11,005 --> 00:24:12,839
'cause all off--all of my
friends were calling me,
507
00:24:12,923 --> 00:24:14,422
"Hey, your brother won--
won the car.
508
00:24:14,506 --> 00:24:15,464
Oh, my God!"
509
00:24:15,547 --> 00:24:16,589
And I'm sitting go--laughing
510
00:24:16,673 --> 00:24:17,923
in the back of my head going,
511
00:24:18,005 --> 00:24:19,381
"Yeah, okay, he won the car.
Sure."
512
00:24:19,464 --> 00:24:21,130
You know, it was kinda--
it was just amusing
513
00:24:21,214 --> 00:24:23,547
that people believed it.
514
00:24:23,631 --> 00:24:24,506
It worked.
515
00:24:24,589 --> 00:24:26,089
[both laughing]
516
00:24:26,172 --> 00:24:29,130
[dramatic music]
517
00:24:29,214 --> 00:24:36,255
♪ ♪
518
00:24:44,381 --> 00:24:45,839
- I'm Robin Colombo.
519
00:24:45,923 --> 00:24:49,589
My husband is Jerry Colombo--
Gennaro Colombo.
520
00:24:49,673 --> 00:24:51,798
♪ ♪
521
00:24:51,881 --> 00:24:54,714
He was part of the Colombo
crime family.
522
00:24:54,798 --> 00:24:58,506
♪ ♪
523
00:24:58,589 --> 00:25:03,089
That commercial,
that almost cost him his life,
524
00:25:03,172 --> 00:25:05,714
because he wasn't supposed
to do a commercial.
525
00:25:12,089 --> 00:25:14,172
- Because he's a ham.
526
00:25:14,255 --> 00:25:16,005
He was even gonna be
in a movie
527
00:25:16,089 --> 00:25:18,673
with Jackie Chan,
as a matter of fact.
528
00:25:18,756 --> 00:25:21,839
I said, "What?
That don't even sound right.
529
00:25:21,923 --> 00:25:26,673
You, a big-ass Sicilian,
and a Chinaman,
530
00:25:26,756 --> 00:25:30,506
in a western?
I said, "Oh, my God."
531
00:25:30,589 --> 00:25:34,005
And it was that
"Shanghai Noon--Night,"
532
00:25:34,089 --> 00:25:37,506
whatever it is.
It was that.
533
00:25:37,589 --> 00:25:40,756
- Ma, come get this dog
outta here.
534
00:25:40,839 --> 00:25:44,297
- The Sicilian culture,
of course, is family first
535
00:25:44,381 --> 00:25:46,047
no matter what,
536
00:25:46,130 --> 00:25:47,923
but when I met her,
537
00:25:48,005 --> 00:25:49,547
I didn't want her
to know my last name,
538
00:25:49,631 --> 00:25:53,047
'cause I wanted her to know me
and not my family.
539
00:25:53,130 --> 00:25:54,506
- As a matter of fact,
540
00:25:54,589 --> 00:25:56,506
for the first three
to four months,
541
00:25:56,589 --> 00:25:58,297
I didn't even know his name.
542
00:25:58,381 --> 00:26:00,881
He would go by a completely
different name,
543
00:26:00,964 --> 00:26:03,881
and only did I see a bracelet
on his wrist one day
544
00:26:03,964 --> 00:26:07,255
and I questioned him
on the name that said Frank C.
545
00:26:07,339 --> 00:26:08,798
I mean,
this is entirely different
546
00:26:08,881 --> 00:26:10,089
from the name that he gave me.
547
00:26:10,172 --> 00:26:14,005
- Yes, uh, she--I
went by Tony Ayanatti.
548
00:26:14,089 --> 00:26:16,422
[both laughing]
549
00:26:16,506 --> 00:26:18,047
I kinda keep that
in the background, you know?
550
00:26:18,130 --> 00:26:22,297
Not too many people know
who my family is until now.
551
00:26:22,381 --> 00:26:23,714
[upbeat music]
552
00:26:23,798 --> 00:26:25,422
- Five families
have run New York's
553
00:26:25,506 --> 00:26:26,881
Italian-American mafia.
554
00:26:26,964 --> 00:26:28,047
The names are familiar:
555
00:26:28,130 --> 00:26:29,881
Bonanno, Gambino, Genovese,
556
00:26:29,964 --> 00:26:32,339
Lucchese, and Colombo.
557
00:26:32,422 --> 00:26:34,214
- Police in Brooklyn
pulled a man's body
558
00:26:34,297 --> 00:26:36,714
out of the water
duct-taped inside a blue tarp.
559
00:26:36,798 --> 00:26:39,297
Police say someone also tied
a cinder block
560
00:26:39,381 --> 00:26:40,673
to the victim's ankles.
561
00:26:40,756 --> 00:26:42,506
- My name is Joe Colombo.
562
00:26:42,589 --> 00:26:44,839
I should be treated the same
as anybody else.
563
00:26:44,923 --> 00:26:46,422
- Joe Colombo:
564
00:26:46,506 --> 00:26:48,714
real estate broker,
mafia boss,
565
00:26:48,798 --> 00:26:50,255
and one of the biggest con men
566
00:26:50,339 --> 00:26:52,589
in the history
of organized crime.
567
00:26:52,673 --> 00:26:54,964
- What was your reaction when
you learned that this shooting
568
00:26:55,047 --> 00:26:56,422
had occurred at the Colombos'?
569
00:26:56,506 --> 00:26:59,005
- I just heard, like, shots--
about eight shots,
570
00:26:59,089 --> 00:27:00,589
and it's--I didn't think
they were shots.
571
00:27:00,673 --> 00:27:02,214
I thought they were
firecrackers.
572
00:27:02,297 --> 00:27:04,881
- His high profile
caused rival mob bosses
573
00:27:04,964 --> 00:27:06,089
to okay his murder.
574
00:27:06,172 --> 00:27:07,381
- The man some called
575
00:27:07,464 --> 00:27:08,631
an underworld boss.
576
00:27:08,714 --> 00:27:10,881
♪ ♪
577
00:27:10,964 --> 00:27:13,297
- My brother wasn't the normal,
you know--
578
00:27:13,381 --> 00:27:15,297
when you want "The Sopranos,"
you know,
579
00:27:15,381 --> 00:27:17,839
and he's, uh--the guy's talking
to them, you know,
580
00:27:17,923 --> 00:27:19,130
all, "Hey, forget about it,"
581
00:27:19,214 --> 00:27:20,464
and all this kind of nonsense.
582
00:27:20,547 --> 00:27:21,923
- Forget about it.
- Forget about it.
583
00:27:22,005 --> 00:27:23,381
- Ah, forget about it.
584
00:27:23,464 --> 00:27:24,464
- Forget about it.
585
00:27:24,547 --> 00:27:30,047
- [screaming]
[blows landing]
586
00:27:30,130 --> 00:27:31,422
- That's--that's the movies.
587
00:27:31,506 --> 00:27:34,297
Now, did he do things
like that?
588
00:27:34,381 --> 00:27:36,673
Absolutely, you know?
589
00:27:36,756 --> 00:27:39,464
But he did it with humor.
590
00:27:39,547 --> 00:27:40,964
You know, more like,
I guess--
591
00:27:41,047 --> 00:27:44,130
I guess if you got, uh,
Marlon Brando and Joe Pesci
592
00:27:44,214 --> 00:27:45,339
and put them together,
593
00:27:45,422 --> 00:27:46,714
you'd probably end up
with my brother.
594
00:27:46,798 --> 00:27:47,798
[both laughing]
595
00:27:47,881 --> 00:27:50,130
You know?
That's pretty much it.
596
00:27:50,214 --> 00:27:51,214
- That was it.
597
00:27:51,297 --> 00:27:52,964
- Uh, now that
I think about this,
598
00:27:53,047 --> 00:27:57,005
if you got Al Capone
and Rodney Dangerfield
599
00:27:57,089 --> 00:27:58,923
and mashed them together,
600
00:27:59,005 --> 00:28:02,214
you get my brother.
I think that's a good analogy.
601
00:28:03,130 --> 00:28:06,089
[upbeat music]
602
00:28:06,172 --> 00:28:08,673
♪ ♪
603
00:28:08,756 --> 00:28:10,673
- The first time I met Jerry,
604
00:28:10,756 --> 00:28:12,547
we looked at each other,
605
00:28:12,631 --> 00:28:18,506
and it was like the chemistry
between us was crazy.
606
00:28:18,589 --> 00:28:20,839
Um, like you see in a cartoon,
you know,
607
00:28:20,923 --> 00:28:23,255
everything like,
"Boom, boom."
608
00:28:23,339 --> 00:28:25,673
I was having a long-distance
relationship
609
00:28:25,756 --> 00:28:27,130
with a federal agent.
610
00:28:27,214 --> 00:28:29,339
It was not that fun.
611
00:28:29,422 --> 00:28:31,923
And, um,
Jerry was fun,
612
00:28:32,005 --> 00:28:35,005
so I chose him.
613
00:28:35,089 --> 00:28:38,214
My father was military
and strict.
614
00:28:38,297 --> 00:28:40,047
Very strict.
615
00:28:40,130 --> 00:28:42,047
So, yeah, that didn't
go over so well,
616
00:28:42,130 --> 00:28:44,047
but I didn't care.
617
00:28:44,130 --> 00:28:46,130
- [singing in
foreign language]
618
00:28:46,214 --> 00:28:48,881
- I rebelled.
619
00:28:48,964 --> 00:28:50,798
- [singing in
foreign language]
620
00:28:50,881 --> 00:28:53,714
- We were married
in Panama City, Florida.
621
00:28:53,798 --> 00:28:57,547
It wasn't as extravagant
as you would think
622
00:28:57,631 --> 00:28:59,422
because I was pregnant,
623
00:28:59,506 --> 00:29:01,172
so no Catholic wedding.
624
00:29:01,255 --> 00:29:06,172
- [singing in
foreign language]
625
00:29:06,255 --> 00:29:08,047
- My brother Jerry
had his hands
626
00:29:08,130 --> 00:29:10,047
in a lot of different avenues.
627
00:29:10,130 --> 00:29:13,422
He had some, uh, bookieing
things that he was doing
628
00:29:13,506 --> 00:29:15,047
with bookies and what have you.
629
00:29:15,130 --> 00:29:19,089
Uh, he was in charge of, uh,
security at the Taj Mahal
630
00:29:19,172 --> 00:29:20,089
for a few years.
631
00:29:20,172 --> 00:29:21,506
Uh, that was the old,
632
00:29:21,589 --> 00:29:22,714
uh, Trump Taj Mahal.
633
00:29:22,798 --> 00:29:25,547
Uh, he would gamble and, uh,
634
00:29:25,631 --> 00:29:27,172
he would win a lot.
635
00:29:27,255 --> 00:29:29,506
I don't know if it was--that
was rigged as well.
636
00:29:29,589 --> 00:29:31,756
Possibly.
Everything's rigged in life.
637
00:29:31,839 --> 00:29:33,798
- Trust nothing anymore.
- Yeah.
638
00:29:33,881 --> 00:29:36,381
He was always looking at a way
639
00:29:36,464 --> 00:29:40,422
to make some good easy money.
640
00:29:40,506 --> 00:29:44,339
- You know we had the little
gray M&M as well.
641
00:29:44,422 --> 00:29:45,506
Did you know that?
642
00:29:45,589 --> 00:29:48,255
Okay, I used to smoke
a half a joint a night.
643
00:29:48,339 --> 00:29:50,172
I needed to relax.
644
00:29:50,255 --> 00:29:51,964
I need to put on
something funny
645
00:29:52,047 --> 00:29:53,506
and just let me chill.
646
00:29:53,589 --> 00:29:54,964
[laughs]
647
00:29:55,047 --> 00:29:56,381
Well...
648
00:29:57,172 --> 00:29:59,422
When I would wake up
in the middle of the night,
649
00:29:59,506 --> 00:30:00,798
I had to have something sweet,
650
00:30:00,881 --> 00:30:03,881
so I had Reese's cups
down in the kitchen, right?
651
00:30:03,964 --> 00:30:08,130
So he had to let me know
there was a gray M&M
652
00:30:08,214 --> 00:30:11,547
wrapped in aluminum foil
and he told me,
653
00:30:11,631 --> 00:30:12,631
"Don't touch it."
654
00:30:12,714 --> 00:30:13,714
- The rules say if you find
655
00:30:13,798 --> 00:30:14,923
the gray imposter M&M's,
656
00:30:15,005 --> 00:30:16,798
the winning bag could be worth
657
00:30:16,881 --> 00:30:18,005
$1 million!
658
00:30:18,089 --> 00:30:19,130
- Show me the money!
659
00:30:19,214 --> 00:30:21,631
- And then, um, he says,
660
00:30:21,714 --> 00:30:25,214
"You're also gonna win
a Publishers Clearing House,"
661
00:30:25,297 --> 00:30:26,798
where they come
to your door and knock.
662
00:30:26,881 --> 00:30:28,214
- You have won
$1 million
663
00:30:28,297 --> 00:30:29,297
from Publishers
Clearing House.
664
00:30:29,381 --> 00:30:30,297
- I can't believe it!
665
00:30:30,381 --> 00:30:31,297
- This is the truth!
666
00:30:31,381 --> 00:30:32,756
- Real people really win
667
00:30:32,839 --> 00:30:34,631
the Publishers Clearing House
sweepstakes.
668
00:30:34,714 --> 00:30:37,047
- They're probably gonna say,
"Oh, bullshit."
669
00:30:37,130 --> 00:30:38,964
You know, all that,
but I'm just telling you
670
00:30:39,047 --> 00:30:40,631
what my husband told me.
671
00:30:40,714 --> 00:30:42,631
♪ ♪
672
00:30:42,714 --> 00:30:45,130
Jerry wanted something big.
673
00:30:45,214 --> 00:30:46,339
He kept threatening,
674
00:30:46,422 --> 00:30:48,422
"You know, I can go
work for my uncles
675
00:30:48,506 --> 00:30:49,547
up in New York,"
you know?
676
00:30:49,631 --> 00:30:51,464
I'm like,
"Well, you know what?
677
00:30:51,547 --> 00:30:53,464
I think it's time."
[laughs]
678
00:30:53,547 --> 00:30:56,839
You know, you can spend
too much time with somebody
679
00:30:56,923 --> 00:30:59,589
and you don't play golf
and, um,
680
00:30:59,673 --> 00:31:02,172
I mean, the only golf club
he had was about this big
681
00:31:02,255 --> 00:31:03,714
and that was, well...
682
00:31:04,923 --> 00:31:05,839
[blow lands]
683
00:31:05,923 --> 00:31:07,547
[upbeat music]
684
00:31:07,631 --> 00:31:12,130
So he went up north
and he got with Uncle Dominic
685
00:31:12,214 --> 00:31:13,881
who was a Godfather.
686
00:31:16,881 --> 00:31:20,339
- No, they call that
out of respect.
687
00:31:20,422 --> 00:31:23,047
He wasn't an actual uncle,
688
00:31:23,130 --> 00:31:25,714
but he loved my husband
689
00:31:25,798 --> 00:31:28,589
because my husband
was old school
690
00:31:28,673 --> 00:31:31,047
full-blooded Sicilian.
691
00:31:31,130 --> 00:31:33,673
He was hooking him up
with everything.
692
00:31:36,756 --> 00:31:39,339
- My name's Jennifer Ethridge.
693
00:31:39,422 --> 00:31:40,881
Robin Colombo's my mother.
694
00:31:40,964 --> 00:31:43,381
Jerry Colombo is my stepfather.
695
00:31:43,464 --> 00:31:45,339
You couldn't help not
to like him,
696
00:31:45,422 --> 00:31:47,881
and especially with,
um, you know,
697
00:31:47,964 --> 00:31:51,506
his "career" that he was into.
698
00:31:51,589 --> 00:31:53,839
Um, it was definitely
intriguing.
699
00:31:53,923 --> 00:31:55,839
At the time, you know,
he would show me
700
00:31:55,923 --> 00:31:58,172
duffle bags of money
and whip it out.
701
00:31:58,255 --> 00:31:59,839
"Oh, here you go.
Go buy you something nice."
702
00:31:59,923 --> 00:32:00,798
You know?
703
00:32:00,881 --> 00:32:02,214
And then I'd say
704
00:32:02,297 --> 00:32:04,214
when I was about
15, 16 years old,
705
00:32:04,297 --> 00:32:08,005
that's when Jerry got into
the Monopoly thing,
706
00:32:08,089 --> 00:32:10,172
and then that definitely,
you know--
707
00:32:10,255 --> 00:32:11,839
it was--that was a big deal.
708
00:32:11,923 --> 00:32:15,756
He had promised me, um,
a $1 million ticket
709
00:32:15,839 --> 00:32:18,005
whenever I turned 18,
710
00:32:18,089 --> 00:32:20,589
because nobody could have
the same last name.
711
00:32:20,673 --> 00:32:23,756
Sin--since my last name
was Ethridge,
712
00:32:23,839 --> 00:32:26,047
um, you know,
I was gonna be able to--
713
00:32:26,130 --> 00:32:28,089
to win a $1 million ticket,
and I was like,
714
00:32:28,172 --> 00:32:29,756
"Oh, heck yeah.
Absolutely."
715
00:32:29,839 --> 00:32:31,673
[chuckles]
716
00:32:35,214 --> 00:32:37,798
- Uh, with the Monopoly
situation, um,
717
00:32:37,881 --> 00:32:41,089
Uncle Dominic worked
for family members
718
00:32:41,172 --> 00:32:42,923
in the New York division
719
00:32:43,005 --> 00:32:45,923
and, um, a mutual friend
of his
720
00:32:46,005 --> 00:32:47,464
kind of said,
"Hey, I got this guy
721
00:32:47,547 --> 00:32:49,297
that's doing this and this.
You might be interested,"
722
00:32:49,381 --> 00:32:50,339
and so forth and so on,
723
00:32:50,422 --> 00:32:53,673
and, uh, that was Jerome
724
00:32:53,756 --> 00:32:55,214
from Simon Marketing.
725
00:32:55,297 --> 00:32:57,798
Uh, he was getting
the tickets.
726
00:32:57,881 --> 00:33:00,714
[tense music]
727
00:33:11,381 --> 00:33:13,589
- I don't know.
It could have been.
728
00:33:13,673 --> 00:33:18,881
- I think Jerome possibly
started it on his own
729
00:33:18,964 --> 00:33:20,172
in the beginning,
730
00:33:20,255 --> 00:33:22,547
and then people got wind
of what he was doing
731
00:33:22,631 --> 00:33:26,255
and then they said, "Hey,
let's see if we can use this
732
00:33:26,339 --> 00:33:28,297
as an avenue to expand it,"
733
00:33:28,381 --> 00:33:31,005
and I believe that was brought
to my brother's attention.
734
00:33:31,089 --> 00:33:32,839
Say, "Hey, there's this guy,
he's doing this,
735
00:33:32,923 --> 00:33:35,631
and let's see if we can
expand the, uh, horizon."
736
00:33:35,714 --> 00:33:37,047
♪ ♪
737
00:33:37,130 --> 00:33:39,339
- But then Jerry--
my Jerry--
738
00:33:39,422 --> 00:33:43,214
received a phone call
that Uncle Dominic died.
739
00:33:45,339 --> 00:33:49,214
- I--you know, you don't
really talk about that.
740
00:33:49,297 --> 00:33:54,172
So anyway, my Jerry
and Jerry Jacobson
741
00:33:54,255 --> 00:33:57,798
became partners on
the Monopoly thing.
742
00:34:00,255 --> 00:34:07,297
♪ ♪
743
00:34:08,839 --> 00:34:11,506
- Working any case
is like big puzzle.
744
00:34:11,589 --> 00:34:13,464
You--you start with
a little piece,
745
00:34:13,547 --> 00:34:18,255
and you've gotta try to vet
whether that is legitimate,
746
00:34:18,339 --> 00:34:20,381
whether it has any merit to it.
747
00:34:20,464 --> 00:34:21,422
- Here we go,
here we go.
748
00:34:21,506 --> 00:34:23,089
The undercover portion
749
00:34:23,172 --> 00:34:24,214
with Michael Hoover
750
00:34:24,297 --> 00:34:25,589
went, you know--
751
00:34:25,673 --> 00:34:27,297
went beyond expectations.
752
00:34:27,381 --> 00:34:29,547
We had, you know,
Michael Hoover
753
00:34:29,631 --> 00:34:31,381
calling AJ Glomb.
754
00:34:31,464 --> 00:34:35,005
- We suspected Glomb
was a recruiter,
755
00:34:35,089 --> 00:34:38,798
and he probably didn't
just recruit Hoover.
756
00:34:38,881 --> 00:34:41,798
- Is there a connection
to Uncle Jerry?
757
00:34:41,881 --> 00:34:43,255
- And so we started
looking into him,
758
00:34:43,339 --> 00:34:46,881
and then expanded
into other phone lines
759
00:34:46,964 --> 00:34:49,631
- We had coverage
on many lines,
760
00:34:49,714 --> 00:34:52,506
including Jerry Jacobson,
AJ Glomb,
761
00:34:52,589 --> 00:34:54,798
and a number of the winners.
762
00:34:54,881 --> 00:34:57,255
- The spider web of all, like--
763
00:34:57,339 --> 00:34:59,589
we didn't know
how big this was.
764
00:34:59,673 --> 00:35:01,214
We--we had this Uncle Jer--
it was--
765
00:35:01,297 --> 00:35:04,047
everything was very general,
nebulous.
766
00:35:04,130 --> 00:35:05,923
So inside the--the wire room,
767
00:35:06,005 --> 00:35:09,297
people sitting there,
getting ready to listen,
768
00:35:09,381 --> 00:35:11,172
and nothing happens, right?
769
00:35:11,255 --> 00:35:13,047
You put
all this effort into it,
770
00:35:13,130 --> 00:35:15,339
and nothing happens.
771
00:35:15,422 --> 00:35:17,381
You're spending your weekend
doing that.
772
00:35:17,464 --> 00:35:20,589
- Unfortunately, in these
conversations on the wire,
773
00:35:20,673 --> 00:35:24,089
the winners mostly
had innocuous conversations
774
00:35:24,172 --> 00:35:26,673
that have nothing
to do with the crime,
775
00:35:26,756 --> 00:35:29,172
so we start coming up with,
"All right,
776
00:35:29,255 --> 00:35:34,130
"how do we get past winners
to recount how they
777
00:35:34,214 --> 00:35:36,089
allegedly won these pieces?"
778
00:35:36,172 --> 00:35:38,255
- I said, "Look,
we can do this.
779
00:35:38,339 --> 00:35:41,464
"Why don't we bring
all these past winners
780
00:35:41,547 --> 00:35:43,464
to Vegas?"
I just said Vegas.
781
00:35:43,547 --> 00:35:44,464
It's all I said.
782
00:35:44,547 --> 00:35:47,422
[upbeat music]
783
00:35:47,506 --> 00:35:48,547
♪ ♪
784
00:35:48,631 --> 00:35:49,964
I don't know
why I picked Vegas.
785
00:35:50,047 --> 00:35:51,339
Probably 'cause
of the fun mere thing,
786
00:35:51,422 --> 00:35:53,631
which is the immediate, "No!"
You know?
787
00:35:53,714 --> 00:35:56,631
But I said,
"Hey, just hear me out.
788
00:35:56,714 --> 00:36:01,464
"Let's do a reunion
of all these past winners.
789
00:36:01,547 --> 00:36:03,589
Let's bring all these people
together to tell us,"
790
00:36:03,673 --> 00:36:05,047
'cause we didn't know
their stories.
791
00:36:05,130 --> 00:36:06,798
Tell us how they won these,
792
00:36:06,881 --> 00:36:08,881
and what they did with it,
that kind of thing,
793
00:36:08,964 --> 00:36:11,047
'cause, you know,
McDonald's has big pockets.
794
00:36:11,130 --> 00:36:13,881
They get some all-expenses
paid trip to Vegas,
795
00:36:13,964 --> 00:36:15,589
balloons falling
and the confetti,
796
00:36:15,673 --> 00:36:16,798
and they love that shit.
797
00:36:16,881 --> 00:36:18,381
You know, the questions were,
798
00:36:18,464 --> 00:36:20,297
"Mathews,
where are you gonna do this?"
799
00:36:20,381 --> 00:36:21,589
Embassy Suites.
800
00:36:21,673 --> 00:36:22,756
Take the whole floor,
801
00:36:22,839 --> 00:36:24,506
rope everything off, right?
802
00:36:24,589 --> 00:36:27,756
Just in case stupid shows up
and you have them all line up
803
00:36:27,839 --> 00:36:28,714
in these rooms
804
00:36:28,798 --> 00:36:29,714
and just arrest them all
805
00:36:29,798 --> 00:36:31,005
at the same time, right?
806
00:36:31,089 --> 00:36:32,339
Great thing.
807
00:36:32,422 --> 00:36:34,339
[mimics buzzer sound]
No.
808
00:36:34,422 --> 00:36:35,464
No way in hell.
809
00:36:35,547 --> 00:36:36,673
- [laughs]
810
00:36:36,756 --> 00:36:38,798
No, Doug.
Not gonna do that.
811
00:36:38,881 --> 00:36:40,047
[laughs]
812
00:36:40,130 --> 00:36:41,923
How much is that gonna cost us?
[laughs]
813
00:36:42,005 --> 00:36:43,714
We--you know, we did have some
budgets to deal with, you know?
814
00:36:43,798 --> 00:36:44,798
So--
815
00:36:44,881 --> 00:36:46,130
- I can't remember what it was.
816
00:36:46,214 --> 00:36:47,881
It was like,
"Get him out of here."
817
00:36:47,964 --> 00:36:49,339
You know,
whatever it was.
818
00:36:49,422 --> 00:36:51,172
"I can't believe
you said that."
819
00:36:51,255 --> 00:36:53,881
- Doug is one of the
hardest-working agents
820
00:36:53,964 --> 00:36:55,255
I've ever met in my life.
821
00:36:55,339 --> 00:36:57,923
Very creative, you know?
He'll do anything.
822
00:36:58,005 --> 00:37:01,714
He'll try anything,
and he can talk forever.
823
00:37:01,798 --> 00:37:04,547
He is relentless.
824
00:37:04,631 --> 00:37:06,547
[chuckles]
825
00:37:06,631 --> 00:37:10,756
- This idea of
"hosting" a reunion
826
00:37:10,839 --> 00:37:13,339
of past winners in Las Vegas,
you know,
827
00:37:13,422 --> 00:37:15,005
seemed so outlandish up front,
828
00:37:15,089 --> 00:37:17,964
and then we realized,
"Well, wait a minute.
829
00:37:18,047 --> 00:37:20,047
"If you're not gonna
follow through with it,
830
00:37:20,130 --> 00:37:21,547
you can promise--"
[laughs]
831
00:37:21,631 --> 00:37:23,673
"You can promise some
pretty elaborate things."
832
00:37:23,756 --> 00:37:25,172
Everybody likes to go to Vegas,
833
00:37:25,255 --> 00:37:28,589
so in preparation
for that wonderful conference
834
00:37:28,673 --> 00:37:30,464
that we were gonna have
all expense paid,
835
00:37:30,547 --> 00:37:32,339
we could contact
these winners,
836
00:37:32,422 --> 00:37:35,881
go out and film them to
capture their so-called story,
837
00:37:35,964 --> 00:37:40,756
and then the carrot was you
get this trip to--to Vegas.
838
00:37:40,839 --> 00:37:42,506
- Rick was freaked out
about it,
839
00:37:42,589 --> 00:37:43,964
but I wasn't.
840
00:37:44,047 --> 00:37:45,422
Remember, I'm the guy
that's just, you know,
841
00:37:45,506 --> 00:37:46,547
"You know this is gonna work,"
842
00:37:46,631 --> 00:37:47,839
'cause I know it is, right?
843
00:37:47,923 --> 00:37:50,089
It's all a shamrock, baby.
Shamrock.
844
00:37:50,172 --> 00:37:53,923
[dramatic music]
845
00:37:54,005 --> 00:37:56,923
- I was the direct contact
with the winners,
846
00:37:57,005 --> 00:38:00,381
so I could legitimize
all of the information.
847
00:38:00,464 --> 00:38:02,547
It was all recorded and,
you know,
848
00:38:02,631 --> 00:38:04,005
it was 17 years ago,
849
00:38:04,089 --> 00:38:07,381
so it was a big tape recorder
that I carried around
850
00:38:07,464 --> 00:38:09,339
in a black McDonald's
briefcase.
851
00:38:09,422 --> 00:38:11,089
I even carried it
to my friend's wedding
852
00:38:11,172 --> 00:38:12,881
in Jackson Hole because,
you know,
853
00:38:12,964 --> 00:38:15,923
I had to be able to tape
the calls whenever they came.
854
00:38:16,005 --> 00:38:18,005
It's like
I had to flip the tapes
855
00:38:18,089 --> 00:38:19,172
I'd be like,
856
00:38:19,255 --> 00:38:20,506
"Can I put you on hold
for a second?"
857
00:38:20,589 --> 00:38:22,214
You know, and then
I'd flip the tapes
858
00:38:22,297 --> 00:38:24,547
and then put them back on.
859
00:38:24,631 --> 00:38:26,464
[tense music]
860
00:38:26,547 --> 00:38:29,089
- Amy would call them up
and say, "Hey, look,
861
00:38:29,172 --> 00:38:32,631
"we're putting together
this media release
862
00:38:32,714 --> 00:38:35,798
"of previous winners,
how they won it,
863
00:38:35,881 --> 00:38:36,839
"what they did with it,
864
00:38:36,923 --> 00:38:38,172
"some of their story that
865
00:38:38,255 --> 00:38:40,130
"it hasn't been really told.
866
00:38:40,214 --> 00:38:43,673
You know, we'll come to you
or you can come to us."
867
00:38:43,756 --> 00:38:45,297
Wherever we were gonna do it,
868
00:38:45,381 --> 00:38:47,005
whatever hotel that you want.
869
00:38:47,089 --> 00:38:49,464
Nobody said no to that.
870
00:38:49,547 --> 00:38:50,714
Most everybody was like,
871
00:38:50,798 --> 00:38:52,631
"Tell me when we're going
to Vegas."
872
00:38:52,714 --> 00:38:54,673
- Obviously we were not
gonna do a reunion,
873
00:38:54,756 --> 00:38:56,547
um, but to the winners,
874
00:38:56,631 --> 00:38:58,047
we told them, uh,
875
00:38:58,130 --> 00:38:59,839
"We're planning this
big reunion,"
876
00:38:59,923 --> 00:39:02,089
and we started
to get them actually
877
00:39:02,172 --> 00:39:04,589
excited to be
going to Las Vegas.
878
00:39:04,673 --> 00:39:07,673
- That was kind of fundamental
that was a bit of a ruse.
879
00:39:07,756 --> 00:39:10,756
We, you know--we didn't make
reservations in Las Vegas.
880
00:39:10,839 --> 00:39:12,214
I think the pitch was,
you know,
881
00:39:12,297 --> 00:39:14,464
"We're gonna put your story
up on the big screen
882
00:39:14,547 --> 00:39:15,756
"and, you know,
over a dinner,
883
00:39:15,839 --> 00:39:16,964
"and everybody's gonna clap.
884
00:39:17,047 --> 00:39:18,089
Are you interested
885
00:39:18,172 --> 00:39:19,381
in the reunion of winners?"
886
00:39:19,464 --> 00:39:20,506
And of course they are.
887
00:39:20,589 --> 00:39:22,339
Well, locking them into
888
00:39:22,422 --> 00:39:24,214
a story on camera
889
00:39:24,297 --> 00:39:26,881
takes a B minus case
and makes it, you know,
890
00:39:26,964 --> 00:39:29,839
an A, A plus case.
891
00:39:29,923 --> 00:39:33,047
[distant cars passing]
892
00:39:39,798 --> 00:39:42,756
[upbeat music]
893
00:39:42,839 --> 00:39:49,381
♪ ♪
894
00:39:49,464 --> 00:39:50,714
- My name is Doug Astralaga,
895
00:39:50,798 --> 00:39:52,047
I'm an FBI agent,
896
00:39:52,130 --> 00:39:53,297
and I was the lighting guy
897
00:39:53,381 --> 00:39:55,047
for the Shamrock production
898
00:39:55,130 --> 00:39:57,047
in the McDonald's case.
899
00:39:57,130 --> 00:39:58,631
Oh, so this is the little--
900
00:39:58,714 --> 00:40:00,172
yeah, I remember this.
901
00:40:00,255 --> 00:40:02,547
[laughs]
902
00:40:02,631 --> 00:40:06,964
♪ ♪
903
00:40:07,047 --> 00:40:10,214
- Doug Astralaga was
a relatively young agent.
904
00:40:10,297 --> 00:40:13,673
Uh, you know,
real--real enthusiastic,
905
00:40:13,756 --> 00:40:15,047
uh, charismatic guy.
906
00:40:15,130 --> 00:40:16,589
- When I came out of Quantico,
907
00:40:16,673 --> 00:40:18,756
I wanted to do
something exciting.
908
00:40:18,839 --> 00:40:21,839
- Originally I had stuck him
with the admin agent
909
00:40:21,923 --> 00:40:22,839
on this title III,
910
00:40:22,923 --> 00:40:25,464
which is, uh,
of all the jobs,
911
00:40:25,547 --> 00:40:27,214
probably the most thankless.
912
00:40:27,297 --> 00:40:29,714
I mean, it--it really is a--
a brutal job,
913
00:40:29,798 --> 00:40:32,798
but there's a reward process
that happens,
914
00:40:32,881 --> 00:40:34,506
so in Doug's case,
915
00:40:34,589 --> 00:40:36,589
we let him
work on the undercover
916
00:40:36,673 --> 00:40:38,506
with--with Doug Mathews
as the--
917
00:40:38,589 --> 00:40:40,756
the "lighting guy."
918
00:40:40,839 --> 00:40:42,297
- I had no idea
what I was doing.
919
00:40:42,381 --> 00:40:44,589
I was just using
this light meter
920
00:40:44,673 --> 00:40:46,422
and pressing something
on this going,
921
00:40:46,506 --> 00:40:47,881
"It's great."
922
00:40:47,964 --> 00:40:50,881
This is--I still have no idea
how to use one of these.
923
00:40:50,964 --> 00:40:52,172
[laughs]
924
00:40:52,255 --> 00:40:53,673
Excellent, but I do believe
925
00:40:53,756 --> 00:40:55,214
we need more lighting
over here.
926
00:40:55,297 --> 00:40:57,464
♪ ♪
927
00:40:57,547 --> 00:40:59,381
Really, the point was
to engage them
928
00:40:59,464 --> 00:41:00,589
in conversations.
929
00:41:00,673 --> 00:41:02,756
That had to reconcile with what
930
00:41:02,839 --> 00:41:05,005
they had originally stated
for McDonald's
931
00:41:05,089 --> 00:41:06,130
to win the prize.
932
00:41:06,214 --> 00:41:08,089
- We recorded these
interviews with them
933
00:41:08,172 --> 00:41:12,214
so the FBI could then
match the timeline
934
00:41:12,297 --> 00:41:13,422
match the facts.
935
00:41:13,506 --> 00:41:15,964
What they originally
told McDonald's,
936
00:41:16,047 --> 00:41:17,631
what they're telling us
on camera,
937
00:41:17,714 --> 00:41:21,547
what the FBI
sort of already knew.
938
00:41:21,631 --> 00:41:24,464
- So that once we had
the evidence showing that
939
00:41:24,547 --> 00:41:26,839
you know you didn't
win this legitimately,
940
00:41:26,923 --> 00:41:28,464
you've lied to the FBI,
941
00:41:28,547 --> 00:41:30,381
and here's the evidence
to prove it,
942
00:41:30,464 --> 00:41:33,589
they would be more willing
to cooperate.
943
00:41:35,089 --> 00:41:36,214
- Yes.
944
00:41:38,381 --> 00:41:43,756
- The FBI was merely--when--
when the FBI took a film crew
945
00:41:43,839 --> 00:41:45,381
to a winner,
946
00:41:45,464 --> 00:41:50,381
that winner had already
contacted Simon Marketing,
947
00:41:50,464 --> 00:41:52,506
hence McDonald's,
948
00:41:52,589 --> 00:41:55,047
claiming to have been a winner.
949
00:41:55,130 --> 00:41:58,714
They're already saying,
"I did this,
950
00:41:58,798 --> 00:42:01,381
and this is how I obtained
this game piece."
951
00:42:01,464 --> 00:42:05,172
An individual could never claim
that's entrapment
952
00:42:05,255 --> 00:42:09,673
because they did it before
the law enforcement
953
00:42:09,756 --> 00:42:10,673
was involved.
954
00:42:10,756 --> 00:42:14,255
Entrapment is to have
law enforcement
955
00:42:14,339 --> 00:42:17,381
put the idea into
the person's head
956
00:42:17,464 --> 00:42:19,214
and to get them to do something
957
00:42:19,297 --> 00:42:21,005
they otherwise
wouldn't have done.
958
00:42:21,089 --> 00:42:22,673
We weren't saying,
959
00:42:22,756 --> 00:42:25,172
"Say this, say this,
and say that."
960
00:42:25,255 --> 00:42:27,422
We were saying,
"How?
961
00:42:27,506 --> 00:42:28,714
What?
962
00:42:28,798 --> 00:42:29,798
Where?
963
00:42:29,881 --> 00:42:31,047
Who?"
964
00:42:31,130 --> 00:42:33,214
Those are just opportunities
965
00:42:33,297 --> 00:42:35,214
for him to fill in the blanks
966
00:42:35,297 --> 00:42:37,923
and tell us
what he wants to tell us.
967
00:42:38,005 --> 00:42:39,464
- Remember just keep
looking at me.
968
00:42:39,547 --> 00:42:40,339
- Okay.
969
00:42:40,422 --> 00:42:41,381
- And if you mess up
or you feel like
970
00:42:41,464 --> 00:42:42,464
you wanna say it again,
971
00:42:42,547 --> 00:42:44,172
we can start all over again.
- Okay.
972
00:42:44,255 --> 00:42:46,923
And I'll try to limit
my hand gestures.
973
00:42:47,005 --> 00:42:49,673
Sometimes it gets in there so
I'll make sure I don't do that.
974
00:42:49,756 --> 00:42:54,631
Um, okay, why don't we go back
to that day that you won
975
00:42:54,714 --> 00:42:57,005
in New Hampshire
and can you just sort of
976
00:42:57,089 --> 00:42:58,339
describe the day for us?
977
00:42:58,422 --> 00:43:00,881
What you were doing in the
morning and at work and then--
978
00:43:00,964 --> 00:43:04,631
- It was a, uh--a summer day.
979
00:43:04,714 --> 00:43:07,631
Uh, no, wait, uh,
I wasn't working.
980
00:43:07,714 --> 00:43:10,005
It was Sunday,
as a matter of fact.
981
00:43:10,089 --> 00:43:11,339
Uh...
982
00:43:12,589 --> 00:43:16,422
And there wasn't a whole lot
of work to do,
983
00:43:16,506 --> 00:43:18,422
so, uh, you know,
984
00:43:18,506 --> 00:43:20,547
just browsing through
the Sunday paper
985
00:43:20,631 --> 00:43:22,339
as I am want to do.
986
00:43:22,422 --> 00:43:24,506
- He was fumbling through it
trying to figure out
987
00:43:24,589 --> 00:43:27,589
how he won that
particular piece.
988
00:43:27,673 --> 00:43:29,798
In reality,
989
00:43:29,881 --> 00:43:31,673
a life experience like that
990
00:43:31,756 --> 00:43:34,631
is drilled into your
memory forever and ever.
991
00:43:34,714 --> 00:43:37,589
Nobody wins $1 million
on a regular basis.
992
00:43:37,673 --> 00:43:43,756
- Uh, I found the insert
993
00:43:43,839 --> 00:43:47,589
and I found the, uh,
994
00:43:47,673 --> 00:43:50,381
little tear-off tab
995
00:43:50,464 --> 00:43:54,631
and I got cold,
very cold.
996
00:43:54,714 --> 00:43:57,381
- He was sweating so bad.
997
00:43:57,464 --> 00:44:03,464
Like, I know at some point, um,
Amy even said to me,
998
00:44:03,547 --> 00:44:05,255
"Every time you ask him
a question,
999
00:44:05,339 --> 00:44:09,339
it's like I gotta get
the towel to dot his head."
1000
00:44:09,422 --> 00:44:11,839
It was pouring out...
1001
00:44:11,923 --> 00:44:12,923
- Uh--
1002
00:44:13,005 --> 00:44:15,631
- Because he was lying
about everything.
1003
00:44:15,714 --> 00:44:16,756
- Well, suffice it to say,
1004
00:44:16,839 --> 00:44:18,881
I just--I just got cold
all over.
1005
00:44:22,381 --> 00:44:26,881
- No, I, uh, first I wasn't--
I wasn't so sure about it.
1006
00:44:26,964 --> 00:44:28,714
I went to a lawyer.
1007
00:44:28,798 --> 00:44:29,839
- [laughs]
- I did.
1008
00:44:29,923 --> 00:44:32,005
I want--you know,
you need to protect yourself
1009
00:44:32,089 --> 00:44:33,172
and, uh--
1010
00:44:34,673 --> 00:44:35,881
- No, I don't.
Uh--
1011
00:44:37,964 --> 00:44:40,923
- No, it was, um--
oh...
1012
00:44:41,923 --> 00:44:45,047
Over in, uh--
oh...
1013
00:44:45,130 --> 00:44:46,673
- You could zoom in,
'cause we did,
1014
00:44:46,756 --> 00:44:48,422
zoom in on his forehead
1015
00:44:48,506 --> 00:44:51,714
and you could just see
the sweat.
1016
00:44:51,798 --> 00:44:53,756
[tense music]
1017
00:44:55,297 --> 00:44:56,422
- Yes.
- Okay.
1018
00:44:58,422 --> 00:45:00,130
- Yeah, um--
1019
00:45:02,673 --> 00:45:04,422
- I'm leaky.
- [giggles]
1020
00:45:04,923 --> 00:45:06,339
- You know,
and I'd say stuff like,
1021
00:45:06,422 --> 00:45:10,172
"Hey, so nobody, like,
called you up and said,
1022
00:45:10,255 --> 00:45:12,547
"'Hey, we need you to be
a winner,' or whatever?"
1023
00:45:12,631 --> 00:45:14,631
And he'd go, "God, no!
I'd never do that!"
1024
00:45:14,714 --> 00:45:18,047
And it just--just pours.
The sweat would pour.
1025
00:45:18,130 --> 00:45:19,506
I went to a lawyer,
1026
00:45:19,589 --> 00:45:22,756
uh, and he advised me to pr--
1027
00:45:22,839 --> 00:45:27,381
at all cost,
protect my identity.
1028
00:45:27,464 --> 00:45:31,005
- It just seemed odd to me that
many of the people I talked to
1029
00:45:31,089 --> 00:45:32,297
did not want to come forward
1030
00:45:32,381 --> 00:45:34,547
and they seemed
to have knowledge
1031
00:45:34,631 --> 00:45:36,506
about what their
legal rights were
1032
00:45:36,589 --> 00:45:39,756
about, uh,
being anonymous or not.
1033
00:45:42,297 --> 00:45:46,381
- Buddy Fisher was the father
of Robin Colombo,
1034
00:45:46,464 --> 00:45:50,464
uh, who was married
to Jerry Colombo.
1035
00:45:50,547 --> 00:45:53,422
[dramatic music]
1036
00:45:53,506 --> 00:45:54,547
- I'll never forget it.
1037
00:45:54,631 --> 00:45:56,881
I was upstairs
in my bedroom,
1038
00:45:56,964 --> 00:45:59,422
and my father called me
1039
00:45:59,506 --> 00:46:02,005
and there wasn't
many words exchanged.
1040
00:46:02,089 --> 00:46:04,422
He just said,
"I want the big one,"
1041
00:46:04,506 --> 00:46:05,714
so I knew what it meant.
1042
00:46:05,798 --> 00:46:08,464
- He did get one
of the $1 million tickets
1043
00:46:08,547 --> 00:46:15,631
and he had never broken a law
in his entire life.
1044
00:46:16,339 --> 00:46:18,923
One stipulation
that my grandfather made,
1045
00:46:19,005 --> 00:46:22,172
um, he says, "Okay, If I--
if I get this ticket,
1046
00:46:22,255 --> 00:46:25,255
I do not--I'm--I'm not doing
a commercial."
1047
00:46:25,339 --> 00:46:26,214
[phone rings]
1048
00:46:26,297 --> 00:46:28,547
But I remember we would be
1049
00:46:28,631 --> 00:46:30,005
getting phone calls,
1050
00:46:30,089 --> 00:46:32,255
and they would talk
to my grandfather
1051
00:46:32,339 --> 00:46:35,673
and say, "Hey, we're trying
to get all of the, um--
1052
00:46:35,756 --> 00:46:38,756
the Monopoly winners together
for some kind of reunion,"
1053
00:46:38,839 --> 00:46:39,798
or something like that.
1054
00:46:39,881 --> 00:46:41,589
I wanna say it was Vegas,
1055
00:46:41,673 --> 00:46:44,464
so he did make that trip.
1056
00:46:44,547 --> 00:46:46,798
- Now, had your wife or anyone
in your whole family
1057
00:46:46,881 --> 00:46:48,172
ever won anything
like that before?
1058
00:46:48,255 --> 00:46:49,673
- No, no.
- Never?
1059
00:46:49,756 --> 00:46:51,631
- Nothing.
- So this was big.
1060
00:46:51,714 --> 00:46:53,839
- It--huge.
1061
00:46:53,923 --> 00:46:55,964
- So you're the luckiest one
in your family, huh?
1062
00:46:56,047 --> 00:46:57,714
- Yes, yes.
- [laughs]
1063
00:46:57,798 --> 00:47:00,172
- So has any of your kids
or grandkids played Monopoly
1064
00:47:00,255 --> 00:47:01,297
or tried to win
or anything like that?
1065
00:47:01,381 --> 00:47:03,089
- Yes, yes,
and we still do.
1066
00:47:03,172 --> 00:47:04,714
- Oh, good.
- And we still do, yes.
1067
00:47:04,798 --> 00:47:06,673
- Have any of them won
any cars or--
1068
00:47:06,756 --> 00:47:08,255
- No.
- [chuckles]
1069
00:47:08,339 --> 00:47:09,798
- I think I won a cheeseburger.
1070
00:47:09,881 --> 00:47:11,923
- [laughs]
1071
00:47:20,547 --> 00:47:22,506
- You s--he did do one?
1072
00:47:22,589 --> 00:47:23,798
I did not know that.
1073
00:47:25,089 --> 00:47:26,756
Oh.
Okay, yeah.
1074
00:47:26,839 --> 00:47:28,255
I di--I did not know that.
1075
00:47:29,673 --> 00:47:31,381
Hmm.
Okay.
1076
00:47:32,005 --> 00:47:33,422
Wow.
[laughs]
1077
00:47:34,547 --> 00:47:36,005
Is that around?
1078
00:47:36,089 --> 00:47:37,422
[laughs]
1079
00:47:37,506 --> 00:47:39,714
[upbeat music]
1080
00:47:39,798 --> 00:47:41,839
- You know,
the greed was crazy here,
1081
00:47:41,923 --> 00:47:45,255
which is great for us.
[laughs]
1082
00:47:45,339 --> 00:47:48,297
[jazz music]
1083
00:47:48,381 --> 00:47:50,172
♪ ♪
1084
00:47:50,255 --> 00:47:52,923
- One night Jerry and I
1085
00:47:53,005 --> 00:47:54,881
were out with our wives
to dinner
1086
00:47:54,964 --> 00:47:56,881
and we went
to the men's room together.
1087
00:47:56,964 --> 00:48:00,798
That sounds horrible but we
went to the men's room together
1088
00:48:00,881 --> 00:48:04,297
and Jerry gave me
a $1 million ticket.
1089
00:48:04,381 --> 00:48:05,964
- This is for you.
1090
00:48:06,047 --> 00:48:08,297
And I told him,
"I don't wanna be involved.
1091
00:48:08,381 --> 00:48:09,255
I really don't."
1092
00:48:09,339 --> 00:48:11,547
I--I had not cashed in anything
1093
00:48:11,631 --> 00:48:13,547
but a $25,000 ticket.
1094
00:48:13,631 --> 00:48:15,964
I told him I didn't need
the $1 million.
1095
00:48:16,047 --> 00:48:17,714
I told him I was out of it.
1096
00:48:17,798 --> 00:48:19,047
I said, "Jerry, you know what?
1097
00:48:19,130 --> 00:48:20,964
"I don't know what you did
with these guys,
1098
00:48:21,047 --> 00:48:23,339
"how much you made,
or anything else.
1099
00:48:23,422 --> 00:48:25,381
"There's a time
and there's a place.
1100
00:48:25,464 --> 00:48:28,297
Stop," and everything else.
1101
00:48:28,381 --> 00:48:31,047
He said, "Well, just do
something with the ticket."
1102
00:48:31,130 --> 00:48:33,214
[distant classical
music playing]
1103
00:48:33,297 --> 00:48:36,297
So I took the ticket and I
flushed it down the toilet.
1104
00:48:36,381 --> 00:48:38,130
[toilet flushes]
1105
00:48:40,714 --> 00:48:42,673
- Didn't--nothing.
Zero.
1106
00:48:46,964 --> 00:48:48,798
- I didn't, either.
How's that?
1107
00:48:51,923 --> 00:48:53,589
Yeah, how's that?
I didn't either.
1108
00:48:53,673 --> 00:48:54,464
No.
1109
00:48:54,547 --> 00:48:56,172
I knew I was doing
the right thing.
1110
00:48:58,339 --> 00:49:02,589
And Jerry had told me
it was over and that was it.
1111
00:49:02,673 --> 00:49:04,506
[distant classical
music playing]
1112
00:49:04,589 --> 00:49:05,673
I'm telling you,
1113
00:49:05,756 --> 00:49:08,756
the night I flushed that ticket
down the toilet,
1114
00:49:08,839 --> 00:49:10,506
I thought it was over.
1115
00:49:11,464 --> 00:49:13,673
I thought it was over.
1116
00:49:13,756 --> 00:49:16,089
I swear to you
on everything holy,
1117
00:49:16,172 --> 00:49:18,005
I thought it was over.
1118
00:49:20,089 --> 00:49:22,881
[dramatic music]
1119
00:49:22,964 --> 00:49:27,964
- If I even suspected
he was taking tickets,
1120
00:49:28,047 --> 00:49:30,881
I would have told on him
in a heartbeat,
1121
00:49:30,964 --> 00:49:31,923
and he knew it.
1122
00:49:32,005 --> 00:49:33,339
And I think that's why
I didn't know it.
1123
00:49:33,422 --> 00:49:35,798
I--I bet that's why
I didn't get a ticket.
1124
00:49:35,881 --> 00:49:39,130
[laughing]
1125
00:49:39,214 --> 00:49:40,756
♪ ♪
1126
00:49:40,839 --> 00:49:45,172
After Jerry got sick with this
Guillain-Barré syndrome,
1127
00:49:45,255 --> 00:49:47,881
there was something different
in him.
1128
00:49:47,964 --> 00:49:52,005
Even though he was
well on the road to mending,
1129
00:49:52,089 --> 00:49:55,130
he could have repercussions
later on
1130
00:49:55,214 --> 00:49:58,506
being crippled or bedridden
or dead.
1131
00:49:58,589 --> 00:49:59,839
♪ ♪
1132
00:49:59,923 --> 00:50:02,422
So he had nothing to lose
at that point.
1133
00:50:02,506 --> 00:50:05,130
♪ ♪
1134
00:50:05,214 --> 00:50:07,130
- My husband, Jerry,
1135
00:50:07,214 --> 00:50:09,881
we got a lot of
my family members involved,
1136
00:50:09,964 --> 00:50:11,589
and that isn't all.
1137
00:50:11,673 --> 00:50:13,297
My family members that won,
1138
00:50:13,381 --> 00:50:15,589
that was just a little piece
of the pie.
1139
00:50:15,673 --> 00:50:17,339
[door creaking]
1140
00:50:17,422 --> 00:50:19,547
[crickets chirping]
1141
00:50:19,631 --> 00:50:23,214
You had Al Capone
with the prohibition.
1142
00:50:23,297 --> 00:50:26,172
♪ ♪
1143
00:50:26,255 --> 00:50:29,839
You had Mike Franzese
with the gas,
1144
00:50:29,923 --> 00:50:35,214
and then now you have this--
the Monopoly.
1145
00:50:35,297 --> 00:50:40,130
That's really the highest
three moneymakers
1146
00:50:40,214 --> 00:50:41,839
of the mob so far.
1147
00:50:41,923 --> 00:50:45,255
♪ ♪
1148
00:50:48,381 --> 00:50:49,673
My husband picked the winners.
1149
00:50:49,756 --> 00:50:53,381
He had tickets.
He flew everywhere.
1150
00:50:53,464 --> 00:50:56,964
I think Uncle Jerry may have
even got a little jealous.
1151
00:51:00,297 --> 00:51:02,964
- "Uncle Jerry"
is Jerome Jacobson.
1152
00:51:04,047 --> 00:51:08,547
And Jerry is my husband,
Jerry Colombo.
1153
00:51:08,631 --> 00:51:11,547
Jacobson became Uncle Jerry
1154
00:51:11,631 --> 00:51:13,422
because that's
an Italian thing.
1155
00:51:13,506 --> 00:51:17,214
My husband gave him that
out of respect.
1156
00:51:17,297 --> 00:51:20,255
[tense music]
1157
00:51:20,339 --> 00:51:27,422
♪ ♪
1158
00:51:28,631 --> 00:51:30,339
- If your general opinion
of mankind
1159
00:51:30,422 --> 00:51:32,589
is running kind of low
this holiday season,
1160
00:51:32,673 --> 00:51:34,839
here's a story that might
make you feel much,
1161
00:51:34,923 --> 00:51:36,631
much better about
the human race.
1162
00:51:36,714 --> 00:51:42,297
♪ ♪
1163
00:51:42,381 --> 00:51:44,506
- St. Jude Children's
Research Hospital
1164
00:51:44,589 --> 00:51:47,422
in Memphis has received
a very unusual gift.
1165
00:51:47,506 --> 00:51:50,506
[car engine revving]
1166
00:51:50,589 --> 00:51:52,673
♪ ♪
1167
00:51:56,923 --> 00:51:58,964
- Yeah, that's--that's
Uncle Jerry.
1168
00:51:59,047 --> 00:52:02,297
♪ ♪
1169
00:52:02,381 --> 00:52:04,422
- Hospital officials
are calling this
1170
00:52:04,506 --> 00:52:05,923
a gift from an angel
1171
00:52:06,005 --> 00:52:08,714
in the true spirit
of the season.
1172
00:52:08,798 --> 00:52:14,172
♪ ♪
1173
00:52:14,255 --> 00:52:16,381
- This is a happy day.
Whoo-hoo!
1174
00:52:16,464 --> 00:52:21,631
♪ ♪
1175
00:52:21,714 --> 00:52:24,422
- If you're out there
and you hear me,
1176
00:52:24,506 --> 00:52:26,714
we love you.
1177
00:52:26,798 --> 00:52:29,756
[energetic music]
1178
00:52:29,839 --> 00:52:36,881
♪ ♪
1179
00:53:17,839 --> 00:53:19,923
[bright tone]
1180
00:53:22,464 --> 00:53:25,005
My brother took this little,
small operation
and made it huge.
1181
00:53:25,089 --> 00:53:27,089
Literally, it was a monopoly
of scams.
1182
00:53:27,422 --> 00:53:28,464
(CASH REGISTER DINGS)
1183
00:53:28,547 --> 00:53:31,422
The winners,
they would just lie, lie, lie.
1184
00:53:32,130 --> 00:53:35,297
We can push, and you never know
when you're gonna hit a wall.
1185
00:53:35,381 --> 00:53:37,339
There was things
that nobody knew.
1186
00:53:37,798 --> 00:53:39,631
And I just kept it all
to myself.
1187
00:53:40,297 --> 00:53:42,506
I thought, "I'm never
gonna get out of this."
1188
00:53:42,756 --> 00:53:44,214
I was about to panic.
1189
00:53:44,589 --> 00:53:48,631
I had no other option but to
take this process through.
1190
00:53:49,089 --> 00:53:50,631
The money got too big.
1191
00:53:51,339 --> 00:53:52,964
FRANK COLOMBO:
With that comes a price.
1192
00:53:53,547 --> 00:53:54,798
(GUN CLICKS)
1193
00:53:55,130 --> 00:53:56,130
(CASH REGISTER DINGS)
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